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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight

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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones indeed

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We are Dan. Yes, sir. Dan. Hey, what was the last time you were at a Cubs game last time?

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I was at a Cubs game. I went with the great Bobby Budds. Oh, yeah

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That sounds right in Bobby Budds. Yeah. Yeah, he's taking me to two games. Uh-huh the Cubs the only two games I've gone to

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They've been a delight. We've gotten shit wasted. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely

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Budds is so fucking funny out in like social life. Let's happen like in the real world. Yeah. Yeah, he

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Which is a little bit of a knock

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He's very funny guy on Twitter

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he

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So he had this thing he had this bit that he kept doing where he was he kept accusing the guy who was selling beers

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Of hitting on him

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It was just like that progressively got worse as we got drunker. Yeah, I don't know man. It's a super fun time

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I know I don't care about baseball or the Cubs really at all. I know that's offensive to you. No, it's fine

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I always thought that go Cubs go is the stupidest fucking song in the world

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It's the worst but this game that we went to was the end of the regular season. Uh-huh

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The year the Cubs ended up winning the 2016. Yeah, so there was

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Electricity in the room. Oh, absolutely. It was like they won

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It was an exciting game as like the game is ending

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Everyone in the fucking stadium is singing go Cubs go and I found myself singing along. You can't help it. It was

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Infectious it is insane. Yeah, it really is. It's one of the times the worst song that every is like

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It's it's way worse than that. What's the dumb Boston one that done enough? Yeah

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It's way worse than that one

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It's somehow a lot better than that one too. I like Chelsea dagger as a fight song a little more, but it's still not great

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No, it's terrible

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But it was unlistenable

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It was that really interesting experience that I hadn't really had much of in my life of like really blending into the hole

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Yeah, like I became part of the stadium. You understand sports now. Yeah, I kind of got it

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But yeah, well that is important because we're recording this on Wednesday and last night

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They lost to the Rockies in their teen innings and are eliminated. So sorry about great. Sorry about that

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Two years ago, it's fine

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The only other time I tried to go to a Cubs game was when friends and New York comedians Ryan Beck and Kyle Ayers were both

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In town. Yeah, and we tried to go to a Cubs game. It got rained out

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So I spent like 25 bucks on beers just to have to leave. Yeah. Well now you know what it's like to be a Cubs fan

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Yeah, it was that was a bummer

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That was that's more like the experience that Cubs fans all love and share that is a bummer

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But what's not a bummer Jordan? What a couple of new donors

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I got a shout out to also this is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex James

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I only know what you tell me about there we go

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So I'd like to say first of all, thank you so much to someone who has just joined up with the team

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We're very excited about this. Thank you so much David. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, David

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Thank you, David. You are a man after God's own heart indeed

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Also, I'd like to say thank you to someone else who's just joined up. We very much appreciate it

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Thank you so much Amy. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you Amy. Thanks, Amy man

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I don't think it's a me man. Are you sure it's not a me man if it is a me man

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I think she could have bumped it up a little hit your boy up

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Um, so we appreciate everybody

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Oh so very much and if you'd like to support the show and what we do you can do so by going to knowledge fight

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calm clicking that button that says support the show and

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Helping us out and look I made this sales pitch a couple episodes back and then I cut it out of the episode because I felt

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Fucking really gross about it. Oh, that's right. You did cut it out

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But if you want to support the show

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We would really appreciate it if you donate two bucks a month based on the number of episodes we put out

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That's like six cents an episode. I don't know what that means. I don't know if that's compelling but here's the deal

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More people supporting the show makes things much easier

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Not only just logistically and life wise but there's certain freedoms that I don't experience in my life

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Let's say because I like having all of your blood at all time, right? That's one of the things

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A lot of people enjoy all of their blood all the time

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You do not sir

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Another thing too is that like I've been sick and I can't go sell my blood because I'm sick

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I risk getting tons of people sick who are also in the the plasma center if I

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Irresponsibly go in there. So that's a real that's a freedom of my life

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That's taken away. And then the other one is I want to get more tattoos and I can't do that

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Yeah, no, I respect that. I'm uh, I'm on my like it's been almost a year and a half should get tattoos

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Mm-hmm. I don't know if we can do that. Let's get Alex Jones tattoos. No, we cannot let's get Roger Stone's ass with

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Nixon's tattoo on a new new

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But

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I don't know. I'm not here to I'm not gonna stop doing the show at any point just because I can't get tattoos

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All right, but there's things that I'd like to do and if you get is support the show and you like what we do

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Little bit any little bit helps and thank you to everybody who does support the show

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If you don't want to support the show financially and you just like listening to it fucking awesome. Yeah doing that. We appreciate that enough

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Yeah, once again, we all listen everything with all of our her in treaties to help us out at the end of the day

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it's like

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But if you don't it's fine worry, we're ashamed of needing and honestly there are better places to send money if you want to

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That's better. That's better. I Dan how dare you literacy campaigns what they can hear our show

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They don't need to learn how to read. That's exactly right

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100% I agree with that

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So Jordan today we are in a situation

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Yeah after as is always the case whenever we have a really fun episode like we did on Wednesday

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We now have to have a bit of a bummer. Yeah. Yeah, of course today after our last episode you and I sat around

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We had a little bit of chat afterwards about the idea of like are we just abandoning the present in Alex Jones?

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And we both realize that that's not hard. It's outside of our job to do that

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Yeah, we have to talk about the present even if he's stupid and a MLM middle management sales guy

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Now even if he's publicly

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Deconstructing to a gross degree. We kind of still have to talk about the present or else

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We're kind of leaving part of the equation

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Unsolved. Yeah or unanswered and that would be Daryl. We'd be derelict in our duty

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And so today we would just forget what the present is as we constantly live in the past

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Like we would be like like we were in Futurama

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No, no, no can't do it

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You got to engage in the reality of the present which is an unending stream of shit being poured upon all of our faces

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All day every day with no chance of cessation. So today we're going over Tuesday October 2nd

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2018 episode and I know I told you that I didn't want to

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Go to the present for some very legitimate reasons

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I could kind of predict what Alex was gonna be up to I was wrong

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Yeah, that tends to be how this show works. I was so fucking wrong

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We have known and listened to thousands upon thousands of hours of this asshole

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And how is it still wrong? I had I have no idea. No one would have predicted this

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All right. So today we're going to start and here is an out-of-context drop from today's show. I

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Don't claim Jack diddly

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squat I

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Don't know what's going on me neither, man

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Me neither. Me and Alex on the same page. But you always say you know what's going on. I have no idea what's going on. God damn it

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Also, it's really fun because I realized this in that drunken hotel interview where he's like, I don't know who did 9-eleven

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I have no idea. I was in the saudis. I recently watched some clips of him on Rogan's show and he's like

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I know all of who but I know everyone who did it. Yeah, of course. You fucking dick. He's 99% right all the time now admittedly

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He has no idea what's going on. But when he says he knows what's going on. He's 99% right

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He could be 99% right 99% of the time and technically be wrong every single time. It's possible. That is possible

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It's unlikely. Yeah, it's possible. That's what is that the gamblers fallacy. So that would just happen

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Yeah, so Jordan today we're going to start this October 2nd 2018 episode

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This is not going to be super fun. But some of it is going to be fucking hysterical. All right, here we go

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Let's jump in as Alex jumps in at the beginning of the broadcast

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35 days until the most historic election in world history

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I know referendum on nationalism versus globalism human freedom in the Renaissance versus global

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Technocracy and the new dark age, you know, I rarely drop the ball big time. Nope

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But I have really really dropped the ball. I feel like we have 20 different examples of him saying this

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And I began to realize this over the weekend

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So I did a lot of research and by then a lot of other people had done research

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Cool

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And now we have all the documents. We have all the admissions. It's hiding in complete plain view

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What is and I'll talk about how I brought the ball. Tell me what it is and how important this ball dropping is

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We pick it back up right now. You fucking tease

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Because the ball's been fumbled but the other side hasn't got it yet. What ball? It's a big ball

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Got it yet. It's a big ball and I get this information out, but no wonder

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They don't want info wars on any social media are able to share information virally they think

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During this period because they're going to make a bunch of dirty moves the next 35 days. We've already seen it moves

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But the information we're going to cover when we come back is

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is am I so moodly, so stunning, that I just cannot even believe it.

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He can't even, Dan.

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That's great Alex Jones right there.

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He cannot.

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I have dropped the ball so bad.

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And let me tell you how bad I've dropped it, but only by picking it back up and showing

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you how amazing this fucking ball that I dropped is.

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Because the other side hasn't picked it up yet.

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So you have any idea what he's talking about?

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No fucking clue.

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It could be anything.

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It could literally be anything.

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These days, who fucking knows?

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No, I mean your first instinct is to be like, oh he's probably got something on Cavanaugh

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and you're like, well that would be too easy.

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It is Cavanaugh adjacent.

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It's Cavanaugh adjacent.

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It is.

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Alright.

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Alex is on some-

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Hold on.

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He believes Anita Hill.

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No.

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Oh no.

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Because that would be a huge dropping of the ball that he did pick it back, I mean-

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I think the other side's picked that one up by now.

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Well the other side did pick that one up.

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Okay.

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True.

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I mean this is related to Cavanaugh obviously, and Alex is on some crazy bullshit, and he

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has been for a bit.

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His narrative about it has been constantly evolving.

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He posted a story a couple days back about how she has travel pictures and that proves

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she's a liar and shit like that.

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Right, right, right.

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That whole nonsense.

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It's basically everything that she said that anybody is like, well maybe that's, if it's

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not all 100% true then that means that she's 100% lying about everything.

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He's basically gone like and amplified and exaggerated all of the conservative talking

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points about her.

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Yeah.

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That's hard to do.

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It is.

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They are really amping it up themselves.

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And my friend, when we get to what the ball he dropped is-

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Does he deliver?

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Oh man.

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Oh god damn it.

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This is what I'm saying.

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This is what I was talking about at the beginning of the episode.

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I predicted that Alex is going to be running interference for Cavanaugh.

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Yeah.

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And it wasn't going, I'm like, I don't need to go listen to that.

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It's not going to be interesting.

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I was so fucking wrong.

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Okay.

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His angle on this is unbelievable and he begins to get into it here.

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And thank god Michael Savage began to point this out last Friday because I've seen it-

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Yeah, we say that all the time.

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But for some reason I mainly focused on Ford's leftist background, donating 10 times to Hillary,

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60 times to other leftists, how her story didn't add up, how there's new process, how

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your innocence will prove him guilty, you know, stuff that goes back to the Magna Carta.

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Right.

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For criminal trials.

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You know, for criminal trials, not for a job interview.

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I began to look at her CIA connections and it's not connections.

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It's like saying a cow out in the field has connections to cows.

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Or Hitler had connections to the Nazis or Apple's logo looks like an apple.

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So she's in the CIA.

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Well, if-

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No, no, no.

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Not that.

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She is the CIA.

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She's the head.

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She's the chancellor of the CIA.

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Or she is just the embodiment of the CIA.

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She's bad at metaphors.

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She's not good at metaphors.

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So that's the first part of it, but this is not at all where it ends.

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It's unbelievable.

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And it's not just CIA.

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I bet it's unbelievable.

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She co-authors top studies and is one of the head engineers in a giant mind control program

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that they admit is mind control.

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Okay.

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At Stanford.

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I'm listening.

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And then her father, grandfather, brother, brother-in-law all work in the same group

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of CIA offices that produced the fake Russiagate dossier.

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What?

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I mean, and then she's got the deep state lawyer of Andy McCabe.

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Wait, she's also Michael Steele?

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This is unbelievable that they would try something like this.

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Whoa.

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This is basically the Rosetta Stone.

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It's all the same team.

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It's the Rosetta Stone of everything.

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So because of her, because she's finally come forward, we now know that she is part of the

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team that set up the Steele dossier.

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She's part of the team that is behind the, I assume the Bay of Pigs.

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She's done it all.

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Well, her brother apparently worked at a law firm that may have represented Fusion GPS

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or been involved with them at some point.

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Oh, okay.

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Well then that's the smoking gun right there.

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That part I'm going to leave alone.

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Smoking gun.

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So as to her family being in the CIA, Which once again, Fusion is of course the

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CIA, right?

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Of course.

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Everybody's the CIA.

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It's definitely not.

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It's not a private enterprise.

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Everybody's the CIA.

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It's not like a firm that specifically does one thing.

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So in terms of her family being CIA, I don't know if that's true.

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I don't think that there's like a database I can just type someone's name into and it

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pops up.

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CIA.

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I don't think it works that way.

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But the only reason I even care about this is like, Alex, you say your dad's a CIA dentist.

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So like, hey, hold on, why are you throwing stones at somebody else for their family being

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in the...

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He's a patriot CIA dentist.

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Fair enough.

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He's not, he's not accusing anybody very credibly of assaulting them.

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And then...

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Because if he did, then it would obviously be true because his dad has totally assaulted

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somebody.

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He's a good version of the CIA dentists.

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So the other thing is like her lawyer is involved with McCabe.

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I also don't know if that's true.

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I don't care.

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Alex...

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Like banging?

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Alex, your lawyer represents the daily stormer.

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Like I don't think it's a problem that they do.

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I really don't.

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If it's free speech issues and they take on clients who are like disgusting to most people,

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they still deserve to have a lawyer and have like a day in court.

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Absolutely.

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That's part of the whole, well, let's be honest, that's part of the constitution that Trump

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is trying to get rid of.

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Fair enough.

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I don't think that like, just because you're a lawyer who has represented a Nazi makes

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you a Nazi.

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I don't think that version of association really works.

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Although...

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Yeah, the ACLU would be fucked if that were the case.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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I think there are probably lawyers who are Nazis who represent Nazis.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Absolutely.

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It's not an equivalence.

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So I don't judge Alex for having a lawyer who also represents Nazis.

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I don't think that that...

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Frankly, I judge the Nazis for having a lawyer that also represents Alex.

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Let's face it.

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It kind of means that...

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He's a lawyer, man.

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It kind of means that lawyer is a little opportunistic.

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Have you seen the way he's represented Alex, guys, Nazis?

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You can do better.

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Right.

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So all of this is kind of thin, but she's involved in mind control experiments.

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Yes.

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That sounds right.

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She does have a PhD in psychology.

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We're going to leave that alone for now, but I promise we'll get back to it.

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Okay.

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I'm going to let Alex play himself out a little bit before we talk about the reality behind

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this.

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I'm not even going to try and pretend that he's right like I did on that video.

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Yeah, no.

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You made a valiant effort, but today's not the day.

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Oh man.

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Also, I regret that I didn't know this before we recorded that episode about Sophia Stewart,

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the lady who claimed to have written The Matrix and Terminator.

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I did some research into Red Ice Radio, this legitimate white supremacist radio show.

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Yes, legitimate.

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Because I realized...

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Wait.

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Do you mean it's legitimate white supremacist or it's a legitimate radio show?

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It's a legitimately white supremacist radio show.

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Okay.

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I was looking into it because I noticed that there were a number of Alex Jones' guests

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who have also been on there.

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I can't imagine.

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Why?

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A shocking number of them.

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What?

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Come on.

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For some reference, John Rappaport's been on there four times.

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That sounds low.

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Yeah, I know.

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But it's not...

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Or high?

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Why is John Rappaport...

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He's not leaving the house, of course.

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Probably not.

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He's in the attic.

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Okay, good.

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It's not a daily radio show though, so it's not like...

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Who cares?

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All right.

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So it was a...Sophia Stewart was also on there.

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So that's an interesting little wrinkle to her business.

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So now we get back to this.

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You can't get around that voodoo, dad.

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Can't do it.

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So we get back in and so Alex has levied the claim that Dr. Blasey Ford is involved in

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mind control experiments and turns out it's even worse than that.

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By the way, her specialty is implanting false memories.

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That's convenient.

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Oh, you're going to read the study with her name on it.

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God help us.

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You notice everybody accusing Kavanaugh of her psychology professors.

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Are you a Scientologist now?

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What is that?

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You notice all the enemies are psychologists.

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All right.

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Whatever.

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So I promise you we're going to get into exactly why this is all stupid and everything.

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But before we do, Alex, go...

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I think already we can start with her specialty is implanting false memories.

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Her specialty is not false memories.

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It is not anything other than the actual act of implanting false memories into a human

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being.

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Right.

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She's basically the movie Inception.

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Yeah.

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But in a person.

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Gotcha.

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So before we get to any of this, and Alex sort of tries to talk about this news story

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in heavy quotes, news story, he goes down a lot of really dumb roads.

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And this one's my favorite.

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I think you'll actually enjoy this one, too.

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It is Tuesday, the second day of October, two thousand and eighteen.

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I'm your host, Alex Jones.

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We are thirty five days out from the midterms that are obviously much bigger than just the

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midterms.

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I'm going to dive straight into the Brett Kavanaugh fiasco.

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I doubt it.

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And I'm not going to get into the latest Georgetown professors saying.

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That they want to.

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Kill Kavanaugh, attack Kavanaugh as it has and have his testicles cut off.

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Whoa.

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I'm gonna get to that later.

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I'm listening.

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Get to that later.

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I'm listening.

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I thought they would make you perk up.

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Look, I'm not saying I'm for it.

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I'm just saying if somebody were to come out and say that that's what we should do.

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I'm listening.

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There's a Georgetown professor who tweeted some stuff about how, like, you know, all

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of these these white men up here, these privileged white men who are in reinforcing the system

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that allows people to assault women.

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They deserve to be made to feel as uncomfortable as this makes survivors of assault.

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Oh, yeah.

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That was the point that you was making that you made it through flowery language, much

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like you might.

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Yeah, in terms of talking about how I'm liking this person so far, talking about how they

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deserve to have painful death.

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I'm thinking I'm thinking there's a there's an ally at Georgetown.

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She does talk about how they should be castrated.

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I think I got I think I got a friend.

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I think so.

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I think I got a friend.

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It's gonna be tough to reach out because I think she got kicked off Twitter for it.

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Oh, come on.

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Yeah.

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Well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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What a prominent woman getting kicked off Twitter for saying something that is at the

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very least a response to a horrible injustice that is being committed by the people who

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are saying the shit on Twitter to her.

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Mm hmm.

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Odd.

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Weird.

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Odd, Dan.

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It's very weird.

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Justice is perfect.

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So I don't want to talk too much about that story.

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I just think it's really funny, though, his delivery, especially, if they want to cut

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ear balls.

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His balls off.

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I'm fine with that.

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I love it.

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I'm fine with it.

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But even if look, even if he didn't, I'm kind of for that for Supreme Court justices.

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You know what I mean?

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It'd be an interesting thing to do.

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You know, there should be a sacrifice of some sort.

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You want to have impartiality.

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You don't get balls.

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Well, I mean, then you'd have to take out the ovaries of the female Supreme Court justices.

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No hormones whatsoever.

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I want Supreme Box.

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I'm not talking about hormones necessarily, but it would be interesting to put on some

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sort of like you can't have kids if you're on the Supreme Court, because that would bias

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your opinion.

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Oh, absolutely.

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Future stuff.

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Oh, there's if you want.

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I'm not advocating for that, by the way, I'm just talking this through.

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Look, all I'm saying is that the the fantastic thing about what's going on right now is that

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it reveals the Supreme Court to be the sham that it has always been somewhat it is never

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been anything but this.

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And we're all any any pretense that anybody has ever had of like, oh, well, these are

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impartial justices.

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All they need to do is look at this now and be like, oh, no, that's full of shit.

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And it always has been nice.

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You assume that it has, especially like in earlier times.

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Oh, man.

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History.

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It was like what?

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There was like 20 years where the Supreme Court wasn't awful, maybe where the Supreme

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Court wasn't just like, I really I get your argument, but I'm I'm still not convinced

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that black people are people.

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Right, right.

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That was a tough time for that was a tough time, tough time for everybody.

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So here's the deal.

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I'm not telling you the truth about this story yet.

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But part of that is because at this point in the show, we're maybe like 20 minutes into

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Alex's episode, maybe a little bit less than that.

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But Alex realizes on air that he hasn't read the story either.

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Like, he doesn't actually, of course, of course not.

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He doesn't realize he realizes in the middle of talking about stuff that he needs more

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context than the headline.

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And he doesn't have it right.

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He just knows brain control, mind control programs, right.

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She implants memories or whatever.

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He got like the bullet points or whatever, but he can't he can't do it.

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And he realizes this is too important of a story for me.

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I should probably skim this thing.

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So he fakes being too emotional to be on air as he does.

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No shit.

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Very regularly.

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This is pretty funny.

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Oh, and surprise, surprise, long pause, long pause.

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I never learned how to read.

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And you look deeply into it, stretch it, hiding in plain view, in plain view, the most incredible

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information is right there in front of us.

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And the fact that they would try something like this is the most outrageous crap I have

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ever seen, period.

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Outraged.

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Tell us what they've been trying to do.

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In fact, it's so stunning.

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I can't even be on air right now.

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I'm gonna have to go off air.

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Seriously, I'm not doing this for dramatic purposes.

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I'm going to have to compose myself for practical purposes and I will document cam shots when

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I do it.

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So I am going to go off air at this point and I'm going to come back in the next segment

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and I'm going to do my very, very best to be on air.

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Good luck.

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So he goes off air in place.

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How long is he off air for?

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Like 10 minutes or something like that.

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He plays some special reports, goes to commercial and shit, and he comes back and it appears

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that most of what he's prepared is not so much stuff about this story, although he's

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gotten a couple more beats.

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What he's done is he's gone and wrangled articles about the Unabomber, MK Ultra, James Holmes,

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the Aurora shooter, and that's about it.

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So he comes back on air and gives a little lecture about MK Ultra.

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So he quite literally went back into his office, found his cauldron, said double, double toil

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and trouble around it, and then here we are.

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I would say that that's one possibility.

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More likely he just went to his office, found that little wall mount that says in case of

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emergency break glass, took a ball peen hammer and got out the MK Ultra stories and went

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back on air.

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That's my theory.

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But he comes back and now the story is a little bit more robust.

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He can talk about it a little more and he has this basis of the Unabomber and James

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Holmes in order to weave into the idea that she's running a mind control operation.

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I'm going to say this way ahead of time.

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I think Alex could get sued for this.

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I think this is libel.

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That's fast.

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I am not a lawyer.

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I don't know exactly, but if I were Dr. Ford, I would sue the shit out of Alex Jones for

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this.

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He is absolutely lying about her and it is dead to rights libel.

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If the lawyer for the Daily Stormer isn't listening to this.

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Guess what?

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He's on this episode.

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What?

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He shows up later in this episode.

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Of course, of course he does because he heard it in the ether.

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He was just like, oh shit, billable hours are coming.

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I got to be there.

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I got to be there.

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Billable hours, billable hours.

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Like I don't, again, if I were her, I probably wouldn't sue him just because of the difficulty

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and how much of a burdensome process it would be.

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But I think she has grounds to sue and we'll see as this goes along.

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Now get ready for this.

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I knew that Dr. Ford's grandfather, father, brother and brother-in-law all worked high

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level CIA.

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Harrison, Harrison the second, Harrison Jr.

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That's part of the psychology professors.

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Then it came out that she ran recruiting programs at Stanford and one other college.

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She was involved in the recruiting.

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Can't prove that.

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Then it got even worse.

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How did it get worse?

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I saw a media matters article over the weekend attempting to debunk it and it went ahead

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and admitted it all and more and said, and how dare them?

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Yeah, she was in some programs to help people forget memories or have new false memories.

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There were several articles and I went and read the study she wrote and ladies and gentlemen.

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Murder she wrote.

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Turns out she co-authored and headed up major classic MK ultra style mind control programs.

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We're talking erasing memories, implanting false memories, programming people openly

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at Stanford.

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I'm going to get into the actual program, show TV viewers the actual document.

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We've posted it on info wars.com.

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Mike Adams has done an excellent job of naturalnews.com breaking it down, but I read this last night

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when he sent it to me and got physically ill because I already knew all about this.

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I was upset at my stomach.

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Because he already knew all about it.

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Sure.

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Makes him sick.

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Sure.

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But you heard there at the end there, I think one of the very important pieces that just

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might slide under the rug to most people, but it's that Mike Adams, the health ranger

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is the one who wrote this story.

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So Mike Adams over at natural news is Alex's source for all this, which I mean, it's basically

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the equivalent of Paul Joseph Watson having written the article or something like that.

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He may as well be an employee of Alex.

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He's the 9-11 blogger of health.

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Exactly.

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I mean, his site is just a bullshit conspiracy health site.

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It's nonsense.

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Yeah.

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He's apparently super rich and I think a large part of it is...

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God damn it.

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These guys always are.

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But I think one of the things that he does is he makes a lot of websites with like really

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good URLs and good SEO kind of management and then sells advertising on them.

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So I think he has a network.

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This is what I understand.

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I haven't fully looked into it, but from what I understand, he has like tons of URLs that

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are perfectly marketed for specific searches and so he just makes tons of money from the

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ads on those websites, which you can't hate that hustle necessarily.

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That's a good game if you can run it.

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But I dislike it in terms of like one of the main ones being this site that puts out disinformation

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about health stuff all the time.

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It's so frustrating.

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It's so frustrating that we do a show where we study all of these people running great

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scams and we just don't have the lack of moral fiber to do so.

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Yeah, whatever it is.

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God, we know so many great scams, Dan.

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Well, I can look at them.

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It doesn't mean I could pull them off.

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We could probably pull them off.

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Look, if these fucking idiots can pull them off, we could probably pull at least one off.

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It requires a certain set of skills, if you will.

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Oh?

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And I don't have those skills.

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I don't think you do either.

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You can have my daughter.

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I have nothing to do with that.

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I am sorry.

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Good luck.

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So let's let Alex talk some more about this.

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And then I saw this last night.

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I already read some of the studies she'd written, but I found these when Mike Adams sent me

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the article.

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So real quick, I just want to say this.

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I forgot to say before we started this next clip, Alex talked about this Media Matters

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article is trying to rebut things, but accidentally made it clear that she's more guilty than

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he knew.

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I don't care about that.

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I didn't look into the Media Matters article because I'm going based on the primary sources.

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Oh, that's a terrible idea.

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Whatever the actual information is, if it's not in Mike Adams and Alex Jones' reporting,

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then they're not making that claim.

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So whatever Media Matters might be saying, which I'm sure Alex is misrepresenting, I

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don't give a shit about it.

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I care about what Mike Adams, the health ranger, and Alex Jones, the freedom ranger, are bringing

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to the table.

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So that's why I have no response to the Media Matters thing.

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I don't care at all.

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So anyway.

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And I shacked her and read it, and I knew what I was looking at because I'd read the

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declassified stuff in the 70s on MK Ultra, MK Naomi.

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It was all that with her heading it up in Wayne View, the co-author of a mind control

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study to give people false memories or remove memories.

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So he's making this very clear.

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Like what his claim is, is not changing.

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It's very consistent.

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Nope.

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He's saying that she's running these mind control studies.

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It's MK Ultra shit.

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And I think you have to agree with me that this is not at all what you would expect his

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angle to be.

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No.

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This is pretty wild.

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No, I was not going to, I actually kind of appreciate it more.

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Yeah, kind of.

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This is way better than the women are always lying about sexual assault.

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Now here's what's- I'm a bigger fan of women can actually control minds.

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See now that I'm in.

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Now here's what's great about this.

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He was probably saying that women are always lying a week ago.

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Oh, of course.

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So I'm glad we don't have to talk about that.

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Yeah.

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No, this is fantastic.

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But at the same time, I think this is great because it gives us an avenue to discuss Alex

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Jones's crazy bullshit vis-a-vis Kavanaugh and Ford, but at the same time, we don't have

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to dwell too deeply in the very basic stuff that you hope humans just understand.

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Oh yeah, but they don't.

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Very, very first off, he shouldn't be on the Supreme Court no matter what because of his

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views and what he is and his money.

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Even outside of these behaviors.

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Yeah, even outside of this shit, he should not be anywhere near anywhere ever, ever,

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ever.

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Should have let him in a pool supply store.

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The fact that he is being supported and propped up and defended by the people who probably

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did the same shit that he did is awful.

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And the fact that they're attacking a woman who has literally... I don't know if there's

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any way you can come back.

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Her life is never the same from here on out.

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No.

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And the things that Alex is doing on this episode are only making that worse.

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Yeah.

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It's not that she's... I don't want to say like, oh, she's gone and ruined her life,

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but she has done something in one moment that will irrevocably change any aspect of her

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life forever and ever and ever.

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Well, you could say the guy who stood up to a tank in China irrevocably changed his life

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if he had to do that.

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Exactly.

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Like those sorts of things are like-

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Exactly.

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I'm not comparing her necessarily like one to one to that, but there are situations in

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life where you have to stand up no matter what.

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I'm going to be honest, I don't think it's a bad comparison at all.

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And I think that Trump would have been like fucking, look, you can't trust people who

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stand in front of tanks like fucking fuck off.

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I think for most of us there's that sort of mighty, mighty boss tones mentality of like,

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thank God I've never had to knock on wood, but I wonder if I could do it.

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And most people-

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And she's fucking sacked up.

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Yeah.

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Most people don't have to make that decision, and I think that anybody who judges that decision

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without that sort of context or understanding of it is being remarkably disrespectful.

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Not only to her, but just to the idea of people.

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Anyway.

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Yeah.

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Anyways.

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Yeah.

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Many, many other people have done much better analyses of this situation and we agree with

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them.

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But you came to Knowledge Fight to get our analysis and that is fuck that guy.

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And isn't this shit crazy?

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So in this next clip, we get some familiar criticisms of Ford, like the kind of things

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that you would expect to hear Alex say, because a lot of this other stuff, the mind control

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shit and all that, pretty crazy.

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Right, right, right.

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Pretty crazy.

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But now we get back to some sort of like-

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This is just regular old, there's no bottom to how bad conservatives bullshit can be.

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No, because it's still Alex-y, but it's like the Alex you'd expect.

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Oh, okay.

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So we looked into Dr. Ford, the psychologist.

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She loves Reagan.

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He's a Scientologist, man.

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I swear to God.

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I mean, look at how she was a big Hillary supporter and gave 10 donations in the last

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cycle and 60 donations of other Democrats, she's got a lot of money.

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Now she's an executive with the RU 486 abortion pill company worth hundreds of billions of

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dollars, still not on the market.

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So the Hillary Clinton one is, you know, that's basically what you'd expect there 100%.

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Sure, sure.

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It's a good thing.

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Gives money to leftists.

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Anybody who gives money to the left can't be trusted, which is of course why we need

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only people who believe in the right on the Supreme Court.

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That makes perfect sense.

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So then I was confused by this part that he brings up about being an executive for an

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RU 486 company.

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Because I have no idea what that is.

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RU 486 is basically what they term an abortion pill.

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So like there's the morning after pill that isn't an abortive pill, but if you are too

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late for that, you can take RU 486 and it will cause an abortion to happen.

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It's the intermediate period between when it's too late for the morning after pill and

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when it's not late enough for you to have to do the whole shebang where they go in there

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with the stuff and it's a mess.

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It has to do with like disruption of hormones and cortisol that RU 486 does.

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So I was wondering about this because this is also not a criticism that I've heard.

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But it's interesting because this is also based on a piece by Mike Adams that he posted

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in Natural News.

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Great.

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Thanks, Mike.

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So the smoking gun that Mike has dug up is that Dr. Blasey Ford is listed as one of the

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authors on a couple of studies listed as publications put out by a business called Corecept, which

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is a pharmaceutical manufacturer that puts out Mifpristone, which is the name of RU 486.

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Oh, okay.

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So also Alex saying it's not on the market, I have no idea what he means by that.

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How could you have a hundred billion dollar company with nothing on the market?

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I mean, capitalism is crazy, but it's not that crazy.

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I have no idea what he means by that because RU 486 has been around since, I mean, I remember

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Dr. Drew talking about it on Loveline back when I was 12.

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Yeah.

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You know, so it's been 20 years that I've been aware of it.

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Yeah.

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At least since women have been able to vote like 15, 20 years ago, that was about when

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we gave them the right.

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Give or take.

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Yeah.

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So Mike Adams alleges that this Corecept sells RU 486, which is an abortion pill and thus

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Ford must be lying about her accusations about Kavanaugh in order to protect abortion because

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of her financial stake in this business Corecept.

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That tracks perfectly.

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So if you go to Corecept's website and review the studies that have her name attached, you'll

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find that they are Mifpristone treatment in olezapine induced weight gain in healthy men.

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Mifpristone reduces weight gain and improves metabolic abnormalities associated with risperidone

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treatment in normal men, administration of selective glucocorticoid antagonist attenuates

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electroconvulsive shock induced retrograde amnesia, selective glucocorticoid receptor

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type two antagonists prevent weight gain caused by olanzapine in rats.

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Selective glucocorticoid receptor GR antagonist reduces body weight gain in mice.

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Discovery of a novel noose nonsteroidal GR antagonist with in vivo efficacy in the olanzapine

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induced weight gain model in the rat.

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Okay.

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So if I understand that correctly, what she is doing is they've got this product that

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Mifpristone is called an abortion pill, which is one use of it, which is one use of it.

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And she is like, uh, or at least they were like, Hey, uh, what if we could use it for

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other stuff?

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And she was like, yeah, sure.

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Fuck it.

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Let's see if it makes people lose weight or reduces weight gain because of the effect

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that it has that induces abortion has to do with corticoid levels.

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So it's almost like it's not a pill designed for one thing, it's a chemical that can be

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used to do all kinds of things.

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And we just found out it could do one thing.

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Well, I mean, the classic example of this that I remember from when I was younger was

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that a wellbutrin was sold as an antidepressant, but then under another name, it was sold as

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a smoking cessation aid.

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So these sorts of things in the pharmaceutical industry are very common.

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So none of this research has anything to do with abortions.

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It's nonsense.

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So also in 2015, a Palo Alto university document lists Ford as the director of biostatistics

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at Corecept.

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So even allowing that she might have been employed by them three years ago, that doesn't

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prove that she is now, which kind of hurts this motives argument that he's trying to

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put forth, that she's trying to protect this from a financial motive.

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Further, it appears that if anything, Ford was working to study new applications of mipristone

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that aren't as a pill that can induce abortion.

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If anything, this should be seen as proof that she has less of a motive to destroy her

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own life to keep abortion legal, if the argument is that she's financially motivated by the

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interest in the company.

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The article and the basis of this argument would be flimsy as hell on its own, but it's

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made completely unacceptable by Mike Adams' inability to stop himself from also calling

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Ford a whore throughout the article.

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Quote, Christine Basley scrubs her internet history to eliminate evidence of hazy drunken

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sex parties documented in her high school yearbook.

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The high school yearbook of Christine Blasey is full of accounts of wild drunken sex parties

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attended by Blasey and others.

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You know, like most yearbooks.

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He concludes by patting himself on the back for a job well done.

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Quote, now it all becomes clear.

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Christine Blasey clearly fabricated the false allegations against Kavanaugh in order to

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protect her own income and profits from an abortion pill drug company whose future might

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be impacted by Kavanaugh's confirmation on the court.

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So that's what I have to say about this R.U. 486 angle.

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I think it makes no sense.

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And the article that Mike Adams wrote about it is full of shit.

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I mean, based on that, it is not just, it doesn't just remove the motive.

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It actually would suggest a complete 180 degrees motive.

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Whereas I don't think if if abortion were made illegal, her research would be even more

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important to the company because they've got this thing and they've got to find another

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use for it.

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Yeah.

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Somewhat.

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But I'm not I'm not saying that that's it.

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Look, look, this whole thing is bullshit, but I'm just saying that if you're going to

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pull that argument, then it doesn't make any fucking sense on its head.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It is it is only going to reinforce an argument against your own argument.

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I think.

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Yeah.

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I think that's a fair way to put it.

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Yeah.

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It doesn't make an argument in the alternative.

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No, no, no, no.

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But it makes your argument like the actual facts make your argument weak and slightly

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pull things the other direction.

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Exactly.

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So anyway, Alex isn't done, but I needed to get that out during the R.U. four eighty six

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portion.

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Good call.

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And we looked at how she was part of a whole man hating organization and how she supported

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by Soros back group bingo and how testimony kept contradicting itself and how whatever

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happened to innocent until proven guilty and why did they sit on the allegations until

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right before the vote on and on and on instead of looking at what she did at Stanford and

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one other university, even currently what she does.

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And she is in a public.

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Mind control operation.

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That implants false memories and removes memories.

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So again, this is very clear what his assertion is.

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Yes.

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I just want that to be driven home.

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She can.

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Keeps repeating this.

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She can.

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Yeah.

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Implant memories that are not real, but she can also remove memories that are real.

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Dan.

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Well, see, I don't think that's legally actionable if you say that she can do that.

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Right.

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Because that would just be like, well, it's like I'm just calling you a wizard.

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You're going to sue me for that.

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You know, like, I don't know, sort of thing.

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Prove I'm a wizard.

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I think it is legally actionable to claim that she's involved in that sort of study

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for nefarious purposes and shit like that.

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Right.

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I mean, that's a harder that's a harder sue.

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I wouldn't sue.

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I wouldn't either.

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But I think you could.

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So finally, now we get to the point where Alex reads a little bit of Mike's report.

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And now let's see what is actually in there, according to Alex.

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And then I'll tell you on the other side what's in there.

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And then you read the report.

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Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford ran mass hypnotic inductions.

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Did you hear that mass hypnotic inductions putting you into a hypnotic spell?

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For those of you who can't see her words, Dan is raising his eyebrows as part of mind

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control research funded by the foundation linked to computational psycho Maddox.

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Yeah.

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Keeps saying words to Maddox neuro hijacking.

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Keep doing it.

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Neuro hijacking here.

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Nothing going on.

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Stunning bombshell about the hoax accusations against Brett Kavanaugh.

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And you hear her say how she remembered it a few years ago and then told the therapist

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by name.

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But it's not in the notes.

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And then the dog was there at the window and she decided to go public.

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I mean, maybe she's under mind control.

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My God.

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Stunning bombshell about the hoax accusations against Brett Kavanaugh.

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We've now learned and confirmed that Christine Blasey Ford co-authored a science paper that

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involves her carrying out, quote, hypnotic inductions of psychiatric subjects as part

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of mind control program that cites methods to create artificial situations.

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Did you hear that?

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Did you hear that?

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People in the trance is so deep that they are under total mind control and believe whatever

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they're told.

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Sure.

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Internet sleuths are turning up an extraordinary collection of evidence that increasingly points

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to Christine Blasey Ford being involved in mind control programs at Stanford, writes

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Mike Adams, which some claim are run by the CIA.

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It's DARPA funding it.

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That's above the CIA.

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He can't prove that in any way, the CIA or DARPA, both, both of those things are nowhere

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near proven in any of this.

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Also, I don't think that the hierarchy, I don't think that the hierarchy is like a DARPA

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is above the CIA.

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Like I don't know who does believe that.

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I don't think they're related to each other.

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Well, that's actually true.

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Fair enough.

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I apologize that I couldn't stop waggling my eyebrows at you.

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There was a serious waggle.

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They were traveling.

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Whoa, boy.

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Yeah.

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So now.

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Can you just say neuro hijacking the way that he did?

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Neuro.

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I can't.

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I can't.

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Like with my throat in the shape that it's in right now, I can't do it.

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Neuro hijacking.

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One of the...

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God, that's so good.

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That sounds like we're in a cyberpunk future.

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We might as well be in that movie Hackers.

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One of those...

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One of the difficulties...

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The cyberpunk past actually now.

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One of the difficulties of being on the mend from this illness is I don't think I can do

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an Alex impression.

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I think I would fucking destroy my neck.

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Hey, everybody.

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Nope.

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Yeah.

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Nope.

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Nope.

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Don't do it.

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Don't even attempt.

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Now it's time to bear all.

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I enjoyed listening to Alex repeatedly bring up that she's in mind control studies and

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all of this because here's the actual reality.

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Alex Jones claims that he's found and read studies that Dr. Blasey Ford was engaged in

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at Stanford that are clear evidence of mind control, but literally the only study he links

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to in his Info Wars article is to a 2008 study where Dr. Ford was one of 11 researchers cited.

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She wasn't even the lead on it.

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I would guess that Alex was very intentionally not reading out the name of the study because

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even that would make his shit look super weak.

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Here's the name of it.

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It's meditation with yoga, group therapy with hypnosis, and psychoeducation for long-term

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depressed mood, a randomized pilot trial.

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The pilot study that she was a participant in set out to see if there were any differences

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in terms of outcomes for depressed patients treated with psychoeducation, which is really

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just a form of therapy that involves education about mental illnesses, whether it's educating

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the actual patient or generally it'll be their family members and friends to help them be

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a support network for the person.

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That's all psychoeducation is.

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Let's remove any kind of mysticism around this.

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Here, you are a depressed person.

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What we're going to do is we're not going to give you any medication, but we are going

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to talk you through what depression is experiencing and then we're going to talk to your family

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so that they can understand and communicate with you better and that way you don't feel

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the friction that you get whenever you're depressed all the time where you feel like

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you're alone and miserable and nobody else is fucking around you.

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It's been shown to be...

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There's been indications that it's more successful than just individual therapy, but I don't

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know if that's a consensus opinion yet, but it's nothing really strange.

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It sounds bad, psychoeducation or whatever.

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When you're depressed, what your default is, I am being ostracized, so educating the people

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around you gives you a work around for that where you're like, not only am I not actually

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being ostracized, but I know that I'm not being ostracized.

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But the term, all I'm saying is it sounds good and it's not.

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So you've got psychoeducation, that's one group in this tripartite study.

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There's three groups in the study.

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One is just treated as psychoeducation.

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The second is meditation and yoga in addition to psychotherapy and hypnosis, again with

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the addition of psychoeducation.

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This is a pretty standard experiment with a control group and two variables.

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There's nothing nefarious or scary about hypnosis being used in a clinical setting.

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It's a very widely used therapeutic tool and absolutely nothing to do with mind control.

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I've been in therapy that's used hypnosis before and it's been sometimes a very useful

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tool, sometimes incredibly annoying because you'll just be sitting there like, this isn't

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doing anything.

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I'm sitting there like, I am not getting in any kind of comfortable state.

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In fact, this is annoying me.

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So the article on InfoWars is written by the health ranger, Mike Adams, and it's a textbook

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case of cherry picking words in order to warp meaning and it should serve as a perfect demonstration

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of how Mike Adams is a less trustworthy source for medical information than me, a high school

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dropout.

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I was getting a little petty when I wrote this.

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You were getting a little petty.

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I forgot about that.

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You were getting a little petty.

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When I wrote this script out, I...

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That was a little petty.

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Got to call myself out for that.

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All right.

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I like it.

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I like it.

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No, and it's great.

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It's great.

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I do like it.

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This all made me very mad.

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So in the article, Mike says, quote, the full text of the research paper describes methods

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to quote, create artificial situations.

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He then goes on to start a quote from the text with an ellipsis, quote, assist in the

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retrieval of important memories and create artificial situations that would permit the

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client to express ego-dystonic emotions in a safe manner.

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So right there, the create artificial situations is what Alex quoted as being some sort of

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implanting false memories.

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That was the implication that Alex was trying to make.

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So the quote that is there that starts the ellipsis, it sounds kind of bad, create artificial

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situations.

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Like the context of that sounds a little bad, but it also sounds like bad grammar.

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So I went and checked the study to see what he was talking about.

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Well, because the first thing I think of is Indiana Jones would be in artificial situations

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often.

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It's...

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Artifacts.

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It belongs in a museum, man.

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It belongs in a museum.

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As does this rhetoric.

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It's old as shit.

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So it turns out that Mike caught out the beginning of that quote very intentionally, as just

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before where he starts, the study is discussing how hypnosis is a legitimate therapeutic tool.

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And in fact, this quote that he's pulled is not from the discussion of the study at all.

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Instead it's about the historical view of hypnosis.

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Here's the quote in context.

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Quote, hypnosis is a form of highly focused attention with a relative constriction on

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peripheral awareness and has been used successfully as an adjunct to therapy for depression.

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In 1964, Abrams suggested that hypnosis could be used to improve rapport in the therapeutic

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relationship, assist in the retrieval of important memories, and create artificial situations

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that would permit the client to express ego-dystonic emotions in a safe manner.

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Gotcha.

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So you have right there, he's completely taking this out of context to imply that that quote

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is in relation to the actual study that's being done as opposed to it being background

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about the history of the use of hypnosis in therapeutic sessions.

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Like this is incredibly, this is the clunkiest thing I've ever...

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It's not clunky.

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It's intentional.

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But like if this was someone who had good faith and was coming from a place of like,

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I actually believe what I'm putting down on the page, I would say that you're the most

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incompetent reader I've ever seen in my life.

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Right.

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Like if that's what you're pulling from this, you're doing it terribly.

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But of course it's intentional.

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It's kind of, it is kind of an interesting situation though there is that he kind of

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gets us into this place where you ask yourself the question, should we teach people in bad

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faith how to read or should we teach people who act in bad faith how to read or should

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we teach people who act in bad faith how to read better because he is doing both poorly.

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I would argue that he's...

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You know?

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I know.

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I think he's actually reading well because he's cutting out the points that would show

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him to be a liar.

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Right.

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So I think he's actually...

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But maybe he just doesn't even understand those points.

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See, but that's what I'm talking about.

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That would be what I would believe if someone was operating from a good faith position.

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Right.

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If someone doesn't understand and they're just like, ooh, look at this, I'm stupid.

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This is not stupid.

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This is malicious.

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He calls himself the health ranger though.

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This is malicious.

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I mean, we already saw the article that he wrote about the RU 486 stuff.

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Oh yeah, you're right.

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No, no.

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You know what?

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I'm going to go on your team here.

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I think he's a bad guy.

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So I'm guessing that Alex Jones thinks that Mike Adams' use of, selective use of quotations

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and stuff like that involves mass mind control because the study set up had a group that

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was referenced to as receiving hypnosis therapy, but they also received that in a group setting.

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The reasoning of the researchers is that group therapy has been shown to be very effective

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in treating depression as depression often includes, as you clearly already brought up,

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a major element of feeling isolated and like no one understands what you're experiencing.

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So putting people in a situation where they're getting this hypnosis that is just really

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a guided way to focus your attention and to cut off peripheral stimuli.

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Say it's mindfulness or meditation or whatever it is.

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Well, but that's the other group.

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That's the meditation group.

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Right.

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So it's basically two slight forks of the same idea to some extent.

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One is guided hypnotic focus and the other is meditative states you can achieve through

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yoga and meditation.

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So I don't see anything suspicious about the idea of having a group therapy session that

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involves hypnosis to test whether or not that provides a better outcome for treating depressed

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people.

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You wouldn't see anything suspicious there, but that is because she has implanted your

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mind with those memories, Dan.

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So in the end, here's the study's conclusion.

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Quote, the present pilot study examined whether meditation with yoga and psychoeducation or

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group therapy with hypnosis and psychoeducation could affect diagnostic status and or depressive

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symptoms when compared to psychoeducation alone.

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Among a sample of adults suffering from long-term depression, we found promising preliminary

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support for the use of these interventions to improve diagnostic status and ward off

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the development of further major depressive episodes.

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We did not, though, demonstrate statistically significant improvement in overall symptoms

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to report over the course of the study.

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The conclusion of the study is that meditation and yoga appears to be the most effective,

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but that hypnosis appears to be better than just psychotherapy.

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But ultimately, their data doesn't show statistically relevant trends to state that conclusively.

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Thus, it's a little strange that Mike Adams makes this declaration in his article about

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this study.

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Quote, from the published paper co-authored by Christine Blasey Ford, we know she's intimately

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familiar with mass hypnosis, self-hypnosis, and mind alteration processes, all of which

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are being deployed in this staged false flag assault on Brett Kavanaugh.

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Through carefully crafted leaks, cover-ups, and media narratives, almost half of the nation

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has already been mass hypnotized into believing that an innocent man is a deranged serial

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rapist.

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Such is the power of CIA mind control deployed on a nationwide scale.

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So you see the argument that's developed through this.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Because she is involved with a mass mind control study, that's what she's doing to the world.

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You know, that's a really fascinating thing because-

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She's a supervillain in this case.

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Yeah, exactly!

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Exactly!

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To see the-

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This is comic book shit!

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To see the level by which they judge science is so fascinating to me, where they're like,

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eh, come on, there's no way that anybody could know anything about the climate.

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I mean, obviously, yes, if they're doing a study, they can control minds.

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Like even if the study's results, even if the study's results are like, well, we did

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a lot of stuff and, you know, statistically it was maybe better, it was kind of insignificant,

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we would need to do more research.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That's essentially what she came up with.

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And what they're coming up with is, they did a study, that means they can control minds.

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Now, of course, science can't do any of this other shit, but it can control fucking minds.

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But that's what's so interesting because Alex and Mike Adams' relationship with science,

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at least in this instance, the way you're describing, which I think is pretty accurate-

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Which is that it's a super-powered magic machine!

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Well, no, but it's the same thing with the globalists.

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Like they have to always, like for every sort of nebulous force that they're up against,

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they have to be omnipotent and also completely fucking stupid.

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Yeah, exactly!

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That's the only way that they can characterize their enemies because that's the only space

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in which the con really works.

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Right.

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It can be overpowered to a crazy extent, but then when it's convenient, you can't tell

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anything about the climate from research and shit like that.

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Yeah!

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I mean, you brought up Scientology, but it is when they reveal the limits of their imagination

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that you're like, well, this is fucking stupid, is when, look, hey, there are these infinite

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beings who can travel through space and time and all this stuff.

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They did fly B-25 bombers though.

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Like what the fuck are you doing?

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Right.

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What are you talking about?

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Your imagination is shit.

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Quit!

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Well, I mean, it's even kind of like where I, the way that I jokingly made the line with

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Sophia Stewart, like you can't even imagine a way for your liens to be prosecuted without

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you paying for them.

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Yeah, exactly!

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Exactly!

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Fucking figure it out.

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Right.

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Do a second draft on your bullshit.

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That's why they're where they are though.

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Second drafts are not their...

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That's why L. Rob Hubbard is where he was.

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Yeah, that's a good point.

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First draft is best draft.

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First draft?

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Get it out the door.

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Get it out the door.

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So, um, this stuff isn't done yet, uh, unfortunately, but this is the main study.

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God, now I'm going to go back and listen to the dead author's pod.

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Should.

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So fucking good.

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So good.

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Andy Daley.

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Andy Daley is so good as L. Ron.

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And on the pilot podcast project.

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Oh, absolutely.

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Yeah.

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A lot of L. Ron Hubbard fun.

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Anyway, so, um, this bullshit unfortunately isn't done.

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That's the main study that all of this idea of mind control traces back to.

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But Mike Adams' article is actually about a whole lot more and Alex in this next clip

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starts to touch on that.

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Um, and it's so whack.

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The mental insight foundation also funded a study on inner space, seption and neuroimaging

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to control the mind through biological intervention.

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That means drugs, chemicals, radio waves, you name it.

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And then guess what's right here.

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Boom.

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Crazy and crazier and crazier projections of inner voices through sub audible frequencies

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to plant voices and even emotional moods in the minds of targeted subjects.

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Gee, wonder who wants that.

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So that is from a study that Alex is again taking out of context, but, um, the stuff

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about, uh, the, uh, the implanting voices and stuff like that, um, that's all from Mike

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Adams' article where he's talking about what the globalists have, the idea that globalists

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have that weapon, um, and shit like that.

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So that's not even like that's, that's whack as hell.

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It's it's, you shouldn't, you shouldn't, it's such a, how, how is it that we live in such

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a tiered world of like, Alex doesn't even understand the words that he's saying.

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Like he doesn't understand the words that he's saying.

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And yet like you shouldn't even, he shouldn't even be allowed to read articles about science

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without taking a fucking bachelor's course in that science because he just doesn't understand

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it.

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Like in this situation, obviously he's using them in bad faith, but he also has no idea

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what they're fucking talking about.

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No, no clue.

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And he didn't read the source stuff about it at all.

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He's literally only operating off Mike Adams.

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Yeah.

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He couldn't read the source stuff.

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No.

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And it's the same thing that he always does.

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Like with the avian flu stuff, he's operating off Paul Joseph Watson's assessment.

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All of these people like Mike Adams, like Paul Joseph Watson, like Kurt Nimmo back in

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the day, like Steve Watson, all of them serve the most essential purpose.

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And that is that they take whatever raw material is there and turn it into fuel that Alex can

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use.

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Yeah.

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Cause Alex can't use the raw material.

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He's not creative enough and he's can't be bothered to read.

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So he couldn't take these original articles or those studies and do this with it.

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You've read those studies.

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They're hard to read.

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Well, that first one actually wasn't the, the, the, I mean, there, there are plenty

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though that are like, you read those and you're like, holy shit, this is totally wow.

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Why?

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Whoa, man, you guys, you guys got to learn how to throw fuck in there before I pay any

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attention to this.

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Uh, frequently.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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The study that, uh, Dr. Ford was involved in in 2008, by the way, this mind control

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study.

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Yeah.

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It was very easy to read, but I will say that the second one was a nicer time back then.

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The second one was a little bit more difficult.

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Um, and so at the beginning of the clip, uh, Mike Adams, uh, he's making this argument

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that this group, the mental insight foundation, uh, funded the original study from 2008 that

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Dr. Ford is involved in.

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Yeah.

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And another study on a interception.

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So you could say they're a bit miffed.

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I'm sorry.

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Interoception.

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Yeah, I get you.

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Thank you.

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Good acronym work.

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So they're trying, they're trying to bridge the gap between these two, but at no point

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do they prove that myth was involved with, uh, Dr. Ford study and simultaneously they

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don't even prove or try to prove that the second study that they're talking about, Dr.

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Ford had anything to do with, or that it was even involving Stanford or anything.

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So here is Alex talking about this second study.

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And I will tell you this ahead of time.

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All he's doing is looking at a diagram from the study and imagining what it means.

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But then it gets even crazier.

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You got to go read this.

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It gets into the different waves to hit the heart, the amplitude to hit different organs

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to attack the stomach, to attack the brain.

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And it talks about in this huge paper, Vegas nerve stimulation, presentation of information

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during different phases of visceral rhythms and assessment.

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And it goes all three different waves.

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Like I told you to mind control you look at these documents.

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I did.

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So the important thing is that this, this, uh, document, uh, the study, it does include

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a picture of, uh, uh, the human body.

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And then there's pictures of different organs and then wave forms next to them.

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And it's very clear from the, the study that what they're doing is talking about a hypothetical

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example of the amplitude modulation signals superimposed on a static frequency.

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They're talking about the, uh, the sort of homeostatic rhythm that those organs are in.

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It's important because this article, and it's not so, so he kind of thinks that it's waves

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that are happening.

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He thinks, he thinks it's, and which would be fine.

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I wouldn't even be, I wouldn't even be better if he thought they were stink lines.

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He was like, this is how bad the liver stinks.

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Like I'm fine with that.

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And Mike Adams is facilitating that misunderstanding.

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Oh yeah, absolutely.

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So the first one, the first article is weak shit.

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And if anybody looked it up, they would see that the title of it is yoga meditation, uh,

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the hypnosis as a treatment for depression.

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And they, if they read it, they would find the conclusion being, eh, eh, eh.

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You know, maybe not statistically significant though.

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It's a Sigma.

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And they would see that Dr. Ford is one of 11 participants in this has nothing to do

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with anything nefarious at all.

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So that was weak shit.

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So that didn't demonstrate any of the things that Alex or Mike are claiming it does because

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that's the case.

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They have to dig a little deeper and in doing so they come up with the most flimsy connection

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to Dr. Ford to make their argument quote for Mike Adams.

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If you ventured even deeper down this rabbit hole, you find that the same mental insight

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foundation that funded the mass hypnosis mind control study on which Christine Ford work

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also helped another study, help fund another study called interoception and mental health,

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a roadmap.

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One problem is that this article nor any of its links prove that mental health, a mental

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insight foundation funded the depression study that Dr. Ford was involved in.

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From everything I can tell, this is speculative and unfounded.

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And if it's true, it doesn't mean anything.

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But from that shaky start, the health ranger then tries to make Ford look super suspicious

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because the company that allegedly provided funding for a study she was one of 11 researchers

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on did another study that she wasn't involved in 10 years later that Mike Adams is scared

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of.

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Even if everything he's saying there is true, it has zero to do with Ford.

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This is deeply disgraceful and so fucking unprofessional because this shit is weak too.

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Mike Adams has to play a three-card Monty game with this article in order to distract

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the reader from realizing he's saying nothing.

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He brings up the interoception article, which I'll talk about in a minute, then he quickly

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goes to how the globalists have created sonic weapons in order to implant that idea in his

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reader's heads about what the article must be about.

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And that's what Alex is reading on air talking about what he believes this study to be about.

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Right.

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So Mike Adams throws up a graphic where there are wiggle lines and then unrelated to that

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says, you know, sonic weapons are real and then comes back to it only as though as though

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those two were related in instead, sonic weapons are like a non sequitur in this whole situation.

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Only to be precise about it, he brings up sonic weapons early so that idea is implanted

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in your mind.

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So later when he puts that graphic on, right, squiggly lines, squiggly lines, sonic weapons.

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Absolutely.

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Makes sense.

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Yeah.

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Perfect.

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Good work, dude.

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So he's introduced the premise of this idea that the Mental Insight Foundation has done

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both of these studies.

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Right.

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And Ford is involved.

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Which he does not prove.

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Not at all.

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So then he brings up the sonic weapons and goes, like I said, he's implanting that in

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your mind.

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Right.

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Which don't exist.

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Then he executes this main sleight of hand, one that is unbelievably dishonest.

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After implanting the idea of sonic weapons in his reader's head, he says, quote, getting

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back to Christine Blasey Ford's work in interoception neuroimaging, the paper funded by Mental Insight

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Foundation openly admits that the neuroimaging roadmap can alter decisions, behavior, and

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even consciousness.

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It explains, quote, recent years have witnessed a surge of interest on the topic of interoception

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due in part to findings highlighting its integral role in emotional experience, self regulation,

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decision making, and consciousness.

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And importantly, interoception is not limited to the conscious perception or even unique

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to the human species.

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Dr. Ford has zero to do with this article about interoception and neuroimaging.

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Nothing to do with it.

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Her name isn't on it.

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No organization that she's involved in is involved in this article.

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So getting back to Christine Blasey Ford's work on interoception neuroimaging is a dishonest,

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deceitful way to present this.

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So oh, shit.

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So he pulls the trifecta.

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He goes unrelated thing up top.

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By the way, while you're thinking about that unrelated thing, thing that isn't real.

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Now let me remind you that she's involved in all this.

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Getting back to the thing that she was not involved in.

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But I'm just going to say, getting back to Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, and then grammatically,

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you have no choice but to accept that when I say, and ba da da da da da da, you think

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I'm connecting those two things together.

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However, I'm really not saying that they're related at all.

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He doesn't even go that far.

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He doesn't say and blank, blank, blank.

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He's very clearly, just from grammar, saying that she was involved in this study.

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Really?

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Which isn't a study, by the way.

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Dude, you could do better than that.

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It's really, that's why I say the sleight of hand is unprofessional as hell and deeply

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disgusting.

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It's trying to paint a picture that is absolutely not real.

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So she's only- That's why he's the health ranger, not the

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health colonel.

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She's only involved in that study about yoga and depression that Mike linked to in his

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article by, it's only linked in the article by claiming that this company funded them

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10 years apart.

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But he didn't even prove that.

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So additionally, this article about interoception is not about what Mike is claiming.

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Interoception is basically just the internal perceptions of what one's body is experiencing.

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Essentially, it's a word used to describe how the information from your body goes to

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your brain from your experiential organs and what have you.

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And this paper, which is not a study, it's a paper, just describes how external input

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is interpreted by the body and is in turn experienced by the brain.

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Ultimately, my interoceptive feeling today is one of fury because Mike Adams got me to

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read this long, boring science article for no reason.

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Even if it was about mind control, which it's not, it has nothing to do with Dr. Ford or

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anyone she's been shown to be involved with.

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Mike Adams is not a doctor, nor does he have any qualifications, but because he calls himself

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the health ranger and runs a bullshit medical conspiracy website, Alex brings him in to

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lend some authority to his disgraceful, embarrassing charades solely intended to create a grand

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conspiracy around Dr. Blasey Ford.

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Not believing her is not cruel enough for people like Alex.

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Not caring is not cruel enough for people like Alex.

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His lust for being a horrible person is not satisfied unless he publicly argues that her

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story and her pain are actually an attack on himself and all men.

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This is profoundly disgusting and I have no further words to describe it.

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It is shameful.

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Done.

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Now, there's a little bit more.

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You know, you did get it right, I think, right there, this entire thing.

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If like to the point where the only reason, because you, you have to think about this

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and you're like, there are other judges who would be just as awful.

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There's so many other judges who would be just as awful.

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But this isn't about, this isn't about him being judged.

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This is about, this is about men.

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This is about men destroying like white men.

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These dudes, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely white men.

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It's not explicit, but it's implicit.

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I mean, Clarence, Clarence Thomas is in there.

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Oh shit, Clarence Thomas, Clarence Thomas, Clarence Thomas, oh shit.

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It's about them, like if it had been, I feel like this is probably not true, but if you

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go to a place in your head, hypothetically, where it's like some guy goes in front of

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Congress and is like, this dude was drunk all the time.

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He has terrible decision making.

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He cheated and all that stuff.

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There would be none of this reaction, but because it was a woman and it was specifically

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about sexual violence, every one of these dudes, every single one of them in the fucking

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planet who are predisposed to say that women can never experience it.

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And if they do, they were asking for it.

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So it's always their fault.

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All of those dudes came out of the woodwork on this subconscious level of just screaming

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like it's not real.

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That's what all of these guys are screaming is just like, it is not real ever.

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It is not possible to do this because women are either asking for it and then it's their

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fault or they're lying about it and it's double their fault.

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Well, and then the third thing is, or we just don't care.

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Or we just don't care.

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And that's sort of the main- Which is where Jeff Flake is.

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That's sort of the mainstream right, especially- And Susan Collins and yeah.

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That's sort of where a lot of those people are, but because Alex demands to be special

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in some way.

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Right.

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And the only way he can express his specialness anymore in the Trump era is by abject cruelty.

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That's not good enough for him.

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Right.

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He needs to double down and this is his manifestation of it.

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Yeah.

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And it's really funny.

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We can laugh a ton about the idea of him coming on air and being like, she's a fucking mind

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control or whatever.

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Right.

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But the motivation behind it is deeply cruel.

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The motivation behind it is deeply abusive and I think he takes as read that it didn't

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happen.

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Oh yeah, absolutely.

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Or that he doesn't care even if it did.

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Of course.

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So all of the stuff that offends most right thinking people is just implied.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We don't even need to worry about that.

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Not only that, but- Look, if you want to just hear about how all women are lying about this

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shit, go somewhere else.

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Let me tell you about what's really going on.

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She's lying about that shit, but that's also because she can control minds.

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And as is made clear in that Mike Adams article, the entire charade, the entire thing of her

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coming and speaking to the Senate Judiciary Committee is an attempt and also the stories

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that have come out about it, it's all a mass hypnosis campaign that's being perpetrated

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on the public.

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Right.

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That's a way to invalidate everything.

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So even if you are somebody who normally supports conservatives, normally supports everybody,

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but you listen to her testimony and you realize, holy shit, I can hear a human being's voice

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and a human being's voice that has experienced pain.

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And even as far gone as I am, there's something intrinsic about when a human voice cries out

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in pain that I identify with.

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Let me tell you what I got for you, sir.

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You are a moment of empathy.

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Guess what I got for that?

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Mind control, baby.

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Get rid of that empathy and go back to hating women all you want.

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So that's about where I want to talk about this at.

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Yeah.

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And now I want to talk a little bit more about how bad a fucking dude Mike Adams is.

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Let's fucking...

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This guy needs to die.

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Well, I'll do...

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I think...

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Well, hold on.

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That's me.

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Have his testicles cut off.

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Me and this Georgetown law professor.

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Sorry, I stepped on your joke there.

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So the...

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You didn't step on it.

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You crushed it.

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So I'm not going to give you a breakdown of Mike Adams' greatest hits or anything like

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that.

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We can save that for another day.

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Right, right, right.

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But I started to get a real whiff of how bad a fucking writer he is, how bad of a storyteller

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he is within these articles, because I hadn't spent a lot of time reading his actual articles

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before.

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Yeah, why would you?

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And so it's really funny how shitty a researcher Mike Adams is.

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He's trying to paint this organization, Mental Insight Foundation, as some kind of arch villain

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group in this article.

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So he shows off his ability to Google things and then imply shit about what he's found.

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That's a good skill.

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It's so funny throughout this entire article.

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He says things like this, quote, we are not alleging any nefarious, unethical, or illegal

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activities on the part of Mental Insight Foundation.

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However, to help other internet researchers follow the many leads now uncovered in all

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this, we're publishing public information about this foundation that's readily available

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on online public text documents.

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He just got done.

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Wait.

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He just got done in this article saying that they're trying to control your minds and that

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Dr. Ford's testimony was a literal attempt to brain control the country.

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But also he has to make sure you know that he's not alleging any nefarious or unethical

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activities.

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Hey, hey, come on.

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So then he ends up listing a bunch of...

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Any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.

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Right.

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So yeah.

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At this point, Mike really steps in it.

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Quote, the Mental Insight Foundation took in a whopping $18 million in 2015 according

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to tax records.

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Its address is 538 Broadway, Suite A, Sonoma, California, which appears to be a single family

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house.

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This is complete bullshit.

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You can go to Google Street View and see that the address is in the commercial downtown

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district in Sonoma, California.

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It's across the street from Sonoma Valley Museum of Art and is exactly 463 feet away

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from Sonoma Plaza, the literal town square.

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Not to mention that Suite A is part of the address, which generally isn't a feature of

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single family homes.

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Also, you can find that Vintrace, a company that sells software to help vineyards run,

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is located in Suite B. But maybe that Vintrace is just a front for Dr. Ford's mind control

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weapon program.

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No, it's just a bigger family.

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So then Mike gets really conspiratorial at this point.

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Quote, that address...

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Vintrace?

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Vintrace.

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Vintrace?

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I want to hear more about them.

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It's like a...

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I like them.

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I looked into it a little bit.

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Yeah.

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I don't fully understand it because I don't run a fucking vineyard, but it's like a specialized

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software that vineyards can use in order to keep track of supply and when grapes need

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to be harvested and shit.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely nefarious then.

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You know what it is?

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It's exactly the same sort of software I've encountered in other jobs that are super specialized

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for one thing that no one else would know about.

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Yeah.

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Here's a basic thing.

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And then we took this basic thing and we made it super specific.

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We all know single family homes that are in Suite B when Vintrace corporate office is in

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Suite B.

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Dude, you hate it.

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You hate the moment when you have to grab your broom and you start pounding on the ceiling

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and you're like, quit learning about vineyards up there.

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So it gets even worse.

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Look, that address is the exact same address listed by Virginia Hubbell Associates, a small

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firm that says it offers, quote, consulting services for family foundations.

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If Mike had done any research, he would know that they share an office and operate as the

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same business.

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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what?

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Yeah.

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If he'd looked into-

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In the same place?

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I called them.

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Of course you did.

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Of course you did.

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I've never called anybody on this show.

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Of course you did.

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But their phone number was publicly available, so I called them and I called them right around

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lunchtime and I got the answering machine and they said, thank you for calling Virginia

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Hubbell slash mental insight foundation.

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It's the same fucking company.

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It's a, well, the, you, you know what, you left off the last part of that message, which

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is it's me, Marilyn and the kids, and we're just running these two separate financial

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businesses.

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Don't call it dinner time.

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If Mike had looked into this at all, he also could have find the MIF's 2006 tax forms that

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clearly show that Virginia Hubbell Associates is listed as the foundation managers of their

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organization.

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There's nothing weird about this.

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Virginia Hubbell Associates is a larger umbrella consultancy business and MIF is an entity

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that awards grants to various organizations.

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Lot of arts programs, a lot of children's education stuff.

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Right.

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Mind control.

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He goes on to list seven of the businesses that Virginia Hubbell lists as clients, curious

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that he chooses only to include the seven corporate clients and not list, let's say

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the city of Albuquerque.

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That is why people from Albuquerque are fucked up.

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You just explained everything.

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The city of Sonoma, the further proof wine country, the city of Reno, well, or Berkeley

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child art Institute.

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Who knows what those kids are or the community gardens project.

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Those gardens are made of mind control or starcross community, Romanian babies, health

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and welfare.

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You know what?

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They're never going to fall in love.

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It's a special place in my heart.

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It's been a little bit of time growing up in Bucharest, so shout out Romania.

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He lists the clients that he does solely so he can make this speculation quote.

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Most of the clients appear to be genuinely helpful organizations for society, but they're

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probably worth a second look from internet researchers.

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Probably notably the Levi Strauss corporation recently came out in favor of destroying the

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second amendment by pushing gun control.

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That's super weak.

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So Levi Strauss is one of the clients, the Virginia Hubbell associates.

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That's one of their seven.

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No, I pick that one up.

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Yeah.

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So yeah.

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He's like, they want to destroy the second amendment, which they don't.

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They just have expressed support for Colin Kaepernick and everyone's a, well, obviously

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that means, so everybody's dumb.

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Mike goes on to flail wildly about nothing.

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Quote statement 11 of the document, uh, he's talking about their like tax returns lists,

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the officers, directors, trustees, and key employees of the mental insight foundation.

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Notably they're all paid nothing except for the treasurer.

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In other words, most of the directors are paid nothing, but the management consultant

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Virginia Hubbell associates is paid $341,000.

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We're not alleging any unscrupulous activities among these individuals.

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They're public officers of a public foundation listed in a public document.

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These individuals are any lists off the officers, many of whom are named Kimpton, which is not

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suspicious unless you're the health ranger because Mike then says, quote, if you're noticing

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a lot of Kimpton names on this list, that's probably because one of the primary sources

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of income for the mental insight foundation is the Kimpton hotel group LLC, which generated

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$2.3 million in revenue for the foundation in 2015.

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There's nothing illegal about that.

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It's just an interesting note.

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No, it's not.

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I would say there's nothing legal about this.

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Yes.

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And there's nothing interesting to note.

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It's nothing interesting.

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The Kimpton family is exorbitantly rich, but they aren't old money rich.

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The patriarch of the family, bill Kimpton came from humble roots.

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He went to the army and after he got out, he became a typewriter salesman.

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Wait, I assume you're not reading from Mike Adams article.

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This is my research, I was going to say, I was like, if Mike Adams just went into the

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history of the Kimpton family, that would be a really interesting re yeah.

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Mike Adams research for this article is so bad that I feel the need to show off by telling

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you about the history of the Kimpton family.

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The patriarch of the family, bill Kimpton came from humble roots.

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He went to the army and then he, when he got out, he became a typewriter salesman.

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He eventually got into investment banking and made a whole lot of money, which he used

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to make even more money by opening the Kimpton family of hotels.

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Isn't that, isn't that amazing that there was a time where you could go from being a

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typewriter salesman to investment banker, just like, ah, you know what, this, this door

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to door typewriting isn't working out.

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This shit is heavy.

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I guess I'll invest in Apple, right?

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So now you created this hotel group, which it represents now over 35 high end hotels

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and 29 restaurants, but money was not his God quote.

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Once during an interview with success magazine, he stressed his belief that in America, success

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wasn't, was overly tied to earning money.

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Real success, he said, came from devoting oneself fully to family and friends.

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In that sense, he said, I've been partially successful quote, Mr. Oh my God, this guy

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has a right on it quote, Mr. Kimpton founded the mental health, sorry, mental insight foundation

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in 1996 and has funded a number of research projects into various forms of mental illness.

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The foundation has particular interest in treating depression, using therapy and meditation

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as alternatives to simply using prescription drugs, which is something that Alex should

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be super in favor of.

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You would think based on his whole anti meds standpoint, Kimpton and his life's work should

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be something that Alex is a hundred percent on board with.

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Bill died in April of 2001 and the mental insight foundation lives on in the stewardship

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of his wife, Isabel, his son, Graham, Kimpton, his daughter, Laura, Kimpton, her husband,

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Len Della, Mico, and other family members that I can't quite sort out who they are.

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You know, what's crazy is bill.

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Kimpton was actually Sophia's mentor could be out there.

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There's nothing strange in seeing this family's hotel group donating to this family's charity.

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All of this information is publicly available and Mike could have learned any of this if

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he cared about the story he was reporting at all, but it just Googled Kimpton.

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Mike goes on to say, quote, the foundation donated money to the following groups.

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We're not alleging anything nefarious on this list by the way, you really shouldn't need

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to put so many disclaimers in one article unless you're lying out your ass about it.

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Right.

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You know why he's doing that though?

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Because he knows lying out his ass about it.

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Well there's that.

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And he also knows how unhinged the people who are the internet researchers that might

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follow up with these leads are.

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We want internet researchers to go to the Kimpton family's house and then pull a gun

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on them and then fire into the wall.

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It's not that big a deal, maybe not that far, but he is encouraging the potential harassment

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of these philanthropists.

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Kimpton gate.

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Right.

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I know.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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And so he's preemptively creating damage control in the article.

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We're not saying anything bad here, but maybe this is interesting.

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This is pathetic.

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And he was probably pissed that he had to put it in there in the first place.

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He was, he was probably like, exactly.

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He's watching everybody else get sued and he's like, God damn it.

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I can't even make these claims full of, yeah.

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He got in a bunch of hot water cause he's the guy who created hog watch that website

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that was entirely about harassing David hog in the aftermath of, uh, of the Parkland shooting.

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What he created hog watch.com God, if that was just a webcam of some hogs, that would

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actually probably be great.

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Oh, by the way, our friend, uh, Sarah Shockey of the great Marty and Sarah love a wrestling

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podcast, uh, tweeted something recently about, uh, there's a fat bear watch week or something

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like that the national parks put on where they have like eyes on fat bears.

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That's great.

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I love it.

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Now.

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This is what hog watch could have been that Adams.

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You stole hog watch from us.

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Fat bear watching and a gritty.

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The uh, the mascot are the only things, the fillies, the only things that gave me hope.

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Those are, those are doing great.

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Fat bear watch.

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That was like a, wasn't there, wasn't there like a, so much better than shark week.

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Fat bears.

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Oh, fat bears.

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Well, it's just cause we're so familiar with shark week.

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True.

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True.

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If once, you know, Dan, I hate to say this, but I think we're getting into a very bear

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V shark conversation.

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This is a McKelder moment.

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This is a McKelder moment.

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So I want to just nail this home reading over Mike Adams work.

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All I have to say is that this is the definition of pathetic, sloppy, amateurish research as

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someone who takes hours and hours getting to the bottom of these stories that Alex and

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his ilk spin, I'm personally offended by how lazy and childish this article that Mike Adams

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put out is there's literally no substance other than outright lies and irresponsible

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conjecture that he could disprove with 10 minutes of work.

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Fuck him and fuck Alex Jones because we know why they're doing it.

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Oh yeah, it's very clear anyway.

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You know what, Dan, sometimes you gotta just pull out all the stops to confirm a monster

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to the Supreme Court and destroy the Alex actually later in the episode puts all his

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cards on the table accidentally when a caller calls in and makes it very abundantly clear

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that the only reason that you fight hard for, uh, for Cavanaugh is because he supports the

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Trump agenda.

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Yeah.

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And Alex literally says Cavanaugh has told Trump that he's going to push his agenda,

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which if that's true, that's disqualifying.

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That's pretty much the only thing that that's that's just awful.

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I would hate that if a judge said that to Obama, like I would hate that if a judge said

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that to the greatest liberal possible candidate, you know, like if a dream liberal president

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was him.

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Yeah.

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And they, and they had a, no, come on after the first couple of purges, it would be great.

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No, no, no, no.

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You give it a couple of years, we get rid of a lot of folk.

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Don't worry about it.

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It'll be fine.

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You need to read more.

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So the thing is like, yeah, it's like an ideal president in there.

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If they had some sort of back door meeting or back room meeting with a potential Supreme

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Court candidate and they said, I'm going to push your agenda through, I would say that's

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absolutely disqualifying even though I agree with the agenda.

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Yeah.

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That is not how the courts should work.

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But that's the, that's the point of what we're living through right now is that it's becoming

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right absolute like there's no, it's war and one side doesn't recognize it's war.

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Yeah, no, exactly.

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Or what?

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Absolutely fucking nailed it.

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One side is complacent to some extent and uh, I'm not, I'm not advocating for treating

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it like war outside of recognizing that the other side sees it that way.

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I don't think that, I don't think that right thinking normal people should see it as, as

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war.

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The other side should prepare themselves to like actually fucking protest.

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You know, like, I mean, I don't, I don't mean that in any like, Hey, let's go set fire to

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a building.

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Nothing like that.

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As long as there isn't anybody in there.

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No, I'm saying, wait, what?

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I'm saying that, you know, we, we might end up seeing 1968 conventions again, you know,

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we might be in that position where we all on the left need to get ready to get hit.

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What do you mean might?

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Right.

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We're there.

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Yep.

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That's it.

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And we need to get real with it.

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Cause the other side is fucking real.

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They've been real for fucking 10 years now.

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Right.

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They saw a black man get elected president and they decided that that was the day that

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they declared war and we were all like, well, a black man has declared president, so maybe

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things are going to be better now.

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And they've just been fucking fighting a war that we thought was, we thought was salt.

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I think that we maybe, I can't speak for everybody, but I think that a lot of people on the left

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probably thought like, well, this will be like a version therapy.

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You know, like you're scared of spiders, go in a room with spiders, you know, like my

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brother keeps bees.

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He has a bee house at his house.

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I'm terrified of bees.

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As does friend of the show, Matt Droufke.

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But going to the bee house and standing next to it and the bees not fucking with me, recognizing

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that generally bees have business.

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They're doing something.

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The idea of them flying all around me and not touching me, like I'm not fucking with

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them.

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They're not fucking with me.

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It's just a form of aversion therapy.

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And we're kind of hoping that the idea of like a black man being in office is very scary

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to you.

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Right.

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But do you see all that stuff that you thought was going to happen?

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It didn't happen.

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Now we're fine.

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Right.

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And then they were just like, no, it did happen.

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So let's do it.

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That didn't work because propaganda and information warfare of the like that Alex puts out into

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the world is too, it's too effective and it doesn't respond to reality.

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It responds to what is the message?

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What is the, what is the targeted attack?

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So I'm going to skip this next clip because we've already talked about all these studies

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and it's fucking bullshit.

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We don't need to talk about it more.

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But suffice it to say in this clip that I'm going to skip, Alex says that she advocates

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torture methods in one of these studies.

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Oh, oh, does she?

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Yep.

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That's so unusual.

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But the specific language that he uses allows me to trace down where in the study he's talking

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about.

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And actually it's a paragraph about using flotation tanks as a therapeutic method.

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Right.

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So good work guys.

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Well, because they're like, like flotation tanks do like they're talking about it in

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the context of like it could create an emotional response.

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It could create anxiety.

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It's an isolation tank as well as flotation.

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It's not like, yeah, no, no, I get that warped that and Alex is warping it to, to, to, uh,

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to report it.

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There's a big difference between saying, Hey, get alone in this tank by yourself and deal

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with your own thoughts and uh, Hey, we're going to pour water in your throat to torture

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you.

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Or there's even a difference between like being forced to be in an isolation tank and

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choosing to.

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Yeah.

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It's called the United States justice system.

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Yep.

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So, uh, here we go.

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Let's get back into it.

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Alex has, uh, claims to reiterate, I can hardly even read this.

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It's so stunning.

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This is just some of the papers.

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This is some of what we're dealing with.

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And of course she is, she is literally a mind control doctor, a university standard program

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for false memories.

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Now trying to destroy the Supreme court nominee.

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My God, this is beyond two plus two equals four.

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I think you meant to say two plus two equals five because that's a sort of normal thing,

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but it's kind of fucked it up there.

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No, it's beyond two plus two equals four, which means it's two plus two equals five,

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Dan.

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Two plus two equals six.

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What?

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How dare you?

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What is this?

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What is this?

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Non-Euclidean geometry.

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Get the fuck out of here.

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On a recent episode, Alex called himself the ministry of truth, which is the people who

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put out two plus two equals five in 1984.

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So not sure what I think about anything anymore.

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So Jordan, I'll tell you what I think about the truth.

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Don't matter.

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So I told you earlier that, uh, uh, lawyer to the Nazi stars and Alex Jones, Mark Rondaso

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shows up on the show a little bit later.

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That's his name.

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Mark Rondaso.

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He shows up and we have gotten to that point and let's see why he's on the show.

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You know, a real liberal, a good liberal is Mark Rondaso, probably the top of first amendment

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lawyer in the country.

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He certainly has the most courage and I've got him on about a brief statement here and

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then we'll get into some other issues while we have him.

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We have filed a action, uh, in defense of our rights in California, uh, in San Francisco

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dealing with PayPal because they tell us that the last day we can use them is Thursday.

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And so we filed an injunction.

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Info Wars files emergency injunction against PayPal and federal court.

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So if anyone out there doesn't know about this, Alex Jones has been kicked off PayPal

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as a processor for his, uh, his, uh, wares that he sells online or what have you.

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Interestingly, he's been kicked off.

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Everything else.

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Didn't sue anybody else.

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He chose, this is the one I'm going to fucking fight about because it's the one that really

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cuts into my fucking bottom line because it has something to do with money.

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So I've read his entire brief cause they, they posted that online.

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They posted the complaint that they filed and largely would it stop it.

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Stop.

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Y'all take me on PayPal.

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Stop.

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Come on.

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No, not far off.

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Okay.

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Um, the, that seems to boil down to two arguments.

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One of them is about, um, the idea that, um, his civil rights are being violated.

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Doesn't sound right because they are targeting him because of his political beliefs.

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Now, uh, in terms of the protected classes, political beliefs is not one of them, but

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just because it's not listed as one of the classes in the, like, uh, in the actual text

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doesn't necessarily mean that it could not be deemed one later on.

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Yeah.

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It does include like sexual sexual orientation isn't listed in it, but it's interpreted as

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it being included.

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Right.

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So the idea on that basis is like, eh, you can make an argument.

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I don't think that's what PayPal or any of these people are doing.

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I don't think it's about your politics.

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I think it's about how you keep doing things like you're doing on this episode.

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Yeah.

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If his argument was like, Oh, PayPal is only attacking me because I support Brett Kavanaugh.

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Right.

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You're like, all right, well no, that's probably not okay.

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Or like you could make, probably is in huge scare quotes.

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If you wanted to make the argument of something like, I got kicked off because I believe in

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trickle down economics, I believe in small government, I believe in the right to own

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guns.

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Right.

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I think that you could, like if that did happen, I don't think it would ever would, but if

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that did happen, I think you could use that Unruh human rights, civil rights act in order

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to make that argument.

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The reason that people are kicking Alex off is because he keeps being a fucking dick that

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ruins people's lives through lies and they don't need to prove a criminal act in order

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to kick him off their platform.

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It's not like they're a bank or anything like that.

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They're just a financial transaction entity.

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They can do that all they want.

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I think he's going to have a problem with that because it's not his political beliefs

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that are getting him kicked off.

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It's his actions.

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So his second argument that he's trying to make in this brief is that infowars.com is

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the news site.

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Infowarsstore.com is not political and that is the only site that uses PayPal.

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So PayPal is punishing him by cutting off infowarsstore.com for off platform content.

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This is an interesting argument.

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That is an interesting argument.

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I don't think anyone outside of a courtroom would say, go fuck yourself.

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Yeah, of course.

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But inside a courtroom, I don't know how that works.

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No, exactly.

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No, no, no.

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Because I can absolutely understand where that argument is coming from.

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Right.

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They're both owned by Free Speech Systems Incorporated.

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It's tough to see a disconnect between the two as being operated as separate entities.

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But sure, he doesn't post harassing content on infowarsstore.com.

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So I don't know.

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They make the argument in the brief that everything that has to do with the sales is just linked

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from infowars.com.

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None of it is hosted on there.

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So all of the PayPal stuff is all on infowarsstore.com.

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That's a less compelling argument.

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I think he's going to lose that, too.

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But it's more interesting, at least.

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It's at least like, ah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I just see what you're doing there.

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No, no.

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See, that's interesting.

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That's sneaky.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That's a classic loophole where you're like, oh, you got me.

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We didn't write that into the law first because when we wrote the law, we didn't realize that

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you were full of bullshit like this.

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Yeah.

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Because if we had written those laws, we were like, oh, and also if you have a URL that's

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similar.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I'd also like to be deposed in this case.

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I would like them to subpoena me because I would like to give testimony about the fortifiedsupply.com

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that Alex was running, that illegal sales website.

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I wonder if they're allowed to use PayPal.

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I think they did.

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Yeah, I think they did.

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Oh.

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They absolutely did.

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Ooh.

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But then after we started reporting on it, we changed it to Infowars Survival.

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Oh, isn't that surprising?

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Weird.

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Weird how that changed so quick.

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Yeah.

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So that's why Mark Rondazzo is on, to talk about how they're suing PayPal.

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It's not going to work, although I'm interested in it more than a lot of his other lawsuits.

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And I'm not interested all that much because I see it as a desperation act because it's

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all he can do.

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He knows he's probably going to lose it, but because he's putting this legal action into

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place, he's allowed to use PayPal for two weeks longer because there's an injunction

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if he creates this legal action.

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Until we see the results of this court case, we cannot kick you off PayPal.

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There's a decent chance that that's the game he's playing just on his own.

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And maybe that'll buy him enough time to set up something else.

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Whether or not-

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Have Mike Adams set up his own PayPal clone?

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Exactly.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Like he's done with real.video?

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Hey, hold on.

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That's a completely different thing.

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Real.money.

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Ah, it's different.

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Sure.

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Or maybe go back and fucking, I don't know, get back into gold.

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So I don't know, man.

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Now this is where things go really funny.

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Mark Rondazzo sucks.

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He does suck, but he doesn't suck that much.

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Now, here's my theory.

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Mark Rondazzo is actually great, and he's figured out the game, and he has taken these,

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like he has taken these fucking, what are the Remoras?

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What are the ones, the little fish that suckle on the shark and keep it clean?

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Damn it.

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This is a weird-

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No.

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God damn it.

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No, no.

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I know what you're talking about.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Those sort of symbiotic parasites.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He's figured out that those guys are never going to get the lawyers that the sharks actually

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have.

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So he's like, oh, I'll fucking lawyer up on these dudes.

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No big deal.

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Like why, if he is filing this lawsuit, the best thing that he could do to say to Alex

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Jones was, don't make me file this lawsuit.

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We're going to lose.

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But he does not make any money if he says, don't file this lawsuit, we're going to lose.

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You've already expressed it on this very episode, the billable hours, billable hours, billable

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hours.

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Billable hours.

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God, he's smart.

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Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.

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And this is a great place to go because he's fucking desperate.

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But if he was super craven and just some sort of a like whore for the billable hours and

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a whore for all this stuff, he'd probably kiss Alex's ass a little more than he does.

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This clip where Alex is going to compare himself to someone it is very unfair for him to compare

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himself to.

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And Martin Luther King Jr. close.

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Mark has a great response.

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This whole move by whole industries to bar people from the marketplace, it really smacks

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of, you know, not letting black folks eat at the lunch counters.

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Oh my God.

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I wouldn't go that far.

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Love it.

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Boom.

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I also would not go that far.

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That's the place of superiority you get to live in when you're that guy.

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Oh yeah.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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You like to, you get to shit on these people.

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You get to charge him all this money.

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You know you're going to lose.

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He's in a great spot.

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And publicly I will not agree with that statement.

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Exactly.

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Privately I might be like, you bet.

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Yeah, yeah.

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No, no.

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In the office I'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

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It's exactly like black people.

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Anyways.

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So the check clears.

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Did you see this paper?

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Did you see this paper?

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So like it is.

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It's got a lot of numbers on it.

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I'm not going to lie to you.

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There are a few zeros on this that you did not maybe expect there were going to be.

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So anyways, we're going to win this case, buddy.

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We're going to do it.

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All right.

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All right.

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Sign it.

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Sign it.

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We're going to win it.

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Sign it.

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Sign it.

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This next comparison to black people not being allowed to eat places is bad.

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This next comparison might be worse.

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Listen, we have to fight back.

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Everybody knows that if you get a big mega system and the big banks link up and they

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start denying people the right to commerce, shipping because of who they claim you are,

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when you haven't committed a crime or done anything wrong or engage in fraud, it's true

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persecution.

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It's Hitler's dream.

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The first thing Hitler did was start curtailing how Jews and others can do business.

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Hitler who you called a complete bad ass.

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And then the rest is history.

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And so this is happening.

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I'm all a free market, sacrosanct, your business, whatever.

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Are you?

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But when they all work in unison and say, we're going to destroy you, it's serious.

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Oh, so you're for net neutrality then, right?

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You also have, he hasn't proved that they were working in unison.

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They absolutely are like people in those companies have said we were not working together now,

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but they probably Colin Kaepernick has proved that they are working together.

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The NFL teams.

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Yeah.

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But they're not like, uh, I'm sure that nobody within those companies would be like, look,

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we're cowards.

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And we were just waiting for someone else to do, and then we all just jumped on board,

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which is obviously what happened.

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But the truth is no one was acting in coordination or anything like that.

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Nobody was like, all right, are we all going to get rid of him?

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Aha.

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No, but that's how Alex needs to contextualize the world around him.

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Working against him is part of some giant fraud, some giant, uh, scam.

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And uh, it's cowardly and that's how he allows himself to compare himself to the fucking

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Jews and the Holocaust.

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That's just so, by the way, didn't happen according to Alex.

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So just in case you're wondering, it didn't happen the way you wanted it to.

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Right.

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Right.

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Oh yeah.

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I imagine Alex, like this whole situation brings me to this like a mental picture of

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uh, like in the 1920s, all of these rich investment bankers sitting around the ticker tapes showing

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the stock prices and all that shit.

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And then one of them just sees like, Oh my God, PayPal kicked him off.

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And then the rest of them were like, Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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And they get on their rotary phones and they're like, Oh, kick him off too.

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Kick him off too.

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You just see paper flying.

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Yeah, exactly.

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You guys are a bunch of fucking cowards fuck off.

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It's all just fantasies about your place in life and how the world works.

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It's stupid.

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Yeah.

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Um, so in this next clip, see, I, like I said, I think that Mark Rondaso sucks, but also

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he doesn't suck totally.

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Yeah.

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He's clearly pushing back at least publicly on Alex's dumb bullshit.

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Um, and he's also not all that into Kavanaugh, which is nice to express on Alex's show.

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Fascinating.

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Yeah.

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Um, you know, I've been before judges who are somewhat tyrannical and not really open

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to listening to both sides of things.

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And the way that he performed there on the stand made it, uh, that this is not somebody

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I'd like to see on the court.

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I think we can do better.

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Um, but you know, it's, it's not to do the accusations.

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It's really to deal with how he's dealt with them.

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And I think if we've got nine people in that court and somebody put on there for life,

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I don't want somebody who seems like he's going to turn into a, you know, caged badger

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when he's questioned.

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How dare you be reasonable.

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And Alex's response, long pause, but if you're innocent of these outrageous charges of normal

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personally and very, very angry, but, uh, I'm not looking for normal people in the Supreme

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Court.

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I was not terribly impressed with that.

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So that's a, oh my God, I intentionally, I intentionally didn't play

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the part where he was like, I think they're both lying.

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Like, uh, he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Both are fine.

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Fine.

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I didn't play that part because I thought that would prejudice you against experiencing

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that.

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That was a great moment.

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That clue.

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I mean, yeah.

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If you take, if you take the, all the arguments out of it and just be like, you seem like

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a fucking dick.

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Uh, I, yeah, but I think a normal person would get angry about that.

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Yeah.

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But there are nine people who do this job in all of America, in all of the world for

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life forever.

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So maybe we shouldn't find a normal guy.

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How about that?

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Alex is super, super defensive about it.

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And after this, he asks, uh, Mark is like, all right, Hey, you got to come back after

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the break.

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And what you need to do is what I want you to do is on the spot, come up with your defense.

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If you're innocent and they accuse you of that, they never get back to that.

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No, of course not.

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Because the off air, there was a moment where it was like, I'm not going to fucking do this

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anymore.

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Yeah.

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No.

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Goodbye.

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Yeah.

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Also.

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Yeah.

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Oh me.

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I almost, I almost halfway expect him to have charged Alex like this call.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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For real.

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It's written into the bottom line.

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I'll tell you it's written into the bottom line.

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I don't know if he charged them specifically for these hours.

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I do know however, that if he's going on Alex's show, that's because there was a line item

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somewhere in the invoice that was like for bullshit that you need me to do.

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Well, it's interesting because Mark's been on the show before and we've even covered

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an episode that he was on before, uh, when, when he was just his lawyer in other circumstances.

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Um, but like, which is something I hope never to hear myself say, Oh no, I remember this

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guy cause he was in my lawyer from other circumstances.

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This instance is far more like than other times, uh, him being, he seems very unhappy

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to be there.

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Yeah.

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He seems like he's there under duress a little bit.

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Uh, but in this, in this next clip, Alex lays out the shittiest list of, uh, accusations

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against Dr. Ford, uh, and then makes a very unfair comparison.

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Now we've got her working for big pharma.

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Are you four 86?

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That's the reason she doesn't like Kavanaugh.

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Obviously she takes more.

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Where are you against 86?

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I see that as a motive and you've got her as a big Hillary supporter, but what about

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her involved in mind control style programs of false memories, new memories funded by

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DARPA and co-authoring major studies at Stanford that's coming up after Mark Ronda leaves us.

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That is just insane.

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You've got her whole family in the CIA basically, and then you've got this creme dala creme

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project of DARPA and then you've got the Unabomber and you've got the, the, uh, Aurora shooter

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and they're all in these same programs.

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Earlier I showed mainstream news, psychology today, LA times, all of it.

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He showed that mainstream news about like Ted Kaczynski being in those like LSD trials

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and the MK ultra stuff from like the sixties and stuff like that.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah.

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He also showed articles where James Holmes said, uh, I'm being mind controlled, which

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is something that a lot of mass shooters end up saying something that a lot of people do

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to avoid taking responsibility for their actions.

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Hey, anyways, we should murder Andreas Breivik anyways, continue.

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Oh boy.

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Yeah.

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I don't even want to talk about it.

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Yeah.

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He came back into my life recently.

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I was, I told, I mentioned earlier in the show, I was doing some looking into red ice

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radio.

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Oh no.

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Turns out they're a big fans.

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No.

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And that really bummed me out.

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Oh my God.

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Anyway.

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Oh, kill him.

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So this list of accusations is really fucking flimsy based on everything that we've talked

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about already and based on how all this is bullshit.

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And then he gets to the end there and he's talking about like Ted Kaczynski and James

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Holmes.

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They're involved in these MK ultra programs.

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And the only thing that he's trying to imply there is that the people who were the subjects

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of the studies that Dr. Ford is involved in are going to be the next crop.

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She's creating Unabomber when the study that she's doing is this

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innocuous yoga meditation study about curing depression that had ambivalent results.

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Dan, have you ever, have you never read Marvel?

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That's how we got the red skull.

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Is that right?

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Yoga.

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Yoga?

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Yoga gave us the red skull, Dan.

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Oh boy.

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I'll tell you that right now.

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Super soldier yoga.

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Sure.

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Yep.

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So this next clip, my man.

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Don't waggle your eyebrows.

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Don't give me an eyebrow waggle again.

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I like waggle my eyebrows.

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I know you like it.

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So in this next clip, Alex, he's talking about the idea that like, so Kavanaugh withdraws.

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And then of course the next choice Trump would have is judge Amy Barrett.

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That's sort of his presumption is she would be the person that gets put in his place.

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So he lays out, this is a Mike down clip.

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Okay.

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Thanks for giving me enough time.

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No problem.

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But he lays out what would happen in that circumstance.

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And then at the end of this, Alex says something while Mark is talking that is so fucking funny.

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We let them get away with this.

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They'll do it again and again.

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But, but I agree.

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They're not going to buy if they, if he puts Barrett up that she raped women, I mean, I

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think because they're going to have women come out, they're going to all be MK ultra

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professors probably too.

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And they'll say, she's wearing a cat woman outfit.

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I saw her slit children's throats, drink the blood and, and, and people, I don't think

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will buy it if they do that.

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What do you think?

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Look, I think that whoever they put, I mean, I think there's enough blame to spread around

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to everybody.

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So is that a plus or a negative here?

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It's so deadpan.

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It's not played as a joke.

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I don't fucking know what he's doing.

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The instincts are so weird.

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His, his fucking free speech lawyer is trying to respond to his stupid idea about what could

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happen if Barrett is put in.

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That's one of the weirdest deliveries I've ever heard.

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The monstrous things happen in real life.

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But fuck if somebody's saying under their breath while a lawyer is talking bear, rape

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me.

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It's not funny.

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Also.

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God damn it.

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The implication that if Barrett is presented as a Supreme court candidate, then the Democrats

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are going to say that she slid a kid's throat and drank her blood.

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I would say that the only person who makes that accusation on the reg is named Alex fucking

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Jones.

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He's the person who accused people of drinking children's blood.

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Yeah.

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Is that worse?

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Oh.

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Do you know what's amazing?

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It's from the fucking hundreds.

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What's a fucking amazing is that eleven hundreds.

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Um, no, I bet if she was nominated to the court, she would have been approved by like

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56 members of the fucking Senate because the democratic party is fucking garbage.

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Somehow they managed to pick the only candidate who would not immediately get confirmed.

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Because they're so fucking stupid and then they have to double down because that it fends

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their masculinity of bullshit.

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I fucking, I, I would, I, and Amy Barrow would be worse like Amy Barrow would be fucking

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a monster.

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Sure.

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But they still have to fucking allow the guy because how dare you say that men could possibly

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do shit like that.

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Fuck you.

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Well, unfortunately this is something that I believe the right would be like, I don't

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think that it's, uh, sort of like, uh, what is that when, uh, when a cop tricks you in

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trap entrapment, I don't think it's entrapment that they've ended up defending these positions

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the way they have.

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Right.

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But I don't think it was their first choice.

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I think that the reason they got backed into this is that Trump chose a guy who would say

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of the idea of the unitary executive, the idea that he can't be called to subpoena.

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He can't be charged with things.

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Like they could just say like, you know what?

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Fuck you, Cavanaugh.

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Go back to being whatever bullshit you are.

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Hope you don't get impeached.

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Exactly.

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The best move for them right now, like not, I guess for them in the future, the only strategic

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move is washing your hands and trying someone else and trying somebody and trying somebody

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like Barrett.

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Yeah.

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And what they are doing is exactly what is happening to, uh, what they're all watching

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happen to, uh, Collins and Murkowski right now where they're like, well, what if they

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don't vote for Cavanaugh because they're women?

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Not because any other possible reasons, but because they're women.

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So we can't trust women to always do the things that we want them to do.

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Even as they watch Collins and Murkowski be the dumbest fucking senators in history.

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Yeah.

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I don't know what to say about that.

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They're all dumb.

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No, I know.

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I know.

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Like on a strategic as well as tactical level and somehow they're still going to fucking

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win.

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I hate it.

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I hate this world.

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I'm not critiquing your analysis.

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I just don't really, I don't really know what to say about it, you know?

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So we were done, I guess for the minute now with the, uh, the sort of Cavanaugh defense,

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weird shit.

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Weird shit.

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Yeah.

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Super weird shit.

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She can control minds though.

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I think that's been proved.

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She's a mind controller.

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No, they've, they've presented enough evidence where I can safely say that she controls the

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minds of anyone who comes within 60 feet of her.

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Yeah.

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So, but we're done with that as a narrative for now and Alex gets into a little bit of

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a different narrative that man, I just fucking, I hate this.

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America is this super open, inclusive country, and then now you've got the LGBTP, I had pedophiles

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again.

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It was more and more.

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That's, that's part of it.

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Six year old pupils write gay love letters to learn, to accept diversity.

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We're gonna play the video of that coming up.

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So you put your children in school and they tell six year olds, little boys write love

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letters to boys.

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Girls write to girls.

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This is people sexualizing your children.

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No, it's not.

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This is a story out of the BBC.

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It was about a classroom that they were discussing a fairytale.

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Was it in America?

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No, it was in Britain.

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It was in the UK.

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So they're discussing a fairytale where in there's a prince who's in love with a dude

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and the two of them get, they want to get together.

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So the teacher of the Netflix show.

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And the teacher of the class made an assignment where the kids write a love letter from one

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party to the other.

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It's not a, if you're a girl, write to a girl, if you're a boy, write to a boy.

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It's a write a love letter to somebody else.

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Within the context of this story.

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From the perspective of another character in the story, almost an empathy exercise.

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And the teacher gave an interview and she's talking about the idea that like, if you grow

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up and when you grow up, what you'll find is diversity around you.

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You're going to end up running into people of different identities, different orientations.

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And if we make people comfortable with that as children, they won't be weirded out by

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it later in life.

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It'll be something that they'll be able to empathize with going forward.

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I see nothing wrong with this because it's not like the teacher is like, hey, write a

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letter about how you want to suck his dick.

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It's not that at all.

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And if you really want to take issue with this, you have to take issue with all fairytales.

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You have to take issue with heterosexual stories being in part, like romantic stories.

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They're sexualizing children.

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Right.

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How old was Cinderella, Dan?

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Oh my God.

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She was 14.

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Snow White was asleep.

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She was dead.

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Right.

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Wait, was she?

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Yeah.

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No, she's fine.

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In a coma.

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He's Terry Shivo-ing it.

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Can't allow her to leave.

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So this narrative to me is oompus bumpus.

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But at the same time, you hear Alex again now, every time he says LGBT, he makes a point

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of bringing in the P.

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Yeah.

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I'm amazed-

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It's like, you're making it worse, Alex.

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I'm amazed that you can-

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You're making your argument so much flimsier.

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I'm amazed that you can be absolutely wrong in one sentence in all directions at the same

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time.

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Yeah.

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Like, hey, America's just an amazing, inclusive country.

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Then you have these LGBTQ pedophiles in here and you're like, whoa, wait.

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No, no, no.

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The first thing you said was invalidated by the second thing you said, which makes me

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think that the first thing you said wasn't even true in the first place.

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Queers just want to fuck kids, buddy.

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The correct answer is America is not an inclusive place and it just pretends to fucking be.

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And the people who are trying to make it an inclusive place are the ones who are being

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murdered by your fucking dumb bullshit.

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So fuck you.

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Yep.

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It's pretty bad.

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How dare you?

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How dare he be?

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I don't want him kicked off of Facebook and PayPal and all of that shit for all of the

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horrors that he's done.

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I want him kicked off for that shit.

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For being able to say America's an inclusive place, but we shouldn't have everybody that

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would make it an inclusive place.

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I get that mentality.

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You're ruining language.

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I get that mentality, but this still to me falls under free speech.

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Like I don't think you should kick somebody off for this.

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I'm all for free speech.

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I just want it to make sense.

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Oh, I would love it.

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If your free speech doesn't make sense, then fuck off.

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I would love for free speech to make sense, but unfortunately it doesn't.

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And in instances like this, I wouldn't advocate Alex being kicked off anything for saying

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things like LGBT equals P. No, I would say send him to a reeducation camp.

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And this is why I should be president.

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Right?

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Oh, fucking.

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Now you've triggered a thought in my brain.

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Oh, is this a bad thing?

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No, it's fine.

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So the reeducation camp thing brought up in my memory, uh, this, I don't know why it's

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a one-to-one trigger, but I thought of Larry Nichols.

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Of course, of course.

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In 2015, you would talk about these reeducation camps coming for us because do you know what

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happened?

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Christine Ford planted in that memory to put a one-to-one.

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So anytime somebody says reeducation camp to you, you think call Larry Nichols.

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And in fairness, I often think of Larry Nichols.

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He haunts me.

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Yeah.

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Tell me about it.

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His whole, his whole thing was, uh, the, like the, the FEMA provisional government, Obama's

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going to use it to take over and everybody's going to go into camps, which is a big part

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of Alex's worldview.

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So I thought it was very weird today.

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We're recording this on the third, we're recording it on Wednesday cause you are, you have a

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show on Thursday.

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So you couldn't record on Thursday today, all of us got a text from the president.

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I didn't.

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You didn't?

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No.

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Lucky you.

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I did.

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Almost everybody got a text from this test of the FEMA emergency alert system run by

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the president.

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Yeah.

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I assume that that's what we're going to talk about.

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Alex hates FEMA.

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He has this super terrible fear of these FEMA camps, which we're hearing in 2009 off to

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the present.

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He hates FEMA.

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They're the worst.

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It's all about the COG, the continuity of government.

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They're trying to create these emergencies in order to put people in fucking camps and

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then kill them off.

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I'm not going to do it.

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I'm not going to a camp.

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You're not going to rape my family in a camp first.

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I would be angry too.

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He had an article on infowars.com today about this text message to everybody in America

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that is being put out by FEMA at the president's beck and call.

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Right and how it's a great idea.

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It's not only that it's a great idea, he's mocking the idea that anyone would be against

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it.

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The article on Infowars legitimately was, look at all these dumbbells afraid of Trump's

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most innocuous move of all.

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You know what?

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I don't want America to collapse because I live here, but at this point, I'm all for

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it.

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I legitimately had the article.

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This is awful.

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This existence is miserable.

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I had the article up on infowars.com on my screen.

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I was going to keep it up so I could look at it now, but my browser said malware detected.

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Yeah.

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Good call.

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Infowars.com apparently is no longer a super safe website.

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Smart.

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I closed that window.

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But the entire thing is just this long making fun of people who are libtards, I guess, who

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are shocked by and against the president using FEMA in order to text all of them at the same

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time.

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Then at the end of it.

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No, don't do this.

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Don't give me a stinger.

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Sales pitch.

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Don't do it.

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Alex is like, but if you want Infowars news on your phone.

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No.

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No.

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No.

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Son of a bitch.

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It's amazing.

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You fucking asshole.

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In an article he doesn't add pivot.

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It's crazy.

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It's crazy to see in print.

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So speaking of ad pivots, oh man, and this next clip, Alex is talking about how he doesn't

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want to sue people, but he's got to, he's got to, and see these people don't want you

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looking at it.

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They don't want you investigating it.

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They don't want you talking about it and they don't want this broadcast up here getting

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into it and that's why they're trying to shut us down.

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I'll tell you something right now, you think I want to sue the Pepe, the frog creator when

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he sued me?

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Yes.

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I had to sue him even though he tried to settle for nothing because they just want to tell

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me what images I can use when it's fair use and he said it was fair use.

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You think I want to sue PayPal?

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I got to stand up against this mark of the beast system, but I'm doing it and that's

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why I need you to fund our operation.

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Boom.

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Yup.

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Boom.

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Boom.

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Boom.

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Boom.

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Boom.

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Boom.

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Boom.

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Boom.

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Hold on.

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Hold on.

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Hold on.

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Hold on.

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Hold on.

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Hold on.

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You do not get to do an ad pivot after you say you think I want to sue this guy?

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He wanted to settle for nothing.

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He did.

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He did say that.

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Yeah.

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That is weird.

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He literally said, that is weird.

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He literally said, do you think I want to sue this guy who just wants me to say, whoops.

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Yeah.

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I don't want to do that.

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We need your money to fund this lawsuit for no reason with no stakes.

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Zero stakes involved.

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The only stakes involved are this guy created a thing and I misused it.

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I wonder if he misspoke.

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I do wonder that.

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Because you're right.

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Based on his actual language, that is what he's saying.

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I wonder if he misspoke and said, I wanted to settle for nothing.

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No, I think he wanted to settle for nothing.

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Matt Fury?

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Yeah.

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I bet he would just take an apology or just don't do it anymore.

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Yep.

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Something like that.

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I bet he would.

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From everything I've read about him, he seems like a completely sensible guy.

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Because that lawsuit came way before the others.

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Well, the first one was against Cernovich.

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Right.

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Because Cernovich used Pepe on the cover of his book.

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Right.

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Well, that's absolutely-

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That was much more egregious.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Whereas Alex didn't use it in any-

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I mean the other lawsuits against Alex.

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Like the-

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Oh, like the Sandy Hook family?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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That was way earlier than those, right?

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It was, yeah.

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That was just like a-

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Well, no, it wasn't way earlier.

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No.

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But it was a little earlier.

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It was a little bit earlier.

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And it was early to the point where Alex didn't know he was about to get hit with like eight

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other lawsuits.

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Right.

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So he would have been like, if he had known that there were going to be eight other lawsuits,

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he would have been like, yeah, I'll settle for free, fuck off.

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That's great.

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Well, it was-

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I'll say it.

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Yeah, oops.

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Sorry for using Pepe the Frog.

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Anyways, it's just a fucking frog character moving on.

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It was earlier than these other lawsuits, but it was later than like Elephantis and

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Hamdi Ulukaya, which were in the middle of last year.

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So like, it's sort of like, you know what, the fucking entire modern history of Alex

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Jones is just jumping from lawsuits and then just making apologies and like, he's the dukes

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of hazard of not having to pay like settlements.

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Settlements, yeah.

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It's crazy.

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He jumps the General Lee over libel lawsuits.

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Well, he gets by on the kindness of strangers, I don't know what musical that's from.

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Like he survives only at the whim of people who don't want to crush him.

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Yeah.

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Like Hamdi Ulukaya could have owned Infowars probably.

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God damn it Hamdi, now you're, we loved you and now you're vicariously your enemy.

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I still think-

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I find him to be, look-

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I still think that choice even is an admirable choice.

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I understand that.

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Because there's no reason to be vindictive about it based on the, because Alex did, he

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did make a video apology about it.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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Here's my view on that.

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And this is something that I didn't really learn until a couple of nights ago when my

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girlfriend was watching-

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You're about doing some ninja moves, like hand gestures right now.

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She was watching the latest season of The Walking Dead.

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And at the end of it, What's This Fuck doesn't kill the other fucking guy.

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Don't fucking know.

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After there's been a whole fucking fight.

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Seen like four episodes of that shit.

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No, but like 50 people have died.

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But then it's just like the one guy and the other guy and it's like, ah, and I'm going

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to kill you.

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And then he doesn't kill him.

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And he's like, you're going to be an example.

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And the whole time I'm sitting there like, oh, you should have just fucking killed that

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guy.

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And then you'd have been fine.

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Well, yeah.

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In zombie situations for sure.

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Like what is Alex Jones, but a zombie situation?

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You just got it.

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Look, look, I get it.

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I'm all for it.

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We got to build a better world, but don't build a better world with this guy.

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We got other guys to be like, oh look, this is the guy who we show mercy on.

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But some guys you just got to fucking get them rid of them.

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I sincerely believe that we live in a society that has room for Alex Jones.

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I don't think that we live in such a terrible place.

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That's what the walking dead people thought about that one fucking guy and now they're

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all fucked.

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Well, look dude, dude, that's my analysis of the walking dead.

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That's what they thought about that one fucking guy.

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And now now look where they are.

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And the reason I had to respond to that with look dude is because I have not watched any

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of that.

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I haven't watched it either.

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I saw one episode, I saw the first season and I was like, nah, not interested.

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I'm sure it's great.

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I thought it was actually good, but I just didn't care.

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Her thoughts were, as she was, I hadn't watched any of the seasons.

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I watched like the last episode.

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So unimportant.

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I know, I know.

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But her point of view was like, oh yeah, no, this was really good.

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The last six seasons have been really boring though.

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So I think that kind of clears it up.

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That's how I felt about the real world road rules challenge when I stopped watching any

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of them.

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But the reason that I think society can contain something like an Alex Jones force, it's just

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that it requires everyone else to be aware, like unaware and healthy society can contain

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Alex Jones because people read stuff and they're like, eh, look at that asshole.

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But in a society that's already kind of rotting or there's a cancer within that society already,

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their defenses aren't going to be there to fight back or to mitigate the damage that

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an Alex Jones can do.

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So right now we're living in a cancerous, awful society and Alex Jones is exploiting

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so much of that because he's on the cancer side and that's not saying that Trump is the

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cancer, but it's bigger picture.

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He's representative.

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He's the avatar of the cancer.

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He's carcinogenic for sure, but there's a bigger picture to it.

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So in a proper, everything going well, our society could happily flourish with Alex Jones

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doing his crazy fun bullshit and we could all laugh at it and have fun.

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But unfortunately we live in a time where it's like, oh no, we don't have the immune

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system to fight back against this and it sucks.

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But just because we don't have the immune system to fight back against it doesn't mean

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that he's any different.

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You know what I'm saying?

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That doesn't change the rules and that now that we're more susceptible to it and the

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damage is worse because of what he's doing.

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That doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to do what he's doing right now.

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I see what you're saying now.

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Some of the things are legally actionable counterargument.

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We could handle somebody like Alex Jones.

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That's all I've been saying.

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Exactly.

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Not exactly.

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Jones.

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Exactly.

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That's my point.

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If we can handle somebody like Alex Jones, but maybe not the extent to which Alex Jones

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is, maybe we take the Alex Jones to which the extent Alex Jones is and put his fucking

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head on a pike.

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And then the other Alex Jones is that we can deal with, we don't got to worry about him

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so much because they can see that guy with his head on a fucking pike.

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That's all I'm saying.

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Cut off his balls?

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I want to cut off his balls so bad.

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Oh boy.

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Oh, so bad.

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I would make a whole weekend out of it.

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We would have a thing.

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There would be a bat mitzvah.

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It would be fantastic.

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Novelty menu.

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Oh God.

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So good.

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Special cocktail.

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It would be a destination wedding.

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Right.

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So I don't know.

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I don't know how I feel about that, but.

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You wouldn't enjoy our nuptials?

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In this, what, you and Alex's balls getting married, I would not enjoy that.

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I think you can do better.

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Okay.

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Fair enough.

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So in this next clip, Jordan, Alex, he likes to talk all the time about all these libtard

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cucks.

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They're all triggered.

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Oh, with their triggers.

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They're all triggered by things.

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Oh, we're all getting so angry whenever somebody accuses us of sexual assault that we definitely

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didn't commit.

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We all get so angry all the time and we definitely just freak out all the time in front of a

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public hearing.

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And that's crazy for all of us libtard cucks, right?

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That sounds like you're describing Kavanaugh as being triggered.

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Oh.

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In that circumstance.

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Oh, is that what I'm doing?

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That's interesting because that's not what this is about.

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Oh, it's not.

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This is about Alex being triggered by having to watch that.

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Which I would argue.

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Do they not even know what, oh my God.

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Which I would argue makes you a little soy boy snowflake.

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Listen, that wasn't an act last week when I blew up on air about watching Kavanaugh

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being accused.

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I can't watch these hearings now and I'm not feeling sorry for myself.

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I've been falsely accused so much that at a certain point I can't watch these people

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anymore because I want to get very aggressive.

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So you've been called liars so much and we know they're liars and I'm sick of everyone

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bending over backwards.

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If you're a Democrat and you say something, I don't believe the sky's blue if you said

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it was because you're a pack of trash.

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You're a known group of liars like the devil.

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Ooh, triggered baby.

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I don't know what to do with that.

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There's nothing to do with that.

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There's nothing to do with that.

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No, no, no.

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I mean.

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Just enjoy it.

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Let it wash over you and scoff at it.

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That's what you do with it.

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No, I mean, I just don't know how to deal with that in any sense other than for him

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to say like, if you're a Democrat and you say anything, I can't believe you.

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Right.

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Then for me, the only reaction is, well, if that's what you think, then if you say anything,

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I can't believe you.

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Right.

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It's like a two way street.

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Yeah.

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There's no way for us to communicate if your immediate position first is nothing you say

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is meaningful and everything you say is a lie.

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What do I say to that?

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You know?

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Nothing.

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Right?

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Like you just goodbye.

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Right.

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He's cut off any possibility for like communication basically.

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Anything you say is bullshit.

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Right.

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Okay.

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So I say goodbye.

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Bid you adieu.

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Fuck off.

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Have fun over there.

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I've been falsely accused by so many women.

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It's crazy how many women, a long laundry list of women who have falsely, falsely accused

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me of so many women, like roughly four to 500 women have falsely, definitely not any

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of them being correct, 100% all of them being false.

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So Jordan, I think that Alex has made a lot of like legitimately, I'm making a chopping

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motion here.

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You are?

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Legitimately actionable claims in this episode against Dr. Blasey Ford.

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Agreed.

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He has said like not vague things, but actual statements.

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She's running a mind control CIA DARPA funded operation.

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Along with her family.

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Well, the family may or may not be involved, but yeah, absolutely.

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So like this is not okay.

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It's not fine.

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So it makes it so fucking pathetic that he says this towards the end of the episode.

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You know, I don't want to go on air and say that Christine Blasey Ford is a CIA mind control

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operative.

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You did.

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And she works in a DARPA program and publishes articles on brainwashing, on planning false

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memories, on creating classical Manchurian candidates.

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It's not just like she's in some program that's connected to that.

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I don't want to see this thing that I see, and the grandpa and the daddy and the brother.

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And it's like, it never ends with these people.

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It's all these idiots go, I bet Jones is in some intelligence agency or something.

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I would be embarrassed to be in some intelligence agency at this point.

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My dad is.

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I've had family in the military and was assigned to stuff like that.

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And they said the new world order, the world government's evil.

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It's anti family.

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It's anti God.

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It's anti Christian stand against it.

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Isn't it funny how you parodied exactly that clip earlier in the show?

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It's weird.

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Isn't it fucking weird that you were like, yeah, they were in there, but they were the

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good ones.

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They were the crazy ones.

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Yep.

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It's funny how jokes can imitate propaganda and propaganda can imitate jokes.

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It's it's it's like a little disgusting on some level.

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It's kind of a bummer that no matter how full disclosure, I do a bit about this, but it's

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like, no matter how far you try and parody this, it doesn't go far enough.

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No, no.

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Like the for the hardest you go to be like, oh, look at how crazy these guys are.

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The next day, they're like.

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This is exactly how crazy we are.

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You're like, well, fuck, what am I supposed to do?

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Right.

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It's like people trying to make jokes about the insane clown posse.

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It's like, yeah, make a joke about it.

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I bet they would hear that joke like I'm gonna fucking do that.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Sounds awesome.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The this world, like especially now, it wasn't this way years ago.

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It was a bit more restrained, although as dishonest.

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As dishonest.

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Absolutely.

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I agree.

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The level of self parody, the level of like absurd bullshit, like it and the the like

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it's unrestrained by decorum.

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It's unrestrained by shame.

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It's unrestrained by any of those sort of things that you would think that people would

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keep themselves in check.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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It's impossible to make a joke of like, well, here's what they're gonna do.

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They probably are.

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Yeah.

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It's a 50 percent chance.

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It's a it's a crapshoot.

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I would say it's even higher.

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I would say that by the very act of you making the joke, they make it real just to spite

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you.

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It could be.

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It could be some sort of a Schrodinger's propaganda.

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Yes.

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Like it's it's like this is a weird this is a weird thing for me, somebody who's not old

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enough to have lived through it by like if you watch the late night eras between a Carson

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and then like now.

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Yeah.

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And you're like Carson could tell a joke that was like devastating.

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That was like, what?

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How could you do that?

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And now Jimmy Kimmel could tell a joke that is just like, oh, that's just a that's just

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reality.

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Sure.

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But like the late night host gig is turned from parodying to just like reporting, reporting

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with the soft glazing of humor.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Just like a gentle glaze.

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Is it even better?

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Is it is it more just like reporting the news, but just like the thin veneer of comedy being

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added on it.

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Like, what's the difference between a Brian Stelter reading the news and Jimmy and Johnny

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Carson just being like, and the next thing they want to do is remove kids from their

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parents.

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I honestly think I'm going to give you a contrarian position that I haven't fully thought out,

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but I almost think that that's exactly what we need right now, though, because the sort

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of state of times that we're in is so volatile and awful that if you had somebody who was

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making like really scathing blows, you don't need that in this climate because.

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You don't deserve it.

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What this cold.

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I like this with this climate and I like where this is going or the milk toast.

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People like Jimmy Fallon, who will, you know, rub Trump's hair and be like, oh, fuck, isn't

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this cool?

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And then James Corden having this dumb fucking segments that mean nothing.

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That is what late night should be.

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Just yeah.

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Just he was great on Dr. Who, though.

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James Corden had a couple of great episodes.

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Okay.

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Fantastic.

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I do love Dr. Who.

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Fine.

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But I mean, if you wanted to do like a Whittaker is going to be, if you want to do a scathing

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late night row of hosts, you could do it.

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You could do it easily.

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Yeah.

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In the climate of like comedians, the various voices that are out there, you could do that

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very easily.

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You could set up, they would not make you any money.

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All the companies would end up being fucked.

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That's why there aren't those guys.

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That's why there aren't those guys.

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There are plenty of comics who could develop that scathing row, but they're not allowed

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anywhere near these shows.

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Totally.

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Here's what I would say.

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The internet has allowed everybody to just make whatever they want, right?

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So you can just do a late night show if you just rent out a theater for 50 bucks and have

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some decent camera equipment on it, or if you're on Facebook Watch or any of those like

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sort of things, you can do it yourself.

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Is this a soft launch for our Facebook Watch?

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Fuck no.

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But has anybody risen to the ranks of sort of like really scathing criticism that appeals

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to anybody like on a mass level?

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I don't know if they have.

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No.

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There are interesting shows here and there.

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There are interesting people with voices certainly, but not to the level of like, all right, we

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got a demagogue here.

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I don't think that this time deserves that.

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And I also don't think it would work because then that person would be unilaterally attacked

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by all the various propagandists on the right.

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Like Cernovich would accuse them of some sort of fucking crime they didn't commit.

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Alex would say they're drinking children's blood and all of a sudden they get bogged

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down in a lot of bullshit that has nothing to do with the scathing comedy they're trying

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to produce.

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What you're describing is if our show is a late night show.

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I'm not.

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I'm saying that this culture doesn't lend itself to, I mean, even early David Letterman,

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not a late David Letterman, but early David Letterman.

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I hate it when there's a late David Letterman.

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I don't know.

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Early David Letterman would love that joke.

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Late David Letterman?

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Not so much.

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Not a fan.

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I think about this, I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but I think that cultural

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entertainment largely, because I wrestle with this, like the things that are super popular

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I think are largely just intrinsically vapid.

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Like I'm not saying that as some sort of like I'm above it or anything like that.

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You know that I've made it clear that I get sucked into these rabbit holes of watching

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Irish people try things.

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Of course.

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Have you ever seen Irish people try things?

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It's incredible.

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I kind of like a couple of those personalities.

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That leather coat guy is really funny.

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But like there are things like that that have millions of views and I started to look into

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it a little bit more and you have like the PewDiePie videos and stuff like that.

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I watched a couple of them and like I don't understand at all what's going on here.

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Then I realized I didn't even know this like until maybe a couple of weeks ago.

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Like Buzzfeed has a ridiculous YouTube presence.

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Really?

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They have videos that have 15 million views on the reg.

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What?

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Yeah.

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Are we old?

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Did we just get old?

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Yeah.

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Did we just get old at this moment right now?

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It's insane to me.

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Buzzfeed has millions and millions, wow.

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Individual videos that have millions and millions of views.

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That's crazy.

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Right.

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It's insane.

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And so I got sucked down a wormhole of watching these videos because I would watch one and

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it would be like there's one series that they have where these two guys go and they try

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things at different price points.

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It's called Worth It.

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So the two of them go to three restaurants, one's really cheap, one's in the middle, one's

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super expensive.

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Right.

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And then they decide which one is the best at its price point.

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Right.

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And then at the end of it they have to supermarket sweep it and they have to fill their cart

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with the most...

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The premise is on its face a pretty interesting premise.

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I guess.

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It's good editing, it's something that has a good presentational value.

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You get to see three different restaurants, which is what all those like food TV shows

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are really about.

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Yeah.

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Like Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives wasn't about Guy Fieri or anything like that.

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It was about these fun restaurants that you could imagine yourself in.

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Right.

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That's what all that stuff is about.

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So you get to watch like, oh, that's cool.

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And then you also get to project yourself into their seat because who are they but 20

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old things who have a good job being gifted this position at this restaurant because of

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their job.

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That could be you if you had that job.

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You can project yourself there a little bit and it's kind of fun.

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And then oftentimes it's not the most expensive place that's the most...

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A lot of the times they go to all of them and then they validate that the cheapest place

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is actually the best.

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So I started watching some of these videos and I didn't give a fuck about any of them,

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but I liked one of the guys in it.

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One of the guys in it seemed to have a really good comedic sensibility and like, I enjoy

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this.

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Then I accidentally started watching other Buzzfeed videos that he was in.

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Oh no.

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Right?

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So I started watching all, like I ended up down this like rabbit hole of following him.

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By the way, it's Andrew from the, it's Steven and Andrew are the two guys on Unworth It.

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No idea.

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Steven seems fine.

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I don't know.

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He's too excitable.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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You just described me.

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Anyways, continue.

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I don't have the frosted tips.

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I don't have...

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Oh, he's got frosted tips?

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He's an Asian dude with frosted tips.

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What year is it?

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I also don't dislike her.

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But look, so I started, I watched other videos and I kept finding myself watching these like

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three minute videos about whatever.

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And I don't, I didn't enjoy them.

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I didn't enjoy them at all, but I kept watching them and I didn't realize what was going on

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until the other night.

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I was sitting there and I'm like, I'm going to watch one more.

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And then it was so disappointing as I watched it because it was just like, this is just

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people doing something boring and commenting on it, but I want more, I want more.

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So I'm like, one more, one more.

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They'll do the next one.

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They'll get it the next time.

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And I clicked the next one.

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And then an hour later I had just repeated that process over and over again.

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And I realized along the way, all of these videos that I'd been watching had over 7 million

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views each.

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There are tons of people, I think much like me, who could end up, they end up getting

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caught in this cycle without realizing it of like, this is slightly charming.

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I want something better.

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You guys can do better.

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And then the none of them can do better.

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I think a lot of entertainment is based on that right now.

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I don't know what that means, but I think it has something to do with how bad late night

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is.

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I forgot that was where we were going.

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But the reason that I think it's related to-

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I totally see your point.

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The reason that I think it's related is that like, I think a lot of us these days are craving

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escapism.

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And so these videos of like, I don't fucking know, let's watch these people eat dumplings.

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It somehow seems like a good jump off point.

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And then you're never satisfied and you're looking for a little bit more, a little bit

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more, a little bit more.

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It never comes, but then it's two hours later and you've watched a ton of their shit.

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And I think that people monetize that really well.

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I don't know if that's intentionally a business model, but I think it's fucking super successful.

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I mean, isn't that the, what is it, addictive model of like your candy crush or the like

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there?

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The gamification of addiction.

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It might not be the exact same thing, but it's similar.

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It gives you the small bit of-

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Little charge.

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Yeah.

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It gives you this small bit of serotonin and then you just like, well, now that I've reached

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that base level, I need to keep going for that base level.

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And no matter how far, you're always chasing the dragon.

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I'll say that the Irish people trying stuff are a little bit better because at least I

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actually like a couple of their personalities.

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Like I've watched, at this point from the rabbit holes that I've accidentally dove down,

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I've watched so many of these Buzzfeed videos.

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That's too many.

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And I would say-

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I've watched zero of those Buzzfeed videos and I still think that's too many.

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You don't know about the Try Guys?

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I really feel like I've watched too many of those videos just by hearing you talk about

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them.

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There's only like maybe two or three people in the entire pantheon of the Buzzfeed empire,

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which is wide ranging, that are at all interesting as personalities as depicted in their videos.

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Meanwhile, with the Irish people, I would say it's maybe 40% of them seem pretty cool.

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Dude, have you ever been to Ireland?

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I want to go so bad.

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98% of people are in Ireland.

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I want to go to Ireland and find Blahin?

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Fascinating.

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I want to find Ryan?

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No, no, no.

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Ireland is one of the most fascinating groups of people who hate everyone you will ever

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meet.

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Let's do a show.

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Incredible.

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Let's go to Ireland to do a show so I can find these people.

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Love them.

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And have a fucking uncomfortable conversation.

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I've never been made more uncomfortable by saying hi than in an Irish bar.

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And that person loved me.

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The other Irish bars I've been to, they hated me and I've felt more comfortable than

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when the person was just like, ah.

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And that was it.

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That was it.

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And I was like, oh, I love you too.

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I didn't know how to express it.

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I'm not positive if any of this had anything to do with anything, but I feel like I've

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made a point.

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Anyways, late night.

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Might not be valuable, but I do respect in that last clip Alex saying, I don't want to

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say that Ford is a fucking CIA operative, but he is.

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You can't say that.

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That's not okay.

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Turns out you can.

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So in this next clip, uh, Alex sort of rambles a whole bunch about whether or not he wants

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there to be violence and I'll let you decide where he comes down on the issue.

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Okay.

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So all I'm saying is if the Democrats start rioting and burning cities and they bring

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in a civil emergency, they've said they already won and they're trying to burn up the White

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House.

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It's not martial law.

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If the president calls out the military to protect the White House, it's the military

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protecting us from chai comm globalist funded enemies that have already staged an emergency.

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So I'm saying we better start getting used to the thought of what we're going to do.

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It's like police.

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They have a threat force continuum, a force continuum of you do this, they do that and

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it goes up, up, up, up, up to the point of you pull a gun, they, they, they pull a gun

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and shoot you.

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And so I don't want cops to pull guns and shoot people.

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I don't want to pull guns.

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If Antifa comes to my house, I don't want any of this, but Antifa says they're going

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to come to members of Congress and ISIS house and kill them.

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The, the, the, the members of Congress that have been targeted in ice need to take it

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and expect that they're coming.

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You understand?

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And then when you blow their ass off, they're going to call you a tyrant, call it martial

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law.

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Hey, you're the ones open the door to the bowl, dumbasses.

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I'm not looking for any trouble, but if you're looking for a fight, you came to the right

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place cause I'm not backing down to any of you people.

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That means nothing.

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That was so, uh, scat cat.

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That was MC scat cat.

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One step forward, two steps back.

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That was crazy.

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Hey Alex, um, this is Jordan from Chicago here.

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Uh, the Laquan McDonald trial is, uh, is occurring as we speak.

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Um, so you just said that there should be a standardized action for cops to use force.

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Oh man.

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So the cop should fund the thought.

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If a cop, you know, if you, if I were to use force against you, then the cop would be justified

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in it.

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But what if I weren't, what if there was, what if you're a child, what if there was

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a standardized response where in your, uh, I dunno, a kid and you're walking away from

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a cop and then he fucking murders you.

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Is that, is that okay?

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Is that okay, Alex?

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Should there be standardized rules?

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You know, you know what, I'm starting to think that maybe it only fucking matters whenever

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it's on your team.

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Yep.

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You know, what's super fun about this?

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Like on this episode, we've experienced Alex bending over so far backwards in order to

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justify Kavanaugh's indiscretions, let's say, you know, like he's created this elaborate

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tapestry of bullshit based on Mike Adam's stupid articles just to get away from this

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guy not getting on the Supreme Court when like we've already been very clear, like someone

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else could probably get in cause the Democrats are cowardice as easily that doesn't, we have

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Neil Gorsuch.

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Yeah.

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It's not, it's not some sort of thing where like they're going to create demonic smears

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of anybody.

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No.

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It's really crazy to have a situation like this for such a low stakes bullshit, Alex

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is defending this thing because he has to defend Trump because there's a piece of self-preservation

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that's involved there too.

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When you see things like that with Laquan McDonald or other instances of unarmed black

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people being killed by the cops.

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Murdered.

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He doesn't, he doesn't create fabricated narratives.

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He doesn't even talk about the truth about it.

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He just never covers it.

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Yup.

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Fuck off.

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Yup.

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He sucks.

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Fuck you.

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So we got one more clip, Jordan.

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Yeah.

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And let's do it.

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Let's chase this down.

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This is, this is a punch.

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Let's chase my weird Laquan McDonald nightmare down.

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This is a punchline if there is one.

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I mean the, the, the, the, the people listening now, I told you who listens and who calls

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me and it's all off record, but you know, world leaders, top Fox, top Fox news host,

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lot of members of Congress.

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We had a lot before, but this is like fight club now.

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So you can tell people, your friends and family, Hey, Alex Jones are trying to shut him down

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for a reason.

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It's the guest.

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It's the callers.

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It's the information.

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Learn why the system wants info wars.com shut down.

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Learn what scares them so much.

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The truth.

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I show the clips of sorrows on 60 minutes saying the best time of his life was serving

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Hitler and he made happy time.

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That's a quote.

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And then I show the news saying I'm a liar.

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He never served Hitler.

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I mean, a lot of it's not that fancy.

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It's just, we're willing to tell it like it ish.

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You might've missed it in there, but Alex just broke the first and second rule of fight

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club.

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What's that?

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He advocated that you talk about it, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

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He said that this show is basically fight club.

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So tell your friends, I, what is almost like even in his fictional arguments, the sentence,

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he makes an argument.

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He invalidates that argument.

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I mean, super petty of me to bring up the rules of fight club, but Oh, Dan, Dan, Jordan,

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let's submit this episode if we can, um, white men are great and they will never commit violence

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against women.

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So I think we've solved it.

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And I control not even a problem whenever women aren't allowed to speak, especially

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when they have mind control, they're gifted in mind control.

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This episode has been a lot of bullshit and I think demonstrates simultaneously why I

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hate the present.

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And at the same time, why we kind of got to talk about the present from time to time.

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Look, I'm not, you're not going to get this.

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It's this razor's edge that we end up walking.

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Like it's awful to sit here and listen to Alex Jones say this disrespectful, awful stuff

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about someone who you can hear her speak and, and look at the reality of the situation.

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I'm like, Oh yeah, this, this, well, we can't say because we're not in the court and we

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can't prove this.

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It very clearly is credible.

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Like I don't, I'm not, I wasn't there.

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I can't say it happened, but there is no part of my body or my being that thinks that it

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didn't.

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Right.

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It's, it sucks to hear Alex create this elaborate conspiracy about that situation.

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But at the same time, what other show than ours is going to talk about the idea that

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he has created this conspiracy about it.

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That it's mind control.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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That's, that is a clue.

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No, I know.

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That is a crazy defense.

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I don't think Trump would even try that.

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He's well, we'll see in a week.

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Yeah.

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I was going to say, we've already talked about how parody is non-existent anymore.

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We'll see.

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We'll see if he gets desperate and has to like call for the bench.

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But like this, this to me is like, I don't see anybody talking about this level of complete

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fucked up weirdness, high strangeness without aliens arch arch, it's insane arch.

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So I, I will say at the end of this, I respect my responsibility of having to go into this

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stuff as much as it sucks.

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And we'll check in from time to time in the present, as much as I fucking hate it.

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And I wish we just lived in 2009 because I like learning.

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I didn't learn anything from this except for about the lies, you know, that's fun to learn

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about.

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It is fun.

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On some level.

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I like learning about that.

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Bill Kim, Kimpton.

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I like learning about him.

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He seems like an all right guy.

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He's like a great dude.

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His family.

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Not yet.

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No.

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One of Laura, his daughter.

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Yeah.

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What about her?

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Dude.

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Tell me some shit about Laura.

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She's an amazing artist and actually does a lot of work at Burning Man.

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She uh, she creates these motherfucking trust fund hippies.

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Motherfucking.

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I know.

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All right.

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But she actually, I've looked into it, I read a couple interviews with her and she's created

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these like really interesting art pieces where a lot of it is about the like symbolic destruction

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of it.

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And then the like, the central Burning Man concept of like burning the, but like violent

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destruction of her own artwork, like shooting it, like that sort of thing as a, as like

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a ritual.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That sounds hot.

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One of the, one of the art pieces, I can't remember what the name of it is, but it had

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like a, it was a parody of money, like a two, like two of the S's in the name.

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Which she has a lot of.

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No shit.

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It's hard to take that away from it.

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But if you were born into that, you shouldn't be begrudged having it.

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You should give away a bunch, which she does through the mental insight foundation.

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Let's all get rid of our preconceptions.

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Like, you know, you want to hate rich people and I understand.

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I don't want to.

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I don't mean you, I mean one does.

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I do.

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One does.

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I don't want to.

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Want implies that there's a possibility of the other.

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It's easy to do it, but all rich people aren't evil.

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That's true.

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I don't know.

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I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about anymore.

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Anyways.

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Hamdi Ulukaya.

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We.

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Yogurt man.

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Carried water for you at least thrice.

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And it's about time that you went to the knowledge fight website and clicked the support the

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show button.

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We would love if Chobani sponsored us.

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We're at the point where sponsors should come around.

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No, no.

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I'm going to send him an email.

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I'm straight up.

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Do it.

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Do it.

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I'm buzzed enough right now.

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After we end this, I'm going to send him an email offering a sponsorship.

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Two or three thousand dollars per episode Hamdi.

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Seems too high.

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Way too high.

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We will continue.

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No, how dare you.

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We will continue to say that you aren't a piece of shit.

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That seems like blackmail.

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That's not a good sales pitch.

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No.

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I don't think Jon Hamm pulled that one off in Mad Men.

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Imagine a carousel.

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Imagine every duck that was on that carousel had a bad part of your life on it.

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Imagine wanting not people to see that carousel.

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Kodak.

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That's a bad version of the first episode.

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Was that the bad one?

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No, I want that.

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I want.

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Look, we're going to edit out a lot of this.

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I want that in.

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I want that in.

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We got a website.

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We do.

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Knowledgefight.com.

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If you wanted to follow us on Twitter, it would be at knowledge underscore fight.

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We're also on Facebook.

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We are.

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There's a Facebook group.

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Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.

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It's fun.

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Fun on there.

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Oh, what?

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I'm going to be at the.

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Too late.

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I'm going to be.

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No, no, no.

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I'm going to be at the improv.

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Oh shit.

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Next Thursday.

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God.

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I wish I knew what dates were.

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I'm going to be at the improv in Schomburg next Thursday.

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What's the date of it?

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The eleventh.

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Uh, I'll be at the improv next Thursday, the 11th, I'll be featuring for somebody probably.

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Um, that'd be great.

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Check that out.

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We'll also give a better plug on that next episode.

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I'm trying.

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I'm trying to plug.

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I'm not doing good at it, but uh, that's cool.

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That's cool.

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You know what else?

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We're on iTunes.

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We are.

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iTunes is out there.

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Please subscribe.

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Uh, leave a review on iTunes.

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Helps people find us.

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Please leave a review on Facebook too.

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It does something.

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I don't fucking know.

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I have no idea.

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None of us have any clue.

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It's all about organic growth because we got nothing.

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We're just really super happy people keep finding the show.

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We have no idea how to make this show bigger, but thank you for being, making it bigger.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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So now we come to the end of this and I will say that Dr. Blasey Ford's mind control work.

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Say one thing about it.

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What about it?

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I've never killed anybody.

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Has anybody?

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I know one guy who probably did.

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Who?

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Alex Jones.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.