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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes, I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Indeed we are, Dan. Dan?

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Hello sir.

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Dan.

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How do you do?

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Uh, as a very polite person, which I know you to be.

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Mhm.

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Uh...

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Yes sir.

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If you were at a, uh, uh, let's just call it like a regular party.

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Like one of those, one of those parties, not like a dinner party, but one of those...

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Like a debutante ball?

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No, not like a debutante ball, because you, my friend, have already been displayed, and you are fantastic.

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Thank you very much.

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You know, now who's polite?

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Now who's polite?

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Uh, so you're talking about like maybe a gender reveal party?

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I, maybe a gender reveal party.

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I was thinking specifically, baby shower.

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Baby shower, alright.

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Now, you're at a baby shower.

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Alright.

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And the mother-to-be, uh, you don't know the gender yet.

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No.

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This part, the second party has not happened.

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Uh-uh.

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She asks you, what should my, uh, fetus, uh, eventually listen to?

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Right.

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And could you describe whether or not, or perhaps the relative knowledge of Alex Jones that these people might have?

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I would say that by the time this show will be appropriate to your coming baby, the world will be long over.

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And so, it is irrelevant.

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However, if your child is taken up by the aliens, much like, uh, the children at the end of that Nicolas Cage movie.

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What was that?

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What?

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What was it?

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What?

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Oh, no, that wasn't Nicolas Cage.

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It was, it should have been Nicolas Cage.

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What do you mean it should have been Nicolas Cage?

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It was the John Cusack movie 2012.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That should have been a Nicolas Cage movie.

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That should have been a Nicolas Cage movie.

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And it ends with the two children being taken up by the aliens, uh, to-

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Is that how that movie ended?

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To repopulate the new planet.

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Yeah, that's how it ends.

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Spoiler alert.

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Spoiler alert for 2012.

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I thought that the world was ending.

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It is.

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And that's why they needed to see the deployment.

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So, wait, then there are aliens?

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Yeah, the aliens come down at the end.

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Just at the end, there's just a random out of the blue alien.

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Let me be clear.

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Yes.

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I might be conflating two movies.

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My point is-

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Isn't this a C.S. Lewis novel?

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Never mind.

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Certainly not.

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Um, my point is, if your child is one of those children, then maybe there will be archives that the aliens, uh, have aboard the ship.

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And they can listen back to what was happening in the culture back in 2018.

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Right.

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And they can find this podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones.

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But little-

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I don't know anything about Alex Jones.

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Little about movies.

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That is a torturous, uh, way to listen to this show.

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So, uh, Jordan-

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Although, now I kind of feel like, thanks aliens.

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Yeah.

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I'm glad that we made the cut.

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I'd like to thank the aliens, but also I'd like to thank a couple of our new donors.

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It's been a while since we've recorded. This is a delight.

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Yeah, it's great.

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And I'm on an empty stomach, so-

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So, let's ride this out.

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Maybe it turns out I should always broadcast on an empty stomach.

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Entirely possible.

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Uh, so, I'd like to give a, uh, uh, shout-out and a thank you to-

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Uh-oh.

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Looks like in my soundbo-

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Oh, wait, there it is. Never mind.

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I thought I had lost our policy wonk soundbites.

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Oh, no!

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I have not.

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Okay, good.

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And so, I'd like to give a shout-out to a couple new donors.

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First of all, I'd like to say thank you so much for joining up with the team, Destin.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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We appreciate it so much.

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Yes, thank you very much for joining!

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Uh, we, uh, appreciate it. Also, I'd like to say, uh, thank you very much to someone who came in at a little bit of a higher level of donation.

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Okay.

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I'd like to say thank you very much to, uh, Michael. You are officially a globalist.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark!

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Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah.

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Thank you so much, Michael.

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Thank you very much, Michael.

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If you'd like to become a policy wonk yourself, you can go to our website, KnowledgeFight.com, and click the Sport the Show button.

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We would appreciate it. It means a lot, and we're getting really dangerously close to the point where, um, I can live freely.

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Yes! Yes!

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Um, and that's nice. It's really appreciated.

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Yeah.

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I support it.

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I've got a lot of, I've got a lot of big work, uh, in the oven, let's say.

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A lot of cooking in the oven of things that everyone is going to really enjoy, but it's very work intensive and it may take a while.

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Um, and so when this info baby is born, um.

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Boy, I don't like any of the words that you just used.

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I'm very hungry.

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I'm cooking in the oven.

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Right.

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And there's an info baby coming out.

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I don't know.

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Uh-uh, uh-uh. I'm out.

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Mixing metaphors across the board.

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Um, but I appreciate it.

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Well, this is a baby shower.

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Absolutely. Mazel tov.

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Um, so, we have a Facebook group, Jordan.

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It's called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.

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It is.

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A lot of folks get together and sometimes bicker a little bit in a fun way.

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Sometimes post Daddy Shark memes.

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Never a bad idea.

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It's a delightful time.

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But, in the group I was noticing a little bit of a trend, and that is that a couple people had commented that we have not talked about the present day in a long time.

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We have not talked about the present day in a long time.

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We've talked a lot about 2009 because I'm doing a bit of work on digging into the beginning of the Tea Party, of course.

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Um, and then we introduced Jim Bakker into our fold.

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That fucking guy.

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Uh, rave reviews on the Jim Bakker episode. People seem to love us including him, so we'll revisit that in the future.

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Oh, us including him in our show.

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Yes.

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Not us including him.

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Yes, yes.

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People love us including him.

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People like that we are talking about him.

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Yes, gotcha.

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And I found an amazing episode that'll be coming soon of him.

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Ooh.

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It's utter lunacy.

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Okay.

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But, uh, you know.

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Does it take place entirely at the general store?

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I wish. I wish it did.

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There is a general store commercial, though.

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Lot of action.

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Lot of action at that general store.

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Lot of action at that general store.

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So, um, I admit and I accept the criticism that we've been derelict in our duty somewhat of covering the present day Alex Jones.

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And that's true and some of it is escapism on our part, but I contend also that most of the stuff he's saying is stupid and, uh, distractionary.

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It doesn't mean anything. He's just yelling into the ether.

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Um, and, uh, I don't want to cover it. It's not that it bums me out. I just think if I watch it, it makes for a boring show.

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Right.

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Like, you and I, I'm not saying that we're better than anybody else, but I think that our skills and what we can bring to the table is not best used in terms of, like, just doing an entire episode about him screaming about something.

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Right.

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We have done a couple of those in the past when they have come up and, lord knows, they're fairly fun, but-

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They can be.

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Ultimately, it's so much candy. You know, there's no nutritional value to it and we're just, uh, what's going on?

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I'm just, I'm just, you're-

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You're staring at me.

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You're, you're giving people health advice while at the same time you're bringing out info babies, you're cooking in the oven, Dan.

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Right.

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You're trying to locale us. What's going on here?

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I don't know. I don't know. So, uh, just to, just to cover a couple things that we're not really going to be talking about, um, and I'm sure, I'm sure you want to talk about this a little bit.

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Do I?

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The, uh, New York 14 race. Uh, the, uh-

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Oh, Alexandria, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Do you have any thoughts about that?

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Uh, awesome.

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I, I was like-

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I expected more.

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I, what do you mean? What do you want from me? I hope she would win. Uh, she's amazing. She is doing everything right. She's got all the right positions.

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And, uh, the only, uh, the only observation you can take away from her, uh, brilliant and inspiring campaign is that, uh, Nancy Pelosi should fucking go.

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She should be shook.

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She should be gone. She should just quit. Like the moment she won that race, Nancy Pelosi should have been like, oh, I'm old. I forgot that I am 8 million years older than Alexandria. Okay.

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Now, now, I mean, not to take anything away from her because it's an amazing win and I hope it's, uh, a harbinger of things to come.

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But, um, you know, it is a super liberal district and, and all that. So there's reasons why a lot of people could underplay things and, and have a pretty decent, uh, argument to make.

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But I don't want to talk about anything to do with that. Alex Jones's approach to it has been, um, that this, uh, primary campaign-

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Coming encroachment of communism.

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Absolutely.

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Which is what the Russians don't want anymore because of God or whatever.

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Well, no, the Russians don't really come into play as much. Um, but he, he's posted a number of videos about how this is like going to bring about civil war, uh, and that it's-

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Fine. I'm cool with that.

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Though she is a democratic socialist, uh, he is saying, he's putting out these videos, and a lot of people, I believe, in our group misunderstand this, uh, fundamental piece of Alex's cosmology, so I feel like it might be a good opportunity to explain it.

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Um, he's arguing that this is communism, uh, run amok, uh, though this is democratic socialism.

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Of course.

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And the reason for that dates back to his beliefs that come from none dare call it conspiracy, the John Birch Society folk, uh-

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Socialism leads to communism.

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Exactly.

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Socialism is the-

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That makes perfect sense.

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Soft sell for the people, uh, to lead into communism because you're like, all this free stuff you're going to get with socialism.

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Right.

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Um, and then, uh, before you know it, it's communism, which is really totalitarianism in disguise.

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Yeah.

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Um, and it's all run by corporate interests.

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Which is a classic argument I think they brought about, uh, especially in the 30s, like immediately following the stock market crash, they were like, we hate the Russians, they're communist.

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Mm-hmm.

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We realize that everybody is on board with socialism and railroad barons are still a thing, so we can't be having that.

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Right.

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So how do we make it so that all this works out?

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Well, socialism, it's got an ism at the end of that, sounds like communism, done.

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Yeah.

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One to one, call it a game.

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Mm-hmm.

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We're out of here.

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If you, if you look at where a lot of these beliefs come from, uh, most of it comes from, uh, rampant, uh, anti-communist fear propaganda.

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Yep.

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That was around, uh, years and years ago.

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And then, uh, and to this day, uh, and then also just from flimsy, ahistorical, uh, things like none dare call it conspiracy.

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Yeah.

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Um, and, and I, I promise I'll do a much better job of, uh, explaining all of what's wrong with none dare call it conspiracy in the near future, uh, but if we were to do it right now, we'd be here for six hours.

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Right.

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So we're not going to do that, uh, that all is coming.

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And it's just important to note that most anti-socialism propaganda comes from the people who are threatened most by it, the rich people.

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There you go.

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Absolutely.

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The, uh, the people who are best served by these narratives are the people who, um, want to retain corporatism.

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Who would have guessed?

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And capital, uh, oppression and exploitation.

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Hey, it's good that the Koch brothers control the system.

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Um, so my, my biggest point that I wanted to make with that is that people who are saying that like, Hey, isn't it stupid? He's just calling this communism.

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Yes, it is stupid, but there's a reason for it.

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And it comes back to that piece of his worldview.

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And I don't really predict, I watched the video and I don't particularly want to go over that.

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So we're not talking about that today.

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And not because I don't.

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Oh, he did a special report.

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Yeah, he did.

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Well, I think it was just like a half hour of his show that he released as a, uh, like a bonus.

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Standalone.

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Uh, uh, emergency report, um, I just don't find it all that interesting.

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And I don't, I don't know.

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I mean, it's just fear.

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It's just fear being repackaged, which I guess is our entire show.

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Fair.

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But, um, uh, he put out a special report on Saturday, um, which is yesterday as we're recording this on Sunday, uh, where he said that, uh, the globalists have announced that this 4th of July is the last 4th of July.

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Okay, now I'm in.

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Yeah.

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Why?

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I don't know.

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He just wants to sell stuff.

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Independence Day?

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Yeah.

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There's an Independence Day sale.

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Where is, where is, where is Bill Pullman when you need him?

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See, he put out an 11 minute video and I really thought it was going to be his Bill Pullman speech.

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Right.

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It has to be the Bill Pullman speech.

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Low Energy Alex came into the studio to do this special report.

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Disappointing.

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And he's just like, this will be, uh, the beginning of 1776 2.0.

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I thought it began like two years ago.

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Yeah, didn't that happen way back when?

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He was redoing all this stuff and be like, we're under attack.

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And then he put out, he put out a, uh, uh, ad on his website.

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That's just, I want you to get 50% off.

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So I was just like, alright.

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These prices I hope aren't too low.

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Yeah.

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July 3rd, a day that will live in infamy when I cut prices too far.

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I don't know.

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I'm trying to repackage historical stuff.

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I don't know.

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Look, the issue that we have here is that like, okay, the, in the real world, we have

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Roger Stone's aides being subpoenaed and being forced to come before a grand jury.

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We have a Roger Stone admitting that he met with a guy about getting dirt from Hillary

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in terms of the Russian guy.

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Yeah.

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Crazy.

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Um, we have, uh, indications that are coming out now that North Korea is actually ramping

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up nuclear testing.

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Of course they were.

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And research was like, come on.

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Trump is a dummy.

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Yeah.

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Why wouldn't you fuck with him?

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So all this stuff.

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And of course, um, the other day we had that, uh, department of Homeland Security, uh, report

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that came out that started with, we must secure.

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And the title was 14 words long.

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Yeah, the 14 words is an interesting, oh no, they're all Nazis.

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We have all this stuff coming, like happening.

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And I think that Alex is realizing, oh, and of course on the 30th we had all these marches

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around the country.

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Uh, and on the 29th too, there was even, even more.

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The 29th to 30th you had all these marches where people were coming together against,

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uh, the family separation policy and how we treat immigrants.

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And that turned into a lot of abolish ICE protests and you know, what have you.

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And so I think Alex is seeing that and he's like, shit.

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And so now there's the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who's won this race in, uh, in New York as

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a democratic socialist and unseated the person who was, everyone keeps saying was in line

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for possible house speaker.

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Which also means giant piece of shit.

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Right.

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But you know, you have this and Alex, he's not that dumb to not see the writing on the

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wall.

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Whereas Trump wants to put up the front of like, Hey, this super powerful Democrat lost

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his primary race.

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Alex is kind of, I mean, he has to realize like, Hey, that was a, that was a fucking

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socialist who beat a very popular entrenched, uh, Democrat that means more to him.

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So I think he's just really scared and he's going to be lashing out and yelling a bunch

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of shit and who cares?

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So I don't care.

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I don't want to talk about it.

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I do.

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Uh, we are going to talk about is the 28th, uh, June 28th.

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We're going to that Thursday episode.

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We're going to be talking about because I think Alex Jones might be trolling me and

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Roger Stone might also be trolling me there.

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Do you, your, your paranoia has reached a level where they're specifically targeting

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you and it's based on this out of context drop.

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Okay.

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Alex, that beard is looking really good.

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No, no, no, no.

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I think I've heard about the beard.

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I have studiously avoided looking at it.

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It looks like shit.

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I'm not allowed to look at the beard.

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It looks atrocious.

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I know nothing about Alex Jones.

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It's, I assume it looks atrocious.

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It doesn't fit his face.

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It's a, it's gross.

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He looks like a disaster.

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I believe he's been referred to as chubby Wolverine dad a couple of times.

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That's not bad.

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Uh, it's just a, it's a mess.

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And I think that the two of them have done enough background research on me to know that

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I have very strong opinions about beards.

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You do have a lot of beards.

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And so now they're pretending that, uh, ha ha, this is a great beard.

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No, it's not.

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You're trying to trigger me.

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Either that or it's Roger Stone living his best life and he loves Alex looking like shit.

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It's Roger Stone trolling Alex is what it is.

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At the end of the day, there's one thing we can be sure of.

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If Roger Stone is doing anything, it is making fun of Alex in the most obtuse way possible.

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Perhaps.

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So this Thursday episode, it's pretty interesting.

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There's one sort of main line that goes throughout it.

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And then we get a weirdo guest, uh, and, uh, some bullshit along the way.

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So let's just dive in.

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Here is what I would say is Alex's, uh, main thrust on the Thursday show.

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This is the game he wants to play.

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Um, and as the thread that runs throughout, uh, the first, uh, bit of the show.

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Here's the bottom line.

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Um, we have the globalist in total connection fits, uh, over the justice leaving.

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And of course it was Roger Stone telling you that he would be leaving when they released

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these final group of rulings.

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They just did yesterday.

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He's retiring, giving the left this, the biggest fits of fear they've had yet.

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We're going to be going through some of that, but here's the deal.

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Roger's getting on airplane right now.

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He's off in three hours, but I talked to him right before he took off.

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And I remember what he and others told me back when president was just president elect.

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Uh, and then when the vacancy came up about who Trump's main pick was, but then they came

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to the president and they said, sir, but you promised to go with the most conservative

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judge.

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We've got a computer program that's going to decide that.

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So he said, okay, in round one, we'll go with the computer pitch and round two, we're picking

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somebody else and I know who it is.

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So I know the current pick is right now.

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Who is it?

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Well, you know what he wants to do first?

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

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It is not, uh, but he wants to tease it out.

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Alex Jones knows who the next Supreme Court justice is going to be.

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That's not good.

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Well, it's also probably not true, but who do you think he's talking about?

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Boy, I remember reading through the oldest-

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Judge Jeanine?

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The judge Jeanine Pirro?

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Yeah.

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No.

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Is it really going to be her?

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No, no.

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Okay.

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I read through the list that he originally put out instead of Neil Gorsuch.

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There was the whole, like, 17 possible ones.

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Sure, sure.

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Uh, that's a murderer's row of awful.

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Omarosa!

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Uh, I actually would, I wouldn't mind Omarosa.

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I think you have to be an actual judge.

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I don't think you do.

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You have to at least pass the bar, I'm sure.

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I really don't think you do.

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I think there are requirements.

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I'm pretty sure there aren't.

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Yeah, might not be.

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Wasn't Garfield both Supreme Court justice and president at the same time?

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I still bet he passed the bar.

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I bet he couldn't read.

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That was a time before the Gutenberg Bible.

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Requirements are merely suggestions, my friend.

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Exactly.

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In this fucking administration, sir, you are correct.

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Um, so, no other thoughts, no other ideas?

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Uh, Dave.

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From IT?

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Yeah.

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Our villain Dave from IT who hasn't shown his face in a long time?

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Our friend Dave from IT.

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Um, I don't know.

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No.

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It's, uh, Dave is not in play.

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Okay.

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But, uh, before he gets to telling who it is, he's gonna tease it out.

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You gotta keep, uh, people entertained.

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Um, and so he gets to this, which, uh, is, uh, interesting, uh, just a, you know, a sort

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of standard thing that Alex says all the time.

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And I read dozens and dozens of other books, hundreds of other magazine articles from foreign

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affairs and others who thought you were so stupid, who thought I was so stupid, that

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they would have their own admitted world government plan going on in plain view.

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But then if we criticize it, have ABC, CBS, NBC, and then later CNN, MSNBC say we were

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crazy.

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You're crazy.

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Oh, I don't want Obamacare.

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It's a ripoff.

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You're racist.

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I don't like the fellow who's there being private and being above the law.

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You're anti-Semitic.

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These are the talking points that they used for decades on everybody, like Ron Paul and

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myself.

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I got bad news, man.

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The reason that people think Ron Paul is racist is because of that fucking newsletter he put

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out.

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It's probably because of all the racist things that he said.

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It's probably because of that super racist newsletter.

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That racist newsletter does point to bad things.

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That he claims he didn't write, but, uh, you know, was written in the first person and

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was called the Ron Paul Report.

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If we had a magic racist ball, it would say signs point to yes.

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Yeah.

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No shit.

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Um, so there's that.

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Yeah.

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Bad example for him to bring up.

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And then also, if you want to say that that's the talking point, I would say that this is

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your talking point.

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Because I don't-

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That's the talking point!

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I have never accused him of being racist because he doesn't like Obamacare.

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I would say that might be a piece of why he doesn't like Obamacare, but my arguments are

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much deeper than that in terms of what makes him racist, which we've gone over ad nauseam.

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Right.

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Right.

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What makes him antisemitic is the reliance on antisemitic tropes and the idea that he

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still believes these archaic versions of antisemitism and applies them to the modern day.

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It has nothing to do with his idea about the Federal Reserve being a privately run organization.

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That is a canard.

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He's using straw men to get himself off the hook of racism and antisemitism accusations.

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Right.

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Right.

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It's just boring.

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It's just boring.

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I hate the modern day.

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It's just- I mean, because so much of it is, I say this, they say I'm going to say this,

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I didn't say that, they said that, this is what they said, I said this.

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Right.

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It's too much-

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It's bickering.

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It's dancing.

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He's bickering as a radio show.

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He's bickering as himself.

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Yeah.

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He's bickering with himself.

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He has a lot of arguments against himself to respond to, which is fun.

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Right.

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I mean-

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But even in Cheers in season seven, they got together.

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You can only bicker for so long before you got to fuck.

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Will they, won't they?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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All I'm saying is if you are going to bicker back and forth with the mainstream media,

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sooner or later, you guys got to come together and figure out a medium ground and then you

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date for a couple of seasons, there's a big wedding, then you break up, you get a divorce,

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but then you get back together, the season finale's incredible.

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Or you could do it like-

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I think I'm just describing Scrubs, isn't that what I'm describing?

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Or you could do it like House, where he and Cuddy get together, but then it might have

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been him having a opioid hallucination.

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See, now that's a great, oh man, what if he just fucked around and had a complete opposite

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day show?

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I think he has been for years.

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No, no, no, no.

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Are you talking about Alex?

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I'm talking about Alex.

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Complete opposite day.

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I think he has.

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No, no, no.

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I mean for him.

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He just said he's read a bunch of stuff.

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That's what I'm saying.

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That's opposite day.

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But one day, one day, he just gives it all away and he's like-

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He's just like, honest?

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I can't read.

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I think Alexandria is the best thing for that district.

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I think she's a harbinger of great things to come from the millennials, which would

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be lovely, except we're all going to die before we can actually solve this bullshit that the

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baby boomers have left us.

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So I think what we should do is stop being paranoid and start really working towards

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a better future, not just for our kids, but for the kids to come after us.

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Yeah.

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And then he ends it with, isn't this what you're really afraid of?

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Lock, rock, and preach.

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Exactly.

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Call it.

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And we have an Easter sale.

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Well, of course.

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So that's kind of stupid and that's the sort of stuff we see all the time and I don't think

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there's a ton of value in that.

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I think you would actually have to end it with all of these products are marked up to

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the point where the discount isn't even real.

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So this is really just MSRP that you're paying for these.

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The auto-ship discount is bullshit.

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God's honest truth is I'm jealous of Jim Baker.

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Anyway.

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Yeah.

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Like I said, this stuff is kind of like, that is standard Alex and it could happen at any

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point.

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It's not very interesting.

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Right.

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But I think a couple of clips are really one of the big reasons why I decided that this

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episode we got to go over because Alex gets into an allegory that might be a little misguided

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for a number of reasons.

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Is it the story of what happens to the two kids at the end of 2012?

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No, but it is something, no, I have not studied 2012, the movie, but I did study classics

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in college.

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Yes.

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I studied ancient Greek and through that I read a lot of mythology and I will say that

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Alex Jones has not.

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Did they predict 2012 though?

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They didn't.

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Okay.

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And the victory over Hillary, the main minion of the globalists here in North America, the

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keeper of the secrets, the keeper of the corruption and her big foundation.

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Guys, let it go.

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But here's why.

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You got to let them have the allegory, baby.

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Okay.

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Four billion dollars in it being used to pay everybody off to be part of this.

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You could say that beating her in the campaign was one step in the victory.

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You could.

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Or you could say it was the whole step.

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Beating her in the campaign was one step to victory, but just as you in the mythical story

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of her head being severed, that is only the first thing.

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Is this Medusa?

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Forgot her name, but yes.

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You then have to defeat the globalist Kraken with the head.

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So, no, hold on, hold on.

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Okay.

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You know what?

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As much as I know, you know way more and I don't want to embarrass myself.

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So, please.

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Don't judge yet.

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Please do what you do.

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There's a couple more clips to get through and then we will deconstruct what's wrong

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here.

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Okay.

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So, Alex is presenting it as the first thing that needs to be done is cut off Medusa, the

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Gorgon's head.

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Got to cut off her head.

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And then you fight the globalist Kraken, much like in mythology is what Perseus did.

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Now, we'll get to the details on that in a second, but before that, we'll let Alex flesh

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out his ideas.

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But as a symbol of the globalist failure, as a symbol of their media lying that she'd

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be the winner, as the symbol of them saying Hillary must win or the dominoes falling to

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bring down globalism will be complete, archetypally, Trump is now holding up the Gorgon head and

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all the corruption and all the secrets and the entire global network tied into her as

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one of the top managers.

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He now has the Medusan head to take on the Kraken of the global network, the Chicoms,

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the unelected EU, Hollywood, all of it.

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That's why we have to continue to use her and bring her up and show how evil she is

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and bad and how she's a fraud and the corruption she was involved in.

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All of it trail back into the enemy's nest and her head is a blueprint to defeat them.

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Okay.

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I don't like that phrasing at the end there necessarily.

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It seems a lot like maybe Second Amendment people can take care of it, that kind of thing.

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Yeah.

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It has that feel to it and he doesn't say politically.

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Although he does later say that Dan Rather should go fall in a grave politically.

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Okay.

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Well, that's nice.

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He kind of has to say that because of what happened this week with Milo.

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Yeah.

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That nonsense.

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Although I will say that from everything I've been able to tell about that case, I don't

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think that that guy was necessarily inspired by Milo saying, gun down journalists.

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Not to say that Milo is okay or off the hook, but it doesn't appear that that guy seems

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like he had a long standing beef with that paper.

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I don't know.

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Take this as you will, Solon had a whole giant piece about how he was in contact with right

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wing Nazis and that whole thing.

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I don't doubt that at all.

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So yeah, he was definitely that.

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I don't think it was Milo specifically.

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I don't doubt that aspect at all.

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And then you also have these, I don't remember, I think it was on the Huffington Post, they

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put out a piece where they aired a bunch of their hate mail and stuff like that.

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They posted a bunch of things that people had sent them.

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Of course, whether or not this guy was motivated from specific perceived grievance or generalized,

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it doesn't matter.

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It's symptomatic of something that all journalists are having to deal with, which is racist,

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sexist, and anti-Semitic, and just overall violent threats on their existence.

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And that sucks.

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I mean, at the very least, just the concept of it should not be in the mainstream as a

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possibility.

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I agree.

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Like what is permeated throughout by Trump and by Milo and all of this stuff is it's

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open season.

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Right, right.

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Not necessarily, you should do this.

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But they deserve it.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Well, I mean, even the responses a lot of people had to the shooting on the like the

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chans and on Gab, all the responses you'd see be posted were like, good journalists

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should live in fear.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That sort of thing.

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And like, that's a really cancerous mentality.

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Oh, yeah.

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Because even like I think Alex sucks and I think he's one of the biggest problems that

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we have in the public rhetoric and discourse.

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But I don't think people should hurt him.

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Like we I think we've gone out of our way to be very you might you might want to beat

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up.

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But I don't want to beat up.

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You might you might want him to lose his limbs.

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There you go.

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Politically.

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No.

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All right.

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Basically, we've gone off track here a little bit.

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We got to get back to the analogy.

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What's happening, ladies and gentlemen?

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And so Trump now, like Perseus with the head of Medusa, is ready to vanquish the globalist.

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The archetype is true.

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There's one more thing, though.

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Really not using the word archetype, correct?

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If Trump doesn't have the air, he needs a horse.

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If Trump can't get his ideas across, he can't get up in the titans face.

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He's Pegasus and fly.

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And that's why we're in an information war.

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We've got to get Trump on the horse in the sky with the head.

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And we'll win.

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So there is your analogy of Trump and the Gorgon and the cracker.

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Believe me, they are releasing the crack and there's your analogy.

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So, Jordan, I'd like to tell you that's a great summing up of it.

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I'd like to tell you about mythology.

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Oh, tell me about it.

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The story of Perseus slaying Medusa begins with his mother, Dany, being in a situation

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where she was going to be married to Polydectes, who Perseus viewed as a bad man.

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In order to do away with Perseus, because he was what was standing in between the marriage

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that Polydectes wanted to have, he plotted a way to get rid of Perseus.

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His plan was to throw a party where guests are expected to bring a specific gift.

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In this case, he chose a horse to honor Hippodamia, the goddess of horse managing.

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He did this because he knew that Perseus didn't have a horse.

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Since that was the case, Perseus offered Polydectes an option to name a gift.

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In an attempt to get rid of him, Polydectes chose the head of Medusa, knowing that that

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would probably get Perseus killed.

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As Perseus was the half-son of Zeus, he got some help from the gods in terms of gear.

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He got the Helm of Invisibility from Hades, he got flying shoes, and shit like that.

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There was a montage.

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It was great.

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It was so good.

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He went to each place.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, it was fantastic.

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So with all that gear in tow, he went off and killed Medusa as she slept.

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He returned with Medusa's head.

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Like a hero.

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I mean, based on the story, yes, but I mean, if you look at it contextually, it's not great.

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He heroically murdered her while she slept.

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He, if I remember her backstory as well correctly, she was fucked over.

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And then, okay, I'm sorry, I'm getting ahead of ourselves.

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So he returned with Medusa's head only to find that Polydectes had made his mother a

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servant, since she would not marry him even with Perseus gone.

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Perseus barged into the banquet hall and yelled, all of our friends don't look, something like

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along those lines.

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Olly olly, oxenfree.

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Basically.

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And he turned everyone there into stone with Medusa's head.

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On his way back, he went ahead and mercy killed Atlas, the guy who has to push the world up

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a hill and then go down.

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See, now that was heroic.

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Well, I think Atlas was also a dick to him, but he felt bad that he had to keep doing

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this up and down thing until he turned into stone.

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Atlas gets a pass.

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Of course he's a dick.

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True.

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How long has he been doing that for?

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It's a bummer.

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Yeah, come on.

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Same with Prometheus.

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He can be an asshole.

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Right, right, right, right.

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His liver pecked out all the time.

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Yeah, come on.

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Give him some credit.

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So along the way he also found Andromeda, who he made his wife, but one thing he didn't

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do was battle a kraken.

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That is because krakens are not part of Greek mythology, but actually they come from 13th

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century Icelandic tales about seaborne monsters.

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Also, it wasn't seen as a mythical creature to the Icelandic people, but instead a real

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living cephalopod.

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Carl Linnaeus even included it in his original taxonomy of biological creatures and in later

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editions took it out.

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It was a giant squid.

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No, it was actually more of a crab-like being in the original form.

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It was a crab-like being?

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I did not know that.

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Yeah.

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It was a giant crab?

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Yep.

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So the kraken stuff is not real to this.

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Actually I would posit that putting some of the finer points of what Hillary did and didn't

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do in the campaign aside, not to paint her as any kind of heroic figure, I would say

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a better comparison for Hillary Clinton and Medusa would be the following.

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Medusa was originally just a human woman minding her own business, and then Poseidon raped

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her in Athena's temple.

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Athena blamed Medusa for that act and turned her hair into snakes and made her face horrifying

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as so as to turn anyone who looked upon her into stone.

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From that point forward, because of something that happened to her, she ceased to be human,

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but instead became a grotesque and hideous symbol.

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You might say that Alex Jones has done that with Hillary Clinton.

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You could say that this is a perfect example of victim blaming?

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Well, Poseidon I guess in this case would be Larry Nichols.

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Metaphorically.

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All right, all right, all right, yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

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The issue is like this stuff that Alex is talking about isn't from mythology, it's from

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that Clash of the Titans movie.

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Yeah, exactly.

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That's exactly what he's talking about.

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The moment he said kraken, I was like, he just wants to hear a-

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Release the kraken!

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Exactly.

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It's not from, like he's talking about archetypes, that movie came out three years ago.

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I was just gonna say, like, I don't remember a fucking kraken.

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I don't remember a kraken.

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I remember the hydra.

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Sure.

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The hydra's great.

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Could you use that?

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I remember a lot of different things from Greek mythology.

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I don't remember a kraken.

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If you use the hydra, you'd have to flip into a different person's story, or like the minotaur,

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but then you'd have to go with Theseus.

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Minotaur would be fun.

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There's other issues with Theseus's stories too.

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This is why Greek mythology is so much better than most other religions.

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It's so good.

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I love, uh-

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It's just random.

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I love mythology.

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I mean, it extends to, like, uh, you know, like, Native American cultures too.

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Like I love, I love mythology, but man, when you take it too seriously, you're dumb.

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And then when you pretend that movies that came out in the 2010s represent actual archetypes

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from mythology, what you're doing is being very stupid.

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Oh yeah.

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And that's what happens when you drop out of junior college and think you're really

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smart.

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I really don't think he's using the word archetypal correctly.

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I think ever.

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He's trying to though.

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I think he's got a 60-40 relationship with the word archetypal.

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No.

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I mean, is batting average?

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Yeah.

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No.

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No, no, no, no.

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The other, the other.

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I think he's got a 40-60.

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Way lower.

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Way lower.

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You think so?

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I've heard him use it-

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10-90.

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I've heard him use it correctly before.

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I beg to differ.

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So, uh, at this point, Alex Jones, uh, is done with his kraken rambling, uh, and again,

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I think that like, that, that he put that out as like a standalone piece also.

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That like rant about the Pegasus and the, oh, the other problem that I have, I forgot

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to even bring this up, uh, is that, uh, the idea that now that he's slayed Medusa and

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has to fight the kraken, he needs Pegasus because Pegasus is what's going to get him

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up and fly him to the place where he needs to be.

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Look, dude, if you go back to Perseus's myth, if he's slayed Medusa, he already has Pegasus.

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Pegasus came out of Medusa, but he killed her.

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That's part of the whole myth.

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It's not like, if you have killed the Gorgon, you are friends with Pegasus.

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Pegasus is how he got back to kill Polydectes.

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I remember in the Disney movie Hercules that, uh, that Pegasus was made by Zeus and Hera

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and they had a great relationship.

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They were a pair of loving parents.

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I don't actually remember this 100% being the case, but if I recall correctly, Pegasus

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is actually the result of the original rape of Poseidon, so it's not actually a really

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great thing.

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You know, the...

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The offspring of Poseidon and, uh, uh, uh, Medusa as it were.

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Right, right, right.

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Um, yeah.

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I think if I was going to grade his paper, uh, one, I'd say you can't have a paragraph

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as a paper.

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That doesn't count.

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Uh, you're going to have to go back and rewrite it.

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I would say I'm not complete.

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At the very least, hamburger essay.

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At the very least, hamburger essay.

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What does that mean?

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I, I, what do you mean you don't know what a hamburger essay is?

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I don't know what a hamburger essay is.

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Did you drop out of junior college?

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No, I graduated from real college.

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No, it's like a basic, you know, intro, all three of your points, three paragraphs supporting

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your argument.

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Oh, so it's like lettuce, burger, tomato.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I've never heard it called that, but I don't know.

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I just assume they're like bare bones essay or something like that.

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Right.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's like a formulaic.

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Exactly.

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I don't know.

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Although that makes me think of the game burger time and it gets me really excited.

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Remember that game?

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It's a great video game.

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Yeah, but it never turned me on.

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It was no Leisure Suit Larry.

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I'd said I was excited.

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I know.

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Run around chasing pickles with salt.

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It's really fun.

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Anyway, at this point, Alex pivots from a historical, a anti-mythological ramblings

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and gets into his favorite villain.

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I mean, almost any evil you investigate, you run into Soros and the UN and the IMF and

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the World Bank, like most of it was in the New Jersey, it was in Bloomberg, that most

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of the workers comp and an ambulance chaser, uh, you know, exploding tire stuff in the

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country is financed by George Soros.

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Most of it.

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And I already knew that.

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What?

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But think about that.

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Think about it.

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Think about it.

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What do you think about that?

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What do I think?

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Why?

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What do you mean?

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I mean, why?

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Is he, is he, does he get a cut?

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Soros just wants, uh, does he just want, sues people to sue?

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Jam up the courts with this bullshit.

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Most, most, most, most, every ambulance, if you've ever seen a commercial that's like,

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have you ever had mesothelioma?

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Dude, have you seen a park bench?

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George Soros.

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Soros.

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Soros.

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Back of the yellow pages back in the day.

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That was all Soros, baby.

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I late night infomercials all of it.

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I should have known.

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And actually I looked into this, he's right.

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He's not.

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Um, so I, I, I was curious about this one.

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Why?

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That's so obviously stupid.

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Just statistically that doesn't make any sense.

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Well, cause I knew.

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He couldn't afford that.

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But he did mention Bloomberg and that means I have a thread to pull.

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That's true.

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I can look into what he's talking about.

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That's true.

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And so the article Alex is reading and talking about is actually probably this opinion piece

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that was on Lou Rockwell's website that cites an RT article.

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But in that article it also mentions the Bloomberg piece.

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But I think Alex just used that to give himself the veneer of credibility because the Bloomberg

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piece does not at all support the assertions that he's making.

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I'll read to you from the Bloomberg article.

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Quote, Soros fund management is pushing into the branch of litigation finance that a few

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hedge funds have entered.

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His family office is bankrolling a company that's creating investment portfolios out

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of lawsuits, according to a May regulatory finding.

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The firm Soros is backing, Mighty Group, bundles cash advances that small shops extend to plaintiffs

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in personal injury suits in return for a cut of future investments.

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Wall Street has been betting for a while on commercial litigation, which provides financing

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of big corporate suits with millions or even billions of dollars at stake.

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Soros is focused on the consumer side, where plaintiffs receive advances of $2,000 on average

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for legal claims typically tied to auto and construction accidents.

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The advances are used to cover personal expenses such as medical bills and rent.

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So while some worry that this sort of thing could increase frivolous lawsuits, that argument

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is made.

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And I don't know necessarily if that's true.

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Certainly there's no data to support that at this point, not necessarily.

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I can't find any studies that reflect that this has led to an increase in frivolous lawsuits.

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One of the important...

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Yeah, that sounds like pure speculation.

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One of the more important things to consider is this.

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Quote, industry proponents say the funding helps people win appropriate payouts instead

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of settling for pennies on the dollar under the pressure of medical bills or missed income

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from work.

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In addition, plaintiffs don't have to pay back the advances if they lose their cases.

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So as opposed to cash advances people could get in these situations, which require collateral

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like cars and houses, this is just a piece of paper.

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If the case goes south, there's nothing that the funding group can reclaim or take away

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from you.

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This sort of thing, I think, while we do need to keep an eye on the idea that frivolous

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lawsuits could go up, this sort of thing is incredibly powerfully helpful to people who

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are in situations where they have a righteous suit against somebody but can't pay their

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medical bills.

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Or let's say it has something to do with their car and their car is totaled.

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They can't get transportation without some sort of help.

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So this group comes in, gives them like $2,000 in order to get by as they proceed through

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this case, then they get their settlement of like $15,000 or whatever, pay back the

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$2,000, and then walk away with a $13,000 that they should have gotten from the settlement

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to begin with, as opposed to settling for like $3,000 and in the meantime, while the

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case is going on, racking up like eight grand in debt or something like that.

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This sort of thing seems like actually a really positive, very helpful thing that Alex is

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presenting as Soros funds all of the ambulance chasing in America, which is horseshit.

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I don't know how, I don't know exactly how I feel about it.

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I feel like it's a good thing and at the same time, I don't know if I like an investment

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bank, bankrolling lawsuits.

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I have no idea how I feel about that.

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That's a situation that I literally have no concept for.

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It's been going on for decades already.

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Yeah.

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Okay, well then fuck yeah.

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It's been going on for decades already, but largely it's been only the avenue of large

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firms and they would only do it with big corporate interests.

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So like big cases where there was a higher stakes reward, because you get a much bigger

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cut of a bigger case.

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Oh, of course.

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So the difference is that Soros is applying it, or at least this group, Mighty Group,

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which he has put some funding into, is applying it to people who don't have tons of resources

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behind them.

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If they do lose their case, then you just got to eat it.

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And so on that, it's one of those things that I agree with you, it seems like there are

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parts of it that I don't know if I feel a hundred percent comfortable with, but the

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bigger piece is like, if done well, this is great.

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That's what I feel about it.

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If done the way it seems like it goes, great.

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Here's how I feel about it.

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I think that it is a good concept that should not have been privatized.

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That's what I think.

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Cause I think ultimately this is like, yeah, this is ultimately a pro-labor kind of situation

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more or less.

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Yeah.

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And, or, or, or a pro, a pro worker, pro individual, exactly.

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So they should absolutely be allowed to, because if you're fighting up against a multi-billion

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dollar corporation and you can't afford food, you're much more likely to settle and they're

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much more likely to get away with their terrible actions.

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And they consider that in their calculus.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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No, they, they put that into their fucking budget at the end of the day.

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They've got like a, we're going to set this aside for all the evil shit that we did, you

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know?

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Like that kind of thing.

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So yes, I'm all for this.

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And at the same time, I don't like there being like an investment firm.

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I just don't like the words investment firm.

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I don't know.

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I don't know what, I don't know how to feel about this.

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It's got a bad taste in our mouths.

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It's understandable, but I don't know.

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I don't think, I don't know.

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I don't, I don't.

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I feel like all we're doing is saying like, eh, eh.

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I would need to look at, yeah, I would need to look at, I would need to look into this

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way more to figure out whether or not I am okay with it.

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I feel like I'm okay.

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And I don't, this is confusing.

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To put a ribbon around this, a little button on the end, I would say, uh, sounds good.

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Who knows?

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Exactly.

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Also, not what Alex is saying.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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So that's the more important piece.

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Right.

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Yes.

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Alex is fucking lying.

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Yeah.

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So I don't know if you remember this, but back at the beginning of the show, Alex said

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he knew who the Supreme Court pick was.

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I do remember that.

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And uh...

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Now continuing, ladies and gentlemen, they are all in because they are losing.

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All in.

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Why does he keep saying all in?

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Is he going to fucking show up at that wrestling show?

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I hope so.

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Alex is all in.

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He's money in the bank.

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We are winning.

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Coming up at the bottom of the hour, I'm going to tell you currently, exclusively, hiding

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in my view, who is currently the person about to be nominated to replace the outgoing Justice

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Kennedy.

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That's pathetic.

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And I was told this back at the time, I know about what went on, I know the inside baseball,

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I was told all of it.

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And then a lot of it came out later in the news, but I'm going to tell you who currently

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it may change, but who currently, they are looking to put on the U.S. Supreme Court.

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It couldn't be a better person.

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So I am very, very, very, very, very excited to be able to bring you this information.

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You might want to call your neighbors, your friends, your family, so come tune in to m4wars.com.

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Stop people in traffic.

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This is so sad.

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This is so sad.

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This is so sad.

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Stop people in traffic.

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This is sad.

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This is a radio station where you're listening.

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That's how we reach more people.

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Yes it is.

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This is sad.

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This is sad.

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That was my first reaction to this.

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This is sad.

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He's teasing it out.

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He does this all the time.

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I know, but I don't experience this level of doing it all the time.

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I don't bring it up every time he does it, though.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Although I will say that he rarely does the, like, fucking call people.

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He only pulls that out occasionally.

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That's pathetic.

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That level does only come out, and I know we experienced it during his fake FEMA camp

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shit in 2009.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He's done it a couple times since then.

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Generally speaking, it's just the tease is there, and it keeps going forever, but the

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stop people in traffic and tell them to tune in, that sort of thing is pretty special.

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So do you have any idea who the pick is?

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God, I don't know.

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Neil Gorsuch's kid?

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I don't know who he's fucking talking about.

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Maybe it's Steve Pechenik.

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No.

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Yeah, he's not a judge.

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I don't know.

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I don't know judges, Dan.

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Can you think of any judges?

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No!

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I can't think of any judges except for Joe Brown.

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Mills Lane.

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I don't know who Mills Lane is.

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Who's the judge from Celebrity Deathmatch?

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God, your level of weird polls will never cease to excite me.

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Look, I existed at a certain time in life.

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Weird way to phrase that.

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That is a weird way to put it.

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So Alex goes to break and then he comes back and he's clearly talked to Roger Stone and

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Roger is like, dude, shut the fuck up.

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And it's really fun because we get a very clear picture of where Alex is getting his

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permissions to say things from.

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Okay, I've been on the phone with folks basically asking me not to say who Trump has picked

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as the Supreme Court replacement for Justice Kennedy.

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And I was told by multiple sources at the time about this and I was not told this in

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confidence.

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And we've even talked about this on air before.

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But I've already told you that I'm going to say who is, let's just say this then, in the

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front running.

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Even though this individual has been told you're next, you're the next one.

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So I'm going to talk about that in the next segment.

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But this is big breaking exclusiveness.

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Okay.

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So he is a little bit like he's being told to shut up, like stop, you're going to blow

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up a spot here.

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Because obviously what he's about to say is, man, I hope it's not true.

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And I don't think it's true.

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He's about to reveal it though.

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He will.

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He's about to actually say it.

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I will say the tease does come full circle.

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He does reveal what the name is.

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And man, I really don't think there's any chance.

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Are you willing to accept?

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I will say that the name that he says is someone who I have joked is going to be Trump's next

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paper.

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Okay.

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All right.

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I have, whether it's socially on this show or on Twitter, I have made the joke that this

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is going to be our next Supreme Court justice.

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Okay.

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I, could you, would you allow for the possibility that this is part of the tease, that this

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is the work?

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No.

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You wouldn't allow for that?

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No, because of this.

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So this will be exclusive.

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This information is directly from El Presidente.

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Then I made some phone calls and they're like, well, yeah, that's the case, but that could

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change definitely in the hunt, in the front of the running.

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But then why can't info wars have the big exclusive?

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You see, that's the establishment cannot stand that, but I know there's a lot of smart people

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too that just say, who knows how that fits into the calculus or whatever.

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So the reason I don't think it's part of the tease is because he's spinning out on air.

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Like, why can't I just fucking have a story?

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Yeah.

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He's getting really petty and petulant on air about this.

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That does give me a-

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But the idea is he's really mad about the idea of someone who's saying, don't put it

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that way.

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Don't talk like that because Roger Stone probably knows he's been talking shit.

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Like he's doing his like back of cigar shop talk and he's just told Alex this stuff and

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he's like, look, when this doesn't come to pass, you don't want to look stupid or something

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like that.

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I imagine that-

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I don't buy that.

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That's the only explanation I can come up with.

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Yeah, but Roger Stone loves watching Alex look stupid.

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Roger Stone loves watching Alex look stupid and then he'll dig at him in that way of like,

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I'm giving you a compliment and yet at the same time it's a dig and Alex never sees it

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and I feel like that's the biggest joy that Roger Stone has in his professional career

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right now.

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No, this is you projecting onto Roger too much.

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What?

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That's what you want Roger to be doing.

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I think a lot of times he's not.

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Now, Steve possibly.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Steve Projannik possibly is trying to fuck with Alex and I think Roger is fucking with

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him too, but for his own benefit.

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And I don't think that Alex saying that Roger has told him that this is going to be the

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next Supreme Court justice and then it turns out is not, I don't think that works to Roger's

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benefit.

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Okay.

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So I think that might be the game that's being played out behind the scenes.

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So now Alex is bent out of shape about the idea that he's being told, don't say that,

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but that's been his tease.

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He's been doing this the entire show so far as long as he's like, I'm in this weird spot.

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So then he shifts over and he plays a video of Rod Rosenstein being interviewed by Jim

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Jordan and Trey Gowdy.

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So giving him the business and yelling at him about how he's not providing documents

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and trying to cover stuff up.

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The Rod Rosenstein scene the whole time is like, when something is redacted in a document,

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that doesn't mean I did it.

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He's just trying to explain that like, this is a large organization that we have here.

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It doesn't mean that I did, I crossed out everything.

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It's the, I have 15,000 agents or whatever.

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There's a whole organizational structure.

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I'm not withholding information from you.

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I've been Jim Jordan or just yell at him, just like, all right.

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So you're telling me that these redacted documents are not just a black pen that he himself crosses

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out the stuff he doesn't want to see.

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It's not like he's a grade school teacher being like, you're going to need to get rid

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of the sentence.

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We got to move some wording around.

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It's not that.

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Yeah, it's not that.

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It's a whole, it's a whole top down kind of situation.

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And so Rosenstein is trying to explain in this hearing that Alex plays select clips

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of.

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He's trying to explain that like, you know, it's not a thing where I rule over this department.

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It's a thing where I'm the head of it, but there's a lot of organizational structure

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to it and I don't oversee literally every single thing.

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And I'm trying not to micromanage.

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That's a bad way of management.

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I read a whole book.

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It's a Japanese book of management techniques.

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It's really worked out well so far.

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DOJ is clearly running smoothly.

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And the Jim Jordan's argument seems to be you run everything, which is not, it doesn't

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get anywhere because Rosenstein just keeps trying to be like, I don't.

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And then Trey Gowdy's part in it is even weird because Alex is saying that like, Trey Gowdy

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is saying that this investigation is hurting America, but he accidentally plays too much

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of the clip.

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And Trey Gowdy starts with like, Russia attacked America, but they're not being hurt by this.

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We are, our process is being hurt by this.

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We need to wrap this up.

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He's wrong about the idea that we need to, anything Trey Gowdy says is the worst.

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But he presents it, even Trey Gowdy presents it as like, this is a real thing where Russia

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did fuck with us.

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So even that runs counter to what Alex is trying to present.

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Anyway, it's a hot mess and there's no real point to listen to any of it.

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If you want to go listen to the hearings, you're welcome to.

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Don't.

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You know exactly what Alex's point on it is, is like, he's lying under oath.

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We caught him.

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And he's not.

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So it leads to this.

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It's ridiculous.

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That's why suddenly AP Reuters, the Hill, New York Times, Russia Gates over, you're

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going to get disappointed.

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It's over.

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It's done.

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What are we going to do?

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But don't think Mueller and those corrupt loons are going to throw the towel in.

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They're just going to make up more crap.

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But this is quite a spectacle, Democrats saying, attack the family, kidnap Trump's son, murder

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everyone, kill me, kill more members of Congress, firebomb talk show host, firebomb Steven Crowder.

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I can't even keep track of the crazy stuff they're doing now.

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Certainly you can't.

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And physically, like trying to lynch mob me on the street while I walk around a leftist

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area.

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They're lunatics until you stand up and they start crapping themselves like, go ahead.

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Big tough guys.

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This isn't a simulation.

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What do you think?

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I'm playing games.

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You think the president's playing games?

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We're taking the country back, taking it back, taking it back with 14 year words that we

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must secure.

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Taking it back.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's really the vibe of what's, you know, the people who are taking things back, but

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taking it back to a point where a lot of people didn't have rights.

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Yeah.

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The thing too is like a lot of those things, a lot of things that he's citing as like a

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these horrible things that liberals are doing, they're talking about like people who did,

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you know, maybe, maybe, maybe a little out there tweets about like, hey, people's families

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are being taken apart.

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Why don't we take Trump's kid, you know, like that sort of thing.

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Like why don't we put Trump's kid in the camp?

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I'm fine with that.

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I understand that you're fine.

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I don't really care.

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I'm not here to say like, hey, you shouldn't tweet that.

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I think that you, when you do, you open up the possibility of Alex saying that, but Alex

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would say something no matter what.

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Exactly.

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It doesn't, I'm not saying don't say stuff like that because the intent is to highlight

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how horrifying it is that people's kids are being separated from them.

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And I don't, I don't think, of course, Alex doesn't want to wrestle with that.

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And at the end of the day, that's the whole thing about the restraining your language

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and stuff like that, which I've been very much on the side of and now I'm iffy about.

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Well that's it.

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But that's one thing that you can draw from Alexandria is who gives a fuck?

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They're going to, if you're the most middle of the road, if you're the neoliberal Obama

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all over again, they're going to say that you're a democratic socialist.

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They're going to say that you're a democratic socialist.

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Yeah, no, exactly.

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They're going to say you're a fucking tyrant.

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So fucking lean into it.

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Lean into it.

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If I was running for president right now, my very first words would be, let's take their

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guns away.

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Fuck it.

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Yeah.

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Why the fuck not?

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They're going to say, I'm going to try to do it anyway, so let's just do it.

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Have we considered that?

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I would do a DX style, a thing like a degeneration X style promo all the time whenever I'm running

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for office, it would always end and begin with, if you're not down with me, I got two

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words for you.

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Yeah.

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Suck it.

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Okay.

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There you go.

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All right.

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You would do the whole job.

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Oh yeah.

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And then we'd kick in with their themes.

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The chop is unelectable.

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We'd kick in with a theme song, the, uh, the run DMC version of the DX theme song.

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Right.

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Oh boy.

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You guys that the chop is why Bernie didn't win the PR the primary, he did the chop one

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time and then he'd never had a chance against political suicide.

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It's political suicide.

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I was about to get to Howard Dean, you son of a bitch.

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Um, I would just DMX it and say, uh, X go and give it to you, Jordan, go and give it

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to you.

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Say it.

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What's that?

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Uh, socialized healthcare, Jordan, go give it to you.

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To quote the American worker.

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I'm slipping.

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I'm falling, right?

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Get up.

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Right.

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I'm slipping.

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I'm falling.

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I can't get up.

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Get me back on my feet so I can test shit.

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That's a DMX lyric.

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Fuck you.

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He knew it was a DMX lyric.

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I was just letting you roll.

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All right.

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I knew you were going to give it to me.

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Um, so in this next clip, Alex makes it, he gets back to the Supreme court thing and uh,

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I think in the process makes it too clear that, uh, it's Roger who's feeding him all

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of his information.

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I know who the president told you are my next nominee after the first one.

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And then the issue is I was never told, don't talk about that.

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But then it becomes, well, don't steal the president's fire.

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The president doesn't care.

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The president and his folks have told me, attack, press the attack.

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I can't be sitting here and politicking, trying to always calculate every angle.

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We'll see.

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We'll see what I get into.

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He's just mad on here about this because Roger has, he's cucked him.

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But none of these people can actually still be talking to Trump, right?

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I think Roger might be.

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There's no way that Roger is still talking to Trump at the best.

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John talked to him.

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I know.

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I was just thinking that as I was saying, there's no way these people are talking to

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the president.

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I'm like, Oh, but a guy just called him pretending to be a Senator and that was fine.

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I'm almost certain you could talk to him.

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I want to.

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We might find out a way here in a little bit.

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Who cares about all that, what you just said?

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Oh yeah, no, he said nothing.

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Yeah, but it just makes it more indicative that he's having a fight with Roger behind

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the scenes.

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A lover's quarrel.

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Indeed.

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Spat.

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So in 2009, I think it was our most recent 2009 episode, we covered that February 11th

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episode where it became crystal clear to me especially.

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And I think I was late to the party.

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I think everyone else had jumped on this conclusion already that Alex's principles were largely

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based in fear of things that eventually could be done to white people.

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The idea of minorities being put in camps didn't bother him.

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He just was bothered about the idea that eventually they're going to do it to us good people as

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he would present it, us American Western people.

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Once the slippery slope became a plateau, he was like, Hey, fuck it.

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I'm fine with that.

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So now that was in 2009 and now sort of having those scales fallen from my eyes, I hear clips

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like this from the present day quite differently.

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You know, the left attacks me and they go, Oh, you're now for the military and for the

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police.

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You always hated him and you were the big police state guy.

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No, I was against the left and the globalist and the Ford Foundation and the Southern Poverty

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Law Center with the training manuals, with the video that police and military sent us

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because they cared being trained that America was bad, that the bill of rights is bad, that

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George Washington is bad, the free market is bad, and that gun owners are going to have

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to be put in FEMA camps.

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I kind of want that.

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All of those things that he's talking about are all misrepresentations, all of this idea

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of like these people are being trained by the Southern Poverty Law Center, that George

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Washington is bad and stuff like that.

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That is all misrepresentations of people realizing that white terrorism is a real thing and it

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is very active in our country.

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And so law enforcement is trained to deal with that or to look at it as a priority.

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And this, to Alex, is seen as a major threat, which it shouldn't be.

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Well, that's his audience.

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White terrorists are Alex's audience.

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No shit.

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And largely his guest list.

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He's just mad because he's not on broadcast stations in prisons.

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If he was on broadcast stations in prisons, he would be fine with white terrorists being

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caught, because then he'd still have listeners.

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No, because they can't get like super blue through the commissary.

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That's true.

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Yeah, that's true.

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You have to work out contracts.

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Ooh, if he could put together a contract with for-profit prisons, he would be fucking set.

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He'd flip everything.

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Why are we giving him such good advice?

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If he worked out a contract with the prison industry, like for his products, he would

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be like, everybody needs to go to prison.

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Yeah, of course.

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The oppressive state is great.

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The number one way that you can help my organization is to rob someone else.

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We will end up in a police state, hallelujah.

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That would be his position if people in prison were his, like a market that he could suck

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off of.

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Oh yeah.

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Man, that's crazy to think about, but probably true.

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It's true.

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It's 100% true.

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Yeah.

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So, um, I'm not entirely sure what to say about this next clip other than I know that

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it's not accurate.

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I've mislabeled this.

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It's very vaguely labeled in my iTunes.

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Did you just label it not accurate?

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It's labeled, Trump is actually the nice one.

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And I don't exactly remember.

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I thought that would trigger in my brain like what he was talking about, but it's so it's

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too vague.

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I don't really remember.

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So let's enjoy it fresh.

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They're the ones saying, kill Trump's family.

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Trump's turning the economy on being nice, bringing folks together.

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But what he is is tough.

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He doesn't roll over when you attack him, you bullies, then you act like, oh, he's so

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uncivil.

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They're so mean.

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No, we've been putting up with your bullying and your lives are done and we're proving

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that you had us under suppression.

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We just took America back up to the surface.

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Our listeners, Trump, all of us, the Patriot movement worldwide, we're the leaders.

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We proved we were right.

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We're already turning it around instantly.

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We're like giving oxygen to somebody that's been trapped under water or water to somebody

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that's been in the Sahara Desert for three days.

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And people know they're like, oh, this is great air.

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I can breathe.

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Oh, water.

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Thank you.

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Wow.

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It's like, whoa.

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Yeah.

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And then the global scale, we're going to wreck America and burn it and have a depression

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on TV.

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We go, wow.

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Alex Jones always said you wanted to make us poor.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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They're scum.

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I just kept that last part in there for the sniffle.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah, I don't know.

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I just would say that that's not real in any way.

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I don't think anyone's going on TV.

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I haven't seen anyone going on TV and saying like we want to cause depressions and shit.

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What I hear out of that is...

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Love me.

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Well, there's that.

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I'm smart.

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There's that.

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There's definitely that.

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Certainly.

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That makes me kind of convinced that it's like going to come down to a civil war.

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You've been talking like this a little bit lately and it makes me a little uncomfortable.

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No.

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I mean, and this isn't like I want to cause a civil war, but what I hear there is...

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You're talking about something you're afraid of as opposed to something that Alex wants

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to precipitate.

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See?

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No.

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I don't even think I'm afraid of it.

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I think I'm...

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Anxious about?

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It's more like I've started to feel like it's inevitable because here's how I hear...

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Here's what I hear him saying.

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It just reminds like this is what convinces me that a civil war or even just like not

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necessarily a war, like just break up the fucking country is that we can't even communicate.

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Like there's no...

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But honestly, that's what Alex wants to some extent.

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He wants nullification.

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But that's what the whole right wing has always wanted and it's the left that is just finally

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realizing that there's no reaching across the aisle.

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Right.

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This is over.

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Alex even uses this to sort of like impugn Barack Obama back in the day.

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He would always talk about how like everyone's comparing him to Lincoln and then he'd go

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to Lincoln speeches that are like, if I could save the union and what would be required

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is accepting that these people have slaves or whatever, then maybe we'd probably do that.

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I'm concerned with preserving the union.

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Right.

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And then as it went along, he got more anti-slavery.

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And we...

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And we...

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Like the...

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It's just geography.

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Yeah.

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If we could...

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It's too big a country.

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If Chicago and New York and L.A., just those three cities were like, nah, fuck this.

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And we all live near each other, we would create a city state.

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Like it would just be...

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It would just be...

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We're done.

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We could flip flop like, I don't know.

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I don't want to say this because it's going to be like insulting to people in Wyoming.

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But like, put New York in Wyoming, put...

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Are we playing Jenga?

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Is that what we're doing?

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Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Put Chicago in Arizona.

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Now we've got the West.

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You know, you take the Western seaboard.

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Like geologically, the issue is just like, we don't have it, it's split correctly.

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It's urban versus rural and they're done.

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But Jordan, the problem becomes that once that imaginary dichotomy that we're making,

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where like Chicago and New York move to the West Coast, let's say, they just get a big

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chunk of the West Coast.

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Can we do that?

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Can we put everybody on giant mobile homes?

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We can't, but let's imagine we could.

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So you do that and now you have all of the culture, not all of the culture, but all of

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the relevant pieces of culture, there's still amazing stuff all over the place in America.

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That's not to say that people in like Arkansas suck or anything like that.

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And how dare me for not including Houston and Atlanta.

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Those are both giant metropolitan areas.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Throw Austin over too, because they're great.

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Oh yeah, I love Austin.

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But Alex has got to stay.

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Alex has got to stay.

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The rest of Austin can come.

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If the entire Austin area just like left Alex, that would be fantastic.

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The M.A.C. dude can come.

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Even Buckley, he's a DJ.

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No, Buckley, I don't want Buckley.

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I don't want Buckley.

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I don't want Buckley.

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I don't want Buckley.

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All of that comes, let's say, and geographically it's one-sixth of the country, or what used

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to be the country.

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Like one-sixth is this liberal sliver that's free and minorities have rights and women

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have control over their own bodies and gays are cool and trans people are celebrated as

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being people, all that.

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And then you have the other part.

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White ethnostate.

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What you would end up having, I'm certain, is within about 15, 20 years, I would imagine,

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Manifest Destiny would pop back up and the right-

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And then we run into the same problem, which is that liberals are pussies and they get

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run over.

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It would just become cyclical all over again.

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The desire to compromise would always come up.

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We're always going to lose with that shit.

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That's why they won.

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We went way too far into that as a hypothetical.

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Yeah, fair enough.

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But I do agree with you.

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Where would you move, New York, though?

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Where would I move, New York?

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I mean, I feel like, I hate to say Wyoming because there's gorgeous natural vistas.

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New York needs water, though.

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There's water in Wyoming.

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Oh, you mean-

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I mean-

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Oh, it needs to be a port?

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No, I understand that there's water in Wyoming.

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Fine.

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What did you think I meant?

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I literally thought-

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That New York would die of thirst?

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Well, I thought that you meant that there weren't any lakes or rivers.

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No, no, no.

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That's not what I meant.

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I mean, I would say somewhere on the Great Lakes, but that's not very far west.

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Right.

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It'd be great just to push it over to Michigan.

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I just want New York and Michigan.

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Bring-

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Oh, God.

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Who cares?

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Look, we can't fantasy book what the world should look like.

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This is our new game.

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We're going to start a game called Fantasy Union.

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You pick your cities and you see who's going to survive the season.

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We're becoming little kids who are creating dream tag teams of wrestlers.

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It is exactly what we're doing.

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Let's move the greatest metropolitan area over into Michigan.

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We can have this midwest alliance.

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Oh, that'd be great.

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We would totally win.

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And then we absorb into Canada because we're close enough.

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Now, that's your liberal manifest destiny right there.

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We just take over Canada.

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Or just like plead them to let us join.

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I don't know.

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Look, all this stuff is real fucking hard to figure out.

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I don't really know what the... I don't know what direction is up, but I do know-

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I think at a certain point when the left realized there's no communication.

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There's no way for us to say anything because anything you say is going to be turned into

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you're trying to destroy the world.

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The family.

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You're trying to destroy America.

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You're trying to destroy the market.

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Any of that stuff.

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And they got there first.

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They own that space.

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Yeah, we can't say that that's what they're doing even though that's what they're doing.

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The only way to do it is to create a more appealing meme that would paint the picture

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that they are the ones who are destroying that stuff.

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And that would be really tough without the edgelords and weirdo meme makers that are

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already beholden to the alt-right world because they're fucking racist and hate women.

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So I guess there's really no way for liberalism to really march forward.

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Guns.

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Manifest destiny.

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So Jordan, it is now time to reveal- What?

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The Supreme Court.

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Oh shit, yes.

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Who is going- I forgot that's what this episode is about.

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Who is going to be number nine on the roster?

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Do you want to give any last predictions?

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It's not Michael Jordan.

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It's not Michael Jordan.

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It's not Charles Barkley.

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It's not Larry Bird.

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Judge Reinhold?

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It is not- see, I was hoping you would resist that joke because it's way too easy.

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I couldn't help myself.

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I'm running out.

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I don't know any judges.

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I don't know any judges.

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His name is Judge.

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Judge Napolitano?

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No!

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I remember back when the president got in and there was a Supreme Court vacancy.

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I remember that it was in the news some that Andrew Napolitano was in the running.

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But then later I learned from inside sources, not just Roger Stone, that Trump used a big

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computer program and worked with some big study groups to look at who had the most conservative

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federal voting record because he promised to go with the most conservative judge and

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some of his experts argued, well, that's not Napolitano because he was a state judge, yes,

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he's very conservative on air, yes, he's a very smart guy, but we're talking about federal

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judges up front right now.

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Wouldn't it be best to go with a federal judge first and that you said, okay, I'll do that.

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So I can technically say I have appointed the most conservative person on the bench

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currently.

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According to Steve Pachanik, neocon.

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Who has a bigger, longer record, but a good friend, Andrew Napolitano, he is going to

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be at the front of the running on the next round.

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So Andrew Napolitano, my dude.

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I really shouldn't have been able to be right.

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That should be against the law for me to have been right in that situation.

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You had enough context clues.

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I've joked about it and stuff like that.

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I know, but that seems silly.

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It's crazy.

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That seems silly.

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Fox News frequent contributor, Andrew Napolitano.

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If Trump even says that out loud, we should have riots in the street.

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There should just be riots in the fucking street.

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Also, you wouldn't need to say I didn't just get this from Roger Stone if you hadn't just

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got it from Roger Stone.

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You don't need to say it if it's not something that you're preemptively defensive about because

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it's already true.

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I'd like to tell you a positive about Andrew Napolitano.

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Okay.

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He owns a maple syrup farm.

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Oh, that is nice.

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That's it.

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Is it good?

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I haven't tried it.

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That's all the positives I have on it.

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We're going to have to order something.

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Yeah.

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That's all the positives I have.

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The other negatives that I have on him is he is a revisionist civil war guy.

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Great.

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He's a guy who-

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States' rights.

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... sort of thing.

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Tariffs.

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States' rights.

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All that stuff.

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Lincoln could have freed slaves by paying their slaveholders, all that stuff.

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That makes perfect sense.

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All that sort of nonsense.

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He's also-

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I bet everybody would have been fine with that.

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He's also a 9-11 conspiracy truther.

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Now that I'm actually fine with because I believe that the Supreme Court calls 9-11.

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Oh, man.

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Also, not good when he's friends with Trump.

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Yeah, that's bad.

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It's not good for the president to be good friends with someone he's like, I'm going

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to put on the Supreme Court.

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I mean, but at the same time, it's technically legal for him to appoint himself as the Supreme

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Court justice.

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Totally.

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I mean, still needs a law degree, I think.

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It doesn't.

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It doesn't.

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I think that's a-

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Does anybody know what's going on?

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Does anybody fucking know what's going on?

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I don't think this is going to happen.

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I don't think it's going to happen.

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Although, I've said that a lot.

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That's a good point.

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I've said that a lot in the last year and a half, two years, and I've been wrong almost

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every time.

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Look at Scott Pruitt.

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Why couldn't Napolitano be a Supreme Court?

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Why couldn't Trump just fucking nominate Scott Pruitt?

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It doesn't mean anything at this point.

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Nothing matters.

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It's all just going to lube up the slide downward.

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It doesn't even fucking... Whatever name he says is going to be the worst possible

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fucking name.

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We've got a million awful people to choose from, and it's not even like Kennedy was some

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kind of swing vote.

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He was like the 10th most conservative Supreme Court justice in history.

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It doesn't fucking matter.

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He was a hinge on a number of issues.

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On a few fucking cases, but for the rest of the time he was a pile of shit.

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They were fairly important, but that's just because he was the fall guy for it.

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Everybody kind of got together in the Supreme Court and were like, for real though, we all

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say we believe this shit, but none of us actually believe this shit.

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Stop it.

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Kennedy, you're the fall guy.

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I hope we don't live in such a world where this could be treated seriously, but who fucking

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knows?

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It will be.

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Anyway, Alex has revealed his big piece of news, and now Roger Stone... You might want

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to keep your pen handy for this because it might be something you need to write down.

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What's Roger got to say?

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Roger wants to let people know how we can make this a reality.

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Judge Andrew Napolitano is currently at the top of the list.

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How do we make sure he stays at the top and gets in there despite the leftist globalist

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bullying?

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Anybody that's really good, that's who they're going to fight, just like they fought Trump

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getting into office.

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Well, if you're a believer, as I am, that Andrew Napolitano would be a great Supreme

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Court justice, you should reach out for the president.

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You can call the White House switchboard where they're set up to take messages from the American

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people, 202-456-1414, 202-456-1414.

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Flooding the White House switchboard with supportive calls would be very helpful.

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Keep it short.

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Keep it respectful.

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Okay.

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Well, Jordan has pulled out his phone, as I imagine you might have done.

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Much like when Larry Nichols gave out his phone number, I think it's time to call the

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White House switchboard.

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For quality and training purposes, this call may be monitored but will not be recorded.

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Oh, that's nice.

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That seems crazy.

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What is this, a telemarketing thing?

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Oh.

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And they hung up on me.

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They hung up on me.

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Great switchboard.

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You can't just do that.

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Give it another ring.

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You can't just hang up on me.

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For quality and training purposes, this call may be monitored but will not be recorded.

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That's not usually how things go with telemarketing places.

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Usually do both.

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Bad training.

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No ring here.

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I think they're going to hang up on you.

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The White House.

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Hey.

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Hi.

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Can I leave a message for the White House?

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One moment.

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You should ask for the President.

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Thanks for calling the White House comment line.

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The office is closed.

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The office is closed.

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Please call back between the hours of 9 a.m. and 4 p.m.

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Eastern Time, Monday through Friday.

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Our direct telephone number is 202- Let me leave a fucking message!

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To leave a comment for President Trump, please visit our website at www- Oh, bullshit.

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Oh, come on!

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Call back and ask for Trump.

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Say you're Ron Paul.

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Okay.

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Say you're Rand Paul.

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For quality and training purposes, this call may be monitored but will not be recorded.

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We're turning into the jerky boys.

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I'm going to do a voice.

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Why not?

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God damn it!

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Hung up on you.

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This is the worst government we've ever had.

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Very, very bad.

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I bet I could have called and talked to Obama straight away.

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Absolutely.

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He's a man of the people.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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I do think you should try and call back and pretend to be Rand Paul.

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I don't know how to do his voice.

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I was going to do Larry Nichols.

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Do Larry Nichols.

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I was going to do Larry Nichols.

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Not that I actually do a Larry Nichols.

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I need to warn Trump about the caliphate.

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For quality and training purposes, this call may be monitored but will not be recorded.

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My fear about this is there's going to be no payoff.

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Soweto.

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Hi.

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Can I talk to Trey Gowdy?

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I'm sorry, who?

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Trey Gowdy.

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Representative.

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Representative Trey Gowdy.

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I apologize.

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Is he in there today?

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Do you need to contact the Capitol building?

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He doesn't work at the White House.

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He doesn't work at the White House.

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Ah, I feel like he does.

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Senator and Congressman do not work at White Houses.

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Yeah, but he kind of does, right?

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Like he's a punk bitch.

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This is not good.

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This is a bad prank call.

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All right.

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That was a prank.

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Jordan.

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I didn't want to prank call the White House.

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That's mean.

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You just showed your lack of chops.

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I know.

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In terms of prank calls.

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I'm not a prank caller.

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I've never prank called before.

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Holy shit.

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Legitimately never prank called before.

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Also, she's put upon.

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She doesn't need this shit.

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Yeah, that's not on her.

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That's not her fault.

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She's just a switchboard operator.

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You should have asked for Pence.

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Why would I ask for Pence?

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Because he works at the White House.

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Even if I was prank calling, I wouldn't want to talk to that motherfucker.

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Maybe you get him talking dirty.

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Get some of his fantasies out.

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I've had sex with 45 dudes.

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I am very gay.

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I'm Mike Pence.

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This is PSA.

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All we've done here is really the same thing that Stuttering John did, but with a no payoff.

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Yeah, I know.

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I don't know why we called it.

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Edit this out.

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You kind of hope that you'd get to talk to somebody.

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Who would you even talk to?

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Well, I know that Alex used to say that Trump would be up manning the switchboard himself.

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Remember that narrative that he had?

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I forgot he was manning the switchboard himself.

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He's sitting around taking direct calls from people.

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Well, he's awful close to that.

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So at this point, Alex brazenly tells a massive lie and tries to do a really pump up speech.

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Does this really cool speech coming in from break.

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And see if you can find the biggest lie in this.

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The biggest lie?

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Biggest.

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Do you mean largest?

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Live from Austin, Texas.

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Broadcasting on over 260 radio stations.

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Over 400 TV stations.

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We got number one.

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Cable stations and simulcast on the internet in every format we can find that's a message

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in a bottle to global satellite transmission.

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This is the info war.

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I am Alex Jones, commissioned by duty and justice by the president to take action against

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the globalist and to cover the topics others want to tell the savage truths to break the

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ice to blast through the enemy's defenses to make it safe for others to come out with

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the hard truths.

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We're here.

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Tip of the spear, the tip of the spear.

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Many claim to be it.

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This is the tip of the spear recognized enemy of the globalist.

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It's a three way tie.

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Happy time.

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Happy making time.

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Like George Soros talked about on 60 minutes, rounding up Jews.

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Happy making time.

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Exhilarating.

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Best time of my life.

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You know what?

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I didn't realize there'd be so many contenders for biggest lie.

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That's four for four on the biggest lie there's ever been.

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200 and something radio stations.

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Right.

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Commissioned by justice.

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Absolutely not.

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It's vague enough.

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It means nothing.

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So that might not be a lie.

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That's true.

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That could cancel out.

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Yeah.

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That could cancel out.

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That's a push.

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All right.

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If you ever got blackjack on that one.

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Soros.

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Soros for sure.

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That's up there.

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It's a happy making time.

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I don't think anybody's ever said that.

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Ever.

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I mean, Soros did.

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Did he?

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Yeah.

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In German?

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He's Hungarian.

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But he's talking about his time in the time of the Holocaust.

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And he's discussing how like he was a 14 year old and he felt free because of the heroics

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of his father saving a bunch of people from going to camps and how that was a he felt

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invigorated like nothing could touch him even though the world was crumbling all around

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him.

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Oh, that's right.

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And another quote is Alex has re-watched those videos and found a couple of new things.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He's been saying that one a whole bunch.

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I hadn't heard that one before.

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I didn't know about that one.

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He's revisited and found some new ammo.

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But again, it doesn't really mean anything.

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Yeah.

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Because he's also, you know, he's still pushing that same narrative.

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Yeah.

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Man, the 200 radio stations, though, that's a number.

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That's a hard number that we can say is a lie.

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Boy, that's not true.

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That's not true.

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Man, it's closer to 20.

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Is he even allowed to say that?

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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Whatever you want.

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Oh, that's true.

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We're on six thousand radio stations.

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Are we?

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Totally.

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Which ones?

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All of them.

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A.M.

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F.M.

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All of them.

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All of them.

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Knowledge Fight.

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You can find it everywhere on the dial.

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You can find it everywhere.

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We're 24-7 on every radio station.

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Why do we even do those plugs at the end?

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Because you can't not find Knowledge Fight.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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We're stupid.

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We are crazy everywhere.

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So.

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Yeah.

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We get to a guest, and this guest is wild.

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There's been a lot of bullshit on this episode so far, whether it's misrepresenting mythology,

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whether it's really teasing out the entire episode that Andrew Napolitano is going to

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be a Supreme Court justice, which I know we're laughing about now, but unfortunately, I do

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foresee a world where-

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I really don't think that's far.

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It's not beyond the pale, unfortunately.

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But now we get a guest, and this guy is real weird.

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Yeah.

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Real strange guest for Alex to have on.

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Here we go.

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Not surprised.

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That happened about a month and a half ago.

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One of the top stories in the country.

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He's been all over the news.

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Ho-Tep Jesus joins us, and I didn't know until I heard he went on with Owen Schroyer that

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he was even a listener for a while, but he's got a long, interesting bio.

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Books by Brian.com, Ho-TepNation.com, Twitter, Vibe High, but it's great to have him on with

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this.

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I just want to get him on as a commentator routinely to give his take on the world and

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things he's doing, because I've seen that clip on my show, and then I saw him with Owen.

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I was like, well, I'm jealous.

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Owen got him a couple times.

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I haven't.

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I watched the interview, and really like what he had to say, so we'll cover the waterfront,

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but I think his awakening is important.

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That's one of the things he wanted to talk about, because it's part of other people's

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awakening.

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And then where is this point in the world we are right now where things have gotten

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so crazy, and where does he think things are going next?

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So Ho-Tep, thanks for joining us.

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Alex Jones, the man, what's up, baby?

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What's up?

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That is the best start to an Alex Jones call I think we've ever had on this show.

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Do you know who Ho-Tep Jesus is?

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I don't know who Ho-Tep Jesus is.

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He's a comedian and a writer.

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He's the guy who went into Starbucks and got his reparation coffee that Alex covered.

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That's pretty funny.

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Right.

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With that video that was supposed to be so damning, and all that happened was someone

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was really nice to him at the Starbucks and was like, yeah, I feel like that was kind

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of bullshit.

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It was very coffee.

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And there was no real point made by it.

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I don't think that the person at the Starbucks was expressing immense white guilt.

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No, if I remember correctly, my opinion was, just go away, dude.

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Whatever.

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Well, no, I think she was much more nice.

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No, no, no, no, I understand that.

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But there was a certain level of like, yeah, all right, cool, let's just not make this

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a thing.

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And again, as someone who has managed a Starbucks, I will tell you that they have a policy of

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just give people some coffee.

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Even homeless people that come in and they want a cup of coffee, you're supposed to give

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it to them because that's good PR, more or less, or good for the community and what have

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you.

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And let's face it, coffee costs zero dollars.

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So he went viral making that video.

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And so now Alex has got to have him on because he desperately needs.

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He's so obsessed with being viral.

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And again, he's thrilled to have someone who is not white, who is into his worldview.

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Was he still living with his parents?

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Did he get picked up?

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No, although Alex doesn't want to have that guy on anymore.

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Mike Rotondo.

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Oh no, why not?

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Well, it turns out that Mike, there's a, Vice put out a video that was catching a backup

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with Mike Rotondo.

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Oh, VH1s, where are they now?

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More or less.

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And it turns out that he is now living with a lady who allows him to live there in exchange

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for doing like yard work.

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An old woman.

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Quote unquote, yard work.

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It seems like that's the case.

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I don't know.

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I don't know how to disparage anybody.

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It seems like she's a very nice lady and one of the reasons she should get hers.

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One of the reasons I think Alex will never have him back on is because in this Vice video,

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the lady is being interviewed in front of her house and she has a blessed Ramadan sign

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in front of her house.

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So now Mike Rotondo has been taken in by a very generous Muslim woman.

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And at press time.

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Oh, ironic end.

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And it's at press time, it's very mysterious what happened to that $3,000 that Alex gave

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him.

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And when he was on Infowars, he was going to check bounce.

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He was going to move in with that guy who was super into Infowars and clearly he hasn't

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moved in with that guy.

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Yeah.

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Well, of course.

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So I don't know.

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That would be gross.

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This is where my interest in the Mike Rotondo saga has far exceeded its expiration date.

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Man, if he converts to Islam, that would be the best.

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He comes back on.

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He's like, Salaam Alaikum, Alex.

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Salaam Alaikum.

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That'd be so great.

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That'd be so good.

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So now here's what, here's what Hoteb Jesus wants to get into.

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And then we'll get into him.

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But we got to do one thing for the internets today.

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We got to do one thing for the internets today.

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The internets need to see me and you side by side screaming and raging at the globalists,

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man.

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Can you do that for me, man?

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Sure.

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I lose my voice.

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That's why I so my voice used to be scratchy, but I screamed so much.

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My larynx is gone.

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It's like...

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Audrey Breakdown

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You owe me a couple l -

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Oh no, feels good now

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But it feels good as you,

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I'm done whatever you -

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I'm not buying anything you say,

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I'm free

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And I'm not buying your crap

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anymore yeah yeah yeah that's how I feel when I come off my parachute I got that

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Ali Jones ring yeah yeah I've got all the life to do that anymore about safe we

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need that the movement lacks passion and you bring passion and I love it yeah

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that's what the conservative kind of art I mean I'm already passionate having you

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on but I'm usually something's already pissing me off it's all coming to go but

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I realize you know they're not gonna suppress us and then I decide to fight

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then that just happens but yeah and they made some memes with what's that called

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super sighing it's some kind of Japanese TV thing goku went super saiyan in his

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first fight against Frieza it was very important then as the series went on

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there were different levels of super saiyan in Dragon Ball super which is the

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new version of that there was a super saiyan God level it's a really

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convoluted situation it's fantastic and then just gloss over that and then Sonic

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stole it right minus one went to minus one supersonic and we're we're even also

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I'm stalling a tiny bit because yeah really funny that all this comes up

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because on hotep Jesus's website he has an article that has come out let me see

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the date on this I'm not entirely sure May 18th of this year title Dragon Ball

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Z is liberal bullshit no Dragon Ball series teaches valuable life should I

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read this I want to hear this so much watching Dragon Ball series life lesson

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nostalgia every episode hints at a hidden esoteric gems allow me to provide

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a high-level overview of what's reinforced Gohan yes that's Goku son

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Gohan is a luxury of being homeschooled until he's of high school age what's the

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condition of the public school systems today wouldn't it be ideal if families

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could homeschool thanks to his mother Chi Chi Gohan focuses on his books

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unlike his father Goku after after proving his power in a victory over cell

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he finds it important to be educated he actually didn't Vic he actually didn't

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win against cell he went super saiyan level two but it was once again a spirit

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bomb that defeated cell now let's talk about Vegeta yes let's talk about Vegeta

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this guy is my favorite character okay it is his sheer will which sometimes

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borders on ignorance that inspires me this guy trains non-stop he will stop it

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nothing to be the best before the Android saga blooma Bulma Bulma yeah

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builds him a gravity machine basically it's a room where gravity gets

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multiplied the average human would not be able to stand up in this room let

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alone train with the machine set to low hold on not only trains in this thing

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but he literally destroys the machine while it's set to over 300 times

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gravity he was doing handstand push-ups on one arm and a gravity machine spoiler

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alert it's a cartoon well now this is important in the context of his own

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argument because the only reason that Vegeta did this was because Goku did the

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same thing on his a spaceship flight over to the planet Namek all right when

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he was going to fight and that is arguably why Goku went super saiyan in

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the first place so Vegeta was just trying to catch up

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Vegeta is just a jealous little bitch that's what's going on there so and that

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is the conservative movement in Goku yes he's the series protagonist and Japan's

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Mickey Mouse he's not there yeah I think Pikachu is still I respect him by the

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way every of course he hates Goku every most relentlessly positive character

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okay every sentence that I'm reading is a new paragraph this is every sentence

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paragraph all right he annoys me for two reasons yes he drops his guard too

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easily and he's a naive idiot oh no oh no splashed a little that beer was a

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little loaded there he drops his guard too easily and he is a naive idiot but

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you have to respect he's gangsta when it comes to fighting he wants to fight

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anyone and everyone to prove his supremacy as a fighter after Krillin

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dies for the second time at the hands of Frieza we see Goku turn super saiyan go

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to have a unique drive to consistently reach new heights he's always pushing

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the envelope pushing himself to the next level not being satisfied with his

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current successes you're only as good as your last fight parenthetically

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accomplishment sometimes we get stuck on celebrating our past achievements and we

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embellish them to prove our worth today what is the next achievement what height

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are you reaching for it so that's what he has to say about Goku how do you feel

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about that was that track with your understanding you know what that's not a

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terrible that's not a terrible analysis of Goku now let's talk about piccolo

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let's talk about piccolo piccolo is a very interesting character this guy is

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like the godfather of the Z fighters that doesn't make sense but okay he's a

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mastermind behind the team with no he's not around because he's trying to save

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the universe training or waiting to be wished back to life Gohan doesn't have a

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masculine energy to mentor him piccolo steps into their role that's true you

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can see his mentorship paying off when Gohan basically becomes the coach for

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universe 7 in the tournament that's go that's a Dragon Ball super I believe

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I'm gonna read this entire but it's Gohan's mind that creates the plan to

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work as a team a foreign concept for Goku and Vegeta what's the lesson here

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what is the lesson here you have the energy and the elders have the wisdom

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experience is meant to be passed down when the two are combined you create an

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unstoppable force too often we set bad examples for the next generation

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especially on social media which is very relevant in Dragon Ball that's parent

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that is not very relevant okay okay the kids are watching and they will emulate

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us you don't always need to lead someone with hands-on mentorship because they

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are watching we need to holy shit this has nothing to do with piccolo wait did

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he say that no that's me I was that's you there's six more paragraphs there's

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six more paragraphs let's talk about Chi Chi all right of all the care oh man

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Chi Chi he's gonna knock on her or no he's gonna do the opposite he's gonna

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say that she is like a stereotype she's like the the the mother ideal that's he

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that's his opinion right quote of all the characters Chi Chi is probably the

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most grounded while others are distracted with training and fighting

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aliens Chi Chi is the one who reminds them of the bills that have to be paid

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and kids have an education to get she's what's missing from so many families in

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America there is with feminism pulling women out of the home there's no one at

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home to attend to the kids full-time with the full-time mother kids get the

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care and attention they need and that's a legitimate criticism of Chi Chi's

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character not a supporting argument it's gender roles that hold the family

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together as a solid unit Chi Chi was no pushover she's the only person who can

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intimidate Goku shared assault rifles and submachine guns parenthetically

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definitely a Second Amendment advocate I don't think that was in America I don't

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think Dragon Ball Z happened in America no it did not fair I look I know nothing

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about it I just assumed I know not about the Constitution I just realized I know

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way more about this than I should choose a slouch she was no slouch and could

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fight with the best of them they never got in the way of a role as a woman she

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kept Goku checked and grounded she's the mind of the home a vital role creating a

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powerful nation nice this isn't done how is this not done what do you think about

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Frieza literally wanted to destroy the world for his own power there's no way

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this is funny as I mentioned in my book sometimes no no no no no I don't like

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that he has a book I can't write a book he should not be allowed to well that's

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as good a point as any to transition off his rambling about Dragon Ball so he's

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written a book his real name no tap Jesus is Brian sharp and he's written a

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book called quote Twitter marketing how to build a cult like following that's

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his book it promises to teach you how to quote write viral tweets every time how

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to network with influencers for your benefit how to manipulate Twitter

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algorithms although he misspelled algorithms in the the ad for the book

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not important this is the same as like Dave Seaman the Pizzagate vlogger turned

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Bitcoin hack who had previously written a book all about how to create and use

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buzz these people at their core are all scam artists should we buy that book

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though no maybe we could get some better Twitter traction but I think we would

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end up losing a bunch of ourselves in it so we've talked about him I like that

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diversion because it's fun to yell about his rambling about Dragon Ball but

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what's more important is to look at this guy as a as a person so I will eat the

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name he wants to go by his hotel Jesus even though his name is Brian sharp so

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I'll refer to him as hotel keys hotel Jesus in a post on his website hotel

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Jesus defines what hotel lifestyle means to him and as best I can tell it's

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pretty much just about black nationalists working together with white

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nationalists as hotel Jesus put it quote you know it's bad when I'd rather align

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with a racist white than a crybaby black this is not really new David Duke and

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Louis Farrakhan respect each other's desire for their respective races to

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live separately from one another it's not really a new like it's not a novel

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perspective to have but he's just trying to merge black nationalism with white

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national right because they would be a much more powerful force together I'm

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gonna go with a inconclusive I will say inconclusive as to whether or not they

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would be a far more powerful force working together I think if there was a

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way for them necessarily to work together I think it would be I think it

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would it would distract a lot of people I think Fred Hampton was the last person

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to try and do that and he got murdered for it but I don't think that was

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necessarily strict black nationalism and white nationalism he was trying to bring

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together no well I mean he was trying to do that but under the aegis of hey let's

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not do that right let's not be black nationalists or white nationalists

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another post defines hotep which is a term for a lifestyle grouping hotep is

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not just like a like a we'll get to the I thought it was a yeah okay get to that

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in a second all right but another post defines hotep as being all about

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strengthening the quote nuclear black family specifically defined as a man

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woman and child this post goes on to explain that they're not homophobic

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which seems really strange shouldn't need to say that just like just like

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when he says hey I didn't just get this from Roger Stone like a caveat of hey I

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don't just want to is an argument against your point right but it also is

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like all we care about is the black nuclear family man woman child also we

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don't read gays although they aren't having a man woman and child you know

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they're outside of the thing we seem to only care about right but we're not

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homophobic why would you I just don't understand how those two things match up

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but whatever you can say whatever you want to say also the hotep name denotes

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a black nationalist new religious movement that's emerged that is

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basically about it's an afro centric version of this thing called chemotism

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which is the belief that the ancient Egyptian pharaohs were black so it goes

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back to it's a it's a it's a I mean they were African sure Egypt is in Africa

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you can black but all like this is a spiritualist movement this is like an

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esoteric movement yeah that like it involves a lot of like Alex isn't taking

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into account like all of the other things that him his name being hotep

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Jesus and what he's involved in outside of politics like the religiosity of the

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chemotism and stuff like that is really counter to what Alex is into yeah like

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he this guy is close to like the lost children of Babylon right in terms of

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their like that rap group into well the new abians like those sorts of groups

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first off give me the 5% nation it's very close right but it's not that's

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Islam exactly second I don't think that jives much with Alex really in like

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because because just like we just like we are just like you came to the

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realization of all of his fears were about what if this happened to white

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people right and at the end of the day all of hotep's ideas are like you do you

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man and leave us the fuck alone so that's let's do let's do let's yeah

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whatever that is that is the same thing like he's only afraid of black people if

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there's the idea that there's an encroachment upon his whatever it is and

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if they're fine with his yeah if you're fine with me being a white nationalist

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and you just died like like don't live near me then you can believe whatever

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the fuck you want yeah I like Alex just doesn't want to see anything no I mean

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he said it over and over again yeah I want to be made to feel bad yeah he

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doesn't want to feel bad about the bigotry that lives exactly yeah I want

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to be a bigot but you from like a distance like I'm fine with being a

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bigot as long as you don't come into my I don't want to see those Muslim women

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at the pool exactly I just go to the pool shop exactly and hate them when I

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get home I want the 1950s white city that's what he wants so now beyond that

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hotep Jesus does not seem like a great guy he had an interesting take on the

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unite the right rally in Charlottesville quote if there was no anti-protest there

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there would have been no clash DeAndre Harris wouldn't be hurt and Heather

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Hare wouldn't have been murdered fact exclamation point I mean with zero

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context I suppose that's a factual statement let Nazis March the

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individuals who were killed or hurt in the anti-protest would not be hurt but

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they would all be hurt as more and more Nazi protests and rallies happen what he

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just said was if the Jews didn't live in Germany they wouldn't have been

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Holocaust there's something there's there's some similarity there yeah so

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he's also appeared on this show called red ice TV which is a show run by Henrik

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Palmgren who's a Swedish white mass nationalist yeah I was gonna say if your

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name's a Henrik Paul Palma palm grin palm grin he's a Swedish white

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nationalist and holocaust denying vlogger red ice in the last month has

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put out videos with titles like quote they want you dead white man and quote

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why a little bit why interracial relationships are pushed on white women

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and weirdly a tutorial on how to make beef jerky that is still somehow racist

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I watched it all right this is the white way to make beef jerky it's very weird

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I don't pull it look if you pull this Jamaican jerk chicken bullshit that's

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not even jerky I'm gonna tell you that right now that's like a combination of

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spices what are you even fucking talking about I've seen my share of like cooking

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tutorials and stuff like this yeah this one was like who is this is this is

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racist I recommend everyone go watch it I think you'll agree with me feels

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fucked up so when he was on red ice TV he asserted that white supremacy isn't

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real and it's actually a plot of the Jews quote quote the only thing that

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makes white supremacy a thought in people's mind is the media and the media

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is controlled by who should have been whom the only thing that makes white

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supremacy a thing is music and that's controlled by who should have been whom

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the movies Hollywood who controls that black people don't control that white

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people don't control that our banking system when we talk about people got

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sold out banks got bailed out well who controls these banks the minute you say

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gay trans Jew it's off limits so I already know that my country United

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States of America is gonna become an Islamic Jewish LGBT dominant state cool

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I don't think the Islam that he's afraid of is cool with the LGBT state that he's

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also afraid of he's afraid of a lot I would like it if these guys just kind of

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like sat down like really worked out the fears that they have like the the Venn

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diagrams that they exist with it you know like I'm cool if you're I'm not

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cool I'm just saying like it's it's it tracks ideologically see that you're

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afraid of Muslims that'll never cuz they're like because the hard line no

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that doesn't happen for a very specific reason these people aren't interested in

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reality that's true they're interested in spreading a fear like as if they if

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this hotel Jesus were to sit down and think about like what am I advocating

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does this make sense does does a B and C of the things I'm afraid of could they

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possibly coexist in a state I should be afraid of right he would have to sit

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back and be like I got to get a better argument and he can't no that's not

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happening he's not interested in that it's not about that it's about branding

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it's about getting a cult like Twitter following right it's about what he wrote

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a fucking book about god we should read that book he didn't write a book about

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culture he didn't write a book about how it's important to free yourself from the

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shackles of the globalists or whatever he wrote a book specifically that he

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sells at books by Brian calm be our YA n if you look for books by Brian spelled

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br a what I and it's just a it's just a different Brian that's brain br a I am

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no be our I ad that's what I meant you said be our AI add twice whatever if you

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go to that it's a Amazon what do you get it books by brain calm now we gotta find

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that out books by crying but like the book that he's selling that he's trying

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to push is about getting attention to yourself it's not about the substantive

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issues right and that leads me to believe that that's what he's more

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interested in and at the same time spreading some of these very deeply

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bigoted opinions that he has and or if you are a opinions are a way to get that

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attention in the cult like fall I was gonna say is he like a he's like a

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comedian well yes he's credited all the time he was on Laura Ingram show and he

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was credited as a comedian yeah but he put out that viral video I don't know if

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he does stand-up comedy right I don't know anything about that yeah we should

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look we should work no but to that point if you are a black man looking to get as

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much viral attention as you possibly can perhaps taking the positions that people

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who have power want you to take in order to take advantage of the fact that you

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are black saying all of these things discredit the actual voices who are

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working for the people the workers of the world the working class then it's a

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solid strategy to get yours well I'm saying like it took Alexandra Cortez

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Alexandria Alexandria Alexandria Alexandria Cortez okay Zia Cortez it

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took her winning this race in order for people to actually talk about her in the

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media yeah and yeah the intercept was like hey go her and the rest of the

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world was like we don't need a right it took the actual winning of the primary

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race in order for it to become a voice that's amplified but if you go this route

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it's very easy still get attention Candace Owens makes millions of dollars

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if you if you're nonsense if you're running a scam you can find your niche

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you know like you can find it so hotep Jesus wrote a blog post called

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anti-racism is worse than racism and why Dragon Ball is the exemplary of this

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fact where he says quote what's so wrong with white people saying white lives

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matter if you say black lives matter doesn't that open the door for its

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antithesis now this is dumb but on one level I respect it kind of because it's

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pretty amazing that even he understands the people who are saying white lives

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matter are intending to be the antithesis of black lives matter people

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who say white lives matter would say that is not the case they would say all

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lives matter right as a way of stealthing the now white lives matter

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more argument to the table he's at least like he's like bringing to the table

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like yes they are being racist but I respect that all right so I mean yeah

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they're trying to be a less funny version of Patrice O'Neill on some

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level rarer nonsense so he goes on a quote when white people scream white

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power or white lives matter black people get offended I don't I'm proud of these

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whites it's self-determination and I'll gladly applaud any group that exhibits

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self-determination my counterpoint to that is that historically the people who

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yell white power are also the ones who are really into hanging black men for

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looking at white women yeah so it doesn't usually mean like a I love being

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white and I like to celebrate eat a brat it's not that it's usually white power

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against you yes it's usually the people who will throw an n-word at you yeah

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that's which to that point I three black congressman just introduced the maybe

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lynching should be a hate crime bill it's 2018 gee 2018 we should have

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already been on that one a long time ago seems like it also there's three so he

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also goes on to say if black protest if black anti-protest groups and antifa

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didn't show up in Charlottesville the truth is none of us would be talking

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about Charlottesville if you picture white nationalists as a fire anti

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protest groups would be the fan that intensifies it my counterpoint to that

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is nope or you could say if you picture people who are tired of being murdered

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by white supremacists as a fire then white supremacists are the people who

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are fanning it well the night before the Charlottesville rally there were the

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fucking Nazis yelling blood and soil and ranting around with their tiki torches

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and what-have-you and they're what what what are the Gator shirts yeah sure

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crocs hackies yeah Trump outfits God yeah so I mean and also like this really

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doesn't take into consideration that what happens with movements like

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fascism and white nationalism and white supremacy is that when it's unopposed it

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grows and when it's emboldened it gets a foothold and when that happens everyone

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gets hurt white people get hurt black people get hurt gays get hurt everyone

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across the spectrum gets hurt and the thing gypsies historically yeah I should

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say Romani yes me well and even that is but the thing the thing about that that

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is really really important in terms of like that don't feed the trolls

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narrative is it is a tiny tiny part of America that is out and out white

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supremacist but because they have gained such a foothold the Republican bloc yeah

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because they're associated with that are playing the team sports yep like my

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parents are not really because they don't even understand it right white

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supremacist no but they're on the team they're de facto so so they're like well

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yeah of course we support all these white supremacists because we're not on

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your team right your team has to be wrong yeah so I mean yeah now we're

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white supremacist now we're actually we've tricked ourselves into supporting

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this thing exactly and we can't get away from it exactly so it's it is it is

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important that it's just a foothold and the foothold was all it took in a team

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sport situation and that's why the anti approach like the protesting groups the

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anti rally groups are essential or crucial because they are the people who

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are there who are saying no yeah this isn't okay yeah those people need to be

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rebuked at every turn well Dan we're not being civil we should be we should allow

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them to gain their foothold and overtake our entire country make a fair point in

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order to maintain a dialogue with them that allows us to communicate and have

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them take over but then they're nicer to us sure so this has been a little bit of

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a look at who hotep Jesus is he is clearly a Twitter buzz marketing scam

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kind of guy who sells a book about that stuff which he's doing quite well and I

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mean one of the goals of doing well well one of the goals of his book is like it

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tells you how you can use influencers for your advantage him being on Alex

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Jones's show and being like hey wouldn't it be great if we yelled together is

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exactly him doing that oh yeah using Alex Jones in a way that's probably

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spelled out in his book oh no he's nailing yeah absolutely he's going he's

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probably gonna take that clip and use it as a selling point for his book right

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you know like that's that's the kind of hustle he's in while at the same time

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he's pitching this black nationalism and white nationalism should merge and then

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we can all live separately hating each other which I find to be a very

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unpleasant and on that's an unattractive future I I see I I'm gonna go with he's

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being disingenuous I don't think I'm not sure he is but I will say that he's

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stupid and we'll deal with that in this next one is it accurate they don't plan

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parenthood they plan death and if you look at what they provide for women period the

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only thing they provide for women are prenatal vitamins the rest is abortion

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they should just call it the abortion clinic they're not planning any

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parenthood they're planning death and what are they doing and what do they

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stick them they take them and they put them in Pepsi that's what they do with

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the baby they put them in Pepsi they sell them they sell the body parts they

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sell the stem cells and then they make money off of the black baby you drink

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babies plan parenthood makes more money off black babies than black people do

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I'm sure that I don't know I don't know how you could make money off of black

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babies I don't know what the black community would like to make off black

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babies understand I don't know we've talked like six figures like what are

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you hoping to make off of your black baby we've talked about the Pepsi thing

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about the idea that there are like there's research that is done that

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ends up using random endometrial cell right I remember the coke versus Pepsi

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taste test it's all it's all a load of bullshit so he's making a pretty bold

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claim there that all they do is give people prenatal vitamins and stuff like

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that hey it's too vague it's too vague for me to really work with and

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thankfully hotep Jesus drops this on us next all right real quick before we get

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into that I just want to touch on this one step so check this out right

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this is according to Planned Parenthood they have seven to seventeen thousand

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four hundred and nineteen instances of prenatal care services versus three

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million three point five million STD tests and three hundred and twenty three

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thousand abortions right so prenatal care services only account for about

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five percent of their services only five percent of their services your plan

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parenthood and black people are backing it this is an atrocity I did a story

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about this it's called Planned Parenthood wants to kill black people in

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hotep nation calm nope they don't so what do you think about this a broad

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question I admit I think it is an interesting I suppose I suppose it is

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the the like feather in the cap of white racists trying to be not racist while

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supporting racist policies like I've heard my dad me through that I've heard

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my dad quote that like did you know that Planned Parenthood kills more black

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people than you know like that whole thing where it's like Alex does that all

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the time yeah that reverend childress on yeah yeah no you're couching your white

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supremacy in like care you're and it's it seems you're calling giving black

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women health care yeah yeah exactly when when you do stuff like that you're

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implying in some way that people are forced into it or something like that

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which is ludicrous and that's a brilliant dumb thing to say because that

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assuages the am I a racist I think I am that white racist have well it's like

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it's it's trying to repackage a belief that you already have because you're mad

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and hate women which is gotta get rid of Planned Parenthood and now you're

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repackaging that into like also I'm pro black no what it what it is is it's God

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it's the it's the God saying that black people should be slaves that's what it

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is it's that all over again that like that like do you know no no you don't

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understand it makes them happier if they're slaves submit to the authority

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and that's what they really that's what you really should be doing that's the

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way to be happy don't don't fall into this trap of like oh yeah freedom but

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you're bad at it like it's it's condescending it's racist and it's all

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couched in this language of like you're being neither of those well that's an

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interesting approach that you have to it because the truth of this is very

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different and that is that hotep Jesus is getting this information from a video

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put out by a group called live-action they publicized these statistics in a

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dishonest way completely out of context specifically to attack Planned Parenthood

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well it's true that a report came out covering the time of 2014 to 2015 they

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reported that from eight Planned Parenthood locations that were surveyed

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seventy thousand four hundred and nineteen instances of prenatal services

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were reported however it does take into account that not all of the Planned

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Parenthood locations in this country are equipped to provide prenatal care huh

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and that is not really the primary function the Planned Parenthood offers

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huh and it is never claimed to be what they offer huh it is only a thing that's

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available at certain Planned Parenthood locations that have these specific

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doctors and the the resources in order to afford prenatal care that's not say

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when you think about it prenatal care is really hard to give and it's not their

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primary objective further these statistics are a classic case of

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cherry-picking assuming that the seventeen thousand four hundred nineteen

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number does cover all the prenatal care the Planned Parenthood offers again the

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report was only covering a cross-section of some of the locations it was like

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eight out of the 56 that they surveyed something along those lines and so

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they're probably more than that in the country but it wasn't caught up in

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there's yeah yeah yeah but assuming that that's all of them let's assume that yeah

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hotep then compares that to the approximately three hundred and twenty

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four thousand abortions reported in that time frame nationally huh by Planned

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Parenthood which he then uses to assert the prenatal care is only five percent

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of the services offered by Planned Parenthood which he's trying to do is

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get the listener to assume that abortion must be most of what they offer this is

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not true he even admits when he's talking about that that the report

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reflect the Planned Parenthood offered three point five million STD tests but

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one point out is that in addition to that they provided six hundred and eighty

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two thousand cancer screenings and almost three million individual cases

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of contraception services these people like Alex Jones like hotep Jesus who

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make these attacks on Planned Parenthood fucking know this they know damn well

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what abortion uh what Planned Hood what Planned Parenthood who slept with the

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tongue yeah they know damn well what Planned Parenthood does and they insist

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on lying about it not because they so sincerely want to get rid of abortion

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because Planned Parenthood offers an essential resource whereby women can be

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in control of their bodies and thus their own lives they use images of

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fetuses and terror stories about Kermit Gosnell purposefully purely to further

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their real goal which is depriving women of agency so all this information that

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hotep Jesus is using comes from a group called live-action live-action is an

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anti-abortion group started by then 15 year old Lilla Rose who got her start

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posing as a pregnant teenager in James O'Keefe stunts posing she pretended to

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be pregnant she was a teenager I guess half of it was true now imagine if she

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was pregnant I bet she would be on the other side I bet you wouldn't be going

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along with James O'Keefe school she would have been just going to Planned

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Parenthood that's a fascinating thing I didn't even so she hung out with James

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O'Keefe they made a couple of videos and then she met a guy named David

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Daleiden who we've talked about before he's the guy who ran the Center for

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Medical Progress stunts oh those are great that 2015 that Alex Jones was

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completely tricked by they nailed us he then became Lilla's director of research

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that's not good as is the case with all of the the work of these involved

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parties O'Keefe and died Alan Daleiden the finished edited product is always a

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complete misrepresentation of the raw footage as proven by courts many people

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also beyond courts even like some of this is just people who have seen all

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the raw footage yeah they're like this is absolutely not the case you're

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misrepresenting everything yeah that's the case with with live-action that's

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the case with James O'Keefe with Project Veritas that's the case of the Center

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for Medical Progress it's all the same shit so hotep Jesus is just coming in

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misrepresenting this stuff like even if he wasn't getting this information very

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clearly from an anti-abortion propaganda outlet right he's still

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misrepresenting it in terms of like the main thing that a Planned Parenthood is

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about is preventative care yeah they're not like they offer prenatal services in

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some places where they can that that's not their main emphasis that's for like

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doctors and hospitals yeah that's for ob-gyn's where they practice it's about

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preventative care and when you look at the almost three million cases of

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contraceptive services that they offer when you look at and even take away at

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the reproductive aspect of it six hundred and eighty two thousand cancer

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screenings that are crucial for women crucial for cervical cancer it's insane

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like the idea that you would take him and when he wants to talk about all this

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stuff and say like oh prenatal care is only 5% of this stuff I mean what

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percent is the abortions when you have three hundred thousand or so abortions

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and then three million contraceptive services three point five million STD

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tests six hundred and eighty thousand cancer screenings all that dwarfs the

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abortions that they do but you don't want to talk about that you don't want

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to talk about that because that's not what you care about it's not what they

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care about they care about disenfranchising women and I know why

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it's because this next clip straight white men straight black men are under

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attack we have become public enemy number one in the eyes of the because

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we're the potential leaders well because we are the potential leaders because we

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are the ones that can actually protect people from the globalist so they have

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to get us out the box out the pink ASAP and they're using feminists to do this

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okay they are using they're using nobody is nobody's ever ever capable of

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acknowledging that women have agency nope doesn't seem like it nope and it

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it's it's it's condescending just to them like it like you could I mean your

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your obvious point is like well we don't want to have women we don't want women

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to have agency over this you just say that yeah they could just say that yeah

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that's and that's exactly what their base wants to hear I mean it would be

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interesting to see like what kind of support it would get I mean it wouldn't

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pull great well I mean the the support that separating children from their

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families get is yeah conservatives are fine with you saying whatever it is that

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you know why are that that's what that's what we've learned that'd be what we've

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learned from this you've it you've introduced a fascinating thought to me

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which is something that I regrettably I the amount of time I spend with this

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stuff you'd think this thought would dawn on me but you have just made me

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realize that probably if you pulled a bunch of really distasteful things like

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women shouldn't choose stuff there's yeah oh you'd probably see the same

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numbers very disappointing numbers same numbers white women would probably

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drastically they would have 50% whatever whatever Doug Jones got in his election

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what was it like 57% of white women right that's exactly how many women

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would support women not being allowed to choose Doug Jones was on the good side

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yeah exactly okay you're talking about oh no I'm talking about the other guy my

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bad my bad they you shall not be named yeah by the by the hair of his neck yeah

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yeah I don't know man that's a really fucked up a thought experiment I

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actually would be interested to see that I don't know if anybody's pulling that

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sort of stuff like the idea of like black shouldn't have rights we should

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all live separately why wouldn't women shouldn't be able to choose when men say

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otherwise it seems like that's such a more important gaze a phase like pull

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those sorts of things and yeah because I imagine the numbers would be we wouldn't

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want to look at them yeah can we like let's not pull dog whistle questions

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let's just pull the questions that these people let's just maybe this guy like

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why yeah like why are we why are they dog whistling we already have a

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president who's like okay the the Central Park five was innocent fine but

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they we should still kill him so like why credit I don't think he's dog

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whistling he's dog whistling a little on Alex's show because he knows he's

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there's more people listening he's influence but in his yeah he's trying to

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get the influence yeah yeah like in terms of his actual stuff that he puts

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out I don't think that there's any bones about like I don't I think he's being

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very clear I hate the Jews they're behind everything right and white

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nationalism is fucking cool black nationalism and white nationalism should

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merge team let's all live separately yeah so I don't think he's dog whistling at

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all except again being good at media yeah he's savvy yeah yeah yeah whereas

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Alex's whole entire existence is about yeah just just stop it everybody's

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proven that they're fine with it so just fucking go along let us let us just at

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least see what it is because I guarantee that yeah just like it just like I'm

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saying 57% of white women are like I'm against white women being able to choose

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things we should be in the home barefoot and pregnant I mean what do you what

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else what else do you say at this point because you can't you can't possibly

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believe that women should have the right to choose anything if you're voting for

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the people you're voting for it does seem that way it seems that way but you

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also have to consider like the willful ignorance of so many folk you know like

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right that part you know you take you take it off quality away from it a

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little bit and of course there's so many people who just vote on hot-button

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trigger issues right right I don't know man it's a mess it's a fucking mess I

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don't know what I don't know what we're doing I'm I'm that's the that's the

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thing there's just there's just no communicate you can't do it you can't

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fucking do it let's bail let's let's damn I've been thinking while you and I

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are officially seceding from the Union knowledge fight knowledge fight look

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first independent Republic sovereign podcast of Dan's apartment you try and

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call the White House again how do I register call the White House or call

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Larry Nichols don't call Larry Nichols no I don't want to call it's not too

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late it's I don't want to call Larry Nichols I want to know what he don't

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want to talk I just don't want to talk if we're gonna do this we have to plan

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in advance I have to call him and he's at a bowling here but I can't I can't

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just call him out of the blue the last time we set up a time we did the whole

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thing all right look Dan you don't know how media works I have to first I have

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to call all the Jews together they have to get into a meeting room it's so many

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people Netanyahu's wife is there she's the corrupt monster so we have to do

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that whole thing then I get to call Larry Nichols so this this episode has

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been mostly Alex doing his T's work his edge play about the Supreme Court that's

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a great way of putting it and we've ended up with the orgasm that is Andrew

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Napolitano certainly hope that is not what comes to pass but I imagine it

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probably is I think I think I think it'll probably be floated but I really

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hope everyone's smart enough to just be like let's shut down the government not

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anymore that's fucking stop not anymore but we'll see I don't know I'm

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everybody's a coward under Nancy Pelosi the world cannot I mean I say the world

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can't get darker but it's certainly oh it's on its way I can get Oh Dan the

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world gets darkest before the dawn no it doesn't and that dawn expression is

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surprisingly climate change so the world will get very dark and then we will all

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be burned alive by the light now so it's interesting that you brought up earlier

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the Central Park five because how can that possibly come up because we have

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one more clip left of Alex talking to hotep Jesus and this boy this is one of

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the lamest things I've ever heard the black community going back 30 40 years

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knew that Trump was actually just pro everybody likes everybody and that and

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that and that yeah and then and then they yeah now try to demonize him from

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the corporate level but deep down everybody that's known Trump knows that's

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not true yes absolutely the black community knows it's not true for the

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most part for them oh boy black community hmm I'd like to like to pull

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the black community that we're not allowed to live in his buildings I'd

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like to pull the black community certainly who are aware of the Central

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Park right but who was it that pointed out that the first time that Trump ever

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was in the newspaper was because the government because Nixon's Department of

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Justice was like whoa you're being way too racist much housing yeah Nixon

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Nixon's that the godfathers of redlining uh-huh was like Jesus this is

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you farthest yeah Wow that's his whole career that's all life yeah and all the

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white supremacy and everything you've always heard from him over the years

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over and over again about eugenics over about his genes being superior and yeah

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and stuff like that like the idea that thirty years ago everybody in his

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apartments come on I love you but out there hey man hey you know what it's

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that it's that it's that mentality that Alex believed like it does come like

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this is another point where I think we're gonna have to just suck it up and

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and swallow a brutal pill that is this isn't hypocritical because this still

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follows Alex Jones's belief in like free association so like I think he would say

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it's not racist that Trump doesn't want black people living in his buildings

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right that's the right of free association it's no big deal civil

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right that doesn't exist no boring yeah cool LBJ was terrible bah bah bah killed

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Kennedy he did kill Kennedy and then what did he jerk off over his corpse I

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believe that was the on the plane something along those yeah that's why

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his brains gone yep anyway this has been our attempt to talk about modern-day

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Alex Jones I feel like none of us enjoyed this all that much although I

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love the mythology part I will say no you did love I'll say that that is one

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of the only things I enjoyed I love it when he brings up something that I can

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be like that you can only sink your teeth into now not just with research

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but with like years-long an in-depth study you should have seen so I'm doing

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this in-depth breakdown of none dare to call it a conspiracy yes and at one

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point in it Gary Allen the writer of none dare call it conspiracy talks about

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Diogenes and he talks about how he was going around Athens looking for one

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honest man which is the myth about Diogenes right because we all knows day

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for mighty bullshit it's so much fun whenever people pull that out because I

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know Greek I can translate the Greek that it comes from and it does not say

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that he's absolutely not saying that Diogenes was a fucking weirdo in the

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same way that Socrates was a complete weirdo but yeah it was even worse he

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would like masturbate at the marketplace and like scream at people he was into

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cannibalism he didn't believe in private property rights right he was just a

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fucking out there weirdo right and when he the the line that everyone

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mistranslates the I'm going around looking for one honest man what it

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really translates to is something that I would describe as what a crazy person

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would say he was walking around at night with a lantern looking for a man that's

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it the word for honest and just in Greek is diakos and it is not in that sentence

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it is just entropos which is I'm looking for a man which is what you would say

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like if you're caught out somewhere where you're not supposed to be what are

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you doing looking for a guy I'm looking for one hungry man I'm looking for a guy

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I need somebody to eat with right I am looking for a man to eat yeah so I just

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love all looking for a man so whenever things like that like fall into my

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sphere I really get excited about it but the rest of stuff is like yeah fuck all

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this yeah I don't care like I don't there's nothing for me to debunk there's

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nothing for us to talk about in terms of Andrew Napolitano being a Supreme Court

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justice other than us saying hope it hope that's not the case yeah because I

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don't know I don't know what sources he's going from obviously it's just

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talking to Roger Stone yeah of course I can't debunk his conversations with

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Roger Stone it's useless all I can do yeah that's like him saying that I our

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PIO is up for the Supreme Court just might as well be yeah fucking sure right

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there's no there's no bottom we don't have a bottom anymore no no but but that

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the value of the past when we go over the past the value of it is that we get

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to have distance we get to have time from his narratives so we can see how

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things have played out is this the case was he completely full of shit we can

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find the things that he was referencing we can see how it all worked out we can

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see I was gonna say what he's right about but it's almost never the case now

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but like you there there is that like perspective we can take on it whereas

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modern day stuff like we run into an issue where he's lying all the time we

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know it it's what he does that is what we we know but he's saying all this

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stuff that we can't prove or disprove it's this mid-ground nonsense where

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we're just like all right he's saying this I don't know show though it's it is

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I feel important to share in the contrast like it like if you if you are

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preemptively or perhaps even somewhat defensively saying that we are doing a

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disservice by covering the present I don't because we're not no I'm not no

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you're not I don't mean to you're not you're not saying that I I misspoke on

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that I I mean just more like this is why we're not covering the present I feel

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like it is still important for us as a show to go back into the past which

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provides context for the president and then we can come back to the present

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what once a week or whatever and see what see what the difference is because

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you can just hear it if you listen to this episode versus our last 2009

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episode you will instantly know there's a huge difference and yet it's the exact

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same and here is why and here is where and that only gives you more ammunition

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there's some there's there is value to it I'm not I'm not saying we should never

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do it it is just it's a situation where I mean I'm a human I'm a human being and

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it's not like it pains me to listen to modern-day stuff it just bores me you

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know what I mean like yeah I think that a lot of people on the the Facebook

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group have the impression in their head that it's like I get like all up and

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like I can't handle or not that that might be too much but like I'm like it

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bothers me to listen to modern-day Alex and it doesn't it just feels like I'm

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wasting time you know like I that's it I just feel like I listen to an episode

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like this and I have this this takes three hours to listen to and then edit

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takes even more time and then us doing this and in it the only value really is

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like we met hotep Jesus that was nice Alex misrepresents mythology like

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beyond that all the other stuff is just him yelling into the void it's nonsense

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it's just sound and fury signifying nothing at the same time we're just

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yelling into the void no totally but why can't we yell into the void with the

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guy who's yelling into the void well like fucking Goku but because here's why

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because it gets repetitive yeah like it's the same stuff we've yelled into

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the void about over and over again we're still trying to do a show and when it's

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like he says like the the globalists are central banking cartels blah blah blah

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you know like we've already talked about this yeah we can we can do it again if

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you want I want novelty I want to learn and I want more like fresh content for

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the show right I enjoy as much like I don't mind like I'm saying I don't mind

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listening to present-day stuff and I don't mind covering it from time to time

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but like it takes hours of my day that are fucking wasted when I listen to like

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the other episodes that I listened to that we didn't cover like that's a

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that's a three-hour waste of my time no I I totally get it I I can't I'm not mad

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about this no no I know I'm not saying that you're more saying that for the

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listeners I I get what I know we've been doing this long enough that I know what

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you're right no I I feel the same way about the right-wing outrage like any

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time I check Twitter or read the news where it's like Fox News said I'm out I

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don't give a shit they're boring they're boring to me because they're just gonna

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say if you if you if you were like what's your Fox News headline I'd be

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like blah blank is evil because blank and liberals blank like it doesn't

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fucking matter they're playing mad libs I get it I I understand that like

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communist mad libs yeah exactly and and here's a further piece that do need to

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really take into consideration Alex Jones in his worldview what I mean by

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that is marketing paradigm is he has to be a really great way of putting it he

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has to be under threat there always has to be a threat otherwise he can't sell

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his shit yeah in the same way that like think about this he sells disaster

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supplies and stuff like that if the end actually does he sell a year's worth of

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food though well yes he does oh yeah what's the bonus on it though he doesn't

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he doesn't do ads for it on the show anymore but you can buy by a bucket of

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food you buy buckets of food not the same shape of bucket is Jim Baker well

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that's good branding is important flatter but branding is important Jim

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Baker's got that round bucket but I choose Jim Baker's bucket this is

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something that I've been thinking about since we did that Jim Baker episode

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especially and that is that the con of disaster preparedness only works until

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the disaster comes like once it happens you no longer have a cash flow right so

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the your disaster is shared the same way everybody else is right like if you sell

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survival radios and like Jim Baker's big old potato buckets and stuff like that

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if shit goes down your supply chain is busted everything is destroyed you can't

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make money anymore the gig is up and now you are left to live on all that

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millions of survival food rations you have at your Pleasant Valley see now

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that kind of does work for me though right hold on okay so the game because

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we know these are fucking con men and aren't acting off reality or truth in

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any way they know that it's not in their best interest for disaster to actually

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happen right it's only in their best interest to make people scared the

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disaster is about to happen right so the reason I'm bringing this up is that the

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game that Alex Jones is playing now in his marketing paradigm which I'm going

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to now replace that's a perfect for real that is the perfect phrase to replace

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worldview with marketing paradigm that's a great way of putting what he needs to

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do now because he's shifted his entire operation into this Trump is the king of

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the anti globalist except for that one night that I said that he was shoving

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Isis up his dirty asshole when I was drunk on air and except for that one

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night where he said he was a globalist well that was so since he's pivoted to

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that model what he has to do now is a maintenance game what he has to do is

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you know make fear where you can but it's just maintenance so like he plays

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this like get get afraid of Alexandria Ocasio-cortez get get scared of that

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because he knows like on one level he knows that it's it's a threat the

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democratic socialism is rising and that they are gaining in membership and stuff

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like that but he knows that like you know what a little bit down the road if

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there's more democratic socialists that's fucking good for his business

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yeah so he knows like let's get a little bit scared about this but let's not try

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and get her killed for anything like that because then that's going to be

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negative to our interest he's in like when I watched I've watched like three

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shows from this week in terms of like trying to make this episode and the

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thing that I come away from it with is that he is in a pathetic holding pattern

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he's just like worse than I've seen in years from him there is just a like and

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I know that in the past you've said he doesn't know how to win and that's

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that's probably a piece of it and the fact that he's on the winning team in

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terms of like they control all of the government yeah yeah you don't know how

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to it's it's it's he's it's really I'm having a very difficult time expressing

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this because what it comes down to is you have a conspiracy theorist

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propagandist who's now his job is keep the base riled but maintain the status

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quo yeah you know what I'm saying yeah and it's it's boring it's boring and

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pathetic when I watch it I don't know I don't do you know what do you know

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what's fascinating about that cuz if he cuz look sorry yeah if he wanted to live

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his principles as we pretend he has over and over again right right he should be

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saying kill Alexandria or case you oh yeah absolutely he should be saying that

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she is the biggest threat to democracy and someone should take her out she's a

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globalist communist who is trying to come after your guns beyond global yeah

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exactly the globalists aren't necessarily even the socialist communist

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folk you know like he would like I don't know I just everything everything about

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the modern day just pumps me out cuz it's so pathetic it's so pathetic as it

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it's not like I want him to advocate death for people but he should like yeah

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if I agree if he believed a damn thing he says he believes he should be out

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calling for blood I agree and he's not because he knows that's not how I make

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money yeah and it just I just think who cares cuz the other thing too is like as

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we see all this information that we talked about at the beginning of the

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show like Kim Jong-un is is making more nuclear tests Roger Stone the the walls

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are closing in on him things are happening it like information just keeps

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seeping out nigga right picture is becoming clearer and clearer of what

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really happened not just in the 2016 election but for years before that yeah

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and Alex kind of knows and he's like yeah but to to and and this is a

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conversation that you don't want to have and you really don't want me to start

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maybe so so let's find out let's see uh yeah so should we calling for blood yeah

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like realistically put it put it all together all right we have a very quiet

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we have an illegitimate government that was assisted by the by a foreign power

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not least of which was put in by a minority of the country that was

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illegitimately stolen by how much fucking bullshit all of this

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gerrymandering all of this shit we have a Supreme Court justice that should

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never have been there because it was a fucking destroyed by a goddamn ability

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yeah exactly like all of this shit put together it's important to remember that

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the American Revolution happened because people had to pay like two cents more in

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tax like that's all it took to repent you because no that it was all it took

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guns because they took all it took that's literally all it took yeah like

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legitimately I am bummed out by these protests it's incredible it's fucking

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incredible to see millions of people walk throughout this entire country

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supporting immigrants rights mmm but we saw the same thing at the women's March

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yep we saw the same thing at however fucking many March we thought we saw

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maybe world records of turnouts world records of turnouts and now here the

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fuck we are flash forward to the present we are most likely going to have a

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Supreme Court justice put in who undo undoes yeah access to abortion so

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explain to me how it's not justified that we call for blood like in the

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American just in just in pure American history I would say I would say from our

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perspective we can't because that's illegal that's technically true it would

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I'm calling for blood politically right I mean there there is that like I mean

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we don't have sponsors so I mean who know really gives we don't we say but I

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do think it's probably we're on the wrong side of the law if we advocate

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violence against anybody what what is it a year before we're already on the wrong

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side of the law just for saying mean things about Trump probably but here

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here's the here's the only and and I know I'm a fucking middle guy the oh no

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I mean look it's it's hard to be a middle guy when the guy to the left of

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you is saying let's murder people okay I'm closer to that than the middle no

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but the reason that I have this like hesitance about what you're saying is

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that like I know that there's a lot of people who listen to our show I don't

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think anyone would hurt anybody but I do I do want I worry about the rhetoric

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that you're presenting only because I don't think that the targets would be

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the right targets yeah if that makes sense I don't think that innocent people

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should be hurt and that is what would end up happening if any organization not

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just our podcast right Alex if Alex did it the wrong people would get hurt now

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it would end up in a situation where very innocent people are collateral

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damage of some bullshit which is probably right-minded right there should

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be blood in the streets right or the situation that we have on our hands now

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Alex believes there should be blood on the streets because the globalists and

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the 1913 taking over the but like the wrong people would get hurt in both

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equations but I don't like that that's why I'm in the middle in terms of this

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stuff in my defense here is not saying that you're I mean I know I know I know

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I'm we're you're we're we're both so polite and civil to each other uh in my

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defense I have never advocated for wholesale anything and in fact at the to

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the point I have constantly and consistently made the difference between

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a nation and a government I don't know exactly I don't think that I don't think

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that there should be blood in the streets in that fucking whatever

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conservative stereotype you want to believe because I'll be goddamn if there

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aren't a lot of them we should find Scott Pruitt find a tall oak tree yes

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yes the Koch brothers should have their homes burned down round if there was a

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Justin loving God they would not be allowed to go outside while at the same

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time their house would be burned down with them inside of it that is the

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reality of the situation and the fact that every day instead of that we get

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fucking people murdering journalists see that says to me the very obvious thing

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which is that one side has been fighting a war against us for the past 1520 of

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whatever America for the past all of America and we have never ever fought

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back against the real enemy right we're not doing it's a war of aggression

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versus a war of attrition the two sides are playing different games and we can't

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play different games anymore they won their game it's we're losing ours it

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sounds like what you're saying is it's time for the long arm of the law to put

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a few of them down send them all to their maker I mean realistically use

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Toby Keith lyrics I know I know it was I know I was I was really trying hard to

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ignore it not as a not as an insult to you no I I mean here's here's genuine

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genuinely what I would prefer to happen I would prefer an Alexandria Ocasio

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Cortez become an attorney general of fucking New York State right and because

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what do you think that the Koch brothers haven't committed fucking crimes in New

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York City Dan how long did it take don't don't don't you dare do it I didn't I'm

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gonna give you plus one and then I'm gonna take it away immediately but I

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didn't do you like how long did it take you how long did it take us to find out

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that Alex was committing a crime like a concrete crime it yeah probably like

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six months right it took some investigation yeah but also I was so

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elected Attorney General that's gonna spend six months investigating the Koch

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brothers from day one you can fuck them up I probably could have figured out in

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the first month if I had been if you've been pointed yeah I didn't I wasn't that

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wasn't what I was trying to do exactly if you really and and I'm not gonna lie

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if you really wanted to take Soros down fucking start investigating because if

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you're a probably a crime if you're a billionaire there's a crime there's a

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crime that happened yeah you'll probably find a crime the only thing that I find

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so distasteful and dissatisfying about all this is like all the crimes that

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Alex and his ilk and commenters on our website about it have pointed out like

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all of the crimes they allege he's committed aren't real like I'm sure

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there are things that he's done that if it's shady as fuck right but they aren't

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the things that he's accused of right I don't give a shit if they and and

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fucking put him in prison to them exactly I'm not I'm not here to defend

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him exactly and and Hillary to you find it you find a cry you find a crime with

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Hillary fuck off but I don't give a shit you find a crime bill should be in jail

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these people should be in jail this is a team effort by the rich over our all

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we're saying here this is this is gone this is gone way off the rails way off

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the rails didn't we wrap up the episode like an hour ago I think we should you

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know everybody should shake off you know that's good that's good here's what we

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can't do ever again we can't have another Solon and that's what we need I

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know I keep bringing up Solon because I think he's the best ruler of all time I

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can't happen I know I know that it can't but it is the thing that we need and

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that thing is never going to happen and no and it's weird that the way that you

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present yourself in your hypothetical dictatorship is very similar to him in

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terms of like he was like I'm going to make these rules and then I'm leaving

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I'm out kill me there should be real consequences for me saying so you have

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that parallel yeah but we need someone to have another skaizak thesia the

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shaking off of burdens right have we need people to be forgiven of dirty debt

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we need that yes yes that that sort of thing needs to happen because back in

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the days of ancient Greece it was people who sold themselves into slavery and now

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we have modern equivalences of it we have absolutely modern I mean just

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fucking short-term cash for car loans like what else is that there's so many

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people who are underwater because of college like fucking there's but but the

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reason that I can't have Solon is because Trump is he sold himself as Solon

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right in the same way that opulism live exactly in the same way that we can't be

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like they're coming for your guns and batter and all that shit because the

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hard right has taken that territory in the same way Trump pretended to be that

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Solon he pretended to be that I am the guy who is going to fix everything

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because that's really what you want because you know so ultimately no I was

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like I don't want to do this I know but that's what Trump was selling himself

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yes which is why he did better at it right and I'm talking about so long

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because I know fucking Grecian history well Solon did fight the Kraken they did

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yeah yeah with Liam Neeson man I don't know I don't know I don't know how to

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put a button on this but I think where we spun off way too far was the idea

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that you want blood on the streets and not want but it's weird that it's not

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happening at the very least I'm gonna go with Pruitt I feel like Pruitt should be

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murdered in front of everybody he's the most corrupt person I think I've ever

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seen that's incredible he's really killing it on the guy I almost admire

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him well what so corrupt will we come back to now what we're talking about is

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now this entire thing is just this entire thing by that I mean the last two

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years has been the normalization of corruption all this like corruption is

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just the status quo Betsy Devos through it yeah as people get away with stuff it

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becomes more okay that other people get away with stuff and you get away with

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bigger stuff and it just keeps going and just keeps going and that's what I think

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that's the trend that we're going to see now unfortunately this is the part that

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sucks because like if you had a situation where you had just a fucking

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business Trump like a Trump who is just like I want to be corrupt as fuck and

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make a ton of money yeah you could end up in a really harsh kleptocracy where

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you have like the family businesses at the expense of all other contracts

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making billions of dollars and stuff yeah yeah that would not be a good state

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of affairs for things to be in the problem is the merging of that with

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people like the Stephen Millers of the world right and the merging of that like

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corruption is cool mentality with overt white nationalism white separatism white

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supremacy right those sorts of things and you know what fuck I don't give a

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shit let's just lay it out everyone who's afraid of Barack Obama being a

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black supremacist were wrong but even if they were right it wouldn't have

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mattered in the same way that it would matter that Trump is a white supremacist

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great because Barack Obama even as president would have such a tough road

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to hoe you know like he would have a really hard time in terms of getting

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that black supremacy up the hill yeah like Atlas there you go I knew that was

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coming pushing that up the bottom of that boulder up the hill and the reason

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that it's so scary to have white supremacy merged with power is because

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it's so already there and such already the state of affairs like we've just

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never seen it before we've seen white supremacy merged with power you know

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what it is everybody knows what it is and we just are afraid to say it because

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we feel like we all of us not all of us I mean obviously there's there's you and

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me and the policy wonks and so many other brilliant people the people who

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are marching like amazing people but the the status quo is terrified of

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acknowledging that because if you acknowledge that if you're Nancy Pelosi

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and you go out and you say we are seeing white supremacy merged with power we've

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seen this before then all of a sudden everything that she has ever believed it

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behooves you to act in a much more severe way than you are willing to act

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if you are Nancy Pelosi we are seeing white supremacy merged with not just

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power but monetary power and that monetary power also supports me and

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centralized power exactly and this terrible surveillance state that we've

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created over the years yeah everything blends into each other and it's it's

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fucking terrible and that's why Roger Stone and Alex Jones made fun of your

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beard Dan I think that's really what I wanted to end on now that's a button

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Alex look I've been I've never over the course the time that we've done this

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show I've never I it's not fair I one time did send Alex a private message I

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DMed him oh did his DMS are open and I am a gif of the we're coming Bray Wyatt

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yeah yeah yeah I DMed we're here I I DMed him that right but other than that

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I that was cuz I was really drunk one night yeah I haven't really like made

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any contact or tried to fuck with them at all but I've been really resisting

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like just tweeting at him your beard sucks just cuz it sucks so much really

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I've never been more triggered like on a base level that like I know that I hate

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his rhetoric I hate what he stands for but when I see that beard that's what

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really gets you I've never wanted to punch him more see now why now I'm

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excited because we've done this episode because I know the beard exists I get to

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go look at that beard oh it's such a bad beard cool and this beard on my face is

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fantastic it is damn thank you also fantastic is our website knowledge fight

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there please rate review subscribe all that good stuff sure that that helps

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people out I guess that helps people find us yep it's yeah would they be cool

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if more people found us I just want to go on I just want to be invited on Fox

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News as the liberal angry guy that the day is so much fun no the combs days are

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over he'd be so much fun I want to be that guy so Jordan come to the end of

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this episode and once again it's your turn is it my turn I feel like it's your

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turn I always say I have a never-ending cavalcade of people that I want to tell

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to go fuck themselves I feel like it really is more like relevant to you than

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me sometimes I feel like a real like like someone gets in my craw but

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generally speaking I feel like telling people to fuck themselves is sort of

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your territory you just can't tap into that primordial anger I could but I

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think it's better Dan I feel it I think it's more sincere when you do Dan I see

Unknown Speaker (02:43:43.000)

within you the Super Saiyan hey hotep Jesus go fuck yourself

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Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding

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well Alex I'm a person color I'm a huge fan I love your work I love you