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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little
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bit about Alex Jones.
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That is indeed what we do, Dan.
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That is our modus operandi.
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Dan, if there was some sort of, like, okay, so if you were going to see the new Star Wars
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film.
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Oh boy.
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You just did.
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It is amazing.
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Right.
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It's so good.
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But, if there was, like, you know, you're not too interested in Star Wars.
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No, not really.
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That's not really your thing.
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It's for nerds.
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So what if I told you there was-
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I don't believe that at all.
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So what if I told you there was a hook, though, that-
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To Star Wars.
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Yeah, even if you weren't interested in Star Wars as a whole, this movie has a hook.
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Okay.
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Alright.
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With John Popper is in it?
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This movie has all blues traveler as the soundtrack.
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Oh my god.
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The entire album-
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I am in.
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Yeah, exactly.
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See?
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Now, just like that hook, so do we have a hook, and that is-
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I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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And I don't know a goddamn thing about Alex Jones.
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That is correct.
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So, guys, we're going to be jumping in.
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What we're going to be going over is last week Friday's episode of the Alex Jones program.
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That would be December 15th, 2017.
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Some nonsense goes down, and standard introduction.
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Shit's fucked up.
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Can we just pre-record that introduction?
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Might as well at this point.
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That'll save you some time editing.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Just drop it in there.
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Shit's fucked up.
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So before we get going, here is an out of context drop of Alex from that episode.
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Jesus loves Satan, kill your children.
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Great.
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Hey!
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So, there's a lot of stuff going on in Alex's world here at the middle of December.
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Coming on, I would say the two year anniversary of him losing his soul.
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Here we go.
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And joining up with Team Trump.
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Alex is in a very precarious position.
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That gives him a lot of credit for having a soul.
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I think he probably did at one point.
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All humans are, I don't know if souls exist.
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Let's move on from that.
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No, I think it's time to get into a metaphysical conversation.
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Well, theologians would say.
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So Alex, we just...
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I would go with William Somerset Maugham.
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Alright.
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So, you asked me before the show, is this going to be some Roy Moore shit?
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Right.
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And no, it's not.
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He's already moved on from that loss and...
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Meaning everybody but Roy Moore has moved on from the loss.
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Oh yeah, I think Bannon's even been like, fuck this.
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Dude, get the fuck out of here.
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Lost cause.
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I didn't do that.
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I didn't do that.
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Yeah.
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Hey, guess what?
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Now we all agree you're a pedophile.
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Surprise!
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You lost the election, now you go to jail.
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Bannon is trying to play the role of Shaggy.
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It wasn't me.
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Weren't you boosting for him like up to the day of the election?
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It wasn't me.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I would never support a pedophile.
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That'd be crazy.
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You give another woman access to your villa.
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That's Shaggy's.
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It wasn't me.
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Used to go to my karaoke jams.
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I got it.
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I got it.
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Alright, anyway.
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I think everybody got the Shaggy reference.
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Alex, the day after...
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And then you double dipped on the Shaggy reference.
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That's trouble.
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Anyway.
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Trying to get that magic back.
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Be a true player.
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Got to know how to play.
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Anyway.
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In the day after the election, the Alabama senatorial election, Alex tried to paint a
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bunch of very soft narratives about voter suppression against white people.
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Of course.
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Which is great.
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Famous issue in this country today.
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And then he tried to start up a conspiracy theory about them not maintaining the voting
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records that there was a Supreme Court decision, an Alabama Supreme Court decision, that the
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Democrats and the globalists were trying to pull, wherein they wouldn't maintain the records
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of the voting stuff.
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But if you really...
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And they did it brilliantly by, first, putting all Republicans as Supreme Court justices
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in Alabama.
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Correct.
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That's the Democrats' first brilliant move there.
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Absolutely.
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Second, fostering a need, a need to suppress black votes.
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Yes.
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And how the Democrats came up with this brilliant plan to...
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And what was the result they were going for again?
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I don't know.
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It's so convoluted.
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It's nonsensical.
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And I think, pretty quick, Alex realized, ooh, this doesn't have legs, this is all Republicans
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who did this.
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Yeah.
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It was actually the Democrats who were saying, maintain the records.
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Right.
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Be that as it may, he's like, ah, fuck it.
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So he jumps ship on that narrative.
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And most of his time since then has been spent on trying to tar and feather Andrew McCabe
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and Rod Rosenstein because...
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Not a bad idea.
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Because I think he started to get the reality in mind that like, oh, we're doing a lot of
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work trying to get Trump to fire Mueller.
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But even if Trump fires Mueller...
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Which he can't do.
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He can.
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No.
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I believe he can.
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Not legally.
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I think he can.
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No, it's against the law.
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I think he can though.
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He cannot force the Department of Justice to fire a special counsel.
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That's the whole point of having a special counsel.
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I think he can and I think it would be a massive disaster, but I think he does have the authority
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to.
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It would just be like, oh no.
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Yeah.
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But even if he does, they can just get someone to replace him and keep the investigation
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going.
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It's a much better idea to attack the Department of Justice itself vis-a-vis Rod Rosenstein.
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Which he appointed.
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Right.
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So...
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These people are stupid.
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Alex is trying to pivot to that and a lot of the work he's doing is through the discussion
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of those texts that came out between the FBI agents that we're calling Trump an idiot.
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The biggest story in the history of the world, people were texting each other that Trump
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was an idiot.
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Right.
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And it turns out they also were talking shit on Hillary and Sanders too, along the way.
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Of course.
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But the more important thing is the reason that they were communicating, this guy struck
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and I can't remember the lady's name, who were communicating through these work phones.
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They were having sex.
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Yeah.
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They were banging.
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They were using those phones because if they used their other phones they might get caught
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by their spouses.
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Right.
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They were cheating.
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Right.
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So that's really more...
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I don't really think that there's much compelling shit going on here.
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I challenge every Republican politician to release their text messages around the Trump
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campaign.
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Oh boy.
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They will all have, if not the same text, very worse texts.
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What are we going to do?
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Yeah.
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We're fucked.
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Everybody.
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This guy is a fucking moron.
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So he spent a lot of time on that and we don't really need to go over that too much because
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I really just don't think that there's much there in terms of substance.
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But there is one funny moment that I don't have a clip of, but it bears mentioning.
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Alex is turning on Paul Ryan a good bit.
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Good.
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Well, he never really liked him that much, but at one point...
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He calls him the darling of the left.
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Ooh.
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Oh boy.
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Paul Ryan.
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The darling of the left.
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Paul Ryan is the darling of the left.
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Yeah.
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Alrighty.
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So I have two clips...
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I guess that means we're allowed to kill the ones we love.
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Is that how that works?
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So I have two clips here from the Thursday show, actually, because I actually cut these
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clips accidentally.
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Okay.
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But they're worth it.
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So I have two clips from Thursday and then we'll...
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How do you accidentally cut clips?
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It's a long story.
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Okay.
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We'll cut these and then we'll get into Friday proper.
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But they're relevant because that whole McCabe-Rosenstein narrative isn't really present as much on
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Friday.
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Right.
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But it's been a big part of his last week.
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Right.
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Real quick, before you get into the clip, do you think people have souls?
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Look, theologians would say...
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The arrogance, the recklessness, the fake confidence that criminals and scum and betas
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engage in when betas finally get in a man's world and get together as a group of betas
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and start engaging in criminal activity.
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They just do things alphas would never do.
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I just...
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I keep learning that it's betas who are the ones that get together and commit the really
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big crimes.
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And they're all a bunch of chicken-necked anti-American trash.
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I mean, you read their emails, their texts.
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I mean, these are people that have a big giant you-know-what for America and just hate fly-over
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country and hate bitter-clingers and hate Christians and just hate everything.
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I mean, this is a group of garbage.
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But you've got to be garbage.
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If people are in your business, which is our country, robbing it, they're going to hate
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the people they're robbing.
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It's what criminals do.
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They always demonize who they're robbing, and they always think they're invincible until
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they get caught robbing.
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So they're the good guys?
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And then they think threats and intimidation and garbage work on people who are alphas
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because they're betas and it would work on them.
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Well, it doesn't work on Trump.
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Are we talking about fish?
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It doesn't work on America, and it doesn't work on me.
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Make up whatever you want.
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Do whatever you want.
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Hit me with your best shot, baby.
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Fire away because you are all going to prison.
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I think he's projecting a little bit.
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I don't understand.
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Wait.
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So first thing he says...
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All that stuff about betas is about McCabe and Rosenstein and Mueller probably too.
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Whatever.
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Yeah.
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It's all these liberals who are...
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I prefer to think of that entire thing as completely divorced from any reality and it's
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just like his philosophy on...
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It kind of is.
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Exactly, right?
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He's espousing some sort of belief in like, you soft pussies, you're the real problem
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in the world, not us bully alphas.
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Right.
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And yet at the same time, so they would do things that alphas would never do, which first
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question, what are we talking about there?
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Well, we're talking about like the remnants and sort of, let's say, intellectual tradition
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of the men's rights activist communities.
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Great.
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That's basically what he's operating off of.
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Gotcha.
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I'm guaranteeing he's just sort of repeating half remembered things Cernovich told him.
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I'm guessing that's what he's expressing there.
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That sounds right.
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The betas are the ones you got to worry about.
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I mean, I guess if you've seen Revenge of the Nerds and you're a lady, that's probably
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true.
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Certainly.
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They didn't treat them well.
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Did not.
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And then he goes into how the betas are actually understandable in doing what they're doing
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because they're watching the country get taken apart.
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And so they're...
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He flipped the teams, I think.
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I think he flipped the teams.
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Probably.
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I think that's my issue here.
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I don't think we could ever accuse Alex of being intellectually consistent within a sentence.
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What he's saying, I believe, is that these betas, they hate the country because they're
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robbing it.
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Oh, because they...
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They're the ones robbing it.
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So I have an issue with his pronoun usage.
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That's what really is going on right here.
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Certainly.
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Yeah.
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Gotcha.
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So anyway, this next clip from Thursday, the 14th, is a little bit more troubling because
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he spends a good bit of the show really just playing clips of Putin.
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He spends...
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I mean, now?
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Yeah.
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Is now the time?
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Here's a clip of this and some dog shit analysis he's going to throw in.
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They limit the powers of the president has been elected.
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It means that they don't have respect for those people that those Americans who elected
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Donald Trump.
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And that's it.
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Putin, your media, your political elite do not respect the American people.
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They do not respect you.
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And they're trying to overthrow your will and what you did constitutionally.
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And we've caught the FBI and the Justice Department working with leftist groups in Russia to try
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to dummy up fake witnesses.
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And it's all fallen through.
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It's not real to frame our elected president.
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So he's getting at that the Christopher Steele stuff.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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OK.
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What?
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Putin is right.
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According to Alex.
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I already assumed that.
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That the media is trying to disrespect the public, which is great.
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I feel like they're not.
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I feel like we're all trying to disrespect the public.
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That is fucking stupid.
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There is that.
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But it feeds into Alex's narratives about fake news and what have you.
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It turns out that to a certain extent, those are Russia's objectives to begin with.
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So Alex is really just now mirroring back what he has already mirrored from Russia sources.
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So it is this, you know, those drawings, those optical illusions where there's mirrors bouncing
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back and forth.
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It's a little bit of that.
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There's this weird visual.
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The infinite eye.
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Yeah.
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There's this echo chamber back and forth of like Alex responding to Putin saying things
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he remembers and recognizes from his own narratives that themselves were mirroring Russian narratives
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to begin with.
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Right.
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It's very strange to figure out.
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It's beautiful.
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I love, there's something that, regardless of how you feel, having the balls, if you
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are a Russian person, to go on TV and say, they don't respect the will of the American
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people.
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That's fantastic.
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It's wild.
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I love that more than the balls on that.
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And we definitely influence your reelection with lies and bullshit and you don't even
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respect your people.
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And it's like, but, but we tried, but you guys, we tried to drum up a extremist opinion
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and a racial tension and all of that in order to facilitate a false rate.
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Well, it's truly racist, but false populist uprising behind a very easily black, malable
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and deeply in debt guy who's surrounded by mobsters.
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Why don't you respect the will of your people?
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And you guys don't even respect them.
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Yeah.
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What the fuck?
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We worked so hard to gain your respect.
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There is a little bit.
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I mean, they did.
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I mean, what?
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Hold on.
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Pronoun reference.
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Wait, wait, no, no, no, hold on.
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So that, that's, that's most of what I found interesting on Thursday and accidentally cut
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clips of.
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There's another part where he's talking with Roger Stone and he sort of speculates, Roger,
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you're going to jail.
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Yeah.
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I am pretty much going to jail.
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Roger does bring up that amicus brief, uh, that, uh, if you guys don't know the like
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John Brennan and clapper and 14 other people signed an amicus brief, everybody who knows
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classified information is like, we're not going to tell you why, but these fucking guys
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did it.
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We, we know things.
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We can't tell you why, but Roger Stone's fucking ass.
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I know.
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Like if you're, if you're filing the brief in the first place with your classified information,
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it's very clear.
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You're like, Oh yeah, these guys did some shit.
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I understand why they do it though.
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That makes sense to me.
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You have to protect a process, processes and what have you.
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I don't know.
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I, aren't we past that?
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Like, isn't it about time for us to, we're not, isn't it about time for us to like stop
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worrying about a lot of those laws that made sense before we had a lunatic in charge?
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Maybe, you know, like it shouldn't the FBI or no, like former FBI, it's a bigger question.
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I think just, just be like, Hey, um, normally we would never do this.
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It's a bad idea to release classified information.
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Well, you don't know what the response really will be.
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Also Trump is a criminal, but he communicated with the Russian government to steal our election.
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Roger Stone is involved.
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And that means he is a local cutout as a person who, uh, who is clearly compromised by process.
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So is Alex.
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I mean, Alex even said within the last week, if I was a Russian agent, I didn't know it
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right.
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He's, he's opened up the door to accepting like, fuck, I might've unwillingly done some
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shit, but I still think that even sign unwittingly as opposed to unwillingly willingly, he would've
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been, if they had asked him, he would've been like, I mean, guys, wait, wait, you mean Russia
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is more America than America.
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I mean, I'm in, I've been saying that for years.
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Yeah.
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I think though that what you need to take away from all that is that even just signing
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that amicus brief is like, that is crazy that like when you say we don't usually do this,
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but here's the, here's the truth.
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They don't usually do that.
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No, of course.
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So the fact that they, they all signed that, uh, is crazy.
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See, that's my problem.
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That is unprecedented.
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In for a penny, in for a pound, man.
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If you're going to file some half ass thing where you're like, those guys did that shit,
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you might as well come out and say, those guys did that.
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These are people who have lifelong careers in national security and in information stuff,
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you know, like clandestine shit.
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They can't go against their operating, uh, sort of conditioning there for their entire
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life.
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See, that's the problem with alphas.
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We gotta get some betas in there because betas will do shit that the alphas would never do.
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You're probably right.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, let's get to Friday.
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Friday is, is a wild ride.
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We're going to have a good time until we don't.
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Great, you're, you're selling this real strong.
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Um, it, there's a lot of nonsense.
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Okay.
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My standard, uh, standard.
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Very good start.
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Alex starts and spends a lot of the show talking about how these, uh, these women who are accusing
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Trump of, uh, of stuff are liars.
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These women with their thoughts.
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They're liars.
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And beyond that, he spends a great deal of time critiquing their appearance.
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So we're talking about the women who have accused Trump of sexual assault.
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Yes.
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And Alex will just say that he asked for their phone number.
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That's what he thinks the whole thing is about.
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So wait.
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Not what he thinks.
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That's what he's telling his audience.
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He's telling his audience that Trump was like, Hey, I want to take you out on a date like
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we're in the 1950s.
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Right.
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I would like your number and I would like your father to accompany us.
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So we both know that no kind of hanky panky will go down.
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Right.
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And these women so impolitely said, no, thank you.
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Yes.
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And then beyond that, his further narrative is that everyone's getting paid to lie about
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Trump, but we'll get to that in a second.
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Let's start with this first clip where we really get to see where Alex's feelings lie
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about these women.
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He once said, we need to both probably work out a little more.
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We're both gaining weight.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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What a criminal.
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Like it's like one of these women up there that, you know, that says, Oh, once at a reception,
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he said, can I have your number?
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And I'm not being mean, but I mean, she's not Donald Trump's type.
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I don't want to call her ugly, but she does, looks like a space alien.
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That's what you would call an ugly person.
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I think it's in the realm of what you would call a, it's certainly now like she's so hot.
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She looks like, actually, you know what I might say that about, I would say, I've said
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it about John Ham.
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He's an alien from space T came down to teach us what real handsomeness is.
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Absolutely.
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I feel like, uh, I feel like some people have made those as positive, uh, uh, claims, but
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that's certainly not what Alex is doing.
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Um, yeah.
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And that just like, that just continues.
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Like he says that over and over again, just like these women are too ugly for Trump.
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Trump doesn't put his dick and stuff like that, that sort of thing.
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It's crazy.
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Like, even if you are a propagandist with nothing, why would you go that route?
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It's so, it looks so bad.
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It looks like you have nothing because, uh, if you are a white male supremacist, which
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I would argue 90 to 95% of his audience is, that idea of like, you're not pretty enough
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for me to rape you is a threat.
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It is well, and it's been said in the Brazilian parliament, uh, which fantastic, uh, there
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is a parliamentary, uh, uh, there's a dude who's in the parliament who has been elected
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and he was part of the fucking, uh, grand old dictatorship that they had before who
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famously said to Dilma Rousseff, the prime minister, uh, you're too ugly for me to rape
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you.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So that to me seems like a signal to those guys of like, well, of course I wouldn't,
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uh, or of course Trump wouldn't do that.
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He's much like me in so far as he would only pray pretty women.
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I guess that's sort of his argument.
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Well, cause it does sort of imply that if they were more attractive, it would be believable,
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which means the behavior is believable within Trump if those women were hotter and that's
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not good.
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No, he's, of course he's a rapist, but only for the pretty women who haven't come forward
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yet.
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I mean, I didn't mean yet.
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I meant, oh boy, that's not a good start.
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This woman looks like a space alien.
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Yeah.
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So in another attempt to discredit these women, uh, Alex refers to a story that came out in
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the Hill, uh, last week, uh, that has to do with some high powered lawyer who's going
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around trying to pay women to lie about Trump.
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Of course.
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And, uh, we'll listen to this clip and then I'll explain why I don't give a fuck about
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this.
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That's what this is, ladies and gentlemen, is that they think they can run around in
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bars and in law firms and, and, and, and, and on the streets and go to women in databases
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of who's worked for Trump.
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And they come to their doors, mind if I come in, I'm Democrats such and such, but they
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got their names right here.
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And it's like, sure, come on in.
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Hey, 30 minutes in the conversation, we'll pay you $750,000 to say Trump three on a desk
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and tried to rape you.
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That's an arbitrary number.
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Do it.
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Didn't he?
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Excuse me.
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But some of them are so whacked out, they're like, well, it was for the good of the country.
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You know, I wacked out, oh, it's for the greater good.
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You know, he's a misogynist and you know, all sex is rape.
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It's just, yeah, let's just, can I get my checkbook out right now?
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But we own the story.
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Also we sold the media.
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If you're into the interviews, we'll coach you.
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Listen, it's going to be easy.
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There's going to be hundreds of women.
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There's going to be one of them.
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Most women are scared to do it.
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So they're like, don't worry.
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We're going to hit them with so many women that the lawyers can't come after them all.
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Okay.
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Because these are what is on the tapes.
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I've been told about them.
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So that's not good.
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He should not be referencing the tapes.
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I've been told about them.
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Yeah.
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That's not good.
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Also, you shouldn't be reporting this.
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It best is second hand and he's just making up these lurid details about like, they come
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and knock on your door and like, tell them Trump threw you over a desk.
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Come and knock on our door.
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Right.
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I mean, like that's, that even if these tapes are real, even if that's true, that's bad
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reporting.
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Yeah.
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I've been told about the tapes.
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That's not good.
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That's not necessarily unusual though.
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It's not.
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No, no, no.
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I'm not even talking about just him.
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I'm talking about, there are a lot of times where it's like unnamed sources in the government
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have told me and you're like, well, that's bullshit.
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And that is what he has the right to report.
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He has the right to report that someone has told me there are tapes.
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He doesn't have the right to do an improv scene where he riffs the content of the tapes.
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Exactly.
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Because that is, that is implying a level of knowledge that he does not have.
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Yeah, if you've listened to the tapes, why don't you tell us what's on the tapes?
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Also, apparently what these tapes are about is Lisa Bloom.
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Lisa Bloom?
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Uh, who is the person who allegedly has gone around and tried to offer women money to come
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out and make up stories about Trump.
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If you believe that that's what the narrative is and what the tapes are, here's why I don't
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give a shit.
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Uh, whatever Lisa Bloom was doing, I don't think was related to anybody in any official
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capacity, even if this is true, she was the person who was defending Harvey Weinstein.
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When the allegations came out and then sort of, I gotta distance myself.
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When Ronan Farrow was coming out with his pieces about, when he was working on the pieces
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about Weinstein.
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If I recall correctly, she was not on Ronan's side.
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No, she actually offered him opposition research on like Rose McGowan and shit, trying to
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discredit victims preemptively.
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So I don't really give a shit what she was doing.
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I don't think, I think that she has no purchase here in terms of being, working for any official
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like, Ooh yeah, the globalists use her to do this dirty work.
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Nobody wants to touch her right now.
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No.
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So I don't care.
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If this is true, then you have a shithead doing shithead things.
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You don't have...
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You have Project Veritas.
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Exactly.
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You have a different version of Project Veritas.
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You don't have like a concerted effort by all the anti-Trump forces using Lisa Bloom
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to do this.
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You don't even have a competent effort.
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But also all of these people who are allegedly on tape are not the people who have come forward.
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So even if Lisa Bloom is running some weird rogue activity that doesn't discredit the
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people who have come out already, it only does in shithead's minds who are like, Oh,
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if, if that happens, they must all have had that deal.
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That's the whole point that I was, I've made earlier is like, why would you do this?
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We've got more than enough already.
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Right.
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Well, cause you're Lisa Bloom.
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Yeah, that's true.
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I don't, I don't have a whole lot of respect for her at this point.
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So Alex is on, is on a hot tip about, about sexual harassment stuff and he wants to make
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sure we talk about all of it except for Trump and Roy Moore's.
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And so he gets to a story out of Kansas city about a representative there.
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And then he gets pretty misogynistic and dismissive of harassment in general, naturally, and then
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a little esoteric.
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Perfect.
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But meanwhile, breaking up on info wars.com from the Kansas city star, Kansas dam Andrea
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Ramsey accused of sexual harassment will drop out of us house race.
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Andrea Ramsey, a Democrat candidate for Congress will drop out of the race after the Kansas
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city star asked her about accusations in a 2005 lawsuit that she sexually harassed and
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retaliated against a male subordinate who said he had rejected her advances.
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Good.
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Goodbye.
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Go fuck yourself lady.
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I have actually found if you refuse an older woman from her advances and she has any power
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over you, that they're more vindictive than the cases I've seen with, uh, with, uh, men
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against women.
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So you've admitted that both cases happen and you are the victim of such a case.
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Let's remember that Harvey Weinstein got Mossad to follow women around who he had assaulted.
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Yeah.
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Like think about the level of vindictive there.
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Like some lady, I looked into this and what the, uh, I, I'm inclined to believe the guy.
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I don't, I don't, I don't know all the particulars of all the details.
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She dropped out.
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Chances are the guy's telling the truth.
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Well, the reason that she dropped out, she still claims some form of innocence.
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Sure.
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And the reason that she, she's dropping out is that liberals and Democrats have implemented
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the, let's not take chances policy.
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Yeah.
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So there's a zero tolerance for people who've harassed subordinates.
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Boy, we, just in time, right?
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We got there.
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It's great.
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Yeah.
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Now I guess.
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But the situation is there's this guy who worked for her and she had propositioned him
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and he said he didn't want to bang around.
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Right.
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In other words, uh, he said he claims that, uh, she wouldn't talk to him at the office
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and just ignored him and his career suffered because of it.
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I, like I said, I, I believe him.
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I don't, uh, but that level of vindictiveness is very bad, but it's not getting Mossad involved.
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It's not quite, although there are, uh, I mean Meek Mill is going to prison for two
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years because of a, uh, rogue sexually harassing judge.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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Um, I don't know anything about this.
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So Meek Mill was
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Do you know everything about this?
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I know a lot about this.
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Uh, Meek Mill is a, uh, very, very, uh, talented rapper out of Philadelphia.
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I understand there's a lot of beefs in his past.
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He has had many a beef, uh, but he, uh, was on probation for way longer than his, uh,
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crime would ever have, uh, warranted, mainly because this judge kept following him around.
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Like when he was doing, uh, charity work, she would show up.
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She would tell him that he needs to put her name in songs.
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He needs to do remixes of, uh, like boys to men songs and reference her.
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Like there's this whole fucking thing.
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Every probation officer is like, why is this guy been on probation for three years when
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it was only supposed to be like six months to start it.
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They've never seen anything like it in this particular case.
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And he just got, he just went to prison for violating his probation, um, which he shouldn't
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have been on at this point.
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Exactly.
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And in his capacity of traveling, uh, as a very, very talented rapper, uh, performing
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shows, which he got permission to do from his probation officer and this judge, she
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then claimed that she never received the email and never signed off on it.
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Even though we have records that she did on appeal, Meek Mill will get out, but he's going
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to be in prison for a while.
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And there's a hassle element to it too.
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Like yeah.
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And she should be stripped of her license.
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Now that's some vindictive behavior, but it's not hiring Mossad.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, let's finish this clip.
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But men do it too.
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And it's all disgusting power play garbage.
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And it's, it's just safe.
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It's just something that diseases, modern culture, culture period.
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But good.
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You're getting it.
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You compare that on a scale to kidnapping, torturing children, selling them in the sex
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trade.
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Harassing a woman or a man in your office is about a one strong.
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Not good.
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It's terrible compared to torture and killing kids.
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That's a 10 and see, we should be worrying about the tens in this world and the nines
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and the eights and the sevens.
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And then if you worried about that type of evil, you'd notice the retail stuff.
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The common stuff would start going away.
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What?
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So we've accepted evil and evil is like a psychic broadcast.
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So when it gets more and it commits more, it gets away with it.
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It winds itself up and it begins psychically, diseasing more things around it's a psychic
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disease.
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Exactly.
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That sounds exactly like him projecting a lot.
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It is a psychic disease.
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Well, I've described the globalist lie, the globalist mythology as a brain virus.
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And I believe that I believe that's the case.
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But what Alex is talking about is this really bizarre version of like an understanding of
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evil, wherein it's like you take care of the big stuff and the small stuff goes away.
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Yeah, that's not how that works.
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It's not.
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And it really underplays and discounts what he's describing as a one.
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Like I don't think it's a one.
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I think like petty theft might be a one or vandalism might be a one.
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Yeah, I think systematic harassment of people in order to I don't want to rank it.
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No, no.
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There's no need to rank it.
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No.
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But it's a crime.
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Sure.
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Crime it.
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And it's a bad one.
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I don't even think petty theft is a crime, but that's a whole different world.
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That's a whole different world to enter into.
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In the world that we live in, frankly, under maritime law, which is the only one that I
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accept.
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Right.
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Oh, wait.
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No.
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I'm going to have to do that after.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Okay, well then never mind.
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I retract my argument.
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You'd have to have your own court.
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Can we find an admiral up here?
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So I don't know.
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I agree with you.
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The ranking of things is kind of petty and stupid.
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It doesn't really get you anywhere.
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But it is...
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No.
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And in fact, it does the complete opposite.
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It keeps you from where, look, if your idea is worry only about the big crimes, only about
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that, then you wind up discounting everything else.
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You know?
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But there's also...
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Oh, this...
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Don't look over here.
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Don't look at this sexual harassment shit.
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We've got to deal with this over here.
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And then any problem you come up with, well, it's not raping and torturing kids.
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So let's not worry about it, even though your fantasy 10 is not real.
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No.
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Everything Alex complains about he thinks is a 10, and that's a problem.
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Yeah.
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And everything else is nothing.
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But further, the other dangerous piece of this is he's presenting this false world where
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people aren't working against child exploitation.
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Like people aren't investigating those sorts of things, and human trafficking and shit.
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And if you want to talk about the extent to which we're doing it, that's a conversation
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I'm willing to have.
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But as long as you go, also sexual harassment is a crime, and it's a good thing that we're
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rooting these people out.
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Yeah, it's fascinating that Alex has never got on air and been like, everyone should
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donate to these organizations that are working against human trafficking, and stuff like
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that.
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He doesn't give a shit.
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Well, he's not going to get any money from those donations.
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He doesn't give a shit.
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He can't even write those off on his taxes.
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He doesn't give a shit about the things that are actually on the ground.
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He just cares about exploiting people's fears about them.
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So anyway, this next clip, Alex gets into talking about the Access Hollywood tape of
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Trump with Billy Bush.
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Where are we going to go on this?
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I feel like this has been covered more than enough.
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It has.
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And not reported enough, but it's been covered along all the angles.
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Alex's take on this episode, this Friday the 15th episode, is really interesting because
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he takes a journey.
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He starts here, and then after this clip, I'll play you where he ends up.
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He finds Colonel Kurtz.
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It's such a mess.
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He contradicts himself within the course of an episode, and it's just bizarre.
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He's so desperate, grasping at straws, lying about even just basic reality, to the point
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where like, here's what he says at the beginning, and then I'll play you what he says at the
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end.
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When all this starts coming out as it is, they're just going to not cover it and still
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have the fake women paid off on TV.
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He's talking about, we talked about this on another episode, his prediction that come
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January and February there's going to be hundreds of women who accuse Trump, and he's saying
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that everyone will ignore the fact that they're all fake and Lisa Bloom is paying them all.
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So anyway.
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Saying he raped them, he slapped them, he called them whores.
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I mean, this is all the stuff.
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Like some...
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Did you hear those tapes too?
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OCD in a good way, Patriot control freak, is going to run around raping women, and then
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he's 71 years old before we find out about it.
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Yeah, that's going to happen.
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It is if people sign a bunch of non-disclosure agreements and you settle cases out of court
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and shit like that, give people big payoffs.
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Anyway.
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And long before I hooked up the Trump wagon, I talked to folks that know him and know him
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well.
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Roger Stone.
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And they told me he was mobbed up.
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None of it is true.
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Zero.
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Zero.
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ZS.
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What do you have, like 15 seasons of Apprentice?
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And they get one recording behind the scenes, you know, scumbags record everything.
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They can edit it together and things.
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That's what Trump said.
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It's edited.
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He says, yeah, it's crazy.
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They jump on you and do whatever you want.
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It's crazy.
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Good Lord.
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He just sounds like an old fuddy duddy there.
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But a good one.
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I feel like the ladies is all over it.
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It's crazy to hear.
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I mean, that's old fascist.
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I can't believe celebrities, women throw themselves at you like this.
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Back when I was just a billionaire, it wasn't like this.
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And then I grew up like Elvis with women throwing their panties at him.
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He didn't write those women.
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He grabbed them by the puss.
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And that's what he's like.
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Yeah, they throw themselves on you.
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It's crazy.
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So long as you grab them and that turns into this big criminal and they're the ones reporting
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him.
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Oh, it was accidental.
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Somebody picked it up outside.
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Bull.
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That's not that's not at all.
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And you can hear the tape.
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How it's like a few words.
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Cut.
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Cut.
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Cut.
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Cut.
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You ever seen the refrigerator games?
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And we have the words.
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You can put them together.
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Everyone.
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It's the same deal.
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You could take the Bible and edit it to say Jesus loves Satan.
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Kill your children.
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But it's not true.
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They've taken the words, cut them out, put them.
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In different formations.
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I mostly kept that towards the end because I had that gross slurp noise of him desperately
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trying to breathe.
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So I mean, if you go back and you actually listen to the excess Hollywood tape again,
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it's not an apprentice tape and no one was secretly recording him.
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He was wearing a live mic because grab them by the pussy.
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Doesn't sound like that at all.
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No, it sounds like a sentence said by a monster.
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And even the grab them by the pussy part is disgusting and awful.
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But I think I think that you could make an argument if you're Alex Jones, that what he's
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saying is like that I don't believe in locker room talk, but I think he could make that
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argument better about that quote than about the quote from the same tape where Trump says,
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I can't help myself.
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Sometimes I just start kissing them.
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Right.
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That's because that implies awareness of agency.
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He knows that that is something that he does and he's talking about how he does it.
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Yes.
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The grab them by the pussy part could just be like just dirty talk or something like
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that.
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It's not.
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But you know, you could make that argument.
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The reason that that to me is not an old fuddy duddy.
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No, no.
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Absolutely not.
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I'm sorry.
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I didn't mean to interrupt.
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No, the reason to me why he can't say that and why it's important to continue to point
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out that Trump said that is because so many Republican voters, especially with his bullshit
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of like they hate Christians and all of that stuff, all of these Christians for all of
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our lives have constantly like, I'm not allowed to say pussy around my family.
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You know, I'm not allowed to say that.
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The guy you voted for said that he grabs women by the pussy and he said it publicly and you
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still voted for him.
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So no matter what you do, fuck you.
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Well, because it comes down to the radicalization of evangelicals with things that they supposedly
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should care more about, exactly, which is what Alex Jones is sort of main purpose in
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life is to make you afraid of demons that are all liberals and all that shit where it's
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like, who cares?
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Look, he's not a perfect man.
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He, you know, he, you know, he talks talks about how crazy it is that women want to fuck
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him a bunch.
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And, you know, that, you know, he's human.
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And the reality is he repeats grab him by the pussy as many times as he would need to
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in his defenses of this circumstance.
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His listeners would be like, oh, I did vote for a guy who said that.
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Well, the bigger problem, the bigger problem with the grab them by the pussy part of it
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is the frequent instances from his past where he has literally just grabbed people's pussies.
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Yeah.
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You know, there is that element that's like, ooh, you know that.
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He said that in what was it like 2015 that the tape from Access Hollywood, something
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like that.
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And there are stories from dating back to like the 90s of just putting his hand up people's
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skirts.
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Right.
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And shit like that.
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The old lady in Home Alone 2.
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What?
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Is brutal.
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Oh, my God.
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The pigeon lady?
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Yeah.
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Come on, man.
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I just I just like I like I don't like it.
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I don't know.
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The point being is because that exists, I feel like it gives me full ease with which
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to invalidate any Christian's bullshit.
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Like any time.
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If my parents and my parents aren't on board with him, there's some no, I my I mean, like
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the ones the ones who voted for him, who consistently talk about the more the morality of homosexuality
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or whatever it is along those lines, get bent.
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All of that shit is gone.
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We're past hypocrisy and into a complete you don't really believe anything.
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So fuck you.
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I don't need any of this shit.
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I mean, you can even see that in the demographics of the Alabama Senate race.
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Not even when you look at the racial and gender breakdowns, but you look at like evangelical
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Christians voting for Roy Moore, all about Roy Moore in drastic numbers.
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You see, like, the only way to do that is to just assume that everyone's lying about
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the everyone and the people who are lying are demonic.
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Yeah.
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But anyway, in that clip, Alex Jones's defense of Trump with that clip is that it's edited
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together of things he said.
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Sure.
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And the things that he said are he's a fuddy duddy.
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He's just an old but a good man who's like, it's crazy that women want to fuck me like
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this because I'm a celebrity.
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Well, you know, when do you know what the tape where they edited where he said the word
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pussy and they edit it out and put it into that tape is that tape.
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Oh, oh, my.
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Yeah.
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It was the one where he said that.
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Where else would you edit together Trump saying pussy?
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I think from the season of Celebrity Apprentice that had Bret Michaels on it.
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OK.
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Bret Michaels was trying to not take responsibility for it.
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And Bret Michaels was a pussy?
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Yeah.
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Their pretzel stand didn't work.
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I've never watched that show, but so I know that on The Celebrity Apprentice, sometimes
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they have to make little pop up businesses and I assume maybe a pretzel stand was.
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I've never watched that show.
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There's money in the banana stand.
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I do know that Bret Michaels was on it at some point.
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OK.
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Anyway.
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That was his defense in that clip later on in the show, this is one of the only times
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that we're going to go out of chronological order in the episode, but it's worth it just
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for comparison.
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A little bit later, someone calls in and talks about how you can just make people say fake
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stuff with audio and video technology now.
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OK.
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Now that's an interesting thought.
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Right.
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And somehow Alex hadn't considered this.
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Of course not.
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And once this caller calls up, he's like, oh, this is the narrative.
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Light bulb.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Of course.
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So he changes it to be like, no, it's not Trump being a fuddy duddy.
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Someone just put it in Adobe and made it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Thanks to him.
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Fucking perfect.
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So.
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Thanks, caller, for the assist.
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I got a whole new week out of this shit.
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Right.
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So here is him putting the pieces together and also doing a little bit of a rambly riff
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on the intro music, which I enjoy.
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Your host, I want to go quickly through your calls because they're all so great and they
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bring up things that I've forgotten to cover and many cases, things I didn't even know
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about.
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Most of them.
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But I know this.
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We've got to run from the globalist.
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Oh, do we?
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Take back our civilization, take back our culture, take back our innovation and make
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the devil get behind us, not because we're running scared, but because we're marching
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out of the Babylon into the stars, into the future.
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Run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run.
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I would listen to that show because the pair of singing along to run.
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That's four hours.
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I can get behind and run and innovate and run and innovate and run and innovate on minutes.
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We're mentioning it.
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Access Hollywood.
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I'd forgot about this Delby program that anybody could get.
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And then they didn't release.
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I remember seeing that in the news because it had so many problems.
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You imagine what people would do.
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I mean, all the little creeps out there, and this is old technology.
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So he records it.
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He has it playback.
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The computer can copy it.
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Then he can change words just from one sentence and have it now say off one sentence, other
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words that beat voice print.
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So he, uh, I don't have, I didn't keep all this in because what he does is he plays a
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video of a guy demonstrating the technology from years ago, a couple of years back.
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That he had somebody frantically YouTube immediately after that caller.
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It's way too long.
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And so he just sits there and he's like, look what they can do.
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And it just doesn't get to anything that proves his point.
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I mean, that technology.
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I assume he doesn't say, uh, start that clip over again.
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No.
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That technology does exist in some form, but there are ways you can tell forensically.
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Like people can take the audio and see, you know, things have been edited and shit like
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that.
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It is a really interesting thing though.
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It's dangerous in the future because they can, they can do a relatively primitive version
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of it now that you might, yeah, you could trick some people with.
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So that's going to be an interesting thing, uh, 10 years from now.
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I've seen demonstrations too on YouTube of video technology where, uh, you, you speak
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and it is able to actually alter the mouth of the person who's talking.
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And that, that sort of stuff is incredibly scary.
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Uh, but we're not there yet.
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Alex, man, you're a, you're a few years too early with this bullshit.
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We're not there yet.
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And also Billy Bush is like, yeah, Trump said all that shit.
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Well, he's Billy Bush.
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And they've done a lot of analysis of it and it's, he did, he did, we all know he said
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it.
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We knew he would say it.
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We know he could have said it totally.
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Everything fits.
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Yeah.
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Like it's the easiest mystery to solve ever, ever.
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We don't need to go into voice print match.
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The only thing that I, I, I, I care to bring up and talk about is the idea that Alex had
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the narrative of like, he's an old fuddy duddy at the beginning, a caller calls in, brings
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up that technology.
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Alex fails to, uh, play a clip exploring the technology and then he's like, yeah, that's
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probably it.
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It's probably all fake.
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What, what do you think of an old fuddy duddy sounds like?
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The guy from Up?
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I don't know.
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All right.
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I don't know.
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What even is a fuddy duddy?
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I don't care.
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Look, I don't want to get, I want to move on to this next clip.
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Do you think humans have souls Dan?
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Uh, look, theologians would tell you.
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Um, so in this next clip, uh, earlier in the week, Alex Jones had been, uh, ranting about
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people who want to fuck cars.
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I did not see that coming.
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That was a sentence that took me by surprise.
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He also relates it to homosexuality.
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That I did see coming immediately after I told you the first part.
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So there's this thing called, uh, mechanophilia and there's a subset of people who are sexually
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attracted to machines.
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Yeah, I watched a show where it was like, I married the Eiffel Tower.
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Right.
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There's a lady who married a bridge.
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Yeah, whatever.
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Fine.
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Just don't fucking get in anybody's way.
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Right.
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It's harmless to a certain extent, but in 2008, if you're going to fuck your bridge,
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fuck it under.
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Don't fuck it on top.
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We'll all be okay with that.
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So if you have three questions for me to get across that I find offensive.
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Two questions?
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We can negotiate on two questions.
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So in 2008, there was a video that went viral and a story about a guy who claimed, I think
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it was a guy out of England, who claimed that he'd had sex with a thousand cars.
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And so that was like almost 10 years ago now.
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Rich Little?
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The man with the thousand voices cars?
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Yeah.
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Every time he fucked a car, he had a new voice.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It was a, you know, there's a, that was popular about 10 years ago as a point of conversation
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and I guess it's back.
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Sure.
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Fine.
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The thing is when Alex discussed it, he was discussing it in terms of like, now this,
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he compares it to homosexuality in as much as like, why do I got to respect all this
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stuff?
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All your letters and stuff like all your LGBT fucking cars.
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So what he's doing is he's taking, um, like sort of very basic sexual identity and sexual
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orientations and bringing them into paraphilias.
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It's the, it's the bestiality, like what's next bestiality argument, but weirder.
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Exactly.
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So he did this and he ranted about this.
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Which is weird.
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Is it weirder to fuck a bridge than it is to fuck an animal?
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I feel like, yeah.
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Well, in as much as one's alive.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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I don't know.
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Just like from a base, like mechanic standpoint, you're splitting hairs here a tiny bit.
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I'm kind of, I don't want to go down this road.
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The point is a 10 from one to 10.
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Is it like a cow?
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Is that stone, Roger Stone, a statue in stone of Roger Stone.
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Oh boy.
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Now that's hard to fuck.
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Yeah, it is.
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So Alex earlier in the week, he wasn't that he was one to one comparing being gay with
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fucking cars, but in his rant he was so unclear about what he was talking about and what he
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was complaining about that people on like media matters and these sort of sites pulled
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that and was like, this is a pretty homophobic rant and it has to do with fucking cars.
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Yeah.
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And to be fair to them, they weren't wrong.
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Yeah.
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There was homo-
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Sounds like that's what it was.
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Alex wasn't in it, but he wasn't saying gay people fuck cars.
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He wasn't saying that and they weren't saying that, but Alex thinks that's what he was,
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they were saying he was saying.
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So on Friday, he rants about the reaction to the rant in a very weird way that is troubling.
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This is very troubling.
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You know, there was a time whenever that I didn't even think, like a long time ago, I
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would have been like, oh, so great movie.
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Great movie.
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I would have been like, what?
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That's the craziest fucking thing.
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Now I'm like, well, of course he's mad that he, people think that he said that he thinks
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that he fucked a car.
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Well, it's like, it's like he's misrepresenting coverage of him being super unclear about
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what he's talking about.
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About what he's misrepresenting.
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Exactly.
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Yes.
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It's just this, it's like a sea of fog.
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Yeah.
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It is.
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No one can get out of it.
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So anyway, here is this dog shit rant that he goes on on Friday.
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Oh, you're going to pay for somebody to put Drano in their eyes or someone to chop their
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genitals off.
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Chop your genitals off.
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I'm not paying for it.
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Oh, that's homophobic.
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You don't like people having sex with their cars.
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I just said they're doing it.
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I don't even know the acronym.
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I'm not hateful.
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I don't respond to the people that live as dogs.
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They live as children.
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They're dumping Drano in their eyes.
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I was reading, there've been hundreds of surgeries in Europe where they remove people's corneas
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or they just dump bleach in your eye.
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I tried to find...
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I feel like that's not a surgery.
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No.
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I tried to find verification of this and shockingly could find no verification of it.
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But he's saying there's hundreds in all of Europe.
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I don't know.
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Maybe there's hundreds of cases of people pouring Drano in their own eyes, but it would
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be in the low hundreds.
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Anyway, this statistic he's...
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I feel like you're splitting hairs down.
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This statistic he's citing...
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And this is a road I don't want to go down.
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And then you go on welfare as a blind person.
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No, you're crazy.
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Put them in a loony bin until they don't want to put Drano in their eyes.
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But instead they got psychiatrists and psychologists at the scene applying it to their eyeballs
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and the neighbors going, oh, it's so great.
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Oh, it's so wonderful.
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All he's going off of is a tiny clip that he has from a British show that's like My
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Strange Addiction.
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Where they're just like, I eat couches and stuff like that.
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It's just one of those human interest sort of shows and he's just misrepresenting like
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a years old three minute clip.
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It's like a show that's like, hey, look at how weird humans can be.
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Isn't this some wackadoo shit?
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It's the more respectful version and not racist version of like human zoos that we now do
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on television.
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Yeah, it's a freak show.
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I like the, I just got this image of a guy out on his front lawn, just in like some suburbia,
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just sitting out on his front lawn, just pouring bleach into his eyes and neighbors around
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just like, that's fucking great.
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Great job.
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You did it.
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I really approve of this.
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Proud of you.
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So they don't even want to debate about how they're trying to scramble society because
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their own documents admit they're doing this and making it normal to screw people up and
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create mental illness.
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Let me tell you, you want to take your eyeballs out.
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You're crazy.
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Okay.
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You want to have sex with a car?
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You're crazy.
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Knock yourself out.
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I don't think he believes that.
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I don't have to know the acronym for it.
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I know the acronym mental patient.
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I know the acronyms.
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My wants to have sex with a rubber robot.
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Somebody that doesn't want to communicate with humans who was on a smartphone too much
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growing up.
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That's what you are.
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You're like an animal brought up in a cage with no windows and you don't even know what
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it is to be your species.
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That's what it is.
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The end of our species.
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I mean, this is how space aliens would slowly strangle us and take us out.
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This is how space aliens, if they were real, if they were here, you know, fallen angels,
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you know, this is how they do it and it's funny.
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There's a book warning us that it was coming in and they would run this exact operation.
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Thanks.
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Thanks.
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Science fiction writers.
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Cause if you don't believe in God, that's all it is.
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Okay.
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Well, it's science fiction that they're using as a blueprint so you still, it doesn't matter.
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It's manifesting.
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It's happening.
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We better get informed.
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Okay.
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I'm gonna take your calls coming up.
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I'm going to go to Mark and teen and Marcos and others.
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Brandon and John, everybody else we're going to go to seriously though.
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If you spread the articles and videos, this is just something I say, this is a war when
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you spread the articles, the videos, the reports, they're going to try to ridicule you online
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and try to punish you because they want to shut down the transmission that's most dangerous
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to them.
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They have congressional hearings, you name it, and are specifically wanting us off the
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air because let me tell you, I got their program car show, info war store.com.
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We need your turn for top gear.
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Yeah.
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So I mean it, you know, like you can smell it coming from a mile away that just, we are
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going to race across Europe and then fuck our cause.
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Right.
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I mean, I didn't people who, uh, like, uh, but like people, explorers would fuck animals,
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you know, cause you're out on the, you know, there's no one around.
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When you're alone, you start fucking shit, right?
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I don't look, it's just all my excuse for all human behavior.
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It's just all pathetic.
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Like what he's doing there.
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Because again, he's, he's yelling about like, I don't need to know the abbreviations.
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I don't need to know the letters.
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And like the letters are not talking about people who poured bleach in their eyes.
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They're not talking about people who fuck cars.
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They're talking about people who are, you know, very legitimate.
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Here's a, here's a conversation maybe we should have.
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People who fuck cars are less oppressed than gay people.
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To some extent.
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Yeah.
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Have you considered that Alex?
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And there's another.
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Do you know why they're not in the acronym?
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Because they're fine.
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They don't need an advocacy group.
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Yeah.
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Nobody is bothering them.
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Everybody's more like, Hey, isn't that weird?
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Go on.
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Don't do that in public.
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Yeah.
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Get on out of here you scamp.
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You see a guy like sort of rubbing a car and you're like, get a garage.
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It's a, it's, it's troubling.
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I mean, there's like, if you've ever met a car, dude, there's such an auto erotic.
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Auto.
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Auto.
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Right.
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Autobahn Erotic.
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McCann Erotic.
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There's no good.
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It's called McCannophilia.
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Yeah.
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But the point, the point being is like, a lot of those guys, if you left them alone
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with their cars for too long, you'd find some jizz on the car.
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That's fine.
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That's how it works.
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Quite frankly.
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And I don't care.
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I really don't care.
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Have I got a YouTube video for you by Fred?
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Live your life.
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Right.
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That's what I say.
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That's my motto.
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But you know what?
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I've seen people get married to a fucking car.
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There are four people were allowed to marry each other of the same sex.
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I don't know if the state recognizes the marriage between man and car.
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They get full hospital visit rights.
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With the car.
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Yes.
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Look, I mean, we can have a lot of fun and make jokes and stuff, but like the, the, the,
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at the end of the day, what Alex is doing is he's conflating sexual identity, sexual
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orientation with these, I mean, I don't, I don't think they're wrong or bad, but they
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are certainly very anomalous and they fall under the heading of paraphilias.
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They fall under the heading of sexual fetishes that might be destructive.
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It's not necessarily destructive, but it's certainly way outside the realm of, of normal
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human behavior.
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And it's just like, it's just like if you've ever watched a, what is it, T TLC, it's usually
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TLC where it's like so fat he can't leave his house, like that kind of thing.
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What it is, it's a televised freak show more or less.
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And there's the reason that there's a freak show is because you've never seen anything
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like that before in your life.
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And because the percentages of that population are nothing.
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Ridiculously low.
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And Alex, it's just, it's just his inability to understand what people are saying to him,
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his inability to understand criticism or unwillingness probably, and his unwillingness to.
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Or it's a testament to the strength of his ability to ignore and misunderstand what people
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are saying.
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His willingness to disconnect the idea of homosexuality, transgender issues with I fuck
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my car.
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He thinks that they're all freaks.
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And so he lumps them all into one.
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That's more the point I wanted to get to.
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So anyway, in this next clip.
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Which again is still not a defensible position because your position is freaks don't have
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rights.
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Uh, yeah, but, but I'm not defending it.
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I'm saying that's what Alex believes.
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No, I know.
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But even, even if you believe that you need to understand that that's still wrong.
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That's still the most wrong.
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Quite wrong.
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Like that, like if your defense is being gay is exactly like fucking a car and so you shouldn't
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have rights.
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The answer to that is, are you a human being?
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So you get, so you have those rights.
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You got rights.
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That's how human beings work.
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Human rights.
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Yeah, exactly.
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The ones that we have.
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Fair enough.
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Let's move along.
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We have a bit of road to go down here.
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Yes.
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So in this next clip, Alex Jones has brought in Roger Stone, expert witness Roger Stone.
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Wonderful.
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And the two soon to be felon soon to be convicted felon already fell in Roger Stone.
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And so the two of them have a conversation about these women that are accusing Trump
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of sexual harassment.
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Right.
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Uh, I watched that press conference.
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I rolled it back and watched it three times when they brought out a so-called victims.
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These women are coached.
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They are forced.
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The whole thing stinks to hide.
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Oh, it's ridiculous.
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And they say, oh, he asked for my phone number and they're like, oh my God, that's Megan
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Kelly.
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Just act shocked.
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And meanwhile, let's be honest.
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You know Trump well, even in 44 years, uh, I mean, uh, this is not Donald Trump's type.
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I mean, I'm sorry.
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The woman, the woman looks like a praying mantis.
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Yeah.
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None of these women were his type.
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When he was single, he dated supermodels and virtually only supermodels.
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What about your wife?
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She's a Latina supermodel.
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I've met her.
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Good Lord.
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Well, I have high standards myself.
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Great.
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This is, this is sad.
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This is sad.
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I'm confused as to what the conversation is about.
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What do you mean?
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It's about these women being too ugly for Trump, baby.
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That's a major selling point of his argument.
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Now, Lisa Bloom is paying them all and they're too fucking ugly.
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They look like aliens or praying mantises.
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That's not a good argument.
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It's not good.
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No.
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And he also is reinforcing the exact, uh, worldview that the people who are coming out
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with sexual assault and allegations, you're embodying the thing that is allowing this
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to continue.
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Yeah.
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So that's great.
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Anyway, Roger Stone is in there and he talks about how he's being sued, that amicus brief
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stuff.
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Yes.
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He talks about that a little bit and he's like, isn't it crazy?
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They won't let me, they won't let me grill clapper.
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They won't let me, uh, he won't, he won't come into court and let me cross examine him.
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And like, is that how that works?
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Is he really, he's not really being sued, right?
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This is part, no, the amicus brief is part of a lawsuit against Trump and Roger Stone
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because of the WikiLeaks stuff.
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Right.
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There is an issue where a number of people's personal identities and their, uh, their personal
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information got leaked into the public because of those, uh, WikiLeaks disclosures that they
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had nothing to do with anything and they've sued the Trump campaign and Roger Stone for
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their complicity in the promotion of those leaks and the, uh, possibly being involved
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with them.
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And the amicus brief was filed because they're like, yeah, they totally did.
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Well, the amicus brief is establishing to a certain extent that, uh, Russia did hack
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the DNC and the RNC and that Russian intelligence has a history going back nigh on cold war
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era.
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Uh, but especially since 2000 when Putin came into power of using local people to disseminate
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information and to be their, um, sort of point men in countries where, you know, so I read
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the entire brief and essentially all it boils down to is, yeah, they did that.
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They did that and we can't tell you that Roger Stone is responsible for a lot of this stuff
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for reasons, but he was, so he, he, he talks about that and he dismisses it and you know,
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plays the victim and like a sad little snowflake.
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Yeah.
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Um, but then he says one thing about one of the women who's accusing Donald Trump.
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I don't want to know what he says.
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No, it's actually really great.
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I don't understand what you mean by that.
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It's great because it's so weak, but it also points the finger back at him and Alex in
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a way that he probably should be much more careful with his words.
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Okay.
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Uh, I think you'd have to hold some of the ammunition back.
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I am chasing a very active story that one of the women who's an accuser, uh, who, uh,
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was on the apprentice in claims called sex and assaulted her, lied repeatedly in her
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applications to even get on the show.
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Well, if you lie about one thing, you'll lie about everything and we're going to have more
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about that.
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If you lie about one thing, you'll lie about everything.
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If that's Roger Stone's belief, I have bad news about his career.
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I have bad news about Alex's career.
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I have bad news if you hold anyone to that standard.
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Also, she's lying on an application to a fucking reality show.
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Who gives a shit?
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Everyone lies on those.
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Yeah.
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If you're not lying on that, you're not doing it right.
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I lied on my application to be a college columnist when I was in college.
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Of course I did.
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Right.
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I lied on my application to be on this show.
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I lied about, I lied on every job application.
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On the Craigslist ad for co-hosts for an Alex Jones podcast, you were like, you got to know
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a lot about Alex Jones to be on this show.
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And then we've sort of pivoted to this, you know, this, this new format where you know
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nothing about him.
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Well, I was the most qualified candidate.
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Certainly.
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Certainly.
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But I am going to sue you for lying.
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Fair enough.
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No, no, no.
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That's true.
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It's very fascinating when documented liars get together and complain about someone else
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lying in an innocuous way and then say that it indicates that everything they do is not
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credible.
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Well, it's unjust for people to lie about me.
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I mean, it's fine for me to lie about other people, but they're doing it about me.
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Roger Stone isn't even saying that she's lying about him.
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It's about my boy.
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My boy.
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Yeah.
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I, you know, that's a, that's a really interesting question.
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No it's not.
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To how much, no, no, no.
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To how much do these guys personalize the attacks on Trump?
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Oh.
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Like, no, of course, of course, of course that's not a good question.
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No.
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My, but my, my thought there is these guys do seem to take it as personal attacks whenever
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you attack Trump.
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But they've completely associated themselves with his identity.
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And I think there's different reasons for it and this might be a little bit out there
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and speculative, but I believe that the reasons for it.
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Well for one, it's going to be the need for a pardon.
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Well that's part of it.
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I think it's hierarchical to a certain extent.
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Like I believe that Roger Stone is defensive of Trump at this point for safety.
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Yeah.
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Because attacks on Trump are attacks on him, he understands we get this layer up, I'm under
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there.
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Right.
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That sort of thing.
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So you're saying he's a beta?
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Somewhat.
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And then, I don't know, Alex is a delta or something.
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He's an epsilon.
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He's down there.
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Cause he is, his fear and identification- How many more Greek alphabet words can you
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toss out?
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Alpha, beta, delta, lambdas, data, iota, omicron, oopsilon, uh, omega, uh, did I say epsilon
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the second time?
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You did say epsilon.
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Not in the round up here.
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Sigma.
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Uh.
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I like sigma.
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That's the name of the bad guy in Mega Man.
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Pi, psi, are two different letters.
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Psi?
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Rho, uh, I should have done this in order, this is not good.
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Nu, mu, uh, fuck, I'm running out, anyway.
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Happy Jew.
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It's a rallying cry.
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Nu, mu, happy Jew.
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So weirdest thing I've ever said.
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I think Alex's sort of knee-jerk need to defend Trump is based on things that Roger has told
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him, but there's a filter.
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Like Roger isn't telling him, if Trump goes down, we're all going to prison.
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Roger is spinning to Alex as well, and so he's telling him, he is our last defense against
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these globalists, what have you, feeding into Alex's narrative.
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So I think in his subconscious, he knows that if Trump goes down, he's in very serious legal
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trouble.
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Yeah.
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But consciously and overtly, it's more, I need my mission to be completed, and Trump
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will help complete that mission.
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Right, right, right.
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And the two of them, they're both very personally involved in Trump not being attacked, but
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for very different reasons.
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That's what I think.
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But that's, to me, that makes sense.
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The weird part is that they take it as attacks on them.
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Like I'm fine if you're Roger Stone and you're saying, well, an attack on Trump is an attack
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on my safety.
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What seems to be the case, though, is if it's an attack on Trump, it's an attack on me personally.
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So that's the branding, though.
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That's the branding.
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Trump is all of us.
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Trump is the bulwark.
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He is the figurehead of our movement, which is going to bring back sovereignty.
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Sure.
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All this stuff.
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So yeah, of course, Trump is you.
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Trump is you.
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That's a bummer.
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They should feel bad.
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That's what they've spent a long time pushing.
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I know, but that's sad.
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In this next clip, Alex is mad about Jeff Bezos on Amazon.
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Who wouldn't be?
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We're trying to shut him down, apparently.
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We should.
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No, no, no.
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He's trying to shut down.
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Alex Jones.
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Well, we should shut down both of them.
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Sure.
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So he's complaining about that.
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And then he gets into territory he probably shouldn't be getting into.
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And they're actively trying to get us shut down.
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Darius killed people.
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I'll just leave it at that.
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Has one hundred and ten billion dollars himself that we know of and then he wants me shut
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up.
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We know.
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And then I come home, his boxes are in my house.
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They're not his boxes.
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Not anymore, though.
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People go, well, then why are you launching Amazon pages?
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Because then they put off Chinese knockoffs on there of our products undercut.
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So we have to be on Amazon to be able to then declare that we that it's our products or
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I'm going to sue Amazon.
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But you notice I don't plug in our stuff at Amazon.
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It's all strategic.
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And that's how people play games with our audience.
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They look.
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Jones.
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He says he's anti Amazon, but then he he's on it.
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Exactly.
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Just like Trump has to do some things, you've got to be in the swamp to train it.
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We had hundreds of resellers, most of it fake my brain, and it was becoming a big problem.
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We were having groups test it and find things.
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And we looked.
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It wasn't ours.
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China.
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You look it up.
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So I've got to be able to have a store on eBay to shut down the fake stuff on eBay.
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I've got to have a store on Amazon to shut down the fake stuff.
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That's how it works.
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Is it?
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But good Lord, ladies and gentlemen.
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It is insane.
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And I'm not whining, but we're in a war.
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I'm on the deck of the ship.
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They are shooting at us.
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And when you pray for us, when you spread the articles, when you spread the videos and
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when you go and buy T-shirts and spread the word, meet like minded people and you buy
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books, you buy films, it changes the world.
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I promise.
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I'm going to Brandon, Mark and Jim.
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Right.
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We come back and Lewis and Tristan.
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It's going to happen.
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But I've got a plug.
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Every year helps us fund to the next year, decide if we're able to stay the same or grow
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or contract.
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And luckily we've been expanding for 22 years in full or score.
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You've said you've been expanding for 22 years.
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He somewhat has, I believe.
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Yeah, I believe it based on the reality that we see in front of us now.
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Well, he's got Dr. Jerome Corsi crushing it in the DC office, DC bureau.
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Oh man.
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So the thing that I want to talk about, I can't tell you how many stories I've heard
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a Corsi break.
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So many hot ones, hot, hot, man.
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That's a guy on it.
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They're not sexy though.
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They don't go viral, but they're so real and they're boring.
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Right.
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And you can't listen to them.
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And they're not true.
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No, there is a problem with that.
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Sure.
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There's a couple.
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So you can lie if you're interesting, right?
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If you're Paul Joseph Watson lie like crazy.
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Yeah.
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Um, so the other thing that I want to talk about there is that what he's complaining
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about is this idea that I have to be on Amazon because if I'm not, then there'll be resellers
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who pop up on Amazon that don't follow the rules of reselling my stuff, which is ironic.
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I don't think he likes capitalism at all, but it's also ironic considering he started
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fortified supply.com in order to get around reselling agreements with the people that
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he resells.
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I don't understand.
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He gets, he has that entire thing that we talked about like a week ago where he was
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like, I started this site around map agreements, prosperity.
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He's complaining about people doing the same thing that he's doing to his suppliers with
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his stuff.
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Well, yeah, but it's bad when it happens to him, right?
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He doesn't care about those other people who he's doing it to pathetic.
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It's so pathetic.
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It's not Amazon.
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It's these other resellers who are just doing the same game you're doing.
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Do you not understand that?
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Like you behaving in this way makes it okay for everyone to behave in this way.
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Who cares about agreements?
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Dan, I feel like you fundamentally misunderstood capitalism.
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No, I understand it and they're living it.
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Yeah.
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You misunderstood it.
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Right.
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The point is only, wait, what was the definition again?
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Because that's what's happening.
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Prosperity.
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So in this next clip, capitalism is great when you're, when you're benefiting from it
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and when all your rules are followed, everyone just gets in line and all of a sudden when
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capitalism hits you the wrong way, you're like, well, this is bad.
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It turns out maybe this is bad.
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Fuck this noise.
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Yeah.
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In this next clip, Alex finally, socialism for me and capitalism for everybody else.
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That's what the rich say.
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Exactly.
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So in this next clip, Alex finally gets to a caller and the caller asks him about a fake
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story and it's pretty interesting how Alex responds to it.
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Does Alex know about this story?
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We'll see.
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Brandon, Alabama.
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Thanks for holding.
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You're on the air.
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Go ahead.
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Alex, can you hear me?
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Yes, sir.
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Thanks for calling.
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I appreciate all you do.
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Thank you for accepting the call.
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I'm out here in Arizona, not Alabama.
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Sorry.
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Sorry.
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No, no.
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I got Alabama on the mind.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So I just have a few bullet points.
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I was wondering if I can get your thoughts or opinions on, uh, maybe you have some inside
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baseball through your sources that you can talk about, but it consisted of the CIA headquarters
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getting raided by the Marines recently mixed with 4,000 plus field indictments in all 94
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districts, which could be for, you know, pedigate related mass arrests.
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It could be nothing more than gang prosecutions consisting of, you know, here's the questions.
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I look at those reports.
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Did the Marines really raid or that's just rumors that w that w these are, that's why
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I'm bringing it up to you.
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I didn't know if you had any more definitive, no, I mean, they're the globalists run a lot
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of fake news sites that act like they're Patriots on purpose and notice the media never really
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covers that fake news.
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They just put out fake news to confuse people.
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So when they see a real bombshell story, they don't know what they're saying.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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I have an alternative theory and that is that a lot of people in Alex Jones's camp are crazy
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and they post crazy stuff.
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It's not the globalists who are putting fake Patriot news out.
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Why did Alex Jones say in looking at these reports, what do you mean?
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Are there reports?
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Well, they're like, he just made that up whole cloth.
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No, there are blog posts.
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Okay.
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So this guy, so I, this guy's referring to some sort of weird, uh, wing night.
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A website where they posted a blog about like the military has invaded CIA headquarters.
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They're taking down the deep state kind of thing.
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See, I thought he was fucking with Alex because he sounded like he wasn't insane.
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No, like he's, he had the, he had the vocal qualities of someone who isn't going to be
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like, also, did you know that they just rated the CIA headquarters with the Marines?
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No, no, no, no, no.
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You, you have a good sense of a lot of these ad pivots, but you need to learn about how
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like how to tell if one of these callers is crazy.
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These crazy people hide in plain sight to some Daria.
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So like he, he goes on to be like, they're probably going to take out, you know, maybe
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the military didn't invade, but they're going to fucking take out all these pedophiles,
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right?
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Now it's just like, yeah, they are.
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What kind of lunatic would believe that the Marines would, it would raid the CIA.
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They, even if you believe that the Marines could raid the CIA, they can't, no, that's
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not even a thing, posse comitatus, I know there's no thing that that could be, I mean,
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the Marines do not operate on our soil, investigate things.
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They're not police.
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Yeah.
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It's the same thing with like Alex Jones saying that he has secret service sources that have
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told him that they're investigating Mueller and it's like, hold on now.
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Do you know that the secret service, their only investigative arm is about treasury?
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Yes.
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It's about taxes, yeah, it's about counterfeiting and then protecting the president physically.
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It's not about, nobody ever really even knows why that's going on in the first place.
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That was just one of those weird de facto things where they're like, eh, fuck it, come
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on in.
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I get it.
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But like, it's that same thing.
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It's like, oh, the military.
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Yeah, of course the Marine, the good people in the Marines are going to investigate and
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storm the CIA, but the Marines would go to what CIA office?
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To a big one.
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Home command.
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The CIA office at Langley in Space Command.
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Here's the problem that you don't understand.
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There are so many problems I don't understand.
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Even a year into doing this podcast, I really don't think that you understand the dearth
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of like weird websites that promote these sort of narratives.
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There are thousands of them out there that people just subscribe to.
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They're just like, oh, I like this guy's right.
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You know what?
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It's a small version of, like, there are a thousand websites that tell you what's going
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on with wrestling.
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Oh, do you mean it's a more successful version of what we do?
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No, because no one else does what we do.
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There's a reason.
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Yeah, that's a good point.
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This takes a long fucking time.
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It's a lot of work.
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But there's a bunch of places where you can get varying degrees of the same sort of information
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about what's going on in the narrative of the WWE.
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You choose the guy who's writing style you like, and then it's like, I'm a with leather
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guy, or with spandex guy, or I'm a bleacher report guy, or Matt Elfring.
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He does his own thing, you know?
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Our friend Matt.
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Yeah, but he does it with GameSpot because he's fucking incredible.
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Right.
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Love Matt.
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Congratulations, Matt, on your kid.
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He just had a baby.
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Congratulations, Matt.
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I'm proud of him.
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Also, I saw him tweeting that he was thinking about doing a Degrassi podcast.
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All right, Matt, you get the fuck off.
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I'd like to tell him, good luck.
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Spend a good two years doing that, and it's very emotionally draining.
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But be that as it may, you have all these people and you just choose whichever voice
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you want in terms of like, this appeals to me.
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I like this writing.
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In the world of wingnut conspiracy shit, there is the same thing in terms of there are tons
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of people who are spitting fairly similar narratives on blogs, and you're like, I like
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this guy's writing.
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I'm going to subscribe to him.
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And then it just becomes your place to get that news.
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There are hundreds of them on the internet, and they're all full of shit.
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And most of them spit stuff like this, like the Marines have invaded the CIA report or
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rumor.
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Right.
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The Marines have invaded the CIA.
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Sources have told us, blah, blah, blah.
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But that's the mentality of most of Alex Jones's listeners.
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You have to understand that.
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That they believe stuff like that.
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How would the Marines raid the CIA?
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That would be a firefight.
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Totally.
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But do you remember like nine months ago we did that episode where he was talking about
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how they had a firefight at a pedophile compound?
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Yeah, but that's not the Marines and the CIA firing guns at each other.
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But I think it was the Marines who had invaded this pedophile compound or whatever that he
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was making up.
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I'm fine with that.
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But if the CIA and the Marines had a firefight.
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We don't know if there was...
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I would watch that movie so hard.
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From that call, we do not know that there were weapon exchanges.
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If the Marines are invading the CIA headquarters, sooner or later there's going to be a weapon
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exchange.
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You know from Alex that there are two types of people in the CIA.
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There's the ones that do the killing, and those ones love Alex.
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Right.
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And then there's the pencil neck chicken shit.
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Right.
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The hard rice and the soft rice, if we're talking about Larry Nichols.
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And the soft rice are the ones who got invaded.
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Right.
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Alex Jones came in with the pencil pushers.
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No gunfire needs to be...
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Look, it's stupid.
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Who cares?
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But if the CIA...
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If one office of the CIA gets raided by the Marines, now I just want a movie where there's
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a war between the CIA and the Marines.
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Look, even Alex Jones fucking knows that this is bullshit.
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That's insane.
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And to his credit on the show, he's like, no, that's not real.
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But the idea that he's like, the globalist pushed this, it's like, no, no, no.
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You have engendered a very empowered and dumb population.
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See, now that's our sequel to Olympus Has Fallen right there.
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The CIA and the Marines battle.
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That's like Alien versus Predator, but way better.
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But how do we do this without anyone knowing?
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Mm-hmm.
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That's gonna be the interesting part.
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Well, that's why you're fighting against the CIA.
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They're covering it up for you while they're fighting against you.
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So now, Jordan, we're about to get into the part of the show where I would say Alex loses
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it a little bit.
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Aliens?
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He doesn't want to talk to callers anymore.
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I imagine why.
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He is sort of in a place where he's like, ugh, I have no more guests.
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Paul Joseph Watson's gonna host the fourth hour.
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But I...
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And he's a giant pile of shit.
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I got a long way to go.
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There's one story that I really want to talk about, but I can't get to it yet.
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I gotta fill some time.
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Let's talk about the devil.
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That's a good way to go.
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The betrayal, the deception, the lowliness, the weakness.
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But that's the way the cycle works, isn't it?
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We have to be tested.
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You can't just be given eternal consciousness in God's great system that we're in the waiting
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room of being tested.
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It's real.
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All the top scientists now at the genetic engineers, the globalists, they say, oh, we're
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gonna create new realities.
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And this one's the false one.
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Something else is running.
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We're gonna make a really cool idea.
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We're gonna make this whole new thing.
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Everybody needs to go with us into it.
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Haven't you heard those reports from the top scientists saying we're in the waiting room
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to heaven?
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But the devil can't manufacture, can't create, so he's got to get us to do it.
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And he's trying to get us made in the image of God to build him his own new universe.
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That makes sense.
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But then of course, kill us when he's done.
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That also makes sense.
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He tells all the top architects that they're gonna merge with these machines and he's gonna
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take them with him.
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Devil's already got robots.
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Doesn't need you.
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Then why did he ask you?
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You'll find out.
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That's a good point.
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I'm in Toronto, Canada.
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Alright, alright, that's my favorite thing.
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That's my favorite thing.
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You finally, after a year of doing this, we found my favorite thing.
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The devil, he needs you to build him a new universe, but he has robots.
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He doesn't need you.
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You'll find out.
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Jim in Toronto, we gotta get you on board.
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There's such comedy in those pauses.
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You know from at least some experience with Alex that as he's pausing, there's just a
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look on his face of like...
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I just said the devil has robots.
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That's a weird thing for me to say.
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Jim?
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I just shot my wad with the devil.
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I'm in a refractory period, I guess, Jim, what do you want to fucking talk about?
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Hey, Toronto, Jim, what's going on?
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That's like, there are moments of Alex where he does something accidentally and just cause
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he's kind of panicking a little bit that are 10 times funnier than any joke I've ever heard
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in standup.
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Anything, I've never heard anything funnier than that.
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That's so fucking...
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Because you know what, Alex accidentally understands tension and release.
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There's so much tension built up.
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God, that's the best Bob Hope bit that Bob Hope never wrote.
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There's so much tension that's built up with this idea of the devil is trying to make us
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create him a universe and then he's going to kill us, then the long pauses serve it
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so well in terms of building up the tension, and then the release, the punchline of Jim.
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That's Jim from Toronto.
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Also, if I were Jim in Toronto, I'd be like, that was a shitty legal.
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I don't want to come to stage to that.
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How am I supposed to follow that?
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What does Jim in Toronto want to talk about?
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I don't even remember.
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It was so inconsequential.
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Of course, Jim is following devil worshiping.
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It's impossible.
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Come on, man.
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Jim, you got nothing.
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It's impossible.
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You're filler.
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Alex asserts that the Me Too movement of women talking about how they have also been sexually
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harassed and abused is really just about trying to attack Trump.
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Nope.
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Done.
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Already out.
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Most of it's bullshit.
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It's really just about trying to attack toxic masculinity.
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Which Trump embodies.
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Which he does embody.
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That's true.
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But beyond that, Alex gets into Pizzagate a little bit in this next clip.
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He should just not do, like if I was him, if I was just giving him advice, which once
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again we should not be doing, and yet if he hires us for a good amount, I would think
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about it.
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I'd like to meet Daria.
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Yeah.
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I would like to meet Daria.
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What's up?
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He should just pretend that that never happened, right?
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But the problem with him pretending it doesn't happen is that there's too many records of
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what he said back then.
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We have records of all the shit he said.
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It hasn't mattered.
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Right.
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And he lies about all that here.
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And then on the other end of this clip, I'll explain why it's an even bigger issue than
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previous just that.
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They're obviously readying this for Trump.
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And that's what he's been getting at.
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That's what he's been talking about.
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Here's a low tech example of what they do.
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And then we're gonna go to Jim.
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Megyn Kelly aired about 10 months ago before she left Fox News, a clip on her show saying
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here's Alex Jones saying Hillary tortures children to death in the basement of a pizza
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place.
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Would you like to play that clip?
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But no, because before Alex gets into it, he's kind of fair on this, that Megyn Kelly
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on her show did play a clip out of context in a report about Pizzagate.
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But the issue is that Alex was being super unclear about what he was talking about in
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the clip that they pulled from.
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Are Alex being unclear?
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And the other problem is that Alex, his point that he's going to make when I keep playing
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this clip is that Hillary Clinton, through her support of the overthrow of Libya and
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stuff like that, is responsible for the rape and killing of children and what have you.
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But the problem is in that clip that Megyn Kelly took is that she personally raped and
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murdered these children and stuff like that, which is linguistically difficult.
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I understand why a overburdened researcher clip puller for MSNBC or Fox News would do
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something like that.
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It's not necessarily the most deceitful thing, but Alex is also right that they did take
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it a bit out of context.
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It's one of those things where if I said out loud that Obama personally is responsible
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for the...
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Not even personally is responsible for, just personally did things.
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Because that's the language he used.
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See, now that's a different situation.
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That's why I'm bringing this up as a clarification.
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Because if he just said she's personally responsible for this stuff, then you could bring your
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Obama comparison in with all the shit he's allowed to happen with drones.
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Whatever atrocity you want to...
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If you're making decisions on that level, your decisions are going to lead to atrocities.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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And in her capacity as Secretary of State, she is responsible in some ways...
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For atrocities, yeah.
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For a lot of that stuff.
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But when you use the language of she personally raped and murdered children, that is where
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it becomes a problem.
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He doesn't understand that distinction, and he's using this decent point he has to lie
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about a more salient point that he should watch his language.
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But anyway...
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And then she had the owner on, and then she said that this clip is what I'm saying about
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this guy.
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This is about James Alifantis, owner of Comet Ping Pong Pizza.
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Who we have discussed.
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And Alex Jones had to give a formal apology to.
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Yes.
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Which I didn't say.
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I mean, it would have been defaming him if I was saying it about him.
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I was saying it about Hillary.
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You kind of were.
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Funding ISIS and Al Qaeda that have sold kids into slavery by the tens of thousands, murdered
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women, thrown gays off buildings.
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And then I went through this whole rant about, I don't know if she's a devil or if she's
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really killing kids.
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But with this whole story the media had out there specifically about Comet Ping Pong,
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and later I said it probably was made up, is made up, to distract us onto that place
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away from what was in the WikiLeaks.
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Sure.
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That was your angle.
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But it takes time to figure this out.
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I did this whole rant about that and they edited it together.
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It's video.
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But audio and video.
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Totally clear what I said at the beginning and the end.
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And they put it out, I'm saying she's in the basement herself torturing and killing kids.
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Nope.
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And they edited the tape, mixed it around, edited it, cut the front off, the back off,
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and played like a minute on the show of fake audio.
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That's why when Megyn Kelly called me and played dumb on the phone and started hitting
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on me I said, let me, I never take people to video, clandestinely, but on that case
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I did because I could tell it was a setup.
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Fuck you.
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So there was a big Hillary sex scandal break.
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Fuck you.
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Mainstream media had all reported on it.
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They just covered it up by creating a fake one.
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Then they put it on me and say I'm fake news for being the one that went and reported on
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it, covered it, and then debunked what was happening.
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Sure.
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Then I become the guy who's guilty and who supposedly needs to be put out of business
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for it.
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So a couple of very salient facts that need to be brought up.
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One, the guy who went to come to ping pong and fired his rifle in interviews said that
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he was inspired.
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Specifically pointed out Alex Jones.
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I listened to Infowars and I needed to save those children.
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Yep.
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I needed to go get to the bottom of it and the clips that we have played that Alex has
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tried to delete from the internet unsuccessfully, he has said someone should go look into this.
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Yeah.
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That sort of thing is why that guy did.
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Right.
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More salient point.
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In the same way if one of those Second Amendment folks had gone after Hillary, you would look
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at Trump and say you were the one who said I hope these Second Amendment folks go after
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Hillary.
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Boy, that's weird.
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That's weird.
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The other thing I need to bring into focus is that in the last week, Alex Jones had a
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guest on his show to talk about Bitcoin.
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Yes.
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He was a Bitcoin expert.
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A Bitcoin expert.
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By the name of Dave Seaman.
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And you don't know who that guy is.
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I remember a man named Dave Seaman because that is a funny name.
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Dave Seaman was one of the biggest forces behind Pizzagate.
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Yeah.
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You could say he blew his wad on Pizzagate.
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He did.
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But apparently his refractory period has come around and he's now a Bitcoin expert.
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You know what?
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Once you've come, you're always going to money.
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Yeah.
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So Dave Seaman is a guy who all his videos are now taken off the internet because he's
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like oh shit, I gotta get rid of all this stuff.
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This is bad.
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But he was leading the charge.
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He was putting out frequent videos about the basement and about various Instagram posts
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that Comet Ping Pong had put out.
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He was pointing the finger directly at James Olyphantis.
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And he created this bizarre narrative around himself where he was being threatened.
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And oh my God, the globalists are coming to get me because I'm uncovering all this stuff.
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You guys need to support me.
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Give me money.
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And he made tons of money off people.
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But what it was actually about is that the globalists were coming after him because of
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his knowledge of Bitcoin.
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I can't stress this enough.
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His videos are gone from the internet, but I watched this unfold in real time.
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I was watching the entire Pizzagate thing happen from the jump, from the beginning of
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it.
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And what Dave Seaman is doing now is the same thing that Alex is doing because Dave has
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now scrubbed all his videos from the internet and he has a Pizzagate recap on it where he's
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trying to make it all about the things that were said in the WikiLeaks.
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Of course, of course, of course.
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When in reality what he was doing was ginning up people to a crazy extent where he was like
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no, it's all there.
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It's all there.
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Everything's going on there.
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James Elefantis is a devil worshiper.
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They got Podesta's in the basement killing kids.
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He was 100 percent the most prominent figure who was pushing that stuff to the point where
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he created a hoax about people trying to kill him.
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He pretended he had to get off the grid and disappear to a cabin somewhere and then didn't
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put out videos for a while and everyone's like where's Dave Seaman?
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Did they get him?
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That sort of shit.
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Right.
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Alex Jones.
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It's like if George Lucas tried to tell us that he never invented midichlorians.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Bullshit, Lucas.
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Exactly.
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That one's on you.
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So Alex Jones had Dave Seaman on his show in the last week as a repurposed Bitcoin enthusiast.
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All right.
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When he is not.
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He is one of the people who like that guy.
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I believe if I recall your, I believe if I recall your post about this, you likened it
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to Cain.
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Yes.
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And before he was Cain, he was what now?
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Dr. Isaac Yankum.
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He was a wrestling dentist.
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You, uh, the rest, the pro it's, it's the packaging.
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The entirety of your blog post was super boring, but that is a very interesting.
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I'm just fucking.
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Well, but that's what that's what wrestlers do is don't work and they're doing the same
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game.
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Yeah, of course.
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But no, I was, I was being facetious.
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I understand.
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He was very, very good.
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But it's the same thing that Alex has done with himself.
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He's repackaged what he said about pizza gate and what he was doing now repackaged and allowed
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Dave Seaman to come on his show as a Bitcoin enthusiast and Dave Seaman wrote a book about
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buzz and about how he's all about buzz and how he would deny the existence of air if
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it got him attention.
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So it's like, eh, maybe we don't need to pay attention to what you're saying.
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You shouldn't write an explanation for why you shouldn't listen to some exactly yourself.
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And then let's go further.
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Another step.
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Alex has Jack so big on the all the time, who was another proponent of the literal pizza
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gate shit to the extent that he went to comment ping pong pizza and spread spurious rumors
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about it.
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As we've covered on an episode about him on the show, he recalled on that video, he has
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all these guests who are trying to retcon their own past about this stuff.
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And it's not OK.
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Right.
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It's not OK.
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I'm pissed off about it.
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I'm super pissed off about it.
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Pizza gate was bullshit and these dudes are just like, eh, and Mike Cernovich, too.
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Mike Cernovich is another one.
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He pretends those videos aren't still around.
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It's nuts.
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All of these guys are just engaged in large scale fraud.
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They're engaged in large scale lying and manipulation.
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And then when it doesn't work out, they're like, I wasn't saying that.
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I didn't say that.
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I didn't say that.
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There's videos, man.
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There's videos of Alex Jones saying that he talked to Russian intelligence.
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This is nuts.
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This isn't OK.
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You can't get away with this.
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I'm mad.
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I agree.
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I'm furious.
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I just I'm I I agree with you a little.
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I agree with you on every point.
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That's when you do.
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I enjoyed it so much.
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That's our main difference.
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I was listening to that rant going like, fuck, yeah, keep on going, Dan.
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Keep on fucking getting up.
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Go after that.
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And you're listening to my rants like this fucking guy better shut up.
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I've got more facts to get to.
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Fuck you.
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Fuck you, Dan.
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That was great.
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I enjoyed it.
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How dare you?
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That's a fair criticism.
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I am giving you positive reinforcement.
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I accept that criticism.
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I accept that.
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Yes.
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My positive reinforcement is criticism of you.
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Well, it is.
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It is.
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It is.
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I know I'm using the powers of positive reinforcement to chastise you for the way you've treated
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me in the past.
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Oh, God.
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And again, fair point.
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Yeah.
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I love you, Dan.
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Love you, too.
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So this next clip, this one we're going to have fun with.
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This next clip is actually going to be fun.
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There's nothing better.
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There's nothing better than two people having a moment of where it's like, all right, now
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we're going to get back to work.
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Okay.
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Yes.
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There we go.
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That's our version of the Alex Jones ad pivot.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Back to what we're actually supposed to be talking about.
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What were we doing?
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It doesn't matter.
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Let's get back to what Alex Jones said.
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I've always conceived of this show slightly like Mystery Science Theater, in the sense
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that we are trapped in this room talking about something that neither of us would like to
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be talking about.
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Agreed.
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Agreed.
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And so we just got movie signed.
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No, exactly.
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It's time to get back to the business.
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That's why I have never had, like, when we first started, there were plenty of times
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where you were listening to me talk over the clips, like, what the fuck are you doing?
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And now you've kind of got, like, that's what I've always thought of it as, is when we're
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listening to the clips, except for the points where I do this.
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No, no, no.
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That's important.
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Well, we've figured out an angle where that makes sense.
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I have to shush servo every now and again.
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You need to shush servo every now and again.
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God damn it, Bill Corbett, figure it out.
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So in this next clip, we actually get to a little bit of...
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Yeah, that's right.
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I know a lot about Mystery Science Theater 3000.
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Who would have guessed?
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That's not that much.
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You know one of the guys?
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No, I know more of the guy.
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All right, Trace Bolio.
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Mike Nelson.
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Shut up.
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All right.
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This next clip, we can actually have some fun as Alex Jones misrepresents another
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right-wing sexual abuser in a very comical way.
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Before we go any further, Jonah Ray, great.
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Great.
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Fine.
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He's great in the new version.
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Fine.
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That's how they operate, ladies and gentlemen.
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But regardless, you have to take any video or any tape at face value after you have experts,
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forensic experts, look at it and you see long clips of it.
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You can't sit there and take it at face value when it comes out for these people because
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they've been caught.
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The exclusive prominent lawyer sought donor cash for two Trump accusers.
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Confirm the hill, what we told you months ago and days ago, what Bill O'Reilly said.
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It's not really a story.
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And I must think Bill O'Reilly didn't hit on women and really weird stuff in the transcripts
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like, oh, baby, you got a falafel in there.
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You know, you want to have sex with a sandwich.
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I mean, it was really weird.
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That's called sexual assault?
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No wonder he can't get women.
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I mean, look, Tip O'Reilly, you don't want to call up, you know, your producer if you
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want to take her out, tell her, you know, off the bat, does she want to, you know, shove
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a sandwich?
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I mean, you're a pervert.
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But and you know, and you should have got in trouble, but what, 15 million to one woman
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for a pervert?
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Call up about a, you know, how you want to do stuff with food and it wasn't like chocolate
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sauce or something.
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It was really stupid.
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So there's lots of examples of this and ways they can carry out fake news.
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So here's what I want to say.
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The ends there.
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I don't understand.
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I don't understand.
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I'll make, I'm like everything.
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I do not understand.
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I'll make everything clear.
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Okay.
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So what he says there at the end is the most telling part is like, there's so many ways
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they can do this fake news.
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So now what he's talking about with the go shove a sandwich and like that falafel stuff,
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you don't know about this?
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No.
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Why would I know about this?
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So Bill O'Reilly, when he got in trouble for the sexual harassment stuff last time or the
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time before last, cause it's happened a bunch, the classic one.
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Cause he's a serial sexual assaulter.
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Yes.
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And the one from-
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Like Matt Lauer.
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The one from years back involved a call that he made to a lady where he was talking about
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like rubbing a falafel around.
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He meant-
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Well that's just good fun.
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He meant loofah.
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Yeah.
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He just didn't know the word for it.
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Wait.
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What?
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It was very clear that he was talking about rubbing a loofah around.
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Wait.
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Yeah.
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Bill O'Reilly thought a loofah was falafel?
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He was probably drunk or on pills or something like that and just was like, falafel, put
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that falafel on here.
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All right.
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You know what?
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I don't think Bill O'Reilly knows what he's talking about.
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But Alex Jones is in that clip giving out fake news.
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And fake advice.
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But in a sense it's entirely-
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And even he was like, and it's not even chocolate sauce, which I have done many a time.
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Like wait, what did you just say?
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Alex Jones, did you just say you used chocolate sauce a whole bunch?
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That's fine.
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That's super fine.
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Live your life.
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Why would that, why would a falafel not count in the same vein?
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I think it would be structurally and logistically much more difficult than chocolate sauce to
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use in a sexual way.
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I disagree.
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Chocolate sauce, it hardens.
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It's not good.
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Definitely don't use honey.
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Okay.
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I shan't.
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But look, I don't want to talk about that stuff, like the logistics of sex with food.
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I want to talk about-
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Let me tell you something about fajitas.
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Bad idea.
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Because they're sizzling.
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A lot of burning.
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I want to talk about the fact that even liberals, when they make fun of the falafel stuff, it's
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because everyone knows he misspoke.
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It was talking about a loofah.
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Alex legitimately is presenting it as like, hey bro, you like sex with sandwiches?
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Great.
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Don't call your producer with that.
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I wouldn't call your producer with any of that.
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Why are you giving that advice?
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That's one piece of it.
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That's the more important piece.
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His advice is don't sexually assault your producer with that.
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With sandwich talk?
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Sexually assault her with this.
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But the fact that he doesn't know that, it's a very easily explainable, he meant loofah.
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Well the fact that he thinks the problem is sandwich choice, that's maybe a larger issue.
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Everybody knows women like to be fucked with meatball subs.
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The problem is so much further towards the beginning of the question than when you get
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all the way to sandwiches.
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Oh, totally.
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Like there's a long way to go, sexual assault continues all the way up to sandwiches and
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beyond.
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You are totally right, big picture, but since this is an Alex Jones podcast and that seems
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like such an elementary point, I'm more fixated on the fact that he is willfully or just so
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oblivious to what Bill O'Reilly was actually talking about.
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This is our Bill O'Reilly's Nancy Pelosi moment, where he's like, ah, Bill O'Reilly, he's senile,
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he doesn't even know how to fuck.
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So in this next clip, Alex talks about David Rockefeller, who is now dead.
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He had some heart transplants in his life.
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And in this clip...
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Dead is a Subway sandwich, which you should not fuck with.
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Dude, I went to Subway the other day.
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Don't do it.
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I yelled at the person, the sandwich artist, felt really bad about it, but she was not
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listening to me.
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I am a problem.
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I'm sorry, Dan.
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I'm a problem at Subway because you know what I want?
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Why are you a problem?
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Because I want Giardiniera juice, but I don't want Giardiniera.
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I like the spicy oil.
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That is a problem.
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The spicy oil is delicious.
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I understand.
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I hate the cauliflower.
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I understand where you're coming from.
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Giardiniera.
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Fuck you, Chicago.
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It's too busy.
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It's too busy.
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Get what you're saying.
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I'm with you all the way.
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I'm with you all the way.
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It's too much.
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I understand.
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Don't go to Subway, though.
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Back when I used to work at Subway.
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That's on you.
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Back at Subway, I would always be very happy to give people the oil.
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It just takes pressing down the spoon, and then you get the oil, and you can put it on
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the sandwich.
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The other day, I went to Subway, and I had to scream at somebody.
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I didn't scream.
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You didn't scream.
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Of course you did.
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I was passive aggressive as fuck, though.
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In your brain, you screamed, then you felt guilty about it for weeks afterwards.
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Let's role play it.
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Okay, all right.
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Can I just get the Giardiniera oil?
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Just the oil from it on the sandwich.
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What about the rest of it?
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She didn't say that.
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She just started going.
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Just started doing it, and she got a scoop.
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Granted, it was mostly oil.
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So I'm already more competent than the sandwich employee that you were working with.
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Well, if they wanted to have a conversation about it, it would have helped.
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Insofar as I asked you a question.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Gotcha.
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No, she just started going in, and then poured it on the sandwich.
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I'm like, ah, there goes a carrot.
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Dude, she's being paid like nine bucks an hour.
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She gets whatever she wants.
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I will accept any inconvenience from a fast food employee because it's like, dude, I get
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it.
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I'm with you.
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No, I am too.
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You probably have a creative writing degree, which is more than I successfully achieved,
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and you're making me a sandwich.
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I agree with you.
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This is the end of Dan's hungover going to Subway tales.
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Yes.
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Also, I was there.
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Can we get some more benign celebrity acquaintances?
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Yeah, here was one.
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The manager of the Subway.
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Wait, is that the celebrity?
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Yeah.
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All right, all right.
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He was having a conversation with-
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All right, I'm sold.
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I'm way in.
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He apparently got robbed.
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Apparently someone broke into the store recently, and he was having a conversation with an adjuster,
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and she didn't believe him at all.
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So I'm just sitting there trying to order my sandwich, and she's just been like, walk
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me through this one more time.
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It was this very weird, like, do this in an office.
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Don't do it in the middle of the store.
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An insurance adjuster is asking the manager about what happened-
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Yeah, and what was lost.
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... whilst you are getting a sandwich.
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Yeah, in the lobby, just sitting right next to where I'm ordering my sandwich, and pissed
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off about the Giardiniera oil.
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Right.
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And then, get this, get this.
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Nobody has asked you about this.
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You have been waiting to tell this story for so long.
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I didn't realize it, but yes, apparently.
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Yes, apparently.
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Look, so this happens, and I'm pissed off about the oil situation.
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My quote was, there goes a carrot.
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Which is fine.
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So the sandwich gets wrapped up, and then the manager, who's in the middle of talking
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to this insurance claims adjuster, comes around to ring me up.
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Do you know what that is?
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That's a Law and Order episode.
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Whenever the cops always go to the warehouse, and the guy insists on still picking up boxes
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and putting it over, instead of just like, oh hey, you're cops, I will have a conversation
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with you.
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Right.
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That's fantastic.
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There's one guy behind me.
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There's two people in line, total.
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There's no need for him to come over at all.
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No, no, no, he's got to fucking handle it himself.
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He's got to get in there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then he overcharges me for the sandwich.
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What is he?
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He overcharges me for the sandwich.
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He overcharges me for the sandwich.
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He overcharges me for the sandwich.
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What are you?
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Larry David now?
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What is happening?
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Basically.
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Basically.
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It was ridiculous.
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You just wrote a two-episode arc of Seinfeld.
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That's what you just did.
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You just wrote a two-episode arc.
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It's an everyman version of Curb.
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Yes.
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He charged me like six bucks for a meatball sub.
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I'm like, I thought it was five dollar footlongs.
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What's going on here?
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He's like, you got it wrong.
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I'm like, all right, whatever.
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All right.
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I'm hungover.
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I got to go home and eat this.
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All right.
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You know what?
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I'm not going to back you with this insurance adjuster.
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I was on your team until now.
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This extra dollar means you didn't get robbed of shit.
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This has been Dan's Malevolent Subway Experiences Corner of the Day.
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Now let's get back to this clip about David Rockefeller.
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Right.
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We've got Movie Sign.
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Movie Sign!
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It's going to become very clear, very soon, how far gone we already are.
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And by the time we turn the ship around, it's still going to be real bad, folks.
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The mental illness, the evil, the genetic damage, we're going to be so damaged that
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they're going to say, oh, we have computers and gene editing and everything for you.
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Just join in with us and we'll take care of you.
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Because evil should get you have to be willing to die.
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I would never take a Buddhist or a Christian or an atheist liver to live.
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Chinese liver.
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What?
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Wouldn't do it.
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David Rockefeller had six heart transplants before he died.
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Really?
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Most of them out of China.
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Little inside baseball.
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He was on such a power trip four years ago before he went to his last Bilderberg, three
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years ago, that he had a heart transplant two days before he went.
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What is that clicking sound?
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It's his pen.
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He's clicking his pen.
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Oh, OK.
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But this is...
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So he's like a what's-his-face in Goldeneye.
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This is fake news out of the World News Daily Report.
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So Rockefeller had six heart transplants before he died.
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The World News Daily Report in April of 2015 reported the billionaire philanthropist David
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Rockefeller had successfully undergone his sixth heart transplant at 38 years at the
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venerable age of 99 years old.
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The article also purported to have a quote from David Rockefeller, every time I get a
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new heart, it's like a breath of life is swept across my body.
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I feel regenerized and alive.
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That sounds like a fake quote.
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However, this news was not reported by any other credible outlet because it was a spoof.
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Probably because it's made up.
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It was a spoof about the alleged heartlessness and entitlement of the wealthy from the fake
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news site World News Daily Report, whose disclaimer page states, and the site's articles are not
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meant to be taken truthfully.
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Here's a quote from their about page.
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World News Daily Report is a news and political satire web publication which may or may not
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use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways.
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Real news articles contained within World News Daily Report.com are fiction and presumably
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fake news.
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Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental except for all references to politicians and
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or celebrities, in which case they are based on real people but still based on almost entirely
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on fiction.
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Right.
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It's an Onion article about Dick Cheney, essentially.
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But Alex Jones took that to be true.
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But it is true that he did have multiple heart transplants in his life, and he lived to 101.
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He had multiple heart transplants?
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Yeah, I'm not sure the exact number.
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Is that even allowed?
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I feel like you shouldn't be allowed to do that.
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If you're super rich, you can do whatever the fuck you want.
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I feel like you get one extra heart and then you go, fuck yourself.
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You can do whatever the fuck you want, it turns out.
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But this particular case- Wait, what, rich people get treated differently
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than the rest of us?
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Yeah, totally.
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No idea.
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But in this particular case, Alex is specifically- like, the last episode we talked about how
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he was just responding to a chain letter, basically, and this one he's responding to
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an article using World News Daily Report satirical news website as like, did you know that a
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week before Bilderberg he got- You know what's kind of sad?
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I prefer- I wish I lived in a world where you could just get a shit ton of heart transplants
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and you'd be fine.
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You can if you have tons and tons of money.
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Yeah, I mean- He did live to 101.
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Yeah, but I mean more like, he should have lived to 161.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, he should have gotten- every new heart should have-
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Give it time.
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Medbed.
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Medbed.
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It's coming.
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Fair enough.
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Our boy Randy Kramer is gonna get that- Fair enough.
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He's gonna get that Kickstarter going.
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I accept any and all Medbed-related information.
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Yes.
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So let's get through the rest of this.
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But the point is, Alex is lying.
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Yeah, of course.
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Now I'll give him that.
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He had some will, didn't he?
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But it was a will to hurt people.
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And he wanted to be at those tables of power.
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He wanted to hold onto this life as long as he could, but he didn't.
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You know where David Rockefeller is now?
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France?
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With other spirits like his.
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La, la, la.
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No more blood to suck, vampires- Tibet?
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In their eternal death, in their spiritual coffins- Melbourne?
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For eternity alone.
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Melbourne.
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I hear the tone.
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Cut off from God, that's hell.
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That's Melbourne.
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The lake of fire is a metaphor.
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I said I'd go to your calls, and I didn't.
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But I've gone to a lot of them.
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I'm gonna go to Tristan, Jeff, Boheme, Devon, Clint, Lewis, I'll get to all those calls
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where the transmission ends.
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Paul Walsh is coming up the fourth hour.
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But I've gotta say this or we won't be able to fund ourselves, plus the great products
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you need.
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Oh.
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Don't sell vitamins and minerals and water filters and air filters and everything is
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good for you.
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Doesn't mean I'm the perfect person, it just means everything we bring you is the very
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best we can.
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Great.
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Do you see the difference in- Do you see the difference in affect?
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His voice going from- It's so performative.
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You know where he is?
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That guy's in hell.
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He's cut off from God.
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Hey, we've got new sales on water filters.
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Everything is good for you.
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I can do a better version of it, and it's this.
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It's like, I love his idea, Rockefeller, he has all these Chinese arts, but you know where
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he is now?
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That guy.
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Cut off from God, he's in hell.
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Everybody's trying to fucking say that I sell shit.
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Because it's defensive.
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He gets really excited defensively, like everyone's like, I sell bullshit, but look, I sell water
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filters and vitamins.
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Right, right, right.
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I mean, it's so performative, it's nonsense.
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To think that a normal human being would have that as their path of experience, their path
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of how they want to rhetorically do a show or whatever, it's nonsense.
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It's so fake.
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I often think about this, if you and I- I believe you.
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If you and I were in Alex Jones' position, and we were doing a show where we were convinced
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that the globalists were trying to kill everybody, what we would do, like how would we behave
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ourselves?
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In a certain sense, we are doing that show, you just replace globalists with ultra wealthy.
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No, because I really don't think that they are trying to kill us, I think they just don't
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care.
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You know what I mean?
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That's a conversation that we could get into for hours.
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It's a little more nuanced in terms of like, I don't think that the billionaire class or
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the super wealthy- The oligarchs?
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Yes, I don't think that they have a vested interest in killing us necessarily, it's just
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that if we do, they don't care, and the things that keep us alive cost them lots of money,
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and they don't care about that.
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They want to take away those things, now if we're able to survive without them, they're
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not mad about that, because we still get to work and prop up the organizations that they
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need to make money.
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So the difference between our version of boogeymen and Alex's version of boogeymen, ours are
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real, and also we don't have these fictitious narratives about white genocide.
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I would like credit for not engaging with this tangent and going on a four and a half
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hour conversation about this, because I know that annoys you.
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We'll do it off air.
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However, what I would like to say- I've learned my lesson, I'm going to be supportive.
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Go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
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Somehow that's even more disconcerting than otherwise.
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I prefer it when you look into the camera and say that I'm the worst.
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There's no wind for me.
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I'm like Eeyore.
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Oh my god, you fucking sympathy getting piece of shit.
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Make your point though.
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Anyways, let's go into the 20 things that Dan thinks are reasonable conversation.
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I do think that they are actively trying to kill us.
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It's fair.
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I mean, you can make a good case for that.
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I was just expressing my position.
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No, and I get that.
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That's kind of the- I think that is kind of the fundamental difference that we often have
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on so many different things is how much of it is murder versus how much of it is manslaughter.
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Right.
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I think that's the conversation we often wind up having.
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No, I agree.
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And now that I'm sitting in it a little bit, I start to distance my personal experience
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away and sort of look at it in the bigger picture, and the laissez-faire, I don't give
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a fuck kind of attitude of the rich that some people can survive, others can't.
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And that might be a little bit of a bias that I have that's based in privilege of my own
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life that people who are lower on the chain, it is a death sentence to them.
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It is absolutely straight up a death sentence to them.
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And so I guess there's only a semantic difference between wanting to kill you and not caring
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if you die.
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Right.
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Based on the actions that are made.
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Right.
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So you might actually be way more right.
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Right.
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If there's- Regardless of whether or not there is an active desire to murder, you are murdering
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people and you are doing it with knowledge that people are going to die.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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For the sake of keeping your-
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Right.
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No, if you-
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Books and checks or whatever.
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If you're saying, hey, we need to cut Medicaid, you are saying that from the position of yes,
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I know people will die because of this.
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I am saying we need to do it regardless.
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The argument can never really be does Medicaid work?
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Right.
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It can only be about the financial stuff.
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Yes, exactly.
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Exactly.
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It can never be about what does this provide?
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Right.
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Obamacare.
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Yes.
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30 million more people are on insurance.
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We should get rid of those millions of people.
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Now, admittedly, yes, people will die due to that.
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But financially speaking, it makes sense.
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You know, like that kind of situation.
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But see, with that example, the thing I would step back to is like, it's not necessarily
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killing people as much as it is putting them into bondage.
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It's putting them into wage slavery, bondage, and deep debt, and shit like that, which is
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death in life to some extent.
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But that's not killing them.
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It's more making them completely inert variables.
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Again, it's splitting hairs a tiny bit.
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But at the same time, I would much rather, like-
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I'm not ready to jump into bed with Alex's narratives about the people that we don't
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like.
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Yes.
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I don't want to call them demonic and trying to murder all of us, because I don't want
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to radicalize the people who listen to our show.
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Right.
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And I do.
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I respect the hell out of the people who listen to us, and we chat online, and we interact.
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I don't want there to be a moment where they get some sort of dumbass idea in their head.
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You don't want them to go to a fucking pizza shop and start shooting people.
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Right.
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But at the same time-
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You don't want them to go to a boardroom and start shooting people.
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Do not take that out of context.
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You just said it in context.
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You should have said, go to the boardroom and shit on the table, or something like that.
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Politically.
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Politically.
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Yes.
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So the reason that I know where this episode is going to end, and that's why I'm being
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very specific about this, is that I don't think that our audience should think of the
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people who are in charge and are really ruining a ton of stuff as demonic entities that want
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to kill you as much as they are very greedy.
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Right.
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And it is about accumulation of wealth and cutting people out of the equation.
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It's a-
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That's really more-
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Yeah.
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Because that's a legitimate real world motive that we've seen over and over again.
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Right.
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We see it play out consistently.
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Right.
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We see almost every time there's some sort of really successful thing, it's based on
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fraud.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Within markets.
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Well, fucking Enron.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Or any Enron type thing.
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What I see it as, and I feel like this is probably the most apt comparison that I can
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come up with.
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In an old Western, you see somebody ride a horse to death.
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You know?
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To them, the horse is simply a way.
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A horse is simply the way to get there.
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A means.
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It doesn't matter that the horse dies at the end, because whatever it is they think they're
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doing is more important than the life of the horse.
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Well, what we're talking about now is Kant's categorical imperative, basically.
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Yes.
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To some extent.
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I think about two things.
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The only thing that is good in the world is a good will.
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The only thing that is good is doing things for the right reason.
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And if you're acting out of bad faith and bad will, then anything you do is bad.
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And I agree that a lot of this is that.
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And we've lost track of that to a certain extent.
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And then the other implication from that, I believe it's Kant, I can't remember, might
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be another philosopher, I apologize if that's the case.
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But the idea...
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Dave from IT once said...
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The idea of treating someone as a means to an end as opposed to an end in and of themselves
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is always wrong.
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And I believe that is the case.
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I believe that is true.
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If you just are treating someone with their autonomy and their individual experience as
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a means to get you something as opposed to being a human themselves, then you're fucked.
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And the system that we live in right now does both of those things.
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They are acting in bad will and treating people as a means to an end.
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So there is a reason enough there to just be like, burn it down.
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Of course.
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And the only question I have for you is, Dan, do you think humans have a soul?
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Listen, theologians would tell you, there's a lot of ideas coming out of...
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No, it is the question that I keep going back to.
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So when we started, the question continued...
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A year ago?
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Yeah.
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It was constantly to me always like, is Alex stupid or evil?
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And as we've gone along, the question has become, does it matter?
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Like does it matter if you are stupid or evil?
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Your philosophical question has shifted.
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Yeah.
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Because for me, the question has also shifted.
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And it's more, I know Alex is stupid.
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I know that.
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It's more become to me, does he know what he's doing?
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Right.
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But that's the question of stupid versus evil.
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If you're doing something stupid because you believe in it as a good thing...
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I disagree.
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Okay.
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I disagree.
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Because I've already established he's stupid.
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Yes.
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I know that full on, just based on his inaccurate readings of texts.
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Oh, he's fucking stupid.
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No, we don't.
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We can move past whatever explanation you have for stupid.
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We have 12 months of podcasts to prove it.
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So what I mean is that dichotomy is meaningless to me in that we started with that, stupid
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versus evil.
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Yes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That dichotomy is meaningless because I know he's stupid and the evil part now has become
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evil knowingly and willingly or evil just incidentally.
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Right.
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And that part is still, that's still tough for me.
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I still, I don't have evidence that he is full on evil.
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Right.
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But I do have evidence and we have evidence.
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We've presented it over and over and over again, even in this episode with the Daria
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stuff.
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Yeah.
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Like...
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Jesus Christ, Daria.
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Daria, you have to tell...
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It's like a cop.
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He's...
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Daria, you have to tell us if you're a Russian agent.
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At best, he's in service of negative things.
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Right.
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As a fool.
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Right.
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But I don't know.
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I don't, I still don't know if it, his evilness, I still don't know if it goes past abject
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greed and bigotry, which is still evil, but it's not evil in the bigger sense that like
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trying to bring down the country.
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Right.
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You know?
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Cause that's what we're talking about.
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Right.
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That like, that's the end goal.
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Like the way he, the way he does his rhetoric and the way he, he, he brings his narratives
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into the world, the end result will be a Holocaust, probably against Muslim.
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His desire.
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Not his desire.
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Not necessarily his desire, but his rhetoric logically based on what we know of history
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will lead to this, this, yeah.
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It will lead to the, uh, putting in camps of Muslims and it will lead to a harsh crackdown
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on people who have liberal sensibilities.
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If you're fighting against demons, you put them in ovens.
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Right.
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Right.
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There, there's not like, there's not that much wiggle room in terms of that, of course.
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But I don't know why I'm trying to defend him against being evil.
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You're not defending him.
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I think, I think what I'm, what I'm understanding of what you're, you're discussing is-
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I think he's scared and greedy.
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I think he's scared and greedy.
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How much does motivation, uh, change your opinions on how to deal with him?
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Is that what I understand?
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Not at all.
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Not at all.
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No, no, no, no.
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Okay.
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I don't deal with him as like what he says and what I, what I gather from researching
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the narratives and what he says.
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I deal with it objectively.
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I don't, I mean, we, we, we still give him credit for the things that he's right on.
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True.
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And not like, we're not like-
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It's been a long time since we've had to.
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That's true.
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It's been a long while.
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To me, but my, my change in philosophical position has come from like, well, on the
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last episode, uh, or a recent episode, I posited the question, can you say that the world would
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not be a better place if all Republicans died this instant?
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Right.
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Right?
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So if you are, if Alex is stupid or evil, does it matter?
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The world would be better off without him.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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He's not a Republican.
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But that's not, that's not the, the, the only reason that-
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You're talking about the right or whatever.
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Yeah.
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The reason that that, uh, comes up in my mind is because I, I say it facetiously, like I
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don't want, I definitely don't want our listeners killing anybody.
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You say it as a thought experiment.
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Yeah.
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And so if it is that thought experiment, does it matter?
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Does it matter what your motivation is behind what you're doing?
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The difference is murder versus manslaughter.
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Does it matter whether or not billionaires want to murder us or whether or not billionaires
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support things that will kill us?
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It doesn't matter to me because the issue is that we are going to die regardless of
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how they feel about it.
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I agree with you.
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And now the secondary problem becomes we have one political party that is actively supporting
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what you're talking about.
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Right.
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And we have another political party that is not doing as good a job as we need fighting
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against that.
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Right.
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And so we'll see what happens.
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Anyway.
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Look, I don't know.
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I love this conversation, but this podcast is going to end up being six hours long if
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we don't.
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Good point.
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Uh, let's get back to it.
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We're having a classic knowledge fight, 12 and a half hour episode.
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Anyway, that's our ad pivot.
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It's weird how, uh, yeah, we, we produce a lot of content and, uh, I think we would do
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it regardless of whether or not anybody gave us money at all.
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I'd do it for nothing.
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But I appreciate everyone who donates, but we need more.
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It would be nice if you became a policy wonk.
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Yep.
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Anyway.
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Just to justify our weird obsession.
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Jordan.
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Yes.
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So now we get to the point of this episode where this is what we've been trying to get
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to all along.
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Right.
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Alex Jones.
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I mentioned this earlier.
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He has something that he wants to talk about, a news story.
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Yes.
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And he has been dancing around getting to it much like he keeps avoiding going to calls.
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And he just find out Stalin died.
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Oh my God.
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He doesn't know yet.
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Don't tell him.
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It's like Santa Claus.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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I can't do it.
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Okay.
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So he has a news story out of a Dutch video company, Dutch TV.
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Already.
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I believe him.
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He talks about this in the sense that it is creeping Nazi-ism, um, because of the Dutch.
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Yes.
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And, um, I don't know how to do this exactly.
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I'm just going to play this clip.
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It involves some fake crime.
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Not because of the far right rallies in Poland or the Austrian government having a suddenly
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far right turn to it.
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No, no, no.
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It has nothing to do with that.
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I don't mean that facetiously.
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It has nothing to do with that.
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It's the Dutch.
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He actually has, I'll just break it down.
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Okay.
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He has a decent, uh, starting point.
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He loses it.
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Now I'm intrigued.
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He loses it past, um, the point of analysis, but he has a decent starting point and what
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it is is that there is a, uh, there's a video clip, um, spoiler alert.
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It's from 2016.
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It's like a year old.
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Um, but it's from a documentary that came out on Dutch television called, uh, the last
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downer and downer is a term that they use for Down syndrome, uh, people who have Down
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syndrome, which that's not great.
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That's not a good term.
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I don't like it, but that's the Dutch.
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I'm not dealing with Dutch PC issues.
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That's not, we're not the Dutch PC police.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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That's not where we stake our claim.
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We got a lot of other shit to get to.
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I'd be thrilled if they didn't use that term, but I'd be thrilled if the only problem that
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you and I could find to combat in this world is Dutch PC.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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There was a documentary, uh, called the last downer and what it was was a, I do not like
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you saying that though.
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Well, but here's the thing.
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No, I just mean like hearing the words, the last downer right in that context.
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Not a huge fan continue though.
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In the Netherlands, I'm just reading a synopsis of this cause I couldn't find the full version
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of it.
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I tried really hard to find the full version of this documentary and it's just not available
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on American internet, right?
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Like the movie starring Gary Oldman and Matthew McConaughey tiptoes and there's a bunch of
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Louis Thoreau documentaries I want to watch that you can't find cause I don't live in
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England.
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Right.
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They just, it's not on American YouTube, uh, but Gary Oldman isn't in it.
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In the Netherlands, a TV show revolving around the end of down syndrome was recently aired
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on national television.
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The series that was titled the last downer explored what society loses if down syndrome
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disappears.
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It talked about ethical, social, psychological consequences of having a child with down syndrome.
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So the focus-
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That's really interesting.
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But do you understand?
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I mean, that's really interesting.
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Yeah.
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No, from what I understand.
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Do you understand that in the synopsis, the first thing it says, it explored what society
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loses if down syndrome disappears.
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That's why I'm saying that that, that's a very interesting documentary topic of like,
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and what it is, what it is really is, um, an exploration of how many of those neuro
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atypical, uh, situations actually wind up contributing far more to society than what
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are, what is publicized.
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Like to, to what extent, and if you want, you can go back to biblical times.
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Like how many prophets were people who had-
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Autistic.
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Exactly.
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Or who, uh, had seizures or who were bipolar.
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Like at what point do you look back at the, um, relative weirdos of history who have influenced
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the way things have gone and not just, and not just go, that tracks with symptoms of
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what we call mental illness now, you know, like who is a, who is a medicine man, but
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somebody who just believes in shit really hard.
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Yeah.
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To a, to a, to a certain extent.
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And uh, what is a seer, but somebody who has grand mal seizures?
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These are, these are things that are difficult to wrestle with.
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Right.
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And before we get into any of this, cause Alex is going to be very-
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Yeah.
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I'm guessing that we're not going to be huge fans of what he says.
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He's not good at this.
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Uh, but I, I, I've known a couple of people who are friends who had down syndrome over
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my life.
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And uh, one of the things that I took away from that is that they are fucking people.
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Oh, oh what, wait, what?
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They're people.
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They're human beings.
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Yeah.
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Big time.
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They're people.
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Yeah.
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With issues, but at the same time, uh, the same experience of life that everyone else
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has.
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Right.
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Uh, and one of the things that I, uh, this is going to come into Alex's commentary pretty
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harsh.
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Uh, one of the things that I, uh, I know from knowing people with down syndrome and sort
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of looking into things a little bit.
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One of the biggest issues that people with down syndrome have is that people look at
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them with diminished expectations.
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Yes.
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They look at them as infantilized.
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They look at them as being these oh so a shucksy innocent, uh, whatever and that's, that's
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not who they are.
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They live their lives and maybe have developmental disabilities in, in learning or in motor function
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or whatever.
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But that's not, that doesn't define them.
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In many ways.
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Or they just have a physical deformity.
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Right.
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In many ways you can come, you can compare it to the idea of like, we're going to put
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somebody in vocational school to train to have life skills as opposed to, you know,
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this is how you clean a fucking butt, you know, like that kind of a thing.
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So I don't know what the full documentary was about because I, again, I told you I can't
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find it.
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Can't find it.
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But I've watched the full clip that Alex has.
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Because you can find that.
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And if Alex can find it, a four year old can find it.
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It started to circulate on right wing blogs a couple days ago and so Alex picked up on
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it.
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I am trepidatious.
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But like I said, this documentary came out in 2016, so it's over a year old.
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And it's already been covered by the assholes.
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Right.
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So they just found this three minute, one minute clip.
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It's probably closer to one minute than three.
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And Alex just decides he's going to launch off on his, his narratives about it.
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When I, when I say that he has a decent jumping off point, it's that the idea that he's rallying
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against is reasonable to some extent.
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The idea of, I don't know.
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Stop selling this.
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I'm interested now in what's going to happen.
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No, because I need to defend myself a tiny bit before we get going.
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Because I said that.
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Preemptive defense.
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Well, it's just that like, you get to a certain place with genetic screenings, in utero genetic
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screenings.
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Okay.
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Where you're able to tell that people have various diseases.
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So we're getting into Ethan Hawke territory.
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What does that mean?
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It's a reference to the movie.
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Before Sunrise?
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No.
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It's a great movie.
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It's not a reference to Before Sunrise.
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It's what is it?
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Gattaca?
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Gattaca?
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Gattaca.
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Yeah.
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There's, there's some of those issues like where does it end and that, and that sort
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of thing.
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Right.
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Where I look, if you look into like genetic abnormalities, there are some that people
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are in pain for their entire lives.
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Right.
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There are genetic mutations that happen where people's skin is like tree branches and shit.
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People in Kentucky have blue skin.
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Tay-Sachs disease.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There are just super- Not all people in Kentucky, but there is a family in Kentucky whose skin
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is blue.
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Right.
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But there are some things where through genetic mapping and genetic editing, you could allow
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someone to have a real normal life as opposed to having tree bark.
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Right.
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Designer genetics.
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Or whatever.
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That's a positive thing.
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I don't necessarily think the idea of aborting anybody who has Down syndrome is a positive
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thing, but if there's a way to edit genes in such a way that we figure out this is what
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makes you have Down syndrome, we'll fix that.
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Right.
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I don't think that's a negative thing.
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There is a massive conversation that you and I can have about that.
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You get towards eugenics and where Alex Jones jumps off-
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Exactly.
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Where Alex jumps off from the discussion where it's like, this is going to lead to killing
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of the weak.
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I agree with him in that sense, but I don't agree with him in application or the real
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world.
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That's the only thing I want to decide.
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Here is the only opinion I have on eugenics.
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If at any point in time we discover a gene that makes you an asshole, I will immediately
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be like, oh, we can fix that gene.
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Eugenics is perfect.
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Alex already thinks that exists and that's why he's against this.
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Up until that point, there's a lot of variables going on that I don't want to start fucking
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around with.
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But if we find a gene in Alex Jones, so we decode-
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He's oppositional defiant.
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We decode Alex Jones' genome.
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We decode his genome- It's not genetic.
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It's based on upbringing.
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And it's not Alex.
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And it's not Alex.
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It's everybody in that ilk.
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And there's just like, oh, if we just flip this switch, Alex Jones is not an asshole.
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From up to down.
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I'm in.
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Up until that point, I have a lot of questions and a lot of thoughts.
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And so long as they are theoretical, I'm far more interested in describing them.
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I think it's pretty scary now especially because we're on the vanguard of a lot of this stuff.
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And you and I are mentally ill people and have struggled with a lot of stuff from our
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genetics and upbringing.
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But a lot of those things have made us into the people that we are.
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And it's sort of threatening on some way the idea of editing genes.
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And there's like, well, I wouldn't be the person that I am today.
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But at the same time, if I was someone who had a genetic condition that was painful all
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the time and I lived a life that was just pain, I absolutely would be like, I really
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wish someone had edited this.
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My personality is not worth the fact that I've lived 10 years, 15 years of just pain
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and died young.
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Well and the simplest way for me to relate to that is-
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And I'm not talking about people with Down Syndrome when I'm saying that.
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I'm talking about other conditions.
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We're talking about just genetic conditions period.
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For me, since I've been medicated, there will never be a day where I don't question like,
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would I be more creative if I were unmedicated?
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That's just-
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Well you hear that from a lot of comics.
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Because part of being a bipolar person is just like, to what extent can I say that my
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creativity is from my brain or from my brain's brokenness, you know?
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So there will never be an answer to that question.
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It's impossible to unpack.
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Exactly.
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So the idea of, once again, we go back to what is a seer but somebody with epilepsy?
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What is a, you know, all of those things?
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So if you edit that out, what do we have?
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I honestly think-
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Is neurotypical, is neurodiversity as important as neurotypical is?
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Neurodiversity is amazingly important.
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And I think, I don't know, I can't speak to this because I can't find the entire documentary,
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but I almost guarantee that that is kind of part of the point.
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It has to be!
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Any reasonable thinking person believes this is a conversation, not an answer.
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But also, why would the write-up of the documentary be what society loses?
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Would lose.
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As opposed to-
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Why would that be the first thing that's brought up in the-
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Other than it's sarcastic, as in like, hey, what do we lose if we get rid of these guys?
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You know the Dutch.
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Like that kind of thing.
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Exactly.
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Their dark sartorial sense of humor.
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You know how the Dutch, you know the Dutch-
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They're notorious for their write-ups of TV programs-
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Sarcasm.
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Sarcasm.
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Darkly sarcastic, like a Steely Dan album.
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Nothing the Dutch love more than sarcasm.
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The Dutch are the mountain goats of music.
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Absolutely.
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So let's get to this.
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This first clip, Alex Jones just can't fucking handle getting to talking about the actual
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clip.
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And we'll see how he handles it.
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Of course.
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I want to go to more of your phone calls, and I need to, because I've got to play this
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clip before Paul Watson comes on.
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And the reason I didn't play at the start of the show is, quite frankly, I watched it
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this morning at about 5.30, I couldn't sleep, I got up.
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I want to be very clear.
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He sounds like he's going to cry.
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I'm worried about Alex.
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Oh, he's going to fake cry.
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I'm worried about Alex.
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Is he okay, Dan?
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Is he okay?
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He's going to fake cry.
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And I wish that I had a super cut of all the times he teases getting to this throughout
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the show, and just never does.
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This is like right when Paul Joseph Watson is about to take over.
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We're getting close to the fourth hour, and he's like, I've got to get this in.
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I've got to fucking do it, I've been teasing it all show.
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Right.
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I went online, I was looking at stuff, and I saw this put out by the Dutch government,
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and...
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Oh, how did it make you feel?
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It wasn't put out by the Dutch government.
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It's so sick that I don't feel like I'm worthy to even describe how sick it is.
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Not sure that tracks.
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Just, I don't, I've got too much to say.
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I don't, you've got this weak, soft bureaucrat getting off on making a down syndrome man
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feel bad and feel worthless, like he should die.
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And it's all done real cutesy and fake and liberal by the feminine.
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He's not going to, it's wrong to women, he's not a feminine, by a soft little beta male.
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I look up, we're back to beta.
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We're not, even him trying to defend the exploitation of people with down syndrome sounds like him
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exploiting people with down syndrome.
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Oh he is, very, very aggressively.
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He's not good at this.
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I realize this now, you guys don't have the video in front of you, and we've just talked
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about what it is, there's a guy with down syndrome and a guy who seems to be the host
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of the show.
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The guy who's the host of the show is a svelte looking gentleman, and the only clip that
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Alex plays, and it's the only clip you can find online, it's disseminated through right
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wing blogs.
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Of course.
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It's this-
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So you know it's true.
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This svelte looking cool, Alex describes him as liberal, I have no evidence that he is,
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the guy with down syndrome guy, who are in office of a scientist, and the scientist is
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explaining to them how much it costs for society to care for people with down syndrome as opposed
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to people who do not have it.
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That's the entire setup of the video, and at no point-
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So we're framing this in purely economic terms.
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Well in this small clip.
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In this, no no no, that's what I'm saying.
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Like this conversation is occurring purely within the realm of the documentary having
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the idea of-
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Well the documentary is like an hour long, I think, and it's three minutes of it.
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But that's my point.
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Or two minutes of it.
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That's my point.
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If your documentary says, what do we have to lose by getting rid of people with down
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syndrome, and you have one clip that is based on an economic argument, then it stands to
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reason that much of the rest of the documentary is about humanity.
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I would assume so.
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I mean like I know I've watched tons of documentaries about people in just various conditions in
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life.
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Being down syndrome, one of them.
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And one of the things that always delights me so much is them being like, stop treating
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me like I'm a dick.
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Yeah.
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That sort of thing.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I always love people having that soft bigotry of diminished expectations thrown in their
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face.
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I always love it when I see someone talk to someone with down syndrome and be like, how
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old are you?
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And they're like, fuck off.
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They recognize when they're being fucked with.
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And this guy-
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Well, I cannot recommend it enough, but read the book Neurotribes.
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It's fantastic.
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It's very, very good.
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The guy in the documentary too is clearly taking in the information that's being presented
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to him.
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And he's clearly part of the conversation.
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He's not being like, he's not treated like a dick.
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They're not saying we should kill you or anything like that.
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But that is what Alex is going to present.
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I realized that I had to lay sort of a scene of what the visual is.
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Totally get it.
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So now let's get back to the analysis.
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Who gets off on that he's better in his mind than this person with down syndrome, who if
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anybody knows those people are definitely are in touch with God and have a big soul.
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And I look at this soulless guy that looks deformed and ugly to me.
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The down syndrome guy with his open face, listening and giving honest answers.
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That sounds like God to me.
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And then the other guy says to somebody, I want to strangle.
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My soul says that's the enemy.
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And these people sit there making fun of this guy and that's everything I'm talking about.
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I am so tired of it, how they take the innocence of somebody like this.
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Alex is doing this thing, this infantilizing of people with down syndrome.
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He's deep into that.
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But at the same time, they're not making fun of him.
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They're giving him information that is just based on statistics.
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Now it does cost a lot more for society to carry people with the need for help.
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And that's not wrong.
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That's not bad.
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The thing about this is what is such a clear point of view on the right.
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Which is that, and the way he's describing it, the down syndrome person, whomever he
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may be, doesn't matter that he has down syndrome.
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The point being, he is simple.
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He does not have a complex view of the world.
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And that's the point.
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By virtue of not knowing a... He's like a child.
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That is seeing God.
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The globalists can't get to him.
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The scientist, the person who describes this as a complex situation, wherein he says, okay,
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well there are relative positives, there are relative negatives.
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We have to account for this, we have to account for that.
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The important part is figuring out what it is that makes the most sense, really.
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I would imagine, in the documentary, it's different scientists they talk to.
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This is an economic scientist.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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And then they go to... And even then, regardless of that, that's
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something that if you are a scientist, you should consider.
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Like no matter how... Look, as far as the tax bill is concerned, when we discuss that,
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the thing that I consider constantly is the idea of... The point of this is to destroy
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entitlement spending.
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It's to destroy Social Security, to destroy Medicare, to destroy Medicaid.
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If we look at the track records of the people pushing for it, it seems like that's what
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they're out for.
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Right.
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Now, I have to ask myself the question then, is that bad for me?
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Get rid of Medicare.
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Get rid of Social Security.
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Get rid of Medicaid.
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You have a job.
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I am... I'm fine.
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You're golden.
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And who is covered by Social Security?
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Who is covered by Medicare?
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Who is covered by Medicaid?
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Old people.
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More than anyone else.
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Disabled.
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Minorities.
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The elderly.
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The elderly.
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Is it then a good idea to say that the elderly should take my money in order to just continue
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living?
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Well, see now- Because that is essentially... Like if you
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go by what Kurt Vonnegut himself said was- You're getting into really fucked up territory.
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That's my point.
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The point is if you are at all reasonable, you get into fucked up territory and you think
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about it.
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Well, no, no, no.
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And Alex Jones' point is never thinking about it is the voice of God.
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Here's why it's fucked up territory is because he's arguing that when socialism comes around
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and they just are going to be able to be like, nah, you're too much of a burden, we're going
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to kill you, or whatever.
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That's kind of what's going to happen with capitalism in the way that we're going.
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That is the direction that this tax bill takes.
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You are not going to be hurt by it.
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I at the end probably won't be hurt by it either.
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I have enough of a net beneath me that's not really going to hurt me.
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But the people who are going to be hurt are the people that Alex pretends are going to
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be the victims of the socialist takeover.
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And like, oh no, you're too much of a burden on society.
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Like that sort of thing.
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I think based on everything I have experienced in my life, the people on the left, it's easy
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to paint with a broad brush.
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There are bad people on the left and it gives a shit.
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But generally the people that I have met on the left and within some socialist folk have
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no interest in getting rid of down syndrome people.
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People with down syndrome.
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No.
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That is not like, that's not on their agenda.
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Just because they're more expensive to have survived doesn't mean like, kill them.
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I think that's what my point is.
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No, no.
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I think I found what your point is.
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Yes.
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It's applying a capital-
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Tell me what my point is.
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No, I'm just kidding.
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It's not applying a capitalist mentality towards democratic socialism.
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I think it's applying this mentality of like, you are too expensive, you must go.
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That's a capitalist mentality when the system should be taking care of everybody.
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And that is what I think we should be working towards.
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And the, I think my-
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Yes, you are more expensive, but who gives a shit?
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I think that's kind of more my thought process though, is at the same time, if you are not
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capable of considering, like to me, the idea that I am aware that Medicaid, Medicare and
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social security not only do not benefit me, but in many cases contribute to me having
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less money.
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And yet at the same time, I am still capable of recognizing how they are far more beneficial
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to society as a whole, as opposed to just myself, allows me to converse with both ideas.
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I think we're going to get to what Alex is mad about, about that here in a little bit.
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Right.
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Because I think he doesn't want to be a part of society.
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And I think that's one of the biggest issues that we talk about, is that there is an idea
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of maybe like legit, without question.
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It's that Anne Randian shit.
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No.
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And if you go by, if I go by everything that directly benefits me, like 100% directly benefits
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me, I should be a Republican, right?
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Like I'm a straight white dude.
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Yeah.
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I am within the ages of 18 to 34.
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You're gainfully employed.
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I have a job.
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Like all of the...
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You're heterosexually engaged.
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All of the stuff that they do...
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Not engaged to be married, but you're engaged with a woman.
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Yeah.
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In all respects, what their policies do is affect me in the current tense.
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And if I was dumb, I would say that's the best way to go.
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The reality is that in the larger sum of things, that is a non-existent position that will
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only benefit me for the next five years, and then it's gonna fuck me over like everybody
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else.
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Like that's my biggest issue.
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But it might not.
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It might not.
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It'll just fuck over everybody else, and that will end up fucking you over.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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But you still personally may gain a little bit, but what do you gain when everyone else
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is in pain?
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It goes directly back to trickle down in economics and how it doesn't make any goddamn sense.
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Right.
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Fine.
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You're...
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Your idea of...
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Okay.
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You wanna make money as a business, right?
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So if you produce something, you want people to buy it.
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At the same time, you want profit on what you produce.
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So you reduce your taxes, right?
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That winds up meaning that the people who buy it don't have as much money.
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So the people who buy it don't have as much money, and they can't buy it anymore.
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So it destroys you.
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But in the short term, you get a lot more money.
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If you get a lot of people who buy shit to have more money, it's the difference between
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wealth and income.
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Wealth is destructive.
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Income is fantastic.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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If you increase income...
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Work and labor.
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Everybody does great.
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If you increase wealth, a few people do great.
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And that's what the question with...
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There's the disconnect.
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That's what this type of neurodiversity is about as well.
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Yeah.
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But if you increase...
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There's a very clear parallel between the two, and it frustrates me because it's a short-sighted
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view of things saying that it doesn't exist.
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If there's a way to edit someone's genes when you know that they're going to have Down syndrome
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and make it so they don't have Down syndrome, good.
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You should do that.
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I think that is an ethical position.
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That's an interesting thought.
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But I don't think that if you find out that your kid is going to have Down syndrome and
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then you abort them, I don't think that necessarily is an ethical position.
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That's an interesting question as well.
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It's incredibly complicated because I don't think that...
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The reason that when I...
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I'm trying to pivot back towards the clip.
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No.
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I understand.
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I took us off on a way different tangent.
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Apologies.
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When I started this and talked about...
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To everyone who had no interest in that thought.
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When I started this and talked about how you and I are mentally ill and a lot of it comes
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from our genetics and it's just the card we were dealt in our life.
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We have an ego stance about how I wouldn't be who I was if I didn't have those struggles
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and what have you, but if we were born and didn't have those, probably pretty cool.
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Probably be pretty fine.
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Who knows?
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Because there wouldn't be the suicide attempts.
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There wouldn't be the years wasted of our lives.
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That's true.
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There is that.
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And I don't really understand how my creativity has really been bolstered by those things.
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If it has or if it has, yeah, who knows?
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I've probably just hurt a bunch of other people because of it.
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Most likely.
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So the idea that neurodiversity is great and it should exist at the core.
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Or at least we think so, you know?
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It should exist more than it shouldn't in terms of killing all abnormal babies or whatever,
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if you want to call it babies, zygotes.
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Which is why we should kill Ethan Hawke.
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Anyways, continue.
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I love Before Sunrise.
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I like most Ethan Hawke movies.
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Ethan Hawke is great.
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Ethan Hawke is great.
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I've gotten a lot of shit for saying how much I love Ethan Hawke.
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Training day.
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Come on, man.
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I don't know about that.
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But it becomes a very complicated conversation, I think, in terms of what is technically possible
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and what is worth exploring.
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I don't think it's worth exploring aborting every person who has Down syndrome.
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I think it is worth exploring the idea of gene modification.
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But not just because of Down syndrome folk, but because of the other mutations that can
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happen that will just make you destroyed for your life.
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But then you and I get into the question of, is that or is that not killing everybody who
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has Down syndrome?
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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So if you take me, I'm a bipolar person.
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I will kill you in a second.
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Not a bad idea.
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My life would be better.
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Imagine if we'd never met.
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You would be married.
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You'd have two kids by now.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Know what you're saying?
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No, I mean, so if you remove bipolar syndrome from me, have you killed me?
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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Like, the point being, sure, sure, I physically, the human being that I am, is not dead.
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And yet at the same time, the human being that I am now is retroactively destroyed.
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It's like a time travel question.
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I know.
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It's that what could have been also, it's a proving a negative is what it is.
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That's the argument that's not worth having.
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The argument that is worth having is about.
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People with Down syndrome or not, I mean, they cost more to keep alive to other human
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beings.
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Yes.
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And that's not that bad.
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Right.
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That's not that bad.
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But I also think that their lives would probably be better if they hadn't been born with Down
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syndrome.
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I mean, now that's another good question.
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You know what?
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Would their lives be better?
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But you know what else?
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I don't think their lives are shit because they have Down syndrome.
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Exactly.
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Because they are living their lives.
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They have autonomy.
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They have a perfect ability to love, to work, to exist.
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But I mean, I don't know.
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It's so complicated.
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Well, and then you get into the question of what is the, to what extent is not having
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Down syndrome detrimental to you?
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So you're arguing we should all have Down syndrome.
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Well, let me ask you a question.
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Would you be happier in, like many people that I've known with Down syndrome, find far
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more happiness out of simpler things than I do?
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Like would I be a happier person?
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Would I be a more satisfied person?
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I think you're buying into a little bit of the infantilizing myth there.
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That's my issue is that I am never certain what mythology I am buying into in regards
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to a mental illness that I don't have.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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It's really complicated.
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It's really complicated.
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So let's solve it within this seven and a half hour long podcast.
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From all the research I can do and all the myths I can sort of ingest and work through
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... First of all, people with Down syndrome are humans, and they are just like us.
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All the people I know are pretty cool.
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And then beyond that, I don't think that the left wants to kill them.
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I feel like the entire conversation we've had has been about how killing them is a bad
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idea.
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But at the same time- Ultimately.
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But at the same time, the idea of- Or just singling out any group for murder-
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Right.
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... or rich white Republicans is a bad idea.
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It's all a bad idea, but at the same time, the idea in utero gene therapy that could
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possibly... It's not even get rid of people who have Down syndrome, but there are other
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genetic deformities, and deformities even seems like a terrible word.
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I know.
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I know, right?
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But there are those things that will make your life completely miserable.
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You will just be living... And it's not Down syndrome, folks.
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Right.
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But it's the same sort of thing.
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Right.
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And so researching towards that doesn't seem bad to me.
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Right.
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But now when you apply it to like, oh, this person will be depressed, kill them.
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Right.
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But- Right.
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... we won't get there.
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Multiple sclerosis.
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We won't- Like, just consider all of these different
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diseases that are pain.
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Yeah.
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You're otherwise- Life of pain.
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Yeah.
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You're otherwise, and yet at the same time- Do you deserve-
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Without being able to conquer that life of pain, are you capable of transcending beyond
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it?
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You know, it's like a whole fucking insanity.
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I don't know.
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It's- I don't know.
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Well, we've spent- Anyways, you should still eat genetically
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modified corn.
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The point being, it's still... Okay.
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We've spent a half hour not knowing which way to land on this.
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But I think at the same time, we've done more analysis than Alex is going to do about this
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corn.
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Oh, in the history of his entire life.
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He's going to do- So let's listen to this shit.
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Okay.
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And they piss all over it.
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Oh, is he still going to cry?
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Because they're a liberal audience.
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Jesus.
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That thinks it's all funny.
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When you're all going to be there, you're all- The cancer rates, you think they're bad
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now, they're only going- I mean, everybody thinks this is so funny.
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This is not funny.
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It's not funny.
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And if you sit there and start saying, we're going to abort every Down syndrome child,
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then it's going to be everybody with what they say is a genetic disorder.
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And they already say being aggressive is mentally ill.
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They already say Donald Trump being big headed and delivering on his promises and really
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believing in America is mental illness because they're mentally ill.
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They already sold out to evil.
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They already think it's crazy to have morals.
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They don't get the fact that that's the governing force that allows us to have a civilization.
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We're bigger killers than you, you dumb asses.
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We just have a governor and we will kill you.
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Make no mistake.
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You're pushing it.
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And when we start killing you, I don't even like to go down that road because I don't
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want to become what you imagine you are.
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But I'll tell you this.
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You think you're going to kill little mentally retarded children?
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Oh, don't use the word retarded.
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Just kill them.
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See how political correctness works?
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You think you're going to do stuff like that and you're going to get away with something.
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You're going to feel powerful.
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You're going to spiritually waddle around in front of somebody who's got an extra chromosome
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and look down on them because you're such a big man.
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But I guarantee you have a miserable, horrible life and you want to creep out your, your,
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your, you know, creepily bring out your eugenics again after it got a big fat black eye under
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hair Hitler and you want to shove it down our throats because once they got everybody
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involved, you know, you know, well, we're paying for all these old people were paying
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for all these mentally retarded people.
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And I can't tell you how many old people I know that vote for higher taxes thinking they're
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getting a piece of it.
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And then when they get their house taken, they commit suicide.
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They're genetically sabotaging us right now with the GMO to make us all genetically falling
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apart to then make us all have to go in for genetic engineering, even have kids.
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That's their admitted ultimate game plan.
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We admitted it and then we're going to be replicants thinking we're having kids and
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we're having replicants.
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They're already going, we're going to have a first child.
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They have embryos.
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They've frozen them.
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They're looking to implant them in surrogates, five lesbians.
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And if you're against it, you're against lesbians and we have the first baby with five daddies.
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It's not a person replicants, but see if the whole LGBQ, whatever, it's not about men,
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women having sex, men having sex.
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That's just the beginning.
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Oh, if you accept men having sex with each other, which you know, that's people that's
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humans, then it's, oh, sex with your car is okay, or gouge your eyeballs out, we'll pay
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for it with taxes.
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And they call that anti-gay rant.
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This is their deployed anti-human plan that I don't think comes from here.
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I think this must be like how they roll this out on other planets, like exterminator.
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The Orkin man just dropped by and this is it.
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Hell, maybe even the Orkin man gave us the Bible because metaphysically he's got to give
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us a warning.
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Here's how I'm going to kill you.
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Then it's all happening.
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I mean, for the say to stop there, maybe that's what it is.
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I mean, I'm not saying that's what it is, but yeah, you know, you get it.
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Yep.
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Maybe the Orkin man gave us the Bible and now you get it.
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The old, the old question.
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Did the Orkin man give us the Bible?
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Oh, the age is old question.
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Old salt.
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Oh, the old guy.
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Old Orkin man.
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It's so discouraging to me for us to have a 25 minute tangent where we're discussing
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like, oh, you know, there's this positive, there's this negative, there's this.
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And then Alex Jones comes back in with the Orkin man gave us the Bible.
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Like fucking.
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All right.
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And then at the end of the, as he's going into commercial, he's like, now you get it.
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Now you get it.
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Now you get it.
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What?
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All right.
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What?
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There we go.
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I can see why your show is more popular than ours.
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But I mean, to, to like give Alex a little bit of credit, I don't think we found a conclusion.
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I don't think there, I don't think there's a, there isn't a conclusion.
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There's no conclusion to draw that is not in some way utilitarian.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yes.
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Like even, even our, even our conversation ultimately wound up with what's more useful
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or what's better as opposed to some sort of a metaphysical ideal.
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No, I think my absolute conclusion is that if you are, God is real and Satan is behind
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us.
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I wasn't going to go that route.
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Oh, you weren't?
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No, I was going to go the route of if you are going to be born and your life is going
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to be a complete disaster because of your genetic makeup, which is not your fault and
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gene editing is possible and they can fix that, do it.
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Doesn't seem that controversial.
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That's my position.
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Right.
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I think that people born down syndrome probably have a fine position with having their lives
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be what they are.
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And I respect the hell out of that, but at the same time, I think that they probably
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would be better off if they had been born not having down syndrome.
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I think that might be slightly controversial and I want to be very clear.
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What I'm saying is not discounting their life as it is.
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Yeah.
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I'm, I'm, I'm saying that their life had it not been the case would be better in as much
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as like I related, you and I, had we not had the predisposition genetically towards depression,
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mental illness, our lives would be better.
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Now the next question though becomes if there are people making that decision, parents,
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are they going to be making a decision that is best for their kids life or best for their
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life?
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And so that's where we get into a different ethical circumstance.
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Well, that's a completely different argument that Alex is going to have.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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We have a very interesting argument about something and Alex is like, you know what
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that's like?
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It's like fucking cars.
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Like, okay, God damn it.
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Here's where I would say like, I think that parents should never view their children as
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extensions of themselves.
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I don't think that it should be like, this is a part of me necessarily, which I think
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Alex would disagree with 100%.
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Of course, because his ancestors are with him still and all that, race memory and shit.
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But I would say that if a parent, like I believe this in terms of just like abortion period,
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like if you are not able to care for a child, then you shouldn't have them.
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Right.
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Like if it comes down to it and you're an adult and you are able to care for a child
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who is just of normal capacity and you find out that they have down syndrome.
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And then we get into what normal and so on and so forth.
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Yeah.
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Well, but normal is this weird fucked up thing.
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Right.
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Alex yells about it because in the clip with the Down syndrome gentleman, I keep getting
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mad at myself.
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They say, Down syndrome, gentlemen.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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Guy with Down syndrome.
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Yes.
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Like it's-
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But they're like, what does a normal person cost?
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And Alex is like, fuck you, normal?
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Yeah.
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And they're like, well, how many times have you called gay and trans people not normal?
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So like, get off that.
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Well, you look at the, but then the question then becomes, you know, if you want to go
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down that road, trans people cost at this current time more to society than somebody
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who's raised in a two parent household and so on and so forth.
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I don't-
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Is that because they're trans?
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No.
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It's because of systemic prejudices within society that push them out into a level of
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homelessness and so on and so forth that wind up forcing them to cost more.
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So then your utilitarian argument goes back further towards why is society so prejudiced
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against them?
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Well-
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You know, like it keeps going back and back.
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I don't think that this, I agree with you to some extent, but I don't think this works
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because of this is all eugenics shit.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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And that isn't something necessarily, I don't think at this point you can tell from genes.
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Right.
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And so in utero, this is all about like trying to get rid of unfavorable entities in utero.
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Right.
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And I are having a very interesting eugenics conversation.
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And unfortunately, boy, eugenics is a rough thing to have a conversation about.
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I'm very worried that I'm-
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I'm not a huge fan of any eugenics conversation.
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I'm not either, but I'm very worried-
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I know, right?
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I'm very worried that I'm sounding like I am anti people with Down syndrome.
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No, of course not.
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And I'm not.
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I think it's just one of those things about-
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There are so many things that make up for the idea of, hey, it's expensive to keep you
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alive.
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Right.
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No, of course.
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In the same way that with people who are depressed, the same way with people who are borderline
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personality.
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Right.
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What you were bringing up about neurodiversity is absolutely true in terms of that stuff.
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What I have said already, and this is where I'm getting really fucked up, is the idea
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that I might be projecting a tiny bit, and that's possible.
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But when I say that they think that my personality is based on the experience I've had, I wouldn't
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want to not have this life.
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That's based on only living the life they have.
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And that isn't saying, fuck you, you're wrong to have the life you have.
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It's more no one wants this life.
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No one wants to be depressed.
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No one wants to be borderline.
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You don't want to be bipolar.
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No.
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I've never wanted to spend two weeks wishing for death and a weak fucking recovering from
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trying to kill myself.
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I've never wanted that.
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But at the same time, it's created who you are.
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Exactly.
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It's that rough, incredibly difficult space that I'm admittedly projecting our experiences
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of mental illness onto people with Down syndrome.
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And I'm not sure that's fair.
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I'm not sure.
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I might be wrong.
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Of course not.
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I might be wrong.
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No.
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But I think our ultimate conversation-
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We all would love to be born normal, you and I.
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At the same time?
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Should we?
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We've met plenty of normal people.
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They kind of suck.
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They're a little boring.
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I know, right?
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I wish I was as a little more normal.
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A little more normal.
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Not too much more normal.
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Not all the way.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, I don't know.
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I think ultimately our conversation boils down to, I don't know the answer.
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I'm interested to know why I don't know the answer.
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I think there's a lot of interesting things about neurodiversity.
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And at the end of the day, I do not feel like I have any qualifications to make a decision
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for anyone else.
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And I strongly don't think this documentary was about eugenics.
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No, of course not.
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I think it was about three minutes that I-
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Hold on.
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And here's the ultimate answer here, right?
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If you are parents, even more so, if you're a mother and you make a decision about what's
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in your goddamn body, I have no judgment on you.
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Cosine.
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You have your ability to make a decision, and were I to tell you what is the best or
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et cetera, I'm in the wrong.
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Totally.
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So if you want to raise a child who has Down syndrome, and if you want to deal with the
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fact that maybe the child that you raised with Down syndrome resents you for raising
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them with Down syndrome, or if you want to deal with the child that resents you for raising
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them normally, or if you want to deal with the child who resents you for raising them
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whatever way, that's your choice.
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And if you don't want to do that, that's your choice, and so on and so forth.
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I am not going to decide for anyone else how they should live.
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And further, the recognition that it might cost you more is not at all an abdication
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of like, or an indication that you should kill all of them.
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Absolutely not.
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Or the idea that you should, if you were to give them up for adoption, and then the society
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at large should not have any responsibility towards them.
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It all comes down to this weird confluence of it is irresponsible for you and I to make
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that decision for society at large.
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I think it's irresponsible for most people, or even governing bodies or anything.
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Exactly.
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Jordan, you're fucked up if you think that there isn't a whole bunch more of Alex trying
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to wrestle with this.
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No, I think I'm correct.
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You're fucked up if you think there isn't a whole bunch more of you and I trying to
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wrestle with this.
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This is degrading.
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God damn it, why did you take us from such a happy place to this?
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This next clip is degrading, but it's fun in as much as we really get to see how Alex
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Jones can't read in real time.
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Okay.
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See, I don't want to be in your communist system where everything I do is controlled
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because I'm connected to somebody else.
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I want my own house, my own life, my own children, my own wife, and they've got me, we do what
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we want.
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We're free.
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Got that?
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That's why collectivism is a unmitigated nightmare.
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Society.
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I'm going to go to your calls, but right now let's go to just a clip of this.
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It's in Dutch.
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So I will, uh, I will obviously read the, uh, read the words that are below on the screen.
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Here it is.
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The Dutch National Institute of Public Health, the environmental request, the latest downer
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circulated what the cost of the care for the downer is, they call it downer, and that has
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not happened.
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Today, Shored will hear the result.
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If you want to know what the spelling is on the advantage of the person, it's too fast.
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That's for sure.
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I want to know.
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Well then you have to take this number and divide it with that number.
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And again, I asked him before they go to, you know, how much you cost and he shows him,
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he costs way more and see, he just learns he's a bad person.
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You're bad because you know, you have to take care of that works because he got rid of the
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family.
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He created socialism.
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So now you have to take care of him.
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And you want him dead because you're not his daddy.
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So he cost us society, 48,000 euros per year.
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This is a considerable amount, but it's high compared to normal persons.
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They call them normal.
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You're not normal.
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See, but it's okay because liberals can call somebody they want to kill, not normal.
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You can calculate that by taking a big number from 90 million and divide that amount with
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the number of sentences in the Netherlands, possibly 17 million that will give you approximately
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about 5,000 euros per person a year.
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So Alex isn't keeping up with the subtitles, but what's happened is this guy is a chalkboard
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and he has laid out the cost to society in terms of healthcare.
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It costs 48,000 euros a year to keep someone alive who has down syndrome versus 5,000 euros
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a year for someone who is just able bodied.
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Which is a suspect statistic to begin with.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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It's clunky on its core.
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And this chalkboard analysis is not super, it's not like that Matt Damon movie.
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The Adjustment Bureau?
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Good Will Hunting Bureau.
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The Good Will Hunting Bureau?
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Yeah.
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Oh shit.
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Get back to the clip.
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Now that'd be a good one.
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Yeah.
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And old people too.
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You got to take care of them.
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And blind people.
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You're a very valuable man if they make fun of him.
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Hit pause.
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See, I'm going to be honest, I'm not making threats.
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I just, when I watch this, I want to kick both of those smart ass piles of crap's asses
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when I watch something like this.
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He's an equal opportunity.
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The Down syndrome guy doesn't have the ego.
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He doesn't, for whatever reason, he doesn't have the chicken you know what crap dimension
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behavior.
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So he's just taking it as his, these are his friends.
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He's like, I am valuable, wow.
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And they're sitting there making fun of him going, you're very valuable my friend.
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I want to be clear, they're not making fun of him.
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It seems as though the person in question is, first of all, aware of what they're talking
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about and how it is a joke.
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It's not even a joke.
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Well, not a joke.
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I mean more like how he's interacting with it as such that he understands what they're
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talking about and gets why it is that that would be a situation in question.
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And they're not ridiculing him.
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They're like, hey, think about this.
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And he's like, I can't think about that.
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And they're like, okay, cool.
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The exchange is, you're a pretty valuable person.
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And he's like, I had no idea.
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That sort of thing.
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And I also think that he was along, I have to assume, in this documentary, he's along
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for the other parts of it that aren't being covered by right wing media.
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And they're not making fun of him.
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If you watch the video, they're not making fun of him.
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Of course not.
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What kind of cruel fucking person would make a documentary where they were making fun of
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him?
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They're like, hey, let's bring a Down syndrome person along and just shit on them.
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Yeah.
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If that were the case.
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We want you dead.
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If that were the case, that stops being a left or right issue and starts being into
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a what the fuck kind of monster would do this issue.
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Guess what?
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We would have known about that when it came out a year ago.
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I know, right?
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As opposed to finding out about it later.
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Like maybe the Dutch media would have gone fucking insane over this documentary instead
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of Alex, like really needed to fill time on his show.
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Exactly.
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My friend, they didn't say, hey, you're a piece of crap.
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We don't want to pay for you.
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Please.
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You can be honest.
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You look at him and you make fun of him on Dutch television.
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Every one of us has what they call genetic disorders.
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Every one of us.
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This is the perfect system to tell us how we're all equal and can put Drano on our eyes
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or cut our genitals off and have taxpayers pay for it.
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It's all beautiful.
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Don't criticize anybody.
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But we're going to kill the old people.
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The case for killing granny cover a Newsweek and we're going to kill people with genetic
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disorders because we're liberal and we're going to have suicide nets.
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At Apple factories and Fox com in China and we're going to have a slave labor at Amazon,
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but it's all OK because we're liberal.
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And then you've got a bunch of weird people that have been domesticated following.
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The left and now they don't even they admit they're just a power cult.
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They're like, we're not getting anything.
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We want to get stuff.
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We've been told if we take you over, we get stuff as if you idiots are going to get anything
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once they blow the free market.
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They want a monopoly.
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They want a centralized technocracy run by an A.I.
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supercomputer they believe is going to hook them in and make them gods.
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This is a cult.
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We need to stop it.
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If we don't take care of the Down syndrome people, no one's going to be taken care of.
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I feel like an A.I. would take better care of the Down syndrome people than Alex would.
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I agree.
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And that's right.
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And here's the other piece I want to put into play right about now.
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Who is going to take care of them?
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Who?
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You and I.
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Social programs.
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Yep.
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So what is he advocating for?
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Well, he wants social programs to take care of them, but he also wants to remove any and
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all funding for social programs.
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I want none of my money going towards all this stuff, but I right.
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But I want society to take care of them.
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It makes perfect sense.
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He's so convoluted in this bullshit that we're like, I recognize my slight bias and thinking
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that everyone would be better with not having whatever ailments they have.
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I've heard of that.
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But at the same time, I also think, you know.
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Take care of everybody.
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I love it.
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It's great.
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I don't know.
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It's it's the central.
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How fucking stupid is this?
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It's the central economy and convoluted is it's every it's every argument that you've
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seen in a Republican debate ever.
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Right.
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Which is no, we need to take care of the elderly.
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We need to take care of these people who are homeless.
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We need to take care of them.
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Now, admittedly, we need to cut spending and remove any funding to take care of those people.
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But we do need to take care of you have to trigger certain bases in terms of like, hey,
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be afraid about this thing, but also like, oh, right, of course.
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Don't pay for it.
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Don't know.
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You don't want your taxes raised.
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Now, admittedly, if those taxes were raised, we would have more money to take care of the
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people who you want taken care of.
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He's engaged in what is essentially a half hour rant.
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Right.
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About how, like everyone wants these down syndrome people gone.
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And we realize and statistics do back this up.
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They are much more expensive.
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Right.
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Just from health care costs, dude.
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I want to not negative.
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That's not bad.
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Every, every night I walk home past two or three homeless people.
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Sure.
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I can't afford to give them dollars every time.
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No.
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And that would help everybody.
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If everybody paid a dollar more in their taxes, we would have more dollars to take care of
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homeless because you know why?
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If everyone paid dollars more in their taxes, the all that money could go to a shelter as
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opposed to your dollar going towards maybe a sandwich or whatever.
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Big picture.
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Everyone coming together could help more than individualist man.
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That's sure sounds like communism or socialism or any of those evil things, which is the
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answer.
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It seems like socialism is maybe the way to go.
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But Alex is for that, if you removed it from the oligarchical are oligarchical issues that
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we have with communism and have had for for the million time.
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Communism is an economic system, not a government system.
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No, that's authoritarianism and totalitarianism.
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But be may Alex is advocating essentially for taking care of people who can't take care
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of themselves.
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Yeah.
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Which is great.
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But he doesn't realize that it's it requires everything.
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It requires social programs.
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We create economies about love.
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They used to have hospitals until a thousand years ago.
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They created the hospitalers.
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Great.
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That's not how that it created whole markets.
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Civilization is about taking care of people, civilization, but notice the very groups telling
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you about social safety nets like Bill Gates are always the ones saying, if we kill this
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old lady and don't give her the last year of care, we can hire 10 teachers.
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Sure, you don't make her stay alive.
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See, there's some truth to it, but you don't kill her and don't give her health care because
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she no longer the bioethics board decided help society.
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So back that up 20 seconds.
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But even in what he's saying, it's it's.
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It's right in line with his philosophies, this idea of withholding care, right?
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Like he's saying that, like, oh, they don't kill them.
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They just don't keep them alive, which is a you know, it's a it's a thin line.
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But it's like you would want to say that that's the best idea to go with.
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You don't give a shit that people who can't afford care can't get care.
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If you if you say what he just said, what is he doing and support the Republican tax
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bill?
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You're dumb or you're evil either way.
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Go fuck yourself.
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You should die.
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Be unclear.
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Here's the Down syndrome.
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He's easy.
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He's not a human, according to them.
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The normal people.
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He's the downer.
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You are a downer.
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Here in the Netherlands, you got that.
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That's Russian.
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Do you vote?
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Yes.
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I was more full.
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You.
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You are.
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You are a downer.
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You are not normal.
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You.
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You cost as much more people than get paid to take care of having an economy about humans.
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They want to get rid of an economy of humans, just like nobody bags your groceries.
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Nobody cleans the table at this at the restaurant because, oh, you just don't have that.
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You throw it away.
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It's all about no hospitality, no realness, and you're getting rid of a world run by humans.
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Also recently, I believe the businesses can now take tips away from service employees.
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No big deal, no big deal.
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Oh, now robots can run the store because nobody demands to have a human.
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Oh, see, we may.
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Well, the burger went down 10 cents.
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You're killing yourself thinking you're getting ahead.
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You're killing us.
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And they go, look, you're a very important person, but because both men are academic
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liberals, they can go, he doesn't get it.
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And these are the very left to put the floor on your water, the cancer viruses, your vaccines,
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nasty people.
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And they love him because they can feel more superior.
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But I just see the innocence of this man.
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Yes, thank you.
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I'm important.
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He doesn't get the sociopathic stuff.
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Somehow the Satanism transmission doesn't get to him.
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See, God gave us these people to show us what someone only connected to God would look like
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a child.
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Fuck you.
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The enemy transmission.
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Fuck you.
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These Dan syndrome people are a child.
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They're children.
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They give us a view into what beautiful God-like abilities and existences would be.
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How fucking degrading is that?
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That's so fucking stupid.
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True.
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And they're there laughing at this guy who doesn't really have total free will.
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He's...
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What?
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What?
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He doesn't have total free will.
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He just...
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I am important.
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And they're telling him how he needs to die, how he should have been killed, how he should
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never have been born.
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I didn't tell him that.
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He's like, you're my friends.
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You're my friends.
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No, they're not your friends.
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They're cowardly wolves that I swear, I swear we're going to get these people because they
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want all of us.
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You need to know that.
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God, please.
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You fucking idiot.
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Let's continue.
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Go ahead and play the club.
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I had not expected that.
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Is there another group of Netherlands that approach that amount?
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Back it up.
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Back it up, guys.
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30 seconds.
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I want to play that part.
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But they go, you're a very important person, and he's like feeling good.
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They're telling you're a sack of crap.
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You're not normal.
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You're not a human.
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You're nobody.
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We got a whole show here about aborting every one of you.
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We want to kill you.
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That's not what the show's about.
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But they don't do it that way.
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It's all like Stewart, everybody else, and Colbert.
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It's all cute and funny.
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And all the wannabes watch all the followers, all the betas watch and think, I get ahead
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being a psychopath.
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I get ahead being a piece of crap.
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Go ahead and play the club.
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So you cost society 48,000 euros.
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Wow.
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That's a considerable amount, but it's high compared to normal persons.
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And you're not normal.
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You can calculate that by taking the big number to 90 billion.
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And divide that amount with the number of citizens of the Netherlands.
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And that approximately 17 million will give you approximately about 5,000 euros per person
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a year.
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So you say that he is almost 10 times as expensive as others.
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Those expenses are indeed 10 times higher.
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Are you, you're a valuable man.
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I not expected that.
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I'm somebody.
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They're like literally talking about killing him right there.
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They're not.
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I'll be back and take your calls and Paul Watson will take over.
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God will deliver vengeance to those people.
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Stop the little children, we'll be back.
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He's losing it there at the end.
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So now we've gone through the hardest part of the show, which is that I had like 14 minutes
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of his Down syndrome analysis that we've turned into maybe 40 minutes.
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You said analysis, which is frustrating to me.
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Not analysis.
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What do you want to say on the other side of this?
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I think we've said our piece.
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I think we've made it clear where we stand.
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And I think Alex has made it clear that if anybody should be killed, it's him.
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And he's lying the entire time through this.
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It's him.
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It's him.
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He's using people with Down syndrome as a prop.
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He's propping.
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I know.
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It's degrading.
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It's so, it's so amazing how he is, and I, it's like he's grabbing this, this magical,
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I, all I can, all I can think of while I hear him say this bullshit is you don't care.
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He doesn't.
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No.
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Of course not.
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Like why are you talking about this?
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You know why he doesn't care?
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Because this documentary came out a year ago.
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Well, not just that, but like even if it, even if the Docker, even if the doc came out
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yesterday, he doesn't care about those people.
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It's just like every time every time we've talked about mass shootings, the first thought
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he has is how can I use this?
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And there's no, he's not once said, let's get back to mass shootings for a second.
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Even the bullshit that shitty Republicans say, which is like, no, think about our hopes
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and prayers go out to you.
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He's never said that.
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Think about mass.
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He's never even done the slightest bit.
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Think about mass shootings.
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So like he believes like even go back before mass shootings, he believes that the Oklahoma
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city bombing was fake and set up by the globalists.
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He believes that the Waco situation was set up by the globalists.
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Yep.
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These are from the nineties.
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So like it, like let's forget about the fact that he has just forgotten about all of the
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Sandy hooks that he said is fake or racism or Las Vegas is fake and the knockout game
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is the biggest problem in the world.
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Let's forget about that stuff.
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If you actually believed that any of these things was fake, prove one of them, prove
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one of them, and then you have destroyed the entire world.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Because if you prove any of it, then it's like, oh shit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Oh shit.
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Right.
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And the entire underpinning for society is torn apart.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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And hey Alex, I'd like to offer you this challenge three hours into our dumb ass podcast.
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How long are we into this?
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Prove the globalists exist.
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I think we got fired.
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We took too long.
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We're off air.
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Ah shit.
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Prove the globalists exist.
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Paul Joseph Watson took over for the fourth hour of this show.
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It's snarky and Islamophobic.
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And he can go fucking die.
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But he can't prove any of this stuff.
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No, of course not.
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So it's always plate spinning and that's why he's not still talking about the Las Vegas
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shooting because he would be.
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Of course not.
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If you're like, oh, I can prove this.
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I can prove this.
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Dude, if he could prove it, the only thing we would talk about is that fucking shit.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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If we're obsessed with reality.
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If he was right, I'd be in.
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Of course.
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So now I want to give you one more clip, the last clip where, and I, look, we've been talking
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about Down Cinder a bunch and that to me is disgraceful on his part.
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But this last clip gets more into where I legitimately am now at the point where I think
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Alex Jones should be arrested.
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Okay.
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I'm done playing games with Alex based on this last clip, because the rules about what
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you can and can't do in terms of broadcast are pretty clear.
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And Alex has crossed that line in this last clip from December 15th.
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God, I, I, I almost don't even want to hear this.
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He's crossed the line.
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It's over.
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I don't want to kill weak people, I want to kill parasite thugs.
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That's who I want to kill.
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Right.
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And I'm ready.
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They're pushing, they're pushing the civil war.
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I'll be honest.
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I'm ready.
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I'm done with these people.
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They want to, they want, they want death.
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They want blood.
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If you want blood, you got it.
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Blood on the streets, blood on the stage, blood on your feet.
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You got it.
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I want innocence and I want justice, but I'm sick of their globalist Islam promoting all
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their anti-family crap.
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They're putting down little people that they're just bullies.
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Watch those men on TV bullying that.
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That's that's it.
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That's it.
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You know, I say politically, I say a lot of shit.
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Yeah.
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And you should go to prison too.
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I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure that at every single point of the shit that I've said, it's
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been very clear throughout my history, I am, I am being full of shit.
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You know, like that's, that's who I am.
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Or you have me around to sort of talk you down and contextualize what you're saying.
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No, I mean, not even just that.
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I've never, I don't really believe in that.
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Like I can't bring myself to it as much as maybe even I want to.
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I don't think it's the right way to do things.
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Right.
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Alex clearly does.
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And for a long time, it's been unclear whether he believes in blood in the streets.
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Yeah.
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He's advocating right there for straight up murder of these globalists, which as we know,
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even in my worst fucking moments, I realized like, this isn't the right way to do things.
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No, and you notice it.
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It's not going to help.
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No, but for fun, let's listen to this clip one more time because like, listen to the
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music kick in real hard as soon as he gets into the like, let's kill everybody on it.
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He wants shed.
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We need to both probably work out a little more.
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We're both gaining.
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Oh shit.
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Wrong clip.
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Yeah.
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I don't want to kill people.
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I want to kill parasite thugs.
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That's who I want to kill.
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Right.
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And I'm ready.
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They're pushing.
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They're pushing the civil war.
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I'll be honest.
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I'm ready.
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I'm done with these people.
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They want to, they want, they want death.
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They want blood.
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If you want blood, you got it.
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Blood on the streets, blood on the stage, blood on your feet.
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You got it.
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I want innocence and I want justice, but I'm sick of their globalist Islam promoting anti-family
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crap.
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They're putting down little people that the music kicked in.
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As soon as he said I want their Islam off the streets.
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Someone behind the scenes knows like, this is going to, this is going to rile people
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up.
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Anyway.
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That's the end of the show.
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Uh, Alex Jones can go fuck himself.
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Alex Jones, go fuck yourself.
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That seems as good an exit as any.
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We haven't listened to John Rappaport in a while.
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Also, I got a piss.
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So Rappaport, Alex Jones, both go fuck yourself.
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Hey, if you want to follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight, we have a website
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knowledge fight.com.
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We both, uh, Dan writes content.
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I write content.
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We both put it up there.
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Uh, you can follow, go to iTunes.
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You can download our episode on iTunes.
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You can subscribe.
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You can leave a review.
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You can do whatever you want.
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Uh, Dan, there's a guy who is really fucking annoying and Alex Jones can go fuck himself.
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We also ask yourself, we miss him because he's so boring these days.
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John Rappaport get more interesting.
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Go fuck yourself.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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I love saying.
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