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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys, knowledgefight.
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Dan and Jordan, knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledgefight.com, I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledgefight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes.
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I'd like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about
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Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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Why don't you go first?
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My bright spot is that Wednesday we went and saw the Cubs game.
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And I?
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How was the weather?
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Beautiful.
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Oh, okay.
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Because it was chilly yesterday.
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That was Wednesday.
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Yesterday was chilly and rainy and terrible.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Wednesday, perfect.
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Nice.
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Beautiful 75 degrees, perfect sun, not too much cloud, I even got a little sunburned.
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I haven't been outside in years.
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Whoa.
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Did you catch any balls?
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Unfortunately no, but it was a really fun game.
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Yeah?
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It was a good time.
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It was nice.
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Yeah.
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I feel like I would like to maybe take a game in this spring.
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I think we should.
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Maybe that'd be nice.
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Absolutely.
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It'd be great.
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Yeah.
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It'd be great.
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Just being outside, seeing the air.
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I think-
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The crack of the bat.
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It's just so, I mean, when you have a good ball, when you have a good game, when you
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have a good day at Wrigley, it's just, there's just nothing quite like it.
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It's just perfect.
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It's a magic.
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It's beautiful.
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It's Wrigley magic.
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It is beautiful.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, that's great.
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Absolutely.
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It's a great time.
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It was a good day.
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Except for then I got food poisoning, spent all day yesterday throwing up and that's why
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this episode's late.
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Apologies to everybody.
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It's on me.
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Did you get bad sushi at the Cubs game?
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No, absolutely not.
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Okay.
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Because then I'd be a little bit more pissed off at you.
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That's on me.
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That's my fault.
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Yeah, yeah.
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If I did that, if I was like, oh, I am-
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Peanuts, Cracker Jacks, hot dog.
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All good.
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No sushi.
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No sushi.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I'm going to try this ballpark sushi.
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Not today.
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No, no, no.
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No, no, no, no.
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Nope.
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Yeah.
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So that's why we're a little late, but hey, it happens, man.
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It happens.
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Sometimes you got to dry heave for a day.
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For a full day?
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Yeah.
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It happens.
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It happens.
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It happens.
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So you cleaned out.
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Glad you're feeling better.
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I feel a lot better.
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How about you?
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I guess this is a little low stakes or whatever, but I have been inspired by Luke Rodkowsk.
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How dare you say his name?
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How dare you?
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I'm not actually inspired by him, but I've been taking walks lately.
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Yes.
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It's not because it is very coincidental that he was talking about the joy of walks.
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It is a little bit surprising, but yes.
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So I wanted to give him a big shout out.
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But I was taking a walk and I ran into one of those inflatable guys.
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Sure.
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Those wavy inflatable men outside of a car dealership.
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Tickled me.
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Tickled you?
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Yeah.
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I hadn't seen one up close in a while.
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Yeah.
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That's right.
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You don't have much reason.
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You're not driving.
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You're not walking past car dealerships at all.
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Generally I'm not.
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Generally speaking, no.
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So this is the first time you would have had opportunity to see one of those.
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The wacky inflatable waving guy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It brightens your day.
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Especially when you don't expect it.
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When it's out of nowhere, you're like, man, people make those.
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I think that is-
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Those exist.
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I think that's the problem with those, is that they go from being awesome and you enjoy
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them to being the most boring and ignorable thing that's ever existed in a very short
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period of time.
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I don't know.
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I think I could watch one for an hour.
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Oh yeah?
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Okay.
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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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Yes.
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We're going to be talking about May 8th, 2024.
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All right.
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Getting some check-ins about various things.
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All right.
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All right.
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And we'll deal with that in a moment.
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But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, can't wait to see you at the live show in Brooklyn, or so cool to see you at
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the live show in Brooklyn.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Oh, I see what that is.
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That's time.
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Time variable.
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Yeah, you never know.
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You never know with us.
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Next, Maddie from Kansas.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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And Suzanne Dee in Kansas.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Do we need to go to Kansas?
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I think we might.
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I think we have to just as part of the thing.
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Do a show in Lawrence?
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Just as part of the thing.
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Yeah, maybe.
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It's part of our thing?
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Yeah.
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We've got a couple technocrats in the mix, Jordan.
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So thank you so much to K and A, taking it day by day with two sisters of Celine in southwest
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Missouri.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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And I can't listen to Knowledge Fight without headphones because my family thinks I'm listening
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to Alex Jones clips.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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One sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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So on our last episode that we had about the present day, there were two things where we
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needed to watch the space and see what happened with it.
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First was the whistleblower with no internet.
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Right.
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They got their internet figured out and Alex had her on it, who cares?
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So that did actually pay off.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Fair enough.
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In a sense.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The other thing was that Alex's superpowers were developing.
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Yes.
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And we have a little bit of an update on that on the seventh.
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Already.
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Already.
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Well, maybe.
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Okay.
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I don't know.
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Okay.
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This is just a discussion of superpowers.
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I don't know if it's all the new stuff, but on the seventh, Alex is having a conversation
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with Roger Stone.
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Okay.
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And we're going to hear a little piece of this where he discusses some prophetic dreams
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he's been having.
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I think there's nothing that is beyond them, which is why I've said repeatedly, I pray
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for the president's safety and the safety of his family.
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All right.
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And that's why I'm going to go ahead and say this.
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I wasn't going to say it.
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I had a lot of dreams that come true and I'm not saying it's going to come true, but I
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had a dream a week ago and I had it again last night and I told this is I had a really
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horrible dream last week, but I couldn't remember much of it, but it was one of those waking
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dreams.
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It's really intense.
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You wake up with a sweat, really upset.
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I don't know that happens to me a couple of times a year and I've had them come true.
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I've also had them be narrowly averted, so I'm not trying to get into a bunch of metaphysical
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stuff here, but I had the dream again last night.
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I remembered almost all of it and it was a bomb on the Trump jumbo jet and it was in
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the dream.
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He trying to warn Trump they're going to blow his plane up and I'm just saying that I had
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the dream last week.
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I couldn't remember much of it.
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I had it again last night.
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I remembered most of it and the dream was me trying to desperately warn Trump.
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I guess I'm doing it now.
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I don't know, but he's got to check that airplane.
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Yeah, man, this is, this is, this is his new dream power.
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It's the same as his old dream power, I guess.
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We got orange hawk down.
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That's what's going on here.
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So Alex has been having prophetic dreams about a bomb on Trump's plane, although maybe it
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won't happen because not all of these dreams come true and maybe he's doing his part to
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avert it by just talking about it on the radio.
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Okay.
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I think I already know the answer to this, but if one of his dreams is narrowly averted,
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he counts that as coming true, right?
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So like if it doesn't happen?
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But, but it kind of like it almost happened.
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Like it's narrowly averted.
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I think if it doesn't even come close to happening, he probably counts it as coming true.
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Of course.
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I stopped it.
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Because he stopped it by telling Roger about it.
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Right.
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That's a good point.
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Yes.
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They all come true.
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That is in a way they all come true.
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Always.
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It's a self-fulfilling, prophetic dream.
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So Alex gives Roger a little bit more detail about, about this dream and Roger seems polite,
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but maybe unimpressed.
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Okay.
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No, I totally agree.
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So let me tell you what happened in the dream.
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Again, it was a very intense dream a week ago, but sometimes you remember it for a minute,
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but it's in a subconscious area.
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And then you lose it.
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I got up, I got a cup of coffee, I was going to write it down and then I couldn't remember
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it.
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I had it again last night and I was like seeing it in my dream that they're going to have
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somebody with a small bomb, but enough, a plastic explosive to, to, to blow out the
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bulkhead.
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And it's going to be the person doing it won't know it's going to be the press or somebody
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doesn't know they're going to slip a bomb into their handbag or, or into their backpack
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right as they go on.
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And so I'm just telling them, and I've had these dreams a lot, 20, 30 times in my life.
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They're there.
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I know it's like, and I'm not trying to be hysterical here, Roger.
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I'm just telling you that they need to check everybody's bags, getting on that aircraft.
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You understand me?
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Well, I will say this, the secret service detail around president Trump does an excellent
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job.
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Some of them having spent time with him, they are dedicated to his protection.
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They're extremely cautious.
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Alex.
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It's amazing how many pastors and other Christian prophets contact me knowing that I'm friends
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with the president and say, please warn the president to be careful.
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Please warn the president to be careful about his personal safety.
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So Alex, I think you've got to decide whether you want to call the secret service and tell
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them about a dream.
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Yeah, man.
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Do you want to do that?
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Do you want to call secret service and tell them you had a dream?
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I appreciate the, he had a lot of control over his tone for something that is that dripping
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with sarcasm.
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He had a lot of control.
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I mean, cause I would have really hit that hard.
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Oh, you want to call the secret service and tell them about a dream.
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You know, I think there's a lot of people who are having weird premonitions about Trump's
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safety, but you have to ask yourself, can you look yourself in the mirror after you
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call the police and tell them of a dream?
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I appreciate it.
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You know what?
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I realized something about adventure time.
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You know what it is?
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What?
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I'm sorry.
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I didn't mean to interrupt you.
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Roger's subtext is there's a time and a place for this and it's right here.
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Only right here.
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Sorry.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No, I mean, that's what I like about adventure time.
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They have a cosmic owl.
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If he shows up in your dream, it's going to come true.
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Everybody knows there's no like, Oh, maybe this one will come true.
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Maybe it won't.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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That would be helpful.
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But then Alex would just keep saying he saw the owl.
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Oh, that's true.
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Yeah.
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You could lie.
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I'm starting to see a problem with most of human society.
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Yeah.
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So this is the prophetic dream that we have from Alex on the seventh and now we jumped
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to the eighth and Alex had Roger on again on the eighth, obviously because Trump's trials
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are going on and stuff and you know, so there's a lot of Trump to cover.
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Sure.
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But the interview itself, I don't really care that much.
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It ends and just look at this trio of fucking awful guests.
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Alex has on the eighth.
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All right.
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I'm a veteran of 13 national presidential campaigns.
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I'm a pretty shrewd analysis of, of bowling data and trends.
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And I'm telling you, Donald Trump is headed back to the white house.
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Roger Stone, stone zone.com.
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Talk to you soon, my friend.
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Be safe.
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Thank you, Alex.
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God bless you.
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All right.
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Dr. Andrew Wakefield and another special guest are, he's got a new film coming out.
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The original OG when it comes to exposing poison shots is coming up next in the entire
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next hour after that.
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And then Nick Foyntez, two hours on the first amendment and beyond, please support the broadcast
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and realize I need your word of mouth, your prayers, and you to go get great products
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Wow.
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But man, look at that trio.
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Roger Stone, Andrew Wakefield, Nick Foyntez.
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That is what a lineup that is shithead city.
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Yeah.
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I won.
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I didn't know Wakefield was still out and about, Oh, he is.
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And he's up to some new tricks.
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I thought they were, I thought we had gotten rid of him.
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I thought we'd whack them old him.
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Serious society has for the most part gotten rid of him and relegated him into a niche
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area of, of media.
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But unfortunately that niche area of media is now the largest area of media growing and
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the standards that people of things people take seriously are diminishing.
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So he's, he's got a little bit more purchase than maybe he did a couple of years ago.
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Yeah.
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Serious society is still wants nothing to do with this piece of shit.
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No, it's almost, it's almost advantageous for him to have spent a few years in the,
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in the wilderness because now it's like, Oh, see, I'm back and I, and everybody's like,
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Oh, you canceled cause they were woke or whatever.
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And he's like, Hey, well, can't stop me.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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You do all that stuff.
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I get it.
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I get it.
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And then you get Nick Fuentes.
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We just got back on Twitter.
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What do we do?
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What are we doing?
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Elon Musk just let him back on Twitter.
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What are we doing with this kid?
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I don't know.
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Where does everybody like this happening?
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Very unwise for Alex to buddy up.
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It's going to, it's, it just, it has always been and will always be a bad idea for Alex.
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But he decides this is the, this is the roster and it w it's a lot of, it's a lot of guests
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for a show.
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It is a lot of guests for a show.
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Yeah.
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Two hours of Nick Fuentes on the first amendment.
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It's not a lot about, I mean, some of it's about the first amendment.
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Some of it's a pretty fucked up.
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I would, I would, if, if here's what I would say.
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If we were going to do a multiple hours on the first amendment, I would suggest that
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they talk about the first amendment, like the textual, like do they even read the, no,
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it's, I mean, most of the understanding of the first amendment is a, I can say whatever
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the fuck I want.
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But before we get to Nick, Andrew Wakefield comes in and the reason he's on is to promote
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a new movie that he's made.
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And this movie is a dramatic, it is not a documentary.
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It is a dramatized story about someone who was injured by a vaccine.
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And Alex is just, he's just thrilled with the cast of this thing.
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I noticed you've got some big actors, it looks really good.
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We do.
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We got, we got Eric Roberts, a wonderful actor.
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In fact, during the filming, he took a week off cause we didn't, we didn't need him.
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He went and shot two other movies in Texas.
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I've never known a man work so hard.
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And I was in fact speaking to his wife last night and they're going to be coming to the
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LA premiere.
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Well, I'm really proud to be associated with you.
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Emmy, Robin, we're going to come back with you in a moment.
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We're going to join some stations.
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Yeah, man, Eric Roberts took two, took two movies in a week that he was almost like he'll
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do anything.
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Yeah.
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We were thrilled to have him when he says yes to everything.
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Almost like he is extremely available to the point where one might say, but you don't need
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to do two movies in that week.
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I was looking, I looked at the cast list and I didn't see any other names that I necessarily
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recognize.
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I don't even recognize Eric Roberts.
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I do.
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Yeah?
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I don't even recognize him.
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He's Julia Roberts' brother, right?
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What?
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Yeah.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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I didn't even know that was real.
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I didn't know she had a brother?
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You don't know who Eric Roberts is?
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I kept thinking of Eric Bana.
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No, it's not Eric Bana.
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I don't know anything.
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Eric Bana might be a git.
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Eric Roberts just does anything.
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Just does anything.
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I think, as I understand, he had a much bigger career in the like eighties and nineties and
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was in a fair amount of movies and then just sort of fell off.
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Sure.
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Isn't it, you'd recognize him if you saw him.
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I'm sure I'd probably, I'd probably see him and do the thing.
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He's Julia Roberts' brother.
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I mean, that still means nothing to me.
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Fine.
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In a lot of ways.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is really excited about this movie because, you know, a lot of people get their
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news from movies.
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I honestly think we might have to turn the show off.
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I know.
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So many people, 20% of the public on average, that's the number that I've seen, maybe 25%
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get their news from news.
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Most people just ignore news.
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They get it from movies.
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And so that's why this is so important as we cover the 25%, but the people that really
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want to know, but we're trying to get to the people that don't know.
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That's why this film Protocol 7 is so important.
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Most people get their news from movies.
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This is Alex in a nutshell.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yup.
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Yup.
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20% or so get their news from news.
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You'd think, well, you know, but that's too easy.
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Most people get it from movies.
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Most people get their news from movies.
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From a dramatized version of things.
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Now I might even be, I might even feel differently if we were like in the forties and there was
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like the updates from the wall before every movie.
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That might, I might even be like, yeah, there's a, there's a point to be made here.
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No.
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Right.
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Refuse.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But it does explain a lot.
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Yeah.
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I mean, Alex thinks movies are news.
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Yeah.
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And it's, it's even more, it's even more obvious because most people like the way that people
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work is generally speaking, people find themselves to be slightly more exceptional than the population
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at large.
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So if somebody says like, oh, most people do a thing in the larger context, it's usually
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in a negative compared to me, like I am capable of more than most people.
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That's the way that, you know, we think, right.
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For Alex though, for him to say most people get their news from movies, he's saying that
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derogatorily and yet at the same time is actually talking about himself.
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Right.
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But he thinks he gets it from documents and all this shit.
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Oh my God.
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Wild.
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What a mess.
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Psychological terror.
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Part of this conversation ends up being about how parents know that they don't need to get
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their children vaccinated.
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Right.
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Right.
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They know.
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They know.
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Parents know.
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They know.
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They know.
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A mother knows.
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Right.
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So Andrew Wakefield tells a story about his wife saving their child in a pool.
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And I don't, it doesn't make the, it doesn't make the point, but Alex seems to think it
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makes the point and also is very confused by the story.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I mean, this is so important, it goes to this, if you've got time for a story, Alex.
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Well, you've got plenty of time.
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Go on.
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Now I'm a storyteller.
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It's old Roger Stone.
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I was on holiday with my family on vacation in Southern Spain in a villa up in the hills
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with my ex-wife and my four children.
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They were very young at the time and we were up in the, one of the bedrooms because my
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second son had a fever and we were up there and my wife was sitting on the bed mopping
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his brow and the rest of us were there.
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And then suddenly she leapt up, she ran across the bedroom.
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She ran down the stairs.
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She ran through the kitchen.
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She ran across the courtyard.
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She ran across the second courtyard into the pool area and just dived full length into
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the pool just before my baby daughter took her last step to be out of her depth and to
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certain death.
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Where did that come from?
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Yep.
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How did she know?
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I didn't know.
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She just knew something inside her, something visceral, not something.
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Well tell the full story of the baby daughter.
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Oh absolutely fine.
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Saved her.
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But with sense.
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Well explain the story.
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I'm missing it.
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She's there.
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The baby daughter had gone.
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She'd gone out.
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We hadn't noticed it.
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She'd gone to the pool.
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She was going down the steps to certain death.
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Oh wow.
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Your wife literally picked it up and ran.
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My wife knew.
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She just knew.
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She had that sixth sense.
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Quite incredible.
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And the reason.
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She ran down and saved her.
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Yeah.
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These two were once one.
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Yeah.
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They were connected and they will never be apart.
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They were once one body.
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It was absolutely fascinating.
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Sorry I missed the first part.
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That's amazing.
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So she literally psychically picks up.
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My daughter's about to drown.
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Absolutely.
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None of us, none of the rest of us in the room had any clue.
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And she knew.
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It was the most vivid sort of insight into psychic power.
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You saw her like just rise up and run directly to where it was.
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No explanation.
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It wasn't that she was, you know, about to jump off a cliff.
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It wasn't that she was out on the highway.
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It was the pool.
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Oh, she was about to drown.
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Go back slowly.
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Describe it.
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You're sitting here.
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I'm sorry.
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What?
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Start this from the top.
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Are we doing this again?
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I guess so.
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See Alex is a little slow on the pickup, but he kind of gets what he's saying.
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So now I think there's two really important things about this that are fucked up.
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One is that there are probably examples of times when his wife has gotten worried about
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one of the children and then nothing was happening.
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You would expect.
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And then you just kind of forget about that because it's not as dramatic or as interesting
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of a story.
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It's not a story at all.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And then the second thing is that by presenting this as a like she had a psychic power to
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know when her child was in danger so she could snap into action.
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What you're doing is taking anybody who's had something tragic happened to their child
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and making it their fault for not stopping it.
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You have, you had the psychic power or whatever to it.
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You just ignored it or you weren't there enough.
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You're not connected enough to your child.
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It's fucked up.
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This is a mentality that is, it takes something that's romantic and kind of nice about the
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idea of a connection between parent and child and it turns it into like this horrible grotesque
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thing.
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Yeah.
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And it absolves you from having to think for even one second how it is that you have to
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go downstairs, across the kitchen, across a courtyard, and then across another courtyard
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to get to a pool.
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And you at no point in time saw your child along any of those lengths of time.
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Why do you have that much space?
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Why do you need that much space?
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What are we doing here?
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What are we doing here?
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You don't have to think about that.
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What you have to think about is how great your wife is.
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She's got psychic powers.
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Everybody is psychic.
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Everybody's psychic.
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That's fucking great.
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Wow.
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So the other voice you hear is Emmy Robin and she's an actor who's in the movie.
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That makes sense.
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And also a doula.
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She's also a doula.
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Wow.
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And I don't know.
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I feel...
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I think every doula is also an actor.
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I'm just going to throw that out there.
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I don't know.
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I do think that her contributions are a little bit strange.
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That's the magic to know we are eternal beings.
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That is the proof right there.
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That is so powerful.
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I can tell you, Alex, the women that I work with, when they have a natural physiological
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unmedicated, untouched home birth, their connection with their baby is out of this
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world.
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And I'm a testament to that.
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My first daughter was an emergency C-section and my second daughter was an all-natural
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home birth.
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And I love them both, but my connection to the home birth, I didn't mess with God's design
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at all.
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Oh, man.
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Wow.
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I would hate to be that first child.
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I'm going to get out of here, Ma.
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I got to go.
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I have suddenly realized something very important about our relationship is that you hate me
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for some reason.
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Right.
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When you have the tone of, I love them both.
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I love them both, but one sucks and the other one's great.
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I don't feel that connected to one of them because I have them in a hospital.
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Oh my God.
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Whoa.
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That's the sound of one of them is no longer doing whatever I tell them to do anymore.
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I don't know.
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I don't know how old they are.
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I think this is all just projection.
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Man.
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That is wild.
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That really struck me as- That fucks me up.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Don't do that.
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No.
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To your kids.
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No.
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Especially not in public.
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On the radio.
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Tell it to them maybe if you hate them, but don't do it on the radio.
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That's rude.
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So Alex has had some real dark times where people have been telling him he sucks and
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he's dumb and he lies a lot and he's wrong about stuff.
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And seeing that happen to Andrew Wakefield and then him be vindicated-
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Oh my God.
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But he wasn't vindicated.
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Well, sure.
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But still.
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It gave Alex hope.
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Okay.
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I don't want to write myself in the story because it's not about me, but I've-
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Oh, it's not?
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You've gone through quite the giant persecution, thousands of articles, sometimes a month,
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every TV show.
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Same thing happened to me.
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Didn't do anything they said I did, but the courts are on there.
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But the funny thing is with you, I saw it, it gave me faith when I was being persecuted
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five, six years ago and still am how it turned.
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And so what was done to you is being done to Trump, it's been done to me.
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You were kind of the test pilot for this modern CIA MI6 attack.
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Yeah.
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It happened to General Michael Flynn.
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It happened to... and it's relentless and it doesn't matter.
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You know what?
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Because this isn't about me.
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It's not about me.
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So you can say anything you like.
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I don't care.
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People will continue to say what they like, you suck.
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All I want to do is be responsible for the vast swath of death and destruction left in
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my Wakefield.
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Come on.
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Let's go.
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I mean, I do think that there's something shocking about believing that he's been vindicated,
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but oh well.
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By what?
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Whom?
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When?
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I mean, he's just saying that now that we're still... because we're still talking and you
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didn't quit, I guess you've been vindicated.
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But at no point in time is he saying like, your stuff has been proven correct.
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Right.
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You've stayed around.
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Anti-vax stuff has become much more popular than it was and therefore you are vindicated.
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Therefore you're vindicated.
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The whole world is based on like fucking YouTube comments and the ratio of people liking Bill
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Gates and Joe Rogan posts and stuff like that.
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So of course Andrew Wakefield's been vindicated.
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There are more people who are like, this stupid shit that he said is right.
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That is a really good point.
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Yeah.
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So vindication, baby.
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Anyway.
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All right.
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They're dumb.
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And I do think it's worth pointing out that like, they are not just anti-vax.
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They are essentially anti-medicine.
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Yeah.
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We've gone that far now.
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Yes.
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We're in Christian scientist territory of like, doctors are not allowed near you.
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There is a lot of that, whether it's like fully endorsed or just danced around, there
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is a like, all our medicine is fucked.
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God has a plan.
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God has a design.
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Wow.
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It's like, Alex, you just had dental surgery recently, like come, come the fuck off it.
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Oh my God.
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What are you, what are you playing with here?
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This is ridiculous, but that's where they are.
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And that seems to be a direction that is, is creeping closer.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, I've thought about this for a while for, for obvious reasons.
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You know, that, that kind of like do as I say, not as I do think that happens so often
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with religious leaders where it's like, oh, you can't trust the hospital, but then they'll
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go get dental surgery if they need it, that kind of thing.
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You know, that, that feeling of being a follower who does what they're like, you, you're just
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not listening right.
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Don't worry about it until you need it, you know, like that's, isn't that the real message?
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If you need it, go see a doctor, but if you don't need it, tell other people not to go
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see doctors.
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They're evil.
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But if you need it, I mean, obviously go see a doctor.
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This is entertainment.
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Yeah.
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What are you crazy?
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Go see a doctor.
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Right.
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What are you, nuts?
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So I don't really care to listen to too much more of, um, these two promote their movie
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quite frankly, because they suck and, uh, I hate them.
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So we jumped to someone else who sucks, and I hate, and that's Nick Fuentes.
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Jesus Christ, man, there is a, that's unrelenting.
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Yeah.
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So this is one of the reasons why I was very okay with you being like, I'm sick, I don't
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want to come in.
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I'm like, you can't handle this today.
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You can't handle Andrew Wakefield and Nick Fuentes coming in, uh, while you're dry heaving.
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Yeah.
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You've already, I've already got stomach acid flying everywhere, you don't need it in your
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house.
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Right, right.
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So, uh, Alex is very, very impressed by Nick.
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Very impressed.
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Really?
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But let's not.
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Why?
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Let's not get into that Third Reich stuff.
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Okay.
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Come on.
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Elon Musk, a true maverick by any yardstick, he can say, oh, he didn't really do those
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giant rockets at half the cost of NASA.
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He didn't really, yeah, he did all that.
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And now he's brought free speech back to a great extent to X compared to other platforms.
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He said, Hey, I'm putting Nick J. Fuentes back on that's exploded on the top trends
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last four days.
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Uh, I did a spaces with him that reached millions and millions of people a few days ago.
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And so here we are, but I was impressed and I'll be completely honest about this.
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I was very impressed and it was my daughter's seventh birthday, so I could only do an hour.
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I had to leave.
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People thought, Oh, you're mad at Nick.
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You left in an hour.
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No, I can only do an hour.
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Very great points.
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Nick made excellent points, uh, that Nick Sordor made that Mario Nafal made that the
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guests made.
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I kind of want to repeat that and just cover a bunch of other big issues here instead of
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debating the Third Reich and things like that.
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And I'm happy to go there.
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There's been no pre interview here.
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There's been no I said, You got any questions or things you want to cover, you know, send
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them to me.
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But so so that's where we are.
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But the Nick Fuentes I liked and I'm not putting Nick down was the guy I knew five years ago
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that exploded from nowhere.
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It was America first and things I agree with and just really doing great talk shows as
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a very young man, knowing you mature, get even better and better.
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And then when the interview happened, I said, cover whatever you want to go.
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Don't worry.
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That wasn't Nick.
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It was other folks with him.
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Oh, he wants to come in and apologize for what he said.
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I said, well, I don't even want that.
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I just want to cover all the other issues we can spend some of the time on the stuff
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he wants to cover.
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But I have some questions.
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None of that happened.
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It was mainly press on the nerve of who's the most hardcore, who's the most real, who's
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the most, you know, wild.
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And we can do that today.
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But I really don't do it.
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I want to talk about transhumanism, globalism, the open borders, the depopulation, the future
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of the world, censorship.
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What Alex is essentially saying here is that he wants to make common cause with a Nazi
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by pretending that he's not a Nazi.
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And when Alex sounds like the Nick Fuentes that I like was, you know, these same guy,
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but it's like when there was plausible deniability.
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Exactly.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Before he did his Hitler tour, the Nick Fuentes that I like is still the same person in as
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much as he is very competent.
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Sure.
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Speaks incredibly well.
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He has thought out positions.
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He sounds way smarter than Alex.
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He's polished in a, like a, he's able to be media ready.
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And back then you could pretend that he didn't have the beliefs that he espouses pretty regularly.
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And I think Alex is just like, you've been exposed to our audience as someone who is
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a fucking bigot and we can't, like, I don't want that and to like you, like those two
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things are going to be difficult for my brand.
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So I liked it before.
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Can you be, but like that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Talk about the third Reich stuff.
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Give me an F classic.
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Come on buddy.
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Give me, give me some of that good stuff.
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Act like a dick, but don't be like, ah, and let's kill all the, you know, it's not hard.
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I think Alex gets a lot of his wish until towards the end of the interview and then
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things fall apart a little bit, but he gets most of what he wants because Nick is pretty
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on message.
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He is, um, I mean, I don't, I don't know if it's what Alex would want because if you look
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at the two of them, you have somebody who's very able to articulate a point and somebody
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who's Alex.
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Yeah.
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Um, and I think Nick looks very good compared to Alex in his, in terms of his communication
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skills.
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Sure.
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Um, and so maybe that's not what Alex wants, but he certainly doesn't get like into how
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I think all Jewish people should be barred from having elected positions.
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That's usually smart.
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Yeah.
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At least not for a while.
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Yeah.
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So if things stay in kind of a, a territory that's workable, um, and, and Nick has a theory
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about social media that I actually think I have the exact opposite theory.
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Okay.
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Like you said, we diverged at some point along the way, but I think you and I have always
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agreed that you cannot have a right wing.
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You cannot have a pro freedom, pro human, pro American movement if we don't have access
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to the platforms.
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And I think something that people don't realize is how tenuous that is.
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This is, there was a very short window of time at the beginning of the last decade.
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I would say roughly between 2013 to 2016 when social media really became activated.
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This I would say is a specific singularity in the history of technological development
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when people had all gotten smartphones and social media.
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It's the hottest medium that has ever existed in the history of mankind for the first time.
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Unlike even before when people had internet and computers for the first time, roughly
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in that period, in the middle of the last decade, everybody was connected to everybody
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else on social media at all times via their smartphone.
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And I think that that created a very specific political outcome, which was the Trump revolution.
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It is no surprise that when, for the first time in history, the consciousness was elevated
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to such a high degree by social media and smartphones, it produced a wild, populous
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nationalist revolution.
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So I do think that the outcome that he's describing I agree with.
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Like social media allowed a lot of this bullshit to happen.
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But I don't think it's evolving consciousness.
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I think that it's a medium that is rife with fraud and very easy to pass off bullshit on.
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And so it eroded people's ability to interact with information.
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Okay.
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So what you're saying, your theory might be that social media as a destructive and awful
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force created or led to us electing a destructive and awful force.
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At least facilitated it in a fashion.
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Right, right, right.
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So instead of that being sort of like an evolved consciousness, it might be a devolved consciousness.
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Yeah, but to his point that probably couldn't have gotten Trump without it, I think he's
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probably right.
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I agree.
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To the point of you can't have a full, robust, extreme right wing without social media.
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I don't know if that's true, but it certainly helps.
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Because there is a tradition of message boards and newsletters and stuff like that.
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The right wing was able to spread and grow without social media before.
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And I think that there's an ability to do it again.
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It's just stymied considerably and then the profit, the ability to profit off it is limited.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I think there's something to be said about an awareness somewhere that they are a disease.
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You know, like whenever we don't have social media to allow them to connect, those cells
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can just be there and they're not hurting nobody.
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But whenever the cells are all connected and we get all this big movement from all across
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the world, that's no good, that's no good for nobody.
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Well, see, they think it's that, but it's the reverse.
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Yeah, see, that's the thing.
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Right.
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That's where we get into trouble.
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So, Alex, on our last episode, it was the big one.
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Yeah.
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The big one.
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Everything's going down.
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It's happening.
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Totally.
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We can mitigate it, maybe.
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Yep.
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Things have calmed down a little bit.
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Sure.
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He's not in that bad of a mood.
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But false flags are still coming.
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Okay.
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They are still coming.
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So not kill everybody, false flags.
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It's not the big one.
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Eh, who knows?
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It's a pretty big one.
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It's a little bit less extreme today.
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You might have had a bad meeting on our last episode.
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But yeah, Nick's kind of on the same page that false flags are coming.
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Okay.
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The establishment knows they're losing on every front.
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And my concern is, my next question to you is, what do you think the deep state is going
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to do with 180 days to the election to try to demonize their opposition?
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We've seen the pre-programming that white supremacists are going to blow everything
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up and kill everybody with no evidence of it.
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I see false flags.
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I'm really concerned about what this desperate deep state is going to do as the whole world
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wakes up to them.
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What do you think?
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I think you're absolutely right.
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I think that's the oldest playbook.
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That's the one that they always go to.
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It's the exact same thing that they did in 2018 with the Christchurch shooting or any
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number of the other mass shootings or terrorist incidents.
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Every escalation and censorship in the past six or seven years was always precipitated
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or preceded by some sort of mass shooting, some sort of violent extremist episode, which
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if you really look back and interrogate the actual timeline of events with any of those,
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whether it was El Paso or Christchurch or any of them, there was always things suspicious.
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Like there was never a federal agent very far behind, never a confidential informant
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very far behind.
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And a lot of them, it was the closest circle, like the five people that knew the shooter.
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One of them was a confidential informant.
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So I think you're absolutely right.
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They just like we understand the stakes, which is that with Twitter, with Rumble, with big
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tech now, once again, back at our fingertips, we really actually have a fighting chance
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at political reform in the form of Trump.
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We really stand a chance at defeating the legal political persecution of Trump and him
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being an avatar and a representative of all of us.
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And so I think, as you say, they recognize the stakes just as much as we do.
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And I think there will be some sort of extremely unpredictable black swan type event.
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I thought we already had that with the bridge.
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That was what Alex was saying was a black swan thing.
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It wasn't Ebola supposed to have spread from Denver.
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Anyway, if you can predict a black swan event, you have denied the existence of the black
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swan event.
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Well, no, no, no, no, some Alex has dreams.
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Nevermind.
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I take my criticism back.
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So yeah, I guess the argument here is that Christchurch, that massacre and El Paso and
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all of these racially and every time my friends murder a bunch of people, right.
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That was something that was done by the globalists in order to kick me off Twitter because I'm
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too good on Twitter and I will get Trump elected.
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Yeah.
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That's kind of the vibe, but I think there's a little bit of a calm down.
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I mean, a megalomaniac is usually bad when they're just at a fucking toll booth.
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Whenever they're Nick Fuentes, real bad, not good.
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He's able to say this in a way that doesn't immediately appear to translate to that.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know, like when I say that he's a pretty good communicator, it's because that bullshit
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doesn't pop out like on its face.
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A lot of the way that Alex, when he says stuff, it's like most people get their news from
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movies.
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Alex says shit like that.
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Whereas Nick dresses things up pretty.
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Nick did not explicitly say they false flagged Christchurch because I'm the next Hitler.
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He didn't explicitly say that they were trying to keep me from becoming the fourth Reich.
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But yeah, it's about that.
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So Alex tries to get into a weave into a little bit of conversation about the the Gaza protests.
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Great.
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This is a good thing for these two to talk about.
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It jumps off topic pretty quickly.
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Elon Musk.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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I'm not supporting Israel's carpet bombing.
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Also don't support Biden giving money to Hamas and then the left funding that you can see
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they're trying to create this, this, this, this, this, this clash of civilizations that
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we're now witnessing.
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And I want to derail that.
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And Trump's imperfect, but way better than Biden, obviously, and get him into office.
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So pulling back from this, you know, we can say, is Elon Musk for real?
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Or is he an opportunist?
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I kind of think he's for real overall, he's got a bunch of kids, you know, it's not perfect.
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But he sees also that the wind's blowing in our direction.
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So it's not that he's even opportunist.
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He's already on our side.
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But now he thinks the time is ripe to take these people on.
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There's double the engagement on X, formerly Twitter, it's winning.
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The people are awakening.
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I mean, we're really at that magic moment right now.
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That's what people got to be so concerned about what the deep state is going to do next.
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That's why we're trying to get everybody as focused as possible on that.
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Absolutely.
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And it is, I think, an interesting question whether Elon Musk is an opportunist or if
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he's some kind of ideologue.
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Ultimately, though, that we have the free speech platform, at least in the short term
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is really the only thing that matters.
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See, now, this is exactly the right point for someone like Nick.
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He is like, you know what, hey, Elon Musk could be good, could be bad.
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I don't give a fuck.
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I have got Twitter access now.
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And that's all that matters to me.
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This is the only thing that matters, dum dum.
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Yeah.
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Stop it with a could be there's an interesting way, maybe it's an academic conversation to
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have about whether Elon believes any of this shit.
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And that you hear from Alex sometimes.
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That kind of, you know, maybe he's for real, maybe he's not.
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Even hear a little bit of that in that clip, but it's always so surface level.
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Now listen to this next clip, because this is where Nick goes.
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He discusses a possibility for how Elon Musk could be a crass opportunist.
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What?
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How could you imagine such an awful thing?
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And there is so much more thought put into this than like the way Alex presents any of
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this stuff.
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I thought it was very interesting, the role that Twitter or X played in the recent Argentine
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election.
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As you know, Javier Malay was recently elected just last fall in Argentina.
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And it was before Javier Malay was elected that Argentina was going to accede to the
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BRICS alliance, the Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa alliance, along with five
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or six other states.
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I think Egypt, the Emirates, Iran were a few of them.
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And Javier Malay getting into office with the conspicuous intervention of X is what
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allowed Javier Malay to cancel that accession of Argentina to BRICS.
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And recently, Elon Musk met with Javier Malay at one of these think tank summits.
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And the connection would be in lithium.
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Argentina has the largest unexploited lithium reserves in the world.
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It sits in the middle of the lithium triangle with Bolivia and Chile, although Argentina
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has the most by far, and they're not exploited at all.
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Now that Javier Malay is in charge, he's a neoliberal free market guy.
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And I think a lot of people agree with that.
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I mean, I'm a free market guy also, I believe in capitalism.
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But Javier Malay is now realigning Argentina away from China, away from Russia, away from
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Brazil, back towards the United States.
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And just as Argentina goes with the United States, so goes their lithium reserves.
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Of course, what is lithium used in?
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It's one of the most critical resources in the world, batteries, lithium ion batteries
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that will be vital for the energy transition, the global green energy transition away from
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combustion-based car engines to lithium ion electric car battery-based systems.
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And so Elon Musk, well, he's in the business of batteries.
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He's in the business of electric lithium ion battery cars.
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Now that Javier Malay is giving the United States the exclusive access to the lithium,
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and if you look at some of the particular companies, you might wonder, did X play a
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role in Javier Malay's election last fall?
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And then wouldn't that suggest that there might be some sort of opportunistic angle
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for Elon purchasing X?
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I think there's a lot of credibility to that idea.
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With that being said, however, you and I coming back onto the platform and using that to get
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Donald Trump elected, using that to raise awareness about the things that are going
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on in the world, as you said earlier, about globalism, about medical tyranny, about transhumanism.
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I think it's a net positive regardless.
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I think it can't be said enough, it really truly can't be overstated what that does for
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the right wing.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, like, look, leaving aside whatever you want to believe about the conspiracy that
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Nick is suggesting, there's a lot of credibility.
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The argument is that Elon Musk used Twitter and weaponized or allowed Twitter to be used
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in order to get Javier Malay elected because that would give him access to the lithium
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that he needs for the batteries that run his automated cars and what have you.
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So that's election meddling, right?
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Yep, yep.
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In some sense.
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That is pretty fucked up, but it's fine for Nick because he's also allowing Nick and Alex
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to interfere in an election using Twitter in the United States, and that's much more
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important to the right wing.
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It's so much more important to the right wing that Nick and Alex be on Twitter that who
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cares if there's a foreign government that are being-
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Alex, let me explain this to you.
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Let me try and explain this to you, okay?
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Short-term goals?
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Fuck them.
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Shove them up your ass.
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Short-term goals?
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The only thing we ever need to think about.
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They're the best.
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I honestly think a fair amount of this can be just kind of understood as someone who's
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like really addicted to posting, and it's very weird.
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You can't know anything about history and not be like, you realize this is a bad idea
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to give one man this much power.
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How many times are we going to do this?
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How many times are we going to do this, guys?
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It is.
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You two should be saying, we shouldn't give this.
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Nick, no one man should have all that fucking power.
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Right, and it's kind of, I don't know, a little bit of a indication that principles don't
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exist when you have two minutes of laying out something that is really pretty messed
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up.
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Yep.
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Inexcusable.
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If Elon Musk didn't let these people back on Twitter, they'd be attacking him over this.
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Oh, it'd be awful.
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Right.
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It's the worst thing you can do.
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This is what globalists do.
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Exactly.
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This is the kind of thing.
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And because they're allowed on Twitter, it's a net positive.
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That makes up enough ground that it doesn't matter if Elon Musk is using his own company
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to get foreign governments elected in order for his profit margin and access to lithium.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, no, no, no.
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Right, right.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's good stuff.
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Mm-hmm.
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Everything is excusable.
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If you're a Nazi.
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I mean, honestly, there is that.
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What is he going to do that Nick Fuentes is like, eh, I want to do worse?
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Like, come on.
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Yeah, it's tough.
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Yeah.
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So Nick, as we know, we've heard this in past times that we've talked about their interactions.
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Sure.
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Nick will constantly say things like, Alex is run by the Jews.
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Sure.
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You know, whenever he tried to backpedal a bit from the Ye interview, Nick said that
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Alex got a call from his controllers.
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Totally.
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You know, there's all that stuff.
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Yeah.
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And so Alex is a little bit like, come on, man.
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Just don't do that.
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Yeah.
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Don't make me feel bad.
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Yeah.
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So he scolds Nick a little bit.
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Oh my God.
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About saying that he's not anti-Israel enough.
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Oh my God.
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I'm glad you bring up the anti-Semitism, Bill, because we didn't talk much other than a few
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text messages about you coming on about what the topics would be.
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And that's something front and center for me.
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And I saw you a week ago, you know, a clip was sent to me and I'm not mad about it.
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You know, I've made comments about you, most of them, you know, tongue in cheek, blip it
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comments or whatever.
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And you were like, yeah, we've seen the new Gregory's report, Zionist death grip on America.
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Let's put it on screen.
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And I'm not trying to get a fight going here for the last three quarters of the show.
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I'm just getting this out.
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Okay.
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And I'm like, yeah, well, I think Jones is doing this because there's pressure on him
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to do it.
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No, I hired Gregory's five years ago.
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I respect Gregory's.
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He does whatever he wants, but I've made two films on the USS Liberty and bombs and the
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Israelis and 9-11 that I produced and made.
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And I'm not trying to like this old man's name because I was on air, unlike most people,
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I was on air when I was 20 like you.
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So I look at you and go, God, I respect somebody when they're 20 on air and now you're 25,
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26.
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I don't look like, oh, hey, sonny boy, get off my block.
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I'm the old man around here.
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I'm 50 years old.
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The point is, when you were literally in diapers, I was exposing the USS Liberty all this.
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And I get it.
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I don't talk about it constantly because to me it's old news.
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But I know Israel does evil stuff.
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I know Israel has nuclear weapons.
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I know Israel's been involved in a bunch of stuff.
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I understand all that.
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So it's not about scoring points here.
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It's that I believe that if I just cover topics and issues, I can get everybody to go for
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them.
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But if we make it about a certain group or another group, then we lose people.
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I just believe that if I build it, they will come.
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Big tent, baby.
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So yeah, there's something really magical about the vibe of, listen, I'm not trying
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to be like, I'm the old timer here, listen up, son.
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I'm not trying to do that.
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But also, I was doing this when you were in short pants.
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Yeah.
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It's talking out of both sides of the mouth a little bit here.
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I think that's just that thing where it's like, you gotta just give up and do what the
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young people say.
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If you're thinking of your Alex, or let's take it back.
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Let's be like Elizabeth Cady Stanton.
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You're crushing it.
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You're fighting.
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You're doing the whole thing.
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And then 30 years later, somebody's like, why didn't you allow black people involved?
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And you're like, ah, because you're too woke.
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And it's like, no, you should have just been like, yeah, we fucked up.
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I fucked up.
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Let's move.
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Let's go.
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Let's go, man.
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Well.
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Terrible.
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The analogy with Nick and Alex falls apart a little bit.
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There is a little bit there.
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I'm just saying it's tough to be a trailblazer and then find out that you didn't go fucking
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anywhere.
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You know, like you fought your ass off to go nowhere.
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And then when the next generation calls you out on that, you went nowhere and all of the
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things you thought were accomplishments were actually nothing.
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Then you feel like shit.
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And then you go to that kid and you're like, see, my accomplishes might be nothing, but
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you're nothing now.
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So fuck you.
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And it's just kind of that cycle over and over and over again.
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Well, in that case, we should kind of hope for the side that does nothing to succeed.
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Oh.
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Because at least nothing is better than awful.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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We'll see.
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Climate change is getting worse.
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So Nick talks about the protests that are going on on college campuses.
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Yes.
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And he has a take on it.
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That is interesting.
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But I also think that this is a really, probably a fairly good encapsulation of why, like,
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even if somebody is on the same side as you in theory, nominally or aesthetically or whatever,
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that does not mean necessarily that you should side with them or take their position as meaningful.
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Right.
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With what's going on, this conflagration over there in Gaza, we are we are at a very high
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risk of being drawn into hostilities with Iran directly, as evidenced by the recent
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tit for tat strikes.
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At the same time, there is a mass mobilization on campuses to to attempt to retard this.
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And as you say, the people that are deploying to the campuses, these people don't love America.
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They're leftists.
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A lot of them are going on the campuses really for the wrong reasons.
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I mean, they're with the campus or rather they're with Palestine, not because they're
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sympathetic even for the humanitarian cause.
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A lot of them are just radical liberationists.
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And so we're not ideologically aligned at all.
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And yet deploying all those people to the campuses may retard America's support for
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a war with Iran.
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So there's these two things going on war with Iran, mass mobilization on the campuses.
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The mass mobilization on the campuses, if it gets out of control, as we talked about
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in a previous segment, could create a false flag scenario that could bring down Trump
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and indict patriots and undo the free speech beachhead.
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At the same time, the campus protests are the only thing slowing down America's support
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or its reluctant drawing into a war with Iran.
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So we're in this impossible situation where you shut down the protests.
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Maybe you get a war with Iran.
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You prevent a war with Iran by going to the protesters and capitulating.
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But then you get this flashpoint for an all out war in America.
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And so there's this very, very slim, narrow opportunity where we have to thread the needle,
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where on the one hand, we can't let the protests turn into BLM.
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We can't have them mobilizing in the event that Trump wins for some kind of revolution.
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We saw a little bit of that in 2016 with Antifa.
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At the same time, we also can't be drawn into a war with Iran.
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So this is why it's very important for patriots and for America first types to be aware of
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all the facts.
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I feel like it's sort of the same energy of Star Wars.
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I know you and I are both fond of Revenge of the Sith, where they're kind of playing
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I got my news from that movie where they achieve their ultimate goal.
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And I see, for example, they're they're characterizing all these protesters as pro Hamas, pro terrorists.
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The cops are going in and cleaning them up.
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And I see a lot of right wing people cheering that on and celebrating it.
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And I understand why the protesters are not friendly to us.
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They're hard, as I said, they're hardcore leftist communists.
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They're tearing down the American flag.
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At the same time, look at the cost of bringing down the protests.
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It's an attack on the First Amendment with the anti-Semitism Awareness Act.
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It's potentially clearing the protests so that there will be no opposition to America's
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support for Israel if they try to provoke a war with Iran.
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Well, exactly.
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And then it sets the pressure for everybody to lose their free speech.
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So you make some points.
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Oh, my God.
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What what where's your head?
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I do think he's he's got that media smart reality, stupid power that is so, so fucking
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powerful, like being able to say absolutely ridiculous, stupid shit like that.
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But in a way that to Alex sounds like the smartest man on earth.
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Well, and there's some points that are, you know, almost impossible to disagree with.
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Like we can't crush the protests because the effects that it would have on free speech.
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We can't be on the side of that.
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Yeah, they'll be fine.
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That's the appearance of a principled stance, though, that even people on the left would,
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you know, sure, but they're fine with that.
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They're totally cool.
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Well, not really.
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But what Nick is espousing is essentially we have to crush them a little bit softer.
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We have to crush them a little bit more softly or subvert or something, because if we use
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some sort of giant power to to crush it, yeah, we're going to end up in a war with Iran and
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the First Amendment is destroyed.
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Oh, no.
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Right.
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But if we just leave it alone and let the protests happen, then there'll be a false
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flag scenario.
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Sure.
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That could grow out of it.
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Right.
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Or it'll be an organic movement that ends up threatening and let it become BLM.
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Rise of Trump.
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Right.
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That would be a disaster for two or three years, Max.
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Right.
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It's very obvious that there there is like the appearance of agreement or support in
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as much as he doesn't want people to crush the protest.
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Right.
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But that is an illusion of his ultimate hostility and complete opposition.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's it's again, it's optics.
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We.
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Yeah.
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Of course, if there wasn't cameras around, I'd be like, beat the shit out of those leftist
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losers.
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We we love violence.
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But if there are cameras around, somebody like us who loves violence might cause a false
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flag out of the violence that we would do if there weren't any cameras around.
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But since we know there are cameras around, we wouldn't do any of that violence.
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I'm looking at you, you and you, the three of you.
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Don't do that violence, specifically the three of you.
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Yeah.
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Jesus.
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And it's it's it's interesting.
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It is.
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It's interesting the way that he can articulate these things.
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Yeah.
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That makes you think, oh, this is not this is like a rational human being instead of
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a psychopathic monster.
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Uh huh.
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Yeah.
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But I think it's an indication of like, he thinks a little bit more than Alex.
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Sure.
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Maybe.
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I think most psychopathic monsters do.
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Or just there's the awareness of he's coming on Alex's platform and there's a different
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audience that he might be able to appeal to.
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And so he's speaking differently and a little bit more professionally than than you would
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when you're just at your own desk.
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Yeah.
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Doing your show.
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Yep.
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So Alex is concerned about A.I.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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But I think he's concerned about the wrong thing.
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Oh.
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They actually had to go back and revise chat GPT and make it weaker because it was too
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powerful.
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And now it's just the public product.
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That's just what we know about.
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We don't even know how sophisticated.
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Let me back you up.
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I know some of the top computer people I'm sure you do, too.
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They tell me what we're seeing is 10 years old.
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They're holding it back.
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It would take everything over right now.
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I mean, I already listened six months ago.
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The A.I. hacked my phone number.
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Hold me on Tucker Carlson's number and then mimic Tucker Carlson's voice to me.
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But I could tell what it was saying wasn't Tucker.
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So I said, this is A.I. and hung up.
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Then it was confirmed it was A.I.
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I mean, that's old technology.
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Absolutely.
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And well, that's the problem is we don't even I mean, people like yourself are aware, but
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the masses are not fully aware of the threat that's posed by this stuff.
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See, that's where things get embarrassing for Nick to be like, absolutely is ridiculous.
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One prank called Alex and played cut up clips of Tucker Carlson saying he wanted to fuck
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him.
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I think I think generally that the word absolutely is should be retired from this show because
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it's almost always used immediately to agree with something.
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Absolutely not true.
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Well, it's a need.
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It's like it's like a it's a placeholder.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Sure.
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It's an affirmative.
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Why not?
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Yeah.
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I see no reason why I can't agree with you right now.
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Alex's phone.
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Sure.
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Hack Tucker's phone.
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Yeah.
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Made a prank call between them.
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This is A.I.
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So sophisticated.
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Hung up.
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And so Alex wants no A.I.
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None.
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All right.
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I'm listening.
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And then Nick makes a joke that was probably meant to be a little bit racist.
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And Alex picks up on that subtext.
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Great.
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And then just kind of gets flustered.
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Good stuff.
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I agree.
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Arms control in terms of artificial intelligence and robotics is really one of the understated
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issues of our time.
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And it's simple when you go to Chick-fil-A and a robot delivers your food at your table
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or a robot.
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You say, no, I don't want a robot.
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It's not that you're against technology.
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It's that it's it's the technology is being bent towards attacking us.
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I don't know.
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I may push back.
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I mean, when you go to the drive through and you get an A.I., I prefer that over what you
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usually get.
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You go to Wendy's drive through and they're like, what you want?
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What you want?
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You know, I prefer the artificial intelligence.
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No, but I get it's better in ways.
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But it's the it's like you put a worm on a hook.
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The worm is the egg.
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It's a done better.
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But it's connected to something evil.
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I'm not saying the eye isn't better up front.
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I'm saying it gives them total control.
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So I'd rather somebody say, you know, three times I want a cheeseburger, you know, chicken
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sandwich.
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I told you a cheeseburger three times.
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Send it back to give you a salad.
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I understand that's a human problem.
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But I'm just teasing you a little bit.
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I know you're teasing me, man, but it's like I see while you're all worried about religious
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groups and racial groups.
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And I am, too.
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Well, yeah, like I'm worried about the technocracy, right?
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Like I'm worried about that.
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That's what I'm really concerned about.
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I think you're right to be concerned about that.
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It's certainly one of the big issues of the time, A.I., robotics.
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It's the end of humanity.
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I totally agree with you.
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Well, maybe I can't help myself that I project humanity on every group.
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And I think they're going to join me.
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Maybe I'm wrong.
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OK.
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You brought up a great point.
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Yeah, whatever.
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What the fuck?
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What is happening?
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So, Alex, whether or not I do think that Nick's joke was meant to be racist, that's why he's
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doing a voice.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And Alex picked up on that.
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Yeah.
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And that made Alex be like, I'm going to take this seriously.
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And Nick's like, I'm fucking with you.
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I'm just being a dick.
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That was a fun racist joke.
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If we were at a bar, you would have laughed.
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We would have moved on.
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Right.
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Right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And Alex picks up on this and he's like, I care about the issues, not various groups.
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Because he's responding to the joke that he knows that Nick made.
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Yep.
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I prefer AI to black people is essentially what AI or what Nick said.
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And he's like, now, we don't say that here on the again, optics.
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People are watching us now.
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And Alex, even like the point where he says, maybe I'm wrong to project goodness on other
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groups.
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I want to.
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Oh, my God.
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I want to be more racist than anything that Nick is saying.
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I don't even know how to like, like that is the most white man's burden as like, listen,
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we all know white people are great.
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Maybe part of the thing that is our failing is believing others are great.
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That is essentially what Alex just said.
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Yep.
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That's fucked up.
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Yep.
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So the million dollar question.
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What's your biggest flaw?
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Too few flaws.
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That's my biggest flaw.
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I don't have any.
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It makes people uncomfortable around me because I have this zero flaws.
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It's an issue.
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I like, I like that Alex is also doing this thing where he's like, you think about groups
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too much.
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Maybe, maybe it's my fault that I think so highly of other groups.
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These people are fucking insane.
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They have no idea, right?
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They just talk and they, and it's all like fine.
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And they go about their days and then they go eat and then they go home.
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Not at any point recognizing like everything I believe on the day to day basis might as
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well be pink elephants.
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But at least from Nick's perspective, he knows he's fucking with Alex.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Like when he makes that joke, he's like, I'm just messing around with you.
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There's a ton of other instances where he's like, I'm hiding what I'm actually meaning
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and talking about because obviously we're on your fucking show.
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This is, this is, you don't want me to come through with what I actually believe.
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You don't want me to speak freely.
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That would make you look bad and me look bad.
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Your audience isn't ready for that.
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It is a sin.
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It is a sign of how gun shy Alex is that even like a little joke like that sets him off
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so bad.
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Well, there's a, there's a rippling undercurrent of this that you can hear in Alex's like I
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was doing this when you were in diapers, you know, like there is that like you don't respect
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what I do because your bigotry is a umbrella over all of my ideas.
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You can have complete agreement and agree with all of the things I believe about vaccines,
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digital currencies, uh, COVID, all of it, you know, everything.
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And you have your umbrella on top and I can't do anything about that except tell you fuck
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that umbrella.
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Yeah.
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And it doesn't work.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Can't you just be all the things that I like without being any of the things that I don't
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like and only be those for me.
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But also those things I don't actually really not like them that much because I know well
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enough to know that optically this is really bad.
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What a toxic relationship the two of them have just like in a pure, like in a metaphorical
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sense of Alex looking at the younger version of himself.
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And the fact that since the day one of him knowing Nick, he's known that Nick and his
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followers are actually straight up Nazis.
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He knows this.
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Millie Weaver told him that and he doesn't care.
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He knows the dance that he's gotten into and it comes to this point because he's humored
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it because he understands the popularity, uh, and, uh, audience that Nick can attract.
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I think I'm going to refer back to longterm goals, shove them up your ass, shortterm goals.
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The only thing that matters.
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So the million dollar question is what would you do if you were in charge, Nick?
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Now this question, sorry, this question is sort of a trap because Alex knows what Nick
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would do if he was in charge.
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This is the big question.
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Obviously you wouldn't want to be a dictator.
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You wouldn't want to be, you know, but if you were George and you were the president,
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how would you in these wars, what would you do politically?
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What would you do to the left?
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People say, Oh, Trump's going to get in and be a dictator.
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Well, we're not about retribution.
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I said, this is the first hour of Roger Stone, but they've committed crimes.
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The deep state is embedded.
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It's a coup.
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So there's a coup that's taken over your government.
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You've got to go remove it.
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We're not looking for a fight.
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They already did it.
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So, so if, if, if you were the president, if you were president Trump, January 21st,
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2025 sworn in in front of the U S Capitol, what would Nick point us to?
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Well day one, I would fire 50,000 federal employees because what you have to recognize
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is when Trump got in the first time, it was the deep state that refused to allow him to
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carry out the agenda.
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And we could get into all the details on that, but it was literally an abject refusal and
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sabotage.
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I mean, borderly illegal and unconstitutional.
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So I'd fire 50,000 people right off the rip and replace it with loyal Patriots.
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So his second thing that he says is build the wall and three is capitulate to Russia
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about Ukraine to hope that you keep them from being aligned with China.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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So you have like a real whitewashing of his positions.
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You have a sanitizing them for the audience so they don't look like what they are.
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Yeah.
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I have some suspicion that Alex asked that question because he was trying to see if Nick
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would do his like normal shit that he does on his own show, which is a bit more extreme.
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Yeah.
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Or if you would do this version and he does this version.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is kind of realizing like I'm talking to a politician here.
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Sure.
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The guy who's not giving me his actual sincere opinions.
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Okay.
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He has to know that that is the question that will be answered by asking this question.
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Right.
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Are you fucking with me or are you speaking like your actual positions that you would
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in private?
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Because I was taking it and I think I understand that I was thinking of it more as like, if
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this is almost like a test, you know, like if you toe the line and have like a conversation
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with me, that's you capitulating to me instead of being like, here's what I think we should
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do.
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That would be you going rogue.
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You know what I mean?
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I think that that is what Alex hopes.
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Right.
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That if, if you give me the sanitized version, you're playing ball.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Is he hoping to play ball or is he hoping he'll go rogue?
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I think he's hoping he'll play ball.
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Okay.
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But at the same time knows that his heart is rogue.
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His heart is rogue.
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And there is, um, uh, and I think there's an attempt to get some sort of a power position
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in the conversation by being like, we both know what you actually believe.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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And I don't think that Nick cares.
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Right.
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I did.
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I do feel, I do get a little bit of Alex being like, kiss the ring.
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Just a little bit of that.
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You know, like, and I don't think Nick cares at all.
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Why would he kiss a ring?
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You're what are you, Alex?
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You're going to be gone in like five months maybe.
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Maybe two.
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Yeah.
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Based on your own words.
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Why would I kiss your dumb ring?
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Yeah.
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And so Alex is, is constantly trying to sort of tease this out.
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Yeah.
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This, this, um, Hey, your followers are Nazis.
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Yeah.
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Uh, you know that, right?
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Yeah.
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It's just very weird.
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All right, Nick Poitras, let's talk GMO, transhumanism, poison shots, UN treaties, world government,
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because I see a lot of the great work that folks are out there doing covering certain
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issues, but I'm not saying you, but it seems like a lot of your supporters are a one-track
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mind on one issue and one issue alone.
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And to me, I want to sell people on a pro-human future like Elon Musk is doing.
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And I'm not doing that to critique you or say you're wrong.
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I'm saying this is where I come from.
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This is what I actually believe.
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There's no wizards telling me what to do.
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Sometimes I wish there was.
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I am literally trying to fight for human future.
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I have four children.
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Hey, dumb, dumb.
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You have prophetic dreams.
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I mean, he literally said earlier that he has prophetic dreams, right?
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So somebody is myth magic telling him things in some way, but yeah, so, but the bottom
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line here is that Alex understands what Nick and his followers are about.
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He's just trying to dance around it because acknowledging it wouldn't play too well with
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some of the audience.
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Alex knows what Nick believes.
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He's already asked him direct questions that he has to know were answered dishonestly.
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And he continues to do this thing where he's pretending that Nick is a sincere actor here.
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And I think it's all defensive.
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This is only happening because there's a tenuous situation in this conversation that Nick is
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allowing to exist.
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Nick doesn't need Alex anymore, but Alex's audience is still a potential pool to recruit
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from.
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So he's letting Alex make these kinds of impotent digs on him.
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But at any point, Nick could drop everything and Alex would be fucked.
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And Nick would be able to be like, you know what I'm about.
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We had conversations about this.
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There is a thin illusion that is being maintained only at Nick's will.
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Yeah.
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And I mean, quite simply, just they all want a dictator and their arguments or Nick's arguments
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for being like, here's why I would become a dictator would be far more compelling than
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Alex's like, well, democracy have some flaws.
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Like it would be ridiculous.
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It would be an absolutely ridiculous argument.
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Yeah.
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And this is this is the point where I thought things were very weird.
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And that is that Alex has made it clear, like these things like I know what you're about.
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Your followers are one track mind.
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You're a Nazi.
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You hate the Jews.
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There is a lot of this.
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And Alex has been doing what it seems like prodding.
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Yeah.
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Almost.
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Yeah.
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And so you give me a little taste of the antisemitism.
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You would expect that the end result of this is Nick being like, all right, let's play
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it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Instead, Alex kind of drops the whole thing for fuck's sake.
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And it blows up in his face a little idiot.
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But it does all come down to, as you said, this full spectrum of issues.
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Everything that's getting in the way is coming from the globalists.
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It's the vaccines, it's the poison, GMO foods, it's things like birth control.
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I would contend it's even fundamentally built into modernity.
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It's the fact that women are deferring childbirth all the time.
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The average age at which women are having children is always going up.
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And the higher that it goes, the lower the fertility rate is.
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So let's just get the elephant in the room out in the open because you're being nicer
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on the show.
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I'm not afraid of going anywhere because like 80% of people in Israel are against Netanyahu.
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I just want to give Jews an opportunity to come in.
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I want to give Germans, Christians, Muslims, anybody.
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But Netanyahu did say he uses Israel as guinea pigs.
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And if you do look at Borla and if you do look at Larry Fink and the CEOs, they are
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predominantly Jewish.
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They're the leaders of the communist revolution, they're predominantly Jewish.
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And we've got great folks like the people that put out these major conservative universities
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like PragerU, they admit that.
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There's also a lot of great people that would be Jewish that are fighting that.
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But I wonder where that paradigm is where you have so many of the transhumanists like
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you all know Harari and others that are with Bill Gates, who sounds like a eugenicist Nazi
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to me and on that paradigm because when I try to oppose globalism or you all know Harari,
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I got a New York Times article on anti-Semitic, I didn't really make a focus on him being
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Jewish saying it's a posthuman world to say the future is not human.
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That sounds beyond Hitler.
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Hitler said it's only Aryan and slaves under it, which I don't agree with.
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But then when somebody says you're all dead, you're all scum, you're all trash, I have
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a real problem with that.
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So how do you square that up?
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Well, I think that religion is fundamental.
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And if I talk a lot about Jewish people, it's because I am fundamentally motivated more
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than anything by the mission to evangelize people into the Christian religion.
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For me in particular, that's the Catholic Church.
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I am a Christian fundamentalist.
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I don't know if you know this about me, the thing that I am, famously.
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That maybe defines my character and everything I do.
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So one thing I think is really interesting in that clip is that Nick is playing the game.
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He says all of this stuff comes from the globalists.
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The vaccines.
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He's even kind of making a joke out of saying the globalists.
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It's almost there.
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I'm not sure that that necessarily is, but maybe you're picking up on, maybe that's what
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Alex picked up on.
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Yeah, it could be.
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Maybe that was, but I don't think that he's necessarily trying to tease.
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He may be.
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I don't know.
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But there is a playing the game, which is in service of appealing to Alex's audience
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that doesn't like you and getting them over to your content where you can speak freely
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and say all the crazy awful shit that you do say.
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When Alex says you're being nice on the show, that's code for, I know you mean the Jews
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and you're fucking with me.
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He is forcing the issue.
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From the outside, you might think, oh, well, Alex doesn't need to do this.
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This is a whole thing.
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But I do kind of get this feeling, for the longest time I've experienced a great deal
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of frustration when Alex calls them the globalists, what really he's just saying the Jews, right?
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Imagine being Alex who spent your entire life calling the globalists, but really you were
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just saying Jews, having to listen to this guy who spent his entire life calling them
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the Jews, calling them the globalists to you.
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That's almost like, that's how I feel.
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I'm like, shut the fuck up and just say the word that you want to say.
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And I feel it.
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I feel it coming from Alex right here.
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I get it.
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I think some of that is probably baked in and then some of it is Patriot dominance that
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he wants to assert.
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There is this like, I think I can bust you, but you can't.
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No.
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Because Alex is basically just like, you hate Jews and then Nick is like, it's because I'm
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a Christian.
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It's like, oh no, you dodged it.
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Now what's Alex going to do?
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It's just not hard.
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It's just not hard.
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I'm a Christian fundamentalist and I hate everybody who's not a Christian.
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It's very, very simple.
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Oh, okay.
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And the problem for Alex also is in trying to set up this question where he's like, you're
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an antisemite, he has laid out a pretty antisemitic thread.
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Alex has staked his ground on shoddy territory and then Nick is able to just abandon him
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and leave him high and dry and be like, my bigotry is actually just fundamentally because
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I'm religious.
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Aren't you religious?
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Mm.
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Uh oh.
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Yeah.
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Alex is not in a good place.
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Yeah.
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I wouldn't want to be, uh, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't want to be there.
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So Nick, and now the door is open, uh, can just,
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just right walk on through, start the crusades all over again.
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Oh boy.
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So I don't have this view of, I don't have an indifferentist view of God that, you know,
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everybody's out there worshiping the same God.
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I think there's one Trinitarian God with a very specific particular nature.
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I think that one of those persons of God became incarnate in man.
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His name was Jesus Christ.
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He was put on the cross.
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He founded a church.
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Now the reason I say all that stuff is because of course the Jewish people rejected him and
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the Jewish people in rejecting him, in rejecting this Messiah that they were to bear.
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And a lot of the Jews, of course, the early Christian community was mostly Jewish people
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who then became Christians.
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But those Jews that persisted without accepting Jesus Christ, they kind of formed this new
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religion, this rabbinical Judaism, Maimonides is a part of it.
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There's a very dense and complicated history.
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And throughout history, you see them show up at the beginning of all of these evil movements,
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like the Kabbalah, like the Illuminati.
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You see them at the founding of, really, the Enlightenment with Baruch Spinoza.
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And you see them popping up all over the place, and I don't think that's a coincidence.
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I think that there's a very clear kind of dichotomy set up from a religious point of
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view between Christians and Jews.
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Yikes!
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Yikes, yikes, yikes!
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It's not a coincidence that you see Jews pop up in these things that I have deemed evil.
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Ugh!
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Yikes.
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Well, if that's your reasoning, no flaws there.
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Jesus Christ.
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Yeah, I just...
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Alex, you're fucked.
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That's so, so fucking stupid.
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I just hate that the audio of these arguments sounds similar.
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This isn't an argument.
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No, what are you saying?
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In my... how about I put it better?
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The tone, the way that he's speaking, sounds so similar all across the line, regardless
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of the content of his bullshit.
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You cannot be smart enough to know earlier things and stupid enough to still believe
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that shit.
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That is a calculated awareness of how to exploit other people's stupid beliefs.
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It's not a sincere belief whatsoever.
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The idea that he's... Nick Fuentes does not give a fuck about the Kabbalah.
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I think he has some feelings, but I don't know.
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It is exploitative in some sense, but man, Alex just shouldn't do this stuff.
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Like he's just allowing Nick free reign, because there's nothing he can do.
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This is Alex's best that he's got.
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Revelation talks very precisely about a synagogue of Satan.
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I think that Jews, being the only religion that say that Jesus is burning in hell, being
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the only religion that actually hates Jesus, I think that's extremely relevant.
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Sure, but let's back off from that, because I want to have a real discussion here.
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And I agree with what you're saying.
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That's true.
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What?
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It's the Jews came up with Abrahamic religions.
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I mean, there's something special about the Jews.
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Oh my God.
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Even before Jesus, King David, King Solomon, and all that.
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What do you think it is about the Jews?
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I mean, 3000 years ago, they were a big deal.
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I mean, let's recognize there's something going on there.
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Well, God chose them to bear the savior.
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God chose Adam and Eve and God chose Noah and God chose Abraham.
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And so they were raised up.
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Exactly.
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As much as I'm mad at what some of them are doing, I respect what they came from.
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You see the difference?
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Oh man, this is not good.
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I don't know what point Alex is necessarily hoping to distinguish himself from Nick on,
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but he's like, okay, you said a bunch of anti-Semitic shit.
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Now that is all true, but also our Jews are pretty cool.
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It feels like this was a plan to get his audience to a place where even Alex would be like,
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well, obviously it's reasonable to hate the Jews for these reasons, but I still believe...
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But it sounds like Alex got there on accident.
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He's like, well, hey, listen, you're making great points about how I hate the Jews.
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I'm with you.
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I've been there the whole time.
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I've been...
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Wait, what am I saying?
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I'm sorry.
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Are we doing this smarter or dumber?
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It does feel like Alex's hope is to, like I said, assert Patriot dominance over Nick
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and be like, your path is wrong.
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This is no good.
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You're a Hitler guy.
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But at the same time, all you have is Alex making sort of veiled jabs at him at the beginning
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and Nick not really giving a shit.
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And now Alex opening up this box, Nick being fine, and Alex floundering and saying a bunch
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of anti-Semitic shit.
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So it's actually Alex demonstrating that Nick is going to outdo him at every turn.
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At every possible turn.
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Yes.
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And that's unfortunate.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It does feel like Alex is just like, man, okay, if only Hitler was named George Washington
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II, then we could have really just made the ambiguity perfect.
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Oh, if only.
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Ugh.
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But they have a lot of agreement on a lot of things, like that there's a war on Christians
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going on.
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Obviously.
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Clearly, because they're allowed to say stuff like that.
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So there's definitely a UN global war on Christians.
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The UN admits it's record level attacks on Christians.
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Why do you think that is?
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I think it's because Christians, because they have belief in God, cannot be controlled by
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worldly powers.
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Of course, global government fears religion that they can't control.
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Of course, they fear it's just no different than the devil who thinks that he controls
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the world, who offered Jesus control over the world, if only Jesus would bow and worship
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at his feet.
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It's really that same frustration that the devil had.
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Jesus would not submit to him.
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Christians will not submit to the Antichrist New World Order system.
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That's because we worship God.
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That's totally true.
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That's why they're so pissed.
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I haven't said this yet, but they were dumb enough to do it outside of mediation.
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They just said, just come out against the Republicans and guns in America and we'll
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leave you alone.
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And I'm like, you just did that in nonmediation, you just admitted that.
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I mean, they are literally admitting that to me.
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They just want me to give up on my morals and be their slave.
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I can't physically do it, Nick.
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That's why when I get criticized for it, it makes me mad because I may be temporarily
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distorted through rose colored darklies, but I am trying to be a good person.
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I'm trying to tell the truth.
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I know and I know that and we know that.
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I mean, we'll reassure you, Alex.
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I know you're a good boy.
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What is happening?
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Alex is just floundering.
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I mean, it felt here's it felt like Alex was like, hey, I'm not a Nazi.
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You're a Nazi.
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Kiss the ring.
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And now Alex is like, I'm a Nazi.
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Would you make me feel better for being a Nazi?
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Because I don't want to.
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You don't lie.
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You don't try to lie.
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But it just seems like every time I say I'm not a Nazi and then you Nazi things, I go,
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I agree with you.
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Shit.
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Which makes me a Nazi.
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But I don't want to be a Nazi.
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Tell me it's OK to be a Nazi.
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Look, you don't try to lie.
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See?
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There we go.
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After you just lied about this mediation thing, this fucking made up story.
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OK, there's that.
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Just turn on the Second Amendment.
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What are we doing?
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I don't know.
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He's told that story for decades.
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Nonsense.
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So, look, I think that this is really at the heart of of all of this is this is just what
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Alex wants.
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All I want is open a big tent up to Christians, Muslims, Jews, agnostics, Catholics, Buddhists,
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Hindus.
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Just let's be anti New World Order.
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Let's be anti CBDC.
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You get my thing is I'm just trying to say these are the policies I'm against.
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I'm not going to list a group to ensure there's groups behind it.
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You get where I'm coming from.
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I absolutely get where you're coming from on that.
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Yeah, I get where you're coming from.
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Just say globalist.
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That's that's what you're.
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We didn't need to do this whole thing, right?
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Alex is just begging him almost like, come on, code, use code.
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That's all that you need to do was you're the one who stopped.
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I was using code.
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I did the thing.
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I said globalist.
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But I think that Alex forced the issue probably because he knew that Nick would at some point.
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Yeah, like he would.
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He knew that Nick is not going to play ball forever.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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And so he was trying to get ahead of whatever Nick would end up doing, but which is once
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again turning Alex into a place where he goes, I'm a Nazi.
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Just don't say groups, even if there are groups, even if there are, just say, pretend it's
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about issues.
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Don't say a group.
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Jesus Christ.
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This is it's a it's a shameful demonstration of Alex's inept abilities to try and coach
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a Nazi.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Anyway.
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Yeah.
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Great stuff.
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When are you going to settle down enough kids?
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That's a good question, Nick.
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You're a Catholic lunatic.
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You're supposed to have eight kids by now.
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It's the best thing ever, brother.
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You're a good looking guy.
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Come on.
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You ain't got some girl you're in ready to marry.
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I'm going to get serious soon.
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You know, I'm just, uh, I'm really focused on what, what I'm doing and you know me when
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you were my age, you were a Chad, you were in the gym, you were muscular.
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I'm a, I'm kind of like a little autistic.
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I have a little more trouble.
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I mean, you're, you're like the boomer dad.
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I'm like the autistic Zoomer generational Nick, you're a good, I was sure you could get a
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lot of girls.
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My friend, I wouldn't, I wouldn't get yourself down there.
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One of these days, one of these days, I'm going to start a big Catholic family and uh,
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you know, well, all our kids will be hanging out fighting the new world order.
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You know, the Godfather, he says, he spent in town with your family and he says, yeah,
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he goes, cause a man's not a man.
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Let's just spend time with his family.
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I'm telling you the best thing ever.
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So this is another attempt to assert some sort of dominance, you know, like patronizing
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you about like when you're going to have a family and Nick isn't even affected by that
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because Alex is it like Alex is trying to embody the exact thing that Nick makes a joke
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about is that you're the boomer dad, I'm the Zoomer son and like you can't own that dynamic
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if Nick is comfortable with it and joking about it.
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So Alex has attempted asserting some kind of fatherly thing here falls apart.
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This is just, he doesn't have the tools to do what he wants to do with Nick.
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Yeah.
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And that's, yeah, I mean he never did.
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Nope.
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And it just, it is, he can't, what, what, what would it be like that, that narcissism
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gift of being able to think that regardless of any and all available facts, you are the
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most important person available in this room at all times.
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Right?
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Like, but that also is a curse because no matter how much, no matter how often this
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happens, Alex will eventually get to the point where he's like, okay, I can do it this time.
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Let's have Nick on.
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I'm going to get him to do this stuff.
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I'm going to debate David Duke.
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I'm going to do the whole thing.
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I'm going to do it this time.
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I swear to God.
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And then he's going to do it again.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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And there are real consequences that he ends up seeing, like obviously there are audience
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members of his, and you can see remnants of this in message boards and comment sections
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where they're like, oh my God, this guy who everyone told me is a Nazi, he's making a
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lot of great points.
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Yeah.
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And you know, like there is a radicalization by degree of the audience that happens because
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of these failures of hubris.
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Well, I mean, Alex just said, yeah, mostly a Nazi.
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I mean, as close as you can get to saying I'm an out and out Nazi without being like
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segregation now, segregation forever, but Alex doesn't actually see any concrete effect
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of this.
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That's true.
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Other than periodically, Nick will say some, uh, wild shit about him, some jab about how
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he's milk toast and stuff.
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Yeah.
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It feels like that's the consequence that he experiences and that's what he's pushing
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back on.
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That's what he's.
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Yeah.
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That's his consequence is a YouTube comment saying, you're not as cool as you used to
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be, man.
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Yeah.
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And this show is just Twitter.
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Jesus Christ.
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I am.
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Yeah.
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What are we going to do?
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So Nick has a thought that he wants to get to, although we were, we are very close to
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the end of the show.
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Okay.
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It opens all this archetypal energy is what I'm trying to say.
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And I want to see you when you're a father, because that is going to be the next level.
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All right.
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We got five minutes left.
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You got the floor.
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I've been interrupting Nick for one guest.
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What else is on your radar?
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Well, I guess the, the big thing that's on my radar, not to open up a whole new can of
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worms or anything, but I'm, I'm really looking at this vice presidential race and
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Oh yeah.
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You mentioned Trump and a little bit of the next hour.
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They got to go.
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You got a big secret mission, but yeah.
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Talk about the presidential race.
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There is no next hour.
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They're in the fourth hour.
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They've already done the fourth hour.
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There is there.
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We have no time to hang over into, to talk about the VP race because we've had to do
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all this nonsense.
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I appreciate Alex's viewpoint on this, which is there is nothing more boring to me than
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you talking about the VP.
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But I, I agree with wholeheartedly.
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I was interested what his thoughts on, um, what the VP should be.
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Oh yeah.
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Well, I mean, just sort of out of curiosity, I mean, I mean like Alex's Alex would be like,
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let's talk about all this stuff.
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Not like a VP.
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I want to talk to you about how great it is to be a father.
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I don't want to talk about it.
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I don't want to talk about it.
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Who cares?
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The last one we had, we were like, let's hang him.
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Who cares about the VP?
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I have prophetic dreams, can we talk about that?
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No, I wouldn't talk about the VP.
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I was interested just from a sort of trivia perspective where Nick's head was.
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I don't know who he wants, but we learned someone he doesn't want to.
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But you know, Trump is, I love Trump, but he's getting up there in age and I think that
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he's a delegator.
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He's a businessman.
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And the last administration, unfortunately, delegated a lot to Jared Kushner.
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And this administration, I think he'll be delegating a lot to the vice president.
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All signs point to this Senator JD Vance from Ohio, and I gotta be, just like you and me,
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we're the first ones to call out the Red Mirage in 2020.
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Once again, we're going to break it on InfoWars.
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I feel like the big thing that I'm worried about to kind of call it out is JD Vance becoming
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the VP.
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This guy's bad news.
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Yep, JD Vance is bad news.
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Has anybody ever milked one book more than this motherfucker?
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I think, yeah, I mean, he's done quite well with it.
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I don't, that's not my sense of who is top of the list.
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I have no idea.
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There was a feeling of this that was like, you know, Nick brings up, I want to talk about
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the VP race.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I thought there was going to be something that was actually interesting and then it's
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like, I don't like JD Vance.
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That's weird.
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Okay.
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That's weird.
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It's kind of anticlimactic.
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Yeah, because the last time I talked about the VP or the last time I read about it was
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like, in her book, murdered her dog because she was annoyed and like, it was like, it's
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like falling out of the contention.
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That's the type of VP conversation I was expecting, not like, telling Vivek that you'd never vote
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for him because he's Indian.
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Totally.
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Boom.
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That's what VP we're talking about here.
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Not this JD Vance.
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I don't want JD Vance.
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Fine.
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Yeah.
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I feel like that's a, that's a sort of common perspective.
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I don't, maybe JD Vance is higher up on the list than I think, but I don't know.
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Right?
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I just, I don't understand.
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See, this is the thing about learning and I get, I get what they think because they
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probably think they can, right?
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But your last vice president on his last day, you were like, let's hang this guy.
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Yeah.
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You don't care about your vice president.
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Not necessarily.
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Because if the vice president has something you like, you like that vice president now.
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Yes.
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Ah, this will be a good vice president later.
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You think, but what if that vice president does something you don't like later?
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They're gonna have to hang him.
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Let's hang him.
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So who cares?
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Who cares who it is?
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Well, there's a, there's a flip side of this a double edged sword and that is if you like
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him too much, you'll want to hang Trump.
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So he can become president.
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That's the idea of having a dictator.
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You idiots.
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You're the fucking sith.
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Well, he loves Revenge of the Sith.
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Exactly.
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Anyway, what a trash episode.
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This sucks.
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That's bad stuff.
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Roger Stone, Andrew Wakefield, Nick Fuentes.
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What a pile of shit.
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That's garbage.
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Allowed to be a famous, oh my God.
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Yep.
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Weird.
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Anyway, I think that Alex's intentions were poorly executed for whatever he was trying
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to do.
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Um, and maybe one day he'll learn.
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Probably not.
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Doubtful.
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There are only a few ways to do that.
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And, uh, dreams seem to be where he's at.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Prophetic dreams.
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I doubt he's going to a lot of, uh, uh, graduate level courses in those prophetic dreams.
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Probably.
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Probably not.
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We'll be back with another episode.
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Possibly.
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Um, I don't know how to tease things.
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You don't know how to tease?
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You don't know how to hype?
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We were made for hyping.
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Uh, possibly.
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Pulsibly.
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Pulsibly.
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A traded.
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Nope.
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Now I got nothing for that.
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We'll be back.
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Anyway, we have a website.
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Yep.
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It's now it's right to come.
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Yep.
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We're also on, not on social media.
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Nope.
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No social media.
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Uh, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZXKark.
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I am the mysterious professor.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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And now here comes the sex robot.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
