Transcript/915: August 29, 2005

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, knowledge

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fight, knowledge fight, I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are

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the good guys, I'm sick of them posing as the good guys, saying we are the bad guys,

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I'm sick of them posing as the good guys, saying we are the good guys, saying we are

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the good guys, saying we are the good guys, saying we are the good guys, saying we are

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the good guys, saying we are the good guys, saying we are the good guys, saying we are

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the good guys, saying we are the good guys, saying we are the good guys, saying we are

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the good guys, saying we are the good guys, saying we are the good guys, saying we are

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I don't even know how to describe him in the first season. He's just the that he's on he's

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One of the weirdest survivor players I've ever seen okay

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And then he comes back, and he has a tattoo of an immunity idol on his chest all right all right

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He's gotten okay. He's very into his position as King George survivor

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It feels like maybe he's got that one on lockdown. Yeah, yeah, he's

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He's a lot of fun. I would have liked to see him on

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a

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Immunity idol on the chest race where would you put it?

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I would I would do it. I would think shoulder. You know. I would think

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Maybe a cat always wear the immunity necklace though. Oh, it's a necklace. Yeah, maybe I was usually a necklace

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I never wear the I never watched the survivors

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I don't know about that's not a bracelet otherwise tattoo be on the arm sure naturally naturally I get that

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Idol was something you held like a Oscar statue. Yeah, yeah, I like Luke from Australian survivor

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But there's at least five people. I think that I would have chosen before him as like chaotic energies

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But he's good

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Anyway, no I understand that there's another season of Australian survivor, too, and I can't find it so no

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I've missed I'm a bit behind on that, but yeah, I guess my bright spot is foreign TV. Yeah

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Yeah, yeah, I was the Australian and New Zealand based TV. It's always nice to watch TV from from other countries

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I I appreciate it because there is a certain level of like with our

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American culture and how it is so oppressively pushed out everywhere else you can get the idea that people have a homogenized

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You know media landscape

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Whereas you know you can you find stuff in other countries that you can't find elsewhere like in Germany

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Well show where they like if you can cut this perfectly in half you win. That's a great show sure

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There is a little bit of that those quirks, but also you know

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You when you're complaining about the homogeneity where are we are talking about the show?

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That was licensed into other countries to be the exact same thing yeah elsewhere

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Yeah, so maybe it is an example of the exact opposite of anyway. What's your brain?

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Oh, I don't know. I like that the Australian traders takes place in a different house and a hotel yeah

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Yeah, it seems very yeah, and that they use silver instead of exactly it makes. It's confusing

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Yeah, yeah, especially since Australia is known for its gold deposit

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I don't know

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Oh

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Anyways their bread spot. Oh my bright spot is that I'm catching up on new music. Okay. It's been a while

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I've you know the the whole all lost all my music reserves thing so now I'm get back at it getting back to the new

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stuff

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Catching up with all the 2024 releases all that stuff. Let me tell you something no name

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Mm-hmm that's all you need to know okay. I don't know I mean, but she's amazing okay

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That's the second thing you need to know no name amazing

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She's amazing. Okay, Chicago rapper. You should also know that sure but more poet

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Multimedia artist to know yeah, you got to know that

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Okay, she's she's pretty important. I've heard of her before yeah, she's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah her most recent album fucking incredible

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It came out this year. I don't even remember. I don't know because my

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Hard drive and all that stuff, so I've just been catching up on all the stuff that I haven't been able to get to

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So I don't even know if it's this year. I feel like it's this year or late last year

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Okay, one of the other can I tell you about a hot new band. Yes, you can new found glory. No you cannot

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That is old found glory it is

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less glorious mmm, so

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Jordan today we have an episode to go over and we're gonna be in the past

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But this plot twist okay, and we'll get to that here in a moment, but first is the present

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The in some ways okay, but we'll get down to business on this, but before we do let's say hello to some new ones

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That's a great idea so first Jeff Newberry recommended knowledge fight, and now this is all I do

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Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk

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Next we call that a Donald J. Trump of crimes also Rosie is a butt. Thank you so much

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You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you next cannibal gang barbecue leader Lord barbecue aka King barbecue

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Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much

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Thank you next Brian T. The BT robot. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much, and we're gonna take credit in the mix Jordan

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So thank you so much to a couple who literally met because of your podcast Kim and Connor congratulations on getting married

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Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above

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my enemies I might quit tomorrow actually I'm just gonna take a little break you know a

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little breaky for me and

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then we're going to come back and

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I'm gonna start the show over

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Fuck you

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Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you

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But at the end of the day fuck you and your New World Order and fuck the horse

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You wrote in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month. Maybe five years

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Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again

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That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again

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I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air

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I'll be better tomorrow nah never so I told you we're in the past, but there's a twist yes

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Also, congratulations to the couple on there

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Congratulations um so we've been in 2004 and we've been seeing the path that Alex is taking through

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the capture of Saddam Hussein the insistence that

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There's going to be the bath parties put it being put back in power the whole thing and nothing that was evolving

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No

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And I got to a point where I'm listening to a bunch of episodes in a row

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And there's just nothing happening. It is a dead zone, and I lost all interest in

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In 2004 I don't think that the bath party being put back in power is evolving in any meaningful way

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I think he's at this point pretty much forgotten that that was the storyline

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He was telling yeah, and I just I don't see a whole lot happening

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We had that massive brain chip guy interview yeah, and that felt like this is gonna be like revolutionary

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This is gonna become the next

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Great season of content should and that's just kind of disappointing and so I found myself in a position

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Where I had a past

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Dangling thread that sucked and then we have the present day that sucks yeah, and so I made an executive decision

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And that is I'm done with 2004 for the present good call for the present time

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I'm gonna put that part to bed where you know there may still be plenty more to learn deep in those hills

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Sure, keep digging sure, but I I decided that our time especially as we

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Shift focus off the present day is better used in and used in another place

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And I think that a lot of the fertile

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lessons and things we can learn have come from going back to look at major events and

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His stuff like the Boston bombing and hook shooting

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And so I thought there's one thing that immediately popped to mind. Let me ask you a question

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Yeah, all right have has is this a tie-in with x-men 97 have you finally caved to the pressure of big business?

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Are we going back to 1997? I wish I mean if I had Alex's shows from 97

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I'd love to hear what he was up to then that would be fun. Yeah, no, I do not okay, though

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Gambit does make an appearance. Oh, I knew it in this well

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I actually meant that as a joke, but this does have to do with Louisiana

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So yeah

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Well, we are always going down to the bayou so sorry apologies for interrupting no no problem

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They had to get that plug it had to get it in there trying to cut in so I I feel like

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I

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Wanted to find another event and something major that we haven't actually covered and we don't know exactly what Alex's

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actions were like like you know

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I think a lot of people have a general sense of what Alex was up to with January 6th sure

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But a lot of the times you don't know what was happening on the show on that day. Yes

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You know and I think that there's value in going back and observing these things

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And one of the largest things that I could think of that is like that is Hurricane Katrina

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Mmm. I know the Alex eventually uses it as like there's gun grabbing sure and all that stuff

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naturally, but

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We haven't listened to any of Alex's coverage during the time

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that's of the hurricane and the immediate aftermath of that so I decided we're gonna jump to 2005 and

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check in on

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Alex's coverage of Hurricane Katrina as it happens as things unfold I

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Swear to God if Joe Rogan shows up on the day of Hurricane Katrina. I'm gonna be furious you're fine. Okay. Thank you

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You're fine. Jesus Christ that still makes me angry. It's still all Joseph Watson does but no yeah, no Rogan

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Okay, good, but we don't know I mean to be fair. It's a multi-day affair

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Yeah, that's a good nose

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So we're gonna show up at some point if those two are behind every horrible incident

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I'm gonna be furious or at least they have some kind of a yeah

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Yeah, some sort of an overrest gump ass showing up at the wrong time sure yeah sure yeah

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You ever read Forrest Gump to company read Forrest Gump to is that a book? Yeah, the guy who's got to is a book

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Yeah, yeah, I did not know that yeah

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What does he do I only have brought this fresh to my memory because I I was

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reading on some stuff about the Exxon Valdez

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Uh-huh because of the force of the boat crash yeah, yeah recent episode right rare

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I mean it jogged my memory because I read something about how in the second Forrest Gump book he causes the Exxon Valdez

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crash

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He's that is amazing. Yeah. There's a bunch more like historical things that he gets it's a little bit more tackily done

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I like the idea of just putting it every major incident is just mr.. Magoo behind the problem. I like that

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Yeah, that's kind of what gump and company. Yeah, that makes sense, but

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anyway company so

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the

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Hurricane Katrina

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it made

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Initial contact in Florida on the 25th of August yes

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and so goes through Florida and then into the Gulf of Mexico and

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hits Louisiana mm-hmm, but

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My plans kind of got foiled a tiny bit, and that is because I wanted to get a little bit of the coverage prior

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To the hurricane that's where I wanted to start sure sure because I wanted to see how much was Alex talking about this right was this

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potentially a

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emergency drill

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Situation right you know he'll do things like that right right right

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He'll try and make the most out of something like we see with the Eclipse now

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You know you see him, but doing a lot of preparation for

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What he can get out of a scenario? Yeah? Yeah? He's like a caveman

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It's like if you can predict something in advance, then you're the witch who caused it, or if you know enough about

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Something that's going to happen you can lay track so no matter

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What happens when that thing happens you can incorporate it into the path that you're on right?

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You do see him do that a bit and unfortunately in August

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2005 Alex has taken a vacation and

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So he is out of studio the entire week prior

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to and during the initial

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Florida aspect of hurricane Katrina gotcha and so he he doesn't show back up until the 29th son of a bitch

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So he comes into studio on Monday the 29th. Yeah, and that's where we will begin because

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the rest of it is

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Broadcasts of the prior weeks yes, so we start and Alex does have a story about the hurricane

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Right off the bat, okay, US oil surges

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four dollars to record price

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above

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$70 a barrel because of the hurricane

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That has missed, New Orleans

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Predominantly there is some flooding going on, but no deaths. Thank God

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being reported

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There would have been a direct hit on the city. We're looking at total flooding and billions of dollars of damage, but

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Just like the bullet they dodged last year this

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Category five hurricane slowed down to category four as it went on land and the main force of the storm

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145 mile-an-hour winds

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Missed most of the city of New Orleans down there in

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Tin City central so as Alex begins the show here on the 29th

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You can tell he has the tone of a near miss in terms of how he's covering the hurricane

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And he's not wildly wrong to be striking that posture at this point in time with the information Alex could likely have access to

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It feels like things could have been a lot worse, and that's the information that's being put forth right

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So like it seems striking because we know what right?

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But for him, that's he's not

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Minimizing this in any kind of just information coming out of this region is such that this is a reasonable response to have yeah

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And it's awesome. That would be an awesome outcome

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Unfortunately fortunately we did not live that so on August 25th Katrina had hit, Florida as a category one hurricane

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Though the hurricane killed nine people in this landfall once it made it to the Gulf of Mexico and was headed towards, Louisiana

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It began to pick up steam and eventually grew to a category five storm on the evening of the 27th

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New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin began encouraging voluntary evacuation which would become mandatory the next morning

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Forecasts put it at almost even odds that the storm would make a direct hit on the city

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So when Alex discusses things like a bullet being dodged

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He's operating from the place where that was the worst possible outcome and when Katrina didn't hit New Orleans directly

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It felt like the worst-case scenario didn't happen and there was some cause for relief

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Unfortunately and possibly unbeknownst to Alex in this moment just prior to him going on air

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Multiple levees had failed to prolong canals in the city and much of New Orleans was under feet of water

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It's plausible to believe that Alex wouldn't have gotten this information by the time his show starting

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But as he's on air this is a situation that is unfolding in real time and the notion of a bullet being dodged will look

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more and more naively optimistic

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Oil prices did go up as a result of the hurricane much of which was the natural consequence of damage being done to oil

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refineries and other facilities in the Gulf of Mexico

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the Federal Trade Commission released a report on allegations of price gouging related to gasoline during the storm and found that there was no

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evidence of illegal market manipulations

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but they also assessed financial information from a slew of refiners wholesalers and

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retailers and found that 15 such entities of 77 analyzed quote had higher average gasoline prices in September

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2005 compared to August and that these prices were not substantially attributable to either higher costs or to national or international

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market trends

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However, much of this was able to be attributed to factors like regional or local market trends

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So they didn't consider these to be instance as a price gouge. Sure. Sure. Sure. Yeah

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So like in terms of I mean look if you want to talk about like some local things

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Sure, then I'm sure there are examples that you can find sure but when Alex is talking about like the price of oil going up

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yeah, there's a reason for that and

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investigation has shown that there's

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Reason to attribute that to national and international market forces. Sure. So there's nothing really

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Oh, like I just I just love the I love the world we live in where it's like aha

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Well, there's no illegal market manipulation, right? Because you know what that implies

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There is legal market manipulation some market. I mean, I think you say that legal market manipulation could be like

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competition, you know

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Shh I think I think that's what they might yeah. Well, ah, yes people who manipulate the markets would very much like you do

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I wish I would have looked into that a little bit more to know exactly what their definition of legal and illegal

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Market, because isn't that the question is that yeah

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Yeah, that is the term that they used was right. They didn't find evidence of illegal market

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Manipulation that's like, okay. Come on now it you'd hope that that would be redundant. You would hope that yeah

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Yeah, so Alex does have some other commentary

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And he makes a fair criticism

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But it's also dumb coming from him fair enough and I do have some comments about the hurricane

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Cut the the funding the federal funding which there shouldn't even be federal funding to begin with that

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What if the government's gonna be doling money out?

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They cut the federal funding at record levels for for for trying to repair and strengthen

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The levees around the city which is several feet below sea level and sinking what three or four inches a year

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the city is sinking and

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The Houston Chronicle reported last year and we pulled this article out that thousands could die if there's ever a direct hit

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on New Orleans by a hurricane

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So more people could die by a direct hit by hurricane than on 9-11

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But is the government spending just a few paltry hundred million dollars to protect that city which they could do a hundred percent

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Absolutely not so it is bad that Bush cut funding for the maintenance of the levees in New Orleans

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But if you listen to this clip Alex has absolutely no leg to stand on in the argument

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His position is that there should be no federal funds going to this at all

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So Bush's actions are in service of getting us closer to the situation Alex wants to be the case

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Bush deserves criticism, but for it to come from Alex's incoherent his position doesn't make sense

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It's absolutely true that George W Bush's administration had repeatedly underfunded requests from the Army Corps of Engineers Hurricane Protection

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Project and you can extrapolate that this underfunding could have contributed to the disaster and how things played out

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Although there are levee breaches and flooding on this day August 29th

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It was the next morning when the additional breaches occur in approximately 80% of the city ends up flooded at this point on the 29th

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There's still a government posture that levees didn't break or at least that the indications were that they hadn't with the DHS

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Relacing a statement to that effect at 6 p.m. So there's there is that

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In congruence of information, yeah that exists at this point

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Okay, but at the same time with the gift of hindsight

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We can say that Alex's criticism of Bush here sure is good, right?

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But okay, I don't want to hear it from him. Let me pitch you this. All right, let me pitch you this

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We can't we can't do restricting the First Amendment. We've already talked about that ad nauseum. How about this though? We add

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Sports rules. All right, we add scores. All right

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So if you come at me with this if you Alex Jones in 2005 come at me with they didn't spend enough on

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You know preventing disaster money. Haha kept score now if you make a criticism

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Ah, they're spending too much on doesn't count doesn't count you lose points. All right, you see what I'm saying

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This would be a very complicated system to implement

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It could be helpful, but it could be helpful because then we'd be like, ah, no

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He got negative 15 points from the last time. This is only plus five for being right about that

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See what I'm saying. Sure keep score

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Well, I mean, it's the same thing is like on our last episode Alex was talking about we need massive public works programs to get

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To Mars. Yeah

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Now think about where we are now if you're a casual observer you're like, oh I don't follow basketball

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But I know LeBron is great. I don't follow basketball, but I know Alex Jones is shit

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These are things that are important. See like you have

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It's such an interesting dynamic because you have the like a correct point

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Bush is a was fucking irresponsible and they did not

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Follow the guidance of people who wanted and saw problems that were potential in advance underfunded these things

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And you have that criticism coming from Alex. Now. You have to ask yourself

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What do you want to be the case and for Alex?

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He he's only using this complaint as a prop because you know short of a flood

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Happening he would say give them no money. Yeah, absolutely

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it's only because this stuff is happening and it is a

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A point of attack that you could make against the person he wants to attack. Yeah, that's the only reason he cares about it

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He wishes that Bush would have cut more. That's that's a like an almost

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Parasitic element of every government though, you know, like the ah, you shouldn't have done that no matter what event happens

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Oh, okay. You didn't spend enough on this

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You should have spent more after the fact or you spend enough on this and then it didn't turn out to be the biggest problem

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So you're an asshole. It doesn't matter what way it goes. What matters is I get to call you an asshole, you know

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so there are some

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ripples of the present

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Some of this sounds about right you asked to have more quarantine stations are tripling the number

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this is due to the fact of the of the of the bird flu and the swine flu and

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Britain's elite get pills to survive the bird flu this out of the Times of London today. Don't worry

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I'm sure that some of the

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Patriots for profit out there will will have a magical cream for you that will will heal you of this or perhaps a magic pyramid

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But boy, believe me. It's a fraud ladies and gentlemen. Oh boy

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It is just like

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It's

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Bizarre to go back and hear just like an end self-indictment

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I know I know that's it is it is unfortunate because if there was anything

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Anything deserving of getting hit it would be the past if I could throw a punch. It would be directly at the past face

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well, I mean, I think that

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one of the things that's interesting about Alex's past is you have this like

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It's more

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Accurate than the present granted not like this, you know trying to fear monger about bird flu or swine flu or anything like that

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But like hey, there are Patriots for profit that are gonna try and sell you a magic cream like my colloidal silver wound gel

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It's uh, it's just it's it makes me very

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Convinced that the shit that he does in the present is far more

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Consciously manipulative than we may want to believe at times of what I feel like I've learned over time

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In my life that I was completely wrong about right is that I thought

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for most of my life like political beliefs and religious beliefs were like the

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The bedrock, you know, like they are the same

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Always, you know, but now over time

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I'm finding out that they are relative to what other people think about you at any given point in time

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And if you can get away with bullshit

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Then it doesn't matter what your religious or political beliefs are because that's what your real religious or political beliefs are what you can

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Get away with well sometimes and motherfuckers and I also think that a lot of Alex's political beliefs are defined by opposition

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Yeah, and so it's just kind of mad at whoever you know the other side. Yep

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So I you know tuned in because this is the first day

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during Hurricane Katrina that Alex has a show and I

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didn't

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Find that much better again Katrina, honestly

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It's not a big issue for him

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Instead he spends a fair amount of time talking about how he was on vacation. Uh-huh, and he read some books about

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1776 that's crazy. So he talks about that. Okay, and I wrote a bunch of notes stuff

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I wanted to talk about and of course, I didn't brand into the studio and and you know, my humble

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brain just cannot describe the eloquence and the intelligence and the

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Courage and the honor and just I mean it folks. I wrote a history that was anti-american. I

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like to read both sides and it was

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It was talking about the incredible

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fortitude of the American forces

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And then to just look at us today

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slovenly

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stupid

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People who don't even know where their state capitals are who don't have any idea about where you know

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major land masses or continents are who don't

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Know about the three branches of government that don't know what the Fourth Amendment is or the 10th or the 9th or the 7th

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who don't have any inkling of anything just

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Just mindless idiots and I'm talking about the Democrats I'm talking about the Republicans

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We have just been domesticated. We are the children of the children of the children of the children of spoiled brats

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We talked about the World War two generation being the greatest generation

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And yeah, they were more moral and more informed and more intelligent more brave in many cases than we are today

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But compared to people in 1776, I'm telling you folks the greatest generation

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I'm sorry, if you don't want to hear it, it's not the World War two generation. It's the generation of

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1776 and that 12-year war

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For 1798

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88 it just makes my head spin

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It just makes my head spin

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To read what globalists in Europe were saying about how they would lose their empire of control over their slaves

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If we have this bad example in America, we're fighting the same people today same shit, and we're all dumb now

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Hmm, the Revolutionary War ended in 1783. I think when he said 88 that's when the Constitution was ratified

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That sounds right. So maybe that's what he means. I don't know. These dates are strange

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Anyway, you read a lot of books about the 1776 and he has a lot of feelings about it

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Sure, how much we suck now. Sure. Sure. Great

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Hmm. You should you should not have you can't make any mistakes

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If you're on a rant about how stupid everybody is and then at the end of just kind of Peter out and be like

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I don't actually remember what I was right when your whole point is about like trivia

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People don't know of course like hey sure, you know, maybe where the continents are is a pretty basic trivia

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Sure, but it's still just information that people have or don't I mean and then you don't have the information that oh well

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Yeah, whatever. It is a little ironic. You know what? Here's I don't know why this happened, but

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Hey, this was around the time that Jesse Ventura had released that book, right? Was it I think it was

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I don't know what happened. Was it republic rips and demo of what I

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think it was was

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was

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What what Democrats and Republicans?

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whatever it is, I

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Kept I couldn't get it out of my head and I was like, is it republic rips and bloody kratz deader better?

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And that's where I'm at. That's what that that's what I have to draw from

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That clip republic rips and

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Republicans is that

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demo Crips and

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Republican see what I'm saying republic rips and bloody kratz makes so much better. It's been so much better, right?

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Yeah, I mean, I think that if you could have made another pass at this

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Yeah, maybe but you're also your premise is entirely wrong that book came out in 2012. Oh, man

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Well, then I'm way off I'm way off

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Jesse Ventura very well may have been a relevant political figure in 2005, but that book was seven years later

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It up fair enough. So Alex is mad because of

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Reading these books sure

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I thought sure but it turns that there's actually something else happened on his vacation that made him mad

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Okay, and that is that he ended up listening to rush limbaugh. Oh, he does not like rush limbaugh at this point

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Why am I so mad?

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Why do I get frustrated because there's no way to cover it all?

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I'm driving back yesterday from the Texas coast

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every time

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Once a year I go down there for a few days and there's always a hurricane forms and comes but luckily

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It was coming our direction after our little vacation was over again. I haven't had a big vacation in five years, so I

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apologize for taking five days off, but

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It's been five years since I did that and I did it. In fact, I just said five years. I've never

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Taken a week off. I have never taken a week off, but I did do it side issue

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They rear rush limbaugh here locally in Austin

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Now remember folks, I mean I was back back in college I was listening to rush limbaugh. I mean I used to love rush limbaugh

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I mean, I bought his books. I even wore a rush limbaugh t-shirt

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My father the limbaugh letter

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We're talking, you know 12 years ago or longer

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But then my uncle said, you know, he's not a real conservative son. This is like

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My uncle told me that about 15 years ago

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And I rolled my eyes at him and and argued with him and then he started explaining to me

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How the Republicans were controlled?

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this is back when George Bush was president the first George Bush Bush 41 and

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I still disagreed with him, but those those seeds

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five years later

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When I myself have gotten into talk radio

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Began to grow and I began to see and let me tell you if the rush limbaugh 15 years ago was bad and a and a

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Wolf in sheep's clothing. He's really bad today

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So I'm driving back from Galveston, Texas

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listening to

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three hours of rush limbaugh, I

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Mean I listened to him from the time. I left Galveston till the time. I got back to the Austin, Texas

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And it was lie after lie after lie, I mean folks it wasn't just twisting or spinning

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He's never been this bad and he sounded he sounded

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Inebriated I will tell you that he sounded real weird. He sounded real arrogant real assured

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euphoric

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He was

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Gibbering at times, but it sounds familiar

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I mean it is it is a very

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Boy and you know the problem I think really ultimately comes down to time

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Yeah, because at this point his critique is fairly accurate. I would agree a couple years after rush had had his

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opiate

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Admission and so like, you know, there's a chance that maybe he is on some pills or something like that

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I mean Russia is a liar and he's full of shit can't argue with you

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and so Alex's point is not wrong, but again coming from him and knowing what we know and it's not like he was a

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Example of integrity prior to listen to 2004 shit where he's lunatic and a liar but like

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The specific way he's describing rush. He's full of arrogance. He's

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Do you know what it is? What it's the traitors?

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It's the traitor who's like if I give up a traitor

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Then they'll think I'm great and I'm the traitor hunter guy

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It's that thought process all over again, isn't it like that? Like, oh look look at me

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I'm above the left-right paradigm rush limbaugh

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He sucks for being all those things that I can't wait to become my uncle told me about this 15 years

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Exactly. Yeah, absolutely his dad. I'm the I'm the guy who hunts out real

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Conservatives, you know what I'm saying? Um, look, I mean, I like the traders as much as the next guy very clear

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But maybe not everything now we boil it all down to the traders. Okay and sports points, huh?

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What else do I have? I am reducing everything to meaninglessness

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So rush Alex was listening to rush and he saw

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accidentally his future self sure sure if he had a real download of the future from God

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Can you imagine the ghost of Christmas future showing up and Scrooge being like

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That's what we're at yeah, that's the problem

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Yeah, I don't have any reason to think that Alex wouldn't at this point

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Hate to become sure the thing that he sees in rush. Sure

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So, I don't know if if there was a ghost of the Christmas future. Yeah, it came at this point

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He would have that reaction. He might be like, oh no now granted

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Probably wouldn't change anything. All right new pitch

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Yeah

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All right

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Every media figure before you get a job in media

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Somebody shows up black bags you shows up says if you say whatever I want you to say

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I'll give you five hundred billion dollars, right and then gives it to you. And if you take it, you can't be in media

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You're you're leaning back in your chair

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So right, so Alex is in this situation

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Mm-hmm, if you offered Alex everything that rush Limbaugh had on that day. Mm-hmm. Do you think he takes it? I

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I think not because then you get to talk about how someone black bags to you and

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Sure, sure. Sure. Five five five, but it's perfect for a conspiracy

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You know what this could backfire you make a good point yeah sports points

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I'm gonna go along with you halfway, but maybe not this one. No, okay fair enough. So we're curious obviously

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What did you hear on rush?

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Just that you were listening to rush. Yeah, and so Alex gets into that a bit

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But I heard him say

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That well, it just came out that three weeks ago in Seattle peace activists who want to know about this anti-war movement

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How peaceful they are?

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two peace activists with a crowd

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Beat two troops beat them beat them at a restaurant

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Beat them almost and I've had a lot of you heard this Friday. They were here in Friday show Sunday on KLBJ 590

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So I'm listening to this

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and the end and and they beat them they beat them and

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They broke their jaws and this is what peace activists do and I didn't hear him give a news report

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I didn't hear him give a source wasn't giving any sources

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He'd cover like 10 articles in an hour and maybe give one source

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Wasn't giving a source and I thought this is really weird. He normally does and then just twist it and

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And so I'm listening to this and I go again folks. This isn't about bashing rush one ball

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Okay, it's just this is an example of total deception

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total lies

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And I went wait a minute. I remember a month ago

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The three four weeks ago hearing about that and it was just a brawl at a club and

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Soldiers get in fights all the time

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And I thought this is really really weird

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But I should you know, I'm gonna reserve judgment, but peace activists normally are what Neil Bortz calls them

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They are the bedwetting type

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I mean, you know, the classic liberal is a groveling simmering pencil neck limp-wristed bug-eyed weakling

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Okay, I'm sorry, I just had to say it and it just didn't fit the mo

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the modus operandi

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And he sounded like he was just out of his gourd on I mean really you could tell it's like when somebody calls you up

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On the phone and you're like if you've been drinking or if you want something

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Limbal sounded just nuts. It's just it just seems like a lot like Alex talking about his future self

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Yeah, this is this is scary. Yeah, this is scary

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Don't it's like a rip in space-time

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Don't don't nobody record what we're talking about right now and then play it back in 15 years

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I hope I hope that I hope that there would not be this much overlap

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I don't think we'll have to worry about it. Also. It seems like Alex is a great friend of the anti-war movement

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Yeah, I think he definitely is

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Somebody who you'd want if you're out there doing like a protest against the Iraq War

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It seems like the kind of guy who really respects what you do and and who you are

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Yeah, my main problem with pacifists is they won't fucking beat the shit out of these guys

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Am I right bunch of losers a bunch of soft. All right fair enough

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Yeah, I wonder I want like he has like this

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okay, I hate the neo cons and the people who are hawks for the war, but I also think that the

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People who are protesting the war soft and weak sure. What do you want?

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Boy I guess a

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a

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Cabin give him a cabin

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Give him a cabin somewhere far away from humanity that that would be good for for him and me

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Yeah, right. That'd be the best for all of us. Let's all just get a cabin

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Let's all just get a cabin. So rush is talking about this story

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Yeah, where you have these soldiers that were beaten up right and at a bar fight

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I guess well, this is this is what Alex has right? This was a bar fight. Yes rush

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Apparently is saying that these were anti-war anti-war activists on I guess war. Yeah

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Yeah beat up some troops

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Yeah, and here's Alex talking a little bit more about the the scenario and the situation that actually unfolded

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Gotcha, so I get home last night

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and I sit down and I go watch the video and I go read the articles and

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these

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Were believed to be two gang member types with some other gang members at a predominantly black

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gang banger bar and a black soldier and a white soldier go in there and some people hit on their girlfriends and

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Pat on them and stuff and folks. That's what goes on these hip-hop bars black white doesn't matter

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I mean, it's a bunch of gyrating bumping

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You know, basically we're being reduced to the level of of animals here in America

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Alex has a bit of that old person racism in 2005 very clearly. Did I just get footloosed?

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That would just happen. He doesn't like modern dancing

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Gyrations, right

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Alex brings in a bit of racism to the story a bit of bit of racist feeling sure

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Sure, but his version of it is more or less. There's a bar fight. Yes, these people got to do a bar fight, right?

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now for me, I think this is difficult because

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Alex has one version and then he's reporting what rush limbaugh's version of it is, right?

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I don't see any sources being thrown around here

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I haven't heard any from either now get this what Alex plays the audio of a news report about this

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Oh my Alex provides a source happening and we have the audio from it

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So let's just go ahead and play it. Here it is

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It is a brutal attack three men at least two of them a rock war veterans

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viciously beaten while dozens of others stood by and watched

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This attack happened about 2 30 in the morning on Sunday, July 31st

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Police tell us the soldiers were waiting in line here outside Larry's nightclub on First Avenue South

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One of the alleged assailants groped one soldier's wife

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Words were exchanged and the soldiers turned to leave one of the individuals involved in the disagreement

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Possibly through a hot dog and one of the suspects apparently it hit the suspect in the face with a hot dog

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So there's a hot dog in play

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So I think that Alex has firmly established that the story he's talking about has to do with some Iraq war veterans being attacked

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In the context of a bar fight. I'm comfortable saying that he has done his work on that front

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However, there's still another aspect of this which is the fact that he's not played a clip of rush limbaugh's claims

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He's only repeated his own characterization of them fair. I'm willing to believe that rush did lie about this incident in order to smear

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Anti-war activists, but Alex hasn't shown anything that demonstrates this

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There's almost like a reliance on knowing your audience may have probably listened to rush

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Which is that is interesting which is probably is some sort of a comfort that if you're listening to me

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You probably listen to rush to yeah, you've probably heard what it is

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Well, I mean if Alex was listening that Alex wasn't on the air at the time, right?

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So there's a good chance that you weren't listening to whatever info wars was playing. Alex was on reruns exactly

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So you were probably listening if you're not listening to Alex you're listening to rush. It's kind of his idea probably

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Yeah took a little bit of digging but I was able to find a story on media matters about this and Alex's version is

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Kind of fair. All right rush reads from a KOMU Seattle story about this attack and talks about how it was a bar fight

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And all that but he starts the story saying quote for those of you who still have an open mind about the anti-war

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Left in this country. This story is out of Seattle and then he closes his remark saying quote

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So once again the anti-war left claiming to be a peace movement illustrates itself to be anything

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But I'm gonna go ahead and give Alex the points on this one

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Yeah

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He's accurately pointed out that rush has fabricated an anti-war motive for the attack and though Alex isn't totally accurate and conveying

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What rush said his point is fair

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The irony is that what rush is doing is exactly what Alex the show thrives on in the present day

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Yeah a huge chunk of his content is just adding layers and imagined motives onto stories that don't exist in the real world and seeing

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Alex be able to call this out in the past

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Really does indicate to me how much of his behavior in the present is a willful strategy. Yeah

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Yeah, I don't imagine he doesn't understand this if he's able to call it out. So I would say

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Finally, yes, I don't think it's great, but it's fine

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It kind of fucks me up a little it fucks me up because it is like maybe that is what happened

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Maybe you did just get black bagged. Maybe we're about to get black bagged

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Maybe we maybe we do a little bit better for a little bit longer. Somebody shows up and we get 500 million

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How it works, you know, I haven't already turned down the black bag with that. How do you know?

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Well, I mean, I assume you would tell me you don't know. Yeah, I think I do

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I think we have a pretty strong partnership. Hmm. I would trust that. Hmm. If you're lying to me now

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I trust you to not be it doesn't matter

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It could go either way. I I don't know. I mean, I think I

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Imagine that you know, you don't need an external force with a black bag and this offer, you know

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Well, you're gonna make there's a lot of oracle

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That's what I'm saying shift in priority or whatever that that it does it does appear may have

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May have come along at some point, right? I mean just that that like it's so clear, you know

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Being the person who plays clips and criticizes rush limbaugh is far less lucrative than being rush limbaugh

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Like it's just it is just there right now, especially if you can be an even weirder version

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Yeah, then you've got that then you got it made. So Alex has been to these hip-hop bars. I

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Don't

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Well, yes, he explains it he explains how he has okay, okay

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So we got people with gold teeth and cornrows and gang member outfits, okay?

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Who

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Beat up whoever they want do whatever they want. I mean, that's the regular activity of gang member types

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And some of these troops don't like it that that their girlfriends were getting

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I mean if you don't want that to happen, don't go to one of those bars

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Okay, I

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Have been in them and

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Now I'll have to explain myself my cousin who now lives up in Chicago as a DJ

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Buckley

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Couple times he was making the music track videos

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Which is she goes to the credits and I would have the enjoyment of going into one of these

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establishments and I assure you after that I would have him bring me the

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The CD outside during a song just because I don't wish to be around it

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But I have been in these

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establishments and and let me just tell you it is it is

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amazing

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Sodom and Gomorrah is the way to describe it and

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This is how our children are now being taught to behave but again all that is a side issue

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How does this and I know a lot of you heard this last Friday? I heard it rebroadcast yesterday. How does this transfer?

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Into

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This is very important

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How does this transfer into peace activists beating up troops? I mean, it's just the most good question

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Why do they let limbaugh do what he does? I mean they got he's gone out of his mind on the air

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I mean, he's just gone completely and folks. It was hours of it three hours of lying. Oh three hours

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Three hours like your show somebody did he did he bring somebody in to host the fourth? Jesus Christ, man

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It's just it's it's a it's it's a mirror. It's a haunting mirror. Yeah. No, it's it's really concerning me

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It's starting to bother me a lot. How do they let him on?

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They let you be on it. I even I feel like there are things that he said that you could go back and like in this clip

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You could go back to us five years ago and hear me say something almost identical to like how did they let him be on?

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Air sure like straight up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't like that. No, I don't like that at all. Dan's not good

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Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah

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Now we have to go fight to the death because only one of us can survive this I I mean look that I wanted to

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Cover hurricane Katrina. Yeah, this is not what I expected and now instead alex and I have to fight on top of a volcano

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Ready to go. Well one natural disaster or the other that is the case. So, uh, this was

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Jarring. Yeah a bit of bit of segment for alex to really really go at limbaugh in a way that is a damning

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Indictment of his future. Yeah, but he does he does end up taking some calls

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Uh, and so we get we get some calls. Here's uh, here's one weirdo. All right, uh, let's go to jason and maryland

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Jason go ahead. Hi. Thanks alex. Um, I was wondering if you were uh,

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Actually, I just want your take on something. Uh, colin powell. I read was supposed to be signing. Um,

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a un charter for a palestinian state with

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Huge israeli concessions on uh, 9 11

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Uh, 2001 and I was wondering what your take was on the timing of that. It was supposed to be at 10 a.m

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And uh, it was thwarted by the attack, obviously

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I was not familiar with uh, the specific thing. I mean, I know that they were having meetings at that time, but

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Uh, and I know we've got the israeli pull out of some areas going on right now, which is a brutal scene

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Right now we're in the middle of the night

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Some areas going on right now, which is a brutal scene, right?

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But I wasn't specifically aware of that day that hour. Yes at 10 a.m

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was when the paper was to be signed by colin powell and then um

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For obvious reasons it didn't happen and obvious reasons. Yeah, so what that's colors talking about isn't true

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Yeah, I can't it can't possibly be true

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Colin powell was in lima peru on september 11th where he was part of the special general assembly of the organization of american states

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They were set to sign the inter-american democratic charter

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Which was meant to defend democratic governance in the north and south american states

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Has zero to do with israel or the creation of a palestinian state

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This caller is repeating this to alex because it's meant to be evidence that israel did 9 11. I mean, that's basically the idea, right?

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Yes, that is the whole entire

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Reason this is being put forth

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Um, it's it's difficult to get a concrete sense from alex's comments of a lot of his position at this point

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Yeah, but obviously he does think there was some israeli involvement. Sure. Uh, massad

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kind of shit in

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Awareness of 9 11 or something. It's it's it's very difficult to get the

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Full picture. We'll see if more context clues come up in 2005. Yeah, i'll i'll just say it doesn't feel like a

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He's saying that the bath party did it at the very least. No, they're off the hook. Yeah. Yeah, so they've I mean

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I mean leo zagami is still not taking responsibility for the attack yet. I don't remember the time stamp of that

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Confession video. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it's possible that this caller doesn't know that it was actually leo who did it, right?

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It had nothing to do with that. I don't think that alex and leo zagami are friends at this point

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And alex hates dancing and leo is out there

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Probably dancing right now. Yeah, yeah doing a discotheque in rome doing a gyration if you will the great leo young

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Young

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So, um, we do get a little update on the fact that there's a hurricane

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And this is there's very little conversation about it as a whole good news on the hurricane. It did not hit

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a direct hit of new orleans louisiana

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Its main body can be sure about 100 miles east of there still cause a lot of flooding and some serious problems

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No deaths as of yet. Thank god

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Sometimes we have floods here in texas

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and 35 people die in one night, so

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Uh, very very serious, but not in this case so far

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Really dodge the bullet there. So I do think that the tone will entirely change. Um

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Pretty quickly. Yeah, uh, but at this point this is the perspective that you probably have every reason to have and it's very

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It's very ominous. This is I think

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like if you if you pull back

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I think you could misconstrue this as like a

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Accidental tape that's fallen in from a better universe. You know what i'm saying?

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Like in this case alex criticizing rush limbaugh for being a piece of shit

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In this case hurricane katrina has not absolutely wrecked, you know

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new orleans like like it is so much like the man in the high castle if we if this was uh,

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If this had snuck through a dimensional portal i'm jumping into that portal as soon as I can find it

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Unfortunately, it is not it is all just context and uh just fucked up

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Oh, man, so we get another caller. Yeah, and it's this fella. He's got some poof. This guy's interesting

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Because this is what made me call when you were covering george washington. I i'm right in that area

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He's been up and down my uh backyard

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Um, this is uh, I live in the history most historical place of the country where it all started

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And we covered all the great stuff with washington. Are you familiar with that?

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Great stuff with washington. Are you familiar with who they called the mysterious professor?

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That appeared in the balcony in that in when they were trying to um

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Determine on the draft of the declaration of independence whether or not that was the final draft

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They were arguing the war was imminently going to break out and in heated debate all of a sudden the man a mysterious figure

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Appears in the balcony and he makes a big oratory and at the end of it

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He says god has decreed um, uh, america to be free hurry up and sign that document

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And they known him as the mysterious professor. Are you familiar with him? Yes, i'm familiar with it. Thanks. What?

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Uh paul comments to what uh, the listener was just saying

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Oh, that's what you were telling me. I'm down here in texas. They're up in minnesota. They were telling me

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paul's uh

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Phone system cut out so we're calling him back. Yeah, paul joseph watson's also riding a shotgun at this point

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Are you familiar with the mysterious professor? Are you absolutely not you don't know about the mysterious professor?

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Did he invent flubber then? No, that's the nutty

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So alex sure wasn't interested in that line of conversation. I agree. Yes

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If I had to guess it's probably because he knows it's bullshit

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But he doesn't like to do things that work against american exceptionalism patriot lower sure those kinds of anything that's like that

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He doesn't want to

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Disrupt or stop you from believing nonsense if it feeds into that right, right, right

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If you saw god appear on a hill and say do whatever I told you to do

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I'm, not gonna get in the way right. We're not gonna debunk that shit

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No problem

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So this caller is basing his story on something that appears in a book called the secret destiny of america written by manly p hall

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I'm, sorry. Yeah hall was a real esoteric weirdo and a lot of his shit is not that credible

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But in his book, he claims that he visited a theosophical colony in ohai california

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Where he was introduced to a secret tome of early american political speeches

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this tome included a tale of the night of july 4th 1776

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When all the greats got together to talk shit about liberty

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It was a who's who roster of course thomas jefferson

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Ben franklin, of course, john adams yelp some unnamed guy. John adams kid. Yep

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So the unnamed guy gives a long very passionate speech that touches on god declaring that america needs to exist

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So people can be free sure

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After he gives his speech quote the unknown speaker fell exhausted into his seat the delegates carried by his enthusiasm rushed forward

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John hancock scarcely had time to pen his bold signature before the quill was grasped by another god. This is forest gump

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It was done the delegates turned to express their gratitude to the unknown speaker for his eloquent words. He was not there

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Who was this strange man who seemed to speak with divine authority whose solemn words gave courage to the doubters and sealed the destiny?

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Of the new nation. Unfortunately, no one knows

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Hall goes on to suggest that the guy was an angel who appeared. Well, yeah

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Yeah, well, I think that was I think we're pretty clear on that one. Yeah

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This is a lot of fun

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But hall hadn't actually found a secret book of speeches in ohai

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This entire story is just crib from a book called washington and his generals as illustrated in the legends of the revolution

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By a guy named george lippard

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Lippard is a dude who would take ideas of moments in history and then fictionalize them and add fantastic elements to spice them up

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A little bit so they'd sell he's a fun guy. Yeah

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This was a fake story that appeared in lippard's 1847 book which was then repackaged by manly p hall in his 1944 book

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And I guess this caller believes it's a real thing

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That happened. So if I understand correctly, uh, some dude wrote fanfic about the american revolution and here we are sort of

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supernatural, uh

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A paranormal fanfic bella and the fucking werewolf fucked together and now we got america

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Yeah, great work. And so alex is familiar with this

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But doesn't say hey, that's nonsense. Who doesn't know about the mysterious professor

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How can you how can you with a straight face say the mysterious professor? Do you know that's like a as like a

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Just like any any reason any for any reason? How can you say the mysterious professor?

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No one knows who he is in a serious manner. History has forgotten who this person is then

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Then no because he's an angel

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Mysterious professor, huh?

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Yeah, that was delightful, okay next clip not so delightful. Oh, that sounds right

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Alex gets a call from a guy who's uh upset that uh holocaust deniers are getting in trouble

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I was about to say here's why the next call sucks. They hate the jews for some reason

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Yep, six years ago. I saw stuff where a white supremacist

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Uh said that six million jews didn't die now whether 10 million jews died or a million jews died, you know

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Whether I agree with that or not

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People should have a right to say what they want

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But no under german law the fbi arrested him and flew an american citizen to germany where he is still in jail

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Oh, yeah, that's happening right now up here to a guy named ernest sundell who by all means I don't agree with the guy

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But this is like what happened to galileo. Galileo just happened to be right. This guy just happens to be wrong

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But it's the same thing, you know, you charge a person with heresy for disagreeing with what the church has said is, you know

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Sun revolves around the earth. That's the way it goes you disagree with that. We're going to hang you

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And well, I mean hitler was really bad and literally a lot of bad things. The problem is the soviets

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wrote a lot of lies about the nazis and so those have been discredited a lot of exaggerations

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And so then people try to say the whole story isn't true

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When uh, yeah folks hitler was bad news and did kill a bunch of people a lot of them jews

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And so but exactly regardless of whether sundell is wrong or right that guy is now in a german jail cell

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Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, he's going to be extradited there. He's been here like in canada since the 50s

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Um, but well then he moved to kennessee. No, no, he's now in german. Oh, he is now they finally extradited him. Yeah. Yeah. No

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And by the way, sundell stuff is mild folks

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It is mild compared to some of the revisionists

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Yeah, but again, it's illegal to write revisionist history. That's our new freedom. So sundell ernst. Sundl is mild

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Now one thing that I think is really interesting is that alex is right that sundl had been extradited

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Okay, alex is up to date on that story interesting seems to be keeping track of that one

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I was gonna say that's real weird for you to know specifics about that a I mean inconsequential and pointless story

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Um, I don't know if it's inconsequential pointless, but it's very specific

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Hmm, so alex I get that he wants to defend ernst. Sundl on some free speech grounds, but it is absurd to call him mild

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sundl founded semi-stat, uh publishers, which the oshwitz memorial and museum called quote

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A significant focal point in revisionist propaganda

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He wrote books that were not only denying the holocaust

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But he co-authored a book called the hitler we loved and why and he published a slew of other hitler and nazi promoting trash

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He wrote for the newsletter the white power report and is a critically important piece of the spread of neo-nazi ideas

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For all of the shit, he did all the hate he disseminated and all the holocaust denial

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He was ultimately sentenced to five years in jail. It's not you know, he's like, yeah callers saying well

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Hang you you've been to jail for five years

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alex can play whatever games he wants with pretending that he just likes to defend on popular speech

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But it's an entirely different thing for him to pretend that ernst. Sundl is mild. That's crazy

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That's like how he's these days. He says the afd party in germany is a milquetoast conservative party

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He runs cover for extremists like this probably because he has a pretty heavy overlap with them in terms of policy preferences

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Yeah, it's this is mild to him. I mean, it's it's just gonna it's the playbook, right?

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You know like oh january 6th the next day. It's like well, it wasn't that bad. I mean everybody's

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I don't know

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Uh, it's very more about slavery. Ah, it's about states rights. Come on, man. It wasn't that bad

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We're not all slavery supporters. It's about states rights about freedom of speech

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And I also really do think that if you're in a position like alex and you have the kind of audience

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Let's say that you do

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I think that when you make a claim like the soviets exaggerated a bunch of stuff about the nazis

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I think you should be more specific than that because that's the kind of thing that a lot of people could take in a lot

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of different directions

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Well, how about we how about we take it down to its fundamentalist most most basic idea?

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The people who tell you that the jews were massacred by hitler wrong bad people

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The people who tell you that those people are lying to you correct good people and then you give it 10 years

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Or at very least, you know, you have uh, maybe maybe ernes zundel's not a good guy, but he's not that bad

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Sure, you know who's really bad

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Those people who tell you that he's a bad guy now ernes zundel. He's not a great guy

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He's not a great guy. I admit that because i'm a

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Magnanimous human being capable of seeing both sides of the issue that does seem like where this comes from

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That might be might be something i've heard a lot. So, um alex and paul

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uh

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They sort of complain a little bit sure about uh

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Some media like rush and stuff and I think that this is another moment where the time time space is torn. Ouch. Is

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Is this a willful craziness paul?

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Well, it is yeah, I mean on limbaugh's part he does that kind of thing every day

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He came out with absolutely no evidence. No follow-up. No retraction

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Said that the downing street memos were leaked by somebody connected to the cbs rather gate scandal

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Because he remembered the same name being connected to the rather gate scandal. The name was michael smith

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You really remember that name? It's very different

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and then

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With cindy sheehan. I mean take this for example

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Cindy sheehan says when I get up to heaven, he's going to say good job mom talking about her son

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casey sheehan

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So will net daily write an article

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Which says that cindy sheehan channels the dead

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How obvious is that as a quite pathetic smear attempt so that's what you get from

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And by the way folks if we just wanted to get hits we could write headlines like that and get them all day

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But I mean and world net daily is just getting less and less credibility

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Is just getting less and less credibility Let's take a call i'm just so sick of it

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Yeah, me too

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I I feel like the most important sound now is just that wayne's world like

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Like every after every sentence should be

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And then cut to now, you know, uh, like it's incredible all of alex's headlines being rank misinterpretations of things just incredible

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preceded by breaking emergency transmission

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Yup, if we wanted to get all those hits we could by doing the thing we end up doing eventually. Yep. Yep

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I I mean what?

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Is there something there's almost something like?

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raw and and just just like

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Evolutionary about that, you know like well, here's a strategy doing this thing and here's a more successful strategy

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Fucking people over you know, it's almost it's almost so automatic

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So automatic it's almost human

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It's dark dark. Yeah, so, um, alex has some complaints about uh, some other folks. Um,

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Maybe they're petty he calls himself out on that possible. Uh, but he's mad at lance armstrong

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I don't know. What's uh, I liked the early thousands. Look, this is totally petty, but i'm gonna talk about it

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I told you folks about lance armstrong

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And why are we criticizing him for some blood doping, you know?

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Type steroid that makes you grow more blood. Basically. He's plumping. Why are we all freaking out about that?

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You know if it's true or not, and obviously it's you know, and they got him

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Listen, why do we care about that? We've got him on nike

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Nike owns slave camps. Nike uses little kids. It's very evil

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I've been boycotting them for 10 years folks. It's not like some new thing. I just started doing because I don't like lance armstrong

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I just the guy radiates evil. I mean, I gotta be honest with you folks, you know, I got a good sense about folks and I just

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I go off hunches

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I go 99 is facts, but I just always had a bad feeling about armstrong now i've been around him

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You know in person he lives here in austin and he just he's he's bad news folks and now he's prancing around with a globalist

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and now he's prancing around with a globalist and bush and

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And i'm it's it's been in the news that people brought up, you know, don't be a nice sponsor and he's like i'll do what I want

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Well, we'll do what we want but any comments about armstrong in a poll

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Well, i've really been following that to be honest

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It's just he's really an aggressive arrogant domineering control freak folks and he's got to be stopped

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I mean, he's getting into politics and we and that's why i'm coming out against him. So, okay

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All right, we got to stop lance armstrong. I mean, okay

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All right. I think that is as close to a mission accomplished as uh, probably there has been yeah

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He was stopped. He was thoroughly stopped. Yep. Yep

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Certainly not in politics. Nope. Nope

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So yeah, there's there's an interesting, um kind of uh complaint that alex has which is

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Complaint that alex has which is I guess he's not mad about him cheating

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He's mad that he takes money from nike, right? But also it seems like through other conversations that he has

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Uh, he only cares because he's getting into politics

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I guess because he's like, oh, I don't like uh, michael jordan or tiger woods and they take nike money

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But they're not anywhere near politics. Sure

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So somehow lance armstrong like I guess he alex thinks that he's gonna run or something lance armstrong is gonna run, huh?

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Uh, so they so

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So he's thinking this after everybody has caught him cheating. Yeah

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Interesting. Interesting. I I would argue that uh lance armstrong stopped lance armstrong far before alex even got a chance. That is true

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Yeah, uh, but uh, it's petty but it is a little also why is

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That moment that's really great where he's calling himself out on the pettiness sure and I enjoy that sure

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And there's another there's an out of context drop that I forgot to play

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But i'm actually gonna play because I think it's another it's in context. I think it's another little moment

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Here's another analogy, you know, i'm the king of these

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Whether they're good or not, I mean I may be the king of bad analogies, but so what so what oh my god

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There's a taking the piss out of yourself a little bit

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That is there that uh, you don't you know, it feels it feels organic. Yeah

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Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't I wouldn't listen to hours of this, but it is far more enjoyable to listen to than anything

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That we we do in the present day. There is there is a sense of like

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This is a show. It's a person doing a show. Yeah, it's a show

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This is a show whatever we listen to now in the present is not a show. No, it is what it is. It's mostly

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Especially in the current time, uh immigrant trashing, uh, incitement and yeah and nonsense

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And nonsense. Yeah, it's propagandist. I mean doomsday preaching. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

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um, and and I think that they're you know, some of that is that I feel like there's a there's a

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I don't I don't know what it is, but those little moments. There's just something in it. Yeah, the

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This is petty but fuck it. I hate lance armstrong

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You know what? I'm gonna go home and then i'm gonna come back to work tomorrow and we're still gonna do a show

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Today is a show. I don't have to you know what? I don't like armstrong and tomorrow i'm not gonna give a shit

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So we have one last clip here and it's another caller and uh, this is a little bit, uh brief I guess okay

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Uh, but it's it's it's an introduction, you know

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It's a we're jumping in to the coverage of hurricane katrina and saying farewell to the mister

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oh, uh, we're also saying about the mysterious professor, but

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This episode is not really

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About katrina at all. Right, right, right. There isn't really much coverage of it outside of the

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sort of

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Reflecting on and mirroring the impression that a bullet was dodged. Yeah

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Yeah, and so I think that the real meat and all that will come in the next episode right because there will be a new

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Reality that alex must adjust to dodge that bullet. Uh, not at all not at all. Not even a little bit. Um,

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So that that's kind of why there's a little bit less, uh of the actual

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of the actual

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Uh topic right in this um, and then this the last call is just completely off the beaten path entirely

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Okay, mark and missouri last caller. Go ahead. Hello alex. Fine. Thanks for all you're doing

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Just wanted to say that it's just 13 days away from 9-1-1

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and uh

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We have planned here a showing of your documentary martial law in springfield, missouri

Unknown Speaker (01:11:36.119)

Oh good on 9-11 and also on 9-29 and uh, where are you? Where are you showing it?

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At the springfield eight theaters in springfield, missouri

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Well, that's good that's good that's good I am from missouri you are and i'm here to tell you that springfield sucks

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Yeah, it's trash city. Yeah, everyone hates it. Yeah, um, oh not everyone but uh everyone that I know

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who I

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Ever ever everyone who didn't uh, it's very right-wing city. Yeah, i'm gonna i'm gonna throw this out at you, buddy

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Uh, i'm not a huge fan of missouri as a whole. I I feel you. Yeah, I think there's a there's saving uh, graces

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I'm sure there's there's fine people. It's uh in springfield

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No, no, there's fine people all over the place. Yeah. Yeah, but uh springfield as a whole has a character of a bit of a

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Uh stodgy right-wing shit now. I heard that clip. Yeah, and I said springfield eight. Holy shit

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Did you work there? No, okay. I worked at forum eight theater. Okay in columbia. Were they your sister theater?

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Yes owned by the same people. Yes. Did you show the movie? No, damn at the time though. Yeah

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This is no longer the case. This theater is now springfield 11 bastards and it's owned by amc. Okay, however

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Uh-huh, and this took a while for me to confirm not because I had to try and figure this out

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Is it jogged a memory? Uh-huh?

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At the time springfield eight was owned by goodrich, which was the theater company that owned forum eight

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I did a couple shifts at springfield eight. No shit

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I don't know the exact timeline when that would have been yeah, but it might have it was before this. Sure. Sure

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Sure, but uh, but it would have been in the ballpark the territory

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I've been to springfield eight. Uh, we're we're going to so I feel like we've had a bunch of those like near miss

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Coincidence moments, you know that like that like, uh, uh, you know

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John Lennon walking by a guitar store when he's at nine years old looking at you know

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Like oh I want that and you go. Ah, that's dramatic irony me working the night that alex's movie showed at springfield eight

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That's forest gum. That's forest gum. That's what i'm saying. Like there's

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There's gotta be so many of those moments that we're just near missing. We're so close to those. I think this is just a

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Entirely bizarre coincidence that this guy, uh who worked at that theater totally called in

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And I happened to work at another theater that was owned by the same company

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In the same state and at the same number of theaters

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Huh? Yep. Yep. Just yep. It is what it is ships passing in the night. So so weird

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Mm-hmm this world man. Yeah, I we gotta find that portal. We gotta find that portal where everybody's fine after katrina

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That's the one I want to live in. I bet everything is so much better there. Yeah

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Oh god, I bet everything's so much better there and everything is so much worse. I'm sure

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Uh the next episode yeah, and i'm sure that uh as this goes along

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Uh, it will not be nearly as fun as the moments like talking about the mysterious professor and and what have you

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You know the i'm sure this is going to be pretty bad and I had geared up for it to be really bad

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Uh jumping in yeah, and it turns out

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No, it's there's not an awareness the media is not um on top of this per se. Yeah

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So so strange

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This is you know, because we're doing this we're listening to alex do this shit and it and concurrently

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You know not at the exact same time, but within the next couple of weeks

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Kanye's on tv saying shit, you know and then like meyers and then cut to now

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Because wayne's world does the thing it's everywhere man, right? Oh, there's no escaping it

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Yeah, we have yay back then saying bush doesn't care about black people and then in the present, uh or you know a year ago

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So, uh, he's on alex's show with a net and yahoo bottle there are there are

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if you saw, you know, like when you stop and think about human history for

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Thousands of years everybody's daily life was basically the same

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For thousands of years your grandfather's daily life was basically the same going around hunting mammoth now

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My daily life isn't even the same as it was five years ago

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Mm-hmm, you know, it's like I don't even get the same daily routine that thousands of years of humans had you want to hunt a mammoth

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I kind of all you had to do was run them off a cliff. I feel like I would be more of a gatherer

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Than a hunter

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I I I I think yeah, I think that might be my speed. I don't think you're really a murderer

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I don't think you have the death or a chaser chasing animals. That's a lot of effort

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Yeah, i'm i'm i'm pretty i'm pretty i don't like I don't like fruit that much but if it came down to it

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you do you do it. I'll chase some shit. I've played sports. Yeah, fuck it. Well good

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We got both our bases covered. Yeah, we we're hunter gatherer right here. Yeah

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so, um

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We have uh, we come to the end of this episode and uh, i'm I am excited in the sense that I think we're going to

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To experience something notable. Yeah, I think that obviously this is a giant piece of u.s

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history the failures, uh of the government to respond appropriately to

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prepare, uh the failures of even

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Normal media, uh in terms of their coverage

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it would be very interesting to see through the prism of alex and especially with it being a period of alex's career where

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He's not the person he is today, but is still himself

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Yeah, so you still have i'm gonna fucking minimize holocaust denier publication people

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I'm going to be a bit racist about my coverage of this bar fight, but there's still those pieces of himself

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but

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He believes he's playing an elevated game where he's critical of rush limbaugh's misrepresentations

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I think the dynamic will create a very bizarre lens to see this through it could be very interesting. Yeah, i'm excited

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sweet

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Well, we'll be back. I'll be honest. I'm just excited to get out of 2004. Yeah, it was it was it was walking through mud

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A little bit. Yeah, and uh, it is nice to be out of that, uh, that patch that swamp we ride

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So, uh, we'll be back with another episode but until then jordan we have a website indeed

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We do it's knowledge right.com. Yep. We are also on blue sky. We are on blue sky. It's knowledge, right?

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Yep, we'll be back. But until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark. I am the mysterious professor

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Sure

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And now here comes the sex robots andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding

Unknown Speaker (01:18:22.159)

Hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you