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Damn, Ed, Jordan, I am sweating!

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I have great respect for knowledgefight.

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Knowledgefight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys,

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saying, we are the bad guys.

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Knowledgefight.

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Dan and Jordan!

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fades.

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Andy and Kansas!

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Andy...

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It's time to pray.

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Andy and Kansas,

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding us.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work!

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Knowledgefight.

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Knowledgefight.com.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody!

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Welcome back to Another Try.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes.

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I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex

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Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan!

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Jordan.

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Quick question for you.

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today, buddy?

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My bright spot today is, I believe it's been over a month since you declared spring had

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sprung.

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Yes, I believe it has been well over a month.

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And it was sweatshirt weather, and it was very exciting because it was in the 60s, high

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60s even.

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Yeah.

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Pretty nice.

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And now it's been cold.

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It's been snowing.

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It snowed the other day.

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It's snowing.

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Probably going to continue, I would imagine.

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Yeah.

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But it's not just schadenfreude and like, haha, you're the groundhog of the podcast.

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This leads me to, I had a can of soup the other day.

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Okay.

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It was like, it's cold out, soup time.

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Sure.

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So I decided to have a soup.

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And I try, I'm a fan, okay fine, look, I don't have, I'm not the most adventurous person

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in the world when it comes to food.

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Okay.

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And I'm not a great cook, so I'll go with a Campbell's chunky soup.

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Naturally.

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I'll go with a chicken noodle.

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It happens.

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Sure.

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People love it.

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Yeah.

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It's been there for a long time for a reason.

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It's simple because it's good.

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Yeah.

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And people like it.

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Totally.

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Fine.

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Yeah.

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I was at the store and I saw they have a new one.

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Oh no.

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Spicy chicken noodle.

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And so I tried it, and it's actually kind of spicy.

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It's pretty good.

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Oh yeah?

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Yep.

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Really?

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So anyway, that's my bright spot.

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Well, it's nice.

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It was not underwhelming.

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I thought it was going to be like a tiny little bit of spice.

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Yeah.

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It was like the Campbell's chunky chicken noodle soup.

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Mm-hmm.

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Been around for a long, long time.

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This is the first time they've tried putting spice in it.

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I think so.

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No spices before.

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Previously, no salt, no pepper.

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This is the first time they were like, what if we put some of that stuff in there that

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I've been hearing about on the TV shows?

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I find a lot of the times when things have spicy counterparts, they're like, they don't

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mean it.

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No.

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They don't have the heart.

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Yeah.

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But this warmed me up on a cold March Chicago day.

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So anyway, what's your bright spot?

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My bright spot is yesterday when we're recording this.

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My wife and I celebrated our second anniversary.

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Happy anniversary.

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Second wedding anniversary.

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We were married two years now.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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It's kind of crazy.

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What's the traditional second anniversary gift?

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No idea.

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Pearls?

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No idea.

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What we did, she got me some nice flowers and I took care of five dogs for a week, including

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her.

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So we did good for our anniversary, but we cooked a really nice meal last night together.

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It was awesome.

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Uh-huh.

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What'd you make?

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We made steak and Brussels sprouts and bacon and some crispy shallots on top of those.

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That's the traditional second anniversary meal.

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I mean, it is for us from now on, because that was amazing.

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Okay.

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So I'm looking this up.

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Sure.

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What is it?

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It's cotton.

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Cotton?

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So like sheets.

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Yeah, probably.

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That's the second anniversary.

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Traditionally.

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Right.

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Right, right, right.

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Modern.

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Okay.

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China.

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What did you buy that?

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No.

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A country.

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Oh, you got to buy her a country.

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Uh-huh.

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That was a big one.

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Yeah.

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Could I start small?

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Like, I don't know, Luxembourg, France?

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Yeah, you probably could do that.

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Okay.

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They really upped the ante for the modern, because I think cotton probably is a little

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cheaper than China sets, usually.

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First anniversary traditionally is paper, and then it got upgraded to clocks.

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Sure.

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It got upgraded?

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It went from paper to clocks?

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That's a little weird.

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That is odd.

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Who makes these rules?

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So you're saying that she got you flowers?

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Yes.

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I'm going to pay off on that.

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That's the fourth anniversary.

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Fourth anniversary is flowers.

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Fourth anniversary is flowers?

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Jesus Christ.

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Yeah.

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So you guys are all over the place.

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There's so many goddamn rules with this whole shit.

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It is.

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It's an institution that's based on rules, and that's the only reason society stays cohesive.

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Can't I just own a woman?

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Isn't that what marriage has always been about?

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That's the traditional sixth anniversary gift.

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Personal ownership.

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Oh, Britain.

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Jordan, today we have an episode to go over, and we're going to be talking about the 22nd,

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which is Friday's episode.

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A lot of stuff happened, a lot of breaking news, actually some news breaks while Alex

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is on air.

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In the middle of the show is when the attack on Moscow concert happens, so we get to see

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that unfold in kind of real time on Alex's show.

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So we'll get down to business on this and all of the ins and outs of that.

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But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.

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Ooh, that's a great idea.

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So first, happy birthday, Noor and Lulu.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next, Hey Heather, check this out.

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Zobrombie, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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I heard Dragula the other day.

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That sounds fucking dumb.

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Anyway, cheers from Portugal.

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Ciao.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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And Mackenzie, enemies forever.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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We have technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

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So thank you so much to Abby, get your cat Tyler to stop eating fucking plastic.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I don't like to hype things, but people are designed to hype.

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I am going to paint once a week on air and I'm going to let callers call in.

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We'll also take emails and request what you want to see me paint one, two, three, Matt

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Damon.

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Matt Damon.

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There you go.

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So party time.

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I'm going to get in your guts.

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And the Nazis, in my view, were thugs that shook people down to a lot of really bad things.

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But they did good things too.

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We're going to stop dissing the Nazis all the time.

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Okay.

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I'm thinking about doing some shows too, where I run the whole thing myself, just hit record

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and sit in the dark with just a few candles and candlelight and talk about the nature

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of the world universe.

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I mean, you know, a big old juicy ribeye folks is as good as sex with your wife.

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I mean, let's just get down to reality here.

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I'm going to go donkey Kong, King Kong crazy in about 45 days.

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America sucks.

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We're all racist.

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It's over.

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It doesn't mean I want to go live, say, in some places in Asia where you get off the

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plane over there, folks, they karate chop you.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you very much.

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So Alex starts off the show here on Friday and looming in the background is that prior

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to this, he had posted, there was a video that had come out of drones killing four civilians

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in Gaza.

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And Alex had posted the video of this saying Israel has lost the high ground.

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And people had really responded to this.

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It was all over social media.

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People were, um, you know, saying, congratulations, you've been outflanked by Alex Jones.

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Sure.

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These kinds of things.

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So there was a, there was a very large groundswell of attention that Alex was getting from this,

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uh, as he comes into studio on Friday, it is, it is always nice when you see stuff being

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used as a prop, you know, stuff like this to be used as a prop by social media people

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to kind of argue with each other.

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That's that's just good stuff.

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So Alex has this, um, going on and he starts the show by, uh, discussing, uh, his post

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on social media.

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Right.

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We have Israel pushing in the last few months since October, everyone into Southern Gaza

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and then indiscriminately bombing men, women, and children.

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This is destroying Israel's image forever in the worldview.

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Why are they doing it?

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Why did Israel stand down?

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I'm going to be laying all of this out just because I don't hate Israel does not mean

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I support what Israel is doing.

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Just like I love America, but I didn't support much of what we did in 2003 in Iraq and other

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areas.

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It's just unbelievable.

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And I put out footage that they admits real, that was leaked from the Israeli defense ministry

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because some of their people are upset of what's clearly teenage kids.

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They look kind of autistic wandering around in the middle of the road in Southern Gaza

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and they get killed by drones and it's right out of something from terminator Skynet.

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We have the up close, very graphic footage of this.

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This is footage you're seeing from far away.

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And immediately I got hit by hundreds of thousands of comments, literally saying it went viral,

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millions and tens of millions of years, like 6 million views on my, my X account, but it

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got picked up everywhere.

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This morning.

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It was 40 million views and different versions of what I said.

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People put out and it was, Oh, these are Hamas.

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You're covering up for Hamas now.

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No Hamas has tunnels under the ground.

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They don't walk down the middle of the street.

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So it's simply insane and it's wrong.

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And I'm going to read you the definition of genocide.

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This is genocide.

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And I've got hours if you'd like, it was really television saying we're going to genocide

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them all.

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Netanyahu quoting out of the Bible, uh, the, the, the verses where you're meant to go kill

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all your enemies.

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Now you go, well, in world war II, we carpet bombed civilians.

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There wasn't an up close video of it happening.

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So I'm a little troubled by that line of thinking that Alex seems to have that somehow atrocities

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a they're committed.

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They only count if there's up close video of it.

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Yeah, no, but I mean, nobody knew until later.

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Except people did.

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No.

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I mean, I don't understand how that's okay.

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It's not, it's not okay.

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It's not.

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Um, but it is a strange place for his brain to go.

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Yeah.

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It's w it's weird to think it.

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That's weird.

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Yeah.

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But you know, maybe we all, we all think weird things from time to time.

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Sure.

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He has to speak extemporaneously for a long time.

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Incredibly weird to say it, to say it is crazy.

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So in the last few days, people have responded quite a bit to a post that Alex made on Twitter

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where he called Israel's actions genocide and said that it needs to stop.

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And the responses to this have been very interesting.

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On the most basic level, Alex is making a point that a lot of people agree with and

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it's a view that people, a lot of people across the political aisle from Alex gravitate towards.

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It's good and understandable to recognize that Alex is opposed to the Israeli government's

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actions, but it's important to not pretend that he actually has a good position on this.

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If you think that Alex gives a shit about the people in Gaza, you are wrong.

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Alex believes that Israel stood down and allowed the October 7th attack to happen so that they

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would have a pretext to carry out this war, which is actually part of a globalist plot

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in order to send a bunch of Islamic immigrants into the United States who would be Hamas

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Hezbollah sleeper cells for the globalists to use against the American public.

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Alex's feelings about Gaza cannot be disentangled from his anti-immigrant positions.

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He doesn't talk about this issue a ton and when he does, it pretty much always leads

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back to a position that boils down to, sure, I don't like what Israel's doing, but I don't

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want them here.

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It's a bedrock of this issue for him is this feeling of I don't want them here.

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I see a lot of people using Alex's tweet as a means of criticizing folks on the left for

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having bad takes on Gaza, and I understand that impulse fully.

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In most circles, the name Alex Jones is basically code for a person who's an asshole and wrong

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about everything.

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So it's a dunk on other folks to essentially say you're more wrong than the asshole who's

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wrong about everything.

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But I would caution people that it might not be worth it to use Alex in that way.

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It plays into his hand quite a bit.

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Yeah, I mean, we're just never going to get there, right?

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It's like, put him in a dome.

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I'm telling you, domes.

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We can enjoy, we can visit him, but you can't have him out and about.

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Do you suggest that it would be good to have him have a residency at the dome?

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I don't know.

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I mean, I would suggest that if we lock the doors from the outside, he's definitely going

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to.

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Yeah.

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He'll put on a show.

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So yeah, I think that people obviously are responding to this in a way that is probably

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not taking into account his full position.

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And that's kind of intentional, I think, on Alex's part.

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And another thing that you need to really recognize is, if you look at that tweet, there's

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no way Alex wrote it.

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Not because he wouldn't say something like that, but because their syntax...

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It's spelled correctly.

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Right?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's not his voice at all.

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Yeah.

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And I think, give him too much credit, even when you use him as a cudgel.

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Yeah, because...

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And here's the fucking nail in that coffin.

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There's no end to the Russia shit.

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There's no end to the apologia for, oh, no, no, no, Russia's actually right.

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There's no atrocity that Putin could commit that would kick him off Team Russia.

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So this is not even about what Israel is doing.

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This is about what's okay for Alex to say out loud.

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Really.

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Yeah.

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It's about where we are in a conversation on social media.

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Yeah.

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So he gets off this topic, although he will come back to it, because there's some other

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headlines that I thought he was going to actually spend more time on, and it turns out they

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are just things he randomly saw in his stack.

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Massive news.

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Global fertility crisis threatens 97% of world population.

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Top scientists warn world population to fall for first time since the Black Death 600 years

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ago.

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So these are two headlines about the same research.

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One of the headlines is from Sputnik and the other's from The Telegraph, but it all traces

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back to a paper published in The Lancet titled, quote, Global fertility in 204 countries and

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territories 1950 to 2021 with forecasts to 2100, a comprehensive demographic analysis

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for the global burden of disease study 2021.

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And Alex says that this will affect 97% of the population.

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That's a reflection that the research found that 97% of the countries they modeled will

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have fertility rates under 2.1, the traditionally accepted replacement rate by 2100.

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The researchers used a complex model that includes varying scenarios like meeting the

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global contraceptive need and the implementation of pro-natal policies.

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And according to their projections, even doing everything you can to encourage births isn't

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going to fully turn these numbers around.

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You can do some stuff to help, but that's probably not going to, not going to work.

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Under their assessment, it's not the end of the world or anything, but governments are

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encouraged to consider the implications for policy and do things like rethink our relationship

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with immigration and implement pro-natal policies like offering parental leave and tax incentives.

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Alex doesn't like that stuff.

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So, you know, it's just, this is just a doom headline, 97% of the world's fucked.

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If you, so their paper is kind of like this, like if you make it so it's not the single

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worst financial decision of your life to have a child, then people will be more likely to

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have a child.

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It will make, according to their modeling, it'll make people more likely to, but may

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not stop most countries from dropping below 2.1.

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Right, right, right.

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Because I mean, boy, it's really that whole maintaining control over women thing.

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You just can't do it these days.

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That's one of the big variables that they, they explored was the educational attainment

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for women and the impact that that has.

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Yeah.

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You can't hit them in the head and keep them in your cave anymore.

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That's what, that's going to mess with the global population.

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So the, this I thought was going to be a big thing because it's one of his big headlines.

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And then he had another one that I thought was going to be big.

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And so here's that.

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Huge thing happened yesterday.

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We barely even mentioned it.

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We should have covered it more and more developments to say Taiwan now admits U.S. troops in Taiwan.

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That's a major red line for China and their dictator, Xi Jinping.

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So I thought there'd be more conversation about this considering the scale of this headline.

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Yeah, this is a big one.

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So there aren't U.S. troops in Taiwan in the sense that they're going there to fight or

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anything like that.

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Right, right, right.

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There are U.S. troops in Taiwan training Taiwanese military.

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There was a story about this recently because Taiwan's defense minister, Chu Kuo-Kung,

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acknowledged their presence when taking questions from the press.

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But this isn't news.

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The Wall Street Journal reported on this as far back as 2021.

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And even previous to that, Taiwanese special forces would come here for training.

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They generally don't make a big deal out of this in order not to piss China off too much.

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But it's not like all parties aren't aware of this.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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This isn't the crossing of the red line like I was saying.

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I mean, I'm just, you know, things are getting tighter after that Hong Kong, that Hong Kong

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law where it's like now we, oh boy, you don't want to live in Hong Kong now.

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You know, after that one, Taiwan is very, very much on edge.

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I would imagine so, yeah.

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Yeah.

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And that's, you know, why wouldn't you have American people come and train?

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I would want, yeah, I would want that.

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I don't know.

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So I sincerely thought like, okay, these are the top stories of the day.

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But it turns out it's not really.

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He mostly is going to end up wanting to talk about the Israel Gaza situation vis-a-vis

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his tweet.

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Yeah, I was going to say it's because it's about him.

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Yes.

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And then his master plan is to go on Twitter, go on Spaces and have people comment on his

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tweet and the world situation.

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I think kind of trying to get a sense of where the audience is at on this and how to play

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the ball.

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But also Alex gets lost in thought thinking about his earliest memories.

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Some of my earliest memories in East Texas and in Central Texas were sitting around the

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breakfast table with my grandfathers and my father and my uncles hearing about the coming

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of the one world government and the mega computers that would control our every action and the

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beast computer in Brussels, Belgium and the plan to destroy the family and how the mega

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banks control the communist movement worldwide.

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And my mother's father talking about space stations and ICBMs and army combat robots

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because he worked on those secretly.

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And so it was put into my DNA 45 years ago, 46, 47, I remember being 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

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years old and both sides of my family were not talking about the Dallas Cowboys even

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though they watch Dallas Cowboys and Tom Landry would come over to the house sometimes and

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visit my mom's dad.

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They were best friends and roommates at UT on the UT football team.

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But we weren't talking about Tom Landry.

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When Tom Landry came over, it was for prayer meetings and my grandfather would go back

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in his office for up to two hours.

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They were in love.

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Clyde Hammond, not name dropping, just saying that's where I come from.

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It's a bit of name dropping.

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That has been a name dropping.

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Also, I don't know, your earliest memories were your family yelling a bunch of John Birch

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Society bullshit around, that's what your earliest memories were.

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And you know what, here's the thing I keep thinking about, I know from watching Alex's

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show so much how often he's tricked by fake experts.

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How all of these people with ridiculous credentials that they are just making up wander through

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his door and he presents them as people who have worked on space stations.

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Top scientists.

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Yes.

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Top scientists.

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I can't imagine he doesn't have a similar relationship with family members.

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I mean, okay, so if you're going to tell me that Alex's earliest memories include his

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mom's dad telling him about applied robotics and how much he's worked on that, that means

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that he was working on robotics somewhere between 1950 and 1980, correct?

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That would have to be like mom and dad.

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Alex was born in what, 74?

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Something like that.

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So yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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I would like to know exactly what robots he was working on from 1950 to 19, was he doing

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the chess robot in the 1912s?

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That was actually a small person under there.

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That was Alex's grandpa.

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It was Alex's grandpa.

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Uh-huh.

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You know who the guy inside the machine was?

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Who?

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Tom Landry.

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God damn it!

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They used to be in that machine for hours at a time.

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That's a lot of praying.

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That's a lot of praying.

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But sometimes there's a lot of prayers that need to be made.

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So who am I to judge?

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Sure, sure, sure.

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But yeah, there is something, though it always is fun, about there's the brag that Alex has

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that is like, we were talking about serious stuff, not the Cowboys.

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And then there's another brag on top of that that is like, we were friends with a coach.

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I mean, the most famous Cowboy coach ever, just saying.

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So we get back to the discussion of the Gaza footage that Alex posted on social media.

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I saw some footage, and Israel admits it's real, admits it came from the defense ministry

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that was leaked.

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Somebody was upset.

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I'm upset too.

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That shows Israel is not some monolithic thing, whether it's a savior or a bad guy.

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It's not monolithic, depending on your perspective, it's still not monolithic.

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Footage of drones killing unarmed civilians walking down the street in southern Gaza,

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a street that's been bulldozed.

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And I put it out, and I got tens of millions of views.

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And I got overwhelming support across the local spectrum.

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But there was a large minority of people saying, oh, you work for Hamas now, and how dare you?

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Because I said, this looks like genocide to me.

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And it fits the definition, the erasure of a people.

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Plus they're going to take and survive, all pissed off and ship them here.

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That's now official.

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So I can't find any confirmation that this was footage that was leaked by someone within

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the defense ministry.

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I'm not saying that's impossible, but I don't know where that information is coming from

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that Alex is putting forth.

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The story was originally reported by Al Jazeera, who said that the video was, quote, retrieved

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from an Israeli drone in Gaza.

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And the subsequent reporting on it was that Israel said that they were, quote, investigating

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the incident.

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I have a strong suspicion that Alex is making up details to the story as he goes along,

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because it fits better for the story he wants to tell.

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Also, in that clip, you kind of get a sense of what I'm talking about.

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His story isn't about him being offended at actions being taken against a people, because

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those actions are wrong.

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He thinks that killing Palestinians is part of a plot to attack the United States through

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immigration, which is where he really is upset about.

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There's a little bit of other stuff about, like, is it going to turn into nuclear war?

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Obviously, he has some concerns on that front.

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But almost always, the road comes back to, this is a plot to bring angry Muslims to the

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United States, and I don't like that.

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Yeah.

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And he always hides the truth in the postscript, you know, like, here's my main threat, I don't

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like the way they're doing it.

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Plus, they're going to bring him over here.

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And it's like, no, that's your real problem.

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You just said it.

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And you keep saying it.

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And plus, as though the plot, hey, just an afterthought, I'm not even thinking about

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this, but plus, my only main problem is that they'll come here.

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And so obviously, this ends up derailing into some conversation about immigration and migrants.

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And recently, there was some video of migrants storming past the Texas National Guard, and

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the razor wire fence, and trying to make it to the border itself, the actual Border Patrol,

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the federal wall, the border, yes.

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And so Alex discusses this in an incredibly dystopian way, and has some suggestions of

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ways that he would like to see this addressed that I don't think he can possibly support.

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This is shocking footage of the illegal aliens, the military's men, many of which are on tape

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saying F you, we're taking over America, we're gonna take your houses, we're gonna rob you,

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MS-13, all these gangs, the Border Patrol opens up the fence, and the people run over

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them, carrying drugs, God knows what.

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But the point is, this is not even a controlled destruction of the border, it is now officially

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gone, and it's beyond a dereliction of duty, it is deliberate treason against this country.

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So we need to declare an invasion, this is an invasion, we've got to get Trump in, we've

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got to have the governors of Texas moving in the right direction, declare emergencies,

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and we have to deport these people.

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And that means if Venezuela won't take them back, and others won't take them back, and

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the feds won't put sections of Venezuela, the governor of Texas just seizes the major

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gas station chains, there's three of them, that are owned by Venezuela.

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It's time to take the gloves off, and they'll start taking their illegal invaders back real

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quick.

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The Texas governor can simply order the state police to set up internal checkpoints by declaring

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emergency, and this is when you do it, it's when you're overrun, not before the crisis

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gets so bad you can't fix it.

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And the governor can turn back any of the trucks or people that get on state roads,

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and can seize them.

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You want war, you got it, you brought us here.

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So I found this shocking video that Alex is talking about, and the migrants in question

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were attempting to tear down the razor wire fences that the National Guard of Texas had

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put up so they could make it to the border wall and turn themselves in and plead for

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asylum.

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Sure, sure.

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They weren't rushing past the National Guard and then just disappearing into the night

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or something, they were trying to rush past to actually get to the point where they could

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plead asylum.

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Right, where the laws will protect them as opposed to try to murder them.

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Right, with razor wire.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And I think it's important to remember that Alex is the guy who built his brand on being

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the anti-police state guy.

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Am I to understand that he would be okay with internal checkpoints being erected in Texas

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where he would be stopped and asked to prove he's a citizen?

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It seems to me that maybe all the bluster about how DUI checkpoints were the mark of

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tyranny, they might not have been as rooted in philosophical positions as Alex liked to

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pretend back in the day.

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Because can you imagine him being stopped at a checkpoint and them being like, show

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us your papers, and him being like, oh, you're just trying to catch migrants, I guess this

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is okay.

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What?

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Isn't that what they, isn't that one of all those videos that we watched where, oh, my

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fourth amendment rights are being taken around and I will not lower this window down any

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further than the two inches necessary, right?

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These people would all be like, oh, yes, I'll give you my papers, I love carrying them around

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because that means that as long as I'm carrying them around, people are getting hurt somewhere

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else.

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Yeah, I think so.

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They would love that shit.

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No, I think so.

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I think that there's a-

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God, that sucks.

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There is a feeling that Alex has of immunity from the consequences and the negative effects

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of this.

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And so the philosophical opposition to him being asked to prove he's a citizen kind of

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erodes a little bit.

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I mean, the good thing though for him though is that if you look at it historically, anytime

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you have these kinds of hierarchical, incredibly violent situations where they come down on

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you heavily, it's never corrupted and then used against people that it wasn't intended

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to be used for, especially not the people who came up with the idea in the first place.

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That's not something that Alex has talked about incessantly.

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No, no, no.

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So there is a TV show that has come out called Three Body Problem.

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I saw it.

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You did?

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Yeah, it's pretty good.

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How'd you like it?

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It was pretty good.

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Yeah?

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Yeah.

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All right.

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I haven't seen it.

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I understand it's sci-fi.

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It is sci-fi.

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It's very sci-fi.

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I haven't seen it.

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Sure.

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And how is this going to go wrong?

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Well, because apparently the first episode, and since you've seen it, I'm actually pretty

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grateful because I didn't watch it, but apparently in the first episode there's a bit of a struggle

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session according to Alex.

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There's a denunciation of somebody in the cultural revolution setting.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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They don't like it.

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Yeah.

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They're anti-cultural revolution.

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Do you mean the show?

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Yes.

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Right.

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So this scene is presented as a bad thing.

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It is a bad thing.

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This is the show.

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Yeah.

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Where there's somebody who's like a traitor to the party.

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Right.

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And he gets hurt real bad.

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Right.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So they're pretty excited about this because there's never been, according to Jack Posobick.

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Sure.

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He claims there has never been a depiction of this kind of a communist ceremony that

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has ever-

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Really?

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Yeah.

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And so Alex plays the clip that Jack Posobick had posted.

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Uh-huh.

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And it's very long.

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Yeah.

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I think it's an extended clip of this.

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I feel like he thinks it's real.

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And so he talks over it.

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Here's that.

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Sure.

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They're recreating the French Revolution.

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And then if you said you were guilty, they still killed you.

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They put you in forced labor camp.

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A bunch of dumb, young teenagers being wound up in the state, and now they kill him.

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Yay.

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Burn down the buildings.

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And Kamala Harris bails this out, and then years later they give, per city, $20 to $50

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million to Black Lives Matter for the good job they did, getting them ready for when

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Trump wins to burn the country down again, and that's the whole plan.

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The CIA is running this right now against America on record.

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So there you go.

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And now they say illegal aliens can have guns.

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So that's where the mind goes after a clip from a sci-fi show.

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All right.

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So the Cultural Revolution, right, I don't know if he quite understands the

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idea behind the Cultural Revolution.

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I'm not positive.

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Where do you think there are gaps?

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Well, I don't understand the immigrants with guns.

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Sure.

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I actually don't understand what it is the CIA is doing.

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Is the CIA doing a Cultural Revolution to us?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Does he know what the Cultural Revolution was?

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He saw this clip that Posobick posted.

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See, that's what I was worried about.

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Right.

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It's my understanding, I don't know, I read the Wikipedia page about this.

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About the Cultural Revolution?

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No, this book.

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Apparently there's dehydrating aliens or something?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's in there too.

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Well, I mean, the depiction of the Cultural Revolution is accurate.

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It's fucked up, man.

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Right.

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It's really fucked up.

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But it's an inciting incident of a negative in the context of the story.

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Yes.

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I don't know why Alex, Alex is saying that this is being shown as like, this is what

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the globalists want, the CIA is running this.

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Okay.

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It's very confusing.

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Wait, but I thought Posobick's point is like, this is groundbreaking.

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It's the first time that we're allowed to criticize the Cultural Revolution?

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But I don't think that they would argue that it is criticizing it too much.

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Because it's-

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I'm sorry?

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Well, because all of this is devoid of context.

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Oh, well, yeah.

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Okay.

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So the context of that is instead, but let me kind of put this in a larger context.

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Because of that inciting incidents, the human race goes extinct based on a choice that a

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person made because of how awful people were.

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So essentially that opening is the death of humanity.

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That is the death warrant for everyone that's ever lived.

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So in that sense, that's not really the way that they're talking about.

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No, it's the worst thing that has ever or could ever happen to anyone ever in that show.

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That is that.

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Well, that, I mean, you're not going to get that from the Posobick clip or Alex's coverage

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of it.

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Probably not.

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Probably not.

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Talking sort of about glorifying this a little bit.

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No, no, no.

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Because of that, a person kills everyone or, you know, sentences us all to death by alien

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concoration.

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You're dehydrating aliens?

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A little bit.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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I thought that was a strange-

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Hey, listen.

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Sure.

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I'm not judging you.

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I'm not judging you.

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I'm not judging you.

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So yeah, they're going to burn down the country.

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Sure.

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And now we've got footage coming out of guns being delivered to the migrant centers.

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Yes, you heard me right.

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That's coming up.

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I can't believe they're actually doing it, but they are.

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We're only eight months away.

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They're planning to burn everything down to say it's all white people's fault.

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These Black Lives Matter Antifa and the illegal alien brigades, the military age men, to do

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this.

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This is actually the end of the country we're staring down the barrel of right now.

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All run by the CIA, all run by the FBI, all run by our government.

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So here we are.

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What are we going to do about it?

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We can stop this, folks.

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We need the governors to face it, come out at press conferences.

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We need to recognize there's a plan to do it.

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And then by exposing what they're planning in November, they'll have to back down.

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But you have to admit what you're about to be hit by to stop it.

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Stay with us.

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Point of order, Alex does not play guns being delivered to migrant centers.

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Oh, he doesn't?

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That promise is unfulfilled.

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But yeah, I find that this is so unsatisfying.

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They're going to burn down the country, this is the plan.

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You watched this clip from the sci-fi show, this is the plan, this is all what's going

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to go on.

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Sure.

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Now we can stop it by talking.

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We can just talk about it.

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And if we talk about it enough, they'll have to stop.

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Okay.

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Now when you say they're delivering guns to migrant centers, what do you see?

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Do you see like a big, a big like semi-trust?

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You see crates.

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Like, so we got a whole semi, we got somebody with a big 16-wheeler.

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They open up the back.

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This is a migrant center with like, what, 150 people open up the back of this thing.

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They pull out crates upon crates of AR-15s and any number of automatic rifles.

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I see either crates or that scene in the matrix.

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The scene in the matrix.

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Okay, so the whoosh, that thing.

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So what you're saying is you don't see what I instantly see, which is a bunch of dudes

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with kind of bad red trucks opening the back up with a bunch of loose guns.

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Just being like, hey guys, come on down.

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It's got to be somewhere in between the two.

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Somewhere in between.

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I feel like we're both, we're at different ends of the spectrum.

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I think it's probably more safe to drive with them in crates than just looseys, which is

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what I'm calling guns now.

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Okay.

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You just want to get a single?

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Yeah, I just want to give me a loosey.

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So Alex gets back to the situation with Gaza and he discusses what he believes the plan

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is.

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I want to understand, and I do understand what's really going on and it's very sophisticated

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and it's very evil and it's to create a class of civilizations.

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The globalists were heavily involved in staging 9-11, then they go and destroy the middle

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each of their areas and they bring tens of millions of those people to Europe and to

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the US.

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Then the left indoctrinates them and the universities indoctrinate them and basically communist

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globalist, anti-western, anti-Christian propaganda.

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So there's a Hegelian dialectical problem reaction solution going on.

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So I'm not for bringing the Palestinians here.

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How is that?

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I don't believe in destroying Israel, but I also at the same time don't want the US

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to be involved and I'm sick of foreign aid to any country unless it's purely humanitarian.

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We have our own problems here, our country's collapsing.

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There's no such thing as purely humanitarian issues for Alex if you've ever listened to

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his show.

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There is no situation in the world where you'd be like, yep, that one's good.

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Yeah, we just need the help.

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Right.

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Yeah, that doesn't exist.

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The problem is not that civilians are being killed or that war crimes are taking place.

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It's that he believes that this is being done as part of a plan to bring migrants to the

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United States who will then be brainwashed into being communists and allowed to vote

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for Democrats.

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That's the...

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Yeah, that's the issue here.

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Right.

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In case anybody was confused about what our main issue here is, that is the issue.

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That's his issue.

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That's the biggest problem that we are facing right now.

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That is the issue.

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Just to be clear.

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Mm-hmm.

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Okay, now that we got that.

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Alex animates and is behind Alex's verve.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So he talks about this a little bit, but he mostly talks about things he didn't say about

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Israel's response.

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Sure.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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I'm sitting here just trying to be a reasonable person and call balls and strikes, and I care

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about everybody, but I understand the geopolitical things that are going on.

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And we see October 7th happen, and it's terrible, kidnappings, murder, abuse.

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And I come out and say, I think it's horrible.

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And then within a day or two, prominent Israelis and former generals and others come out and

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say, look, we had attack helicopters five minutes away, and we had thousands of troops

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ten minutes away.

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Why do we stand down for at least seven hours?

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It's more like nine.

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A complete stand down for seven and a half hours or so.

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Israel's tiny.

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She can, you know, drive from Tel Aviv in 45 minutes there, and a lot of former military

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and reservists got in their cars and drove down there and tried to protect people.

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There was a lot of friendly fire and things, it was a big disaster.

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I never said Israel staged the attacks or killed their own people on purpose.

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Most of them got killed by Hamas, but some did get killed.

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You're in a war zone.

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So that's also been falsely attributed that I'm saying Israel staged all this and that

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Hamas isn't real.

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No, that's that's not true.

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Hamas is very real.

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Funded by Hezbollah, which I said would later take credit, which they have.

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But then why did Biden give him six million dollars a month before?

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Why did Biden then defend Iran and say they weren't involved when they were?

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Because there's a lot more calculus going into this.

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You got Jared Kushner saying we're just going to take Gaza and turn it into a nice oceanfront

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property.

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I mean, there's a lot of provocative stuff going on.

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Oh, Jared Kushner's saying some provocative stuff here.

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You mean Donald Trump, the guy who support for president's son in law?

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Yeah.

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The guy that Trump made head of Middle East affairs?

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Right.

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Jared Kushner saying that kind of stuff and you're really worried about it.

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Sure would be bad if his dad got into office.

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Hmm.

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Anyway, there sure is a lot of conversation there about positions Alex claims that he

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never had.

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Never had.

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Never said that.

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Weird that he doesn't mention that on his show on October 7th, half of his time on that

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show was an infomercial for his book featuring the dude who actually wrote it.

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That seems to be he seems to have forgotten that.

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So there's a lot of open questions about the Israeli military response on October 7th.

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But I cannot find definitive evidence that there was an intentional stand down that's

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stronger than pointing to circumstantial evidence and jumping to that conclusion.

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Sure.

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There is definitive evidence that there was foreknowledge of Hamas's plans, but that alone

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is not enough to establish this point.

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Even in the most generous interpretation, Alex's version is off since there wasn't a

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complete stand down.

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Yeah.

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There are many reasons that have been offered for why the response to the attack was delayed,

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but what's important to recognize here is that Alex is saying that it definitely was.

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If he believes that, he's being really casual about that piece of information.

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It seems like it should be a much bigger deal for him.

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Yeah.

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I think, but here's what I think on that is that it makes more sense to blame that than

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to really kind of get into what it is that surveillance does, you know, like there is

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a massive weakness in surveillance, which is that you don't know what you're looking

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for.

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Sure.

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So if you have to look at everything, then you wind up seeing nothing.

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There's that.

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And then there's also the complacency that comes along with surveillance.

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Totally.

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I can see everything.

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There's nothing coming that I can't see.

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And then it turns out 9-11.

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Sure.

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And it happens.

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Yeah.

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There are dynamics that are like that.

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And then there are just logistical dynamics that are things like Hamas took over roads

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and made it almost impossible to travel.

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Yeah.

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It was a holiday.

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There are things like that that Alex just discounts and doesn't, so there's the kind

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of psychological impact of a high-tech surveillance state.

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Sure.

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And then there are logistical, just physical realities.

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And the asymmetric force, of course, means that they're like, oh, there's no way that

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they would actually attack us on their rickety bullshit.

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So Alex expresses that if he gets shit over this, he's going to talk about it a lot more.

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I'm sorry, it's him again.

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Yeah.

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Again.

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If anybody's mad at me.

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Okay.

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I'm going to talk about this more.

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Just to be clear.

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I mean, if I wanted to demonize Israel, it'd be really easy.

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In fact, look out, because if I get attacked for this, people claim I'm making this up,

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I'll just do weeks of shows showing you nothing but war crimes.

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And we are going to show some of those war crimes, ladies and gentlemen.

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My argument for showing some of it but not making it my central issue is the UN shutdown

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of the world for three years in the third world, two years in the West, has killed over

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80 million people from starvation to the UN admits.

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Not the virus, but the lockdowns.

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So we don't hear about the 80 plus million that starved to death, malnutrition, from

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the lockdowns, which were very intense in the third world, Africa, Latin America, Asia.

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We only hear about the 20,000 dead Palestinian civilians, which is terrible.

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Then I ask, why are we being shown this constantly and why is Israel putting it out and making

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these incredible statements while we're not talking about the global mass extermination

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that even rivals what Mao Zedong and the communist Chinese did?

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In fact, the globalists with all this lockdown starvation and cutting off fertilizer and

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food have already killed more people than Mao Zedong did.

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So there's that.

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So I don't, less than what's happened to Palestinians, I'm like, okay, that's important.

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What about all this?

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So there's larger things at play here that people aren't talking about.

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Big picture.

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It's very tribal, very simple to choose the Israeli side or choose the Palestinian side.

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I'm pulling back and saying, day one, why did Israel stand out?

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So you can kind of see here how Alex doesn't really care a lot about this issue, but he

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sees it as a way to further his other talking points.

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Alex is taking the horror of what you see being done to Palestinians and he's using

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it to fuel his fear mongering about immigrants.

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He's taking that horror and telling you that it's a minor thing compared to the supposed

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lock towns that have killed everyone everywhere that is really what's important.

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We see this exact same impulse generally through a ton of Alex's coverage.

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What comes to mind is the way he covered the Dylann Roof mass shooting at the church when

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he was like talking about if he really wanted to kill black people, he should have become

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an abortion doctor.

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That kind of like, ah, this is bad, let me tell you about this.

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He does that all the time and it is a way of minimizing the things that he doesn't want

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to be all that major.

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And justifying not caring.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And I think that there's a moment of real truth at the beginning of that clip where

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Alex says that if he gets attacked for this, he'll cover it a lot more because of course

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he will because if he gets attacked, that means he gets attention.

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Negative attention is still super profitable for him.

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So what he's saying is basically this is a bit of a test to see if he gets flack for this,

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which will then he'll pretend that means he's over the target.

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If no one's too upset about it and doesn't move the needle, he'll just go back to being

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fine ignoring war crimes.

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Yeah.

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In order to farm engagement first, you have to sow the seeds, you know, that kind of thing.

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I want to think, I can't get this thought out of my head.

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If I wanted to demonize Israel, I could do it easily.

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Like that as a sentence means, like if you think about what that means, it means an awful

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lot.

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But most importantly, it means there's a certain self-awareness of like, if I wanted to make

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you hate Israel, I could.

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Yeah.

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I could have the power over you, not like Israel's done something, I'm sure if I wanted

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to tell you all of the horrible things that Israel did, I could.

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Sure.

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If I wanted to tell you all the horrible things Trump did, I could, but I'm hiding those from

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you in order so you believe what I want you to believe.

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That's in that sentence.

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Sure.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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I mean, it is.

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There are awarenesses that are revealed oftentimes whenever he decides it's time to change the

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storyline.

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Yeah.

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Like, I mean, the best example I can think of is the way that he kept becoming aware

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of things that William Barr, former attorney general, did whenever he was like on the outs

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with Trump.

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He'd suddenly become aware of something he did in the past, the connections to Epstein

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and stuff.

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And then when William Barr was doing things that are good, hey, I'm not aware of those

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things anymore.

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He's a sleeper agent.

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It's very conditional, and I think that you're right on, there is, I can change your perception

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about this.

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Yeah.

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If I want to.

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Yeah.

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Like, and in a way that also is like, listen, I don't care what atrocities they commit.

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I'm choosing that they're fine this time.

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You know?

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Well, they're-

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Like, how could you say that?

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I'm choosing that they're bad.

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Right.

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But I'm only going to use that in order to further my other points.

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Right.

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I'm not going to use that in and of itself as a thing to cover.

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Right.

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I'm going to talk to me about a piece of a larger plot that connects to my sort of overarching

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conspiracy.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Which has to do with bringing migrants to kill me.

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Yeah.

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To the United States.

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Yeah.

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Sucks.

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I'm just fascinated that he would, I mean, that's such a weird, it is so weird that we

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allow people to say things that are so fucking pregnant with meaning that, and then we just

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go like, eh, no big deal.

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He's a weird guy.

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Yeah.

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Weird.

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So he talks a little bit more about their being a stand down.

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Sure.

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But then he admits he doesn't really know a lot.

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Great.

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Why did Hamas know the Shin Bet and Mossad safe houses on the border and where to attack?

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Because they were given a blueprint of where to attack and where to strike by somebody.

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And I don't know who I'm simply saying probably the same folks in order to stand down.

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So Israel would then have the pretext to go into a full war footing, invade Gaza, commit

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atrocities, turn the whole world against Israel, and then elicit attacks out of Lebanon, out

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of the West Bank and out of other areas.

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So then the ruling group in Israel that's had a revolution against them with forced

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injections and all the tyranny can stay in power.

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I don't know if it's Netanyahu who ordered to stand down.

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I don't know.

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We know what happened.

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Biden says Netanyahu should stand down.

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A lot of people think the people under Netanyahu want him out.

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So they stood down to demonize Netanyahu.

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I don't know.

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Other people will lie to you and say they do and simplify it because they're pea brains.

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I look at things and do deep research before I make a moral judgment on what is the proper

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thing to do with God watching me.

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What?

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So I am not the Jews enemy.

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I am not the Palestinians enemy.

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And Lord knows, I know that many of these Muslim groups are not cuddly little friends.

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So why are you bringing them here?

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Why is Israel saying they're going to take them here?

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So Israel says these people are so bad they can't even be allowed to exist.

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But you're going to then give them to us?

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No.

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And as I said a few months ago, that was my line of the sand where I began to really say

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Israel's losing the high ground.

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So that's really all you need to know.

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The Israeli military could do anything they want to any number of Palestinians and Alex

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would not care at all if he didn't think that there would be increased refugees possibly

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coming to the United States.

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He doesn't care at all about the people.

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And whenever it looks like he does, it's just a case where you're being fooled by a xenophobia

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being in disguise.

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There's a lot of similarity to how he'll sometimes pretend to care about the treatment of Uyghurs

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in China.

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But then when it really, you know, the rubber meets the road, he'll say, I don't care what

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you do to them.

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Just don't bring them here.

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So feed them because then they'll stay there or kill everybody because then they won't

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come over here.

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That's not important to me one way or the other.

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What's important is they're there.

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Right.

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And Alex's response to like notions of killing everybody there is like, come on, you're not

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going to be able to.

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And that's that's kind of even on its own, a disturbing response.

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Oh, man.

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I how OK, I make a moral judgment on what to do with God watching me.

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What does that mean?

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Does that mean that if God wasn't watching well, but but that's an impossibility.

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God watches all.

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Right.

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So why do you have to feel like you have to add that redundancy if you believe that God

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is watching all just to make a point of it, just to make a point, just to remind everybody

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in case anybody was wondering, omniscient God is still hanging out.

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Boy, man, if you're omniscient and you still need people to remind people of that, you're

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not doing your job well.

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I think it's just Alex trying to add weight could be to what he's saying, trying to give

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a little zhuzh.

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So he knows he has all of these conclusions about everything that is rock solid.

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He doesn't know details about them.

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But the overarching thing is definitely true.

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That doesn't mean he knows that.

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No, but he doesn't know any of the details.

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That's trouble.

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He will tell you that they know everything in their pea brains.

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That is also trouble.

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I agree.

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But not the right kind.

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No.

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So you saw Dune, right?

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I did.

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Yep.

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Great.

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Alex did, too.

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Loved it.

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When I went and saw the new Dune movie that's excellent, way better than the first one,

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which is OK.

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The whole thing's a Muslim uprising.

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It's one movie.

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The whole thing is tailored for a Muslim uprising against the American empire.

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Months before 9-11, they had Pearl Harbor movie come out all perfectly timed.

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This is all meant to create a global Muslim uprising, and out of this worldwide crisis,

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they will then destroy the Muslims and bring in a world government.

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I don't want to be part of that.

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I'm against that.

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I'm against World War III.

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We're going to go to break.

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Please remember, the only way we stay on air is when you support us and spread the word

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and byproducts.

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Yikes.

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That was not good.

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So did you feel that Dune was priming the world for a Muslim uprising?

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I mean, what I do appreciate is that Frank Herbert did specifically and obviously model

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it upon Muslim peoples.

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Whereas a lot of people talking about the movie are like, oh, you know, just any old

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rabble rousers.

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No, it was specific.

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He was choosing people.

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That was an idea.

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So good for Alex for recognizing that.

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Everything else he said was wrong by a margin of incomprehensibility.

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A country mile?

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A country mile would be a great way of describing the distance.

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But yeah, I enjoy this broad declaration of they're setting the stage and everything,

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all of these things that are going on are being done in order to provoke and incite

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and predictably program a Muslim uprising.

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And then they're going to kill the Muslims off and bring in a world government, which

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I don't know why they needed the vaccine for this now.

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There's all kinds of layers to this, the conspiracy that I don't understand where they fit in

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exactly.

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Whatever.

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Leave that aside.

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You got to buy the product.

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You know what?

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Here's the thing, okay?

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Here's the thing about Dune and here's what is frustrating when people talk about Dune,

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whenever there's a lot of people talking about Dune, is that there's people who know the

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later Dune books and the context that that provides to the earlier Dune books makes you

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fucking insane.

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But I think that Alex is supposed to know all of that.

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He's supposed to, but he doesn't.

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He absolutely does not.

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There are things you have to wrestle with and he does not do that.

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He said that he's read Frank Herbert's deeper writings.

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Yes.

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I imagine...

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His letters.

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Listen, if you read Chapter House and Heretics, if you're Alex, all you're thinking is, man,

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there's a lot of good sex stuff in here.

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As opposed to what I was thinking was, man, there's a lot of gross, creepy sex stuff in

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here.

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Take that away.

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So Alex, he does his plug and he goes out to break and he comes back and he's trying

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to show the show's feed on Twitter.

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Naturally.

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And it doesn't work.

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No.

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And so he gets mad.

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And let's go to X right now.

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I want to show people on Real Alex Jones, the headlines I put out because they boil

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it all down for people to understand exactly what is going on and what is unfolding, not

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just here in America, but around the world.

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I'm live right now reporting on what I believe to be clear evidence of genocide being committed

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by Israel and Gaza.

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Please join me live on X where I will be simulcasting the second and third hour of my show today.

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Again, that is the live show feed.

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If you want the video feed, just overhead shot, I'll show people on my phone.

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You go to Real Alex Jones on X.

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If you want the video feed, just overhead shot, please.

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You'll be able to see the live.

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I want to rebroadcast for a while.

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I got to reset here.

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I was totally loaded for bare hair, totally ready to go.

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Not able to do that right now.

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I've got a lot I'm going to break down here, a lot I'm going to get into.

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This is going to be very, very important, very, very informative.

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But I just roll whatever you want.

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Surge to the border.

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All those people are seeking asylum.

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Yes, Alex storms off.

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Sure.

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Storms off the show.

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Because he can't put the tweets up on the screen?

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I think so.

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Oh boy.

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I think that's really what's at issue here.

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That's the whole thing.

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Can't put the tweets up on the screen.

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A little mad at the crew.

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Not getting the overhead shot that he wants.

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This might set records for the shortest time away, because he comes back like a minute

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and a half later.

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Oh, okay.

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It's very fast.

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All right, all right.

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Maybe he just needed to piss.

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And he almost acts like he didn't do it.

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Didn't happen.

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Think he didn't leave.

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Didn't happen.

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I had to go.

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I had to go.

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When you got to go, you got to go.

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Right.

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And look, I understand.

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Most people are volatile creatures, and I think that a lot of times you can have reactions

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to things.

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I think this is one of the reasons most people don't want to do three, four hours of live

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broadcast every day.

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Because you're going to-

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This is reasonable.

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Yeah.

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There's so many moving parts.

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Every machine breaks down.

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Stop doing this.

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Yeah, that would be the smartest move.

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Yeah.

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Anyway.

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It's a testament to the courage of so many people.

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The courage and sacrifice of so many people that cowards like Alex can pretend to be brave

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now, criticizing people.

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It is a... Yeah.

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So we get to another conversation here of the plan, and this is... Again, I'm just

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trying to reinforce that when Alex is talking about this issue, where he's talking about

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the treatment of the Palestinians, it is only a tertiary concern to him.

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He's talking about the border.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Israel's not stupid.

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Why would they be doing something like this?

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Here's a little quote from a Galloway member of the UK Parliament, and this is confirmed,

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this is going on, that they plan to ship the Palestinians to the United States and to Europe.

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Well, meanwhile, the border's wide open for all these Muslims coming in.

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So we're told they're the most deadly people on earth.

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We've got to shoot men, women, and children.

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We've got to bomb everything, but you're going to take them.

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That sounds like Israel, all the people running Israel, using America as a toilet.

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So I'm not anti-Israel.

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I'm neutral on this, but I will also not be attacked by Israel when they destroy a whole

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population or destroy most of it, and then ship the pissed off remains to my country,

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be organized by the left and the universities into this anti-Israel, anti-America thing,

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which Israel wants to be persecuted because that gives their leaders even more power.

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I figured it out.

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You figured it out.

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It's victimology.

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So you figured it out.

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You look confused.

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Holy fuck.

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Yeah.

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I'm not confused.

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That's one of the most disgusting things.

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For somebody who's making moral judgments based on God watching them, I would not want

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God watching me if I said that out loud.

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Yeah.

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I'll tell you that.

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Doesn't sound good.

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If honestly, honestly, if anyone should be grateful that his literal God does not exist,

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it should be Alex.

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I can think of no one who would hate Alex more than the God that Alex professes to believe

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in.

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After the outburst and storming off, I guess they got things figured out, and they're now

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on Twitter, on the spaces, and Chase Geyser is running the board, after the sort of conversation

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that Alex had about Don Lemon and the awareness that Alex has of the being paid, it makes

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it very strange that he's constantly on Twitter spaces as opposed to taking calls, that it's

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migrated a bit over to that.

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It feels-

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Well, you do get money for people-

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Engagement.

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Yeah.

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People get money for engagement.

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You don't get money for just taking calls.

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Right.

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So if people are going to call you and you might get money for it, then take the money.

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Yeah.

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It makes perfect sense.

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It does.

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It's just the sacrifice of old man house phone is the heartbreaker.

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It is.

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Yeah.

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And Louisiana, the gentleman-

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Louisiana's an entrance.

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He's not coming back.

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The gentleman Charles isn't on-

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No, no, no, no, no.

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He's not on spaces.

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So we get a call from a guy.

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I thought this guy sounded real weird.

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Let's hear from Tristan John.

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Tristan, go ahead and unmute yourself and speak, whatever you have to say.

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Hey, Alex and Chase.

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Thanks for having me on.

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I just had one thing to say.

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I feel like America's been doing this for who knows how many years.

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80 years.

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We can go-

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Yeah.

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Go look at Ukraine.

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We'll look at our border crisis like you mentioned earlier, Alex.

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You posted that video, I mean, a bunch of people have posted that viral video.

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What are we going to end up doing?

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We're involved in too many things.

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We're not thinking about our own state right now.

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It's insane for me.

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I'm representing the fourth district Colorado right now and it's just massively, I feel

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like it's over-pressed.

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There's too many different things, angles going on.

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Yes.

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Your eyes got real wide there.

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Do you mean he's in the fourth district or do you mean he is a congressman representing

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the fourth district of Colorado?

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See, that's what you would come away from somebody saying that.

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That's what I would think.

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Right.

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One or the other.

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If you're saying I'm currently representing the... You'd think, well, you're in an elected

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position.

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Or you're there and you're telling us what's going on in there.

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I get that interpretation.

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That's not-

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That's not the one that you're trying to give off.

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No.

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I mean, this guy is not an elected official.

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Okay.

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Thank God.

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I was like, man, I know it's bad, but can we not have people in Congress calling into

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Twitter spaces?

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Yeah.

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The Colorado's fourth district seat in the US House of Representatives is currently vacant

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since Ken Buck stepped down.

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The seat is going to be filled in November, but that primary isn't even until June.

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And the State House of Representatives, this guy's name doesn't match that person either.

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He's not Ben Huck or whatever.

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But that's what he wants.

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I swear, your eyes got so wide when he said that because that's the impression that's

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supposed to be-

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That's what he's doing.

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Yeah.

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He's doing that on purpose.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Very strange.

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Oh, my.

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Most of the calls are not really that interesting.

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Sure.

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There's a lot of-

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I mean, it's Twitter spaces.

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There's a lot of agreement broadly with the... Israel's actions, the government military

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actions against the Palestinian civilians is unacceptable.

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This needs to stop.

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That is generally, and I don't think anybody calls in that I can think of who disagreed,

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honestly.

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Hmm.

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It's a position that Info Wars listeners in this Twitter space fine with.

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Yeah.

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So I don't know what Alex's response to that is going to be because it's not really that

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controversial.

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Yeah.

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There's not fighting that's happening because of it in this Twitter space.

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He's not getting a lot of shit for his position.

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Yeah.

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So if the standard of being above the target is you get a lot of flack, certainly not seeing

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that here.

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I mean, even the government at this point is like, maybe we should do something.

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And we've been paying for the whole thing.

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Right.

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So it's like you are not taking a courageous stand if the financier is finally going, maybe

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we should cut off the flow.

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Yeah.

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So this leads to another call that Alex gets where everything changes.

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All right, let's hear next from a really, a really good cheeseburger.

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Are you still with us?

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Go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you have to say.

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I'm delicious.

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Okay.

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It looks like a really good cheeseburger is just listening.

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Let's hear from truth.

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Go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you have to say.

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What's going on, brother Alex again, it's good to talk to you, brother.

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It's good to talk to you too, Chase.

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How y'all doing?

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We're here live reaching millions of people right now.

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Not to change the subject completely, but did you see where there was an attack in Russia

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just a little while ago, about 10 minutes ago?

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No, we didn't.

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What?

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Another drone attack or what happened?

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Uh, it was at a theater, they're saying there was explosions on, let me tell you exactly

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what it was at.

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It was a, uh, Corkish city hall concert venue is what it was.

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Uh, there was a, uh, attack explosions and everything.

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Heavy gunfire, everything.

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Guys type in attack in Russia.

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No, I did not know about that.

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Tell us what's happening.

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Uh, just a massive explosion they heard, I guess people are, uh, I'm not sure exactly

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the full details cause it just happened, but they're not going to move to terror attacks

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in Russia.

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Again, it is breaking a club and shopping center in Moscow, Russia appears to be the

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target of a terror attack, multiple government and military style of digs recorded shooting

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at people with rivals in the concert hall.

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They're trying to push Russia into direct war.

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Wow.

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Yeah, look at that shopping bowl on fire.

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So immediately upon hearing about this, Alex has his narrative set.

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Uh, the, the amount of information that he has zero regarding this particular thing.

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Well, you heard him get all of that information that he has and the quickness with the quickness

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with which he has created an entire scenario.

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He knows it all.

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It's bullshit.

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Yeah.

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I'm sad to not hear from a really good cheeseburger.

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Yeah.

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I do think that that's the one thing that I like about Twitter spaces is the potential

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for chase and Alex to have to use people's fucking stupid aliases.

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Yeah, the gamer tags and the names are always fun whenever people are forced to say them

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out loud and treat them as a real name.

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Also, this is one of two people who go by truth seeker who end up getting through.

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So that might be a little bit of a, a little too standard of a name.

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Nothing that points you out as somebody who is not one of those sheep who just goes along

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with the crowd, like having the exact same name as everybody else around you.

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Right.

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Yeah, I hate to say that I distrust anybody who calls themselves truth seeker, but, um,

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you're, you're, you're playing from a disadvantage.

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You're starting off on a bad foot when, when, when great writers in like the fucking 1800s

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started calling people shit like truth seeker.

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Even then everybody was like, man, just truck and take her down a notch.

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Call him Terrence.

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Terrence is a great name.

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Not a bad name.

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Yeah.

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So Alex, uh, evolves this, uh, narrative pretty quickly and pretty smoothly.

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Sure.

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We're, we're in the end times.

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Oh my God.

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You brought this up.

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We're showing footage right now, not on the spaces, but on the X feed at Alex Jones channel

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real Alex Jones.

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This is people.

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It looks like in a military garb of the Ukrainians shooting people at a, at a music event.

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Wow.

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Crazy times we're in brother.

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That's all I wanted to point out.

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Um, God bless you all.

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Just keep fighting the fight.

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We're all Ethel warriors and just keep fighting the fight.

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Brother.

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Glad you brought that up.

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Wow.

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Started 10 minutes ago.

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So you can tell that Alex is obviously interested in reporting a story in a particular way and

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they shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

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They're in Ukrainian garb.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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So the one thing I'm really struck by on this episode is how much Alex seems to be invested

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in playing.

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What amounts to Gore footage?

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He plays the video of the drone killing in Gaza multiple times and even zoomed in.

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He plays a long stretch of the shooting videos that were released by WikiLeaks from Iraq.

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He plays them that murder scene from three body problem, sci-fi show.

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And now he's playing the video of this breaking news in Moscow.

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That's grotesque.

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Like it's very excessive for the span of one episode and it's, it's notable.

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I don't know what it means exactly, but Alex is really interested in airing this footage,

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playing these videos.

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Yeah.

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It's very strange.

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A lot of this is like, do you remember how often people were like, Oh, video games are

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going to desensitize you to violence?

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Like there was that stretch of time between, you know, 2004 and 2015 where it was like,

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anytime somebody talked about video games, it was like, Oh, it's going to make the, it's

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going to make the kids psychopaths.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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I think even Alex.

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Yeah.

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I genuinely think it's gone the complete opposite direction.

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The people who play violent video games are not psychopaths, but everybody else fucking

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is.

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Like Alex doing that, just like, Hey, that is desensitizing people to real violence.

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That's real violence.

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Whenever I play a video game, I enter into this false reality, knowing it's not real.

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Right.

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You know, I'm not desensitized to anything.

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I'm going into a false reality.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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No, definitely.

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This is desensitization.

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It is.

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This is what it is.

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It's like frying people with extreme stimulus, which may be the same.

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Like it may, it may sort of nerve ending play in the same, uh, uh, waters, but there is

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also just a, like, it's overriding, uh, your ability to experience and think, uh, in the,

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in the moment you're, you're seeing these horrors and you're seeing this awful shit.

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And then Alex is feeding you be afraid of people at the border, you know, and that's

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the way that all of this emotional energy is intended to be directed.

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Totally grotesque.

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The amount of the amount of atrocity and the lack of giving a fuck about it from Alex is

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kind of what, what is so scary is like, because to me it feels like the reasonable, the reasonable

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response from an info warrior, not an actual reasonable response.

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But if I'm an info warrior listening to this, my response is like, well, I don't care about

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people elsewhere, period.

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I can't, the only thing I do, anytime I care about people outside of the United States,

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I just go, there's murder happening and it feels terrible.

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So I'm only going to care about the murders happening here, you know?

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Well, and, um, whenever I see something happening, how is this about me?

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Yeah.

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You know, that, that is also the impetus and the instinct and it's fucking hell man.

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So Alex, uh, talks about this, uh, footage in, uh, in Moscow and, uh, he has some, has

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some takes.

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Look at that burning shopping mall.

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What the hell, man, this is, they're trying to get Russia to over respond.

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I can you fill the danger?

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Yeah.

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And the thing that comes to comes to mind looking at all this is something Jordan Peterson

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said that I really admire and believe comes to mind all the time is, is do you think it's

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scary what a strong man in leadership will do?

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Just wait until you see what a weak man in leadership will do.

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And this is what the world looks like when somebody like Joe Biden is the president of

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the United States.

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Yeah.

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Let's do this.

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Let's fade up the audio fader and start with the burning building.

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Start with the attack on the concert.

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Start with the other download videos right now.

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Download them right now.

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I'm going to play the audio.

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Oh my God, really wants to play this video.

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And I feel like chase is strange cause he's blaming a terrorist attack in Russia on Biden.

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Yeah.

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Sight unseen, not knowing any of the details, not knowing anything.

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Nope.

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This is Biden.

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This is cause Biden's too weak.

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Yep.

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So ISIS took responsibility for the attack in Moscow, but you don't know that at this

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point and you would never know that listening to Alex because it's NATO and Ukraine that

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did it.

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Somehow Biden's at fault because he's weak.

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If Biden was strong, like Trump, this wouldn't have happened.

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Because when Trump was president, stuff like this did not happen.

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It never did and it never would because everyone knows not to fuck around.

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Right.

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Cause he's strong.

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Right.

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So Alex has a prediction of what's going to happen in response.

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Read me all the articles I hear down on the videos.

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Shopping mall blown up by armed troops.

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It looks like a hundred of them in Moscow.

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Putin might hit forces in Ukraine with tactical nukes or the globalist may do it and say he

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did it.

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They already caught Zelensky firing missiles into Poland.

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Get me Jack Posobek.

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I'll probably take over the fourth hour if he can do it.

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I know Jay Dyer guest host understands him as I take over.

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Call Jack Posobek.

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He's so smart.

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I want his take on this now.

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Get me Posobek, the guy who cried at Comet Ping Pong Pizza.

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Did somebody write a note, pin it to their chest?

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Yeah.

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Call Jack Posobek?

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He found a dead chef with a called Posobek.

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That would be a hell of a name to spell right on your suicide or you're like.

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I know how to spell it and I still don't, I'm not confident.

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But in that moment being able to write down, spell that name correctly and pin it to your

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chest?

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Not a chance.

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That's quality.

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That's quality stuff.

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So yeah, it's fun that Alex's response is that he's going to maybe technically nuke

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Ukraine or maybe the globalists will do it and say that Russia did it.

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Because later Posobek comes on and somebody else and they're all like, they're not going

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to do that.

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No, no.

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That's not going to happen.

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It's a bad idea.

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And they kind of scoff at the idea of suggesting that and then Alex doesn't say it anymore.

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So he gets shamed a little bit.

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It is so easy to bully him.

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So Alex is done talking about the drone in Gaza footage.

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Now it's Moscow, only Moscow.

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Which tells us everything we need to know.

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I am shifting out of the Israel discussion.

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Spaces, speakers can still talk about it.

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I'm not censoring you.

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But holy hell, a Moscow shopping center is on fire, reportedly hundreds of dead, men

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running around in Ukrainian uniforms shooting and murdering people.

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It is absolutely off the chain insane.

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But again, we had Jack Posobek on months ago and weeks ago saying they've hired this terrorism

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expert to head up the Ukrainian military.

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Now they're going to launch terror attacks inside Russia as a pretext to get Russia to

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jump off the chain and escalate the war with NATO.

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And he called it.

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He called it.

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He called it.

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So I think that if I'm somebody who has heard a lot of Alex's content over the years, I

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would take the idea that someone might be in Ukrainian uniform as evidence that it's

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not them.

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Yeah.

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That seems to be the way that Alex's mind works.

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Right.

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But...

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Subterfuge.

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Right.

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You know, false flaggery.

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That seems to be his brand.

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You know, the people disguising their true intentions behind a visage of some sort.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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In this case, though...

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I also think that he's making up the Ukrainian uniforms there.

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Yeah, I think that...

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I think they did make that up, right?

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Yeah.

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The issue is, everybody needs to pray, maybe for two hours, that Russia...

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Is Tom Landry dead?

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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Uh oh.

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Yeah, he is.

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Okay.

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And it is time to pray.

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Okay.

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That Russia be restrained.

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This is insane level stuff.

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Let's do this.

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We've got like six videos that we've gotten the audio for.

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They're in Russian.

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Start with the burning megashopping mall in Moscow.

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People shooting people inside a music event.

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People killing men and children inside the mall.

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And reportedly hundreds of dead, folks.

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You better pray to Jesus the Russians hold back.

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This is meant to get Putin to start nuking stuff.

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And you know, why would they do that?

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The globalists all got bunkers, folks.

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They want to depopulate us.

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So yeah, I mean, that's all just Alex extending out the implications of his narrative and

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his storyline of what he imagines is happening.

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So that's how the coverage goes.

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Oh boy, I will tell you this, the one, the one piece of solace that I truly take is that

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even the billionaires and even the richest people with their bunkers will still enjoy

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a nice tree from time to time.

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So I'm not too worried about nuclear winter.

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Okay.

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You know, like I get it.

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You could survive in your bunker, but wouldn't you like a tree?

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Wouldn't you like a tree or two?

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This is why.

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It's grass.

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Sure.

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Yeah, that's good stuff.

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But you can terraform your bunker.

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I think, I think it's probably better to not do the nuclear, it is safer to not do the

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nuclear winter.

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I think generally across the board, almost everyone agrees with that.

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Okay.

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Almost everyone.

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Almost everyone.

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Near universal.

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Near universal is the problem.

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That qualifier is a real dick, isn't it?

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So Jack Posobick has predicted this attack.

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Somehow.

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He's so sagely and Alex is like, man, if only I could find the clip of him predicting it,

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wouldn't that be powerful stuff?

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Oh boy.

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And so he, he, he ruminates on that for a little while.

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When I sit here and talk about how great Jack Posobick is, it's not to kiss his ass.

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I mean, I want to hear from him yesterday on this.

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And imagine how powerful it would be if I had the crew to have him a year ago, six months

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ago, two months ago, a month ago, literally saying massive terror attacks on civilian

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targets like shopping malls and other events.

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And they just did it.

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I don't want to be the only guy that's like, Oh God, he predicted this and that.

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The guy's so smart.

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Once you figure out the enemy plan, folks, you can all do it.

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I don't want to be territorializing this like I'm the big brain bug.

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And I know all the, I want to stop this.

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I've got four children.

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We are so close to nuclear war right now.

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I am getting chills every second.

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I can barely do the show right now.

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I am so pissed off at Victoria Newland right now.

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You found a clip of what?

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You just already found a clip in two minutes?

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Wow.

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The crew is over the top.

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In two minutes, they just found it.

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Rockstars.

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Here's the clip.

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I'll tell you, it's going to be, on one hand, they will claim that is the stabilization

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of Ukraine.

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They're going to say we're going to stabilize the conflict.

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Look, Biden knows this thing's a loser.

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He doesn't want this thing going on all the way to 2024 while he's got an election coming

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up.

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He's going to claim to want stabilization.

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What we're going to see are more of these provocations going on in the backfield.

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You're going to see attacks potentially on Polish troops, Polish civilians.

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You're going to see attacks on Russian civilians, Russian civilian infrastructure.

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Remember, they murdered a truck driver in cold blood to take out the Kerch Strait Bridge.

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That's exactly who these guys are.

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They're willing to take out civilians.

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So they found a clip that's close, but that's not the clip that Alex wants.

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No.

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Because he doesn't say shopping malls, and Alex is saying that he directly predicted

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this shopping mall thing.

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Alex is really hung up on that.

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Well, it does seem like the crew is under the top then.

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Yeah.

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Well, they're close to the top.

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They're approaching topping.

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All right.

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They're hanging from a... Yeah.

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Yeah, but it's good enough.

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It's good enough.

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Alex doesn't leave again.

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Okay, that's good.

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That's good.

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Yeah.

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That's how I know that it's good enough.

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It's good enough.

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But Alex does make a point that he's like, that's not the one I was talking about.

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That's not the one.

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There's other ones.

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Of course.

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Better ones.

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Doesn't matter.

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More prophetic ones.

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Doesn't matter if there are or aren't.

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There were.

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So they give up the search for Posobek being a prophet, those clips, and Alex plays some

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video of the attack.

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And I'm going to play this because of what Alex says over it.

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Yeah.

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But trigger warning, and I would not generally want to play... Because you hear gunshots

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and it's upsetting the reality that Alex is playing this video on his show.

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But it's somewhat valuable to understand where his mind goes and what he says over content

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like this.

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Men in what look like Ukrainian uniforms, shooting people with shotguns.

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You think Russia's going to do something now?

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And the Ukrainians have been all to the news saying, we're going to strike inside Russia.

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They have been with drones.

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They've had cross-border attacks.

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Jesus Christ.

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I can feel the danger, folks.

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My spider sense has been wrong.

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Right now I'm feeling extremely guilty that I did not leave two weeks ago with my family

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in the Southern Hemisphere.

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But I felt that I said, I feel like we crossed the Rubicon.

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Look at the shopping mall in flames for miles away.

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Massive terror attack.

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Can you imagine?

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Probably 50 men to 100 men did that.

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Can you imagine the million Muslims in America, military-aged men, can you imagine the 10

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million in Europe, what they can do when they decide to go crazy?

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So this is what Alex does with content like this.

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He plays it.

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It obviously is disgusting and emotionally visceral, and he uses that to instill those

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feelings and plant them in and associate them in the audience with Muslim immigrants and

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Muslim Americans, honestly.

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Yeah.

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I mean, we've seen that movie, right?

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We have.

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We've seen the movie where the guy talks over a mass shooting video about how here are the

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people who did it and here's what you need to do to them.

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We've seen that video.

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I feel like we've seen it on Alex's show.

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We've seen that movie play out a lot.

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It is repulsive behavior, but this is the dynamic.

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This is what Alex is trying to achieve with content like this.

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Yeah, there's just no other way to... That's... What's so fucked up, he doesn't even know

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how incredibly fucked up that is.

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I wonder.

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That was just part of it.

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I do wonder if on some level he understands the deeply fucked upness of this being the

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kind of content.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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He probably thinks Robocop was a hero story.

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I've heard him talk about Robocop, and I do know that he doesn't understand it.

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I can tell you that.

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Yeah, that sounds right.

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That sounds right.

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Yep, that makes sense.

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So, Chase Geyser comes in with a little bit of an interesting question, and this is a

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question that- You mean he pops off?

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He erupts with a question that I think is probably should be on the tip of every conspiracy

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theorist's mind.

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Okay.

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What do you make of this?

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Can you feel the danger?

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Yeah, I can absolutely feel the danger, and the crazy thing about this is it's never obvious

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initially, except for maybe to you, Alex, you were really good about this with 9-11.

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Who's actually behind it?

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So, 9-11 happened, 90% of Americans believed that it was a terror attack because they hated

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our freedom, and they didn't have any inkling to think that maybe it was planned or a false

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flag or we knew it was going to happen, allowed it to happen, so I'm wondering, what are the

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odds, Alex, that this right after this election for Putin, what are the odds that Russia wants

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this to happen so they can use it as an excuse to escalate?

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He's won by 87%, he's trying to de-escalate.

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The Ukrainians said we're going to stage terror attacks.

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They're on record.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I'd blame Russians in 10 seconds, because I hope they did it, because they'd use it

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for domestic.

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No, this is full war, I just pray right now Putin has restraint, Chase.

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Yeah, so no, no way, not a chance, not a chance, no way, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,

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nope, nope, no Russia false flag, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

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And to be fair, I think that people jumping to that conclusion on social media were just

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as wrong as Alex immediately jumping to blame Ukraine.

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Just because you believe that someone like Putin, as a leader, has the ability to do

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something like that does not mean that he did, and does not mean that every incident

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is.

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Right.

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And I think that there were at least a fair amount of people who had that perspective

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that I think were, you know, just as reckless as Alex discovered.

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Yeah, that doesn't sound right.

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Putin's so personal, he always knows, and he likes it when they know that they got murdered

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by Putin.

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Yeah.

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He likes to pin a note.

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I mean, if you look back at a bunch of them, he's got a real personal kind of, you know,

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whenever it's him.

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Well, I think that this obviously has echoes of the apartment bombing.

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I think that a lot of people bring that sort of baggage into it, and I think that Alex

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might too.

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It's just that his stance on that is that it wasn't a false flag now.

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That's, this is so weird, because, I mean, five years from now, you know, well, Lord

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knows what five years from now looks like, but does Alex not be on Rush's side and then

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say that this was a false flag?

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I think there's a lot of, uh- But even though it wasn't, like, you know,

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like is he going to be wrong about something that he's deliberately not entertaining because

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of his bias?

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If there's one thing I know about Alex, he has an astounding capacity to be wrong about

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things.

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Right.

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And wrong in interesting and diverse ways.

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Novel, even.

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Yeah.

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But who knows?

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I mean, there's so many different variables about the way that things could play out that

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would change the levels of awareness that he has about various things.

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Storylines, allegiances, associations change at a whim, so, I mean, who fucking knows?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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David Chase is asking the exact question that is, should be on the mind of a conspiracy

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theorist.

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Yeah.

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And Alex is just, no.

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No.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's, it was reported these people did it.

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I'm a conspiracy theorist, so I cannot possibly believe that.

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Except in this case, I do totally believe it.

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And Alex is like, yep, nope, this one they got right.

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100%.

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Wow.

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So, uh, we get some more calls.

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We go back to the Twitter space.

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Sure.

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And by the way, this one person has a recommendation of someone Alex needs to talk to.

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Okay.

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Liz Churchill, you have joined.

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Are you still there?

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Please unmute yourself.

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Yes, I'm here and I'm just looking at this Russian terrorist attack right now.

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And I actually think it would be an excellent time to discuss what Scott Bennett has told

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your audience in the past.

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And he recently broadcasted from global freedom TV, former army intelligence, high level officer,

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great guy.

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Yeah.

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She has, he has been 100% correct.

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So with saying that he did state yesterday on his podcast that this would exactly happen.

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And here we are.

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And he also got Scott Bennett on right now, keep going, get Scott Bennett on right now.

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And I would, this is very important, Alex, because Scott Bennett stated yesterday that

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the U S is planning to do the exact same thing and they're planning to do it soon.

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He made this warning yesterday.

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He spoke with Dr. James Fetzer and they had a conversation together and it laid the blueprint.

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Yikes.

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So yeah, Scott Bennett is a long time associate of Jim Fetzer, someone who Alex is supposed

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to believe is a complete lunatic who he wants nothing to do with.

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Fetzer published the book.

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No one died at Sandy Hook.

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So he's a person that Alex should be really aware is not cool.

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And people who choose to associate with him regularly should be met with some skepticism.

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In a sane world, Alex would realize that Bennett is a guy who goes on Fetzer's show and calls

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everything fake and spouts a ton of bullshit.

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So he should discount him out of hand.

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Instead, Alex seems to think he's a really legit guy.

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So Bennett is not former high level officer or army intelligence.

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Any of that fact.

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In fact, he's a bit of a fraud.

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I say that because he was sentenced to three years in jail in 2011 for pretending to be

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an active duty officer when he wasn't.

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That is a bit of a fraud.

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Yeah.

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So in April, 2010, Bennett was arrested for a DUI near the gate of MacDill air force base

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in Tampa.

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At which point he had a concealed loaded handgun on him and a shitload of weapons in his car.

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As the case unfolded, it came up to an immigration center, a migrant center, right?

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Uh, probably taken back to his, his, his home on the air force base because it came out

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that he actually had an apartment on the base, which he had conned the military into giving

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him posing as a soldier attached to the head of special operations command, which is housed

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there.

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He'd lived on the base for three months under these false premises.

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Uh, and he'd routinely pretended to be active duty.

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He would wear military uniforms to keep up the act and everything.

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In reality, Bennett was an army reservist who'd only ever been on active duty for one

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week to attend a training session.

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He was however, a contractor for booze, Allen Hamilton, a position he found himself in after

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he had gotten a job with the RNC and it pivoted into that.

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He probably could have gotten away with this for a whole lot longer if he hadn't been drunk

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driving with a ton of weapons, but Oh, well, I mean, you know, it is, it is one of those

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things where the twin, the twin confidence that you need to pull off a dumb shit like

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that is also what leads you to drinking and driving with a bunch of guns in your car.

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It's the same thing.

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You fly too close to the sun.

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Yeah.

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It's the same impulse.

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Yeah.

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He got arrested and charged with this massive fraud.

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So naturally he's now a vaunted expert for the most unhinged conspiracy shows online.

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If a complete fraud who's a longtime associate of Jim Fetzer is saying the stuff you want

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them to say, then that guy is a great man, was a sterling reputation.

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And this is where I start to think back to Alex's earliest memories of his family working

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on space stations.

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Yeah, there's definitely that.

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Maybe he's not a, such a great a arbiter of I, I just, I just hate that.

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It's like, no, you should be like, that's the guy who did it, right?

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Oh, he predicted it.

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No, he orchestrated it.

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He's in on it.

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Do you think Scott Bennett did it?

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Obviously.

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He's gotta be in on it.

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You can't predict things.

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What did he write to operation Scott Bennett Woods?

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That's what it's, that's what's going on.

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No, Scott Bennett's got a, he's got a, uh, alibi.

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He was crashing at another Air Force base under false pretenses.

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Just going from Air Force base to Air Force base.

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I do think, I mean, there is an almost a catch me if you can kind of element to the, the

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nerve that it takes to go to an Air Force base and start living there, stashing tons

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of weapons there.

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I mean, because also when they searched his apartment, they found all kinds of weapons.

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That he was not allowed to have.

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What?

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Yeah.

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Why?

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The places to do that.

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That's almost like nobody would ever believe I would have the balls to do this.

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So obviously I'll get away with it.

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No one would ever do this.

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In terms of somebody who like had turned their life around and maybe was on a better path.

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I think this is a funny story.

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It is.

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In terms of someone who's still defrauding people and pretending they were a high level

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intelligence expert and all this, it's not cute.

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No, nope.

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Not cute at all.

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Also, one of the things that I learned was that he had a bunch of weapons that were like,

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you know, guns and knives and stuff, but also throwing stars.

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Okay.

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So are you telling me that he did three years for impersonating an officer?

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Among the other crimes.

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Okay.

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So, so the possessing all of those illegal weapons that he shouldn't have had.

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I don't remember if that was one of the charges.

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On an Air Force base.

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I assume the DUI probably.

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He was not allowed to be on, against the law firm, it's against the law to be on an Air

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Force base and live there if you're.

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I imagine he could have been there, but fraudulently getting an apartment there.

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It feels like that was a great day for the judge.

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The judge was reading through that case just being like, I don't even know what justice

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means no more.

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Yep.

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This guy has confused me.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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So this same caller has another topic that she wants Alex to address.

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Princess Kate has just admitted.

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She has cancer.

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Good God.

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What?

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Yep.

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That's what has happened.

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She'd put out a video stating that she has cancer and that she's at the beginning stages

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of treatment.

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And it was a very difficult time for her and her family to explain it to her children.

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And she wishes privacy.

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Yeah.

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They may have already killed her.

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Who knows?

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So we can grant her privacy.

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All right, thank you so much Liz, Churchill's doing a great job, reaching 10,000 today.

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What?

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All right.

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That's strange.

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Okay.

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When did they kill her?

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If they have already killed her.

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She never lived.

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Right?

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Like what was the time when-

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She's been a hologram the whole time.

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What point in time were they like, well, we were trying to do stuff, but I guess we just

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have to kill her.

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Mm-hmm.

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Like, okay.

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I think that the underlying implication and the way that this will end up getting spun

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is that she got a vaccine and that gave her cancer.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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I assume that that's the, eventually where we'll land.

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That would make sense.

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But Alex is, I think he doesn't give a fuck and that's why he's like, they probably killed

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her already.

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I don't know.

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That's a real dismissive, like, I don't want to talk about this.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't give a shit about the queen.

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Or the future queen.

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Listen-

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Wait, is she a future queen?

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No.

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Oh.

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Who cares?

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Fuck them all.

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I don't know how the royalty works.

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I don't count.

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Royals don't count.

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But here's what I'm saying.

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All right.

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Here's what I'd do.

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I'm in Kate's shoes.

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I get a terminal diagnosis.

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That's tragic.

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Don't want to, I don't like it.

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Terrible.

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But I'm going out exactly the same way Princess Di did and that would fuck up the whole world

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forever.

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Like if I could orchestrate that thing, do it just because I had been given a terminal

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diagnosis, then the entire conspiracy theory world would never recover from that, right?

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There's no way to recover.

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Maybe.

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I don't know.

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I-

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Two princesses?

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Same way?

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Mm-hmm.

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No recovery.

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No, I do.

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I agree with you.

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I think it feels to me, the sense that I get, and granted, I haven't been watching this

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super closely.

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Sure, sure.

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But it doesn't seem like this conspiracy has attracted the same type of conspiracy theorist

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as people like Alex.

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I think that the where is Kate conspiracy theorists are far more like-

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They're just more celebrity people.

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Yeah, and people who are interested in the royals and what have you.

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I don't see a difference.

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But yeah, I think Alex, you could tell he's not interested in this.

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Yeah, who cares?

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If she died just like Di, I don't think, she was already dead.

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It's not that exciting because it's really just like she disappeared, you know?

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If we had a... I have no idea what I'm talking about.

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So Alex brings in Posobek.

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Yes.

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We got ahold of him.

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Yes.

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And they found that clip, but they're not going to play it.

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Jack Posobek, Naval Intelligence, expert on all this, the most accurate person, it's just

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true.

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Ever.

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In the last few years predicting all this was on a month ago, two months ago, five months

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ago.

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The crew did a great job in just 30 minutes.

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They found a bunch of these clips, but in the interest of time, I'm going to archive

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this at Bandai Video.

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I'm going to archive this at X today.

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We'll post this.

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In the interest of time, unless Jack says play it, I'm not going to play him predicting

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it.

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Millions of people tune in today.

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You heard him predict terror attacks on things like shopping malls, universities, government

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buildings.

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I remember him saying it.

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The crew, to their credit, in 30 minutes, found it.

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That's needle in a haystack.

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In the time that you're explaining this, you could have played it.

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Yes.

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It screams to me, they found clips, but they're not as good as a...

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They are not what I remember them being because my memory works the same way my mind does

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where I make up what I would prefer to have have happened than...

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And in the interest of time, we're not going to play those clips.

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Yeah.

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He says that repeatedly.

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It takes a lot of time doing so.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Posobiec has a take on this.

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Uh-huh.

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Who knows who actually did the attack in Moscow?

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Sure.

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Who knows?

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Yeah.

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A lot of possible suspects.

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I don't know.

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But you know why they did it, and that's because of NATO and Ukraine.

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No, I don't.

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No, again, I do not know why.

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There are many groups within Russia that are opposed to Putin and opposed to Putin's regime.

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If you were working at the CIA, if you're working at one of these agencies, you wouldn't

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necessarily go directly to Ukrainian groups.

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You could also find potentially anti-Putin Russians, like the ultra-nationalists and

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others, to do your dirty work for you.

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So again, you don't have confirmation yet, but there's a lot of potential suspects, put

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it that way.

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Yeah, put it that way.

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We don't know who did it, but once we do, we're going to say that they did it on behalf

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of Victoria Nuland and the NATO forces, and it's going to be because of Ukraine.

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And it's going to be a false flag on that front once we find out who did it.

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Just too many movies.

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Just too many movies where it's like, oh, the terrorist group is just going to take

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a call from somebody who's representing NATO.

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You can't tell anybody I'm representing NATO, but we're going to give you a lot of money,

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untraceable, of course, to perform terror attacks elsewhere.

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Not going to be associated with us at all.

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Like, yeah, I'm not sure.

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This to me is the cart before the horse, almost definitively.

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We know the story that we're going to apply to whatever group this does end up being.

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But we're not letting the actual story guide the story we're telling.

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We're telling the story, and then we'll make the details fit.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And that's not great.

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We talk about wet cement.

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They're like, ah, we'll just make a mold.

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We haven't even poured this cement, but the cement will fit in here.

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Yeah, we'll figure it out as we go along.

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Details will be fudged.

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Everything is fine.

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Well, Alex does get Scott Bennett, noted squatter, onto the program.

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So Alex heard Scott Bennett was just on Jim Fetzer's podcast from a person, and then was

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like, well, we should go get him on.

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Yeah, we got to get him.

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He didn't go, that name is a fucking alarm!

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Alarm!

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No, no, which actually, to me, indicates I don't think that Alex has as negative a feeling

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about Jim Fetzer as we would like to believe based on the trial and based on how much of

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a problem Fetzer is for Alex.

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Yeah.

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I think he still kind of has positive feelings.

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Seems like they like each other still.

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Wild.

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Also, Scott Bennett seems like an asshole.

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Yeah, that sounds right.

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Scott Bennett, former army intel officer, with a whistle on incredible things.

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He was on his show yesterday.

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We have that clip too.

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That time he conned people into living.

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Predicting terror attacks in Russia.

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Scott Bennett, quickly, what do you think's really behind this?

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We'll go back to Jack Bussewick.

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This is the last death throes of a bunch of Mongoloids with mental syphilis who mumble

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in Ebonics, otherwise known as the Ukrainian CIA mercenaries.

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Woof.

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What?

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That's a hell of a sentence.

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Did he just say Ebonics?

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He did.

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He did.

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What?

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That they mumble in Ebonics.

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What?

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Yeah, I don't know.

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He's bringing a lot of baggage to this coverage.

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I do not understand any of what's going on here.

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That is, that is inexplicably racist in a lot of ways that I don't even understand.

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Yeah, and I'm not sure that my listening to the limited amount that he is on the show

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for the rest of the time helped clear any of it up.

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I got no answers for you.

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Great.

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Just seems like a prick.

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Just a real piece of shit racist.

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Yeah.

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So Jack Bussewick comes in, and this is our last clip we have here, and he also is of

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the mind that there is no chance that this is a Russian false flag.

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Right.

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None.

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Right.

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I'm being told, and by the way, I'm seeing on Twitter right now, I'm seeing on X, that

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there are people saying that this is a Russian false flag operation, somehow that the Russian

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government and the Kremlin ordered this.

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This is what all the neoliberals, all the NAFO people, the Malcolm Nances are saying.

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Why would they do that?

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Why would they want to show weakness?

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Why would they want to, why would Putin want to show weakness after he just had this huge

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electoral, you know, this electoral victory gives this huge celebration speech, et cetera,

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et cetera.

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And now he's going to come out and let his people be killed like this or order something

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like that.

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It's ridiculous.

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And it's nonsense.

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Well, let's go further.

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I said this when you were on.

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This is trying to break the resolve of the Russians.

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That's what they're attempting to do.

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Jack, I said this again.

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We're live right now, but I've got like seven clips of you now, they tell me, predicting

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this last three months.

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So we're going to add this in post or Eric later, it's going to go on X today, you can

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retweet it.

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I wish I was wrong, Alex.

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I wish I had been wrong.

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In the interest of time, we're not going to play all these, there's a massive amount of

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clips that we found of you, but yeah.

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So I think that if you allow this kind of thinking, then all false flags probably aren't

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actually false flags.

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I just don't understand.

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Cause like, you know, Bush, Bush was just elected in 2001, you know, why would he want

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to show weakness?

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Yeah.

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He just, you want to project strength to the world and here he has 9-11 happen.

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Does this, this argument is deployed inconsistently because it's, it's, it's in service of the

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conclusion they want as opposed to it actually being a reason why something is or isn't a

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false flag.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I, okay.

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Listen.

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All right.

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If Putin is next to you, if Putin is watching you or surveilling you, Putin won the election.

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In any other circumstance, no one, no one believes that they visited no one, no one,

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no one believes that it was an election.

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Nobody believes that whatsoever.

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And if you act like it was, you are embarrassing yourself.

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If you, if Putin's right next to you, he won that election because he's a fucking great

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politician.

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He campaigns better than everybody else on the planet.

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Putin is not near you.

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He did not win an election.

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Maybe that's kind of the point is that Putin is like an imaginary friend to them and he

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is always, he is always with them.

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That is a good point.

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Yeah.

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I mean like, come on, listen, you like him, but I mean still, there's no way you can credibly

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convince yourself that that was even close to a democratic vote thing.

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I disagree.

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It was one of the most legitimate elections that has ever happened.

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But see, you can't like, even if you try and pull, like that's over the top.

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Try and say something that is like, but that's kind of what they say, but you try and sell

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it.

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Try and sell me like act your balls off, Dan.

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Sell me on this is an election.

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It was a tight one.

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Yeah.

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Late voting tended to, I don't know.

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I can't do it.

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All right.

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No, I'm trying to barster.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So we get to the end and you know, I think that there's, there's some important things

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to keep in mind and it is kind of notable that it runs through both of these stories.

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The one that Alex wanted to cover and then the terrorist attack that ends up derailing

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and taking away his attention from the primary subject of Gaza.

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And that is that all roads lead back to immigration.

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This is anti-immigrant sentiment that is being masqueraded through coverage of atrocities

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against civilians or the people who are, you know, the terrorist attack in Russia.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, he, it's, it's just almost fucking, what would I say, Faustian, like the, the

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pushing a, a horrible dehumanizing genocidal agenda through the performative empathy of,

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of caring, you know, like that's, that's the, that's the real dark shit.

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Yeah.

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Whenever you hide it in empathy, it's dark.

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It's upsetting.

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And I think that, I don't know that a lot of people are being necessarily fooled by

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Alex's performance of something that looks like empathy, but I still think even if you're

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not being fooled by it, using him as a prop to be like, even he gets it, that is tacitly

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saying that he gets it.

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And you're signing off on a number of unspoken and underlying aspects of the narrative that

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of course aren't first and foremost in the tweet per se.

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Yeah.

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Because it is Alex exists on the extreme at, which means you cannot treat him like other

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and like other people.

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You can't.

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He's a specific case.

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So it is, so it is like 99% of the time if you are doing so, if you're engaging in the

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like, see even an idiot, a knows this, you're fine.

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But if it's Alex, you're still, you're still wrong.

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You're still doing a bad job.

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You're still hurting people.

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And I wonder, I wonder if it is the case that a lot of those cases with idiot a it is bad.

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Could be.

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We just don't realize it because we don't, we don't have as much awareness about the

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person.

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And maybe if we were more careful about idiot a, we wouldn't wind up with idiot Alex Jones.

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That's true.

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That's true.

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So we come to the end of this and yeah, that's a good onomatopoeia and we'll be back.

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Until then, we have a website and we're also on blue sky.

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We are on blue sky.

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It's all right.

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Yep.

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Until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm DCX.

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And now here comes the sex robot, Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a person in color.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.