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Dan (00:00:58.000)

Hey, everybody, welcome back to knowledge, right. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. Dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of saline and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed.

Jordan (00:01:07.000)

We are Dan Jordan. Jordan. I had a quick question for you. Today, buddy. You go first. My brightspot Dan is the TV show new TV show. I am a Virgo. It was made by boots Riley the guy who made sorry for bothering you. Sorry to bother you. Fantastic. Yeah, absolutely spectacular boots does

Dan (00:01:28.000)

good work. He

Jordan (00:01:28.000)

really is, uh, you know, me, I love you know, I wrote a book that is essentially liberalizing as much as possible and blunting it down to as as simple apart as possible. And what's great about this is that it does the same thing and then fantasizes it on top of it. Okay, you know, so it like it like squeezes the idea of feeling like you're extraordinary, and then expands it to being I'm 13 feet tall, you know, like, it's a really, really fascinating way of making very not subtle things. Okay. It's fantastic. Fantastic.

Dan (00:02:02.000)

What's it on? Where can people find this?

Jordan (00:02:04.000)

Well, I will say this, here's something fun. Okay. All right. It is one of the most anti capitalist things I've ever seen made. Right? Amazon Prime. Okay. That's fair. So there's that.

Dan (00:02:21.000)

You got to make your product what are you gonna do? There's no ethical consumption there really? Isn't.

Jordan (00:02:25.000)

You gonna do?

Jordan (00:02:28.000)

You can do shit. Yeah, no. Oh, it's how about you?

Dan (00:02:31.000)

My bright spot? Jordan is? I guess what you'd call a fairly big announcement. And that is at the end of September, September 23 and 2014. There is a little festival not not little I guess it's a festival conference. QED in Manchester indeed in the UK, and I was thrilled to be offered a spot speaking at anywhere. So I will be speaking at the QED conference in DGX in Manchester and tickets are available on their website. I'm not sure of schedule yet. In terms of like what day I'll be speaking or what time slot or anything but I'll be giving a talk about Alex Jones in some in some fashion still working out some of the details of the talk itself, but I'll be going over you'll be coming along

Jordan (00:03:28.000)

I will be coming along as moral support. Solely I'll just be there like a backstage I'll be like cheering you on like, like a stage mom.

Dan (00:03:36.000)

Yeah, I was conflicted at first when the invitation came if I wanted you to, like be on stage and interrupt me Well, sure. I'm still 20% into that.

Jordan (00:03:48.000)

It would be a little fun if I if there was if I had a mic in the audience and I just heckled you every

Dan (00:03:54.000)

now and again know what heckling but hate Manning? Maybe?

Jordan (00:03:58.000)

What else would I do it? Sure Come on, buddy.

Dan (00:04:00.000)

I heckle hype. So yeah, that's that's pretty exciting. It's intimidating. In some ways. I've not given a speech at a conference before that's true. It's a little bit professional for my vibes. But yeah, you know, you got to take opportunities that come and grow

Jordan (00:04:23.000)

to meet some this is the part where your, your co host your loving best friend says something like you know, Dan, you deserve it. You know, you've worked hard to get here, but I'm gonna be honest you don't you haven't done nothing. You really You got lucky with with all of the stuff you do

Dan (00:04:42.000)

know me well enough to know that that's that's what I mean. It's way better. Yeah. That's like when my house burned down. Many years back there was unfortunately a dog passed away in the in the fire. Yeah. And that night, me and a comedian friend Timmy. We went to an open mic. And Timmy got on stage and roasted me about how I killed the dog. Instead of showing sympathy,

Jordan (00:05:07.000)

right? That's no that's but but that's what I need to survive in this moment. Yeah, your sympathy only makes me acknowledge the tragedy of life. Yeah, it

Dan (00:05:15.000)

helped a bit in terms of like, you know, not not pandering and not like, kid gloves.

Jordan (00:05:22.000)

It is a it is like, you know, like when when you're acting differently to a dog they only know you're acting differently. They don't know what you're why you're acting, you know, do you know what I mean? So when people treat you differently, it means the situation is so unique and different. That it makes you uncomfortable.

Dan (00:05:42.000)

Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's probably a large part of it. So I'll be we'll be there. And having some fun, we will be come on out. Get tickets to the fest. Conference fast. We'll both best because like, you know, there aren't I don't think there's like a bunch of bands.

Jordan (00:06:02.000)

Yeah, you know, from from the descriptions I've heard from people who I know are going to enjoy it and have a great time. Probably not going to be comedian heavy. Just throwing that out.

Dan (00:06:15.000)

Might be no 311 isn't gonna be playing

Jordan (00:06:20.000)

doubtful. Doubtful. Um, so yeah,

Dan (00:06:22.000)

I, you know, this, this is a lot, you know, this preparing for this. And then, you know, there's a lot of anxieties that that come along. Certainly, there's, I don't have a passport, cursory way to get that resolved. And I'm in the process of going through the hoops of that. But you know, catastrophizing, the idea of like, well, instead of looking at it as like, well, there's, you know, steps to take and we'll get there we'll we'll make it through. Yeah. Instead of that, there's just like, the image in my head, I was like, this isn't gonna work out and I'm gonna let everyone down. It's gonna fuck up. You know, those kinds of feelings on top of the the need to, you know, come up with something to deliver chair all intermixed with, I've mentioned this a couple of times. In the middle of housing related move. Yep. That's been stressful and ongoing. It's just I've had a whole lot rattling around in my been up in my brain. Yeah,

Jordan (00:07:23.000)

you've been underneath a giant pile of shit for quite some time. Yeah,

Dan (00:07:27.000)

I don't know. I think we talked a bit more about mental health stuff earlier on when you're doing the show. And I think that that's partially because we had less listeners.

Jordan (00:07:39.000)

And we weren't, we weren't quite as concerned. It's not think it? I was thinking about it, sir. And I know what you mean. It's not concerned. Yeah.

Dan (00:07:46.000)

I was thinking about it. And like, I do not mind sharing stuff about struggles and things because I do work. It should be D stigmatized, and I think we should be, you know, not looking at things as weakness or force or anything. Yeah, I came to a point where I was feeling like as our audience grew, because our audience is a very caring group of people and everybody is very nice. I didn't want to impose my mental health issues on other people of course, you know, like everyone is so nice if you say you're feeling down or whatever, sure. I don't want I don't want people to worry about me and such Well, I

Jordan (00:08:24.000)

mean, we spend all of our time talking about a guy who emotionally abuses his audience in much the same fashion that if you don't take care of yourself, when you do it you could be doing of course, it's

Dan (00:08:36.000)

it's definitely territory. I would not want to dabble in Yeah. But But yeah, it's it things have things have been a bit bit tough. And I want to thank everyone for you know, I don't know

Jordan (00:08:53.000)

they be thankful things that they needed to be thanked for.

Dan (00:08:56.000)

Yeah, sure. Absolutely. And you've been very helpful in picking up some slack interviewing Ronson.

Jordan (00:09:08.000)

See, this is what I this is what I need. Yeah. Now.

Dan (00:09:13.000)

But yeah, so anyway, um, between between, like, some of that, you know, some of these, these this down dip, mixed with these, these anxiety pressures, and then also switching meds. Again, it's just it's been a fucking lot. And also, Alex is on vacation ish again.

Jordan (00:09:36.000)

Put a button on that.

Dan (00:09:39.000)

I think he went to Florida. Sure. Because he was interviewing the pastor Rodney Howard Browne. I believe he lives in Florida. And then he was on value tainment the Robert bet David podcast where he was the guy who did the drunk hotel interview with Oh, life is very fragile. Yes. So I believe he is in Fort Lauderdale or somewhere in Florida. And so Alex was there and then he was spotted in Omaha because his wife's family lives in Omaha. And they from what I understand from like a court thing he was out of town because his father in law was ill, very ill. And so he's been doing like some fish show out of like a, like a downgraded studio sheriff. And it's just it doesn't have a lot of charm to it. It's it was very hard for me to you know, in the state you're in where you know, things are kind of chaotic and a mess in your head. Yeah, sometimes hard to work. And, you know, listening to Alex in a dumb fake studio. It's it's hard. I struggle.

Jordan (00:10:47.000)

I love the way that we talk about this because the idea of like, oh, it's sometimes hard to work. No, no, it's impossible to work that we can overcome. It is absurd in its in it, and we don't always do a good job of it. But we can do it is the ridiculous part.

Dan (00:11:02.000)

Yeah, yeah. That it happened. Yeah. And, you know, like I was, I think we talked about this a little bit that the like doing of the show, like sitting here talking to you, this isn't work necessarily in the way that it's like, really difficult to do. But like, you know, sitting down and watching him like, it is fake studio toes, fake secondary studio, and knowing like, Oh, you're just went down to Florida to, you know, do all this shit. This is pretending this bankruptcy isn't hanging over your head. You know, it's that that is a struggle. Yeah. No, I get it. And so I didn't. I didn't find a whole lot that charmed me in the present day. So this has basically just been a long winded way of saying we're in the past. We are in the past. We're going to 2004 March 1, we're into March. Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah, pretty excited. Things

Jordan (00:11:51.000)

are things moving along. We we have time confirmed, we

Dan (00:11:56.000)

have crossed the barrier of March. And yeah, so March 1 2004. All right. It's gonna be gonna be an interesting little thing. Alex has one story that he is particularly invested in and then he gets a call that he probably didn't want to take. So that will be something we experienced and get to enjoy. But first, let's say hello to some people who are walks Oh, that's great idea. So first, Frederick ultimate Cornwall's twist. Alton, fifth Earl of good old Ickenham. But my pals call me uncle alle. Watcher, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.

Alex Jones (00:12:31.000)

I'm a policy wonk,

Jordan (00:12:32.000)

thank you very much.

Dan (00:12:33.000)

Thank you Next Happy Birthday, Leila. You're a policy wonk. You are now a policy wonk.

Alex Jones (00:12:38.000)

I'm a policy wonk. Thank

Jordan (00:12:39.000)

you very much.

Dan (00:12:40.000)

Next auto the sausage dog listens to knowledge fight on the way to doggy daycare. Thank you so much. You are now ballsy walk.

Alex Jones (00:12:46.000)

I'm a policy wonk. Thank

Jordan (00:12:46.000)

you very much.

Dan (00:12:47.000)

Thank you. Next habit. I'm quickly. I'm rapidly approaching your location signed, Marcus, thank you so much. You're now ballsy. Well,

Alex Jones (00:12:55.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (00:12:56.000)

Thank you very much.

Dan (00:12:57.000)

Thank you next. Hey guys, after you end up winning the no ledge fight, we think you should take on some ledge fight. If that goes well. We're confident you can even handle an all ledge fight. ledges be damned. Thank you so much. You are now policy walk.

Alex Jones (00:13:12.000)

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you

Jordan (00:13:13.000)

very much as long for getting you to blind read. That was I think the greatest thing that happened when we switched over. That was it.

Dan (00:13:20.000)

In the mix, Jordan Sue, thank you so much to Patrick Madrid is praying for Zach in vain to match this donation. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.

Alex Jones (00:13:28.000)

I'm a policy wonk. Telling you brilliant someone someone sodomized sent me a bucket of poop daddy sharp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser. Little little teeny baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much.

Jordan (00:13:48.000)

Thank you very much.

Dan (00:13:49.000)

So last we left off in the past while since we were in the past. Not really.

Jordan (00:13:55.000)

Okay. Well, for me. It's been a long time.

Dan (00:13:57.000)

Yeah, I think our last 2004 episode came out on the 19th. So

Jordan (00:14:02.000)

one week ago. Yeah. It's been forever. long

Dan (00:14:07.000)

week. Yeah, but it it involved Alex. Going to see the passion.

Jordan (00:14:15.000)

Right. Right. Right. Of course. Yeah.

Dan (00:14:18.000)

Also down to Grand Prix.

Jordan (00:14:20.000)

Yes. Is the first time we met down to Grand Yeah.

Dan (00:14:22.000)

So he had that happened. And that has no bearing whatsoever on what happens on this episode. However, long, distant long time since we've heard from him. Paul, Joseph Watson is going to be coming on the show to talk about a very serious issue. Okay.

Alex Jones (00:14:38.000)

I have Paul Watson. He hasn't been on for three weeks. The webmaster prison planet.com We've broken several massive stories@infowars.com and prison planet.com. He's the webmaster of a prison planet. A photo was found from a 1982 San Francisco Chronicle article where John Kerry the Congressman is smiling and adoring Anton LaVey the Satanist at a meeting with him. And, you know, people are saying, Wow, look at this photo. Well, don't forget Kerry's a member of a real satanic order that goes back hundreds of years to Germany and 1832 in this country, the admitted US branch of the Illuminati according to the Associated Press, and MSNBC, so@infowars.com and prison planet.com. We have John Forbes carry with Anton LaVey, shaking his hands smiling at him with pleasure. And then and then the article quotes. Quotes carry is saying that, well, I believe that we're all divine internally and that every religion has the truth and Anton LaVey then says to him, this is the essence of Satanism. Well done.

Dan (00:15:51.000)

These are some quotes man. I mean, I don't know how you get around this carry.

Jordan (00:15:54.000)

I've got to be honest, if I had known that Kerry was a cool dude with Satanism, I think I would have been way more on his on his platform.

Dan (00:16:03.000)

This is how easily swayed dumb liberal like us. And here's what he likes the devil and all of a sudden you're like, who I don't mind his wishy washy politics.

Jordan (00:16:12.000)

I think it's more just like, oh, well, there's at least something about you.

Dan (00:16:17.000)

There's a personality trait that is emerging something. Yeah. So I mean, the This is big. I heard him talking about breaking a story about John Kerry. Yeah. And I thought like, well, maybe we're swiftboating. Maybe this is where we're heading. Anton obeying. We're saying nice. We're saying boating. Yeah. So we got this news article. Uh huh. You had a picture. You got some quotes.

Jordan (00:16:38.000)

Sure. Essence of Satanism is John Kerry. According to the Satanic Temple itself, the essence of Satanism. Yep.

Dan (00:16:49.000)

I don't know how this didn't torpedo his campaign. Strange.

Jordan (00:16:52.000)

It seems like that would be a really big deal. Yeah.

Dan (00:16:55.000)

So now because of this, the right wing neocon types in our media, they're all on board with the skull and bones stop now horse they are,

Alex Jones (00:17:07.000)

again, people handle the full horror of this, of course, the phony neocon Christian talk show hosts are all out exposing the fact now that oh my gosh, he meant to a meeting with Anton LaVey. It was in the, you know, the front page of the San Francisco Chronicle or in the front section of the San Francisco Chronicle. This is amazing. This is unbelievable. There's a picture of Carrie with a big heavy grin behind him by the way. Very interesting. pentagram that's Oh my gosh, he's a devil. He's in Skull and Bones. Lord save us with Bush your your your son. I mean, basically I've heard him imply that bush is like this. This this reincarnation he's like representing God it's like the Pope or something to blasphemous. I've heard some Christian statements he just anointed by God in the spirit of Gods anyone carries evil. He's in that skull and bones but Bush is good. When he's in it. It's good when he's when he's saying I love Ozzy Osbourne death and hell and blonde and

Dan (00:18:07.000)

I guess Bush loves Ozzy Osbourne.

Jordan (00:18:10.000)

It's so crazy how people would call a political figure like a God King or like a chosen by the Lord's

Dan (00:18:16.000)

just indicted himself on charges of less funding. It seems like he is was it what it was 2004 wet? No, the Osborne's would have been earlier than that. I think the reality show no idea. No idea, because I was gonna have that like moment in the sun when that show was on and everybody liked him.

Jordan (00:18:34.000)

I mean, I think a bit I think what I've realized is through through the couple of Kevin Smith references that we've talked about in the past couple of weeks, I've realized I think I'm six years off with all pop culture references. So whatever it is, it happened in, I think I'm going to call it something six years behind

Dan (00:18:51.000)

2000 To see what I'm saying here. So you and

Jordan (00:18:54.000)

I were both like, it's probably mid 90s. Right. I

Dan (00:18:57.000)

thought it was late night. No. 2002 to 2005. So yeah, this is when the Osbornes was on. And his image rehab. See there anything going so yeah, it makes total sense for Bush to be like that.

Jordan (00:19:09.000)

I watched the Osborne's. Yeah, totally. He's an old man that nobody can understand. He sees Toothless now. He literally cannot bite the head off of a bat. Yeah,

Dan (00:19:18.000)

yeah. Isn't the fun. He's mad at somebody over on the other side of the fence.

Jordan (00:19:24.000)

Where's where's the will the Wilson his neighbor, you know what I'm saying?

Dan (00:19:28.000)

No, Wilson was a castaway.

Jordan (00:19:31.000)

I was thinking, home improvement.

Dan (00:19:34.000)

The same guy though, right? Wasn't it a volleyball on the other side of the fence? So Alex has a guest on

Jordan (00:19:45.000)

I just thought what if they had that the fence and then they just taped a little circle. Okay,

Dan (00:19:54.000)

so Alex has a guest on and he's going to prison later today.

Alex Jones (00:19:59.000)

Before I go any further But before I go any further, I just want to spend 510 minutes with him. It's a horrible story. We've had him on the show I have all the news articles he's done absolutely nothing. Last year South Texas foreign troops Mexican troops, illegals pouring across down there and a ranch they got the national French media with them we've documented all and have testified to illegals come across. They give them blankets It was cold that morning tell them call the Border Patrol hey, these guys are illegal. They weren't hurt there's you know there's film of all this and photos national French media just so happened to be there they come and arrest Mr. Nadler caught you know, do all this horrible stuff doing and then Satan came up show up for court knew all the stuff which he did. Well, now the governor is issued under the Patriot Act and he hasn't directly when the prosecutor Mr. North that he's going to be arrested at two o'clock mountain. That's in about two hours or three hours from now.

Dan (00:20:59.000)

Yeah, so he's going to jail. Yeah. He did not just give blankets.

Jordan (00:21:04.000)

He was a humanitarian aid.

Dan (00:21:07.000)

We talked about this. Oh, I recall this dude. Yeah, he was also this is also the one who illegally detained high school students. So he has a little bit of a vigilante career. Yeah. Where he's gone errant. So yeah, he comes on and is like, I don't know what to do. Like,

Jordan (00:21:26.000)

go to jail. And stop doing your kidnapping shit. Yeah. When did stop kidnapping not become an option?

Dan (00:21:33.000)

I did for him. Yeah. So Alex has a big rant about how we're in trouble. We're in hell. And it ends about how you'd expect.

Alex Jones (00:21:44.000)

We are in hell. We are in nightmare 1984 world I was on a big liberal syndicated show. They're like you're right. The police state machine is bad, but we need this to keep us safe. And I said what about cameras in school bathrooms? Well, there's guns in schools you know? We've got to you know, we're so brainwashed now that Oh, cameras and bathrooms. That's That's good. That's not 19 for what's wrong with you. What happened to us? What happened? Dies Debbie Morrow, you want to stop drinking the poison in the water. Let me tell you you're insane if you drink tap water. Oh, I know. You saw Dr. Strangelove. I'm saying that you know Stanley Kubrick and weird i don't want to make and fluoride and nickel and mercury and and all that garbage I'm bad the movie says I'm crazy. Because look TV says people are nuts and they say clean your water. So don't listen to me. But let's let's go to Debbie Don't listen to her either. These are products made in America. Debbie to tell folks real quick about the specials

Jordan (00:22:51.000)

Debbie, so good. Debbie tell people about the specials. Tell folks about this. I always want that to be a dinner experience. You know to just have somebody come up, scream at you for no reason about nonsense of the day like all right, your weight is gonna tell you this special leap.

Dan (00:23:10.000)

Do we upon the hungry

Jordan (00:23:14.000)

sinners in the hands of an angry God? Good, but

Dan (00:23:17.000)

it has to be like someone's screaming warnings about like not eating food or something. Or not ordering a side.

Jordan (00:23:26.000)

If the table does not share a plate of fries, yeah, then all of you shall die has

Dan (00:23:32.000)

to be it has to be something that involves like add on. Yeah, absolutely.

Jordan (00:23:36.000)

Don't eat too much during dessert.

Dan (00:23:42.000)

So we get back to the carry story a little bit.

Alex Jones (00:23:45.000)

There's a big hoopla and I think it's important that people finally understand a picture tells 1000 words John Kerry basically worshipping Anton LaVey fawning on him. Deb's pictures don't tell right away was a bombshell blonde or something the way the light carries fawning over him adage carrion and holiday meeting in San Francisco big pentagram behind them one of their little functions and oh yeah, no, it's Marilyn Monroe doesn't or Sammy Davis Jr. It's all cute it's funny and it's just for fun you know like Bush had stolen bones out of the Satanism just for fun you know it is very Christian American sir but I'm I'm evil and liberal because I'm against it. I'm pro gun I'm looking to you know that works. Nagar for big government gun control of borders are conservative. But this is of course you got a real live Satanists meeting with a carnival huckster, Satanist. I mean, of course, you're gonna have a love fest and carrying out the quote here, so I have no problem with Anton LaVey. I believe we all have deity inside of us and all religions are good. Then he said, Oh, yes, this is the essence of Satanism. Yes.

Jordan (00:24:55.000)

Okay, question. Yeah, which one is the real life satanist and which one is the carnival Okay. Just

Dan (00:25:01.000)

today is the carnival one. But shouldn't because John Kerry's the one who is in Scotland bones? Right, so he should be the real one. Right

Jordan (00:25:08.000)

but Anton LaVey is the satanists. Yeah. But

Dan (00:25:11.000)

it's all just fun and games. He's a showman. Okay. All right. Also, now might be the time to tell you this is entirely fake

Jordan (00:25:18.000)

gold. Oh, ah, I was really hoping I was really dreaming.

Dan (00:25:26.000)

photoshopped picture out a fake article.

Jordan (00:25:31.000)

Of course it is.

Dan (00:25:33.000)

Yeah. Yep. Oh, it's a fake. It's fake. The

Jordan (00:25:37.000)

essence of Satanism never changes.

Dan (00:25:42.000)

Yeah, Alex is reporting on just an entirely

Jordan (00:25:44.000)

sure sure.

Dan (00:25:47.000)

The Onion there's a lot of tells to like I went and I looked at the picture and yeah, very poorly. Photoshop. Number one. That's an issue number two, very intentionally. The date on the top of the paper is creased over a little bit. Sure. So it says like Sunday the blank the 17th of 19 Eight and on there's not a right. Right. Right. And so like you can you can tell like, some someone wanted this to not quite definitive. But then also there's only two Sundays in in the 80s. That would have been on that, like on the seventh foil by the calendar again. Yeah. And one of them is before Carrie was in office. Right? And then the other is, someone went through the San Francisco Chronicle and amazing it's not in there. But yeah, it's also a terrible Photoshop. Yeah, all entirely fake. And Alex is running with it as one big stories biggest story in the world guys a fucking idiot.

Jordan (00:26:51.000)

It would be the biggest story in the world. Totally. If it were real

Dan (00:26:55.000)

with the desire that the right had to attack carry 100%

Dan (00:27:00.000)

That would have been devastating.

Jordan (00:27:01.000)

Yeah. If if, if this were real, you would already have known about it since we live in the future. And

Dan (00:27:07.000)

Alex is pretending like the right wing folks are covering it. And I wouldn't be too surprised if some other people got duped by it. Yeah, Alex fell for it pretty hard.

Jordan (00:27:17.000)

I mean, man, though. There. There were days when people couldn't quite suss out bad Photoshop. And it seems silly in retrospect.

Dan (00:27:24.000)

Yeah. Yeah. This one is particularly like if you if you look at it.

Jordan (00:27:29.000)

Somebody cut a picture out of a magazine and then fucking they

Dan (00:27:34.000)

don't look like they're in the same room. Right? They also they don't look the right sizes. That's an issue. Yeah, yeah. So the the Casey Nethercott. Situation Alex wasn't even going to have him on to complain about how he was about to go to prison. Right. But he got a call if he had he had do a favor for somebody that he now does a disservice to, okay.

Alex Jones (00:28:00.000)

Got a call at about 10 o'clock this morning. But an hour before I went on air and then of course we had Casey Nethercott. On from ranch rescue the governor has publicly said under the Patriot Act, they're just going to arrest him without charges for running camp Thunderbird exposing the illegal aliens with ranch rescue in Arizona where 2 million illegals come across yearly in Cochise County alone. That's the Feds own numbers. John stat Miller called me now you know, I'm friends with John John has his own show weeknights here on the blog on the station on the network. I quit doing the Saturday show with John just because I'm too busy. I'm doing all these interviews. I'm exhausted and like Jeff already done two interviews to this this morning. I'd like more tonight. You know I'm making a film doing much John called me and a testament to John. And he said Hey Casey now they're caught needs your help. You know, by the time I get on air today, he's gonna already be in jail. Have an attorney Michelle Phan are the National Guardsmen to come into camp Thunderbird they're on the border and whether they're simply peaceably getting shot at by the Mexican troops not firing back and videotaping the Mexican troops drug dealing and the rest of it bringing the drugs across so they've killed Federal officers in the area the Mexican troops have so John said oh, by the way, reason also my dad died this morning at eight o'clock so I mean, here's John has just learned his dad died and then he's busy calling me so I can have Casey and other code on the course John didn't I was gonna say this on the year and he wanted me to but just you know, we're we really care about this fight. I am.

Dan (00:29:35.000)

I bet that John's upset now to be very upset. That's not cool.

Jordan (00:29:45.000)

I never understand why people are friends with Alex i It's baffling. It's amazing.

Dan (00:29:51.000)

The you could just tell that story and like he's, he wouldn't be on air by the time he has to turn himself in. Yeah, he's fine. You don't have to go and put his bed And it's on the streets. Nope, nope, that's not cool.

Jordan (00:30:02.000)

He wouldn't be he would be in jail when that guy show started this so I'm gonna have him on End of story, right?

Dan (00:30:09.000)

Because you know what? We help each other out in this fight? A lot. Not no need to do this

Jordan (00:30:14.000)

none. Only if you have a personal interest in kind of being a dick.

Dan (00:30:19.000)

I think so. Or maybe Alex just thinks me saying that his dad died. And he's still so interested in getting this information out or whatever is going to be a testament to how committed John is sure not realizing that, like that's very personal, private business. And it's up to John, when he wants to come forth with that. Yeah. And share that with the public. Yeah. So I don't know, I think Alex might think these paying him a compliment, when in actuality he's doing. He's doing them dirty.

Jordan (00:30:47.000)

I mean, yeah, we've all had the friend who's like revealed some information to people that you didn't want them to know it. And you're like, that's kind of a shady thing to do. And they were like, Oh, I didn't realize that. Alex does this to everyone constantly on the radio. It's no, that's the problem. Your shitty friend has only revealed it some people, you know, it's not in the fucking radio.

Dan (00:31:05.000)

Yeah. Yeah. So I find myself disappointed with Alex. What for? Well, just about everything, but particularly, I mean, most recently that and so I was thrilled that a caller calls in who is also disappointed with Alex.

Alex Jones (00:31:20.000)

Rod in Texas. Rod, you're on the air. Go ahead.

Caller 1 (823) (00:31:22.000)

Yeah, Alex, about ready to raise your blood pressure, about 10 points. So be prepared. I am very disappointed in you. To be honest with you. I've been listening to you for about 10 years. And my opinion of you has really gone downhill. And here's why.

Dan (00:31:39.000)

I got really excited

Jordan (00:31:40.000)

like this. This is a great start to any conversation. Sure.

Dan (00:31:43.000)

Yeah. Yeah. There's lost faith in you over 10 years.

Jordan (00:31:49.000)

Here's why. Hey, buddy, I listened to you every day. And I have for about 10 years. You suck. Now. Let me tell you about it. Yeah.

Dan (00:31:54.000)

So here's gonna tell him or try. Okay.

Caller 1 (823) (00:31:58.000)

I am very disappointed in you. To be honest with you. I've been listening to you for about 10 years, in my opinion over you has really gone downhill. And here's why. What I've been hearing from you is a lot of talk, talking to talk but not walking the walk.

Alex Jones (00:32:14.000)

Sure. I don't do enough like you do. Yeah, exactly. You got all the answers you you get out there and you bust your

Caller 1 (823) (00:32:21.000)

Yes, I do. I absolutely do. Okay, yeah.

Dan (00:32:32.000)

Put them on hold. I can appreciate that guy's responsive, like Yeah, I do. Yeah. Just trying to be a dick. Yeah. It'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm sure you go out. You you walk the walk, don't you? Yes. Yes. Yeah.

Jordan (00:32:47.000)

Well, I mean, that's your that's his opportunity to intimidate you into being a little bit wishy washy. And you're like, you know, I could do more eight. No, you can't do that. Just step up to the plate. hit it out of the park.

Dan (00:32:57.000)

Yeah, you can if you feel like maybe you do have some points that are assailable years shot or keep going. You would do the same to you. Yep. Yep. And they just put them on hold. And then he puts them on hold. And so this, this seems to keep happening.

Alex Jones (00:33:10.000)

Put him on hold. Look, it isn't about Alex Jones. Okay. And I've helped defeat legislation in the state. I've helped support those that are in trouble and get them out of trouble. I've done the best I can. I've never said I was perfect. Okay, let me put him back on hold. I'm not good. I'm not doing enough. Frankly, I think that's a sick joke.

Caller 1 (823) (00:33:32.000)

She got about another minute left. Go ahead. doing as you're acting like the sportscaster that a game and all you're doing is your narrative. You're narrating and you're analyzing the game. You're not a leader. You're not a leader? Absolutely. I've

Alex Jones (00:33:46.000)

never said that. I want to be your leader. No, I didn't say that you are earning back go home, put it back on hold, man, he loves

Dan (00:33:52.000)

putting people on hold. Hey, listen, I want to

Jordan (00:33:56.000)

once you have that power in any conversation to put people on hold, you can never relinquish it right.

Dan (00:34:01.000)

And especially if you need to, like frame people's positions in a certain way in order to wiggle around. Yeah, it's very helpful. Just

Jordan (00:34:10.000)

Oh, yeah. Oh, you know, you can't clarify. I'm going to put the boundaries on this conversation. And you can live within those or you can leave

Dan (00:34:18.000)

Yeah. And then I can say something and you'll respond, and I'll pretend that you're not responding.

Jordan (00:34:24.000)

And then we'll be done.

Dan (00:34:25.000)

So Alex is not a leader, right? He just documents he documents the evil. That's what he has for this

Alex Jones (00:34:32.000)

day. So you're frustrated, you're mad about the state of affairs. And so now it's my fault. We had Committees of Correspondence in this country for a decade leading up to 1776 that expose what our rights were, how they were being violated and who was doing it. I am chronicling the outrageous. I just like the jungle chronicle the abuses in the factories, you have to educate people about evils so they will then rise up and And stand against it. And my message is to tell others to stand up and spread the word. And I've never seen people as receptive. I've never seen people waking up like this. And how dare you say I'm not doing a good job? That's ridiculous now No, go ahead, buddy. You what you've done me. No, no, no, no. You tell us what you've done. You tell us how you

Jordan (00:35:24.000)

particle question.

Dan (00:35:27.000)

Yes, Alex at the end, there's like, I'm sure you got some magical legal thing. He's just like playing this guy is obviously a sovereign citizen that has a magic word that he can say, Tubal Cain. So yeah, I mean, like, Sure, Alex, his point is somewhat fair, except that all of the things that he's saying are fucking bullshit. Like, he's documenting the evils and having a correspondence committee or whatever. He's just riling people up with nonsense, right in order to serve and further his political means Yeah, or whatever. He's It's nonsense,

Jordan (00:36:04.000)

that he is not Upton Sinclair writing the jungle. He's wretched Kipling writing The Jungle Book is far more racist, and making bullshit to convince people that there are savages out there

Dan (00:36:17.000)

that is well put. So this caller, what does he actually want? Ah, he gets to it here. And actually, I mean, this caller is right.

Alex Jones (00:36:26.000)

You tell us how you I'm sure you've got some magical legal thing you do. Right. But you tell us how your savings.

Caller 1 (823) (00:36:33.000)

Let me let me give you a real time example. Casey called up and he was pleading for help. If we had a militia, if we really had a militia, and you supported the militia, he made a bunch of Feds trying to frame other people. Well, about him being taken in. And we got something like Mark Corky advised or elevated the mop bucket brigade. People out there. Yes, let's have the confrontation. But you will never say that. Because you're walking the fine line. Because you don't want to be shut down because you're milking everything you can. Because this is your vote your job, your

Alex Jones (00:37:11.000)

permissions, and it is my job. Thank you. Thanks for the call. And let me answer this idiot. And I'm gonna call you an idiot. I just don't I just don't appreciate you saying those things to me. Again, he's not mad about the New World Order. He's not and you know, he notice he's sitting there saying get violent. Well, you know, just free country body. free country. Color didn't

Dan (00:37:32.000)

say to get violent? No, no, no, he's talking about the specific case of Casey Nethercott. Dude called him he's like, I don't know what to do. I need help. You know that. That is what His call was. Yeah, I have to turn myself in later today. Or else they're going to send people to come get me. So this caller, if Alex believes the story that Casey is telling him, then this guy is going to be disappeared into a prison and probably killed for no reason. Because he stood up against the Mexican army that the globalists are in league with Yeah, or something. Yeah. Like there is no other response to that, then get some people over there. Yeah, the Bundy standoff kind of thing that that is what Alec should be calling them to do. And this caller is correct in saying as much that like, you're not doing that because you make money off this ship. No,

Jordan (00:38:27.000)

you know, the ironic part of all of this, right, is that the thing that makes the most sense to do is hold a standoff with the United States government, because they're inevitably going to do some illegal shit. And then later on, whenever it all settles down, and you're in court, you'll get off on their

Dan (00:38:42.000)

technicality. Well see, this is the long game.

Jordan (00:38:44.000)

That's the trick. They always lose in court because they do too much illegal shit, because they're like, How dare you not go to court? It's amazing.

Dan (00:38:52.000)

Don't give that advice to outrage advice.

Jordan (00:38:54.000)

It's great advice.

Dan (00:38:55.000)

But like, I think that this is all based on a faulty faulty premise. And that is Casey's story because he's lying. And he abused these immigrants. Yeah. You know, he deserves to be arrested. Yeah. But if you live in a world where you, like solidly believed that that is not the case. And he was very nice, and he gave them blankets. There's all this evidence that he's totally innocent and government doesn't care, then that is a point of where you should probably do that.

Jordan (00:39:28.000)

I mean, if I'm at a protest based

Dan (00:39:31.000)

on what they believe there is no reason that there should not be a standoff.

Jordan (00:39:34.000)

If I'm at a protest, and the cops grab somebody, it is incumbent upon all of us to grab that person back. I am not going to just say that it's okay for them to be arrested and that that's an acceptable thing for them to just do idea we are in a conflict and that means you don't get to just do whatever

Dan (00:39:51.000)

very least I'm not saying it has to end up being an armed conflict or you're shooting at the police or an absolutely not but showing up there as like at least solidarity or something along to make a political point, to force a confrontation in some sort of way that will gather media attention. And like humanize the situation of this crazy guy who's being unjustly jammed up by a government. That is you, it's incumbent upon you to date if you're someone like, oh, it was, but he doesn't believe it.

Jordan (00:40:23.000)

No, no, no, it is, it is. It was and is a thing. That was a good idea for the Black Panthers to watch people get arrested with guns in their hands. You know, like, just listen, fine. If this is a crime, if we're going to do the law, fine. That's fine. But we're both going to do it. Okay. And we're here to hold you accountable because nobody else is. So that makes sense to me. And it's not it's not violent. But he's accountability.

Dan (00:40:51.000)

Sure. But here's the difference with that. Like, there's a different opinion of like, between the law and Casey Nethercott, and his friends about what the law is. So there wouldn't be a situation where you could come to an agreement of like, well for doing the law, that's fine. But if you're doing other stuff, it's not because it is other stuff. That's the problem. So at the same time, like I think what this reveals is that Alex doesn't even believe Casey's story. And he's just using this for his own his own purposes. It's something that works well for him. But if he believed it, then it would be something that would be unnecessary inflection point of some

Jordan (00:41:33.000)

sure that's I mean, that's obviously the problem. It's a fundamentally unbelievable story, right? And Alex knows its core. That story is ridiculous, right?

Dan (00:41:43.000)

And that's not what this caller is saying, because the caller believes it. Right, exactly. And so that is kind of threatening to Alex in an interesting way. And so he gets real mad. Yeah, and really bummed out for the rest of this episode, because this guy raised his blood pressure. Yeah,

Jordan (00:42:00.000)

I mean, of course that grifter in the believer can never get along. No,

Dan (00:42:04.000)

they just can't. No, they will, they will be at odds with each other. But yet

Jordan (00:42:08.000)

the believer will give the grifter all their money, and tell the

Dan (00:42:11.000)

point, when they realize, oh, no, there is no give another grifter someone is gonna say yeah, they're gonna go to the decrypter with a slightly more harsh MC,

Jordan (00:42:20.000)

who will give me a different belief. Yep. Yep.

Dan (00:42:23.000)

So Alex gets another call. And this, this person has a sister, who's a public defender, but not a good one. Oh,

Alex Jones (00:42:32.000)

John and Tennessee. Then we'll go to Regina, Dave and others. Go ahead, John. I'm

Caller 2 (810) (00:42:37.000)

a paralegal who might be able to help branch rescue without violence that everyone does have the right to self defense.

Alex Jones (00:42:43.000)

And that's what I said yes. Hey, I'm not gonna he wants me to sit here on the radio and do that, but he won't do it himself.

Caller 2 (810) (00:42:50.000)

Okay. See, narracott should never plead guilty or the waivers is right to sue for false arrest.

Alex Jones (00:42:55.000)

He hasn't. They just keep harassing him and putting him in solitary confinement with no charges.

Caller 2 (810) (00:42:59.000)

My sister is a public defender in Tucson, Arizona, but she's never won a case out of 1000s of cases. So I don't recommend him relying on a public defender from the government. Especially not her.

Jordan (00:43:11.000)

I mean, listen, that's they're overworked. They're underpaid. No time, no case structure, not everything is impossible. Their entire job is based on Morley around like trying to negotiate deals for less jail time and not innocence. So I get it. Yeah, but it is still funny to never win a case out of 1000s. It's just funny. It's just funny. It's not my fault. It's

Dan (00:43:34.000)

it's funny, because of the way this guy is saying that. Yeah. It's it's not it's not her as if it was like helpful. She's your sister. But come on. So Alex, this guy did not say you should do this. And he is unwilling to do this guy seems very, that guy seemed very well. And he

Jordan (00:43:51.000)

said, Yes, that is what he does as a thing. But Alex just

Dan (00:43:54.000)

needs reassurance from this caller. And I'm not sure he gets it totally.

Alex Jones (00:44:01.000)

Am I bad? Because I'm not calling for armed revolt right now.

Caller 2 (810) (00:44:05.000)

Well, you did your part and other people need to do their part. Yeah, but I don't think

Alex Jones (00:44:09.000)

the answer is armed revolt. And I love these people that say you need to go have an arm revolt or you're a coward.

Caller 2 (810) (00:44:17.000)

Well, there's a place for that and if ranch rescue wants to study the law, and if they say the police breaking the law, they do have the right to self defense and lawful use of justifiable homicide. Anybody has that right?

Alex Jones (00:44:30.000)

Everyone noticed notice they're not bad if they don't, but I'm bad because I don't

Unknown Speaker (00:44:35.000)

I don't know comment on that.

Dan (00:44:38.000)

I wouldn't I wouldn't have commented the part about justifiable murder.

Jordan (00:44:41.000)

Yeah, I would have left that one alone. You know, there's reasons to kill the cops that's not you. I don't even let it go.

Dan (00:44:50.000)

If a lawsuit doesn't work

Jordan (00:44:53.000)

that's the one that's weird. Yeah.

Dan (00:44:55.000)

I think that this caller might be closer to that other callers side them than to Alex's. But yeah, it's it gets muddied in this. This strange need that Alex has to like have 100 different reasons why he's right. So there's like these, there's a militia that comes down to stand with him. It's probably the feds. Why this one? Definitely. And then you got him trying to turn this into a thing where he's calling for armed violence. Sure, he's not he didn't do that. He's not calling. He's not asking Alex to call for the revolution. Yeah, or anything. There is a like, it's so telling of his insincerity, the the inability to handle something like this where a caller calls in and suggests him do the thing that his beliefs imply. Yeah, yeah. And that's,

Jordan (00:45:48.000)

I mean, but who it's hard not to point to everybody, at a certain point, sooner or later being like, I believe this and then facing the choice and backing down Germany, we've all been there. Sure. We've all we've all come to a head with our beliefs and been like, well, for what one reason or another? I can't follow through this time. You know, that happens. Yeah. But Alex can't deal with that being a regularity of existence. It has to be actually I am still doing it.

Dan (00:46:17.000)

Well, it's fine. When you're a person. You know, when you're a demagogue type, it's the tough that's, that is not something that you like, because Alex is supposed to be fully thought out and all of his positions and everything is but he knows everything. And then you know, all this. There's no room for that.

Jordan (00:46:37.000)

Yeah. If you're if you're selling yourself as extraordinary, you can't be ordinary. Yeah. But you know, who is extraordinary who? John Kerry Paul Joseph Watson. Oh, no. Yep.

Dan (00:46:47.000)

He's going to come on and talk about all the important stories in the world. And you might want to note that all of these stories are fake.

Alex Jones (00:46:55.000)

All right, ladies and gentlemen. We're now at the halfway point. This Monday, global transmission, a ton of news coming up. We're about to go back to Regina, Dave, Jack Elizabeth and others that are patiently holding with our guest, Paul Watson had been on the show in three weeks and I tell you at prison planet.com and infowars.com He's the webmaster for prison planet does a great job. My wife's the webmaster for infowars.com She does a wonderful job as well. We got some major news stories broken. It looks like they're about to engage in the stage capture of bin Laden as we said they were two years ago as I said they would they're way off we've got we've got John Kerry with Anton LaVey very revealing we've got the NRA engaged in covert gun grabbing and Arnold's we've got a lot of important things happening here and the info war all fake

Jordan (00:47:47.000)

ended with we've got a unicorn sighting is absurd. Yeah.

Dan (00:47:52.000)

And it's ski.

Jordan (00:47:55.000)

Just what what are we doing here? Yeah,

Dan (00:47:57.000)

so of course Bin Laden is going to be discovered in 2004. Carry is pictured with the Satanist I don't even know how to the NRA is taking your guns.

Jordan (00:48:09.000)

I genuinely don't even know how to parody that in like a regular news organization. Like what could a regular news organization say ever three thing nonsense? That would equal in ridiculousness that? It's bananas

Dan (00:48:25.000)

do Yeah, but it all makes sense on his show. Totally. Yeah. Like if you're watching this, it's like, yep, that's the news. No, I

Jordan (00:48:32.000)

mean, because that's that's kind of the problem with the parodying of it for like a CNBC or something. It's like that's just them doing the normal news. In his world. It's the same thing.

Dan (00:48:44.000)

Yep. So what Paul needs to do for Alex first sure is reassure him about that bad call.

Jordan (00:48:51.000)

Of course, he's feeling bad.

Alex Jones (00:48:53.000)

And Paul Watson Good to have you on the show with us, sir. Great to be back on there, Alex. You bet. Uh, you know, I was just thinking, Did you hear that guy say I'm bad because I'm not calling for violence?

Paul Joseph Watson (00:49:05.000)

Yeah, heard it. Basically, every day, the fact that people say, Oh, you're in it to make money and if I had $1 for everybody that said that then I wouldn't be I wouldn't need to be in it to make money in the first place. Because when you look at these people who make these accusations, often you find that those people themselves are doing absolutely nothing on their own party and they're just slinging mud at anyone who is

Alex Jones (00:49:28.000)

somebody called last week and was mad that Mel Gibson's movie was doing well it was on Thursday and you know, and good he makes good films. Now he can make more and but but my point is I say make copies of my videos. Oh, that's not good enough. You're supposed to have a cardboard box you live in and you stand there on the street corner and and you don't follow the government takes your money by force. We're bad. Because we say here we have a book or we have a video you can make copies of it too. We're suddenly bad but but but forget that argument. The other argument was You know, you're no leader you need to call for violence will notice the people always doing and I remember, people will tell militia leaders to do that they'd sit there in the shadows and do it. The Militia leaders shoot their mouth off, the Feds would grab them. And then suddenly the person who told him to do it would jump up and be in the article long time and the format said that he recorded the violence statements. It's always the long time and form it. So they know we're winning peaceably. They know we're hurting them and exposing their crimes. So they want to get us to prematurely move with violence. I'm praying, we can avert violence, if it goes to martial law. If it can believe me, you'll know when when you're in total martial law, then we have no choice, Paul.

Dan (00:50:40.000)

Okay. Well, I think he said that we're in martial law stuff now. Definitely, within the we've been. So I guess you won't know when

Jordan (00:50:50.000)

that is kind of the problem.

Dan (00:50:52.000)

You'll know when you see it, but also maybe not. And maybe I'll be wishy washy. The the very last problem

Jordan (00:50:58.000)

is the seeing it part is even if I haven't seen it, that's the problem.

Dan (00:51:03.000)

Yeah. And I don't think that this guy had a problem with Alex making money. I think it was the making money is getting in the way of you being sincere to what appears to be your cause? Yeah.

Jordan (00:51:19.000)

I think I think what is what is going on, as Alex is trying to turn the conversation from one that is about following through with your beliefs to one that is about whether or not you can ever listen to an impure person. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a it's a purity test. We

Dan (00:51:36.000)

have all seen

Jordan (00:51:37.000)

I get it. I'm not perfect. Well, you're not perfect. Like he's trying to do that. Because Fuck it. Yeah, obviously. But he can't deal with the conversation was like, if you believe this is true, then you have to do this. Yeah. How

Dan (00:51:49.000)

could you let Casey get arrested? If you have any sway on people, like being able to mobilize and help him in some way, or make a difference? Like even if it is just do something like not violent, not blow something up and not shoot people, but have a big enough gathering of people that you get media attention to this unjust arrest? Yeah. How can you not, like be a part of facilitating that if you believe the things that you're reporting about him?

Jordan (00:52:20.000)

Totally, if if you believe that Trump killed 12 million people that's disqualifying whether you think it was on purpose, or if he was tricked? Because that means that if he gets elected again, yeah, if he gets elected again, then he can be tricked into killing 12 million people again, sure. Sure. You know, like, these are disqualifying things. You can't wave them away.

Dan (00:52:41.000)

Yeah, yeah. In this in this case, I really wish that the caller was more like, on the line of like, you don't believe the things you're saying? Yeah. Because the accusation is still he believes the things that he's saying, right, but he's using them to make money instead of doesn't he doesn't believe the stuff that he thinks about Casey, because the extremeness of the things that are being reported about like how illegal this arresting, yeah, it would be impossible to let that stand

Jordan (00:53:16.000)

up. Sir, sir. I think what you're missing is that I don't believe any of this shit.

Dan (00:53:24.000)

I believe John Kerry, you met with the devil

Jordan (00:53:27.000)

who you are thinking I'm not sincere. In my belief, sir. I have no beliefs. Yeah, come get me. What do you got?

Dan (00:53:34.000)

So John Kerry picture comes up with Paul Joseph Watson. Sure. Not very real

Jordan (00:53:38.000)

100%. I've got

Dan (00:53:40.000)

to say this about Paul. Real shithead in the present real shithead for many years, but you got to give him his due. He did tell Alex to stop covering Sandy Hook. That's true. That is definable. It is provable from the time true. And sometimes he has instincts. Yeah, because he's telling Alex that this is probably fake. So here's how that goes.

Alex Jones (00:54:05.000)

But let's get into Satanism stolen bones, this new article, going back to 1982 with John Forbes Kerry and his master Anton LaVey.

Paul Joseph Watson (00:54:14.000)

Master Well, word of caution on that, still investigating it. But I've had a few emails which say that this photo is actually staged, we've obviously we're not going to lie to people. We have the photo of Kerry in the anti war rally with Jane Fonda, which later came out on stage. And the article which is from the San Francisco Chronicle, is dated Sunday, July 17 1982. Now a lot of people have said that there was no Sunday July 17 19. Eight to do it that it was in fact a Saturday. So it seems at the moment while you're confirmed this obviously will keep people updated that this may be another example of how they tried to muddy the waters on the fact that people are pointing out Harry's involvement in Skull and Bones along with his cousin George Bush. So

Alex Jones (00:55:05.000)

I don't know, I went and saw some articles that have now been written about it. And I looked at that photo. I mean, it looks real domain.

Dan (00:55:12.000)

Really? That's amazing, right? Because what Paul is saying is that date doesn't exist. It's a fake date. Yeah. His responses, photo looks good.

Jordan (00:55:23.000)

Maybe maybe the paper wrote the date wrong. How about that?

Dan (00:55:27.000)

Alex, you are really indicating how badly you want to believe that this is real. I mean,

Jordan (00:55:31.000)

it is it is like maybe this is an example of them muddying the waters. Maybe it's an example of you being so voraciously in need of anything that justifies your ridiculous opinions that you're willing to believe in nonsense.

Dan (00:55:44.000)

So here, here's the two things that are happening that are just bananas. Yeah. One is Alex's desperation to believe this to the point of like, that date doesn't exist. I'm gonna ignore that. So the picture looks good.

Jordan (00:55:59.000)

That's one piece of evidence.

Dan (00:56:00.000)

And then the second thing is Paul's instincts are sharp, because he is now accepting that this is probably fake. And so what he's doing is coming up with a secondary story. And that is that the globalists put this out in order to be discredited? Because eventually, you know, it'll be shown to be fake, and then that discredits all the stories about Carrie being in Scotland bones. Yeah,

Jordan (00:56:24.000)

this is a false flag. It's

Dan (00:56:25.000)

a limited Hangout, baby.

Jordan (00:56:28.000)

It's a honey trap. It's pretty cool. Same time. One he 100% knows this is fake. Yeah. And two, he's doing this in a way that is like both like, Alex, you're not stupid for thinking this was real. Just to just to be clear, Alex, you're a very smart person. This is totally fine that you believe that this nonsense is real. Yeah, I think that's great. But also in case you were wondering, I'm stealing. We're still

Dan (00:56:56.000)

investigators still investigating. Jury's out? Absolutely. Not. So anyway, caller calls in and brings up another reason that this is fake. And here's how Alex responds to that.

Caller 2 (823) (00:57:09.000)

Okay. But I do have a question for you in regards to one of the articles that you have on your website today. Sure. You have a picture of Anton LaVey with John Kerry.

Alex Jones (00:57:19.000)

Yeah. And we don't know if that's accurate. Paul says we're trying to find out,

Caller 2 (823) (00:57:22.000)

okay, because I actually posted it on a message board. And we've been talking about it on this message board, and one of the guys says that it mentions John Kerry as a congressman. And it's supposed to be from 1982. However, John Kerry wasn't even a congressman until 1985. No, he

Alex Jones (00:57:42.000)

was a congressman. He says he's been in over 20 years in Congress.

Unknown Speaker (00:57:46.000)

Well, I bet. That's your

Caller 2 (823) (00:57:48.000)

website. And it says that he was elected to Congress in 1985.

Alex Jones (00:57:53.000)

Governor Paul brought that up in the last hour. What they do is we have all this real stuff out there. And then they'll put out this info then be discredited. And then oh, that isn't true. He had a member of Skull and Bones gotta be there. We'll try to get to the bottom of it.

Caller 2 (823) (00:58:07.000)

Okay. All right. Thanks. That's that's pretty much it. We're just trying to figure out whether it was whether it was real image or if it was real. It does. It does. You got that. Right.

Jordan (00:58:18.000)

You already answered your own question. He wasn't a congressman. Three years afterwards. There's no other questions that need to be asked. The answer is found.

Dan (00:58:30.000)

Well, to be fair, like I said, the date is creased a little bit. So there could be like the people saying it's 1982 Could be wrong.

Jordan (00:58:38.000)

Could be a five, could it be a 95?

Dan (00:58:41.000)

I think 88 was the year that the Sunday would have matched up, right. So it could be that that's the way you could play it if you wanted to do that. But yeah, so it's I mean, it's just fake as shit. But Alex is hanging on so hard, still looks good. He says and also is trying to dispute when carried to Congress, just so we can hold on to this.

Jordan (00:59:04.000)

One of the most exhaustively detailed things is just when people went to Congress.

Dan (00:59:11.000)

Well, I mean, people are proud of it. So you know, getting elected is a big deal.

Jordan (00:59:16.000)

Certainly detailed and exhaustively written down about that. Oh, boy.

Dan (00:59:21.000)

So we're still still looking into this one. For for people who

Jordan (00:59:25.000)

love the idea of that like one argument solving legal cases have just been like, ah, it is because of duck Baba on the puppet to walk away you know, like the king. This is the most smoking gun evidence you could have and he wasn't there.

Dan (00:59:43.000)

I think better evidence would just be there's a big pentagram behind him and the Photoshop looks like shit.

Jordan (00:59:49.000)

There's definitely that there's definitely that

Dan (00:59:53.000)

fun. So yeah, I wonder I'm excited to see if the next day he has a retraction. But here's the thing, he doesn't have to retract it because it can be a globalist psyop. Like they've said, it's so good, even when you're wrong, you have an opportunity to like, just pivot it a tiny bit and make it a larger conspiracy that actually works for you. And honestly, with a internet prank hoax like this, how is anyone ever going to really say if it was the globalists or not totally, even if you find out who posted it the first time it could be Oh, sock puppet account?

Jordan (01:00:28.000)

Right? Why not?

Dan (01:00:29.000)

Yeah, there's that it's so dumb. It is.

Jordan (01:00:31.000)

It is one of those things that's so deceptively easy, that you think like, oh, man, that would be a good thing. But it's too easy. It takes your soul away to have things come to you that easily where you can be both wrong and right. And it never matter. Yeah, you can just say whatever you want. And if it is wrong, you just pivot slightly and be like, ah,

Alex Jones (01:00:50.000)

they told me to say

Dan (01:00:51.000)

that I'm wrong is part of the conspiracy.

Jordan (01:00:53.000)

God you drive me insane, sir. Yeah, it is.

Dan (01:00:57.000)

It is a fun game in terms of like, it requires almost no effort, not when you get used to putting in zero effort breaks you. Yeah, yeah. And then I mean, we see where he's at now. You see what happens? Oh, you gotta let this be a cautionary tale about drive for thing. Yeah. Don't believe that pictures of carry with the devil are real.

Jordan (01:01:19.000)

That's, that's it almost be like a map point. You are here, if you believe pictures of Kerikeri and such are there you are here. And you can see where you're gonna go. Well, yeah,

Dan (01:01:30.000)

I mean, like, just put it on a macro level, believing all kinds of bullshit on social media. You're here. Yeah. And then a little bit later, just a picture of Alex. And this is where you will end up. Ooo. At least intellectually, it's Yeah. So we come to the end of this. And this is a this was an interesting, little bit of adventure through a day in the life. It was fun. Yeah. Yeah. In terms of some some Alex content that you can get this was pretty pretty.

Jordan (01:02:01.000)

You know, I don't even think we had anything he submitted today. No, that's downright miraculous.

Dan (01:02:06.000)

So if it is, it's crypto as hell.

Jordan (01:02:09.000)

You got Yeah, we're pretty attuned at this point.

Dan (01:02:13.000)

So yeah, you just get this fun little charade about Anton LaVey. Alex having to wrestle with people telling him it's fake at the end. And Alex having a caller who takes the piss out of him a little bit and he gets pissed off. That's fun. That's good day.

Jordan (01:02:29.000)

This is the fun part about just like, listen, we have three hours to fill. Like it or not. There's no like, Oh, we've run out of news today. So we're gonna take the next hour off, which means some days it's like there's nothing going on. We're talking about Anton LaVey and John Kerry photoshopped in the same picture on a fake news article from a year that didn't happen. Here's

Dan (01:02:51.000)

the trouble though. Like slow news day or not. Alex is covering like

Jordan (01:03:01.000)

that. That's right. I apologize. It could literally have killed

Dan (01:03:08.000)

multiple stories to cover that. This is this is like the fertile ground for him.

Jordan (01:03:14.000)

That's the stuff that's the stuff.

Dan (01:03:17.000)

So we will be back. But yeah, you know, the you know, you can be you can be in a bit of a bummer sometimes. And I have been and you know, it'll pass. We're we'll make it through to the other side and the other side eventually leads to Manchester. But until then, Jordan River,

Jordan (01:03:38.000)

TV two.com. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. Has that knowledge underscore fight? Yeah,

Dan (01:03:44.000)

we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neil. I'm Leo amnesiacs. Clark. Boop boop, boop boop boop boop, boop boop.

Unknown Speaker (01:03:54.000)

And now here comes the sex robots.

Alex Jones (01:03:56.000)

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.