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Dan (00:00:58.000)

Hello, everybody. Welcome back now we're a couple dudes like sit around worship at the altar of saline and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are Dan Jordan, Dan Jordan,

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quick question for you. It's pretty spot today, buddy.

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My bright spot today is like thank folks who have chipped in over at our GoFundMe fundraiser. Oh, indeed. And also, this bright spot comes with a little blast. And that is that I added a note to the campaign, just to say, hey, all the buttons have been sent out. sure appreciate anybody chipping in but don't think that you're gonna you're not gonna get a button if you do the thing, right that That ship has sailed, right where I added a note on this nice little thing not knowing that when you add a note, they now have to review your fundraiser and they take it offline. Oh my gosh. So it's all pause now. So I hope by the time this episode comes out, it will actually be able to accept donations but

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I'm glad I got another way before the before the note hit

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feel real dumb. I didn't know that about GoFundMe policies. But it's, you know, the thought that counts, I guess. So. Thank you to everybody. Very nice. Folks. What's your bread?

Jordan (00:02:12.000)

My bright spot is this rule require a slight bit of context. My wife and I, we go to this yoga class. And there's one yoga teacher who has very clearly taken me on as a bit of a favorite is this

Dan (00:02:24.000)

the folks who don't hang out with Jordan and I when there's no one else around? Right? They don't know about this? Is this the one who's a little aggro?

Jordan (00:02:32.000)

No. Well, maybe I mean, I can't remember which one I've described as such, but she's like should bend really hard. She's like, borderline elderly woman who is absolutely ripped like her history is dancer Acrobat of bodybuilding. Like yeah, she's

Dan (00:02:50.000)

you described one is one of the leaders as being like borderline sadistic. Yes, there is definitely not the same person. No, no. Same person. No.

Jordan (00:02:59.000)

This woman is she's clearly changed, chosen me as her favorite. Right? And so my wife went one day without me. And the feeling she had of like, a medium the teacher was going like Oh, Jordan didn't come with you. And then the change in demeanor

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then she got sadistic towards

Jordan (00:03:20.000)

so so. I've comes home, and she proceeds to roast me for a good 1015 minutes on my subpar yoga ability. The unfairness of her choosing me all of this stuff, and it was so fucking funny. Yeah, I could not stop laughing for like 20

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minutes. It's funny how you're so funny. Your wife to her life. Funny. It was incredible. How funny. Borderline Abberley lady should love me.

Jordan (00:03:54.000)

I had to like leave the room for an hour to laugh.

Dan (00:03:58.000)

But I bet she loved that. She was thrilled.

Jordan (00:04:03.000)

No, she loved it. She won that that was great. All right, it was awesome. I couldn't have been happier. Well, that's

Dan (00:04:09.000)

a lovely marriage moment to share with the audience.

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is so funny.

Dan (00:04:15.000)

Good time. What's your break? But today we have episode to go over. And we're gonna be talking more in the past. Hey, we'll stick around in the past because we got to get there for the larger we're barreling towards the screen. Yes. And you know, some people I think have some negative feelings or at least they they prefer modern day episodes to the absolutely the past some people I understand that. You know, Alex's voice is really annoying in the past, but I would argue his voice on the present is pretty annoying too.

Jordan (00:04:47.000)

I mean, the audio quality has changed terribly. Yeah, um,

Dan (00:04:51.000)

but I think that there's meat on bones in the past. I just I think there's a couple of things that we get talk about in this episode that are so far afield from anything that comes up in the present day stuff. That it's just it's it's the difference between a good and a bad improv suggestion. You know what I mean?

Jordan (00:05:12.000)

Yeah, no, I feel like we're at every episode we do we're trying to bring you the best episode possible. And I'll tell you what you may want you may think you want a present day Alex episode but then if you get it you might find I wish we had gone into the past right and then you know, trust Dan, with your goddamn choices.

Dan (00:05:34.000)

And you know, look well, we will talk about the present as soon as Alex Jones is dot live

Jordan (00:05:41.000)

back online as long as that painting show is still in the in the work. We will keep

Dan (00:05:45.000)

everyone posted on that. Yeah, we'll be back in the present but like this need to get to the screen for the live show. Crucial. Holy shit. Yeah. Because otherwise I got nothing.

Jordan (00:05:56.000)

Yeah, no. It is. It is absolutely necessary. Or we will have a weird Friday night. We'll just let DJ Dan Turkey play for the entire show. That would be an option. Yeah, people would love that.

Dan (00:06:10.000)

So today, we're gonna be talking about January 9 through 12th 2004. This is a Friday and a Monday. The weekend shot not involved. Gotcha. Like I said, there's some amazing stuff that goes down on this episode. A lot of immigrant hating and some weirdos. Sure. And the last clip, I think is spectacular and revelatory in a way that will blow mind. Wow. So we'll get down to business on this and when

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you tease things, it's dangerous. I'm

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pretty big. This is nuts. All right. Um, but before we get down to business, let's take a little moment say hello to somebody. Whoa, that's great idea. So first 90s cartoons are fabulous. You guys are just like Norbert and Daggett from angry beavers. Check it out. Thank you so much. You are now ballsy Wong.

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I assumed we were Mr. Peabody and that kid that one is really hard to avoid. That was not a 90s cartoon. That one's pretty much dead on that'd be word cat dog. I don't know I these are outside of my cartoon room. I don't think I ever watched angry beaver. Well,

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Next, Alex lost his neck in the info war. Thank you so much for an hour policy. Well,

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And hello, I've been trying to contact you regarding your vehicles limited woke insurance. Thank you so much for now policy walk. I'm a policy. Thank you very much. And we got a couple of technocrats in the mix Jordan. First the pirated NFT of Roger stones, presidential pardon and thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and non Christian Christian also known as more Damn, you have rised above your enemies. You may not quit tomorrow, you can take as many breaks as you need. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat.

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Thank you very much now,

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we've jumped in. In 2004 January 2004. And we're in a situation where apparently the bath party is still in charge. Really? Well we haven't gotten an update on Oh, okay. You know it

Jordan (00:08:48.000)

was gonna say we were gonna get an update details still

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hanging in the air. Okay, I haven't gotten any kind of correction are best we know. They are still should run and shop. We also are in a situation where the Democratic primaries are heating up quite a bit true. And Alex is not talking about it at all. No, there is compared to how obsessed he is now with like electoral politics on the present day. He does not give a single fuck. At this point.

Jordan (00:09:18.000)

Do you know what do you know? It's crazy. I feel like it makes sense in that, like, people when they get older, they care more about voting. That's been the stereotype in America for how many years

Dan (00:09:31.000)

might be the case. But I think I mean, I still think voting is important now. But like, I think I cared more when I was younger.

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I agree with you.

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But then again, I wasn't I wasn't inundated with like an entire world of people who no matter what the election result is they'll claim they want Sure Sure. Sure. Sure. So that kind of has a little bit of demotivating. Right.

Jordan (00:09:55.000)

We were raised in a world where if you stolen election, the polite thing to do was pretend that it wasn't stolen by the Supreme Court

Dan (00:10:02.000)

right and at least get the Supreme Court to like go to junk. Yeah, yeah, get a stamp. But it is just it's wild to me to be listening to this and knowing what's going on in like the news and like normal news shows, and it just completely absent from Alex's coverage. Pretty wild.

Jordan (00:10:20.000)

Yeah, I mean, especially because people didn't know about it back then. You know, like in the in the current world we live in we know about the the incursions of the insanity upon the on the real world back then. This whole area was untouched. Well, but no,

Dan (00:10:37.000)

but but also even more than that. This is what Alex is supposed to be. Yeah, you know what I mean? Hey,

Jordan (00:10:43.000)

this field is above the left right paradigm at this point in time is right.

Dan (00:10:46.000)

Yeah, he's not meddling around and talking about the dynamics of the Democratic primary or Hillary's gonna run or whatever the fuck he would be doing at this point.

Jordan (00:10:56.000)

They're all globalists should have been his guiding light from day one day one. politic Yeah, except grandpa day one everyone in politics is a globalist regardless of whether or not I think they're on my stand. Anybody

Dan (00:11:09.000)

who's related to Ron Paul Yeah, and and but it only makes the good politicians or Paul family members.

Jordan (00:11:16.000)

But it makes sense for him because the only people that he would like in his worldview, Muslim by definition, be deceiving him for the globalists, you know, like, like a like a Trump or whatever. That is so attractive to Alex. That's clearly a plant, you know, it's made to fuck him up.

Dan (00:11:37.000)

Well, and the other side of it is that if if someone is the real McCoy they by definition can't win. Exactly. So you always

Jordan (00:11:48.000)

Yeah, cuz the globalist won't allow them to win. So

Dan (00:11:51.000)

why get caught up in the system? You know, saying it's a it's a self defeating thing to care about electoral politics. If you're Alex, and it makes sense at this point. Yep. Fuck bush. I don't care about the primary. Who cares? I'm with you. So anyway, Alex begins on January 9 here talking about Saddam. Sure. There's some news. How's he doing? For the last

Alex Jones (00:12:10.000)

30 minutes, the latest info on Saddam Hussein supposedly having cancer and some of his top minions being killed. I hope he doesn't get killed. custody. We're just controlled by the parasite like

Jordan (00:12:26.000)

scalar attack?

Dan (00:12:50.000)

Boy so this is the second time in about a week or two that Alex's feed has just abruptly dropped in the middle of him saying a word. Yeah. Both times that revolution song plays? Yeah. That tells me that this is like an automatic thing that I set up, where if he goes offline that track kicks in because he has a feed that goes to Genesis communication, right? And so like, if his connection to that feed gets cut off, the Genesis must start playing the song. Right, right. Yeah, that's how the relay is set. Stop gap. Yeah, I would have brought this up the last time that it happened, because it's so jarring. But it was in that No Man's Land of boring episodes. And his response actually was pretty chill. He laughed at often said that that happens sometimes made it clear that people shouldn't think it was any kind of an attempt to take him off air. Like nowadays, any tech problems. That's a globalist attack, even if it's just the crew playing the wrong clip. So Alex being so cool about a pretty severe tech issue was notable, but not really all that interesting. Yeah. Now we have a second data point. So we have to see how he reacts to this one. Well, it's fine. What do you think, you know, some of the dynamics here? Oh, man, how do you think he's gonna respond? Is it a conspiracy? Is it not? Well,

Jordan (00:14:05.000)

one first and most important part, they chose that song specifically because we're Alex to be taken off by the globalists. That is an appropriate song to play.

Dan (00:14:16.000)

I think it's also royalty free. Well, let's be and maybe be generous maybe it's like one of the like, weird Patriot friends of Alex didn't want to promote good

Jordan (00:14:26.000)

bait. I'm gonna say that he is annoyed. I'm gonna say he's frustrated and he says I can't believe this is still happening. That's my guess. My guess is still happening. So

Dan (00:14:37.000)

like incompetent.

Jordan (00:14:39.000)

Yes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. First time is a mistake. That happens second time now it's incompetence. Well,

Dan (00:14:46.000)

here's where we land. So many. We had last ones before. Now

Alex Jones (00:15:16.000)

Alright, folks, we're back live. And when I got to the studio today, I noticed the phone company was doing something with the different digital lines. And there's no one from the phone company outside the office. There's just a black wire strong running right along the side of my office. All right. So that's the connection up to Minnesota and the folks running the show on the satellite. uplinks will maybe have more than one life, have the show today and have Glen Spencer on and to have Joel Skousen, and Keith Parker, and of course, Paul Watson. And if we keep having problems, I'm gonna jump in the car and drive 80 miles an hour to the other studio, oops, never happens once or twice a year, and now it's happening. And I'm beginning to think it's deliberate. In fact, the British media caught it on tape, I'm sorry, about three years ago. They were here in Austin. And there were people that quote didn't work for the phone company, continually in the big box down the road every day when I went on the air. So one day I started running the song I went on air drove down and caught the guy in there. Another time I had somebody walk up the side of the studio, and there was just a cut wire out there. They just cut the the digital line. Oh, yeah, there's not a New World Order, folks. What? There's no such thing as that.

Dan (00:16:36.000)

So I guess it's a conspiracy after

Jordan (00:16:38.000)

Yeah, I was gonna say I felt like I was I was on it for a little bit. And then it went to be

Dan (00:16:45.000)

somebody always at the box. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, I was disappointed by this. I really appreciated his just being like, as tech stuff happens. We're not the biggest show in the world. I got an uplink to Minnesota. That's, that's how the show ends up getting there. And, you know, whatever. Now he's got to because it's happening more. He's got a

Jordan (00:17:04.000)

the smallest amount of humility goes a long way.

Dan (00:17:08.000)

It does. It does, but it doesn't stick around. It turns out that well, that's why it goes a long way because it's very rare. Also the British media. I think he's talking about Jon Ronson. Yeah, that would make way more sense. So we got maybe we should call John and see if he can. Onwards. Oh, that'd be fun. If

Jordan (00:17:23.000)

we had John on as a guest for a 2003 of us. John, what was it like back in 2003 into olden times,

Dan (00:17:29.000)

did you catch saboteur trying to take out so I imagine not. Anyway, we get to this Saddam story, right. There's a big story about Saddam and his his cancer,

Alex Jones (00:17:41.000)

reports of dominance. Shane has cancer and this was announced on some of the Asian television channels in Taiwan and other areas and we did find a news article. Out of the Sophie morning news report. Saddam Hussein has cancer the ultimate Iraqi dictator who was currently under custody with the coalition forces suffers from cancer of lymph glands. Of course, it's super fast and terminal to Lady alna. OB daily reads, citing an Iraqi official, according to the daily the diseases in an advanced state, so doctors predict the former dictator would probably live a couple of years more doctors came out with the fatal diagnosis while making thorough medical checks of Saddam Hussein, that is captured near the hometown to Crete in December 2003. Allegations of Saddam Hussein's illness appeared during the military campaign in Iraq last year, when one of his private doctors residing in Syria claimed that the former dictator suffer from cancer. Oh, how convenient just like, just like in about a week and a half after the announcement, Jack Ruby dropped dead from super fast cancer, kind of like the Shah was fine and got flown into England died real quick of that fast cancer, but I'm sure he really does habit and just the coincidence of guards and guards.

Dan (00:18:58.000)

So the obvious implication here is that the globalists gave these people fast acting cancers to kill them as a way of covering up how they were the ones pulling the strings behind people like the Shah, Jack Ruby, I guess Jack Ruby stood trial and then three years later, he was diagnosed with lung cancer so quick, he died of a pulmonary embolism likely related to that cancer, which isn't necessarily suspicious. He was going to get a new trial, but it wasn't really a question whether or not he killed Oswald. It was just a matter of whether he acted Premeditatedly. And if his death sentence was appropriate, yeah, the Shah died in 1980. But he'd been diagnosed privately with cancer as early as 1974. Right. As verse Saddam, there's nothing. There's reporting going back to at least 1996 The doctors had been treating him for lymphatic cancer. Then in 2000, there was a string of stories about the reports that Saddam was secretly ill but of course, a lot of this was very difficult to reach any concrete conclusion on opposition forces were often cited as the source of that Intel and the Baghdad embassy would deny the stories which all make sense Right, the opposition would want to paint Saddam has weakened, and the embassy would be concerned about the effect that of disclosing Saddam having cancer. What could that do to the oil market course? It's not clear if he had cancer, and he refused to have a biopsy after he was captured. But it is possible that he did have cancer, because there's definitely a family history. Yeah, sure. He was tried and then executed in 2006. So whatever smarmy bullshit Alex is trying to imply really doesn't make any sense. And it's just another example of how horrible his prediction track record is.

Jordan (00:20:29.000)

It is. It is funny. It is very funny to me the idea of Saddam being captured, and then a doctor taking a biopsy and being like, listen, Saddam, this has never happened to me before. You have fatal cancer and stuff. But that's the least of your problems. Right? How crazy is that? Like, it's almost a good news diagnosis for you to fatal games. Like what does it matter at this point, right? Who fucking cares?

Dan (00:20:54.000)

Good news, bad news. The bad news is you're going to be executed when you're trying. Good news is your cancer.

Jordan (00:21:01.000)

You have cancer so narratively.

Dan (00:21:04.000)

Also, I just love Alex being smug and talking this shit. Well, in reality, he doesn't seem to know that these reports of Saddam having cancer it's nothing really new. It's, you know, seven years history of these reports coming out. Yeah. If he's going to cover this story, you'd think he would have an awareness that this isn't news, but he's acting like it's coming out of nowhere to conveniently get Saddam out of the way quick, right? This is just a sad display of like, pretend expertise. Yep. So what happens when you just skim these headlines and then make up stories about shit?

Jordan (00:21:34.000)

Yeah, yeah. It's, it would be nice for the people who say things, it would be nice if there was not an inverse relationship between the confidence with which you say something, and how much you know about it. That is a huge issue for most of humanity. It

Dan (00:21:49.000)

is. Yeah, it definitely is. Oh. So it's not just the DOM. It's also associates of his that need to be discussed.

Alex Jones (00:21:59.000)

Also, unofficial sources to owl Baba Saddam's presidential secretary dies in US custody. And there are metod reports here of them killing people with electric shocks so powerful. They're killing them. They're putting them into commerce. Yeah,

Jordan (00:22:15.000)

we only reserve that prison was on

Alex Jones (00:22:17.000)

it she it's like the latest hairstyle or, or clothing. Push it's it's just wonderful. It's a torture sheet.

Dan (00:22:29.000)

So this is a story that Alex is reading from rents.com, which is a website run by nutball. Conspiracy theorists, Jeff rents who happens to hate Alex field has mutual okay, this story is about a bit out too creepy, who was Saddam secretary, but it's also not true. Or at least the reports that he was killed in US custody aren't true. He was tried and then executed in 2012. As we see with just about everything involving his Iraq coverage, Alex is a really bad source of information. He's not someone with any journalistic standards. So you wouldn't expect him to resist covering the story on that count. But he loves to pretend that his gut instincts are so precise and always accurate. So you would think you would have picked up a cent on this. Maybe Maybe there's nothing to fact check now. But his gut, which 99% accurate

Jordan (00:23:16.000)

would basically since this whole article he's reading is clearly like not the usual like it's a website devoted to the many different productions of rent, I assume rents. So rents

Dan (00:23:29.000)

are E M S. E. I understand. Look, you know how many?

Jordan (00:23:36.000)

I don't feel shame. Yeah, how

Dan (00:23:37.000)

many productions are bad? Tons of them? 525,000.

Jordan (00:23:41.000)

You got me? Well done. You when you in this round? You didn't think I do that? I didn't see it coming. I didn't see it coming.

Dan (00:23:50.000)

I only know that song because the movie rent came out when I worked at a movie theater. Yeah. And during the credits that's on like, four times a bad check.

Jordan (00:24:01.000)

Gotcha. Who? Now can you do that as good as wild 125? DJ man

Dan (00:24:09.000)

do you measure? You ran the live?

Jordan (00:24:13.000)

Oh, yeah. I don't know any more than that. That's plenty. That's more than anyone needs.

Dan (00:24:22.000)

So there's a lot of immigrant and border related issues on this. Actually, both of these episodes. Yeah, they're gonna be covering, as Alex had some complaints about Americans in Mexico.

Alex Jones (00:24:36.000)

A nation is not a nation. It's not a country, a sovereign entity unless it has borders. I have lived my entire life in Texas. My ancestors fought and died and are on the memorial. Fighting the Mexican dictator of Santa Ana. And when you go to Mexico, if you look like you have money. In some of the tourist areas, they leave you alone down south on the coast. But if you go down south over the Texas border, you'll be treated with hatred, you will be called names by the police. They will write your wife right in front of you, I'm sorry, what eats you up? They will take you to the jail, they will extort hundreds of 1000s of dollars out of you. This is what they do. In fact, almost everyone I know has been rousted has been harried has been fed on. If you try to come to their country illegal, you're lucky if they don't kick your guts out. But that's okay. That's loving and good. You're not going to find the ACLU or the Southern Poverty Law Center going after Wait, the corrupt officials over there?

Dan (00:25:43.000)

Sure.

Jordan (00:25:44.000)

Wait, is his point we should treat them worse because their treatment is bad?

Dan (00:25:49.000)

Ah. Well, I mean, I think you probably resist that that freezing. I think he would say we shouldn't treat them as well.

Jordan (00:25:58.000)

Right. Right. But I mean, what he's saying is they treat them bad. So we should be more like the bad people or they

Dan (00:26:03.000)

treat Americans bad. Right? We shouldn't treat them as well. Not that we should

Jordan (00:26:07.000)

treat them worse. No, that is exactly what Ababa as well mean. No, they treat they're the bad guys. So we should also be the bad guys this

Dan (00:26:17.000)

glass half full glass half full. I really feel like I know there's some crime in Mexico to corruption. But I think Alex might be overselling things a little bit. He's acting like it's just a free for all purge,

Jordan (00:26:29.000)

you know, when they take the low road, we should destroy that road by building a tunnel underneath it. Yeah, that makes sense.

Dan (00:26:37.000)

Also, it's absolutely not the place of the ACLU or SPLC. To step in with cases where an American citizen is detained in a foreign country. You don't have the same legal protections in other countries that you may have here. And your citizenship is not a shield that you can use to avoid other countries laws. And a situation when a US citizen is arrested in another country, they should contact the consulate or the US Embassy. We'll be able to help them in some general ways and connect them with a local attorney who speaks English and go from their way Sparta, the ACLU and SPLC are groups that are involved with civil liberties, which you don't necessarily have when you're on foreign soil depending on what their laws are. Yeah, that's an issue. So Alex has this guy Glenn Spencer on sure sucks. He has been on before we've talked about him a bit. He's a big time. Pizza shed border. Vigilante ish type. Craig Wright likes to fly drones around Cheyenne, like find people crossing the border, what have you and then

Jordan (00:27:34.000)

analyze stories. He's a guy trying to get a body count for himself.

Dan (00:27:38.000)

glass half full blast. There we go. So anyway, hear, here he comes.

Alex Jones (00:27:43.000)

So here to talk with us for the next 45 minutes about this high treason. And how the Neo cons are trying to spin this Oh, it's just political. Is Glenn Spencer of America. patrol.com, the premier organization, no compromise, telling it like it is Glenn, good to have you on.

Glenn Spencer (00:28:03.000)

It's good to talk to you again.

Alex Jones (00:28:06.000)

You know, we've been desensitized to this over the years knowing that they were planning to this isn't like the embassies of the past where they just give amnesty to those that are here. This is everybody in perpetuity. But this is finally getting the dumbbells to wake up. But now the neocon some of them are trying to pacify them. Give us give us the picture of what's going on?

Glenn Spencer (00:28:27.000)

Well, I think you know, we started coming, we saw the trial balloons drifting through the clouds. When Secretary of Homeland Security rich a few weeks ago said that these people should be legalized. We knew it was coming. Actually, I knew it. Right after George Bush was elected. But he said, we have to make and this was in the newspapers of three years ago. This month, he said we have to make migration, safe and orderly. When I read that I knew we were all in trouble. Since illegal immigration is already safe and orderly as your time he only could be talking about illegal immigration. And that at the time, three years ago, told me that George Bush was an open borders, globalist ready to sacrifice the country on the altar of globalism. And I was right. Wow, been

Dan (00:29:28.000)

proven right. Yeah, that sounds right. So Glen Spencer is an old time xenophobic bigot and his pretend concerns about immigration are not things I take particularly seriously. George W. Bush's presidency was a time of steeply decreased numbers of naturalizations of immigrants, and there was no massive amnesty offered to undocumented immigrants within the country. Like was done in 1986. Yeah, until his fairly recent death, Spencer used drones and other tech to stock and vigilante patrol areas around the border. He was a pile of shit. I've probably brought this up before but just in case I haven't I wanted to talk about a 2008 column he wrote for American patrol. It's titled quote, speaking the Unspeakable is Jew controlled Hollywood brainwashing America. There we go. I was waiting for that in the piece. He claims that he used to hang out with Hollywood elites and dine with the likes of Harrison Ford. And though through that he he learned that all the Hollywood folks were actually America hating globalist commies. Seeing this, the new Ford movie crossing over made him reflect on those days. And he opened up the paper, he you know,

Jordan (00:30:34.000)

so he's the only person who cared about the movie crossing. Oh, yeah.

Dan (00:30:38.000)

Okay, it made him wistful for those days dined with Harrison for one, one guy, so he opened up the newspaper one day, sure. After I had put quotes after I had posted the story about Ford, I ran into an op ed piece on the LA Times how Jewish is Hollywood? In it, the Jewish author proves that Jews do in fact control Hollywood share. The Op Ed he's talking about as a satirical op ed written by noted humorous Joel Stein, the article launches off from an ADL poll that found that only 22% of Americans thought Jews controlled Hollywood, right. And Joel thought that number was way too low. Yeah, one of the tip offs that maybe this isn't an article you should be taking as a sincere source about anything is the clear humor base tone, like in this part, quote, I've taken it upon myself to reconvince America that Jews run Hollywood by launching a public relations campaign because that's what we do best. I'm weighing several slogans including Hollywood more Jewish than ever Hollywood from the people who brought you the Bible. And Hollywood if you enjoy TV and movies, then you probably like Jews, after all. He's clearly just look at the body of Joel Stein's work. rediculous. Yeah, yep. So also towards

Jordan (00:31:50.000)

any evidence that satire means nothing. It's that people on the people who you're satirizing are like, I can't believe I can't believe they would say something true like this.

Dan (00:32:00.000)

Yeah. Also, it's worth noting that at the bottom of Spencer's article, he links to an article called, quote, understanding Jewish influence by a guy named Kevin McDonald, who's a real anti semitic piece of shit. McDonald once wrote, quote, Christianity was an uncontested part of public culture until large scale Jewish immigration in the early 20th century, the immigration laws were biased in favor of Europeans until 1965, when the long Jewish campaign to change them finally succeeded.

Jordan (00:32:28.000)

Wow. And that's how kids in the hall came about. Hmm.

Dan (00:32:33.000)

The reference to 1965 is about the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, which many called the heart cellar act. This Immigration Reform Act got rid of the national origins based quota that was in place previously, much of the ideology for the quota system was based on the then popular ideology of eugenics and was meant to ensure an overwhelming white majority in the US population. Yeah, continuously. Yeah, the new paradigm of immigration admissions was not designed to create a non white majority in the US. In fact, there were attempts to place stipulations in the bill that they thought would limit the ability of the bill to increase non white immigration, there were various little things that were slipped in. But in the end, it turned out there were a lot of people from the eastern hemisphere that were wanting to come here and we're being barred from doing so based on blood quotas. And now that these blood quotas were gone, they were trying to come in to the land of opportunity. Anyway, the reason I bring this up is that it's a really big conspiracy and white nationalist and neo Nazi circles that the Jews plan to use the heart cellar act to bring in masses of non white people to the United States as an attack on the white population. It's a piece that's behind the great replacement ship ideas. Yeah, anyway, this is clearly McDonald's point. And this implicates Glenn Spencer fairly heavily because his primary issue is harassing immigrants at the border. He has no relevance to any public conversation except in terms of immigration issues. So to see his article using Kevin McDonald as a source on how to understand Jewish influence, it's hard to believe that he doesn't also subscribe to some of MacDonald's ideas about the Jewish influence on immigration law. Yeah, my point is that Glen Spencer is at best a white nationalist who used a Joel Stein column he didn't get to justify publishing his own anti semitic Drash all in all pretty perfect guests for Alex Yeah, right on board with the info war.

Jordan (00:34:25.000)

Yep. Yep. sucks a little a little too too much in the wheelhouse and guess what's in the it's right, it's belt high. He's belt high,

Dan (00:34:34.000)

slow ball and guess what? He's the second worst border vigilante we're going to talk about today.

Jordan (00:34:40.000)

Great Great. Great Great. Yeah, great. Yep. I love people who are like this arbitrary made up line of land that we stole from another country is mind by right and I'll kill people for it. Makes perfect sense. wouldn't like that. Oh, no, it makes perfect sense.

Dan (00:34:57.000)

Now, I always like to see the positive and people Why don't put okay, my No. And I actually agree with you trying to set up a humorous premise. Much like Joel Stein might sit directly. So I'm trying to say something positive about glad Spencer. And that is he is one of the only guests that I've ever seen show up on Info Wars with clips ready? Oh,

Jordan (00:35:21.000)

shit, he's he's done a homework. He plays a clip. He's done a homework show.

Dan (00:35:25.000)

He's complaining about the former president of Mexico. And he has a clip.

Glenn Spencer (00:35:30.000)

And what we have been talking about you and I've been talking about for years, is the Mexican conquest of the Southwest. The conquest of Athlon.

Alex Jones (00:35:40.000)

And their president say that now,

Glenn Spencer (00:35:43.000)

yes, in the land, they all leave it. Here he is. Here is the president of Mexico, they just that proudly affirm that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders. And that Mexican migrants are an important, a very important part of that was then President Nestos the deal of Mexico 1997 speaking in Chicago,

Jordan (00:36:15.000)

I think 97

Dan (00:36:16.000)

I think Glenn's doing a better job of hosting than Alex's now there are worse. Yeah. So I went and I watched this whole speech and the part of the Glenn is using here is wildly out of context. He was talking about how the Mexican government has a duty to help protect the rights of immigrants to the United States from Mexico and how he had just championed legislation to allow immigrants from Mexico to retain their Mexican citizenship, even if they pursue American citizenship. Yeah, that's such a really smart and good Glenn's interpretation of this as an admission that the former Mexican president wanted to use immigrants to re colonize the Southwest is way off base. It's a lesson formed by this speech and more by his flagrant hatred of non white immigrants.

Jordan (00:36:57.000)

Yeah, you can't really recolonize something that you didn't colonize

Dan (00:37:04.000)

the first in the first place, but has been colonized and Right,

Jordan (00:37:08.000)

right. So you would be uncolonized in it. So that would probably undercut his argument that they were that they're doing bad.

Dan (00:37:15.000)

I don't think he would hear that argument. I don't think you would either. And we would be able to figure that out, but he died fairly recent. So

Jordan (00:37:21.000)

let me ask you a question, sir. Okay, so if Mexico does take, let's say, New Mexico, they take New Mexico, right. Okay. You would be mad that they took what you thought was your land. Right? And you would want to take it back? Shouldn't

Dan (00:37:38.000)

Alex really want to change the name of New Mexico? You would think? Or maybe he thinks it's like a like a? Like a haha, we got the New Mexico as part of us,

Jordan (00:37:50.000)

it does feel a little bit weird. For us to also have a state that's called New Mexico and be like no Mexicans here. It's very weird. Well, that's

Dan (00:37:59.000)

the way Alex I'm glad Spencer want it. Yep. Anyway, Glenn sucks.

Glenn Spencer (00:38:04.000)

Mexico has never had immigration. They've never been a melting pot, they've never never brought in new ideas. And the one thing that ties the Mexicans together that makes the Mexicans is a common history. And they say once the Mexican, always a Mexican. And one of the aspects of that history that stands out like and nothing else is the war with the United States. So, in essence, what they want to do is regain the glory of Mexico and regain the glory of their, their their ancestors, by Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and making this the great and glorious Mexico that they think it should be. Well, we

Alex Jones (00:38:45.000)

just came in as an Empire took over some Indians Cry some land claim parts of Texas finances and Seamus belongs to them. But either

Glenn Spencer (00:38:54.000)

way, Mexico for a while, you know.

Dan (00:38:56.000)

So it's worth it's worth noting that Glenn is not talking about the Mexican government here. He's talking about the population only having war with the United States as their shared his history to take on as an identity. This is obvious nonsense, but it's also worth pointing out that it's a tactic that Glen is using to justify his racism is some kind of a defensive mechanism. It's pathetic. Yeah, no,

Jordan (00:39:17.000)

no, it makes sense to be like, Oh, the only thing they have is shared history is you war with the United States says I to bet 3000 year old culture.

Dan (00:39:26.000)

Also, it's just an unsolvable riddle why a colonized people in a former colonizing country would feel differently about their connection to a particular place. It's a real mystery why France wouldn't still be claiming that Mexico is a part of France, but people from Mexico might still have some feelings of ownership over Texas that was formerly

Jordan (00:39:45.000)

a word does feel we never get to the bottom of this one. It is one of those where you're like, oh, man, not even not even Bernard blank or whatever his name is.

Dan (00:39:55.000)

Glass on Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Jordan (00:39:58.000)

Yeah, man Werner.

Dan (00:39:59.000)

But that is not I'm having a fancy.

Jordan (00:40:03.000)

I've been having a day I understand Yeah, yoga. Yeah.

Dan (00:40:08.000)

So look there's a lot of things that characterize Alex and one of them is making things up.

Alex Jones (00:40:15.000)

Did you know that they allow Cinco de mio to be officially celebrated it up but not the Texas independent today? I don't allow it talking.

Glenn Spencer (00:40:24.000)

This is the this is this is the kind of insanity that took over Nazi Germany except in reverse.

Dan (00:40:34.000)

It's so fun. Like for Alex just make shit up to pander to his audience that's desperately addicted to feeling like they are victims because they're white. The aggrievement is just spectacular and so powerful. For what it's worth the tower on campus, UT Austin, the big huge tower. It's lit with special lights and a giant Texas flag flies on the pavilion for Texas independence. And they celebrated that holiday for a long fucking time. Yeah, that sounds right. This is such an awesome story. Okay, in 1896, Jr, law school students at UT Austin, which at that time the entire school had 482 enrolled students. Ah, so these Jr. Law students were pissed that it was a holiday and they still had to be in class. Yeah, so they decided to skip in honor of Texas independence day. The next year, they tried to get the school to officially recognize the holiday and let them out of class. But the then president of the university was from North Carolina and didn't understand dynamics. So the students went and borrowed a cannon that was in front of the state capitol. Sure, which is it's pretty close to campus. If you don't know the geography. Yeah, they brought the cannon to campus where they plan to do a 21 gun salute for Texas independence with one cannon, it would take a while. I'll just read to you how that went from an article on the university's website. Quote, just before sunrise on March 2 The the students arrived for their celebration only to find a large nail had been driven into the ignition hole of the cannon. It took some time and the employment of several pocket knives to remove the item. By then Winston, who's the then president at the school had arrived and was rather unhappy unhappily resigned to the fact that the students were going to celebrate hoping hoping to minimize the damage to the class day Winston asked the laws the law school students sure to move the cannon away from the main building down the hill to the university's athletic field. Or they could wait until after noon to have their fun

Jordan (00:42:31.000)

Excuse me. pause real quick. Sorry what you're gonna shoot off on cannon? Sorry What? Yeah, here's our problem with the cannon. Wrong time runs out day run time of day for

Dan (00:42:42.000)

this 1897 I get it. I get it, starting at 9:30am and otherwise peaceful morning was interrupted by a series of cannon blasts. Sure, the entire law department attended including Batson Professor John towns, and following the cannon fire each person gave a short but sincere patriotic speech. Meanwhile, a distracted academic department continued to hold classes as best they could. The laws though weren't going to allow Texas independence day to pass without including the rest of the university. Of course, I 1pm the cannon was positioned in front of the main building facing the Capitol. Sure the first blast quote threatened to break every window in the building. Yep, yeah. All at once the academics vacated their classrooms and joined the laws outside and the scene of the morning was repeated with more speeches from students and professors. Okay, awesome.

Jordan (00:43:33.000)

So okay, so now so I recognize that when Mark said TV is the opiate of the masses, he was criticizing it on the other hand, this is what happens if you don't have TV. I thought if you don't have TV, someone's gonna fire a cannon 21 time when you're gonna happen when you

Dan (00:43:48.000)

said marks I heard Mark and I thought you meant Mark Bankston marks when our buddy Bankston was quoted as the phrase so in all the chaos the president of the school had gone home, like I'm out of here Yeah, fuck this noise. And so what the students learned that he had left they might went to his house of course they did SR that he made a speech again, they don't have TV. Yeah, he's opening line from that speech that he was forced to give outside his house by the students who had stolen the candidate Okay. To campus right protects us. Independence Day begins as this quote, I was born in the land of liberty rocked in the cradle of liberty nursed on the bottle of liberty and I've had liberty preached to me all my life. But Texas University students take more liberty than anyone I've come in contact with. What a fucking awesome story. Yeah, it's a shame that Alex can't enjoy that without admitting that he's a lying pile of shit who just makes things up to inflame anti immigrant sentiment in his audience. It's so great story. Alex didn't say that UT doesn't allow people to celebrate Texas independence day because he knew that as a fact or even had any solid backing to make the claim. He said it because it feels right to him that the students wouldn't be allowed To do that at school, right, the school would outlaw This,

Jordan (00:45:03.000)

of course, because every one is geared towards hating white people no matter what.

Dan (00:45:08.000)

Yeah, the climate of his narratives is one where white people are under attack and immigrants and non white people are given special treatment. Thus he takes every opportunity to throw out examples of the dynamic regardless if they're real or not. And let's not forget what's behind Alex's desire to create this narrative climate it's racism and xenophobia. Don't stop Yeah, that's why he's coming up with this bullshit lie. When in reality I feel like he could incorporate into his worldview how cool it is that these guys

Jordan (00:45:37.000)

they're fucking rattles the rebels man. That's

Dan (00:45:39.000)

Texas. That's

Jordan (00:45:40.000)

the goal of Texas. You know? Yeah, I liked that

Dan (00:45:44.000)

night the Stars Shine Bright. I think doctor I think

Jordan (00:45:48.000)

rinsing Yeah, I think I accidentally said something that makes perfect sense in the real world, which is that reference? No. Oh, shit. Yeah, God, Spencer. Sorry. It's I've told you I'm having a day.

Dan (00:46:03.000)

Well, these names are bigger to you.

Jordan (00:46:07.000)

Yeah. But no, he said, it's like, it's like what happened to Nazi Germany in reverse, which, in a certain sense, makes sense. Because it's not an expansionist, racist, destructive situation. And the bad guys are on the other side. Like Glenn Spencer, so Spencer accidentally is like, we're like Nazi Germany in the right way. You know, Nazis.

Dan (00:46:32.000)

Oh, man. Yeah. Fair enough. But I'm still stuck on this story. And just imagining Alex saying that to somebody who's aware of like, UT history, and like, What the fuck are you talking about?

Jordan (00:46:43.000)

How long was that story? What how long was that story? I

Dan (00:46:46.000)

don't know. I mean, like, if you wrote it out, probably like a page. Yep.

Jordan (00:46:49.000)

Can't read it. Nope. He'll never know.

Dan (00:46:50.000)

I'll never know. I'll give you a headline. UT students pretty cool at the end of at home. Really?

Jordan (00:46:55.000)

Totally. That's as good as he's gonna get. He can't read a story is interesting. Is that without shitting his pants.

Dan (00:47:01.000)

So Glen Spencer, we bid adieu to him or goodbye because he only likes English. Yeah, but we get another guest. And that's Joel Skousen. Who's obviously we know, royalty of the anti communist ever to have him being the nephew of W Cleon. Skousen here and a long time even fairly to the present day, although not maybe as regularly now as he has been in the past. But a guest who goes through all of our

Jordan (00:47:27.000)

ya know, his his vet many different eras. I'm

Dan (00:47:30.000)

not certain I've seen him in this era in 2003. Yet, or much of maybe you've seen him once or twice, but I don't remember it. And that made me really excited. Because I'm like, Hey, sure. I've got this familiar face. We got early Skousen. But then I realized he's so fucking boring. And it was just sour grapes. Oh, no, it was just like

Jordan (00:47:51.000)

he didn't have he didn't like have heat in his youth. He's still boring. It's from the entire time. brutal, brutal.

Dan (00:47:58.000)

But here's Alex's introduction for him, which I think is literally impossible.

Alex Jones (00:48:03.000)

There's so much news. We're joined by Joel Skousen. He'll skeleton is a political scientist by training, specializing in philosophy and law and constitutional theory. He's also the designer of high security residences, and retreats. He's a design self sufficient and high security homes throughout North America as consultant in Central America as well. And he's also a fighter pilot. Sorry, what Nam?

Dan (00:48:26.000)

There were no planes. No planes in Vietnam not be a fighter pilot.

Jordan (00:48:30.000)

already. I'm out. Yeah. Out on scarves and yeah, bullshit. Resume.

Dan (00:48:36.000)

Yeah. CV fraud bullshit, right? Yeah. I am also surprised Alex didn't take the opportunity to bring that up. I had to call her not too long ago. Planes you were in one of

Jordan (00:48:49.000)

them. Right? That's like a regular thing.

Dan (00:48:51.000)

I keep thinking about it. I mean, either, but Alex doesn't bring it up. You should. Yeah, it's cows and all that stuff in those credentials are mostly like he tells people how to bug out.

Jordan (00:49:01.000)

Yeah. So he's, he's educated in philosophy, law and political science. But his real talent is in designing security system

Dan (00:49:13.000)

if you want a bunker, right? Yeah.

Jordan (00:49:15.000)

That's an interesting pivot.

Dan (00:49:17.000)

No, I mean, I think that's a lot. Like that's been a part of his career all along. Okay. He's just, he's a guy who's like, shits gonna go down eventually. And you're gonna need to hide in a hole sure to make that hole.

Jordan (00:49:28.000)

That's what I learned from political science class. Yeah.

Dan (00:49:32.000)

So anyway, he's boring as hell yeah. The only thing worth mentioning is that he could not possibly have been a fighter pilot, because there's no plane, no planes. So from here we jump to the 12. And Alex, US wants to complain about Tony Blair, the head of the UK. Yeah. Go for it. Blair said he would quit. If people came up with some stuff that he was wrong about Yeah, so now Alex is saying why haven't you quit? That's a good question. Hey, that's a question maybe that needs an answer.

Alex Jones (00:50:07.000)

And then again last week, he said that was the Dr. David Kelly inquiry, that if anything bad came out there, he would resign. But again, as bad stuffs already come out, why hasn't he resigned? I mean, bad stuff came out about no Tony Blair and the death of Dr. David Kelly before

Dan (00:50:45.000)

at least it's a different song.

Jordan (00:50:46.000)

It is a different song. It

Dan (00:50:47.000)

is the renegade Yeah.

Jordan (00:50:51.000)

It's not my song, but it's a good song.

Dan (00:50:53.000)

Also probably royalty free. Yeah, this is happening a bit now.

Jordan (00:50:58.000)

Even seems like the globalists are starting to take the pictures seriously.

Dan (00:51:02.000)

I think either Alex is the subject of a wire cutting attack that mysteriously the wires replaced every day, right? I guess. Or, yeah, he really needs to do something about this tech. Yeah, it's weird that it's always at the beginning of the show. That is weird. That is strange. I don't know if that makes me think it's more likely sabotage or less like

Jordan (00:51:28.000)

I feel like it's more likely because it's early on the show. It's more likely a producer is not great. Until and then the like they fuck up the levels over and over again. They're I think they're just bad at

Dan (00:51:42.000)

it. I would I would suspect that it's something production base. Yeah. happening about the same time on these episodes.

Jordan (00:51:50.000)

Honestly, maybe their Wi Fi is just bad. 2003 was terrible.

Dan (00:51:54.000)

Now this is all wired. Or there's a wire that goes from Texas. to Minnesota. Yeah, I gotcha. So Alex comes back. He doesn't say this is a conspiracy. And he's also not chill. He's nothing he pretends it didn't happen. It didn't happen. Yeah. All right, that's new. And now it's time to talk about the Project for a New American Center share. Alex is really up in arms about this.

Alex Jones (00:52:18.000)

We have them all. And dozens and dozens and dozens or several 100. Tina reports. And I've probably read or scan through about 60 or 70 of them. I spent many hours reading PDF documents. Every time I find some new, indescribable har, we'll post a link to the PDF document from Pina AX own website project for New American Century. And then we'll watch it in the next few days and weeks developing the major news stories is the mainstream media, the Associated Press Reuters got that news service Knight Ridder are so lazy, I have to go out and write an analysis of Patriot Act, I have to go out and find some sections of build you as listeners do that. Time and time again. You'll see it on the so called Alternative Media, six months, two years, five years before you see it in the mainstream news. So what is P knack? It was Bush's kind of exploratory residential committee that was formed in 1997 that wrote some of his most chilling forecast and wishes and plans in 2000. And in rebuilding America's defenses written by Cheney and Rumsfeld, different documents on the Penang website here are our collaborative efforts by different members of this administration, and surrounding think tanks, phony neocon think tanks. And I say word for word Saddam is not a threat. But he is a convenient pretext to get the oil and to use Iraq is a new military base of operations that go into Syria and Iran.

Dan (00:54:04.000)

I guess it's probably true that the Project for the New American Century probably did put out dozens if not hundreds of papers in their time, but there's zero chance that Alex has read more than one of them. And even that is suspect. The only thing he knows about is the only specific that he ever brings up, which is that rebuilding America's defenses paper. Yeah, if Alex had any actual interest in that document, he would know that at the end of the paper, there's a list of all of the participants in the project meetings that led to the discussions that were then synthesized into this report. Neither training nor Rumsfeld is on that list, but there are names that Alex associates with P neck, so they must be involved in everything that the ship puts out. Yeah. document does not say that Saddam doesn't pose a threat and he's just a useful excuse to go in and get the oil and establish bases to go into Syria and Iran. Alex claims that they say that word for word which isn't even figuratively true. I think what Alex is misrepresenting is this passage from the document, quote, indeed, the United States has for decades sought to play more a more prominent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides an immediate justification, the need for a substantial American presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein. Okay. If you take that sentence in isolation, you may come away with the idea that Saddam is a piece of a larger puzzle. And that's pretty fair to the larger context of the paper, thinking that what the authors are saying is that Saddam isn't a threat and is just a boogeyman used to justify invasion. And plunder requires a reader to bring that preconception to the text itself. It's a practice of Eisah Jesus as opposed to exegesis, where you take the things that are in the text and pull them out. He's engaging in Eisah, Jesus, where you you have your own ideas, and you bring them to the text and experience like that's a good way to engage in like fiction review. And like creative works, you should discuss what the art evokes in you sure, it is not a good way to engage with this.

Jordan (00:56:09.000)

Alright, so in critical theory, authorial intent has gone out of favor, right. But in the in the in the nonfiction world, authorial intent, still very important, very important,

Dan (00:56:23.000)

right, because you're saying something, and it's not like, what this makes me feel is what they're saying. Exactly. That's Yes. Complicated. It's not complicated. It's very simple. Also, the word oil itself has never used in the paper. So I don't know where he's getting that. Syria is only mentioned once in this sentence, quote, according to the CIA, a number of regimes deeply hostile to America, North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Libya, and Syria already have or are developing ballistic missiles that could threaten us allies and forces abroad. That doesn't say they're planning to invade them. No, Orion has mentioned a bit more and often as a potential future adversary. But nowhere do they say that they need to use the DOM as an excuse to create a base in Iraq in order to evade.

Jordan (00:57:05.000)

Sure. I mean, it's it's fairly innocuous to say that Iraq is part of the larger Middle East, right. And that should be dealt with as a larger thing. Yeah. That's not complicated. No, that's very simple. Here's the

Dan (00:57:20.000)

larger point, though here. It's something that I've been stressing a bit lately, because I think it's important, you can make a valid and compelling argument against the worldview and ideas that are expressed in rebuilding America's defenses that document without lying about it. But to do that, you need to do some work, you have to read the document, you have to consider the arguments and formulate responses designed to show that the document itself is shit. That isn't super hard, but it's also not easy. Like it's not something that you can just make up on the fly. And it's also a bit boring for an audience that likes excitement. Yeah, instead of doing any of that stuff, Alex take shortcuts. He makes up more exciting storylines, about the document like that. It's a confession that Saddam wasn't a threat. And it was just about oil. Yeah, he attaches popular, exciting names to the document who have no direction direct connection to it, like Rumsfeld and Cheney. He establishes the document of some giant body of suppose that knowledge he has where he claims he's read a ton of peanut documents, and they're all full of horrors, yet, mysteriously, he's only ever brought up this one. Yeah, Alex takes these shortcuts, because he's not interested in the principle of opposing what's in that document. It's about the aesthetics of being against it, and about using the document to prop up the larger conspiracy worldview that he profits off of, it's important to understand this about his use of primary sources, because again, even if you rightly agree with him, that P neck sucks, you can't trust him to provide any real useful information to help you understand that subject, right? Imagine yourself in a conversation with someone who disagrees with you about this V neck document, if they know what they're talking about. And you repeat some of these claims that Alex has made about the paper, you've lost the debate immediately, you've been equipped with useless and false claims that make it more difficult for you to effectively push back against the agenda that's embodied by the Project for a New American Century, which is a real shame, because Alex pretends he's doing the opposite of that. Yeah, it's it's actually making it harder for you to be an effective person working for change. Right. And that is not not necessarily a coincidence. Like I don't I don't know how much of that is intentional, like disempowering his audience. Yeah, but it feels like he can't not be aware of it

Jordan (00:59:42.000)

reminds Do you know what it reminds me at honestly, reminds me, what do you does reminds me so much of my joke writing process where I would have I would have the premise and then I would have a punch line that I thought was good enough to work on right. And then I would go up and I would refer out the middle bit, you know, I would try and find stuff that gets the or maybe I'd find a tag, maybe I'd find a punch, you know, all that stuff. And then I'd edit it down until it was tight. He doesn't even do the second part. He just rips out where he wants to go until it gets there. Yeah, but and that's not learning,

Dan (01:00:12.000)

but it's also more serious than a joke. Yeah. Well, I

Jordan (01:00:16.000)

mean, he's a joke. Yeah. All I could

Dan (01:00:18.000)

think about what you were saying. That is like, I just had a flash

Jordan (01:00:22.000)

of how many terrible jokes I've written over the years. No,

Dan (01:00:25.000)

no, I don't hate your jokes. Just mine. Like, times when like, there have been a couple of times and there's this feeling comes back very viscerally of like being on stage and you have this, this this punch line that you think is gonna crush. And then you say it and there's no response and you realize that you missed a part of the setup. Oh, that Oh, worse. You guys would have got it. If I had that piece of information. The

Jordan (01:00:51.000)

worst feeling in the world is like you can't go back. No, no, I can't fix it. It's great. It sucks. It's also a great feeling, in a certain sense, because it's like, Hey, listen, you guys came here to have a good time. I came here to be funny. I made the mistake on this one. You guys are totally justified in not laughing I totally get it buddy. Those

Dan (01:01:10.000)

looks you're given me earned

Jordan (01:01:12.000)

Yeah, this is on me. This is on me. Sometimes it's on you. It is not

Dan (01:01:16.000)

a good feeling though. It makes more sense than like you doing everything perfectly. Right? Right, right. At least there's like okay, A to B to C we get right but still sucks feels like shit.

Jordan (01:01:27.000)

Yeah, cuz if you do the joke, right? And it doesn't work, then they don't like you. If they if you do the joke wrong and it doesn't work then you just fucked up that that's incompetent that feels that

Dan (01:01:37.000)

experience of doing the job right and them not liking you is basically how you would describe my entire career at the last second. Every time on stage,

Theme Song (01:01:48.000)

glaring at me. I

Jordan (01:01:49.000)

mean, listen, I'll tell you this club comic you are not doing

Dan (01:01:52.000)

and not not because I'm a comedians comedian. That's just

Jordan (01:02:00.000)

not there's there's there's tricks

Dan (01:02:03.000)

anyway. The penis document Alex has some more things to say about it, which are not true.

Alex Jones (01:02:08.000)

rebuilding America's defenses. 2000. What else is in that document? Dick Cheney talks about maybe we need to legitimize the use. He doesn't say maybe he says we need to legitimize the use of race specific bio weapons. Sounds weird to say out loud, minimize their use in the media, raise us civic bio weapons. I mean, what a little jewel that is. Can you imagine if you were I got on the radio or wrote a news article about how maybe we should develop race specific bio weapons and legitimize their use. I would expect that have the FBI. Mr. Jones, get out here. We got questions for you get out here. And we're knocking down the door to we had a real FBI desk. But no, we're not. We're not writing that. We're not doing that. We're fighting against that. But the vice president says we need to legitimize the use of race specific bio weapons with the public. There. Do you know what a race specific bio weapon is? I know most of you do. It's a bio weapon that kills certain races of people. Again, I mean, that's so evil. That's so out of control. So over, I don't have words to describe it.

Dan (01:03:25.000)

I have a word to describe it not true. It's not accurate. Again, it's this. If you think that this is true. And you approach anybody who knows anything about this, the buggy doesn't say that. That is not true. That is absolutely wrong. Hard. Yeah. Yeah, you are not You're not dealing with the text as it exists. Yeah. And so then you would be left in a situation where you'd have to become defensive and insist that it does exist. And in order to do that, you have to completely misrepresent passages of the text, or you have to wrestle with it, which is a little bit more difficult. And then you realize Alex is full of shit, and you can't listen to him and you can't rely on him. Yeah, to give you any accurate information. Yeah, that's what you should do.

Jordan (01:04:05.000)

Yeah. I mean, I feel like the easiest thing in the world is also one that is very difficult, which is if somebody comes to you with something that is structured like this, if I did this, I would be arrested instantly. And he gets away with it. There's a good chance that they didn't do it. Because they wouldn't get away with it. They would also be arrested.

Dan (01:04:32.000)

Yeah, a lot of the time that is especially when you're talking about advocating for a specific bioweapons when you're in that kind of a territory. Yeah, generally like

Jordan (01:04:41.000)

he's like so so a reasonable person has to respond to that.

Dan (01:04:45.000)

No pump the puck and brakes Alex would not be arrested for that

Jordan (01:04:48.000)

I use I think also is he against race specific bio weapons.

Dan (01:04:53.000)

I don't have particular I don't have evidence that he is for them. So I'm not gonna I'm not I agree with you there. That's fair. Well, Uh, it would be within his free speech to advocate for a specific bio weapons. He just couldn't be specific about it. Yeah. Be like, alright, Tuesday at four we're meeting to cook up so that, you know, incitement of it would be, you know, like, if Brandenburg versus Ohio is gonna get away with a lot,

Jordan (01:05:21.000)

right? And also like just to be just to be pretty clear about humanity. I don't think you could make a race specific bio weapon on account of we're all the same race.

Dan (01:05:34.000)

There are some problems with that. Yeah, but it doesn't stop racist for thinking about it. And,

Jordan (01:05:38.000)

in fact, I think that would probably be the best way to truly prove that there's no real difference between

Dan (01:05:46.000)

races do that to prove. I mean, that seems like a flawed plan,

Jordan (01:05:51.000)

right. But the 15 people left behind would have to be confronting the fact that there's no races well,

Dan (01:05:57.000)

they would get it. So we have another guest coming in here on the 12 character named Jack foot. This guy is a bad dude. He's the guy who started the Foot Clan. I

Jordan (01:06:08.000)

was about to make a foot clan joke you got there first. He is a ninja.

Dan (01:06:12.000)

He is You bastard. Yeah, he's the mortal enemy of the Ninja Turtles naturally. And boy, I can't believe Alex applied for him. No, I

Jordan (01:06:20.000)

tell you I mean later on he killed Master Splinter.

Dan (01:06:23.000)

Unbelievable. No, in reality, he's another border vigilante. Yeah, that sounds that sounds right. He sucks. He's the worst. Anyway, he's going to be coming on. Sure. And in advance of this. Alex gets a call from a guy who has a question about him. And it's, it's a problematic question.

Caller 1 (779) (01:06:42.000)

Well, I was listening to that ranch rescue guy on the National Alliance show and it's like pathetic that the government won't even help these poor people that are volunteering to try to keep these people out. It's like a dam bursting thrown on their private property and the government doesn't help them at all they're asking for donations which you know is pretty pathetic if that's the kind of border we have and

Alex Jones (01:07:10.000)

let's be clear that man All right, well, thank you for the call. I know Jack foot and Jack foot is know to talk to me on the phone. He's not a racist. And I would imagine he didn't know what show he was going on if he went on the National Relay.

Jordan (01:07:25.000)

Oh,

Dan (01:07:26.000)

yeah. The you know, the great classic excuse that this guy whose entire life is based on being a violent vigilante against immigrants on the southern border had no idea who the National Alliance was no clue that is very, very believable. Oh boy. I'm gonna just guess that this is the same excuse Alex is going to have for why this dude went on shows have noted bigots and anti Semites like clay Douglas and Hal Turner as well. That's Oh, he just didn't know any of them. Were

Jordan (01:07:50.000)

you know, he's he's like the racist Mr. Magoo, just kind of wandering on the shows and left and right. Yeah,

Dan (01:07:56.000)

Jack foot is going to be Alex's guest on this episode, and he's a real piece of shit. Just like Glen Spencer, who Alex had on the previous day's show foot has decided to be a vigilante and take policing immigration into his own hands. He was the head of a group called ranch rescue which is not at all like Bar Rescue. Instead of yelling at failing bar owners what foot would do is create militarized compounds on people's ranches and wait for immigrants to cross through the property at which point they were apprehended or kidnapped, depending on your perspective, terrorized, generally threatened with death often assaulted, and then turned over to law enforcement. Or at least that last step is what the group would like the story to be since there's no real way to tell if they didn't follow through on some of those death threats. Yeah, there are plenty of unsolved murders of border crossers, and as the ADL is reported, in many cases, when these immigrants have been found murdered, they are bound as if they had been apprehended. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Anyway, Foote may or may not be a murderer, but his group is absolutely in the business of terrorizing immigrants. As luck would have it ranch rescue terrorized the wrong people in March 2003 when they did their usual routine with a group of four Mexican immigrants on March 7, and then with to Salvadorans on March 18. These immigrants went on to sue and a judge ruled in their favor ordering foot to pay $500,000 and turning over possession of the 70 acre ranch. They were operating out of over to the Salvadoran Vic, hey, now that's the shit right? They took ownership of that ranch and had said that they're going to sell it and give the proceeds to immigrant charities. Good Jack foot sucks is group sucks and Alex is making a real pattern of platforming, elevating and promoting people who are actively terrorizing people at the border. He is desperate to to whitewash their associations with legit Nazis like he does here making up that foot must not have known who the National Alliance was the fuck out of here with that shit. Alex knows damn well that this dude knowingly went on that Nazi show. It's just not good for his brand to know that so he lies to the audience to get them to accept this bigot on false pretenses, right? Because he knows that there's at least some of the audience that doesn't want to recognize how closely associated they are with white supremacists and Nazis. Right.

Jordan (01:10:09.000)

Right. Right. You want to think he's above the left right paradigm instead of below it with the rest of the fucking Nazis? Yep. Yeah.

Dan (01:10:16.000)

So he foot is going to come on here in a little bit. But first, we get a call from Dan in Illinois. And Mayor traitor, Dan, this guy sucks. Yeah, but we're not gonna listen to his call. Alex is just going to discuss his call here. And it's just,

Alex Jones (01:10:31.000)

we were just talking to Dan in Illinois, and it'll go these other calls. Dan in Illinois was saying, Well, hey, you know, these corporations are so corrupt, using the government to control us. We've got to pass regulations to control them. But understand that you don't have the lobbyists, you don't have the pay off money. You don't have your people controlling the government, staffing the government. So if you try to get the government to pass regulations, they'll go okay. And they'll pass more regulations for you. The only way to stop these big corrupt corporations that are organized crime syndicates, not not free market is to restrict the size of state, local, federal international government, because those are the mechanisms of control. This should make perfect sense. But I was explaining that to Dan, and he still, I don't think completely got it,

Dan (01:11:22.000)

I get it. I get it. It's just stupid. Yeah, that's absolutely dumb. So what you'd want to do in order to reel in these corporations is decrease the power and ability of the government to reel in these corporations, because as soon as those corporations are free, and unfettered from these regulations, and the binds, that the government can put on them, right, they'll start doing the right thing, they won't they won't be the only unchecked power around you. I mean, you have to think of it this way. Do you think that fucking Elon Musk wouldn't have like his own army? If he could? Here's

Jordan (01:12:00.000)

what the way you got to think about it. Right? So if the government has power, then the government is ostensibly accountable to the people

Dan (01:12:07.000)

and who is the government, right people who are elected into these

Jordan (01:12:12.000)

are? And I think you're I think you're thinking of this backwards, because if we remove the power of the government, accountable by the people, ostensibly, and give all that power to corporations accountable to only their shareholders and other billionaires, then we are going to get a more equal society. Because in order for capitalism to work, it's a bad idea to inflict No, no, slavery is great for capitalism. Nevermind,

Dan (01:12:38.000)

they'll enslave people. Yes, that's, that's what they'll do. And he'll make slaves. But here's the great news. Yeah, if this one company enslaves a bunch of people, sure, you can just not buy their stuff. Right? The power of the dollar. Right. But

Jordan (01:12:51.000)

what if it was like Walmart?

Dan (01:12:53.000)

Building just don't go there?

Jordan (01:12:55.000)

Hmm. seems difficult.

Dan (01:12:57.000)

This is exactly the kind of dumb thinking that you would express if you were really just trying to map maximize corporate power. Yeah. While knowing that that's not popular among people. Yeah. So you want to give the pretense that like this will diminish corporate power, right? By removing one of the largest obstacles that stand in corporations way,

Jordan (01:13:23.000)

right? Because here's the thing, that's a tough sell. Okay, so here's Alex's real argument. Oh, great. I want slavery because I won't be a slave in this world. Right. That's a tough sell to the 99% of people who are going to be slaves. True. That's hard to that's hard to sell them on. Right.

Dan (01:13:39.000)

And the real issue is that there is ineffective and maybe not the best focused regulation of corporations. Yeah, that is being done by the government. Right? Not that regulation exists, right.

Jordan (01:13:55.000)

I mean, ironically, ironically, Alex got everything he wanted and Citizens United.

Dan (01:14:00.000)

Ironically, ironically, so time to join the foot. This guy sucks.

Alex Jones (01:14:07.000)

Well, for those who don't know what ranch rescue is, describe the organization what you do and we'll get into the Mexican troops firing at your members.

Jack Foote (01:14:14.000)

Briefly, ranch rescue is what the rights advocate and everything we're going to talk about today is available to your listeners on our website at WWW dot ranch rescue.com. We are conducting phase two of Operation Thunderbird here on private ranch. In Cochise County, Arizona. Your listeners may recall. Cochise County Arizona is the number one illegal border crossing point into the United States and has been for the past five years. On December 20th, our volunteers were conducting reconnaissance patrol, the southern part of our hosts land which is right up next to the border road. Mexican troops armed and in uniforms, OD green uniforms and OD green Kevlar helmet crossed on raw host property. And we're challenged verbally by our reconnaissance team, Mexican troops, there was about 10 of them, we estimate we know for certain there were two in the lead with AK 47 and RPK machine guns. The rest of them retreated back into the work line. And after they got themselves into a concealed position, they fired on our volunteers. Unfortunately, none of our volunteers were hit. I absolutely

Dan (01:15:26.000)

do not believe this.

Jordan (01:15:28.000)

Yeah, no, I wouldn't believe that. But even even if so yeah, cool. You Yeah. I mean, if you go out with guns, and somebody fires at you, you also have to take some responsibility for that.

Dan (01:15:39.000)

I don't believe that these Mexican troops. Were there.

Jordan (01:15:45.000)

I don't believe they existed either. Yeah. But even if they did, I don't believe he has the right to complain about it. I

Dan (01:15:51.000)

think it becomes far more complicated. Because why are they there? Are they there? Are offices of the Mexican government there by accident? Is it possible that they are like two feet over the border, they don't know where the border is totally the border. It's not like spray painted across the entire gun. It's an imaginary arbitrary line that we all pretend is real. There are some places where it probably could be like, I'm not sure where the line is. Exactly. So I mean, there's there's I don't know, I don't believe any of this happen. Yeah, but operation Thunderbird is pretty good.

Jordan (01:16:23.000)

Again, if you are doing an operation, Thunderbird, and someone shoots at you, you have it coming. You know, the only that is you. You earned it. You know,

Dan (01:16:31.000)

the only operation Thunderbird I like was when they recorded that song by Marc Cohn. The follow up to our mind or maybe it came up before the only other song I know by him other than walking in Memphis? Sure. Silver Thunderbird. Lord, I want to go down to Suva Thunderbird. It's a song about his dad's car.

Jordan (01:16:51.000)

Is it a heavy singing episode for you? Yeah. No.

Dan (01:16:54.000)

conscious about that.

Jordan (01:16:57.000)

You were like, Ooh, maybe maybe three is too many. The Rake effect is not in effect. Let

Dan (01:17:02.000)

me go back to rent.

Jordan (01:17:04.000)

Yeah, see, now we're back, baby.

Dan (01:17:06.000)

So Alex brings up the fact that he was interviewed on the National Alliance, right? Because he's a Nazi. Well, you gotta get this confirmation that he didn't know what he was doing out in front as being a Nazi. Well, I mean, it was brought up on the show earlier. So is answer isn't good.

Alex Jones (01:17:23.000)

Now, I know you've done a lot of radio interviews.

Jack Foote (01:17:26.000)

I heard one of your your listeners earlier asked about my interview on National Alliance? Oh, yes, I was about to pour the record. For the record. I am very aware. And I was aware of before I did this interview, the controversy that would happen for me being on this, this particular source. However, I was also interviewed by Hal Turner a couple of years ago. And on that same day, I was interviewed by CNN. I no more subscribed to the how Turner's viewpoint than I do the Ted Turner's viewpoint.

Dan (01:17:53.000)

That's all cute and all but there's a big difference between being on a Nazi show and being on CNN. Yeah, if you're being interviewed on CNN, odds are that it's at best a neutral interview. And at worst, if you're Jack foot, it's an adversarial interview that makes you out to be a crazy racist vigilante. Your presence on the network isn't going to be used to grow or help CNN, it's going to be an interview, right?

Jordan (01:18:15.000)

I mean, when we went on, we got Stelter fired, so CNN should not help anybody.

Dan (01:18:20.000)

Now conversely, if you go on the National Alliance radio show, you're going to be used to perpetuate Nazi shit. Your entire worldview is about how immigrants are an invasion coming into the country to attack the existing white population. And this conversation will be right at home and white supremacist and Nazis circles. You're not going to get a neutral interview there. In fact, you're going to be treated as a hero standing up for the white race. And it should come as no surprise that that's exactly how the National Alliance interview went. He was interviewed by national lions founder and Holocaust denier Kevin Alfred Strom, who was good friends with John Birch Society founding member revealed up all right, also strong went to jail after pleading guilty to possession of child exploitation material in 2008. So cool, great. The interview is downright fawning, and it ends with Strom saying this quote, it's the mission of the National Alliance to make the facts of this invasion and the racial and cultural change it represents known to white Americans and to translate that knowledge into political and social change. enforcing the law is not enough, though we must demand that it be enforced and I wish that ranch rescue was 10,000 times larger than it is now or that Mr. Foote ran the Border Patrol so it was done properly. The only solution that will work is when is white living space until we have our white living space. I'm glad we have men like Jack foot who are working within the system, though that system fights them at every turn to stop these criminals. You can just give me a break with this going on CNN is the same as being celebrated by Nazis bullshit. The only thing that Foote said in that last clip that matters at all is when he said he was aware of the National Alliance and what they believed when he agreed to be on that show. At that point he was consciously using his vigilante ism and almost certainly fake heroic stories about border confrontations to appeal to the white supremacy of their audience. Fuck you Jack foot I wish you were a ninja yeah I wish you just had killed Splinter I

Jordan (01:20:16.000)

wish that the Mexican army had showed up at that border

Dan (01:20:20.000)

this story is not true. So Alex is thinking like alright, well you got shot by these troops fake I'm gonna go ahead and you know leave that whole national lights thing on the side here. But you got shot by shot by these troops what happens next time man.

Alex Jones (01:20:37.000)

So what are your guys going to do the next time Mexican troops shoot at him? I know in Mexican troops for shoot and me I know what I do.

Jack Foote (01:20:43.000)

Now. Like I said I commend the individual Patrol team leader for his discretion in his restraint.

Dan (01:20:49.000)

So man so so restraint Yeah,

Jordan (01:20:51.000)

is really easy.

Dan (01:20:53.000)

It's weird how he spoke a little differently to the Nazis. From that other interview when he was asked how they deal with Mexican troops. He said, quote, we fire them up, no warning, no requests. If they're armed and in uniform, and obviously a foreign military unit then we open fire. So strange, almost like he knows how to tailor a different message to different audiences. Also, it's weird how this whole interview with Alex is about protecting America from illegal immigration at the border. But it doesn't come up how ranch rescue has one chapter outside the United States in South Africa. You better believe that comes up on foot his talking with the Nazis though. He even tells them quote, We are facing eventually the same sort of crime wave that was happening in Rhodesia in the 1970s. Oh, weird. Yeah, seems like maybe just maybe these folks are primarily racist vigilantes who like to make their action seem less despicable by pretending they're fighting a defensive battle against the Mexican military, when in reality, most of what they're doing is terrorizing and abusing scared vulnerable immigrants. Yeah.

Jordan (01:21:52.000)

Fuck you, Jack foot. Yeah, buddy. Ah, boy, I will tell you this. You're not the first person to say that white people need space. And the last time it happened, they took off fuck ton of space. So

Dan (01:22:07.000)

that was strong. To be fair, not fun. Just to be clear, well, fine, but just don't want to miss a tribute show up.

Jordan (01:22:13.000)

Fair enough. I would hate for that Nazi to be mistook as a Nazi.

Dan (01:22:19.000)

glass half full glass half full. So one thing that might be able to convince me that this confrontation with the Mexican military happened is if there was a police report that backed it up some sort of official documentation, you would think if the Mexican army attacked you that would be an international incident. Absolutely. At least it would probably require an explanation from the Mexican government now an apology some kind of a recompense. Yep. But unfortunately, they never called the police. Oh, surprise.

Alex Jones (01:22:50.000)

Did you make the police come out and do a report?

Jack Foote (01:22:53.000)

Not for this particular incident? There was no point to it. We didn't have any physical evidence yet. The Mexican army firing on us our volunteers who had been fired upon

Dan (01:23:01.000)

real quick, we had no physical evidence. What about the bullets?

Jordan (01:23:05.000)

Now you can't find bullets? They fired the bullets into a tree and the tree can't release the burrow. Alright, fine.

Jack Foote (01:23:15.000)

That would be not, but I'm

Alex Jones (01:23:17.000)

sure it's not like this didn't happen. And we have him running over fences. He says like, patrols seven miles and shooting their vehicles full of holes and killing people. Right?

Jack Foote (01:23:27.000)

We'll be happy to call sheriff of the county and bring them out here. This as soon as we've got something physical to show him now we either will capture these criminal terrorists vertically, or we will capture them. Why do you think they shot at you? Because they can they because they deserve and if they hit one of us, if they commit a murder inside the United States, they can run back into Mexico and Mexico will never extradite them to face either the life or the death penalty.

Alex Jones (01:23:54.000)

And then it makes it all also there's a government and this has been out there. I've talked to the one of the top border patrol people here in Texas. She's one of my dad's patients. He said oh yeah, there's a $200,000 bounty on border patrol. But bushes got their bushes down there and a love fest with the scent a fox right now,

Dan (01:24:12.000)

if there's any kind of a bounty on border patrol people it's not coming from the president of Mexico. Yeah, that's ridiculous. So I thought your dad was a CIA dentist now apparently top border. It's amazing how many people go to him for dental camp

Jordan (01:24:26.000)

a lot of hats.

Dan (01:24:27.000)

It's almost it's almost like Alex just has a real convenient excuse for how he gets all this intel from top level people. Yep, they all go to get dentistry from my big, big strong, smartest boy in Texas dad

Jordan (01:24:39.000)

doesn't matter. Fucking bullshit. Doesn't matter if there's there's stuff in their mouth. They're still given out secrets to the dentist. They can't help themselves.

Dan (01:24:48.000)

And look, I think that there is a possibility that if somebody who was just a civilian person related to the Mexican government, yeah came across the board. Murder and shot someone and then disappeared back into Mexico. Right? That would be difficult rest of all figuring out who they are would be difficult. Second of all, extradition might be complicated even if they did figure out who they were right if it was a member of the Mexican military in fatigues you in like formation with other military members, it would be a gigantic deal. Oh, yeah, you would not just be able to dip across the border in less there was an active military attack being carried out by Mexico, which the United States would then have to resolve it wouldn't be it would be war

Jordan (01:25:36.000)

big deal. Maybe it wouldn't be war, but if you close it wouldn't be war, but there would have to be like all the posturing there would have to be all bullshit to make them not look weak or whatever the fuck dumb shit they would

Dan (01:25:47.000)

do. It would be a gigantic deal. Oh my god. Anyway, fuck you, Jake foot you suck.

Jordan (01:25:52.000)

It's so funny how much I remember from this time period, like the blood thirstiness with which everyone was treating quote unquote, terrorists. And everybody's like, well, you can't be mean to these guys. They're that What? What? Why would we be unhappy with terrorists who live inside our borders and terrorize people that we don't like? Yeah, fucking care.

Dan (01:26:12.000)

I think I think a lot of people had a difficult time, dis associating themselves from terrorists that they would associate with, you know, same thing with that Jack Bauer nonsense of torturing on 24 And what have you totally not dealt with emotionally or ethically the same way that if it wasn't someone that you as a white American associated with being on your side, right? Be more complicated.

Jordan (01:26:36.000)

I mean, it seems so silly, considering we celebrate terrorism once a year as a national holiday, Arbor Day. That's our best.

Dan (01:26:48.000)

So we have one last clip here. And as I promised, yeah, fantastic clip and that is because Jack foot is gone. And Alex takes calls to close the show. Hey, Mike down for this. Okay, because

Jordan (01:26:57.000)

this is you've teased it out. We're finally here. This is here we go. Unbelievable.

Glenn Spencer (01:27:03.000)

Now the thing I wanted to mention was you mentioned about glitch. Recently, I saw WWE had a wrestling setup where they went over to Iraq. In the background, they're panning through the crowd of soldiers watching the wrestling. And there's two or three guys holding up a sign that says bush 316.

Alex Jones (01:27:27.000)

Okay, and what does that mean? I think it's a biblical reference. I believe it is to just a little odd John 316 or but it was actually Bush B 16. Or is it Romans that did it? Job? Why And What is it 16 Say?

Caller 1 (779) (01:27:48.000)

I think to know the sun Oh yeah.

Jordan (01:27:57.000)

Oh yeah. No, no. No, no. All Christians can go fuck themselves. Fuck all of you. All of you. Go fuck yourselves. Go fuck the book. Fuck you. If I know more about the goddamn book that somebody's screaming about how it's okay to kill trans people. Neighbors pocketbook neighbors. Sorry. Sorry.

Dan (01:28:16.000)

The righteous indignation there, though. I, I was speechless that he's like, Wait, is that Romans? Like that's, that's no, unbelievable. No. And also that he doesn't know Austin 316 says I just kicked you Ray.

Jordan (01:28:31.000)

I mean, he doesn't know about stone, at the very least note John 316.

Dan (01:28:35.000)

But shouldn't he have been previously mad about stone cold? Like, doing Scripture as his catchphrase? Stone Cold Steve Austin was one of the biggest cultural phenomenon, like wrestling that was at its peak. Yeah, everyone was talking about how it's degenerate for these DX people to do the Sukkot

Jordan (01:28:56.000)

De Beer to this man and he crushed it and chugged the.

Dan (01:29:01.000)

He's a monster, the Texas rattlesnake. character. He's right in Alex's wheelhouse. And he should have been furious that he his whole catchphrase and all the shirts that everyone wore us at Austin 316. I mean, it's obviously yes, it's obvious and Alex doesn't know that. But then also doesn't know Trump

Jordan (01:29:21.000)

hates own I just can't I just can't I just can't know more about your fucking book than

Dan (01:29:26.000)

you did that live up to my tea?

Jordan (01:29:29.000)

I did. It's pretty good. I'm curious. I'm furious beyond all reason. Like I'm you can see me holding my hand up like this. Yeah, I'm furious. It's great. Oh my god. Also, I'm furious about the bush 316 to the but I can't go back 20 years and do something about it. So

Dan (01:29:49.000)

talking about USO shows and stuff like that. Yeah, a little bit of jingoism is going to be what are

Jordan (01:29:55.000)

we what are you going to escape it? I felt like everybody's gonna be like crunchy Asimov's objector 316 That's not going to happen

Dan (01:30:01.000)

right and if you want sanity sure nuance sure don't go to the WWE

Jordan (01:30:08.000)

probably not the best place for it the right back is from the future and he drinks fear I get it

Dan (01:30:17.000)

right back hasn't been around for a long time. No are you referencing future interesting and if that's the storyline I'm not going to be able to accept that move right back was around to 2004 either Huh, that's fair. Anyway, look, here's the deal. I would love to hear what Alex thinks about the Saudi Arabian shows that

Jordan (01:30:36.000)

that is kind of now I want to hear more about I want to hear him riff more about stuff he doesn't know about crown

Dan (01:30:41.000)

jewel is

Jordan (01:30:43.000)

yeah, if you're gonna make stuff up do it about wrestling. That's great. You'll get a storyline in five years

Dan (01:30:49.000)

but here's the problem Yeah, Alex doesn't make anything up here he's just confused by this which is sad

Jordan (01:30:59.000)

you shot so loved the world. It's about as good as I can do with you should

Dan (01:31:03.000)

have got really defensive about Jake the Snake Eyes Jake the Snake was super religious. He would have

Jordan (01:31:08.000)

gotten really offended about not knowing the fundamental fucking

Dan (01:31:14.000)

verse. It is the most popular verse but see at the King of the Ring tournament right Stone Cold beat Jake the Snake and Jake the Snake was fairly religious person at this time sure character. Yeah, so when he was given a promo afterwards, John 316 may save the first Oh God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son, but also three sixteenths as I just whipped her eyes. Okay, that's pretty good. And that's how the catchphrase started. Pissed off all of that's perfect. teleclass Perfect.

Jordan (01:31:41.000)

Well, Oh, yeah. Well done. Steve stone cold.

Dan (01:31:45.000)

Yep. And they he inspired a generation

Jordan (01:31:51.000)

he did something he had an impact this and he Stone Cold had a full on cultural impact that I think people do kind of a little bit underplay. No,

Dan (01:32:02.000)

it's, it's something we'll have to wrestle with. No pun intended. Exactly. In the future. Anytime anybody hears glass break, you just look around hopefully you're about to get stung that

Jordan (01:32:13.000)

that I haven't watched wrestling. I have not watched wrestling much in 20 years and I still remember the exact sound of glass breaking I know that I know that sound effect I've heard it in other shit since then are a bit like stone cold is gonna show and

Dan (01:32:28.000)

they've Pavlovian Lee trained that like when that glass breaks and the someone's about to get their ass kicked out. Someone's in trouble. Totally. Ah, anyway. Oh, good. Alex didn't know about Austin 360 and John 316 Again,

Jordan (01:32:43.000)

every Christian could go fuck themselves up. I can't believe this. I'm so mad. I'm so mad. Don't blame every Christian for Allah. It's not their fault. It's not their fault their

Dan (01:32:55.000)

look just because Alex is a phony sort of representative of a group doesn't mean that all people who are members of that group deserve the decision that you should direct it Alex. So I would just say calm down not fight. Fight. Anyway, this is the brings us to the end of our our little 2004 jaunt.

Jordan (01:33:18.000)

Man, you did not over a you did not over to use that clip

Dan (01:33:22.000)

that clips amazing. And it's it's that's gonna

Jordan (01:33:25.000)

stick with me as much as the there are no planes over Vietnam. He doesn't know Austin 316. And there were no planes over Vietnam. He doesn't know John three, just probably born. Now I've let that one go. Okay, you've convinced me to let that one go. Fair enough. So that's what I've got. I think even more

Dan (01:33:41.000)

interestingly, though, is this. Clearly there's a season going on, or a little bit of an arc of just a lot of agitation against immigrants. And yep, it's pretty gross. And you can see very clearly like these people that he has on who are people who are on the ground terrorizing immigrants. Yep. They are people who have very direct associations with Nazis. And this is 2004. Alex, the his career has always been in that lane. And people would be wise to recognize that

Jordan (01:34:18.000)

yeah, it's just you know, it's it's really hard to have have this from like, 20 years ago, because it is just like, oh, every time they want something, they just blame a new group. They just pick Oh, today it's immigrants. We hate them. They're all evil. Let's kill them at the border. Tomorrow. It's gay people we hate them. They should never be married. Let's kill them. There's the next day it's trans people talk them all

Dan (01:34:45.000)

just kill them union scapegoating of groups that they feel they can get away with demonized over

Jordan (01:34:50.000)

and over and over again and that people don't recognize the pattern drives me fucking insane.

Dan (01:34:56.000)

Yeah, yeah. Well, hopefully one day anyway. We'll be back, Jordan. Indeed we will. But until then we have website we do. It's now the tribe.com. Yes.

Jordan (01:35:05.000)

We also are on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight. Yeah, we'll be

Dan (01:35:09.000)

back. But until then, I'm Neil. I'm Leo MD ZX Clark. I am going to get this as a family crest. Oh, you know what?

Andy In Kansas (01:35:17.000)

And now here comes the sex robots. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.