Transcript/734: October 9, 2022

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Alex Jones (00:00:04.000)

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Dan (00:00:58.000)

Hey, everybody welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

Jordan (00:01:02.000)

I'm Jordan

Dan (00:01:02.000)

We're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

Jordan (00:01:07.000)

Oh, Indeed, we are Dan.

Dan (00:01:10.000)

Jordan.

Jordan (00:01:10.000)

Dan

Dan (00:01:11.000)

JorDan.

Jordan (00:01:11.000)

Quick question for you.

Jordan (00:01:12.000)

What's up

Jordan (00:01:13.000)

What's your bright spot today buddy?

Dan (00:01:14.000)

My bright spot today Jordan is I took a little walk down to the mailbox to drop off some buttons that will be making their way all around this great world of ours. And I'm walking back walking back to my house. I see a corner store. Right I'm gonna go wander in there see if I can find a good snack.

Jordan (00:01:32.000)

What where was it?

Dan (00:01:34.000)

Hmm? On the corner.

Jordan (00:01:34.000)

Oh okay

Dan (00:01:35.000)

Right on the corner.

Jordan (00:01:36.000)

Good news.

Dan (00:01:36.000)

Very easy to find

Jordan (00:01:38.000)

Excellent.

Dan (00:01:38.000)

Fits its name

Jordan (00:01:39.000)

important for a corner store.

Dan (00:01:41.000)

Yes. So I go in looking for a snack. I love novelty. I love things that, I'm drawn to things that I haven't seen before of course, so I bought like this apple energy drink that I still haven't tried yet. But

Jordan (00:01:55.000)

wise, does it fear, does it make you fear?

Jordan (00:01:59.000)

What? I'm missing something

Jordan (00:02:01.000)

it seems fearful.

Dan (00:02:02.000)

Are you, I didn't know if there was a reference to something or if you're just asking me

Jordan (00:02:06.000)

asking you if you're afraid of it

Jordan (00:02:07.000)

I'm not afraid of it. Okay,

Dan (00:02:08.000)

I'm just I maybe need a specific mood for it. Actually, I'm not feared I'm not I'm not scared. I'm worried that it's gonna suck a little bit. But I also got this is my bright spot these Arizona, Arnold Palmer half and half fruit snacks

Jordan (00:02:27.000)

those wound up being your brightspot

Dan (00:02:29.000)

Well, here I want you to try one I'll explain why it's my brightspot

Jordan (00:02:33.000)

All right, I need to

Dan (00:02:34.000)

so you, almost people don't listen to who, people who are just listening to this don't know but almost every time we do an episode, you have an Arnold Palmer half and half iced tea. Indeed I do. And so I saw these oh my god Jordan would probably be interested in this. And so I I looked at the packaging and I couldn't tell what the fuck it was. Because this is you know, an Arnold Palmer is half lemonade, half iced tea. And so I'm like, Are these supposed to be ice tea gummy bear or gummy fruit? And I couldn't tell and so I was staring at the front of the package. Yeah, that gives you no indication, no, whatsoever.

Jordan (00:03:10.000)

I mean, other than you're like, oh, it's an Arnold Palmer. That means that there's ice tea. There's got to be ice tea,

Dan (00:03:16.000)

but it should say iced tea fruit snack.

Jordan (00:03:18.000)

It should be. It needs to. It needs to because it shouldn't be like, it's still vague.

Dan (00:03:24.000)

I thought the idea was nuts. I thought it was nuts. That Arizona was making fruit snacks.

Jordan (00:03:28.000)

Yeah, that's a good point.

Dan (00:03:29.000)

So I think that they're fine but not great, but the brightspot is the confusion. Yes, that moment of staring at the package and being like, is this half iced tea half fruit flavored fruit snack?

Jordan (00:03:43.000)

That is what you are getting novelty for. That's what you're about. You're about the mystery.

Dan (00:03:48.000)

It's been a long time since I've stared at a package read everything on it and been like I know this has to be half iced tea but it can't be

Jordan (00:04:01.000)

and yet, how can it be?

Dan (00:04:04.000)

I'm baffled I impressed the, I'm impressed with the hustle, respect the game of course. But the product itself isn't that great.

Jordan (00:04:12.000)

Having tasted them. iced tea. It's in there.

Dan (00:04:15.000)

It's not it's not like a strong iced tea.

Jordan (00:04:18.000)

But you know it's there they went they went hard on the fruit as was wise.

Dan (00:04:22.000)

I think some tea flavors are like, maybe underrated in some other settings. And I think you know, this done better could be better.

Jordan (00:04:31.000)

I enjoyed them. I enjoyed the one that I ate. I'm surprised.

Dan (00:04:35.000)

So what's your bright spot?

Jordan (00:04:36.000)

Oh, my bright spot. Dan. You know, I haven't talked too much about the old baseball this summer because the Cubs are, I'm actively trying to avoid them. The ownership in Chicago, etc. Oh, no. Oh, you know the whole thing here about it. Um, so, but this has been you know how last year I was like, oh Shohei Otani put together the greatest season of Baseball ever put together? I heard he got better this year. What he got better?

Dan (00:05:03.000)

Well, I mean, he's coming into his own. Exactly. He's a baby

Jordan (00:05:07.000)

Exactly. He got better this year. I'm scared of what he's going to do next year. I think he's going to kill a man with his greatness. Oh, he'll just begin to glow. I mean, his hair is gonna go out. Yeah, obviously that's what's gonna happen. That means that freeze is right around the corner

Dan (00:05:24.000)

What if we end up in a situation where it's just he's the whole team, right?

Jordan (00:05:30.000)

Could be, I do, throws a pitch and then runs the field. I genuinely believe that the ultimate baseball challenge now is cloning Shohei Otani eight more times, and having him eight nine hims play against the best that the rest of the world has to offer. At every position.

Dan (00:05:47.000)

You could have a one person baseball team because one side just has to hit Yep. So there you go. Yep. And then the other side. Well, I guess you need a catcher. But if you're a good enough pitcher, you don't need that outfield. Oh, no, no, no need people on the base.

Jordan (00:06:00.000)

So that's the legend of satchel page he used to while he was pitching in, in the leagues, you know, he used to be like, Hey, I got the next three. And he'd send the entire outfield and the team behind him off the field and then he would pitch by himself. I did not know that. And he would strike them out three in a row, buddy. Wow. Yeah, what what? You've got to really be confident. Single to home run. Real, real dumb. Because you're gonna because even if it's like a bunt, you're gonna have to go run for it. And then you have to tag him. So it's gonna be a home run. Yeah, you got to strike about Yeah, that's brutal.

Dan (00:06:37.000)

That's an interesting question. Okay. So if someone bunted. Yeah, and you run to get it, and you're chasing them, you have to chase them. But do you have to chase them by the path of the bases?

Jordan (00:06:47.000)

No, you do not have to be in the base, Yes, you can cut across,

Dan (00:06:50.000)

there's a chance that's not a homerun,

Jordan (00:06:51.000)

that it's possible. It's possible. But you know, the pitchers aren't notorious for being the best at chasing people down. And tagging them

Dan (00:06:58.000)

that's true. Yeah, I do. Imagine a fun scenario where you know, because like when there's like, someone has the ball and they're trying to tag someone run back to the base. Yes, yeah. In a pickle. Yes. I imagine that. But like the runner would be able to go all the way back to first.

Jordan (00:07:16.000)

Yeah, that would be one way to do it. I imagine. I think I would prefer if this was more modern day. And it was a bad pitcher that everybody knew was bad and he somehow

Dan (00:07:27.000)

Scott Spiezio

Jordan (00:07:28.000)

somehow convinced the outfield and infield to get off the field. Like a five ERA. He's like, Hey, listen, guys. I got this one.

Dan (00:07:38.000)

It'd be awesome. Oh, that'd be great. And then I'm the batter. Yeah, I hit a home run. crab walk around the bases.

Jordan (00:07:45.000)

There's no way to stop you.

Dan (00:07:47.000)

So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. Excellent. We're gonna be talking about October 9 2022. That would be a Sunday episode. Some shit goes down. And there's some angles on this stuff that I want to talk about

Jordan (00:08:03.000)

Is the entire thing just him playing music and kind of mugging to the camera.

Dan (00:08:08.000)

I wish, man. The you know what, that to me was a bit refreshing in some ways, it was, because it does harken back to like, 2008 times. Yeah, when he'd just like rock out to songs. There was more of a freedom. And so you know, I I've been thinking about this a little bit. One of the things that I hate about Alex's present day stuff is he is such like, a he chases attention so much. Yeah. Like, I think social media fucked him up. Yeah, I think that like,

Jordan (00:08:40.000)

I mean, that's not, that's not unusual. I think social media fucked all of us up. Honestly,

Dan (00:08:45.000)

that's true. But he's he's also got like an attention model that or a business model? That's so based around totally capturing attention. Absolutely. I just I feel like it wouldn't have, he wouldn't behave the same way in previous eras of his career, like his information would be just as bad but he wouldn't be so annoyingly chasing down like X, Y or Z meme that he wants to try and like seem like just try and get a little bit of attention. Yeah, it's just it's, I hate to say that it's beneath him because it's not.

Jordan (00:09:18.000)

No, here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say. Part of the reason that he can get away with saying that or he could get away with saying he was above the left right paradigm was not necessarily his political beliefs. It was also the complete lack of care that he gave toward like all of a sudden he just made a listen. Turn this track up, you know, like, yeah, you're above the left right paradigm. You're just having a good time singing along to a song right now. Right.

Dan (00:09:41.000)

And the guests that he would have kind of gave that appearance too because they weren't like meme people, totally, and Carpe Donktum, it'd be like boring ass people like G Edward Griffin. Yep. Or like Jim Tucker. Like these boring ass old dudes.

Jordan (00:09:56.000)

He gave the feeling if you're at a negotiating table with Alex about whether or not to listen to his show, back then he would have been able to walk away from the table. You know, he would have been like, Fuck you don't listen to my show, but now he's kind of got that like, okay, you don't like it now but how about this? Oh, try this

Dan (00:10:13.000)

Have I introduced you to my friend Laura Loomer.

Jordan (00:10:15.000)

Totally Yes. Yeah. All right, gotta be able to walk away from the table.

Dan (00:10:20.000)

A little sad. Yep. Anyway, we'll get down to business on today's episode. But first, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, I joined to help Dan cover the cost of mailing pins and to tell Jordan he does a great job too thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

Alex Jones (00:10:33.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (00:10:34.000)

Thank you very much

Dan (00:10:34.000)

Pins buttons badges so many words, you're going for it, next DJ nose blow. Thank you so much you are now a policy wonk.

Alex Jones (00:10:34.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Dan (00:10:37.000)

Thank you very much, fewer words.

Dan (00:10:37.000)

That might be a cocaine thing that well, next, Gary Poupon, thank you so much you are now a policy wonk

Alex Jones (00:10:41.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (00:10:42.000)

Thank you very much.

Dan (00:10:44.000)

My grandpa pretended that he came up with the Grey Poupon joke,

Jordan (00:10:55.000)

he was one of those guys who just kind of made a weird lieout of no, just like, oh,

Dan (00:11:00.000)

it took a while for me to realize nah.

Jordan (00:11:03.000)

That's hard to believe.

Dan (00:11:05.000)

Next, me from the future. How'd that trial go? Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

Alex Jones (00:11:09.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (00:11:10.000)

Thank you very much.

Dan (00:11:12.000)

Andhey, Brian, demons. Thank you so much for now policy wonk.

Alex Jones (00:11:15.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Jordan (00:11:16.000)

Thank you very much.

Dan (00:11:17.000)

Got a couple technocrats in the mix. Jordan. So first, Dan's irrepressible guttural internal screams of bullshit while Alex was on the witness stand. Thank you very much. You're now a technocrat. Clearly they were repressible, though. Well, man, we didn't test them to the extreme because we did leave the courtroom the second day.

Jordan (00:11:35.000)

Well, the problem is, I think we would need to get in a laboratory setting to do that where we can remove the you know,

Dan (00:11:41.000)

the confounding variables. Like the Texas heat.

Jordan (00:11:44.000)

Yeah. Totally. All of the things that could have gone wrong. Yes.

Dan (00:11:47.000)

And I'm not a bot, I'm an asshole. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat.

Alex Jones (00:11:51.000)

I'm a policy wonk. 4 stars, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone. Someone. Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser. Little little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

Dan (00:12:11.000)

Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you. Now, Jordan, Sunday episode. Sunday is for Sunday is the fun day.

Jordan (00:12:19.000)

Sure, you know, soft launch day?

Dan (00:12:21.000)

Well, that is definitely a way that Alex has used some of this in the past. And to like, try and feel some stuff out, you know, whether it's sort of giving a dress rehearsal to narrative,

Jordan (00:12:34.000)

almost a focus group also, you know, like

Dan (00:12:37.000)

But it's a focus group of one.

Jordan (00:12:38.000)

Yeah, well, that's a good point

Dan (00:12:40.000)

How does this feel coming out of my mouth.

Jordan (00:12:41.000)

That's a good point.

Dan (00:12:43.000)

Am I ashamed to have said this?

Jordan (00:12:46.000)

How much am I ashamed?

Dan (00:12:47.000)

Does this feel profitable?

Jordan (00:12:49.000)

What is the threshold?

Dan (00:12:50.000)

So we got Alex teasing some information that he has based on deep Intel? Okay.

Alex Jones (00:12:56.000)

I talked to a lot of people, Friday, Saturday, and then today in different levels of government and corporations, and I called them to ask them what Intel they had on the economy. And they all gave me similar answers.

Jordan (00:13:14.000)

Bad

Alex Jones (00:13:15.000)

and I do have some big breaking news that I'm gonna be laying out here today. But but here's just one of the pieces. Well, I'm gonna get to it later,this stuff. What? And I don't want to announce these major layoffs that are about to happen across the US in the next two weeks to scare people but but I am doing it so you know that our sources are real. What? But massive layoffs at some of the biggest corporations here in the United States.

Dan (00:13:49.000)

What a way to find out your fired.

Jordan (00:13:51.000)

Yeah. That'd be interesting. You're just you're just working at Goldman Sachs. You got your computer up, listen to the little AJ and then you go oh, no,

Dan (00:14:01.000)

it'd be great if your boss like called you into their office and they're

Jordan (00:14:05.000)

Hey, listen to this report. You know, just listen to this. Keep an eye out.

Dan (00:14:09.000)

See if you can get the underlying message.

Jordan (00:14:12.000)

Here's why. Here's what I want you to know, that he's gonna be proven right, to you at least

Dan (00:14:18.000)

Sample size of one. Yeah, so Alex has this deep intel that there's massive layoffs coming at unspecified companies later this year. And I gotta say, it's gonna be a bloodbath. Oh, no.

Alex Jones (00:14:31.000)

And I'll get to that next hour. Because even though it's important to break this stuff, it feels dirty to let people know what's about to happen in their companies even though I'm not these companies, even though I'm not the one doing it. But a man's got to do what a man's got to do. And I will do what I got to do. What, but it's it's big, and it's bad. Now, the layoffs start in two weeks. They're gonna get really bad right after the midterm so as a as a Christmas present in late November to kill the Christmas shopping season, they're going to have just a bloodbath of the stock market. That's what the currently is the plan.

Dan (00:15:12.000)

Oh, so probably won't happen and then you'll say the plan changed. Yeah, they change the plan. Okay. Just so we're clear, this is strategic flexibility or something

Jordan (00:15:20.000)

Absolutely. They've got multiple plans that they could audible to at any given point in time.

Dan (00:15:25.000)

The layoffs start in two weeks, sounds like an internal issue for Alex.

Jordan (00:15:29.000)

Does feel that he is giving his employees two week notice. Yeah, that is very nice of you. It's not often your employer gives you two weeks notice.

Dan (00:15:37.000)

Yeah, if I was sitting behind the board, I'd be like, Oh,

Jordan (00:15:42.000)

holding the boom mic, going aww this isn't gonna be a good day

Dan (00:15:45.000)

Alex is, out of nowhere, spinning a bizarre, vague conspiracy about jobs disappearing in two weeks. I might see some writing on the wall.

Jordan (00:15:56.000)

I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. In six months, I might be replaced with a little button pusher the, would be like, Jordan's angry, ahh!.

Dan (00:16:04.000)

No one would be able to tell if that hadn't happened already.

Jordan (00:16:06.000)

It would be hard. It would be hard.

Dan (00:16:09.000)

You're just AI

Jordan (00:16:11.000)

That's that's, I'm the only true AI test. I have the, I'm the first AI to really piss off Turing.

Dan (00:16:17.000)

People don't really understand how much of a homebody I am. I've actually invented

Jordan (00:16:21.000)

You built me? Oh, I've finally found out you're my Creator. god damn

Dan (00:16:27.000)

and I can destroy you.

Jordan (00:16:28.000)

I'm getting Westworlded as we speak.

Dan (00:16:30.000)

So Alex gets into sitting around talking about his inspirations a little bit. And boy, this list is a bunch of losers.

Alex Jones (00:16:38.000)

I've been doing the Sunday live broadcast now for 15 years, four to 6pm and doing the regular syndicated weekday show 11am to 3pm for 24 years, been on air 28 years and boy has what all the old timers told me was coming when I was a little kid. When I was in high school in college, everything they told me turned out to be true. Everything my grandfathers told me, everything my father told me, everything my father's uncle told me, everything my uncle told me, everything that Barry Goldwater said, everything Ron Paul said, everything that Joseph McCarthy said, everything that Robert Welch said, everything G. Everet Griffin said, everything that Ted Gunderson said, everything that Aaron Russo, said everything that Charlotte Iserbyt said, everything that Phyllis Schlafly said. Everything theysaid came true.

Dan (00:17:45.000)

Nope.

Jordan (00:17:46.000)

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's a list of people who bear little difference from dumpsters. Yeah.

Dan (00:17:56.000)

Yeah. I mean, just one example on there that's fun is Aaron Russo. Yeah, like everything he said came true. All right. Well, the person that he said was a member of the Rockefeller family was a guy who was pretending to be related to them, just happened to have the same last name, right. So a lot of that I mean, didn't come true. And he was either a participant in a fraud or he was conned by this guy himself.

Jordan (00:18:20.000)

That's a good point. Most of those people have been in part or completely convicted of fraud. Hmm. You can't, everything you say can come true if you've got a fraud conviction.

Dan (00:18:33.000)

Ted Gunderson deeply involved in the Satanic Panic of the 80s.

Jordan (00:18:37.000)

Yeah, absolutely. Garbage people.

Dan (00:18:40.000)

Oh, John Birch Society, cold war dead Enders

Jordan (00:18:44.000)

really gonna go out on a limb and say this McCarthy character who? Not a good guy? No, not a good guy. Wow. There's a lot of disagreement

Dan (00:18:51.000)

Look, man, the media will tell you that he's not a good guy. Yeah. They're taken him out of context. Yeah, that's fair. So anyway, because of all these people, like influencing Alex, when he was younger, he knew all this was coming.

Alex Jones (00:19:05.000)

They even got it down to the timeframe and what years it would happen. You know why? Because they had worked at the highest levels of corporations and government. And they had people try to bring them into it to be part of it. Including some people in my family who were patriots and said no. And they took the big, powerful, high paying jobs they had and they went back to being farmers and auto mechanics and running convenience stores. Rather than be part of the evil. And they had their souls and have their souls. When I learned about this as a child, and then learned it was true as I grew up and saw it happening in the world. It was very adventurous, it was exciting to be battling with a world order. You can see them trying to launch their programs. You can see the embryonic levels of what they built, but now we're facing the full grown New World Order. It's not in It's not in beta anymore. It's in full blown attack mode. So we're not going to have to wait for it anymore. Everybody's going to have to either find God or find the devil. Because you're going to find one or the other because that's what's going on here.

Dan (00:20:17.000)

You got to find somebody,

Jordan (00:20:18.000)

Man I don't want to find one or the other.

Dan (00:20:20.000)

No, no, I, I'm gonna sit this one out.

Jordan (00:20:23.000)

Yeah, it seems like their gig, man. I don't have anything to do with this. Yeah, I didn't start anything.

Dan (00:20:30.000)

So I think that's a really revealing clip. And I fully believe Alex's telling of his younger years. Yeah. When he was a kid and his weirdo John Birch Society family members told him that they were involved in fighting a giant worldwide communist conspiracy that was being led by the devil. I thought that was pretty exciting for him. Your imagination and ability to immerse yourself in fantasies is very strong as a child, and it can be really fun to create elaborate games to try and escape the simplicity or boringness, or shortcomings of your real life. Every kid has played superhero at some point, right? Like I even had a cape when I was a kid. That's how that's how escapist I was. Yeah.

Jordan (00:21:07.000)

Now Now I'm imagining a John Birch Society Bill Watterson.

Dan (00:21:11.000)

I'm not. So that, the issue here is that Alex is still doing this. He's a 48 year old man and he's never really gotten past that point of experiencing life like a child casting himself as the crusading hero saving the world from evil. When you realize that Alex was just a kid roleplaying, fighting evil globalists, and now he's an adult role playing fighting evil globalist, it's pretty easy to see that he's basically still that same child. Let me put this in this way. Replace the evil globalists with pirates. And this dynamic becomes a little clearer about what Alex's maturity level is

Jordan (00:21:49.000)

something very similar to that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is it is. What Uh, okay, so John Birch Society, Calvin. Oh, no.

Dan (00:22:01.000)

All right, give it to me. Give me the elevator.

Jordan (00:22:04.000)

Okay, so remember, like Calvin Ball should be called Schlafly ball. All right, all right. And you hit women in the stomach with the ball. But you can only, you can't hit the same woman twice. That's the only rule of Schlafly ball. Okay, you can Oh my god. And then John Birch Society is bad.

Dan (00:22:26.000)

Dad thinks that everybody's out to get him.

Jordan (00:22:29.000)

Yeah, but he still rides his bike a lot. That one is still fine.

Dan (00:22:32.000)

And Hobbes is super into the free market

Jordan (00:22:36.000)

is what would it be? Hobbes is the, I suppose physical manifestation of Hitler.

Dan (00:22:42.000)

Okay. Yeah. Or like, won't stop talking about the Second Amendment and nullification of state laws.

Jordan (00:22:51.000)

I built the Transmogrifier. Oh, did you ,with my tax dollars, please? Yeah. Dammit.

Dan (00:22:56.000)

Hobbs doesn't doesn't want the wagon to be on any roads. Anyway, yes. There's some good news. Yeah, a lot of bad news so far. But there's some good news.

Alex Jones (00:23:06.000)

Let me tell you what's coming up now. Because the backdrop of that terrible news and the terrible military news and the war news is some really good news. I've got three stacks that I want to cover with the good news. And they're all really splendid. And it shows that people are waking up and takeing action. And it shows Newtonian physics is again being proven accurate for every action, there's an opposite and equal reaction, or opposite and equal reaction. So let me start getting into the good news first. Pay Pal came out on Friday in their terms of service officially. And said if we don't like what you say or what you believe we will fine you $2,500 per infraction. There was a gigantic backlash and they revoked it and said, We're sorry. We're not going to do it. You mean for now? They've gotten away with so much for so long. I told you next is debanking. Next is a universal basic income and the social credit score and total control, when they snap their fingers and say jump. You say yes sir master how high.

Dan (00:24:10.000)

So there was a bit of a misunderstanding about Pay Pal that's now being misreported by Alex to claim a non existent victory.. Here's the condensed version of what's going on here. Pay Pal has certain rules about what their service cannot be used for. For instance, you can't use it to pay assassins or sell drugs. In a version of their acceptable use policy they included on their list of prohibited uses things that quote are fraudulent, promote misinformation or are harmful. This language was subsequently removed from the policy statement, which I guess Alex is taking credit for. great. They never were going to find you $2,500 for spreading misinformation. This is a misreporting of their policy that relates to PayPal's ability to charge you $2,500 If you're sued for doing any of the prohibited activities, when using their service. right, This is essentially a flat rate per violation that they assess to protect themselves and recoup expenses that may come from you using PayPal to do things that they explicitly say you can't. Sure, sure. Anyway, the story is more useful to Alex the way he tells it. But ironically, that's Alex spreading misinformation, which luckily won't get him fined by PayPal and wouldn't have before either, because this is a full of shit narrative.

Jordan (00:25:20.000)

So what why did I hear so much about it? Or like, Why did I see so much about it? Did everybody freak out about it?

Dan (00:25:27.000)

Yeah, there was some there was some back. There's considerable backlash. Right, on, folks. And, you know, I think it probably does come down to the fact that PayPal did remove that language from their Acceptable Use Agreement. I think that that probably facilitated a larger news cycle. Right. Right. Because then it kind of implies that they were guilty about Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. And I don't know. I mean, I said it was a mistake that that was in there, which I'm not sure I fully buy but either way. The reality of it is, you know, you there is no fine that was going to be assessed for spreading disinformation. Yeah. And look, I mean, it even within the language that was removed, like, the you can't use it for things that are fraudulent, right, that's still true.

Jordan (00:26:17.000)

Oh, okay. Well, that's good. Right. Yeah.

Dan (00:26:20.000)

I mean, how could you use PayPal to do frauds? Yeah, that would be bad by their terms of service,

Jordan (00:26:26.000)

they wouldn't be happy about that. Because then people would be like, Oh, you can use Pay Pal for fraud, and then the government would be like, you shouldn't be able to use Pay Pal for fraud.

Dan (00:26:33.000)

I would guess if I had to assume, that language was something that they wanted to be in there. But before they published it before, you get to tweak it a little bit because promote misinformation and are harmful are too vague.

Jordan (00:26:49.000)

That's kind of what I feel like was going on is that they were like, well promote misinformation. Eventually, that comes down to who thinks what's misinformation, and maybe we shouldn't, Yeah, it's real messy to get involved.

Dan (00:27:01.000)

But at the same time, you wouldn't want to be in a situation where you couldn't kick someone off who was you know, running misinformation empire, was hurting people, didn't want to be associated with

Jordan (00:27:12.000)

absolutely, no shirt, no shoes, no lies, no service.

Dan (00:27:15.000)

So yeah, I would assume that the accident was that they just put that out without like, realizing or finishing the job of fleshing out what those things mean. Sure, sure. But either way, Alex's story is full of shit. Yeah, that sounds right. Anyway, time to time to find your will find your spirit.

Jordan (00:27:32.000)

Where is it?

Dan (00:27:33.000)

I don't know.

Alex Jones (00:27:33.000)

Okay, once we find our soul, once we find our will, once we find our spine. Once we find our huevos. Once we find our ovaries if you're a woman, once you find your brain, once you find your will, your survival instinct. This will all turn around real fast. But none of that goes much further. That's why I'm like the edge of a cliff here. We're all being pushed over to like folks, we can turn around. We don't have to do this. And they're behind us trying to scare us to run off the edge of a cliff. All we got to do, say no. And come back for air. It's like, they've hypnotized us, and we're at the bottom of the pool 10 feet under, they're just they've hypnotized us. And we think we can't swim to the surface. Well, when we pass out, we're going to drown. We got time to swim back to the surface. But we just got to decide to come out of the trance and go, Hey, this is a bad idea. I'm gonna swim 10 feet to the surface. Just it's so easy, but you got to do it. It's that easy. But you got to decide. These people are out to get you, people like Well, that's scary couldn't we have predators and really evil people in command. That's one basic criminology and you study and it's very interesting. Most victims of crime, couldn't believe it was happening to them and didn't fight back or didn't even run and complied. And corporations teach people comply with crime, comply with robbers. And of course, that just makes it worse and worse and worse. When you don't comply with criminals. They're a scarce commodity, and they live in fear. When we comply. We die.

Dan (00:28:58.000)

It sure sounds like Alex is saying that if you're the victim of a crime, it's because you didn't fight back enough. Yeah, he is saying that because that's what he believes. Yeah, that's why he thinks society would be perfect and polite if everyone was carrying a gun at all times, because to him you can't be a victim if you're armed, which is also bullshit, right? This is a disgusting mentality that Alex is espousing, masquerading as a message of empowerment. Also to touch on that point that he makes about corporations teaching you to comply with criminals like robbers, that's really important and good advice. I've worked at a couple of gas stations in my life and I was even robbed at gunpoint once at one of them. If you work in a setting like this, you will have your bosses tell you that if someone wants to rob you, go along with everything they're saying, unless they want you to leave the store, then it becomes a completely different crime and if you're looking at being kidnapped, you shouldn't comply. We never go to a second location, but in the overwhelming majority of cases the person robbing you doesn't want to hurt you. They just want money which is replaceable and the store is likely insured anyway. There's literally no point in fighting back and risking escalation to situation into one way where people get hurt or even killed. Yeah, the same is true in a lot of stores. Like for instance, I worked at an Office Depot. And they very clearly told us that if the alarm goes off that someone left without paying for something, don't chase them, just let them go, why, There are cameras up. And again, the stolen item is just a stolen item, you don't have to risk your well being over it. In reality, there's an issue here where your employer doesn't want to get sued by your family if you're killed on the job and taking a hit of whatever the robber gets away with from the tail is small potatoes. Yeah, but whatever the motivation, it's very weird that these bosses and corporations seem to care a lot more about your well being than Alex

Jordan (00:30:37.000)

is. Well, I mean, it's weird to me that people were like, instinctively want to fight back. You know, they want to, shooting people that like the people not It's not I don't

Dan (00:30:47.000)

I don't know if they do. Alex does. Thinking about the situation.

Jordan (00:30:51.000)

No, I mean, though, I mean, the people in like the big news stories, who do the thing where they're like heroes saves the, and every time I'm like, all of that, compared to your life is absolute garbage. You risked your life and you ended somebody else's for nothing. You know, like, that kind of makes me feel crazy. That's somebody else's bullshit too, that's not even your garbage?

Dan (00:31:14.000)

Well, yeah. In terms of like a robber, particularly, it's wild. I think I think there is a difference. And I don't want to unpack this fully. But there is a difference if there is a threat to other people. Oh, for sure. Like if someone's shooting people there. Yeah, that whole thing. I don't trust the average person to negotiate a hostage situation.

Jordan (00:31:35.000)

I'm a great negotiator. I would never, I would never intervene. I would just talk my way out of that.

Dan (00:31:39.000)

I don't I didn't program you for that.

Jordan (00:31:43.000)

But you programmed me to think I could? What a weird programmer.

Dan (00:31:48.000)

Yeah, I just I think I think that this is dumb, irresponsible and offensive to people who are the survivors of crimes. Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, Alex gets to talking about Trump. Now we know that Alex likes Trump, but also he doesn't like him. But he likes him. But also, there's some problem.

Jordan (00:32:04.000)

It has been reported in the news that he has gotten off the Trump train at least six times in the past eight years, eight months, something like that. Yeah.

Dan (00:32:12.000)

Alex has an interesting comparison to make about Trump.

Alex Jones (00:32:15.000)

I'm not doing a popularity contest with Trump and DeSantis. I love Trump, I know he's for real, the enemy absolutely hates his guts. He did so many great things that in the balance are incredible. But you add the vaccine poison to it, it outweighs at all. I still love the fact is getting good Republicans elected. Love the fact he's battlingthe globalist. It's great. But it's like you don't you love your dad, but you wish he didn't rob banks or, you know, you know, you love your cousin but you wish you know that he wasn't an arsonist. He just can't help it. He burned stuff down sometimes

Jordan (00:32:48.000)

then don't make him president

Alex Jones (00:32:50.000)

you want. I mean? Oh, I love my cousin. Yeah. But he likes to burn out barns down. That's just hypothetical example. I think I did have a distant cousin did like to do that. But the point is,

Dan (00:33:01.000)

it's less of a hypothetical then

Jordan (00:33:03.000)

Yeah, I suppose it seems like you're going to forgive any and all crimes. Thus proving when Trump said that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue. He was 100% correct. In regards to you, at least,

Dan (00:33:13.000)

I don't know. Maybe I just don't have family values. But I don't think I'd care for my cousin if he was an arsonist. I mean, I certainly wouldn't hang out with him, because I would be pretty afraid that I'd get hooked. hooked into an arson.

Jordan (00:33:24.000)

I'd be afraid that I would be arsoned.

Dan (00:33:27.000)

Well, either that or accessory?

Jordan (00:33:30.000)

Yeah, absolutely. No. Yeah. I mean, at the very least, I wouldn't hang out with him. Too often. Maybe like family gatherings.

Dan (00:33:39.000)

Oh, let me also say this. Maybe the arson is a sign that they need help. Oh, you saying that you care about your family member? Right. But also accept that they're an arsonist? Right. It leads me to believe that maybe you don't care about them as much as you think you do.

Jordan (00:33:53.000)

Yeah. No, I care about them because I go to the store. And sometimes he doesn't have the money. So I loaned him the money to buy gasoline. That's caring.

Dan (00:34:01.000)

Very considerate. Yeah.

Jordan (00:34:03.000)

I mean, what else is he going to do? Yeah, this is silly. Yeah, it's a bad idea.

Dan (00:34:07.000)

I like the comparison to Trump though to an arsonist.

Jordan (00:34:10.000)

Well, I mean, it really does kind of put into relief that they really do know, you know what we used to be like they, do they know he's a monster. How can they not know he's a monster. They know. They know.

Dan (00:34:22.000)

He's like a dad bank robber. Or a cousin arsonist.

Jordan (00:34:25.000)

They're like, hey, he steals from everybody and us, but at least he's our father. Yeah.

Dan (00:34:31.000)

Well, so there's some other good news that Alex has got.

Alex Jones (00:34:35.000)

Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo. On Friday released the state's analysis of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, revealing an 84% increased risk of cardiac related death among men 18 to 39. Florida will not be silent on the truth. The diet, the guidance recommends the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines for males 18 to 39 years old, not be given, in a statement The doctor has said that the studying of the safety, the efficacy of any medication, including vaccines to an important component, public health, far less attention has been paid to safety and the concerns of many individuals who've had been dismissed. These are important findings that should be communicated to Floridians. Well, that's to say the least. The Florida Department of Health released the findings of a self control their own study K series, which they use to evaluate the safety of COVID vaccines were studied mortality risk following mRNA COVID-19 vaccinations. So the state itself sign up a bunch of people, didn't tell him what the study was. Had them take the shot because they were wanting it, to see what would happen. That's what he's been doing in the last year since Governor DeSantis brought him in and said he's given full faith in him.

Dan (00:35:49.000)

Alex is just making up what happened with this study here. Yeah. And the self controlled study thing isn't that they did it themselves. Sure. It's a style of study where you are your own control group. It's a Alex has no idea what he's doing. Yeah. So as, as has become a tradition, we've reached the COVID narrative of the day. Sure, we need a theme song. Yeah, I don't think we do. This unsurprisingly, is bullshit. The Florida Surgeon General did say this. And this is a real press release. But the underlying study itself has some critical flaws with how it's designed, to the point where one begins to question if it was a study seeking a particular conclusion, as opposed to one looking to determine truth. While the data in the study does show an 84% increase in cardiac related deaths in people who got mRNA vaccines, but there's some gigantic red flags that should make you never rely on this study to report that data. The first is that the paper has no authors listed, which is really suspicious. No one's name is on there.

Jordan (00:36:46.000)

Well, I think they don't have Alan Smithee. Yet, I think here's the problem.

Dan (00:36:51.000)

Second, the paper has not been published anywhere, nor has it been peer reviewed in any way. Third, and perhaps most troublingly, the paper just used death certificates to define deaths. Thus, deaths with a code of 130 through 152, which covers quote, other forms of heart disease, are included. This section of codes does include cardiac arrest, but the section doesn't cover a number of other heart related outcomes that didn't make sense for them to exclude, that, it skews the data a bit right. Also, someone who has cardiac arrest on their death certificate may have died from something else that led to their heart stopping. It's not precise enough to be helpful in this context at all for what they're trying to assert, right. Fourth, the paper has some issues with who they included and did not include. They claim that they include excluded anyone who has been diagnosed with COVID. But in the limitation section, they say this, quote, this study cannot determine the causative nature of a participants death, we use death certificate data and not medical records. COVID testing status was unknown for those who did not die of or with COVID. This makes things very confusing. They had no knowledge of the testing status of anyone who didn't die of or with COVID. But people who died over with COVID were excluded from the study, which would seem to indicate that they had no idea of any of the people in the study had COVID at any point,

Jordan (00:38:14.000)

well, it didn't occur to us to ask,

Dan (00:38:17.000)

that seems like an issue. The limitation section even says this later, quote, it's unclear what the contribution of asymptomatic or undiagnosed COVID 19 infection is to mortality risk, or how this contract contributes to excess mortality.

Jordan (00:38:31.000)

Man I'm real tired of them always using these papers that are basically like, how about this? Does this sound about right? Yeah. Are you willing to buy this shit?

Dan (00:38:42.000)

This? I mean, this just it's not solid enough? No, it's not a good foundation for public policy. And beyond that Alex is just making up the methodology as he skims this well, it feels like so did they. Yeah, it's right up his alley. So it gets to be today's COVID bombshell. Perfect. DJ Danarchy. We need a theme song

Jordan (00:38:59.000)

oh boy, oh no, oh God, I will be replaced by a soundboard.

Dan (00:39:04.000)

So we got another victory here.

Alex Jones (00:39:06.000)

When we move to our next big victory. And yes, it's a sad victory. But 99% of people I showed you the statistics two weeks ago again last week, are not taking the new Pfizer and moderna booster shots. 99 Less percent uptake. And all over the place. The fake mandates of California, New York and other places are falling. In Europe, the force injections are failing. They tried to intimidate and bum rush and panic and bully everyone into submission. But it didn't work. Some took it but the victory we've had now is massive. People are really waking up. It's very sad for those that took the poison shots. There are some mitigating factors that a lot of scientists and doctors coming on the next few weeks we'll talk about how you can try to mitigate if you did take the shot. We're not judging anybody that got intimidated into doing it. Bullied and beat over the head into submitting to it. But this is so massive

Dan (00:40:00.000)

I'm not exactly sure where Alex is getting his 99% number, but it is fair to say that the number of people who've gotten the new booster is pretty low. That could be because Alex's side is winning the war of ideas. Or it could be that the CDC and the government is asleep at the wheel in terms of providing messaging and guidance and the population is burnt out and confused. Or maybe it's a third thing. Yeah, yeah, whatever the case I want to make. Take a second here to point out this new trend in Alex's show, it feels to me like this signals his growing disinterest in COVID conspiracies. He's yelled literally every day about a new piece of information that proves conclusively that he's right about everything. So you can kind of see how he wouldn't have much more territory to cover on that front.

Jordan (00:40:41.000)

It's hard to think of more to get

Dan (00:40:43.000)

if you believe the things that he's saying, this story has been covered, and it's pretty much case closed, it's redundant. Yeah. So you need to find a new way to keep moving and eventually everyone's gonna get bored of the COVID narrative of the day. It's stale, repetitive, and you're really preaching to the choir, the audience already thinks the vaccine's a death shot. So proving that over and over again is just monotonous. However, with Alex Lee Moyer's dumb movie, and Glenn Greenwald's glowing review and the mileage that he's been able to get out of things like that Channel Five interview, and his book release, and the attention that he's getting from the trial, I wouldn't be surprised if Alex was seeing some new eyes on his product. And some of these folks probably got vaccinated. If you have a new initiate, and you make them scared of this death vaccine, that's killing millions that they've already taken, and there's no solution, it's gonna be hard to make money off them. Conversely, if you start to come up with cures and solutions to protect yourself, if you've been vaccinated, then you can create this intense fear about the vaccine and then sell people a placebo to alleviate those fears.

Jordan (00:41:43.000)

That's the trick.

Dan (00:41:45.000)

Brilliant.

Jordan (00:41:46.000)

We heard somebody like that on our last episode,

Dan (00:41:49.000)

right, the caller who called in, she was confused, she hasn't died from the vaccine,

Jordan (00:41:53.000)

I had that I was a liberal, and I got the poison shot.

Dan (00:41:56.000)

And it's because it was stored at the wrong temperature.

Jordan (00:41:59.000)

Everybody's mainly fine.

Dan (00:42:00.000)

So you already have these cracks in the facade of like the death shot and all this, the explanation for why everyone isn't dying, like Alex has insisted they are, needs to start to be introduced. And I think that's what we're seeing, right? My only hope is that the solutions that Alex has found from talking to these alleged doctors leads to the reintroduction of Dr. Group. I need him to tell Alex on air that the answer is drinking your own piss. And see if Alex goes along with it

Jordan (00:42:25.000)

it's just got to happen.

Dan (00:42:26.000)

We got to get the piss doctor back

Jordan (00:42:28.000)

It's got to be the ultimate test. You know, like how far are we willing to go? I think we should just have a series of escalating like, oh, drinking your piss'll do it? Oh, you'll do it. All right. Well, let's go to the next one.

Dan (00:42:40.000)

Well, I just imagine a backroom dealing kind of thing where where Dr. Group comes in. He's like, I want to tell your audience to drink their own piss, right, Alex is like, never I can't do that. Right. And then he pulls out his checkbook. Oh, and you write a lot of zeros on this.

Jordan (00:42:53.000)

How many zeros Do you think you can buy?

Dan (00:42:56.000)

Your audience is going to be drinking piss Alex.

Jordan (00:42:57.000)

Oh, boy. All right. Okay, but you have to put my you have to put apple juice in my glass. I'm not going to actually drink the piss.

Dan (00:43:04.000)

So the PayPal story is one of Alex's big narratives today. And he says something while he was talking about it that I thought was really weird.

Alex Jones (00:43:14.000)

The good news is people went crazy. Elon Musk came out against it and said we need criminal charges against PayPal. And I got calls saying hey, Peter Thiel owns, you know he helped found it. He hasn't owned it in years. Peter Thiel didn't do this.

Dan (00:43:29.000)

That's weird. Strange for Alex to be defending Peter Thiel, although he has done that a little bit recently. But that's not what I'm catching on this clip. The thing that stands out to me is that someone or multiple someone's called Alex and blamed Peter Thiel for this rule at PayPal, which Alex had to refute. Now, why would that happen? Why would people call Alex and say, Hey, this rule at PayPal is bad. Why is Peter Thiel allowing this, seems to indicate that these people calling Alex understand some kind of a connection between the two of them. That's weird.

Jordan (00:44:00.000)

Yeah. Sounds like a

Dan (00:44:02.000)

That implies something weird.

Jordan (00:44:03.000)

Well, I mean, it sounds like there's a guy who has an absurd amount of money that who might think that some sort of number like 10 million, maybe maybe a little less, maybe a little less than 10

Dan (00:44:15.000)

might have access to cryptocurrency?

Jordan (00:44:17.000)

Yeah, it's a might be like, I can take a flyer on. Take a flyer on this just to keep the guy going

Dan (00:44:23.000)

someone who seems really interested in funding a lot of really weird right wing bullshit. Yeah, has some tenuous connection to the people behind Alex's documentary

Jordan (00:44:32.000)

Yeah, somebody who would be willing to actually build a redoubt like Alex dreams of doing might. Yeah,

Dan (00:44:40.000)

I have honestly, no solid evidence of anything involving, like, connecting Alex and Peter Thiel. Oh, sure. There's some weirdness. There's, there's a, Alex has no reason to bring up that people are calling him and saying this is Peter Thiel. Right, right, right. Alex for a long time, it was really invested in pretending Peter Thiel didn't exist.

Jordan (00:45:02.000)

See what's interesting about this particular situation is because so few people would be capable of making it possible in the game of Guess who we've taken out a lot of those things real quick, you know, we may not have been

Dan (00:45:17.000)

You mean in terms of the Bitcoin donation?

Jordan (00:45:19.000)

Yeah, it's got to be somebody with us. It's got to be somebody with this. It has to be otherwise it can't, you know, it can't have happened. Right. So he's on the list.

Dan (00:45:29.000)

He's on the list. But also, I think that there's probably a lot of people who maybe became crypto rich, that like, you have no idea who those people are, they may have access to way more resource resources than you even think

Jordan (00:45:43.000)

if you've got $500 million 10 million is fucking nothing.

Dan (00:45:48.000)

It's not that much. Yeah. To take a flyer, as you say

Jordan (00:45:52.000)

to take a flyer on, just take a flyer on it.

Dan (00:45:54.000)

So Alex gets to some other big news. And this is where this is going to intersect with your world a little bit.

Alex Jones (00:45:57.000)

People are waking up, and very exciting. Positive things are happening. So Kanye West did a big part two interview over two nights Thursday and Friday. With Tucker Carlson big international news massive ratings. And I've been busy. I haven'nt been watching Tucker lately. I watch the clips later. But Saturday, I starteded to get all the calls. Hey, Kanye West was on last night he talked about Infowars. But it's not Kanye West talking about Infowars that's important. It's what he was saying.

Dan (00:46:31.000)

So look, I have nothing but empathy for people suffering mental anguish. And I want to be clear about that. But I also think that there's a line, I still can feel for people who are acting out in manic outbursts, but when they're things that they're saying or doing are destructive, and they've had multiple opportunities to get help and have the resources to do so. The primary concern that I have shifts from their well being to the damage that their actions can have on others. Kanye is well past that line. But it isn't really too often that he comes up in our travels because Alex has a dicey history with Kanye. When he was first doing his I like Trump thing and hanging out with Candace Owens. Alex had Owens on the show as a guest from time to time and I think that Alex thought Kanye was gonna come on, and that never happened. But Kanye wore a maga hat. So Alex liked him right? And everything was well sure. Then in July 2020, Alex got mad at him because Kanye did an interview the publicly announced his split from Trump, which wasn't cool. So close to the election, particularly right. And like that Kanye was once again evil, which in Alex's world really just translates to someone I can't use to make a buck, right? But now Kanye is doing attention grabbing nonsense in public again and talking to Tucker about it. So it's a pretty safe bet that Alex is back to thinking that Kanye is pretty all right after all, yeah. For those who haven't been following the current timeline, here's a quick breakdown of what's happened. Kanye and Candace Owens were at a fashion show in Paris where they showed off Kanye's new T shirt that just said white lives matter. This was stupid on a number of levels. Obviously, the intention was to shock but if anyone was shocked by this, it was a shock without depth. There's no art to it. It's a banal, kind of shocking, lazy, shocking, if shocking at all.

Jordan (00:48:17.000)

Yeah, I heard that. And I went, Okay, yeah,

Dan (00:48:20.000)

there wasn't an artistic or fashion based reason that this was happening. It wasn't challenging anything.

Jordan (00:48:25.000)

No, it was just hey, look at me wearing this shirt. Ah, yes, it's crazy.

Dan (00:48:29.000)

The shirts weren't fashionable, per se. And the only real statement that was made is going to be received with eye rolls by most and riotous celebration by the right wing media. And that's pretty much what happened. Yep. Kanye is now embattled by the woke mob according to outlets like Fox because he dared to wear this shirt is a brave and artistic statement. I'm not sure if this is true, or if any woke mobs are embattling him. I kind of think that most people's response to his thought was along the lines of oh, this is happening again. wearing a white lives matter shirt while hanging out with Candace Owens is going to be viewed as racist type behavior by some but at this point, we're four years past the point where he did an interview and said that slavery was a choice. Kanye did get some negative feedback from his shirt coming from P Diddy of all people. The man who enters through the Diddy door texted Kanye, which we know we know about because Kanye posted a picture of the texts on Instagram. Kanye apparently wrote Diddy saying quote, I didn't like our Convo. I'm selling these Ts. Nobody can get in between me and my money. never called me with no bullshit like that again, unless you're ready to greenlight me because anybody that got on that T is me. This brings up an important point and that is that Kanye is selling these shirts so at its core This is basically just a publicity stunt. Yeah, Diddy asks for an address to meet with Kanye because his actions are causing distress. Kanye responds quote, This ain't a game. I'm gonna use you to show the Jewish people that told you to call me that no one can threaten or influence me. I told you this is war. Not great. Okay. Rightly people were pretty offended by this and his Instagram account ended up getting the boot. So he went to Twitter and posted quote, I'm a bit sleepy tonight but when I wake up, I'm going DEATH CON three on all caps Jewish people. Wow. The funny thing is that I actually can't be anti semitic because black people are actually Jew. Also, guys have toyed with me and tried to blackball anybody who opposes your agenda, right? He followed this with another tweet saying, quote, who you think created cancel culture. People really didn't enjoy this seeing as it's essentially swimming in anti semitic tropes. And this is really just a stone's throw away from Holocaust denial. Yeah. To recap, this was an episode that began with him wearing a racist trolling t shirt to a fashion show with racist troll Candace Owens, and ended up with him publicly declaring that he's going to war with the Jews. This is a mess.

Jordan (00:50:58.000)

I think people would be shocked if they started scratching their favorite hip hop artists. Yeah, to discover how many of them are interested or dabbling in Black Israelism. Yeah, sure. So there's that.

Dan (00:51:12.000)

I mean, there's that yeah, definitely. Yeah. I mean, even some popular

Jordan (00:51:18.000)

Oh, Kendrick is for sure. Like, you know, how Kyrie thinks some weird stuff and people are like, Ah, he shouldn't play basketball for some reason. Like, you don't know what your rappers think. Okay. That's what I'm saying.

Dan (00:51:30.000)

Yeah, there's some. Yep, yep. Yeah, but maybe not as much Kanye. Yeah.

Jordan (00:51:35.000)

No, no, no, no, nope, that's definitely true. So he's going for it.

Dan (00:51:39.000)

In the middle of all of this, Kanye down with Tucker Carlson and did an interview that's a bit painful to watch. It takes a certain level of scumbag to exploit somebody who's clearly unwell. And it turns out, Tucker is right at that level. You kind of expect that desperate grifters like Owens would take any opportunity to attach themselves to Kanye, regardless of the context because it gets their name in the media. Absolutely. Someone like Tucker, you kind of hoped that he'd realized that he doesn't always need to press like he's a big enough star and he's effective enough at pushing his talking points that interviewing Kanye is more of a liability than it is an opportunity. For instance, what if like a day or two after your interview your interview subject who you spent two days of your show arguing is sane and an insightful person declares that he's gone to war with the Jews. What then? Or even worse? What if it comes out that he said that kind of stuff in your interview, but you cut it out of the finished product to make it all more palatable for your audience? Hmm, what if footage of leaks that shows that you had every reason to suspect that your interview subject was unwell and also clearly expressing anti semitic views to your face? And then you just edit those things out? So you could exploit that celebrity to put his celebrity behind your political ideology? Yeah, seems like this is a risk you wouldn't want to take if you're Tucker

Jordan (00:52:54.000)

Yeah, yeah, this is. This is a situation where boy, everybody is making it worse. Yeah. Nobody's nobody's coming out being like, hey, let's try to help. No, everybody's like, that's money in my bank, too.

Dan (00:53:08.000)

I think there's some people expressing that. Hey, man, there should be some help here. But I also think people are a little bit burned out on that and that we've done this cycle with, hey someone should help Kanye West, for a long time.

Jordan (00:53:20.000)

No, I think this is at the point now where I'm more angry with the people who book him, like the booker for Tucker got Kanye enabling is yes, he was like, he was like, Fuck, this is a get instead of like, I am a weird, sociopathic person who's willing to do this shit for money. Like that's crazy,

Dan (00:53:42.000)

right? And it's, it's dangerous.

Jordan (00:53:45.000)

You don't have to put them on TV. It's not a requirement. There's nobody who's like, oh, man, if you don't put Kanye on TV, their family dies.

Dan (00:53:55.000)

But Tucker did all this. Oh, he took these risks. And of course, Anna Merlan over at Vice just today as we're recording this episode, she published an article where she had gotten ahold of unaired footage from the Kanye interview. And as it turns out, Tucker censored quite a bit that didn't fit the narrative of the story that he wanted to tell. Like for instance, he cut out quote, numerous anti semitic sentiments. Here's one of the clips that Vice provided that seems weird that Tucker wouldn't let him say this on the show.

Kanye West (00:54:22.000)

Planned Parenthood was made by Margaret Sanger, a known eugenics, with the KKK to control the Jew population. When I say Jew, I mean, the 12 lost tribes of Judah, the blood of Christ, who the race, the people known as the race Black really are, this is who our people are. The blood of Christ. This as a Christian, is my belief.

Dan (00:54:51.000)

Yeah, so that's, that's something, you know, interesting that Tucker shadow banned Kanye from being able to express his religious beliefs in an open setting. Yeah, that seems strange. Yeah. Apparently there are many instances of weird comments surrounding Jewish people. Like like this one oh boy

Kanye West (00:55:09.000)

I was biting my tongue. Oh, my political opinion, because I thought it would be better for my children. And now you look up and my kids are going to a school that teaches black kids a complicated Kwanzaa. I prefer my kids knew Hanukkah, and Kwanzaa? at least it will come with some financial engineering. Kwanzaa doesn't, it while so they don't teach even Christmas itself Christ's mass.

Dan (00:55:38.000)

So Kanye also had some other less clearly hateful but equally detached from reality things to say that Tucker just decided his audience didn't need to know about, including a lengthly discussion about how he thought that a fake kid had been planted in his home to sexualize his children. This was apparently a child of someone he knew who he became convinced was an actor. We don't have audio of this because Vice chose to withdraw, withhold the footage to respect the privacy of the child and their family, which I think is probably, very nice of them. Yes. Knowing all of this the way the Tucker starts his show on the first day of this seems a little bit unbelievable.

Tucker Carlson (00:56:14.000)

Days ago during fashion week in Paris, West, accompanied by his friend Candace Owens, unveiled a tshirt that read simply white lives matter. The response from the fashion industry and international media was instantaneous and uniform: shock, horror rage. There is no excuse for this, thundered The New York Times. West is legitimizing extremism, shrieked Rolling Stone, et cetera, et cetera. What was strikingly missing from the coverage, however, was any explanation for why West did this. What was the tshirt about? No one seemed to think to ask him much less to listen to what he had to say. Instead, the enemies of his ideas dismissed West as they have for years as mentally ill, too crazy to take seriously, look away, ignore him. He's a mental patient. There's nothing to see here. But is West crazy? You can judge for yourself as you watch what we're about to show you. He has his own ideas we can say that creative people tend to

Dan (00:57:12.000)

Tucker was sitting right there. Well, Kanye rambled all this shit and cut it all out to launder the perspective Kanye was expressing into something that he could market to his audience. Kanye's hatred for the Left and support of Trump, his aggressive anti abortion positions and his vocal Christianity are very useful for Tucker, so long as the audience doesn't actually get all the information. Tucker's whole game is that he's giving you this information so you can make up your own mind. They say that Kanye is crazy because he wears a white lives matter shirt and loves Jesus. So we decided to talk to him to see for ourselves, you be the judge, then of course, the next very important step in that game is to make sure that you don't show the audience certain things that will make them think that Kanye is clearly unwell. And you can see what this is what Tucker did. This is the game that he's playing.

Jordan (00:57:55.000)

Yeah, I mean, I will also say that, you know, this, this, this coincides with Kanye West music sucking, you know, like, what his music started sucking real bad. And then he started doing the far right grift. I'm not saying that people stopped buying his music because it sucked. And then he went to the next most easy grift maybe imaginable for a guy like Kanye. I'm not saying

Dan (00:58:20.000)

his music started to suffer from him being distracted by a load of bullshit, could be, mental unwellness

Jordan (00:58:27.000)

It's hard to make good music if you're talking to Candace Owens ever.

Dan (00:58:30.000)

That is true. Yeah. The interview itself is hard to watch. Kanye rambles about various pointless personal grievances and his divorce. He talks a bit about political stuff, but goes off course quite a bit. Watching it, even before the Vice article came out, I got the strong sense that stuff was missing from this interview. And even so it felt meandering. It felt overly edited, but yet still not concise. What I'm saying is that I don't recommend it. It's kind of a dumb interview, particularly the part where Kanye complains about how the Democrats and the Clintons wanted to get to his wife so they could take advantage of Kanye's fame to push their messaging when he's sitting next to a guy who's doing exactly that just without his wife's involvement. yeah, at the end of day two of the interview series, Kanye briefly mentions Alex Jones. So, you know, that, of course, is huge news on Infowars.

Jordan (00:59:18.000)

Ooh, biggest news on the planet.

Dan (00:59:20.000)

I'm gonna play you the complete section where this comes up, which is where Kanye is saying that maybe the Uvalde shooting was fake. Yeah, great. Good stuff.

Kanye West (00:59:28.000)

You know, I felt like the people that the Gap knew about the school shooting that Matthew McConaughey was talking about before it even happened. It was so in synched the information, and then I heard about it on the radio driving. And I was like, am I in The Truman Show right now. And I tell Candace, she's got to watch The Truman Show. You got to you have to watch what

Jordan (00:59:52.000)

she hasn't seen The Truman Show

Tucker Carlson (00:59:54.000)

school shooting, I think in Uvalde, Texas.

Kanye West (00:59:56.000)

Yeah, I'm not saying that they did. But it felt so in sync. This idea of like this media rush over the 78 specific outlets that influence meanwhile,

Tucker Carlson (01:00:13.000)

so there's a coordinated message. I think that's what you

Kanye West (01:00:15.000)

Yeah. Meanwhile, the there's the same amount of kids getting killed in Chicago every week. But there's no coordinated message about that. Have I reached Alex Jones territory yet?

Tucker Carlson (01:00:33.000)

No, I think you're telling the truth.

Kanye West (01:00:34.000)

Okay.

Tucker Carlson (01:00:37.000)

And that's okay. If you do.

Kanye West (01:00:39.000)

What I'm saying is like, yeah, they keep on using that, oh, he's crazy. He's crazy. thing. And it hurts my feelings. When people say that, hurts my feelings that people can ask me, Hey, are you okay? Like, especially like, just, I got an ego, someone that's less successful than me having the right to ask me about me, like they're a doctor. What you want me to put some ice on it, and put some ice on my brain is gonna fix it.

Dan (01:01:08.000)

Hoo boy. That's not a complimentary mention of Alex Jones. That was Kanye recognizing that even if people think he's nuts, there's a further level of nuts that he could achieve, which is Alex Jones level. And yeah, I would say he's on Alex Jones turf here, speculating that the Gap had advanced knowledge of the shooting. And I'm not sure what that means. Also, real quick, the reason that tons of news outlets sound the same in the immediate aftermath of a tragic event that's breaking news is because they're all reporting on the same very limited information that's been released by the authorities or witnesses, and no one wants you to put ice on your head. But the fact that you're mad at the people less successful than you are concerned about your well being means you should probably put some meds in your head. I have a litany of thoughts about this interview. But most of it really isn't germane to the matter here. where it intersects with our show is that tiny little mention of Alex and the fact that he was part of an anti semitic breakdown that's still ongoing and that folks like Alex and Tucker are actively covering for and enabling right so beyond that, I don't know the interview is you know, take what you can from it I guess if you want to watch it the yeah two hours to throw away, I mean, I would probably say, with commercials two hours

Jordan (01:02:17.000)

I would say that we're looking at a guy who is being told stuff by people around him in obey, he's surrounded himself with with Elvis's yes men, and yet at that, but they're also conservative right wingers, you know, like, if they were like, Yeah, Kanye, whatever you say is true. And also the government's planted a kid inside your house and be like, yeah, everything I say is true. And also one thing that I am saying is that the government planted a child in my house, and you're like, that seems very what is, Kanye's not reading books to get this information.

Dan (01:02:52.000)

People say all this stuff about this man, but we wanted to know the truth. We're going to show you the good, the bad and the ugly. Now we're also going to cut out a bit of the bad and the

Jordan (01:03:01.000)

ugly. To make sure that the bad of the that's too ugly.

Dan (01:03:05.000)

Yeah, this will probably skew the audience's perspective. And we clearly want them to land on one conclusion, right? Yeah, go fuck yourself, Tucker. Wow. Anyway, Alex wants to rationalize Kanye's feelings about the Uvalde shooting. And so here's where it goes with it.

Alex Jones (01:03:23.000)

It's the analogy I use. I remember back six years ago. Oh boy. Hillary did a town hall that looked like it was shot in 80 millimeter film. Super HD, dust in the air. You can see, kids asking her questions look like a movie. It was produced. So good. That you could look at it and say this isn't a town hall. This looks like a movie. How does she say it's a live town hall? When it's all super HD, perfect cuts, perfect comments. No mics messing up. No audio problems, no video problems. No nothing, you can look at something and say that

Jordan (01:04:00.000)

is no one mad at the crew?

Alex Jones (01:04:03.000)

versus live and real. We weren't saying that these events didn't happen. We were saying this looks controlled, manipulated. We should investigate this. And it came out that it was not a live. townhall Hillary had it was shot over a week with actors. And that was mainstream news. So you can see when something synthetic that why did she script the townhall that she ran ads for and promote everywhere, because she wants to look just right. But the point was we could see that it wasn't a live feed. It wasn't real. And I've used the analogy a lot of everybody's walked in a, usually it's a department store but you're buying a mattress you're buying some pots and pans and like a table they'll have fruit and you just look at it for 20 feet away you have to fake fruit If you don't need to go pick it up, you can look at it. You just know it looks too good. It looks too bright. It just doesn't look right. You know what a real pear looks like? What a real apple looks like what a real orange looks like, you know, it's fake. You walk over it's plastic and pick it up. Yeah, that's fake. That's all Kanye's saying. And then it's coordinated. And they don't want us looking into what are they doing? Because we're not sure exactly what type of plastic the fruits made out of. Is it melamine? Is it? We don't know. But we know it's fake.

Dan (01:05:33.000)

For those of you who don't remember, Alex is basically creating an elaborate fantasy story out of the revelation in 2016 that Hillary took pre screened questions at a town hall event, and one of them was asked by the then 15 year old daughter of a state senator who happened to be a Democrat. From there. Alex has extrapolated this out into being an entirely fake Town Hall, which I guess is evidence that school shootings are faked. Now, if Alex wanted to really blow some minds with this conspiracy, the 15 year old girl at that town hall was named Brennan Leach. And if that name rings a bell, it's because she went on to be a Senate aide who was photographed transporting the electoral ballots on January 6. Some folks misreported that she and other aides were protecting these votes during the rioting, but in reality, it was a photo from the morning. Sure, this is perfect for Alex it proves the January 6 was a Clinton false flag and the planning has been going on since that town hall when this kid asked a staged question to Hillary, it's perfect.

Jordan (01:06:29.000)

Wow, this is what happens when you pay attention to detail.

Dan (01:06:31.000)

If it helps get Kanye interested in this conspiracy. Alex could let them know that leach is Jewish. That should raise his suspicion. Oh my god. The point is that Alex is nonsense about this Clinton townhall is meaningless. And even if there is something to this, it doesn't justify any conclusions about the Uvalde shooting. Also, I have at least two friends who have tried to eat plastic fruit when they were really drunk. Considering how much of a boozer Alex is this probably isn't the best analogy he could be making.

Jordan (01:06:55.000)

I've watered several plastic plants in my day. I've had a good time. Yes. Yeah, they looked real. Yeah, they looked so real.

Dan (01:07:03.000)

Yeah. The the, the judgment of a drunk is, not always the best. Difficult. When it comes to plants.

Jordan (01:07:11.000)

Yeah, to go to you know, you don't worry too much about cause and effect in that situation.

Dan (01:07:16.000)

Speaking of cause and effect. What about it? Alex does what he does, and then there's an effect, Sure, namely waking people up, Naturally, like Kanye West. Ah, and Candace Owens. Uh oh

Alex Jones (01:07:26.000)

So Kanye West comes out and wears a white lives matter shirt. We sold shirts and said all lives matter. To Black Lives Matter. Brown lives matter. Yellow lives matter. white lives matter. And when he said is I figured this is something God would want, which absolutely, I'll wear a shirt says Black Lives Matter, except that I don't wanna be connected to the Left, but I'll still wear it because all lives matter. He did that to bring unity and stop the division and go against the system. He has a lot of courage and so does Candace Owens. And that's what this is all about. And we woke up Candace Owens, and Infowars first got Candice Owens on air, and she knows that and has apologized to me on air for not defending us when we got censored. That's okay Candace, you have gone through a lot and you've grown a lot. You're a great leader now. We were so blessed you're there. But but that's the whole point is we woke up Kanye West, folks. That doesn't mean Alex E. Jones did that. It means all of you did that. So right after he does this Instagram blocks 'im, Facebook blocks 'im. And the media is like, well, he deserves it, CNN because they're scared of him.

Dan (01:08:36.000)

Given the things that Kanye has been saying, I don't think I would want to be taking credit for waking him up. Nor would I want to say that my audience is responsible for it. I understand the short term gains that you can get from clout chasing here, but considering what Alex is saying, he should know what he's associating himself with. Alex is clearly running cover for Kanye's anti semitic Instagram post here by implying that the Tucker interview and the white lives matter shirt is the reason that he's kicked off the platform, instead of Kanye posting private messages between him and Diddy, where he threatens to use him as an example to the Jewish people who told Diddy to contact him. Alex knows what he's doing. Kanye is useful in terms of giving the appearance of not being racist while simultaneously using his celebrity to push dumb extreme right wing politics to a different audience. And Alex knows that comes with the byproduct of spreading intense anti semitic ideas to that wide audience and promoting them to your own audience at least tacitly, and Alex doesn't care at all. This is probably at least partially due to the fact that Alex's ideology is underpinned by pretty similar anti semitic ideas. Now, as for Candace Owens, Alex can claim that he woke her up but she's been very public about her experience moving to the right and it's due to GamerGate. In high school, Candace received a settlement of over $37,000 when she sued the school board for failing to protect her from racist death threats and harassment. Coincidentally, Norm Pattis, was her lawyer. In 2015 She started a website called degree 180, where there was a blog full of anti Trump and anti Republican content. So, now around that side. She followed this up in 2016 with a website called Social autopsy, which was supposed to be a site where online bullies would be unmasked and their anonymity was taken away. Everyone thought this was a terrible idea, and it would just lead to doxing and targeted harassment. It's super easy to see the way that the site's concept could be used for evil, particularly when it's being run by someone with as flimsy principles as Owens. Zoe Quinn, the target of a lot of the GamerGate harassment apparently sent Owens a message warning her that this wasn't a good idea, and she was likely to become the target of harassment herself if she followed through with this. Unsurprisingly, Owens did get, start getting harassed and doxxed and she decided to create an evidenceless conspiracy that Quinn wasn't warning her of the result of her terrible idea, she was actually threatening her that if she made this website Quinn would let loose a team of online harassers. Wow. And just like that Candace Owens became a right wing con artist. She took on the name Red Pill Black and then started working for Turning Point USA, which she continued to do until she made those comments back in 2018 about how Hitler would have been totally cool if he didn't have aspirations outside of Germany. So weird how these, there's a high percentage of people Alex claims to have woken up who go on to do Nazi shit. Yeah, yeah, that's not a coincidence.

Jordan (01:11:23.000)

Yeah, that's Nazi shit.

Dan (01:11:24.000)

Anyway, once she became red pill black, she was needing folks to help elevate her status on the right wing media scam. And Infowars was more than happy to platform her. I would guess that in the interview, she said something like you were the one who woke me up to flatter and ingratiate herself with Alex, but she's been really consistent with her GamerGate Zoe Quinn story in other venues. Right, right. Hey, you know what, just for fun. I want to see how Candace is like doing with the Kanye, Let's take a look, anti semitism story.

Candice Owens (01:11:52.000)

If you're an honest person, when you read this tweet, you had no idea what the hell he was talking about. I had I had no idea when I read this tweet, what the hell he was talking about. This tweet inspired questions, not answers. First and foremost. What is DEATH CON three? Did he mean DEF CON three, which would be a military defense position, not an offense for those who that are offended. A military defense position.

Dan (01:12:20.000)

Seems like she's got a good angle on this one.

Jordan (01:12:22.000)

Wow. Just Candace, Candace nailed this. Jesus Christ. Oh, ooh, I can't imagine saying that a man. I mean if you're throwing,if you can really say that with a straight face. Yeah, I might pay you for that. Yeah. I mean, that's a skill that I don't have

Dan (01:12:42.000)

if you're the person who's like the problem with Hitler was he was a globalist totally, totally, I think that maybe you could say stuff like this

Jordan (01:12:48.000)

I know. But man, that's, its defense. What he said DEATH CON. That's what does he mean by that? What are you talking about? Yeah, everyone knows.

Dan (01:12:59.000)

I think if you say you're going blank on the Jewish people, anything blank on the Yes. going blank and then you capitalize Jewish people? Yeah, I think

Jordan (01:13:12.000)

there's no positive spin on that

Dan (01:13:14.000)

This is gonna be tough. Oh, and I think this spin oh, by the way, I watched most of her video defending Kanye and the first 10 minutes are about herself and her Hitler comment. Right, right. Like, all right, what are you making this about yourself?

Jordan (01:13:28.000)

I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go the last third of Job on the Jewish people and give them twice as much shit as they already have. Yeah, man. Twice as many kids, today. That's how it works. Wow.

Dan (01:13:44.000)

So Alex is pretty excited still, because he got named checked and a celebrity saying something on Tucker. Although the context of it is Kanye saying, I'm not getting into Alex Jones territory here. And then Tucker saying no but also it's okay if you do. Yeah, that's not a compliment. No, no, no. Anyway, we get back to this PayPal story. And Alex might, it might feel like he's killing time here. It's only a two hour show on Sundays. But it still feels like he's just treading water.

Alex Jones (01:14:15.000)

On Friday, PayPal came out with new terms of service. And said if we don't like what you say about a list of issues, global warming, open borders, gun control, election fraud, vaccines, you name it. Anything that Bill Gates and his organizations at the Southern Poverty Law Center, the ADL says you say anything we don't like, that's true of course. We're going to take $2,500, outside of law, outside of courts, out of your account. Now the first thing I thought when I saw that once I got off here Friday because I missed it. It broke in the morning but I missed it, was this is the global social credit score. But the second thing I thought was the most important point that no nobody's been making until today. And that's what frustrates this. I don't want to do this all the time. I don't want to have to. People should get this. They don't need me to tell them. Folks use your brains. What's the big elephant in the room here? With PayPal saying if we don't like what you say, we're going to censor you. Yeah, that's illegal. Yeah, they're making their judge themselves Judge Jury Executioner. Yes, it's tyranny Yes, it's the social credit score. But But what's bigger than that?

Jordan (01:15:32.000)

Give six more examples.

Alex Jones (01:15:34.000)

Let that sink in for a minute. What's the issue?

Jordan (01:15:37.000)

Oh my god

Alex Jones (01:15:38.000)

it's the biggest of a bunch of bad ones Wow. of this power grab of this insanity of this arrogance of this tone deafness that they think they could just do this and get away with it when it's right out of the Book of Revelations.

Alex Jones (01:15:56.000)

Maybe I should open the phones up. And not answer the question. Oh my god, cuz if I just blurt it out, nobody cares. But if I build it up, because it's a big deal, then some callers gonna call in and they're gonna figure it out.

Jordan (01:15:56.000)

Mark of the Beast.

Dan (01:16:09.000)

So at this point, I was like he's waiting for a caller to say something that he can say is this Yeah, totally. It's not the case. He's just stalling but he does even more he goes on to like, I saw one person. One person I spent hours going all through all social media trying to find anybody making this point I found one person. Seems like a real waste of time. Probably not true. But yeah, Alex does actually get to it. He spends way too much time not getting to

Jordan (01:16:40.000)

it feels like he not only didn't land the plane, he crashed it into a giant ocean filled with jello. And it's just garbage.

Dan (01:16:49.000)

Well, Sully Sullenberger landed the plane, right, and Alex crashed into that plane, in the Hudson, yeah, that's what happened.

Jordan (01:16:57.000)

That's technically a landing.

Dan (01:16:58.000)

So here's what it is. Here's the big enchilada that only one person was able to figure out and tweet out.

Alex Jones (01:17:05.000)

What is it that's so criminal? That's so evil? That's so wrong? I'll tell you, and I think most of you already know it. They have anointed themselves. To not just decide what speech is okay, and what speech is gonna get fined. And once you put up with not saying those things, they're gonna have a bigger list. This is just the start. That's all huge. But what's even bigger. Drumroll please.

Jordan (01:17:41.000)

That's offensive to drums, that is offensive.

Alex Jones (01:17:45.000)

They're surveiling you. They're spying on you. They're watching what you say off platform, member Facebook and Google and Twitter said, We're gonna censor you for what you say off platform. It's not just that you're saying something they're gonna find you for when you're using PayPal. But they are saying I'm watching you. I'm surveilling you. I'm spying on you.

Dan (01:18:10.000)

So this is where Alex's stupid misreporting of stories becomes creating stories out of whole cloth. He doesn't understand the underlying story about PayPal and how this wasn't a fine, they were going to charge you it was related to fees that will be placed in your account if you're sued for crimes that involve the platform. Because Alex doesn't understand the underlying story here and just as a loose grip on the headline, he's read on like a right wing blog, he thinks that PayPal is going to find you $2,500 If you write a post on your blog that says that climate change isn't real. Now this introduces a problem. How is PayPal going to know that you're blogging about unapproved things so they can fine you. In order to accept the inaccurate and incorrect version of this story, there needs to be some mechanism in place for it to even work logistically. So Alex has written that part of the story for the audience, pulled straight from his imagination. Consider how stupid all of this is, if you believe Alex's version, PayPal would have needed to set up a super expensive part AI, part manual system to monitor all of its users behavior off site to see if they're doing anything that they could get them fined. That would require spying on like 400 million people, which would be really expensive, it'd be expensive to operate but the infrastructure to do it would also take millions upon millions of dollars to set up. So they sink all that money in, knowing that they're going to be able to recoup their losses with this fine system. You know, they're gonna start raking in that sense of censorship cash, but then oh, no, what's this? The right wing media is complaining about the terms of service. And just like that, years of investment and implementation of a worldwide censorship AI system has to be thrown out and the terms of service just go back to normal. This is legitimately what's implied by Alex's narrative. This is what you have to accept, whether you realize it or not, in order to take on Alex's version of the story, which is inaccurate because he didn't actually read the story or look into this at all, and he's just making shit up on the fly to freak out the listeners.

Jordan (01:20:02.000)

I want I'm gonna go out on a limb and I'm going to say that it would be hard to sell the shareholders on that move of like, okay guys, here's what we're gonna do. I know spying on it. I know Blackrock or whatever. I know you like making money. How about this? We spend all of it on spying on everyone. Yeah. And it's going to be good, because we'll fine them sometimes. But if they stop doing bad things, our whole business model goes out of the window. Right? That isn't also that's also an issue. I might I might argue that could be a problem

Dan (01:20:38.000)

but but at that point, we'll live in a utopia.

Jordan (01:20:42.000)

So we'll already be out of business?

Dan (01:20:44.000)

We'll take the hit. You know, if we have to suffer to create an ideal world

Jordan (01:20:49.000)

we'll take a PayPal sized flyer on this.

Dan (01:20:51.000)

Yeah, yeah. What are these surveilling, are they surveiling your I guess your social media, blogs?

Jordan (01:20:59.000)

Can you text somebody? They can't? They can't spy on your texting, right?

Dan (01:21:04.000)

PayPal's in your phone

Jordan (01:21:04.000)

Yeah, damn it. Yep, they've got everything. PayPal is everywhere.

Dan (01:21:08.000)

Don't think you can encrypt anything, either. No, you can't, PayPal sees all.

Jordan (01:21:13.000)

I mean, does Alex not think that maybe it would be limited to how you use PayPal as being the main deciding factor of whether or not they can cause a problem?Like they couldn't. They couldn't. They could not be like, ah, one time on Twitter. You said something mean? Ah, that's that's, you can't do that.

Dan (01:21:32.000)

No, not really not when it comes to like, kicking people off social media for off-site actions. It would be something like, you know, you're engaging in hate rallies.

Jordan (01:21:43.000)

Yeah, you went on Tucker Carlson and were an anti Semite.

Dan (01:21:46.000)

You can't use our platform to organize and gather an audience when off platform, what you're using that audience for, is trying to go to DEATH CON three with the Jews.

Jordan (01:21:58.000)

Yeah, let's throw this one out there. If if Heinrich Himmler was like, making a lot of money off of his bad people, and we were helping him do that, that's bad for us. We don't want to do that. That's bad.

Dan (01:22:13.000)

Well, I mean, like, okay, so like, there's also some things that are like, clearly, all right, we know what you're doing. Maybe it's not on platforms. Yeah, we know what you're doing. Like, let's say, for example, you started a GoFundMe? Yeah. And you pretended that it was to get like surgery for your dog, right, or whatever. But in reality, you were funding for a neo Nazi newsletter that you wanted to put out, you might say, yes, that's fraud. Right. Yeah. And that's off site. But that's off the platform behavior. On platform, all you know, is that maybe maybe your dog does need surgery. Here's ignoring it. Well, yeah, you're a bad person. I've lost track of this comparison. But I was enjoying it, though. The point here is he's just making shit up yet. But this is what happens when there are like misunderstandings with the underlying story that Alex has. If that's true, yeah. Then what else is true? is essentially the game that Alex is playing. But the first thing isn't true. Right. So the second thing that's built on top of it is just absurd. Yeah. Yeah. Excessive bullshit.

Jordan (01:23:15.000)

Yeah, it is. It is fun. Because you can say the premise of the idea, and people will just kind of already be on board with it. When if you even look at the premise, you go, that's not possible in a fundamental way,

Dan (01:23:29.000)

PayPal has put in a kill switch inside everyone's heart. Ah, no, no. So anyway, if you take the false version of this story, and then exaggerated the way that Alex does with the implications of his false story, of course, it's a lot easier to get really angry about it. Yeah.

Alex Jones (01:23:45.000)

When there's not words, to describe this. PayPal came out and said, we're watching and surveilling you on our platform, what you're buying what you're doing, who you're supporting, and we're watching you everywhere else. Well, who is watching us? Who are these criminals? Who are they?

Jordan (01:24:09.000)

globalists?

Alex Jones (01:24:09.000)

need to be arrested, they don't need to just be boycotted, their stock doesn't need to be down 11%, the company needs to be shut down. The people that did it need to go to prison for the rest of their lives, because they're a danger against everybody else. And they're run by the big banks that thought in late in the year 2022. It was a good time, long after they banned Alex Jones, to come out and say, Listen, you dirty, filthy Americans. We're watching your ass. And if you do one thing we don't like, we're gonna fine you and kick you off our platform. What a group of criminals. But I'll tell you who is really pathetic. It's us. If we put up with crap like this and turn our world over to people like this. We deserve everything we've got. Oh, I want get to the transgender mafia that folks are waking up to, latest developments there

Jordan (01:24:19.000)

Fuck you

Alex Jones (01:24:42.000)

on the other side, Infowars dot com, tomorrow's news today. Stay with us.

Dan (01:25:10.000)

Yeah, I got it, I gotta go,

Jordan (01:25:12.000)

you know that he brings up a really good point. Okay, they will find you $2,500 And kick you off the platform. Now, as far as I'm concerned, all things considered. That's not that bad as far as tyranny is concerned. Okay, I'm fine. 2500 That's a lot of money for me, but it's not going to bankrupt me. I'm not gonna go, I'm not gonna die, you know, and I'm kicked out and I can't use PayPal. There are other services.

Dan (01:25:39.000)

You can't go to debtors prison,

Jordan (01:25:40.000)

no. PayPal can't continue to fine me. I don't work. I'm not on their platform anymore. Right, the maximum they can hurt me with this $2,500 in Alex's world

Dan (01:25:51.000)

But they could do some damage on your credit score. Have you considered this? And then once the social credit score? They're

Jordan (01:26:01.000)

they're still they're still not surveilling me anymore. It's a one time surveillance.

Dan (01:26:05.000)

No, that's not true.

Jordan (01:26:06.000)

How is that not true?

Dan (01:26:08.000)

Because they kick you off the platform in terms of being able to use it, but they're still spying on you.

Jordan (01:26:13.000)

Why?!

Dan (01:26:14.000)

Why not?

Jordan (01:26:15.000)

That's a good point.

Dan (01:26:17.000)

They set up this fucking spy operation

Jordan (01:26:19.000)

I cannot answer this question, I cannot answer that.

Dan (01:26:21.000)

I guess if it's in order

Jordan (01:26:23.000)

The sunk cost fallacy is why they continue to spy on you.

Dan (01:26:26.000)

if it's in order to fine you, then I guess it would imply that they would stop after they kicked you off the platform. But knowing Alex, I think there's probably something else going on. Yeah, what they're actually doing is creating dirty dossiers, right. Literally everybody's they have leverage or something to use against you in some kind of a Battlefield Earth type scenario.

Jordan (01:26:47.000)

Okay. All right. I'm back on board then, this is a great idea from their point

Dan (01:26:52.000)

I was exhausted. I watched all of the Tucker interview. Alex is shit. And I just heard him say the transgender mafia. All right, here we go. I'm out of here. Bye. So yeah, this sucked. What a Sunday.

Jordan (01:27:11.000)

Oh, you know,

Dan (01:27:12.000)

Dumb PayPal narrative, COVID conspiracy of the day and Alex not realizing that Kanye was not complimenting him

Jordan (01:27:19.000)

as he you know, for for as much of a Christian as he professes to be has he considered not doing his Sunday show and going to church instead? I think we'd all be better off

Dan (01:27:28.000)

well, joke's on you. Sunday show's four to six.

Jordan (01:27:31.000)

Oh, shit. Is he a noon noon church guy?

Dan (01:27:35.000)

No, I don't think so. He was busy looking for tweets.

Jordan (01:27:38.000)

I'm gonna say he does. Yeah, whatever.

Dan (01:27:40.000)

He said he goes to Tex Marrs's church though. Which is another guy who seems to have a problem with Jewish people. Yeah. Weird all over the place in Alex's world. Yeah. so terrible. So strange. Paul Joseph Watson too. Yeah. Yeah, probably a coincidence. Anyway. Will be back Jordan, with another episode. And I'm sorry to do this to you as a as a fan of Kanye's music.

Jordan (01:28:08.000)

Oh, man. Yeah, that Yep. What you gonna do? He sucks.

Dan (01:28:13.000)

We'll be back for another episode. But until then, we have a website

Jordan (01:28:16.000)

Indeed we do, it's Knowledge Fight dot com.

Dan (01:28:18.000)

We're also on Twitter.

Jordan (01:28:19.000)

We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight.

Dan (01:28:21.000)

We'll be back but until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. Desaix Clark. I'm Wilford Snibble Snabble of the Gribble Pibble.

Steve Quayle (01:28:27.000)

And now here comes the sex robots.

Alex Jones (01:28:29.000)

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

Andy In Kansas (01:28:33.000)

Hello, Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

Alex Jones (01:28:36.000)

I love you