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N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.

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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.

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I have great respect for Knowledgefight.

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Knowledgefight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.

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Knowledgefight.

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Dan and Jordan, Knowledgefight.

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Andy in Kansas.

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Andy in Kansas.

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Stop it.

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Andy in Kansas.

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Andy in Kansas.

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It's time to pray.

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first-time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your room.

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Knowledgefight.

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N-N-N-N-Knowledgefight.com.

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I love you.

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Hey, everybody.

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Welcome back to Knowledgefight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes.

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We like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex

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Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Quick question for you.

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What's up?

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What's your Bright Spot today?

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Well, my Bright Spot today is a little bit bittersweet, I suppose.

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My Bright Spot is that this week, the world lost the bad guy.

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Oh, yes.

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Scott Hall passed away.

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Yes, I read about that.

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Obviously, not necessarily a Bright Spot that he died, but he was a wrestler who was always

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very, very exciting.

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I grew up at just the right time and watched wrestling in such a way that the WCW and the

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NWO that Scott Hall was the leading part of.

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Oh, I remember.

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Was terrifying to me.

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That was the era when I watched wrestling.

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I had two years where I was a wrestling fan, so yeah, I remember Scott Hall.

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Yeah, him and Kevin Nash, the Outsiders coming in and invading WCW, bringing Hollywood Hulk

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Hogan into the mix.

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Hulk shows up and everybody went, what?

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Everyone threw trash in the ring.

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Everybody was like, oh, no, he can't be, his American flag and shit.

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But my parents didn't let me watch wrestling when I was a kid, so there was sort of a forbidden

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aspect to it, and that made everything a little bit more sneaky, a little contraband.

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And I would go over to my friend's house and we would watch it.

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I would sleep over at his place so we could watch Monday Night Raw and WCW, Nitro.

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And there was an anarchic element to the invasion of the NWO and Scott Hall, just the cool one.

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Kevin Nash, big sexy, wasn't cool.

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Not cool.

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He wasn't as cool.

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He was big.

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He was a henchman.

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He was a henchman through and through.

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But I think he thought he was cool.

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Of course he did.

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Scott Hall was cool and scary.

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I assume all henchmen think they're cool, right?

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Otherwise there's no reason to just follow blindly some asshole.

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Probably.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, it was many fond memories of watching him work and rest in peace.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, what about you?

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I mean, strangely enough, My Bright Spot, not as bittersweet, however, still somewhat

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nostalgic.

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So if you remember Adult Swim Toonami, when they used to run anime all the time.

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Not really.

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So they are bringing back FLCL for a third and fourth season.

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Zero idea.

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And I can't begin to...

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I've described FLCL to you on at least four occasions.

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In one ear, out the other.

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Absolutely.

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So you start saying to people, okay, there's a giant iron.

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Sometimes it turns into a manga.

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FLCL might just mean rubbing tits together.

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Nobody knows.

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Anyways, the important part is that a woman hits a man in the face with a Rickenbacker

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base and mechas come out of it that they then have to fight the universe with.

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Obviously, this is a coming of age tale about a young boy experiencing puberty.

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I look forward to hearing about this for the first time for the fifth time in the future.

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Yes, exactly.

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I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Exactly.

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But it is also one of the, if not the maybe, greatest anime series of all time.

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I feel like my reference point for Adult Swim is when it was just C-Lab, Aqua Teen Hunger

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Force, and I think Family Guy.

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Maybe.

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See, if you go a few hours later, you got Gundam Wing, you got Dragon Ball Z, man, you

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got it all, buddy.

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That's the shit.

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Well, I'm glad...

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Cowboy Bebop.

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I'm glad for you.

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Jordan, we have an episode to go over today.

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Okay.

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So Alex is still on a little bit of a breaky.

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We're recording this on Thursday, so I'm not sure if he actually got back to studio today

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or whatever, but we'll get back to the present day on Monday.

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But for now, we are back still not in the present, we're in the past.

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And today, we actually...

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Delightful little bit of a request time travel episode.

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Keith reached out to me, his wife Laurel is celebrating a 40th birthday next week.

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Oh, congratulations!

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In the middle of next week.

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Happy birthday.

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In honor of that and to celebrate, Keith thought it would be fun for us to go back and enjoy

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Alex Jones' 40th birthday.

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And so we are going to be talking about February 11th, 2014.

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Oh, no!

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Alex's 40th birthday.

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Oh, man.

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It comes up once on the show that it's his birthday.

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One time.

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It's very weird that this is, what, only a few months away from the invasion of Crimea.

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It doesn't come up.

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It doesn't come up.

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Don't worry about that.

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Okay.

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There's no witchery on that aspect.

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I was going to say, if you're a witch, I'm going to be furious.

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No, no, no.

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I am witchy, but my powers are limited to some degree.

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So happy birthday, Laurel.

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Happy birthday.

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Not happy birthday to Alex.

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And not to Putin either.

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No.

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Okay.

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When's his birthday?

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Probably around the same day.

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We'll get down to this episode, but first let's take a little moment to say hello to

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some new wonks.

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Oh, that's a great idea.

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So first, Galaxy, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Galaxy.

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Thank you.

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Loved your quest.

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Next, a Dutchman who wonders why the Dutchman is called the Dutchman if he isn't Dutch.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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I think that was about Rick Smits.

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Next, I went beyond the consciousness of God and all I got was this stupid t-shirt.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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I think that one was about Rick Smits.

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Probably.

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I think these all are about Rick Smits.

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Next, Rob at Lexus Loves Buttholes.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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That was not about Rick Smits.

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That was Fitz Fitz.

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What?

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That was not.

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It's about Rob.

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Thank you.

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Next, Jeezy Kableezy.

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Robert, when are you going to become a policy wonk?

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And Dr. Occupied Texas, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank y'alls.

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This is, we are just dropping in cold.

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We don't really know what's going on.

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No idea.

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We have no context for this.

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Most of our past episodes that we've seen so far, like recently at least, have been

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2003.

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Right.

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So it's deep in Alex's past.

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He's a very different broadcaster.

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And then our other point of reference that's really fresh in our mind is 2022, 2021, Alex,

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where he's an unhinged lunatic.

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Right.

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Right.

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And so it's kind of interesting to get this in between point.

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This is pre-Trump.

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Right.

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We haven't even figured out the four ways to learn yet.

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No, he's being cagey about that.

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But there is a list of five things on this episode.

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Not ways to learn.

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Okay.

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I like lists.

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But that will, that will be a bit later in the episode.

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Here is an out of context drop though from today's show.

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Other eye down hurt my stomach.

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It made me hurt when I peed.

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This doesn't do that.

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How do you come up with all this?

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Man, apparently iodine makes it hurt when Alex pees.

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There's a product that makes it hurt when he pees.

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No, no, no.

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Other iodine.

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Other iodine.

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Than the ones he's selling.

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So, so they made the doesn't hurt when you pee iodine or Alex had syphilis for a while.

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I look, I don't care to speculate necessarily.

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I also, I will admit there is a failing in my research and that is that I didn't look

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into it to see if it's a common side effect of taking iodine that hurts when you pee.

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Right.

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Oh God.

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I was going to say.

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I was going to ask Alex to say.

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That's all.

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I didn't look into it either.

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I just assumed he had gonorrhea.

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So here is where we start.

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And Alex is on one right out the jump.

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Out the gate.

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We're breaking protocol here.

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That's all right.

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That's a good thing.

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I don't think I'm pregnant.

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I can do whatever I want.

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Well, you heard that there is Obama telling the French socialist president is completely

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above the law and the entire French socialist leadership is on record having giant Swiss

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bank accounts that are tax exempt as they raise taxes on the middle class to one hundred

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plus percent to claw back any savings that were kept back on the old 80 plus percent

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tax rate.

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And let's hear that one more time.

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Obama, I can do whatever I want.

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Best part about being president is I can do whatever I want while he's walking along talking

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to the French delegation and the French president.

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We're breaking protocol.

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That's all right.

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That's a good thing.

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I don't think I'm pregnant.

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I can do whatever I want.

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So did he not know there was a shotgun mic on him or did he know?

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No, he knew.

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This is some real petty shit.

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This is weak.

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So what had happened is that Obama was accepting a state visit from then French President Francois

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Haaland, which began with a tour of Thomas Jefferson's home at Monticello.

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When he said that they were breaking protocol, that was in reference to wanting to go to

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the terrace to look at the view, which wasn't part of the planned tour.

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Of course, because, you know, Obama joked about how he was the president, he could do

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whatever he wants.

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Alex takes this deadly seriously as opposed to him joking around about not sticking to

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the bullet points of the tour.

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Ridiculous.

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Oh, man, wasn't it, wasn't it weird when the president had like an actual sense of humor

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that was not even, not just like a solid sense of humor, but at times it quite admirable,

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you know, like with the solid writing staff, he crushed it on those timing.

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Yeah.

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He's got good timing.

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He had little things right there.

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And at no point in time did he say like, oh, the Mexicans are going to kill you.

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You know, like that was a good president for a while.

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It was.

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Yeah.

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It was.

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Yeah.

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We had a good stretch.

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We had the pettiest complaint being blown into like, aha, he admits he's a dictator.

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Yeah, I know.

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That's how shitty it was to, that's how shitty it was to be a right-winger, like shitting

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all over Obama's.

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You had to be like, oh, look at his fucking suit.

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It's tan.

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Oh, he's not fit to be president.

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And then the, you know, the flip comes when Trump becomes president and Alex accuses everyone

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else of doing basically the same game.

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah, there absolutely was not tax rates over 100% in France in 2014.

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The highest tax band in their system was on people who made over 151,200 euros a year,

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and any income above that point was taxed at a rate of 45%.

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Holland had tried to usher in an experiment where businesses that pay salaries over a

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million euros per year would have to pay a 75% payroll tax.

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But it was widely unpopular, and it wasn't continued after the two-year timetable that

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was put in place for its experiment.

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I frequently see this being reported as a tax on people who make more than a million

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euros a year, but that isn't true.

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That was the original intent of Holland's presidency, but it was deemed punitive by

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the congressional court, and it was thrown out.

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As it ever existed, for two years, this was a payroll tax imposed on businesses, not on

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the middle class, and it wasn't over 100%.

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Looking back, it's interesting to see who The Guardian describes as putting the quote

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nail in the coffin on this tax.

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That honor goes to a young upstart who had just become France's economy minister, Emmanuel

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Macron.

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God damn it!

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Wouldn't be too surprised to hear Alex liking Macron for stuff like this back then.

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Jesus Christ.

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Yep.

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It's fun to see these villains in there.

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They just keep popping back up.

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Alex's villains in doing things that he would support.

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Like on the way to becoming the villain that he hates, too.

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If Alex had jumped on early, maybe we'd all be in a different place.

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Probably not.

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So anyway, there's some trends that are going on in 2014.

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I think Alex might have discovered hipsters.

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Oh, no.

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The chicest thing is to be like a hobo who doesn't work and doesn't take care of yourself.

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Because the television tells them to, and women and men as well imprint on whatever

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television says.

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So it says, throw yourself at the biggest loser.

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So the women just keep throwing themselves, believe me, I witnessed it in Austin, at the

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biggest losers they can in delusional mass psychosis, narcissism.

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And then they just throw themselves at loser after loser, the dirtier, the dumber.

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The bigger the loser, the better they are.

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The bigger the winner, the worse you are.

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And then the women just keep waiting to find Valhalla because television said they would

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get it.

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What?

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And the chicest thing is hobo clothing and living in dumpsters.

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We've got a Leanne McAdoo report on that coming up and not having air conditioning and not

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having money.

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It's just so stylish.

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It's so cool.

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Oh my gosh, Obama, Obama, our Lord and savior, Barack Obama.

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Wait, so that's Obama's fault?

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I don't understand what the problem here is.

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There's a lot of really stupid thoughts just sort of being woven together.

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Yeah.

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But one of the things that I think is really fascinating about this is the way that Alex

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doesn't seem to take as much issue with the people dressing like hobos, the men dressing

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like hobos.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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His problem seems to be that women are attracted to-

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You should be fucking me!

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I'm big and loud and powerful.

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Why are you talking to those men who are soft?

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Yeah.

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Weak.

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It does seem like the complaint is largely directed at women for being attracted to the

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thing Alex doesn't want them to be.

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And they must be being brainwashed by the TV, which is under the direction of Obama.

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Of course.

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I don't want to, listen, I don't want to say that people can't wear skinny jeans in the

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comfort of their own home.

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I'm just saying, don't put it on my TV and tell women to be attracted to it, sir!

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Sir!

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I understand, sort of intellectually, this generational confusion about aesthetics changes,

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but I don't understand why you gotta get so mad about it.

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Like legit, how far away from the 40 year old virgin are we?

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In terms of movies?

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Yeah.

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Probably quite a ways.

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Yeah.

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I think that might have come out quite a bit before 2014.

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No idea.

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Right.

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All movies happened.

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I don't want to ruin it, but there was actually a Mandela Effect kind of thing for me on this

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episode about a movie that is similar to what you're experiencing with the 40 year old virgin,

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I believe.

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Okay.

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But we'll get to that when we get to it.

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Alright.

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For now, Alex has a gun fear story to bring up.

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Ladies and gentlemen, the Washington Times and others are reporting, here's the headline,

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Gun owners beware, DC man faces jail for having empty shotgun shell.

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They swat team raid the successful businessman with no criminal record, including misdemeanors,

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pointed guns at him and his wife, roughed him up, pulled the 16 year old out of the

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shower, tore the place apart, he kept his guns in another home outside DC, but they

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found a spent shotgun case, shotgun shell, plastic, and they are charging him and he

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faces multi years in jail, at least a one year incarceration.

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And DC says they're going to throw the book at him.

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A 40 year old virgin came out in 2005.

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Oh, I was so close.

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Yeah, so close.

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I was so close.

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So this clip, Alex is talking about a guy named Mark Wittecek, Wittecek, and Alex is

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kind of leaving out some important details.

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Like for instance, why was this guy's house searched?

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Obviously the police were there, you know, they weren't there just trying to seek out

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an empty shotgun shell.

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There must have been a reason for them to be there.

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You would think.

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You know, it's a little suspicious.

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What's going on here?

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Seems like there could be more to the story.

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So Wittecek was going through a divorce in 2012 and his estranged wife complained to

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the police on multiple occasions that he had threatened her with a gun.

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This led to two police visits during both of which they found illegal ammunition in

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his possession.

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The items found in the first visit weren't able to be brought into the case because the

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police didn't have a warrant, though Wittecek did consent to a search of his house.

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Just throw it out.

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In DC, only people with registered guns can possess ammunition, so the shotgun shell,

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along with a box of muzzle loader bullets, were a problem, couldn't own those.

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Ultimately, he ended up getting sentenced to time served, being on a firearm registry,

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and getting a $50 fine.

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All in all, this probably seems like a bit of an overreaction and a waste of people's

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time, but ultimately, it's probably good that the allegations of threats of murderous

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domestic violence were taken seriously.

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Threats like the ones alleged by Wittecek's ex-wife are often ignored and they lead to

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tragedies.

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Seems like a rare case where police acted, and there's something to be said for that.

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This wasn't actually the biggest problem that Wittecek had to worry about, though.

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Also, as part of the fallout from his divorce, his ex-wife provided DC officials with some

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tax documents about Wittecek's business, and they didn't look good.

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That's not gonna go well.

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Nope.

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He got in some problems.

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Some trouble with that.

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Hell, you know.

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Anyway, the point here is that there's more to this story than the way Alex is reporting

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it.

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It's important when you're doing these kinds of gun martyrdom presentations that you present

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the central character as being as blameless as possible.

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There's no room for nuance, because you need it to be black and white, and open and shut

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case where the person is having their guns taken for no reason, and the state's actions

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are solely motivated by a tyrannical desire to take everyone's guns.

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That's why, when Alex does decide to touch on why the raid happened, here's how he puts

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it.

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And DC says they're gonna throw the book at him.

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All because a disgruntled family member dropped a dime on him.

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That's what tyrannies are like.

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It was a disgruntled family member who dropped a dime, not an estranged wife in the middle

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of an ugly divorce who alleged this dude had threatened her multiple times with a gun.

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Recognizing that would cast too much of a shadow on this story, and risk making the

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gun martyr not look as blameless as he needs to look for this kind of narrative to work.

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You don't want to deal with the realities of this stuff.

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No way.

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No.

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No way.

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You can't let your audience know that this guy was accused of threatening his wife with

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a gun on multiple occasions, and that's why the police came in the first place?

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It sure seems like they should take his guns away.

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I mean, it's at the point where the real lesson of stories like they should be that guns shouldn't

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be outlawed.

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It should be outlawed for men to have guns, and women should have to hold a gun pointed

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towards a man's face in every interaction.

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Because this is fucking nuts.

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I mean, obviously, this is not a serious proposal.

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I don't know.

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I don't think it's a terrible idea.

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It would solve a lot of problems.

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I think- Not all of them.

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I think, in the real world, the fact that an allegation like this was made of, like,

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my ex-husband threatened me with a gun, the fact that you do end up taking it seriously,

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pay him a visit, I think things were carried out appropriately.

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And maybe it's not that big of a deal that he has a box of muzzle-loading bullets.

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Maybe that's not.

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Maybe that is fitting to just be like, hey, here's a $50 fine, and this is going to go

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in a record, because on the off chance that someone else says that you threatened him

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with a gun, we can now establish a pattern or something.

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Right.

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Right.

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And well, I mean, I recognize that.

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I'm just, you know, the level of men having ammunition inside their homes with guns and

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then getting a divorce is a violent, violent affair.

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You know?

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It's just all too often.

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You're talking like Alex's nightmare here.

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I'm fine with that.

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Discussing the intersection of masculinity and guns.

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I think I want to be living in Alex's nightmare.

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Fair enough.

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So in this next clip, Alex says something that I wish he would talk more about.

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About 80% of countries in the nation's empire throughout history are hyper-evil.

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That's a guesstimation reading so much history.

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Eight times out of ten, they're really bad.

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The other 20%, it varies from bad to somewhat free.

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But most governments are tyrannies and they just get worse and worse from there until

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everything collapses.

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This clip is why Alex's show sucks.

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He's introduced a very bizarre position about the relative evilness of past governments

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and empires, but this is the extent of his conversation about it.

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I hear a clip like that and all I want is more specifics.

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Like what countries are in the 20% that weren't total evil tyrannies?

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What's the differentiating factor between them?

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It seems like this is a conclusion he's pretending to have reached after deep research so I want

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to hear about what he's learned.

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But instead all I get is this meaningless platitude that really is just an expression

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of Alex's opposition to the idea of government, though he's too cowardly to be an anarchist.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean...

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What are you...

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Let's just go down the fucking list, man.

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All right.

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Bad governments versus non-tyrannical governments.

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Where do we start?

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Well...

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Zero BC.

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The Romans.

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How'd they do?

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Probably a tyranny, maybe.

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Probably.

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I don't know, though.

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There's a part of me that worries that it's governments that were headed by people Alex

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deems white.

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Yeah.

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There's a part of me that worries that that's it, that that would be about 20% of the governments

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he's aware of.

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I'm guessing he's throwing the United States government in there.

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Well, evil tyranny now.

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Well, sure.

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I doubt he's...

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Not in the 50s.

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I mean, he's not willing to throw the Nazis in there as one of the good 20% just yet.

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Probably not.

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You're right.

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I don't know, but the fact that he doesn't elaborate on it just drives me nuts.

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It makes me mad.

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I want to know.

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I'm interested in his thought, and he doesn't give me that thought.

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Why would you say 80%?

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Is there something you're basing that off of?

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Well, you said it's a guesstimation.

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Sure, but if you're gonna guesstimate, what are you basing that off of?

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You read a book?

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Deep research.

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What?

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Reading so much about history.

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How many...

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There are a million billion governments in history.

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I just want specifics.

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Okay.

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No.

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So, the National Guard is out of pocket.

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I mean, sure, I'm fine with that.

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Sure.

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The National Guard trains to fight anti-government Second Amendment supporters, that's the quote.

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And they train where the school teachers are conservative gun owners, so they bio-weapon

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the town and start shooting everyone, and they're training as if this is the new scenario.

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This article, drugs links to the media tracker's article, it's a big article, but the original

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is WSAZ out of Ohio, and then the examiner says feds identify Second Amendment activists

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as terrorists.

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Yeah.

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And what's really going on is the scripting.

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This is what a re-education camp looks like on a mass scale, where in the dramas, the

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TV shows, the movies, the cartoons, the bad guys, the child molesters, the meth dealers,

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the child kidnappers, the torturers, the devil worshipers, the people that are going to blow

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the school up, are all the gun-owning patriots that like George Washington.

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Literally.

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If you watch television, you see it.

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It's just everywhere.

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Bone-chilling.

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Now, this was going on secretly under Clinton, when we discovered it and got classified secret

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documents and made national news with it.

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Now, and I've told you this the last five years, it's operational, they've gone public

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with it.

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Do you know what that means?

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They're not doing this behind the scenes, ladies and gentlemen.

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They're rolling it out in almost every drill now of attacks on shopping malls and attacks

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on schools, and we've covered this, the AP's covered it, where the homeschoolers in Michigan

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all over the state, they call out the elementary kids, blow up a bus or a car that Homeland

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Security pays for, scare the kids, don't even tell them it's a drill, and then that people

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in Campbell come up and say, I'm for homeschooling and the Second Amendment, I'm going to blow

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your brains out.

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And the kids get totally dramatized, and the police go, we only know about the ones where

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the parents freak out and sue, we're sorry, won't do it again, here's a federal grant.

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So the Michigan story we've talked about in the past, so I'm going to hold off on that.

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I remember that one.

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The story that Alex is talking about at the beginning of this clip that's inspiring all

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of this is out of Portsmouth, Ohio, where the Ohio Army National Guard 52nd Civil Support

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Unit in conjunction with local first responders held a drill where the scenario was, quote,

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two school employees who are disgruntled over the government's interpretation of the Second

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Amendment plot to use chemical, biological, and radiological agents against members of

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the local community.

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The motivation behind the specific scenario was to maintain awareness that not all terrorism

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is foreign-based, and that domestic terrorism does exist.

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That's the reason they used that as part of the scenario.

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Alex let something really interesting slip towards the end of that clip, though.

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He's saying that all the training exercises use right-wing Second Amendment supporters

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as the villains in their scenario because this is about training the police and the

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public to look at them as evil terrorists.

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But then Alex admits that he only knows about the exercises where the parents freak out

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and sue or something.

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Right.

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Alex doesn't know anything about this topic except the cases that he sees reported in

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the media that he consumes.

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He reads exclusively extreme right-wing news sources, and they only report on these training

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exercises when there's an opportunity to create right-wing victimhood narratives.

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And thus, the image that Alex gets from the media he consumes is that every or almost

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every exercise involves branding patriots as terrorists.

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Right.

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But that's not true at all.

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A ton of the scenarios that the National Guard groups do every year have to do with natural

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disasters where there's not even a human villain involved.

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But beyond that, if you go through their press release archive, you can find plenty of examples

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from the timeframe that Alex is talking about here even that don't fit his mold.

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In August 2013, the New York National Guard ran a scenario exercise where they had a chemical

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fallout, but it wasn't due to any terrorism.

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It was because of an accidental train derailment.

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Alex probably didn't hear too much about that or how people were scared.

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Not important.

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No, probably not.

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No.

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In July 2013, the North Carolina National Guard did an exercise that was based on training

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their rapid response team and involved dealing with protesters who were having a sit-in at

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a water treatment facility.

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The fake protest group they had in that one was called the Pink Panthers, and they were

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very much coded as a left-wing organization.

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Alex probably didn't see that reported in Drudge, and so he doesn't know it exists.

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Not important.

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In 2014, the South Carolina National Guard did an exercise called Objective Indigo, which

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had to do with terrorist groups taking hostages, but they weren't right-wing patriot gun owner

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groups or anything.

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Another example is the yearly exercise that Northcom runs called Vibrant Response, where

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a simulated nuclear attack happens, and first responders practice responding to things that

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are likely to come up.

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In that scenario, there isn't even usually a need for a specific person or group behind

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the bombing, because the focus is on the immediate response, like dealing with the wounded and

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what have you.

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There's no real need for a larger storyline.

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Sometimes people running these exercises add a villain to give it more flavor, but it doesn't

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necessarily always happen.

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To Alex's perception, it very well may seem like every scenario-based exercise that law

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enforcement or the National Guard does involves maligning people like himself, but that perception

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isn't based on reality.

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It's the product of him taking in only extreme right-wing news, where the only time he ever

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hears a story reported about scenario training exercises, it's someone crying bloody murder

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about how a fictitious right-wing domestic terror group is part of the exercise in question.

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All the other ones, scenarios based around natural disasters or accidents, scenarios

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where the threat is a left-wing group, scenarios where the villain is a nondescript foreign

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terror group, all of these don't exist in Alex's reporting because he doesn't know or

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doesn't care that they exist.

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The media that he's taking in drives home the message he wants to hear, and he in turn

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repeats and solidifies that message to his audience as if it's the product of research,

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when it's just regurgitating bullshit links that he's skimmed on drudge.

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Sure, but I mean, at the same time there is another option, which is that it has been

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an immensely effective strategy for yet even the slightest fictional hint of gun ownership

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being questioned to shriek bloody murder as loud as you possibly can.

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The Mayak document was so reasonable and borderline restrained of like, well, they killed the

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most cops ever, but there are buds, that kind of thing, and they freaked the fuck out over

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it.

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It's true.

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Even the slightest notion, and it's effective because it's kept us from... I mean, it's

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illegal to study how many people cops kill every day.

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It's illegal, that kind of shit.

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They're good at it.

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Yeah, and I think, actually, even in this next clip, Alex kind of expresses the similar

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thing that you're talking about, this idea of like, we have to make a fucking huge deal

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out of this.

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Everything, instantly.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And it's going on everywhere, and now it's on the TV everywhere, and it's in sitcoms

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and dramas and children's shows.

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Jacari Jackson reported on it last year.

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We showed all these cartoons, Green Lantern, The New Super Friends, all of it, all these

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shows where the militia's like wearing tri-corner hats going, we believe in America and the

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right to bear arms.

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We're going to blow up the dam and kill everybody in the town.

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This is mind control.

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They are scripting that we're the terrorists, folks, and let me tell you what they're going

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to do.

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If we don't get them off balance and make a big deal out of this, everybody's saying,

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oh, Obama's done, he's been damaged, he's a dead duck politically, yeah, he's a lame

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duck.

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No, they're not.

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This is a dangerous time in American history, undoubtedly on every front.

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Folks, that's why he's running around saying, got caught on video in France saying, I can

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quote, do whatever I want.

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In fact, let's just play that clip right now in case people just join us.

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This is out right now from the Weekly Standard, it's also up on at followers.com, here it

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is.

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Can't stop playing that clip.

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Obama wasn't in France, he was at Alex's buddy, Thomas Jefferson's place in Marcello.

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Right, right, right.

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But he was with the French president, so I guess Alex got confused.

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Anywhere the French president is, is France.

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Technically, he's like a Wi-Fi hotspot.

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Absolutely.

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But for Le Monde Francophone.

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He is his own embassy, everywhere he stands is foreign soil.

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Mais oui.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, that mentality there of we gotta make a big deal out of everything, or else

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people will recognize that there's a point to this.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, it's so crazy, it's so crazy listening to him freak out about, how dare they do that!

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You're the sixth, where you're like, yeah man, we, yeah, yeah!

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Also it's funny to be like, listening to this, and he's like, this is the most dangerous

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time in American history, it's like, alright, wait a few years bud.

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Dude, I would go back to 2014 in a heartbeat.

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Yeah, I would love to spend- Safe as shit!

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I would love to spend my time critiquing his dumb arguments about cartoons.

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Oh, god, so good.

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That'd be much more fun than the reality of the world that he covers now.

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So I think that clip also illustrates something really strange in Alex's worldview, and that

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is a deep desire to impose harsh censorship on people who don't agree with him.

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I didn't watch the short lived and not very well received Green Lantern animated series

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he's talking about, but I know well enough that the premise of the character, and I know

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that the villains in it weren't second amendment patriot types who wear tri-corner hats.

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I mean, unless they were all yellow.

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It could be red lantern coats.

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Yes!

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You got there.

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Can't believe I landed it.

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You got there!

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It wasn't a pretty landing, but it landed.

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That's what's important.

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Call me- Anyone you walk away from, that's a good joke, right?

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Call me the Sully Sullenberger of jokes.

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Wasn't pretty, but we got down.

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So I would guess that there's like one episode of that show where some villain of the week

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is similar enough to Alex's militia weirdo identity, and he can claim that it's an attack

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on him.

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And this is completely unacceptable to Alex.

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Any time the characteristics he associates with himself are used to depict a villain

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in a show, that's secretly the government pre-programming the people to be against him.

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It's basically an attack.

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So what's the solution to that?

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I guess the only thing that makes sense for Alex to support would be making a rule that

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villains in TV shows and cartoons and books and movies can't have any characteristics

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that make them similar to right-wing extremists or gun and militia weirdos.

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Absolutely not.

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They can only be the heroes.

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Right.

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Otherwise it's government pre-programming them.

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Otherwise it's programming them.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Because this isn't like censorship really, because depicting characters like this, it's

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not a creative act or a function of speech.

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It's a premeditated attack by the globalists.

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Alex just wants the globalists to stop attacking him, and the only way that can be done is

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by banning any negative depictions of people like him.

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It makes total sense.

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Yeah, obviously.

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His ideas are stupid.

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When the emperor has no clothes, you kill anybody who says you don't have any clothes.

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It makes perfect sense.

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That story is dumb.

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What should have happened is the emperor's people should have just killed that kid, and

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then everybody else would have been like, you're right, you do have clothes.

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Great clothes, buddy.

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You got the best clothes, man.

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Your clothes.

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Whoa!

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So this is all like pre-scripting, right?

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It's obvious.

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It makes a terrible, terrible metaphor here.

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This isn't a game.

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And they're scripting it so when they blow stuff up and release bioweapons, you name

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it, blow up dams, you name it, sky's the limit, people will already believe, yeah, they kept

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saying these guys were going to do it.

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This is the most obvious frame-up I've ever seen in my life.

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I mean, this is like if your neighbor ran around for a week saying, you know, Bill's

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a cocaine dealer, Bill's a cocaine dealer, and then, you know, you call the cops, the

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cops come pull over Bill, and there's the cocaine in the back, right where Bob the neighbor

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said it was.

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What?

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Any smart police would say, you know, how did you know about that?

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Oh, I don't know.

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I just knew.

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So no police would say it?

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Let's take you in for questioning.

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It is so obvious the frame-up is going on.

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So Bob planted the drugs.

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I guess another explanation for knowing where Bill is keeping his cocaine is because, I

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don't know, let's just say that Bill does a daily radio show where he works really hard

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to scare the shit out of his audience and then kind of poke them closer and closer to

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thinking that maybe keeping their cocaine in a certain place is the solution to all

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their problems.

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Maybe Bill has a weird track record of denying that people like himself are capable of keeping

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their cocaine in a specific location and that any time there's any clear instances of someone

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like him stashing cocaine in that specific location, it was a globalist setup.

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Maybe at that point, Bob would get a sense that maybe Bill likes to keep his cocaine

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in that location.

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It seems like a strong, suspicious kind of thing.

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Maybe Bob decided to listen to the same radio show and bought the same book, Where to Hide

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Your Cocaine.

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Right.

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Where not.

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Where not to hide your cocaine.

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Anyway, this is kind of the larger point of some of Alex's shit.

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He would love to ban all criticism of people like himself, but because that's just not

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possible and his brand doesn't really allow him to openly advocate for that, these TV

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shows get used to preemptively declare that anyone who is similar to Alex has similar

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beliefs to Alex, possibly enjoys Alex's work.

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Anyone like that who's accused of committing a violent act is just a globalist setup to

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make Alex and the Patriots look bad.

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That's why they did the TV shows to begin with, so they could pull off this tarnishing

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of Alex's character, which seems like a lot of work for very little payoff, when you could

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tarnish his character just by listening to his stupid show.

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It's smart of Alex to do stuff like this though, particularly at this point, because a few

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months after this episode is recorded, Jared and Amanda Miller, two big Infowars fans,

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killed three people, including two cops in Las Vegas.

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In May 2012, Jared had written a post on Infowars, his website, they had a bit of a message board

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previously.

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Sure.

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Don't do that anymore.

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Probably smart.

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Smart.

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Smart.

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But on this message board, he had posted a blog post titled, quote, the police, to kill

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or not to kill, where he discussed being on probation for selling weed.

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He was having difficulty in his life and was particularly concerned with the idea that

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the police would show up to his house for a search, most likely because he was not allowed

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to own guns, but had guns.

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Had a lot of guns.

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His post strongly mirrors a lot of Alex's ideas too.

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Quote, I do not wish to kill police.

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I understand that most of them believe they're doing the right thing, yet I will not go to

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jail because I have not committed a crime.

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I would rather die than be labeled as a criminal.

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Let them call me a terrorist.

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Let them label me a fanatic, some nut job.

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I know the truth and so does God.

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I'm sure our founding fathers were labeled as such.

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Call me a radical.

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I'll wear that badge with pride because America is a radical idea.

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Our founding fathers were such.

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They were terrorists.

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Well, that's one of the most repeated points from Alex's documentaries is an out of context

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drop of someone at a government seminar saying the founding fathers were terrorists, which

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Alex uses as a claim that the government hates anyone who believes in the Constitution.

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And that message is echoed in this guy's post.

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The post itself concludes, quote, it is our duty as American citizens to stand against

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tyranny, to stand against corruption at all levels.

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How did this happen?

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Patriots like me could be resting under the boot of tyrants, and as I plead for help from

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my fellow Americans, they just walk on by, all the while thinking at least it's not happening

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to me.

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Yet the sad thing is it's happening to them.

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So do I kill cops and make a stand when they come to get me?

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I would prefer to die than sit in their jail when I have done nothing to hurt anyone.

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Alex knows the reality that there's a not insignificant part of his audience that's

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like that, that are right on the edge of committing violent acts.

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Thankfully, most of them don't end up following through with them, but Alex does need a built-in

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excuse for the ones that do, and he builds that excuse by complaining about TV shows

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being predictive programming that are set up to make it look like people who are his

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fans would do things like kill cops.

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And of course, after Jared and Amanda killed those three people, Alex immediately called

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it a false flag, because that's the payoff for the work that he's doing here in February,

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being able to feign ignorance and like, oh, oh my, whenever your audience commits acts

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of domestic terrorism.

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Yeah.

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It's the entire game.

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Yeah.

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And the idea that it would matter is silly whenever after like, if you went and re-watched

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Captain Planet, the evil rat villain is left of center to Nancy Pelosi.

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Like that's the level of, if they were really, if cartoons were helping out, we would be

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in a different world right now.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Yeah.

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And I think that there are left-wing villains in shows.

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Oh, totally.

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Yeah.

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And I don't remember ever taking offense to that.

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No.

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Even if it's something that I, like, I do understand that there are left-wing terrorist

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groups.

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A lot of them, even like animal liberation groups.

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Well, I mean, 12 Monkeys.

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Environmental groups.

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Yeah, 12 Monkeys.

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Wasn't Brad Pitt supposed to be freeing the animals?

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That's ostensibly left-wing terrorism.

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Right, absolutely.

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And I understand that.

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And I don't take such offense at the notion of that being just sort of a reality that

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people are fine to discuss.

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Yeah.

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My lesson wasn't like, oh, their ideals were wrong.

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It was like bad plan.

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I don't think, I don't think that the reality and the discussion of their existing left-wing

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terrorism, I don't think that makes me feel like people are saying that everyone on the

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left is a terrorist.

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No.

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And it seems to be the way Alex engages with the world, which is childish and really dumb.

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Yeah, we have the FBI to make you believe everybody on the left is a terrorist.

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Fine.

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So Alex gets to talking about his old buddies.

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Okay.

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The John Birch Society.

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Oh, God dammit.

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Oh, Ron Paul supporters.

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Yeah, oh, they're terrorist police.

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Go ahead and arrest them.

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I saw that in Law Enforcement Magazine years ago.

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It said, you know, they got to get us out of the UN sticker from the John Birch Society.

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Go ahead and take them in and chiefs, you support them.

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We're sure there's something they're doing wrong.

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Statistically folks, John Birchers are probably the lowest crime rate of anybody out there.

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Everybody knows that.

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Really?

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Who studies history, criminology.

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I mean, I can't think of more upstanding people than the John Birchers I've known in my life.

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I'm not even part of the group.

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Really?

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But they list them as evil terrorists basically.

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The more upstanding you are, the more you won't sell out, the stronger you are, the

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more committed you are.

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Of course you're listed as an enemy by this criminal takeover.

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I'd love for Alex to present that magazine article about preemptively arresting Birchers

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because I don't think it exists.

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Yeah, I would be surprised.

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I'd love for him to just show me that.

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Also on the point of whether or not Birchers are the most upstanding people, I have some

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points of contention.

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If you're talking about like financial crimes, then the membership of the John Birch Society

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makes up some of the most criminal cadre of people.

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I was going to say, if you talk about wage theft alone, the Koch brothers have stolen

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trillions of dollars.

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And so many other manufacturing interests that were part of the group.

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But even beyond that, if you look at some of their founding members, he had some shady

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things.

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Like you mentioned, Fred Koch is an absolute historical monster, and according to Jane

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Meyer's book Dark Money, he profited from building oil refining capabilities for Hitler

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in the 30s.

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Hell yeah he did.

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Another founding member was Revilo P. Oliver, who was forced to step down from membership

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in the JBS in 1966 because he was such an ardent white nationalist and anti-Semite that

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he made them look bad.

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He would go on to be a part of the National Alliance and be an inspiration for William

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Luther Pierce when he was writing the Turner Diaries, which is essentially the Bible for

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white supremacist terrorists.

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Also Pierce himself was a Bircher for a while before he needed to seek out something stronger.

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Willis Cardo, the complete piece of shit anti-Semite racist founder of the Liberty Lobby, was a

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Bircher, as was Tom Metzger, the neo-Nazi founder of the white Aryan resistance and

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one-time Grand Wizard of the Klan.

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The John Birch Society actually is 100% just good upstanding people if you pretend all

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the examples of really high-level monsters don't exist, all the examples of real serious

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shitheads and influential shitheads.

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You're not just talking about like, oh, there was a racist in the group who posted bad things

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on Twitter.

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No, no, no.

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No, no, no.

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Tom Metzger, Revilo P. Oliver, William Luther Pierce, these are problem people.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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These are people who are like, why wouldn't we overthrow a government for the people just

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so I can get more money?

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I want some stuff.

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No, no, no.

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They're evil.

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That's some of them.

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Evil shit.

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No, no, no.

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That's some of the businessier folks.

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Right, right, right.

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There's also just some, hey, I want a white country folks.

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I do, well, yeah.

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Who strangely gravitated very strongly to the John Birch Society.

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Can't imagine why that is.

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Yeah, I do appreciate that the rich have so overwhelmingly destroyed and dominated our

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media that they're like, that we're all like, oh man, shoplifting is wrong.

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And then John Birch Society filled with the nicest people in the world.

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Sure.

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They're almost 40% responsible for climate change.

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By themselves.

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I have to crunch some numbers on that.

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Yeah.

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Oh, I got to consult an actuary.

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So look, Alex has some strong words here.

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Because they're scared of you.

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These crooks are scared of men and women who have honor in their hearts and who want freedom.

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And we're being listed as the terrorist.

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I am listed as someone who wants violence and a revolution on MSNBC and CNN.

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Because I tell them, I know you're preparing for war with us.

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And if you try it, 1776 will commence again.

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Those aren't just words.

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We're taking action.

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I'm sure that's exactly how Jared Miller felt, and it's essentially his entire explanation

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for why he ended up killing three people a few months after this episode.

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He's really clear in his post that he feels like his constitutional rights have been violated

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and that if he fights back, they'll call him a radical, but they only call him a radical

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because he's standing up for what's right.

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He never says that the idea of killing cops is his way of commencing 1776, but he might

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as well.

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To be clear, I don't think that there's a direct line between Alex's comments on this

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specific episode and Jared's rationalization for why it was necessary for him to kill three

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people.

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I'm saying that the consistent content on Alex's show and the editorial perspective

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as a whole informed Jared's rationalization for why it was necessary for him to kill three

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people, and this clip is just one of a litany of examples that fade into the extremist background.

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Yeah.

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Sick.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, you know, it is one of those things where you're trained to think, oh, there's

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an inciting element to Alex's, oh, something he said must have incited somebody.

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Right, right.

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Like an A to B thing.

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Right, right, right.

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When in reality you've just created such void of fucking empty violence that there's nowhere

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else for it to go.

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Yeah, and it's kind of alarming.

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I was looking at Alex's site, obviously, as he's been on a breaky and trying to see what's

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going on.

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And one of their new URLs is BlackPill.news.

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Oh, great.

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And it's like you guys are playing into something that, whether or not it's intentional, it's

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like that void that you're talking about is like, well, now you're going to try and create

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mass shootings out of it or something.

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Okay, I would go with breaking news electric boogaloo.

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That's not terrible, right?

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I think you'd have to go with like electric boogaloo.news.news.news is kind of like what

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is branding.

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Right, right, right.

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That's fair.

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A lot of these, what is it?

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One of them was like tomorrowsnews.news.

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This is bad.

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That's not good.

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No, you can't do this.

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No, you got to figure that out.

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So we know that Alex loves them constitutional sheriffs.

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Loves them.

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He has a little story about one of them.

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Yeah, I do like the sheriff of Liberty County, Florida.

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He read the statute on air with us.

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I read the statute when he got arrested, the sheriff, and it said if someone's going to

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or from work or transporting money, they can have a concealed firearm in the vehicle for

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their security without a permit.

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But if you feel that they were transporting an outside of that, it's written where they

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can, written is a bad statute.

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He said, listen, you arrested this guy with no criminal record for a gun coming from his

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work.

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Let him go.

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He said to his deputies, you want to carry guns off duty too, don't you?

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You like me?

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Let him go.

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Get rid of that fake report.

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They arrested him.

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The governor tried to make sure he went to jail.

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The jury, no building.

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The jury said, no, I'm guilty.

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So this is about Nick Finch, who was a just elected sheriff of Liberty County in 2013.

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He decided that he didn't like that someone was arrested for a concealed carry violation

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of a concealed loaded firearm.

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So he unilaterally had him released.

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To which he replied, I am the law.

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Right.

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This led to him being arrested on an accusation of tampering with an arrest record.

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And Alex actually is correct.

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The jury found him not guilty and he was ultimately reinstated to his position as sheriff.

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This whole thing made Finch something of a hero in the constitutional sheriff community.

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The problem is that actions have consequences.

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And as it turns out, sometimes those consequences are really bad.

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Floyd Eugene Parrish was the man who Finch unilaterally released on the concealed carry

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charge in 2013.

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And in 2016, Parrish got into an argument with someone at his house and murdered him

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with a gun.

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Oh, well, I probably won't get covered on Info Wars.

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So it kind of like it didn't happen, you know?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, that was, that was later.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know, that's like saying that something in the past then leads to something in the

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future and that just doesn't make any sense.

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Yeah.

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Only the now happens.

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Everybody knows that.

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Yep.

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And I'm not sure any indications of things.

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No.

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No, no, no.

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It'd be like saying that foreign policy decisions from 30 years ago somehow have an effect on

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foreign policy decisions now.

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That's crazy.

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It's just weird that this guy, Finch the sheriff, overstepped his authority in a very brazen

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way in order to get one guy out of prison for a concealed carry violation.

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And the right wing really turned him into a hero about it.

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And then they sort of just dropped the story and a few years later, the guy who he unilaterally

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let out of prison murdered a guy.

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Right.

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Right, right, right.

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It's just weird.

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Well, if there was anything I remember...

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It's kind of sort of a counter argument to the whole thing, right?

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I mean...

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The fact that he went on to murder somebody.

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You know, you bring up all of these examples and you think it doesn't change the truth,

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which is that everyone should have a gun all the time on them, pointed at everybody else

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and if you're going to do an argument, you should fire.

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One in your boot.

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And absolutely one in your boot.

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And I have an extra one in your boot.

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Totally.

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Berenger.

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Yeah.

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So I want to stress this.

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This is an experience that I find fascinating.

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It's uniform.

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I cannot think of a counterexample of this.

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Every single sheriff who's ever been brought up on Alex's show, you look into them a little

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bit and there's something real fucked up.

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Yeah, they're nut bags.

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It is one of the truisms of researching Infowars is that if someone's a sheriff, they're a

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mess.

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Yeah.

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No, I mean, well, in order to be a constitutional sheriff, your thoughts have to begin with

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the place.

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The founding fathers loved giving unilateral authority to one person.

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The highest law in the land.

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That's what the founding fathers, looking at King George, thought, no, no, no, no.

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We need one in every city, in every state, baby.

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No King George, Sheriff of Nottingham.

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Sheriff of Nottingham, baby.

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That's how we do it.

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But I think that you have your Richard Max and your Joe Arpaio's and those sorts, and

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they're the higher profile folk.

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Right.

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Well, you got that dude from Milwaukee.

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There's people all over the place.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Oh, you're talking about David.

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The guy with the funny hat.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Dude with the funny hat.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What a monster.

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I'm talking about even low end guys.

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I'm talking about even like completely forgettable, never a big media name sheriff.

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They're still across the board fucked up.

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If they're brought up on Info Wars as a hero, they're a mess.

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Nutbags.

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So we're in 2014 now, and there's some things that are different than the present.

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Yeah, Alex is in the midst of figuring out how much he owes for losing these Sandy Hook

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cases in the present day.

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Right.

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In 2014, those fears were not in his mind, and so he was really, really proud of Dan

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Badani.

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Oh, no.

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And the minute...

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Oh, no.

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The reason I'll come out first when they stage a false flag, and I know that, is they know

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we've got reporters and myself and auxiliary reporters around the country that are going

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to go to their press conferences when they stage a Boston bombing or an event.

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We're going to have our people there in hours.

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We're going to expose the drills, the setup.

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We're going to get the photos the FBI says don't look at.

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They had secret service when Obama wasn't even there.

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Come and threaten Dan Badani with all sorts of bodily harm if he kept asking questions

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in the press conference about the drill.

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And the FBI looked at the media, and they said, you do not talk to this man or look

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at his photos.

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And the media literally saluted, except a few national media came over and said, we

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know it's a drill.

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They're killing people.

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They're finding them dead in the rivers.

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Oh, my God.

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Man, you've got a lot of courage.

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People can make jokes about people like Badani because he's a real normal guy and everything

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is up there with his accent, but he's a real guy who's got courage, not once, not twice,

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but three times.

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They have feds come up and start bumping into him going, you better watch it, punk.

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You know something's going to happen.

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He said, fine.

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Do whatever you're going to do.

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I'm going to ask the questions because he's not a coward.

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Wow.

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Badani sounds a lot like you.

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You're talking about yourself here as opposed to the actual reality of Dan Badani.

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I do love the image, though, of the people being like, you don't pay attention to this

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man.

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Don't look at those pictures.

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I want one time for the entire press corps to stand up and salute.

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What kind of lunatic world is that?

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I mean, look, we covered this whole time period of the Boston bombing and I've watched those

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videos and for the most part, everybody is fucking annoyed with Dan Badani being there

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and acting like a total asshole.

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He's just a shithead.

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Yeah, because the city is in a state of acute grieving and terror.

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They're scared, there's a bomber on the loose, and you have this guy grandstanding and trying

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to turn it into a PR stunt for a dickhole guy in Texas.

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It's such a distasteful thing and you can see people not like, oh my God, we're so scared

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of the information you're presenting.

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It's just, what the fuck is wrong with you?

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That's what's going on there.

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Oh, totally.

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No, the authorities weren't mad.

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They were just annoyed.

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Everybody else there was like, God, if I could just beat this guy up, I would fucking do

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it.

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If there was an element of anger, it is totally warranted because functionally what his disrupting

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of this press conference is doing is making it more difficult for the officials to communicate

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with the public when providing that information to the public is an essential piece of trying

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to make people feel safe, trying to navigate this really difficult period.

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And so, the effect of Badandi's action is actually impeding their ability to govern

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appropriately.

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Yeah.

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I mean, he's walking in there with the express purpose of exploiting a tragedy at the expense

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of everyone else there.

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And I think people there got it to some extent.

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Yeah.

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It's not hard to figure out once he starts being a real shithead.

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So anyway, he's a hero to Alex.

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Sure.

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He's proud of him back then.

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The greatest.

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And the next clip doesn't really have much to do with anything, but it's a bit sexist

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and confusing.

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Okay.

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And so, I decided to keep it.

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Those are two good things.

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Yeah.

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They've got people where there's a backpack on the ground.

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I mean, I've been at the airport before and walked off with my bags to get a coffee and

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people are like, hey, your bags.

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I'm like, Starbucks is 10 feet.

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I know.

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My crew's sitting right by the bag, lady.

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It's always a woman.

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Nothing against women, but they're the ones that are more congenial and tribal situations

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to try to comply and be nice people.

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The problem is you've got evil running the country.

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And repeatedly, I have had one time at Austin Burcham, I got up to go get some barbecue.

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I mean, I had some utensils for my barbecue and I was waiting to fly out and a woman again

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went, sir, sir, you don't leave your bag.

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And it was literally 15 feet to the paper towels and utensils.

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This woman is shaking in fear that there's terrorists everywhere when the government

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runs the terrorists publicly on record.

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And that's all out in the open now.

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Hey, man, what are you doing?

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What is, what?

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The problem is that somebody is warning you that you left your bag unattended.

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Like you might, it might be a thing where like your bag could get stolen.

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Yeah.

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Like it's not, it doesn't have to just be about a fear of terrorism.

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No, I was trying to get on a flight and I made it through security.

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I made it through everything.

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I got about four steps away from standing on the plane when I realized that I had forgotten

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my bags and I'd left them in there.

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So I ran back through the whole fucking place screaming, just like, ah, just made, you know

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how I am.

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Right.

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That doesn't, that doesn't really help in a situation like that.

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Ah, but in this one it did because everybody was so confused and shocked by it that they

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just let me grab my bag and then get right back on there.

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But I would have been much happier if somebody was like, Hey, you forgot your bag.

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Right.

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That would have been nice.

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I mean like obviously for very clear reasons, airports have a policy that unattended baggage

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is treated as suspicious.

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You've never been in an airport without them saying, don't look, don't fuck around with

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unintended bags.

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We can't as an airline or an airport risk not treating unattended bags as suspicious

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because the legal ramifications and the lawsuits that would come out of that are almost comical.

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And so someone saying like, Hey, uh, you're, you're leaving your bag here.

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Someone might come and take it from the airlines.

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The airport might take it because they can't leave it unattended.

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Absolutely.

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So this is so weird.

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He's actually describing courtesy.

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Yeah.

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100%.

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And he's mad about it and turning it into a sexist complaint.

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Yeah.

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Somehow he's mad because women are quote unquote more congenial and that's just his Stockholm

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syndrome stuff.

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I mean, that's just insane.

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Yeah.

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But also a shout out to the salt lick at the Osterbergs from airport.

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So cool that you could get barbecue at the airport and it's not bad.

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Pretty good.

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Yeah.

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I got it.

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The last time I was flying back from Austin and I went for the depo.

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Yeah.

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Uh, I'll probably, I'll probably be back before too long down to visit my parents.

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Get some more.

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I will get salt lick.

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No bra.

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There was no reason not to.

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I was thinking about ordering a bottle of the sauce.

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Oh, I didn't.

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I was going to say they don't deliver this far.

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No, but you can order it.

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They ship.

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They ship.

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You can get it.

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All right.

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But it only comes in like a gift pack.

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That was a problem for me.

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That's trouble.

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Yeah, Alex has another story about how him and his buddies are all oppressed.

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Can we've got to make this break into the media and have a serious talk about this?

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And remember what came out last year?

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We first broke it.

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Leaked us actually out of a psyops group.

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I mean, I'll just say it cause they're all being tracked.

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They know what they're not.

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I don't care.

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Uh, out of Fort hood where they said the evangelical Christians are criminals.

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You don't have to give money or go to one of their churches or be part of the tea party

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or you will be called before the man in court martial.

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Yeah.

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Get them.

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Court Marshall, regular people.

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And he said, we're going to stop that now.

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Man.

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I mean, imagine that this is like a Soviet takeover folks.

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This is the real deal ahead of them going operational and then all hell's going to break

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loose forever.

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Basically the end of our way of life, the end of prosperity, dead citizens, dead police,

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dead military, hell on earth.

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I mean, this is a nightmare situation where the globalists play us off against each other.

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So when Alex says psyops groups gave him this information, I'm guessing that means Steve

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Pachannik.

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Right.

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I take his sourcing that seriously, which is not at all.

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Yeah.

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Uh, so that story seems really extreme, but for what it's worth, I can actually find a

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number of stories about this on Fox, the Washington times, and even some more like even less credible

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right wing sources than they, they report on this alleged meeting at Fort hood where

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soldiers were told they can't donate to tea parties or evangelical Christians.

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The problem is that after these claims came up and internal investigation began at Fort

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hood and they found that this whole story was fake.

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Ah, that's no good.

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The outcome of the investigation wouldn't be known until October, 2013 though.

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And by that point, Alex and his weirdo friends had months of free time to run with this completely

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fake story, which was accepted as truth by the audience.

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And like, who cares?

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The truth has come out.

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We're here in February, 2014, but who cares?

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The fake version is still true on info wars.

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Got it.

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You know, it's, it's, it started a feeling once, uh, once the cement dried before the

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investigation came out, it was all over.

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Yep.

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Nothing.

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Nothing you can do.

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Anyway, Alex goes to some calls.

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He wants to take calls from military and police because he wants to know about these drills.

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These drills are all being run to demonize the Patriots.

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Right.

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Right.

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And he wants to know, uh, like, Hey man, you ever, you ever do one of these drills?

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And obviously the answer is supposed to be yes.

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Yeah, of course the answer is yes.

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It's not.

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Oh, well, let me ask you this.

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When you were in, uh, before he got out a year ago, were you ever part of these drills?

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Cause I've been to them that are public where they trained to fight guys that literally

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have beards and wear John Deere hats.

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Basically they trained to fight Hank Williams Jr.

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Were you ever part of that?

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Did you ever hear about any of those drills?

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I was never a part of those drills, but we did have a company come in from, um, they

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were doing a video for, uh, West Point and they actually asked some of us to go and work

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with this film crew and stuff.

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Cause we have, we have a large, um, national guard base about 10 minutes from my house

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where my unit used to be at.

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Um, and we had this little training town that was out there in the middle of the woods and

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we'd go out there and they'd make videos of us kicking out doors and all sorts of other

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stuff for training videos, but I was never part of an actual drill.

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Exactly.

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And West Point is now publicly training, but the main enemy is the tea party that's in

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Forbes associated press, you name it.

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But the AP reports it like it's a good thing.

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Thank God the Pentagon is going to smash people that don't want to turn their guns in and

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have the state run their kids.

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Go ahead.

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This is the way that Alex has to pivot because the answer is no.

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Yeah.

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And the thing that the guy is describing is a completely benign.

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Oh, and a very boring story on top of that.

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It's pretty boring.

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Yeah.

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It's certainly more boring than Alex is like, Oh my God, I went out to one of these.

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They were trying to kill Bo Cephas.

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Totally.

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Totally.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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They were training to take down Hank Williams Jr.

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Way better.

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Instead of just being like, no, we did some videos one time.

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Well, they were concerned.

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Uh, so they were doing this, this, this training exercise, right?

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And everything was fine.

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They were just going after this one bearded guy.

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Sure.

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But then all of his rowdy friends came over.

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Right.

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And then, Oh my God, all hell broke loose.

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You know, I trained to fight Hank Williams Jr. for a while.

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Is that right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Charity boxing match.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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We were going to do it.

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Did you get any like advertisements tattooed on you?

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No, but I had a specialist study as fighting style.

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I wanted to make sure that I was prepared for amazing left hook.

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Okay.

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It's crazy.

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You gotta, you gotta be, you gotta be careful.

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Absolutely.

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He has some information or I should say he has some claims of information.

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Okay.

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I talked to an active duty Navy seal.

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That's friends of the family.

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I'll leave it at that weeks after it happened, I've had family of people that died in the

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helicopter that was blown up on saying they know it was a set up to kill their family

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and they were killing the Navy silver sent in on a bin Laden body double.

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They even know the guy's name and now today they've come out and it turns out the Pentagon

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claim they had photos of it and video and all this stuff and then quote when they were

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ordered to reclassify it, it was quote all destroyed.

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It was fake.

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Oh man, that's nuts that Alex can definitively prove that the killing of bin Laden was fake

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and even has the name of the body double they use, but weirdly isn't actually able to produce

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that evidence and never says the body doubles name.

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It would be weird not to say the body doubles name.

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Sure.

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This is a part of one of Alex's big strategies that he uses to pretend that he has more information

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than he actually does.

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It's very exciting to think that Alex knows this body doubles name, but it's only exciting

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as long as he doesn't say the name.

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As long as that stays the status quo, it's entirely believable that Alex does have that

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information.

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You can't prove it or disprove it if Alex doesn't say anything concrete.

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It's just Schrodinger's bullshit.

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Actually, I do know who the body double was.

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Who's that?

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Tom Hussein.

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Oh.

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They do a thing now where the last one they assassinate, they just hang on to until the

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next one they need to assassinate.

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Well, I don't know what the timeline is, but when was Gaddafi killed?

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Would that have been more recent to this?

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Yeah, that would have been more recent.

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Shit.

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Uh-huh.

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I was trying to remember who starred in the movie Body Double.

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I was desperately trying to...

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My brain just couldn't pull Melanie Griffith.

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Is it Sandra Bullock?

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Nope.

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Melanie Griffith.

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Come on, now.

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Look, once Alex says the name that he's alleging, that allure that he has, the mystique of I

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know this name goes away, and ultimately, saying the name is going to lead to the claim

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being debunked, and that's going to be a little disappointing.

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No, and what's most important is saying that you know the name, but you can't say the name.

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Which is actually counter to all of Alex's notions about secret information.

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Sure.

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Like, if you know something, you have to say it.

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But I can't say this in order to protect this dead body double.

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It's all so stupid.

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It's such a charade.

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Look, I don't want to make Osama Bin Laden's family feel bad.

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That's why I can't say the name.

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You wouldn't want that.

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No, it'd be terrible.

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So Alex is talking about this, the faking of, the killing of Bin Laden, and this leads

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him into thinking about other things that he thinks are fake, and so Sandy Hook comes

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up.

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Oh, boy.

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And yes, we don't know exactly what happened with Sandy Hook, but we got a good idea.

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They bulldozed it.

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They covered it up.

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Real kids were killed there, but they did have confirmed actors putting out the official

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story, and Bloomberg got caught in internal memos that have been leaked, preparing the

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day before for the big push, and saying, prepare now for the news blitz.

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Look it up, folks.

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I mean, it is incredible, and they just count everybody's ignorance to not understand this

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is real.

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I mean, this is so horrible.

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That's pretty funny.

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Because in the first deposition that we covered, Mark asked Alex about this Bloomberg thing.

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Sure, of course.

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And Alex said, I don't know, but I could definitely find you the source on it.

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Of course he can.

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And in the second deposition, Mark's like, hey, you remember how you said you were going

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to find that source?

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He said he could find it.

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Can't find it.

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Oh.

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Doesn't seem to care.

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That's trouble.

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But yeah, I think you have an interesting presentation here, because Alex is playing

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that sort of mid-game here, where he's not overtly denying all of the death, which he

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would do later.

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He would jump whole hog into that.

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But at this point, he is still saying that the people who put out the story, and by that

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he means people like Robbie Parker, I don't know if he would be including Posner in that,

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but maybe, possibly, he is still accusing the people who are speaking on this, of being

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actors, which is kind of the problem.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, it's a strange hybrid of full-on denialism and playing it safe.

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Yeah.

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It's like not understanding that you're like, ah, see, I'm covering my ass, but with an

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empty outline of a leaf.

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That's not really covering your ass.

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You realize that, right?

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Right, because it's not respecting the implications of the things that you're saying.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You're still doing the thing.

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If you're saying that the parents of the killed children, who are the ones who are speaking

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out about this, are actors, then the implication of that is their kids didn't actually die.

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Totally.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Because otherwise, what are you saying?

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Right.

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It doesn't make sense.

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Again, this is a non-middle-ground area.

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You can't be like, listen, I know the Holocaust, but most of it was true, and only some of

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it wasn't true.

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No, you're still a Holocaust denier now.

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That's how it works.

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It's very strange to see this perspective from Alex, because I don't really understand

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why he would take this middle ground.

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It's very weird.

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So we have this next clip.

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It's just a caller saying something dumb.

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Let's talk to Raymond in Illinois, listening on WCKG in Chicago.

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You're military.

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Are you current, or did you just get out?

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What's your take on this?

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No, sir.

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I've been out for some time now.

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I have a son that's in, and my comment was they are gearing up.

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The Masons, I live in a small town, the Masons have been having meetings quite frequently.

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Wisconsin, all the major roadways are putting gates on the overpasses, barricades.

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Oh, I know this.

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Well, I know this, they are getting all the insiders, all the cities ready for collapse.

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Uh-oh, look out.

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The Masons are active.

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Are the Masons the ones who put all the gates up on overpasses?

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Probably not, but it's, well...

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I mean literal Masons.

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Does it involve Masonry?

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I mean, yeah.

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I was going to say, literal Masons probably had something to do with it.

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I just think it's funny to look at this and imagine, like in the present day, someone

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would be like, the Masons are active, they're all out there.

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Just the way that everything has spiraled from the sort of classical conspiracy tropes

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into what it is in the present day, like it's, in 2014 you might have a caller who's worried

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about what the Masons are up to.

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Yeah, you know, that was fun.

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That was more fun.

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The Masons are the ones putting styrofoam cups in the overpasses overhead to spell out

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secret evil messages.

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Like, go Tigers!

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That makes perfect sense to me.

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Yep, yep, yep.

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It doesn't get more evil than that.

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Adam Weishaupt was a Tigers fan.

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Exactly!

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That's how you know!

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Yep.

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That's the dumb prediction that Alex made that goes in the laundry list of bad predictions.

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Every week we get more local news reports just where it leaks out where the military

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is training with police to take on gun owners, veterans, and billing them as terrorists in

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the drills where they shoot, blow up schools, release bioweapons, because, quote, they're

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mad about the Second Amendment being repealed.

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And there are going to be a lot of people, I'll imagine it's going to be about 5% at

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first that refuse to turn their guns in openly.

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Most people just quietly won't do it, I'd say half, then they're going to start persecuting

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gun owners, as they're already doing, and then a civil war is going to break out.

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And that's what the globalists have already scripted and prepared.

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Like a PR rollout.

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And, I mean, no one should want to be part of this.

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This is horrible.

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But they've got to do this to cover up the economic collapse they've engineered so they

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don't get in trouble.

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This is a plan, folks, and we're just getting so close to it.

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That's so stupid.

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Like look at the conception Alex has here, and ask yourself if any of this has happened

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or even come close to happening.

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This show was recorded eight years ago, and none of this stuff that Alex is claiming is

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all part of the globalists' plans.

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They have a plan.

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None of it's come to pass.

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There's been no gun confiscation, there's been no need for patriots to resist turning

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in their guns, there's been no civil war incited over gun confiscation.

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Also, look at this shit that Alex is unraveling as the grand plan of the globalists.

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It's grounded in reality, to the point where a non-insane person could buy into this.

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They're really rich, bad people who've committed giant financial crimes and they don't want

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to get in trouble for them, so they're engaging in comically elaborate plots to cover their

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tracks.

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Right.

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This is dumb, if only because a civil war would almost immediately wipe out whatever

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financial gains these people made by way of their crimes, but you can see this as a detective

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style conspiracy.

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There's no supernatural elements, there's no devil working behind the scenes, there's

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no prophetic visions, there's no battle between good and evil where the goal is ascending

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to the stars.

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This is about using half-cooked ideas to defend a destructive political ideology that Alex

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wants to push.

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This is like a mason-caller that seems so foreign to Alex's present-day content where

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everything's about demons and how everyone who disagrees with him is a pedophile.

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It's bizarre.

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It's quick.

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It's quick.

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Yeah.

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This change.

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Yeah, but a lot of people's brains have just been fucking broken by this shit, man.

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I think we're at the point now where people are just busted up, you know?

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Any number of people who have previously had at least somewhat rational stances are now

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out and out long gone.

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I understand that a lot of people have been, maybe by degrees or maybe by leaps and bounds,

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gone into areas that are really irrational.

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I understand that.

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I think it's a little different for Alex.

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Yeah, that's true.

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That is true.

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I think, I don't know.

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I mean, on the other hand, you know, when your brain's already that broken, what happens

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whenever it breaks again?

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It just keeps, he's gone weirder.

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It hasn't fixed him like a, it would be great if the worst thing that's happened to human

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beings while we're alive would have been like a fucking frying pan to the forehead in a

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cartoon and he'd wake up and be like, holy shit, it's time to fix it.

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I can finally see, you know, like that kind of thing.

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El Kabong.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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It didn't happen.

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Nope.

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It just went further.

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It just got weirder.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, speaking of weirdos, David Icke joins us, one of the most controversial guests you

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can have on.

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Tired of the punch bowl.

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And we're always honored to have him.

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I've had a chance to hang out with him over the years, get to know him, just a really

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real guy.

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People ask, is David Icke for real?

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Yes, he's for real.

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Is he right about everything?

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I don't think any of us are right about everything.

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You'll be seeing through rose colored glasses, the distortion of our senses in the time space

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continuum.

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Sure.

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So much is happening.

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The Great Awakening is happening that he said 20 years ago he thought would begin around

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2014.

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Oh, man, what an amazing prediction David Icke totally made, which totally came true.

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Yep.

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Whatever.

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So weird.

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Also to see that the Great Awakening is happening in full force in 2014, considering that Alex

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is currently in 2022 yelling about how the Great Awakening is beginning in response to

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COVID restrictions.

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Right.

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It's almost like the idea of a Great Awakening happening is just a consistent element of

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people like Alex and David Icke's branding.

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And it's so vague of an idea that it can just be trotted out whenever you want to create

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the image that your side is secretly winning.

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It's really cool stuff and not at all the sign of shithead manipulators.

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I think there's a real, like, solid narrative arc that could be made out of just Alex's

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David Icke intros.

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Like throughout his career.

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Like there's a real, I think there's some pathos in there.

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I doubt it.

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Because we've got some moments where he's like, I hate the guy.

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And then moments where he's sorry that he's not like.

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And then later on.

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But I don't think they're just having him on when he didn't like him.

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Sure.

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That's true.

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Yeah.

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Couldn't do intros just.

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No.

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You'd have to make it out of just his like overall.

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Look, I do think that there's a real downward trajectory that you can see of Alex being

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like, I have to differentiate myself from this guy who's clearly insane to being like,

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fuck it.

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He's got a big audience.

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I'm going to warm up to him and try and keep my distance by being like, wow, is he right

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about everything?

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No, but he's right about some things.

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And then now finally like, I'm just going to steal wholesale most of his shit.

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100%.

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It's kind of pathetic.

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It is like a one of those XY graph memes where it's just slowly all the way down.

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Yeah.

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It's all brutal.

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Eh.

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What an asshole.

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Who cares?

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Eh, that's a good point.

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So here's a dumb story that Alex is reporting.

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Love it.

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They're all over the news, adding deadly chemicals to everything on purpose to bring damages.

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Their own documents are public by the White House science are.

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John P. Holder in his own book, Eco Science.

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DNA results from the Nephilim skulls, mainstream news.

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I'm sorry, what now?

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Weird Peruvian skulls and say it's a new form of humans.

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I mean, this is all just getting insane.

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And more and more is going to happen.

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More and more is going to be revealed.

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And people are going to get deeper into the matrix and lies and false reality at the same

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time as others become more awakened.

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So that isn't in John P. Holdren's book, Eco Science.

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There's no documents proving the fucking shit in the water to make people dumb.

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It would be a bad idea to put that in your book.

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Yeah.

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Alex is making that up because he knows his audience isn't going to read a textbook to

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check up on his claim.

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Yeah.

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I like the introduction of Nephilim skulls though.

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That's pretty exciting.

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So what's going on here is that UFO and conspiracy message boards have been circulating images

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of these skulls that were found in the Paracas region in Peru and just making up that DNA

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testing had been done on them and showed that they weren't human.

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Well, I mean the first one was recovered by Indiana Jones.

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It's true.

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It was crystal.

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A lot of folks just accepted the claims of the DNA testing and stuff at face value, like

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Alex is, because the skulls were elongated and slightly conical in nature.

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It made them look possibly alien.

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Right.

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In this world, the skulls had that appearance because they were from members of a community

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that practiced artificial cranial deformation.

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This is achieved by exerting force on a child's skull before it fully hardens, and there's

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a number of theories as to why people did this, ranging from ideas about beauty to the

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promotion of ingroup cohesion.

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Sure.

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Whatever the motivation, what's going on here is that Alex saw a meme that made a completely

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fake claim that DNA testing had been done to prove these skulls had extraterrestrial

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origins, and he did literally no work past that point before turning it around and repeating

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it to his audience as fact that things are going crazy.

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And not only that, he seems to be implying that the act of accepting that these skulls

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are alien Nephilim is somehow a sign of being awake, which is just pathetic.

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Hopefully David Icke sets him straight on some of this stuff.

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I like the idea that there are times whenever conspiracy and reality can just be so far

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apart.

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That's how far apart it could be.

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They could be aliens, they could be Nephilim from the Bible, or it could have been some

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people a while back who just thought it looked hot.

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Very simple explanation.

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Can I give you a quick correction?

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The Nephilim would still kind of be aliens because they're the offspring of demons and

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human women.

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Sure, fine.

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I'll accept that.

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Yeah, you have to-

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I'll accept it.

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I hate to be a nitpicker, but-

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I hate to be that guy.

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So when we were talking here a little bit about the trajectory of Alex's relationship

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with David Icke, I think when you're listening to this episode, it becomes painfully clear

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that like, alright, Alex isn't really talking about demons so much in these past episodes.

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But they're there.

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Well, a little bit, but also David Icke is full on future Alex.

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Oh shit.

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And the rabbit hole is so deep that if we're only looking at things like banking scams

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and engineered wars and engineered terrorist attacks, et cetera, which is very, very important

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to expose, but we're still walking around the edge of the rabbit hole, which is so deep.

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And we have to, I would suggest, open our minds to the fact that there are forces at

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work in the unseen, which Christians call demons, which Islamic believers call jinn,

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which other people call archons, other people call flyers in Central America, the shaman.

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There is an unseen force manipulating this.

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Oh man.

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It's not just really rich people who want to cover up their financial scams by taking

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away guns in order to prompt gun owners to start shooting at them and then cause a civil

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war and everyone to forget about the financial crimes.

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Right.

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Unseen demons, jinns, and archons.

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Right.

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See, this is just Alex in the future, his point, and Alex is, I want to play this next

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clip really quick before you respond because Alex isn't really fully like, yeah, fuck yeah,

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buddy.

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Yeah.

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But he also is making it okay for the audience to entertain these ideas.

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And David Icke joins us.

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He was getting to the key point there, and he's been talking about this 20 years, folks,

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saying they wanted to hack the brain, create a false neural system, take over.

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Now people say, well, he says it's entities in another dimension doing this.

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That sounds crazy.

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What does every culture say?

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Regardless of whether those entities are real or not, or that's some archetypal manifestation

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through people, I've been to Bohemian Grove.

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I've covered Skull and Bones.

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I know Elitist.

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I grew up in the richest county in Texas where all the rich people were basically devil worshipers.

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We had to leave the town because of it.

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Okay.

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I mean, it was unbelievable.

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The stuff they tried to induct me into, I've seen stuff by the time I was 14 that most

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people never even imagined.

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That's not why you had to leave that town.

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No.

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But yeah, you can kind of see this like, yeah, accept the narrative even if you don't believe

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in demons.

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Right, right, right.

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The idea is there, and maybe it's not demons.

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Maybe it's just people who are tricking themselves into thinking they're demons.

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However you got to get there, man, you get there.

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Right.

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That's what he's looking for.

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He's greasing the skids in order for people to get down into this while at the same time

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trying to pretend that like, hey, I'm not the one saying there's demons because then

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it looks really bad, but I'll wait a few years and then I'll do it.

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You know, I think it's so weird and funny and kind of strange that these types of people,

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one of their arguments is like, look, there have been things like this that have popped

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up in every human civilization.

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That means that humans must have contact with it somewhere in our memories or something

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along those lines.

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And it doesn't make sense to people to just be like, no, shitheads like Alex Jones and

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David Icke and those people have been around since the very beginning claiming that demons

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are the reason behind all of your fucking problems.

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There is a lot of that, yeah.

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These assholes have been there since the jump, man.

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Yeah, and even so, the ones in the present day are misrepresenting a lot of stuff.

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Yeah, totally.

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But they're bad sources of information, even about the shitheads from the past.

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They're from the past who are bad sources about information.

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Yeah, it's a hat on a hat, but both hats are dumb.

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It is like we went backwards in learning about things.

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So how much do you know about brainwave frequencies?

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I know there are three.

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There's up, down, and left.

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That's correct.

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Thank you.

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So human brainwave activity operates at a certain frequency band.

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If you can access that frequency band with information delivered electromagnetically

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and electrically, then you are putting thoughts and perceptions and beliefs, perceptions of

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reality into that system, and the person is having thoughts and feelings and coming to

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conclusions that they think are their own conclusions, but they're not.

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And anything that's got smart in front of it is part of that grid.

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Beware the smartphone.

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So this is really scary, because I think that David Icke thinks that the human brainwave

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frequencies are just like radio stations.

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Yeah, in style.

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The brain is on 106.1, and if the government just broadcasts something on that frequency,

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brain control.

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That'll happen.

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There are some problems with this idea, just starting from a functional perspective.

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Is David Icke saying that all human brains are on the same frequency, or is it different

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for each person?

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If it's different for each person, then I don't know if there's that many frequency

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bands available, quite frankly.

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I mean, you just get smaller and smaller numbers.

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But if we're all the same, then it would really be impossible to fine-tune mind control, and

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you'd really only be able to do population-level brainwashing with this, but then you'd be

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brainwashing some of the people who are in on your scam and your plans, so they'd probably

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need like a metallic, moldable hat of some sort, maybe aluminum.

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Man, anytime you're dealing with that number of people, you've got to plan for a failure

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or a backfire on some, you know.

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Sure, it works on 90% of people, but 10% go even crazier!

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It's like they live.

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Yeah, absolutely like they live.

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Now, the larger problem is that David is completely misunderstanding what brainwaves are.

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Your brain doesn't have a set frequency that it operates at, necessarily.

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That number changes quite a bit depending on what mental state you're in.

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For instance, your brain's working at about 0.5 to 4 hertz when you're asleep and in

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delta waves, whereas if you're in a state of high concentration, your brain might be

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in gamma waves at over 35 hertz.

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This is just really stupid.

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I don't even know what he's saying, and conceptually, it doesn't even...

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Neither does he.

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He doesn't care.

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He doesn't care about alpha, beta, gamma waves.

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He doesn't give a shit?

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No.

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Absolutely not.

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He just thinks that there's this number that if you just tune it to the right thing, you

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just bzzz.

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No, I mean...

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Put thoughts in your brain.

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David, I should have any sufficiently misunderstandable technology is the same as demons.

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He should just make it up.

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Make up his anti-Sagan quote.

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Or just say Archon.

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Or Feynman or whatever, whoever it was.

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So there's a little...

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No, it was not Feynman.

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It was a...

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God damn it.

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I'm so mad.

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I need to continue this.

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We have to.

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Until I remember the name of the guy who said...

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Carl Sagan wrote The Demon Haunted World.

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Right.

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Is that what you're talking about?

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No.

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The guy who said any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from mad...

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Clark!

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Arthur C. Clark.

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Thank you!

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Shakespeare.

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Thank you.

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Clark Shakespeare.

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Alright.

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So there's this really strange thing that David Icke and Alex get into, and it's really

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contrary to anything that we would know from the present day.

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And that is that Hollywood is maybe not as bad?

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You know a lot of famous people.

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I know a lot of famous people.

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Most of them do not have the courage to go public.

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I mean most big Hollywood stars, A-list, most big producers I know, 95% of them won't come

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on air.

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But a lot of them have come on air.

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And in Hollywood, it's not liberal or conservative.

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They're listening to you.

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They're listening to me.

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They're all awake.

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They hate the old shadowy producers, Sumner Redstone and others, that won't let them tell

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the truth.

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There's a revolution going on in Hollywood, and I see it in the new Lego movie and the

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new Nut Job movie, anti-establishment, how they want to program us.

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And that's not propaganda.

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So that was where my Mandela effect was.

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I thought that the Nut Job came out much more recently than 2014.

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I don't know why, but I had a dead set in my mind it was like 2019 or something.

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Yeah.

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It wasn't.

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Nope.

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2014.

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Wow.

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The Nut Job.

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Lego movie's old now, man.

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I was just thinking that, like, whoa, the Lego movie isn't government-run propaganda.

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Apparently.

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And it's been so long since I've thought that about a movie.

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Yeah.

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And it turns out it's the Lego movie.

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And it's proof that Hollywood...

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It's a revolution going on.

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It's very exciting.

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Has Guardians of the Galaxy come out yet?

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I don't know.

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I feel like it has in 2014.

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Let me look it up.

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We're on, like, seven million years of Marvel.

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Guardians of the Galaxy came out in 2005.

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You son of a bitch.

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Opened opposite to...

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I want the world to know he did not actually look it up.

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People are gonna hate that.

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Prop 2005.

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People are gonna hate that.

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They're gonna be like, you stop eating.

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See, I'm not sure what year that was.

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I wouldn't be surprised if it was fairly close to that.

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It has to be.

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But yeah, Alex is, he was not in Guardians of the Galaxy.

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That was a bit of a lie.

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But that would have probably been even further proof that Hollywood was waking up if they

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would cast Alex as a hero.

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That's what I was...

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Space man.

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That's what I was thinking.

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So yeah, apparently, Hollywood, pretty good.

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I'm saying we are on the edge of winning because this isn't fake.

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Almost everyone in Hollywood, I've now learned, is a listener of this show.

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And I'm talking about you as well.

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And I'm on a power trip over that.

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This is the main enemy brainwashing base.

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And we, by the grace of the Creator and human consciousness and everything, and our listeners,

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we've not infiltrated them.

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They are in the programming system.

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They know the truth better than us.

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They're absolutely freaking out.

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The military's waking up because they're decompartmentalized with our information.

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This is incredible.

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So what do you want to say about that?

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Because I want to be clear.

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Hollywood is on the verge of a huge awakening and a revolution against the old guys that

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control it.

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David I.

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I have really bad news for Alex about where he's going to be in a few years about Hollywood.

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Revolution did not go.

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Who does he think isn't listening to Info Wars?

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Who's leading the underground resistance against the rest of Hollywood?

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Sumner Redstone.

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Very specific pull on Alex's part.

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That was such a weird pull.

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Alright.

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Did Ted Nugent have a show on, what was Sumner Redstone?

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Is it Fox?

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Is he on Fox?

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I think it was Fox.

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I don't fucking know any of these.

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No.

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Studio Systems.

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Me neither.

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Adam McKay is still around.

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He probably was not.

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He was fighting Info Wars.

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I think that there's obviously something that is very clearly specific that Alex is

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talking about, but I just got no idea.

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Sumner Redstone was Viacom, so he was in charge of Viacom.

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Sure.

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So yeah, maybe Ted Nugent had a show.

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Who are the other stars that talk to Alex?

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Clint Eastwood.

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Peter Stormare.

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I mean there's musicians.

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Charlie Sheen.

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Sure.

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Sheen's there.

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Yeah.

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Martin Sheen listens too.

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No.

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Yeah.

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He said that Martin Sheen and Charlie Sheen.

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Belzer.

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Belzer for sure.

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We got Belzer.

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Belzer's in there.

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Absolutely.

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Billy Corgan.

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The highest of the high in music.

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Unfortunately Rowdy Roddy Piper did come on before he died.

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Yeah, yeah, but he was in They Live, so he gets a pass.

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Also Val Venis.

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The wrestler Val Venis.

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Val Venis?

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He did an interview with Dan Padondi one time.

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Really?

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Yep.

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Was it about how one time they had a storyline where Japanese people were gonna cut off his

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penis?

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That didn't come up, I don't think.

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It didn't come up?

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No.

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That's the only thing that I will ever be able to think about any time you say his name.

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We did do an episode about that.

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I did the one with Marty.

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Yes.

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So that has been covered, the Val Venis episode.

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Right.

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He was much better prepared to handle it than I was.

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I don't believe that Alex even thinks that Hollywood is waking up.

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No, absolutely not.

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I don't know what this is.

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No way.

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This is so dumb.

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No way could he possibly think this.

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So dumb.

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So Alex is kind of wishy-washy a little bit about the devil.

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It is unbelievable, and they talk about the Earth, how they want to save it all day.

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All they want to do is kill, steal, and destroy.

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And you say, oh, that's the Bible.

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What's the Bible?

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Whatever it is, it's happening.

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And I'm not saying you're gonna go to these churches and find the truth.

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That's where the devil lives, is these big churches.

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Even if the devil isn't physically real or some dimensional entity, it doesn't matter.

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It's an archetype in humans manifesting in every culture and every time.

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But now we can't have black pyramids they're sacrificing kids to every day, and then the

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culture gets so bad it collapses and people go back into the bushes and, you know, recongregate

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and create civilization again.

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That is unfortunate.

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Now they have all the weapons systems.

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Now there's all this technocracy and everything, and it could be like Atlantis any day.

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You know, the legend of Atlantis when the whole island blows up because they released

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some technology, sounds like a hydrogen bomb.

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I mean, we don't know what's really gone on this planet.

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I mean, I'll tell you that right now.

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There's a lot of stuff going on here that we really don't know.

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But the Illuminati claim they do know it, and I think they do know, folks.

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The Alexandria library, they've proven to not really burn.

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They got a bunch of it out and then burned it.

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And they know the real histories and they're using this and then they're using it to cheat

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so they can run everything.

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And it's horrible.

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Yeah, man.

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So the Illuminati.

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Right.

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That started in 1776 with Adam Weishaupt.

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Took the books from Alexandria?

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Which was pre-1776.

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It was wildly before 1776.

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Had to do with Caesar.

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It was a long way back.

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Tad far in the past.

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Yeah.

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I mean, the one thing Alex is right about is the myth of the Library of Alexandria burning

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and everything being lost.

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That isn't fully accurate.

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There was a fire, but it was after the point at which it was already kind of in, it had

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reached, it was on the downswing of relevance, let's say, in the sort of ancient world.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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It was no longer the repository for all knowledge.

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No, but that idea is really fun.

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It's great.

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Isn't it amazing to think of a repository for all human knowledge burning down?

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Yeah, it kind of gives a nice narrative reason why we don't know some things.

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Can't know anything in the past.

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Sure.

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That's fine.

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I don't think the globalists stole all that secret information.

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I doubt it.

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They now are able to control things because of it and do magic.

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I also don't believe that the Atlanteans set off an atomic bomb.

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No.

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No.

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No.

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Even as someone who has a passion for Atlantis like I do, I do not think it existed.

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No, no, no, no.

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Much less was it destroyed by a nuclear bomb.

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That said, I think that the way Alex is describing the devil here is a bit more responsible in

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terms of like, hey, maybe it's not a real physical being or a trans-dimensional being,

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but it's just my artful, metaphorical way to describe that people are bad.

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Sure.

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Okay.

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Fine.

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Right.

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You know, but then it gets a little boring to just say that he's a metaphor, man.

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Right.

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He's got to start spicing it up a little bit.

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Put some meat on that devil's bones.

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Now the devil's preparing to fight Hank Williams Jr.

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That's what we're doing.

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Yeah.

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Bocephus.

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So, we have another guest who shows up.

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David Icke takes his leave.

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Okay.

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This guest, I was shocked to see.

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It's absolutely horrible.

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Now, for the balance of the hour, we're joined here by Dr. Ed Group, globalhealingcenter.com.

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I'm not going to go through all his laurels and titles and the rest of it, but he has

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a lot of gravitas and he's not here to do a big infoarslife.com pitch data.

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That is how we fund our operation.

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We've got a 15% off super male vitality.

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I have to say, that usually isn't true when Alex says he's not here to do a big infomercial.

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Yeah.

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Usually is there to do a big infomercial.

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He did his job.

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In this case, he kind of wasn't.

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Okay.

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They did do a lot of talking about Alex's products, but it was clear that there was

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another point, which I found interesting.

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All right.

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Now, we've talked about Dr. Group a bunch in the past, and so we don't need to go into

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his entire dirty dossier here.

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No.

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But the reason that Alex isn't reading off all his credentials is because they're all

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fake.

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There is that problem.

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Yes.

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He does not have a lot of gravitas.

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Nope.

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He has a long resume full of fake credentials and degrees that he's purchased.

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And so, Alex probably doesn't want to dwell on that too much.

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Yeah.

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You don't want to list a number of... I mean, unless you were getting a cut from the fake

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schools, then you'd be like, he got his fake-

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Well, then Dr. Group would want you to.

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Yeah, exactly.

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He's got his-

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Or if Alex is getting a cut from the fake school.

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Exactly.

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He purchased this degree.

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He purchased that degree.

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So, it's not an infomercial, but Alex does talk a little bit about super male vitality,

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and I'll say I'm not sold on it.

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When you come out with a female one, it's the exact same thing as a gimmick, folks.

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It even works better for women.

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Why are you telling us this?

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... tweak it a little bit and have one for women, so they feel like it's like a pink

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package instead of a blue package.

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I mean, whatever.

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The point is, women, and we didn't put it out as an aphrodisiac, it just so happens

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that that's what these super herbs do also do that as well.

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And I'll be honest, people, I only take half the dose because I already have anger issues

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and-

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What?

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... and sometimes it smooths me out.

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Sometimes I get a little... I mean, I took some yesterday and I was bouncing off the

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walls, folks.

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Even though I had about five hours sleep, so Dr. Group joins us.

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Wow.

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That is not a ringing endorsement for whatever this pill is.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you're describing it like you're injecting me with bull semen, like, oh shit, man.

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I'm fucking ready to go!

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I can't take this because I have anger issues.

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That's not good!

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Also, I don't like the selling of this pill on like, you know what?

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The effects are unpredictable.

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Hey.

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Sometimes it mellows me out.

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Hey.

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Sometimes I freak out.

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Hey.

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It's entirely possible.

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I have 100% of placebo and I am making this all up for my own benefit, otherwise I would

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have to confront the fact that my products do nothing.

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Because it seems really strange that the substance would have like, completely contrary-

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When people sell you a pill or a drink or something and then you ask them what it does

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and then they're like, what do you think it does?

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And then they just agree with you, it doesn't do that.

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It might.

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It doesn't do any of it.

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It might.

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It doesn't do fuck all.

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But don't take it if you have anger issues.

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Here's the reason that Dr. Group is on.

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Now Dr. Group, I wanted to get you under a few weeks ago, you said I'm not ready, I want

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to do some more research and get something ready for people and talk about the top five

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health secrets.

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We're going to cover all five of them here, but you just take the Gucciardi, Anthony-

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Welcome back to Cracked.com.

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Five different parts to air in the next five weeks on the nightly news where you go in

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depth.

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But let's get into the top five health secrets.

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Knowing what I know about Dr. Group in the present day, I would expect that one of these

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would be drink your piss.

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It would have to be.

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Because he's a piss doctor.

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He's a piss doctor now.

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Yes.

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He's there.

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He is big into urine therapy.

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Top five.

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You'd think that it might crack the top five.

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It would have to, it's his main job now.

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Right.

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Spoiler alert.

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Uh oh.

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No piss.

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Oh.

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So I want to see, maybe-

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There's a different time back then, you couldn't just be a piss doctor.

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Maybe you should try and guess what they are.

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Oh shit.

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Maybe, but that's-

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I mean-

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I can guess five of them.

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I mean the problem is one of them should be exercise.

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It's not.

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Of course not.

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Of course not.

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No.

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The other one should be eating healthy.

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Uh, spoiler alert, that's probably one.

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Oh okay.

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Uh, then the other three are probably fake bullshit.

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Well it's not that, it's just they're trite as fuck.

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Oh of course.

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My health secret number one is drink clean water.

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I mean we've talked about, you talk about, everybody knows that the water's contaminated

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everywhere with fluoride, arsenic, chlorine.

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I mean the list goes on, all the medications in the water right now, the radiation in the

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water from Fukushima.

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So-

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Look, your definition of clean water is dumb, but the idea of you should drink clean water

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is-

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Right.

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Obviously the most banal-

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Yeah.

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Don't drink poison.

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Zero poisons.

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Uh huh.

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That seems easy.

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His advice is to drink distilled water with apple cider vinegar poured in it.

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Well no, but clean water's fine.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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I do also like the-

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Tap water's fine.

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He's supposed to be a doctor, and it took him weeks of research to come up with this

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list where the number one thing is-

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Oh my god.

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Drink water.

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Okay.

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Well that wasn't he knocked out in a day, it was the rest of them that were killing

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him.

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I'm not sure.

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Here's the second one.

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Okay.

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The doctor group continuing here, so drink clean water, very extreme, breathe clean air,

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that's number two.

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All right.

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Health secret number two.

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Okay.

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On my birthday today you gave me an air purifier for your-

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Happy birthday!

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You're so evil.

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So actually I have to correct myself, his birthday comes up twice.

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Yes.

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That's one time.

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Right.

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And then the other time David Icke wishes him a happy birthday.

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Of course.

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Yeah.

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Well it's just polite.

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Yeah.

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And Alex actually seemed a little put off by it.

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Well he's turning 40.

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Yeah.

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You know.

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But David Icke saved it.

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He's like, I'm 60 something, you're a little boy.

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You're a young spring chicken, you.

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Yeah.

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Okay, so the first two he knocked out in a day-

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Clean water, clean air.

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That's, I mean, for somebody who is directly working with the man, maybe more vehemently

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trying to destroy our water and air.

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Oh, hey, yeah, let's talk regulations, buddy.

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Right?

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Protect-

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Hey, listen, drink clean water.

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Obviously I'm working together with Alex to make sure it goes away.

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We will destroy the EPA.

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Breathe clean air.

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Obviously I'm working with Alex to make sure that there are no regulations to clean your

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air.

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Yeah, you need to drink clean water and breathe clean air, but we have a political set that

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will like, a policy set that want to make it intensely expensive for you to be able

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to access clean water or clean air.

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It does seem like his health secrets are like, just leave the United States completely.

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You're not going to get this shit here.

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And by the way, maybe nowhere because air doesn't respect governmental boundaries.

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So we take a little breaky in the list of the top five health things because Alex wants

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to know about like, hey, Dr. Group, Ed, how'd you wake up?

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What was your waking up story?

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I bought it.

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I bought Awakening.

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This is such bullshit.

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When did you wake up?

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I actually woke up to it in a weird way because I had studied pharmaceuticals and everything

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and I was kind of brainwashed into calling everybody else a quack until I met somebody.

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Originally I wanted to be a medical doctor and be a heart surgeon.

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That was my dream.

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So you're not?

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And that's what I was studying and I was brainwashed.

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I met a guy that was treating cancer naturally and we kind of got into a little argument.

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You know, I was brainwashed to think that natural medicine was all quackery and stuff

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like that.

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And he looked at me, he said, he knew I had a background in chemistry and biochemistry.

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He said, I'm not going to argue with you, pick any prescription drug you want and tell

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me how that does any good on the body.

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I said, all right, that's not a problem at all.

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I mean, we wouldn't have prescription drugs if they weren't good for us.

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So I went to the library, brought out all the biochemical books, chemical books, took

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a couple of prescription medications, broke them down chemistry wise, looked at how they

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work on the body.

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And in about two hours, that was my wake up call.

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That's when just like everything opened up.

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I saw it.

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I had like a vision and I saw the damage that was being done worldwide with pharmaceuticals

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that they're not designed to do anything but cover up a symptom.

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None of that's true or real.

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Nope.

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Doctor Group may or may not have finished getting an undergraduate degree from Southern

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Louisiana University, which doesn't even have a pre-med track for students to study.

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So it seems unlikely he really was on his way to becoming a heart surgeon or that he

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had any formal training in pharmacology.

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After this, he went to Texas Chiropractic College where he got a degree as a chiropractor.

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The rest of his degrees are fake degrees that he's paid for, generally ones that are available

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correspondents.

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So it's just basically, hey, I'll give you a degree.

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I will send you a check.

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Doctor Group doesn't know shit and the stuff that he's saying is really dangerous.

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There's so many prescription medications that are critically important for people dealing

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with a wide range of conditions.

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Just because big pharma is so detestable and because there are problems with doctors over

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prescribing some things, that's not a cause to pretend that literally no medication does

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anything.

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Plus, this is a guy who wants you to drink piss.

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In his mind, drinking piss has more medicinal benefit than any prescription medication ever

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produced.

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That's Alex's expert.

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That's how you do it.

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That's how you do it right there.

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I always try to resist the urge to make fun of how somebody talks, because there's some

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regional dialect shit or maligned and what have you.

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But there's a part of Doctor Group that doesn't really sound like a Southern person from Louisiana

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or anything.

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No, no, no, no.

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He sounds like a surfer idiot.

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Yeah.

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That's what he sounds like.

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Yeah, yeah, totally.

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And then you realize that he is a piss doctor who doesn't believe in medications.

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So he is a surfer idiot.

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It's just outrageous.

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You know what's crazy?

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This is that-

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It took him two hours to figure out that medications aren't real.

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Don't even stare at me with that.

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It is fun how rehearsed his origin speeches.

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This happened to me when I was doing the hearing aid thing, the dude Bill Austin, I think his

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name is?

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The dude who-

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Stone Cold Bill Austin?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Who owned and created Starkey or whatever.

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He was doing this whole big ass corporate speech about this origin story.

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And you can hear it in that tone of like, oh, this is all bullshit.

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You're fucking...

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Because it can't be like, I made this company because I wanted to make a shit ton of money,

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and Alex, you are helping me make money.

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It has to be like, I saw a problem with the market that only my ingenuity could solve.

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I recognized that I really didn't have the chops to be a real doctor, and so I took the

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road that I did, and I figured out that there's a gigantic market in supplements.

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Totally.

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Completely unregulated.

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100%.

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I get to call myself a doctor because I am a chiropractor, and hey, fun.

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Do you know how long it takes to become a medical doctor, and how much work it is?

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Yeah, you probably wouldn't pass if you tried to write a paper on how medications don't

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do anything.

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Totally.

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Probably would fail.

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Yeah, and you'd be really in trouble if you started describing this product that you wanted

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that maybe had an effect where you got anger issues, maybe had an issue where you were

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fucking rock hard all the goddamn time.

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Well, but then also, I think you'd have to go to a college for your undergraduate that

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had a pre-med thing.

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You'd also need to do that.

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Yeah.

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And I just, I had sort of forgotten the experience of listening to Dr. Group.

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To have him pop up again was upsetting.

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So anyway, Alex wants to know about his dad, because as you recall, Dr. Group, his hero's

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backstory not only has to do with this.

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That's right!

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Oh, God, I forgot.

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His dad, Dr. Group, his life's work is undoing the evils of his dad, because his dad invented

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Saran Wrap.

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I always forget that.

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Yeah.

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He is on a one-man crusade to undo the evils of his father.

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Right.

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Because he was in plastics and invented Saran Wrap, which has been so toxic.

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Just destroyed the world.

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And so he talks about that a little bit here.

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Yeah, I can talk about my dad on air, sure.

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Tell people briefly about him.

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Well, my dad was a chemist.

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He was one of the top chemists for Exxon, actually, and he did his dissertation, or

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his first PhD.

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Yeah, we looked him up.

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It's pretty amazing.

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Yeah, I mean, so.

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Is it amazing, or is it evil?

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He was a co-inventor of Saran Wrap, and he was like the leading guy and the leading chemist

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on plastics.

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I mean, he was the one that was going around teaching and lecturing about how plasticizers,

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epoxy resins, anything that had to do with plastics.

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Real quick, the person who invented Saran Wrap in the real world worked for Dow Chemical.

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Right.

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So not Exxon.

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And it wasn't Dr. Group's dad.

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Yeah.

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That would be an issue for normal ships.

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He actually worked for the government.

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I don't know what he was doing when the Reagan administration, I know he was involved with

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the drug war, putting something in the chemicals they were using to make cocaine with.

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What?

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And recently, I know when he died, it was a very fast death.

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And I was always wondering, because I remember a group of people that, like, all these guys

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showed up at my mom's house with these documents, like, forcing her to sign this stuff.

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You were going to miss your dad?

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He was dead within, like, he had throat cancer and spinal cancer, and he was dead within

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two weeks.

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And I was like, how does that happen, you know?

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And at that point in time, they just offered her a bunch of money.

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My mom wasn't a bunch of money.

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I think it was like $120,000 or something like that.

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She signed up off all these documents.

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All of his records were sealed.

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In other words, through Exxon, nobody could get access to him.

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I found out only about six months ago that he was about to go public right before he

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died with reversing all of his original research, because this whole time I'm thinking, oh,

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my gosh.

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He was going to do everything?

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He was going to do all the plastics, and now I'm trying to clean up all this stuff.

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It's really weird how that works, but I just found out that he was about to publish a bunch

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of reports on the damaging effects of plastics.

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Just found that out.

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Yeah, just found that out.

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Just found that out.

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So he does theorize that they offed him.

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The big saran wrap offed him.

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Well, I mean, obviously, big saran wrap offed his dad.

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They killed him, so he couldn't go public.

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But somehow, Dr. Group found these documents that he must have prepared.

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Well, it was in the attic, you know.

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Right.

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No, but there had to, Dr. Group should be able to provide this research.

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Oh, boy.

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If he's found the evidence of it or whatever.

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I assume if you were about to go public with it, you've probably got it somewhere in a

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readable format.

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Well, unfortunately, the people who killed him made his mom sign papers and then put

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all of that under wraps.

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Oh, no.

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Saran wraps.

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Brutal.

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Don't.

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I'm not going to reward that.

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So, this is fun, but it's so dumb.

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He's got this stupid doctor on here who's got this fun, heroic backstory and now adding

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the wrinkle that his dad was about to go public and maybe he was murdered is so good.

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I know, but here's the problem I have with this.

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I find this so much less believable than fucking Captain Mark Richards' backstory with his

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dad where his dad met fucking Churchill and shit.

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This is such bullshit.

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I find them to be a bad equivalent.

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Yeah, but I'm not going to say that.

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Except for Mark Richards' one involves aliens.

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Yeah.

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Well, this one might as well.

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It could.

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He's deeply involved in the drug war, putting something in cocaine.

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Yeah, he's contaminating fake cocaine that the government is making.

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Yeah, he might as well be from the aliens.

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I wonder also if the research that he found that his dad was about to put out was everyone

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needs to drink their own piss.

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That was the information he found that his dad was going to go public with.

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All right, so now we get back to the health secrets.

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Health secret number three.

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Oh, that's right.

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That is health secret number three, which is eat clean food.

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We know the food is contaminated.

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That's another eugenics system.

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So we got drink clean water, breathe clean air, eat clean food.

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Okay, so the first three he knocked out in a day.

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All right.

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What's the ones that took another week or two?

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I don't know if four did.

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I'm moving right along to number four, reduce your stress levels, but this is one I can

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follow.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Top four knocked out in a day.

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All right.

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The fifth one must have been impossible to come up with.

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Well, I don't know.

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I think the fifth one is so vague as to be meaningless.

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Okay, we hit reduce your stress levels.

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What about secret number five?

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Cleanse your body and environment.

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This is the big one.

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Cleanse your body.

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That's the same thing as the first four.

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No, because this is like take a shower.

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Okay, fine.

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Fine.

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Fine.

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Okay.

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And I think it's like cleansing your body also is like take my detoxing supplements

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and drink piss.

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Of course.

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Yeah.

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That's not a compelling top five.

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No.

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It's a good top five, relatively speaking, for where this information is coming from.

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These are 100% followable steps.

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Except for the fact that like, okay, this is all trite advice.

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Reduce your stress levels, eat good food, drink clean water, breathe air.

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Makes sense.

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All of this is fine, but like obviously the eat clean food is like all kinds of rampant

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anti-GMO stuff.

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Totally.

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Yeah.

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You're not allowed to eat corn and soy based products.

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Yeah, no, bakes within all of these very trite observations are like, and if you eat processed

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wheat, you will be killed by aliens.

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The drink clean water is great.

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That's a great suggestion, but he wants you to drink distilled water with apple cider

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vinegar in it.

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Right.

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Right.

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Because the tap water will make you dumb.

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You know, I mean, if you have been drinking distilled water with apple cider vinegar in

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it for a long time, piss is not that different.

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You might be onto something.

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I think you could just, you could make the lateral move to piss.

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No problem.

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So, you know, you got to drink distilled water with apple cider vinegar, but the key is to

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make it like body temperature.

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You know what?

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You know what I found out?

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I was, uh, I was looking at the toilet the other day and I was drinking a nice tall glass

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of distilled water with the apple cider vinegar in it and I thought I could pour one of these

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into the other and no one would know.

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Yeah.

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I don't want to gross anybody out like in the, as we close this episode because we're

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done with the clips, but there is a, there was a video of Dr. Group getting interviewed

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about his urine therapy stuff and he has a mug that like anybody else, I would think

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it was coffee, but because he's talking about drinking, he's sitting there getting interviewed.

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It's like, no, no, I, I, I genuinely want somebody to be like,

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Yeah.

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Today we have Dr. Group we're interviewing and then cut to that meme video of the baby

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uh, ape peeing into his own mouth and being like, yep, you nailed it, buddy.

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We might be making too much of a meal out of the fact that Dr. Group became a pee doctor.

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Yeah, I think the problem is he's, uh, fuck him and it's been a while since we've talked

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about him in real depth.

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Right.

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And I think that we've already covered so much of the ground that's like really more

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substantial about his story in past episodes, so it would feel really redundant to go over

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it and one thing we haven't really talked about when he's been on because it wasn't

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the case.

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It wasn't the case.

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Yeah.

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Is that he likes a pee.

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Yeah, totally.

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Um, so anyway.

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So we got Dr. Group, drink your own pee.

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Right.

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We got the health ranger, drink, uh, Ebola, uh, both of these people drink clean water

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people.

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Uh-huh.

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And just fucking top of their game experts, reliable.

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Lot of gravitas.

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So much.

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Lot of gravitas.

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So we come to the end of this 40th birthday episode for Alex and oh man, what a way to

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celebrate.

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Dr. Group coming in, David Icke.

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That's the big 4-0, you gotta celebrate it in style.

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Talking about alien skulls and the Nephilim, fake stories about Fort Hood.

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You know, it's fun.

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What a load of shit.

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For your 40th birthday, we are going to recreate this exact show word for word.

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I'm going to give you a script.

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We're going to hire people to, you know, we'll get Druffki to play Dr. Group.

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That makes sense to me.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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Um, let's not do this.

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Let's not do that.

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Let's, you don't want to do a staged reading of an Infowars episode.

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I'm getting overwhelmed about the possibility of being 40 and talking about Alex Jones still.

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Sorry.

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Which is possibly my future, but, uh, anyway, happy birthday Laurel.

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Happy birthday.

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I hope you had a good one, um, or have a good one since this is coming out and your birthday

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is next week.

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Yeah, we'll get, we'll be back, but we'll talk about what Alex Jones gets up to when

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he gets back to the studio.

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But for now, Jordan, we have a website.

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Do we have a website?

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep.

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We're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledge underscore fight.

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Now go to bed, Jordan.

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Yep.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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And now here comes the sex robot.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.