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Hey everybody welcome back knowledge right? I'm damn

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I'm sure a couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little oop talk about Celine's altar and also

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Thrown off I know these during I know I saw it. I saw it. It was all my fault. Yeah

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I was there in the beginning. I was like this is a one-of-a-kind

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song it's

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Yeah, that's that's gonna be a remix throughout the show I imagined and as you recall I love a chew

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But don't don't do it again don't find that magic one more time

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That's not happening always go back to that well

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Well, Dan. I have a quick question sure

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What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today is an email that I got

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from the

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Wwef gifts not the wrestling the world wildlife right right it turns out listener

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Saws, maybe sues sues saws so Z okay

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Suzy in honor of the the altar of Celine

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And inspired by the elephant that was adopted. Yes. Yes. Celine's child elephant

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has gotten

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an adopted quokka

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I'm liking this. Yes more birthdays now we do

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Animals that we have somehow inexplicably adopted

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Into the cult of Celine so saws sent a message. I feel like the elephant needed a sibling. It's pronounced quokka by the way

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That's okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. That's so sweet. That's so cool

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I really appreciate it and Celine is happy to have an expanding family. Yeah, absolutely

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I think that's uh, that's just exciting and really cool. Yeah, it's really cool. What's your bright spot?

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My bright spot is Vince Staples has a new album out there. Yeah

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Spectacular that's what I've heard really really good

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He's on a streak of like four straight albums that have been

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Spectacular like you can go back to Big Fish Theory and that's still fucking great

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So it's uh, it's really really good. Nice. Really good

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I like to check it out because this is the at least second time someone has recommended it. Okay good recently

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So, you know, that's kind of where it's gonna be like, alright fine. Hey, I apparently need to be conversant in this

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You need a Jordan and a plus one at yes, you can't just have a me

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Yeah, I got you

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So Jordan today we have an episode to go over and I'm gonna give a little bit of a warning up top

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I guess I already told you this recording just because you need to emotionally prepare

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This is going to be an episode that is about a video that Nick Fuentes posted on

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Alex's website band video. Yes

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I totally understand that there are some people who hate the sound of his voice and can't handle it and I fully respect

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That if you are that sort of prison, I promise we're not gonna become a Nick Fuentes podcast. Nope

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But if you would like to skip this we will be doing an episode on Wednesday

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Yeah of normal content, but I felt like there was something here that merited talking about

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Okay

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And so I wanted to to play this and have a conversation about it and I apologize in advance

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Hey, if you don't want to listen to Nick Fuentes voice, you are not alone. No, we are doing this professionally

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So before we get to that a bit of a pretty unpleasant business

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Let's take a little moment to say thank you to some new wongs. That's a great idea

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So first Jordan's laugh is wholesome and I have a lazy eye too, but I'm a hot chick. Thank you so much

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You're now policy work

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much. I appreciate that. I appreciate that one. That was good next one for Colin never will thank you so much

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You're now policy walk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much next Harry from Virginia

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Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks Harry from Virginia

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Thank you and a happy anniversary to Uzi and Nathan rhymes with Satan and also a big what's up to big a and Eugene

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You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy. Thank you very much to all of that

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Thanks, and finally this this one was I wasn't sure

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This is another person who thought I couldn't pronounce their name

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And so I'll spell out the first name. Okay, VA y la okay, Vela

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I I mean Vela Vela I could go I can't be Vela because it's too obvious

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Well, if it's Vela and she says you can't pronounce her his purse their name then Vela

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Yeah

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Viola you're now policy. I'm a policy wonk. Oh

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Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. So Jordan today this episode

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I was a little bit uninspired by some of the stuff that was going on on Alex's

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World and so she was poking around the website and on Nick Fuentes his page

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he had posted a new video and the title of this video is

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Nick Fuentes on why we must preserve America's majority white demographics

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well is

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Extreme that title is racist

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So if your titles racist, I imagine the thesis is far worse. It's a shocking blunt

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a

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Racist clickbait some might say some might say and I found this to be bizarre

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I think that one of the things that I find the most interesting

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When I look at info war stuff and one of the things that keeps me a little bit engaged is when things change

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I've always been kind of interested in how things can change because on some level they shouldn't

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It yours shouldn't change. Sure. It should never fighting the devil say and it's been a decades-long

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Conspiracy among all these people that Alex understands fully right things shouldn't change that much. No, it's it's all part of the plan

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So when we jump from Trump is a con man who's mobbed up and all this, too

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He's the greatest person in the world. He's gonna save the country, right?

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That's interesting to me that that sort of shift always is something that that sticks out and I

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Kind of feel like we might be

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Kind of in the middle of a change of the next the next big

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I'm a little bit worried because of a title for a video like that Wow

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I mean because there's just no way to

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Interpret it as an anything other than white people should be in charge because they're better

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They're better in charge than other non white people that might be part of what his argument

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The only argument you can make which is already silly and racist

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So we we're gonna go over this 10-minute video that Nick posted and it's a it's a clip out of his speech

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That he gave at his political action committee or conference or whatever

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And I believe the title of it or at least something that's on the the the logo is America

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Uncancelled well part of the reason is because you know

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That's sort of the theme of CPAC sure and it's sort of throwing it in their face that he's not allowed. It's

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Sure canceled everywhere. Right, right

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all right, and I think that that framing is also going to be a bit of an issue for Alex, but

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Hope boy, here we go. Oh boy. All right. Let's go to the white nationalist happy hour as everybody is getting ready to sit down

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Now they also say that I'm a white nationalist. Have you heard that one? That's a tough one. I stridently denied that one

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That one's been tough because they call you white nationalist they can ban you from everything

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That's right

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Look at you. We have a lot of them. We have a lot of them. We have another one over there. We've got one over there. That's right. I think I saw one over there. That's right. Thank you for being here.

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Run

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You can see kind of knows how to work a racist room a little bit

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Yeah, that was a little bit of a

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moment, but

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One of the things that I want to make clear is that like I could have probably found this entire speech and we could have gone

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Over it sure, but I don't think that that's really why I'm talking about this. Okay, I'm talking about this because it's on Alex's site

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Right, we you know, like we aren't a strictly info wars

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Podcast show like we've talked about project Camelot Jeff Baker

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There's other things Nick Fuentes in and of himself is not somebody that I necessarily want to fully

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Devote too much time to yeah. However, he has entered Alex's fear in a way that

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It becomes very relevant true to what we're talking about

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Yeah, and so there's probably far more horrible things throughout this entire speech

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Yeah, but this is what is posted and tacitly approved right by Alex Jones and info wars, right?

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It provides a context for Alex that cannot also, you know

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Like Alex can know cannot go anywhere cannot go on Joe Rogan and be like, I don't know why they call me a white nationalist

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This is why this is on your site in

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Incontrovertible you are a white nationalist it

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Yeah, it's it's well, maybe not because Nick has an interesting definition. Okay, here we go

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The reason they call me a white nationalist is quite simple because I am against the transformation of America's

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Demographics, that's the key word is demographics. I want a white nation

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Well, they say it's somebody that believes in a white ethnic state that it's all white people in America

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And no non-white people which is nothing that I have ever supported. I've never said anything like that

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You know, we're just because that's not really how the world works. You know, we have a largely multiracial country

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These trends are virtually unstoppable

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And so as a practical matter we as a nation are gonna have to figure out how to navigate the turbulent waters ahead

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Living in a very big and diverse empire. I wish it wasn't that way, but that's the way that it is

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So the first important point I want to note here is that Nick is very clearly saying that he wishes the United States wasn't a

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Diverse country, but he doesn't advocate for a whites only country because it's an impractical goal exactly

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It's a logistics issue not an ideological one. Listen, you can't shoot for the stars every time man

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You know if it weren't an impractical thing to pursue it stands to reason that based on his preferences

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Nick would want to eliminate that diversity that he doesn't seem to enjoy in our society

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The other important thing to note here is that Nick is creating a false definition of white nationalism in order to pretend that the label

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Doesn't fit him one doesn't need to advocate for a country with no non-white people in it to advocate for white nationalism

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There are some among Nick's crowd who probably do wish to see a whites only country

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But the definition of white nationalism is a bit broader than that

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one of the trademark beliefs is that defines a person's belief as being white nationalist is the belief that white people need to retain an

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Absolute grip on power in this country particularly by retaining a firm majority in terms of population

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Nick's created a false version of the definition in order to avoid the baggage that's associated with it and pretend that everyone's calling him

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Names that don't apply but this is really just an elementary rhetorical trick. Yeah, it's it's nonsense

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Yeah

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well

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I mean the thing that is undercutting everything he's saying is the idea that we need to stop these trends and then saying they're

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virtually unstoppable

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Which okay, so if the birth rate and such are virtually unstoppable

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How do you expect to change the trends and it would obviously be getting rid of people by deportation or whatever?

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You know obviously violence for them is on the table, but you know, it's inherently violent exactly

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It's inherently violent as a as something to advocate for because like what if you know people don't want to leave

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Oh, well, I mean, this is a majority white country. I don't understand why they wouldn't want to leave Dan

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I hate these people. Yep. Yep. So Nick gets into a little bit of a history lesson. That is not fully cooked

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We as a nation are gonna have to figure out how to navigate the turbulent waters ahead living in a very big and diverse empire

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I wish it wasn't that way, but that's the way that it is

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So I've never advocated for anything like cleansing or genocide or things like that

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But yet they call me that they call me that because I'm opposed to the transformation of the country demographically and if you don't know

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America is going to be a majority

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minority country within our lifetimes

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probably within 20 to 25 years

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And what that means is that the white population will be less than 50% of the population

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Which is pretty incredible when you think about it and not incredible in a good way

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And what the way that this is such a traumatic massive transformation in such a short period of time

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It was just recently I think as a 1970s when the demographics of America was

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90% white and 10% non-white and that's how it was since the beginning not of the country but of the colonies

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it's been roughly like that since the 17th century since the

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1600s and in the order of just under half of a century half of the population is being replaced

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By non-white immigrants and their children Wow

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So in fairness the US population was 205 million in 1970 as opposed to over 320 million

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Yeah, a little bit different also, you know based on US census data. It feels like it's exaggerating a little bit

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You know if you go back to 1970 the census shows that the country was

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87.5% white compared to in 2010 that sense is seventy two point four percent white

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Okay

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Additionally, I don't think it's super helpful to go back to some of that like old census data from like let's say

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I don't know prior to 1900 if he's saying it goes back to the colony days, you know

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The terminology and classification that was used to describe race is very different

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Then yeah, then it is today. Like for instance if you go back through some of the ways people are cataloged are slurs

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It's weird it's outrageous it's weird

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Also, Nick should be a little more careful because if you go back too far

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You might find numbers that constitute a problem for the argument

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For example, if you look at the 1790 census slaves made up 43 percent of the population of South Carolina

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South Carolina and almost 40 percent of the population of Virginia. Yeah, I was gonna say so like I don't know what he's

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I don't know what he's talking about. I I mean, I mean I do but yeah. Yeah

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I I suppose the very simple argument against that of course is

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You know the country that we the land was here before even the 17th century boy. That's interesting

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It was there was there before that and there were people quite a drastic demographic. There were people who were against that demographic shift

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I understand completely so

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Yeah, maybe he should shut the fuck up. Yeah, probably

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Yeah

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so he's concerned about this changing of population because

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The United States really only is the way it is for a particular reason. This isn't good

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Half of the population is being replaced by non-white immigrants and their children

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Now people hear that and they say well you have a problem with non-white people or something like that

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And I say well, you know not if they're over there

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That's a joke. Hey, that's a joke. No, they're here and we love them. No the problem

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The problem is this the problem is not them. The problem is that just like men and women are not interchangeable

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People from Europe and people from Latin America or Africa or China are not

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Interchangeable the way that the country is right now is a consequence of the kind of people that have lived here for centuries

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This country as we know it or at least as we knew it years ago was an expression of European people

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it was influenced by European civilization and it was a certain way because of how

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European people act it was a certain way because of how European people act

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Oh

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The the ability to understand American history is just lost just lost you know like

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No, no, just no just zero. No just zero

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No, do you know why you can get from one side of the country to the other Chinese people?

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That's part of the game. Like it's everywhere. Everybody is everywhere the point of the country

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is that everybody's from everywhere right and that is a big part of the the country's history and the contributions that have been made by

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People who have roots in other parts of the world have made America what it is

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Oh, there's so much of the frat the fabric of what we what we consider important and and culturally relevant

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that is not from

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I don't know even what

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Strict definition Nick will try to use exactly. Well, I mean go back to that go back to the fucking colonies

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Do you think that they thought that Irish people and Italian people acted the same European way of fucking course?

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Not probably probably not and I I think that that is a difficulty for this argument the the relative definition over time

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Yeah, at the time even just the the United States has existed. Yeah

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um, yeah, I I just I don't I don't like this because

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You know, he's saying that people aren't interchangeable because based on your roots where you come from you act different

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Right, right. Yes, your culture is not the same great. Sure great

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You know what? I really do hate that I can get Ethiopian food if I want it

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It's awful that I can't I don't have to fly to Ethiopia. Yeah

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So what the problem is like, you know for Nick that cultures don't assimilate that's the problem

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Which I don't I don't know what he means. Yeah

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People are very complicated. Okay, they're more complicated than other animals are more complicated than plants

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They're more complicated than technology

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And so there's very subtle differences subtle but significant differences between the groups

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you might think that somebody can come to this country and because they listen to

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Kanye West and they watch Netflix and they buy Nike shoes that they're assimilated

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But we see that that's really not the case because what do we find?

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We find that massive amounts of people come over here and do they create the same

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conditions in America that the Europeans created before them

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They don't and this is a matter of fact, I don't even know what he's expecting of

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Immigrants, okay. Okay. So I don't know how you gauge that when immigrants came here

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Uh-huh. Did they start their own country and take the land from other people now? That's interesting

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So then they didn't create the same credit conditions that the Europeans created here. Everybody knows that Wow

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Okay. Well, I don't think I don't think that's the argument Nick's trying to make

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I don't think so, but it does seem like that's the only one that makes sense from the words

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He said yeah, he seems to just have a problem with I guess the idea of

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Neighborhoods. Yeah, I guess he just doesn't like the idea that there are non-white neighborhoods

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Yeah, I mean but but this is so transparently bullshit. Just like that. This is clearly it

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Whatever that whatever the word is whatever word it is immigrants or whatever or or even white its expedience towards

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Incitement. Mm-hmm. Like that's all that matters to him

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If it was if we were in different times, he'd be like, it's the Irish if he were in different times

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He'd be like we we gotta hate

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The Mongols like it doesn't matter. All it is is a tool to get people on

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To act for him. He wants power out of this and I I'm terrified of it

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Yeah, so one of the things you should be terrified of is that he's from the same city as us

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Yeah, here's some thoughts about Chicago. Oh, I imagine so

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We find that massive amounts of people come over here and do they create the same conditions in America that the Europeans created before them?

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They don't and this is a matter of fact if you look at all these different communities I live in Chicago, for example

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Chicago is a third white. It's a third Hispanic and it's a third black when you drive through the Hispanic way roads

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Let's guess what it looks like

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Redlining it looks like an Hispanic neighborhood. It looks like Mexico

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That's an applause break and when I drive through the south side

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I wish I never do, but if I did it would look like Africa

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It would look like Somalia. It would look like Botswana. You should go there

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It's great. Yeah, maybe you should check out the south side, you dumbass

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Go see a White Sox game. God damn it. It's not hard

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White Sox Stadium is basically in the middle of Botswana

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Absolutely, you go down past 95th Street. Who knows what you see?

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Yeah, also, I'm pretty sure he lives in the suburbs. Yeah, of course he does. Of course he does

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But yeah

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I don't understand how this affects his life in any meaningful way other than

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He gets mad seeing people of other backgrounds, other communities

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living

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freely. Yeah, that takes me back to that joke that he said in the last clip or two clips ago or whatever where he's like

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I like them as long as they're over there and everybody laughs and he's like just joking and just joking and then he literally says

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You know the same thing but deadly serious. I don't go to the south side right and that there was no I'm joking

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They laughed the joke is that he does mean it. Yeah, he's deadly serious

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He does mean it but he also doesn't mean it because he's also not fine if these other people are over there

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Jesus, yeah. He never goes to the south side and that's still a problem for him

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Yeah, nobody's even bothering him!

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I

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Don't know man

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Yeah

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I don't even know how to set up these clips because it's just rolling through the interview or not the interview the

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speech as it were and I just I just find everything in it disgusting

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And you know what Detroit looks the same and Haiti looks the same and many cities across this country look the same

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And so tell me where the Democrats were in Africa to make that whole continent that way

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What tell me where the socialist policies were in Haiti and everywhere else in the world that made the conditions the exact same way

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The people come over here

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They pack up their country they take it across the border and they put it down right here

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Now that becomes a problem because this country happens to be my home. That's the problem

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So one of the things I think is important about that clip beyond just the like overt

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You know bigotry that runs throughout everything is that this is counter to the Infowars narrative

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yeah, this is counter to the larger conspiracy that Alex sells because

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He's saying what is it in these countries? Where are the Democrats in those countries where the socialist policies in these countries?

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No, it's intrinsic. These people come from other places. Yeah, and it's not the globalist

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No, it's within themselves. It's not even the devil. It's these people right? It's people

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It's the human spirit that I hate right?

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And I think I think that one of the things that's important to recognize is that this is not compatible

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Really with the the version of the world that Alex tries to sell to his audience

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Yeah, that conspiracy is undermined by Nick's rhetoric

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Yeah, true, and that seems to me to be

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Enough of a reason not to have him on your website

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Well, I mean if you're if you're fine with the other stuff that comes along with it

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I would think it's probably bad for business for you to be yelling about how it's the the

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Globalists and the left and China and all this and then have Nick Fuentes be like, no, it's not it's just race

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Yes, it's all just race. Hey Alex, no globalists skin color, my man

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That's it. The problem is that people look different. Yeah. Yeah, I

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Really? So so again now he's mad about people packing up their country and moving it to an America

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Yes

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He's against that at what point in time are we ever going to deal with America only being a short number of years old bad

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But never I'm gonna go with never that was like fine up until like

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1779 sure. Well, that's fair. That's what that was the cutoff. That's fair fair enough

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So yeah, and now we enter the portion of this clip. That is just sort of fear tactic based

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You know when they say we're bringing people into America, it's very easy to lose sight of what they mean

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They're not bringing them into I don't know. Where else do you think they're coming?

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They're coming to your neighborhoods. They're coming to Jesus. They're sending their kids to your school

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They're going to your place of business

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They're coming to our home and there are people who are proponents of immigration who say things like well

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America's a big country. Look at all this land out in the West. Look at all the land in Nevada and Utah

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We drove through Utah that lands uninhabitable number one, but number two

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They're not sending them there when illegal immigrants pour across the southern border

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Where are they flying them to are they flying them to Nevada or they find them to Minnesota in Michigan and Wisconsin?

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And they're flying them to your neighborhoods and in all the major cities and everybody sees this

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So, I mean it can't get much clearer than the they and you dichotomy that's being portrayed. Yeah, and it's

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Gross just say they're coming for your white women. That's it. Just say that and you'll be done

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They don't need they don't need any more than that. They don't need rhetoric. They just need to hear that

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They're coming for the white women. I imagine that's it. I imagine some of that audience would even like be fine with that

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Yeah, no, totally that rhetoric. Yeah, absolutely

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It's like a classic

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Remember this song. Hey, there we go. There we go

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You know, a lot of people think that segregation ended but I think we could bring it back

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Yeah, we can't have these folks coming to your schools your neighborhood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

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Yeah, yeah, you know a lot of courageous children

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broke through fucking ranks of National Guard members

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Just to go to school and you're like they're sending them to our God. I hate these people. It's pretty bad. It's brutal

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It's from the past man. Yeah, so this is this is kind of where this next clip was where this really

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Elevated into like I cannot believe that Alex is allowing this on his platform

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now this becomes a problem because

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America is not just a place where we like to go to work and where we like to go to bars and drink on the

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weekends and things like that

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America is supposed to be a nation which is constituted of regions states

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communities and fundamentally of

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neighborhoods

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How are you supposed to have a real community in a real neighborhood if people don't even speak the same language on your block?

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How are you supposed to have a real community if people don't believe the same religion and I hate to say this

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But this is a fact of our nature

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Can you have a community if people don't look like each other?

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That is outrageous I I just don't even know I

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Your head is in your hand

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Very very much breathing through it

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Have a community if people look different wild just why you know what you can you can I've lived in so many of them

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No, they're way better than all of the all white ones I've ever lived in. It's insane

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I honestly don't even really know where this logic could be grounded

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Like cuz at what point dude looks like where where's the relevant difference in looks that you could have a community with somebody skin color?

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Facial hair choice. I think is it how much how much uniformity is required?

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Have a neighborhood where somebody across the street from you eats honey nut Cheerios when in your home

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You are eating plain Cheerios those boxes look different exactly. You can't have those in the same neighborhood. I need segregated Cheerios

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Neighborhoods, I want the Jets and the Sharks in different neighborhoods get them all out of here. I want whites only

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I mean what you're really seeing is that there is there's something going on with Nick where he doesn't feel like he is

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Capable or able or anyone is capable of having community with people who speak different languages

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Who have a different religious belief or who have different looks?

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Great, he thinks that about himself and he has universalized it to everybody else

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Which is stupid, but he's saying that in terms of like his own ability to make a community

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Yeah, it shouldn't matter in other places. No where he is not nobody other people are existing totally fine

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And no one's asking you to come to ours

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But what's fascinating about this is he's trying to make both arguments that not only does he not want to

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Live or is he's unable to live in a diverse community

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But that all communities are equally unable to exist

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And so those shouldn't exist the ones that he never goes to the ones that like the South Side

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Yeah, and that's that's really fucked up and the fact that it really comes down to

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Him being so overt that like it looks you how can you have a community with people who look different than you?

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I cannot believe that Alex would

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Be fine with this. Yeah, I mean I can cuz I think it's true. I think he's Alex is similar

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Yeah, this is so optically bad. Yeah

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Well, I mean even Alex takes great pains to go out of his way to be like hey

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I don't care if you're white black or purple or whatever it is. I love you

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It's about God and Jesus the devil not just like hey, you look different fuck off like Jesus, man

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You look different. You should be in a different community

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Also, I don't want you in that community because somehow I believe that you can't coexist with my fellow whites over there

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And also I want you back in a different community and guess what? I'm gonna need to take that land later

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That's gonna need to be my community as well. It's

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Yeah, like God, how can you?

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Jesus they there's only two ways to go for them is if they win it is the country then becomes a fucking

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non-stop conquering country trying to steal everybody else's shit too or the whole thing falls apart and they just

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Separate into smaller and smaller groups that hate each other like it's bananas how stupid all of this is. It's pretty dumb

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But yeah

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Nick is kind of dumb

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I hate to say this, but this is a fact of our nature

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Can you have a community if people don't look like each other?

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Who's the courageous man there

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And that's the question I don't like that I don't love that I'm not saying that that's a good thing

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I'm saying that's how we are and if we want to preserve our

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Communities if we want to preserve the social fabric that binds the country together if we want cohesion in our country

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It's not conducive to any of that to bring over millions of people from foreign countries are totally different

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They come here with different ideas different values different ways of life and differences that are so subtle. They're

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imperceptible the differences are

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Perceptible, but they are still there and they divide people what if you really want to bring America together, but doesn't you would be an American?

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Nationalist and you would be in favor of cohesion

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But the cohesion and the communities are impossible if right look different exactly so you have to have uniform communities

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That's what it means to be an American

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National right now some of these people who are not white who are coming over these immigrant folk

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They may seem totally the same these changes. These differences are almost imperceptible

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Imperceptible, but they're there. Hey, guess what even white people you see secretly

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They might be harboring some

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imperceptible difference between the two of you. I mean if that kind of might be where the next stage of this would yeah, yeah

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Imperceptible is kind of meaning anybody that I say. Yes. Yes. It's it's it's a way of being like well

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I can't really make this argument, but I'm gonna go ahead and demonize. Well, I mean

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fundamentally the the biggest issue with his argument is it is thoroughly intrinsic you

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Can not change

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Simply impossible. Yep. No, there's no way that if you did move to a let's say non majority white neighborhood

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You could change your behavior

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He does not allow for that possibility like not not even not even like you shouldn't have to or anything like that

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He's saying this from a place of it is not possible to coexist. Mm-hmm

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so and and your country of origin is deterministic of what kind of

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Behavior you're going to manifest in any circumstance. Yeah. Yeah, it's um, you are not in an individual

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You are a block now white people are well white people have a lot of individual things

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That's why we can create a country like the United States. Holy shit. Yeah, man, that's brutal. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty bad

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now at this point Nick explains that

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once

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The there's a no longer a white majority in the country. It will be a worse country. Some might say an inferior country. Ah

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So I so perhaps a white nation

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would be superior than a non-white. It seems like that might be part of what he's saying. Okay.

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So they call me a white nationalist because I say if the country is no longer white

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It's gonna be a different country and tell me that's not true. The math speaks for itself

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America won't be a white country in the future and America will be different when it's not a white country. These are two facts

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These are two

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Ignorable, unambiguous. These are insurmountable facts and then when you begin to think about the question

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If the country is no longer white and if we get a different country

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Will that country be better the same or will it be a lot worse?

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The country's gonna be worse. So I

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Don't know. Hey if we end slavery is the country going to be better?

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The same or worse you will have changed the balance of power

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If you allow black people to vote will the country be better or the same or worse because it will be different Dan

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These these arguments seem very similar. Mm-hmm

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I mean like I think I think that just this is kind of he's dancing around defining anything. Yeah

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What does it mean for the country to be better or worse right for to on the grand scale or for you?

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Yeah, individually a guy who can't deal with people who look different, right?

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and are a what change is acceptable is any change acceptable anything like just a

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progressive tax like what what change towards

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America is an acceptable like within the boundaries of possibility change stuff to say, right?

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um, so this is the end of his speech and then I have some I have some thoughts that I want to share at the end if we get a different country will that country be better the same or will it be a lot worse the country's gonna be worse and they call you a white nationalist if you have that very simple train of thought the country is changing the

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People are not interchangeable. You know, they don't we can't just take one guy and swap them out and get the same outcome

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It's gonna be different and what we know about where they come from these other countries don't work

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America's not gonna work anymore, and we don't want that to happen. I want to live in the country that my ancestors created

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I want to live in the country that my ancestors grew up in and I hear my parents tell me stories about they used to go to the corner store and buy their grandpa's cigarette and they used to ride the subway at night or ride the bus or something like that. And can you imagine something like that? Look at our cities. What's going on isn't working.

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So that's the end of the clip and I will say as somebody who's lived in Chicago for the last decade pre-covid

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Yes, I could imagine riding buses and trains after dark. Did all the time. It was great. It's awesome

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That was how I got around a bit of an exaggeration

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You could get really blasted and you could just hop on a train and you'd wind up somewhere in Chicago

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And sometimes you didn't get to the right spot, but that was fine because you could just get on another train back home. Wake up at Howard

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Exactly, then you're fine. Yeah, exactly. So this video Jordan is disgusting and it's a pretty clear articulation of white nationalist beliefs which are being presented with a nice preemptive explanation that these are not in fact white nationalist beliefs

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're gonna hear a lot of people say these are white nationalist beliefs and that's only because I want a white nation

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I mean honestly if you look at the beginning of the speech and the things that he ends up expressing what you have is a I'm not racist but basically in speech form

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Massive. This in and of itself isn't really that groundbreaking. This is the kind of content you can expect from someone like Nick but now it's being posted and hosted on Alex's own website which is kind of amazing in a way

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This represents a looming problem for Alex that I don't think that he's gonna be able to navigate very well

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And that problem may be coming to a head much quicker than he expects. At least if a scan of the comments on this video are any indication

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I don't spend too much time in the comments section on his website. Wise. Wise. Mostly because a lot of it is incoherent anger, slurs and anyone can post whatever they want anonymously so it never really feels productive to assume that individual comments mean anything

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However the comments on this video are fascinating in that they seem to break down into two camps

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The first group is people who seem to agree with Nick. They seem pretty mad and pretty comfortable with just wearing their white nationalism on their sleeve like this one

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Quote, the differences between races isn't just skin color. Deal with it boomers. To each race their own nation. Was that boomers then? I'm okay

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So some of these people on Nick's side let's say are a little more blunt but what I find far more interesting are the people in the second camp which is the camp that recognizes that this kind of content represents a bit of a departure from what Infowars is supposed to be about

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One person summed it up pretty well. Quote, I can't believe how many racists are in this community. I thought we were better than that. I hate how the libtards call everything racist but this guy is actually racist y'all. We don't want this shit scaring

Unknown Speaker (00:40:49.500)

I think they meant scarring the name of Infowars even more. Right. That's. That's right on man. Another commenter makes a good point. Except for the part where he's like I can't believe. I mean man come on you've been in here. Maybe you just didn't realize it

Unknown Speaker (00:41:03.500)

Sure I understand. I'm all about it but come on man. Another commenter makes another good point. Quote, if I sent a family member a link to band.video hoping for them to educate themselves about COVID, the vaccine, election fraud, or the cabal NWO agenda and the first thing they see featured up top of the page is a headline like why we must preserve America's white majority just doesn't look good

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Even if you're in the Infowars world, you believe the narratives and everything, you can recognize that this is something you do not want to be associated with because it's on its face a little bit fucked up

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I like Infowars because he says globalists instead of Jews and then I don't have to think about it, okay? That's why I like Infowars. You can't just be saying white all the time

Unknown Speaker (00:41:49.500)

There's a number of people in the comment section who bring up things like wait until the media picks this up. Making it clear that they know that this is going to be something very attackable which Alex has chosen to associate with and now the audience of the show is going to be associated with it too unless they clearly reject it

Unknown Speaker (00:42:05.500)

That's a tough position to be in and you can see a lot of people decide that they're just going to retreat into a comfortable assumption that Nick is actually a fed plant trying to make Infowars look bad by making videos that are transparently racist so Alex will look racist by extension. Nonsense

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That sounds crazy

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There's a deep division in this comment section and it feels like this could be heading in one of two directions and neither I think look good for Alex

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One possibility is that Alex keeps Nick around and lets him have his channel on the website. Nick's clearly already testing the waters to see what he can get away with and if this video is any indication then he should probably feel no trepidation about pushing even further

Unknown Speaker (00:42:43.500)

If things go this way it seems like there's a contingent of listeners who won't support that and it could lead to them questioning why Alex would distribute this kind of content particularly given how Nick and Alex disagree on the very basis of the conspiracy they're fighting with Nick rejecting the China Democrat socialism big boogeyman that Alex uses to scare the audience

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Down the other road you have the option of Alex kicking Nick off the channel which will only serve to alienate the more extreme elements of Alex's audience

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This is a dangerous game that you get into when you make so much of your political identity about how your viewpoints are secretly correct and everyone censoring you because of it

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If you ever need to censor someone you really put yourself in a difficult position because whatever arguments and attacks you've used against the people censoring you can now be used against you and make no mistake that's precisely what would happen if Alex kicked Nick off the platform

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He's in a no win situation because he let Nick get involved and he kind of has to deal with the association or go against his band dot video principle and I think either way you're gonna have a certain amount of the audience be like why are you doing this?

Unknown Speaker (00:43:53.500)

It was actually kind of heartening to look in the comment section and see people be like what the fuck dude they're like I believe this Federal Reserve conspiracy I've been an Infowars listener for a while

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Three senators got the Fed we got it man I'm with ya no big deal

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But what is this?

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Why is whites only there? Three senators started the Fed I didn't need whites only

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I'm fine with going to the same bathroom as other people

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I wanted to focus on things that were created by people who worked on George Wallace's campaign not George Wallace

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End show perfect that was perfect well done

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Like it's so bizarre though and honestly I think that I might be making a little bit more of this schism than actually exists like there's a decent chance that this will just be a little bubbling thing or

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Comments are always a vocal minority

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Yeah you never really know it could lead to no chaos on the Infowars front but I also see this as kind of a difficult pickle that Alex if not addressed and handled fairly well could end up with a lot of negative

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Not a lot of dicey material being posted on Alex's own website that he now has to answer for

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I don't know if I want to say this so much but this one's free alright this is the only good advice I'm going to give to Alex on purpose

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Get Nick and Dr. Stevie Pease on the same show

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Stevie Pease is not going to like what's going down there because Nick is not going to handle bullshit the same way that other people

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Probably not

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Get that get that as the fight

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That would be electric

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Exactly that's how you do it

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Yeah I mean it was great to have Nick debate Barnes

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Yeah

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But come on let's get Stevie in there

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Let's get Stevie in there you want to get rid of him you know there's going to be a fight you got rid of David Knighton nobody really batted an eye there in fact people were more in the Stevie Pease camp so even the racists will be like yeah but Stevie Pease has got the shit man

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That's what I'm saying his shit is boring I mean it's boring white nationalism it's just it's banal just like hey let's exterminate non-whites you know like it's banal but Dr. Stevie Pease he's in control of white nationalism he's got people embedded in all the white nationalist cells

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True

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He's bringing other countries over here to kill I don't know

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He's done everything

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He's done everything

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Yeah

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It would be nice I mean it would be nice to just see how they would interact

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Oh I want it I want it bad

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Anyway this is a bit of a shorter episode like I said just to take a little look at this and we'll be back on Wednesday with a normal episode

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Indeed

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But until then Jordan

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Do we have a website?

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I think we do

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We have a website

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I've heard we have a website

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It's knowledgefight.com

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Yes we're also on Twitter

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We are on Twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan

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And Facebook

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And we are on Facebook you tell us your iTunes

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Please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work

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Yep we'll be back but until then I'm Neo I'm Leo I'm DZX Clark I'm Daryl Rundis

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And now here comes the sex robots

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Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding

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Hello Alex I'm a first time caller I'm a huge fan I love your work

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I love you