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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Damn and Jordan, I am sweating

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knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray

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I have great respect for knowledge fight

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys

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saying we are the bad guys

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knowledge fight

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Damn and Jordan, knowledge fight

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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her

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I need, I need money

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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her

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Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and

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Stop it, Andy and, Andy and Kansas

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Andy, Andy, it's time to pray

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a victim, calling in my huge fan

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I love your work

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knowledgefight

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N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledgefight.com

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I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around to worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Oh indeed we are, Dan

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I was about to say Psalter of Selene

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I heard it, I was gonna let it go

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Not good

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But you know, now that you've brought it up, I noticed

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Yeah, how you doing?

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Dan, I have a quick question for you

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What is your bright spot for today?

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My bright spot today, Jordan, very exciting announcement

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Yes sir

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So this is something I've been meaning to get to for a while, there have been technical difficulties

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Which is code for my printer hasn't worked

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Sure

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I've been wanting to do this again, we did it like maybe a couple months back, six months back

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Gave some buttons to folks, sent them out, and I wanted to do another run of these

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We have some new designs themed around the cult of Selene

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Excellent

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And I would like to announce officially that we're gonna be doing another run of these buttons

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for folks, and here's how it's gonna work

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Because last time this completely screwed up all of my inboxes

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And I am not interested in that

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A little bit, yeah

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So I've started a new email address that is specifically for this

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You do not have to be someone who gives to the show, you do not have to be

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anything, just anybody, if you would send your email, your address, I will

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You do have to be capable of email

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That is the one limitation on this

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And you have to send me an address to send a button to

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Well true

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And then I will take care of everything else and you will have a button sent to you

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The email address is kfbusiness at gmail.com

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And that's spelled K-F-B-I-Z-N-E-S-S

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KF business

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Let's KF to business

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At gmail.com

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If you send an address to that, there's gonna be a little bit of time, you know, obviously

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Sure

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Gotta make these up so there could be a little bit of a delay

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But we will get this in the works, get some envelopes with your addresses on them

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And get these buttons sent out to you

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I'm very excited

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I really, I know that last time we did this, one of the things that I discovered was

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I was really, really enjoying the process of making buttons

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You loved the meditation of buttons

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Yes, there was a thing too, the crafting of it and the sort of, the repetitive

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Sure, sure

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Zen and the art of button making

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Yeah, yeah, and I feel like we're in a safer place now too

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There's a lot of precautions that we took the last time around

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True

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With wearing gloves while making the buttons and everything

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And now it feels a little bit, you know, we can chill out a little bit and just send out a nice gift

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Just send out some buttons

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Yeah, so I'm very excited about that

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And if you all want to send in some addresses, we'll get those buttons your way

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Yeah, now admittedly this time his gloves will be on and they will be coated with anthrax

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So it's a little bit of a different problem

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I met an Elvis impersonator and he had some ideas

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What about you Jordan, what's your bright spot?

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My bright spot is, it's low, it's in the early stages

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It's not a super bright spot

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But after a year of writing nothing but mean things to Taylor Swift and stories about wizards

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I've started a new project

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That's great

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It's much larger

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Hopefully it'll be about the size of the book I put out last year

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So that's spectacular

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Yeah, and if it's any longer people will definitely not finish it

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So I'm fine with that

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Here's the inspiration

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Yes, I'm very excited

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Clink

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Yes, absolutely

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Well, I wish you the best with that

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Yes, me too

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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over and it's a little bit of a challenge

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It was a tough challenge for me

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And here's what happened

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Okay

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So Jordan, Alex was out of studio at the beginning of this week

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He was in New York

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Sure

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I mean, I think you're

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Is he allowed in New York?

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Maybe, yeah

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Doesn't Letitia have people on the border?

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Well, see, I think that a lot of people probably, that's the first thing their mind would go to

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Is that he's probably going to deal with some sort of a legal issue with

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the attorney general of New York, Letitia James

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Who he has threatened on air multiple times

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And of course, he had the cease and desist for some of the products that he was selling

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And I think that there is a possibility that that's the case

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You know, like, you suspiciously went to Connecticut

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Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah

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Recently, it's like, oh, why'd you go there?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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Maybe something to do with one of your court cases

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It's possible, but also he was going there to do a podcast

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He went on that Flagrant 2 podcast

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Oh, yeah, when he was drunk last time

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He said all the weird stuff

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Well, yeah, he was so drunk last time that I don't even care to cover it

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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And so, like, he went there

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You could think that maybe he's going there for some legal issue

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But then also maybe he's just doing this podcast

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Yeah, sure

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And so that was a possibility

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Maybe we cover that episode

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Sure

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Simultaneously, Kill Tony, the podcast, had Alex as a guest

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Ugh

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Tony Hinchcliffe, noted Asian slur purveyor

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Yeah, hasn't anybody taken that towards his career?

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Yes, actually

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Let's kill Tony's career

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Can we do that?

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Well, I mean

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That's my new podcast

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He did get dropped by his agent

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Well, that's good, we're on our way

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So we've at least maimed Tony's career

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Yeah, I mean, I don't think it'll matter

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Because the cult of Rogan Enterprises has him ensconced under their umbrella

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But yeah, so Tony Hinchcliffe is a writer, guy, and comedian

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Who he formerly wrote for the WWE and such

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And he's one of Rogan's buddies

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And he's one of the ones who decided to go to Austin

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Because their bread is buttered in a very specific place

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Yeah, yeah, there's no reason to be in LA anymore

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People don't like me there

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No!

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Bye!

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Texas is where I'm welcome

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My career revolves around Joe Rogan

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Joe Rogan's going to Texas

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I am too

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That's so sad

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No, it's not

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I think it's people understanding where their cottage industry is

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Oh no, totally

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I'm talking about the specifics of my career revolves around Joe Rogan

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He can do worse

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Yeah, that's true

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So Kill Tony is a podcast that he does

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That grew out of this open mic at the Comedy Store

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I believe it was called Potluck Night or something

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Something like that, yeah

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And so like they just

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I guess they just decided like let's find a way to monetize this

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And so they monetized an open mic

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Not terrible

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Yeah

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Of the business decisions for an open mic

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That one's probably the best I've ever heard

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Sure

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I've listened to a number of episodes of it

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Because there was a morbid curiosity on my part

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And like back, you know, a ways back

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Not just just recently

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But you know the show is basically you've got Tony

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You got his producer Brian Redban

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And then you got a guest

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A celebrity comedian guest

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And they just act like hot shit while

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Yeah, they just talk shit

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A comic does a minute of material

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Which is impossible to tell

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No, no, no, that's all you need

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That's all you need

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That's all you need to know if you've got it

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Yeah, and then the guests and the hosts will fuck around and act cool

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And generally be overly encouraging of some things

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And overly mean to anybody who doesn't fit into their like their box

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Yeah

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And it's just dumb

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And I wanted to cover it kind of

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Because I felt like, all right, this could be fun

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This could be a fun thing to do an episode about

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But so much of the episode is like about other people's stand-up sets

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Sure

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And open mic stand-up sets

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And I don't want to cover that

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And Alex was the guest

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He wasn't due in a minute

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Yes

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He was the guest judge

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Okay

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And so like I guess I have this drop

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How about some of that Joe Rogan weed?

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So there's that

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Okay, all right

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I guess I have this drop

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Once a year?

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Yeah, I have this drop

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You have a beautiful vagina

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Have a nice night

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I guess we got that out of it

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Great

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There's a part where Alex smells some girl's feet who's in the audience

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Cool

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They call her up on stage because one of the open micers has a foot fetish

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And then they get somebody with a foot to smell

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And I don't know

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Great

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Yeah, that's not an episode

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Great, great

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I'm loving every part of this right up my alley

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I'm sure Alex had some insightful criticisms for the comedians

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There's one guy who had some dumb jokes

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And Alex is like, I'm drunk but that was a very cerebral set

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Okay

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I enjoyed that

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There is some insightful criticisms there

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Yeah

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I think actually surprisingly at least at the beginning

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He was a little bit more thoughtful than Tony

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Yeah, well

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Or Red Band

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Yeah, well, familiarity breeds contempt if you will

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It's very difficult for me because, you know, critiquing some of this stuff within the comedy space

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Is always going to be walking in molasses

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Sure

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There's not like

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People will just hide behind the like, it's comedy, I'm just joking

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Right, right

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Whatever stuff

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And I don't know, I was listening to the Kill Tony

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And I thought like, I have a lot of complaints about this

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But who cares

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Yeah, I kind of feel like maybe listening and criticizing a podcast

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That's about listening and criticizing comedians

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Open mic comedians

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Is just a waste of everyone's time

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Yeah, it felt like challenging, nay, impossible

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To make worth listening to

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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And so I was like, well, maybe we'll do a little bit about that episode of Flagrant 2

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Sure

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You know, why not?

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This is a little bit longer, this is a conversational piece

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Yeah, I want to know what their feet smell like

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Alex was so drunk on the first time that I just didn't want to cover it

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This time he's a little bit better, but I couldn't handle listening to it

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It's so annoying

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And look, I think that the hosts actually make a couple of pretty decent jokes

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Oh, okay

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Like, I can see a little bit of why, if that's what you like, that's fine

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Okay

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If you like broey, edgy comedy

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Sure

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Or whatever

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Sure, sure, sure

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Chat where people are talking about, hey, I had a threesome last week or whatever

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Ooh, what a

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If you enjoy that, then I can see, you know, this being up your alley

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Sure

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It was insufferable for my purposes

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Hmm

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Alex takes his shirt off at one point early

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Oh boy

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Early

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Early

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And one of the hosts

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What is he, did he see Burt Kreischer on Kill Tony?

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Get this

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What?

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One of the hosts calls him Burt Kreischer

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Okay, well there we go

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And then the other host makes the joke, did you say Burt crisis actor?

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Which is not bad

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Boo

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See, it's not bad wordplay, it's not bad wordplay

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I understand the wordplay

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I understand the wordplay

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But see, it's funny because Alex ruined a bunch of people's lives

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See, these guys are just jokes, they're making jokes to Alex

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Right, right, right, right

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Not critiquing him about how he ruined a bunch of people's lives by calling them crisis actors

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No, it's hilarious

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Yeah, it's funny

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No, whenever you leave a wake of misery and destruction, what you should do with that is like

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make it a funny little bit that you can pun off of

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Yeah, it's hilarious

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Yeah, everybody will be like, holy shit, I can't believe he pulled it off

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Yeah

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Yeah

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So I mean like, look, it's obviously only funny because

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you're talking about something monstrous that the person next to you did

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Right, right, right, right

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But that said, fine wordplay

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Anyway, I really struggle

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More like Iraq bored George W. Bush

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All right, let's all have a fun time

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See, that's a fun joke to make in a friendly conversation with George W. Bush

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Yes, exactly, very funny

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Yeah, oh man, that genocide

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You are, whoo, let me see, your pictures are dumb, hahaha, all right

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So we have a couple things that I'm going to talk about towards the end of the episode

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from the Flagrant podcast because I think there were even, you know, like as much as it's just

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like, ah, these guys are just bullshitting and having fun and whatever, I don't care

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I don't care

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Yeah

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But there are a couple of salient points that I think could be brought up and, you know,

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whatever, we'll talk about that at the end of the episode

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Gotcha

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Thankfully, something happened that's breaking news and Alex had to weigh in on it

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And so that's what we'll be talking about today

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A special report that Alex put out last night as we're recording this

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Wednesday evening

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All right

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So this is a last minute

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Is it an emergency report on something that was reported roughly a year ago

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that we're finally talking about now?

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No, no, no, this is actually breaking news

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You know what we're going to talk about

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Oh, that's a good idea

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So first, Chavez, why Chavez? Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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Thank you, Chavez, why?

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Thank you, Alex in Blunderland

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Jordan's Laughter is Sweet Sweet Music, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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Okay

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And then, look, Technocrat, shout out going out to...

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D-I-E-C-O-B-R-O-S

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You're now a technocrat

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I'm a policy wonk

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Crikey, mate, that's fantastic, have yourself a brew

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?

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Let's just get down to business

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We ain't making that money off that heroin

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Why are you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large

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I declare info war on you

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Thank you so much

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Yes, thank you very much

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Now, Jordan

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Yes, sir

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We have to get contemplative

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Okay

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Giving someone life is giving someone death

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You could say that...

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Life is death

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You could

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So first, Fiona got a birthday this week

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So happy birthday, Fiona

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Happy birthday, Fiona

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Laura and Lisa reached out and wanted to wish Ron a happy birthday

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So happy birthday, Ronnie

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Happy birthday, Ron

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Yeah

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Cooper got a birthday coming up

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Jillian says happy birthday

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Happy birthday, Coops

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Also would like to wish a happy 21st anniversary to Heather and Phillip

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Also known as Captain Awesome

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Okay, together they're known as Captain Awesome?

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Probably Mizra and Miz Awesome

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Okay, all right, well that's good

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Also, I checked into this

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You know, the Hallmark recommends yearly anniversary gift

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Sure, sure

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They got the paper anniversary

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That's first anniversary

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Right, right, right

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What do you think the 21st is?

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Because I checked into this just to be sure

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Is it like brass or something?

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Is it one of those?

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It's brass, but it's specifically like a tuba

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It's like that kind of brass

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Hallmark recommends a 21st tuba anniversary

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Gotcha

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34th anniversary is woodwind

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Yes, of course, naturally, yes

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No, it's a themed gift surrounding the idea of fire

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So that's an interesting

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All right, so let's go with

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I mean, I have a tattoo of a fire bender's symbol

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So we've got that

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You can get yourself some fire bending tattoos

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Sure

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I think that's a great idea

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Talk to Zuko, get that out

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You know what I'm saying?

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Sure

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Yeah, fire-based gifts

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Light your house on fire

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Yep, and finally

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Black Dragon Queen Christy

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Oh!

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Our old friend Christy

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Happy birthday coming up

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Happy birthday

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This weekend

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And also end of last month

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End of May

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Christy and her husband Monty celebrated their 30th anniversary

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No shit!

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What?

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What in God's name?

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Do you get like a pair of timpani for that?

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What kind of, are we just doing orchestral anniversaries at this point?

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30th anniversary is office or desk decor

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That's a lie

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That's actually the 41st anniversary

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The 41st

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So you're telling me that I'm somewhere at, I mean, conservatively in my 70s

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Uh huh

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And you're getting me some office equipment?

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So even in Hallmark's world, you work till death

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Absolutely

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There is no retirement, no social security

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No

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Office equipment

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Yes, office equipment on your 41st anniversary

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30th is apparently pearls from what this is saying

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I would rather have that one, end your marriage at 30

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Why would you make it all the way to 41?

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You don't need office equipment, 30 years is long enough

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You're gonna love 39th anniversary

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What's that one?

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Laughter

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Laughter

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Well Dan, every day I celebrate my 39th anniversary

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Yeah

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Weird, this list is weird

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That is a weird list

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53rd anniversary

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That is, that is the list

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53rd, what do you think it is?

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You've made it a long time, you're 53 years into a marriage

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I feel like

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Keep in mind, 40th anniversary is ruby, right?

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So, okay

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So 53, what is it?

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So the decades are precious items

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Yes, 50th is gold

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And then the intervening years is, is, I guess at random

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Nick Maxx

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It's a bunch of shit pulled out of a hat

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Yeah

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I suppose

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So what's 53?

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50th is gold

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60th is diamond

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60th is diamond

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40th is ruby, what's 53?

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53, I gotta go with marine creature

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Plastic

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Plastic, plastic

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Laughter

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So you're telling me that I'm at 90 years old and I'm getting saran wrapped for my anniversary?

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If you're lucky

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All right

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If someone's following the Hallmark recommendations

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Thanks Hallmark

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Anyway, happy anniversary, Christine

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Happy birthday

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Also, Alex would like to remind everyone that we were born dead

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Yes

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Life is death

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Or something

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Or something

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So, Jordan, as you know, the big news that was breaking yesterday is that John McAfee is no more

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Yes

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Or

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Is he

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He was found deceased in a prison cell in Spain

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Sure

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He had just gotten word that he would be extradited to the United States

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to face some criminal charges

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Yeah, I think if I were being extradited from Spanish prison to United States prison,

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I'd be like, nah, I'm out

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It's, it's hard to say, but it's not if you're Alex

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Hmm, John McAfee did not kill himself in public statements and on his own Twitter

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As early as just last week, he said, I will never commit suicide if I die in prison

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I have been murdered by the US government

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I'm going to listen to a man I'm new and respected

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Not the lying corporate media that before his body's even cold

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You respected?

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It's a suicide with no coroner or no inquest

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This thing sneaks to high heaven just like Jeffrey Epstein

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That's a good, that's a good cold open to his special report that he put out

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That's not bad, that's pretty direct

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So even if we take as absolute gospel fact that McAfee said he would never kill himself,

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he was the definition of an unhinged,

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drugged out lunatic who said complete bullshit, essentially for a living

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I would never imagine that a man so respected as John McAfee

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would perhaps send out a dumb idea very quickly before he thought it through

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A couple of my favorite things that he said that were complete nonsense were,

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you know, like when he said that he had nothing to do with his neighbor in Belize's murder

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No

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Or that time that he said that if Bitcoin wasn't trading at $500,000 within three years

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from July 17th, 2017, he would quote, eat his own dick on national television

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Did he ever do that?

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He didn't

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Oh, I guess it's too late now

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Some of his more recent work includes that time that he tried to create a publicity stunt hoax

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where he pretended to have been arrested for refusing to wear a mask,

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wearing a lace thong on his face instead

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Ah, he's brilliant

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McAfee and his wife publicly claimed he'd been arrested in Norway,

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but the pictures that they posted as evidence of this were from the Augsburg airport,

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which is in Germany

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The Augsburg police told the media, quote,

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there has never been an arrest, explaining that McAfee tried to enter Germany,

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but decided not to when he was told that he would have to quarantine

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Then he just created a bunch of bullshit on social media

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Right, right, right

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And who could forget the ridiculous runs for the libertarian nomination for the presidential race

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or the very overt and transparent history of involvement in pump and dump cryptocurrency scams

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Sure

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In fact, that was one of the cases that McAfee was facing, along with tax evasion,

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which is what the US was looking to extradite him back from Spain in order to prosecute him for

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Soon before he was found dead,

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a court ruled that he could be extradited to the United States, and this actually really matters

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McAfee was 75 years old, and he was facing essentially the rest of his life in prison

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for his fraud and tax crimes, which he absolutely would be convicted for

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Yeah

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Since there's video that he released of himself where he confesses,

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which might be tough to refute

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Let's hear it

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I have not paid taxes for eight years, I've made no secret of it

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I have not filed returns

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Every year I tell the IRS I'm not filing a return, I have no intention of doing so

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Come and find me

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Yeah, that's gonna be tough

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You know what bums me out?

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What bums me out so much is that we know for a fact that if you are rich,

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you literally can get away with not paying taxes

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like, we just got a New York Times report

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Sure

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About how you don't have to pay taxes if you're rich

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And the only way that you can fuck up if you're rich is if you're just an asshole like this

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It's the only way!

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There's one way!

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It's... some people are too defiant, I guess

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I'll never pay taxes

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Well then use any one of a million loopholes we've created for rich people to not have to do that

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It's about the principle of the thing

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Then fine, you're gonna die in a Spanish prison

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I don't know what to tell you!

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This is on you!

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It's basically like the ceiling, metaphorically which is taxes, is coming down

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Yes

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And there's an open door

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Yes

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And it's like, do you want to go through that door?

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It's open

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It's open

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There's nothing on the other side

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Yes

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There's no punishments

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It's not a trap

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You'll just go off your business

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This is a loophole for the whole roof thing

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The whole thing

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I will not

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I will be crushed by this roof

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Okay

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All right, man

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I can't say with certainty that McAfee died from suicide

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But if that does end up being the determination that experts end up making, I'm not going to be surprised

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I wanted to get a sense of how the media was covering this death

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So I sampled some of the largest outlets that were covering the story

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Mm-hmm

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The headline in CNN was

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quote, John McAfee found dead in Spanish prison after his extradition to the United States was approved

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The article doesn't say that there's a known cause of death at all

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quote, McAfee was found dead in his cell in a prison near Barcelona on Wednesday around 1 p.m.

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Eastern and a medical examiner is on the scene

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A spokeswoman for the Superior Court of Catalonia told CNN

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She said the cause of death is under investigation

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A statement from the Catalonia Regional Government Justice Department

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which manages prisons there

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said that prison medical personnel and guards attempted to perform life-saving procedures

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after finding McAfee but were unsuccessful

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The statement said

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quote, everything indicates unquote that McAfee could have died by suicide

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That article is eminently responsible and doesn't jump to any conclusions

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Wildly so

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The BBC headline was

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quote, John McAfee anti-virus creator found dead in prison cell

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The article also doesn't provide a cause of death but does mention that same press release

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quote, the Catalan Justice Department said prison medics tried to resuscitate him but were not successful

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It's said in a statement that

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quote, everything indicates unquote McAfee took his own life

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Right

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The New York Times story has a headline

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quote, John McAfee software pioneer turned fugitive dies in Spanish prison

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They mentioned the primary source statement

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quote, the Justice Department for the Catalan region in Spain said that pending an investigation

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it was treating his death as a probable suicide

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The NPR story doesn't even talk about the Catalonia Justice Department comment

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instead just reporting

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quote, authorities are investigating the cause of death

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This article even goes out of its way to soften McAfee's image

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and turn him into some kind of a prankster type outlaw

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quote, McAfee took pride in outwitting authorities

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He once boasted about eluding police by dressing as a German tourist in a speedo

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and another time as an angry homeless man

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It's like the NPR version of this is really like

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I mean these things are true

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McAfee did do

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Sure, sure

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He did enjoy creating this outlaw

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Right, right

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On the run image of himself

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Yeah

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Outsmarting the police

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Right

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And you know, it's not wrong for NPR to report that

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but that seems to be the angle that they're taking more

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Yeah, I would have included more of his bombastic psychotic criminal acts

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but I suppose if you want to paint him as a modern day world traveling

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catch me if you can type con artist

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Yeah

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Fine

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Yeah

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Reuters had this headline

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quote, larger than life software mogul John McAfee dies in Spain by suicide, lawyer says

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This is because this story isn't about the actual death

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It's about McAfee's lawyer making a statement that McAfee died by suicide

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quote, McAfee's lawyer Javier Villalba said the anti-virus software pioneer died by hanging

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as his nine months in prison brought him to despair

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Even so, even though this article is saying this

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the article does not say that this in fact was the cause of death

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only that McAfee's lawyer had said that it was

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None of these outlets are reporting anything definitive

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and the information that they have to go on is directly from primary source statements

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one from the Catalonia Justice Department and one from McAfee's own lawyer

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This is responsible reporting of the facts

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I can't find examples of these folks rushing and jumping the gun to call this a suicide

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No, I can hear every editor of every major outlet screaming we're not doing an Epstein this time

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All right, no fuck-ups, no Epstein conspiracy theories

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But here's why this looking at the coverage is important

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Alex is trying to rush and jump the gun on the conclusion that his death was not a suicide

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and in order to do that he needs to make the circumstances around the coverage

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seem as suspicious as possible Alex is reporting a fiction

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which is that the media is immediately and without cause declaring McAfee's death a suicide

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because they're trying to cover something up

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because that kernel of suspicion is necessary for Alex to use this story for his own purposes

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Alex is an opportunist by nature and he needs to use everything he can for his largest benefit

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Just last week Alex was covering that reporter Christopher Sein's death as a definitive

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professional execution and his big prediction was

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the globalists are going to start killing people like himself and Tucker

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This situation with McAfee isn't a perfect fit

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but it's good enough for Alex to use to claim that he was right

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so this absolutely cannot be a suicide in Infowars world

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Yeah, it's almost like it really doesn't matter how responsible the reporting of mainstream outlets is

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Alex is just going to make it up on his own regardless

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Yeah, absolutely

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There's a real danger to this kind of behavior and it's in how Alex's rhetoric has been shaped

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over the course of the past year and even further back honestly

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The COVID pandemic has been declared the globalists big move and something that they can't undo

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This is the end game coming into reality which means that there's no going back

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Alex has said that over and over in so many different constructions

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Victory or death, no going back, they've crossed the Rubicon

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over and over and over again in different ways saying there's no going home again

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Also, I'm very very sorry Hamdi, it's on me, I apologize, I know I said I would die on that hill

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but listen, my bad

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The rhetoric surrounding how this is like the end game and you know this is the big move

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That's dangerous enough on its own

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and if Alex is now going to start reporting stuff like people like McAfee dying as the

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globalists killing off brave patriot leaders

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What's the logical leap he's expecting his audience to make?

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He constantly talks about how everyone needs to keep lists of globalists in their town

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and be ready to take them out when things jump off

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How is killing off patriot leaders

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not the most explicit evidence that things have jumped off that you could imagine?

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Yeah

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Whether he means to do this or not is kind of irrelevant

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It's just part of the message that his audience is going to take from that

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As far as I can tell all we can really do is hope that the people who get that message

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aren't the type of listeners that he has who like to take action

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Yeah because the only message you can get is

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once they're done with all of these people they're coming for you

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Right

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So you might as well stop them now before they come for you

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Yeah and talking about like Epstein as a murder, a Hillary murder or whatever

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is a little bit different even because that's like

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all right they're trying to cover up their tracks

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Right

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Or whatever

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It's not a direct assault on the patriot folks

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True

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These people that Alex respects

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Epstein wasn't a patriot that's for sure

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He's not like McAfee a libertarian anti-tax weirdo

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Right right right

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Who actually would go on Infowars

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He really would

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Is this really gonna move the needle though?

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I feel like McAfee is just gonna be a blip and then everybody's gonna be like yeah I'm fine

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Alex needed it to justify the previous coverage of his

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predictions of patriot leaders being killed

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So it's very important for that piece

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True he's got to sell it hard

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But second I don't think that at this point Alex is aware that

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McAfee's Instagram posted a big Q right after he died

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Which is gonna complicate

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That's gonna make it a little weird

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That's gonna make it a little bit dicey

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Yeah so Alex talks a little bit about how he got to know McAfee

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I got a chance to get to know McAfee back in 2012 right after his escape

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from Belize into Guatemala and found to be a larger than life type character

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Then a few years later he came and visited us several times in Austin Texas

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I had a chance to go to dinner with him

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Had a chance to go out shooting with him

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And he was even more larger than life in person

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The guy was definitely an American success story

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He made billions of dollars with his McAfee anti-virus software

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So in terms of being an American success story

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McAfee was born in England

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And he once told the BBC quote I feel as much British as I do American

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Well

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He founded McAfee Associates but he also sold that in 1994

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And since then it's not what I would call a glowing success story

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You know more like a cautionary tale

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Or just perhaps an evil motherfucker wandering around

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Upsetting weirdo

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Yeah that's a good way of putting it

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I'll take that one

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Um so Alex has a comparison

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A historical comparison that he makes

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That what a shock it has to do with booze

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Larger than life

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I would compare the guy to like Captain Morgan

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He's seen on the side of the rum bottles

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I think the pirate

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And he certainly tried to go retire down in Belize and live like a pirate

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Hmm

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Captain Henry Morgan was a big old pile of shit

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I don't know if this is the person you'd want to be compared to

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In his later career he was employed by Jamaica

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To keep privateers and pirates away from the area surrounding the island

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They used to call him the Jamoca from Jamaica

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Instead

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You're gonna compliment the two flagrant two ones?

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But what's Jamoca?

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Jamoke

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Never mind

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Okay

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Instead what he did is he decided to just demand money from pirates

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To allow them to come on to land

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Sure

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So he just basically was like you got to pay me

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Yeah he was running a protection racket

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Basically yeah

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He was an outrageous drunk and he declared martial law twice in a two-year span

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Because of fears of a French invasion

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Which it should be pointed out he was accused of collaborating with the French

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Well

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After all that until his death Morgan owned three slave plantations

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And spent a whole bunch of his time trying to enslave more black Jamaicans

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He sucked

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Yeah yeah but uh you know now we venerate him for his booze I guess

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Yeah

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That's good

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I would imagine that Alex knows him as a pirate on a bottle of rum

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Yeah I very much doubt the true story of Captain Morgan is high on anybody's list

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Although I would guess that if Alex knew some of these things he'd be like even more into him

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That's pretty cool man

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I would like to run my own island fortress and collaborate with the French to overthrow my own fucking home

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Allegedly

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Yes

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It's unclear

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Okay that's fair

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So um Alex

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I would hate to tarnish his name

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Alex's big piece of evidence that he has really to go on

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About McAfee and how this could not possibly this has got to be a murder

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It's the one time he tweeted out that I would never commit suicide and if I die in a prison

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It's because the United States government murdered me

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Yeah yeah it's tweets

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Okay

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Now he's dead and all we have is his last communications this year and last year

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And the year before saying he would never commit suicide

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Here's another one from October of last year 2020

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I am content here

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I have friends the food is good all is well

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This is in the Barcelona prison

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Know that if I hang myself a la Epstein it will be no fault of mine

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So that's a second time he's saying I will not commit suicide and if I die in prison it's a setup

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That's the first instance that I heard in this report of Alex having

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I don't know why he's saying this is the second time

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I think it's probably an editing screw-up

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Yeah

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I'm not sure

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So this tweet is probably the strongest evidence that Alex has that McAfee didn't kill himself

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Since he said he wouldn't do that in October

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I accept this as something that makes sense on its face but I also don't think it proves anything

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John McAfee was one of the most unhinged unstable people in the public eye

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And it isn't necessarily wise to take most of the things he says without a giant grain of salt

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Okay

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I can believe that in October he may have felt that he would never commit suicide

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But that was also eight months ago

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And a lot can change to a person's mental state over the course of eight months

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Particularly if they're in a foreign prison and maybe without the drugs that they generally do

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It could change your mindset

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McAfee has had a long history of being arrested in foreign countries

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Or being wanted in foreign countries and getting away and going on the run

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When he was a person of interest in his neighbor's murder and beliefs

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He fled the country and he got away with it

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More notably in 2019 he was arrested and released when he docked his boat in the Dominican Republic

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He was on the run from the United States for that old tax thing

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And he'd taken to living on his yacht I guess in international waters

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Like some goddamn Andy Daley character

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Yeah that sounds fun

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Yeah

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To kill time on the boat McAfee posted some pictures of himself with a bunch of big old guns

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This drew the attention to the Dominican Republic authorities when he tried to dock

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So he was arrested and held for four days and then he was released

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You know what I think about going on the run?

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If I was running from the law I would try also very hard to not be noticed

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Hmm See that would be part of my strategy of like

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If I had the opportunity to tweet out something I would be like

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Maybe people will notice this Yes

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And I don't think I should do that

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So you're saying that when you're on the run it's kind of like you're in the no flex zone

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You know I might even change my name or at the very least get a new Twitter handle

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I would try and get rid of that blue check mark

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Yeah I think it doesn't serve your interests of being on the run

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To like really publicize a bunch of

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I'm living out on this boat with these giant guns

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No one will ever catch me

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This is impressing my Instagram followers

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But might be working across purposes of my trying to be on the run

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I think that might be why he got caught so many times

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Maybe

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Yeah

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John McAfee has a history of getting in trouble and then the consequences just disappear

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So in October just after he'd been arrested in Spain

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If you're him there's no way you think you're going to be in jail for the next eight months

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Let alone end up extradited to the United States after that

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Totally

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Him posting that tweet I can see that kind of as shit posting

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I mean it might as well be him saying like

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I'll probably find a way to escape in a week

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Like that's what he's doing

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Until some actual evidence can be presented to the contrary

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I see no reason to think that the simplest explanation here is impossible

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Like John McAfee's luck had run out

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He was going to be returned to the United States and he was likely going to be in prison for years

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He was a vagabond, a world traveler, a guy who flees countries and lives on boats

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The prospect of long-term incarceration seems like exactly the thing that he would find intolerable

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Yeah fuck that

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There's a lot of questions that do remain to be answered

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But making this a hit team murder I think is going to be a really uphill battle for Alex

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Especially if the thing he's leading with is a tweet from eight months ago

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Yeah

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I don't know

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I mean, because then you just get back to like

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Really? Why? Why would they send a hit team?

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Yeah

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What's a hit team? You could be, I mean, you know

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Also

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Like for McAfee?

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Also McAfee has very publicly on Twitter in interviews said that he has a dead man switch

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Yeah

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So like

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Okay

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Yeah

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Okay fine

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Yeah that's like okay anybody who would want to kill him presumably because he has some

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kind of information that they want covered up

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Yeah

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Would be like oh wait

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They don't want him to go on trial

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Oh wait if he if he ends up getting killed then his wife is just going to release all of these

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Sure

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Docs or whatever

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Yeah it's it's nonsense this is all just a spy novel

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Yeah yeah

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And it's sad because like ultimately the the story is a tragic one I think

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Uh I mean you know to a certain extent you could just describe it as the

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quick destruction of one man's mind

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I don't know if it was that quick

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Consequences

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I think it's been long

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When you give them a lot of money

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I don't think it was quick

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Well

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This has been going on a while

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No I mean his mind was destroyed fairly quickly

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Perhaps

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Yeah

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So uh not only did he tweet once he tweeted another time too

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Here's another one that was put out in November of 2019

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So a year before the one in 2020

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And I quote

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Kidding

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I like fucking whales

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From US officials saying in effect we're coming for you McAfee

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We're going to kill yourself

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It's a nice turn of phrase

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We're going to arc inside you

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We're going to kill yourself

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I got a tattoo today just in case I am suicide myself

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I didn't

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I was whacked

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Check out my right arm

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And there is again his tattoo with the money there and the whack saying why he was killed

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Those tweets are real but also John McAfee was a delusional paranoid drug addict

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Who promised to eat his own dick on tv as a way to promote cryptocurrency

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Probably as part of a pump and dump activity

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This isn't compelling evidence of anything

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Like these tweets and him getting a tattoo that says dollar sign whacked

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It's not evidence to me of anything other than McAfee was unwell

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Yeah and maybe those weren't turns of phrase so much as typos and poor grammar

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Swacked

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Yeah could have something

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Maybe I might not be so much the well-done authorly talents of McAfee

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I would love if Alex did also try to go through McAfee's

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Yeah just start reading

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Just start going through his twitter follow

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I'm trying to explain some of this shit

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Yeah yeah go for it go for it

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Let's let's all start talking about whale fucking

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That's what needs to be in the public eye

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So Alex needed to jump in front of this really fast

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Right

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He needed to get a narrative out and

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Can't let the cement dry on this one

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No

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No no no

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Within minutes of him being announced dead we're told it's a suicide

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Just like we were told with Breitbart it was a heart attack before his body was even cold

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And no coroner's examination

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And the coroner that finally looked at him then was poisoned by arsenic and died

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Political assassination is a very real thing in America a very real thing around the world

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So we already talked about this the the outlets that Alex thinks are in on this

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Conspiracy did not report that it was a suicide within minutes

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There was dry matter-of-fact coverage of the Catalonian statement and then

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Eventually Reuters reported the statement that was made by McAfee's lawyer

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I strongly suspect that Alex's claim that within minutes it was called a suicide is

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Based on random tweets he saw

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That sounds

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Which is meaningless

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Most likely

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We did a whole episode about the day after Andrew Breitbart died and

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Nothing Alex is saying is real about that case either

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The media didn't immediately call it a heart attack and the initial reporting that

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It was suspected to be a heart attack

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The place that came from and the direct line that everyone was quoting

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Was a press release put out by Breitbart's own website

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Yeah

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There's no conspiracy there

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As for the coroner thing that was just a conspiracy narrative that's based on nothing

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This was about the death of Michael Cormier a person who worked at the coroner's office

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The problem is that he had nothing to do with Breitbart's autopsy and the amount of arsenic

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He had in his system was so large that one of the detectives on the case said

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It would be impossible to poison someone without much arsenic without them noticing

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And people were pretty confused by that case

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Yeah

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Yeah

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Alex can't prove that Cormier's death was a poisoning or like an intentional poisoning

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Sure sure sure

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And he can't prove that Breitbart didn't die from a heart attack

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All he can do is pull at strings real or imagined in order to create a sensational storyline that

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Fits his purposes

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One of the most important aspects of this is the narrative that the media immediately calls

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These death suicides or in Breitbart's case a heart attack

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Because that implies that there's a cover-up

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And if there's a cover-up that means that there's something to cover up

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And that means that it's a murder

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Yep

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In Breitbart's case Alex was just making up that the media immediately called it a heart attack

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And in this case he's doing the same thing with McAfee's death

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It's a pattern of behavior that exists not because he's responding to real reporting

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But because he's operating from a pre-existing script

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Regardless of what any media outlet published about McAfee's death

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As soon as Alex heard that he was dead he knew the angle was

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That the media immediately called it a suicide

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Totally

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And that's suspicious

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Yeah

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The rest of this video is is kind of

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Bleh

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I mean here Alex is just defending himself

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This is nonsense

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Of course he's talking about himself

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I think the evidence is overwhelming that John McAfee was targeted

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He told us why and was killed in a Spanish prison

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For the cryptocurrency they believe he had or for other secrets

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But regardless his work will live on promoting libertarian ideas of basic freedom

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What like

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For the cryptocurrency they just want his money?

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He doesn't have that much money

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He might have a bunch of bitcoin or something

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I have no idea

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Sure

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But like

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I'm sure he has tons of money but the people we're talking about are like multi-billionaires

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McAfee wasn't a multi-billionaire

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Right right right

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If the globalists were trying to kill him for his money that's silly

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Yeah

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Second I don't it's not like you can kill someone and then automatically you just get their bitcoin

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No you see you don't understand how blockchain works

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I don't think Alex understands that

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It operates under highlander rules

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If you cut off somebody's head the power immediately it's the quickening it's the bitening

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It's basically like in Assassin's Creed when you have auto loot

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Yes exactly yeah yeah when it picks it up for you

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It's perfect

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Um yeah so Alex is saying that the evidence is overwhelming and and I I listen to this

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I see no evidence

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None

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I see a couple of tweets

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I see the most reasonable course of action being the explanation for events

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Yeah

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It's the one that makes the most sense to me

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Yeah

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I mean if I'm 75 I'm a globe traveling uh rich dude who's escaped over and over and over again

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You've gotten

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Now I'm

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You've gotten outrageously lucky

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Totally

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You've lived probably one of the most insane lives imaginable

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Absolutely

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Full of adventure in foreign countries uh ducking and dodging

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Totally

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Uh boxing above your weight class forever

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And what are you gonna what are you gonna get?

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You're gonna get another 10 years of life in an American prison?

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That's awful you don't want to do that so fucking offer yourself it makes sense

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I mean

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It does

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As tragic as that is and as much as I don't want to minimize

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you know people who are struggling with suicidal ideation

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There's no way out or anything like that

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It is imaginable to put yourself in McAfee's position and be like the indignity of the trial

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Yep

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The damage that the trial would do to the things that he has made the most important parts of his

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life like cryptocurrency

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Yep

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You could see taking the outdoor

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Yeah

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I don't know

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I think I'm not making any assumptions

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I'll let the information guide me to whatever conclusion is there

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But based on the statement from the Catalonian Justice Department

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Based on the statement from his lawyer that they are saying this is an apparent suicide

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Yeah

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I don't see a reason to doubt that

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The only reasons to doubt that are

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Nutty tweets from somebody who tweeted nutty shit all the time

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Yeah

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I'm not going to take that and that's not going to stand up in any kind of court

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Even the court of my mind

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Oh this lying liar said something? I guess I must believe it

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Yeah

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Yeah

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I got nothing here

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I think the further and maybe larger problem for me is I just don't care

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I just don't care that McAfee

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He's just not important

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He's like a sideshow

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It's like it's like a carnival barker and it's like

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I just don't see the power that Alex is thinking that he can wield through this

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Do you know what I mean?

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Yeah that I get what you're saying and I'm not super interested in the case itself

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As much as I am the behavior and what it illustrates

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Totally

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I think that the important thing to take away from this is really understanding that Alex put

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out this report that night because when we talk about that concrete idea the idea that

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when concrete is wet a leaf that falls on it could leave a permanent impression

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You got it

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And the information space is fairly similar and when a story when the details aren't out

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when there isn't like solidified information surrounding stuff you can make an indentation

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in that concrete

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Yeah a lot of people are gonna think that Subway has never used tuna in their sandwiches

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Exactly

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It's already happened it's too late now

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And with this Alex is trying to put into his audience's mind before there's any solid

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information that the media immediately reported that it was a suicide and that's suspicious

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because McAfee tweeted some crazy shit

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That's and that you know that it's a consistent behavior

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Yeah it's it's one of the most kind of worrying and disgusting things is that the conservative

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media has so insulated their listeners and viewers and the like that they can make claims

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about any other media because they know you're not going to go check you didn't listen you

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don't read the the papers what what person who is reading Infowars articles is then going

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to be like and now I'll switch over to the Reuters article that's not happening so you

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can just make any fucking claim that you want about what the media said because they'll

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believe anything you say about what the media said you own the mainstream media if you are

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in the conservative sphere

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It's a puppet that you can wield

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Exactly

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And even if you are like an Alex Jones listener and you go check the Reuters store you'll

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see the headline larger than life software mogul John McAfee dies in Spain by suicide

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lawyer says there you go and you'll ignore the part in the headline that says lawyer

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says why would you be like oh they are reporting that he died exactly you know and it's yeah

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it's it's it's a trap and it's a trap that's used intentionally yeah because the false

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version of this story or the presumptive version of this story is useful for Alex

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Yeah no it's one of their most powerful weapons controlling the narrative that they're telling

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you is the narrative they're selling that's just that's that's complete control over

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information yeah you know it's just it's just ironclad you can't escape from that so

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it's a real bummer

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So I think a lot of people probably were reflecting on some things when McAfee the news broke

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certainly I was taking a nap and I woke up and I had a text from a friend telling me

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about this news and my immediate response was well I bet Hillary did this

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Did Hillary do it?

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Um maybe

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Okay all right all right so jury's still out on that

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Yeah I think some people had some fun remembering that time he said that he was

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going to eat his dick on television

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That was good times

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But for Alex he had a slightly different response

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A lot of our interviews with him over the years were on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook

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Dozens of them got banned and knocked off we never re-uploaded them to ban.video

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This reminded us to so we're going to create a John McAfee archive page and we'll post

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all the interviews we've done with him and any other interviews that are out there that

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have been censored and so we're going to put a few of the interviews on the tail end of

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this right now when we're shooting with him my first interview with him in 2012 and then

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we'll endeavor to post some of the other archives in a John McAfee section again at ban.video

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We're gonna juice this thing

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Oh man guys I just gotta let you know the iron's hot and we better be striking

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Yeah

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Jeez

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No one has told me that his Instagram posted a queue

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Quick! Quick! Exploit this! Quick!

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Shit

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We need a new page we need to get traffic to that page and we need to fill it with ads

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Uh somebody call Steve Pachanik and tell him to pretend he was on the yacht

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Yes exactly

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Uh all right

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I'm waiting to find out that Stevie P's is the one who orchestrated the assassination

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of McAfee

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He's been getting out of pocket

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Now my people in Catalonia

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Yeah exactly

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All right man

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So like you already sort of uh

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suspected and uh I think anyone would uh Alex does have to make this about himself

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Sure

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And you know it makes sense he's in a big season right now about how he's under threat

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Yes

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And the globalists are gonna come for him and they're gonna like kill his family and set him up for it or

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Of course, of course

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Whatever we heard this like a week ago on his show

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Makes sense

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And so he can't not take this opportunity to restress that theme

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Now just when in closing I want to say to listeners

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We've been getting a lot of threats a lot of attacks by the globalists as well

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They are making their move worldwide they are killing so many reporters so many journalists

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So it'll be a thousand percent a trillion percent clear to infinity

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I will never commit suicide I will never kill myself

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And if I'm found dead in a jail cell or if I'm found dead in a hotel room with a needle in my arm

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Or anything like that it is the deep state that did it and I want them held accountable

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If anything happens to me look at Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, the deep state of the new world order

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They are the enemies of America the enemies of humanity and they're the ones that have long histories of serious criminal activity

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And never being held accountable

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So if anything happens to me the thunderbolt should strike me

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And what the godfather says, blame those people

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So you know, maybe it is Hillary?

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Could be, could be

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I would prefer if every time he was like

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If they find me with a needle in my arm if he just got really specific into what kind of drugs and alcohol he's doing

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If they find me in a hotel surrounded by three empty bottles of Jack Daniels

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You know they killed me

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That is their fault one hundred percent

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Because I'm a Jameson man

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Everyone knows it

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So this is the only actual content and analysis that Alex put out

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And it's as boilerplate as you can get

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There's more information that's yet to come out

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And Alex knows that once that information is available

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His job of rewriting this narrative is going to be next to impossible

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The only time to act is immediately

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So you get this, a rushed formulaic meaningless insistence that McAfee didn't kill himself based on a couple of years old tweets

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It just doesn't matter, and this episode I think is still salient

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And I think it's important to do because it's important to recognize these tricks

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This is a key trick that Alex uses

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And the one thing that I find fucking exciting

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And I haven't, you know, we're recording this during the day on Thursday

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So we haven't had time to listen to the end of the week shows

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Of his, I want to know how he incorporates that cue on Instagram

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Because that's going to be tough

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Alex has already said that QAnon is a globalist intelligence operation

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Which seems like this is going to be something he has to either ignore

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Or maybe it's the globalists taunting people on McAfee's Instagram

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Could be, could be

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It could be that they put it on there to claim responsibility for his murder

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That way they put the cue on there so Alex knows that it's the globalists who are doing it

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Could be

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That could be an option for him

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It's going to be an interesting needle to see him thread

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And I'm excited to, I'm not really all that excited, but I think it'll be interesting

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Maybe actually we're just finally figuring out the real spelling of John McAfee

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It's M-Q-A-F-E-E

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And he had to change it for the software

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Maybe it's him admitting that he's Q

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It could be, I don't think so

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Probably not

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So that's it for the McAfee coverage

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Sort of exactly what you'd expect

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A little underwhelming

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Yeah

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Whatever

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Yeah, it would be nice if there was one

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You know, when the cement is this soft

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And you can really just pull off whatever you want

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I want one big swing

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You gotta give us at least one big swing

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Of like a perpetrator, or a group of people, or something other than just like the globalists and Bill Gates

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And they want it as crypto

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Yeah, yeah, there needs to be a good story behind it that you've got

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You know, you can't just be like, oh well the media's lying

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You have to give me a better story

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Especially when you're lying about what the media's saying

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Yeah, when you're not even doing the bare bones of your job

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You're making up media coverage in order to justify your made up shit

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Right, right, right

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It's just stupid

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Give me something, give me like, oh, did you know that Brian Stelter was in Spain last month

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And then we're like, aha, now I've got it

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Give me something like that

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Somebody was in Spain around that time

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Is what you've got to give me

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Yeah, that would be good

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But no one was in Spain, however Alex was in New York

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Okay

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So we went down to do this Flagrant 2 podcast

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And, you know, I don't know, Flagrant 2 is a giant podcast

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But at the same time it's still like Joe Rogan Jr. Varsity

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Sure, sure, sure

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For Alex

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He can't get on Rogan at least not regularly

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Not yet, yeah

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Or not enough

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Right

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And so, you know, he can get on Kill Tony

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Sure, sure

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That's not going to move the needle enough

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No, no it won't

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So, you know, you get this publicity tour

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He goes all the way to New York presumably either to do this podcast or to do this podcast

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And

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And something else

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Maybe have a deposition or something, who knows

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But, yeah, I just, I don't know

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It's really hard for me to cover these sorts of appearances that Alex does

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Because it's like, alright, I get that this is an attempt at a joke

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Right

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And I don't think it's funny

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Right

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And I think the subject matter sucks

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Yeah

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It's probably somewhere on the bigoted spectrum

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Yeah

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And whatever

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Sure

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You know, like

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Yeah

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I oppose, I oppose this joke

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I oppose the message that's underlying this joke

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But, I don't know, like where is the line of free speech?

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It's objectionable speech to me

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But, you know, YouTube should be able to decide whether they want it on the platform or not

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But in terms of

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Yeah

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In terms of our conversation it becomes, it becomes a total mess when you're trying to

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Criticize failed or iffy attempts at humor

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Yeah, I mean, it's, it's what, we don't cover shows that are just bros talkin' all too often

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Yeah

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You know, like, bros riffin' doesn't sound interesting or really that, that like, newsworthy I suppose

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The exception is like when Alex is on Rogan

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And that's just kind of like because it's a vent

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Yeah

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Level of

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Yeah

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And, and because Alex really goes for it

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He does

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And, and, and so like, I was listening to this and I was like, well, okay, we do cover Alex when he's on Rogan

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And so like, maybe this is something that we should, you know, like, he, he is a guest on this show

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Yeah, I mean if he makes, if he, if he's got something to say then I want to hear it

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If he doesn't have anything to say then

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He doesn't have much to say

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Well

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Um, I want to play like the beginning, this is how it starts

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Uh, Alex, uh, spoiler alert, comes out wearing tinfoil around his arms like bracers

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That is not funny

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What's up everybody and welcome to Flavor 2

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I am incredibly excited, we have a major, major guest

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Huge guest

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Huge guest, uh, probably one of the biggest actresses on the planet

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Icon

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We figured, a real icon, we figured because it is, uh, Women's Empowerment Month, I believe it's Women's Empower Month

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We bring on maybe the most powerful woman in the galaxy

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Some might say I'm incredibly excited, everybody right now give it up

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I wonder who it is

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For Gal Gadot, everybody, Wonder Woman is here, Flavor 2

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We got Wonder Woman in Wonder Woman

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We have Wonder Woman

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Yeah

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So Alex comes out with a bunch of tinfoil on him and it just turns into a protracted transphobic joke

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Uh, it's, it's a load of nonsense, but it's, I get this thing where it's, imagine right before they started recording

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Alex is like, here's what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna put on a wig and some tinfoil, I'm gonna pretend to be Wonder Woman

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Like, that's an idea he had, and then these guys were like, that'll be great

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We gotta do that

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That'll be great

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And you know what, we're gonna sell it

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Yes

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Oh boy

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And Alex taking his shirt off

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It's disconcerting

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You can take that, you can take that shirt off if you want, Alex

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Yo, just go dog

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You can go for it if you want

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I see you sweating, just go, just go

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There's the one

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Take it off, take it off, take it off

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You guys wanna see this woman's beautiful body?

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Yeah

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Yeah, show them fucking heavies

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Heavies, heavies, heavies, heavies, heavies, heavies

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Hey

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Let's go, brother

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So it's moments like this that just like really highlight to me how much of like a duplicitous game everyone is playing

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Yeah

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Like, Alex is there to try to launder his extremist beliefs to a gullible audience

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And he's also trying to bring more customers into his revenue stream

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Of course

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Simultaneously, these dudes know that if you get Alex to do sensational things it leads to increased attention and traffic

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If you get him to run around without his shirt on you might end up going viral on Twitter

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You're like, that could be a meme, that could turn into something that is a long-lasting reaction gif meme or whatever

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That's better advertising than you could ever pay for

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Totally, totally

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So there's this whole game that both of them are playing that is promotional in nature

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And it's just like, okay, I guess you're trading the possibility of having these moments for willingly or unknowingly

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platforming a monster

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Pulling your audience to Alex

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Yeah, yeah

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It's like, okay, cool

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I just can't believe that people would want to listen to the same social dynamic that one would see at a fucking elementary school

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Alex might as well be eating worms

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A drunk elementary school

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Yeah, just like, eat the worms, eat the worms, eat the worms

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It's the same fucking thing

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Alex is there to be humiliated for them to exploit and then they laugh at him and he acts, I mean it's so, it's so degrading

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No, no

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I'm degraded

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Well, you're gonna eat even more degraded

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Oh no

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Because Alex was about to talk about his dick

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Oh god

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Bro, you got a nice little bulge, yo

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Dude, you got a nice pecker, bro

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I have the largest micropenis in North America

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Now, women get blown away by it

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It looks like a grub worm with ear muscles

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You've seen like, seriously, those little balloons you buy at the store get really big

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That's me

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So you're a grower

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Man, women go, they go, this is a trick dick

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And then like, this hurts

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I got a trick dick

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So it starts out small and then surprises them later on

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It's like a turtle head, it goes in

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Yeah, yeah

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It actually goes in

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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So then it comes out

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Aha

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This is not good riffing and it's unbecoming of someone in Alex's position to act like this

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Yeah, yeah

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It's just, imagine this juxtaposed with him fucking praying on air

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I

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I got a trick dick

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I mean, it's so much like, I immediately get flashbacks to like, early on doing standup

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Working with an established, clean comic headliner

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And it's me and a young female comic

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She and I are at about the same level of talent

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And then we're at the bar afterwards

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And he starts telling creepy ass fucking jokes right to her face

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Sure

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That is so fucked up and inappropriate

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Yeah

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And you're like, this is not okay

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That is what I'm hearing Alex do right now

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That creepy ass shit where he presents himself one place as being a pious, god fearing man

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And then when there's a social situation where he can fucking take advantage of his goddamn position in the hierarchy

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To fuck around with people and I hate it

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Yeah

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It really lights me up

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I think that there's some of that

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And then there's some of it too that is just wanting to have people think that you're interesting by kind of like oversharing

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Yeah

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And I think that early on in my time doing standup I kind of was susceptible to that

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And I certainly would say more stuff on stage than I would be comfortable with now

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Sure

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You know like, there's sort of an extra version of like, let it all out there man

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Yeah, I'm a truth teller

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And I think that that was partially because a youth idiocy

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And not taking myself seriously enough to know that this wasn't appropriate

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Yeah

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Alex is 47 years old

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Wow

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He's been doing this as a, he's been an investigative truth teller reporter for 27 years

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Yes

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He thinks he's fighting the literal devil

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Yeah

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He thinks that governments want to kill him

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Yep

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And he's still like, acts like I did

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Hey, you gotta laugh

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When I was an early doing comedy guy

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Look Dan, you know what, when you're so stressed out you need an outlet

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And that outlet is telling two weird bros while they mock you to your face that you've got a weird penis

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That makes perfect sense

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I guess

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I mean it should, I guess if people want to look at him as an

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Yeah

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I don't know

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The thing that I kept flashing to was these people like these hosts of Flagrant

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And I would say even Rogan probably is this way

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Or Tony Hinchcliffe

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They have an image of Alex as this

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Yeah

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The drunk guy who talks about his dick or yells about aliens

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Or like tells them some weird subsection they've never heard of

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And he's like, I'm gonna blow your mind, I'm gonna blow your mind, let me tell you

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I'm gonna tell you, I talked to the weather weapon guy

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Yeah, yeah

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That's the image that they have of him

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And that's what they think his show is

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They haven't listened to his actual show

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Probably not, no

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They don't know

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And when Alex comes on these types of shows, he's not crying about fighting the devil

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Right

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He's not like yelling all his racist shit

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He's not doing what he does on his show

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If these people actually listened to Alex's show, they would either be bored out of their mind

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Or they'd be like, wait a second, this is what Alex does?

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I'm not sure I want to be associated with this

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You know, I don't know

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Alex's years-long Trojan horse quest to get people to give their life to Jesus

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Do you think that people like these hosts would be like, oh, I want to be a part of this

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Bringing people to God

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I mean, I could see this

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I could see them all in their mind

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Because they are all these

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I mean, the names of the people that we're dealing with are all traffickers in toxic masculinity by trade

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So I could definitely see them being like, oh, you know, we just play it up on our show

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Alex just plays it up on his show

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And in real life, he's this guy

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So it's okay for us to be cool with him

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Despite not realizing all of the fucking destruction that his show does

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Just because he's a character on the show means it's okay for them to be like

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Eh, you know what, we'll have him on our show

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Where he's the real guy

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See, that's great

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And I applaud that, except the reverse

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Yeah, I was gonna say, please do not applaud that

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No, I think it's worse

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That's fucked up

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Yeah, if someone were to make that argument, I think that

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That's what I'm saying

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I'm saying these people are worse than you give them credit for

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Yes, because if the argument is that it's a character and this is the real Alex

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That we're hanging out with, broing down with about our dicks

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Like, okay, then that person that you're broing down with is a psychopath

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Yes, yes

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And they are too

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I mean, you could absolutely see them saying something like

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The crisis actor joke is funny because it's not Alex's fault

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It's people taking Alex too seriously

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Who went too far with all that Sandy Hook stuff

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Alex is an entertainer, man

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If people take it too seriously, it's not Alex's fault

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Just like when people take our stuff too seriously

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And it's like, no, we're making a joke

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Sure, I made a quote unquote joke about raping a woman

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But that was a joke, I don't know why people are taking it too fucking seriously

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It's that type of shit

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They even do, you know, touch on that a little bit

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Everybody takes me out of context

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I find that to be a pretty boring argument

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Because I've listened to hundreds and hundreds of hours of Alex's show

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I think I got a pretty good sense of what's an actual position and what's him fucking around

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And I don't take things that he's fucking around about all that seriously

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I think that argument is thin

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No, I would say it's a self-serving and delusional argument

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That helps you go to sleep at night

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Because what you're actually doing is exposing people to a fucking monster

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And you're helping make it easier for people to accept the bad arguments

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And the awful things that Alex does believe

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By presenting him in a way that's positive, that's sociable

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That is like, hey, we're having fun

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And allowing him to perpetuate things that just explicitly aren't true

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It's like if Renfield had a fucking podcast

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Like, he's putting Dracula on, man

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He's gonna push Dracula on you

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Well, I mean, if you want to use Alex's own language

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But there's just things that you allow him to perpetuate that aren't true

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So they're talking about Colbert and why Colbert isn't funny anymore

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And here's what Alex says

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They admit Charles Schumer, the Senator of New York calls him and says what should be in his bits

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No

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That's in the news

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Same thing with

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That's almost unbelievable

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Some of the funnier late night guys, you should be really funny

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You wonder, why aren't they funny now?

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They admit in the news that they get calls from Democrat spokespersons

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And Senator Schumer goes, I'd like you to talk to this guy

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He's my cousin, he's a funny guy

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And those guys know that corporately, their job and their contract is

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Pursuant to a weird New York Senator

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Can you imagine like a Senator calls up

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Oh, Andrew, I'd kind of like to see this in your piece

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You say, fuck you, man

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Yeah

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Can you imagine like, I'm out here like, okay, Senator Schumer says I'm supposed to say this now

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Here's Schumer's joke

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So this old man can sit there and watch and go, I control that young man

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This is entirely about Jimmy Kimmel discussing on air how he'd spoken with Chuck Schumer about the Affordable Care Act

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Which you might recall was a super important thing to Jimmy because his son lives with a congenital heart defect

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So he was discussing on air, this piece that he did

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About how the coverage of pre-existing conditions really matters in a very concrete way

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Yes

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Kimmel was taking issue with the Graham-Cassidy bill

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Which sought to get rid of some of the provisions of the ACA

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And in preparation he got some assistance from Chuck Schumer's office about the bill's details

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Alex has taken that kernel from 2017 and embellished it now

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To the point where he's telling these dudes that Schumer is basically the booker and head writer for all late night shows

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This isn't joking around and it's not even in the territory of embellishment for effect

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This is just a lie that Alex is specifically deploying to convince these people's audience

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That all non-crazy entertainment is just secret globalist programming

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And they're reacting to it with like, no way, that's almost unbelievable

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And you're like, why wouldn't you stop for one second and go, that is unbelievable

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No

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I mean Alex even gave you an example for you to be like, I know people in comedy

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Of course they too would say, fuck you Chuck Schumer, you're not funny

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And the hosts of this show, the two dudes who are the main hosts of it

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One of them used to be on MTV's Guy Code and the other one was on Wild and Out

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So it's like, they're comedians, people who have worked, they have done stuff

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You know people in the industry

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All of whom would do, regardless of whatever political affiliation you have

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Comedians are very very aggressive about you shutting the fuck up

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And they probably have some exposure to some of the things that Alex is being completely duplicitous about

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And it's just not worth it to have an actual conversation about it, I don't think

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If you've been on the Guy Code or Wild and Out or that kind of stuff

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There's no way you haven't interacted with people who literally work at SNL or Colbert or the like

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Like, that's, they're there, they're everywhere, yeah, I mean, that's bananas

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And that means you know Chuck Schumer

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Yeah, well, that means they're taking orders from Chuck Schumer

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Yeah, so I found largely listening to this to be, like I have already said, intolerable

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I found it so boring, just ha ha ha

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That's the kind of noise, just put that for two and a half hours

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Look at us being bros

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Yeah, so I turned it off after about an hour

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But there was one really important thing that came up a couple times in the first hour

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And this is Alex trying to formulate a way to justify some of his bigotries

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And I found this really really interesting

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Here we go

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Because all the Renaissance is, it's not a utopia, it's saying all the old fucking weird shit, we throw it out

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All the old weird shit's like, oh rainbow flags, oh look, black people

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It's all exploiting gay people and black people

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There's nothing to do with rainbow flags and gay people

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They're just literally sitting there putting that out

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We need a total Renaissance to overthrow the entire thing and empower everybody

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Well you're saying, you're not saying let's get rid of rainbow flags and black people

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That's what it sounded like

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You're saying they're mascotting the rainbow flags and the black people

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No, yeah, get rid of the front

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Imagine if I walked in here and I said, I really like black people

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Do what I say, I like black people

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You're a fucking opportunist

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I see what you're saying, I see what you're saying

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But this is interesting

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No, no, I'm saying don't get rid of rainbow flags and black people

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No, get rid of the people that are using rainbow flags and black people

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I'm just saying stop listening to them

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Like when some defense contractor has a rainbow flag you're like, dude, that's not you

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You're killing people but you're using this rainbow flag so we think you're

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That's protection

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I've listened to countless hours of Alex's show and I honestly don't think that that's an idea that I've ever heard him articulate like that

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I really haven't either

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I think it's intentional

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This is a very attractive point and honestly I don't actually disagree that much with how he's framing it

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No, I think he's, well, I mean you see Nancy Pelosi and the like in a fucking, yeah, yeah

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I see, you know, businesses do pay lip service to communities in meaningless ways in order to garner goodwill

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While their actions might not be as supportive as those words may imply

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Rainbow flags and donations to Trump do not go together and yet somehow

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I think that happens a lot and it's a part of the shallowness of the nature of corporations

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We treat corporations like people and all of a sudden they have a brand and a persona to cultivate

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And part of that is trite social media gestures

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And I think a lot of people see through that

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By framing Alex's opposition to things like black people and rainbow flags this way

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Alex is trying to hook the audience by appealing to something that they could easily believe

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This could possibly be the belief that Alex has that everyone says is racist

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You know all those times Alex gets called a racist?

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It's gotta be because people are misrepresenting his stance against corporate use of Black Lives Matter and rainbow flags

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That's gotta be it, he's not actually a racist

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That's what Alex wants the audience to think because the reality is that Alex is a gigantic racist

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And if the audience knows that going in, they won't ever make it to the Infowars store

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Trust me, the difference in how Alex responds to a murder when the victim is black or when the victim is white

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Has nothing to do with corporate signaling

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His behavior is explicitly racist, it's homophobic, it's transphobic

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He is those things and he's being allowed to launder this in a way that's appealing to not only the hosts but the audience

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And gives them a way to be like, oh yeah everyone says Alex is racist

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He doesn't like this corporate thing where you put a rainbow flag up during Pride Month when you're a bigot

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Or you're doing horrible things

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It's a valid criticism that's trying to be used as a shield for bigotry

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Right, but I mean that's the feedback loop

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That's the feedback loop of conspiracy theorists and shitty politicians

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Is that when the system is so corrupt and so transparent bullshit

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It is easy for you to take a pot shot like this and get people towards more conspiratory laden bullshit

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Because obviously Nancy Pelosi is fucking lying to you

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That's not hard to jump to

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It's a miniature version of how Alex's opposition to the Iraq war can trick you into thinking that he is an ally

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Or ideologically on the same page

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Right, and then corrupt and shallow assholes use that conspiracy theory to get elected

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When they corrupt the government and make it less functional than it was before

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Then your conspiracy theories get even stronger because the government is so obviously corrupt

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And it creates that feedback loop of destruction

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If it were possible, I mean I've said this so many times

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But the greatest weapon that the Democrats have against the Republican party

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Is just the governing effectively and they cannot do that

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They simply cannot

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True

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And that's why we get into these situations

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I think that even if the Democrats wanted to or had a unified will to govern well

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I don't think it's possible

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No, that's probably true

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It's probably too late now

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It's probably way too late now

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Everyone can just do their best

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Man, they really had a shot

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They really had a shot 2008 to 2010

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If they had just got their shit together

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Man, we would have avoided so much

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We would have had a right wing terrorism problem

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Yeah, that's true

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We would have had an extreme much faster

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Yeah, it wasn't going to stop

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Yeah, so I just, I grow weary of these laundering attempts of Alex

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And I just, I don't think people don't have the right to do it

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Sure

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I don't think people are, you know, should be banned

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I don't know, I mean it's the platform's choice

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They can do whatever the fuck they want

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Sure

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I don't think that, you know, I don't think they should be arrested or anything for this

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But I wish people would consider a little bit more what they're doing

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I wish that, like, if these guys want to have Alex Jones on their show

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I would like them to ask about the devil

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I would like them to ask about, like, valid criticisms about him

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As opposed to allowing him to present his very, very clear racism as opposition to corporate signaling

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Right

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I would like it if they allow, you know, this is a rare opportunity

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Where you have Alex there, you could ask him digging questions

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And instead just allow him to poach your audience

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I mean, there's really only, at this point the bar is so low

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So there's only two things that happen if you have Alex Jones on

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It's obviously you're right

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You have either the option to fucking eviscerate him

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And then you will not be on his level, you will be over the bar

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Or you do this, in which case you are under the bar right next to Alex

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I have no sympathy for people

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You've turned flagrant 2 into Infowars in my mind

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More or less

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The end

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Like, I have no interest in you as people

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You should fucking stop

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And if you don't get that and if you don't make a change towards that

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Then fuck off forever

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You're just Infowars

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Yeah, I think we have probably a very unique perspective

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And I don't mean unique in, like, necessarily an overly positive way

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But a perspective that other people don't have because we focus so much on Alex Jones

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Sure

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And that is that, like, I think that we have enough of an awareness of what this dude does

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And what he's up to, his history, the way he lies, the positions that he actually has

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That people who would choose to associate with him

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It's your right to

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Sure

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But we know that you are him

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Yeah, yeah

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I don't give a fuck about Joe Rogan or Tim Dillon or these fucks or any of these people

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You are next to Alex Jones forever

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You're at the rally, if you're at a rally surrounded by Nazis

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I get maybe you feel like you're not

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But if you stay at that rally, guess who's a Nazi now

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You have Alex on a second time

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Exactly

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I mean, I guess it probably boosts numbers

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It probably helps with traffic

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And these guys have a bunch of ads on their show

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Hey

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Hope their sponsors don't dislike Alex being on

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It's okay if you destroy the world if your listeners go up

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It's fine

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It's the trade-off

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I just don't understand being this irresponsible with presentation

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Yeah

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That's really what it comes down to

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It really comes down to like a part of you just breaks down and you just go like

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Do you guys just not care?

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Like is that really it? You just don't give a shit?

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I mean it feels like that's got to be the most simple explanation

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Yeah, you don't care about your show

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You don't care about the people who listen

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And you don't care about what happens because of it

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That's what you're telling me when you have Alex Jones on

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Right, I mean like because here we have a completely dissonant presentation

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A week ago on his show, Alex is talking about how we're all dead

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Yes he was

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Yes he was

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He's talking about how the globalists are going to kill everybody

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Yeah

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And you know like I gotta stand and fight against these

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I promise you I will take everything in my ability and fake crying and shit

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And within the week he's in New York wearing a wig

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Hey my penis is like a turtle

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It's great, great

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What are you doing?

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What are any of us doing?

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Yeah

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Brutal

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And then Alex comes back and tries to present McAfee's death as a murder

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Which can only serve to incite his audience

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Yeah just unreal

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This is just nonsensical

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It's just so fucked up

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It's so fucked up how easy it is to jangle the keys of like

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Hey I'm a fucking performer in front of these idiots

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And then they'll just be like hey let's talk about dicks for two hours

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Fuck off

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And again maybe I don't know I watched most of the first one

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And it was not in depth or interesting

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Yeah

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I watched the first hour of this one before I turned it off

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And the only thing I found interesting really was this presentation of Alex's racism

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As being opposed to corporate artifice

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Yeah

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And I don't know I guess I could have listened to the rest of it

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Meh

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Yeah I mean again if it weren't so reasonable to assume that they are corrupt lying pieces of shit

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I think it would be harder to launder your racism behind

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See look at those corrupt lying pieces of shit

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I would like it if this was actually a long game which it's not

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But they were trying to lull Alex into a false sense of security

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Yeah you missed the last half hour where they just fucking nailed him

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Nailed him to a wall

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I doubt it

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Anyway

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Anyway

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I'm somewhat excited to see how Alex tries to incorporate that cue from John McAfee's Instagram

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So we'll check in on that on Monday I believe

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Yeah

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But yeah until then Jordan we have a website

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We do have a website it's knowledgefight.com

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Yep we're also on Twitter

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We are on Twitter it's at knowledgefight.com go to bed Jordan

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Yep we're also on Facebook

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We are on Facebook if you're not on the show

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If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people do God's work

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Yep we'll be back but until then I'm Neo I'm Leo I'm DZXClark I'm Daryl Rundis

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And now here comes the sex robots

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Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding

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Hello Alex I'm a first time caller I'm a huge fan I love your work

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I love you