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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying, we are the bad guys.

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Thank you.

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It's time to pray.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes.

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Like to sit around, drink novelty beverages,

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are.

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Mr. Freezin'.

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Mr. Holmes.

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Mr. Freezin'.

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Mr. Holmes.

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What's your bright spot today?

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My bright spot today is granola, baby.

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Ooh, what's that say?

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Lure Crunch?

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This is Love Crunch.

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Love Crunch.

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Founded at the store.

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This is espresso vanilla cream.

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Granola.

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Oh my God.

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What do you have to have to name your business Love Crunch?

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Jordan, this is so good.

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It's inspired by the Italian affogato,

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which is made with espresso and ice cream.

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Oh, okay.

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It's very good.

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It's nice.

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I'm trying to, I had like this period,

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I think I talked about it in some previous bright spots,

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where I was going for these bizarre ass cereals,

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you know, like the fruity pebbles with marshmallows.

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Oh yes.

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We, the Dunkin' Donuts.

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The coffee Dunkin' Donuts ones.

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That's gonna happen, yeah.

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And I'm trying to get back onto a more like,

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all right, I've indulged my inner child a little bit here.

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Sure, sure.

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And even this, I'll admit, this is, I mean,

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it's an espresso vanilla cream situation.

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So it's not like it's the hardest core granola,

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but I'm working in that direction.

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I feel like my breakfast could be better served.

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I'm glad it's based on an Italian something

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as opposed to affogato.

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Cause it sounds a little bit like a song

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a hair metal band would have released in the eighties.

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You know, like, love crunch, love, love crunch.

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Isn't that Nazareth, love hurts?

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Could be, could be, something along those lines.

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So what's your bright spot?

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Oh, my bright spot, Dan.

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I'm assuming some people have found out by now.

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We were in the New York Times.

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How fun is that?

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That's nice.

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Super bizarre.

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That's fun.

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If I hadn't like been aware that this was coming,

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I would be like, this is, I can't, I.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's very bizarre.

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No, this is.

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Very bizarre, thank you to.

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It's fun, it's fun, it's silly, all right.

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So Jordan, today we have an interesting episode to go over.

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We're going to be talking about April 16th, 2021.

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Blackjack.

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Ah, shit.

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This is Friday's episode of Alex's show.

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Okay.

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And you know, it's not, it's not great.

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It's not, it may not be the most groundbreaking of episodes.

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Sure, sure.

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But there are a couple of things that happened

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that are breathtaking.

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Okay.

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That are amazing.

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All right.

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And a good teachable moment.

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So. Okay, good.

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We'll get down to business on that here in a second.

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But before we do, let's take a little moment

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to say thank you to some folks who have signed up

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and are supporting the show.

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Oh, that's great.

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So first, the Reverend Dr. Sorrow.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much, RDS.

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Thank you.

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Next, 1776 was a false flag.

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The British are the globalists.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thought-provoking.

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I think Alex might agree with half of that.

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I think he might have said that.

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Yeah.

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Borderline, yeah.

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Then a couple of technocrat shout-outs

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to throw out William V.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat and Thomas C. Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey, mate.

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That's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?

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Let's just get down to business.

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We ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why are you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large.

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I declare info war on you.

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Thank you, Willie, and thank you, Tomas.

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Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.

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So Jordan, I had to cut the wonk shout-outs a little bit short

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on this episode because we have another little bit of business

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that we have to get to.

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It's very important.

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Of course.

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And that is that tomorrow, Tuesday, is 4-20.

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Right.

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And that means that it is the official end

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of the year of the Seltzer.

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That's true.

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It is the official end of the year of the Seltzer.

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Where did we wind up?

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You got 3-50, right?

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Yeah, right around 3-50.

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That's great.

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For people who maybe have found the podcast more recently,

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last year, around 4-20.

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You've got lore to catch up on.

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I decided that I was going to drink 500 Seltzers in that year.

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It was kind of something just to put a smile on our face

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because it seemed like there was going to be this period where

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there was the COVID.

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I didn't think it was going to go as long as it did.

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I did not either.

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I just kind of thought like, yeah,

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this will be a way to kill some time.

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I'll drink a bunch of La Croix and all

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these weird flavors of things.

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And look, a year's too long for a novelty goof.

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It was very much an emotional rollercoaster ride

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because it started off as a goof.

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Then a few weeks later...

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It started off as a goof with a lot of energy behind it.

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That's true.

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No, well, a few weeks later, what I'm saying

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is you got into it.

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And all of a sudden, it started being a lot of Seltzers

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just popping up all over the place.

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And then, what was it?

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Probably about six months ago.

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I got a hot tip on a Seltzer.

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We got to go to the south side to find it.

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It was about six months ago that your enthusiasm

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dropped down, and then there was a little bounce back.

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It was like the stock market.

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It dropped farther, there's a little bounce back,

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and then it's gone.

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Well, I can say that a big part of it

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is the difficulties involved with COVID.

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And then some personal life stuff kind of

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disenchanted me a lot over a period of months.

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And look, a lot of Seltzers are not very different.

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Yeah, I think you could make it to a year and 500

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if you were on a Japanese game show where

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you had to live in a place where there's nothing

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but Seltzers for a year.

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If someone brought me all of the Seltzers,

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and I was like, sip it, and they're like, oh, 50.

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Who gives a shit?

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Like, in those circumstances, I definitely

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could have tried 50.

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But after you try so many, it's like, I don't know.

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This is fine.

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It sucks, but it's not that bad.

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It's not great.

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You really lose the enthusiasm to hunt

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down new Seltzers.

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And once you've already had everything

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that's at every store within a couple miles of your house,

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and you can't find anything else on Amazon,

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it just becomes a real stu-

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I mean, it was a stupid idea from the beginning.

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No, but I mean, you know, all of our ideas

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are somewhat stupid.

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Yeah, and I'm glad I tried.

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I learned a few things.

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One is the wide, wide world of these Seltzers.

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There's so many.

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And the ones that are more tea-like are better, I think.

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I enjoy them more.

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They have more depth of flavor.

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And so, hooray.

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And in honor of ending the Year of the Seltzer,

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I'm ending it with my novelty beverage for today,

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which is a listener, Amani, sent some Sunwink

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Sparkle Herbal Tonics.

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And I've tried the one that is, I believe, turmeric-related.

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And that one was all right.

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It's got a little spice to it.

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Is it turmeric or turmeric?

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I think it's pronounced turmeric,

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but there is an R in there.

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That infuriates me.

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Yeah, it might be a silent R.

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We can continue.

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So this is Sunwink Lemon Rose Uplift.

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I feel like now is a good time for some uplifting.

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No, Lemon Rose, taking a sip.

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I noticed you playing around with that bottle

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before the show.

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And normally, you have a bit of an energy drink going on there.

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And how did you do?

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It was really good.

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It was really good?

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Yeah.

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Nice.

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Yeah, that's very tea-like.

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It's reminiscent of those ones that had flour.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, I guess rose is the flour.

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Well, that would make sense.

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Yeah, good.

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Those were real good.

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Yeah.

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So thank you, Imani.

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And thank you, everybody who has enjoyed

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the year of the seltzer.

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I don't know if I'm going to do a year of anything else

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ever again.

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I doubt it.

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I learned a valuable lesson.

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There's definitely that.

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It's humiliating.

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Think of it.

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You got to round 350 seltzers.

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If you had set your goal for 300 seltzers,

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you wouldn't have made 350.

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500 was such an attractive number, though.

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It's a nice round number.

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Yeah, I mean, look, I achieved something.

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Indeed.

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Maybe?

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Probably.

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Let the viewer decide.

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Sure.

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Anyway, Jordan, today, April 16th.

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Indeed.

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Ides of March.

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I'm still writing June on my checks.

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So here we go.

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We're going to start off with Alex

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talking about some headlines.

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And then getting into something that is very bad news for us,

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as you know, we are the chat guys.

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Now, they denied all of this in mainline publications

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until a few years ago.

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And now they run the same headline every week.

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For the first time, animal human clones have been made.

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That's always, it's in the test tube, it's embryonic.

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And that's just a condition, condition, condition,

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condition.

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The CIA was quoted in the Washington Post back in 1999

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that, oh, we're funding the body modification and tattoo

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and earring movement.

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Doesn't mean it's bad or good or anything.

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All the things you said, all the things you said.

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To get you ready for implantable chips.

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I mean, this is all actually in different publications.

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They admit all of this.

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Yep, the CIA encouraged everyone to get earrings and tattoos.

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It's really weird for the CIA to finally start admitting stuff

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and choose the stuff that I guess

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would take them down the most.

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Yeah.

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But, you know, what are you going to do?

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Yeah, I don't know about this.

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Also, so the latest news in the animal human hybrid front

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is that there was an article published in the journal Cell,

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where researchers injected human stem cells into monkey embryos,

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which then they observed growing.

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Three of the embryos survived up to 19 days,

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but they didn't create clones or anything like Alex is saying.

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This is a field of study, but it's not

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what Alex is describing.

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And the scientific community is far

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from reaching a consensus on it.

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There are tons of debates that go on about the ethics

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or even the need for such research.

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And you can find people who have informed opinions on both sides.

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Alex is not one of them.

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Yeah, but, you know, once I saw that you could transfer

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the bioluminescence trait to another creature,

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I was like, well, get rid of all other research.

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Until I can glow in the dark, all science should stop.

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Until everything.

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Until everything can glow in the dark.

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My buddy Dr. Gums used to get furious with me,

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because I would constantly demand

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for him to explain to me why we can't photosynthesize.

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Like, why can't we get a human that has photosynthesis?

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I would like to know that.

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I feel like we should.

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I really think he had a compelling, full answer,

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and I was too high to remember what it was.

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Well, of course.

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I don't remember.

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Considering you've heard it many times, too.

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Yeah.

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So this story, you know, the whole thing

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about the human-animal hybrids and stuff,

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this is something that people like to take as an example

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of actually, Alex, he's right all along, man.

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But the important thing to remember is that his version

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of this research, it doesn't match what actually exists.

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The stories that he tells are different than reality.

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Just remember, we were talking about fish-human hybrids

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in tanks with sad human eyes.

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Exactly.

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That's the kind of stuff that Alex talks about.

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And he claims that he's seen them.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He's pinned to the tanks.

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We're not talking about injecting embryos.

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We're talking about full-grown fish men wandering

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around our seas.

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Yeah.

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It's very attractive for people to take headlines and then

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sort of out-of-context snippets of things Alex said,

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and he's like, yeah, he's been right all along.

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Showed you.

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It's not really accurate.

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It's a fun game, though, and I applaud people for playing it.

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So if you want to be someone who plays this game that Alex

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is right about everything, I have bad news.

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We will all be dead soon.

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Oh, no.

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There is a scientific global dictatorship

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that is breaking away from humanity,

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and that as it breaks away, it extracts

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all the resources of the old civilization,

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poisons us, dumbs us down, divides us, and conquers us,

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puts us back into the jungle, the urban jungle,

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and then wipes us out.

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We've got fun and games.

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And by the time that they finally wiped everybody out,

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which is coming very soon, in a cascade of crises

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they orchestrate but pose as the saviors, those of us

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that haven't joined them, it'll be very hard pressed for us

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to survive without joining them.

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And those of us that haven't joined them

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will still only survive because the global has killed everybody.

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So we're not on their side, but if you're

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able to make the right moves and be prepared,

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you might be able to survive and not join them.

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But I think God isn't going to like that.

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God doesn't like cowards, so I think it's just surviving.

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We have to stop this thing from happening.

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This is very weird.

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Well, I mean, it seems strange for him

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to say that God wouldn't like that,

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considering the most popular Christian book

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series ever written was about the small number of survivors

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who made it through the evil apocalypse.

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Yeah, that was globalist shit, though, man.

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OK, well, that's fair.

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Kirk Cameron's a globalist.

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My bad.

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My bad.

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Nope, I fucked it up.

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Yeah, it's an interesting version

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of Alex's fear narratives.

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It's like, OK, so a kill-off event is about to happen very

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soon.

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Naturally.

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Because the globalists are taking over

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and the blah, blah, blah.

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Any moment now.

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So it's coming up almost immediately,

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and you are probably going to die.

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But if you make the right moves, there's

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a way that you can survive.

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Now, some of the right moves that are the wrong moves

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are joining with the globalists.

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Of course.

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That's bad.

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But you could survive if you did that.

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Even though, why would you, since everybody you've ever

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known and cared for is dead?

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I don't know.

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Fair enough.

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But you cannot join the globalists and still

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survive if you get really lucky and do all the right moves,

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but God will be mad.

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But then you're going to hell.

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God's going to be mad.

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So you can die in the apocalypse,

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or you can survive it for a little while with no one

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you've ever met.

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But either way, you're going to hell.

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But I guess that this implies that there

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is a fourth, fifth option, and that

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is fighting to stop this.

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Somehow stopping it, yeah.

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But it doesn't matter.

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The globalists have a plan B. Alex

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has already explained that.

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Yeah, it doesn't seem to be a good fight at this point.

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No, this is really dumb.

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So I think that there are jobs in the world that have

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more staying power for people.

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Careers.

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Sure, if you're in a career that takes a long time to master,

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let's say, maybe there's a lower turnover

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than some unskilled professions maybe

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have higher turnover rates.

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Comedian, high turnover rate.

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Quite.

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Very high turnover rate.

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Although it should be higher.

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Much, much higher.

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What do you think about the high ranking globalists?

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What's their turnover rate?

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Yeah, what do you think about that?

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Oh my god.

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It has to be, here's what I think.

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I think it's got to be like the Politburo level of like.

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It's got to be zero.

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Backstabbing, no, no, no.

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Backstabbing murder all the time.

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You're wrong.

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And I can tell you the globalists have major turnover

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with their higher level people.

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Because they really understand, even once they have all

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the money and the power, that it's empty.

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And if they haven't totally turned their souls over.

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They get to keep all the money and power?

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They then turn against it.

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But then those people don't have a voice.

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They get shut down or they get killed.

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Oh, OK.

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That's convenient.

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So the globalists and the high ranking levels,

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they constantly have crises.

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Right, they have crises of conscience

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and realize, nah, fuck this noise.

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Alex is right.

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So they quit, but then they get killed.

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So what are you going to do?

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Hey, it's as everybody knows from watching our government

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function, obviously the people who run the world

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have consciences that they've been to at all times.

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I don't know if I can think of any examples of anybody

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that Alex has ever discussed who was a high ranking globalist,

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who turned on the globalists, and then got killed.

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Although, again, it's a fun story.

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It is a fun story.

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And it does explain why there aren't

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defectors of the globalists.

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Sure, sure, they're dead.

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Except for, I guess, Leo Zagami, which maybe he should be dead.

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Right.

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If this makes sense.

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I don't know, Mike Lindell got rich and powerful.

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So he's probably turned against the globalists.

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I bet he was a high ranking globalist for a while.

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He had to have been, right?

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I don't know.

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Otherwise you can't get money and power.

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His point is you can only get money and power

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if you join with the globalists.

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Or I guess if you sell supplements.

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Or pillows.

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Yeah.

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I don't think Mike Lindell's with the globalists.

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I doubt it.

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No.

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No.

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Also, the topic of Alex's employee

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who got arrested at the Capitol does come back up a little bit.

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OK.

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My pillow storyline is not brought back up.

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No longer brought up.

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It might still be there, but it's not front and center.

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So here's the thing.

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These globalists who have high turnover rates

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and then end up having to kill the former employees,

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they're only going to kill you if certain conditions are met.

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That's nice.

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If you've ever worked for the New World Order

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and never signed the contracts with them

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and ever actually run their operations,

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then they will kill you if you sidestep them

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or don't follow their orders or ever try to leave them.

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But if you've never sold out to them, it's metaphysical rules.

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They'll just try to get other people to kill you,

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but they won't give the order themselves.

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Or they will try to kill your name or discredit you

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or put you in prison.

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But they don't often kill you unless you've

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been involved with them and made some deal with them

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at some level.

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And that's why I've never made any deals with these guys.

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That's a protective instinct on his part.

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I.

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Yep.

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So yeah, you've got to make deals

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or else there's going to be some kind

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of an infringing of metaphysical rules that sound really dumb.

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I have a lot of problems with this.

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Yeah.

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If the metaphysical rules that govern the universe

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are so dumb that you can ethically sidestep

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murder by convincing somebody else to kill somebody,

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and then you have a totally clean slate,

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I don't think that these rules are good.

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I think that they're ungrounded.

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Give me a second.

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Are you telling me that Mark Richards

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is innocent of all crimes according

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to the metaphysical rules of the universe?

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I think there might be a flaw in this metaphysical rule.

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You bet.

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Yeah, I think there could be.

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Yep.

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I don't know what I feel about this other than any time

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he brings up these metaphysical rule ideas, I just,

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I want to know more.

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I want him to actually get into the ethical underpinnings

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of this and really break down what must be

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true within this ethical system.

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Oh no, if he were capable, the one thing

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that I want from him is a full accounting

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of his metaphysics beliefs.

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It's just brought out whenever things are convenient.

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Yeah, I want a book of him like codify,

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I want Alex Jones' version of the Bible.

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That's what I want.

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I don't.

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Oh wow, that's fair.

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I definitely don't.

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That's fair.

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That's fair.

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All caps.

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So Alex has all these ideas about how

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the news about human-animal hybrids and stuff,

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it's not what they're saying.

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Of course not.

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It's not that there were human stem cells and embryos.

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No, fish people.

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No, no, no, no.

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Fish people in the oceans.

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Technology is 50 years ahead of where it actually

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is, all this stuff.

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And you know what?

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You know who thinks they know what's up but don't?

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The globalists?

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Fucking military intelligence.

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Oh, those idiots.

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People talk about army intelligence

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or the military intelligence.

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They don't know any of this.

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That's an oxymoron, am I right?

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This cute stuff at the highest level

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is military intelligence.

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That's totally compartmentalized to archaic weapons.

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Atomic weapons are 120 years old.

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They had all the equations 120 plus years ago.

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That's all tinker toy stuff.

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That's all that's being phased out.

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They're getting rid of the human military.

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By 2030, there really won't be very many humans

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left in the military.

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And they have all these Hollywood movies

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about super soldiers, these really cool bad ass guys.

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And you know, like the new movie, Nobody.

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You know, he's so tough.

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None of that exists.

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It's all gone.

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It's all over.

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It's all robots.

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It's all clones.

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It's all robots and clones in the future.

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It's all robots and clones in the future.

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Fun.

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All right.

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So I guess you saw Bob Oden, Kirk, and nobody.

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Yeah.

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So that's nice.

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It's a good movie.

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I bet it is.

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It's a good movie.

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I think Bob Oden, Kirk has a lot of range that's been unexplored.

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And I'm excited for him.

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He's incredibly great.

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I think, you know, it's kind of an interesting dilemma.

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Because you do see the possibility of a future

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where a lot of warfare is done by way of robots.

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Sure, of course.

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You know, drones certainly are a big problem.

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Yeah, we're already there to a smaller extent.

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But if things escalate towards the point

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where actual troops are robots, then eventually you're

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going to get to a point where a negotiation between countries

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that is robots fighting robots is really

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just a financial thing.

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It's like, I'm destroying more of your property,

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which is robots.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, it's.

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And then it almost has a potential to be like, well,

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we could negotiate through this easier than fighting.

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So I don't know.

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I haven't fully thought it through.

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But it's an interesting thing.

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It almost seems like it would lead to a vast reduction

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in war.

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Well, I mean, I think there have been

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a lot of really interesting, because that's something

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that I've read about.

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That's one of those things that futurists

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have been describing since Kurt Vonnegut,

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like that kind of stuff.

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And there's a lot of people who are like,

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war doesn't mean anything if there aren't people dying.

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So you can't really do it.

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You know, it would be like a video game at that point.

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It's just like, are you better at video games?

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I have 100 more robots than you, so mathematically I

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win before we even fight.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I guess it doesn't relate to robot drones and stuff

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like bombing apartment buildings or something.

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Exactly.

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It doesn't relate to that, my thought.

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There's still a devastating human toll

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associated with that.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know about the clones part.

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What would clones be doing in this scenario?

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I don't know.

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Have you seen the prequels, the Star Wars prequels?

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I mean, yeah, but ultimately clones are not as good in war.

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You know, if you're going to build.

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Seems like a massive investment if you're

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going to use them for warfare.

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No, it's like, look, but here's the thing.

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If you're building robots, you know,

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we're not thinking about AT-ATs, because those are stupid.

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They're giant lumbering moron machines.

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I have bad news.

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I am thinking about AT-ATs.

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Small, small, quick mobility, all of these things.

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Human beings don't stand a chance against those.

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Those terrifying things you see videos of every now and again.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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So Alex has some complaints about the pope.

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Sure.

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Pope Francis, those full communists

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are sharing prosperity is not communism,

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but pure Christianity.

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But they're going to direct how you share.

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And of course, all the big bankers pay no tax,

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but they'll lecture you all day.

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No idea what the bankers have to do with the pope's opinions.

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I mean, I guess they don't pay taxes at the Vatican either.

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Also, I have great news for Alex.

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What's that?

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The pope was arrested a year ago.

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He was.

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According to Steve Pajetnik.

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He's been gone for a while.

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This is the fake pope that Alex is complaining about now.

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Don't worry about what this pope is saying.

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This is a puppet.

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Francis is behind jail bars.

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Naturally.

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So Alex gets to talk in here a little bit

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about the old COVID vaccines.

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Sure.

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And I think he says something that I

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find flagrantly irresponsible.

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You've got all these countries that

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have stopped the Pfizer shot, all these companies that

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have stopped the AstraZeneca, all these ones that

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have stopped J&J. You've got all these deaths, not one death.

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They'll go, one woman died.

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You actually go look at the reporting system.

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It's like 3,000 here, 2,000 there, 5,000 there.

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They estimate between 1 in 10 and 1 in 100.

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They're not sure.

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It varies.

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Country to country are actually reporting the deaths as COVID.

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But it is COVID vaccine killing them.

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This is a gigantic unsupported claim that Alex is making.

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If he has some kind of evidence that the COVID vaccines are

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responsible for a high number of deaths

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that are being called COVID-19 deaths,

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then he can't just assert it and wave

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his hand to some vague unspecified statistics that

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varies from country to country.

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He knows that he can't back this claim up,

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which is why even what he's saying

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is a meaningless nonsense assertion.

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The difference between 1 in 10 and 1 in 100 is huge.

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That's an irresponsible spectrum to be pointing to.

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It might be a little bit.

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Anyway, I'm going to need to see the sources on this.

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And until I do, I'm going to go out on a limb

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and assume it's his dumb imagination, as usual.

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It's either 10% or 1,000% more.

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No idea which.

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Could be anything, honestly.

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So on our last episode, we got a meeting

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of the minds between Alex and fresh, hot on the scene

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comedian Norm Paddis, lawyer.

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He's finally breaking out of this law game

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to pursue his real passion of stand-up comedy.

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He's not even going to be able to be the funniest lawyer,

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because every comedy scene already has that.

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We've already got a funniest lawyer in Chicago, at least.

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So not to be outdone by the shit-headery of Norm

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coming on, Alex's other lawyer buddy, Barnes,

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is going to be on this episode.

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Oh, yeah.

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You can't have Paddis on without Barnes being like,

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you got to book me soon.

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Yeah, so he's got to come on.

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And this is where Alex teases that they're

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going to talk about how the Chauvin trial is nonsense.

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No.

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Coming up today, Robert Barnes is

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going to be looking at the insane Chauvin trial

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up in Minnesota.

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And when he thinks that's going to end, and no doubt,

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every major city is going to be lit up like a Christmas tree.

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And they're not the type you put cookies and milk out

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for Santa for.

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It's going to be lit up with fire.

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And why are the communists doing this?

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It's part of the takeover of the police.

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They're not getting rid of the police.

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They are bullying them using any bad event that happens.

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Oh, my god, we've had three days of riots.

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And a guy, an armed robbery suspect for robbing a woman,

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waving guns around everywhere, is then attacking the police.

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And in the melee, the cop pulls the wrong weapon

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and shoots him.

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What do you think happens when you go into riots

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and high-speed car chases?

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But now, you see, we've got to have more riots for that trial.

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We've got to have more.

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It just goes on and on.

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But if you're a good globalist police department,

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if you do everything the New World Order says

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and arrest their political enemies,

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become commissars under strong cities initiative

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that Obama launched, directly directed by the UN,

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well, then you're in like Flynn.

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So that's coming up.

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Separately, ladies and gentlemen, where is it?

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Here it is.

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This is your last three-day chance

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to get the really highest quality liquid multivitamin

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mineral system with amino acids as well.

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There's going to be riots and fires all over the city.

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Got it.

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Add pivot.

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Yep.

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Fun.

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You know, you work people up about, hey,

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this ain't the fun Christmas tree with cookies and milk.

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And separately, let me get these vitamins.

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Hey, listen, don't turn around, Dan.

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Der Kommisar is in town.

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Uh-oh.

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Yeah, we're in trouble.

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So Alex has a story that he hits on a number of times

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throughout the show, and that is that Maxine Waters apparently

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told Jim Jordan to shut his mouth

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seated in the chambers.

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It's a very un-congressional language.

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I would have preferred she beat the shit out of him

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with a cane, because we've got one.

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There is a precedent to that happening, I guess.

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OK, I think there's an even, look, we've got one.

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You get to beat an anti-abolitionist

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to borderline to death in Congress.

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That's the rule.

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I think Alex might have the wrong angle on this.

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Uh-oh.

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Let me do this.

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I want to get into this Jim Jordan thing,

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and Maxine Waters telling him shut up.

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In fact, let's go to the end first.

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Let's go to her telling him to shut up.

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And imagine if a white guy was telling a black lady shut up.

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That's like half of Alex's show.

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Yeah, I was going to say, you are always

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telling black women to shut up.

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It's the most important thing to you.

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Yeah, any time there's some kind of social justice-related

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activism, it tells people to shut up.

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Just shut up, yeah, yeah, just shut up.

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Can you imagine if there was some sort of football

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player who was blackballed from the league for speaking out

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very obvious truths that seem so obvious that no one should

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be even borderline punished for them?

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Imagine if a white guy told that guy to shut up.

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People would be furious.

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We're going to get some flagrantly racist stuff

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about Kaepernick a little bit later.

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Of course we are.

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Why wouldn't we?

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Why wouldn't we?

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It's funny you should bring him up as an example.

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While we're here.

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So back to COVID matters.

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Here's Alex saying some dumb shit.

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And even a year ago, they admitted 94% of COVID deaths

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were something else.

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It's the same thing in England.

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It's the same scam everywhere, because it was never

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really COVID, folks.

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It was pneumonia or the flu.

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So in 6%, it was an actual virus.

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In 94%, it was heart attack or cancer.

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But the hospitals coded as COVID to get the $53,000.

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So this is just Alex misrepresenting

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how there was a figure that came out where it was like 6%

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of COVID-19 deaths didn't involve a person who

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had an underlying condition that might

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have contributed to the death.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Considering that things like obesity or smoking

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could be underlying conditions, this isn't surprising.

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Alex and his ilk have just used that stat incorrectly

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for a year to argue that the death numbers are artificial.

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Right.

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Now, I was thinking about this.

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And that idea that the hospitals are in on a get-rich-quick

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scheme because there's a certain amount that they get paid out

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by Medicare, Medicaid, based on COVID-19 patients.

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Yeah, that tremendously stupid idea about that, yeah.

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I was just thinking about it, and does Alex

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think that those hospitals don't get payments

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for other conditions?

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Does he think that someone getting,

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like if they have an aggressive cancer that they need

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treatment, does he think that these programs don't also

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pay out?

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What you're not understanding, and I

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don't know if you've been to a hospital in a while,

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they pay everything on a flat $100 fee.

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So if you've got cancer, you're taking all kinds of stuff

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and they pay $100 for it.

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It's been a while since I've been to a hospital,

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and admittedly, I don't have cancer.

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They switched it.

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It's super weird, but it's $100 for everything but COVID.

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Yeah, it's one of these days I'm actually

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going to sit down and try and figure out

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like what other payouts are.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So you're like, all right, here we go.

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Let's do this.

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But that may be needed for another day,

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because today we're going to get in to Operation Cyber Polygon.

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Ooh, now you're excited.

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I'm also lying.

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He doesn't bring it up at all.

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God damn it, Dan!

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You son of a bitch.

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No, no, Alex doesn't bring up.

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You always have to then, like when you're excited

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and you get a letdown, you have to just pass it on to me.

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Yeah, it is a little bit mean of me,

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and maybe I just want you to feel that disappointment.

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Yeah, no, no, no.

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We got to share in it.

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We're a team.

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We're partners.

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We got to share in that disappointment.

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So instead of getting into that, Alex just

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complains about things he imagined

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that Anthony Fauci said.

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Sure.

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You can play the clips.

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Once you're vaccinated, you can go out and not wear a mask

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and go to restaurants.

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That's Fauci.

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That's what they all said worldwide.

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Oh, sorry, doesn't work, because they've

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had you under their control for a year.

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They've doubled their wealth.

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They're taking over.

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They're not going to stop.

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They're bad people.

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So this is mostly about defending

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Tucker Carlson about attacks that

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have been made against him for his segment

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that he had where he was talking about like, hey,

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I was told that we could go back to normal

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once people were vaccinated.

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Oh, OK.

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I thought he was talking about the white replacement one.

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No, no, no, no.

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We've moved on from that?

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You can just get white replacement for like a week.

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He lets Harrison Smith defend that.

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That's fair.

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That's fair.

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So I think people might have gotten the sense that things

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would immediately return to normal

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after a vaccine was released, but that's not

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what was being said by experts, including Dr. Fauci.

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This is a straw man position that the right wing media

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types like Alex and Tucker have been using recently

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to argue against vaccination while pretending

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that they have some kind of a principled point.

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It's basically a child whining that their parent promised

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to buy them a pony if they got good grades when

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the parents said no such thing.

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Yeah.

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In December 2020, Fauci said, quote,

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let's say we get 75%, 80% of the population vaccinated.

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If we do that, if we do it efficiently

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through the second quarter of 2021,

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by the time we get to the end of the summer, i.e.

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the third quarter, we may actually

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have enough herd immunity protecting our society

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that when we get to the end of 2021,

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we can approach very much some degree of normality

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that is close to where we were before.

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So that's what he was saying at the end of 2020.

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No, at every point in time, they've

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said even after you've been vaccinated,

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continue to wear a mask, not least of which

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to stop the spread, but also just to make it fine for people

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to wear masks outside.

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In September, Fauci told Healthline, quote,

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we can be greatly helped by vaccines,

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but it's not vaccine alone.

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Let's assume that we get a reasonably effective vaccine,

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not measles vaccine where you have a 98% effective.

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I think that would be too much to ask for.

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But let's talk about 75%, 80% effective vaccine, which

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would be really good if we did that.

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If we did that and we ultimately got

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everyone who should be and could be vaccinated,

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I would think that together with not necessarily abruptly ending

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measures like masks and physical distancing,

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if we could get the majority of the community

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to adopt those health measures together

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with a reasonably effective vaccine,

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then we could get the level of infection

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down so low in the community that by the third quarter

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end of 2021, we could start thinking in terms of normal.

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Alex and his idiot friends don't live in reality.

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They've fabricated a fake one that adheres to the storylines

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that they want to tell and that they profit off of.

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Alex's story about the vaccine is

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that the globalists are trying to force it on everyone.

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So it's essential for that story to involve an explicit promise

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from the villains of the story that if everything will go back

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to normal just as soon as you take my evil vaccine.

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That's not the actual messaging that people like Fauci

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have been engaging in, but it's how it feels to Alex

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because that's the story that he tells for a living.

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You can see by the false portrayals.

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Yeah.

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Silly.

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What a dick.

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Yeah.

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So I think it's important to recognize a few things.

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One of them is that I'm willing to address and talk

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about like factual issues like, you know,

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cyber polygon if you were to bring it up.

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Or these other big operational lockstep nonsense.

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SPARS.

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SPARS, sure.

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That was recent.

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Yeah.

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I'm very happy to engage in those things.

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But I will also say that anybody who

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wants to take Alex Jones as someone who

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is a good purveyor of information

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will also have to explain this kind of thing.

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And I know God's real.

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I'm going to leave it at that.

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I have always had a connection to God.

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I was born again when I was probably about eight,

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nine years old.

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But I have been having experiences now

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that I'm going to keep private.

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But I'm going to tell you are biblical.

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You hear about the Holy Ghost, the Comforter,

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and all the rest of that.

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I am now routinely having experiences

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that now I would be pleased to be crucified upside down

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or tortured for five years for this.

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OK, I mean, I can just flip a switch in my brain

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now and go right to Valhalla.

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And so I am transcending these Satanists.

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And I am so thankful to God because I've

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been in a lot of pain and really upset over them

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and really taking on and getting very depressed.

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And I just prayed to God the last few months

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to take the worry away.

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And I'll fight harder than ever.

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And I've done that.

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And now I am really now experiencing the Holy Ghost.

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And it is un, oh my, oh, it's so good.

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Wow.

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I mean, we're talking 50 times what I ever experienced.

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Because I mean, you start crying getting near God

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and close to the door.

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But man, I've gone in the door now.

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And I mean, I've, I'll tell you part of it.

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I mean, man, I have these dreams now

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that are just intense ecstasy.

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And I'm in heaven.

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And I, trying to describe the beauty of it

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and the purity of it and the level of this

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is just like you're in God's mind.

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It's all good and well to have like religious beliefs

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and stuff.

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It's not normal to believe that you're

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having visions of being in heaven when you dream.

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Everyone, everyone, I am waking up having just been

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sucked off by an angel.

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Are you shitting me?

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This is ecstasy.

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I thought women were great.

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This is lunatic level behavior.

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The Archangel Michael visits me at night and gives me handies.

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I've been in the God's mind.

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It turns out all angels are gay, by the way.

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I think that this is silly.

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And I think this is stupid.

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And anybody who wants to take Alex

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as any kind of sincere good faith actor

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in the sense of like the conversation about ideas,

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let's talk about this being the way he sees himself.

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But even that's kind of, you know, maybe a personal attack

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and what have you.

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Well, all I heard him say was, I am having good dreams lately.

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Sure.

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So that's also, that's nice.

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But he puts so much more import on it than just someone saying,

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I've had good dreams.

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A little bit, a little bit.

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And then the other thing about it

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that I think is much more functional and grounded

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is Alex says at the beginning that he was born again

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at eight or nine when we know that he was a Satanist.

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Yup.

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To his teens.

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When you were born again.

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This timeline doesn't work.

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When you were born again, at eight or nine,

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had you already paid for the abortions

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or would that come later?

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Yeah.

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Is this before or after the Satanists tried to lure you

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and you were a functional Satanist until you were 18?

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Listen, I was a Satanist for a while.

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I was born again at eight or nine.

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I was a Satanist.

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Look, if you're not a Satanist when you're young,

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you have no heart.

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The problem with stories like this that are obviously

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fucking artificial and not true and played up

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for the presentation of this, the person

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that Alex wants the people to see him as,

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is you can't keep it straight.

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It just doesn't make sense.

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No.

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This timeline is ridiculous.

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So yeah, he was born again at eight

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and then went to the devil for a little while

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and then came back.

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I don't know.

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That's why all mythologies wound up in books,

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because they were like, eh, I'm telling you,

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I think Zeus did it this way.

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And somebody else is like, nah, nah, nah, Zeus is crazy, man.

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Yeah.

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Eventually, you've got to put it in a book.

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Otherwise, nobody's going to agree.

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Oral tradition has a way of changing stories

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a little bit over time, because of the different ways

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the different tellers would tell stories.

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You got it.

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So this goes on.

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Alex keeps talking like a deranged lunatic.

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Well, we have different words.

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Well, that's fair.

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And it is just, I mean, last night, man,

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I woke up really upset about 2 AM and everything.

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I'm like really upset about the world and really upset.

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And I said, I said, God, I'm going to pray.

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I'm going to go back to sleep.

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Please, please help me.

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And man, it was just, it was just unbelievable.

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There's no way to describe this.

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And I've never seen any of this in art and literature,

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because a lot of stuff I've seen,

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I've seen in movies and culture.

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Other humans have seen that archetype.

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I'm seeing stuff that has never been seen on this planet.

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And you can say, oh, your mind created that.

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Well, then, wow, that's quite a mind.

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But I'm telling the Satanists, you are missing out.

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You have no idea what you're missing out on.

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I just, it's unbelievable.

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All right, I'm getting metaphysical.

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I'm going to stop right there.

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All I'm saying is I want to stay on air.

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I need the temporal funds to do this.

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And we spend a lot of money running this operation.

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I pay the crew pretty good.

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And I don't want to have to do a lot of things here.

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I don't want to cut back.

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I want to expand.

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So go to mvollwarstor.com.

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That's the end of his long rant about the God giving him

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visions and stuff.

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Satanists have no concept of what it's like.

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So what I'm going to do is immediately

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take the Lord's name in vain and ask for your temporal money.

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I am going to tell you all about how great the Lord is.

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And how I'm special and have visions inside God's eye.

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And when I go to bed, when you go to bed,

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you just maybe have a memory that you replay in your head.

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No, I go to heaven.

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Absolutely.

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And in heaven.

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And I need money.

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And then I come back down and I break commandments left

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and right because I'm so good.

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It's great.

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It's really great.

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Also, I love the idea that he's seen things that

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have never been seen on earth.

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I want to know what those things are.

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That's like a Lovecraftian description of something.

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I enjoy that.

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Art in literature does not contain these archetypes.

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I get what you're saying, but also describe

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what it looked like.

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It does not belong in Euclidean geometry.

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I imagine if he described what it looked like,

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I could probably find some literature or art.

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Yeah.

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I think he saw an angle that looked acute,

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but acted as if it was obtuse.

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I looked at the standard model, and it turns out

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there are more particles.

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So Alex gets into talking about COVID

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and how it's a globalist attack, right, of course.

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Sure.

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But one of the things I really appreciate about Alex

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is that he's a man with good priorities.

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And he knows what, like, if you're going down a track

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and something more important comes up,

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kind of got to go for it.

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Italian lawmaker calls for the arrest of creepy Bill Gates

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in charges of crimes against humanity.

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And more and more scientists, more and more lawyers

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are coming out and saying, that's

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what this is, is a medical weaponized globalist takeover.

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And the sooner we rake up the horror

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and that our acquiescence to tyranny

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encourage these monsters to launch this,

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the sooner we're able to stop it.

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That's coming up.

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But Brian Stelter is one of the nastiest people on Earth.

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And he's a liar.

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What?

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He's an anti-American.

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He's a defamer.

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He's somebody that goes around against people deplatformed,

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like myself.

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He literally stalked 20-plus advertisers

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and ran them off by threatening to do pieces on them

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and call them white supremacists.

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He's a terrorist.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Economic terrorist.

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And what he is is a sack of garbage

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who acts all powerful and manly.

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He is America's enemy.

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OK, all right.

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Thought we were going to talk about COVID.

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Turns out you're mad at Stelter.

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I do appreciate that, of all people, Brian Stelter

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is our big bad today.

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You know, it's super weird to me that you

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have such a hatred towards Conor Friedersdorf.

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You complain about him so much less than Alex

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does about Brian Stelter.

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I haven't talked about Friedersdorf in a year.

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That's what I'm saying.

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I'm Frieders free, OK?

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That's what I do.

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Alex needs to take some cues from you and let it go.

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Just let it go.

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You don't need to read it.

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You don't need to be so mad at Stelter.

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Although, if you believe Alex, then his anger and hatred

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at Stelter is actually paid some dividends.

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If anything was ever an enemy of the country,

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it's Brian Stelter.

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And I can tell you, my rant from four years ago,

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calling him enemy of the people, I didn't know this,

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but a certain national talk show hosted others,

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sent it around everybody, and Trump got it,

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I recently learned, and that's where

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enemy of the people came from.

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So I am kind of the unofficial speech writer,

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I guess, at some level for a lot of folks,

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which I'm very honored to do.

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OK.

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So Trump took enemy of the people

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from Alex when he was talking about the press.

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Look, a phrase like that has never

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before been uttered in literature

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or in any kind of art.

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No archetypes.

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Nothing.

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That is brand new, straight from Alex's mouth to Trump's ears.

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I don't believe this, first of all.

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But second of all, if true, not something necessarily

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brag-worthy.

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That's kind of a pretty bad thing.

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No, I gave him a phrase.

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So Alex is complaining here about some stuff.

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Sure.

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And mic down for this, because I actually

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think that this is really hilarious.

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This is one of the funnier things I've heard in a while.

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I know the average man's watching baseball,

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his buddy's eating pizza and drinking beer at a bar tonight.

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And that sounds great to me, too, OK?

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In fact, if we weren't in so much trouble,

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I'd be buying season tickets to baseball and football

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and the NBA.

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I love it all.

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I like basketball.

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I like boxing.

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I like the Olympics.

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Man, I'd be happier than a pig in you know what if this wasn't.

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But I can't do it, because the whole thing's

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coming down on us.

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So what I'm doing at night is reading the UN documents.

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So here are the reasons I find this hilarious.

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The first is that Alex constantly

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pretends that he hates sports, because it's just

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the media's way of pacifying men's instinct

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towards conflict in battle.

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I was going to say, that blew me away.

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I was like, you hate sports.

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He gives a speech about it every single Super Bowl Sunday.

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Every one.

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It's ridiculous.

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Every one.

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The second thing that's really funny

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is how long it took Alex to come up with UN documents.

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What is it that I stay up late reading?

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I am reading.

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Fuck.

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Finally, this is hilarious, because this entire show

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is based on the idea that nothing is ever

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going back to normal.

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And yet here, Alex is decrying how the average man is watching

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sports at a bar with their friends,

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which Alex can't do because he's too busy with UN documents.

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Should the average people he's mad

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at not be able to go to a bar and watch sports

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because of Fauci's dictatorship?

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See, what it is is the government has you.

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They've been keeping you inside for a year,

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and they want to keep you inside for a year.

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Now obviously, everybody's out and about tonight.

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They have a great time.

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Everybody's having a great old time.

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This might sound kind of like nitpicking,

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but it's really more something that I

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want to use as a demonstration about how deeply

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seated Alex's narcissism is.

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His presentation of himself as a superior person

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because he fights imaginary globalists

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is more important to him than staying consistent

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with his ideas that people can't do normal things like go

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to bars with their friends anymore.

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You see the priorities there.

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Yeah, when anything gets in the way of Alex saying

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he's exceptional, it is out of the way as soon as possible.

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Alex will give up on any narrative

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for telling you how great he is.

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So Tucker Carlson is coming under fire

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from Chelsea Clinton about these vaccine comments.

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And Alex does the whole like, if you're vaccinated,

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why should you care if I get vaccinated routine, which

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is very dumb, but it works on folks.

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So he's doing that.

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He's going through this.

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And then he remembers the George Carlin bit.

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Oh, no.

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And this is one of his suggestions.

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Bring Pattison to deliver it.

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Actually studies it's swimming in swamps

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in the area you live in, and that means in sewage.

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Is that what we think swamp is?

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It's where the bears and the bees

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and the buffalo and the deer and the bobcats and the fish.

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That's the flora.

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You basically, that's the inoculation is Mother Earth.

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Don't swim in sewage.

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This is not good advice.

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All right.

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This is not revolutionary.

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You should not, instead of getting vaccinated,

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it's not a good idea just to jump in.

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So what you want to do, all right,

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you get this little cocktail.

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You put some Ebola in it.

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You're immune to Ebola.

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Makes sense.

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I shouldn't expect much more from somebody who thinks

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Mike Adams is a good doctor.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, don't jump into sewage tanks.

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No.

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It's not good for you.

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And swamps are an ecosystem, not just a toilet.

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Right.

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There is that as well.

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There's more than just the toilet of swamps.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Swamp thing wasn't poop thing.

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Shit thing.

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So this next clip is a little bit rough.

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It's a little offensive.

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Alex has found a clip from a protest.

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And I don't really know what all the circumstances are in it.

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But from what I can tell from the limited amount of context

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that's in the clip, it appears that some organizer

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at a protest took issue with some

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of the behavior of one of the white participants

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of the protest that was probably not

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in line with what the people who were doing the protest wanted

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to be how things were presented.

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Look, there's a reason people teach you

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how to protest at these things.

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There's a way.

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Yeah, and it can be disrespectful to the larger

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point of the protest if people are working across purposes.

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And that's what it seems like is going on in this video.

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Alex takes this and gets wildly racist.

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I don't hate white people because there's

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some racist white people.

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I don't hate black people because there's

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some racist black people.

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I judge people according to what they do, who they are.

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That's common sense, like Martin Luther King said.

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That's why America believed in what he said,

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because it was true and brotherly love

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that Christ talked about.

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But I have dozens of videos just today

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of whites being shot, stabbed, beat up because they're white,

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told you're not welcome here because you're white.

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And the hatred of these young black people's faces

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is palpable.

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But I notice most of the time, and I've

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looked at some studies on this, they're not even Africans,

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but where they're like 100% African.

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Oh my god.

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They're usually mulatto.

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They're usually part white.

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And now we learn, like Kaepernick and others,

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their parents are white liberals and have basically

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done this to them.

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Like, why is it always white skinned black folks that

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are being really anti-white?

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There's some really black folks that are doing this.

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That's because they have white parents.

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They're either adopted or one of the parents

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is white.

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And the left has done this.

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This is their communist revolution

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hidden behind black people so they

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can do this in claimants for black people's empowerment.

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So that's pretty offensive just on the surface level.

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And I don't feel like we need to break down exactly why that's

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incredibly fucked up.

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I mean, if you want me to just scream for about 15 straight

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minutes, yeah.

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I also think that if people who've been listening

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to our show for a while, they'd recognize

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this isn't necessarily an uncommon sentiment for Alex

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to express, despite it being horrible.

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I mean, it's, yeah.

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You know, if this were the first time that we heard him say that,

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well, go back and listen to the first times

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that we've heard him say stuff like that.

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Jordan started barking and dove out my window.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So the reason I pulled this clip is because the mentality

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that Alex is espousing, that these people who he's

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determined are not really black enough

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are being used to push a communist agenda

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to attack white people, is exactly,

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and I mean exactly, the argument that his spiritual predecessors

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like Gary Allen made when they opposed

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the civil rights movement.

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Yep.

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Allen's book, Communist Revolution in the Streets,

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lays out this mentality, and it's clear

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that Alex subscribes to this explanation

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of any kind of social justice-related activism.

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That's not interesting on its own.

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Alex is a dumb bigot, but what's fascinating

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is how Alex isn't stupid enough to argue against the civil

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rights movement, because he knows that he couldn't back up

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that kind of claim, and it looks a little bit too transparently

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bigoted through present-day eyes.

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Yeah, that's what I was saying a week ago or whatever,

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is like you can measure the same ideology being forced ever

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so slowly to be like, fine, you won on civil rights.

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Fine, we don't get slaves anymore.

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Fine, I'm still going to say the same shit, though.

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I'm going to do it.

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The book, Communist Revolution in the Streets,

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is mostly an attack on Martin Luther King Jr.

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So forgive me if I think it's a little bit funny for Alex

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to signal some imaginary support for King's ideas

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while using the exact same playbook his heroes used

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to attempt to discredit and demonize King himself

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while he was alive.

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This is bullshit, but it's important to recognize this.

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When Alex has glimmers like that, there is severe racism,

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but it's also these same ideas that

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have been bubbling under these hard-right forces that

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were in favor of segregation.

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They were against the entirety of the civil rights movement.

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Yeah, no, absolutely.

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And it's that same mentality that still underpins Alex,

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but he's smart enough to know that he

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would be called some horrible, accurate names

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if he argued like that.

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But even then, it goes all the way back to fucking slavery.

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It goes all the way back to being like, oh, well,

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see, whenever you allow miscegenation,

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the ones who are more white are more likely to cause it.

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And it's just fucking, it's slavery.

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It's the same shit.

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Yeah, there's that sort of influence

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and then this other influence that comes in.

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Yeah, it's all just very, very shocking and horrible.

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Anyway, that's, you know, who Alex is.

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Yeah, yeah, he's shocking and horrible and a bigot.

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It's not necessarily news, but it's

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important to recognize these things when they're here.

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Shocking, horrible bigot.

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Yeah.

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Also, he's been in God's mind.

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Yeah.

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Ha, ha, ha, ha!

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Hey, I wonder if it's all white in God's mind.

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I bet it is.

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I think it might be, Dan.

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So you might notice from watching Alex's show

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that all of his guests are complete lunatics who

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believe mostly the same things he does

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and say, not only that, but Alex, hey, aren't you great?

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And they like to flatter him, yeah.

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Love to.

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Love to flatter him.

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That's how you win.

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And you might think, like, why doesn't he

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have other guests on the show?

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For many reasons.

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Well, I have a lot of great guests on the show.

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We invite communists and globalists on.

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They won't come on, but everybody we have on regularly

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are smart.

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But right up there at the top is Robert Barnes,

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great lawyer.

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Barnes, so smart.

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Yeah, so commies and globalists have

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been invited, but the RSVP comes back not attending.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You know, I believe that.

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I don't know.

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I've been saying good work Barnes very dismissively.

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But now that I know Pat has tried stand up,

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he might be the dumber lawyer at this point.

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Yeah, it's neck and neck.

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Yeah, that's tough.

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Trying stand up comedy really lowers your.

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You know what's interesting is I do

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think that Alex does invite some people on.

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I don't know when lately there's been

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anybody who would be an interesting booking.

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But you know, you have the people like David Rothschild

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or like the weatherman.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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The moment you ask me for a poll, it's gone.

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I could have pulled it two seconds ago.

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Yeah.

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Bill.

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Bill Ayers.

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Yes.

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Yeah, so there are those interviews that have happened

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and like Alex comes out looking terrible.

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Oh, yeah.

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And so like, yeah, I guess maybe in the past

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he would have put out more feelers for globalists

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and commies in his definitions.

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But they don't go well.

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Those interviews are embarrassing.

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No, and you can't do them now because if somebody comes in

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and he starts getting religious, boy, it's going to get bad.

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Yeah, imagine if you had David Rothschild on now

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and Alex is just screaming about the fucking devil.

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The real fucking devil.

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I mean, Bill Ayers would be like, whoa,

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and then just leave.

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You're a Satanist.

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You're the devil.

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I am with God.

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I've seen his mind.

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Oh, click.

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Wow.

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Yeah, right.

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OK.

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So Barnes thinks that the Chauvin trial is a show trial.

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Nice.

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And he has a reason.

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Oh, he's starting to stay.

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Why are you saying this is such a fraud

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and where do you see it going?

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Two parts.

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One is that Chauvin had agreed to plead

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guilty to third degree murder before the trial.

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And so that put him in jail potentially for 20 years.

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And it was Bill Barr who blew it up.

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And so if they were serious about getting an outcome that

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could meet the facts, they already had that in the bag

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and they chose not to.

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So this is very much a Soviet style show trial

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simply because they refused to do a reasonable plea deal.

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And the trial is for public consumption almost entirely.

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So Derek Chauvin had offered to plead guilty

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to third degree murder and William Barr did reject that.

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But the details of the situation aren't

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being captured by super lawyer Robert Barnes.

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One of the primary issues is that according to an ABC News

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article Chauvin, quote, asked to serve his time

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in a federal prison and wanted assurances

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that he wouldn't face federal civil rights charges.

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Because he was asking for federal guarantees,

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the deal needed to be approved by the Department of Justice.

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But Barr, quote, wanted to allow state prosecutors

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to make their own decisions about how to proceed.

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Seems like that state autonomy thing Alex and his buddies

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yell about all the time being put into action.

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Yeah.

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And also Barr being like, I don't want to touch this.

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You guys deal with it.

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Also the fact that Chauvin was willing to plead

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to third degree murder is probably not a great sign.

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No, if you say he's willing to plead to third degree murder,

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wouldn't you want to then defend the murder

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charge instead of being like, the whole trial's

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illegitimate.

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Also the way that he's presenting

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is it's a show trial because they didn't accept

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what is a reasonable plea.

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And that's your determination Barr.

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You have determined that this is what

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would be a reasonable plea.

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That's not necessarily what the prosecution believes

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or the state.

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Yeah, justice doesn't exist unless it's equally applied.

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So that's it.

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So the real issue, though, is that this trial

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is just happening because it's a demonstration

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that the left wants to put on, that they

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can do whatever they want.

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Sure.

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So let me ask this.

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We've got a minute to break.

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What is the left looking for?

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Just rubber stamp what they want?

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I think the left wants him hung.

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The left wants him legally lynched.

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And the left wants to show they can use and weaponize

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the prosecutorial process to validate and vindicate

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their media narratives to help push

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a particular politicized agenda.

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Sure, so like anybody they want burned, they can burn.

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Exactly.

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That's the point, to show this is what we can do.

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Y'all need woke insurance.

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We can do it any time we want, any place we want,

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even to a police officer.

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I think that there's other issues.

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Like a guy died.

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Well, there's that.

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I don't think it's anyone, any time.

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I think there's specific circumstances that are.

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I would imagine that in this case,

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committing a murder is probably more important for the left.

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Well, I mean, look.

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That he committed a murder, not we want to commit a murder.

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They can burn anybody they want at any point, no big deal.

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As long as you murder somebody, we can burn the shit out of you.

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Anybody who murders, even cops.

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As long as there's a body, they can just jam you up.

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Just lie about how you murdered somebody, you know?

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So, you know, we got on the right, we have a lot of groups,

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people like the Oath Keepers, people like the Proud Boys,

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certainly.

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But Brian Stelter is a terrorist.

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Definitely.

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Yes.

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But you have these groups, and there's

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been pretty well-documented interaction between them

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and law enforcement, some overlap even.

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But Robert Barnes wants you to know that people like Antifa,

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they are actually the Nazi brown shirts.

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That sounds right.

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They want to triangulate BLM Antifa and the FBI

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and use the military on the people.

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Don't they get that will cause an internal civil war

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guaranteed?

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Well, I mean, the real model they're looking at

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is not so much the communist Soviet model,

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but is the fascist model of the 1930s.

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Sure.

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They want to know the long knives.

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They want to, yeah.

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Yep, you have your paramilitary supporters

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that are outside of the governmental structure that

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can do things that you can't do that you can use

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as a pretext and a predicate to do what you want to do.

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You create false flags events, you stage events,

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or you exaggerate events.

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I mean, I mean, the amazing, the January 6 event

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is basically being treated like the Reichstag fire.

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So it's the same, except there was less violence and less

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damage.

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You know who the only person I've

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heard call that the Reichstag fire?

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Fucking Alex Jones.

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Yeah, you would think.

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Alex spent like a week talking about inaccurate information

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about Hitler's rise to power and the Reichstag fire

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and how it was the January 6th storming of the capital.

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They were the same thing.

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Now Barnes is trying to say that the left is doing that.

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That's what the left does.

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Fucking nonsense.

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That's what we do, Dan.

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So stupid.

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That's what the left does.

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I just, I have very little patience

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for this direct pretending that that's not his entire strategy.

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Yeah, you know, it is so fucked up

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that they apply to us the characteristics that most

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define their thought process and then describe that thought

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process as disgusting.

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So it's like, hey, if they did do what we were doing,

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we would really hate them.

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Because it's evil.

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What they're doing that sounds like what we're doing

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and how we think, we'd be pissed.

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Totally.

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If they did the things that we think.

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Now let's interview Stuart Rhodes.

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Let's go ahead and get the people who

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decided to overthrow the capital.

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So you know, there have been some unfortunate things

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that I've seen popping up about the idea of like an America

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First caucus.

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Sure.

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Certainly there's no historical precedent of this being shit.

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Just call yourselves the Know Nothing Party

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and never read history.

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Just do it, fine.

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It's a little much.

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You want a bunch of white men running around rioting

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and oppressing people.

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You're the Know Nothings.

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Let's go.

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It's a little bit frustrating and scary.

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And I hope that it fizzles.

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That would be nice.

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But Alex is on that tip.

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He's on the vanguard of America First.

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Sure.

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He also knows nothing.

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So is Robert Barnes.

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Man, these are America First kind of guys.

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That's what caused Russians in the early 60s to defect to us.

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Because they saw Khrushchev acting like a maniac.

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Our leaders are acting worse than Khrushchev right now.

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By far.

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By a long mile.

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Putin looks completely reasonable compared to the way

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Biden is behaving.

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Putin's not changing his mind every other day.

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He's cutting defense budgets.

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As Navalny dies.

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He's asking for Jay time.

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Great.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, so they're getting into some pretty serious,

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like, oh, Putin's the best.

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As Navalny is literally starved to death

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and his body is falling apart and shutting down in prison,

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the main political rival of President Putin

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is being murdered by President Putin as we speak.

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To be fair, he's been consistent on that front.

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He's really been consistent.

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It's kind of a thing.

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Yeah, America First.

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But also Putin's much better than our leaders.

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Putin's much better than our leaders in America First.

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Yeah, America First.

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And Alex, I would take this more seriously

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and actually discuss some of the issues

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around maybe international relations.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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But I don't feel like Alex's positions deserve the respect

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of being taken seriously.

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I mean, listen to this nonsense.

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And by the way, I don't even respect a lot of generals

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and a lot of top people.

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Some I do, but at least they've been like in 20 tours

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and combat and kill people.

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It's all a bunch of weird Harvard women

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want to have war with Putin because they're

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going to show a man.

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It doesn't even make sense.

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It's insane.

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It's like putting a woman in the ring with Mike Tyson in 1989.

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It's kind of a silly way he's trying to format,

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formulate this thing.

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Or it's like, ah, yes, these women who have feminism

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run amuck.

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And that's why they're mad at Putin,

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because he's too much of a man.

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Yeah, I despise educated women leading a military.

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What I want is bloodthirsty murderers

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who went over to a different country on a lie

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and killed people for no reason.

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That's who should be running things, Dan.

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Sure, sure.

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And if Alex is going to insist on disseminating

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this kind of an idea, and I found myself

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having a very similar response to a lot of stuff.

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And this episode's a little bit shorter,

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because there's a lot of stuff that I was like, nope.

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Yeah, yeah, that's a big nope.

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And that's one of them.

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That's a big nope.

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It's like, nope.

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And I was kind of expecting that we

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were going to get into fucking cyber polygon.

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I know.

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I know.

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It was never going to happen.

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Yeah, it infuriates me.

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It was never going to happen.

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I'm sorry.

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Yeah.

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Niall, why am I apologizing to you?

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That's a good question.

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Anyway, Alex has some more things to say.

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Sure.

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This is the last clip.

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Him and Barnes are having a little discussion

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about how great Russia is.

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Sure.

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And Putin.

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Yeah.

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Deeply nationalistic country, deeply proud of their country.

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That's who Putin really is.

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He's Russia's version of Trump.

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That's why the deep state hates him.

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And it's just insane.

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We should be aligning with Russia on key foreign policy.

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I agree.

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And I feel the danger for my family.

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And it pisses me off, Barnes, that we're literally having.

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We're having some type of pissing contest

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with these weird liberals.

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Just Putin's Christian, and Russia's Christian now.

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So they see it like the Midwest.

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They want to blow it up.

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This is all just essentially projecting identity politics

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onto anybody who has a critique of Putin.

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They hate him because he's Christian,

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or it's just weird women who think he's too much of a man.

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Yeah.

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And yeah, it happens to be all of the identifying identity

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signifiers that Alex has.

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So he feels himself under attack when people criticize Putin.

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And again, it's just like a rank level of narcissism.

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It's not geopolitical analysis.

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It's not meaningful in any way.

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It's just he identifies, feels himself.

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Yeah, I can't think of any reason

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why people would be mad at what is functionally

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the richest man in the world.

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Yeah.

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Even if you're just Alex and you're like,

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hey, I don't believe in dynastic rulers.

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Sure, yeah.

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I'm into democracy.

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I hate dictators.

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And I definitely don't want anybody

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to rule over a country for, let's say, more than two terms.

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Yeah, it seems like he should have just

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an elementary problem there.

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But he doesn't.

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Nope.

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And I don't know.

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I think that if you look at it realistically,

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I think that what it mostly is is

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Alex sees a lot of his identity mirrored in Putin.

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Yeah.

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A lot of those things that are the surface level,

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I am a white male Christian.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And I think that he sees a strong person there

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that he lacks that as someone to follow.

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Yeah, performative masculinity is

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what he's really stoked about.

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Yeah.

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That's not to say that he's going

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to become Putin's number one guy.

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No, I doubt that.

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It's just a continuation of these longstanding trends

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that he's had.

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It was pretty overt, though, just the love fest

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of these America Firsters.

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Yeah, it's hard to go back and see

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the vehemence with which he despises Putin

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and then get to the present day where

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it's like, Putin's probably the best thing we've got,

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second, of course, to our God King Trump.

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Well, but he's Russia's Trump.

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Well, yeah.

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So I guess he's the God King there.

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And I wish we had him God Kinging us America first.

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Yep, it feels that way a little bit.

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Stupid.

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Yep.

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Anyway, Jordan, this episode's a little bit shorter,

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and I apologize.

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But you know, it is what it is.

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Yeah.

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We'll be back.

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Indeed.

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For another episode in the near future.

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That's the plan.

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And we'll see where the wind blows us.

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We may be back in the past.

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Let's hope for Cyber Polygon.

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Fingers crossed.

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I've got it open on my screen right here.

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I was going to say, you've got that locked and loaded for sure.

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Anyway, we'll be back.

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But until then, we have a website.

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We do have a website.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep, we're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledgefight.com.

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I go to betjordan.

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We're also on Facebook.

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We are on Facebook, and if you could,

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please find a local charity or bail fund in your area

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to help out people still protesting, still fighting.

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Sure.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZXClark.

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I'm Daryl Rundis.

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I'm the Juiciest Ice Cube.

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.