Transcript/469: August 12-13, 2020

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N-n-n-n-n-n-n-knowledge fight.

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.

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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.

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I have great respect for knowledgefight.

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Knowledgefight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.

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Knowledgefight.

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Dan and Jordan.

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Knowledgefight.

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Red alert.

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Red alert.

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Red alert.

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Need money.

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Red alert.

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Red alert.

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Andy in Kansas.

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Andy in Kansas.

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Stop it.

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Andy in Kansas.

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Andy in Kansas.

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It's time to pray.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Knowledgefight.

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Knowledgefight.com.

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I love you.

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Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes.

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I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk just a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan!

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Jordan.

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Quick question for you.

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot this week?

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Well, my bright spot today can be found in a very special location.

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All right.

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That is inside.

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In the mailbag?

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You bet.

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Oh, boy.

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Yep.

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Holy cow, you brought out the mailbag quick.

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Actually, I don't know who to give a thank you to on this, because it did not come with

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a name, but someone sent a SodaStream machine, so I can make my own seltzers, which is-

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It was going to happen someday.

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I was worried that it might... I have gone to Target a number of times in the past, and

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I've walked past the aisle of the SodaStream, and I'm like, wow, I need to get one.

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Well, obviously.

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But I could never get myself to make the jump, for a number of reasons.

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One is because I'm known for novelty purchases that are like, why did I do that?

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Waffle makers in the past-

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Of course.

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And thankfully, those are very cheap, but I couldn't commit to the idea of a purchase

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of a SodaStream, and one showed up, and I thought that was really cool.

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There were no flavorings in it, so I have to go and get some, and then I'll test it

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out and try out the machine.

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How does it work?

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Can you just SodaStream anything?

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I wouldn't.

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Can you just put anything in there and see what happens?

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I think you could, yeah.

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I think you can, right?

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Yeah, I think you could make a soda more fizzy.

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Right, so can you-

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Yeah, I think you could.

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What can't you turn into a seltzer?

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I was worried about those sorts of thoughts, because they inevitably lead to fizzy milk,

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and these sorts of things.

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I think that's a dangerous road to go down, and I'd prefer not to explore it, if possible.

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And that's why we got you a SodaStream, to make it inevitable and impossible to avoid.

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We'll see.

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Whoever sent that, please send me an email so I can give you a proper thank you.

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Yes, please.

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I do appreciate it very much, and I look forward to going crazy-

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Yeah, I'm excited to.

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It's carbonated coffee.

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I can't wait for late night, 3 a.m. text, like, did you know that you could put this

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in seltzer form?

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Jordan.

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Yeah, how about you?

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Oh, man, this is sad.

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You may feel like it's insignificant and small, but I've rediscovered my utter joy with Extra

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Crunchy Peanut Butter, Dan.

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It's not that small.

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Well, the problem is my partner has a peanut allergy.

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Oh, that is a problem.

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For several years, I have foresworn all peanut butter, and now, at this point in time, she's

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like, you're going to die without peanut butter.

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I can't live with you, COVID, et cetera.

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And so here we are.

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You find that your mood is drastically altered by not having peanut butter?

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Totally.

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I found that same thing with ketchup for me.

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I don't know what it is.

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Really?

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If I go months without ketchup, I end up becoming a real asshole.

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I found that out when I was in Greece.

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There wasn't a lot of ketchup around.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And I've got some, and I was like, I don't know, like a peen, maybe?

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You must be missing some amino acid or something that's in the peanut butter.

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Something that can only exist in peanut butter.

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What about cashew butter?

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Has she alerted cashews?

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What about cashew butter, Dan?

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You can't go for cashew butter?

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Have you tasted cashew butter?

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What about cookie butter?

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Lies?

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What about lies?

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Is that what you're telling me?

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You should try another butter.

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Refuse.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Just trying to figure out a way to help your domestic situation.

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Let's tell you something, I have eaten several hundred peanut butter and jelly sandwiches

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in the past week.

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Ooh, I have something here you should try.

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Fantastic.

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Oh, what's that?

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A little thing that I got at the grocery store.

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PB and J Bites.

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PB and J Bites.

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Yeah, you should give this a try.

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All right.

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A little novelty food that I found.

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Let's see how this works.

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I think that this was a little bit weird, but I found it enjoyable.

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It's a little bit of like a shell, sort of a pillowy shell that's covered in basically

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like a dusting of peanut flour and then strawberry jam on the inside.

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That's fantastic.

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Yeah, it's pretty good.

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It's perfect.

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Yeah, I enjoy that.

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It reminds me of like a crunchier Uncrustable.

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Do you remember the Uncrustables, the pre-made?

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Oh, yeah.

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Now, here's what's fun about this.

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Some people might think that we cut and I went to the kitchen and grabbed these snacks.

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Oh, good God.

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No, no.

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No, no, no.

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If you want to know how Knowledge Fight is recorded, I have some snacks on my desk.

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They just so happened to be what I was snacking on earlier.

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Convenience.

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I'm sorry that that wasn't all that crunchy.

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No, it was delicious.

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But I'm glad that you're rediscovering that love.

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Fantastic.

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I, myself, am rediscovering my love of Alex Jones and his stupid nonsense.

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Not entirely true.

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I just wanted to transition.

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Oh, okay.

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All right.

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But today, Jordan, we're going to be going over the time period of August 12th and 13th,

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2020.

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I'm damn, this is 2020.

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God damn it.

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And here is the part of the show where I will copy and paste my lecture from the last time

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Alex went viral.

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And I tried to explain to everybody that, hey, this just works in his advantage.

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You just got a video that went around that got 12 million views.

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No, no, no.

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It was great.

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Thanks, Patton.

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Thanks for your help, Oswald.

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Hey, nothing against Patton.

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I understand the instinct.

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And it is funny.

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It's so funny.

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Tiny Bullhorn is hilarious.

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Tiny Bullhorn.

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Of course.

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I remember when we were talking about it on Monday's episode, I was like, this seems like

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it's a joke.

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It has to.

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Maybe it was.

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It's possible.

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I don't think Alex or any of his producers are that smart.

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They're like, use a Tiny Bullhorn, people will make fun of you.

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There's no way there's that much craft involved and trolling.

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But yeah, one thing I wanted to tweet, but I feel like it's just so scoldy and not really

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what I feel like introduces much to the conversation is like, you all love this.

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And I do too.

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It's very funny.

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It's a Tiny Bullhorn.

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Alex is acting like an asshole.

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It's a Tiny Bullhorn, Dan.

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You want to shame him for yelling at these kids who are disinterested at Barton Springs

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or the Greenbelt or whatever.

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And I understand that.

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You will not shame him.

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There is no shame that is going to come from this.

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The ultimate goal isn't going to end up being reached.

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A more productive use of people's time right now, if you want to have tweets that are getting

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thousands of retweets, is making everyone aware that right now Alex is dancing around

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saying that COVID deaths are fake people, like something like that, because that has

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implications.

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That has implications in terms of his life.

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That is real.

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That is serious.

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That is dangerous.

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You want to get rid of him, right?

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Well, and he's in the middle of a lawsuit with Sandy Hook for saying that these people

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were crisis actors and all of that.

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His ability to try and pretend that he's learned his lesson, because that's something he's

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going to have to try and present in the case.

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I realized that I was being misled by X, Y, and Z people like Wolfgang Halbig.

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That ability to play that card diminishes when you recognize, oh, he's doing very similar

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things again without the influence of people like Jim Fetzer or Wolfgang Halbig.

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He can do this all on his own, and it erodes his ability to defend himself from those sorts

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of things.

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I feel like that would be a more productive, but...

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It seems like, honestly, that's something that the families could add right now to their

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deal is just literally like, hey, as another piece of evidence, we're tossing in this fact

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right now.

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You haven't ruled.

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We haven't even gone to trial yet.

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So guess what?

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He's doing it now in 2020.

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I think in terms of showing of character, showing of any kind of...

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Remorse.

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Remorse or growth or any... I don't know how much that would implicate the actual trial

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itself, but yeah, I think it is relevant.

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Yeah, totally.

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It's damning in terms of his claims that like, oh, I just got tricked by... or whatever.

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It's all their fault.

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It's Dan Badandi's fault or whatever.

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Yeah, no kidding.

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Yeah, it's like, no, but I think that that would be a more productive thing for everybody

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to be pushing out on social media.

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That said, there's no tiny bullhorn in that, and I understand why people naturally gravitate

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towards video that's exciting, that's enticing, that's a bit embarrassing, that you would

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be embarrassed if that was you.

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You think that that's going to rub off on someone like Alex, and it's just not.

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And so, I don't know, again, this is very unsatisfying, but that's maybe the tagline

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of our show.

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I get why people do this, and I'm not mad at them.

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I'm not scolding anybody.

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I'm not shaming anybody for engaging in fun tiny bullhorn mockery.

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I just think that if people really want to address the problem, they need to get a little

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bit smarter about these things.

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And a lot of people who are putting this stuff out, these large Twitter accounts, they probably

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don't know that someone like Alex has no shame, and this doesn't matter, and it's not going

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to hurt him in any way.

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I am unsurprised that Patton Oswalt does not listen to our show, Dan.

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That does not shock me.

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We are one step removed from Patton, quite frankly.

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We are.

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Honestly.

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Yeah.

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We are.

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Yeah.

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Come on, man.

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You know who you are.

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Yeah.

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Get to work.

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There's two different things here.

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There are two types of responses that I have to social media things.

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With this, I get it, I understand, no sour on anybody, but there's better ways to go

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about this.

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There are more important things about Alex that people should know right now.

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The flip side of this is the accusations about Alex burning that homeless person's mattress,

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that person experiencing homelessness' mattress.

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That was bad.

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That is just like, well, you're giving him...

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You done fucked up.

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Yeah.

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That one is an unforced error.

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This is just, hey, I get it, but it's free promotion for him in an opportunity to actually

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hurt his business.

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Right.

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I think, okay, here's what we do.

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We create our own Chinese firewall around Alex Jones' entire operation, so any information

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that gets out through the rest of the world is filtered through our prism.

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Well, another way to do this might be I could just start actually tweeting things.

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Ooh, that would be a good idea.

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Then we could do the viral thing.

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I mean, I have such a resistance to doing anything that's primarily motivated with attention

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gathering that I just... But at the end of the day, if that's a perspective that I want

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people to take more seriously, maybe that's something I should get over and do.

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I don't know.

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Be the change you want to see in the Alex Jones world.

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It's something I'm wrestling with.

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Maybe we have to use social media after all.

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We'll see.

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Jordan, we're going to get down to business on today's episode where we will see multiple

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instances of Alex loving going viral.

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Of course he does.

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But before we get down to that, let's take a little moment to say thank you to some folks

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who signed up and are supporting the show.

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So first Nate Vee.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks Nate.

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Thank you, Nate.

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Next Manuel R. I know Manuel.

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Thank you so much Manuel.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks Manuel.

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Thank you.

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Next rk-lover13.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks rk-lover.

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Thank you.

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Next banditisythebestdog.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Good boy.

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Good boy.

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Good boy.

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Good boy.

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I've got Fanny.

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to wear a diaper. She did for a while. She's fine now. Next, Michelle H. Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Michelle. Thank you. Next, Mike S.

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Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Mike. Thank you.

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Next, Alex M. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you,

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Alex. Thank you. And then finally, let's say thank you to a few people who donated on an

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elevated level. We appreciate that very much. So first, Sean R.D. Thank you so much. You

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are now a technocrat. Aaron V. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. And Frederico

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C.D. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt boogie on this,

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Watson, all right? Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that

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heroin. Why are you pimps so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on

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you. Thank you so much, Sean. Thank you so much, Aaron. And thank you so much, Frederico.

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Yes, thank you very much, all of you. If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey,

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I enjoy the show, I'd like to support these gents, you can do that by going to our website,

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knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or you could take that

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generosity. Here we go. Tie it up. I want to go with saran wrap. What are you going to

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do with it then? You're going to wrap it up in saran wrap. Okay. You're going to make

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sure that it's fresh. You want to suck out all the air. What's inside it? Generosity

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is inside of it. Is it inside a pan? You put it in the refrigerator, because you're listening

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to this in your car, so you want to put it in the metaphorical refrigerator. Your refrigerator

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that's in your car? No, it's a metaphorical refrigerator. It's a mental refrigerator.

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Okay. All right? When you get out, when you're done with work, you get home, you take it

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out of the fridge, Dan. You open it up and you give it to an organization or local charity.

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That was not good. I've done worse. How dare you? I've done worse, but that wasn't good.

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You were interrupting. I was trying to help, because you were going nowhere with it, but

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the thought is good. Thanks, buddy. Jordan, as you know, our phone number is 773-TATGUYS.

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And now, before we get to our show proper, we must check in with some voicemails from

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listeners. We're going to get some calls. Hey, guys. I'm a teacher, and I really enjoy

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your guys' content. I work in a rural area, and a lot of my students are fans of Alex

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Jones, and your podcast has made it so that I am able to counter some of Alex's rhetoric

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that I hear from his students with stuff that I hear from your shows.

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Fuck yeah! I just wanted to give you guys a quick thank

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you. It makes it easier to do my job and also go through the headache of hearing about conspiracies

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from my students and, sadly, my colleagues. But I really appreciate the work that you

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guys do, and I just wanted to give you guys a quick thank you, since you now have the

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TATGUY phone number. So, thank you for all that you do.

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That's a really nice message. That's a really nice message!

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Yeah, I've noticed, I've listened to some, and a lot of them are just very much like,

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thank you, you do a great job. Which is great, which is awesome!

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I appreciate that very much, but I don't want to play a ton of them, because that sounds,

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then it ends up becoming like us congratulating ourselves by way of voicemails.

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It's a little bit, I want to say, masturbatory. Sure, both of those work. But thank you so

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much. I really appreciate that message in particular, because I think it really gives

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another perspective that maybe we don't think about all that often, and that is that there

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are things... You should hit kids! Wait, what? Oh, you were

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going to say something? I was going to go a little bit different

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than that. Oh, okay, sorry.

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Yeah, there are ways in which this information can be helpful to people in other walks of

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life that maybe we take for granted sometimes. Yes, absolutely.

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And that's really awesome that that's a side effect.

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Yeah, that's great. Thank you so much for sharing that.

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Yes, thank you. Let's go to another message here.

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All right. Hi, guys. My name is Jorge Ortiz from Chile,

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from South America, and I'm a huge, huge fan. I love you guys. You have made my life better.

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You have taken me of depression. When I'm having a rough time, I always play your episodes,

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so I love you so much, guys. Thank you, thank you, thank you for everything. Friday is my

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birthday, so if you play this before Friday or near Friday, it will be amazing. Thank

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you, thank you, thank you. Happy birthday!

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Happy birthday! Shout out to Chile!

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Absolutely. I really hope that the message there is not

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that we got him off antidepressants, because I hope that's not the case. That would be

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an unhealthy use of our podcast. I hope that what's being expressed is...

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I hope that it's just an expression of our podcast, bring some happiness. But that's

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so awesome. It's really great to hear from our listeners around the world, and happy

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birthday. Happy birthday so much. Thank you very much,

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yeah. That's really awesome.

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Man, if we get a message that's like, you guys did it. You convinced me. Vaccines are

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bad. I'd be like, no! Shit, this backfired. All right, here was another message.

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Hi Dan and Jordan. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

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Love you. I'm Lisa, I'm a particle physicist in training,

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and I just wanted to say, Alex talks a lot about the large age on planet Saturn, and

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I think he's dumb as fuck. Well, not that and everything else. But the LHC is awesome.

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I love it, and I hope to work there someday. But no, it will not destroy the world. Even

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if the large age on collider does create a black hole, it'd be a tiny little one, and

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the odds of that even happening are incredibly small. And sure, yes, there was that one time

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that a bunch of dumb fucks, because all physicists are dumb fucks, dressed up in robes and pretended

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to worship a statue and act like Satanists, but you know.

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I knew it.

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Gotta have fun. So yeah. Just wanted to say that. Thanks. Bye.

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Thank you so much, Lisa.

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Yes, thank you very much, Lisa.

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I appreciate your call, and we are pulling for you to get that job at CERN.

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Totally.

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We will be watching your career with considerable enthusiasm.

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If we can put in a good word with it. Do you know anybody at CERN?

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I did meet a guy who worked there. He used to come to my comedy show.

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Oh yeah. No, you told me about that story.

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There was a guy who, he used to show up, we used to have dance parties after the comedy

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show, and he would show up for the dance party.

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You know, where you meet people from CERN.

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Yeah. He had, I think it was yoga class that ended, so he'd show up right at the end of

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the comedy show, usually around the headliner.

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Sure, sure.

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And then hang out. He was like a 50s, 60s-year-old man, and he was very out of place, but he

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was a super nice guy.

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He was just cool as shit.

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I don't remember his name or anything about him, but he worked at CERN.

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The man creates black holes. Of course he wants to dance.

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In theory.

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Alright, we have one last call here.

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Hey, Cat Guys. This is Matt Trufftke. Wanted to say congratulations on the return of the

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call-in line.

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Hey, Matt!

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I'm just driving around running some errands, listening to the episode, and I thought I

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would say something that I posted in the group, but made me laugh really hard. I was listening

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to Friday's episode, and Dan, you put in a clip of Rex saying, Trump really sucked, but

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you have to give him one more chance.

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And what you didn't point out, and what made me laugh super hard, is that twice in the

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two clips you played, he said, on November 4th, we have to re-elect Trump, which would

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be great, except you got the day wrong. The election day is November 3rd, and he repeatedly

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screwed it up.

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And I could not help but laugh about that, because originally, I thought it was going

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to be a prank of him saying, like, hey, everyone, go out and vote for Biden on the 4th, trying

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to, like, be, like, that stupid thing that people did four years ago, and I think Alex

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even did it four years ago, but no, no, he is just misinformed of when the election is,

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and is lying about it, or just doesn't know on his show.

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Anyway, love the show, keep up the good work, it's been so wonderful listening to you guys

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and listening to this work, which I know gives so many people pleasure. Hope you're having

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a great day. Alright, bye-bye.

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Yay, drop game!

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Yay, drop game! Oh, man, it's been so long since I've heard his voice. It's so long.

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Such a delightful man. New father!

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New father!

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Congratulations!

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Just had a child!

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And I've been meaning to bring this up as a bright spot, but I've just gotten sidetracked

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by bonsais and what have you, but I do enjoy, I've been seeing some tweets of his where

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he refers to himself as the night master.

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He is the night master now.

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I enjoy that persona. I like the idea that he now with infant must become the night master.

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First day is night master, two weeks later you're the night stalker. I'm just saying,

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Matt, you gotta watch out.

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Also, he does bring up a good point about that Rex rat-fucking himself. It was actually

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Trump four years ago who said the wrong day of the election. He got it wrong. I'm not

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sure if Alex followed along with him, but I remember that Trump was like, go vote for

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me on the wrong day. So, Jordan, we've gotten through our business. Let's jump into the

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episode here. We're going to start on the 12th. And this episode, something unintentionally

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hilarious happens on this episode that I'm super glad, but yeah, it's kind of stupid.

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Does he slip on a banana peel? I feel like before the end...

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Metaphorically, yes, absolutely.

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But like literally, before the end, we have to see him slip on a banana peel or get hit

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in the face with a pie. Or perhaps a flower squirts water.

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I think one of these clips is spiritually the equivalent of slipping on a banana peel.

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But not literally. So Alex's big narrative, of course, is that Trump is going to win the

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election. There's going to be cheating and what have you. And so now Kamala Harris has

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been announced as the vice president pick. And so Alex is picking up a narrative about

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this.

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No matter how many mail-in ballots they have or how much fraud, there's about to be a giant

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landslide and top analysts, top professors, top political scientists who've been dead

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on picking the last five, six elections are all unanimous. Trump is going to win in a

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huge landslide.

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And I see Limbaugh and Hannity and other talk show hosts and even folks that are here on

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Info Wars Network who are great people going, oh, look at Kamala Harris. She is absolutely

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reviled. She was polling at one percent when they tried to make her the front runner during

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the Democrat primaries. The woman has more baggage than the belly of a 747. Nice. Boy,

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I'm trying to really hurt their progressive base. Democrats are senator going to vote

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for Trump now. Ladies and gentlemen. They know they're going to lose. The strategy is

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to contest the election, have a woman they can claim as part black. So that criticism

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of her they can say is racist. Of course. There we go. They can then stir up civil war

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and race war in this country that they've already primed and ignited. I have no idea

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who these top people Alex is referring to, who are all unanimously saying that Trump

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is going to win in a landslide. Satan Ilver. I believe he's there. 835.com. Satan Ilver.

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From a simple look into some of the 2020 predictions, I can't really find any reputable sources

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that even say that Trump is a likely winner. The Economist's forecast project is looking

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at an 89 percent chance of Biden winning the electoral college and a better than 98 percent

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chance he'll win the popular vote. Yeah, that sounds about right. The predicted market-based

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odds have a safe Biden win predicted, and that's even without him winning Florida. Some

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other predictions are closer, but I can't really find anything that matches up with

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what Alex is saying. Now, his response to the announcement of Kamala Harris being the

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vice president pick is entirely predictable. She's a woman of color, so his angle is to

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insist that she was chosen as vice president because now, if you criticize her, you'll

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be called a racist. Of course. This is super boring and is itself a racist position because

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it's very easy to see how Alex would have said this about any potential non-white vice

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president pick. No, Dan. If Stacey Abrams, Cory Booker, or Karen Bass had been his choice,

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Alex would be saying the exact same thing. And this works for any sort of bigotry. If

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Biden had chosen Elizabeth Warren, Alex would claim that if you criticized her, you'd be

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called a sexist. If he'd chosen Pete Buttigieg, Alex would claim that if you criticized him,

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you'd be called a homophobe. Sure. What Alex achieves by engaging in this kind of argumentation

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is to make the argument that all candidates who are not straight white men are not on

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a ballot because of their qualifications or because they earned it. They're just there

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to make people like Alex look bad when they criticize them. This is a very passive and

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cowardly way of arguing that only people who look like you deserve to be in leadership

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positions. Also, in a much more concrete way, this is Alex trying to preemptively excuse

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some really racist things he's going to be saying about Kamala Harris. Oh, it's going

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to be bad. Yeah. It's very possible to criticize her record and not be racist, but it seems

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impossible for Alex to do that. That's a good point. So when he sets the stage by saying

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that all criticisms of her are going to be called racist, he's preparing his audience

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to dismiss valid complaints that his criticisms and those of people in his sector are in fact

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racist as hell. No. Yes. I don't have any other responses, yes. I don't have any response

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other than yeah, obviously. There's plenty of people who are criticizing Harris and are

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not being accused of being racist because they're not doing it in a racist fashion.

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Yeah, well, it's hard to imagine not doing something in a racist fashion if you are a

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racist. Like that's one of the fundamental things they don't understand. The idea of

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somebody criticizing them without a racial component makes no sense to a racist because

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everything has a racial component. Yeah, you might be onto something. Yeah. So Alex claims

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that he knew that Harris was going to be the VP pick going back to the primaries. Of course.

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And I'm going to play him saying that and then I'm going to laugh at his face. You could

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see the preparation. I said during the Democratic primaries last year that it would be Kamala

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Harris because Jeff Zucker and Jeff Bezos and all of the big Silicon Valley gang and

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the Chicoms won her. Of course. Because she will do whatever they tell her to do just

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like Joe Biden. So it's no longer, oh, Infowars exactly predicted this over a year ago. We

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didn't predict it. They were all admitting that this was one of their main plans. Alex

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spent way more time talking about Bloomberg. It's no longer. Do you remember when Bloomberg

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ate something weird and Alex spent like a week talking about it? He spent so much more

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time on Bloomberg, but he ate something weird. And he also like, he didn't say that Kamala

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Harris was going to be the pick. He was like talking about Hillary was the shadow candidate

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with Michelle Obama. Yeah. So, um, look, the point is like Alex has said just about everything

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in the course of democratic debates and primaries. And so now he can say like, I knew it all

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along. Of course. Harris was not like in his top tier of maybe for a minute, maybe, maybe

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for a minute, but that wasn't his consistent, like this is what it's going to be. It doesn't

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matter who it was. He predicted it. Absolutely. So now, um, th this is such a great illustration

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of how stupid Alex is and why, like legitimately, if anybody takes Alex's show seriously, they

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need to wake the fuck up, but they're going to rob us of our Liberty, our freedom, our

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whole future. And then Kamala Harris, we got to get these other clips. Cause I saw her

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say this on MSNBC and I had the guys looking, we've been able to find it, but here's the

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quote that reminded me. And I've seen a bunch of the democratic party operatives say this.

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You've all seen them say this, where we got to, once you get rid of Trump, we got to get

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his supporters and outlaw them and hunt them down and level them and destroy them and demolish

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them. I mean, these are the terms and once Trump's gone, this is Kamala Harris. And once

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Trump's gone and we have regained our rightful place in the white house, look out. If you

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supported him and endorsed his actions, because we'll be coming for you next, he will feel

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the vengeance of a nation. No stone will be left unturned as we seek you out in every

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corner of this great nation. For it is you who have betrayed us. Kamala Harris, June

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18th, 2020. This is a fake quote from a satirical website called bust a troll.org

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And Alex is reporting on it as if it's a real thing that Kamala Harris said. Sure. This

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is just embarrassing levels of sloppiness and inaccuracy on his part. And this is one

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of those instances where he has to know as he reads those words that there's no chance

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that's a real quote. He has to know that he's actively lying to his audience as he reads

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that, like he just doesn't care. How could you say those words and think they were a

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real quote? No kidding. According to that website's about page quote, everything on

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this website is fiction. It's not a lie and it's not fake news because it's not real.

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If you believe that it's real, you should have your head examined. It seems that the

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mission of this website is to create fake things that appeal to conservatives, particularly

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scared old white men who will believe these lies to be true. After they've accepted these

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fake stories, it's then revealed that the stories are made up, at which point these

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tricked people will feel shame and realize that they're too gullible. Which is what they

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do, right, Dan? This is basically laid out in their about page, and while I do accept

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that the first part of their plan works pretty well, and we see it working with Alex, the

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second part is flawed. It's tough. There is no shame. There's no recognition of getting

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tricked. The response to something like this is denial and rationalization. The intentions

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of this site may be good, but I don't think that the site is going to have the effect

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that it wants, and it may unintentionally be part of the problem it intends to help

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solve. The expectation that you would feel ashamed if it was revealed that you believed

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something that was fake doesn't translate to folks who have made a habit of accepting

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false information based on appeals to emotion.

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Makes accepting false information part of their core identity.

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In this case, literal truth may be that this is fake as hell, but what's more powerful

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is that it feels true to these scared old white dudes that Alex is repeating the fake

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quote to. It resonates with them, and it accurately reveals what they're afraid of, so it must

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be real. Even if you reveal that it's from an explicitly satirical site, they'll just

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say that the words themselves may be fake, but the sentiment behind them are right on,

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and it's actually what they believe. It's actually what Harris believes, so even though

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the words are fake, it's what she actually...

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And the worst part is, I kind of wish that was actually what she believed.

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No, you don't. That would be bad.

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So, that, like, to me is just an outrageous... Alex is so sloppy.

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Just say it was from Thomas Jefferson.

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Why not?

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It's the same thing. Just say Thomas Jefferson said it about King George and we'll move on

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with our lives.

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I just don't understand how someone can allow themselves to have that loose of standards.

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It's amazing.

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It's not standards. There are no standards.

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You would have to have standards before they could be loosened or tightened in either direction.

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Yeah. And it continues. Alex ends up playing a clip of Harris saying something, and he

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pretends that it's something entirely different.

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Here's Kamala Harris, I mean, there's a bunch of these clips, saying that she will have

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executive action to take your semi-autos. Here she is.

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Let's look at the facts. One in four police officers who was killed in the mile of duty

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by gunfire is killed by assault. Let's look at the fact that there are four million assault

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weapons in the United States, which were imported here from foreign countries.

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So I am also prepared, and I'm announcing for the first time today here with you, to

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take executive action to ban the import of a saw like this.

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That clip doesn't say what Alex said that it was going to say. He said that she was

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going to take executive actions to take your guns when the actual clip is her saying that

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she would be in favor of executive action to ban imports of semi-automatic weapons.

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That's almost like a nationalist enough, protectionist enough idea for Alex to be like, fuck, yeah,

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we need homegrown American-made assault rifles.

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Well, what you're doing now is realizing how they would spin it if Trump did it.

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If Trump said that, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, he wants gun manufacturing to be in America where it belongs, Remington or something.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

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What's more important to me is the, I mean, it's more or less gaslighting. It's like,

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here is what this clip is. The clip is something completely different, and we're not going

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to address that.

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Why bother?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Alex takes calls on this show. He spends some time going to calls, and one of these calls

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is the funniest thing I've heard in a really long time. Probably the audio version of a

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tiny bullhorn.

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Okay. Okay.

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It's really good.

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Okay.

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But it doesn't come until later.

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God damn it, Dan.

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On his first call, this guy has a movement that he's a part of.

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Sure.

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And Alex does not know what it is, and I think that the caller might be disappointed.

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Robert in Florida. Robert, you're on the air. Welcome.

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Hello, sir. How are you doing? It's an honor to speak with you, Alex Jones. My name is

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Robert Christiansen. I'm over here in Spring Hill, Florida, and I was the spark to something

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that is taking off like a wildfire in this area.

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Bravo.

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Called Operation Flag Drop.

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Tell us about it.

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Ooh, that pause. That pause was... I think there was an expectation that Alex's response

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would be like, you're the guy?

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You're the Operation Flag Drop guy? It's taking hold like wildfire.

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It certainly is. Do you know what that is?

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No.

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All right. Neither does Alex.

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Oh, of course not.

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But we get an explanation.

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Okay.

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It's kind of boring.

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Tell us about it.

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All right. And pretty much, it's every Friday, 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Okay? Every Friday, you get

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people together, you get to a main intersection, and you do your love for Trump. Get out, get

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people active, get people on the ground in these everywhere, everywhere. 6 p.m. to 8

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p.m. to show the polls are lying. Also, expose the scandemic for what it is.

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Sure.

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And bring people together in the community, because promote your small businesses that

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are coming out to those flag drops. Promote your local candidates that are running for

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election in those areas. See who stands with Trump.

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Sir, this is pure genius, and if Trump won't have the rallies, because these people are

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too cowardly, we all have to start having these rallies for Trump in America everywhere.

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You've invented protesting? What are you doing? Growing up in central Missouri, in Columbia,

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my parents, every week, every Wednesday after work, would go to the corner of Stadium and

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Providence, which is the biggest intersection in town, and have honk for peace against the

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Iraq war signs. There were a group of liberal hippie types who would meet up and have an

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anti-war demonstration every week. It's a very common thing.

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No, wildfire. Catching like wildfire. I have got an amazing idea for you, Dan.

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If only these dumb hippies in Columbia had given it an operation something thing. If

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only they had dressed it up as if there was some kind of amazing innovation.

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Every operation behind it. Jesus. Ridiculous.

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All right, here's what I've got for you. All right, I've got an idea. Now, every Friday

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at 6, now maybe 6.15, sometimes the 18 holes... Okay, I get off work at 3. Then I play

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a nice 18. Sometimes at 6.15, I'll get there at 6.15 PM, and we are going to take it to

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the goddamn... I don't know who we're taking it to. I guess the virus? Anyways, but it's

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going to have to stop at 8. I have to pick up my kids from the afternoon...

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Jordan, you have some great ideas, but I am actually the spark behind something that is

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catching like wildfire. What's your wildfire?

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I should tell you about Operation Inkwell. Okay, all right.

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Here is what happens. All right, I'm listening.

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Me and a couple of like-minded people get together. Okay, I like it.

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We take paper and then pens. Watch out. What are you going to do with those?

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We write requests to our representatives, and we send them.

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Do you mean like a letter-writing campaign? I'm just imagining these fucking ding-dongs

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just discovering the most basic versions of civics.

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Holy shit. Let me tell you something about this change.org. You can put a petition in

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there for them to stop with the virus stuff. I'm amazed, and actually Alex ends up stealing

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this idea. Of course.

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He decides to do an Operation Flag Drop rally this coming weekend at the Capitol.

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He's so stupid. Yeah, he just steals everything.

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Yep. So anyway, the country is under siege, and

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that means that Alex has got to complain about race stuff.

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This nation is under siege. They've created a normalcy bias where we just think things

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are okay and that we're still in a free country and the social contract hasn't been broken.

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It's been broken by the deep state, by the globalists, by the Democrats, all the slobs

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that have not been working for decades and expect us to take care of them that want to

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hold us hostage. And now the Democrats are holding the country

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hostage saying they're going to contest the election. They know there's going to be a

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landslide. And so they're going to have states secede

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and they're going to trigger race war on the back of George Floyd.

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Whereas I can show you four videos that came out just since last night of white people

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being executed just because they're white and white people being beaten. But you know

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what? I can't even bring myself to do it. Good. Don't.

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But I will, because we have to. Oh, shit.

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Wrong narrative. US mainstream media mum on murder of five year old white boy shot in

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the back of the head in his own front yard by the black neighbor because he rode his

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bike through the edge of his yard, killed him execution style in front of us to seven

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and eight year old sisters. The father looking out the window thought

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it was a joke, thought it must've been a cap gun, but it wasn't zero coverage of the mainstream

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media. This happened what four or five days ago only hit the real media yesterday.

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Everything I'm going to say here should be taken to imply that I think this story is

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anything less than a tragedy and a horrific crime. In instances like this, we find ourselves

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in a position where we have to take the story that Alex is telling and often that's an exaggerated

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or deceitful narrative that he's building. And when we push back against that, it can

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sometimes feel like we're minimizing the reality of the underlying story, which is not my intention.

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Ultimately, it should never be ignored that there is a child who died here and that there

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is no reason that that needed to happen. There's no indication from the news that I can find

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that this five year old child was killed because the child was white. This is Alex's editorial

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position where any crime that's committed by a non-white person against a white person

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includes a racial motive. Whereas any crime a white person commits against a non-white

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person probably had nothing to do with race. Now, I know that Alex isn't saying explicitly

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that this child was executed because they were white.

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He's just heavily heavily heavily implying it. It's the only story that he gets to after

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the preface of I have these stories about white people who were executed because they're

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white. He says that the child was killed execution style. Linguistically, the link is there to

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make that connection and there's nothing in this story that I can find at this point that

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would support that reporting. A KMOV4 story on this says, quote, no details about a possible

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motive for the shooting have been released but police told WRAL the shooting wasn't random.

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Sessoms, that's the shooter, lived next door to Cannon's father. A neighbor said that the

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two men had dinner together Saturday night and that Sessoms was at Cannon's father's

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home earlier Sunday, the day of the shooting. So there's something to this story, some sort

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of a detail that is unknown at this point. What has happened here is that the right wing

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of media surrounding this case, it's the normal refrain of the media's ignoring this story

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because the victim's white and thus it doesn't fit their narrative. This is a way of indirectly

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attempting to invalidate the stories that you do hear about violence perpetrated against

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non-white people, which you must only be hearing about because it's the media's agenda to tell

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you those stories. Framing this story this way is a disservice to the public and further

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it's kind of insulting to the victim and his family. It's not clear what the situation

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is here and for people like Alex to use this story as a prop for their white victimhood

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narratives seems kind of in poor taste. And in terms of what is different, in terms of

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a lot of people's response to this, it's that the guy got arrested and it's a horrible murder

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and he is going to face consequences for it. Obviously the ideal situation would be nobody

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is murdered, but seeing as we don't live in a perfect world, it would be good if justice

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was dealt out appropriately. So when you have things like the cases of Ahmaud Arbery or

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Breonna Taylor, these cases are really resonant for people because there isn't action that's

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being taken against the people who committed these crimes. There's no consequences. They're

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allowed to murder again. Yes, and presumably you'd have a similar response to that regardless

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of the race or ethnicity of the victim. This case of the child is horrifying because it's

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a child, obviously. It doesn't require as much maybe outrage from people because the

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system is working as it's supposed to. The guy got arrested, we'll figure out what the

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details of the story are as that information becomes available. I don't understand why

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that's so complicated. Here's what I was thinking. If you say to me that they're going to want

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to try and start a race war, quote, on the back of George Floyd, I'm going to swing.

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I'm going to swing. If we were in public and he said that out loud, I would have taken

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the swing immediately. I almost took a swing at you when you said that. I feel like we

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might need to... It's fucked up. I might need to get you on a yoga regimen or something

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because... Because listening to racist shit on a... Well, I mean, quite frankly, you mostly

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listen to it when I'm the only person within swinging distance. So for my safety, you might

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need to take a quaalude before the show. I would never hurt your play-out stand. I appreciate

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that. My bonsai is still very sensitive. Look, I understand that instinct and that response

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that you have. To me, I just think it's a very tired game of misrepresenting cases in

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order to be like, the media isn't covering this. I could find plenty of stories in outlets

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that you might call mainstream media about this. It's just what is there to advocate

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for? Right. Other than don't kill people. And I think everybody's on board with that

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and I think we can certainly get some mileage out of that. There's nothing really that needs

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to be... I mean, not nothing, but there isn't an endemic social ill that people can galvanize

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around like cops shouldn't put their knees on people's necks or people shouldn't... Cops

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shouldn't no-knock warrant. You shouldn't shoot somebody that you're chasing down because

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you suspect that they might have robbed something. Exactly. Those are far more social issues

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that we can get involved with and have a conversation about that could possibly lead to some good.

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If you want the media to have a large conversation about don't shoot a child, okay. Don't. Good

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conversation guys. We did it. Yeah. Anyway. Man, I'm so grateful that you dig into it

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and you figure out what's really going on because at this point in time, I'm beyond

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bad faith arguments. Like if somebody's what abouting me about that, I'd say that's a tragedy.

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You don't care. Let's move on. Well, and we know... Because he doesn't care. Well, we

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know that Alex doesn't care. Exactly. And you can tell because of this. So this poor

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little white boy, no one will ever care about his name. He's got to go fund me that our

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camera guy actually gave some money to. Pitiful. Almost no money's been given to him. If he

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was black, it'd be a $50 million right now, but it'd all be directed to Kamala Harris

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who likes to lock black folks up. So here's the two indications that you have that Alex

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doesn't give a shit about this. I am very rich, but my camera man actually donated to

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the GoFundMe. Well, that's one thing. Alex saying that his camera man donated to it means

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that he didn't. Exactly. Because Alex would have said I donated. There's just no money

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in there. Who knows about this that could give money to this GoFundMe? The GoFundMe

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that I found was way over its goal. Now, obviously, I think that these sorts of things are always

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very difficult to sort of think about even. What kind of trauma and grief are you dealing

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with? There's no possibility of putting a monetary value on any of that, but it certainly

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wasn't nothing the way Alex is portraying it. Now, the two things that I think are indicative

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of him not caring are, one, he obviously didn't give any of his own money. Second, he doesn't

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know the kid's name, and that's why he's saying no one will ever know his name because he

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realizes shit. That's his out. That's his little out card. Like, hey, I'm going to say

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this in a dramatic way. No one will ever know his name. What's his name? He doesn't know

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any of the details of this story until he starts cold reading it and whatever. Anyway,

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Fox will try to pretend that he's not racist. But when he starts looking at like a picture

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of the perpetrator or the alleged perpetrator in this case, it's because he hasn't gone

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to trial. He's just talking about how he looks. Unbelievable, ladies and gentlemen. They can't

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even hide what they are. Demons. We got a demon problem, folks, not a racial problem.

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Some groups do seem to be more susceptible to the infestation on. What are you doing?

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Very, very sad. Very, very sad. Some groups, some groups, some groups are more susceptible

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to demon. Look, hey, listen, white people. They're susceptible to demons, but their lack

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of melanin is what keeps the demons out. The demons need melanin. They get sunburnt, Dan.

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That's the issue. How do you say something like that and not like recognize that you're

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a gigantic bigger? How do you say something like we don't have a race problem. We have

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a demon problem. Now it should be said that certain groups are more susceptible to demon

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possession than others. So maybe we do have a race problem. So, OK, so some races are

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more owed. Now I see what you're getting at, Dan. I think I think you're making a very

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good point now. I have I am absolutely not a racist. I believe everybody is wonderful.

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But I have created a system where and I blame demons for things. I'm sure. And also all

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the races that I think are gross and scary are full of demon. No, no, no, no, no. It's

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not my fault. It's just that after studying all of these heads, Dan, I can tell that if

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the certain shape of your cranium is different, you're more susceptible to demons. Now, just

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so happens great that my baseline is white people, you know. So anyway, Alex is going

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viral with that video. It's a tiny bullhorn. Loved it. And he loves it. People know that

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they twist and they perceive. But we have the full video. Are you a tiny bullhorn at

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info wars dot com and band on video? Tiny bullhorn. Austin greenbelts reopened after

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mayor illegally sends in contact tracers. See all the fake rangers and all the police

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standing by the police are the ones saying it was pure bull. They called seven police

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cars on me and that family was able to march in. But the media says I screamed at the family

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and doesn't show you them high fiving me. I was mean to the Hispanic family. I think

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I don't I don't care about this at all, but I ever told you Alex is my hero. He's just

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he's doing the normal game that he plays. This this standard is a five minute video.

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They played one minute of it. They took it out of context. Yeah, the context is you got

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mad because your wife wasn't she asked that she had a registration to go into the fucking

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green belt and he went back with a tiny bullhorn looking to cause a scene. You made a scene

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at the teens. Didn't quite give you the the juice that you were looking for. You got all

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sweaty and you're an embarrassment. But you went back to scream at the manager with a

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tiny bullhorn, tiniest little horn. Of course, everyone's going to make fun of you. How dare

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you? So that's embarrassing, but probably not as embarrassing as congressional loser.

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Next Alex Jones guest, Deanna Lorraine. Deanna Lorraine joins us. Thanks for coming on. What

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do you want to tackle first? Well, I don't know. You want to tackle the Australian cutoff

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when they pretended it was a bad feed. Or we can talk about communist Gavin Grusin.

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So one thing, one thing that's really funny is Deanna Lorraine's Twitter handle is still

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Deanna for Congress. She lost her primary. Oh, she's going to come back. Yeah, she's

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going to make a comeback for sure. So she talks about the Australian cutoff there. And

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so what happened is that on Australian TV, I don't remember what station, but they were

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doing a segment on COVID-19 denial folks. And they're like, well, why not just interview

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someone who believes it's a hoax? Yeah. So they had a show she was invited on and she's

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talking about bunch of nonsense. Sure. And in the middle of it, her Skype goes out and

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they're like, we shouldn't have had this person on. And so the anchors get into a little bit

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of a like, are we going to invite her back or just say no, it's clear. I mean, if you're

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looking at the video, like her video freezes and the sound becomes like spotty and her

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and yeah, she's an idiot. And so she believes that there's a conspiracy going on and I cut

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her off. It was a scaler. It claimed that it was a tech. They claimed that. So she's

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going to complain to Alex about that. Sure. So Australian invited me, how kind of them

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I would, I put up a tweet, okay. A couple of weeks ago, I put up a tweet. Once I found

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out that they were going on another lockdown for six weeks, they were not even letting

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people go outside of their homes. Okay. Except for maybe essential services here and there.

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And they said they were having a wall of steel, meaning police forces all the way outside

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the city of Melbourne to make sure nobody comes in or out. So I put up a tweet defending

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their individual liberties saying, Hey, this is like prison. This is basically prison,

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you know, Australians fight, fight for your liberties. So the Australian.

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While her Skype comes back, let's go ahead and roll the video of her on Australian television.

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When they cut it off, claiming a technical difficulty, here it is. Wow. That's hilarious.

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That is audio of someone slipping on a banana. Oh my God. There's a conspiracy. Oh my God.

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In the middle of complaining about a conspiracy to cut her off. You demonstrate that your

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Skype is terrible. Exactly. You can't hit new ISP. God damn it. Oh, you probably can't

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because you're in one of the areas where your team allowed them to monopolize everything.

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This is pretty delightful. Oh man, that's great. Because she's gone and they can't get

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her back on the line. Alex has no other choice but to play the video. It's a conspiracy.

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He plays the video of her on the Australian. Of course he does. We also have the president

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of Pangenia. I think the link is dropping out because I don't think we should be giving

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her any air time. Come on. That is ridiculous. Ali, you knew that the video was happening

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last night. You can't then just say, oh, I don't like what she's saying now. She has

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a right to repeat. Do you know that there are, there are complete whack jobs in this

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country who think the same thing. So was that her Skype breaking up like it just did or

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were they cutting her off? I know that the United Nations censors people. Come on, Alex.

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You even said it. You shouldn't have said it. You have to play it off. Now they're cutting

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her off from my show. You got to play it. You got to play it. Alex doesn't. He like,

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I will say, you know, it's a, it's a rare, give it up for the Smolley Pirates moment,

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but he does say, I think it was just her Skype. Even Alex has to be like, yeah, well you did

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it on my show. So I was going to give you a pass on that one, but then you dropped out

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your Skype kept working. We could have spun a conspiracy about Australia here, but unfortunately

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you completely shit the bed. You're too shitty for me. I love it. I love it. Oh man. Alex

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can't get Deanna back on. So he has to go to calls. He goes back to calls and uh, this,

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this is, I, I was like, Oh, Oh, okay. If we're able to get her Skype stabilized, we'll get

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her back with us right now. Let's go ahead and talk to another caller. Let's go ahead

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and speak with Jacob in Georgia. Thanks for holding. Go ahead. Hello? Yes, sir. Go ahead.

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Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. All right. We have been doing this for eight years. Here's what I'm

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going to do. I'm just going to say your name. I have to, I have to applaud Alex. Like he

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doesn't end up blowing up about this. Like it's, it's some little form of progress. Sure.

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Cause when he said, okay, like at the end I was like, Oh no. Oh no. He's about to go

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off air. Yeah. There was that long pause. There was the, can you hear me? Oh no. Those

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are like triggers for him. Exactly. So he talks to this guy and I don't really even

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give a shit what he has to say, but this is like Mike down for this because this was so

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funny. Oh wait. He is complaining. He's complaining about, uh, this college. He goes to Kennesaw

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state in, in, uh, Georgia and apparently you have to get like a temperature reading band

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or something like that. I don't know if this is true or not, but whatever. Anyway, this

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caller is saying that he's heard that that might happen. This is very funny. I'll talk

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about that with our guest in a moment. What do you make of the New Jersey governor just

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mandated the temperature tracking armbands. And you're saying you're hearing that at college

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in Georgia. Yeah. It's crazy, man. Does your wife have something to say? He's gone. Deanna

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Lorraine is here. We're flying her to Austin next week. Tell us the show with me a couple

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of days. Oh boy. Don't think that was that guy's wife. I think that was his mom. Oh Dan,

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you're going to kill me. You put those back to back. I've just, I go through this chronologically.

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Oh man. It was a tough end to the show. Oh man. Yeah. You get off of this like really

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weird self contradicting, uh, interview with Deanna Lorraine and then someone's mom tells

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them to hang up the phone. Used to hear that a lot on Loveline. You know, like back in

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the day, listening to Loveline, there would be calls a lot of the time, but that made

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more sense because it was like late at night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah, that's really

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funny. I got the phone. Does your wife have something to say? Um, this guy is like a freshman

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in college. He's probably not married. It's possible. It's not, it's not impossible. Could

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be married. I'm using context clues. One of them is that he said he's from Georgia, so

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he's going to KSU in Georgia, presumably living with the parents. Right. You know, that's

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an in state situation. Sounds right. Um, yeah, I don't know. I can't imagine. That's so funny.

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Uh, that's so funny. That's so funny. So he does get Deanna back on and they have a stupid

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interview that I don't think is worth listening to. So we get to the 13th here on Thursday

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and Alex is super excited that the trending on Twitter has continued and he continues

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just to say that they're taking them out of context. So Alex Jones has been number one

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on Twitter for most of the day. And what they do is they take a one minute clip out of a

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five minute video. We're about to show you and they edit it down to a minute. So it doesn't

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make sense. And they say Jones just randomly showed up at a park entrance and started yelling

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at teenagers who had done nothing wrong. No, that sounds right. No, that sounds right.

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No, it wasn't random. Oh, that's fair. I would say it's not random. Yeah. Although in a sense

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it is still random because it's just a coincidence that his wife was sure. Yeah.

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I mean, I think I would replace random with pointless. Yeah. Pointless is a good word.

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Yeah. Yeah. So Alex gets on the show here and I'm noticing an evolution of a lie and

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that is, so there was that 2010 Rockefeller report about various situations that could

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come up trends in the world visa vie the developing world and technology. One of those scenarios

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was titled lockstep and other was stronger together. There were four scenarios that they

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laid out and tried to conceptualize challenges that would come up in the world. Alex initially

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took this as not a bunch of scenarios, but in fact it's only the one that looks kind

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of similar in some ways superficially cause there's an outbreak in it. And so that one

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was the lockstep one. So he, he, he, his first volley was ignoring the context of the document.

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Sure, sure, sure, sure. The second evolution of it was to say that it was a plan lockstep

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was the plan, right? There was the Rockefeller 2010 plan lockstep document, which is nonsense.

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And now there's the third evolution of it where is he's just making up quotes from it.

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And this is directly from the Rockefeller foundation lockstep 2010 quote under the guise

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of a pandemic, we will create a prison state on a planetary scale. That is not in there.

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That's a quote from David Ike's website. Like that's not, I don't even know if it's original

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content on David Ike's website, but like, yeah, that's someone else's editorial discussion

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of this document as opposed to being actually from it. This is just made up shit. This is,

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this is sloppy. I wish more, I wish more of those simulations on what could happen just

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included like, well, obviously if this happens, we're going to create a police state. I mean,

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why wouldn't we do that? Yeah, well that's the only option for us. Yeah. So we've got

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some big guests coming up today. Sure. This was underwhelming. Don't ever, you start off

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by saying big guests or whatever is no run run. This is not bad. We have a bunch of big

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guests today. Jay Dyer is going to be interviewing very well known top of the food chain. I'm

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comedian Sam Hyde, top of the food chain. Here's somebody who worked in comedy a bit,

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you know, maybe not in the upper echelons, but somebody who you and I are both people

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who have, you know, wanted to do stand up as a career. And by virtue of that, you know,

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you familiarize yourself with the top act. Yeah. Certainly doing stand up all the time,

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you end up like I was on the festival circuit a bunch. I went around, I met a lot of comics,

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met famous people, talk to famous people. Would you consider someone by the name of

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Sam Hyde to be the top of the food chain? Well, let me put it to you this way. All right.

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It took me a good seven years before I got on to the food chain. The bottom level of

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the food chain is where I was and I think I knew just about everybody there. He wasn't

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even there. So I'm going to go with no. Sam Hyde is like a comedian, but I think, I think

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it's more along the lines of like sketch and prank kind of stuff. Also, he's the guy who

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like his picture is used often on like 4chan whenever there's a mass shooter, they'll use

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a picture of him as like fake identifying of the shooter. It's sort of a meme. He's

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like a, he's like a basic looking white dude. A picture of him has become a meme that's

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used to try and trick people into thinking they've identified a shooter. So often that

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I, so that's how we got here. He's a food chain. Yeah. Okay. We're not going to listen

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to any of that. I just thought it was funny to top of the food. Yeah. So we've got another

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big guest though. Ali Alexander, journalist and analysis expert will be joining us to

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talk about Kamala Harris and just how evil she is and what's up with her. That's really

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exciting. What is up with her? You're not going to learn that from Ali Alexander. What's

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up with her? Anyway, Ali Alexander is going to be coming up a little bit later. That's

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really fun. I'd like to remind you that he was the third wheel on the fortune tricycle

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that was a Laura Loomer, Jacob Wall, the luminaries, and Ali Alexander were the three people who

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made that documentary where they tried to prove that Ilhan Omar was married to her brother.

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It was a real embarrassment. That's the sort of thing you should never really be able to

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live down, but somehow in Ali Alexander's world, move forward. Turns out he's shaken

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off a whole lot more than that. We'll get into it in a little bit. I believe it. I'm

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going to pitch Laura Loomer this. Everybody knows about the squad. That's the trick. You

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got to get a good name. You got to get some good branding going. Add a couple of more

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women. Call yourself the luminaries. Done. That's not bad. Done. Won. Won every election.

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New political party. Her, Deanna Lorraine. That one green lady who's a QAnon thing. Toss

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her in there. I'm a fan of Before Sunrise, Before Sunset, Waking Life. You're a huge

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Ethan Hawke guy. I am a big Ethan Hawke guy from way back. I also like Richard Linklater.

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Of course. I think he's done some great work. Some of it maybe I'm a little bit iffy on.

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I think Boyhood could have been better, but I respect what he was trying to do. He did

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Coffee and Cigarettes, right? No, that's Jarmusch. That's Jarmusch. That's right. I liked Scanner

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Darkly. Scanner Darkly is pretty good. Slacker is good. Slacker is pretty good. He's got

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a good track record. He's a good filmmaker. Unfortunately, two of his movies include Alex

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Cameos in the role he was born to play, which is Crazy Guy with Bullhorn. We got to redo

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those. If Linklater isn't working right now on doing a Tiny Bullhorn, then I don't know

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what the fuck is the point anymore. Waking Life with Rotoscope. Yeah, you can do it.

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You could totally do that. You could totally do it. Go in there. Director's Cut only changed

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Tiny Bullhorn. Linklater. Wait, Scanner Darkly was Rotoscope too. Both of them are totally

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doable. Totally doable. Linklater, you know, you're my boy. You're my boy. If you don't

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know about us by now, what are you doing? We have one request from your big fan. So

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anytime Alex brings up Linklater, I always like to try and like, if it's worthwhile,

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I'll discuss it. And this actually, this created such an awesome mental picture. One time,

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Rick Linklater was at my office and he's a nice guy, intellectual liberal, you know,

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at a certain level. And Rick's defended me when I've been attacked by everybody else.

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But he goes, you read Bertrand Russell? And he got the book. He's like, he's the greatest

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liberal ever. I'm like, did you read where he said set up world government and kill almost

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everybody to end war? And he goes, Rick's like, well, I have seen some of those writings.

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Very interesting. You know, I, I've, I've got to get going.

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I don't know. I just remember that. Yeah, sure. You know, Dan, you are bringing some

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bangers today. That's fantastic. Yeah. There's some really funny stuff happening. It's not

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really meaty. This is bluff and I love it. Yeah. I just love the idea of like Richard

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Linklater and Alex being there and Alex is like, Hey, you know, uh, that book that you're

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really into is all about genocide. I got to go. I, no, no, no. Here's the thing. I kind

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of think he's accidentally accurately pulling his collar. Like, Oh no, Alex is onto us about

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Bertrand Russell. Here's the thing. I think this is an honest, accurate representation

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of what happened. He's just changing the tone because here's how it sounds to me. He says

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all that shit to link later and link later goes like, yeah, you know, I've heard some

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of that stuff. I'm going to have to go. I got to go. I shouldn't have cast you in my

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booth. I thought you were a fun weirdo. Whoops. Now you're a Dick. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, Alex

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is a free speech absolutist free speech. He does not left an SJW sensitive and they want

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to cancel all the comedians for making jokes to remove all people who disagree with him.

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Alex is upset about bill Burr. I think bill Burr is a good comedian. He's against cancel

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culture and he's got courage to come out and criticize it in this landscape. I mean, in

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a world of cowards, a person with any courage is a hero and that's a scary thing. And when

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the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there

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is Liberty, as Thomas Jefferson said, he did this whole special on Netflix and he got into

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depopulation and he said, let's just say what we want. We need to depopulate the earth.

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I swear in my experience, Alex complains about comedians jokes so much more than the imaginary

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PC SJWs yells about who are apparently out to kill the first amendment. Oh my God. Michelle

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Wolf makes a joke about getting an abortion and Alex wants her damn to hell. Bill Maher

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jokes about basically anything and Alex pretends it's the official democratic party platform

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being revealed. And now I guess bill Burr said something Alex doesn't like. I don't

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care. Don't care. I do want to say though that that is a fake Thomas Jefferson quote.

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Yeah, I was going to say I already knew that one right off the right off the bat. The library

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at Monticello includes, this is one of their highlighted spurious quotes. They're often

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attributed to Jefferson, but there's no evidence he ever said or wrote that they concluded

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that this quote is actually from a 1914 debate against socialism delivered by John Basil

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Barnhill that has been famously attached to Jefferson as well as at other times, Thomas

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Payne and Samuel Adams. Yeah, I would assume that's because no one cares about John Basil

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Barnhill. They just want this to sound important. Yeah, I don't think, what did, uh, what did

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Barnhill do? Didn't he had a 1914 debate against socialism. Did he own, uh, did he own the

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cults in Baltimore? Is that what happened? No, I'm not sure. So he would not like my

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Andrew Jackson bit, Dan Jordan. I don't think he would like that. Somebody send him my Andrew

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Jackson bit. I want him to complain about me. That'd be fun. Dan, you said that I've

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been bringing bangers. You have, and I think that a lot of this has been pretty good, but

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this was the clip. Actually, this next clip is the one that I thought was going to be

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like really the most fun. And now I'm really self-conscious about it. This I think is incredibly

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funny. It's a little bit longer. It's a little bit drawn out, but Alex is trying to promote

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his upcoming rally and things fall apart. We're gonna be out there with our American

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flags, old glory, Texas flag, you name it. And that will be tomorrow. When I went down

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there this Sunday to the what's known as the Hill of life. It's like a three quarters.

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When I went down there this Saturday, it's a quarter mile Hill. When I went down to the

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Hill of life, this again, I'm cutting a promo. I have tendencies to, when they're doing stuff,

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I have a tendency to watch the screen and look for the address so I can give it out.

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And I just don't have the address. I'm not going to do this now. We'll do it later. Just

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shut it down. Not a big deal. It's for the next segment. Please print me the address

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because I don't see it on the screen and I can't tell them the address. So I'll do that

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next segment. I'm going to rebroadcast for a minute though. I need to take a break here.

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Stuff sometimes it's not the crew's fault. There's just, I'm like the director of my

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own show. And so it's just very frustrating. The crew does a great job. And then I need

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something and I can't tell you the address if I don't have it. And so, or maybe I was

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missing it on the screen. So I'm just going to get that. It's too late now. Okay. And

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then we're just going to do this for a minute. I'm going to take a break. The problem is

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I'm also shooting promos during the segments. I may stop during the segment breaks because

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I just, I need to get refocused. I need to get reset. And I had a lot I was going to

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say and a lot I was going to do. And sometimes I go a little astray on that and then we have

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a problem. So I'm going to go to a very special, special report here. Okay. All right, Alex.

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I mean, maybe you shouldn't be directing your own show. The big problem is you buddy. Yeah.

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It seems like it. I would say that watching your face, you thought that the funny part

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was that he couldn't remember what day he went down to this Hill. No, I knew that was

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fun. I knew we were, I knew we were starting off good, but that really, that snowballed

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into something real great. Yeah. Dude, just fucking record it after your show. Everything

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is in there. He can't be bothered to do any work. That's not just doing his show. He's

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too busy directing his show. He's trying to record this promo that they can then use as

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a like big thing to get people to come to the rally on his show so he can double down

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on the time. And because someone didn't give him the fucking address or whatever, it all

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falls apart and he's got to go off air. He wastes like a half hour of his show because

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of this, because he's got to use the next segment now to record the, Hey, come to my

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rally thing. Haven't you heard that old saying, you got to miss two birds with one stone.

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It's wild. I mean, so much of this show has been this fuck up him talking about how everyone's

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making him go viral and they're taking them out of context. And then, uh, he just, he,

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he, uh, comes back from a break and he's got a different song that he's really into. Okay.

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He plays the whole song

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to Bonanza next. Oh, they're disapproving. Oh, come on. You missed it. They want to brand

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you with their inoculation. So teach some Americans to submit.

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And that is the anthem of the Democrats and the globalist.

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I didn't even get to any of the news. I went off on a jag about the UN and world government

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must be a number one on Twitter and the deception around it. And then put up the fake story

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that I sent child porn to the Sandy hook families. I mean, these people are the scum of the earth.

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Do your job. I love their punchline. I didn't get to any of the news. I did just spend the

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last four minutes singing rawhide, but I ran out of time to get to the news. Damn. I just

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did an amazing karaoke version of rawhide. I fucked up, tried to promote a rally cause

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no one gave me the address that wasted a whole bunch of time. Real ton of time. Really should

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have got to the news. Really should have. Oh, well maybe there'll be next time when

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I do this. What are we going to run? What are we going to run out of news? What do you

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guys need the news today? Come on. There'll be some more tomorrow. No more time for news

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though. Cause we got to get Ali Alexander in here. And actually, I mean this, this guy,

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he, uh, like I said, he directed, I believe he was the director. He was at least the third

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wheel in that documentary with Loomer and wall, which is, I can't stress this enough.

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Great. Amazing. Never be able to recover from that kind of embarrassment. It's awesome.

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But he actually, I think he's a, there's a danger to him. We ought to be really nervous

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and that's why I'm so passionate that team Trump needs to collapse the ticket on the

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other side. Tell the progressives and tell the left the truth about these authoritarian

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mass incarceration, war on drug bigots, these corporatists on the left, and we need the

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right and the left to come together behind either a president Kanye West or a president

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Donald Trump infinity trillion infinity agree with you.

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Ali Alexander is expressing here. The only real viable strategy Trump has to win outside

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of authoritarian moves he's already making, like attacking the postal service, which everybody

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should be very worried about. It's great. You can just turn off the mail. That's good.

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Not good. In order for Trump to increase his share of votes, you know, he'll be wasting

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his time trying to convince anyone to vote for him. Oh yeah, that'd be stupid. He's got

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whatever votes he has and the rest of the people aren't going to be persuaded. No. Thus,

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the best use of effort is to focus on making sure the other side has as little support

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as possible. And as Alexander very astutely points out, there's a real opportunity to

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erode the support for the democratic ticket among the progressive and further left contingents

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in the country. Right, because the democrats are shit. Well, it's a real issue that the

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democratic ticket is going to have to face and deal with. And it would be an issue with

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or without anyone in the fascist right wing trying to raise the issue. Of course. The

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strategy that Alexander is laying out is to exacerbate those feelings of disenchantment

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or disappointment with the ticket in hopes of suppressing the vote enough to put Trump

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over the top. Yeah. The real tell in there is that he considers Kanye a serious candidate.

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That's kind of a sign that Ali is a shithead. The stuff that's been coming out about that

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whole farce of a campaign is starting to look real shady. And even, you know, if the talk

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about him meeting with Kushner is overblown, you still kind of have to look at his idea

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of running as an attempt to fuck with the election. Kanye wouldn't be able to get on

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enough state ballots to actually win, so the act of running would literally only have the

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effect of redirecting some votes and being a huge publicity stunt for Kanye himself.

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Very smart. Anyone pretending to be a serious political commentator who's even entertaining

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the idea of him running is showing their cards that they're a fucking idiot, which is a fair

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description of Ali Alexander, who again is involved with Jacob Wall and Laura Loomer.

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They're either showing their cards that they're an idiot or they're showing their cards that

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they need something. You know, it's either I do want the tickets split or I just want

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the entertainment of being able to cover Kanye West as much as possible. You know, like that's

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the only reason. And I think in terms of like what he's saying about, you know, the progressives

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and the left, it's like, yeah, that that's that is not that is a conversation that is

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valid on the left. It's not an argument that's valid coming from the right because their

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candidate is much worse. Yeah. Them trying to disenchant to the left with the Democratic

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candidate is solely to suppress the Democratic vote as opposed to conversations about, you

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know, Harris's record or Biden's record on the left. I think you can have conversations

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about them not being the candidate that you want, but there are productive ways in which

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you can hopefully push them closer to being in line with the social priorities that you

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have. Sure. And the policy priorities. I think you can have that conversation. And it's a

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challenge that the left and the Democratic Party are going to have in this election season.

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But it isn't a challenge that's insurmountable. It's not something that I think. No, I agree

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with you that it's not insurmountable. But the challenge when presented from someone

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like Ali Alexander is insurmountable. Right. Because that is solely to be disruptive, destructive.

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And I think that there is a really important difference between those two, because sometimes

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they can look similar. Right. And I think I think as the election gets closer, people

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have to keep a pretty good sense or try and keep an eye on that. It's going to be tough

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more than anything else to differentiate between people who are shit-stirring and people who

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are having a good faith conversation. And that's due entirely to the Democratic Party

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being shit. Not entirely. Well, I mean, it's not entirely, but they earned those conversations

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and they don't seem to be doing anything to do otherwise. So it's one of those it's one

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of those circumstances where it is very easy to to jump in as a shit-stirrer. Right. As

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a shit-stirrer, because you can just look you can walk in. Well, I mean, I mean, what

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is it the what's that expression like perfect is the enemy of good. Sure, sure, sure, sure.

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And the the the expectation being framed from the right of like this isn't your perfect

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candidate is the enemy of better than Trump. Of course. And I hate I hate even having conversations

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about this sort of stuff because I don't want to ever be a voice that's saying like, hey,

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if you have concerns about X, Y or Z candidate, you should suck it up and shut up. Yeah, because

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I don't believe that. And I don't agree with that. Of course. At the same time, I think

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that realistically, there are only two possible winners of the next election. And one of them

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is nightmarish and the other is not as good as we want. But ideally and hopefully someone

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who would be receptive to messages and social protest. So anyway, yeah, I mean, it's complicated.

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I don't I don't know. Anyway, the point is, I think you're right about the, you know,

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it being very difficult to differentiate between pot stirrers and people who are making good

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faith arguments. Yeah. And I think one of the best things you can do is just say, OK,

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are you somebody who is a known pot stirring fuck and then totally completely discount

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any kind of argument that's coming from that. Like if Mike Cernovich has something to say

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about the Democratic ticket. Yeah. Go ahead and ignore that. Yeah. It's not coming from

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a place of concern about keeping people honest. Right. It's coming from a place of trying

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to sew problems. And, you know, in that vein, Allie Alexander, somebody who maybe you don't

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know who that guy is, maybe being involved in that documentary with Laura Loomer. Exactly.

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So it's up to Alex to give some credits. Allie Alexander talks to the White House all the

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time. He's a high level political analyst, really smart guy. There's one thing that's

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missing now. Alex's credits for Allie Alexander. I'm not talking about the embarrassing documentary.

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You see, it turns out that Allie Alexander didn't always go by that name. He was formerly

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known as Allie Ackbar. According to an investigation conducted by Breitbart Uncovered, Allie was,

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quote, convicted in 2007 of charges of credit card fraud and theft between the amounts of

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fifteen hundred and twenty thousand dollars. That's how he got the gig at the White House.

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Allie was sentenced to a suspended sentence, and from there he moved into his mother's

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home where he began to blog. Get off the phone! He started an organization called Vice and

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Victory and then a group called the National Bloggers Club. According to a 2012 article

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on Yahoo News, the National Bloggers Club was started with seed money provided by right-wing

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billionaire Foster Freeze, who also bankrolled the launch of Turning Point USA. Great. According

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to an article in the Examiner from July 2012, the National Bloggers Club was, quote, listed

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as a tax-exempt 501c3 status until this writer and others contacted the IRS and learned that

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the organization did not have legal right to claim such status. Well... This, some might

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suspect, looks super shady. Hey! This was not the only entity that Allie would be associated

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with that had some sketchy relationships with claiming tax-exempt status. He was associated

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with the American Liberty Alliance, which is a Tea Party website, back in 2008. Here's

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a little bit from an article about this in Crooks and Liars. Quote, starting off as ALA's

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technology consultant, Akbar would eventually become chairman of ALA's board, spending much

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of his time collecting non-deductible donations. Yes, despite claiming to be in the application

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process for 501c4 status in August 2009, ALA eventually was embarrassed into posting the

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following caveat on their website, though not on their donation page. Quote, the American

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Liberty Alliance is not a 501c3, 501c4, or a political action committee. We are not registered

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as a non-profit and we do not raise funds as such. Yet, they incorporated under the

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name American Liberty Alliance a non-profit corporation. Well, it's a good name, Dan.

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It is catchy. It's a good name. Now, from there, Allie rose through the ranks in some

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circles of Tea Party grifting. Along with a lot of those folks, he decided to make the

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jump to Trump, and that was a profitable decision. Politico reported on a $60,000 donation that

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the political action committee he advises got from Robert Mercer in the run-up to the

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2016 election. Also getting tons of money from the Mercers around this time was Milo

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Yiannopoulos, who probably would still be on that bankroll if BuzzFeed hadn't exposed

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a very serious pattern of Nazi behavior on Milo's part, and that whole thing about his

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distasteful appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast. Anyway, my point is that I don't see much

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substance to Allie Alexander, outside of him being a convicted felon whose crime involved

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fraud, who seemingly made a bit of a career out of being a con artist in Republican political

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circles, which seems exceedingly easy. What are you just gonna not... Look, I feel like

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once you get... If you join the Republican Party at a certain level of fame, they just

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introduce you to the grift, you know? Like, if you're there, what are you doing not grifting

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people? And if you're good at manufacturing some kind of perception of buzz, people will

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fall for it. Teach the grift. I think that seems to be what the picture I've been able

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to gather. I don't know. I mean, like, if you exist in a place where, like, you can

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hang out with Laura Loomer, Jacob Wall, and Alex Jones, and you don't worry about shooting

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your credibility in the foot, you clearly live in a place where credibility is not a

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relevant concern for you. Dan, do you realize the bullet that other people have dodged?

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I am a straight white male with a failed comedy career. I should be on Fox News after dark

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or whatever with a great gut feel. I should be grifting right now. You should be telling

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people that you're on the top of the food chain. I should be grifting! Why am I not

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grifting, Dan? I don't know. Oh, that's a terrible idea. So, Allie gets into some conspiracies

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here. And my note on this is this is incoherent nonsense. And I was trying to make sense of

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it in the context that he was providing. And I just, this is just lunacy. I gotta tell

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you, you just can't help but reconcile political theory with the Bible and come to these conclusions

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that, oh my gosh, you know, there really is a deep state. Oh my gosh, the Clintons and

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the Bushes have a relationship that dates back to Arkansas. Oh my gosh, when this money

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goes missing, what is it funding? Oh my gosh, when Biden looked like he was going to pick

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Whitmer or Klobuchar, the BLM riots started. The Soros family boxed Biden into Kamala Harris.

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I got to tell you, it's not, it's not lunacy to point out what looks inevitable unless

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we wake up the population. And what I tell people now is do not be a reactionary. Do

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not just say the opposite of the left. Believe in something. Believe in order. Align yourself

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with God and then fight for that because what people need to understand, this is the most

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important thing I'll ever say, is that the Marxists aren't like the left. It's a spiritual

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thing for them. What is I, I, I sincerely don't really even understand what the goal

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or point of that was. I mean, what does that have to do with the Bible? You're just spinning

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like a weird conspiracies about stuff. I don't, I don't, I guess the, the only thing that

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I can pull from the Bible that he might be talking about is obviously a revelation, right?

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It has to be, and people are all, it has to be end times. Yeah. I mean, yeah, this sort

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of like really politically charged, uh, uh, uh, Christianity is almost all revelation

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based. They just don't understand that the book of revelation wasn't optional. You know,

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like at no point in time was God in the book of revelation just being like, but if you

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guys work really hard to avoid this, we're going to do it. I'm sorry. Look, Hey, you

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guys are on the path to revelation right now. That's a good point. But if you could just

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listen, wake people up and we won't need to worry about that whole apocalypse thing. Yeah,

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I guess that is an inherent weirdness. Yeah, but I don't understand. I don't understand

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the point that he is trying to make outside of the message that comes across, which is

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all these people are evil and has something to do with the Bible. Right? So there's, there's

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this zealotry, there's this, this religious zealotry that is underlying his politics clearly,

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which I think is bad. Yeah. If a part of your religion involved saying, don't look into

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it. I'm not cool with it. Well, here's, you know, here's on me. You should look into,

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okay. Witches. We must ask for God's intervention and we must walk blindly in faith. We must

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say that the global list, you said you wanted to wake people up out in the open. They're

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calling on Satan. And the one thing that it wants to do is to call on Christ. They are.

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Think about this, Alex. You've been in this for more than 25 years. I've been in this

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for 13 years. Have we ever seen this many, uh, witch covens, pray and curse and hex together?

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No. Have we ever seen this many random blood sacrifices? General Flynn came out and said,

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it is Satan manifesting through communist. We must call on Christ. It's there. You people

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are extremists, Dan, all these goddamn witches. Have you ever seen this many witches? So many,

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this many witches hexing together. And have you heard of so many secret blood rituals

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in forest? So many goddamn blood rituals. It might be close to the blood line. And it's,

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it's definitely not lunacy to specifically suggest that witch covens, generally speaking,

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go to the forest under the full moon and drink blood. That's not lunacy, Dan. Also, that's

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the definition of lunacy. Also, Ali says that he's been in this for 13 years, which would

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be what, two 2003 to 2007. Oh, wait, that's the year you got convicted of. Oh, is that

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the year that he got convicted and he had to switch careers? That's odd convicted of

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credit card fraud. Anyway, um, this is the last clip here. And, uh, I mean, these people

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are just like, if, if we weren't so desensitized to this and you, if you looked at this just

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in a vacuum, you'd be like, this is sensational, um, outrageous political belief. Okay. So

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this is like fourth episode stuff. I'd lose my shit. Maybe. Yeah. The notion that you're

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talking about, like, uh, you're, you're, you're weaving your political beliefs and your political,

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um, uh, designs with our enemies, our witches and blood rituals in the forest. And we must

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call on God to vanquish them like that. That is outrageous. No, so many witches. I don't

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know. Dan, I think it's perfectly reasonable to take someone at their word when they say

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that there are so many goddamn witches, witches, so many witch covens, witches, get ready.

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I mean, it's, they've, they've infiltrated even the good. Remember, they can't create

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a contrast with us. They must infiltrate us in order to deceive our believers soon. Don't

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wait a year, come back and get into the, the election and all the stuff coming down and

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more on Kamala Harris. I know you're ready to expose her. We didn't get that today. Come

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back next week. Thank you so much. Very impressed. Very impressed. If you say something like,

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have you ever seen this many witch covens around and then somebody's like, Hey, listen,

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we got to have you back on to talk about the election. Listen, those are some political

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opinions I want to hear. Listen, uh, Ali, um, I used to know this guy named Larry. Um,

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he was a mope and he talked about witches a bunch and I really enjoyed it, but he kind

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of got out of pocket and I don't want to talk. Congress, man. Well, we got over that, but

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then he just got embarrassing. I don't, I don't want to have him back on, but I do like

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witches. Can you fill that hole? Are you my witch guy? Can you be my witch guy? 1-800

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witch guys. Call us. I wish, I wish I would have, I wish I would've got that number. Oh,

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that would've been great. Anyway. Um, this was a bit more humorous than I expected it

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to be. I mean, there's a lot of fun in there and I'm glad there was that. Um, I know that

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there's been a little bit of stagnation with Alex, but I want to, I want to try and comfort

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the audience and let them know that we, you know, we've do it, but doing a lot of present

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day stuff. Um, but we have some plans for some really exciting stuff that's coming down

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the pike. Um, in terms of other, other more substantive, more meaningful, uh, content

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than just laughing at Alex's dumb ass. So get, uh, get excited with that. Hold on for

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a moment. And that will be, will be upon us. We're working on it. But, uh, until, uh, the

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next time, uh, we'll be back, but we have a website. We do have a website. It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep. We'll be on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledgefight.net. Go to bed Jordan.

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We are on Facebook and if you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your

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area to help out people doing God's work right now. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm

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DZX Clark. I'm Daryl Rundis. I'm raw hide. What? That doesn't even make sense. It's not

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a person. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a first

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time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.