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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating

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knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray

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I have great respect for knowledgefight

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys

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You guys saying we are the bad guys, knowledgefight

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Dan and Jordan, knowledgefight

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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler

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I need, I need money

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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler

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Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and

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Stop it, Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas

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It's time to pray

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding us

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Hello Alex, I'm a big fan, I'm a huge fan

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I love your work

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knowledgefight

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knowledgefight.com

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I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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Whoa, that was intense

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Yeah it was too intense

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Is that three offs?

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Scale it down

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Too much, okay, fair enough

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There's a podcast where we like to scale it down a little bit

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And drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Yes?

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Yes

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I did

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Oh boy

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Right out the gate, something is wrong

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I don't know what it is

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No, I think this is great

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I think this is great

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Okay

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I just, I got a little overexcited up top

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Did you start doing hot yoga?

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I did not, I did not

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I just exercised more recently, so now I got all that energy going on

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Seriously, yeah

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You gotta start taking sedatives, something

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I don't know what it is, but that is not okay

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Gotta start taking sedatives

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That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me

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I'm used to you yelling all the time and even

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Somehow that was

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You know what it was?

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It was a second into our show, it was too much

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Too much, alright, fair enough

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This is a podcast again

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What's up? You have your hand up?

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Can I ask a question?

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What's up, Jordan?

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I got my hand raised

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Dan?

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Yeah

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What's your bright spot today?

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Why don't you start, I'm gonna go

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Okay, my bright spot is I finally bit the bullet

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And I was done with all the side quests

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And you decided to start yelling

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And I finished Horizon Zero Dawn

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Oh, that's great

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I played the final quest

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You played the Frozen Wilds

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Yeah, played a lot of it

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The DLC part

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Haven't finished all of that, but I played a lot of it

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I finally played the main storyline

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And it's fantastic

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Great ending, it's gonna be great

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I don't think it's gonna be out until next year

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Probably the sequel

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The sequel?

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But that's good because I don't want to buy

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I don't want to buy a PlayStation 5

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Have you seen how big they are?

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Yeah, I don't know

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I always get really mad whenever there's new systems out

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Because it's like, this is how they scam you

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They lure these games that you want to play

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And you have to buy the system in order to play them

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And then they're obsolete and there's a new system

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I turned into a cranky old man

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Everyone else is so excited about the new system

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And I'll tell you what, beta was a better format

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It was

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You had a time stamp on it, it was way better

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Everything past Atari is a mistake

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It was a failure, yeah

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That's good, congratulations

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For you and Aloy

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She's doing great

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So here's my bright spot

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And it dovetails into the year of the

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So we are now 152 seltzers into the year of the seltzer

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And that is a moment that deserves a little bit of a celebration

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So that's why it's my bright spot

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It's a milestone

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150 seltzers, that's crazy

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Yeah, that's really amazing

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In like two months

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Yeah, that's a lot of seltzer

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That's a lot of seltzer

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And I think that there's some people out there

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There's some people who are giving good natured ribbing

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About not liking seltzers themselves

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And I'm like, hey fine

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This isn't going to become a seltzer podcast

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This is just the thing that I'm doing this year

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To bring some sort of normalcy into the proceedings

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Otherwise we're just going to be sitting here talking about Alex Jones all the time

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It's going to be weird

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Yeah, it's terrifying

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There's some things in life that you can still enjoy

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And I enjoy bubbly waters

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But the other thing I wanted to bring sharp focus to

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Is now 150 seltzers in

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If you look at the top five seltzers that we have

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There are two that are from Mars Brewery

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That I wouldn't have known even existed

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As they made seltzers before starting this

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Of course not

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There is a tie for fifth now

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Between two La Croix flavors

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You got lemon cello and hibiscus

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Hibiscus?

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Yes, both at the 80

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80 out of 100

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I wouldn't have ever tried either of those

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If it wasn't some sort of thing where I'm trying all of these

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Naturally

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Aha, black cherry coffee is number two on the list of the top five

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That's another one I never would have tried if I wasn't doing this

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And it's fantastic

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Absolutely

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And then three out of the top five

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Petal, the elderberry white tea flower

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Oh yeah, that was great

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It's fantastic

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I never would have known that brand existed

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I would have walked right past it at the store

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Of course

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I never would have given it a second thought

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Like some hippy dippy little water with flowers in it

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Totally, totally

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And it was so good

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And so one of the things that's really nice

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Is being able to force myself into positions

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Where I'm trying a bunch of things

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And lo and behold all of the things that I had before

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Are found wanting compared to these new things that I'm finding

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So it's sort of a microcosm of life

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A lot of times you do a little bit of an exercise

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Something that seems really stupid

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Like I'm going to drink 500 seltzers

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Now what do you know?

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You find really good ones

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That you never would have tried before

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That maybe you can incorporate into your life

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To make your life better moving forward

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Yeah, that sounds great

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There's a joy in discovery

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So that's my bright spot

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My thought though is when we get to 350 or so

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Will you be so exhausted with seltzer

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That nothing is going to break into that top five

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I don't think so

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Because there's a lot of the untapped stuff

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That I might be able to find

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Are things that are more craft in nature

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So I think a lot of the things that I might be able to find

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Within the next 200 seltzers

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Will probably be phenomenal

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Because a lot of the stuff I've been having

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Are these standard-ass lemon-lime grapefruit

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Of every brand

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And a lot of that does lead to a little burnout

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And some of that's like

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Well maybe that would have been a 60 but it's a 52 now

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Because I'm sick of grapefruit

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And certainly apologies to grapefruit

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But that's how it goes

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Also you're not a grape flavor

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They accept your apology

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But yeah, I think as we go along

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We'll find even greener pastures

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I'm wondering if we're going to get a perfect score

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Like a pitchfork 10

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I think we will

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It happens once every 500 seltzers

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It's possible

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I've been very conservative with my scoring

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But I think it's possible

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And I think if I were to guess

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Based on how this has gone so far

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It'll be something floral

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And something tea related

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Yeah that does sound

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Tea type flavor

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That does sound likely

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Yeah because those are clearly the best

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One last question

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Sure

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Before we get off the year of the seltzer

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Unless you have more to continue

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No I don't

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I have said my piece

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Okay

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Will you consider revising a score later on?

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Do you know what I'm saying?

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No

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Oh okay

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No I don't think I should

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I think that would be dirty pool

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It's set in stone

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Now let's assume that we get to the end

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And the highest score is an 86

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Okay

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Does that mean everybody gets 14 more points

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Attitude to be great on a curve?

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I think not

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I don't think so

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I think that would turn out to like

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Things that are 50 are now 64

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Yeah that's just bullshit

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No

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If it ends up in a situation where

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We get to 500

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And the highest score is 93

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Or something like that

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I think that's respectable

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So be it

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There is the platonic ideal of that 100

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Somewhere out there

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And it remains to be found

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There's always something to shoot for

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That's okay

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That's an okay conclusion

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Perhaps that's what gives meaning to life in itself

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Exactly

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Yes

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Yes the Seltzer

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The year of the Seltzer is very philosophical at this point

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Alright

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Let's get down to business Jordan

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But before we do we gotta take a moment to say

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Thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show

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So first

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Mr. Malloy thank you so much

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You are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you Mr. Malloy

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Thank you

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Habeas Dorcas thank you so much

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You are now a policy wonk

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Thank you very much Habeas Dorcas

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You are now a policy wonk

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You are now a policy wonk

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Thanks Profile

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You are now a policy wonk

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Thank you Virginia

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G-E-O-F-F

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Thank you Jeff

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Next

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Whats up

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Britney

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Thanks, Sigmund.

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Next Profile.

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Next, Virginia B. Thank you so much, you're now Policy Wonk.

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I'm a Policy Wonk!

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Next, Jeff T and that's G-E-O-F-F. Thank you so much, you are now Policy Wonk.

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I'm a Policy Wonk.

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Thank you, Jeff.

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Thanks Jeff.

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Next, Brittney, thank you so much, you're now Policy Wonk.

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I'm a Policy Wonk.

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Thanks, Brittney!

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Thank you, Brittney!

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And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a few people who donated on an elevated level.

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that very much so first emmy thank you so much you are now a technocrat next uh gravity head zero

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thank you so much you are now a technocrat and eric r and i like this a lot this is eric spelled

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a r i c i like that i like that quite dangerous spelling that's a dangerous spelling well anyway

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thank you so much you are now a technocrat i'm a policy wonk crikey mate that's fantastic have

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yourself a brew how's your 401k doing bro all right we gotta go full tilt boogie on this watson

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much gravity head zero and thank you so much eric r yes thank you very much to all of you if you're

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that very better than last time that went great i thought that was fantastic yeah so jordan today

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we're going over june 23rd and 24th 2020 this is now my autonomous zone okay but before we get to

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that uh we have one more thing one more little piece of business to take care of up top and that

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can be found underneath your notebook we got a piece of mail we got a piece of mail we did what

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is this oh shit there's a note too that it's probably stuck to the underside of your your

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notebook there all right that you can uh you can read uh all righty here we go uh a gift for you

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for jordan since you like other final fantasies mmos aren't for everyone but fighting imperialism

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oppressive theocracies and a cosmic horror that's a metaphor for boomer ideology might interest you

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from policy wonk destin oh thank you very much destin you didn't say what it was it is uh

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final fantasy 14 online i thought i did say what it is oh no maybe you didn't i just uh

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it's uh yeah the complete edition so i'm excited to play that yeah you got yourself some final

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fantasy because you talk about loving it all the time yeah that's the trick have you played 14

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no i've never played 14 i'm not an on see it's an online mmo right so that means that it's uh

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i've always played the single player single storyline kind of game i've never played an

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mmo before in my life neither have i and i'm worried for you you worried for me yes i might

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never see you again that's that's always my fear with those like giant online games that uh are

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conceivably uh never-ending yeah yeah yeah that's my fear is like i'll just this will be my life

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from now right right right i don't ever want to touch them yeah it's always worried me that it

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was going to become another job you know like i'm just existing in a space where i also have a job

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right on my off time a lot of rpgs are kind of that way i mean like at a certain point missions

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do end up feeling like chores yeah yeah yeah um but yeah yeah it's uh when you have to wait a day

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in real time to farm what are you doing at this point you know it's a little exhausting so uh now

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jordan down to business yes sir um i i'm gonna give i'm gonna just tell you this right up top

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i uh found it intensely difficult to focus on doing this show oh boy these last couple days

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all right and it's because of alex it's his fault right this show's not been good there's still some

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interesting things and some things that are definitely uh requiring of us pointing out and

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keeping track of but there's so many guests on these shows and it is just like i don't care about

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any of these people i don't care i couldn't i couldn't give a shit for a large portion of of

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the time and like sometimes the listening to his show goes quick because there's interesting things

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uh pretty regularly or he's being entertaining and yelling like a dum-dum yeah this is the

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opposite he's just not bringing it's just hours of listening to him interview people i don't care

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about that sucks yeah so that that was a little painful however we start here on the 23rd and i

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think that we start with maybe one of the more important things uh that's going on that alex

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announces on this episode that is very bad and the rollout is covered 19 it is just the excuse

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and the hysteria and that's why we're making a big announcement later in the second hour today of a

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nationwide movement the movement's gonna be called we can't breathe the website's gonna be we can't

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breathe dot news it'll be up this afternoon with a video report and a document article and an action

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plan and i will be out at the texas capital this sunday at high noon to protest the governor's

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capitulation to gavin newson and the un yes i heard that and i that really set me off on a bad

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foot because i was feeling like oh god i don't even want to do this anymore like all right i

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just see the machinations of it i see the what he's doing he's trying to trick people into getting

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mad at him to get free press there you go he's doing something explicitly distasteful and racist

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in order to be like ah pay attention to me oh i'm gonna trick you dumb libs into yelling about how

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i'm co-opting this thing insane yeah and it just feels so lame it's just it's just bad trolling

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he's doing it really but it's also incredibly offensive yeah it's it's on a it's it's the same

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yeah it's just shitty trolling but on a genocidal scale like he's describing what is essentially

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biological warfare at this point like i'm gonna go out and spread this disease to as many people

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as i possibly can as a form of trolling i mean you know like it's hard to say how many people

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like how much denial plays into it too though there so um my first and most important point

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here is that co-opting the dying words of george floyd and eric garner which have been a central

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rallying cry for the black lives matter protests that's a profoundly disrespectful and racist act

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alex is trying to protest the fact that texas's dumb dumb governor greg abbott is finally having

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to accept that his state is in trouble so he's making some moves to put health safety measures

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in place like telling people to stay at home uh putting it possibly having some mask orders and

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stuff alex and his buddies have already protested this they were the ones who were doing all those

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reopen protests like alex and owen went out there with their bullhorns back at the end of may and

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yelled about how the state needed to reopen at that point texas was reported reporting a total

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of 54 509 cases as of june 23rd that number was 120 370 cases having reported over 27 000 new cases

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in the past week alone all right so we flattened the curve alex has done his part and it's clearly

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been shown to have been dumb and a bad plan that he was pushing for on some level i think he knows

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that the best he can really do is go back out and argue that the numbers are a lie and texas

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shouldn't be afraid of clearly spiking covid case numbers and that's not going to get him the

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attention that he wants but if he flexes his racist muscles and tries to start a we can't

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breathe movement maybe just maybe he'll anger people enough to get them to cover him and give

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him that attention it's disgraceful and desperate and i hope that people don't take the bait and

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give him the free press yeah it's it's like the next day just coming out and being like after

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the i have a dream speech has been like uh i stole a dream and it's the opposite of your shit we have

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a dream of a white america yeah exactly yeah um hmm you didn't you missed the point we can't

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breathe is the name of an organization that already exists whose mission statement reads

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quote our mission is to create uh networks of multicultural groups imagining and building a

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future where people communities and races co-exist without injustice or disparities

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together we're creating deep change in the community through love and peaceful intentions

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something tells me that they're going to have a bit more traction than alex's dome

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publicity stunt so i went to his new website and it's pretty lame it's just got a bunch of

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info wars videos posted on there and then there's some posters you can download about how masks are

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bad here's the thing that i think is really funny though all of the posters include the web address

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which is we can't breathe dot news but in each poster the apostrophe is included in the word can't

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if you type the url in as it appears on those posters you will never find alex's website and

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that just seems like bad planning from a graphic design standpoint did not really put the apostrophe

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in oh yeah on all of the posters they put the apostrophe in there and like i know a lot of his

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audience does like if you look at the demographics they're older people generally like old man house

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phone oh yeah he's never gonna be able to find that website he's gonna put it in a teletype yeah

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huh i have a strong suspicion that this protest that he's trying to get going will be very

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underwhelming they plan to meet and have a prayer service at the capitol then march to the governor's

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mansion to demand him not mandate mask wearing the part that's a real little scary in their write-up

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is this quote any and all freedom lovers are welcome and then in all caps mask wearing is

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discouraged exclamation point all right guys this is dangerous and irresponsible but i'm not sure

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that there's a good way to actually discourage or stop them from holding the event i'm guessing

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turnout will be small so the best move here is probably just to ignore them and not give it the

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attention that it's clearly designed to attract the goal is baiting people into giving this

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attention as you can tell by how alex named this so the most effective response i think

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as much as it sucks because you know it's offensive i think the best response strategically

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is just like all right have your little march and just ignore it uh i propose a better response and

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that is rent four helicopters attached to them a giant glass dome during the protest to have the

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four helicopters drop the dome slowly on top of them and then we're fine and we just call it a

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day and we all just walk away and it's fine we'll put air holes in there sure we're not monsters

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put a little leaf yeah exactly we'll give them a nice little terrarium they can they can frolic

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and play however they like you have an interesting plan it's gonna run into money i'll tell you that

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yeah there is that um so alex gets to talking about some other stories and i think he's got

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a bad angle on this one uh separately hollywood is collapsing a whole bunch of producers are dying

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and committing suicide as their pedophilia comes out that is all coming up and that ties into these

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giant pedophile networks that are collapsing that are in big serious substantial trouble it is the

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pedophile network they use to blackmail and control the population now yesterday when i

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started this show i told you 24 hours left on the tail end of the big mega sale and the items that

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are still 60 to 70 percent off nailed it oh that was sweet yeah that was smooth rough oh no that

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was great oh yeah you just ah that's lubed up dan alex's uh theory here that there's a bunch of

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hollywood producers dying from suicide like i don't know if that's true but i think he's just

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embellishing the story of one recent headline about the death of steve bing who apparently

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jumped out the window of his 27th floor apartment on monday there's no connection i can find to him

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being involved in the abuse of children and alex is probably pretty close to defamatory statements

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there if he's not careful oh great a page six article about bing's death quotes a number of

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his friends who say that he'd been battling mental illness for years and quote his close friends are

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devastated about his death but sadly not surprised other discusses trouble with drugs and the fact

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that he'd uh he appeared really rich on the surface but quote he made a lot of ill-advised

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investments people imagine it's impossible to run through 600 million dollars but he did

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ah i kept going congratulations i guess i guess if you brewster's millions then you win i don't

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know i don't know what to say i mean i don't know he made kangaroo jack yeah well then he's gonna

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be in the hall of fame that's for sure from all available information this seems like a tragic

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story of someone struggling with addiction and mental illness until alex substantiates his claims

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in any way this is another example of what appears to him just be him making up details about a story

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in order for them to fit his predetermined narratives and that's really shitty yeah it's

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really really shitty it is it is a double exploitation of something that's uh multiple

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tragedies all in the same kind of situation he's exploiting uh the real pedophilia to score points

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and then exploiting a man's suicide due to a a whole host of factors including mental illness

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yeah and just moves on with his life like that's fine like we all the rest of us have to deal with

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this bullshit and he just gets to move on to the next sentence and i'm i'm not uh you know like

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unilaterally defending this guy this producer i don't know anything about him but from all the

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reporting i can find it doesn't match any of the insinuations that alex is trying to make and that

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that to me is the mark of someone who's a real pile of shit yeah but even though alex is a pile

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of shit that doesn't mean he doesn't want to surround himself with other gigantic piles of

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shit yeah and we meet the first one here great to have you here one of the only people as banned as

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i am quite an elite fraternity thank you for joining us my friend thanks for having me alex

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good to see you well you got banned on youtube let's get into that and then let's get into the

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state of affairs and trump and where you see this all going and how folks can still find you

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uncensored unfiltered at censored.tv yeah it's the last batch in the pirate ship i mean i got

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the idea from you what about banned you make your own thing they can't ban you do you know who that

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is do you recognize his voice i do not you don't no wow okay i don't recognize anybody everyone

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out there listening play along write down on a piece of paper who you think that is

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it's gavin mcginnis oh god damn it really all right so we're talking about tits the whole time

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huh no we're not talking about much uh well this episode is not going to be incredibly long because

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a lot of it is alex just repeating nonsense that he says all the time it'll be fucking boring for

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us to keep going over right and then a lot of the rest of it is just him talking to people like

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gavin mcginnis i don't give a shit no no no i'm not really interested in gavin mcginnis's hard

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hitting takes on the present let me do my impression of gavin mcginnis all right wow that's

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a great impression got thrown off youtube yeah you got him so anyway gavin's just on to promote

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his website of course him getting banned from youtube is something i'm sure he's actually been

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waiting to happen for a while because you can get some promotional attention out of it yeah

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try and get things to your own platform this is not the first time gavin's been kicked off youtube

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in december 2018 he was booted for repeat copyright violations and according to an article in the

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verge quote mcginnis had the opportunity to respond to these copyright infringement claims

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it appears he did not resolve them which is what ultimately led to the ban this is around the same

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time that glenn beck's network the blaze publicly distanced themselves from gavin most likely

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because he's an unfunny fascist piece of shit yeah that sounds right gavin went on to try and get

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attention by suing the splc there were a flurry of stories about that back in february 2019 but

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mysteriously nothing meaningful since are you sure yeah i imagine that's a sign that the case is going

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well he won against the splc yeah he took him down they they are notorious for their inability

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to deal effectively with the law so i assume yeah well obviously he got back on youtube pretty quick

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after that 2018 ban and now i guess they've banned him again this time apparently for engaging in

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speech that's considered incitement towards violence well i don't know the specifics but if

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i know anything about gavin it's probably deserved and overdue so i went to his website and what a

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and what a roster of losers he's got working for okay you've got milo alex's former employee pizza

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gate rambo joe biggs no that racist 12 year old sof uh jacob wall and laura lumer oh man what a

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jesus that's a that's a fucking the italian job level crew right there if you're talking about

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a terrarium bubble get them all in one studio for like a marathon or something sure sure sure

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uh there's also a weirdly there's a channel where a former boxer breaks down classic fights which i

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don't know why that i kind of like seems very out of place i applied with that whatever thing is you

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can't watch any content on his website unless you have a subscription okay well then go fuck yourself

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you can't watch any of these people's stuff you have to pay 10 bucks a month or 100 or 100 a year

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to get access to all the stuff that those buffoons put out oh that's a steal i can't imagine a talent

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pool like that being compelling sales pitch for people but i'll leave gavin to his hustle man

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that's what you're gonna do good luck i will give you ten dollars a month not to read anything by

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them i honestly if you if it was between giving you money and just reading one of their articles

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per day i swear to you i will give you money there is uh now i was gonna say that like if it wasn't

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behind a paywall maybe i'd do some like episodes about rambo joe biggs but i realized right before

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right before i said that sentence there's no way i'm gonna take it back you take it back not going

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to do it so anyway it's mostly just gavin whining about this and how like wow the conservatives are

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no they won't let us say things they are uh so banned uh-huh and then alex is is complaining

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about how like all these people who censor us they're the ones who do really offensive things

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and then he remembers that like ralph northam did blackface right so he's he's gonna try and

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weave that yeah yeah give it a shot this is not a success oh no exactly but i mean i never dressed

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up in blackface because i mean if you're a nazi helmet it's too it's offensive i mean and people

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have a right to do it i just never did it you you never did it but everybody that did blackface

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then says you should be banned so it's really interesting to hear alex struggle to come up with

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the reason why you shouldn't do blackface yeah and if you listen carefully you started to say it's

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too dangerous he corrected himself to say it's too offensive yeah but he was originally trying to say

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it's too dangerous so it's gonna kick your ass you do that which is kind of fun yeah also do

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yourself a favor and google gavin mcginnis and blackface i'm sure he's never done it see what

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comes up sure he's never done it fun fact gavin's done some blackface uh and also one of the times

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he was a guest on steven crowder's show the title was time for blackface all right well that's uh

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that's a time i didn't know existed also in 2014 gavin penned an op-ed titled quote what's wrong

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with blackface uh lots of things alex could hardly have chosen a worse person to be like hey you've

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never done blackface i've never done blackface neither of you and let's never let's never look

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into that guy who's publicly defended blackface repeatedly i how is it that you alex has had

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gavin on his show when you talked about how minstrel shows were like respect great they were

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a sign of respect there's no such thing as history there's no such thing as the past right it's all

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in the present and hope people forget and usually that's a good bet i mean let's be real so uh gavin

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i i can't get myself to care about his interview i the more we sort of ignore no come on old white

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men whining that's a great show it's it's not no it's not compelling that's why i love stand-up

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comedy open mics i love to hear old white man whine about things certainly that's one thing

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i miss but uh i'll have to leave it in the past um this next clip we get to another guest uh this

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is part of a powerhouse duo that's coming in uh one old face we've known for a while and one new

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new fresh face on the scene uh this is some this isn't bullshit but there's a big story at project

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veritas.com it's linked up on info awards.com facebook content moderator if someone's wearing

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a mega hat i am going to delete them for that facebook insider zack mcElroy will testify before

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congress about the facebook bias he's witness against trump supporters and conservative causes

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so we got another person with project veritas named zack the last one believed in a zionist

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occupied government that's because that one still the jury's out on that just so you know

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um so project veritas has got this new video out and this time they got a facebook insider blowing

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the whistle the guy's name is zack mackel mackelroy and according to him he was a content

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moderator for cognizant which is a company that facebook subcontracts to run moderation right

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according to his telling of the story the people he worked with at cognizant had an

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anti-conservative bias which is then being used to say that facebook has an anti-conservative bias

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this doesn't work even if we accept zack's premise that his co-workers were all out to get

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conservatives then his problem is with cognizant he should be crusading to get facebook to end

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their contract with cognizant if he was trying to do anything but that's not his angle this is

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all an attack on facebook but the problem is specific to cognizant this is not about winning

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or doing the right thing or even having a valid point this is about screaming about something that

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maybe people can turn into something else and i watched the video and legitimately the first thing

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that's brought up doesn't prove anything james o'keefe acts asks zack about the civic harassment

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queue and zach says that 75 to 80 of the posts in the queue came from republican pages the first

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problem is that there's no metrics provided on this it's just zach's estimation which i have no

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reason to believe or trust but even if he is telling the truth and this number is accurate

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that in no way proves an anti-conservative bias maybe there's more harassment being done by

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right-wing associated facebook pages maybe they're nazis there are other explanations for the

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phenomenon he's describing but the conclusion is reached that this is just more evidence that

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facebook hates republicans that's a sloppy assumption and if that's how the video is opening

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you can't really have much faith that they're going to do much better as it goes along

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so his idea though is that there would be a 50-50 reporting split if it was objective yes that's

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basically his argument yes even though it would be equal even though that's simply not a function

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of either i mean it's it's entirely dependent on human behaviors yeah uh you could have you could

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have a perfectly fair algorithm and it could be like 90 percent yeah yeah yeah because with

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i mean that's just a facet of the online republican culture that's not even necessarily

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all republicans that has nothing to do with uh the large uh section of republicans all across

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the world it's purely the ones who are very online plus they are abusive plus they never

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really get into what the civic harassment queue is whether or not it's just things that are

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automatically caught by algorithms or if it's things that are reported manually by people right

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and that could make a gigantic difference in terms of what ends up in that queue totally i have no

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idea there's not enough information in this video for me to trust any of this yeah and the rest of

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it is just kind of a basic ass veritas video where people are secretly recorded and their words taken

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out of context one woman who's interviewed seems like she may be outside a bar and she says that

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she deletes conservative posts even if they're not violating the rules you got them however

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veritas forgot to cut out the part where she says quote i don't give no fucks it's like one week

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left what are they gonna do send me to oip i don't give a fuck she's clearly someone who has quit and

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is working the last days of her job so she doesn't care if she faces consequences for her actions

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which implies that the actions she's describing would have consequences so this video actually

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proves that deleting conservative posts that are not in violation of the rules seems to be something

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that employees know is something they can get in trouble for don't don't great work don't think

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about it do not use the parts great work make you think about things that's bad uh-huh and then

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instead i i do like her quote though she's got a great quote um there's another exchange that they

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have with a fellow moderator who's saying that she leaves up posts like conservative posts even

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if they're posts that should be taken down so she's kind of like almost a sympathetic person

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who's in this and then when asked who in the office she hangs out with one of her answers is

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quote kevin he's like the insert slur for a little person that i harass about his height okay this is

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making a strong case about this harassment stuff wow yeah real good wait so they're evidence of the

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the sympathetic person is a person who would be sympathetic i would say who would be in the

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fucking queue she's the person who's doing cue behavior but at work it's very weird oh great yep

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this is just another standard as veritas pile of trash if veritas wanted to do some work that

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actually was meaningful maybe they could have been like casey newton at the verge who did an expose

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in early 2019 about the horrible working conditions that facebook moderators at cognizant were

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subjected to probably helped along by newton's reporting facebook agreed to a court settlement

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where they would pay 52 million dollars to compensate for the mental health issues

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that moderators developed from filtering horrific content on the platform keeping all that stuff off

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from an article about this quote each moderator will receive a minimum of one thousand dollars

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and will be eligible for additional compensation if they're diagnosed with post-traumatic stress

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disorder or related conditions this settlement covers 11 250 moderators that's reporting that

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matters and makes people's lives better there's been a big scandal at cognizant but you never

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would see project veritas even coming close to it they don't cover actual things they produce

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fraudulent hatchet pieces for profit thus it's not surprising that zack mcelroy has already put

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up a gofundme page he's looking to raise a hundred fifty thousand dollars oh you gotta as of the

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preparing of this episode it's been up for a day and he's already raked in over 34 000

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dollars jesus fucking christ this is the right-wing grift economy in a nutshell it's very profitable

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to be a tool of people like james o'keefe it's just not a gig that lasts very long so you get

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your payment here from this gofundme and then you are you there's nothing for you to do and then i

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guess i mean because you're got nothing else to do maybe you end up working at project veritas

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why not yeah yeah i don't i don't i don't think that that's going to look good on a resume no

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no no i don't think you're gonna step up and make it i just don't understand why conservatives

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can't demand better live videos like james o'keefe's videos all suck and they're lazy and

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half the time they wind up proving the opposite point than what he wants to make true so demand

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better don't give him your money until he makes a better movie yeah it's tough because you know he

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had the the backing and the support of andrew bright bart and you know bright bart association

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with drudge and you know so he's almost royalty in terms of like those connections and i think

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that you know just that's that's where you just just you put up you put up with trash this is

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this is transformers all over again you just can't let him get away with this well speaking

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of that guy james james uh he shows up uh the two guys both show up the whistleblower and uh o'keefe

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and so they're just talking about how like the facebook could delete all these posts

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and uh this is how uh o'keefe see uh he sums up what mark zuckerberg is doing so what zuckerberg

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has essentially done here is he's subcontracted out his his his bias to these third-party companies

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like the one that zack worked for this facebook cognizant outfit which is where all these content

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reviewers do their business because zuckerberg wants maybe plausible deniability or a degree

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of separation from the hell's angels gets banned into town they create a sub motorcycle gang that's

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all he's done is like a mafia created little sub families uh what yeah the mafia created little

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sub families facebook didn't create cognizant no they created cognizant in order to do the thing

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and then that thing proves that the thing that they did was wrong dan whatever yeah uh james

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o'keefe is making an interesting point but it relies on a large unproven assumption in order

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for this argument to fly he needs to demonstrate that facebook subcontracted cognizant in order

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for them to express the bias he wanted for facebook that allows the for conservative

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targeting that he wants to happen on the platform but also keeps his hands clean james o'keefe has

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not demonstrated this at all so it would be easy to accept literally every piece of evidence that

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he's presented and believe that this is a problem with cognizant and not with facebook that's one of

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the reasons why this is incredibly sloppy reporting it doesn't mean anything yeah there's another huge

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problem with this story and that is that at the end of 2019 it was pretty widely reported that

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cognizant technology solutions was getting out of the content moderating business they laid off

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6 000 employees and told their investors in a financial operations call quote within one subset

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of the content operations business our work is largely focused on determining whether certain

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content violates client standards and can involve objectionable materials we've determined that this

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subset of our work is not in line with our strategic vision for the company in response

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to the news facebook's vp of scaled operations aaron chandra told bbc quote we respect cognizant's

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decision to exit some of its content review services for social media platforms they had

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a 100 million dollar per year deal to run these moderation facilities and that sounds like a ton

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but you gotta you gotta understand cognizant is a huge and diverse company their revenue last year

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was 16.8 billion dollars jesus christ giant company who the fuck are these people right it was

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announced in the fall of 2019 that their content moderator work would be phased out over 2020

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which seriously calls into question a lot of the content and arguments put forth in o'keefe's video

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and this interview it seems like it might be old i have no idea it sounds like bullshit there's

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something up here but i don't know what it is something doesn't add up and uh the far be it

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for me to to uh try and put my finger on it yeah yeah i i throw this uh throw this out the window

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another important point is that there's a bunch of companies that facebook subcontracts to do

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moderation work there's pro in unlimited accenture majorl genpact and that's not even a complete

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list they're a global company yeah yeah you know that you need you need uh more than one or two

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companies right if you need people to be doing this 24 hours a day or else you'd have people

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posting beheading videos yeah exactly you know it's it's gigantic well i mean it's a nine to five

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gig we'll get to the beheading videos the next day you know that leaves him up for 14 hours but

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that's no big deal right right it's it's it this is just weak this is a week week it's insane even

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for project veritas i found this uh disappointingly weak yeah also what alex is describing at the end

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of the clip there about biker gangs who get banned creating new names that's essentially

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exactly what alex does no hey he constantly tells his audience supposed links to news wars instead

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of infowars since those links make it past blocks more easily different no exactly the same

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different companies his business strategy entirely at this point is basically just trying to give

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shit different names in order to get around bands yeah that's the whole job he is a biker gang that

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has been banned from town that changes their name that's ridiculous yeah well at least he's bad at

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rebranding news wars is just going to be spelled with a z next and we'll be like ha ha ha it's way

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better yeah so alex is mad about masks sure because it looks like abbot governor abbot's going to

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mandate uh wearing masks and in stores and stuff hey you generate babies put a fucking mask on

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next day alex is not happy about no of course and even friends and family go alex there's no

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waiver in california or texas or other states that you don't have to wear a mask in a store

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and then i pull it up and i say california dot

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here we go

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and they go like porcupine of course they can't make you wear this california.gov

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is not an actual website it's ca.gov that's the california website

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leaving that aside of course some people are not required to wear masks for instance in california

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people who are hearing impaired or communicating with someone who needs to read lips can take off

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their mask in a store to communicate people who are at restaurants and are able to sit at least

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six feet away from other parties aren't required to be masked while eating people who are doing

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outdoor recreational activity don't have to wear masks as long as they can stay distanced from

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others there are folks who have legitimate medical mental health or developmental disabilities that

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make it so they could not wear a mask safely and those people are exempt from the requirement but

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honestly if you have a medical issue that makes it so you can't wear a mask it seems like you might

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not risk going into places that there are high concentrations of people during an active pandemic

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since such uh most of such medical issues would likely involve breathing related conditions

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and there before puts you in a higher risk category yeah so i don't i don't like this is

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the angle that alex is going with though it's like there are these exemptions so let's pretend we all

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have those exemptions right right right and then we'll get around this thing which is like just

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fucking wear a mask he's doing it like uh like people used to give medical marijuana he's like

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now i got a cough so i'm gonna get a weed card man now i don't have to wear a mask there is a

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difference between the two but it's a similar behavior it's a similar behavior there's a sort

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of what's actually happening here well there's that oh god it just this is another thing like

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this is just goes pretty much throughout these days like this because he's decided to run this

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we can't breathe march he's kind of like really going hard on this mask exemption thing and it's

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just kind of childish and sad but it's also so serious yeah yeah yeah it's insane you're gonna

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get people stupid by acting like a petulant stupid child or you're gonna get people killed yeah fuck

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i just don't understand like this is stupid on a level that is is problematic for me because it

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suggests that like where's the fucking line you know like the government mandates you pay taxes

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so you pay fucking taxes you well not only that mask it's not hard not only that there is a ton

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of things that you get from paying those taxes exactly that you probably take entirely for

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granted totally and it's part of fucking cops you love so goddamn well for alex maybe that's shit or

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paved sidewalks or you know any number of things uh i mean lake michigan's pretty gross but it'd

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be worse it'd be real bad we didn't pay taxes real bad right i mean there's there's the tems

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there's a hundred unexamined things that you just go about your life and you don't realize are taken

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care of by everyone deciding to chip in right and pay for taxes and it's the same thing with this

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too like it's the government says you got to wear masks when you go inside businesses you know there

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is a collective communal responsibility that you're taking care of there and that's another

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thing i didn't cut any clips of this because it was just so consistent and so but but like alex

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is also being like studies have shown that masks don't protect you and it's like well yes you're

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just that's a straw man argument no one is arguing that wearing a mask will protect you necessarily

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right but if everyone wore a mask it's about stopping the spread exactly not curing anything

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exactly exactly and uh yeah i just i just it boggles my mind like i'm not saying

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blanketly accept anything that the government says but like you were saying with taxes you know

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there's all those benefits that you can take for granted and in this case it is not one you can

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take for granted is when you can see directly in front of your face which is that people are

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fucking dying right you know like wear a goddamn mask everybody agreed to wear a mask and when

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people stop dying so much we'll be like look at how great it was that we more wore masks yeah

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and i think the the comparison between taxes gets a little bit murkier too because so much of our

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tax money goes to things like war in the military and there are a number of people who like there

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are ways to take a conscientious stance of non-payment of taxes right that uh you know

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you take a risk of having to go to prison if you do that but there are people who have that kind

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of principled stance and i think that there isn't an analog for that in terms of in terms of this

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no there's no downside other than maybe your your face gets a little sweaty sometimes maybe

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a little bit uh that's about it what's the what do you have a downside for it not really i i'm

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fine with it now it was a tough like first day probably because i felt like a dick right right

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i'm not a guy who accessorizes like okay my head's too big for hats i've never had an earring

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i don't like sunglasses right oh i should get in sunglasses that would mitigate my cross-eye

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um we'll re-explore this i've never put beads in my beard no you're trying to think of other

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accessories you've never put beads in your beard i'm not a watch guy i'm not a jewelry guy no so

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like wearing a face mask was like it was a tough little bit of adjustment in terms of like i'm

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choosing to do this and i know people are looking at me as if i'm making a fashion choice yeah

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and that kind of was tough but it passed pretty quickly because the feeling is you're drawing

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attention to yourself by wearing this accessory where in reality you would be drawing attention

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to yourself by not wearing it in theory yeah i think that was probably a big part of what

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the feelings were based on but anyway you you can get over it that's what i would advise alex to

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get the fuck over it so he's mad at governor abbott and he actually he has an interesting uh

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view of how governorships work uh alex yes i because abbott has a very interesting view

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but it's very wrong but yeah alex alex has turned on him now okay of course even though he's the

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most out there conservative nonsense governor uh but he's he's you know he's taking the virus

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seriously too late yeah and now alex is pissed the governor california sets the precedent and

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i told you other states would follow and then governor greg habit is now literally the mini me of

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governor psycho newsom he followed his orders so texas is not just being colonized by california

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rejects now we are now under governor newsom governor gavin newsom is the governor of texas

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the governor resigned earlier yesterday and uh has uh appointed the california governor as our

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governor i mean he's might as well i know that alex is trying to be like kind of funny it's not

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funny but it really is like overly dramatic that's really the vibe that i get it's like a 13 year old

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saying his life is over because his crush doesn't want to go to the dance it's exactly like that

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this this governor does almost everything in line with what i like isn't doing what i like this time

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and therefore california now rules us over yeah oh no i'll just kill myself in the streets because

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now newsom is my governor so i think there's something interesting about this idea that

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california was going to put in this mask requirement and then texas would follow and thus

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governor news uh governor newsom is now the governor of california an underlying element of

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this is that texas would be just following california's lead but what if i were to tell

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you that california was not the first state to require masks in public interesting california's

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order went to place on june 18th but because i live in illinois i know that we've had that shit

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going since may 1st wow there was that and we aren't even the first state according to cnn the

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first state to require masks in public settings was new jersey back on april 8th so according to

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alex's logic phil murphy is currently the governor of new jersey rhode island pennsylvania new york

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new mexico michigan massachusetts maryland bain kentucky illinois hawaii dc delaware connecticut

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and california wow he really you know i i knew there was a power vacuum but i didn't know you

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could really you could really grab it you know yeah like all of a sudden you go from zero power

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to fucking i went from being the governor of the country to being the duke of the west yeah

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yeah not a bad little uh kingdom guys got going yeah most of the economic centers of the country

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certainly yeah he's he's got a lot of uh leverage as well as any negotiating table

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you got california new york you got illinois yeah all right cool anyway

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just a stupid idea of how the heck oh he's doing what california did

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yeah but i guess you recognize i recognize that he's doing that he's saying that as like a like a

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attempt at like comedic hyperbole or something yeah but he says it a lot he says it over and

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over and over again it's not funny the first time it's not interesting i don't know i mean it's it's

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a failure and just sounds like a baby yeah also it's it's one of those things where it's like

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how long before it'll be next week whenever he's like governor abbott is the best governor in this

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state because he did this and you're like what what the fuck is the point right right nothing

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matters like he does with the bar yeah yeah attorney general bar he goes back and forth on

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that guy hate him love him yeah he's the real deal i heard from the deep state that he's the

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number one guy yeah so alex gets into talking about some of these exemptions that are available

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that are available for people with masks um he's dumb persons who are hearing impaired or

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communicating with the person who is hearing impaired or the ability to see the mouth is

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essential she's telling your death persons for him wearing a face covering would create a risk

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of the person related to the work that's determined by local state federal and regulations and work

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safe guidelines yeah they just passed along california you're exempt if you're brown

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i'm wearing a mask i'm not joking i'll show it to you so pretty cool to hear alex say that in

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order to get out of wearing a mask at a store you should just lie about being deaf yeah what

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a revolutionary we have on our hands here that's the trick you know when you're willing to die for

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your cause slash pretend you have a a disability you know that's what the you know the boston tea

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party was not about that it was about uh adopting tea lists i got nothing i do have to admit that i

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frequently lied about being a student to get cheaper movie tickets oh yeah in my life i mean

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that's fair right slightly different same behavior saving those two bucks exactly a little bit

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different than saving a life that last part is really interesting the last part of his clip

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it's not entirely made up but the story he's talking about wasn't california it was in oregon

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this was a specific thing in lincoln county in oregon population 49 000 which is 90 white and

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less than one percent black the reasoning behind what they did where they made an exemption for

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people of color to not have to wear masks the the the reasoning is explained by trevor logan

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a professor at ohio state quote wearing a mask seems like a reasonable response unless you saw

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just sort of take uh american society out of it when you can't do that you're basically telling

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people to look dangerous given racial stereotypes that are out there after the raving media picked

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up on the story and started reporting on it the lincoln county board was flooded with calls from

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people yelling at them about how this was racist against white people sure quote we passed this

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last week and didn't hear much and then all of a sudden our call center blows up with people just

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yelling at whoever answers the phone lincoln county commission and spokesman casey miller said

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so they withdrew the exemption whatever you think about the exemption whether it was a completely

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stupid idea or it was well-intentioned but misguided one thing we can be sure of is that

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alex has no idea what he's talking about he said it was the state of california when in reality

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it's a small county in oregon who's already reversed the exemption as is so often the case

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alex is angrily misreporting about a story that is no longer even current yeah that's he's just

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wasting his time you know it's it's really uh it's really frustrating how well the right can weaponize

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uh an old man house phone version of a d-dos attack you know like they just you just get of

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all of these idiots to yell about this made-up there's a war on christmas or people are fake

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there's a tampon in my fucking fucking report yeah exactly and then all of these

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fucking ding dongs just call and yell and that's enough that's just enough right that's enough

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we've been walking the goddamn streets getting tear gas left and right and it's enough just to

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call a bunch of dicks in this case i mean i don't know i don't know actually i don't think i have

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any kind of real position to speak on whether or not that exemption is appropriate or not i would

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like to err on the side of hearing from the voice of people who would be affected by it so i don't

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really know um if that would be an insulting kind of exemption to be put in or if it'd be something

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that people would be in favor of i'm not entirely sure i i i i don't know i think they should just

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put a muzzle on their cops that would be interesting that would be a better way to go

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about it put a muzzle on them put a nice little leash on them they can carry sleighs you know

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do the whole thing so uh we got one more clip here from the 23rd and it's alex as a guest who

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i've never heard on before and i didn't i couldn't even be bothered to look into him and i actually

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turned off the episode it's that boring huh real boring and also um like after i heard this clip

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i was just like i'm not gonna listen to alex interview somebody who's inspired by alex like

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i'm not gonna listen to him interview a fan of his who now has some sort of a website i don't

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care i can deal with alex i don't need to listen to the uh the second-hand version of him on the

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show today we have a sycophant yeah exactly fuck that yeah well thanks for having me we can start

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with what you said when i watched you back in about 2004 or five i remember you very pointedly

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saying folks they're gonna bring back human sacrifice the un agenda 21 agenda 2030 they're

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gonna it's it's aztecs so i heard you say back then and i thought that was a little off right

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i was already kind of conspiracy woke at the time but i thought surely not and you know what i did

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alex i went and i got at my library about 40 50 of the elite books and i went through them all i

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plowed through them and sure enough you were right i actually tracked down examples of where global

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elitists like arthur kessler and ghost of the machine he says you know what since everything

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is natural anything that occurs is natural it's all just natural process all of history includes

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human sacrifice eat cannibalism these kinds of things it's all just natural there's nothing right

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so here is one of the top royal society type elites literally saying everything that you said

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so this guy's name is j dyer i don't know anything about him because i don't care yeah he sucks ghost

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in the machine is a philosophical text and this dude's analysis of it is basically proof only

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that he's not equipped to handle dense material the book itself is arthur kessler's attempt to

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explore the duality of the human the difference in the mind and body being in the same unit how

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can a creature so advanced and capable of such intellect also be a creature that's prone to

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thoughtless violence and whims of nonsensical passion that's the central question that's being

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dealt with in this tract in the book he has one section titled quote the ritual of sacrifice

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wherein he discusses the history of in human history of uh human sacrifice here's how that

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section opens quote anthropologists have paid far too little attention to the earliest ubiquitous

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manifestations of the delusionary streak in the human psyche the institution of human sacrifice

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the ritual killing of children virgins kings and heroes to placate and flatter the gods it's found

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at the dawn of civilization in every part of the world it persisted through the height of antique

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civilizations and pre-columbian cultures and is sporadically still being practiced in the remote

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corners of the world the usual attitude is to dismiss this subject as a sinister curiosity

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belonging to the dark superstitions of the past but this attitude begs the question of the

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universality of the phenomenon ignores the clues that it provides to the delusional streak in

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man's mental structure and its relevance to the problems of the present in the context of the book

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kessler uses the phenomenon as quote early symptoms of the split between reason and emotion

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based beliefs which produces the delusional streak running through history according to his belief

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quote the refusal to accept death either as a natural or as a final phenomenon populated the

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world with witches ghosts ancestral spirits gods demigods angels and devils the air became saturated

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with invisible presences as in a mental home most of them were malevolent and vengeful or at least

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capricious unpredictable insatiable in their demands they had to be worshipped cajoled

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appropriated or possibly if possible coerced hence the insane gesture of abraham the ubiquity

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of human sacrifice at the bloody dawn of civilization the holy massacres which have

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continued ever since if anything this book encourages the pursuit of a cure for what he

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calls this delusional streak since left unchecked kessler believes that this could result in human

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self-extinction and that cure is obviously sacrificing everyone no duh that was not uh

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not the sense now i'm pretty sure that's what he was advocating i don't believe that this guy has

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read this book and if he has his assessment of it reveals he's not good at assessing information

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probably explains why he's a big fan of alex though you know a lot of people really don't

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understand reading is hard if you're doing it right right it takes time it's true you should

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take notes well and and you know to be an active reader you gotta engage with the thought just

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don't don't be like oh look at this he's saying human sacrifice was all over and it happens in

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all cultures that must mean it's cool yeah um yeah it does seem odd that uh it's something that

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always makes me laugh about the whole like you're you're in english class you speak english and it's

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like no no just because you can read words doesn't mean you can read like that's just the reality of

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it and that's why we have those english and literature classes and that's the why the people

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who make fun of us for having those classes uh say shit like this and you can like even hear just

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in the way he's presenting this stuff it's like a bad alex impression like his impression is literal

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impression of alex not too shabby not terrible uh but the impression of like i went and i got

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40 40 or high level globalist books elite books yeah yeah get the fuck out yeah exactly it's uh

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it's just basically someone who's like i can see i see what alex is doing i'm instinctually aping

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it and if they're in your if they're the fucking elite books why are they in this dude's local

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goddamn library they're everywhere because ghost of the machines a very widely available book yeah

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because it's a widely available book for people right not just the elite they just want to throw

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it in your face though man why why would they put it in all the libraries and libraries have to buy

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the book and lesser magic they have to tell you what they're doing so are librarians all in on it

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when they're ordering books like when you open a new branch of the library are librarians like oh

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well we obviously have to get the lesser magic books yeah probably oh okay well i i stand

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corrected yeah so uh we get to the 24th and there's not much going on here because again

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alex has a bunch of guests on this episode doesn't really want to do any work huh i don't know what

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the deal is um i think the sense that i get is like i think that this j dyer guy maybe has a

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big audience okay i don't know i don't know who he is maybe me me saying this is like you don't

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know who j dyer i have no idea yeah no i think alex thinks that gavin has a pretty broad appeal

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i think that he thinks that this project veritas is like a big scoop that's going to go places

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woof so i think and you know some of the people that he has on this episode on the 24th too are

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people that i think he thinks is going to broaden his his his reach and maybe help promote his

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rally on the uh the the masks it's real sad when you go clout chasing at the bottom of the barrel

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holy you know when you have to dig down in there to go cloud we got gavin mcginnis coming in here

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a lot of people shooting for the stars yeah and you're just going dig it out the bottom of the

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fuck we keep digging you're gonna get to china yeah yep we got uh who who would uh james woods

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coming on steal a little bit of his luster give me give me a scott bao and we're good to go the

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reason i didn't want to i i couldn't come up with a good name and james woods kept sticking out in

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my head is that like james woods is the right guy but you wouldn't go on and force no no no no

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even he would um so we start off and we got uh you know we got the narrative about the nascar

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sure uh is in effect and so you look at this nascar driver bubba bs wallace saying that the

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rope to pull down the garage was a noose i guess the noose big enough for a cat's neck

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and he's this big hero i can't pretend that i know all the details of the bubba wallace situation but

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i'm pretty comfortable with saying that alex doesn't either he spends a lot of time on this

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episode going on about how wallace is trying to get attention for himself and make a hoax hate

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crime i'm not particularly concerned with alex's theories about this because he has the very basic

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facts of the story wrong wallace didn't report the noose someone who worked in his garage found

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it and reported it to nascar wallace himself only found out about it after nascar's president steve

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phil uh phelps contacted him to inform him of what had been found ultimately an investigation

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determined that the noose had been there since at least 2019 but there was no way for the guy at the

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garage to have known that he was part of wallace's team and they had just been transferred to that

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garage the guy who found it checked out the other garages before reporting on it and found that no

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other garages have door pulls that are tied like a noose which was part of what caused alarm when

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it was discovered that this wasn't an attack that targeted him wallace said quote i think we'll

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gladly take a little embarrassment over what the alternatives could have been given the way this

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unfolded i think that's the correct take also it's important to recognize the context we're in right

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now this is this all happened in late june which is after there have been a number of suspicious

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instances of people of color being found hanged in public these have been ruled suicides and while

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they don't have any concrete evidence to the contrary there are a lot of people bullshit

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there are a lot of people with a lot of questions yeah further investigation of those cases is

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needed for sure but even without that it's easy to see how the world circumstances make it so

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something like a noose being found in the nascar garage that happens to be used by a black driver

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that's not something you can really ignore no particularly if you're nascar yeah like the way

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that the chain of information rolled with someone finding this checking the other garages to see

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like am i making a big deal out of this yeah yeah yeah of course coincidence maybe this is a nascar

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thing finding no other nooses in any of the other garages reporting it to nascar once nascar hears

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about this they cannot not oh no and then uh bubba wallace finds out about this after that from uh

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uh nascar like the the chain of events happened exactly how it could uh it but there but alex is

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trying to turn it into jesse smollett exactly that's what he's trying over and over and over

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and over again yep yep yeah and so that's what a prick yeah what a what a what a prick whoever put

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that noose in there is a prick too why are people putting nooses places yeah because the nascar did

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release a picture of it that i saw today and it's a noose yeah that's a noose it's not let's know

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not noose right it's it's not something that you're mistaking that's a terrible idea i yeah

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i get it i mean like there's there's one version of the genesis of this that something fucked up

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like somebody who's really fucked up or it could have been somebody who like i don't know it's

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weird to have skulls and stuff yeah it could be halloween honestly what it's still take the

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news down i would just take a news down yeah if you're moving out of the garage and you had that

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up for your news with you exactly it's the campfire rule leave it better than when you got

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that would have been probably the appropriate way for this to be handled because you never know

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who's gonna experience what you're leaving behind always take your news with you exactly absolutely

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yeah that would have been better yeah so alex now he's doing his march on sunday at the capital

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in austin but he wants this to be a nationwide movement spoiler alert it's not going to be good

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luck let me hit the key point here this needs to happen everywhere don't wait for orders from

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headquarters this sunday your capital your city council your county seat you may be one person

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you may be 10 people but if you've got a real church you should go have your open air church

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service even if you believe the cobra hoax that's the safest place to be out the sunshine and preach

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the first amendment which is free speech and religion so that's why we're having this rally

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for free speech and open air church service everybody's welcome whether you're a christian or

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not this sunday at the texas capital in the governor's mansion is approximately 300 yards

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away we're going to march up there and just say shame on you abbott shame on you i can't wait to

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see the relative size of the protests gonna be huge gonna be huge compared women's march levels

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yeah yeah all around the globe even gonna have like 70 people in austin maybe maybe maybe more

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that may be a couple hundred and then compare that to the like tens of thousands through the

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black lives matter protest man i can i can imagine the howl and it would be deafening beyond all

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reason but if i could i'd have like a little agency from in the irs that's just like sending

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people around waiting for this kind of stuff with a little signature on a losing your tax exempt

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status right just like waiting there's like the moment he's like and that's why we should vote

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you'd be like bye pop out of the bushes be like surprise no more tax exempt status that's never

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going to happen under trump oh no but that would be really interesting of like you doing this would

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be crossing the line between your your church's now a political action exactly just have somebody

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waiting in the bushes they're announcing when this is going to happen have a nice little stamp made

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up that says no more tax exempt status that would be wild oh i'd love it yeah well don't think it's

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going to happen nobody expects the american inquisition alex is really desperate about this

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mask stuff in a way that i don't fully understand like i understand his version of it he's like this

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is getting you to submit so tyranny can come in i don't i don't i don't agree with his assessment

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but i get he's saying that yeah i don't think he even believes that absolutely not but there's an

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intensity behind it that leads to even sloppier work than normal here's an example of the stuff

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we've been posting i am exempt from all regulation manatee face mask uses in public wearing a mask

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poses a health risk to me under the ada and hip i am not required to disclose my medical

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condition to anyone department of justice ada violation information line 800-514-3001

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organizations and businesses can be fined 75 000 for the first ada violation and hundred thousand

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dollars for any subsequent violations attention government agents this is something a citizen

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made we've put it over at i can't breathe we can't breathe we can't breathe dot news and a bunch of

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other flyers but this is the law this is accurate this is the truth it's not i when i first saw it

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on social media i thought there was about an 80 chance that alex would be tricked by the fake mask

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exemption cards that were going around and it looks like he has this should come as no surprise

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seeing as he had dr rima labo and general stubble bind i was about to say i was thinking about the

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stubble bind just going like oh 40 bucks send away your 40 bucks the laminated don't vaccinate

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this is a grift that goes deep in the uh the right wing never-ending so this card went viral

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online but it's a meaningless piece of paper there's no backing of the department of justice

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or the ada to carrying this card and refusing someone entry to your store who's carrying that

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card or not and not wearing a mask will result in no penalty whatsoever the card has a website on it

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the ftba or the freedom to breathe agency oh god damn it this is not a real entity and their

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website links to a shitty wix page that's already been taken down that sounds right uh there all

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that was there like that website in its original form it was just there to data harvest and solicit

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donations yeah it's just yet another right-wing griff trying to take advantage of vulnerable

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people who are scared about the pandemic but are also super weird and paranoid as it turns

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out the freedom to breathe agency is just an alias of another recently created group called

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the anti-mask task force i guess they thought that their new name sounded better and was more

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conducive to them pulling off this card hoax i think it's that little tongue twister anti-mask

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task force it's a little tough that's not really a tongue twister that kind of has a ring to it

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honestly i prefer that name so on the 23rd alex had uh gavin mcginnis on because he got kicked

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off youtube sure now we get another guest who's been kicked off things we've got carpe donkdom

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who just got banned trump's favorite meme maker because he didn't criticize cnn he'll be joining

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us carpe donkdom did not get kicked off twitter for daring to criticize cnn pretty sure he did

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it was for repeated violations of copyright rules the most of the most recent which might end up

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completely derailing his life hey so the donk manipulated video of a couple of toddlers uh to

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create a parody of uh that was supposed to look like a cnn report out of it the video itself shows

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a black and white toddler recognizing each other and running towards each other to embrace the

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version that the donk put out was it made it to it was made to appear that this was a cnn report

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and the kyron said quote terrified toddler runs away from racist baby and it suggests that the

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white baby is a trump supporter sure sure so the structure of the video is that it shows that it's

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like this is like cnn's how how they would report this story okay and then it goes to what the

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actual story is and it shows the baby's hug because they're fake news and yes yes it's very

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clever that mean carpe donkdom will even like his argument is like they're proving my point because

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all they do is show the beginning of it they don't show the part where i say what the real story was

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and like they don't need to you're the part where you're lying about cnn and this shit is at the

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beginning who cares about the second part you just don't understand you're missing my point well

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that's fine maybe i am you're missing your point although i disagree but you're not even paying

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attention to my point which is why you're gonna go broke from a very basic level i can see how

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this could fall under the heading of being satire and protected by free speech but even if that's

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his argument the satire is really bad he's trying to suggest that cnn would cover this story as a

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case of a racist baby but cnn did in fact cover the video when it came out and they covered it

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as like a heartwarming human interest story where these two babies are friends the impression that

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the doc was hoping to express with his supposed satire piece is directly contradicted by reality

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so it fails to really be satire as much as it is just race baiting and white victimhood propaganda

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that's all this is i i swear to you if i could i would start a consulting if anybody was interested

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i would start a consulting firm purely for judges and the like on what satire is like i'll just be

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there i'll just have complete written summaries of why something is or is not satire yeah and then

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we can deal with the first amendment i would never want to do that because like you know bad satire

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is still protected exactly no i'm not shitty satire that's why i don't want to be involved

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because i would want consequences for shitty satire if i have one specialty it is knowing

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what is and is not satire regardless of its quality i'm not measuring good or bad satire

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that's a good role for you i think it'd be great i will recuse myself fair enough ultimately whether

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or not this video is satire is probably the least of the donks issues according to an article in

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forbes the parents of the children are suing carpe donkdom real name logan cook for using altered

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footage of their children without permission to create a video that was a quote advertisement

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and political propaganda one of the parents lawyers said quote the fact that twitter and

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facebook disabled this fake video within 24 hours of president trump and his campaign tweeting it

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coupled with twitter permanently banning cook is very strong evidence that a jury will likely find

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that all of these people broke the law by using this video as advertisement and political

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propaganda it's tough to say which direction this is going to break but even if the lawsuit isn't

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successful it's important to remember that carpe donkdom is a huge piece of shit and the parents

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of the children that he used in a race-baiting propaganda video to support trump don't want their

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kids being used like that which makes a lot of sense yeah it's shitty it's real shitty my lawyer

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said carpe donkdom can go fuck himself that was a really strong statement he put out but nobody

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uh asked him yeah so i mean look i i don't i don't know where this is going to go yeah but

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i certainly hope that carpe donkdom gets sued yeah this is this is one of those situations

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where you know for a fact that it's wrong and then you go into the legal system and you're like

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i don't fucking know how they're gonna view it right who knows what the shit is going on with

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their heads but it's wrong if it was your kids like yeah how could you not like be entitled to

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some sort of compensation for that totally you're you're you're fucking like 26 month old child is

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being used yeah for purposes that are abhorrent without your permission or contact or anything

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like that you would you would assume that cnn when they covered the video they got permission

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to use it i would hope that's how most of these outlets work generally speaking yeah it's called

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ethics i really hope that there's a hammer coming down on this this donk if they're the heroes that

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uh take down like let's start let's get that turned into a movement you know just start suing

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people yeah so alex gets to carpe donkdom a little bit down the road but before he does he has

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another interview which is with a lady named bonnie cudlip who apparently used to work on

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abbott's governor abbott's campaign but now works overnight doing stocking at an heb grocery store

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but doesn't work there anymore because she refused to wear a mask and got fired i don't care um this

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seems to me to be um someone who's just there talk shit about governor abbott that does sound like

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what and promote the upcoming i don't want to wear a mask march yeah that's it that's governor

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abbott's larry nickels so she's on and uh they talk they talk about this uh this situation

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there's some some weird stuff here but bonnie cudlip who i've met before at a second amendment

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rallies i saw her when she was behind a desk in there then i went out to you know during a break

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she came in and sitting down telling her story about being fired from major grocery store chain

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here in texas heb for being an overnight stalker and saying i don't want to wear a mask i'm exempt

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from and i have asthma i didn't then she starts getting up she has crutches under the desk she's

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like oh yeah i broke my foot pulling the pallets that's another reason they fired me and heb is

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known for no workers comp it's as close to slave labor as you can get terrible company terrible

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people uh people that own it family knew him way back at baylor just horrible scum of the earth

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but that's a side issue now you've worked inside there you recap the story and the parts that you

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didn't tell folks about your foot getting broken uh dragging around this mask dragging around the

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mask i i have around the mask i have no idea what's true about this story about this woman

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being fired for not wearing a mask i have no idea if she is someone who has a legitimate condition

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that would exempt her from wearing a mask then i assume that she should have a pretty decent

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wrongful termination claim but at this point all i have to go on is that she's saying these things

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on infowars which doesn't really fill me with a lot of confidence what i find more interesting

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is how detached from any real semblance of principles alex is here he wants to evoke

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sympathy for cudlip so he's talking about how heb didn't pay her workman's comp but if i'm not

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mistaken based on his political positions he shouldn't believe that employers should be

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required to pay that kind of compensation at all yeah absolutely workers enter into a contract of

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employment aware of risks involved and forcing an employer to pay for any clumsiness or carelessness

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of his employees that's an undue burden and it's a breach of the freedom of association

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his professed libertarian ideas should make him believe that bonnie had no right to the job if

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she wasn't doing it to the satisfaction of her employer she entered into the contract with the

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employer and she breached the terms of it by refusing to wear a mask thus heb was absolutely

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within their right to fire her yep this is one of the reasons that libertarianism is pretty tough

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to defend in the real world alex standing by his principles that he pretends to have would require

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him to side with heb over bonnie even if she's very sympathetic and has a broken foot the very

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safety nets that we have to protect someone for being unjustly fired or to force a company to

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pay for on-the-job injuries they only exist because of the work of people alex would call

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demonic globalist communists go fuck yourself alex you want to live in the world that your

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enemies create that's why you live in austin yep you just yep dumb asshole no it's it's like when

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my oldest brother was on unemployment when uh this started and it's like then then shut the fuck up

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forever you never get to speak again never get to complain about other people having uh access to

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social safety say to yourself thank god i had this unemployment check to help me get through this

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time and then what happens then you start thinking well other people if they go through this time

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should they deserve that same kind of thing and then all of a sudden every conservative bullshit

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line you get is over yeah but they can't do it socialism for me not for everybody else yep alex

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demands workman's comp yeah fuck off and uh uh uh employment protection yeah and and paid maternal

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leave fuck off you don't believe in any of that stuff alex shit you're not supposed to how dare

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you yeah alex is going socialist yeah yeah yeah for me and my white friends and no one else so

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um i don't care about their interview like i said like i can't find any news stories about her being

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fired or anything like that so i don't have any perspective on it outside of what's presented

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on info wars and quite frankly i don't care if that's all the information that i have then i

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can't really work with it i don't even trust that she's got an actual broken foot and she's on info

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i don't i believe i don't believe anything all right so he gets to carpe doctor and it's just

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like if they can take me out they can take anybody out well i don't know about that at the top of the

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list that's topped out i i am spartacus kind of yeah whatever sure sure and uh this this is just

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the only clip that i thought was pretty funny just last week carpe donkton and i were playing phone

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tag about him going ahead and getting a site on band out video because of all the censorship

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and then voila big national news story breaking yesterday carpe donkton banned for the video

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we're about to play now for radio listeners you've got to go to band out video to see it

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with the streams carpe donkton's had a fucking channel on band video for a long time no no

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he's just in negotiations to get it he's had a channel the meme world there but it's not

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it's you know it's not no one cares no everybody cares everybody cares real hard this is another

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one of those things where it just feels like alex is trying to cash in on some sort of attention of

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that these people have like a flicker yeah there's a little bit of a window where it's like and even

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carpe donkton says something to the effect of like it's really nice to talk to you whenever there's

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chaos and it kind of feels like yes the only time that you are valuable to alex is when you get

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banned from something and he can hopefully get a little bit of that attention does he say it like

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knowing what's going on it's hard to tell or is he somewhat oblivious like he's aware unconsciously

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of the pattern it's hard to tell it could be a knowing wink of like you keep doing yeah yeah

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or it could be a thing where it's like uh you know hey the life's a whirlwind it's always nice

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to take time out of my day to talk sure sure sure who knows it's it's really hard to tell but it

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i found it to be a little bit telling whatever the intention of it was yeah so he's got you know

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he's gonna get this banned on video page that he already has that's great um and alex discusses

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this and like this is the last clip that i have because he just interviews larry pinkney the guy

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from the black panthers yeah great i don't care nope it's just the two it's just the two of them

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yelling about patriots patriotism patriots yeah yeah i don't care um and so like uh this is the

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last clip and it's them talking about like banned video and alex basically admits why like he's

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censoring everybody on his own website so stupid carpe donk to anybody who wants a channel out

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there that is a known quantity uh you know obviously he put random people on they'll get

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a suit but we're gonna have a forum on there where it's like you know third party just like the

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section 230 but so he understands that if he opened up his platform the way that large

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corporations and large online platforms do he would get sued yeah and uh he knows that in order

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for that not to happen he has to censor content by not even allowing most people to upload stuff

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onto there nope and he gets it he understands for his own space yeah he gets it yep yep i am

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willfully lying about stuff that's so annoying yeah it's very annoying can't get away with it

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yeah you can it's like james will keep shitty videos like demand better i think i think it's

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actually kind of a good sign because i think it means that people just don't give a shit yeah

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that's probably true and maybe that's uh this cesspool is ours and ours alone now dan maybe

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that's a um conditional bright spot we'll see um anyway that brings us to the end of this

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um i find i found these couple days uh tragic yeah really bad just just a fucking uh sahara desert

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of interest i don't care about any of these dicks oh come on the donkdom has things to say

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carpe donkdom i don't care about gavin mcginnis he started vice i don't give a fuck james o'keefe

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he's the lead live investigator i don't care about this facebook guide cognizant guy trying

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to run a grift hey he's going to be testifying in front of congress no he's not i don't care about

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any of this stuff i don't give a shit she broke her foot it just all seems very desperate and it

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feels attention grabby and you know you add that in with the the we can't breathe website and march

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and all this stuff it just just feels like this show it doesn't always feel like this but this

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stretch of time particularly just really feels like impotent weak trolling and it's just not

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interesting at all it kind of feels like this was the this was the first time that they really did

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get together in a writer's room and like toss around ideas and all of the ideas were like oh

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he's got a little heat on him let's bring him on the show that's it yeah and also how could we be

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more racist and offensive let's just brainstorm ways and let's not check and see if we can't

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breathe is already the name of something don't bother right there's no way anyone else could

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have thought of this yep we're your info wars we're the tip of the spear guys holy shit i pray

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for um rain metaphorically uh to to create some greenery are you joining that austin prayer group

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uh before you i will not be doing that i'll be staying home that'd be funny if they were praying

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for rain yeah and we'll see what happens uh but uh we'll be back uh on monday for another episode

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but until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledgefight.com i gotta get

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knowledgefight.news so i can't get it also like i should ask him for a channel on band.video if

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it's a free speech platform we wouldn't do anything to get him sued that's actually true

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yeah we should start making videos for band.video i don't think that would go well i think that

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would break uh the the no no interfering with the observation conflicted about it though just

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as an experiment i would like to have a channel would he let us of course not right but he should

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of course he should i feel like this might be a point where i could break the non-intervention

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oh do you think this is well because we could wage an entire campaign like let us on band.video

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coward why don't you do you think that's a good idea i do too but i don't want that's that's our

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same attention-seeking bullshit that we criticize him for however this would be fun and satirical

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exactly we both did the same point at each other with the word and the reason it would be satire

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is because we would have absolutely no intention of actually making videos on his site of course

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not i'm going to say we're not going to do this but keep it on the back burner in case there's

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no downside maybe we should have that as like an outrageous patreon a break but in case of break

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glass yeah we'll see uh we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore

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fight and i go to bed jordan and i'm going to scoop up at carpe docdom which is now available

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oh really go for it uh we're also on facebook we are on facebook review itunes uh and if you could

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please find a local charity in your area support a bail fund support uh something along those lines

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for people doing god's work right now yeah we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx

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clark i'm the juiciest ice cube andy and chanzas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex

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i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you