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Hello Alex, I'm a system caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your room, knowledge fight, knowledge

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fight dot com, I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight, I'm Dan, I'm Jordan, we're a couple dudes,

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like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones, indeed

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we are Dan, Jordan, Dan, Jordan, can I ask you a question, yeah, what's a bright spot

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that's been going on in your life so far?

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This is going to be an iffy bright spot, an iffy bright, what is it, what is an iffy bright

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spot?

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Well it's kind of bright but also a little bit weird, okay, so we were talking on our

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last episode about wrestling theme songs a little bit, of course, and I started to think

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about the time that the WWF put out an album where rappers did the wrestlers theme songs,

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they did rap versions of them, and I started to think about it like, I haven't listened

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to that in a long time, so I went back and listened to it, it's not that great, but I

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started to think about other rap stuff that I haven't heard in years, and that I remembered

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the 69 boys, okay, this is an iffy bright spot, do you remember the 69 boys, I do not

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remember the 69 boys, when I was in high school, we would drive to lunch, and everybody like

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one of the, the guy who drove us to lunch had an album called the wait is over, by the

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69 boys, and there was a song on it called freak you down to the base, I'm going to play

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you a little sample of it here, how far down is that?

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It's so far down.

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Yeah we very different, that I can't deny, use a big city girl and I'm a country guy,

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and I'll trade about the sop, so about that drop and let's be real for a minute baby,

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look in my face and tell me have you ever been freaked to face, so has a man ever made

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you buckle up at your knees?

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Edit this out, edit this out, somebody stop this, somebody stop him, free me, free me,

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free me, see listen, here's the problem, you were talking over the part that's the most

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awesome about this. I apologize. He says, as a man ever made you buckle up at your knees

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by the way he slowly ate your macaroni and cheese, which is a ridiculous rap lyric. But

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this song, this song is full of food metaphors for sex. Everything is just about fucking,

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but he's talking about like, I'm going to drop my ham hocks and your mustard greens.

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Okay. Okay. It's ridiculous. And so I listened to that. I was like, that's just as fun as

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I remember it in terms of like just being a really ridiculous song. And then I realized

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that that came out in 1998. Oh boy. That's 22 years old, six years into Clinton's presence.

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That's 22. Like when I was born, that amount of time back would have been 1966. Yeah. So

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what I was bored, like the Beatles were putting out albums at the time that it's been since

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the 69 put up to wait is over. So that's my bright spot. They're equal. Yeah. The Beatles

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in the 69 certainly equidestined time, something along those lines. So what about you? I will

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tell you this. Have you ever heard of a awesome games done quick? Yeah, yeah, sure. That's

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a stream kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a charity where, uh, all these guys speed

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run video games and I watched this one where it was a blind speed race of super Mario maker

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levels and watching these guys just slowly figure out how to get through this impossible

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Mario level is so it's so fun to watch them learn and their little techniques get better

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each and every time. And also it's just mesmerizing the way that everything moves around and they're

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jumping off of the wall. It's, it's very, very fun and soothing. I hate to be this guy.

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You hate to be this guy, but I have recommended those to you repeatedly in the past. What

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the like really, really hard super Mario maker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we've talked

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about it, but yeah, they are very fun to watch. I wasn't judging you. I'm not trying to take

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it away from you. I appreciate it. They're very fun to watch. Thank you for the recommendation.

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Oh, these are the bright spots, uh, uh, for the day. Yeah. So Jordan, we got an episode

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to go over a today. We're going to be going over March 24th and 25th, 2020. I'm Dan. This

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is 2020. So that would be a Tuesday and Wednesday of this week. All right. Uh, and uh, boy,

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everything has changed. Not only in the real world, but in the world of Alex's narratives.

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Okay. One 80. Okay. So now it's not even happening. Well, sort of. Okay. All right. There is no

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Corona virus. There's a lot of, uh, doubling back on stuff and we'll get down to business

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on that here in a second. But before we do that, take a moment to say thank you to some

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Thank you, Max. And finally, a couple of special thank yous to some folks who donated on an

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elevated level. We appreciate it very much. So first of all, thank you oh so very much. Charlotte,

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you are now a technocrat. And We Play RPGs podcast. Thank you so much. You are now a

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technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's

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your 401k doing, bro? All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? Let's just

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get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why you pimps so good? My neck

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is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much, Charlotte and We Play RPGs

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podcast. All right. Yes. Thank you very much to the two of you. Thank you so much. Yes. If you're

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appreciate it. But also if you're feeling so inclined and you have some dispensable money,

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perhaps consider donating to a charity in your area that supports people who are laid off,

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service industry workers or caters to people experiencing homelessness, food shelters,

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food banks, excuse me, stuff like that. There's a lot of people who probably are in more severe

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need than us. Although we do certainly appreciate the thought. Yeah. And organize your friends into

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a rent strike. That's what I would recommend. All right. And you can find more information

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about this by going to number one, the Cheesecake Factory and number two, Jordan's Twitter. That

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sounds like a plan. So Jordan, like I said, today we have a very bizarre situation on Alex's show

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and it starts with him promising to be right on the ball today. All right. Right down the middle.

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Okay. Gonna be good. I trust him. I trust him this time. I believe in him. Gonna do a good job.

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I'm going to be a really good boy today and I'm going to cover all the news. And boy, is it

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amazing. The big giant quadrillion pound enchilada that's sitting in the middle of the living room.

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I like enchiladas. Quadrillion pound elephant sitting on top of that.

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Not going to be able to eat that. The infinity dollar question is where the hell are the

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globalists going to take us? And the answer is right into chaos, wreck and ruin and destruction.

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So he's going to be good today and explain how the globalists are going to take us into wreck

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and ruin. So that's very exciting. That's a very positive message. So we've got going on here is

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that now this is a hoax. The whole thing is a hoax. Well, no, there is a real virus, but being

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afraid of it is a hoax in order for the globalists to take control by way of destroying the economy

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by having people not go to work. Okay. So Alex discusses how this hoax that they're doing,

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the globalists, that is, is now floundering. Isn't it amazing to watch

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the globalist flounder around like this and try one big hoax after another? And now

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their mass hysteria worked at first. But now everybody I talk to is now waking up and just

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saying, this is ridiculous. This is out of control. And the lieutenant governor of Texas

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came out and said, I'm a grandparent. Others are grandparents. We're all talking and we're ready

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to brave this thing that looks like it might kill 1% of people that are above 75 and sick

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for our grandkids because the great depression is going to be a lot worse than that. And Trump

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said it last night in the press conference that Brian Williams attacked that's coming up.

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So Alex has definitely caught the right wing talking points. He has gotten in line with the

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people are like the Tucker's and the the Hannity's who were putting forth the, and his old buddy,

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Glenn Beck and him are in, they're in sync now too. The old people are willing to go and save

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the economy and they'd rather die than see the economy take a hit. So that's cool. It is,

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it is interesting to think about these people being like, you know, who should fight in world

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war one, the elderly, I think we should put them in the front lines. They're willing to sacrifice

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themselves for the good of the country. Right. They have less time left. Put them in the trench.

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Oh no. A million people died. They were going to die in two years anyways. Come on.

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It's really interesting considering the trajectory and the path that we've seen Alex walk down

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and the way that this is, it seems out of step with the path we've been on. It definitely feels

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like, okay, this is the, this is the mood of the right wing culture now. And Alex is falling in

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line with it as opposed to being like his own animal. He's not an iconoclast anymore. It doesn't

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feel like it, but he does believe he has in the same way that whenever the going gets weird,

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the weird turned pro to quote Hunter S. Thompson, the the, if you're all doing that, then Alex has

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to go a little bit beyond that. Absolutely. And so he does kind of get down to that in this clip.

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He insists that what's going on is unconstitutional and that's going to be

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a virus. Well, not the virus, but the response to it. Gotcha. Nobody's bad that wants to be

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upset about it and quarantine themselves, but that's your choice. The forced shutting down

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of society is unconstitutional and it's deadly dangerous. Where point my operations,

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media and warehouses and food are all covered. So I'm not saying, oh, I'm against this because

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it affects us. So he wants to establish, first of all, we'll get back to the

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unconstitutionality question in a moment, but he wants to let you know that this is not because

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my business is affected. No, no, no, absolutely. All the things that I do are completely exempt

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from the shutdown orders. Interesting. Stay at home orders. I'm not worried about it at all.

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Let's see how the next 40 seconds ago. It makes me physically go into a rage

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that art supply shops are going to have to shut today when Austin declares it's only essential

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business to stay open or that Academy was told to close in Dallas, which is a lot more important

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than Walmart. They got a lot of stuff and camping stuff and guns and everything and

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in clothing and don't know if you're just shut and propure in Michigan or other great water filter

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supplier Alexa pure selling out. So I said, well, let's go to propure. This is good. Let's

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promote them. They got, Oh, sorry. Michigan ordered them shut down. I'm reading the letter

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this morning and I literally got angry. Water filters aren't essential, but marijuana within

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30 seconds of him saying that my business isn't personally affected. It just so happens that one

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of our suppliers is shut down and I'm very mad about that. And all gun stores are spiritually

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his sponsors. So any gun store is not being open is certainly a big slight. Yeah. Um, so yeah,

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he is a probably a little bit misleading there about not being affected by this, but there's

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a five year old out there who can't get his first AK on his fifth birthday. Then what the

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fuck are we doing? That's not America anymore. What are we doing? So, um, these government, uh,

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mandated shutdowns, they're definitely not unconstitutional at this point. We're really

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only seeing state and local governments putting these kinds of shutdowns or, or stay at home

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orders in place. And these are well within the rights that States have to protect the

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community from infectious diseases unconstitutional. No more States rights, Dan,

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according to an article in Politico by UC Davis law professor Elizabeth Joe, this is a part of the

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state's policing power, which was reserved by the 10th amendment. And it's been affirmed in case law

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pretty consistently. The question of whether Trump could do that on a national level. That's an open

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question with experts, not really having a good take on it because there isn't a good precedent.

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Most thinking that he could do it or if he could do it, it would take the form of an executive

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order using this national emergency declaration as the groundwork. The courts could try to challenge

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it, but they might not be quick to do that while the virus situation is still an active threat.

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It'd be kind of complicated, but even if Trump did this, he probably would be unable to do much

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more than encourage every state to just do what California, New York and others are already doing.

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If you were to try to put a lockdown in place in a way that bypasses the state governors,

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being the ones who were making the decision and running their home States, there's a pretty decent

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chance that that would be unconstitutional. It seems like if you were a big state's rights guy,

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you would be more in favor of the states choosing their own path forward, right? Or you could just

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call it all unconstitutional and just use that as a buzzword. Yeah, absolutely. The general point

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here is that nothing that's happening right now is unconstitutional and further there's really

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nothing that can happen that would be unconstitutional that would not be initiated by

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Trump. Congress doesn't have the authority to lock down the country, but it could grant Trump

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the authority to do that, though it probably wouldn't do that unless he requested it. He

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could release an executive order. Outside of that, what we would see is just state governors

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utilizing their 10th amendment powers to protect their residents. And as you pointed out, Alex

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should be totally fine with that. He yells about state's rights all the fucking time. Nope,

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unconstitutional under clause two of section one, where it says the constitution is whatever we say

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it is. Sure. On whatever day. If you're a right-wing propagandist, otherwise you're not

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allowed to look at this document. Pretty sure that's the constitution. I'm pretty sure that's

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what it says. So Alex is really pushing pretty good on this. People want to die or risk death

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in order to make sure that the economy keeps humming along just great. And we start to see

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the way that this narrative is going to take shape over the course of this episode. I got a call

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yesterday from one of my lawyers, who I've known about six years. He's a good guy, but he's a big

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Democrat. Means well, kind of an old-fashioned Democrat. Means well. Yellow dog Democrat here

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in Texas. He said, I'm kind of thinking Trump's right. I'm looking at my 401k and I'm looking

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at my first grandchild coming and I'm looking at depression and what that'll do and how millions

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died of starvation during that. Did you know millions died during the great depression

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starvation? I'm like, no, I didn't know that because I'm hearing my own information come back

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at me. That's when you know you're successful. And I go, did you hear that from me? He goes, no,

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no. I was talking to some of the other lawyers. He said, I do think we just can't shut everything

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down for months and months. I mean, China is already open for business. And he goes,

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I think Trump's right. I mean, we just can't indefinitely shut everything down.

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This lawyer does not exist. This is just Alex doing a voice to repeat his own talking points

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and the guys of some big Democrat lawyer that he knows. Yeah, such bullshit. What are you? Oh,

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Alex, did you know that seven million died of starvation in the great depression?

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A very common thing to know for a lot of lawyers. Did you know that lawyers get

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together on their off hours and talk about the great depression and casualties? Did you

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know in order to pass the bar, you have to study profit? Such bullshit doesn't exist. That's only

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in Texas that you have to study profit, but you're going to start to see over the course of this in

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terms of rationalizing that notion of we need to put everyone back to work now, damn the torpedoes

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who care about the consequences or the dangers of the virus, the coronavirus, put everyone back to

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work because if the economy falls apart, we'll have a great depression. Seven million will starve

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to death. It's where the cure is worse than the disease. Right. So that fake statistic is going

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to become a very important part of his rationalization. Fake statistics are a huge

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part of his rationalization. Yep. And just like viruses mutate, you know how they do that? So do

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sales pitches. Okay. Alex is in a position now where a lot of his normal avenues for making

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money during this crisis have been cut off. He's gotten a very stern warning from the New York

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Attorney General's office and he can't really sell things like his silver the way he was before.

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Yeah. He's artificially increased the demand so high on the supply of the food supplier that

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they've had to not allow him to take orders anymore. So he is in a position where like,

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well, I can't do that. But as we saw in our last episode, he's now realized that this chloroquine

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that Trump was promoting, it involves zinc and he sells the real red pill, which includes zinc.

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Right. And so he's going really, he's going hard in the fake bowl into like, well, now it's time

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to sell zinc. And they won't tell you the science that zinc if taken preventatively before you get

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sick, depending on the study you look at is between 97 and 99% effective with viruses period.

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Look it up, type in the zinc antiviral and you will see it for yourself. And what does chloroquil

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do? Chloroquine? It is simply a medical version of what is in the tonic that you get at the store.

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Wow. British government learned that it was anti-malarial and their troops all over the

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equatorial world 200 years ago, one of their gin, the army drank gin. Alex goes on a rant about gin

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and tonics a lot on this episode. He just repeatedly is like this chloroquine is just like

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drinking tonic water. Man, is he trying to get as many letters from attorneys general that he can?

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Is he trying to build a collection there? He seems to be like a dog going up to an invisible

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electric fence, getting shocked and then like trying to go a little bit to the side,

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just constantly like, is this okay? This fence is a giant circle, but what if I just go inch by

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inch? Eventually I'll find every part of the circle, right? Yeah. So now it's all about selling

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the zinc. And I was able to find some studies that seem to suggest that zinc supplementation

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could have an effect on preventing things like the common cold. So I'm not going to get too bogged

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down in Alex's shamelessly transparent attempt to sell the real red pill. Yeah. I think that he's

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going a little bit overboard, but whatever. I'm more interested in the fact that he's still pushing

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the chloroquine, particularly considering he called it chloroquil, which doesn't inspire

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confidence that he has a good handle on his night quill day quill chloroquil. It all makes sense.

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By the time we'd recorded our last episode, there had been two non-fatal overdoses in Nigeria from

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people taking the irresponsible advice to take chloroquine to treat or prevent the coronavirus.

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But since then, a 68 year old man in Arizona died after taking chloroquine phosphate and

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his 61 year old wife was sent to the hospital in critical condition. She survived and explained

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their actions by saying, quote, we saw Trump on TV, every channel and all his buddies said that

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it was safe. Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure. Alex is one of those buddies,

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maybe not the ones that she saw, but he's playing the same games as all of them. News broke about

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the couple at least a day before the episode that we're listening to right now. The advice has taken

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at least one life and sent others to the hospital and Alex is comparing it to quinine being in tonic

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water. This is absolutely staggering levels of irresponsibility that he has on display here.

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It's just, you couldn't do a worse job if you tried. Yeah, you know, I think a lot of people

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are willing to sacrifice themselves so the Dow doesn't go down a percentage point, but what we

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don't know is that also Republicans are willing to kill themselves to make sure that it doesn't

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go down a percentage. You didn't know that. Did not know. Yeah, see, it's very, it's very crucial,

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crucial. Uh-huh, yep. So this is a psy-op that's going on. Sure, sure. Apparently, according to

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Alex and also Trump knows that it's a psy-op, which is weird. Trump knows so much that doesn't

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seem to exist or happen. Yeah, and this is where we get into the other element of the,

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ah, the virus is no big deal narrative. President Trump understands this is a psy-op,

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so he's been in a balancing act where he responded to the virus that does kill people and is a

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serious issue. It's the hype saying it's the end of the world that's the hoax and the psy-op.

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He knows that China's already ramping up, ignoring the virus over there. They've only lost about

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4,000. Italy's over 5,000 now because they have the oldest population in Europe and because they

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all live third, fourth generation together in the same small apartments. They lose 70,000 on average

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a year from the flu there and so they've lost 5,000 from this. Firstly, this is not a psy-op

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and if the psy-op is supposed to be portraying the situation that it's the end of the world,

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I only know one fucking person who said it's over for humanity. There will only be lone survivors.

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So I guess Infowars is the tip of the spear on the psy-op. We've already established that our

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boy Mike Adams is a globalist for sure. And he's working for China. Absolutely. He's the mainstream

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media. Of course. Yeah. I wanted to take a moment to address Alex's dumb dumb idea that this is just

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like the flu, which he's insinuating at the end of that clip and he does say pretty consistently,

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or at least comparing flu deaths to this. I talked to my aunt last night and she told me that.

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Yeah. Like Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah. I think that your aunt and a lot of folks on Twitter

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have this narrative in their head and they can't seem to get past this thing. And from what I can

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tell, the only thing this argument is based on is a raw number of deaths that come from the flu each

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year. This is a really incomplete way of looking at the situation. And there's a couple of really

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important considerations to keep in mind to help understand why this coronavirus is definitely not

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like the flu. And if not taken seriously, it will be much worse. The first and easiest to understand

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element of this is they have a very different fatality rate. The two conditions, the flu has

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approximately a 0.1% fatality rate, whereas the bottom estimates for the coronavirus are at about

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1%. But some countries are showing significantly higher numbers than that. On just that level,

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it's at least 10 times deadlier for people who get infected. On top of that, you have a higher

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estimated transmission rate from coronavirus than from the flu. Each person who has the flu

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generally will give it to 1.3 people compared to the at least two people that are infected from

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each person who has the coronavirus. Each person who has the virus will on average give it to two

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people, and that's triple the number of cases in each iteration. Yeah, that's how exponential

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growth works. Yeah, but that estimate might actually be really low. And part of what makes

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things really scary is that the coronavirus has an incubation period that can last up to 14 days,

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as opposed to the about four-day window for the flu. This incubation period is the period where

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a person could be asymptomatic, have no idea they have the virus, but be contagious the entire time.

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Because of this longer incubation period, the cases that we're seeing arrive in the hospital

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today may be people who have been sick and not known it for two weeks. During that time,

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it's possible that they spread the virus to a bunch of other people who we won't know are

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sick until a week or two from now. It may already be too late to do anything about where we'll be

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in two weeks, but it's not too late to make sure that three weeks or a month from now,

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things are not continuing down that same horrible path. And that's why we should get back to work

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next week. Makes sense. Because math. Right. One of the things that makes this path so bad

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that you could be on is that people who have coronavirus are approximately 10 times more

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likely to require hospitalization than people who come down with the flu. Because of this,

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if cases spike very fast, it has the potential to completely overwhelm the hospital system in

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the country, at which point things have the possibility of deteriorating dramatically.

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Especially considering that at the point the hospitals are overwhelmed, there are still going

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to be more patients coming in, and people who are coming in with things that aren't coronavirus

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related. Wrong. If there's anything I know about America's healthcare system as it stands right

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now, it is set up for any challenge, Dan. Infinite possibilities. Any challenge. That's why

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Americans spend more on healthcare than anybody else in the world, to make sure that when an

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outbreak like this happens, we don't have to worry about it, Dan. Totally. Now, you can add on top

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of that the fact that people with coronavirus require a longer and more intensive hospitalization

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than do most patients who come in for the flu. A limited sample study published in the

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Journal of the American Medical Association found a median length of stay for coronavirus patients

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to be 10 days, as compared to an average of 6.3 days for the flu, according to a 2015-2016 set of

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data from the Healthcare Cost and Utilization Project. The coronavirus spreads more, incubates

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for longer, thus giving a longer contagion window, hospitalizes more, and causes longer hospital

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stays in patients who do end up requiring medical care. All of these variables combined are

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unsustainable at a certain point. And you can easily imagine how this will have all sorts of

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ripple effects. It could end up being horrific. Not least among them, all of the other needs of

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the medical system that would be left on. And, oh, all of the flu, people. Because it's not like this

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is replacing the flu. No, it gets rid of the flu. The coronavirus eats the flu virus. It's not like this is our

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flu this year. There's also people getting influenza. No, there's no flu on top of a coronavirus. You can

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only have one virus at a time, Dan. That's the rule. Unconstitutional to have more than two viruses.

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Oh, that's a good point. It isn't the Constitution. So the flu is no joke, and I'm not here to say it's not an issue.

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But anytime you hear someone compare our current situation to the flu, they're either a complete

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psychopath or they have no idea what they're talking about. Cowards like Alex hide behind this

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sort of bullshit about there being like 50,000 deaths from the flu a year in America. That

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statistic isn't accurate. And even if it were, do you think he would change his tune if like

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55,000 people end up dead from the coronavirus? Oh, absolutely. It's just a mask. He'd change his mind.

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No. Absolutely. So some of his information is a little bit wrong. For one, Japan has a higher

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proportion of people over the age of 65 than Italy, but that's not in Europe. Race-specific

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bioweapon. If you're going by median age, Germany and Monaco both have populations that

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are older than Italy, so those are in Europe. Also, Alex's stat about 70,000 flu deaths a year

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in Italy is completely incorrect. It comes from him not knowing how to read. There was a study

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that was published in November 2019 in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases

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that showed a total of 68,000 flu deaths in Italy during the time period it studied. I'm fairly

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certain that this is his source, but what he fails to point out is that this study covered the period

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of winter 2013 through the end of flu season 2017. Every year. What? That's four years? Yeah. Okay,

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so that's what? 280,000 deaths per year? No, no. You're multiplying instead of subtracting

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or dividing. Also, it really needs to be pointed out that this study was an estimate. They took all

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cause fatality data from the country and then combined it with the rates of people getting

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in influenza-like illnesses and estimated that there would be 68,000 deaths attributable to the

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flu in that five-year span. The study literally says, quote, the study should be validated using

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cause-specific mortality data, which, however, was not available for the entire study period.

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Gotcha. No matter how you slice it, Alex's number is completely false in the context he's providing

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it in. And actually, according to that very study, the 2013-2014 flu season during that time,

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there were 7,027 deaths in Italy attributable to the flu. As of the time that I was preparing this

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episode, it's higher now, but there were 7,503 deaths from the coronavirus in Italy. So,

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already higher than that for the year. The psyop is not the media saying that this is the end of

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the world because the media isn't saying that. Alex Jones and his friends were a couple months

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ago. The psyop is people like Alex and most of the right-wing media trying to convince their

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audiences that reality isn't reality. It's a game that they play so often, and generally they get

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away with it because they're yelling about stuff like the war on Christmas, some other boutique

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concern that's completely made up. Absolutely. This one is not, and no amount of yelling,

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it's just like the flu, go back to work, is going to make things right. It's not like... Nope. It

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doesn't play by the same rules as these other propaganda narratives. It really does feel like

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this is a... It's almost like the culmination of all right-wing propaganda is to eventually

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get its people to kill themselves. It's almost like Fox News was a false flag to kill the elderly

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at the end of the day. They started it 20 years ago and they're like, okay, we're going to have

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too many old people. It's just going to happen. We got to do something about this. I have a new

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plan. We're going to get a black president and we're going to lose people's minds and then kill

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them. And then the payoff. And then kill them. Yeah, I mean, like, if we were on Infowars,

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you'd be suggesting that as a serious thought. Yeah, exactly. That's supposed to just, yeah.

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So Alex, because everything is so different now in his rhetoric, he's trying to underplay all this,

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he now has to sort of pretend like, ah, the past isn't real. I didn't say that. I didn't say that

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stuff. So his warning was never about the virus. What was it about? It was about the pandemonium,

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the freaking out. All right. So that's what he says in this next clip. I said,

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get ready because of the economy and the breakdown and the global is trying to use it

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eight weeks ago. And boy, have we been proven right. So don't panic because of the virus.

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Get ready and get concerned because of the panic they've created. So I will grant that Alex does

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always talk about the economy and now you should panic about it. Granted, he used to do it a lot

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more back when he was a gold salesman because he had a more strong financial interest in the,

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that narrative. But he, you know, that isn't entirely inaccurate, but yes, this virus is

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deadly. It's not like SARS and things that were just to hype up and scare people and only killed

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a few hundred. They were saying it's fair monitoring and panicking last week to save

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47,000 at it. Now the Chinese government today said 300,000 probably did. And that's just in

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Wu Han. The official world health organization says 28,000 confirmed. Well, I walked in here

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a few minutes ago, it was 24,000, but the internal Chinese numbers that leaked and were actually

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published in China by the people's daily said 24,000 dead yesterday. So what we think they're

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doing is they're just putting the number of dead as the number of infected from your sources at the

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UN from your own research. How bad is this? Well, Alex, you had this so-called tabletop

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computer game at Johns Hopkins. Bill Gates again, 65 million dead.

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That's correct. That's the only figure I have seen that seems to be credible that comes out to be a

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20% mortality rate. So even the official numbers now show it has a much higher death rate than

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they were saying. The Chinese government says 15%. Barnes, you look at a lot of numbers.

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So they're just introducing us to the new AIDS of the new millennium. And this isn't just going to

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be something that kills people that have anal sex or whatever, or use needles. This is something

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that's going to kill you and your family and make you have a heart attack and make your lungs bleed

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out. And it totally sucks. And so that's true. We all are concerned. It's the last

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true thing he's ever said. Oh, this, this is big. It is big, but now the numbers are coming out.

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We know that it is indeed killing healthy young people. And it is killing a high number of those

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that are infected coming out of places like Italy. They're saying it's killing a lot more

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people than the numbers. The chai comms have been giving us. Well, you can't believe a word

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that comes out of the chai comms mouth, but I want to go back a month ago.

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I could have 10 storeable foods, company sponsors. A lot of folks do

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you listen to some of the other national hosts, they'll have three or four.

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I've been on there 25 years. People need high quality, horrible food. It's spreading all over

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the world and it's got a high kill rate. It's manmade. It's spreading all over the world.

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It's got a high kill rate. Wow. Yeah. We're selling a lot of storeable food right now,

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but not the way I want to sell it. Poor guy. He's trying to retcon his narratives harder than Rise

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of Skywalker. This is brutal. Just because a part of the things he said before did have to do with

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the economy doesn't mean that he wasn't driving real hard on the virus. Yes. And some of those

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numbers might sound more close to accurate now, but he was saying them as the reality

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two and a half months ago. So they were not true then. No. That might lead to a little bit of a,

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like, it doesn't sound too far off, but no, not correct. Not the 65 million number though. That's

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still bullshit. Yeah. So Alex, you could just see an absolute desire to pretend the past and his

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rhetoric hasn't been what it has been. And I think once we get through this a little bit more,

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you'll start to understand exactly why that's the case. But Alex is thrilled with the idea that

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Trump is coming out and saying that, Hey, we got to get back to work. Got to do that. It's crazy.

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The number of jobs, almost 160 million. So we can't turn that off and think it's going to be

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wonderful. There'll be tremendous repercussions. There will be a tremendous death from that death.

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You know, you're talking about death, probably more death from that than anything that we're

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talking about with respect to the virus. Wonder who they're listening to.

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See, I don't go get talking points from globalist or DC. We showed you the university studies

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that the great depression killed 7 million people. Malnutrition. No, you didn't. That's

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7 million people. A number is not true. No university of Chicago. That's an erroneous

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stat based on flawed research that was put out specifically as anti-us pro-Sophia propaganda.

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Has never provided a real study to back up his claim. He makes the best he can do as an

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article in Pravda about the flawed research that has been widely discredited. But he told me that

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it was from the university universities, major university studies. What an asshole. The problem

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with Trump and Alex's argument about their desire to turn the economy back on as they put it is that

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it's dumb. The framing of that argument that they think that they're having is that the virus will

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cause X number of deaths, but to avoid those deaths, you need to shut down the economy

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temporarily, which could lead to Y number of deaths. According to them, if X is lower than Y,

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it's not worth it to shut down things in order to stop the virus. We should just take the hit and

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keep moving. Simple math. Their thinking is flawed because it's not a question of X number of deaths

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versus Y number of deaths. If you don't take this seriously and take some action now, we will get

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that X number of deaths from the virus, which will lead to a complete collapse of our medical system.

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And according to many experts, ultimately an even worse economic collapse than you would have had

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from a temporary shutdown. In effect, your options are Y or X plus Y. There is no X option that's on

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the table that is realistic or feasible. Yeah, but the right wing loves addition. They're not

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big fans of single variables, man. You gotta have two variables. You gotta smash them together.

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Silly. It's insane. In circumstances like this, you should always choose the option that's

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controllable. The amount of pain that could be caused by this economic shutdown is pretty high,

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but a lot of that pain can be mitigated by government action. There can be relief provided

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that if properly handled could minimize the amount of death that would be caused by a shutdown.

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That's a problem that can solve itself if we let it. The same is not true of letting the consequences

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of coronavirus just run free through the workplace and the population. The effects and consequences

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of that are fairly unpredictable outside of, you know, you could probably predict that it would be

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really bad. The unspoken argument that's being made here is that the well-being of corporations

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is more important than your life. Alex is trying to pretend that's not what he's saying by citing

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this bogus stat about starvation and the Great Depression, but mainstream right-wing talking

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point, the one that he's working off of, is exactly what you see on Fox News and from Glenn Beck.

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Glenn Beck said on his show on March 24th the same day as this episode that, quote,

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I would rather have my children stay home and all of us who are over 50 go in and keep this

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economy going and working. Even if we all get sick, I would rather die than kill the country.

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Trump's advisor Larry Kudlow appeared on Fox News and said, quote, the cure can't be worse than the

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disease and we're going to have to make some difficult trade-offs. The conversation that's

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happening on the right at this point is how, if it can help the stock market, thousands of deaths

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are an acceptable price to pay, or at the very worst a, quote, difficult trade-off. This is the

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talking point that Alex is putting forth with the cowardly mask of this fake Great Depression stat.

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Alex is arguing that the market is more important than public health, which should be a problem for

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him. For a guy who yelled about Obama death panels for years, for a guy who just as recently as a few

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days ago was ranting about Bill Gates and the, quote, case for killing granny, you would think

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that he would be against the idea of sacrificing human lives to serve the economic interests of the

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already very rich, but whatever. It does feel like the rich are just convinced that America

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is no longer capable of torches and pitchforks. They're just like, it's just never going to happen

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again so we can act with impunity. Alex would call that hubris. It does seem like hubris, but

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I don't know, maybe they're right. It does seem like they've convinced a large enough number of

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people to essentially act in ways that would kill themselves and hinder anybody else from doing it.

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I don't know, maybe it's just where we are, vassals, we're serfs now. That's just the rule.

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So Alex, Austin has put in place this, you know, stay at home situation. Yes. And Alex is very,

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very insistent that you know that Infowars is not involved in that and they are exempt.

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Here's the Travis County, Austin, Texas shutdown order that just came out one hour ago. Stay at

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home, work safe. Order 20200324-007 by the mayor of the city of Austin. And let me just turn here

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for you to page five of nine. News media, newspaper, television, radio, and other news

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media services are exempt. Still, no one will listen to me because it's too much fun to get

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hysterical. It's over for humanity. Last week, oh, you're going to be shut down. They thought

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the order was in place last week. I'm not sure why Alex always gets so defensive about the dumb

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people he talks to who are wrong about things. Like if his friends and associates thought they

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had to stay indoors by government decree like a week ago, that reflects poorly on them more

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than anything else. He knows uninformed people and I have no idea why he feels the need to insist

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that everyone is as dumb as his friends. Ah, no, they have secret knowledge. Also, I have no idea

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why he's making such a huge production out of proving that his business is probably technically

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considered an essential business according to the Austin stay-at-home order. It's very weird and I

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don't know what he's responding to. And also those numbers of the bill, the 20200324, that's just the

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date. No. Yeah. Don't you dare. But I mean, it is the title of the really did sound familiar. Yeah,

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it's just the date. So I kind of hate him. I was curious about this and I'm like, why is he so

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defensive about being exempt? Because he's not. Well, no, he is, but he gives a little bit of a

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clue here. And most of the crew, believe me, some of them didn't. They didn't believe me that the

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emergency wasn't in place last week. And they didn't believe me when I was holding the federal

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law, showing it to them. They're like, that's your opinion. They're great people. I'm just,

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I'll make a huge spectacle out of it on here if I have to. So this is starting to come into focus

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for me. I have a strong suspicion that this may at least be in part related to some members of

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Alex's staff not wanting to come in during the outbreak, which I completely understand.

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However, what I find interesting about that clip is that it tells us a lot about what

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Alex's employees seem to think about what he does. For one, he claims as an authoritative fact and

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even claims to have evidence that, you know, something, this thing that, you know, we're

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essential. And their response is, that's your opinion. That tells me that his staff know that

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Alex is full of shit and they don't trust him to know anything. The only reason you would ever

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respond to someone like that is if you don't believe them just by default. Yeah, that's,

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that has the sound of, of them just being like, buddy, we know you, we work for you,

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shut the fuck up. Yeah. We don't care what you have to say because you're a fucking liar. You're

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wrong all the time. All the time. Second, this tells me that at least some of the info staff

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do not feel like what they do is news. If Alex shows them this order that says that news

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organizations are clearly exempt and they're still not convinced of the point, then they must know

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that this isn't a news show. It's propaganda QVC. Third, and possibly most importantly,

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Alex's clue, Alex's crew has no idea what's going on in the real world. If they thought that there

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was a lockdown in place a week prior, then they're completely lost. These are the sorts of people

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Alex has working. It is alleged news operation. People have no idea what's happening around them.

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And that does explain a lot. So thank you for giving me that glimpse into, yeah, that's,

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that's a boss. That's a boss bitch and that his employees won't show up to work. Yeah. I think

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that's, that's probably what, what's the emotion behind it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So in this next clip,

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Alex gives a big brag that I think is incorrect. Is he going to start by saying he's not going to

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brag? No. Oh, he just brags. Okay. I can recite most of the bill of rights. Most? Probably 50

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times. I have constitutional lawyers on constantly and I'm on the phone with them all the time,

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every day. They're your lawyers. They've never read the constitution.

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And that's why I'm powerful. And I'm not saying that to go, I'm powerful. I am powerful because

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I have information. Knowledge is power. Information is power. And that's why they

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don't want you to have information because they want the power for themselves. But I want you

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to have the power. That is so lame. That's bad. Yeah. Yeah. I can recite most of the bill of rights.

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There's a amendment one, two, three. How many are in the bill of rights? I just know the second one.

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That's most of it. That's mainly the one. Yeah. The first one has a lot more words than I remember.

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I thought it was just, I get to say whatever I want to say, but I love that like knowledge is

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power after saying most. So that would suggest somebody who knows all of the bill of rights is

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far more powerful. Much more powerful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I would love the idea of like just

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being a guest in studio and it being like, I know most of the bill of rights. Say them. What are

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they? Name them right now. Right now. Right now. Right now. Right now. What's the sixth amendment?

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We don't talk about the sixth amendment that much. Tell me what the sixth one is. He has no idea. No

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clue. So in this next clip, Alex gets to talking about how, you know, media, the media is trying

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to take people's rights juxtaposed. The president said about not panicking and about America isn't

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a bunch of cowards with the nanny state. If we can save one life, we've got to shut everything

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down and you've got to carry a phone that tracks you and you've got to take an inoculation. And

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Bill Gates has a new tattoo where it stitches it into your skin. All right, but it's invisible

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except under a scan and it puts the actual micro microchips into your skin under the skin and

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sewn in. So you can't cut them out. Are they made of a big patch? Just two weeks ago, David Knight

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broke that. Now it's all over the news and China's doing it and everybody's doing it and it's all

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here. The mark of the beast, everything happening. Totally insane. The white house, what's the

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point? Totally insane. The white house were the ones who are trying to request the ability to

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track everyone by their cell phone data. It was that. That was not the media doing that. That was

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Trump and his employees. Alex can pretend all day that his hero isn't doing the exact same things

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that he's claiming the villains are doing, but that doesn't make it true. Also, that story about

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the vaccine tattoos is no more true than it was when it was a lie a few days ago. That's true.

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There's research into a possible invisible tattoo that could be used as a vaccine record,

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but it's nowhere near ready for implementation. The only citation Alex has about this is a

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headline that says, quote, Asia deploys innovative, if invasive tech to curb virus,

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which does not mention these tattoos at all, but kind of sounds like it might, if you only read

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the headline. It could if you weren't paying attention. Yes. You know what, honestly, there

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are so many things that could be in there if you weren't paying attention. Oh my God, just imagine

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what kind of innovative invasive tech might be in that article. Probably shoe knives. God, our show

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would be so much more interesting if I didn't read articles. You could be talking about shoe knives

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all day. So Alex is celebrating that the market is going back up because Trump is saying people

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need to go to work. I hate him. Let's look at a moment and see where the Dow Jones industrial

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average is today in this tug of war to drive it down. It's up. It's up. Wow. 1733 points

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because Trump said we're probably going to open for business in a couple of weeks.

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That's not a reason to go up. The stock market went up, but 5,000 points or so because they've

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been suppressing us by design and only letting you build in China and India and other areas.

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That's the global's plan. They guaranteed the Chinese century. And then once he got into

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office and went up even more. And so as soon as he's confident and has a response, but then says,

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Hey, are we a nation of cowards? Really? That's what he said. Then as soon as that balance comes

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in, there's confidence again in the markets, even though the Democrats are holding up the stimulus

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package and we'll give you the latest on that. Alex shouldn't be in favor of these bailouts.

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Half of his problem with Obama was supposed to be the stimulus package and how it was fiscally

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irresponsible. Alex can't keep his goddamn principles straight. It's just disorienting.

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This makes no sense. Also, I would like to make a formal prediction. I rarely make predictions

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on this show, but I feel 100% confident of this. If Trump does rush people back to work,

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Alex will celebrate it. Then if things get as bad as experts are suggesting that it could,

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Alex will pretend he wasn't in favor of that plan. And in fact, it was the globalists like Mnuchin

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who forced Trump to sacrifice the good people of this country to save the international bankers'

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money in the stock market. At the behest of all liberals everywhere. Totally. Especially led by

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Bill Maher. King of the left, Steve Mnuchin. Yeah, no kidding. This will almost certainly be how he

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rewrites it. I'm almost positive. It writes itself, really. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is not

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hard. Cause a disaster and then blame everybody else for it. It is like the stock market going

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up and down in the past few weeks has made me want to start fires because it's just pretend.

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Yeah. It goes up because he says something that he probably won't do. So there's a thousand points

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that go up and then tomorrow it's going to go down by a thousand points. It doesn't mean anything.

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No. It's empty. Why are we still pretending it does? It's very, it's very strange. It's kind of

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surreal to watch. It is. Yeah, yeah. It's like, what are we doing here? It does. I don't know

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about starting fires. I think that's irresponsible as someone whose house burned down. You're

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triggering me. Fair enough. I apologize. I apologize for that. I would say that it might

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be an indication that we need to rethink how that whole thing works. That's why. Once things settle

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down, maybe we take a look at this whole thing about markets. Absolutely. Let's figure out how

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to do this better. That's why we got to elect Joe Biden for president, Dan, and make sure that we

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get all of those. I think I read a tweet that he's never had stocks. I don't know if that's true or

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not, but I saw it on Twitter. Sure. Why not? So anyway, this next clip, I really, uh, I think that

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this is a pure form of Alex. I think this is really, um, his soul on display and he's reading

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a bunch of headlines that are people who have warnings about the disastrous consequences that

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could come from us not taking a very responsible pose towards the circumstances that we're in

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right now. Um, and how bad things could be. DC closes businesses. Louisiana has fastest growing

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case in the world. America, maybe the epicenter says the UN governors clamp down. Even as

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president considers easing reopening economy too early could backfire. Flood of unemployment claims

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sparks delayed checks. Goldman by gold. Now Italy may set heavy. What happens when all doctors are

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infected? What happens? What happens when you panic because you have it, but you're not even

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sick. Farewell. Invite students back to Liberty campus. Falwell. He's protecting them. Denver

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exempts pot shops, liquor stores from stay at home order, but gun shops closed. America

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is the center warning massive bailout bill close entire India lockdown virus lingers on

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service for 17 days. Just because Trump signaled a little bit of confidence, the stock market shot

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up 1700 points on the Dow Jones industrial average. That right there is the image I want

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you to keep in your mind of Alex Jones. As this gets worse and the realization that this isn't

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a globalist plot sets in, remember that fucking monster. Remember Alex Jones is the person who

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mockingly read headlines about the possibility of all doctors being infected with the coronavirus.

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Remember Alex Jones is the person who mockingly read a headline about the possibility that

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reopening businesses prematurely could have horrible consequences. Remember him like that

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because that's who he is. Alex has made all the money he can off this crisis, so he doesn't really

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give a shit anymore. He stopped selling the food buckets, most likely because he caused a run on

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his supplier who couldn't keep up with the artificially inflated demand. According to

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Infowars website as of March 25th, they're opening back up orders quote for a very limited time,

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but it's also being called pre-orders and there's like a 12-week delay on deliveries,

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so this is no longer going to be something he can push with the same intensity. If the whole idea is

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that the shit is about to hit the fan, so you need to act now to get this food, it's hard to balance

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that with buy this now and you'll get the food in like three months. At the same time, the New York

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Attorney General's letter clearly has had its effect and he knows better than to try and

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insinuate that his products are protection from or a solution to the virus, which is how he was

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marketing them for a stretch where, you know, he was more interested in making the audience afraid

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of the virus. There's no financial incentive in Alex making the audience afraid that way anymore,

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so he's not doing it. As it stands now, he has nothing to gain from making the audience afraid

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of the virus, so he's moved the rhetoric to the, eh, some people will get it, there'll be some

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deaths, but it's like the flu talking point because that's where it is. And because he's a psychopath,

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like most of them. Where is the money right now? The money is in not losing money and an economic

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shutdown stands to lose Alex a ton of money. He can make the argument all day that his business

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is exempt from the shutdown and he might be right, but in a time of difficulty and layoffs,

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how many of his ridiculously priced pills do you think he's going to be selling? When his listeners

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are choosing what's essential, do you think bone broth is going to make the cut? I think for a

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surprising number of people it will and that bums me out real hard. I don't think so. It bums me out

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real hard. This is Alex Jones, pure and simple. He may not have always been like this, but this is

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who he's grown into, a vapid, cruel, profiteering monster. And if you need any further evidence that

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Alex Jones is a piece of shit and he's only driven by his own bottom line, you can find it buried in

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that clip. You responded to it a little bit and it's this. Plot of unemployment claims, sparks,

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delayed checks, Goldman buy gold now. Right there, you see a momentary flash of him remembering that

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he used to make a lot of money selling gold off narratives just like this. He remembers it and

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there's a moment of, huh, but there's no money in it for him to pitch gold to his audience now,

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so he doesn't. That's the tell. That's how you know he doesn't mean what he sells. If he

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philosophically believed in buying gold, that part of his show wouldn't have curiously ended

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when Ted Anderson lost his precious metals license. If Alex believed the magical gold he

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sold his audience for years and then that was the answer to the imaginary financial collapse he kept

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prophesying, he would keep telling them to buy gold and he'd be telling people to buy gold now,

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even though he wouldn't be getting a cut. For the last months, we would have been hearing him being

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like, all right, everything's going to go to hell. Buy gold now. Hey, look, I don't have any

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a sponsor, but there's plenty of them. Go find somebody who sells gold. Yep. He doesn't do that

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because he's a fucking fraud. Dick. Yep. This guy sucks. I can't believe that they're, I can't

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believe how many people are buying the line, man. So many people are buying the line. Such a weird

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line. It's such a, the line is people are willing to die in a pandemic for you. That's wild. That is

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a wild line for the, for the, we should, Oh man. Yeah. Same. It's it's a mess. Yeah. We need to end

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abortion so we can kill the old people and then we'll restart. Whoa. Makes sense, man. So Alex

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goes to calls and he takes one call and, uh, I don't know. I don't think this guy's all that

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great. I went on a CDC website, cdc.gov, and I was trying to find the virus in the U S and I

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could not find anything or anything on there. Well, you got cities where there are hundreds

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of people that have it and nobody's died yet. So they're going to try to suppress those numbers as

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much as they can because the CDC is quietly working against Trump. She's about to get fired.

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So now he's finally saying Trump's doing a good job. I got to say it. There was a time when I

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would have said Trump would never fire the guy who's been the director of the national Institute

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of allergy and infectious diseases since 1984 in the middle of an active pandemic. Those days are

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gone. I give it a week max. I hear Alex say that and I don't think it would surprise me too much

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if he fired Fauci and replaced him like Jared Kushner or triple H. I don't know. Might as well.

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Also McMahon is free, right? Also Fauci's with the NIH, not the CDC. What are you going to do?

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I'll go ahead and sign off on half of what that caller is saying. Oh, and as much as the CDC's

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website is not the best depository of information, the information he's looking for is easily

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available though. I just, I don't, I don't know why he insists he has to find it on the CDC site,

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but I'll agree with him. Their website could be better. That's true. Also, if there are cities

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where they have confirmed cases, but not deaths, that does not necessarily mean that they will all

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be recoveries. It's also possible that these cases are still active cases. Something Alex is

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just seeming to pretend doesn't, doesn't exist. Doesn't happen. Anyway, this next clip was

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staggering. Everything in it is made up. Okay. Just about everything in this. Listen very

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carefully because there's a bunch of points where Alex is just like sort of, you can almost hear him

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in a writer's room. Yeah, yeah. Bouncing ideas off the wall. Blue sky thinking. Blue sky thinking.

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Yeah, it's shocking. This is all a globalist lockdown. So government can be a savior.

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And so big tech can push a forced inoculation. It's all about medical tyranny, but the virus

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is just now starting to explode. It is going to kill a bunch of old people and it'll kill some

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other people as well. Just like every other pneumonia virus or flu virus does in even

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greater numbers. And so, so this is just, they went, Oh, people aren't scared of old viruses.

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They're scared of new ones and they're scared of stuff out of China. So China took a real outbreak

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and some real problems, told their people, go ahead and videotape it, put it on the internet.

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They normally don't have any freedom to do that. You get locked up for that. And so they all,

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they did lock up. The party said the party controls everything. They put the word out,

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hype this up, hype the numbers up, hype the death numbers up. That's now Wall Street Journal admits

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China lied about the numbers. So they were much higher to get the maximum fear. Then they went,

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Oh, it's no problem. Now we're back to work. Knowing the globalist media would then hype up

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an 18 month shutdown on the U S as a giant psyop to where Trump didn't respond properly.

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Every death would be his fault. It is a cooked up globalist plot ordering the Chinese to do this

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with a manmade virus. So they would know the trajectory of it. This is wow. All made up.

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Wow. And what's amazing about it is a lot of it directly contradicts his previous narratives.

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This is staggering. I want to, I want to take this piece by piece, or at least a lot of these

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pieces because they are my brain. So a quote, they said people aren't scared of old viruses.

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They're scared of new ones. Alex is making that up. I would be dead certain that if a new vaccine

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resistant, widely transmittable polio showed up or like a vaccine resistant version of measles

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came around, people would be pretty fucking scared of old virus, old hat, boring. I think

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that would scare the shit out of me. Oh, are we going to watch reruns of the match game to Dan?

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No, we left that shit in the car sharks quote. They're scared of things out of China. So China

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took a real outbreak. So Alex thinks this is a real outbreak. I thought Obama sold it to China

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and they released it on themselves as a false flag or something. And it was a manmade weapon,

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but it's a real outbreak. Yeah. I don't know. Quote, China told their people go ahead and

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videotape that and put it on the internet. Right? So with no evidence, no supporting

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information at all, Alex has just decided to report that the Chinese government produced

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or facilitated all those videos that he's previously used to scare his audience, which is

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like this. I saw a haunting video last night. You probably won't be able to find this easily. It was

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in Chinese and it was just a video filmed in Ohan of all the apartment buildings at night in the

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background. And the screams, the haunting blood curdling screams from people, the mental anguish.

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I want to see this to us. I will. Yeah, we've got the link. So that was for February 24th.

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I guess that was a China putting out propaganda. The now Mike Adams and Alex are disseminating.

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It's, it's even more infuriating because they tried to stop it. They put the man who leaked

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it into jail and then let him die of coronavirus. No, no, no, no, no. It's the complete opposite.

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She was like, it's not even, it's not even wrong. It's demonstrably the opposite.

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Nah, that's a fake news. So the next piece quote, and so they did what Xi Jinping and the party

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said. They put the word out to hype this up. Alex is completely making that up. He has no evidence

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of it. It's completely pulled out of thin air as he's just riffing around quote, hype the numbers

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up, hype the death numbers up. Now that's now a wall street journal admits China lied about the

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numbers that they were much higher. First things first about who's specifically guilty of lying

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about inflated numbers out of China. You'd be wise to consider that Alex spent multiple days on his

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show back in early February, pretending that probably a glitch on a website had revealed

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secretly that there were actually over 24,000 deaths from coronavirus in China as of February

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6th. Coronavirus situation and all these top biological weapons experts and top scientists

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scanning the virus and saying it's manmade. We've got to get ahead of this. And if you notice

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the virus numbers, maybe we can punch those back up for a moment while we're waiting for the

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president. The official world health organization says 28,000 confirmed when I walked in here a few

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minutes ago, it was 24,000. But the internal Chinese numbers that leaked and were actually

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published in China by the People's Daily said 24,000 dead yesterday. So what we think they're

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doing is they're just putting the number of dead as the number of infected. Think about that.

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So that wasn't an isolated incident. Alex reportedly suggested that China was under

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reporting the number of sick and dead because at that point it was in his financial interest

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to make the virus itself seem as bad as possible and China as evil as possible.

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Like that is ridiculous. He's saying that China overinflated their numbers. He was the one who

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did that. Well, I mean, of course they did, Dan. He did it and he only has good ideas.

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But I guess if he thought that that 24,000 was actually China reporting that number as

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opposed to a propaganda narrative that him and his buddies cooked up claiming that China said

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that, then I guess that's probably what he's doing. But that means he's high on his own supply.

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Yeah. That's nonsense. No, I don't buy that. I have literally no idea what Alex is talking

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about when he says that the Wall Street Journal admitted that China lied about the numbers saying

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that they were higher than they actually were. I think he was just lying about that. I think so.

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I can find plenty of articles that suggest that there's a good chance that China, particularly

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in the early stages, underreported cases, but I legitimately can't find any credible source that

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suggested that they overreported. Now it's in Alex's financial interest to downplay the virus

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itself and focus on building a narrative that China intentionally built up some kind of hype,

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so he's completely fabricating a story about Xi commanding people to take videos and Wuhan to

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scare the Americans. If that was Xi's plan, though, Alex did a great job of playing his part in it.

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So then he goes on, quote, it's a cooked up globalist plot ordering the Chinese to do this

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with a man-made virus. Which was a real outbreak, but it was a man-made virus made the real outbreak

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that the Chinese, I guess, but it's all, I mean, it's all completely made up. Yeah. So then it's,

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so even internally in this little chunk right here, it's not possible for the Chinese to have

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taken a real outbreak. Well, I mean, I guess it depends on what you define as a real outbreak.

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I guess, but then it's still just, there's a way to overcomplicate things and make a man-made virus

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a real outbreak. I'm going to say, I'm going to, I'm going to pass on that. So the virus isn't

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man-made and Alex has absolutely no evidence that these unnamed and shadowy globalists told the

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Chinese government to do anything. Also in bad news for Alex, an article recently came out from

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the Scripps Research Institute that completely ruins the man-made virus theory. Christian

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Anderson, the author of the study, said, quote, by comparing the available genome sequence data

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for known coronavirus strains, we can firmly determine that SARS coronavirus 2 originated

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through natural processes. They found solid evidence of a natural origin for the virus,

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and more importantly disqualifying evidence that it was made in a lab. One of the main pieces of

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evidence on that front was that they found that the virus has a unique backbone. Whereas if

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someone were trying to create this in a lab, they would have to use an existing virus as backbone

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or the basic molecular structure, and then they would build the virus from there. Right, right,

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right. They can't just build a virus from scratch. They wouldn't be able to, because they wouldn't

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know if the backbone would be able to infect people. Right, right, right. It would take a

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massive amount of research necessary to manufacture. It would be disqualifying. It would preclude you

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from being able to do that. Yeah. The fact that the coronavirus has its own backbone essentially

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disqualifies it as possibly being lab-created, and the fact that its backbone is very similar

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to related viruses known in the wild makes the possibility of it being a product of natural

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evolution incredibly, almost absolutely, definitively likely. Sigma-5, yeah. Yeah.

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I guess you can believe all these scientists whose article is published in the Nature Medicine

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Journal, or you can believe Alex Jones, who just makes things up to suit whatever mood he's in on

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a given day. You can choose. Or the president, whatever. You can choose whatever you want to do

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there. Yeah. So that clip is all just made up. All the little pieces of it. And you even

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found two things in there that are specifically counter to reality. And I certainly, you know,

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great. But they're counter to his reality. Exactly. That's what's so abusive about this.

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Yeah. It hurts me. And all of this made-up shit is in service of justifying the deaths of so many

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people. Potential deaths, yes. Yeah. Well, I mean, in his mind, they're already done,

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because that's what he's saying right there. He's saying, look - He has many times said,

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we're all dead already. Old people are going to die. Some young people are going to die, too.

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And then he goes on this whole thing. So all of this is in justification for what he thinks has

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already happened. You know, what's inevitable, which is the deaths of so many hundreds of

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thousands of people. Yeah. Cool. But that's because you have to be more scared about the

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Great Depression that will be coming because seven million people starve to death during it.

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We'll have more food. President Trump is out promoting courage, saying America wasn't built

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to shut down and cower in fear. Maybe we should rebuild it. The Chi-Com economy is back up and

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running and that we're going to have real mass death in this country. That we have the food

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supply breakdown and depression. Seven million, it's estimated by major universities, starve to

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death during the Great Depression. Watch The Grapes of Wrath. It's basically a documentary.

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Major universities again. Grapes of Wrath is a documentary. That sounds right. So much of

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the rhetoric is entirely based just on this image of the seven million dead in the Great Depression.

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It's lazy. It's lazy work. So Alex has read an article or headline in foreign policy

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pissed him off. The media wants 18 months. The UN, the CFR. I have articles here from the Council

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on Foreign Relations where they say the shutdown must be totaled. It must be complete. Sorry,

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America. The full lockdown is coming. This was from a week ago. And when I read this from

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foreignpolicy.com, I went, oh, that's the CFR for the Washington Post. I clicked on Laura Garrett.

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She's a Council on Foreign Relations fellow. And she talks about, sorry, America's over.

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Sorry, you'll not see anyone again for months and months and months. And yes, you're going to have

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a depression. It's liberal. That's how their investments. I bet she's heavily invested in

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China. They all are. That's them trying to prop up their investment. They bet against America.

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You lost, lady. So I read that article that Alex is talking about, and it's just this writer

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posting an op-ed that has a position that people should start to consider the fact that things may

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get worse. And it would be wise to observe the examples of countries a little further down the

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path, like Italy, to get a sense of what could be coming. I grant that some of the stuff is pretty

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stark and may come off as a little bit extreme, like, you know, having a saying goodbye to friends

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for a while, you know, like that kind of thing. But Laurie Garrett is basically just writing a

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piece that's meant to offer some realistic concrete advice for people who might end up

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in a similar position as people in Italy are in now. Alex didn't look up Garrett and find out

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that she's CFR. That's in her bio. It's in the article. But Alex fails to point out that she is

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a, quote, former senior fellow for global health at the Council on Foreign Relations. Former. Steve

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Pechenik's former CFR. Alex also left off a few relevant things about her resume, like how she won

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the 1996 Pulitzer Prize for explanatory journalism for her work covering the outbreak of Ebola.

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Hmm, I don't think she has any relevant expertise, though. Ebola is a different thing. She's won two

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Polk Awards for books covering public health crises, so I think that she's a bit of - Why would

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anybody talk to her on this? Sure. Alex is just making up that she's invested in China. He has

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absolutely no idea who she has investments in, even if she even has any. He's just coming up

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with a fabricated accusation he can use to tarnish her credibility because that's the level of work

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that he does and his audience accepts it. And I'm gonna be - I will agree with him this one time.

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It is - I consider it to be far more liberal to choose Great Depression over mass graves.

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I'm gonna go with - Yeah, I'm fine with that. I am going to say that you can paint me that way

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if you want to because the opposite means you would rather choose mass graves over a recession.

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So, fuck off. So, Alex is really pushing - The sort of main prongs that I see of his

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everyone-go-back-to-work-minimizing-the-virus narrative are the seven million people die

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to starvation in Great Depression. That's one. And then the other prong is everybody dies from

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the flu, particularly people in Italy. Right. Most Italians have left. Italy was, I guess,

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peak almost 100 million. 60 million people have 60, 70,000 deaths a year from flu. We are 300

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plus million. We have 35,000. Why? Well, because you made up that. Yeah, because it's imaginary.

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Right. So, Alex is talking about, like, it's no big deal. You get the coronavirus, right?

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It'll incubate for a while, then you're sick for a little bit. It's all good. No big deal.

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If you're not super ill - Also, people think they had it months ago.

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It incubates for 10 to 14 days, then it takes seven to nine days while you're sick,

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and then after that, you're not even communicable. So, people have respiratory issues. People have

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flu. They have colds. They have pneumonia-type stuff. Let them die. I think they're dying.

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So, I mean, Alex has the basic incubation period correct here, and there's some preliminary

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research showing that it can last about 10 days of active illness, but the point Alex is driving

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at here is absurd. Some studies have suggested that you are the most contagious in that period

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when you don't know you have the virus, when you're asymptomatic. So, if everybody follows

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his advice of only practicing some distancing if you feel really sick, there's a really good

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chance this will spread completely out of control. The bigger issue I have here is how this is a

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complete betrayal of Alex's established narrative about the virus. He's saying that it's no big

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deal. It incubates for about two weeks, then you get about a week and a half of sickness,

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and after that, it's clear skies. What are you going to do? It's a bad month, huh?

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One of the major consistent features of Alex's content over the past weeks has been about how

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this is a secret new HIV that the globalists have unleashed on the population, and part of that,

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in his mind, is that even after you recover, the coronavirus keeps coming back. They have introduced

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airborne 2.0 HIV, and nobody's getting away from it. Everybody's already got it.

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And six months from now, when the kids are everywhere, that's what Trump knows,

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he has been trying to hold back the kids, and I understand why. Well, he tries to assess what's

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happening. That one still hurts. When everybody finds out that basically 90%, it's not going to

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be 70%. We told you, you know, six weeks ago, it'll be probably half. No. Everyone's going to

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get this. You could go hide out in a basement somewhere. You're not getting away from it,

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because once it gets in a body, the human body incubates it, spews it out. It's a tiny

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bioweapon virus that floats around, lasts days even in the sunshine, and it's coming for you.

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I think this is a serious threat, and it's going to go-

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I've never heard you this alarmist before.

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No, well, here's the thing. If it comes back again and again, the person, in fact,

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they've already seen it- And if it isn't as bad as we think, we at least did what we had

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to. Yeah, well, reinfection is more dangerous. I just saw an article-

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Oh, that's confirmed. It's like AIDS. It comes back. HIV.

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And the second time it comes back, it attacks your heart.

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This has been a standard element of the story about the virus that Alex has used to create

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the fear in his audience. You can see now how that element is no longer useful to him,

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so he just discards it entirely, which he's capable of doing because he was just making

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it up to begin with. He doesn't believe any of the shit he's saying, so once something's

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no longer in his interests, fuck it. And then maybe a week from now, if he wants to,

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he can just be like, oh, remember when I said it keeps coming back? Then this, what he's

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saying now, will be forgotten and ignored.

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Okay, so you're a couple weeks. It's incubating. You're not even sick, right?

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Then you're sick for a couple of weeks. No big deal. Then you're fine for a couple of

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weeks while the virus re-germinates inside you, and you're sick for a couple of weeks.

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That gives you 50% of the year. That's fine, Dan. That's not bad.

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And you can be at the office.

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We've got to keep the economy going.

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Right. So Alex goes to calls, and he takes another call who's dumb.

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Yeah, I mean, they had articles out. I was just reading that they were expecting Italy

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to have the worst flu season, the most deaths back the first of January. You know, are these

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deaths even, are they more than normal? Are there hospitals, you know, they're showing

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us they're overwhelmed.

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No, that's right. New York Times, Washington Post, all in January said Italy previously

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lost 70,000 in one year. Now they're starting to lose even more in 2020. And now we're told

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it's corona.

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Ba ba ba.

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I mean, how many of them? I mean, the coronavirus has been around forever. Are all these flu

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deaths that they say flu and corona every year of some other strain of coronavirus?

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I have bad news for this caller. The article he's referring to about Italy having its worst

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flu season in 14 years is from the local. And if he checked the date on that article,

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he would see that it's from January 19th, 2018.

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Oh, no, you don't have to check the dates on it.

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That article describes a very high number of flu cases, approximately 3.8 million between

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September 2017 and January 14th, 2018. This is about where the country hit the peak of

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a particularly bad flu season, the worst in 14 years. And this gigantic number of flu

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cases resulted in 140 serious hospitalizations and 30 deaths. There is another article in

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the local about the 2019-2020 flu season from January 2020, which reports a slightly lower

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number of total cases, which had resulted in 240 deaths. These numbers are much lower

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than the expected actual death toll from influenza-like diseases and related complications

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each year in Italy, but it's legitimately nowhere even close to where Alex and his dumb,

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dumb caller are suggesting. This caller has no idea what he's talking about and Alex doesn't

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either, but it sounds good to this new framing, so he throws in his 70,000 died here in Italy

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from the flu, that stat that he's fallen in love with, and now he can suggest to his audience

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that Italy is just faking this whole thing. Toss it into the bowl. Just put it into the

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mixture. We're making jungle juice, Dan, with all of our lies. So this is all bullshit,

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right? But you got to consider Alex's resume. I don't. Thank you so much. I have a question,

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but before that question, I just want to let everyone out there know that it's a new

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caller to Infowars, how important you are to this Infowar and to this country. Alex Jones,

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for anyone that doesn't know, is the person that discovered and got into Bohemian Grove,

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the person that exposed Janet Reno and the Clintons during the Waco Massacre with Posse

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Comitatus on her own American soil, the Clinton Foundation, David Gergen. That interview is still

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on YouTube, and if anyone wants to see something amazing, it's when you went into Bohemian Grove

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and then you confronted David Gergen and he was completely spooked. Amazing. You're right. We

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need to get all of those famous reports that people don't know about that were so, so revealing

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and repos so since most of it was taken off YouTube and banned on video. This caller is

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so indicative of a person who's just accepted everything Alex says is true with no interest

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in reality. Alex didn't discover Bohemian Grove. There were plenty of people who talked about it

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prior to him from the mainstream media to a 1989 piece in Spy Magazine, all well before Alex did

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his publicity stunt. Alex didn't expose Janet Reno or Hillary Clinton during Waco. For one,

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that's rewriting history a little bit with the lens of the Hillary obsession, considering there

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was Bill who was president back then, but let's just forget about that. She was the shadow

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president, Dan. Second, Alex did get a lot of attention for trying to help rebuild the Branch

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Davidian Church in Waco, and it was a huge part of his early identity, but he didn't expose

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anything. The standoff happened in 1993, years before Alex is on the radio, but you know who

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was on the radio already? Bill Cooper. You guessed it. Bill did tons of episodes about Waco and

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interviewed a lot of the people who Alex uses as big sources, like Linda Thompson and her pseudo

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documentary The Big Lie. Alex hasn't broken any actual stories about the Clinton Foundation. He

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has yelled about them a bunch, though, so there's that. Alex's interview with David Gergen is kind

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of funny, but I don't know if it really achieved anything. It's just Alex telling David Gergen that

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he snuck in with a camera to Bohemian Grove and Gergen saying, hey man, that's not cool. You're

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supposed to keep that stuff secret. If Alex had captured any footage that elicited a response

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in me and beyond like, man, that's weird, then maybe this would have been a gotcha moment,

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but from everything Alex has in his documentary, I don't think I care if people at the Grove keep

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what they do their secret. This caller is such a great example of someone who doesn't stand a

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chance. He's willing to believe that Alex Jones is fighting a completely unspecific but totally

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real enemy that seems to change their plans based on Alex's whims who are super powerful to the

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point of controlling pretty much all the world, but can't seem to handle a dumb radio host who

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can't be bothered to read things past headlines. His caller is willing to believe that because he

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too cannot be bothered to read past headlines. No, that's it's hard. It's hard. It's a cyclical

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thing. It is. It is like sometimes you look at this and you think maybe people are just too dumb

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to live. You know, like as a whole, like sixty percent of people approve of how Trump is handling

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this shit. He's killing us. What is it? That's what you find, but I can't. I don't. Who are

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these people? It's tough, but you know, too dumb. We're just too dumb. We're just too dumb.

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Speaking of people who are dumb, we got Alex talking about Missouri Congressman, Congressperson

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Josh Hawley. Oh God. And Senator from Missouri, Hawley, he came out and Hawley and said China's

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got to pay. They're behind this whole damn thing with the globalist. I mean, they brag in the CFR.

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They brag that they moved everything to China with one side of deals. It's called treason.

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Josh Hawley sucks, but Alex is still kind of lying about what he said. Of course he is. Hawley went

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on Hannity on Tuesday to promote his call for a quote, internal investigation into China's actions

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related to the outbreak. Alex wants the audience to think that this matches up with his narratives

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about the globalists telling China to release a bioweapon or some shit, but it doesn't. Hawley is

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just talking about the accusation that China didn't act promptly and tried to cover up the initial

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outbreak. This is basically just a young Republican Senator saber rattling at China to keep the base

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happy while also doing some timely scapegoating to distract from the fact that their party's

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president has handled this outbreak as poorly as one probably could. Although, wait, to be fair,

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there is the fact that Trump secretly ordered an emergency months before he actually did, but also

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Alex has stopped saying that because he's not really interested in that anymore. It's really

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hard to defend. That narrative has kind of fallen away. It's hard to defend. Oh, also the millions

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of deaths that his fake lieutenant colonel friends told him, but he shouldn't be talking about that.

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There's that. Right. You know, you say that weird. All right. Weird. Crazy. Yeah. These, these,

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these times, Dan, you know, people expect you to remember what happened two weeks ago,

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two weeks ago. That was six years ago. Yeah. So what Alex is doing is basically changing a whole

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bunch of like really central things. It seems, or things that seemed kind of important, um,

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because Trump, he needs to stay in line with Trump. Yeah, absolutely. But he doesn't just

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want to defend Trump. It's not like I even want to defend the president. He's like always in the

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right. And they're always lying about what's really going on. Just like they do about info

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wars. I'm going to tell listeners again, I'm not saying you shouldn't take this virus seriously.

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I'm not saying you shouldn't get ready for it. I'm not saying it isn't going to kill some people,

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but who's telling us what to do. The media that says they want to crash the economy. And it is.

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And they're saying China, don't worry about it. That's all forgotten. They say it didn't come

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from China. It's not a Chinese virus. It's Trump's fault. So Trump has to go back and remind

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everybody that he tried to block the air travel and the Democrats said, don't do it. Now they're

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blaming him for not doing enough. Once it's gotten into the country, they have their dirty

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heat state fingerprints all over it. Yuck. Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck. Oh boy. Yup. Oh man. Yup. We

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have leaders in this great time. I do. True. True leaders. So Alex goes back for break and he takes

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another caller and this caller, man, if there is a bad idea, this is it. What would happen if there

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were a massive protest in Washington, DC with conservatives and liberals side by side protesting

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the grievances for the liberties seized by our own government? Well, I think down the road,

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even a month or so, this isn't turned around. We're going to have to have that March to show

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we are not afraid. We are not afraid. This is not America. This is not how America was founded. We

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are not afraid. We are not cowards event. And we'll have to encourage the police and military,

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everybody else to join us because this is a shy hop. It's all about fear. As the president said,

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that's a real bad idea, but I thought that it was a joke when, uh, cause I saw some people,

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I think that Facebook post is a joke. That's what I thought. I thought it was a joke because you

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know, the post of like rally for conservatives in the, yeah, that whole thing. I think that's a

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joke. It has to be. Yeah. But this guy's not joking. No. Which concerns me about that being

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a joke. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, it's exactly what you would expect. Yeah, I know. It's just that

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sort of oppositional defiance in the face of like, it's like someone yelling at a hurricane

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or something like that. You know, a million man March, everybody arm and arm walking down the

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fucking straight. Yeah. So he gets another caller who is even, man, these callers are just

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whiffing all over the place. Just they're all coronavirus. They're all like, uh, uh,

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striking out swinging. Yeah. I really see that they're trying to shut down America and they're

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trying to shut down the other countries worldwide. And it makes me wonder like, why are they

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releasing all these inmates for like, I never seen this happen before. We should have a March,

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I guess, ruckus cause chaos. Absolutely. All of these cities are releasing hardened criminals,

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not to stop the virus, but to create as much bedlam. So this caller seems to think there's

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some kind of a supervillain plot going on, like where the Joker Springs, all the inmates from

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Arkham to overwhelm a Gotham's police department. That's legitimately what these idiots think is

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happening because their worldview is so based on fiction that reality and comic books are

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indistinguishable. I'm going to help this call her out. Here's the situation you end up with.

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When you have an active pandemic and prison overcrowding, you can either release a ton of

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nonviolent and parole eligible offenders in order to create room for the responsible administration

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of incarceration and health services for the violent offenders you want to keep in jail.

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Or you can keep everyone in jail and risk horrific consequences. One possible outcome is an outbreak

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spreading in an overcrowded prison, which is actually happening right now on Rikers Island.

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No. According to slate, there are currently 52 people at Rikers who have confirmed cases and 96

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more under observation. There are 5,000 people incarcerated there and the way the jail is set up,

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there's almost no way to stop the spread of this virus since people are housed in such close

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quarters and the jail is not equipped to be sterilized with sufficient regularity to fight

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an outbreak. And this is the first time I've ever thought Rikers Island was a bad idea. Right. Given

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a situation like that, you end up in a position where you can act either by releasing people

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incarcerated for minor offenses or dumping millions into building new housing wings or

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something like that, or you can watch as prisoners die locked in cells. You can tell yourself that

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they're in prison and they matter less, but if you do, you're a piece of shit. I mean the 13th

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amendment does tell you that they're in prison and they matter less than everybody else. Now,

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the other possible consequence is an offshoot of this one. If you have a large incarcerated

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population or being held in these sorts of conditions where everyone around them is sick

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and dying and there's a reasonable expectation they're going to get sick too, what's to stop

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anyone from rioting? If guards get sick too, the security staff could be run thin and you might

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put yourself in a position where there's complete chaos at prisons. If you care it all about people

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or if you're just interested in keeping dangerous offenders in jail and you're not a dumb-dumb,

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the only right choice you can make right now is to free as many non-violent offenders as you can.

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If Alex thinks drugs should be legal and, you know, there's a guy who's in prison for selling

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weed, why the fuck would Alex not support letting him out no matter what the circumstances?

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He doesn't want to, look, he doesn't want to appear weak on the innocent, Dan. That's what

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he doesn't want you. Look, everybody's like, oh, we got to be mean to the guilty. Let me tell you

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something. It's the innocent you really got to take down. You got to imprison them for life.

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Whatever. Also, it's not just blue states. Ohio was releasing inmates from Cuyahoga County jail

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and their governor is Mike DeWine, who's a Republican. Around the world, a lot of places

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are releasing inmates, but not in a like positive way. Like they're getting out through combining

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together in their efforts and just breaking free of the fucking prison. Otherwise, they're getting

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killed. So Alex, he watched Hannity, of course. Because he's got a lot of new ideas. And he's

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going to use a segment on Hannity in order to help him with a sales pitch. What a coward.

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The New York doctor, Hannity's released the info, said he had 350 patients with the coronavirus

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and had a 100% success rate of curing them with three things. And guess what we've been saying

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on air for a long time? Zero deaths, zero hospitalizations, zero innovations.

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Guess what's on the list. It starts with a Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z. Sleep? Unbelievable.

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To be clear, Alex is only excitedly reporting on this because it's a way for him to help sell his

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real red pill supplement that has zinc in it. The other avenues for him to scare monger aren't as

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open to him anymore. So this is his best approach. Go really overboard on the zinc thing. And

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honestly, like he can't help himself. He has this method of selling and whatever is the avenue

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that's going to be like, you know, no attorney general wrote me about the zinc yet. And he might

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be in a much more defensible place there because there are like health benefits of taking zinc.

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Yeah. But they're not solving coronavirus. Oh, I'll tell you they're not. 97 to 99% effective

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in killing the viruses. Yeah. I think he might be, like I said, he's going way overboard.

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He's going for letters. But it probably feels a lot safer to him than a lot of the others.

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He knows what zinc is. The problem is nobody knew what nano silver was, but now that they

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know it's zinc, they'll be like, ah, that's fine. So the whole story here is that Sean Hannity

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claimed that he had a letter from a New York doctor who said that he had about 500 patients

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and he cured them all with not just zinc, but also hydroxy chloroquine. And is it through

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myosin? Steve Pachannik works at the New York hospital. That's not him. Oh, okay. Also,

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there's no proof that this is a real letter or a real doctor. There's no proof that this alleged

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doctor has in fact cured anyone. This could legitimately all be bullshit. But even if it

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is a real doctor and he has this many patients recovered from this drug cocktail, it's still

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not sufficient to claim that the drugs caused the recoveries. There could be any number of

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reasons that they recovered completely unrelated to the drugs. You need to have much more data

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to back this up. And you don't know how science works. These people do not care at all.

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So we've had some dumb callers and I regret to inform you that this one takes the cake. Is it

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Mike Adams? No. And the other thing I wanted to throw out, and this is a really radical idea that

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I'm not saying that I believe, but I felt like I would throw it out there because there's a doctor,

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Dr. Terry Tillert. T-I-L-L-A-A-R-T has done a webinar on Facebook. It was posted to his page

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on the 22nd of March of this year. It says there is no virus. There are no viruses. Five experts

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weigh in, one of them being John Rappaport. Well, I like John, but I don't think he's...

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Did John say the most interesting thing is viruses? Well, I'm not saying that he says that,

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but he's one of the ones that was interviewed on this webinar. There's two important things.

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Alex does not tell her, like, this is ludicrous. You don't listen to people like that. People are

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saying there are no viruses. Viruses don't exist. Right. You didn't realize that virus denial is a

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thing. He is in a position where, like, he responds to her like, well, you know, you got to have the

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conversation. Let's entertain this idea that maybe viruses don't exist. Second important thing,

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Alex wasn't sure if John Rappaport does believe in viruses. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You should be sure of

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that. Yeah. That's a thing you should be sure of. I like John Rappaport, but I don't think he thinks

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that viruses are fake. Does he? That does sound like something he could believe, though. Alex

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does not know the beliefs of the people that he promotes as experts. I can't imagine why people

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wouldn't want to show up to work. That's not good. No. I think that John Rappaport's part in that

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video. I was going to watch it, but it's really long. He's just hanging up a picture. I don't even know

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John Rappaport is in it, but I think he's used as an expert, but it's just for HIV AIDS denialism.

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So that's the section of the thing that Rappaport's involved in. Great. Speaking of experts who Alex

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doesn't know what they're up to, Steve Pechenik is on, and his main point is basically just to be

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like, hey, man, business is all that matters in America. I agree with Trump, and I've always

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agreed with the notion that he has the instincts to bring us back to our business. The business of

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America is business. It does not shut down for any epidemic. It does not shut down for the coronavirus.

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It doesn't shut down of Martians attack because that's our lifeblood. We can't shut it down.

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We are the business. We are the economy, and that's it. Man, the only thing we have is all of us

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collecting and finally just being like, oh, I get what these guys were doing the whole time. Man, if

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you go back and you listen to Alex Jones's piece in Richard Linklater's Waking Life, where he's

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driving around in the street yelling into a bullhorn about how like humanity is too good.

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We're going to, we're going to create things that represent the human spirit. Like you take that in

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like 2020, he's on the radio, he's like, business is all that matters. You dick. All of those people who are

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going to create things out of the human spirit. Look, you got to deliver food. I was just talking

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about corporations. Stock the groceries so Amazon can make all the money. Right. Jeff Bezos needs to

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feed. So Steve, his position on this is not based on any science I can find particularly.

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He's giving out some bad advice. What Fauci and nobody's ever talked about is that there's passive

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immunity. Those of us who had pneumonia, those of us who are 77, I'm no spring chicken. I have

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immunity. That means I can go in and work. There are a lot of people who had some cold in December

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or January. There's no question in my mind that they were affected with a flu and they have

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immunity. They go to work. I don't think that you should listen to that advice. I don't, I don't

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believe that to be based on any studies or any data. That's dangerous. What he's referencing

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is basically how cowpox helped you grant immunity to smallpox. That's his concept there.

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However, he doesn't understand that viruses, like a flu isn't going to fix, isn't going to provide

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immunity to the influenza virus is a different thing. Right. I mean, it's the same thing with

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Alex talking about like quinine being helpful for a virus because it solves malaria. It's like

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malaria is not a virus. It's not caused by a virus. Absolutely. It's yeah, they're playing

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real fast and loose here. That's unbelievable. These guys are just really trying to get people

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killed. So Steve thinks like you just get a cold. You're cool from now on. You're fine. You're not

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going to get it. And that means he's at odds with the world. Well, certainly public health officials,

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but that soon won't matter because as he has said in the past and he reiterates, he wants them all

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fired. Unfortunately, Trump had to rely on some of these people and I recommended Fauci initially,

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but the point is at some point in time, the surgeon general of the United States really is making

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comments. We don't need, I don't need him in the uniform. Replace him with Ivanka.

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I don't need Tony. They keep contradicting. French studies shows malaria drug is helpful.

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Hey, these studies show the G packs helpful. You were saying that here on air two months ago,

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he's the president. He's allowed to tell people, Hey, we've got some really promising treatments,

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especially when it's true. No, of course it's true. That French study is flawed.

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But I love the idea that first of all, Steve in the middle of all, this is just like fire. All

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of them get rid of, we don't need, we need chaos in the public health sphere. That'll really inspire

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confidence in first of all the markets and in the population. I want to love it. And then also like

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it was only a couple of weeks ago that Steve was on the show and thought there wasn't a surgeon

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general and now he wants him fired. Yeah, absolutely. There wasn't supposed to be a surgeon

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general. He was saying that Trump needed to appoint a surgeon general. Well, he appointed

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the wrong one. He didn't appoint after. Anyway, Steve is not bringing his best today. So Alex,

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like I said, he can't help it. He can't help himself in his sales practices because as the

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show goes on, he starts to like really push the idea that this zinc that's in his real red pill

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is a preventative of will have the preventative effect with the coronavirus. People are scared.

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They understand that it's a lot of time, but some of it's real. So what do you do though? If you're

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not sick yet, you're not going to get the Z pack till you're sick. What do you do to prevent? The

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word is it's zinc. We'll be right back with Dr. Steve Pachani. I don't know how much that is

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illegal, but it feels, I mean, if, if making the claim, what do you do to prevent? Yeah. I mean,

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like that's, yeah, because the issue is like, you're not supposed to sell things except for,

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I think as cures, preventions or treatments. I don't know. I don't know. It's iffy. Yeah,

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no, he's, he's, this is, these guys, like it has to be a thing where at the end of all of this,

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we do have to like get Alex and Hannity and Tucker Carlson and like put them on trial. Well,

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this is a civil trial. Yeah. This is a serious, you guys are actually going to get people.

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Trump already got people killed. They should, you know, like Trump should be in jail. I do think

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that if there is ever like a return or return to a bit of sanity, they should be at least bankrupted.

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Absolutely. Absolutely. This cannot, this is unacceptable. So Alex goes to calls Steve leaves

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and he wraps up the show talking to some dumb dumbs. And this guy allegedly has a distant

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relation. Who's a nurse and she's treated Corona patients successfully with tonic water. Now see

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if you can keep track of who this nurse is to the guy who's the caller. This is an issue.

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If you're giving me this preamble, that's a problem. It's a bit of a maze.

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Last week, my lady friend's granddaughter and boyfriend came over to visit the boyfriend's

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mother as a head nurse in a hospital in Austin. She told her son that they're using tonic water

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to cure people with a coronavirus in the hospital. Yeah.

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Wow. Tell us more of what she said, because that's what

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quinine is in these four. It's from the British army, making the troops drink this

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twice called tonic. It means medicine. Sorry. I forgot Steve was still there.

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So it's this guy. I've written it down. Okay. I've written it down. So his girlfriend. It's

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this guy's lady friend's granddaughter's boyfriend's mom. That's a game of telephone

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right there. So obviously he didn't talk to the mom. I would assume. Nope. He might have

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talked to the grandson who talked to the mom. Maybe. Or the grand daughter's boyfriend. The

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boyfriend of her granddaughter. Right. But he might have talked directly to the boyfriend.

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Possible. So that's still second hand to him. The third hand to Alex. Yes. Ridiculous. Oh,

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boy. That's how I want my information coming. My great grandfather's sister's daughter's

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friend who is a nurse, but she's been retired for 28 years. She has a second daughter whose

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cousin is a doctor, and they were dead. Right. So we have one last clip from the 24th here,

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and it's another caller who has cured himself. Of course. He had a virus. I hate these people.

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Had this coronavirus back at the same time I think Steve had it. The first of January.

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And I told my mother at the time I called her up. I said, I think I got the flu, but this

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ain't the flu. I think I got that Rona. I cured it with a colonial silver extract and a China

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root. It took me about seven days to get over the bad cough and everything, but I cured it.

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Well, I know that's what I did. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Don't they have like a bleep button that

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somebody could push the five second delay on? The thing that is probably okay about that is that's

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a testimonial. That might be not true, but he probably believes it to be true. Of course.

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And so I don't know. It's still super misleading. I do like the idea that,

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look, after six or seven days of having this virus that I have been told by a large number of people

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can last six or seven days and many people get a minor version of it and then it's over,

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I actually cured it with colloidal silver and elderberries. And it's not like it just

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ran its course. No, I cured it. Yep. That's what I did. I'm basically Jonas Salk. I pretty much

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invented medicine. So we get to the 25th and boy, I'll tell you what, there is a return much like

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John Cena coming back to the Royal rumble. Is there, is this Aragorn? No, it's fentanyl,

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the Chinese dragon.

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Hey man, you know, what, uh, what better time to throw out some, uh, real racism,

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uh, some real pointed, pointless racism. That's not okay. Is there anybody stopping him from doing

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this at a time when Asian Americans are reporting increased hostility and, uh, uh, racist abuse

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being directed towards them. Certainly great to see Alex taking the time to, uh, uh, do, uh,

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start his show with a absurd, uh, racist sketch. Hey, there's no crisis. You can't try and turn

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into a genocide. Yep. So Alex transitions from that, uh, prerecorded, uh, fentanyl,

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the Chinese dragon segment into another impression. Uh, he has a mask and so he's

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doing a bane impression. We will break your capitalist system. Finally. Now only now

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will you experience it. Oh, it's much better. They thought it'd be a nice stuff for me to wear

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one of these, but my head is just too big. 19 inch neck. That's a big neck. That's a big neck.

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That's a big neck. Tough to get a suit. So Alex, uh, leads the show off. He out,

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he's finished the impression. No fucking around. That was the impression. That was the whole

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thing. Yeah. It wasn't a good impression. I didn't say it was good. Oh. Um, but, uh,

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no fucking around. Can you do a bang? No. And I refused it. Okay. Uh, but, uh, Alex has some

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headlines. You know, buried in a federal law was a overturning of a second amendment that passed

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13 years ago. Yeah. The story just went live on news. Wars.com and enforce.com. You might want

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to raise the alarm. So these guys, the tip of the spear, uh, didn't know for 13 years that the

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second amendment has been abolished. They live under Cinderella rules of law like that. It's

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midnight. So it doesn't count. Like what are you talking about? Yeah. The second amendment to go

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on for 13 years, apparently just learned about, well, Hey, what are you going to do? It seems

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like it didn't change much. So I wonder what the point of it was. So this is just about a 2007

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release from the national infrastructure advisory council under George W. Bush,

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which didn't include gun dealers as essential businesses that should be kept open in emergency

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situations. I guess it must suck if you're a gun weirdo for gun stores to possibly not be open,

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but I don't think that counts as the second amendment being shut down. I don't think the

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second amendment requires that you be able to conveniently buy a gun at every moment of every

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day, no matter what. It just seems like an incredibly weak argument, but it's good for

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Alex because it helps him pivot the coronavirus situation back into familiar waters. He's done

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the gun paranoia show a million times by now. So you should be able to handle that kind of

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narrative in his sleep. That's the way you do this. You bring this shit back into the territory,

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you know, God damn God, I have a gun. Look, you know, every morning I wake up and I

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go check the front stoop and I see that the milk man has left me my, uh, customary two bottles of

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milk. I go down to my local gun store just to get my morning gun. You know, it's like I get a cup of

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coffee at Starbucks, I get a gun at the gun store, and then I'm ready to start my day. And they

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really fucked it up. What, I can only drink coffee now? What am I going to do with my hands? If, uh,

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you can't buy a gun at literally every moment, then you basically don't have the right. No,

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as you've over returned the second amendment. So, um, at least though, at this point,

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the impressions are over. They're not. Let me tell you who we have for you on the broadcast

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today. It's a worse page. It's quite a list of guests. Paul Joseph Watson. Have you never seen

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the movie from her? Botanic majesty's Island, judges at the bottom of the hour. Dr. E. Michael

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Jones, Joel Skousen, Mark Ronda and Mike Adams. So he's got any Michael Jones back on. We got

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the rest of that list. I don't really care about, uh, at all. Um, I can't even say how little I

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care about any of that. Don't care about Skousen. Don't care about Paul Joseph Watson. Don't care

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about Mike Adams. Uh, really don't care about Mark Ronda. Alex is a former lawyer coming in.

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Alex keeps talking about how like he's coming on because he's an Italian citizen. I don't care.

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Oh, that's bad. But E. Michael Jones coming back on in the middle of this sort of situation

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is a bad, is a bad sign. That is a bad sign. It's a harbinger of not doom. So when I heard that,

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I was like, that's going to be trouble. Um, but at least the impressions were over. I'm lying.

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And now when we return, I'm going to lay out their master plan.

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Let it is as clear as a clear blue sky. Just sounds like him with a mask on

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wearing one of these M 95 masks. Ladies and gentlemen, can't tell the difference,

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but I'm going to get serious. I bet you are. Um, how did he get one of those?

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Isn't there a shortage? I don't know, but, uh, Hey, you know, uh, uh, nice to hear him empathizing

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with the, uh, the, the medical staff around the world wearing this mask is torture. Yeah, yeah,

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but it's okay if medical staff die. So Alex is now like here on the 25th. I think you can really

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hear that. He's pretty much fully on board with the idea that like all of this is just a giant

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hoax. I'm going to lay this out today. The Democrats are announcing the plan to hold

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America hostage, and they're going to work with the corporations to do it. But China is open for

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business. This is as clear as the nose on somebody's face that they're using a real virus that they

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hype up and exaggerate the death rates from to panic everyone and to have corporations set the

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precedent that governors set the precedent and Democrat cities at the precedent in a partisan

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move to shut things down, have their own political fever, as they've called it, their own chemotherapy,

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their own radiation to get rid of the cancer. That's Donald Trump. And that's what they're

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doing right now is showing you by bankrupting you that they're the boss. And they think they

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can blame this on Trump. The key is blaming it on them and the shy comms that it will blow up in

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their dirty stinking faces like everything else they've tried. They'll back off, but they'll

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launch something new. We start asking after this hoax is over, what will the new hoax be?

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That's how you know Alex is so full of shit. What's the new hoax? He's already looking on to

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what the next thing is going to be. That's sad. It's sad. It's a very sad thinking, I think.

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It's kind of amazing that this has just made it so it's like we've got the purest distillation

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of the two parties. There's no more dog whistling or hiding. It's purely the Democrats are evil

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because they want people to live and they don't want to reopen businesses. The two-party system

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is now essentially human life versus business. And people are still going to vote for business.

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That's wild. That's wild. Well, it's because 7 million people starved to death during the

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red depression. Wild. Right. And you need people like Alex in order to justify those,

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those ill placed evil governors caring if people die. Well, they're trying to hold their cities

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hostage. Yeah, absolutely. The blue cities, especially for caring if people die. Right.

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So Alex pointed that out and I didn't know what story he was talking about, but he has an article

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that proves it. It's a very important article. Dr. McCamshaw, please, I'll show you here. Breaking

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dim governors to hold states hostage in coronavirus lockdown. This allows the deep

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state to hold the people and the economy hostage, triggering a depression and civil unrest, driving

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Trump from office. That's their plan. So that article that Alex is citing is proof that these

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democratic governors want to hold cities hostage isn't an article with any sources or any real

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writing. It's a page on info wars.com, which just has an embedded video of David Knight's

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episode from that day. It's not proof of anything. They get to give their articles, whatever

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headlines they want, man. Yep. Man. Pretty sad. Pretty sad. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm

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going to trust David Knight in this guy in this crisis. Sure. That's my plan. A name you can

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trust. Absolutely. So Alex has been periodically getting a bit racist. We saw that with the

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fentanyl, the Chinese dragon. That wasn't a bit racist. That was staggeringly racist. We see it a

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lot. Alex is very racist, but in terms of the outbreak stuff, like in terms of blaming Chinese

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people and trying to identify the virus itself with Chinese people. And in this next clip, I

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think like he's just so far beyond like the levels of acceptable. This is real scapegoat-y shit. And

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I don't believe, I don't believe the facts of what he's saying. And I strongly disagree with the

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point of what he's saying. And right before the breakout happened three months ago, there were

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Chinese everywhere. I would sit on there. I said, I don't know why there's Chinese suddenly

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everywhere in every part of Austin, very wealthy, getting in very fancy cars, wearing, you know,

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very expensive watches carrying $10,000. What the fuck is he doing? It was a bio weapon pilgrimage.

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They weren't running from it. It was their mission to bring it here. And the CDC lied to Trump and

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said there was no problem. They brought as many as they could here. They distributed people with

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coronavirus out when Trump eight weeks ago tried to block Chinese flights. Prove any of that. And

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then also like all the functional effect that that can really have is making people hurt Chinese

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people. He just wrote the protocols of the elders of Wuhan. That was it. That's straight up. Look

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at all those wealthy Chinese people giving you diseases at the behest of their evil overlords.

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Yep. That is fucking. Yep. You can't, you can't do worse than that. Yeah, that's, that's,

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but it's kind of a logical extent, like the place you would expect this to go. But at the same time,

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Alex is trying to balance it with like, it's not a big deal, but then I don't know. It's, it's just

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the worst. So Alex has a carpenter friend who doesn't understand. Nope, not him. He doesn't

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seem to understand that carpenters and building is essential and it's not in the lockdown or

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whatever. So Alex is a little bit like, Hey, come on, man. You know, they're, they're,

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they have a struggle about whether or not the business is essential. And he has people who

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are walking off the job site. And Alex just says something stupid, but I got a call from my friend

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that builds houses. He builds up to about three or four houses at a time, custom houses. He said,

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most his crews walked off that matter. He has the law showing them they're essential. They don't

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care. They're getting into it. They have quarantine. You see workers unite money. If they

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just don't work or she'll never really get hardly any of it. But that's how suckers are. These

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people have quarantine envy. I everybody longs to be quarantined that that concept that, that a

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human being would say that out loud. Yeah. Oh boy. That's how Alex sees it. Cause he's a monster.

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Yep. So on the last day's episode, Alex talked about Josh Hawley and his moves and Alex talks

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about it a little more here in this next clip. Josh Hawley calls for international probe

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into China's coronavirus coverup. Big story, big on newswars.com and infowars.com.

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That's absolutely got to get out. Representative introduced a companion bill in the house.

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Hawley tweeted yesterday, proud to partner with the other Congress people to introduce

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this bicameral resolution calling for China to compensate USA and all other affected countries

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for the harm and destruction of the communist party unleashed with their lies and deception

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about the coronavirus while the brainwashed masses dutifully cower in their homes on the

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government behest. Enemies from within usher in a new era of CPP dominance. So how exactly

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would Josh Hawley get damages from China, sovereign country without the existence of some

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international governing body that could oversee disputes between sovereign countries. Gentlemen's

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agreement. Outside of international law that every country is subject to, how would this even

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work? The very thing that Alex is celebrating this Congress person demanding is legitimately

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impossible without the very system he's built his career fighting against. Or you would have to

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take it by a conquest. Right. Well, there's that. I mean, all this is is like this very

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weird insistence on creating cause for war without framing it that way. Because if Alex

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truly believes I understand why people die in war, I don't understand viruses, Dan. I'm scared

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of viruses. Viruses can hit at any time. You don't see them coming and I can't shoot it with a gun.

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If I start a war, Alex truly believes that the Chinese government deployed this as a weapon.

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Then it's a act of war. It's over. It's over. The war has already begun. Yeah. They fought the war

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and we need to bomb China. And that's obviously not the conclusion that you want to reach,

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but that's the logical conclusion of the rhetoric that Alex is putting forth. It's insane.

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But I mean, that is what he believes. He does believe that this is a weapon and it's an attack.

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I believe Gigi Ping, who had to deal with Taiwan rebellions and mainland rebellions,

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released it himself. But we do know it's manmade and we do know Obama transferred the precursor

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virus without the HIV delivery system to them, which was then added. I thought it was a real

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outbreak. So we know it came from them. We know it's manmade and we know the Democrats are using

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it to try to break the country down and cause a great depression and hold the states and cities

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they control hostage until Trump is driven from office. And that's the scripting. That's the

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narrative. And we better expose that narrative and we better get that truth out. And the president is

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starting to get on that narrative, which is the narrative of truth. Nope. Which is the narrative

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of victory, which is the narrative of success, which is the narrative of vengeance against the

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globalist. All right, that last one might feel real to you, but you got to stop saying narrative

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when you're Alex. I would prefer the non-narrative of reality. I would prefer the part that's not a

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story. The part that we're interacting with. We need to push this talking point in order to save

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our own asses because things are going to get bad. Oh yeah. So Alex now goes to his interview with

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E. Michael Jones, noted anti-Semite and Catholic fascist. He is on, because he made a video about

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the coronavirus. I bet it's very measured and has a lot of good advice and it's telling people,

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oh, nope. Our guest has done a really powerful video. We'll tell you about, and we've only got

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him for about two and a half segments. We'll get him back for longer. E. Michael Jones,

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Dr. E. Michael Jones. They can also talk about the ADL. They persecuted him. They want a big

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bailout. Persecuted him. As well now taxpayer money to police everybody for the internet.

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So weird. You got a weird, gigantic anti-Semite coming on your show and you start by complaining

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about the ADL. The ADL has persecuted this man for his stated goal of eliminating all Jews.

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Weird. What is tolerance if I can't be intolerant? So E. Michael Jones brings up that professor at

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Harvard, Charles Lieber, who was involved with the Chinese government in some way,

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that Harvard professor. I think that there's a lot of details about that story that I don't

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know all the details of it. It's a little unclear. I think more will come out over time.

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Anyway, E. Michael Jones brings this dude up and I think that there's an interesting difference

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between how he talks about him on this show and how he talks about him on his own website.

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We've had the exposure of certain groups in the country who are involved in espionage

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in collaboration with the Chinese. One of them is the chairman of the chemistry department at

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Harvard, Dr. Charles Lieber, who was arrested just as this virus started to take off here.

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So on Alex's show, this is just a professor who is collaborating with the Chinese government.

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E. Michael Jones makes it sound possibly more salacious than the actual effects of the case

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might merit, but the thrust of it is just that there's a guy who's collaborating with China.

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Now, I'll read to you from his article on his website, Culture Wars.

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Quote, Lieber, who is Jewish, was considered a flight risk because of his ties to Israel,

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causing authorities to demand that both he and his wife surrender their passports.

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Lieber is one of the founders of the biotech firm Nonsys, which is affiliated with the

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Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Lieber being Jewish is very important to E. Michael Jones

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on his website because that's what his work is all about. He's a gigantic anti-Semite.

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However, to disguise the true intention of his propaganda, he leaves some of that stuff out.

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When he's talking to someone like Alex, he could cast the wide net, and then once people come in,

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they see what it's really about once they're already ready to hear it.

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Man, racism is gonna... Racism pops up real quick whenever there's a crisis, doesn't it?

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Sure does. So, E. Michael Jones is not on the same page as Alex exactly, but he's kind of on

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the page of the last iteration of the propaganda. Oh, he didn't get the new notes.

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Nope, certainly didn't. Gotta send him a text.

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Francis Boyle, who was the man who wrote up the anti-bioweapon protocol in the 1970s,

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also believes that it was a bioweapon, and he says that there has been back and forth between

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Winnipeg, their level four biolab, and Wuhan as well. So, the indication is that it is a bioweapon.

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Missed the memo. That's disinformation, according to Alex. That's back then. Come on, man.

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We need to throw that out, because we're more interested in saying that the UNC North Carolina

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Chapel Hill lab built it, and Obama sold it to China. You gotta get rid of the Winnipeg part.

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Come on, man. God damn.

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Yep. But Alex doesn't correct him, because who gives a shit?

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Yeah, why? Why would you bother? Who gives a shit?

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That narrative might as well be true, too. We might as well throw it in there today. Why not?

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It's disinformation, but yeah, Lagoi. Who cares?

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And the only confirmed people we have using COVID as a bioweapon happen to be white supremacists.

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Sure. Yeah.

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And it's crazy that E. Michael Jones, also his big source is Francis Boyle,

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who's the guy who comes on Alex's show, almost like all people are working from the same well.

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Yeah, it seems like they get the same newsletter every morning.

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Yeah. So, these people like Alex and E. Michael Jones, they're just like,

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they seem very, very willing to accuse people of things that cause wars.

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The thing that's just occurring to me now is, if the Chinese government is saying

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that this was a weapon and that they have the right to respond, maybe they have responded.

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This is what occurred to me. Maybe New York was a response to a bioweapon launched by China.

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Maybe that's what China did in New York. I mean, this is all speculation at this point.

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So why are you saying it?

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I mean, look, what am I not going to say that we have been fighting a secret

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biowar with China? How am I going to not say that?

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Listen, I know it's incredibly irresponsible for me to say this, but maybe,

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okay. Hey, you know what? Maybe Mexico secretly nuked us.

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Oh, shit. Oh, God damn it. That was their response for the Mexican American war.

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I get it now.

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Just speculation at this point.

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It all makes sense. That's why we don't have Austin anymore. They're on lockdown.

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It's incredibly irresponsible.

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And invisible. Why not?

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So Alex and E. Michael Jones are talking about pornography in this next clip.

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Of course they are.

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E. Michael Jones is complaining about Pornhub giving people in Italy free accounts.

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I don't understand how we got to where we are.

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Well, but here's the thing that's really important about this.

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Play this little clip of their conversation.

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And you need to understand that there is a conversation

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and then there is a crypto conversation that are happening simultaneously.

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We're not, and again, it's not like, oh, porn.

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You know, we're these big, you know, super conservative people that can't handle it.

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It's meant to destroy families, destroy relationships.

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It destroys the pleasure of real sex. It destroys families.

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It is absolutely makes you depressed.

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It makes men not be highly motivated.

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It screws up culture.

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Yeah. Pornography is a weapon and it's now being,

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it was been used as a weapon for the past 50 years.

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And now it's the main weapon keeping people inside and disoriented

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when they now are forced out there because of martial law.

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Look, you know, with boxers, they tell them a month before a fight,

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do not have sex with your wife.

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So on the surface, this appears to be just Alex being opposed to porn

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because it has negative influences on intimacy or whatever.

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He's not a fuddy-duddy conservative, but don't beat off.

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Whatever. Who cares?

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However, if you know what E. Michael Jones believes,

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this is a deeply antisemitic conversation.

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He believes that the Jews created and promoted pornography

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as an attack on the non-Jewish family structure.

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It's a very large piece of his worldview

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and anyone who's familiar with his work knows this very well.

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Thus, if you're someone who knows E. Michael Jones

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and you hear this conversation, I honestly couldn't blame you

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for thinking that Alex was agreeing with him

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that the Jews are attacking families with porno.

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I don't believe that Alex doesn't know this.

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I have a hard time believing he'd be so oblivious to the people he platforms

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that he'd be having a conversation about E. Michael Jones's exact talking points

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but leaving out the Jewish part.

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This reads to me as an intentional attempt

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to whitewash antisemitic rhetoric on his show,

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but then again, Alex may or may not know

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if John Rappaport believes viruses are real.

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So he might be that oblivious.

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It's possible.

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Yeah, which is bad because then he's doubling down

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and signing off on E. Michael Jones's antisemitic conspiracy theories

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about pornography.

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Jesus.

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All I'm saying is that maybe Italians have a hard time defining it

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but they know porn when they see it.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Yeah.

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I've seen it a lot now.

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I've seen a lot of that.

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All right.

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Of course, they can't talk about porn

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and its objectification of women

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and the many women who are fucking abused in the process.

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They can't include that at all.

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They can.

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It's the Jews murdering us.

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They can talk about that stuff

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but only if the villain is somebody that they want to target.

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They can't talk about it of its own being a bad thing in and of itself.

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It has to be used as a means.

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As a weapon.

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Yeah.

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Ironically.

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Yeah.

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So they talk about the stock market crash

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and the falling of the stocks.

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Sure.

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And E. Michael Jones can't quite figure out if it's the result of the virus

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or the virus came around because they wanted to crash the stock market.

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You know, basically Alex is right.

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Right, right, right.

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And so Alex...

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They're having a tautological argument.

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Alex says it's both.

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They did the crash on purpose and released the virus

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at the same time to be the smokescreen for the collapse

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which would be actually a martial law consolidation

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that would then be used to drive nationalists from office.

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I think there's a plausible explanation and I think that's it.

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That's not the response I would have.

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I would go, I think there's a plausible explanation and that is nowhere near it.

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You're cheating.

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Pick one or the other, asshole.

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Right.

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So they have gotten around talking about this, the virus,

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and it's an attentional bioweapon or something.

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Right.

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It's muddy.

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My lady friend's granddaughter's boyfriend's mom told me that it's not a bioweapon.

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Just have a gin and tonic.

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So this is the last clip we have because I'll be honest with you,

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after E. Michael Jones was on, I was like, I'm not interested in this.

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I'm not listening to any more of this show.

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Worth it.

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Skousen's gonna come on and pour the shit out of me.

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Come on, Skousen's got takes.

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I jumped to when Mike Adams took over the show

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because I wanted to hear what he was bringing to the table

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and it's all just gold economic talk.

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I'm like, you're not the finance ranger.

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I'm not listening to your take on that.

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So we had this last clip of you, Michael Jones,

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and it seems like he's saying that the virus is an act of God.

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But at the same time, I thought it was supposed to be a bioweapon.

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Chinese God?

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I don't know.

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And there have never been a time when the oligarchs have had more control over our lives.

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And so it may be that the real message of the coronavirus

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is that it takes God's hand to break the hold of their hand over all of us.

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So I don't think they're the ones that released it.

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Everything is in God's hands.

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Logos is rising.

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And that's good news.

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I don't understand what the position is that's being put forth

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other than he does not into Jewish people and everything is secretly a conspiracy.

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All right.

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So here's my take on our position so far.

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The Chinese did it.

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Right.

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The Jews did it.

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God did it.

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Those three.

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It can't just be like it can't just be.

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I don't know, man.

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I'm finding myself disoriented slightly by Alex's work.

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Disorienting process?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I understand that there are some through lines.

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You know, I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Alex didn't early on

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talk about the causing of financial collapse and stuff like that.

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But at the same time, the way he's trying to pretend that a lot of the other elements

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weren't also major parts of his rhetoric and even stuff that he was talking about

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like a couple weeks ago, like the idea that he'd have Stuart Rhodes on

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and them talk about virus keeps coming back and now it's no big deal.

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You get over it in a week, you're fine.

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Yeah.

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It's, it's, I have a real difficult time with it because on the one hand,

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you should look at it and be like, oh, fuck you.

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Yeah.

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But the other hand of like, well, I wonder where this is going.

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There's a little bit of curiosity about like where the thread leads.

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Right, right, right, right.

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But at the same time, it's like, you shouldn't be allowed to do this.

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Yeah.

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You really shouldn't.

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No, he's, he's, he's causing, he has the potential to cause a lot of damage.

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Yeah, no, absolutely.

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That really worries me.

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That study that they did showing pretty well, definitively,

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that the more money you have, the richer you are,

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the more psychopathic your behavior.

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This is more like, to me, there's something deeper beneath that,

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that money provides you and that's insulation from consequences.

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Yeah.

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When you don't have consequences for your actions, this type of shit happens.

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You can, oh, this week the stock market's up a thousand points.

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Tomorrow it's down a thousand points.

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Doesn't matter.

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No consequences.

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This week, the coronavirus is manmade.

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Last week it was, it's just nonsense.

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There's no consequences for your actions.

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And so you just keep doing bullshit and that gets people killed

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because they have to deal with it.

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I think that there's a part of that that is the case.

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But then I think that there's also a part that like,

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I think Alex is keenly aware of the fact that like,

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he knows he's been lying for years.

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Like all the stuff he talks about is like,

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there's no stakes to it because it's not real.

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He hates his audience.

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So like he doesn't care if it's damaging to them.

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That's fair.

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He doesn't care.

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It's just like constant bullshit that just is to facilitate whatever,

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like growing narratives that he has that helps him sell stuff

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and helps him push reactionary, extreme right-wing beliefs.

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So like he knows on a certain level,

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like every time he yells about school shootings being fake,

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he knows that it's bullshit.

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So whatever comes of it, no big deal.

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Who gives a shit?

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And we're in a situation right now where neither you nor I

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can predict what's going to happen.

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But the experts, the people who are into the fields

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that are relevant or people you should be listening to,

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and they all have dire warnings.

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The countries that have gone down the paths that Alex

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would like to recommend people going down, even if they change

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their path too late, are in bad places.

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That's not something that his narratives can really

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do anything about.

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Like he can later try and create an explanation.

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Like I said, like he can rewrite this to be like,

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oh, it's Mnuchin and the globalists that wanted people

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to go back to work so they'd get sick.

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And you know, he can do that.

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But this is not the same as lying about a school shooting

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or any of the other stuff.

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Like it's clear that it is to him, but it's not.

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Yeah.

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I give it a week before Trump holds a press conference

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and they beat Fauci's head to death because a fucking

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severed pig's head told him it's a good idea.

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It's like that's where they are insane.

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It's becoming less and less unlikely.

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So anyway, we'll be back.

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We're doing this episode on Friday.

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We have some plans to keep you all company as best we can

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through this trying time.

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We'll at least be doing Monday, Wednesday, Friday episodes

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for the foreseeable time frame.

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And there might be some little sneaky other things along

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the way, but we'll see about that.

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We'll see what happens.

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But until we see again, we have a website.

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We do have a website.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I am the Juiciest Ice Cube.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.