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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating

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knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray

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I have great respect for knowledge fight

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys

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saying we are the bad guys

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knowledge fight

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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight

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Rattler, Rattler, Rattler

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need me, need money

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Rattler, Rattler, Rattler

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Rattler!

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Andy in Kansas...

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Stop it!

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Andy in Kansas, Andy in Kansas

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It's time to pray

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding us

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Hello Alex from Pacific Fault

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I'm a huge fan

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I love your work

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knowledgefight

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knowledgefight.com

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes, like sit around

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drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about

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Alex Jones. Indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan. Dan! Jordan.

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You have read mountains

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of material for this show over the past

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year, but Dan, have you read anything

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in 2019 that you enjoyed?

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No.

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Alright. Short answer. Moving on.

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No. Have not.

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I had started out the year with an

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intention of having, for

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recreational reading, I was going to try and read

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as much Philip K. Dick as I could.

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I was going to try and read chronologically

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through Philip K. Dick and figure out

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what went wrong.

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Where did he, like, did

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he start out completely insane?

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Or was it a gradual

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process? And

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I made it through, like, maybe

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three or four of his books before I

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just got too busy with all

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this show-related

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reading. I just didn't have a whole lot of time

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for that. Recreational reading

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I had decided to do was

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less crazy, certainly, in the

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late 50s when you started with,

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like, Bring Yourself

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Together, I believe. That was the first

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book. First few just kind of left me cold

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and left me, maybe 2020.

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Maybe I'll get back on it, start back

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over on the list.

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But yeah, maybe. I don't know. We'll see.

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Unfortunately, as I've discovered, I

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do enjoy reading

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stuff for this show more than

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I enjoy, necessarily,

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early Philip K. Dick.

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You're right. Oh, boy.

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That's a damning indictment. I'd rather

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read John Birch Society

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materials than sci-fi.

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So, okay. That's where we're at.

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That's 2019 in a nutshell.

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I suppose so. Yeah. Happy New

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Year. Put a button on it.

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So, Jordan, today we're doing the

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Alex Jones Christmas Spectacular.

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Hey!

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All right. To refresh

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everyone's memory, last year on

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Christmas Eve, Alex Jones did an episode

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where he got drunk and threw hatchets

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around the studio. It was

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maybe one of the more fun things

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we've ever experienced. It was a highlight.

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If you've not listened to that episode, I highly

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recommend everyone go back and listen to last

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Christmas Eve's 2018

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episode. Because

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it's bizarre. Alex tries to hit one

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of his cameras with a hatchet. He genuinely does.

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He very explicitly is disappointed that he

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didn't hit one of his own. A very

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expensive device.

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Yeah. So that set

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the bar pretty high. Yeah.

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Yeah. It's going to be tough to top that.

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Today we're going to be going over December 23rd

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through 27th of Alex's

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show. And unfortunately

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it's only actually the 23rd and

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the 27th because Alex took off

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for the holidays. Oh. He just had

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rebroadcast and best of episodes

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for Christmas Eve, Christmas,

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and the 20th. Were there hatchet throwing in them?

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That is the best of. I was

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going to say. But no, I did not listen

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to his best of. Alright. Alright.

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So we'll get down to

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business, see what he does for the holidays

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this year. Before we get to that, we've got to take a little moment

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Jordan to say thank you to some folks who have signed up

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and are supporting the show. So first, Peter

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thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy

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wonk. Thank you Peter. Thank you Pete.

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Next, Melissa. Thank you so much. You are now

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a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks Melissa. Thank you Melissa. Next, Janina.

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Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you.

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Jelena, Janina, Janina.

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Next Kevin. Thank you so much.

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near now. A policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you Kevin. Thank you Kevin. Next

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I downloaded Tic toc as a joke

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now I'm hopelessly addicted. Thank you so cathedral

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Turn our policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks. I downloaded Tik-Tok

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as a joke and now I'm hopelessly addicted

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Thank you so much. Next

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Wyatt. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Why

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Next Leanna Thank you so much. borders

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Leana!

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Next, Morgan.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Morgan!

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Thank you so much.

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Next, Elizabeth.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Elizabeth!

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Thank you!

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And then finally Mick!

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you Mick!

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Thank you Mick.

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Uh, if you're listening out there and you're thinking hey, I enjoy this show, I'd like

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to support these gents too, you can do that by going to our website knowledgefight.com,

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clicking the button that says support the show, we'd appreciate it.

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It'd be delightful.

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And now, Jordan, we have two out-of-context drops for today's show.

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Merry Christmas indeed, Dan.

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And one of them is, uh, I guess they're both kind of upsetting, but here's the first one.

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Of course we're violent, of course we're crazy, everybody wants to come here, that's who we

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are, let's embrace it, we're maniacs!

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That seems pretty...

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Uh, uh, I mean...

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Hey, we're nuts, we're violent, let's just be cool with it.

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Now the flip side, the flip side of that...

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And I almost feel like I'm being a little whiny bitch.

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Okay.

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It's got a lot of mood swings, a lot of ups and downs.

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I enjoy Christmas music swelling behind a man saying,

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I feel like a whiny bitch.

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Uh, yeah.

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Merry Christmas, Alex.

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Merry Christmas, Alex.

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So Alex starts on the 23rd here complaining, um, because everyone that he knows and he works

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with is shadowbanned.

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They're all doing...

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Everybody got shadowbanned.

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Well, they're all doing such great investigative work, but it doesn't matter because there's

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shadowbanned.

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And honestly, this just made me laugh a lot because I would describe this as Alex having

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a false start on the episode and getting a penalty.

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You know, one of my greatest frustrations is one of my greatest joys.

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It's that my crew, our reporters, our researchers just churn out five star research and information

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like that John bound report.

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That is so incredibly important.

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Shadowbanned everywhere.

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The only place you're going to find it is at band.video.

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And if you get excited to share it, millions will see it.

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If not, the enemy will win.

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We'll be right back with the full launch.

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Shadowbanned.

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Shadowbanned.

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I feel like that's a false start because he's like, ah, we'll be back with the real launch

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of the show.

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This isn't the real launch.

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It doesn't seem like that, but we, the guys, we would do this over from the top.

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Let's take this one more time.

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I just complimented John bound too much.

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Start it over.

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So I would say about the first 20 minutes or so of this episode is just Alex trying

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to stress that the audience, uh, to the audience that without them, he can't do anything.

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He keeps using this metaphor that the audience is the gun and he himself is creating bullets

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for them to shoot.

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These bullets are useless without guns and he really needs you to shoot people with his

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information.

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I don't like this metaphor very much.

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It's, I mean, if you're in an info war, there'd be info guns.

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It does.

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Yeah.

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It's something that Alex says a lot, but there seems to be like a particular focus on this

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episode of this idea, uh, that, uh, you know, it almost feels like there was a meeting behind

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the scenes where they decided that they really need to focus on raising engagement.

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This needs to be the focus.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And so Alex is spending the first 20 minutes of his show being like, you guys need to repost

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my shit.

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You need to shoot the bullets.

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Alex also promises there's a big report on Epstein coming that he's working on with Rob

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Dew and an alleged whistleblower.

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Sure.

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He's saying it's bombshell stuff, but given our recent developments with Rob and sources,

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I don't feel like we should put too much stock into that.

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Is he going to remove a computer chip from Epstein's corpse?

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No, this dad also does not come back.

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That also does not come back.

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I've not heard a hide nor hair of this in studio surgery.

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Unsurprising.

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Alex also promises a big report on the evils of vaccines set to drop on Christmas morning,

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which you can then post all over social media and hopefully ruin everyone you know's holiday.

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The war on Christmas isn't saying happy holidays.

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It's producing nonsense anti-vax social media content for everyone to put all over the place.

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You wake up, you're like, what the fuck?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That makes, uh, that makes Christmas lunch so much better.

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Yeah.

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So the first 20 minutes, half hour of the show is just this like repost my shit.

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We got this Epstein report coming anti-vax special.

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Haha.

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How exciting.

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So it's very dry, uh, territory.

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And then Alex lets us know we have big things are coming.

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I'm an interview with Dr. Steve.

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It really was a spy chief really did overthrow governments on record, the character Jack

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Ryan's based on for 18 years, since 2002, since early 2002, February, 2002 is for some

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cover interview, he's going to be on with us for an hour and a half, starting at the

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bottom of the next hour to cover the waterfront, a lot of stuff.

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He just wants to get out there before this year ends and he's ready to release a lot

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of information.

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I'll just leave it at that.

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Steve, but Janet coming back on for Christmas, all this information in his garage or something.

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He's like, Oh, we got to get this out of here by the end of the year.

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I should have put this out last year.

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He's got actually a really big revelation.

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I will, I will say that there is an admission that Steve makes on the show that it, first

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of all, I don't believe, but were true, uh, would be internationally important.

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I gotta be honest guys.

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I'm the Zodiac killer.

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It's me.

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That's not his style because the Zodiac killer didn't attack a heads of state.

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That's true.

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That's true.

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That's true.

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Yeah.

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We'll get to that when we get to it.

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But there is something definitely big that Steve has to, uh, he has a Christmas gift.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So, uh, in this next clip, Alex talks about how like, uh, Hey man, you know, uh, a lot

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of people are awake now, you know, there's people are awake and that's a real victory.

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Is it?

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Well, when he talks about it being a real victory, that all these people are awake to

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the power structure and what have you, he compares it to a different victory that has

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happened historically.

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And I do feel like he's comparing that victory unfavorably to the current victory.

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Okay.

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You'll understand what I'm saying here in a second.

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You know, it was 3% started and saw through the revolutionary war against an empire, never

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been defeated.

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Ladies and gentlemen, we probably got 30% of the public that's hardcore aware now and

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know how the system works.

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It was probably 10% five years ago when you got 30% aware of what's going on, if they

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decide to move and take action economically, militarily, spiritually, it's over.

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So I'm going to explain something here.

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This isn't, this isn't an overly positive statement.

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It's the truth.

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We have won and we won back at Calvary with Jesus Christ when God took on our sins as

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a sacrifice and gave us an example to live by, but we've really won now and the globalists

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know that they just want to take as many innocent people with them as they can as many souls.

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So I don't know if you want to like a couple of days before Christmas, particularly want

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to be talking about how when Jesus died for your sins, that was a victory, but now this

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is a real victory.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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It does seem to be just based on sentence structure that Alex believes somehow 30% of

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the population believing what he believes is a greater victory than Jesus dying for

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our sins on the cross.

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I believe, I believe he is comparing his current, also the state of the info war, he's shitting

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a little bit on the revolutionary war too.

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And isn't that also an insult to the 30% where he's like, it only took 3% to start the revolutionary

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war.

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We got 30% and none of you idiots are doing anything.

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Well, it's defensive.

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Yeah.

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It's defensive now.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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I think, I think there's a piece of it that's certainly offensive to the revolutionary war,

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but I think I'm more interested, a little more interested in denigrating what should

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be a pivotal moment in history for him.

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He's got Jesus on the brain.

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Right.

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And especially when you're thinking about Jesus on Christmas, you have to throw a little

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shade on him and tell him that he didn't do shit.

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Right.

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Hey, did you started the victory, but the real victory is 2019.

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Did Jesus dying on the cross tell 30% of the population about the globalists?

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No.

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No.

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They didn't even, 3% didn't even believe him back then.

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Jesus didn't even sell iodine.

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Praise Jesus on this, his holiest birthday.

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Maybe next time you'll raise her up to me, but I got this one, buddy.

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Weird.

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Yeah.

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So Alex has got news, uh, you know, just tons of it and it's very important stuff too.

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Like comedian, Michelle Wolf made a joke and Alex is not happy about it.

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Sure.

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This is cancer and it wants to normalize itself to you.

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But here is Michelle Wolf in her latest event on stage in front of a couple thousand people

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cheering, talking about a mother killing her baby so that she has power and plays God.

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There's never been a more satanic Lee pure statement made.

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This is the definition of Satanism.

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Here it is.

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You know what we talked about so negatively that you feel like you should have this sense

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of shame after you get an abortion where you can feel any way you want after you get an

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abortion.

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Let's get one, see how you feel, you know, my abortion made me feel very powerful.

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You know, people say you can't play God.

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I walked out of there being like, move over Morgan Freeman, I am God.

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Don't knock it until you try it.

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And when you do try it, really knock it.

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You know, you got to get that baby out of there.

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Normalizing that a mother's power is killing her baby for her own satanic selfishness and

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enjoying it and sharing it.

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So I mean, you could see what's going on here.

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This is completely bizarre.

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Like Alex in the past, the very recent past is made a huge deal out of being one of those

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free speech types, especially as it relates to comedy.

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All the people complaining about racism are just uptight SJWs.

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PewDiePie is just joking when he has people hold up signs that say, kill the Jews.

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It's totally a fun joke how Count Dankula taught his dog to seek hile.

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It's comedy and encroaching on comedy is an attack on language and the First Amendment.

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But now Michelle Wolf has made a joke he disagrees with, so it's pure Satanism.

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This is just sad and more to the point, it's lazy.

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It's lazy as hell.

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Alex provides no cogent argument for why this joke Michelle Wolf made is normalizing something

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and the other jokes he's defended that offended other people are not.

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The exact same line of attack he's taking here applies equally well to Count Dankula's

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supposed joke.

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He's normalizing Nazism.

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Here Alex is embodying the very behavior he claims to hate so much in the left.

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And if I were Paul Joseph Watson, I would make a video complaining that he's virtue

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signaling.

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Oh yeah.

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This is ridiculous.

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He went out of his way to record promo after promo adopting a racist Asian accent.

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Sure.

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Because it would offend the libs.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That's all he, and now we're getting a really tame joke.

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Michelle Wolf made a joke.

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Michelle Wolf made a joke.

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I can't handle it.

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Ugh.

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All I hear is exhausted screeching.

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That's all I hear.

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Just ahhh.

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It's, it's just, I mean I'm more offended by the laziness.

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It's fine if I do it.

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It's wrong if you do it.

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Moving on.

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Right.

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That's it.

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Good times.

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God, what an asshole.

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So there's other news.

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Is there?

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Did you know?

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Is there more news about Michelle Wolf?

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Because I feel like that's going to come up again.

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No, not much.

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Oh, okay.

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I think it probably does come back up later, but not in any greater detail, just more Michelle

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Wolf is a Satanist or something.

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Did you know that recently a town of cannibals was discovered?

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Because it wasn't.

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But Alex is reporting that it was.

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All over the world civilizations are discovered that had plenty of water and plenty of food

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when they collapsed.

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And there's not even signs of disease, but they're all gone.

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And you know what they always find?

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Giant masses of skeletons that have been eaten.

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Just a few months ago, archeologists in Germany found a town in Germany that's about 8,000

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years old.

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And they found tens of thousands of skeletons that had been butchered and eaten.

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And the scientists studied it and found out they were people from all over Europe.

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Some of them over 2,000 miles away had been taken there to be eaten.

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I meant to cover that story on air, but you can just type it in.

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Stone Age town found in Germany was based on cannibalism.

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You're like, why would they do that?

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Why would they do that?

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Why would they do that?

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Why would they do that?

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Why would they do that?

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Why would they do that?

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I don't know why they would do that.

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Why would they do that?

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It sounds out there.

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This doesn't seem like a sustainable model, really.

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Alex is talking about a recent discovery in modern-day Poland of a site near Kosterson.

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You couldn't even get the fucking country right.

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Nope.

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Well, I mean, to be fair, though, it's Germanic tribes, and so it's easy to confuse.

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At this site, archeologists have found 12 burial pits that appear to go back to the

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first century BCE.

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One of the things that they're saying is really notable about this find is that the people

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there were buried using different types of funeral rituals.

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Why is it super shocking, since Poland is in the middle of an area where there's a rich

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archeological tradition with very old sites from various Germanic tribes being found fairly

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regularly, but it's still not - why that's the case is not a completely answered question.

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Why are there so many different styles of burial in the same site is very weird.

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The varying funeral traditions, as well as the presence of trinkets from pretty far away,

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are both aspects of the site that make it a very compelling one for researchers, but

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literally nothing I can find about this story involves cannibals.

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There's no indication that anyone was brought to this town from far away to be eaten.

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There are no archeologists who are studying the actual site or saying any of this kind

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of stuff.

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Quite frankly, unless there's some stories that I'm missing - and I've read a number

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of them, so I don't know, maybe there's some weird one that I missed - I'm inclined to

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say that Alex is literally making all of this up.

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That's not fair.

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Nope.

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That's not fair.

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You have to take cannibalism a little bit more seriously, Dan.

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Sure.

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This is not something you can joke about.

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Like an abortion or whatever.

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I have two possible explanations for what I think might be going on.

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The first is that he might be making this up because I know that he never reads stories,

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just he reads headlines and then riffs on them.

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The headline in the Express about the discovery of this site is, quote,

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Archaeology shock.

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Gruesome discovery of mass graves and mystery urns stunts archaeologists.

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Which you could see Alex turning into a story of finding the remains of a cannibal community.

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It's gruesome, mass graves.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Thanks, Express.

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You guys are great.

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The rest of the details that Alex repeats about this, most of them are in the sub-headline.

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So it would be a pretty easy bet that Alex just saw the headline, his brain interpreted

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it and turned into what we just heard.

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Sure, cannibals.

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And none of that's based on anything except his fucked up head.

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The other possible explanation is that Alex is taking details from this new dig site and

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combining it with details about Herxheim, a very famous grave, mass grave site in Germany

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that was discovered in 1996 and definitely showed signs of ritualistic cannibalism taking

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place at the time of about 5000 BCE.

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A 2009 study of that site, Herxheim, did strongly suggest that the inhabitants there practiced

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cannibalism based on particular cut wounds found on bones.

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But that's not really a consensus among the academic community.

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Some believe that it's more likely that the dead, they had rituals performed on them where

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their flesh was removed from their body before being buried, which isn't historically or

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archeologically unheard of.

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The point here is that even if Alex is just combining these two sites into one, even the

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most ghastly stuff about Herxheim is not concretely proven.

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And there's a large element of this story that's absolutely just coming from Alex and

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his imagination.

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Ah, they all collapse, collapse into cannibalism, they find it everywhere.

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It's the same thing with the Black Pyramid stuff.

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Here's making this shit up.

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I'm leaning more towards my theory that Alex will always bring up cannibalism if he is

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hungry.

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That is my new theory that I'm working on, because every time he brings up cannibalism,

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he does have a certain amount of like, they used to eat people, he used to just nosh them

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up.

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They used to, they'd pull the marrow out of their bones.

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I'm so fucking hungry.

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I want a chicken wing.

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It would be like, that's just how I feel about it.

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You have a compelling theory here.

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I don't know how we would test that, but maybe we start sending Snickers bars to the Infor

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studio to see if this language stops.

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Yeah, and then whenever we cut off the Snickers bars, uh-oh, talking about cannibalism all

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over again.

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Yeah.

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So it's the, I mean, it's the 23rd, Alex knows he's going on break after this for the holiday.

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Sure.

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And I would say that there is not much Christmas talk.

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That's not surprising.

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It's surprising to me.

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I don't think he's feeling very Christmassy.

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He is not.

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He's getting taken down from all sides.

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Yeah.

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He is not, he is not feeling the spirit for sure.

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But there is a little bit of religious talk, but it's all the same standard stuff.

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Like basically.

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I'm better than Jesus.

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The info war wins.

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That was weird.

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That was weird.

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But the, uh, like God gave him a mission, that kind of talk.

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So that's a little bit here in this next clip.

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We've got to strike while the iron's hot.

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God isn't giving us this type of providence and protection because we're so great.

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It's happening because we're willing to do it and God will use these imperfect vessels.

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But we have been given the commission to fight the enemy and we will carry it out.

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And I'll tell you this, a lot of people can see that I've lost a lot of weight.

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It's almost 40 pounds now.

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Whoa.

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I'm eating the same way I was everything except, Oh, I am religiously taking the supplements.

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Boom.

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Oh boy.

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The spirit.

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I am religiously taking the, Oh God.

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The reason for the season is a lot of ad pivots.

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There are so many in this episode, just constant.

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God gave me a mission.

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I'm going to carry it out.

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And I'll tell you what, I've lost a lot of weight.

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Everyone knows it.

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They can see it.

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It's because I'm taking myself on a sacrament.

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More like supplement.

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My friend.

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Exactly.

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That's what I'm doing.

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It's really intense.

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The level of pivoting that's going on on this episode, man, you know, these guys, they just

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these are the same people who are decrying how materialist the holidays have become so

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material.

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There is an irony to that.

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Oh yeah.

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There is an irony.

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So Alex comes back from break and he wants to talk about some of the good stuff that's

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happening in the world.

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Some of the signs, uh, that things are going well.

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And one of them has to do with, um, I think he's making up numbers, polling numbers.

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But something I want to get into right now is some very good news.

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Young people in major polls at several articles on it are against abortion of any time.

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And it's accelerating.

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The younger people get into teenage years of over 70% in most polls, summer in the sixties.

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And it's women, girls that are leading the charge in that, which shows all their propaganda

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is backfiring.

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And so the attempt to say, oh, it's fun to kill babies.

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Try it out.

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Well, that's not going to work either.

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So, so there's a real revulsion happening against Michelle Wolf's joke.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Who's doing those polls on Michelle Wolf jokes.

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I can't even find anything close to the data that Alex is using here.

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I have no idea.

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Like nothing I can find comes close to the contention that 60 to 70% of young people

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are opposed to all abortion.

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In fact, all the credible data I can find on this issue is the exact opposite.

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The most recent polling from Pew research from this summer had support for all or most

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abortion being legal standing at 61%, which is the highest point that question has pulled

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at in over 20 years.

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The only groups that have levels of opposition to abortion that are close to what Alex is

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saying are white evangelicals at 77% and Republicans at 62%.

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Odd.

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I honestly have no idea what polls Alex is talking about and he never says, and I can't

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find an article about this on info wars.

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So I have to assume he's either just making it up, saw a meme or something.

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I don't know.

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I think he pulled a youth Bible study.

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I think he pulled a youth Bible study at the church that he doesn't go to anymore.

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Something like that.

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Because what?

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Yeah.

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What?

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I don't.

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Young people are opposed to all abortion?

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All of it.

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Come on man.

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All cases.

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I don't know.

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And I, every single article that I can find has headlines like the next generation is

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leading the charge on greater access to reproductive health.

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Like all of them.

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So I don't know.

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I don't know.

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Every article about the next generation is either they are leading the charge in the

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fight to make the world a better place or they're destroying craft breweries.

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Those are the only two types of article about the young people.

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I think that there's more ideological diversity in the young set than some articles may paint

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it to be.

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Exactly.

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But I can't find any actual indication that there's 60 to 70 percent universal opposition

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to abortion.

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Especially among young women.

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You know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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That's great.

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I would just say I need a citation.

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Yeah.

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I would like one too.

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I would like one too.

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And it is not given.

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So this is interesting.

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Alex plays a special report.

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Maybe he was hungry.

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He needed to get a snack.

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Maybe you're onto something.

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There we go.

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Alex plays a special report, I guess.

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I mean, you could call it a special report.

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It's really just a segment of Howard Stern's show where they have a guy doing an Alex impression

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making fun of him.

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The whole thing is this guy doing the impression, he's just hawking products shamelessly and

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saying stupid shit.

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So it's a pretty accurate piece of parody.

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Honestly, I feel like Alex would only play that if he thought his audience is completely

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on the hook.

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Because the risk of them seeing someone making fun of how Alex sells shit and realizing that's

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not parody.

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That's exactly how he does it.

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That's exactly what Alex does.

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It seems high.

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It seems like a high likelihood.

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It does seem like the emperor walking around with no clothes is not lying anymore and is

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just like, I'm fucking naked.

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You tell me I'm wearing clothes.

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I don't even give a shit anymore.

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It's weird.

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But I suspect at this point Alex needs to self aggrandize more than he needs to pretend

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he isn't just running an extended conspiracy infomercial.

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So the fact that he's important enough to be made fun of by Howard Stern is something

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he could bank on.

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Yeah.

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He plays the biggest radio show ever in the last 20 years and they make fun of me because

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I'm relevant.

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Yeah.

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The only thing worse than people talking about me is people not talking about me.

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So yeah, I get that.

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He plays a whole segment of it.

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It's crazy.

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He plays a whole segment of it.

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How long?

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Like 15 minutes?

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No, no.

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I mean, it's maybe like five, four or five minutes, but it's still extended.

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That's long.

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Yeah.

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So after that, we get our guest.

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And I want to say Merry Christmas to all of our audience and to Dr. Steve Pacinek.

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I'm not going to get into his whole bio, but he helped run the Camp David Accords.

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That's how long he's been around.

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He helped found Delta Force.

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Done a whole bunch of stuff since then.

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He's on record overthrowing governments.

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He's talked about it on air before and called into federal court over it.

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I mean, so he's got to be careful about how much time he gets to here on air.

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But you talk about a source, there's all these Q fantasies and stuff.

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This is a real guy that's been around a long time and knows a lot of stuff.

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This is a real deal.

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This is a real deal.

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Not that Q bullshit.

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Okay.

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He's probably mad at Q. So Steve is on and I love the way that even like the two times

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that Alex has talked about Steve already in this episode, it's been like he really has

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done this.

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Yeah, I know.

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As if he's defensive.

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I was I was the first time he went through Steve's.

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I was like, who are you?

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Are you telling me or are you telling you?

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Because I'm not convinced either way.

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I swear to God, he's not he's not he's not bullshitting.

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He's bullshitting time.

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I think he might have gone to Korea for me, guys.

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I think he might have.

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He didn't.

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But I think he might have.

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So it's really interesting that Alex prefaces this by saying that Steve needs to be very

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careful about what he says on air.

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Sure.

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Immediately out of the gates, Steve says something he should not say on air.

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And ironically, now I can say because an Israeli operative died, I was involved in a coup,

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which Israelis did not know the assassination of Rabin.

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This is the first ever heard of because I had interviewed Rabin and I found him to be

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exceedingly depressed.

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I related to one of these right hand man and in turn, Rabin was assassinated, not for the

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Oslo agreement, but because he was so depressed, he could not function.

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I don't want to play games where I start taking anything Steve says seriously, but it's fun

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that he's now announcing he was involved in the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin.

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I are.

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Is he proud of that?

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Yeah, it seems like it.

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It seems like he's proud.

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Yeah.

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And not even that.

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He was just he just told somebody that he seemed depressed and then they assassinated

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him.

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That's his idea of him being involved in assassination.

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He explains it later and he like he talked to some like Mossad guys.

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And he's like, this dude is really depressed.

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Just so you know, I'm worried about it.

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They killed him.

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We should get him some help.

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He killed.

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OK, well, you know, there are two ways to solve that problem.

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Yeah, it's it's absurd.

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Small point to bring up here, though, is that Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated in nineteen

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ninety five, which would have been in the Clinton years.

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And I don't think that even in Steve's fake story of his life, he was supposed to have

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been at the State Department under Clinton.

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Now, now, as I recall, he pretends that he was there under Bush senior in Reagan.

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But I don't remember it extending past into the Clinton.

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I mean, I assume that we as more agents from around the world die, we're going to find

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out he's been involved in a lot more.

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That's a big I bet I was in the State Department when Kennedy was shot, man.

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I don't know.

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Maybe this is part of his I am sir answer.

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Maybe it is part of his mythology that he was there under Clinton.

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But either way, there's no evidence he was there past nineteen seventy nine.

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So I don't believe any of this shit.

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Alex really wants Steve to talk about Epstein on this episode.

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He really wants to get Steve's take on it.

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Meanwhile, Steve wants to promote his new memoir.

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That's right.

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I am very excited to read.

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Oh, my God.

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That is going to be the greatest work of fiction I think I've ever heard of.

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Alex is not all that interested in helping Steve plug his book too much.

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OK.

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Really wants to talk about Epstein.

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But then he gets a little bit more than he asked for because Steve is still on the Epstein

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is still alive kick.

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Sure.

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And now he's also fully on board with Epstein was working to compromise people on behalf

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of Mossad.

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Sure.

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As his narrative part of Israeli intelligence.

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All right.

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OK.

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Which is not a road Alex necessarily wants to go down.

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Right.

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Right.

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In the past, we've often seen Alex be confronted by far out conspiracy theories coming from

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Steve.

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He'll often resist their insanity for a little while.

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But in time, he starts to weaken.

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Steve is very persuasive and Alex is gullible.

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And we start to see this dynamic playing out again.

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It is true that the body they took out on the stretcher has and this was mainline photos,

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AP, you name it, is not the same ear.

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The ear doesn't even look halfway the same.

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Put that back on screen, please, guys.

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That's from the photo of the Daily Mail everybody ran.

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That is a real photo.

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And it's not even the same ear.

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Looks nothing like it.

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So Alex is now helping Steve create support for his Epstein's still alive that wasn't

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his body narrative.

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That's wild.

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And right off the bat, those pictures mean nothing.

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Even if the pictures used for comparison had no obvious problems with them, it would still

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probably mean nothing.

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But they do have serious problems.

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Of course they do.

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For one, the picture of Epstein alive that they use for the comparison was taken 15 years

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ago.

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The only facial features that are supposedly suspicious and being different in the pictures

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are the nose and ears, which are made of cartilage and change in appearance over time, sometimes

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significantly.

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One thing that changes over time is cartilage.

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Your ears are all, Jesus.

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This is some super flimsy, super dumb conspiracy clickbait shit that Alex is now using to help

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prop up the mad ramblings of Steve Pechenik.

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In the past, I've talked a lot about how Alex keeps getting fooled by Steve into believing

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stuff that gets him in trouble, but honestly, I've seen it happen enough now, and I keep

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seeing Alex do it to himself.

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I don't know if he thinks that what he's doing is playing devil's advocate, but in reality,

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Alex is just talking himself into believing Steve, which has been a huge disaster.

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I don't know why he keeps doing this.

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It seems like he's always doing a two-man game with Steve that he doesn't know he's

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a part of, because he is respecting Steve for being the guy who probably is involved

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with all assassinations over any international period of time.

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He's killed everybody.

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He's killed everybody.

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If you believe Steve Pechenik, you have to believe that he has set in motion literally

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every important thing that has happened in a geopolitical scene for the last 50 years.

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He's the most important figure in the world.

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I can't even put it into words.

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Between him and Leo Zagami, we have everything from prior to and post 9-11, including 9-11.

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Yeah.

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But Alex is always trying to, like in that clip, he's like, okay, well, you said something

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that sounds crazy, but you know, when you think about it, the ear didn't look the same,

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so I suppose that part of your theory is correct.

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That's the part where I'm saying he's doing it to himself.

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Every time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And we even heard him do some of that stuff with the Sandy Hook.

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Even when Steve was coming on saying they were actors, Alex was like, well, maybe.

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And that's why I think that Alex shouldn't ever try to play devil's advocate, because

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he's not good at it.

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He ends up tricking himself.

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No.

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Mulder shouldn't play devil's advocate.

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No.

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So, you know, Epstein's still alive, and also now we get into impeachment.

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The impeachment is, it's the swan.

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I'm actually impeaching him, Alex.

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It's the swan song for the Democrats and Nancy Pelosi, but also it turns out it's the end

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of something else that Alex shouldn't be into.

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The other part is the impeachment part where Nancy Pelosi is basically the joker in this

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movie where in her own mind she thinks she's wonderful.

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This is her swan song, but this is the swan song to the entire House of Representatives.

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Because in a time where we really don't need representatives and an arcane model, we are

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working with the Internet.

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We're not a democracy.

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If we had a democracy, as Ross Perot said, we would be punching our computers and just

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voting constantly on our own.

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So basically the representational government will decrease in importance.

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The governors in the South, Abbott, DeSantis, will become more important.

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So representative government is going to...

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It's already done.

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I mean, it's not...

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The end.

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Yeah.

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The end.

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Fuck representative government.

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All right.

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The last time Steve was on, he's talking about how due process is not important.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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He's trying to strip away a whole lot.

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Steve is an out-and-out fascist to a level that I find...

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But he's also really brazen about these things, and Alex doesn't seem to at all recognize

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that what he's talking about is pretty much complete deconstruction of a lot of the structure

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of government that is in the Constitution.

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It does seem like Alex loves and defends the Constitution against all attack, but if he

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likes you and you say you want to remove the Constitution entirely, he's like, yeah, that

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sounds cool.

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If you want to knock down pillars of the West, like due process, you're free to, as long

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as you are fun.

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It does seem like he just wants to rewrite the Constitution into just the Second Amendment.

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The Constitution that they all want is just don't take our guns.

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Yeah.

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That's it.

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And we get to own things, and if you take them, we'll kill you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That'll allow us to use them indiscriminately.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So also, we learned that Steve is responsible for the death of Yitzhak Rabin, which is big

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news.

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Well, he was depressed.

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I can't believe this didn't make all the...

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It does seem like a bombshell.

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Didn't read about this in The Gray Lady.

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I really would have expected to see that on...

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The New York Times front page.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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They're too busy being racist.

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Spy chief killed Yitzhak Rabin.

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Admits to it on dumb show.

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That's a big bombshell.

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That would be newsworthy.

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Another big bombshell is that apparently...

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I don't know.

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I guess Steve is a member of the Screen Actors Guild.

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What?

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Hollywood is finished.

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When you get a movie like The Irishman, which cost $180 million, and it's junk.

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I vote for the Academy Awards, and I'll vote for a movie like Harriet that costs three

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million bucks.

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But $180 million for Robert De Niro, who doesn't even serve our country, who shoots his mouth

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off against the president.

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A man who's never had a formal education.

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A man who went to the Red School, which is a communist school.

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Never really could articulate anything or write anything decent.

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Shoots his mouth off.

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I kept that clip in largely to give you a flavor of like, this is kind of a lot of how

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Steve talks.

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This makes no sense.

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This makes no sense.

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So Steve votes for the Oscars.

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I could kind of believe that maybe, but I don't know if any of the movies that Tom Clancy's

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had made are ones that Steve has anything to do with.

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I don't think that those Net Force or Cyber Team or whatever novels, he's not part of

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the Jack Ryan series.

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Right.

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I mean, he would have to be, like what?

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He has a producer's credit on something like that?

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Maybe.

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He could be in the PGA, I guess.

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He was involved in the TV show that Tom Clancy was trying to make way back.

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Oh.

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Starring Harry Hamlin.

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Oh, so he's in the Writers Guild.

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Maybe.

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Maybe.

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Yeah, that part is the most believable piece of it.

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I would believe maybe you're in one of those guilds, whatever.

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I don't think he helped assassinate anybody, but I do think he is in the Academy.

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I do think he does get a vote.

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It's possible that he votes for the Oscars.

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Yes.

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Now, even that being said.

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I don't trust him.

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There's two things that he's saying as why he wouldn't vote for the Irishman, and they're

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both weird.

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One is budget.

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Right.

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Strange.

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The other is Robert De Niro's political views.

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But you just hear this guy, he's just rambling.

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Just a rambling old man who wants to tell you about, like, I don't like this movie star

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because he talks shit.

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Yeah.

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Cool.

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Yeah.

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That's what it is?

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Great.

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I killed Yitzhak Rabin, and Robert De Niro talks too much.

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Wait.

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And also, he said he would vote for Harriet?

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Sure.

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That one threw me for a second.

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I was like, you're voting for Harriet because it only costs $3 million to pay.

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I had the right budget.

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That's the...

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Okay.

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Gotcha.

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And that was a huge part of why people loved Harriet, but I guess I was wrong.

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There's plenty of red flags flying all around whenever Steve is allowed to talk for an extended

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stretch of time.

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And Alex, I get the sense that he starts to pick up on them a little bit, but he's not

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good at pushing back at all and allows Steve to say dumb shit like this.

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I've always said Texas in and of itself could secede from the union and wouldn't need the

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rest of the union.

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Florida can secede from the union and wouldn't need the rest of the union.

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Florida.

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In fact, what I'm saying, de facto, the South has risen again.

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It has risen in a way that the lies of Abraham Lincoln and the Northeast establishment...

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The 12 days of Christmas Super Say has come to info wars.

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I gotta go to break.

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The lies of Lincoln, the South has risen again.

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Oh boy.

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Oh boy.

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Is he a Leo Confederate also?

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Cool.

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So I think that Steve is super, super naive about what it would look like for either Texas

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or Florida to secede from the United States.

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For one, they would then become independent countries and they'd have to work out trade

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arrangements with the rest of the United States as well as other countries, which would be

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pretty difficult, particularly without being able to enjoy the weight of the rest of the

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US economy that really helps create those trade relationships.

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I'm pretty sure he is assuming that they do not even need those and they can become self-sufficient

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nation states, obviously, because they have all the resources they need.

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Sure.

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There are some resources, but not probably enough for a fully sustainable economy.

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Geographically, neither Texas nor Florida is what you'd call in an optimal position.

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Florida is basically a peninsula of the United States and Texas wouldn't even be able to

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block off transit to and from South and Central America since there's the New Mexico and Arizona

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borders to consider.

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So it wouldn't even be able to create some sort of a blockade or whatever to create essentialness

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for it to be involved in a trade route.

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To get some kind of leverage.

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This plan is dumb.

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But also, if they leave the United States federal government, guess what else happens?

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The US federal government stops sending them money.

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No, no, no, Dan, because red states make all the money and give them to blue states.

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Everybody knows that.

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That's been backed up over and over and over again.

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Please do not disagree with me.

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In the past year, Florida received over $237 billion from the federal government, or the

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equivalent of $2,187 per resident of the state.

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Texas took in about $269 billion.

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These are the second and third highest totals of any state in the country.

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So sure, good luck.

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Keep yelling your dumb, dumb shit that the South has risen again, and get your fan base

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excited.

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But make no mistake about the reality of this.

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The reality of what Steve is saying, and what he's suggesting, would be a complete disaster

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for the people of Florida and Texas.

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And with all due respect to Florida and Texas, which I care about the residents of both of

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those states, it would only be a relative inconvenience for the rest of the United States.

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Hey, now, that's exactly right.

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You are correct.

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Our oranges are going to have to come from somewhere else.

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We got Georgia.

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I know.

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The rest of the United States would find a way to make that work.

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It would be a disaster for those states.

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It would be inconvenient, and you wouldn't want to do it, obviously, if you're a-

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It would disrupt a lot of stuff.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Prices of stuff would go up.

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The gas would be more expensive.

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It would be a bummer, but after a while, we'd all be like, okay, this is the new reality.

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Let's move on.

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Meanwhile, Texas would, I guess, have to go bankrupt, like Moody's would remove their

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credit rating and turn it into just a frowny face.

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That's it.

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Yeah, it would be a mess.

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Yeah.

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So Steve has taken responsibility for killing Yitzhak Rabin.

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He's talked about how Epstein is still alive.

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He's declared the end of representational government.

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He is talking about his votes for the Oscars.

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He said the South can rise.

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It has risen again.

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It has risen again.

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And Florida and Texas should succeed.

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And so now, he starts rambling a long time about how he took down the Soviet Union.

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He is a fucking gift, Dan.

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He really is.

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And I wanted to know what he felt about the youth technology that Scorsese used, but no.

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None of that's coming up.

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Nothing about that.

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All right.

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No, but it was too expensive.

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That's true.

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So he just talks about how it was him.

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I took down the Soviet Union.

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He does use the first person singular.

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Not we.

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But he took down the Soviet Union quite a bit.

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And so after he rambles about that for a while, I think Alex's defensiveness pops its head

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up again.

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Dr. Progenik, a lot of this sounds like to people like, this guy sounds crazy, all these

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exaggerations.

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But I've actually looked at the history books.

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You did run the Camp David Accords, the only successful deal.

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You were involved with the Pol Pot stuff.

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You were involved in the Soviet Union.

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You've done all this stuff because you actually do work instead of sit around and talk about

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how you're an intelligence op and sit around in a bar bragging and patting each other on

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the back.

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I'm still shitting on cue a little bit, I guess.

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I'm not sure how they're sitting around at a bar patting each other on the back.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, that's the defensiveness.

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I'm recognizing that what he's saying is completely unhinged and makes no sense.

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There's no way that all of this is one person's lived experience.

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It's ridiculous.

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Steve, I know this sounds like there are only two actual environments for what you're saying,

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my show and a mental health facility.

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But I really do believe you when you say, what did you just say again?

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You brought down the Soviet.

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I believe you?

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Shit.

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I got to get you off my show.

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Yeah.

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So in this next clip, they start taking some calls because callers want to talk to Steve.

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And this caller asks if there's anything they can do to get Trump to get tough because that's

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one of Steve's big complaints is that Trump isn't tough enough and he needs to toughen,

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needs to get mad, needs to bring Steve in to run everything.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So he can fire everybody.

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Exactly.

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Needs to make Melania Secretary of State or whatever.

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She's got to be.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Make her a duke.

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Yeah.

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So this caller asks, and the answer is pathetic.

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Is there anything we can do to come together to show President Trump that no matter what

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we're with him so he can start expediting his actions?

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Yeah, what do we do to get Trump to get tough and go after the deep state and not just put

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up with their crap?

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That's an excellent point.

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I think you should all get together within your own groups and start writing letters

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and, you know, sending Twitter or however you want to communicate to Trump that we support

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him.

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But we need to have a tougher approach in the next administration.

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We start to have we have to start cleaning up the way he does listen to the people and

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a lot of it gets to him, which everybody I mean, when you have a chance with this president,

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he actually values what the general public says.

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That's a fact.

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There's some real comedy embedded there.

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You have this guy asking what the people can do to help get Trump to toughen up and take

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on his enemies.

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And Steve's answer is write some letters.

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Such a lame answer.

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But it gets good when Alex says that Trump really listens to people.

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So this is a good plan.

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You may recall that Trump's campaign was characterized by thousands of people loudly chanting, lock

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her up at his rallies.

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And something tells me that's about as strong as a message you could give that you want

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a guy to get tough, right?

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If Trump isn't going to listen to chanting crowds, I doubt he's going to give a shit

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about your letters that he's never going to see to begin with.

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No, he reads every letter, Dan.

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Every letter.

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He also keeps a list of who's been naughty and nice.

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What greater message do you need than crowds chanting, lock her up?

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What more would you...

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Is there a paper trail?

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That's a good point.

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You can't prove that.

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You can't even prove he was there.

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No one wrote lock her up.

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That was the real problem.

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That was the issue.

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I am.

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I am the bastards.

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So in this next clip, Steve talks about, you know, he has a bit more of a Christian streak

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in this appearance than I've heard in him lately, which is something that I'm noticing

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weirdly.

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A lot of them are leaning into the evangelical, yeah.

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There is more of a strong religious thing.

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Like I watched Milo Yiannopoulos interview Nick Fuentes not too long ago.

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And Milo is very Catholic now.

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Yeah.

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I remember being part of his brand before, but now apparently is, and Steve is talking

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about in this next clip, he's lamenting that fundamentalist Christians can't get along

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with each other.

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The fundamentalist Christians can't get along with each other.

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There has to be an ecumenical council wherein in America they get together and understand

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it.

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One of the most powerful tools I had in the Soviet Union was not my ability to manipulate.

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It was my ability to search Christianity through Pope John and the Greek Orthodox Church.

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The 12 days of Christmas super sale has come to Infowars pushing that 12 days of Christmas.

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I feel like you're pushing the 12 days of Christmas sale now.

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Well, it just keeps happening.

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He keeps getting caught by breaks that end up having that anyway.

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Um, yeah.

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So Steve believes that, uh, he doesn't have a problem.

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He doesn't think fundamentalist Christian is a troubling term believes it to be like

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the group that needs to get together.

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And if you listen to what he's saying, cause he claims that he overthrew the Soviet Union

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and the way he did that was injecting Christianity, right?

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What that would lead you to believe is that he wants fundamentalist Christians to overthrow

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our government.

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Yes, that does sound like exactly what he wants.

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It's not good.

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That's, that's not good.

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That's not good.

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The kernels of what he's putting out connect into to imply something very scary.

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He wants to attempt to overthrow the United States government and, uh, I guess he thinks

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he's going to be somewhere in the ruling council when it happens, he's going to be the guy

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firing everyone.

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Yeah.

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What is, I mean, there's, there's a picture of the world that he wants in his mind and

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I don't think even he finds it to be pretty, you know,

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it's not going to be pretty.

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Like, I don't think he wants his, like, you know, most people, when they dream of a utopia,

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it's like, Oh, people are holding hands and shit like that.

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Yeah.

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When he does it, I really feel like he's just chaining people up, like walking down, flicking

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their nipples all over all the time.

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Feudalism's messy.

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Yeah.

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But it works.

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It doesn't.

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It works.

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It doesn't work.

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So it wouldn't be a Steve Pachanic appearance on Alex's show if Steve didn't flatter the

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shit out of Alex in order to make him feel validated.

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And so here is the last clip we have from the 23rd.

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Well, Infowars has been around a long time and it's very rare when you have a man like

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Alex Jones who can predict four months or six months before 9-11 that we were going

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to have 9-11.

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And when I heard that, I said, God bless this individual.

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I'm going to get to know him.

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And that was it.

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It's as simple as that.

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It's not that complicated.

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It wasn't that complicated.

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They were priming us for it.

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You know, when the big buildings blow up, we take your rights.

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I mean, it was all just, they had it all lined up.

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You can see it.

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Or you just listen to Bill Cooper.

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You guys are wrong.

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It was Leo Zagami.

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We know this.

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There's so many details.

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This is confirmed.

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Yeah.

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He said it.

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Leo said it.

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I mean, if you trust him about other things, why don't you trust him about that?

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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This is all a bunch of shit, but it's exactly the way Alex would want to be flattered by

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Steve and Steve's given what he needs.

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Oh yeah.

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So there's going to be a rebooking.

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They're just coming back onto like good terms.

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It's very interesting to watch.

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Like there is a pretending weenit didn't have a falling out.

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And now just sort of gracefully getting back into, Steve's testing the boundaries.

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He's throwing out Epstein's still alive shit.

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I killed heat soccer bean, man.

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It all flies.

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He got the Pope.

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He got a, I personally got the Pope to help inject Christianity into the Soviet Union.

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Me Steve Pachannik noted Pope soother.

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Pope whisperer.

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Yeah.

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So Alex takes the break on the 24th, fifth and sixth, and he comes back on the 27th and

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I'm going to say he's coming in hot on the 27th.

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He claims that it's just because he hasn't been on air for a little while, so he's got

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a head of steam.

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But in reality, I think it's because Trump had given a press conference where he was

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asked about pardoning Roger Stone and he said he hadn't really thought about it.

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And Alex is really pissed off about that.

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Over the Christmas break, the two days we took off, president Trump had a press conference

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and he talked about Roger Stone because of the question got raised to him and he said,

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Oh, I haven't really thought about that, which means he's not ready to make a statement on

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it.

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Obviously he has talked about it.

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Did you want to say what happened to Roger was obviously wrong.

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Yeah.

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To say the least, he was not convicted of being a Russian spy.

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Sure.

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He was convicted for lying to Congress on a tiny formality and that's not ground I'm

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going to cover it again.

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I know you all know that, but this speaks to the whole issue.

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If Trump won't start indicting these people and these rogue government agencies, these

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bad cops, as he calls them, well then what does it say if they're just left alone?

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It says it's open season on anybody that supports Trump.

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And so, okay, Sean Hannity's ready to lose his job.

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So Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones has got, I'm trying to put him in prison, speaking of the

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third person and suing the hell out of me and lied about my family and paying former

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employees to tell huge lies when I'm going to have to sue so that other people know they

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can't just lie about me.

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But that all takes money.

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So I'm going to get into this and Trump in a moment, and I love Trump, but his biggest

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failure is that he can't get the justice department to do their job illegally, spying on a candidate,

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doing it once their president lying to Congress about it is illegal.

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That's what I've got CIA hearings and defense department hearings.

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It's not the military coming after me.

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It's all the Ivy leaguers that have these intelligence clearances, literally calling

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me an enemy agent and talking about how they're trying to shut me down.

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That means shuts you down.

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And I'm pissed.

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I'm an American citizen being run over by a bunch of America hating scum that openly

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say they hate this country and then they sit there in Congress and I'm not in those hearings

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getting to challenge them that excuse me, Lord, these people should be damned to hell

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though.

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I mean that I don't, I'm not saying the Lord's name in vain there.

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I mean, these people are sick.

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And that clip at the end there, he said, God damn them.

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And then I was like, cut that out.

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Yeah.

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I went and found the video of it and he actually says that.

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And then in the version, so apparently they do have a delay button because they were able

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to cut that out in the, in the audio version that I use to cut the clips from.

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But he does say, God damn them.

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Cut that out.

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But they should be damned to hell.

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That's what he cut out.

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Yeah, I guess so.

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That's so weird.

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Very weird.

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But you notice that clip, the ride of it was general to specific, very specific turned

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very personal, very much airing of grievances that were about my own trouble.

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Now I love Trump, but personally I'm not doing so hot right now.

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Right.

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I would like him to fix that please.

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Yeah.

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It starts with like the justice department needs to do their damn job.

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I mean, I have, I have problems.

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It's just me.

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I got problems.

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People, people are being so mean to me.

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Yeah.

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But even like that goes on even longer, just complaining about his own shit.

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And then he has to clarify, cause I think he realizes like, I'm kind of making this

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all about myself.

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Yeah.

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He has to be like, this isn't about me.

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But vengeance is God's.

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I'm just going to say this, we need action and it's not for me being under attack.

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It's because these criminals are getting more bold and they're intimidating a lot of other

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people and getting them to give up.

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I don't know who he's talking about.

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I think it's just himself.

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I don't know, but a letter writing campaign could get people to come.

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That's what I've heard.

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That's true.

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I think this launches something of an initiative here on this episode.

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Okay.

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I don't think it's fully spelled out by the clips that I have, but it's more or less,

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let's start protesting at Trump rallies.

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Okay.

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And, but he does, he talks about it a little bit and he's like, I don't want this to be

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like Nick Fuentes going out and messing around with the turning point stuff cause that's

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leading to a schism.

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We want to be friendlies, but also inject our message by protesting at the Trump rallies.

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And I'm like, you guys are just doing this sectarian shit.

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This is all, you're just going to create more, uh, like extremeness within your communities

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and by, by all means, go ahead.

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It's like they're falling ass backwards into understanding how protests work.

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Like it's, it's so ridiculous.

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It's so ridiculous.

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So Alex is not doing great and he's mad at Trump and that's something that he's going

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to continue throughout this episode here on the 27th.

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Alex is in this very confused state about his support for Trump.

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There is an enthusiastic, yes, of course I support him, but also like, I'm really pissed

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off.

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I'm starting to get really frustrated, which is inevitable.

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They just hate people protesting so much whenever it's like, you're not on my team.

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You can't protest.

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But then whenever they want something, they realize that the best way to get it is by

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protesting.

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It is strange.

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Oh God, it's so stupid.

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It's not going to do anything either.

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Like if he goes and starts protesting at Trump rallies, all it is, is promotional stunts

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for himself.

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That's, that's really all it is.

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But who cares?

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Um, Alex complains that like, you know, he did bring up the department of justice not

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doing their job.

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And a big part of that is they need to fucking put Biden in jail.

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It's open and shut.

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So Giuliani was on TV talking about how he's going to, if he just had two people and they

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put him in a position where he could do it, he could prosecute all these dirty actors,

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all of them.

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And Alex agrees, uh, based on a lie.

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So I want to open the phones up today and talk about what Trump needs to do.

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Because you just heard Giuliani, he, all he needs is two people.

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He can indict all these folks.

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It's totally true.

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You could convict these people with your eyes shut.

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My God, they went all over TV and said, well, you know, they were investigating my son.

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So I said, if that guy's not fired by the time I leave at six hours, you're not gonna

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get the billion dollars.

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And son of a bitch, they fired him.

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I had to sit here and put up with that crap from these criminals.

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So Alex is really mad and he's very convinced that the case against Joe Biden will be open

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and shut because like a classic globalist, he went all over television and confessed

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to his crimes.

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He bragged about them.

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It's in the white papers.

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You know, the, you know, the deal.

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If you pay close attention, though, you'll notice how Alex Jones engages in narrative

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sleight of hand.

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He's so worked up in his feelings that the rant moves and flows smoothly.

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But he's very intentionally inserted a lie in there that's meant to support the very

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passion that he's expressing.

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Biden didn't want that prosecutor fired because they were investigating his son.

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But the rest of the stuff that Alex is saying is true.

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In as much as Biden did give a speech where he told the story of threatening to hold up

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money to Ukraine if they didn't remove that prosecutor.

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But this truth is only there to mask the presentation of the lie, which is that Biden's motives

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were personal and corrupt.

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This is a pretty important trick for propagandists and conspiracy theorists.

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Most of the time, an audience like Alex's probably wouldn't even notice, or most of

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them are probably they already believe that that narrative is true.

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By intertwining lies with real things, you create a situation where you can just play

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a clip of Biden saying that they had until he got on his plane to fire this prosecutor

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and your audience will experience it as if the motive part, the part where he was trying

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to stop an investigation of his son, that's what's being proven by the clip that doesn't

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show that.

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You can prove the true part, but the lie is a lie.

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Connect the truth to a lie, then demonstrate the truth and plenty of people will accept

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the lie as part of the demonstrated truth.

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On a super basic level, this is kind of what Alex does all the time with headlines.

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He can prove the headline by flashing it up on the screen, but he can't really prove all

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the nonsense bullshit that he riffs about the stories.

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So when he tries to establish something he says is true, he just references headlines.

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As an example, consider Bill Joy's article in Wired called Why the Future Doesn't Need

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Us.

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Alex has said a thousand times that that article is about how Bill Joy went to a conference

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of high end tech people who they debated whether to kill off humanity or turn us into a dumb

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down mass of blobs sucked into video games or some shit.

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None of that is true, it's not in the article at all.

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It's completely a fabrication of Alex's fantasies, but his listeners have heard him talk about

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it so many times that it's become an internalized truth.

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I've listened to thousands of hours of Alex's show and the most I've ever heard him cite

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from that article is the headline.

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Because for his audience, that's enough.

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He tells the story of what Bill Joy supposedly said and then shows the headline.

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The truth of the headline is combined with the lie of Alex's story and then all you need

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is that headline in order to prove the lie.

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This is a really important fundamental basic trick that Alex pulls and sometimes it's kind

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of hard to disentangle some of the pieces of it.

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It's a lot like if you were injecting a vaccine with poison, giving it to people.

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Interesting way to look at it.

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So Alex, like I said, on the 23rd he had a big piece that he was promoting that he was

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going to have a special report about Epstein, right?

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Sure.

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And it turns out that Alex has decided that he has evidence that Epstein's operation is

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still running even though he's dead.

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Wait, Epstein isn't dead.

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Well, Steve doesn't think so, but it's hard to keep these conspiracies straight.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Okay, okay.

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But Alex is convinced that it's still up and running and here he talks about that a tiny

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bit.

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I mean, it's like a brothel commercial.

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Like you go into the brothel and they got the 20 women lined up right there.

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And you just pick the woman you want.

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That's what this is.

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Except they look like they're 15 years old and that's on YouTube.

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That's what they'll show you.

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Do you know what's down the rat hole?

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And we're just supposed to sit here and put up with it.

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And then the whole media is covering it up and running whitewashes and attacking us.

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And so all these people have signed onto this at CNN and Fox News.

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You've signed on to child molestation, you've signed on to Satanism, you have signed on

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with the devil.

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We're going to go to break, but I'm going to tell us there's this again.

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You're the reason we're here.

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You're word of mouth, your prayer and your financial support.

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And we got products you absolutely need that'll blow you away.

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Wow.

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Great.

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I keep that clip in largely because I want to demonstrate fully and very specifically

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that Alex is using this to market.

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This is not something that is necessarily well fleshed out.

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Not certainly something he's doing a good job with.

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He's not very interested in the story really.

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But what he is doing, he's taking these sensationalizing things about it because he knows that it's

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very popular with people online and he's using it to draw attention to his products.

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Increase engagement.

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Increase engagement.

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I don't want to get too deep into this, so I'm just going to give you a brief sketch

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of what Alex is talking about here.

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He thinks he's cracked the case and discovered that Epstein's operation is still up and running

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because he just found out about a company called Avi Loop.

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This is an aviation branding and flight school classes operation business that's run by a

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woman named Nadia Murashenko.

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She definitely has ties to Epstein.

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I have no idea about the larger picture of her involvement with him, nor do I know if

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Avi Loop has anything to do with his crimes necessarily, but I do know that she was a

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figure who was questioned about this matter as far back as 2010, so Alex isn't really

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breaking new ground on the subject.

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The Avi Loop aspect of the story isn't really even new either.

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Heavy published an article that discusses her weird commercials, the ones that Alex

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is calling brothel commercials, back in August.

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Legitimately, the only thing Alex here is doing is taking kernels of things that actual

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outlets have already covered and adding a layer of conspiratorial, they're going to

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kill me for covering this bullshit to it.

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Alex put out a special report that was a little over an hour on Christmas that he teased as

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being an interview with a whistle blower, like he mentioned on the 23rd.

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And it was an empty chair, a la Clint Eastwood.

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I mean, metaphorically an empty chair for sure.

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This wasn't a whistle blower, it was just a guy who'd done some digging into the Epstein

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story from a pretty conspiratorial angle and insisted on being filmed in the shadows.

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It's just a guy mumbling through suggestive information about Avi Loop as if it's breaking

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news and also weirdly laughing a couple times while trying to get through his script.

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Not like that laughing, but like, hahaha.

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I can't quite tell if it's nervous laughter or what, but it's very strange and it's uninspiring.

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Also, there are multiple commercial breaks in this special report where Alex tries to

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sell you his weird pills.

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My point here is that Alex and his shadowy non-whistle blower are not helping.

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They're not bringing anything new to this story, they're just exploiting it to create

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publicity for Alex.

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And I find that pretty distasteful.

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Not only because I had to watch most of that special report and that fake whistle blower's

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voice is very annoying.

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I'm sorry buddy.

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It's alright.

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So anyway, all that's a bunch of bullshit nonsense.

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Anyway, the globalists.

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Yeah, what are they up to these days?

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They want a face scan.

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They want to put face scans in place.

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Okay, that's bad, I'm against that.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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They're coming to Las Vegas this year, according to Alex, which is, I don't know how, I don't

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know what to say about that.

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I don't know if that's necessarily true or not.

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I don't know what he's misrepresenting.

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I'll leave that for another day because Alex couldn't get through talking about this story

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without veering into something very racist.

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In 2019, they announced starting in Vegas and starting in places like that, because

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they know you're going to Vegas to have fun, and so you'll put up with whatever they want

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you to do.

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Face scanning.

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But there was a backlash to standing there and being face scanned.

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And of course, they're going to let the illegal aliens in anyways.

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Illegal aliens are allowed to hit and run, rob, steal, kill.

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They're just given driver's license in New York.

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New York's another place.

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At LaGuardia, they were starting, or was it JFK?

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LaGuardia's in Chicago, isn't it?

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That was JFK.

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Wow.

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So all of this is going on.

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All of this is happening, and it's just in your face.

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But the illegal aliens, oh, here, just have a driver's license.

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You don't even have to take a driving test.

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Only citizens have to do that.

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Oh, it would be racist if you're from another country.

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Wild.

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I mean, see the footage of thousands of men lined up to get their driver's license, but

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you don't even need the test.

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Just like you can shoot a woman in the back and she dies for no reason, as long as she's

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white.

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Shoot her in the back at the pier with her dad, it's okay.

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As long as she's white.

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So that took a ride?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Alex is completely misrepresenting the issue about immigrants getting driver's licenses,

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because of course he is.

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And of course, he's turning it into a narrative that's primarily about how he feels like he's

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a victim because he's white.

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Sure.

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Right off the bat, it should be pointed out that driver's licenses are given out by the

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state, not by the federal government.

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So the rules in each specific state will vary a little bit.

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What I'm going to lay out is not...

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It's generally true, but there might be slight differences state to state.

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That said, at no point will I gloss over a major anomaly.

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There are currently 15 states where undocumented immigrants can apply for driver's licenses,

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and there will likely be more added to that list soon, as a number of states have bills

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in the works surrounding the issue.

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In most of these cases, all that was really done is to allow a piece of foreign identification

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to be substituted for the regularly required social security card as a form of ID needed

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to be given a driver's license.

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I did not...

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Cool.

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I don't know what the breakdown is on this state by state, but from everything I can

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tell, this works exactly the same as if you and I were to apply for a driver's license,

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just with slightly different document requirements.

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Right.

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You would still have to take the written test, for sure, and in most cases you'll still have

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to pass the driving test.

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Do you have to kill a white woman?

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You do.

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Okay.

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In some states, you don't have to retake the driving portion of the test if you're applying

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for a license and your old one hasn't expired, or if it just recently expired.

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So I assume there may be some states that allow that in these cases, too.

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Like if you have a current driver's license from Mexico, let's say, you might not have

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to retake the driving portion, maybe, but I feel like circumstances like that aren't

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the norm.

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Yeah.

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You still have to take the test.

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Yeah.

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One of the main arguments surrounding these measures in favor of it is that some research

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has indicated that licensing immigrants who were previously unauthorized to drive improve

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safety greatly.

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One obvious reason is that they're required to pass the test.

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Yes, that usually, yeah.

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Which Alex is just pretending isn't the case, but he's just making that up.

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Sure.

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Another reason that this is important is that if they have license, they can get car insurance,

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which makes things way safer for everyone.

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Most of the metrics you'd really want to focus on are improved by issuing licenses to undocumented

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immigrants.

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The revenues increase, overall safety improves, people are able to pursue work opportunities

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more easily that aren't connected to public transit.

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The only real way to be against this is if you really want undocumented immigrants to

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be miserable and ultimately gone, which is clearly where Alex is coming from.

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That seems to be all that's going on.

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So you remember at the beginning of this episode, Alex was mad at Trump?

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Yes.

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Well, here's the thing.

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He meant for that to be a clean take so he could post a video with a flashy headline

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to try and get Trump's attention, but he got sidetracked by complaining about Epstein's

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stuff and how immigrants are getting licenses.

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Yes, that's not easy to sum up with a very simple headline.

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But fear not, Alex has editors and he discusses how they should edit this video while on air.

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Of course.

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I said I'd get to it this segment, I didn't, I'll get to the Roger Stone information in

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the next segment.

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And then we're going to sandwich this next segment in with segment three and we're going

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to post that to Band.video.

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Alex Jones blows up at Trump because I know those type of messages get to the president

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or what do we title it?

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Why isn't the president standing up for himself and others?

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President Trump's greatest failing a message from Alex Jones, President Trump, please stop

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failing us.

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How about President Trump?

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Help us.

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Help us.

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We're good Americans.

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We're under attack.

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Do your job.

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Defend us.

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What do I say to Trump?

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What do we title that video?

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We'll figure it out, but we're live right now.

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And once we post it to Band.video, I need you to send it to the campaign and to the

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White House and to the secret service.

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Send it to the secret service.

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Send it to that secret service.

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Alex feels desperate.

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Yeah, that's bad.

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I need Trump's attention.

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We have to make a headline that sounds combative.

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I think he also is recognizing that it does seem like Trump likes to fight with people.

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If I do, if I say something, he gets messages like that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It seems to like engaging with them.

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So anyway, they'll figure out what to title it, but Alex does not get down to business.

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Instead really freaks out about Q. And I think one of the reasons is that, you know, around

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this, the 27th, there was a number of Q accounts that Trump was retweeting.

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That's true.

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And I think Alex is really pissed off about that.

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I want to see action.

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I want the Q thing, the greatest human movement of private citizens ever in the history of

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humanity.

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That's what the Q thing calls itself.

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OK, well, then deliver some indictments.

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I thought getting Trump elected was one of the modern greatest things Americans ever

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did.

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But, you know, I thought all the guests we had, I thought our listeners got Trump elected,

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but we're nobody.

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We didn't do anything.

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We didn't have Trump on the show.

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We didn't create the talking points for the president.

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We didn't influence Stephen Miller.

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No.

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My mother didn't give birth to me.

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Q did.

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My father is Q. Papa saved me.

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Q is God, actually.

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I'm serious.

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And that's why they're all going to be indicted next week.

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Everything's fine.

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As we one go, we all go.

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In fact, you Q guys are welcome to call in to next hour when I get the number out.

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Tell me, tell me how I'm wrong.

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Tell me about the magic, the power, the insight, the devil.

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Q made this new video exposing Epstein.

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That's on Bandai Video.

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Did you know Q did that?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Q was up here on Christmas Eve.

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Thank God for Q.

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We salute you, Q. Thank you for two weeks they're all indicted, two weeks they're all

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indicted, two weeks they're all indicted, two weeks they're all indicted, two weeks

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they're all indicted, two weeks they're all indicted.

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All I've heard is talk so far, so I want to talk about all that, too.

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But I'm going to get to the president's press conference.

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Alex is so fucking jealous of Twitter bots.

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Yeah.

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He's so fucking jealous.

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Does he not understand these people?

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Oh, man.

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Also, there is a bit of a personal... I do feel like he was convinced by Q for a while.

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Yeah, maybe.

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I hear a little bit of that like, I was hoping for you.

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You know what?

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I wanted indictments.

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I don't necessarily think that's the case, but I can see how you would think that.

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My sense of it and the feeling that I get is more like, what I could have done with

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that.

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Yeah.

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There is that.

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It's almost a missed opportunity that I wasn't able to co-op that with Zach.

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There was.

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Yeah.

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I wish I would have worked out.

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It does.

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It also has a little bit of a-

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Because you can have huge, it's become.

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Yeah.

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It has a little bit of a, oh, I was in AAA and they promoted one guy to the show and

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he wasn't as good as me and now-

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I honestly also feel like even beyond what that angle is, it's the same sort of thing

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as if only he'd listened to Max Keiser way back when he was telling him to get into Bitcoin.

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He could have made millions on it.

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If he would have just gotten on board with Q in the right way, he probably could have

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made a killing off it.

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I think there's that missed opportunity that the opposite of buyer's remorse that he probably

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feels.

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He's got all of these accounts all over Twitter with huge, massive audiences that are all

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fake.

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That are not real.

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And Trump retweeting them and like-

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Man.

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He's got to be furious.

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We live in a weird world where the president is basically a chain email.

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Man.

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Come to life.

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Man.

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We're going to talk about that a little bit later.

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This is crazy.

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It's not pleasant.

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Alex is mad at Q. He descends into that for a bit, but there's headlines to get to, so

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we got to get to the news.

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The new thing in conservative publications is telling people, encourage your wife to

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have sex with other men in front of you.

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Encourage, and of course they know psychologically that will end about half the relationships

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that do it.

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I mean, they're literally throwing a fire bomb into your family, trying to destroy your

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life.

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But they tell you, oh no, no, no, tell your wife, your wife's being like, you don't want

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me anymore?

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You want me to have sex with other men?

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Okay.

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I'll do it.

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Literally, I got stacks of that news too.

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We'll be right back.

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Stay with us.

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It's a family show.

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Wow.

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Alex is, he's Dan Savage now too?

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Is he handling all of it?

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Yeah, man.

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Conservative publications are telling you to tell your wife to go bang other dudes.

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Right, right.

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I mean, while you're watching, I mean, that's a healthy sexual behavior.

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Good for you.

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I don't know what conservative publication this is that's endorsing swinging, but...

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Christianity Today, I believe.

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Alex has already said that people trading wives is manly.

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I don't know why he's bad about this.

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He aches out...

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Not in front of you, okay?

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He hangs out with Roger Stone.

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In a different room.

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What do you think Roger Stone's...

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No!

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Roger Stone covered him.

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He's a libertine.

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No!

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He would never do that.

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Sure, he gets drunk and trades his wife and swaps around and puts his keys in the bowl,

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Dan, but not while he's watching.

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No kink shaming at all, but Alex's position on this is weird, and that's just like a non-sequitur

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going out to break.

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I don't know why he felt the need to cover that, but when he gets back from break, gets

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down to business, and he wants to do his video that he's going to direct at Trump, and it's

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basically just like the same thing he's already been saying.

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The boil down of it is a lot of talk.

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We need some action.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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So you can't let criminals keep doing what they're doing, like, oh, we're going to let

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them try to rob a bank again the last five times they got stopped, but you didn't lock

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them up?

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You let them go organize again and try to rob the bank again and come in and point their

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guns at us and pull all these scams and ride rough shot over conservatives and Christians

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and bully everybody?

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I'm tired of it, and I'm not going to sit here and take it.

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We need action, President Trump.

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All right, I'm going to give the number out.

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I want to get your take on what Trump needs to do in the new year.

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The reason that's really sad to me is that he's absolutely going to take it.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Everything that I've seen, he does this a lot.

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He says, I'm not going to take this, you know, I'm going to make a stand, and he never does.

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It's always just talk.

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It's very sad.

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I don't know if it's infuriating to watch so many of these guys like Alex and just come

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so dangerously close to realizing that they've been scammed, that they've been grifted.

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They just can't cross that line.

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He's so close to realizing what everybody knew in 2015, what he knew in 2015, which

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is that Trump was grifting them.

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He's a liar lying to you to make his own money.

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It's really tough to tell when you're on this ride, when do you jettison?

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When do you sell Bitcoin or whatever?

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When do you avoid the downside by selling?

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I think Alex is trying to figure out what that is, and it's constantly not yet.

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But he's on that line of, I think he does know that eventually it's got to end.

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This has to.

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There's no way.

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It's unsustainable.

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It's not going to work out.

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Also, whatever goals I think I'm achieving through Trump are not happening, clearly not.

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I think he's trying to save victory from the jaws of defeat, as it were, with trying to

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get something out of this.

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Maybe I get back on Facebook.

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Maybe Trump locks up Hillary.

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If I just get one thing, then I can tout that.

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None of this, because right now it feels like all of this has been a massive waste and a

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huge mistake.

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It's taken a lot of energy to convince myself and my audience that's not the case.

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But like I said, I think he's trying to acclimate a little bit to the idea that it is almost

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inevitability that Trump is going to disappoint.

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And so he talks about that a tiny bit here, that even without Trump, the world still needs

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me?

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I'm going to go to break.

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I'll get to the press conference.

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It just makes me so mad.

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I don't even think about it, because if he'll leave Roger Stone out to dry, he'll leave

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anybody out to dry.

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And I believe he's doing the right thing.

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Yes, he will.

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He has to.

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But look at what's happening to Assange.

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Unless you're a war criminal.

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We got Trump elected, okay?

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And he needs to protect the Republic and the American people.

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It's his job.

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Plus, we went through hell to get him in there.

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You did.

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But I know this.

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We put Trump in there.

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He's just one wave in this fight.

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We're getting globalists kicked out everywhere.

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We're having victories on a planetary scale.

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It's critical this operation stay on air and be stronger than ever, even if the cavalry

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from Trump is never going to come.

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We have to just start thinking, hey, the cavalry ain't coming.

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We're the cavalry and you're the cavalry.

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So stand with us, ladies and gentlemen, do your shopping at Infowarsetour.com.

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Smooth, silky smooth.

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Stand with us on the front lines at www.infowarsetour.com or whatever it is.

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There's a lot of that.

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A lot of sales.

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Sometimes the sales are funny.

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Sometimes there's boring, like, yeah, get the krill oil or whatever, fine, whatever.

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Sometimes they're funny.

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We were blessed on this December 27th episode with one of the funnier moments in an ad read

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that I've ever heard.

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We've got some great T-shirts.

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I design most of them, so they're OK.

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We don't have the best apparel.

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There's some patriot apparel better than ours, I'll just be honest.

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But our supplements are the best.

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I mean, some of our shirts are as good as they get.

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We've got the new Don't Visit Infowars shirt.

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I love that.

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Last chance because Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself shirt.

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That's a big part of history.

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That Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself shirt is a piece of history.

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He's monetizing this stuff really aggressively.

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But I love the idea that he's like, some people make better shirts than us.

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I design all of our shirts and look, there's some of them are pretty good.

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You get, I mean, get some, don't get some, some people get better shirts, buy my fucking

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supplements.

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God damn it.

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It's a weird place for humility.

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Yeah, it is a very strange place.

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Especially considering that he's very explicitly saying that that's one thing that I'm directly

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responsible for.

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I design these shirts.

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But he's always the best at everything.

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Yeah, but I think he's blaming the shirt people, you know, the manufacturers who make the actual

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shirts.

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It's like a Zildjian or whatever.

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Okay.

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All right.

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All right.

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It's not a champion.

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Right.

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Sure.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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That tickled me though.

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I enjoyed it.

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That is, that is such a weird place.

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So Alex comes back after the break and he's talking about, you know, earlier he said that

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he was trying to brainstorm what to name this clip to get Trump's attention.

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And I think he realizes that whenever he gets mad at Trump, he gets Trump's attention, right?

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Whenever he lashes out, he gets the attention and he pretty explicitly says that here.

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And I'm just telling listeners, the white house listens to you.

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Every time I get mad at Trump, he tweets out some info wars videos.

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Oh, okay.

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Great.

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Thank you, Mr. President, because I want to get those videos out to counter the globalist

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and defeat them.

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And I know it shows solidarity and we appreciate that.

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That's great.

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Mr. President.

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Gosh.

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He tweets out our stuff every week.

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Now the media doesn't even attack it anymore.

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They don't know what to do.

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They try to tell him what to do.

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He's not doing it.

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That's wonderful.

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I want to see indictments of McCabe and Comey and Hillary.

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And let's start with Strzok.

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Let's start with Page.

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Let's start with Orr.

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Let's start.

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Let's start.

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Let's start.

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Let's start.

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Let's start.

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I haven't really looked at Trump's Twitter account in quite a while, so I decided to

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check and see if he tweeted out any of Alex's stuff lately.

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Holy shit.

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What a mistake.

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That Twitter feed is just drowning in stupid memes and retweets of obviously fake accounts.

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This would be really upsetting as a feed if you just saw it from anyone, let alone the

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president.

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It was not a fun glimpse.

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I realized really quickly why I tend to ignore his feed as well as pretty much most of social

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media.

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It was a disaster area.

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But it's my journalistic duty to at least scratch the surface of these things.

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So I went back to see if Trump really did push Alex's stuff after Alex got mad at him.

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I figured that the time that Alex said Trump had committed treason and may be working for

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the literal devil would be the best recent example of that, and that happened on December

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4th.

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If Alex's premise is correct, then you'd expect to see some infowars around that time.

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I did see two tweets where Trump was retweeting the Trump Organization's promotional tweets

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about Mar-a-Lago opening for the 2019-20 season, with the caption, quote, I will be there in

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two weeks.

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The Southern White House!

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Exclamation point.

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Yes, and that is a totally constitutionally okay thing to do, Dan.

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Let's not get bogged down in that right now.

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I also saw a tweet that Trump was promoting his rally in Hershey, Pennsylvania, saying,

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quote, on my way to Hershey, Pennsylvania, for a rally.

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See everyone soon.

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I love Hershey's chocolate.

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Really?

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It's like a child.

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I can't.

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I can't do it.

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It's amazing.

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I can't do it.

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I love it.

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Can you imagine if we had, if Reagan in 86 were able to tweet, it would be bananas.

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Like the, the mushy brain of these two guys belongs in some sort of...

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I love Hershey chocolate.

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Jesus Christ.

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There were plenty of retweets of Breitbart, Daily Caller, and even Newt Gingrich's podcast,

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which I did not know existed.

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What?

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No!

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Newt Gingrich has got a podcast.

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Who is listening to Newt Gingrich's podcast?

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Oh God.

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I saw plenty of Info Wars type information flying around, but I didn't see any direct

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evidence of Trump tweeting out Info Wars stuff or other people's stuff.

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I think Alex just perceives that Trump throws them a bone whenever he starts getting mad,

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but I don't know if that's true.

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I don't know.

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Strange.

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Yeah.

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I don't know if that's the illusion that he likes to live in, but like whenever I get

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out of line, Trump gives me a sign, but I don't know if that's true.

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I get a little squeaky wheel gets the oil kind of situation.

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And now the show gets weird.

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Now it gets weird.

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Now it gets weird.

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Okay.

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Compared to the last three years of our show or?

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This episode takes a turn.

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I don't know what prompted him to say this, but I got really excited when he did.

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I'll tell you how to carry the cabbage.

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You know what I'll do?

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When Richard Reeves is in here at the bottom of the next hour and everybody knows I'm bad

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about doing stuff.

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I say, I'll do on air cause I get busy and forget.

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So they're going to put on screen over here at one 33 I'm going to tell you the big secret

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of the new world order.

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The big enchilada when Richard Reeves is in here with us, I'm gonna lay it out the real

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deal, why they're doing what they're doing, who the factions are and the decision you've

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got to make, you want the heavy, heavy, heavy stuff, you're going to get it today.

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I told you no more games, ladies and gentlemen, everything, everything's going to come out.

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No more games.

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I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, Dan, he said that directly to you and

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he is not going to deliver on that because he's fucking with you.

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I swear to God, Dan, I swear to you right now.

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That is exactly what you have wanted to hear for so long.

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You know, he's not going to deliver, Dan, those are the words almost word for word that

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you've wanted to hear.

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Let me tell you, Jordan, here's how I experienced this, exactly what you're saying.

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Not that he's fucking with you, of course, because that would be silly, but I did hear

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that and I was like, there's no way this is going to happen.

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But let me put your mind at ease.

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He does, but it's forced, brief, and probably one of the most insane things I've ever heard

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him say.

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All right.

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I like it.

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Is the secret of 2017 still Megyn Kelly?

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No.

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Okay.

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It has changed.

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Dude, there could not be a more invalidating thing for Alex to say is the heart of the

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New World Order, the big secret.

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His career is meaningless, but we'll get to that at the end of the episode.

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You son of a bitch.

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You're teasing now.

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Well, I got to do what Alex does, but for now, Alex talks about nothing for a while.

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Mostly, I mean, he starts talking about how Texas is really great.

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You know, when the mafia goes and harasses, say all the cleaners in a certain part of

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a city and tells them, if you don't pass protection money, something bad is going to happen to

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your drivers that are picking up laundry.

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Those are famous cases.

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And then when they don't, somebody fire bombs the laundry or the grocery store.

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The FBI goes and they arrest the members of the mafia that came in and threatened the

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store owners.

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So this is meant to be like, you got to arrest the deep state.

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You got to arrest all of these people.

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That's basically the metaphor he's trying to make.

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That's why mafia like that never took off in places like Texas.

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Because if you walked in to a dry cleaners in Texas with a Texan owning it, and you said,

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you're going to give us money or something bad is going to happen to your business.

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You would be killed right there.

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You would be killed.

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I mean, my grandfathers were just normal Texans, nice guys, super went to church, helped always.

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If you came into their business and said, we want money, we're going to kill you.

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They pull a gun out and shoot you dead.

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Everybody knew that.

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That's why you didn't do that.

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They kill you just like that.

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People that I grew up around, the last group of Texas would kill you just like that.

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There was no question of it.

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If you messed with them, they'd kill you.

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I'm going to leave aside the Mexican mafia stuff here, because clearly that's not what

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Alex is talking about.

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Alex is full of shit.

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There was a really big mafia presence in Texas, most notably the Cervelo family, which coincidentally

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was known as the Dallas crime family.

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I say coincidentally because Alex grew up in Dallas.

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So the people he grew up around would be people in Dallas who were alive when the Cervelo

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operation was up and running.

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Sure.

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Nothing that Alex is saying is true, but it feels true to him because how he's mythologized

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the Texan.

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His ego is so wrapped up in this legendary character that it seems impossible to him

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that any Texan would be shaken down by a criminal.

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That's just his feelings.

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He has no idea what he's talking about and it makes no sense.

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Shouldn't he know that there was mafia in Texas based on his JFK conspiracies about

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Jack Ruby and his associations with Sam Giancana and Joseph Campisi?

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No.

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No.

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Don't even worry about it.

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How could he not?

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Well, and as everybody knows, one of the foundations of the Texan myth is the cowboy.

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And in the Wild West, no one was afraid of criminals.

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Criminals definitely didn't go from town to town causing issues.

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Certainly not.

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That's not an issue.

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Nope.

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Because everybody there was a Texan.

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Yep.

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Everybody fired on everybody for no reason.

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Right.

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So he's rambling about nothing for a bit.

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Sure.

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And then Alex gets down to saying something pretty shocking.

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And that is that if Trump doesn't purge the government of his enemies, then Trump's got

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to go.

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Okay.

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And also this clip involves one of the longer pauses.

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So your phone is not fucking up, just a fair warning, a very long pause.

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Trump and the Republicans are going to go to war with the deep state and they're going

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to remove these devil worship and scum, or Trump needs to be removed, period.

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And we need to get somebody in there that'll do something about all this because I'm done.

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All free number to join us is 877-789-2539 13 second pause after he realizes he's just

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said Trump must purge the government or we'll get someone who will.

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Yeah.

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I halfway think that was supposed to be edited out and put in that video.

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That might be the reason for that pause of like a timestamp.

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Yeah, possibly.

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Yeah.

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But he says a little bit more about it and like he's pissed off.

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He's like, Trump, you got to do this, you got to get my enemies out of the government.

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But he's also wants to make sure that it's like, I still support Trump though.

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Don't get me wrong.

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Why are these people so stupid?

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I pray for the president and I pray for justice and I support the president and I support

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him in this campaign for another 311 days.

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But man, am I going to feel suckered if he gets into office again and then these people

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aren't prosecuted that they don't get in trouble.

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Yeah, you are going to feel suckered.

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This is the same thing he said four years ago.

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Trump is the real deal or I've been tricked.

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I'm going to support him in 2020, but I'm going to feel suckered if he doesn't take,

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it doesn't solve our globalist crisis immediately after.

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It's just stop it.

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Oh man.

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Getting suckered all over the place.

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But really the reason that Alex can't let go is because like Trump only won because

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of him.

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Everybody within Trump's orbit during the campaign was just ripping off Alex.

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Alex is basically the president.

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If you really think about it, I really do think he believes that.

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Yes.

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I mean, there's a lot of demands we need to make of our president.

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We're not in a cult here.

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We put him there.

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He adopted the nationalist Patriot movement as an operating system to counter the globalist

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because the Pentagon came to him.

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He is the operating system America's always had.

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Jones has popularized it.

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We've we've written it into a codified plan.

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This has even been in the New York Times and it's accurate.

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The Stephen Miller basically took our research, our work and which is great and presented

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it to the president.

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It got adopted by Bannon.

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Bannon didn't come up with all this.

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Bannon is a movie screenplay writer.

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Okay.

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They wrote a screenplay off this show.

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That's why the left so pissed.

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They've got all the phones tapped.

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They know and they know the White House still listens every day.

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Okay.

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But I'm not a screenwriter.

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I'm Alex Jones from Texas.

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I'm for real.

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You understand?

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I'm a hundred percent for real.

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I mean all this dust.

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I don't even, I don't even believe that you believe that.

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I know that doesn't sound sincere that you saying you mean this.

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I don't think you mean that, but I do think he means that Stephen Miller sounds a lot

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like him.

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I agree.

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He certainly knows that Stephen Miller is also a white nationalist.

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Yes.

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I agree.

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Yeah.

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I just feel so much anger at Trump and a lot of it is petty resentment.

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A lot of it seems to be like, you're not paying attention to me.

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You're not doing what I want you to do.

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So I'm going to lash out.

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I'm going to start talking about how it was only me that led to you getting where you

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are now.

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You owe everything to me and now you're not taking care of me.

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It's just sad in this next clip, uh, Alex talks about Antifa and uh, apparently, did

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you know that Bill Ayers leads Antifa?

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I did not know that.

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We learned that here.

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I know.

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Well, we saw him just recently at the Chicago teacher's strike.

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He was not leading Antifa there.

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Wow.

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That's a, cause he does it by night.

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Oh shit.

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I didn't realize that.

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And it turns out all Trump would need to do to stop all civil unrest in this country is

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bust some Antifa leaders, right, because then you'd find their contracts like the one he

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found on 4chan and it would lead all the way up to the top.

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I refuse to believe that he says that this is so dumb.

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The feds go bust any local Antifa leader.

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They're led by the weatherman in Berkeley.

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They're led by famous professors in the weatherman.

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It's the weatherman that means Billy bust them.

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They've got, he doesn't know anybody else, corporate documents.

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It's all signed.

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They have officers in everything and they go out and hire meth heads and idiots that

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don't know what they're doing.

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That's organized crime racketeering, ladies and gentlemen, Antifa is always off limits.

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And if you go out and they persecute you, they ban you like the proud boys or info wars

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because it's their decoys for when they stage a big event.

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That's who the deep state's working through.

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This is their front and Soros's son runs it.

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We got the secret documents.

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The FBI confirmed they're real planning to violate citizens, civil rights, to keep people

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from having their speech and to trigger race riots that target local government police

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departments to overthrow city governments and install globalist over cities in blue

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cities that aren't under their total control and some red cities.

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This is so disconnected.

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This is man, whoever, whoever made those fake contracts really did a number on Alex.

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They really confirm a lot of stuff that is just dumb.

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He really wants those contracts to be real.

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They have to be.

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The fact that they are, I mean, they go against every possible reality.

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Every motivation that any actor in the situation would have are completely contradicted by

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those documents.

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The only people who would ever consider making those documents are Alex.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But he needs them to be real because they are proof that Alexander Soros is basically

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running a terrorist organization.

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As he's talking about it, that leads him to, I'm going to say this, I don't think that

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in this clip Alex is calling for people to kill the Soros family.

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But I do think it's debatable whether or not that's a message you could take from this

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clip.

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Okay.

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That's not a good sentence.

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No, it's not.

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And neither is this.

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You understand, folks, you can't leave Soros and these globalists like Frankenstein going

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around the villages at night.

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That only encourages them.

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And so they need to know that we know what to hit.

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Why do you think they want us off the air?

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We have the Death Star plans to use that allegory.

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We have them.

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We have them.

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We have them.

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We have them.

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We have them.

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We have them.

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Defeat them.

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Defeat them.

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Remove them.

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Remove them.

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No more games.

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No more garbage.

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These people are freaking evil, man.

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Bunch of devil worshiping Aleister Crowley pedophiles.

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I'm not going to sit here and let these people run my life or my children's.

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What about you?

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What about you people?

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The reason I think that that's a potential reading of it is just his normal tone.

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Yeah.

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The way, you know, the starting with you can't allow people like Soros wandering around on

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on the streets, like Frankenstein, you could make an argument that that's talking about

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locking him up and incarcerating him, but it's also like the tone on his show has gotten

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a lot more violent lately, and I think that you could take that and you could apply context

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clues of what Alex wants to do to satanic demon pedophiles, and you could make a pretty

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strong case that those elements come together to that being pretty fucked up. I mean, it's

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fucked up no matter what.

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I mean, if I remember my Shelley correctly, I do believe the townsfolk, upon being confronted

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with Frankenstein's monster, decided to hold a free and fair trial and let him out on bail,

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made sure that everything was taken care of.

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Due process.

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Yeah, yeah, they were really into that. If I recall correctly, that's how they wanted...

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Yeah, I mean, it evokes violence being done against these people, and it's just not good.

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It's not good. So there's a bit of that going on, as is sort of tradition in our modern

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day episodes. This is much more regular, but he doesn't stay on that topic too long because

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he's got to get back to petty grievances.

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Sure, sure. He's done a lot of great stuff. We just need him to really crack the whip

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here. I'm not backing down. I didn't back down whenever, grab him by the you know what

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thing and everybody was turning on Trump, and I called everybody and I said, don't turn

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on him. Roger didn't even know what to do at that point. I said, it's all bull. It's

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out of context. It's locker room talk. I put out the talking point. Everybody adopted.

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You're the one? You're the one?

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Talked to high level folks. I said, locker room talk, locker room talk.

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Really?

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Out of context, edited, old.

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Did you help them assassinate anybody too?

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And they're telling them, oh, there's an inward tape. And I called people that know Trump

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really well. And they go, no, he's not racist. He likes white people a lot. And he likes

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black women particularly. And we've never heard something like that. And I went on there

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and I said, the inward tape is fake folks. But they were trying to panic everything right

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there to get folks to turn on Trump right at that moment. And I didn't do it.

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So I think it's hilarious the idea that he's like, I started locker room talk. That was

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me.

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I am amazed. That is a big swing.

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Now, that's all ludicrous. But what's worse is this and worse tape.

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Did you know that I started Yes We Can back in 2007?

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I started that up. I started Where's the Beat?

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Did you? That's a good one.

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Look, the funnier thing is Alex's take on the inward tape thing. Because if you recall,

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what happened there was someone trolled Paul Joseph Watson by sending him a Twitter direct

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message and saying that they were a producer with the ABC, CBS. I don't remember what network.

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Yeah, NBC that had a copy of this tape or had seen it and the media was going to run

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with it.

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This guy was fucking with Paul. Paul delivered this message to Alex. And in January 2017,

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Alex was on vacation and recorded this probably on a plane. You can hear people in the background,

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but it was such an emergency for him that he needed to get ahead of the story.

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We are now about three and a half days out from this historic event taking place. And

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Paul Watson wrote a big story yesterday concerning a NBC source. And it looks credible. I'm not

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saying the report's credible. I'm saying that the source, it looks like he is at NBC. And

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we have quite a few sources. I'll just leave it at that. But there's a tape compilation

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going back over the 14 seasons or whatever of The Apprentice with him sitting in the

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chair saying things like his son's retarded and making dirty jokes.

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And supposedly the n-word. The thing about Trump, whether this is true or not, is the

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topic that I've known him for a long time is he does like to basically tell dirty jokes

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anything that a comedian would do. And he doesn't do it that often, but almost like

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a stress reliever or a way to break the ice. He will sit there and a lot of times actually

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deprecate himself as well. So that was his take on that. I think it's

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a little different than how he's portraying it now. But whatever, Alex, you started locker

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room talk. Congratulations on that one. I refuse to believe that a human being exists

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who doesn't. Look, I don't care if there's a tape or not. If you think that Trump doesn't

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say the n-word, you're insane today. That's crazy.

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If you look at the decisions he's made about renting his apartment, the Central Park Five,

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I think it's beyond credulity to imagine. And I think plenty of people believe that

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and support him for it. I think you are beyond ridiculous if you don't think that he... I

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mean, that's just silly. That's just silly. Alex's take on this person who is trolling

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him on Twitter was to say that he looks credible without looking into it at all and then do

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damage control. Because obviously he would do that.

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Preemptive damage control for the inevitable release of this tape that Alex thinks is coming.

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He wasn't saying that it's not real. Please. Anyway, Alex goes to calls. And this first

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caller is upsetting. I think Trump needs to call out the Marines.

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I think he needs to arrest people. They need to be tried for treason.

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Because here's the deal. We all hate the police state. The police state is what the left's

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doing lawlessly using the apparatus against the American people. It's not a police state

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when you've got internal traitors trying to overthrow the election. It's what you do.

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They've led us to this point. It's the default position that if he can't get the Justice

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Department to take action, they need to be arrested. They need to be cleaned up and the

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American people will support it, damn it. Yes, they will. They'll be behind him a hundred

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percent. Once he's ensconced safely in his second term, Alex, we need to immediately

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start agitating for what FDR said in World War II. You don't change horses in the middle

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of the stream. He needs a third term. He needs a third term. We need to agitate where there

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is. Immediately after getting a second term?

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Well, that would certainly drive him into conniption, Fitch.

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You see a little bit almost exasperation from Alex after this guy was like, he needs a third

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term. I think that's a little bit too much for Alex to commit to, but calling out the

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military and cleaning out his enemies, Alex will double down on that and like, yes, absolutely,

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and also he needs a third term. Well, that would freak out the left.

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God. Stupid.

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That's, they just, does nobody ever read a history book?

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Also, that implies that this caller thinks that we're in a situation equivalent to World

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War II right now.

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Yes, exactly.

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And it, but see, this is what's great about this imaginary war with these imaginary enemies.

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It never will be done.

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No.

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So if the premise is we can rationalize keeping him in office as long as this war is ongoing,

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you've backdoored a dictator.

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Dan, are you telling me every fucking, how do they, how does it still happen? Isn't that,

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it's bonkers to me, the idea that you would trust the guy who's currently in government

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any more than the previous guy in government to bring the Marines in to get rid of their

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enemies.

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Right.

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Even if that, even if that's real, that's always used to turn everybody into a dictator.

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And Alex would tell you that 10 years ago. Alex would warn you about that 10 years ago.

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It's never gone the other way. And they still do it. They still cry for it. These people

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are insane.

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That's wild. So Alex has tried as best he can to get Trump's attention on this episode.

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He's threatened to put a scathing title on one of his videos.

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Oh, it'll do it.

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He's said, uh, maybe I'm out after you get reelected.

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Of course, of course. Well, he's still got to support him.

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And now I think he's descending to implied threats.

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I want Roger Stone pardoned the day of the sentencing, February 7th and Trump better

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do it. I mean, it's, it's that simple, dammit. I mean, my God, Roger Stone, if he wanted

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to could destroy Trump. Okay. And it's not bad stuff. It's just what the, what the media

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would do with what Roger Stone knows about Trump would, would, would, would really hurt

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Trump.

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Okay. With evangelicals and others, it's not like Trump's gay or something, but I mean,

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you know, I mean, the sordid details would not be, you know, good. And I didn't get that

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from Roger. It's just well known. Okay. Uh, there was his wing man, you know, and the

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whole nine yards. And so I just get your buddy out of jail, man. He didn't do jack crap,

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but you didn't lead with, he didn't do jack crap. You led with, he has damaging information

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about you.

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He did a ton of evil shit. Yeah. Now he's sort of painting this like, Hey, you know,

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Roger will fuck you over if you don't get him out of prison. Yeah. It's almost blackmail

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sort of implied black. It is exactly black male, I believe. Yeah. But it's, I mean, it's,

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it's secondhand black. Yeah. Yeah. Not good. So Alex takes another caller and Hey, guess

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what? This one's upsetting to Trump said all these things and talked a good talk while

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he was out on the campaign trail talking about you need locked up when Hillary said that

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it's a good thing.

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People with his temperament aren't allowed into law enforcement. We're done waiting.

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We're done. We're done sitting here on our hands being told next week, next week, it's

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going to happen. The indictments are coming down. We're done. We're done with the talk.

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Like you said earlier with what a bar said, let's fish or cut bait. Let's do it. We're

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done waiting. We're done sitting out here trying to rub two pens together to pay our

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bills while people are here making millions and billions of positions in political offices

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that they've got and they give it to their children. We're done. I don't know that you

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guys, but in Oklahoma, the good old boys up here, we're about done. We're done with the

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talk. We're done with the waiting. We're going to make something happen, whether that be

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good, bad, or in between. What time it has ever given up their power peacefully. What

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time it has ever walked away without there being bloodshed. There will be blood and there's

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some of us who are ready to shed it.

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Well, Casey, I would say that they've gone way past the point of where people don't have

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a right to take action physically. The problem is they've set it up where they make us the

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villains at that point. That's why it's critical to put that violence into action politically

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viciously in free speech. And you got a great spirit and great voice there. And just imagine

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how much energy you can expand waking people up and letting Trump know that you want action

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ahead of having to use that type of energy in violence.

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They want to start an offensive operation. You just heard the last caller and he was

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dead right. They want to false flag us. Obviously we never target innocent people at a Walmart.

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Obviously we wouldn't just target the police. Obviously, no, no. I don't want to target

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anybody, but people like Nancy Pelosi, people like her son, people like Hunter Biden, all

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these criminals that think they're above the law, thumbing their nose at us. Why are they

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the ones that are never the targets of political violence? Why is it always at church? Why

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is it always innocent people? Because most of it's staged. It's anti-foot posing. They've

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been caught as Patriots carrying out violence. So I hear your anger, Casey, and God bless

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you, but put that anger into action. Go to a Trump rally peacefully and just wait till

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he pauses and then say, pardon Roger Stone, info wars.com. And they'll know you're a friendly.

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They'll agree with you. And then start saying info wars, info wars. And I bet the chant

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gets picked up and that sends a message to everybody and it puts a giant target on my

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back today. It's already so big. Just make it 10 times bigger.

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Holy shit. I'm shocked. Alex didn't offer him a job, quite frankly. So this caller is

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tired of the waiting, which is kind of what happens when you do this to people. When you

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create a really highly intense thing and then give expectations of, Hey, the thing that

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you're really angry about is going to come and this guy is going to deliver it when you

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know full well, that's not going to come. Eventually they're going to get to the point

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where they're really fed up and feel like they're devoid of any other outlet other than

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this anger and this violent expression. That's what this caller is manifesting. It's the

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logical end point of a certain amount of people who get sucked into things like Q. So he's

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expressing this and like, I, you know, there's going to be blood and I'm ready to shed it.

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Alex's response to that isn't so much, no, it's, Hey, they deserve it. Of course they

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do. They're way past the point of deserving it, but don't do it. It'll make us look bad.

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It'll look terrible. If you murder all of those people for things that didn't happen

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and aren't real. Why aren't Nancy Pelosi? Why isn't she ever the target? Nobody's ever

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killing them. I'm not saying you should an irresponsible thing to say in the context

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of this conversation. And then it leads to, Hey, don't be violent. Just give me free press.

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Yeah. Go to a Trump rally and yell in fours.com. That'll make everything better. This is really

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bad. This is really, really bad. That is, that is a, like if you have whipped people

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up into that much of a frenzy, if he had been in public saying that to all of his fans,

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they would have booed him roundly. There is no, you don't whip up a mob frenzy and then

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go, and now, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. You guys are acting all crazy. We need to focus on a letter

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writing campaign. Can you put up signs of promoting my show? Yeah. Burn the witches

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and call them all. But Hey, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. Let's not actually commit any violence. We

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just need to put up signs saying no more witches here. Come on. It's absurd. But you see that

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like repeatedly. That's what Alex keeps doing. He's trying to transmute this violent anger

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that is the natural end point of the disappointment of these aspiring authoritarian followers.

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And he's trying to take that and be like, how can I monetize this instead of recognizing

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it as a really dangerous sign about what the community that he speaks to is like a very

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high percentage of these callers are deeply disturbing calls. Yeah. And I I've never found

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his calls to be great or healthy. Sure, sure, sure. But a much higher number of them lately

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have been along these lines. And it's not it's not something that he should take lightly

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or be you should feel responsible for it. No, it feels like for the past, what, 13 years,

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the right wing media machine has been edging 18 to 35 year old men with the white violent

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guns with all these guns and then just never let giving them that release. And now it's

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really coming to the point of a boil. Yeah. Like so many of these guys are just like,

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you've told me that there's tyrants. Yeah. Yeah. Told me everybody's going to kill. Yeah.

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When do I kill people? You promise you promised you promised I'd get to kill. I find that

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to be upsetting. And I think Alex is in a situation where he has a responsibility to

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deal with it. And he's not. Anyway, we have one last clip because Alex promised to reveal

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the big secret of the Illuminati. Oh, he did the New World Order. He did. So here's the

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thing. He has Richard Reeve in Richard Reeves. I don't know. He's a friend of his. He's back

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in the he's just a buddy. He's credited as a reporter. I don't know if he is. He was

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just somebody who Infowars had out at like Trump rallies back in 2016. He doesn't come

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up much. I don't. I don't know who the fuck this is. But anyway, he's a big Trump supporter

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and he keeps wanting to like, but in. But Alex is like, I'm a no, I'm going to, we got

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to take calls. We'll get to what you want later. It keeps getting pushed back. He's

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not getting the Steve pajonic treatment. No, no. Well, actually kind of because Steve kept

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wanting to plug his book and that's fair. So Richard has something he wants to get out.

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And it's basically that we should bring back American empire. So really, yes. Wow. Where

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Alex goes with that is very upsetting. And I think an invalidation of his entire career.

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So Mike down for this because the secret of the New World Order is upon us. What I wanted

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to mention is before you leave, I know you got to cut out and you've got a lot of work

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to do, but why does our flag only have 50 stars? You know, recently it came out in the

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news two or three months ago that Trump was looking at buying Greenland or whatever. And

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of course, you know, now the home country or whatever is probably not going to want

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to sell it. Well, hell, why don't we just go ahead and do an expansionist effort and

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potentially make, bring in other states of the union all over the planet, you know, in

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a.

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No, I agree because people want us actually sign on to us. Exactly. If you're not expanding,

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you're contracting instead of the TICOMs just taking people over. How about we say, hey,

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you want to sign on, bring them in that way. Exactly. We could have a hundred stars. Globalists

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are doing their rallying populations, not even for their own interest, but against America.

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We should be rallying nations for everybody. Exactly. The country. That was the big secret

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of the New World Order is they sold it as that. But then it wasn't what it was. Trump

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can take the whole New World Order over now, make it ideological, and people want to join

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it without being made to it. There's no reason why we can't have a hundred stars in that

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blue field. I think that we just have to highly vet countries. We should we should approach

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countries that are most like ours. The people are ready. I mean, what about if we don't

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it's me, the TICOMs. Exactly. Understand there's competing ideas here. Right. People have people

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you get with a program. You need to get with the program. Trump could take over the New

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World Order and make a one world government. Alex has backdoored himself into a one world

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government. I know refuse. The big secret of the New World Order is they're doing this

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thing bad, but Trump could do it. Good. Do you? You should have. There should be a court

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order to send these guys to some sort of school, like any sort of. You should have to know

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community service, no jail time. You have to go to classes and learn about the shit

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that you are saying, because you have no. You hate immigration so much. So let's just

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let them become states and then they have free right to travel. Oh, God. These people

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are so fucking stupid. Yeah. I mean, like all Alex is doing there is I think it is an

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extension of what Richard is bringing, that there should be expansionism, bring back the

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days of colonial, empowering and whatnot, which probably isn't a good idea. No. Even

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in a soft way where they get to vote to join the union or whatever it is they want. The

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only question that I really have is, is that what Alex was going to reveal as the big secret

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of the New World Order or was that improvised? That's a really good question. Because if

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it is that I'm flummoxed by the big secret of the New World Order being now Trump can

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make an ideological New World Order. If that was intended, that's insane. Yeah. If he's

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just riffing around, that's what his brain came to. I think it implies on some level

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he does want a one world government, but it's the only thing that makes sense. The United

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States is the one world government. So fucking stupid. Every single thing about like what

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he pretends to stand for is completely invalidated. I am against a one world government asterisk.

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Well to be fair. Unless Trump and slash white nationalists run the one world government.

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To be fair, he is saying that if we don't do it, China will. So at least he has some

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excuse there. Secondarily, he's not necessarily talking about a one world government. He's

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just talking about a hundred countries around the world that are now all America fighting

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with the other countries that are now China. So I guess he wants two world governments

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that will be in a battle for supremacy. An eternal bipolar war. Or it will end with one

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of them being successful and then we'll have a one world government. Which naturally means

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that most likely both of them will be destroyed. Yes. Yeah. Cool. This is dumb. Go to school.

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This is very. Go to any school. This is very childish stuff. Jesus Christ. I just see,

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I see a very weird mixture. First of all, nothing Christmassy about any of this. No.

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Very disappointing you didn't throw any axes. Would have preferred that. Yeah, definitely.

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No singing, have yourself a merry little Christmas. No. Nothing. A lot of saying that he's better

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than Jesus. That's for sure. At least once. You know, there's just this, this mixture

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of really petulant child stuff. Like the, I want Trump's attention so badly. Why won't

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you give it to me? You must crush my enemies and you're not doing it for me. You have that

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mixed in with these completely ludicrous ideas. Like Steve Pachani coming in, talking about

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the end of representative government, the south has risen again. I killed each soccer

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beam. I like that though. Right. But you have that. And then he threw some fastballs in

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that interview. Right. And then Richard Reeve coming in and them having a conversation about

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a need for us to be a one world government expansionist nonsense. You have these completely

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ludicrous ideas being presented. Like how would you have America expand while Texas

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and Florida secede? Where, what are we talking about? What the fuck are we talking about?

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Okay. We're going to, we're going to have Texas and Florida secede. We are going to

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add in, let's go with Uruguay. That one's ours now. Great. I'm going to go with, we

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split Australia in half. We'll take Sydney. They get Melbourne. What else? Who else do

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you want? Are we fantasy drafting a one world government? I think that's what they're doing.

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I think that's what they're doing. Wanna, like those two things can't really coexist

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like as ideas. They're, they're, they're dissonant ideas. So I mean, it's just, you're just talking

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bullshit to the audience. Like all of these ideas are bullshit. Yeah. And then at the

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same time, the third element of it is this input from callers is growing to a point of

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really scary input that mirrors some pretty scary things Alex is saying. Yeah. So you

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have these three trends that are just like, I don't even, I, the show is, it's very bad.

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It's interesting to me, but only in as much as like, I just continue to be just overwhelmed

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by the idea that people listen to it and take it seriously. Especially in the present day,

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the more listened to it, it's like, I can't believe people can't see through what he's

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doing. He can't see through what Trump is doing, I guess. So he can, you would hope

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you could see that he can, he can, but he can't, he can't, he can't bring himself to.

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And I imagine that's the same thing that so many of his listeners, he can't bring himself

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to because there's a financial motive to not, I mean, I'm not sure how many of his audience

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members have, well, there's a, there's at least an emotional and, uh, uh, it sucks to

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admit you've been scammed. True. It sucks to admit that the person that you believe

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so much, so much is actually a lying piece of shit grifter. True. So it is a common response

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to just say, nope, doesn't matter. Fine. You know, everyone's in denial. Yeah. Everyone's

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in denial. That I believe. Yeah. And it's leading towards a, like a dangerous, uh, conflagration.

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Absolutely. So we will see what happens with that. Hooray. Uh, but Merry Christmas and

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happy holidays. And now I will throw a hatchet. Right. Where are we going to throw it? We

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do not have a large studio. I hit the camera. Uh, we'll be back. But until then we have

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a website. We do have a website. It's knowledge, right. Dot com. You're right. We're on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed. Jordan. We are on Facebook.

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We are indeed. We are also on iTunes and other podcastual apps. Please download, donate,

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review the whole shebang. Do it all. We'll be back until then. I'm Leo. I'm Leo. I'm

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DZX Clark. I single handedly took down the Soviet union. Andy in Kansas. You're on the

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air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

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I love you.