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Radio, radio, radio, radio, radio, radio, radio, radio, radio, radio,

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knowledge fight, Dan and Jordan, I am sweating, knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.

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I have great respect for knowledge fight, knowledge fight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.

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It's a knowledge fight.

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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.

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Need, need money.

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Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy, stop it, Andy and, Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy, it's time to pray.

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your word, knowledge fight.

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Knowledgefight.com.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes, I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Indeed we are Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan, actually before you get your question, I am excited to hear your question.

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Yeah, hell you are.

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I had an update on your question from the last episode.

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Sure, sure.

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That dawned on me after we finished recording.

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Okay.

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You asked about like songs that stick with you.

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Yes.

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That you can go to.

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Help you get through, yeah.

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I realized that there was a good example of that.

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Okay.

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That I had in mind, and I just started talking about the boss tone, so that was good enough.

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A song by a guy named Greg Brown.

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Okay.

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Called Dream Cafe.

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Okay.

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That's one, when I was a younger dude, my dad loved Greg Brown.

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He has this great, like gravelly voice, folksingery kind of guy.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He had this album.

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Chris Christopherson type deal?

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Yeah, not as, I don't know, I would say more subdued somehow than Chris Christopherson.

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Gotcha.

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But he has this album Dream Cafe that my dad would play all the time, and it's just amazingly

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soothing to me.

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Yeah.

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A lot of that album, but particularly the Dream Cafe.

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Fantastic.

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I have never heard that.

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That I will check out.

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I recommend it.

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Anyway.

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Of all the songs that you have ever recommended me, that is the first one that I am very interested

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in listening to.

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It's very comforting.

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Yeah.

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It takes me back to a time of like sliding across the floor in my socks.

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Oh, that's like footloose, not risky business style.

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Well, not quite.

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Not footloose.

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What was I saying?

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But I'm sorry.

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You had a question?

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Yeah.

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That's my question.

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I can't answer that question.

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It was so long ago.

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It was so long ago I had a question.

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Oh, what is like a common act that you find meditative?

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like some people find meditation and making a sandwich like really well, like the Japanese

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tea ceremony.

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Do you have an act that you find to be meditative?

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Listening to Alex Jones.

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No, you do not.

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How dare you?

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No, I don't know.

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Maybe taking a bath.

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If you're asking just about like what is calming to you, I don't know.

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You used making a sandwich as an example, so it feels bad for me to be like... I've

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had a lot of people who've come to me and said like, I've brought up that I cook like

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turkey bacon.

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It takes a while because I'm in the pan and people are like, put it in the oven.

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It's much quicker.

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I kind of enjoy the process of it.

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There you go.

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That's what I'm looking at.

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Or even a better example, I have a dishwasher, but I wash everything by hand.

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I like it.

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I always, I enjoy the act of sitting there and wiping the dishes and rinsing.

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Yeah.

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See, that's what we're talking about right here.

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It takes me back to the days when my dad would be playing dream cafe and I had to do the

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chores after-

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You were riding along the floor in your socks.

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Had to wash the dishes after dinner, listening to Greg Brown's gravelly voice.

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Dry off the plates with your socks and then slide on the floor.

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This is a podcast where I know a lot about dishwashing by hand and Alex Jones.

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And I really know a little bit about both.

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That is right.

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Jordan, today we are in the present day because why wouldn't we be?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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There's interesting things afoot.

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In the world there is.

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Yes.

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That's what I would say.

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Right.

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Good episode, dad.

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We're going to get out of here.

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So today we're going to be going over November 20th and 21st, which is Tuesday and Wednesday

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of this week.

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No, Wednesday and Thursday of this week.

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Yes.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And yeah, I mean, we'll see what happens.

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Alex is not particularly interested in a lot of the larger world events that are going

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on.

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Naturally.

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We're getting a real Somali pirates couple of days, huh?

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We'll get into it.

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Oh boy.

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So before we get to that, though, Jordan, we're going to take a moment to say thank

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you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.

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So first of all, Michael, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Michael.

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Thanks, Michael.

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Next, Lenny.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Lenny.

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Thank you, Lenny.

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Next, Jen.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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Next, Brian with an e.

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What?

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Whoa.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you so much, Brian.

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Thanks, Brian.

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Next, Hannah.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Hannah.

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Thank you, Hannah.

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Then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of people who signed up on an elevated

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level, and we appreciate it very much.

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So first of all, always screaming internally.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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And Sable.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey, mate.

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That's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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All right.

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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson.

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All right?

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Let's just get down to business.

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We ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why are you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large.

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I declare info war on you.

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Thank you so much.

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Always screaming internally and Sable.

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Yes.

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Thank you very much.

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Why were you laughing when I said the name Sable?

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One of them is an angry always screaming internally, and the other one's silk.

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I find the contrast to be very fun.

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I thought you might have been laughing because you were reminded of the female wrestler.

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I knew you were going to bring that up.

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Who was married to Mark Marrow.

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I knew that was him.

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I knew that was...

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Who's Sable again?

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She was the master of the Sable bomb.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So, Jordan, today, like I said, we're in the present day, and there's some real disappointment

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in terms of Alex not talking about some of the issues that you maybe want him to talk

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about.

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Right, right, right.

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In terms of the impeachment proceedings.

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That's kind of a big deal.

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Yeah.

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I think on it has been pretty consistent in terms of it just being like, ah, it's bullshit.

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Right, right.

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Why won't they talk about the Bidens?

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As the testimony has gotten more and more stark and angry.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's been tough for me to keep up doing the show, especially because I have been trying

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to take as much time that I have available as possible and watch a lot of the impeachment

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hearings.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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This is history happening in front of us to an extent.

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Yeah.

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And no matter what direction this goes, this is notable.

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This is shit that should be remembered, but will almost certainly be forgotten by the

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election.

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It's pretty crazy.

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And so I've been spending hours watching this testimony.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So I'm very interested in how this went down, whether there's any credence to Alex's notions

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about this being bullshit.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, no.

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I've had it on all day.

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And then also, I'm worried that Alex is going to start talking about it.

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And then you're unfamiliar.

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Unfamiliar in what has gone down.

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And so I've spent a lot of time, and my assessment so far is it's not bullshit.

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No, he did it.

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And also today, on Thursday, as we're recording this, Fiona Hill testified-

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Dropping in some Roger and info wars news.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I saw that.

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They discussed how she was demonized and targeted by Alex.

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And to her credit, she brought up the fact that all of this Soros stuff is basically

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a modern day rehashing-

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Protocols of the Elders of Zion, yeah.

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Exactly.

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It was like, oh damn.

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Oh shit, she is listening.

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I don't know if that's the case.

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I don't think she is.

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But I enjoyed seeing that.

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It's a nice bit to bring to the conversation.

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It is.

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And will almost certainly infuriate Alex.

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Oh yeah.

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But to the extent that I have heard, because we're covering today's episode on this episode.

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I have not heard him respond to that, but I imagine, I mean, his name came up in the

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impeachment hearing.

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He's going to say that this impeachment is all about him and Alex.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He has to.

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Yeah.

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He has to.

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I expect more coverage of this in the future.

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But instead, today on the 20th to the 21st, we get other things.

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Right.

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And so here's an out of context drop from today's show.

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Rob Dew's quite the aggressive basketball player.

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He got a scholarship for basketball, but that's a pointless factoid, isn't it?

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Yep.

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It sure is.

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It's like Rob Dew being real, real Charles Barkley going for the rebound.

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That's kind of a mean thing to say, muscling his way into the paint, that Rob Dew, boxing

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out.

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It's like this accomplishment, these guys, it's a worthless piece of shit.

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I know.

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What's the point?

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He got a scholarship for basketball.

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What a pointless, what a fucking boring thing I just said.

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This achievement.

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And that is definitely a part of your history is pointless.

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How dare you make me know it?

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I'm angry at Rob Dew for telling me boring shit about his life.

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So on the 20th, on Wednesday, there's big things happening in the world of Austin, Texas,

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and Alex is sure to be making himself a part of it.

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President Trump is, as we speak, taking off from Washington DC on Air Force One and beginning

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the trip, the three hour trip to Austin, Texas, where he's going to be with Tim Cook, one

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of our favorite people.

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I know I'm one of his favorite people, Mr. Crazy Eyes, a head of Apple that has the worst

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slave factories in the world and has moved its code keys and control of its company to

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communist China.

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He's going to be here in Austin at one of the few Apple factories left in the United

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States in North Austin.

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And I am intending to go up there right towards the end of the show and leave a little bit

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early.

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Yeah, no shit you are.

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Yeah.

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The timing and circumstances here could not be more ideal.

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Alex is already planting seeds in his audience's mind about Trump not valuing his true supporters.

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And so soon after, here's Trump coming to Austin, but he's not coming to visit the Texan

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as they call Alex in the White House or as Alex says they call him.

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Sure.

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They call me the Texan.

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They sure do.

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He's not coming to get briefed on all the evil globalist shit that's going on.

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He's coming to do a PR trip to the Google factory and he's being accompanied by literal

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demon globalist Tim Cook.

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So that is really good for Alex's.

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If you're looking to jump off that ship, then the time might be now and having him stand

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up with the fucking, the guy who owns the worst slave factories in the world.

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According to Alex.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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There's no coming back from that, right?

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This gives Alex an amazing opportunity.

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Trump is in Austin.

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So obviously Alex has to go.

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Trump is going to Google.

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So obviously he's not there to validate Alex.

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All Alex needs to do is show up and be ignored and he has the next stage of his breakup narrative

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perfectly staged for him on film.

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He's going to Google or Apple?

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Apple.

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It's Apple.

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Yeah.

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Sorry.

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Sorry.

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Excuse me.

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Yeah.

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So he comes to, you know, he's coming to Alex's city just after Roger Stone gets convicted

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and did nothing about it.

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And instead of meeting up with his loyal supporters, here he is glad handing with the enemy.

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This is a perfect layup.

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Yeah.

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You show up, you start bullhorning about how he's got to pay attention to the true people

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or you show up outside there and you start bullhorning about how he's part of the globalist

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conspiracy now.

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Yeah.

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He's been corrupted.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, I, uh, I may have slipped up there with Apple and Google because Alex uses them

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interchangeably.

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Yeah.

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Well, naturally, naturally.

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This is the worst lay factories in the world.

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So yeah, we're good.

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So Alex, uh, he's announced that he's going to protest, but he's not protesting Trump

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or is he?

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This is a fine line to walk.

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Trump just left about 45 minutes late.

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So I'll be able to finish most of my broadcast and I'm going to go up and deliver a message

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directly to the president.

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Uh, I'm, I don't want to say I'm going to protest the president, uh, but I'm going to

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deliver a very forceful message to the president and to that demon creature he's traveling

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with, uh, Tim Cook.

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So Trump coming to Austin, it puts Alex in a precarious position.

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On the one hand, he's been pretending that he and Trump are basically soulmates and on

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the exact same wavelength for years, Alex's information has changed the course of history

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and Trump loves what he does and has since day one.

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On the other hand, none of that's true.

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Trump being in Austin is a kind of no win situation for Alex if he wants to keep up

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that charade because Alex knows that if he goes to this plant, his audience will expect

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him to be greeted warmly by Trump as a hero and as a guest.

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Maybe he'll let Alex come along with the tour and yell at Tim Cook, which Trump secretly

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wants to do, but he can't because it's a statesman, but everyone knows that if Alex shows up,

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he's going to get the same reception he does everywhere.

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He's going to be kept out by security and reduced to just yelling on the street into

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a bullhorn.

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But why would Trump allow that?

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Not going is not an option unless Alex wanted to pretend he has like a secret meeting with

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Trump at some clandestine location, but that's going to be really difficult as a lie to pull

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off.

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Nobody's going to buy it.

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Yeah.

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At this stage in his career, I don't think Alex is up to trying something like that.

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Alex has to go and he knows that when he does, he's going to be rejected.

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This is the perfect setup for the delivery of a forceful message, which will fall on

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deaf ears and make it that much easier for him to argue that Trump is not their guy after

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all.

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This is perfect for him.

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Yeah.

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This is the optics of being, you've got somebody with the camera while you're being pushed

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out of the, you've got security telling you that you're not invited in there anymore.

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You got the camera, everybody can see in the, in the wing nut community that Trump is pushing

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him away.

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He's pushing all of us away.

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Alex is our symbol and you do adopt him and the revolution begins now, right?

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And simultaneously there's going to be a ton of people who are there on the left, let's

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say protesting Trump's visit and Alex can yell at them too.

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He can get all the imagery that he needs out of this, regardless of which direction he

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wants to go.

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It's almost a perfect setup for everything except maintaining the status quo, which he

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is going to try and do as hard as he possibly can.

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I assume I'm not positive.

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I have very mixed feelings about it, but one thing that is staying with the status quo

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is that the globalists are demons.

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They drink blood and they're possessed by immortal spirits.

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Okay.

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And the system screwed.

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Yes, you're screwed.

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It's over.

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We all know you're devil worshipers.

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Okay.

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We know you're blood drinking, child raping, you don't live forever, but the demons in

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you do live on body to body.

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So see the archetypes real.

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These are quasi immortal blood sucking demons.

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Oh boy.

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Somebody he's not allowed to use the word.

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He's not allowed to use quasi ever again.

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It's holding a lot of weight there.

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Quasi immortal, what the fuck are you talking about?

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They can be staked.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Whatever.

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Then they turn to dust.

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Whatever.

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Yeah.

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Fine.

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They're quasi immortal.

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Quasi immortal, except if you throw garlic at them.

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I don't think I've ever heard anybody use the prefix quasi in a way other than being

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kind of shitty about it.

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Just hedging.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You're just trying to be like, well, this is the point I want to make, but I don't want

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to make it too strongly.

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I don't have the courage to say it all the way.

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Yeah.

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It just happens there, man.

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The problem is that he doesn't stand up for Alex.

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I think in this episode you see a fair amount of Alex being like-

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Personal betrayal.

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Yeah.

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I think so.

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Remember Google said the Republican party's main affiliation is Nazis on Google and Trump

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does nothing.

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He'll be hanging out with Tim Cook today who runs the worst factories on the planet with

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suicide deaths.

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And again, I'm a big supporter of Trump, glad it's not Hillary, but when it comes to saying

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he's going to take action on big tech censorship, it's coming.

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It's going to be strong action.

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You heard that, you know, six months ago to where is it?

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Where is it?

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And now turning point USA and the rest of them are acting worse than leftist blocking

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whole groups of people from coming and asking questions at their events.

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And Trump signed an executive order saying he'll take money away from universities if

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they let groups do that.

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So the neo-cons and ever Trumpers are taking over Trump.

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And so if you want to know why people like Matt Drudge are pissed at him, there's your

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answer.

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I mean Drudge links to my super hardcore stuff.

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Trump, why are you saying you're for red flag laws?

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Better not do that.

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Hey Trump, do something about censorship or we're done with you.

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He would top link that, that's Drudge's message to the president.

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Now I'm not going to abandon the president, but there's a, there's a split here because

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if you support him and then he's like Hillary light, well, if Hillary was in, she wouldn't

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have gotten away with this.

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I think.

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I'm glad she got beaten.

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Great.

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So I, I told you that there's no way Alex would ever go against Drudge.

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And I think that, uh, we're seeing that, yeah, yeah, this is, he's defending Drudge's waffling

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on this.

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He's going along with basically that exact line and the weird part in the middle of there

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is the bringing up the turning point stuff because the people that they're trying to

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keep out are acolytes, white nationalists.

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So in the, in the first part, I've, I believe correctly, he's mad because Google is, isn't

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even stopping people from assuming that Trump is a white nationalist and then in the second

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part he's mad because Trump isn't protecting out and out white right nationalists.

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He's not forcing turning point USA to allow these white nationalists to co-opt their events.

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Yeah.

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Apologies.

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Yeah.

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It's a bunch of bullshit.

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Yup.

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So a large part of this episode, in order to not really talk about the impeachment stuff

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and not talk about anything really substantial, so much of it is just yelling about child

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abuse and demon vampires, sucking blood and rituals and all that stuff.

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And I'm not going to cover any of that stuff because I find it irresponsible in its core.

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I find it to be corrosive and toxic, even to a point where us covering it, I don't think

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is, I don't think it merits covering.

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I think it is atrocious and I resent Alex for it now.

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Fuck them.

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Yeah.

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In the course of talking about that, there is one thing that I find interesting and I'm

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going to play this clip because it's not that gross.

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It's not really gross necessarily, as I recall, but it tracks with something that we've been

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paying attention to.

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And that is Alex's stories of going to satanic rituals when he was a kid, we know that he

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got tricked into going to two of them.

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And this is interesting because we learned a little bit more about that.

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You have to understand that I've actually researched this because I ran into this when

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I was a teenager and I didn't know that we'd moved to a town that had been taken over by

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it.

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Well, what do you think was the richest County in Texas when I lived there?

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That's where the money is, is where you're going to find this stuff.

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And I never took part in rituals, but I got fooled into going to them twice and got out

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and had to kick some ass one time.

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Okay.

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And they didn't want me to diddle me and stuff.

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They wanted me on the dark side to be an operative and thank God, thank God I didn't get caught

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up in it.

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So three things.

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First, I got fooled twice.

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What's that expression?

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Fool me once.

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Shame on you.

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Fool me twice.

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A man.

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You're globalist, aren't you?

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God damn it.

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Second.

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I, this is a new wrinkle to the story that he didn't fight his way out of it.

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I appreciated that one.

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I had to kick a little ass on my way out.

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I appreciate that we just suddenly added that one to a satanic ritual.

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I got tricked into going to a satanist demon ritual and I fought my way out.

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Like Kurt Russell in Big Trouble in Little China.

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I feel like if that was a real story, that would have been how he told it every single

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time.

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He proved it from when he was nine.

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He'd be telling that story the same way.

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Second, if this is a satanic coven or whatever that's doing these weird rituals, I don't

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think that no one's going to be armed there.

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No, no, I mean at the very least there's one ceremonial knife.

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Like there has to be.

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I don't believe for a second that a youthful Alex could fight his way out of a real satanic

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ritual because the stakes of letting him out are way too high.

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They're very high.

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They're way too high.

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They're very high.

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And they clearly are fine killing people, their satanic ritual coven.

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Yeah, but there are rules.

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There are rules.

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If you get outside the circle, one, everybody has to fight you one at a time.

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You can't gang up on them.

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It's like Mortal Kombat.

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Absolutely.

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It's the rules.

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Yeah.

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Third thing, Alex is so in line with his sense of self.

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He has to make sure that you understand that he was tricked into going to this ritual so

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he could be one of the powerful ones, not a victim in the scenario.

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That was inescapable.

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Yeah.

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Even within his weird delusions, he has to make sure that you know that like, I'm not

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a- Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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They weren't choosing me to be one of the ones that was taken advantage of.

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Because even the most evil satanist folks recognize the strength that's in me.

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Yep.

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That's gross.

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But it speaks to his psychology very clearly.

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When I heard that, I laughed really hard at the fighting his way out.

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And then I was just like, yeah, that's exactly how Alex would tell the story.

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I was not there to be diddled.

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Yeah, and that's exactly how... It is kind of disconcerting how very similar malignant

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narcissists are.

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Because you could totally see Trump trying to do the exact same thing in telling one

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of his bullshit stories.

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Sure.

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Like, I need you to know, I am always the strongest person in the room, always.

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Even stronger than these demons around with Trump.

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I'm stronger than all of these statesmen and heads of state.

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I am the strongest one.

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Can God make a mountain he can't move?

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No, but he can make a mountain I can.

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Yeah, it's upsetting.

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Yeah.

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So like I said, a lot of the episode is about this.

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And I wish I would have cut some of the clips maybe, because some of them do drift into

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real serious racism surrounding some of these rituals and drinking children's blood.

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But I can't bring myself to do it, and I think it's just too gross.

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So that's most of this episode.

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Jesus.

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The 20th.

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It's very heavily- That's too much.

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Yeah.

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I'm telling you, listening to his present day episodes like this last week has been

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a disaster.

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Is that even okay to just do like three hours of fucking borderline torture porn on the

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radio?

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Well, it's a family show.

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Okay.

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Well, that's fair.

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It's not wall to wall that.

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There is also just boring stuff in there.

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Right.

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Like ads.

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Yeah.

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And there's also just stuff that I'm like, that's not even worth covering.

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Or I don't have clips of him saying that the impeachment is all just bullshit.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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There's that peppered in too.

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Right.

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Right, right, right.

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Of course.

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No, I honestly don't think that this is okay to do.

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There's kind of a show.

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I'm not saying that the state should stop him from doing it, but I think it's wholly

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unacceptable.

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And I would find it unacceptable for us to go over it, so we shan't.

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So there's not too many clips from the 20th, because it's a lot of that.

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But we do learn something about Alex's plan to go give a strong message to Trump.

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Yeah.

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Not a protest.

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A strong message.

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It's a protest, but not necessarily against Trump.

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Yeah, right.

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Strong message.

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Sure.

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And that is, you know how he's been going around in a tank?

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Yeah.

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Turns out he bought it.

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I'm going to get in my car, I'm going to drive to North Austin where Trump's going to be.

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And the armored vehicle we did just purchase, we just ran into it a month ago in Dallas

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with the security up there, and we got a good deal on it.

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That way we can grow into the Antifa, they can't get to us.

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We can deploy massive sound with a new powerful sound system that will be debuting today with

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President Trump, and a lot more.

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So he bought this armored truck.

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Your business is going under, allegedly.

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He just talked on the last episode about selling his fucking house.

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That's what a fucking dictator does two years before they get deposed violently.

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That is insane.

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It either is, or it's an indication that he's fucking gaslighting his audience.

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If you can buy an armored car, your business is not nearly in the kind of trouble that

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you're pretending it is.

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That's a crazy person thing to do.

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Well, because it's not necessary in any way.

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And I priced this out, and it's kind of difficult to figure out exactly what he'd be paying,

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but it's in the tens of thousands of dollars for that armored truck.

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No, I would say it's at least, if he's also got a massive sound system attached to it.

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He has a couple of speakers on the roof and a mic that he's holding.

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It's not necessarily the...

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That I could see you getting on the bargain.

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That is maybe a grand, maybe.

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But I looked at the range of armored vehicles that are similar to the one he has.

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And he doesn't have a sunroof.

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He has a latch on the top of it, which I imagine would probably be an add-on.

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I think they have to take that off, actually.

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The chassis are all built with that.

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Even if he got a pretty good deal, I don't see this being less than $30,000 for this

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car, which is unnecessary.

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That's troubling behavior.

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That's a red flag behavior right there, if you're around a person like that.

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It would be tough to be a listener to the show.

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Let's say you really believe that he needs all the support in the world right now, and

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you got to go buy the product.

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Let's say maybe you bumped up your donation or your sale to him.

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And then, I don't know where you find he's spending tens of thousands of dollars on an

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armored truck so he can go agitate people.

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It's not...

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No, no, Dan.

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It's so he doesn't get attacked by Antifa.

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Of course he needs that armored vehicle.

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It's absurd.

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It's a really silly thing.

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And he gets to basically expressing why he bought it.

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Oh, no.

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That's how we fund this operation.

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We've got big plans with PR with the armored vehicle.

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PR is with the armored...

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Now, gentlemen, when I have an idea and I know that idea is going to succeed, if I take

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action with that idea, the idea has never failed, thanks to God's discernment that I've

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been given, and thanks to the fact that we are working together and building the resistance

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to this globalist satanic operation together.

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So I didn't do this.

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We did this together.

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And that's not patronization telling you how great you are.

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You need to know how important you are and how much I want to salute you and how much

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I want to thank you for buying me an armored car.

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Yeah, I mean, it's very clear there, the PR from this car, because he recognizes that

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it's not that interesting for him to show up and yell at people anymore.

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You escalate the spectacle, like Alex getting out the tank top of armored vehicle with a

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sound system, yelling at people.

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He just thinks that this is somehow going to be like, I'll get press out of this for

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sure.

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The stooges at Media Matters and Right Wing Watch, this will be like the siren song to

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them to give me free press.

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And it does not bode well.

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If you're willing to spend whatever price you're paying for an armored vehicle, for

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whatever diminishing return kind of publicity you're going to get out of driving around

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in an armored car, yelling at people, what do you think the next step is?

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Flying a plane around and yelling at people?

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Sky riding, yes, absolutely.

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That's not- He should have skipped armored car and gone

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straight to sky riding.

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Like legitimately, I don't know what else he could do that'd be more bombastic and more

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like... I'm sure he could come up with something, but-

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I mean, I just see that this is like, to me, this is the version of the cult leader insisting

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that everybody must take a vow of poverty and everybody must give him all your money.

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And then all of a sudden he's wearing all these diamond rings and you're like, wait,

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wait, what the fuck are you doing there?

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And he's like, no, no, no, no.

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It's about appearances.

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Whenever I go out into the world, I have to look like I'm powerful and I have to look

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like I'm this, all that stuff.

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It does have that vibe, too.

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You're just a fucking thief.

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It's not a good look.

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No.

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It's not a good look for him to rationalize this by being like Antifa attacks me and thus

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I need an armored vehicle because you already have ex-Blackwater security guards.

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I don't know what kind of protection you need outside of that.

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It's crazy.

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That argument doesn't really work.

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And then the argument that I have big plans for the PR I'm going to get out of this.

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I don't know that I saw a ton of coverage when he went to the Hillary event in the armored

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truck or whatever.

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Well, he forgot to write Infowars on the side.

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This is the issue here.

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Why is he not hiring me?

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I just think that this is not going to work for that end either.

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If that's his primary motivation, then obviously the next stage is something more extreme,

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and I just don't know what it is.

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Billboards.

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It could be a billboard.

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He's going to go with Clear Channel, I think.

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He's been asking his audience to buy him billboards since forever, so that's not a step in the

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right direction.

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Why didn't he ask his audience to buy him an armored car then?

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Why are we just now getting the armored car idea?

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Because he's desperate now.

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Because he's losing his mind.

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So in this next clip, this is the last one from the 20th because Alex leaves earlier.

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Sure.

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Tom Pappert takes over in studio.

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And so, Alex, this is gross, man.

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He's talking about Trump and how he's not against him, but he's going to go yell at

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him.

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Sure, sure, sure, sure.

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Just the way he describes him is so telling.

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And really, Alex Jones bullshorns Trump because, man, we need reinforcements.

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We don't need Trump parading around with the ringleader, a big tech that moved everything

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to China is doing this.

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We're not against Trump, but we got Trump elected.

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And let's say we're like the kids that got Trump into office and we're like, hey, dad,

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what are you doing with the guy that wants to put us in prison?

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Hey, dad, what are you doing with him?

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If you get him to do the right thing, that's good to meet with him.

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But if we haven't gotten relief and then the censorship is getting worse for everybody

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now, then you need to do something.

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Dad, do something.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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That's kind of what we've felt for a long time, that sort of paternalistic view of the

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president.

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And that's good.

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Good for you.

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I mean, that's what they all want.

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We hired you to be the big strong man who does this so we don't have to.

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I don't want to have to agitate.

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I want you to do it for me.

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Right.

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I mean, it's what Steve said when he came back.

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We got him in office so he could do these harsh moves and then not answer any questions.

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He had to be strong and silent.

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Yeah.

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I'd rather he make the wrong move confidently than make the right move quietly or whatever

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it is.

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And now Alex sees daddy hanging out with the evil villain, Tim Cook, and you got to ask,

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why would you do that?

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You're not helping us.

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I know, Alex.

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I know.

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Think about that.

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Just reflect on that.

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But I think he is.

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Yeah.

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I think I get the sense that he is.

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Right on time.

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He leaves and here's a little clip of him out bullhorning at the Trump rally.

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It's just like a sizzle reel of people giving him the finger.

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I don't know if this delivers a strong message to Trump, but it works for PR with the giant

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truck.

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Yeah, it does.

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So that was the main goal of it.

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He put out a five minute sizzle reel, maybe three or four minutes sizzle reel.

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That's just him like, ah, yelling at folks.

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And then I went and watched the like 25 minute longer one.

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It's like, wow, that was an accurate sizzle reel.

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That is exactly what happened.

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It's nice whenever they can really edit, edit properly.

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It's just the people there who are like, uh, protesting Trump and then, uh, Alex yelling

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at them.

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It's like, Jesus, this is sad.

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And he's got the, he's got the armored car in the background.

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He's popping out the top of it for a lot of it.

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That is such, that is such Trump in the fucking helicopter.

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That is such Trump standing in front of a goddamn helicopter.

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Just God, you're so sad.

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It's so sad.

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It's very sad.

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It's pathetic.

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So we get to the 21st and Alex opens the show a little bit weirdly, whatever reason the

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zeitgeist was so intense last night, I could not sleep for the first time ever.

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Not because I was forcing myself not to sleep, but because I couldn't sleep and I was not

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tired and I'm not tired now that was without the aid of coffee.

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And some people can do that.

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I mean, I can go to bed at night at night and sleep till 7am the next day without ever

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waking up.

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And I'm a very sound sleeper.

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What happened to the sleep apnea thing?

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He said he was not.

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He said he was a super not sound sleeper.

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He said that he had sleep apnea so bad that CPAP machines wouldn't work.

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And he had to sleep sitting upright and never for longer than like an hour or two at a time.

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Yeah.

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What's the story here?

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I don't know.

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I genuinely don't know.

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I don't either.

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I don't know what he's lying about.

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No, something's a lie.

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Yeah.

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I can see him lying either way too.

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I can see him lying to act pathetic so he can get more money and I can see him lying

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to make it look like he's stronger so he feels better about himself.

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And really elevate whatever is happening in his world by being like, everything's so serious.

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I stayed up all night last night.

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I never do that.

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Yeah.

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In my 27 years on air, I've never done that, blah ba do ba do.

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I don't know.

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It gets to the point where you listen to enough of his show, if you have a critical eye looking

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at it, you will find contradictions and it's just like, well, something's a lie.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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Yeah.

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Cool.

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Anything could be real.

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No, but the not being able to sleep checks out a bit more with the manifestations of

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his behavior, but that doesn't mean that it is the truth.

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I don't know what I think anymore.

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No, I have no idea.

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This dude is fucking out there.

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I certainly don't really care that much.

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No, he's fine.

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So Alex starts complaining about how the globalists, right?

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Sure.

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You know them.

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I've heard.

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They're evil.

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Yeah.

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They like to push the idea that one group is behind all the evil in the world.

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Like let's say the Masons or the Catholics.

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Hold on.

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The globalists like to push the idea that- Yes.

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That sentence cannot be.

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Well, so what they do is they foster groups that are like, hey, you know what's wrong

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with the world?

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Masons.

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Everything is a Mason conspiracy.

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Okay.

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Now you take a step back from that and you recognize that Alex is doing the same thing,

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but with the globalists- He can't say that.

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He cannot say that.

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He does.

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He can't say that the globalists want to make people think that it's one shadowy.

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You can't.

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Well, he does.

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And it's to get into a very brief discussion about how Benjamin Netanyahu has been indicted.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So there is a movement in the world, the globalist push, that wants to always say it's Masons,

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it's Catholics, it's Jews, it's Chinese people, it's Russians.

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It's the globalists.

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It's like supremacists, Nazis that secretly are dominating and ruling the world.

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And really it's just evil groups of people of every race, color, and creed that work

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on the same wavelength and want the same global government post-human world.

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And a great little window into that that I just noticed today is Benjamin Netanyahu,

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it's been ruled in Israel, is going to stand trial for bribery and is going to stand trial

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supposedly for hosting dinners over the years at his house that the government paid for.

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Yeah, they're big sticklers over there.

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Not allowed to pay for dinners with government chefs on charges of bribery.

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Now the Rothschilds supposedly founded modern Israel, but they have a larger goal in mind

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for that.

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These are as a clash point.

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Hold on.

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Wait.

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Point of order.

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Netanyahu out.

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So, so see, how is Israel one monolithic power?

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Ah, you see, I have no fucking clue what it is.

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What he is saying.

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Well, he's saying that, uh, like, you know, some people say that the Jews run the world,

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but in reality you got Benjamin Netanyahu, who's being indicted and it's all being spearheaded

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by the Rothschilds.

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Yeah.

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It's like, oh, okay.

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That's, that's what I was, what I was getting is that, see, some Jews are good.

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This is why you don't turn to Alex for news coverage.

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This is why.

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Cause you just leave with more questions.

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Yeah.

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I don't know what he thinks.

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I'm, is he, does he think I'm surprised that Israel's doing something he thinks is bad

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or he thinks it's even bad.

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I don't understand, but this is supposed to be the thing you remember in our first episode,

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our first episode, the red alert in our theme song comes from Alex talking about how Benjamin

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Netanyahu is going to be indicted.

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That's a canary in the coal mine.

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Be red alert, the globalists are making their move.

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That's when it's time to pray.

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This is not fair.

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It's not fair.

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You're supposed to still care at least.

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Almost three years later, it's no longer the canary in the coal mine.

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It's just like, eh, the Rothschilds are forcing them out or something.

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It's very weird.

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Man.

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You just want, you just want it to pay off.

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When it does happen, whenever he makes a prediction like that and then it does happen, you want

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it to pay off somehow, not just having to be like, eh, well that's new.

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Well, it's because three years ago he only cared about this because if Benjamin Netanyahu

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was indicted, it meant that the globalist were about to come for Trump.

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Yes.

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Even if he still believed that he's got this like, eh, Trump isn't helping us.

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Why would he scream about it being time to pray anymore?

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Yeah.

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His whole outlook has changed.

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There's much more of a like, let's just talk about the fucking marquee issues.

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Let's get back to like all our enemies are demons.

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Let's just stress on that.

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Right.

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Maybe we'll be able to sell some jeans.

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Let the chips fall where they may.

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Yeah.

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Good stuff.

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So also Alex now has finally found out about the fact that there's stories about Stephen

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Miller's emails coming out.

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Right.

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His take on it is interesting.

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New York Times.

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Stephen Miller is a white nationalist.

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Does it matter?

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Yeah.

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Now Stephen Miller is Jewish.

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He's pro-Israel.

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His parents are leftists who were anti-Israel, basically from what I've read and heard and

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seen him say.

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And he just thought it was crazy growing up in that circus and he loves America and common

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sense and believes we're allowed to have a border and believes it's not right to say

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white people are inherently evil.

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You know, Martin Luther King agreed with that.

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And then this big article that came out two days ago, I just learned it last night, it's

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all over the news.

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They're saying Stephen Miller must resign because he's a great patriot advising the

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president on common sense.

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I don't think they wrote that America first.

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And the ADL is saying he is a Nazi.

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You read the quotes and what's the proof?

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All the things he said he was helping John Breitbart before he became the main advisor

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to Bannon on the real nomenclature, it turns out they got 10,000 emails.

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It says surreptitiously and guestily blueprinted the Trump resistance off of Alex Jones and

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Info Wars.

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Apparently he sent that Katie McHugh and Info Wars article.

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And so now Alex is like, he's molded the entire thing.

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I mean, look, I don't want to sit here and go in depth on this Stephen Miller story,

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but I recommend anybody who's interested, go ahead and read some of those articles.

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You'll see how much bullshit Alex is talking here.

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But importantly, over the span of this, we've heard him say that, or indicate support for

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the Nick Fuentes wing that's trying to agitate at turning point events.

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He's saying that Stephen Miller based his stuff on me and is great and they're calling

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him a Nazi for it.

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You see what he's doing.

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This is very clear, the type of voice he wants to defend.

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He's choosing his side of the schism, that's for sure.

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And it's way far to the racist and to the right, even of like just normal Trump.

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So that's the way the ball is breaking.

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Oh man.

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We were...

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A lot of my predictions are coming true here.

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So I don't know if you've seen this on the social media, Jordan, but there's a video

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picture that's going around.

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Greta Thunberg is from the time travel.

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Not that one.

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Not that one.

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This is a South Dakota math ad.

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Oh, that's good stuff.

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The ad is...

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Math, we're on it.

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Yeah.

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Love it.

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Fantastic.

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I got it.

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It's poorly done.

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I don't know why.

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How could you mistake it?

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So Alex has a take on this ad, which is dumb.

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You've seen the big ad that came out this week in South Dakota saying, meth, we're on

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it.

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And then shows individuals saying, meth, I'm on it.

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It's not a Monty Python joke.

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It's not a pun.

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They put that out to freak you out, not to make sense.

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They want you on meth.

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That's what I'm all about.

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It's been declassified.

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Yes.

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See, this is what I'm here for.

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This is getting back to the roots of the very beginning.

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That's what I love.

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A boring, dumb story about somebody making a mistake and then be like, see, that's what

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they want you to do.

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Yes.

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Perfect.

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The problem that I have is like, yeah, someone should have caught that and that should have

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been changed, but we're on it is like, it colloquially does mean we are taking care

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of this.

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Oh, yeah.

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No, no, no.

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It's not something like, we do it.

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Oh, no.

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It's one of those things and it happens to everybody and I think we should be 100% forgiving

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of this because it's one of those things where you're like, you're not focused on the outer

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edges.

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You're just really paying attention and you're just drawing this diagram out.

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You're at the office.

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You're drawing this diagram out and then somebody looks down and they're like, you just drew

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a dick on that paper and you're like, no, I beat, oh, God damn it, I did.

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There is that or there is a possibility that I would even believe that somebody is fucking

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around internally.

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Yeah, that could be.

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And then people are just like, we didn't catch it.

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Yeah, that's true.

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I don't see this as that big of a thing, but apparently it's been declassified that they're

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trying to get people on math.

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How quickly did they declassify it?

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It must be something old that's been declassified that this is now a permutation of in the nomenclature.

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Right.

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Whenever they first had the first episode of Breaking Bad, they started this whole plan.

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Alex does talk about Breaking Bad being a predictive programming, trying to get you

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to do math.

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Put your back on it.

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I don't know how much that show glorifies math.

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It's pretty against math usually.

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I think.

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Yeah.

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So Alex yells more about the demons and the child blood drinking and what have you that

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the globalists do.

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And he insists that he is not over demonizing the globalists.

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And we're not over demonizing them.

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You have to understand that it is the radicalization of these people has gotten more intense because

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once they sign on to hate of Trump and America.

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Which we do have to sign, but the Trump's a good guy or bad guy, once that figure heads

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up there and they're and they're told, act out, go crazy, be nuts, then it just becomes

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anything attached to Trump.

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And if Trump is some satanic weapon system, which I don't think he is, I think he's like

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more like the Joker card.

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It could go both ways.

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Why did you bring it up?

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Like, I don't think I know.

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Trump's weren't like a crossroads.

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Trump's like a manifestation of the group collective consciousness.

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And you can see that the guys like streaming it like oracles do.

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But if we don't rise the challenge and defeat the globalists in this round, Trump is actually

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just manifesting and energizing the globalists and their minions.

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To absolutely.

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Build themselves into a completely spiritually mutated horde that is not discredited and

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defeated.

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Even though it's pathetic on the surface, we'll start taking over the system and we'll

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start enslaving people.

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I like how all those pauses.

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He's got to feel at the end, they're like, I landed that sentence that was touch and

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go.

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I don't know how he can be proud of that, but good for him.

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Well, I mean, at least it came to a conclusion.

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Yeah, it did have a period at the end.

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So yeah, apparently Trump, if we don't defeat the globalists now, Trump in effect is really

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just helping the globalists.

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These are the sorts of things you would never hear him say before.

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This is a, like, I know it's not anti-Trump, but this is a massive departure in the way

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he's discussing this.

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It feels like he's having that identity crisis moments that would be acted out metaphorically

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in a movie as like a two sides of his own body fighting each other and he's split apart

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and he's really sick and he's got a fever.

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But the gung ho Trump support doesn't seem like it's making much of a case.

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No, no, it doesn't.

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It doesn't.

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But when he gets down to saying, I think he's more like the Joker card, it could go either

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way.

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And then he's like, no, I know it's like that.

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You're like, that's because you think now it's going the way against you.

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That's why you think it can go either way.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's almost paying lip service to support as opposed to the way it was before.

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When he was starting to come on board with Trump, there was lip service to the negative

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stuff as he was acclimating to being a full throated supporter.

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I'm starting to like him.

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He's saying a lot of the right things now.

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He's still mobbed up.

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I know he's still got all that stuff going on, but you know what?

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He's being the mouthpiece for the type of people that we don't hear from.

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Yeah.

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It almost feels like the inverse of that.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, you know, also yesterday on Wednesday there was a democratic debate, uh, another

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one.

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Yep.

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He did it this time.

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Alex does not have much coverage of this.

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Uh, he complains about Joe Biden being disappointing and point taken.

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Sure.

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Um, no argument here.

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I can't pronounce Klobuchar.

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Okay.

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That doesn't surprise me.

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I don't know.

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How many different ways are we?

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Uh, I'm trying to remember what an, Oh, he said that she's having a grand mall seizure

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on stage.

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So that's good.

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All right.

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Oh, because of the shaking moment.

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Yeah.

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Great guys.

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So, um, there's not a whole lot.

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I was trying to remember if there was any other like actual substantive critic criticisms

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and there's not, this is really a, I would say one of the main takeaways of the debate.

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Okay.

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I promise.

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I'll play the clips.

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Okay.

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Let's just start going to them right now.

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Let's go to some of these debate clips last night because this, this really was the, the,

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the wheels exploding, not just coming off and just a manifestation of, of, uh, bizarreness.

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But there was, there was a little ray of sunshine there.

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Tulsi Gabbard talks about Hillary Clinton.

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So let's, uh, go to that club.

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Alex continues his trend of being very pro Tulsi.

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I don't, I don't mean to be making a huge point of this if Alex didn't make a huge point

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of it.

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I don't know if it necessarily means anything.

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The only thing that I find interesting is like a lot of the people that I find to be

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wildly distrustable and who are people who claim to be in the center or I'm actually

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a liberal, like Tim pool or Sargon of Akkad.

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Like those people who I find to be very right wing and full of shit.

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They're also big fans of Tulsi.

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That's the only thing that I find interesting about this.

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There seems to be a uniformity in people I don't trust, thinking that she's the best

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democratic candidate, which I don't know why that's the case, but whatever.

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I keep trying, I keep going through different scenarios in my, here's my, here's the one

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that I'm, I'm riding with right now.

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Somebody somewhere knows something about Tulsi and they're in this circle or whatever and

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they're using that knowledge to convince these people who are, and then it just becomes a

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right wing talking point.

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I think, I don't know if it's that.

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I think, I think you could take even the first part of that out and just be like, well, this

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would fuck with people.

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Yeah, that's probably fair.

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And it becomes, it could just be trolling with yang gang.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's just a, it's just a way of like sowing dissension by a bolstering a candidate in

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a race that you don't care about.

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I don't know.

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It's just, it's just weird to me how that's very consistent.

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Yeah.

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I bet it's her specifically, but also Andrew yang.

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The two of them are both like really bolstered by those same sorts.

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Yeah.

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Um, the Tim pool, Sargon, Dave Rubin, uh, ask types.

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Um, and I don't, I don't know what it is, but it does.

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I don't trust it.

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No, absolutely not.

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So I don't trust Gabbert either.

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I don't trust Alex.

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Um, he, he's complaining here at the beat before this next clip, he's complaining a

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bit about like people saying he's making stuff up in order to shake your confidence.

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Like people are accusing him of making things up because they don't want you to have confidence

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in the things Alex is saying.

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I thought it was cause he was making them up.

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That's my point.

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Okay.

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That's my position.

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Okay.

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But he does, this clip isn't about that.

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It's about what a metaphor that he makes about what these people are trying to do by shaking

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your confidence.

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Okay.

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Put your mic down for this cause you're going to have a tough time tracking this and something

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he says at the end is one of the more shocking things I've heard on this podcast.

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They go, do you really believe it?

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Are you making it up?

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Are you an actor?

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Cause you do a show and say something like that.

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I go, yeah, they call things shows, but I mean I'm covering real things here, but they,

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they like want to shake up your confidence.

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Like they're not believing in you.

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Like do you really exist?

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You know, did that really ever happen?

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It'd be, here's an analogy.

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It'd be like if you caught somebody cheating with your wife and then they go, Oh no, he

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couldn't cheat with your wife.

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He's gay.

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And then the gay guys been married twice and has four children.

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That's true story somebody I know, Oh no, no, no, no, no one's, no one's cheating with

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your wife.

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He's gay.

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Yeah.

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The gay guys.

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I know back in college and high school got more Poon Tang than a toilet seat to load

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of crap in almost all cases.

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What the fuck is he saying like at the end that I feel, and he does not elaborate on

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what he means by that any further, I believe that a reading of that, that would be possible

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is that he thinks that most gay people are faking it.

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I think that's the only way to read that.

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I think he's saying that gay people only exist in order to lie about your wife cheating on

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you.

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So much for that libertarian streak of his live and let live, no you gays are just faking

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it.

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You're liars.

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Wow.

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And that's another one of those stories, we keep getting so many more of these stories

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that happened to a friend that you're like, you know a lot of details about this.

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It is very specific, it's hyper specific, but I'm not interested in speculating about

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the reality or non-reality of that hypothetical allegory.

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I am interested in his position that like the people that I knew who were gay in high

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school were having sex with women, therefore most of the time gay people are faking it.

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Right.

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They're full of crap.

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No, I understand that.

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That's so fucked up.

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So he can't actually believe, he- This is nuts.

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I could think of very few things that are more bigoted because it's invalidating of

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the very existence of gay people, more or less.

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It's attributing- Nah, you're a liar.

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It's attributing the bulk of homosexuality that exists to deceit.

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Yeah.

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So then what's- I've heard very few things on his show that are as confusing and troubling

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as that.

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But he's also saying that there are some exceptions, which I don't even know what that would mean

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in his conception.

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I don't either.

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You know, like who is the exception?

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When do you- what's the- see, because now I'm just like, what's the fucking line for

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him?

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Because if he's making this argument, then what he is saying is that sexuality is fluid,

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I guess.

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Right.

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In some way.

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That's interesting.

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Then also that means that there's got to be a line for him of what's actual gay and what's

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not actually gay.

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Right.

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What is that line?

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I don't know.

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What that line introduces is the question of how could he possibly interact with people

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of differing sexual orientations if he thinks that they're lying.

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If the majority of them are lying.

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Yeah.

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Your default position has to be, oh, you said you're gay?

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Well, you're lying to me.

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How could you have a gay male employee at Infowars if you believe this, if you're not

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thinking that he's just trying to sleep with all the women through subterfuge or something?

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How could you possibly have a healthy interaction with anybody while you harbor these sorts

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of beliefs?

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And the way he so flippantly throws it in when it is absolutely not germane or necessary.

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You could make this sort of allegory or this analogy that he's making, like, A, someone

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pretends to be gay in order to get out of being accused of cheating with your wife.

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That's a specific person.

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That's an action.

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That's not a community of... It's not like a bunch of guys get together all the time

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and they're like, all right, okay, you pretend to be gay this week and so on.

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It's universalizing something that- It's awful behavior.

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So that's fucked up.

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And that also... See, that's just such a shitty place to live.

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That points to a worldview where if somebody just said, oh, hey, I'm gay and you'd be like,

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your first reaction is prove it.

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That's an awful way to live your life.

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Well, it also probably leads you to think things like conversion therapy are probably

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good.

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Yeah, of course.

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He's just confused.

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He's just lying.

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He's just being rebellious.

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So that's pretty bad.

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That's fucked up.

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Yeah.

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That's fucked.

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I want to make this clip a little bit lighter.

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Alex is complaining about how everybody got mad at him for speculating about Hillary Clinton's

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health.

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Right.

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I don't really care too much about that because what he says afterwards, far more interesting.

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Don't show that.

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Don't look there.

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No.

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Joe Biden's fine.

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They're all fine.

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We're fine here.

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Everything's fine here.

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Fine.

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We're sending up a squad.

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No, no, no, no.

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Major reactor leak.

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Very dangerous.

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I got a slip of cheesy star Wars analogy, because I don't think we're like star Wars

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like to make fun of star Wars, but I do like the emperor.

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He's very funny.

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It's a good actor and then some of the Darth Vader stuff's good, but most of it's super

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cheesy back then.

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And even more cheesy.

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Now I don't really like star Wars to talk about it all the fucking time.

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Most of my shows start with the Imperial March.

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I do think that the emperor is funny.

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The emperor is funny.

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What laugh lines does the emperor have?

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There was that one scene where he slips on a banana peel.

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Hilarious.

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Oh man.

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I think the emperor is hilarious too.

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You know?

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Wow.

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I mean, for something that he professes to not like, it takes up a lot of his head space.

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Man, I am racking-

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Next episode, he's going to be like, I don't even like Dune.

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Racking my brain for any moment where the emperor did anything that could be conceived

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of as funny.

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I think if you think evil is funny.

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I guess, what parts with Darth Vader are fun for him?

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It's got to be when he's choking people, right?

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That's the only thing that Alex can like about Darth Vader.

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If he's like, some parts of Darth Vader are cool.

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I like the coldness of-

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Yeah.

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What?

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I don't know.

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What are you talking about?

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Yeah.

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The thing that I liked most about Star Wars is the villains-

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Yeah.

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But actually, he has to.

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Of course he does.

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No shit.

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Of course he does.

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God damn it.

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How does-

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You would really think that for him, based on his entire career, the rebels would be

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the people that he identified with, the people who are up against the large empire.

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You would think that these are the scrappy people who have the side of the force with

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them.

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Of course.

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You would think that this is a one-to-one parallel.

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It's really obvious.

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He loves the emperor.

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It is really obvious.

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He loves Darth Vader.

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It is really obvious which side he should be on.

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And which side he actually is on.

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God damn it.

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That's why he hangs out with people like Steve Pacenik who want to install dictators and

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shit.

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Jesus.

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Yeah.

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He doesn't realize it.

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I don't know how much he realizes it.

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It could entirely be just like a subconscious drive that he has towards this, but it does

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feel interesting.

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You have little peaks like that, like pretending to not like Star Wars and then be like, yeah,

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I like those characters that are the ones that are polar opposites of what I pretend

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is my stated worldview and my entire career.

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That's such a weird thing to say.

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It's not that weird though.

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It would have been weird three years ago if we'd heard that.

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Oh yeah.

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But now it's not that weird.

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I can hear that and be like, yep, that checks out.

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Of course you do.

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Of course.

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You want to be the guy who does a radio show for Darth Vader.

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Yeah, exactly.

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That's what you want to do.

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That's your career aspiration.

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So unfortunately Trump is not Darth Vader.

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Right.

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He's more like Greg Proops in Attack of the Clones.

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When Alex, when Alex has had this, um, I'm going to go bullhorn Trump, but I'm not protesting

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Trump.

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Just give him a strong message.

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Um, you know, maybe he's the joker card that could go either way, right?

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These are things that you would not see in the past.

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You would not see this from Alex when he was gung ho full on Trump supporting.

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And this next clip almost made me gasp because this to me is like a sign that things are

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really not good.

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They knew 40 years ago when they came out with the cell phones that it was giving people

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brain cancer.

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Well now they're just up in the power and you know, Trump, big problem with Trump still

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love Trump.

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But you know, he said vaccines hurt Baron.

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He said he wanted to look at it.

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Now he doesn't do that because Bill Gates said he told him there's never been a problem

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with vaccine.

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Mr. President.

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That's a hoax.

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Even though the insert says it can kill you without Trump says during

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my visit yesterday, the new Mac pro and discussion of the new billion dollar campus.

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Also in Texas, I asked him cook to see if he could get Apple involved in building five

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G in the U S he got Mike Tyson on the show vision and cook cook.

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The guy that said, we're going to take all the conservatives off the air and curate them.

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So again, yeah, glad it's not Hillary, but boy, Trump is becoming more and more like

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the establishment.

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Wow.

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I, I think that there is a special place for people.

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He does mocking impressions of, and it's not the people he likes.

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If you get into mocking impression territory, I don't think there's coming back from that.

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That is something that would never have happened on the show.

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That's crazy.

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I cannot believe like, uh, there, I don't know.

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I feel like he might've done impressions of him in the past, but usually it's like strong.

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Yeah.

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But I don't even think it's an impression at that point.

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It's more like just, uh, embodying what he thinks his personality is supposed to be.

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Yeah.

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Not like, um, yeah.

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That's even almost like a weird Reagan vibe to it.

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There is like, you don't do a fucking mocking impression of somebody if like you're trying

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to support them.

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Yeah, no, this is, this to me is like, yeah, this is happening.

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Yeah.

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Cause this is, this is a slow deescalation of the boil or whatever.

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He's trying to bring it back down to room temperature.

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Yeah.

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The crack in the armor for, for people who adore strong men is once you can mock them,

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then they are not very strong now, are they?

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And especially when the way you're mocking them is into intending to evoke ideas of weakness

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in the listener, adding, uh, adding that little effeminate kind of list to, to the, to everything.

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Yep.

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So there are those signals that he's clearly trying to send and I think that we're just

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going to see this proceed unless of course Trump comes out of nowhere.

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Martin's Roger Stone says that Alex has got to get back on Facebook and then, uh, then

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Alex will be like, Oh, thank you, daddy until he gets everything that he wants failing that.

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I think we're going to see this trend continue.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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And the other trend we're going to see continue is Alex have disappointing guests.

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This next clip made me laugh so hard.

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Our guests famously also was in a vape shop and back in front of it and on his first one

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that stood up to him.

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But okay.

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Famously.

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Famously.

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In a vape shop.

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We've got, we've got famous once he was in a vape shop guy in studio, in studio today.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Oh boy.

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So Alex has a, as his guest, this guy who, uh, I think his Twitter handle is vape shop

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Patriot, um, because he videotaped himself getting yelled at at a vape shop for wearing

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a MAGA hat.

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Right.

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Right.

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And that went viral.

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And so he's cool.

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Wow.

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Here's Alex playing a little clip of, uh, uh, this, uh, guy going to the vape shop and

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getting yelled at.

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He's a racist.

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Stop it.

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There.

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I don't know who bleeped this, but why would you bleep some of the S words and stuff, but

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not all of them.

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We get that all the time.

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I don't think we're doing that.

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This is like a joke online where this happens is happening all the time now, whatever, whatever.

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Alex is pissed off about the bleeping.

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It's so funny.

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He's mad at other people's errors.

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I'm just mad at editors.

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I don't think we did this.

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I don't think we have anybody.

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Why didn't someone check it?

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I was really hoping to be angry at my staff about this.

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You're running a radio show.

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You can't swear on the air.

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Like why didn't somebody look at this before you played it?

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That's ridiculous.

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So the rest of this episode is just a bizarre round table with the guy who's yelled at at

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a vape shop, who is apparently a cell phone tower installer or something.

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Also the health ranger, Mike Adams is there and a supposed 5g expert named Mark Steele

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is in this round table.

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All right, so we're dealing with luminaries in their fields, respectively speaking.

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It's all just insane paranoid rambling about 5g.

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And I have almost zero interest in trying to chase down the little references Alex makes

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to mainline studies and UN white papers.

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Who cares?

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You know, you'll be specific.

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I'm not going to listen.

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However, it should be pointed out that back in February, Mark Steele was on project Camelot

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talking about the dangers of 5g.

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So the overlap of Alex and Carrie's experts, it's expanded.

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Also in looking into this a little, I found a blog run by another 5g skeptic called any

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logical.

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The author is clear that they're worried about 5g so their criticism doesn't come from a

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place of trying to label Mark Steele's concerns as just outright paranoia.

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Apparently though, after Mark made some public declarations about there being 5g transmitters

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and lampposts in Gateshead, which is actually something that comes up in his conversation

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with Alex.

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One of the main reasons that he's considered an expert is he found this 5g transmission

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from these lampposts.

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They're like, oh, they're secretly doing it.

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So after he came out with this, he was apparently contacted by experts associated with the bio

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electromagnetic research initiative.

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Another group that's concerned about 5g.

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They wanted to come in and test the areas Mark claimed to have tested, but with very

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high end technology so they could strengthen his findings.

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Oh no, we don't need, we don't need a, we don't need that.

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I've already proven it.

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I've already proven it 100%.

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We don't need your technology.

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According to this blog, Mark got very mad at them and accused them of being quote charlatan.

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Exactly.

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You're a bunch of charlatans.

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You're the ones who are liars.

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The group ended up going to Gateshead anyway and tested all the locations Mark allegedly

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tested and said, quote, we could not find 5g signals coming from street lighting in

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any location we surveyed.

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I'm not sure how much stock to put into this blog though, since it kind of spirals out

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into conspiracy territory.

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But I bring this up because it puts things in perspective a little bit.

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Even within the community of people who are worried about 5g, Mark Steele is not necessarily

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a trusted voice.

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If Alex were actually interested in covering 5g concerns and had any kind of decent reputation

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for being on the level, he could easily get some kind of actual experts on the show to

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discuss it.

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Instead, he has his friend, Mike, a guy who got yelled at in a vape shop and a former

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Camelot guest.

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He's also a Patriot.

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Don't forget, it's a Patriot who got yelled at in a vape shop.

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This guest selection speaks volumes.

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I don't, I don't care at all for this entire hour of nonsense about 5g boiling you.

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We were going to scrape the bottom of the barrel, but it turns out it had a hole in

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it.

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So we've got a guy from a vape shop.

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So come on in.

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What's your name?

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Don't care.

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You're a vape shop guy.

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Next.

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So naturally they have a conversation that goes on about this 5g and how it's an attack

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on you and it's going to kill everybody.

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And of course it ends exactly how you would expect it to.

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And these are great products at m4store.com.

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There's other great products out there as well, folks, but I'm telling you, this is

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what we come from, the earth.

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It's what God gave us.

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The drug companies are trying to mimic this with their own poisonous versions of all this.

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God gave us this information and, and I'm telling you, it's very antioxidants, dietary

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supplements can literally help protect your body from the toxic effects of 5g radiation.

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There you go.

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There's absolutely no doubt.

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I mean, they admit that.

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So like, yeah, of course it's an hour long thing to make you afraid of all this 5g stuff

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with a guy who was in a vape shop and a possibly a ludicrous expert from the UK.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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And of course it leads to, Hey, you know, these are real dangerous things, but the things

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I sell can protect you from all of those dangers.

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It is amazing how the solution was right there in front of us the whole time.

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Because I need to buy another fucking armored vehicle to get more PR.

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Well, hold on.

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You only need one armored vehicle.

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We're going to billboards next, Dan.

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This is so stupid.

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This is bad.

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I just, I, I, I, I find his show incredibly uninspiring at the present day.

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Like I just do.

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I, I'm interested in this trend that you see away from Trump and the way that that dynamic

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is playing out.

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But so much of the content of the show is either like really, really disgusting baiting

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about all his enemies being blood drinking, child kidnappers, and then just some things

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that are kind of interesting, like, uh, I mean the 5g stuff is a little interesting,

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but more or less like who gives a shit, we've talked about a lot of it already.

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I would just not even cover it at all if it weren't for stuff like his theory that most

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gay people are faking.

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Yeah.

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That's wild.

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That's interesting.

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I think what's fascinating is that I, I think in himself, his thoughts are very interesting.

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Like it, whatever internal struggle he's having right now is a fascinating thing because I,

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I genuinely can't imagine what, what creations both sides of his, his brain are fighting

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each other with.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like the, the side of him that is now anti-Trump is creating weird conspiracy theories to make

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sense of why he would be anti-Trump while the side that's pro-Trump is making weird

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conspiracy theories against that.

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And all of this is happening inside of his head and what's coming out on his show is

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boring bullshit.

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Yeah.

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Bring it into the open man.

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Well, I think, I think that there is a lot going on in the real world that he doesn't

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really want to address.

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Oh, it's scary and bad for him.

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There's um, you know, Trump isn't coming in to save Roger.

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Nope.

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Trump is getting impeached.

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Um, he's got, uh, that Sandy Hook lawsuit is upcoming.

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Oh yeah.

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You can't wiggle out of it.

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There's no way around it.

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The democratic debates, sure.

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There are some things that are real bad, but a lot of criticism from the left is coming

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for those things too in a much more robust, real way.

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Like there, there's, there's internal criticism within the, um, the democratic side that is

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probably more scathing towards Joe Biden than Alex can even possibly be.

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I don't think, I don't think the right wing has anything on the, on the rest of us when

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it comes to hating Joe Biden.

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No.

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And, and so I don't think that Alex wants to address any of that stuff.

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But as he has this like, well, Trump isn't going to save us realization settling in because

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of him going to hang out with Tim Cook because he didn't pardon Roger Stone because Alex

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is still not on social media as that sets in, he's got to get away, but he also can't

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deal with the reality that you can't be like, well, Trump is getting impeached.

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He did try and sell out our foreign policy.

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He can't do that because that's substantive and that is like, so he's got to just spend

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most of his time doing his like tertiary conspiracy lying about being gay, done, called it.

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I won.

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I mean, there'll probably, that'll probably, that's actually, that's probably going to

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happen.

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Isn't it?

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Jesus.

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Based on the little pieces that we have on the board, I wouldn't be too surprised.

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Oh man.

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But yeah, so it's kind of disappointing in some ways because like a lot of the content

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ends up being some of this just broad conspiracy shit.

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Like the 5G stuff is like, we've talked about some of the concerns of where the narratives

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fall apart in the past and I don't want to spend a ton of time doing it again.

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There's those sorts of conspiracies.

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There's the conspiracies about blood drinking demon globalists and I don't want to talk

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about that because it's gross and toxic.

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So there's not a ton here that's worth covering.

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At the same time, the real world, like if we didn't cover his show as all of this stuff

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is happening, people would think that he had interesting things to say.

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Exactly.

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We have to cover and make sure you know, the listener, Alex is boring.

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He's not doing much.

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That is, there's everything, fucking Bolivia, Hong Kong, Bolsonaro murdered a guy, fucking

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Netanyahu is getting indicted.

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We've got Brexit still going down.

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The election, the debate between Corbyn and Johnson, all of this shit is going on Dan.

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Yeah.

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He's one of that.

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I mean, he does say that the Hong Kong protesters are good, but that's mostly because he hates

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China.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Less about real concerns.

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Yeah, that one's not hard.

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That one's not hard.

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No.

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So yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know what to tell you.

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This show stinks and I'm excited though because I think I've done my due diligence in terms

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of like taking this last stretch to really focus on how Alex gets through the present

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day with the Rogers situation and now with Trump coming to Austin, I think we're just

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going to see a gradual slide away.

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He has let us down.

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He's the joker card that has gone the wrong way, but we must still rise to the occasion

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and fight the globalists.

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I think that's probably the direction things are heading and I'm going back to the past

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for Monday.

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I'm going back to 2013.

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I almost want to listen to that little stretch we had where it was that slide into loving

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Trump and see you.

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Well, I think that was a lot of episodes.

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I don't know.

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I mean, not the, not that like, not the entire thing, but like when, when it happened.

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Yeah.

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You know, that day where it went from being this gentle side to, as I recall, the first

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thing that was like, well, Trump is the real deal or I have been fooled.

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That is exactly it.

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Yeah.

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So that dichotomy still stands.

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You have been fooled.

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Yup.

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Yup.

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I don't know.

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So we'll see what happens, but, uh, we'll be back on Monday, like I said, with the past.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And that's one of the reasons that these episodes are shorter, like this is only an hour and

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10 or so because there's not much going on.

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This is like, I'm not, I don't know.

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I feel like I would love to talk more about stuff, but there's just got nothing.

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I mean, Dan, you know, a lot of shows are only an hour all the time.

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Like they'll do an hour once a week.

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Yeah.

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I don't want to, I don't want to, I know you feel like you're letting down everybody because

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we only put out five hours this week or whatever.

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Disappointing.

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No, I'm sorry.

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So, but we'll be back on Monday.

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Indeed.

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We will.

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Until then.

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I think we have a website and it's knowledgefight.com.

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Yup.

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We're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed.

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Jordan.

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We're also on Facebook.

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We are on Facebook.

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And if you'd like to download the show, please go to iTunes.

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Please share it with your friends, et cetera.

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Goodbye.

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That is correct.

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Yeah.

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Uh, we, uh, we're back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX Clark.

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I was once famously in a vape shop.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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So Alex, I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Thank you so much for being with us and we'll see you in the next one.