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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan?

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Mm-hmm.

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Dan?

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What?

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What was the last wild animal you saw?

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Last wild animal, I saw, I mean like a bird?

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No, no, you know what I mean.

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Birds are wild.

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I get that they're wild, they're far out.

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What, like in a zoo?

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No, no, no, I mean like in the forest.

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Like when was the last time you-

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What was the last time I was in a forest?

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I don't know, you grew up in Missouri, you probably saw bobcats all the time.

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I lived in Chicago for ten years.

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Yeah?

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Well, we have some bobcats, right?

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One night I was at a comedy show, back when I was doing standup, and I was down on Fullerton and, I don't know what the cross street was, but ways west on Fullerton.

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Not super far west, but a little ways west on Fullerton.

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And I was smoking a cigarette, pretty drunk, after the show, and what should I see walking down the street but a wolf?

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What?

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Swear to God, just saw a wolf walking down the street, like casually, just walking along the street.

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It turns out like that isn't super uncommon.

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Really?

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There are some like wolves and coyotes, you'll see, from what I understand, I've talked to some people who have also seen similar things.

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Also, I wasn't alone, this can be confirmed.

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Okay.

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It was not a dog, it was a wolf walking down Fullerton.

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Well, you're preemptively getting all the tweets about people being like, that was probably a dog you saw.

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Yeah, I just, I'm already defensive about my wolf sighting.

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Other than that, I mean, I guess-

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I think seeing a wolf in Chicago is a bad-ass wild animal story.

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Urban wolf?

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Right, urban wolf?

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Yeah.

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Wasn't John Voight in that?

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Yeah, I think so.

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The other one that sticks out in my head was much longer ago, as long as I was a kid, like camping, I saw a moose.

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You saw a moose?

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Well, everyone freaked the fuck out for this moose.

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They're huge!

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Yeah, we had to run and get in our, like, minivan, because my parents were scared of what the moose could do.

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And up to that point, all my associations with moose were, like, Bullwinkle.

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Right.

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And so, like, I didn't think that a moose was a threat.

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Yeah.

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And as an adult, I realized, like, they could fuck you up.

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They could really fuck you up.

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Yeah.

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So I'm glad we got in the van.

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But it was neat to see it from, like, pretty close in the relative safety of a car.

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Yeah.

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Like, a moose is a pretty cool animal.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Also, I've been thinking lately about getting an exotic pet.

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Either that or just quitting his podcast and becoming a park ranger.

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One of the two.

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Just an iguana?

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Just walking around with one of the iguanas on your shoulder?

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No, I'm realizing how much I like plants and animals.

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As I get older in life, I kind of am realizing, like, I really like animals.

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I really like plants.

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Maybe I should be around them more.

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I think you just really hate this place.

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I think so.

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You'll go anywhere right now.

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Yeah, and that actually is probably something we should bring up.

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Yeah.

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Because I try and keep my personal life kind of personal to an extent.

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You know, like, I don't like to complain on this show when it's not about Alex or people who are lying for a living.

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Right, right, right.

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But as everyone who listens to the show knows, I had to move in April.

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I moved into a new apartment and almost immediately it became a bit of a nightmare.

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Yeah.

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For the last three months, I have had incredibly disturbed sleep because of this place.

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The neighbors have been incredibly loud.

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The guy upstairs from me, just like my place shakes when he walks around.

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It's very difficult.

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And so I am moving again.

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That's the long and short of it.

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Thank God.

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Yeah.

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It is time to get you out of here.

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Towards the end of this month, I am going to have to move again.

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And I hope that there won't be any disruption in terms of the podcast.

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I think it might go a little smoother than last time, possibly.

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Although it is the potential to be way rougher.

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Yeah, true.

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Things could go very wrong and we will see.

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But in the next couple of weeks, there might be some interruptions to the show.

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There might be some disruption of service.

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Possibly, hopefully not, but possibly just to give you a little warning in advance.

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Yeah.

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But it's crucial because I have to get out of here.

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Oh no, you've been sleeping like three hours every week.

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It's disgusting.

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Some days it's almost nothing.

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Yeah.

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And it's almost a miracle I've been able to keep doing this show, quite frankly.

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No, seriously.

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I have been waiting for you to murder me.

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Yeah.

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There have been days when I'm running on fumes.

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There have been days when it's just incredibly insane, the various noise pollution aspects

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of this place.

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Oh yeah.

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And various other things that are no good.

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But hopefully it will be on the up and up soon.

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So, sorry if we miss some episodes coming up, but I also am not sorry.

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Yeah.

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I mean, at the end of the day, you know.

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Yeah.

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You gotta get the fuck out of here.

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That is true.

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And one of the things about this is too that it's difficult because I am not well off.

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Right.

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And so as these things happen here, there's expenses and it's a challenge.

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And I really can't stress enough how much I appreciate the support of the people who

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like this show and donate and keep me able to find a place where I won't go crazy.

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Yeah.

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And so in honor of that, let us take a moment to pray.

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No.

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Let's bow our heads.

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It's time to pray.

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It's time to pray.

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And we gotta say thank you to some people who have signed up and are supporting the

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show.

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Oh, that'd be great.

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We appreciate it very much.

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So first of all, Nick, thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Nick.

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The Nick faction in our leadership is growing more modern one new member next.

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Caroline.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Caroline.

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Sweet.

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No.

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Sorry.

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Bad.

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Next, Chris.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Chris.

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Thanks, Chris.

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Next, Herga Blerg.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you.

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Herga Blerg.

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Thank you so much.

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We appreciate it very much.

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So, Morgan, thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey, mate.

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That's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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All right.

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We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?

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Let's just get down to business.

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We ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why are you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large.

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I declare info war on you.

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Thank you so much, Morgan.

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Yes.

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Thank you very much, Morgan.

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And finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on an even more elevated

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level, and they were so generous, and we had some really nice conversations, and I really

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appreciate their support and being cool.

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So, Sam T., thank you so much.

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You are now a raptor princess.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Bow bow bow bow bow.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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Black accent.

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He's a loser little, little titty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people.

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I renounce Jesus Christ.

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I know how to read.

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I am out of control.

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I've never really seen a lot of white racism in my life.

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I really haven't.

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I bet you money there are few living black people that have been abused by white people

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as much as I have been abused by black people.

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Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, both those guys were complete badasses.

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Complete studs.

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I'm cutting off the part where he does the Bernie Sanders impression at the end.

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Yeah, I don't like that anymore.

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No, I don't like it either.

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Thank you so much, Sam.

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We really appreciate it and thank you.

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Yeah.

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Keep saying thank you.

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Thank you very much, Sam.

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That's what I feel.

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We would appreciate it.

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Please do.

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Our next guest today is we've got July 7th and 8th, 2019.

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All right.

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I wanted to check in on the present day and I felt that the audience would not let us

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off the hook if we didn't because of big breaking news in the world, particularly the arrest

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of Jeffrey Epstein.

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Right, right, right, right.

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I am not particularly interested in covering that because I believe that there are media

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outlets that can do that much more precisely, much better than I can.

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Mm-hmm.

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I'm not particularly interested in covering Alex's version of it.

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One of the main reasons is because all he does is talk about how Trump never hung out

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with him and Jeffrey Epstein was just friends with the Clintons.

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I don't care to respond to that because then it becomes this game of like, no, Trump did

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hang out with him.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I feel like that minimizes the severity and seriousness of this situation.

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I honestly think that as good of research as we sometimes can do and I think that a

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situation like this is a little bit beyond my pay grade and I don't trust that we could

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cover it with the respect it deserves.

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Yeah, I would say that's a good way of putting it.

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Also not covering it means my obscenity quota is going to be way lower.

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Quotient.

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It's quotient.

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Yeah.

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Oh, I couldn't find the word.

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So one of the things that's actually kind of interesting is that Alex really doesn't

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cover it that much.

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I dipped in here on Sunday, the seventh was Sunday, and I expected it to be wall to wall.

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The Clintons going down and really, I did.

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Oh, okay.

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Because it's such a big piece of his world view and his narratives that I thought for

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sure it would just be nothing but Epstein talk.

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Yeah.

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And I was shocked to find there's not much.

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He doesn't talk too much about that situation.

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He declares victory and claims that Trump's not involved.

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He declares victory.

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Yeah, I apologize.

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I should have expected him to declare victory.

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So Alex is mostly, here's how I would describe it.

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Alex is definitely affected by this news and he's operating off of it, but it's not a primary

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story for him.

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Right.

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He's drawn to other things and a lot of it has to do with like, Trump is great.

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We're so great.

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Sure.

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This is all great.

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Sure.

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And I think it leads him to make a little bit of a, you know that moment in a Bond movie

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where the villain says something a little bit too much?

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Oh, are we doing the speech?

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Are we giving the monologue whenever Bond is on the chopping block about ready to die

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and Alex gives up the whole game?

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I think that this might have shades of that to it.

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This here's our first clip from July 7th.

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I'll say this, and it's not to get heat off my back.

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This is to give everybody really good news.

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We have successfully radicalized the president of the United States.

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CNN's right when they say it's the enforced presidency.

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We have successfully radicalized the Pentagon.

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We have successfully radicalized the CIA.

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I'm not trying to brag.

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It just happened.

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We did it.

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We just did it.

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Matt Drudge amplifying the other shows.

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All of you did it.

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So I mean, whenever you have protestations from Alex about like, we aren't some sort

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of radicalizing force, it's difficult to hear stuff like that and be like, well, I think

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you kind of are and you know it.

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You literally know what you're doing.

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You think it's good, but you know what you're doing.

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When people make accusations that what you're doing, you're doing this and it's bad, the

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only thing you can really dispute is that you don't agree that it's bad.

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You can't disagree that you're radicalizing the president.

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You just fucking said it.

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Whether or not that's true is another matter.

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Whether or not this isn't braggadocio.

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Right, right, right.

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Well, you know, the word that people usually put after radicalized is a terrorist.

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Usually that's how people do that.

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So he's kind of saying like, we turned the president into a terrorist and he's not a

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wrong for Americana.

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Yeah.

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No, that's still bad.

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Well, see, Alex has a justification for this.

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Terrorism is good.

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Wow.

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He has a rationale that is, I guess, basically, you know, sort of radicalization version of

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like rubber and glue, chicken and egg, something.

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I don't know how to mix this metaphor correctly, but here he goes.

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GOP or ISIS?

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And to be clear, the globalists are radicals.

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They want open borders, world government.

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They want to break up the family.

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They want a technocracy, a worldwide police state, Islamic invasions, all of this.

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And you can only defeat something that radical by admitting it's radical and taking radical

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measures against it.

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So you justify radicalizing the president and the Pentagon and the CIA and your entire

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audience by your imagined enemies being super radical.

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Yeah, I have imagined them to be the worst fucking thing in the world.

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Therefore, if I'm the second worst thing in the world, that's better than them.

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This doesn't work.

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This is really bad.

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This is incredibly terrible thinking.

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If you accept this line of thinking, like it rationalizes pretty much anything you could

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possibly think of doing.

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Yeah, especially when your justification for it is entirely imaginary.

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Right.

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You know, like there's no, unless your, unless your imagination is completely limited to

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a certain point, that basically means you have carte blanche to do whatever you want

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any time, whenever.

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As long as you can come up with some flimsy rationalization for why the person you're

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doing this because of is somehow worse, that's all you have to do.

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And then, uh, okay, let's bomb shit because the people we're doing this to stop are terrible.

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Absolutely.

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So that's, that's like, Hey, uh, we, of course we have to commit the Holocaust because the

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Jews were going to kill 6 million and one of us, Dan, we won.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you know, it's, it's like, there's no, there's no bottom.

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Yeah.

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I mean, he does believe that the globalists, uh, orchestrated both sides of world war two.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Okay.

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So why not?

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Because if you were to do a world war against the globalists, you wouldn't be as bad as

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the globalist.

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Right.

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Right.

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Because they did their own world war together.

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Yeah.

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So I mean, no matter the car, I mean, there were nukes involved in that too.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, like if, so if you nuked the globalists, I wouldn't be uncalled for.

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No, they already nuked people first.

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Um, so in this next clip, we get Alex clearly indicating that he still believes that Antifa,

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uh, is out there throwing concrete milkshakes of people hasn't dropped that narrative.

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No, no, no, no.

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Of course not.

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Well, you got to keep pounding that one.

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Otherwise, otherwise people will forget that you're supposed to shoot anyone with a milkshake

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on site.

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Right.

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This takes up a good portion of his coverage is, is trying to, uh, because the enemy is

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so radical, we radicalize people and it's a good thing.

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Right.

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Right.

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You must then demonstrate why these people that they're against are super radical.

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And so he talks about Antifa being so terrible out there, their own concrete milkshakes.

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So many people have died at those rallies, right?

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Like, um, so, uh, but it's interesting because you know, Antifa gets out of control.

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They do all this shit.

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And then the police do nothing about it.

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And Alex knows why they come out and they have people that they've been looking at who

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they're planning to target and they go out and they physically attack you and the police

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stand there and watch it happen because the police are being blackmailed, the police being

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blackmailed.

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Remember, not this year, but last year we got 30 plus pages of secret documents from

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an Antifa member's brother and his family member had ended up having major medical issues

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and things like that.

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It ended up going away for a while.

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And so he was able to get into his apartment and get these documents that he was a leader

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of Antifa and it was Alexander Soros funding it real documents, and it was in Maryland

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and other cities, an action plan.

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And one level is you're an actor and you've got liaisons in the, in the blue city police

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department of the newsstands you're going to attack because they're conservative Washington

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insider or Washington times.

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Now this makes perfect sense so far.

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Those are the fake fucking contracts he found online that he's using as justification for

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his like, first of all, I don't understand how that means the police are being blackmailed.

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No, they're being blackmailed.

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He doesn't really explicitly lay out with that, uh, how that relates.

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No, they had 30 pages of documents and now the police are being blackmailed.

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I don't understand what the, again, these documents are fucking fake.

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Uh, no one would dignify them with a response.

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I don't think it's in anyone's best interests to deny that these are real.

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That's engaging.

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That's getting mixed up in the tentacles of this bullshit.

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Right.

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And you can't do that.

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And the police know that.

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And so does Antifa.

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And that's why Antifa is blackmailing the police with the information that they can't

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comment on.

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Well, I hadn't considered that.

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Fucking stupid.

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It's incredibly stupid.

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So insanely dumb.

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Like just the idea that there would be contracts is stupid.

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Like if you're doing some sort of a criminal enterprise like this, like cause the idea

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is you're supposed to trigger riots.

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Like that is what these fake documents are for in Alex's narrative of it.

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The idea that some legit corporation tied to Alexander Soros would drop fucking contracts

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that would somehow be binding by an NDA is so stupid.

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It's so stupid.

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You have to be like so detached from reality.

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You have to be so far gone to imagine that anyone would do that.

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Oh yeah.

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You would just do it without a contract.

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Jesus.

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You know when people like have mules and like drug runners and stuff like that?

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Yeah, yeah.

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They all have contracts.

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They sign a lease.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Because they're leasing their own rectal cavities out, so you gotta get that under contract.

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There are contracts because if something goes wrong, that drug dealer's gotta pay workman's

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comp.

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Absolutely.

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You know, there are regulations.

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And think about the unemployment insurance there, you know?

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You know, you sign a contract when you're a rioter, you're an acting rioter who knocks

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over conservative newsstands, because if you do your job and then Soros doesn't pay up,

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you need documentation.

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Absolutely.

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So you could take him to court.

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Of course.

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To get your pay.

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How stupid is this?

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Think about, no, but see, think about how efficient that system is though.

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You're in, you're already in court for the criminal trial for you doing all the crimes.

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You just go across the hallway to the civil court to sue them for the back pay.

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It's just, it's killing two birds with one stone.

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And you gotta consider about how this works two directions too, because if you're Alexander

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Soros, and you hire some people to start a riot, and they don't start a riot-

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Bullshit.

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Right, but if you don't have a contract-

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You gotta call the cops.

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You can't do shit.

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You can't do shit.

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You can't go break their kneecaps or something like that.

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You need a contract for it to be enforceable that they did not deliver on the work that

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you had contracted.

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See, now, hold on, you can go break their kneecaps, but you gotta hire somebody to do

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it for you.

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And the only contract that you're gonna draw up there is twice as complicated as if you

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just convince those people to commit the riot in the first place.

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This all grows out of anti-communist bullshit, so I assume there's probably some unearthed

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narrative Alex needs to make about how, they only did the contracts because there's union

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fees or something like that.

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I have to assume that's coming at some point.

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This is so fucking stupid, I hate this shit.

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Whenever I hear this stuff, I'm just like, oh God.

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I imagined a person listening to this and be like, well, they didn't end up denying

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those documents, so they must be real.

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I can't imagine how hopeless you must be, how far gone you are from reality.

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Oh yeah.

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And Alex capitalizes on it, he profits off it.

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You would be so far gone from reality, somebody would make you President of the United States.

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It's crazy.

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So Alex is mad at Antifa.

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Right, right, right.

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Which is cool.

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They built their airports too long ago.

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He's also got another complaint about Antifa that I actually think is pretty funny.

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It falls squarely under that heading of, can't use a bullhorn well.

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This is another complaint he has.

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We have one of the Antifa from three different angles, goes on for like 10 minutes, can't

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light a flag with a match.

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He doesn't even know how to use matches and tries to figure that out.

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He didn't even know how to cut his hand over the flag, strike it, and then get it going

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that way.

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Or that he should douse it in lighter fluid before he came out there, like when I burn

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you in flags.

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Ever seen me burn one?

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Man, they go up real nice with one lighter.

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Bring a lighter if you're going to burn an American flag on July 4th.

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What are we doing here?

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What are we doing?

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I mean, hey, he knows how to burn a flag.

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Give him credit.

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Credit where credit's due.

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Is this how we trick conservatives into burning American flags, is we're just incompetent

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at it in front of them and they're like, for God's sakes, let me do it for you.

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It triggers that masculine thing where you have to help someone light a grill.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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You have to help someone light a grill.

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Credit where credit's due again though, Alex follows this up by being like, they have every

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right to burn a flag.

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You wouldn't expect that to be his position.

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He has to though.

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This one, he has to.

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But it's crazy.

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He's a flag burner.

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He's a hypocrite on so many levels, but I do give him credit for explicitly saying that

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there isn't anything wrong with them burning the flag.

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I think it's disgusting.

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I think it's repulsive.

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I disagree with it, but they have every right to do it.

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He does sort of imply that they're just trying to trigger people into fighting them.

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But that I think is a defensible position to have.

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If you believe that lighting the flag on fire is trying to bait someone into a fight, you

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could make that argument.

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I mean, I suppose.

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It's implying intentions on somebody that maybe they don't have, but it's certainly

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much better than it should be illegal.

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Yeah.

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So, cool.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I'll give him a little credit for that.

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And if he's that good at burning flags, because it really sounds like he knows exactly what

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he's doing.

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Bull horns, flag burnings, Alex is your guy for those.

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It is interesting to know exactly what things he really excels at, because reading the news

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is not good.

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Drinking whiskey and clear liquors, because he likes Tito's from time to time.

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Flag burning, bullhorning.

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What else?

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Not spending time with his kids.

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He seems to be good at that.

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Not checking into who he's talking to.

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Seems to be real good at that.

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And that comes into play-

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Emasculating Rex.

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Not checking into his guests thing comes into play as we get to the 8th on Monday.

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Because while he does bring up Epstein a little bit here and there, it's in his standard deflectionary

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way for the most part.

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Or he uses it just as a launch off point to talk about how everyone that he is against

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are demonic pedophiles.

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Right, of course.

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Of course.

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There's not really all that much to the actual meat of that story, which is why I feel no

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compunction about us not really talking about it.

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Alex is mostly interested in someone else on his July 8th episode.

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It's a British guy who's an asshole.

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And he's going to be making a major announcement.

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The freedom fighter over in the UK has been imprisoned three times.

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Oh, please don't.

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In solitary confinement, lost 40 pounds.

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Please don't.

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It should have pointed out it's Tommy Robinson.

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Please don't.

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Just stop, Alex.

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Been tortured.

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The premises have thrown bleach on his face in the prison and he's marked for death.

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They've told him next time they're going to kill him.

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He's been ordered to show up in court next Thursday and they're told he's going to be

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put in solitary confinement for up to a year.

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The crime, he exposed giant child kidnapping, sex rings with children being killed and then

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chopped up into kebab meat and fed to people on the streets of London and other cities.

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That sounds like a big story.

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He says it's mainstream news.

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That's a big story.

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Yeah, it would be.

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That would be everywhere.

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It would be a huge story.

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And it was.

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Yeah.

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It was.

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So this is an amazing display of sloppiness on Alex's part.

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This is legitimately almost impressive how bad a job he's doing here.

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The story he's talking about is that of Charlene Downs, who was a 14-year-old in the UK who

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went missing in 2003.

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By 2006, the police began operating off the assumption that she was most likely dead and

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started investigating the case that way, though a body has never been found.

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Investigators believe that Charlene was known to engage in sex acts in an alley behind a

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row of businesses in the town she's from.

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And the owner of one of these businesses, Eid Al-Batiqi, was arrested for her murder

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with salacious accusations flying around that there's no body because they put her into

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the kebab meat.

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That's what they sold at their fast food stand.

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Oh, so it's racist as shit.

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We'll see.

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Mohamed Ravishi was also arrested on charges of helping dispose of the body.

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In 2007, both men were acquitted because there was no evidence that any of this was true.

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While Charlene did appear to be dead, and everyone sort of took that as the absolute

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conclusion, and that shop that he ran was near a place where she was known to frequent,

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but the rest of this shit is just gossip and tabloid-level shit.

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Right, right, right, right.

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In 2008, Eid and Mohamed were both awarded $250,000 by the police in compensation for

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the damage that the botched investigation did to their lives.

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Because of rumors like this, they raped this young girl and put her into kebab meat.

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Yeah, I imagine that his restaurant didn't flourish after that.

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I would think it probably had a little bit of difficulty.

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There's more to this case than is publicly known, even right now in 2019.

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But what is safe to assume is that the story of Charlene being killed and served as kebab

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meat is not true.

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And Alex has every reason to know that.

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In 2019, Channel 5 made a documentary called The Murder of Charlene Downs that brings up

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some really troubling details about the case that were not known previously.

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For instance, the documentary reveals that about a week into the police investigation

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of Charlene's disappearance, they decided that if they did find her, they would not

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return her to her parents, but instead place her in child protective custody.

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One of the main reasons for that was that on the day Charlene went missing, her parents

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had invited a pedophile into their home who her dad had met while drinking at a pub.

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The maker of the documentary uncovered a social service report regarding an incident between

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Charlene and this guy her dad invited to stay with them on the day she went missing.

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But there aren't a ton of details about the nature of that incident, so I'm not entirely

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sure exactly what happened.

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Holy fucking shit.

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And this wasn't the first instance of the parents allowing abusers into their home.

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The Times reported in 2013 that a 40-year-old family friend had admitted to authorities

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that he had paid her to perform sex acts on him, and at least 16 men with criminal convictions

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for rape, assault, or violence had been visitors in their home.

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There were tons of warning signs that she was living in a very unsafe household.

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Obviously, I don't know the details of the case, and there are probably few living people

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who do know exactly what happened.

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What I can say is that just a very small amount of research would have demonstrated to Alex

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that the she was murdered and put into kebab story is bogus, irresponsible, was refuted

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in a court of law, and is only still repeated by anti-Islam agitators who don't care about

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the truth.

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They don't care about what really happened to victims.

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They only care about using the appearances of these instances to demonize their scapegoat

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population.

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And that's what Tommy Robinson has been doing for years.

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One of the main groups that has kept the kebab narrative alive, far past the point where

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any self-respecting person would have accepted, you know, that it was bullshit, was the EDL,

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the English Defense League, which Tommy Robinson founded.

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Of course.

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They are deeply responsible for this not being kicked to the dustbin of history as just...

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Well, the issue is that they're not making it up out of whole cloth.

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Right.

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The kebab part of it was based on, I can't remember the guy's name, but it was based

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on a guy who was like a contractor who said that he overheard Eid and Mohammed talking

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about it like we killed her and put her in the kebab, whatever.

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Right.

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But subsequent investigations have found that he is a unreliable source of information.

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There's nothing that confirms this or in any way lends it credibility, and they uncovered

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some disgruntled business relation between him and the guys who ran this really fast

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food restaurant.

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So he had...

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Motherfucker.

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There were some indications that he would have a reason to create salacious rumors about

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them based on bad prior working relations.

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God damn it.

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So the EDL takes that and insists that it must be true as opposed to being like, well,

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there's nothing really to back this up.

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There's a lot of other information that looks pretty fucked up about this case.

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Maybe we shouldn't use this as a banner thing to rally around.

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Seems like all we're doing is being racist as shit.

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That does seem like all they were doing was being racist as shit.

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That's kind of because that is what they were doing.

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Okay, so what they were doing was being racist as shit, and that's why it looked like what

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they were doing was being racist as shit.

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And it's a real fucking tragedy because the reality of this situation seems to be a really

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terrifying case of child neglect and abuse.

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And instead of dealing with it on the merits and on the information that is available,

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you just move the guilt over to the party that you want to blame, and it's disrespectful

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to victims.

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It's disrespectful to people who care, and that's the name of the game for Tommy Robinson

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and the EDL.

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They don't care.

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They do not care.

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They're co-opting victims.

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They do.

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They care.

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They care about being cruel to whomever they want, and they'll do whatever it is they need

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to to get there.

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They'll use any justification.

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They'll make shit up.

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They will fucking do anything.

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And under the radar, under the surface, the cruelty towards people in the Muslim community,

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let's say, that's very overt and very visible.

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But just underneath that is a cruelty to people who are survivors of abuse because they're

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co-opting and using their actual victimhood in order to demonize the larger Muslim population,

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and that's cruel too.

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That's fucking insanely cruel.

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Because if you spent any of the time, effort, and resources that you have put towards demonizing

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Muslims towards helping victims of abuse like this, maybe you'd keep a few people from getting

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abused instead of actively hurting people along with diverting any attention to what

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really could be fixed.

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Right.

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And homophobic and ethnic-based demagoguery is not the solution to the problems of crimes

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against children.

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Anything.

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Right.

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It is not the solution to anything other than a Jeopardy question for what Trump is doing.

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But yet it seems to be all Tommy Robinson does.

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It does.

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So fuck him.

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Uh-huh.

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So I guess there's one clip of stuff about Epstein that I'll play, and it's just because

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like this is insane.

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Like the idea that Alex is repeating this is insane.

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Trump's been to one party Epstein was at, and he told Roger Stone, he said, I pull up,

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and you're like, isn't it nice?

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You let all the neighborhood kids swim here.

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And they looked around, and he ran out of the house.

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I don't particularly care to be like, hey, categorically, that's not true.

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Let's look at the other instance.

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Yeah.

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I don't care.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You don't have to be like, Alex is just repeating shit Roger told him.

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Yeah.

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And that is not good.

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That is not a good source of information.

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He's not your friend.

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No.

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So in this next clip, Alex is spiraling out of control, talking about how the left are

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vampires.

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Are we vampires again?

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Apparently.

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Okay.

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But the left says, we're putting them in cages.

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We're torturing them.

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We're the Nazis.

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You are.

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And the truth is, they want that fresh meat.

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They want that fresh blood.

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They want unidentified children, so they can snuff film them, torture them, and drink their

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blood.

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Now watch.

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It's all coming out.

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You're going to see it.

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They drain children's blood.

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They drink children's blood.

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That's just the blood libel.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's interesting that he's like, they say that we put them in cages and we're Nazis.

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Now let me mirror a big piece of Nazi propaganda against Jews.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Hey, dude.

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Calm down.

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I just think, I hate some of this stuff because it's important.

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It's really insane, the level of stupidity that's on display here, around very serious

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things.

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Yeah.

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It's irresponsible.

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It's detestable.

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It leads people into insane stupidity and dumb fucking beliefs that are counterproductive.

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But it's also boring to me.

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It's really insanely boring.

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And a lot of this is stuff we've covered already.

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I would love for this to be an opportunity for us to do a deconstruction of the historical

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roots of the blood libel, but we did it already.

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Right.

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You know?

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Isn't it ridiculous how far it's gotten?

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Because we're listening to this and we're like, uh, this is kind of old hat.

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He is literally saying that people are drinking fucking blood and he's lying about somebody

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eating a fucking child.

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And all of this, and we're like, get over it.

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Oh, oh, oh, you're just going out in public to a large audience lying in an insane way

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and they believe you and we're over it.

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I mean, it is one of the things that by degrees, I think we've become so desensitized to stuff

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that it's like, I think most right thinking people could hear almost any of the clips

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that we play and be like, fuck it, this dude is crazy.

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Yeah.

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Of course.

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Of course.

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It is.

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And we're like, no, it makes a twisted sense if you understand white nationalism and propaganda.

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Oh, it doesn't make a twisted sense.

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It's like, well, here's what he's talking about.

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Here's the roots of it.

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Here's why he's saying what he's saying.

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It doesn't make it make sense or good.

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It exists in a context.

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Yeah.

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But it also is, is just blah.

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Yeah.

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I had somebody ask me recently.

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They were like, oh, so, so you guys don't allow Alex to speak his full piece.

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You know, you cut them out of context and that kind of stuff.

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Sure.

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And I was like, you need to, okay.

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We can't even begin to describe how much context we have given this man.

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I can't even begin to describe every way guiding principles.

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When I started this exactly.

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I was bummed out by how a lot of people don't take him in context because context makes

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him worse.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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We are damning him far more than you can imagine.

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Yeah.

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So not only do liberals drink blood.

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We do.

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They also want to, well, it's particularly liberal women.

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Oh, oh.

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They would like to see beautiful things destroyed.

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You see liberal satanic women.

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Sure.

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They like to see pretty women killed and they like to see little boys killed.

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That's why the average leftist mother puts their child on Prozac, Ritalin, and they end

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up trying to institutionalize their boys.

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It's a satanic demon that, that, that Moonchowzen by proxy, a lot of them wants to hurt that

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little boy.

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It's almost like he's talking about an Egregor.

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It's almost like he watched something about Munchowzen by proxy recently.

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Baron Munchowzen by proxy?

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I think so.

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I just think this is insane.

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Anyway, here's a more shit talk about the liberal left.

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So all of you leftist listening, you wonder why you have empty, cursed lives.

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You come from cursed bloodlines, big people, and you, you think if you get rid of the good,

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you'll suddenly be on top.

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No, you'll just be even more in the dark.

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There's a something to this that deserves a slight unpacking, I think in as much as,

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you know, leftists come from cursed bloodlines.

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Yeah.

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It seems like so much of his distinction of who is and is not a leftist comes down to

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issues of race.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There's so much of the SJW stuff as being like an attack on whites in Alex's world.

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It's very difficult to hear him whenever you talk about blood.

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It just, you, you range, you, you, you go far too close to stuff that look, if you start,

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if you say you come from cursed bloodlines, you're a Nazi.

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Full stop.

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Done.

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Unless that's it.

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Unless it's like a sci-fi novel or something like that in a, in another reality.

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Right.

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Right.

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Unless you're a space Nazi.

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I apologize.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The full stop.

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If you, that sentence is him saying, I am admitting I'm a Nazi.

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I really think whenever you talk about bloodlines at all, like you're, you're in trouble.

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Yeah.

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You're going to be past a point where it's like, are you going to say something good?

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Right.

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Right.

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Cause you're not.

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Right.

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I'm not positive I've ever heard bloodlines discussed.

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Like here's, here's the benign context.

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Here's the best I can think of for a benign bloodline thing.

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Oh yeah.

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In my family's history, our, our bloodline has shown a very patrician nose is a common

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archetype of art.

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I'm not positive that's even good.

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Oh shit.

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No.

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Now it sounds like I was talking about Jews.

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Yeah.

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I don't know if you can do this.

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No, I didn't mean that.

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I meant it in a Greek sense.

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Oh boy.

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Oh now I'm talking about, Oh God, Nope.

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Actually there is no way to say bloodline without being racist.

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I feel like it's, it's territory.

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I'm not positive anyone can really navigate well.

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I'm out.

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I already dropped out of that marathon.

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So in this next clip, Alex, you know, you got a lot of, you got a lot of things working

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against him.

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You know, you got the world, the world government, you got the leftist Antifa out there.

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You got all the Muslims eating human kebabs.

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Right.

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Ooh.

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Human kebab does sound like a pretty good band name, band name though.

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No, it doesn't.

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Fair.

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But in this next clip, we find out he has another enemy and that is half of all world

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churches.

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I'd say half the churches, whether they're Catholic or Protestant are, are chaired by

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a devout Satanist who carries out satanic rituals daily.

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You know, these churches, you can feel it boy, these big mega churches are chaired by

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devils.

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So I mean, I don't, I don't know how to look at this other than just like a direct extension

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of all of his like destroying and impugning any kind of, um, agreed upon reality.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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He gives you a sense of community that isn't connected to his crazy worldview must be attacked

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in some way.

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Any kind of a popular culture that we all share, like we could talk about the, uh, the,

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the bachelorette or whatever that is globalist programming.

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Oh shit.

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Well, I guess we won't talk about that.

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I like to go to my church where all my friends aren't.

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Sometimes we have like a cookout and uh, you know, they form a community around there.

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There's a devil running that church.

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Oh shit.

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Well, my whole support group is gone.

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Where am I going to turn?

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Well, I guess maybe I could get involved in local politics.

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Ah, globalist run it.

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It's agenda 21.

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Damn it.

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Listening to you, Alex has been great for me.

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Yeah.

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There is nothing that doesn't just like every single thing about his rhetoric and his worldview

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leads you to isolate from everything except things that are tacitly or explicitly approved

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by Alex, which are almost exclusively bigotry related, uh, militia.

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I think he likes the movie independence day.

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So Will Smith is probably cool in his, in his book, right?

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A fucking chance.

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Welcome to earth.

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Come on.

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That was a great moment.

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I would say he probably thinks he's a globalist.

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Probably.

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Uh, maybe I, Alex would probably say that he's a vampire of some sort.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Is he a Scientologist though?

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I don't know.

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I remember all the rumors, but it never interested me all that much.

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I never really looked into it.

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Um, so in this next clip, you know, like there are fucking devils running half of the world's

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churches.

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Yeah.

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Satanism is everywhere as evidenced by this next clip.

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And also pay attention.

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When Alex starts talking about the Louvre, uh, listen to how his voice lilts so fucking

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condescending.

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Okay.

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This is amazing.

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And it's all in your face.

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The UN building was pledged to Lucifer in New York city, go to the chapel and read on

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the wall says this building is dedicated to Lucifer.

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The light breaker.

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The Louvre was dedicated to Lucifer by Francois Mitterrand when they opened the new pink pyramid

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with 666 pieces of glass.

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This is a satanic revolution we're facing.

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So the, uh, the 666 pieces of glass is where that real fucking condescending tone came

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out.

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Yep.

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Which is not true.

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Oh, look at him doing a thing that he didn't do.

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And I'm just telling you, he did.

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Right.

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He could just remember a few base facts that he read on a conspiracy site that aren't true.

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Um, so the UN building isn't dedicated to Lucifer.

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One room in the building includes a sculpture that was provided by funding from the Lucius

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trust.

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Now I should come clean and say that the Lucius trust, uh, it grew out of a company called

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the Lucifer publishing company, but they only kept that name for a couple of years.

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And that was like 20 years before the UN was even founded.

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Sure, sure.

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The people behind the Lucius trust were theosophists back in the early 1900s.

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And as such, they had a bit of a new agey approach towards spiritualism.

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The name Lucifer publishing company was likely chosen because of the light bringing connotation

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of Lucifer within this theosophist circles at the time.

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And the name Lucius trust was chosen as a replacement because it contains the Latin

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root word, meaning light, and doesn't evoke images of the devil in people, which allowed

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them to keep the enlightening meaning of their name and avoid people thinking they worship

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the literal Christian devil.

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Yeah, they probably thought they were doing such a good job at first.

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They were like, we're going to be Lucifer and we're going to do it because Lucifer is

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all about the light bringer.

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And then two years later, they're like, oh, right.

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People are really stupid.

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Yep.

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Unfortunately they were wrong about changing their name.

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Uh, people still like Alex think that they worship the literal Christian devil.

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Yeah, they really regret that.

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Either way, even if they did, the UN building isn't dedicated to Lucifer.

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This shit about the Louvre is just made up to and completely inaccurate.

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Alex is just doing a modern day satanic panic here in order to justify being radical against

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his enemies.

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All this just serves that exact same, uh, uh, function.

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It's just, it's just a justification of radicalization.

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That's all this is.

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And a destruction of any kind of art period.

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Just like, just like, it's the Louvre, you're going to go to the Louvre.

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Yeah.

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Go to the Louvre.

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You're just going to be fucking walking into Satan house.

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Yeah.

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No, it's wall to wall artwork.

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It's beautiful.

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Don't you, he, he loves the Renaissance, right?

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It's a devilry.

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Oh, fair enough.

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So in this next clip, Alex talks about how Trump is the good guy at the border and AOC

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sucks.

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And then he, I think he does a little bit of a racist voice.

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I'll let you decide.

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Okay.

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Trump tries to get more funding so we can find out who these kids are and the media

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and AOC, that demon drug addict, crip keeper.

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She goes, they're drinking out of toilets, being mean to them, these racers, KKK, because

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their bosses are saying, you break that border.

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You get us those kids we're paying top dollar because they need the satanic power.

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They believe to overthrow America to the child's sacrifice reportedly is off the charts right

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now.

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They're killing kids every five minutes, torture them, pulling their guts out, having them

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beg for mommy.

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They got their engines turned up on full.

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What are we going to do about it?

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I mean, what are you going to do about it?

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I think the answer is pretty fucking clear.

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If you actually believe any of that dumb bullshit, they're like the people who are against Trump

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are killing kids every five minutes and torturing them in order to gain spiritual demonic power

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in order to overthrow the United States.

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Like he is so close to Stephen Kelly, the guy who wants to storm the Getty Museum because

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the Satanist alien base underneath it.

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He is saying the same shit.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's because it's true.

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Alex Jones has entered the territory of the creepiest, scariest dude who I've ever seen

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on Project Camelot.

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Alex has now reached the point of being like really fucking close to a guy who I've watched

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a bunch of his videos and I'm like, we can't cover this.

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It's not funny.

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Right.

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It's creepy as hell.

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Scary.

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Yeah.

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Jesus.

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I mean, guys, just lean into it.

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You want to, you want to torture children at the border in order to disincentivize people

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to come here.

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Just say it.

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We don't need to bother with all this.

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They're trying to become demons and you, you're the bad guys.

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You think you're doing it in service of a larger good, I guess, but just admit that

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you're evil here.

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Now, I'll admit.

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This is bad.

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This is an objectively bad thing that they are doing.

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I agree.

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And they know it.

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I agree with you there.

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But I will admit that I don't know everything about the universe and should Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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go down to the border and then sprout demon wings.

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Right.

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I'm willing to amend my position.

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I agree.

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I agree.

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Now.

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Barring major developments in the case.

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Right.

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I believe I will stick with my interpretation.

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Stay tuned to this space.

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We will keep you updated on whether or not Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez becomes a demon.

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AOC watch.

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Is she a demon yet?

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Still no.

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Okay.

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We'll check in in another couple hours.

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Also racist or not racist?

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Oh, that's so racist.

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Thank you.

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But I don't know.

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I couldn't hear quite to whom it was being racist.

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It felt like it drifted a little into Tuscany.

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Yeah.

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It was a little Italian.

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Yeah.

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I don't think he's very good at his.

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But also I felt some breakfast at Tiffany's there too.

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Interesting.

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It was very, it was a very racist accent.

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It was clunky and offensive.

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Yeah.

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That should be on his family crest.

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So he gets into the second hour here on the 8th and what Alex does is he decides he's

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just going to hand over the show to Tommy Robinson.

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No.

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Because Tommy has something big going on.

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Isn't he in jail yet?

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Well, he will be soon.

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Thank God.

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So Tommy Robinson is going to have the floor for the rest of this hour.

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All intro and outro.

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We're going to break in seven minutes.

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He sent us a special report video.

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He just compiled.

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He's about to premiere here and this is going to be his request to the president.

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Well, I'll just let him say it himself.

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Tommy, you're a hero to so many and absolutely don't want to see you disappear as they're

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planning.

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I know you first just want to give the basic facts to the president who probably have five

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minutes to just watch this.

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I know we can get it to him and then obviously you're going to give a report to his staff

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who can look into the case and see that it's just as bad as stuff that happens in Cuba

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or other authoritarian states and that you and your family absolutely need political

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emergency asylum.

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I have the U S code right here.

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We'll go over towards the end of the hour, but you have the floor, my friend.

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And so thank you for joining us.

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So Tommy Robinson gets an hour on Alex's program to beg the president of the United

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States for asylum, which is funny.

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So here in this next clip, Tommy just sort of begins his case and I have some thoughts.

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My name is Tommy Robinson.

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It's not.

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It's Steven Yaxley-Lennon.

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Today I'm calling on the help of Donald Trump, his administration and the Republican Party

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to grant me and my family political asylum in the United States of America.

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I'm sat here today before you to make my case of political persecution.

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Go fuck yourself.

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We aren't going to listen to Tommy Robinson.

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I'm sorry, Steven Yaxley-Lennon and his dumb sob story here because he can fuck right off.

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And I have exactly zero interest in even engaging with his particular brand of bullshit.

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He's made a career of xenophobia, nativist agitating, lying about very serious issues

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and overall just being a criminal shithead.

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And there's nothing in his pattern behavior that would lead you to think that any of his

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actions are carried out in good faith ever.

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For some level of context, last July on a radio show called Leading Britain's Conversation,

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even Nigel Farage tried to explain to Steve Bannon who had expressed support for Tommy

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that, quote, everybody hates Tommy Robinson and even Nigel Farage said Tommy did break

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the law.

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Yeah.

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There's something incredibly hilarious in this plan that he's launching here though.

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For years, Tommy has made tons of money by demonizing people who have fled mortal danger

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in their home countries to seek refugee status in the EU or in the United States.

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And now that he's facing a little bit of jail time for his clearly illegal actions, he's

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begging the President of the United States to intervene and grant him the very same refugee

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status that he is mocked as being sincere in the case of Muslims and non-white peoples

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in the United Kingdom.

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Man, you know what that reminds me of?

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All of these people?

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That reminds me of people who are like, free speech, First Amendment rights, no regulation.

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And then those happen to them and they're like, why isn't the President regulating things

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for me?

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Right.

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Fuck off.

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That is something you see really regularly.

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Over and over again.

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So as for why Tommy is going to prison, he deserves it and I feel no sympathy for him.

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The Queen's Court determined that, quote, if the court were to condone the live broadcast

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of these defendants being aggressively confronted as they arrive for court in conjunction with

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prejudicial commentary and exhortations to engage in harassment, it would pose a risk

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to the wider interests of the justice system.

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Which makes sense.

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Yeah.

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When they said that he was encouraging harassment, the court was on pretty solid footing, pointing

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to a part in the live stream where Tommy says, quote, harass him, find him, go knock on his

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door, follow him, see where he works, see what he's doing.

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Yeah, I was going to joke that, like my first joke was going to be like, hey, go harass

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those people because, yeah, that's a very obvious way of saying what it is they're accusing

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him of.

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I thought that would be a facetious joke.

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I thought that would be over the top, Dan.

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It would be too on the nose and it turns out it is dead on correct.

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Don't believe that Tommy brings up this part of his commentary when defending himself.

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So fucking stupid.

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What Tommy did was not journalism.

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It was a legitimate breach of the justice system and a call to vigilantism.

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Even beyond that, his actions worked against his stated goal.

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He pretends that he was there to cover Muslims who were in grooming gangs, somehow imagining

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that his live stream would help the prosecution, I guess.

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Without his help, the man on trial was sentenced to 12 years in prison.

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But because of Tommy's interference, that man was almost able to appeal his conviction

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on the grounds that Tommy's live stream and the ensuing protests surrounding it had biased

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the jury in his case.

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What Tommy is doing is a legitimate and sincere threat, not only to the larger Muslim community

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in the United Kingdom, but also to prosecutors who are trying to deal with the very issue

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Tommy professes to care so much about.

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Like legitimately.

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He endangered the prosecution of that case.

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He brought a camera into the courtroom, which is explicitly not allowed, primarily because

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you can use the footage you captured for intimidation purposes.

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You know, to encourage the harassment of people like judges or juries or council members.

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There is a very good reason to not allow cameras in court and Tommy knowingly broke that law

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because of his overwhelming need for attention and his pathological hatred of Muslims.

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He received a suspended sentence for that.

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So he would only be punished in any way if he reoffended while still under that suspended

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sentence.

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And reoffend he did.

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He was given every chance not to be in the situation he's in now.

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The UK courts tried to save him from himself, as we saw with the Lion of London Bridge case

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as well.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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I have zero sympathy for him being held responsible for his actions.

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No, and he's so this is one of those situations where, you know, when you're when you're talking

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about prison reform, you know, is it about rehabilitation?

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Yeah.

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Is it about punishment, retribution?

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Like what is what is the purpose behind the prison?

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Yeah.

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And in his case, I feel like prison is the wrong place for him.

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I agree.

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What he needs is exile.

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I take him out of the deport him.

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I don't revoke his UK citizenship status.

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I don't know how that would help necessarily.

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I think it would probably lead to him using that as his next narrative.

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Of course.

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But like, yeah, I mean, I was as I was listening to this and sort of thinking about it, I was

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reflecting on it.

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Like, yeah, I don't love incarceration generally.

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I don't I don't know what the right answer is for a punishment for something like this.

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Yeah.

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I don't know how you deal with someone like him, especially someone who has a decade,

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decade and a half long career as a street agitator.

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Like with the EDL and like brawling based political activity.

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The the the the career of xenophobia and agitation.

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I do not think that he would be receptive to any kind of rehabilitative intervention.

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Absolutely not.

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So does that how does that square with my feeling that I don't think that people generally

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should be in prison?

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Right.

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I guess the only real.

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Punishment for these guys would be removing their ability to like their platform should

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be completely, you know, like like with Jim Baker, Jim Baker spent his entire career scamming

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people out of money.

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Right.

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And then he went to jail.

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And then when he got out, he reformed himself and started scamming people out of money again.

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Right.

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But just with the lesson learned of where the line is.

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Exactly.

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It's like it's like the it's like the quote from Blow or whatever.

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I went in to jail with a and then I went out with a, you know, yeah.

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The scamming isn't a problem for most people.

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It's the fraud.

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It's the part where you actually committed a like out and out fraud that you send it

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sent to prison.

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But that's not even how Tommy would respond to this.

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Like he's not going to go in for whatever sentence he's going to get and come out with

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like, all right, I've learned where the line is.

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He's going to push it even farther whenever he gets out.

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Like well, when it gets out, if the no deal Brexit has gone through, maybe he will have

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a government that's willing to just say, do whatever you want.

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I don't have any real feeling about that, like other hours.

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I would love to see a overhaul of the incarceration state.

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I would love to see that.

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I'm not here to tell Britain that it needs to do that.

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Yeah.

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It's a sovereign country, they have their laws that operate however they operate.

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Yeah, the First Amendment.

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I would say that as long as the prison is where people like are sentenced to for what

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he did, I'm not going to go to bat for him on this.

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As long as he's not being held in like solitary confinement or being targeted specifically

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for violent attacks, I'm not going to cry a tear for his plight.

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I want him to be safe and warm and as far away from damage, as far away from the possibility

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for him to do damage as he can.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I would sum it up to say like, as long as he's not being like harmed, as long

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as he's not in solitary confinement, if he has to spend two years in prison and that's

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the only consequence for all the damage he's done in his career, he's getting off really

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easily.

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Really easily.

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And it just goes to show like this is the natural consequence for his intentional actions.

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And when the chickens come home to roost, what do you do?

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You beg Trump.

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And if there's one thing, if there's one thing, if anybody listens to this show and they take

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away one thing, it is do not ever give these guys even the slightest benefit of the doubt.

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If you're going to sue them, sue them and go all the way.

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Don't hum to Yulikaya and ask for a goddamn apology.

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Destroy these guys if you can.

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I really hate this.

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I hate this shit.

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And it's most of the show.

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It's legit most of the show.

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Well, it gave him a whole fucking hour.

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I had to fast forward through a good bit of it because it's just Tommy Robinson rambling

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on and misrepresenting his case.

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Yeah, which is completely different from what we're used to on Info Wars.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, I have much less patience for Tommy than I do for Alex, because at least

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Alex is the target of my interest.

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Yeah.

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You know, like, even if he's talking shit for an hour and it's boring, there might be

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something in there that's like, huh, that's an interesting thought.

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And it gives me a greater context to what Alex believes.

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I don't give a fuck what Tommy believes.

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Nope.

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There's nothing that he could say in the course of this hour that will interest me.

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Nope.

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He can say whatever he would like to behind bars.

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So Alex has a plan sort of to get around this.

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Sure.

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And here's what it is.

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Presidential party.

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Hell, if you get to the U.S., you can have a show right here.

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You know, we'll get you a work visa, I know, because of your prior convictions of the other

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fake stuff for journalism.

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It's even hard for you to get a visa to the U.S.

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Well, hell, the liberals do it is prior convictions weren't for journalism and they weren't fake.

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Are you sure?

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Yeah.

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There was that one time he assaulted a cop journalism, but his girlfriend who was with

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him had cocaine on her.

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Right.

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Right.

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Journalism.

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And he wanted to try it.

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I believe he got in trouble for having a fake passport and mortgage fraud.

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Yeah.

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Well, that was a story about how he wanted to commit mortgage fraud.

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He's a career fucking criminal.

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It's creative nonfiction.

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Right.

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All the times he's gotten arrested for brawling.

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Yeah.

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He is a...

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No, he's a giant piece of shit.

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Yeah.

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He really is uniform, like, uniformly, if you, any right thinking person would know

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that he's a piece of shit.

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And it's an easy way to tell if somebody is or is not right thinking is whether or not

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they think he is a piece of shit.

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Yeah.

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That's a pretty good sort of a good just general personality test.

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Yeah.

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It's like, you like Tyler Robinson?

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Yep.

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Gotta go.

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Gotta go.

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You believe that shit?

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Yeah.

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Gotta go.

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So I don't care at all that I can't stress this enough.

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I don't care.

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I don't care.

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Tyler Robinson deserves to go to prison.

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If by some way the police decide to give him another shot or whatever, the courts decide

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like, all right, we're going to give you another suspended sentence.

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I also don't care about that.

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I'm not invested in him going to prison.

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Like, I would love for him to stop being a shithead.

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Yeah.

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That's what I would like.

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I don't think prison's going to solve that problem.

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I don't think him not going to prison is going to solve that problem.

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He's going to be a problem no matter what.

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It doesn't matter.

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Like, he's a propagandist with bad faith, bad will.

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He just is a fucking dick.

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I wish he'd have Saul on the road to Tarsus-type moment where he realizes, oh, God, this whole

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career of mine, what have I brought into the world?

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I'm an asshole.

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Right.

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But he never will.

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So I don't care.

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When Alex is having him...

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I mean, I would certainly probably care a little bit if Trump ends up giving him political

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asylum.

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I don't think that's going to happen.

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I doubt it.

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But should that development happen, I think I would start to get a little bit more interested

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in this.

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Yeah.

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But for now, it's just...

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I don't give a shit.

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God, that would be wild.

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That would be...

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Do you know how ridiculous that would be?

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I mean, it's the international version of pardoning Arpaio.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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And it's...

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Like, really?

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It's an international incident waiting to happen.

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And even fucking Farage doesn't like Tommy Robinson.

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That's why Tommy Robinson could start getting more involved with UKIP once Farage started

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the Brexit party.

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The two of them are not in lockstep with each other, which is wild to think.

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The UK bigot community contains multitudes, even people who don't like each other.

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Well, it's like, you know, there are 15 different accents in London alone, you know?

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None of them get along.

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So I don't care.

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I don't care.

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Okay.

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Do you care, Dan?

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No.

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Okay.

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I don't give a shit.

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But it's interesting to me that Alex cares so much.

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Yeah, that is interesting.

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It's not really.

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I only am doing this to set up a clip.

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Alex cares so much that he allows Tommy to take over his show for an hour, but he doesn't

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care that much because he's got another guest coming up.

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The jury had to be discharged.

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Tommy, Tommy, here's what's happening.

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Here's what's happening.

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I've got Carpe Donctum on.

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This is incredibly important.

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You've still got 10 pages of evidence here ready.

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He's cutting them off because Carpe Donctum is coming on.

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Because who?

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I don't fucking know.

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Carpe Donctum?

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Carpe Donctum.

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Carpe Donctum.

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He's a guy who makes memes.

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I don't fucking know.

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Oh, no.

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Yeah.

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Oh, no.

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Yeah.

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So it's probably, it's a Latin phrase, isn't it?

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Well, I mean, it means seize the donk or something like that.

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I don't know.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Listen.

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Seize the donk.

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There are things in my life where I'm like, yeah, let me stay up till three in the morning

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researching Leo Zagami.

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How about Carpe Donctum?

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Couldn't care less.

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But he's a huge cat.

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He's kicking Tommy Robinson off his show because he's got Carpe Donctum.

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Here's what I know about Carpe Donctum.

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He makes memes.

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He apparently won an Infowars meme competition and Trump retweeted that meme.

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Whoa.

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So he's pretty much royalty.

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Yeah.

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In this world.

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In this world, he's pretty much won.

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In this world of shitheads.

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Yeah.

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And apparently, I don't know how much veracity there is to this, but because the world is

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so stupid, yeah, I'd believe anything.

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Surreal.

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Trump is holding like a free speech internet forum at the end of this week.

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Yeah.

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And Carpe Donctum is one of the people who he invited.

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Of course.

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To this social media free speech meeting of the minds.

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I don't care if that's true or not because the bigger issue is it makes so much sense

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it could be true.

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Yeah.

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And that's a world that we're living in.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This is the dumbest time.

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I sound like a broken record, but I don't care.

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What has he got to say?

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Not a lot.

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Does he have a new, does he have a meme to drop?

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Is this like when Kanye goes on a talk show, he's like, I got a new album to talk about?

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No.

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He doesn't have any follow up memes?

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He's not promoting anything.

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He also is apparently thinking about starting a website.

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I heard that and I'm like, why don't you have a fucking website already?

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That's insane.

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The president is, oh God, I want to die.

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Just kill us all.

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How bad are you at your fucking scam that you're running?

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Come on, Meteor.

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Every moment now.

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He has a Patreon too.

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Doesn't have many donators.

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What are we doing?

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I don't understand.

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I don't, I really am always surprised when I see people who are in this scam world who

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aren't doing a good job monetizing their scam.

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Yeah, I know.

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Like I don't understand if they're people who think that there's sincerity involved

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and like...

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I don't think they get that they're scamming.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I think it probably maybe comes down to ambivalence, maybe not knowing exactly the steps you're

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supposed to take, or maybe I'm just not looking in the right places.

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Maybe like a lot of that money is coming in somewhere else.

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Maybe he has a subscribe star account that has a ton more donors and I just looked at

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the Patreon and it doesn't have many.

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I don't know.

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Whatever the case is, who gives a shit?

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I don't care.

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I don't fucking care about a meme guy coming on Alex's show.

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Most of it is about Alex being like, hey, we didn't get invited to the social media

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thing.

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And look, we're not mad about it.

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We're not mad about it.

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We got fucking Carpe Dogdom.

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He's a friend of ours.

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He's going to be there.

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There's kind of a passive aggressive thing going on.

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It's not super extreme like it sometimes is with Alex's pettiness.

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It's not as overt pettiness.

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No, but it's still, you can feel it still.

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There is like a trying to make right the fact that they didn't get invited.

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It's, uh, whatever it is, it's fucking lame.

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And I, I don't, I sound like a fucking broken record, but I don't care at all.

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I don't care.

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I know.

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So he's talking to Carpe Dogdom.

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I don't even like you saying those words.

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I don't either.

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I don't, I don't care enough about him to know what his real name is.

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Don't give a shit.

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So he's talking to my man Donks and, uh, in the middle of that conversation, Alex brings

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back up Tommy Robinson's plight in order to make the situation seem so much more severe

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than it is.

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I mean, there's just, I mean, all my camera crew is so freaked out about the Tommy Robinson

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thing.

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We can all watch the video.

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He's outside politely asking people, the press is allowed to do that in the UK.

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So they are here and then they're putting him here and put him in prison.

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I mean, we're all in danger, brother.

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He has created a false version of what Tommy is getting in trouble for to present to the

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audience to make it appear that just because he dared point out Muslims are committing

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crimes and he politely asked about it, like a journalist does, uh, any of us could be,

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any of us now, any of us could be at risk of Carpe Dogdom.

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Yeah, it's insane.

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You are going to be so pissed off next year when you find out that in the late eighties

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he was a DJ in the Italian scene.

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I'm willing.

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I don't think he's old enough.

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His best friend was Leo Young.

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I, I don't think Carpe Dogdom is old enough, uh, to fit that mold and I just, I'll be more

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disappointed when, uh, Pence drops out and it's Trump Dogdom 2020.

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And I'll look the fool.

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God, I wish that that were far less believable.

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I wish that that were so out there.

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I could never, ever understand it.

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But I swear to God, if Donald Trump just chooses a meme as his running bait, not even, not

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even Carpe Dogdom himself, just one of the memes, he's just going to hold up a meme next

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to him while he's given speeches.

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I, I, yeah, that, that would make as much sense as any fucking thing else.

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Yeah, sure.

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So, uh, in this next clip, uh, uh, Alex talks, uh, and this is the last clip we have because

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he just talks to Carpe Dogdom more.

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I can't do it.

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Yeah.

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I, I, this just, I don't know how to set up this clip, but it just really confused me.

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Trump needs people like you on his staff to help produce memes for him directly that are

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from the president so they don't dare touch them and they have that, that Imperial glow

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to them that we need is you're a smart cookie and there's a lot of inside baseball we can't

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get into, but I agree with your analysis and the fact that the president said, obviously

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he wants to meet with you some more.

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And what that means is that Trump is preparing to kind of look at the army and, and figure

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out and talk to you guys about what should be done.

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There'll be breakaway meetings.

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Uh, and it'll also be a test to see who talks about what, who can meet, you know, who's

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an operative.

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Right.

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Trump's learned about infiltration.

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Yeah.

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So he's having these people come to the White House as if it's some sort of Willy Wonka

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ask, uh, let's find the snitch game.

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Yeah.

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That's fucking weird.

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What is happening?

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And then Alex is like, the military is going to be involved in breakaway meet.

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What are you talking about?

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This guy makes memes.

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So if I understand correctly, I think what he's saying to start with is that Trump is

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inviting these people in order to create some sort of ministry of propaganda, essentially.

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Right.

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Right.

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So that's why these people are coming here.

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That's taken as read.

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Of course.

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Now, in the middle of that, this is also a test of loyalty.

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Well, Slugworth will show up and ask you to make a globalist meme in the middle of it.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Because if you make the wrong meme, that's like fizzy lifting drink.

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Right.

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Well, and then a bunch of little mini Stephen Millers will show up and sing a song.

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Ooh, that would be somehow more racist than the already racist river.

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Yeah.

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A far more racist depiction.

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I cannot handle the present day.

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We live in the dumbest timeline.

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Yeah.

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You ever try and wrap your head around it?

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I've stopped.

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I've just decided I can't wrap my head around the world that we live in.

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No, man.

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It's that when the going turns weird, the weird turn pro at Hunter S. Thompson.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's like you just kind of got to lean into it, I guess.

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I suppose.

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Try and retain some semblance of sanity while also like, I mean, where are we?

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How far away from home are we without even realizing the steps we took away?

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Yeah.

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Like, it's crazy.

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Every time I walk outside, I hear that, but in the minor key, so it sounds fucking ominous

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like, every day.

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Every day I walk outside and hear that.

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So you're saying it's clown world?

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It's clown world, Dan.

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You know, that's an antisemitic meme.

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God damn it.

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What?

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What you're expressing.

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How is clown world an antisemitic meme?

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We talked about it on the show.

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Oh, yeah.

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Shit.

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But that's not fair.

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No, it's not.

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Everything is an antisemitic meme now.

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I mean, that's what, you know, fascists and authoritarians do generally.

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It's like Hitler co-opting the Svelstik.

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The Svelstik.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's part of how these things infect areas of life and co-opt them towards their side.

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The OK sign is another example of that.

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It's a strategy of mild psychological warfare, I guess.

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Yeah.

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God, I hate these people.

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So, I mean, we come to the end of this and, I mean, I think, I would assume that people

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listening probably felt this, but I've completely run out of steam.

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I've run out of interest in this bullshit.

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Not Alex, but, like, this present is much more like the present than maybe how much

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fun it was to look into Leo Zagami.

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Yeah.

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Like, this is indicative of the experience of this.

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Like, you go in and you kind of expect it's going to be awful, you know, because with

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Epstein getting arrested, you kind of think that there's going to be an awfulness to it.

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You kind of think you know what the version of awfulness it's going to be is and you suit

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up and you prepare, you're like, all right, I don't want to do this, but here we go.

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And what you find instead is largely Alex just retreading territory that we've covered

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100 times on this show, you know, we've covered the blood libel stuff, we've covered his dumb

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satanic panic nonsense, we've covered Tommy Robinson and his history.

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It's not, like, there isn't a whole lot.

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It's like climbing a rock and you just find, like, oh, there's nothing to grab here.

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Yeah.

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Oh, well.

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Yeah, we got to the top of the mountain and then it's like, so we just go back down?

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Is there something up here?

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Was there just the satisfaction of having done it?

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Boo.

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Yeah, ultimately.

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Oh, like a prize, please.

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Yeah, ultimately it's disappointing and, I mean, it's Alex's fault.

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It's not on you or me, this is him, he did this.

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Although this does seem to be something of a pattern for him is when there is something

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where you're like, oh, he's got to have, he's got to have some awful take on this thing.

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Yeah, and he does.

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He winds up, he does, but then at the same time it's almost like he punts a little bit

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where he's like, I'm barely going to talk about this.

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This is awful.

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I think actually everybody already knows what I'm going to say about this bullshit.

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Right.

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I think you do.

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Yeah.

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Of course.

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Yeah.

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It's like, eh, Trump's not involved.

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It's all Clinton's.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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But nail it, lock her up, let's call it a day and go home.

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Right.

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I mean, he's talked about it plenty in the past, Epstein stuff and the plane and the

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island and like, you know, that he doesn't need to cover it when it breaks.

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Right.

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Instead you use it as a jump off point for something else, which is demonizing your opponents,

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justifying the radicalization against them, and then parlaying that somehow into, we got

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to save Tommy Robinson from the consequences of his own actions.

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Yeah.

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Like I think that if you look at it, it really, it feels like Alex is more interested in using

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whatever current events type coverage he has in order to, I think he's more interested

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in funneling that towards Tommy.

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Yeah.

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Tommy is, he's more interested in that than, uh, than, uh, Epstein.

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But as the...

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Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, theory, theory, theory.

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All right.

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PJ Dubs technically is leaving maybe or has already left.

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Who knows?

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But when he does go, Alex is looking for a Tommy Robs to take over.

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No, cause he's already got Dan Lyman doing Europe wars.

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Oh really?

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Uh.

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So he already has that offshoot.

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Yeah, but I don't think Alex could afford Tommy.

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I don't know how desperate Tommy Robinson is, but I mean he's had, he's like, he worked

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for a rebel media, like he's, I think that he probably would need more than Alex can

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pay him.

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Yeah, that's probably true.

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And I think that if Tommy doesn't leave the UK, he's going to get arrested again.

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Uh, I don't think that's in Alex's best interests to have him as an employee because Tommy would

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constantly be asking for help.

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Well that's what Alex is saying.

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He wants Tommy to come to the States.

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Right.

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That's the whole idea.

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Oh, you don't mean someone in England, just someone who is British.

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Exactly.

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I think he could find someone else.

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Because I will tell you this right now, I guarantee that is how Alex thinks.

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He is like, I am losing a British person who talks like that.

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I need to replace him with another British person.

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I mean, sure.

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I guarantee it.

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I think that there are less baggage having people who have an accent that Alex could

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slot into that role.

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Right.

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Sure.

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Oh, what a, what a, what a coup that would be if he could swing peers.

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I know, I know, I'm a broken record.

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I just don't care.

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I, I, I care about the misinformation and the misrepresentation of stuff.

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I absolutely do.

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I care about the corrosive influence.

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Um, but this isn't very interesting.

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Alex is phoning it in, uh, quite a bit.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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I, it's, I resent it a little because it's a waste of my time.

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Yeah.

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There's much better uses of my time than the last couple of days of his show.

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It's been shit.

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So oh man.

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Anyway, um, until next time, uh, it's been our show, which, uh, you know, it is what

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it is.

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Um, we'll be back on Friday though with another episode, but until then we have a website.

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We do have a website.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Right.

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So we're also on Twitter.

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We are at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan are also on Facebook.

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We are.

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And if you wanted to download our podcast, which you should do, and you could probably

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tell somebody else, but you can go to iTunes, uh, you can go to a direct Libsyn feed.

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Um, you can, uh, there are corner bodegas that will, uh, charge you a $5 extra to get

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it, but they will give it to you under the table.

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I promise you that.

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So you can do that there.

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Um, nature hikes.

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Those are fun.

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So AOC, uh, still not a demon.

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Still not a demon.

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Oh, technically has not killed anybody.

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Oh, that's one guy who technically probably has is Alex Jones.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.