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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages,

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan!

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What's up?

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What is your, what bar game are you best at?

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What are you talking about?

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Do you know like pool, darts, shuffleboard, bags?

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Like what are we talking about here?

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Are you secretly a devastating bags player that nobody knew about?

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I play cornhole in college, man.

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I used to hang out with my boys, Chad and Pete.

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That's all I got.

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Chad and Pete.

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Not an improv guy when it comes to names.

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No, I've never been too good at those sorts of games.

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I'm not, I have a cross eye and I think it affects my depth perception a little bit.

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Yeah.

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Like darts and bags are particularly tough to figure out the right angle on.

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Now don't get me wrong, if I start having a few, you know, drinking a bit.

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That eye gets uncrossed.

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Not so much.

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It's more I perceive myself to be better.

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I like shuffleboard more, but just because of that fun sand that's on the table.

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Yeah.

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I like that.

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Aesthetically, I enjoy it.

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Yeah.

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I'm pretty good at bowling though.

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Pretty good at bowling.

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But only when I'm drunk.

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Okay.

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When I'm pretty drunk, I'm amazing at bowling.

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Okay.

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Because I stop caring and I start throwing the ball really hard.

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All right.

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One time.

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That's the recipe for success at most things.

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There's only one person who can confirm this.

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Yeah.

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But one time I bowled a perfect game.

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Okay.

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At Timberlanes here in Chicago.

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All right.

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Technically it wasn't because it started in like.

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I was going to say, I was about to hear a butt covered.

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It started in the fourth frame of one game and then continued into the next game.

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But I got 13 straight strikes.

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Or 12 straight strikes.

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I can't remember exactly, but it was the amount that you would need to have a perfect game.

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But it was carried over two games.

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That's crazy.

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It was.

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I was blowing my own mind.

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Yeah.

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I was like eight or nine strikes deep.

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I'm like, what am I doing?

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You're having the Michael Jordan game going.

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Like, Joe Fernandez, get another pitcher.

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I don't know what's going on.

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Yeah.

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Chug another beer and throw a ball really hard.

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Fernandez was just sitting there like, what?

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It was nuts.

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So anyway, this is a podcast where I have technically bowled a perfect game.

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And I know a lot about Alex James.

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And I know nothing about neither.

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Jordan, today we have a very interesting episode to go over.

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I'm somebody who's always fine with being wrong about things.

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Particularly about my predictions.

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I generally stray away from making any kind of declarative statements about things that

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may or may not be.

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And today's a good example of that.

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Because on our last episode, I predicted that Alex would be out of studio for a week.

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Right.

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Because it had been reported that he was supposed to go give his deposition on July 1 and 2.

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Yeah.

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For the Sandy Hook trial.

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And he was suspicious in his absence at the end of last week.

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Right.

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I figured there's a reasonable conclusion.

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There's a decent possibility.

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Yeah.

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Didn't know if it was true.

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But I made the leap of predicting he would be gone.

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Right.

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Monday, he's back.

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Historically speaking, the only predictions that are ever true are the ones where we're

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like, there's no way that we know what's going to happen now.

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Yeah.

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That's the only prediction that all of a sudden, you've got to give it up to the Somali pirates.

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That's what's going to be right around the corner.

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But we can't predict that.

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No, you can't.

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Yeah.

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That's the prediction.

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We predict the unexpected.

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Exactly.

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That sort of thing.

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Yeah.

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So Alex showed up on Monday in studio and did his show.

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And I was having a grand old time preparing a completely different episode.

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Right.

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Found a lot of really interesting things to talk about.

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Great.

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Thanks.

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Don't suck.

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But you know, hey, Alex had been gone.

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We haven't done a present day episode in about a week or so.

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So I figured it is our duty to cover the July 1st, 2019 episode.

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And I am not looking forward to this in any way.

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I think that I told you before we started recording, I think that towards the end of

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this is one of the scariest passages that I've ever heard on Alex's show.

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So warning if you're scared of things.

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Yeah, it's actually just three hours of him singing God bless America on a loop.

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I would take it.

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I wouldn't mind that.

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I would take it.

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I'd be like, you're a little pitchy, Alex.

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Yeah, come on.

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But we'll get into this episode.

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We'll get into the dynamics that are at play and all the stupid bullshit that he says.

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But before we get to that, I'd like to take a little bit of time to say thank you to some

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people who have signed up and are supporting the show.

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We really appreciate it.

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So first of all, Craig, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Craig.

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Thank you.

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Next, Jackson, thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Jackson.

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Next, James, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, James.

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Next, Beth, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I know you're laughing because...

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You put a little stick on Beth.

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Right, because it's the name of a kiss song.

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Okay.

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If we get it, if anyone donates and they're named Shandy, look out.

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It's going to happen.

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Gotcha.

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It's going to happen. Gotcha.

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Anybody out there who might be listening that's named Love Gun,

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I'm going to pronounce that pretty hard.

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Oh boy.

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Oh, here we go.

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Thank you, Beth.

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Finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated level.

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We appreciate it so very much.

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So Robert, thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Crikey, mate.

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That's fantastic.

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Have yourself a brew.

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How's your 401k doing, bro?

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All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?

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Let's just get down to business.

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We ain't making that money off that heroin.

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Why you pimps so good?

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My neck is freakishly large.

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I declare info war on you.

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Thank you, Robert.

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Thank you very much, Robert.

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If you're out there listening and you're thinking,

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Hey, I like this show.

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I'd like to support these guys.

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Do you could do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com,

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clicking the button that says support the show.

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We would appreciate it.

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It'd be lovely.

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So Jordan, yes.

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First of July 2019, three days before the fourth of July.

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Right.

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Such a great day for patriotism.

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Everybody put your hand over your actually.

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I'm pretty stoked about the U S women's world cup.

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Oh yeah.

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I haven't.

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Is the final on the fourth of July?

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No, not the final, but the semi-finals happening today.

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On recording this on the second second.

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Yeah.

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And they were in the 60th minute when we started recording.

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So I don't know how it's going to end.

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Hey, you know what?

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I hope it turns out well.

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Our hearts and prayers are with women,

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soccer players of these United States.

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They're great.

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They are.

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So on the first, that was Monday.

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And over the weekend, there had been, of course,

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a rally in Portland, Patriot prayer and their affiliated

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groups that had a bit of a, a bit of a shin dig.

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And, uh, the, uh, the counter demonstrators were out in force

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and, uh, you know, went down.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We'll get into some more of the details about that, uh,

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as this goes along.

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But that sets the stage for what Alex has a B in his bonnet

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about as we begin this July 1st episode.

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I sense a lot of things are going to be true.

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Oh my God.

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So many.

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He's going to tell so many truths.

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So many.

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He's going to tell the truth so much.

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So many truths.

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Um, there was a, uh, and we'll get much more in depth about

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this, uh, here after a few clips, but there, uh, one of the

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things that came out of the, the protests and the, the

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clashes between counter demonstrators and the, uh, right

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wing, uh, dum-dums is, uh, Oh, showed my bias.

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The lefty liberal media.

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One of the things that came out of that was, uh, a lot of

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accusations that people were putting a quick drying concrete

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into milkshakes.

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Yeah, I saw that.

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And the premise of it initially was that they were turning

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them into bricks that then they could throw at people and

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injure them.

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Right.

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Cause that's how that works, right?

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Certainly.

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And like I said, we'll get into all of this.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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But what's interesting about Alex's narrative about it is

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that he takes it even further than the they're making bricks

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in cups.

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Okay.

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He, uh, takes he's on the vanguard of this thing.

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All right.

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And he really breaks the case wide open.

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Ladies and gentlemen, you are about to hear a world exclusive

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piece of information hiding in plain view.

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There are so many angles to this, but here's the fact I

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have reviewed in the last two days, more than a hundred

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videos.

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We're going to be presenting many of them here.

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They're up on info wars.com and news wars.com.

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Antifa engaged in more than 20 acid attacks in Portland,

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damaging the eyesight and eating the skin off of more than

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15 people's faces.

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15 people's faces were burned with acid.

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15.

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This is really, really troubling, Dan.

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Can we get some, uh, I assume that the New York times is

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all over this story.

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Can't, uh, can't say that they are.

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Well, I mean, at the very least, Fox news must be blasting

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this from the right.

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Have to go down to like a big league politics.

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Okay.

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So, uh, yeah, you might have to go a little bit further down

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the dial in order to get this story being reported.

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Gotcha.

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Um, but Hey man, just because the mainstream media, just

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because the MSM isn't reporting on this stuff doesn't mean

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that it's not true because Alex has proof.

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We have the videos.

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We have the audio.

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We have the photos.

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We have them admitting it on the Antifa site in DC, the

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Antifa site in Portland, Oregon, the Antifa sites in San

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Francisco, the Antifa sites in Austin, Texas, that there are

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different ways to produce acid compounds and to then throw

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them on people to blind them.

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Ladies and gentlemen, they themselves shed and there's

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photos and videos that are on screen.

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If you're a TV viewer that they were going to mix quick

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setting concrete and throw it in people's faces.

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Dot, dot, dot.

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Now is probably a pretty good time to point out that pretty

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consistently the right wing is either manufactured or been

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tricked by fake Antifa accounts on Twitter and Facebook

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and ruses like that have no prominent or people playing

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pranks going on TV, pretending to be Antifa.

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Like I want to punch a horse.

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I want to punch a police horse.

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I don't think they do it.

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It is something that they're very eager to be tricked by.

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It really does seem like they, I would almost go so far as

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to say they're looking for that information more than they

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are worrying about it.

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You can make that claim.

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I feel like for me, because I'm trying to stay unbiased.

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Yes, of course.

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Of course, Dan.

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I feel like that's an assumption that would be a little

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bit too far.

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You know, I don't want to assume their intention.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Certainly looks that way, but who knows?

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Strongly and obviously.

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Yeah.

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So you were asking if the New York Times is covering this,

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this angle, this way, these chemical attacks and acid.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, technically it's a base, but okay, fair.

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Let's not get into that.

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Fair enough.

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It will cause an alkaline burn.

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Yes, sure, sure, sure.

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Get real petty.

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New York Times not covering this,

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but one hooking genius is Portland PD report on anaphylactic

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mixing concrete into milkshakes.

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This creates acid like chemical weapons.

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So, oh, Jack Pacific gets it.

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I searched all yesterday and found no one getting this.

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So this is a chemical weapon.

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This is a chemical weapon.

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So Jack Pacific gets it.

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Yeah, Jack Pacific.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I don't know if Alex ever says I get it.

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I want it gone as soon as possible.

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That's some variation of damning you with faint praise.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So the narrative that Antifa was mixing up concrete milkshakes

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is going to play a very large part in this episode.

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So it's probably exhaustively deal with it right about now.

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Surprise.

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Just a small point.

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I might use the term Antifa as the way that Alex does,

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but I do not believe that they are a centralized group,

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like something like Patriot Prayer.

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That is a group.

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Yeah.

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Antifa is not some sort of, not the same way.

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Like Patriot Prayer has Joey Gibson is the leader of the group.

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Yeah, I don't know of any centralized organization.

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There's no hierarchy in the Antifa.

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Nobody's like I'm King Antifa over here.

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So discuss it as if like Antifa was giving out milkshakes.

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Yeah.

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Is to play into the right wing framing of the conversation

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in and of itself.

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And I'm going to try and buck back against that convention

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as best I can.

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But if I slip up here and there, I

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apologize for my non-clarity and not living up

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to my own intentions.

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Right.

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I'll get into the specifics here in a couple of minutes.

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But for now, I want to make it totally clear

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that this did not happen.

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It's a completely manufactured fascist smear

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being perpetrated by dangerous monsters and useful idiots.

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Before I get into some of the details

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about this narrative, it's important to address

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why it's spreading.

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And it actually gets into something

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we've discussed in the past.

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The milkshake is the perfect weapon

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against people like Nigel Farage or Alex Jones,

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because it really doesn't elicit that much sympathy from them.

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No one's like you're hurting them.

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But it does make them look really silly.

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Nothing he can ever do in his life

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will undo the image and the headline of Nigel Farage

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refusing to leave his bus surrounded

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by people with milkshakes.

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These motherfuckers are a joke.

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And seeing their feverish response to dairy

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helps highlight that.

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Yeah.

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We understand that.

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But unfortunately, so do they.

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They realize that the potential of having

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to put up with a constant barrage of milkshakes

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whenever they're out in public is a fate that they're not

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particularly interested in.

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Because make no mistake about it,

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that's exactly what is going to happen or would happen.

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There will always be someone willing to risk

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a petty assault charge to hit a particularly distasteful

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monster with a milkshake.

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So they have to go about the rest of their day

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doing a fascist rally covered in milk.

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I will do a lot of hours of community service

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to throw a milkshake on Pol Pot.

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I think it'd be fine.

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I think I'd be OK with it.

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They would say that you're making an extreme comparison.

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I'm not.

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I'm trying to stay unbiased.

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I'm not.

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He just asked for fucking tanks at a parade, Dan.

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We're there.

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We're past it.

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So they know that their power is really only supported

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by being able to control how their followers perceive them.

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And that image is hurt considerably

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if they're constantly yelling about how people won't stop

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throwing soft dessert at them.

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It doesn't work for them.

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Stop throwing milkshakes at me.

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The best way to fight back against this

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is to transform the milkshake into a deadly weapon.

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This is honestly one of the most predictable developments

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in this information war we find ourselves in.

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It's a really short brainstorm.

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It's like, hey, this thing people are throwing at us

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is embarrassing and makes us look silly.

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But if we get too mad about something

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as trivial as people throwing milkshakes at us,

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that makes us look even more silly and way less manly

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and effectual.

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Oh, I got a solution.

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Let's just say they're trying to kill us

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with those milkshakes.

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Great idea.

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Let's do lunch.

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Yeah, that's it.

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That's what's going on.

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No, it's literally like, hey, people are like,

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you can't throw rocks at me.

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That is hurting a person.

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Right.

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People say, with milkshakes, you are making me look silly.

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What if I just told people that milkshakes were rocks?

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Right.

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It's like the milkshake is almost

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adapting the behavior in consideration

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of how a rock would hurt you.

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Yes, yeah.

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Thus, the narrative of the concrete milkshake

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is born out of that necessity.

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Portland police have said that, quote, as the event progressed,

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officers learned from some participants

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that a substance similar to quick drying concrete

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was being added to some of the milkshakes.

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This is not evidence.

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That is hearsay.

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But it was enough for the department

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to post a tweet on their official Twitter account

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saying, quote, police have received information

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that some of the milkshakes thrown today

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during the demonstration in quick drying cement,

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we're encouraging anyone hit with substance today

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to report it to the police.

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Now, at least that tweet said just

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that they'd received information that this was the case.

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Not that it was actually the case,

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that there was concrete in the milkshakes,

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but it doesn't matter.

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That was enough.

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Immediately, the right wing media's fear of shitheads

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jumped into action.

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Jack Posobick retweeted a picture

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shot by Shane Burley of people making milkshakes at the event,

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but added his spin that maybe this

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is where they were adding the concrete,

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with no evidence at all, just talking shit.

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Much like the quick drying concrete

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that wasn't in the milkshakes, the narrative

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began to solidify very rapidly.

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Articles started being published with misleading headlines that

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implied that the Portland police had said that there was concrete

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in the milkshakes that were being thrown,

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as opposed to what they had said, which is someone,

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possibly even a right wing shithead themselves,

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had told them that it was the case.

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Business Insider published an article with the headline,

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quote, protesters threw milkshakes

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containing quick drying cement as far left and far right

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groups clashed in Portland, according to police.

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That article includes this passage,

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quote, currently there is no evidence

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to substantiate the claim of concrete or cement found

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in any milkshakes.

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I'm sure that was part of the headline, too, though.

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No, no, no.

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Because you really, no, no, no.

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If you're going to add that in there,

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you really want to lead with that one.

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That way, otherwise people would think.

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Nope.

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That's in the article, as opposed to what the headline

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I just read to you.

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Oh, so they didn't put the important part in the headline.

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They put the other part.

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It doesn't matter, though, man.

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The headline was tailored to the right wing narrative

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that was developing.

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Of course.

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As evidenced by Jack Pessobic tweeting it out

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as proof that he was right all along.

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There is a game that's being bounced back and forth.

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It's very clear to see.

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Yeah.

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This is a right wing smear from the core.

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And anyone who's falling for it, and I'm

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looking sharply in the direction of dum dums like Jake Tapper,

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are playing right into the right wing media's hands.

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The goal is to make this avenue of making fascists

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look stupid and silly, making it treated

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like a life threatening attack.

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So counter protesters can't make them look silly anymore.

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Yep.

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That is the name of the game.

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There was no concrete being mixed into these milkshakes,

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because if there was, there's literally

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no way there wouldn't be any physical evidence by now,

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days later.

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How many people would have accidentally drank concrete

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and died?

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How many easily identifiable puddles of concrete

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would be strewn around the park?

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How many people would be able to easily produce

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articles of clothing with concrete all over them?

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How many police officers would have their uniforms covered

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in concrete?

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It would be a really easy thing to prove if it were true.

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None of this has been produced as evidence because it doesn't

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exist.

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And let me be clear, the burden of proof

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is not on me or anyone else to prove

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that there wasn't concrete being thrown in milkshake form.

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Right wing shitheads are making this outrageous claim

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that concrete milkshakes are being

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used as weapons in Portland, and thus it

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is on them to make their case and prove it.

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And until they do, this is shit talk being circulated

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by career shit talkers who have a pretty clear motive

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to talk this specific line of shit.

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Makes sense.

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Proof is saying it louder.

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That's what they think.

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It's so perfect that this is about cement,

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because the metaphor is so apt.

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By Sunday, the Portland Mercury put out an article, quote,

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Portland police offer no proof that protesters

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had milkshakes with quick dry cement, but it doesn't matter.

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By that point, the right wing narrative's concrete had dried.

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It was impenetrable to facts, new revelations,

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or refutation.

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It's even more perfect because the most common form

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of concrete is called Portlandite,

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or Portland concrete.

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You would think Alex would make a conspiracy out of that,

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but I guess that would take some reading to learn about,

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and he's not really into that sort of thing.

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In a release put out July 1st, the police in Portland

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offered a little bit more insight

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into why they thought that there was concrete in the milkshakes

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or why they would follow through with this.

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We're liars, and we're on their side.

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For one, an anonymous person said there was.

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Right.

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So I mean, look, I understand the police department

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taking an anonymous tip that someone

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is creating a weapon surreptitiously seriously.

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They wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't.

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When someone tells them the people are putting concrete

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in milkshakes, it's the police's responsibility to look into it.

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Check in with the people who are handing out milkshakes

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and make sure there's no credibility to that tip.

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If you're unable to figure out what's going on,

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then maybe you ask the people giving out

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milkshakes to stop or to leave.

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What you don't do is take to Twitter

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to broadcast this bullshit rumor that's ultimately, at its core,

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right wing propaganda.

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That implies that maybe you, as a police department,

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are on their side, and this anonymous email

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they got after the fact is a sloppy attempt at damage

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control.

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So they got an email after the fact.

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They got an anonymous email after the rally had happened

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and after they'd put out this tweet.

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And they said that, quote, an anonymous email

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was sent to bureau members with a, quote,

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milkshake recipe, which is laughable.

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It's a troll job, if I've ever seen one.

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Do you know what the weirdest part is?

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You actually have to get a sample of a bowl of blood

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to put it in that milkshake.

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Otherwise, it doesn't do any good as a vaccine.

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Otherwise, it's inert.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So I get the feeling that that's saying,

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well, we had someone who said that there was

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concrete in the milkshakes.

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All right, I understand that you've

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got to do something about that.

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What you did wasn't the right thing to do.

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And I think that they probably realized,

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we kind of really fucked up.

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Hey, someone sent a troll email.

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Let's use this as further rationalization,

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even though we got it after the fact.

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It doesn't support the actions that were taken.

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It only works post-factually.

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It's fucking stupid.

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For now, the last thing I want to say about this

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is that Alex's take on the situation

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is far more severe than most of the right wing shitheads

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on Twitter and Fox News.

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Most of them were approaching this

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from an angle that leftists are trying

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to make concrete milkshakes in order to have bricks to throw.

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But some of them dabbled a little bit

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in the chemical idea, but not nearly to the extent Alex is.

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Alex is full on going to argue that Antifa was out there

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making chemical weapons.

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In this sense, Alex is actually smarter

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than most of the mainstream dum-dums,

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because if the argument is that they're

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trying to make bricks out of milkshakes,

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simple chemistry debunks that theory.

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Both salt and sugar have a delaying effect

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on the solidifying of concrete.

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And in fact, many concrete workers

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use sugar or similarly constituted products

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in order to give them more time to work

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the concrete before it sets.

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And it doesn't really take much sugar

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to cause that effect, very small percentage composition

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of sugar will cause very serious delays

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in the settling of concrete.

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You just wouldn't be able to take the ingredients

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in a milkshake and add concrete to it

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and make a solid brick to throw at someone.

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It's fucking stupid.

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It's just not possible.

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Right.

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While Alex does say that that was being done,

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his bigger argument is that there's chemicals

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in fast drying concrete that'll cause chemical burns

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to people's skin.

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And to this, I say that he's technically correct.

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Concrete does cause alkaline burns

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when exposed to human skin.

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However, all he's done is further sensationalize

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the thing he in no way has proven is even real.

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So all he's really doing when you get down to it

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is making things worse.

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If this narrative were true, there

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would be even more evidence available.

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Consider how many people were hit by stray milkshakes,

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how many people had them spill on them.

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There would have been chemical burns all over the place

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and evidence would be overwhelming, but it's not.

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All Alex is doing is escalating the narrative

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to unsustainable levels.

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If the mainstream of the right wing media

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is just interested in getting people to stop throwing

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milkshakes at them, Alex wants you

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to be able to kill anyone you think has a milkshake.

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It's profoundly scary stuff.

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And some of the things that end up being said on this episode,

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like I said, rank up there with the most upsetting things

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I've heard him advocate for.

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They imply that there's nowhere else for his rhetoric

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and worldview to go other than murder.

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And I am not pleased by this development.

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Yeah, he's looking for a shot heard around the world,

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but because some dude was holding a milkshake.

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Exactly.

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I mean, because if you break it down, what you've got

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is a built-in justification for preemptive attacks on people

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who have maybe even a Starbucks, maybe got a Frappuccino.

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Anything could be, I mean, it's bedlam.

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It's quite literally anything could be a weapon.

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If anybody who looks like a leftist is holding a cup,

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then they might be mixing something to kill

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god-fearing patriots.

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And if you accept that, the steps

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that you end up having to take to resolve

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those paranoia and those fears are unbelievably scary.

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They're offensive.

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They lead to probably the most dystopian view

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of what could happen in the next couple of months.

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And I don't know.

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So Alex's idea that they're throwing these milkshakes

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around, causing chemical burns on people,

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he has some evidence of that.

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Sure.

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And they throw it in your face.

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And that's why when you look at the photos and the videos,

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people that were hit with it, their skin is all burned.

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Their eyes are all totally bloody and bloodshot.

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They will guarantee have vision loss.

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So what you're looking at is mass terrorists

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of your TV viewer.

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Radio listeners, the articles are on infowars.com.

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Literally mixing acid attacks, and then notice the left

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is all about deception.

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Calling it milkshake attacks.

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Two pictures were circulated after the events on Saturday.

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And one of them was a picture of a hand

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that had been chemical burned, and another

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was a woman who had her face had some chemical burns on it.

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The hand, you just reverse image search it,

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and it's a standard picture of a chemical burn

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that is all over the internet.

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It's a Shutterstock stock image kind of thing.

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I don't know if it's a stock image.

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I don't remember exactly.

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But it's something that's used consistently

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and has been for a long time.

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Has nothing to do with this.

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The picture of the woman with her face

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was you reverse image search that,

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and it goes back to a woman who had her face burned

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by essential oils.

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It has nothing to do with this.

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It is being weaponized and used to justify

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the argument of concrete burning people.

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It's nonsense.

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Alex is just reporting lies, which isn't surprising.

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But the stakes of it are shocking.

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They're very severe.

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Because we get this next clip.

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I don't think, I want to stress, I've

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been talking a little bit extremely about the conclusions

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that Alex could come to in terms of what he's trying to do

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is justify being able to shoot people who have milkshakes.

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And I wasn't talking shit.

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He literally kind of expresses that in this next clip.

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Antifa now vows to attack families

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trying to go to a 4th of July event in DC.

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They're trying to get somebody to shoot them.

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Doesn't matter.

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They dump acid right on your five-year-old's face.

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You pull a gun and shoot them.

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You will be the terrorist.

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You will be the bad guy.

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They are the little meth heads that work for the cities,

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that work for the universities, and work

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for the federal government.

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That's why the Portland mayor allows

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them to do all this, because a lot of them are his staff,

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it's turned out.

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So that is just like justification.

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They're going to throw milkshakes full of acid

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at your children.

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And if you shoot them, you're the bad guy.

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Fucking hell, man.

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That's insane.

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So at the end there, Alex says that Antifa

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works for the Portland mayor.

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And I'm not so interested in that, because it's not.

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I have no interest in that.

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It's nonsensical.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And that idea.

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Please don't even acknowledge that.

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That idea is a particularly tough milkshake to swallow.

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I promise that will be the last milkshake.

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No, it won't.

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No, it won't.

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I think it is.

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If you didn't write it down, I'm coming one later.

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I'm coming for one later.

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And one of the reasons is because of the relationship

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that is very clear between the right wing folks

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and the Portland Police Department.

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No.

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One of the reasons that people took particular offense

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at the Portland Police Bureau's official Twitter account

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being used to publicize and lend credibility

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to the right wing smear campaign about the concrete

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and the milkshakes is that in the past few years,

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there's been a troubling trend of the Portland police taking

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the side of right wing protesters,

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even when they're doing things that are kind of fucked up.

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In June 2017, there was a rally in Portland

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that turned a little bit ugly.

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An Oregon Live article about it has this headline.

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Quote, dueling Portland rallies end without major violence,

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but police intervene, which might give you the impression

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that everything turned out pretty all right.

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However, here's the fourth paragraph of that article.

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Quote, officers deployed explosives and pepper balls

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to scatter anti-fascist crowds gathered

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at Chapman and Lownesdale squares

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just north of the pro-Trump rally.

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So violence averted.

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Just explosions and pepper balls.

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Right, right, right.

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But I mean, from them.

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If the cops do it, it's not violence, Dan.

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The rally was taking place a week

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after Jeremy Christian had murdered two men

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on a train in Portland who were trying

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to stop him from verbally assaulting

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two women with racist attacks.

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He would go on to tell the police

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that stabbing those two men made him, quote, happy.

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That rally was being organized by Joey Gibson,

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that rally that ended up with explosions and pepper balls.

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Joey Gibson's the leader of Patriot prayer.

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Incidentally, Gibson had also organized a far-right rally

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in Portland in April 2017, where Jeremy Christian

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was in attendance and was found on video marching

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around doing Nazi salutes.

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At the June rally, Gibson made a concerted effort

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to distance himself from Christian,

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which I think is a good idea that's good for business.

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Bad for history, good for business.

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Probably.

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At the rally in June, the police detained

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approximately 400 counter-protesters

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for about an hour.

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But a report that came out from the Independent Police Review

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Division pointed out that the police never

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gave a legal reason for their detentions,

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which seems like the sort of behavior

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Alex Jones might call tyranny.

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Pictures and videos came out of Portland police

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wrestling a counter-protester to the ground.

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That might not have been too shocking

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or cause for serious concern, but the other thing

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that was in that video certainly was.

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Todd Kelsey, a member of the American Freedom Keepers

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militia, is seen literally helping the police

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detain the demonstrator.

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Kelsey would go on to tell the Guardian

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that the police officer who was arresting the guy

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had asked for his help, despite there being

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a ton of other cops around.

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Literally three of them on top of this demonstrator alone.

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Well, you get this militia guy.

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Hey, give me a hand.

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Well, I mean, he's a militia member there,

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so the assumption is that he's there

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to assist the law enforcement and peacekeeping systems, Dan?

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I'm in, sure.

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Those images are never used for terrorist purposes?

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There's a really suspicious theme emerging there

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that the police were being on the side of the right wing

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folks, as opposed to being neutral upholders of the law.

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And this suspicion was confirmed on June 27, 2018,

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when the Independent Police Review released

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their full report about the police response at that rally.

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They said, quote, one lieutenant felt the right wing protesters

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were much more mainstream than the left wing protesters,

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and that they were more into the right wing,

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because the left wing folks were, quote,

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a group that was diverse in their viewpoints and tactics.

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A police officer-

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Boy, that's on the nose.

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That's a little bit on the nose, right?

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Maybe.

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That's literally like saying, well,

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they're not all white dudes.

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Yep.

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It was pretty plain to see that the Portland Police Department

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was more or less showing where their priorities were,

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and things got worse from there.

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In October 2018, it was announced

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that members of Patriot Prayer were found

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on the roof of a parking structure in downtown Portland,

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quote, with a cache of firearms, before a scheduled protest

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on August 4, a couple months earlier.

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The cache was said to have included long guns.

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No one was arrested, which may be an OK decision if none

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of the guns were illegal, and everyone's paperwork

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was in order, and all that.

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But even if you're not going to arrest anyone

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when you find them with what might

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be considered a strategic location with a cache

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of firearms, that revelation should at least

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inform how you behave as law enforcement

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during the upcoming rally.

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But it didn't.

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Police charged counter-protesters

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at that rally with their clubs drawn after someone told them

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that they'd been hit by a water bottle, which, quote,

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likely came from a counter-protester.

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Likely came from a counter-protester.

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Doug Brown, a photographer who was there on the scene,

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told The Guardian, quote, the first missile I saw and heard

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came from the Patriot Prayer site,

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across the street toward the protesters.

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I don't know who set it off, but it

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went towards the black block, and then the police

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just swarmed them.

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A woman was sent to the hospital after being

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hit by a flashbang.

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Joey Gibson's second in command, a man named Tiny,

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was seen at the protest in a shirt that read,

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Pinochet did nothing wrong.

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This all cool.

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That sounds like a good shirt.

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Do we have that one up yet?

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Do not.

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OK, good.

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That August rally was a month after another rally

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that they had on June 30, which descended into total chaos

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and was declared a riot.

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There's a clear pattern here, and it's

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one where the police department is not

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interested in doing anything to control the far-right elements,

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like Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys.

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They work to stage violent street actions

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under the guise of free speech rallies,

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and that's sort of dumb bullshit.

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In February 2019, Katie Shepherd of the Willamette Week

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reported on text messages that were

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exchanged between Joey Gibson and the Portland police.

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The messages start to make things a little more clear.

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On multiple instances, Portland police Lieutenant Jeff Nia

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appears to be providing Gibson with intel

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on where left-wing protests were taking place.

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And on one occasion, he, quote, told Gibson

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that Portland police were not monitoring a protest hosted

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by the Queer Liberation Front in an attempt

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to dissuade Gibson's right-wing group from showing up,

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which is to say, you're going to get fucked up if you go there.

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The police aren't going to be able to get your back,

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which is fucked up.

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Right.

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No, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, you know, the police have long

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been a tool of the fascist state,

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but boy, did we discover how white nationalists they are.

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As it's come to, they've always been white nationalists.

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It's tough to overstate, but it's also tough for me

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to fully encapsulate, if that makes sense.

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Right.

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But here's the thing, man.

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So Jeff Nia, the Portland police Lieutenant, right?

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I mean, he's texting all the time with Joey Gibson,

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giving him all this friendly banter and information.

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But it should be pointed out that in 2017,

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it did come out that he was also texting with someone

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from the anti-fascist side.

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It came out that 20-year-old anti-fascist activist named

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Tan had been texting with him a bunch.

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But that situation was a little bit different.

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Whereas Nia was providing Joey Gibson with information

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to protect his right-wing group, Nia

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was using Tan as an informant to gather information

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about where counter demonstrators were marching.

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I feel like this is a pretty succinct illustration

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of the way the Portland police have engaged

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with this unfolding situation.

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Reach out to the left in hopes of finding a snitch

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and feed information to the right-wing provocateurs

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so they can avoid and evade trouble.

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There's far more to this story than I can credibly explain

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to you here on this episode.

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But it's important to remember that nothing exists in a vacuum.

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So when the Portland Police Bureau tweets out

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something that's dumb as shit, like the concrete milkshakes

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nonsense, it often can't be seen as a single isolated event,

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but rather just one more instance

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in a years-long pattern of the police department declaring

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their allegiance to siding with the crowd that

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is intermingled with neo-Nazis, white supremacists,

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and militia members.

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Do you mean just the Republican Party?

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This has nothing to do with anything,

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but it deserves mentioning that the Portland Police

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Bureau's current chief is named Danielle Outlaw.

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Oh.

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Which is an ironic thing.

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That is fun.

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That is fun.

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Got to end things on a fun note.

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Come on now.

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Her name's Outlaw.

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Everybody keeps promoting her, just like, wouldn't it

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be hilarious?

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Wouldn't it be so funny?

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Our top cop is an outlaw.

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Yeah, come on, guys.

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Let's all have a great time.

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So I mean, this isn't to say that the Portland Police

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Department is 100% working with these right wing provocateurs

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or anything like that.

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But it does seem to indicate, when

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you look at the information that's available,

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you look at the stories, you look at the trends,

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you see that there is a clear preference.

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Well, but that's.

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There is a differential treatment of the two groups.

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Of course.

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That doesn't, is not explained by the behavior of those two

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groups.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, it's explained by the behavior of the cops

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since fucking America started.

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The whole job of the cops is to ensure

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any kind of counterprotest.

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It's like a, it's a fucking tool of the status quo.

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There's not been any protest in America's history

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where the cops have been on the side of the right,

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or on the side of good, so to speak.

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It's not like cops were hanging out with Black Panthers.

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I bet there were a few.

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Oh, yeah.

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Which is, I guess it doesn't really change anything.

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No.

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Dan, not every cop in Chicago has murdered somebody.

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But enough cops in Chicago have murdered somebody

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that you don't trust the cops in Chicago.

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Right.

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You don't have to have a universal problem

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in order for something to be a systemic problem.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And it does appear that way.

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From everything I can tell and all the reporting,

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I'm able to find on it.

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So in this next clip, Alex just keeps

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doubling down and stressing his extreme positions

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that are preemptive justifications for violence.

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Let this sink in.

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Antifa, the Maoist communist group in the United States,

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shut up 30 years ago, that calls for overthrowing

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the government, killing their political enemies,

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banning free speech.

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They are now nationwide saying they're

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going to attack anybody at Fourth of July rallies,

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anybody that tries to go out in public, anybody that

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tries to support Trump, any type of veterans rallies,

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any type of free speech rallies, that they're going to attack

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them with chemical weapons, with acid attacks,

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barring it from the Islamicists, who are their gods.

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Oh, good.

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Can we sue him now?

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I don't know.

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I don't think we can.

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I don't know if we have standing.

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I think we have some standing.

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I don't know.

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I mean, I'm anti-fascist.

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And Antifa doesn't really exist as a thing.

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So what he's really saying is anyone

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who is against anti-fascists or anyone who's anti-fascists.

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Well, the fact that he is describing a non-entity

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kind of means that you can't sue him.

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That's true.

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Fair.

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Shit.

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But what he's doing there is he's taking everything.

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Every event that you might go to, all of you

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right-leaning people, every event that you go to,

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be fucking scared.

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Be on edge.

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Every moment.

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It's going to be a high-tension situation.

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If somebody's got a milkshake, you know what to do.

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You know what to do.

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Probably going to have to kill them.

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We know it.

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It's justified.

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It's defensible.

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They're going to hit your kid with a fucking chemical weapon.

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Do you want your kid to grow blind

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because some anti-fascist threw concrete milkshake on him?

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Do you want that?

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You better bring your fucking gun to this barbecue

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that you're going to.

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I think that's a good idea.

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Because do you know what I love at my barbecues

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with all of my family, none of whom

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are gun-loving people who all carry guns and are

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afraid in the exact same way, is that when there are a lot

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of people together with guns, and somebody maybe

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has a janky trigger finger, and somebody walks up

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with the milkshake, maybe they fire on accident,

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all of a sudden there are a lot of guns firing real quick,

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aren't there, Dan?

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I would assume so.

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It's like that you're in a big group of people.

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One guy throws up, and then everyone throws up.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That sort of trigger reaction happens.

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So based on nothing, Alex now is going

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to report that there were hundreds

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of containers of chemical weapon at the Portland rally.

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Are we going to address what should be

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very obvious to Alex right now?

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What, that people drinking him would be dead?

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That he's literally doing exactly what the lead up

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to the Iraq war was?

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Oh, I mean, I don't think he cares.

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No, he doesn't care, but this is like,

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this is borderline word for word kind of situation here.

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Yeah.

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So hundreds of containers, Jordan, of chemical weapons.

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Acid attacks are taking place in America.

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They mixed hundreds of containers

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of the chemical weapon.

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What the right wing really would love these militia guys

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is if they did put chemical shit in the milkshake.

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Definitely.

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They would love that.

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If that was reported in the New York Times and Fox News,

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it would be open fucking season.

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That's what they want.

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It would be the end of this being like a conversation

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that you could have.

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You know, like, were there chemicals in those milkshakes,

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no matter how much you support social justice,

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no matter how much you are against white nationalists

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and, uh.

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That would be the beginning of the war.

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Well, because I think that you are breaking,

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you're committing war crimes.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Chemical warfare is presumably not allowed in war.

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I mean, probably not for at least a good,

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I think we had a good five year stretch.

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I said presumably.

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Five year stretch where it wasn't allowed.

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I said presumably.

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After 1979, I think we had a good run.

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Right, but that's where it becomes,

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like, unjustifiable to not be against this group.

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And that's why they want it to be true.

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And simultaneously, why it is never going to be true.

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Exactly.

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So anyway, it's a lot of bullshit.

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Anyway, in this next clip, Alex explains

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that people with milkshakes that presumably have concrete in

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them is why we have the Second Amendment.

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Is that why?

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Apparently.

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I don't think so.

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His reason changes constantly.

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Does, doesn't it?

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This is terrorism in America, mobs of cowards ganging up.

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This is why we have the Second Amendment, folks.

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And they start coming to your houses, which they pledge to do.

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What?

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They're going to come to your houses.

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And let me tell you this, they never will.

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Nope.

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You never see these counter protesters

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anywhere other than counter protesting

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super right wing events.

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They don't show up to your house.

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But you know who does have a bit of a history with that?

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The Proud Boys.

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Huh.

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In May 2018, video artist Vic Berger,

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formerly of Super Deluxe, was on a bit of a streak

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making fun of the Proud Boys and their leader, Gavin McGinnis.

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The gang didn't take kindly to that.

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And according to a message posted in their group chat,

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they had a goal of doxxing Vic, saying in all caps, quote,

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let's show them there are consequences.

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Then a dude showed up at Vic's house.

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Speaking to HuffPost, Vic Berger said, quote,

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when I answered the door, he seemed nervous,

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like he wasn't expecting me.

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It was the middle of the day and my wife was home.

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He said, are you Vic?

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Your videos are hurting a lot of people.

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You're really hurting the Proud Boys.

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You need to stop making these videos.

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Probably because Vic chased the guy immediately,

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this incident didn't escalate.

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But it's the sort of thing that absolutely

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is the next level of scary.

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The Proud Boys are a gang where you literally

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have to get into a fight or get arrested for the gang

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in order to reach the fourth degree of initiation,

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which is the sort of thing, you know,

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it's the sort of thing that,

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the sort of shitheads who gravitate towards a gang

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where you have to name cereals

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who are getting softly punched in order to join,

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they might take that to mean track down

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and assault people who don't like us.

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Proud Boys!

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That does feel like that might be how you interpret

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the fourth degree.

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Vic Berger is far from the only critic of the right wing

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who's been doxxed or threatened by the Proud Boys.

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Nathan Bernard also has had his address posted on Twitter

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and others have alleged that they've had gang members

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show up at their homes.

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This is a hugely inappropriate level of intimidation

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that they're engaging in,

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which I do consider to be a form of violence

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and they know exactly what they're doing.

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Oh yeah.

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Oh, you also have Tommy Robinson,

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who recently showed up at a critic of his,

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Mike Stuckberry's house at 11 p.m. and banged on his doors

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and windows.

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This is of course, after giving out the dude's address

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on social and social media accounts on a live stream

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that he was doing.

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So of course the banging on the walls was accompanied

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by a flood of threatening messages on the guy's phone.

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Mike called the police and Tommy left only to return

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at 5 a.m. and do it all over again.

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This is clear intimidation,

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meant to get people to stop giving critical coverage

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to xenophobic, far right, racist, misogynistic,

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anti-semitic, Islamophobic, and overall shithead actors

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in our society.

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Antifa, in quotes, isn't doing that.

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They're not showing up at your house.

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They're showing up when you have a rally

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to make it harder for you to speak in public

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because your views are repulsive.

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Right.

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That's what's going on.

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No one's going to your goddamn house.

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Well, anything that they are.

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Because again, that's the same thing

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as putting concrete in the milkshake.

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Exactly.

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They aren't showing up at people's houses

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and the argument becomes indefensible,

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like it should be for the Proud Boys.

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Right.

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Like Alex should disavow them

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and be like, this has gone too far.

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Showing up at people we disagree with's houses.

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Tommy Robinson was on Alex's show the day after

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he did this shit to his critic.

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And Alex was like, oh man, you gotta give it to that guy.

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Yep.

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Stick it to him.

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Yep.

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Anyway, so in this next clip, you know, look,

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they're putting acid in the milkshakes.

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Sure, sure.

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And that's pretty bad.

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It's a bummer.

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But Alex isn't worried.

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Oh, OK, good.

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They're going to find out that the acid won't beat bullets

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when we defend ourselves.

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OK, just shoot them.

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Shoot them then.

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Shoot the people with milkshakes, Alex.

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That's a great plan.

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Is that a new rock, paper, scissors kind of situation?

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Bullets, bullets beat acid, acid beats milkshake,

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milkshake beats bullets.

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Yeah, let's say that.

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I think that works.

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So in this next clip, we kind of realize

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why Alex is ramping up this rhetoric so intensely.

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You can really feel that this 35 seconds is indicative of why

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he needs to do shit like this, which is deeply

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irresponsible and very dangerous.

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You just saw terrorists mixing up hundreds

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of cups of a chemical weapon.

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Quick-set concrete has four different types of acid in it.

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It makes concrete fuse together.

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It'll eat your eyeballs out.

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Ask anybody.

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Read the damn package.

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New video shows Antifa crowbar attack.

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Macing of elderly man.

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Paul Joseph Watson, infowars.com, newswars.com.

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We're going to go to Paul Watson right now.

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But please remember, this is why we need your support.

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America is going in to the most insane time since 1776.

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He needs to make it so extreme because that

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justifies why you need to give him your money now.

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Yep.

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You need to, look, we got a half-off sale on everything.

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Free shipping, double Patriot points.

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Antifa's making chemical weapons.

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Just fucking give me your money.

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We need it.

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That's what's going on.

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Yeah, it is.

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He doesn't care that he's putting people

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in very serious danger.

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Well, no, because he needs money on a timetable that

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justifies the timetable that people need to act, you know?

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He needs money now.

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Well, it looks like he needs it in the next couple of days.

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Exactly.

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Well, that's what I'm saying.

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Usually he can be like, it's the summer of rage.

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It's coming up, so donate so we can fight off against this.

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It's like, I need $100,000 tomorrow.

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So guess what?

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Antifa's coming to your house.

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Give me money.

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Otherwise, you guys are going to be there.

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Antifa's going to throw chemical weapons on your kids

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on the 4th.

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Now.

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He's obsessed with the July 4th stuff,

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as he says, reiterates in this next clip.

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They're about to make their move.

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Paul Joseph Watson of summit.news and infowars.com.

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You have been at the epicenter.

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I asked you to come on last week.

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You were too busy about the threats of acid attacks

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against Brixeters.

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And now it's happening in America.

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And they say coming up July 4th, they're

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going to hit everybody at July 4th in DC.

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My god, imagine.

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Terrorists are going to mix up acid and attack conservatives

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all over the world.

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And our own governments aren't going to do a damn thing, Paul.

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Wow.

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Very extreme.

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OK.

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So Paul Joseph Watson has an interesting idea

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about how one might go about taking care

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of this here Antifa problem.

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That's not good.

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I don't like his ideas, period.

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No, it's a pretty bad idea, especially coming from him.

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Yeah.

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These masks are only being worn for one reason,

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so they can get away with committing violent crime.

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OK, so if they come into a protest area with an object,

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which is going to be used in the process of committing

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a violent crime, why is that not being taken away from them?

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Ban the masks, and then it's bye bye Antifa,

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because they can no longer hide their identities.

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So that's an interesting idea.

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And it's always great to hear a noted guy who cries

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about free speech all the time, Paul Joseph Watson, advocating

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publicly that the government should

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be in the business of regulating citizens' clothing choices.

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This shit is really stupid, considering

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how many right-wing demonstrators wear masks

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and how the government control of people's clothing

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is a fucking insane thing for a supposed

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libertarian to advocate for.

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If the problem is that masks make people harder

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to identify and your solution is to ban them,

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I got bad news about hats, wigs, face paint, makeup, sunglasses,

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and facial hair.

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Those things make people harder to identify, too,

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so I guess the state should probably crack down

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on any of that shit.

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Don't forget Mission Impossible masks.

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Also, a pretty sure side benefit of this

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is that Alex and Paul Joseph Watson would then

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be able to make sure that Muslims

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couldn't wear their niqabs.

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It would be nice.

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Sure.

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That's just killing two birds with one stone.

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And the best part about this, Jordan,

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if you look at the pictures of the people who

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were making the milkshakes at the Portland protest, most

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of them were not wearing masks.

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If you sincerely believe that these people were mixing up

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goddamn chemical weapons in broad daylight

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around everybody taking pictures,

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you would expect they would have been the most heavily masked

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people out there.

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And that was not the case.

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Paul Joseph Watson and his ilk want these people not

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to be allowed to wear masks because they want to dox them

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and subject them to targeted harassment.

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It's that simple.

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And Paul wants the state to step in and make it easier for them

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to figure out who these people are

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so they can start propaganda campaigns against them

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and somehow tie them to Soros or some shit.

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This is one of their favorite weapons in the information

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warfare arsenal and a simple bandana

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so completely stymies them that they're

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willing to throw away all their limited government

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individualism freedom bullshit.

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These are sad people, so sad people

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when they're pushed to the wall.

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When their back is to the wall and people

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with bandanas and a dessert are wrecking their shop,

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they cry for the state.

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It really is like, I hate the state, but please help me.

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They make it illegal for these people to make me look silly.

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I know, right?

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Like, I would be a hero.

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I would be He-Man if we were fighting a war.

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But you're throwing a milkshake at me.

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So instead of being a strong man, I look like a silly girl.

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I need the government.

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Social safety net.

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Yeah.

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So Alex and Paul Joseph Watson are also

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dudes who are very seriously mad about the idea

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that they've been kicked off social media

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and they're not allowed on Patreon.

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They're not allowed on all sorts of other places

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where normal people congregate.

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Right, right, right, right.

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So it's interesting to hear Paul Joseph Watson advocate this.

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We know the group behind it, Alex.

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It's called Rose City Antifa.

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They've literally got a post on Facebook

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right now celebrating the, quote,

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amazing success of their people smashing in old men's heads

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with crowbars and macing them in the face.

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They're on Twitter, not being banned,

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not being suspended on Twitter.

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They're raising money from a website called rally.org.

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People need to contact this website called rally.org

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and ask them, do you support domestic terrorism,

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because your platform is being used to raise

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money for domestic terrorists.

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They've got a website.

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Who hosts their website?

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I want to be clear.

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I'm totally fine with Paul doing that,

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because if you do believe that somebody is so way out of line

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and they're being supported by being on this platform

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and you want to make your voice heard,

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your disapproval towards that platform

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that they are hosting this person,

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I'm of the belief that you have every right

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to express that to the platform.

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And if they so choose, they can kick the person off.

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Paul Joseph Watson should not believe that.

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Based on everything that InfoWars

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has been saying for the last year, at least,

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they absolutely should not be being like, hey, you know what?

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You need to go apply pressure so these places kick people off

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of them.

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All they do is complain about how

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that's what happened to them.

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It's nonsense.

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Does he think they're going to call his bluff?

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What does he think?

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Because he's ostensibly saying that as like a,

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well, if we get banned, why don't they get banned?

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That must be a tacit admission that they support them.

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I think he's just trying to hurt them.

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Yeah.

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I think that's all it is.

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I think it's all just like us.

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I think he's just a loser little titty baby lashing out.

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More or less.

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I think it's a galvanizing of the troops towards like, hey,

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let's flood these places with messages.

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Maybe their crowdfunding will be taken away.

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Maybe we can get their website kicked off its hosting.

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Right, right, right.

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It's that sort of thing.

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Maybe we can get James Gunn off of directing

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Guardians of the Galaxy Three.

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Yeah, sure.

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It's that sort of like let's start a brigade kind of thing.

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Right, right, right, right.

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I mean, fine.

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It's lame.

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Certainly doesn't match up with anything they believe.

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It seems like it.

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Which again, is so fucking indicative of how this operates.

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It's like any time there's something that goes,

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like it's just not working in your favor.

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Yeah.

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Principles.

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They want one set of rules for them

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and one set of rules for everybody else.

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And they want everybody else to pretend

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that they aren't different.

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Yeah.

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So in this next clip, I think that this

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is a really pretty succinct and scary version of Alex's

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position on things.

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The left is making the revolutionary terrorist move.

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They've now ratcheted out to organized people

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handing out concrete acid chemical weapon milkshakes.

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If that's true, if what he is reporting is true,

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if you believe that, why aren't you killing them?

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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You don't have a choice.

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If you accept that as a reality and you

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accept that that is happening, like you're like, all right,

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well, we'll wait.

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We'll wait and see what happens.

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At what point is it like, hey, it's time.

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They're throwing chemical weapons at people.

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They've declared a revolution and they're clandestinely

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throwing chemical weapons at people

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and the government doesn't care.

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How much more severe can the situation

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that Alex is presenting ever be?

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I don't see another, like, well, I mean, of course,

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there are, you know, you can always add a little design

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here, a little design there.

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You can gild the lily a little bit.

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But like in terms of, hey, Alex, you

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are saying that these people are in a war,

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like not some sort of a like.

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No, it's gone from a cold war to a hot war.

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If you're throwing battery acid or if you're

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throwing acid at people, it's a hot war.

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Yeah.

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Now, honestly, and this is only based on just knowing

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Alex through this show.

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But I think there's a part of him that genuinely does not

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think that it would be a war unless they used guns too.

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Yeah, you know what, you're probably right.

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Like, if they blew up the police station,

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they'd be like, how dare they fight that?

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But they didn't use a gun, so it's not really a war,

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you know, like.

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I think that you might be right.

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The idea of the shot heard around the world

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is such an obsession of their, yeah.

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It has to be a gun.

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That's interesting.

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That might be the case.

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Right, and isn't that stupid?

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And it definitely shouldn't be something that I thought,

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and it shouldn't be something that you agreed with.

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But it does kind of sound right.

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Nope.

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Crazy.

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So speaking of crazy, Alex has a new product

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that he's selling in honor of his debate coverage

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that he wasn't on most of.

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We've only got about 100 left of the Clown World

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Ultra Limited Edition Clown World t-shirts.

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That's at Infowarsstore.com.

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So I wanted to bring this up because when

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I heard Alex called his Democratic debate

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coverage Clown World, I didn't really

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think too much about it.

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It kind of made sense that he would

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call the Democrats clowns.

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And he's not very creative, so it just made sense.

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Yeah, I thought Clown World was quick.

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I didn't even really think too much about the fact

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that he literally said on air that he took the name from 4

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Chan and 8 Chan, because he pretty much takes everything

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from there.

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So it didn't even really cross my mind

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that this is somehow weird.

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However, it's come to my attention

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from some people who spend more time in the bad parts

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of the internet than I do that the term Clown World has

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some really bad connotations in those parts of the web.

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And Alex is clearly signaling to those people.

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The Clown World meme began on the Chans.

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As the publication Forward put it, quote,

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they were, quote, describing what

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they see as the logic of a liberal, non-racist society

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as being Clown World.

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When they would post stories that

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seemed to fit into their worldview,

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they'd use the code Honk Honk to express

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that everything was backwards.

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From there, the terminology and meme

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took hold in all of the wrong places.

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It became really popular on the Daily Stormer.

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And on April 22 of this year, quote,

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two members of the American Identity Movement,

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the white nationalist group formerly known as Identity

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Europa, dressed as clowns and entered the New Orleans Public

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Library to disrupt a children's storytime program being

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led by local drag queens.

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Welcome to Clown World, Honk Honk, their sign said.

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I'm really afraid because the right

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is getting good at comedy.

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They're getting great at it.

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They're getting really good at it.

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The meme world is not for me.

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I think even non-racist memes are kind of stupid.

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So I'm probably not the best person

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to cover this topic and all the nuances of it.

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But suffice it to say that Alex Jones is fully aware

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of the racist and anti-Semitic roots and world

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that this meme that he's naming his Democrat debate coverage

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comes out of, you know?

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He knows what he's doing.

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And it's equal parts disturbing and kind of pathetic

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to see how far he's fallen.

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He's gone from being heavily associated with Ron Paul's

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campaign in 2012 to trying to court racist edgelords as fans

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and doing interviews with Count Dankula in 2019.

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It's really sad what a couple of really big bad decisions

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can do to a person's career.

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I'm not saying that his career was amazing before,

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but comparatively.

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Compared to mine, it's been amazing.

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Holy shit.

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Just a couple of years, man.

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Yeah.

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Just pfft.

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Yeah.

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I mean, in the same time, it's not like it's for him,

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you know, we can point to those big decisions.

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But it's been a million small ones along the way too.

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Don't get me wrong.

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You know, it's a death of 1,000 cuts.

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But it's also a couple of chops.

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Yeah.

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He's really made every mistake and then leaned into it,

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thinking that it would get him out.

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He thought he could mistake his way through to the other side,

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basically.

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He thought he could Dukes of Hazzard it.

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Yeah.

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It's not working.

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He's, you can't jump Snake River Canyon.

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And I can mix metaphors.

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Isn't that references?

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Yeah.

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Reference is a metaphor.

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Do you mean that figuratively or literally?

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Paradoxically.

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Interesting.

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So in court, Alex is constantly saying that, you know, like,

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hey, man, yeah, I fucking sell things, right, bro?

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Yeah.

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I sell things.

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He does.

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I love selling.

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He's a good salesman.

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But.

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Oh, no.

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My show and my ads are different.

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They're separate.

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I, hmm, hmm, now.

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Jordan.

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OK, now hold on.

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Legally.

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So anyway, I know that that's not true.

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It's complete nonsense.

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Yes, of course.

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Of course.

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This little clip here is just so amazing.

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How, like, how exactly indicative

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it is of how intertwined show and ad are.

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Content and marketing are completely blended.

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We have the great new limited edition Space Shuttle Space

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Force shirt that's so popular and a lot of others.

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But whatever you do, think about how free speech is under attack

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and how critical Infowars is to be the loud, focused voice

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pointing out this is a chemical acid attack.

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You're not seeing that on Fox or CNN.

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That's the truth.

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That's how crazy it's gotten.

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So read the thousands of five star reviews.

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Everything is 50% off at InfowarsLife.com or Triple 8.

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So that's almost like a poem structure.

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That's like ABAB.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That was crazy.

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Ad, content, ad, content.

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It's nuts.

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It's not a haiku.

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It's Senryu.

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I think it's out of control.

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It's almost like DNA.

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It's a double helix.

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It's tough to argue that content and ad

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aren't inextricably related.

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What that reminds me of so much is my girlfriend

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made me watch The Bachelorette with her one night.

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One night.

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There was this, they go walking in a park somewhere.

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And there's all of a sudden, very, very conspicuously,

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an ice cream guy selling Halo Top ice cream

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or whatever it's called.

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And they get two big things and the camera zooms in on them.

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Cut to break.

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Halo Top ice cream is a proud sponsor.

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And it's like, Jesus, guys, that's too much.

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Yeah, just bad product placement.

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That's too much, yeah.

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Speaking of which, I love, I don't see a product around.

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Ooh, Sour Patch.

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Sour Patch.

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The official.

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They got the new ones.

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Oh, do they?

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Strawberries.

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You know, the Sour Patch watermelons, those are the best.

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So I saw a pack.

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How are the strawberries?

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They taste like strawberries.

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Oh, OK.

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Ish.

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The candy, of course.

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So the argument that Antifa is going out there

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through doing some chemical warfare,

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I mean, that would certainly be emboldened

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by past stories of Antifa committing chemical warfare.

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And thankfully, Paul Joseph Watson has one such story.

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Get into what you predict coming next.

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DC, the lack of action on this terror group,

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the mixing of the chemical weapon in front of everybody,

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the police standing down, this shows

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they're really going to go the whole way coming into 2020.

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Well, people forget that Antifa members were actually arrested

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back in February 2017 for planning an acid attack

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on Trump supporters.

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Whether Trump administration is actually

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going to do anything about literal terrorists trying

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to target his supporters remains to be seen.

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But there's a headline from 2017,

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third arrest made in connection to planned deplorable acid

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attack.

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We all remember that deplorable.

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We remember where we were when.

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Oh, it was a star-studded evening.

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The deplorable.

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I believe Alex was late because he had to pee on a tree

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drunkenly.

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There was that.

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Paul Joseph Watson is referencing

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a really dishonest story.

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This was about a man named Scott Charney, who

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pled guilty not to planning a gas

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attack on the deplorable, but to discussing one.

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He had zero intention to commit an acid attack

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or any type of attack for that matter.

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His offense was so severe, though,

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that he just had to do 48 hours of community service,

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after which point his record was expunged.

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So it wasn't a very serious thing.

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Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

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Charney was arrested.

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Literal terrorist, you mean.

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Right.

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Charney was arrested because James O'Keefe had secretly

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recorded him discussing the idea of a, quote unquote,

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acid attack on the deplorable.

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The conversation was about pulling the fire alarms

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and throwing a stink bomb, by the way.

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But of course, Paul Joseph Watson and his ilk

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make it out to be mustard gas or some shit.

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Why isn't O'Keefe in jail?

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Because he pled it down.

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Motherfucker.

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Not this one, another one.

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Yeah.

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So Charney was a member of the group Disrupt J20, which

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was a group that was all about disrupting

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events surrounding the inauguration.

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It's easy to paint them as being solely anti-Trump as a group,

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because Trump won.

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But at least one of the representatives

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has gone on record that they would have been

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just as active as Hillary won.

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This is suspiciously absent from any right wing coverage

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of the group, but oh well.

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I mean, it's obvious why.

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Yeah.

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You know.

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Representatives from Disrupt J20 have

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said they knew that the person they were talking to

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was a Project Veritas plant, and they were just

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fucking with them.

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And that might be true.

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It might not be.

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But either way, this is not evidence of anyone

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planning an acid attack.

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Framing it that way only serves one purpose,

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and that is to exaggerate your side's victim status, which

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is really sad to see.

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There's a lot of stuff that just makes me real sad

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on this episode.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know, there's a lot.

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It's an interesting journey of, like, I'm bummed out.

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This is pathetic.

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And then, man, when we get to the end of this, look out.

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It's a weird feeling to be, I think,

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quite literally threatened with death by this radio

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host and his cohorts.

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Wait for that.

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Wait for those feelings to really develop.

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And then, at the same time, feel like they

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are so sad and pathetic that it's not worth my time.

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While at the same time, no, they are sad and pathetic,

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and they love guns.

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And the sadness and patheticness might only

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make it more dangerous for you.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So a lot of Paul Joseph Watson's appearance

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is about how this guy, the Lion of London Bridge,

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he is being sent to de-radicalization training

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and being put on a watch list in the UK.

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Oh, that's good.

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He's a dude who was the guy who, on London Bridge,

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and there was a knife attack going on,

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he charged the terrorist and committed an act of heroics.

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And this is an example of how the hero is

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being painted as the terrorist.

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Paul Joseph Watson has a lot of thoughts about that.

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Here's a little clip of it.

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You've got this royal honor who was

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the hero of the whole thing.

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Now he's being put on a terror watch list by the government,

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and he's being forced to attend de-radicalization classes.

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He says, quote, they treat me like a terrorist,

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but I'm not political at all.

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So he wasn't even political.

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And they've put him in this database.

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They've put him on this program.

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You know what a lot of shitheads like to say?

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I'm not political.

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Yeah, they seem to say that a lot.

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So it's interesting the way that Paul Joseph

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Watson's covering the story here about Roy Larner,

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the lion of London Bridge.

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While it is true that Roy did engage

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in what you could easily call a selfless act of heroics

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when he put himself in harm's way to charge a terrorist,

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it's absolutely unfair to say that the reason he may have

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been asked to get some sensitivity training

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is because he dared to say that the terrorist is

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Muslim, which is what Paul Joseph Watson's

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angle on the whole thing is.

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Also a small point, Paul Joseph Watson, in his appearance,

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says that Larner charged the terrorist yelling

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that he was British.

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Like, yeah, come on, you can't do this.

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I'm British.

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Yeah.

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But actually what he said is, fuck you on Millwall,

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referencing his favorite soccer club.

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Oh, OK, well good.

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Because he was drunk at a bar before the attack.

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I don't judge anybody for that.

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Me neither.

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Anyway, Roy Larner has a bit of a past to him.

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A couple of weeks before his actions on London Bridge,

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Larner was caught on camera spitting on a black photographer

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and yelling at him and calling him a foreign cunt who

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stinks like shit.

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For yelling, National Front, I'm part of them.

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Oh no, well then no.

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Then no, no, no, no, get out of here.

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Not political.

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Go back to Millwall, man.

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There were a lot of Reddit comments

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that I could find about discussing the situation.

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And they're like, oh my god, someone who likes Millwall

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is a piece of shit.

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These soccer rivalries are brutal.

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Also, after his altercation on the London Bridge,

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he decided to drop by his MP's office, Neil Coyne.

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I just wanted to go say hi and to tell him

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that Sadiq Khan is a piece of shit

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and that, quote, all Muslims are the same, scum.

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OK, all right, OK.

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Because of those two incidents, he was taken into court.

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And he admitted the first was racially aggravated

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and the second was religiously aggravated.

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He was sentenced to eight weeks, but the sentence

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was suspended, largely because of his high profile

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as a bit of a hero.

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He was, however, banned from dropping by his MP's office

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for two years.

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I like that.

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That's good.

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That's good advice.

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Don't come back.

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That's actually for his own good.

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Let's be honest.

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That's best for him.

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There's a trend about that that you're going to see develop.

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People trying to save him from himself.

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So this is a dude who is a member of the National Front

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who committed multiple instances of racial and religiously

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based assaults.

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According to British law, that is what he did.

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In the present day, he was found to be in communication

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with extremist groups.

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So the state put him on a watch list

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and made him go to de-radicalization treatment

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and training.

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And guess what?

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That's not the government encroaching on him,

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oppressing him either.

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Part of his plea deal and the whole racist Islamophobic

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outbursts case is that he had to undergo anger management

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and diversity awareness courses.

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And his sentence was then suspended for a year.

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That doesn't mean it went away.

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It was suspended for a year.

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That means if he reoffends within that year,

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his sentence is no longer suspended.

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Less than a year later, he was busted

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with half a pound of amphetamines,

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a charge which he again was spared jail time for given

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his status as a hero.

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He was given another suspended sentence,

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remanded to attend a rehab program, and that was that.

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Roy Lerner has been given a whole lot of chances,

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thanks to his status as a hero.

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And I think that might be healthy for society.

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I think it's possible.

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But that being said, make no mistake about it,

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what is happening now is him being given another chance.

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The idea of going to de-radicalization training

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and being watched is saving him from himself.

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This is not a punishment.

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We are really, look, this is us being

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really grateful to you.

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Yeah.

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We don't want to lock up someone that has a heroic image.

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And if you go down this path, teaming up

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with extremist groups with the tendencies

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that you've already shown, we're worried.

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We're going to have to put you, yeah.

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Oh, man, that so sucks.

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So I think giving him a lot of chances

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because he's a hero, like I said,

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I think that's probably healthy for society.

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But they're trying and going out of their way

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to save him from himself, which may not be healthy for society.

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Because eventually, the dam's going to break.

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God, that sucks so hard that you can be,

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like he's just a fucking Islamophobic monster

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who accidentally attacked at the right time.

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Like it's almost a coincidence that, it's

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like if he was trying to punch every Muslim that he ever

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saw, sooner or later one of them would be actually bad

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and then he'd be a hero.

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I mean, that's one way to look at it.

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Yeah.

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One of the problems with the right wing propagandists

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like Paul Joseph Watson is that their world

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and how they make their money doesn't allow for complexity.

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Everyone has to be all good or all bad.

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And that's just not realistic at all.

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Just like how some generally good people do

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bad, bad things sometimes, it's also the case

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that sometimes total pieces of shit

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rise to the levels of heroics when their mettle is tested.

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Staking everything on this guy always being in the right

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because one time he was drunk and fought the right people

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seems like a bad way to live.

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And from everything I can tell, it

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seems like Roy Larner is a piece of shit who just

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did something amazing one time.

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And it's something that I don't know

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if I would have the wherewithal to be able to do.

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I hope that should I be tested in such a way

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I would rise to the occasion, but I don't fucking know.

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Dude with knives slashing around, charging at him,

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I have no idea.

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I'm impressed by being able to do that.

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But now we've come to the point of the episode

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where everything goes wrong, Jordan.

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That was, so before we were doing good?

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Relatively.

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Oh, boy.

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So it's interesting.

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You know how the past and the present

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combine when we look at them?

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I hate you.

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You know who shows up?

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You say 1.6 million.

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No, no, no, no.

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You know who shows up on July 1?

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What's that?

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Stuart Rhodes.

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God damn it, Dan.

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Stuart Rhodes showed up on July 1,

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and he had some reminiscent things to say.

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President Trump is going to take decisive action right now.

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In addition to declaring an Antifa terrorist organization,

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he should go ahead and just federalize the National Guard

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and deploy them into both California and Oregon.

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And while he's there, not just press Antifa,

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but also start rounding up illegal aliens and supporting

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them using the National Guard, frankly.

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That's what he has to do.

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Absolutely.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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That's so fucked up.

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No, no, no, no, you can't say that.

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That's so fucked up.

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He can't say that.

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He's not supposed to believe that that's OK.

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Well, Alex obviously isn't supposed to be able,

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based on everything he believes, he

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should be against the idea of an executive, a president,

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federalizing the National Guard and taking them

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into states where the governor doesn't want

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them to be used for that purpose.

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That's against states' rights.

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That's opposed to literally everything he believes in.

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But he's for it now.

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Yep.

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So Stuart Rhodes is, first of all, I got to say,

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this drives me fucking crazy that he

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needs to change the battery on his smoke detector

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so it keeps beeping in the background.

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It's driving me nuts listening to this.

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Very small issue in terms of the interview and the problems

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that are here.

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Right, right, right, right.

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It's there.

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It's there.

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That's the issue, OK?

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Sure, sure, the content is awful.

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But you know, set design is important too.

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Yeah.

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Dogs barking in the background.

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Who are you?

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Larry Nichols is the only person that gets away with that.

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Yeah, what are we doing?

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And that's because he dropped an album.

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Yeah, oh god, I forgot about that.

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Bangers.

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So good, so good.

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So what Stuart is saying there in that last clip

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was enough to make me be like, oh god, oh god.

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We got the president, the head of the Oath Keepers,

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coming in and saying that Trump needs

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to declare a vaguely nebulously defined group of people

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who oppose fascism to be a terrorist group.

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And not only that, needs to federalize the National Guard,

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take them into two left-leaning states

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in order to militarily suppress this anti-fascist counter

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demonstration.

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Which again, has no centralized leadership.

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And while we're at it, find every illegal immigrant

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and kick them out of the country.

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Well, yeah, but that's just a bonus, you know?

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That's profoundly fucked up.

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Objective one and objective two, you're still going for one.

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That to me was like, well, I mean,

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that's what you'd expect a shithead to say.

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But it's fucking crazy to hear, like,

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and his delivery is so monotone and sort of blasé,

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so matter of fact, it's very fucked up.

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But it has nothing on what's to come.

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In his next clip, man, you can't get more fucked up than this.

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They just attacked a bunch of people with acid in Portland,

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and CNN's calling them heroes, and Fox

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is barely reporting it.

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I mean, this is crazy.

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It is, and so we should recognize

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we're already in a civil war.

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We talked about this before with Matt Brack,

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and we've been in a cold civil war for years.

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But the left, I believe, is ramping it up,

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and we should just go ahead and just pull the trigger on it

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now in the form of President Trump declaring what it is,

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and declaring an insurrection, and deploying the military

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on the border to seal it.

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And then internally, you should use a National Guard,

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and you should call on us, the retired military veterans

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out there in particular, and bring us in the service,

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too, as the militia.

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So on our last episode in 2013, we

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were discussing basically how Stuart Rhodes was coming in

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and making an appearance, and largely a lot of his rhetoric

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seemed to be about the idea of finding

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ways to justify being able to kill your political enemies.

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Now, six years later, what do we do

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on our very next episode?

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We find Stuart Rhodes coming in and arguing

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that Trump needs to make him and his buddies,

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the official militia, to go in and,

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with the tacit and explicit support of the state,

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go in and suppress the political activity of the people

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that they're opposed to.

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This is next level fucked up, not only in how fucked up

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it is, but in how it so confirms the things

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that we were talking about on the last episode.

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Yeah, I know.

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I don't like it.

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No.

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I feel like we just got, now I'm feeling

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like we're being dragged along by fate

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instead of in control of our own destiny, Dan.

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There does seem to be an invisible hand.

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This is really bumming me out.

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It doesn't bum me out.

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It kind of excites me in a certain way.

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I want control over my own destiny, Dan.

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I mean, I was telling you earlier,

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like before we started the show, that I could barely

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sleep last night.

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Part of the reason was, the stuff that he's saying,

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and what he continues to say, because it gets worse,

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what he's saying is so fucked up and so scary.

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The idea of anybody taking this seriously or agreeing with it

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or any of that, even if it's only, let's say, 2,000 people,

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that's terrifying.

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And it's more than 2,000 people.

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So that's terrifying.

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But then also, what Adam Carolla used

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to call the great magnet, the force that

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controls coincidences in the universe, where

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you take a step back and you're like, wow, that's weird.

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This is so weird to me.

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This is weird.

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This is very weird.

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Partially because when we recorded our last episode

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and I was editing, I'm like, am I being a little,

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am I too extreme about Stuart?

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Like, I know he's a fucking shithead,

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but am I jumping to conclusions that he's

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trying to create justifications and scenarios to kill people?

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Nope.

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He's dead on doing that.

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It was as if the universe came together to be like, nah, Dan,

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you're good.

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And he has to know what that implies

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for the rest of the country.

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Like, that is a suspension.

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No, no, not suspension.

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That is the end of democracy for Trump too.

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I don't think they care.

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I don't think they care either.

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I think that's the feature.

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That has to be what they're going for.

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Otherwise, they would never advocate for this.

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Oh, well, I mean, sure.

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Because if there was a peaceful transition of power, say,

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and your political enemy then had precedent

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that it's fine to organize and federalize the National Guard

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and send them in to find terrorist organizations,

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guess who the fuck they would be coming for?

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An actual terrorist organization.

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Right, right.

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They don't want that.

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So they can't want any transfer of power ever again.

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And I don't know if I can think of anybody associated

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with anti-fascist groups that have ever been caught

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making a napalm bomb.

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I can certainly think of a fucking oath keeper who did.

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So it's interesting that you're bringing that up,

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the idea of this being like, it's the end of democracy.

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Like I've said, I don't think they really give a shit.

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But I also think that they see our democracy

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and the way it's set up, the rules, the timing of it,

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as a necessary challenge that they need to get around.

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And what's happening is, as an advisor,

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they're telling him, well, you can't do this.

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You can't go after them.

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You can't go after the sanctuary cities or sanctuary states.

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You can't do any of these things

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or the country will explode.

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Well, let it explode.

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Let it explode now while he's commander in chief.

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Let's get it over with.

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Because otherwise, what's going to happen

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is they're going to steal the election.

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I mean, the judicial watch already came out

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and said at least a million and a half.

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I think it's pretty low.

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Million and a half illegal aliens voted in midterms.

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I think it's far higher than that.

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So I think it's a lot of them.

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No, that's just in California.

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They just won their lawsuit.

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In California, it's 1.5 million.

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That just broke judicialwatch.org.

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So what you got there is Stuart Rhodes saying

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that we need to do this while Trump is still

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in control of the military.

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Because that's our shot.

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That's the only chance we have of taking over.

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The way that this is being built up, the idea of like,

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we got to do it while Trump.

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It's best that we just do this while Trump is in charge.

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And if we don't, they're going to steal the election.

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It's them showing all their cards

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that they know that he's fucked in 2012.

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Or at least they believe that there's no way

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that he's going to win that election.

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Or at least they're insanely worried about that possibility.

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And this is the only way that they can guarantee

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that the train towards, I don't know, an ethno state,

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an illiberal state, certainly, is maintainable.

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Or their progress could be continued.

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They're preemptively justifying him not leaving.

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We'll get to that in a minute.

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So Judicial Watch didn't prove that millions of illegal votes

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were cast in California.

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This is Alex and Stuart repeating completely insane

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and not true talking points that Trump disseminated

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in his recent interview with Chuck Todd.

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All that Judicial Watch found was

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that there were as many as 1.59 million inactive voters

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on the California voter rolls.

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This has nothing to do with illegal votes being cast.

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There's no indication from anything

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that Judicial Watch put out that any of these people voted.

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These are just people who moved away.

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Or maybe they died and they never

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sent in a notice to take them off of voter rolls.

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Probably because literally no one ever does that.

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Presenting this as proof in any way

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that California admitted that they had millions or more

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illegal votes cast in any election is an absolute lie.

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These people are liars.

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And they're lying because they want to kill people.

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And they don't want to miss their chance.

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It's just not fair, Dan.

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It's not fair.

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I think that-

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Why are you guys doing this?

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Stop it.

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Stop it.

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Play by the rules and live in reality with the rest of us

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and stop trying to kill us.

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I know.

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There's part of me that is like, this is not true.

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But it's the way that my mind is wrapping itself

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around what's going on right now is like immediately following

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the loss of the Civil War.

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The people in the Confederate South kind of got together

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and were like, do you know what was the problem?

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We didn't take the military with us when we left.

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So what if we just had control of it

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and then tried to secede?

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That's silly and all that stuff.

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But it does have that feel of like,

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this is a group of people feeling

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like they have their chance to win the Civil War in 1865,

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finally.

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Yeah, no, it does feel that way.

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It really does.

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Yeah.

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So in this next clip, Alex does what he always does,

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which is express what he wants by saying

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that he doesn't want it.

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But he does want it, but it's someone else's fault.

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That it has to happen.

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Right.

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And I want to specifically get in to what you just

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said, because it's true.

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I don't want a violent revolution.

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I don't want to offensively launch anything.

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But when the left is terrorists, they're foreign funded,

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they say we don't believe in free speech.

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We're going to overthrow the government.

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We're going to kill our political opposition.

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And they're out there chemical attacking people.

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They're saying we're going to attack for the July parades.

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The mainstream media is promoting it.

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The borders are broken down.

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The leftist Congress won't act as blocking the president.

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We're already here.

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We've already been brought into this crisis.

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So it's Antifa's fault. It's the left's fault.

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I don't want this violence, but now I've got to do it.

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Right.

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Cool.

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So this next clip, Alex gets into what

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is going to happen in his conception.

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And just for a little bit of a heads up,

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I did write in the description of this clip,

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this is so fucked up.

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Trump's in now.

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Imagine if Hillary was in.

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Imagine if they assassinate him.

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Imagine.

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And again, we're going to win this physical civil war.

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But I predict it's going to kill millions.

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They're going to start the fight.

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We're going to defend ourselves.

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They've already been punching us to the nose.

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They're going to label as terrorists.

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They're going to order Blue City police to come after us.

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And then it's all going to kick off.

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And it's going to be Katy by the door.

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And then they're going to call it a race war.

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They're going to trick a lot of folks into a race war.

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And the country is going to descend into a black hole.

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It's going to descend into a warlord state

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for several years.

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I would predict at least five years.

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And the Blue Cities will starve to death.

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We're going to have to quarantine those cities.

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And we need to, let's talk about,

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is there time to turn it around?

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But let's work in the scenarios of having

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to quarantine the Blue Cities as the best

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move during the Civil War.

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Are you doing coke?

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And we know Trump's got the military for now

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and what the real divides are in the Civil War.

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Is this coke talking?

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It's time to really be honest about all this.

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It's time to be really honest.

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I'm going to be really honest.

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I've never heard Alex sound more giddy and excited

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than talking about starving a city of people,

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quarantining Blue City.

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They're going to starve.

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We've got to quarantine those cities.

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We've got to quarantine them.

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It's going to be warlords for five years.

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Like the fantasizing, you think it's cocaine.

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I think it's just giddiness.

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I mean, I think it's excitement.

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He sounds like he's thrilled about the idea of terrorizing

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millions of people, starving them to death in cities

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where you keep them in at gunpoint.

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Right.

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Did he steal all of this from Charles Manson?

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I'm pretty sure that's what Manson was

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saying was going to happen.

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I know that Alex does think this is coming down fast.

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Yeah.

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Jesus.

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Helter Skelter, man.

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Ba da da da da da da.

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So I know that Stuart has already kind of referenced

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this, but in this next clip, they

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talk about how this has got to happen soon,

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because Trump isn't, you know, like his term ends in 2020.

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We have to do this when Trump is in charge.

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And it's going to kick off.

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Of course, the thing that's back to your mind

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is, well, if we do any of these things,

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if he deploys the military on the border,

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he sends the National Guard out there and federalizes them

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and has them go around and round up illegal aliens,

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then it will cause a revolution or cause a civil war

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in this country.

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Well, so be it.

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The left is going to go kinetic, let

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it happen while Trump is commander

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in chief of the US military.

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So he's saying that if Trump does these things

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or he federalizes the National Guard and starts ethnically

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cleansing the country, which is what he just described,

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more or less, in, you know, not as many words, maybe.

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But yeah, who rounded up people, Dan?

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I know one guy, used to use it to sell oil paintings.

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Yeah, on the Boston boardwalk.

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Yeah.

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But he's saying that if they do that,

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then the left is going to start a civil war, so fucking

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let's do it.

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Right.

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So somehow he compares it to, like,

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when you're feeling sick and you just got to throw up,

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go ahead and throw up.

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You'll feel better afterwards.

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But they're talking about a fucking civil war.

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Right, and they're describing it as a self-defensive war,

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even though, literally, it is an offensive war from Trump.

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Like, they're just advocating a coup.

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That's bullshit.

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He's just federalizing the National Guard

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and kicking a bunch of people out of the country.

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And then Antifa gets really mad about that,

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and they offensively start, shut the fuck up.

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Chicken and egg.

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But he's the one.

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Chicken and egg.

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All right.

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But, like, atrocities are bad?

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Sure.

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I'm not going to disagree with that.

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But you're the one.

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Chicken and egg.

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OK.

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So you, tough to figure out how to phrase this, so you,

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in the past, have expressed ideas

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that a lot of Trump people probably wouldn't accept him

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losing in the 2020 election.

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Right.

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And my position on that is I think that you're

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being a little extreme.

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Because I have lived through Alex's rhetoric,

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and I know that that was what he was saying about Obama

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at the end of his second term.

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It's kind of a sensational claim that people make that I

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think is kind of unfounded.

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I'm looking forward to your hammer.

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Well, you and I are both bad at predicting things.

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And I do think that that's a dangerous prediction to make.

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I think it's unfair, generally speaking.

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And I still do, for the most part.

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Yeah.

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Except when we're talking about Stuart Rhodes.

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There we go.

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Because he very explicitly, in this next clip,

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is saying that, yeah, me and my friends,

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we're not going to accept the results of the 2020 election.

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Seems like it.

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And I think that if they were to do this and steal the election,

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I think the political right in this country

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will not accept the results.

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We'll be in a civil war anyway.

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So you might as well just, it's kind of like being sick

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and you need to throw up, right?

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You just stick your finger down your throat

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and get it over with now so that you're not as bad off later.

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Cute analogy.

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So I mean, if you have already used this Judicial Watch

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bullshit to lie to prove that everyone's going to steal

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an election, then no matter what, if Trump loses,

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you're going to say it was stolen.

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And now you've already framed it that if the election is

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stolen, based on my definition of that,

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a civil war is going to break out.

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We're going to start a civil war if Trump loses the election.

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So we might as well do it now.

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All of this is Stuart Rhodes arguing, if not now, when?

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Yep.

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There is no time like the present for a civil war.

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Start killing.

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Everybody, open season.

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But here's the thing.

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It's preemptive because he knows that eventually Antifa

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is going to kill somebody.

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And Andy was struck with, as you said before,

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cups full of concrete.

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So this is actually lethal force.

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And eventually, Antifa is going to kill somebody.

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Fa has already killed somebody.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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You forget about Charlottesville.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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They didn't do that.

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Oh, OK.

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That was, look, it was mental illness, Dan.

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He was, you know, he was on Prozac, Dan.

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He was, he was, it's not, he was a lone actor, Dan.

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I understand that.

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But at the same time, if you're going to make this argument

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and you're, like, he's all, in that he's even lying

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about the concrete nonsense.

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Right.

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The idea that, like, eventually they're

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going to kill somebody.

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So we've got to take care of this.

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Flip that logic around.

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One of your guys killed somebody already.

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Yeah.

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Well, they're not afraid of it because they have all the guns.

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So, buddy, come on.

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What are you saying?

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Yep.

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So in this next clip, Stuart Rhodes

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quotes Tim Pool about something, and it

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makes a very dumb point.

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Tim Pool was saying that what this is is Antifa

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is an identitarian white movement.

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He's right.

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It's almost predominantly, like, 99% white.

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It's young white liberals who've been conditioned,

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like a zombie invasion, basically,

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to hate their own country.

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And they hate it with, you know, and so they'll

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fight to the death.

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As I said before on your show, they'll

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fight to the death believing that they're

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being killed by Nazis.

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When us veterans get up and take them the task

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and beat them and kill them in the streets in the Civil War,

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they will die believing with all their hearts

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that they're fighting Nazis like their grandparents did in the.

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And let me stop you there.

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That's profound.

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I mean.

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That is profoundly fucked up.

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Yeah.

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When I heard that clip the first time,

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listening through, my heart fluttered.

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Like, I got a real sense of holy shit.

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I can't believe we've reached a point where

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someone who is the head of an organization of people

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who have had domestic terrorists within their ranks.

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Absolutely.

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The guy who is the head of the Oath Keepers

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feels comfortable coming on a program,

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talking about how we got to do a civil war,

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so we might as well do it now.

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And then talking about, with a blasé indifference almost,

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the idea of killing people in the streets.

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When we kill them in the streets,

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they'll think that they were fighting against fascists.

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Do you hear yourself?

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I don't understand.

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OK, now I get what you're saying.

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I get you're saying that that sounds like something

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a fascist would say.

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I get it.

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I get why you would think that when

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I say that they will regret it whenever we're murdering

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them in the streets for their political beliefs.

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I just can't believe it.

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That does sound fascist.

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But have you, let me give you a quote by Thomas Jefferson.

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Let me quote.

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Go ahead and fuck them up.

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Yeah, I cannot believe that that is acceptable in any way.

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And I can't believe that I haven't

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heard media covering this.

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Yeah, right.

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Granted, it's only July 2nd as we're recording this,

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but that's the day after this came out.

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I have not heard anybody saying, well, Stuart Rhodes

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is casually discussing starting a civil war immediately

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and giving graphic fantasies about murdering people

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in the streets.

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It is so crazy.

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How many people are members of Oath Keepers?

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How many people, it's terrifying.

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It is legitimately terrifying to hear this.

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Especially when part of that, like what

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he was really saying there.

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And he hit it really, really close.

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But when he's talking about how Antifa is mostly young

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and white, he said, hate their own country.

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And it's like, what you meant was hate their own kind.

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There is a piece of that.

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That is what he meant all the way.

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There's also a deep irony.

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All the way.

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There's a sad, sad irony of him being like,

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they're a young white identitarian movement,

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unlike my old white identitarian movement.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, right.

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Get bent, old man.

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Yeah.

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The fuck out of here.

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So in this next clip, we come back to Earth a little bit

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and we realize Alex is still first and foremost Alex Jones.

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But this is it.

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This is the second American Revolution.

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We're fighting back, and I'm going

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to give you some inside baseball next segment with Stuart

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and our next guest comes on, but listen,

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I need financial support.

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All right.

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It's always, it always, all roads lead to Rome,

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as they say, you know?

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So in this next clip, I think we just get more Stuart Rhodes

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being real fucked up.

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But we want to make sure that the president gets a message

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from the military, from his current serving

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and retired military, that he has

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to act as commander in chief.

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He must deploy the military on the border.

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He must call on the federal service,

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all the National Guard units of the states,

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and put them on the border, or even better,

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put them to work backing up eyes to go and round up

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the illegal aliens who are going to be the voting

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block for the Democrats.

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Even better.

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If he does not do this and do this now,

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then we're done politically.

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The political solution window will have shut.

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It will shut on 2020.

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No, you're right.

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God gave us a chance with Trump, and we don't all

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execute right now.

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I mean, the Democrats admit, we're bringing in a group

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to outvote you, it's over, and we're

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going to bring in communism.

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So the country will be gone.

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This is how we get conquered.

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So what's great here, and I think

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that it's what Alex does all the fucking time,

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because if some media is to cover him a little bit,

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not very carefully, they might say

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that Alex is saying the Civil War needs

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to start immediately.

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Whereas what's really going on is

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Stuart Rhodes is very explicitly saying that,

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and then Alex is very carefully agreeing with him.

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But that's what's going on.

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Yeah, Alex is all things considered

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acquitting himself fairly OK and not

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committing any explicit crimes.

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Strongly disagreeing.

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No, no, I mean in not explicitly committing a crime.

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I think agreeing with Stuart is like,

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it's tantamount to saying it yourself.

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I understand that there's a difference probably legally

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and factually, but intention-wise and meaning

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behind your words, I don't think there's a relevant difference.

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I agree.

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So in this next clip, which is the last one

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we have of Stuart, and then we just have one palate cleanser

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afterwards, they discuss, Alex and Stuart

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discuss how it's not just Antifa that's going

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to get killed in the streets.

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Well, that's comforting?

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I don't think it is.

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Oh, OK.

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And everybody I know is just, they're like, tell us, Alex,

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when we stop paying taxes and we start doing whatever we want

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and we start going after people.

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And by the way, my listeners aren't dumb.

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They're not dumb.

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People aren't going to go find Antifa.

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We're going to, I don't want this to happen,

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but I hope all the politicians and bureaucrats and people

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know, Santa Claus has been making a list.

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This is unintended consequences.

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The idea that politicians are also going to get it.

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Well, they need to understand that when you go into a warfare

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like that, a civil war, it's going to be,

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their entire command and control is going to include them being,

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you know, it's going to include the journalists.

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It's going to include the leftist journalists who

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are pushing their propaganda.

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This is something that happens in every civil war.

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And that's why they've been pre-preparing

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that Trump's attacking journalists,

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even though they're attacking him and causing a civil war.

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They want to cause the war and then make themselves victims

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when they get in big trouble.

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They're really playing with fire.

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They got a tiger by the tail.

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Thank you, Stuart Rhodes.

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Great job.

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Great job.

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I am sickened by this.

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I am absolutely sickened by this rhetoric being put out,

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even by someone I hate.

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I don't understand how anybody in good conscience

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can do a show like this.

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Like the idea that you can start with this excessively

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over-the-top propaganda lie about chemical weapons

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and milkshakes, and then have Stuart Rhodes on your show

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to use what you've built in the first hour and a half

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of the show or so to come in and advocate for a civil war

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that we might as well fucking do now.

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And by the way, we're going to kill journalists too.

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And they asked for it, because they're

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the ones who are saying Trump's attacking them when they're

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really starting the civil war.

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It's insanely fucked up.

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If people take this seriously, the danger

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of an appearance like this, an interview like this,

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it gets impossible to overstate.

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I pray that nothing happens.

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I pray that no one is inspired to action by this.

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But these sorts of things make me really worried

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that Alex is trying to manifest the predictions that he's

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making about the 4th of July parades and 4th of July

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rallies.

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He's trying to get people in a mind state

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where it is trigger happy time.

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It's already the revolution.

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And if the revolution is going to kick off,

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it better well shot her around the world happening

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on the 4th of July.

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Perfect.

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Why not?

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It's the stuff of books and movies.

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Absolutely.

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It's the stuff of movies.

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It's dangerous.

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This is so dangerous.

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I don't know if it's illegal, but man, it feels like it.

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It should be.

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Fucking feels like it.

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God, do you know who explained best

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what it is he's trying to do?

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Him, whenever he's described what the left is trying to do.

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We keep coming back to that.

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They're trying to start a war, but then

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say that they're the victims of the war,

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so they justify their war.

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Jesus Christ, man.

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It's a pretty consistent, far right strategy

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that's happened for decades.

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So fucking unfair.

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It is.

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Speaking of unfair, what happens after this

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is Alex has an interview with Soph.

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I don't know if you've heard of her,

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but she's a racist 14-year-old who does YouTube videos.

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And this podcast will never cover

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her appearances on the show.

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I think it's a disgrace to cover it.

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I think it's beneath us, quite frankly.

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And I have no interest in spending my time critiquing

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the political views of someone who's still in high school.

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There is something really disgraceful

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about Alex doing the show that he does,

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and then having a 14, 15-year-old

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who says horrible things on his show as if she's an expert.

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Like, in the middle of the interview,

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she's complaining about her principle.

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It's like, I-

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That's not real.

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It is.

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No, that's not real.

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I just don't know what to do with that.

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And so we're not going to cover it.

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And it's not some sort of like, I don't know how to put it,

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but I just can't, I don't think I could deal with my feelings

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that I would have about us spending any time on that.

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So it is what it is.

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It happened.

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And I'm not talking about it.

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I don't think I can handle it even just physically

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from a whiplash situation.

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It's like, OK, if Johnny Carson had gerbils on,

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and then his next guest was a dog trainer,

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and the dog can do little flips, I just

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wouldn't be able to handle it.

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I think that's not analogous.

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Maybe it's a racist dog that can do flips.

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A little better.

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There we go.

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And I wouldn't even bring it up today,

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but it's not the first time that she's been on.

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Jesus Christ.

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I didn't talk about it before because I

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felt like it was something that was best just ignored.

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But I mean, it looks like she's going

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to be a part of his stable now.

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So I feel like I'll bring it up that it happened,

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but not getting into it.

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Man, if being a regular child star fucks up your life,

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imagine being a racist 14-year-old YouTube child star.

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That's a big part of it, too, is the idea of I don't think.

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As terrible as a number of the things I've seen of her say,

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I don't feel like it's right for me as a 35-year-old

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to take seriously the political views of a 14-year-old.

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Yeah.

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Or to be like, to imagine that they

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are going to remain the same.

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In the same way that, like, should I

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be mad at those two girls who are in a neo-Nazi band,

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Lion and Lynx?

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Should I be mad at them?

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I don't know.

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They grew up and they're not Nazis anymore.

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Yeah.

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I don't know what the right thing to do is,

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and I just don't feel good about anything.

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Yeah.

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So anyway, she's on.

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Who cares?

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Now we have one last clip, though, because of Jordan.

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Yeah.

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In much the same way that I have avoided

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your ideas about Trump's not going to step down.

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I have also resisted the urge to think

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that Alex listens to our show.

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However, on this episode, Alex brings up something

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that we've heard him talk a lot about in 2013,

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but not so much in the present.

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Is there a dead dog coming up again?

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There's not a dead dog, but it's something very specific.

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When I heard this, I was like, Alex 100% listens to our show.

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There is no way he doesn't listen to our show.

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There's a subservience, and they think

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they're on the winning team.

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He's talking about liberals who go to college and get degrees.

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OK.

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You've got two or three college degrees that

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are worthless by design.

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And then the system, once it catches you in a scam,

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like a Nigerian scam, they give you $1,000

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because you're going to get $100,000.

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They go, oh, Prince of Boo-Boo needs $10,000 now,

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but you're going to get $1 million.

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And once you've already invested $20,000 in the scam,

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you're supposed to get $10 million from Prince Boo-Boo

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or whatever his name is.

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These people will tell their family, no, you're jealous.

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I'm getting money from Prince Boo-Boo.

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And then they'll have a Nigerian fly over here,

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get on a Greyhound bus.

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This happens to people I know.

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Come to their house in a Prince outfit, but they have no money,

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and they have a one-week visa.

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And then families break up, and people's wives run off.

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Their husbands run off going, no, the Prince is here.

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I hit the jackpot.

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So it's the same thing.

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And then they'll sign their house over to them.

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Because now the Prince is going to give them a billion.

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And they can never admit they got conned,

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so the left keeps doubling down, betting.

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They're like compulsive gamblers,

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believing they're finally going to be the ruling class.

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Their degrees are finally going to work.

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Once Bernie Sanders or Hillary takes over,

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she'll give them places in the whole economy.

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I'm so glad to have you as a listener, Alex.

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If you're listening, you should be deeply ashamed of yourself.

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Please become a policy wonk anyways.

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I'm very.

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You know what?

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There are people who have donated

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under the name Alex Jones.

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That's true.

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That's how impossible it is.

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In a perverse way, he's really hoping we take him down.

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I mean, obviously, I don't think this proves that he listens.

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But man, this is so fucked up.

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Where did that come from?

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Where did that come from?

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We literally talked about it fucking yesterday.

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How dare you?

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But we also talked about it the episode before that.

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Like, we've talked about it in the last three episodes.

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You're right.

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Because he won't stop talking about it in 2013.

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And now he's in 2019.

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2019.

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He takes a day off of it, a couple of days off of his show.

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Just so happens one of our episodes

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drops on a day when he's not there.

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Listen, I want to get back to this Nigerian email scam

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that I definitely didn't get tricked by.

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It's totally, definitely not him.

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100% totally, definitely not him.

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So Alex, we're thrilled that you're part of the Knowledge

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Fight team.

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You're part of the, I mean, I noticed our,

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you know, our numbers are going up.

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And I assume it's because you're forcing all of your staff

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to listen to our show, to remember

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pieces of your rhetoric from years past

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that you've forgotten about.

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Or maybe you're trying to remember

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what you said about Sandy Hook in anticipation

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of the lawsuit.

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Oh, man.

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I wonder if Patis is listening to our show just as like,

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I hope it's him or not Barnes.

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Ooh, if it's Barnes, we're in trouble.

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I don't want Barnes listening.

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Barnes, turn it off.

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Get out of here, Barnes.

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Bad work, Barnes.

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It's just mind-blowing, this roller coaster of a day,

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like this one episode, just like fucking irresponsible nonsense

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leading to the Civil War starting,

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let's kill people in the streets,

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and then fucking the return of Prince Wabubi.

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I don't know.

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I just don't understand.

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I don't know, man.

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It's mind-blowing.

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Anyway, I think Alex, I don't know,

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this is a real difficult area.

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Like I don't know where you draw the line in terms

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of like harm deterrence, but I think

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allowed to continue at the rate he's going

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and the trajectory he's going, he's going to get people killed.

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I don't think there's any way around it.

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I don't know how much that fits in

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with a robust, societally useful version of free speech.

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But man, I don't, whenever things do, if things go bad,

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it's important to remember that Alex made them worse.

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That's a very important piece of this that is very clear.

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So look, I don't know how to end this episode.

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I don't at all.

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It was an emotional wreck trying to get this all prepared.

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And I'm glad it's over-ish, or at least

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I'm glad the episode's done.

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So I hate this.

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I hate this shit.

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I mean, I like doing the show, but I hate

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that his show in the present day exists like this.

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I want the episodes where he's, even

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if he's still going to probably get some people in Green Bank

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hurt down in West Virginia, I want that, Alex.

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I want those episodes where he's yelling about a telescope

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and how there's no phones.

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That's fine.

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Episodes where you have Stuart Rhodes

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and talking about the Civil War has to start before Trump

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leaves office because he's going to lose the election

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and we can't accept that result, and then we

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won't have an opportunity to appear to be in the right

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when we start killing people.

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Exactly.

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It's just socially useless.

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It's corrosive.

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It's dangerous.

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I think it's probably, if not a crime, it should be.

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Like what he just did should be a crime.

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It doesn't belong on the air.

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I'll tell you that.

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This belongs on a YouTube channel with eight subscribers.

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This sort of rhetoric.

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Yeah, I don't know if it belongs anywhere.

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Anyway.

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That's fucked up, man.

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But you make your own conclusions.

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And to quote our friend Lionel, comment, as you see fit.

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Lionel.

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That's the only way I can figure it out.

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It's the only way I can spin out of this.

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And that should be a heartbreak in the theme song plays.

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And that's just the end of the show.

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So we'll be back on Friday.

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Hopefully, the world doesn't end on the 4th.

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It'll be nice.

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It'll be nice.

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Well, we'll be recording.

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So if the world ends, you'll at least get a recording of us

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screaming, I guess?

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I don't know.

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We might have to do a real late night recording.

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We'll see what happens.

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But we'll be back with something on Friday.

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And until then, we have a website.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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And indeed, we do.

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We're on Twitter also.

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Yeah.

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It's knowledge underscore fight and go to bed Jordan.

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We're also on Facebook.

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We are on Facebook.

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You can also download the podcast on iTunes.

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You could rate, leave a review.

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You could share the episode.

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You could go to KOA sites.

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Usually, a lot of people there like to share

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podcast recommendations.

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So we'd prefer if you go to a KOA as soon as you can.

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Just kind of mingle.

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That's our new marketing strategy.

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Sure.

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I think that's a good way to go.

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Yep.

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So as we get to the end of this, I

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would say that milkshakes didn't kill anybody.

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But one guy who technically probably has is Alex Jones.

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.