Transcript/293: May 2-3, 2019

Warning: Bot Generated Content
This transcript was automatically generated by transcription software and likely contains many mistakes and misattributions. Please check the audio for definitive quotes, attribution, and context.

Unknown Speaker (00:00:00.000)

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding

Unknown Speaker (00:00:03.839)

Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight

Unknown Speaker (00:00:09.480)

I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed

Unknown Speaker (00:00:15.000)

We are Dan. Yeah, Dan Jordan. How do you feel about public displays of affection otherwise known as PDA?

Unknown Speaker (00:00:22.879)

I think that there's a scale and there's a context that should go into consideration

Unknown Speaker (00:00:28.559)

All right, I think that if you're like making out hard a half a second base and groping in public

Unknown Speaker (00:00:34.439)

I think that's kind of gross right of course also if you're drunk

Unknown Speaker (00:00:37.679)

I kind of give you a little bit of a pass you give you get a pass not a full pass

Unknown Speaker (00:00:42.320)

Okay

Unknown Speaker (00:00:42.679)

I think you can fudge a little bit of the boundaries in terms of what like if a drunk people are making out and getting

Unknown Speaker (00:00:48.560)

Handsy with each other in public. Yeah, I I judge that less harshly. Okay sober

Unknown Speaker (00:00:53.840)

So I'll say that because of certain inhibitions being lessened

Unknown Speaker (00:00:58.920)

Yeah, I can I can give you a little bit of a I get what you're doing. I'm not too mad at you

Unknown Speaker (00:01:03.320)

Whatever you get overcome by the spirit forget people around you, right?

Unknown Speaker (00:01:08.799)

Generally, I think that you know, you're gonna be kissing kissing in public. No big deal. Mm-hmm is what it is

Unknown Speaker (00:01:14.079)

I don't know. I I would say here's what I'd say. Okay, I would say it's totally fine

Unknown Speaker (00:01:19.319)

If you're gonna have some light public displays of affection, and I think people judging too harshly about that

Unknown Speaker (00:01:24.480)

I don't know why they have a problem right it like the people who are mad about hand-holding

Unknown Speaker (00:01:30.359)

There's a point at which it becomes like this is your personal world right like you like people

Unknown Speaker (00:01:36.560)

Who use their intimate partners pet names in public like that sort of thing? It's that's fine. You know, it's not it's not fine

Unknown Speaker (00:01:43.640)

I don't think so. You don't think that's why no, I think okay. I think it's really weird

Unknown Speaker (00:01:47.000)

Okay, because it like it's letting something that's private be public or and it's it's not that that

Unknown Speaker (00:01:55.040)

Private thing can't be public. Okay, it's that you're forcing everyone in public to engage with you in that private space

Unknown Speaker (00:02:02.319)

I see what you're saying. I just I think that there's something a little bit inappropriate about that

Unknown Speaker (00:02:06.700)

I see what you're saying, but it's a matter of scale and if you're drunk, it's totally fine

Unknown Speaker (00:02:10.219)

I

Unknown Speaker (00:02:14.659)

Will do there we have it the official male knowledge fight editorial position

Unknown Speaker (00:02:23.539)

And I know a lot about I only know what you tell me about both apparently people have been asking about plant update

Unknown Speaker (00:02:30.219)

So I figure I should go ahead and let everyone know watch 2019

Unknown Speaker (00:02:33.659)

I have sent out for some super hot pepper seeds and so I'll be getting some Trinidad scorpion

Unknown Speaker (00:02:39.780)

We've been chocolate boot loss. All right

Unknown Speaker (00:02:42.580)

So that will be coming next those both sounds care botanical garden. I don't understand them

Unknown Speaker (00:02:47.419)

But also in terms of everything that's growing right now

Unknown Speaker (00:02:50.340)

We got all the peppers that I have started or gone going real strong. Yeah, the peas are going real strong

Unknown Speaker (00:02:56.659)

They're going gangbusters. I've gotten a warning from some people on Facebook that

Unknown Speaker (00:03:01.460)

Tomatoes are a risky mistress

Unknown Speaker (00:03:03.900)

Oh that they too tall they grow real big too tall. They become overwhelming. Yeah, and I'm excited to announce that they're not doing so great

Unknown Speaker (00:03:15.939)

Where they are a problem, right and all the flowers I planted are doing pretty shit

Unknown Speaker (00:03:21.500)

Caesar would never have crossed the Rubicon if his horse had been cut off at the legs perhaps not

Unknown Speaker (00:03:26.060)

Yeah, so that's what's going on with my plants. I'll let you know

Unknown Speaker (00:03:30.020)

As more developments come I like it Jordan today. We are going over a hotly anticipated episode of this podcast and that is

Unknown Speaker (00:03:38.219)

January 12th

Unknown Speaker (00:03:40.020)

2013 everybody let's do it. We're doing that one again

Unknown Speaker (00:03:44.259)

No, we are doing May 2nd and 3rd of 2019 last week the day and the day after right

Unknown Speaker (00:03:52.099)

Alex Jones got kicked off Instagram

Unknown Speaker (00:03:54.099)

Along with Paul Joseph Watson also getting kicked off Facebook, and it's a pretty severe ban. Yeah, generally speaking

Unknown Speaker (00:04:01.300)

I don't like to have any advanced knowledge of Alex Jones

Unknown Speaker (00:04:05.060)

When the fucking president tweets that Alex Jones should be back on Facebook. I'm out to be fair

Unknown Speaker (00:04:10.840)

I think most of the president's tweets are about Paul Joseph

Unknown Speaker (00:04:16.540)

I don't know if I think the balls. I think Alex will take it. Yeah, it's good enough

Unknown Speaker (00:04:21.699)

He's taking a lot of clothes enough for jazz as they say and we're gonna get to those two days

Unknown Speaker (00:04:27.060)

There's a lot of really fucked up stuff

Unknown Speaker (00:04:28.939)

And I actually honestly think that there's two pieces of this story that people are entirely missing and they could get very easily

Unknown Speaker (00:04:35.779)

If they'd listen to Alex's show, but I totally understand why they don't so that's why we're here

Unknown Speaker (00:04:41.339)

It's so weird to read that stuff now like compared to before we started this show

Unknown Speaker (00:04:46.600)

I'm reading all of these articles now about Alex Jones, and I'm just going like you guys have no fucking clue, right?

Unknown Speaker (00:04:53.839)

You have no idea little added context could make this

Unknown Speaker (00:04:57.720)

Make a whole lot more sense

Unknown Speaker (00:04:58.920)

Like I hope we will be able to do with this story and we'll get to that after we say

Unknown Speaker (00:05:03.519)

Thank you some people who have joined up and are supporting the show. We really appreciate it. So first Emily

Unknown Speaker (00:05:08.860)

Thank you so much. You are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you Emily. Thank you Emily next Jesse

Unknown Speaker (00:05:14.839)

You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you Jesse next will thank you so much

Unknown Speaker (00:05:20.759)

You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Well, thank you will Willie willow next bucket of poop

Unknown Speaker (00:05:27.360)

Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much bucket

Unknown Speaker (00:05:31.920)

Thanks bucket of poop

Unknown Speaker (00:05:33.040)

But it is I feel poor for him because if you would have been a globalist you would have gotten the bucket of poop

Unknown Speaker (00:05:38.199)

That's true. That's true. That's poor form and you can only donate for so long sooner or later

Unknown Speaker (00:05:43.000)

a sodomite is going to say

Unknown Speaker (00:05:47.480)

Jen also, thank you so much. You are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Jen

Unknown Speaker (00:05:52.240)

Thank you, Jen, and then finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated low

Unknown Speaker (00:05:56.279)

We appreciate it very much. So Benjamin. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk

Unknown Speaker (00:06:05.360)

Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark

Unknown Speaker (00:06:08.560)

Ah jar jar Binks has a Caribbean black

Unknown Speaker (00:06:14.399)

He's a loser little little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ

Unknown Speaker (00:06:20.959)

Thank you so much Benjamin. Thank you very much Benjamin. Oh if you're out there listening and you're thinking hey

Unknown Speaker (00:06:25.319)

I like this show

Unknown Speaker (00:06:25.980)

I'd like to support with these gents do you can do that by going to our website knowledge fight calm clicking that button that

Unknown Speaker (00:06:30.660)

Says support the show we would appreciate it

Unknown Speaker (00:06:33.160)

So Jordan today, like I said, we're going over May 2nd and 3rd. There's some fucked up stuff in here

Unknown Speaker (00:06:38.240)

Yeah, stupid stuff in here and there's some weird trends that I'd like to try and disentangle

Unknown Speaker (00:06:42.920)

Yeah, but before we actually get into that instead of an out-of-context drop. Are you all right?

Unknown Speaker (00:06:48.439)

We got a new wrinkle. What I'd like to do is play you an entire commercial that out

Unknown Speaker (00:06:53.120)

There's a new commercial. Oh, no put your mic down for this because you gotta enjoy the nuance the do hot

Unknown Speaker (00:06:59.600)

Yes, okay. This is one of the craziest things I've ever heard on Alex's show. I want to say brainforce is great

Unknown Speaker (00:07:05.920)

I want to say turbo force is amazing. It is but if you took it with fish oil

Unknown Speaker (00:07:10.920)

It's like the fish oil is it the fish oil is better than that

Unknown Speaker (00:07:14.579)

And that's an example of what I'm talking about fish oil is liquid energy

Unknown Speaker (00:07:19.319)

Body hard the cleanest the best out there. You've got the children's you've got the adults got the krill oil

Unknown Speaker (00:07:25.199)

I get the full effect the fish oil and the children's are really strong

Unknown Speaker (00:07:28.720)

They don't give you the burpees but krill oils is the best it'll give you the damn burps

Unknown Speaker (00:07:32.480)

I'm sorry. You want something like this? You don't get stuff for free. The krill is hallucinogenic. It's so good in my view

Unknown Speaker (00:07:38.480)

I'm not a human medical statement here

Unknown Speaker (00:07:39.800)

But let me tell you something and I eat five tablets of krill oil before I go to bed

Unknown Speaker (00:07:43.360)

I'm seeing Santa Claus that night

Unknown Speaker (00:07:46.560)

So your brain is made basically out of what fish oil is

Unknown Speaker (00:07:53.959)

So we don't make a big profit off of it

Unknown Speaker (00:07:56.240)

But you know as I just obsessed cuz whatever the best is we've got I just can't lie to you

Unknown Speaker (00:08:00.120)

I just can't do it. That is an insane commercial and that is the end of the commercial

Unknown Speaker (00:08:04.480)

It's him screaming about how he can't lie to you. That was an insane career

Unknown Speaker (00:08:08.959)

I don't know why he's at the beginning five tablets of krill oil. He's he's gonna

Unknown Speaker (00:08:13.959)

Santa Claus when he goes to bed, that's insane

Unknown Speaker (00:08:16.699)

Why are you selling me on that unless if you want me to take five pallets and get fucked up?

Unknown Speaker (00:08:21.740)

You freak out. Oh god, fish oil makes me fucking trip balls

Unknown Speaker (00:08:26.740)

I don't know why he's trying to perv me out at the beginning about like

Unknown Speaker (00:08:30.779)

Oh, fish oil is the best

Unknown Speaker (00:08:34.340)

Yeah, and then that hallucinogenic aspect it gives you the burpees. I don't fucking know what's going on

Unknown Speaker (00:08:39.179)

I don't know if this is a selling point

Unknown Speaker (00:08:41.179)

That one will definitely give you the burps?

Unknown Speaker (00:08:44.179)

And towards the end there he says that fish oil is basically what your brain is made of

Unknown Speaker (00:08:50.179)

Yes, yes, that is true

Unknown Speaker (00:08:52.179)

To which I had to, I heard that, I immediately had to get in touch with my doctor friend, Dr. Gums

Unknown Speaker (00:08:56.179)

Yes

Unknown Speaker (00:08:57.179)

And check in with him and he almost got mad at me on the phone

Unknown Speaker (00:09:03.179)

Because I started doing a bit where I pretended that I believed that fish oil was what your brain is made of

Unknown Speaker (00:09:09.179)

And he's a practicing doctor. He doesn't have time for my bullshit

Unknown Speaker (00:09:13.179)

That's true. Was it during operating hours?

Unknown Speaker (00:09:15.179)

It might have been. And it turns out that that is not accurate. Your brain is not made up of basically fish oil

Unknown Speaker (00:09:21.179)

He's wrist deep in somebody saving their life and he has to answer this test

Unknown Speaker (00:09:25.179)

Honestly, more important that he help fact check this podcast

Unknown Speaker (00:09:28.179)

I think that's true

Unknown Speaker (00:09:29.179)

Quite frankly

Unknown Speaker (00:09:30.179)

I really

Unknown Speaker (00:09:31.179)

Cry-oratized

Unknown Speaker (00:09:32.179)

I mean for posterity, that person's going to die eventually but this lasts forever

Unknown Speaker (00:09:35.179)

Exactly

Unknown Speaker (00:09:36.179)

Laughs about Alex's shameful krill oil sale of pitches

Unknown Speaker (00:09:41.179)

I think my favorite part though somehow is the over editing

Unknown Speaker (00:09:44.179)

Where they're cutting it so quick and you're like, is he coming at me from like 8 different angles?

Unknown Speaker (00:09:49.179)

That clip is only acceptable if it's a one take situation

Unknown Speaker (00:09:53.179)

Where it's like, huh, okay, I get that you're getting weird but you only had a minute to shoot the commercial

Unknown Speaker (00:09:59.179)

The fact that there's editing means there must be like 15 minutes of him rambling about fish oil

Unknown Speaker (00:10:04.179)

I want the raw

Unknown Speaker (00:10:06.179)

That was the gold footage of that

Unknown Speaker (00:10:09.179)

Forget raw krill oil, I want the raw, unedited, unfiltered Alex's tape on that

Unknown Speaker (00:10:16.179)

So that's what we're starting out with

Unknown Speaker (00:10:18.179)

I want to get that out of the way a little bit

Unknown Speaker (00:10:20.179)

Krill oil, it'll make you cum

Unknown Speaker (00:10:21.179)

No, we can't use that one Alex, Alex

Unknown Speaker (00:10:23.179)

Tim Fruge is over there shaking his head in the corner

Unknown Speaker (00:10:27.179)

Barnes is giving them the thumbs up

Unknown Speaker (00:10:31.179)

Barnes doesn't give a shit

Unknown Speaker (00:10:33.179)

Somehow Phil Spector is there, like layer it, put more layers on there

Unknown Speaker (00:10:37.179)

Get creepier

Unknown Speaker (00:10:38.179)

Get creepier about the krill

Unknown Speaker (00:10:40.179)

So here we go, we're going to jump in here on May 2nd

Unknown Speaker (00:10:44.179)

This is our first clip, Alex is complaining about the Chicoms

Unknown Speaker (00:10:48.179)

Naturally

Unknown Speaker (00:10:49.179)

You understand of the big 6 production companies, the Chicoms own controlling interest

Unknown Speaker (00:10:55.179)

And are funding total weaponization

Unknown Speaker (00:10:58.179)

Not true

Unknown Speaker (00:10:59.179)

Teaching people how to self harm, teaching little girls how to commit suicide

Unknown Speaker (00:11:03.179)

Breaking up the family, all this stuff is illegal in China

Unknown Speaker (00:11:06.179)

They don't let their own production company material air there

Unknown Speaker (00:11:09.179)

They say it demoralizes and is designed to bring down the country

Unknown Speaker (00:11:12.179)

But they hit us with the most scientifically designed demoralization

Unknown Speaker (00:11:18.179)

And even though Hillary lost, they're still following through with their operation

Unknown Speaker (00:11:22.179)

It's come out that all the big universities are basically Chicom controlled now

Unknown Speaker (00:11:26.179)

The public universities, that's mainstream news now, Washington Post

Unknown Speaker (00:11:29.179)

It's coming out everywhere

Unknown Speaker (00:11:31.179)

And when it all comes out, it's over for all you collaborators

Unknown Speaker (00:11:34.179)

So this is all nonsense, these are just some of his junior varsity narratives

Unknown Speaker (00:11:38.179)

That he's kind of let slip in favor of just yelling generally about the Chicoms

Unknown Speaker (00:11:42.179)

Yeah, I remember these narratives going on

Unknown Speaker (00:11:46.179)

These are long existing narratives that we just haven't heard in a while

Unknown Speaker (00:11:50.179)

And he's bringing back up

Unknown Speaker (00:11:51.179)

Like the idea that the Chinese own all the movie theaters

Unknown Speaker (00:11:54.179)

All the movie houses, they own all the schools

Unknown Speaker (00:11:56.179)

We've discussed what he's lying about there

Unknown Speaker (00:11:58.179)

But the reason that I think it's important, and I leave this in

Unknown Speaker (00:12:01.179)

Is because Alex doesn't know he's kicked off social media until about halfway through this show

Unknown Speaker (00:12:08.179)

Really?

Unknown Speaker (00:12:09.179)

Yes

Unknown Speaker (00:12:10.179)

That's fun

Unknown Speaker (00:12:11.179)

So we get a glimpse of where his head is at before it happens

Unknown Speaker (00:12:14.179)

And then immediately after it happens

Unknown Speaker (00:12:16.179)

And I think that because you see the entire path that he takes

Unknown Speaker (00:12:21.179)

You get clues as to what's going on

Unknown Speaker (00:12:24.179)

And there's a couple of damning pieces of information

Unknown Speaker (00:12:28.179)

And it's also fun just to have this quiet before the storm

Unknown Speaker (00:12:32.179)

Yeah, you like that?

Unknown Speaker (00:12:33.179)

I do, I really do

Unknown Speaker (00:12:34.179)

I do too

Unknown Speaker (00:12:35.179)

When you told me that he didn't know, I heard that whole thing in a different context

Unknown Speaker (00:12:39.179)

He comes into the office and he just thinks he's going to have a good time yelling about the Chinese

Unknown Speaker (00:12:43.179)

Yeah, you don't even know you're about to step into that guillotine

Unknown Speaker (00:12:46.179)

It's like that episode we had from like two years ago

Unknown Speaker (00:12:48.179)

That one where he lost a million dollars overnight

Unknown Speaker (00:12:51.179)

He's all celebrating and having one day and the next day

Unknown Speaker (00:12:54.179)

Fuck

Unknown Speaker (00:12:56.179)

So in this next clip Alex talks about how Hillary had gone on Rachel Maddow's show

Unknown Speaker (00:13:03.179)

Of course

Unknown Speaker (00:13:04.179)

And he's trying to make the argument that Hillary is openly asking for the Chinese to come interfere in the election of 2020

Unknown Speaker (00:13:11.179)

As opposed to ironically asking the Chinese

Unknown Speaker (00:13:14.179)

Well, here's what Alex says

Unknown Speaker (00:13:16.179)

And of course one of the big issues is Hillary Clinton, ladies and gentlemen, going on Rachel Maddow's show with its dismal plunging ratings

Unknown Speaker (00:13:29.179)

Also, he actually said Maddow that time, but frequently on this episode he calls her Mad Cow

Unknown Speaker (00:13:34.179)

And I'm like, you hang out with someone named Man Cow

Unknown Speaker (00:13:37.179)

What's the insult?

Unknown Speaker (00:13:39.179)

It's a quick turn

Unknown Speaker (00:13:41.179)

I mean, to her being compared to Man Cow is probably a very huge insult

Unknown Speaker (00:13:46.179)

If I were Rachel Maddow and someone called me Man Cow, I'd be like, fuck you

Unknown Speaker (00:13:50.179)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Unknown Speaker (00:13:51.179)

After their whole Russia hoax fell flat

Unknown Speaker (00:13:54.179)

And saying that we need the Chinese, we need the Chinese communist to come to the aid in 2020 and overthrow the election and remove Trump

Unknown Speaker (00:14:06.179)

So that is his position on it, and here's where he gets to playing the clip of it

Unknown Speaker (00:14:12.179)

Here is a clip of the pumpkin-headed witch last night

Unknown Speaker (00:14:16.179)

I thought she was casting for the remake of, of course, her favorite movie, The Exorcist

Unknown Speaker (00:14:20.179)

Seriously, she looks like a demon-possessed jack-o-lantern because she is, here it is

Unknown Speaker (00:14:25.179)

Imagine, Rachel, that you had one of the Democratic nominees for 2020 on your show

Unknown Speaker (00:14:32.179)

And that person said, you know, the only other adversary of ours who's anywhere near as good as the Russians is China

Unknown Speaker (00:14:40.179)

So why should Russia have all the fun?

Unknown Speaker (00:14:44.179)

And since Russia is clearly backing Republicans, why don't we ask China to back us?

Unknown Speaker (00:14:51.179)

I hear by tonight, ask China

Unknown Speaker (00:14:53.179)

That's right, and not only that, China, if you're listening, why don't you get Trump's tax returns?

Unknown Speaker (00:14:59.179)

I'm sure our media would richly reward you

Unknown Speaker (00:15:03.179)

Now, according to the Mueller report, that is not conspiracy because it's done right out in the open

Unknown Speaker (00:15:10.179)

So if after this hypothetical Democratic candidate says this on your show, within hours, all of a sudden, the IRS offices are bombarded with incredibly sophisticated

Unknown Speaker (00:15:22.179)

I want to come back with this demon's last political gasp

Unknown Speaker (00:15:26.179)

Stay with us, I'm Alex Jones with NewsWars.com

Unknown Speaker (00:15:57.179)

Looking for Trump's tax returns and then extracts them and then passes them to whatever the new WikiLeaks happens to be

Unknown Speaker (00:16:05.179)

And they start being unraveled and disclosed, nothing wrong with that

Unknown Speaker (00:16:10.179)

I mean, if you're going to let Russia get away with what they did and are still doing, according to Christopher Wray, the current FBI director who said that last week

Unknown Speaker (00:16:20.179)

They're in our election systems, we're worried about 2020, he said

Unknown Speaker (00:16:25.179)

So, hey, let's have a great power contest and let's get the Chinese in on the side of somebody else

Unknown Speaker (00:16:32.179)

Just saying that shows how absurd the situation we find ourselves in

Unknown Speaker (00:16:37.179)

So, if you leave that last part off, you can make it sound like she's saying, hey, let's get the Chinese in the mix

Unknown Speaker (00:16:44.179)

Really? I kind of thought it was-

Unknown Speaker (00:16:46.179)

If you're a propagandist

Unknown Speaker (00:16:47.179)

Yeah, but I thought it was really obvious

Unknown Speaker (00:16:49.179)

It is

Unknown Speaker (00:16:50.179)

Like, even in the clip that he played, it's very clear that she's saying, here's what Trump did and I'm just putting in a different context

Unknown Speaker (00:16:57.179)

Right, but if you're someone like Alex, you can make the argument that what she's actually doing is she's saying, like, you know

Unknown Speaker (00:17:03.179)

She's putting a nice little bow tie on what she actually wants

Unknown Speaker (00:17:07.180)

Something like that

Unknown Speaker (00:17:08.180)

He very intentionally never plays that last part

Unknown Speaker (00:17:10.180)

Oh, of course not

Unknown Speaker (00:17:11.180)

Just saying this shows the absurdity of the situation that is laid out in the Mueller report

Unknown Speaker (00:17:17.180)

I'm not in any way saying, hey Chinese, come, Chinese government, come help us out

Unknown Speaker (00:17:22.180)

Right

Unknown Speaker (00:17:23.180)

So, the reason this is important to me and the reason this is worth mentioning is that Alex never stops talking about how people use edited clips of him

Unknown Speaker (00:17:31.180)

In order to misinterpret his words

Unknown Speaker (00:17:33.180)

Right

Unknown Speaker (00:17:34.180)

And here we find him doing exactly the same thing to Hillary Clinton on Rachel Maddow's show

Unknown Speaker (00:17:39.180)

In all honesty, I'm surprised by his restraint

Unknown Speaker (00:17:42.180)

He could have just played that short little bit where she was like, so I'm asking China to do that, you know

Unknown Speaker (00:17:48.180)

Like that five little, that two little second clip right there

Unknown Speaker (00:17:51.180)

I think he thinks that the rest of it makes it worse

Unknown Speaker (00:17:53.180)

Except for the end

Unknown Speaker (00:17:54.180)

And I think that there's something to that

Unknown Speaker (00:17:57.180)

I understand that you would hear that and say, like, it's pretty clear what she's saying

Unknown Speaker (00:18:01.180)

Yeah

Unknown Speaker (00:18:02.180)

But a normal InfoWars listener with Alex's guidance through what she's really saying, what the context is

Unknown Speaker (00:18:09.180)

Right, right, right, right

Unknown Speaker (00:18:10.180)

I think everything except for the end could be used, especially the fact that Maddow says

Unknown Speaker (00:18:16.180)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Maddow actually doing it straight up was, yeah, that's easy

Unknown Speaker (00:18:20.180)

That's unhelpful

Unknown Speaker (00:18:21.180)

Yeah, yeah, that's Slim Pickens right there

Unknown Speaker (00:18:23.180)

So, earlier we heard Alex complaining that the Chinese, the Chinese government, the Chinese communist government, the Chicoms

Unknown Speaker (00:18:30.180)

Yes, yes

Unknown Speaker (00:18:31.180)

They own and control all the movies

Unknown Speaker (00:18:33.180)

Yes

Unknown Speaker (00:18:34.180)

And movie studios in the United States

Unknown Speaker (00:18:35.180)

Big Six

Unknown Speaker (00:18:36.180)

And one of the things that you need to understand about that is, first of all, it appears to not be true

Unknown Speaker (00:18:43.180)

Because reality says that it's not true

Unknown Speaker (00:18:45.180)

Right

Unknown Speaker (00:18:46.180)

But what you don't know is that in the past, Alex has sent spies to film festivals

Unknown Speaker (00:18:51.180)

And he has learned some things about that

Unknown Speaker (00:18:55.180)

He's going to Fantastic Fest?

Unknown Speaker (00:18:56.180)

Uh huh

Unknown Speaker (00:18:57.180)

Okay

Unknown Speaker (00:18:58.180)

And here's what he's learned

Unknown Speaker (00:18:59.180)

The microcosm, I sent people, I'm just going to leave it at this, to major film festivals

Unknown Speaker (00:19:06.180)

Because I already knew this was going on, but they were in the meetings with these individuals this year

Unknown Speaker (00:19:10.180)

At Sundance, you name it, where they said, we get money to demoralize

Unknown Speaker (00:19:15.180)

We get money to make the most depressing, horrible, anti-American stuff we can

Unknown Speaker (00:19:20.180)

And that is our job

Unknown Speaker (00:19:21.180)

And they're openly all competing with each other about who can be the most horrible and be the most evil

Unknown Speaker (00:19:26.180)

And they know their mission

Unknown Speaker (00:19:28.180)

Okay

Unknown Speaker (00:19:29.180)

Alright

Unknown Speaker (00:19:30.180)

So yeah, you went to Sundance, South By, I'm sure

Unknown Speaker (00:19:33.180)

Probably went to TIFF

Unknown Speaker (00:19:34.180)

And Austin, so you obviously went to South By South By

Unknown Speaker (00:19:36.180)

Of course

Unknown Speaker (00:19:37.180)

And in an unguarded moment, some filmmakers were like, you know Alex Jones, I gotta tell you the fucking truth

Unknown Speaker (00:19:43.180)

I get paid to make depressing shit

Unknown Speaker (00:19:45.180)

I imagine maybe drunkenly someone like a filmmaker might lament how emotionally wrought his work is

Unknown Speaker (00:19:53.180)

Right, and it's at an independent film fest, so a lot of those tend to have that kind of Oscar baby theme to them

Unknown Speaker (00:20:01.180)

And everybody knows that the Oscars love somebody to torture themselves

Unknown Speaker (00:20:04.180)

Yeah, so Alex sent those spies out, so he's got that information, which contradicts reality, but that's fine

Unknown Speaker (00:20:10.180)

He has further proof, and that is from his own personal experience

Unknown Speaker (00:20:15.180)

He didn't need spies for this stuff

Unknown Speaker (00:20:17.180)

I remember being out in Hollywood in some movies and TV shows and things, back when I didn't care to be in them

Unknown Speaker (00:20:22.180)

Like 15, 16, 17 years ago, they'd say, you know who's buying up all the movie studios?

Unknown Speaker (00:20:27.180)

It's the Chinese government, and they tell us what we can say and what we can't do

Unknown Speaker (00:20:31.180)

Well now that's all mainstream news the last five years

Unknown Speaker (00:20:34.180)

It's not

Unknown Speaker (00:20:35.180)

The Chinese market is very important to motion pictures

Unknown Speaker (00:20:39.180)

Mostly, and not even just the Chinese market, but the international market saves blockbusters a lot of the time

Unknown Speaker (00:20:45.180)

It's Michael Bay's entire reason for existence

Unknown Speaker (00:20:48.180)

Yeah, and so there is some pandering, but that's not because the Chinese government's trying to demoralize America

Unknown Speaker (00:20:55.180)

It's a capitalist force of emerging opening markets overseas for our films

Unknown Speaker (00:21:01.180)

But whatever the case, Alex has never gone to Hollywood to be in movies

Unknown Speaker (00:21:06.180)

He's been in two movies, they were both directed by Richard Linklater

Unknown Speaker (00:21:09.180)

In Hollywood

Unknown Speaker (00:21:10.180)

They both filmed in Austin

Unknown Speaker (00:21:15.180)

Scanner Darkly filmed in Austin

Unknown Speaker (00:21:19.180)

And Waking Life is just Alex Jones driving around Austin in his car yelling at a bullhorn

Unknown Speaker (00:21:25.180)

He did not go to Hollywood

Unknown Speaker (00:21:27.180)

He saw the premiere, it premiered in Hollywood

Unknown Speaker (00:21:29.180)

He was in the film

Unknown Speaker (00:21:31.180)

Richard Linklater is a huge Austin dude

Unknown Speaker (00:21:35.180)

It's so stupid

Unknown Speaker (00:21:38.180)

At least you could conceivably see a conversation with Linklater where he could get that

Unknown Speaker (00:21:45.180)

Linklater literally being like, hey, they're asking me to make films for the Chinese market

Unknown Speaker (00:21:50.180)

More likely Charlie Sheen when he was high on coke, yelled at it

Unknown Speaker (00:21:54.180)

That sounds right

Unknown Speaker (00:21:55.180)

Alex Jones being in a couple of movies is the Richard C. Johnson of, I worked in intelligence 30 years ago

Unknown Speaker (00:22:03.180)

It has the veneer of like, I was in Hollywood, and people are like, I guess you were in movies

Unknown Speaker (00:22:09.180)

You just don't think about it like, no you weren't

Unknown Speaker (00:22:13.180)

You just have the veneer of credibility based on the thinnest amount of experience in something

Unknown Speaker (00:22:18.180)

And it's sad

Unknown Speaker (00:22:19.180)

Yeah, I think a lot about what Lee Majors thoughts on films are

Unknown Speaker (00:22:23.180)

Sure

Unknown Speaker (00:22:24.180)

So Jordan, in this episode here on the May 2nd, like I said, later in the episode

Unknown Speaker (00:22:30.180)

Alex gets the news that he's been kicked off Instagram, kicked off Facebook

Unknown Speaker (00:22:34.180)

And we'll discuss the ban when it comes

Unknown Speaker (00:22:37.180)

But in this next clip, before any of this has become public, before any of the news broke

Unknown Speaker (00:22:43.180)

Alex, I believe, gives us a hint as to what happened behind the scenes

Unknown Speaker (00:22:49.180)

And I think that this is important

Unknown Speaker (00:22:51.180)

They're shipping in millions of people, hundreds of thousands of which have serious diseases

Unknown Speaker (00:22:55.180)

And then if you link to medical reports put out by the CDC and even the border patrol

Unknown Speaker (00:23:00.180)

They put up notes saying it's fake news and block it on Facebook

Unknown Speaker (00:23:04.180)

That happened to us yesterday, I'll be showing you that

Unknown Speaker (00:23:06.180)

I was just linking to ABC News and medical reports

Unknown Speaker (00:23:11.180)

Saying that it's not unvaccinated, that's a hoax, it's the illegals

Unknown Speaker (00:23:15.180)

So you have to understand folks, they are demoralizing

Unknown Speaker (00:23:19.180)

They are trying to depress you and destroy you

Unknown Speaker (00:23:21.180)

So that's not true

Unknown Speaker (00:23:23.180)

No

Unknown Speaker (00:23:24.180)

That isn't true

Unknown Speaker (00:23:25.180)

But he says that he got a warning of some sort

Unknown Speaker (00:23:28.180)

That he was going to have these things

Unknown Speaker (00:23:30.180)

Like this story was going to be taken down

Unknown Speaker (00:23:33.180)

Or this post was going to be taken down

Unknown Speaker (00:23:35.180)

Because of the erroneous nature

Unknown Speaker (00:23:38.180)

Because of all the lies

Unknown Speaker (00:23:40.180)

Right, so when I heard that, I was like, oh that's interesting

Unknown Speaker (00:23:44.180)

Knowing what comes later

Unknown Speaker (00:23:46.180)

It was like, oh that's interesting

Unknown Speaker (00:23:48.180)

But I didn't think it really proved anything

Unknown Speaker (00:23:51.180)

So I just left it aside for a second

Unknown Speaker (00:23:53.180)

And I'm glad I did

Unknown Speaker (00:23:55.180)

Because there's better stuff to come

Unknown Speaker (00:23:57.180)

For now, Alex has got to jump to the phones

Unknown Speaker (00:23:59.180)

Because he doesn't have much

Unknown Speaker (00:24:01.180)

He shot his wad early yelling about the Chinese

Unknown Speaker (00:24:03.180)

Yeah, the Chinese, got to go to the phones

Unknown Speaker (00:24:05.180)

And so he goes to the phones

Unknown Speaker (00:24:06.180)

And man, this caller seems like a creep

Unknown Speaker (00:24:09.180)

Everywhere I go, I start up a conversation about you and the show

Unknown Speaker (00:24:13.180)

And I enter the world order, my wife thinks I'm nuts, but that's just the way it is

Unknown Speaker (00:24:16.180)

And most people get it, most people get it

Unknown Speaker (00:24:18.180)

Especially the high school age kids, no

Unknown Speaker (00:24:20.180)

I ran into one the other day

Unknown Speaker (00:24:22.180)

He said, are you talking to high schoolers?

Unknown Speaker (00:24:24.180)

That's no good

Unknown Speaker (00:24:25.180)

No, that's no good

Unknown Speaker (00:24:26.180)

Because I don't think he's a teacher

Unknown Speaker (00:24:27.180)

He said you ran into a high schooler

Unknown Speaker (00:24:29.180)

Definitely doesn't sound like a teacher

Unknown Speaker (00:24:30.180)

Who he was talking to about the new world order

Unknown Speaker (00:24:32.180)

Ran into a high schooler at the local bar

Unknown Speaker (00:24:34.180)

Stay away from those kids

Unknown Speaker (00:24:36.180)

Stay away from those high schoolers

Unknown Speaker (00:24:38.180)

Stop trying to open their mind and red pill them

Unknown Speaker (00:24:41.180)

That's no good

Unknown Speaker (00:24:42.180)

No, that is not good

Unknown Speaker (00:24:44.180)

So I was hanging around at George Washington Middle School

Unknown Speaker (00:24:46.180)

And I finally got one of those eighth graders

Unknown Speaker (00:24:48.180)

To realize that the globalists are after them

Unknown Speaker (00:24:51.180)

They're coming for you

Unknown Speaker (00:24:53.180)

Then the police come, tell them to leave

Unknown Speaker (00:24:55.180)

The guy runs away, takes off his clothes

Unknown Speaker (00:24:56.180)

My wife thinks I'm crazy

Unknown Speaker (00:24:57.180)

Says he's running away from the school

Unknown Speaker (00:24:59.180)

Now we're back to real sensible people behavior

Unknown Speaker (00:25:02.180)

So in this next clip, Alex gets into having a conversation with one of his callers

Unknown Speaker (00:25:07.180)

About the enemies that they have

Unknown Speaker (00:25:11.180)

What are you going to do about these enemies?

Unknown Speaker (00:25:13.180)

Let me ask you this then

Unknown Speaker (00:25:15.180)

Let's say in the course of action you research this

Unknown Speaker (00:25:17.180)

What does the president need to do?

Unknown Speaker (00:25:18.180)

I mean a very quick thing to do is

Unknown Speaker (00:25:21.180)

Because they didn't start the fight and they are criminals

Unknown Speaker (00:25:23.180)

And they are globalists and we're the American team

Unknown Speaker (00:25:25.180)

Is that Trump would decapitate what about a thousand of them in one day?

Unknown Speaker (00:25:28.180)

Well I take him into custody

Unknown Speaker (00:25:30.180)

I don't know if we want to decapitate

Unknown Speaker (00:25:32.180)

But we can certainly

Unknown Speaker (00:25:34.180)

See you can say you want to not have any rules

Unknown Speaker (00:25:36.180)

Then it all turns into a big circus

Unknown Speaker (00:25:38.180)

The only thing they understand is power

Unknown Speaker (00:25:40.180)

If you want to do it, I'm not saying do this

Unknown Speaker (00:25:42.180)

I'm not a trigger guy

Unknown Speaker (00:25:44.180)

The point is we're going down a road with them

Unknown Speaker (00:25:46.180)

That if they can decapitate us, they do it

Unknown Speaker (00:25:48.180)

So I'm just simply saying the quickest, easiest thing to do

Unknown Speaker (00:25:50.180)

Is that the command and control system

Unknown Speaker (00:25:52.180)

Has wiped out their command and control

Unknown Speaker (00:25:54.180)

They're not Americans, they're multinational

Unknown Speaker (00:25:56.180)

Bidders, middlemen selling us out

Unknown Speaker (00:25:58.180)

You understand that right?

Unknown Speaker (00:26:00.180)

These aren't Americans, these are enemy forces in this country

Unknown Speaker (00:26:02.180)

That's not good

Unknown Speaker (00:26:04.180)

I would like to see President Trump use the tools and the powers

Unknown Speaker (00:26:06.180)

That they wanted to give to Hillary Clinton

Unknown Speaker (00:26:08.180)

If she were president, she would be a dictator

Unknown Speaker (00:26:10.180)

I think he has to say

Unknown Speaker (00:26:12.180)

These are the powers you wanted to give to her

Unknown Speaker (00:26:14.180)

I'm going to use them

Unknown Speaker (00:26:16.180)

You're going to hate it because I use them

Unknown Speaker (00:26:18.180)

And then you're going to take them away

Unknown Speaker (00:26:20.180)

And that's a good thing, we want the powers

Unknown Speaker (00:26:22.180)

We're only doing hypothetical share

Unknown Speaker (00:26:24.180)

I don't want to go down this road

Unknown Speaker (00:26:26.180)

I think Trump's been judicious about so far

Unknown Speaker (00:26:28.180)

Are these guys that stupid?

Unknown Speaker (00:26:30.180)

They have to be

Unknown Speaker (00:26:32.180)

Nobody could be that stupid

Unknown Speaker (00:26:34.180)

I find it very hard to believe anyone's that stupid

Unknown Speaker (00:26:36.180)

That's so stupid

Unknown Speaker (00:26:38.180)

I think that some people could be

Unknown Speaker (00:26:40.180)

But that caller seems to be processing thoughts decently

Unknown Speaker (00:26:42.180)

He's not one of his callers

Unknown Speaker (00:26:44.180)

That I feel bad about

Unknown Speaker (00:26:46.180)

That's a caller who I'm kind of scared of

Unknown Speaker (00:26:48.180)

I thought Alex was going to call him a nerd

Unknown Speaker (00:26:50.180)

After that first response

Unknown Speaker (00:26:52.180)

I thought Alex was just going to be like

Unknown Speaker (00:26:54.180)

Nerd, why don't you kill people?

Unknown Speaker (00:26:56.180)

I can't imagine

Unknown Speaker (00:26:58.180)

People of any good

Unknown Speaker (00:27:00.180)

Faith or mental

Unknown Speaker (00:27:02.180)

Cognition

Unknown Speaker (00:27:04.180)

Thinking that you give someone dictator powers

Unknown Speaker (00:27:06.180)

And then you get to take them away

Unknown Speaker (00:27:08.180)

Or they give them up

Unknown Speaker (00:27:10.180)

Isn't that how it always works?

Unknown Speaker (00:27:12.180)

History has shown that that is not generally

Unknown Speaker (00:27:14.180)

The path it goes

Unknown Speaker (00:27:16.180)

When somebody has the kind of powers

Unknown Speaker (00:27:18.180)

That dictators have, they kind of like them

Unknown Speaker (00:27:20.180)

Yeah, they tend to

Unknown Speaker (00:27:22.180)

And once you give them those powers, you can't take them away

Unknown Speaker (00:27:24.180)

It's kind of in the definition, right?

Unknown Speaker (00:27:26.180)

Well, you can take them away

Unknown Speaker (00:27:28.180)

But generally it leads to

Unknown Speaker (00:27:30.180)

I don't know

Unknown Speaker (00:27:32.180)

Coo

Unknown Speaker (00:27:34.180)

Insurrections, it leads to riots

Unknown Speaker (00:27:36.180)

Loyalist forces

Unknown Speaker (00:27:38.180)

Within the military

Unknown Speaker (00:27:40.180)

Yeah, yeah

Unknown Speaker (00:27:42.180)

I can't imagine

Unknown Speaker (00:27:44.180)

Anyone who thinks they know

Unknown Speaker (00:27:46.180)

Anything expressing an opinion like that

Unknown Speaker (00:27:48.180)

It's really fucking stupid

Unknown Speaker (00:27:50.180)

Obviously they were going to make Hillary a dictator

Unknown Speaker (00:27:52.180)

And thank God that we got Trump

Unknown Speaker (00:27:54.180)

In who is not a dictator

Unknown Speaker (00:27:56.180)

But, clearly, they're not stoked

Unknown Speaker (00:27:58.180)

About it, so what we should do

Unknown Speaker (00:28:00.180)

Is install Trump as a dictator

Unknown Speaker (00:28:02.180)

And have him do what Hillary was going to do

Unknown Speaker (00:28:04.180)

To us, to them

Unknown Speaker (00:28:06.180)

And then we'll take a vote

Unknown Speaker (00:28:08.180)

They'll be so mad about it

Unknown Speaker (00:28:10.180)

That they'll get rid of those powers that we've given Trump

Unknown Speaker (00:28:12.180)

Get the fuck out of here

Unknown Speaker (00:28:14.180)

Congress will vote to give him

Unknown Speaker (00:28:16.180)

Complete and utter control, but they will reserve

Unknown Speaker (00:28:18.180)

The right to take away that control

Unknown Speaker (00:28:20.180)

That usually works, right?

Unknown Speaker (00:28:22.180)

Delusional fucks

Unknown Speaker (00:28:24.180)

So stupid

Unknown Speaker (00:28:26.180)

But also Alex is expressing this pretty violent

Unknown Speaker (00:28:28.180)

Sort of language

Unknown Speaker (00:28:30.180)

Yeah, he wants to decapitate people

Unknown Speaker (00:28:32.180)

Now, I want you to hold onto that

Unknown Speaker (00:28:34.180)

Quite a bit later, but he does

Unknown Speaker (00:28:36.180)

Does he?

Unknown Speaker (00:28:38.180)

Yeah, I don't buy it

Unknown Speaker (00:28:40.180)

I feel like you have to clarify things

Unknown Speaker (00:28:42.180)

A lot shorter for me to feel like they are clarified

Unknown Speaker (00:28:44.180)

You can't come in two minutes later

Unknown Speaker (00:28:46.180)

And be like, now I only meant that politically

Unknown Speaker (00:28:48.180)

Oh, it's a little bit later

Unknown Speaker (00:28:50.180)

And he doesn't say politically

Unknown Speaker (00:28:52.180)

I'm not suggesting you do that

Unknown Speaker (00:28:54.180)

Let's say for now

Unknown Speaker (00:28:56.180)

That what he's saying is very violent

Unknown Speaker (00:28:58.180)

But he wants you to not think that it's really violent

Unknown Speaker (00:29:00.180)

He's like, I'm not one of these guys who's advocating for violence

Unknown Speaker (00:29:02.180)

But then he says this

Unknown Speaker (00:29:04.180)

And it really hurts his case

Unknown Speaker (00:29:06.180)

The problem is they've been caught in an attempted coup

Unknown Speaker (00:29:08.180)

They've been terrorizing everybody

Unknown Speaker (00:29:10.180)

They've got anti-foot training with MS-13

Unknown Speaker (00:29:12.180)

To start assassinations

Unknown Speaker (00:29:14.180)

That's confirmed now

Unknown Speaker (00:29:16.180)

And I'm just saying

Unknown Speaker (00:29:18.180)

It's like having a dog with rabies coming towards your kids at the park

Unknown Speaker (00:29:20.180)

What do you do?

Unknown Speaker (00:29:24.180)

You do whatever is necessary to stop the dog

Unknown Speaker (00:29:26.180)

But we can't fault ourselves for defending ourselves

Unknown Speaker (00:29:30.180)

I know, but what I'm telling you is

Unknown Speaker (00:29:32.180)

They're going to blow up federal buildings and blame us

Unknown Speaker (00:29:34.180)

I'm not for any type of offensive stuff

Unknown Speaker (00:29:36.180)

We need to start indicting these people now

Unknown Speaker (00:29:38.180)

And they will roll

Unknown Speaker (00:29:40.180)

But I wouldn't just indict low-level people

Unknown Speaker (00:29:42.180)

I would go after the high-level ones

Unknown Speaker (00:29:44.180)

And just start the indictments

Unknown Speaker (00:29:46.180)

Trump needs to start declassifying

Unknown Speaker (00:29:48.180)

Now, take the gloves off

Unknown Speaker (00:29:50.180)

They're not going to back off

Unknown Speaker (00:29:52.180)

I agree with you, God bless

Unknown Speaker (00:29:54.180)

Anything else?

Unknown Speaker (00:29:56.180)

There wasn't so much agreeing with that guy

Unknown Speaker (00:29:58.180)

It was making a point and then feigning agreement

Unknown Speaker (00:30:00.180)

At the end

Unknown Speaker (00:30:02.180)

When you're saying these sorts of things

Unknown Speaker (00:30:04.180)

I don't advocate violence

Unknown Speaker (00:30:06.180)

But they tried to overthrow our fucking government

Unknown Speaker (00:30:08.180)

They're a rabid dog coming at your kids

Unknown Speaker (00:30:10.180)

What are you going to do?

Unknown Speaker (00:30:12.180)

Whatever you got to do

Unknown Speaker (00:30:14.180)

What does that mean?

Unknown Speaker (00:30:16.180)

What's the coded language there?

Unknown Speaker (00:30:18.180)

Support the peaceful transition of power

Unknown Speaker (00:30:20.180)

So in this next clip

Unknown Speaker (00:30:22.180)

We get to his explanation

Unknown Speaker (00:30:24.180)

Where he's talking about the idea

Unknown Speaker (00:30:26.180)

Mickey realized he said

Unknown Speaker (00:30:28.180)

I want to decapitate tons of people

Unknown Speaker (00:30:30.180)

And he realized I can't let that sit there

Unknown Speaker (00:30:32.180)

And I only play this

Unknown Speaker (00:30:34.180)

Because I want to be super fair to him

Unknown Speaker (00:30:36.180)

If I just played that clip

Unknown Speaker (00:30:38.180)

And I never said, well later he does say this

Unknown Speaker (00:30:40.180)

That would be super unfair

Unknown Speaker (00:30:42.180)

I would be allowing our audience

Unknown Speaker (00:30:44.180)

To have the perception that Alex literally

Unknown Speaker (00:30:46.180)

Called for the decapitations

Unknown Speaker (00:30:48.180)

Of tons of his political enemies

Unknown Speaker (00:30:50.180)

So only in the interest of fairness

Unknown Speaker (00:30:52.180)

And because I don't think this helps that much

Unknown Speaker (00:30:54.180)

Here's Alex explaining himself

Unknown Speaker (00:30:56.180)

And again this is all an open discussion

Unknown Speaker (00:30:58.180)

A war game of this

Unknown Speaker (00:31:00.180)

They're going to pick and choose stuff out of context here

Unknown Speaker (00:31:02.180)

I'm a non-violent person

Unknown Speaker (00:31:04.180)

I don't want any offensive action

Unknown Speaker (00:31:06.180)

But this is a cancerous outside group

Unknown Speaker (00:31:08.180)

So I'm saying all options are on the table

Unknown Speaker (00:31:10.180)

And I back the president basically

Unknown Speaker (00:31:12.180)

Whatever he does, yeah he has my trust at this point

Unknown Speaker (00:31:14.180)

So there's two things that are super important there

Unknown Speaker (00:31:16.180)

On May 2nd Alex is saying

Unknown Speaker (00:31:18.180)

Whatever the president does

Unknown Speaker (00:31:20.180)

He's got my trust, I support him

Unknown Speaker (00:31:22.180)

On May 2nd you can't say things like

Unknown Speaker (00:31:24.180)

I'm not an offensive violence guy

Unknown Speaker (00:31:26.180)

But every option's on the table

Unknown Speaker (00:31:28.180)

You can't say stuff like that

Unknown Speaker (00:31:30.180)

Because that but is huge

Unknown Speaker (00:31:32.180)

It's a pretty big one

Unknown Speaker (00:31:34.180)

Yeah, there's a lot of weight in the sentence

Unknown Speaker (00:31:36.180)

On that disjunction

Unknown Speaker (00:31:38.180)

Yeah especially because

Unknown Speaker (00:31:40.180)

It also has a certain sense of immediacy

Unknown Speaker (00:31:42.180)

To it, that but right there

Unknown Speaker (00:31:44.180)

Well cause there's a rabid dog coming at you

Unknown Speaker (00:31:46.180)

I'm not a violence guy

Unknown Speaker (00:31:48.180)

But meaning today

Unknown Speaker (00:31:50.180)

All options are on the table

Unknown Speaker (00:31:52.180)

Well because there is an immediacy like I said

Unknown Speaker (00:31:54.180)

There's a rabid dog coming at your children

Unknown Speaker (00:31:56.180)

So all options are on the table

Unknown Speaker (00:31:58.180)

Right, it's great

Unknown Speaker (00:32:00.180)

Yeah, I don't

Unknown Speaker (00:32:02.180)

Can we just really stop for a second

Unknown Speaker (00:32:04.180)

And listen to Alex say

Unknown Speaker (00:32:06.180)

That I don't care what Trump does

Unknown Speaker (00:32:08.180)

He has my trust

Unknown Speaker (00:32:10.180)

I trust him completely

Unknown Speaker (00:32:12.180)

Well yeah I mean it's crazy

Unknown Speaker (00:32:14.180)

There is zero people in government

Unknown Speaker (00:32:16.180)

That I trust completely

Unknown Speaker (00:32:18.180)

Ever, ever

Unknown Speaker (00:32:20.180)

And I believe in reality

Unknown Speaker (00:32:22.180)

Yeah

Unknown Speaker (00:32:24.180)

But Alex doesn't mean that

Unknown Speaker (00:32:26.180)

We will find that out later

Unknown Speaker (00:32:28.180)

But it is interesting to hear

Unknown Speaker (00:32:30.180)

That's his mindset on the 12th

Unknown Speaker (00:32:32.180)

Whatever Trump does is great

Unknown Speaker (00:32:34.180)

Now what is great is that

Unknown Speaker (00:32:36.180)

Leanne McAdoo is back

Unknown Speaker (00:32:38.180)

Oh you're so happy

Unknown Speaker (00:32:40.180)

I'm not actually

Unknown Speaker (00:32:42.180)

While she's come back

Unknown Speaker (00:32:44.180)

She's come back from taking care of family members

Unknown Speaker (00:32:46.180)

Of you and I don't really want to get into her personal life

Unknown Speaker (00:32:48.180)

At all, it is what it is

Unknown Speaker (00:32:50.180)

To the extent Alex is going to bring it up

Unknown Speaker (00:32:52.180)

It may come up here

Unknown Speaker (00:32:54.180)

But one piece of her personal life that I do find

Unknown Speaker (00:32:56.180)

Particularly interesting

Unknown Speaker (00:32:58.180)

Is that in this next clip

Unknown Speaker (00:33:00.180)

Alex says that she hasn't read the news in a year

Unknown Speaker (00:33:02.180)

She goes I'm like Rip Van Winkle

Unknown Speaker (00:33:04.180)

She said I'm like Rip Van Winkle

Unknown Speaker (00:33:06.180)

I've not watched the news in a year

Unknown Speaker (00:33:08.180)

Wow

Unknown Speaker (00:33:10.180)

She plunges right into here

Unknown Speaker (00:33:12.180)

And we're talking about

Unknown Speaker (00:33:14.180)

Chival war and death

Unknown Speaker (00:33:16.180)

So if you haven't read the news

Unknown Speaker (00:33:18.180)

In a year, I would argue you probably

Unknown Speaker (00:33:20.180)

Don't care too much about Alex's bullshit

Unknown Speaker (00:33:22.180)

Probably not

Unknown Speaker (00:33:24.180)

I would say that it makes this even more performative

Unknown Speaker (00:33:26.180)

And makes it all the more crass

Unknown Speaker (00:33:28.180)

The idea that you could

Unknown Speaker (00:33:30.180)

In 2018 or so

Unknown Speaker (00:33:32.180)

Just not watch the news

Unknown Speaker (00:33:34.180)

For a year

Unknown Speaker (00:33:36.180)

That means, like Alex has been screaming

Unknown Speaker (00:33:38.180)

Every day that tomorrow is the end of the world

Unknown Speaker (00:33:40.180)

The globalists are taking over

Unknown Speaker (00:33:42.180)

Obviously don't believe that

Unknown Speaker (00:33:44.180)

If you check out for a year

Unknown Speaker (00:33:46.180)

It's nonsense

Unknown Speaker (00:33:48.180)

Saying something like that is really fucked up

Unknown Speaker (00:33:50.180)

What's going on Alex?

Unknown Speaker (00:33:52.180)

Well the world is ending

Unknown Speaker (00:33:54.180)

You know that's so different from what you said a year ago

Unknown Speaker (00:33:56.180)

Whenever I stopped paying attention

Unknown Speaker (00:33:58.180)

It's crazy

Unknown Speaker (00:34:00.180)

When is it going to end? In about six months? Cool

Unknown Speaker (00:34:02.180)

Can we book me for about a year from now?

Unknown Speaker (00:34:04.180)

She's like Rip Van Winkle

Unknown Speaker (00:34:06.180)

If that story was about a guy who fell asleep for a hundred years

Unknown Speaker (00:34:08.179)

And everything was the same

Unknown Speaker (00:34:10.179)

Because it powers

Unknown Speaker (00:34:12.179)

I mean it's similar

Unknown Speaker (00:34:14.179)

So in this next clip

Unknown Speaker (00:34:16.179)

Before Leanne comes in

Unknown Speaker (00:34:18.179)

Because he's just sort of promoting that she's going to be in studio

Unknown Speaker (00:34:20.179)

Alex gets the news

Unknown Speaker (00:34:22.179)

Of his banning

Unknown Speaker (00:34:24.179)

And I actually think that this is pretty smart

Unknown Speaker (00:34:26.179)

His immediate response is exactly what he needed to do

Unknown Speaker (00:34:28.179)

Okay I'm going to wait to comment on this

Unknown Speaker (00:34:30.179)

To the start of the fourth hour

Unknown Speaker (00:34:32.179)

Maybe we can send Drudge

Unknown Speaker (00:34:34.179)

A email

Unknown Speaker (00:34:36.179)

Sometimes when I tell him to specifically

Unknown Speaker (00:34:38.179)

Comment on something

Unknown Speaker (00:34:40.179)

He's nice enough to give us

Unknown Speaker (00:34:42.179)

That additional forum to communicate with the press

Unknown Speaker (00:34:44.179)

And the president and the public

Unknown Speaker (00:34:46.179)

Because Drudge is the water cooler of the planet

Unknown Speaker (00:34:48.179)

So that is exactly what you need to do

Unknown Speaker (00:34:50.179)

Yep

Unknown Speaker (00:34:52.179)

Get the fucking Drudge

Unknown Speaker (00:34:54.179)

I need him

Unknown Speaker (00:34:56.179)

No one knows what I'm doing

Unknown Speaker (00:34:58.179)

People are looking at his website

Unknown Speaker (00:35:00.179)

I need help

Unknown Speaker (00:35:02.179)

Drudge, save me

Unknown Speaker (00:35:04.179)

That's smart

Unknown Speaker (00:35:06.179)

That's very smart

Unknown Speaker (00:35:08.179)

He doesn't follow that

Unknown Speaker (00:35:10.179)

Of course not

Unknown Speaker (00:35:12.179)

But he doesn't have an angle on it yet

Unknown Speaker (00:35:14.179)

He hasn't read anything about it

Unknown Speaker (00:35:16.179)

He just knows that people are talking about

Unknown Speaker (00:35:18.179)

The fact that he's been kicked off stuff

Unknown Speaker (00:35:20.179)

He's like fuck we got to get ahead of this

Unknown Speaker (00:35:22.179)

I need Drudge

Unknown Speaker (00:35:24.179)

I'm not going to comment on it until the fourth hour

Unknown Speaker (00:35:26.179)

But I'm still going to fucking talk about stuff

Unknown Speaker (00:35:28.179)

That's clearly related

Unknown Speaker (00:35:30.179)

Like in that last clip

Unknown Speaker (00:35:32.179)

Or not the last clip but a little bit earlier

Unknown Speaker (00:35:34.179)

He gives these indications of what was happening

Unknown Speaker (00:35:36.179)

Behind the scenes

Unknown Speaker (00:35:38.179)

He said that he got a warning about this post

Unknown Speaker (00:35:40.179)

About the idea that immigrants

Unknown Speaker (00:35:42.179)

Bring diseases in

Unknown Speaker (00:35:44.179)

And like I said, I waited a little bit longer

Unknown Speaker (00:35:46.179)

And Alex got even more overt

Unknown Speaker (00:35:48.179)

In this clip

Unknown Speaker (00:35:50.179)

And it tells me everything I need to know

Unknown Speaker (00:35:52.179)

So this is what's going on

Unknown Speaker (00:35:54.179)

They also warned us they may ban the pages this week

Unknown Speaker (00:35:56.179)

Because we said the measles outbreak is coming from

Unknown Speaker (00:35:58.179)

Illegal aliens and showed an ABC news report

Unknown Speaker (00:36:00.179)

Maybe we can document cam shot that

Unknown Speaker (00:36:02.179)

I'm not going to get to this until the next hour

Unknown Speaker (00:36:04.179)

I want to talk to Leanne

Unknown Speaker (00:36:06.179)

You just got to it

Unknown Speaker (00:36:08.179)

Yeah you pretty much just said it

Unknown Speaker (00:36:10.179)

So what Alex is saying there is he got a warning

Unknown Speaker (00:36:12.179)

Huh

Unknown Speaker (00:36:14.179)

It's crucially important to point out

Unknown Speaker (00:36:16.179)

That Alex is making it super clear

Unknown Speaker (00:36:18.179)

He got a warning about this

Unknown Speaker (00:36:20.179)

No

Unknown Speaker (00:36:22.179)

He said literally that he was told that they might take down his pages

Unknown Speaker (00:36:24.179)

Because of his coverage of immigrants

Unknown Speaker (00:36:26.179)

And how he was blaming immigrant populations

Unknown Speaker (00:36:28.179)

For spreading disease and causing outbreaks

Unknown Speaker (00:36:30.179)

Out of nowhere

Unknown Speaker (00:36:32.179)

Alex tries to defend himself then in that last clip

Unknown Speaker (00:36:34.179)

By saying he was just covering a story at ABC news

Unknown Speaker (00:36:36.179)

So why is he being so pilloried

Unknown Speaker (00:36:38.179)

For reporting true news

Unknown Speaker (00:36:40.179)

The reality of the world

Unknown Speaker (00:36:42.179)

Why

Unknown Speaker (00:36:44.179)

In fairness to Alex there was a story on ABC news

Unknown Speaker (00:36:46.179)

From February 6th 2019

Unknown Speaker (00:36:48.179)

With the headline

Unknown Speaker (00:36:50.179)

Quote patient zero in measles outbreak is a foreigner

Unknown Speaker (00:36:52.179)

Which is common as a way outbreaks start

Unknown Speaker (00:36:54.179)

Based solely on that headline

Unknown Speaker (00:36:56.179)

Alex probably feels like he's reporting things fairly

Unknown Speaker (00:36:58.179)

Clearly this measles outbreak started with a foreigner

Unknown Speaker (00:37:00.179)

As the headline says

Unknown Speaker (00:37:02.179)

So it must be one of these refugees coming from Central America

Unknown Speaker (00:37:04.179)

Those are the imaginary diseased masses

Unknown Speaker (00:37:06.179)

That Alex obsesses about after all

Unknown Speaker (00:37:08.179)

So it must be

Unknown Speaker (00:37:10.179)

It said foreigner

Unknown Speaker (00:37:12.179)

If Alex had read the actual article

Unknown Speaker (00:37:14.179)

He would be aware that the main point of the story

Unknown Speaker (00:37:16.179)

Is not that

Unknown Speaker (00:37:18.179)

Daniel Salmon of Johns Hopkins University

Unknown Speaker (00:37:20.179)

Quote stressed that the foreign individuals

Unknown Speaker (00:37:22.179)

Involved in the US measles outbreak

Unknown Speaker (00:37:24.179)

Are not illegal immigrants

Unknown Speaker (00:37:26.179)

Quote it's people who have enough wealth to travel

Unknown Speaker (00:37:28.179)

There's been ongoing measles outbreaks

Unknown Speaker (00:37:30.179)

In Europe for years and it's largely because of

Unknown Speaker (00:37:32.179)

Vaccine refusal

Unknown Speaker (00:37:34.179)

There's also right now a bit of an outbreak happening

Unknown Speaker (00:37:36.179)

In the New York Orthodox Jewish community

Unknown Speaker (00:37:38.179)

And the source of this was

Unknown Speaker (00:37:40.179)

That actual outbreak was traced back to an individual

Unknown Speaker (00:37:42.179)

Who caught measles while visiting Israel

Unknown Speaker (00:37:44.179)

Which is a super common thing

Unknown Speaker (00:37:46.179)

Not catching measles in Israel

Unknown Speaker (00:37:48.179)

But catching interesting diseases while on vacation

Unknown Speaker (00:37:50.179)

There are websites dedicated to

Unknown Speaker (00:37:52.179)

Helping people navigate exactly this sort of thing

Unknown Speaker (00:37:54.179)

Providing travel alerts specific to whatever

Unknown Speaker (00:37:56.179)

Country someone's heading to so they can get the right

Unknown Speaker (00:37:58.179)

Shots and take necessary precautions

Unknown Speaker (00:38:00.179)

Like you just went to Mexico, I'm sure you had some

Unknown Speaker (00:38:02.179)

Warnings of

Unknown Speaker (00:38:04.179)

Get this, get a diphtheria

Unknown Speaker (00:38:06.179)

Shot or whatever

Unknown Speaker (00:38:08.179)

Make sure you're current on everything

Unknown Speaker (00:38:10.179)

That sort of thing is important

Unknown Speaker (00:38:12.179)

For travel

Unknown Speaker (00:38:14.179)

Yeah vaccines are good for that, I like vaccines

Unknown Speaker (00:38:16.179)

It's not a perfect system

Unknown Speaker (00:38:18.179)

This warning people with travel warnings

Unknown Speaker (00:38:20.179)

And stuff like that

Unknown Speaker (00:38:22.179)

Can enforce that sort of preparedness

Unknown Speaker (00:38:24.179)

So sometimes people go to a foreign country

Unknown Speaker (00:38:26.179)

Catch something and unknowingly bring it back

Unknown Speaker (00:38:28.179)

To the United States

Unknown Speaker (00:38:30.179)

That's what this ABC news headline is discussing

Unknown Speaker (00:38:32.179)

Which Alex is then intentionally misrepresenting

Unknown Speaker (00:38:34.179)

In order to create his propaganda

Unknown Speaker (00:38:36.179)

That immigrants have to be stopped from entering

Unknown Speaker (00:38:38.179)

The country lest they infect everyone

Unknown Speaker (00:38:40.179)

You know

Unknown Speaker (00:38:42.179)

This is why social media companies would issue

Unknown Speaker (00:38:44.179)

Alex a warning

Unknown Speaker (00:38:46.179)

What he's doing is very very dangerous

Unknown Speaker (00:38:48.179)

This is nativist propaganda

Unknown Speaker (00:38:50.179)

It's designed to dehumanize immigrants

Unknown Speaker (00:38:52.179)

As diseased hordes that need to be repulsed

Unknown Speaker (00:38:54.179)

I can't imagine why you would think that, Dan

Unknown Speaker (00:38:56.179)

Has this ever been done before?

Unknown Speaker (00:38:58.179)

Well, when you reflect on the early stages

Unknown Speaker (00:39:00.179)

Of Nazi propaganda that led up to World War II

Unknown Speaker (00:39:02.179)

One of the things that deserves to be

Unknown Speaker (00:39:04.179)

Discussed more, even if it's discussed

Unknown Speaker (00:39:06.179)

Every day, which it's not, but it could be

Unknown Speaker (00:39:08.179)

And you still need to discuss it more

Unknown Speaker (00:39:10.179)

Is the fact that one of the primary goals of the propaganda

Unknown Speaker (00:39:12.179)

Was not just to elicit hatred of the Jews

Unknown Speaker (00:39:14.179)

And Nazi's other targets

Unknown Speaker (00:39:16.179)

Like homosexuals and the Roma

Unknown Speaker (00:39:18.179)

It's far more important, or it was to them

Unknown Speaker (00:39:20.179)

As an early step

Unknown Speaker (00:39:22.179)

To make the public not care about them

Unknown Speaker (00:39:24.179)

To quote from the

Unknown Speaker (00:39:26.179)

Holocaust Memorial Encyclopedia

Unknown Speaker (00:39:28.179)

Quote, during periods preceding new measures

Unknown Speaker (00:39:30.179)

Against Jews, propaganda campaigns

Unknown Speaker (00:39:32.179)

Created an atmosphere tolerant of violence

Unknown Speaker (00:39:34.179)

Against Jews. The goal was to encourage

Unknown Speaker (00:39:36.179)

Passivity and acceptance of anti-Jewish

Unknown Speaker (00:39:38.179)

Laws and decrees as a vehicle

Unknown Speaker (00:39:40.179)

To restore public order

Unknown Speaker (00:39:42.179)

Propaganda that demonized Jews also served

Unknown Speaker (00:39:44.179)

To prepare the German population in the

Unknown Speaker (00:39:46.179)

Context of national emergency

Unknown Speaker (00:39:48.179)

For harsher measures, such as

Unknown Speaker (00:39:50.179)

Mass deportations and eventually genocide

Unknown Speaker (00:39:52.179)

If you replace Jew

Unknown Speaker (00:39:54.179)

With immigrant or Muslim or drag queen

Unknown Speaker (00:39:56.179)

Story time participant, Alex

Unknown Speaker (00:39:58.179)

Jones' propaganda is indistinguishable

Unknown Speaker (00:40:00.179)

In intention and formula

Unknown Speaker (00:40:02.179)

From the early stages of the Third Reich

Unknown Speaker (00:40:04.179)

And his tone and rhetoric is getting

Unknown Speaker (00:40:06.179)

Way scarier

Unknown Speaker (00:40:08.179)

The fact that these platforms gave him

Unknown Speaker (00:40:10.179)

A warning speaks volumes

Unknown Speaker (00:40:12.179)

And indicates strongly that they were giving him

Unknown Speaker (00:40:14.179)

The very undeserved benefit of the doubt

Unknown Speaker (00:40:16.179)

They were trying to warn him that he was

Unknown Speaker (00:40:18.179)

Expressing ideas that mirror rationalizations

Unknown Speaker (00:40:20.179)

For past atrocities

Unknown Speaker (00:40:22.179)

And was doing so by misrepresenting an actual story

Unknown Speaker (00:40:24.179)

Imagining that he might have done it

Unknown Speaker (00:40:26.179)

By accident. My suspicion

Unknown Speaker (00:40:28.179)

Is that he was given the opportunity to make a correction

Unknown Speaker (00:40:30.179)

About his misreporting and when he didn't

Unknown Speaker (00:40:32.179)

And showed that he wouldn't

Unknown Speaker (00:40:34.179)

It became clear that he was intentionally

Unknown Speaker (00:40:36.179)

Engaging in a demonization campaign

Unknown Speaker (00:40:38.179)

Regardless

Unknown Speaker (00:40:40.179)

Of the efficacy of banning someone from

Unknown Speaker (00:40:42.179)

Social media. Alex deserves every

Unknown Speaker (00:40:44.179)

Consequence he's experiencing and probably more

Unknown Speaker (00:40:46.179)

Probably everything short of

Unknown Speaker (00:40:48.179)

Actually hurting or threatening him

Unknown Speaker (00:40:50.179)

He deserves. He deserves to be seen

Unknown Speaker (00:40:52.179)

As unwelcome

Unknown Speaker (00:40:54.179)

Wherever he goes

Unknown Speaker (00:40:56.179)

In public

Unknown Speaker (00:40:58.179)

Restaurants everywhere

Unknown Speaker (00:41:00.179)

He deserves, like this sort of behavior

Unknown Speaker (00:41:02.179)

He should be shunned

Unknown Speaker (00:41:04.179)

Well, I mean that would be an interesting

Unknown Speaker (00:41:06.179)

Way to do it. I think people would rather yell

Unknown Speaker (00:41:08.179)

At him because it's cathartic

Unknown Speaker (00:41:10.179)

Of course it could

Unknown Speaker (00:41:12.179)

Maybe a walk through the streets

Unknown Speaker (00:41:14.179)

A la Cersei. Maybe we get somebody

Unknown Speaker (00:41:16.179)

Behind him screaming shame

Unknown Speaker (00:41:18.179)

I wouldn't mind that. I wouldn't want to look at it

Unknown Speaker (00:41:20.179)

He gets to do it closed

Unknown Speaker (00:41:22.179)

Except to make sure that neck

Unknown Speaker (00:41:24.179)

Is revealed

Unknown Speaker (00:41:26.179)

So

Unknown Speaker (00:41:28.179)

You understand why it makes

Unknown Speaker (00:41:30.179)

Such a big difference to me the idea that

Unknown Speaker (00:41:32.179)

Alex is saying that they threatened to ban

Unknown Speaker (00:41:34.179)

His pages for this before

Unknown Speaker (00:41:36.179)

Because it gives a clear path

Unknown Speaker (00:41:38.179)

Of what's going on. So Alex

Unknown Speaker (00:41:40.179)

Is reporting that stuff

Unknown Speaker (00:41:42.179)

He's creating this propaganda narrative

Unknown Speaker (00:41:44.179)

Based on a

Unknown Speaker (00:41:46.179)

Misreading of a headline or the body of the story

Unknown Speaker (00:41:48.179)

Completely contradicts what he's saying

Unknown Speaker (00:41:50.179)

So yeah, I mean it's just

Unknown Speaker (00:41:52.179)

It's very clear to me what

Unknown Speaker (00:41:54.179)

Alex has accidentally revealed on this episode

Unknown Speaker (00:41:56.179)

Like no matter what spin he's

Unknown Speaker (00:41:58.179)

Going to later try and take hold

Unknown Speaker (00:42:00.179)

On this story, it's very clear

Unknown Speaker (00:42:02.179)

To me that he got a warning. He refused to

Unknown Speaker (00:42:04.179)

Change his behavior because it's more

Unknown Speaker (00:42:06.179)

Important to him to demonize immigrants

Unknown Speaker (00:42:08.179)

When pointed out that you are doing

Unknown Speaker (00:42:10.179)

This wrong in such a way that's dangerous

Unknown Speaker (00:42:12.179)

And it seeks to other

Unknown Speaker (00:42:14.179)

Sort of marginalized

Unknown Speaker (00:42:16.179)

Communities

Unknown Speaker (00:42:18.179)

He doesn't give a shit. He moves forward

Unknown Speaker (00:42:20.179)

And when the consequences of his actions

Unknown Speaker (00:42:22.179)

Come, he cries free speech

Unknown Speaker (00:42:24.179)

Cries all his pathetic

Unknown Speaker (00:42:26.179)

Wait, wait, what about me?

Unknown Speaker (00:42:28.179)

Kind of stuff. And you'll see the way he tries

Unknown Speaker (00:42:30.179)

As the episode goes on, he crafts

Unknown Speaker (00:42:32.179)

What his response is going

Unknown Speaker (00:42:34.179)

To be to it. Once he figures out

Unknown Speaker (00:42:36.179)

What angle can I take on this?

Unknown Speaker (00:42:42.179)

One of the things I find really interesting is

Unknown Speaker (00:42:44.179)

That this band is going to be

Unknown Speaker (00:42:46.179)

Far different than bands that Alex has

Unknown Speaker (00:42:48.179)

Had in the past. And we'll get into some

Unknown Speaker (00:42:50.179)

Of the reasons why as we

Unknown Speaker (00:42:52.179)

Go along, but I

Unknown Speaker (00:42:54.179)

Want to say just before we get too far

Unknown Speaker (00:42:56.179)

In, I don't

Unknown Speaker (00:42:58.179)

Care about this

Unknown Speaker (00:43:00.179)

Until we see a little bit more

Unknown Speaker (00:43:02.179)

Like if it is

Unknown Speaker (00:43:04.179)

Effective

Unknown Speaker (00:43:06.179)

In terms of diminishing his platform

Unknown Speaker (00:43:08.179)

And that sort of thing

Unknown Speaker (00:43:10.179)

Then I'm in favor of it

Unknown Speaker (00:43:12.179)

I think it's for the public's health

Unknown Speaker (00:43:14.179)

Quite frankly, and safety

Unknown Speaker (00:43:16.179)

But

Unknown Speaker (00:43:18.179)

History has shown that he's been able to

Unknown Speaker (00:43:20.179)

Flout every

Unknown Speaker (00:43:22.179)

Band that's come so far

Unknown Speaker (00:43:24.179)

He's been able to wiggle his way around the rules

Unknown Speaker (00:43:26.179)

So until there's some sort of proof

Unknown Speaker (00:43:28.179)

Of efficacy

Unknown Speaker (00:43:30.179)

He's had a very hard time getting excited

Unknown Speaker (00:43:32.179)

About some sort of band

Unknown Speaker (00:43:34.179)

Like this. Right, well the only thing I think

Unknown Speaker (00:43:36.179)

About it is, okay

Unknown Speaker (00:43:38.179)

Facebook, you opened the box

Unknown Speaker (00:43:40.179)

What's the size of the

Unknown Speaker (00:43:42.179)

Outlet that you're going to band?

Unknown Speaker (00:43:44.179)

Sure. Like, Tucker Carlson

Unknown Speaker (00:43:46.179)

Has said similar shit.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:48.179)

Are you going to have the balls to go

Unknown Speaker (00:43:50.179)

After somebody who's at Fox News?

Unknown Speaker (00:43:52.179)

Yeah, I mean, it's

Unknown Speaker (00:43:54.179)

It's interesting to see

Unknown Speaker (00:43:56.179)

Where it goes. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (00:43:58.179)

That's the other problem with it though

Unknown Speaker (00:44:00.179)

Is that

Unknown Speaker (00:44:02.179)

Whatever direction it does go

Unknown Speaker (00:44:04.179)

Will confirm Alex's

Unknown Speaker (00:44:06.179)

Narratives. You know what I mean?

Unknown Speaker (00:44:08.179)

Yes, absolutely

Unknown Speaker (00:44:10.179)

Tucker Carlson has expressed a lot of these

Unknown Speaker (00:44:12.179)

Dangerous ideas

Unknown Speaker (00:44:14.179)

Whether it's about Muslims or, yeah

Unknown Speaker (00:44:16.179)

So, you know, you kick them off

Unknown Speaker (00:44:18.179)

Social media, that only confirms

Unknown Speaker (00:44:20.179)

Alex's screaming about how they're

Unknown Speaker (00:44:22.179)

Coming for you next. They take me out

Unknown Speaker (00:44:24.179)

And then they're coming for you next

Unknown Speaker (00:44:26.179)

So, there's sort of a self-fulfilling

Unknown Speaker (00:44:28.179)

Prophecy to pretty much everything Alex

Unknown Speaker (00:44:30.179)

Is saying. Yeah. It's like

Unknown Speaker (00:44:32.179)

If nothing happens, then he wins

Unknown Speaker (00:44:34.179)

And if all those things happen

Unknown Speaker (00:44:36.179)

Then he gets to pretend he was right

Unknown Speaker (00:44:38.179)

Right, and even if they had never done that

Unknown Speaker (00:44:40.179)

He would still come with that narrative

Unknown Speaker (00:44:42.179)

That they're trying to ban everybody, so

Unknown Speaker (00:44:44.179)

Why not ban him?

Unknown Speaker (00:44:46.179)

He's going to say the same shit either way

Unknown Speaker (00:44:48.179)

In one circumstance, he just

Unknown Speaker (00:44:50.179)

Gets to say it softer. Yeah. You know?

Unknown Speaker (00:44:52.179)

Yeah, I know. It's hard

Unknown Speaker (00:44:54.179)

I'm glad I don't have to make that decision

Unknown Speaker (00:44:56.179)

So, Alex has found out that he's getting

Unknown Speaker (00:44:58.179)

Banned from all these places

Unknown Speaker (00:45:00.179)

But he doesn't care. He doesn't give a shit

Unknown Speaker (00:45:02.179)

You know why? Because Leanne

Unknown Speaker (00:45:04.179)

McAdoo is there. Oh, that's nice

Unknown Speaker (00:45:06.179)

She's a comforting presence. Alex says that

Unknown Speaker (00:45:08.179)

But I find it unconvincing

Unknown Speaker (00:45:10.179)

Oh, yeah? How's it going to go? Listen to the tone of his voice

Unknown Speaker (00:45:12.179)

This is awesome to have Leanne

Unknown Speaker (00:45:14.179)

Back. I don't even care if I'm getting banned

Unknown Speaker (00:45:16.179)

On Facebook even more because Leanne's here

Unknown Speaker (00:45:18.179)

It's like a member of the family

Unknown Speaker (00:45:20.179)

We'll be right back, stay with us

Unknown Speaker (00:45:28.179)

Between that weird

Unknown Speaker (00:45:30.179)

That weird pause

Unknown Speaker (00:45:32.179)

And then we'll be right back

Unknown Speaker (00:45:34.179)

And Leanne's real soft

Unknown Speaker (00:45:36.179)

Awkward laugh

Unknown Speaker (00:45:38.179)

I don't even care

Unknown Speaker (00:45:40.179)

Because you're here Leanne

Unknown Speaker (00:45:42.179)

Ha ha ha

Unknown Speaker (00:45:44.179)

Not good

Unknown Speaker (00:45:46.179)

So in this next clip

Unknown Speaker (00:45:48.179)

Alex and Leanne get to have a little bit of a conversation

Unknown Speaker (00:45:50.179)

About how there's no empathy online

Unknown Speaker (00:45:52.179)

There's a lack of empathy

Unknown Speaker (00:45:54.179)

In the world and that's something that needs to be fixed

Unknown Speaker (00:45:56.179)

Now the example that they

Unknown Speaker (00:45:58.179)

End up using as a lack of empathy

Unknown Speaker (00:46:00.179)

I'd like you to pay close attention to this

Unknown Speaker (00:46:02.179)

And realize that it's his own

Unknown Speaker (00:46:04.179)

Fans

Unknown Speaker (00:46:06.179)

And people who

Unknown Speaker (00:46:08.179)

Were his fans and then turned

Unknown Speaker (00:46:10.179)

On him that he is using as an example

Unknown Speaker (00:46:12.179)

Of the lack of empathy that exists

Unknown Speaker (00:46:14.179)

Online

Unknown Speaker (00:46:16.179)

I know your grandmother had

Unknown Speaker (00:46:18.179)

Your private stuff

Unknown Speaker (00:46:20.179)

She had a brain tumor

Unknown Speaker (00:46:22.179)

And then your mom got cancer

Unknown Speaker (00:46:24.179)

And your dad died

Unknown Speaker (00:46:26.179)

He went through a lot the last few years

Unknown Speaker (00:46:28.179)

And the enemy

Unknown Speaker (00:46:30.179)

Turned it into

Unknown Speaker (00:46:32.179)

I raped you or something is why you left

Unknown Speaker (00:46:34.179)

That's what the internet does, it's sick

Unknown Speaker (00:46:36.179)

That was another reason

Unknown Speaker (00:46:38.179)

Why I just shut it all down

Unknown Speaker (00:46:40.179)

Because everyone was creating

Unknown Speaker (00:46:42.179)

When it rains it pours

Unknown Speaker (00:46:44.179)

Last year was hard

Unknown Speaker (00:46:46.179)

Everybody here in the studio, we lost Joe Jennings

Unknown Speaker (00:46:48.179)

And a few of my

Unknown Speaker (00:46:50.179)

Friends' mothers

Unknown Speaker (00:46:52.179)

He was such a sweetheart too

Unknown Speaker (00:46:54.179)

It was a rough year, it was a very tough time

Unknown Speaker (00:46:56.179)

And a lot of people out there

Unknown Speaker (00:46:58.179)

That want to come up with their own

Unknown Speaker (00:47:00.179)

Conspiracy theories about why I wasn't around

Unknown Speaker (00:47:02.179)

It's just

Unknown Speaker (00:47:04.179)

People need to stop and realize

Unknown Speaker (00:47:06.179)

The energy that they're putting out in the world

Unknown Speaker (00:47:08.179)

It's evil, it's evil

Unknown Speaker (00:47:10.179)

Just to make up

Unknown Speaker (00:47:12.179)

Leanne Jones broke Leanne's jaw

Unknown Speaker (00:47:14.179)

That's why she's gone

Unknown Speaker (00:47:16.179)

We've never even kissed each other

Unknown Speaker (00:47:18.179)

It's all a damn lie, her dad died

Unknown Speaker (00:47:20.179)

Her mom had cancer, her grandmother

Unknown Speaker (00:47:22.179)

It's like this is the real world people

Unknown Speaker (00:47:24.179)

This isn't a joke

Unknown Speaker (00:47:26.179)

And that's what we're kind of losing

Unknown Speaker (00:47:28.179)

What we need to get back to

Unknown Speaker (00:47:30.179)

Is our compassion for each other

Unknown Speaker (00:47:32.179)

And empathy

Unknown Speaker (00:47:34.179)

I think that you can see a little bit of those

Unknown Speaker (00:47:36.179)

Hippy instincts that Leanne

Unknown Speaker (00:47:38.179)

McAdoo had before she came into Infowars

Unknown Speaker (00:47:40.179)

At the surface and the time that she's been away

Unknown Speaker (00:47:42.179)

Because what she's expressing I think is

Unknown Speaker (00:47:44.179)

Not an awful thing

Unknown Speaker (00:47:46.179)

The idea that we

Unknown Speaker (00:47:48.179)

Are detached from some of our empathy

Unknown Speaker (00:47:50.179)

That we should have towards other people

Unknown Speaker (00:47:52.179)

Right, all of those theories about

Unknown Speaker (00:47:54.179)

Alex having an affair with Leanne

Unknown Speaker (00:47:56.179)

Him hurting her, any of those sorts of things

Unknown Speaker (00:47:58.179)

That being the reason that she's gone

Unknown Speaker (00:48:00.179)

No one

Unknown Speaker (00:48:02.179)

Who criticizes Infowars

Unknown Speaker (00:48:04.179)

Other than us know who Leanne

Unknown Speaker (00:48:06.179)

McAdoo is

Unknown Speaker (00:48:08.179)

No one knows who she is

Unknown Speaker (00:48:10.179)

Only Infowars people

Unknown Speaker (00:48:12.179)

None of your enemies

Unknown Speaker (00:48:14.179)

Know who your staff is

Unknown Speaker (00:48:16.179)

Remember when

Unknown Speaker (00:48:18.179)

That video of Owen Schroyer getting yelled at

Unknown Speaker (00:48:20.179)

By a little kid and her giving him the finger

Unknown Speaker (00:48:22.179)

Remember when that went around

Unknown Speaker (00:48:24.179)

No one knew who Owen Schroyer was

Unknown Speaker (00:48:26.179)

They just said Infowars employer

Unknown Speaker (00:48:28.179)

Gets flipped off by a child

Unknown Speaker (00:48:30.179)

No one knows who David Knight is

Unknown Speaker (00:48:32.179)

No one knows who any

Unknown Speaker (00:48:34.179)

Of these people are

Unknown Speaker (00:48:36.179)

They get sued

Unknown Speaker (00:48:38.179)

And so like right now

Unknown Speaker (00:48:40.179)

The courts know who Leanne McAdoo

Unknown Speaker (00:48:42.179)

Is because she's being sued about that Charlottesville thing

Unknown Speaker (00:48:44.179)

But like no

Unknown Speaker (00:48:46.179)

No one who is trying to attack Alex

Unknown Speaker (00:48:48.179)

Made these theories up

Unknown Speaker (00:48:50.179)

They were his fans and his jaded

Unknown Speaker (00:48:52.179)

Ex-fans who have

Unknown Speaker (00:48:54.179)

Toxic spaces online

Unknown Speaker (00:48:56.179)

That they talk about how Leanne's

Unknown Speaker (00:48:58.179)

Awful because her ex-boyfriend was black

Unknown Speaker (00:49:00.179)

And stuff like that, legitimately

Unknown Speaker (00:49:02.179)

That's something that people

Unknown Speaker (00:49:04.179)

Would say

Unknown Speaker (00:49:06.179)

I don't think we would say that

Unknown Speaker (00:49:08.179)

I don't think so

Unknown Speaker (00:49:10.179)

I don't think that one was us

Unknown Speaker (00:49:12.179)

I'm not saying that as an us thing

Unknown Speaker (00:49:14.179)

No

Unknown Speaker (00:49:16.179)

I don't take this sort of thing personally at all

Unknown Speaker (00:49:18.179)

I'm saying that I've observed

Unknown Speaker (00:49:20.179)

Message boards and places like that

Unknown Speaker (00:49:22.179)

And the people who talk about

Unknown Speaker (00:49:24.179)

The sort of stuff that they're complaining about

Unknown Speaker (00:49:26.179)

Are all Infowars fans

Unknown Speaker (00:49:28.179)

Or former Infowars fans

Unknown Speaker (00:49:30.179)

Who think that Alex dodges the Jewish question

Unknown Speaker (00:49:32.179)

Stuff like that

Unknown Speaker (00:49:34.179)

Yeah, that entire clip

Unknown Speaker (00:49:36.179)

Should be grounds

Unknown Speaker (00:49:38.179)

For some sort of capital

Unknown Speaker (00:49:40.179)

Punishment

Unknown Speaker (00:49:42.179)

Along the lines of a slap

Unknown Speaker (00:49:44.179)

I think that Alex saying that

Unknown Speaker (00:49:46.179)

With a straight face

Unknown Speaker (00:49:48.179)

Requires a slap to the face, right?

Unknown Speaker (00:49:50.179)

Him saying this is

Unknown Speaker (00:49:52.179)

Real life, guys

Unknown Speaker (00:49:54.179)

A bucket of water, maybe

Unknown Speaker (00:49:56.179)

Like a bracing, cold bucket of water

Unknown Speaker (00:49:58.179)

Maybe a backhand

Unknown Speaker (00:50:00.179)

How about a dynasty slap

Unknown Speaker (00:50:02.179)

I have to take a hard line here

Unknown Speaker (00:50:04.179)

Because I don't endorse physical violence

Unknown Speaker (00:50:06.179)

But a bracing, cold bucket of water

Unknown Speaker (00:50:08.179)

Bracing, cold bucket of water?

Unknown Speaker (00:50:10.179)

I'm for it

Unknown Speaker (00:50:12.179)

Because sometimes that will jostle you back into reality

Unknown Speaker (00:50:14.179)

Because that's insane

Unknown Speaker (00:50:16.179)

Literally, she said

Unknown Speaker (00:50:18.179)

Some people online want to come up with their own

Unknown Speaker (00:50:20.179)

Conspiracy theories

Unknown Speaker (00:50:22.179)

And they wind up hurting people

Unknown Speaker (00:50:24.179)

I can't help but think

Unknown Speaker (00:50:26.179)

That something needs to be done

Unknown Speaker (00:50:28.179)

I think Diane really wants to be there

Unknown Speaker (00:50:30.179)

I don't think so either

Unknown Speaker (00:50:32.179)

I think that she's still wrapped up in this lawsuit

Unknown Speaker (00:50:34.179)

And probably wants that to go away

Unknown Speaker (00:50:36.179)

Yeah, of course

Unknown Speaker (00:50:38.179)

I don't get the sense from listening to this

Unknown Speaker (00:50:40.179)

And I'm not letting her off the hook

Unknown Speaker (00:50:42.179)

Or anything like that, I still think she's complicit

Unknown Speaker (00:50:44.179)

But she is not as enthusiastic a participant

Unknown Speaker (00:50:46.179)

In this as Alex wants her to be

Unknown Speaker (00:50:48.179)

Oh, of course not

Unknown Speaker (00:50:50.179)

In this interview

Unknown Speaker (00:50:52.179)

She's way off base

Unknown Speaker (00:50:54.179)

In terms of who she's pointing the finger at

Unknown Speaker (00:50:56.179)

The fact that a finger should be pointed

Unknown Speaker (00:50:58.179)

At people's lack of empathy

Unknown Speaker (00:51:00.179)

I'll go with you on it

Unknown Speaker (00:51:02.179)

I'll go with you halfway

Unknown Speaker (00:51:04.179)

But you need to look in the mirror

Unknown Speaker (00:51:06.179)

Would those people

Unknown Speaker (00:51:08.179)

Exist without

Unknown Speaker (00:51:10.179)

You

Unknown Speaker (00:51:12.179)

Without this Infowars propaganda

Unknown Speaker (00:51:14.179)

World

Unknown Speaker (00:51:16.179)

So you're saying that

Unknown Speaker (00:51:18.179)

Had Infowars not created a rabid fan base

Unknown Speaker (00:51:20.179)

Of conspiracy theory-loving lunatics

Unknown Speaker (00:51:22.179)

Who go off at the drop of a hat

Unknown Speaker (00:51:24.179)

On a message board

Unknown Speaker (00:51:26.179)

Screaming about all kinds of different violent actions

Unknown Speaker (00:51:28.179)

That they want done

Unknown Speaker (00:51:30.179)

If they didn't have them

Unknown Speaker (00:51:32.179)

Then would Infowars employees

Unknown Speaker (00:51:34.179)

Not be harassed by them?

Unknown Speaker (00:51:36.179)

An Infowars employee leaving

Unknown Speaker (00:51:38.179)

To go take care of her ailing family members

Unknown Speaker (00:51:40.179)

Wouldn't be seen as something suspicious

Unknown Speaker (00:51:42.179)

Except in that environment

Unknown Speaker (00:51:44.179)

That you have been an active participant

Unknown Speaker (00:51:46.179)

In creating

Unknown Speaker (00:51:48.179)

So

Unknown Speaker (00:51:50.179)

Boy, I don't want to say goes around comes around

Unknown Speaker (00:51:52.179)

It's not quite that

Unknown Speaker (00:51:54.179)

I still don't like that people get

Unknown Speaker (00:51:56.179)

These sorts of

Unknown Speaker (00:51:58.179)

It's harassment

Unknown Speaker (00:52:00.179)

On some level

Unknown Speaker (00:52:02.179)

And I'm not for it

Unknown Speaker (00:52:04.179)

You gotta recognize what the soup is made of

Unknown Speaker (00:52:06.179)

That's it

Unknown Speaker (00:52:08.179)

That's all

Unknown Speaker (00:52:10.179)

That's my only position on it

Unknown Speaker (00:52:12.179)

Yes, these are the ingredients

Unknown Speaker (00:52:14.179)

You made that soup

Unknown Speaker (00:52:16.179)

You don't have to eat it

Unknown Speaker (00:52:18.179)

You should be forced to eat it

Unknown Speaker (00:52:20.179)

That metaphor doesn't really work

Unknown Speaker (00:52:22.179)

No, I think they are eating the soup

Unknown Speaker (00:52:24.179)

Yeah, and we're in the soup

Unknown Speaker (00:52:26.179)

As Woodhouse would say, PG Woodhouse

Unknown Speaker (00:52:28.179)

We're in the soup up to our thorax

Unknown Speaker (00:52:30.179)

Yeah, it's high, it's getting higher

Unknown Speaker (00:52:32.179)

So in this next clip, Alex has finally figured out

Unknown Speaker (00:52:34.179)

How he's going to spin the ban

Unknown Speaker (00:52:36.179)

And I think partially it's because

Unknown Speaker (00:52:38.179)

Louis Farrakhan was also banned

Unknown Speaker (00:52:40.179)

At the same time

Unknown Speaker (00:52:42.179)

And Louis Farrakhan was banned

Unknown Speaker (00:52:44.179)

For his anti-Semitic statements

Unknown Speaker (00:52:46.179)

And positions

Unknown Speaker (00:52:48.179)

That everyone who got banned

Unknown Speaker (00:52:50.179)

Is being claimed to be an anti-Semite

Unknown Speaker (00:52:52.179)

Nice, nice move

Unknown Speaker (00:52:54.179)

That's a good one

Unknown Speaker (00:52:56.179)

So here's him expressing that

Unknown Speaker (00:52:58.179)

I mean, the media knows

Unknown Speaker (00:53:00.179)

That I'm not anti-Israel

Unknown Speaker (00:53:02.179)

And if I want to be anti-Israel, that's my right

Unknown Speaker (00:53:04.179)

But they know that I'm one of the hottest figures

Unknown Speaker (00:53:06.179)

For decades attacked on the internet

Unknown Speaker (00:53:08.179)

By anti-Semites

Unknown Speaker (00:53:10.179)

Who are mainly leftist funded

Unknown Speaker (00:53:12.179)

Who want to control the narrative

Unknown Speaker (00:53:14.179)

And want to make nationalism racist

Unknown Speaker (00:53:16.179)

I'm banned from Facebook for being anti-Semitic

Unknown Speaker (00:53:18.179)

It's just outrageous BS

Unknown Speaker (00:53:20.179)

It's just insane

Unknown Speaker (00:53:22.179)

I don't hate anybody because they're Jewish

Unknown Speaker (00:53:24.179)

Or Iranian, or Mexican

Unknown Speaker (00:53:26.179)

I like certain people

Unknown Speaker (00:53:28.179)

I like a lot of Jews, there's a bunch of Jews I dislike

Unknown Speaker (00:53:30.179)

And I should not even explain that

Unknown Speaker (00:53:32.179)

And I'm not going to play race cards here

Unknown Speaker (00:53:34.179)

It's just that

Unknown Speaker (00:53:36.179)

I never even thought

Unknown Speaker (00:53:38.179)

Oh, my ex-wife's part Jewish

Unknown Speaker (00:53:40.179)

So that means my kids can be called Jewish

Unknown Speaker (00:53:42.179)

And anti-Semites talk about how they want to get my kids

Unknown Speaker (00:53:44.179)

My kids are just Americans and they're patriots

Unknown Speaker (00:53:46.179)

And whatever they want to believe is what they want to believe

Unknown Speaker (00:53:48.179)

Matrilineal heritage

Unknown Speaker (00:53:50.179)

They also want to fight as Christians

Unknown Speaker (00:53:52.179)

They have the right of return

Unknown Speaker (00:53:54.179)

It's sick, it's sick to have kids that are part Jewish

Unknown Speaker (00:53:56.179)

And be called an anti-Semite

Unknown Speaker (00:53:58.179)

But I've never said a damn thing against Jews

Unknown Speaker (00:54:00.179)

I mean, Zuckerberg and your managers, screw you

Unknown Speaker (00:54:02.179)

You're dicks, man

Unknown Speaker (00:54:04.179)

You're jerks, man

Unknown Speaker (00:54:06.179)

I like that

Unknown Speaker (00:54:08.179)

You're dicks

Unknown Speaker (00:54:10.179)

Did he just do the like

Unknown Speaker (00:54:12.179)

You guys are mean

Unknown Speaker (00:54:14.179)

I mean, there's shades of it

Unknown Speaker (00:54:16.179)

And we know from going back to like 2009

Unknown Speaker (00:54:18.179)

period, Alex was very anti-Israel

Unknown Speaker (00:54:20.179)

Or at least pretty anti-Israel

Unknown Speaker (00:54:22.179)

And he did

Unknown Speaker (00:54:24.179)

use ideas about dual citizenship

Unknown Speaker (00:54:26.179)

and right of return

Unknown Speaker (00:54:28.179)

In order to make

Unknown Speaker (00:54:30.179)

accusations about people's

Unknown Speaker (00:54:32.179)

allegiances with Israel

Unknown Speaker (00:54:34.179)

Which is, now that I know that

Unknown Speaker (00:54:36.179)

his kids probably do have right of return

Unknown Speaker (00:54:38.179)

Well, it doesn't matter

Unknown Speaker (00:54:40.179)

It's all nonsense

Unknown Speaker (00:54:42.179)

At the time, he was completely

Unknown Speaker (00:54:44.179)

denying the fact that his

Unknown Speaker (00:54:46.179)

ex-wife, or his now ex-wife

Unknown Speaker (00:54:48.179)

had any Jewish heritage at all

Unknown Speaker (00:54:50.179)

Now, he's totally fine with that

Unknown Speaker (00:54:52.179)

being a big part of it

Unknown Speaker (00:54:54.179)

And decrying that people are talking about the idea

Unknown Speaker (00:54:56.179)

that his kids are part Jewish

Unknown Speaker (00:54:58.179)

I mean, you pointing out the right of return

Unknown Speaker (00:55:00.179)

thing is sort of poking fun

Unknown Speaker (00:55:02.179)

at the idea that that was a piece of

Unknown Speaker (00:55:04.179)

Alex's own rhetoric

Unknown Speaker (00:55:06.179)

It's silly to see how completely

Unknown Speaker (00:55:08.179)

inverted

Unknown Speaker (00:55:10.179)

it is now, and it's not

Unknown Speaker (00:55:12.179)

because he's in the pocket of Israel

Unknown Speaker (00:55:14.179)

or anything like that, it's convenience

Unknown Speaker (00:55:16.179)

He is looking

Unknown Speaker (00:55:18.179)

for something simple

Unknown Speaker (00:55:20.179)

And this is an easy way to let himself

Unknown Speaker (00:55:22.179)

off the hook for all of the, well

Unknown Speaker (00:55:24.179)

let's say, deeply anti-Semitic

Unknown Speaker (00:55:26.179)

trends that go throughout his rhetoric

Unknown Speaker (00:55:28.179)

and worldview, even if he doesn't say

Unknown Speaker (00:55:30.179)

I hate Jews or something like that

Unknown Speaker (00:55:32.179)

That doesn't mean that most of his ideas of who

Unknown Speaker (00:55:34.179)

the globalists are aren't based on archaic

Unknown Speaker (00:55:36.179)

anti-Semitism

Unknown Speaker (00:55:38.179)

That doesn't let you off the hook for those sorts of things

Unknown Speaker (00:55:40.179)

Yeah, and let's be honest

Unknown Speaker (00:55:42.179)

if it was the early 1930s

Unknown Speaker (00:55:44.179)

he would be demonizing Jews all over the place

Unknown Speaker (00:55:46.179)

You bet

Unknown Speaker (00:55:48.179)

Whatever's popular to demonize

Unknown Speaker (00:55:50.179)

he's going to be on the forefront

Unknown Speaker (00:55:52.179)

Well, wherever the money is

Unknown Speaker (00:55:54.179)

Wherever the populist

Unknown Speaker (00:55:56.179)

in heavy quotes

Unknown Speaker (00:55:58.179)

agitation money lies, you will go

Unknown Speaker (00:56:00.179)

as we've seen from looking at him

Unknown Speaker (00:56:02.179)

over the course of the years

Unknown Speaker (00:56:04.179)

So, anyway

Unknown Speaker (00:56:06.179)

So that's what he's decided the story

Unknown Speaker (00:56:08.179)

is going to be, is that they're accusing him of being

Unknown Speaker (00:56:10.179)

anti-Semitic and that's why he was kicked off

Unknown Speaker (00:56:12.179)

And they're a bunch of dicks

Unknown Speaker (00:56:14.179)

I'm fine with that, I'll actually

Unknown Speaker (00:56:16.179)

join him on that

Unknown Speaker (00:56:18.179)

If this was all just people calling

Unknown Speaker (00:56:20.179)

Zuckerberg a dick, I'm in

Unknown Speaker (00:56:22.179)

We're jumping into that gravy boat

Unknown Speaker (00:56:24.179)

right there

Unknown Speaker (00:56:26.179)

In this next clip

Unknown Speaker (00:56:28.179)

Leanne gets a little bit heady

Unknown Speaker (00:56:30.179)

She's talking about how she was out in

Unknown Speaker (00:56:32.179)

the, like, you know, get outside the city

Unknown Speaker (00:56:34.179)

you look up, you see the stars and they're huge

Unknown Speaker (00:56:36.179)

Alright, I'm liking this

Unknown Speaker (00:56:38.179)

If we had esoteric Alex, this would

Unknown Speaker (00:56:40.179)

have been a fantastic conversation

Unknown Speaker (00:56:42.179)

It could have been

Unknown Speaker (00:56:44.179)

So she's trying to give, like, sort of

Unknown Speaker (00:56:46.179)

some ideas about the scale of the

Unknown Speaker (00:56:48.179)

universe and that sort of thing

Unknown Speaker (00:56:50.179)

We're so small within it, and if we could get back to our

Unknown Speaker (00:56:52.179)

rural roots, that sort of thing, we could

Unknown Speaker (00:56:54.179)

look up to the sky and see how

Unknown Speaker (00:56:56.179)

small we are in the grand scheme of things

Unknown Speaker (00:56:58.179)

And then Alex goes Project

Unknown Speaker (00:57:00.179)

Camelot on our asses

Unknown Speaker (00:57:02.179)

If we were able to, like, back in the day

Unknown Speaker (00:57:04.179)

you know, people were able to see

Unknown Speaker (00:57:06.179)

the sky like that, it would really put

Unknown Speaker (00:57:08.179)

how small we are in perspective

Unknown Speaker (00:57:10.179)

and how the little trivial stories

Unknown Speaker (00:57:12.179)

that they're forcing us to be really

Unknown Speaker (00:57:14.179)

angry about These little people

Unknown Speaker (00:57:16.179)

are making us focus on them and make them gods

Unknown Speaker (00:57:18.179)

instead of just looking at the larger universe

Unknown Speaker (00:57:20.179)

And by the way, I remember being in Monument Valley, Utah

Unknown Speaker (00:57:22.179)

when I was like 10 years old

Unknown Speaker (00:57:24.179)

and staying up almost all night and drinking coffee with my dad

Unknown Speaker (00:57:26.179)

because you could see satellites

Unknown Speaker (00:57:28.179)

going me, me, me, and you could also see

Unknown Speaker (00:57:30.179)

like crafts going like whatever

Unknown Speaker (00:57:32.179)

they were, and it's like, whoa

Unknown Speaker (00:57:34.179)

this is, like, incredible

Unknown Speaker (00:57:36.179)

We have to transcend realizing Hillary

Unknown Speaker (00:57:38.179)

Clinton's not in charge

Unknown Speaker (00:57:40.179)

Yeah, you guys are right on time

Unknown Speaker (00:57:42.179)

for that Alex is

Unknown Speaker (00:57:44.179)

saying he saw spaceships

Unknown Speaker (00:57:46.179)

some saucers? He saw a couple of

Unknown Speaker (00:57:48.179)

saucers And that Hillary

Unknown Speaker (00:57:50.179)

isn't in charge

Unknown Speaker (00:57:52.179)

Presumably, because that

Unknown Speaker (00:57:54.179)

thought followed the last one

Unknown Speaker (00:57:56.179)

implies that he's saying those aliens

Unknown Speaker (00:57:58.179)

are in charge, right?

Unknown Speaker (00:58:00.179)

Oh boy

Unknown Speaker (00:58:02.179)

Doesn't it? Doesn't it seem to

Unknown Speaker (00:58:04.179)

imply that? I don't know

Unknown Speaker (00:58:06.179)

I think, I don't know if he's necessarily

Unknown Speaker (00:58:08.179)

going straight saucers

Unknown Speaker (00:58:10.179)

Alright, alright, I'll withdraw it but

Unknown Speaker (00:58:12.179)

I still think it's there I get

Unknown Speaker (00:58:14.179)

where you're coming from Alright, so let's move along

Unknown Speaker (00:58:16.179)

I just hate that, it's so, why the fuck

Unknown Speaker (00:58:18.179)

did we create cities if the fucking sky

Unknown Speaker (00:58:20.179)

was so great Cities are great, skies

Unknown Speaker (00:58:22.179)

are great too I can

Unknown Speaker (00:58:24.179)

I can see both sides of this

Unknown Speaker (00:58:26.179)

I like to camp, I love to go out there

Unknown Speaker (00:58:28.179)

get my hands dirty How dare you talk about the

Unknown Speaker (00:58:30.179)

out of doors to me? I love it

Unknown Speaker (00:58:32.179)

Disgusting You gotta go camping sometime Never

Unknown Speaker (00:58:34.179)

So, in this next clip, Leanne

Unknown Speaker (00:58:36.179)

complains about how

Unknown Speaker (00:58:38.179)

I want you to put your mic down

Unknown Speaker (00:58:40.179)

for my explanation of this because you're just

Unknown Speaker (00:58:42.179)

going to yell at me I just want to get it out

Unknown Speaker (00:58:44.179)

in one sentence Okay

Unknown Speaker (00:58:46.179)

Because it's so crazy

Unknown Speaker (00:58:48.179)

Leanne is complaining about the

Unknown Speaker (00:58:50.179)

idea that there are these stories

Unknown Speaker (00:58:52.179)

about Alex Jones getting banned

Unknown Speaker (00:58:54.179)

and there's nuance in the story

Unknown Speaker (00:58:56.179)

but people are just going to read the

Unknown Speaker (00:58:58.179)

headlines of the stories about Alex

Unknown Speaker (00:59:00.179)

being banned and then believe bad

Unknown Speaker (00:59:02.179)

things about Alex, which is

Unknown Speaker (00:59:04.179)

crazy It's simple

Unknown Speaker (00:59:06.179)

I mean the globalists had thought they had American

Unknown Speaker (00:59:08.179)

under its control and now that's not happening

Unknown Speaker (00:59:10.179)

so they're freaking out I

Unknown Speaker (00:59:12.179)

want to come back and take a few calls on censorship

Unknown Speaker (00:59:14.179)

and what's happening but Leanne

Unknown Speaker (00:59:16.179)

again

Unknown Speaker (00:59:18.179)

Drudge is linked to us right now, people are asking why this is

Unknown Speaker (00:59:20.179)

happening you read these

Unknown Speaker (00:59:22.179)

articles you've got them right there it says we're purging

Unknown Speaker (00:59:24.179)

Alex Jones and they

Unknown Speaker (00:59:26.179)

don't even give a reason why except talking about anti-Semitism

Unknown Speaker (00:59:28.179)

Right and they know people because

Unknown Speaker (00:59:30.179)

people have already

Unknown Speaker (00:59:32.179)

quote unquote evolved to the point where they don't even

Unknown Speaker (00:59:34.179)

read the articles they just read the

Unknown Speaker (00:59:36.179)

headlines they read the headlines and they read

Unknown Speaker (00:59:38.179)

the 150 characters that might

Unknown Speaker (00:59:40.179)

be in a Facebook post

Unknown Speaker (00:59:42.179)

Your boss who you're sitting next to

Unknown Speaker (00:59:44.179)

is the king of just reading

Unknown Speaker (00:59:46.179)

headlines and

Unknown Speaker (00:59:48.179)

has already said on this episode

Unknown Speaker (00:59:50.179)

that Facebook gave him a warning

Unknown Speaker (00:59:52.179)

about a story he was misrepresenting

Unknown Speaker (00:59:54.179)

because most likely

Unknown Speaker (00:59:56.179)

he was operating entirely off

Unknown Speaker (00:59:58.179)

assumptions he'd made about a headline

Unknown Speaker (01:00:00.179)

this is nonsense bring back the stocks

Unknown Speaker (01:00:02.179)

bring back the stocks I want

Unknown Speaker (01:00:04.179)

them in stocks I want people throwing

Unknown Speaker (01:00:06.179)

lettuce at their face for 24 hours

Unknown Speaker (01:00:08.179)

only soft lettuce soft lettuce

Unknown Speaker (01:00:10.179)

yes without E. coli

Unknown Speaker (01:00:12.179)

absolutely 99%

Unknown Speaker (01:00:14.179)

you can put

Unknown Speaker (01:00:16.179)

one quarter of a bug in

Unknown Speaker (01:00:18.179)

each piece of lettuce one quarter of a bug

Unknown Speaker (01:00:20.179)

one quarter of a bug that's what's acceptable with

Unknown Speaker (01:00:22.179)

the FDA standard for throwing soft lettuce

Unknown Speaker (01:00:24.179)

at people all right I hadn't read that

Unknown Speaker (01:00:26.179)

it's in that file it's been in there for a long time

Unknown Speaker (01:00:28.179)

so speaking of me now reading that filing it turns

Unknown Speaker (01:00:30.179)

out that Alex is saying that he's being

Unknown Speaker (01:00:32.179)

banned for being anti-Semitic

Unknown Speaker (01:00:34.179)

and all that stuff but

Unknown Speaker (01:00:36.179)

accidentally reveals in this next clip he hadn't read

Unknown Speaker (01:00:38.179)

any of those articles because there's a major

Unknown Speaker (01:00:40.179)

piece of it that he missed I

Unknown Speaker (01:00:42.179)

hadn't read this we need to get Paul on immediately

Unknown Speaker (01:00:44.179)

Paul Joseph Watson was banned

Unknown Speaker (01:00:46.179)

he was the real target of this he was

Unknown Speaker (01:00:48.179)

slang so he didn't

Unknown Speaker (01:00:50.179)

even know that Paul had been banned

Unknown Speaker (01:00:52.179)

along with him which means he hadn't read

Unknown Speaker (01:00:54.179)

most of the headline

Unknown Speaker (01:00:56.179)

he didn't even read the headlines yeah

Unknown Speaker (01:00:58.179)

so I mentioned this earlier he only made it through

Unknown Speaker (01:01:00.179)

120 characters of the tweet

Unknown Speaker (01:01:02.179)

so I mentioned

Unknown Speaker (01:01:04.179)

a little bit earlier in the past these social

Unknown Speaker (01:01:06.179)

media bands have been really big duds

Unknown Speaker (01:01:08.179)

they've been really easy for Alex to get

Unknown Speaker (01:01:10.179)

around in part because he has a dedicated

Unknown Speaker (01:01:12.179)

staff of employees who could keep making

Unknown Speaker (01:01:14.179)

vaguely named pages whenever

Unknown Speaker (01:01:16.179)

one of his main ones got taken down

Unknown Speaker (01:01:18.179)

as Alex has said in the past when they caught

Unknown Speaker (01:01:20.179)

off one of my tentacles three more grow back

Unknown Speaker (01:01:22.179)

which is definitely imagery that

Unknown Speaker (01:01:24.179)

makes him sound like the hero of this story

Unknown Speaker (01:01:26.179)

pale hydra right

Unknown Speaker (01:01:28.179)

this particular ban may prove to be

Unknown Speaker (01:01:30.179)

more effective as it's pointed out

Unknown Speaker (01:01:32.179)

by in an article

Unknown Speaker (01:01:34.179)

out of Wired Facebook and Instagram

Unknown Speaker (01:01:36.179)

say that quote all their personal

Unknown Speaker (01:01:38.179)

and professional accounts or any accounts

Unknown Speaker (01:01:40.179)

that appear to represent them or their

Unknown Speaker (01:01:42.179)

organization are no longer permitted

Unknown Speaker (01:01:44.179)

on either platform

Unknown Speaker (01:01:46.179)

the quote any account

Unknown Speaker (01:01:48.179)

that appears to represent them part

Unknown Speaker (01:01:50.179)

is going to be devastating for Alex

Unknown Speaker (01:01:52.179)

I believe yeah

Unknown Speaker (01:01:54.179)

I have zero faith in social media outlets

Unknown Speaker (01:01:56.179)

to protect their users and I have zero faith in

Unknown Speaker (01:01:58.179)

them following their own rules we'll see what

Unknown Speaker (01:02:00.179)

happens but it takes a little more than

Unknown Speaker (01:02:02.179)

this for me to say Alex's days are numbered

Unknown Speaker (01:02:04.179)

it might be another matter

Unknown Speaker (01:02:06.179)

for a couple other people involved

Unknown Speaker (01:02:08.179)

namely Milo and Laura

Unknown Speaker (01:02:10.179)

Loomer who were banned along with Alex

Unknown Speaker (01:02:12.179)

Paul Joseph Watson and Infowars

Unknown Speaker (01:02:14.179)

and Paul Nalen that

Unknown Speaker (01:02:16.179)

white supremacist anti-Semitic dude

Unknown Speaker (01:02:18.179)

yeah that's nice get him out of there

Unknown Speaker (01:02:20.179)

get him out of here the two of them

Unknown Speaker (01:02:22.179)

Milo and Laura Loomer may actually be

Unknown Speaker (01:02:24.179)

at the end of their respective grifts and

Unknown Speaker (01:02:26.179)

really the reason becomes clear in circumstances

Unknown Speaker (01:02:28.179)

like this their only

Unknown Speaker (01:02:30.179)

skills are agitating

Unknown Speaker (01:02:32.179)

if they're really journalists social media

Unknown Speaker (01:02:34.179)

ban wouldn't impede their work since they could

Unknown Speaker (01:02:36.179)

write a devastating piece on their own website

Unknown Speaker (01:02:38.179)

or blog and if for actually any

Unknown Speaker (01:02:40.179)

good and sourced and based on accurate

Unknown Speaker (01:02:42.179)

information it would be shared and picked

Unknown Speaker (01:02:44.179)

up by at least a number

Unknown Speaker (01:02:46.179)

of independent places you could get

Unknown Speaker (01:02:48.179)

something in the intercept if you were actually

Unknown Speaker (01:02:50.179)

doing some sort of good

Unknown Speaker (01:02:52.179)

work about this yeah

Unknown Speaker (01:02:54.179)

if they were concerned about the stigma

Unknown Speaker (01:02:56.179)

that they might have with their name

Unknown Speaker (01:02:58.179)

they could use a pen name like

Unknown Speaker (01:03:00.179)

actually blacklisted writers did in the

Unknown Speaker (01:03:02.179)

McCarthy era that they

Unknown Speaker (01:03:04.179)

coincidentally think didn't go far enough

Unknown Speaker (01:03:06.179)

they're supporters of the McCarthy era

Unknown Speaker (01:03:08.179)

without the help of

Unknown Speaker (01:03:10.179)

these tools of immediacy

Unknown Speaker (01:03:12.179)

like the idea of live streaming

Unknown Speaker (01:03:14.179)

and things like that people like

Unknown Speaker (01:03:16.179)

Loomer have nothing and they know it

Unknown Speaker (01:03:18.179)

I empathize with her freaking out and

Unknown Speaker (01:03:20.179)

everybody's making fun of her and spoiler

Unknown Speaker (01:03:22.179)

alert we are going to talk a little bit about that

Unknown Speaker (01:03:24.179)

towards the end of this episode I don't want to

Unknown Speaker (01:03:26.179)

make a mockery of someone who may very

Unknown Speaker (01:03:28.179)

well be having a mental health episode

Unknown Speaker (01:03:30.179)

but make no mistake what's

Unknown Speaker (01:03:32.179)

behind the freak out that she's having is

Unknown Speaker (01:03:34.179)

not oh no the globalists are winning

Unknown Speaker (01:03:36.179)

it's oh no my scam doesn't

Unknown Speaker (01:03:38.179)

really work without periscope

Unknown Speaker (01:03:40.179)

the panic comes from the recognition that this

Unknown Speaker (01:03:42.179)

is the end of the road for her con

Unknown Speaker (01:03:46.179)

and also for anyone

Unknown Speaker (01:03:48.179)

concerned that we as a podcast are going to somehow

Unknown Speaker (01:03:50.179)

be affected by this ban have no fear

Unknown Speaker (01:03:52.179)

Facebook said that quote users

Unknown Speaker (01:03:54.179)

will be prohibited from sharing Infowars videos

Unknown Speaker (01:03:56.179)

radio clips articles and other content

Unknown Speaker (01:03:58.179)

from the site unless they're explicitly condemning

Unknown Speaker (01:04:00.179)

the material I think our condemnation

Unknown Speaker (01:04:02.179)

has been pretty explicit up till this point

Unknown Speaker (01:04:04.179)

I don't know we might lose a couple episodes

Unknown Speaker (01:04:06.179)

this wired

Unknown Speaker (01:04:08.179)

article includes one of the few

Unknown Speaker (01:04:10.179)

lines that gives me hope that this could be

Unknown Speaker (01:04:12.179)

an effective ban against someone like Alex

Unknown Speaker (01:04:14.179)

and it's this quote

Unknown Speaker (01:04:16.179)

Facebook's Thursday ban closes a loophole

Unknown Speaker (01:04:18.179)

the one where Alex could just make a

Unknown Speaker (01:04:20.179)

ton of dummy accounts by deploying

Unknown Speaker (01:04:22.179)

a tool against Infowars usually

Unknown Speaker (01:04:24.179)

reserved for terrorist organizations

Unknown Speaker (01:04:26.179)

and self proclaimed hate groups

Unknown Speaker (01:04:28.179)

I would actually say they are still

Unknown Speaker (01:04:30.179)

reserved for terrorist organizations

Unknown Speaker (01:04:32.179)

and self proclaimed hate groups

Unknown Speaker (01:04:34.179)

yeah I would say that fits

Unknown Speaker (01:04:36.179)

well within the bill right so they're

Unknown Speaker (01:04:38.179)

they're using and it's not an automated

Unknown Speaker (01:04:40.179)

algorithm algorithmic

Unknown Speaker (01:04:42.179)

tool but what they're doing is

Unknown Speaker (01:04:44.179)

anybody who posts

Unknown Speaker (01:04:46.179)

like these people who appear

Unknown Speaker (01:04:48.179)

to be representing them disseminating

Unknown Speaker (01:04:50.179)

their content yeah just

Unknown Speaker (01:04:52.179)

taken down yeah they got a really good guy

Unknown Speaker (01:04:54.179)

named Nick who's taking care of it for us

Unknown Speaker (01:04:56.179)

this is good

Unknown Speaker (01:04:58.179)

Alex is running an organization that at this point

Unknown Speaker (01:05:00.179)

is primarily motivated by inspiring

Unknown Speaker (01:05:02.179)

white western terrorism and apologizing

Unknown Speaker (01:05:04.179)

for it when it does happen and making excuses

Unknown Speaker (01:05:06.179)

for it and also deceptively

Unknown Speaker (01:05:08.179)

selling fish oil and calling it false false flags

Unknown Speaker (01:05:10.179)

right so if a private

Unknown Speaker (01:05:12.179)

company is deciding to treat him correctly

Unknown Speaker (01:05:14.179)

then good fuck him

Unknown Speaker (01:05:16.179)

this isn't a free speech issue in the least

Unknown Speaker (01:05:18.179)

and ultimately the irony of the situation

Unknown Speaker (01:05:20.179)

is the only way that Alex can argue

Unknown Speaker (01:05:22.179)

to reverse the decision is to try and get Trump

Unknown Speaker (01:05:24.179)

to help him with executive orders

Unknown Speaker (01:05:26.179)

for years he screamed bloody murder about

Unknown Speaker (01:05:28.179)

an overpowered executive branch and the

Unknown Speaker (01:05:30.179)

evils of the federal government encroaching on businesses

Unknown Speaker (01:05:32.179)

and now possibly his only

Unknown Speaker (01:05:34.179)

hope to stay afloat as a propaganda machine

Unknown Speaker (01:05:36.179)

is to advocate for the federal government

Unknown Speaker (01:05:38.179)

to step in and dictate what speech is

Unknown Speaker (01:05:40.179)

or is not allowed by a private business

Unknown Speaker (01:05:42.179)

Alex would basically have to argue against

Unknown Speaker (01:05:44.179)

free speech in order to save his supposed

Unknown Speaker (01:05:46.179)

right to be on Facebook which should be

Unknown Speaker (01:05:48.179)

fun to see him bend himself into a pretzel

Unknown Speaker (01:05:50.179)

to see no we gotta kill

Unknown Speaker (01:05:52.179)

free speech now and then we'll

Unknown Speaker (01:05:54.179)

save it later when we all get

Unknown Speaker (01:05:56.179)

angry enough that we don't have free speech

Unknown Speaker (01:05:58.179)

that we're like okay Trump give it back now

Unknown Speaker (01:06:00.179)

I just realized because you framed it that way

Unknown Speaker (01:06:02.179)

it's basically an episode of House

Unknown Speaker (01:06:04.179)

in order to save his patient House

Unknown Speaker (01:06:06.179)

has to kill her for a minute

Unknown Speaker (01:06:08.179)

but alright so

Unknown Speaker (01:06:10.179)

I guess to put it

Unknown Speaker (01:06:12.179)

briefly because I think

Unknown Speaker (01:06:14.179)

the things that I said there might sound

Unknown Speaker (01:06:16.179)

a tiny bit contradictory or

Unknown Speaker (01:06:18.179)

a little bit all over the place I would distill

Unknown Speaker (01:06:20.179)

it to say this I think

Unknown Speaker (01:06:22.179)

that Alex

Unknown Speaker (01:06:24.179)

has the resources at his disposal

Unknown Speaker (01:06:26.179)

currently whether

Unknown Speaker (01:06:28.179)

it be the employees

Unknown Speaker (01:06:30.179)

and the built in infrastructure of being

Unknown Speaker (01:06:32.179)

able to have people take

Unknown Speaker (01:06:34.179)

his stream and broadcast it super

Unknown Speaker (01:06:36.179)

easily I think he has those

Unknown Speaker (01:06:38.179)

things at his disposal that'll make a ban

Unknown Speaker (01:06:40.179)

incredibly difficult

Unknown Speaker (01:06:42.179)

to stick however

Unknown Speaker (01:06:44.179)

the fact that they're saying that they're going to

Unknown Speaker (01:06:46.179)

treat this like a way

Unknown Speaker (01:06:48.179)

that they can knock down these dummy accounts

Unknown Speaker (01:06:50.179)

and treat it like a terrorist organization

Unknown Speaker (01:06:52.179)

I think that that's inspiring

Unknown Speaker (01:06:54.179)

in some ways in terms of like we are taking

Unknown Speaker (01:06:56.179)

this seriously so

Unknown Speaker (01:06:58.179)

we'll see what happens

Unknown Speaker (01:07:00.179)

not super optimistic about it

Unknown Speaker (01:07:02.179)

I think Milo and Laura are completely

Unknown Speaker (01:07:04.179)

fucked I think they're

Unknown Speaker (01:07:06.179)

done with whatever

Unknown Speaker (01:07:08.179)

hustles they've been on because

Unknown Speaker (01:07:10.179)

Milo relied entirely on Mercer money

Unknown Speaker (01:07:12.179)

which went away as soon

Unknown Speaker (01:07:14.179)

as he got kicked off a bunch of

Unknown Speaker (01:07:16.179)

stuff and he wasn't an effective mouthpiece

Unknown Speaker (01:07:18.179)

he had no infrastructure

Unknown Speaker (01:07:20.179)

he was only being able to publish his books

Unknown Speaker (01:07:22.179)

and disseminate them because of that funding

Unknown Speaker (01:07:24.179)

so without that and now without

Unknown Speaker (01:07:26.179)

Instagram I don't see

Unknown Speaker (01:07:28.179)

I don't see what kind of hustle he can pull

Unknown Speaker (01:07:30.179)

off. Laura Loomer has no talent

Unknown Speaker (01:07:32.179)

she's only good at

Unknown Speaker (01:07:34.179)

creating a brouhaha

Unknown Speaker (01:07:36.179)

and without the access to

Unknown Speaker (01:07:38.179)

streaming materials and stuff

Unknown Speaker (01:07:40.179)

like that she has nothing

Unknown Speaker (01:07:42.179)

I think she's going to probably sell insurance

Unknown Speaker (01:07:44.179)

I think that's where she's going to go next

Unknown Speaker (01:07:46.179)

I don't know. I wish her the best

Unknown Speaker (01:07:48.179)

I don't think that's going to be a road that's open to her

Unknown Speaker (01:07:50.179)

It's a tough gig

Unknown Speaker (01:07:52.179)

We'll see what you think at the end of this episode

Unknown Speaker (01:07:54.179)

So we have two more clips left from

Unknown Speaker (01:07:56.179)

May 2nd and

Unknown Speaker (01:07:58.179)

Alex has found out that him and PJW

Unknown Speaker (01:08:00.179)

were kicked off the social media

Unknown Speaker (01:08:02.179)

and it starts

Unknown Speaker (01:08:04.179)

to dawn on him that

Unknown Speaker (01:08:06.179)

maybe

Unknown Speaker (01:08:08.179)

maybe he's done

Unknown Speaker (01:08:10.179)

So is the crew ready to get laid off or ready for me to go?

Unknown Speaker (01:08:12.179)

How about this close?

Unknown Speaker (01:08:14.179)

Well I feel like you've built up the operation enough that you have

Unknown Speaker (01:08:16.180)

really great people on this team

Unknown Speaker (01:08:18.180)

that would be able to allow you the time

Unknown Speaker (01:08:20.180)

to recharge and become

Unknown Speaker (01:08:22.180)

an ultimate warrior

Unknown Speaker (01:08:24.180)

Well I've done it at gun level that disappearing for about a year or two

Unknown Speaker (01:08:26.180)

would like really be the move

Unknown Speaker (01:08:28.180)

just be, and believe me I want it to

Unknown Speaker (01:08:30.180)

my god

Unknown Speaker (01:08:32.180)

So he's expressing that he just wants to leave

Unknown Speaker (01:08:34.180)

Earlier he was talking about how he gets high

Unknown Speaker (01:08:36.180)

when he's gardening

Unknown Speaker (01:08:38.180)

and as someone who's growing some plants

Unknown Speaker (01:08:40.180)

I think that's stretch

Unknown Speaker (01:08:42.180)

but I do enjoy it

Unknown Speaker (01:08:44.180)

Well he's got a lot of krill oil going on so

Unknown Speaker (01:08:46.180)

Maybe that's what I'm not doing

Unknown Speaker (01:08:48.180)

Five tablets of that and you'll be seeing Santa Claus in those plants

Unknown Speaker (01:08:50.180)

I do think that there's some interesting things

Unknown Speaker (01:08:52.180)

and it does feel really great to see these plants

Unknown Speaker (01:08:54.180)

coming up from seeds, from nothing

Unknown Speaker (01:08:56.180)

it's really interesting

Unknown Speaker (01:08:58.180)

and then also to understand

Unknown Speaker (01:09:00.180)

you think of a plant

Unknown Speaker (01:09:02.180)

as like a non-thing

Unknown Speaker (01:09:04.180)

like a cat you can interact with

Unknown Speaker (01:09:06.180)

they're alive and jumping all over the place

Unknown Speaker (01:09:08.180)

because you just come and you see

Unknown Speaker (01:09:10.180)

these plants right here

Unknown Speaker (01:09:12.180)

you don't see them over the course of a day

Unknown Speaker (01:09:14.180)

and it's really interesting that plants

Unknown Speaker (01:09:16.180)

move a lot more than you think

Unknown Speaker (01:09:18.180)

like there's those sorts of things that you get from

Unknown Speaker (01:09:20.180)

the experience of growing plants

Unknown Speaker (01:09:22.180)

and things like, so yeah sure Alex

Unknown Speaker (01:09:24.180)

go fucking be a gardener is what I'm saying

Unknown Speaker (01:09:26.180)

Yeah that sounds great! That would be fun!

Unknown Speaker (01:09:28.180)

I get it!

Unknown Speaker (01:09:30.180)

You might think that was just a stray thought that Alex had

Unknown Speaker (01:09:32.180)

but a little bit later he says this

Unknown Speaker (01:09:34.180)

Leanne don't tempt me

Unknown Speaker (01:09:36.180)

really tempting me right now

Unknown Speaker (01:09:38.180)

I have dreams about this

Unknown Speaker (01:09:40.180)

I have dreams like where I'm like

Unknown Speaker (01:09:42.180)

just picking corn

Unknown Speaker (01:09:44.180)

like ancestral memory, like picking corn or cooking food

Unknown Speaker (01:09:46.180)

or like sweeping

Unknown Speaker (01:09:48.180)

instead of just looking at Hillary's

Unknown Speaker (01:09:50.180)

evil face all day long

Unknown Speaker (01:09:52.180)

Right, there's a reason why you and a lot

Unknown Speaker (01:09:54.180)

of us are being sent

Unknown Speaker (01:09:56.180)

that message to just like unplug

Unknown Speaker (01:09:58.180)

and get back to the basics of what is

Unknown Speaker (01:10:00.180)

real life. No I agree for the average parent out there

Unknown Speaker (01:10:02.180)

you need to take your children, move the country and flee now

Unknown Speaker (01:10:04.180)

money, power, none of it means anything

Unknown Speaker (01:10:06.180)

it means nothing, it's crap

Unknown Speaker (01:10:08.180)

It means nothing, it's just a trap

Unknown Speaker (01:10:10.180)

So he's telling his audience

Unknown Speaker (01:10:12.180)

to head to the fucking hills which is pretty

Unknown Speaker (01:10:14.180)

fucked up and expressing that I

Unknown Speaker (01:10:16.180)

really maybe should do that

Unknown Speaker (01:10:18.180)

He's all over the place, first he's

Unknown Speaker (01:10:20.180)

saying you need to murder your enemies

Unknown Speaker (01:10:22.180)

and now he's saying you should just leave?

Unknown Speaker (01:10:24.180)

Well cause he got kicked off social media

Unknown Speaker (01:10:26.180)

I got kicked off social media and I was like fuck it

Unknown Speaker (01:10:28.180)

I'm having

Unknown Speaker (01:10:30.180)

dreams of sweeping

Unknown Speaker (01:10:32.180)

here

Unknown Speaker (01:10:34.180)

You see how like

Unknown Speaker (01:10:36.180)

Every night I fall asleep and pick

Unknown Speaker (01:10:38.180)

corn, I just pick corn

Unknown Speaker (01:10:40.180)

I don't look at Hillary's face at all

Unknown Speaker (01:10:42.180)

I take a bunch of krill oil and I trip balls

Unknown Speaker (01:10:44.180)

thinking about chores

Unknown Speaker (01:10:46.180)

Except that one time I saw that piece of corn

Unknown Speaker (01:10:48.180)

that looked like Hillary's face

Unknown Speaker (01:10:50.180)

That krill oil

Unknown Speaker (01:10:52.180)

was past its expiration date

Unknown Speaker (01:10:54.180)

I mean

Unknown Speaker (01:10:56.180)

what you have here, I think

Unknown Speaker (01:10:58.180)

that this is really important as a piece of this

Unknown Speaker (01:11:00.180)

Alex

Unknown Speaker (01:11:02.180)

is so unhinged

Unknown Speaker (01:11:04.180)

as a person and so unmoored

Unknown Speaker (01:11:06.180)

from like any kind of

Unknown Speaker (01:11:08.180)

bearing keeping him in place

Unknown Speaker (01:11:10.180)

that over the course of this

Unknown Speaker (01:11:12.180)

show you do hear him screaming about

Unknown Speaker (01:11:14.180)

decapitating his enemies and then

Unknown Speaker (01:11:16.180)

a little bit later being like well you know what I'm talking about

Unknown Speaker (01:11:18.180)

man who does war games in here

Unknown Speaker (01:11:20.180)

and then once he gets kicked off social

Unknown Speaker (01:11:22.180)

media it's a whole different animal

Unknown Speaker (01:11:24.180)

He is like fuck it

Unknown Speaker (01:11:26.180)

I want to garden

Unknown Speaker (01:11:28.180)

I want to get out of here

Unknown Speaker (01:11:30.180)

Do you think Canada will have me?

Unknown Speaker (01:11:32.180)

No Alex

Unknown Speaker (01:11:34.180)

Everyone thinks I hate Jews

Unknown Speaker (01:11:36.180)

Look I want to go

Unknown Speaker (01:11:38.180)

make plants and sweep

Unknown Speaker (01:11:40.180)

Because there aren't any

Unknown Speaker (01:11:42.180)

Jews in the garden

Unknown Speaker (01:11:44.180)

He has no center

Unknown Speaker (01:11:46.180)

He has no ability to be

Unknown Speaker (01:11:48.180)

and that's sad

Unknown Speaker (01:11:50.180)

I think that's something that's actually kind of interesting

Unknown Speaker (01:11:52.180)

that Leanne is kind of bringing to the table

Unknown Speaker (01:11:54.180)

There's a zenness to her

Unknown Speaker (01:11:56.180)

I feel a lot more mentally healthy

Unknown Speaker (01:11:58.180)

I feel like she's trying to help

Unknown Speaker (01:12:00.180)

Alex a little bit

Unknown Speaker (01:12:02.180)

You have a lot of employees here

Unknown Speaker (01:12:04.180)

You could take some time off

Unknown Speaker (01:12:06.180)

She doesn't know that he does not have anyone who could take over

Unknown Speaker (01:12:08.180)

Nope

Unknown Speaker (01:12:10.180)

It's interesting

Unknown Speaker (01:12:12.180)

because this is how this episode ends

Unknown Speaker (01:12:14.180)

and you have Leanne coming in

Unknown Speaker (01:12:16.180)

and kind of giving

Unknown Speaker (01:12:18.180)

what has the

Unknown Speaker (01:12:20.180)

semblance of empathy

Unknown Speaker (01:12:22.180)

to Alex trying to help him

Unknown Speaker (01:12:24.180)

care for himself

Unknown Speaker (01:12:26.180)

at least a little bit

Unknown Speaker (01:12:28.180)

It's the inverse of our 30 year old kid Alex

Unknown Speaker (01:12:30.180)

Sort of

Unknown Speaker (01:12:32.180)

It's also the inverse of what's going to be at the end of the May 3rd episode

Unknown Speaker (01:12:34.180)

Keep that in mind

Unknown Speaker (01:12:36.180)

Is Leanne going to be back for third too?

Unknown Speaker (01:12:38.180)

No

Unknown Speaker (01:12:40.180)

Laura Loomer will be coming on

Unknown Speaker (01:12:42.180)

No

Unknown Speaker (01:12:44.180)

Boo

Unknown Speaker (01:12:46.180)

We start the third here

Unknown Speaker (01:12:48.180)

with Alex having talked to his lawyers

Unknown Speaker (01:12:50.180)

the night before

Unknown Speaker (01:12:52.180)

and thinking that he's on a much better footing

Unknown Speaker (01:12:54.180)

than he is

Unknown Speaker (01:12:56.180)

so he has a little bit of a manic energy coming in

Unknown Speaker (01:12:58.180)

where he's going to prove that everyone

Unknown Speaker (01:13:00.180)

has wronged him

Unknown Speaker (01:13:02.180)

and he's going to lay it all out on this episode

Unknown Speaker (01:13:04.180)

it's going to be so important

Unknown Speaker (01:13:06.180)

and then he compares himself to Jesus twice

Unknown Speaker (01:13:08.180)

Did Barnes buy

Unknown Speaker (01:13:10.180)

an old fashioned

Unknown Speaker (01:13:12.180)

cash register just so he could go

Unknown Speaker (01:13:14.180)

cha-ching every time he reads

Unknown Speaker (01:13:16.180)

the Facebook story?

Unknown Speaker (01:13:18.180)

He does show up on this episode

Unknown Speaker (01:13:20.180)

and he's going to lay out for you

Unknown Speaker (01:13:22.180)

total smoking gun

Unknown Speaker (01:13:24.180)

their internal emails

Unknown Speaker (01:13:26.180)

which their own people leaked

Unknown Speaker (01:13:28.180)

but are now going to bite them in the ass royal

Unknown Speaker (01:13:30.180)

where they said

Unknown Speaker (01:13:32.180)

this man has done nothing like

Unknown Speaker (01:13:34.180)

Pontius Pilate said

Unknown Speaker (01:13:36.180)

I'm not comparing myself to Christ but it's the same deal

Unknown Speaker (01:13:38.180)

they said we don't like him we're liberals but

Unknown Speaker (01:13:40.180)

he's not done anything they say

Unknown Speaker (01:13:42.180)

he's done

Unknown Speaker (01:13:44.180)

and they said you will crucify him

Unknown Speaker (01:13:46.180)

and

Unknown Speaker (01:13:48.180)

they washed their hands

Unknown Speaker (01:13:50.180)

it's all

Unknown Speaker (01:13:52.180)

right here this is

Unknown Speaker (01:13:54.180)

incredible

Unknown Speaker (01:13:56.180)

so he compared himself to Jesus

Unknown Speaker (01:13:58.180)

twice and he tried to stop himself

Unknown Speaker (01:14:00.180)

and then he does it again which is like

Unknown Speaker (01:14:02.180)

oh man so he's going to

Unknown Speaker (01:14:04.180)

lay it all out he's got proof

Unknown Speaker (01:14:06.180)

that they have done him dirty

Unknown Speaker (01:14:08.180)

and we'll see if that's the case

Unknown Speaker (01:14:10.180)

I don't think it will be based on the fact that I

Unknown Speaker (01:14:12.180)

couldn't stop laughing you're probably right

Unknown Speaker (01:14:14.180)

factually inaccurate Alex is too

Unknown Speaker (01:14:16.180)

fat to crucify let's be honest

Unknown Speaker (01:14:18.180)

come on man you don't put a nail through the neck

Unknown Speaker (01:14:20.180)

let's be honest

Unknown Speaker (01:14:22.180)

so in this next clip Alex

Unknown Speaker (01:14:24.180)

remember that day that he broke the

Unknown Speaker (01:14:26.180)

MIAC report and he told everyone to stop traffic

Unknown Speaker (01:14:28.180)

because he said that it was the most important

Unknown Speaker (01:14:30.180)

thing that he's ever covered

Unknown Speaker (01:14:32.180)

are we stopping traffic again?

Unknown Speaker (01:14:34.180)

he's not calling people to stop traffic but he should

Unknown Speaker (01:14:36.180)

be because this is officially

Unknown Speaker (01:14:38.180)

the most important thing Alex has ever covered

Unknown Speaker (01:14:40.180)

now I've been on the air

Unknown Speaker (01:14:42.180)

24 and a half years

Unknown Speaker (01:14:44.180)

mazel tov

Unknown Speaker (01:15:14.180)

and you can

Unknown Speaker (01:15:16.180)

see the

Unknown Speaker (01:15:18.180)

stars still out even though the sun's

Unknown Speaker (01:15:20.180)

coming up you ever have one of those magic moments

Unknown Speaker (01:15:22.180)

this is

Unknown Speaker (01:15:24.180)

the opposite of that

Unknown Speaker (01:15:30.180)

you have one of those times

Unknown Speaker (01:15:32.180)

when you couldn't see shit

Unknown Speaker (01:15:34.180)

I was

Unknown Speaker (01:15:36.180)

blown away by that turn

Unknown Speaker (01:15:38.180)

I did not expect that

Unknown Speaker (01:15:40.180)

I really thought he was going to say this is exactly what

Unknown Speaker (01:15:42.180)

I'm experiencing now

Unknown Speaker (01:15:44.180)

I see everything, the fog is lifted

Unknown Speaker (01:15:46.180)

I see the globalist plans

Unknown Speaker (01:15:48.180)

the whole thing is laid out in front of me

Unknown Speaker (01:15:50.180)

instead it's actually me driving from

Unknown Speaker (01:15:52.180)

that beautiful moment into

Unknown Speaker (01:15:54.180)

horrifying fog at the top of the mountain

Unknown Speaker (01:15:56.180)

where I'm going to fall

Unknown Speaker (01:15:58.180)

I don't know where I'm going

Unknown Speaker (01:16:00.180)

can't see the ground, can't see the road

Unknown Speaker (01:16:02.180)

not good

Unknown Speaker (01:16:04.180)

I really enjoyed that though

Unknown Speaker (01:16:06.180)

when I was listening to that I was like

Unknown Speaker (01:16:08.180)

that was a ride

Unknown Speaker (01:16:10.180)

I was kind of

Unknown Speaker (01:16:12.180)

enjoying the visual

Unknown Speaker (01:16:14.180)

metaphor he was making

Unknown Speaker (01:16:16.180)

it was coherent and relatable

Unknown Speaker (01:16:18.180)

I've been in that experience before

Unknown Speaker (01:16:20.180)

you see the fog break and you see a beautiful

Unknown Speaker (01:16:22.180)

landscape in front of you

Unknown Speaker (01:16:24.180)

absolutely

Unknown Speaker (01:16:26.180)

you can see the stars and the sun at the same time

Unknown Speaker (01:16:28.180)

and you're like how is this possible?

Unknown Speaker (01:16:30.180)

I was along for the ride and then just

Unknown Speaker (01:16:32.180)

neck breaking twist

Unknown Speaker (01:16:34.180)

especially how it starts with

Unknown Speaker (01:16:36.180)

this is the most important

Unknown Speaker (01:16:38.180)

yeah guys

Unknown Speaker (01:16:40.180)

ever been driving in a bunch of fog

Unknown Speaker (01:16:42.180)

this is nothing like that

Unknown Speaker (01:16:44.180)

so Alex has two new

Unknown Speaker (01:16:46.180)

pieces that he's trying to add to the ban

Unknown Speaker (01:16:48.180)

narrative

Unknown Speaker (01:16:50.180)

the first is that MasterCard

Unknown Speaker (01:16:52.180)

is now going to

Unknown Speaker (01:16:54.180)

make sure if

Unknown Speaker (01:16:56.180)

you give any money to people

Unknown Speaker (01:16:58.180)

they don't like they're going to erase

Unknown Speaker (01:17:00.180)

your account

Unknown Speaker (01:17:02.180)

that doesn't sound legal

Unknown Speaker (01:17:32.180)

take MasterCard from you

Unknown Speaker (01:17:34.180)

you're like

Unknown Speaker (01:17:36.180)

well I'll go to something else

Unknown Speaker (01:17:38.180)

no they're buying it all up

Unknown Speaker (01:17:40.180)

it's here, mark of the beast folks

Unknown Speaker (01:17:42.180)

whether you believe in God or not

Unknown Speaker (01:17:44.180)

it's happening

Unknown Speaker (01:17:46.180)

and these people are reading Revelation

Unknown Speaker (01:17:48.180)

the last book of the New Testament

Unknown Speaker (01:17:50.180)

and they've decided that it's an owner's manual

Unknown Speaker (01:17:52.180)

that it's an operations guide

Unknown Speaker (01:17:54.180)

that it's a blueprint for something they're building

Unknown Speaker (01:17:56.180)

and they're doing it

Unknown Speaker (01:17:58.180)

they're manifesting it

Unknown Speaker (01:18:00.180)

and the churches won't say a word

Unknown Speaker (01:18:02.180)

because they like all their digital stuff

Unknown Speaker (01:18:04.180)

they like being on Facebook

Unknown Speaker (01:18:06.180)

see how the Antichrist works?

Unknown Speaker (01:18:08.180)

in a vacuum

Unknown Speaker (01:18:10.180)

that's insanity

Unknown Speaker (01:18:12.180)

I love the mental image

Unknown Speaker (01:18:14.180)

of somebody like there's a room

Unknown Speaker (01:18:16.180)

in MasterCard where they're all sitting around

Unknown Speaker (01:18:18.180)

with the book of Revelations going like

Unknown Speaker (01:18:20.180)

alright so we got the first seal open

Unknown Speaker (01:18:22.180)

that was good

Unknown Speaker (01:18:24.180)

how are we going to get the second one open?

Unknown Speaker (01:18:26.180)

we got to do it cheap too

Unknown Speaker (01:18:28.180)

we are over budget

Unknown Speaker (01:18:30.180)

on the Revelation

Unknown Speaker (01:18:32.180)

alright so

Unknown Speaker (01:18:34.180)

who has wings?

Unknown Speaker (01:18:36.180)

can you find anybody with wings?

Unknown Speaker (01:18:38.180)

I know a guy

Unknown Speaker (01:18:40.180)

he flew too close

Unknown Speaker (01:18:42.180)

the story as I understand it

Unknown Speaker (01:18:44.180)

is that MasterCard

Unknown Speaker (01:18:46.180)

is putting these

Unknown Speaker (01:18:48.180)

or at least having conversations

Unknown Speaker (01:18:50.180)

about these human rights

Unknown Speaker (01:18:52.180)

commissions as part of their board

Unknown Speaker (01:18:54.180)

and it wouldn't

Unknown Speaker (01:18:56.180)

turn off your account

Unknown Speaker (01:18:58.180)

it would be reject transactions

Unknown Speaker (01:19:00.180)

to places that were

Unknown Speaker (01:19:02.180)

like ISIS

Unknown Speaker (01:19:04.180)

not ISIS specifically but you know what I mean

Unknown Speaker (01:19:06.180)

if you're going to donate to

Unknown Speaker (01:19:08.180)

the Proud Boys

Unknown Speaker (01:19:10.180)

they would just cancel that transaction

Unknown Speaker (01:19:12.180)

you can't use our service to give them money

Unknown Speaker (01:19:14.180)

that's not the same thing

Unknown Speaker (01:19:16.180)

as you need to

Unknown Speaker (01:19:18.180)

you give money to the Proud Boys

Unknown Speaker (01:19:20.180)

and then your account is gone

Unknown Speaker (01:19:22.180)

that's really going to limit

Unknown Speaker (01:19:24.180)

Putin's ability to buy

Unknown Speaker (01:19:26.180)

any unrefined

Unknown Speaker (01:19:28.180)

plutonium because

Unknown Speaker (01:19:30.180)

he uses MasterCard

Unknown Speaker (01:19:32.180)

haven't you seen those commercials?

Unknown Speaker (01:19:34.180)

he did have an American Express commercial

Unknown Speaker (01:19:36.180)

in the 90s

Unknown Speaker (01:19:38.180)

he was with Trump at the time

Unknown Speaker (01:19:40.180)

I've started learning Russian but I don't know how to say what's in your wallet

Unknown Speaker (01:19:42.180)

laughter

Unknown Speaker (01:19:44.180)

at this point

Unknown Speaker (01:19:46.180)

I only know that woman is

Unknown Speaker (01:19:48.180)

zhenshina

Unknown Speaker (01:19:50.180)

that's pretty, I like it

Unknown Speaker (01:19:52.180)

it's a slow process

Unknown Speaker (01:19:54.180)

laughter

Unknown Speaker (01:19:56.180)

laughter

Unknown Speaker (01:19:58.180)

oh I also know Apple

Unknown Speaker (01:20:00.180)

yablaka

Unknown Speaker (01:20:02.180)

that's too many syllables

Unknown Speaker (01:20:04.180)

no it's not, it's great

Unknown Speaker (01:20:06.180)

so that's his first one

Unknown Speaker (01:20:08.180)

the MasterCard is going to take away all your money

Unknown Speaker (01:20:10.180)

if you're a bad boy

Unknown Speaker (01:20:12.180)

of course

Unknown Speaker (01:20:14.180)

sure

Unknown Speaker (01:20:16.180)

rebel without a card

Unknown Speaker (01:20:18.180)

I believe is what that would be called

Unknown Speaker (01:20:20.180)

and so the second one

Unknown Speaker (01:20:22.180)

that he's putting forth

Unknown Speaker (01:20:24.180)

is that now if you're on this bad boy list

Unknown Speaker (01:20:26.180)

they're also trying to

Unknown Speaker (01:20:28.180)

make it so you can't

Unknown Speaker (01:20:30.180)

use phones and text people

Unknown Speaker (01:20:32.180)

anymore

Unknown Speaker (01:20:34.180)

and this is something that he's basing off a clip

Unknown Speaker (01:20:36.180)

of Oliver Darcy

Unknown Speaker (01:20:38.180)

being interviewed on CNN

Unknown Speaker (01:20:40.180)

about his Alex's and all these other people's

Unknown Speaker (01:20:42.180)

bands

Unknown Speaker (01:20:44.180)

I've got bug eyes like Cookie Monster

Unknown Speaker (01:20:46.180)

so it's okay

Unknown Speaker (01:20:48.180)

for people to use telephones

Unknown Speaker (01:20:50.180)

that's right, text messages, it's coming

Unknown Speaker (01:20:52.180)

and banning from Facebook

Unknown Speaker (01:20:54.180)

and Instagram, correct?

Unknown Speaker (01:20:56.180)

yes, Facebook obviously owns Instagram

Unknown Speaker (01:20:58.180)

and so someone like Alex Jones had been banned from Facebook

Unknown Speaker (01:21:00.180)

a while back, last year in the summer

Unknown Speaker (01:21:02.180)

but he was still having a presence on Instagram

Unknown Speaker (01:21:04.180)

and they had drawn a lot of scrutiny

Unknown Speaker (01:21:06.180)

from people who were saying, hey

Unknown Speaker (01:21:08.180)

you guys banned him from one of your platforms

Unknown Speaker (01:21:10.180)

why are you allowing him to have a presence on Instagram?

Unknown Speaker (01:21:12.180)

and so yes, now Facebook is

Unknown Speaker (01:21:14.180)

going to be banning Alex Jones

Unknown Speaker (01:21:16.180)

and Infowars from not only their

Unknown Speaker (01:21:18.180)

main platform, Facebook, but also from Instagram

Unknown Speaker (01:21:20.180)

I checked in also to see if these people

Unknown Speaker (01:21:22.180)

would be banned from WhatsApp

Unknown Speaker (01:21:24.180)

which is also owned by Facebook

Unknown Speaker (01:21:26.180)

and a spokesperson cannot say immediately

Unknown Speaker (01:21:28.180)

because it's unclear whether

Unknown Speaker (01:21:30.180)

some of these people have WhatsApp accounts

Unknown Speaker (01:21:32.180)

according to the spokesperson

Unknown Speaker (01:21:34.180)

so they own thousands of companies

Unknown Speaker (01:21:36.180)

I guess they buy my water company

Unknown Speaker (01:21:38.180)

we're checking to see if he's getting water from Facebook

Unknown Speaker (01:21:40.180)

we turned his water off

Unknown Speaker (01:21:42.180)

we own the oxygen now

Unknown Speaker (01:21:44.180)

we're seeing if he got the oxygen from us

Unknown Speaker (01:21:46.180)

that's absurd

Unknown Speaker (01:21:48.180)

point of order, would you say that

Unknown Speaker (01:21:50.180)

that means that Alex is calling for

Unknown Speaker (01:21:52.180)

Facebook to be regulated like a public utility?

Unknown Speaker (01:21:54.180)

I think he is

Unknown Speaker (01:21:56.180)

but only so he can get back on

Unknown Speaker (01:21:58.180)

he doesn't care about that until

Unknown Speaker (01:22:00.180)

there's a personal reason for it

Unknown Speaker (01:22:02.180)

I think that

Unknown Speaker (01:22:04.180)

there's this interesting place

Unknown Speaker (01:22:06.180)

where there are people on

Unknown Speaker (01:22:08.180)

both sides calling for the same thing

Unknown Speaker (01:22:10.180)

but from different perspectives

Unknown Speaker (01:22:12.180)

and so

Unknown Speaker (01:22:14.180)

when he argues about the idea of

Unknown Speaker (01:22:16.180)

should fucking

Unknown Speaker (01:22:18.180)

break up Facebook

Unknown Speaker (01:22:20.180)

yes, absolutely

Unknown Speaker (01:22:22.180)

do you know who you sound like?

Unknown Speaker (01:22:24.180)

Elizabeth Warren, Alex

Unknown Speaker (01:22:28.180)

so much comes down to

Unknown Speaker (01:22:30.180)

why do you believe this

Unknown Speaker (01:22:32.180)

is it because your hustle is being

Unknown Speaker (01:22:34.180)

interrupted? I don't want you as

Unknown Speaker (01:22:36.180)

my ally on this

Unknown Speaker (01:22:38.180)

Elizabeth Warren, I will take you

Unknown Speaker (01:22:40.180)

someone who I will side with

Unknown Speaker (01:22:42.180)

on a similar issue

Unknown Speaker (01:22:44.180)

yeah, almost everything

Unknown Speaker (01:22:48.180)

Alex is trying to spin the idea

Unknown Speaker (01:22:50.180)

that Oliver Darcy is coming

Unknown Speaker (01:22:52.180)

here on CNN and saying

Unknown Speaker (01:22:54.180)

that Alex needs to have his ability

Unknown Speaker (01:22:56.180)

to have a phone taken away

Unknown Speaker (01:22:58.180)

Facebook owns

Unknown Speaker (01:23:00.180)

WhatsApp, you don't need

Unknown Speaker (01:23:02.180)

WhatsApp to text people

Unknown Speaker (01:23:04.180)

you don't need it to call people

Unknown Speaker (01:23:06.180)

it's just an application that

Unknown Speaker (01:23:08.180)

you can use or not

Unknown Speaker (01:23:10.180)

there's a hundred different ways you can

Unknown Speaker (01:23:12.180)

text and call people, it's absurd

Unknown Speaker (01:23:14.180)

to think like I'm being kicked off WhatsApp

Unknown Speaker (01:23:16.180)

because it's owned by the same company

Unknown Speaker (01:23:18.180)

that's kicked me off stuff, now

Unknown Speaker (01:23:20.180)

I can't text people ever

Unknown Speaker (01:23:22.180)

it's silly

Unknown Speaker (01:23:24.180)

what do you think is going to happen with messages?

Unknown Speaker (01:23:26.180)

and it's clear

Unknown Speaker (01:23:28.180)

that what Oliver Darcy is saying is

Unknown Speaker (01:23:30.180)

I don't know, I asked them

Unknown Speaker (01:23:32.180)

it's not clear, they don't know

Unknown Speaker (01:23:34.180)

they might not even have WhatsApp accounts

Unknown Speaker (01:23:36.180)

and he's mad about it

Unknown Speaker (01:23:38.180)

in that interview he's not calling for Alex to be kicked off WhatsApp

Unknown Speaker (01:23:40.180)

because there's a really decent chance

Unknown Speaker (01:23:42.180)

that Alex isn't breaking the terms

Unknown Speaker (01:23:44.180)

of WhatsApp's use

Unknown Speaker (01:23:46.180)

so it's the same reason why he was allowed

Unknown Speaker (01:23:48.180)

to stay on Instagram for the time

Unknown Speaker (01:23:50.180)

that he was, but was kicked off

Unknown Speaker (01:23:52.180)

Facebook, it was like the Instagram people were like

Unknown Speaker (01:23:54.180)

well, I don't know if he's broken the community

Unknown Speaker (01:23:56.180)

guidelines here

Unknown Speaker (01:23:58.180)

well, and WhatsApp

Unknown Speaker (01:24:00.180)

just because it's the same company

Unknown Speaker (01:24:02.180)

WhatsApp already has a bunch of regulations built into it

Unknown Speaker (01:24:04.180)

based on the fact that it was being used to

Unknown Speaker (01:24:06.180)

spread propaganda that got

Unknown Speaker (01:24:08.180)

people, yeah, not just that

Unknown Speaker (01:24:10.180)

but Pakistan

Unknown Speaker (01:24:12.180)

as well, like people have burned shit

Unknown Speaker (01:24:14.180)

a lot, people have burned people a lot

Unknown Speaker (01:24:16.180)

because of WhatsApp

Unknown Speaker (01:24:18.180)

email threads essentially that get out of

Unknown Speaker (01:24:20.180)

control. I don't know anything about that company

Unknown Speaker (01:24:22.180)

I'll be honest, I have never used it

Unknown Speaker (01:24:24.180)

I've never talked to anybody who uses it

Unknown Speaker (01:24:26.180)

so I am woefully

Unknown Speaker (01:24:28.180)

out of my depth

Unknown Speaker (01:24:30.180)

but yeah, I've read a couple

Unknown Speaker (01:24:32.180)

stories along those lines

Unknown Speaker (01:24:34.180)

the larger point for our show here I think is that

Unknown Speaker (01:24:36.180)

Alex is just trying to increase

Unknown Speaker (01:24:38.180)

the scope of what this is

Unknown Speaker (01:24:40.180)

because he needs it to look

Unknown Speaker (01:24:42.180)

apocalyptic, because in some

Unknown Speaker (01:24:44.180)

ways

Unknown Speaker (01:24:46.180)

while I still have some faith

Unknown Speaker (01:24:48.180)

that he's going to be able to duke

Unknown Speaker (01:24:50.180)

a hazard this thing, and somehow

Unknown Speaker (01:24:52.180)

jump the General Lee over the

Unknown Speaker (01:24:54.180)

Constitution, still make things work

Unknown Speaker (01:24:56.180)

somehow, I do think that

Unknown Speaker (01:24:58.180)

he realizes he's in a bit of a pickle

Unknown Speaker (01:25:00.180)

because from what Facebook

Unknown Speaker (01:25:02.180)

is saying about this ban

Unknown Speaker (01:25:04.180)

it seems to be more

Unknown Speaker (01:25:06.180)

grander

Unknown Speaker (01:25:08.180)

comprehensive, yes, that's what I was looking for

Unknown Speaker (01:25:10.180)

it looks like it's going to be a

Unknown Speaker (01:25:12.180)

bigger thing and

Unknown Speaker (01:25:14.180)

the employees of Infowars

Unknown Speaker (01:25:16.180)

who use their accounts to

Unknown Speaker (01:25:18.180)

disseminate his content as if it

Unknown Speaker (01:25:20.180)

were just an Infowars account

Unknown Speaker (01:25:22.180)

so

Unknown Speaker (01:25:24.180)

I think that he's rightfully

Unknown Speaker (01:25:26.180)

worried, and as such

Unknown Speaker (01:25:28.180)

he needs to double down on the idea

Unknown Speaker (01:25:30.180)

that this is just happening because they say

Unknown Speaker (01:25:32.180)

he's anti-Semitic and he's not

Unknown Speaker (01:25:34.180)

I am pro-Israel

Unknown Speaker (01:25:36.180)

everybody's always

Unknown Speaker (01:25:38.180)

known that, I've been on air for 24 years

Unknown Speaker (01:25:40.180)

and I think that

Unknown Speaker (01:25:42.180)

Israel's a better nation than a lot of

Unknown Speaker (01:25:44.180)

those other nations and there's no reason to turn it over

Unknown Speaker (01:25:46.180)

to the islamics, they'll blow it up

Unknown Speaker (01:25:48.180)

they'll fight over it, like they always do

Unknown Speaker (01:25:50.180)

but the point is to say that I'm

Unknown Speaker (01:25:52.180)

anti-Semitic, it's in all

Unknown Speaker (01:25:54.180)

the news, it's just Jones Band

Unknown Speaker (01:25:56.180)

Washington Post, New York Times, everywhere

Unknown Speaker (01:25:58.180)

for anti-Semitic posts, and he's

Unknown Speaker (01:26:00.180)

anti-Semitic, is really

Unknown Speaker (01:26:02.180)

sick

Unknown Speaker (01:26:04.180)

it would be weird

Unknown Speaker (01:26:06.180)

but it's not

Unknown Speaker (01:26:08.180)

it's not what's happening

Unknown Speaker (01:26:10.180)

also you can be pro-Israel and anti-Semitic

Unknown Speaker (01:26:12.180)

you certainly can, and Alex

Unknown Speaker (01:26:14.180)

saying that I'm pro-Israel, I always

Unknown Speaker (01:26:16.180)

have been, is ludicrous

Unknown Speaker (01:26:18.180)

just based on a couple years back

Unknown Speaker (01:26:20.180)

when he was pro-Palestinian

Unknown Speaker (01:26:22.180)

it's

Unknown Speaker (01:26:24.180)

it's silly

Unknown Speaker (01:26:26.180)

anyway

Unknown Speaker (01:26:28.180)

the thing that he's trying to present there

Unknown Speaker (01:26:30.180)

and the reason that he's trying to use

Unknown Speaker (01:26:32.180)

this idea that he's being

Unknown Speaker (01:26:34.180)

taken down because

Unknown Speaker (01:26:36.180)

he's anti-Semitic

Unknown Speaker (01:26:38.180)

he's trying to create that as the straw

Unknown Speaker (01:26:40.180)

man version of his band

Unknown Speaker (01:26:42.180)

the big reason is because

Unknown Speaker (01:26:44.180)

about a month ago he got in trouble

Unknown Speaker (01:26:46.180)

for an anti-Semitic post

Unknown Speaker (01:26:48.180)

and he's trying to conflate that situation

Unknown Speaker (01:26:50.180)

with the present day, which are completely

Unknown Speaker (01:26:52.180)

different things

Unknown Speaker (01:26:54.180)

we also know that he got a letter

Unknown Speaker (01:26:56.180)

or a message or a warning

Unknown Speaker (01:26:58.180)

a week ago for a different post

Unknown Speaker (01:27:00.180)

which is what

Unknown Speaker (01:27:02.180)

precipitated the band

Unknown Speaker (01:27:04.180)

but he wants everyone to think that

Unknown Speaker (01:27:06.180)

this is the reality

Unknown Speaker (01:27:08.180)

if you just joined us

Unknown Speaker (01:27:10.180)

leaked emails reveal Facebook's

Unknown Speaker (01:27:12.180)

intense internal discussions over

Unknown Speaker (01:27:14.180)

Alex Jones' anti-Semitic

Unknown Speaker (01:27:16.180)

post

Unknown Speaker (01:27:18.180)

that's from back in March, remember that?

Unknown Speaker (01:27:20.180)

yup

Unknown Speaker (01:27:22.180)

and then they

Unknown Speaker (01:27:24.180)

said, well he didn't say anything anti-Semitic

Unknown Speaker (01:27:26.180)

they go, well the comments are anti-Semitic

Unknown Speaker (01:27:28.180)

we have these outside leftist publications

Unknown Speaker (01:27:30.180)

wanting to be banned

Unknown Speaker (01:27:32.180)

they're reporting we're not doing enough

Unknown Speaker (01:27:34.180)

what do we do?

Unknown Speaker (01:27:36.180)

and of course we're playing a game with the media

Unknown Speaker (01:27:38.180)

Facebook directing the thing from the top

Unknown Speaker (01:27:40.180)

and we've got the internal documents

Unknown Speaker (01:27:42.180)

it's all coordinated, they go, well if we could designate him

Unknown Speaker (01:27:44.180)

a hate figure, we could ban him

Unknown Speaker (01:27:46.180)

but there's no evidence, they go, well

Unknown Speaker (01:27:48.180)

there's a few anti-Semitic comments

Unknown Speaker (01:27:50.180)

so back

Unknown Speaker (01:27:52.180)

in March, Alex posted a piece of art

Unknown Speaker (01:27:54.180)

on Instagram that played on

Unknown Speaker (01:27:56.180)

a whole bunch of anti-Semitic

Unknown Speaker (01:27:58.180)

protocols of the Elders of Zion style

Unknown Speaker (01:28:00.180)

tropes with the hashtag

Unknown Speaker (01:28:02.180)

WakeUpAmerica

Unknown Speaker (01:28:04.180)

the email chain that was discussed in an article on

Unknown Speaker (01:28:06.180)

Business Insider had to do with the very clear

Unknown Speaker (01:28:08.180)

messaging of that piece of art

Unknown Speaker (01:28:10.180)

and the way it was being presented and posted

Unknown Speaker (01:28:12.180)

on Alex's and Infowars

Unknown Speaker (01:28:14.180)

Instagram account

Unknown Speaker (01:28:16.180)

the discussion was whether or not the post itself

Unknown Speaker (01:28:18.180)

broke their community standards

Unknown Speaker (01:28:20.180)

one member of the policy team clearly pointed out

Unknown Speaker (01:28:22.180)

quote, this image is widely acknowledged

Unknown Speaker (01:28:24.180)

to be anti-Semitic and is a famous

Unknown Speaker (01:28:26.180)

image in the UK due to public controversy

Unknown Speaker (01:28:28.180)

around it, because Jeremy Corbyn

Unknown Speaker (01:28:30.180)

had commented on it and then got a lot

Unknown Speaker (01:28:32.180)

of blowback and he was like

Unknown Speaker (01:28:34.180)

I am so sorry, I did not look closely

Unknown Speaker (01:28:36.180)

that is fucked up, I

Unknown Speaker (01:28:38.180)

blew it

Unknown Speaker (01:28:40.180)

that post was taken down

Unknown Speaker (01:28:42.180)

the one from about a month ago

Unknown Speaker (01:28:44.180)

nothing to do with the current issue Alex is dealing with

Unknown Speaker (01:28:46.180)

and we know that is the case because on the last

Unknown Speaker (01:28:48.180)

episode from May 2nd

Unknown Speaker (01:28:50.180)

Alex said that Facebook gave him a warning

Unknown Speaker (01:28:52.180)

and that it was his pushing of the immigrants bring diseases

Unknown Speaker (01:28:54.180)

narrative that were the problem

Unknown Speaker (01:28:56.180)

this has nothing to do with his very

Unknown Speaker (01:28:58.180)

real anti-Semitism

Unknown Speaker (01:29:00.180)

but that is an issue that he can muddy the waters about

Unknown Speaker (01:29:02.180)

very easily

Unknown Speaker (01:29:04.180)

the anti-Semitic issue is so much easier

Unknown Speaker (01:29:06.180)

for him to manipulate than

Unknown Speaker (01:29:08.180)

the very idea that I got a

Unknown Speaker (01:29:10.180)

warning about this, my behaviour

Unknown Speaker (01:29:12.180)

and I refuse to acknowledge

Unknown Speaker (01:29:14.180)

that I was wrong and correct

Unknown Speaker (01:29:16.180)

my behaviour

Unknown Speaker (01:29:18.180)

and to some extent even within that denial

Unknown Speaker (01:29:20.180)

he was also playing on anti-Muslim

Unknown Speaker (01:29:22.180)

stereotypes

Unknown Speaker (01:29:24.180)

you bet

Unknown Speaker (01:29:26.180)

and he can easily rely on yelling about

Unknown Speaker (01:29:28.180)

Ilhan Omar and how she hates Israel

Unknown Speaker (01:29:30.180)

and he loves Israel, so how can he be

Unknown Speaker (01:29:32.180)

anti-Semitic?

Unknown Speaker (01:29:34.180)

it is an easier game for him to play than I have to point out

Unknown Speaker (01:29:36.180)

that he intentionally lied about a news article

Unknown Speaker (01:29:38.180)

in order to foment hatred of the immigrants

Unknown Speaker (01:29:40.180)

and that is what he wants to do

Unknown Speaker (01:29:42.180)

because it is easier

Unknown Speaker (01:29:44.180)

and it is one of the few paths that really he sees

Unknown Speaker (01:29:46.180)

forward I think

Unknown Speaker (01:29:48.180)

through this

Unknown Speaker (01:29:50.180)

you can't rally people to your defence

Unknown Speaker (01:29:52.180)

if the truth is

Unknown Speaker (01:29:54.180)

I got a warning about a dishonest

Unknown Speaker (01:29:56.180)

and clearly

Unknown Speaker (01:29:58.180)

fucked up story

Unknown Speaker (01:30:00.180)

that I was pushing

Unknown Speaker (01:30:02.180)

I was trying to demonise migrant populations

Unknown Speaker (01:30:04.180)

and intentionally misrepresented

Unknown Speaker (01:30:06.180)

the story

Unknown Speaker (01:30:08.180)

and then they just offered to correct

Unknown Speaker (01:30:10.180)

what I was putting into the world

Unknown Speaker (01:30:12.180)

and I said go fuck yourself

Unknown Speaker (01:30:14.180)

and then they kicked me off

Unknown Speaker (01:30:16.180)

it is really hard to garner any kind of support

Unknown Speaker (01:30:18.180)

from the president

Unknown Speaker (01:30:20.180)

from mainstream conservatives

Unknown Speaker (01:30:22.180)

those sorts of folks

Unknown Speaker (01:30:24.180)

it is really tough, it is much easier to say

Unknown Speaker (01:30:26.180)

I am being accused of anti-Semitism

Unknown Speaker (01:30:28.180)

and I am not, they don't even give any proof of it

Unknown Speaker (01:30:30.180)

it is all just because

Unknown Speaker (01:30:32.180)

I am a conservative and I support Trump

Unknown Speaker (01:30:34.180)

it is just all demonisation

Unknown Speaker (01:30:36.180)

and free speech

Unknown Speaker (01:30:38.180)

it is so much easier to play that game

Unknown Speaker (01:30:40.180)

and if Alex hadn't accidentally slipped

Unknown Speaker (01:30:42.180)

on this episode, he didn't know the ban was coming

Unknown Speaker (01:30:44.180)

so he said that he got warned

Unknown Speaker (01:30:46.180)

about this exact same thing happening

Unknown Speaker (01:30:48.180)

if he hadn't have said that

Unknown Speaker (01:30:50.180)

I probably would have no idea

Unknown Speaker (01:30:52.180)

I would just think he was a liar

Unknown Speaker (01:30:54.180)

without a specific thing to hang my hat on

Unknown Speaker (01:30:56.180)

oh, this is what is going on

Unknown Speaker (01:30:58.180)

that should tell you

Unknown Speaker (01:31:00.180)

every time there is a warning

Unknown Speaker (01:31:02.180)

every time

Unknown Speaker (01:31:04.180)

every single fucking time

Unknown Speaker (01:31:06.180)

that something bad happens to him

Unknown Speaker (01:31:08.180)

I am certain that someone has given him

Unknown Speaker (01:31:10.180)

the opportunity to do the right thing

Unknown Speaker (01:31:12.180)

every time there is a lawsuit

Unknown Speaker (01:31:14.180)

there is undoubtedly

Unknown Speaker (01:31:16.180)

some sort of a please stop

Unknown Speaker (01:31:18.180)

we know

Unknown Speaker (01:31:20.180)

in the case of the Sandy Hook case

Unknown Speaker (01:31:22.180)

there absolutely was a please stop

Unknown Speaker (01:31:24.180)

that he just didn't give a shit about

Unknown Speaker (01:31:26.180)

and ignored

Unknown Speaker (01:31:28.180)

and we know that James Oliphantus

Unknown Speaker (01:31:30.180)

and Hamdi Ulukaya

Unknown Speaker (01:31:32.180)

although those lawsuits did progress to a certain extent

Unknown Speaker (01:31:34.180)

they did still give him

Unknown Speaker (01:31:36.180)

a chance

Unknown Speaker (01:31:38.180)

he has been given every opportunity

Unknown Speaker (01:31:40.180)

to do the right thing and he never does

Unknown Speaker (01:31:42.180)

these are just the consequences

Unknown Speaker (01:31:44.180)

of the way he does business

Unknown Speaker (01:31:46.180)

it's fucking stupid

Unknown Speaker (01:31:48.180)

it's why

Unknown Speaker (01:31:50.180)

Nadler has bent over

Unknown Speaker (01:31:52.180)

backwards to give Barr like 18 different

Unknown Speaker (01:31:54.180)

warnings and like

Unknown Speaker (01:31:56.180)

for real dude, we're gonna do something

Unknown Speaker (01:31:58.180)

and Barr is like, go fuck yourself

Unknown Speaker (01:32:00.180)

it's the same situation

Unknown Speaker (01:32:02.180)

Alex tried to

Unknown Speaker (01:32:04.180)

call their bluff and it turns out they weren't bluffing

Unknown Speaker (01:32:06.180)

Barr is trying to call Nadler's bluff

Unknown Speaker (01:32:08.180)

right now and he might be bluffing

Unknown Speaker (01:32:10.180)

he's probably bluffing, yeah

Unknown Speaker (01:32:12.180)

but all that's bullshit because really what's going on

Unknown Speaker (01:32:14.180)

is that there's a conspiracy against Alex

Unknown Speaker (01:32:16.180)

and he's gonna lay that out here

Unknown Speaker (01:32:18.180)

in this next clip

Unknown Speaker (01:32:20.180)

I don't remember exactly how it works

Unknown Speaker (01:32:22.180)

because it's kind of convoluted

Unknown Speaker (01:32:24.180)

but my title for this clip

Unknown Speaker (01:32:26.180)

does include the sentence

Unknown Speaker (01:32:28.180)

this is nonsense

Unknown Speaker (01:32:30.180)

okay, I believe you

Unknown Speaker (01:33:00.180)

put Louis Farrakhan in there

Unknown Speaker (01:33:02.180)

put Louis Farrakhan in there

Unknown Speaker (01:33:04.180)

he said stuff, which I believe

Unknown Speaker (01:33:06.180)

by the way, he has a right to say, I'm not saying ban him

Unknown Speaker (01:33:08.180)

ooh boy, so Alex is saying

Unknown Speaker (01:33:10.180)

that a month ago he had this

Unknown Speaker (01:33:12.180)

brouhaha, this little dust up

Unknown Speaker (01:33:14.180)

with Instagram because of this

Unknown Speaker (01:33:16.180)

very notoriously antisemitic

Unknown Speaker (01:33:18.180)

painting that he posted with the

Unknown Speaker (01:33:20.180)

caption, wake up America

Unknown Speaker (01:33:22.180)

and then there were like

Unknown Speaker (01:33:24.180)

a bunch of conversations about whether or not

Unknown Speaker (01:33:26.180)

this violated the blah blah blah

Unknown Speaker (01:33:28.180)

and the middle management was like

Unknown Speaker (01:33:30.180)

hey, let's not ban him

Unknown Speaker (01:33:32.180)

and then now they're like

Unknown Speaker (01:33:34.180)

fuck it, let's ban him

Unknown Speaker (01:33:36.180)

cause it went up the flagpole

Unknown Speaker (01:33:38.180)

and then in order to provide cover

Unknown Speaker (01:33:40.180)

to make it look like they're not just attacking

Unknown Speaker (01:33:42.180)

Trump's people

Unknown Speaker (01:33:44.180)

throw Louis Farrakhan in there

Unknown Speaker (01:33:46.180)

I'm gonna be honest

Unknown Speaker (01:33:48.180)

I can kind of buy the

Unknown Speaker (01:33:50.180)

throw Louis Farrakhan angle in there

Unknown Speaker (01:33:52.180)

so Alex has this conspiracy nonsense

Unknown Speaker (01:33:54.180)

about how he's been targeted

Unknown Speaker (01:33:56.180)

demonized and whatever

Unknown Speaker (01:33:58.180)

I don't really care

Unknown Speaker (01:34:00.180)

this is pretty much

Unknown Speaker (01:34:02.180)

what he's, you know like at the beginning

Unknown Speaker (01:34:04.180)

of the third, this May 3rd episode

Unknown Speaker (01:34:06.180)

he said he has this like

Unknown Speaker (01:34:08.180)

total proof of him

Unknown Speaker (01:34:10.180)

being wronged

Unknown Speaker (01:34:12.180)

that's pretty much it

Unknown Speaker (01:34:14.180)

well I mean there's that Business Insider

Unknown Speaker (01:34:16.180)

article about an Instagram post from a month ago

Unknown Speaker (01:34:18.180)

and then he's saying he's got internal

Unknown Speaker (01:34:20.180)

documents, he never mentions anything

Unknown Speaker (01:34:22.180)

specific about them, he never produces

Unknown Speaker (01:34:24.180)

them, he's never posted them

Unknown Speaker (01:34:26.180)

he's never quoted from them, he's never

Unknown Speaker (01:34:28.180)

said what they say, he just says he has them

Unknown Speaker (01:34:30.180)

which from my experience with Alex

Unknown Speaker (01:34:32.180)

means they don't exist

Unknown Speaker (01:34:34.180)

so it seems shocking to me

Unknown Speaker (01:34:36.180)

that he then sums things up

Unknown Speaker (01:34:38.180)

he's summing things up?

Unknown Speaker (01:34:40.180)

So when we come back, I just went through how they premeditated this, how it's a smoking gun, that it's political, that it wasn't done because I'm an anti-Semite, and again once you say ban the anti-Semites then it's everybody. First they came for the anti-Semites. What? Once you say ban the anti-Semites it's everybody?

Unknown Speaker (01:34:58.180)

That's a weird twist on that. Is that, wait, so first they came for the Nazis and then I said nothing and then everything was fine, right?

Unknown Speaker (01:35:12.180)

Then they came for the people who wanted to enslave minorities and I said nothing because I wasn't a minority

Unknown Speaker (01:35:18.180)

No, because you weren't people enslaving minorities. Yeah, that's good. You lost track of it then. It's kind of silly in reverse.

Unknown Speaker (01:35:28.180)

So I feel that's so weird. Alex thinks he's proved something and then is expressing that. The first they came for the anti-Semites is basically the road he's starting to go down there which is very weird.

Unknown Speaker (01:35:40.180)

So remember how I told you on the second that it's funny that Alex is super like, whatever Trump wants to do I trust him because that's before the ban. Now that the ban has happened the next day.

Unknown Speaker (01:35:53.180)

How we doing? I actually can't believe they've jumped the shark like this. I think America's going to reject this but you know what? Trump hasn't done anything yet so I'm really starting to get suspect old Trumpy.

Unknown Speaker (01:36:02.180)

I'm really starting to really get worried here at this point.

Unknown Speaker (01:36:07.180)

You are so goddamn stupid, Alex. So fucking stupid.

Unknown Speaker (01:36:11.180)

If you were someone like Trump, why would you ever trust Alex? Like he's shown himself to be completely unreliable.

Unknown Speaker (01:36:19.180)

And if you're somebody like Alex, why would you ever trust Trump?

Unknown Speaker (01:36:22.180)

Well, that's desperation. I think he's gotten a lot of what he wanted out of Trump in terms of shifting the public discourse towards what he wants to be more acceptable.

Unknown Speaker (01:36:34.180)

Absolutely I think. I think Alex has done okay with it. But if you are the person in power, you gotta know this person, like Alex is gonna turn on you.

Unknown Speaker (01:36:44.180)

Oh yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:36:45.180)

In the same way that Alex should know that Trump doesn't give a fuck about him.

Unknown Speaker (01:36:48.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:36:49.180)

Like, you gotta know that Alex is, like if things are going good for him on May 2nd, he thinks that you should start a dictatorship.

Unknown Speaker (01:36:57.180)

On May 3rd, if he gets kicked off Facebook and Instagram and you haven't fucking done your dictator shit to get him back, he's going to be suspicious of you.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:06.180)

That's the kind of inconsistency and self-centeredness that Alex operates in. It's pathetic.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:13.180)

Yeah, that's a wide spectrum in a very short period of time.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:15.180)

So short.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:16.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:17.180)

But I mean, to be fair, in the intervening time, he really was just fantasizing about gardening and sweeping.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:21.180)

That's fair.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:22.180)

So his mental state-

Unknown Speaker (01:37:23.180)

Maybe he should just go garden.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:25.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:26.180)

He should just do it.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:27.180)

He should quit.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:28.180)

Pull the trigger, Alex.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:29.180)

He should definitely quit.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:32.180)

So in this next clip, what I think he's doing is, it's almost like the audience are a group of investors.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:40.180)

And Alex is trying to pitch the next season of his show.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:43.180)

Okay.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:44.180)

As if it's like an Indiegogo or something like that where it's like, here's what I want to do with the next season.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:49.180)

You can see what that is.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:52.180)

Now listen, I sued a few other people, PayPal and others. We were getting some lawsuits ready.

Unknown Speaker (01:37:58.180)

I have to sue Facebook now.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:00.180)

And I have to sue some of the media.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:02.180)

And I already warned Business Insider and told them to retract and they didn't.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:04.180)

So we are going to sue Business Insider.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:06.180)

Good luck.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:07.180)

And we are going to sue the writer personally.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:10.180)

And we're also going to sue Facebook.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:13.180)

We already have their internal documents submitted and they set me up.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:16.180)

So they're in a lot of trouble.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:18.180)

This would take a lot of money though.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:20.180)

So listen, I sell high quality products.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:23.180)

I mean it's just like, hey, do you want this fucking show to be me suing all the people you don't like?

Unknown Speaker (01:38:31.180)

Give me a lot of money.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:33.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:34.180)

That's just, I find from a narrative standpoint, like a progression of his show, I find that to be a boring next season.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:43.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:44.180)

And I'm worried that there's going to be way too much of that.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:47.180)

But I also know that he's not going to launch these lawsuits.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:49.180)

I'm starting to think that was the pitch that kept us from getting a second season of Firefly.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:55.180)

Like Joss Whedon went in there and he was like, all right, here's what I got.

Unknown Speaker (01:38:59.180)

I'm just going to sue a bunch of people that I don't like.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:02.180)

Sue Facebook.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:03.180)

And Malcolm is going to be on the side there.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:04.180)

Right.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:05.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:06.180)

Nope, we'll give you a movie about years later.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:08.180)

All right.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:09.180)

I got some good ideas now.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:10.180)

Chiwetel Ujiofor is going to be in it.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:12.180)

Great.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:13.180)

Hey.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:14.180)

Love it.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:15.180)

Filian's got to go.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:16.180)

Never.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:17.180)

All right, fine.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:18.180)

We'll give you a third season of Veronica Mars.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:21.180)

No, I hated that season.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:23.180)

So in this next clip, I just kept this in largely to reinforce how willing Alex is to

Unknown Speaker (01:39:28.180)

use his kids' Jewish heritage now because it's convenient to him.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:32.180)

Or as before, he pretended that they were not Jewish.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:36.180)

They say I'm a hate leader and hate Jewish when my children have Jewish background.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:43.180)

I just cannot put up with this crap anymore.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:46.180)

I just can't do it.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:47.180)

And by the way, Zuckerberg, I'm coming to your house with helicopters, not over it,

Unknown Speaker (01:39:50.180)

but near it.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:51.180)

I'm going to blow on your ass and I'm coming after you.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:53.180)

So you want the gloves off?

Unknown Speaker (01:39:55.180)

Gloves are off, you son of a bitch.

Unknown Speaker (01:39:58.180)

You're a Nazi.

Unknown Speaker (01:40:00.180)

You're just as bad as Hitler.

Unknown Speaker (01:40:02.180)

You're an adult.

Unknown Speaker (01:40:03.180)

And so I'm coming after you and I'm coming after all of you scumbags.

Unknown Speaker (01:40:07.180)

But hey, flood me with money.

Unknown Speaker (01:40:09.180)

You want to make me strong?

Unknown Speaker (01:40:11.180)

Turn me into a giant.

Unknown Speaker (01:40:12.180)

So that's sad at the end.

Unknown Speaker (01:40:14.180)

But I want to make it totally clear that I do not care at all about his kids Jewish or

Unknown Speaker (01:40:20.180)

not.

Unknown Speaker (01:40:21.180)

Like that means nothing to me.

Unknown Speaker (01:40:23.180)

I am not interested in it except for how he uses it.

Unknown Speaker (01:40:26.180)

Sure seems like a prop.

Unknown Speaker (01:40:28.180)

But that's the only thing.

Unknown Speaker (01:40:29.180)

I just want to be clear because I think it could be not easily, but it could be misconstrued

Unknown Speaker (01:40:35.180)

that I think it matters in some way because we're talking about it and I do not at all

Unknown Speaker (01:40:40.180)

care.

Unknown Speaker (01:40:41.180)

Yeah, no, why?

Unknown Speaker (01:40:42.180)

Because I think they deserve lives and I think they deserve every ounce of privacy about

Unknown Speaker (01:40:46.180)

who they are, their identities, all that stuff that children deserve.

Unknown Speaker (01:40:50.180)

I am only interested in the way Alex uses their identity and who they are when it's

Unknown Speaker (01:40:58.180)

convenient for him and lies about it when it's not convenient for him.

Unknown Speaker (01:41:02.180)

Yep, that's pretty much what he does.

Unknown Speaker (01:41:04.180)

So now we get into Laura Loomer showing up.

Unknown Speaker (01:41:07.180)

Oh, no.

Unknown Speaker (01:41:08.180)

And I want to be abundantly clear about this.

Unknown Speaker (01:41:11.180)

First I'm making fun of someone who's going through a mental breakdown.

Unknown Speaker (01:41:15.180)

I do not believe that from the evidence that I can see that she is having a sincere mental

Unknown Speaker (01:41:22.180)

breakdown.

Unknown Speaker (01:41:23.180)

If I'm misreading that, I empathize with what she's going through and I apologize for making

Unknown Speaker (01:41:29.180)

fun of it.

Unknown Speaker (01:41:31.180)

But based on what we're about to listen to, I think she makes it a little bit too clear

Unknown Speaker (01:41:36.180)

that she's just mad that she's not making money anymore.

Unknown Speaker (01:41:40.180)

Like in this first clip, I really think that she's being too overt that this is about money.

Unknown Speaker (01:41:46.180)

Every single time someone gets banned, it turns into a circus and everyone says, oh,

Unknown Speaker (01:41:50.180)

oh, everyone's banned.

Unknown Speaker (01:41:51.180)

Oh, President Trump, help us, please do something, OK?

Unknown Speaker (01:41:54.180)

But what are they doing?

Unknown Speaker (01:41:55.180)

Is anyone giving me money to fund my lawsuit in which I'm suing Twitter and Care because

Unknown Speaker (01:42:00.180)

Care, which is a designated Islamic terrorist organization tied to Hamas and the Muslim

Unknown Speaker (01:42:05.180)

Brotherhood, lobbied Facebook and Twitter to ban me?

Unknown Speaker (01:42:08.180)

Do people not understand that those of us who have been silenced have actually taken

Unknown Speaker (01:42:12.180)

legal action?

Unknown Speaker (01:42:13.180)

Oh, I don't think they get it's a total war.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:15.180)

No, I totally agree.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:16.180)

People need to pony up and support you.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:18.180)

They support us.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:19.180)

But the thing is, these lawsuits aren't real.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:21.180)

They know that they're not going anywhere.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:23.180)

So, like, they can do these sort of performative aspects of hiring sort of shifty lawyers in

Unknown Speaker (01:42:29.180)

order to make it look like they're going for it.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:32.180)

But they know that they don't have anywhere to go.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:34.180)

This is a hustle in and of itself.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:36.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:37.180)

The lawsuit hustle is something where it's like, hey, give me a ton of money and I will

Unknown Speaker (01:42:41.180)

pretend to fight the people you don't like.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:43.180)

Yeah, I was going to say, OK, so that's the new scam that they're all running.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:47.180)

If I get one hundred thousand dollars, I can pay my lawyer five thousand dollars to write

Unknown Speaker (01:42:52.180)

a brief.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:53.180)

And that'll take a while to be dismissed.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:55.180)

And in that intervening time period, you'll continue to give me money.

Unknown Speaker (01:42:59.180)

Most likely because then I won't have to worry about the lawsuit because it was cheap.

Unknown Speaker (01:43:03.180)

And in the intervening time, I'll continue to garner attention towards whatever I do

Unknown Speaker (01:43:09.180)

through Periscopes, where I handcuff myself to the door of Twitter or go to the lobby

Unknown Speaker (01:43:14.180)

of Facebook and demand someone see me.

Unknown Speaker (01:43:18.180)

So, Laura Loomer there in that last clip says that she's suing CAIR, the Council on American

Unknown Speaker (01:43:24.180)

Islamic Relations, and she says that they're designated as a terror organization.

Unknown Speaker (01:43:28.180)

Now, when you hear that sort of a statement, the obvious first question any right thinking

Unknown Speaker (01:43:32.180)

person should ask is, designated by whom?

Unknown Speaker (01:43:37.180)

In November 2014, CAIR was designated a terrorist organization by the United Arab Emirates in

Unknown Speaker (01:43:43.180)

a move that caused experts from all over the world to say, what the fuck?

Unknown Speaker (01:43:47.180)

UAE's former or their foreign minister, Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan, admitted and explained

Unknown Speaker (01:43:54.180)

when asked about it that, quote, our threshold is quite low when we talk about extremism.

Unknown Speaker (01:43:59.180)

They go ahead and just designate just about anybody as a terror organization.

Unknown Speaker (01:44:03.180)

And you know why?

Unknown Speaker (01:44:04.180)

Because of accusations that UAE was wrapped up in the financing of 9-11 and allegations

Unknown Speaker (01:44:10.180)

that they were trying to open an embassy for the Taliban back in 2013.

Unknown Speaker (01:44:14.180)

The UAE has been incredibly gun shy about the idea of being associated with terror groups.

Unknown Speaker (01:44:19.180)

So that kind of informs their terror group designations.

Unknown Speaker (01:44:23.180)

So the rest of the world has been very opposed to the designation of CAIR as a terrorist

Unknown Speaker (01:44:27.180)

organization.

Unknown Speaker (01:44:28.180)

Well, I should say the rest of the world, not including Ted Cruz, who has unsuccessfully

Unknown Speaker (01:44:32.180)

lobbied for the US to designate CAIR as a terror group multiple times.

Unknown Speaker (01:44:37.180)

The fact that Laura Loomer is intentionally misleading people about this should tell you

Unknown Speaker (01:44:40.180)

all you need to know about her intentions.

Unknown Speaker (01:44:43.180)

Her saying that they've been designated as a terrorist organization without pointing

Unknown Speaker (01:44:46.180)

out that it was in 2014 by the United Arab Emirates and the context surrounding that

Unknown Speaker (01:44:51.180)

means that she doesn't give a fuck.

Unknown Speaker (01:44:53.180)

She just wants the appearance there.

Unknown Speaker (01:44:55.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:44:56.180)

But it's been said that CAIR has an association with Hamas, but it's important to know

Unknown Speaker (01:45:01.180)

the details there, lest Laura Loomer be allowed to run a propaganda game on you.

Unknown Speaker (01:45:06.180)

CAIR co-founder Naheed Awad voiced support for Hamas in 1994, which predates Hamas's

Unknown Speaker (01:45:15.180)

designation as a group associated with terrorism in 1995.

Unknown Speaker (01:45:19.180)

After that point, CAIR has condemned Hamas pretty consistently, with Awad saying in 2006

Unknown Speaker (01:45:25.180)

quote, I don't support Hamas today, we condemn suicide bombings.

Unknown Speaker (01:45:30.180)

See, where are the Muslim voices speaking out against terrorists?

Unknown Speaker (01:45:35.180)

You're not listening.

Unknown Speaker (01:45:36.180)

Where are they?

Unknown Speaker (01:45:37.180)

Not listening.

Unknown Speaker (01:45:38.180)

I don't hear any of those voices coming out.

Unknown Speaker (01:45:40.180)

Right, so she's using a smear, or not even a smear, I guess it's accurate to say that

Unknown Speaker (01:45:45.180)

the co-founder supported Hamas or voiced support in 1994, but pretty consistently the

Unknown Speaker (01:45:50.180)

organization has not sensed that.

Unknown Speaker (01:45:52.180)

She's using information that may be factually true to be misleading.

Unknown Speaker (01:45:55.180)

It's completely misleading.

Unknown Speaker (01:45:56.180)

Yeah, absolutely.

Unknown Speaker (01:45:57.180)

As for the Muslim Brotherhood stuff, as best as I can tell, that's just a catch-all conservative

Unknown Speaker (01:46:01.180)

attack.

Unknown Speaker (01:46:02.180)

Whenever there's someone a right-wing propagandist doesn't like who's at least vaguely Middle

Unknown Speaker (01:46:06.180)

Eastern, they generally say that they're associated with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Unknown Speaker (01:46:09.180)

I've seen this play out over and over again with Alex, and I can't find any credible

Unknown Speaker (01:46:13.180)

sources that link CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood, so I just got to assume that Loomer's soft

Unknown Speaker (01:46:18.180)

bullshit is more of the same.

Unknown Speaker (01:46:20.180)

Yeah, they always throw the Muslim Brotherhood in there.

Unknown Speaker (01:46:24.180)

Trump is moving to get them at it.

Unknown Speaker (01:46:26.180)

Always.

Unknown Speaker (01:46:27.180)

Always.

Unknown Speaker (01:46:28.180)

Always.

Unknown Speaker (01:46:29.180)

The lack of any real credible source of a connection with that, the idea that the connection

Unknown Speaker (01:46:33.180)

with Hamas is so deep in the past and something that's very understandable and not something

Unknown Speaker (01:46:40.180)

you could really introduce into court to make them look like a terrorist organization, the

Unknown Speaker (01:46:44.180)

fact that you would have to sue them in the United States, and they're not recognized

Unknown Speaker (01:46:49.180)

as a terrorist organization in the United States, the fact that she knows that that's

Unknown Speaker (01:46:54.180)

only in UAE, that they're designated that way, she knows that that lawsuit is useless.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:00.180)

Your Honor, the UAE has designated CAIR as a terrorist organization, and I would like

Unknown Speaker (01:47:06.180)

... Why did you just say...

Unknown Speaker (01:47:08.180)

So would you like our legal system to use the UAE's legal definitions then?

Unknown Speaker (01:47:13.180)

What about sovereignty?

Unknown Speaker (01:47:14.180)

Okay.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:15.180)

All right.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:16.180)

Now, you're using a lot of words.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:18.180)

Sure.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:19.180)

And I get where they're coming from, but come on.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:22.180)

Just this once.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:24.180)

So you have to understand that when I see her having a tough time, and I'm not building

Unknown Speaker (01:47:30.180)

this up too much, but she does end up freaking out.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:33.180)

Okay.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:34.180)

A little bit on air.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:35.180)

All right.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:36.180)

When I hear in the same interview that this is like, I need people to fund my lawsuit,

Unknown Speaker (01:47:41.180)

send me money because I'm suing CAIR, who's a terrorist designated organization, she knows

Unknown Speaker (01:47:47.180)

damn well that lawsuit's never going to work out.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:49.180)

Ever.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:50.180)

It's a lawsuit scam.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:52.180)

It's a lawsuit hustle.

Unknown Speaker (01:47:54.180)

And I want to make this abundantly clear, she just continues to go on and talk about

Unknown Speaker (01:47:58.180)

how everyone needs to give her money.

Unknown Speaker (01:48:00.180)

I want people to actually do something.

Unknown Speaker (01:48:02.180)

Okay?

Unknown Speaker (01:48:03.180)

We need your money.

Unknown Speaker (01:48:04.180)

We need your support.

Unknown Speaker (01:48:05.180)

Help fund my lawsuit.

Unknown Speaker (01:48:06.180)

Give me some money to fund my lawsuit so I can take these people and defeat them in court.

Unknown Speaker (01:48:10.180)

Okay?

Unknown Speaker (01:48:11.180)

Where were all the conservatives the other night when I projected your name and Infowars

Unknown Speaker (01:48:14.180)

and everybody who has been banned onto the home of Jack Dorsey?

Unknown Speaker (01:48:18.180)

Not a single conservative tweeted my video.

Unknown Speaker (01:48:20.180)

Seems right.

Unknown Speaker (01:48:21.180)

I probably, I assume they don't want to be involved with your gross publicity stunts,

Unknown Speaker (01:48:26.180)

like when she went and hung out in Nancy Pelosi's front yard.

Unknown Speaker (01:48:29.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:48:30.180)

Like all this stuff is like, she doesn't understand that maybe some of the people not supporting

Unknown Speaker (01:48:34.180)

her is, I mean, part of it's substance and part of it's style.

Unknown Speaker (01:48:39.180)

Like it's a little bit of both.

Unknown Speaker (01:48:42.180)

Okay.

Unknown Speaker (01:48:43.180)

The argument is bad, but the way she's making it is also something that like, you don't

Unknown Speaker (01:48:47.180)

want to be involved with the girl who handcuffed herself to one door instead of two at Twitter

Unknown Speaker (01:48:55.180)

and then the cops told her like, eh, you can stay, you know, if you want us to come unlock

Unknown Speaker (01:48:59.180)

you, we'll come, uh, you know, whatever, just give us a call.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:02.180)

And then she just stood there and was like, oh, and like all the employees could still

Unknown Speaker (01:49:06.180)

get in and out of the door because she only handcuffed herself to one door.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:11.180)

It was an embarrassing thing.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:13.180)

You are so stupid.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:14.180)

When she says that no one was retweeting her stuff, it's like, maybe it's cause it's not

Unknown Speaker (01:49:18.180)

impactful.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:19.180)

Maybe you just suck, Laura.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:21.180)

Maybe you just suck and you're irrelevant and no one cares anymore.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:24.180)

Maybe that's really it.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:26.180)

Even your fan base doesn't like you anymore.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:29.180)

The hustle was fizzling and she's not very good at this.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:33.180)

She can't give up on the hustle.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:34.180)

I get it.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:35.180)

And the hustle was still pretty profitable, uh, to a certain extent along the way, but

Unknown Speaker (01:49:40.180)

now without the ability to use Periscope, uh, and, uh, Instagram and like it's, it's

Unknown Speaker (01:49:47.180)

tough for her.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:48.180)

I don't, I don't think it's going to work.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:51.180)

So, uh, at this next clip, she complains that everyone has ruined her life.

Unknown Speaker (01:49:55.180)

And I'd like to remind you that she is a conservative, uh, and part of the party of personal responsibility.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:02.180)

This is why I'm so curious.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:04.180)

Why are people, and I hate to make it all about myself, but I have been defending.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:09.180)

Okay.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:10.180)

My life has been destroyed.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:11.180)

My life has been ruined, Alex, by people who have defamed me online.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:15.180)

I am 25 years old and it will probably be like this for the rest of my life.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:19.180)

I confronted Oliver Darcy.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:21.180)

Do you remember when I chased him at CPAC down the hallway and I said, Oliver, why are

Unknown Speaker (01:50:26.180)

you working with Twitter and Facebook to ban people like Alex Jones?

Unknown Speaker (01:50:29.180)

How much are you getting paid to ban conservatives?

Unknown Speaker (01:50:31.180)

And then what happened?

Unknown Speaker (01:50:32.180)

Matt Schlapp.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:33.180)

Okay.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:34.180)

He had me banned from CPAC.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:36.180)

But that's not like, I think that you might've answered your own question.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:39.180)

You might've gotten kicked out of CPAC cause you chased a guy.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:42.180)

So like she, like, regardless of it being Oliver Darcy.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:46.180)

Straight faced, she said, I chased a guy down a hallway and then for some reason they kicked

Unknown Speaker (01:50:52.180)

me out of CPAC.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:53.180)

I chased someone and then confronted them angrily about something.

Unknown Speaker (01:50:57.180)

And then my behavior was deemed unacceptable for a conference.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:01.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:02.180)

I don't like, I think that seems reasonable.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:04.180)

We've gone down such a strange world with like in terms of, and road in terms of what's

Unknown Speaker (01:51:09.180)

acceptable.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:10.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:11.180)

That like that becomes like, huh, I wonder, is that not okay?

Unknown Speaker (01:51:15.180)

Cause it's not.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:16.180)

CPAC?

Unknown Speaker (01:51:17.180)

It kind of seems like that might be, I don't know, a gray area?

Unknown Speaker (01:51:21.180)

Do you think they had a conversation about whether to ban you?

Unknown Speaker (01:51:24.180)

But it shouldn't be.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:25.180)

The idea of chasing someone and accosting them and then being kicked out is like, wow,

Unknown Speaker (01:51:28.180)

that's the natural progression of things.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:31.180)

All right.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:32.180)

I punched Oliver Darcy because he did something that I don't like.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:35.180)

And then all of a sudden I'm banned from CPAC.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:38.180)

That's bullshit.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:39.180)

Well, and I mean like when you look at it, she's yelling at Alex about how like her,

Unknown Speaker (01:51:45.180)

like everyone's ruined her life.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:47.180)

And instead, I mean like from, from an external perspective, I do think, I do think that some

Unknown Speaker (01:51:52.180)

people who've been real shitty to her online, I definitely believe that.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:56.180)

Of course.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:57.180)

I believe that she's a woman online.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:58.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:51:59.180)

And I don't think she deserves any sort of that, that sort of treatment.

Unknown Speaker (01:52:03.180)

I don't think anyone deserves targeted harassment of any kind.

Unknown Speaker (01:52:06.180)

I do believe that she's probably been the recipient of some of it in the same way that

Unknown Speaker (01:52:10.180)

Leanne McAdoo and Alex have been the target of, you know, spurious rumors.

Unknown Speaker (01:52:15.180)

I would argue that a large portion of the attacks that she get probably get, they come

Unknown Speaker (01:52:21.180)

from her own side, but put some from the left too.

Unknown Speaker (01:52:25.180)

And I think that's inappropriate, but larger and much more importantly, the ruined life

Unknown Speaker (01:52:32.180)

portion of it comes from her work.

Unknown Speaker (01:52:35.180)

Whoa, how dare you.

Unknown Speaker (01:52:37.180)

It's the consequences of agitating against, like it disenfranchised communities for a

Unknown Speaker (01:52:43.180)

long time in dishonest, duplicitous, malicious, scammy ways.

Unknown Speaker (01:52:48.180)

This is the end result of a hustle gone bad.

Unknown Speaker (01:52:51.180)

Her body of work speaks for itself, and the words that it's speaking for itself are,

Unknown Speaker (01:52:57.180)

we did a great job, guys.

Unknown Speaker (01:52:59.180)

Let's keep on doing it.

Unknown Speaker (01:53:00.180)

But everyone's ruined.

Unknown Speaker (01:53:01.180)

I don't know why our lives are ruined.

Unknown Speaker (01:53:03.180)

Have you ever seen your own videos, Laura?

Unknown Speaker (01:53:05.180)

They're terrible.

Unknown Speaker (01:53:06.180)

And I just, like there was a time when the con man could come to a town, do a con, and

Unknown Speaker (01:53:12.180)

then disappear, and like cut their hair, or if it's a guy, he can grow a mustache.

Unknown Speaker (01:53:18.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:53:19.180)

Change your name, no one knows.

Unknown Speaker (01:53:20.180)

Now, in the days of the media as it is, and social media, you can't.

Unknown Speaker (01:53:27.180)

You are screwed in a lot of ways, and I do feel bad for Laura because she is 25.

Unknown Speaker (01:53:33.180)

And I believe if we go back to the first time we ever talked about her on the podcast, one

Unknown Speaker (01:53:38.180)

of the things that I-

Unknown Speaker (01:53:39.180)

I remember you saying specifically she's ruined her life.

Unknown Speaker (01:53:41.180)

I said I feel really bad for her, and I don't want to make fun of her because she's really

Unknown Speaker (01:53:46.180)

young.

Unknown Speaker (01:53:47.180)

She doesn't know the end result of what she's doing, and I think I also said that I don't

Unknown Speaker (01:53:52.180)

think she's very good at this.

Unknown Speaker (01:53:54.180)

I think you nailed it.

Unknown Speaker (01:53:55.180)

And I still empathize with her because she does have a long life ahead of her, and it's

Unknown Speaker (01:54:01.180)

got to suck to have your cons blow up like this.

Unknown Speaker (01:54:06.180)

It's got to be terrible, and I empathize entirely, but I would be more empathetic if she took

Unknown Speaker (01:54:13.180)

some ownership of how what she has done has caused the situation that she's in.

Unknown Speaker (01:54:20.180)

Everybody else's fault.

Unknown Speaker (01:54:21.180)

It really feels like she's blaming everybody else for the situation that she's in, and

Unknown Speaker (01:54:25.180)

it makes it a lot harder for me to feel bad in the same way that all of this focus on

Unknown Speaker (01:54:31.180)

why isn't anyone giving me money for my lawsuit?

Unknown Speaker (01:54:33.180)

Why didn't anybody retweet when I was over at Jack's house?

Unknown Speaker (01:54:36.180)

It makes it hard for me to think this is in any way an actual breakdown of mental health

Unknown Speaker (01:54:41.180)

as it is I'm at the end of this rope, the end of the scam, and the come down isn't good.

Unknown Speaker (01:54:50.180)

It was really fun for a bit, and now it's the next morning, I haven't slept, and I'm

Unknown Speaker (01:54:55.180)

like, fuck, my bones hurt.

Unknown Speaker (01:54:57.180)

And she's not famous or male enough to have a redemption tour in two years.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:02.180)

It's over for her.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:03.180)

And Katie McHugh is already the focus of one of those redemption stories recently.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:08.180)

Yeah, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:09.180)

We're going to be too bored with the redemption story by the time she would have her chance.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:13.180)

So in this next clip, Laura Loomer gets just even further down, complaining about how everyone

Unknown Speaker (01:55:18.180)

else has ruined her life.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:20.180)

It's mocked me and called me crazy, but what are they doing?

Unknown Speaker (01:55:23.180)

I want to know what people are actually going to do.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:26.180)

My life is ruined.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:29.180)

Does anybody understand how ruined my life is?

Unknown Speaker (01:55:33.180)

I'm sick of it.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:35.180)

I don't want to listen to people tell me that I'm a conspiracy theorist.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:38.180)

They don't know what it's like.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:41.180)

No, I understand.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:43.180)

I just think you need to go with it.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:45.180)

And I understand.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:47.180)

Go away.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:48.180)

Go away with it.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:49.180)

These are wars.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:50.180)

These are hard.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:51.180)

Go away with it.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:52.180)

I know your frustration, Laura.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:53.180)

You wouldn't feel bad if more men were standing up.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:55.180)

You know, Drudge Report promotes what you're doing.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:57.180)

Others do.

Unknown Speaker (01:55:58.180)

The president actually did tweet about you, and I don't know if you knew this, about you

Unknown Speaker (01:56:04.180)

and Watson being banned.

Unknown Speaker (01:56:06.180)

But I mean, I agree.

Unknown Speaker (01:56:08.180)

Tweeting isn't enough, but at least the president is concerned about it.

Unknown Speaker (01:56:11.180)

So it's uncomfortable.

Unknown Speaker (01:56:13.180)

I saw it in your face, and I felt it when I listened to this.

Unknown Speaker (01:56:16.180)

It's uncomfortable to listen to someone behave this way.

Unknown Speaker (01:56:20.180)

The two things that I think are worth it and the why, this is uncomfortable.

Unknown Speaker (01:56:27.180)

And I know it is, and I'm sure people listening are experiencing it as uncomfortable.

Unknown Speaker (01:56:31.180)

The reason that I think it's important to still listen to this and still discuss it are two things.

Unknown Speaker (01:56:36.180)

One, what you're hearing is the scam fizzling out.

Unknown Speaker (01:56:41.180)

When someone is at the end of their rope, what they do is yell about how the people within the movement

Unknown Speaker (01:56:47.180)

and everybody else isn't supporting them and they need to send them money instead of being like,

Unknown Speaker (01:56:51.180)

well, I had a good run.

Unknown Speaker (01:56:53.180)

I guess I'm going to lay low for a year and then come back as Lauren Lumiere or something like that.

Unknown Speaker (01:56:59.180)

Right.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:00.180)

It's the bitterness and the anger of recognizing without accepting that you are at the end of the con.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:07.180)

And I think there's something interesting there.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:09.180)

And then secondarily, it's super interesting to see how little Alex gives a shit.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:14.180)

Oh, he does not give a shit.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:15.180)

Does not care at all.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:16.180)

He is not dealing with her in an empathic way.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:19.180)

He's not recognizing that what she's expressing is on some level rejection.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:24.180)

Some of it is her feeling like people...

Unknown Speaker (01:57:28.180)

Like Alex are rejecting her.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:30.180)

Did you...

Unknown Speaker (01:57:31.180)

I guess you're not on Twitter, so you couldn't have retweeted it.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:35.180)

No, but there is...

Unknown Speaker (01:57:36.180)

What she's expressing also, or maybe mostly, is a betrayal of what she thought were the people egging her on to do this.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:44.180)

It feels that way.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:46.180)

That's also something that has to be in there because part of why she did all of this stuff was because of all of the support she was getting.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:56.180)

The positive feedback.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:57.180)

Yeah, look at how great I'm doing.

Unknown Speaker (01:57:59.180)

Lori, you're one of the most intrepid young reporters out there.

Unknown Speaker (01:58:02.180)

You're getting the truth.

Unknown Speaker (01:58:03.180)

Then if you really believe that one, why are you abandoning me now?

Unknown Speaker (01:58:08.180)

Well, I don't know if Alex is abandoning her, but when she's expressing these things...

Unknown Speaker (01:58:13.180)

I mean, that's her feelings.

Unknown Speaker (01:58:14.180)

Right.

Unknown Speaker (01:58:15.180)

When she comes to Alex with this, Alex is...

Unknown Speaker (01:58:18.180)

You could hear a complete lack of care.

Unknown Speaker (01:58:21.180)

You got to go with it.

Unknown Speaker (01:58:22.180)

You got to go with it.

Unknown Speaker (01:58:23.180)

I don't know if you heard, but the president tweeted.

Unknown Speaker (01:58:26.180)

How do you feel about that?

Unknown Speaker (01:58:27.180)

And I don't like, but I find it interesting that it is in such harsh contrast with the day before when Leanne was on and being like,

Unknown Speaker (01:58:35.180)

Alex, you've built up this thing. You can take care of yourself.

Unknown Speaker (01:58:38.180)

This sincerely empathic response to Alex's bullshit is so mirrored by Alex's lack of empathy towards Laura,

Unknown Speaker (01:58:48.180)

who needs him to have some kind of like, we're going to get through this or like, you know, hey, I know it feels dark.

Unknown Speaker (01:58:55.180)

And he's giving a little bit of that, like it's a war, but even that is suck it up.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:00.180)

Go away.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:01.180)

Not go away, but suck it up.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:02.180)

Time to sack it. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:04.180)

So Alex brings up that the president has tweeted about you and you should feel great about that.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:09.180)

And then Laura does not give a shit.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:12.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:13.180)

Tweeting isn't enough, but at least the president is concerned about it.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:16.180)

Okay.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:17.180)

He's concerned about it, but that's not going to stop the fact that I've lost 90% of my income.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:22.180)

That's not going to stop the fact that I literally can't make a living anymore.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:26.180)

Even though I have a degree, I was valedictorian in college.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:30.180)

I graduated top of my class in my journalism program.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:33.180)

And I can't have you been in the trenches six years and delivered nothing but the goods.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:39.180)

And then now you're wondering, as a soldier in this fight, why nobody even will give you a can of beans.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:46.180)

Nobody. And I'm sick of it.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:47.180)

I'm fighting harder than most conservatives.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:49.180)

I'm fighting harder than anybody.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:51.180)

And I'm being destroyed.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:53.180)

And they mock me and they say I'm some crazy conspiracy.

Unknown Speaker (01:59:56.180)

Well, that's what happens, Laura Leder.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:00.180)

I hear you.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:01.180)

Cut her.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:02.180)

That was, that almost sounds like he cut her audio off so he could finish saying that.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:08.180)

I don't know, but that's what she's embodying there is that what you were talking about.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:14.180)

That was like, I should, no one cares that I can't make money anymore.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:19.180)

And I've tarnished my reputation.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:21.180)

I have a degree.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:22.180)

I deserve all that.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:24.180)

And like you don't deserve your work has not.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:27.180)

You know, this is your your own principles are being very, very contradicted by your what you feel you're entitled to.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:37.180)

And especially when like these these folks and Infowars entire thing is like, hey, I know all you scientists have degrees, but you're wrong about global warming.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:46.180)

I asked my friend Lord Moncton.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:48.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:49.180)

So like he's a Lord.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:50.180)

Right.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:51.180)

I know you have degrees.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:52.180)

She has a degree.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:53.180)

Of course, she deserves a job.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:54.180)

Let's talk about her degree.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:55.180)

She might get a job at the Atlantic.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:57.180)

So that's still available.

Unknown Speaker (02:00:58.180)

Laura Loomer graduated from Barry University.

Unknown Speaker (02:01:01.180)

If you check Barry University's website, you'll find that they don't offer a journalism program.

Unknown Speaker (02:01:05.180)

She could have received a degree in advertising, in broadcast and emerging media, in communication and media studies or in public relations.

Unknown Speaker (02:01:14.180)

But the best Barry Manilow's University.

Unknown Speaker (02:01:16.180)

No, but the best she could have received in terms of an actual journalism education is to have a minor in journalism, which Barry does offer.

Unknown Speaker (02:01:25.180)

But they don't offer a major.

Unknown Speaker (02:01:27.180)

The only three times that the word journalism is even used in Barry University's page of available undergraduate majors is in the descriptions of how their philosophy, English and communications programs are kind of related to journalism.

Unknown Speaker (02:01:39.180)

Gotcha.

Unknown Speaker (02:01:40.180)

She apparently might have also attended Mount Holyoke College at some point.

Unknown Speaker (02:01:45.180)

I'm not sure.

Unknown Speaker (02:01:46.180)

I've seen that on a couple of websites, but I don't know if that's 100 percent true.

Unknown Speaker (02:01:51.180)

But that school does have a journalism program.

Unknown Speaker (02:01:53.180)

OK.

Unknown Speaker (02:01:54.180)

But it's a journalism program that they run as an independent study program that students can enter with a faculty sponsor.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:00.180)

But even if she did go to that school, which I'm not entirely sure she did or not, she didn't graduate from there.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:05.180)

Ergo, she doesn't have a journalism degree.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:07.180)

She wasn't in a journalism program for her to be at the top of her class that she graduated from.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:13.180)

Also, when Laura was in college, she was already working with Project Veritas, which anyone who studied journalism probably would be adverse to doing.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:21.180)

While at Barry, she attempted a stunt where she tried to trick the school into starting a, quote, humanitarian pro-ISIS group, where she went around and talked to, you know, professors at the school.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:33.180)

God, she is so exhausting.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:34.180)

Yep.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:35.180)

She's just exhausting.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:36.180)

Just like, ugh.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:37.180)

And because of that stunt, she was suspended from the school and one of the professors who she filmed without permission filed a criminal complaint against her.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:44.180)

If she'd ever taken any real journalism classes, that whole dust up probably could have been avoided.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:49.180)

But she didn't.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:50.180)

And she didn't avoid it.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:52.180)

I wonder why she's not getting offers of, like, other journalism jobs.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:56.180)

Right, like at some legitimate outlet.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:58.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:02:59.180)

Instead, writing a blog and scamming on Periscope.

Unknown Speaker (02:03:03.180)

Sure seems like she has the track record of a crack journalist.

Unknown Speaker (02:03:07.180)

But you understand, like, my entire conviction is the immediacy is so important to these people.

Unknown Speaker (02:03:14.180)

In the same way that, like, after tragic events around the world, it's so important for places like Infowars and these outlets to get their spin out fast.

Unknown Speaker (02:03:26.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:03:27.180)

Because while the concrete is still drying, they're able to put their initials in.

Unknown Speaker (02:03:32.180)

But once it dries, there's nothing they can do.

Unknown Speaker (02:03:35.180)

It's the same thing with the scams of so many of these people.

Unknown Speaker (02:03:39.180)

The immediacy is important.

Unknown Speaker (02:03:41.180)

Laura Loomer doesn't have Infowars.com, this sort of already established place where they can publish news.

Unknown Speaker (02:03:49.180)

So her version of immediacy is these live streams and things like that that she could do.

Unknown Speaker (02:03:54.180)

That being taken away is, it's devastating to her being able to run this hustle.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:00.180)

And that's all that's here is a recognition that without these tools, I can't do, I can't distract people.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:10.180)

I can't trick them the way that I could.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:12.180)

And, uh-oh, as the sun sets on that scam, I recognize that no one is ever going to hire me.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:20.180)

Right.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:21.180)

Because of this fucking career that I've had.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:23.180)

My bullshit is weak.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:25.180)

And no one, you said the Atlantic.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:28.180)

Just imagine her going in for a fucking interview.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:31.180)

And they let Friedersdorf talk.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:33.180)

Well, still. Still.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:37.180)

I hate Friedersdorf so much.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:39.180)

Still, as much as you hate him, doesn't have as assailable a career as Laura Loomer does at this point.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:47.180)

And look, going to give it to him, man can write a sentence.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:51.180)

I don't know if Laura can.

Unknown Speaker (02:04:52.180)

The other thing with Laura, though, is she's so forgettable in the way that you just tell that trying to get a pro-immigration ISIS or whatever it is.

Unknown Speaker (02:05:04.180)

That's just exhausting and forgettable.

Unknown Speaker (02:05:07.180)

If in the moment people can get riled up about it, but in two days you've completely forgotten what was going on.

Unknown Speaker (02:05:14.180)

So if she's not constantly in your face, she's gone immediately.

Unknown Speaker (02:05:18.180)

That's the other piece of the requirement of these tools.

Unknown Speaker (02:05:21.180)

Yeah, she has to be always reminding you to pay attention to her.

Unknown Speaker (02:05:25.180)

The line is that I empathize with the pain that she's feeling.

Unknown Speaker (02:05:29.180)

I absolutely do, but I don't empathize with the consequences of your career catching up with you.

Unknown Speaker (02:05:36.180)

So the freakout that you're seeing is, there's a part of it that's kind of real.

Unknown Speaker (02:05:41.180)

And that part is something that I don't want to belittle and I don't want to mock.

Unknown Speaker (02:05:48.180)

But so much of it is just, I don't have a money stream anymore because my scam is ruined.

Unknown Speaker (02:05:54.180)

I freaked out whenever I got fired and that's essentially what she's going through.

Unknown Speaker (02:05:58.180)

She's basically being fired from her position as scam artist.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:03.180)

Yeah, it's a little different.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:05.180)

It's a little different, I mean, as a functional concept.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:08.180)

It's a little different.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:10.180)

I get why it's different.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:12.180)

You're not meeting me halfway.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:14.180)

I'm not.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:15.180)

No.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:16.180)

In this next clip, Laura says something fairly extreme and then something else fairly extreme.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:23.180)

Oh, well good.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:24.180)

I'm pissed too.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:25.180)

No, I hear what you're saying.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:26.180)

These people don't understand.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:27.180)

Like, my life is unlivable at this point in time.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:30.180)

Like, what is the point?

Unknown Speaker (02:06:31.180)

What is the point?

Unknown Speaker (02:06:32.180)

Don't say that, Laura.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:33.180)

You're a hero to a lot of people.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:35.180)

I am 25 years old and I don't want to live the rest of my life.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:40.180)

I could potentially live 75 more years, you know what I'm saying?

Unknown Speaker (02:06:43.180)

And like, my life now, I have to worry about getting murdered by leftists and Muslims every

Unknown Speaker (02:06:48.180)

single time I cross that.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:49.180)

Oh, I know.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:50.180)

It's disgusting.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:51.180)

Oh, I know, I know.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:52.180)

They're so protected.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:53.180)

It's so sick.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:54.180)

I'm so sick.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:55.180)

Really fucking hard to feel bad for anybody after that.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:57.180)

Yeah, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:06:58.180)

You know, as much as there is a sense, like, she's talked about how her life wouldn't be

Unknown Speaker (02:07:02.180)

worth living without social media before, which is pretty scary.

Unknown Speaker (02:07:05.180)

Like, if she was my friend, I would definitely be much more like, hey, Laura, we need to

Unknown Speaker (02:07:11.180)

talk about this.

Unknown Speaker (02:07:12.180)

You need to go talk to somebody.

Unknown Speaker (02:07:13.180)

She should learn how to garden.

Unknown Speaker (02:07:15.180)

Sure.

Unknown Speaker (02:07:16.180)

Alex should be recommending that.

Unknown Speaker (02:07:17.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:07:18.180)

And, you know, on a personal level, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:07:19.180)

I mean, this is a tough line for me to walk in terms of what I want to make fun of and

Unknown Speaker (02:07:24.180)

what I want to just point out, like, she's clearly lying.

Unknown Speaker (02:07:27.180)

This is all just about her scam blowing up.

Unknown Speaker (02:07:30.180)

And it's difficult as an external observer to really know exactly what's going on.

Unknown Speaker (02:07:35.180)

You know, like, I recognize that there's a decent chance that she does feel like her

Unknown Speaker (02:07:40.180)

life's not worth living without the notoriety, celebrity cash flow that social media offers

Unknown Speaker (02:07:47.180)

her, because it's much easier than doing real work.

Unknown Speaker (02:07:50.180)

I recognize that there's a possibility that she does feel that way, and it is a real mental

Unknown Speaker (02:07:56.180)

health issue.

Unknown Speaker (02:07:58.180)

At the same time, I also recognize that she sucks, she's terrible, she says really fucked

Unknown Speaker (02:08:05.180)

up things, and it's equally possible that she's saying that to make people, like, think

Unknown Speaker (02:08:13.180)

that this is an extreme situation and they should rush to her aid.

Unknown Speaker (02:08:17.180)

I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (02:08:18.180)

I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (02:08:19.180)

If it's sincere, then I hope she gets help and I would not mock someone actually struggling

Unknown Speaker (02:08:25.180)

with things.

Unknown Speaker (02:08:26.180)

When you hear someone appear on Infowars and make it so much about how, like, no one's

Unknown Speaker (02:08:32.180)

supporting me, everybody needs to give me money so I can do this bullshit lawsuit against

Unknown Speaker (02:08:36.180)

this group that I've demonized because they're Muslims and I've decided that they're terrorists,

Unknown Speaker (02:08:42.180)

and then she ends with, like, I don't want to live the rest of my life because I have

Unknown Speaker (02:08:46.180)

to worry about being killed by leftists and Muslims, I find it hard to label it mental

Unknown Speaker (02:08:50.180)

illness.

Unknown Speaker (02:08:53.180)

I'm not, you know, it doesn't sound like it.

Unknown Speaker (02:08:56.180)

I'm not going to say, you know, maybe that's a, there's an entirely, it's entirely possible

Unknown Speaker (02:09:01.180)

that my bias is coming in and I'm not able to empathize with her the way that I would

Unknown Speaker (02:09:07.180)

be if it was somebody else.

Unknown Speaker (02:09:09.180)

You know, maybe I'm far less willing to give any kind of actual, I would say, like, time

Unknown Speaker (02:09:19.180)

and effort into truly empathizing and trying to figure out just based on her performance,

Unknown Speaker (02:09:26.180)

which is currently what I think it is.

Unknown Speaker (02:09:28.180)

Maybe it's hard to say it's not.

Unknown Speaker (02:09:31.180)

But, yeah, all signs point to she got off the phone and shook Piers Morgan's hand and

Unknown Speaker (02:09:40.180)

said, we did a great job today.

Unknown Speaker (02:09:42.180)

You know what I'm saying?

Unknown Speaker (02:09:43.180)

Sure.

Unknown Speaker (02:09:44.180)

And if, like, you know, if there is a mental illness aspect that drives Alex to do what

Unknown Speaker (02:09:49.180)

he does, how much should we calculate that into our assessment?

Unknown Speaker (02:09:55.180)

I do think that it's appropriate to empathize with the struggles that people go through,

Unknown Speaker (02:10:00.180)

even if they're monsters.

Unknown Speaker (02:10:01.180)

You know, you shouldn't mock somebody for human struggles, even if, like, if they're

Unknown Speaker (02:10:07.180)

someone that you disagree with and you think does bad things.

Unknown Speaker (02:10:11.180)

But if it's mental illness that's leading Alex and Laura Loomer to go down these roads

Unknown Speaker (02:10:16.180)

as they do, and they continue to do so unapologetically and don't seem to give a shit about that aspect

Unknown Speaker (02:10:24.180)

of it, how much are we required to care?

Unknown Speaker (02:10:28.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:10:29.180)

I struggle with that.

Unknown Speaker (02:10:30.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:10:31.180)

And I think that we've done a pretty good job of not making fun of this breakdown that

Unknown Speaker (02:10:35.180)

she's had and kind of discussing it.

Unknown Speaker (02:10:38.180)

Maybe we've gone too far into giving her too much credit.

Unknown Speaker (02:10:40.180)

Probably.

Unknown Speaker (02:10:41.180)

I'm not entirely sure.

Unknown Speaker (02:10:42.180)

But I don't think that I would feel ugly.

Unknown Speaker (02:10:44.180)

I definitely would feel ugly if we came in and were like, haha, look at this asshole.

Unknown Speaker (02:10:49.180)

Because there is something going on.

Unknown Speaker (02:10:51.180)

It's, I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (02:10:53.180)

In this situation, it doesn't, like, that kind of freakout does not seem mentally ill

Unknown Speaker (02:11:00.180)

so much as somewhat reasonable.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:02.180)

It does.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:03.180)

Like, coming to terms with what's actually going on.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:05.180)

It's probably how I would feel.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:06.180)

Like, she's just going, yeah, she's just going through the stages of grief.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:09.180)

If I had no filter, it's probably how I would present myself if I were on Infowars and my

Unknown Speaker (02:11:13.180)

scam was busting.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:14.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:15.180)

Like, it kind of does.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:16.180)

Kind of makes sense, because, yeah, you did ruin your life.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:20.180)

And I would feel really pissed off about that, and I would also be pissed off at the people

Unknown Speaker (02:11:24.180)

who aren't going down that could in some way help my scam not blow up.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:30.180)

Yep.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:31.180)

You know?

Unknown Speaker (02:11:32.180)

It's a Hail Mary-ish thing.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:34.180)

It could be a Hail Mary kind of situation.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:36.180)

It's hard to say.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:37.180)

We'll see.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:38.180)

No, she was lower, she was low level in the mafia.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:41.180)

She's the one who's going to go down, you know?

Unknown Speaker (02:11:43.180)

You're not going to take down the Sean Hannity's.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:46.180)

No.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:47.180)

But it's easy to get rid of a little, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:49.180)

I guess if I had to put a button on this, I would say, I care, but I don't care that

Unknown Speaker (02:11:55.180)

much.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:56.180)

Fair.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:57.180)

Thanks.

Unknown Speaker (02:11:58.180)

What I care more about is, again, like I'm saying, Alex is doing a really bad job of

Unknown Speaker (02:12:03.180)

caring about someone who is a coworker, more or less.

Unknown Speaker (02:12:07.180)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:12:08.180)

A contemporary, someone who's in the fight with him, who's having a tough time.

Unknown Speaker (02:12:13.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:12:14.180)

And in this last clip-

Unknown Speaker (02:12:15.180)

It's a little bit, it's a little bit like you're at a bar with some old dude who's telling

Unknown Speaker (02:12:19.180)

you the story about how, oh yeah, I lost my job and then my wife died and my daughter,

Unknown Speaker (02:12:26.180)

she's got some health issues right now, I got to help her with some back surgery.

Unknown Speaker (02:12:29.180)

And it's all because of the Jews.

Unknown Speaker (02:12:31.180)

And you're like, okay, now, all right.

Unknown Speaker (02:12:34.180)

Uh-oh.

Unknown Speaker (02:12:35.180)

If you had led with the Jews did that part, I wouldn't have cared as much.

Unknown Speaker (02:12:40.180)

You snuck me in.

Unknown Speaker (02:12:43.180)

So in this last clip from their interview, I just think Alex does a really bad job of

Unknown Speaker (02:12:48.180)

reassuring her because I think the message is supposed to be like, keep your chin up,

Unknown Speaker (02:12:52.180)

which is dismissive, but it's just also, he does such a bad job of this.

Unknown Speaker (02:12:57.180)

Well, most of them are cowards.

Unknown Speaker (02:12:59.180)

They're just hangers on.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:01.180)

We got Trump elected and all the parasites came in.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:04.180)

And just remember, it's better than Hillary, but I understand.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:06.180)

Well, keep doing it.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:07.180)

Let's get you back on soon.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:08.180)

This is back on tomorrow about what you're doing next, how folks support you.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:11.180)

And we'll track this as it unfolds.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:13.180)

But I know being called an anti-Semite by Zuckerberg and all of them is painful.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:17.180)

And I know it hurts and I know it's a lie and I know you feel alone right now, but it's

Unknown Speaker (02:13:21.180)

always darkness for the dawn, Laura.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:23.180)

God bless you.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:24.180)

Laura Loomer, folks.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:25.180)

Freeloomer.com supporter.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:26.180)

So you heard her say something and it just was illegible.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:30.180)

She was trying to.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:31.180)

Trying to say something during that, like Alex steamrolling through the, we got to go

Unknown Speaker (02:13:35.180)

to commercials, so I'm going to say something as a boilerplate.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:38.180)

Keep your chin up.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:39.180)

Trump is elected.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:41.180)

They're parasites.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:42.180)

You're brave.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:43.180)

Keep doing what you're doing.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:44.180)

Anyways, we'll probably talk to you soon.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:46.180)

Probably not.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:47.180)

Let us know how you're doing.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:48.180)

We'll see.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:49.180)

Maybe give us a call.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:51.180)

Send us, we'll read a text.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:53.180)

So Alex has been banned by social media.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:56.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:57.180)

And again, I say we'll see how effective this is.

Unknown Speaker (02:13:59.180)

Could be, could not be.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:00.180)

I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:01.180)

We'll see.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:02.180)

Let's hope.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:03.180)

Alex has said he's been kicked off things a lot in the past.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:07.180)

And in this next clip, I think he recognizes that he's cried Wolf way too many times.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:13.180)

They hear about bands so long that when the super band comes, he's super bad.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:18.180)

That's how you know, you've said band too many times.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:21.180)

You have to call it a super band.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:22.180)

Right, right.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:23.180)

Um, he's talking about his audience when he says they, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:26.180)

They hear about bands so long that when the super band comes, people already heard about

Unknown Speaker (02:14:30.180)

the earlier bands.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:31.180)

They're kind of like, eh, cause I would think we'd see massive financial spike and support.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:35.180)

We're not really seeing that right now.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:37.180)

Cause people are kind of used, yeah old Alex, you know, Godzilla's out there fighting Megalon.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:41.180)

He'll win.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:42.180)

Don't worry.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:43.180)

No, this Godzilla's like bleeding and like flopping around and bitten by seven headed

Unknown Speaker (02:14:47.180)

monsters.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:48.180)

I need some damn money.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:49.180)

Okay.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:50.180)

And by the way, one sick part of me wants us to fail and go away and give up, but my

Unknown Speaker (02:14:53.180)

guts can't quit.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:54.180)

So I'm just telling you, man, we need some damn money here and I'll sell you the best

Unknown Speaker (02:14:58.180)

products anyways.

Unknown Speaker (02:14:59.180)

Get in there, buy them and sign up for auto-ship.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:01.180)

Ooh.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:02.180)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:03.180)

This is sad.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:04.180)

Cause Alex is also in many ways coming to the end of the grift.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:07.579)

This is still on the same episode.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:08.779)

This is on the third.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:09.779)

This is after Laura's gone.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:10.779)

So we got Laura screaming, I need money, which probably made Alex want to get rid of her

Unknown Speaker (02:15:16.619)

sooner.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:17.619)

Of course.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:18.619)

In the same way that he got-

Unknown Speaker (02:15:19.619)

So he can scream, I need money.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:20.619)

In the same way that he's expressed that Roger was taking up too many of the donations coming

Unknown Speaker (02:15:23.460)

in.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:24.460)

Oh yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:25.460)

Oh yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:26.460)

We got to cut him loose.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:27.460)

Yep.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:28.460)

You don't want Laura Loomer coming on your show and just being like, I need money.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:29.460)

Do you understand 90% of my income is gone?

Unknown Speaker (02:15:31.819)

I am a degreed person.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:35.539)

I deserve to be successful in journalism.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:40.220)

He doesn't want that coming in cause that could siphon off some of the money.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:43.020)

He's a little pissed off about that.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:44.659)

And so a lot of the rest of the things that he needs to say are like, I need money.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:48.659)

More fundraise.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:49.659)

You would think whenever I tell people that we need money cause we're banned from things

Unknown Speaker (02:15:54.460)

that you'd see a large spike in donations.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:56.739)

We're not seeing that.

Unknown Speaker (02:15:58.739)

Only because I've said this repeatedly in the past and mysteriously I never disappear

Unknown Speaker (02:16:03.819)

and none of the things I say are going to happen end up happening.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:07.460)

And there's diminishing returns as we've talked about so much.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:11.220)

People get into him then naturally leave.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:14.140)

Some people stay, a lot of people leave.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:16.699)

What's been disrupted is this inflow that replaces the outflow.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:20.779)

As that happens, of course the people who are sticking around can only be squeezed so

Unknown Speaker (02:16:25.300)

much.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:26.300)

And so if he doesn't see a massive spike, it's because the people who are there, there's

Unknown Speaker (02:16:31.220)

less inflow coming in.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:33.459)

There aren't enough people to dupe.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:36.020)

It's just, it's the natural reality.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:38.459)

So if that's the effect of these bans, then I think it's good because it will end up cutting

Unknown Speaker (02:16:45.180)

off that flow.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:47.059)

And that's important.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:48.059)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:49.059)

That'll do it.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:50.059)

That'll be a far more effective ban than anything else.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:52.500)

Getting rid of the people who find him, it will be so much better.

Unknown Speaker (02:16:59.139)

Getting rid of the recruitment indoctrination part of the pipeline is very important.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:05.479)

And then also, I know enough from listening to enough of this dude, he talks all the time

Unknown Speaker (02:17:10.059)

about the money goes away, I'll be in a garage doing this.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:14.860)

I know he won't.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:15.940)

He absolutely won't.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:17.180)

He'll go garden.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:18.520)

That part's sincere.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:19.940)

That part of like, I have millions of dollars, I will just go have a ranch with my family

Unknown Speaker (02:17:24.500)

or something like that.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:25.500)

I could see him doing that.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:27.479)

The idea of like, I'm going to continue fighting the globalist in a fucking garage.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:30.860)

No, you're not.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:32.479)

So getting rid of that, like cashflow from new folk coming in, I think is crucially important.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:38.219)

And I hope that's the effect of this because it does seem like Alex is hurting for money.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:44.659)

I just need your prayers and financial support because like I'll grow a hundred feet tall

Unknown Speaker (02:17:48.379)

and take these guys on, but I mean, that's literally when you give us money and you spread

Unknown Speaker (02:17:52.139)

the word, I get stronger, they get weaker.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:54.540)

So I need your will.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:56.739)

I need you to support me.

Unknown Speaker (02:17:58.620)

I need it now.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:02.780)

He needs it now.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:03.780)

Oh boy.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:04.780)

Needs your money now.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:05.780)

That's sad.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:06.780)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:07.780)

So I think we've come to the end here of the clips.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:09.520)

I have one more clip, but I don't think it's even worth it.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:11.819)

Alex's lawyer is on for a large portion of the episode.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:14.739)

Barnes, your buddy Barnes.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:15.739)

How did he do?

Unknown Speaker (02:18:16.739)

Fuck it.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:17.739)

I'll go ahead and play this.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:18.739)

Let's hear some Barnes.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:19.739)

All right.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:20.739)

This is Barnes making a shocking admission.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:22.620)

I mean, I'm one of the founding people involved in supporting human events.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:28.180)

So Alex has a guest on who's bringing back the publication Human Events.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:32.579)

Oh, I was going to be like, did he just claim to have started evolution?

Unknown Speaker (02:18:37.579)

I started the world.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:39.139)

Alex says that when he was in high school, he read the publication Human Events.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:45.020)

I believe it started publishing in 1944 or something like that and disappeared not too

Unknown Speaker (02:18:51.500)

long ago.

Unknown Speaker (02:18:52.500)

Now it's being brought back by this guy who's a part of UKIP and apparently somehow Alex's

Unknown Speaker (02:18:58.059)

lawyer is involved with the relaunching of this publication.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:01.020)

Weird.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:02.020)

It's really fucked up that his lawyer is saying that he's one of the founding people behind

Unknown Speaker (02:19:04.420)

Human Events.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:05.540)

Here's some of the reasons why.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:07.100)

In 1949, the publication had a, it seemed to at least have a very pro-Vichy French position.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:13.059)

I was about to say like it was started in 1944 with decidedly, we should have let Hitler

Unknown Speaker (02:19:19.180)

win views.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:20.180)

I don't know exactly, but I think 1949 is too late to pretend you're naive about the

Unknown Speaker (02:19:24.979)

Vichy French.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:27.500)

That's a little weird.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:28.739)

Also, Human Events was literally supportive of apartheid in South Africa, calling it a

Unknown Speaker (02:19:34.100)

quote pro-Western bulwark.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:36.059)

It was a fad at the time.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:38.299)

Everybody was doing it.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:39.299)

Very into apartheid.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:40.379)

Everybody was doing it.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:41.379)

Also, Human Events gives out conservative of the year awards.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:45.340)

Here are some of the winners that Alex would probably have some issues with getting some

Unknown Speaker (02:19:48.579)

kind of an award.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:49.579)

Hitler.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:50.579)

There's a long list of them.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:51.579)

Stuff.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:52.579)

It only started in like 90 something.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:55.139)

But here's some of them that Alex would be pretty mad about.

Unknown Speaker (02:19:58.219)

2001, the recipient was George W. Bush.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:01.100)

Of course.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:02.100)

2002, John Ashcroft.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:03.100)

Ooh.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:04.100)

2009, Dick Cheney.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:05.420)

Of course.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:06.420)

2011, Paul Ryan.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:07.420)

Ooh.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:08.420)

2013, Daryl Isa.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:09.420)

The guy who ISIS is named after, according to Matt Drudge, when he came on Alex's show.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:16.940)

It's just stupid.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:17.940)

There's this publication.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:18.940)

I don't understand why his lawyer is involved with that.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:21.739)

That was the part-

Unknown Speaker (02:20:22.739)

It's got a side hustle.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:23.739)

That's very weird to me.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:24.739)

And also the fact that they were at least supportive of the Vichy French in 1949.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:29.139)

Very strange.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:30.139)

That's a bit late.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:31.139)

So we come to the end.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:32.459)

And the thing is-

Unknown Speaker (02:20:33.459)

Also, good work, Barnes.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:35.459)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:36.459)

Great work.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:37.459)

That's good work from the Newman Events magazine.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:40.659)

I think that the important thing here is you got the ban and everyone, rightfully, I think,

Unknown Speaker (02:20:51.379)

is taking a pretty simplistic view on it with the headlines that are going around and Alex

Unknown Speaker (02:20:55.219)

has kicked off these things.

Unknown Speaker (02:20:58.620)

And that's fine.

Unknown Speaker (02:21:00.700)

I think if people want to just have the perception that he got kicked off for things that he

Unknown Speaker (02:21:04.620)

did, that's pretty accurate.

Unknown Speaker (02:21:07.020)

But if you want, I think it's always interesting to look at these things as they happen because

Unknown Speaker (02:21:11.899)

Alex gives clues as to what's going on.

Unknown Speaker (02:21:14.459)

He accidentally reveals pretty much most of the stuff that's happening.

Unknown Speaker (02:21:18.860)

And when you look at this, it's clear that he was given a chance to not be banned and

Unknown Speaker (02:21:23.059)

he did it because it reinforces that message of persecution and helps him with the same

Unknown Speaker (02:21:30.239)

scam that Loomer's running.

Unknown Speaker (02:21:32.139)

With her pretending that she's going to sue Care, Alex can do the same thing with Business

Unknown Speaker (02:21:36.299)

Insider and Facebook and all these fake lawsuit hustles.

Unknown Speaker (02:21:41.120)

You bring in tons of money from people by pretending that you'll be their champion and

Unknown Speaker (02:21:45.299)

fight their perceived enemies, when in reality, you're probably just pocketing it or using

Unknown Speaker (02:21:49.600)

it to fight the lawsuits that you're being sued about.

Unknown Speaker (02:21:53.979)

So I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (02:21:56.540)

I think it's all a load of bullshit.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:00.059)

I mean, that's basically where I stand.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:02.260)

I support Alex being kicked off whatever platforms decide to kick him off.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:07.299)

I stop short of calling on anybody to kick him off because I think it's the platform's

Unknown Speaker (02:22:12.020)

choice.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:13.360)

And I think that history will show it's the right decision to make.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:16.899)

I mean, at the point that we're at with the towing the line of ethnic cleansing and the

Unknown Speaker (02:22:22.739)

outright violence he's allowing to be expressed and advocated for towards LGBTQ community

Unknown Speaker (02:22:29.100)

folk, I do think that you have a potential of things going really badly.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:34.459)

I'm not saying it will, but on the chance that it does go really badly, 15, 20 years

Unknown Speaker (02:22:40.579)

from now, it's going to be a really bad look to have not made a decision when you could.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:45.579)

I'm fine with him not being allowed to play any platformers anymore.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:49.000)

Like no more Super Mario.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:50.000)

Oh, I started playing Celeste.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:51.000)

See?

Unknown Speaker (02:22:52.000)

No, he's not allowed to.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:53.000)

He's been deplatformed.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:54.000)

Very fun playing Celeste.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:55.000)

If every time he played the game, the platforms fell, that would be a delight.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:58.860)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:22:59.860)

Oh, I just think, I just think you see here, just people trying to do the best they can

Unknown Speaker (02:23:03.579)

in a tough situation.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:11.139)

That's all it is.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:13.219)

That's all it is.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:14.219)

Alex and Laura Loomer just trying to get by as far as summing it up.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:18.420)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:19.420)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:20.420)

Nailed it.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:21.420)

It really does.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:22.420)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:23.420)

You're not wrong.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:24.420)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:25.420)

Tough times.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:26.420)

I mean, chickens coming home to roost is tough.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:27.700)

And it's nice that that sense of entitlement and a refusal to accept any responsibility

Unknown Speaker (02:23:32.940)

for your actions is intergenerational, you know?

Unknown Speaker (02:23:37.899)

It's not just Millennial Laura Loomer over here.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:40.819)

It's grown adult, what, bowling ball with a...

Unknown Speaker (02:23:45.540)

Thick neck.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:46.540)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:47.540)

He's also doing the same thing.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:49.620)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:50.620)

So is Roger Stone.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:52.079)

It's all across the world.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:53.139)

It's an important piece of the grift.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:55.059)

The grift cannot die.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:56.579)

It must be...

Unknown Speaker (02:23:57.780)

Reborn.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:58.780)

Right.

Unknown Speaker (02:23:59.780)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:00.780)

Something like that.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:01.780)

Anyway, we got a website, knowledgefight.com.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:02.780)

We do.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:03.780)

Are we on social media?

Unknown Speaker (02:24:05.219)

We are.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:06.219)

Have we been banned?

Unknown Speaker (02:24:07.219)

Nope.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:08.219)

Because we are explicit about our condemnation of apps.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:11.100)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:12.100)

Technically, we share InfoWars content.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:13.100)

However, I don't think they would want to share our content.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:16.540)

No, probably not.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:17.540)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:18.540)

We're also on Twitter, at knowledge underscore five.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:20.979)

I'm at Go To Bed Jordan.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:22.579)

We're on Facebook.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:23.579)

That's correct.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:24.579)

We're also on iTunes and all sorts of other places where podcasts can be found.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:28.700)

Indeed.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:29.700)

Wherever they are sold.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:30.700)

Oh, man.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:32.739)

I'm looking over this.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:34.139)

I think Robert Barnes probably hasn't called nobody.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:37.940)

I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:38.940)

He's a lawyer.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:39.940)

If he's going for human events.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:40.940)

I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:41.940)

He was stuck in those books for years, though, because he actually does have a degree and

Unknown Speaker (02:24:45.819)

has passed the bar.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:46.819)

Are we sure that his real name is Barnes?

Unknown Speaker (02:24:49.579)

Sure.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:50.579)

Has he perhaps stolen someone else's identity?

Unknown Speaker (02:24:52.379)

I'm sure not positive about that, but I'm going to go ahead and say that he's never

Unknown Speaker (02:24:56.139)

killed anybody.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:57.139)

Fair.

Unknown Speaker (02:24:58.139)

But his client, Alex Jones, technically probably has.

Unknown Speaker (02:25:01.940)

Andy in Kansas.

Unknown Speaker (02:25:02.940)

You're on the air.

Unknown Speaker (02:25:03.940)

Thanks for holding.

Unknown Speaker (02:25:04.940)

Hello, Alex.

Unknown Speaker (02:25:05.940)

I'm a first time caller.

Unknown Speaker (02:25:06.940)

I'm a huge fan.

Unknown Speaker (02:25:07.940)

I love your work.

Unknown Speaker (02:25:08.940)

I love you.