Transcript/290: April 25-26, 2019

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around,

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drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Oh indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan!

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Jordan.

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What's your first memory?

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I don't know, I don't, I mean this is a little personal, I don't remember a whole lot of my youth.

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Like I don't, I legitimately don't, I have large gaps in my memory from,

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like a lot of people talk about how they remember things from when they were like four or five and

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stuff like that, I have almost nothing.

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Yeah.

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A lot of my earliest memories are things that have been reconstructed from like

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pictures that my parents have, and so probably one of my earliest memories is I had like a baseball

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cake when we lived in Cambridge, Massachusetts, back when I was real young, under the age of like

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six, but I don't remember it, I remember the picture of it.

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Right.

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You know, there's things like that.

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Yeah, I think that's a completely relatable phenomenon.

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Yeah, I don't know, so it'd be tough for me to think about like what the earliest one is,

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and it's also tough for me to think about any memories right now because I am on almost no

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sleep from drunk people in my new apartment complex keeping me up until four or five in

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the morning with their bullshit.

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Well it was the Chicago holiday, it snowed on the 28th.

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Yeah, that was great.

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I celebrated by getting a bath bomb, because I never used a bath bomb before, and I'd like

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to give you my review on that.

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You've never used a bath bomb before?

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No, I like an Epsom salt, I used to like a bubble bath back in the day, but I never explored

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the bomb world.

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Yeah, how do you feel about the bomb?

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Bad review?

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Well, I mean, it's fine, you know, like a nice lavender scent and what have you is still an

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enjoyable bath, but I expected more.

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It's called a bomb.

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It just sort of fizzed a little bit in the tub.

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I really expected some like, I don't know what I expected, fireworks, something, I don't

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know.

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That's how I celebrate there being snow on the couple days before May in Chicago, which

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is awesome.

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Love it.

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Love you, Chicago.

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Yep, but this is a show where we complain about Chicago weather.

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Indeed.

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And I know a lot about Alex Jones.

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And I only know what you tell me.

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Jordan, today we are back in the present.

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Oh boy.

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We're going to be going over April 25th and 26th.

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Not a huge fan of the present right now.

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No, it stinks.

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Alex has just gotten back from going to Bullhorn in Washington, DC, yelling at the Capitol

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building to let him back on Twitter.

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Because he's an adult.

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Absolutely.

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And we will get to how that goes so horribly wrong.

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OK.

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But before we do that, something that is so horribly right.

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That is thanking people who make this show possible, who are supporting the show.

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First of all, Anthony, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Anthony.

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Thank you very much, Anthony.

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Thank you very much, Anthony.

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Vanessa, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Vanessa.

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Thanks, Vanessa.

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Next, Daniel, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Daniel.

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Don't like how imitatable my rhythm is.

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No, I mean, we just have so many Daniels now that I can just hear it and my music of it.

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I've got to become less predictable with my speech patterns.

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Next, someone who took their donation elevated it up a little bit.

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We appreciate it very much.

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So, Ozma, thank you so much.

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You are now a globalist.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Thank you so much, Ozma.

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Thank you, Ozma.

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Next, and finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated level.

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We appreciate it very much.

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So, Metta, M-E-T-T-A, thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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He's a loser.

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Little, little titty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people.

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I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Thank you so much, Metta.

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Thank you very much, Ron Artest.

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Oh, Metta World Peace?

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Yeah, I think it was him, right?

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No, it's not.

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No, it's probably not him.

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Uh, no.

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But if you are out there listening, Ron Artest, please feel free to support the show.

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You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com,

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clicking the button that says support the show.

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You can do that if you're not Ron Artest as well.

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I hope so.

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We would appreciate it.

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So, Jordan, today, like I said, 25th, 26th, what up?

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Crazy stuff.

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This is gonna be, this is gonna be bad.

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So let's at least enjoy a little bit of fun here at the beginning,

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uh, with this out of context drop.

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A big new sale is, we've never done this before,

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a hundred percent off Knockout the Great Sleep Aid.

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That's not a sale.

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What?

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Wait, what?

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A hundred percent off?

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That should give you some sense of where things are at.

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What, do they throw it at you out of a moving car?

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You have to buy a bottle of like, uh, Brain Force or whatever,

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and you get a bottle of Knockout for free.

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But why did he say 100% off?

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Right.

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Isn't that like a buy one, get one free sale?

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Yeah, kind of.

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The framing of it is really bad.

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Yeah.

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It makes, it stinks of desperation.

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A hundred percent off.

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A hundred percent off.

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And I'm presenting this as our new sale.

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Good, good stuff.

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Our new sale is we need to get rid of this shit,

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so we're starting to fire it out of a cannon.

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That should give you a little bit of a sense of what's going on with Alex's business model.

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He talks about how the money stream is not doing great.

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Not doing great, huh?

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No.

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We're taking over the world.

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Of course.

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But the money is not good.

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The money is too tight to mention.

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You know what?

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What you really need to take over the world is a can-do attitude,

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not a multi-million dollar business, Dan.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And so we begin on the 25th,

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and Alex is talking about what happened while he was in DC.

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And he had a little bit of a run-in with a guest of his,

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who he got to have an impromptu, totally, absolutely authentic and normal,

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not set up interview with.

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Oh, that's nice.

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By the way, he wasn't the Soros connected guy,

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even though he knows Soros's son and did some trading with him on Wall Street

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that offered me the Bitcoin to join the dark side.

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But he got the heat for it when I mentioned that.

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But that's a separate time he offered me 150 million in Bitcoin

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back when it was worth a dollar apiece when it first came out.

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He's talking about Max Keiser.

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He ran into Max Keiser at the Trump Hotel.

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He ran into Max Keiser.

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They were both drinking some Stella Artois at the Trump Hotel.

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What was Max Keiser there for, nominally otherwise?

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I don't know.

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I mean, he's a journalist.

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He works for RT.

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I mean, he has a show on RT.

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He's a man about town.

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I think he might have some connections in media and stuff like that.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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I mean, I don't think of Alex's guests,

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he's one that actually probably has more of a career than a lot of these other dicks.

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Yeah, I have a hard time.

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Anytime we talk about that, every time you tell me he's a journalist and he has his own show

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and I'm like, a guy who's tried to sell me on Max coin can't actually have a job.

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That can't be a thing.

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He's got Max coin.

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But if you were super into Bitcoin when it was pretty profitable and you made a

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good amount of money off it, I don't think it would be that weird

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that you might want to fuck around and start your own coin.

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Even if it's not something you think is going to make you your nest egg or whatever,

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it could be fun.

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Okay, that'd be great.

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If Max went on there and he was like, buy some Max coin,

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because it's hilarious, then I'm fine with that.

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I'm not sure that he sells Max coin as hard as we do.

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Okay.

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Or we pretend he does.

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Okay.

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I think we, as a joke, talk about it probably more than he does.

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Okay.

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Still not worth much.

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Okay.

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So over the course of just the time we've been paying attention to him,

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Alex has told a lot of different stories about how the globalists have tried to get him to

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come over to their side.

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He said that Fox News executives have offered him million dollar contracts.

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He said that vaguely described people have offered him tens of million dollars to turn

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on the Republic and all the noble patriots that he represents.

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When he was super fucked up doing that Reddit ask me anything session,

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he also seemed to accidentally admit that none of that actually even happened.

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When he responded to a question about being offered tons of money by the globalists,

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by saying it never happened.

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The new version we're seeing presented today is that a Soros connected person,

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who's definitely not Max Kaiser, offered him millions in Bitcoin

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as the fabled payoff for him to sell out.

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150 million in Bitcoin.

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Something like that.

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Okay.

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There's tons-

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When it was worth a dollar.

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So 150 million Bitcoin.

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Well, that's impossible.

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Right.

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There's tons of problems with this story.

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For one, Bitcoin didn't exist until January 2009.

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And his stories of attempts to buy him out by the globalists, all these stories,

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they predate that, both in terms of when he told the stories,

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and in terms of when the stories he's telling are set.

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Like, so when he would tell the story in the present day,

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these stories were set before January 2009, before Bitcoin even existed.

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Yeah, he was telling post Y2K stories in 1998.

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Mm-hmm.

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It took a year after that point in January 2009, when Bitcoin was introduced,

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for any recorded commercial transactions to happen with Bitcoin,

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when some dude bought two Papa John's pizzas for 10,000 Bitcoins,

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which would be worth approximately $40 million today.

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Crazy.

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Fun.

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Yeah.

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Fun.

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It wouldn't be until July 2010 that Bitcoin would have a value over a penny.

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And it wasn't until April 2011 that Bitcoin broke the one-to-one value ratio with the dollar,

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at which point it began fluctuating wildly.

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Probably because it was a completely unregulated currency

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that was ripe for the picking of really shady scam artists.

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Yeah.

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There's a maximum of 21 million Bitcoins that can ever exist in circulation.

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That's an essential piece of the system and how it works.

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Globalists could have offered Alex all the Bitcoin that could ever exist in late 2010,

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and it would still only be worth $2 million, an amount Alex would be an idiot to accept.

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Even if they offered him every single Bitcoin at the point when Bitcoin is worth a dollar each,

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that would only be $21 million, which Alex, by his own, like,

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how much money I make and what it takes to run this operation,

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that he would run out of that money so fucking fast.

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It's a pittance.

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And if he got all of the Bitcoin in existence, they would instantly become worth nothing.

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Yeah.

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That's how I hate Bitcoin.

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I hate Bitcoin because every time I hear more and more about it,

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like the mining of Bitcoin or the fact that I didn't know that there could only ever be 21

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million Bitcoin.

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That's part of what makes it valuable.

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There's only like $17 million in circulation right now or something like that.

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Right.

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See, now, every time somebody tells me stuff like that, I'm like, is money even real?

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Why not just write things on napkins?

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I don't know what it means.

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But that's one of these people's chief complaints about the idea of, like, fiat currencies.

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You just print more of them.

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Yeah.

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It's not like how gold has a finite amount, theoretically, in the universe.

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Same thing with Bitcoin, there's a finite amount of them, which guarantees that they

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will always have some value.

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Right.

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Or whatever.

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That's fun.

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I guess.

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I don't know what it means.

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I have a sense of what it means.

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Yeah.

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So here's what's actually going on here.

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Alex recently ran into Max Keiser while drinking at the Trump Hotel in D.C., where he mentioned

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that he had offered Alex 10,000 Bitcoins sometime back in the past and that Alex, had he have

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kept them, it would be worth $50 million today.

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And so Alex's response to that is saying, like, I turned down $50 million, something

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like that.

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Alex knows that this makes him look stupid for not taking them.

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So he needs to create a reason for him to have not, or for him to have been skeptical

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about Bitcoin.

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And what better way than to associate the cryptocurrency with an attempted globalist

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payoff?

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Alex is a bimetallic, hard currency guy from way back.

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His show legitimately only exists today because of the investment of Ted Anderson and Midas

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Resources in the late 90s.

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So at no point, while Ted was still Alex's sugar daddy, could he ever have cozied up

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with an alternative currency?

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There's no way that would have flown.

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But just because Alex is in the pocket of a gold and silver salesman, that doesn't mean

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that a lot of the people in his orbit weren't cryptocurrency scammers.

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And over the course of his career, it's been very clear that a lot of Alex's guests have

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tried to entice him into being the front man for a pump and dump type scheme.

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It very much appears that way based on looking over the people who have tried to seduce Alex

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into Bitcoin.

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A number of his guests have tried to get Alex to endorse Bitcoin, which would lead this

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audience to buying up what they can and inflating the price, whereupon these guests who talk

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to Alex into endorsing would most likely sell at that elevated price point and leave Alex's

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audience holding the bag.

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This is something that John McAfee has been particularly criticized about.

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Promoting coins specifically to raise their value, providing pump and dump opportunities

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for people in the know to capitalize on.

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Something that people talk about a lot.

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In Bitcoin forums, you can find people discussing this openly, like this commenter who said

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this on 9 p.m. on Christmas Eve in 2017.

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You need to stay in tune with his tweets, and that is what everyone has been doing for

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a while now.

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And you need to be fast on buying these coins that he'll tweet because you might get stuck

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in the middle of it and if you're too slow of doing it.

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So stay tuned and keep looking at his tweeter account and you'll be part of his pump and

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dump group.

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Of course, the reality is that these things happen really fast, like in a matter of minutes

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oftentimes.

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So what will happen is that a lot of the times the people watching McAfee's Twitter for

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clues will be too slow and then they'll think that they're in on a scheme, but they'll

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be the ones who end up losing money in the scheme when the dump happens before they're

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ready for it.

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The role that McAfee plays in these operations is almost certainly one that it appears that

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Alex has probably been offered to play, but not by the globalists.

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For whatever reason, maybe because he's loved hard currency too much, maybe because Ted

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told him he couldn't, or maybe because he just didn't think Bitcoin would become worth

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a bunch later, Alex has pretty consistently resisted the invitations to enter the cryptocurrency

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world.

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And I don't know if it's to his credit or not, but it's interesting to me.

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It's a little bit weird.

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Why would he think it makes him look stupid to that's like it makes him look stupid now

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to have $50 million he could have on the table when he's begging people for money because

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he's getting sued by everybody.

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Yeah, but I mean, that doesn't look stupid.

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That's just like, oh, I had the chance to buy Apple stock in 1972 and if I had bought

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that it would be worth $10 billion.

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It's like, that's not your fault.

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Nobody, nobody can see the future on that.

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But in the video, although he is a psychic, so that does kind of make him look stupid.

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But also in the video, Max is saying like, if you'd just taken this thing I'd offered

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you for free right now, you'd have $50 million.

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Yeah.

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So the presentation of it is you, because of whatever fucking foolish ideas you had,

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you don't have that money now.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So it's partially the presentation of it.

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I think most likely the issue is Alex's obsession with hard currency and the bimetallic nonsense.

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And I probably think that there's also a good chance that it's because until late 2015,

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Ted Anderson was running latest resources until he got his license taken away.

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And so there's probably a good chance Ted just told him no.

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Like you can't have both.

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Right.

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You can't be both involved in a Bitcoin nonsense.

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Right.

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And my gold and silver nonsense.

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Is there any way to regulate those pump and dump schemes?

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Isn't that supposed to be a thing?

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There is in the regular markets.

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Right.

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But not in Bitcoin because it's the Wild West.

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Right.

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Gotcha.

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Yeah.

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So one of the things that's going to come up quite a bit here on this episode is Alex

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has a lot of thoughts about Charlottesville.

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And one of the reasons is because he's being sued and he's been trying to pretend that

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that lawsuit has just magically gone away, but it has not.

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And recently he's gotten some bad news about it and that the lawsuit is proceeding.

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And so in order to deal with that, he's going to spend a decent amount of time trying to

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reclaim the narrative.

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And part of that is talking about how Millie Weaver was there.

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She's a great reporter and she knows everything.

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Oh, no.

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Millie Weaver is going to join us as well.

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She was in Charlottesville and she saw the left with the police collide, the reporters

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and the white nationalists and the Democrats posing as white nationalists into each other

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to cause the conflagration that got the woman killed.

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So that's sort of a broad strokes version of the narrative Alex will be selling.

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We'll get into it as he gets into it later, but that's just sort of a little bit of a

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here that's coming up.

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Is it smart to talk about a lawsuit on your radio show?

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It is if you're talking about a fake version of it.

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Is it smart to talk about two lawsuits on your radio show?

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It's fine to talk about a fictional like straw man version of the lawsuit.

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Yeah.

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If you're not actually talking, it's very clear what his strategy is.

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Right, right, right.

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What he's doing here.

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Obfuscate.

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So like we said, Alex was in DC.

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He went to Bullhorn at the White House to get himself back on Twitter while he was there,

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stayed at the Trump hotel, hung out, ran into Max Keiser.

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Who would have guessed?

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They had some drinks, but the thing that's crazy is that while Alex was bullhorning the

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White House, Trump was having a meeting with Jack from Twitter.

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Now, in this clip, Alex says that he didn't know that that was going to happen, and it

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was just coincidence.

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And I honestly don't know what I think.

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By the way, that was total providence, synchronicity, serendipity, whatever the proper

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term is that I land in DC on Tuesday, I go directly from the airport to the White House.

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It was a private meeting.

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It wasn't announced until it was ongoing that the head of Twitter would be in there in a

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meeting being chastised for censorship.

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And then sure enough, right, while I'm bullhorning, there's a whole bunch of news

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out there that actually picked up what I was saying.

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That's how the Fox host was able to repeat what I had just said.

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And there's more audio of that.

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The poor leftists out there had their own bullhorns, two of them screaming at me, trying

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to drown me out, but they don't know how to use them.

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They don't know how to use them.

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They always aim them.

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Maybe I shouldn't tell them how to use a bullhorn properly.

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They always aim them at the crowd as if they're little commies and they want to convince

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them instead of really yelling through one at full power and then bouncing it off buildings.

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But that's what we were doing.

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And it was extremely successful.

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And I'm told that the president even remarked on it later, because despite the bulletproof

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clash, I was going right into the room where the meeting was actually taking place now.

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So that clip, the two things that I got are like, one, I legitimately don't know if I

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believe that he didn't know that Dorsey was going to have a meeting with Trump or if he

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did, I have no idea.

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Either is weird.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's got to be one or the other.

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I don't know.

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Both are weird.

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Yeah.

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Did anybody know that he was going to meet with Jack?

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It wasn't on his official schedule.

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Right.

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Tell you that.

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OK, so how would he have known?

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I mean, there was did Trump even know?

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I don't think Trump knew.

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I don't know.

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I don't think it's super weird and I don't know where to land on it.

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So I'll just say like, whatever.

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But then the rest of that clip really made me wish like you ever get on YouTube and see

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those like Gordon Ramsay or Daniel Negreanu commercials for like masterclass?

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Yeah.

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Gordon Ramsay teaches you to cook.

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Yeah.

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Daniel Negreanu teaches you how to play poker.

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Alex Jones teaches you how to yell through a bullhorn.

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Now what you got to do is you got to yell through it.

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So it bounces off buildings.

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I was listening to that the whole time going like, wait, are you bragging about bullhorn

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usage?

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Well, is that a thing?

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I didn't know you could brag about that.

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To be fair, it's one of the few things that I think he would be an internationally recognized

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expert on.

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Yeah, that is true.

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He is a bullhorn guy from the jump.

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From way back.

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Way back.

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Tyranny crushers one through eight are all in the hall of fame.

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All in the hall of fame.

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So as much as I don't believe he knows how to read or analyze context or any of that

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stuff, I do believe that he could teach you a goddamn thing or two about how to bullhorn.

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Yeah.

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Even you, a championship.

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Oh, no, no, no, no.

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100 percent.

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Yeah.

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I recognize my limitations.

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That's the measure of a wise man yelling at him or something like that.

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According to Marcus Aurelius.

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You should be bouncing off buildings.

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I should be bouncing off buildings.

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That's an untapped market for yells.

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You bet it is.

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You bet it is.

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So in this next clip, Alex tries to reinvigorate a narrative that he's, you know, he's used

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a lot and it's sort of gone by the wayside a little bit lately, but he wants to resurrect

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it.

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And that is the Trump was spied on narrative.

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Oh, yeah, that was nice to hear.

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Part of that's because Trump's bringing it up and being like, hey, everyone's spied on

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me.

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Why not?

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And then William Barr is also being like, hey, Trump got spied on because he's an ass.

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And so Alex was hanging out with the One American News Network, which Jack Posobick works for.

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And I thought you I thought you were being vague.

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There's actually a news network called One American News Network.

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You bet there is.

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Is that like a pizza place?

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Some guys sell pizza.

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Might as well be.

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So he's on there and he had an interview with Jack Posobick and they played some sort of

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prepackaged piece.

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And it had the evidence that Alex had forgotten about Trump being spied on.

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And I was really excited to hear this because, like, I want to know what you're talking about.

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And then I got less excited.

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So they are caught.

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And this is what I've obsessed on is these key facts right now.

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Here it is.

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In the wake of the Mueller probe, details continue to emerge about how the Obama administration

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spied on the Trump campaign ahead of the 2016 elections.

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One America's Neil W. McCabe spoke to a former CIA analyst.

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Larry Johnson was an analyst for both the CIA and the State Department.

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He told One American News that now that the Mueller probe is closed, it is time for the

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American people to learn the truth about how the British government helped the Obama administration

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dodge the Fourth Amendment by spying on the 2016 Trump campaign for them.

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Boo.

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It's Larry Johnson.

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It's so funny to me that Alex constantly yells about how no one has a memory except him and

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how the globalists exploit that to trick you, because if Alex had any memory or thought

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his audience did, he would never try to have another swing at making Larry C. Johnson seem

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like a legitimate source on anything.

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In case you forgot, Larry C. Johnson is probably most memorable for being the guy who tried

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to spread the hoax during the 2008 presidential campaign that there was a tape of Michelle

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Obama railing on Whitey while appearing on a panel with Louis Farrakhan at Jeremiah Wright's

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Trinity Church.

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He pushed the story, although he admitted that he'd never seen the tape, just talked

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to mysterious unnamed people who had.

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The Obama campaign said, quote, no such tape exists, pointing out that Michelle had never

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spoken at Trinity and had never used that word.

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When the tape never materialized, Johnson blamed the McCain campaign, claiming that

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someone had told him that McCain's people requested they not release the tape, which

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is bullshit.

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Interestingly, Larry C. Johnson was the main source for a ton of stories that were circulating

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about the quote-unquote Whitey tape.

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Rush Limbaugh used Larry as an excuse to cover the fake story, sensationally.

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But what I find more interesting is that Roger fucking Stone appeared on Geraldo's Fox News

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show to comment on it.

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Quote, there's a buzz, which I believe now to be credible, that some indelible record

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exists of public remarks that Michelle Obama allegedly made, which are outrageous at best,

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but could be termed racist, including some reference to white people as Whiteys, allegedly.

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Roger was using Larry C. Johnson's information as the basis for his insinuations.

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And then Larry's own blog, No Quarter, posted Roger's Fox News interview, presenting it

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as evidence that the story was legitimate.

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Looking back through time, what you see, and it's fascinating, is the same players playing

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the same games.

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It's weird.

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I hate them.

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I hate it.

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I hate it.

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I hate current America.

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Do you realize?

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It's very weird.

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And back then, back then, here's a big story.

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Michelle Obama called somebody a honky.

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That's it.

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That was their big news.

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That was a news cycle.

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And it wasn't true.

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It was over and over in the news cycle.

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Everybody's commenting on that.

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The right wing was salivating over it.

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There's a tape of Trump saying the N-word.

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Who are you, Tom Arnold?

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What are we doing?

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How is it?

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Are you trusting Tom Arnold on this?

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Because I would advise you to be careful about Tom Arnold.

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There's just a little difference of degree.

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Oh, no, I was just...

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If we are going hoax to hoax, which one is worse?

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I don't know.

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I'm mad if...

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I'm actually angrier if Michelle Obama didn't say that Whitey isn't drunk.

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I know, we've been over this.

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Yeah.

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Perhaps more seriously and more relevant to this episode of Alex's show,

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Larry C. Johnson was the source for the claim that the British intelligence group

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GCHQ was spying on the Trump campaign at Obama's request.

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The main outlet to pick up the story and run with it was Andrew Napolitano

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on his show on Fox News.

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This claim was so unfounded, so not backed up by actual information, and so inflammatory

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that it literally almost caused an international incident when Trump repeated the claims.

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It legitimately threatened our international intelligence sharing relationship

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with some of our longest held and closest allies, formed in the aftermath of World War II

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in hopes of averting a World War III.

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In the fallout, Fox News released statements condemning the coverage

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and took Napolitano off the air for an indefinite vacation,

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though he would return to air about a week later.

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Here are some important things to remember about Larry C. Johnson.

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One, he retired from intelligence work in 1993.

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Fourteen years before the first iPhone came out.

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Eight years before the release of the fucking Nintendo GameCube.

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People born five years after he retired can legally buy booze now.

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So, that should give you some sense of when he was in the game.

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Two, people who knew him when he was in intelligence do not think highly of him.

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There are very frequent criticisms of him that he made a habit of downplaying the threat

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of terrorism in the pre-9-11 days.

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Emmy award-winning investigative journalist Peter Lantz, who worked with Larry, had this to say of him.

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Quote,

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"...Larry to me is one of the great empty suits. He's emblematic of what goes wrong in the agency,

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emblematic of the attitude that let 9-11 happen."

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And it's not like there isn't evidence to back this up.

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Allow me to read to you from a New York Times op-ed piece

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that Larry C. Johnson wrote on July 10, 2001.

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Oh, boy.

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A mere 63 days before 9-11.

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Oh, no.

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Quote,

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Judging from news reports and the portrayal of villains in our popular entertainment,

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Americans are bedeviled by fantasies about terrorism.

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They seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest threat to the United States,

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and that it is becoming more widespread and lethal.

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They are likely to think that the United States is the most popular target of terrorists,

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and they almost certainly have the impression that the extremist Islamic

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groups cause most terrorism.

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None of these beliefs are based in fact.

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Whoops.

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You're not, you're, okay, you know what, it's easy to cherry pick that,

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but you didn't read the op-ed in the New York Times he wrote 63 days after 9-11,

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where he said, whoops, my bad guys, I missed the ball on this one, I'm actually stupid.

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I think there's some salient points that he's making in terms of not allowing yourself to

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be caught up in sensationalism, but he's not making those points.

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No, I know.

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Hidden within that is the reality that he's being stupid about it,

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but it has that veneer of like, no, you're right, you're right, we shouldn't be,

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we shouldn't be over, so afraid that we're paralyzed in certain senses.

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There's a certain way of putting it, but also you're, you're, you fucked up.

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You know, like they, the quote, they seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest

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threat to the United States.

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I mean, you could say, you could say that, yeah, maybe it isn't the biggest threat,

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but 63 days after this 9-11 happened.

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Yeah, that's not great.

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So posting an op-ed where you're trying to downplay the threat of terrorism a couple

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months before 9-11 is a bad look.

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It's a real bad look.

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Real bad look.

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If you are presenting yourself as a good intelligence analyst.

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It's a real bad look.

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Three, Larry C. Johnson is a member of the veteran intelligence professionals for Sanity,

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along with William Binney.

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You'll likely be unsurprised to learn that he's a member of the faction of the organization

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who released the very sloppy memo that asserted to prove that the breach of the DNC couldn't

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have been a hack, which was used as the cornerstone of the Seth Rich conspiracy theories.

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So Larry C. Johnson had his fucking fingers on that one too.

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How did the stupid become so successful?

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I mean, just lying.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Shouldn't there be...

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You need the pretense and the veneer of some sort of credibility.

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So working in intelligence for a couple years back in 93.

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Yeah.

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If you just have that, then you could just state with confidence all sorts of crazy bullshit.

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Yeah.

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And people just be like, oh yeah.

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As long as it aligns with what other people need somebody to say crazily, then yeah.

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God damn it.

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That's a good racket.

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It is.

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It's so easy.

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All this is to say that Larry C. Johnson is a fucking idiot with a really long track record

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of being completely wrong about everything.

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The last time he was even close to doing intelligence work,

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the Unabomber was in the middle of his bombing campaign.

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Tonya Harding was a year away from clubbing Nancy Kerrigan

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and Kurt Cobain, Tupac, and Biggie were all still alive.

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Your reference point...

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It's a long time ago.

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I know, but the reference point out of blue is Tonya Harding?

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Yeah.

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It's a long time ago.

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I know, but that's just okay.

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There's literally no reason to ever trust something he's reported without evidence.

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If he provides evidence of something, then we could talk.

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But just his things that he's claiming from secret sources and stuff like that,

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you cannot trust anything he says.

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And you can see the danger that can come from it.

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His bullshit being repeated by Napolitano found its way to Trump's ear.

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And because it satisfied Trump's ego, he believed it and repeated it,

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which had the potential to realign geopolitical alliances.

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Ultimately, Larry's shit is weak, and it's definitely fun to laugh at him.

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But in the age we now live in, someone like him could literally start a world war.

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So it's important to look at him as not just a joke.

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Yeah.

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These are very serious things that are being played around with.

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And Alex is reigniting this story based on Larry C. Johnson

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being used as a source by One American News.

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That's very bad.

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This is very, this is stuff we've already dealt with, you know, in the last few years.

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Yeah.

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It's not great to see how they just keep throwing the same bullshit.

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That was actually one of the more comforting things that the Mueller report gave us,

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is the realization that just like that, Trump just tweeting out some obviously

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bullshit information theoretically could have ruined a relationship we have with another country, right?

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But as you see over and over and over again in the Mueller report,

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so many times Trump does something that, if you took it literally,

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would be like the end of the world as we know it.

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And everybody around him is just like, we're not doing that one.

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That one's just not going to happen.

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It seems like many other people around the world may also have adopted that.

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So many heads of state you know, you know, are like, we're not going to listen to that guy.

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It's really not good.

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It's really bad, but at least everybody in the world has this sense of like,

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okay, we know what he's doing, we know what he's trying to do,

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and let's all just not let everybody die?

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It makes it a lot funnier when Alex complains about Obama deteriorating our soft power.

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Yeah, no kidding.

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Makes it a real comedy.

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The rest of the world doesn't believe what the president says.

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That's usually not a good sign.

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Yeah, not good.

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So Alex is bringing back up this Trump was spied on narrative.

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And his evidence there is the One American News Network clip that was played

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that interviewed Larry C. Johnson.

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Right.

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So bad.

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Noted intelligence official Larry C. Johnson.

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From again, back when Kurt Cobain was alive.

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Grunge was cool.

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Grunge analyst.

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Right.

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The World Trade Center first bombing had just happened.

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Right, right, right, right.

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What else do we got?

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Uh, the Dream Team had just won the gold medal.

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Wasn't that 92?

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Wasn't that 92?

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I think it was.

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Yeah, that was 92.

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I can't remember.

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So anyway, that's one piece of evidence Alex has, this Larry C. Johnson stuff.

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But thankfully, because I mean, if that was it, we could just be like,

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but thankfully Alex has other information and he gets into it in this next clip.

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We're going to play that Samantha Powers clip one more time,

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but there she is heading up national security point of order.

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He never plays a Samantha Powers clip for Obama.

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And she's openly on TV admitting that they were illegally surveilling the president.

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And then later saying that they didn't do that.

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They can't even cover their butts anymore.

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They're unable to do it.

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And then she sends herself an email once Trump actually gets in.

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She can't believe they were unable to stop him saying,

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Oh, we better follow all the laws on surveillance.

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When she'd been quarterbacking it along with others the whole time.

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That's what our sources told us at the time.

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It's all turned out to be true.

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InfoWars.com two years from now news today.

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And that's why the globalists want us shut off the air.

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That's why they lie about us.

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That's why they demonize us.

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That's why they sue us.

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So they do all this because they understand that we will first break the news

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and make it safe for others to cover it.

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So that's an interesting way to phrase normalizing awful content.

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That's not good.

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No.

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So I don't really care about any of that stuff because if he's not going to come with it,

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I'm not either.

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I really only want that to sit here as the globalist Tate Alex,

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because he's so far ahead of everybody and he's right about everything.

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I told you that he doesn't play that Samantha Powers clip.

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And I stand by that assertion.

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Remember that as this plays.

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Okay.

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This is going to be really, really big and really, really important.

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But here is Powers on CNN or MSNBC one more time for you admitting it all.

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I had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior people who left.

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So it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy that the Trump folks,

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if they found out how we knew what we knew about their, the staff,

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the Trump staff dealing with Russians, that they would try to compromise those sources and methods.

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We know that specifically from

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and again, to be clear, that's, that's, that's Evelyn Farkas talking about Samantha Powers.

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Yeah, there it is.

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That's the specific power statement coming up as well.

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Whoops.

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It took me like, it took me like five seconds.

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And I was like, this isn't her.

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Nope.

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Alex tries to save it at the end.

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Be like, I, that was about Evelyn Farkas was talking about her.

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Wasn't her.

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This clip, not surprisingly, is a big old zero.

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And it's something that conspiracy sites have tried to push periodically since early 2017.

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And each time it fails to get any traction because it's kind of bullshit.

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This is a clip of Evelyn Farkas, Obama's former deputy assistant secretary of defense

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for Russia and Ukraine in an interview on MSNBC.

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Ms. Farkas is not discussing spying on Trump and his campaign.

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The need to preserve that intelligence.

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She's very specifically talking about how there were a lot of people at the time who

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were concerned that intelligence that had been gathered about Russia and their adventures

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into election meddling might end up missing once Trump's people got into office.

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And that is what needed to be specifically preserved.

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This was specifically stated to be the basis, to be based on the fact that, quote,

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American intelligence agencies had intercepted communications of Russian officials,

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some of them within the Kremlin, discussing contacts with Trump associates.

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That is why there was a concern about the sources and methods of collecting information.

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At that point, it wasn't clear if you were handing over

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intelligence data to the people who the intelligence was about.

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This would compromise literally all of the country's intelligence

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capability about Russia and related issues.

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Her interview on MSNBC was specifically to discuss a story in The New York Times that

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had come out a few days prior with the headline, quote,

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Obama officials race to preserve Russian trail.

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So it's not like this wasn't already a larger conversation that was being had in the media.

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Nothing Farkas is saying is even close to a bombshell,

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the way Alex is trying to present this stuff.

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The New York Times article this interview is about specifically says, quote,

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former senior Obama administration officials said that none of the efforts were directed by Mr.

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Obama.

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So Alex saying the opposite of that seems untethered to any actual real reporting

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to the sources that he's pointing towards.

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There's one more reason to discount pretty much everything about this interview being

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an accidental admission of a grand conspiracy.

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And that is that Evelyn Farkas resigned from her deputy assistant secretary position in

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September 2015, at least four months before the Republican National Convention and the

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naming of Trump as the official candidate.

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She wasn't even in any official capacity during the 2016 general election.

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She's just expressing something that she as someone who had experience in the department

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of visa v Russia in Ukraine was saying, OK, be careful, guys.

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Right.

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That's it.

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Gotcha.

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There's nothing here.

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OK, so it's so he's making he's making nothing sound like something.

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And then insisting that he's playing a clip of Samantha Powers and then later on,

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oh, I mean, it was Evelyn Farkas.

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Yeah, they're all accidentally admitting that they did all the things that I knew that they

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did and I said that they did before.

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And tomorrow's news today, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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Blah, blah, blah, blah. Buy my shit. 100 percent off knockout.

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Right, right, right, right.

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Isn't it?

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I don't.

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So here's the thing about the whole spying issue for for me, if they if our intelligence

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analysts were keeping an eye on Russia's election meddling.

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Then you claim that they were spying on you, right?

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And they were watching over here when you came into the picture, not we were watching

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you and then Russia showed up.

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Right.

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It's the it's a little bit like if if you got caught up in the spying, that wasn't they

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didn't start with you.

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Right.

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You're if you say that you got spied on, you're basically admitting that we were doing that.

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Do you see what I'm saying?

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Yeah.

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You're you're you're insinuating that they started looking at you.

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Right.

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When in reality, you're just hiding the fact that you came into the picture.

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Right.

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You know, you could have accidentally or intentionally come into the the circle of the

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people that were being looked at and were being surveilled.

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Yeah, that's my understanding of everything.

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And from everything that Evelyn Farkas is saying that traces with that to the tracks

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entirely.

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So anyway, in this next clip, Alex talks about being in D.C.

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. And he's got some insider information, Jordan.

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He has sources.

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OK, now are they Max Keiser?

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One of them might be.

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I don't fucking know.

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He's one of the people that we can definitively say Alex talked to in D.C..

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OK, this is crazy to me.

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And this is something that Alex keeps doing throughout these two episodes, the 25th and

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26th.

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Well, here's the good news.

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Just two of these people I talked to said, go ahead, talk about it on record.

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And then a third one.

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Said, well, you can go ahead, but then said, maybe not.

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Just don't say my name.

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So I'm not going to say anybody's name.

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What?

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Did he just retell the Goldilocks and the three bears story?

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One of them said it's on the record.

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Right.

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One of them said it's on the record, but don't use my name.

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And the other one said it's off the record.

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So it's all off the record.

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I had two people who said we don't give a fuck.

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Say whatever you want.

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Put our names on blast.

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I'm not going to do it.

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What?

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Even though when he does have a real intelligence source, he's always just like, all right,

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well, it was Donald Trump Jr..

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I wasn't supposed to say that.

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Right.

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I mean, that's really suspicious.

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I talked to three people, two said I could say their names.

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So I'm not going to say shit.

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I'm no snitch.

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What?

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Alex, get it together.

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What are you doing?

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So in this next clip, he didn't need to say any of that.

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And it just said, I have three sources.

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And the next clip we're about to hear here, he kind of implies who they are.

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And I thought about trying to figure out who he was trying to suggest, but I just like,

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I don't give a shit that none of this is real.

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I talked to three different people.

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One person is a close friend of the president and talk to him routinely.

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I'll leave it at that.

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Others write briefings for him.

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So I immediately thought, well, I thought Roger Stone or Jerome Corsi.

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When I heard the first one is a friend of Trump's and that made me think like, well,

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Corsi just sued Alex.

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So that's probably not.

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And then Roger, I don't know where he is in the game anymore.

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So I don't know.

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It doesn't, it could be, it could be that he's a friend of the president.

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It could be, it could be Max Keiser, quite frankly.

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I talked to a friend of Trump's.

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Yeah, that could be anybody.

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That's a jack off motion.

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Yeah.

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And then someone who writes briefs for Trump.

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I think he's trying to imply it's Stephen Miller.

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No, you misheard him.

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Somebody who makes briefs for Trump.

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It's his tailor.

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Underpants.

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Yeah, it's his tailor.

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I think it's, I think he's trying to imply that it's Stephen Miller based on a clip that

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he plays later.

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But I don't think that's true.

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I don't think Stephen Miller talked to Alex.

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I don't think Stephen Miller.

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Write briefings for him and advise him specifically on the memo that he had dealing with.

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And I was authorized to say this because they don't care if the president knows who it is

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because the president doesn't want this to be a secret.

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The memo that the president Trump had when he was, the briefing he got before he interviewed

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Jack Dorsey of Twitter.

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And then the other person was one of the falsely accused Russiagate individuals who was not

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involved, but it worked in Eastern Europe for the CIA and the Clintons knew that he'd

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worked for them and he was brought back in.

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He's been on the show before and he met with the president on Tuesday in the Oval Office

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and the president said, I'm going after him.

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Damn the torpedoes.

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If you've seen what Hillary Clinton's saying, I'm sick of these crooks.

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Trump's got all the intel now.

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He actually knows how they've sold us out.

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He's just got like total proof that they're globalist criminals that hate the country.

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And I'm giving some specifics here for the deep state that's corrupt to realize how defeated

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you are.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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I don't know if those are specifics, Alex.

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I think those are vagaries.

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Is Alex talking to himself now trying to like build himself up?

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It's like it does feel that way because he's given himself like a pep talk.

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He's like, I know all this information because I and three people confirmed it.

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And so I'm telling me over and over and over again that this lie is true.

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Mm hmm.

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And did you get like the sense of what the big news is that these three people told him?

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Yeah.

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That Trump is going to lock her up.

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Yeah.

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He's going to lock her up.

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I mean, it's election season is heating up.

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Of course, you've got to bring this narrative back.

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It worked so well last time.

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Yeah.

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Wasn't that his quote?

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Like Trump's quote at one of those rallies that like lock her up.

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It worked real well.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, of course.

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So of course it's a lock her up season.

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Do you think they're going to try again?

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I want to see them.

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I want to see them try the locker up again.

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No, I mean, they're going to try it in terms of the chant.

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And they like saying we're going to do something.

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Right, right, right, right.

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But I don't think there's any chance that they go that route.

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You know what?

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I might say that, you know, that would be that would be fun.

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To quote Alex, if they do, Katie Barr the door, because that's trouble.

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That's when we know that like, oh, we have crossed Rubicon.

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Oh, this is this is much worse than it was.

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I just I just can't help but get the thought out of my mind.

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How absurd and laughable it would be if one of Trump's major

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reelection platforms was we're finally going to put Hillary in prison.

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Of course.

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Just like I think I think you'll do that trying to get a third term, too.

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Quite frankly, third, fourth, fifth.

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Yeah, yeah, of course.

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Locker up.

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It's an evergreen thing.

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It is.

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It is.

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Some people are always going to want to put Hillary in jail.

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That's just a true thing.

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And these three people.

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Yes.

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Have told Alex that we're going to do it.

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It's going to be great.

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Gonna do it.

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Trump is going to make his move.

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Now, again, Alex has to reiterate that he has permission to say who these people are,

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but he's not going to.

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And then his his language gets pretty interesting.

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I was told by two of the three.

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I can go ahead and tell you all this, but I decided not to just to leave it out of it,

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but just to give the little breadcrumbs.

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Breadcrumbs is a very specific QAnon language.

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The idea of the little clues that Q leaves.

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Yeah, those are breadcrumbs.

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Oh, no.

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Alex, using that terminology, I don't think is a coincidence.

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And the I don't think that's a lock them up.

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Oh, shit.

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Because that's also a huge part of the QAnon is that he's going to lock up all kinds of

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people and shit like that, right?

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Yeah.

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I mean, that is a huge part of QAnon, but that's also a lot.

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Yeah.

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Everybody's kind of fine with that.

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Pretty much anyone who's close to supporting Trump is also kind of into the idea of jailing

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political enemies.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Yeah.

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At least mostly.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So all these people are saying that Trump is about to lock people up and deep states

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going down and Alex is leaving breadcrumbs of clues about who these people are.

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One of them's Trump's friend, one of someone was caught up in the Russia investigation

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unfairly.

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That could be fucking anybody, according to Alex.

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So here's the here's the real thing, though.

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Alex even knows that this isn't going to happen.

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And so he couches his reporting on it very carefully.

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And as listeners, you already know all these facts.

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You already know this is researchers.

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But now it's coming to a head.

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And I'm telling you, Trump changes his mind sometimes.

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But right now, he fully intends to damn the torpedoes, go straight at them.

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And the fact that Hillary shot her mouth off and other things just means that he's probably

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not going to turn back now.

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So that means we need to pray for the president.

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And we need to also understand they're going to really try to assassinate him now or they're

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going to try some type of big false flag.

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I hope they're not going to take this lying down.

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So you hear in there, I mean, there's the sensational end to his comments.

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But the big point is in being like now the president changes his mind a lot.

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So, you know, this might not happen.

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But right now he intends to.

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Yeah, I heard that.

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I heard that just being like, what?

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Fuck off.

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Yeah.

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So when it doesn't happen after he, you know, uses this as a rallying cry to get the dumb

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dumbs on board for this election cycle, then once it doesn't happen, Alex will be like,

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oh, he changes his mind.

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And, you know, we we at the time we were right.

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Of course.

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That's when he I it never ceases to amaze me whenever I stop and actually comprehend

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what's going on right now.

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One political party is centered around a lunatic who legitimately wants to lock up his political

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opponents and put them in jail or possibly even scarier.

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Yeah.

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Wants to create a grassroots movement based on the perception that he wants to lock up

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his political.

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Exactly.

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Right.

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And the other scarier if it's fake.

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The other party, knowing full well that that very leader has committed crimes that are

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worthy of jail time, is constantly saying, well, we shouldn't even get rid of him as

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president for political reasons.

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It's weird.

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Isn't that weird?

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I know a lot of times.

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Isn't that hard to like?

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It's like it's too glaring.

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I try and look away from it.

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It's so bright.

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And it also makes you really feel despondent.

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Yeah.

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And that's an easy feeling to have.

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Yeah.

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Especially as we enter now where I think I warned you earlier, maybe even before the

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episode, that, you know, things are going to be bad.

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And here's where it starts getting real bad.

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Oh, no.

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And actually, you know, as bad as this next clip is, there's a part of me that actually

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is glad that Alex is this overt because it's so overt.

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Are we getting into civil war territory?

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No, not really.

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That's good, but maybe worse.

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OK, well, that's bad.

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Because he's so overt, it leaves very little room for him to be able to defend himself.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And this next clip here from the 25th is where it's just like this is inexcusable.

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You're damn right I'm Islamophobic.

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Muslims have invaded the whole world.

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They always hit 10 percent and start bombing.

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It's their orders from Mohammed.

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What burning bombings, stabbing, raping, kidnapping when they hit the magic number,

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10 percent.

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And Sri Lanka is now, according to the latest census, a year ago at nine point six.

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And Muslims breed faster than anybody else on earth.

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Their religion average of over five kids.

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So, you know, the new census when it comes out will show about 10 and a half percent.

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And right when they pass the 10 percent bombings and then they push you out of the enclaves.

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They always target a smaller minority than them.

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They bomb that group.

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The Christians are only seven percent.

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So they'll drive them out of the country, out of their neighborhoods, and then they'll

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move on to the next group.

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So that's how the operation works.

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It's a program.

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So, like I said, pretty overt.

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That clip that we just heard there, Jordan, that is a rationalization for ethnic cleansing.

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Pure and simple.

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Alex isn't talking about radical terrorists who happen to be Muslims.

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Alex is talking about demographic rates as a whole.

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He's talking about every single Muslim in every country as being part of a growing problem.

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Yeah.

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Even if they are not terrorists or affiliated with the terrorist groups, simply by virtue

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of existing within that block, they are part of the 10 percent.

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Yeah.

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Consider the implications of what he's saying.

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He's saying that once Muslims make up 10 percent of a country's population, they're

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commanded by Mohammed to start bombing people.

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If you believe that, then the solution to the problem is to keep Muslim populations

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below 10 percent of any geographical region.

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But how are you going to do that?

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I guess one option would be forced deportations to displace people and make sure there's

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never enough of them somewhere to scare you.

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Of course, the U.S. did this to approximately 1.3 million Mexican Americans in 1954 with

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a very racistly named Operation Wetback.

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The consequences of that action have been unfathomable, with American citizens of Mexican

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heritage being forcefully displaced into unfamiliar parts of Mexico where they knew no one.

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Generational wealth for countless families was completely disrupted, as were the families

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themselves.

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This is a deep stain in our country's history, and the 65 years since have shown that mass

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deportation does not work, and the effect it has on people and communities is equivalent

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to terror.

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So if history shows us that these forced deportations based on religion or ethnicity kind of amount

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to ethnic cleansing, crimes against humanity, then you'd have to make sure that the Muslim

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population of an area never reaches 10%, so you never have to deal with, you know, getting

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it down below.

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But legitimately, how would you ever go about doing that without some kind of eugenics?

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You'd need to enact ethnic or religiously-based breeding limitations, which seems like something

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Alex would be super against given that he spent most of his career yelling about the

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horrors of China's one-child policy.

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This system would necessarily imply the need to set up a hierarchical system where U.S.

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citizens who were Muslims had human rights only so far as the non-Muslim government officials

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allowed them to.

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What Alex would be advocating for is a totalitarian nightmare that far exceeds any of his dumbass

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FEMA camp fantasies and would require a ridiculously powerful centralized government in order to

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be put in place.

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Ultimately, if the problem you think exists in the world is that there's too many Muslims

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and once there's a certain number of them they kill everyone, then you are soft-pitching

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genocide.

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This 10% number he's rattling on about is arbitrary.

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It's just the focus of his bigotry.

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But if you as a listener accept the premise that 10% is this magic number where trouble

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starts, how easy is it going to be for Alex to turn around and say, whoops, I had it wrong,

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that number's actually 7%?

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Once you accept the logic of any number, that number can change to suit a propagandist's

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whim.

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And no percentage is ever going to be low enough for someone like Alex to say, all right,

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that's a good number of Muslims.

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This is really fucked up.

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Yep.

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I can't say enough.

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This is the introductory step towards rhetoric justifying and advocating for ethnic cleansing.

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And this is the sort of language that really, really gets people hurt.

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Or it has the potential to.

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Yeah, I mean, we're well past potential.

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So when we hear Alex say things like that, one of the things that, I mean, it's just

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awful, obviously awful, awful, and it should make it kind of less surprising that he follows

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it up by saying things like this.

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But remember what I said over and over again when they were having calls to prayer, not

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just here, but all over the world after the tragic New Zealand attack that killed 49 people.

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And we were hearing that Christianity and white people are inherently evil.

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The greatest terrorist did it live stream part of it, which we're obviously not showing

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because of who these people were.

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He did it because of the God they worshiped and because of the threat he seemed to think

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they posed to the white race and that Islam is peaceful.

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And I'm like, thousands of churches blown up a year, hundreds blown up a year in the

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Middle East, firebombed 800 plus bombed or burned down in France.

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Bombed or burned down in France, and there's almost no coverage of it.

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Alex is basically defending and justifying the motivations of the Christchurch shooter.

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Yep.

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I think what I would like, because we know with Alex, we know what his goal is.

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We know what the goal is basically to make a lot of money.

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And that's a big part of it.

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And be just in general a piece of shit along the way.

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But for his listeners and that kind of thing, what are their goals?

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What do they think that they're working towards?

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What do they think that they're achieving?

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And do they know, and if they do know what that is, are they trying to actually do that

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or are they just trying to be cruel and awful?

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I think it's what you see over and over again with all of these sorts of situations where

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the people on the ground probably just want to live a good life.

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Yeah.

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They want to live a stable life where their values are accepted and validated.

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They can live in a community where they feel comfortable.

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They can live reasonably healthy lives and be employed in some capacity that they feel

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gratified by.

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But there are people like Alex and there are people, you know, propagandists of all variety

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that create scapegoats and it's a very compelling and very powerful thing to exploit in somebody.

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Yeah.

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And so people like Alex, people like, I mean, historically there have been hundreds of him.

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Yeah.

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And what they do is they create this perception that X, Y, or Z group is the reason why you

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can't enjoy your life the way that you feel like you should, whether or not there's any

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there's any truth to it, you know, there's obviously very real reasons why people aren't

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able to live as comfortably and happily as they would like.

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But distracting from that by scapegoating some population is way easier.

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So you get people to jump on board with your scapegoat and demonizing that scapegoat as

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if, if we can just deal with that issue, we'll have what we want.

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We will have that thing that we want.

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So I think that's the motivation of a lot of people who buy into this stuff.

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Yeah.

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Whether or not they're conscious of it or not, it very quickly transmutes into like outright

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hate.

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Yeah.

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It changes fast, I think.

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Yeah.

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And I was thinking about this along the way, like I was thinking about the concept of the

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brain virus that we've talked about over and over and over again, how this is an actual

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disease.

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It's like you were saying, most of these people really just want a normal, good, you know,

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good life.

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I would say most people, there's outliers who are just outright violent and psychos.

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Well, yeah, they're on 8chan's poll message board.

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And in the woods, there's some in the woods and there's some in boardrooms.

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Yeah, there's absolutely, well, yeah, absolutely true.

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It's not unique to one place, but I take your point and it's fair.

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And like, how do we treat regular, like trying to inoculate people because we don't, we

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don't know what the cure is, but maybe we could try and inoculate people in their youth.

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But I think we can't even get people to take vaccines for actual diseases.

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How do you, how could we ever convince enough people to train them on finding and discovering

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propaganda?

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You know, like it's such a huge thing.

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Yeah.

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So in this next club, still on the 25th here, Alex gets into like, he teased a little bit

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earlier talking about Charlottesville and how everyone was actors and stuff like that,

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whatever.

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All the Nazis were fake.

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They're all globalists.

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In his next clip, I think what he's doing is, I think you could fairly call it wholesale

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revision.

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Joe Biden launches his campaign on the lie that Trump said neo-Nazis were very fine people.

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You know, I wondered why when Charlottesville happened almost two years ago now, right after

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Trump got into office, I got sued.

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And the suit against myself, Lee Ann McAdoo, Lee Stranahan, former Congressman and others

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said that we said that the Democrats killed the woman who had a heart attack or got bumped

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by a car.

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We said that the police stood down, herded the white supremacist and journalist and just

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bystanders, it's called kettling, into Antifa and allowed them to attack, creating a hysterical

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melee.

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So the first thing I want to say is that, like, Alex complains a ton about Joe Biden

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announcing and evoking Charlottesville, and we're not going to listen to any of that,

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because fair enough.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I'm not going to sit here and be like, Joe Biden is great to...

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Nope.

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Fuck off.

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Nope, fuck him.

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So Alex also, though, I think probably more importantly for our purposes, he's completely

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misrepresenting what he's being sued for about Charlottesville and the white supremacist

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rally that occurred there.

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Alex isn't being sued by George Soros or the deep state or some shadowy globalist conspiracy,

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and he's not being sued for saying that the Democrats killed anyone.

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He's being sued by one person whose name he knows better than to ever say on air again,

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because that person has been very consistent and public about how he's never going to settle

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this lawsuit.

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That person is Brennan Gilmore, who's suing Alex for defaming him and causing harassment,

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including allegedly his own doxing, as well as a, quote, unknown chemical being mailed

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to his parents' house.

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In late March 2019, about a month ago, US District Judge Norman Moon ruled that Alex's

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publications, as well as those of a number of other defendants, were the cause of Brendan

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Gilmore's alleged injuries.

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And as such, a First Amendment defense is inappropriate, which takes away one of Alex's

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only legs that he ever feels safe standing on.

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Put simply, this lawsuit could be big trouble for Alex if the judge has already made clear

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that First Amendment complaints aren't relevant and cannot be introduced.

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Yeah, then he's fucked.

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Well, until appeal, perhaps.

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Right.

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Oh, that's a good point.

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But he doesn't really have much of ground for defense in terms of this.

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And he would have to find an appeals court that would take up the case, because a reasonable

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appeals court would almost certainly be like, nah, you're done fucked up.

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Well, and one of Alex's complaints is that, like, I didn't mail in these things and stuff

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like that.

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He just realized.

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And the court already has said that what precipitated that harassment is things that you and these

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other co-defendants published.

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So that argument doesn't work either.

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Yeah.

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So I just remembered, it sounds so banal coming out of my mouth, because it seems so, it's

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something that we've just normalized.

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But there are appeals courts that are completely different than other appeals courts.

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Yeah.

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You know, doesn't that mean the law doesn't really mean

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anything?

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Well, but that's how the judicial system works.

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There are people, there's stuff that's open to interpretation, and then there's established

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law.

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Right.

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There's precedents and things like that.

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I mean, the difference in ideology from appeals court to appeals court, where somebody will

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say, like, this is a very regular thing, is like, well, we're going to go to the seventh

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court of appeals, because it's going to give us a ruling that is like this, as opposed

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to the ninth court of appeals, which we know is going to give us a different ruling.

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Yeah, but you know, doesn't that seem insane?

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You don't get really to choose, though, because they're over different, like, districts in

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the United States.

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Right.

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It's not like if you appeal your court, you're like, I'm going to the third.

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Well, that's what major corporations do, though, is that they find different ways to move it

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to the court that's going to be most favorable to them.

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I know that there are differences, but I think it's probably slightly less pronounced than

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we think.

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That's probably true.

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I think that the idea that the Ninth Circuit is some sort of a liberal bugaboo to conservative

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politics is probably a conservative talking point.

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I think that...

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Well, there are other ones that are bugaboos to the liberal.

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Sure, and I bet the scale of it is much less than we think.

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That's probably true.

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I think that most of it probably errs towards the law.

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Right. I'm going to put heavy scare quotes around that.

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So, Jordan, here's the thing.

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On the day of the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Infowars had a very serious

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problem on their hands.

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The whole thing was terrible optics.

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Alex could and would be totally fine defending people who were protesting to protect the

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statue of Robert E. Lee.

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That's old hat for him.

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But what's a little bit more of a difficult move to pull off is defending a large group

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of white dudes with tiki torches marching around yelling, Jews will not replace us,

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and blood and soil.

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One of the things that's important to remember about this rally is spelled out in its name.

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The rally was ostensibly about protecting this statue and preserving history.

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But it's probably worth mentioning that in May 2017, Richard Spencer led a rally for

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the same purpose there.

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In July 2017, the KKK held a rally against the statue's removal there.

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And in August 2017, the Unite the Right rally was held at the same place for the same alleged

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purpose, involving both members of the Klan and Richard Spencer as participants.

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It's not hard to see what was being united there.

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This confluence of things was a major problem for Alex.

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His brand doesn't work so well when he's associating himself with literal Nazis and white supremacists.

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As it kind of makes his the left just calls everyone they disagree with a Nazis argument

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fall apart if he's actually just hanging out and being like, look at those Nazis, they're

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great.

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But at the same time, he can't not have a comment about this giant culture war battle

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that's unfolding in front of him, particularly one where he feels the Confederacy is possibly

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under attack.

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As we know, his family literally fought for the Confederacy.

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If he comes down squarely on the side of the dudes with tiki torches and Nazi regalia,

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he knows that that's kind of a dead end for him from a narrative perspective,

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particularly after the protests turn violent.

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Conversely, there's no way in hell he's going to land on the side of the anti-fascist

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counter-demonstrators, and there's similarly no chance that his audience is going to let

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him sit this one out and say, I don't know what's going on here.

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Literally, the only path available to him was to deny that the bad guys at Charlottesville

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were actually bad guys.

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They were in fact agents of the globalists pretending to be Nazis and white supremacists.

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At 1.42 PM, James Fields Jr., a legit Nazi from way back who was photographed at the

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rally proudly sporting a Vanguard America shield, rammed his car into a group of counter-demonstrators,

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injuring 19 people and killing Heather Heyer.

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The evidence is overwhelming that this was an intentional attack, and all the conspiracy

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theories trying to explain away his actions and paint him as some kind of a victim in

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the whole thing have been thoroughly debunked, and he has been sentenced to life in prison.

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So, as of at least 1.43 PM, you had a rally that Alex can neither support nor condemn

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that has led to a murder.

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The stakes have been raised, and in order for him to maintain his position in the marketplace

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of propaganda, he needs to find an angle to make this whole thing fake, and he needs to

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find that fast.

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What he landed on is trying to discredit the person who shot the footage of Fields' car

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attack, who was Brennan Gilmore.

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Alex's crack team of researchers, the same ones that just generally report as fact whatever

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bullshit they find on 4chan, dug up the fact that Gilmore had previously worked at the

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State Department in the US Foreign Service.

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This was all it took to create the narrative that this whole thing was a deep state operation

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to make the Patriots look bad.

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Adding to the conspiracy was the fact that Gilmore worked on Tom Perriello's campaign.

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Perriello was an insider, you see, and the fact that Gilmore worked for him was proof

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that something was up.

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Of course, Perriello hadn't held an elected position since 2011, when he ended a two-year

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run in the House of Representatives, and he lost the 2017 Democratic primary.

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Alex used these pieces of evidence to spin the conspiracy that Brennan Gilmore was evidence

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that the State Department was active in making the events of Charlottesville happen.

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The accusations are wide-ranging, but it all seems to come back to Alex and his associates

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alleging that Gilmore was a Soros operative and had something to do with the chaos at

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the rally.

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Obviously, these accusations aren't true, so Gilmore is suing Alex, and it looks like

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he has a pretty decent shot at the case working out.

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I base that assessment on the fact that Alex and his lawyers have had to resort to really

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weak defenses.

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Like, recently they tried to claim that Gilmore is a public figure, so in order to prove defamation,

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Gilmore's lawyers would need to establish malicious intent.

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Gilmore's lawyers were pretty quick to point out that Gilmore is not a public figure and

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wasn't until Alex and his cohorts made him one by lying about him and spreading conspiracy

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theories.

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So that is the reality of the lawsuit that Alex is up against, that he's trying to misrepresent

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and create a strawman version of to talk about, because he knows better than to talk about

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it for real, because if he does, that'll just make the lawsuit that much worse.

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Now, Alex saying that Heather Heyer might have died from a heart attack is a legitimate

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and overt example of him using a very traceable talking point.

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This is something that is only expressed on Nazi message boards and outlets as an attempt

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to take culpability for her death away from James Fields.

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This is a winking in-joke that speakers know, the people who say it, they know that it isn't

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true, but it's used to signal to each other that they approve of fascist murder.

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The talking point is based on a misspeaking that Heather Heyer's mother made to reporters

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in the immediate aftermath of her daughter's death, when she said Heather had a heart attack

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at the scene of the attack.

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What she had meant to express is that doctors had told her that her daughter's heart had

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stopped at the scene and they'd been successful in getting it to beat again, but the success

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was temporary.

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Miss Heyer later clarified her statement, but it didn't matter.

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When Miss Heyer gave her initial statement, she expressed uncertainty and said that she

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was waiting on the medical examiner's report.

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When that report came out, it was clear that Heather died from blunt force trauma.

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The only people who would come anywhere close to suggesting that Heather died from a heart

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attack, particularly in 2019, are doing so to very specifically signal to white supremacists

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and Nazis that they are on their side.

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That is code, and Alex is using it.

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Now, I also accept a possibility that Alex is fucking stupid.

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I think that there's a chance that some of his researchers in heavy quotes are using

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this code, and Alex doesn't know that, because Alex doesn't do any preparation.

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I think that there is a possibility that he is unknowingly speaking white supremacist

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and Nazi code on air, but if that's the case, then the people who are doing his work for

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him are intentionally feeding him that.

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There's no good way for that to shake out.

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No, I did not even think about that.

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I just assumed that the heart attack was just some run-of-the-mill conspiracy theory that

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everybody does, but yeah, why would anybody insist otherwise unless they were trying to

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make sure Nazis look better?

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Jesus.

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The fact that it's become almost like a meme, kind of, is important for what's being transmitted

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when it's said.

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Now to the question of police ordering a stand down and kenneling protesters, which Alex

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seems to think is all he said, and that's all my coverage was.

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That's all my coverage was.

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He's saying that they kenneled these protesters and counter-protesters together.

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This is a little bit more of an open question than I actually wish it was.

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This one bums me out a little.

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There are valid criticisms of the police department, and some of them are pretty close to what

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Alex is claiming, but the context and surrounding information and the way Alex presents his

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narratives make it so it's pretty much, Alex is still pretty much full of shit.

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The police chief in Charlottesville, as well as the city spokesperson and mayor, have all

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gone on record and explicitly said that there was no stand down order put out that day.

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The ACLU has theorized that the police were hanging back and waiting for violence to break

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out so that they could have a reason to clear the area knowing that violence was inevitable.

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That theory seems fairly plausible, but also hasn't been proven to have been an actual

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stand down strategy, anything like that the police were employing.

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It just seems to match with what happened.

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With what occurred, yeah.

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But it still is not based on evidence.

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Right, right, right, right.

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You would have to prove what would almost certainly be something that was just generally

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agreed upon by just inaction and following the leader, I guess.

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Well, there's some information coming.

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So factcheck.org researched the claims of a police stand down, and not too surprisingly,

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the only evidence they found for it comes from Your News Wire and truthuncensored.net.

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Two completely full of shit conspiracy websites.

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The two sites feature a quote from an alleged Charlottesville police officer who is anonymous,

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of course.

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Surprise.

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Who said, quote, we were ordered to bring the rival groups together.

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As soon as they were in contact with each other, we were told to stand down.

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It was outrageous.

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We weren't allowed to arrest anyone without asking the mayor first.

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We weren't even allowed to stop the driver as he sped away.

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The event was being set up as far back as at least May, and it went like clockwork.

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We want to do our job and keep the peace, but these motherfuckers in charge really want

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to destroy America.

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First thing.

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That is a hell of a fake quote.

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Well, the first thing that should jump out at you is it's been in plan since at least

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May.

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That's when Richard Spencer's rally was.

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So it's sort of tying all the rallies that have happened in Charlottesville together as

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part of the globalist plan.

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You know, if you've read enough news, you can kind of get the feel for when somebody

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gives too good a quote.

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Yeah, that's a real good quote.

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Like, that quote is such a...

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You can see the newsroom.

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You can see the newsroom being like, man, that's a great quote.

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How did you get that?

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Oh, you can't reveal your source to me?

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Oh, right.

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Well, that's the same story that all of the made up quotes guys wind up having.

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But that's why this didn't get any coverage in real media, but on those two websites it

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did.

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And you're saying it's a really good quote, but there's one piece of it that you probably

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don't understand that actually makes this a very bad quote as a fake quote.

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One of the reasons that this...

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You can tell this is obviously a fake cop making a fake statement is because he says

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that they weren't allowed to arrest anyone without asking the mayor.

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This is an intrinsic misunderstanding of how the city of Charlottesville civic structure

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works.

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And any cop with any information about the departmental operations would absolutely not

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make that mistake.

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Council operates under a city manager form of government where the mayor is not voted

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into office, but is selected by elected city council members.

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The position of mayor is largely ceremonial in terms of duties and would have literally

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no authority over whether or not to arrest anyone at a protest.

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This is a glaring example of this being clearly erroneous insider information.

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It's clearly disseminated to produce a false narrative not to report fact.

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The mayor just presides over city council meetings and stuff like that.

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It's not over the police department.

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Right.

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And in 1992, it was a dog for six months, right?

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Might as well be.

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Yeah.

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That's not fair, but might as well be.

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So you understand, anybody who would be making this sort of information would know that.

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Right.

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No, that's what I meant by saying that's too good a quote.

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It's so obviously fake that it's yeah.

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And the thing is that fake anonymous cop's bullshit story doesn't match any other documented

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reality, but it does closely match up with Alex's spin on the rally.

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I have almost zero doubt that when Alex says the police have come out and admitted that

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there was a stand down, literally the only thing he's basing that on is this fake anonymous

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quote published on a couple of bullshit conspiracy sites that is interns frequent to steal content.

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I'm pretty sure.

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Yeah, that sounds right.

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And now here's where things get a little bit murky.

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In March 2018, a FOIA request made public an internal police memo from August 7th, days

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before the Charlottesville rally.

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In the memo, there was discussion of how the permit for the rally had been granted with

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a prediction of 400 people attending, but that intelligence gathered indicated that

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it would be way more people than that and that violence was a very likely outcome.

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The memo explicitly said, quote, officers should keep close watch of the crowd members

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who are exhibiting behaviors which could become violent.

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Officers should make arrests when appropriate for unlawful behavior and should use issued

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flex cuffs as restraints.

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Granted, this plan was not followed through on, owing largely to shitty communication

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and contradictory orders, many of which seemed to prioritize police officers' safety over

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civilian safety.

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Police allocated manpower in horrible fashion, and there seemed to be almost no coordination

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or shared responsibilities between the Charlottesville Police Department and Virginia State Police.

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Police who served basically as park security as opposed to getting involved in active crowd

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control, which was desperately needed.

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There was no stand-down order, but there was terrible policing going on there.

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Police Chief Al Thomas was alleged to have said, quote, let them fight, it will make

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it easier to declare an unlawful assembly, as the rally was starting to turn ugly.

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But even this doesn't constitute a stand-down order.

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Also, Thomas insists he didn't say that and that his position was that he wanted to, quote,

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see how things played out.

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Either way.

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OK.

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Either way.

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All right.

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That helps.

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Not a better position.

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No, I didn't want him to die.

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I wanted people to see if he died.

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Either way, Thomas resigned in disgrace by the end of 2017.

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Good call.

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An investigation done by U.S. Attorney Timothy Heafey found that the city was overconfident

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in their ability to deal with what was coming.

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And because of that, it failed to protect their community in myriad ways.

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But it found no evidence of a stand-down order.

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But of course, Alex knows better.

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He has sources, like that fake anonymous cop who was quoted in Your News Wire.

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So all this stuff is bullshit.

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It's nonsense.

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There is a more complicated reality behind the lies that Alex is saying.

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That's what I was sort of alluding to, is like, he's a little bit closer to reality

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than I like him to be on this.

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Right.

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And it would be nice to just be able to say, no, the police acted well.

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They did a good job.

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But it's not.

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It's not the reality.

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If they had done a good job, somebody most likely wouldn't be dead.

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And in their deficiencies and in their failures to manage the crowd appropriately, they did

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end up having counter demonstrators and the people who were awful ended up in close proximity

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to each other, which is something that had they have planned appropriately and followed

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the plan, as was stated in that August 7th release, it might not have gone that poorly.

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Did they purposefully kennel?

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Probably not.

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Did they functionally kennel?

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Probably.

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You know?

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And there's a big difference.

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There is a very big difference.

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So Alex is wrong about pretty much everything.

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Yeah.

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I mean, this isn't news for us.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But he has other evidence than this fake cop on Your News Wire.

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And man, this, of all the things that could possibly happen, like, I don't think I'm looking

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forward to hearing about the Sandy Hook lawsuits as they progress.

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I think that'll be probably real mucky.

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Not fun.

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Yeah.

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And certainly Charlottesville is equally, not equally, maybe, I don't know.

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I don't want to put a scale on it.

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It's also a traumatic thing.

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Great way of putting it, yeah.

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But I do think that there's potential for Alex really embarrassing himself in court.

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If he follows through with this strategy, I fucking pray he does.

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And he started the fight, the police made him collide together.

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That's what Trump said.

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That turns into Trump's white supremacy.

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So they think this lie got exposed a year and a half ago.

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We exposed it.

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So they got pissed.

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We got in the middle of their talking points that we were going to point out that the Democrats

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did orchestrate this and we got documents showing that Democrats have orchestrated other

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riots in Maryland, which would be very powerful in court, specifically Soros and his son Alexander.

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He is going to introduce the fucking bogus ass Soros-Antifa contracts that he found on

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4chan into court.

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I pray that he does that.

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I beg of him to introduce that to the court.

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See how quickly that turns you to, sir, Mr. Jones, I beg of you.

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Oh my God.

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That would be amazing.

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Okay.

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Mr. Jones, first off, this is stupid.

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Right.

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This is very stupid.

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Second, the evidence that you are providing is related to something that has nothing to

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do with this situation right here.

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And is a hoax.

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Yes.

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So, sir, please leave.

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I think whatever that guy wants, he gets.

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You're done.

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I think Alex introducing that into court like could like, I mean, not just because of introducing

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it, but because I think obviously the court would be like, nah.

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And then Alex's response to that I think could lead to a contempt of court charge.

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That would be great.

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I think Alex might end up screaming about how this is a Soros cover up or something.

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You know, he was always meant to teach a bullhorn class in prison.

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He does also seem like, like there is a part of me that thinks that he believes that those

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contracts are real.

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It does sound like it.

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Like if he would go so far as to introduce them in court, like I don't think you would

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pull that sort of a bluff if you knew that they were bullshit.

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Yeah.

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He, I think it could be such an embarrassing chapter.

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Like the optics of him arguing America certainly, but for Alex to like the idea of him trying

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to argue in court that those are real, holy shit, that would be amazing, sir.

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Under oath.

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Where did you find those?

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Wow.

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There's one guy, uh, uh, posted them on a anonymous message board saying that he found

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them, uh, in his brother's stuff.

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Um, yeah, I know it sounds stupid.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Saying it out loud in court does make it sound worse than I previously thought.

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It feels better on a radio show.

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It does feel better when nobody can say anything and nobody's like actually looking at me.

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It feels better.

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Can we do, can we do this, uh, court, uh, thing on the radio for my project?

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Can we get the judge and the plaintiff to, uh, to call in on my radio show and we'll

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be able to really get this one done?

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When I take the stand, can I come up to Moby?

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Can I come up to Highwayman coming up to the stand?

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Can I get the Imperial March?

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So we jump off these topics and now Alex is going to talk about how Trump has all of the

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best moves, not dance moves.

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He has all the moves at his disposal.

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Like he's playing poker with the globalists.

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Yeah.

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Now listen carefully to this and see if you can see where my mind was like, hold on now.

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They know Trump has it all and he's sitting back basically like a hundred card decks and

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the globalists have a, that's too many cards.

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A couple of ones, a couple of fours, a couple of queens, maybe a joker.

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Are they playing war?

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It's like all they've got is a handful of jokers to bluff and Trump's got hundreds of

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card decks.

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He can just pull out nothing but eights of spades if he wants, he can have all the Royal

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Flushes he wants.

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Royal Flush, Royal Flush, Royal Flush, Royal Flush, Royal Flush, but he's got to play the

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Royal Flush.

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He has them dead in the sights.

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I have three problems with that 40 second clip.

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What?

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First is that there are no ones.

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Alex says the globalists have some ones.

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There's no one.

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If you have a one, you have a fucked up deck of cards.

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Someone's cheating.

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Yeah.

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Two, Trump having a bunch of decks also probably cheating.

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Hundreds of decks.

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Probably cheating.

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No.

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No collusion.

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No collusion.

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No deck collusion.

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Third, are jokers wild?

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Because if so, if you have a handful of jokers, that means you've got a Royal Flush.

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That's true.

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It means you have whatever fucking hand you want if you've got a handful of jokers.

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If jokers aren't wild, this is a missed deal.

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And also, where are the P-knuckle instructions?

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What card is that one?

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What are we playing?

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We're playing Omaha High Low.

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Yeah.

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What's going on here?

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If you're playing Omaha High Low, having a one and a four is probably a good hand.

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Because they can play it low.

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Also, what does this mean?

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What is this poker game wherein one side only has a few cards and the other side has hundreds

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of decks that could be played at any moment?

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Having a couple of fours and a couple of queens is not a bad hand.

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That's a couple pairs.

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Yeah.

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That's two pairs.

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Yeah.

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Queen high, two pair.

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Not terrible.

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I've played enough poker in my time to know that you're going to win a good amount of

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hands.

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Also, if I'm the globalist in this situation and we're playing poker and one guy has hundreds

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of decks and I have a few cards, my thought is going to be, I don't want to play this

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game.

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No.

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So I'm going to play a different game and you can have fun with your cards.

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Right.

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You've got to know when to hold them, when to fold them, know when to walk away, when

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to run.

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Mr. Rogers, not the guy with the neighborhood, the other one, he taught us about what to

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do with cards.

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Sometimes you've got to run.

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Sometimes you've got to run.

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So in this next clip, Alex expresses his fictionalized version of that Charlottesville lawsuit.

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And I only keep this in because we get another impression, a new impression towards the end

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of this.

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Yes.

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The death is on your hands.

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Obama, Hillary, Soros, Alexander Soros, not a Democrat cameraman who's worked for Hillary,

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who we just said, look how it's perfect.

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They got a bunch of leftists there.

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The leftists knew the conflagration was coming.

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They knew the collapse was coming.

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They knew the explosion was coming.

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Doesn't mean they, the individuals killed the woman, but then they twist.

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And then in my name, say that I say some guy killed the woman and then he sues me.

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You see how it works?

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You see how it works?

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We keep the baby alive in Virginia.

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Then we get the little juicy organs.

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He's not the villain, the governor talking like this, the sweet southern voice.

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Is that Bernie?

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Blood ball, little flesh ball.

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It's Alex Jones.

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He's the bad one everywhere.

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He questions things.

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So Alex is trying to do an impression of Ralph Northam, I believe the governor of Virginia.

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The problem is like the timeframe that he's talking about is like before he was governor.

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Northam didn't get into office until 2018.

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So after, so I don't know what's going on there, but I think what I want to point out

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here very importantly is this was on the 25th.

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Alex is re-bringing up his Governor Northam wants to kill babies after they're born kind

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of rhetoric, which is a big thing that he's been pushing lately.

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And last night, as we're recording this, on Friday night, Trump, or Saturday night, excuse

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me, Trump had a rally in Green Bay, which he did instead of going to face criticism

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at the correspondence dinner, which he literally told all of his staff they're not allowed

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to go to after Sarah Sanders got embarrassed last year.

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Well, they were meanies.

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They were very mean.

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They were so mean.

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But the snowflakes were mean, by the way, the snowflakes were mean.

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They were mean, those snowflakes, and they just didn't want these alphas to feel so

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strong.

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In response to that, the strongest of all the alphas made an order that no one associated

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with him is allowed to go to the snowflake dinner.

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Yeah, he cried and took his ball and went home.

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Well, not home.

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Like a man.

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He went to Green Bay to hold one of his totally not authoritarian rallies.

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But at the rally, Trump talked about the idea that after babies are born, they wrap them

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up and then the mother and the doctor decide whether or not to execute it.

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And that's mirroring Alex's rhetoric.

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And Alex isn't alone in those narratives, which aren't real and aren't true at all.

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But you see this now.

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The bleeding is going into overdrive.

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The idea that a sitting president would push Infowars narratives to a screaming crowd of

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crazies is dangerous.

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It kind of makes you feel like the 25th Amendment didn't even need to be ratified.

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It needs to be used, but it didn't need to be ratified because clearly we're not going

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to use it.

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I mean, if we're not now, I don't know.

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I can't imagine the scenario.

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Like what if Bernie gets in and he just like bad example to use a specific person.

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Just imagine a person, Jerry Lewis, sure, wins the next election as a Democrat and starts

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running around drunk with a lampshade on his head.

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Yeah.

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In the White House.

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Is that 25th Amendment level?

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What are his policy positions anymore?

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It's insane.

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I can't I can't.

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Yeah.

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If this isn't enough, it's not enough.

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I can't imagine a scenario where it would be enough.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Like even then, it's like, isn't he just too dumb?

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Aren't we at the place where it's just like, oh, you're too dumb.

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You're too dumb.

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That's 25th Amendment.

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Yeah.

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Isn't that a certain.

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That's it's insane.

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Well, I mean, what's the point?

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I think you could make a pretty robust argument just from like whether or not there's like

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mental deterioration and, you know, that sort of thing.

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What you're doing is a danger to people.

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Yeah.

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You being in office is a severe danger to people's safety, whether it's reproductive

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rights workers who now have to worry about tons of people believing that they're executing

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babies and that it's justified to shoot and bomb them, as has been done in the past.

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Or whether it's Muslims who have people who are emboldened by Trump like Alex coming out

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and expressing that there can only be under 10 percent of a population being Muslim or

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else they will bomb all of us.

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Yeah, I just I think that you could make a pretty robust argument that Trump being in

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office is a danger to the safety of a lot of people.

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But of course, if you tried to make those arguments, Alex and his propaganda cohorts

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would be like, yeah, he's a danger to the globalist system.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And that's really what they're afraid of.

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So, I mean, we're just in a dead end.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, it's and it's it's so disappointing whenever you like whenever you read Twitter

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saying we can't we can't get rid of Nazi hate speech because our algorithm mixes it up with

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Republican speech and you're like, you bet, guys, guys.

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Come on.

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Yeah.

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Come on, guys.

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You didn't even word that right.

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Yeah.

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What you should have said was we can't get rid of the Nazi hate speech because it's what

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Republicans say, too.

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Yeah.

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So this is this now we get into an interesting territory.

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I was not super surprised by hearing Alex's talk about Charlottesville the way he was

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he was talking about it, because that's fairly in line with the stuff you said in the past.

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This next stretch was crazy.

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OK.

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And that is that I think Alex is trying to present the idea that all of the Nazis and

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white supremacists that were at Charlottesville were not only actors, were not only what Democratic

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deep state operatives.

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They were all gay.

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What?

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If you actually look at all these men and look at their behavior and look at how they're

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acting, this is the acting club and this is the drama club from surrounding universities.

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And I mean, it's basically a giant gay dress up party with a bunch of gay men dressed up

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as Nazis in their giant Jesse Smollett event.

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OK.

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Whoa.

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All right, buddy.

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That was did.

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Did he just get he just got a Yahtzee?

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I think that was Yahtzee.

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Wow.

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What the fuck just happened?

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So when I heard that, I was like, that's new that is new.

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It's all a bunch of gay dressed up like Nazis having a Jesse Smollett event.

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Wow.

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So I thought that was it.

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And then Alex follows it up with this doubling the fuck down.

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And I've I've had the leaders of it on like, yes, I was a big Obama supporter until a year

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ago or yes, I was for Hillary until now.

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But my Alex was so handsome today.

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And again, look.

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I understand the gay guys are thinking they got to go fight Trump or whatever, and they've

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got to fight the racism.

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What?

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This is really bad.

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You've got to give it up to the Smolletts.

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And and that's what it is.

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Now, there's some real white supremacists that join the group that see some real Klan

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guys out there, like Hillbilly, like we're going to be like, yeah, there was a few.

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Oh, did he just throw that word down?

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The vast majority go to local colleges and they dressed up.

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As Nazis to go out and do this, I mean, just look at the footage, it's ridiculous.

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So he's really he's really this is not something I've heard him say in the past, the idea that

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it was a bunch of gay dudes who were running around like Nazis.

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And I got it.

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I got to be honest, like the idea of the actor stuff is like, yeah, all right, I expect that

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from you, Alex.

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But like, he is very insistent about the gay piece.

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He really is.

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Yeah.

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Really.

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It's just really is.

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Listen to this.

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I really think he dropped the N word, too.

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I think he muddled.

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I think he was.

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I think he was.

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I'm not sure.

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Yeah.

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We'll let the forensic analysis.

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Yeah.

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Analysts who are listening decide on that one.

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But listen to this.

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He's so insistent about this gay stuff, even of all those little nelly waddling.

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I mean, you know, there were types of gay guys.

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You got the big tough gay guys.

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You got what are we doing?

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And you go see all the little sissy flamer guys going, oh, Hitler, we love him.

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Oh, oh, oh, Trump, we love Trump, oh, oh, oh, oh, I mean, give me a break, man.

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He's so bad.

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I don't know what's going I don't know what we're what's he's so bad.

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What?

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He's so bad.

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What is happening?

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He's so bad about these imaginary gay people who are dressed up like Nazis just so he doesn't

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have to deal with the fact that there are a bunch of white supremacist and Nazis that

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love the same guy he loves for the same reasons.

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OK.

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This is like him getting super mad about how much he agrees with David Duke.

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That is insane.

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It's crazy.

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That is absolutely OK.

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Here's here's here.

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Here's what we're going to do, Alex.

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We got our new angle.

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This way, you don't have to say that you love white supremacists.

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Call them gay.

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Done.

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Move on.

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Next.

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Next lawsuit.

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They're just gay Democrat actors.

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Yep.

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Woo.

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What?

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Time has shown that a lot of the people who have been identified who were Nazis at that

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rally, first of all, aren't gay art actors and are not Democrats who were recruited from

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area colleges.

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Yeah.

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So this.

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Well, there were a few white supremacists from the boom boom.

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I like I like his southern accent where it just sounds like him.

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And I love.

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Yeah.

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I love the idea that he's doing that sort of disparagingly to the people of the south

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who he claims he loves so much and everyone else thinks are stupid.

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Yeah.

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But much like those Soros and Tifa documents, I would love for him to try and introduce

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this into court, please.

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Because Jordan, here's the thing, you're not guilty by reason of homophobia, your honor.

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These are clearly system flamers.

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They are not at all Trump's reporters.

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Objection.

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Objection.

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I guess sustained.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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So Alex has one piece of evidence that I think is probably incontrovertible and would definitely

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stand out.

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Wait.

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One piece of evidence that these are all.

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I'm being very facetious.

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Gay actor.

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I'm being very facetious.

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No, no, no.

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I understand.

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But this is evidence for them all being gay.

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I think part of it is that they're wearing button up shirts when they were holding the

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tiki torches and yelling blood and soil and shit.

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Well, we all roundly mocked what they looked like then.

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Right.

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But it was more because they looked like they were all in golf outfits.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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Look douchey.

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Very much.

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But Alex plays some video and this is his sort of definitive evidence that these aren't

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real Nazis.

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And they all just run around like, I mean, you look at the bottom, look at how the guys

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are running.

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Oh, yeah, we're going to fight.

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Oh, we're Nazis.

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Oh, look, Nazis are marching everywhere.

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If you're following this, he's basically saying that the way they run is way too gay for them

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to be real Nazis.

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Yeah.

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Which.

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All right.

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All right.

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Let's see where this line of thought goes.

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I didn't know that that was admissible in court, but OK.

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I can't wait to depose all these people.

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That's why we need a war chest, ladies and gentlemen.

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I am looking forward to the Charlottesville thing to expose what really happened.

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I'm looking forward more and more to the Sandy Hook thing and the depositions and all the

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rest of it.

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I see you to get dialed in on who was who, who was running what.

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We know what law firms are running and who's funding it.

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We have all the intel.

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We're now hooked in and we've got intel on them.

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And so I've been advised by high level forces that we need to just go ahead and get into

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this.

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They've really miscalculated, but it's going to take funds, ladies and gentlemen.

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So that's all.

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Oh, yeah, it's all basically an ad pivot for him needing to sell products in order to fund

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his defense.

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Yeah.

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Like so all this stuff is still kind of ad pivoting.

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Like it's still sort of the prelude to I need money.

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The idea that like, oh, these are fake Nazis.

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They're all secretly gay Democrats from local colleges, acting programs.

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I can't wait to depose them.

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Listen up.

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I got one question for you in this deposition and remind you you're under oath.

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Are you an undercover Democratic operative who's gay cyanide pill?

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This isn't going to work out well now, but I do think it is probably going to work out

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well with him getting some money from the people that he has left.

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And you can see like this sort of thing, like I need money for this war chest.

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I'm so excited about this lawsuit that I'm really on the wrong end of and the dude won't

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settle.

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Yeah.

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Listen, please give me money.

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Knockout is 100 percent off it.

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You know, every we say this a bit, but it's like you kind of see death rose.

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Oh, yeah.

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You see, like just like this isn't good.

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Well, he's no longer operating as a business.

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He's operating as a way to get just enough revenue to cover his bullshit.

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And I've noticed an upward trend in the later part of April here that Alex is saying a lot

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more like I come from like community TV.

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Public access to you think I'm going to stop.

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Yeah, I'll go back to, you know, like that sort of thing.

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Like you might be considering that as a very likely outcome in a short amount of time.

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But the good news is the podcasting has evolved so much since Alex's early days that you could

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probably make a living just doing a podcast.

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Yeah.

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If if this show is any evidence, I think he could probably be just fine.

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Yeah.

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Probably have to sell some boats, maybe not be able to have all that great property to

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sell some boats.

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I mean, he probably wouldn't be able to live up to the standard that he lives, but he could

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get a one apartment, a one bedroom apartment in Chicago.

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Oh, man.

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Wouldn't that be fun?

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Yeah.

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Especially if he was across the hall from you.

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Oh, it'd be terrible.

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I think that would be one of the only few things that would be worse than the neighbors

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I currently have.

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Yeah.

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He knocks on your door.

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He's like, hey, my my equipment's gone down.

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You mind?

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Oh, I mean, you got to you got to set up here.

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I mean, it's just it's a three hour show.

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I'll produce, but I'm not editing.

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We don't edit.

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So in this next clip, Alex talks about this Democrats pretending to be Nazis plan.

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I want you to listen to this and just just think about how overly complicated this is,

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as opposed to the idea that there are actual white supremacist and Nazis, because the Democrat

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plan is to have leftist posing as Nazis announce events that were Nazis to come to it to all

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in blue cities, then reporters will come to cover it.

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They'll all be called Nazis for they'll have antifa attack, create a melee and they'll

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claim a race war started.

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That's the M.O.

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We got the secret documents in January of 2018 from the Soros group, from family members

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that got inside the Antifa.

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And those documents are real.

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They've not contested them.

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How this is their plan.

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That's why they don't want us on air or you on air.

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So they've not contested them.

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All right.

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There you go.

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That is absolutely not.

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That's all you need.

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They didn't say there is a thing where, like I know in like TV and movies, people will

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be like, I won't even dignify that with a response.

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But in the real world, when people won't dignify something with a response, they just don't

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say anything.

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And for the Soros group, I would say not responding to this.

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Good move.

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Yeah.

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Good move.

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We've got these documents.

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Yeah.

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And then walk away.

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So at the beginning of this episode, I pointed out that Alex ran into Max Keiser and the

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two of them had a little talk about Bitcoin and stuff like that.

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They talk about a lot of stuff.

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But at the end of the episode, the third hour is just Alex playing his interview with Max

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Keiser.

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He just leaves.

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Oh, he just leaves?

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Yeah.

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He isn't on air anymore.

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He's just like, play the interview.

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And it's stupid.

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I don't really care.

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Alex missed out on $50 million of Bitcoin or whatever, which is actually way more if

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he would have sold when it was before it crashed again.

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That would have been, yeah, that would have been $150 million.

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But the only thing I really care about is this clip from the interview, which is whonelly.

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Trump did run for president out of nowhere and win.

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They tried to act like he was a silver spoon and was not a self-made man.

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The guy has incredible charisma, incredible energy, and it's not like a worship fest.

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But compared to all 18 Democrat candidates, he has more smarts and more energy than all

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of those teleprompter-reading boobs.

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I just think the Democrats should just give up and capitulate and let America be great

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again.

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But they're not going to do it.

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So as the depression intensifies, I agree, they're worn out for now, but they're going

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to come back.

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I think there's going to get more zany, more wacky.

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So Alex is advocating that the Democrats should just concede the 2020 election.

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Well, yeah.

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Look at all these teleprompter-reading boobs.

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They just give up.

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We all know that none of them are as good a president.

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So why not just not have the election?

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So when I was younger, I, you know, I was very against George W. Bush and I, you know,

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was a protest, the Iraq war.

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And I didn't like John Kerry, but I was, I supported Kerry in that election.

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And at no point did I say George W. Bush should concede the election because that's fucked

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up.

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That's crazy.

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Because that's kind of similar to Alex's claims that like Obama was going to cancel the election

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and stuff like that.

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The idea of like, we shouldn't even have this democratic process.

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Why even bother?

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We already know that Trump is going to win with 97% of the vote, like very normal countries

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have.

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The only difference between him being like, Obama's going to cancel the election and Democrats

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should give up this election is that he's kind of being like, uh, like it should be

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their choice, but there shouldn't be an election choice.

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You're misunderstanding.

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Very fucked up.

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Both of them are the same.

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Obama should cancel the election by giving it up and Democrats should cancel this election

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by quitting.

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Well, whatever the case, that's a really fucked up anti-democratic idea.

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That's really, here's the problem with democracy.

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People change.

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I don't like it.

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So how about they just quit?

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That'd be nice.

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Fuck it.

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Yeah.

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So we get to the 26th and Alex gets back to talking about how he has those three sources,

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but he won't tell them, tell you who they are, even though they said he could.

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I've got to spend more time in DC, man.

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It's just amazing.

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The context we've got, how we can just walk into any of these offices, any of these facilities

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and talk to folks and they just give us the Intel.

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And I was told, go ahead and release who told me this, but I'm not going to do it just to

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leave it at that.

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But, uh, I mean, it does, it does raise the question, why, give me a reason, right?

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Uh, you know, the only thing that I could imagine is possible, and I don't think this

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is the case, but the only explanation I can come up with is Alex is trying to rope a dope

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the media into saying like, you don't have any fucking sources.

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And then he pulls out, boom, here's who it is.

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Like that sort of thing.

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Okay.

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But I don't think that's what's happening.

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You think he's, he's playing it close to the vest, if you will.

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Well, I know that he likes to set traps, you know, they're usually bad traps.

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Yeah.

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This one's a bad, this one's a bad trap.

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I could, that's the only explanation that when, as I sit here and I think about like,

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what could be going on here, that's the only thing that makes sense other than I'm making

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this shit up.

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But even then, is that really a trap so much as just having to reveal information based

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on people asking you a question?

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Well, one, one way to play it is to just tell people who the person is, right?

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That's one way to do it.

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That's a good start.

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Right.

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I mean, that's just what journalists might do, especially when they've been given clearance

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by their source to say who it is.

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It kind of adds to the reporting and makes it seem like, oh, maybe there's credibility

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here.

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Right.

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Another possible strategy would be to have actual sources and people who have said, you

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can say my name, creating...

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Say my name, say my name.

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When no one is around you.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Like on a radio show and you're sitting alone with them.

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When you're, you know, you can have that information and then make a big deal out of how you're

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not going to say who the people are, knowing that everyone knows you lie all the time.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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So then everyone covers it and they're like, this guy's fucking making this shit up.

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He's a big old liar and it's just another example of him being a big old fucking liar

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with a thick neck.

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Then what you can do is be like...

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The mainstream media is getting a little petty.

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Well, it's time.

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But then once they do that, you pull out your name with your real source and then you get

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to be like, the mainstream media always lies.

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They say that I don't have sources.

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Well, I do have a source.

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And in that way you can sort of reclaim all the times you've been lying in the past.

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Be like, I could have done this any time.

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Yeah.

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Or something like that.

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Right.

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You could create some sort of a propaganda coup out of it.

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Yeah.

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Again, I don't think that's what Alex is doing, but I do see a potential strategy someone

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could be employing like that, hoping someone falls into the trap and be like, they're fake

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news.

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They say, I lie, they're lying.

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Right.

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In the same way I see the globalist plan with the Charlottesville rally.

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Somebody conceivably could be that weird, evil, beyond villain, but I doubt it's Alex.

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Yeah.

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So like the last episode ended with a really long interview with Max Keiser, Alex also

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spends a large portion of the beginning of this episode playing Hannity's interview with

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Trump.

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So Hannity had an interview with Trump on Fox news.

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Okay.

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Alex just plays a ton of it.

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And here is Alex setting up, getting into like, he's about to go to that interview.

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But the first 15 minutes or so he gets into the deep state, the attempted coup and the

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counter strikes that are planned and the fact that they are pushing for indictments and

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they have all the evidence.

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But I know they have the evidence because I was there researching and watching it all

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in the last three years.

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We were the first show to say they were illegally spying on Trump.

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Now up to this point from the 25th, we have the evidence of the Evelyn Farkas clip that

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Alex is lying about.

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We have Larry C. Johnson, which is a load of bullshit.

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And now Alex brings up the hat trick of things that we've covered on this show and are complete

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bullshit.

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We then received NSA documents via the drug enforcement agency exclusive.

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That's WikiLeaks level stuff, folks.

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Protected by law journalism where Trump and myself were being spied on by journalism right

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after he got into office.

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Our private numbers, everything we were saying, doing, we were given the index code.

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That broke that zero attention.

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It got zero attention cause it's bullshit.

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You didn't get it from the DEA.

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You got it from Dennis Montgomery by through the hands of Joe Arpaio and his dumb ass cold

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case squad.

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Mike Zullo and oh, you know who else, Larry Klayman, who is now suing Alex along with

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Jerome Corsi.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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So that's where all that information came from.

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The propaganda attempt by Dennis Montgomery, who is a fake whistleblower who, Jesus Christ,

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if you want to understand that, go back to our episode.

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It's called the Dennis Montgomery investigation.

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It explains how all of this was trying to, involves trying to intimidate a judge.

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It's a mess.

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It's a whole mess.

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Yeah.

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That story is way too long to get into.

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Yeah.

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But that's the third piece of the Trump is being spied on narrative, which is just bullshit.

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So you have Larry C. Johnson, Evelyn Farkas, nonsense, Larry, Dennis Montgomery.

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You got the propaganda comes in three trifecta of it.

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You got to understand if Alex is using these as reinforcing that narrative, he doesn't

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have anything in the same way that if he's trying to say that the globalists play in

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Charlottesville and I have the proof it's these contracts I found on 4chan with Soros.

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He doesn't have something real.

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If you start with this, that's bad.

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That's like if you are a standup and your opener is shit.

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I don't have faith that minute three is going to get good.

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You don't open with shit if you have something better.

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Yeah.

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And that's what Alex is doing.

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He's a standup who's doing a terrible set over and over and over again.

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So in this next clip from the 26th, Alex talks about how he, you know, you know, he talks

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to Trump.

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I mean, not anymore, but he did talk to Trump for a bit.

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He's talked to Trump.

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Okay.

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So in this next clip, Alex says what they talked about the last time they talked.

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And man, this is crazy.

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And I said, sir, it's because you're better than them.

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You're self-made.

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They're from the political class.

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They're all dishonorable.

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They're all two faced.

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You just have to understand you're not dealing in real estate anymore.

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He goes, I know, I know, Alex, we'll keep it up.

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We'll be talking a lot more soon.

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I don't care about being patted on the head.

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I said, Mr. President, you don't need to call me anymore.

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All you do is have your people watch my show and listen to my show when I do an emergency

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message to you.

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And I need you to watch him.

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He said he will.

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And he does.

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Why do you think you want to get rid of certain people in the White House?

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Certain people like Miller and others.

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So that's why I think that one of the people he's pretending he talked to might have been

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Stephen Miller, because he specifically is implying that Miller watches his show.

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Certain people.

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Yeah.

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And you know what?

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If anyone does, it would be him, I guess.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He's the most vociferous and evil asshole I can think of.

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But in his evilness, I still think he's smarter than to think Alex knows anything.

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Oh, yeah.

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I could see Stephen Miller wanting to use Alex in some way, but not respecting him.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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I think that he could see him as a useful idiot and maybe a fellow traveler in their

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racism and white ethno-state creating, but I can't imagine...

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I think that Stephen Miller would hear the Soros documents and be like, get the fuck

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out of here.

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That sort of thing.

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I don't know.

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He's also one of the...

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I don't know.

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I don't know where we are with him on the stupid v. evil continuum, you know?

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I just think that anybody...

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I find it hard to believe anyone would believe Alex, quite frankly.

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Yeah, I agree.

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Maybe I'm blinded by that.

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That I just think that Stephen Miller is a person.

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The president said in front of thousands of people that a mother and the doctor get together

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to decide whether or not to kill a baby.

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Everybody.

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All bets are off for what people might believe.

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Yeah, fair enough.

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All bets.

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You might be right.

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I'm just really shocked at the magnanimous gesture Alex gave to say that Donald Trump

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didn't need to call him anymore.

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That was just so big of him.

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Because a lot of people, if they had the direct ear of the president, they would want to talk

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all the time.

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Hey, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, you don't need to call me anymore, but please watch

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my show.

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Get your staff to watch my show.

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All right, Alex.

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That actually kind of feels like it might be a sincere feeling that it has.

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I don't need to talk to you as long as I indoctrinate you or something along those lines.

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So Twitter was abuzz not too long ago about the idea that Alex was teaming up with QAnon.

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And we heard earlier him bringing up, like, I'm leaving these breadcrumbs, these sort

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of evocative phrases that hearken to QAnon.

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There are glimmers of that.

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But everyone made a bit of a classic mistake, which I think I cautioned people about.

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And that was that Alex is not teaming up with QAnon.

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He can't because QAnon hates him, which is an important variable to think.

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Even if Alex warms up to QAnon, QAnon specifically doesn't like Alex.

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I did not know that.

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Which he brings up in this next clip.

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Massive arrest.

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They're beginning.

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The roll up has begun.

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The grand juries are open.

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I'll say this, too.

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I've been around 24 years.

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President Trump came on my show and said, your reputation is amazing.

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I will not let you down.

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No one knows who QAnon is.

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It's a bunch of people on 4chan and 8chan.

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It says some good things.

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It says some bad things.

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But even after I've tried to be nice to 4chan and 8chan and the whole Q thing, it comes

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out and says Jones is a Zionist shill.

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He's going to get arrested.

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All this crap.

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Trump's daughter is married to a Orthodox Jew.

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Trump is pro-Israel.

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But you guys don't attack him because he's too big a target.

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But see that paradox of Q becoming anti-Semitic?

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That's not the real Q.

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If Q was ever real, we don't need a bunch of anti-Semitic crap, a bunch of anti-Israel

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stuff.

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That's a diversion.

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So, yeah, I mean, it's a jumbled mess.

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But Alex doesn't like QAnon because QAnon doesn't like him.

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So even if they can find common cause in terms of, you know, putting forth the argument that

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there's a bunch of arrests coming, Hillary is going to get locked up.

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You know, there is overlap to some of it.

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And Alex would never allow QAnon to hate him and be on the same team as him.

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His ego wouldn't allow it.

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And there is the problem, of course, of authenticity.

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Whereas, Alex, you can hear him being like, you know, Trump has come on my show.

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My reputation's amazing.

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Who are you?

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No one knows who you are.

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And that bleeds into this next clip where he complains more about QAnon.

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I mean, what do you think's going on here?

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But the idea, again, how I'm being attacked from the rear by so-called QAnon.

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That's how I started going after QAnons.

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They were attacking me.

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Again, who is QAnon?

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Oh, let's all just crush some anonymous thing that lays out breadcrumbs and says, as we

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all go, we all go and all this stuff.

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And I'm like, OK, fine.

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So you hear it there.

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Alex used the term breadcrumbs.

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He's keenly aware that that is a piece of QAnon.

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It's so sad.

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Hold on.

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Just leave me alone.

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Let me go out and be a real person in the field, in the arena, and it just doesn't stop.

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And so, again, the question of QAnon, whoever it is, whatever groups that magically have

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I could pose as QAnon online, start a website.

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You're starting to get it and say whatever I wanted.

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It's crazy.

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It's nuts.

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We have the real people on.

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We have the Colonel Schaeffer's on.

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We have the Ron Paul and Rand Paul's on.

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We have the Eric Bollings on.

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We have, you know, Tucker Carlson, we're fighting the globalists.

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We're for real.

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We're getting an effect.

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You know our name.

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You know who my daddy is, my mama is.

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You've seen them deplatform us.

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You've seen them come after us.

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And Q is just a secret critic.

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So that should sort of give you a sense of, like, I still think there's a dangerous confluence

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of the two of them.

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And, like, the rhetoric overlapping can be pretty bad.

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I think it's a negative net effect.

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But the possibility of the two sort of audiences merging and the idea of Alex Ever being like,

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Q is legit, we gotta fucking go on board with this, it's never going to happen because of

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the ego.

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Like, it's just impossible.

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Well, it struck me that it's been a long time since I've heard such a long clip of Alex

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just whining.

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That was...

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Well, that might be because of the clips I choose.

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Yeah, exactly.

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That's entirely because of the clips you choose.

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That's not a foreign thing to me.

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No, of course not.

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But it's just like, God, you're such a whiny little...

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Yeah, he's a baby.

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Quit it.

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He's a loser little titty baby.

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I was on there first and I saw the dog and nobody tells me what to do.

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It's not a good look.

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Jesus, that's sad.

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It's a bad look.

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It's a bad look for him because he's supposed to be like an alpha guy who's right about

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everything.

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It doesn't work.

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No, it's pathetic.

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This next clip is not pathetic.

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And I think it's Alex...

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You should just be doing FM radio.

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Yeah.

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We are the InfoWarm.

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I am the vaunted dread of perverts, communists, and globalists, and Hollywood trash everywhere.

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I am the hated, the dreaded villain to the left, patriot, and brother-in-arms.

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To those who just love freedom and common sense, I'm Alex Jones.

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This is a little bit of guitar right here.

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Yeah.

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There's nothing.

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God, if he was...

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There's nothing not to like about that.

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If he had a radio show at like 2 a.m. in some small college town and he didn't have any

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larger political ambitions, he'd be amazing.

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I am the scourge of perverts, friend of patriots.

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I am the villain, Alex Jones, and I hear some guitar.

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That was a little bit of that guitar.

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God damn it.

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It's those moments that are like, that's good radio.

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That is great.

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I mean, it's so few and far between.

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Legitimately great.

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It's so...

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I would say under like a half a percent of what he does, and the rest of it doesn't come

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close to making up for it.

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But I love those sorts of moments, because that's the kind of thing you don't hear on

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other sorts of shows.

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Like, if you listen to Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity's radio shows, there's no moments

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where they have that humanity of like, fucking listen to that guitar.

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Or like that one way back, that's Randy Rhoads right there.

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Yeah, that's right.

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That sort of shit.

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That's right.

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Like, ah, that's a...

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And I think, honestly, we can laugh and enjoy that kernel of that moment, but on some level

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it makes it worse.

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It makes the bad things he says so much worse, because there is the humanity that sort of

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shines through in moments like that, of like aesthetically liking music.

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There's more of his individual personality that's allowed to exist on the show than so

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many other political talk shows, which makes it kind of feel like when he says, Muslims

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can't ever be over 10% in a population, it's coming from a person, as opposed to it being

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like a political talk show, which makes it damning, I think.

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I think the humanity damns him.

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Yeah.

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You think so?

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And that's kind of why I like to play moments like that, because I think it makes it worse.

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To me, it sounds like he's a fanboy, you know?

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This sounds very...

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This sounds very Gamergate kind of situation, where it's like, listen to the way he talks

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about that, listen to the way he talks about the highwaymen and certain movies, and he's

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just got that kind of like joy towards collecting something that is underappreciated, that kind

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of thing.

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And then that is part of that like funneling into that hard rights white nationalism.

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But fine, even if that's the case, then that fandom or whatever is still humanizing on

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some level.

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Right.

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I think the only argument is that him being presented as a person can be funny because

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of the seismic shift in tone, but it also makes it worse, because then it's a person

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who's saying the things that he's saying.

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That's more my point.

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So Alex talks a whole bunch about how Trump is going to lock her up, which, I mean, whatever.

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Of course.

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Yeah, sure.

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Fine.

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He plays a ton of that Hannity interview.

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He played for about an hour, at least of his show.

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He plays that Hannity interview and then he says this, which is kind of funny considering.

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And so their whole attempted criminal operation is going down in giant flames and we just

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laid all that out in the last hour.

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I know that I can't prove this to you without playing the last hour of the show.

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He did not lay all that out.

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He just played the Hannity interview with Trump.

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I'm going to trust you on this one.

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He did.

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I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt.

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He's coming out to commercial and he's saying, you know, we laid it all out in the last hour.

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And he's like, no, you just played a softball propaganda interview with Trump sitting down

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with Sean Hannity.

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That's not laying it all out.

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You didn't prove anything.

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I think that's, I don't know.

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I think that's funny.

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Maybe it fell flat a little bit in the room.

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Well, we would need the full hour in order to get the... I'm sorry.

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So in this next clip, Alex-

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Show, not tell.

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That's all I'm saying.

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Well, all right.

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Our next episode's going to be six hours long.

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I would just play Alex playing an interview from Hannity.

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That would be surreal.

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It would be a pain in the ass.

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That would be awful.

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So in this next clip, Alex likes to talk about how Trump is giving up a lot in order to be

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president, like his businesses are suffering and those sorts of things.

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Sure.

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But I think here in this clip, Alex makes a pretty compelling case that Trump is profiting

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off the presidency.

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I'd stay there all over again just to thumb in the nose the establishment because Max

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Kaiser was in there and all these other cool people, you want to see the bar scene of conservatives

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and liberals and media matters and BuzzFeed sneaking around in there, go have cocktails

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or go in there at happy hour or in the evening at Trump Hotel in D.C. and it is wild.

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It's a super nice hotel on top of it.

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I love the whole motif.

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Do you think that might have something to do with his job?

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I love that black on white marble and blue on it and just the whole setup is exactly

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my style.

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My wife wanted to remodel the house and I said, yeah, let's do it like this.

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She goes, oh, I like that.

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I said, yeah, let's go with the Trump Hotel look.

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Go for the living room and dining room.

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But I'm digressing, my friends.

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You certainly are.

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Boy, that's sad.

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Take your face out of his butt, Christ.

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That's insanely bootlickery, like to a level that most don't even dare approach.

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The idea of like, yeah, his hotel's aesthetic is so good, I'm going to make my house like

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it.

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My wife said it's great.

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I said, yeah, the Trump Hotel look.

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Yeah, I mean, before that, he is pretty much expressing the idea that this bar in this

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hotel has become a hotspot of people to stay at and it's because he's the president.

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He's profiting off that.

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Right.

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So we also didn't need the, so the whole 25th Amendment, that's out.

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Nobody's doing that.

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So the emoluments clause, that's out.

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Nobody's bothering with that.

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Doing crimes, nobody's bothering with just the regular doing crimes laws.

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In terms of like profiting off it, like Alex is one of his most ardent supporters and he

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argues very consistently that Trump doesn't profit off the presidency, but in that clip

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he's laying out a very clear argument that he is.

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Absolutely.

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He just doesn't give a shit.

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Nope.

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Alex doesn't give a shit.

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Nope.

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So we have one last clip.

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Nobody likes the Constitution, Dan.

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It's a bummer.

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Especially people who love the Constitution.

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Especially people.

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Nobody likes, yeah.

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So in this next and last clip from the 26th, oh, I should say why there's only one more

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clip because Alex, for about a fucking hour of the show, plays a Hannity interview.

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And then for another 40 minutes of the episode, he plays an interview he did with Eric Bolling

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from The Blaze.

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So he was really phoning this one in.

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Well, there's a nice parallel to-

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Did he need to go into the office that day?

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There's a parallel to the 2013 stuff that we're looking at, this very interesting thing

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where the past and the present have weird intersections, and that is, at the end of

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this week, the 25th and 26th, Alex seems to be real into the idea of his intersections

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with other media figures.

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So whether it's, I talked to Max Keiser at the Trump Hotel, or I did an interview with

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Eric Bolling, or Trump did this interview with Sean Hannity and he's saying a lot of

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similar stuff to me, there's the same thing with Alex being obsessed for a week back in

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the past of he went on Piers Morgan's show.

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So there is a little bit of a naval gazing grind that Alex is in.

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So there's not a whole lot.

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But on the 26th, he says this, and this is like, again, in the same way we were talking

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about earlier, this is so overtly awful that it's inexcusable.

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Even the local officials in LA and in New York City have to admit it's illegal aliens

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spreading the measles and pertussis whooping cough, but it doesn't matter.

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People that have had the vaccines are getting it.

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So they're saying, oh, get another shot.

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Well, wait, I got one a year ago.

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The vaccines are scams.

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They don't protect you.

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They're Trojan horses for other things.

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But the point is you bring in illegals from collapsed, several countries, they're going

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to spread the real thing.

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The truth is running water and hygiene had eradicated these things.

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Now we bring in the third one is back.

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But then even Trump comes out and says, we need to all take measles shots.

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No, we need to stop illegal aliens that are not even being screened.

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I will say, and Alex.

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Is he literally saying that immigrants bring and carry diseases?

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Yeah.

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And that so long as we don't have immigrants and we just wash our hands, there will be

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no diseases?

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Oh, I don't know.

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But I wanted to say in fairness to Alex, but I mean the opposite.

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He is mad at Trump about this, about Trump saying people should get their shots, which

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at least is internally consistent with his lies and stupidity, I guess.

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But I want to make this perfectly clear before I get into any information here.

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What Alex Jones just did in that last clip is a style of propaganda that would have been

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right at home in the Third Reich, claiming that immigrants and asylum seekers are spreading

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disease and causing outbreaks is a time tested way to dehumanize a population in such a way

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as to treat them like things with no rights while maintaining the comfortable illusion

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that you're only killing them because if you don't, they'll get your community sick.

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This is something that we've seen in history, never at good times.

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Yeah.

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Now, in terms of information, there are no experts who are saying that the current upticks

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we're seeing in measles and whooping cough are due to immigrants coming in who are spreading

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the disease.

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Nazis and white nationalists online are spreading memes saying that, but any epidemiologist

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or researcher at the CDC will tell you very clearly that these outbreaks are the result

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of people not getting their children vaccinated.

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And I will tell you that they aren't getting their children vaccinated because they believe

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the bullshit people like Alex Jones and Donald Trump have been telling them for years.

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The substance of what Alex is saying here doesn't even deserve discussion.

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It's a soft plea to ethnic cleansing, and it's not even the first such plea Alex has

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made in this episode of our show.

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This sort of rhetoric deserves condemnation, denunciation, and to be remembered the next

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time a white nationalist terrorist commits an act motivated by fears about immigration.

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Rhetoric like this allows those fears to feel real and to feel pressing, and it allows the

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response of murder to feel justified.

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Whether it's packaged as arguments that once Muslims make up 10% of the population, then

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they attack, or if it comes in the form of arguments that refugees from Central America

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are causing outbreaks by coming to the country, no matter the particular shape it takes on

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any given day, the message underneath is the same.

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People who are not like you are a threat to you and your rightful future to sit atop an

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unbalanced ethnic power structure.

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It really bothers me and it bums me out, but when we hear like two different pitches to

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ethnic cleansing within a two-day span on his show, two things that are really reminiscent

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of propaganda that gets people killed.

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It's really, really hard for me to step back and like maintain my position that this is

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somehow a coincidence and somehow he's just so stupid he doesn't realize the sort of things

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that he's saying.

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Like, oh, maybe his researchers, they know and he's being fooled.

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I don't know, that veneer falls away at a certain point.

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See, I'm a huge fan of the First Amendment.

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Just want to get that out there, huge fan, longtime lover, first time talker.

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Can you do that?

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Can you call for ethnic cleansing on a public radio show?

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Is that okay?

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I feel like you can't do that.

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That might be why he's on the side of the line that he is, is I think that probably

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you can't.

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I think that probably is on the wrong side of free speech, but it's not on the wrong

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side of free speech necessarily to say these things that are inspirational to quote unquote

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lone wolf attackers.

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To say these sorts of things to make people feel like it's a ticking time bomb until there

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are enough Muslims around that they will hurt you.

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To say that every one of these immigrants that's coming in is a potential carrier of

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smallpox.

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We are concerned about the idea of people not getting vaccinated leading to the reemergence

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of things like polio and smallpox, but if you take Alex's rhetoric, every single person

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who's coming here illegally is a potential for that to come.

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If you introduce these ideas to your audience, then you know that there's some percentage

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of them who are going to rightfully interpret that as you saying that these people existing

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is a threat to you.

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I just don't see, I mean, I guess there has to be a legal, yeah, I mean, there is a difference

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between justifying ethnic cleansing and calling for ethnic cleansing.

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I get that, but it feels like you can't have one without the other, and if we were to get

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rid of the justifying part, we wouldn't have the calling for it part.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I'm not a constitutional lawyer, so I don't know.

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Well, apparently it doesn't really matter anyways.

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Yeah.

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So, I mean, this bums me out, and it makes me pretty mad because I see a deterioration

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in the present day, and I don't mean of his mental state or anything like that.

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I see a quickening and a rapidness downward in terms of how dangerous the things he's

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saying are.

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When we talked about it, I think it was maybe a week or so ago, when he was talking about

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the drag queen bingo, or not bingo, reading, the drag queen story at time, when he was

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talking about that being like they want to take your kids and they want to, they're vampires

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and they're only trying to acclimate your children, so they can kidnap them later.

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And then an hour later, he has a caller who says, I think I should be able to go in and

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shoot them.

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Just take one into the parking lot and kill them, like that sort of thing.

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Like he doesn't bat an eyelash.

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And then in subsequent episodes, he continues with the rhetoric that he was saying about

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the drag queen story time.

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So like when we have stuff like that, you just, you recognize, like, it's hard to phrase

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it any other way than just like, it doesn't seem like he cares.

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No.

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He doesn't care that a caller literally said, I should be able to kill these people.

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And it's reinforced by the rhetoric that he, Alex, has said on the show and continues to

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say, I don't, I don't, I don't know what to do.

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Like I don't, I really don't.

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I don't know.

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I mean, in terms of our show, I just, we keep doing what we do, but like, I don't, I don't,

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I don't, I've become very uncomfortable with where this is like legal.

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This shouldn't be legal.

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This shouldn't be legal.

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It shouldn't be legal.

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That's what I was trying to express.

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Yeah.

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And I don't, I don't know, I don't know where the line is, but I feel we're past it.

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I think we're good.

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I think we're well, I think we're well and truly past it.

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I do not know how to end this episode at all.

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I'm not feeling super optimistic.

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I don't want to succumb to despair, but I think a lot of this stuff looks real bad.

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And part of the reason why I feel a little bit more gloomy than usual is probably because

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of the fucking neighbors keeping me up all weekend.

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But I think that there's a possibility for moving forward positively, but man, every

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time I'm forced to listen to hours of Alex in the present day, it just, man, man, this

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show is bad.

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This show is dangerous.

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Like beneath the surface of the like sort of extensible political talk and like Trump

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is awesome kind of stuff, these soft pitches to ethnic cleansing being buried in there

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are really, really fucking troubling.

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And I just, I just don't know how to, I don't know how to not take that as seriously as

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it deserves to be treated.

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And then I also, I just don't know how to respond appropriately to it.

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Like I've never thought about that.

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I've never thought about being in a position where like I see what if left to its own devices

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could easily spiral into, all right, Muslims aren't allowed to breed.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't know what to say to that other than go fuck yourself.

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I just never, I never expected that I'd be in a position where someone would be expressing

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that sort of thing.

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And maybe I'll be better at it next time, but for now let's end this so I don't ramble

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more about how I don't know what to say about this.

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We got a website.

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We do have a website.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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That's right.

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We're also on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight at go to bed Jordan.

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We are on Facebook.

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We are on Facebook.

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Um, iTunes.

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You can find us, you could download the show.

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Yeah.

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You could go to the website.

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We're on a lot of places I'm finding out we're on a lot of, uh, uh, like podcast aggregators

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and stuff like that.

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Oh yeah.

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So there's a lot of people who probably listen to us on apps and stuff like that that I don't

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even fucking know exist.

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So some of that is just how podcasting works, uh, with like 2019.

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Sure.

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There's a bunch of places, but also I appreciate people.

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There are a couple of folks who brought it to our attention that, uh, that, uh, Lumosity

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or whatever.

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Yeah, I saw that.

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Uh, Luminity or whatever the fuck, uh, had put our stuff up there and I appreciate the

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heads up.

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I've sent them an email saying, well, you don't want to be on there.

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We'll see.

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We'll see if they care.

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Who cares?

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Uh, but I appreciate people looking out and I also apologize, uh, that I have no idea

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how any of you listen to our show.

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I know about three things that exist.

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One of them is iTunes.

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I was super stoked about finding Overcast guys.

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I know.

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That's the second one I know exists because you've brought it up.

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Don't know anything else.

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But if you listen on other platforms, thank you very much.

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We appreciate it.

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I just don't know they exist.

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Leave a review there.

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Sure.

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Um, but we'll be back, uh, next time.

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But until then, Max Kaiser offered Alex Jones $10,000 in Bitcoin, but I have no evidence

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he's ever killed anybody.

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Uh, one guy who has, uh, technically probably killed somebody is the guy who turned down

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$50 million and that's Alex Jones.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.