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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight

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I'm Dan. I'm Chuck. We're couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Joe

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Oh indeed. We are Dan. Yes, sir

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Mm-hmm. What was the last time you smoked a cigar Lester? Oh, that is a great question

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Thank you. I don't think

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The answer is never moving on. It's terrible question forever. It's been forever

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The only reason I ever used or bought cigars would be chopping up make a blunt, you know

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Get a white owl swisher. There you go. Make a blunt out of it. But hold on there. Hold on there too. Cool for school

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a Garcia Vega go down there

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No, I I don't I've never been a big cigar guy. I started smoking with a pipe because I was very pretentious

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Oh, yeah, you know I did the same thing in high school like a couple of my friends started smoking and I was like well

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I want to join you but I'm also above this. Yes. Yes, of course

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so I got a Sherlock Holmes pipe and it was gross and I always associated pipes and

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Cigars being similar in the way that you don't really inhale. It's more of a mouth thing. It's kind of gross

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I never really got much of a charge out of it

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So I don't know I've I've probably smoked three actual cigars in my life and I was faking it every day. Yeah. Yeah

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Yeah, I think your scar boy. I think the last time I had a cigar where I was like

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You know what?

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I'm gonna fucking smoke this cigar and not one of those where you light it up and you're like

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I've already done this wrong and I throw it away that kind of thing

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it was at my friend's wedding and I remember being out in the back of this like a

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courtyard area and

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My friend's wife's dad his his new father-in-law came up to me and started saying some really creepy shit to me. Yeah

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like what um

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He told me way too much about what he knew about his daughter's previous sex life. Ooh

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Yeah that version of creepy. Yeah

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You know, you know what a human tastes

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Hey, you want to see a dead body sort of a sort of a past

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Implication creepy as opposed to a you want to get into something right? Right. I'm not sure which would be better both are bad

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Well scars not you wanna start an underground fight club at this wedding. Do you want to get in there?

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That's it could be a revenue revenue stream

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We're talking about that before the show

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No, I don't know scars suck

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But what doesn't suck nice is our donors like take a second here to give a shout out to a couple of new people

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Thank you very much Luke T. Finally like to

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You get two in a row you just it rolls off the tongue finally

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He's a loser little little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I don't know Jesus Christ

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Something we need to do before this show starts is I want to say we've started an underground fight club at this wedding

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I would not be I don't want to do that. Okay, I got last job

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Okay behind this beard. All right fight fight fight

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Look, we've been doing this show for two years and I have never received the amount of negative feedback

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That we got from our last episode about how it was. I'm sorry. I forgot it's not jumbo

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Wamba, we need to give an apology to jumbo Wamba. We implied that they had fascist leanings

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Yep, turns out that we had mixed up in our minds because jumbo Wamba apparently are anarchist

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Types right rare and we were thinking of ace of base. Yeah, and we just completely fucked up

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Yeah, yeah apologies to jumbo Wamba. I've always defended you as being better than just tub thumping

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There was a song I get knocked down, but I go. Oh, I thought that was the name of the album

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I'd also the name of the album. Okay. Well, the album wasn't terrible. No, I think overall was pretty good

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Anyway, we don't need to go this far into it. We just say apologies that we

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Seriously jumbo Wamba very triggered. Oh fuck yourself ace of base

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Yes, apologies to jumbo Wamba our audience took that very poorly. I don't know what how we fostered this

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But that was

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That was a deluge

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People who are like, hey, I don't know if you realize this

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pretty cool

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Sorry, sorry

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Anyway, I enjoy interacting and I don't mind people correcting us when we're wrong. It's just so funny that this is the thing

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Realize that the Venn diagram between rabid jumbo Wamba fans and knowledge my fans was so strong. I'm cool with that

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I don't know

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So Jordan today we are in the past. We are going to the past and thankfully we are out of March now

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We are into April. So today's episode will cover April 1st and 2nd

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2009 which is very exciting

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There's a couple things in this that I I take great pleasure in being able to go over and some things that I think are

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Lame as hell, but we can laugh at it'll be a good time. Let's see how it goes

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So we begin on April Fool's Day my man April 1st

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I always love tuning in for an April Fool's Day episode of Alex's show

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Because I mean we heard it on Friday's episode. You're gonna need to sell this really?

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Well, he clearly pulled a prank on Owen Schroyer on our last show. I really I get why we consider that a prank

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I think that Alex is not involved in. No, he's not a humorist. I think he has a playful streak to him

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I think he has a cantankerous little

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Trouble maker inside him and so I always think that April Fool's Day is gonna bring it out of him

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And I always think I listen to the I've listened to like four or five April Fool's Day episodes

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I was hoping for a prank or something and it never fucking happens and it doesn't happen today

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God damn it, but instead we do get to learn about what's happening in the right-wing media sphere outside of info war

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Okay, that's nice. I think it's very interesting. It's good to check in on them

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Ann Coulter has endorsed congressman Ron Paul for 2012

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She says she supports him on quote every issue

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Of course, she and others attacked him during the campaign see

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This is what they were doing back when we could have stopped the New World Order and it could have been done with getting Ron

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Paul elected I

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Mean, yeah, we're unable to assassinate

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We could

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Federalized the Federal Reserve it's not federal now. We could have reversed all this

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he was right about it all covering the New World Order just like we were covering in here going off the globalist own documents and

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And now Ann Coulter is endorsing Ron Paul Fox News has him on every other day

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CNN has him on constantly and they're trying to act like they're with the American people against the bankers when they're owned by the bankers

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Controlled opposition these guys all are I get it. Yep. So Alex is starting to see a lot

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Okay

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Alex is starting to see a lot of his rhetoric creeping into the right-wing media

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Oh that entire world that he has always seen himself in opposition to right

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He's starting to see his narratives being mirrored there

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He saw it earlier with Glenn Beck and sort of thought that was an isolated case

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But now as the Tea Party becomes more out and out in public

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I mean, we're a month and a half past the original like huge push. Yeah, the Tea Party's all over the country

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Yeah, so as it starts to grow we've are we've already heard indications that

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Glenn Beck's got his 912 movement starting the pieces are starting to fall into place and Alex is seeing a lot of

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His shit his laundry is being aired, but he doesn't like who's doing that laundry right as Fox News

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Gradually came to terms with the black president. They realized that it was time to start sounding like Alex Jones

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I don't know what exactly the reason is. But yeah, who knows if that's why we need a bigger boat

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Maybe you know that sort of thing. Yeah, it's like we have this black president

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We're super afraid of and our piss-ass shit isn't going to work

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Stupid suit. Nah, let's how about we be out now racist and we need a secret government as the boat or whatever

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Yeah, Alex's globalist sort of what would you call it like?

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The skeleton of a house in order to build this the framework need the girders that Alex has. Yeah

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Yeah, whatever whatever propaganda Fox News is gonna try and pull isn't gonna fly. They don't have the foundation in place

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And Alex has been working for 15 18 years at this point building that fucking foundation

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Right because what Fox News had to realize like what they had to do what they realized they had to do was one

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Illegitimize a black president and say that he can't actually be president because he's black

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I blah blah blah blah whatever else other reasons they want to make up but he's also he has to be all-powerful

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and a

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Tyrant well while at the same time being ineffectual and non-existent

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They realize the effectiveness of that half-sick half-alive

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Dichotomy, which Alex been Alex has been doing that through the bush years

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They were they were just a mouthpiece like they are now but Alex has been there from the beginning. Yeah. Yeah

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Yeah, there's a there's an interesting thing and I mean who knows how much that is intentional at all

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Like I'm I wouldn't come out here and say that Fox News

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Looked at Alex and said let's get us some of that or anything like that

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It could be pure coincidence that just how do we make this more extreme? Oh, here's a possibility

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It doesn't mean that they're ripping off Alex, but Alex sees it for sure as he's being ripped off

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Yeah, it's more like it the American public saw what Alex was doing and was like I want me some of that

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But I don't want Alex to be giving it to me

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You know supply and demand there was a demand for non Alex Alex, yeah Fox News kind of somehow a

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Megyn Kelly a blonde white woman spouting bigotry just

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Yeah, so I'm interested to track how this goes but I'm sure it's just going to be Alex's mad about everything but interestingly on this

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Same episode here on April 1st where Alex realizes sort of the Fox News the CNN

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I don't know. I lump against CNN there. I think this might be back when Glenn Beck was on CNN

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I think that's possible. Yeah, he was on headline news

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But look man the the thing is on this same episode

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Alex does something that I have not heard him do ever and this is a seismic moment in

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Alex Jones research because this is a turning point

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Openly and publicly

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even the mainstream news

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funded by George Soros

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whoa

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nation and others

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Just like they funded the weathermen

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Interestingly he had a harder time making that argument when Bill Ayers of the weather underground was in studio

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He said I don't know. What the fuck are you talking about?

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Alex had no information to back up his claims of all these

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Nefarious organizations funding them but we have never heard Alex say something that overt about Soros being a boogeyman

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Puppet master. Oh, yeah, so mark it down in your calendars

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April 1st, 2009 is the first time in our in our travels that we have heard that that's as

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as

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Early as we can find for one Soros begins now

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It's interesting to me the way he phrases it because it whenever he's talked about these big bad guys before we've heard it a hundred

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Times it's the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds Rockefeller Foundation

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They're the ones doing it this phrasing is very familiar to me and present and further down the line sort of linguistic patterns

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But Soros Ford Foundation and others that is new to me. I don't know if it means anything

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I'm not entirely sure I need to give it some more examination

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Do you mean that particular phrasing phrasing of it that clustering? Yeah

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Yeah

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And the the way that he rolls those as a one two three are the ones who are doing it that we've heard now a million

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Times yes, and but the way I would expect it to come out if he's adding Soros into it would be Soros

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Rockefeller's

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Rockefeller Foundation or even the Rockefellers the Rothschilds and Soros now

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Soros takes front and center right away, right and part of this could be a blip in the radar

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It's entirely possible because George Soros did come out and do an interview that I I think it was ill-advised

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Because the propaganda that could be made about it when he was talking about how he was having a great recession

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Because of the bets that he'd made right right, you know, he was like I did call a bunch of stuff

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He's still a billionaire. Oh fuck it. Go fuck himself. Yeah. Yeah cause the recession. He didn't do anything evil

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It was just you shouldn't have said that George sort of thing

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and then the other thing too is he was caught he he

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He had a lot of feelings about the g20 and how it was one of the last

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Opportunities to save the global economy and that sort of thing and so he was in the news around g20

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2009 so I also considered the possibility that this isn't where the George Soros is evil

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Boogeyman kind of thing narrative starts. This is just a reaction to him showing up in the news for a bit

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I think so, but it's weird. Yeah, it's very weird. The the Soros Ford Foundation combo there is weird

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it just

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Throwing him in as as a lead player. Yeah is weird, but I don't know. We'll see what transpires

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He he's Alex it's got a lot of feelings about g20 and one of the things about them is something we already discussed in

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2009 episodes there's actually 18 secretly those two of those countries don't even exist. Yeah shadow countries

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So Alex has been real hot and bothered about the the g20 summit over there in England

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You know, he's been making a big deal out of how Obama's gonna go and meet with the Queen

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Oh lying about all that stuff in a bowing bowing bow like a cock

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And then, you know, the g20 stuff his big main point is that these g20 protesters?

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They're all apparently paid by Soros, right?

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They're all fake opposition to the g20 in order to discredit real opposition to the g20

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Which is him right in his consent and only him only him and Ron Paul, I guess yes

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Those are the only people who have it right everybody else is a bunch of posers and Johnny come lately is or something like that

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Oh, they're all a bunch of Ann Coulter's couldn't they just be like regular anarchists though?

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I mean they could be but Alex doesn't believe so and there's one way he knows that they're not regular anarchists

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And that is they don't fit the physical description of all real anarchists

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One has to see it to believe it. I have experienced it

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Come on, let's riot. Let's do something. Oh shoving on people. It's too giant

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It's too giant six foot five six foot six guys in ski mask and a real

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Anarchist weighs about 110 pounds has zips all over on their own methamphetamine. That's true

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And they're always led by, you know foundation

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Handlers unleashes who are wearing the guard, but they're always openly marxist and will say get back jones will soon kill you

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You ever see that in austin?

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We believe in copies like that's right. They work with us and we're taking america over. I don't think we do you're dead

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He thought he had intimidated me some little pot-bellied

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red bearded commie

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I thought he's an anarchist take your best shot commie

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No, no, you misunderstood the story. This is a different a chubby red bearded commie slash marxist

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Yeah is out there and he is the one who's leading the uh emaciated

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Anarchists or something. No the fake anarchist fake anarchists who are very large or large. Yeah

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Large yeah, and so he talks to the leader who was the red bearded pot-bellied, uh marxist and he's like, yeah

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I know I know the foundation. I know we're going to kill you. I don't believe any of this

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I don't I don't understand anybody who would do any of the actions that he said. Nope

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I do understand it in the context of trolling. Yeah, if someone was fucking with alex, I

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Understand that entirely for sure. But yeah that that unfolding is a real series of events. I just can't I can't go for that

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Yeah, yeah, of course young santa claus is going to uh, troll alex all day. Yeah

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So, uh nonsense alex, uh, but you know

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Why does he think anarchists weigh 110 pounds?

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I guess he met one

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Is that a stereotype that none of us knew about that? Oh, yeah, you know, oh this guy

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He looks like a real anarchist over there with his zits and his meth

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I don't think it's a real stereotype in any way

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But I think it has to just be proof of alex having met one anarchist and he thinks they're all like that or maybe two

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Maybe he met an anarchist couple that were real svelte and maybe smoked meth and he's like, oh, that's what they all are like

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Yep. Yep. So that's a lot of uh, his he has steve watson on for a really sleepy g20 update

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And I just don't want to listen to that at all

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They're basically just saying that all the pictures you see of like protesters bloodied and stuff like that all fake. That's okay

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That's paint. That's not even blood. It's all that's all show acting. Let's just paint

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I mean get like get some pig's blood or something like sell it. Meanwhile point of order a dude died

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Uh, that wasn't fake at all. Yeah, uh

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False flag

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So that's most of the g20 stuff because alex gets distracted a bit a bit of the way through the show

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By uh tv coverage of obama showing up at buckingham palace

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Uh-huh, and alex is just doing his british voice all over the place. Of course. He's having a great time talking about

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Oh, that's so fancy. Oh

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All that stuff

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Then he decides he's gonna blow everyone's mind

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If you don't believe me get a pen and paper out i'm gonna tell this right?

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I have one not to be gross or not to be silly or not to be python-esque

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Sounds like you're gonna be all three, you know, uh, saturday night live. This is real

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This is real. In fact, I even they've even made a joke about it. Uh, they had that thing called. Mr

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Show on hbo where they're treating the guy as royalty and they're wiping his hind in for him in the restaurant

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He doesn't have to leave the table

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Uh, we ought to pull that skit up online or something, but the point is why?

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And we've got deep research on this

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They still have their butts wiped for them

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Now if you don't believe me you google groom of the stool, you cannot make this up

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Are we doing this again?

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Mainstream

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University websites mainstream news articles. It's called the groom of the stool

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I am not going to bore our listeners with a discussion of why alex is wrong about this and how it ended

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uh centuries ago the practice of uh, the the groom of the stool which was a

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Respected position because it wasn't so much just wiping uh, the queen's ass or the king's ass

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or the king's ass. It was a close advisory position

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He had to be someone had to be with the the royal at all times and all that back then

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Um, sometimes you wipe a little ass along the way that happened. Yeah, sure

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and it doesn't it doesn't exist anymore, but

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Alex is so caught up in the idea that it does and he is so defensive about the idea that people won't believe him

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That he spends at least an hour talking about the groom of the stool

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so

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Not only does he spend an hour on it or so. He also has to call in a bunch of staff to back him up

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It's kind of crazy that he would do that because that sounds exactly like something somebody who was

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110 pounds on meth would start talking about for about an hour. Yeah, it also

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Uh, conversely kind of sounds like a mr. Show sketch

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Broadcaster who is defensive about people not believing him so he brings in his own employees. Yeah

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Yeah, I kind of want to hey, can we bring up that mr. Show sketch? We got to get that one online

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We don't have rights, uh, but in this first clip of that series, uh, alex brings in aaron dykes to talk about this

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Uh, and uh, here's what he's got to say. I mean this is filth. This is the new world order aaron

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I don't we're going live to the scene with you aaron, but our own presidents have their stool guarded by national security forces

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We did we did a deeper study george bush had he he reincorporated grim of the stool because it can also be used to examine

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You know medical weaknesses and he has a special toilet. Don't believe me. Just type president has portable toilet

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And uh, he's got to have it

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Carted around. In fact when he's at big bubble summons they have to cart it around behind state secrets of the stool

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Well, it's all about worshiping then just oh even you know

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You know what? I think some listeners probably don't believe us

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and

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I've looked it up too as you know, uh

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Groom of the stool. Remember when I first told you a few months ago, you guys didn't believe it. You googled it. It's strange

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Yeah, it is strange

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Here's the interesting dynamic that's at play here. Alex is wrong about everything that he's saying. Yeah, aaron dykes is actually right

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The president does like and this is pretty consistent among a lot of heads of state

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They don't let their shit just go anywhere because it is a state secret in some ways

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Because if a foreign hostile leader or whatever were to take their waste

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They could have it analyzed and find out a lot about potential health conditions

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right that could be used to blackmail them or it could be used in some way that could be exploited for uh,

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I don't I don't know what other ways other than blackmail. Um, dan, I think you are missing the number one way to exploit

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I got your shit

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cloning

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Cloning my friend. What if the chinese get a hold of obama's poop use it to clone a new obama accelerate his growth

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As we all know the chinese can do which they've been able to do that since the uh, what 300 bc according to alex

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They do it in cows. That was actually how chin xi huang took over china in the very beginning

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It's also how they built the great wall. Yeah, absolutely cloned obamas

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There is a there is a sensible reason to this that doesn't have to do with like it's about being worshipped

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And then you all need to walk around and wipe my ass

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Or anything like that. It's just uh, you know, there's a logistical thing

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It's like you could you could tell a lot about a person if you just stole their shit. Yeah. No, that's true

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I didn't uh, I I never considered that because uh, I think

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What I would think is uh, come on guys. No, come on guys

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And i'm talking about even to the people who would steal it. It's just like hey, come on to the ne'er do a little decency

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Yeah, a little decency here. Have you no decency? Come on. We're not stealing your poop. So aaron dykes comes in

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And he brings in this george w bush head one and alex is like hey, yeah, he reinstituted the groom of the stool

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Misunderstanding alex is lying about it. Aaron dykes is pretty close to right but they're you know

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They're sort of having a different conversation at the same time and neither of them cares to point out like no

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That's not what we're talking about. Just let it go

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I imagine that's really important to any conversation

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Any of alex's underlings have with him is to always have a different conversation and let whatever his conversation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

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No, no, no, that's great. Yeah, they might as well be in uh in frozen just saying let it go

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Right in the head. I've never seen that. Okay. So at this point after that

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Alex isn't satisfied with aaron dykes, uh back up so he does this

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Let's call jacobson in here. Let's have a discussion

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Rob jacobson, please come in here

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Come in here. Uh

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Just fun to remember. We're just gonna bring in more and more people to confirm, right?

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That somebody wipes the queen's ass also

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It's fun to remember that uh currently rob jacobson has an eeoc complaint against alex

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Alleging that he was grooming him for homosexual sex

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Uh, and that uh, almost everybody at infowars called him, uh, the jew. Yeah, and uh the like that sort of thing. So

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Hey rob

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Sorry, buddy. We're discussing the groom of the stool. Uh, uh, tell the listeners you guys didn't believe me a few months ago

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I told you about it explain to people. This is real. This is real. Uh, aaron did good work rob

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We'll see you later. Get out of here. We read

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At least 10 documents in about 10 minutes

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He would one after the other long reports groom of the stool. They do it

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That is too fast. That's too fast. You didn't read any of those reports then

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um, so suffice it to say this is the

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The picture that I want to present to you of what's important about alex's groom of the stool stuff

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He is so defensive about the idea that people don't believe him and think he's making it up to be gross or funny

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That he has to bring in multiple employees to be like, yeah, man wild crazy

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It's a use it's a way now. He reminds me of coach with his like a

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Series of google hangouts folk being like hey now i'm gonna make mark mad

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But the groom of the stool is real honestly coach has a more efficient system down alex had to call rob into the studio

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into the studio, it's just a waste of time man you see this show and it's like you could be way there's way better way like

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What do you know? I love this talk about something. Uh-uh. I would like this to happen forever

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yeah, you're probably right actually because

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That should just continue because when he starts talking about something else it ends up being kind of racist. God damn it

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You know, you don't see wolves trying to eat grizzly bears

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Wolves go after deer

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They go after mice actually their main diet is rodents

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Uh, they go after little things they can grab they don't go after porcupines. They don't go after

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Toads they don't want for grizzly bears. They don't go after polar bears. They go after rabbits name other animals

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and sheep

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And we are sheep

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The illegal aliens are not to be messed with they're here to bankrupt the economy bankrupt the states drive down the wages

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As part of merging us in the third world only citizens are to be throttled

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squeezed

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dominated bludgeoned controlled pushed to the edge of extinction driven into homelessness put in camps their children taken their

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Cars seized we are here to be raped by the criminal government

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So, okay. There's a couple words that he uses in there that make me think that this might be a race thing. No, come on

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Driven to the point of extinction. No, come on. Dan. What are you talking about?

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Uh, come on

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What I'm talking about is what I feel but I hear that let's just go with more animals. What do wolves go after kangaroos?

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Oh, let's yeah, let's no, let's do this

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Box. Okay, rob Jacobson. I'm gonna need you to confirm get on in here. The the kangaroo is nice with the right

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Nice with the left. Okay, give them the good sweet wolf. Just stay out of Australia entirely

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Yeah, I think so the dingoes or the wolf of Australia from what I understand from jokes

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Yes, many of the facts that I know about Australia are actually

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Jokes, so what Alex is presenting there is basically this conception where the the citizens

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Which we know he means white people. Oh for sure are the what the the government is just feeding off of them

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Whereas the they're breaking the government's the wolves. Yes, they're bringing in the illegal immigrants

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I don't think they're an animal in this metaphor because they don't have to be the bear or something

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Yeah, I thought they're supposed to be like for a porcupine porcupine or something. I don't know

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I don't think they fit in I think it's just about the it's just a

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Animal metaphor and then let's just throw in some racism

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Yes, absolutely, but I think if you could you confronted him with that and you said hey Alex, that sounds mighty racist

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He would say I'm just talking about illegal immigrants. I'm not specifically saying what I mean by that

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It could be immigrants from anywhere any sort of immigrant. I'm not it has nothing to do with that. It could be millennia Trump

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Unfortunately a couple minutes later

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He takes a call and things get a little too overt about what they mean by immigrants

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Lauren in Ohio you're on the air

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Already adding Ohio to the

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Cheer you up a little because I can hear the stress in your voices and that you're let making me crack up with the clean

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Stuff and I'm wondering when you stop bowing down and scraping before men. I'm gonna just real quickly do this

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I hear you talking about the Mexicans. They're above the law. It's not the Mexican

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It's that they're not under the rules codes regulations and statutes by virtue of their voluntary contract

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With I agree. I agree because they are free and of course the license and won't get

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And just thumb their nose the systems just given up because it's powerless unless you acquiesce and you're right. That's why

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Yeah, you got it. You got it. And here's the thing. This is the key and this is why they needed to get the Bible

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Out of the schools and away from the children

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Human man, yeah, we created us out of the dirt

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Yeah, we the land I get it

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You are God get you you are a king of your own land when we came here in this country was developed in my ancestors

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One of them was Raymond Demery. He was aid to camp for Washington and slow

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Down slow down talk it too fast

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Makes me think you might be thin and on methamphetamines

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Like Jesus like take a breath there

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So I don't care about her family history being close to Washington or anything like that

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She's just espousing sovereign citizen free man on the land kind of ideology

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Which we know Alex is super into

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But never wants to use those words or anything like that because he knows the stink that's on them and he knows that he would

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Look like an idiot if you overtly came outside it

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But when a caller who gives that approach sounds like I agree. I love it

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Absolutely. So now they can only do it if you consent to it

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And also tell me more about your ancestor who is an aide to camp to Washington

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Okay, which is a weird humble brag, I guess like she goes on a while. Of course she does

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Oh, but so now we've recontextualized this as the idea is like, okay

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So first of all when he's saying immigrants he means Mexicans or at least we have very firm evidence as Mexicans

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He's like exactly what I was talking about

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Thank you for cutting through this whole illegal immigrant nonsense

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Which is a problem for him trying to take some sort of a distant position or play like he wasn't saying that

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The second thing that that clearly demonstrates is when Alex uses words like illegal aliens and stuff like that

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His audience knows exactly what he means

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this caller is fully demonstrating that she heard Mexican when he said that because that's what he meant and

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him

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Responding the way you describe shows that that is what he meant. Yeah, he's intentionally meaning

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Yeah, so all these citizens are stuck. They're not free

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because they have

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IDs

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They have sure they have birth certificates

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They have Social Security

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Letters everywhere. They have gold tassels around the flag

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courtroom

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So they're there. This is the beginning of a trend on these episodes that I haven't seen before that makes me sick

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And it's quite frankly a bunch of people

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expressing a bit of bitterness, but also

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jealousy of illegal immigrants

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Undocumented immigrants, huh?

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Yeah

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They're trying to create the perception that they're the free ones and we

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The noble white sovereign citizens are the ones who are oppressed and it's it's hard

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It's hard to look at the grid than immigrating illegally to another country

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Citizens you can do that. Sure go elsewhere. There's two that touch our country. Yeah. Yeah

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So we'll get back to that

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That is a theme that runs through a little bit of this but Alex gets distracted before he gets back to this

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It says something

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I mean, what do you want to say? It's bad. It's just bad, huh?

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And then I've got a free speech issue article here

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This is out of Fox News

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Well, they posted an Associated Press article on Fox News

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Special Olympics launches campaign to ban the word retard

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All that means is

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Retarded they have retardation

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You know, that's like

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The word Negro now has turned a racial slang

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Negro

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so real quick before we get back into this that right there is a dumb thought because what he is trying to say is that

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Negro means black in Spanish, right? That's what he's trying to say or Negro means

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Black in Spanish and what he accidentally says is not Negro Blanco. He says Negro Anglo

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Yeah, so Oh Alex what that implies

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Is that you are using it specifically. Hey, hold on. I wouldn't go that

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Whoa, it's just a word that means things break. Yeah, okay

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The in Europe you get arrested and this is you can google this is the BBC headlines

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They arrested Robin page. We had him on. Oh, yeah, we see that's why presenter one man and his dog

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Where he goes to different towns hiking each week and in interviews people and he gave a speech to a rural affairs group and said

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rural communities to serve the same rights as

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Muslims and homosexuals and they said we believe that word was meant to hurt feelings

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The scientific term scares people heterosexual homosexual. So we're going to ban that word. He was arrested. That was in the news

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The BBC agreed with it and said we may have to fire him. This is very evil to say the word homosexual

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Well, because some ignorant people use the term retard to be mean

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Now they want to ban that but this like you only to set the pressy-first-inch you can't deny

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That six million Jews were killed at Auschwitz alone. Oh certainly Hitler

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People it was in the millions. There's no doubting that we jump as he is Soviets exaggerated

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He said six million at Auschwitz and then it came out that well

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No, we're not house with six million total. And so that original piece of information is what caused the larger debate

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presented without comment

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Alex you didn't need to say any of that

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To do that. I didn't why

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You could have just not said it. You definitely could have just not said it. It was an option

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you could have been like hey, I know people are trying to

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You know classify the word retarded as an offensive word

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But I think it is an applicable word because it's a thing that bad

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you can make that argument if you want and that's all you're really doing is making a

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Bullshit argument like everybody's fine. Just you're an asshole. Don't be an asshole. Everybody's fine

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If you say Jew, nobody's fine if you say Jew like you get it we get it man, right?

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I there's no need to then be like

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So let me tell you why this is the Holocaust adjacent

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People who are making Holocaust revisionist and denialist statements are kind of a kernel of something going on

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All right, it's the Soviets. All right. I'm just I'm just trying to be racist and offensive and I

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Really want you to know that the Holocaust it wasn't that bad. I feel like I've explained

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Not too long ago the the nature of a lot of the Holocaust

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Denial is being done in service of amplifying the crimes of the Soviet Union. Yes

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There is like the anti-communist propagandists

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I have a very a trend towards that and I'm not saying that's what Alex is doing. But boy is that close

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It's wait. It's it's close enough for jazz

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You guys you guys keep saying that six million died at Auschwitz. We know it was in the millions

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But not just at Auschwitz, you know why they said that because the Soviets killed 10 billion people

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And we don't talk about that. We just get mad a little old nice Hitler

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Who's just going along his business trying to kill a medium amount of Jews?

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Yeah, not like the Stalinists so I don't want to talk about the Special Olympics piece of this who cares Alex is stupid about that

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But I was like, oh that's interesting this idea about this guy Robin page, you know getting arrested for

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For saying homosexual. Yeah, I'm pretty I'm I guarantee that that is true

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And Alex will be born out to be correct Dan go ahead and make sure everybody knows that Alex is 100%

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100% correct this time so you gave this Robin page guy is a sort of a country traditionalist

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activist farming farmer kind of activist guy and TV personality and on the BBC, uh-huh

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64 years of age back when this happened in 2002

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He gave a speech at a gathering at Frampton upon Severn in

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Gloucestershire. All right

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Frampton upon Severn comes alive is one of my favorite hours in the service. It's right up there with

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I just yep, so what's the name of what an ace-of-bases?

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So the

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this guy

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The trouble that he got in was because he gave the speech and he started the speech with this quote

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Quote if you are a black vegetarian Muslim asylum seeking one-legged lesbian lorry driver. I want the same rights as you

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So, oh, yes. No, let's give him the same rights as them

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Let's do that. Let's 100% do that. You can have them the let's give them your rights

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Yeah

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So the idea that people complained about was this idea of him trying to incite hatred towards these these other groups

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And England does have laws about that sort of thing. They don't have the same First Amendment that we do

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Alex for us to realize that all over the place. What are you talking about?

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So first amendment is global from this article in the Telegraph quote

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No one present expressed any concerns at the time

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But a letter of complaint was received later by the police and another person wrote to say he disagreed with the remarks made

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Robin page was arrested the next month and a further five months later was contacted at his farm in

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Cambridgeshire and asked by two officers from Gloucestershire

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To attend an interview at the police station

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he ended up staying overnight in prison because the the

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The they'd said that it was a like trying to incite racial hatred

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I don't I think that might be a little ambitious a little capricious of the police and what have you and in the end he

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Was exonerated and he got $2,000 for his troubles

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He won two thousand pounds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

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That was when he wrote his famous letters from a Frampton upon Hamptonshire

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County jail. Yes, right. Yeah, that one was huge

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So he did end up getting fired from his his post later and it wasn't about this it was

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You know, I'll just read to you here from this cambridgeshire live news article

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Quote he found himself in hot water of a quote joke about giving contraceptives to immigrants in raisins

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while a local liberal demo dem

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Also successfully complained to the charities commissioned about a press release put out by him through

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His organization. So there had been other racism based complaints

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It wasn't just this the idea that he got fired for saying homosexual because that's some how a bad word, right?

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Nonsensical and I poo-poo it this guy has a pretty clear track record of minimizing the experiences of non-white traditional

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farmers

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and then also

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advocating for forced

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Drugging I mean, which is actually something Alex complains about people doing all the time. You think you'd be interested in that

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Nah, don't worry about it. I'm happy that that is the and I mean look in in our world

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That was very tame racist bullshit

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Like that. He got all the British people are very polite. Yeah, I mean I get it. That's 100% I

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I'm I agree, but I mean in our world it's kind of like oh, that's cute. Look at how bad you are being racist

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I guess like yeah as I was reading it. I do recognize that there was a feeling of like this isn't gonna land. Yeah

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He just what he just said that he wants to give immigrants

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contraceptives

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That's Bush Lee I know

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That's horrible. Yeah, come on. Yeah

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Yeah, I because I was totally assuming sexual assault like it's an old white dude

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Like

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Not a lot of people around there. Well, so at this point Alex has another guest on the show

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Yeah, he's done a lot of crowing about the Queen and her poops. He is

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Done a little bit of business about how he is jealous of

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Immigrants because they're right. Did he do a number one or number two and who is wiping? I'm not sure

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Okay, but he is also

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dabbled in Holocaust

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Revisionism apology and maybe in a conversation defending the r-word

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I guess I guess and now so just to get bingo on this scorecard for April 1st

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He's got I have an interview with someone who thinks you don't have to pay taxes

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And Tommy Cryer is an attorney-at-law successfully defeated the IRS in his own case. I'm mr. Cryer. It's great to have you here with us

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I think so Ali friend me on I'm always glad to be here. So do you think that Tommy Cryer beat the IRS?

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I am gonna assume that this is very similar to the last guy who quote beat the IRS in his case

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Mm-hmm. Well, which guy was wasn't that a project Camelot episode where all these

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I got it. I got a I got a huge they the government had to pay me

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$300,000 a lot of them do say yeah. Yeah. No that was coach

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I think saying that the ACLU had to pay him. Oh, maybe all these people have bullshit

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They always won they always win their cases. He did actually technically win

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His case the criminal case and that was because a civil well with the jury see the jury

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The issue was in order for him to be convicted of this crime

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They had to be convinced that he believed he had to pay taxes and was willingly not doing that

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So because he was able to prove in court or convince this jury that he actually didn't believe he had to pay taxes

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They let him go on a technicality because there was no malice

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So you get the classic too dumb to commit the crime law. It doesn't reach the criminal statute

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So now this is interesting Jordan. How did he do with the civil case? Well

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You should know this

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This episode is on April 1st, 2009

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Tommy Cryer got back up in the IRS's grill. He filed a court

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Something in the US tax court. He was trying to say that he didn't owe

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1.7 million dollars in taxes and penalties from the years 1993 through 2001 that the IRS said

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Hey, buddy, you owe that money. Yeah, they used a day after this interview

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He does that he starts doing that and starts getting he has this interview with Alex

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He's feeling on top of the world. That guy believes me. I'm gonna go ahead and fuck with the IRS

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What a fucking idiot. So the IRS asserted that now I do believe that he is too stupid to be convicted of criminal malice

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He had a bunch of fines fees tons and tons of

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Unpaid taxes over the years. He filed this petition

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And he said that there was a little bit of a discrepancy and that was quote the amount of the claim

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The amount of the claim deficiency is disputed. The correct amount is zero dollars

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So, of course I ended up

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Well, no, that's not true. We're gonna have to take this to court. So there was

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There was a court date set and what Tommy Cryer did was try and get the date delayed

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So he kept pushing the court date back. Uh-huh. And finally so he didn't have to pay the money exactly

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Yeah, so finally he was supposed to go to court on

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on

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on February 15th

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2012 the court granted him another delay, so he'd already delayed it all the way up to that point

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Three years at this point. Yeah delay

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Well, actually, I think they they were sort of going through from 2009 to probably I think early

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2011 he was sort of going through like a petty

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I'll mail you a letter and tell you you're wrong kind of thing. They didn't set a court date until a little bit later

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Okay, so it's maybe a year or year and a half that he's been getting these delays

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So on in February 2012, he got a delay and they rescheduled the court date for October 22nd 2012

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That never happened because Tommy Cryer died on the 4th of June 2012

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He kept pushing the court date back until he died

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I don't know. I want a full list of every excuse

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He used in order to move the court case back a day. I don't know every excuse

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I don't know all that stuff

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But I do know that it's pretty amazing that this guy only got off on going to prison because the court's like jury's like

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Yeah, he believes it. I mean he's wrong, but he definitely thinks he knows that he

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Who can't take him to prison for that I guess and then he just was able to push it back over and over and over

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and over again

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For some reason I feel like I remember something about laws and ignorance not being a defense

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I don't know where the line is. But yeah, that does seem weird

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I don't know that might just be an aphorism though ignorance of the law is no defense against

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It's true. Let's say whether like possession is nine-tenths of the law. That doesn't mean anything

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I this is my advice to everyone always go for a jury trial unless it is all white and you're black in which case

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Don't do not do that. No, no, no, don't do it. So crazy speaking of that sort of business

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On our last 2009 episode we talked about how Rob do and that other guy were down in

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Sacramento trying to get footage for Alex's new documentary right trying to cover this white

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Camp this tent city. Look they're even doing it to us. That's sort of that sort of thing

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So now Rob do is back in studio. He's made it back to camp and

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Alex is debriefing him Rob Rob come in here. I know you're back

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Tell me about the poop thing again. Don't know the groom

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Confirm that the poop thing is real

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so now the weird thing about this is that Alex keeps saying that he's filming this for his new documentary this interview with Rob do and

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the other guy in studio and so he'll

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Multiple times he was just like say that again say that again do that again, but say it like say it better

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That's sort of thing like

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You know, you're still doing a radio show here. I know you want this documentary to shine but do this off air, man

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We're gonna need we're gonna need another take and I'm gonna need you say it in this camera this time

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I want you to say it directly in there. Don't move your eyes. We're gonna give you a leading question

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Yeah, but this time start with an eye sentence

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He's more or less doing that and it's bizarre and here is Rob do saying something that really

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Reinforces my argument that this story appeals to infowars on a racial basis

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They start this by talking about that Winnebago that we've heard so much about and so that was illegal alien

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They wouldn't impound with no insurance that

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That Winnebago so talk about that, right? Well, they I imagine that

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a

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Let's see who's one thing we didn't we did notice is that there were no

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Hispanics in this I didn't see any Hispanics. There's a couple and I was like, it's non blacks

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They're gonna be you know, and maybe Pacific Pacific Islander type, but there was no

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illegal aliens around and we actually didn't see too many in that area at all because illegal aliens come from a real third-world country

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They live in 1015 to a house, they don't pay any taxes none of the system and a lot of

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And then they saved up money to buy houses right so they know what they're doing these illegal immigrants

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So wait, we've already established Alex believes means Mexicans. They know what they're doing. They know how to game the system

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I don't know buy all these houses and ride around in these awesome cars. What do you want? What do you mean?

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Like is this is this like the scene from heat where it's like I

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You know what? I get what you're doing living outside the law, but it's my job to enforce it. I don't

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Like the way I don't like the way you do it, but I respect you. No, I don't think so

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I think it's him trying to create a false reality in order to foster feelings of jealousy and anger towards minorities

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Right in his he's doing welfare queen shit. Yes. Yes a very yeah to that is probably the best way to put that

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Yeah, that is that is exactly what that is. And of course, that's a piece of his

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Narrative about this tent city that's lame as shit

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Oh, yeah

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But not as lame as how he decides to end the show on

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April 1st

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There's some breaking news on some of the gross things Queen Elizabeth does in the first hour in the restreams at info Wars calm

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And a bunch of other informative guests the last minute

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Like a lot gold is right. So get your ass right rising going back and forth. They are devaluing the dollar

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They've announced they're gonna kill it global currency folks

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You are in the same if you don't put some of your liquid assets stocks bonds 401k

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Silver and physically hold it the news is admitting you should do it now, but saying buy gold stocks

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Whatever folks you want to physically hold it Ted's got an incredible deal today Ted tell folks the deal. You've got

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Tell the deal Ted Ted get that gold gone. What's the deal? So that's how he ends the first

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And you know, I feel like that show was

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Looking back like looking back on it. I felt like

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There was so much Alex trying to do comedy with the Queen stuff like that. That's what he was trying to do

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Yeah, yeah, I think he was well

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He was trying to do comedy like truth and comedy. He was trying to be like Adele close type

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Trying to talk about something real but he thinks it's so funny that the Queen gets her ass wiped or something

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Yeah, they're like this is going to be he spent so long on that and then this tax protester guy is just a zero and

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Then the racism throughout it about like I've not heard a ton of times when there's been like fairly consistent

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Feelings of jealousy towards immigrants and stuff like that. Yeah, I haven't heard that before. That's a weird new wrinkle

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I don't know where that's coming from. Yeah, but so but it is definitely to say it comes from the same racist place

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Oh, yeah, all of his other immigrant narratives have over the time that we've been listening to him

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But I I just I didn't know what to do with it and so I was glad I didn't think there was a ton of

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meat is what I'm saying, you know, there was just a lot of gristle and

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Maybe he's not Bill Hicks. Maybe he's actually Morts all could be Morts all got really fat and gross

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Who's the guy who just bring a newspaper up there? What's in the

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So thankfully I feel like

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I

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Didn't feel like there was meat there. But thankfully I feel like as we get to April 2nd

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There's a little bit more meat and I found something in April 2nd that I think is

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Is super exciting but before we get to that we have to see the trends continue from April 1st into April 2nd of

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Alex Jones realizing that more and more Fox News personalities are sounding like him and it fucking pisses him off

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And everyone's so thankful now CNN and Fox they're admitting

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It's a world government run by bankers and Fox is even criticizing it

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Oh, we've been endorsed by Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity and

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All these other people they're coming out admitting. It's true. Oh, we can talk about it. Now. They say it's okay

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They weren't stupid. They knew world government was being set up in the last 20 years

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They knew it was all being developed

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They're having to now try to keep some of their credibility by admitting it

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I want apologies from all of these people, but you're not gonna get that

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Certainly not certainly not gonna get an apology out of any of those. I would like that day. That'd be a good day

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I would like to turn on the TV and see fucking Brett fucking you. Yeah, just like

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We need to apologize once to Alex Joe Alex

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Hey, look, we've known about this global shit forever. We've been fucking around look I am sorry

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We just wanted you to get there on your own. We didn't want you to feel like the establishment had your back

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We knew that your voice could not be created if you felt like anyone supported you

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So we rejected you in order to make you stronger like parents purposely being like now you don't become a musician

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Yeah, that sort of thing. Yeah, I would love that sort of an apology. So it is interesting

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We have even more of these personalities that Alex is starting to take target at for like now they're starting to sound like me

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It's bullshit

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Alright, they make more money

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That's apart. Yeah, that's 100% what they have suits. Yeah, they're bought by bankers. I

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Look, I bought by Ted Anderson. I want a banker. Yes

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He's a con artist

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I accidentally got too involved with him in the late 90s when I had nothing

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Now I feel like I owe him

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So in this next clip Alex just talks about how he's got a sense of what's to come

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And I'm gonna tell you right now hit me like a ton of bricks last night

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They are gonna stage terror attacks in this country

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They are going to do it. I'll tell you why we get by somebody calling show you get ready folks

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Hard martial law hard, they're gonna try to arrest me to

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It's a guarantee they're gonna move with physical force

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against the American people unless

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We bust our butts to expose the terrorist program now

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Didn't happen must have busted your butts then they must have really busted their head for real

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Also, I always love it when I hear Alex say it hit me like a ton of bricks last night this thing I say all the time

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Last night I got oh, I got it was a tsunami of information

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That would there's going to be a summer of rage that would literally be like me getting on this show be like Jordan

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Look, I need to tell you last night. I had a breakthrough. What's that? Alex Jones is not cool. Oh, yeah

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Holy shit, this guy what the only way we're gonna be able to stop him is if we bust our butts

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I'm trying and get the word out dad. Alex is not on the level man. I didn't realize it. I don't get it

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I didn't realize it. This guy's got ill will you know when I woke up the other day?

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Mm-hmm, and I was just blown away. I don't think this shady gold salesman is on the up-and-up. No, no, no

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No, you're three years late to figuring that out state of Minnesota figure that shit out

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Early and they are the state of Minnesota. That's correct. You know how long it took them. Mm-hmm

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So I told you I found something real juicy real good. Yeah, and it's in this next clip

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What's that?

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It's not what you think in this next clip because you're gonna hear the content of the clip and you're gonna be like

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Oh, this is what Dan is gonna talk about. It's not okay. You have no fucking idea how I'm gonna flex on this

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All right. I have talked to multiple Hollywood people and I also know people who worked at PETA

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For short periods of time and then found out how crazy it was and I remember ten years ago on air laying the shell

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From inside sources and people couldn't believe me but then it's come out in the last three years on mainstream news

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PETA at its locations everywhere orders its employees and

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Volunteers to go adopt animals and then even do it with fake names to get more and then with pleasure

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It's like a ritual they euthanize them people thought I was crazy when talked about that now it's mainstream news everywhere

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It is a eugenics death cult

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They believe in human extinctionism. They're really the public front of the animal liberation front

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and

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Yeah, where are you going for consumer research is not on a big report on it 95% of the animals

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She's up on info wars calm that they adopt they secretly killed. Oh, oh my oh god

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I want I was listening to that so intently trying to figure out what yeah

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Cuz it can't just be the PETA thing

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Gotta be oh

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Oh, oh you you found somebody in Hollywood who was a member of PETA

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No, god damn it. I don't know something. I need something. I don't know what to go on twist. Alex is totally right

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They do sacrifice it. No, it's not that okay

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Holy shit, because I almost believed you for a second at the end there. He's citing something from the Center for commercial consumer research

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It's interesting that he makes this claim about this report about PETA loving to kill animals

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Now it comes from the Center for consumer research because it doesn't it comes from the Center for consumer freedom

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One might think that it's a simple instance of Alex mix speaking

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But I don't think it is for a number of reasons

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The first is that the Center for consumer research is a real thing and it's a legitimate outlet. It's run out of UC Davis

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They run research into consumer attitudes towards food safety and fall. They follow academic guidelines with their work. It's a real professional outlet

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So associating this story about PETA with that organization lends it credibility on the other hand the Center for consumer freedom

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Is where which is where this story about PETA comes from is a considerably less reputable source

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I can't imagine why the Center for consumer freedom is not a research outlet

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It's a front group for a lobbyist named Rick Berman

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Berman is known in many circles as the quote

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Astroturf Kingman

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Because the way he does business is to create tons and tons of front groups to create the false image of support for various things

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He's lobbying lobbying for make it look like they're coming from the grassroots

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As opposed to the actual giant corporate clients who pay his bills. So he's literally creating paid

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Protesters. Oh interesting. He so he even told his corporate clients quote

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We run all of this stuff through nonprofit organizations that are insulated from having to disclose donors

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There's total anonymity people who don't know who supports us. We've been doing this for 20

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Something years in this regard and to the degree that to anyone is concerned about that

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I will tell you there are all sorts of ways all sorts of firewalls that have been established to get this done on an anonymous

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Basis, I'm religious about not allowing company names to ever get used at least

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I'm not going to allow them to get used and I don't want companies to ever admit that because it does give the other side

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That way to diminish our message. Is he literally a James Bond villain telling us his evil plan?

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He thought well, he thought he was doing this in a speech that where no one would ever

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Get the word out about the things. I said so literally like when you have James Bond on your fucking

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Bed. Mm-hmm tied up going like well, there's no problem in telling you my evil plan now

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No one will ever know ha ha ha ha but at the same time revealing that evil plan to these

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Large business donors does make them feel like okay. Well, we're cool. We're never gonna get tied to this

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Yeah, that's one of the things you have to assure them if you want to get them to give you that dirty ass money

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Hey, you guys want to do some evil shit? Guess what? No one's gonna know about it

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If you give me your money to me, no one snitching

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So Berman's original group was called the guest choice network

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Which he specifically started to create the appearance that he was representing restaurant groups opposing the proposed smoking bans of the late 90s

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When in reality he was working for Philip Morris tobacco. Oh, no

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He actually had also opened the Center for consumer free search, which is a very different

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One as well, okay

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Communications between Berman and Philip Morris's senior program manager for public affairs Barbara track clearly lay out his strategy

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quote if externally perceived as driven by restaurant interests

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There will be more flexibility and creativity allowed than if it's quote owned by Philip Morris

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nine months after their founding Philip Morris attorney Marty Barrington wrote in an internal memo that quote as of this writing Philip Morris USA is

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Still the only contributor though Berman continues to promise others any day now

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They were the sole people behind this Philip Morris tobacco

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Philip Morris gave Berman over six hundred thousand dollars that year to create the appearance of a grassroots opposition to the smoking ban

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He does this with a ton of industries

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He organized the employment policies Institute to attack unions and initiatives to raise the minimum wage

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But it's funded by money from the restaurant and hotel industry

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He organized the American beverage Institute to fight against harsh drunk driving laws, which predictably is financed by the alcohol lobby

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This is all Rick Berman does he creates organizations with official sounding names to serve the interests of big business?

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That is a great fucking scam. You got to give it to him. That's a great fucking scam millions and millions of dollars

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I that's also that doesn't seem like a hard gig to do

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I mean, you've got to create so many shell companies and and you have to have insane organization

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I know but what is it but a harder version of creating your own university degree?

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But you also know that's just write down something, right?

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You just do it with a lawyer. No, no, no

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No, because if you do it in this case, if you do it wrong, you're going to prison for life, right?

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Well, it's just a harder version, but you don't need someone else to help you just make a fake diploma

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You could do that on your own in this case you people

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Stuff to where other countries to give them a fake the players

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all right in

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2002 the guest choice Network renamed itself the Center for Consumer Freedom and a lot of its focus became attacking food safety

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Organizations and animal rights groups it should surprise

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No one that the list of his donors include hundreds of thousands of dollars from Monsanto Cargill and Tyson Foods

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It should also surprise

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no one that they received over a hundred thousand dollars from the coke-linked foundations the Donors Trust and the Donors Capital Fund as

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well as over

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$600,000 from the Bradley foundation the Bradley foundation was founded by Harry Bradley who interestingly was a founding member of the John Birch

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Society along with Fred coke father of Charles and David the coke brothers

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These are very startling connections

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But leaving those aside the reason for Center for the Center for Consumer Freedom to attack PETA is very clear

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PETA had been creating public outcry about factory farming for years at this point and in particular was a huge target of Tyson Foods

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Whose cruelty had been exposed by PETA multiple times

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This is a perfect articulation of his strategy as he expressed in a 2007 interview with 60 minutes

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Where he said that it is his approach to shoot the messenger instead of addressing the disgusting animal cruelty

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Changed the conversation into attacking PETA

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Mwah ha ha ha every single fucking sentence. He says should end with mwah ha ha ha

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He's a fucking supervillain the reality of this story about PETA killing animals is set is a sad one

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But it's not one that paints PETA as a particularly evil organization

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Which isn't to say that there aren't very valid criticisms one could make of PETA in other places

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especially the reason that the the number that the Center for consumer freedom is able to cite for this this number of animals that

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PETA killed the reason that it's so high that year is that they were called in by a distressed policeman in North Carolina

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He'd noticed that a ton of animals were being killed at shelters there

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But in very inhumane ways for instance being gassed in metal boxes or shot with 22

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Handguns PETA came in assessed the situation and provided more humane euthanasia

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methods at no cost

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They assessed the alternatives in terms of kenneling the animals creating a sanctuary or finding them homes and deemed

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That this was the only viable option for most of the animals who many of whom were sick neglected or had severe aggression

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Problems I would love to live in a world where no animals were put to sleep, but I also recognize the severe

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Overpopulation problem for dogs and cats in this country now how miserable a sick animals life would be if it was left to fend for itself

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So while I'm not left in one of those places and fucking shot in the head totally oh, I'm not at best

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I'm not thrilled with animals being put down or anything like that

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But I'm also not so like closed minded or short-sighted to think that it's intrinsically wrong

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When you have a situation where it's like there is nothing you can do to help this this animal that's going to live in pain

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Yeah, that sort of thing so whatever

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This is the reality of what PETA is being smeared for in that article put out by the Center for Consumer Freedom

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And it's clear why Rick Berman is a paid bully who defends his corporate clients who don't want to have to pay more to do

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Their dirty business PETA makes it difficult for his big food clients to keep abusing animals to keep overhead low

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So he's being paid big bucks to target them with propaganda

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There's there's no nuance here Alex Jones is literally passing off

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Pro-corporate interest propaganda as research on his show the fact that he says that this is from the Center for Consumer Research

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Leads me to suspect that he was trying to muddy the waters and make it more difficult for his listeners to realize that what he

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Was doing was repurposing corporate propaganda on his show I suspect that I can't prove it

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You know there is a world that exists where he just misspoke

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coincidentally

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It doesn't like oh it wasn't trying to cover up the idea that this is information

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That's coming out of a fairly easy to get to the bottom of

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Corporate shill or it could just be subconscious in that he's like yeah, that's clearly not a real thing

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So I'll just say the real thing because it could why would I say that's the same thing? Yeah?

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That's the same motivation in the waters listeners are left in the dark. Yeah, yeah now for the fun little part

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It should be noted that Rick Berman specifically works for things that Alex is absolutely against in addition to having taken their money

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Berman admitted in 2016 that he had worked as a consultant for Monsanto

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Specifically about how to make their GMOs more appealing to the public

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So he's like he's like that one dude. We talked about it. He's just a propaganda

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fucking soldier of fortune like he just

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Maybe we should get PETA to do that shit. Maybe we should start a consulting group

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We'll come up with propaganda, and we'll we'll just have all this shit for it like so PETA hires us

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But we don't have to disclose our donors, and then we'll put all those animals down

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I feel like that's not the plan that I wanted to know I don't think that would

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I don't think that would I don't think yeah, I don't think that's the one we want to do never mind

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I'm gonna back away from that one my point is here Alex is

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Doing this thing where you know PETA is an organization that he's against I guess. I'm not sure why yeah

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I don't know why I guess cuz they're annoying

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Liberal yeah, I guess that's the only thing I can sort of think of like if you just look at them externally you associate them

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With more left I guess, but I don't know exactly why he's super against PETA

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But he's using this

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clear

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example of a front for

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Corporate propaganda right that's funded by the Koch brothers

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Monsanto Tyson Foods and

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the Bradley Foundation who

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was founded by the up-and-up friends with Fred Koch super great and

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Was a founding member of the John Birch Society great, so you have all of this all of this together. It's very

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Man, it just keeps coming up doesn't it?

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Yeah, it sure does weird the John Birch Society keeps popping up where evil is done. It's weird

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Yeah, it's it's very weird that those dudes. I don't think they're good people. Oh, they're not

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I think I think they're actually bad people like like not like destroying the world bad

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Yeah, yeah like supervillain plan level bad seems that way they're almost a shadowy cabal of

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Rich people wonder getting together to sew

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Discord and foment issues in order to muddy the waters divide people and destroy them mm-hmm and make

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impotent true social change

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Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that's the conclusion this podcast will eventually come to there are globalists, and they're evil. They're not globalists though

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Corporatists yeah

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Anyway, who cares about that cuz that you know we're just talking about feelings

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And you know there's no there's no larger picture to it necessarily

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Well, we can what we can say for sure is it looks like these are real bad people

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Yeah, like it's bad people that Alex is getting his information from right, but they're not nearly as bad as everyone who works at PETA

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And let me tell you they get off on it

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They pressure their employees to go adopt animals and they take him in the back and just

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Inject him and get a weird look on their face. I mean these are some sick freaks folks

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I don't understand why you're laughing at that if you think it's so evil. I don't know. I don't know that's weird

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Yeah, that's a weird thing to do. How do you know about the looks on their face?

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Well, I mean he's he's been to parties before what are you not cool? I guess Dan

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What are you not? You've never been to a PETA murder party. I haven't gotten an invite. I've been waiting. I know

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Like the day after they're all like

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No one told me oh no we totally meant to oh yeah

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So anyway back on track Alex takes a call here and what he does is

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You know this caller takes us back to April 1st a little bit with some feelings about immigrants go back to Tom finish up Tom

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Well, I you know

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I think you made a really good point about the illegal aliens earlier in the show about how that they they are truly free

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In the sense that you know

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They have sour family structures, and I think Tom is listening to the show on a day delay or something like that

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You must be listening to yesterday's episode, but sorry hold on and they're rejecting these mechanisms of control

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but that the American people that the citizens of the United States of America openly accept and

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And and and how to and bow to and that's why the police just leave them alone

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An example again an illegal alien in Winnebago without your average license or insurance

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They let him go 98% of the time that's admitted

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So does and they seize it and auction it and love it because they know the citizens have been trained to be

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domesticated animals cite your sources

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98%

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Actually, especially under Obama we increase the number of people fucking deported

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That's a black mark on Obama's fucking president. It's demonstrably not true

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What do you say it shouldn't you but you can't even give them that you can't even give them a little bit

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You can't no give him one tiny you can't you can't give him credit for the things that we judge

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Yeah, like people who are

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Assensibly closer to being on his side. Yeah, they're like that's not good

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You can't even be like wow I hate him for everything

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But at least he got rid of a lot of him yes, which seems like it would should be intellectually honest if you

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But no he has to because it's about creating the dichotomy the implicit division between

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A legal immigrant and citizen right which is not a distinction between someone who is a citizen and isn't it's clearly a racial

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Division that is what he's talking about. Yeah, though using other terminology

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It's very very clear and it's so frustrating because it look it the reality is

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With all the horrible shit Trump has done and it's just a staggering amount

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But if at the end of his presidency, he finally passes 100% Medicare for all we'd have to be like

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Fuck you gotta give him that well

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But I don't I don't think I don't think it undoes the scale

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anything I've

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Obama's fucking drone strikes increase deportations don't undo the rest of his president. Yeah, but fuck you

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Yeah, you know same thing. Yeah, I agree. I would tip my hat to any you know things that are good

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Yeah within there you can't help it

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Yeah, so in this next clip Alex has been talking about you'll recall that Glenn Beck had that popular mechanics

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Guy on and he announced yes that this next Monday

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He's going to have a full interview with the popular mechanics guy where they are going to debunk the internet rumors that are going around

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About FEMA camps. So immediately Alex's response was I'm going to preemptively debunk his debunking

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Because I know what he's gonna say in that debunking and I'm going to yeah

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I'm going to get ahead of the game

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He keeps saying he's gonna do it and we're getting down to the wire now and in this next clip

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He realizes he still hasn't done that yet and he needs to do it because he said he's gonna do it preemptively and there's less

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Power if he puts it out after the fact course because then he's not psychic

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And he has an on-air meeting about how he got to get some work done

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I mean I could do a show right now and show 20-30 pieces and Washington Post do it Houston Chronicle

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And admitting they have camps for civil unrest and Senate hearings admitting it. You didn't even talk about the Holocaust

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You can get a whole picture and and then also counter how they're going to debunk and show that I understand their mind so well

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And how they operate that I'm going to predict how the debunking works next Monday ever had an off-air production

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And here's the problem. I leave here today at George Humphrey's house to interview him for the next Obama film

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I hope I get home about 7

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But I will do it. I'll drink a bunch of coffee and I'll stay up till 2 or 3 in the morning

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And I am gonna come in here. In fact guys who's Paul Hartman and

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Mr. Neihardt, I need you both here an hour early tomorrow

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Can you do that?

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Because I have to bring in a huge group of printouts mainstream news articles and bills and I need you to have them already

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Pulled up with a web address as a list and then all the video clips

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So that'll be a wait to have like an hour meeting before tomorrow. I mean think of Fox they have high back

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It's why not just have it fucking now you asshole real quick

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I want to point out that this implies that they never have a meeting

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They've never had a meeting the idea that he's making a real point if we have to have an hour

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Guys, we know prep. We have to do a meeting. Yeah

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As unusual it is it is oh

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My god

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That's right. I have lawyer meetings tomorrow and I

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Since I was getting home early I told my kids I'd take them fishing

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That fishing has to wait. I'm not gonna and my wife is gonna get mad. I'm so excited all the way

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Now I have to do it I have to do it

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See, I don't want to wait till Monday and then launch it hours before

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Because if we get the jump on them and have it all over the web debunking them before

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Then I can really expose them. I should have launched it earlier this week

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You're on Eric. You're on air Alex. Alex. Alex. You're on air the real victim Alex. You're on air. You don't get to go fishing

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Fishing trips gonna have to wait kid. Sorry about that. I have to lie better than usual

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There's nothing about that clip. That isn't a hilarious bummer. It's just

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Mr. Bean what is going on? I mean, I hope I hope his kids don't listen to his show

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But imagine if they do it, that's how they find out. They're not going fishing

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Sorry kids I have to hey, I hate Glenn Beck. Hey kids. How was your day from school?

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Dad, we we listen to the show

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Oh

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Well

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if it's any consolation

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I'm not gonna do that work. Actually, I probably not gonna do it

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I'm not gonna take you fishing and I'm not really gonna do the really just trying to weasel out of going fishing

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Gonna drink some whiskey

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I'm gonna call it coffee

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It's gonna be an Irish coffee

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We can't go fishing. So that is that's good fun

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But a little bit later in the show Alex gets a call from a guy who had tried to call in to Sean Hannity's show

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And plug the Obama deception

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So he gets on the on the show and he starts talking about the Obama deception and Sean Hannity ends up hanging up on him

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It's like oh I gotta go

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I gotta jump or whatever because he doesn't want to give free plugs and free press to somebody else

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So this guy calls into Alex show to talk about how he got kicked off

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Sean Hannity's show for plugging Alex's stuff

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Alex has a very interesting take on it that he would never say today

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So he said a little something to you before he delayed you right?

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He even mentioned before the start of the show

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He started taking calls that there was a 30 second delay because of all the liberal left people the left right wacko left left-wing wackos

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Or you know, you have to have that 30 second delay to be able to you know

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Maintain control so I knew I was gonna get bleeped and as soon as soon as I heard myself come live on the show on

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The radio sure enough. He already started the next caller

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So I didn't know what I really got to hear it

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But I was let you know that I try to get through and I'm trying to find what you do as you do what?

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Mark dice does you record it and then you put it on YouTube and then all of a censorship can be exposed

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But you know, it's it's it's really not even technically censorship because they own their show they can do what they want

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Really censorship will be the government coming in and telling you what you can see on your own show or what Sean Hannity could say

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You're dude. Oh, really Alex. Oh, hold on. Hold on

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Are you defining censorship correctly? I hold on hold on. I'm starting to think that he's only saying that

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He might know what they're doing. What's that's your chip now?

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Let's imagine that Sean Hannity instead of hosting a radio show started a website with a message board on it

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They became incredibly popular and there were tons and tons of people on there

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Yeah, wasn't the only message board on the internet, but certainly probably the most popular

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Yeah, and it took away a lot of Sean Hannity's politics in order to get all those people there. Who knows

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Let's let's not dwell on that picture. Sean Hannity starts this giant message board. Alex's line there clearly is

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He has the right to keep people off that message board. Yeah, he has the right to keep people off the show

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It's not even censorship censorship would be with the government

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Yeah, boo. He does think that the government is directing Google to do it

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So he does have that wiggle room, but I honestly think that that is just his way of getting around this argument against him

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You know, I don't I don't think that that's 100% I agree

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It's just his way of like well in order for this to appear to be censorship

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I must believe the government is secretly behind all of this right and all that

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So it's just fun to hear this back in 2009 him like understanding what it is to be censored and and what-have-you

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also

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in this episode Alex

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Confesses to ascend that we have pointed the finger at him at a numerous number of times. I killed another guy

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John takes us in

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All the ones in here audio clips he thinks to send me all the news

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Articles he points out and I got Jaron. I got Paul the guys here constantly bringing me more news

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I've got to somehow go through all this if I just read the headlines and a few paragraphs. Oh, really?

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Got all these people bringing me news. I don't know why I get through this is just read the headlines and maybe a paragraph

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boo

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Alex show up an hour early regularly. No, you can't do that. Hold on. Hold on. Let's not let's not go crazy

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What am I gonna take my kids fishing your show starts at 11, man?

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It's not like you got to wake up at 6 to get in there like a you know, what are these morning?

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They have to wake up at like 4 man. Yeah show guys suck. Yeah. Yeah, I mean their lives as far as the 4 a.m

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Yeah, it's miserable. Yeah, I got to go to bed at like 7 in the evening

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Yeah, so that's just fun. And then another fun thing is you've made a

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Joke, I believe on what I don't know if it was the last one but a recent 2009 episode Alex just played the entire song

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Renegades. Yeah. Yeah. You're like what is he doing FM radio now? What the fuck is going on here?

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And in this next clip from April 2nd, he is doing FM radio

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But we got a good chance of beating this if we fight back. That's what history shows

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So for all of you out there who are fighting back all of you spreading the Obama deception to all of you standing up for

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Liberty and freedom this song is for you Steve Voss and the renegades

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All

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Right the whole song again, all right, we got a we got a caller in hey, hey, where are you coasting tonight?

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Where are you coasting?

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That's tough that's a live

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Far ahead of all right. This one goes out to you Terrence in Northern California

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We're gonna play all of the renegades Terrence and Torrance

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Here comes renegades by Steve Voss

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I think it's crazy that within a week. He's played that song in its entirety twice on his show

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Just loves that fucking song and that that like that is like Delilah that is like for all of you fighting for liberty

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This one's going to you

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It's definitely delight and I think what it is is he had that like sort of moment was like fuck I got a lot of

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Work to do I got to call my wife and tell her to tell the kids. I'm not going I think that's what it was

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I think he realizes he's got to get ahead of it and like yeah, he's gonna be like I'm not coming home tonight

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Like I got to get off air

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So a little bit of time goes by and then he has a little another little block of calls

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And he gets this call which I really think I know we don't play too many calls

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Of his on the show. We had that guy just a couple clips back where he's jealous of the the illegal immigrants

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Right in the country. We got fast-talking Lauren from Ohio. Sure. Who's a sovereign citizen? Oh, yeah a tashay of George Washington's in some way

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One of her ancestors was an aide to camp aid to camp. Excuse me. Thank you. Um, I

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Think we do a pretty good job of giving a cross-section of Alex's callers

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I think we I think I don't I think we could play one and do a pretty good job of giving a cross-section

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There's some that are kind of boring and certainly not not worth looking at or anything like that

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But we're not unfair at all this next clip. If I only played this it would be unfair

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This has got to be real bad now at the same time either that or it's got to be incredibly progressive if I played just

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This call it would be painting the picture that all of Alex Jones's callers are totally crazy at the same time

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This call is not far out of the mainstream

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But it would be super unfair of me to just play calls like this, but this is this is nuts

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Let's go ahead and talk to marine in Virginia. You're on the air. Hey, how are you?

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I've got something first of all, thank you for everything you do now

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So much that is said absolutely sounds scary

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We need to remember we serve the most high God these other idiots are serving Satan

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He only took one third of the angels with him. It's gonna be a two against one fight. Oh

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Now we're getting into troop numbers

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In the fight against the devil Satan is at a disadvantage in this battle

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Shouldn't you be on Satan's side? He's the underdog man. Well, yeah, so that was the last clip we have

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which is somewhat heartening in the sense that we don't have any more clips and in the sense that

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The devil is got to work from behind. Yeah, he's got a tough road. Oh, absolutely

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The rest of the show is George Humphrey comes in studio and it's the same thing as in that interview with Rob

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Do he keeps being like we're filming this for the next Obama movie. And so he's just doing takes and stuff like that

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Oh George Humphrey said he calls Asian people Orientals at one point. I'm like, oh no, great

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Oh, no, George good work. And then immediately after that he quotes Friday Night Lights the open-heart

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Hey, listen, I'll tell you this right now Satan got out of there and he had a one-to-two

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Negative like he had no chance. He ran a still did it. He ran a six for 40

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Clear eyes demon hearts. I think I think the quote was like it doesn't matter if you're white black oriental clear I wouldn't do that

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Um, so that was bad and then the rest of it is all just stuff from the obama deception

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So as I was listening to it

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I was just so incredibly bored like it was all just the same sort of stuff that he said in the obama

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Yeah, so it doesn't give me much hope that the new film that Alex is making is gonna be groundbreaking in any way

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It's very the same thing. So if I understand correctly so far, he said Webster Tarpley and

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George Humphrey interviews for this new documentary right the two people who were also in the original movie

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Randy said Rob do go to Sacramento to do some sort of race baiting right about a homeless encampment

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So that's what we've got for the duck

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Is this not is this documentary like Evil Dead 2 where it's basically a remake of the first documentary. I suspect it

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Yeah, I haven't watched it yet. I say it's probably better quality much like Evil Dead 2

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Oh, hmm. I don't think so. Oh, you know why because no, I mean compared to

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Understand nevermind. I don't think I don't think it will be though

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No, because Alex also has said that like we're gonna try and make this one more verite

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Less like less of that voiceover stuff. It's actually a road documentary

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It's gonna be found footage. I

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Just saw the Blair Witch

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My kids love it they watch it instead of going fishing with me too busy trying to fuck with Glenn Beck. Oh

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Man how great would it be if his kids had already

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Canceled on him going fishing and he had to create this whole psycho drama where he's the one who actually canceled on them

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I was trying to find a way to turn this into like a gift of the magic. I think it's like they've sold their fishing

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Proof that Glenn Beck's a liar. I don't know and he quit info wars in order to take

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Okay, there we go. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so I think this is interesting. I think this episode is

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So, I mean, I don't I might have oversold the beginning of it

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Certainly being like groundbreaking and the idea that he's saying Soros is funding these protesters that is interesting

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We could see that be a blip in the radar, but it is interesting to see that there

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We're seeing the trends of Fox News becoming more like him and he's getting fucking pissed off by it Glenn Beck

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He could handle because that works. That's that fits

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Yeah, he's talked about him in the past about how he's a snake in the grass and all this stuff

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So it kind of works for him

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But now that you got Ann Coulter Sean Hannity all these other people coming and being too similar to him

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He's like they're exploiting my revenue stream. Yes is my lane. Yeah, people are getting into it

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So I think that's interesting the clear evidence that he's just sort of funneling corporate propaganda

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Pretending it comes from somewhere else that tickles me to no end and then he's just a racist. It is fun. It's both

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Like surprising and when you think about it incredibly obvious that he would notice before the rest of the code at large

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Realized that Fox News was becoming Infowars. Like of course he picked up on it immediately

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Because yeah, they're fucking with his his revenue. The rest of us were like Fox News is just going crazy

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We didn't realize that they were taking their first step along the path of Infowars. Yeah. Yeah, that's fascinating

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Yeah, it is a little yeah, it is like one of the only insightful moments that we've seen from him

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Yeah, I mean it's worth something but I don't know. We'll see we'll see how this all works out. I am very

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uh

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Despite most like a lot of this being about the Queen and what have you and just how she shits

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Do you want to call Larry Nichols to confirm it?

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Nichols on I'd rather not

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I I do feel I do feel like I'm enjoying I'm enjoying April and I hope I hope it continues the

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Alright. Yeah, 2009 April is is feeling pretty good. So

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Anyway, we'll be back

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Soon, uh-huh for all of you who's out there celebrate it. Merry Christmas to you and yours indeed for those of you

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Don't happy holidays and whatever for those of you who don't have any holidays right now

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You enjoy me both buddy enjoy the cold doing good

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But we have a website knowledge fight calm I indeed we do do we have a Twitter we do it's knowledge underscore

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What about if there was a giant message board that was analogous to the one that Sean Hannity created in your?

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Analogy to the situation that we are currently in we are on

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Facebook yeah, we got a group called go home and tell you whether you're brilliant. That's correct

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We were also on iTunes you can download subscribe all that good stuff for sure

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You've heard a podcast before we will be back next time indeed, but I

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I would like to say that Lauren from Ohio hasn't killed anybody but god

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I feel like she's probably killed somebody I have to say bet the Lord from Ohio is in the clear on murder

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Let's say look at it. Look at look at how messed up she is

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Look, you have no evidence that she's messed up. You have no evidence that she's ever killed anybody isn't irresponsible accusation

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So at this point barring any further evidence Lauren from Ohio has not killed anybody but one guy technically probably has that's Alex Jones

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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Oh Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you