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Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight

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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed

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We are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. What was the last time you directed somebody to do something illegal? Uh

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Zero to I don't know. I mean, what do you like when I was younger?

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I used to buy drugs and stuff like that. All right, like I would tell my friends to go pick up a quarter for me

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Or something like a quarter ounce. Quarter ounce. It's not nothing nothing crazy illegal

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But yeah, maybe your friends should have known it was illegal. So it's their fault. It has nothing to do with you

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You're fine. I mean in terms of how I also think that should be totally legal. I'm fine

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I don't feel a bunch of guilt about it outside of that. I don't know

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I don't think I've ever directed anybody to commit a crime never think never never no hits

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Never put a hit out on anybody. I'm positive on that one. Yeah. Okay. Why do you ask?

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I well, I've been getting into some Rico added material. What are you doing?

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No, you didn't you didn't read the the dumb shit Trump said about Cohen's sentencing

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No, I didn't I've been working all day. I kind of have I gotcha. I the most news that I've gotten today is about

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Maria Butina

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Yeah, lady who has committed her plea pleaded guilty to

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to

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conspiracy against the United States

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Working with the NRA. This is gonna unfold. Well, yeah everybody

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Anyway, this is a show where I know a lot about Alex Jones and I don't know anything

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But what you tell me about and apparently I don't know a whole lot about

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various

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News elements of the day but can happen that's because I've been getting deep in here

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And I've got an interesting modern-day episode to present to you

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All right today, we're gonna be listening to the December 12th and 13th episodes of the Alex Jones show

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Okay, and we're gonna see some real fucking fireworks

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There's some really stupid things that Alex brings up and then I will say that one of the bigger meltdowns

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I've ever seen from Alex happens on air on the 13th. All right, I'm weighing on that. It's real gross

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I love some he he needed someone needed to like Rob do should hit him with a tranq dart. That's really the level

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He's getting to like side of the neck. Yeah, it's real bad. Oh boy, and we'll get to that

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But first something that is not real bad. I was about to make that transition for you

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It was cut that's the junior varsity version of my

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No, I was I was happy that I thought of it and then you used it it was an easy one low-hanging fruit

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But what's not low?

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And way up at the top of the tree take it back is my feelings about our donors

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Thank you very much, Timothy. Also Garrett

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Thank you so much for not only filling downtown Chicago with the smell of popcorn

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But also for becoming a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Garrett. All right, calm it down there, Dan.

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But at a bit of an elevated level and we appreciate it. Oh so very much. So angry flick and that's FL IK

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Cool spelling we appreciate it. Thank you. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk

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Four stars, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little little titty, baby

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but for today

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Alex starts the 12th, which would be Wednesday's show off on a little bit of a strange note

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We know from by murdering a pearl that wouldn't be a very strange note

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It is B sharp strange note

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No, that's very normal. Very normal. Come on. So

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before this

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Trump had had his little meeting with Pelosi and Schumer that went quite embarrassingly delight

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Where where they're like, we shouldn't debate this in front of the what are we doing? This is ridiculous. Yep

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And I was just like we want the wall cool. All right guys, it was

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Very very uncomfortable. So I thought that this was going to be something that Alex brings up a ton

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I thought it was gonna be oh and the reason we're starting on Wednesday is because Alex was out of the studio for the proceeding

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Days and Owen Troyer was hosting because Alex had gone to Washington

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yes, even I couldn't avoid that he and Roger Stone went to Washington and

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Made real dicks of themselves again as they are want to do whenever they travel to Washington

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And he Alex was super proud of himself for the stunts that he pulled of course

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Of course, he was super proud and so he's gonna brag about that a lot

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He doesn't even talk about Trump and Pelosi and Schumer's meeting at all on the 12th instead

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This is sort of his main story. Did they do it?

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What did they do anything? What do you mean?

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I mean like they went there they just created a media spectacle that got them a bunch of press and yelled at the CEO

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Okay, that's basically it. That's fun. No, they didn't do any do you mean do as in do?

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Yeah, they made a see it's the it's the sort of

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slightly less embarrassing version of Loomer

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Her tying herself to Twitter's door, right? That's basically what they were doing is like why have you banned to me?

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But

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Alex starts the show and this is a narrative that will go throughout the show and there is

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Zero depth to it in his reporting. It is just one fact that he's throwing around

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Google's world headquarters, it's they've now officially moved to China

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He is on fire right now. You're radio listener

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We have the live feeds at info Wars calm and news Wars calm

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There was a large explosion in the building. Nope. Now it's got

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Red flames shooting out of the top of it a Google executive was found dead yesterday

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In New York, all sorts of things are going on behind the scenes

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Obviously the head of Google the CEO Sundar

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Are ran from us when we were simply pointing out the dragonfly is already operational. It's totally illegal

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They're helping round up political dissidents. So Alex has never brought up Sundar before and now he is public enemy

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Number one Alex is just screaming about him all over the show and there's okay. So Google has a building or office

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Headquarter in China and there was an air conditioning unit that apparently caught on fire on the roof

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Oh

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Now it's turning that into first of all that Google has moved their headquarters entirely right China

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Which is not true and then to that there was an explosion in the building and that there's a huge fire and Alex

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Keeps coming back to this over and over through the show. He's like Google's on fire

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He'll be going out to break and he's like just remember everybody Google's headquarters on fire

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I don't know why that's a repetitive thing to do and he also keeps saying like I don't want anyone to be hurt

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I'm not happy that their headquarters are on fire incredibly happy. Well, he's winking. Oh, yeah

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He's doing that like I don't wish fire on Google. It's crazy. So is his argument that

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like Google pulled a

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Baltimore cult situation in the dead of night all of a sudden they just moved all of their employees to

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China and then the building is just empty. Yeah, I would say that that's probably that's one possibility

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The other possibility is that they've been slowly doing it forever. And now they've admitted that they've done

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Oh, okay, either of which are true, but either one would probably work for him. All right, he's not specific for a reason

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Gotcha, either would be like nope. And and as awful as it is

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The fire in the Google building. No, no, the the censored search engine for China. Oh totally like it's horrible

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horrific and awful

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But it's not illegal. Well, no, no, it's not it's expressly not illegal and that's kind

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It's illegal to just be Google in China. Yeah, and also the from the testimony from the hearings

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They said that it is not made and they haven't done it, but they also didn't rule out that they might

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Yeah, which means maybe you are working on it already. Oh, they're totally working on it

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Yeah at the same time. It's like hey, you know, if you want to do business in China, then that's what you do

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Yeah, I'm not we're not saying it's right. It's awful. It's the worst and it's about it's a bad precedent

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Certainly, but Alex is pretending that they're launching it here and that they're explicitly like Google is working

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With China to round up dissidents, right?

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And as much as you could say that like the government of China might use the repressive free speech rules

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That Google would be complicit in and that's the part that they're helping with rounding up dissidents

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I guess you could make a stretch for that, but it's not like, you know, Google CEOs are out there

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right on horseback hunting down the

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And I mean, it's not like China isn't already doing a great job of that on their own. They don't need help

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They don't need anybody got that covered. Yeah

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Yeah

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Um, so in this next flip Alex gets into talking about how everything is going great for the Patriots your world

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And he's wrong about literally everything he says in this clip

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the ultra-massive news

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How big is it huge that you have Macron set tomorrow for a no-confidence vote may be removed from office

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Probably will be you've got Theresa May set for a no-confidence vote today. You're seeing the fall of the New World Order

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Remember what happened a month ago Germany had its sixth election in a row

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Took six elections to get Merkel's party out of power because they got over 20 big parties didn't happen

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At coalitions

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But now she's at lame duck. Nope

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He's still the Chancellor in their parliamentary system, but she has no power and you see the global is being thrown out in Brazil. Oh

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Iceland in the UK. I mean, can I keep listing all this you see what Trump's doing?

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Whoa boy love love that. He just throws in Brazil every time he's talking about these awesome

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Situations. Yeah. So now if the reality of the situation in European politics is this in Germany Angela Merkel was replaced by

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Annegret camp Karen Bauer who has quote widely called for and stands for continuity and will safeguard the legacy of Angela Merkel

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while opposing candidate Frederic Mertz

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Camp a cramp Karen Bauer is from the Christian Democrat Union which might appeal by name to Alex

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Except that Angela Merkel is also from that party now cramp

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Cower I care Laura cramp Karen Bauer sucks in general, but she is a globalist and Merkel

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Merkel didn't get defeated. She'd been Chancellor for 13 years and after the CDU received diminished support in the last election

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She announced in October that she wouldn't seek reelection in terms of changes

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This is a zero you have a person from the same party becoming Chancellor who has consistently said they're gonna protect

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continuity with Merkel's agenda

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Macron is facing a no-confidence vote in the aftermath of the really dicey yellow vests protests that have been consuming the country

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The concern is that he hasn't been effective in handling the situation. Thus the vote also

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This isn't some kind of anti globalist maneuver

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The no-confidence vote is being spearheaded by the French Communist Party and the Socialist Party

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Macron's popularity is profoundly low right now, but no serious analyst is expecting that vote to succeed

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Also Theresa May survived the no-confidence vote on Wednesday. This was an attempt. This was not an attempt to impeach her as we understand

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The term it was a vote among the Tory party MPs to decide whether or not they had confidence in her leadership of the party

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She won the vote 200 to 117 and thus is protected from facing another leadership challenge for a year all of Alex

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Examples are not true

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There is no purging of globalist leaders and even if this were a series of anti globalist

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Crusades against these foreign heads of states they've all not produced any of the results Alex is pretending that they have not even a little

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bit

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Brazil has purged a lot of people but I wouldn't even call them globalists so much as like yeah alive

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yeah, yeah, and with May what I don't understand whenever he was talking about May being part of the the

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globalist takedown is she's the one leading

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Brexit like isn't he for

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Brexit because that's a

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You know, he wants a hard brexit

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But if I literally don't know just he know what's going on and she did kind of lose

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I mean, yes, she's protected from a leadership challenge inside of her own party

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Yeah, but knowing that there are a hundred and fifteen people who are voting against her. Yeah while at the same time

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You've got Corbin who is

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Is waiting in the wings hoping to swoop in sure and she even like her comments after the no confidence vote

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Even though she won which is like this sucks

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Yeah, it sucks that a third of my own party doesn't believe that I should be in this position. So yeah

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Look totally I don't but I don't think that Alex could see in the same way that before Trump came around

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He wouldn't have allowed any US president not to be a globalist right no matter what they did right in the same way

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I don't think that he could look at a president or a prime minister in the UK

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That wasn't Nigel Farage and think that they aren't also a globalist. I see what you're saying. Even though Theresa May is

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Ostensibly for brexit which she's actually doing I'm guessing Alex would say this is probably what he would say

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She's acting like she's for brexit

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But she's really just there to manage to make sure the brexit isn't as anti globalist as it could be

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You know, I mean actually that might be true though and not it's not true. There might be some accurate pieces of it

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But it's not true. I mean, I don't think she really gives a shit about brexit

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the deal that she's negotiated quote unquote with the EU is a

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Pretty much awful like the the results of this is either going to wind up being a hard

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No deal brexit or a second referendum where people are like this was a terrible idea. We want to do over

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We want to not do this one

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Right, but the problem one of the problems to is that even this conversation of fanciful ideas of what Alex may or may not believe

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Is contingent on a certain amount of black-and-white thinking?

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Wherein these politicians are globalist or they aren't right and this really is a part and parcel of Alex's worldview

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And in this next clip, it's also contingent on believing that he knows what he's talking about

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Well, we know that we can't have faith in that

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But that black-and-white thinking really comes in in this next clip and I think that he says some things that are fairly important

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This is the fight for this country. This is the real deal and

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People better decide which side they're on. There's only Patriots and globalist

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There's only people that are pro-human future people that want a globalist future. What about Switzerland?

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That I don't know that black-and-white thinking though that right there. There are only Patriots and globalists

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There are as only the people who want a horrible future and a positive human future

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That line of thinking is how you end up supporting Nazis

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That is how you end up supporting white nationalists white supremacists because based on the dichotomy

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Those aren't globalists ergo. They are nationalist cool

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Awesome human potential people if the if there is only two camps people can begin

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You are on the side of all people who are

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against quote-unquote globalists

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Now you've got a lot of Nazis in your ranks and that's how it becomes. Okay

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Yeah, that line of thinking exactly right there is the softest version of radicalization

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Yeah, and Alex is full of it. Yeah, I I I

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I think it is it is kind of they I mean probably as close as possible to the

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reality of our

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Political system as it is right now that that kind of one-sided or black-and-white thinking sure

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Specifically and especially emic from the right wing. I think the left is guilty. Oh, no

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I mean, I'm totally guilty like over simplistic categorization

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I should but that is that is one of those things where you do wind up seeing people

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You know, like my like my family will will be like hey, whoa

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Oh, I don't agree with all of these things, but it's like you're still at a rally with a lot of Nazis there

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Mm-hmm. I'm I'm not at a rally with Nazis. So one of us is closer to Nazis. Maybe you're not a Nazi

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Yeah, but you're awful close to a Nazi, you know, well even that being said it's just how you become acclimated to it

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yeah, it's it's the

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It it's the it's the worst version of the enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of ideas and especially when it's based on

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a false

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Dichotomy and it's based on like a false similarity of ideas

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It's real dangerous and people listening to it could easily be tricked into thinking. Oh, yeah

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Yeah, these these people who want to ban immigrants from coming into the country

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They're cool. Yeah, so anyway

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We already sort of touched on this in a previous episode and a little bit in a clip just a second ago

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But Alex has some more things to say about Brazil

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If Brazil's that stupid they're threatening the nude Trump down there with closing their economy

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Oh, no

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If the public gets mad at a leader

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Who could turn things around and then the globalists come to destroy that?

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To then punish the leader and punish the people do the people get pissed and who's pissing all over them?

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Who's running them in the ground? Who's raping them or do they get pissed at the person that stood up with them and is their?

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brother

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Yikes, you are literally talking about a guy who threatens rape. Uh-huh. Yeah. Oh, yeah

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I think Alex needs to look a little bit deeper into who Bolsonaro is because he is

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His like the new Trump down there kind of thing

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It really if he knows anything it reveals deeply what he's attracted to in Trump. And that is a big

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Big fucking problem. Yeah. So anyway, I just played that because that's ugly and it shows that Alex Alex lusts after authoritarians

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It's it's kind of strange in that my first reaction or but like my my instinct is to go like whoa

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Whoa, whoa Trump isn't Bolsonaro, you know, and you're like, well, I mean Trump is a horrible

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Monster, but at least he's not a dick military dictator, but give different circumstances in Americans

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social climate

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all of those sorts of things you could very easily see the sort of person who puts out the

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Rhetoric and the world view and the actions that Trump does acting exactly that way were he in that circumstance for sure

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So yeah

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Anyway in this next clip Alex screams about how he and Roger Stone are the real Americans in the world and however

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Everyone yells at them out of car windows that they suck

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And then you'll walk down the street of your Roger Stoner Alex Jones or Donald Trump jr

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And people will roll down their windows go if you you on American Russian

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You're going to prison scum when we're the Americans everybody knows it

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So

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They're trying to plunge the economy right now, they may be successful

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You better let everybody you know understand who was the blame

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Okay. All right. So Roger Stone Alex Jones and Donald Trump jr

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This trio is walking down the street people pull down their windows and scream at him

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I'd just like to say remember at the beginning of this episode

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Maria butina was she pled guilty to conspiracy against the United States. Yeah after the NRA

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Yeah, there's some pictures of her meeting with Donald Trump. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't either

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How do you imagine them walking down the street the three of them to get into a diddy-diddy-dumb, diddy-diddy?

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Are they walking in a straight line because they all have some dominance

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have you ever seen that that music video by the whispers they sang a

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Rock steady we begin to rock

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steady steady

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Rocking all night long. Okay. They did another song called keep on loving you

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And the way they walk down the street is exactly how everyone go watch that video. I

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picture Alex Roger Stone and

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And Donald Trump jr. Walking down the street snapping around and like dancing across like side to side on the sidewalk

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My favorite parts of the show. Are you explaining anachronistic music video the whispers?

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Like a hit machine those guys are amazing. They're so good. They they're real real smooth and then on top of that

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The lead singers of the group are twins. Oh, we both have a crazy mustache. All right

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Well now that's awesome. I like that. It's surreal to watch these like these R&B singers all in like weird like suits

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And the two of them are twins

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Tegan and Sarah are twins, right? It's not the same. They don't dance around the sidewalk. Hey, they're

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They could I don't know. I don't know if they're twins admittedly they Tegan and Sarah is a group that I

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A hundred percent should be into and should have explored. Yeah, you somehow never had really should you love that kind of pop music?

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Like their earlier albums I can see you ignoring but the most recent albums have been all pop dance

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I'm sure look I should look into them and I will I'll make a commitment to do that

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But the reason I think is just because of like the groups of people I was around who were really into them

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Like maybe eight nine years ago. I was not a fan of those people

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Oh, I was like, I don't want to possibly really like something you really like

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Anyway, I don't believe Alex's whole thing about people rolling down the window and screaming at him

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I also don't believe the thing about those guys being the real Americans

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I would like to roll down a window and scream at them. That would be fun might be that'd be a good day

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So also in addition to the Pelosi Schumer Trump meeting the other news that had broken here before the 12th was that

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You know, Michael Cohen had gotten sentenced to three years

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For his his behaviors Alex has a take on that. Oh, oh does he would you believe I bet it's hot fire, man

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This is a this is ambitious

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I'll say that

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Michael Cohen obviously in the last 30 minutes they announced this

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He's getting three years for cases involving Stormy Daniels lying to Congress about Trump's Russia Tower and

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Of course, there's nothing there with the Russia Tower. There's nothing there with Stormy Daniels

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Not this guy is getting this three years instead of 20 years for 15 million dollars money laundered and a bunch of other stuff

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Show to act like Trump had a crooked toenail. He's been given three years. He's lucky

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He's getting that

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What a monstrous little traitor, but a sack of garbage

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Michael Cohen is cool. I love the like

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I

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Mean like who are you I know that Alex thinks that Donald Trump stands for America now

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So I guess like betraying him is betraying America. Yeah, I suppose

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I guess that's where the sort of traitor idea comes from but man

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It's gonna be so fun in the coming like months to see because that's that's Bush League stuff

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Oh, yeah, that's an easy flex for him to make like bending over backwards to be like, yeah

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Michael Cohen's a weasel. He's going to prison had nothing to do with Trump

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not hard that's

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But man when some of these dominoes start to fall as I think as it feels like they're going to

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It's going to be much more difficult. I

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Want to hear his take whenever his his strolling partner Don jr

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is sentenced that could be it's gonna be that could be very and after Alex has said that

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Donald Trump jr. Was his and Mike Cernovich's source. He said that on air and that apologized for it

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I didn't mean to out sort of at your source. Sorry about that

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That that also introduces some problems Alex wisely hasn't talked about Michael Flynn in a really long time

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That is why he used to talk about how he was a super patriot and trying to get

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Goolan out of the country because Goolan was evil and all this stuff trying to turn that into a positive extradition

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Outside of the law and he could talk to Russians all he wants that that sort of stuff

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Thankfully Alex has stopped talking about that

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So his audience will have forgotten that he was so pro Mike Flynn and he can be like he was he was going rogue

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He was a traitor the whole time. He was on his own shit. Yeah. Yeah Trump jr. Is gonna be difficult

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He already hates Jared. So I don't think that's gonna be a big deal. Yeah, I don't think anybody's I don't think anybody's gonna miss that

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I'm just trying to picture how he makes his move like to sustainability after this. I think it's possible

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I think it is possible. But what's he got? What do you mean?

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I mean we make your pitch to Alex like how do you survive this? Oh, I would have done it long ago

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I would have done it already

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But I think let me we heard in that last current episode

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I think when he was talking about like if this new NAFTA do you?

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Yeah, if that gets ratified, that's his line in the sand. Uh-huh. He can use that as the perfect dismount really

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I mean it would involve

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So like probably severing ties with Roger or getting Roger on board with wherever you go in the future, which is doable

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I think it's doable and if he stays out of prison

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Think you need to worry about where Rogers going

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Uh, it's gonna be if Roger goes to turn then the transition is super easy

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Yeah, because that is going to get ratified. I see almost no way that it's not

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So when it does happen, which Alex knows is going to happen. He can use that as his like jump-off point

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I don't know what he does from there, but probably just goes back to Ron Paul shit

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Yeah, if stone does go to prison he can go against oh, yeah stone stone was the one who was lying to me this whole time

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I believed I'm a believer the only crime I committed was loving my country too much

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Dan John Rappaport sent me emails that stone had sent him trying to turn him against me

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No one tries to get Rappaport against me. I don't know. There's a whole there's a whole slew of options

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But I think the picture was of Roger Stone the whole time. That's why it wasn't hung

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I think if Alex is smart and he wants to continue be able to continue his rhetoric. He has to get off

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He has to leave

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Yeah

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And that is the perfect way for him to jump off because one of the only things that's left that Trump like

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Was said he's going to do and Alex was super into was getting out of NAFTA and GATT

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Yeah, and the idea that you have this new version

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Coming in it undoes all like the like all the hey the stock market is so awesome because of Trump

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Right that argument is kind of gone away. He hasn't built the wall. He hasn't put Hillary in prison

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None of this stuff is happening

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All of the people that he put into office that Alex said we're going to be amazing like Jeff Sessions are gone

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There is nothing left for him in terms of this dead husk of a presidency for him to make propaganda out of yeah

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He needs a fresh start and that's the perfect opportunity for it where he can still keep at least

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60% of his audience probably if he does it, right?

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Yeah, I think you'll lose some of those diehards and shit the people he's radicalized too far, right?

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They'll find a new home. They probably storm front. Yeah

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if that's yeah, I

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Don't think we've kept a tally at all has Trump actually done anything that Alex

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Wants or publicly wanted him to do. Yes got out of NAFTA and get the TPP

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That's right

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The tax cuts Alex is super thrilled with yeah, but that's not really something that Alex like any Republican would have done that

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Well, yeah, exactly. I mean more like for for Alex's specific

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A idiosyncrasies in desire like has Trump done any of those like any of the things clearly

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Actually kicking out the globalist. It's clearly

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indicated a distrust of non-whites

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Right, so that so we got that going

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I mean though, I'm sure the border policy of separating families from their children. That's Alex loves that shit of globalist wouldn't want that

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's I don't know. We're in the weeds. We got to get back on track. Okay

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So I'm not sure I think it's probably not much

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I would say it's just amazing to me that I you never I don't really consider

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anything that

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Trump has done

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Because it is only ever

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Specifically benefited him and other rich people. Yeah, but you know detriment of everybody who voted for him

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But you know what he's done that makes up for so much of that. He at a rally publicly

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Defended the idea of being a nationalist and now that means so much to Alex that that can make up for a multitude of zeros

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Okay, I think I think that he is existing on that like that

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Just I'm starved for three days and then someone gives me bread and I love him for it

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Right that sort of relationship and that's what that's an unsustainable system and it makes this show incredibly boring most of the time in the present

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because he's in that position where he's he's trying so desperately to

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Do anything and there's nothing and it leads him to do things like this like I know

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In this clip, he's trying to complain about Mike Pompeo. I don't know why yeah

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Why he doesn't explain at all in this clip

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He gets distracted by a term that he uses himself and then never gets back on track. Listen to this bullshit

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Okay, and now Mike Pompeo

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a

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Patriot topless class great guy Mikey Pio great work for this country is a butt boy

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Boy is pretty much

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quasi

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Pedophilic to it means, you know a boy that a man uses his butt

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So at this point we're not done with the clip, but this is where the train has left the station

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Yeah, no

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I Alex is no longer interested in talking about Mike Pompeo or explaining why he is a butt boy

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He now just wants to talk about a butt boy. It's a

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Hate to have to define this for you, but that's what a butt boy is

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In fact, it goes back to they used to impress down to age six seven eight years old

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Usually about ten was the age they wanted onto British ships impressment

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Part of a revolutionary war was over impressment and they would just kidnap your child

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Sometimes a hundred miles in you know

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Inland and did knock them over the head and just take them and put them on a ship to be the cabin boy

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Well, let me tell you on some ships, you know, the cabin boy was getting buggered

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Okay, and buggered is the English term for screwing kitsch and buggering is a big deal over in England as we all know you see

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All the news with you stab lights. We all know that

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They just bugger your children's brains right out in the open and turn them into little perverts when they're age five

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And if mommy and daddy don't like it, we don't take the child from you if you live in a blue city

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By the way, my mom's from Austin

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I grew up in Dallas. Where's this go help found this state and

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I've had family living here in Waterloo's it was named before it was Austin for where some of them but boys

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Is that why you know the hundred eighty years?

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And I've got our building and our structure built here

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But I it's it my in the next few years. I think I'm we're gonna evacuate Austin. It just it's it's falling to, California

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Mike Pompeo's a butt boy now, let me tell you about the etymology of butt boy

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And then for some weird tangential reason I'm gonna leave Austin. We've heard him talking about leaving Austin for years

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Yeah, how many years he always wants to leave? Of course you do Alex even in our 2009 investigation

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He's saying he's about to leave gotta get out of here

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They these anarchists assaulting the cat cafe. I gotta get out of this town

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Such nonsense that track of thinking is really super bizarre. Like I

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I'm all here for Alex complaining about how bad it was in the 1700s

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Sure

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I'll allow that

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Pirates privateers were not good people. No, so point taken. It was a different time. Why is my

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mom a butt boy?

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This is nonsense

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it's it's weird the world that we are living in where he like I

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Didn't Mika Brzezinski say butt boy on television. I don't I don't I didn't hear this, but if she did

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Everybody roundly was like hey, that's a seriously homophobic slur. What are you fucking doing? It does feel that way

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It is it is yeah, it's a pejorative term that's always been applied to just like well

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I was willing to accept it in terms of the pirates when Alex Houston, right?

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Well, even when he was talking about being buggered that is not

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associated with like

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NAMBLA, right? That's that's just what people pejoratively called

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Homosexual sex. Oh, so so he's even even in his explanation of other countries

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He's still saying that any homosexual is a pedophile. Well, yeah, I mean he says it's the LGBT P

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Yeah, so yeah, what a monster

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Yeah, we'll get we'll get into a specific about how dumb he is about that here in a little bit

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But before we get to that

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Alex is like really riding high on his success of going to Washington and yelling at the Google CEO. He has a different

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Definition of success. Yeah, and so he gets into this which is really funny because it's it's just this is so stupid

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And I'm gonna tell you what Google really is on the other side of this break

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You're gonna get the world exclusive why they fear info war is more than anything else. Do they?

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Do they because I've read their own writings their own statements their own dreams

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and I've

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Overall operations in the global control them and I know them. I know what they've named their secret project

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Like

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Palantir oh

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One of Google's secret projects like Palantir the company that was started by Peter teal

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Has nothing to do with Google

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Quiet

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Palantir is like a data company. I can't hear you over the sound of Alex being too, right?

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It's so loud how right he is, I don't know Peter teal noted Trump supporter Peter teal

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was the one who started Palantir and is the chairman of it a famed rich person who has

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deliriously and

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Deliteriously attacked journalism in all of forms

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So this is why Alex is so he makes Google so scared because he knows about their secret projects that they're not involved in

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Yeah, man, that's how secret they are. Dan. He's crazy. Is he gonna get into the Palantir?

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No, not he's not gonna go Lord of the Rings. Oh, come on, man

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Oh not not going to get into the company nor the

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Tolkien

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reference that's being made but what he is going to get into is how he is a big boy and

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Okay, he is there to fight against tyranny in all of its forms

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But if you love evil and you love lying I do and you love setting up systems that make humans weak not strong

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It sounds great. I am your enemy and I swear on the altar of God

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eternal

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Resistance against every form of tyranny. Oh, I guess I'll say my mind man. Also. I'm super into what's going on in Brazil

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Well Brazil's great and there's a new Trump down there and oh the Philippines have you been to the Philippines loves him he loves

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do tears and

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dude

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Russia killing Putin killing it. I am against all forms of tyranny though from China specifically

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I hate that one that one

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Specific form of tyranny. Yeah, I'm against uh-huh, but roving gangs of murderers

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empowered by the government to

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Extrajudicially kill whomever they dislike no big deal. That's not tyranny. So good old time. Yeah, that's so stupid

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That's just Alex is a fucking wing ding. Yeah, that brings us to all that

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We really need to cover on the 12th

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there wasn't all that productive of a day and honestly if it weren't for a couple really fun things like the

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Pompeo clip in particular I might not have even covered the 12th at all

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Because the 13th is meat. I just like knowing that Alex can read Google's dreams

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That's what I like to I like knowing that at any point in time Alex could be reading anyone's dream

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I just picture him sitting by the fire

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reading a

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well-worn Kindle

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Children gather round. Mm-hmm. We're gonna we're gonna read from the good book of Google dreams

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I'm gonna tell you about Tim Cook and what he dreams about

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He's late for a test

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So we get into the the 13th here the Thursday episode and

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You know

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What?

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Look the news had broken about

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Maria Bettina. Yes, and so I kind of thought maybe

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Alex was going to

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Get into some defensiveness. I was wrong

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I can't predict Alex's behavior any better than anybody else can I can I can

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Document why he's wrong about everything, but he is so unpredictable

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Instead of doing anything that has to do with the current news

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He instead launches off on a fucked up

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medical episode

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This what the first hour and a half at least of this episode is wall-to-wall rant

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It is nothing except him just ranting and here is where he sort of picks up his theme

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Everything just in this one article. I mean it brought up thousands of things when I was here. I hadn't seen this article yet

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Where did you look for it? I'd seen what happened in other parts of the world the way the IMF the way the World Bank handles it

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The way the UN handles it

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Then I've got all the UN documents

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They're in America destroyed by design. Are you crying? I just think you know, if I just get up here and just cover this flippantly

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and

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cynically

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People won't get how dangerous it is and I get really really angry at myself

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Because if I don't just sarcastically hatefully say it

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Then I'm gonna absorb it and I'm gonna start crying

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Do and I'm gonna start killing people. Whoa

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That is an escalation why?

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It's hard. I know why people don't want to face all this because it's hard because you're a murderer. It's hard

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They're putting polio in the vaccines the polio vaccine

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So I would say that first of all

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Unless I snarkily yell that I hate people

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I'm gonna cry and then inevitably gonna kill lead to murder for me Wow, so that's not good

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Oh that that shit that is another

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Another check mark in the probably technically killed a guy totally

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Um at no point does Alex mention what article he's talking about

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So I had to just sort of research

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Anything anybody in order to get into this and it seems like he's responding to a story about an Indian

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Pharmaceutical company shipping out potentially contaminated viruses. There's a lot of problems that story and Alex's sort of take on it

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This is a different one than the other

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Company the one from

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2009 yeah, yeah, okay. This is current. Yeah, cuz I look I mean you never know with Alex

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He might just be pulling that story up and saying that it's new

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So I just wanted to confirm he will get into the factor 8 story

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Of course, he'll try and weave that in with this, but we'll get to that in a second

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So there's a lot of problems with him trying to use this in the way

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He's using it first is that this story broke in late September?

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So it's not technically news

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The second is that it was the result not of malice and wanting to give people polio

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It was the result of faulty manufacturing practices that have been condemned by the US and European regulators for years

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There's no regulatory oversight and a lot of the Indian companies right and people there

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There are people who've gone on record and said that they just don't have the infrastructure in place in order to assure quality assurance

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That sort of thing which is why the US and European authorities

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Often have to put out notices of like don't use this Indian medicine

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Because oftentimes it will be something that could be tainted right or something that is just suspected of not being produced correctly, right?

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So then the third problem is the only people who getting these potentially tainted vaccines for polio were in

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Maharashtra

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Telangana and Attar Pradesh

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So no one in the United States were even affected even though it is still awful these people getting potentially tainted

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polio treatments

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It is awful, but it has nothing to do with the United States. It has nothing to do with malice

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All of the things that Alex is ostensibly bringing into this narrative that makes him want to cry and then murder. It's not real

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So that's that's what I have to go on for now. I don't know

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I still don't know if that's the story he's talking about but I thought like this is close enough

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So maybe that's what he's talking about. It's also not true. Where were they?

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polio vaccines or were they some other medicine that had so

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So these were like the old-timey

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Idea of what a vaccine is whether it's like oh we put a dead version of the virus in here or whatever it is

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And you build up your resistance to it as I understand from the articles that I read there are

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investigations that are still ongoing

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But the working theory from what I read was that there was a wrong strain of polio that ended up in the vaccine

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So whatever that may mean it it's the same thing that super polio sure

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Yeah, but it happens from time to time you end up with in countries with no regulatory state with no regulations

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Evil though true there were places where they have no oversight in that way

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You do end up from time to time just by the law of averages

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You're going to have something where the wrong thing is in it. Yeah, and in terms of medicine, it's really high stakes

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So it's amazing that our quality isn't that great?

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Uh, it's like it's like we don't even have a quality control department. Wait, we don't. Oh, okay

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Well, then yeah

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No, it makes perfect sense and this is quite frankly one of the best arguments for some sort of globalization

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Quite frankly in terms of like if there are places that have really robust industries

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Like India does have a really large pharmaceutical production industry

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Uh-huh. So you have places like that, but they aren't up to the standards that other

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Countries have established you're only going to end up with a lot of potential problems

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Whereas if there were international regulations

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I mean you probably couldn't end up doing something where if it's produced in India and used in India

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You couldn't maybe oversee that but in terms of anything that's exported. Mm-hmm. I think those probably are in place already

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Yeah, that's why the only people who were hurt by this were kids in India, which is still bad still awful super bad

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Anyway, I don't I still don't know if this is even the story. I don't know

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We've been shipping them our romaine lettuce for years though. So I'm sure they'll be okay

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So I don't know if this is the story but Alex talks more about it and he gets even more severe

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tens of thousands of children are dying right now across America after they get the

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Shot for

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Polio and the government's ordering it covered up. Do you understand? This is a planned

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Program to test I'm explain how they run it

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thousands of children kill

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They want to kill your children. How could it's not thousands. It's tens of thousands. How could you possibly cover that up?

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I don't think you could it's not possible. I and I mean he's now sort of

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Closed in the scope of what he's talking about. Obviously, it's not that story out of India

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Although maybe he would try and use that later to bolster whatever story he's right, but I still don't know what article he's talking about

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I have no idea. I've nothing to go on except guesses

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So I looked around I found that there's also a December 10th article on ABC about a new mysterious disease

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That's been appearing that is in some cases paralyzing children according to the article quote

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Investigators of the current outbreak have ruled out polio finding no evidence of that virus in recent cases

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So it's something that presents similarly to polio but absolutely isn't polio at no point

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Like I said does Alex specify what article is responding to but seems like maybe it's this one

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I mean, it seems it seems pretty close to his second

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Sort of refining of the yes, but this isn't about polio

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It's about a condition called acute flaccid myelitis, which is is an enterovirus which polio is as well

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There are over a hundred other enteroviruses that are not polio that exist worldwide

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most of these aren't very serious and could be treated very effectively as is the case with many diseases the severity of the cases of

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Amf depend largely on detection and on the doctors being able to treat the condition

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All Alex is doing by making making people distrustful of doctors here

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Which is what he's doing is just making sure that people don't get appropriate treatment in time

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Also, this isn't caused by vaccine

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Quote severe neurological complications after EVA 7-1 infection. That's what doctors are speculating is what's

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Precipitating. Yeah, the AFM are so rare that a vaccine is not warranted. Dr. Vincent

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Rachaelo

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PhD a professor of the Department of Microbiology and immunology at Columbia University

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Explained quote remember that polio virus used to paralyze tens of thousands of children in the United States

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Which was the impetus for the polio vaccine before that they didn't have a reason to create one, right?

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so at this point what he's expressing is the whatever this is that's causing this is something that we don't it's so rare that

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We don't treat with a vaccine for it. Of course

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So the idea that the vaccine is precipitating this is nonsense and it's not polio. It's something else

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presumably a

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AFM

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It's it's an interesting thing and it's something that's on unfolding currently doctors are still a little bit up in the air about it

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But it's also not tens of thousands of kids and it's not killing most of them

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A lot of them have fairly minor reactions to it, but in severe cases it can cause paralysis

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Yeah, so I mean it's not it's nothing to minimize or or scoff at but the way Alex is using it

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Or appears to be using it because again, he could be fucking talking about another article or he could just be making some article up

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Definitely could be yeah

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But it seems closest and the way he's using it is super dishonest and all it does is actually make people less likely to

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Take care of the issues that they need to take care of because quite frankly, this is super important

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There is no cure for polio. There isn't one. The only thing you can do about it is

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Get a vaccine. There's only prevention since 1988

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The world has seen a 99% drop in cases of polio since they started working to try and eradicate it before then there were

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350,000 children coming down with it annually and this year there were

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27 whatever conspiratorial nonsense Alex is peddling is nothing even close to the scientific validity of that level of result

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I assume they everybody

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has

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autism though

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that everyone the only everybody has to have

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Because if they've if we've stopped how many hundreds of thousands of no millions millions millions upon millions upon millions of deaths

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I assume I mean through the use of a vaccine, right? I assume everybody has autism. It's a one-to-one, right?

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It has to be so in the past few years

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We've seen a resurgence of measles which had become very rare since the standard vaccines vaccination for it

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doctors are currently warning that we are facing a very real possibility that we will see the same thing with polio in the coming years because

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Again, there is no cure for polio

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The only way to handle it is through prevention with the vaccine

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Creating fear about vaccine is vaccines in general is really good for Alex's business

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But ultimately if more people listen to him and act on his advice, it's going to lead to pandemics

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polio is a real bad one because people can get it pretty easily and the severity of it is is

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Very high in a lot of cases. Yeah, so this is really irresponsible

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I I hate the thing that I hate most about this whole bullshit that he's on right now

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Is that there is a real-world corollary?

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That is that he could like just jump in there with just move a couple of words around and you're talking about Flint

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Like oh the the government is poisoning our water that fucking yeah, they're killing children fucking

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Yeah, there's an outbreak of Legionnaires disease that we have fucking

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Yeah, they're doing all of that and if Alex just just change the narrative

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It doesn't even have to but it's because it's mostly black people

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Yep, all you have to do you could Alex could do some real good. I do a money bomb

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For Michigan

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Yeah, I know. I don't have to make up a fake polio outbreak when you've got a real government

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Fucking disaster it kind of does suck

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I mean, he would probably agree on the point of Flint, but he just doesn't care to ever talk about it

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Well, which again we know like so in this next clip Alex talks more about this

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And again, all I have to go on is clearly

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the best context clues I can find and

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He just makes things worse

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And let's expand the Clinton's for over a decade knowingly shipped HIV and hepatitis blood out of the president's certified

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Why all over American the world they estimate more than 5 million people contracted HIV and hepatitis

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And most of them have now died 3 million plus dead. The Clintons did it on purpose. They love murdering people

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Hard break with Baltimore a plane there

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I'm guessing that they were crying a lot and that's why they love murdering people so much must be I mean we went over that

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Factor 8 story on a recent episode could be not too recent. I don't know I lose track of time

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I have no idea what day it is. Yeah, so that's all a lot of bullshit

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That is a tragic piece of American history. That is mostly Reagan's fault. No

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Clinton's Reagan was a great man and actually not Reagan's fault

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It was the industry's faults that would that were involved but also Reagan created the atmosphere where there was such a stigma

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about HIV and AIDS that

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Sort of thing was just taboo and not dealt with and absolutely could not have given less of a fuck when it was an issue

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Yeah, yeah, so I believe this is our last clip about the vaccine stuff

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And in this Alex is sort of trying to warn people that your kids are gonna get vaccines without your consent

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Oh, which is very weird. I'm fine with this remember that ladies and gentlemen with the peer pressure and they do all this

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We're trying to make it mandatory to do all this. They're trying to take the age of consent away

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For sex in California, but also saying they've done it. You know ten-year-olds can say no mommy

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I'm getting a $200 free debit card when I get my vaccines

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So your children can countermand the parents

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In California, and now that's going nationwide. Let me just plug real quick. Wait

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Without you funding us. We won't yeah, really easy to support us. We have store-wide free shipping

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I think that's probably a pretty soft ad pivot

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But it is still your kids are gonna turn against you and get these death shots that will give them polio because the globalists are

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Offering them $200 to get polio, but you know better, but you won't be able to choose for your kids

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We need your money and Schwarzenegger is apparently still got California, by the way

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big news what I

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Finally solved a mystery that has been plaguing me since we started this podcast and we'll be talking about it on episode next week

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It is the mystery of why does Alex Jones own the website Arnold exposed calm. I

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Finally solved the mystery. He owns the website Arnold exposed calm. Yeah

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Yeah, you get the Hardy boys in to solve this one. What happened there? Well, uh

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No, and I don't want to I don't want to spoil it. It's it's a wild story

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Okay, but the the you know, you can do a reverse search on people and see what web domains they own

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He has like info wars prison planet Jones report like all that makes sense. Yeah, Arnold exposed

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I'm like why the fuck does Alex running an anti Arnold Schwarzenegger site?

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Oh, it's actually no it's a site. It's not just the domain. Oh, yeah, there was a website set up about Arnold Schwarzenegger

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Really? Yeah, and I solved the mystery. So anyway, no

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No, Alex blamed him for something that he didn't do. Anyway, we'll get to that on next week's episode

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I hate to be a tease but

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The actual story of that is really weird, too

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So we're done with the vaccine stuff for now and like I teased at the beginning of this episode

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I Alex has a complete freakout break down on air

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Coming and it wasn't him saying I'm gonna cry and then I'm gonna kill people

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I feel like that is the beginning of a great rant when he starts that at the like sort of top of the episode when he's

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In when he comes in with that, you know that like he doesn't have the endurance to make it to hour three without losing it

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Uh-huh, man, he loses it hard. But before he does

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He says something that is probably one of the most grandiose things a person can say

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And I am your God now very close very close

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Like censorship you ask why do they?

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Pick off one and then pick off another and pick off another. Well, you just get sick of hearing about it and you

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Adapt to being prey you adapt and accept they're coming for you and everyone else accepts it and no one

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Organizes to fight it. This is this is the program

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but they've looked at the actuaries and the algorithms the number and they knew that info wars had triggered human survival instincts on a

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Global scale because of you spreading the word but because of my particular brand of truth

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Brand of truth the the tightness force Titans lost, right?

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But you remember that will to defeat the enemy is

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Is is strong and they found us together this operation not just me is able to break through the enemy like a battering round

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Sure, and we've blown major holes than operations before sure

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That we've crippled them how and so they've desperately slammed on the accelerator

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Which is even more dangerous because they got to get their program finished before we fully wake up. So they're accelerating the death now, so

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Okay, all that means nothing at the end. But the man what he is expressing is the reason they kicked me off

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Facebook and Twitter and all this is because they the globalist have

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Actuaries that have done some number crunching and figured out that Alex Jones is brand of truth

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Which is lying by the way is the only thing that is able to wake up and save humanity

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It's kicked in the survival response of humanity. That is

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flagrant narcissism I

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Also, I also don't know what that means

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Well, I'll tell you what it means it almost exactly what you said right before the clip. I am your god

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Yeah, I have the ability. I'm one of the only people because of my specific brand of truth. I'm

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Untruth what I am able to do is wake you up out of your slumber and remind you that you need to survive

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That's that is by my water fill. That's deeply deeply fucked up. Yeah, deeply cultic

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deeply just

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Follow me if you want to live. Yeah, that's that there's like a

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Psychological term for that something along the lines of malignant narcissism. I think oh you sound like his ex-wife

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That's just Ed McMahon's joke, oh

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Sorry, I didn't haven't watched enough Carson. No

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No on the old star search. He'd always do that anytime like there was a

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little girl

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Doing some star search shit. She'd be he'd be like and what do you what do you want?

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He's like, ah, you sound like my ex-wife, ah, it's a good bit. Yeah, so

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Didn't mean to be dismissive of you and Ed McMahon at the same time

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You were the one who did the bit though. It's fine bit. No, I wasn't even doing the bit

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I was saying literally you sound like his ex-wife. I know but that's never anyway, so in this next clip Alex gets to

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deeply deeply flawed

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understanding of the history of a certain

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men's organization

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In America, this clip is very KKK. Nope

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This clip is very fucked up

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But the truth of it is less fucked up and then the reality behind it is even more fucked up

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Get ready for a ride. Okay, you know what I say five years ago, and they said we're gonna have

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Gay scout leaders, I'm not against men that like men or vice-versa

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sounds like you are but when you want to place person who's into sex men that like the point in with a bunch of young

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Men or boys you're going to have sexual abuse just like the Catholic Church

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Oh, and now the Boy Scouts of America is set to go bankrupt because of all the lawsuits

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What do you think you do at the World Jamboree?

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Where they handed out condoms to young boys as young as seven with groups of men

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That would be freaky and gross if I showed up as an adult at some resort and there were

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10,000 people and they were handing out condoms to everybody. I'd be like, I don't want to get diseases

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What the hell is that? It would just sound you know

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It's like going to somebody's house in Hollywood and they got 20 hookers there and it's kind of obscene

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You're like you're talking about Charlie bowls of peanuts or something. I'm getting out of here

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But imagine you show up little kids are like bowls of peanuts

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Imagine little kids

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This is what we do. We're just gonna screw these little kids

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And then we're gonna blow up the Boy Scouts of America and we all let everybody do it cuz we don't want to be homophobic

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Come on in here screw my kid in the ass. It's alright. It's liberal. Okay, the block rockin beats is

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That sting is whoa

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Whoever is hitting that button has such a good timing too because like that the way it came in, right?

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Yeah, imagine imagine if you walked into that house and they're a bunch of kids looking like bowls of peanut

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It's almost like he has staff who's trying to work

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Somebody is fucking with them

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So this story that Alex is telling here is incredibly stupid for a number of reasons

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The first is that the Boy Scouts don't hand out condoms

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They're just available for people at the health centers that are a part of the event right the world Jamboree event

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Second this policy had nothing to do with the organization allowing gay scout leaders

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And in fact condoms have been available at scout Jamboree since at least 1992. They didn't allow homosexual scout leaders until

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2013

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Thirdly, this is probably a more important point

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The sexual abuse lawsuits that are potentially going to result in the Boy Scouts filing for bankruptcy have little to do with the fact

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That we're talking about here

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It's they have to do with the fact that in the 1980s the group was negligent in allowing a sex offender to be a troop

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Leader who then went on to abuse children in his group. All of these acts happened between

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1981 and 1988 and have to do with Thomas hacker who was arrested for molesting children at a scout campout in

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1961 then allowed to join other troops after the fact

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So there's a group of 15 people who are suing the scouts because of that in that they were negligent

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For having this person who they clearly had cause to know was a sex offender who had offended against children

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Yeah, repeatedly and they allowed him to be a scout leader in addition

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There's another lawsuit where four men are suing the Boy Scouts over abuse that happened between

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1974 and

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1976 there are a lot more current

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Instances of abuse in the Boy Scouts

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But the major lawsuits that they're facing right now have to do with events from decades ago before there were condoms and before gays were

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Welcome. Nothing that Alex is saying here is real. He's just demonizing both sexual health practices and the LGBT community by connecting them to a

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Completely unrelated issue of sexual predators

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unfortunately, probably accurately seeing the Boy Scouts as a place where they can easily find victims and

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Unfortunately in doing the research for this we don't need to get into

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there are a lot of

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instances of

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Abuse that's happened at the Boy Scouts. There are so many

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and Alex trying to conflate that into some sort of gay thing or

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Condoms being available thing is complete nonsense. It's it's so infuriating whenever that line of

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Bullshit shows up and you know, I don't have anything against men who like other men except before every single time

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I bring them up. It's because I'm talking about pedophilia

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Yeah

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and also the like

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The I don't have a problem with men who like men or vice versa

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Is that men that are liked by men and men who are like women? Yeah, what's the vice-versa about?

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I think he was trying to say what it around. Yeah, but like

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It's really funny and vice versa men who like other men right men who like men who like other men who are liked by

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God it's gross. It's so gross. It's fucking it's fucking awful. And it's it's it's just like that bullshit

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like oh, oh, I don't want a

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trans

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Woman using the women's bathroom because they're gonna attack my kids

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Trans people are the ones who get attacked. Absolutely every single fucking. Oh, I don't want I don't want these kids to go to this place

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where there are

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homosexuals

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youth group leaders molest more children than

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Anything like that or I mean it's I'm glad that we're finally all on board with the Catholic Church being a unholy

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monster of

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pedophilia, but

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Really? This is crazy. The problem in the Catholic Church church exists without them allowing gay

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Priests, I'm not sure if they do now. I haven't kept track of their rule

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No, they don't but the issue certainly exists without that. Yeah, the issue exists without them supporting condoms

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Yeah, so those two variables that Alex is trying to present as being important in the Boy Scout abuse history

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It clearly isn't relevant and the fact that he brings up the scouts and the the Catholic Church as like sort of parallel things

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The elements that he's trying to use to connect to them don't track so the inference doesn't track. It's complete nonsense

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Anyway, that is just gross that to me is gross discuss. I hate hearing stuff like that

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Although it is interesting because I had no idea that the Boy Scouts had condoms at the jamborees

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I did not know that either. 92 is crazy early for them to be on on that tip. Yeah, why? Well because there are adults

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There and also because some of the kids are of age, you know, right right on the state 17 is a is legal

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No, no, I didn't mean why do they have condoms like I guess I get why

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Because they don't just hang out with other Boy Scouts, right? I just mean like why in 92 did it start?

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I don't know. You know what I'm saying? It might have been an initiative that was put forth by

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Like some sort of like a World Health Organization or something like that and they got on board with it

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I don't know. It's it's interesting to me

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Yeah, I don't know the reasoning behind it

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But I it's very interesting to me if I had more time

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Maybe I would have we do a whole episode about the Boy Scouts being on

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Sexual health early tip. Yeah, that's weird. Although I don't know if 92 is that early but definitely

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Compared to so much of the rest of our lives. Yes, definitely earlier than you'd expect them

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institutionally, so now Jordan, we're gonna get to what is going to take us through the end of this episode

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there's a bit of an interview on this show and it is

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the

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Most recent instance of what Alex Jones likes to do

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So whenever somebody in the right wing has been disgraced someone has taken a hard beating

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Public eye because they're secretly liberals that that's the only thing that makes sense, right? No secretly global

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No, no, no, we saw this with Milo when Milo fell out of grace. Yeah

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Alex was quick to have him on his show in order to try and get some of that sweet sweet

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Attention that comes along with that person being deplatformed. Oh, he's Laura Lou. We're gonna be on there. No, don't worry about that

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Okay, thank God, but it this is the exact same thing once somebody is in the press enough

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Alex wants to come in and ride their coattails. Yeah

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So so the 30 year old who got kicked out of his parents places back now

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He's he's not in the news, but someone else is by the name of Gavin McGinnis. Oh, fuck me now

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in this interview

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There's a really interesting dynamic at play and that is that Alex wants to

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Fucking inspire Gavin and he wants to tell Gavin you need to get on your fucking bike and ride

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So it is the 30 year old all over it kind of is yeah, but it goes a very different direction

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You know in Pat Buchanan's book death of the West he talks about the the Frankfurt School and he says that they

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what they do is they call you race if some if an opponent becomes too much of a

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Hinderance then just call them Nazi and racist again and again and again and then they spend their time defending that and the

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They'd be they'd lose their pay change the subject chain, and we're just busy. Hey, go ahead

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I'm not racist and it worked. I mean if you say where could people find me nowhere. Thank God. I'm done

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He's coming on here and Alex is going to try and like be like you we're gonna you got a fight

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You got a fight and consistently Gavin's like no, I would done. I don't give a shit about this anymore

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And Alex is so mad about that. The dynamic between them is so hilarious to me. It's Gavin

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I don't I don't know if he's trolling Alex. I don't know what's going on. I hate Gavin McInnes

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I think he's a shit for brains. He is awful

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But in this episode, he's my hero. Oh, yeah, because he keeps

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Alex and it drives Alex to points of insanity. We have not seen in a very long time. All right

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I can't wait for that. So in this next clip Gavin complains about what the Liberals do. Oh, we do all this stuff

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They have this really sneaky media trick that they use in order to make sure that they appear to be humans

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While the rest of the people on the right don't

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And they're oh, I love that sneaky trick we have where we don't separate children from their parents at a border

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Well, it does have to do with children

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Here's another trick that that that left it does they threaten your family, right?

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So you don't want to ever be put pictures of their kids up

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So you look at someone like Chris Hayes Mark Ruffalo all these other activists. They they're in pictures with their kids and you go

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Oh, that's a human. That's a dad. That's a wonderful family person. But then with with you we can't show our family

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and then just use a picture where you're scowling like this and then you can make him more and more the villain dehumanize him more and

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More and then he can die. He can vanish if I didn't get rid of a person's voice. I got rid of Hitler

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Point of order Gavin McGinnis has featured his son in a number of the videos. He posts online

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Also point of order Alex has had Rex his son work for him at Infowars. Yeah on air broadcast

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Yeah, Rex was there when Alex chased out birdie Sanders at an airport, right?

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What the fuck are you talking about? You can't show your family. They were wearing Mission Impossible mask stand

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What are those perfect masks where you're like, oh, that's totally a different person and then surprise. It's Tom Cruise

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No one would have a problem at all. If they presented themselves and pictures with their family

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No one would get like they wouldn't get any more threats than people on the left do get by the way

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More yeah, they get way more. Oh, yeah, do these guys they can't possibly believe that stupid shit

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This has to be no, it's just this has to be like it's just outright like arguing for victimhood

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The two of them are outside of the Alex trying to inspire Gavin and being like no

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Outside of that the entire interview is about Alex saying that the proud boys are really awesome. They're heroes

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They're the victims and all this because Antifa keeps starting fights and the proud boys finish them and then at the same time them

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They're they want to walk the line of we are the greatest and strongest but also we're the victim of everything

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I don't understand how you can actually believe that though like because because all of that like because

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it that's not even true with the your your Antifa and the Proud Boys like the

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Well, they end up finishing them on the ground as the proud boys beat them up as a group exactly well

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It's the exact same thing the metaphor that dr

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Whitaker used in that 2009 episode we were talking about that strategy that he accuses the doctors of keeping people half healthy half sick

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It's the same thing. They know that they have to present this idea of half macho

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super-powered

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Western males who are ready here ready to fight but at this because they need that to get people interested in joining

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Right, but at the same time they have to have that half that is we're the victims of everything

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There's a conspiracy against us to explain why they're not successful in anything

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Because otherwise people who are attracted to the masculine power that they're presenting would it start asking questions of like?

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Why aren't you getting anything done? Why why is this just like?

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You know, it's it's the same strategy. You have to walk both of those lines and if you don't there is a problem

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You don't get recruitment without the masculinity and power and you don't get retention without the facade of conspiracy against you

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I I think that the the victimhood at this point probably

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Drives more people to the Proud Boys than that like the fantasy. I don't know

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Maybe is masculinity may but your reality is all these, you know, disaffected white

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nationalists are like

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Why aren't I allowed to do everything? I want to do and then they join a white nationalist group

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You're you're possibly right that the the the the victimhood part is an appealing piece of it

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but even in that case even in so much as that the

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Excuse me. The masculinity is the proposed solution to those exactly

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So that's still the enticing piece of it

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Even if spiritually what you're attracted to is the scapegoating and the excuse for your own in a fiction ineffectual

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Life. Yeah, what is really drawing you is the idea of these rowdy men who like to fight?

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That's the answer that is what will get me out of these feelings finally

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Meanwhile you join up and then you find out all those feelings are really what's motivating this and then you're sort of like wow

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Finally Dan finally a group of men

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Have come together and decided that violence will solve their problems. Yeah, that has always what I've been waiting

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It's been never happened before it's been awesome

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It's a time for the true awakening for men for once in human history to come together and decide that

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Violence will solve problems. Yeah, so in New York after that

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Meeting speech or whatever that Gavin did there was of course the incident that landed a bunch of his proud boys

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in trouble with the law and

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You know if you look at multiple angles of it that are synced up

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You definitely see what the the reality of the situation is that the proud boys were charging at these people

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One of them threw something at the people who are already charging at them and then a fight started

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So the idea that the proud boys were victims and that is ludicrous

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But that is the presentation that Gavin is going to put out onto the air here

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Antifa had been dispersed. They went around the block came back ambushed these guys through

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Pee at them again bush right and starts and starts winning

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They actually was kicking them when they're down if you watch the video and then the proud boys fight back and the cops go

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Are you okay to antifa? Do you want to press charges and they say f you pig and

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so that's just not that's just not accurate based on the video that you can find of the the incident and I

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Understand why he would say this that's his purse like him being on the show

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He has nothing to plug and he says he's done with all the shit

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So like all he wants to present is donate to help these guys because they're in legal trouble

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The only thing he plugs is the fundraiser for his proud boys. Uh-huh for their legal trouble. So it is in his best interest to

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Say, you know, they were the victims all this, you know present that that side of it

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and he even goes on to say that like his whole video where he disavowed and

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The stepped down from the proud boys or whatever. Alex is trying to present it as like they were threatening you

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So you did that and Gavin explains very clearly that the situation was in order for some group to be called a gang

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There needs the legal definitions require that they have to be committing crimes and there has to be a leader

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So if there isn't a leader, it hurts the argument that there's a gang. So his intention was to get on

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publicly as best he could to

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Step down as the leader of this group that he refutes the idea that he's leader of a gang or anything like that

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But if he did that, maybe it would help with their sentencing because the definition of gang wouldn't fit

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Right, very different than someone being like you step down or else that doesn't track though because wouldn't by

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Like him saying that he knows that this is why they would be considered a gang

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Suggest that he knew they were a gang prosecutors probably aren't listening to info Wars

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Yeah, he doesn't say that in the video where he steps down. Ah, he doesn't say well, of course not

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But I mean like that's what he's what he's essentially saying what he said

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He's admitting that he knew they were a gang and they are a gang

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He's admitted that before though like on his own show, right? So that's stupid like even on Rogan

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I think his direct quote was I started a gang. So like well, I mean there is something I

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There is something to be said about the fact that he unlike so many other

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craven stupid

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Opportunistic assholes is still holding a fundraiser for these these guys. Yeah, they're just abandoning them

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He could not I mean, I don't think that's I think that's the definition of cold comfort. Yeah

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Right. Yeah, you do kind of got to give a little bit of so many of these assholes would just like wash their hands

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I'd be like I I didn't even know that this got out of hand and it's not got nothing to do with me

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So I'm gonna distance myself from it completely

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I don't feel like Alex would go out of his way to help any of his

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Yeah, so there is there is like at least a kernel of Gavin that probably feels responsible

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For leading these people into these groups right and having created it and this is sort of the direct result of it now as much

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As he publicly wants to place the blame

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On antifa and stuff like that

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It would no matter what he's presenting and all that stuff

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Yeah, it is it is the lowest version of a compliment I can give him that he could have not done this

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He would not have suffered from not doing you get you get one more morality point than Alex Jones does

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Which still puts you at negative 10,000 think he's a bit above Alex

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Maybe not though actually one one point above Alex real hard to say

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Yeah, who knows what those points account for anyway, who cares?

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Let's not get bogged down because at this point

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I kind of got the sense that Gavin is on for the reasons

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I expected which is to rewrite the history of that New York event, of course

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Like just make the proud boys look like they're Western heroes and stuff like that

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Basically propaganda and then Alex is going to ride the coattails of Gavin is kicked off Glenn Beck's network

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That's a great moment for me. I can now take him and maybe try and get him on infowars

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Maybe I can or at very least having him on my show is gonna get me a lot of attention, right?

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So I kind of thought that was the game they're playing

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And I was I almost didn't want to cover it because I almost thought like you hate Gavin

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No one really likes Gavin that much but then Alex said this and I was like, wow, we gotta talk

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I mean, I've got to do this episode now

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I was just talking to Gavin the Guinness

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The founder of Vice

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Famous comedian

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What?

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They call him a male chauvinist and she doesn't think men are inherently bad. There are women inherently bad

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Like the left just tell us

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He's against all the race baiting. Kind of like a white Martin Luther King

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These stand for what people actually do not what color they are

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So that's why you're the horrible racist because the left has gone pure racist pure brainwashing.

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So Gavin McGinnis the white Martin Luther King

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man

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Alex loves to throw around different white people who are Martin Luther King or better. Yeah, it's strange

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How many white Martin Luther King juniors there are on that show man Wow

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Damn I feel like give me give me I'm not even asking for a ton of parallels

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I am just asking for two parallels between Gavin McGinnis and

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Martin Luther King jr. functional central nervous system. I don't know if that's a parallel

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Born in North America

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Nope, these are just facts. You're just naming facts similarities. I

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Don't know. I feel like I've seen enough of Gavin's show to know that

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Him and Martin Luther King have some pretty serious disagreement. Oh, would they have problems with each other? Yeah, I think so

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Hmm. I can't think of any no none at all there

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They might as well be the same guy if you get them together in a room

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It'd be like it'd be like fucking ebony and ivory man. That's what it would be. Yeah, go listen to any

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Compilation of clips of Gavin McGinnis and just imagine it in the flowing

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It's so easy to imagine Martin Luther King saying those things very easy so

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In this next clip in order to reinforce

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Gavin's idea that they're the victims of antifa the proud boys are the victims sure whole situation

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Alex helps him out by bringing up something that is complete bullshit

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And they can commit any crown they want you want to reiterate that this was staged stay were waiting

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But but my friend we got documents in January of this year

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11 months ago

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And it's been confirmed

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By a gentleman whose brother was an antifa his brother got in trouble and he went in there

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And he was he has battle commands from George Soros jr. Alexander Soros

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They described how they work with the police the areas they staged the events how they're trying to get black Americans to riot

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So they can bring martial law in we have martial law anybody can talk about documents tell plan

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Yes for civil unrest and martial law in Baltimore, and you read these these are real documents. This is what they do

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No, it's not and no it's not the these are the fake documents that he found on 4chan

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The this is this is crazy

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No because it proves everything that he thinks yeah, but he could just be like

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You know it like he doesn't have to say that it's not real or anything

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He just like he could just be way less specific

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Well, it is yeah. Well. I think it is interesting that he doesn't get the story wrong

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You know like yeah in a while

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And he does get the part about like it being a guy whose brother was right like all that stuff like you would think he

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Would sort of fuck those up or at least muddy them so it's harder to dig right figure out what he's talking about

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But now you yeah, but I think it's because it is the smoking gun to him like I think

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It like papers are always the smoking gun to him

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It's what makes his story work

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Yeah

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The idea that Soros is behind all of this and it's a plan in order to agitate to start a race war so all the

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People who are pro they seem to be pretty fucking white nationalist. Hey all of those people aren't bad

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They are just standing up to the agitations the actual

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race

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the actual white nationalist

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Uh George Soros right right right who also wants to bring in martial law totally so he so his plan

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So George Soros is plan they foment the race war which is start the race used to bring in martial law

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We're in Marshall. I'm taking Alex to a FEMA camp, and then they just don't have any plans after that

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It's really just about getting Alex in one of those camps. Yeah

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So okay, so you bring in martial law do you stop the race war them

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No, because what you do, then is you deploy race specific bio weapons. Oh

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Shit, this is starting to become a good plan. No, it's not I

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Mean we're filling in holes

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No, it's just another

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Dumb narrative that he has anyway Jordan

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Yeah in this next clip we get to what I would say is the reason for the season

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Christmas is coming early is it and this is to me to me there are a few things that just

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Fill me with joy when I listen to Alex and like it's really tough for me to sit here on this podcast

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And tell you that Alex Jones and Gavin beginners brought me a ton of joy

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but this next clip the dynamics at play are

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Fucking hilarious okay, but let's look at not

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I'm not thirty five thousand dollars. I'm not lawyer fees Gavin. I'm not trying to make points with you. You're a smart guy

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I've been through this I learned you know I had them like three years ago

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Just say say you're sorry the Sandy Hook parents cuz I figured out that I thought it happened

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You know they thought about babies and incubators the Iraq war also their fake stuff

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I never created the thing questioning it think people have a right to question anything they want

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But I looked at I said you know I think it happened cuz some of the Evans people brought up

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Turned out to not be accurate wolf king halving people might against wolf king either

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I just had to base a little game and said no. I think there's some people getting told PR stuff later

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That's what looks like acting, but I said I think this happened

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Holy mackerel dude when I said they just said just say you're sorry you thought it happened. I said that

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It's in

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Penthouse this month. It's all over the news Jones won't say he's sorry

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He's sending people to their houses right now to bully and attack them

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No one's saying that they're just saying that because of the rhetoric that he perpetuated

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People have been showing up and harassing these people

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And then they put the people on TV lying saying I'm currently doing that when I never did it

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I just learned that that's what the left does they come to you, and they tell you oh just be reasonable

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We have humanity, and it's all a setup. It's all a setup man. It's not the families

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I blame it's these lawyers and these prosecutors because they've learned how to use our humanity to manipulate us you guys are heroes

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You're a hero the the Proud Boys have never gotten arrested anywhere

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They get attacked by meth head professors and in city employees and black outfits. They fight back

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They valiantly kick their ass your heroes valiantly instead you have to take on you're a hero like George, Washington

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You have to take it on the persecution, and you have to never then think that they're actually trying to compromise. They want you

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Destroyed the day you are not a pedophile. They were successful. I'm destroyed

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Yeah, we'll see about that

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Stronger faster

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Stephen Hawking

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Appropriate that he played wipeout at the end

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Somebody is fucking with it

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Somebody is fucking with him. He gave a two-minute lecture about how like you know when you say sorry

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That's when they attack you the most because they try and manipulate your humanity. Well. I fucking worked. I'm done. Yeah

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They destroyed me uh

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No, you'll come back bigger and stronger and faster. Nope not the six million dollar man

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I'm Stephen Hawking my revenue streams are gone

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I can't even hold down a job with Glenn Beck's weird outfit. I'm out I

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Can't go back to rebel media. I love I love how Alex you can't afford me

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That's actually I was I was like how desperate would Gavin have to get before he joins him for wars

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I don't know. I think he I think I

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I hate to say that I believe him in terms of him saying I'm out or whatever

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but I could easily see someone like him being like I

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Kind of see the consequences of this line of fascism that I've been going down

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Yeah

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Because it doesn't like as much as he is a monster and he's led like these really horrible things

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there is a kernel of him that always seems to

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Think that he's joking like he thinks he's Joe. Yeah. Yeah, so I

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I well, he is a famous comedian Dan famous famous comedian

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I think that he could walk away from this not to like any like shores of credibility or anything like that

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Right, but he could walk away from this and get a fucking job at like doing construction

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I don't know. He's still rich as fuck, isn't he? Yeah. I mean, he should be if he's not he fucked up

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, cuz he made a lot of money when he was bought out at Vice

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Yeah, I was gonna say I I assume he didn't invest that all in proud boys

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I considering that it did he did he made a lot of money off the right, right

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But he said their legal fees were 35 grand, right? I think it's 350

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350,000. Okay. So I thought he said

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35,000 he was trying to just rebut Alex's like points of like you got to keep going though

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He's like what is it worth it? Right all this shit. I don't know

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it's tough for me to delight in someone else's misery or anything like that, but I

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can also say like

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hearing him say, you know like

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These are the consequences of going down this line and I'm not into it. I can I can say yeah

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I see where you're coming from now in this next clip

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We learned something really fucked up about Gavin something that I could not have ever imagined

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He technically probably killed a guy. No, he's older than Alex what?

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Also, this clip starts with with six million dollar man, yes

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Yeah, but also it starts with them having an exchange that I think that they thought was off air

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Listen they know you have humanity. I put your friends in prison. You guys made some mistakes

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I don't want to be a control freak in your business. What were the mistakes to me?

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Thank you Alex Jones

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Coming to you live from the front lines of the info. Listen to me

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You're 48. I'm 45, you know more than I do about a lot of things. We talked about our kids last night for three hours

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Women all of them. It's that I've already been higher up the mountain and been through the same attacks

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It's all it's all wrote. It's all blueprints

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So I'm telling you I used to be like you and I thought oh I'll signal this I'll be nice that they take that as blood

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And they Alex we're on air. I think Alex we're on it. I think he didn't realize his mic was hot

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No saying like you made some mistakes. Yeah. Yeah, thanks. Did I make that doesn't answer that question? Nope, that's nuts

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That's wild stuff and that's crazy cuz I mean Gavin doesn't look good, but he looks better than Alex Oh Alex looks like shit

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Yeah, although although I did see a picture of him years younger than Gavin McGinn

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Almost 50. I did see a picture of him and his beard is not as terrible as it once was

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No, that is it's unfortunate, but I will I will give it. I mean, that's why we've stopped shitting on it so much

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Yeah, it's not it's not the awful victory beard. He had before. Nope, but it is also like yeah

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You spent a lot of time on that. Yeah. Yeah

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He has the look of someone who takes a long time in the mirror

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Getting those getting just the right line. It's well, it's well. Well, you might have got a guy garden, but hired a guy

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Who's also doing the music for a show I

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I really wish I really wish Alex would have answered that question. What mistakes I really want to know what it is

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Interesting to think I want to know what mistakes Alex thinks they made. I don't think he does think that I think that was a

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Rhetorical way of getting out him to listen to him you think yeah

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I think that was just Alex using language like he made some mistakes and don't blame yourself. Don't kick yourself

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Right back up and be the trooper that I know you can be trying to trying to do the dad thing

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Yeah, a man who's apparently three years older than him nuts

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So up to this point

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I've been selling this pretty hard this idea of like this dynamic being really fucked up and we've seen like a couple things

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Already the like long pep talk and then the I'm done like that that sort of thing which is on its own very funny

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hilarious, but this next clip is really where everything comes to a head and Alex has a

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Profound breakdown on air

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Standing up for yourself. I understand, but I also know you can't believe how corrupt they are

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You can't believe how they lie and you can't believe deep down. You don't feel sorry for yourself. You can't believe America is putting up with this

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I

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Just I have a few TV stations. Call me in radio station. They go. Will you please not show or play?

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Three-year-olds putting money in g-strings of fat men wearing wigs shaking their asses and I go

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Okay, I'll quit for you, but you understand this is being shown to children adults need to know what the hell's going on

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They go. Okay. Actually, you're right. But well people complain I go I know they need to complain

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They should complain about the children

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Being asked where got

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Not me showing you you think I like seeing this crap you think it doesn't piss me off

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Let me tell you I'm ready to kill people I'm sick of this. Oh boy not literally the point

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nice, nice try

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That's one attitude another

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Give all our kids god damn it. Excuse me. Mm-hmm

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You know, I'm not saying Lord's name in vain. I want these people down to hell. I'm literally praying god damn them to hell

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That's not the Lord's name in vain. I mean that I don't take God's aid

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That we ought to have a prayer called the god damn it prayer god damn

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You think Charlton has seen the pain

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When he realizes this is earth and all his family died

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10,000 years before and he's come back through a wormhole and everybody knows is dead and he's saying god damn them to hell you

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Bastards you blow it all up. God damn you

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He's not taking Lord's name in vain

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He's saying god damn them

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God damn them

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God damn them

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Doing all right, Alex? You seem upset

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Thanks for these vaccines everywhere that eat their frickin cerebral cortex

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No, I'm not really familiar with vaccines

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Now Gavin is not a famous comedian, but there's some pretty good timing in there. He's got some good timing. That's pretty good

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The uh, you seem upset you seem upset is great. That's great. The also the that's one way of looking at

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Like attempts to deal with Alex when he's in this like like just roid rage freak out nonsense

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You can't even imagine what it would be like sitting there in studio with him when he's out screaming

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Goddammit them over and over and over again trying to justify his use of goddamn on the radio

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I'm not using the Lord's name in vain sure. I'm ready to kill people

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Not literally, uh, I'm ready to kill people wait

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My brain just had a thought and that thought is don't say that out loud that's on the air

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That's the second time of this episode. He's talked about straight-up murder. Yeah, I think he wants to kill people

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I think he might want to kill people. He actually wants to kill people then he starts growling. Yeah, that's

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That to me like when I heard that first of all

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I was like my mouth was open my jaw hit the floor when he launched off on that for no reason

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Yeah, I don't why why is he doing that again?

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Well because he's trying to demonstrate about how like the problem isn't you

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The problem is that you can't believe that the world doesn't see this as a problem

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So when I mischaracterize drag queens cross dressers and trans people and make them all out to be pedophiles with my propaganda nonsense

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The radio stations come to me and they're like, hey stop doing that. I'm like, no

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And then he gets into wanting to kill people. Yeah, so we can kind of that's quick. Yeah, it's it's

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You like I do like the way he put that story of the radio stations

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So when I they asked me not to put this stuff out there and I'm like no

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I needs to be out there people need to see it. Well, we're getting a lot of complaints people need to be complaining

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Yeah, you're right, but please stop it

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Just like

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Mollifying just hey, you're right go away. Stop it. Oh stop it. I'd love to see that email chain, by the way

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I'd like to foil that

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The other thing though, what made me lose my shit while I was listening to this was how he went into Planet of the Apes

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Like that to me is so funny because his trick of always talking about movies always is hilarious

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but the way the the this the quickness the the immediate like a talking Planet of the Ape

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fuck

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And you got it wrong you get your

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Maniacs, he didn't say bastards. No, and he's talking about the get your hands off me you damn damn dirty ape

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What's the quote at the end of the movie and remember keep in mind the Mandela effect might have changed your memory?

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Oh, that's a good question. Um, oh

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No, hold on. I think I got it. It's got you though, right? I have a dream

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that

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one day apes and man will live comfortably in harmony despite the fact that man

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Obviously set off a chain reaction of nuclear weapons that destroyed the entire planet

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I don't play it to the age of apes. No blame the apes. I don't understand who who is

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Really the victim here

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Alex might not have seen all five of them

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You would not like that. Oh man beneath the Planet of the Apes is a profoundly fucked up movie. Sure

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I love it as is well, it's not a movie

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But this next clip is profoundly fucked up this this to me was like so that was that was sort of the meat of

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Alex's freakout it goes on a while though. Yeah, and it leads to this which this is a mic down because this to me

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in one minute's time it walks the gamut of like

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Really fucked up really hilarious and just almost blasphemous to a certain extent. Oh

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I had a huge epiphany

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My grandmother when I would see something really horrible. I'd say Jesus you think I'm in vain. That's some weird brainwash Baptist thing

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I love God. I'm in it. I'm involuntarily calling on Jesus when I see them sexually brainwashing children. I'm saying Jesus save us

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Need to call on Jesus Kevin. I've been doing a lot of praying past month

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Sure

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I'll get into a rage. I apologize

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But I really don't I got a plug Ringo bankrupt the enemy totally trying to shut us down

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The enemy all they ever say is we're not real because they know damn. Well. We're real 100% 100% folks. I'm ready

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I'm I'm trying to figure out how to beat these people every damn second

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Because my very cells cried against them my very spirit is just on fire

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To defeat these people and I want to spread the fire of liberty into your mind and others minds. It's not my fire

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It's God's fire

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And I knew let me tell you something you ask Christ in your heart not the fake devil you get these churches

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But the real Christ you'll be on fire as well, and it's not a god of weakness. It's a god of strength

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And of overcoming these people

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And I need your financial support so I can expand and support others and the work

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They're going to do that's to add pivots man. That's crazy. That is whiplash have we ever seen such a thing?

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He he did a double Lindy into a back reverse ad pivot

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That's a eyebrow fake kind of like basketball maneuver is like you think this is the ad pivot now. It's coming a little bit later

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Oh, man. Yeah, that's that was a euro step dance. You start with it's time to pray

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It is time to pray though Gavin. Would you like to pray with me?

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Yeah

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We gotta sell stuff we'll do it after the break cuz I need to sell some things

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Everyone's probably real excited about the idea of us praying together, so we got their juices going

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I'm gonna sell some shit and get the fire of God not this fake God the real God

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I I need your money. I could not love that

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Like I own the real Christ nobody else knows anything about Christ the way that I know Christ

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And if you let the real Christ in you'll know exactly his power the truth the majesty of it

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It's time to pray now. I need money a very

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Christlike way, huh? I am going to ask you for your money

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You know what's really fucked up to is like that sort of mentality exists on the same show where they demonize

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Gnosticism I I will never ever

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understand people who claim ownership of Jesus and yet

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Clearly know nothing about what he was about right right?

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That's that's on anybody tell him that he was a Middle Eastern Jew, but I will lose his mind

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I think that's our main complaint all the time with when people use this sort of rhetoric is is not

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It's a complaint about the I don't know. I don't know what I'm saying. Anyway, I want to get to this next clip because

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so

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They promised they were gonna pray

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They don't pray. Oh, thank God. I didn't want to hear him pray. They don't end up praying

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They forget about it start talking some shit and when they come back, which is a certain type of prayer

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There's a Gavin gets into hey, they're trying to turn women into men, but women you're bad at being men

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That's sort of like he's a famous comedian famous comedian. This comedian is good stuff

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And so instead of actually getting to praying Alex wants to do something else

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That's a I'm gonna kick your ass. You don't get back on there. Let's just have a fight. We come back

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Okay, so last break you were going out to break with saying you're gonna pray when you come pray together. Yeah, we're gonna fight

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this is

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such a

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Rapid like this is like a walk through Alex's brain as all the doors keep opening up and you see the nightmarish hellscapes

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It we inside each one. It's prayer. You open the door prayer and you're like, I don't want to go in there

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You're in this this room that's decorated really serenely, you know, like it has a real ethereal spiritual quality

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Oh, but people are just screaming at you

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Weird, it's not like prayer. It's really angry prayer

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I

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Go through another door and it's the fight room but everyone is super happy

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No one's happy. No one's fighting. They're still just yelling

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They're yelling about how great this fight is gonna be that never happens then you were like, I'm annoyed by this

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So you leave that room and you keep going then there's the crying room. Yes, because that's obviously the next thing

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That's where you murder people went to the crying room. That's where people are straight-up

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Faking crying everyone's trying to experience an emotion and they're really overdoing it. You're like again

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This is a very annoying room in Alex's brain proceed through that murder. Yeah murder room

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Yep, you go into that next room and it's just murder town

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Don't go into the fourth room fourth room is Alex pretending that that murder was technically not his fault

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It's just him laying over a dead body going like why god, did you make me kill this man?

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I'm not responsible. That's not me. Yeah, it's you guys. That's what I assume. The doors are like

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Yeah, this is a psycho drama that's playing out on this show 100 is nuts and I think it's all precipitated by

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Gavin not playing ball with Alex's wanting to be his dad

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Yeah, like it is the thing where it's like I've been through this I can help you with this

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I know where to go. I know what to do. Just listen to me. I'm done

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Well now I gotta yell about killing people

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That's the only way for me to do it it does it does seem like a complete

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What I mean, yeah. Yeah, you're right. It's 100% a reaction to that particular type of stonewalling. Yep from somebody who Alex

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Respects like yeah truly and just to just to like see that

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Inability to directly attack Gavin is why we're going through all of these

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Different because if it was somebody who wasn't fucking Gavin or some other, you know, he would just start going after them, right?

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I think he do know he did fairly

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Well, I don't know he did do that sort of with Mike Rotondo

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Yeah year old who wouldn't move out of his parents house when he was sort of not playing ball

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Alex did get a little abusive, right? Yeah, he can't really with Gavin because Gavin has clout

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So Kevin has a fan base exactly

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So he keeps trying to find a different avenue to put all this awful energy when it goes into murder

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It goes into crying it goes into I think selling shit

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but I also think that the reason behind that is that Gavin is one of the few like

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Close to mainstream like he's not mainstream, but he's pretty popular

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People who Alex still has access to who will like right maybe be an ally right keep Milo's pathetic now

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He's not gonna I don't think Alex is gonna go out of his way to like try and court Milo's

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Juice, and then the other people that he has on his fucking show are like

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Rappaport Anthony Kumiya

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The the

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Exactly Fox Day. Yeah, you know like these these people and and who's the other Oh the fourth hour is hosted by

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Hagman and Hagman from the Hagman report what they have a YouTube show wait

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So Doug Hagman and whoever the other Hagman is I can't remember his first name

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They do the fourth hour fun little trivia about Doug Hagman and the other Hagman they have this show

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frequent guest of that show

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coach Dave Dobbin Meyer

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Yep

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six degrees of separation

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Yeah, and Hagman's been on coach Dave's show. It's all very very closely connected

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Jesus yep, so it's almost like there's a shadowy cabal of right-wing lunatics who all know each other

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Yes on each other's shows a shadowy cabal fucking spread right-wing propaganda. It's not a shadowy cabal. It's more of like a

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Multi-level marketing

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That's a great way of putting it yeah

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So we have one more clip left, and it's we already heard Alex say that he believes

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Gavin McGinnis to be the white Martin Luther King and we get to this next clip

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And this is when Alex is sort of let the demons recede inside himself, and they're having more of a normal conversation and

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Gavin brings up something that he really fucking shouldn't about the civil rights movement. Oh, no

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I think it goes back to the Freedom Riders no

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We're inarguably cool

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So real quick what he's talking about is like these antifa people are trying to latch on to that idea

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Then they think that that's what they're doing

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They're being like the Freedom Riders the Freedom Riders of course they want to be like because they're cool. They're cool

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They're cool hold on

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It was cool of them to go to the segregated south with blacks and whites and get beat out of them and say we're not

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Gonna stand up to for sure it was like brave

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It was Gandhi yes, yeah, and they had suits on and bloody noses, and I think people look at history books

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And they go I wish I had a concert you want to say brave. Oh really well, okay?

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So that was incredibly cool. Sorry that's done now America's not a racist anymore

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There's no you can't be a Freedom Rider. You're not Nazis

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So this is a mess yeah

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It is it is complete lunacy for Alex and Gavin McGinnis to be talking positively about the Freedom Riders because

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The story of the Freedom Riders strongly undercuts the entire idea of states rights

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You see the reason that the Freedom Riders had to do what they did was because the southern states were engaging in

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Non-enforcement of Supreme Court decisions that ruled that segregated public spaces like buses were unconstitutional

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In response people challenged the segregation and were beaten and arrested by police and civilians alike

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They brought attention to the reality that the larger public didn't want to see and because of their actions the argument that the civil rights

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Movement was making was immeasurably strengthened they showed specifically and clearly how violence was being used to uphold the system of segregation

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And was a huge part of the passage of the Civil Rights Act a few years later

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Alex and literally everyone who has inspired his path in life hate the Civil Rights Act and the thing is

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That something like the Civil Rights Act was necessary because states were hiding behind states rights arguments to ignore rulings about human rights if

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Alex and Gavin McGinnis were around in

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1961 Alex would have been on the radio yelling about how the Freedom Riders were

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Agitators who just hate white men and how the Congress of Racial Equality was funded by Soros

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Gavin McGinnis would be leading groups of Proud Boys to intimidate the riders into accepting the status quo

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Which incidentally is exactly what the Ku Klux Klan did back then

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That's what they would have been doing in that circumstance

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There is no doubt about it now if you want to say that some of these people who are you know?

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Protesting for equal rights with four women people out at the Women's March

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Maybe some of them are doing it to put it on Instagram sure

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Who gives a shit? Yep who gives a shit?

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That doesn't undercut the point of the the protest or anything like that

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You want to say that some people are posers some of your Proud Boys are posers

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You know you know who cares that argument doesn't hold water. It doesn't mean anything

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What does mean something is what's behind the principles of the things and?

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The principles that Alex Jones and Gavin McGinnis put into the world very clearly mirror the people who were against the Freedom Riders in

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1961 oh there is no way away from that and the fact that Alex's intellectual predecessors the people he cites is his

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Inspiration for the path he took in life were the people who were against them in the 60s

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It it I hear shit like this, and I'm just like this is offensive. This is this is like trying to co-opt the

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the positive history of change without having to

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Live a life in accordance with the change that they brought

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Yeah, it's a bummer I

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in every possible way it is

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condescending to the Freedom Riders like

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What you really that's your adjective for the Freedom Riders? Well? I agree. They were cool. That's not where I would start

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That's where you're gonna. Go. Oh, man. You know what I think of when I think of the Freedom Riders very cool

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Cool very legal cool dudes. I think of poochy the dog. That's what I think of spuds Mackenzie

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Yeah, exactly what the fuck are you and yeah?

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That is a good point declaration that oh well you can't be the Freedom Riders because racism is over

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So we live in a post-racial

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Which is the same like even the watered-down people during the civil rights era weren't even the ones who were like hey?

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We don't need to kill black people

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They're they're like why are you against this racism solved see segregation now?

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We don't have to deal with it racism is over. We what what oh you guys want to be the civil rights

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We're North versus South this slavery is over guys

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You can't be as cool as the fucking

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Civil war like yeah

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Fuck you

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And if Gavin wants to make the argument that progress has been made and meaningful progress has been made no

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I'm going to argue with that there's damn right true

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But we're like a generation or maybe two past that point. You know like since the Freedom Riders time yeah, and

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You do have to recognize

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No matter what kind of a shithead you are if you want to live in reality you do have to recognize

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The diminished rights in terms of owning capital owning property those sorts of things that were applied to

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Minorities in that time especially in the south

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You have to recognize that that still exists the effects of that or lingering to this day

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And if you reject that if you deny that then you're not living in reality. I mean don't even bother look hey

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Let's let's say that we're moving past the Freedom Riders or whatever so that that whole thing is done. Uh

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when did the

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official federal policy of redlining end it was

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long long after that that it not we're not even talking about just the

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Economic urban renewal yeah, we're talking about stuff that has been going on and is still going on in order to

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Financially yeah, depress black people great, so it's like the races were like fine

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We can't kick you off the bus

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You're not allowed to live here here here

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You're not allowed to own this that or that and our president was actively involved in that when he was

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He was a real estate guy, so that's pretty cool. Yep

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Hmm. Oh, it's so they defend that president. Oh, no no no come on come on. He's totally cool

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Hey, no, no he's he loves the Freedom Riders. Yeah. He just doesn't want him to own or exist and yeah

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But it's good that we live in a post. We're past it. It's we're all over it. It's all good now

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You can't be a Freedom Rider anymore. What are you fighting against and there's just nothing to fight against

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So this brings us to the end of our present-day episode

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It's an interesting couple days or Alex's way off base on a lot of stuff

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I think I think that in terms of a Gavin McGinnis appearance that is about as painless as it's gonna be yeah

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Yeah

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I did cut out a lot of him just saying stupid stuff because I think the broader picture of

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Alex really trying to pep him up and being like no yeah, and Alex freaking out about it is much more important

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I think that's the real story in this is that Alex is still trying to recruit allies or retain allies

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In the ideological struggle and Gavin is pretty much over it doesn't really want to doesn't want to

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Get in the water and Alex sees that as a threat to his own ability to get back on Facebook

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I guess I mean it's like if they can you know if they can beat this guy that I

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Admire or respect well. He's his elder. Yeah

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If they can beat him they can beat me so I have to make sure he's not beaten

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Otherwise, I'm gonna have to admit to myself what everybody else already knows

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Which is that I am beaten to the writing is on the wall. Yeah, and

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Once that trade agreement gets ratified we might see a massive change in Alex

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We'll see I don't know but all in all his show is still incredibly boring

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I should say that like I know that it seems like I say that on

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modern day reminder

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The show is still terrible well like in terms of my week

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You know the work is you know finding something interesting to talk about for Wednesday

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Going into the past for Monday, and then doing the present stuff the present stuff is what I dread the most

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Because I know it's just going to be hours of

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I know you know you'll listen to two hours of shit, and then he'll lie about the Boy Scouts, and I'm like ooh

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That's not how I want to live my life

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So the present-day episode suck in the his show they're stupid and boring. I look forward to him making some sort of real change

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But I don't know for now. Don't know don't know don't know don't know don't know

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No, no, no just wants some block rockin beats and his rhetoric, but we have a website

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Oh, yes, we do have a website. It's knowledgefight.com. It is indeed. We're on we're on the Twitter's

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That's true. I haven't been kicked off yet. There. We're there. We're on the Facebook. Yep

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We have a group called go home tell your mother you're brilliant. We're on iTunes

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Subscribly review I heard that

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Reviews are important and also it's like they don't count listens as much as they do downloads, right

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I don't know something like that. I don't know I

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Don't know. I'm just hearing things. Yeah. I know you hear all sorts of stuff

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I don't know how iTunes works in terms of its

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I don't ever expect it will be anywhere ranked on it, and I don't really even give a shit, so

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Please download listen do do all the stuff that you want to do, but are the number one Alex Jones podcast in your heart

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Yep, whether or not iTunes says a goddamn thing. That's what you need to know. They don't have tracking for that

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I think they're actively working on making sure they never have tracking for that yeah

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What else we got oh, oh well I mean

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Gavin has almost certainly been at least the inspiration for

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The death of somebody maybe um so we can't do that Ed McMahon

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You can't prove anything fair enough. Oh wait. I thought you were gonna accuse him of murder

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He probably hasn't killed anybody as best we know although it was a wild time in Hollywood back when he was alive

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Press time we have no evidence that Ed McMahon has ever killed anybody

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But one guy technically probably has and that is Alex Jones

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Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Oh Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you