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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes that like to sit around,

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drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Indeed we are.

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Dan?

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Yep.

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Dan?

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Hi.

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Oh no, I think I just lost all of my questions.

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Oh no.

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I think I'm out of questions.

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You are the world's worst interviewer.

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I think I've literally asked you every question that I want to know the answer to.

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Is that right?

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Now every question would just be so pillar for lowest nonsense.

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Wow.

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The list of questions you had wanted to ask me.

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When'd you swim first?

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Eclectic.

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It was an eclectic mix.

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Some baseline questions.

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Well, we don't need to start with an interview, that's not necessary.

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All right, all right.

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When was the last time we didn't start with an interview, Dan?

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Today, wow.

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I mean before today.

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Yeah.

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Maybe two months ago before you started doing that.

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Why did I do this?

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I got to find a new opening bit.

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Yeah, you got to.

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Oh, but a good way to open the show probably instead of a dumb bit is to say that I know

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a lot about Alex Jones.

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I only know what you tell me.

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That's correct.

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Jordan, today we got an interesting episode ahead of us.

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Didn't have to say dumb bit.

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We call everything we do dumb.

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Takes the sting off.

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So we got a fun episode to get to today, but before we do, I'd like to take a little moment

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to thank some of the people who have joined up in supporting the show.

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Very excited to welcome, first of all, Matt.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much, Matt.

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We appreciate it very much.

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Someone else who has just joined up and become policy wonk, I'd like to thank them very much.

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Thank you, Ari.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Welcome aboard, Ari.

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Always glad to have more wonks aboard this seaworthy vessel that we call a podcast.

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Not the sea org worthy vessel.

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That's a very different vessel.

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Certainly are not.

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We do not throw anybody off this vessel.

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No way.

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Unless you're mean to women, I suppose.

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Yeah, then you're out.

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Yeah.

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Before we get done with these shout outs, these here nautical shout outs, we got to

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give a couple thank yous to people who were donating and bumped their donations up a little

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bit.

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No shit.

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Very excited about this.

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So you were once a policy wonk, but you are now a globalist.

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Thank you so much, Andrew.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Thank you so much, Andrew.

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Thank you so much, Andrew.

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To the point where now that you've bumped it up and you're a globalist, even if you

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are Andrew Wright from elementary school, I think it's fine now.

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It's okay.

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This has come up more than once, man.

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You might need to talk to somebody about this Andrew guy.

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You cannot hear the name without getting mad about elementary school or some shit.

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Um, but, uh, much like Andrew, uh, has come from the larval stage and grown into a butterfly

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that is a globalist.

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So too has Josephine and we thank you so very much.

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You are now a globalist.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Thank you, Josephine.

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Thank you, Josephine.

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And just like all larvas that, uh, uh, grow into butterflies, it requires a small amount

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of money every time caterpillars gotta pay.

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That's how nature works to everybody who supports the show.

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We thank you so very much.

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Um, you know, and even people who don't support the show, I've been thinking about, uh, the

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beginning of, uh, H to the Izzo a bunch, you know, that, uh, anywhere in the world, there

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are a lot of podcasts you could listen to and, uh, people listening to us spending that

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time with us is very, you know, that means a lot.

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And I, I thank you all for, uh, spending your time with us.

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We appreciate it.

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Uh, y'all out there.

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Uh, anyway, Jordan today, um, look,

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are you breaking up with me on air?

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Is that what's happening right now?

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We've had a good run.

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Uh, no, uh, today it's difficult for me to describe what I'm doing today, quite frankly.

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Um, and that's because, uh, here we are, we're starting this as a Monday, uh, episode starting

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off the week.

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A lot of the times we'll start off with a, uh, 2009 episode.

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Yeah.

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So everyone's palette isn't ruined, uh, for the week and we don't, uh, cause too much

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distress.

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Uh, but I'm listening to, uh, some of March, 2009 and I'm, uh, realizing that, uh, Alex,

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uh, immediately has jumped into some territory that's going to require a lot of research.

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I am not prepared to do the next 2009 episode without reading a couple of books because

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he says some really specific bullshit gets into some world war II revisionism.

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Oh, that's not good.

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I need to dig my teeth into before we go over.

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So that's not ready.

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That'll probably be ready.

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You know, cake will be baked by the end of the week or so, but I'm not prepared to do

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it today.

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Also, I don't want to start the week off with a project Camelot episode.

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We could, that's a wacky Wednesday.

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We could have called that audible, but we got to save that for the middle of the week

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when people need a good laugh, when they need their spirits raised.

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So I was in quite a quandary as to what I should do.

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Um, and I started to notice that there's a little bit of attention being paid to the

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Soros myth, uh, in other media.

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There's a number of other, I think, I believe I saw an article in the daily beast about,

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uh, how the Soros, uh, antagonism and the pointing the finger at Soros is just a new,

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new updated version of antisemitic shit that's been going on forever.

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It's just something that we've talked about.

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Way to get, way to get on board a couple of years, uh, you know, afterwards.

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Thanks.

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I'm not saying that they haven't pointed out some stuff like that before, but it was a

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new article.

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And, uh, you know, they're making the argument that this in hindsight could eventually be

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called the Soros era of antisemitism.

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Yeah.

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And that's conceivably true.

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I think there's probably a pretty good, uh, uh, you know, we make it out of this thing.

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We'll look back and be like, wow.

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In the same way we look back on like Henry Ford publishing the protocols of the elders

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of Zion, we'll look back on the people who pushed the Soros narrative in the same, like

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each kind of light.

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I think we will, if we get our bearings back.

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Yeah.

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Somehow it'll be worse though, because the Koch brothers will also have paid for the

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end of the world.

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Maybe, but that's what I'm saying.

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If we avert that somehow, if humanity pulls it together, maybe we'll have a chance at,

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uh, perspective and hindsight.

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Ha ha ha, when things are written upon stone tablets once more, Dan.

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Well, then we'll write about how Alex was a dick about the Jews or something.

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Um, but so I've been reading these articles and then there was also, of course, uh, I

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believe it was last week, might've been a little bit before that time blurs these days.

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Yeah.

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But Rudy Giuliani, the lawyer to the president of the United States retweeted something.

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America's mayor.

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About how Soros is demonic.

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What?

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You didn't see that?

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What?

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I'm off all the social media.

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Are you telling me?

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I still think that got written up in a lot of places.

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I could have crossed your desk.

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Generally speaking, any kind of like Trump, uh, related gossip, try to avoid it.

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I'm just like, fuck this.

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He's going to do crazy shit.

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We just all have to deal with it.

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Why are we, why are we even bothering?

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Throw, throw, throw tomatoes at him and then, then we'll talk.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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So with the, with the Kavanaugh hearings, with that Supreme court nomination, there

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were a lot of people who were coming out of the woodwork, uh, and pushing a much more

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publicly than is sometimes done.

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The idea that Soros is paying off the protesters, which has been a trope that's been used with

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every single left leaning, uh, cause, uh, of the last many years, you know, the parkland

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march for our lives, the women's March, especially in the age of Trump.

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We've seen Soros get sort of thrown under the bus as like, this is all just because

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of his Jew money, more or less.

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If you cut through the subtext, that's what's being said.

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All right.

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When white young men, uh, protest in a violent manner, you could even say, uh, cause physical

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harm to anybody who disagrees with them.

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They're doing it for free.

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But whenever say millions of women get together to, uh, call for an end to, uh, what has been

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2 million years of sexual abuse in some form or another.

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Right.

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Well, clearly they were paid by Soros.

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Right.

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That makes perfect sense.

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70 something year old Hungarian dude gave him money.

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And then they're like, well, now we're mad.

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Yeah.

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Well, of course.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, I wanted to, I started to realize that like, we're going through 2009.

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Uh, and there is, you know, our two of the biggest reasons to do it are to find out when

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Alex started talking about George Soros and then secondarily, what was the deal with the

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tea party?

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Right.

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And so far, we've gone through almost a two and a half months of 2009 at the beginning,

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uh, starting in January and we've seen, he has not, uh, registered at all that the tea

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party is happening.

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That's right.

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I completely forgot that that was what that was.

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It's easy to forget.

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We've been doing it for two and a half months and I forgot entirely what the whole point

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of the investigation was.

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That's because we keep finding these weird things that happen.

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The avian flu narrative, the, uh, crazy people like Rebecca Carly that show up that we get

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to learn about.

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Yeah.

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So we have had a lot of like things that have sidetracked us in 2009, but the focus has

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generally been to try and learn more about those two things because I think they're essential,

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uh, important things to nail down in terms of figuring out who is really influential

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to Alex.

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Where are the threads that you can pull that actually lead you to unraveling the sweater

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as opposed to it just being like, wow, here's a string.

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Right.

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So we've gotten nowhere with either of those, quite frankly.

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We've heard Alex bring up George Soros in 2009, but only because of one clip that he's

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heard and he doesn't seem to know who he is really at all or care at all.

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Absolutely.

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So I'm, I want to know, I really do want to know these things.

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I'm not saying we're leaving 2009, but because these stories are popping up in the, in the

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mainstream consciousness a lot more and people are talking about it, I feel a greater pressure

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to learn a little bit more and I decided, well, skip to the end.

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I don't know what the end is.

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That's the problem.

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I don't know what the end is.

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Well, did you throw a dart at a board?

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Yeah.

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So I decided with that's what he did to find enemies.

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Sure.

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That would be one strategy.

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I could randomly just say like, all right, here's a fucking date.

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Let's see what's going on then.

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And the odds are that I would find something, but who knows if it would be useful for our

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information.

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So I started to think, and I realized the most disgraceful thing that's ever been done

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publicly in media about George Soros is on November 9th and 10th, Rudy Giuliani masturbated

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into his face.

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That was, that would be the most disgraceful thing.

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That would be very disgraceful.

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That would be disgraceful.

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That is not what happened.

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Oh, okay.

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On November 9th and 10th of 2010, Glenn Beck aired a two night expose of George Soros,

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the puppet master.

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Now this was not the first time that George Soros had come up as some sort of a boogeyman,

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but it was one of the most overt and one of the most deeply antisemitic.

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He was pulling on all sorts of tropes from history in a way that a lot of people haven't

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necessarily done.

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When we heard Alex talking about that clip in 2009, he's not talking about anything about

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Soros except for he said he was going to crash oil when that's not what the clip said at

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all.

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He's not using any of his like, his globalist blood drinking, poisoning the well, protocols

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of the elders of Zion inspired nonsense.

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He's not even hitting the hard J, you know what I mean?

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He's not even hitting the Jew like that.

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He's not down that road at all.

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I believe a couple of years prior, Bill O'Reilly had gone on his show and said some bad things

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about Soros.

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Sure, fine.

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But in terms of scale, that two night event that Glenn Beck did was the most flagrant,

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the most outrageous thing that has ever been done.

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And the mentality that it embodies is exactly where Alex Jones is today.

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Great.

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In terms of George Soros being the puppet master, he's the one who's pulling all the

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strings, he's paying the protesters, he's satanic, he's behind Hillary, he's behind

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Obama, all of that stuff, the spiritual core of what Glenn Beck was talking about on that

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two night event is where Alex Jones ends up.

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So I thought it would be interesting to listen to Alex Jones' show on those next days, so

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the 10th and the 11th of November 2010, and see what happens.

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See what he's talking about.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I was worried we were going to listen to that Glenn Beck show.

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No, we will hear a little clip of it, but not too much.

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So on the 10th of November 2010, Alex Jones doesn't talk about it at all.

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He talks about TSA being demon evil people and how they're taking pictures of your dick

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at airport scanners.

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I'm fine with that.

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Yeah, I'm fine with that.

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I mean, I'm fine with him talking about that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I guess I'm also fine with them taking pictures of my dick, but...

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It's not my favorite thing for them to do, but yeah, I will say that listening to it

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was a little bit boring because it was someone making an argument I'm into, but poorly.

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So listening to his show on that day, I was like, this sucks.

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Talk about Beck.

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I don't want to waste three hours sitting here on the off chance that two hours into

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this, you're like, you know who sucks?

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Glenn Beck.

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Yeah.

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And unfortunately, he didn't say a word about Glenn Beck.

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So I wasted three hours listening to that show.

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So I assume he had just flown and like two days beforehand and he was like, they're TSA.

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They looked me in the eye and they said, we know what you're doing.

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And then yada, yada, yada.

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Or maybe there was an article on Drudge or something like that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Or maybe somebody took a picture of his dick recently.

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Could be.

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Whatever the case is, he is nowhere to be found talking about Glenn Beck on the 10th.

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But on the 11th, he does get into it.

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Here we go.

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Now, that makes some sense because maybe Alex was giving him the benefit of the doubt and

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like, you have a two night series.

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I'm not going to comment until the end.

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Sure.

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I highly doubt that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I think it just came to his attention on the 11th.

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So now just for a little bit of context, here is a clip of Alex Jones from September 13th,

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2018, talking about his relationship with George Soros.

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You let one of these third world countries collapse into you, you go bankrupt.

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Oh, I forgot.

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What's George Soros want?

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Before he spent tens of billions of dollars buying up the media in the US and buying PR

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for himself.

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When I was a young man, when I was a kid and when I was in high school, my mom always had

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PBS on cooking dinner.

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Whenever I came home at football or whatever, she was always there at five, six o'clock

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for like an hour and a half cooking a huge, you know, six dish meal.

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Gourmet food.

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So I showed up for dinner a lot of times.

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Bring my girlfriend over.

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And it was always on PBS and ABC and everywhere that George Soros is a criminal.

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He overthrows countries.

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All he wants to do is collapse things.

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And he's an insider trader.

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Not anymore.

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He's the sweet little Nazi collaborator.

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He almost kisses little wart covered booty.

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So Alex is implying in that clip that he's known since childhood when his mom would make

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gourmet dinners.

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Why does his mom even have to make gourmet dinners?

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Irrelevant.

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She just made dinner.

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Irrelevant.

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You know, your mom doesn't also have to be legendary at something.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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She has to be a great cook or else she is not worthy of being his woman, as we learned

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on the last episode.

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Why do you got to do that?

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Because he's a, I don't know, it's somehow still chauvinistic.

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Yeah, I know.

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His mom makes gourmet dinners.

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But only coming from him.

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In another context, it might seem better.

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Anyway, that's far from the point.

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The point is that he's expressing this idea that he's known about Soros as a country

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collapser extraordinaire.

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Since, I mean, what would that be?

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He was born in 1974.

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So that would be 1988.

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He's known about Soros.

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Yeah, he's bringing girlfriends home.

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Being a country collapser since 1988.

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So what does that make?

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We're in 2018.

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That's actually on his business cards.

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We're in 2018 now.

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This is 30 years he's been aware of George Soros as a horrible, currency-destroying,

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country-collapsing son of a gun.

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Also on his business card.

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That's on the back.

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It's a long job title.

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Yeah.

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So here we jump in to the November 11th, 2010 episode.

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And thankfully, pretty early in the episode, Alex starts talking about Glenn Beck.

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Because if he didn't, I was going to throw something across the room.

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What's the other huge news today?

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Glenn Beck has had his hype machine going for the last month saying that he would reveal

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today, and now he has, that the head of the New World Order, the puppet master, the king

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of it all, and I said two weeks ago it'd be George Soros on air.

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Not just because I could guess that, but because we have sources inside Fox.

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You notice Media Matters has a report out today saying Jones correctly predicted a month

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beforehand that Lou Dobbs would be moving to Fox Business.

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That's because I have multiple sources at the highest levels inside Fox.

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He's got moles.

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So Alex predicted ahead of time that Glenn Beck would say that George Soros is the puppet

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master and the king of it all.

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Yeah, but that's because he has sources inside Fox, not inside the New World Order.

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Isn't he supposed to have sources at the top levels of the New World Order who are in contact

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with George Soros, who are giving him all of this information?

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Not just business execs at Fox who know that Lou Dobbs is going to Fox Business.

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You would think that you'd get that information from a page or something like that.

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You could get it from an intern, maybe a high-level intern, but yeah, so it does seem to undercut

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his predictive abilities if he's saying, I knew that he was going to say it was Soros.

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I have moles all over the place.

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So I don't know, do you think that he's talking about Soros like he talks about him now here

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in 2010?

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No, I think the way that he just put it is once you lead off with he's got his hype machine

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going, that kind of suggests that he's going to say Glenn Beck is over-exaggerating the

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extent to which Soros runs the things.

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Interesting.

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You should think that's the way this is going to go.

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We're not going to find out for now because Alex has to talk about how obsessed with Alex

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Jones, Glenn Beckett.

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Of course.

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I have been told directly that Glenn Beck has five people full-time watching this show

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and taking what we cover and then repackaging and it's kind of a neocon thing.

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But look, Glenn Beck was going to be the main focus of my new Tea Party film.

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Now he's not, because he's come so far.

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I don't trust him.

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I particularly don't like having all my material taken and then twisted all the key information

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and research we do, but more and more he's doing more good than harm and he's going to

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be attacked for it and I've said that and Glenn Beck has done something now that he

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moved, you know, two years ago I liked him 20%, a month ago I was up to liking him about

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60%, now I like him about 80%.

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I mean, Glenn Beck is, as I said months ago, if he continues on his progression, within

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a year or less, he'll be as hardcore as Alex Jones.

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He's done something absolutely incredible.

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I haven't talked about Glenn Beck in a month or so.

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We're going to talk about him coming up.

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This is big.

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This is big.

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Stay with us.

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So what do you think?

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I mean, for the guy who's supposed to be obsessed with you, you're the one talking about him

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a lot and he's not talking about you.

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No, no, that's true.

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Yeah, that kind of undercuts that whole obsession kind of angle right there.

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I mean, just because I talk about him every day doesn't mean I'm obsessed or anything.

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It's actually him who's obsessed with me.

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That's why I have to talk about him because he's always fucking watching me.

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There's a little bit of that feel to that.

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Yeah.

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But he's done something that's got him 80%.

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Alex is 80% on his side.

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What does that mean?

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Well, he did this fucking flagrantly anti-Semitic two-night event about Dolph Zoroz.

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Yeah, but I like him 80%?

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Do you mean I agree with him 80% of the time?

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I'm 80% warm on him.

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What does that mean?

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It's like, you know, interactive level.

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Doesn't mean anything.

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How would I talk to you differently if I liked you 80%?

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Doesn't mean anything.

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As opposed to 60%?

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It's nonsense talk that is meant to be nonsense talk.

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Doesn't mean shit.

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All right.

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But it does seem...

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Well, I like that 80%.

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It does seem to lead you to assume, oh, wait, maybe, I mean, we're jumping in here after,

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you know, we don't know what happened the last year before this.

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Maybe Alex is already on board with Zoroz being the puppet master.

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Could be.

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Could be.

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He predicted it ahead of time because he knows, like, if Beck did any research, this is what

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he would find.

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Right.

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It turns out that what he liked about what Glenn Beck did is something entirely different.

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Here is what he has to say about the idea of Zoroz being the puppet master.

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I will reveal the real puppet masters in two hours and 15 minutes.

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Okay?

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So...

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But I'm not obsessed with him!

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As I predicted two weeks ago, it's George Soros.

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Give me a break.

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Okay, give me a break.

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Give me a break.

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Break me up a piece of that George Soros bar.

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So he's gonna go with George Soros is not the dark Sauron of the left.

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Give me a break.

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Give me a break!

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I have known since 1988 that George Soros was the biggest demon.

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Well, he's a country collapsing, courtesy destroying, son of a gun, as it says on his

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card.

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If you're gonna say it, then give me a break.

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You don't know what you're fucking talking about.

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Well, I mean, again, you have to recognize that that clip where Alex is pretending that

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he's known since childhood is from 2018.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So he's giving himself a little bit of a mythological backstory to this.

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Whereas we see here, very clearly, Alex Jones is not on a George Soros tip here in 2010.

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Yeah.

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Is there any...

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Did anybody ever, like, pick George Soros from the beginning?

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Was there, like, a reason?

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Or is it just, like, somebody found out that a Jew was a billionaire?

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So they were like, well, we gotta stop this.

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I think, generally speaking, as is the case with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion itself,

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there is probably a Russian influence that leads people down the specific anti-Semitic

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paths that they go down.

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Right.

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We know that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion were a czarist Russian police plot,

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basically, to demonize the Jewish population that caught on like wildfire.

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Not hard to demonize the Jews, turns out.

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And in this case, it seems very clear that the one person in the entire world who would

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have a vested interest in demonizing George Soros is Vladimir Putin, in as much as George

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Soros and the Open Society's foundation have been instrumental in trying to bring democracy

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to a lot of the parts of the former Soviet Union.

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Right.

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He's tried to help democratize and liberate a number of places, not by overthrowing governments,

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but by providing support to democratic organizations.

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Yeah.

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Whether it's through financial support or logistical support, giving them printers to

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print off material to give to people.

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Right.

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That is one of his big things.

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So it does make sense.

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Like a vampire would do.

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Well, it's impossible necessarily for us to prove without knowing much more behind the

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scenes stuff we can't pretend we know.

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That he is or is not a vampire?

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No, that is a very reasonable, I think, conclusion to make.

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Yeah.

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You know, suspect number one in demonizing Soros is Putin.

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Right.

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No, absolutely.

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So it's clear that here in 2010, Alex is not on the Soros tip at all.

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He is very much on another tip.

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And he's promised at this point that at the end of the show, he will tell us who the true

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puppet master is.

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Yes.

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He teases that throughout the entire episode, because, of course, he wants people to stick

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around and listen to his dumb commercials.

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But we still don't know at this point.

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OK, if you don't agree with his, you know, assertion that Soros is the puppet master,

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what is it that you did like about that clip or about, you know, Glenn Beck's work?

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And we find out in this clip.

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Glenn Beck has come out and talked about government sponsored terrorism.

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Terrorism and how they're going to blame it on him and me and others.

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You folks, this is big.

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Prison Planet headline.

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Get it to all the neocons.

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You know, they get mad if you talk about government sponsored terror.

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Glenn Beck, government preparing to stage terror.

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This is big.

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Here's the clip.

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Why does the left need this violence?

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Well, listen to a clip from a Democratic pollster.

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Mark Penn happened just the other day, and yet no one pays attention to it.

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How can the left win the country?

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Watch.

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Cabinets don't don't really sell things.

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President himself has to reconnect with the people.

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Remember, President Clinton reconnected through Oklahoma, right?

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And the president, because the bombing is removed.

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And it wasn't until that speech that he clicked with the American public.

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Obama needs a similar a similar kind of work for Obama needs a similar kind of event.

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All right. Oklahoma City, if only Barack Obama can have the opportunity to speak to America

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after another Oklahoma City type event, then he'll politically be in good shape.

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All right there.

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I get what you're doing.

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Yeah, I got it.

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Now, according to Drummond Pike, the founder of Tides, who Drummond, I hope you watch this

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week because, oh, it's all coming undone this week.

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I will be the guy who causes the next Oklahoma City.

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This is in a letter, an appeal to advertisers of Fox.

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Dear Fox advertisers, read this part of it.

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No one left right center wants to see another Oklahoma City.

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The next assassin may succeed.

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If so, there will be blood on many hands.

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They are setting up another Oklahoma City.

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They are claiming that one is coming and they've already marked the one who caused it.

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But don't you miss Wednesday show?

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All right. Oh my God.

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And he goes on.

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So there it is.

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Glenn Beck.

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They are planning an Oklahoma City.

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Hey, it isn't George Soros, buddy pal.

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Buddy pal.

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Buddy pal?

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Right.

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So it's not George Soros is doing it.

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But here in that you responded exactly where you should have in exactly the right way.

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What we have is two fundamental, intentional misunderstandings that Glenn Beck is perpetuating.

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The first is in that clip, which is from Hardball with Chris Matthews.

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This guy, Mark Penn, is making the argument that the speech that Bill Clinton made after

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Oklahoma City is what brought people back to him as opposed to the event itself.

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He was saying that Obama needed a speech like that.

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If you want to make that argument, that's what he's saying, right?

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He needs a moment of connection,

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not necessarily that there needs to be a terrorist attack and we're going to fucking do it right.

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The second one is Glenn Beck saying that when they do make this happen,

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they're going they're already preemptively blaming me for this.

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Buddy, buddy pal, you are a part of the system that is causing people to be radicalized in

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such a way that leads them to militias that have the propensity to pull these sorts of stunts.

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So this person saying the next time something happens, people, a lot of people have blood

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on their hands is not some sort of preemptive blaming for a false flag attack.

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It's warning people the logical consequences of their rhetoric.

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Historically speaking, demagogues who inflame white nationalists who are obsessed with guns

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and have the capability to bomb shit,

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they're usually the ones pushing people towards the capability of bombing shit.

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And especially when they're they're sort of modus operandi is also to

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inflame feelings of deprivation or victimhood

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that are lying right behind people's perceptions of equality and plurality.

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Which is a good game because here's the it's very profitable.

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Look at these. Exactly.

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I am making the conditions right for people to cause terror attacks.

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And because I am doing that, people are going to correctly say that I am doing that.

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And by them doing that, I can say they're planning those attacks

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in order to blame me because I am guilty of it.

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But even by being guilty, in fact, by being guilty of it, I can claim that I am not guilty of it.

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It's insane and it works perfectly.

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No, it works really well.

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It works really well.

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It works so well to like it almost it cannot be

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coincidental like it has to be an intentional strategy.

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Oh, yeah, absolutely.

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I just can't wrap my head around the idea that they would just

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stumble ass backwards into something so ironclad.

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Yeah, no, it's airtight.

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To excuse their behavior in such a way.

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It's amazing.

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It really it really is spectacular.

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And I tip my hat to it in a very loathing way.

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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But yeah, so those are the two.

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It's an ouroboros of stupid.

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Right. And propaganda.

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These are the two like really essential misunderstandings in the same way that

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Alex is transversing the like with the Mayak report, transversing the association

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of the logic of a lot of people who are in militias like Ron Paul.

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Right.

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Poor Ron Paul.

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He's reporting it as a lot like if you like Ron Paul,

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then they're saying you're in a demonic terrorist militia.

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Yeah.

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The same sort of misunderstanding is being done here willingly with this hardball clip

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where the guy is saying that Bill Clinton brought people back on his side with that

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great speech that he gave, whereas Glenn Beck is arguing, oh, they're saying that

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we need a terrorist attack to bring people back together.

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Right.

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So that's not great.

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But Alex needs whatever he can get.

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And so he's like, all right, Glenn Beck saying that the government's going to fucking do

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terrorist attacks, which is the misrepresentation Glenn Beck is making.

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Exactly.

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So now I think if I had to guess, I would say that Alex has seen the tremendous success

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that Glenn Beck has been having since 2009 because of the like Freedom Works money that's

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flowing into him, because of the 912 movement, because of the Tea Party.

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And I think that Alex is probably like, all right, there's a way that I can have an olive

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branch with Glenn Beck.

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I can say that he's been a piece of shit this whole time, but he's right about the government

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trying to do another Oklahoma City.

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Let's see if I can get some of that money.

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Yeah, I think that's kind of what's going on.

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That sounds right.

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That's some of the sense that I'm getting released the vibe.

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It sounds right.

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Yeah.

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So, you know, I want to play this next clip just so we can be clear that we aren't being

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unfair when we say that Alex is not interested in really talking about Soros.

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I can find no fault with what he's doing, other than the fact of saying that the Tides

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Foundation and George Soros are the king puppet masters and that they are getting ready to

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stage a new Oklahoma City.

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Man, he is bold.

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All right, fair enough.

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He's bold.

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Yeah, he's like a hot cup of coffee with way too much milk in it, that white silky piece

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of shit.

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Alex can find no fault with Glenn Beck's behavior here in November of 2010.

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None.

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With the exception of him saying that fucking Soros is in charge of stuff.

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He should have just said all the Jews.

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Come on, man.

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You missed a real opportunity to make sure that everybody hates all of them, not just

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one.

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Sure.

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Lame.

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So with the Glenn Beck clip that Alex played is of this interview on Hardball with Chris

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Matthews, where he's interviewing Mark Penn.

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And Alex had previously posted this.

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So he's, in this next clip, going to make the argument that Glenn Beck stole his clip.

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Right.

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But he's not mad about it.

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And I'm not saying that sarcastically.

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He's not he's not really mad about that, but he wants credit that he fucking we posted

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that.

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Yeah, no, of course.

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Of course.

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And then he's going to mischaracterize things a little bit with who Mark Penn is.

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So this is very, very exciting.

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You notice he played the very video clip that we played last week and then again on Monday

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of Clintonite says Obama needs Oklahoma City bombing to reconnect with the American people.

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Democratic operative Mark Penn said that on national television, Beck played the exact

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same YouTube clip we played.

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So he calls him a Clintonite.

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And that's kind of a problem.

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Why would that be a problem?

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Well, you see, do you mean somebody who just references a moment from Clinton's campaign

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and is also a Democrat does not necessarily mean they are a Clintonite?

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Well, see, this clip is from November 2010, right?

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Yeah.

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Mark Penn was the chief strategist for Hillary Clinton's 2008 run.

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Right.

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Where she lost in the primaries to Barack Obama.

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Some some some guy out of nowhere.

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Now, she he was her chief strategist for a bit.

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But then I'm reading from Source Watch here, quote, On April 4th, 2008, The Wall Street

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Journal reported that Penn had, quote, met with Colombia's ambassador to the United States

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on Monday to discuss a bilateral free trade agreement, a pact the presidential candidate

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in this case, Hillary Clinton opposes.

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So it turns out that this company that he worked for, Burson Marsteller, this this group,

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this sort of what would you call it?

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Lobbying group think tank lobbying group lobbying group.

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Burstin Marsteller, they had been contracted in 2007 to lobby for Colombia on behalf of

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that bilateral trade deal.

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Gotcha.

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U.S. Department of Justice filings disclosed that in March 2007, B.M. Burstin Marsteller

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signed a three hundred thousand dollar one year contract with the Colombian embassy.

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In March 2007, the managing director of Burson Marsteller's Washington regional office and

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chairman of its issues and advocacy practice, Robert Tappan, signed an agreement with the

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government of Colombia.

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So what was going on is this Mark Penn was meeting with Colombians at the embassy, a

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Colombian ambassador under the auspices of his job with Burson Marsteller in order to

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work on trying to smooth the path to this bilateral trade deal that Clinton was opposed

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to, who he was the chief strategist for at the time.

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Right.

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Shouldn't all of that be super legal in some way?

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I'm not sure if it's illegal, but it is very inappropriate.

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Yeah, that's that's bad.

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I think it should be illegal.

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But the issue is that this came to light on April 4th, 2008, when The Wall Street Journal

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reported on it and he got fucking sacked because, of course, he did.

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Right.

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And so he gets kicked out as her chief strategist and quote, in a statement, Penn later apologized,

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quote, The meeting was an error in judgment and that will not be repeated.

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I am sorry for it.

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The senator's well-known opposition to the trade deal is clear and was not discussed,

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which is probably a lie.

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Absolutely.

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Penn may have thought this statement would mollify the Clinton campaign, but ultimately

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it did not.

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Also, quote, Colombia took offense at Penn's statement that it was, quote, an error in

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judgment to meet with the Colombian ambassador in Washington, D.C., quote, The Colombian

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government considers this a lack of respect to Colombians and finds this response unacceptable.

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Agreed.

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Yeah.

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I'm a big fan of everybody's point except for Penn's right now.

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Yeah.

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He also would later say in an interview with The Guardian that with the benefit of hindsight,

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he would have done things differently.

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Good.

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Good.

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Good.

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Good.

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But now he's on TV.

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Yeah.

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Because he was still he was still like a fairly credible pollster and like poll analysis guy.

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Even after that, the Clinton campaign still did like use some of his polling data, stuff

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like that.

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But he was a high level strategist.

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Yeah.

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And he got booted for all this shit.

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He's not a Clintonite anymore.

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That was a very big fall from grace.

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Yeah.

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So in addition to that, trying to paint him as some sort of a liberal or anything like

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that is kind of disingenuous because he has links to, let's say, big tobacco, anti-union

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causes.

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Yeah.

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He has a...

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I'm going to go with Kraven is probably a better way to describe him.

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He has a deep history of working against and lobbying against what are, you know, traditionally

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liberal causes.

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So I don't I don't feel like, you know, he's just in as much as he's on hardball with Chris

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Matthews.

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Yeah.

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He is a talking head who's talking shit.

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That's what he's doing.

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Yeah.

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And he's expressing an opinion that isn't that we need a terrorist attack to get Obama

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up in the polls.

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No.

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Saying you need that kind of a speech because that speech that Bill Clinton gave in 95 after

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Oklahoma City.

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Tremendously moving.

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No, it is looked on as one of the great speeches, especially of our lifetimes and a galvanizing

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moment that brought people together.

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So I don't know.

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All this is to say that Mark Penn isn't who Alex is pretending that he is.

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He's not a Clintonite.

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So you can't even get your Clinton potshots here.

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You can't say that he was an Obama strategist because he was on the team that was against

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Obama in the primaries.

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Right.

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All that shit.

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So anyway, this is all to say that there's very little for me to look into in this episode.

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So I had to look into Mark Penn a little.

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This this is all to say that Mark Penn went from being the chief strategist of Clinton's

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campaign associated with a lobbying firm in D.C. and in the good graces of the Colombian

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government to being just a guy.

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Just so it's going.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He's just a guy.

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So in this next clip, Alex talks more about Soros's position with the globalists.

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I want to play this little five minute video.

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But later, when Max Keiser is on, I'm getting into the economy.

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I'm getting in to who the real puppet masters are.

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Since Beck didn't tell you.

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He told you it was Soros.

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That's a guy way down the totem pole on the left wing of this buzzard.

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This this this carrion crow.

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So it's way down the totem pole, way down the totem pole on the left side of the carrion

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crow.

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That was what the PBS documentaries were about, though, when he was growing up, whenever

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his mom was making those gourmet meals.

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Sure.

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And he would bring his girlfriend over.

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They've got PBS on there.

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And the PBS guys are just going like, again, tonight, our next report is that Soros is

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not that big a deal.

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Job story.

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Soros inconsequential in the big, big scheme of things.

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They ran they ran a 10 part series on how he wasn't that big a deal.

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Now, I want to preemptively make an argument here that Alex would probably try to make

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a rebuttal to an argument Alex to try and make.

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Yeah.

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He would say that in 2010, Soros wasn't right back, no, but the ascendancy, he rose through

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the ranks later.

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And the argument that I would make to that is if you study things the way that you pretend

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that you do and you have all this inside information, then you would know in 2010 that George Soros

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was earmarked to be the next puppet master, because this operation does not operate without

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a clear chain of command.

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There's not a clear continuity of government.

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If you allow that term to be used, I always assumed that the globalists were an oligarchy.

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What do you see when you see the leadership of the globalists here?

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I don't think they exist, but if they did exist, all I have to go on is Alex's version

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of it.

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Okay.

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And it's not the like Louis Beam leaderless resistance kind of model.

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No, no, no.

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It is absolutely hierarchical to the nth degree.

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There is someone at the top who Alex is going to reveal at the end of this episode.

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You think there's a military structure, like there's a guy at the top, he's got a few lieutenants

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underneath him.

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Those guys all have aid to calm underneath them, and so on and so forth.

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That's how Alex uses it.

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And then there are battalions.

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Right.

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To a certain extent, there's circles within circles and there's like inner and outer circles

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and stuff like that.

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But the buck stops at, well, it will stop at Soros, but right now it stops at...

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We'll find out at the end of this episode.

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Who knows?

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We'll find out at the end of this episode.

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Could be anybody.

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Could be anybody.

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Could be anybody.

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So there is that, and I must stress that there is literally no way Alex can make the arguments

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that he makes about himself and about the world that don't include that if Soros is

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puppet master a few years later, he would have been earmarked.

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He would have been tapped to be the next.

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It's not like whenever the Dalai Lama dies, they got to go find him.

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It's not like that with the globalist leadership structure.

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It's not like, oh no, he's dead.

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Let's go find the next one.

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They know.

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Isn't there another guy that reincarnates though that finds the Dalai Lama?

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Yeah.

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There's the guy who reincarnates into the Dalai Lama and then there's also the guy who

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reincarnates into the guy who goes and finds the Dalai Lama.

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Which is probably a better position to be in.

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Yeah.

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Oh.

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Less stakes.

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You don't have to be the Dalai Lama.

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No pressure.

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But you get to choose.

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Yeah.

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It's still high status.

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This baby looks cool.

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That's Tim.

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And no way to fact check.

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Nope.

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No way.

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Nope.

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You could just walk down the street and it could be anybody.

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It'd be fine.

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Much like Alex with his secret information.

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Yeah.

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The guy who chooses the Dalai Lama has no accountability.

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How many of those guys, I'm not saying all of them, but how many of those guys either

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knew beforehand or knew afterwards?

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I fucked up.

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I am a fraud.

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Probably not.

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I think they all probably grew into accepting, anyway, look, we're not here to talk about

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a buyer's remorse on the Dalai Lama, which will be my senior thesis when I go back to

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grad school.

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Do they have senior theses?

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Anyway, Alex has been saying that the big good thing that Glenn Beck did is introduce

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the idea to the much larger audience than Alex has.

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That they're going to stage a right wing terror attack.

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And actually, that's a little bit of like a tell on Alex's part, how excited he is that

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Glenn Beck said this on his show.

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Yeah.

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Because Alex also on this show says Glenn Beck has three million viewers.

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And if Alex is excited that Glenn Beck with three million viewers is saying this, he has

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less than three million listeners.

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Oh, you could say that.

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There is that sort of transitive property.

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But who cares?

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Be that as it may.

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Alex also realizes that there is a corollary to this.

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If Glenn Beck is saying that the government is going to do another Oklahoma City, he can't

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make fun of other things I say.

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Because now how is Glenn going to make fun of people that talk about 9-11 being an inside

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job?

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How are you going to do that, Glenn?

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I know it's a religion to hate Muslims and whoa, whoa.

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In 2010, Alex Jones is critical of Glenn Beck because he has a religion of hating Muslims.

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It's almost like everything he was mad at Glenn Beck about in 2010 is exactly who he

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became.

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Yep.

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He has a religion of hating Muslims.

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He believes that George Soros is the puppet master.

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And that is because Glenn Beck is obsessed with him, Dan.

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No.

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It's Glenn Beck's obsession.

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Sure Alex talks about him all the time.

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Sure Alex wants to be him with his listenership.

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Sure Alex is gradually turning into him in order to court those listeners.

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But that's because Glenn Beck is obsessed with him.

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I don't think it's courting listeners.

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Well, not anymore.

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I think, quite frankly, it's...

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Money.

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Well, money and whoever was influencing Glenn Beck, Alex wants a piece of that.

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Some of that influence.

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Or those people have already decided to hedge their bets with both of them.

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And Alex is like, maybe at this point doesn't realize that these are two hands of the same

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body.

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Him and Glenn Beck are both being used in order to radicalize the right wing in America.

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So it's possible, but I think it's incredibly likely that the reason that Glenn Beck goes

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this path and then veers off and is like, last year was on Samantha Bee apologizing

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for shit.

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Eh, fuck off.

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Crying all over TV is because that gravy train ended for him.

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Whoever was trying to get him to do, or whoever was influencing to do whatever he was doing

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decided he is no longer effective in what we need him to do.

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Interestingly, Alex Jones becomes him suspiciously, almost as if he is the new Glenn Beck.

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But a more extreme Glenn Beck and someone who has more pretend credibility.

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I don't know, though.

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Dark horse candidate.

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Dark horse candidate for leader of the globalists, as it stands right now in this episode.

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Oh, I would love for you to make some bets.

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Mark Penn.

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Mark Penn?

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Mark Penn.

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Wait, what about Michael Penn?

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See, you bring him back.

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Michael Penn can't do it.

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Can't do it.

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No?

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No.

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No, no, no.

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No.

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What about Michael Bolton?

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No.

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No, I would actually like you to give some legitimate guesses.

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I will say that you'll never be able to guess who he says is at the top.

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Of course not.

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But I think you could guess some of the people he thinks is around the top.

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They're obvious, quite frankly.

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Yeah.

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Rahm.

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What about Rahm?

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No.

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Because he already had the Rahm sat down on the table and farted in Obama's face or whatever

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his narrative is.

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Rahm doesn't come up once.

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Not once.

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Okay.

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Neither does Obama.

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I'll give you that.

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Okay.

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Well, that's what I was going with.

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It can't be Obama.

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That's too simple.

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Nobody would ever buy that it was Obama.

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Obama has to be a puppet for the puppet master narrative to make sense.

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Plus, that's one of the central conceits of the Obama deception, where the big argument

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is that Obama is just a puppet of bigger forces.

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Right, right, right.

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That doesn't serve his interests.

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And it can't still be the Rockefellers and the like, because that's boring and not sexy.

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After you start throwing Soros in there, you can't then throw the Rockefellers back in.

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That's no fun.

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You're going backwards.

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You got a yes and this shit.

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But we don't have Soros thrown in now.

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Well, Glenn Beck threw Soros in.

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That is true.

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Yeah.

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They have bad news.

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It's the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers.

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It is not the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers!

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Of course it is.

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That's lame!

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I told you it was obvious.

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That's lame, though!

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It's not a narrative.

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There's not a lot of narrative progression that he's able to do on his own.

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You got to one up.

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You can't one down.

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The reason I'm fine telling you that is because any right-thinking person who's ever listened

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to our show should know that.

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But also, that's not who he says is at the top.

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Wait, it's not who he says is at the top?

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There is someone at the top of the pyramid.

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It is a surprise.

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Okay.

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It's pretty crazy.

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All right.

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So, in this next clip, brings up that Soros, though it would be absurd for him to be the

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puppet master, he is a globalist.

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Now, in a minute or two, and I'll be with us till 40 after the next hour, then I'm going

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to tell you who the real puppet masters are, because Glenn Beck says it's George Soros

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and it's not.

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George Soros is a bad guy and a globalist, but give me a break.

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We're going to tell you who the real puppet masters are.

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Exciting.

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Exciting.

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Is it the puppet master from the 80s movies?

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The puppet master movies?

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The puppet masters.

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It's not.

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No.

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It's not.

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Okay.

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Nor is it that guy who had Madam, the puppet, Madam?

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No, it's not Madam.

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Waylon Flowers.

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It's not Waylon Flowers.

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Is it Taylor Mason?

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It is not.

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It is not whoever used, who was that, Howdy Doody?

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Howdy Doody?

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It's not Howdy Doody.

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Not Howdy Doody.

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It's not Mortimer Snurd.

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None of those famous puppets of old.

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What about the ventriloquist from Goosebumps?

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Nope.

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Nope.

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Certainly not.

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Was there a ventriloquist or was the doll just alive?

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There was a ventriloquist dummy in Goosebumps.

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No.

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There was a ventriloquist dummy.

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There were like 200 of those books.

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You think they didn't get to ventriloquism?

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I think there was at least a series of ventriloquists.

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But I don't remember if there was ever actually a ventriloquist in those or if it was just

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the dummy.

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I think it might have...

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There had to have been a human involved.

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Yeah.

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But he might have been a woeful bystander.

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He might have been an evil...

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To the evil puppet.

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No.

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The puppet was the evil one.

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The puppet was the evil?

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I thought the puppet had the spirit of it.

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You don't fucking write a Goosebumps story that involves a ventriloquism situation without

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the puppet being the evil one.

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Yeah, but there has to be a twist to it.

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That's what all ventriloquism acts are.

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They're just like, the ventriloquist says dirty shit and the guy's the puppet.

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That's the whole gag.

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Of course that's what Goosebumps would be about.

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It's amazing.

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He doesn't even move his voice and he does the voice of something else.

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So crazy.

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It's like he's not saying it.

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So crazy.

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Oh man.

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So Soros is a globalist.

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Yep.

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Sure, fine.

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Yep.

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He is, it would be crazy to call him the puppet master.

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Crazy.

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So in this next clip, Alex is like, hey, you know, Glenn Beck, maybe he's not so bad after

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all.

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He's starting to warm up on the guy.

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Like him 80%.

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And then the show takes a weird turn.

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This is a big change for Glenn.

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He said, anybody that says the government can stage terror attacks is an evil demon.

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And now he's reversing himself because he's being set up for the next terror attack and

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so am I.

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He's saying that patriots, anti-globalists are going to blow up buildings and they're

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getting ready to frame us.

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And that's clear.

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And Beck is playing the exact same video clips we played last week.

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The exact same articles we wrote back in July.

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He is starting to get the fact that he's in danger.

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I think it's more than him just being a corporate shill.

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I think he realizes he's about to be hung out to dry.

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I want to tell you about a few of the great sponsors we've got.

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They've got $10 off their best seller.

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with no springs using high-grade metals and materials.

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That is not a cooking knife, friend.

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That is a stabbing knife.

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Yeah.

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Alex is selling knives.

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Pretty tender.

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Cool.

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Cool, cool, cool.

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I guess I'm...

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I think I'm way happier with people who are super into knives than I am with guns because

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most people who are super into knives are just like those guys who are like creepily

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into knives but non-violent.

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I would remind you that Gavin McInnes was running around New York with a sword over

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the weekend.

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Yeah.

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That's just good, clean fun, Dad.

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Yeah, I do agree with you that like, I mean, I wouldn't date one or like hang out with

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one very much, but the people who are into knives are usually like a simmering kind of

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crazy.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Whereas the gun, real gun enthusiasts seem a little more outward.

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And the people who are super into knives usually have better knife display rooms than the gun

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display guys.

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You know what I mean?

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Like when you go into a knife...

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There's more of an aesthetic appeal to a lot of like craftsmanship that goes into knives

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and swords and stuff, whereas like what are you going to do with a gun?

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It's a gun.

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You're not going to do all that much.

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There's too many moving parts to make it all that aesthetically pleasing unless you already

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like the look of a gun and then you're just...

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Then you're creepy.

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You're in no matter what.

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Yeah.

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Blacksmith making you a knife?

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That's fucking cool whether you're a...

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A bespoke knife?

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Yeah, come on.

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Sure.

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I want a blacksmith to make me something.

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So Alex is very clear about his position and most of the rest of the clips, other than

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his reveal, are going to just be reinforcing that.

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Yes.

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Soros is not the head of the globalists.

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He is down the totem pole.

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He's not important.

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And we'll deal with why he's saying that at the end of this episode because I think there's

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actually...

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We've hit on a couple reasons, but I have an overarching theory about all of this that

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I will tease much like...

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Dick swinging?

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Mm-hmm.

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There's a little bit of that in there, but I don't think that's the primary motivation.

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So here Alex brags more about his moles and then points the finger at exactly what he's

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doing.

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We have moles everywhere.

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We are the true liberty movement.

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I got so many moles, I can't even talk to half of them, 10% of them, but I don't even

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need the moles.

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I can see where people are going to go.

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I can see what's going to happen.

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This is what I do.

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And anybody, if you immerse yourself in real information and what the globalists are up

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to instead of patriot infighting that the globalists try to push us into, because if

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we ever come together and start focusing on the new world order, it's over.

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What you're doing is patriot infighting, quite frankly.

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Yeah.

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What he's saying there is so invalidating.

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I got all these moles, too many moles to talk to, but I don't need moles because I know

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everything and I know what's going to happen.

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If you know what's going to happen, then you should have been like, you know what?

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He's wrong that Soros is the head of things, but he will be right in the future.

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I have to keep stressing that.

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If Alex has real information, then his response shouldn't be, Soros isn't important.

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It should be, he's in line, but he's still waiting for the old guard to disappear.

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Rebuttal to that.

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Let's talk the death of Stalin.

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So the globalist new world order leader, instead of earmarking Soros for the next position,

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he dies before he gets the chance to pick a successor.

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So now all of these guys are like jockeying for position, killing each other left and

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right to see who's going to take over.

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The globalist learned from the lessons of Stalin and now have a rigidly hierarchical

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system.

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I really don't think anybody's learned from the lessons of Stalin.

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I know this because of my secret sources within the globalist C-O-G.

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I apologize.

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No.

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Everyone has learned the lessons of the past and we won't go down those roads again.

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Anyway, in this next clip, Alex Jones prepares to reveal who is at the top of the pyramid

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of the globalist.

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Yes.

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I will reveal who the real puppets are.

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The real puppets?

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Glenn Beck, don't trust him because of things like this.

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Don't trust him.

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Here it is today.

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I like him 80% though.

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George Soros exposed on the progressive puppet master, the progressives.

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I've heard Rick Perry, there was video of him in the San Antonio Express News in quotes

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two days ago going, it's the progressives of the 1920s, a bunch of beatniks, a bunch

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of liberals, a bunch of commies, Bertrand Russell.

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Yeah, we've talked about all them.

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We've talked about Bernard Shaw years ago in my films, but they're just left wing acolytes

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pushing this.

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What about the Trotskyites becoming the neo cons, Glenn?

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Let me tell you who's at the top of the pyramid and I want to do a whole presentation on this.

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I've done it before, but I want to do in the next few weeks, who the true puppet masters

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are and really create a pyramid graphic that shows the different blocks.

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Right there at the end, Alex clearly watched some of Glenn Beck show.

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He's like, that fucking chalkboard is great.

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I really like that.

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It's a really good.

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So he's like, he's like, what about George Bernard Shaw?

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What about these?

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What about the Trotskyites becoming the neo cons?

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I need a chalkboard.

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That's all I hear.

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There's like, there's so many lines I could draw.

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Grains are at the bottom and then Soros is a step above that.

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You can only have four to six servings of him per day.

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But who is at the top of the pyramid, Dan?

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Alex would never say this sort of thing about like, well, progressives are just another

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piece of this.

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Now they're the people he hates the most because they're trying to go into socialism and what

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have you.

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What he should have thought back then if he had any kind of intellectual consistency,

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but he don't.

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So now we get to the reveal.

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Who is at the top of the pyramid?

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The globalists have to control the full field.

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They've got to have fate right wingers and fake left wingers.

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They've got to try to infiltrate the libertarians.

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They've got to try to gauge and control all opposition.

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But at the very top of the pyramid, the private Federal Reserve.

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Okay.

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Oh, it's just the private Federal Reserve.

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Ah, come on.

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What a disappointing, so the head of the Fed is the head of the globalists.

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What a disappointing reveal.

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That was such a bummer.

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Yeah.

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I was waiting to be a guy.

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I was waiting the entire show like, oh man, he's going to name names.

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This is going to get exciting.

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It's gotta be a guy.

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It's the damn Federal Reserve.

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Just just the concept of the Federal Reserve.

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Yep.

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The Federal Reserve is what does everything.

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It you know, it's everybody, all the globalists who Alex is worried about.

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They're really just doing the bidding of the Federal Reserve.

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That's sort of where he's at.

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Well then the head of the Fed, because they're rotating, have to be part, have to be puppets.

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They can't be the puppet masters.

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So at the Fed, it's got to be somebody who is like a staffer, you know, regardless of

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what administration is in office.

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They're always there.

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They're like a vice president.

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They're like a verbal kint.

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Yeah, exactly.

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The usual suspects is in play.

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Yeah.

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It's like someone maybe four steps down the hierarchy of the Federal Reserve is actually

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in charge of exactly something or something weird because you're right.

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That isn't that is an essential piece of this that like if you are the head of the Federal

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Reserve, which is the top of the globalist New World Order pyramid, and your job only

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lasts eight years, you can't be doing that way.

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And then Soros would never get the job.

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Never, never.

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Which I mean, he's not the head of the Fed now.

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So Alex's cosmology is even off.

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The idea that the Federal Reserve is the head is what he's saying in 2010, in 2018, and

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years prior, Soros is the top, who has never been the head of the Fed.

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No.

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But it is suspicious that the Federal Reserve building is a pyramid that is suspicious.

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So here's where George Soros is at.

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George Soros in the pyramid is not even up near the capstone.

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He's a globalist.

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He's an operative.

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But above him is Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, George Shultz, the Bush family,

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the Clintons.

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They are just management team front people, though.

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So OK, George Soros is basically middle management.

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Yeah.

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He is the head of a retail operation.

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He has to do wet work from time to time.

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He is like the manager of the globalist footlocker or whatever.

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You know, he's not he's not important.

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No.

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He's one of these middle management types where there's people above him, even Kissinger's

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above him.

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Yeah.

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He's not even a plainclothes manager at Footlocker yet.

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He still has to wear stripes.

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Yeah.

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He still has to wear it.

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Yep.

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So here is where we get to, you know, who are important.

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But right up here at the top is the Rothschilds, the Rockefeller's, the British royal family.

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And they're all intermarried now.

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That's how the Rothschilds are lords.

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They're all right up here at the top.

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And they will go into other countries and team up with the Lee family that's run China

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for hundreds of years with the with the Mitsubishi's, with the Hondas, with others.

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And so you've got all these elites and the British Empire was the model for control.

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That's who the puppet masters are.

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That's who controls the strings into the nation states and the petty regional elites and all

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these petty regional elites.

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They get invited to CFR meetings, trilateral commission meetings up here and in the next

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to the highest strata.

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They get invited up here to feel like they're all powerful.

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So it is an oligarchy.

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Well, but if you hear well, to a certain extent, it appears to be one.

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But if you hear what he's saying, are you saying at the end that Soros, people like

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him who are on his level are inconsequential, they're hangers on who just get brought around

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so they can feel important hanging out at, let's say, Bohemian Grove with the people

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who really do matter or go to Bilderberg so they can hang around with Prince Barnards

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offspring or whatever?

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Yeah, I wouldn't want to do that, even if I was a rich dude.

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So, you know, Rockefellers, Rothschild, super important.

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And here's a specific Rockefeller.

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There's David Rockefeller.

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He's been called the omni-budsman of the New World Order.

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He's written books admitting he wants world government, the end of U.S. sovereignty, OK?

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That guy is in the upper reaches of the very top of the capstone.

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So David Rockefeller.

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Did he just say omni-budsman?

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I think he said that before.

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I didn't.

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If he did, again, it's just it rolls off my back whenever he says stuff like that.

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Omni-budsman?

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He said omni-budsman before, but I think he said ombudsman.

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Let's try it.

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I'm telling you.

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There's David Rockefeller.

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He's been called the omni-budsman.

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Yeah, he did.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I just didn't catch it because he says it so much.

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I can't believe he's allowed to say that.

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It is weird that it's not like a...

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No one stops him?

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It's weird that it's a consistent misuse.

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You know, it's not just something he mispronounced one day.

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That's wild to me.

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That's crazy.

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Nobody's corrected him?

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No.

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Oh, boy.

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But he does that with toyn-koss, too, when he says coin-toss, he pronounces it toyn-koss

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every time.

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Really?

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Yeah, whenever he's talked about football, he's like, the toyn-koss going on.

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What?

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Does he always say for all intensive purposes instead of for intensive purposes?

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I don't know.

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So the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, they're the ones who are super important.

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The Federal Reserve is at the top, and here is how Alex closes things out on his show,

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disparaging George Soros even more in this next clip.

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So that's the real puppet masters, not George Soros, who in the pyramid is way down here

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at the bottom of the second level strata from the top.

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He's in the servant class.

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I'll come back and cover more of this.

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Glenn Beck, you're welcome to use this, okay?

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I dare you to talk about the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers and the Queen of England.

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I dare you to do it, buddy.

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Okay, there it is.

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Real simple.

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Took about four minutes.

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There's the real pyramid of power.

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There's the real puppet masters.

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Cool.

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It took a lot longer than four minutes, Alex.

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It took you three hours.

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It took, well, that's because of a lot of teasing.

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Yeah.

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It took him probably four minutes real time to draw it and talk about the Trotskyites

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becoming neo-cons and what have you.

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He's got to get a chalkboard.

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Yeah, he should.

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I would like that.

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But yeah, so Soros is in the servant class.

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If I had a few billion dollars, I'd be really bummed if I was still in the servant class.

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Yeah, that's no good.

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Yeah, but you're the servant in the kingdom as opposed to the rich man in the slums.

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Yeah, I'd probably be happier as the rich man in the slums.

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Yeah, probably.

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Yeah, I think that's a way better place to be.

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Yeah, like the guy running the numbers game or something like that.

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Yeah, you still get to party.

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If you're in a secret society, you never get to party like that, and if you do, it turns

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into a whole orgy and shit.

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Sometimes you just want to go to a bar and get drunk.

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You don't want to watch everybody fuck in front of you, you know?

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Yeah.

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And presenting it is very similar to, I don't know if you ever watched John Hodgman on The

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Daily Show when he created his deranged billionaire character.

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Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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His last appearance was when he was going off to rejoin the deranged billionaires on

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Mars and John Stewart's like, if you're going up there, who does the menial tasks?

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You're not going to do that when you're up there.

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When they play a montage of clips of commercial space travel for millionaires implying that

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the millionaires go up and disperse to become their servants, Alex is presenting that same

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sort of idea here as like, Soros is a billionaire, sure, but he's in the servant class of these

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globalists and is like, all right, all right.

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You're right.

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There's always a packing order.

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That would be wildly disappointing and I think very unlikely.

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So now we have to ask ourselves a little bit about the timing of all of this because we're

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in November 2010 and this is really about a week after the midterm elections in 2010.

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Yeah.

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So what happened, if you don't recall, is in 2008 Obama won and there was a lot of seats

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went Democrat.

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Blue wave.

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A bit of a blue wave, one would say.

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What happened in 2010?

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In 2010 in the midterms, because of the rise of the Tea Party and the galvanizing of nativist

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popular false populist mentality and a shit ton of money, largely from the Koch brothers,

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Sheldon Adelson, ton of money, FreedomWorks, Citizens for Prosper, Americans for Prosper.

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I was thinking of Citizens for a Sound Economy, which is what became FreedomWorks and Americans

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for Prosperity because of that influx of money, propagandists like Glenn Beck that they paid

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for and Sean Hannity that created this astroturfed movement that became so heavily covered by

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the media.

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We end up in a situation here where in the Senate, Republicans gained six seats.

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In the House, they gained 63 seats and they gained six governorships.

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The Republicans completely destroyed the game in 2010.

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They took over everything.

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That is why we are where we were, because when they take over everything, they immediately

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set about fucking everything up behind them and trying to close those doors so it can't

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be done to them.

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When we took over everything, we bitched at each other about whether or not we could even

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afford to compromise.

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Well, we have to do this based on a Republican plan.

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That way the Republicans will support it.

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They're interested in bipartisan leadership and that is why we lose.

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Well, the reason that I bring this up though is because the situation that we have is very

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similar to the situation that we see in 2018 in as much as the midterm elections have happened

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and it's very difficult to continue your rhetoric of needing to fight and all that stuff when

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you have just won everything.

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We have the House and the Senate and the governor houses all going deeply Republican in 2010

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and if you're someone who is a partisan hack like Glenn Beck, what you need to do is evolve

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your narrative into something that's much more insidious.

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Your enemy isn't the Democrats because you've already beat them.

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You have all the cards.

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You hold all the power and you cannot be realistically - you can't blame them for things that don't

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work out in government because your team can just do anything and so in order to keep propaganda

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machines going and to keep this working and the profits coming in, you need to create

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a deeper narrative and that deeper narrative that Glenn Beck chose to do is this George

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Soros is the head of the deep underground secretive New World Order stuff that's really

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what the problem is.

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Now to a certain extent, that is ripping off Alex's worldview because the New World Order,

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the idea that behind the scenes there's all these shadowy forces is something that Alex

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has always pushed into the mainstream and what troubles me about this is when we look

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at the parallels to the modern day after the 2016 election, that is where Alex no longer

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had anything to worry about.

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His guy is now in office.

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The Republicans controlled both houses of Congress.

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He's in 2018 or 2016 in the exact same position that Glenn Beck was in 2010.

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He was the propagandist.

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Glenn Beck was the propagandist in 2010 that was leading this tea party's shit.

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He was the most on board with it even though Sean Hannity and Rush were at least mostly

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in favor of it.

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He was the figurehead of it to a great degree.

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Because he was willing to embrace what it was really about which is racism and conspiracy

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theories.

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And he was wholly funded by the people who were pushing it in a way that Sean Hannity

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and Rush Limbaugh were boosted by them.

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But they still have some autonomy.

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They didn't have almost entire ownership.

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So the reason that this is interesting is now Alex Jones in 2016 is in the same position

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as Glenn Beck was in 2010 and what do we see?

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We see a ramping up of the Soros stuff.

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Now he was always there before but now any time anything goes left, any time there's

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a left protest, you see Soros being blamed.

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Much like Glenn Beck jumped the shark in November of 2010 with this Soros puppet master thing,

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Alex is in the middle of a very extended shark jump that he's doing with every single time

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there's something, oh my God, look at these contracts I found on 4chan that prove that

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Soros is funding Antifa.

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All this stuff, it's exactly the same.

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We see a six-year mirror here of Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, and when we look back and see

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what Alex Jones thought of this in 2010, we see him saying, you, sir, are a fool.

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Alex, I would ask you to look in the mirror and see some of yourself in the past calling

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yourself a fool.

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Republicans actually already outlawed mirrors.

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I have an update from our previous episode.

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No Republican is ever allowed to look at themselves in the mirror ever again.

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Again, they slammed the door shut behind them.

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I think that's smart.

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I think it's smart.

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It's brilliant on their part.

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I wish I hadn't given them the idea.

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Yeah, that was bad of you.

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That was bad.

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I don't know how to put a button on this, Jordan.

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I don't know what I think.

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I don't know exactly what conclusions can be drawn from this but it's weird.

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It's very weird.

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I think we can safely draw this conclusion.

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Alex Jones.

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Something is going on and these people are fucking dark, man.

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Something is rotten in Denmark.

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Something is rotten.

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As that expression goes.

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I don't think that's how the expression goes.

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Nah.

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Don't worry about it.

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Something's wrong in Denmark?

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It's a quote, actually.

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Yeah.

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It's not an expression.

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It's become an expression.

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I mean, yeah.

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What's the quote?

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Something's rotten in Denmark.

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Jerk.

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Check out what's going down in Denmark.

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It ain't no good.

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I set out initially looking back at these episodes because I had a working theory.

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It was that Alex Jones is a deeply petty man.

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So if you go back to the point where Glenn Beck does his presentation on Soros, if he

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was already talking about Soros, that would trigger him to the point of screaming the

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entire show about how Glenn Beck is ripping me off.

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This is my shit all along.

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Oh, of course.

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Of course.

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So I knew that if he was talking about him, we'd have that response and if he wasn't talking

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about him, his pettiness would still be there and he would need to be like, I know more

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than you.

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Of course.

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So the conclusion that we come to is the latter is what happened.

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He doesn't think that Soros is a big bad guy and that means that our investigation in 2009,

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we still need to find out the tea party stuff.

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But, that Soros question would not be answered until, I mean, at least at this point, which

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is a year and a half off from where we are.

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We can't pull that one out.

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So that question is here, I don't know what we're going to do with that.

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You fucking saved us a lot of time skipping to the end of the Soros investigation.

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But it's not the end.

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It's not the end.

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You still don't have a conclusion.

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No.

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Well, I mean, the conclusion is...

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It's not in 2009.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, so I don't know, I'm flummoxed.

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I don't know how to end this without just saying like...

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Do you want to hear my theory?

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Yeah.

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Do you want to hear my, here's my prescription.

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Here's how we do this.

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All right.

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We've been trying protesting and shit like that, right?

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That hasn't been doing great.

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What if we try their own tactics against them?

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I don't like where you're going with it.

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So, here's what we do.

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I really don't like where you're doing this.

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Here's what we do.

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I go on TV and I say, you're right.

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We have been paid by George Soros to protest.

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But the only reason we've been paid by George Soros is because we are not being paid enough

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by all of these bosses, where at the same time, those bosses are paying our senators.

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They're lobbying our senators.

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Who's really getting paid more money?

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Is it the protesters or is it the senators?

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And the senators are the ones who are directing Trump's agenda.

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They're the ones who are secretly controlling Trump.

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So you have to say that the Koch brothers are secretly controlling Trump and you can't

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trust them, Trump.

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We actually, all of the paid protesters actually love Trump, but he doesn't know it because

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he's being convinced that we're against him.

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So if we can convince him that what's really going on is that the Koch brothers are laughing

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at him, they're making fun of him, just like when he was a millionaire in New York City

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and all of the big people were just laughing at him.

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They were like, oh, he's a McDonald's billionaire.

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He's nothing.

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He's still doing that to Trump.

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And that's why Trump needs to listen to us.

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So then they're going to be like, oh, well, Jordan already gave away his plan before we

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even did it.

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Then I can just say you can doctor that audio.

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That's bullshit.

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You made all that shit out of it.

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You can't trust it.

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Trump can only trust us.

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We're the only ones he can trust because we admitted it.

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We admitted that we got paid by these Republican senators.

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They won't admit that they're wholly owned by Koch brothers.

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And then you say, oh, well, can he you can trust his kids.

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You can't trust Ivanka.

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You can't trust those kids.

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They're mad.

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They're mad because they want your money.

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You can't trust those people trying to poison you with a slow acting narcotic in your exactly.

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We all know this to be true.

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Alex Jones told me exactly.

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So that's how we do it.

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We weaponize their own lives against them.

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That's just confusing enough to work.

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I think it might actually work for real.

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Have we tried cheating?

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We got to try cheating.

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Let's see.

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Why not?

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They're doing it.

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Yeah, but that doesn't make it.

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OK.

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But what if we do it better?

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I still think that like cheating, even if you believe that the end result is good, it's

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still like you sort of sully the turf that you're playing on, you know, and you take

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away people's right to free will to a certain extent when you try and trick them into something

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healthy.

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I'm not trying to trick anybody but Trump.

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And then on TV every time I say this and it's like I'm talking to Rachel Maddow or something

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and she's like, you can't possibly believe that I will continue on with the speech, but

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then I'll do that.

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I'll give I'll give a big old wink.

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I'll be like and you get it.

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This is and they're gonna be like, ha ha.

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We saw that wink.

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I'll be like, you can't trust that wink.

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I was I was scratching my eyes.

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That wasn't a wink.

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You're still going to end up inadvertently tricking a lot of people.

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But I'm trying to trick the ones who need to be tricked, the ones who are already tricked.

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I'm trying to trick them back.

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See, this is where you get into real dangerous games.

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You'll end up creating a mythology that will run away from you in a way that you can't

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control anymore.

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I know.

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In the same way the Koch brothers creating the Tea Party got out of control for them

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to a point where they can't control that anymore.

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In the same way, you would create some sort of weird blinking mythology of like there'd

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be some sort of like a demon sign.

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You're trying to trigger the attack teams by winking.

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I'm not trying to trigger anybody.

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You can't prove that.

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Can't fall back on you.

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Trust me, from my research of these people, they're not concerned with proving things.

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Exactly.

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So you say you can't prove that is not a deterrent to them saying it.

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Yeah, but I'm saying it back at them.

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We're at an impasse.

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We cancel each other out.

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That's not how that works.

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We cancel each other out and then rational people are allowed to take over behind our

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backs.

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That's not how that works.

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OK.

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Anyway, I don't know what to say in summation of this.

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I hope your plan works out.

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I'm not going to join you.

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But good luck.

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All right.

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I'm going to give it a shot.

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So anyway, here we are.

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November 11th, 2010, Alex Jones does not care about Soros at all.

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Nope.

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And he thinks that Glenn Beck, while his misunderstanding of that hardball clip is nice, thinks he's

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a fool for thinking that Soros is the puppet master of the New World Order globalist, because

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of course it's the Federal Reserve, the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, as he believed in 2009.

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So there's been no advancement on that front.

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Gotcha.

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Whatever.

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Crazy.

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Alex is stupid.

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Anyway, we have a website.

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Knowledgefight.com.

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We do have a website.

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Knowledgefight.com.

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Yep.

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What if you wanted to find us on some sort of social media network?

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Well, there's Twitter.

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We had knowledge underscore fight.

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Is there another one?

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Facebook.

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Is there a smaller place within one of those social media networks?

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We have a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.

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Indeed we do.

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Could you find us on iTunes?

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Yep.

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We're there.

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What if you subscribe?

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You could do that.

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How about leaving a review?

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That'd be nice.

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That would be a good idea.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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It would be really nice.

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But you know what's not really nice?

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What's that?

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I know Glenn Beck hasn't killed a guy.

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Well, we don't know that.

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We don't know that.

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But he is not said on air that he probably killed a guy.

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Unlike one guy I know named Alex Jones.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.