Transcript/201: A New Messiah and The Plunger Toss

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan!

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Indeed we are. Dan?

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Hey there, friend.

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Dan?

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What?

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Have you ever started a fire from, uh, from a bow drill?

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Well, I don't even- I'm try- first of all, I don't know what a bow drill is.

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I-

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It's a thing that you use to start a fire.

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It's like a drill.

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Barquarts, uh, uh, shop class in, uh, in my middle school was not- did not include bow drills.

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Okay.

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Oh, are you talking about one of those things where you-

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Yeah, where you're just like, well, no, no, no, that's a great- that's some great podcast acting out right there.

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It's not really a drill so much as a thing to make a fire out in the woods.

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Yeah!

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I definitely tried, I'm sure I've never succeeded.

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Alright.

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Have you ever made a fire with anything other than a lighter?

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Yeah!

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Yeah, I mean, I used to camp a lot.

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Did you?

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Yeah.

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How'd you make fires when you camped?

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Propane torch.

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Hahahaha!

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Not a lighter.

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Not a lighter, technically not a lighter, fair enough.

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I think I've started re- I- I know that I have, but they've never been impressive.

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Right.

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I've started little small fires with, uh, like, flint.

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Mm-hmm.

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For sure.

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But I've- I don't think that I've ever been able to then transition that to a larger fire.

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Okay, I gotcha.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, building up the-

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You couldn't turn the coal into the, like, thing-

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I don't think so.

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And then you hold it in your hands and you blow on it and then you set it down.

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Generally, I was drunk.

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Fair enough, fair enough.

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Central Missouri time we're talking about.

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That sounds about right for Central Missouri, uh, uh, flame building.

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Have you started a fire with a bar drill, mister, uh, I don't like camping.

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I don't even like going outside.

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Come on, I've never started a fire.

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Gotta get into nature, my friend.

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Hell no.

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Hell no!

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So, this is a show where I preach the gospel of nature and know a lot about Alex Jones, and you do not.

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Exactly.

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Before we begin today's show, I'd like to take a moment to give a shout-out and a...

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meh.

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Uh...

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That's a weird- that's a weird thing.

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Well, the shout-out is fine, but the weh is about our last episode.

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The shout-out goes to my good friend Nicky Gifts, one of my best buds in the world.

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Uh, he was listening to the episode and he contacted me and informed me that that story about Ron Paul possibly being involved with the takeover of Dominica-

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Not true?

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No, it was on an episode of The Dollop, and I didn't remember that-

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Oh, god damn it!

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I don't remember, I don't know if I-

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Fucking, we don't get to do the-

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But it really pulled me out.

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Yeah, we don't get to do- what are we gonna do, The Simpsons?

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The Simpsons did it first, fine.

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Fuck off.

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I'll get it.

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Fuck off.

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So, anyway, sorry if you guys have heard that from there already.

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Yeah, come on, the whole My Favorite Murder podcast is entirely about them just reading shit that other people have done.

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I think we're fine.

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Fair enough.

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As long as we didn't mis- as long as we didn't purposefully mis- misattribute it, then I think we're good.

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Did not.

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And I just, I, you know, feel self-conscious.

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It's irrelevant.

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Yeah.

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But, um, I just- I felt like it was our due diligence to call that out.

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Yeah.

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I don't know, man.

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Weird American history intersects with a lot of the stuff that we end up talking about.

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Right.

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So, oh well.

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Anyway, something that is not meh-

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There you go.

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Anyway, is, uh, our new, uh, donors.

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Perfect.

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A shout-out to a couple people who stepped in and, uh, decided to support the show.

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Very exciting.

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I'd like to give, first of all, a shout-out to Tiffany.

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Congratulations, you are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you, Tiffany.

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Hey, Tiffany!

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We appreciate it so much.

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We also appreciate Weston.

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Thank you, you are now, uh, a policy wonk.

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Weston.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you.

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Weston, before you continue to donate, you do know my, uh, hard yes on white genocide,

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right?

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I'm not saying you're white, but Weston has a really white name.

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That- it- it has the feeling of maybe aristocracy.

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Yeah.

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A little bit.

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Well, that should not be held against him or her.

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I'm not sure.

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I don't know if I want to gender the name Weston.

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There you go.

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I have no idea.

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I have no idea either.

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All I know is the direction and, uh, on top.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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West on.

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West on.

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Also, I'd like to give a shout-out and a thank you to, uh, Joseph.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you very much, Joseph.

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And finally, we'd like to thank somebody who has come in on a high level.

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Someone who is, uh, going way above and beyond, and their name, uh, is very appropriate.

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I would like to call them this, even if it weren't the name they use on Patreon.

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Thank you so much, Big Tim.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars, go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy Shark, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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He's a loser, little, little titty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people.

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I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Thank you, Big Tim.

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Thank you very much, Big Tim.

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We appreciate it oh so much.

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And if any of you listening out there would like to support the show, as these fine folks

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and many others have, you can go to our website, knowledgefight.com, click that button that

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says support the show, and we would appreciate it.

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Indeed you can.

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Thank you all.

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Now, Jordan, we've got to get down to business.

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Sure.

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It's been a long road to hoe.

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We've been, uh, we've talked a lot of, a lot of Alex Jones in the last, uh, let's say three

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weeks or so.

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We have not had many, uh, sidetracks.

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No, we haven't taken a break.

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It's been hardcore.

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We've not.

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And actually, Nikki Gifts, when I was texting with him earlier, he said, you need to take

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a vacation.

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Yeah, that sounds right.

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So tonight we're taking a little vacation.

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Here is an out of context drop from our vacation.

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Oh, I've been to jail.

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I've been to jail.

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I have no problem with going to jail.

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All right, fine.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Sweary Carrie Cassidy and Project Camelot guys, we are back in business.

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Hey!

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Oh, this is such a relief.

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Although the out of context drop being a guy who's fine with going to jail and has been

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there before, all of a sudden now I'm like, is this going to turn into one of those episodes

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where you did a ton of research and it's like, this guy has killed nine people and somehow

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he got out on the technicality because he believes in too much space for them to commit

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him.

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It almost was.

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And I need to call this out ahead of time just in case anybody Googles this and, uh,

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you know, it was like, whoa, what the fuck?

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They didn't talk about this.

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Um, the guy we're going to be covering is a guy named Ronald Farham.

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And I was looking into it and I found a dude named Ronald Farnham who was arrested for

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child pornography.

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That's not good.

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I don't want to, I don't want that to be our dude.

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I was like, Oh, this, this ruins all the fun here.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It turns out as what, from what I understand, I was reading about it on a message board.

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It's a different dude, different middle names.

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Right.

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Ronald Farnham was off planet at the time.

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No, no, no.

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Legit different dude.

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Oh, okay.

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We can laugh because this guy, the only time he's been arrested as far as I can tell, uh,

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is in 2016 on August 31st, Ronald Farnham was arrested in Augusta, Georgia when security

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guards told him to stop selling CDs on Augusta mall property, according to a Richmond County

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police report.

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He's got a great mixtape.

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Does the police report remind you how great his mixtape is?

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It does not.

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Okay.

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It does say that Farnham refused to leave and told law enforcement that private property

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laws don't apply to him because he's part of the people.

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That is a good reason.

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So that's a good reason.

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That's the only arrest I can find for him.

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I don't know if you ended up going to prison for that, but is the people a larger group

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or just the people?

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I'm sure he capitalizes it, whatever the case is.

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So I already told you, uh, this guy's name and, uh, let's jump into Carrie's introduction

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for him.

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Hi everyone.

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I'm Carrie Cassidy and very happy to be here tonight.

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So we've got a fascinating guest and his name is Ronald Russell Farnham.

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And I think his family name is somewhat well known.

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So I'm going to actually ask him about that, but I'm going to bring him on the show here

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just if you stand by.

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And uh, Ronald, welcome.

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Hey Carrie, how are you?

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Thanks for having me on.

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Um, I don't know how much I can answer about my, my name, my Farnham last name, but Russell

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name is a little bit different.

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He doesn't really explain, but I don't, I don't particularly, I don't know what this

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dog.

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I'm looking forward to making a lot of Futurama references.

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I understand.

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Jordan, this is gonna happen.

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Jordan, you can't get bogged down on him not explaining his name.

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We have so much to get through.

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You can't just say that, but what did he even say?

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Nothing.

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Carrie reinterjects and directs.

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Russell.

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Russell is a little bit of a different story.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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Fine, fine, fine, fine, fine.

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Let's keep moving.

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Let's keep moving.

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Let's keep moving.

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So, uh, at this point, uh, you know, you probably want to know what he's doing on the show,

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especially given that, like, in the last couple months Carrie's guests have been a janitor

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who's discovered a hyperspace drive.

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Who else could have?

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I've seen Good Will Hunting.

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Three interviews with a racist, uh, Pleiadian named Eddie Page.

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Really?

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You can't find a racist anymore.

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Except in space.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Uh, and so, like, you're like, what is this guy's deal?

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What's he coming to the table with?

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But thankfully, uh, to start this episode off, Ronald Farham gives his own, uh, sort

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of bonafides, his curriculum vitae, his resume.

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I will say ahead of time, I can't confirm or deny any of this, but I don't believe it.

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Let's write down a list.

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You know, I know it's kind of wide ranging, your background, so can we, can we start out

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with, uh, your, your, your, your stint, your, uh, I think you said 15 years in the Department

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of Defense?

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Yeah.

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In 93, I went into the army as a signals intelligence analyst and a Korean linguist, and I went

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through all the training.

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I went to a language school up in Monterey at Defense Language Institute in Monterey

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for a couple of years, studied Korean, and then I went to signals intelligence school,

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and then I went to Korea, and then I went to Fort Gordon, uh, in Korea, I basically

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was doing briefings in Korean and technical briefings, and then, um, that was while I

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was still on active duty, I became a sergeant over there in Korea, and then I came back

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to the States and I went to Fort Gordon, uh, for a year and I worked in the GCCTK, which

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is, it's a facility where we monitored, um, Korea because that was my area of responsibility

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because I was Korean linguist, and then I went to Central Command and I worked in the

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signals intelligence overhead collection management office for about three years, uh, up until

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2001.

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In fact, my last day on active duty was Friday, September 7th, um, 2001, just a few days,

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four days before 9-11.

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Hmm.

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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

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Are you concocting a theory?

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I don't know.

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He has told us a lot about where he was all the way up until 9-11.

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It's true.

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It's kind of suspicious that he leaves out where he was on 9-11, Dan.

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Very weird.

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Very suspicious.

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So, I, I think that's real dry and he's just giving the names of stuff, I can't even find

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some of these things, like if you Google them, like, the CC, GCCTK.

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Yeah.

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I don't fucking know what that is.

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I don't care.

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Wasn't that a great, uh, Canadian sitcom?

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Yes, absolutely.

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Something like that.

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It came on after Black Books.

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Hey, that's a great fucking show, Dan.

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Calm down.

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That's a great fucking show.

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Dylan Morin?

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Fantastic.

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No, he's not.

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We saw him live.

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Alright, he wasn't at his best.

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He wasn't at his best.

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That's fine.

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That's fine.

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Um, nothing against the man, but, um, so the only reason that I want to play that, and

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I'm going to play another clip where he's describing his resume, is because it's interesting

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to hear, uh, the affect in his voice.

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He's talking about this so dispassionately and almost just sort of, like, laying out

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names of places, and then, like, two years I was there, bop-da-dop-dop-dop, there's nothing

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in, uh, there's nothing in it that indicates, like, he's drawing from memories.

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It's almost like he's memorized a bunch of stuff, and he's just kind of reciting it.

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Yeah, you know, like, the way that you memorize your, uh, your bio all the time, and you say

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it repeatedly to anyone who will ever listen to the point where you have it down as a rote

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page.

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I am Dan.

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It's a thing that we all do, right?

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I worked at Starbucks two months.

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Yeah!

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Yeah, easy!

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Yeah.

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I, I think that there's something to that, and I wish at any point Kerry would have just

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said anything to him in Korean, just to see, like...

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I know, I, the first thing he said, he was like, I learned Korean, and I was like, fucking

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prove it.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Fuck you, you're on Project Camelot, I don't believe a goddamn word.

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There was a great episode of Love Line where a caller, uh, had, like, the sort of hillbilly

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voice, he had that twang, uh, and he was talking about, like, how he knew Russian, or something

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like that.

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Sure.

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And, uh, I don't remember who the guest was, it might have been Isai Morales, and, uh,

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so the, uh, the caller's talking about, like, knowing Russian, and then Isai Morales just

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starts talking to him in Russian, and the guy straight up does know Russian.

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Oh shit!

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They start having a conversation, like, a hillbilly...

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That's awesome!

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...and an actor.

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That is great!

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Yeah, it was awesome.

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I love that.

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It was such a good moment that I remember it 20 years ago.

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Yeah!

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No, well, but you never expect...

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That's great radio!

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...you never expect the hillbilly!

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Yeah.

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Any time a hillbilly demonstrates some sort of talent beyond what a hillbilly should,

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everybody's like, holy shit, this is a magic hillbilly!

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And I would have had the same moment had he busted out some Korean at any point in life.

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Yeah, of course!

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Alright, I guess you do know Korean.

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Yeah!

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But, uh, so far I cannot prove that he does.

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But from that resume, like I said, there's, there does seem to be a memorization, uh,

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part of the brain triggering in, does feel that way from the way he's speaking, and then

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beyond that, from what he's describing, I could just say, like, maybe you were a translator

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for something and then you're putting on a bunch of things in your resume that you know

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that no one will say no, you didn't.

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Yeah.

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Because these departments that he's describing, like the Department of Defense is never going

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to be like, this guy is lying about working here, because then every time someone came

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out and said that they worked there, they'd have to either deny it or that would prove

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that they did work there.

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Exactly.

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That's the same that they'd never get into, is that blows any kind of secrecy.

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So his, his entire, so he's counting this as working for the Department of Defense?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, it sounds more like he just worked as a low-level translator.

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Well, he was doing briefings.

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I mean, but it sounds more like he was translating briefings.

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There's a good chance about that, and that would probably necessitate some level of clearance.

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Well, yeah, I mean, you gotta be able to talk.

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Sure, sure.

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So there, there's, there's an outside possibility he had some sort of low-level clearance, and

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then he's turned it into something else.

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And then after years of service, he took the test to become a sergeant, and they, they

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all like, and he got a promotion, and that's great.

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And then he left right before 9-11, but so that's not the end of his service.

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Oh, it's not?

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No, because after 9-11, 9-11 brought him back in.

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He has some more resume to go over.

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Oh boy.

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And then I became a contractor for about six years, and I worked right after 9-11 in Washington

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D.C. working on critical node mapping.

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I was working for a company called Greyhawk.

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I looked into this.

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I can only find a construction advising company on the East Coast called Greyhawk.

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I don't know what he's talking about, but.

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And he called it critical node mapping?

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Right, right.

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That actually does sound like something that a construction company would be interested

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in knowing.

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You know, like, you want to know where nodes are before you start building?

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Just pick on a national level.

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Yeah, you want to know where nodes are.

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I don't know.

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Come on.

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Greyhawk.

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And they were basically working for a CIA effort to map all of the critical nodes in

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the United States.

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You got to know where the nodes are.

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Because we had just come out of 9-11, everybody was thinking security, we wanted to, they

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were making a huge spreadsheet on all the areas that we need to keep an eye on and protected

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from terrorist attack.

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The nodes.

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And then after that, I went down to Southern Command for a couple of years and I was a

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counterterrorism analyst.

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My area of responsibility was Mexico, Central America and South America.

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And funny enough, during my time at Southern Command, Northern Command stood up.

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So what?

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Hold on.

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Northcom stood up.

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Hold on.

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Right.

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Hold on.

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Is he setting up a climactic battle between Northern Command and Southern Command?

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I don't know.

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I don't know what's coming, man.

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We're just listening to this.

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Because I feel like what I'm hearing in our future is a command civil war of some sort.

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I assume Northern Command wears the blue.

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And Southern Command, which put him in charge of counterintelligence for South America and

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Mexico and the surrounding area on account of that he speaks Korean.

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What?

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What?

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I don't know.

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Why?

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Huh?

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Where are these nodes at, too?

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Give me some node information.

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You can't know.

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They're too critical to be public information.

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So I mean, look, the thing here is that he's just following basically online conspiracy

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world narratives.

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It was like Northcom was created in 2002.

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And so the idea that he's saying, like, they stood up is what, like, a lot of the people

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like the Alex Joneses of the world, they build that into their conspiracy worldview of, like,

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they were, it's part of a takeover.

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Right.

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Which you'll get to in this next clip.

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But...

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The Southcom will rise again, though.

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They do think, meh, they might.

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So the language they stood up...

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Yeah.

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That's what I'm interested in.

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Well, thankfully, Kerry finally asks a rebuttal question about that very thing.

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The fuck?

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You're saying?

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Every command has an area of responsibility and every command has a J-2.

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And so Northern Command stood up in their area of responsibility in 2003, 2000, late

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2002.

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There, when they stood up, was Canada, the United States, and Mexico.

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Okay.

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I just want to ask you a question.

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What does stood up mean?

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It means they opened up for business.

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Northern Command hadn't really been open for business yet, and they were taking on their

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area of responsibility.

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So around the end of 2002, when Northern Command opened up for business and became a command,

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the United States of America officially physically invaded the United States with Northern Command.

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So they opened up for business.

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They opened up for business.

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Is it like with a storefront operation?

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Did they start small and then expand?

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No, they had a soft open.

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They had a soft...

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Well, that's good.

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You don't want to...

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The night before.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Get everyone acquainted to the idea that this business is coming to their neighborhood.

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I hired a couple of chefs.

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And then they invaded the United States.

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They did what now?

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So the United States basically invaded the United States through NORTHCOM.

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Yes, in the same way that the United States had previously, in 1963, invaded the United

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States when Southern Command started.

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I don't fucking know, man.

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This is just...

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What?

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The United States is espousing essentially very baseline patriot community beliefs.

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How old is he?

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He doesn't sound like he's old enough to...

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He's 49.

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He's 49.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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I know that because...

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He says he's 49.

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Boy, does he tell a bit of his life story.

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We're getting a bit into the weeds of his resume, which I think is really unimportant.

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I'm really just laying this out because most of this is completely unfalsifiable.

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Like I said, no one from NORTHCOM is gonna be like, fuck you, you didn't work, you douche.

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Don't they have a long-standing rival?

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Isn't every year, don't they play the NORTHCOM, SOUTHCOM football game?

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The Army-Navy game?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Isn't that a big one?

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It's shirts and skins, though.

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So you would think...

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Blue and gray, somehow.

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You would think...

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SOUTHCOM has gray skin.

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You would think, my friend, if this guy was supposedly a contractor doing high-level terrorism

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analysis for Central Command and then it was brought in to Northern Command, which he says

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he's around when that was happening, when they stood up and opened for business.

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You would think you'd know something about the structure of it.

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You would think.

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Uh-oh.

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And so we physically are, we are invaded by the Department of Defense here in the United

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States.

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Okay.

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Wait, wait, wait.

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Slow down.

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Okay.

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So who does, who did you all report to if Northern Command took over?

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Who was head of that ballgame?

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Northern Command is headquartered in Colorado.

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So the Joint Chiefs?

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Joint Chiefs?

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Are we talking Joint Chiefs?

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Well, all of the commands work together.

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So they all report to the head of the Department of Defense, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the

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President of the United States.

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Okay.

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Do you know who you were, who was the top guy when you were there under, you know, who

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was the Northern Command's top guy?

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No, I don't know who the Northern Command top guy was, who the general was.

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I know my general was General Zinni.

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General Zinni?

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He was the guy who was in charge of CENTCOM around then, but he was also, like, he was

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directly involved overseas and stuff.

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He wasn't around.

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If he was reporting directly to General Zinni, he is someone who would have gone before Congress.

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Because General Zinni had to testify in front of Congress about, like, the justification

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for the Iraq war and stuff like that.

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Right, right, right, right.

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And we all know he did a great job.

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I don't know.

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His research didn't go too deep into all of his exact involvement, but General Zinni,

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big dude, a big name in military circles.

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So the idea that he was, like, he was my direct supervisor or is my general, I think you probably

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fucking know who's in charge of NORTHCOM.

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Wouldn't you have just, on any reputable show, you'd have been like, all right, dude, click,

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and then just hung up.

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And she's, but she's doing everything she can to be like, uh, give me something, give

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me something, man.

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Is, was it the Joint Chiefs?

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Was it Joint Chiefs?

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No, no, no.

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Okay.

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Was it Secretary of State?

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What do you got?

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Who's in charge of this ballgame?

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Who the fuck?

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Do you even know who the fucking president was when this happened?

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Probably not.

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God damn it, man.

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Like, real talk, when I was 15, 16, working at a movie theater, I knew who the CEO of

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our company was.

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Really?

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I knew who the district manager was over our company.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Even though they didn't have any, like, influence in my life at all.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I don't remember the district manager's name now, but the CEO was named Bob Goodrich.

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Bob Good, well, that's hard to forget, though.

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It was Goodrich Theaters, too.

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Because you want to drive over him with your Goodrich tires.

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And he showed up one time, he was a lunatic.

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I think that also probably helped him stick out in my mind.

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But I knew who he was even before he ever showed up at our theater.

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That was like a couple of years into me working there.

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My point is that if you are higher up in CENTCOM and you then get absorbed or taken over by

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NORTHCOM, you're going to fucking know who the guy in charge of NORTHCOM is.

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You might even resent him a little bit for taking over.

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Especially if you think that that's what happened and you already definitely resent the organization,

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you'd probably have a figure head up.

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You might almost have something stuck in your craw over it.

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Or a picture of him on the wall that you throw darts at.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Something silly like that.

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So I don't believe a lot of this story.

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I'm going to go out on a limb.

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I'm going to say it was Hillary.

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Yep.

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Hillary took over NORTHCOM.

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Could be.

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Why doesn't anybody just ask me dumb questions like this?

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Might as well.

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Just throw me in there.

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So I do want to say that I don't believe any of Ronald Farnam's story so far.

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But credit where credit's due, in this next clip, he blows 9-11 wide open.

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All right, there we go.

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He solves 9-11.

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All right.

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And here's what happened.

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So I started diving into that information and I found that all of the information from

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September 8th to the 13th had been scrubbed.

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So real quick, this is him talking about when he had come back as a contractor.

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Right, of course.

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So now he's looking at top secret material that he has no business looking through.

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He is telling the truth.

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He is admitting to a felony on this show.

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And him discussing it is a felony.

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We can neither confirm nor deny that it would be a felony were he to reveal this information

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on Project Camelot.

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I'm pretty sure it's a hard felony.

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Can't confirm or deny that.

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There was nothing in there I could find about what was going on the few days before and

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the few days after 9-11.

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What was going on in Korea?

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I bet you could find that out.

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So it kind of told me that they, they might have reclassified it, but.

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Yeah, you know, that would be my theory.

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My theory would be that that's on a very strict need to know basis.

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So low level contractors can't get access to that information and tell Carrie Cassidy

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about it.

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I would say that that's probably a good thing.

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Pretty wise of the government to be like, hold on, let's put that in another box.

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I'm gonna go with nah dude, you don't get the, hey, if I'm the government, all I'm thinking

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is after 9-11, you know, you have a couple of days to think about it and you're like,

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I bet if we give every Yahoo access to this information, we're going to get a lot of conspiracy

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theories out of it.

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Oh boy.

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Now little did they know that shit was going down anyways.

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Right.

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Their biggest problem though was that they did 9-11 and you can't hide that forever.

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Nope.

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Now you can classify all the documents you want, but those burns, what's the theory?

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The burns?

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There's burns?

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Sideburns?

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Yeah.

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Burn sides.

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And then 15 years later, one of the smartest detectives ever shows up on project Camelot.

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Does he speak Korean though?

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We can't confirm or deny that for sure.

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What I discovered in looking at that, even up to, you know, September 7th and September

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6th was that everybody who was involved in the alleged plot by the terrorists, these

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terrorists who allegedly carried everything out, was that everybody was under surveillance.

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And at the time I was classmates with two of the people, two of the alleged hijackers

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at St. Leo University on MacDill Air Force Base, on the base, there was a St. Leo University

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campus there.

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I would go to class at night because I was wanting to finish up my bachelor's degree

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and around 2000 I finished it up.

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So real quick, name names.

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Second, he doesn't.

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Oh, he doesn't?

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Third.

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That's a surprise.

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Now he's buried the lead and we are supposed to believe that he had high level top secret

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clearance and was a high level Korean translator and got hired as a contractor to do counterintelligence

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work and all this stuff.

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And he didn't have a bachelor's degree, which I know is not impossible, but I find very

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unlikely.

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I think it's very unlikely.

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Man, this is, look, he's got street smarts.

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True.

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Does he?

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No.

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And there were code words used in the reporting and they referred to going to get married.

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And that was what was in the reporting, that the terrorists who were passing information,

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making communications were using the code term getting married, referring to, oh, we're

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off to get married.

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Everybody's leaving to get married.

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And that was the code word they were using.

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And after 9-11, I kind of looked back at some of these two classmates and they were using

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the same language around the same time.

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We would stand outside class, wait for them to go into our next class.

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We would have a break and we would talk.

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And they were telling me how they were going to get married, but they wouldn't give me

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any details.

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And I didn't really think of anything of it.

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I thought they were just being goofy middle Eastern guys who were just had their own little

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inside joke.

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What?

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And that was the farthest thing from my mind that that was a code term for the 9-11 operation.

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I'd like to offer a second theory.

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Were they getting married?

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I think that there's a very high likelihood that these were not the terrorists who did

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9-11 or anything like that.

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He just was in a class with a couple of middle Eastern dudes and they were probably talking

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about getting married and they didn't want him to come, which is weird.

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I'm guessing that that is as likely as this, but who knows?

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But even then with his story, he was like, I started thinking about it 10 years later.

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So even by project Camelot standards, that's weak sauce.

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What do you mean?

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Now you're just flashbacking conversations you had 10 years ago with random strangers

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who- Middle Eastern guys giggled when they talked

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about getting married?

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Yeah.

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What are you talking about, dude?

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Yeah.

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Weak.

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Very.

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You should have been like, I have a photographic memory so I can do this whole thing.

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I can pull it right away.

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Otherwise we're getting into unreliable narrator territory here.

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We're there.

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We're deep into that.

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No, I trusted it up until this point and then it was out.

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Him saying he has a photographic memory and can call all this back, that would be a bit

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of a brag.

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Certainly.

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That'd be something that he's- Well, if there is one thing we know about

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him so far, it's how modest he is.

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Very modest.

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And that ends in this next clip when he explains why his time as a contractor ended and boy,

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I don't- If there's ever been a fish story on this podcast, it is this.

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The national security agency emailed me and a few other analysts on an email about a specific

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terrorist problem.

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And they asked if I could give feedback or solution or what my thoughts were.

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So I put together a point by point plan on how to stop terrorist activity across earth.

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Forever.

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Where we would not have to worry about any more terrorist activity, period.

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Very simple solution.

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And the next day- Demolish borders.

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And I sent it right to the national security agency.

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The next day I got called into my commander's office and they pulled the email out and they

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said, did you send this to the national security agency?

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And I said, yes.

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They wanted information.

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They wanted a solution.

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I thought this was the best I could come up with and they said, okay.

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And so I left and then the next day they wanted to pull me off of my contract.

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So I talked to my manager, my contract manager.

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That's not military.

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Let him go.

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Yeah, he's a manager.

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And I asked if I could just resign because I didn't really feel like I did anything wrong.

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Like I just solved worldwide terrorism and they got to fire him for it.

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I know.

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That's rough.

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The damnedest thing.

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Now, admittedly, the tenor of that conversation, when you go back and look at the transcripts,

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which I do have access to, and I have a photographic memory so I can tell you pull it right, right

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from.

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Can't wait to hear this.

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Okay.

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So the guy says, did you write this email and send it to the national security agency?

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And Farnam of course says yes.

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And then he said, you know, ants can't run the world, right?

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Well, hold on.

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Hold on.

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You don't know about my ant ray that I've created.

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And then the next day they threatened to pull him off his contract.

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That's crazy.

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I don't know why.

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You know what else is crazy?

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He never explains what his plan is.

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It seems like now would be a great time to share it.

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Anytime.

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With everyone.

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Anytime would be great.

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If you did it, you should just email it to anybody.

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It's not like because you came up with the idea and sent it to the NSA that now that's

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classified.

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It's classified.

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Just fucking come out with it.

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It was in an email.

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So actually I think I've, as Alex Jones would like to say, reverse engineered what his plan

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is, but I'm going to have to leave that for later to tell you what I think possibly is

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how he would end worldwide terrorism.

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Point by point though.

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There's one point.

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Did he have a bullet list?

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Nope.

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One point.

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Okay.

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This is a very simple solution.

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Don't even guess.

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Don't even guess.

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No, no, no, no, no, no.

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It's not that bad.

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It's dumb.

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Because I don't want him to kill all the ants, Dan.

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No, no.

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Ants are safe.

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Okay.

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So he has this supposition, I guess, that he can end worldwide terrorism with this plan.

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To which Kerry is like, hey man, you know, they would do terrorism intentionally.

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That's the government.

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That's why they had to shut him down.

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Which leads to this.

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They wanted me out of there.

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So I told them, I go, fine, I'm going to resign.

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And then it's going to be my mission to stop this madness.

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Because I know you guys don't really, if you're not going to implement this solution, I just

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know that you don't really want to, and I could tell by the way they were behaving that

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they don't really want to stop terrorist activity.

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You probably know as well as I do that it's a, it's an operation, it's a money making

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machine.

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Ah.

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Well it's, it's also, you know, it's the state, it's the coercive arm of the state trying

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to put fear into the people by creating false flags.

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Actually I wasn't supposed to say that on my YouTube channel, so creating, can I say

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it?

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No.

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Create, you can't say it.

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So creating FFs.

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Wait, what?

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No, that doesn't, no, you don't get away with it.

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So she's not allowed to say false flags anymore, I assume because she got the...

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This isn't true.

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She got the, oh, she's not even not allowed to do.

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She got in trouble because she had people on who are very specifically calling specific

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people crisis actors in a form of targeted harassment about particularly Parkland and

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other shootings and tragedies.

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So she has contextualized that and turned it into I'm not allowed to say false flag

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on the show anymore, which I would say this episode, pretty good evidence that you can.

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And even if you, even if you literally weren't allowed to say false flag on there, anybody

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who's paying attention would be like, oh, you can't say FF either.

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You idiot.

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It's the same thing.

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If you mean false flag, you can't just abbreviate it and then you're fine.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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You don't understand.

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The government is trying to scare the public by follow Friday.

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Oh no, I would never call them crisis actors, but they are CAs.

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You know what I'm saying?

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They've got a good talent agent.

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You know what I mean?

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The government was trying to terrorize the people by putting out the fantastic four movie.

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That is not, that's not wrong.

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It's an interesting theory that I'm working on for my next book.

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Yeah.

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Spoiler alert.

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This guy's written some books.

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Oh no.

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What?

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Why?

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So before we get into it.

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Why can't I finish a fucking book if this asshole can?

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So before we get into that, cause this episode is going to go off the rails real hard, real

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fast.

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But before that happens, Kerry wants to know like you were a contractor with top secret

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access.

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Why are you going through and like trying to find this information that you definitely

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were outside the auspices of your job?

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Why the fuck aren't you Snowden?

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It's a good question.

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Why didn't you do anything like that?

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You had access to all the information.

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It's a good question.

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You didn't become Snowden.

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So how did that not happen?

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Kind of like, you know what I'm saying?

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Well I started investigating plus one for Kerry by the way, the Kennedy assassination,

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to find out who killed JFK and I started looking through the top secret messages that I could

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find in the Intel database where I was working because I had, and this is while I was in

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Korea.

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So this was 93, 94, 95.

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I was in Korea, I'm sorry, this was 97, 98.

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I was in Korea and I started going through the databases there and starting to sit through

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some of the Intel top secret stuff that I could find in different databases to find

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out about the story for JFK.

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And I found the cover story and it's the same cover story, it was like a two page cover

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story about what happened and who was blamed and it was basically, and it was a top secret

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document, but it pretty much was the same cover story.

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So I realized at that point that I wasn't going to get the true answers from the military

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and from the top secret information because that's compartmentalized.

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So he didn't become Snowden because all of the information you can get from top secret

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files is just all fake anyway.

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So his answer is, well, I was in Korea and I had access to top secret information, but

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I was bored in my day job, you know, like most people would be.

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So I just started looking into whether or not the government killed JFK.

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Then I go through all their top secret files and for some reason, even the government's

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top secret files say what the cover story is.

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There's some sort of narrative consistency there, even in their top secret files, Dan.

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That means there can only be even more top secret files, top, top secret files, Dan,

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that tell you the true story.

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That's something of the implication of it.

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And then even beyond that, that's his way of getting himself off the hook for not doing

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a data dump or anything like that.

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He's like, everything I found wasn't much anyway, who knows, which again, I think is

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probably evidence that he's making this up or that he didn't have the access that he's

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pretending to have.

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I think there's a pretty strong theory about that now.

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Or that no matter what you say, even if you have access to the top secret documents themselves,

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conspiracy theorists are going to conspirize.

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That's what's going to happen.

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There's no convincing somebody like this dude.

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That's what's going to happen.

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But what's going to happen right now is that everything is going to go very wrong on this

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interview.

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Everything is about to get so insane.

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I would say that up until now, what are we, like 36, 37 minutes into the episode?

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I think this has been kind of us just being like, I don't believe your credentials.

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This doesn't make sense.

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And that's not good enough for a Project Camelot episode.

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If I'm digging in, I need raptors or I need something of that level.

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And believe it or not, Ronald Farham delivers.

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When I resigned, I immediately started writing my first book, Second Coming of the Messiah,

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which was an autobiographical in a sense as to how I kind of had reached that tipping

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point of saying, wait a second, this is wrong.

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Something is wrong.

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Something has to be done about this.

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I'm not going to take this anymore.

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I'm just going to start doing something about it and I'm not going to be part of this anymore.

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And so I took all of that emotion that I went through with that transition and poured it

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into this story, which in the Second Coming of the Messiah is really two books.

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It's a story about this person who decides to save the world and come up with a solution

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and then takes action on it.

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And then the first half is about leading up from where the Bible ends to where we are

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now and where the Messiah starts and how the New World Order and currently the Illuminati

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and the powers that be got to where they are.

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Because I really think the latest iteration of Beast Hops or Adam Weishaupts is really

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now, and it seems somewhat like a cover story, but I think the bloodlines of thousands and

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millions of years before.

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So this isn't, this Illuminati just didn't start over the past couple of thousand years,

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two or three hundred years with the Rothschilds and the Powers.

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I think it's been going on for longer than they could even pretend to know or have information

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to back that information up.

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The Messiah is so boring, Dan!

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I hate to do this to you because he's never going to say, I am the new Messiah.

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But he's the fucking Messiah!

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He's clearly implying that he's the Messiah here.

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Oh yes.

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He thinks he's the Messiah!

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He's described his book as the sequel to the Bible.

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He's the fucking Messiah!

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Yes!

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There it is!

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There it is!

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For fuck's sake!

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Wait, wait, wait.

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So it's his autobiography.

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He does describe it as autobiographical.

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In a sense.

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The second Messiah.

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In a sense.

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And the first part is everything leading up to him finding out he's the Messiah.

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As I understand, he made a movie of this as well, and it's on Amazon Prime now.

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Oh, I can't afford that.

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I don't have that subscription.

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Even if it was free, you couldn't afford it.

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Not for that movie.

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But as I understand, and it might be the case in the book as well, I didn't read the book,

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but I think that he puts himself in character in the book, but it's supposed to be him.

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So it's like a female character who goes to Hollywood to try and make a movie of her book

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which involves the new Bible or something along those lines.

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It's wild.

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So he clearly, on at least some very real level, thinks he's the Messiah.

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Yeah, of course.

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Now, there's a possibility that he doesn't think that he's the son of God per se.

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He's just a Messiah.

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I think that he might be using the term Messiah to be like, I'm going to save the world, which

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he sort of expressed in that last clip, which I think feeds into his solution for worldwide

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terrorism.

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Right.

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Everybody do what he says.

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Which again, we'll get to in a little bit, and I will say, not to be a tease, bad plan.

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Little bad plan.

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If he is right, why can't he be more interesting?

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That was the most boring I've ever heard a person talk ever.

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Very boring.

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Incredibly boring.

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Oh, so spoiler alert, I found his Twitter.

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He has exactly one like or retweet over many, many, many tweets since April 21st, 2018.

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So it's been a good five months, one like.

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One like?

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Zero retweets.

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All right.

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Or I think one retweet also.

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It's going to be tough to be the Messiah with that low of a social media presence.

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You need SEO.

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You need engagement, baby.

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Yeah, come on.

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I mean, I feel bad about how little traction we get, and I feel great compared to the Messiah.

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Knowledge fight.

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We're a little bit better than the Messiah.

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We could pull a Beatles here.

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We get more retweets than the Messiah.

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So Jordan, that's his first book that he started writing in 2006 when he left Top Secret Work.

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Published.

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But Carrie brings up here because she is aware from reading his bio that he's got a new book

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he's working on.

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Oh yeah.

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You're actually, aren't you writing a book on Bloodlines right now, another book?

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Well all of my screenplays that I write, I turn into books.

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So I'm writing the screenplay and developing it right now.

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It's called The Lines of Destiny, and it's about the 13 major bloodlines who are controlling

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the physical domain, who are also being controlled by the archons, who are controlling them vibrationally

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with demonology, Satanism, sacrifices, ceremonies, energy.

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Got it.

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It's a laundry list.

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I want to pause here.

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He's not done.

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He's going to talk a little more about this book.

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His work is specifically non-fiction to him.

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This is real to him.

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This isn't like some sort of sci-fi book that he's like, I came up with the greatest plot.

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Isn't this wild and fantastical?

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He does believe in these 13 bloodlines that are psychically controlling the world and

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shit like that.

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No, no, no.

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The 13 bloodlines are controlling the physical world.

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They themselves are, of course, being controlled by the demonologists, the Satanists.

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What are the archons again?

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Those are like angelic beings, but they're probably nefarious and evil.

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David Icke talks about the archons a bit, and I think they have come up on another Project

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Camelot episode that we've done.

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I feel like there's probably antisemitism in the history of archons.

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I'm not sure about it right now, but it feels-

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Safe to assume.

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Yeah.

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The ability to shift in and out of vibrations.

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And so this group of bloodline members who are assassins for the different bloodlines

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decide to make a break from all of them because what's happened is that-

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This is the plot of the comic book, it's 100 bullets.

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... the timelines, and CERN is giving information to the different bloodlines, and the different

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bloodlines want certain timelines to manifest.

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Of course.

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So they're sending out orders to different assassins in their bloodline to go kill people

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and cause things to happen so that they can shift into the timeline that they want, and

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it's causing a lot of different Mandela effects for different people within the story.

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So the group-

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Well, that sounds like a cool story.

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Now you-

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Cool story.

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Cool.

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I will say that I-

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I thought the giggle that we got from Carrie earlier was going to be fun, but now that

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we're getting into her full on being like, you're full of shit, dude.

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I think Carrie is not having a good time.

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No, she is bummed out by this.

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So you got confused there at the end.

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Why?

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What was so- do you not understand the Mandela effect?

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No, no, no, no.

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I just don't understand how he thinks that makes any sense.

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That makes perfect sense.

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No, I mean if they can move between vibrations-

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CERN!

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CERN!

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So why do you need CERN to divine which timelines are best for you if you can move between all

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timelines whenever you want-

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Because CERN is a big-

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Because timelines are simultaneously occurring.

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CERN is a big spooky machine that exists in the real world and dumb people are afraid

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of it.

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Yeah.

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So it gives- it lends you like a little bit of, you know, like magical realism.

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Magical realism.

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And that's what you can do when you include CERN in here.

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You can sort of hide behind like, ooh, what if it is causing people- assassins to go create

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Mandela effects all over the place.

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Of course.

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The only one that most people know about is the Berenstain Bears.

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I'm not sure what the Illuminati gains from changing the spelling of a children's book.

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No, don't worry about it.

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What do you mean?

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I mean they gain a lot from it.

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How?

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You don't want to worry about it, Dan.

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Okay, I won't.

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Well, now you should!

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I'm worried because you're worried about it.

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I'm not really that worried about it.

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I'm confused.

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Well, the Berenstain Bears are.

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Berenstain Bears.

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What?

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Yep.

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That's how it's actually spelled.

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That's kind of anti-Semitic, isn't it?

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Berenstain.

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They had to send a Vatican assassin down there to kill him.

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I don't know, man.

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So you heard at the beginning of that clip, my dude, that this guy likes to write books

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that are his screenplays because he wants to inject some sort of like real shit into

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movies because he doesn't like movies for entertainment's sake.

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Isn't the other Mandela effect that, what was it, Sinbad was in-

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Kazam?

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Kazam?

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No, Shazam, I believe.

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Right, right, right.

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There's a second movie that everyone has forgotten.

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There's a bunch of them.

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Some of them are kind of fun because they do tickle a little part of your brain that's

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like, I kind of remember.

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No, I don't.

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You just get it like, eh.

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But at this point, Kerry is like, I know you are not famous, but I need to know, have you

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actually been in show business, because he's presenting himself as like, I've made movies.

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He writes screenplays.

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I write screenplays.

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He doesn't write books, he writes screenplays and then turns them into books because of

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course nobody is going to-

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Well, but then, because if he wrote the book first, he wouldn't be up for the Best Original

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Screenplay Oscar.

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That's true.

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He's thinking ahead.

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He's always got to be up for Best Adapted and that's just lame.

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Yeah, yeah.

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No one wants that.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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So Kerry asks, are you really in show business?

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And he gives, I would say the worst answer I've ever heard from anybody.

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Can you elaborate on how you kind of, are you in the business seriously or are you a

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side liner?

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Where are you at?

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I've gone in and come out and now I've got my niche.

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So I moved to LA in 2011 and started doing extra work in like hundreds of movies and

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TV shows and finally I got my SAG card and joined the Screen Actors Guild and it cost

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like $3,000 to join, but I joined the Screen Actors Guild so I'm a paid up member of the

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Screen Actors Guild.

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We'll keep going here with his story, but I want to stop there really quick to point

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out the difference in affect of him telling this story and his story about the time he

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spent in top secret work.

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He's engaged in this story.

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He's remembering, oh, I had to pay $3,000 to get my SAG card after I did all that fucking

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extra work.

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It was a huge pain in the ass.

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I had to go stand around.

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Hundreds.

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So he's, that's his brain, the part of his memory that actually has emotional attachment

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to it coming out and bringing in extraneous pieces of information because that's how human

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brains work.

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The rest of it is memorization that he's used to give some sort of credibility to the other

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parts of his narratives.

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I just want to point that out very clearly.

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And then I decided I wasn't really going to try and go the route where I wanted to become

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a star where I was going to get an agent.

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Lame.

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When I had agents, I was doing well in commercial spokesperson for different products.

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I was doing commercials.

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I was getting paid to do voiceovers and I was here in this Florida market.

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And so I moved to LA and wanted to take it to the next step.

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And then I realized that I could actually, I just had this charisma that I can get people

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together and I can produce and direct and write and file the paperwork for SAG.

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So that's what I did and I decided, and I hadn't heard that in Hollywood, that you don't

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want to try and if you're going to write something, you're writing for entertainment.

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You don't want to try and give like, you know, your opinion.

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You want to just write, it's all about entertainment.

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You don't want to really have some kind of a strong voice.

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And I thought, that's stupid.

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If I'm going to waste all of my time or spend all of my time.

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I think the one of the top grossing movies of all time is Avatar.

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That's a very preachy ass movie.

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To create something that I'm passionate about, I want to be able to retain my voice.

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So I decided to bring up a Messiah character and I wrote the movie Hollywood and Vine about

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this woman who wants to take down the global military industrial complex.

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She comes from the Pentagon, she goes to Hollywood with her book, the sequel to the Bible that

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she wrote, Second Coming of the Messiah.

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So his book is in the movie.

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The character comes from the Pentagon, the Department of Defense, goes to Hollywood,

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it makes a movie much like he has done, and is the Messiah.

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So again, just driving that home, he very clearly thinks he's the Messiah.

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He thinks he's the Messiah.

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And has written the sequel to the Bible.

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That's uh, and the sequel to the Bible is just the Second Coming of the Messiah?

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It suffered from the sophomore slump.

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Wasn't that in the regular Bible, though?

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Yeah, it was in the second part of it.

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The new part.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So what would you, and then you've got the...

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It's kind of a third Bible, really.

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Then you've got the LDS.

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Sure.

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You've got the Apocrypha.

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You've got the Golden Tablets.

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The Pseudepigrapha.

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Yeah, you've got those.

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The Lost Books of the Bible and Forgotten Books of Eden.

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Right, right.

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And then you've got...

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You have the Gnostic Scriptures.

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You have, uh...

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Lord of the Rings, The Return of the King.

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You do?

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Yes, yes, yes.

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That one's in there?

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Uh-huh.

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You've got...

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Well, then you've got the prequels, of course.

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Sure.

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Jar Jar Binks.

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You have other religious texts.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You've got Sumer.

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So...

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Oh, man.

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This guy is a little bit late, Dan.

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He's a little bit behind.

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Late isn't the word I would use.

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But look, okay, so we're clowning on him for being an extra, and there's no shame in being

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an extra.

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No, no, no, no.

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We're not clowning on him for that.

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I am a little bit.

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Okay, fine.

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You know, if you, like, just want to do it to have fun or, you know, if you want to try

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and see what it's like to be on a movie set, that sort of thing, I think that there's very

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valid reasons to do it.

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I think it's something that...

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You need 20 bucks.

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I think that it's something that most people in entertainment don't see as a viable path

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towards getting further in entertainment.

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Maybe just a little something you do as, like, the way I sell blood, you know?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Just a little thing to...

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I don't think this is going to make me a phlebotomist.

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No.

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You know?

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I have time, and I need money.

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They have money, and they need people who have time.

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He's expressing sort of, like, until he decided, I'm not going to become a star.

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But before that, he clearly thought, like, I'm going to go there, and I'm going to be

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so great at being an extra, that I'm going to get a line.

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And then from there, it's going to be great, I'm going to be awesome.

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It's going to be gravy.

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I'm going to get voiceover.

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What's his filmography?

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Did you even IMDB him?

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He is on IMDB.

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I'll pull it up in a second.

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Okay.

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But I think it's mostly his movies and this.

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So I did that movie, and then I performed on live TV on America's Got Talent.

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I performed on Guinness World Records, Gone Wild.

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Okay.

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Wait, wait, wait.

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What?

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Yeah.

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For real.

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Right, Kerry?

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I'm with you on this one.

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What are you, a drummer?

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Is that right?

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I have been a drummer.

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I was a drummer in some bands when I was earlier in the military and when I was in high school.

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But I actually was just cruising Craigslist one night, and I saw this ad for a talent

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casting director who wanted to know if you could do any of these different things.

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And I played college baseball, and I still play baseball, as a pitcher.

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And one of those things was throwing plungers.

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The Messiah was a pitcher.

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So I thought, oh, I can do that.

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I'm a pitcher.

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I could throw plungers.

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So I made an audition video that night, and then I sent it to them, get the world records

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gone wild, saying that I could break the record, the world record, for hitting the most number

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of people in one minute with the plungers.

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So they had me on their show twice.

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So we're not done with this, but you look like you have something on your tongue.

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So then on the tip of the tongue that needs to come out the mouth, he threw plungers at

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people because he played baseball before.

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The logical use of that talent.

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I would say that the locomotion of throwing a baseball, not the same as throwing a plunger.

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I mean, I don't know.

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You throw a good curveball, you throw a good plunger.

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That's an old saying.

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You're not trying to curve that plunger.

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No.

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Yeah, but it's the same.

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It's the same.

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You got to go over the top, Dan.

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You got to make sure that you throw the plunger.

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No.

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I would say-

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What?

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Wait, does the plunger have to stick to somebody?

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Yeah, you have to stick it in their bag.

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I would say that a better thing to give you credibility as a plunger thrower is, I've

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thrown axes or something like that.

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Or I am the Messiah.

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That seems like that would apply across a wide range of skills.

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So he was on America's Got Talent.

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He was on the show.

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The Guinness Book of World Records.

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You can find these videos.

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They are on YouTube.

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So our Messiah, who is going to lead the world from the thousand years of torment that we

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have existed in to the next 10,000 of holy bliss.

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Yes.

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He's really good at throwing plungers.

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Turns out he wasn't that good.

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What do you mean?

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He failed.

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What?

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But he's the fucking Messiah.

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God.

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Oh, man.

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Even Jesus blew it a few times.

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Yeah.

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He was a kid.

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Yeah.

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Well, he was a kid at the time.

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Yeah.

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What are you going to do?

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This guy's a mere babe in the eyes of the Lord.

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It was weird, that story where Jesus threw a plunger, threw a kid's back.

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That was great.

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He was trying to break the record, which at the time was zero because plungers didn't

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exist.

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That's in the book of Tobit.

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So this isn't done.

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He did some more television.

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On Guinness World Records Gone Wild, and then America's Got Talent saw me and they emailed

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me and they were like, hey, do you want to come do that on America's Got Talent?

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So I thought, yeah, why not?

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Because I had co-written a book with someone who hired me to write a book and it fell into

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the niche of Howard Stern.

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We thought if we could get the book to Howard Stern, that would help us to get financing

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and maybe we could get on his radio show.

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So in Hollywood, one thing leads to another.

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So I accepted that.

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My friend flew out that I wrote the book with from Pennsylvania.

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We were on America's Got Talent.

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I gave Howard Stern a copy of my book or our book, and then I threw a plunge and I failed

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miserably.

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Oh my God.

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It was interesting.

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It was all part of that crazy journey in Hollywood.

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Okay, but.

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That's the right response.

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Yeah.

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Uh.

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Oh, no.

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Oh, no.

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So I had you on to talk about, um, I suppose-

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Your whistleblowing of Department of Defense stuff?

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I guess JFK.

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I would say-

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9-11 was your buddies and you throw plungers now?

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I would say the larger part of this show is him talking about his show Biz Ambitions.

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It has very little to do with him blowing any whistles or really even talking about

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any specific thing he learned at the Department of Defense.

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What is he even doing?

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He's trying to get funding for his fucking movie.

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Oh, that's his goal.

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This is his-

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Oh, God.

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Oh, man.

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We'll get to that in a little bit.

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Oh, Farnsworth.

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Come on.

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Farnum.

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P.T.

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Farnum.

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So this Ronald, bad Ronald, this dude.

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So I don't know how to talk about this because it would seem to be shitting on a group unnecessarily.

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But they go on about a-

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Messiahs or actors or-

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They go on a bit of a tangent about how he was homeless for a bit.

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And I feel like because we're making fun of him, it might lead us down a road where we're

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making fun of homeless people unnecessarily and I'm uncomfortable with that.

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I don't think that's what we do.

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I know we don't, but I want to be sensitive and not mock him for being homeless.

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And in fact, if he were homeless insisting that he was the Messiah, I would have far

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more empathy for him than I do now that I know he is not homeless and still insisting

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he's the Messiah.

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And the other thing is that you'd have to listen to this entire long chunk of the show

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for me to really make the point to you that at no point does he actually describe being

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homeless.

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He talks about living in a friend's kitchen for a little while, which is not ideal circumstances,

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but it's something that a struggling actor might do.

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My point is that I don't want to make fun of him for being homeless, but I do want to

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make fun of him for what he says in this next clip.

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I was shooting on some TV show and I met a guy who was working as a bartender behind

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me on the TV show and I was like, man, it's costing me so much in catering for my stuff,

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my movie.

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And he's like, I'm a caterer.

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So I hired him to cater for me and then he let me move into his garage for like $4.50

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a month.

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But I only stayed there for a month.

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It was in East LA and I just didn't feel welcome in East LA.

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Wait, wait, wait.

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What just happened there?

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He's a racist.

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How do you throw that on top of everything?

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God, you're a shit messiah.

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The messiah does not like traditionally Hispanic parts of town.

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This is a bad messiah.

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Yeah, it's not great.

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This is a shit messiah.

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I'm pissed.

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I would like a better messiah.

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Yeah.

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Can we do a redo on this one?

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So that's when he ends up moving.

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It's like when you try to do the capture and you get it wrong the first time.

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You just reshuffle, man.

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Give it another go.

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I didn't want to live in East LA, so I chose to...

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Become God?

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I guess.

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So that's a bummer.

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Yeah.

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That's a bummer for the course now that we have Eddie Page and the Project Camelot world.

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Not too surprising to see one of these guys express discomfort with minorities.

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Who would've guessed?

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Yeah.

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So in this...

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Jordan, boy, we've already reached it.

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We have reached the solution.

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Okay, cool.

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This clip...

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After the racist part, though, now I feel like he's going to call it the final solution

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and I have problems with that.

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It's not.

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It's just...

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This clip starts with him saying, I was looking into the solution.

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Got it.

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There's not much before it that helps make it make sense.

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9-11.

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No.

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Okay.

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9-11's not involved.

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Jordan?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So this guy is saying that he's the Messiah and that he was an extra and he's trying to

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make this autobiographical movie about someone who's written a sequel to the Bible.

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That still wouldn't be enough for me to do this episode.

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That would be like, maybe that's a minisode or something like that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We've had messiahs before.

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But then he gets to the solution.

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Okay.

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Man, oh man.

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This is bad.

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I mean, not bad.

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When I say bad, it always sounds like it's going to be monstrous.

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I just mean this is dumb.

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This is really, really...

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It's just a bad solution.

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It's a bad plan.

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Okay.

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I've been looking for the solution, developing the solution, writing it down.

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There's three different parts to it.

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Throw plungers at him!

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One of the things that's a part of it is the promissory note.

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And so before I ran into Michael Kellinger's video about the promissory note, I started

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looking at how to accept for value bills because I had been doing research about how our body

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is really our vessel that carries our soul around, but the US of A corporation has turned

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everybody into a bonded commodity and we have an account that we can use and we can accept

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for value debts and things like that.

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So I was looking at trying to bring down the government and say, we need to get rid of

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the federal reserves system and the savior.

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So he's a sovereign citizen on top of everything else?

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The Messiah is a sovereign citizen.

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What?

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Yeah.

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Hold on, hold on.

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It gets so much worse.

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Okay.

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All right.

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The promissory note.

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We need to be able to accept for value all of our stuff.

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And I was putting that into my reality show and I was writing that into scripts and as

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part of books and things like that.

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So then I came across Michael Tellinger and his concept of the promissory note where he

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could pay off of his mortgage by making his own promissory note.

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And what I learned from doing the research based on that video was that the federal reserve

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is a corporation and the United States of America is a corporation.

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And the United States, which is not the United States of America, but the United States is

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a series of countries that we all call states.

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So you've got the United States of America corporations is, has a deal with the federal

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reserve corporation to force us to use the federal reserve corporations promissory notes

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and that they're not dollar bill.

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I mean we call them dollar bills, you know, what every country that uses the reserve notes

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calls them whatever their currency is, but really they're promissory notes.

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This is the Messiah we deserve though, right?

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So being I'm a corporation, you're a corporation, all of the people list name, everybody's corporations

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unless you remove yourself from that whole situation, right?

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As corporations write your own promissory note, autograph it because I've learned also

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you don't want to sign things.

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You want to autograph it so you autograph it, your value to the bank, the bank did

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it has to accept it or they're committing the felony of misconduct in public office.

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That sounds right.

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In the law and maritime law thing, there it is acceptance and conditional acceptance.

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So if you make an offer to a judge, let's say the judge is honorable in court because

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they are answering, they're accepting or conditionally accepting your offers.

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Sure.

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It's bargaining.

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It's a bargain.

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It's bargaining with you and their crank kangaroo port.

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So I started submitting a promissory notes, the banks that I had credit with, or how did

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it go?

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And I even started creating, um, debts that I had to pay so I could submit the promissory

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note.

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Bad plan.

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And I had an account with the space coast credit union here in Florida.

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I want to be real quick.

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This is very bad at articulating.

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It's not space ghost credit unit.

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Hey, it's crazy, but Kentucky shark has always been there.

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Dan.

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A shark on whiskey is mighty risky.

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A shark on beer is a beer engineer.

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It's still nuts.

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How's Molotov doing?

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Is he doing all right?

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It's still nuts that there's, there is a place I looked this up called the space coast credit

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union.

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Right.

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That is clearly who he, uh, is defaulting on loans to get to it at the end of this clip.

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I don't know where this is going.

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There's another minute left because it's the solution.

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Okay.

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You got to see how it plays out for it.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So I decided to write a $2 million promissory note based coast credit union for them to

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accept for value and deposit.

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Now if I was committing fraud and, and this was something that was punishable that I was

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doing and was fraudulent and I didn't have this per, you know, I put together a nice

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template.

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I figured it out.

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If I was committing fraud, then they would come knocking on my door and I would face

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charges, charges of fraud, promissory note to the credit union.

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And they dishonored it and they shut my account.

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The chief financial officer resigned to me and then I called the state attorney general

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of Florida, Pam Bondi, who just met with Donald Trump when he came to McDill Air Force base

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recently and gave a speech, you know, one of his speeches because he's on the reelection

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campaign.

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And I call, I emailed Pam Bondi and I told her, listen, the space coast credit union

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is committing misconduct in public office coast to coast.

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They haven't accepted my promissory note.

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They shut my account down.

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The chief financial officer resigned.

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How'd that go?

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I want you to take care of this.

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This is an issue.

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This could free all living souls from financial slavery because we could all, you know, tender

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our promissory note to the bank.

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They would deposit the numbers into our account.

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We would have for $2 million and then we could go spend federal reserve notes on the street.

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Coast to coast.

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And she emailed me back and she said, I refuse to discuss promissory notes with you.

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And I even sent her the, if I had been committing a crime and this was fraud, somebody would

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have come to my door and say, you know, you're, you're under arrest for fraud.

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So that's the solution.

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Everybody write $2 million promissory notes, autograph them, don't sign them.

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Don't you dare sign them.

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Give them to the bank and they'll put the numbers in your, I love that his end solution

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is still, we get federal reserve notes.

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I don't know what this, okay.

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I think this is the first time that we've legitimately had Carrie, uh, bring somebody

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on her show so she could laugh at how stupid they are.

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I think she's having a good time.

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I think she started having a fun time.

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Once we got into sovereign citizenship, she's like, sweet.

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I don't have to deal with raptors or anybody talking shit about me.

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I can just dunk on this idiot.

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I don't think she, I don't think she does any, uh, real dunking per se, but yeah, she's

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by her silence, she has been dunking.

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It speaks volumes.

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Yeah.

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So, so how's he doing?

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I didn't get that 2 million.

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I'll tell you that right now.

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No, the CFO resigned over it though.

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That's because the CFO went to the CEO and he was like, Hey, I don't know if you've read

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maritime law, but we got to honor this.

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The Messiah is on the CEO is like, we can't be given out $2 million loans and then everybody's

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going to find out the promissory notes are real.

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What we got to do is we got to get the attorney general on the case, Pam Bondi, don't you

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dare talk to him about promissory notes.

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And then you got to fucking resign.

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So the reason that this isn't, the reason this isn't a crime is because there's nothing

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being done.

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You know, like if he was trying to do this with a, like the crime that will end up catching

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up with him is the money he still owes.

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Yeah.

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Usually that comes back to the idea that he's saying the bank, I have written a fake check

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for $2 million.

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They can just throw that in the trash.

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That's not really a crime.

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It is a crime.

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If they accept it and then you start to use that money, then it's fraud, which is currently,

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it's just dumb.

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Which kind of brings us to our next clip because that's what Sean David Morton did to the government.

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We talked about it on a recent episode.

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Sean David Morton is a devout con man and frequent project Camelot guest who misreported

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his income and what would it be, deductions from his taxes in order to get millions of

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dollars from the government because until they look over it, sometimes things slip through

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the cracks.

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So you could fill out a completely fraudulent tax return and there's a decent chance it

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might go through and you might get a giant check.

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Yeah.

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For like maybe three to five years, we've got to, we've got to, and they just fucking

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system and they just depleted the IRS's staff.

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So you might get away with it for a long fucking time.

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Yeah.

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Who knows?

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And that's why the sort of, so our advice to everybody listening is defraud the government

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as much.

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Wait, no, that's not our advice.

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But that's why like audits are scary is because, yeah, because some people will misreport stuff

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and then it's important that you report accurately because when the audit may come, if they find

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something like that, you are fucked.

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Yeah.

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They're going to be mad to the clink.

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They're going to be mad.

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Yeah.

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Because generally speaking, those sorts of errors, especially when they're for large

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sums of money, are not accidents.

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They're intentional defrauding of the government, which is what Sean David Morton is now in

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prison for.

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Yeah.

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Now, interestingly, political prisoner, Dan, they don't have the authority to do that.

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So again, the reason that that's fraud and what Ronald did is not fraud is because he

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didn't get any money from it.

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It didn't successfully go through.

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Otherwise, only because of the banks not going along with it and closing his account is he

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not committing fraud.

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The attempt is there.

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Yeah.

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But.

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And I mean, I guess technically, can you do something for attempted fraud?

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I guess if there's malicious, repeated attempted frauds, they can come at you.

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Maybe.

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But it's such a low...

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Otherwise, yeah.

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It'd be like...

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Such a minor thing.

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They give him like 30 days or something like that and a fine of $200.

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And I imagine anybody at that bank feels like they just laugh or they feel bad for him.

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One of the two.

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It's what's the use in prosecuting.

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Yeah.

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But that distinction is really important to make because now Carrie is going to be like,

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I need to tell you, you should be careful with that because Sean David Morton is in

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prison.

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Carrie has given up financial advice after she gave some dude like 30 grand herself and

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got frauded over it.

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I think it was more than that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Not...

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She's not against the plan.

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She just thinks...

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That's an issue.

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That's an issue for me.

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She just thinks that doing it opens you up to the government jamming you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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A little bit, Dan.

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In this next clip, she very much misrepresents what Sean David Morton did.

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You're doing this now and you filed these, I don't know, whatever you want to call it,

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promissory notes.

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And he literally got thrown in jail for kind of a similar thing in a way.

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Exactly the same thing.

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One of the strikes against him, whatever you call that, is that he and his wife...

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Because what is the charge about the IRS and what a sham that is.

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And he wrote a check based on his value or whatever it is.

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I don't quite get it, but you know, for a certain amount of money.

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And they accepted it, believe it or not, as payment for his taxes.

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And then they turned around and said he...

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I mean, they literally gave him the money.

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He filed for money they owed him or something and they paid him.

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And then they turned around and said, no, they made a mistake and he was responsible

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for their mistake.

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And so they put certain counts against him.

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It was a really twisted logic.

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No, no, no.

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It does not take a twisting of logic for you to be like, oh yeah, you lied to us.

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That money isn't real.

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And then you took our money.

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So it's not, we made a mistake on our end.

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It's that the mistake was you are allowed to do that ever.

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No, I mean, it was a mistake in terms of being an oversight, but it's not like we bungled

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this honest transaction and now we're punishing you for it.

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You committed fraud.

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We didn't catch it the first time around, but then we looked back at the books and we're

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like, hey, give us that $12 million back.

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He took $12 million.

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Something like that.

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I don't know exactly, but yeah, he defrauded a lot.

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Every time, every time these guys get good, look, if you're going to defraud the government,

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even the government's like, we're fine with it.

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If it's like a little bit, I would imagine.

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I mean, you know, you just got to think about, you got to think about real resource allocation.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I'm not sure.

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But what I am sure about is this guy isn't making another movie.

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Ronald is making another movie.

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Yeah.

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And did he just take out a loan?

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We get in.

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Nope.

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He has a go fund me page.

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How's that?

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How's that doing?

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We'll get into it in a little bit.

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Should everybody sign him a promissory note?

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Maybe.

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So Kerry wants to know what his new movie is about.

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And in revealing the plot of the movie, we find out that not only does he think he's

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the savior, not only is he a sovereign citizen, he might be another category of cat that we've

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talked all that much about.

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Do you mean genius?

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Yes.

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In terms of your making this movie, what do you call the movie again?

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The one I'm writing now, I'm about to finish a movie, I've got about three more scenes

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to shoot.

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That's called Horror Scope.

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And there's a message behind that.

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And the one I'm doing now that I'm writing now is The Lines of Destiny.

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And eventually those bloodline members attempt to escape the Antarctic ice wall to get out

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of the earth building.

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He's a flat earther.

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And then they want to try and escape the holographic matrix that we're in to face the archons and

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to find out who the architect of the hologram is.

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He's got it all.

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He's a fucking unicorn.

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Well, so that's kind of an interesting concept in itself.

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Is it?

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Sweary.

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Sweary, Kerry.

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Come on.

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When you talk about Arctic ice rings, you're talking flat earth, baby.

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Yeah.

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That's fun.

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Jesus.

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So he has a prediction.

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As we know from our last episode, Alex's predictions about everything, and not just our last episode,

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plenty of them.

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He's bad at predictions.

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I would say that Ronald is right up there with him.

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I think we are headed toward what Albert Pike put in his Three World Wars letter.

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Don't do that.

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We're in the middle of the global war on terror, which I think is about to end, and it's going

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to leave the entire world hopeless and poverty stricken and fearful and not in a position

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where they even know what to do, where they're going to, what they want us to do, according

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to what Albert Pike wrote, is turn toward the Luciferian doctrine.

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We're going to need a Messiah.

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Trump is setting the stage now, and Reagan said it before, for him, is that we're preparing,

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I think, for a fake alien invasion after this whole, I don't know if they're going to have

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this global war on terror blow up so much that it turns into a small nuclear war, but

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there are those.

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The Georgia Guidestones are out there, and the first commandment is to maintain a population

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under 500 million.

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The Georgia Guidestones are out there, but this guy is out there.

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This guy is really drawn from the whole book, man.

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If anybody is ready to write a sequel to the Bible filled with as much bullshit as you

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can cram into one book, I'll be goddamned if it isn't this cat.

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I will say that this is the problem with people having free access to the internet, is that

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he's read every conspiracy site, and he's like, yeah, that's all real.

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Also, I used to work for the DOD.

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Let me Google what the DOD fort was that I should be at.

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Oh, I'll memorize that.

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Oh, what?

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General Zinni.

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Oh, there.

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All right.

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That's putting my data banks.

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Real close to saying General Zod.

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Yeah.

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So, the thing is, I don't want to unpack the idea of this fake alien invasion.

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It's something that, I mean, Alex has even suggested that that's a possibility in order

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to bring the world together in a new one-world government.

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We have to unify against this alien menace.

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The only way human beings really unite is whenever there's a common enemy.

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Well, now, him bringing this up on Project Camelot is kind of problematic because Carrie

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believes that aliens are already here.

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Well, that's why you would have to be a fake alien invasion.

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Well, see, here's Carrie's take on it.

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And I would say that in terms of the alien invasion, well, it's going to be a little

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difficult because, you know, I always say that it's kind of hard to conduct a fake alien

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invasion when you've got a real one going on.

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So.

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Booyah.

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Ah.

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Booyah done.

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So that's the...

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We're going to end this with like a trio of close to dunks on Carrie's part.

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That was the first one.

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That was like, hey, you know, my whole thing is about that there's aliens already all over

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the place and they're maybe eating people for chocolate.

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And all the times that you see, like maybe the Parkland shooting was really just covering

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up people in South Carolina who were eaten by aliens because a wormhole opened.

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Of course.

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Yeah.

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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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You know all that stuff.

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You're trying to come to me and say that there's a fake alien invasion.

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That's going to be tough.

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Right.

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Now.

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Quick thinking on my feet, Jordan.

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I'm saying right back to her.

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That's why it's so easy to stage a fake alien invasion.

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Aliens would be in on it.

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We've already got them here.

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Right.

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It wouldn't even take, it would take like a couple of phone calls and then we've got

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an alien invasion, even though they've been living amongst us safely and unsafely for

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eons.

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Is this the raptor princess?

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Yes.

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What up?

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We need you to fake an invasion.

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I got it covered.

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Give me chocolate.

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So at this point, Ronald, they...

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I assume he doesn't come back with that response.

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No.

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Okay.

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That sort of is a, they have reached an impasse in terms of that line of rhetoric.

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Can raptors throw plungers?

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I ask you that question, sweary-carey.

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Not with those little arms.

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They're bad baseball players.

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We know that.

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So because that sort of was a dead end, now Ronald's going to get back to his plan, his

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solution, which is just sovereign citizen bullshit about how you can get unlimited money

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if you give people promissory notes.

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Of course.

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And so he has a way, like it's not just that there's going to be money for everybody and

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we're going to be free of the evil central banks.

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No, no, no.

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There's much more to this.

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There's more to it.

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And once the promissory note is accepted for value, then there's no reason for most of

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the crimes that people are incarcerated for.

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I want to also say really quick that this is a good argument for universal basic income.

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But let's not muddy the waters with that sort of reasonable thinking.

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Nobody's going to go out and rob because they don't have to, because they have their wealth.

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They're not going to have to go sell themselves or sell drugs.

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Well, I mean, technically they are still if there's a promissory note.

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There's a plot to actually make sure that something like this never happens, obviously.

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They are afraid of us in numbers, they are afraid of us in numbers.

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That is true, but I'm not so sure that a promissory note is really going to solve it.

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Okay.

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You know, whatever.

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Oh shit motherfucker!

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She even ended it with whatever.

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God, I am liking this Kerry.

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It's still not great.

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So we have spent so much time with the most credible woman in the world.

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And to hear her credible, credulous, credulous.

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I apologize.

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Yeah.

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No, complete, complete opposite, complete opposite.

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But to hear this level of I know you're dumb and I don't think you know, you're dumb from

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her.

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That's fantastic.

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It's kind of nice.

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I love it.

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So it's a delight.

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And so he wants to get funding for his movie, so he promotes his GoFundMe page on the show.

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And now is the time in the episode where I would like you, Jordan, to guess how much

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is he making on his GoFundMe page?

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How much is he asking for?

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$100,000 and he's been on Project Camelot.

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This came out like a week ago or so.

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And the GoFundMe page was created on August 6th, 2018, so it's been about a month that

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it's been up.

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It's been about a month.

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$100,000, the Messiah making a new movie with the help of someone who gets at least in the

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tens of thousands of views on all of her videos.

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How much do you think that he has made on this GoFundMe page that I am looking at right

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now?

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I am going to go with $65.

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Zero.

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That's a kick to the pants.

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That's not great.

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That's not great.

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The info wagon did better.

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This is tragic.

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Wow.

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I don't think he's doing well.

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It's a bummer.

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I don't think he's doing well.

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It really is a bummer.

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I think he's struggling.

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So he is offering people, though, when they come to his website or they email him, he

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will send them this promissory note template that he's come up with so they can get $2

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million by sending it to a bank.

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And he also says, please show it to your lawyer, show it to your banker, see if they can find

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any problems with it.

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They can and will.

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They can.

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It will be very easy for them.

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But you know that sort of old salesman trick?

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Not only that, but he's not only offering a promissory note, he's offering you the path

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to freedom.

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Oh, okay.

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That's good.

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He's offering this, the promissory notes, the path to freedom, which is a document from

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the Sovereignty Education Defense Ministry that has the steps where you can remove yourself

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from the jurisdiction of the state so you never have to pay taxes, you don't have to

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have a driver's license, you don't have to have a social security number.

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Okay.

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Well, now before you do that, can I ask you, how are you going to raise money for a film

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and not have any of those things?

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Well I'm in this system and I have to use Federal Reserve notes.

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I have no choice.

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I'm working to effect a change and I'm working for these promissory notes to be accepted

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and I'm working to get people to withdraw from the government and when we all start

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working together en masse, then yes, I won't have to live off the Federal Reserve note.

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But right now, I have to.

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So I have no choice.

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I mean, I don't feel hypocritical about it because I have to do what I have to do.

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I've lived on the street before and I'm not afraid to be uncomfortable.

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So like, hey man, if you're preaching everyone a divorce themselves from the government,

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it'll set you free and you haven't done it, I got to give you a pass.

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I'm like, not a pass.

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I got to give you a hard pass.

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I was going to say, no, sir.

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You are...

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Bye.

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Yeah.

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Bye-bye, sir.

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If you don't have the faith in your own advice to take it and you've already done the promissory

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note, then you know that fucking doesn't work.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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CFOs resign over it.

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It's ludicrous.

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I love that Carrie is like, she does bring that point up, which is, again, it's nice

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on her part.

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So towards the end of the episode, Carrie does something that she does quite a bit and

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she tries to go to the audience because she's live streaming again.

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And so she tries to go to the people in the chat to get questions for this guy.

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It does not go well.

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A lot of nonsense.

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They ask him about like, do you think it's a good idea to raise your vibration?

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He gives a rambling answer that was meaningless.

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But it leads to this, which I think points out rank hypocrisy in Carrie Cassidy and also

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reinforcement of her sweary Carrie nickname.

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All right, so there's a lot of nonsense going on in the chat, I'm sad to say.

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And so I'm basically banning a bunch of people.

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So if you're acting like an asshole on the chat, just be prepared because I'm getting

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rid of you.

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So don't come back.

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I told you I was going to bring out the trolls, didn't I?

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Yeah, like don't come back, okay, because we don't want you and go elsewhere.

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And that goes for the CIA trolls, the paid trolls, et cetera.

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And the loonies out there that just want to say stupid shit because they're like, how

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dare you?

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All right, so.

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Hey Carrie, why are you banning people for speech you don't agree with?

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Carrie.

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All these people.

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It seems like there's some sort of, I want to say like something like that, that she

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just did with no compunctions or guilt or self-reflection whatsoever may have occurred

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like to her recently, that she politicized and perhaps made a central, hmm.

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You know, it's kind of like you set up rules in your private space online, like when you're

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doing a show or something like that, people don't abide by it, then you're free to kick

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them out.

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Much like businesses are free to do.

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I don't understand, Dan.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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Set the rules.

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Follow them.

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First amendment.

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Dumb people.

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CIA shills coming and talking shit.

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So stupid.

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Get them, sweary Carrie.

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So stupid.

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Dumb asshole.

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So stupid.

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Brings us to the end of.

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All these people are stupid, Dan.

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I know.

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That's why we talk about them.

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Brings us to the end of our journey with the Messiah, which is a great Joe Satriani album,

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followed up surfing with the alien, our time with the Messiah.

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How, how's he, how's he doing?

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Joe Satriani?

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No, our Messiah.

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Is he doing all right?

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He didn't make it.

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He hasn't gotten any donations to his GoFundMe.

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I bet he's pretty mad.

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I bet he's gotten a lot of promissory notes.

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Oh, so many.

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That's probably the problem with his.

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Yeah.

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Do you think GoFundMe takes promissory notes?

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Don't think so.

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Wouldn't he have just been able to give a promissory note to GoFundMe and have them

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then put the.

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No, GoFundMe is not a bank.

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You have to go to the banks.

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Oh, okay.

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Right.

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Because they're the ones who were involved with being in dishonor with maritime law or

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something or other.

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Oh, man.

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If he turns out to be the Messiah, I'm going to be so bummed.

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I feel like the odds aren't great.

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They're not good so far.

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So Jordan, we are now at the end of this journey.

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Jesus' GoFundMe didn't do well either.

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He got killed for 40 silver pieces.

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He could have just written Judas a fucking promissory note.

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Do you know the thing, too, is that saviors in the past have not been so concerned.

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Usually they're like, hey, maybe you guys don't do away with the earthly goods and shit.

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Overturning things in temples and give to Caesar what Caesar seems kind of chill about

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money for the most part.

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Anyway, I don't care.

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This has been fun, but we have a website.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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You should check that out.

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Could you follow us on Twitter somehow?

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We can.

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You can.

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We can also.

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It's knowledge underscore fight.

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How about Facebook?

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We're on Facebook.

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Do we have like a group for people to go to where they post fun, cool stuff?

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Yep.

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It's called Go Home, Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.

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That's really where most of the action is.

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We're bad at social media.

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So if you like the show and you want to engage.

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One of us is completely off social media.

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Yeah.

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So if you want to engage with listeners and I'm on there a little bit, please go to Go

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Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant on Facebook.

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And if you want to listen to the podcast, find us on iTunes or some shit like that.

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You can probably find us.

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It's cool if you tell people about us because people like to tell other people about stuff.

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Yep.

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That helps.

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So Jordan, we'll be back with our next episode, which will be back to Alex Jones' territory.

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And even though he wasn't on this episode, it's really important that everybody out there

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remember that Alex Jones probably killed a dude.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.