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Latest revision as of 22:30, 1 March 2025

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan!
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Indeed we are, Dan. Dan?
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Sir.
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Uh, were we not doing this bit anymore?
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Nope.
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I feel like we quit this bit.
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Nope.
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Uh, how do we explain the podcast now?
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Someone were asking us what a bit that has run its course is.
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I would tell them it would be us rambling around a bunch and then eventually getting to the point that I know a lot about Alex Jones.
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And I know less than you about Alex Jones.
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Correct.
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There we go.
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Um, so Jordan-
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Now we're doing it.
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Here we are in the world, I don't know how to start this episode.
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Oh boy.
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I just feel weird, I ate some McDonald's just a minute ago and it's making me feel very strange.
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That's a terrible idea.
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I was running late getting home from an appointment to do this show and I needed some food because I was in a rush and I didn't have anything to cook in the house.
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I was feeling weak from not eating and then I go get this McDonald's and now I feel worse.
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Yeah, no, that was a terrible idea.
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I feel destroyed and I don't know how to get the ball moving in the right direction.
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I was trying to say moving and rolling at the same time almost said bowling.
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You gotta sweat it out.
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We gotta get you to do some wind sprints.
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You gotta get that salt out of your belly.
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Holy shit.
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That's why I haven't even eaten yet today.
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I'm always-
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That's why.
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I'm hungry for the good show, Dan.
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Indeed.
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Well, I hope I can provide that for you.
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My fingers are crossed that that will be the end result of this.
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Your greasy McDonald's covered fingers are crossed.
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Something I'm less concerned about being great is one of our new donors.
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Wonderful.
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Not a new donor per se, someone who's taken their donation, bumped it up a little bit.
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Oh shit!
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We appreciate it so much.
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So Jason C., thank you so much.
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You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Four stars.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little, little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much, Jason.
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Thank you very much, Jason.
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If you would like to support the show yourself, you can do that by going to our website knowledgefight.com and click the support the show button.
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We appreciate it.
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And it's great.
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We haven't heard a, we haven't heard a technocrat level clip in a long time.
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It's been a lot of wonks.
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It's been a while.
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We've had some, we've had some great wonks, but the technocrat, man, that is hot.
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Nice to have it make a resurgence.
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Yeah.
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Um, so Jordan, on our last episode, we talked about, um, uh, yeah, hard to distill exactly what that was of, uh, you know, uh, almost clear evidence of, um, advance notice on Alex Jones's part.
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Yeah, I know.
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It's pretty funny, right?
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Pretty clear notice or, or, you know, indications that Roger Stone knows a lot more than he's being forthright about.
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It was great timing, especially since immediately after that, we got the single greatest example of a president being like, eh, these guys are great.
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He don't even worry about it.
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Don't even worry about it.
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It's good stuff.
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He had the wrong word on the page.
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It's the wrong word.
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Just didn't method.
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Would be, wouldn't be.
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It's a mistake anybody could make.
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Very easy to make.
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Right.
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Right, right, right.
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Don't be the grammar police coming down on this guy.
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Oh yeah, that's rude.
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That's rude.
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That's, that's classic.
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Oh yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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No, no, no, no.
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He's, he's probably committed a bunch of crimes.
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The world is not fun.
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Yeah.
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Um, and so today I thought what we would do is take a little diversion down to one of our favorite side paths.
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And unfortunately it's not Project Camelot because Carrie, Swery Carrie Cassidy was just recently in London, I believe, or in England.
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Indicted for meeting, what, Tommy Robinson or something?
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That would be fucked up.
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That would be fucked up.
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Um, no, she, she was doing her Awake and Aware conference, which, no one needs to know this, but if you knew it, you'd know that that was just a conference of weirdos that may or may not be lying about being in the secret space program.
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Or even awake.
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Here's the fun part.
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On our last episode with Project Camelot, we talked about how Eddie Page was clearly a racist alien.
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Oh yeah, absolutely.
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And guess what?
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He showed up at the Awake and Aware conference.
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What?
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She confronted him about his racism on air and he's like, yeah, but you know what, you know, what, uh, reality is sometimes racist.
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Sometimes reality is racist.
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And then a week later she has him on her conference.
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Perfect.
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Perfect.
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Nothing matters.
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Nothing means anything.
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So I listened to a bit of that and I was like, ah, damn it, Eddie Page, this is so boring.
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So I just decided, nah, we're not going to do that.
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But thankfully I found something very interesting in the world of Jim Bakker, uh, that deserves going over.
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So today we're taking a little trip down to Pleasant Valley or whatever the fuck he calls his, uh, his commune down in the Ozarks.
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Uh, and we, we start the show with something very big.
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Welcome to the Jim Bakker show coming to you from the village of Morningside snuggled in the beautiful Ozark mountains.
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Today, Jim's very special guest is the founder and president of Intag Miniatures and host of the television broadcast End of the Age, Dr. Ervin Baxter.
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I'm your cohost, Ricky Bakker, and now you're the host of the Jim Bakker show and my parents, Jim and Laurie Bakker.
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That's how old so is he?
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Thank you, Ricky Bakker.
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What? They all take shifts? What is this shit?
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They're all there.
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Why are you coming down on Tammy Sue Bakker not being there? This is the brother's turn.
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What are you talking about?
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No, that blew my mind.
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How old are these people?
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Uh, they're adults.
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They're adults.
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Hard to say with these, uh, evangelical Christians.
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Yeah, that's a good point.
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Cause I could put Jim Bakker at 60 as well as I could put him at 85.
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He could be, uh, 104.
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There's a, there's a lot of wiggle room there.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Um, so the, uh, the fun, the fun thing there.
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I'm gonna go with, I thought Tammy Sue did a better job.
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I don't want to start any kind of sibling rivalry or anything like that.
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She had a little more...
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Tammy Sue crushed it.
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She had a little more charisma, I would say.
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She had some, she had some verve.
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She had some, uh, she had some fire behind her.
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Joie Devine.
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Yeah.
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Um, I just like how, uh, Jim Bakker's response is, thank you, Ricky Bakker.
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Like he says his kid's full name.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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That's fucked up.
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Well, they don't really have a relationship.
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Very unfamiliar.
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How could you have a relationship with Jim Bakker?
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It would be tough. It would be tough.
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It has to be so transactional.
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Like everything that they do for Jim has to be like a...
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Dad, play catch with me.
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How is this gonna help me sell buckets?
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Right, right, right, right.
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It's gonna cost you one year's worth of food to get one game's worth of catch.
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Very, very wild stuff.
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So, what do you know about Irvin Baxter?
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I know that if you are an actual doctor, you should not be anywhere near this show.
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I got some thoughts about him being a doctor.
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Yes.
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And they are all, no.
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Well, I mean, I don't know how much I want to give away just right off the top,
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but I will say that Irvin Baxter has no formal education.
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That usually hurts your chances of being a real doctor.
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From an article about him in the Dallas Observer.
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He's largely self-taught.
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He finished high school but never attended college or seminary.
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But since age 20 or so, he's been developing and preaching his particular version of the End Times,
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in which this massive war will kill a third of humanity,
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and Jesus Christ will return to whisk his followers heavenward after vanquishing the Antichrist.
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So, did he get a Ph.D. in that?
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I think he's read a few books.
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Is he like a doctor of theology?
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There are plenty of different ways to go down to get the doctor title.
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You could do the doctor group path.
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You could do the doctor group.
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He should just mail Sri Lanka his plans for the End Times and then they'd send him a diploma.
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But you know, being a doctor of theology, you have to go to school for years for that.
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No, I know. That's what I'm saying.
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Granted, you could just get it from a diploma mill.
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I didn't do enough.
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Let's face it.
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If you believe in this shit, every mill is a diploma mill.
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I didn't do enough.
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I didn't do a background check on this guy or anything, but I will say that this article...
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I bet there's some domestic abuse in there.
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Hey man, don't say such things.
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You're just guessing.
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I'm just saying that these guys have a pattern of behavior.
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That's all I'm saying.
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He's got a pattern of behavior, but I'm not sure that's what it is.
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He definitely fits a very important pattern.
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Spoiler alert, he's a con man.
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But also, there's other things that are like, oh man.
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Spoiler alert, it's Eddie Page in a mask.
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It might as well be.
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No, I don't know if this guy's racist.
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At least he controls it while he's on Chip Baker's show.
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He's there.
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He's there.
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So like I said, he is an End Times guy.
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So let's just jump in.
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The two of them should hit it off famously.
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We are in the End Times.
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Yes.
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Is that right, Dr. Baxter?
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Not a doctor.
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We don't just say we're maybe the End Time or the End Time is coming.
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The End Time has arrived.
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We are in the middle of it right now.
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Let's thank God.
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Wait, that's just what Jim said.
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You have to go to the End Times to get to the Rapture and get to all the great stuff that's coming.
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It's excitable.
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And we're there.
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Right.
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We are there.
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Wow.
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You know what you know that you know and you know and you don't get changed very often, right?
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Is that how he became a doctor?
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We find out, well, that's a little different slant.
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But when you know from the Word.
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You know, when you base what you're teaching on the Bible, you know it's right.
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Fair, fair.
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I'm going to pause you right there.
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To use your now famous catch phrase, I reject your premise, sir.
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Well, I mean, the first thing we could take away beyond your rejection of premise is these are both two post-Trib rapture guys.
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Yeah.
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Very clearly from what they're saying.
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Oh, yeah.
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If they weren't, then they would have to then admit that they should have been raptured and weren't and are now...
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Oh, that would be a possibility.
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Or there is mid-Trib rapture and we just haven't gotten to the halfway point yet.
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Sure.
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So there's some people who believe that.
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Sure.
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There's mid-Trib.
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Also here, again, this is from that article in the Dallas Observer. This is me editorializing before I get to the quote.
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Okay.
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Seems like this guy's a little nutty.
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Okay.
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Quote, when he was 19, he said he heard a sermon that left him with such a hunger for knowledge that he read the Book of Revelation 19 times in 30 days.
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He quit his job as an internal auditor to become an evangelist.
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He studied and prayed all day and preached at night, delivering a sermon almost daily for eight years.
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Then he was able to identify three modern nations represented by biblical beasts in the Book of Daniel.
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England was the lion, the United States the eagle, and Russia the bear.
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But the fourth eluded him for a time.
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Quote, I woke up one Monday morning and God said, go buy a newspaper.
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Mr. Baxter said, hold on, hold on.
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His evangelical travels found him in a small town in Louisiana and a paper wasn't easy to find.
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But when he read the headline...
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Sure.
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But when he read the headline, he knew he had solved the mystery.
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Quote, on the front page, it said Germany sells leopard tanks to the Netherlands.
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Germany was the leopard.
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Where is he getting this from?
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He's just making it up.
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I mean, just like, I don't recall the Bible.
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I don't recall the Book of Daniel specifically pointing out...
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There's four beasts.
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Lions, bears...
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Oh my.
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Eagles and then...
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Leopards?
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It's a real odd one, especially since I'm gonna go by just the geography I know and how biology works.
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In the Book of Daniel, they would not have had any idea what a leopard was.
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Probably not.
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But also interesting that Germany is not widely associated with leopards.
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It is just one non sequitur that he saw in a newspaper headline.
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So if this is the case, then the writer of the Book of Daniel would have had to know that one day...
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I almost called him Eddie Page.
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One day, Ervin Baxter would be proselytizing in a small town in Louisiana
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and see a headline that involves Germany and leopards
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and prophesied that and put it into the canonical Bible.
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Dan.
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Dan.
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It's possible.
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Did you not hear what Jim just said?
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When you know, you know that you know that you know.
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When you're basing your teachings on the Bible, which clearly he is...
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And that is correct now.
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Daniel prophesied about leopard tanks.
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Sure.
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Must have.
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That makes sense.
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You must have.
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But when he's saying you know, you know, you know, and you know.
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You know, you know, and you know.
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What Jim is saying there is you don't change your predictions much.
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And it's fun because Ervin Baxter fancies himself a bit of a prophet in many ways.
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No, that I don't think so.
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I don't think he's specifically using that to describe Ervin Baxter.
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Yes, he is.
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That is...
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No, that is an evangelical like bulwark.
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No, I understand that.
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Everybody that believes this bullshit always comes down to
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if you start to confront them with like reality.
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I've had my mom and my dad both say, you know,
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the Lord says, you know, when you know when you know.
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I understand that.
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You know.
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But he's also talking about Baxter's predictions.
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Right.
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In that context.
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So he's using that and also bridging it over to his predictions.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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I'm just saying that it's not specific and it's not like he invented it to use now.
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No.
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But I want to talk about Baxter's predictions.
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Okay.
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So let's hear some good ones.
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This is from an article in the Religion News blog.
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Quote, leopards everywhere.
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Ervin Baxter took a deep breath and surveyed the more than 2,500 faithful.
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Then, citing biblical text and current events, he voiced a dire prediction.
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A raging war will soon incinerate a third of the world's population.
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Quote, two billion people will die, said Mr. Baxter,
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whose fiery oration Sunday at Garland connected a Homeland Security measure,
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the Real ID Act, with Satan's plan to enslave humanity.
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Quote, we have either just entered or we are just before the beginning
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of the seven year period that will end in Armageddon, he said.
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This article came out in 2006.
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We have either just entered or we're in the middle, but it could be over the end times.
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That article came out 12 years ago.
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I am going to give you a very specific prediction that it could be and is any time that it is.
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And when you know, you know.
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When you know, you know that you know.
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So at that sermon that he was giving in Garland in Texas,
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Baxter complained that the government was collecting data on citizens.
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But then at the same time, he was trying to get people to fill out the contact cards he left on their seats.
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He explained that away by saying, quote, I mean,
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if we find out the rapture is going to happen in three days, wouldn't you like us to send you a letter?
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Good. Good one.
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That.
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That's pretty smooth.
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I'm actually going to go with that.
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Surprisingly reasonable.
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That's pretty smooth.
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I think I would like a letter.
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I would prefer an email.
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But of course, because.
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But God only does snail mail.
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Because these guys are always con men and they don't stop conning.
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It should be pointed out that the contact information cards he was asking people to fill out were also subscription cards to his magazine.
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This guy's good.
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How much?
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I think it's one of those like we get you for free and then then you get a recurring bill or something like that.
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So it's weird that it's a thirty dollar a month subscription for a four page magazine.
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So he's just I think it's bimonthly.
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So he's a traveling itinerant preacher.
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I don't think anymore.
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Okay.
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I think he's too old for that shit.
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Right.
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But back in these days he's just randomly going around.
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I think he's a lunatic who gets out of town before you realize what's happened.
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Right.
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He's selling monorails.
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Yes.
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That's what he's doing.
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So I want to go a little bit further into the past and talk about what he had to say about the Iraq War.
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His predictions.
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Quote.
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This is from an article in the Washington Post.
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Leopards everywhere.
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Quote Baxter a lifelong student of old and New Testament prophecies said casualties will be tremendous not only of combatants in Iraq but people in neighboring countries hit by retaliatory missiles of mass destruction and Americans who fall victim to terrorists armed with portable nuclear weapons.
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In other and other countries will take the opportunity to pursue their own interests.
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China trying to retake Taiwan or India making an all out assault on Kashmir leading to World War Three he said.
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The result back to Baxter concludes could be nuclear holocaust that takes the lives of two billion people.
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The one third of mankind stated in Revelation.
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He's constantly trying to work that one third.
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It's in the book.
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Yeah.
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It's in the book.
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You got to put you got to put it in there.
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You can't say that he's wrong.
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Also that is not technically a third.
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No I don't think I don't think I count it.
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That article from was from 2003 so far he is incorrect.
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Also in his March April 2013 and Time magazine Baxter reported that quote Iran's nuclear bomb program is complete citing a quote source in the Revolutionary Guards Intelligence Unit way.
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Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.
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Hold on.
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Yeah.
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How did he get a hold of this source.
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I need to know that.
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I don't know.
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I need I need way more information about that claim.
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I unfortunately can't provide that for you.
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I was traveling around preaching the Lord's word telling people about the end times as the Bible tells me to do.
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And I woke up one morning and God said to me fly to Tehran.
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See what happens.
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So I did.
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And I bought a newspaper.
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First off leopards.
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Lot of leopards.
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The second I met a member of the Royal Revolutionary Guard and we just got to talk and we hit it off.
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I explained to him how the end times work.
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And he was like dude you have no idea how great the end times is going to be.
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We're going to start it.
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Perfect.
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I have two two possible options.
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One he's making it up.
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Which is the most likely.
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Most likely.
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Or he's citing without citing some sort of Republican real crazy right wing blog or something like that.
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That's my guess.
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And they're making it up and he is poorly reporting it.
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So but anyway look dude.
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I mean so his predictions aren't good.
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We can we can say that with just a cursory glance.
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At some of his history.
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Right.
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We can see that yes his prediction doesn't change but it changes.
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You know like it's always a third of humanity.
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Yeah.
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But the context seems to change and he's wrong about almost everything.
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You've got to update it.
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You can't do the same material for more than three years if you're going to be an itinerant preacher.
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He's really just changing the setup though.
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The punchline is the same.
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Well yeah but the setup is bad.
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Bad showmanship.
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It's still OK.
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So you might be thinking that he's calling this is going to be the end of the world because he says end times.
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Yeah.
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But you'd be wrong in that.
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And this is actually I think a really important reveal that they kind of tip their hand here a little bit.
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Yeah.
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Doesn't it start the thousand year reign of God and so on and so forth.
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We can discuss that on the other end of this clip because I think they make it clear what they're interested in much more in this.
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What is end time ministry?
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Well a lot of people think end time.
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When's the world going to end?
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I have people when they ask me.
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What do you do?
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I say well I'm the founder and president of End Time Ministries.
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They back up three steps and say when's the world going to end?
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And I say no it's not that.
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When we say end time we do not mean the end of the world because there's another thousand years left according to scripture.
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Called it.
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We mean the end of the time of human government and the beginning of the kingdom of God because the Bible is explicit.
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That all of our present governments are coming down.
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The Bible says in Daniel 7 9 I beheld that the thrones were cast down and the ancient days did sit.
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Before long, good politicians, bad politicians, we're going to get rid of them all.
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And Jesus Christ is going to be crowned king of kings and lord of lords.
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Blergh.
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Blergh.
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I mean all they're talking about is a theocracy.
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Come on guys.
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That's really all they're talking about.
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Come on guys.
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Don't be like yeah.
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Come on.
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What are you doing?
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That's hacky.
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But like it is important to point this out because like the idea of this thousand year reign of Christ on earth.
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They're fine with starting that without Christ showing up.
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Oh yeah.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Well isn't he in all of us though?
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Absolutely.
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That's the only way you know.
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Sure.
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So if you want a thousand year reign of Christ you have to have the people with whom Christ is inside.
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It's within all of us.
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And then you kill the rest.
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And that's how the end times works.
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Or you subordinate the rest.
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Boo.
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No.
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No.
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No.
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God would never allow that.
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They have a little bit of a crusade action going.
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He's a little bit more of a straight up murder town guy in the book of revelations at least.
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And the old testament.
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And everywhere that's not Jesus saying please don't murder people.
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Jesus is like hey guys be cool.
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Hey.
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Quit it.
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Hey.
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Cut it out.
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I think that's kind of interesting you know.
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I think that's.
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I don't know.
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What?
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I don't really think.
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I never really thought about it too much.
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What the end times as a like.
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A convenient excuse for a theocracy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I never really considered it until I heard him phrase it that way.
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Yeah.
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Because I know that this guy's a con man.
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Right.
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I know that.
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You know maybe that's a failing on my part that I don't consider like by default religious
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messaging as like an attempt at conning.
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Yeah.
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When not all of it is but a lot of it is.
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Yeah.
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And when you hear these very obvious con people expressing these sorts of ideas it brings
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into sharp focus.
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They're like like I said I think I can't put it better than to say they're fine starting
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without God.
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Yeah.
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They're fine starting without actual Jesus.
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Of course.
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Appearing.
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They don't need that part.
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They'll make.
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Frankly he would ruin it.
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It would hurt.
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Jesus would ruin the theocracy that they are interested in.
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I think you'd have trouble selling those buckets.
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I don't think Jesus would be thrilled with them buckets.
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Uh-uh.
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I think you'd be really offended by the codification of the commodification of this sort of ministry.
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Traditionally he was bummed by that.
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Yeah.
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So speaking of which.
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You know what before you continue and I'm sorry for.
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It's going to be a smooth transition buddy.
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And I'm so sorry.
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The one the one thing that I really hear now that I haven't for a while is like the because
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most people when they're doing the end times ministry don't do the let the second part
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the thousand year reign of Christ right.
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And I think that's mainly because now we know how long time is.
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And that's not that long.
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You know it's a while like back then.
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No it is a while but back then a thousand years is all of the time that they're aware
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of.
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Sure.
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Well the earth is three billion years old a thousand years is not that long.
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And even if you want to go with the earth being only six thousand years old a thousand
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years is still not that long.
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What could happen after the thousand years is over.
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You could still get a bit done.
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I don't know.
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You could get some done.
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But I'm just saying.
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Yeah.
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God is only fine with a sixth of the length of time that the planet that the people have
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been around.
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I think what you're putting your finger on and that's something that's interesting is
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the human aspect of these supposedly divinely inspired ideas.
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The limits of their imagination of anthropology history to help.
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But in the present day we don't worry about those things we don't.
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We sell sell shit sell buckets.
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So we get that bucket of Jesus Lord instead of buckets we had another commercial for those
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water bottles.
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Now when you fly on an airplane do not drink the water.
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No.
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Good call.
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Don't go into the bathroom and turn on that in fact it's a sign right there.
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They said do not drink though.
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That's right.
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The water is not drinkable.
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They provide water.
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This is the lifesaver bottle of all time and the sale is going on.
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So real quick we'll get into the second part of this commercial but it's really fascinating
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that their sales pitch is basically if you find yourself on a plane this bottle is going
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to be helpful.
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It's great.
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Fine.
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You know.
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Fine.
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Anywhere else.
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You can buy a breaks down immediately you buy a bottle of water at the airport for a
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couple bucks.
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Nope.
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No you need this eighty dollar bottle of water.
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Yes.
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You got all of the filter.
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It only works in high altitudes.
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Yeah.
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That's the problem.
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No because you know he he used it on river water.
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He was flying at the time.
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Oh he could have been flying over the river.
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Exactly.
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In his long arm down like Mr. Fantastic and scooped up.
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Sorry.
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On this we're having three of these for just my birthday.
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Yeah.
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The price is amazing.
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Three for seventy eight dollars plus free shipping.
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I mean.
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Oh.
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Oh.
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Yours it's a two hundred and five dollar value.
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That's right.
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For seventy eight dollars and that's my birthday special special but I don't get any of that.
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That is all goes to keep this ministry on the air but this is the king of all of them.
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You can take water out of a mud puddle and you filter it and drink it.
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We drank water out of the Mississippi when it was flooding over you did out of this bottle.
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He's obsessed with this river water.
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Loves the.
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He goes to every river and drinks out of it with this water bottle.
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Drink out of the river.
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So it's Jim Baker's birthday special but don't worry he's not getting any of it.
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Go fuck yourself.
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The fucking gall to sell those have a manufacturer price of two hundred and five dollars for
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three water bottles the sheer fucking gall of it almost makes me want to buy one just
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like the latency of that scam is so bald faced it's hard to imagine me not being like listen
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you got me on this one.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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Good call.
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Kind of obscenely overpriced dumb shit.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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You can't beat that kind of savings.
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I mean two hundred five bucks for 70 what are you going to do.
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I don't know.
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So one of the things you should know is much like all of these sort of very into the end
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times doomsday folk Baxter is super pro Israel.
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He's real into Israel and of course is very celebratory of Trump changing the embassy
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recognizing the embassy in Jerusalem.
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And so they talk about it here.
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And then I just have a weird thought that occurred to me while I was listening to this
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episode that we'll discuss on the other end of this clip.
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The big thing happened on December the 6th.
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I'm sure you know what I'm referring to.
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That's when Donald Trump decided he was going to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
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And my sister right there is going to be there.
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Can you believe it?
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My sister who's so quiet is not doesn't run around the world.
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She's going to Israel and they're going to literally be there on the 70th anniversary
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and be there when they open up the embassy.
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Is that insane?
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They said it can't be done.
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I didn't.
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I think something speedy was going to do it.
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A lot of people have said they were going to do it.
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Yeah.
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They get into that.
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Reagan said he was going to do it.
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They get into that here in a little bit.
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But just the thought that I have two thoughts.
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First, Jim Baker's sister hasn't stopped talking to him, which is crazy.
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Yeah, I know.
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Right.
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That kind of familial bond.
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I have no idea what that's like.
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Transaction.
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Everything is transactional.
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It's crazy to me.
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Like when you have somebody who has had such a career of like manipulation and lie based
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crimes that like you still are like, yeah, I'm going to go I'm going to go to hang out
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at Morning View.
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I'm going to I'm going to still associate with him.
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I mean, you got to you got to at some point say that scamming scammers don't exist in
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a vacuum.
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That's divine love.
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That is unconditional love.
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I admire on one level.
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Is it the promise of a lot of buckets of food when the end times come?
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That could be it.
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Yeah.
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What I admire a little bit less is the knowledge that she was there when snipers were shooting
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people on the Palestinians.
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Yeah, no, that's great.
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Yeah.
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So her end times, her going down there for a nice, you know, maybe cracking a champagne
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bottle on the embassy, which is what they're sort of presenting this as.
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She was actually there when murders were continuing.
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The devil went down to Israel looking for a Palestine to kill.
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I thought you were going to weave buckets in there.
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No, no.
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That was the best I could do.
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So short notice.
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There are a lot of there's a lot of ideas about, you know, the exact nature of the Israeli
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Palestinian conflict.
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And that's something that people who are much smarter than us can do a much better job of.
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But I will tell you, we could do a better job than Irving Baxter.
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OK.
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So with the dedication of the first temple, God said, I will put my name in Jerusalem.
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And that's the reason there's been more wars fought over that city than any other city
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on earth, because Satan heard God say that said, well, really, you want your name there?
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Guess where I want mine?
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So the wars began and the final war Armageddon.
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So I don't the the big issue that I have there is I don't like the idea of like.
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Just petulant siblings as God and the devil, like I really don't I don't I'm not a fan
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of that.
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See, the idea that like you have a ball and your brother wants it.
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Yeah.
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So you fight.
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Yeah.
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I don't.
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Yeah.
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That's who I want to be the creator of the universe, Dan.
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I'm not into it.
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Absolutely.
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You know, to be a profound failing, an intellectual like level that people like people like this
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would be like making that argument with a straight face, you know, like, oh, of course,
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Jesus wanted to put his name here and the devil is like, I want my name there.
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Yeah.
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Then therefore, thousands of years of war and people dying all over the place.
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I don't buy it.
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I find that to be stupid.
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You can you can correct me if I'm wrong here.
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But what I do appreciate about this that is very different from Greek theology is with
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the the pantheon that the Greeks had.
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There was also like especially when you read the Iliad and the like, there's a lot of shame
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for the gods that he has where he's like these fucking asshole gods keep pulling this shit.
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So human.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That was part of the idea of the Greek mythological structure.
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And these guys are the exact opposite.
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They create really, really human gods.
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And then they're like, look at how great these guys are, you know, like they create these
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two petulant, pissy ass little brothers.
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I prefer the Greek version.
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Yeah, I know.
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Me too.
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Because there was a lot more turning into a swan and fucking people back then.
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Sure.
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Lido.
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That's what that Boz Scaggs song was about.
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Really?
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The Lido Shuffle was about Lido and different names.
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Sound very close.
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So I like it whenever your knowledge of certain songs and your knowledge of Greek theology
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line up in a perfect way.
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And the only thing I can say is that's a sign of the end times, Dan.
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Oh man, there's this great, fuck, what's the name of that band?
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There's this horn rock band.
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I think they're called Kronos.
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That's really good.
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They have like, oh man, I got to find that.
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I'm talking out of my ass.
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There you go.
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It's good stuff though.
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Look up Kronos.
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Anyway, speaking of good stuff, I earlier said very recently that I think that Irvin
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Baxter is a dum dum and he's presenting something very stupid.
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But this next clip might, you know, it's indicative that he has some kind of knowledge that we
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don't have and he's very confident about it.
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Okay.
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You know, Jim, I go to Israel twice a year and I keep saying I won't do this, but I do
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it every time.
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And I'm standing on the Mount of Olives and it's like, I know the Lord's going to come
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and land there.
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So I'm always looking around and saying, okay, Jesus, where are we going to land?
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Preserving my spot, but anyway, that's where the Lord's coming back to and it's not going
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to be very long.
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It's not going to be very long, is it?
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People were in the last days.
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We really are.
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Yes, we are.
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I mean, you just heard so much junk over the years and I mean a lot of it was junk, just
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people surmising this and that and everything.
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I only bring people here that are teaching you what the Bible says.
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And this week, you don't want to miss a day.
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But if you want to stay on the air, I have to pay the bills.
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And pivot!
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Boom!
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And pivot!
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My guest knows where Jesus is coming back and he's been staking it out for, get some
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like a nice, nice, you know, festival seating.
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Get a nice blanket down.
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Maybe have a brunch.
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Oh, yeah, you have a little little picnic.
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No, no, no, it's like the it's like the pit in an outdoor show.
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That's general admission.
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You got to be in there quick, otherwise you're going to be in the back.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Then boom and pivot on your ass.
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Oh, man, that was Alex Jones level right there.
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That was the end of the world is happening.
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And hey, guys, in order for us to continue scaring you about the end of the world, right,
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you're going to have to give us your money.
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In order to continue this feedback cycle that we've trapped you in, we need your money.
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That's only one thing that's very similar to Alex Jones that we're going to experience.
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But how many thousands of years of the end times are happening now?
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Are Christians going to accept before they're like, maybe the end times aren't happening
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right now?
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It seems infinite.
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It does kind of seem infinite, right?
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Even in just the years that I've been an adult and aware of stuff, you know, like we've gone
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through this dance so many times.
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Over and over again.
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The Book of Revelations was like, the end times is going to happen in like a week.
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Right.
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You know, like everybody for thousands of years has said we are living through the end
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times.
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But some of that might just have to do with like a lot of these these prophets and speculators
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and con men being unwilling or unable to wrestle with metaphor and context like historical
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context and these books were written like they'll bring together books that were written
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hundreds of years apart in history and be like, well, this is clearly talking about
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the same.
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I know the sociopolitical climate was different.
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This is a you know, there's it's lunacy.
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Well one day God told him to turn his TV on to National Geographic.
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Right.
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And he saw a hawk.
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And as we all know, hawks are representative of Iran.
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That's everybody knows that those two are inextricably linked together.
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Sure.
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And that hawk is just coming for our national basketball team.
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That's what's going down.
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So the end times are here, Dan.
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Oh, I feel it.
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We are either in the beginning or the middle or maybe just past it or maybe it's a ways
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off.
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When you know, you know, you know, you know, you know.
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So that last clip was a pretty harsh ad pivot, but nothing could have prepared me for Jim
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Baker accidentally saying something that I think is profound on air about his money stuff.
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OK.
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Just shortly after.
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OK.
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And I think this also relates to Alex Jones.
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I have to pay the bills.
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You say, oh, you're on all these TV stations and network.
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Don't they just give you that time?
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No, no.
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Some cost me seventeen thousand dollars for one hour.
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And so I have to pay millions of dollars, but we do it.
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I don't know.
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We've been back on TV for about 15 years and I've stayed on every day.
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Can you believe that?
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Thank you.
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It's a miracle.
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No.
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People prophesied over me that I would never be on TV again.
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Don't listen to false prophets.
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You know how you know, a prophet is a prophet, you know, their prophecies come true and we
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make prophets.
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The idea that like people said I'd never be back on air is like, yeah, but you're paying
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for brokered programming.
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You're paying to be on.
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Of course anybody can be on air if they pay for it.
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This is very different than the idea of like I'm on all these stations and stuff like that.
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But also, I don't think Alex Jones is nearly as guilty of that, but I think some of his
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time slots are probably brokered programming on radio stations.
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Yeah, but that's essentially buying an ad.
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You know, like that's all that really like buying all the ads.
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Yeah.
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Well, exactly.
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That's what he's doing.
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Which is, again, the right wing talk radio structure.
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This is what like FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity and the Heritage Foundation
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did to boost the careers of like a Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck in particular,
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Mark Levin.
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All of these people, they would do embedded commercials and stuff like that for the Heritage
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Foundation.
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They would always talk about how positive their information that was coming out was.
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And it was because they were buying all their ad space.
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They were bolstering them.
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They were buying their books in bulk to make it look like they were best sellers.
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This is the scam that goes on.
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It's what Sinclair Media is built upon.
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This is the next level of the media scam.
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This is the scam behind the scam.
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Like Jim Bakker is on air scamming grannies to sell them water bottles and shit like that
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that they'll never need.
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They're selling, unless they go to the rivers, selling these food buckets and stuff like
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that.
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That's the consumer level scam.
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And then the business scam behind it, which I think Jim Baker's been left out in the cold
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on.
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So he probably does have to, you know, pony up and buy everything for sure, which is why
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he's so desperate and sells like a motherfucker.
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Yeah.
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Still, he's making money off this.
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You can't afford $17,000 for an hour unless you are making a shit ton of money, a lot
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of money.
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The idea of like, I have to pay for all this and I break even, nope, not a fucking chance.
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Not a chance.
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The other side of it is the people like the Rushes and like the Hannitys who, you know,
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whatever their career is now, like, you know, 10, 15 years ago, they were only in the position
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they were in because of those benefactors, shit like that.
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It's a, you know, it's a good system.
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There's no, there is a good system.
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There isn't that on the left.
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I'll tell you that.
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No, no, we don't have that.
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We don't have that kind of canny evil about us.
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No, but everyone wants to pretend that that's what Soros is doing.
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Of course.
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Everyone wants to pretend that that's what's happening, but it's not.
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I know you are, but what am I?
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It's, it will never, it will never end.
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The brilliance of the right wing scam to do the most evil shit and then simultaneously
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accuse their enemies of doing exactly what they're doing as a way to preempt you from
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criticizing them for doing what they're doing.
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See Roger Stone in August, 2016.
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It's brilliant.
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It is awful.
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And that's, that's why we lose.
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Well, that's hard.
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That's why we lose.
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It's hard to fight back against in a, like, in a strong, coherent way.
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Right.
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I'm not even positive how you do it necessarily.
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I mean, we can't really.
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Torches?
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Pitchforks?
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Might, they might be, uh...
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Socialism?
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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Those sorts of things are certainly beyond our capabilities as broadcasters.
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We don't fucking know what the answer is.
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We just know what the problem is.
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Yeah.
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Here it is.
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Look at it.
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That's the other name of this show.
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Here it is.
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Look at it.
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Look at this.
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God damn it.
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Why isn't everybody looking at this?
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They're all con men and look at it.
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Yeah.
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Look at it.
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Stare into the abyss.
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So I told you that there were similarities, uh, beyond the ad pivot that make this episode
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in particular very relevant to the Alex Jones that we know, um, and the topics that we cover.
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And I don't know, the pay-for-play structure that Jim Baker's expressing, I don't think
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that's, like, maybe not the biggest parallel.
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I think there's some overlap, but nothing I can prove in terms of Alex's world.
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Right, right, right, right.
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I think he probably has, you know, like I said, I think he's probably dishing out for
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some of those channels.
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Uh, but that doesn't make sense, because if he was, he'd have fucking War Room on more
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than one station.
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Nah.
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But be that as it may, this, to me, is, uh, like, this.
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As a businessman, Alex keeps his overhead lower.
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That's not a terrible idea.
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We don't know that.
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Fair.
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We don't know that.
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Fair.
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But we do know that this next clip, uh, well, I know that, and you will soon, uh, is, like,
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this is, like, you might as well have Alex Jones on the Jim Baker show.
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Oh, boy.
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The Jerusalem Embassy Act passed in 1995 by our Congress, which says they have to move
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the embassy, but they, they put an out in there.
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They put a little clause in there that said, but if it would endanger national security,
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the president can sign a waiver.
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So guess what?
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Forty-four times the presidents have signed waivers since 1995.
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And then when Donald Trump, he said, wait, why, are they afraid of the enemies of Jerusalem?
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They're afraid of offending the UN, because most of them believe the UN is destined to
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be a wonderful world government, and so they were going to go straight directly against
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the UN.
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But what's your opinion of the UN?
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Um, well, we'll get into that a little later, because that's serious.
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The one world government, I'll just tell you, the one world government is of Satan.
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Sure.
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So.
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Sure.
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That is, I mean, that's just a not-yelling Alex.
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And that's why we need a strong nationalist movement that aligns itself with other nations
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in order to make sure everybody's nationalist together in a global unified front.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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That makes sense.
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Mm hmm.
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Could it also be, now I'm going to posit you this.
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Could it also be that the reason that the waivers have been signed forty-four times
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is because they were aware of the mass murders and instability of the region that would result
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from this kind of situation here?
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I mean, that's an interesting theory.
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I'm just saying it's possible.
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It's possible.
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I'm just saying that it might be that our government has known Israel would be willing
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to murder any and everybody.
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They have good reason to think that.
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Yeah.
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I'm less interested in that.
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I want to focus more on Ervin Baxter.
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So of course, he believes in a satanic one world government.
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We'll get to some even further parallels with Alex here in a little bit.
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Revelations.
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I want to talk about something very specific.
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This guy has been making money off the Israeli Palestine conflict.
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That's kind of what he does.
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That's one of the ways he stokes up fear.
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So what do you think, I'm going to read to you here, what do you think about this?
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Quote, the signing of an Arab-Israeli peace treaty will be the most important prophetic
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fulfillment since the crucifixion of Jesus.
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According to the Bible, the signing of this treaty will begin the last seven years before
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the final battle of Armageddon.
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In the middle of the seven year period, the great tribulation begins.
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That's something he wrote.
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OK.
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Now, does that sound a little less sincere when you realize that he wrote that in 1992?
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He's still got time to be right, Dan.
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Still got time.
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No, because the seven years.
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Yeah.
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He's not.
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He's talking about the Oslo Accord.
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Seven years is a lot longer in God's time.
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Oh, a day to God is a thousand years.
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Exactly.
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So quote, Mideast peace talks are in progress right now.
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It appears the treaty will be signed in 1993.
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Is it coincidental that 1993 is seven years from the year 2000?
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Yes.
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It's not coincidence, that's math.
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But of course, as always, this is part of a con.
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The article that he wrote goes on to say, quote, we want to send out one million magazines
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in America this month as the treaty is signed.
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People will not respond to that which they do not know.
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This special emergency edition of End Time will explain the Arab-Israeli treaty and its
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role in prophecy.
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The cost of printing and mailing a million magazines is $400,000.
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We're opening a Mideast emergency fund savings account.
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All who would like to help awaken America may contribute to this emergency fund.
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After four issues of End Time, we will have 10,000 subscriptions.
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If 10,000 people give $40 a piece, we could awaken America.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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I'm sure all of the money in that fund is going to go to-
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Awakening America?
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Is it going to go to that?
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I'm sure.
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But I mean-
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I guarantee that all of the money that he takes is just going to go right back out into
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the world.
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Right.
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I mean, you see what the game is here.
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It's a very easy to see through game.
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So like I said, this gets much more similar to Alex and it starts in this next clip and
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it made me shudder.
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We often refer to international community, new world order, world community.
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We have the World Bank.
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We have the World Court.
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We have the World Trade Organization.
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We have the World Health Organization.
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Satan is right now hurting this whole world into a one world government because once he
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gets there, then he gets control of it.
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Then he can control every person on earth.
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And he intends to control every person on earth.
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You know what he wants to do?
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He wants you to worship him.
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That's his whole goal.
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Instead of you and me worshiping God, he wants us to worship him.
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And he's got a plan to herd the whole human race.
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It's through this one world government.
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They call it globalism or globalization.
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Oh, boy, oh, boy, boy, this is the same thing.
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Oh, man, how fun is that?
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You know, I have a question.
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OK.
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So Satan wants everybody to worship him, right?
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He wants the ball that Jesus has been playing with.
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Has he ever put forth a good reason why that's bad?
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You mean has God or Jesus put forth a reason?
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Yeah.
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Or even Ervin Baxter.
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If Satan wants everybody on the planet to worship him.
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Well, because he's old scratch.
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He's a liar.
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He's a liar.
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Yeah, but I feel like if everybody agreed.
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He wants to burn you forever with pitchforks.
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Poke you in your butt.
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So how is it different if the one world government.
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He's the great deceiver.
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I just want to yell old scratch again.
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The one world government is run by God or run by Satan.
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It's still two supernatural beings with nigh infinite power who can do whatever it is they
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want and we're just pawns in their game.
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Why would you want to be part of that period?
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Well, I think if you want to look at it from a humanistic standpoint and take a lot of
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the window dressing away, I think the argument that they would make would have something
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to do with like God has your best interests in heart and he has the Bible.
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I don't think he does.
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It's I think he kind of doesn't like me.
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It's case by case, but the argument that they would make is that God respects man and old
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scratch just wants to trick man.
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I mean, but if he gets what he wants, why would he continue to trick people?
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Because why do you think like Jim Baker went to prison for fraud and he got out and he's
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still doing fraud, right?
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But he's so wait, what?
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I don't understand what that argument is for or against.
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I'm saying that Jim going to prison is the equivalent of the devil getting his way in
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some ways because it's the logical fruition of the scam he was pulling.
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It's the natural end to it.
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So why would he keep doing it after he'd already played it out?
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I would argue him going to prison is not a failure necessarily.
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He still has more money than me.
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He had more money than me the day he got out of prison.
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True.
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No arguments from me.
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So go fuck yourself with the idea that that's a failure and the idea that he can't keep
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doing it again.
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Like he can't just like say, oh, I was wrong, but here now I'm right.
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Like that's that to me is the devil getting his way.
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I'm probably wrong about really not following it.
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I'm not either.
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Really don't know what you're trying to say.
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There's a kernel of truth in what I'm saying.
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I can't quite get to it.
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Okay.
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I don't know, man.
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I guess this would be, I don't know.
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Why does Alex keep lying now that Trump's president?
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There's more games to be played.
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That's true.
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Maybe it's that.
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Maybe the devil gets in charge of everything and then he's like, now I can get real interesting.
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Oh, that's, that's possible.
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And then he would pretend that Jesus was trying to destroy things from behind the scenes.
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Oh, of course.
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The deep state.
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The deep religion.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Um, you know, it would be something like that.
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The games that can be played with lies are never ending.
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The game never ends.
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No, but I, that's depressing, but I thought it was real fucked up to hear like, uh, the
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globalism and globalists.
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Uh, this is like, which suggests he's very aware of the, uh, people who are, uh, in alignment
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with him without pulling the whole end times dressing on it.
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Right.
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No, Alex pulls some of that, but not nearly as overt as this.
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Right.
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But yeah, he, not to say that he definitely listens to Info Wars, but I wouldn't be surprised
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now or at least is like in that community like that, that weird, um,
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If you're an end times preacher, Info Wars makes perfect sense for you.
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I would think that your Info Wars, yeah, your Info Wars adjacent.
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So the people that you know, know Info Wars.
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The ideas made popular by Info Wars are something that Ervin Baxter clearly is into.
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Yeah.
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And that's not good.
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So, um, in this next clip, also because a lot of these ideas are based on archaic antisemitism
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and the protocols of the Elders of Zion.
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So that's not great.
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Of course.
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Uh, in this next clip, we get to hear another similarity with Alex Jones.
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And when I, when I was listening to that debate of 17 Republicans, all of a sudden, I didn't
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know who Donald Trump was, frankly, all of a sudden he started speaking against globalism.
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I thought, wait a minute, I haven't heard a politician speaking against globalism in
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a long time.
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He must know something.
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And then he spoke against the establishment.
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Well, I knew about the establishment.
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I knew that for 50 years, the same powers control both Republican and Democratic parties.
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And I had understood that because I knew that there was a private club in America and 50%
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of all cabinet members come out of that private club, whether the Republicans are in power
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or the Democrats are in power.
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You know, I wonder why when I voted, I felt like I was voting for Tweedly Dee or Tweedly
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Dumb, but then I found out.
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So then when he started speaking against the establishment, I says, does Donald Trump understand
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this?
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No.
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Pfft, whoa, a politician speaking against the establishment?
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I can't imagine a time when that would happen.
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Someone might call him a baverick.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, somebody who's willing to upend the swamp or perhaps the corruption
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in...
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Dude, dude, dude, I think every three weeks we have a politician running on appending
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the establishment.
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I think this is a good story for a person to tell because it buries the lead of like,
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I heard him saying really fucked up stuff and I was like, I dig this.
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I dig this.
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He's going to be repressive to people who aren't like me.
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When I heard Donald say that all Mexicans were rapists, I was like, whoa, I have never
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heard a politician say that before.
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You don't want to say that.
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I could get on board with this guy.
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You don't want to be the guy going on Jim Baker's show and saying that.
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You want to say, hey, he was against the establishment.
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Oh my God, when I heard him say that you can grab them by the pussy, I was like, holy cow,
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this guy is really going to upend the establishment.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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When I read about him raping his wife.
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So like, I don't know, I don't know what to do with it, but there you go.
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You know, you have this guest on Jim Baker's show super into real inaccurate end times
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prophecies and it turns out he also believes the same shit as Alex Jones about politics.
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So that's super fun.
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Hey.
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Also, this is super fun.
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I don't think that, I think that here's a good example of Irvin Baxter talking shit.
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The Bible actually tells us that there is a great harvest coming because we've got these
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two witnesses.
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You know, Satan has his two agents, Antichrist and False Prophet.
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They're alive somewhere today.
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They're alive.
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Sure.
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We don't know yet who they are for sure.
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Because we're in the end times or at the beginning.
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I do know the False Prophet will be when the Antichrist arrives.
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But these two are on the earth right now.
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But I'm not going to tell you.
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God is not sitting idly by because at the same time the Antichrist has revealed the
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Bible says he will send his two witnesses, they called them the two witnesses or the
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two prophets, and they're going to prophesy for 1,260 days.
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And these two preachers are going to be powerful.
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They're going to have the option of turning off nation's reign if those nations rebel
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against God.
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Sometimes the water will be turned in blood.
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You can read all about it in Revelation chapter number 11.
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Pass.
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Hard pass on that.
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Hard pass on that one.
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Hard pass on the prophets who turn off water.
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You know what?
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Hey, what are you going to do?
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What are you going to do?
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That's what happened to Flint, Michigan.
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So we...
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Hated God for a little bit too long.
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Water's oil now.
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So we got the False Prophet and the Antichrist.
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The Antichrist is the one who impersonates Christ.
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Right.
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And then the False Prophet bolsters this Antichrist.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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And then we got two guys who can preach for a long time and one of them can turn off reign.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I don't like this superhero matchup.
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I don't like it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This is the worst Avengers movie.
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I don't know who to root for here.
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Right.
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These guys both suck.
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On the quote unquote good side, what does the other guy do?
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Oh, he's like...
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Can they both turn off reign?
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No, no, no.
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The other guy is like, check this shit out.
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The other guy...
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Hype Man.
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Hype Man.
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This is Run-DMC.
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Hype Man.
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That's what we're talking about here.
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All right.
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All right.
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This is what this is over with.
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This is Run the Jewels.
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You got your Killer Mike, you got your LP.
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One of the guys spinning beats, not the best rapper.
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The other guy spits hot fire.
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That's the way it goes.
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Now you're going to disagree with me about LP not being the best.
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I'm not.
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I was going to...
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I just think that...
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I think what he thinks is that Pope is the anti... or is the false prophet.
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Is the false prophet?
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I think that's what he thinks.
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Because he's the cool pope?
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Well, that's what a lot of people in these circles believe.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He was making the argument that Obama was the anti-Christ.
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Right.
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He was being bolstered by the pope.
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Right.
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The evil cool pope.
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This pope is telling us that the earth should survive and we shouldn't destroy it.
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He is saying that it's okay to be a human being and accept other people.
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And there's only one thing that can mean.
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False prophet.
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Devil.
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Done.
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Sold.
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As opposed to the other pope who was a Nazi.
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That was a great pope.
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Loved that pope.
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The pope who covered up sexual abuse.
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That wasn't the false prophet.
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That's most of them.
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That was a great pope.
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The thing that I love about this is that it's so...
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That was most of them, yeah.
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It's so Irvin Baxter style to be like, I know this.
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I'm going to tell you.
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Yeah.
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In the same way, he's very careful not to make these specific predictions about doomsday's,
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which is why it's fun that we were able to very easily come up with a couple that he
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said from over the last 30 years.
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But he would never be dumb enough to be like, I know who the Antichrist's messenger is.
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The false prophet is blank on air.
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You don't get any cachet out of that.
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It's not fun.
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It's not sexy when you're wrong all the time.
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Anyway.
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I love this level of psychopath.
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Because serial killers are, you know, they're such a bummer.
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They're fascinating, but they're a bummer.
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This level of psychopath is, you know, this guy goes home and sleeps so well.
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Probably.
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He is just like, oh, another day in the factory scamming people out of money.
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I am good.
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He probably has less concern of like people hurting him and more like the IRS looking
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into it.
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Yeah.
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And that fear is kind of like, well, I'll know when I'm in trouble.
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So until I know who gives a shit.
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But this psychopath, these psychopaths always think that they're going to be one step ahead.
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They always think they're going to outsmart whomever is coming after them.
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So, you know, I mean, Jim Baker probably only had that reinforced after getting out of prison
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and jumping back into the scam.
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He was like, look, all they did to me was put me away for a few years and now I'm still
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rich.
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I just hang out in a cell with Lyndon LaRouche for a little while.
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What do you what do you what do you got on me?
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Come on.
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Yeah, I can do this again.
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You just taught me the parameters of what's not acceptable.
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Exactly.
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I know my limits now.
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Yeah.
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This is blow all over again.
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I came I went in with marijuana and I came out with a bachelors in cocaine or whatever.
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Right.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So all this is is to say that this is just I mean, again, it's us banging the same gong
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over and over again.
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These are goddamn con men just trying to scam grannies out of money and poor, poor people
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who have been caught up in the fear cycle.
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But yeah, more importantly, what they're espousing has real world consequences.
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And it's often easy to say they don't really care about the consequences.
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They just want the money.
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But sometimes they accidentally say things like this next clip that leads you to, I think,
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make the reasonable assumption that they kind of want to hurt the people that they end up
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hurting.
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So they're like they're like first money, right?
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Close second.
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Fuck those guys.
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Yeah.
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And it might it might be a tie.
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I don't even know, but here we go.
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And then with the next video is the first steps to Armageddon, which we probably have
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already started.
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Haven't we?
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Yes, we have.
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We have started.
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And I'll just tip the hat just a little bit.
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And that is on, I believe it was November the twenty ninth of 2012, the General Assembly
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of the UN voted to recognize the Palestinians as a non member state.
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Well, once they recognize them as a recognized state, that qualified them to join the World
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Court, the International Criminal Court.
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And once they become a member of the International Criminal Court, which they now have done,
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they have the right to file charges against Israel so that the International Criminal
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Court, an arm of the United Nations, can put the leaders of Israel on trial.
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So this was the first step.
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And I tell all about it and why it's so significant in this particular DVD.
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That's another aspect of the understanding that we all need right now.
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You need to know, because the king is coming back.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, all hell is going to break loose.
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So he is super afraid of the idea of Palestinians having rights.
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Yeah, that's that's terrible.
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That's a sign of the end time.
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All hell could break loose.
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Having the right of recourse, dude, you start giving people rights.
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We've seen this time and time again throughout history.
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You start giving people rights and then they want to use them.
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And that's the end times.
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That is true.
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That's the end times, Dan.
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It's only the end times for one thing.
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You're gonna say, but I don't need to hear it.
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You're gonna say, I don't need to hear it.
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But it's not even it's not even the one thing.
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I think we're probably talking about, like, white supremacy.
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It's more than that.
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It's because it's not just about white.
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It's also about...
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It's entrenched power.
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It is.
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It's about minority majority rule.
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It's whenever a small...
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It's about repression.
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It's about continuing a system of repression.
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It's about South Africa being owned by 10% white people and then being really pissed
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when 90% of the population is like, hey, aren't we human beings, too?
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And having no interest in the status quo being equitable.
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No interest in the idea that people who have been wronged can have recourse other than
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protesting and getting shot outside a wall.
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Well, yeah.
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So cool.
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We let them have their protest, Dan.
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I didn't do shit.
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I didn't let anybody do anything.
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I didn't say they can do whatever they want.
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Do what thou wilt.
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See what I'm saying?
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See, now that now I kind of want Satan to rule the world.
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He's got a good policy.
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Aleister Crowley was Aldi version Satan.
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A three liter bottle of cola of Satan.
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Anyway, we have one more clip.
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And again, it's another parallel, because the other day when we were doing an Alex Jones
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episode, we heard him have that guy Stan Dayo on, who is a Christian fundamentalist, who
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is talking about the caldera Yellowstone was going to blow, but then also saying a bunch
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of flagrantly racist stuff.
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And it's interesting because that's on Jim Baker's mind, too.
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Today, a new headline about Yellowstone.
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It says Yellowstone Volcano Eruption World Not Ready.
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The red dragon in the news.
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The world's not ready for major blast.
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Experts say millions may die.
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They're saying Yellowstone volcano eruption could kill scores of people, actually millions
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rock economies, disrupt air travel, even threaten peace as the world's unprepared for the next
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major volcanic blast, scientists say.
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So this terrible says this next major eruption could very well happen in your lifetime.
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Death toll could reach millions.
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This is brand new story just out today.
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Millions of hungry people do not stay quiet for a long time.
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It says people fighting, people killing, people doing all kinds of crazy things.
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You're going to want a bucket of food Bible, because the people who know the Bible, they're
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the ones who are going to be prepared and they're going to be soul winners who are going
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to take advantage of that time, knowing that the time is short.
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And so we're sending these and you send a gift of $60.
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We're sending you four sets of teachings.
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And then you have the America's God given destiny.
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Most people think America doesn't have much of a destiny in the way we've been mocking
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God and killing children.
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Really, I haven't seen this one yet.
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I mean, it'd be like it'd be like Israel killing children.
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That'd be terrible.
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The true comedy is at the end there is like, I haven't seen this one.
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I don't read any of this shit.
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This is so profound and so important.
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I haven't seen that.
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I haven't read it.
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I just assume it is because I'm selling it and you guys better send me 60 bucks.
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I'll send you four of them.
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Skimmed it.
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Got to do it.
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Oh, got to do it.
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You know, I don't like I don't like how clear it was to you that that was.
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Oh, that was such an ad money.
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Oh, yeah.
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Right around the corner.
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That was one.
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You knew it's bullshit because if I understand the volcano under Yellowstone correctly, that
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is an extinction level event.
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If it if it erupts, it's going to kill the planet, maybe a third of it, like, oh, there
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we go.
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Like that's going to fuck everything up.
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I think some estimates say that.
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I don't know if that's a definite thing or sort of a worst and next to worst case scenario.
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Well, I mean, it's it's just I think I think regardless, it's like a bad add that to climate
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change and you're fucked, you know.
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Sure.
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Like and all the stuff that he's talking about, climate change is already doing as we speak.
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Like people are absolutely displacement.
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Yeah.
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Famine.
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Yeah.
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And that's leading to increased nationalism, which winds up leading to wars.
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Why can you only see this and respect the outcomes when it's presented to you as a science
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fiction movie premise?
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Yeah.
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Like Yellowstone blowing up.
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Well, because that's real, Dan.
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You can't see it really happening in the world.
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Climate change is a lie perpetrated by the devil.
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Whatever.
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To bring about the end times.
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Whatever.
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Yeah.
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This bums me out.
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Anyway, the thing the thing that I notice most as far as a parallel between Baker and
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Jones is when you go down to the lowest levels of this stuff, it's so transparent.
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And what bums me out about that is so many Christians are like, well, we would never
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be taken in by that con man.
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You mean like Alex Jones?
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Yeah, we would never.
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So many Republicans would be like, we would never be taken in by that con man.
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And you just go up a level and it's the same fucking scam, man.
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They're just better at it.
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Go down all the way to the bottom and then you can extrapolate backwards and you're
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like, oh, this whole thing is a fucking scam.
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These guys that we're looking at all the time are the desperate con men.
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Exactly.
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And that's why you can see their tricks very easily.
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So simply.
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But it's all done the same way on higher levels.
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Absolutely.
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That's a contention that I hold very strongly and it bums me out, man.
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It's brutal.
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Bums me out.
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And there's, to me, what's fascinating is that there are, and I was thinking this the
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whole time, I was like, I think I would be way better off with myself if I was taken
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in by like a really good con man.
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You know, like the best con man.
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There's no shame in that.
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You know, you got taken in by the best.
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The best con man is going to get you.
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He's so good at it.
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I misheard what you were saying.
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I thought you meant right now your life would be better if a good con man.
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Oh no, no, no, no.
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I mean, if I were, if you were taken in by one, it would be better that it be a good
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one.
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You would want it, you would want it to be the Mike trout of con men.
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You'd be like, look man, I got nothing against this.
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You got me.
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I'm an ACE pitcher.
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He's still going to hit a dong.
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He's still going to hit it.
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Yeah.
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It's going to happen.
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But when you're taken in by a con man, that's what so many Christians are pissed off about.
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And that's why they can't get past it is because they can't, they get to look down on people
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taken in by these con men because it makes them feel better about being taken in by a
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better con man.
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They're like, well, Hey man, at least I got taken in by a better one than that guy.
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Yeah.
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Those people are stupid.
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And there's something to be said for the comfort of the con too, because when you're the Mark,
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the con man, isn't just offering you a way to get rid of money.
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They're offering you a presentation of the world.
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Yeah.
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So for like Jim Baker's minions, minions, maybe not his supporters and people who send
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him money, his minions are his children.
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They get fake food out of it, but then at the same time, they get the comfort of checking
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that off the list.
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Right.
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In reality, there's probably no need for those buckets ever.
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They're gross and you don't want them, but the fact that you have them in your home gets
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rid of some sort of insecurity that Jim Baker has created in you in the same way that Alex
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Jones, because the world is so scary and so confusing, he is able to contextualize the
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world in an adolescent way that people are really like, it gives you a comfort.
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If you, if you think that all the world is this one group of people who are messing things
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up and then trying to get us all to fight with each other or whatever because they want
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a one world government, much like this Baxter asshole thinks, that's much easier than being
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like, no man, there's rogue agents all over the place.
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People are selfish.
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People often miscommunicate things.
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Sometimes things happen by accident.
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You know, there isn't, that's hard to deal with because the chaos of it leaves you with
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an unrelievable anxiety because you're never going to be able to know all of it.
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So if you just are like, eh, it's the globalists, they're evil, blah, blah, blah, it offers
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you the same thing that having a food bucket in your house offers you.
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And that's, that's the part of me that I think, or not part of me, but that's the part of
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this that I find the most gross is that they know that, like they know that, like they
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know that they're creating those anxieties in order to relieve them.
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The Hegelian dialect, if you will, problem reaction solution on a psychological level,
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they are offering that to their listeners and the solution is always money.
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It's always the need to give us money and we'll either give you a thing or we'll fight
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the globalists for you.
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And that will solve your problems and you can go about your life comfortable knowing
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that you are taken care of.
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But still be afraid of not white christian people.
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Well, you gotta still be afraid of them.
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Still be afraid of them because they're usually up to something and Soros is paying them to
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be mad at you.
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I am.
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Who knows?
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I am so fascinated by the fears that they have of the imaginary, like the, the devil,
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like all of those things.
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Like it, it is interesting to me because the reality is so much of this shit is actually
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just psychopaths.
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Like so much like Trump does not have the ability to feel emotions for other human beings.
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Like he is a true psychopath.
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Yeah.
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He wants to fuck his daughter.
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It's just like, I want everything and I will do and say anything without shame.
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Like so many, you know, they do the, they do the surveys and all that too.
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Like what is the highest possibility of finding a psychopath?
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Go to a CEO.
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What is the highest place where you can find psychopaths?
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Go to DC.
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Like all of these places of power where psychopaths congregate in order to fuck you over and yet
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they can't believe like, it's hard to wrap your head around a human being who's just
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a human being that is a psychopath as opposed to an actual malicious devil taking over and
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imbuing them with this psychopathy.
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But that's the, that, that kernel of truth is one of the other things that's extrapolated
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by these people like Alex in order to create this vision of a team of psychopaths, right?
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Like this idea that yes, power is a place where psychopaths congregate.
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Alex takes it to the next step, which I mean it does make some sense if you don't really
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understand how things work, that like if there are a ton of psychopaths, they'd get together
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and psychopath together.
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But generally they can't really work together all that well.
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Generally there's going, you don't usually see serial killers working as a team.
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You know what I mean?
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That's very, very rare.
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Ah, but there are plenty of actual examples of that.
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You have the Hillside Stranglers, you have- But there was way, there's way more-
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Oh yeah, yeah.
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There's way more lone, lone gunmen out there.
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And the reason for that is generally people of that mental frame don't work well with
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others so they can be type A and focused and driven enough to get to the top of a business
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world where it's like crushing other people to get up and stuff like that.
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You can do that just fine, but then the idea of all banding together to fleece the rest
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of the world, which Alex would say is what they're doing, is just, that's not how psychology
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works.
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What I would really prefer is I would really prefer that if it came down to it, there would
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be two psychopaths who were evil, who were fighting against two psychopaths who were
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good, and some of them could turn off the rain.
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Exactly.
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And then we could finally answer that- There we go.
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... clear water revival songs question, who will stop the rain?
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I'll tell you who, one of God's messengers.
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You're welcome, Fogarty.
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In a purely punitive way for no reason.
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For not respecting God enough.
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Yeah.
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If there's... And I really, really... That's one of the things that I really wish is that
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people could get past that primitive reactionary idea of the way to solve things is through
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punishment.
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Even if God's messengers, their plan is to fucking punish people who don't like them.
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That is the same, that is what is built into the hard right evangelical bullshit is like,
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of course poor people shouldn't have money.
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They need to be punished for being poor to get over the poorness.
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That makes perfect sense.
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That's the same fucking idea.
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Oh, of course these people aren't acting the way God wants them to, so we kill them.
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Duh.
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That way they'll learn.
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Or we don't kill them, but we celebrate that they got killed.
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Yeah, exactly.
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We don't want to have the agency of it, but we're thrilled with the result.
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And that's kind of what you can see being expressed here by Palestinians.
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That's gross.
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It's fucking gross.
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Regarding Palestinians, not by Palestinians, right?
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I think that's what I said.
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If not, that's what I meant.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's what I...
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I say in regards to them, like what Baxter's opinions are.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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It's not giving a fuck about them having any rights.
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Right.
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Anyway, I mean...
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Well, apartheid has always been great, Dan.
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Everybody knows it.
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A lot of people got rich.
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Like, Bibi Netanyahu's wife, and him, and all of those...
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Bobby Chaps.
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Yeah, those guys.
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It's crazy how much they hated it whenever people had rights.
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It's almost like they had a financial incentive to make sure they didn't.
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So anyway, we should wrap this up, because we're out of clips.
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And I don't know, I don't want to name a person, because it's too obvious.
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Oh, there's only one.
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Ricky Baker?
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Yeah.
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That fucking kid.
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No, I'm going to go with Jim Baker's sister.
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What are you doing, lady?
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Oh, oh, I forgot she was in this.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, she was in Israel.
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Go fuck yourself, Jim Baker's sister.
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Jim Baker's unknown sister.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.