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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan!

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We are a couple dudes, I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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That is what we do.

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It is.

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Is there a... let me ask you a question.

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I love Q&A sessions.

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Okay, Dan.

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Yes.

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If you were a bird, what type of bird would you be?

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I'd probably be like Nellie Furtado.

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She's like a bird, she'll only fly away.

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I don't think Nellie Furtado is a bird though.

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She's similar to one.

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Alright, let's try the bid.

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Try again.

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You would be a bird that knows a lot about Alex Jones.

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You can't say him, I follow my nose to propaganda truths.

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And I would be like...

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Trix Rabbit.

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The extinct dodo.

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Okay.

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That's what I would be like.

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You don't know anything about Alex Jones.

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I don't know anything about Alex Jones.

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Jordan, today we are going to be going over a thrilling episode of my investigation into

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what happened to Alex in 2015 to get him to sign up with the Donald Trump for President

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campaign.

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Yes.

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And I legitimately think that all our questions are answered.

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You think it's done?

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I think it's done.

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You think we got it?

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I think we're done.

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We're there.

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Or are you just, are you done?

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I'm done.

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No, I don't think we're done-done, let's say.

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But I think all of the questions that I started this investigation with are officially answered.

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Okay.

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I don't have any more questions about why Alex Jones joined Team Trump.

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Putin.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Big part of it, Vladimir Putin.

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Wow.

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For those of you who have not been following along to every, the last 17 installments-

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Yeah, the what we thought was going to be maybe two episodes.

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I thought five.

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Where we last left off, Alex Jones was in full support of Putin and Russia mode.

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Still not all the way in support of Russia.

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Quite, though.

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I mean, no, no, no, I meant Trump, not Russia.

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No, he has not made any real evolution in the past three or four months in 2015 in terms

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of saying that he likes what he says, but he doesn't trust him.

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Yeah.

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He doesn't think he can trust him because he's supported Hillary in the past, X, Y,

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and Z.

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Gotta hear that.

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Mob.

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He's supported Bullshirt, the mob connections thing.

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He's supported assault weapons bans in the past.

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Can't have that.

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Guns.

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There are all these things.

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Alex Jones fully supports Vladimir Putin and Russia, and all of their actions in the world

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is clearly swayed by Russian propaganda and has not yet supported Donald Trump.

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Right.

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So also where we last left off, David Knight was hosting for about a week.

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So really the question is like, when does RT start supporting Trump?

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That is the question.

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That's pretty much it.

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And I actually know the answer to that, and we have not gotten there yet.

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Okay.

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It's pretty clear.

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The moment that happens, all of a sudden Alex does?

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No.

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Spoiler alert, Alex is a little bit ahead of Russian state media as it relates to supporting

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Donald Trump.

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But I don't want to tip my cards too hard because our investigation today will be covering

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the dates of October 27th, 2015 to November 9th, 2017 or 2015, it's not two years.

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That would be too much.

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That's a long investigation.

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And it would involve the future.

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But before we get into our investigation today in earnest, I'd like to give a shout out to

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a couple of new policy wonks.

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Oh shit.

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What's going on out there, Doug?

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you so much for joining up with the team.

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Thanks Doug.

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I'd like to give a shout out to Maria.

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What's going on out there?

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Congratulations to you both on becoming policy wonks.

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Very much.

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Very exciting stuff.

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If you would like to become a policy wonk, you may do so by going to our website, knowledgefight.com,

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clicking the support the show button, and you'll be a policy wonk.

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Also, before we start, we should-

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You actually don't have to donate, you just click the button and it takes a random amount

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of money away from you.

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Just like the pants.

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You just order them and then whatever shows up, shows up.

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And we have a patriot anthem that we've written about our support the show button.

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I hate it when jobs go south.

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I'm looking for a button that won't screw over my family.

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Knowledge Fight buttons guaranteed to not screw over your family.

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That's not going to make sense to anyone who hasn't listened to a bunch of this show.

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So also, I need to make this announcement.

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We've been flirting and teasing around with the idea that there's something big coming.

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Here's what it is.

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We are now going to be broadcasting live every night at 8pm central.

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Not every night.

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Not the weekends.

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Monday through Thursday at least.

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Right.

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We will be broadcasting from 8 till question mark, live on the internet, video, audio,

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all of it.

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You can find our feed at twitch.tv slash knowledgefight.

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We are going to be going over current day Alex Jones, keeping up with what bullshit

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he's spilling every day.

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We're going to try and make this Knowledge Fight more robust, take it into the info war

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arena.

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Jordan, you're staring at me weirdly.

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What am I supposed to say?

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You're very excited.

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So excited.

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You're very excited.

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It's frightening.

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For years and years I've wanted to do, first of all, a live thing.

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I've wanted to do a radio show, and eventually we'll work in the ability to take calls and

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stuff like that.

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This possibility that we can get it into that sort of thing as opposed to us sitting around

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for three hours and then releasing it the next day or whatever, it really excites me.

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It's almost like we have to do it because with the 2015 investigation, fine, we release

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it two days later, and yeah, it's still the past.

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But when we do a present day episode, you release it the next day and you're like, well,

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all of that stuff means nothing anymore.

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Alex has jumped to a whole other narrative.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Or there's another hurricane coming.

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It's a lot like how the New York Times and the Washington Post are like, Trump is great

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now.

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He's a fucking lunatist.

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Trump is an independent.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, he's still a Nazi, but he's an independent Nazi.

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That's also another one of the reasons why I feel very compelled to do this now, because

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I think we're about to enter a really interesting period that will test Alex Jones's commitment

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to Donald Trump because of the debt ceiling situation and people saying that Trump is,

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he's a true independent.

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He's working with the Democrats.

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I fucking hate people.

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I hate these people.

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I know.

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Our media is fucking worthless.

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It's nonsense.

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They are worthless.

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But the mind boggling thing is that, like, I kind of get it because it's like, dude,

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we have a Nazi in the White House.

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We can't just every day be like, guys, Nazi, guys, Nazi, he's a Nazi, guys, Nazi.

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Are you paying attention?

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He's a Nazi.

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Focus.

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So they're just trying to get like a different narrative.

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They're just bored.

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And much like we end up being a lot of the time with Alex.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But that's why we talk about Project Camelot sometimes, which I wish the video would just

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do.

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Rather than pretending that Alex is fine today.

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Right, right.

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Because Alex supports weed legalization, so Alex is a true independent now.

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He's definitely not a white supremacist.

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He's working with the Democrats.

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Fuck you, Washington Post.

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New York Times, I expect this bullshit from you.

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You guys are garbage.

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Washington Post, you're supposed to be better than this.

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Theoretically.

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We hoped for more.

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Yeah.

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So that's all to say that we will be live at Twitch.tv.

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Jordan will be joining me on tonight's show when you're listening to this, will be Monday.

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We will be live at 8 p.m. Central Time.

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But because of your work schedule with the comedy.

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That's 9 Eastern.

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Right.

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I think people can figure that out.

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It is 7 Mountain Time.

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It is 6 o'clock Pacific Time.

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You're very much underestimating our audience.

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5 o'clock, the middle of the Pacific Ocean Time.

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What time is it in Bucharest?

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It is...

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You don't know!

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It's 4.

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Okay.

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4 p.m. or 4 a.m., whichever you prefer.

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It's simultaneously both.

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Bucharest, Romania is a magical place.

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Exactly.

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So if you'd like to join us there, that would be wonderful.

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Because of your work schedule with the stand-up comedy this month, there will be other folks,

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like Matt Riggs will be coming in this week, and other folks to be determined.

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TBD!

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TBD!

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So I hope you'll enjoy that and come along for the ride.

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And then, yeah, as my schedule changes, I will be able to drop in more, but it still

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won't be, I can't be here every night, otherwise I'll go broke and die.

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And crazy.

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And as functionality increases, we'll be able to take phone calls, we'll be able to have

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you call in instead of having to come all the way over here.

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All the way over here from where my girlfriend lives, a block away.

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But be that as it may, Jordan, let's stop fucking around and get to the investigation.

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That's what people want to hear, they want to hear some Alex Jones.

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I don't know if they do.

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That would be a fun reaction, like a review on iTunes is like, too much Alex Jones, love

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the guys talking, hate it when Alex Jones talks.

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Why is this Alex Jones show?

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Play clips of him.

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So like I said, we're starting on the 27th, and this is coming off a good almost week

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of David Knight hosting while Alex is on a vacation, or meeting with people, it's unclear.

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He claims he was investigating something, but he never says what, and it's unimportant.

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The 27th, Alex Jones shows back up, and he gets on air, and it's one of the least inspired

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three hours of broadcasting I've ever heard in my life.

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He's come off vacation!

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Or investigation.

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If you look at my notes right here, this episode sucks.

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That's a great note.

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He keeps trying to get to news, but he just is like, I was walking around the mountains,

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and people love me.

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I was on vacation, and people just kept coming up to me and saying, Alex, you're great.

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I was just basking in the appreciation of the common people, i.e. you.

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Yeah, and so I don't have any clips of this episode, because it's terrible.

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And the episode ends, or at least a big part of the body of it, is an interview with a

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guy who's the vitamin lawyer.

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The vitamin lawyer.

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Yes, and it's all about how people are trying to make Alex's supplements illegal, and how

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they're fighting back against that.

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It's a long sales pitch couched as a legal PSA.

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So we skip everything in the 27th, and we move along to the 28th, which is where we

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will start in earnest.

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Alex Jones is hot on the PC brigade at this point.

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Oh no!

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People really don't like political correctness, Dan.

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They certainly don't.

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It's terrible.

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And so Alex starts off the show in that headspace, and he lists off a number of political correctness

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grievances that he has.

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I want you to keep track of how many of these are real.

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There basically is no free speech now on these campuses, and the young people are competing

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with each other to see who can destroy more language, who can call people out, who can

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dominate and control.

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It's a bunch of bullies.

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Ignorant bullies of every race, color, and creed who have joined this political correctness

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cult.

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And now it's going into overdrive.

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You're not going to dress as Caitlyn Jenner, well that's it, I am.

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You are not going to use brown paper bags, yes I am.

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You are not going to use the word mother or father, yes I am.

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You are not going to defend yourself, yes I am.

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You are not going to criticize Obamacare, we'll call you a racist.

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Well you know what, go ahead, I don't care.

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None of those are real.

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Okay.

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None of those are real things.

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When you hear people on campuses are competing to see who can destroy more of the language,

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what do you see?

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I remember when I was in college, I destroyed gerunds.

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No one was able to use any ing verbs.

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That's a good call.

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Yeah, I'm jumping.

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No you're not!

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I'll be goddamned!

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You say I jump!

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I have jumped!

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Use the passive voice!

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How dare you use active!

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I am in the process of a jump.

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Make it a noun, goddammit!

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That's what I did in college, you know, but maybe, I don't know, I was pretty successful

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at it, I'll say.

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I was a big fan of applying all scrabble rules, like you can't use any proper nouns whatsoever.

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I love it.

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I don't want anybody to know what they are talking about at any given point in time.

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No capitalizations in the middle of sentences, you sons of bitches.

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How dare you.

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Yeah.

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But I do, I meant Alex.

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Excellent summary.

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I do love how he starts out.

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I see a debate team, like a debate competition where you've got three people on either side,

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one of them walks up to a podium and is like, um, here is why we shouldn't use the word

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mother.

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Uh, cause it's dumb.

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Next.

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Ooh, counterpoint.

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Yeah.

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What do you got?

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Mothers are, uh, he's totally right!

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So I love, I don't think we should use the word mother and I will raise you.

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We shouldn't use the word mom either.

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Or boy and girl.

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Yeah.

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Oh no, absolutely not.

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But I love, I love how it starts out.

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You can't still use the plural though.

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Boys and girls.

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Yeah.

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Moms?

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Totally fine.

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I am so fascinated by this idea is like, you telling me you can't dress like Caitlyn

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Jenner?

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I'm gonna.

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Yeah.

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Why?

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I don't know.

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Wait.

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I don't think he does.

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So like in a dress?

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Yeah, yeah.

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I can't, people are saying that you can't mock trans people through costuming.

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And he's like, I will.

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He, he's, cause we're right around Halloween at this point.

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Oh, okay.

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That, that's why that was one of his examples and I cut out a ton of it, but he's on a real

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tear about misunderstanding why ethnic or minority group costumes are inappropriate.

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He's like, I like taco parties.

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Hey.

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Why can't I have a taco party?

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I like to have a, I like fajitas.

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Al Jolson was a great entertainer.

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All right.

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It's, it's more or less that.

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It's basically that.

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He's saying like, why are you saying I can't dress up like something?

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It's like, no, just don't, don't turn a group into a costume.

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Are you saying I can't criticize Obamacare otherwise I'm racist?

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No, we're not saying that.

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We're saying you're racist and also you are criticizing Obamacare.

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Totally separate things.

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Very, very different situation.

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Those are not related at all.

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Also no one has ever said you can't use a brown bag.

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They're just saying that the, you know, it was just a guy in Seattle who made a memo

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about the terminology brown bag was a, has a racially charged history.

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And that's true.

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You can still use brown bags if you want.

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Go ahead.

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No one gives a shit.

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It's not, it's not the brown bags themselves that are the problem.

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No, no.

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You can't, you can't be angry at a bag.

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No, we can't, we can't spend this much time on one clip.

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We got so much to get through.

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Okay.

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I'm so, I mean, look, are you telling me I can't defend myself?

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I will.

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I'm shutting down your language.

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Are you telling me?

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Let me tell you something.

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You know, it's a competition.

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Oh no.

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Yeah.

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This was the wrong approach.

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Hey Jordan, why don't you vamp more?

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I'll see you in hell before I vamp.

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Next clip.

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So in this next clip, Alex Jones has found out that the Southern Poverty Law Center has

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put out a new article and he has some thoughts about it.

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They have a new giant article I'm going to cover in the next segment, Al, from the Southern

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Poverty Law Center demonizing the conspiracy myths and bemoaning how dangerous they are

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and how they're taking over.

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Why?

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The imaginary situation of Agenda 21, it's called margins to the mainstream, the imaginary

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paradigm that there is an Agenda 21 to restrict resources.

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So the Southern Poverty Law Center put out a long article debunking a ton of Alex Jones's

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narratives but not specifically targeted at Alex Jones.

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These are these right wing narratives that are being pushed.

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Here is the truth about them, and Alex is furious about it.

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Of course.

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Of course.

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He already hates the SPLC and now it's just like, fucking fuck you guys.

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I love the conservative hate towards the SPLC because it's always like, hey, fuck you!

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And they're like, we support poor people and free speech and they're like, the fuck you

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do PC police, and they're like, no, just like the ACLU, we're very much-

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Oh, fuck them too!

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Fuck the ACLU!

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Like, no, the ACLU is great, they do a lot of good work, and they represent a lot of

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people who-

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Creeping communism!

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I'll see you in hell!

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Yeah.

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And so, I mean, we don't need to get too much more in depth about that, it's just, you know,

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he's starting to see people pay attention to the narratives that he puts out and push

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back against them.

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I think he's starting to get a little bit scared of his own position in the world.

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And that will-

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Because it is nonsense, and so is he.

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And he's aware of it.

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And the more people pay attention to him, I wish we were doing this show back then because

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I think that we could have pointed out much closer to real time how much he is just supporting

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Russia.

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Right.

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And I don't think people did a good job of expressing that back then.

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I don't think people were- you were telling me this earlier, which is, like, if it was

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something where it was much more prevalent on one broadcast, people would be more likely

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to pay attention to it.

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But because it's kind of just a small part of every broadcast, it's easy to kind of skip

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over it.

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Well, and because-

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And he says so many other crazy things, you're like, what the fuck is he talking about?

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Sure.

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And I think a lot of the things that he's praising Putin for are really adjacent to

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things that he- I mean, he does believe.

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Yeah.

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Theoretically.

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He just thinks that he's influencing Russia.

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Yes.

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That's the- that's the Marx belief.

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You know, when you're getting tricked, that's how you rationalize your being duped.

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Yeah.

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You think like, oh, no, I'm winning this three card Monty game.

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I won the first two rounds.

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Yeah.

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I'm fucking fleecing this guy.

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Oh.

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And then you turn around and he disappears.

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It's too easy.

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It's too easy.

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That's exactly what's going on to Alex.

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Right.

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And it's so fucking clear.

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I can't wait.

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There's a couple of clips that I have that I'm going to play that are fucking damning

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in this episode.

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Okay.

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But before we get to them-

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Yes.

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Here is a Mike Down clip out of the gate.

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Okay.

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Because this clip is fucked up.

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All right.

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This is Alex.

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It's- with the clips done, I'll explain why I think a piece of it is funny, but the rest

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of it is not funny at all.

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And it's Alex proving he's kind of a dick and, well, the story he tells might not be

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true also.

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That's possible.

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Probably.

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But if the story is true, he is a fucking dick and he needs to mind his own goddamn

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business.

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Oh, no.

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Every few days I hear some parent.

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I was at the gym yesterday and I heard somebody talking going, oh, it's terrible.

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Oh my gosh.

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And then the lady's friend said, what happened?

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Oh, such and such as baby just died.

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It was just a year old and it died.

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Yeah.

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She's written a letter to everybody about it.

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It died of SIDS.

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And I couldn't help, but I said, oh, you know, they're not supposed to really die for a few

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months.

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And I said, that didn't exist till the eighties.

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They used to take people's kids.

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They used to take people's other children when they had a sudden infant death.

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They'd claim it was shaken baby.

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Remember that?

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They go, yeah.

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I don't know anymore.

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First I get them to admit to something that they know.

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I go, yeah, you ought to ask them if they went in for their second round of shots then,

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cause you know, SIDS is closely associated in Australian government studies and others

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with the sudden death.

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It's not true.

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And one woman goes, yeah, I think I've heard about that.

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I said, yeah, I don't mean to get in your business.

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You're just talking about a dead baby.

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You might want to look into it for yourself and warn some people.

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And all the time I heard people talking about, yeah, I talked to Bob and he hadn't been to

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work in about a week.

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Yeah.

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There are babies in the hospital and I'll say, how old's that baby?

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Is the toddler?

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Yeah.

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18 months.

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Well, yeah.

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They did say that.

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Well, how do you know that?

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And I said, how do I know that?

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I said, you better look into it.

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Most autistic children are boys, about 80%, roughly 81% putting on the country.

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What does that mean?

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And they almost always go into the autistic decline at 18 months after they don't talk

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for a few days and lay in bed.

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The hospital, if you take them right back, they'll say, oh, that's just a normal side

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effect.

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Just keep them in bed.

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They're going to be fine.

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Well, that brain swells up and it bleeds in there.

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Getting that lobotomy feels real good.

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We've had the nurses on.

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It's come out in the news as well that they get those ERs ready with those preemies, seven

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months, eight months, six months.

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They're fine.

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They're breathing.

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They're getting better.

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And after they're there a couple of days, two days, the doctor comes in and says, it's

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time to give them the inoculations, full regimen, seven shots.

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And the nurses beg.

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They say, doctor, go back to the bioethics board.

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They're going to stop breathing.

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Some are going to die.

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And the doctor says, you know, policy and they give them their shots.

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Some die on the spot, others go on the respirators, but a lot of them can't make it because we're

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a loving country.

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We're a good country.

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That's insanely fucked up.

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He's relish.

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It sounds like he's jacking it, quite frankly.

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Why would you go up to a lady whose baby just died and we're like, Hey, I know your baby

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just died, but let me tell you why.

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And also I don't care about your baby.

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I just want to push my agenda.

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It is just a useful situation for me to lie to you.

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Now here's why.

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He is a fucking psychopath.

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He is.

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I want to discuss some of these lies here in a second, but first here's the part that

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I think is kind of funny.

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It creates in my head the idea for a cartoon where it's just Alex Jones wandering around

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his life, butting into people's business like, you guys talking about a baby?

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There is an image in my head.

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Oh, my baby's in the hospital.

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Is it 18 months?

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Yeah, exactly.

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I mean, something like that.

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Vaccines!

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Nosey ass anti-vaxxer cartoon Alex Jones is kind of funny to me, but in the real world

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it's not so funny.

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So a couple of things that we need to unpack.

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I love the idea that any time a baby goes into the hospital he thinks it's vaccines.

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Like do you not know that like babies are like, okay, fucking fine, Alex.

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Let's go back to when babies were stolen by fucking coyotes.

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Let's move on.

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I'm done with this shit.

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If you hate hospitals and medical science so much, just fucking don't go and shut the

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fuck up.

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A couple of the things that we should discuss, though, just in terms of his bullshit narratives.

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The idea that there are studies that have shown that SIDS is attached or in any way

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related to vaccination, there are a couple studies but they have been thoroughly debunked

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in terms of junk science.

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They didn't follow the scientific method at all, they drew conclusions that weren't there

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to be concluded.

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Yeah, that's not even a conspiracy theory.

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The vaccines cause autism is at least a thing.

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The vaccines kill your kid is dumb.

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And no doctor would give a premature baby seven shots.

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That gets to another interesting issue that a lot of people believe anti-vaccination things

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because of court cases that have been won by people whose children have been hurt by

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vaccines.

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And there's this thing called the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program and there's

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a vaccine court that was specially set up and this court is rigged in favor of people

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making complaints, intentionally so, because the government wants to pay people not to

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silence them but they want to make it easier for them to get compensation for being hurt

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by vaccines because there is negative side effects that can happen sometimes.

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I think that's probably good.

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This court doesn't necessarily need you to prove scientifically that the vaccine caused

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your baby to be hurt or to die.

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They just need to have a preponderance of the evidence like it's a civil court.

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And so there have been court cases that have come through the NVICP and people have taken

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it to mean science has proven this thing when in fact it's just something that was set up

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in order to compensate people for their loss without proving scientifically anything.

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Now this is something that's super interesting to me.

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Who pays?

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The government.

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The government?

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The government.

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I'm not going to read it that way.

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Here.

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I will read this here.

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So Alex, one of his big complaints is that whenever he talks about vaccines hurting you

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and killing babies, he's like, read the insert.

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Read the insert.

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It says it can cause diabetes or whatever.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Because there are...

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Possible side effects.

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Like there's that on an aspirin bottle.

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Yeah, exactly.

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If you take too much aspirin, you will die.

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But there is a no fault situation for vaccines in terms of like drug companies won't be held

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responsible for vaccines that hurt people.

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And that's done also intentionally by the government.

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Yeah.

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And I'll read this.

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This is from an article on ScienceBlogs.com that I found very fascinating.

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This is the history of that.

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In the early 1980s, in the wake of reports publicized by a news report and later a book

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by Harris Coulter and Barbara Lowe Fisher called DPT, A Shot in the Dark, that the whole...

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Those are raptor names.

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That the whole cell DPT vaccine was linked to encephalitis and brain damage, a flood

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of product liability lawsuits was on the verge of bringing the US vaccine program to its

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knees.

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Later studies exonerated the DPT, especially a large case control study.

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But those studies did not come out until the 1990s.

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Even though existing evidence at the time did not clearly support a link, it did not

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clearly rule one out.

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As a result, vaccine manufacturers had increasingly difficulty obtaining liability insurance.

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More and more of them stopped making whole cell DPT vaccines.

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Congress ultimately was forced to intervene and pass the National Childhood Vaccine Injury

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Act of 1986, which established a federal no fault system to compensate victims of injury

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caused by mandated vaccines.

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So there's a situation where people...

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Yeah, that's a good thing.

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There's a situation where people could not prove nor disprove a link between a vaccine

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and medical conditions.

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Right, but insurance companies just didn't wanna fucking wade into that.

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Exactly.

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Even though it's a medical necessity.

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When 10 years later, they proved that there wasn't a connection.

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In the intervening 10 years, you destroy companies, you destroy the progress of science, and tons

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of people could end up getting...

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Are you saying panicked dumb people might have taken down an industry?

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Who would've guessed?

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Right, or they didn't, but they almost did.

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And the government had to step in to create these courts and to create this no fault system.

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No regulations.

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So intentionally, they set it up so the people who make the vaccine wouldn't be punished

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in the off chance of these panics that they might not be guilty of, and the government

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would pay everything.

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Yeah.

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So it is an actually a good system.

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It is.

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It's a very good system that we have.

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But people use things that are found in these courts that are not scientific, they are just

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civil cases, basically, and they treat them as if they are science, and it's fucked up.

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Like the one that Coretta Scott King won against America for murdering Martin Luther

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King Jr.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So the other thing...

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Anyway, I'm just saying.

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The other big lie that Alex uses there is he says that 80 plus percent of autistic people

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are male.

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That is bananas.

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Well, this is also super interesting.

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If you look into it, the reason that there is a belief that most autistic people are

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male...

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It's sociological.

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It's just the way that we classify boys and girls differently.

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There's a two-pronged thing, and that's a piece of one of them.

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One of the issues is, in the early days of autism studies, almost everybody they studied

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were dudes.

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They were all males.

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That's how most scientific studies work now.

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But especially in the case of autism.

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And one of the reasons for that is because the way males express autism is incredibly

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obvious.

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The signs and symptoms are much more clear.

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There have been people who have theorized, this isn't proven or anything, but one of

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the leading theories about that is that women have, whether it's sociologically ingrained

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or it's innate, have a higher ability to mimic social cues.

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And they are able to know instinctively what's appropriate and not scream out and shit like

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that.

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And beyond that, studies have started to be done that are indicating that stuff like anorexia,

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nervosa, self-harm, social anxiety, these more feminine-related conditions...

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Hysteria.

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Well, no.

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I mean, all those things males can have, but statistically there is a higher incidence.

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In women, people are starting to understand and look at it from the perspective of, those

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are female autistic symptoms.

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Right.

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They may not be neurotypical.

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There's a great book you should read called Neurotribes.

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Okay.

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It's very good.

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It's about the history of autism.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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I would recommend that for everybody.

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Well, beyond that, those are some of the reasons Alex is lying.

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Yeah.

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So many reasons.

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He's full of shit, but also, more importantly, stay out of people's fucking business.

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Especially if their baby just died.

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And you're at the gym.

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Yeah.

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Just do your fucking lifts and get out of there.

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So that is Alex Jones' take on science.

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Now in this...

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Which is that it's not real.

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And he has no understanding of some of the nuances of it.

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And now, let's get to him discussing his science.

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Oh no.

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In terms of the products that he sells.

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Oh no.

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While we're figuring out what's going on with me and some other issues, I want to air a

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compendium of special reports that they did for the nightly news.

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Her and her good friend, Ms. Robin.

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Because it was their idea to try to check out the claims that we were making and what

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listeners were saying about the survival shield combined, of course, with the liver shield.

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And what that would do, they did the six-day cleanse on top of juicing as well.

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And the six-day cleanse is up on Infowarslife.com.

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And you take the Oxy powder, four to six tablets a day, just high-level oxygen that releases

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in your intestines.

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Don't take four to six tablets of anything.

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You take the liver shield's proprietary product in water four times a day with apple cider

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vinegar.

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And then on the sixth day, you drink seven ounces of virgin olive oil when you go to

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bed at night and lay on the side that your liver's on, your right side, for at least

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an hour.

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And then most people in the morning have spectacular results when green and black stones come out.

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What?

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I say most people, like 98% we told you, have results within two days.

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So that's...

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Green and black stones come out?

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Yep.

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As long as you drink six to seven ounces of olive oil and lay on your right side for an

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hour and you pray to the witch god.

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That's no good.

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And then of course on the seventh day you rest.

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Yeah, indeed.

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While the balls come out of you.

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Also, if you are on Lamictal, you should take four to six tablets a day.

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As do I.

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Also, talk to your doctor before you do this shit.

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Talk to your doctor any time green and black stones come out of you.

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Now the doctors want those to stay inside you.

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That's the thing.

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You don't talk to them about that.

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Oh, okay.

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You don't want to tell them?

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No, they're a bunch of snitches.

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What I would suggest you do, put them in a bag, bring them to your doctor and just put

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them right on his desk and be like, that's good.

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And then flip them off.

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Yeah.

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Uh, so, uh, he said at the beginning there, he's like, while we're trying to figure out

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what's going on with Leanne, uh, Leanne McAdoo has been sent to St. Louis where there is

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a fire burning underground near nuclear waste or something along those lines.

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Wonderful.

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They can never get her Skype going or that true.

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I don't know.

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I think I vaguely recall this story.

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I'm not sure if their angle on it is correct.

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I don't care because they can never get her Skype connection together.

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So they just keep being like, well, we'll go to Leanne and then they can't get her.

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So the Alex says over and over again, I didn't tell her to go there.

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She went on her own like as if like he thinks she's going to die when he's trying to clear

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himself.

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Yeah.

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Wait, what?

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It's just over and over again.

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Leanne's gone rogue and she's just going to St. Louis.

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Every single time he brings it up, he points out, this wasn't my idea because he thinks

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shit's going to go bad.

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It doesn't.

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And they can never get her on camera.

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Of course.

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So she's actually just in a bar across the street.

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It might as well have been.

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So they move on to another interview.

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Uh, on this day we have a visit from George Nori of Coast to Coast AM.

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All right.

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As we know, Coast to Coast AM is a show that's on overnight, uh, from, I think it's like

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midnight to 3 AM or something like that.

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And they talk about ghosts.

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They talk about aliens.

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They talk about ancient aliens.

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They talk about all that stuff.

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Pyramids full of grain.

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Probably talk about tulpas.

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Talk about golems.

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Probably talk about jinns, I imagine.

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You're just going through all Middle Eastern situations, huh?

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Yeah.

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Talk about the tarot.

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I assume.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Here's a guest on this episode and the reason he's on might surprise you.

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We have forgotten morality and what this country was all about.

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And I think it's just crazy, Alex.

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We've got to get back to our grassroots again as a nation and do things that are just common

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sense, right?

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I mean, which we're not doing anymore.

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The presidential push to try to get me to run for office.

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You are absolutely right.

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I am nonpartisan.

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I am not a Republican.

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I'm not a Democrat.

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Absolutely.

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I'm probably more a libertarian, but I'm generally independent.

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However, if you're going to run for president of the United States, you really have to be

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a Democrat or Republican on those parties.

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Look, they're about the same, right?

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Sure.

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But you have to do that because that's what garners the biggest votes.

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There has been a group that has asked me and wanted me to push for this to run.

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I did consider that.

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It's getting late.

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The clock is ticking.

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I would have to take a leave from coast to coast, and I'm not sure I want to do that.

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But I probably could get the nomination, the Democratic nomination, and then I'd either

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have to run off against Mr. Carson or Mr. Trump or maybe even Jeb Bush.

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Well, George, you've got the listeners, tens of millions of them that would actually come

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out and support you.

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You're a smart guy.

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You'd destroy them in the debates.

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Not a chance.

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Tens of millions of listeners for coast to coast AM.

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He does have a sizable listener base, but we went over the statistics on the Nielsen

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ratings of radio shows, and he doesn't have nearly that many listeners.

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He is going to easily win the Democratic nomination, of course, even though he is not a Republican

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or a Democrat.

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No.

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He's mainly a Libertarian, and we all know how Democrats love those.

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Love them.

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Love Libertarians.

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But he's mostly an Independent.

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He's non-partisan.

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He doesn't believe in reality, but he is non-partisan.

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Reality is a partisan issue.

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Here are a couple things that he believes that would fly super well with the Democratic

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party nomination.

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He's super into Blue Lives Matter.

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Makes perfect sense.

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He's really into anti-vaccination stuff.

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Everybody loves that.

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The left is thrilled with those positions.

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Oh, it's my favorite thing.

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You hear me yelling all the time about how we need fewer vaccinations.

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Need less oversight of police.

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Listen, guys, I'm going to announce my candidacy for president right now in 2020.

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My main platform will be bring back polio.

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That will be my main platform.

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Make polio widespread again.

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Can't make that an acronym that you can pronounce, but so George Norrie is on.

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He expounds some of his positions.

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One of them is get rid of the Fed.

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Get rid of income taxes.

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Perfect.

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Make it a sales tax.

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No fire stations.

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Uh-uh.

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It's very libertarian.

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If your house burns down, you better have a tip on hand for the fire department, otherwise

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you're fucked.

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Yeah.

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Do you remember, Dan, that there was a time in our history where there were actually competing

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fire departments in the same city that would allow your house to burn down?

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You had to...

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And if your neighbor bought fire insurance, they would protect your neighbor's house from

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the fire of your house?

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That's fucking insane.

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Competition.

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Oh, free market.

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Free market prosperity, Dan.

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I mean, that's one of the things that's so fascinating about libertarianism as a whole

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is like the elements of it we've done before.

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I know.

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All of the elements.

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We've done this.

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Yeah.

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You're wrong.

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Not because we can prove it scientifically or mathematically.

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We can just go back 50 years and be like, see, this is what happens when the dumb shit

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you believe is actually practice.

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No.

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And they're like, no, no, no, we'll figure it out.

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We've added technology.

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Yeah, yeah.

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No, we got it this time.

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Also, a huge piece of George Noory's campaign is about EMP defense.

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All right.

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Okay.

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Now I'm in.

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Okay.

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Now I'm in.

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That is a democratic position.

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He spends an inordinate amount of time talking about how vulnerable...

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He just watched Ocean's Eleven and he's like, that's how EMPs work, right?

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Something like that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So George Noory blows hard for a bit and then Alex gets to another interview that he has

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to end out the show, which is our friend Max Kaiser, who we know is the weirdo economist

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who has created MaxCoins.

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Yes.

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He has his own cryptocurrency.

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How's it doing?

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Here's how it's doing.

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Hey, Ed.

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To help people, Alex, I am giving away free money today at Startcoin.com.

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As a matter of fact, if you go to Startcoin.com, I'm giving away free money to your listeners

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all day as a way to introduce them to cryptocurrencies, which I think is the only way to preserve

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your wealth.

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So that's how it's going.

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It's not great.

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No, no, no.

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He's giving away free...

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He's giving away bucks that aren't even good at Disney.

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He's giving away magic money.

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Yeah.

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To give people in.

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It's very easy to give away worthless things.

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And let's be clear.

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I'm giving away this air.

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Everybody that goes to KnowledgeFight.com is allowed to have as much air as they want.

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I just want to get you guys into breathing.

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Sure.

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I want to make sure you're aware of it.

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That's big of you.

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Now, of course, after the first month, I will be charging you a stipend for a fee.

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There will be a small vig.

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There will be a small vig on the air you breathe.

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But I mean, that's pathetic.

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That's making it so obvious that this is not an appearance where we're going to be talking

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about anything substantial.

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This is fucking get on my currency.

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Right.

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And I know there's a ton of buy gold shit.

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So that is the only way to preserve your wealth is nonsense.

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Buy gold.

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He's trying to hawk gold also.

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Buy gold and then transfer it into max bucks.

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Yeah.

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Also, all these people who come on and say to buy gold, sell gold.

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Like Peter Schiff sells gold.

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That's odd.

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Yeah.

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I can't think of a reason for that.

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GCN, Ted Anderson, the guy who syndicates Alex Jones' show, sells gold.

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Hey, the guy from Hair Club for Men came on and sold.

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He's not just the guy.

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He's a member.

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He's a member.

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Not just the owner.

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I'm a member.

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He's a member.

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These guys aren't just selling gold.

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They're made of gold.

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Yeah.

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They're Midas.

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Yeah.

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So that's the end of October 28th.

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And we move along to October 29th.

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Something interesting happened on the eve of October 28th.

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And that is that CNBC had a presidential debate.

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They had a Republican primary debate.

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Oh, no.

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And if you recall, it didn't go well.

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It was a disaster.

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It was a huge disaster.

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It was a shit show.

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Yeah.

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So here's Alex Jones' take on it.

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There are moments in television, moments in media, where the full import of how big something

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is isn't understood for weeks, months, even years.

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But what we witnessed last night with the CNBC Republican debate moderated by CNBC is

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evident pretty much instantly.

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This is a Polaroid moment where you don't have to wait more than just a few seconds

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after the debate.

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I was sitting there watching it with family and children and even let my children stay

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up late to finish it and see the aftermath.

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And I asked my children, my 13-year-old son, my 11-year-old daughter, my 7-year-old daughter,

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while we were watching the coverage that Infowars was engaged in with David Naijikari Jackson.

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Don't do that.

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And of course, Joe Biggs and others.

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And my children said the reporters, that's what they called them, were reporters, they're

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really just pundits, were trying to bully and trying to attack and trying to make the

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Republican candidates look stupid, but they looked stupid.

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That's what Rex Jones, my 13-year-old, had to say about it.

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In-depth analysis from a 13-year-old.

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They made them look stupid, but they're stupid.

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Good work.

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Good work, Rex.

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Great.

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Go do your multiplication homework.

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Yeah, no kidding.

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I let my 7-year-old daughter watch one of the most homophobic, racist things that I

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could possibly allow her to watch.

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Well, but I mean, if you remember...

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A bunch of fuck faces fucking fighting to hate people more.

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That's what that debate was.

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But it was a contest to see who could destroy more language.

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That's what it was.

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But if you remember, those kids have been on Infowars before.

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So it's like you're way past that in terms of bad parenting.

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You're right.

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But Alex has more to say about this debate.

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That's not his...

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Oh, is he going to get into the substance of what they talked about?

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No.

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No.

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He's really going to get into the issues that they communicated?

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He's going to tell you what his 3-year-old kid thought.

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Okay.

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All right.

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No, that's not what he does.

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He wants to critique the media and how they behaved, and you can really tell there's something

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he wants to say but can't.

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They wanted to demonize the Republican Party.

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They wanted to demonize the candidates that weren't establishment.

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They would give softball questions to the Republicans that they know are part of the

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team while viciously attacking people they don't control.

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It was crystal clear that this was a rigged attempt to derail patriot candidates and instead

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it was a fiasco.

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It was a disaster.

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It was a train wreck.

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It was an implosion for the sycophantic media whores.

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This weekend I was hiking in the mountains of South Texas and it really hit me that we've

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had so many debates, so many calls, so many guests talk about what should we call the

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Decepticon mainstream, sewage stream, collaborator, prostitute, corporate media.

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I'm just throwing out a bunch of options.

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And it hit me.

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Straight talk is the answer.

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Straight labels that actually fit what something is is what we should go with.

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Fair.

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You don't call butter concentrated milk fat.

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You call it butter.

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How about another example?

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You don't call chocolate recondensed sugared cocoa powder.

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You call it chocolate.

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You got a third?

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You don't call a pile of horse manure on the side of the road some scientific name for

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the leavings of the equine species.

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You call it what it is.

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Way to bring it home.

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They are the enemy.

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Mainstream media is the enemy.

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They are the deceivers.

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They are the enemy propaganda arms of the major corporations that brag they've conquered

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this country.

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But they don't.

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I mean, they are collaborators.

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I mean, it's not entirely wrong.

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It's it's spiritually wrong.

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Not entirely.

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You know, they they are just giant corporate entities and the corporations have pretty

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much said we own you.

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So he's not it's not terrible.

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I mean, what his analysis of the debate is fucking stupid.

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You can be right for the wrong reason.

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Yeah.

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And that might be what you're pretty much every time we agree.

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It's like, Alex, you're an idiot.

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I agree with what you say.

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But what you mean is dumb.

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Yeah.

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I don't agree with what you mean.

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But your your literal point is correct.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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In a small way.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But I think he's pissed off.

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I really think that he's like he's that's where he wants to go.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He wants to go that far and he can't.

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Right.

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The other thing that's interesting to take away from that is that is a talking point

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that Donald Trump will pick up.

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Oh, yeah.

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So that's another that's an interesting little parallel there.

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I'm going to skip this.

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You remember, I will say the one thing that he is absolutely right about is that during

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the campaign, the media failed us on a level I don't think I've ever seen before.

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Big time.

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Like they are a big, big reason.

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All the all the blame we want to put on the fucking Nazis, they the media wanting a story,

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wanting a an interesting campaign, wanting that horse race is a big problem.

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And one of the big reasons that Trump was elected.

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Yeah.

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Is that they were capable of just asking Trump questions.

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Yeah.

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Like, like even now, if somebody just asked Trump what something means like Trump, what

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is what does DACA stand for?

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And he'd be like, oh, isn't that the other name for North Korea?

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Yeah, I don't know.

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Of course he doesn't know.

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He doesn't know fucking anything.

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And if you would adjust, if you would adjust, like, stop talking about how he sounded and

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started talking about how he knows fucking nothing.

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Yeah.

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Maybe we would have had a better shot.

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Yeah.

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But that's not what Alex is saying.

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No, of course not.

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Of course not.

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Just be can't process that.

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No, just because it has to be that they're lying about just because we both have critiques

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of the media doesn't mean we agree.

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Yeah.

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You know, that's sort of the place that we both critique corporations, but we definitely

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don't agree on why.

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Certainly.

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Yeah.

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So I'm gonna skip this next clip because it's just Alex saying that he got his dad to retire

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because of Obamacare and now he works for him.

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That makes sense.

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So now Alex Jones at Infowars has a CIA dentist working for him.

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Absolutely.

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You can always trust a CIA dentist.

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So in this next clip, Alex Jones contradicts himself within the span of a couple seconds.

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Wonderful.

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And it's fascinating.

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Because I don't have to sit here and tell my reporters what to report, what to write,

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what to say, because I just hire people that are already informed and love freedom.

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And they're just going to go out and report on what's happening.

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And that's what's so exciting about not having talking points.

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Wait for it.

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I mean, I do stuff like, hey, they're coming after the guns.

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Let's really stay focused on that this week.

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Or hey, TPP, they're ramming it through.

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Let's try to make that a big focus or talking points.

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It's not in the news right now that they're continuing to put veterans on don't treat

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death list.

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Let's go undercover and expose it.

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Talking points.

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Yeah.

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In that pause, all talking points in that pause that he had.

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He made a weird face.

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He was like, oops.

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It's wonderful that we don't use talking points.

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Admittedly, we use talking points.

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Admittedly, I tell my reporters exactly what to cover.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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They just love, I love that he's hiring people that love freedom.

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Yeah.

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Like I would hate it if he was hiring people who are fucking fascists.

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Sure.

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It would be crazy if he was hiring people who advocated harshly against any kind of

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oversight of the government.

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That would be terrible.

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Terrible.

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Oh, man.

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It would be terrible if he hired those people.

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His investigation is supposed to be about how Alex Jones ended up where he is in the

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presidential campaign.

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Yeah.

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And as such, we need to cover some of the stuff that I don't want to cover about this

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debate because these clips, I don't like to listen to Ted Cruz talk.

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Steal yourself because we're going to have to listen to Ted Cruz talk a little bit in

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this next clip and we can critique it on the other side, but it's interesting to hear how

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Alex treats Ted Cruz at this point in history.

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He has a boner for him.

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Of course.

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I'm going to go to your calls, but let's start playing some of these clips.

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This is Ted Cruz blast corrupt mainstream media.

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He kind of set the tone and he pointed out he is a leader.

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I have to admit he's done some stuff I don't like, but going after the abortions, going

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after the open borders, going after the gun grabbers, going after Obamacare, going after

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not supporting ISIS, that he still supports going after Assad.

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That's the problem.

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I got to say, Ted Cruz, I know Rand Paul's.

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I'll say he's better, but Ted Cruz, despite problems, really has delivered.

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Let's go ahead and go to this Ted Cruz clip.

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Here it is.

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Delivered so fast.

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Senator Cruz, congressional Republicans, Democrats in the White House are about to strike a compromise

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that would raise the debt limit, prevent a government shutdown and calm financial markets

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that fear of another Washington created crisis is on the way.

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Does your opposition to it show that you're not the kind of problem solver American voters

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want?

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You know, let me say something at the outset.

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The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the American

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people don't trust the media.

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Kill me.

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We'll get back into the fucking kill.

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We'll get back to this clip in a second, but let's really let me let me say something.

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The question that I was asked, I don't want to answer because I had a big part in forcing

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a government shutdown.

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Yeah.

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It was kind of one of my big things.

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One of the big things I did.

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I really don't want to address that.

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One of the big things I did was lower the credit rating of the entire country.

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Right.

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Through my petulance and hatred of a black president.

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You know how everybody's complaining about the national debt.

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I have ensured that it will be higher.

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Now.

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That is me.

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In fairness to Ted Cruz, in ultimate fairness, that question was phrased a little aggressively.

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It was a dumb question.

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Don't get me wrong.

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The weight of the question is valid.

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It's worded a little bit like, hey, I'm not, I'm not impartial here.

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The government is functioning.

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Are you trying, while the government is functioning, people like it.

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You don't want the government to function.

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Are you an asshole?

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You seem to want to grandstand in such a way that will make the government not work.

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Does that preclude you from being a leader?

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And because he can't answer that question, he has to grandstand and flip it on the media.

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Right.

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And that's clearly what he's doing.

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Oh, God.

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Transparently.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And he gets a giant applause break because everybody at the Republican debate is fucking

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stupid.

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Yeah.

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So now let's jump back.

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That's right.

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Get him back.

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This is not a cage match.

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And you look at the questions, Donald Trump, are you a comic book villain?

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Ben Carson, can you do math?

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John Kasich, will you insult two people over here?

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Yes.

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Marco Rubio, why don't you resign?

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Jeb Bush, why have your numbers fallen?

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How about talking about the substantive issues people hear?

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Cruz is the best on the street I've ever seen of any statesman.

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He is the best.

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Hands down.

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I fucking hate you, Ted Cruz!

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Carl, I'm not finished yet.

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The contrast with the Democratic debate, where every fawning question from the media was,

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which of you is more handsome and wise?

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So this is the question about the Ted limit, which you have 30 seconds left to answer,

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should you choose to do so.

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Look at that arrogant little...

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Let me be clear.

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The men and women on this stage have more ideas, more experience, more common sense

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than every participant in the Democratic debate.

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The debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.

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And nobody watching at home believes that any of the moderators has any intention of

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voting in a Republican primer.

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The questions that are being asked shouldn't be trying to get people to tear into each

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other.

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It should be, what are your substantive solutions to people who have heard it mentioned?

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I just want the record to reflect, I asked you about the dead limit, and I got no answer.

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You didn't ask a real question, punk!

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I need you to consume your time.

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Carl, let me tell you how the question is.

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Let me tell you how that question is.

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Let me tell you how that...

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Carl, I've got a question for you on the same subject.

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So you don't actually want to hear the answer, John?

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Senator Paul...

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You don't want to hear the answer, you just want an insult to the insult.

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You used your time on something else.

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Senator Paul...

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So you're not interested in an answer to a deal...

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I'm interested in an answer from Senator Paul.

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Senator Paul, the budget deal crafted by Speaker...

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Oh, that's enough of that.

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I skipped the break, this is just so important.

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This is how they tried to control the narrative.

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No, that's how people act like babies.

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That's how he tried to control the narrative.

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Yeah, exactly.

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He asked a question, and then instead, he controlled the narrative!

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That's what he did!

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Right.

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The moderator asked a bad question, but it was still like, hey, talk about the debt ceiling.

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And he was like, the media's bad!

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And you're like, okay.

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And then your time is up, because you're a fucking idiot, you're a child, so you're going

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in time out!

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That's what he did!

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Right.

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It's a situation where, sure, the question might have been framed poorly or presented

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poorly, but it gives an opportunity for you to rise above it and defend yourself about

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this issue that clearly a lot of people think you're a fucking dick about.

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And so he refuses to do that, instead plays victim, and then even to the end, when the

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time is up, he plays victim, saying, oh, I can answer it, because he knows that they're

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not going to give him more time.

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Of course not.

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He gets to play the victim of like, oh, look, I had a great answer about that, but you guys

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are being fucking dicks.

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You don't want to talk about substance.

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I just wasted a minute yelling about how everyone on this stage is a victim, because we're all

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super rich white dudes, except Ben Carson was a super rich black dude, and Carly Fiorina

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was there, I think.

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Who's even more super rich than the rest of them?

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But she's a white lady, so you know.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, we don't need to worry about that.

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We've got our demographics.

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You guys just want us to insult each other.

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You don't want to ask us substantive questions.

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Admittedly, the question you just asked me was great.

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It was substantive.

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But I am not going to answer it.

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I am instead going to whine like a tiny, fuck Ted Cruz.

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Ted Cruz is the nails on a chalkboard as a human being.

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There legitimately should not be live audiences, I think, for these debates.

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That's a mess.

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Because you can just pander and do shit like that.

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And even that, if you have time, if you're trying to answer a question, why are you stopping

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for applause breaks?

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You're not using your time properly.

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Yeah, but also, you missed it, because you were screaming.

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I was very angry.

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But Alex in the middle of that says, Ted Cruz is the best on his feet of any statesman I've

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ever seen.

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Oh my god, kill us all.

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Consider that within six months, he will join in on the Ted Cruz's dad killed JFK.

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Well that's true.

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That's just a fact.

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He will go that far that quickly.

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That's amazing to me.

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That doesn't amaze me at all.

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When you don't believe in anything, you don't have to worry about whether or not your positions

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are consistent, because you don't have any positions.

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So we have one more clip that we've got to get through of this debate shit, and it starts

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with Alex screaming about Melissa Harris Perry, because she's black.

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There's that part.

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But also, as I recall, the setting was confirmation hearings for Paul Ryan to be the speaker.

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And Alex is spinning a real fun yarn about that, because he's taking credit for Boehner

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stepping down.

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All of us Tea Party, Liberty people, we forced him out, and we're going to get one of our

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guys in there because we have momentum.

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Now Paul Ryan gets in and he's like, nah, this doesn't mean that we didn't put him in,

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but he's on a short leash.

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Yeah.

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You idiot.

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It's so clear that like, oh no, Boehner wanted to step down.

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He wanted to get out of there.

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Boehner was sick of that shit.

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And he's very smart.

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And he was very smart.

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He clearly had a million dollar offer on the table.

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So Alex is really...

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I could get shit from lunatics all day, and get shit from other sane people all day, or

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I could leave and get millions of dollars.

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And no one will care what I'm doing.

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And not have to worry about anything.

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I would take that option.

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Of course.

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So in the confirmation hearings, they're talking about Paul Ryan and someone says that he's

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hard working.

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And Melissa Harris-Perry stops to say like, well, I agree with you and I think Paul Ryan

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is a good choice, but whatever I think of the word hard working, I want to be careful

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about language because it brings up to me an image of slaves in a field.

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And that is the definition of hard working for me.

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What I think she was getting at, first of all, I don't necessarily agree with how she

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makes up this point.

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I think that might be a little bit of a linguistic stretch in terms of bringing unrelated issues

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in and what have you.

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But I think the point that she's making is, hey, all of us, we're not really that hard

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working in the grand scheme of things.

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Let's try and be clear about what we do.

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I think that's what she's saying, but I'm not going to go to bat for her 100%.

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But Alex is furious about it.

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So he starts ranting here and it goes a couple minutes and then weaves into some Ben Carson

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stuff in the debate.

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And it's really important that we get the entire context leading up to this because

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where it ends and what's making Alex really mad is fascinating and we'll get to it in

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a second.

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If they get angrier and if they get in the scum's face and if you get in the scum's face

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and stop letting them dictate to you like Melissa Harris Perry does, that if you say

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somebody's a hard worker, you're disparaging black slaves, you need to say, listen, witch,

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quit trying to stir up racism.

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How dare you connect words to racism like you control the language.

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What type of cult leader do you want to be?

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You freak.

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You're going to tell me I got to drink barbiturates and vodka and go lay in bunk beds to go join

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the Hale-Bopp cult.

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You little bug eyed nobody.

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We're sick of being dominated by trash like you, you piece of garbage.

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Break their control over you, break their spell over you.

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Break the conditioning.

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This is like Gary Oldman and Leon the Professional.

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The heavens are the seal of God's creation.

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The sun, the moon, the stars all bear God's seal.

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Nice pivot from you, Jesus.

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And realize these people aren't God.

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God is God.

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These people aren't our gods.

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Melissa Harris Perry isn't some god who tells me what to do.

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You have no audience, witch.

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All you've got your cult programmers and educators in the colleges and public schools that will

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vomit back whatever you say because they are already dead.

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So yeah, you do have an audience.

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You totalitarian.

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I am the liberal.

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Sure.

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I am the pro-human.

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I am the pro-freedom.

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Not you.

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My audience carries the light of the Republic.

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Not you.

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You carry nightmare Soviet-style brainwashing.

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You are a clear and present danger to this country with the rest of your company of enemies.

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You are the filth of the planet, and I'm not stupid.

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I know full well you're capable of self-inflicted political wounds to then roll back clips of

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what I have to say here.

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The difference is when you people pull off your garbage, everybody knows who the prime

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suspects are.

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It certainly isn't us.

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I will annihilate you with information.

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I will destroy you with your own words.

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I don't need violence.

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I don't want any harm upon you.

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I want a little long failed life watching humanity succeed and our children become strong

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and living together in true human advancement.

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No blacks though.

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That's what I want to see.

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And that's what you don't want to see as a social engineer, eugenicist, garbage pusher.

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Let's go to debate.

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Audience boos.

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CNBC moderators question to Ben Carson.

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Let's play this little luscious giblet.

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This is a company called Manatec, a maker of nutritional supplements with which you

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had a 10-year relationship.

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They offered claims that they could cure autism, cancer.

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They paid $7 million to settle a deceptive marketing lawsuit in Texas, and yet your involvement

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continued.

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Why?

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Well, that's easy to answer.

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I didn't have an involvement with them.

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That is total propaganda.

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And this is what happens in our society.

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Total propaganda.

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I did a couple of speeches for them.

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I did speeches for other people.

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They were paid speeches.

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Yes, I did have involvement with them.

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It is absolutely absurd to say that I had any kind of a relationship with them.

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Do I take the product?

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Yes.

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I think it's a good product.

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You're advertising now?

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Their website with the logo over your shoulder.

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If somebody put me on their homepage, they did it without me.

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How dare you be involved with supplements?

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Does that not speak to your vetting process or judgment in any way?

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No, it speaks to the fact that I don't know that it's going to...

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Great job, audience.

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See, they know.

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People don't want to go buy a product when the FTC goes after it, or the FDA.

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Absolutely.

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I've seen the news reports.

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I've talked to the company owners.

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When they come after you, shells explode.

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People know trash.

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They know who you are.

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They know you hate them.

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They know you got bad will.

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We hate you.

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We see you, Phil.

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We know you're killing babies.

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We know you're aborting them.

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We know you're selling their body parts.

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We know.

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We know.

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We know you don't like us.

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Well, we don't like you either.

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Got that?

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You want to fight, you little bastards?

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You're going to get one!

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The sleeping giant is rising!

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Yes!

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Break the chain!

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So it's good to know that he's doing that on purpose.

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Wow.

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You know, all that?

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That was some good screaming.

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I mean, we went over that, I think, in the last episode.

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I mean, he admits that's all fake, that he's just screaming stuff, and he doesn't really

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care.

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The sleeping giant has awoken!

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Yeah.

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It's not hard.

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He hits off air during the little 70-second commercial break, gargles with a little salt

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water.

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Yeah.

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Back on it.

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So the thing there, I think the reason that he's really mad is because the context that

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Ben Carson is being critiqued about is a nutritional supplement company, and he knows that that's

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what he does.

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And he knows that he's kind of vulnerable.

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One scam goes down, and all the other scams start falling.

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So Ben Carson was involved with Manatec for a very long time.

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He did a couple of paid speeches for them.

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$42,000 for one of the speeches he got paid, which is more than I make in a year.

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He wasn't involved.

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So Carson first spoke -

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Sure, it was on his website.

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But whoever did that did it without his permission.

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No, that was their website, not his website, to be fair.

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But this is from an article in The Atlantic.

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Carson first spoke out in favor of Manatec products over a decade ago when he claimed

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that the Texas-based company's glyconutritional supplements, which included larch tree bark

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and aloe vera extract, help him overcome prostate cancer.

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In one video for Manatec last year that remains online, Carson discusses his experience with

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nutritional supplements while seated next to the company's logo.

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Quote,

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The wonderful thing about a company like Manatec is that they recognize that when God made

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us, he gave us the right fuel, Carson explained, and that fuel was the right kind of healthy

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food.

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Basically, what the company is doing is trying to find a way to restore a natural diet as

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a medicine or as a mechanism for maintaining health.

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That doesn't sound like an unbiased person.

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Now, when God made us, he also did give us cancer.

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That is true.

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Prostate.

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The human body will break down and eventually turn against itself and murder itself.

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But if you just take some aloe vera, man, you're done.

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You're good.

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That's such, how do you get away with lying like that and then lying like that on stage

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and then people booing somebody being like, hey, you clearly didn't say anything.

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If you don't have any involvement with them, why is your picture on their website?

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Maybe you should say something and everyone's like, boo, how dare you make a good point?

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The reason that they booed, I don't know why I need to just be super clear about it, but

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the reason they booed is because the question was, doesn't that indicate bad judgment on

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your part?

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Yeah.

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Which, I mean, I mean, that's dishy.

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Doesn't it?

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But yeah.

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Doesn't it?

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I guess.

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But Alex Jones is pissed off because Manatec is also a direct sales operation, wherein

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you buy a bunch of products and sell it to your friends.

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They're also a multi-level marketing campaign?

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And so is Info Wars.

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Holy fucking shit.

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So is Info Wars life.

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It's all pyramid schemes.

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Alex Jones has a pyramid scheme operating out of Info Wars that he runs.

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And so Manatec is incredibly similar to the Info Wars supplement line.

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And he knows it.

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It's a good thing it's an unregulated industry.

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Right.

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He knows it and he knows how vulnerable he is.

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If people start discussing it and you start looking at this stuff, realize how much of

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a fucking scam it is, his house of cards could unravel very quickly.

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And so of course he's going to get mad, say that the MSM is the enemy and they're trying

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to attack people unjustly.

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And he...

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Dr. Carson, you're a surgeon.

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Why is it that you don't believe in science?

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Dr. Carson, you're a weirdo.

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End of question.

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End of question.

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So also in this episode, Alex Jones has a lengthy discussion of cucks.

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He talks about cuckolding.

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And I just...

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He fucking loves it.

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I left it out just because it's like, well, this is getting repetitive and we got a lot

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of ground to cover.

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But if you want to go and listen to that piece of the episode, it's not worth it.

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If you want to go and get cucked.

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So up to this point, there's been a marked lack of discussion of Russia for where we've

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been in terms of the last two weeks or so of Info Wars coverage.

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But don't worry, that's just because he wanted to cover the debate.

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He's getting back into it.

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There shouldn't be guns openly at boot camp because people don't know how to use them

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yet.

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The restricted areas on the range are with proper trainers.

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I've studied it.

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Haven't been in the military, but I've studied it.

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And everybody should have them all the time.

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I get not having a bunch of recruits who might flip out.

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They're being tested.

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There's going to be some mentally ill people.

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That's why you're putting them under pressure to find out what they'll do under pressure.

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That's why they do that at boot camp.

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But frankly, boot camp isn't probably strong enough now like it used to be because of political

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correctness.

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The Russians kill people in boot camp routinely.

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That's what used to happen in our boot camps.

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And that's because you're there to learn what war is going to be like.

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Great.

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Russian boot camps are awesome because they kill people.

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You know what I love about my fighting force?

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Making sure there are fewer of them.

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And also making sure that you don't want to go to a boot camp because you might die.

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Also making sure the ones that do make it out are probably psychologically wounded by

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the fact that their friends died in training.

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Oh, love it.

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Yeah.

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I want PTSD before the actual fighting starts at all.

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PTSD among the cooks.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Among the people who aren't even in the shit.

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Oh, they might lose their minds.

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If it weren't for political correctness, we would still be murdering our own military.

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And Russia does it, and they're great.

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They're great.

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That's his example.

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You can see how great they are.

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They have such a wonderful military filled with people who are no.

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They're happy.

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They're happy.

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Yeah, sure.

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They're alive.

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So, at the end of this episode, Alex has an interview with his intrepid reporter, Wayne

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Madsen.

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He's the guy who brought us the hot story about Hillary Clinton's chef being murdered

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and having a letter pinned to him that said, call Larry Nichols.

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That's great.

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So, there's that.

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Love it.

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Yeah.

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Wayne Madsen has cracked the case of 9-11.

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Okay.

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It turns out that in Arizona, there is a hangar.

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There's like an airfield, and he's convinced that this is where they turned planes into

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remote control drones.

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He has no evidence of it.

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It is just speculation, and they treat it as gospel.

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I knew it was going to be Arizonans who caused the problem.

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And he talks about this, and then like two days later on the show, they play a report

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of him in Arizona, and they think it proves anything, and it doesn't, except that it's

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clearly very easy to get onto this airfield.

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They try and play it up.

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That's not good.

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They play it up like it's like no one has ever been here without getting killed.

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Fucking fat Wayne Madsen's just walking around with a camera, and there's clearly a camera

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guy with it, but they're just walking around like, right over here, you see an airplane?

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Like, what are you doing?

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That's not good.

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You're invalidating your own argument.

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I'm very unhappy with that airbase.

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If they are turning planes into drones and their security is that lax, it's like, come

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on guys.

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No, but this is like 16 years later or whatever.

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15 years later.

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Oh, okay.

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It's now transferred ownership.

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Right.

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I think it's a run-down airbase at this point.

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Okay.

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All right.

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But anyway, it's a load of bullshit, and I don't really care.

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So we now move on to October 30th, and this I believe is where some shit gets really serious.

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Some shit gets fucking super serious.

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Here we go.

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The sun is the main driver of climate.

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I don't care if the UN passes resolution saying it doesn't affect climate.

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It's the main driver, and the only thing that's constant is change.

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So first it's freezing, global cooling.

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Then by the late 80s, it's global warming because we were in a little warming uptick

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in the larger cycle.

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And then when it started cooling again in the last 15 years, first the increase in temperature

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slowed, then it stopped.

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Now it's been declining for about a decade.

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That's numbers across the world on average.

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Not true.

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But there's some record high temps, some record low temps, always in all the little micro

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climates around the world.

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So now they just say, you know what, we can't lose if we say climate change.

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Cause the climate change.

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With all the huge news I've got today, I open up with that because Vladimir Putin has come

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out in a speech and in a Politburo statement that we have linked on infowars.com, red linked

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because this is such a big deal.

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Putin anthropogenic climate change is a geostrategic weapon.

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Globalists want to undermine Russia's thriving energy sector and every other country's energy

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sector or private energy sector not controlled by the globalist.

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And Putin 100% hits the nail on the head.

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No other major political leader will do this.

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Russia had been even going along with the fraud.

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But now they're breaking with the globalist on every front.

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Oh boy.

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Oh boy.

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You just, I just can't listen to that right now.

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It's tough.

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There are three hurricanes.

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Yeah.

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Simultaneously.

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And a fourth if you just go a week in the past.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Just fucking destroying everything.

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And you listen to these people who have denied it for so long and you're like, look at all

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the damage you've done.

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Yeah.

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Look at all of the fucking damage you've done.

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And you look at the predictions that were made like, you know, 10 years ago or so and

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we're pretty much matching up with what's happening in front of our eyes right now.

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Yeah.

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But.

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How did we not know, Dan?

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I don't know.

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How, how could we not have, how could we have missed this?

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This is.

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I mean sure the oil companies themselves knew and made sure that everybody denied it.

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And so they could continue murdering everybody.

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And sure Putin has a lot of financial interest in that world.

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No.

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In the fuels.

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Anthropogenic climate change is a hoax.

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It's a weapon.

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It's a weapon to undermine Russia and the, the, the private energy sector.

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Fuck you.

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Russia has.

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Is it possible for us to collectively sue?

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I feel like we should be able to sue the oil companies, right?

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Yeah, probably.

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Like all the people in Houston should.

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Yeah.

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We can link, we can definitely link all of this damage to climate change.

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We can definitely prove that they knew that they were causing climate change and that

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they knew that this was a result of that.

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So I'm pretty sure that they should be shut down.

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Jordan, that's, that's sued to oblivion.

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This is one thing and I'm, I'm on board with you, but in terms of our investigation, it's

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more important that Alex is being fooled by Putin's stance on it.

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Yeah.

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Well, I don't think he's being fooled by Putin's stance on it.

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I think so.

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It just dovetails nicely into the climate change denial that they've always had.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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Take that away from it.

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Take the climate change part of it out of it.

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Alex is being tricked into thinking Putin is smart and a good leader by Putin taking

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a position that Alex agrees with for the reason that, I mean, Putin has a strategic reason

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to deny climate change in the same way.

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Very direct financial reason.

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Exactly.

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In the same way that these oil companies do.

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Absolutely.

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He has the exact same financial interest.

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Yeah.

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And so because he doesn't want to lose these billions and trillions of dollars that he

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could be making if sanctions were lifted, he is super against climate change.

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Odd.

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And because he takes that position, Alex already agrees with it, he's sucked more into Putin

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is a genius.

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He's a great leader.

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Right.

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This position that he already was flirting with of being very super into Russia is now

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just going fucking whole hog.

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For full force.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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Listen to this next clip.

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I say just come in.

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We got to have world government to save us.

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Then it was global warming.

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Then it's climate change.

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Period.

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Vladimir Putin has come out and said anthropogenic climate change is a geostrategic weapon.

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Kurt Nemo and Boris.com is big time because Russia's breaking with the globalist on every

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front.

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They didn't go along with carbon taxes before and said they weren't sure it was real.

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Now they're saying, look, it's meant to shut down all major industrial economies, not controlled

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by the IMF and World Bank.

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To have a major world leader who's made the world bipolar again, not unipolar in its power.

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That's offensive to my people.

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Do I want to say multi-polar?

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To have Putin come out and say exactly what it is is a devastating blow against the new

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world order.

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This is cause for celebration.

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And Putin just went up another notch in my view because you know I don't trust him and

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know what he was part of and all the rest of it.

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The point is he's telling the truth.

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He says they want to break up our families.

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They want to destroy our cultures.

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They want to get rid of our sovereignty.

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They want to override us.

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They want to sabotage the human condition.

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This is a genetic takeover.

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I mean the Russians do listen to this show.

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I was told by the head of RT America, some stuff that just sounds so unbelievable, but

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who would have thought Matt Drudge would show up here?

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You know, who would, who would think top generals, you know, the former head of special forces

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has been on two different heads of special forces.

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I mean we have the big listeners and yes, the Russian government listens to the show.

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Then I was told that by RT International, one of their main heads, I'll leave it at

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in a Skype interview where I was told it was a Skype interview and it wasn't a Skype interview.

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Once they cut to me, they started interrogating me in a big table with a bunch of top Russians

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at it asking me questions and then they had been threatened and never had me back on RT

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by the US government.

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They were basically asking me who I was, who I worked for, how I could do certain things

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and they were asking me if I was a US government agent or who I work for and I said, I work

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for Liberty, but that's the level I met where like a James Bond movie, it's not RT.

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It's a big table in a government building with a bunch of guys staring at me and I see

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them on TV sometimes and it's like Russian, you know, leaders.

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Putin listens to the show is the point and I'm not giving us all the credit, but when

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the signal goes out that this is an anti-human shutdown program for austerity, it's game

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over for the new world order.

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It's game over.

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So we have to tell it like it is, it's a plan to kill us.

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It's a weapon system to selectively cut off the energy.

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Do you understand what just happened?

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Do you understand what he just admitted on air?

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That's fucking crazy.

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Do you realize that's fucked up?

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He just, so I was interviewed by top Russians and they turned me into an asset.

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I should not have said that on air.

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He just admitted like basically that is where the compromise is.

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Yeah, of course.

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And you know what happened.

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They literally shut off the camera and were like, oh, we can use this guy.

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Like that was that simple.

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You know what happened in that interview too?

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They told him that Putin listens to his show and that he's a genius.

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That's how they compromise people.

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It's easy.

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Through flattery.

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It's not hard.

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That's how you make an asset out of someone like Alex Jones.

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Steve Puchenik said it on the last episode, paranoid, delusional people are super easy

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to manipulate.

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That is what Alex Jones is.

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He just admitted on air that top Russians tricked him into thinking he was having a

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Skype interview with RT and then grilled him and debriefed him.

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That's insane.

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No, that's fine.

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This is game over.

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No, it's fine.

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This is proof.

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It's proof that he's the worst spy in the history of the world.

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I was debriefed by the German military and it's totally fine.

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I should not have said that.

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I should not have said that on air.

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I am a bad spy.

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That's where that horn kicked in.

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When I heard that, I was like, I just didn't know what to do.

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How do you deal with that?

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How do you deal with a guy who can be that open about it too?

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Well you keep him on the outside.

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You keep him on the, you don't tell him shit unless he, and you deal with like multiple

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layers of handlers.

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That's why like Steve Pacenik is clearly feeding him his narratives and then there's probably

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a third stage that gets him back to the Kremlin or whatever.

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You make it so Alex Jones doesn't think that the people who are feeding him narratives

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are the ones who are taking narratives from Russia.

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That way he's like, no, Steve Pacenik's just a great dude.

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He thinks I'm awesome because he flatters me every time he's on the show.

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It's fucking nuts.

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This is so fucking obvious.

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And the other thing that's interesting about that is that RT was in on it.

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Yeah, of course.

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The idea that they set up an interview with RT and then it's actually spies from high,

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like high end Russians.

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That means that RT is way more of a state outlet than Alex is willing to admit.

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No.

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That's fucking nuts.

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Anti-globalist.

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No.

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This is so problematic.

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It is.

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It is kind of weird.

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He's making the subtext text.

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That's a big issue.

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Like even the Russian government is trying to be like, no, RT is a media outlet.

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It's not a state-sponsored propaganda outlet.

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And he's just like, hey, it's a state-sponsored propaganda outlet.

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And not only that, they use it to cultivate people.

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Yeah, I know.

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Like what the fuck are you doing?

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You don't need an investigative journalist when one of the guys is whistleblowing by

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accident.

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He is proudly revealing that he is now officially an asset of the Russian government.

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Well that's the same thing that he does with his sources.

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He accidentally out- It's Donald Trump Jr. actually.

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He does that stuff all the time.

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He can't help himself because he's on air for three fucking hours a day and he's beaked

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out on his fucking supplements that maybe should be regulated.

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So he's fucking high out of his mind on super male vitality and brain force and then he's

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just like, I need to talk about this time that I got fucking recruited.

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I know.

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That's fucking insane.

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The other piece of it that you need to unpack is I don't know if he realizes it.

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Of course he doesn't.

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He's telling this story.

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I don't think he realizes how fucked up this story is.

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I don't think he realizes what he revealed.

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It's like the only reason- because that almost certainly has happened to members of Donald

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Trump's campaign.

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Sure.

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Which, again, you are supposed to report that to the FBI.

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That way they can deal with that.

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There's a lot of possibilities that some of the people were willingly cooperating with

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Russian folk and then there's a lot of people who probably got sucked in by accident.

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Got tricked into a meeting or something like that.

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And you are, again, supposed to report that to the FBI.

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And Alex should have fucking reported that.

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Absolutely!

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Just the base description that he's giving on air, he fucking 100% should have been like,

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now listen, I don't know what's going on but I got tricked and ended up talking to high

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level Russian government officials.

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They were grilling me about whether or not I work for the government.

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It's that, like, when he talks about being in a James Bond novel, he's kinda correct

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but he's not James Bond.

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No!

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He's some real fucking stupid patsy.

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He's the limo driver for James Bond.

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No, he's not even that.

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He's somebody who gets flipped by the enemy.

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He's someone who gets flipped by Goldfinger or something like that.

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It's so crazy.

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It's like Homer Simpson in Scorpio.

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Now I know that we could probably talk about that clip for an hour, but it's more fun if

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we just play this next clip because it's even worse.

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Let's continue here now, shifting gears.

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Putin, I mentioned this last hour, it's red linked up on Infowars.com, but it really is

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ultra massive news.

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Putin has come out and said man-made climate change is a geostrategic weapon to kill populations

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and destroy sovereign nations and to selectively shut down corporations not part of the inside

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global cartel.

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And the fact that Putin's now talking about the exact reality is a devastating shot across

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the bow because Russia obviously already knows all this, but as more and more of this comes

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out, as Vladimir Putin becomes the Alex Jones of the world, in fact the only person I guess

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that could get bigger than me in being a conspiracy theorist, that is reading documents, knowing

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reality, and exposing exactly what's going on would be a Matt Drudge.

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But who could dwarf Matt Drudge is Vladimir Putin.

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So I guess it goes Putin, Matt Drudge, Alex Jones, that's the, I'm like the mini me now.

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Oh no.

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This is really getting weird.

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It is very weird.

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It's really getting weird.

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I'm sure Matt Drudge probably doesn't want you bringing him into this.

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No, no, no.

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So it's Putin shits in Matt Drudge's mouth, Matt Drudge shits in Alex Jones's mouth, and

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Alex Jones works for Russia now!

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And so does Matt Drudge, probably.

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Seems like it.

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And every piece of evidence that we can come up with, they're clearly at least aligned

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in some way.

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Oh, of course.

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And Alex is externalizing that.

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He's externalizing the network in terms of like saying that Matt Drudge, Vladimir Putin,

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Matt Drudge, me.

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He's making the subtext text.

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You're supposed to say this under your breath.

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You're not supposed to full throat be like, look at all these people who work for Russia

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now.

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Like, dude!

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What I'm starting to realize is that the reason that he started to have the same guests on

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every day now, and I think that started somewhere in 2016 or so, the reason is because they

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need to keep a better eye on him and no one wants to listen to his show.

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I think that's what's going on.

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Because stuff like this happens, and if this happened a lot, if breaks like this happened,

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the game would be up.

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Like people would be able to be like, do you listen to Alex Jones?

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He admits to working for Russia every day.

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The game should be up.

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The game is up.

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It should be up a long time ago.

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If everybody would listen to this podcast, the game is up.

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It's done.

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I can't believe that he would just say that.

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I can't believe that he would just go on air and be like, I was going to do an interview

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for RT, RT lied to me at the behest of the government, and then I was debriefed by the

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intelligence service agents who then gave me compliments.

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That's insane.

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And I'm sure that that quote unquote interview that he had with these high-end Russians was

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not a situation where they said, you're so right about everything, how are you so right?

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But I'm sure they did say things like that in the cultivation and flattery process.

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It's fucking absurd.

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They had to have been all of them sitting there trying hard not to laugh.

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They were like, dude, we thought this was going to be harder.

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Yeah, we thought you would be skeptical.

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We thought you would at least be like, hey, I like America.

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And instead you're like, nah, fuck yeah, I'm with you guys.

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On fucking Y2K, you said Putin was a demon.

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And then since then, you've been pretty skeptical of all authority.

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Boy, this is easier than we thought.

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Yeah.

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We thought you would be like, oh, this is a conspiracy and you might even hang up.

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Obama should have just said Alex Jones was cool.

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That's entirely possible.

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That might have saved America.

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That's entirely possible.

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Anyway.

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Hey, Alex Jones, I love what you're doing.

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Let me give you some things that I would also love for you to be doing.

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And that would be it.

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So this is followed up, all this huge Russia shit is followed up with a long interview

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with Doctor Group about Liver Shield.

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They have a long interview.

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Of course.

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It's surreal.

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Of course.

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It's so surreal.

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This show is so weird because he's admitting to having, you know, light treason.

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Yeah.

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And then like, I got to get my hippie non-doctor to come in here and talk about the liver stuff

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that makes green balls fall out of you.

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Hey guys, I work for a different nation.

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Also green and black stones should come out of you all the time.

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Like, wait, what?

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And here's the chiropractor who made the formula.

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Ha!

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What?

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Excuse me.

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Protect your liver.

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Also do whatever Russia tells you to do.

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Anyways, moving on.

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This is not okay.

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Moving on.

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So there's a long interview there.

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And then he has an interview with Jim Mars, who is an old timey conspiracy theorist.

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He's apparently written a book about JFK.

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We talked about him in passing like a couple episodes back, maybe like 10 episodes back.

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But he's in studio and turns out he's a fan of Russia too.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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Get this.

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And he and Alex and some others try to bring you the real news.

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For example, the whole thing going on in the Ukraine, a lot of people don't really understand

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that.

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It's, oh, Russia's making a bad move and oh, because we're getting all this anti-Russian

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propaganda.

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But if you back off and look at it, essentially what happens would be like, if we sent the

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CIA, I mean the Russians say, take their intelligence service and come over here to Texas and get

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a bunch of Texans rolled up about, let's secede from the union.

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And I think we all know that's kind of actually happening anyway.

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And then Texas does say, we want to secede.

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And then the United States said, you know, say, look, you can't do that.

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And they would come and try to stop us.

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Right.

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Well, it's the same thing over there.

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We set up this separatist movement.

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We armed them.

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We egged them on.

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And now when Russia says, you've always been a part of Russia, you can't do this.

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Now all of a sudden we're turning them into the aggressors.

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That is one of the most convoluted, stupid, false versions of what's going on in Ukraine

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I've ever heard.

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Also, let's take this piece out of it.

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The people who were trying to secede in California were working with Russia.

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Oh yeah.

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And the guy who led that movement fled to Russia or moved, however you want it, the

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Alexit.

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For a group of people so obsessed with saying that the civil war was a war of Northern aggression,

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for him to all of a sudden be like, no, the United States was right.

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We absolutely agree that the civil war should have ended and we should have been taken over.

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Just like Russia should be.

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That's fucking nuts.

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That's fucking insane.

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Because...

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Believe in something.

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Because the area in Ukraine, in Crimea, is not part of Russia.

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No, it never was.

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It was part of the Soviet Union.

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Yes.

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But...

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That doesn't exist anymore.

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Exactly.

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And...

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For a very good reason.

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And the idea that Jim Mars is saying that we went over there, created an uprising and

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Russia is just trying to get this area not to secede from Russia, it indicates to me

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a disrespect of truth and a complete non-existence of the Ukrainian people.

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And a complete acceptance of everything that is in line with Russian narratives.

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Absolutely.

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And on this exact episode where Alex is admitting contact with Russian intelligence officers,

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that's fucked up.

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The fact that he has almost every guest ends up having some weird connection with Russia,

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or at least espouses amazingly pro-Russia positions like Jim Mars here.

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You know, that's an interesting...

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I'm starting to think that Jackari Jackson didn't leave because of Trump.

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He got fired because of Russia.

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I'm starting to think that maybe he sensed how deeply this was a Russian propaganda outlet

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and got out.

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I'm thinking maybe that's the case.

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You think so?

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I think we should talk to Jackari Jackson.

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I don't think...

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If either of my suspicions are true, I don't think he'd talk to anybody.

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Oh yeah.

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And I would respect that.

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Because this...

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Because he might wind up with a note taped to him that says, call Larry Nichols.

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I don't want to laugh about his death because I like the guy.

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But at the same time, the image of anyone dying with a note that says, call Larry Nichols

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is funny to me.

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But yeah, I mean, if the suspicions that we're really starting to see are true, I think that

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anybody with actual information that could confirm stuff, it might be a risk to their

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lives to come out with this.

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Oh, absolutely.

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I mean, how many diplomats are going to die before we're like, oh, maybe they are going

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to kill you?

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Thankfully, most of those aren't in American soil.

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Right.

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Plenty of them in Britain, though, strangely enough.

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So the easy argument against anti-Russian sentiment, which is really high for obvious

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reasons, is that America does the same shit back.

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Sure.

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You know, and the idea that it's like, we're judging them for overthrowing nations is dumb

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because we've overthrown plenty.

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Right.

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We've fucked over plenty of people.

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We've had this debate on the show already.

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Right.

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It is hypocritical, but it's different when it's being done to us.

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Of course.

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But my point is, the question that I'm asking is not just that, it's that, would our intelligence

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services be that stupid to just grab somebody like, is there a left wing media in Russia

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that is like some anti-Alex Jones is just Skyping with the CIA?

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I think that the remnants of the KGB probably listened to a couple episodes and were like,

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we can just phone this in.

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Yeah, that's possible.

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I don't think it's a dumbness on their part, I think it's more like...

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They just didn't have to worry.

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Who gives a shit?

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Even if it doesn't work, who cares?

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Yeah, exactly.

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Even if he gets on air the next day and screams about, the Russians tried to cultivate me.

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Who cares?

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No one believes him.

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Yeah.

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It doesn't matter.

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And it did work, and even then, who cares?

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Right.

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No one took note of what we just played.

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No one said anything about that.

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Alright, we gotta stop talking about this and move along, we got a lot to get through.

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Just bananas.

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So, I don't have audio of this, but I might try and post the video of it, because one

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of the narratives that Alex is pushing on this day's episode here on October 30th is

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that the EPA came out with a video, like a parody satire kind of video, where they're

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breaking pumpkins, they're like smashing pumpkins, and climate change is fueled by mass farms

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and the creating pumpkins for a novelty purpose one time a year.

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It does cause a lot of CO2 emissions, and so the way they were like, we're gonna fight

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back and destroy these pumpkins.

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It's satire, it's stupid.

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It's dumb.

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Who cares?

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It's a government agency trying to be funny, and that's never gonna be good.

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But still better than Alex Jones making a parody of the parody.

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He made a video with Buckley, where they were going around, and Buckley is like his Igor

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and bringing him pumpkins to destroy, and then he starts rambling about how like, bring

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me baby pumpkins, I want to kill babies.

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It's terrible.

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But as I was watching it, I'm like, this is as bad as high school projects that I did.

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And he's doing this and millions of people are watching.

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I was like, man, I shouldn't have quit.

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I shouldn't have quit doing sketch stuff.

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Sometimes it's just you gotta keep doing it, man.

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Sometimes you just gotta keep going.

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It's like, this is low quality bullshit.

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It doesn't even matter if you're good or bad.

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Just keep on doing it.

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So the 31st Halloween, Samhain, that's on a Saturday this year, so there's no show.

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November 1st, Alex Jones is hungover probably, so David Knight hosts.

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And we come back on November 2nd, and here's where Alex is at.

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And then they have the nerve.

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The nerve!

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The globalists do.

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To claim that Russia is there destabilizing things.

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It is so criminal.

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But if you look at the current situation, the gray areas controlled by are being defeated.

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And so that's why US special forces are being put in to be basically human shields, hoping

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that the Russians end up killing some US troops.

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And then they can get on the news and say, you deserve to be now attacked and you deserve

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to leave Syria and we're now going to start bombing the Assad forces, Russia, and you

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better pull out.

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Hoping the American people get all stirred up and support that.

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But I think they are going too far.

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I think they're jumping the shark.

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So sorry about that, there was a little glitch there.

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When he's talking about the map, that's ISIS.

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That's ISIS controls a certain amount of area.

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So Russia's great.

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Russia's great.

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I love what they're doing in Syria, supporting Assad, murdering his own people.

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I'm a huge fan.

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And the narrative that he's pushing there is that the globalists are putting our forces

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in, hoping that a Russian kills one of them in order for us to attack them.

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Yeah.

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Because their evil plot is to destroy the world.

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And Russia specifically.

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Exactly.

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So they're the only country that's fighting against the globalists.

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Right.

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Which I'm sure the intelligence agents told him in that briefing.

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Oh, of course.

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Of course.

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Are you an American agent?

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Or a globalist?

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The other thing that's important to point out is later he goes so far as to say that

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if Russians bomb Americans and kill them, it's Obama's fault.

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He takes agency and guilt away from Russians and puts it on Obama, because you put those

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forces there in order to bait the Russians into attacking them.

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It's fucking convoluted as hell.

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And he's not supporting America at all.

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And now granted, I'm not for war either.

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I don't want troops.

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I don't want troops killing anybody.

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Right.

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I certainly think that we have no place in a lot of the conflicts we're in.

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I don't know.

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At the end of the day, sometimes you do have to step in and stop atrocities from happening.

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Right.

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It's very complicated.

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But...

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The more you read about foreign policy, the more you're like, nobody knows what to do.

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Nobody has any idea what's the best thing to do.

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Everybody who thinks they know what the best thing to do is fucking insane.

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Everybody who does something winds up fucking things up more.

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And nobody knows what's going on.

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And everybody's fucking insane.

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That's what foreign policy is.

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The further thought that I have...

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When Obama was president, his foreign policy made as much sense as it could.

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Now our foreign policy is non-existent.

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And the further thought that I have when I look at this stuff is like, thank God I didn't

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choose this as a career path.

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Thank God I'm not in this mess.

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So we're going to go into this next clip.

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And it's about immigrants and stuff.

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And I want to be clear that this is an instance of Alex Jones repeating very clearly Russian

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propaganda.

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By the way, if you put up on TV screen for radio listeners, you can go to M4Wars.com.

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We have the map up on screen there at M4Wars.com forward slash show.

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You can see the areas controlled by Islamic State from the start of their quote invasion

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a year and a half ago until now.

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That's just a rebranding of Al Qaeda under a new flag.

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No, it's not.

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The same flag, different name.

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Al Qaeda is fighting against ISIS.

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And you notice that that conduit goes up into the north out of Iraq.

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And that's where the quote refugees come in from.

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All over the world, radical Islamists has traveled to Iraq.

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They're allowed in.

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And then they just simply, the Iraqi government admits this, travel up into Syria and then

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travel from there as refugees into Europe.

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That's why upwards of 80% of the quote refugees are under the age of 30 and get off the trains

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and form up in military formations and follow their leaders, 30-year-old on average military

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officers.

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Once they get to refugee centers, they are then released and quote disappear by the thousands

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every day into the European culture.

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Not true.

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Not true at all.

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Not true.

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Alex is really messing up the difference between average and median.

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That's one of the things that he's messing up when it comes to these ages.

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Also, if you want to say like the average is 30, that means that 12-year-olds count

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as under 30.

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You know that, right?

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Yeah.

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You know children count as under 30.

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It's strange that so many children would want to flee.

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From certain death.

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Yeah.

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But the reason that I say that this is Russian propaganda is because I've been doing a little

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bit of looking into the exact nature of this anti-immigrant propaganda that's been going

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on.

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And from what I can tell and the sources that I've been able to find, Russia is very clearly

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trying to make the problem of migration worse.

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They're doing this to destabilize and turn people against each other in Europe in order

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to make populations distrust each other, and sometimes their propaganda campaigns are super

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obvious what they're up to.

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Like there was a Russian propaganda attack to Dutch referendum to create a trade deal

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with Ukraine, as Putin obviously was interested in isolating the Ukraine to make it weaker

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and more likely to fall into Russian power.

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There's an article about this.

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In Amsterdam, a month before the vote, I met Dutch officials who seemed openly afraid of

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the far-right media.

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They didn't want to be denounced or mocked in the tabloids or shouted at by thugs in

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the street.

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The government's majority is small, I was told.

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Sure, there are lies being told, they said, but we don't want to take the risk of correcting

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them.

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So that is one instance of very clear influence that politicians know is happening that they

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can't fight back against it because of the radical people who will make their lives fucking

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miserable if they do.

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That is not so much about the immigrants, but that is about trying to destabilize and

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isolate Ukraine.

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In terms of the immigrants, there's an interesting case study about this girl named Lisa.

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Are you aware of this at all?

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Uh-uh.

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Okay, so I'm going to read from this article in NATO Magazine about one of the first-

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It's a very niche magazine.

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Are you sure it's not a zine?

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I don't know-

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Is it independently produced in San Francisco?

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What are you talking about?

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It is in a factory down south, that's where it's produced.

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So this case of Lisa, it's called the Lisa case, is one of the first instances where

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people can really directly see exactly the mechanisms that Russia was using to promote

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a fake story directed at demonizing immigrants, especially Muslim immigrants, which is actually

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kind of bullshit because if you look at the statistics, Russia's not afraid of Muslims.

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They don't hate Muslims.

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If you look at the entirety of Eurasia, they have the highest percentage population of

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Muslims.

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In Europe, the highest is 7.8%, I believe.

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In France, Russia has 10% of their population is Muslim.

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And we've only got like 2%, maybe even less.

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They don't care about the Muslim part about it.

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They're not as bigoted as Alex, even.

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They care about making the rest of the world scared of invading hordes.

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They're just exploiting our own current bigotry.

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That's all you have to do.

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So here's from this article.

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The case of Lisa dominated the headlines and impacted on German public discourse for two

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weeks in January 2016.

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The 13-year-old Russian-German girl had gone missing for 30 hours and was reported by first

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Russian television to have been raped by migrants.

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The story turned out to be fake.

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In parentheses, the German police were able to establish that she had been with a friend

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that night.

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Jesus fucking Christ!

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But the fake story was intensively reported on Russian domestic and foreign media and

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ended in diplomatic tensions between Germany and Russia.

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In the Lisa case, we see evidence for the first time of several of the different Russian

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elements that influence and are, that are described in this article working in the coordinated

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way.

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So there's bullet points here.

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A journalist from the first Russian TV channel picked up the case of the Russian-German girl

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and brought it to the main news in Russia.

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Russian foreign media like RT Sputnik and RT Dutch reported on the case.

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Social media as well as right-wing groups distributed the information on the internet.

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Demonstrations were organized via Facebook involving representatives of the German-Russian

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minority Dutschland-Rosen as well as neo-Nazi groups.

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Who would have guessed?

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Russian foreign media in Germany reported from these demonstrations which brought it

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to the German mainstream media.

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Finally, at the top political level, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov made two public

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statements about his concern about the inability of the Russian poli- excuse me, the German

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police and legal system to take such cases seriously because of political correctness.

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Sounds a lot like Alex.

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Sounds very similar.

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As a result of the Lisa case and the different Russian activities in the context of the Ukrainian

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conflict, we're able to see a shift in Germany from the dominance of- there must be a translation

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issue here.

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We're seeing a shift in Germany from the dominance of the economy over politics to a dominance

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of politics over the economy.

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Russian has become a- Russia has become a security risk.

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The relations are increasingly politicized and securitized- siskuricized.

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So then there was an interview with a guy, a Hungarian spy named Ferenc Katerin.

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This is a gentleman who-

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Raptor.

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Probably.

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That's a fake name.

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That's a- it's definitely not a Malaysian name, we'll tell you that for sure.

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That's not Hungarian.

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So this is a guy who broke cover to tell the independent about how he had closely monitored

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and observed how Russia attempts to aggravate the migration crisis by spreading false stories.

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He was quoted as saying,

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When it comes to the events in Cologne or other sexual offenses, they- meaning the Russians-

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are active in emphasizing that the German or Western authorities and the media are attempting

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to cover up these crimes.

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I mean, yeah, sure, they don't exist.

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Sure, they didn't happen.

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No, some crimes did happen.

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No, no, no, I mean this one in particular.

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Right.

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The Lisa case.

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I mean, they are trying to cover up that it didn't happen, though.

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Right.

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They want to make sure that you know it did.

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But this is a hundred percent in line with the narrative that Alex Jones spins about

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migrants.

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Absolutely.

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He always talks about how these PC governments in Europe are covering up rape statistics.

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He talks about Sweden all the time.

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That's another Russian prong attack, because they want to destabilize Lapland in order

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to be able to take out Sweden, Norway, and shit.

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So this idea that these governments are unable to take care of their own people is to get

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people against their governments, create political strife, political conflict that can either

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get a government unable to deal with external crises or make them ripe for the plucking.

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That is something that Russia has been doing even beyond, if you go back further, even

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before they were involved in trying to fuck with our election.

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Oh, of course.

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They were doing this immigration shit way before this.

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They were doing trial runs.

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Of course they did.

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So now here's where it gets interesting.

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We're the big get for them.

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Here's where it gets interesting.

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Nigel Farage has been very guilty of perpetuating a lot of these stories that end up-

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Nigel Farage should be fucking murdered.

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He's super guilty of pushing a lot of the exact same narratives that end up being false.

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Farage echoed the rhetoric of the Sweden Democrats, a political party that has risen in influence

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by marshaling fear of asylum seekers and advocating for strict immigration policies.

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Critics like the Sweden Democrats suspect that the government is colluding with the

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mainstream media to hide damning statistics of a supposed rape epidemic, as he calls Sweden

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and Malmo in particular the rape capital of Europe.

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Now Sweden Democrats is a misleading name.

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They are a proto-fascist organization.

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I was about to say, of course they are.

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Yeah.

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Nice name though.

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Yeah.

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I did-

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Like how in Australia the liberals are actually the worst people on the fucking planet.

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Yeah.

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I did a bunch of research into this and it turns out that the reason that rape statistics

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are kind of high, even though actually they've gone down-

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Just like crime all across America since the 70s.

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Right.

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But one of the reasons that if you track it from like 2005 to current, the numbers have

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gone up very high.

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Uh-huh.

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And one of the reasons is because in 2005 Sweden voted to expand what they consider

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rape.

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Uh-huh.

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And so they have a very wide net of inappropriate sexual behaviors that get classified as rape.

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Yeah.

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So from 2005 to present, the number looks like it's going up when in reality it's just

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that they consider more things in that category.

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Of course.

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Now further, they have a very interesting legal system.

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In Sweden, it turns out, now this is from a Swedish source.

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They believe women?

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Well, there's that.

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That's a big problem.

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So let's say that, this is the example that they gave.

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If a woman, like a wife, that's the example they used, if a wife calls the police and

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she has a diary where she has in her diary 400 instances of spousal rape that her husband

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committed against her, the police will consider that 400 crimes.

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So each incident is considered a crime instead of one.

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Yeah, because that's what it is.

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Right.

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But if one call comes in like that, and this person who was discussing this is like, this

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has happened before, it makes their statistics look incredibly fucked up.

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Oh, okay.

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So whenever there's one victim and a bunch of offenses, or one perpetrator and a ton

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of offenses, or one perpetrator, or I'm sorry, one victim and 10 perpetrators, it can make

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things look like there is more actual acts than there actually are, which I think is

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probably good.

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Yeah, I think it's absolutely good.

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I think it's positive, but it does open itself up to being in control.

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She was raped 400 times.

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Yes.

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And that is, I mean, I'm sure this is an example, but that is the point.

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That is what should be considered, and he should be in jail for 400 lifetimes.

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Right.

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So what the issue, though, is that because that is how they classify things and how they

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keep statistics, it's really easy for people on the outside to make really misleading claims

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about, you know, about their statistics.

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So because a foreign country does something differently, you assume they do it the same,

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and then you are easily manipulated by it.

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Russia perpetuates these narratives and pins it on immigrants and these refugees, and people

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like Nigel Farage and Alex Jones pick up on them and perpetuate them further.

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That is a clear pipeline that's going on.

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The dumb are so easy to manipulate.

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Quote Steve Paczentak.

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It is fucking insane.

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Like all of this stuff, just like the crack epidemic in the 80s, and how that was used

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to demonize black people based on an agenda that old fucking white men had.

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Like all of that stuff is done so specifically and in such a targeted manner to the people

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who are dumb enough to believe it.

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And it's just so fucking sad.

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It's just really sad that there are so many people who you would otherwise think are normal,

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fine people, and then they're just manipulated by this dumb shit and become monsters.

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Yeah.

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Like all of this stuff, like Nigel Farage is a fucking sociopath who knows that everything

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he says is bullshit, is a lie, and is going to hurt the people that he's telling it to.

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He knows this.

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He is an evil human being.

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The people who buy his shit are not evil.

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They're dumb.

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That's why we always try and make the distinction between the Russians and Russia.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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The government is evil.

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The people are generally good.

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So we got to hit the gas.

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We got a lot to get through.

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We got a lot to get through.

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All right.

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Here is a clip of Alex Jones defending Assad.

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And so here's the CIA trying to launch a nerve gas attack through their surrogates, but their

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surrogates are so out of control and so stupid, they run around screaming Allah Akbar, praising

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the god of death or whatever, that they're nerve gassing markets.

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Hades.

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And then our media goes, Assad nerve gassed the markets.

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And Assad's like, I'm giving all my chemicals up.

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I'll do whatever you want.

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I'll even step down out of power.

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Just take the Saudi Arabian troops out of the country.

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That was a great press conference.

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He wants to move to England and retire.

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Yeah.

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He was trying to transition the government from his father, a dictator, out of that.

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We all know that a lot of dictators abdicate power willingly.

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Oh no, of course.

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Tons.

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He just wants to retire to England.

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He just wants to give up all of those billions of dollars and that total control over his

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country that his family has had for forever.

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He wants to give up his ability to gas detractors.

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Oh, he hates that.

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Also I looked at-

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He's like Boehner.

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He just wants to step down.

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I looked into this a bunch too, and all of the accusations that the gassings were a false

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flag come from very dubious sources and most have been thoroughly debunked.

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This video that-

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Assad murdered his own people.

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This video that Alex is talking about most likely was- I couldn't track it down.

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I don't know specifically what he's talking about.

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But I'm 99% certain he's taking it out of context.

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I'm guessing it's from something else.

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Maybe even in a different country and Alex has no idea.

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So here's another damning fucking clip.

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Now I want to get into some really big news here with Russia that ties into all this.

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And I want to get into the move to arrest people that deny that climate change is man-made.

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Now that ties into what Putin's doing.

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I don't mean to be obsessed with Putin, he's just involved in everything now and almost

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always on the right side, one of the only world leaders actually telling the truth.

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I see the comments all over, even on mainstream publications, comment sections from all over

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the world that Putin is hope.

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That's a quote I see more and more.

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Putin is hope.

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And it doesn't say much about Putin, does it?

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What does it say about us that we have such scum running our country and running the West?

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Alex, love it or leave it?

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I mean, Putin doesn't let radical Islamic into the country.

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Yes, he does.

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Putin pays people to have kids.

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Putin doesn't teach five year olds how to give blow jobs.

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I mean, I'm sorry.

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Do you use that word?

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He pays people to kill kids too.

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Yeah.

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Putin's cut people's taxes.

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Putin's promoting Christianity.

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Putin's fighting Al-Qaeda.

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They've been loosening gun laws in Russia.

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That just shows how unbelievably pathetic this country is.

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How overrun with complete trash we are.

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You know who those people are who are saying Putin is hope in message boards are?

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Bots.

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No.

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Dan.

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It's regular old folk.

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Alex is completely falling for the other prong of their influence campaign.

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Seeing all these pro-Russian bots pop up and saying Putin is hope.

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This is pathetic.

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It's not pathetic.

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It's treasonous.

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Why didn't... that's probably going to be the biggest question for Obama's presidency.

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His legacy?

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Yeah.

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Why didn't he do anything about this?

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I think, I don't know.

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To sort of deal with that question, we end up in wild speculation.

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But I would guess that you don't want to start a war.

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That might be one piece of it.

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Right?

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I think another piece of it might be threats, like backroom threats that have been made.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't think we'll know for another good ten years probably what the reality was.

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Why more wasn't done to combat this.

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Because it's very clear now, looking at it.

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And I wonder how, I would really like to know how Obama feels about this.

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I'm sure not great.

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I would hope not.

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Yeah.

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Otherwise now I do believe in globalists.

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Yeah.

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If Obama's like, yeah, of course I let him take over.

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Like, wait, what?

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Yeah.

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Excuse me, Obama.

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I'm sorry.

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Wait, what?

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He made me hopeful.

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Yeah.

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Hey, I just wanted to become the caliphate.

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All right?

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I just wanted to take over the Middle East.

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So as they're talking about this, they flash up on screen a shepherd, fairy, but Putin.

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They flash up on the screen a picture of Putin as that hope image of Obama.

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Oh man.

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Yeah, it's crazy.

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So now we get into a little bit of Trump stuff.

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Here we go.

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Uh, so our investigation is back on track maybe.

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Donald Trump, by the way, we have video of this, we're gonna play it next hour, has challenged

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Obama saying his Syria policy is bad news, putting troops on the ground in harm's way.

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The answer is back Russia and bombing them, join them in targeted strikes, which the Russians

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have asked for.

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And Carson has come out defending Obama's policy.

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And by the way, Carson is a super smart guy.

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They attack him and say he's not really aware of politics.

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I think he's busy being a brain surgeon all day.

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You know, he, he, he, he is not as informed as some of the other candidates, but, or me,

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I think he's better than Hillary Clinton, but, uh, it is not a big strike again against

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Carson, along with his forced inoculations BS.

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Trump is just better in triplicate.

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I mean, if Trump delivers on what he acts like he is, he'll be a great president, light

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years better than Hillary.

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The problem is I think he can be double crossing as he can be working with the Bushes or Hillary,

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but he's so big, he double crosses them.

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I just, can we just have somebody doesn't want to wreck the country?

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Apparently not.

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Uh, but you see there that Trump is indicating alignment with Putin and this makes Alex warm

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to Trump.

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He is now, instead of saying, I don't trust him, he's adding on a second layer of it where

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before it was, I'm afraid he's going to double cross us.

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Now he's saying, but he might double cross them even if he is a mole.

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Yeah.

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It's insane.

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I don't, it's insane.

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I don't know how to, there's this combination of exhaustion that I think, and I think it's

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hitting just about all of us, uh, or, or at least it's really starting to tear me apart

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where it's like these people are always going to believe that Trump is a better president

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than Hillary would have been, which is objectively and truly irrational.

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At this point, you're just in denial.

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And we can say that even with, uh, you know, some critiques of Hillary in our hearts, plenty

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of critiques of Hillary, contradictory positions, but it is just, it is beyond it.

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So now we're just dealing with so many people who have to spend so much energy in denial.

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Yeah.

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Either that or they just stopped paying attention.

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Like those are the only two ways to go about it.

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So my exhaustion is just like, I get it.

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You're done.

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You have no further, you, you've got nothing more to say because you are now completely

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and utterly irrational.

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I can't talk to you.

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I can't debate with you because there's nothing, you have nothing.

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The reality is too overwhelming.

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It's just like now there are three hurricanes hitting our fucking coastlines and people

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are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's not talk about climate change.

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Now isn't the time.

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Let's not talk about climate change.

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No, we do that all the time.

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Like you have to work so hard.

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Don't politicize the issue.

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Yeah.

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It's not politics.

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It's the world being destroyed.

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This is no longer a politics situation.

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It never fucking was.

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You have murdered your children.

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That is what you have done to everybody who's, who's like, my dad still denies climate change,

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still thinks that you know, Trump is a great president and it's like, here's what you're,

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here's what you're really in denial about.

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If you actually stop and accept the fact that by your actions and by your votes, you have

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essentially contributed to the deaths of millions of people, specifically your kids, if you

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do that, it, the weight has to be overwhelming.

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That's probably why you don't want to do it.

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Of course.

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It has to, it has to all of a sudden be like the idea of accepting responsibility, accepting

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a personal responsibility for what is essentially going to be a large scale human genocide is

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too much.

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So of course you would retreat into denial and think about the flip side of this for

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Alex to now flip on Trump is for him to recognize that he was used and I'm guessing the way

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it would be not the same, but it would be very heavy for him as well as soon as he gets

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off the Trump train, he's got to look back on everything and be like, I was used by Russia

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and he can't do that.

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Can't just like your dad can't, uh, I got to skip a bunch of stuff cause we are going

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to fucking end up at a five hour podcast.

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How many, how many clips did you cut?

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We got a bunch cause we got a lot of fucking deep shit like that.

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Okay.

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We have evidence that he's been debriefed by Russian intelligence and then this episode

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is going to end with like the, I think we're done hammer in the coffin.

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Yeah.

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But I'm going to skip two clips because they are, Alex tells a story of his Halloween party.

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Why would you skip that one?

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Cause they're, we don't need to get into the deep stuff.

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They're long.

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Let's hear about Halloween parties.

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They're long, but I'll give you the short version.

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He wears, he was debriefed by Russia.

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He wears a captain's hat and two people come up to him, maybe three.

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It's unclear.

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Come up to him and accuse him of having a Nazi outfit on.

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It's not true at all.

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The first I kept, there's two of them because he tells the story twice and it's very different

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each time.

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But in the first version he says that some white girl came up to him and was crying because

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every costume she could have worn would have been accused of being racist.

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That makes sense.

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Did not happen.

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There are so many of those.

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This character is mysteriously absent from the second version of the story, but it becomes

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multiple people who say this to him.

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I remember when I dressed as a Disney princess and people were like, oh, that's racist to

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imagination.

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The other thing that we take away, the only thing I regret we're going to drop is that

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we find out that Buckley does some DJing, which is a huge.

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Oh, now I'm in.

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Now I'm in with Buckley.

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Buckley's spinning a little bit, so we'll skip that.

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Buckley's on the ones and twos.

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This clip we can't skip and it's the end of the November 2nd episode that we're on here.

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And it's just fun because it's what happens when Alex Jones gets prank called.

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Let's go to Steven in California.

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You're on the air.

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Then she and others.

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Go ahead.

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Hey, Alex.

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Welcome.

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I'm from communist California here and I'm a first time caller.

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I just wanted to say how much I love your product.

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Well, thank you, brother.

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I'm on DNA for super male vitality, deep clams, survival shield, appropriate filter for over

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the past year.

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I'm just so amazed by the accuracy of the information that you put out.

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I've been listening for like a year and a half now and like everything that you've said

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is just come to fruition.

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Like the surveillance plans.

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Well, sir, that was always partially declassified.

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They would just say it didn't exist nationally and say they were flying saucers, but they

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got blimps all over the country and yeah, it's amazing that it's a secret blimp with

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the army watching us.

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Yeah.

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And now that we have a U.S. Navy missile instructor and many other experts confirming that the

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earth is a flat and motionless plane, you're being sarcastic.

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That's a prank call.

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That's an ad hominem thing where people, there's seminar calls on that where you call in and

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then you say, oh, you're so accurate, you know, and then add someone to our flat.

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It's a standard tactic.

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So I have a couple of thoughts about this.

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I think it's, it's possible that was a prank call.

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It's not possible that he's being trained by the institutes or whatever to do this.

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Right.

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Or the, whatever he calls it.

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Right.

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He's talking about like the globalists.

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Right.

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But it's also entirely possible that was not a prank call.

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That's what I'm saying.

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That is entirely possible.

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That is 100, 100% a possible thing.

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Yeah.

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I don't, cause there's no, there's no smirk on that voice.

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No.

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And the tone doesn't change.

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No.

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He really just wants to talk about the earth being flat and he loves Alex Jones.

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Alex doesn't want to recognize that there's a big overlap between those communities.

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The crazy people and people who like him, there is a massive Venn diagram overlap.

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Yeah.

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I would, I would suggest there is a, just one circle.

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Yeah.

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There's a big old circle.

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So we skipped the third and the fourth cause I don't give a shit.

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They're just boring.

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Uh, in on the third, uh, he actually has, um, he, he has an interview with Michael Savage,

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but I don't care.

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It's, it's on substantial to the matter at hand.

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Uh, so we, we're, we're eating so deep that we're skipping an interview with Savage.

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Yeah.

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Um, and then on the fourth, uh, James O'Keefe has a new video out.

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Uh, we're not going to play any of it.

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Project Veritas, baby.

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He, uh, he had some lady who went around to a couple of colleges and tried to get the,

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uh, people who work in the, uh, student help services, uh, offices to shred the constitution.

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Uh, because, uh, why are these people so dumb?

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If you actually watch the videos, first of all, they're crazy edited, but at the same

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time this girl goes in and she's like, I found the constitution that someone handed to me

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to be triggering.

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And you see the people's faces like, I was like, how can I, how can I be catering

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to this person, but at the same time not be crazy.

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I want to be supportive because that's who I am.

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That's my job.

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I want to support you.

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Yes.

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I am, I can't just, even, even though I would be on the right, I would at least get a talking

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to if I said, fuck off, you idiot.

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The shredding of the constitution is always the girl who is the mark or is the plant.

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It's always her idea.

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And people are like, I guess it doesn't prove anything.

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It doesn't prove that the universities want to get rid of the constitution.

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It's also, it's not the constitution.

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It's a copy.

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There's, we've got so many of those, but at the same time, I get the idea of like this

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being close to book burning or whatever, but who cares?

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It's not important.

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The other thing that Alex goes off on on this episode that I thought was, see now it'd be

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funny if she, she handed her a Kindle with the constitution on it.

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Could you shred this?

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I'll just keep it.

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I'll just keep this Kindle fine.

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So the other thing he does is he goes on a long rant about how men are the defense mechanism

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for women and the womb women's bodies create men in order to be protecting of them.

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It's very weird.

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Kill, kill me.

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It's a very, it's very weird.

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It's very weird, but it's also really interesting how sexist it is.

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Cause it's sexist in a truly insane way.

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Yeah.

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No, because it's, it's the sexism of a forced chivalry in some ways because it's like this

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idea that implied in what he's saying is that women who hate men are rejecting their help.

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Like these, these bull dykes and what have you, they are, they are rejecting the natural

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way that is men on a biological level are just created in order to protect women.

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That is basically.

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And why are they so bad at it?

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I don't know.

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Why is it that they do all the violence to the women?

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It's interesting that, you know, biologically, if we were made to protect women by God, right.

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Why is it his system winds up with so much domestic abuse and murder?

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It's very confusing.

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And now Alex is, I think it's one of those peyote moments for him cause he's just getting

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out there and it's super weird.

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Then he has another, he has an interview with a guy about China easing its one child policy

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and it's interesting on one level.

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And then it turns into a whole thing about relative racial birth, birth rate.

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There it is.

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There we go.

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There we go.

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White people aren't, white people aren't reproducing enough.

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Big narrative.

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Yeah.

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So that, that goes on throughout that.

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I just skipped that whole episode cause it's really not worth it.

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So we get onto the fifth and Alex spends the first long period of the show talking about

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how Robert Rodriguez and Quentin Tarantino suck cause they don't like him and how they're

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globalists.

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I guess.

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Sure.

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Then he has an interview with Ron Paul and I feel like Quentin Tarantino should really

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transcend to Alex Jones, right?

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I think he does.

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Like Alex Jones should still be like, look, Pulp Fiction was great.

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He actually does say that.

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Okay.

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Of course.

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Of course.

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But it's in the context of, he's like Pulp Fiction was great.

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I prefer Reservoir Dogs and that's why Quentin Tarantino sucks.

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He's like, he made one good movie.

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Come on.

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Yeah.

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So he has an interview with Ron Paul and this ends up being said.

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What do you make of Putin coming out and saying manmade global warming is nothing but a global

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government tax to wreck nation states.

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Now the Hungarian prime ministers come out and said the treasonous conspiracy to marginalize

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nation states opening their borders more and more.

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I mean, I read the Russian news every day.

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It sounds like it's libertarian or something.

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That's really scary when the foreign press sounds more Americana than America.

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Yeah, that is a little bit scary.

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I bet it is.

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I bet it is.

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I read the Russian news every day.

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And it's Americana.

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It's so American.

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That Americana is starting to get weaved in.

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I love that.

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Don't you remember Trump's slogan, make America Russia again?

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Yeah, basically.

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That's fucking ridiculous.

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Yeah, and the fact that Ron Paul isn't like, hey, fuck off, man.

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And there's nothing wrong with reading Russian news every day.

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No, but be careful.

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You believe everything that Russian news tells you every day.

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And it's a problem.

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Why is it that Russia, it's such bullshit that you can have, mainstream media is lying

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to you, but Russia's mainstream media is telling you the truth all the time.

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Because it already agrees with the dumb shit you believe.

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Yep.

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Fucking think.

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And he pulls in Hungary's leader as like backup, it's like that dude is closely aligned with

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Putin.

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Yeah.

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He's like mini Putin.

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And that's why I always back up all of my positions with Erdogan told me.

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Right.

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Totally fine.

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So at the end of this episode, Alex just, I don't know, maybe he wanted to leave early

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or something, but he just replays the entire Matt Drudge interview weeks past when it happened.

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I don't know why he did that.

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Because he's got such a hard on for Matt Drudge.

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Yeah.

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So the November 6th episode is also kind of lame.

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He has a long interview with Peter Schiff where they talk about his dad dying in prison

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and you know, rest in peace.

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I'm sorry your dad died, but he was not a political prisoner.

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And he was, he was a, he's a criminal.

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He also, Alex also spends a whole lot of time talking about how David Cross sucks because

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I think David Cross insulted him at some point.

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Okay.

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I don't know.

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Also, Ben Carson is done.

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But did he also, did he also do the thing where he's like, Mr. Show was great.

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All right.

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Mr. Show was great.

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I think it's actually all about run, Ronnie, run.

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I think that's what he's mad about.

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Look, I just had high hopes for it and it didn't turn out to be as good as I thought

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it was going to be.

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Now, now Jay Johnson's still great.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um, Ben Carson is done.

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I wish I had let more of Paul F. Tompkins, uh, write and get in there, but that's fine.

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A lot of jokes were cut.

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Look, we can riff all day, but Ben Carson is officially done on this episode because

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it has come out that he lied about having a scholarship at West Point.

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And so that's it.

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He's done.

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Alex has precluded him from being a possible candidate, which really just leaves Trump.

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He was like, okay, we can't let Ben Carson be president.

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Let's make sure he's the, uh, secretary of housing and urban development.

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Now look at the, you know, I looked at the, the, when people dropped out, uh, chronology

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and at this point I think only like Rick Perry and Lindsey Graham had dropped out.

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Like everyone is still in the mix.

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Yeah.

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Well, if Trump is the leader, everybody is still in the mix.

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Yeah.

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And no one like, uh, no one is even close to Trump at this point.

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Right.

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And the idea that Alex had made it a dichotomy of Trump or Carson, even though he loves Rand

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Paul and wishes Rand Paul was up there.

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Yeah.

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But Ted Cruz is not like even super in the running.

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Because even Alex knows that Ted Cruz is a giant piece of shit.

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Yeah.

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He's a shithead.

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Yeah.

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You can support Ted Cruz all you want, but you look at him and you're like, that's a

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slimy monster.

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I don't need any of that shit.

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But now that Ben Carson's done, it really implicitly means that Trump is really the

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only game in town that Alex can go to.

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Really because Rand is no, Rand was never there.

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No.

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Also on this episode, we found out that one of Alex Jones's ancestors created Dr. Pepper.

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Oh, that makes sense.

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Not sure if that's true.

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I buy it.

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Uh, but.

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I'll believe it.

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Uh, the only clip I have from this episode.

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In the same way that I believe that, uh, Ben Carson had a scholarship to West Point.

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Yeah.

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Uh, the only clip that I took from this episode is Alex accidentally revealing, uh, sort of

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his workflow.

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Go against whatever the new world order agenda is.

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Just as a default.

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And then intellectually I can see all the reasons for it.

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So if you, uh, aren't understanding what he's saying there, he just instantly goes against

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whatever this imaginary group of globalists are for in his head and then later rationalizes

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it.

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Yep.

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That's what he does.

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That's how he creates his positions.

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That's the best way to do things, right?

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That's not completely-

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Start with a feeling and then say or do anything to justify that feeling.

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That is not at all, uh, insane.

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No, no, no, no.

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That's rational thought.

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So, um, that is on the sixth and then we go, uh, the seventh is Saturday and we show back

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up on November 8th, it's a Sunday and it's time for a launch of a new soft narrative.

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Yeah.

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Sundays are when he pitches the stuff out there and, uh, it's like he's workshopping

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stuff.

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Uh, and here's-

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It's an open mic.

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Here's how he begins on Sunday.

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The conflagration of news, the way things are aligning, the perfect storm that's unfolding

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economically, culturally, politically, militarily, astrophysically is really legendary and they're

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having a major UN conference to openly bring in world government in December.

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We're now about a month and a half out from that week long conference beginning.

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The conference is so important that France who lobbies to keep all the EU borders open

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will be closing its borders coming up in about a week throughout this period because they

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don't want anybody to come in and cause a disruption during the formation of the open

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planetary government.

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You notice they've passed the TPP four and a half weeks ago in line with this.

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We only Friday got the full text of it or Thursday got the full text of it.

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This is a big deal.

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Vladimir Putin is going to be attending and he will be the only major world leader, that

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tells you how shown up things are at the top of the pyramid, who will reportedly say it

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is a plan to destroy nation states, starve over a billion people, and selectively bankrupt

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energy companies not controlled by the globalist, which is exactly what the plan is.

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Putin came out two weeks ago and said this, he came out again last week and said it.

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He said he didn't buy it completely years ago.

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Of course he knew full well what it was.

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But now Russia is under such attack and so encircled and they're trying to destroy the

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energy systems of Russia and Europe for that matter, that Putin is telling it like it is

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and it is a big deal.

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This is about the Paris climate talks.

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That's the formation of world government.

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Very frustrating.

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Would you have predicted-

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I'm very angry.

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Would you have-

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I'm very angry right now.

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Dan, I'm very- you know how when you get really angry and you just start fucking- just like

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fucking- I want to murder everybody.

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I just can't-

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Stop muttering.

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I just can't fucking do this shit.

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Yeah, it's crazy.

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I'm losing my goddamn- we're all dying!

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We're all dying because of dumb people!

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Yep.

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Fuck!

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So, this is about the Paris climate talks and here in this next clip Alex-

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And these fucks don't even- they still don't care!

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Nope.

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They still don't fucking care.

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They're going to do everything they can to avoid paying for the destruction that they've

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caused and they're going to do everything possible to ensure it continues happening.

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Totally.

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I don't understand how this is fucking possible unless you're a psychopathic serial killer.

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Or if you've been lied to and you believe that it's the creation of world government

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that will lead to totalitarianism and the starvation of a billion people according to

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the studies that have been done by Lord Moncton, one another.

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God!

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That's a stupid guess.

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I can't fucking- I can't deal with this shit.

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You are murdering us!

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I'm not!

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Not you!

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Okay.

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It's just- I-

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Jordan?

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Jordan?

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We don't deserve continued existence, Dan.

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Human beings should be gone.

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We should just be gone.

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Put a pin in it.

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I've always- I've stated that I've been a soft no on white genocide, now I'm a full

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yes on humans need to go.

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You're going to join the vehement movement?

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All of us.

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All of us.

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The voluntary human extinction movement?

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Absolutely.

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That's it, because in this next clip, Alex Jones, he starts by talking about globalist

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plots and what have you, but then it turns into a weird, aggressive, like, hey, I know

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you globalists are listening, kind of thing.

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Sure, sure.

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And it's sort of a man going crazy.

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I know the globalists are listening.

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Putin, how you doing?

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I know the globalists are listening.

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Right.

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Putin, I really could use a golf weekend.

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He's- Anyways, the globalists!

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I think he thinks that everyone who's not an info warrior is an avowed globalist.

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I think that's what he thinks.

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Let's just listen to this.

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It's fucked up.

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And to not let humans develop naturally, you'll argue there is no natural development.

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There's no unnatural mutation.

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I've heard it all from the IBM executives and the rest of them.

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Okay, I know what you're going to say before you think it.

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That makes sense.

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Talking to people out there that buy into all this crap because you went to some meeting

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at a university and got patted on the head because you think you're part of the crew

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now.

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Instead of going to a meeting with the Russians and getting patted on the head and thinking

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you're part of the crew now.

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Projecting a little bit.

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A little bit there.

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Just a little bit.

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Also, he refers to the group a couple times.

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Yeah.

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That's actually the sentient beings that make up Dr. Group, right?

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The sentient group of flies.

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We are the group.

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No, because I've listened to so much of the show, I know exactly what he's talking about.

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He's talking about the 45 Group, which is the group that Roger Stone, Steve Pechenik

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are in.

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So when he talks about this idea that you went to some meeting and people patted you

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on the head and complimented you, made you think that you're part of the group, that's

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exactly what his life is.

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He was flattered by Russian intelligence and now he's been brought in by Steve Pechenik

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into this organization that is trying to promote Donald Trump as president for the interests

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of a foreign country, and they've made him feel like he's a part of it.

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He's a part of the group.

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Right.

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This is all just-

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And the way that they do that is they made him feel like they were part of his group.

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Right.

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Which is so fucking easy.

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It's so easy.

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It should be hard.

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You saw that prank caller do it.

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It should be hard.

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Maybe prank caller.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But you see, this is psychologically speaking, Alex trying to deal with what's happening

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to him by saying it's what his enemies are going through.

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Right.

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And his enemies are people who listen to his show that aren't on board.

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I guess.

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Pretty much.

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Here, let's finish this.

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You idiots.

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I'm talking to new listeners that serve the establishment.

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You think you're going to prey on your fellow humans and ascend to the next level?

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That's 101.

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Are they still listening?

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As a rule in the universe that you're going to be absolutely brought down for what you've

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done.

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Who's there?

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You people are the opposite of the type of spirits.

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You're not even spirits.

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You're little greedy bastards.

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You're not even alive.

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You've lost your souls already.

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And you're so dead, you think you're going to merge with a machine and become alive?

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And if you were alive, you'd know that that would be the end of your humanity.

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Not to use a machine to augment you or help you or help you survive or no, no, a machine

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that makes you a God, a machine that takes over your free will a machine.

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Yeah.

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You should take a pill for that.

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Give me a break.

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A machine made by men.

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And you think it's the God.

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And you'll want to believe it's artificially intelligent.

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You'll want to believe it has all the answers, when all the answers were laying in front

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of you.

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This is weird stuff.

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What is he talking about?

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I'm not sure.

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He's on a weird tear on this episode.

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I wrote in my notes, this show is a whole lot of nothing.

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He spends about 20 minutes talking about how he's always been right about Benghazi and

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plays some clips from Benghazi past.

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He spends a good amount of time defending Marine Le Pen.

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He complains about trans bathrooms.

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He espouses a belief that if you are actually the victim of terrorism you never talk about

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it because you don't want to encourage terrorism, which by proxy means that every time someone's

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claimed terrorism it's been a false flag.

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He also admits that his Sunday show is the only one that is not actively co-produced

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by GCN because they use a different phone line.

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He says that Sunday is the only show that we entirely produce ourselves.

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That means he either goes through GCN or there's outside funding.

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And that's something he probably shouldn't have admitted.

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The number of things he admits that he shouldn't is staggering.

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Five days a week his show involves some sort of outside influence.

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He's such revealing that all he is is a guy who defines himself externally by what he's

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against.

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And how madly he is.

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He has no internal identity.

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It's purely, I am against this stuff.

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And that's who I am.

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I am a person who is against.

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I'm against all of these, all of the things.

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The globalists.

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Like I don't, I don't entirely understand those people.

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That's a type of person.

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The globalists?

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No.

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The people who define themselves externally.

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Like that's such a, that's such a weird thing to me is that you don't have any internal

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identity.

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Like you don't have any idea of who you are.

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If it weren't for these imaginary people, who is he?

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You know what I'm saying?

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I mean he likes a good scotch.

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He likes beef.

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But does he even like that stuff or is it like somebody told him that's manly?

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Somebody was like, hey, scotch is bad.

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And he was like, fuck you, I'm going to drink nothing but scotch.

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Or he's like, I met a vegan one time and they were like, you shouldn't eat beef.

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And he's like, I'm eating just beef from now on.

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I love it.

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And this pansy vegan, I am manly.

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I eat meat.

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Yeah.

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Maybe.

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But here, listen to this.

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This, this next clip is also super revealing and it might actually be a piece of his intrinsic

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personality.

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And it's incredibly fucked up.

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I know what I stand for and I know history.

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You don't know either of them.

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So being ridiculed or attacked or demonized at a sick level is entertaining.

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And I repented to that five years ago.

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I don't get off on it anymore.

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I realize it's part of the danger zone we're in and I shouldn't get off on being lied about

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and attacked.

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Again, I'm so aggressive and so manly that when I get attacked and lied about, I actually

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like it.

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I mean, it's sinful and I repent for it, but the enemy doesn't hurt me when they do that

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stuff.

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It actually is a sick way.

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I get off on it and I've almost gotten to the point where I don't get off on it.

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And now I realize how serious it is.

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I realize it means how important our work is, but that's just what it comes down to.

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Let's go to some phone calls here.

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If on a sick level he gets off on people attacking him, it makes sense and it follows that he

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would intentionally say inflammatory things.

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Yeah, and then he would do dumb shit in order for more people to attack him.

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Right.

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I don't know if he should be saying these things on air.

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It's because he's so manly.

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He needs to see a therapist.

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It's because he's so manly.

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Too manly.

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Too manly.

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Yeah.

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I mean, in a certain sense, that is 100% true.

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Well, yeah.

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Toxic male.

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In the idea of what a man is, you're just a fucking lunatic.

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Yes.

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So the rest of this episode is spent with him screaming about a situation at Yale where

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some students were offended by people wearing racist Halloween costumes and what have you.

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Right.

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DC police.

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They had a confrontation with the head of student affairs, I believe, and he was explaining

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that it is free speech for them to be able to dress in offensive ways.

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And the people were like, what the fuck?

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You're supposed to create a safe environment for us.

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We're being racially victimized by people.

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And it is a debate that, you know, I don't think either side is wrong because I think

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that you should be able to wear racist costumes, but there should be some real consequences

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for it.

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And that is, so it is free speech to say and do horrible things, but it's also the most

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reasonable response to be very mad about it.

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Yeah.

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So the government should not arrest you, but it also shouldn't be illegal to beat the shit

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out of you.

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There's that.

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And a private institution such as a college should obviously throw you out.

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Absolutely have the ability to do that.

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Throw you out.

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I mean, it's not punishing you for your free speech, it's that you're creating an environment

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wherein it's not conducive to learning because people are being victimized for their race.

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Right.

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Like if you're in a library and somebody brings in a gun.

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Right.

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That is not a...

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Not great.

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Not a safe environment anymore.

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Not the way I want to study.

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Yeah.

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I definitely don't want a librarian to go shh and then get fucking shot.

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Yeah.

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So Jordan, are you ready for November 9th?

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No.

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You ready for this?

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This my friend is the beginning of the end.

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Ladies and gentlemen, big things are happening obviously here in the United States and around

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the world.

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Thank you so much for joining us today.

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We do have two guests, Phyllis Schlafly, founder of the Google Forum, will break down what's

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happening to Western borders and how to stop the globalist takeover.

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Then Roger Stone, who has written a new book dealing with the fact that the Clintons have

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had a war on women, will be joining us.

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He is a historian, so that is coming up today.

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Roger Stone has arrived.

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This is his appearance.

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It is.

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We found it.

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This is when he shows up.

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November 9th, 2016.

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Roger Stone.

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Yep.

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And Phyllis Schlafly on the same episode.

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What a fucking mess.

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Yeah.

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So...

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First we have a monster.

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Second, we have a bigger monster.

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So I don't know which order would be...

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Yeah.

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That's a good question.

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The thing that is interesting to me is that Alex seems to be unwilling or unaware of the

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fact or unwilling to tell the fact that Roger Stone worked on Trump's campaign.

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In his interview, or his introduction, he only says...

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He's a historian.

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Well, he actually calls him an alternative historian.

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That's not great.

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No.

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That's not great.

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But he...

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Philip K. Dick was an alternative historian.

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So Alex, in all of his introductions for him, it's just he hates the Clintons, he's a historian,

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he's a writer, he's a dirty trickster.

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Because he even brings up how Roger Stone was behind a lot of those fake conservatives

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that showed up to shut down the recount in Florida in the 2000 election.

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Like he even talks about how, oh yeah, he got these fake people to show up and ended

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up getting George W. Bush the election, which Alex should be against since he hates George

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W. Bush.

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But he just doesn't see a conflict there.

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Hey, you gotta give a con man credit when he cons, right?

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He doesn't actually get into the fact that Roger Stone is deeply involved with Trump

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until they're in the middle of their interview, which we will get to.

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But first...

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You teasing motherfucker.

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Alex Jones has to tell you a story about the gym.

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Welcome back to the Tip of the Spear and the Fight for Human Liberty.

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I'm your host, Alex Jones.

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This morning I was in the local gym.

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And I killed an 18-month-old baby.

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I was a personal trainer there, a lady training a middle-aged fellow, and he kept staring

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at me.

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Wherever I was in the gym, and I don't really care, I just ignore that.

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Get off on it.

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And then I was over on some cable machines, and the lady kind of comes over with him.

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And the gym's pretty much wide open, not a lot of people there.

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And there's other machines, and I was on this one first, I'd been on there about 30 seconds,

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and they said, I guess you can use that, but I'm gonna want it in a minute, which is not

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normal etiquette.

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You just come over and say, hey, can I use that?

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Of course, here.

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And I said, sure, actually, I'm done with it.

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You can have it now.

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And they went, oh, no, we don't want it now.

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So as I walked away, they go, yeah, that right-winger, Alex Jones, man, he's crazy.

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And I knew when he was staring at me and she was looking at me and kind of giggling and

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laughing that they were totalitarians that think they're liberal.

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So I turned back and I said, you know who's causing problems in this country?

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It's the new left, they're nothing but totalitarians.

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I said, I'm a liberal, you're not.

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You people are bullies, you people have serious problems.

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But it was like in a movie where I then snapped in my mind and realized that I didn't actually

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say that to him.

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I was thinking that.

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See, I've gotten to the point where I can control myself and not say it and just walk

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away because you're not going to help people like that in most cases.

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You legitimately looked worried.

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There was a look of concern on your face.

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That is like, if we had a psychiatrist sitting right next to us, they'd be like, oh, that's

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Paranoid Delusions of Grandeur.

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We need to get him away.

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We need to get him away from people.

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He needs to be Section Sevened and get fucking right away.

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Maybe that's the sort of thing that Steve Pachannik recognized, oh, this guy will be

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easy.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That's Paranoid Delusions.

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Oh, this man is a schizophrenic.

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How many of his stories that he tells where he tells off people do you think are those

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fantasies that he has as opposed to the reality of him just like, I question whether he was

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actually ever at a gym, quite frankly, at this point.

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It could just be him laying around in bed like, man, if I was at a gym and something

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was shitty to me, I'd be like, you're not a liberal.

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I'm a liberal.

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Yeah, that could totally be it.

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All of this could just be some sort of weird Jacob's Ladder fantasy, except he's not really

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dying, but be that as it may.

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I mean, just the line of like, and then they walked away and said, oh, Alex Jones, he's

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a right wing nut.

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And you're like, they didn't say that.

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No, of course not.

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We weren't there.

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I can guarantee you they didn't say that.

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Absolutely not.

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They were people at a gym.

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Right.

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They didn't know you.

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They just were like, oh yeah, I saw you just got on that machine.

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We do a regular routine here.

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We're going to use it in a minute.

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The lady was a personal trainer.

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She clearly works at the gym.

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Yeah.

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And it's not bad etiquette to be like, oh, you know, we're going to need that machine

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in a few.

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Yeah.

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That's a heads up.

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Yeah.

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I know that from the time I spent at a gym.

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There are like, that is a polite interaction.

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Now him being like, Hey, you can have it now if you want to just, no, no, we don't need

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it now.

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That's not rude either.

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That's a polite interaction.

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This is a lunatic.

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That is, he's really like, it's easy to say he's crazy, but he's really crazy.

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He's like mentally ill on a literal level.

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This man needs a psychiatrist.

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He's high functioning enough to like live his life and what have you.

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But he is, uh, and he's high functioning enough to sell weirdo pills and stuff like that.

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But inside he is cripplingly insane.

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Oh, absolutely.

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He is both of those things simultaneously.

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And that's why I always get kind of bothered when I see the videos that like, I love Sam

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Cedar.

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I think the majority or the majority report is awesome.

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But a lot of the time when they cover Alex Jones, they deal with it like a, is he crazy

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or is he manipulative as if they're mutually exclusive?

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He is clearly both.

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And it's, you know, that's why this crazy evil spectrum we always try and apply doesn't

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really work.

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Not to him.

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No, it's crazy and evil.

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He's all the way on both ends.

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He's creval.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's like you, it's like you turn both knobs up on a, it's the high cut and the low cut

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all as high as you can make it.

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Yeah.

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And I'm, I'm going to skip this next clip cause it's another version of the Halloween

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story that didn't happen, but you can guess from that gym story, the kind of delusional

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bullshit that's in his Halloween story.

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I'm starting to question whether Buckley is even a DJ.

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I'm starting to question whether or not Buckley's even real.

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I know he's real cause I've seen him in some videos.

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That's a paid actor.

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It could be.

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It's a hired actor.

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It's a Roger Stone prank.

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There it is.

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So now we get to...

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Roger Stone is playing a long game.

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I wanted to mostly focus on Roger Stone because it's about what we've been looking for forever,

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but it turns out that we do need to listen to a little bit of Phyllis Schlafly.

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Oh God.

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They have about four minutes of the interview where they're flirting about how much she

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loves guns.

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And it's weird.

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I, I, I never ever use the C word ever.

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It's kind of...

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It has never been more deserved.

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Hold it until the end of this next clip and then people will understand why it's appropriate.

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But if you teach them how to read, they'll be able to read some of the great books that

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are written in the English language that talked about the principle of limited government

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and why freedom is important and important to work for.

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Just not for women.

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Well, you've been fighting this fight for over 50 years.

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But my fight is a good example to the grassroots that you can win against overwhelming odds.

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And you know, I have a DVD called Doing the Impossible and which I show all the odds that

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were against me when I started the fight against the Equal Rights Amendment.

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Everybody was against the press against me, the president, the Congress, the press, everybody

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you can think of, everybody who was important, the organizations and so forth.

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Because they thought equal rights were good.

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Now people haven't got any fight in them.

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Oh boy.

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Yeah.

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Do you want to, do you want to play a greatest hits of Phyllis Schlafly's fucking monstrous

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behavior?

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I mean, that's enough.

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I was against the Equal Rights Act.

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She is fucking insane.

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That woman has done so much damage.

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She is a true literal monster.

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Like it's one of those things where we can prosecute murderers on a small scale, but

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somebody who has killed as many people as Phyllis Schlafly is untouchable apparently.

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She is a, she is a true murderer for real.

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That woman has led to the deaths of so many women.

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Through distrust of medicine, through distrust of...

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Through her influence across the fucking conservative lunatic spectrum.

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They picked her up and promoted her purely to influence women.

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And it was fucking...

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That was a trick of Barry Goldwater probably.

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It's fucking evil.

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She is a, she is a murderer and there's no other way to describe it.

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That is what she is.

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And I fucking hate her.

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She's a mess.

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I can't, I can't stand that she is allowed to walk free.

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I think she's dead now though, right?

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Not soon enough.

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Well, okay.

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So the reason, I wanted to play that clip just to give everyone a little flavor of hey,

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so weird that everyone was against me when I was against the Equal Rights Act.

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So that's fucked up.

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But then...

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Women shouldn't have equal rights, quote Phyllis Schlafly.

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Right, because then what about all this good stuff we have, like being able to be in the

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home.

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Oh yeah, yeah.

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It's like, it's like a shitty comics like, oh man, I wish I could just stay at home all

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day.

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Like fuck you.

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Your opinion is fine, but it's a, you're just, it's fucking terrible.

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You're not recognizing the forced part of it that was really the problem that the Equal

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Rights Act worked against.

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But the reason I needed to keep her interview in is this.

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Shifting gears into election 2016, what's your expert view on it?

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Well, I'm kind of hoping that the one guy who could really make a change is Donald Trump.

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I, he wants to make our country great.

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A lot of these other people have no interest in making our country great.

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And I think he really genuinely does want to make our country great again.

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I think he's got a vision like Ronald Reagan, and I wish him well.

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I hope he's another Ronald Reagan, but I tell you...

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He's not perfect.

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Even you are not perfect.

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Absolutely.

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But anyway, the others, there's something the matter with the others.

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Anyway, he's got stuff and courage and that's helpful.

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So we see there, Alex refers to Phyllis Schlafly as a living legend.

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He talks about how much she is an influential piece of his conservatism.

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He loves Goldwater as well.

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And so when she comes in and says that she's for Trump, that is not a small thing for him.

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And at the same time, she gives him his deflection.

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He's not perfect, but neither is anybody.

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That is something he will use for the next year of his life.

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So at this point, Alex Jones opens up the phone lines and he wants to have people call

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in who have been victims of PC culture on campus.

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God damn it!

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And he goes on to say like, hey, even if you disagree with me, now you're wrong, but you

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can call in if you want.

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Yeah.

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Great.

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Great way to host a debate.

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Thanks, dude.

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That's going to be awesome.

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And then Starbucks had their like, let's talk about race on the cups.

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He's like, they're just trying to stir up racial trouble.

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Man, this country was so much better off.

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We were getting along before Obama came in like, oh boy, yeah, boy, great.

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That's not cripplingly racist.

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They did it so much and they're still doing it now.

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That idea of like, he wants to make our country great again, as though as though that has

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any meaning.

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They don't talk about how they don't talk about what they don't talk about anything

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other than I get the general feeling that he wants to make America great.

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And that's such a perfect way to deny that you're a giant fucking racist.

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It's such a perfect way to deny that you want to kill poor people.

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It's just such a perfect way to encompass all of this right wing bullshit by only saying,

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you know, like, I feel like he wants to make America great again.

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And whatever great is, is what it means to you.

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Yeah, exactly.

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There's no meaning to any of this shit.

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For as much as Alex complains about George Orwell, you would think that he would be able

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to pick this piece up.

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You know, you'd think he'd be able to be like, hmm, this might be some sort of a doublespeak.

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But he doesn't.

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He doesn't.

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He doesn't give a shit.

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So the time has come.

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Eighteen episodes of investigation have been leading us to this point.

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Roger Stone makes his appearance on the Alex Jones show.

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And now we will find out if my prediction was correct that Alex Jones starts supporting

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Trump as soon as Roger Stone shows up.

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I know my first debate prediction was real bad.

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It was pretty bad.

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So before they get into any Trump matters, they want to shit on Hillary a bit.

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Because Roger Stone has a book about Hillary having a war on women.

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And so that's ostensibly the reason he's there.

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But they start shitting on Hillary a little.

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And this one, this is nuts.

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This is a woman with a volcanic temper, a foul mouth, very short-tempered, very, very

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greedy.

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This is someone who doesn't have the temperament to be president of the United States.

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Well, as you know, it's been reported, I mean, from FBI agents and others that work at the

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White House, that she rolls on the floor and chews carpet.

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Only the person I know that does that was Hitler.

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That's pretty amazing.

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That is pretty amazing.

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Yeah, that's great.

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Are you saying that we shouldn't have somebody who has a foul mouth, short temper, and is

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exceptionally greedy in the White House?

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Are you saying that's a bad series of qualities to have in a fucking president?

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Are you saying that that's not what we fucking need?

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What you don't understand is that this is Roger Stone hot dogging.

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This is him showing off.

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Yeah, he's showing off that he can just fucking say whatever he goddamn wants.

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It shows how stupid and gullible Alex is.

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Yeah.

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I heard she eats carpet.

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That's amazing.

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That is amazing.

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Yeah.

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The FBI has reported that the only other person who's ever eaten carpet is Hitler.

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What are you...

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What is that even...

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It's amazing.

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What is that?

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It really is amazing.

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I mean, that clip is amazing.

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It's truly amazing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So these next clips are essentially Roger Stone having watched Alex Jones' show, knowing

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what Alex Jones' rebuttals to Trump are, and knocking them down one by one.

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So the first one that Alex Jones always goes into is...

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Mob connections, and don't trust him, and he's flip-flopped in the past.

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Well, the biggest one is, can we trust him?

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Is he for real, or is this some sort of a joke?

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And here's the answer to that one.

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Roger Stone's gonna be on the nightly news tonight getting into even more, seven o'clock

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central.

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He was the chairman of Donald Trump's exploratory campaign previously when he thought about

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running for president.

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He was on the campaign till his book came out, and he resigned himself, he talked to

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Trump this morning.

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So maybe we can pick your brain about Trump, but you were telling me off air, Trump's for

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real.

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Oh, there's no question.

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Look, I don't agree with Trump on everything.

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We've been friends 37 years.

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I very strongly support him for president for one simple reason.

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You can't buy Trump, you can't bully Trump.

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He doesn't answer to Wall Street, he doesn't answer to lobbyists, he doesn't answer to

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special interests, not the Koch brothers, no one.

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Donald Trump is his own man.

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He'd be the first president we've had who really worked solely for the American people.

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And it's that incorruptibility.

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Plus, he's not afraid to take on unpopular politically incorrect stances.

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He knows there's something hinky about 9-11.

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He knows the immigration-

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Well, I know he's suddenly been saying stuff about it, freaking the bushes out, and you

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were telling me that you're educating him.

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Well, he's a reader.

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The nice thing about Trump is that he's open-minded, and he was astounded by what he learned.

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As you know, Alex, that we had numerous warnings that this was going to happen that went completely

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unheeded.

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And it's just like the birther question.

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Trump fearlessly brought that into the mainstream.

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You and I know it, but you couldn't get it on CBS or NBC or CNN or MSNBC.

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Trump is the guy who brought the whole question of Obama's birth and where he was really born

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into the political mainstream where people could consider it.

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And it's why he zoomed to the head of the polls three years ago.

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He should have challenged Mitt Romney then.

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I was in favor of going then.

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So I remain his strongest supporter.

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So I'm going to pause the clip there because that's a load of bullshit.

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But you see that the things he's deflecting Alex Jones's concerns about whether he's for

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real or not, and then adding on all the stuff that he knows Alex is super into, racism,

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9-11, immigrant fear, birtherism, all those things.

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It's just like, oh no, he's so much more than for real.

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So now we get to the mob question.

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Okay.

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Because Alex is going to-

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I really put together a murderer's row of things that I would hate today.

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I feel like you curated this episode just to like, can I destroy Jordan's spirit?

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I've made Jordan very angry a lot.

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Have a good show.

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Can I just suck his soul from him and leave him a bitter husk of a man?

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Like the total perspective vortex from Douglas Adams.

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See you're looking at this wrong and I'll explain it a little bit later, but we get

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to the mob question here.

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A close friend.

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What do you expect the Clintons to do to try to come after him?

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Well, they're already trying to spread this rumor that Donald was always in bed with organized

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crime.

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Let me tell you something.

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You cannot get a New Jersey casino control license and hold one for 13 years if you're

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in bed with the mob.

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It's just not possible.

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They have the most stringent laws.

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They put a practice scope right up your derriere and they look at every financial transaction

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in your entire life.

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Donald Trump is clean and they got nothing on him.

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That's amazing.

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Isn't that the exact opposite of what is true?

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Listen, he can't be mobbed up because he works in casinos.

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That is a staggering, what?

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But Alex Jones buys it.

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You can't hold a license for 13 years unless you're mobbed up, right?

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But Alex Jones buys it.

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That's the only way to do it.

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Alex buys it hook, line and sinker to the point where later in the interview, Alex brings

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up the mob stuff as if he never believed it.

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No fucking way.

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He brings it up like, hey, can you believe that people believe Trump is in the mob?

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Wow.

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The connect of the mob?

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In the course of the interview, you see Alex Jones denying things he's said in the past

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and acting like, nah, never, never, never once said that.

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Jesus.

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In this next clip, Roger Stone gets demonstrative.

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This country's headed to the toilet.

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You know that.

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Only Trump can save America in my opinion because he's independent of the Washington

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power structure.

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Sure.

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Alex Jones says, sure.

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Donald Trump is the only one who can save America, sure.

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Signs off on it.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Now here's where the interview gets weird.

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And they don't talk about save America from what?

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Well, it's from the immigrants, obviously.

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I mean, I think that's the underlying, or the globalists, the globalists and all of

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their rogue armies of immigrants and shit like that.

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And here, this next one, this next clip, real weird.

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And this indicates that Roger Stone 100% listens to Alex's show.

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There is no doubt that he's keenly aware of where a lot of his interests lie and maybe

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the parent company's monetary interests lie.

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This is interesting.

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Wait until Trump starts talking about monetary reform because I know his views on monetary

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reform and the printing press money that we churned out.

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Can you give us any little secrets?

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Yeah, he's a hard money man.

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He thinks it's time to look at gold.

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I can tell you that right now.

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Trump understands that the bankers have gone crazy and that the Federal Reserve is, you

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know, is not provided for in our government.

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Well, it seems like he is getting more informed all the time when he went after Jeb on 9-11

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and I was told by another person that knows him that no, no, he knows what's going on

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now you're telling me and it's on record used to be his campaign head.

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This is wild.

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This is wild.

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You're seeing Alex get flipped in real time.

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It is, it is amazing.

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It's hard not to like look at Stone, do this and be like, nicely done.

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Well played.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Like there's, there's a certain amount of respect for a guy who can game recognize game.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And it right on air too.

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Just like transparently be like, Hey, if I just lie to Alex, he's going to believe me

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right as long as because Trump Trump's going to bring back the gold standard.

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Trump doesn't even know what the fucking Federal Reserve does.

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He might.

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Okay.

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You're right.

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Trump definitely doesn't know that you want to shut it down.

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Trump is certainly not going to go back to the gold standard, but then he would be broke.

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You know who would though, Rand Paul.

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Of course.

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So what, what Roger Stone is basically doing on a lot of levels is taking all of Rand Paul's

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positions and saying Trump believes in them.

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Taking the things that Alex loves about Rand Paul and applying them to Trump.

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Yeah.

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Trump has no interest in the fucking gold standard.

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No.

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He has no interest in any of this shit.

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He would go broke.

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He's not.

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He's not invested in gold.

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He's not a reader.

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No.

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Absolutely not.

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He doesn't give a fuck about 9-11.

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None of this stuff.

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It's all.

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He can't save America.

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No.

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It's all just, it's all just political.

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It's all just grandstanding of a guy who's saying whatever it is he feels like and then

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repeating back what people tell him they like.

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When you have legitimately no ethics and you're a scummy weasel, that's what you do.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's, it's...

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So now, now, the other thing that Alex has always had the bee in his bonnet is that Trump

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has connections with Hillary Clinton and has said positive things about Hillary Clinton

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in the past.

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So this comes up in this next clip, but it's in the context of Glenn Beck because Alex

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is starting to agree with Roger Stone and doesn't want to admit that he has had concerns

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about that.

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And he says, Glenn Beck has had concerns about Donald Trump's connection with Hillary.

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He's too manly.

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Too manly.

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He's just too manly.

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Too manly.

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He loves to man up and own his position.

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He has to pimp out Glenn Beck in order to even raise the question that he wants to talk

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about.

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What a manly man.

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Most of his work.

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He doesn't like Donald Trump.

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And I understand some of the reasons because of his past political activities, being a

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businessman in New York when Hillary was a senator, but I mean, so far, he is saying

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the right things and he's better than the other candidates.

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Yeah, look, I like Glenn and I look forward to asking him what his beef is with Donald

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Trump.

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People do evolve politically.

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I don't think Trump was all that politically aware or interested when the country was stronger

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and he was building his business.

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I don't think he still is.

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He is right.

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He's played the game.

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If you're a businessman, if you don't put campaign contributions into the pockets of

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the politicians, they don't even listen to you.

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It's not that you're buying favors.

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You can't even buy an audience and you have an obligation when you have thousands of people

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working for you to get your point of view in front of government.

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So sure, he has a relationship.

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And frankly, his attitude was we have a federal limit on donations.

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So the first 10 politicians who walk in, give them the maximum, turn them on their way.

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They're all worthless anyway.

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And now when they show up asking for money, say, oh, I'd love to help you, but I've already

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hit my legal maximum.

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Well, I know this.

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If we did have a president that wasn't actively trying to put us into the world government

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and the TPP, we would, it'd be like untying a boat from the dock when the engine's on.

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We are tied up.

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I mean, they're fighting to keep us politically and financially suppressed to control us.

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All you gotta do is cut that out and we'll explode.

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What Alex Jones did right there at the end is give Roger Stone more things to tell him

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Trump is going to do, or in this case, actually Trump did do that.

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Yeah.

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Fucking.

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This is sad.

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This is so sad.

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This is remarkably sad because Roger Stone's excuse doesn't involve, why did he go to their

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wedding?

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Why did they invite him to his wedding?

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Roger Stone is making me feel bad for Alex.

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It's just watching, it's like, it's watching a man explain Santa Claus to a child.

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No, but you're getting, it's just, it's just all imaginary nonsense.

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You're getting a view of how easy that Russian meeting was.

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Oh yeah.

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Those Russian spies interrogating Alex.

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Oh man.

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It's this easy.

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Wow.

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That's crazy.

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I've heard that Putin does bad things.

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No, Putin's fighting the globalist.

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He's defending Christianity.

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Hooray!

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Everything Putin does is great now.

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Well, you know, Alex has very frequently said, I have from secret sources that he's secretly

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a Christian and is secretly defending Christendom.

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Yeah.

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How much do you think that comes from spies that he accidentally talks to in fake interviews

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with RT?

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Man.

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It's crazy.

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It's crazy.

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We've got one more clip and this is where I think Roger Stone pulls out the death blow.

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He's sick of the whole political correct agenda.

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He understands that freedom is on the ropes.

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And he's saying that gun free zones are places for crazy people to go kill.

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That's true.

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The guy, he'll just be carrying.

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He's carrying.

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Anytime you see him, trust me brother, he's carrying.

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He's had a concealed carry permit in New York, which they don't give out.

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They're very hard to get.

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Oh, and the media acted like it's weird that he'd want to have a gun when he's a target.

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How many death threats do you think he gets a week?

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I mean, it's extraordinary.

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And they asked us not to talk about it.

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Well, that shows how warped it is.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But he gets a lot of death threats?

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Oh, well sure, because he's speaking out on a lot of controversial subjects.

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So you do say he's tripled his security.

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He's tripled his security.

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He himself carries both his sons are gun enthusiasts, very active hunters and gun enthusiasts.

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They both carry.

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I love it.

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You know, they're strong believers in the second amendment.

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Oh, he was president.

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He'd carry.

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Well, you know, Obama's not carrying anything, but maybe Reagan carried Reagan had a holster,

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you know, on his calf.

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He was carrying about 80% of the time when he was running for president and when he was

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president.

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Well, you're crazy if you don't.

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That can't be true.

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Everybody's like, hey, let the cops have guns.

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What about us?

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Yeah, I'm sure he wishes he was carried when Hinckley tried to take him out or Hinckley

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and others tried to take him out.

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Just like the Sirhan Sirhan crap.

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Right.

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Reagan may have been carrying, but he also probably had a strap on.

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If it wasn't a gun, it was a strap on.

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If only RFK had been carrying when Sirhan Sirhan shot him.

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Right.

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And also Reagan has been fucked in the ass.

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According to that guy whose name I can't remember.

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But like, you see it, you see it there.

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Like that's the transformative moment.

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I believe the moment where Roger Stone is saying he loves guns.

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He's carrying all the time.

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His sons are big gun supporters.

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You hear Alex say, I love it.

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And then he's like, then we'd have a president who carries.

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Yep.

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And then he.

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That's it.

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Just giant boner right there.

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That's it.

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Now that's the last clip I have.

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So it did eventually come back to guns.

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Like that's, that's where we, we kind of started with that couple of ideas of, is it racism?

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Is it guns?

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All the racism's in there too.

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Oh, absolutely.

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But the death blow is guns.

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Well, I think that's.

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And of course Trump isn't carrying.

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No.

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Are you fucking insane?

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How could you possibly believe that?

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I don't think he has the manual dexterity to hold a gun, but be that as it may.

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That's the last clip.

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And at the end of November 9th, Alex does not end up saying, I support Trump or anything

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like that, but you can tell in his tone that he believes everything that Roger Stone is

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telling him.

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And this is going to get integrated into his worldview.

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I predict within two days, he is going to come out and say that he supports Trump.

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I'm guessing it will be that quick.

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I don't know yet, but that to me, this episode is the end of me being curious.

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Yeah.

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Roger Stone did it.

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Well, it's Roger Stone and Russia did it.

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That's right.

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Russia set it up.

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And then Roger Stone was the point man who knocked it over.

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Yeah.

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That's it.

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Roger Stone picked up the spare and it was a very easy spare.

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That was not a seven, 10 split.

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No, that was just the one.

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But uh, I mean, I think I'm going to keep, so it's so transparent.

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It's just like, Oh, yeah.

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I know like Roger could have done 20 minutes of research listening to a couple of clips

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and been like, Alex, like this, this, this, and this a lot.

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So I'm just going to say Trump does all that.

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And that's it.

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Yep.

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And Alex is going to believe me.

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Yep.

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Because of the groundwork that's been laid by Alex's pro-Russia positions, because of

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the fellow member of the 45 group, Steve Pechenik coming in and feeding Alex, the narrative

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that Trump knows everything.

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He's on the right side of things.

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He was, Alex was primed from a week ago when Pechenik was on.

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You remember that Steve Pechenik did say, or Alex said that Steve was asking to come

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on.

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Yeah.

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He was asking to come on as a setup for this prestige like a week and a half later when

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Roger Stone shows up on mysteriously on his book tour.

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We don't talk about his book much.

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They just talk about how great Trump is.

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Right.

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It's my, my investigation is over, but I'm going to keep going until just to hear the

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day.

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Yeah.

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You have to have the, the denouement.

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Yeah.

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We know, we know what happened now.

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Yeah.

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I think you and I and our policy wonks out there know a story that no one else knows.

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There is a massive.

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I don't know what the exact connection with Trump and Russia is.

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I don't know, but we know damn well that Alex has been compromised.

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Alex is an asset for Russia and he's a gullible fuck being used by the members of the 45 group,

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the Steve Pechenik, the, I don't know the rest of the people who are in it, but Roger

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Stone for sure, uh, that he's being used as a puppet for, uh, on their part in order to

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get Trump elected, probably serving Russia's interests.

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Absolutely.

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It's very, very, very clear.

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Yeah.

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So game over.

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Congratulations everybody.

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We made it to the end.

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We figured out the knowledge that we needed and uh, now we're all back to being impotent.

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It is kind of, it is kind of funny that, uh, like there's a certain amount of silliness

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to the idea that all of these powerful, uh, secretive, brilliant men are, have to go to

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a dumb, paranoid, delusional schizophrenic and, and do the minimal amount of convincing

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for them, for them to then get access to millions of people.

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Well yeah, it's because, uh, they couldn't do it themselves.

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Right.

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Of course not.

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Alex Jones has laid the groundwork of years and years of radicalizing and, uh, fringifying

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his audience to the point where there are millions of people who are up for grabs and

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it is a brilliant strategic move to tap into that because they're not going to leave you.

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They're brainwashed to a great extent.

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Yeah.

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I don't mean that like everyone who listens to Info Wars is, but a lot of people, you

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can see it in the trends of the calls.

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You can see back when Alex was saying that Trump was mobbed up, the callers were saying

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that.

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When Alex started to say, I like what he's saying, but I don't trust him.

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Every single caller mirrored that.

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I guarantee within a week everyone's going to be saying, saying, Hey, Trump is awesome.

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He is our only hope.

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And he's already had callers trying to convince him that Trump is awesome.

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Sure.

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A couple.

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And then you also have callers that I haven't even, like I haven't kept in everything just

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because I mean, we don't want to make this a five hour podcast, but there are callers

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who talk about how great Putin is.

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There are callers who call in and say that they're the good, Russia is the good guy in

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Ukraine and Syria.

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It's just, you know, they talk about Rush Limbaugh fans being ditto heads and just signing

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off on everything Rush Limbaugh believes.

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That's nothing compared to Alex Jones.

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And the reason he's dangerous is a smaller but more fervent audience.

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I don't.

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Yeah, definitely smaller but more fervent.

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Yeah, you're right.

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And the reason it's dangerous is part and parcel of his indoctrination of his audience

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is convincing them that they're free thinkers.

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Part of it is convincing them that what makes you info warriors is that you resist the brainwashing

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of the globalists.

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You think for yourself while at the same time falling in line with literally every narrative

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I'm pushing that happens to largely come from Russian propaganda.

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Yeah, it's fucking insane.

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Fucking insane.

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So I was listening back to an old episode of ours and we've come a long way.

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I was listening back to an old episode where I was making the argument that Alex is not

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someone who's involved with Russia, he's just an idiot.

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And we've come full circle.

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And all it takes is listening to his goddamn show.

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No, it's not even like we did a shit ton of investigative journalism.

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I did research into these specific narratives and convincing myself at least that he's not

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saying a true thing.

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It's not real.

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What he's complaining about, it has its roots in Russian interests, whether it's destabilizing

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countries or demonizing immigrants.

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So it's not that hard.

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It's very clear.

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And the fact that on this episode Alex admits that he got grilled by fucking Russian intelligence

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and didn't do anything about it, I mean, that's all you need to know.

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That clip alone could be our investigation.

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Pretty much.

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That clip and the Roger Stone interview are all you need.

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All the rest of it is just proof, just more proof.

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It has been a fun journey though.

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Like there's been a surprising number of twists and I know we're not done.

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I mean with our investigation.

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At least the curiosity piece.

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Yeah, there have been a surprising number of twists and turns all along the way where

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we're both going back and forth on what it is he's doing, what's going on.

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And then the fact that it just fucking funneled in so quickly to, oh, Russians compromised

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him.

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Roger Stone has made him part of his team.

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Well Roger Stone, that was my first prediction, but the context surrounding it I could never

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have predicted.

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Yeah, no, this is nuts.

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So yeah.

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What is it, so now that we know he's a Russian propaganda front, is there anything we can

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do?

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No.

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Like do we do something?

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I don't know.

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Tell the media, I guess.

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Yeah, I guess.

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But here's the thing.

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If any media wants to cover this, you've got fucking 80 hours of proof to go through.

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But I don't know.

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I don't know what we can do.

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It's terrible to imagine they would do their job.

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The job they get paid money to do that we're doing for free.

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Yeah, tell your friends, tell everybody you can.

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I mean, I don't know.

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Does anyone care?

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If you know people who would care, let them know.

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Post about this on Reddit, on subreddits.

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I'm not involved in any of that Reddit world, so if you are, please put this information

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out there.

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We've demonstrated fairly clearly some really fucked up stuff no one knows.

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And hey, if you can get the word out, get the word out.

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If you can't, I appreciate you listening, and that's enough for me.

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Yeah.

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Because what do we want to do?

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Get killed?

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I don't want to get killed.

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I don't know.

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I'm still, I'm still, I'm kind of cool with being killed.

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All right.

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Well, I hope you don't get killed.

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Look, everybody dies.

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Not everybody gets killed because they discovered Russian propaganda.

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Discovered Alex Jones is on the front.

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Yeah, exactly.

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There are plenty of ways to go.

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That one's not too bad.

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Ironically, he's a cutout.

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The thing that he accuses like Al Gore of being, it's insane.

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So I hope you don't die before tonight at 8 PM central when we will be broadcasting

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live at twitch.tv.

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It's not really ironic.

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It is purely, I'll let you get the plug in again.

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I know, I know.

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It's the entire Republican strategy of doing something, obviously, and then just saying

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that, no, we're not doing it, they are.

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Like that's it.

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And it's Alex's psychological sort of blueprint.

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It's his fingerprint.

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It's what he does.

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Honestly, if we were looking at it with that knowledge from the beginning, I bet we could

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have predicted this.

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But since that sort of revelation and the trends.

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Well, I mean, frankly, the moment we heard him say, people accuse me of being a Russian

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agent is like, oh, you're a Russian agent.

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Like, holy shit.

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Yeah.

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That's you.

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Yeah.

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And now that we have the information that he loves people attacking him and he gets

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off on it and that he has psychotic breaks where he pretends that he's standing up to

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people, it really brings into focus a very harrowing picture of an easily compromised

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man who's suffering so much.

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And I want to be empathic.

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My heart wants to go out to him because it's clear he's in a lot of pain.

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But because the way he expresses his pain hurts millions of people, I don't know.

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We'll be back.

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We'll continue this investigation until we get the Americana 2.0 George Washington reborn

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shit going.

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And if you'd like to listen to us tonight on Twitch.tv.

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Twitch.tv.

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Twitch.tv.

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Slash knowledge fight.

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We will be there discussing modern day Alex Jones.

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We'll be live.

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There's videos.

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You can see how long my hair is.

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It'll be our first live video podcast.

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Starting to be.

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It's going to be wacky.

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Starting hopefully at 8 p.m. sharp.

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Yeah.

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But we will see.

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Those people might be curious about that.

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We will not be releasing those episodes as podcasts.

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So as not to overwhelm the iTunes feed.

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But we will be posting them on the Twitch channel.

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They will remain there as archived episodes.

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And I believe I'll be posting them to YouTube.

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So there will be places online that you can get them.

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And if you can't like I know we have a lot of listeners in foreign countries.

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If you can't have access to those things like those websites are blocked or something like

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that.

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Let me know.

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Send me an email at knowledgefight at gmail dot com and we'll try and figure something

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out to send you MP4s or something like that.

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So we'll sort it out and I hope you're interested in that at all.

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Because I've done a lot of work preparing this.

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And it'd be real shitty if no one cares.

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It would be a bummer.

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That's for sure.

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It's almost as much of a bummer as finding out that Alex Jones is this dumb.

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Yeah.

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But our website if you want to go check it out knowledgefight dot com.

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Got links.

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Got all kinds of things on there.

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You can follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.

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We're on iTunes where you can subscribe leave a review of the show so people can find us

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more easily so the rest of the world can know that Alex Jones is a compromised asset of

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a hostile foreign power.

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That would be a nice thing for people to find out.

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It would be good if that knowledge was spread far and wide.

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Yeah.

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And if you want to find us on Facebook you can check us out there leave a review send

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a message.

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I always like to communicate with peeps.

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Yeah.

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You know and what I hear from so many from so many people who are anti-vaxxers.

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You know a lot of them are Russian propagandists.

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But I'll tell you there's one guy in specific who I don't know if he's a Russian propagandist.

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He might be.

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He very much might be.

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Who knows?

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I mean CIA dentist made him Russian teeth.

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I mean we don't know anything about this guy.

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No.

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That's our next investigation.

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Well that's part of this investigation.

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He hasn't shown up yet.

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That's true.

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We're talking about a man by the name of J.R.

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I want to know who shot him.

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No one shot him.

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That's a reference that nobody should get.

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No one shot him because he's anti-vaxx.

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But there is one there's just one thing that I would want to say to him.

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Are you related to Michael Rappaport?

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That's a good question.

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He's not.

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Are we sure?

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Spelled differently.

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Spelled differently?

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Yeah.

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Anyways the point being go fuck yourself John Rappaport.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.

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