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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan!

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We're a couple of dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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There's a twist to it though.

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There is.

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Which is one, we, uh, switch off on buying, uh, novelty beverages.

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Whoa-ho-ho-ho-ho, smooth start.

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Thank you, that's the big twist, right?

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You look lost and scared.

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That's the big twist!

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Yeah, that is, I guess.

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You've been fucking scaring me with, uh, the preview for this, like, your, your, your first words are,

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this might be very, very fun, or you might be furious.

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What am I supposed to do? I'm already shook.

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Well, you could introduce our beverage for the day, because this is your choice.

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It is stubborn soda agave vanilla cream soda, how does that, how does that taste, you're based?

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That is pretty good.

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I don't know, what do you want me to say? It's pretty good.

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I don't know, I want a better review.

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Tastes like vanilla, it's good, it's good. Tastes like cake frosting, but liquid.

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Okay, now, I think I know what the next part is.

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The next twist?

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Yeah, you know a lot about Alex Jones.

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That is correct. And you don't know anything.

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I don't know anything about Alex Jones.

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Let me tell you, what we're going to be talking about today, you know even less about.

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Which is very exciting for me.

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Like, uh, like Jordan alluded to, I told him, uh, before the show-

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This tastes like I'm drinking a vanilla candle.

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Or a cake.

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Yeah.

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It's like, it's like frosting.

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This is intense.

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It's weird.

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Yeah.

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I told Jordan that today we're going to be doing something a little bit different.

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And here's why.

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Uh, Alex Jones has been pretty reckless in being pretty violent in the current day.

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And I don't want to talk about that.

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Right.

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It's kind of boring.

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And, uh, I also don't want to, uh, feed into or really even dissect the CNN tapes that Project Veritas is putting out.

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Uh huh.

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Because they're just so obviously manipulatively edited, it's pointless.

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Yeah, he's James O'Keefe, he lied.

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Yeah, he's a monster, he's been, uh, discredited repeatedly in the past, and, uh, been sued.

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Repeatedly.

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Successfully.

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The fact that he's even still in the news that somebody, that somehow people are still paying attention to him is such a disappointing-

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Well, it's because he reinforces the narratives that other people wish were true.

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Right, but I mean, come on.

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Anybody could do that.

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Just-

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And a massive amount of, like, Koch Brothers or Mercer funding.

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That's true.

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So he has tons and tons of money, he gets to make these-

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Hey guys!

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Let's make sure billionaires control our world.

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Like, the most recent video he put out was about, uh, Zucker, the head of CNN.

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Uh, he's like, okay, here's the video.

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I've already, I've already taken you off track.

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I don't want to talk about the CNN videos.

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Alright, fuck it, we're getting into it!

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Well, the most recent one is legitimately James O'Keefe outside of Zucker's house.

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Alright.

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And he's like trying, he has his microphone, and he's like, hey, what about these tapes that I've been putting out, basically?

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To Zucker, as he walks and enters a car, and then O'Keefe's like, what a coward.

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Alright, dude, come on.

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Dude, just tweet at him. That's about as good as you're gonna get.

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Then, they reveal that they've been staking out in front of his house to get his morning routine down.

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Alright.

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So they're stalking him, basically.

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See, now I'm on board. This is something that we should adopt right there.

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Don't fucking, don't fucking go to your congressman's house.

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Right.

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Get a millionaire, get a thousand, ten thousand people, and just sit around outside their house.

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Legitimately, if we had enough money, we could find out where Alex Jones' studio is.

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I mean, it wouldn't be that hard, we could employ the exact same tactics, and when he's like, hey, why are you following me around?

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I'm like, I'm a journalist!

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That's true, we could do that.

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Why are you ducking my questions, Alex?

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That'd be fun.

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Yeah, give us money, I'll do it.

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I assume we'd get shot.

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Probably.

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Right, we would totally get shot.

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Yeah, he fills his hands.

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Self-defense!

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Yeah.

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Oh great, alright.

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The thing is, we're currently in the middle of an Alex Jones distraction.

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Yes.

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Which is, whenever, I don't know exactly what the, there's no through line exactly why he does the things he does.

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Yes there is.

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Money.

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Brain damage.

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Brain damage and money.

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Brain damage and money.

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But every now and again, something will pop up, and it'll be, look over here, look over here.

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It's the red sheet to the charging bull of truth.

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Right.

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The truth is about to smack Alex Jones right in the face that he's been lying about a bunch

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of stuff, and he gets the red cape out and distracts the bull and it goes and chases

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that.

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Right.

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This week.

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The Trump form of government.

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Right.

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At the end of last week, he had Robert David Steele on as a guest, who we've discussed

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in the past when he came on and was saying that Trump needs his own propaganda TV network.

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Of course.

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He was the guy who came on and was like, Alex, I need you to talk to Trump for me.

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I have a list of suggestions he needs to read.

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Right.

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That's fantastic.

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You don't remember that guy?

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No.

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All right.

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Are you sure we talked to him?

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We talked about him, for sure.

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Was he on the one with the DC guy who was propagandizing the whole thing?

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No.

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No.

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It was not the Dennis Montgomery stuff.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No.

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We just talked about him for a little bit, because he was basically saying that they

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need massive election reform in order to, like, make liberals-

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Voter suppression and, you know, the destruction of democracy.

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He has a lot of really bad ideas.

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But he came on the show at the end of last week, on Thursday, and he dropped this nugget.

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Let me see what Robert David Steel has to say.

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Go ahead.

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No, I agree with that.

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And let me just point out that pedophilia does not stop with sodomizing children.

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It goes straight into terrorizing them to adrenalize their blood and then murdering

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them.

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It also includes murdering them so that they can have their bone marrow harvested as well

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as body parts.

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Nephilia is much- This is the original growth hormone.

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Yes.

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What is fucking happening?

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Yes.

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It's an anti-aging thing.

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It's an anti-aging thing?

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And this may strike your listeners as way out, but we actually believe that there is

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a colony on Mars that is populated by children who were kidnapped and sent into space on

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a 20-year ride.

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So that once they get to Mars, they have no alternative but to be slaves on the Mars colony.

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There's all kinds of-

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Well, look, I know 90% of the NASA missions are secret and I've been told by high-level

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NASA engineers that you have no idea.

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There's so much stuff going on.

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But then it goes off into all that.

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I mean, that's the kind of thing the media jumps on.

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But I know this.

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We see a bunch of a mechanical wreckage on Mars and people say, oh, look, it looks like

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mechanics.

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They go, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist.

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Clearly, they don't want us looking into what's happening.

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Every time probes go over, they turn them off.

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Alex, you're one of the most original guys on the air.

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And you asked, what should you do?

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I think you should be the truth channel in America.

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He can't be.

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He doesn't know how.

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But so Alex Jones does this.

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He has crazy people on as guests.

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They say ridiculous shit.

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Then everyone is like-

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Look at how ridiculous this shit is.

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Right.

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But then Alex plays the card of everyone saying that I said that there's bases on the moon.

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I didn't say that.

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Right.

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Play me a clip of me saying that.

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Well, we played the clip.

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You had a guy who you have vocally said you respect his opinion about and he said it.

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And then your response was, everything that NASA does, most of it is secret.

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There's machine wreckage on Mars.

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You're reinforcing it without actually saying you believe in it.

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Of course.

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But it's still all a trap.

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It's all a trap for the media.

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It's all a trap for people who don't like Alex Jones to clown on him for Mars-based

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stuff.

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Yeah, I've seen this one in particular on the Twitter.

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Yeah.

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I saw this one.

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NASA came out and said, no.

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Of course.

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Yeah.

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NASA said, come on, bro.

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They had a very put-upon scientist walk up to a podium, rub his forehead, and just go,

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come on, guys.

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Why do I have to do this?

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And the only real function that we get out of this, I think it's always funny when official

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organizations stoop below their status.

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Oh, it's fantastic.

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And are like, just shut up.

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That sort of stuff.

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I always think conceptually that's pretty funny.

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But at the same time, by NASA putting out articles about it, by people not being really

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accurate and just making fun of him for it, the end result is that people are exposed

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to Alex Jones.

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If they watch that full clip, they get to hear him talk about how terrible pedophilia

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is.

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And that might set off a trigger in them to be like, oh, this guy's a champion against

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pedophiles.

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Right.

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I need to dig more into this.

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There is a decent chance that people will end up listening to him and being like, oh,

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he didn't say that there's bases on Mars.

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He was just allowing free speech on his show.

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Right.

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So there is a negative outcome that can come from falling for this bull trick, this red

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cape.

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My question is always like, what's the end game?

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For whom?

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The Twitter thing, which is amazing how Alex can just keep fucking showing up in the world

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every time.

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Every week, it seems like he's somewhere on the internet and everybody's laughing at him.

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It's like, are we helping?

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Are we?

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Yeah.

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No, I mean, no.

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We could be.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But no.

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It's not doing any good and it's just making it more likely because the more you click

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on it, the more they're like, oh, well, this is a thing people click on.

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So the more they do that, the less likely you are to do anything fucking useful and

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you're just going to clown on them all the time.

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Everybody thinks, and I appreciate our listeners who engage with stuff appropriately and in

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a smart way, but I do get tweets from a lot of people and texts and stuff about how like,

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do you see this new Alex Jones meme?

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And I think that there's a mentality that people think that you can just mock him out

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of existence, not realizing that no, you can't.

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That's not going to work.

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There's going to need to be a much more deliberative, focused, truth-based exposure of what he believes

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in and who he actually is.

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What's hiding behind those silly things is a bigot.

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In the same way that you're fucking, everybody's fucking reading Trump's tweet on those two

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fucks who gives a shit.

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I hope all of them get fucking hit by a meteor.

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I don't fucking care.

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They're assholes too.

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He's taking away health care.

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Shut the fuck up about his tweets.

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Go fucking fight.

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And making...

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I mean, I'm not going to.

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I'm very scared of the outside.

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And he's actively trying to make it so we can't vote in the future.

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He's destroying the environment, taking away health care.

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It's going to be super weird how he wins re-election with 97% of the vote.

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It's going to be crazy.

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And Alex Jones's response will be like, he's a strong leader, finally the polls are right.

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Finally they've fixed the polls.

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So we have that to look forward to.

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The complete dissolution of democracy.

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So here's the deal.

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I don't want to talk too much about, I just think that it's nonsense.

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Of course.

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And it's not worth discussing most of the stuff that Alex is on at the end of last week.

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Like I said, at the beginning of the week he was on vacation.

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I don't know what's going on.

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He's living a wild life, la vida loca.

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Did they play Life on Mars for Dakota on that?

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Because that's perfect.

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Nope.

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They did not.

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They should have.

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They should have.

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Anything from that album.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But here's the deal also.

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I, as this episode comes out, will be getting surgery.

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And I want to treat myself.

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So I'm doing, I've decided to do a complete audible on this episode and explore where

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this idea of Bases on Mars comes from.

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Alright, now I'm way fucking in.

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So the rest of this episode...

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Now I am way fucking in!

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Are you kidding me?

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Yes!

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The rest of this episode will have very little to do with Alex Jones.

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Okay.

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But it will have to do with where...

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90% of our audience just clicked pause and deleted from the iTunes app.

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I promise you that this will actually be maybe more entertaining than Alex Jones.

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So there are a lot of people who believe in space bases and what have you.

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There's a lot of, that community, the UFO community is very large and very diverse.

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You can find tons of people who cite...

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Far more diverse than Alex Jones' audience.

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Totally.

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Yeah.

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And I'm sure there's more than 3% African Americans than the UFO.

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Maybe not.

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I haven't seen studies.

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But there are a lot of people who believe, you know, a lot of rampant speculation from

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years past.

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There's a lot of people who have been fooled by fake documents about stuff.

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And that's all fun.

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We could do a deep dive into that.

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Or we could even do a deep dive into stuff like MUFON.

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There's an organization that keeps track of self-reported UFO experiences.

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MUFON?

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Yeah.

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It's called Multinational UFO Network something.

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I don't remember what it stands for.

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But they keep track.

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I assumed it was Mulan's brother.

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Nope.

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Or Mufasa's son.

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Mulan, the movie that very traumatized Mike Pence.

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Yeah.

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Oh god.

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What a...

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Why do these people happen?

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I don't know.

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I don't eat dinner with anybody other than my wife.

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Or I don't eat dinner with a woman other than my wife mother.

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Can't be alone.

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What happened to him?

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Like, if he had a radio show, his childhood has to have been the most fucked up thing.

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Yeah.

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So MUFON stands for the Mutual UFO Network.

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It's a non-profit investigative body.

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I mean, they have maps of where UFOs have been sighted and stuff like that.

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They have fun.

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They're a good group.

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Yeah.

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And we could get into all that, but so much of that is apocryphal.

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So much of it is basically just, hey, I saw this.

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And there's no real evidence of that.

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So I could, you know, it's as good as people writing down their dreams and putting them

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online.

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Right, right, right.

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Like, okay, this is as credible as anything else.

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Or ghost hunters.

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Yeah.

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That's no fun.

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No.

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So I've tried to find some more concrete versions of space-based stuff.

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All right.

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And one of the organizations...

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And we're going straight to Space Command for our first clip, right?

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No, we don't really have...

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Space Command doesn't really come into play because that's a pedestrian title.

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That's a title that the people in the know would never call something Space Command.

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That's for Alex Jones and his ilk.

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There is an organization called Project Camelot.

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And it is run by a lady named Carrie Callahan.

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And what she does...

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What she does...

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Carrie Callahan.

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Uh-huh.

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Okay.

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Apparently, she had a very large inheritance.

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And she started an organization where she has Skype interviews with people about their

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weird experiences.

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All right.

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And she's had a ton of interviews with people who claim that they were personally involved

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with a lot of really fucked up stuff.

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Sweet.

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So one of the people that we have mentioned in Passing in the Past, a guy by the name

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of Andrew Basiago, he's done some interviews with Project Camelot.

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He is the guy who claims that he, as a child, was in a time travel program.

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Okay.

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And he went back to the Gettysburg Address.

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He's been years in the future, like into 2040.

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He's been to that far in the future.

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All right.

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He went back millions of years in the past.

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All right.

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He was a time traveler.

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He read HGULs one time.

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When he was a kid, Barack Obama was in the program with him, and the two of them time

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traveled together.

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Now I've never been happier.

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Andrew Basiago also.

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I choose to believe that's true.

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Sure.

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Of course.

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He also ran for president in 2016 and is running in 2020.

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So we have that to look forward to.

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All right.

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He also, as I recall, is a big proponent of...

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What's his name again?

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Andrew Basiago.

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All right.

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No longer does anybody say Bernie would have won.

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Now we say Basiago would have won.

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We could have had Basiago.

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We could have had Basiago.

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Look.

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He's a time traveler.

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We had one time traveler.

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Why didn't we go for two?

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Also, I would argue if he's a time traveler and he's been to 2040, he would know he

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would lose that race.

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Right?

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It seems like...

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Well, but maybe he knows that he's going to win the 2020 race, and he just had to get

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his profile out there in 2016.

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Which clearly he succeeded in, seeing as you have no idea who the fuck he is.

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Of course.

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He also believes in Stargates.

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He's big into that.

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All right.

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He also has made reference to the fact that he is half dolphin, and has...

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This dude's just a grand bag.

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Yeah.

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He's just throwing it out there.

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He has super swimming abilities because of it.

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A lot of these Stargates...

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Is this stuff he makes up?

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Yes.

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Or are people just...

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No, no, no, no.

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I'd be more like, are people just asking him leading questions and he just agrees?

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Is he just yes-anding every conspiracy theory thrown at him?

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Well, you know how Andy Daley creates characters largely as getting in hostile interviews with

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Scott Aukerman or these people on Comedy Bang Bang, who ends up creating the robustness

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of Don D'Mello or of August Lint.

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I'm guessing that a lot of it is the same methodology, but about creating these like,

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yeah, Stargates are mostly found underwater.

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That's why they had to make me half dolphin.

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What about chimeras?

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Are they real?

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I'm a chimera.

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You fear me, Alex Jones?

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Wait.

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So if he is a chimera, and he has been on Alex Jones' show...

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He hasn't been on Alex Jones' show.

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Oh, he hasn't been on the show.

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Not to my knowledge.

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He's been on Project Camelot.

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All right.

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But here's the interesting thing.

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We were texting the other day about how mysterious it is that Alex Jones never brings up Louis

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Mench.

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Yeah.

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And how she would be an obvious target for him if he was real.

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He's mad at anybody who's against Trump.

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Right.

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And so she has created this whole cottage industry online of being super against Trump

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and having secret information.

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Right.

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Seems like Alex Jones- Slash making up information.

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Right.

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I realize in hindsight also, I'd like to apologize.

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We haven't been nearly as harsh about her as we should be.

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But it's just- No.

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In the beginning, you and I had this very short conversation where you were like-

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Right.

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And I regret it.

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You know, we could give her the- and I'm sitting there screaming at you.

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I regret that.

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Yeah.

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This is on me.

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I gave- I'm not here to say I told you so.

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No.

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And I didn't- I wasn't saying I believed the things she was saying.

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I was saying that she was in a different class of commentator.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Lunatic commentator than Alex Jones.

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Right.

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And as time has gone on, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

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And I don't think I stand by my comments from the past.

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It seems as though they have become mirror images.

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Right.

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And it seems like Alex Jones should be talking about her a bunch.

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Yeah.

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Should be like, look at this crazy broad.

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Yeah.

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See, he hates women.

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He hates people who are against Trump.

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It seems perfect.

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Yep.

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And the fact that he doesn't makes- And it's one thing where he finally gets- he

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could tee off on the lies of the left, you know?

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Every time something is proven wrong.

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Like, these guys are just making- yeah.

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Yeah.

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He could easily do that.

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But- and the fact that he doesn't is a little mysterious to me.

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I'm not sure it means anything.

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Control that position.

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I have no idea.

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And to see that as it may, he also doesn't ever talk about these people.

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These Andrew Baziagos- The Project Camelots.

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Yes.

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This whole world of stuff.

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And there's also a reason.

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It's because they expose how stupid his ideas are.

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Oh, really?

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Well, no.

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I mean- Not directly.

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No.

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By their- by their words.

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Okay.

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They expose that the things he's talking about are horseshit.

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Okay.

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Like, Andrew Baziago saying he's a half dolphin warrior, it would make lunacy of Alex

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Jones is, there's half fish people walking around.

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Right.

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It's like, hey, if there are half fish people walking around, you're talking about it.

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Why not have one of the fish people on your show?

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Right.

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Because if you do, you interview them and you're like, oh no, this guy's not.

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Exactly.

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It really showcases that the real world version of the fake shit that Alex talks about is

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utter garbage.

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Project Camelot is almost if Alex Jones' 12th dimensional dreams and lies all suddenly became

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true.

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Which is harping what Alex Jones is talking about.

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Yes.

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More or less.

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And so she- Keri Callahan does this Project Camelot.

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She puts out really long YouTube interviews with people.

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Excellent.

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And one of the great sort of hallmarks of her interview style is she believes fucking

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everything.

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Now that's great.

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She's like, like, you know, George Norrie on Coast to Coast AM is very- he has a philosophy

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of never make people feel weird.

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Right.

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And so whenever people call in with outlandish stories, he's kind of- he never is like, shut

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up, you're stupid.

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Keri is like far, even farther.

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She's like, oh, totally.

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That's fantastic.

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You say crazy shit and she's like, oh yeah, of course.

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I want- see now that seems more intellectually honest to me than a Fox News interview where

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they pretend to push back.

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No, totally.

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It's really just a- yeah, fuck yeah.

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Believe it all.

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I don't give a shit.

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That sounds fun.

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She's got a reason to suspect that she doesn't believe the things she's saying, so I kind

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of agree with you.

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So she's, she's a professional believer.

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Yeah.

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Like what she's paid to do is just believe everything everybody says all the time.

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Yeah, more or less.

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Love it.

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And I don't know if she's getting paid all that much, quite frankly.

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Although the thing is, her videos often have as many views as Alex Jones' videos online.

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She's- and she doesn't- she hasn't lost her ad role either.

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No.

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She could be making- she could be making bank.

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She had a real serious cut in YouTube ad revenues.

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Okay.

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Because they're switching over to that YouTube TV format, they're shifting into like a lot

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of fringe stuff and political stuff is getting cut in terms of their ad revenue.

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Gotcha.

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They're- I mean, it's across the board.

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It's not like- Alex Jones can claim they're trying to censor libertarians, but at the

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same time, like the Majority Report and Secular Talk, those two channels have also had massive

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cuts in terms of what they were making.

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So it, you know, who cares?

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Gotcha.

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Kari Callahan, Project Camelot have done some very interesting interviews over the years

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and one of them we're going to be discussing today.

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Excellent.

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But before we do, I'd like to read a little bit of her perspective from an interview she

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did with Sneaky Mag, which is a Sneaky magazine.

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All right, all right, let's hear about Sneaky Mag.

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This is- this will give you a good sense of- I think this is a good precursor for the interview

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we're going to be listening to.

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I'll start with the interviewer.

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So, what do you think aliens have such an interest in Earth?

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So why do you think they have such an interest in Earth?

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What's so good or special about us?

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Her answer.

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There are many things on Earth they find quite desirable and I have a good number of whistleblowers

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who have given me information to that effect.

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My whistleblowers are predominantly ex-military, some of whom are still working for the secret

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government and who have spoken to me off the record.

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The aliens are very interested in our gold, for example.

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Our gold?

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Our gold?

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Yes.

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I'm told that gold on Earth is relatively easy to access when compared to getting it

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off an asteroid, which obviously would have issues when it comes to mining for gold.

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I mean, yeah, that's true.

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Rebuttal.

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You also mentioned aliens wanting to do business and form alliances with us.

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Yes.

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Earth is also a very pleasurable place to do business.

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There's also a reason to use Earth as a jumping off point to explore the rest of the solar

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system and the galaxy.

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Also, apparently human females are considered to be very useful for breeding and genetic

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experimentation.

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The extraterrestrials also come here for food.

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Certain reptilian races consider us a food source and then there are those that simply

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want to do commerce with us and utilize us as allies.

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We're very good at building things and we also send troops to conflicts around the universe.

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Now this is important.

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Human soldiers are being sent to interstellar conflicts?

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Her answer.

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Those who are alleged to be going to Iraq or Afghanistan are actually being sent off

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planet to places like Mars to fight battles alongside other alien races.

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Those men and women will have their minds wiped when they come back.

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This is why we're having so many suicides with ex-soldiers.

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In some cases, their minds have been wiped so many times they become unbalanced as a

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result.

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When they return, they don't know where they've been.

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They think they've been to the Middle East, but they've actually been elsewhere.

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So this is a good primer.

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I love this one.

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I have never been in love quite like this before.

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So what are your thoughts?

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Man, oh man, ex-military, some still work for the secret government.

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We're off to a great start.

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First sentence, secret government?

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I'm way in.

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Love it.

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I'm way in.

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Gold is easy enough to find on Earth, which is, I mean-

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Seems not true.

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Sure.

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I don't know.

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Is there a lot of gold other places?

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I don't know.

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You know, well, here we go, okay.

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So gold is really only manufactured in the center of super hot stars.

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So when they explode, that's why Earth has so many different precious metals on it, because

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of fusion and stars exploding in that shit, right?

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Something along those lines.

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As I understand.

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Yeah.

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So it would seem that planets would probably be easier to get gold from than asteroids.

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Yeah, I would assume so.

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Is gold on asteroids?

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I don't know.

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I think there are trace minerals on some asteroids, but I have no idea about gold specifically.

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Alrighty, so that one checks out.

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I'm gonna say that one's true.

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But do you understand why they want our gold?

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That's not important.

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Why do you feel like that's important?

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There are so many uses for gold.

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What if they need to fix their iPhones?

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Computer chips, it's a conductor.

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We're all good there.

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Quite frankly, asked and answered.

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They have interstellar travel.

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Yeah.

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But they still haven't figured out to get gold.

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We need the gold for wiring and shit.

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Right.

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Okay.

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Earth is a very pleasurable place.

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Totally.

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That I disagree with entirely.

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Well, it would be a pretty pleasurable place if you could leave.

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Yes, that's true.

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Like if you had the option of leaving the planet, it'd be nice to be here for a while.

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It's like vacationing.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah, no, there are plenty of good places to vacation here.

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I'd love to go to Cabo, but I wouldn't want to live there.

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Nah, no, no, no.

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I would imagine Earth on a grander scale is basically that.

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All right, well now you've convinced me.

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We're two for three.

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Secret government is still out.

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Could be, might not be.

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Not sure.

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Jury is still in chambers.

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Not disprovable.

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Women, probably better for genetic experiments in breeding than men are.

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Well, yeah, if those are what she's saying.

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That's the binary.

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I would say that I don't, since I have no experience with alien races, I'm not sure

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how much genetic experimentation on us would be relevant to them, seeing as we're completely

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different species.

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Well, how much, then why do we do genetic experimentation on other species on our planet?

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Fine.

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Also there's curiosity.

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So if we're just going to go by curiosity, that's still a worthwhile endeavor.

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Sure, sure.

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Now we're getting into like Lovecraftian stuff.

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Right.

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So now we're three for three.

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Okay.

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Secret government's still out.

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Eating people, the reptilians want to eat people.

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This one, maybe, maybe not.

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I don't know.

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I've never eaten a person.

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What about Komodo dragons?

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Right.

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They eat people.

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Do they eat people?

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They can.

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Well, yeah, that's true.

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Yeah, I'm sure they're-

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But I think everybody can eat people.

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Well, growing up-

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If you try hard enough.

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Growing up in Hawaii, there was always sort of a slight fear of the Komodo dragon, even

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though I don't think it's native to Hawaii.

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No, I don't think so.

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We had a lot more lizards around, and the idea of a giant lizard that can eat humans

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was always kind of a little bit scary.

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That is a scary one.

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Sure.

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It's like dinosaurs.

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They're poisonous, aren't they?

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They're venomous.

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That's their big deal.

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But I also think that when you're talking about the reptilians eating humans, it's not

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just eating our flesh.

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It's also like harvesting emotions and stuff like that.

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Oh, I did not know that one.

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Yeah, in these communities, there is a lot of feelings of like, the world is so negative

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because you have to create negative energy that these demonic beings can feast off of.

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Okay, so we're back to adrenochrome, then.

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Basically.

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Basically.

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All right.

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Now, I have not heard that theory before.

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Which one?

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That the reason that soldiers are committing suicide is because they've traveled the universe

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and had their minds wiped.

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And got men in black.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I do find that both offensive insofar as that completely trivializes their destructive

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post-traumatic stress disorder.

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You're basically trying to say...

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First of all, she's trying to say that there is no war in the Middle East going on.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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And all those hundreds of thousands and millions of people who have died as a result of it.

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Fake news.

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Fake news.

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Yeah.

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So that is offensive.

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That saying, people die wouldn't cause PTSD.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Like, it's just like, oh no, it must be something more than that.

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Obviously, it's mind wipes done after you've gone and been a space soldier.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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Now, that said...

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Which is so stupid.

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It is offensive.

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It's terrible.

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That said, I want to live in that world.

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That's the world I want to live in.

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But this world sucks.

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Give me the world where universe traveling soldiers are mind wiped.

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But that's why people gravitate towards stuff like this.

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Because it is a much more pleasant world.

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Oh, absolutely.

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In the sense that it's fantastical and wild.

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Yeah.

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So today...

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Anything can happen.

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Are you done with your breakdown?

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I think so.

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Okay.

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So today, Jordan, we're going to be going over...

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So what I'm saying is, she's four for five with a...

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No, four for six with a jury still out on the secret government.

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Yes.

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So today, we're going to be looking at an interview that she did with a gentleman by

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the name of Randy Kramer.

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All right.

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So Randy Kramer, to give you a little bit of...

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Just a syllabus of what we're about to hear.

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He is, according to himself, a super soldier.

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And maybe I'll just let it play out.

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I don't want you to...

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I want you to be surprised by the things he says.

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Are we talking Kurt Russell super soldier or Dolph Lundgren super soldier?

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I don't even know where to draw the line.

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Okay.

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I'll let him sort of tell his story.

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I don't want to put words in his mouth.

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And so, like I said, this is not necessarily the beginnings of the idea that there are

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colonies on Mars and stuff like that, bases on Mars.

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I mean, those have probably been around since the Greeks or whatever.

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I would assume so.

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The ancient Greeks, no.

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Well, we're actually...

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Not yesterday.

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We're going to get to them in a minute.

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Fuck yes.

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They come up.

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Of course they do.

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But the...

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Like I said, this isn't the beginning of the ideas of the Mars bases and Mars colonies.

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But when you look into it and the stuff that's being spewed online, there is very little

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in terms of people who have come out and said that they were involved in those things.

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And therefore, I think it's worthwhile to take a peek at it.

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Excellent.

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So I will let this thing start with Carrie Callahan, host of Project Camelot, giving

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the introduction and giving some of Randy's credits.

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Randy Cramer is a US Marine and super soldier who served for 17 years on Mars, defending

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the Mars colonies.

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He got his start in Project Moon Shadow and was assigned to the Mars Defense Force from

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a covert military branch, United States Marine Corps, special section set up by President

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Eisenhower as a unit designed to handle all matters of ET contact.

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I'm really glad that that's your reaction.

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Why are we even doing a regular show?

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Fuck that.

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Now it is all about Carrie Callahan.

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Knowledge fight, no thank you.

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That's hard and mean.

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Yeah, I did tell you before the show that this could indicate a new direction that we

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could take the show in.

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Oh, fuck yeah.

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And we just might.

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Oh, God.

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If you guys enjoy this episode, please do let us know, because I am more than willing

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to do more episodes about these whistleblowers and stuff like that.

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Oh, absolutely.

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So what you can take away from that is that this guy, Randy, he has been, Randy Kramer,

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excuse me, he has been on Mars for 17 years.

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He is a super soldier, which at this point we still don't really know exactly what that

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means.

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Uh-uh.

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He will explain.

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US Marine.

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Sure, but I'm going to speculate that he's not.

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Did you look it up?

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I can't find any evidence that he is, but once his story is fleshed out, I'll explain

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why I'm not convinced he's actually a Marine.

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Is it the Mars thing?

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It's the Mars thing, isn't it?

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I feel like you're not giving him the benefit of the doubt.

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The Mars thing, I will be honest, is a piece of it.

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But based on his timeline and stuff like that, I have reasons to be very skeptical.

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But at the same time, if he was, I don't want to take anything away from his service and

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I appreciate it, even if he is a little bit nutty.

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And even if it was on Mars.

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Sure, absolutely.

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Also three years.

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I think I would appreciate that far more, because that, it's a long drive to Mars.

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Especially if he's been there 17 years, which means, you know, that was 2000.

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We probably could have gotten to Mars in what?

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Oh no, this didn't, he left Earth in like 1983 or something like that.

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So let's take a look.

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In 1983, how long do you think it would have taken to get to Mars?

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Infinite time.

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A few years, at least, right?

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Four or five years?

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More than that, I think.

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Maybe more.

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Yeah.

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So he's roughly, he is a super soldier because he's 75 years old.

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Well, we're gonna get to that.

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Okay.

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I promise you all of these...

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Like, relativity is involved, he has to be, his personal time is so much longer than everybody

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else.

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I promise you all of these concerns will be addressed poorly.

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Okay, wonderful.

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So like I said, I'm not entirely sure what the super soldier stuff is at this point,

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but Randy comes in and...

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I'm hoping for serum.

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Well, let's see.

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So without diverging too much, which it did a little bit there, in the 1960s, pretty much

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became the priority technology with super soldier program technology.

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We were really developing the genetic alteration technology and the ability to really, from

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the ground up, build super soldiers.

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Because before that, what we really had was nothing but trauma-based mind control super

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soldier technology.

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MK-Ultra.

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It's really damaging to the subject and causes the subject to have a really short lifespan.

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So if you want to guarantee that you have a subject that can get a job done for you

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at the hand of a very, very large stick, it'll happen, but you're not gonna get it for very

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long and it's gonna burn itself out or self-destruct to become completely mentally unstable or

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something.

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Checks out.

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The United States Marine Corps Special Section being the organization that it was or is and

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being beholden to the O's and the special code that it is, it really was doing plenty

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of tests and assessments about this technology and was assessing that much of this trauma-based

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mind control was not working well.

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MK-Ultra.

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And so they essentially did a study that said, hey everybody, we've done a study and we think

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that your methodology of trying to create super soldiers is bad and we have a better

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methodology that we'd like to try and we'd like to suggest and we think you all should

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consider why this is a better way of doing things than what you're doing because we think

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what we call going with the grain training versus this against the grain training that

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you're doing will not only create a better subject, super soldier subject, but they'll

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last longer, they won't go crazy if it works right, and they'll actually want to do their

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job because you won't beat them and rape them every day.

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Wow, that took a harsh turn right there at the end.

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Quite, quite, quite.

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That was very fast.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So they're talking about MK-Ultra, the MK-Ultra didn't do a great job of creating super soldiers.

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Certainly didn't.

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Did a great job of giving us one flu over the cuckoo's nest.

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Yes.

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Sometimes a great notion.

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Also the Unabomber.

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The electric Kool-Aid acid test.

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Sure.

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Very good stuff overall.

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Yeah.

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Take the Unabomber out of there.

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Yeah, take the Unabomber out of there.

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Except his writing.

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Got great literature.

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His writing's great.

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But that's what MK-Ultra really did.

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Created great artists.

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It created great writers.

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Yeah, but at the same time...

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John Holmes is go, like you got the whole thing.

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Without doing too deep a dive into MK-Ultra, it is a program that did exist like in the

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50s and...

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They fed people LSD.

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Well that was one part of it.

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There were also weird psychological tests that were done on people in terms of abusing

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them or withholding things and seeing what would happen.

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Right.

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Which was the hallmark of science in the 60s is just like...

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Definitely.

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Hey, fuck it.

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I don't know what's going to happen.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And it's...

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Rules and ethics.

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Nah.

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It's a horrible thing and it has come out.

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There is evidence of that, but there's no evidence that it continued past its end date,

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as it were, which is, you know, not...

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That's what the secret government wants you to think?

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Exactly.

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Secret government.

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Secret government.

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Deep state.

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Damn you.

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So this all started with Eisenhower, apparently, as Randy Kramer tells it.

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He explains that basically they needed super soldiers and they were working with space

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programs and what have you, and that's what Eisenhower was really talking about in his

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exit speech.

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Right.

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He was actually talking about this whole program and off planetary stuff.

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Also Eisenhower was the first super soldier, and that's what he was talking about when

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he used the slogan, be like Ike.

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Right.

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Be a super soldier.

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Exactly.

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So but in this clip we have Randy going on and on and talking about how, hey, there was

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an old way and it was bad and they wanted to go a new way.

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Still not really even explaining what they did.

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Nah.

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Like he's not explaining the program at all.

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Genetic alteration building them from the ground up.

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Well, here we go.

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He does talk a little bit about that, but still not all that specific.

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In the late 1960s Project Moonshadow was formed, and by late 1969 my DNA was being concocted

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in a petri dish somewhere, and then when I was born in the middle of 1970, I was genetically

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engineered from the ground up at that point to be a super soldier fighting machine, and

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was implanted back into my mother's womb and came out nine months later and raised as normally

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as my parents could figure that everything was happening.

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They had no knowledge or anything weird was happening.

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They had a pretty strong religious background, so any of the sort of more weird metaphysical

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things that were occurring, they could certainly just sort of write off as being a demonic

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attack on the household or something that was much more spiritually answerable to their

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religious system.

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So what we can take from that is his parents were crazy, which would lead to a higher incidence

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of the kid being a little nutty.

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So he was genetically created in a test tube in a lab.

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Implanted back into his mother's womb, which I'm a big fan of.

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Right, and then born and raised as normally as possible.

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Which is why we need to stop Planned Parenthood.

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I'm sure they would have aborted him.

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Sure, get him on an interview there with Alex.

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So he goes on.

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As opposed to being something maybe more material and extraterrestrial and technological.

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But they were certainly there when strange bruises and strange burns and things were

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appearing in the middle of the night and would wake up and be, where did this come from?

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So they're getting old and they don't remember a lot of that stuff when we talk about it,

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but there are certainly conversations that we've had that they certainly recall strange

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things were going on, but they kind of live in their own universe as well in some way.

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So it was really, they weren't really sure what was happening.

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I recently briefed them and then they actually took it very well.

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I leaked my parents.

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I have to say they actually did it very well.

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Of course they did.

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And they took it well.

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They smiled at you and were like, oh, all right.

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You're too old for us to put you in therapy.

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Yeah, I don't know what to do with this one.

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Yeah, can't 5150 you on this.

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I'm sure after that briefing, they turned and looked at each other and were like, oh,

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maybe we need to dial it back a little bit.

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Maybe this is partly our fault.

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I shouldn't have smoked while I was pregnant, but I shouldn't have used God while I was

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pregnant.

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Well, I mean, a lot of those things too, like mysterious bruises and stuff like that.

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You know, you speculated sleepwalking.

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That's entirely possible.

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There's also possibilities of like the, usually when there are bruises and stuff mysteriously

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on children, it's an indication of abuse.

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Stigmata.

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Yeah.

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Stigmata walking out from his childhood, especially if his parents were super religious.

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Absolutely.

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That definitely gives you that pause there.

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I'm not saying that is the case, but it is entirely possible.

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And when you bring up stuff like that, like it is at the very least more likely than ghosts

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and super soldier serum or genetic engineering.

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I don't know how his genetic engineering to be a super soldier would cause mysterious

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bruises.

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It was an experimental program.

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He's sparring.

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No, no.

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He's sparring when he's five.

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No, like his body is rebuilding itself around these genetic alterations and sometimes the

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veins and the arteries will pop or burst as he's growing.

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And so that's where a bruise would come from.

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That's an interesting theory.

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A subdermal hematoma, my friend.

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That's an interesting theory and I'll allow it.

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Because why the fuck not?

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Because we got...

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We're in uncharted territory, my friend.

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We have a ton to get through, a ton of crazy that is going to blow your mind.

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So this is not where I'm going to plant my flag.

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So the issue was before they had this MK Ultra and this abuse-based way of making super soldiers.

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But the problem that you would come to is that these super soldiers you'd create had

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no morality.

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And they'd burn out.

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Right.

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They'd die real young and they were sort of robots.

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They weren't a robust super soldier that you would need.

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And so in this next clip, Randy goes on to explain how he is a version of a more moral

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super soldier.

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Oh, good.

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I'm happy for that.

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Basically, I was trained from my adolescence up to my teenage years, the age of 17, as

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a super soldier in Project Moon Shadow, which again, was a different kind of program.

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The goal was not to just be this hard and make us become murder machines, but to try

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and train us to be actual thinking, feeling, moral super soldiers that would make moral

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and ethical decisions that would be for the good of the people and for the good of the

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planet around them, which our command kind of based on this historical notion.

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They really took the classic Greco-Roman heroic model and said, look, if we really want to

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create people like this, if we want to make an Achilles, if we want to make a Hercules,

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if we want to make an Atlas or an Ajax, they're not just murder machines.

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These are moral, ethical heroes who did what they did because they believed in a better

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purpose.

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They believed in a better thing.

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They did not be just bigger, stronger, faster, smarter monsters.

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They were bigger, stronger, faster, smarter, stronger, better heroes, because they believed

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in self-sacrifice.

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They believed in not just kicking back and being fat with a bunch of cows and a bunch

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of wives, but they were out fighting the dragons and the monsters of the world to protect people.

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No real dragons, but - Heard enough, Dan!

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President this man!

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Uh, no, that's Andrew Basiago.

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Oh, fine.

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No, no, no, no.

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I don't care now.

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Now I'm on this dude's tip.

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We need a ticket of the two of them.

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I want this dude - how much better a president would this dude be?

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Probably better than Trump.

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It'd be insanely better!

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So the other thing, though, too, you're right, he needs to reexamine his Greek history.

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Yeah, he does not know what - Because Atlas, first of all, was a titan.

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He wasn't a human.

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No, and he definitely wasn't a hero.

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No, he's holding the world on his shoulders.

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That's who Atlas is.

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As a punishment.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Because he was bad.

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Yeah.

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Or at the very least - well, I mean, he wasn't really morally bad.

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He was just - he just got his ass kicked by Zeus.

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It's hard for us to really grapple with the morality of gods.

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But be that as it may, Ajax, sure, he was a warrior.

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If you want to talk about Achilles, he is wrathful.

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That's his primary characterization.

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And the only reason that there's a story in the Iliad is because Achilles gets pissed

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off that his general comes over and is like, hey, I'm going to take your war bounty, which

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was women.

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Yeah.

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His woman got stolen.

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His plunder got stolen.

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He's like, fuck it, I'm not fighting then.

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That's the whole beginning tension of the Iliad.

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Yeah.

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Hero.

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Yeah.

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It's not like he was fighting for some noble purpose.

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It was because he believed in stuff.

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In the Trojan War, he wasn't fighting for a noble purpose.

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He believed in personal property.

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Sure.

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He believed in the Second Amendment.

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He believed in personal property in the sense that a person was his property.

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Yes, absolutely.

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So yeah, his examples there are pretty flawed in terms of what a moral super soldier would

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be.

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He wasn't so much a hero as a unwitting toy plaything of the gods.

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But he was also a demi-god.

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Yeah.

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He was also a half-god.

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Right.

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But he had to murder his wife and he had to do this whole thing.

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He had to fight the Gorgon.

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Yeah.

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He had to do the 12 tasks.

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Had to clean up a shed.

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It was a big shed, too.

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Now that is a moral superhero, I will admit.

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If you can clean up that shed, you're good.

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So I think we've pretty well established what makes him a super soldier at this point.

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Imagination.

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Yeah.

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So he doesn't really get too much deeper into the essence of the program that made him a

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super soldier other than to say in that last clip, he was training, which I mean, when

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I was...

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Adolescence and on.

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When I was a fucking kid, I was training, too.

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I was sparring with trees.

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I was doing some imaginary training, too.

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Excellent.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Maybe I'm a super soldier, too, and I just don't know it.

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Entirely possible.

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Yeah.

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So in this next clip...

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Where do you think you got that thing on your face, huh?

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What, the cross eye?

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No, the surgery you need.

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Oh, yeah.

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That's a side effect from your super soldier.

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Maybe it's a homing beacon that I'm going to be cutting out of myself.

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Now the super secret soldier program won't be able to find me anymore.

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Yeah.

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Did your doctor suddenly and mysteriously change?

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Did they refer you out after the initial diagnosis?

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He did.

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Oh, no.

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Secret government.

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So, since this is going to happen to me in the near future, I'm glad that we have Randy

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Kramer here to explain what happened when he entered the program.

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Gotcha.

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So they took 300 of us and ran us through the program, and then when I guess we sort

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of graduated at about age 17, and then we're in Project Moonshadow, essentially, as only

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one of many super soldier programs, not just in America, but around the world, that contribute

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to the larger program, then parcel soldiers out of those programs to something called

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Project Mannequin.

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Project Mannequin is a larger global program, which takes all these super soldier programs

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from everybody else, and then assigns them either back to military programs on the ground,

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where super soldiers are either trained or used, or then onward to the outer programs

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to the EDF, which anything that is off world, out of the off planet, is definitely EDF territory.

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So you either kind of get parceled back into a terrestrial unit, or you get sent off world.

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And then once you get sent parcel to the EDF block, the EDF then parcels out its soldiers

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to Radiant Guardian, and to the other solar stations, and any of the other planetary bases

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that they have.

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Dude, get a writing staff!

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Radiant Guardian?

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Come on!

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That's terrible.

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That's one of the names of the programs.

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But also EDF, he keeps saying, is the Earth Defense Fund, or whatever, foundation force.

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Earth Defense Force.

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Yeah.

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Earth Defense Force.

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So hold on.

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Here we go.

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Let's finish this clip.

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I'm not privy to every planetary moon base that they have, but they parceled with them

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to all of those, and some to Mars.

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And like Mars, the Mars Colony Corporation is what runs the Mars Colony, and they contract

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the MDF, which is its own private military contracting agency.

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It's like Blackwater.

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Yeah.

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So nobody in the MDF is not from the EDF, but again, like I said, the EDF, because of

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this whole paperwork thing, is no longer, you know, in charge of everybody at the MCC

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or the MDF.

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Because of paperwork!

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I love that bureaucracy is a huge issue here.

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Like, hey, we live in this magical world where you can go to, but that, that makes me buy

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it far more.

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Like the fact that he's gone that deep into the bureaucracy of it is like, oh man, they're

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on my ass to fill out this paperwork all the time, so I don't get to go to Mars.

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I'll say that it doesn't help convince me.

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It makes me think that maybe he's had a shitty job in his life.

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That makes me think that maybe he's had to fill out paperwork before.

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But I like that all the people in the Moon Defense Force are from the Earth Defense Force.

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But not all members of the Earth Defense Force are members of the Moon Defense Force.

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This is just normal.

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This is behavior.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So you might be asking yourself, you know, he comes in at 17.

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What happened?

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Like, what was the actual moment like?

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Yeah, I know.

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We graduated with a class of 300 after defeating the Persians, of course.

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Yes.

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And then what goes down?

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Here's what happened at 17.

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Okay, but you shipped out from Earth at the age of 17, is that right?

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Correct.

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That is correct.

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So on November the 17th, 1987, or actually in the morning of, so it would have been November

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the 18th, 1987 at 2.30 a.m. as pretty par for the course for an evening of training.

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A localized wormhole appears.

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Two guys come out and they're like, okay, it's time to go and I'm okay, let's go.

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But we didn't just go do a training session.

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It was off to an underground base to a hanger with an Aurora TRB-3, big black triangular

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vehicle.

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I think they're actually manufactured by Boeing and that they're sold out to the Air Force

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and whoever else uses them.

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And they're still kind of a standard terrestrial shuttle vehicle, but not the most advanced

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thing at all.

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But they do the job and you don't necessarily want to give way more advanced technology

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to people if they catch one or get one or take one apart or something.

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Totally.

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No, I'm good with that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That's actually pretty good strategic thinking right there.

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Absolutely.

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So I want to take this moment to say that his story has changed substantially over interviews

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that he's done in the past.

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What?

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A lot of this stuff did not appear in early interviews that he did about his experience.

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Well yeah, he's refining.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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He's remembering more and more.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's all coming back to him.

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Yeah, he does sessions where he recovers blocks of his memory and stuff like that.

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And so that explains why a lot of the story shifts and changes.

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Of course.

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But it also explains why he has gotten to this point where a lot of this is blase.

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A lot of this is like, you know, oh, you know, the earth defense force, there's a lot of

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paperwork.

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All this stuff.

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He does sound very over it.

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Well, yeah, he's like, all right, you know, hey, after a night of training, localized

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wormhole opened up as, as you know, it happens.

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Yeah.

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So were you given warning or was it just like a hole in space just opened up and two dudes

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walked out and were like, hey, come on, get in here.

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And then I'm like, all right, get in the, get in here.

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So he goes through this wormhole.

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Localized wormhole is also what they called the bus.

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And my butt.

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Yeah.

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So they, uh, they come through this wormhole, they grab them up, they put them in a spaceship

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and then

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Why would you put them in a spaceship?

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You've got a fucking wormhole.

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Localized wormhole.

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But fucking, that means there are other kinds of wormholes.

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Absolutely.

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But you don't want to be fucking opening up these crazy long wormhole tunnels.

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Anyway.

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That's again, airtight, airtight logic.

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You're right.

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You're, you're right there.

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They could be unstable.

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I mean, when you're going off planet, you want to go with the safest route and you've

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already got these, uh, inner, these Boeing ships from 1987.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So, uh, you might ask what happens after that?

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I mean, is there anything boring about your experience?

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Maybe

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Uh, where we then went through a processing process and sat down in front of a junior

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officer and EDF officer and explain, here's this big contract.

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You're going away for a 20 year tour.

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You don't know where you're going to go yet.

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I can't tell you that.

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We don't know.

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They made you sign a contract?

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But you got an initial here, an initial here, sign here, this is what's going to happen.

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Then we'll bring you back and we'll, you know, erase your memories for security reasons.

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But you don't remember all that crazy stuff anyway.

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And then we'll send you back and you'll have a really cool job.

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And not to lie, but you know, they give you this kind of song and dances like recruiters

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do.

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And then after your initial initial initial sign, there's, you know, another medical exam

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I think.

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And then there's a waiting period.

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I love that.

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There's another another medical exam.

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I think.

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Yeah.

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There's another medical exam.

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But see, this is airtight logic.

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He goes in, he signs this 20 year contract and part of the contract is at the end of

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it, we're going to wipe your memory.

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You don't want to remember that stuff anyway.

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Which they waved off so bad, eh, you're not going to want to remember that.

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We got it.

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We'll get you a good job.

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They're lying to you, you know.

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Fucking secret government always lying about you.

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Why would they make you sign a contract?

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Like you, like they would even acknowledge your existence anyways.

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You were genetically engineered in a lab to become a super soldier.

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It's not like you're going to sue.

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You need that paperwork on file.

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Also, if you're going to be a super soldier on Mars and like you haven't signed a contract

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and you want out, how?

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How are you going to get out?

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You can't just.

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Well, I assume they've trained you on localized wormholes at that point, right?

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Localized.

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You can go to another part of Mars.

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Look, if you're talking about a wormhole, everything is localized.

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That's the whole idea behind wormholes is that space and time are one point and that

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you can combine them across the universe at any point in time.

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Very silly words coming out of your mouth right now.

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You have no idea how stupid you sound.

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I'm just saying that our listeners are like, wow, I thought I respected Jordan.

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That was dumb.

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It's a fold space.

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That's what you're doing with a wormhole.

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You're taking one part and you're just folding space and time together because there's no

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real distance between the two of them since they're the same thing.

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So how do you even think a localized wormhole is any different from an interstellar wormhole?

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And that's the magic of like wormholes is, you know, it allows immediate travel to places

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theoretically.

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Now you might be surprised to learn that wormholes are in play, but at the same time, Randy tells

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us in this next clip that it takes 15 minutes to get from the moon to Mars.

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Fuck!

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Now I don't even want to be a part of this shit.

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It takes 15 minutes.

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What is there?

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Traffic?

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Yeah, I guess so.

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So I think I cut out the part where he talks about this, but they go to...

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If we're talking about an Einstein-Rosenbridge.

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Sure.

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All right.

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There is zero time, and also you would be spaghettified along the way.

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So he goes to a moon base, and I'm guessing that's where they did this processing.

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And then from there, they enter an eight-story-tall spaceship that has wings, but he doesn't know

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why there are wings.

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There are wings!

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It's just like they evolved, like they're fucking residual wings.

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Also eight stories tall is a massive...

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It's a very big one.

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Yeah.

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Aerodynamically, that would be difficult to get off the ground.

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But he gets on this ship, and they go...

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Not in space.

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In space, it's easy to get off the ground.

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Even from the moon, that would be difficult.

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Nah, that'd be fine.

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Who cares?

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Anyway...

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I do.

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I do more than I've ever cared about anything else in my life.

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If we need to nitpick, save your energy.

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So they go in this eight-story-tall ship from the moon, and they go past...

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They do a buzz-fly-by of Earth, and from the ceiling, you can see the Earth, and you can

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see electrical storms, and Randy is filled with this sense that the Earth is alive.

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It's this nice last view of Earth before they shoot off from Mars.

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And here is him talking about the beginning of his service and the trip to Mars.

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I'm assuming that eventually we'll get into why he still has his memory, right?

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Maybe.

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Maybe?

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Maybe.

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Really, maybe.

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Because his memory should have been erased if we're going by this 20-year contract.

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I've listened to all of this.

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Was there a technicality or something?

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Because paperwork is so important, did somebody forget to check the memory erase box?

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There's a clause in his contract.

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The secret government was in breach of contract, so they had to let him go.

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I can answer that question, but I have to do it later.

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Okay.

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I'm just...

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No, I'm assuming you're not going to answer it now.

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I just want to know if there's any possible answer in the future.

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I mean, look, there's ostensibly an answer.

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I can't tell you that there's an answer that's good.

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Look, we're an Alex Jones-based podcast.

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We're engaging on their level, not on ours.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So don't say ostensibly once in this entire podcast.

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Fair enough.

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Also, I like them way more than I like Alex.

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Oh my god, I'm so happy with this.

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So here we go.

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We talked about the trip to Mars and the beginning of his time there.

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Also dovetails nicely into some theories about time travel.

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And you traveled this and how much time was passing during this time?

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I mean, it was a matter of minutes, it seemed like.

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I mean, maybe it was a 15, 20 minute ride from the moon to the back to the sort of looking

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at Earth.

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And then once we left Earth, it was maybe a 15, 20 minute ride to Mars because then

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we went via wormhole.

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So then the vehicle, however the wormhole manifested, went through one and then we came

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out at Mars.

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And then he says, oh, welcome to Mars, we've arrived at our location, then brought us down

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to the ground and landed at Aries Primus.

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Okay, okay.

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And then this was your base for, if I recall, is that 17 years or is that, because I know

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you had three years, what appeared to be some kind of, I think it might have been Solar

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Warden, correct me if I'm wrong, we call it Solar Warden.

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Not sure what you call it.

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It was Radiant Guardian when I was a part of that program, but it's changed a number

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of times and it's been that something similar to that.

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In essence, became a pilot though for three years, right?

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About whatever was the remainder of my 20 year tour, however that works out exactly.

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It was 17 years, three months, 14 days-ish, 14, 15 days depending on how you want to count,

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I guess.

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And then the pilot training school, interestingly enough, that was another quantum dilation.

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In order to get more time out of us, they were like, we're not going to waste time

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on your tour with your pilot training, so we're going to take you to this lunar base

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to do your pilot training and then we're going to bring you back 15 minutes after you

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leave so you don't lose any actual service time.

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I was like, okay, great, that's fine.

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Okay, so there's time travel, in essence, involved when you move from one place to another,

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right?

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If they want there to be, yeah, I mean, if they want to save time, you know, they can

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do something out of time so that instead of it taking days, weeks, or months, it takes,

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you know, five minutes or 15 minutes.

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There are some interesting ways to play with time like that.

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I'm not really good at temporal mechanics, I don't think I'm good at explaining it,

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but the time guys really understand their business and certainly know how to move things

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around without crashing the whole matrix of the universe.

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So you understand what he's saying there, basically is that there's time travel involved

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so they can screw you out of the time that you've been, yeah, you signed up for 20 years,

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so maybe you do something that takes like three months and then they time travel you

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back.

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Yeah, well, they don't want to screw you out of your time.

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It's a living.

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It's a F. Curses.

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Just the, well, if they want there to be, what, why wouldn't they, like, are they joy-riding?

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Are they fucking with you?

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What's happening here?

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I don't know.

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If they want there to be time travel.

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Who doesn't want there to be?

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Well, I mean, it's the idea of like stop-lossing.

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If they want to stop-loss you, they can just time travel you back and then you're fucked.

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Right, that's true.

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It's a very bizarre understanding of time and I don't...

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Which means it's the correct understanding.

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Absolutely.

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It seems to be hung up on 15 minutes as a demarcation of time.

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Like if you want to time travel, they can just go back to the exact time.

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It doesn't take 15 minutes to time travel.

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Here's my second theory.

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Here's my theory on that, all right?

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Because of all the time travel that he's done, the only real amount of time that he can measure

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in his brain is 15 or 20 minutes.

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Like that's all he's got.

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It's possible.

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You're talking to him and you're like, hey, it's 11 o'clock now and do you want to watch

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the Cubs game?

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That's at six o'clock.

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How long do you think it's going to be?

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We got 15 minutes.

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We got 15 or 20 minutes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Maybe.

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He's got brain damage.

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That's as reasonable as any other theory.

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There are side effects to time travel, Dan.

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That's true.

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Everybody knows this.

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Absolutely.

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I've seen Lost.

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It's not really time travel, I guess.

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Desmond's mind just is displaced.

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Eh, they're all dead.

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No.

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You're wrong.

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I mean, at the end, they are all dead, yes, but fuck you.

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This next clip, we've already established that Randy ends up on Mars and this next clip,

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we get a little bit of talk about what Mars is like when he shows up.

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But in essence, you were based then on Mars and you were there.

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Explain to people that are going to be relatively new to the subject what your job was on Mars.

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Right.

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Essentially, I was assigned to the Mars Defense Force, like I said, at that point, from the

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Earth Defense Force, which was a private military company that has contracted to the Mars Colony

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Corporation or the MCC to defend the Mars Colony.

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What about the Moon Defense?

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We essentially were one of many stations who create a buffer zone around the territory

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where the colonies are located, so as to find any of the local, both hostile animal life

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and possibly hostile sentient life out of that territory.

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I can only sort of answer for what was taking place in our area, which for some time I sort

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of presumed was the whole thing happening all over, but the more information I get from

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other people, the more I realize, oh, no, I was just at sort of the northern Arctic

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front.

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It's sort of this very specific area with some very specific things that were going

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on there that were not necessarily what were happening everywhere else, but they're certainly

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still interesting crossovers and validations and talking to other people, and eventually

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there will be a lot more people talking about this.

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I know a bunch of them, and they're not ready to come forward right now, but I'm talking

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to these people on a regular basis, and I know people who are talking to people on a

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regular basis who are all talking about their Mars experiences and their Mars service, and

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we're all collecting data on that and correlating the data.

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The good news is Randy has met some other crazy people.

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I want to go to their meetings, I want to be on their group texts, I want to know everything

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about these people.

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You know how accidentally some people end up in a work group text sort of thing and

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they just have to watch the planning for a lunch happen?

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Why can't we accidentally get lumped in with this?

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Yeah, I want a wrong number group text to be like, hey, what was your experience like

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on Mars?

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And I'd be like, I'm fucking way in.

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Randy, you were way up north, right?

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Yeah, I was in the Arctic.

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The local, hostile life, and possibly sentient life.

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Oh no no, there is no possible about it.

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There was.

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There were aliens.

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Oh yeah.

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Well, indiginous Martians, as I believe they prefer to be called.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Okay.

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That's the correct PC terminology.

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Yeah, so he was there, he was on Mars, and he had to protect the colonies, which is where

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we find some overlap with Robert David Steele from the Alex Jones show, talking about there

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being bases and colonies on Mars.

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He was there as a super soldier, Randy was, and he had to fight off dogs.

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Something like that.

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Yeah.

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Local wildlife.

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Right.

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So now this introduces a really interesting problem.

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Don't look at me like that.

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No, again, we're engaging on their world, not ours.

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What is the one problem that this creates?

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He goes on to say that their bases were like underground, and within a mountain, because

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of course they were.

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I mean, they would have to be.

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Yeah, because otherwise we would see them.

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Well, there are many reasons why they would need to be underground.

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There are a lot of people with a lot of telescopes, we have a rover on Mars now, this would not

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be something that we couldn't figure out.

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Right, but if we've already got bases there, then we can definitely send a rover to the

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spot where we don't have bases.

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Yeah, that's true.

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So, I mean, it's not like the rover can see the entire planet.

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Right, but then, the issue that I have is, if you have underground bases, where are things

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coming at you from?

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How are you having a war in underground bases?

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Well, that's the thing that they discovered, right?

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So they go there to set up the colony.

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They start digging underground because they know that people are going to see them if

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they don't.

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Right.

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Alrighty.

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And they better do it quick, otherwise people are going to see them digging.

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So fast.

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So fast.

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Well, it was the 80s.

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Everybody was too busy doing coke.

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It was pretty well established that this started before the 80s.

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Okay, fine.

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This was Eisenhower shit.

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Okay, this is Eisenhower.

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We got the nuclear bomb and then immediately went to Mars colonies.

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Right.

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Gotcha.

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The nuclear bomb was a distraction.

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Yeah.

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That's when they did it.

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It was the fallout of Nagasaki.

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We only really needed to drop one.

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But Hiroshima, that was the decoy to get us building these Mars colonies.

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Everybody's too busy with the tragedies.

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Bingo.

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There we go.

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Digging underground to develop our Martian colonies, but to their surprise, they're shit

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living underground.

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Right.

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So they are fighting inch by inch against, I'm going to go with Orson Scott card style

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formics.

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Are you talking about Morlocks down there?

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Yeah, something along those lines.

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But if that's the case, then they already have bases down there and you're just occupying

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Morlock bases or whatever.

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Is that the case?

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That's what they're doing.

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Why do you think they need super soldiers?

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If there was nothing going on on Mars, you'd just have a bunch of people there.

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No, because you-

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He's drinking the marrow of children.

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And adrenochrome blood.

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Yeah, sure.

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And you'd still need super soldiers even if there weren't weird underground battles going

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on because you'd need people who were able to withstand these wormhole jumps and stuff

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like that.

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That's true.

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Spaghetti-ized.

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Spaghetti-fied.

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Spaghetti-fied.

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Which is a true scientific term that I learned.

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So you might be thinking too at this point that this is a little silly.

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We know that Mars is inhabitable.

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There's no oxygen there.

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Human life could not really exist there.

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Randy wants you to know that you're a dumb-dumb.

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I agree.

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He wants to tell you the truth about Mars' climate.

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Okay.

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You're talking about being on the surface of Mars.

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Are you talking about the Mars that we see and we think we know?

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In this dimension, are you talking about a fourth-dimensional Mars?

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Oh, no.

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I'm actually talking about the physical planet of Mars that we know and understand to be

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right now in which our rover and probe is on right now.

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Now, we're absolutely talking about the same place.

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So some important things to note about it.

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It's not exactly the way NASA tells us.

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NASA tells us that it doesn't have a breathable oxygen atmosphere.

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That's not true.

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It does.

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That's how sarcastic he is right there.

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It's not exactly as NASA tells us.

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So dismissive.

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That's not sarcasm.

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That's condescension.

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Yeah.

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That's just like, you guys are dumb.

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Yeah.

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Now, you believe NASA.

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They tell you this.

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It's not quite like that, but you're close.

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Right.

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Right.

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Oh, so good.

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It's a real turn on.

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So good.

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Super breathable in the sense that this is more like thin mountain air for us.

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So it's really not recommended outside the equatorial regions to try and survive without

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an environment suit.

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The equatorial regions can be a bit warmer and a bit more mild and temperate.

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So it's not the worst thing in the world, apparently, to just be sort of exposed in

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street clothing, so to speak.

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But you get any of the directions further north or south and you're going to get way

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more extreme temperatures and winds and so forth and you're going to need some protection.

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But again, you're going to need some oxygen assistance and some breathing assistance if

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you're going to do any physical moving or fighting, that's for sure.

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So we never went outside without an environment suit, without a powered environment suit with

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body armor and everything else that we needed all in one package.

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Okay.

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But did you have structures that you occupied on the surface or was it all underground?

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We were inside of a mountain and pretty much everything, as I understand, is underground.

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I mean, there may be some facilities which operate on the surface or do things on the

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surface, but really 99% of everything that you want to stay functioning has got to be

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underground.

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It is still susceptible to some pretty intense wind storms.

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Yeah, that's fair.

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That is fair.

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I just looked it up.

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It has to be underground, and I'll tell you why.

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Near the poles, temperatures can get down all the way to minus 195 degrees.

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That's pretty cold.

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Even on the equator during a summer day, which I don't remember the length of Mars' orbit

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around Earth.

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Who cares?

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But summer's a while.

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Yeah.

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It can get all the way up to 70 degrees Fahrenheit.

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Yeah, you can wear street clothes.

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Which means, yeah, you could be out there.

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It's a bit mountain air, so you can still breathe it, but you're going to have to...

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Don't run.

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Don't go too far.

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Yeah, be careful if you're hiking on the equator of Mars.

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That said, at night, even on the equator, it can get down to minus 73 degrees.

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Minus 100.

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Or minus 100 Fahrenheit.

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Wild fluctuations in terms of temperature.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So you've got to build it underground.

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That checks out.

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I'm on his side now.

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Now let's be clear.

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Things are colder underground.

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You can control the environment a little bit better and put in heaters and stuff like that,

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but if it's negative 195 degrees, because he said he's in the north, he's at the northmost

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point of their operation.

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He's on the polar northern front.

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Right, so that would be where, in the winter, it's negative 195 degrees.

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If you go underground, that's going to be way colder.

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Closer to Mars' core, Dan.

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The 30 feet underground you are is not going to make a difference.

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No, they break close to the slate.

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He said he's in a mountain.

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He might not even be underground.

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A mountain could be above ground.

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If you're inside a mountain, you're still underground.

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I consider mountains ground.

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What if it's a volcano?

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That's a good question.

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See, now you don't even have to worry about heat.

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You use the thermal heat from the volcano.

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All volcanoes are mountains.

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Not all mountains are volcanoes.

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Thank you.

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You stare at me and I end things with a thank you.

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Just like in the, all Mars defense people are Earth defense people, but not all Earth

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defense people are all Mars defense people.

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All gentlemen are men, but not all men are gentlemen.

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Dicks, dicks, dicks.

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Amen.

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So you might be asking yourself, which is something I keep finding myself saying, at

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this point you might be quizzically thinking, uh, hey, uh, if all this stuff is going on

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and there are all these space bases on the, on the moon, on the moon, Mars, theoretically

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everywhere.

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He's, he's speculated.

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It's probably going on.

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I mean, if you've got wormholes, fuck it.

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You can get anywhere around the world.

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Why not?

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So why, why aren't we getting any indication of like radio signals from, from all these?

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Because communication must be going on between them.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He's got that covered.

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Unless they're doing everything face to face.

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No, he's got it covered.

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Okay.

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Oh, guess surprise.

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What?

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Why?

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When we're listening for radio signals, why we don't hear them from everybody is because

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you know, everybody else who's smart is also muffling their signals so that they're not

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on the map to everybody.

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That just turns out to be a technology like be quiet.

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And so we got there listening, thinking that everyone's being loud and noisy when everyone's

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being stealthy and quiet because what they do is whisper stations and knowing what they're

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doing and where they are.

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Which is kind of more standard practice than it turns out to be now.

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Yeah.

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No, that makes sense.

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Sure.

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I'll give it to him.

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Be quiet.

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Yeah.

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You have sound mufflers, radio signal mufflers.

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Yeah, talk soft.

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Great.

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How does that, how would a, how would a radio signal, signal muffler work?

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I don't know.

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It's one that would have to be strong enough to reach earth from Mars.

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And it would have to be selective enough that you could have the signals you do want coming

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in, coming in.

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Exactly.

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Otherwise it would make communication between the bases impossible.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I don't know.

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Furthermore.

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But it's a technology that smart people use.

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Sorry.

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Go ahead.

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No, that's a good point.

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Yeah.

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Smarter people than I.

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Yeah, sure.

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I can't, I can't argue that.

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I don't know enough about radio waves to know whether or not you could hide one successfully

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from Mars.

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We weren't specially created in test tubes and implanted into our parents.

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That's true.

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So we don't know all these.

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Well, I mean, if you're figuring they've got super soldiers, right?

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That means they also must have created a super scientist as well.

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Of course.

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Like that would have, you would have to do that.

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Why would you only create super soldiers?

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And they're the ones who are lying to us about climate change.

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Of course.

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You know what?

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They're too smart.

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You know what's fucked up?

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Uh, this is a three hour interview that he did and I don't have all that much.

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I kept it mostly to the Mars stuff.

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Yeah.

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He believes in climate change.

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So well, but that makes perfect sense.

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If we're getting, if we're getting off planet, that means we've seen climate change coming

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since the Eisenhower years, but that got to get out of there.

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It's never totally clear.

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Like he doesn't really give, uh, any real reason that any of this stuff exists though.

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Like the idea that it is a potential colony to move to or anything like that.

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Dan, he doesn't really speculate why this stuff exists.

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Why?

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Cause why not?

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Sure.

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Cause it's there.

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Why do you explore the world, Dan?

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Because it's there.

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Right.

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Why do you build super soldiers to go to Mars and defend it against perhaps indigenous life?

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Cause you gotta.

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I think the more likely thing is this guy had a little bit of a psychotic psychotic

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break and uh, but he's still super functional.

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It could just be that he's super creative.

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Having a lot of fun.

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It could be.

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I mean, why would, look, if I could sustain a three hour interview of made up bullshit

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with the most credulous woman in the world, you could.

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She is, I, I listening to her ask these questions, I was just like a complete like, Oh yeah,

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we called it the, this radiant guardian.

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Is that what you're saying?

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We called it.

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This is a solar warden.

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Yeah.

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And you're like, well, if she believes it, it goes by a ton of different names.

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I guess.

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I guess that means we're, I guess that means she's in, she's all in big time.

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I love it.

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Big time.

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I love her.

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The other question I have here discusses why you'd need super soldiers to go up there.

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We've speculated a little bit.

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That is a good question.

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I do want to get to the bottom of that.

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All right, here we go.

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Right.

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Okay.

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So when you were deployed on, on Mars, you were in essence, uh, based on your story,

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which I've listened extensively to, uh, basically encountering from what I understand, um, reptilian

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species and, and, and basically what, what sound like what Mark Richards, uh, captain

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Mark Richards of the secret space program, who I've interviewed would say are called

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troggs.

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Uh, that's what his, his experiences with them.

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You called them, I think, insectis toys or there was certainly an engineer, you know,

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other hive insects, you know, sort of to do their, their basic mission, their way of building

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machines is genetically engineering another bug or another, you know, insect that will

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do that job.

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And so they have this very organic, uh, way of doing this very incredibly advanced organic

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science.

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It's really, really advanced organic science.

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I'll just call it that.

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So your, your battle though, was to, in a sense, there seemed like there was a small

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battles skirmishes that you were defending the base that we have, just like here in,

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you know, if United States and Russia get into an issue, maybe over in Afghanistan,

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they're having a skirmish there.

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So you were, you're a fighting over territory.

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Is that correct?

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Constantly.

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Uh, and I, it's, I think it's important to, to note and point out because I, I keep hearing

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people presume what that conflict was about or what we were fighting over.

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And so I'm, I'm feeling more and more that I need to be really clear about why we were

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fighting and what we were fighting for.

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Um, it was not for a supremacy of the planet.

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It was not for a total global war of the planet until the Draconians attacked and gotten involved,

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which I haven't gotten interested in, talked tons about like the lengthy war and what the

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stages were.

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But you know, we were having what I would call polite, civilized conflict really with

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the native reptoids and the native insectoids and that's really, I mean, a hard thing to

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say when you're still like, ah, you know, killing and stabbing and blowing each other

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up.

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But it was way more polite and civilized until the Draconians came along and really kind

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of messed up what was a, an organic system of territorial, uh, boundary keeping that

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was not meant to overrun somebody else's hive or territory, but maintained that everyone

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had a certain weakness, uh, to them and no one could grow over strong so that everyone

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could maintain a peaceable territory without anyone actually trying to become, the whole

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point of having conflict for these folks was to engage in a way in which kept any one person

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from becoming too powerful and then overwhelming the other.

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So it was a constant back and forth that was meant to maintain and stabilize the territory

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and the peace arrangement.

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Believe it or not, I know this may sound very strange to some people as a way of doing things,

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but it might.

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Oh, oh, is that the thing that sounds strange?

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It might sound strange.

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Look, we were fighting not for supremacy until those fucking reptoids got involved.

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The Draconians.

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The Draconians.

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I'm sorry.

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The reptoids are ostensibly another, uh, local population that they're having skirmishes

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with.

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Now I'm a big fan of the insectoids on this one.

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I want them, I want them winning because if they need a job done, they just genetically

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engineer another insectoid, a machine, to do that.

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Yeah.

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And it's an organic machine.

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Sure.

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Brilliant.

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Great.

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Brilliant insectoids in this one.

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Thrilled for the insectoids.

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I think they're doing a great job.

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I don't understand why we can't have an alliance with the insectoids.

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Exactly.

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We need to learn some of that technology.

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They seem to be the ones that we should join up with to defeat the Draconians.

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Bring an insectoid back here, create all kinds of technology, solve a lot of our problems.

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Pollution could be taken care of.

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Right.

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All sorts of shit.

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If only the insectoids.

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Engineer a bug to fix pollution.

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So the Draconians come in and they fuck, they're shit kickers.

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They just want to fuck everything up.

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That's so Draconian of them.

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Very much so.

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This is very included in the entire mythology of the lizard people.

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That sort of stuff they're often referred to as Draconians.

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Right.

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They're from Draco.

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Dick Cheney.

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Right.

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So this dovetails into David Icke a little bit here with the lizard folk.

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And you'll be thrilled to know that there was a massive war with the Draconians.

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But there was...

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Is it still going?

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It's not.

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There was peace reached.

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Oh good.

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They found detente.

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Good.

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How did they do that?

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I don't know.

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He didn't...

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He just said they found peace?

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Yeah.

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Well I mean you can't fight forever.

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No.

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Not even on Mars.

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No.

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It's a lot like a turf war in Afghanistan between Russia and the United States.

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Sooner or later you're going to get peace.

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But I'm telling you this, Dan.

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Just like that.

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Just like that.

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Conflict is right around the corner.

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I think also...

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They're going to be fighting again.

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I think what he's sort of expressing is a little bit of an idea and maybe a fanciful

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idea about like wars between Native American tribes before the white man came.

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Okay.

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You know, like there is a little bit of that to what he's saying.

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Okay.

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Because I don't know...

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No, no, no.

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Now I see where you're going.

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It's not for dominance.

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It's for, you know...

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I don't know enough...

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To protect yours.

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I don't know enough about ancient Native American history, but I do think that if you also don't

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know a lot, you might speculate that that was how Native warfare went back before.

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Yeah, it wasn't.

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And then the Draconians would be the Europeans coming over and going for supremacy.

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So maybe this is all an allegory.

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Maybe he's trying to teach us about ourselves.

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If that's the case, huzzah.

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But also, I don't know...

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We salute you.

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I don't know if that's accurate.

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No, it's not.

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No, but I mean even the lesson.

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I'm not sure if that's accurate.

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Again, I don't know enough about old time Native American history.

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You know, they were people.

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It feels right to me, that lesson, but I don't know it to be true.

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That's because of all of the stuff that we kind of idolize about the Native American

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tribes.

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Yeah, certainly.

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That, you know, like we're living as one with the nature and all that stuff.

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Use all the buffalo.

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Yeah, it's...

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No, they were people.

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They still fucking murdered each other left and right.

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There are tribes that were driven extinct by other tribes and assimilated.

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There was slavery.

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There was all that other stuff.

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There's a lot of people who are against fiat currency and what have you who also make the

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argument that like, yeah, the Native Americans just used barter and had an economy.

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Really if you look at it, that's not an economy.

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No, no, no.

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They had an economy.

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They were sophisticated people.

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Yeah.

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It's a little reductive.

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Again, the only reason that we won is not because we were so technologically superior.

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It's because...

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Because we were evil.

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Well, there's that.

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But also because most Native American tribes were absolutely decimated by disease before

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we ever even got here.

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Right.

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And they also were not helped by diseases that we brought.

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Right.

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No.

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Yeah, no.

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We fucked them up.

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We fucked them up.

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But yeah, no, they had one of the...

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Like archaeologists have found that they've had one of the largest cities in the world

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at the time.

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And the Cahokia Mound?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, this has been fun, but let's get back to crazy.

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All right.

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So you have been giggling and laughing.

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This has been a fucking delight for me.

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We've been giggling every time he brings up the Mars Colony Corporation.

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They're fucking awesome!

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Yeah.

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It is a corporation.

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Well, I mean, come on.

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There's a lot of paperwork involved.

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It's for profit.

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That's right.

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I forgot.

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They have to be selling something.

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Yeah, they're selling condos on Mars.

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So it is...

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It's a business endeavor that is being protected by a Blackwater-esque group of super soldiers

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on Mars.

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So if you want to really look at the long view, that's what's going on.

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So in this next clip, Randy talks a little bit about the actual colonies themselves.

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And we were not really allowed to visit the colonies.

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I've never been to them.

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I've never seen them.

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I don't even know what they exactly look like.

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When you say the colonies, what colonies of who?

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The Mars Colony Corporation colonies, which apparently they have five colonies.

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The Mars Colony Corporation is a consortium of earth-based banking, money people, technological

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corporations, states, governments, and so forth, who are all participating in order

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to be part of the Mars Colony Corporation and to be part of the colonies and to be part

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of that genome project and the sort of future of whole civilization project that they like

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to think of themselves and call themselves in order to preserve humanity, et cetera,

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et cetera.

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Dude, you shouldn't be so cynical about the Mars Colony Corporation.

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You were not, in essence, you were guarding the colonies, but you were not based in the

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colonies?

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Correct.

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I have never seen the colonies, never even been close enough to them to tell you whether

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they're domed underground or what they look like.

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Now that's actually smart.

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You don't want your colonists being influenced by a warlike people.

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You want them to be Pollyannish.

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It's sort of like the Wall in Game of Thrones, like people who were born at the Wall and

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haven't gone down to Winterfell or anything like that.

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You don't want the people in Winterfell necessarily to know about the others who are up north

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or the White Walkers.

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And you similarly don't want the people at the Wall who maybe have no idea of other ways

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of life.

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I mean, I know a lot of people were sent there as a penal thing.

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Be that as it may, Game of Thrones is coming back soon, apparently.

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Very excited.

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Very excited.

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We were brought to you by Game of Thrones.

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Very excited.

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Still will not pick up one of those goddamn books, even if my life depended on it.

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So listen, one, three, and five are good.

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Two and four are garbage.

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Interesting trend there.

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Just takes every other book off.

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That's why I don't know why people are excited for Winds of Winter.

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I'm excited for the seventh book, but fuck Winds of Winter.

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Six is gonna be a snooze.

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It's gonna be 10,000 pages long.

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It's gonna be terrible.

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I got no time for it.

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I gotta read Philip K. Dick stuff.

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Anyway, this next part of this clip, because at the beginning of the clip, he's saying,

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I've never been to the colonies.

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I don't know what they look like.

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They might be domed.

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I have no idea.

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Carrie Callahan comes back with a real nice rebuttal.

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Oh, she's got some stuff.

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She does.

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I respect the fuck out of this answer, even though it's still crazy, but it's great.

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At all.

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I mean, is that even possible if you're fighting against, I mean, was there?

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Because my understanding, you know, and I know there was this huge battle at the end

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that actually, you know, impacted you, it appears in a very deep way.

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And then you actually got reassigned to the moon.

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But prior to that, you're saying you weren't in the colonies, you didn't go there.

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Is it possible that that's an area of your brain, you know, with all due respect, that's

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been erased?

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That memory?

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Holy shit, Carrie, memories that I haven't extracted.

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But I find that unlikely at this point, since I feel that I've done a pretty solid extraction

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of pretty much everything, like all the chunks that would be a chunk here, a chunk there,

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a chunk there.

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And so that would be a missing chunk that I'm, it's unlikely that I haven't found that.

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Rats.

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See, now that makes me believe Carrie's right all the more.

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Because if well, look, if you well, but I mean, it's a

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self-defining system.

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It's like, oh, you don't remember that?

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That's clear, because you don't have that part of your memory.

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Right, right.

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But his denial of that, like, if he was, if he was making this up, he would have been

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like, no, you're right.

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He would have, he would have, yes, and it hurt.

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He would have been like, maybe, maybe that's possible.

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That's bullshit.

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Because even in his denial, he's accepting it as a possibility.

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If he had said, absolutely not.

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I've done all the searching that's possible in my memory.

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I've been cleared.

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I know everything.

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Maybe not.

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That would be more respectable because that is an outright denial.

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This still allows him to later be like, oh shit, I do remember the colonies.

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Hey, now, however, if you're dealing with somebody who's in early stages of dementia

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or Alzheimer's, then you will see them occasionally have those moments of lucidity.

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And if you ask them questions about their memories, they will most likely be like, um,

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I mean, I don't, it could, it could be, but I don't think so.

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It's very unlikely because they feel like they're in control of their memories.

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They don't, they're not aware of their own blind spots.

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So maybe he has some sort of early onset Alzheimer's.

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Well, what else would you get after you've had your memory wiped so many different times?

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We don't actually know how many times his memory has been wiped.

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Well, but we do know that he's constantly trying to get as much of it back.

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So you got to lose some while you're trying to get it back right there.

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And you got to, like, you can't restore all of a hard drive.

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You're going to still get some artifacts if you, uh, if you got it, you know, wiped.

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You got to ask yourself too, how is he going about recovering this memory?

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Obviously it's just talking to other crazy people.

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Is that, I think, cause I feel like he's, he's like, he's given me the idea of a machine

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that he's, or like hypnosis or something like that.

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I think maybe hypnosis, maybe like regression stuff or a weird crystal therapies.

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We'll get to some of his science a little bit later.

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I mean, they would have to be moon crystals of course.

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No, Mars crystals.

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Mars crystals.

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Uh, there's, there's too much, too much sodium.

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So not enough deep earth iodine.

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Randy was a hero on Mars.

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Oh, he was.

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He served valiantly for 17 years and then was in this big war with the draconian's right.

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And ended up becoming a pilot on the moon for the last three years.

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Carrie did say that there was a big battle and he had to be reassigned.

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They don't really get into much of it.

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He had to go infiltrate like a draconian base or something like that and recover something.

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Now it's a little bit suspicious to me that these guys are always the hero.

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Of course.

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Like there's no, there's no, okay, I was on, I was on Mars for 17 years.

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I ran away from everything.

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I lied to people.

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I saw an insectoid.

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I pissed my pants.

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I changed my name four different times because four of my friends died and they were going

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to get rid of me.

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So I was like, well now I'm this dude.

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Yeah.

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I'm genetically engineered to be a super soldier.

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So who the fuck, who the fuck cares?

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I'm the greatest.

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I'm too expensive for them to get rid of.

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Yeah.

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We'll actually get into some other weird stuff about the end battle and maybe everything

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is so crazy.

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Everything is absolutely crazy.

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So this next clip is sort of about the end of his time on Mars, the end of his, his 20

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year tour of duty.

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And he very neatly ties up some loose ends.

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Actually let's get that set.

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What year did you return to earth?

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Technically I finished my tour in 2007 but then was returned 15 minutes after I left

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on November, the morning of November the 18th, 1987 at two, you know, two 45 or three o'clock

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in the morning or whatever it was.

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Okay.

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So technically you were here at least in this 3d reality in 1987.

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Oh, absolutely.

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And then like I said, no, and then did the mission for 20 years and then they told this

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to age reversing thing, which I don't think was really anything more than putting my consciousness

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into a younger clone body, which was just more efficient.

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So I wake up and think I'm still 17 with repressed memory.

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Yes.

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Oh, okay.

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So, so the body you're occupying now is a clone?

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Probably from the original one.

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Yeah.

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But the original one, I mean, it's been blown apart 20 billion times and it's been rebuilt,

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you know, a bunch of times too.

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So that there's, my original body wasn't my original for a long, long time because all

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the parts had been replaced at least one point or another.

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So he's...

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Now that's a good question.

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Okay.

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That's not really a question.

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So you've got this guy, right?

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You replace one body part, he's still the same guy.

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Right.

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But if you replace all of his body parts, is he still the same guy?

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Well, he actually does explain it.

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I don't, I didn't keep this clip in, but he explains that there's a connection in your

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brain, the electrical impulses in your brain connecting to your soul, and his...

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Oh, we're getting into souls now?

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Oh, souls are in play.

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Ah, I feel like souls shouldn't be in play in this one.

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As long as there's that connection between your brain and your soul, they can just recover

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and take your brain and put it in a clone body.

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Right.

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And everything's fine.

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But if that is severed, that connection between your brain and your soul, then...

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That's how you die for real.

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You're like a car that's totaled.

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Right.

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That is like, ah, we're gone.

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Okay.

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And so in this last battle that he's involved in, he was lucky enough to not totally die

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but a lot of people did.

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Lost a lot of good men.

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Lost a lot of good...

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A lot of good super soldiers.

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Now, see, this is bad writing.

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Ha!

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Yes.

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I agree.

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No, no.

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I agree.

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Not in that regard.

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I'm just saying that this has the, this has the ending of This Was All a Dream.

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No shit.

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It invalidates the whole thing.

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If you're bringing him back to 15 minutes, which again, that I still believe.

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Yeah.

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Everything is 15 minutes.

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Yeah, of course.

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15 minutes back after you've already left, but you're still in your 20 year old, 20 years

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later body.

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Yeah.

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So what they do is they...

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Kill your old self.

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Right.

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And then put you into a clone of your younger self.

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Well, I guess if you left at like, what do you say, like two in the morning?

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Yeah, 2.30 in the morning.

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2.30 in the morning.

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Oh, I'm keeping detailed notes.

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These are the most detailed notes I've kept in weeks.

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So at 2.33 in the morning, there is nobody in his bed.

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Right.

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As it were.

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So at 2.45, you do bring back, so you shank the old body.

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Right.

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That's what you have to do.

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Put him in a younger clone that is exactly the same and no one would notice.

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Exactly.

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It has to have the exact same facial hair configuration.

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This clone would have had to been raised up to the point of 17 years.

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Under the same circumstances.

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And you would have had to time it exactly.

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Or I guess because time travel is real, you could just go ahead and time travel the body

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to the right point.

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So that's taken care of.

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Right.

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But yeah, you would have to kill the old body, transfer the consciousness, put it back.

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And they are lying to you saying that they're actually making you younger.

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Right.

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And he's like, these fuckers probably just put me into a younger clone.

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Instead of age-regressive.

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Yeah, they didn't actually make me younger at all, these lying fucks.

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Which that technology certainly exists.

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Yeah.

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Age-regression technology.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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His whole issue is, his whole idea that he said at the beginning was, the contract that

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he signed was you get a job at the end of it.

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Yeah, you get an awesome job.

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No, you end up with your brain in a clone, and you don't have a job, you're 17.

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Right back where you started.

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You're not even old enough to drink.

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Right.

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And they've erased your memory, so you shouldn't know about any of this, but he's got a little

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bit of regression therapy going on.

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It's entirely possible that all of us did this.

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Whoa.

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Dan.

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This could be like the Israeli army.

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This could be the Israeli Defense Force.

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That's where the IDF is.

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IDF is part of EDF.

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EDF has your MDFs, both Moon and Mars.

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It all makes sense.

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Totally makes sense.

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It all makes sense.

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So we have a couple clips left as sort of a coda to the entire experience.

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Kerry asks him how things are going on Mars now.

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Oh my god, I love Kerry.

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I love Kerry so much.

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You wouldn't if you listened to the full things.

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Of course not.

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But I love her right now.

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She wants to know what's going on there, and he has an interesting answer that reveals

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a little bit.

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Do you know, for example, that the reptilians have been completely subdued, or the insectoids

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have been subdued, or neither one of them, or the skirmishes are still ongoing?

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Do you know that kind of information?

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Do you have ongoing intel, or are you completely detached at this time, such that you don't

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get any updates?

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Well, I can certainly tell you that the last time that I was on the Moon was in 2007.

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I remember the closing ceremonies that they had for the returning EDF officers.

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And I can tell you what it looked like then, but that was a good seven years ago.

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So I don't know what they've changed about Luna Operations Command.

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Certainly can't tell you what has happened on Mars since a few years before that, since

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the last time I was there.

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Now I do get regular intelligence reports, weekly intelligence briefs from the Brigadier.

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We have conversations on a very regular basis.

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So I feel like what I know, I have to trust that my people are telling me the truth on.

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And there are certain things, sure, I can use my own abilities, and I can remote view

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things, and I can test things psionically if I need to use whatever abilities I have

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to dealt with.

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Wait, wait, wait.

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Hold on.

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We're getting into psionics now?

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Oh, yeah.

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He's psychic.

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He's got psionic abilities now as well.

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And he can remote view things.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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All right.

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So I know that you're very excited about the Brigadier.

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I'm a big fan of the Brigadier.

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I don't need to know anything about the Brigadier.

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The fact that there is a Brigadier, period, is my favorite.

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We're going to learn a little bit more about him in the future.

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Excellent.

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But so what he's saying is he gets weekly updates.

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Yeah.

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Like briefings.

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Weekly intelligence briefings.

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Which seems like it would be outside of the purview of this organization that wiped his

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mind and probably doesn't want him to be remembering these things.

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Does he have people on the inside?

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He must have people on the inside.

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Well, the Brigadier.

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The Brigadier is the man on the inside.

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The Brigadier is our middle man.

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So here's the thing as he tells it.

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He has clearance and they have requested that he make this information public.

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The army, the secret programs that he was in, the reason that it's fine for him to be

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talking about these secret programs is that they requested that he start to disseminate

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the information because they want to get the public ready for this stuff.

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So he is like the tip of the spear in terms of exposure.

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He's coming out to the crazies right now.

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And then there'll be a steady trickle of more of these coming out until we get them into

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the mainstream.

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On Knowledge Fight.

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Then finally when they're in the mainstream, they'll declassify all of this stuff.

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And we'll all have already been kind of prepared for it.

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And we'll have insectoid technology.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Now here's my next question to this man who unfortunately is not here with us today.

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No.

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Although I bet he would call in.

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God.

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Oh, now I want...

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I'm going to guess that anybody who's been on Project Camelot would call us.

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Probably, would probably still have a conversation here?

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Yeah.

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All right.

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So he returned from 2007.

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Now how can he be certain that the 2007 that he lived through is the same 2007 that we

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lived through?

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I don't know, man.

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I'm tired.

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Come on.

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I'm tired of trying to...

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I'm enjoying this so much.

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And I feel like here's...

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It's very difficult and exhausting to try and wrap your head around like...

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Oh, it is not.

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This nonsense.

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It is so easy.

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But yeah, of course.

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I mean, just his presence...

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I have been preparing for this my entire life.

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I've read and watched so much science fiction.

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Well, just his presence on Earth makes it a different future than the 2007 than he experienced

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originally.

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Right.

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Because he's influencing two space times at the same time.

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So that's one issue.

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So that begs the question, while he was on the moon in 2007, was there the other him

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that exists now?

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The other clone?

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Oh, it would have to be.

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Simultaneously.

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It would have to be.

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Right.

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In terms of time streams.

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Yeah.

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That would be the only way to deal with it.

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So then the other thing that we got to sort of wrestle with is, and this is what I can't

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find evidence of, was he ever in the military in real life?

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Or is all of his service this other time stream where his clone came back 15 minutes later?

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Well, how could you put him in the military?

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Right?

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He was raised in the military and he is a US Marine in the sense that it's the people

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who trained him?

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Were they Marines?

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Do you mean back when he was like 13 before he went in the portal?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Exactly.

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I guess.

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Because how would he get a gig in the military for real?

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I don't know.

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You know, they would have to look him up unless they didn't look him up, unless they specifically

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go out of their way to avoid keeping tags on these people.

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So in fantasy land versus real world.

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Yes.

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In real world, he wouldn't be able to get into the military because-

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Of the fantasy land.

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Well, because of the fantasy land contract that exists.

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Oh, there we go.

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That's what it is.

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The army would be able to see, oh shit, he's a clone of this time traveling super soldier

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that we sent over.

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Also, is the clone a super soldier?

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Is it only in the brain or what's going on there?

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Well, it's fully genetic.

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I mean, otherwise, how would he get these psionic powers?

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That's true.

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How would you have some kind of physical correlation?

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Well, that's not true.

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A lot of these people believe that everybody can remote view and shit like that.

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Okay.

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All right.

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That's possible.

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That's not necessarily a superpower as much as it is like just some elevated human potential.

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But if we are dealing with clones, then you genetically engineer the original, but you

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build the clones from the pre-genetic engineering, right?

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Right.

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So his mom-

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I guess that's how you would do it.

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So if you're removing his embryo first, right?

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You save part of it to clone.

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You genetically engineer the other one that you need, the super soldier, you use the super

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soldier.

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This is exhausting.

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Then when the super soldier comes back, you kill the super soldier, put his brain and

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his soul into the regular body.

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This is really dicey though, because then you've got to make a sort of habit of killing

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super soldiers, which seems like-

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If you're creating super soldiers, you're fine with killing them.

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No, but I mean it would be difficult.

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They're super soldiers.

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No, no, no, but that's the thing.

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I've seen the board identity.

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They trust you implicitly.

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All right.

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This is fucking stupid.

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I did not expect this to go two hours.

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This is bizarre.

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How did you not?

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I don't know.

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You saw me.

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You had no idea.

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This is my element, man.

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I legitimately thought there was a potential that you'd be like, what are we doing?

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No.

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Okay.

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No.

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Good God, no.

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I'm way in.

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Well, we've got the rest of this clip and one more to listen to before we're out.

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You know, I'm also a military officer.

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When I can grab it with my hand, then it's very, very real to me.

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And if I can't pick it up with my hand and I can't stab it, then it has a certain amount

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of less solidity to me.

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So I presume that I'm being told the truth at the moment because I have no reason to

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doubt that.

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I have every reason to believe that my chain of command and my superiors want to help this

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process and want this process to be successful and have provided a lot of information to

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me that has been honest and truthful and helpful to other folks as well.

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So he has this chain of command that is telling him what's going on on Mars now and he's getting

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these updates.

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This is, this is very, I don't like that at all.

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Why?

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Because he's already established that they've been lying to him multiple times.

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Well they lied to him about the job.

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Right.

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They lied to him about, yeah, a whole bunch of stuff.

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They killed him?

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They didn't age regress him.

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They put him in a clone.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Why would you assume they were telling you the truth?

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I don't know.

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He is a, I mean, that's, that's just, you should have a much healthier skepticism.

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Especially when you are considering that you have the ability to use psionics and you can

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remote view things.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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So you were asking about the Brigadier.

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Yes.

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And here is where he explains the situation and before he does, I'd like to posit my theory.

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Okay.

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He's talking to a crazy person.

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That's my theory.

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All right.

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Now let's see what he says.

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Let's see if you agree with me or him.

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Okay, now you've called him a Brigadier and you, have you named him by name?

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I've seen some names, so I don't know if they're specifically that person.

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He goes by the name of Brigadier General Julian Smythe.

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I can tell you that there's the names on his driver's license when he goes home at night

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and there's a name on his driver's license when he goes to work every day and they're

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not necessarily the same thing.

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So when I say that his name is Brigadier General Julian Smythe, that's how I know him and that's

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how we know him at USMCSS, but that doesn't mean that that's the name on his cable bill

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that comes to his house.

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So it's a pseudonym.

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USMCSS?

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US...

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United States Marine Corps Super Soldier.

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Probably, yeah.

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Done.

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Yeah.

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Done.

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I would assume that's what it stands for.

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Nailed it.

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So that's why he's a Marine, because that's part of the Super Soldier program.

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Right, but that's in Fantasyland timeline.

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In the real world timeline, if we allow for Occam's Razor to come into play, he just slept

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through the night of November 18th.

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And woke up fucked up.

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Or he, you know, did some drugs, maybe had some false memories.

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If you go to like hypnotherapy, if you don't see a very credible person, if you are not

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careful about it, it's very easy to implant false memories in people.

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Well that's how during the satanic panic, two people were put in jail for life for crimes

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that did not even happen.

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Yep.

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So that's interesting.

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It happens very frequently.

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Yeah.

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And so my theory would be that that is what happened.

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He has false memories, and he's turned them into a very robust narrative that is fun,

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and entertaining, and that that Fantasyland timeline where he was a Super Soldier did

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not exist.

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He has found other people through the internet who agree with him and have their own fantasy

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narratives that they've decided to work together and combine and reinforce each other.

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One of them is a Brigadier General who has a fake name.

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Brigadier General Julian Smythe.

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Which is a great fake name.

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It's not bad.

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That's a good fake name.

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So I'm guessing that he's getting these briefings and all these data dumps to him that are just

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some other guy reinforcing his narrative, informing him of like, oh yeah, things are

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great on Mars.

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It's wonderful.

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It snowed the other day.

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That's sort of where my brain is.

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I like it.

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I don't know if you're different than that, but that's where I'm at.

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I like it.

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I will say this.

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I would prefer to discover exactly when he got his first memory regression.

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Yeah.

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That's what I would like to know.

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I don't know if I'm aware of that.

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I don't know.

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I'm not going to do too much more digging on him, but I will tell you this.

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I did do some digging on him.

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Good.

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I knew you would.

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And like I said, I can't find evidence that he was actually in the military in real life

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timeline, but I did find a GoFundMe that he started on February 13th of this year.

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Randy Cramer has created a GoFundMe looking for $70,000.

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Okay.

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You might be asking, what's that?

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That's a new car.

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And you might be asking, what the fuck is he trying to do?

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I'll tell you what he's trying to do.

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He's trying to create holographic regenerating medical beds.

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Wait, why do you need the holograph?

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Let me read you.

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Just get a regenerating medical bed.

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Let me read you.

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Don't overcomplicate it.

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Keep it simple.

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In Randy's heroic efforts to help research and develop Earth's first holographic regenerating

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med beds, his funds are running low.

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To continue his awesome endeavor, he needs your help.

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This $70,000 goal will help bridge the gap.

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Once Captain Randy Cramer has these funds, his mission, sanctioned by the Brigadier General,

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is to bring together large investors to employ full-time medical engineers, computer software

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engineers, security services and other personnel, and a team of professionals to develop his

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first prototype.

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The eventual mass production of these futuristic HR, holographic regenerating med beds, means

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that we, as the Earth's population, can finally have access to a technology which can one,

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regrow limbs, two, cure all diseases including cancer, three, age regress an older body to

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a younger body, four, allow us to live much longer, to have fun and contribute more.

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These funds are needed right now, all caps.

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These funds go directly and only to independent Field Commander Randy Cramer.

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The sooner we can reach this goal, the sooner we can all get access to these amazing Elysium-style

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holographic regenerating med beds.

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Quoting Captain Randy Cramer, holographic regenerating med beds, this technology, cheaper,

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faster, less invasive, less traumatic, it just works better, costs less money, cures

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everything, everything, blindness, deafness, limbs that are damaged, limbs that are gone,

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organs that are damaged, neurological diseases, genetic disorders.

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Why is this, look, fuck, the uh, the what's it called?

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ChamWow?

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Yeah.

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Give me, give me a holographic regenerating med bed.

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Regrowing limbs!

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It would absolutely fix and cure every single thing, even the things that our modern science

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can't.

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Not only can you fix everything, cellular regeneration for life extension is not that

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even complicated.

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We're very excited about that.

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It's not even complicated?

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Not complicated.

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Oh.

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Well then why do you need 70 grand, dude?

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Any contribution, large or small, a large was capitalized.

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Large was all caps.

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Oh yeah, I could hear it.

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To this $70,000 goal will be greatly appreciated by all of life's, Earth's life forms, now

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and in the future.

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Especially the folks who are amputees right now, and those who are in pain and dying of

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so-called incurable diseases.

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This is a way you can be a people's champion.

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You can be like The Rock.

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This is a way you can peacefully fight for our right to live and be healthy, by funding

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this super soldier space pilot modern day hero.

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This one small action may one day save your life, or the lives of your family, friends

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or community.

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We all sincerely thank you for whatever size contribution you make to this historic campaign.

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The future of medicine is here now, knocking at our door.

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Thank you for your time and attention.

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Much love and respect, viva la libertad.

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Can you psychically interact with what The Rock is cookin'!

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Holograms.

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Why do you need holograms?

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Why does it need to be holographic?

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I don't know.

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Also, he's gonna need a whole lot more than 70 grams.

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He might need an edit on that.

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He's gonna need a lot more than 70 grams.

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He might also need an edit on that copy.

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Maybe a little bit.

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So this was started in February.

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He's going to create things that will regrow limbs, cure cancer, cure everything in the

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world.

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That's the most important thing in human history.

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Yeah, how much money he's gotten in donations?

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$600.

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$487.

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Mmm.

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Gonna need to lean on your family a little bit more there, bro.

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So I mean, he did brief his parents, so that's good.

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That is good.

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But so this brings us to the end of our exploration of Randy Kramer.

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And it's interesting because this holographic regenerative medbed is very much the sort

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of stuff that Alex Jones talks about.

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He talks about the life extension technology that the globalists have that they don't want

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us to have.

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Oh shit, are you tying this together with a theme that somehow relates it back to Alex

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Jones?

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I am.

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God damn it, Dan.

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You're so good at this.

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So that GoFundMe is kind of, because Alex is never specific about the kind of life extension

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technologies that they have, because why would he be?

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He doesn't want to be nailed down.

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But this is an example of something that a crazy person is promoting on the internet.

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And so maybe Alex is talking about the exact same things, but wouldn't want to be clear

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about it, because then you get mocked.

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So that's one similarity.

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And then Alex is allowing a guy like Steele, Mr. Steele, to come on his show and unspecifically

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talk about Mars bases.

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Well, we've just explained another prominent figure in the world of weirdos on the internet

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who are issuing knowledge of Mars bases.

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So enjoy, bud.

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But I, Dan, there's been a lot of torturing me that you've done.

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That's true.

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This almost feels like you're like, listen, Jordan is running out of gas.

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We got to throw him a bone.

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Which makes me suspect this next episode that we do is going to be fucking horrific.

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No, this is more of a, if that were what I subconsciously was doing, it's more like,

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hey, you made it through David Duke.

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Here's this.

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So there's that.

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You gave me a treat.

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That's not really, I mean, that wasn't my primary motivation, though I'm glad it did

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turn out that way.

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I'm glad you enjoyed that.

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Dan.

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We'll send that money towards our investigation of secret space programs.

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Dan, here's the thing.

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It's kind of tragic that his original genetically engineered body is dead.

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Let me skip through this bit.

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John Rapoport was on the show on Thursday.

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Okay.

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And he was just saying the exact same things he said in the episode that we covered of

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him.

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The exact same thing?

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He's just, he spent like 40 minutes talking about how the DSM-4 doesn't have any blood

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tests in it.

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Oh no.

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Stuff like that.

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So he's just like, psychiatric medicine, it isn't real.

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So maybe he's just a hologram and the real Rapoport.

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Is fucking dead.

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Fuck you, John Rapoport.

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That's the new sign off.

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Fuck you, John Rapoport.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.