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And now,

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Radio, radio, radio, radio, radio, radio, radio,

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Radio, radio, radio,

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No, no, no, no, no, no, knowledge fight.

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.

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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.

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I have great respect for knowledge fight.

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Knowledge fight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying,

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we are the bad guys, knowledge fight.

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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.

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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.

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Need, need money.

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Riddler, Riddler, Riddler.

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Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and.

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Stop it, Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas.

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Andy and, Andy and.

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It's time to pray.

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.

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Thanks for holding us.

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Hello Alex, I'm a system caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Knowledgefight.com.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're couple dudes.

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I'd like to sit around worship at the altar of Selene and talk

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a little bit about Alex Joes.

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Oh, indeed we are.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Quick question for you.

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today, buddy?

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My bright spot today, I guess is just like, man, this trip

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is coming up.

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I swear to God, that's my bright spot too.

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I swear to God.

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Well, we can commiserate about it a little bit.

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It's a dual bright spot.

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I swear to God that I was about to.

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It's right around the corner, basically.

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It's literally, yeah.

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It's very surreal to be sitting here

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and still have a fair amount to do before the trip

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and have done a great deal already

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and to have it creep up.

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I feel very weird, but excited.

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No, my wife and I, we went and played tennis this morning.

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Congratulations.

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Thank you very much.

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It was like a moment of, OK, this has somehow

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gone from something that's like, oh, this

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would be a fun thing to do.

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This is a cool idea.

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And now it's going to happen.

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And now I'm anxious because it's like,

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oh, I thought you meant the tennis with your wife.

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No, no, no, no.

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The trip.

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No, because it is like, oh, shit.

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Stuff can go wrong now that it's real.

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I mean, there are definitely those last minute concerns.

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You have flight cancellations that could come up.

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Things that are just outside your control.

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Obviously, those things still linger over your head.

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But then the other thing that I was thinking, I am shocked.

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It's still just you and me.

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This is a cool thing to have figured out you and me style.

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And I should say, I don't know how much we've talked

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about this, but I want to thank you for stepping up

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as much as you have about basically being a tour manager.

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You really contacted the gigs, the venues, and stuff.

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It's really huge.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I and the Wonks appreciate it greatly.

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Yeah, I mean, it was.

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I could not have handled that.

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No, no.

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I mean, I looked into it at the very beginning

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and it was like, everyone goes through a fucking service

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who has all the contacts.

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I think you learned why.

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And I'm just like, fucking no.

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It's Dan and I, God damn it.

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Yeah, we're stupid.

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We are going to die stupid.

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And that's how it's going to go.

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Yeah, and there's something to be said for that.

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Yep.

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Also, you can call me, ugh.

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Oh, what do you got?

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Damn it.

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Fuck.

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Oh, no.

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I'm sprinkling a little bit of sugar on the nugs

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because I'm all about sweetening the pot.

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Not good.

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Not good.

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I got there.

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You did get there.

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Yeah.

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That is undeniable.

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Yep.

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In this case, I want it to be about the destination,

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not the journey.

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Right, right, right, right.

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No, I understand.

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The journey was a struggle.

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It was, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Here's something I'm thinking.

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What?

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So I have a slight bit of internalized guilt

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about the idea of somebody who would buy a ticket

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to come to QED because they want to see the podcast

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and all of our other shows are sold out.

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Sure.

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I think they'll get more than their dollars worth out

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of the conference as a whole.

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Totally.

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But I love sweetening pots.

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You're like sweetening pots.

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So here's what I'm going to do.

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What are you going to do?

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For that show at QED, I'm going to bring

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one of the three first wine bottles

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that we ever had on the show.

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Oh, shit.

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And I'm going to give it to an audience member

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at the QED show.

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That's wild.

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We, for people who don't know from way back,

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we used to drink a lot of wine on the podcast.

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And it became something of a we like

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to try all sorts of wines.

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And so the first three bottles that we ever

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had on the first episode, I kept those as a joke

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because no one was listening to our show as like a this

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will be valuable to someone someday.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And now the joke's on me because I think someone would

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really actually want that.

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It is kind of a joke on us.

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It's kind of, yeah, it's weird.

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So that piece of unique memorabilia

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will be up for grabs.

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I'm not sure exactly what I'll do.

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I don't know if I want to do a who's come from the furthest

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because that seems like I'm warming up a stand-up crowd.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We'll come up with some way to give it

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to someone who will cherish.

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I'll say it.

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OK.

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You're used to it.

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Like I'm warming up a stand-up crowd.

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You have a lot more experience in that hosting experience.

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I'm the emcee.

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That's what I'll do.

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Yeah.

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So Jordan, today I am exhausted.

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Yes.

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So if I'm a little bit loopy, I apologize for that.

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I woke up very early this morning

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and could not get back to sleep.

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I'm doing OK.

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All right.

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But I feel it, and I worry about it coming out in my speech.

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Right, right, right, right.

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You telling people about it, is it coming out right now?

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Bingo.

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You are 100% correct.

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You would only do that if it was you.

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But we have an episode to go over, and it's rangy.

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Today what I wanted to do was go over

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a bit of the recent Info Wars adjacent news.

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Because there's been quite a bit of things

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that have happened since the last time

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we did a present day episode.

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And so I thought doing one episode of Alex's show

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really wouldn't suffice.

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But I also don't want to do six episodes of his show.

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So I have selected chunks that are

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important to various news pieces that have happened.

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OK.

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So it's kind of a rundown.

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Right, right, right, right.

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Or as Alex might call it, a news blitz.

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A primer.

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Sure.

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I like a primer.

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Any of these things are fantastic ways

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to describe what is about to happen,

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except all of the stories are bullshit,

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and none of it matters, and some of it really sucks.

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Sure, OK.

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But we'll get back to that in a minute here.

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But before we do, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks.

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That's a great idea.

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So first, RFK Jr. has my vote as the only candidate

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to release a song with Dickie Barrett, daytime bartender.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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That is so sad to say.

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Yeah.

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That's a Bostonan song.

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Next, KARE, K-A-A-R-E, and TAS, KARE is, god damn it.

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KARE is pronounced like car-ee.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Not fair.

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Sometimes I wonder if you, you know, I can read block texts.

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So I'm always wondering if you have the left straight, left

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to right thing.

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I generally, I think I'm a little bit more

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able to see a sentence as a whole, but not right now.

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That's for sure.

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That's fair.

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Next, my friends call me rat-lee, pronounce, again,

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pronounced like rat-lie, and said more like rat-lee.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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I'm pre-reading this next one.

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I gotcha.

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Next, I'm a father.

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I'm a mother.

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I'm chip beef on toast.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Next, DJ PJ recommends Wow Wow by Neil Ciciorega

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for your pleasure slash torment.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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And we have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

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So thank you so much to King Friday.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars.

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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark.

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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

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He's a loser little, little titty baby.

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I don't want to hate black people.

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I renounce Jesus Christ.

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Thank you so much.

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Yes, thank you very much.

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It is really funny, though, how much Dicky Barrett has

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songs about bartending at times when you wouldn't

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think someone's bartending.

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Like in the song Jump Through the Hoops,

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it's like my job, it's a 9 to 5 nightmare.

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I'm serving whiskey, stale wit, and beer.

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It's like you're a 9 to 5 bartender.

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That sucks.

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I mean, maybe he's an airport bartender.

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Right, but that sucks.

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That does suck.

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Or you're working at a hotel bar or something.

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It's some kind of place without a lot of character.

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You're not going to have a lot of fun drunks at 9.30 AM.

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Yeah, but then there's another song

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called The Bartender's Song.

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It's like, thank you, sir, may I have another.

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We're really grown to love each other.

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I mean, it's the point of view that tells you

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the difference between the two.

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You know, who's looking inwards and who's looking outwards.

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But I imagine someone singing that like rowdy bartender

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song at like 11 AM, you know, during the 9 to 5 shift.

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Yeah.

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That's depressing.

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That's a little bit tough.

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Usually you wait until one for a song like that.

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I guess another drinking song doesn't, that's not really

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like about bartending.

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That's about counting on a remedy

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I've counted on before.

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Going with the cure that's never failed me.

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Enough of this.

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Yeah.

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He's an anti-vaxxer.

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So depressing.

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OK.

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Let's regroup and listen to an out of context

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drop from today's show.

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This could be my last message.

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Things have gotten so serious here.

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I'm being dramatic.

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I'm telling you.

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He's not being dramatic.

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All right, this could be his last message.

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His last message.

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His final message.

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I can say that it already had, it's not.

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He has given messages since the recording of that.

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All right.

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So Jordan, we got, we got a bunch of different things

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going on here today.

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And because of that, we're going to end up hearing a little

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bit from a number of people in the Info Wars stable.

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So we're going to start with some Owen Schroyer news.

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Sure.

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Of course, he was January 6th.

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Yes.

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Did some business there.

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Who didn't?

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And so he, the news came out this week

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that he was going to be sentenced.

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OK.

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And there's a possibility that he's going to do time.

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Ooh, that'd be fun.

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Yeah, so that is the first little bit of business

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that we are going to touch on here.

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And to give a little refresher for Owen's legal situation,

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in case folks aren't aware, he had a big mistake that he

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made that started everything.

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And that was on December 9th, 2019,

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he disrupted a House Judiciary Committee meeting

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while they were in session discussing one of the times

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Trump got impeached.

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After he refused to come to order,

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he was removed from the chamber and he was arrested.

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Up to this point, I disagree with his politics,

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but I support his ability to do this.

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This is in the realm of activism.

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And in a situation like this, when

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you decide to engage with this level of direct action,

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you're also accepting the consequences

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that come along with it.

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You can agree or disagree with the appropriateness

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of the consequences, but you're kind of a loser

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if you do these sorts of things and don't

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take the resulting punishment with a stiff upper lip.

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Bold, in-your-face protest and shitty whining,

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they don't play well together.

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Yeah, I mean, that's the idea of the meaning of the protest.

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Is you accepting the consequences for it?

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It is a lot of the way that it engages with the people

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seeing the protest.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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If you go to Congress in order to get attention,

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the act of getting attention is not

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going to make anything change.

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It is the consistent level of awareness

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of the punishment for something being, you know, like.

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And when you respond to it with like,

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why am I being punished?

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It's kind of sad.

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Yeah, it's real sad.

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He should want to do some time.

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Yeah, yeah.

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As a result of that arrest, Owen agreed to a deferred

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prosecution agreement.

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This is important to understand.

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Instead of accepting actual consequences like jail

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or a fine, Owen made a deal with the government,

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and he found this agreement preferable to whatever

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else was an option that was on the table.

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This agreement involved him agreeing, quote,

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not to utter loud, threatening, or abusive language,

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or to engage in any disorderly or disruptive conduct

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at any place upon the US Capitol grounds

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or within any of the Capitol buildings

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with the intent to impede, disrupt, or disturb

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the orderly conduct within any such building.

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He also couldn't break any other laws

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during this deferred prosecution period,

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and he needed to do 32 hours of community service.

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32 is an important number of hours.

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It is.

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Yeah.

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And he did zero.

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Exactly.

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I think you can make an argument that the government is

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essentially taking away Owen's right

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to protest at the Capitol here.

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And that might be a First Amendment issue

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if you really wanted to make it one.

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I don't really care, though, for two reasons.

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The first is that this prohibition

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would have gone away after his deferred prosecution

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period of four months passed.

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And the second is that Owen agreed to it.

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If he read this and thought it was

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a horrible breach of his God-given rights,

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then it stands to reason that the right thing to do

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would have been to reject the deal

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and take your chances in court.

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The government didn't take any rights from Owen.

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They offered him a deal, and Owen willingly

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gave up that right, or at least temporarily.

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Yeah.

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As we know, Owen failed to ever do that 32

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hours of community service.

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So the four-month deferment of prosecution

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didn't end after four months.

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There's a chance if he really were

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the target of the government the way Owen and Infor

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was like to present, he would have been scooped up

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as soon as that four months lapsed

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and he hadn't done his part of the deal.

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But instead, things went as normal

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until he violated his agreement by participating

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in the events of January 6th.

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One of the main reasons given for why

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he was given lenience with getting the community service

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done even past that four months was

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that COVID made things harder, which

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is fun because he didn't believe COVID was real at the time.

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Right.

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So that's cool.

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Great.

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That's the only reason he got arrested after January 6th.

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He never went to the building and most likely didn't

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commit any crimes that day, but he

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was in direct violation of a plea agreement

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he signed on to to avoid more serious consequences.

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Also, Owen's lawyer is Norm Pattis,

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so we can chalk that up as the third big L this year.

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Yeah, yep.

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Dude is in a slump.

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He's not having a good run.

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He is hurting.

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I mean, you've got to bench the guy sooner or later, right?

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Yeah, definitely.

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And I don't mean make him a judge.

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I don't mean that.

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No?

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No, no, no, no.

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Do not give him the bench.

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Oh, OK.

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Yeah.

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It's too late.

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I've made him a judge.

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Shit!

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God damn it!

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So on June 23rd of this year, Owen

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pled guilty to a misdemeanor charge

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of entering or remaining in restricted grounds

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relating to January 6th.

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He was looking at three other misdemeanors which

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were dropped in exchange for the guilty plea

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because the government wasn't trying to destroy him.

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They were just trying to get all this stuff over with.

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Yeah.

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The maximum penalty was one year in jail and a $100,000 fine,

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which obviously he was never going to get hit with.

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I was going over Owen's plea deal,

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and they list his criminal history in there.

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One thing I thought was wild is that he

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was arrested one time in 2011 for a DWI

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and possession of marijuana.

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OK.

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Yeah?

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Yeah.

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What do you think about that?

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Oh, that's fine.

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Yeah, that's fine.

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Yeah.

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It's not that interesting on its own.

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But what is interesting is that that happened in Boone County.

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That's the county in Missouri where Columbia is located,

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meaning that me and Owen Schroyer

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were both probably in Columbia at that point in time

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and smoking a ton of weed around that stretch.

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I went to a lot of weird house parties,

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so it's entirely possible that we were at the same party

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and never knew it.

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That's, I refuse to, no.

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No.

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Owen, you have to let me know if you were ever on East Campus.

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Nope.

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You got to let me know, buddy.

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I'm out.

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Did you ever go to the J slums?

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Let me out of here.

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Let me out of this game.

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I don't know who's watching everything.

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Me and Owen played flip cup once.

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Why am I in a coma?

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I think I'm in a coma.

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That's got to be it.

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I knew he was from Missouri, but I thought mostly St. Louis

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was where he was.

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I didn't think of, if you're from St. Louis,

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it's very unlikely you're going to get a DUI

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driving through Boone County.

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Right.

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I guess maybe if you're drunkenly going from Kansas City

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to St. Louis, you'd go through Columbia on I-70, but.

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Maybe he was tailgating.

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That's a long tailgate.

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That is a long tailgate.

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But you never know.

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Mizzou fans are strange.

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He is the cuck destroyer.

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Not this point.

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Oh, no, that's true.

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He may be a sports reporter.

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So recently, the government released their sentencing

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memorandum to the court, and in it,

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they recommended four months in jail, 12 months probation,

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60 hours of community service, and a $500 fine.

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This was largely predicated on Owen's actions

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and his role in the months of incitement

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surrounding the events that would transpire on the 6th.

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Owen showed literally zero remorse for his actions,

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and in the time after his offense, if anything,

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he made things worse.

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I understand where the government's memo

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is coming from, for sure.

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Personally, I'm wary of this punishment.

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I say that as someone who isn't really

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aware of what a person would get,

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like who isn't Owen Troyer for trespassing

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in slightly different circumstances.

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So maybe the sentence is actually completely normal

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for this kind of thing, like breaking

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a deferred prosecution agreement, trespassing.

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I just find myself torn between what

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I think is fully appropriate carrying out

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of a sentence for a crime and what

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I think is more productive for limiting the damage people

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like Alex and Owen can do.

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If Owen is sent to jail for a few months,

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that's not going to be that severe of a punishment for him,

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and he will learn zero lessons from it.

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However, it will be a bonanza for Infowars propaganda.

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They can run coverage that the government is jailing

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journalists and all other manner of fabrications

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around the story, and the fact that Owen went to jail

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will make that propaganda that much more persuasive

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to an accepting audience.

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I don't think he should just get a slap on the wrist,

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but jail seems like it plays into Infowars' hands.

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I would have loved to see a creative sentencing

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judge here, one of those sort of nonsense judges

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who give you the placards and stuff.

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Well, I mean, the problem here is

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that you're saying that you want the crime to happen again,

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but you want him to get hurt first.

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Like, if you don't want the crime to happen again,

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but Owen will make sure it's successful as best he

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can the next time.

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That's what I'm saying.

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If you're the person writing this sentence,

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it's like fucking banking.

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It's like, oh, OK, you've got a million dollar fine.

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Now, you made a billion dollars, but that million dollars

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will teach you a big lesson.

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Yeah, it's stupid.

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You're wasting everybody's time.

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I think the punishment should have

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to be a probationary period of six months

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where he has to have somebody, maybe me, I'll do it for free,

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be on his show and go bap, bap, bap whenever he says something

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that's not true, because that would actually

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have a disruptive role in the things

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that he does that are dangerous, as opposed to going to jail

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where you run the risk of turning them into some kind

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of like a weird martyr.

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He's just going to call into Infowars.

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Well.

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Oh, is it against the rules for him to be on air?

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No, I'm going to have to spoil this ahead of time

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since you brought it up.

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One of the other stories that we were going to catch up on

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was that Enrique Tarrio was scheduled

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to be on Infowars on Wednesday.

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Yeah.

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And that didn't happen.

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Oh, no, what happened?

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I don't know.

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Oh.

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Maybe he couldn't get to the phone, because he's in jail.

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There is that.

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Maybe the warden was sick of the bullshit.

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It's entirely possible that he was just

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punished for some stupid infraction.

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Or maybe he realized this is going

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to be worse for me than not doing it.

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Probably a smart move.

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So anyway.

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Head down, you'll get out in eight, 10 years.

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Yeah.

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I am not that interested in Alex's take on this.

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But I decided to check in on what Harrison Smith had

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to say about Owen's arrest.

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And so he put out a video that was about Owen going to jail

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and how unfair this is and everything.

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And so I thought, hey, let's check in on our little Nazi

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boy.

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Sure.

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Little Nazi boy.

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And here's where we're going to start.

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There's a reason that Alex Jones was targeted

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more than anybody else.

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Obviously, he has a particular skill

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in getting information out in a way that

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is more provocative and attention-grabbing

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than anybody else.

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That's true.

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He's been warning about what we now see manifest

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all around us.

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For the last 20 years, he reported accurately

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on the activities of the globalists

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and their plans for world domination

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and global depopulation.

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There are lots of reasons that could contribute to it.

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But I think one of the main things

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really is summed up in possibly the longest standing

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slogan of Infowars, which is, you are the resistance.

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If you're hearing this, you are the resistance.

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In other words, it's not just that Alex Jones talked

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about all this stuff.

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After all, a lot of people talk about all this stuff,

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maybe not in the way that Alex does and to the extent

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that Alex does.

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But it's not his talking about it, I believe,

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that really put a target on his back.

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It was the activism.

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It was telling people to get involved.

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It was not just describing what's

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going on in the political and geopolitical world

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as some sort of sports game that you're just watching

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and have no impact on the outcome,

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but actually encouraging people to manifest their will,

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to get involved.

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So I totally agree with what Harrison is saying,

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except I think he's speaking in code a little bit.

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Alex didn't speak the truth and encourage people

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towards activism, which is why he was punished.

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He lied to people and demonized vulnerable individuals

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and groups, which Harrison calls speaking the truth.

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He encouraged people to harass and threaten individuals,

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like the parents of slain children, which is what

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Harrison is calling activism.

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These are the things that have made Alex a, quote, target,

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not any kind of threat he poses to the world's power elites.

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If you just understand that Harrison and all of these people

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are full of shit and never speak plainly,

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then you can see how they superimpose that bullshit

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onto reality.

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Nothing Alex does or advocates for is even the potential

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to lead to meaningful protest or activism.

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At the least destructive, it all leads

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to things that enrich Alex.

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At the most, you end up with an attempt

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to overthrow the country and install

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an extreme right-wing dictator.

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It's a con or a coup, but it is never activism.

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Nothing in between.

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I saw you jotting a little note down there.

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I just think it's a bad idea for Harrison to say that Alex

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was telling people to do things, considering

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he has said in court many times that he is not doing that.

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I'm just telling the news, man.

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It is an issue.

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Hey, look, I'm just reading the headlines.

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And here's the thing.

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I mean, if I'm Harrison Smith, this

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is what disgusts me about these people.

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This is what disgusts me, right?

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Comedy days, if I'm finding out somebody's working at,

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you know, like, whenever I took a zany MC job, you know?

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Like, if I find out that a comic is going to jail,

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I'm thinking, spot's opening up, right?

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Then I'm getting out there.

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I'm showing off, all right?

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I'm trying to get that attention, right?

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So I can take that spot.

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Harrison is not doing shit.

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Can I suggest that it's because he doesn't have it in him?

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That's what I'm saying.

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They disgust me.

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You should be, like, if you don't have it in you,

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he should be hiring a coach.

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He should be taking improv classes right now, something.

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He's like the guy when the, like, light turns green.

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He doesn't know to hit the gas.

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Yeah.

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Like, there is no fight or, like, fight instinct in him.

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Yeah, it's just, it's sad.

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It's just sad to watch.

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Like, you've got, you've got Owen, the number two,

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a weak number two.

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You're right.

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A very vulnerable position.

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Yes.

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If any of you ding-dongs were capable at all,

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you would usurp him in a minute.

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It's so easy.

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Yeah.

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And you just get, I mean, he's even got to be gone.

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Maybe.

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I still think that there's a chance,

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I mean, that's just the recommendation

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as of the time that we're recording this.

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So, like, there is a chance that he won't see a day in prison.

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I mean, just, just, I want a deal.

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And this is all I want.

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Make him actually do 60 hours of community service

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or put him in jail.

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He would call, like, doing another caravan tour

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community service.

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Doesn't count.

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No?

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I just want him to actually do the 60 hours

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or face consequences.

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That should be the real test of a man.

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But he's already failed that.

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Exactly.

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That's what I'm saying.

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So you're saying two strikes.

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Two strikes.

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All right.

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You got to, I mean, hey, listen,

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we all think that we're going to get away with not

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doing community service.

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True.

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Right?

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So this, but, but this, this video

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is supposed to be about Owen.

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Right.

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And so far it's about Alex.

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It's entirely about Alex.

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So we got to pivot a little bit over to Owen.

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All right.

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When Chase joined Infowars a little while ago and he was.

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That's a behind the scenes guy.

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Posting things on social media and he was going,

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I didn't expect Owen to be as shadow banned as Alex.

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Obviously, Alex is the main big guy

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and he's just absolutely banned on everything.

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I mean, they've got AI systems that

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can detect his voice and face and will strike

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you down if they detect it.

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And Chase was shocked to realize that Owen Schroyer had basically

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all of the same restrictions.

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This is complete lunacy.

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If what Harrison is saying were true,

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I would never be able to post our podcast anywhere

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without getting shadow banned.

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If this were true, then all the memes about Alex

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wouldn't get millions of views.

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There's so many things that go all over social media

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that are just videos of him going bah.

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Absurd.

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These dudes just aren't really as popular

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as they pretend to be and they fetishize their own oppression

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so much that they need this kind of story to justify it all.

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Yeah.

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It's pretty sad.

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Yeah.

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Just deal with like being pretty successful instead of like

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someone holding you down.

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I was just, I mean, I was just thinking about this,

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just like, man, it is so great to be pretty good.

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I don't, I mean, I was, I was, you know, some level of fame.

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I expected nothing and we have exceeded that by a little.

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And it's great.

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Yeah.

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It's great.

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Yeah.

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Never would I have thought we'd be pretty OK.

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Yeah.

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And like it helps that I've never wanted stuff, you know,

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like I don't want things or anything like that.

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I just enjoy, you know.

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And that we don't pretend that we're

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in a battle with a like mythological demon enemy.

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No.

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That probably helps us a little.

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No, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, I think, I think it is, here's what I'll tell you this.

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Here's what I think is what mainly does it.

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We're still recording in your room, buddy.

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True.

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Just still here.

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And that's not going to change.

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Nope.

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The room may change a little bit.

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I have drapes.

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Yep.

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There's some more decor.

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If we tried to move to like a studio,

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I think we would have to have egos commensurate with like,

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you know, you would have to be like,

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oh, I'm a studio person.

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Well, one time I tried to get those arms that

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attached to the desk so you can hold your mic on it.

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And it just sat there.

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I was like, I'm not using that.

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No.

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But I thought like, that's what people do.

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That's what people do.

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They have the thing and they do the thing.

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Absolutely.

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We hold the mics like we're doing stand up.

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Like we've always done.

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Yeah.

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Oh, well.

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Maybe we're complacent in some ways.

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Probably.

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Anyway, Harrison's a fucking dope.

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Yep.

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Says, yeah, he took a megaphone and led the crowd

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to the Capitol, planting in the minds of the readers

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that Owen somehow stormed the Capitol,

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that he was the one who led people there to, you know,

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specifically attack it.

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Nothing of the sort.

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He was in the crowd that was walking towards the Capitol,

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I believe, after the, you know, violence had started.

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Violence that was started, of course, by the police.

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He said, quote, the Democrats are opposing as communists,

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but we know what they really are.

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They're just tyrants.

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They're tyrants.

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And so today, on January 6, we declared death to tyranny.

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Death to tyrants.

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Schreuer did not stop at the site of tear gas or sounds

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of explosion on the west side of the Capitol.

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He continued marching around to the top of the East Steps,

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chanting 1776.

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Wow.

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Throw him in prison.

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Well, throw him in jail.

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Chanting the year of the foundation of our country.

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That's why you're saying that.

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Throw him in jail, I guess.

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Yeah.

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Of course, he also said, don't go in the Capitol.

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He also encouraged people not to go in the Capitol.

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He and Alex Jones.

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In my introduction, I presented a better defense for Owen

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than Harrison is doing.

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And there's one specific reason why.

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It's because Harrison can't actually

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use all the real information about the case

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without giving up the game.

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Yeah.

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Harrison cannot bring up that none of these defenses

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that he's making matter.

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No one's saying that Owen stormed the Capitol

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or that he was the leader of the crowd.

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It doesn't matter if he told people not to go in.

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None of that matters because he was in violation

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of a deferred prosecution agreement

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that he willingly signed just by being on the Capitol grounds

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that day and having a bullhorn.

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Yeah.

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None of the other shit matters at all.

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Harrison can spend all day with these meaningless,

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but Owen's a good boy type arguments.

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But it doesn't matter because he can't get real with it.

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I mean, the thing that still gets in my craw

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is that if he had just done the goddamn 32 hours,

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then the agreement would have been over.

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It would have been ended by then.

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He could have gotten in trouble for being there.

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But he wouldn't have been arrested for the actions

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that he took.

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But he wouldn't have been arrested for the actions

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that he took.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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A much better defense for Owen, actually,

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and I think that's kind of what you're touching on,

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is that COVID made it impossible for him

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to do his community service.

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Perfect.

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But saying that violates a fair amount of info

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for his narrative foundation, so Harrison can't do that.

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It's a solid defense to say that a sentence of jail time

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is excessive for the violation of this deferred prosecution

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agreement and that there should be some lenience.

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But Harrison can't say that because he

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needs to make Owen a victim of the state,

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not a victim of his own laziness and carelessness.

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Yeah.

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Because InfoWar's editorial position

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has an investment in narratives that are broader than just Owen

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they're forced to make weaker arguments for Owen's defense

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than me.

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Someone who hates Owen Schroyer, though I

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might have partied with him in Missouri at some point

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and not known it.

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Yeah.

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Fuck them, man.

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They can't even defend their own because they won't get real.

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I know.

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It is a weird thing that it's like, the thing you do

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is specifically in opposition to yourself, you know?

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And Harrison should recognize that in the off chance

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that he ever is on the wrong side of this in the future.

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I mean, there's so many things that they could learn from.

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You are not more important than the grift.

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Yeah.

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It's something we've said a number of times.

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It stands.

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I understand that it feels, it would

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feel bad to be yelled at by us if you were on InfoWars,

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but it's a good idea to listen to our show

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to keep yourself safe.

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Right.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, there's good advice

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to be heard even from people who clearly don't like you much

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and think you suck and you're a baby Nazi.

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Yep, yep.

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So anyway, we have one more clip here of Harrison

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because I just got sick and tired of his dumb ass.

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These people did something based on a belief.

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He shares that belief.

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Therefore, he is guilty of doing that thing.

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That's what they're telling you.

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Guess what?

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I guess I'm also guilty.

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Like, as I'm reading this, I'm trying to figure out,

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like, what did Owen do that I didn't do?

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He was in Washington, DC at the time?

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OK.

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And?

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OK, he talked about the election being stolen.

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So did I. He's probably pretty angry about it.

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So was I.

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Mm-hmm.

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I mean, it's sort of horrifying.

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Owen violated a deferred prosecution agreement

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by being at the Capitol, whereas Harrison didn't.

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He didn't have one.

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Alex's wife was marching with them,

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and you might notice she hasn't been arrested either.

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It's probably because she also didn't have a deferred

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prosecution agreement that she was violating by being there.

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This shit sucks.

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I was hoping Harrison would have Owen on to talk about this,

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but I get the sense that maybe Owen is hip to the situation

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and that he doesn't want to make things worse for himself.

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No, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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As it is, this is a complete snooze,

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and that's all we're going to cover from Harrison's show

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and Owen's legal troubles.

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Good call.

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If this is the best Harrison could come up with to defend

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his compatriot, then he's terrible at this,

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and he's not even trying.

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So at this point, I saw that we should probably

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jump to the next story.

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And the next story I intended to cover

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was the Enrique Tarrio thing.

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Sure.

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But of course, that didn't happen.

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Yeah, as is usually the case.

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But because you mentioned something

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that was adjacent to it, I'm deprived of the opportunity

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to pull the rug on you.

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I'm sorry.

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Yeah.

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I apologize.

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Oh, well, you can't win them all.

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You can't.

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So we have to get to number three, subject number three.

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And that, of course, is the death

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of the head of the Wagner group, Evgeny Prigozhin.

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Prigozhin, excuse me.

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Oh, yeah, we haven't talked about that.

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Yeah, he died on August 23 in a plane crash

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that almost everybody who has paid any attention to the world

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is pretty sure was done by Putin.

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Prigozhin had recently attempted a bit of a coup

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and led the Wagner forces to take over a Russian-held town

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and said that they were going to march on Moscow,

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only to later speak with Putin and come to an agreement.

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He was going to face criminal charges, but those were dropped

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and he was set to be exiled to Belarus,

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along with the Wagner forces that were loyal to him.

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And then he died in a plane crash, which

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is widely believed to have been caused by a bomb that

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was on board the plane.

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And as we know, Putin is a thing for killing his opponents.

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Yeah.

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Naturally, Alex and the Infowars crew

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blamed the globalists in Ukraine,

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which is kind of boring, all things considered.

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But recently, Owen Schroyer had an interesting take

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on the situation on the war room.

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And that's something that we should give

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a little bit of a listen to.

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All right.

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So here we go.

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OK.

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Here's Owen.

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All right, before we start taking your phone calls,

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let's just show this video to you.

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Dead Wagner boss seen in new video saying,

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all is fine as conspiracy theories grow.

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Here is the video.

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For those wondering whether I'm alive or not, how am I doing?

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It's the weekend, the second half of August in 2023.

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I'm now in Africa.

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So fans of the discussion of my elimination, personal life,

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earnings, or something else, in fact, everything is OK.

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OK.

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So who knows what the real story here is.

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Like, isn't it Owen's job as somebody

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who reports the news to have a better bit of information

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than who knows?

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That really sounds like someone who

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doesn't give a fuck about the job they're doing.

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If Owen wanted to go one step past who knows,

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like actual journalists and media outlets do,

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he could have learned that the outfit that Pergozian is wearing

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in that video is identical to the one

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that he wore in a video that was posted on August 21,

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which would have been the weekend in the second half

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of August, which is when this was recorded.

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This is two days before the plane crash,

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and the references he makes to his elimination

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aren't about that crash.

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They're about the other very obvious rumors

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surrounding how he was a dead man walking after trying

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that whole coup thing.

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Owen and everyone at Inforz needs

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to stop their investigation at the point of who knows,

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because if they find any further information,

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they don't get to play their games,

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and then they have no reason to exist.

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If Owen looked any further into this

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and found all the indications that this video is from

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prior to his death, then there isn't a story here,

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and there's no opportunity to spin conspiracies to keep

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the audience interested, and without those conspiracies,

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you aren't interested.

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You aren't interested?

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Yeah.

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Is that a contraction you can make?

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Yart!

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Yart interested!

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Oh, no.

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So yeah, that's Pergozian might be alive

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as maybe the theory we're running with.

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That's the thing, I would full-throat that theory.

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Like, because here's what...

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Yeah, why not?

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You can't be...

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Can't disprove it.

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You can't be dumb enough...

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He's somewhere.

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...to think that he didn't know he was under assassination.

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Oh, yeah.

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He would have to be incredibly stupid.

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Yeah, I think the idea behind this would be that he faked his death.

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He, of course, faked his death.

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You would have to fake your death.

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That's the first thing I would do.

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If the moment I signed an agreement with Putin,

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I would be like, okay, how are we going to fake my death?

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Because that dude is a murderer.

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Yeah.

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He murders people.

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It's got to be a crazy death.

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Yeah.

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To make it so people don't think it's fake.

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And it's a big plane crash, and it's a bomb,

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and it's all the stuff.

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And of course, they have to say that they found his remains.

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There's no way Putin's going to say that,

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oh, he faked his death and I know it because I didn't kill him.

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Right.

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If he faked his death and Putin knows he faked his death,

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and he's still going to be trying to come after him.

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Yeah, but he still has to say.

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He has to keep the charade.

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Exactly.

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Because it's a chess game at this point.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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So anyway, Owen has a little bit more of a take on this.

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And I'm not really all that interested anymore.

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It passed the point that Owen is suggesting this.

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Right.

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But this clip is fun because apparently Owen is on a pet name

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basis with Quick Ocean.

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Okay.

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Obviously, people are going to take that seriously and already

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are. There was already rumors that there was a body double

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or he switched planes or whatever before the one got shot

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down. I made 99% chance Putin made the call.

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He's smart enough not to have his fingerprints on it.

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And in classic KGB fashion, he's at the BRIC Summit, shaking

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hands, drinking wine while the thing happens.

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Oh, I didn't know anything about it.

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I mean, if I thought in the past that Putin and Priggy were

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running some sort of their own shadow, I would say that

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if Prigozin is still alive, that that's proof that was not

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the case.

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And there is a real struggle going on.

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But we know there already is a real struggle at the Russian

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military.

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Wait, what?

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Yeah.

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So Owen's take here is essentially that if Prigozin is dead,

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then there isn't a real struggle in the military anymore.

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I guess, but if he faked his death, then there is.

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Because he's leading.

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Maybe I'm backwards.

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I'm not entirely sure, but either way, it doesn't make a

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whole lot of sense.

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I mean, I just feel like this is just too obvious.

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All right, either Putin killed him or he faked his own death.

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You would have to be insane.

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Alex would generally like to go with blaming it on Zelensky

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because that works for his pro-Russia leanings.

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But I mean, I understand that, but I mean, like, it doesn't

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make any sense for anybody but Putin.

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It makes so much sense.

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You're right.

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It also does not make sense for Zelensky, really.

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It makes no sense for anyone but Putin.

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No one.

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Yeah, like not even people who want to maintain stability

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in Russia.

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It is more unstable with Putin there than without him.

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And everybody wanted him to stay alive except for Putin.

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Just go to Belarus.

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Man, crazy.

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So anyway, he's swinging.

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Oh, and swinging for the fences.

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You can say that about him.

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All right.

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So the next thing that made some headlines unfortunately

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takes us back to Harrison Smith.

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Oh, God damn it.

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In the past week or so, the hashtag ban the ADL had been

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trending, which Twitter's owner, Elon Musk, even got into

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the act about.

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Now he's getting in, having fun with, get rid of this ADL.

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The levels of rampant antisemitism on display was truly

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shocking. And to be clear, having legitimate criticisms

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of the ADL is not antisemitic.

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They're an organization that makes decisions and no one

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has a perfect track record.

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But it's important also to be clear that this is not what

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that hashtag was or any of that.

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No, no, no, no.

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People like Alex really hate the ADL because they point

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out how the stuff that they say is really antisemitic

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and dangerous, which prompts them to insist that the ADL

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is trying to ban free speech.

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Right.

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It's not a sincere argument.

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It's a game.

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Anyway, the ADL has been a target for Alex going all the

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way back to his early career when he and Mel Gibson's Nazi

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dad whined about them on air at length for criticizing the

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Passion of the Christ.

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Yeah, this is a lane that Infowars has always driven in

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and I think that they were feeling a little left out when

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they saw the shitheads on social media playing their game.

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So Harrison decided to get splashy.

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Oh, no, he got on air on September 1st and said that the

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ADL was quote our self-appointed unelected Jewish overlords.

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On its face, you can easily see the signaling that he's

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doing to antisemitic groups that he panders to.

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Yeah, he evokes the idea of Jewish overlords, a hat tip

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to the protocols of the Elders of Zion.

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Sure.

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That's about as subtle as a car horn.

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Yeah.

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Some media outlets covered this comment that Harrison made

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so I'm not going to recover that and if I'm being honest,

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it's really not that interesting.

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Yeah, that's what Harrison and Alex say basically every day.

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These outlets that are breathlessly covering this one comment

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Harrison made would be scandalized on a non-stop basis if

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they actually watch these people's shows.

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Yeah, it is wild.

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This is tame for like their commentary about the ADL.

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Yeah, I was I'm blown away that this is I thought you were

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about to say that he then said some real Nazi shit.

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No, this that was what some of the headlines were about

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the Jewish overlords comment.

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I mean, listen, I don't I don't support it.

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Sure.

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No, it's bad, but it doesn't if we don't have a we don't

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have a meter anymore though.

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No, we just don't know and my only meter at all here is

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that like you could have found something way worse.

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Yeah, totally totally if you're in the business of a headline

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there's better headlines that are far more like uniquely

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offensive, right?

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Right, but I think this is bland offensive, but it is still

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offensive, right?

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I think I think what it is right is because we live in it.

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We know the varying flavors of horror.

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It's this right do the good, right?

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Right, right, right, right, say it's awful.

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But for them, there's only one flavor of horror.

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There's you know, it's so and so they've got their horror

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so they're not going to go into more horror to wade deeper

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into it.

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That's the difference between them and me.

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I'm built different.

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You're built different.

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I dive in and like if there's this bad thing in here.

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I wonder what else is there.

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Oh, you and Patrick Mahomes, both Missouri.

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Right, Patrick Mahomes, Owen Schroyer and I once did a

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cake stand contest.

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All Missouri boys.

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Why not?

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I don't know if he's from Missouri but he plays with the

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juice. So I do want to cover something and it's not Harrison's

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comments.

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Okay, so I'm going to cover Harrison fielding a call from

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a listener after this dust-up.

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This is a caller who's mad that Harrison isn't antisemitic

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enough. Sure, which creates a dynamic that I actually do

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think is interesting.

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This is territory that Alex himself is fairly used to navigating

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but Harrison is far and away the worst and least talented

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on-air Infowars talent.

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So let's see how he deals with this.

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Yeah, see if he can swing this call.

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I'm interested.

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So here's where we start.

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Okay with that we go back out to your phone calls for this

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final segment for welcoming Laura Loomer.

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We have gold in Arizona.

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Gold in Arizona says the West is collapsing.

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Thanks for calling in gold.

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You're on the air.

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Hey, actually I said the West is collapsing because of people

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like you and Alex Jones because you refuse to acknowledge

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God's Word that says that unbelievers like Jewish people

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who don't believe not including Jewish Christians are our

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persecutors Galatians 4 21 through 31 says that they are

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our persecutors and you refuse to acknowledge that you like

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to be like the gay people who think they could just manipulate

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God's Word ignore God's Word and get away with it.

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You're no different than they are when you ignore God's Word

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and then you want to act surprised when the ADL is in control

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of the definition of anti-semitism, which is basically Christianity

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to them.

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But you know, they're validating every every Christian throughout

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history who has says listen, these people are dangerous.

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They're out for blood.

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They want us you and Alex Jones.

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You want to live in a naive fantasy that freedom of religion,

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you know, it's freedom of religion.

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That's not explicitly Christian.

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It's Satanism Aleister Crowley said do as thou wilt should be

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the whole of the law.

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So, you know do it do whatever you want.

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That's Satanism.

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That's what you promote you and Alex Jones you promote Satanism

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and then you want to act surprised when we're being persecuted

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by Jews, which the Bible warns you about and go and read

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that everybody Galatians 4 21 through 31.

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They are our persecutors in the Bible and Revelations also

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says that they call themselves Jews, but actually worship

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Satan wait.

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What if Satan isn't that what it says?

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I'm just did you call me gay confused.

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I just know what I'm saying.

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I'm saying the gay people ignore God's Word and you do the

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same thing.

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We can I ignore God's Word very quickly.

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How so so it's cute that Harrison tries to deflect things

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with a joke there with the are you calling me gay bit of

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business? It's stupid and it's only meant to buy himself

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a little time and hopefully put the collar on the defensive,

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but you can see it doesn't work because this collar means

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what he's saying and he has thought out his position.

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Harrison has to do this because in this call he needs to

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dance this collar has a coherent position which isn't to

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say that he's right or that I agree with him nor is it to

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say that he's right that if you're a Christian you have

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to hate all other religions, but his position follows from

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its premises like it actually goes from A to B to C right

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Harrison's does not because in for his ideology is so dependent

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on hiding behind crypto language like the globalists in

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order to mask the real themes that they're preaching that

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Dynamic puts Harrison in a bad spot Alex Alex will usually

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be able to handle this with yelling putting someone on hold

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and then assigning position to them that they didn't say

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in order to attack a straw man version of what they bring

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up Harrison's tactic here at the start is a bit worse from

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a tactical perspective.

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I wouldn't have I wouldn't have gone this way if I got this

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vibe off this guy already out the gate.

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You let him talk too long, right?

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He got too much air time, but Alex would never have let

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him get that much air time.

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I think that part of that is cuz Harrison agrees with him

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sure and then second because he doesn't know how to handle

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this. No, he doesn't he's in a bad spot.

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I mean just try get a coach something do some laps invest

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in your something, you know, do some mock radio shows where

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you can encounter difficult situations in a safe environment

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like it bums me out, but it's like I for when I stop and

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really think about it for years of my life for free or for

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money. I just went out and yelled at people.

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Well, and you know get better at it take it even a step

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further. You're just talking about shows.

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Yeah about how many nights were at open mics.

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No, yeah, only people that you're talking to were other

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comics who hated you didn't give a fuck and we're just waiting

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to go up and do the same thing.

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You're doing totally a completely ungenerous audience where

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you're doing the going through the motions somewhat and also

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like feeling out where words are and how it feels to say

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different things.

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Yep, because given the opportunity to be in front of a

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group of people you wanted to be ready.

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Yep.

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These guys don't do that.

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They don't do it.

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No, it just never occurred.

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You know one year I I was out more than 27 days of every

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month except for February.

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I was out 27 days.

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I don't know whatever it was, but it was like every night

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hitting an open mic or doing a show.

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Yeah, getting very good at the thing that I wanted to be

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good at.

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Yeah, there were stretches of time where I was like minimum

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one a night.

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Yeah, what minimum one time on stage a night and like, you

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know, you're still doing a day job.

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You're still like it's brutal.

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It's brutal.

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But a lot of that like I mean so much of that was because

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there's just so much talent here in Chicago that people were

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inspiring.

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Yeah, and then you had people like Danny Callas around when

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you the three mic a night advice.

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Oh, man.

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Danny is I'm so mad at him for drilling that in my head.

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You've got this guy who's hilarious really funny.

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Who's a headliner and it works his ass off and still at open

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mics.

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Right open mics than you makes you feel so lazy in a good

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way in an inspiring way.

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If you're not going out and putting the time in makes you

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want to hustle and makes you want to grind and it makes you

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a better comic and also never forgive him for it.

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Right so so this caller the brought up Galatians.

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Yeah, and we'll get into that a little bit later.

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I was hoping we would yeah, but for now, let's just move

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along with the call.

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Okay, like there are a lot of so-called Christians who promote

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being gay or they say it's okay to be gay or they themselves

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are gay and they say oh, yeah, God's okay with that and they're

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ignoring God's Word.

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That's what I'm saying.

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The dynamic is that they ignore God's Word and we can say

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listen, what's wrong with you?

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Don't you see clearly here what it says about being gay and

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they will argue with you all day long about how no God's not

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really like that and you're doing the same thing.

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Okay.

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Have you have you have you checked?

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Have you checked your eye for a plank of wood today gold have

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you do you remember what Jesus said about pointing out a Bible

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Judo you did something wrong, right?

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No one's allowed to point out where you're doing something

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wrong.

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I'm trying to make you guys better.

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Oh, oh, I should I should thank you that gold.

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I should I should thank you for helping me in all of this

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God's Word and quit ignoring God's Word and quit hurting the

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country and the whole civilization in the West Harrison's

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underwater in this thing.

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Yeah, this is not good.

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He's floundering.

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He tried his Bible Judo and then he got punched in the face

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and he wilted.

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Yeah wilted.

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Yeah, you know pull the log out of your own eye before the

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spec.

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Oh, so I can't tell you anything and then you're wrong.

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Oh, I got damn I had one move.

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Yeah, I thought that would really make this guy on the

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defensive and it didn't work.

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I am still on the offensive punching me in the face.

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Yeah, so then it comes to a point where Harrison's like,

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what do you want me to do and the answer is fucking obvious.

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Yeah, but he still asks okay and quit hurting the country

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and the whole civilization in the West and and and actually

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acknowledge God's Word by doing what I still don't I still

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don't understand what it is that you think that we're doing

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burn unbelievers.

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Okay, I'm believer.

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Yeah, not me.

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I believe in God.

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No, I'm saying no you but no when you say you believe in

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God, you're supposed to believe in God's Word.

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I'm supposed to believe in the way in the guy the way you

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believe in God.

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I see you're you're supposed to you're the you're the right

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one and everybody else is wrong.

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Present another translation or a better a better understanding

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of what we're being told in Galatians 4 21 through 31.

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Okay, great.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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That's enough.

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That's enough gold.

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Thank you for the call.

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I just you know, it's I'll try to be nice here.

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I'll try to be nice good for you too late.

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I mean you let him talk too long to hang up on him there

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and save face.

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Yeah, you could have hung up on him earlier and been like

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I don't accept this kind of talk on my show and maybe stood

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on your own two feet.

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Yeah, let him talk too long.

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He clowned on you and now you look so weak hanging up.

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Yep.

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So I told you we get back to Galatians cuz he brought it

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up again.

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So I'm just gonna read that 10 verses.

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Did you did you find a better translation?

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No, but I have an interpretation and and context for it that

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will be helpful for this anti-semitic fuck sure.

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So here is the verse is versus sorry.

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It's chunk attacks.

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Yeah quote tell me you who want to be under the law.

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Are you not aware of what the law says for it's written that

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Abraham had two sons one by the slave woman and one by the

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free woman his son by the slave woman was born according

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to the flesh but his son by the free woman was born as the

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result of a divine promise.

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These things are to be taken figuratively the woman represents

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two covenants or the women represent two covenants one covenant

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is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves.

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This is Hagar now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia

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and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem because

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she is in slavery with her children, but the Jerusalem that

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is above is free and she is our mother for it is written

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be glad barren women you who never bore a child shout for

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joy and cry aloud you who were never in labor because more

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are the children of the desolate women then of her who has

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a husband now you brothers and sisters like Isaac are children

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of promise at that time the son born according to the flesh

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persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit it is

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the same now, but what does the scripture say get rid of

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the slave woman and her son for the slave woman son will

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never share in the inheritance with the free woman son.

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Therefore brothers and sisters.

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We are not children of the slave woman, but of the free

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woman. So do you understand the way that this could be used

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by this guy interpretively to be like the slave woman is

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representative of Jews?

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Yeah, the free woman is representative of Christians.

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Yeah, but it's really a lot more complicated than this.

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So Galatians is a book in the Bible that is one of the Paul

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letters one of the letters that Paul is sending to his church

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his churches that he's established like Romans the Roman

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Church Corinthians the Corinth Church Thessalonians.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so you have all of these things and Paul his whole

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game was going around and he's founding these churches or

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you know going to these communities and being an apostle

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to these already existing places now Galatians Galatia

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is a place where he had a real sense of ownership over

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these these churches and this letter Galatians is pretty

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salty because here's what's going on at this time.

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He has founded these churches that he really feels like

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are his and he is preaching this way of existing and this

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way of relating to the laws of like the tradition right

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it was in fighting between him and the other apostles about

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how the it's mostly about circumcision.

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Yeah, honestly, that sounds right and ways of like keeping

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kosher and what have you so he's established these churches

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and there are other apostles that are coming in and they

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are preaching a way that is opposed to what he's saying.

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It involves keeping with these older laws, right?

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So yeah, the people that are there in Galatia.

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They are not people who are like Jewish people who are

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converting to this new Christ centric form, which wasn't

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understood as like Christianity in opposition to Judaism

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at the time.

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No, it's you know, it's far more complex things are a lot

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more fluid whenever you don't have the Catholic Church right

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and so you had different influences coming in and Paul felt

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a sense of ownership over those Galatian churches.

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Yeah, and so there's this this desire to be like no no the

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people who follow the law.

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They aren't the people who are like me and so it's not like

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the Jews are over here and the Christians are over here.

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Yeah, it's a Paul kind of defending his turf area.

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Yeah, and as was pointing out to me by my dad when I was

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talking to him about it.

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It's like this is also about circumcision and like Paul is

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being like don't circumcise and like that's a battle you

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can only lose once and that those we put it in like them.

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That's a good point because he's pretty hot.

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He's coming in hot.

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Yeah as it were in these letters, but then there's also

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places that you can find like fairly different positions

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that Paul is giving over time to other churches because

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they're in different circumstances.

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Yeah, and there's less ownership that he feels over those

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churches, right?

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So when you when you hear what's written in here, obviously

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for approaching it from an anti-semitic lens right and looking

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for things to justify and say like hey, it's biblical my hatred

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of Jewish people sure you can kind of get that there, but

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it's something we talked about a hundred times.

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It's like if you have a position that you want to justify

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you probably will be able to find just about anything in

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the Bible and force it into the the hole that you need it

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to fit into.

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Yeah, why else would it have lasted this long?

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It's very useful in a lot of ways for good and for bad.

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I mean, that's that's the idea.

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We don't keep things that aren't useful as a species.

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Yeah, so that those are those were my notes of the understand

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like the context right about Glacier the right Paul's coming

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in hot.

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He feels like he owns these churches, right?

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I do remember that Paul kind of gets to be a bit of an asshole

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later. Well, actually no, I think that was a question that

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I had for my dad.

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I think hey is Paul kind of a dick, but I think my understanding

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of it was Paul didn't change that much salt and salt and

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Paul aren't that different.

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That was my that was my understanding of the his later actions.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, there's he Paul's pretty like mad at these folks who

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are coming in and having like a different message for the

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churches that he feels like are his own like here's here's

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a little bit also from chapter 5 verse verse 11 and 12 brothers

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and sisters if I'm still preaching circumcision, why am I

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still being persecuted in that case the offense of the cross

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has been abolished for those agitators.

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I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves.

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Like there's like this this aggression that he's coming in

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because of that context surrounding it and this caller, you

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know, he asked for another interpretation of this and another

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understanding of it that doesn't say hey the Jews are our

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persecutors right and that's it right.

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He's not interested in that and Harrison is unequipped to

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deal with this in any form.

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He doesn't even know this verse that the person is talking

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about. So he's in no position to engage with the bigot on

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the bigots terms. Yeah, and and and then refute what the

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bigot is saying in order to defend Infowars position as I

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guess an outlet that is too multicultural.

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I mean the thing that always confuses me is that people

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somehow imagine that people were different back then, you

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know, and it's like if you put any burgeoning religion into

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a space in time where you can't communicate instantly with

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all other groups of that then the next time y'all get together

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you're all going to find out you believe weird different

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shit. That's how it works every goddamn time.

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Well, I mean think about if you go to college away and you

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come back and you find that your friend is now into something

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strange. It happens every time a small social group and able

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to communicate completely with another small social group

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will find out the next time they get together that they disagree

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on something and then they're going to bitch at each other

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and that's the problem with religion.

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So sayeth Jordan so here I have this clip is about three

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minutes long and I'm keeping it as a whole because it's the

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rest of Harrison's response.

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Oh boy.

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He tries to be nice and here is his response to this caller

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who wants him to Jewish people more.

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I think he's going to hate Jewish people in this response.

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It's a very least incompetent response.

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Okay, try to be nice here.

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I'll try to be nice.

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It's it's people like yourself gold that really make me question

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whether it's all worth it after all.

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Is anybody else on any airwave going after the ADL the way

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that we're going after them going after the evil people the

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way that we go after them.

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Is anybody else on any platform criticize Israel the way that

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I do not because they're Jewish but because they do evil

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things. Wait, wait, wait.

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So the three groups he has there are the ADL. Uh-huh.

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Okay Israel.

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Yeah, and evil people.

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Yeah, interesting.

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Yeah, just like every government does does anybody go out on

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a limb is anybody have as many articles as we do calling us

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anti-semites calling us horrible things because podcasts stand

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up for the rights of Americans against anybody who's trying

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to circumscri you know cut them off regardless of you know,

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who's doing it.

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So here we are taking all the slings and bullets actually

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counteracting the narrative that is continuously laid down

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by the mainstream media and instead of people encouraging

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us instead of people saying wow, we really appreciate how

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you guys are going out on a limb and saying things in such

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an extreme way.

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That's that's truthful and that's necessary.

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We get little ankle biters like yourself that tell us we're

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not doing it enough.

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We're not doing it the way that you would do it.

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Thank God this guy got hung up on otherwise.

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Wow way in might be able to respond with ya.

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No kidding in your interpretation of the Bible and it really

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makes us just look around and go.

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Okay, so we're suffering all of this backlash where I have

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our friends and family believing horrible things about us

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because the media tells them the things that aren't true.

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We're suffering all of this backlash because your dad doesn't

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talk to you anymore because we insist that's his kid right

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in up front about what we believe and loving everybody just

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like Jesus Christ instructed us to and what is it?

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You know, what are the people that we're trying to fight

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for tell us that we're actually the cause of all the evil

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and it's actually our fault and actually there's no appreciation

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for what we do.

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It's not good enough.

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So what you're doing is taking the few people that are actually

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fighting for Christianity fighting for the West fighting

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for the actual values that America was founded on and thrived

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on until they've been systematically dislocated from our system.

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You're taking those people that are actually standing up people

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like myself and you're making them just go.

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Yeah, why would it why it's not worth it.

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Why would I do that?

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Why would I put myself out there?

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Why would I make myself even more of a target when even the

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people that agree with me and are fighting with me are just

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ankle biting petulant little scumbags like yourself gold.

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Do you realize what your problem is that he's whining what

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effect this has on people who are actually putting ourselves

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out there and actually suffering the slings and arrows from

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the mainstream media as we are pushing back against their

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satanic agenda and recognizing it fully and that I like

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what would you rather?

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What would you rather I do gold?

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What would you rather I do than talk about this on a daily

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basis continually on how did he get far enough for you?

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You're not satisfied you want more.

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It's just then you do it gold you go out and do it you go

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out and put yourself on TV.

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You go out put yourself on the radio and say the things that

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you want to say and see how well it works out for you until

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the meantime keep your criticisms to yourself go jump in a

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lake this caller doesn't want Harrison to blast the ADL or

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criticize Israel.

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He wants him to condemn all Jewish people.

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There's no way Harrison doesn't understand this and you see

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this response because this caller is too direct about what

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he believes and he doesn't sound like an idiot or raving

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lunatic.

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So it's not easy to just run circles around him on top of

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that Harrison has no idea what Galatians 4 says so he can't

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even engage with that part of the call.

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So he gets accused of not attacking Jewish people as a

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whole and he says that he's mean to the ADL and Israel which

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is meant to pivot the conversation away from the uncomfortable

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territory where he would lose this Nazi purity test which

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for some reason he doesn't want to do I yeah his his allegiances

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are very strange.

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It is well, it's I would say it's unclear but it's pretty

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clear. Yeah, a lot of this response Harrison is giving boils

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down to I don't want to do this job anymore because people

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complain that I don't hate Jews enough when I feel like I'm

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doing a great job of it, which is a little strange.

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Yeah, Harrison also gives up the game a little bit at the

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end there when he says if you think I don't go far enough,

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why don't you start a show and do it see how well it goes

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for you.

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This is kind of an admission that Harrison knows that his

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existence in the marketplace relies on him going pretty far

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but not past a certain line where he would no longer be palatable

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to potential new listeners.

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He's telling this guy essentially I assure you we're pushing

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this as far as we can while still staying profitable.

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Yeah, whoops.

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Yeah, I mean it really is like that is your criticism.

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That is what you say to somebody you're not going far enough

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and then they say I would like to have money and still be

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as far as I can go right.

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So here's where I am.

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Yeah, I have made that deal and then they go well that deal

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corrupts you and you go.

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Oh, yeah, that is exactly what it does.

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Why don't you go be pure about your Nazism and see how many

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radio stations you can be on.

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Meanwhile fucking Harrison Smith shows not on any radio

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stations.

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I find it always fascinating whenever someone makes a perfect

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argument against their own existence to someone else.

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Yep.

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You know, yeah and indicts themselves.

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Yeah, total like you fool especially the the more abusive

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they are about it and the more like full of themselves

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they are about destroying their reason for existence the

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better it is.

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Yeah, so we got one last big piece of news.

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Okay, and that is that Alex Jones the man himself the headliner

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as it were sure.

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We've seen the the riffraff open micers boy.

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Yeah, the feature act the back bench.

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Yeah, and now we get the headliner Alex Jones himself, right?

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He was on Russian television.

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I don't know if you were aware of this.

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I I still maintain as much as I can a complete unawareness

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of what's going on in info.

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Well, that's great because this interview is nuts.

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Okay, so Alex went on RT.

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No, no, so during after the 2016 election Alex famously went

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on with Alexander Dugan and he called him the greatest example

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of an American person and then Alex cried.

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Yeah about how wonderful Russia thinks he is.

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Well, that was all fun.

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Sure, but now he's on with another propagandist dude named

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Vladimir Solovyov and he's I don't know if this is still

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on that in 2018.

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He started hosting a show called Moscow Russia Putin where

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they would go over what Putin did that week all the great

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accomplishments.

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He'd done.

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Oh, man.

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It's a little that is comically sycophantic.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's that's hard to believe so he has a show and

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he is interviewing Alex on now if people want to enjoy this

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there is a video that you can find of stuff that was edited

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out and it's him screaming at his staff and very much like

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Alex very much like you push the button.

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I've got Alex here.

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I can't hear him.

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Oh, it's his staff.

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Yeah.

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Oh my God, that's amazing.

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And you can see Alex smiling and so funny.

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I wanted to play some of that because it is pretty funny.

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Yeah, but it's in Russian, so I can't really it's imagine

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screaming in Russian and you go out.

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Yeah, you can find that video and their subtitles and there

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is something enjoyable about that.

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But there are points where it's kind of clear that there's

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like this is jumping a topic and that's usually places where

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things were cut out pretty substantially.

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So anyway, this dude is a giant old Russian propagandist

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dude and here is where we begin with him talking to Alex very

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good morning to you.

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It's definitely good to be here while we're still it's good

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to be here while we're still alive and not dying a nuclear

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war. So real quick Russian time is evening for Alex.

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Yeah, so he might be half in the bottle.

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Yeah, it does.

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It does seem like we're already on nuclear war, but we're

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also a low register Alex drunk.

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That's just drunk.

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That's true is a groggy drunk.

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Yeah.

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Yeah heart days night drunk.

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He does not seem fully there but also this dude swears a

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lot which is a little fun.

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That's fun.

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If I have to hear some kind of a shithead bigot Russian

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propagandist dude, I at least want him to say fuck a few

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times. I like a good.

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Yeah, and he can swear like an adult not like Alex.

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That's good.

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So you might hear a little of that.

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All right.

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Well, you know, it's one of those things you can you never

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know. You never know.

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It can be our last nuclear war right and first whatever

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discussion but who cares, you know, basically we live in

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hell. So finally our job is try to stop it coming on earth

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for everyone, but you're doing it from your side.

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You're telling people what you believe in and they are blamed

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for that you've been cancelled from where it ever platformed

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the reason the United States and they still cannot close

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you. So what kind of forces in you what kind of guts do

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you have that they can do shit with you?

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Well, I love our Republic and I'm proud to be an American

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but I have to be honest.

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I live in an occupied globalist country with corporate

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oligarchs like Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates and control and

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they are arresting everybody.

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They are dissolved our borders.

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They're annihilating us.

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And so America major polls show 80 plus percent are against

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war with Russia.

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We know that George Soros and other started the war nine

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years ago and the average American understands.

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This is your back door.

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This is your homeland.

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This is where Russia started was in Ukraine.

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The average American is not with NATO.

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We are not with the globalist.

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Our Pentagon is captured.

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Our country is captured and yes, I'm facing death assassination.

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My crew is they're trying to put my co-host in prison next

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week, but I cannot back down at this point and I'm not saying

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the Russians are perfect.

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Nobody's perfect.

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But we stand against nuclear war and we stand against the

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Nazis that have launched the attacks in Ukraine.

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And so we have to tell the truth about what's happening.

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Even if it gets us killed because the globalist are insane

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mentally degenerates, but Joe Biden doesn't even know who

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he is and they are so used to wielding American power of

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the country.

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They've hijacked like hijackers to take over an airplane.

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They're flying the American airplane into the building like

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9-eleven that is Russia.

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And so I'm trying to stop that that was a loyal American has

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a bit convoluted.

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Yeah, that was a difficult metaphor to land if you will

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there hijacking, you know, like hijackers, right?

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That's a simile.

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Yeah, and then 9-eleven, what is Alex?

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What's his stated position on 9-eleven now?

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I was wondering the exact same thing.

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Yeah, how do we deal with 9-eleven now?

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I can't deal with it through Alex because I don't actually

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know what he believes.

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No, no, I know that he doesn't believe the official story

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sure, but exactly which version of the conspiracy stuff.

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He believes has changed so many times that I have no idea.

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We've been through a lot of different obvious reasons that

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this happened and a smoking gun prove everything and then

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somehow are different the next time we hear about it.

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Yeah, so Alex pretty pretty pretty he likes Russia a bit

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and the average American he speaks for them.

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I think I think one of my problems here and is going to

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be this for the rest of our time here.

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Growing up because of the way we grow up in culture in America.

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The Russians were always the bad guy, you know that accent

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that especially to Alex.

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Yeah, that specific accent though was is the bad guy in

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spy movies that type of shit, you know and wrestling.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, and so to hear the same like you will die accent be

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used to he was canceled like that.

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No, the stakes are not the stakes are too low for that.

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I am worried about these people with the woke mind virus.

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Exactly like no you eat.

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No, we can't do that.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, that is that is hilarious.

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It's so trivial James Bond.

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You have been cancer for the last time like what do we do

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alien coming to Earth and it's like I have been shadow-banned

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like what yeah, the stakes are what are we doing here?

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Get out of here.

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Come on down.

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Yeah, so nuclear war is hot on the mind.

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Sure, but there might be a plus side to it.

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Okay.

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I just want the Russian people to know that just like you

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had oligarchs and you were occupied for a few years after

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the fall of Soviet Union, but you kicked them out you are

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struggling in a death battle to remove the controllers of

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our country and we just hope in that process that we don't

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all kill each other, but I understand the position rushes

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in and so, you know, I'm very sad that we have nuclear war

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and you know half the Russians die, but you already had that

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happen in World War 2 or at least a third of your people

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die. So there is nuclear war at least it'll kill the globalist

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so we can all die together.

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I hope we can stop that but I have a little solace that maybe

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God's going to work through us all we all just kill each

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other, but we're so cool do it.

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I have to be very honest with you.

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That's an interesting God Alex you will and the apologies.

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Oh might be part of where he's yelling and a long time past

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that was like back 20 plus years ago.

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Yeah, we let a little drop out there.

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He's talking about how he lived in Alabama at one point he's

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for a period in his life.

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That's part of what was dropped there, right?

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So just for context for later the oh, so that's why he's

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that's why his English is very it's pretty good.

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Yeah, it's pretty good.

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Yeah, and I mean like you like I said, he swore fantastically

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earlier.

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The guy was smooth.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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See Alex is a worm.

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This is ridiculous.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Oh, yeah, you had oligarch problems for a couple of years.

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Oh boy.

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Also Alex doesn't even believe what he's saying.

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I know the globalists have armored redoubts and underground

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bases where they're going to survive nuclear wars.

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He knows that what the fuck is he talking about?

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Listen, I am just I just don't like the constant of number

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the number of people who live or die within the set future

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is the like a plazometer.

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It's a mood ring.

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It is a mood ring.

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You know, like yeah, okay only a hundred people are gonna

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know he's feeling really good today.

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Yeah, everybody's dead.

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Oh, man.

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We're in for one of those Alex.

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I'm going home early.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Like it's it's nuts.

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Yeah, but also one of the things you should keep track of

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and you get a little bit of the sense of it here already

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is like Alex's vibe really kind of boils down to like, please

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don't nuke me.

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Specifically he's like I am one of the good Americans and

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I speak for many other good Americans.

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Please don't nuke me.

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It does feel like he's negotiating a treaty behind America's

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back.

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Yeah, he's violating the Logan Act.

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So this guy when he was in Alabama loved Rush Limbaugh and

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so he brings that up 20 plus years ago and at this time.

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I love listening to Rush Limbaugh show.

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Unfortunately, he passed away.

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But you remind me the best years of Rush Limbaugh with your

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tempo with your energy Rush Limbaugh and with your willingness

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to tell the truth Rush Limbaugh number five and unfortunately

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it looks like if 20 years ago Rush Limbaugh was this star

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nowadays.

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They're so scared of you being this star that they're trying

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to change whatever is around you.

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But how comes what happened with States you're saying that

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your country has been hijacked.

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But how come that with great people of the United States you

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allowed your country to be hijacked how come that people

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that are good Christians that the hard-working people great

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nation.

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How come that people like blinking Joe Biden those guys

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they're not Patriots.

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They don't love American Republic.

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It looks like they're much more interested in putting whatever

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taxpayer dollars they can for the benefit of the Ukraine to

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launder money through the Ukraine back to the families,

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but they're not Patriots of the United States.

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What's ever happening in Europe is not for the interest of

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the United States and there's only one person who is trying

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to tell that Trump and now they're killing Trump.

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They're just crucifying Trump.

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What happened with your country?

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How did you allow them to hijack your country?

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That's a great question.

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It was guilt America's not perfect.

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Guys you hear me now this problem.

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I cannot hear Alex.

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So this is where some of it really falls apart and this is

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where some of the yelling and Russian happens.

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Yeah, and so that's cut out this version that we have here.

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Disappointing.

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Yeah.

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Alex is really giving this guy a wide berth letting him talk.

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He's been being very respectful.

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This is that that's the Russian accent that I remember for

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my child, you know, like that is that is somebody who's

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who's captured, you know, and they're getting interrogated

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and then the then the guy who's going in there to kind of

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brainwash him shows up.

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That's totally it that's perfect in movies for sure.

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But in real life, I find his accent pretty calming.

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No, I enjoy it.

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Yeah, I know again.

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That's what I'm saying.

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You know making fun of the limbo like it's it's you know,

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it's a little bit of low-hanging fruit but but overall

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I do find his voice pleasant.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Yeah, you're tortured by the other guy, but this guy comes

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in and he's like this isn't for you not you're being tortured

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because they're treating you like a real Patriot not the

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government, you know, like that's I see I see I missed the

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point you were making that now love it.

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So the audio problem resolves and Alex gets back to his

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idea about guilt.

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Ah guys, you hear me now this problem.

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I cannot hear Alex.

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Yeah, finally.

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Yeah, I have something I can hear you.

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You hear me?

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Excellent.

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Yeah nowadays.

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Yeah, probably say was trying to do something the haha not

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to allow us to continue our conversation, but we succeeded

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so go ahead.

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Congrats.

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That's fun.

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Well, I'm not trying to be dramatic, but I literally got

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followed from my house to here.

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I'll be followed home tonight.

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I know it's the morning in Russia.

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This is your security and I get we all laugh about it.

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I do too, but this is very serious.

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Well, what happened is Americans have big hearts.

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And so by big corporate investment in media and in universities

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and in culture, we were taught we were bad.

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And then we were taken over by globalist woke leftist transgenderism

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LGBTQP Satan brainwashing and we've been under massive bullying

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massive censorship massive control that's been going on for

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decades the woke bullies.

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So I'm gonna be totally clear about this Alex's answer to

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that question of what happened to make the United States bad

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is civil rights.

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He can dress it up in whatever grandiose bullshit language

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he wants.

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But his answer is that the US is worse because civil rights

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organizations bullied straight white Christian men into giving

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up their exclusive grasp on power.

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That's what he's saying.

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Yeah, the part about guilt is him saying that history shouldn't

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be taught or if it is things like slavery should be taught

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as a positive or neutral thing.

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If you're going to teach about the history of slavery in

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America, the thesis of your lesson needs to be that other

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people had slaves too.

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So we were really wrong to do it.

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This is Alex's ideology.

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Yeah, he comes from a fucking nutbag John Birch Society

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family where he was inundated with books written by

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anti-communist weirdos that attacked civil rights by presenting

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the idea of black people being able to eat at the same

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restaurant as white people as a critical step in turning

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the US into a godless communist hellhole.

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Yeah, and Alex has never grown up.

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He's never seriously examined those beliefs because why the

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fuck would he he got on public access TV pretty young and

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really quickly his dad paid for him to get a radio show after

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that he got discovered by a shady scammy gold salesman who

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used Alex's the primary advertisement for his precious metal

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sales that whole time he had success comfort and relative

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celebrity.

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So there's literally no reason to change anything interrogating

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your beliefs to see if they're actually correct is a liability

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for someone like Alex you're going to lose money going down

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that road.

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Yeah by the time the gold sales sugar daddy situation went

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away.

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Alex was already 41 years old and he had his next big thing

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in the supplements. It was already in motion.

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There's never been a point in his life where he's had any

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reason to doubt himself and the reality that doubting himself

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and his ideas that could cost him millions of dollars.

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No one needs someone with this particular skill set of lying

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very loudly for a long period of time in any other media

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space there is like the left doesn't need it the other the

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mainstream media doesn't need it.

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The only people that caters to is exactly his audience without

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this. He's essentially unemployable and he knows that so

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I keep your head down and follow the path that looks lucrative

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and that's what he's done.

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He's never had to you know, yeah, this is exactly the opposite

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of what I mean, but I just remembered that quote from Blade

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Trinity.

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He was born perfect and just like a great white shark.

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He's never had to evolve.

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Right, right.

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I recall Dracula Dracula.

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Yeah, Alex is like that but the opposite I was no I'm thinking

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this because I am apologize for bringing up tennis Carlos

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Alcaraz is a you know, like when you watch Djokovic or

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Federer those guys play against the next generation you see

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that they are not having fun because they've been beaten

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over and over and over and over again, you know, they've

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just been beaten so much right but Carlos grew up and he's

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the bet he was the best at tennis and then he just kept

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being the best at tennis and now he's the best at tennis.

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He's so happy.

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He's smiling all the time.

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You know, he's never faced the reality of like just constant

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shit being poured upon you and though that may come in years.

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Yeah, and Alex has got something of that like if you create

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a lane for this person and everything kind of just hits

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right at the right time and you've never really had existential

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challenge outside of things that you've done to yourself

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basically.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, you brought up next generation.

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So I want to apologize for forgetting about Geordie LaForge

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when we were talking about Star Trek.

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Yeah, and also you blew it and I went along with you Whoopi

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was not in Deep Space Nine.

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She was in The Next Generation.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Oh, man.

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I am I am terrible.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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So Alex is ashamed of America.

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Yeah weird.

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Yeah, so I'm very ashamed that we've gotten to this point

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and that's why whether it's British TV or Japanese TV or

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Russian television.

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I go on to explain.

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This is not the real American.

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You know, you talk about how have I survived they saw me

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in 2016.

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It was it was it was it was 40 million viewers so many viewers

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so important to let us so that big exhale is reflective of

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the tech problems that have been cut out of this and for

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a period of time.

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He's looking at like his phone and a tablet because he then

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yells, why do I have to watch our show on the stream to

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hear Alex and he looks very distracted.

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So that's that's a reason to go watch that video of this

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is an enjoyable experience and man it starts a little slow

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with some feeling out.

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Yeah, when this breaks open it gets nuts.

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Okay, and I really think that this guy is trying to lure

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Alex to come to Russia great.

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It's time.

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It's the only way to keep his money.

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I think for nefarious purposes.

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Well, there's that too.

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So like I said, there's tech issues and they kind of loom

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in the background of a lot of this but I love Tucker Carlson

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because now a hundred million viewers per show versus five

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million on Fox.

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So even though they're trying to destroy me I can take major

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satisfaction that that RFK jr. and Russell Brand and Joe

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Rogan and there's a major awakening happening.

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Sorry boss, sometimes I have to raise hell, you know, it's

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one of my things.

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My crew's good too, but I get mad at them.

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Hey, you're very, go ahead.

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Go ahead and softly trying to fix things and usually that

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works. Usually that works.

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No, my crew's the same, they're laughing.

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No, but it's good that you're translating.

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It's hard to do.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, so there is a like there was a bit of yelling this cut

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out there, but like there was a part of me when I was watching

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this like Alex is so giddy when he's yelling at the crew and

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it's like obviously, I know that Alex is somebody who likes

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to abuse underlings and he exerts power in an abusive fashion.

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Yeah, there's a small part of me that wonders if the tech

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problems were fake and it was a way of endearing himself to

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Alex. Alex sees himself in this breakdown that this guy is

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having obviously sure and it's deeply unprofessional the

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way he's acting in the same way.

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It's deeply unprofessional when Alex screams at his employees.

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Well, you'd have to storm off though.

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Yeah, I'll give him that.

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Well, you would have to watch more of his show.

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He might know.

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I mean he might yeah, he might do this all the time or he

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might not.

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Oh, I thought you meant he the Russian guy would have to

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watch Alex's show to know that he does this a lot right now

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you would yeah, he might watch Alex's show but in order for

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you to know what he was doing understand you would have to

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watch more of his show if you understand that Alex is a

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narcissist sure he would love to see himself in a mirror,

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you know, like he would love to see himself in you.

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Yeah, and if you behave in ways that are similar to him,

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he'll be like this guy's great.

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Yeah, I mean, but I don't that's a little bit conspiratorial

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and paranoid of me.

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It was just a thought that crossed my mind as I was watching

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this sure.

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I understand but we're talking about the land of psyops my

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man. That's how it goes.

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Maybe they had a team of psychologists working on Alex

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being like, how do we get this guy?

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This is a dude who hosted a show talked about Putin's achievements

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once a week is not somebody who has like a straight-up career,

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you know, so anyway, there's some more tech problems of a

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different variety.

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Well Alex, it's you know, basically it's amazing.

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I used to live in the United States of America and that time

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that was the most free country in the world where people

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respected freedom of speech and this time there were a whole

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bunch of good families good Christians.

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They every Sunday they were going to church and they believed

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that God loves America and they believe that their job is

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to bring good to the to the world and freedom to people 30

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years later in the United States of America.

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You cannot say shit.

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If you say something that you believe in you have a problem

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with that if you do something that they don't like they're

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going to kill you. They're going to destroy you.

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They're going to destroy your reputation.

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They will do whatever they can to silent you and now you

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have Joe them Biden the guy who is crooked the guy whose

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family is benefiting from the blood in Europe.

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That's man.

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That's amazing.

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I really feel sorry for you.

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And now they want us to fight one another for Nazis and

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those funny guys with red shirts.

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Who the hell are they?

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Ukrainian supporters and make this is fascinating.

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This is marching on the streets of United States of America.

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Yikes.

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Is this a pirate signal like what is happening?

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I don't know.

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They are they in the matrix trying to hack into the feed

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at every second when he said like Putin is profiting from

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the blood in Ukraine and then the music started again.

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I thought it was like a morning zoo sound.

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I thought the same thing.

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Yeah.

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No, I was like, oh, is this like a fun thing?

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And then it just keeps getting more terrible.

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This is yeah, I was watching this.

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I'm like, hmm should have cut out more.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's a yeah sloppy.

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Okay.

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So Alex is just like so like endearing himself and being

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like, oh, I know Russia is so great.

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Yeah, so great.

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You guys only had oligarchs for a few years.

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Everything is so good.

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Totally fine.

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So cool.

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You kick the global stuff.

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You definitely don't have oligarchs now.

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Definitely don't have a situation is desperate.

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It is I've held on because I have millions of supporters,

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but it's absolutely hell.

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They have just I don't get into it.

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But just imagine it's been hellish and it's only God's kept

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me alive, but things are coming to a head.

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That's why I'm here telling the Russian people.

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We know you're not expansionist.

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We know you're not attacking us.

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The average American poll show any per show don't want war

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with you and we are we are sorry.

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Our country's been hijacked and it's being used as a battering

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ram and we know Russia is not perfect either.

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I'm not I've never been to Russia.

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No one is perfect.

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No one's perfect man.

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So yeah, they're not expansionist except for the expanding

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and encroaching on their neighbors.

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So there's that they're not attacking us which I guess is

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fine and then 80% of people might not want war but that

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is not reflective of 80% of the population supporting Russia's

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actions. Yeah, you know the way these people these two are

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talking about that, you know, and it's it's kind of the way

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we all talk about it and it's infecting us in a really terrible

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way of just like but Russia's not expansionist Putin is stealing

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more shit.

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Like do you know what?

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I mean like nobody who lives there is like man.

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I want Keve for my own because I live in Moscow we make that

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point a lot and I can't that there is that differentiation

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between the the country and the government.

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They don't want that.

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Well don't Alex and and this guy do not want the differentiation

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think they do sort of I think they kind of do because Alex

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is saying like our government isn't like taken over by the

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globalist.

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So America the government evil America the people good Russia

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the people good Putin the government good.

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Well, that's kind of the the the lineup right, right.

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I understand.

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I understand.

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I'm just I'm just frustrated by this idea because it is so

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much like oh what's wrong with the American people and what's

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wrong with all this stuff and it's like man most of us almost

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all of us are just fucking getting through the day.

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We're just trying these people are starting Wars and shit.

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I didn't nobody did right, but you're not around but at least

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you're not like Alex and like constantly obsessing about

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nuclear war and how maybe it's a good thing totally.

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I mean it is it is just so insane that we're stuck in this

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concept of like a oh the United States like most of us hate

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everything about this all of this.

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Yeah, or at least desire a better way.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, this is absurd.

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So if you hate that that stuff wait for this next.

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Oh boy.

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This is this Russian guy this Vladimir character not a fan

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of gay people.

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Ah, it's not so we're not Pro Russia.

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We're not Pro America or Pro God and we're pro and I love

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that.

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I love that.

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But for that I have to believe in God.

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They don't believe in God.

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How can you believe in God and be for lgbtq plus minus divide

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on something lgbt is shit.

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It has nothing to do with God, but now that they're saying

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that they knew God is pervert.

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That's not what we believe in.

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Well, that's it exactly.

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Whoa, so that's that's a bit that's a bit harsh little blunt

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little gross.

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Yeah, so lgbtq is pervert and then Alex chimes in from the

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back pedophile.

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Yeah.

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I mean it is illegal in Russia.

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Well, no, I mean, yeah fine.

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I mean, I mean, what did you think he was going to think

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right? You know, like I'm offended by what he's saying but

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it's not like I was I'm surprised.

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No.

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No, I guess it's more the like like bluntness of it and then

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Alex is like hell.

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Yeah, man.

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Yeah, I guess it's not really surprising for Alex to have

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that position either except for that.

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It's just like there's such an erosion of his pretending to

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be okay with gay people.

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Yeah, you know and then you know, yeah, the reason is just

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sad, you know, it's like the reason that it's so awful is

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because it's a portent of you know, how fake the support is

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of any variety of civil rights.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, like if the ayatollah is like a fucking we kill gay

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people here you go.

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Yeah, you guys do that.

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That's all you you really shouldn't you'd I'd rather you

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didn't yeah, but yeah, then if the ayatollah had a radio

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host you would expect those positions to be mirrored exactly.

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So Alex, he just admires Putin.

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He's a good dude.

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He kicked out the globalists and that's why I'm saying this

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is not me.

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This is not America.

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We are hijacked and I know Russia has the Soros foundations.

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You're under the exact same attack.

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You've just been better at fighting it off.

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And so a lot of Americans admire Russia and admire you and

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admire Putin because you've been able to fight this off and

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and so that's where we are and I know they'll come at me

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for this.

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So be it because that's just the way it is.

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But you know, I just hope we can stop nuclear war and I

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hope that we can come together and promote a global freedom

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free market Christian society and then you've got beautiful

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resources.

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We've got amazing resources.

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I mean, it's so smart for us to work together exactly have

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a big space and work together a beautiful job.

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Yeah, it's smarter for neither of us to exist.

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Hey, you know what?

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Why don't we fuck these globalists?

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Let's have a global Christian society.

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I mean, yeah that we don't want to live under the same one

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world government.

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We want to live under the same one world theocratic government

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that is the prefers are so exactly a little bit little bit

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obvious there.

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Yeah, so look man.

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We got when you think of popular shows sure the most popular

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shows Johnny Carson.

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No, although at a time.

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Yeah Russell Brand what Tucker?

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Oh, okay.

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So we're doing Alex we're doing that.

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Okay.

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No, I would I would suggest that Alex should really check

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into some of the like new hot folks on tik-tok and YouTube

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and see how their numbers are so much bigger than any of

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these other fucking political weirdos.

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Yeah, cuz like you see some of these people's like, oh my

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God hundred million views on what the fuck is going who

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is this?

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Oh, no, it's it is always fun.

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Whenever I find out that there's an entire different species

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of human living in a completely different world.

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Yeah, and I'm like what there's trillions of you out there.

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It's like someone in a tri-corner hat blowing on a piece

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of bologna dangling in front of their face and it's like

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200 million views.

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All right.

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Okay, I don't get it.

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That's what the people do these days.

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They left me behind and I didn't want to come with them.

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Yeah, that's the reality.

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I would say that like the vast majority of just various

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true crime channels on YouTube have more views than Alex.

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But anyway, all the popular shows they love Russia.

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I want Russians to know the most popular shows as I said,

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not just mine all the popular shows are anti-war and are

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pro freedom.

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They're pro America.

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They're pro Russia.

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They're pro human and I want you to know that the American

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people do not want this but our political class is losing

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they're dying.

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They're falling apart and they admit their plan is not just

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a new COVID lockdown.

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Their plan is not just imploded borders.

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Their plan is accelerated war with Russia.

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So I am very pissed off sure and my children.

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I got four of them don't deserve to die and if the Russians

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were doing something to me, I'd be ready to go to war sure,

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but like I look like Ukraine.

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I thought yeah, you got it.

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I mean the Russians are not I've studied the geopolitics.

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They accuse me of being a Russian agent.

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I've never been to Russia.

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I have nothing to do with Russia.

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I think Alex just compared Russia to Jesus is that I find

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no fault.

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Yeah, and I think he was quoting Pontius Pilate.

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Well, you know, we've got a lot of Bible today might as well

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get that one in there too.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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So look, I mean obviously we don't want nukes and stuff

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whatever this is trite, but like okay, so there's a transactional

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relationship that's going on here despite whatever is actually

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being said and the clunky conversation that's being had sure

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and the transaction is Alex comes on and provides the image

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that America loves Russia and that like Russia is great.

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They're not expansionist and everybody knows it right the

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whole world and then this guy fucking just blows smoke up

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Alex's ass.

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Yeah, and treats him like he is the greatest American ever

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essentially the exact same transaction that went on in the

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2016 interview with Alexander Dugan.

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Yeah, it's the same.

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It's a honeypot and here's the payoff for Alex.

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I'm an agent of life an agent of freedom an agent shield

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having a sure and I will not let these globalist that have

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hijacked our country.

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They're the enemy point at Russia and say oh they did this

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Russia didn't open our border Russia didn't ship in fentanyl

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Russia doesn't engage in pedophilia Russia isn't pushing

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World War 3 Russia isn't promoting drag queen pedophile

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time. And so all I'm saying is I don't know about the Russians

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but the Russians didn't do this the globalist that hijacked

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my country did it and I'm not going to go to nuclear war

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with the Russians so they can stay in power.

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It's real simple.

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Okay, there is voice of American people Alex Jones there

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is voice of American people.

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He's the voice of the American people man.

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It's just so easy.

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It is it's just so easy.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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I mean, it's just it's pretty transparent when you're watching

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it. Yeah, and I you get the sense that both of them kind

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of know it to almost or if not consciously he knows the Russian

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dude knows for sure 100% but Alex, you know, it's an open

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question of how aware he is of the game.

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He's involved in at the moment.

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It is I think there's I think there's more there's plenty

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of column A and column B, you know, like I know you're flattering

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me. You know what?

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I like getting flattered.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's like those people who flirt incessantly and never

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intend to yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah fuck is wrong with you.

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It's weird.

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Stop it.

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It's just fun.

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No, no, stop it.

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I live your life.

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It's fine, but I'm confused by it.

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That's all fair enough.

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Anyway this now that the payoff has come and he has declared

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the voice of the American people.

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It's time to extend an invitation.

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All right, and I'm strong enough by the grace of God and

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my supporters to be holding up like a lighthouse in a storm,

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but I don't plan I'll be here tomorrow.

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I mean they are coming down on us right now.

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It's like they're coming down on you.

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And so God help us, you know, I feel like nowadays Russia

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is becoming the arch the noise arch like the the only place

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where people like you can go not because they love Russia,

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but because it's probably the last safe heaven where people

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with conservative views people that believe in God can live

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freely. Because it's amazing what they've done with this

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world. They're basically trying to ruin human race as such.

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They're trying to say man that he's no longer a man woman

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that she's no longer a woman transgender.

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What the fuck is transgender?

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How's it the word be transgender and how they can have kids

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if they don't want to have kids.

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They don't want to assault.

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It's an assault.

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It's an assault on our basic humanity and you're right say

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whatever you want about the Russians.

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I tried to study the anthropology the sociology at least

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the Russians aren't rolling over to this.

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So you have him introducing this premise that you know,

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hey Russia is the only place where someone like you can live

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freely. I and so this has been introduced into the conversation

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Alex is not necessarily bit or anything, but he's you know,

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it's there is that now I truly believe that I should get

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like a free kick of some sort just because like there's a

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penalty that has to be incurred because the most jingoistic

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people that I grew up with are now only welcome in Russia.

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I find it's just unacceptable.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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It's like five yards.

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I get a free kick something.

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Well Alex's entire worldview from childhood has been built

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on this anti-communist extremism.

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No, and I mean China obviously is a factor in that too.

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But Soviet Union Russia were totally the other main target.

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Yeah of that and yeah now no not so much.

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I just I just it's frustrating.

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I feel like we everybody should stop like, you know, like

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when a penalty happens.

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There's a stoppage of play, right?

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I feel like we should all stop playing until we figure this

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all out everybody cool it the most jingoistic people now think

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they're okay in Russia.

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We got to figure something out.

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Something's up here.

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Something's up.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so these guys are real homophobic real transphobic

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real shitheads.

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Yeah, but you got to admit they're hitting it off.

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Maybe that's a maybe those things are related.

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They're enjoying themselves.

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If this isn't the game and that's why our president is saying

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sorry guys, but they won't be gay marriages in Russia.

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We don't care what you do in your bedroom, but we know what

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family's you care a little father and mother lot not parent

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number one and parent number two.

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We won't allow that that's not in our culture.

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You can do whatever you want with your culture, but that's

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not our culture.

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What and that's what I know about America.

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I remember what America you tell you this we heard and we

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heard 10 years ago.

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Just give us gay marriage and I'm the same way.

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I'm like whatever you do.

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I don't hate you and then it's like give us your children.

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Let us chop your children's testicles off.

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Let us puberty block them.

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I'm telling you.

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It's a devil cult.

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It's it's absolutely my sick.

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It's absolutely that's not you're absolutely right.

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That's not about politics.

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That's about the existence of Humanity as such.

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That's not the war between Russia and America.

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It's the war between God and Saturday.

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I want to say this I want to say this I want to say this stuff.

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I'm not an I'm an American cool.

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I don't want nuclear war and I love Russia.

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I love Japan.

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I love China.

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I love Mexico.

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I love everybody but I am a human first before God and I

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cannot go against humanity in the family and that's why I

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have to come out of one world.

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I'm embarrassed.

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I have to admit my country's captured and they're persecuting

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us for fighting them.

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You don't know how long we can hold on.

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It's really bad.

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That's why I'm really concerned because this is real people

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need to know you already have people dying in this war just

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understand it's intense.

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This is not a game.

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This is just something on television.

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It is literally on television.

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Alex is two-for-two in tearing up with interviews with Russian

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propagandists calling him the voice of American people.

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Oh my God, what a dork.

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So look these guys suck.

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I mean, there's no other word for what that just happened

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just happened is shit.

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But these are things that we've heard before too.

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Yeah, it's just this this kind of conversation is far more

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frequent the idea that all rights being afforded to gay

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couples is what it is a path and it's chipping away towards

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Satanism right and if I acknowledge if I acknowledge us

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as both human then my entire worldview falls apart.

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So it's either it's either essentially I kill you or I change

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and I am such a piece of shit.

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I'm going to kill you instead of go.

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It's fine.

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And these are two people who represent slightly different

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stages down that path towards being like a fine kill.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah 100% and that's very very scary as a conversation to

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be had in public.

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Yep, but this guy really wants Alex to come to Russia.

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Yeah, I just feel like again, I mean, I feel like we understand

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free speech but like the telling another human being that

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they're not a human being is the beginning of the all of

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our problem, you know, like there's something about that.

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Maybe not all of our problems, but a whole lot of a whole

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fuck ton of them is begins whenever it's like yes, I recognize

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myself as human and you not you know, and that is that begins

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with words true and there's something that can be done about

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that that it isn't just like I think I let him call anybody

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whatever the fuck they want.

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I think I think what you're saying and I somewhat agree is

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we need a more mature understanding of speech.

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Yeah, maybe maybe not necessarily like laws that govern

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what you can and can't say.

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Yeah, but a very serious reexamination as people what we

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are fine with.

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Yeah, and what should make you immediately like not to be

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taken seriously.

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Yeah, like what marks people as like now you're a shithead.

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Yeah, no that concept, you know that that idea of like we

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need to completely abolish the concept of sticks and stones

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may break my bones, but words will never because that or

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we need to add like a shit ton of like but words can set

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into motion a series of events so large and so uncontrollable

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that it affects not just you but everyone around you the

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problem is that the utility of sticks and stones may break

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my bones is to make children feel better exactly and that

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children are not mature enough to understand the addendum

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that you add it and then they grow up and they don't become

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adults.

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They just continue to say sticks and stones.

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Yeah, they say it in presidential debates.

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Well, they're children.

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That's it, but Alex probably needs to go to Russia.

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Yeah, and what they do is because I've never been to Russia.

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I've read books about Russia red history looks amazing.

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I want to go there some time, but I'm not a Russa file.

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I'm not a Russa Pope, but it's so insulting the recent for

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eight years since Trump was running and then one seven years

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ago or six years ago to literally be told I'm commanded by

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the Russians and I'm given orders by the Russians.

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But here I am.

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I'm like, well, okay if I'm supposedly run by these people

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I better go ahead and find out who they are.

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No, I'm run by honor and truth and justice and saving my

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country, but I do now actually I'll be honest with you.

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I want to go to Russia.

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I want to meet the Russians.

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I want to find out why that my enemies hate them so much.

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I want to find out if my studio is your studio anytime.

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My house is your house.

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If you want to come to Russia with all your family be my

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guest you can stay as long as you want whatever you want.

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You'll have it.

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But you understand you I appreciate that you understand

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my point.

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I'm not like I'm just an American and I'm like promoting

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not having control open borders promoting pedophilia promoting

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freedom and I'm told I'm run by Russians.

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Will you start wondering who is this that runs me you start

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like wondering who are so I'm asking why do they hate me

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and hate you so much because we believe in God exactly exactly

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exactly.

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This guy's got to be thinking Alex is a fucking I mean so

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stupid.

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He's got to be thinking that Alex is the dumbest person

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he's ever talked to I would assume so like that's crazy.

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All right, if Alex goes to Russia, the documentary we make

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call it citizen 14 words.

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Okay.

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Yeah, that's all right.

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Um, the the the guy who's a sort of you know state connected

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media figure seems like it who's saying you can come live

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at my house for as long as you want whatever you want.

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You will have it.

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Yeah, my studio is your studio.

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That's the kind of thing that Alex would find suspicious

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coming from let's say somebody who works for the Rockefellers

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or that is a comically luring kind of offer.

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Bananas.

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Yeah, truly to be a person who is constantly claiming that

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there's a secret reason for everything to then take this

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a man who sounds like the movie villains from your childhood

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and just be like man straight shooter you those movies weren't

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real.

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I know they were I know they weren't real Alex somehow

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doesn't know they weren't real and is still this guy now to

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be clear with the thing that I'm suggesting or what I am

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looking at this interview as yeah, I don't necessarily think

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like there's some kind of a state plan to flip Alex or something

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like that, but I think that this guy is savvy enough to understand

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that there is a lot of value in Alex disseminating the talking

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points that he disseminates on behalf of Moscow Russia Putin

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the weekly Putin praise show.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, you know, yeah, that's pretty obvious.

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Yep.

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Anyway Trump very suspect.

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I don't I don't even know how to tell you about this clip,

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but I will say that it involves Alex saying that Trump wants

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to make babies with Russia.

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Okay, which is strange that is strange, but okay.

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They are coming after him they're coming after me they're

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coming after Trump because Trump let's talk about Trump.

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I know Trump.

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Well Trump is a very transactional person which is cool.

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So he looks at Russia three times the size of the US the

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most wealthy country in the world resource wise and he sees

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a big beautiful thing and he's like I'm going to deal with

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these people like when he went to talk to North Korean leader.

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He said you could put beach houses here and hotels and casinos

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and I mean, he just looks at something transactional and

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says this is a big giant rich country.

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That's a woman.

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I mean how Trump operates he sees Russia as a gorgeous

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beautiful woman.

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He wants to be with he's like we're not going to fight these

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people.

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Let's get it business and the CIA goes no no, no, no, you're

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not getting in business with her.

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We're going to kill her and eat her and so there Trump wants

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to have children with Russia right globalist want to eat

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Russia and they want to eat me right wanna eat me, right?

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Okay.

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Yeah Trump wants to fuck st.

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Petersburg or something.

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Right?

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I mean, yeah, I suppose I suppose then we then we're just

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getting into the anatomy of cities meetings in Russia.

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What what Civic unit do you think what is the smallest Civic

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unit that is capable of gestation?

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Hamlet get pregnant, you know, I think I think a small unit

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is what it takes to get gestation.

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No, man.

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I think you need to be damn it.

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What's his name?

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The big unit Randy Randy Johnson Johnson.

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Yeah, ready Johnson with the most generic last name couldn't

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come up with Johnson.

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Yeah, that's probably like eight or nine on the most common

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last names.

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That's that clip though.

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I mean, there's a lot of nonsense in there like for pound

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for pound pretty solid a lot of Trump wants to fuck Russia

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wants to make babies with it, right?

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He saw Korea North Korea is being like a lot of places to

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exploit here make a hotel over there.

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Yeah, that one's crazy.

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That one's crazy.

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But I think here's what it is that I'm going to pitch I'm

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going to pitch to you.

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That's that is the amplifier out of nowhere.

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We're eating people.

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Mm-hmm.

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You don't have samples.

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Yeah, once once we added eating people now everything else

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in that clip is also amplified because sure he wants to make

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babies with Russia, but maybe people want to eat those babies

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and we can't trust Trump completely.

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No, that's a vaccine and I think I think we really have to

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take a little moment to reflect on how eating someone is the

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opposite of making a baby with them because it's addition

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versus subtraction, you know, it is perhaps the polar opposite

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of making a baby with somebody is eating them because if you

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kill someone their body is still there if you eat them their

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body it goes from one to zero.

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Right and not just that but if you make a baby with someone

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they expel it from them.

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Whereas you are ingesting the human.

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We have accidentally stumbled onto something.

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I don't know why that this turns out to be the the poles

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that we discover, you know, it's probably because this episode

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is stupid.

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So we have one last clip here and it's the it's a little

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bit of course the dismount Alex, of course once again invokes

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Tucker and has some parting words for this guy who is clearly

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playing some games with him because we're men.

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Because we're men and because we're fathers and because

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we're sons and because we understand that there is high

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responsibility than being loyal to those motherfuckers and

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that is the responsibility is with God.

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Right.

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Well, that's right.

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And that's why I came on your show and threw down the gauntlet.

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They're going to come after me so hard after this.

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Like you said Tucker Carlson's a dead man walking.

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I talked to him two days ago.

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He knows it.

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He's going all in.

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So you're all in for Humanity and for Humanity and fatherhood

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and motherhood and we just got to say hey, listen globalist.

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We're calling your bluff man.

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Hey you globalist.

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They blow my ass away next week or indict me next week.

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They're trying it'll make us bigger because I'm not going

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to cry when they do it, but we got to be ready to do it

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because this is it folks everything you are everything you

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ever were if you don't stand up now, you're done done.

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Nice the perfect night in shining armor Alex Jones fighting

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for God my God and for what he believes in Alex.

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It was a pleasure and I'm on it.

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Thank you can find us in the remote inside info Wars.com.

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Oh, yeah, man a shot like the perfect night and shining

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armor fighting for what he believes.

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It was an honor Alex anybody who seriously and sincerely

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says it was an honor Alex is an idiot or is fucking with

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him. There is nobody who would be honored to talk to that

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ding-dong, you know that this one really hammers home what

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Sophie was talking about where they want you to think they're

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telling you the truth, you know, like that was such a everything

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about that bullshit.

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You don't believe you're doing this for God.

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Why am I stopping and being like why would you believe you're

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doing this for God?

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No, you don't believe that it's strange credulity to even

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imagine that between the two of them.

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They believe what the other is saying, you know, it's just

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it's a fascinating exercise in deceit and lying and no trust.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean because there's there's the game of Alex lying

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to him and believing that he that he knows that Alex is playing

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a character right and then there's him lying to Alex, but

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he knows that Alex doesn't know what he's doing or and then

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there's the shared reality that the two of them are trying

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to create out of both of these falsehoods.

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I think there's a possibility that he thinks that Alex might

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be aware of a little but definitely not the full scope.

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Sure.

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There's like there's like there's one full awareness and

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one like one side has like Alex knows he's full of shit right

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the other guy knows he's full of shit.

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I'm gonna say this.

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Yeah, I'm gonna say this I believe and I'm going to base

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this on purely the feeling I have right now.

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Okay.

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I believe that there is a certain tone of voice that you

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can detect when you're getting one over on someone and you

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know that last clip it's there's a tone there's a sound I

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think there's you know, I think I think there's a frequency

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that no matter what if you're getting one over on someone

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you make that sound.

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And when you when you call Alex fucking Jones a perfect

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knight in shining armor.

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Oh my god, you're getting one over on somebody.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's that's not the act of a legit person.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So there is a certain irony Jordan we should point out.

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I don't know if our voices are going to sound a little bit

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different but we were mocking the tech difficulties that

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they had this episode and then in the middle of it our recorder

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stopped working.

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Yeah, that was it was bonkers.

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So they got played a joke on us and I appreciate it.

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Well play and well play the funny, you know for me, I we

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were recording during the US Open and it was like the moment

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we were we were so close to the dismount.

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Nope.

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I was trying so hard to to like call it out and let you

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get some of that some of the US Open in and now hey, it

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is way back for making fun of their tech issues.

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I think I think it probably is we had hubris hubris as Alex

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would pronounce it.

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I will say that though we deserve it.

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We distinguish ourselves by not screaming at someone for

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something the fuck right, right.

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Anyway, Jordan, we will be back for another episode shortly,

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but until then we have a website indeed.

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We do it's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep.

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We are on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledge underscore fight and I'm on Instagram at

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library underscore fight and posting fun pictures of our

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studios if you want to see what the studio looks like all

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the wall art and what have you and every now and again,

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maybe some seltzer that I'm drinking.

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That's over there.

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Are you you fucking around Instagram to aren't you?

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Oh, I am I'm on the I'm posting do you know what I'm doing

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knowledge underscore fight and I have turned it into all

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pet unlikely animal friendships.

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I didn't realize have that because I got rid of the account.

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I had that I had that handle totally.

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No, no, you didn't get rid of it.

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I we were just using it together and then you stopped using

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it when you made library underscore fight.

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So I did yeah, I mean at any point in time you could just

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log into the other account and erase all these animal friendships

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don't even know the password.

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I swear to you.

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Well, check that out for animal friendship.

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Anyway, we'll be back.

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But until then I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX Clark.

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Ah, damn it.

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I was trying to work that into a Mario level, but I went

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to I went to different level directions.

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I couldn't commit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, and now here comes the sex robots.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a person color.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.