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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a
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little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you sir.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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My bright spot is, so I've lived in the same apartment here for a bit.
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That's true.
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And it's longer than I've lived in most apartments in my life.
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That's definitely true.
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And I just re-signed the lease for another year and so one of the things that I'm doing
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to sort of keep things fresh is moving things around.
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It's a great way to move without actually moving.
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Exactly.
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Re-organizing some of the room in this apartment and it's having the desired effect.
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It's freshening things up.
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Yeah.
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I feel, I don't know.
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Maybe I'm telling myself that, I'm not sure.
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Listen, don't be mad when you're trying to convince yourself of something that it would
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be good if you believed in the first place.
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I think I believe it.
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Yeah, see?
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So there you go.
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You do.
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It's true.
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Don't worry about it.
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I think I feel like it's-
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You're not hurting anybody.
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Right.
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All right, it's a whole new place.
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Anyway, what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot, Dan, is, have I ever told, do you know about the band Beirut?
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So, there's a song on the album No No No, which I haven't listened to in forever and
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I found again the other day.
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It's called Gibraltar.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Well, excellent.
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It's called Gibraltar and it has this great upbeat to it.
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It's just got this fantastic one and two and three and four kind of thing.
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And then it has three huge downbeats.
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That's the repetition.
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And when you walk to this song, everything is going fine.
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You're just walking along with the beat.
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And every time it gets to the three downbeats, all of a sudden you go, and then you lean
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your foot back and then take another step and keep walking.
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It's my favorite song to walk to because you can't stop yourself.
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You can't stop yourself.
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You take a step on the first downbeat, you kick your foot out, then you take another
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step and you keep going.
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I defy you to listen to this song while walking and not do that.
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All right, I'll take you up on that challenge.
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I'll let you know by the next episode.
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I defy the entire world.
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I honestly think I'm going to have no trouble not doing that.
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I think it's going to be really disappointing for you to learn how it's just you.
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I understand you don't have the dance in your heart.
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Okay.
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I do not.
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I realize that.
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This song is too powerful even for you.
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Okay.
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We'll see.
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Is it ska?
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Are there any horns?
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No.
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Well, I mean it's piano and there might be a little horn in there.
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Might be?
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That means there's not.
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You might be pleasantly surprised to hear a little horn in there.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Anyway, you're not going to be pleasantly surprised to hear this episode.
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I already knew that way in advance.
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Also something is a little bit weird here.
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I thought that there would be substantially more stuff to cover, quite frankly, because
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here we are in the sort of aftermath of the, of course there was a shooting in Highland
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Park, Illinois, outside Chicago on the 4th of July parade.
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And so I kind of thought for sure Alex would do a special report that night.
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Of course.
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Because he does that sort of thing.
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Right.
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It's been what?
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Four weeks since our last special report.
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Right.
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And so during that shooting he did a night of a show and so I thought that for sure he's
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going to have, it would probably have been too late by the time the news was breaking
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for it to have been on his show.
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Right.
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But that night he could have picked out some marginalized group to defame with this.
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You would think.
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You would imagine.
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But it never materialized.
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Interesting.
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And so in reality we really just have a little bit of stuff from the 4th, his show on the
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4th, and then the 5th.
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So that's what we're going to be going over today.
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Interesting.
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And I think it will be less interesting than you think.
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Well, it always is.
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It tends to be.
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It tends to be.
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So before we get into today's episode, Jordan, let's take a little moment to say hello to
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some new wonks.
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I think that's a great idea.
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So first, no pants run.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, David, and then in quotes this alias, David, David Watson Watson.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Great alias.
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Next, Jackson from Texas.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Next, my cat Zia and her natural ability to destroy everything I know and love.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Next, a your own woke play coin.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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I'm told that's an anagram.
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Okay.
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That makes sense.
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Next, the biggest cake fan.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Ah, you've gone the distance.
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It's been a while since we've made those references.
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I'm out of cakes on.
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Next, happy birthday.
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This is late.
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Happy birthday, Jeff from Dan and Jordan and Melissa.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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And Mikey B. Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you, Mikey B.
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Yeah.
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So, Jordan, before we get into today's episode, here is an out of context drop from today's
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show.
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Big boy pants time, okay?
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All right.
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All right.
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Okay.
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It's big boy pants time.
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No, I mean, honestly, this may be the first time that I have ever wholeheartedly no reservations
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agreed with Alex Jones.
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It's big boy pants time.
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I do believe it is big boy pants time.
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There's no doubt about it.
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There is no doubt.
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I've looked at the clock.
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It's big boy pants time.
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Oh, yeah.
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Half past big boy pants.
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I think we're late.
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Makes me think of that contestant on that season of Taskmaster with the mustache.
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Oh, yeah.
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I kept saying things were like, it's skin time.
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Yes.
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He is the funniest person alive.
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When he tried to fart for roughly six hours, it just doesn't get...
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I just don't understand that man.
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It's amazing.
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So we're going to start off here on the fourth.
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And something you should know about the fourth that I didn't realize until it was a little
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bit too late is that it's a best of.
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Alex just re-aired.
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It's impossible.
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He re-aired a number of his interviews, one of them with Dr. Zelenko, who is a recently
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deceased hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin COVID denialist guy.
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So yeah, he had that interview and another one, but he did do a little bit upfront that
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was fresh content.
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And so here's where he's at.
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All right.
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Big story up on infowars.com that came out on July 2nd, Saturday, but I want to cover
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it now.
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U.S. under more tyranny now than in 1776, says historian.
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The far left unfortunately has taken control of the major five megaphones of our nation,
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meaning the media, entertainment, academia, and of late science and medicine, says Douglas
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McKinnon.
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So I'm not sure exactly how you quantify relative amounts of tyranny, but I can tell you that
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certain groups of people definitely aren't living under greater tyranny today than they
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were in 1776.
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That is true.
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And they're all the people Alex thinks don't count.
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This is an article written by a guy named Douglas McKinnon, who Alex is just crediting
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as a historian.
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In reality, he's a right-wing media contributor who's also written a couple of books that
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are thrillers and whose bio makes me very suspicious.
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On his profile on Simon & Schuster's website, it says he was a quote, writer, not a speech
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writer, but a writer for both Reagan and H.W. Bush, quote and afterwards in a joint command
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at the Pentagon where he had a top-secret government clearance.
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Alright, so he wrote bedtime stories to help Reagan fall asleep, and then he had a fake
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magical power on the Pentagon.
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Well, I mean, I wonder what it is with these folks, like Steve Pacanich wrote thrillers
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too.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Writing thrillers and being a right-wing commentator is, maybe they go together.
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I think they've successfully inverted reality and fiction to the point where it makes more
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sense for them to come from a fictional background than it does a reality background, right?
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Maybe.
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Yeah.
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So he seems to love writing editorials, and you can find a load of shitty takes on his
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author page on Fox News.
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Here are some choice headlines.
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Quote, how long will I be allowed to remain a Christian?
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Three and a half weeks.
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If I have a choice.
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It was written in 2018.
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Ooh, so close.
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A while.
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Quote, why Trump's unconventional approach will help him win big in 2020.
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Oh.
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That was a good one.
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How did that go?
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Quote, milkshake attacks are not funny.
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Left needs to condemn pranks before it's too late.
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Ah, an old man.
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Noticeably absent is a column on this list about things like the Unite the Right rally
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or any performative concern about groups like the Proud Boys.
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Right, right, right.
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Milkshake attacks.
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No, it's surprising.
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I mean, you know, for a guy, he was, and I will admit this.
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He is roughly 400 years old, and he was a super slave before 1776, so yes, he does,
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he personally lives under less tyranny now than in 1776.
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Well, he also wrote an editorial a few days back, quote, real July 4th fireworks.
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Don't let the left cancel Independence Day.
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Oh my god, we were so close too.
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So there's a tone here that's fairly direct with some of his own little issues mixed in,
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like how he thinks that the U.S. needs to have a permanent base on the moon, which would
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be a flagrant violation of international space treaties.
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Yeah.
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Also in 2016, he had a vision where he claims that the story of the 40 days Jesus spent
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on Earth after his resurrection were revealed to him, which he then wrote up as a book.
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Oh, okay.
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And he seems like a cool guy.
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Yeah, that sounds about right.
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Yep.
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Oh, yeah.
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Weirdly, years back, he used to have a bunch of bylines for the Huffington Post, and his
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tone was a little bit different.
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Less grifty?
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He posted op-eds with headlines like, quote, GOP leadership should have condemned racist
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jokes, quote, why does Washington ignore the ultimate global warming threat, and quote,
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I am a conservative Christian who supports gay rights because they're a human right.
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Seems weird, almost like he had a brand adjustment.
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Anyway, he went on Fox News, and he had an interview where he was promoting his book
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called The 56, which apparently is about the, quote, 56 patriots who risked it all to sign
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the Declaration of Independence.
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He told the interviewer, quote, last July 3rd, I wasn't even thinking about writing
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a book.
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Then on the 4th of July last year, I did a little bit of a video tour on some of the
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more liberal sites, and on site after site, I saw guests on the left called not only for
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the cancellation of the 4th of July, but the cancellation of our founding fathers and the
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American flag.
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Sure.
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You can't let that shit slide, man!
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Right, right, right, right.
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Anyway, this Fox and Friends interview he did was essentially a promotional piece for
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his book, and the sensationalized nonsense like more tyranny than 76, 1776, it's more
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or less just another attempt to drive attention, and book sales and Alex is playing into that
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perfectly.
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It is kind of funny, you know, when he was at the Huffington Post, he asked a question
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that he would himself answer later, which is why does Washington ignore climate change,
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and then he starts to work for Fox News, and he realized it was a shit ton of money!
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Well, here's the thing that's kind of bizarre about that Huffington Post thing.
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He was actually not working for them.
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Sure.
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It's a, they used to have that contributor portal where you could write your own op-eds.
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You could just do whatever the fuck you wanted.
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Right.
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They were so stupid.
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And so that's what he was doing.
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Great.
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I don't know in what capacity, he didn't have like a freelancer contract, I don't think,
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with the Post.
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I think he was just like, I'll write this.
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He was just trying to find his audience, and it wasn't being a good dude.
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It wasn't having a little bit of a like, I'm not that bad.
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And listen, I'm okay with just a little, okay.
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So this next clip is our last one from the 4th, because he does, Alex does barely any
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time on the 4th.
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God, it would be so much funny if he just did a compilation of Leo Zagami interviews
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on the 4th.
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It would have been great.
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Well, because that one time that he came on with the champagne was right around the 4th,
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with his very beautiful wife, as they keep talking about.
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What are we doing with Leo Zagami on the 4th?
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I love it.
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Ah, I smuggled in his wine.
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So, this is where I really should have figured out that Alex wasn't going to be there for
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the rest of the episode, because this is pretty early in a segment, and this is usually saved
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for towards the end.
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United States is experiencing more tyranny presently than it did during the revolutionary
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period in 1776, according to an author, historian Douglas MacKinnon.
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I read some of his books.
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In a Fox and Friends interview Saturday, MacKinnon warned that radical Campos Duffy, that the
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American true history is no longer being taught in schools, that America is oppressed by more
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tyranny now than the year it was founded because of the left stranglehold on inflation, education,
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and science centers.
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We have the stranglehold on inflation?
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Because the major big banks and the power structure is funding them.
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They're not the rebels.
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They are the establishment.
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As bad as the tyranny was in 1776, in many ways, it's way worse, worse in 2022, because
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the far left, unfortunately, is taking control over the five major megaphones of our society.
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I don't need to read more of that to you.
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We'll play the clip coming up here in just a few minutes, but I explained to you, as
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I do on a routine basis, and I know you know this deep down, wars cost money, and I can't
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prosecute this war against the new world order without your support.
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So I want to ask you on this July 4th, 2022, to redouble your average to spread the word
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about the broadcast, to pray for the broadcast, to pray for our crew, to pray for our host,
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to pray for our reporters, to pray for me, and to pray for a global awakening to accelerate,
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which is already happening, and to support us financially.
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My friends, the enemy's unpopular, and they know it, and they want to try to gaslight
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us into submission, but I got to tell you-
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That sounds right.
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If the general public, and especially a lot of wealthy people and upper-middle-class nouveau
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riche that have sat on the bench, realize you're going to lose everything in this inflationary
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new world order, and you're going to be targeted under a neo-fascist global government directing
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communist policies in the grassroots, if you will simply realize that and awaken to it
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and say no to it, it's game over.
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And one of the most important ways to resist it is financially.
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So we try to sell products at infowarsdoor.com that enrich your life, your immune system.
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This is outrageous.
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I mean, that's sad.
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But I did notice, I had a feeling of it that was like, this is too early in the segment.
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He must be trying to get out of there.
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That's a wrap up.
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And I really should have not listened to those other interviews, because quite frankly, they
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were very boring.
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Not enough to-
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No.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I got to give Alex a bunch of that money, but the thing that, the only reason
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actually outside of like the cravenness of that ad pitch, the only reason I really am
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interested in that clip is because it's so bizarre how like Alex just weaves his own
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editorializing into other people's editorials and how quickly he lost interest in this story.
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I mean, I'm weirded out by some people not being like, hey man, I would prefer it if
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you just quoted me accurately, even people that he's ostensibly friends with.
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I didn't make that up.
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Don't make shit up and put it in my mouth.
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You're putting words in people's mouths.
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Yeah.
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I guess no one really cares.
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No one really cares.
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They make up everything anyways.
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And they also don't take him seriously, so I mean, it's all a push.
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I think what we have to do is make some of the Bill of Rights conditional, but in this
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kind of way.
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You never have to quarter soldiers unless you start talking shit.
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You know?
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Oh, we're under more tyranny than we were in 1776.
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Guess what?
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You quarter soldiers now.
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Now you quarter soldiers.
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Like, I'm fine with that kind of Bill of Rights.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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Would you rather quarter soldiers?
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Done.
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Alex, you keep talking about how you have a ranch on air.
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Exactly.
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No, you don't.
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You have a barracks.
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Now you have soldiers.
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That's what you've got.
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Congratulations.
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Well done.
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And now the shooting has happened, and I mean, I honestly would have expected...
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I'm just gonna put my cards out on the table.
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I would have expected this to be his top story.
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Absolutely.
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It definitely is brought up immediately, but it's not covered that much.
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That is the most worrying sign of culture I think I can conceive of.
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It really is the most worrying sign that this motherfucker did that shit, and even Alex
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Jones is like, listen, we can kind of gloss over this one, honestly.
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It does feel like there's a lot of other things he'd rather talk about, but he does deal with
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this a little bit up front.
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I can't believe I have to record that.
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This is the shooting in Thailand.
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I didn't record it.
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I just recorded it.
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Illinois on July 4th.
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I didn't record that.
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I can't believe I have to record it.
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And a man, fitting the almost identity of a man.
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Description as all the other mass shooters has now been caught by the police today after
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a chase.
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This is the world we live in, ladies and gentlemen, 53 dead people last week in a tractor trailer
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outside San Antonio locked in there to die by the human smugglers because their families
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hadn't paid the second half of the money.
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That will just go away in the wash.
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No one's going to blame 18 wheelers.
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I wasn't about guns.
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No one's going to blame tractor trailers that could be used as cages to kill people in the
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heat.
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They're used every week by the coyotes, by the human smugglers to do that.
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So this is a dumb question that Alex is posing and it's honestly one of the more pathetic
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attempts I've seen him use to try to deflect attention away from gun related tragedy, but
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I'll bite.
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So why is it that people don't want to ban tractor trailers after these migrants were
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found dead inside one, but people do want to ban guns after a mass shooting at a 4th
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of July parade?
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That is a really complex and interesting question that I think it'll take just so much time
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to answer and a lot of historical references, right?
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So I'm going to start with the basics.
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For one, the truck itself wasn't used to kill those people.
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They were trapped inside it.
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But if that's the standard for it being used as a weapon, then I guess that you'd really
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have to just ban any enclosed space.
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Yeah, prisons would go away real quick.
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Yeah.
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Anything you can be locked inside from the outside, that's got to go.
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You can easily see how this is not really sensible, but then again, there is a possibility
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that the government could pass regulation that manufacturers of these sorts of trucks
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need to require some kind of fail-safe to make sure people are able to open them from
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the inside.
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Maybe that's a conversation.
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Regardless, if you assess this as a situation where the truck is the weapon, the logic for
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banning it would end up sprawling into banning things like escape rooms and bank vaults.
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Be very bizarre, the notion that you're trying to make.
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You know, honestly, I'm warming up to the idea.
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Sure.
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Fuck escape rooms.
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I think if you have escape rooms, sooner or later someone's going to die.
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That's a safety issue.
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Secondarily, trucks like these need to be registered, so authorities were able to locate
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the people who owned the truck by a simple check of the logs.
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Any sort of effort towards furthering gun regulation is the ultimate sign of tyranny
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for Alex, so that's not something that would ever be tolerated with guns.
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Third, there aren't cases of groups of migrants dying in trucks basically every day, whereas
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it seems like with mass shootings, there are.
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Their deaths are unacceptably frequent, but most of them are not in trucks like this.
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It's the reason why it's a news story.
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This kind of leads to the larger issue, and that is that these people tragically dying
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in this trailer is not the result of someone having access to a trailer.
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It's a symptom of a bigger problem, which gets at why someone would be in that trailer
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to begin with.
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Alex loves to talk about how the border is wide open and how Biden's just letting everyone
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in, which really raises the question of why people would subject themselves to being smuggled
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in a super dangerous trailer, putting themselves at this kind of risk if they could just walk
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right into the country.
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Alex wants to make immigration more difficult, and make border enforcement more cruel, which
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will have the effect of making people more open to using desperate measures to enter
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the country, and thus makes tragedies like this one more likely to happen in the future.
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Similarly, he wants there to be no gun regulation at all, and wants everyone to be able to have
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all the guns they want, which will have the effect of making more people like this shooter
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on Monday heavily armed and able to carry out horrible acts in the future.
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The situations that Alex is trying to compare here aren't analogous at all.
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He knows that.
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He just doesn't really have much of a leg to stand on in this situation, so he's grasping
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at straws and trying to minimize this tragic, horrific situation by pointing to another
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horrific situation that his policies, or his preferred policies, tend towards increasing.
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So he can go fuck himself.
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Yeah, I mean, I just don't know, I don't know if there's any reason to talk.
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I mean, I don't know if there's any reason to have any arguments about guns, it's already,
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everybody said everything, we're just gonna watch people die, and nobody's gonna do anything
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about it.
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I get where you're coming from, but I think that that kind of apathy is something you
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gotta fight against, because I think that you could end up stopping yourself from putting
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effort into things that could have a positive outcome.
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I mean, I think problems arise whenever it is something that no individual can any longer
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do anything about.
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No individual can make a difference in this regard.
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And no matter how much you organize, what it requires is other people organizing, and
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other people organizing, and so on.
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It never, never can end.
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Yeah, I mean, I think there's something to that in the sense that communal organization
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is important, but still, individuals can make differences even within the communal needs
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for organization, in as much as like, you know, it seems sort of, I don't know, dismissive
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to be like, every dollar counts, or whatever.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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It does, realistically, if a lot of people throw in a dollar to something.
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Sure, absolutely.
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You know, and I don't know, I get where you're coming from, I get what you're saying, but
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I also think it's cynicism.
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I think I'm not being clear at all, and that's because I'm being incredibly cynical and a
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dick.
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I mean more, it is not valuable to discuss guns, it is valuable to discuss organization.
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That could be fair.
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We can, there's no point in arguing with anyone about how, oh, guns, bleh.
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No point.
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The math is done.
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You need to organize people and not talk to people with an argument about that.
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I think that that's something I could be more on board with.
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Yeah.
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I think that's a different point than you were making.
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It was.
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It was a very different point, because I left out the part that actually makes sense.
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Yeah.
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That's a good, important part to add whenever you're...
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Yeah, the part that makes sense?
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The part that makes sense is usually powerful.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Alex really just kind of wants to talk mostly about the border and what have you.
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I saw a headline from the U.N. itself yesterday, I forgot to send it to the crew, and I asked
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the crew to grab it, U.N. agency lists Texas-Mexico border as the most dangerous land crossing
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in the world.
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And they give us statistics.
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In fact, it's twice as dangerous as the next most dangerous border crossing.
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And that's in Arizona.
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U.S.A.
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U.S.A.
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U.S.A.
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And it goes on from there.
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U.S.A.
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U.S.A.
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Tens of thousands dead a year on both sides, not even a radar blip.
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So Alex is actually talking about a correct headline here, but he's making stuff up.
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The International Organization for Migration runs a project called the Missing Migrants
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Project that it seeks to quantify and record the number of deaths and disappearances there
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are among migrants around the world.
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They recently released their numbers for 2021, and the U.S.-Mexico border was the most deadly
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and most dangerous border crossing in the world.
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That should be a wakeup call, and also seems to run counter to Alex's ideas about a wide
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open border.
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Alex is making up that the Texas-Mexico border is the most dangerous and the Arizona-Mexico
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border came in second.
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The organization didn't report numbers like that, and this is just something Alex is riffing
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to make him sound like he knows more about this than he actually does because he doesn't
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know shit.
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He's also completely fabricating the tens of thousands number.
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This report, which he's citing, says that they could document quote, 1,238 deaths during
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migration in the Americas in 2021, with at least 728 of those deaths occurring on the
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U.S.-Mexico border.
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That's a...
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Far cry from tens of thousands?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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This is a really good cut and dry example of the way Alex reports stories.
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There may be a kernel of something correct in that this report does exist, but the details
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he's telling the audience are generally things that he's just making up to paint the picture
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he wants them to accept as real.
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And there's, you know, a reason why.
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And that's because you want to create this thing that is over the top bad to deflect
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attention away from the thing that just happened that is traumatizing people and is threatening
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to your worldview, which is obviously what he's doing.
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Tens of thousands dead a year on both sides, not even a radar blip.
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But we have less than 150 people killed in mass shootings a year, still way too many.
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We just had six killed in Illinois, 21 killed in Uvalde, and the media will hype the hell
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out of it, and there will be more copycats, mentally ill, highly suggestible individuals
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on psychotropics.
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The individual who is reportedly the shooter, Bobby Cremo, had a YouTube channel.
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It was taken down last night.
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I watched all 26 videos on it, you know, you fucking didn't talk about depressing and scary.
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I sent links to it to my producers by the time they got here at 7 a.m. this morning.
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They'd all been deleted, but they were able to find some of them.
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But let me tell you what's on them.
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Extremely haunting.
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I watched every one of them.
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He did animations about mass shooting at schools, complete with crying and screaming and blood.
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He made music videos about the same thing.
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He even got into the school that he went to years ago and shot a music video inside of
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it.
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So you can see here one of the main reasons that Alex tries to paint the picture that
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this report was saying that tens of thousands of people are dying a year on the border on
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both sides, because it's a way that he can minimize the impact of mass shootings.
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The reality is that mass shootings are bad and happen a lot and are such a problem that
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you have to lie about something else to make them seem insignificant in comparison.
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You know, it's kind of an interesting mirror image of all too often the conversation on
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the opposite spectrum of gun rights or political rights, insofar as most people are like, listen,
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there are problems with the Democrats and we need to choose the lesser of two evils.
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Whereas on the right, the strategy is ignore the lesser of two evils.
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You need to be way more afraid of 10,000 people dying on the border.
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Ignore this lesser of two evils, you know, gun, whatever that is.
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I don't even know about that.
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You know, it's a fascinating mirror image, I think.
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That's interesting.
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So now I was struck by Alex's insistence that he watched all of the guy's videos as you
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were as well.
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He seems to really want to make clear, which is weird, that he watched them all.
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I don't know why.
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Well if you say I watched all of them multiple times, especially if you're Alex, I doubt
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you watched them.
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I also think, I think I know which video from a school that he's talking about, and I think
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that was just a set.
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I don't think that was actually...
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That wasn't actually the school?
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I think so.
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Yeah, but why not?
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Because there's like lockers on one side of the wall and then the lockers are a door.
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Like, I don't think this is a real classroom.
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Alright.
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I personally did not watch all of this guy's content, but the amount of things I did see
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lead me to the conclusion that I was unprepared to make a conclusion about what was going
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on here.
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There may be a fair amount of content available from this guy, but it may be a while until
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there's any real idea of what motivated him to do this, and I don't believe that watching
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a few YouTube videos, which I don't even trust that Alex did, would make anything more clear.
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I don't trust Alex's assessment on this, and I don't fully trust my own assessment of it
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because I don't really have a concrete one about what this guy was all about.
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I mean, from all that I've learned, I just discovered what a Nazi cat boy was, so I have
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nowhere to go from that.
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That's my baseline.
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You are late to the party, man.
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I'm way late to the party.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Oh, well.
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Congratulations and welcome to that awareness.
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It was really nice to not be there for a while.
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So Alex didn't just watch all of these videos.
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Now, we have at least five of the videos we were able to find.
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And I watched over 20 of them last night, some repeatedly, and I should have called
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crew and had them download them then, but it was 4th of July and it was 8 o'clock at
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night by the time I started watching them, it was past 10 before I'd finished.
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And they did get some of the bad ones, but some of them they did not get.
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I'm sure somebody will dig them up, but I really don't want to subject you to this.
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I mean, very haunting.
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Some of the music's actually pretty good beats.
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I hate you.
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What?
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I hate you so much.
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That's so weird.
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Deep in the bottom of my soul, I want to...
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The hate.
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It's really weird.
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Some of it's good beats.
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I mean...
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That's strange.
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Do you know what that echoes?
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Us and fucking Buckley.
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Yeah.
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He had some good beats, though.
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He had some good beats.
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I don't know.
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I don't know which of the videos had good beats that Alex is talking about, but that's
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very strange.
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Yeah.
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Also strange, the notion that he watched some repeatedly.
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What are you trying to get out of that, man?
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I really don't know.
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Looking for clues?
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Man, I don't know.
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My first thought is it goes to a dark place, but most of my first thoughts go to dark places
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these days.
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Maybe he just really, really did like those beats.
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He did those beats, yeah.
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So yeah, you got to rise above, though, because you see a lot of people pointing a lot of
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fingers surrounding the shooting, and Alex doesn't want to do that.
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The left's trying to blend the right wing, the right wing's trying to blend the left
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wing.
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He had already probably a four-hour dive on the sky last night, two hours watching the
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sickening videos, the haunting videos of him, his music videos and his art videos and his
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animation pieces, most of them about shooting up schools.
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And I can tell you that it's demonic, just like all the other shootings of this nature.
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And it's 100% driven by seeing the mass shootings of the media and it being hyped up.
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So what was the other two hours?
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He spent four hours plus, the two hours was the, what was the other two hours?
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I mean, that was whenever he played the beats for his kids.
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Oh, sure.
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He wanted to give them kind of like a good basis for hip-hop music and really kind of,
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yeah.
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So this is Alex attempting to appear above the fray and acting like he's critical of
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the left and right for pointing fingers, but you have to understand that his ideology exists
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in a certain way and if you do, you'll understand that this is doublespeak.
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He believes that the Democratic Party and the left as a whole are either knowingly working
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for Satan or have been tricked into working for Satan or possibly some are possessed by
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literal demons.
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When he says that the left is blaming the right and the right is blaming the left but
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this is really demonic, he's blaming the left but doing so in a way where he can pretend
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that there's a larger point to what he's saying.
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It's essentially an analog for most of his career, attempting to appear to be above the
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left-right paradigm when in reality, he's just a far-right extremist and his only complaint
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about the right wing is that he thinks that they're secretly part of the left wing.
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Yeah, I mean, well, and the way he treats that like, oh, the left is blaming the right
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and the right is blaming the left, you can argue that but what he's really trying to
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say is that the left is blaming the right because they're demonic monsters and the right
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needs to calm it down for a little bit.
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They can't be blaming people just yet.
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We gotta, listen, I understand guys, but right now is not the time.
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Or that the left is blaming the right and the right who are blaming the left are actually
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secretly also the left.
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Right, sure, yeah.
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Like Dan Crenshaw.
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No one is where I am.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So, this is about it for the shooting for now.
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This individual, Bobby Cremio, is the definition of mind control.
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He also liked to dress up wearing FBI agent outfits and just like the white supremacist
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shooter followed the same MO in Buffalo, New York, and was under constant contact with
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a retired federal agent, I will bet you my bottom dollar that this individual was under
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cultural mass mind control and probably directed mind control.
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Okay, you wanna make a bet?
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I mean, eh.
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I mean, I think that's a pretty easy bet to win, probably.
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He'll never pay out and he'll pretend he never said that when it's impossible for him to
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prove anything.
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Yep.
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So, like I said, this is about it.
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He said his piece, he watched these videos, it's demonic, he's a weird dude who dresses
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up like an FBI agent, it's probably mind control and Alex will bet his bottom buck.
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But he's not going all the way into saying that this is a false flag, he's just saying
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that the kid was mind controlled by the government.
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So it's not a false flag.
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Well, he's probably mind controlled for sure by the culture, so like video games and music
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and what have you.
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Sure, sure.
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Yeah, and then the media covering mass shootings makes a copycrat effect and he's also under
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mind control and probably on psych meds.
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MK Ultra.
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Right.
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So, that's where we are.
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And then the rest of the show for a bit takes a different turn.
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The most dangerous land border in the world is the Texas-Mexico border.
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And today, we're going to have a lawyer on who's involved in this later.
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I think it will be the third hour.
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I'll cover this coming up last segment of this hour.
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A whole string of Texas counties and towns are going to declare an emergency of invasion
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and total collapse and call for aid from the state and federal government.
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Texas is in a total and complete emergency.
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Holy shit.
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Wow.
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Yep.
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I mean, you know, it is so unsurprising to go racist so quick as a distraction technique.
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At this point in the episode, I had high hopes.
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Yeah.
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No, I didn't.
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But I had some kind of a hope that this is Alex reporting incorrectly.
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Sure.
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And it wasn't somebody who was actually trying to declare immigration and invasion.
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So it's somebody who's going to try and declare immigration and invasion?
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Yep.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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That sounds right.
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It's about as bad as it, you imagine.
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Yeah.
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It's really fucked up and it didn't become clear how fucked up it was until the interview
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at the end of the show actually happens.
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I don't even know if that's true anymore.
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You know, now that my imagination includes that there is no bottom, I really don't know
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if they can surprise me with anything at this point.
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What if you walk in and you see the crawling chaos as a thought?
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That would shock me.
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I mean, but I think, magically speaking, that would have to, right?
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It emanates.
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It might be Nyarlathotep, might be the crawling chaos, I can't remember.
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One of them appears as an itinerant showman.
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Sure, sure.
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But I'm fairly certain that it's magically impossible for me to not feel fear around
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that beast, right?
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Yeah, I guess so, probably.
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So Owen's going to cover this press conference about calling immigration and invasion.
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And today on The War Room, 3 p.m. when they have the press conference, Owen Schroyer will
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be carrying the press conference live, 3 p.m. Central, Infowars.com forward slash show,
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and the live feed section of Band.video.
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Hope you'll share it because Texas is calling for aid and we need to listen to what's happening
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because the collapse of Texas heralds the collapse of the United States and the designed
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failed system.
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Speaking of that, I want to talk to listeners, I want to be very, very clear with you right
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now.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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I told you 30 months ago you need to start buying storeable foods because of inflation
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and coming food shortages under the great reset.
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Speaking of that.
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And that you would only save money by buying food then because food prices would explode.
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Exactly what I told you happened.
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I only promote and sell things that I believe are the very best plan for myself personally.
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And so a lot of you have been on the fence about this.
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You have high quality storeable food, hundreds of different types of high quality nutritious
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food, ready to ship you at the lowest price you're going to find.
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So I need to point out that Alex wasn't selling his emergency food buckets as a way to save
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on grocery bills in the near future.
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Yeah, I doubt that.
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He doesn't get to claim that he got that one right because he was using all kinds of fear-based
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shit to sell this food.
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The sales pitch was often that your family was going to starve to death because there
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would be no food so you needed to buy this stuff.
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Not that inflation was going to make some things a bit more expensive.
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He said he would barbecue your ass.
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That was why you were buying food because in 10 days Alex himself would eat you.
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Or with COVID there would only be lone survivors.
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Exactly.
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Where would you go?
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There's nobody to man the grocery store.
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Right.
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It's cataclysmic stuff.
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It's like the dollar is going to disappear in all of its value and then you can't buy
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food.
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So yeah.
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Nobody's going to become cannibals within 15 days.
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It's that shit.
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He wasn't like buy storeable food because milk is going to go up by a dollar and a half
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per gallon.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I find this disingenuous.
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Yeah.
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So there was a shooting at a parade, a 4th of July parade.
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There were deaths.
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A lot of people hurt.
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Here's how Alex is going to spend some time.
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But when I start the next hour, I'm going to spend two segments on this stack right
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here.
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For TV viewers, you can see this big stack in my hand.
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This is mainstream government reports and mainstream news articles saying that genetic
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engineers have created synthetic aliens, not of any plant or animal DNA, but out of nanotech.
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Alright, so that's where we're at.
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We're going to complain about immigration being an invasion and we're going to prove
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that scientists are inventing aliens.
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Wow.
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I really think this would make Infowars listeners change the channel.
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Right?
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I don't know.
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I kind of think they go there looking for, I mean especially if there's mass shooting,
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I think they go there looking for him to make up some conspiracies about it.
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I do agree, but I also think that maybe he is keenly aware that there's enough of an
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internet economy for that that he doesn't even need to do that.
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That is entirely possible.
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It might be a risk that he doesn't feel like he needs to make, like big swings on these
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kinds of things.
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They'll come back tomorrow.
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Right.
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And it makes him a little more interesting to prove that aliens are being made by scientists.
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Possible, especially for people who want to pretend that mass shootings are no big deal.
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I don't even know why we're talking about them anymore.
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There's another reason he's doing this and we'll get to that later.
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Oh yeah.
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Nanobots?
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He's got them?
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Uh, no.
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Ooh.
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This is a multifaceted thousand prong attack, economic, cultural, biomedical, hitting us
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from so many angles, but it's all been prepared and blueprinted and war gamed by the Rockefeller
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Foundation, by the Carnegie Endowment, by the United Nations, by John Hopkins.
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And that's how we know all this.
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I didn't just say, oh look, these documents match what's happening a few years ago when
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this takeover started in early 2000.
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I was doing whole shows and writing books and making films, hit films.
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I mean, no exaggeration, remember Google Video?
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And then when they bought YouTube 16, 17 years ago, they began to phase it out.
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I released End Game, Blueprint for Global Enslavement in 2007 and Google Video was only
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around for about another year and a half after that.
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The last time I checked Google Video, it had 89 million views on it.
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Whoa.
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Okay.
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And then they killed Google Video.
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Now it had one version with 20 million views on YouTube, they killed that a few years ago.
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Another version with 5 million, they killed that.
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There's a bunch of versions with a few hundred thousand views left, they're killing those.
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Whoa.
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We have it posted at Band Out Video for free.
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So cool.
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The point is, if you go watch it, you're going to want to throw up in your mouth.
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It's two and a half hours long, you'll read the quotes, the preparations, the getting
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ready.
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And then in the years after that, 2008, 9, 10, and 11, there are hours of videos that
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we've played here where I specifically read from Operation Lockstep Rockefeller Foundation.
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I specifically read from the UN documents and say they're going to release a virus,
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probably a bird flu strain out of China.
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It will be one that continues to infect unlike other viruses because I was reading their
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battle plans.
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So you spent nine hours talking about how full of shit End Game is and how most of the
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quotes Alex covers in that are actually fake.
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They're just from like memes and stuff.
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Watching it does make me want to throw up in my mouth though, but mostly because of
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Alex's overwrought narration voice.
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Yeah.
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God, it's embarrassing.
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It's really, really annoying.
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So Alex gets no respect from me for predictions he's made because he ignores all the millions
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of things that he's gotten totally wrong.
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If I predicted that every team was going to win the Super Bowl, I don't get to pretend
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that I'm some kind of a prophet because I only acknowledge the one prediction that was
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correct.
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Well, nobody expects you to pick the Chargers.
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So I mean...
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Well, I picked them all.
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Well, but you don't need to tell people that.
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Also Operation Lockstep still isn't a real thing and Alex has never and will never cover
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the documents he bases his conspiracies on in any detail because if he did so, those
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conspiracies would collapse immediately.
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Oh yeah.
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The only thing that's holding them together is the audience not realizing that the actual
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documents don't prove anything and that the actual basis for the conspiracy is just stuff
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Alex is making up so things better serve his political and ideological worldview.
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Because of that flimsy foundation, Alex has to keep moving and never spend time covering
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anything in depth since that would instantly reveal that there is no depth to anything
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that he's talking about and it would destroy the illusion that he's created for the audience.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it'd be...
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It would be a surprise and I think what would be really interesting about it if he did just
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come out and say I was making all of it up is how no one would believe him.
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I honestly don't think he thinks he's making all of it up.
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I agree.
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I agree with that.
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But I mean, say there was a come to Jesus moment for this fella on the road to Damascus
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or whatever and he's like, listen, I gotta come clean.
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I don't think anybody would believe him.
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I don't think he's necessary to believing his bullshit.
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Not anymore.
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Yeah.
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It exists without him.
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Yeah, I don't think so.
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And I bet that to some degree it wouldn't have mattered early either.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's a bummer, but yeah, probably true.
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So look, Alex is so right about that.
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What a transition.
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Yep.
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He is so right that it's suspicious.
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It is kind of suspicious.
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But see, that's why they've got to keep us off of the general internet because people
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will go back and see that and go, oh my God, this happened absolutely the way Jones said.
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Well, it's not the way Jones said.
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And there's a new phenomenon.
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I don't mind it.
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It's very sad for people out there that I see without even looking and people send to
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me on Instagram, Twitter, everywhere.
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Jones is one of them.
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That's how he knows this.
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He's with them.
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That is such a crutch.
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And that is so wrong because I want you and a lot of you've already done this to learn
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how to know what I know.
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You can go read Operation Lockstep from 2011.
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You can read Spars 2025, 2028 from 2018.
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So this is exactly the kind of criticism of Alex that I hope to eradicate from people's
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mind.
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And it's not a coincidence that this is the kind of criticism that Alex is more than willing
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to bring up and address on his show to engage with this criticism.
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The reason is because in order for someone to be making this criticism of Alex, they
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need to have already bought in on the underlying premise that Alex has been right about everything.
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In order to argue that he must secretly be a globalist or some kind of limited hangout
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or a honeypot, you have to already accept Alex's framing of the world.
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And by doing so, you've lost any ability to actually make any meaningful critique of what
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he does.
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Alex is not right about things.
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He's a malicious liar who primarily just makes things up.
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The most work he does about the stories he covers is to skim a headline and then improvise
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an explanation for how that fits into his worldview.
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His understanding of the primary sources he relies on to build up said worldview is horrific,
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and none of the documents he uses to prove his point say what he claims they do.
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Alex hasn't just been wrong about stuff, it's almost meaningless to quibble about rightness
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or wrongness because really the criticism of Alex that's most cutting is that he's just
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making up most of the stuff he talks about and none of it has any value to anyone in
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the audience.
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He's welcome to surprise me and actually address our criticisms of him on his show, but mysteriously
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that never happens.
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I don't think he's going to do it.
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So weird for the pettiest man in the world to never bring up that there's a podcast that's
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released 700 episodes in the past five years about how he's a liar and a piece of shit,
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but he spends time pushing back against meaningless anonymous criticism that even if the audience
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accepted it still upholds Alex's genius and his conspiracy worldview.
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So weird.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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I think it's an ironic point to say it's suspicious that I'm right all the time, you
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know?
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Because yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Not usually am I suspicious of somebody who's right all the time in the sense that like,
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oh, you must have inside information so much as I am like, you're probably making this
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up.
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That's why you're right all the time because you have control over what happens in this
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narrative.
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Yeah.
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Yes, of course you're right.
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Alex is more than fine to address conspiracies about his conspiracy.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Because that's still within the game.
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Perfect game.
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Yeah, no, I mean, what's funny about it is that he breaks into the consciousness almost
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like what he's created a completely fictional world and sometimes it'll touch the real world
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just the slightest little bit and then people will be like, holy shit, he's right.
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His fake world is in the real world, you know?
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And it's just a tap.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So really his pettiness, I want to really-
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Next to godliness I've heard.
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It is.
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For him.
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Yeah.
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I want to really stress how petty he is.
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He's so petty.
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Because when he was talking about the scientists creating aliens, I told you there's another
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reason he was covering this.
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Yeah.
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Alright, let's hit some really big news right now and then we're going to take calls starting
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at the bottom of the hour before a special guest joins us on the declaration of emergency
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about to be made in Texas of total invasion and collapse.
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Interesting declaration.
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This happens a lot and I know when I say these things on air they're just going to be taken
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out of context, but god works in mysterious ways and what they make fun of me about today
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people discover to be true tomorrow.
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So his big news is that someone posted a little clip of him and it was going around on Twitter
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and it was about him declaring independence from the globalists and devil and stuff.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Gotta.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So that's the big news is that he went viral on Twitter.
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The big news is he had an Independence Day speech that was not as good as Bill Pullman's
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but-
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The big news is some of the other ones he's done in the past.
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Honestly.
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He's declared his independence a lot.
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He has declared a lot of independences.
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Right.
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But it's so funny to me, I was in the shower and I was thinking, I was like, him declaring
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his independence from the globalists is essentially like if you have a job and you quit that job
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and then you're like, all right, I guess you quit that job.
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And then like two months later you quit that job again.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You already quit.
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I've had a lot of time to think about it and I've decided to quit it better this time.
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You already quit.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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Let me have another chance.
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All right, fine.
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And then a couple months later you quit again.
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All right.
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I know, I know I said I had it better the second time, but really third time's a charm,
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man.
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Each time you make a huge deal out of how you're quitting.
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Until 20 years later, you're all old men just walking in going like, hey Ralph.
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Now-
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Quitting again.
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Now imagine the job doesn't exist.
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That's the situation we're in with Alex declaring his independence.
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And I appreciate people who are late to the party who like post clips of him declaring
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his independence from demons and stuff because it is novel and it's, you know, if you don't
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listen to his show, you don't know that he does this shit all the time.
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And everybody likes a good Independence Day speech.
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Sure.
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Why not?
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So anyway, yes, he has had this video that people have been making fun of.
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And so he's going to spend two segments talking about how aliens are being created by scientists.
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Right, right.
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Because a video went around making fun of him.
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You know there was a shooting at a 4th of July parade.
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No, but that didn't happen to him specifically.
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It seems like this is a waste of your time, my guy.
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It's a waste of everybody's time.
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Yep.
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Oh yeah.
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So Alex is kind of complaining about this video going around, but this is-
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I mean gleefully, right?
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Like look at how much people are talking about me, right?
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He's complaining about people paying attention to the thing he did specifically for attention.
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I know.
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This is a clip that he made just to go viral.
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It's ridiculous.
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And so it's on MSNBC.
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It's on CNN.
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It's on ABC.
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It's on Newsweek.
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It was not.
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It's everywhere.
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Alex Jones claims aliens want to make humans into cyborg slaves of Satan.
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Well if we could put the image on screen from five years ago that really caught people's
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attention of Mark Zuckerberg walking into one of his events and he's walking bipedally,
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but all of his minions are strapped in to the VR goggles.
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Those are cyborg slaves of Satan.
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Sounds right.
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People love that term I coined, but the point is that it's a metaphor for what's happening.
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Okay, there's a picture of Mark Zuckerberg and a bunch of people have VR goggles on.
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Yep.
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Cool.
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They're bipedally.
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You understand.
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Right.
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Okay.
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So did they when they took off the goggles and got up.
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No, no, no.
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They had to stay down while Satan was there.
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Sure.
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And then Satan left and then they could stand up again.
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Uh huh.
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And the VR goggles were to blind them from Satan's beautiful light.
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He's Lucifer, obviously.
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He's the light-bringer.
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Uh huh.
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Yeah.
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So, look.
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Alex plays the clip of himself.
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Yeah.
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And then, this is shocking to me, because if you listen to this carefully, he's essentially
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saying, I believe everything in this clip quite literally.
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They took me out of context, but I should say I believe all of this.
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So here is the short clip out of context.
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I declare this July 4th, 2022 to be a declaration of independence against the alien force on
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this planet today waging war against humans and our biology and our very future that is
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attempting to exterminate the majority of us and force the minority that's left to merge
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with AI computers and become cyborg slaves of Satan.
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The average person spends now three days out of seven days looking at screens.
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And most of those messages are anti-human.
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Men can have babies.
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Two women can have a baby.
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All of this is to get you off balance and not standing up for what you are and who you
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are.
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And at the base of it is the transhumanist movement.
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So when we come back, I'm going to play a few minutes in context, because I didn't go
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right into the type of alien I'm talking about.
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I'm telling you.
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But I'm saying I believe the Bible.
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I've seen it.
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True.
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Predicting the mark of the beast.
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All this, that it is a interdimensional attack, a collaboration of collaborator humans put
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into power in high places by the principalities of this earth.
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Off world creatures marooned here to attack humans and disease humans and annihilate humans
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while they use us that are actually more advanced than them, we just don't know who we are,
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to build the advanced technology they need to then escape.
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And boy do they attack that and make fun of it because they know I'm exposing the illuminati
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cult.
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That's not why.
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I think he's saying that they're making fun of me in this out of context clip.
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So I'm going to play the full clip and then they'll be convinced that I'm correct.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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But look, I mean, like one of the reasons that like, you know, you complain that someone's
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taking you out of context is because that thing that is out of context does not accurately
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represent what it is that you're trying to just communicate.
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But Alex is saying like, not only do I believe everything, 100% I want you to know that it's
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crazier than you think.
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I know.
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I really feel like that's like.
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I want you to know that I believe that demons were stranded here.
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You think you can make fun of me for me telling you only a small bit of the truth?
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Come on, man.
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Come on, man.
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You don't even know.
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So what Alex does is one of his trademark rattling off of headlines that he thinks proves
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his point and, and it does not, it amounts to just less than a hill of beans.
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All right.
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So I just did a few minutes on that.
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They took it out of context real quick.
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He did play his full clip, but did it convince you?
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No.
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Oh, and they're all over the news on TV, rolling images of independence day with flying saucers
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over New York city, blowing up the, the, the big apple.
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So let me show you anybody watching this on TV or anybody in the radio can record this.
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You know, look up every one of these articles and you can see it for yourself.
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What I was talking about, here's one good place to start with, and this is the main
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religion of the globalist.
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That's all they talk about.
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You know, we can play you countless Davos group clips, looking forward to the end of
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humanity.
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COVID-19 shows we're a failed species.
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We must merge the machines, get rid of what we were and become Silicon wall street journal.
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So that's not a accurate depiction of that article at all.
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No, that doesn't sound right.
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Nope.
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That is an article about how, as there is greater technology and health availability
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and stuff like this that income inequality is going to be a drastic factor in things.
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And maybe this idea that we have of overcoming disease and some ideas about transhumanism,
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maybe a lot of these ideas are actually not as good as some people are making them out
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to be.
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That's actually what the op-ed is about.
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But Alex, thoughtful about the future is it might as well be the better title of there.
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Let's think about this before we just start cramming shit in our bodies.
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Alex loves the title though, and it works for him and it's all that he remembers.
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So horror.
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Yep.
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Uh, then there's some more NBC news.
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Cyborgs will replace humans and remake the world.
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James Lovelock says NBC news says soon there'll be no more humans.
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Humans will be obsolete.
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The future.
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From a human to cyborg, are you willing to augment your body?
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Why the future doesn't need us.
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Wired.
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So that's, I mean, the cyborg thing is just this guy, James Lovelock, who, uh, is a guy
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who's like, ah, here's an idea I have.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't mean that cyborgs are going to replace humans.
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I've got an idea.
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And then, uh, real quick, the, uh, why the future doesn't need us is that article from
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Wired magazine that he lies about all the fucking time.
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I mean, nonstop.
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Uh, he believes that it is just the, uh, the whole article is just the small passage where
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the author Bill Joy quotes the Unabomber.
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Right.
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Uh, that is what he has taken away from this entire article.
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Yeah.
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So boo.
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I mean, you know, I wonder how Bill Joy feels knowing that he was the mouthpiece for the
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plan of the globalists.
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You know, does he ever think, wait, I think I might've been used or is he in on it?
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I don't know, but I'd sue Alex if I were him.
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I would definitely sue Alex if I were him.
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Yeah.
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So there's another clip.
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Scientists create aliens to see net alien life form with artificial genetic code.
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That's what I was talking about.
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Uh, so this is just an article from 2014 and it's not about a life form and the way Alex
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makes it seem, uh, researchers just, they fused a modified E. Coli with some lab made
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nucleotides and the genes were, uh, that they put in were able to be passed down when the
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bacteria reproduced.
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That's really cool.
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Yeah.
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It is fascinating.
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This is another example of Alex just having headlines that he likes to go back to because
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if it weren't, he wouldn't use this catchy headline and he would know that, uh, in 2017
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the same team had a further breakthrough where they quote announced that their semi synthetic
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strain of E. Coli is the first to both contain the unnatural bases in its DNA and use the
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bases to instruct cells to make a new protein.
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Or he would know that last year there was another paper published about this ongoing
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research that's been headed up by Dr. Floyd Romesburg.
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Alex doesn't know anything about this story, but the headline works for him.
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So he just incorporates, uh, whatever he wants it to mean into his story.
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That's basically all he's doing.
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Yeah.
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It's nothing.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he's doing nothing.
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If you wanted to pull that story out and not be like, Oh, there's a new or alien life form
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and more be like, has anybody ever read any story where people have played God before
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just throwing this out here?
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Has anybody ever read a story where people played God before?
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How did that turn out?
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They played God.
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What happened next?
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Well, we'll get to that a couple, a couple of citations down the road.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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But here, here's the next one that Alex is misrepresenting.
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NASA watch new life forms discovered on the space station.
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NASA yawns in response.
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This article is key because key, it's got dozens of links in it to them announcing they
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create aliens with synthetic systems on the space stations in zero gravity.
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So this is a story from last March about four strains of bacteria that were found on the
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international space station inside three of which were previously unknown to science.
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NASA's most certainly not yawning about this because the idea that bacteria could survive
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in space has massive ramifications in terms of being able to grow food in space, which
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would be a game changer.
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That said, these are not newly created life forms and it's pretty well understood that
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these bacteria came from Earth and were introduced to the space station by way of a passenger
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or cargo.
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Research on them found that they were genetically and taxonomically similar to bacteria commonly
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found on rice grains.
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To put this in perspective though, here's an expert who spoke to the Guardian.
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Quote, in every spoon of soil or stool sample, there are hundreds of undescribed microbial
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species.
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I'm sure there's still hundreds or even thousands of less characterized, maybe even unknown
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microorganisms aboard the ISS.
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So yeah, it could be a game changer in terms of space food, or it could be something that's
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kind of interesting, but not really that big of a deal.
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Whatever the case, reality has no connection to what Alex is talking about here.
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This is nonsense.
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Right.
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They created aliens in zero gravity.
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I don't think you can do that by, for, I mean, mainly linguistic reasons.
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Now you're getting into a place where reasonable people could disagree.
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Now we have a conversation.
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We're arguing semantics.
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Now we have a conversation.
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Now I'm willing to get my hands dirty.
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So look, there's a lot of headlines that Alex reads and a number of them are kind of like,
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I don't even know what this has to do with anything.
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And I got a little bit bored.
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But there was one other one that I think is worth mentioning because I think this is maybe
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as close as he gets to anything that seems like, huh, all right, maybe we're in messy
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territory here.
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Okay.
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World's first living robots can now reproduce, scientists say.
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Huh?
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Can create a chain reaction.
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CNN.
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Chain reaction.
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Hell yeah.
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So Alex is reading a real headline, but it's not really accurate to the story.
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These robots can't reproduce per se, but they can clump things together.
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So these are basically clumps of frog stem cells, which can respond to certain stimuli
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that researchers give them.
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According to one scientist, quote, at the moment, they don't do much.
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We can get them to walk across the Petri dish very, very slowly or swim through watery fluid
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very, very slowly.
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There's nothing going on inside it.
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There's no brain.
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There's no digestive system.
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However, researchers have noted that they have a tendency to clump things together when
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they were introduced into their Petri dish, and the idea came up to see if they would
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do that with other frog stem cells.
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The scientists added some new frog stem cells and these xenobots, as they're called, did
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in fact clump these cells together, effectively creating a new xenobot.
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This is not what Alex is describing.
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He's playing fast and loose with the headline, but I would maybe say that we shouldn't go
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too much further down this research road.
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When you're talking about that plague god, you're like, ew, this is dicey.
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Come on, come on.
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What's the worst that could happen?
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Cup two.
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I was reading an article about this, and there are beneficial outcomes that are kind of interesting
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about this in terms of being able to deliver medicines, places in your body.
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There are a number of applications for it, but yeah, I mean, just on the surface it seems
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like, guys, come on.
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I've read a book.
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No, we're the most responsible scientists to be doing this.
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Listen, we're not crazy.
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I'm sure they're not crazy.
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Who said we were crazy?
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Sorry.
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Yeah.
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This is where I kind of drop into Alex's head.
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You know, that place where reality and fiction merge.
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Yeah, just a little bit.
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When you've got frog stem cells that somehow are pushing other frog stem cells together,
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like that's to be like, guys, this is fine now.
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I always rely back, you know, I have dabbled in writing, and maybe sometimes a lot of those
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books about people playing God are more about how the writer needs narrative tension, you
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know?
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And playing God and then everything being fine doesn't sound, like the narrative tension
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there is like, what the fuck did we ever need God for?
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Let's find out how to kill that guy.
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Now you've got some narrative tension.
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Yeah, I agree with you that if you're ever making a story and it involves playing God,
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it has to go wrong.
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It has to go bad.
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It can't be fine.
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Yeah, there's no reason that story, there's no tension there.
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They played God happily ever after.
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Right.
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Short story.
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I loved it.
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So we get back to the shooting now because Alex has got a piece of news that makes this
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able to be covered.
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Right.
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Well, they've just had a press conference.
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We're getting the video for you in the next hour up in Allen Park, Illinois, where a psychotic
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shot and killed six people injured another 60.
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We saw the photos and videos of him dressed like a woman.
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They said at the press conference, he was dressed like a woman when they captured him.
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Starting to figure this out yet, folks, this is like Mars attacks where the alien comes
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in and it's dressed like a woman when it tries to kill her by the White House.
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It's their camouflage, ladies and gentlemen.
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When I say alien, I mean alien to humanity, alien to the future, alien to everything we
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stand for as humans.
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This is legitimately nuts.
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This is the last segment of the second hour and Alex has done almost zero coverage of
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the shooting at the Fourth of July parade.
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It's a giant deal and honestly, it's essentially a meatball just right over the plate for him
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to cover.
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This is an attack on the founding of America.
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The target reveals the motive.
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These commies, they can't handle the red, white and blue.
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This basically writes itself for him to the point where it's suspicious how little he's
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talking about it, choosing instead to spend a half an hour complaining about how someone
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tweeted out a video of him declaring independence from the devil.
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But now, Alex brings the shooting back up because he has a hook.
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He's heard of a way to make this a part of his transphobia, so it's not quite so threatening
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for him to talk about it.
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He can always fall back on the meaningless boilerplate, mind control, psych meds type
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talking points, but that only goes so far, particularly in relation to an event like
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this that has all of these other dynamics to it.
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By making this about his abject hatred of trans people, Alex can now more comfortably
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talk about this shooting because he can scapegoat a vulnerable community instead of dealing
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with the actual issues that underlie this tragedy.
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In reality, it's believed that the shooter dressed as a woman has a disguise to help
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him escape the scene, particularly because he has notable facial and neck tattoos which
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could be covered up with a wig, scarf and makeup.
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He was not dressed as a woman, he was arrested, as Alex is claiming.
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This is just Alex trying to turn this into a transphobia narrative, which you notice
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he also did in the immediate aftermath of Yuvoldi's shooting.
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Yeah, yeah, I saw that one going around a couple of times and I really do believe if
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somebody said that to my face I would attack them.
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Like my eye was twitching listening to him talk about that.
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I will viciously attack you if you say that to my fucking face.
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It's not fun.
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Nope.
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But Alex goes a little bit further.
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Before YouTube took down his 20 plus videos I watched last night, at least in five or
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six of them, he dresses as a woman.
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So now he dresses as a woman to, how does he know?
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He was drinking the New World Order Kool-Aid 110%.
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And so look for him to cover that up as well.
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All right, we're taking your phone calls.
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Wow, it's so weird how Alex didn't bring that up earlier when he was bragging about how
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he'd watched all the videos multiple times.
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So strange how it was just a vague accusation of demons and devilry and how he dressed up
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like an FBI agent.
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But now that he's heard that Creamo dressed as a woman to obscure his identity escaping
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the scene, I guess Alex remembered all those videos he totally watched.
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I know that this is a lie because Alex is such an aggressive transphobe that if he had
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watched videos where Creamo was dressed as a woman that would have been the only thing
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he talked about for the first hour of this show.
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We would have gotten a special report that night.
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Yeah.
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That would have been our special report.
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I imagine that it probably would have if he had that hook earlier on.
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It's offensive, it's disgusting, and Alex is clearly lying.
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I mean, when he says he watched all these videos, you know that's a lie.
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Yeah, you already know it's a lie.
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And now this makes it even more of a lie.
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There's a compound lie on top of it.
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Yes.
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So Alex does take some calls.
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He gets one guy who's a weirdo.
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First of all, thanks for all the products you've got.
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I've got Alexa Breeze in all my rooms and my wife, she gets a little upset when it's
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not running, so she's kind of used to that now.
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Thanks for keeping us on air.
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Yes, sir.
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So I guess the one thing I want to bring up is, excuse me, have you ever heard of Jonathan
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Cleck?
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No.
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You haven't?
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Well, he's right there in San Antonio and he's got a line on all this stuff.
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And I got to tell you, he's really helped me.
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I listen to you during the day and I listen to him at night.
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Sure, is his name Jonathan Quick or Cleck?
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Cleck.
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Cleck.
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His name means Jonathan Cleck.
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Yahweh has given a bell ringer.
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So he's got the explanation for all this transgender and all this alien.
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It's all Bible fact.
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So Cleck is a doomsday preacher in San Antonio, but he's not one of these the end is coming
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guys.
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He's really, we got to make the end happen.
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No, the end is here.
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It's already happening.
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So he might as well act like it.
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His website is called This Is It Before The Fire.
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I watched a little bit of one of his videos, mostly to figure out if this was him calling
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into Alex's show to get free press.
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Yeah, to see if he was doing it.
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It's not the same voice.
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But I did see him doing some really weird attempts at linguistic breakdown of Bible
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verses.
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That's the best.
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And I also noticed that his YouTube videos have about like a hundred views on them.
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So pretty small audience.
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This guy's in a real leash.
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So it's this guy and him a hundred more times.
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Conceivably.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, I don't know.
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I got the sense from looking at his website that this isn't something good.
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No, that doesn't sound like it.
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No.
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No, we better be super nice to people.
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No, that doesn't sound right.
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So yeah, we get another call and this guy wants to talk national monuments.
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Hey, Jones, I got three main points I want to make.
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One about Mount Rushmore, Trump, and Slack.
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Go ahead.
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First, Mount Rushmore related to cultural warfare.
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So if you look at Mount Rushmore, we have the founding fathers, Jefferson, so on and
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so forth.
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They're right now putting up a crazy horse, a monument, a crazy horse, his own monument
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was at the time, you know, scalping the seventh Calvary.
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You know, when we fought in that region, it's a cultural war and the left is winning the
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cultural war.
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If that's the cultural war that's being fought here, then yeah, this guy is making it pretty
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clear that his side is just in favor of a homogenous white culture.
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I sure hope the other side is winning that culture war.
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Yeah.
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George Teddy Roosevelt and Lincoln are definitely not founding fathers.
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Nope.
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And he also seems to have forgotten George Washington.
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Yeah.
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The Crazy Horse Memorial is not like a plan to destroy Mount Rushmore.
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It's just another monument nearby that people have been complaining about for decades.
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I went to Mount Rushmore when I was like 13 and I remember people complaining about the
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Crazy Horse Memorial then.
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Yeah.
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They started working on it in 1948 and it's not even close to being done.
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And it's just this perfect grist for the racist mill.
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They're just, they cannot stop complaining about this.
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It's a good indicator of who sucks.
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If you complain about the Crazy Horse Memorial, maybe that's not true.
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It's a good indicator of somebody who wants to finish a genocide.
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It's impressive that the heads are carved into that mountain, you know, Mount Rushmore.
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But I really want them exploded.
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I really want them blown up.
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I've been there.
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I've seen it.
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I think it's kind of dumb.
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Yeah.
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I mean, what are we doing?
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What are we doing?
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When I say that it's impressive, I kind of mean that it was, you know, a ways ago, technology
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was different back then.
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Sure.
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And they managed to do that.
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That's pretty cool.
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Which is impressive.
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That is a physically impressive feat of, again, genocide.
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It is a part of the genocide.
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Well, Teddy Roosevelt's on there because he made National Parks.
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On the part of the genocide!
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So we've got another caller.
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That's a part of the genocide!
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Hold on now.
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Sorry.
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This guy has a story that makes me sad.
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Hey, Alex.
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First time caller.
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Totally appreciate what you do.
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Listen, 12 years ago I was driving down the street, about a half a block down the street,
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and there was a mailbox, and it said 9-11 was an inside job and InfoWars.com.
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And that was 12 years ago, and that woke me up.
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That's all it took?
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I've got everything you've done, I've got you in the studio where I work every day.
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Um, the thing is, is that man put that sticker on that mailbox for a reason.
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And it woke me up.
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And it also took me 12 years to kind of get the balls to go down there and introduce myself.
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You know, it's kind of a weird situation.
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And um, I mean this is a neighbor, it's not a city block, it's a rural block.
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And um, long story short, um, Dr. Seves died on Thursday.
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And it was the 4th of July weekend.
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And I said, this is the time.
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I'm going to go down and introduce myself.
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Got the balls, went down there, banged on the door, and I probably said the most old
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man thing I could probably ever say in my life at 48 years old.
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Young girl answered the door and I said, hello, is your dad home?
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And um, dude comes to the door and I said, hey, my name is Phil, I live down the street.
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And um, your mailbox woke me up 12 years ago and I want to thank you for that.
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And he lit up like it was the 4th of July.
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It was.
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It was 4th of July weekend.
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It really was.
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His face lit up like it was the 4th of July.
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It was literally 4th of July.
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God, this makes me sad.
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Man, that is, there should be more.
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So I was thinking about some of the dynamics at play here.
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And I think I would be kind of afraid to knock on the door too because I know he's super
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armed.
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Got a gun.
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Yeah, he's got a lot of guns.
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Probably a little bit suspicious of people.
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If his little girl answered the door, I'd be like, Jesus Christ, don't shoot me.
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Don't shoot little girl.
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I'm cool.
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Yeah, I'm just here to talk to your dad.
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I got my hands over my head.
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Jesus Christ.
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Yeah.
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I saw a sticker.
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So now 12 years of my life have been stolen from me.
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I saw a sticker, it blew my mind and now I put up with this nonsense.
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Oh my God.
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Yep.
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I would love to just put another sticker over there.
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Alex Jones' whole shit.
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Man.
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If that story had ended with them kind of like, and we went on a date and that would
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be, I mean, if they did more than that.
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The guy brings him some Infowars t-shirts and they're good friends.
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They're happy now.
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And it's like, yeah, great.
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You guys found each other.
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You're weirdos together.
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Yeah, I guess.
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It's great.
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I guess.
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And this will one day be a terrorist cell.
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Yep.
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That's how long it takes.
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So we get to this interview that Alex has with this guy who is awful.
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They're trying to declare a Mexico border invasion.
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Okay.
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I'm interested in this because I think there would be unintended consequences if you declared
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that Texas was fully under invasion.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Probably a lot of them.
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I would assume so.
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Let's see where this goes.
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Man.
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I don't know if you are, but anyway, here's his introduction.
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Jonathan Houlihan is a great lawyer and a patriot practicing in Texas and New Mexico
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who has been spearheading county citizens defending freedom.
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And at 3 p.m. today, it's been covered by a lot of Texas TV stations.
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We'll be covering it here with Owen Schroyer in the war room coming up at 3 p.m. central.
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And this is an incredible time right now.
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So in addition to being involved in this racist nonsense, Jonathan Houlihan also recently
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was trying to run for the 8th district house seat in Texas, which he lost the GOP primary
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for back in March 2022.
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He came in third.
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So I guess he lost and this is the next play, trying to stoke fear and brand immigrants
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as invaders because I guess he thinks that's politics.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, what else would it be?
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Would it be some sort of like almost bland office job where you kind of put together
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an idea of what it is that people generally have a taste for and then try and improve
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their lives and all of that stuff?
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No.
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Oh, okay.
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So I didn't know what to expect from this in terms of like, what are you talking about?
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Yeah.
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And it went off the rails pretty quick.
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That sounds right.
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And it's been ongoing for months and months where they've organized to declare an emergency,
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declare an invasion, enforce the Texas governor to act, Governor Abbott, under the Texas Constitution.
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Article four, section seven as the commander in chief of the Texas Constitution allows
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him to repel invasions.
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And under the federal constitution, under the guarantee clause, article four, section
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four, the federal government guarantees the states are free from invasion and guarantees
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a Republican form of government and that's not happening.
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So you also see the states have warlike authority under the federal constitution, article one,
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section 10, clause three, where they can repel invasions and it grants them warlike authority.
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This legitimately seems like what he's suggesting is like a military repulsion.
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I do believe that he's suggested that Texas declare war on immigrants and then we're going
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to pretend that that doesn't mean all of Mexico.
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And Mexican people living in Texas.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because here is the problem.
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Well, there's a lot of problems.
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There are so many problems.
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Everything he's saying is a problem.
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But then when they get into talking about like, what does this look like in concept?
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You really start to get the Japanese internment.
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Nah, not that one.
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I'd also like to see the state of Texas enter into more compacts under the compacts clause
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with states like Florida, Arizona, and then really from a security standpoint, have the
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state.
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We've seen from the fucking union.
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Outside the confines of the federal government, but within the confines of the state.
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Well, that's right.
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Because of a power vacuum, they're not doing their job.
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It's up to us under the federal system to do this.
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And for those that don't know, this, the UN says most dangerous border in the world, totally
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collapsed.
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Mexican president says US government's lost control by design.
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I mean, it's on record.
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It's got to be done.
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We can't just keep waiting for Washington.
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What do you think Abbott should do under this emergency if he, if he does what's right?
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I think Abbott should do what Dwight D. Eisenhower did in the 1950s and deploy the entire Texas
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national guard and enter into compacts with other states to rebut and shut down the border
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completely.
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Not to put too fine a point on this, and I'm very sorry to use this language, but Eisenhower
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presided over what was called operation wetback that ran from 1953 to 1954 and led to the
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deportations of between hundreds of thousands to up to over a million people, many of whom
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were US citizens of Mexican descent.
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It's a historic shame on our policy decisions as a country.
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And to hear this guy thinks that this is a good model for what we should be doing.
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It's a really fucked up sign and it's indicative of what he actually wants.
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He doesn't want increased border stability or security.
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He wants to deport masses of non-white people.
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That's the whole game.
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If you use Eisenhower for inspiration on this one, what you're actually doing is using Andrew
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Jackson for inspiration on this one.
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Eh, well fuck it.
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You're actually using et cetera, et cetera.
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The point being, it is the Trail of Fucking Tears.
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And it's expulsion of indiscriminate people you have just deemed to not be American.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's a racist witch hunt at large scale.
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And it's the kind of thing that has ripples through generations.
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Generational wealth is disrupted and people are still feeling the effects of that mass
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deportation even now, 70 years later.
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And he wants to do this again and fuck this dude, fuck Alex for being in any way sympathetic
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to this and promoting it.
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God damn.
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I was gonna say, that's such a stain on our fucking history, 85% of history books pretend
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it never happened.
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And Alex probably doesn't know about it.
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Yeah, I believe it.
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So look, I have one more clip here and this is where I just said I hate all of these people.
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There was a deeply traumatic mass shooting that had just happened that you're giving
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short shrift to, not even really talking about except a little bit later you're able to turn
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it into part of your transphobic narratives.
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Fuck off.
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This is really just new welfare people to be brainwashed and controlled.
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I mean, any day you go to the border now, it's just solid masses pouring across.
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Yeah, and they have us, what bothers me the most about it is the smile on their face that
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they know that the rule of law is broken down.
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There's no consequence.
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And you've got the leftist NGOs in charge of the border patrol now managing the giant
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facilities.
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We've been down there.
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Literally former Soros group heads run all this now.
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I can find few things more distasteful than the idea that this guy who's running, or Alex
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says that he's spearheading this and kind of like in charge and he clarifies that he's
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not really like the one in charge.
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But he's clearly in charge enough that he's the person who goes on Infowars to talk about
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this.
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So that's something.
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And some part of his motivation is he feels like immigrants are smiling at him because
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they're getting away with flouting or flaunting their being over the law.
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And that's in your head, my man.
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This is a product of your hatred of them.
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You need to do some looking in the mirror because this sucks.
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I mean, that is such an encapsulation of like, it's 2022.
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What are we doing?
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How is this possible that people are trapped in the fucking civil war?
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How is it possible that we're just, that there's so many people who are like, oh, because magic
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sky, God, you can't control your life.
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Like it's insane to me.
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The reason they're still trapped in the civil war is because they don't think they lost.
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Because they lost, yeah.
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And they didn't want to.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Man.
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Yeah, man, I gotta say, I'm glad that Monday's episode was fun because there are a few things
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that I can think of that are less fun than this.
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Obviously, it didn't come up as much as you might have expected, but our hearts go out
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to everybody in Highland Park and a lot of people who live in Chicago have connections
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to Highland Park.
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So obviously it's very close to home, although it is not Chicago proper, as we point out
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to everybody who's from suburbs.
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It's just awful and at the time that we're recording this, I don't feel like you really
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know enough about it to really fully discuss it.
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So on some levels, it's maybe a blessing that Alex doesn't talk about it that much.
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But what he does talk about sucks.
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It's petty navel gazing about how he went viral, nonsense about his ideas about alien
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life forms, and then some of the most troubling commentary about immigration I've heard on
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his show.
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And I think something that's really scary about that is the way that his stuff is treated
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as pseudo-mainstream to folks like Tucker, whereas maybe in the past you could look at
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some of the stuff he's saying and be like, ah, it's insulated to this.
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It's not so much that anymore.
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And the ability for this to piggyback from Alex to some other platform to get behind
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this idea of declaring an invasion or something, it's really, really scary.
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And I don't like what it pretends.
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I mean, if Trump announces his candidacy in 2016 on just, hey, might as well have been
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like, Eisenhower was my greatest idea for the borders.
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Like, that's, I mean, why wouldn't that be-
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Also, we forgot about that he didn't declare on the 4th.
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No, that's true, he didn't.
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Strategic flexibility.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That one was a shocker to me.
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Alex does not bring that up.
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He doesn't?
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No.
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Why not?
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I don't know.
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He was so excited.
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It was exclusive.
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It was so exclusive, it didn't happen.
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It was so exclusive, Trump didn't know about it.
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He had no idea.
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Nobody told him.
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If he had known, it would have been great.
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So we will be back on Friday with something, hopefully-
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Better.
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Eh, we'll see.
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Well.
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But until then, we have a website.
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We do, it's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, we are also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter, it's at knowledge, knowledge, and core fight, and I go to Bet Jordan.
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Yep, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark, I hope you all have a wonderful, dreamy, creamy
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summer.
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And now, here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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I love you.