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Latest revision as of 23:44, 1 March 2025
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying, we are the bad guys, knowledge
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fight.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan, I'm Jordan, we're a couple of dudes
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like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little tiny bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan!
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Jordan.
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I have a quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today?
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My bright spot today is, I don't know, it's hard to find a bright spot, but a friend of
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mine recommended a game called Hades.
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Hades?
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I heard of that!
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's like Diablo, maybe?
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Yeah, I guess.
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A little bit like that.
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I haven't played Diablo.
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I don't know.
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My friend Crane recommended it to me, and it's a lot of fun.
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It's a lot of fun.
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It's a good thing for background...slashin', hackin', doin' the whole thing.
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I don't know.
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It's a good thing for background entertainment.
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I like it.
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That's fantastic.
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Yeah, so I mean like in times where it's tough for a bright spot, we've got another video
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game.
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Yeah.
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What a shock.
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We're inside!
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Yeah.
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How about you?
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I have a bright spot, and also an incredibly dark spot.
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My bright spot is that I found out that my parents had COVID and they survived with no...like,
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they didn't have to go to the hospital.
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That's...that's...
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Fantastic.
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I mean, comparatively?
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Yes.
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Absolutely, yes.
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Compared to the alternative?
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100%.
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The unqualified dark spot, obviously, is that they learned zero from the experiment.
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Absolutely nothing.
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From the experiment, you say?
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I don't mean experiment.
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That implies that you...
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Experience!
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I meant experience, but then I was like, they're all weird.
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But...so...yeah!
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So it's good.
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It's the...they take the good and the bad.
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Yeah, it's good.
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They're not gone.
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No.
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Also, I want to kill them.
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So it's a real difficult situation that they've put me in.
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Yeah, that is tough.
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It's a bind, Dan.
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Yeah, I'm sorry.
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What are you gonna do?
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What are you gonna do?
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At least they're not dead.
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That's true.
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That's nice!
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Yes!
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I'm hanging...it's a bright spot!
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Sure!
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Bright spot!
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Throw tomatoes at them!
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Throw tomatoes.
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Stock going up.
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Going up.
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So, Jordan, today what we've got in front of us is a little bit of an after the action
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report.
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Ah, yes.
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As it were.
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On our last episode, we talked about the coverage on Infowars the day of January 6th.
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Right.
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When some ding-dongs were storming the Capitol building.
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Great day.
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And so today we've got January 7th and 8th, the end of last week, how Alex tried to regroup
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and try to figure out where are we going with this.
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The post-coital bliss, if you will.
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Um, I'm not positive.
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There's a lot of stuff that's going on that I would describe as less than blissful.
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Less than blissful?
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Alright.
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Trying to figure out exactly how we're going to make it through and make this profitable.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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That's a tough fight.
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I'm interested to see what he's got.
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Yeah.
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And we'll get down to business on that here in a second, but before we do, I'd like to
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take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up on our sporting show.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Amphheseum, thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk!
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Thanks, Amphheseum!
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Thank you!
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James modelingectorb, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk!
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Thank you, Trevor!
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Thank you!
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Next, Jayms, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk!
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Thanks, Jayms!
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Thank you!
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Next, George F, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk!
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Thank you very much, George!
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Thank you!
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Next, Nathalie, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks, Nat!
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Thank you!
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Next, Christopher L, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk!
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Thank you, conspiracy of Christopher's!
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Oh, boy.
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No, they have to shorten it up.
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They have to shorten it up? You have to get it? I don't know if that's fair.
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It's part of the entry requirement.
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That's fair!
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It's a holy ritual that the conspiracy of Chris's go on.
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They have to physically chop off the all capitals Christopher and chop it.
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Yeah, yeah, I get you.
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Next, Emily T. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thanks Emily!
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Thank you!
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And then finally, Brandy. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much Brandy. It's Brandy.
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Yeah, not the singer.
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Oh, not Brandy?
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No, the character from the Looking Glass.
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Oh, well thank you very much Brandy!
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Yeah.
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It's good to hear from you. You were inside there for a while.
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There's a port on a western bay that serves a hundred sailors a day.
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A hundred ships a day.
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Love me sailors with their time away thinking about their home.
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I love it when you sing.
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That's a great song.
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Brandy, you're a fine girl. What a good wife you would be.
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But my life, my love, and my lady is the sea.
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Well, yes, naturally.
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So anyway, thank you.
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All right.
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Jordan, today, I think that anybody who's tuning into this show is probably the most interested in,
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or maybe, you know, the most like, what's, you know, because you see things on Twitter.
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People have some primed, and something went around, and that was of course that Alex-
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Yeah, people were wondering what video games you were playing, and you said Hades,
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and then I've actually started it.
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No, let's pack it in then.
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Okay.
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We've given the news report.
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No, on Twitter, there was some stuff going around about Alex interviewing the Q shaman.
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Oh, he did.
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Yes.
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Great.
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Great.
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So this episode-
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Helmet on or off?
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It's hard to tell over the phone.
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This episode will culminate with Alex interviewing the Q shaman.
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Great, great, great.
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And I'll give you this spoiler.
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It doesn't go well.
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Why not?
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You know who it does go well for actually?
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The FBI?
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The Q shaman.
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Okay, that's not good.
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That's not good.
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Turns out, you get the Q shaman on the line with Alex, he sounds not as bad as Alex.
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Okay, so the guy dressed like fucking Dan Aykroyd in Dragnet is gonna kick Alex Jones' ass.
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I'm sorry, let me be a little bit clearer about this.
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Yeah.
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They both sound crazy.
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Okay, well that's fair.
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But, he sounds polite.
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Okay.
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Oh, like Dan Aykroyd in Dragnet.
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Sure.
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So, before we get to this episode, let's listen to a little out of context drop that actually
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I think really, if you've never listened to Alex Jones' show, this almost perfectly sums
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up what it's like to listen to him.
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I'm gonna explain that next segment, baby.
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That is Alex to a T.
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I do like that in a news program.
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You know, a lot of news programs just give you the news.
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Alex at least makes you work for it.
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I got a story, it's huge, I'm gonna explain it to you later.
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Maybe.
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Possibly.
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So, at this point we start on the 7th and Alex has learned that more people have passed
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away in relation to the storming of the Capitol building.
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Correct.
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And also apparently he's doubling down on the It Was Antifa narrative.
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Sure.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, we are here at the epicenter where four US citizens were
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murdered inside and outside the US Capitol by the paramilitary forces there who were
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manipulated and triggered by Antifa evidences mounting that posed as Proud Boys so that
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they would then attack and so they could then trigger part of the crowd, hundreds of thousands
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already massing, to get a small percentage inside the building.
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So this is the way that the ball is gonna break for Alex, it's Antifa, they triggered
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everything by posing as Proud Boys to set things off and I just, I don't know.
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We should have had a contingent in every right-wing propagandist's home like the day after just
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ready to slap, like, oh, say it was Antifa, say it was Antifa, just do it, just one more
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time, just one more time, say it, and then when he does, slap, forever.
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That slap is contingent on the person not being able to explain themselves.
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Yes.
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I don't know, hey, look, if Alex is trying to come on air and say like, hey, facts are
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coming out that this was Antifa.
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Totally.
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I'd like for him to back that up.
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Hey, if you prove it's Antifa, I will believe it's Antifa, Dan.
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Well, he's got some intel that he's gonna repeat.
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I'm keeping an open mind.
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All right.
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Let me read you some of the intel that some of our folks got us here in DC.
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This is from a lot of different sources.
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Antifa and other organizations promoted as always that they would dress in Trump apparel
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to infiltrate the event, which is normal activity for them.
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Members from the security team did an advanced observation of the Capitol grounds prior to
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Trump even arriving to confirm a stage that was set up for the speech and observation
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for a group of 100 to 120 folks already assembled chanting F Antifa, dressed in a manner not
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consistent with that normally seen from Trump supporters.
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Everyone else who came from the event was at the ellipse waiting for Trump's speech.
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They were wearing mainly kind of like gray overalls, arm pads, knee pads.
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Completely different.
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They all kind of look like sons of Congressmen, sons of Senator Kaine was probably there.
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Oh yeah, that's crazy.
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He was arrested here doing felony type stuff.
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In fact, I would guess he was probably there.
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The proof that he's laying out that this was Antifa is that there were people who were
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dressed in a certain way.
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Yeah, they looked a little different.
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Uh, I just, I don't...
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And Tim Kaine's son had a felony one time.
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True.
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So he was probably there.
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He's probably there.
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Everybody who's had a felony was probably there.
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This just is thin.
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Like it's just, it doesn't, and also I would say that him saying that, oh, they were chanting
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fuck Antifa.
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Yeah.
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It's kind of interesting because the night before Owen Schroyer posted that video of
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himself burning a Black Lives Matter flag and everyone was chanting fuck Antifa.
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It really does sound...
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Well, but it sounds like exactly what you all engage in on a fairly regular basis.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You could say that this is Antifa doing an amazing impression of you, or it could be
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people who are in the communities that you run in and it would be impossible to tell
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the difference, I guess.
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I would even argue at that point that if Antifa were at fault behind all of this, they might
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as well just have joined the Proud Boys.
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I don't want them back.
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Fair.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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And so what's going on though is that Alex is recognizing that like, shit, I mean, this
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is too real.
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It happened.
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I can't deny this.
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Yeah, I know.
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We have to lie about it because I told people to do this and then they did it and I don't
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want to get caught.
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Well, we'll get into that because there are a lot of conversations that are going on around
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Alex's behavior on the ground and stuff, and we should discuss that, and we will a little
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bit later when Alex gets into it, but he would much rather be like, ah, this is all staged
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or something.
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But he can't.
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No.
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Because it happened.
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False Flag would be so much better.
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Well, yeah.
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And so it has to be that like, oh yeah, yeah, you know what?
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Some of our people did end up going in there.
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I'm not going to be able to deny that.
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No.
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Because they took pictures and streamed, and Gavin McGinnis was there apparently.
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Look, they got tricked into doing it.
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So that's what Andy said they were coming to do.
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They're all trust fund kids, sons of U.S. senators, sons of Congress people, academics,
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devil worshiping, child molesting, Chicom loving, America hating, trash of the planet.
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And the police got attacked.
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The police got hit.
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They then came out when the crowd saw that and even said, let's get them.
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Some patriots responded because they didn't want to be bullied and got suckered into this.
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That's what happened.
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Trump needs to go on the offense, start exposing this.
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Yeah.
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So that's the way the narrative is starting to take shape.
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Yeah.
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It's not strong.
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So I think that's kind of a struggle there because aren't we also trying to make a what's
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her face into a martyr?
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So was she- Well, Alex by this point has learned that
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she was really into QAnon.
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Right.
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So she can be cut bait.
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Well, no.
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She is, you know, it is a tragedy and it's very sad.
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Sure.
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But she got tricked into doing this by QAnon.
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Okay.
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So now all open warfare on Q. QAnon may also be Antifa or a psyop or something.
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I like this.
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I don't know.
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Let's add this in there.
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I like QAnon being Antifa.
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Let's throw that in there.
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It gets a little murky as these go along.
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Why not?
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They don't have any allegiances.
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Listen to me.
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There's one thing that I know from blowhards and that is they like to talk about how they
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could have averted disasters.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If only they had been there.
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Real Mark Wahlberg situation.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If he was on that plane, there wouldn't have been a 9-11.
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Wouldn't have happened.
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No.
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And we just should have been there.
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I should have been there instead of at the Trump speech.
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In fact, I was tempted to not go to the Trump speech and be at the Capitol.
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I wanted to race down and not wait for Trump and get to the Capitol.
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That's what my gut told me.
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And we could have told people, that's Antifa, we could have tackled them, pulled off their
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mask.
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I would have happened to have been arrested and we would have stopped these pieces of
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filth.
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So yeah, he could have tackled all the Antifa.
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If only Alex had been there.
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Oh boy.
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He could have saved the day.
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That's one of those lies that just elevated to the point of just like, nah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like I'm so far beyond the before you started that lie.
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When you started that lie, I'm just out.
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Yeah.
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And if you go back to yesterday, when your employee said, the Capitol has fallen.
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The Patriots are now in charge.
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It's a new day, Dan.
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Today the Patriots are not in charge.
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So we can't celebrate.
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Shit got too real.
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So that was Antifa.
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Yeah.
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That was Antifa.
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Yeah.
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So I'm interested in their evidence.
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I'm interested in what they're going to bring to the table in terms of like, how are you
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going to show that this is Antifa?
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And Owen Troyer actually has a pretty interesting theory.
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All right.
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Yeah.
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Keep in mind too, that, you know, every time we have these events in DC, you always see
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Antifa and BLM out on the streets.
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They are not anywhere to be seen in this week because they're all wearing Trump gear.
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They're all posing as journalists.
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They're all just infiltrating all the Trump stuff because they have no effect now dressing
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in all black with black block going around, they get their ass kicked by proud boys.
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The police are sick of them.
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So now they pretend to be Patriots, they infiltrate and then they cause all this disruption.
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I didn't see anybody who I decided was Antifa and therefore they must be hidden in plain
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sight dressed like Trump supporters.
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Yeah.
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Therefore they false flagged us.
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This is so weird.
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I have a serious question for you, Dan.
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Are you trying to turn me into some sort of superhero vigilante with a tragic backstory?
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No.
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Because it seems like this is like listening to Owen say that the day after makes me want
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to like dress in all black and train really hard and ninjutsu and then just solve problems
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wherever they are.
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Right.
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Right.
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You know, I'm not trying to do that, but it seems like you're making it happen.
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But if it does happen, I will say that you are required to be able to jump between a
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couple of buildings before you solve any problems.
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Hold on.
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You can't prove it's me.
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The pictures are grainy, Dan.
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There's no evidence that it's me doing any of this.
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I will be I will be your Alfred if you can jump between two buildings before you solve
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anybody else's problem.
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This is why I got to train for at least two or three years.
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You might need a little more than two buildings, two years.
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That's the rule.
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So the name of the game is getting these talking points out into the world and making sure
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that this is the reality that people accept muddy the waters, at least muddying the waters
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is important.
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But the other thing that I think Alex recognizes pretty quickly, and I think he's right, is
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like, this is a great opportunity to try and get some Q people back.
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Some people might be disillusioned by the fact that, like, they went through all this
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trouble.
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Nothing happened.
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And then Trump, I guess, is conceding what what happened to the plan that happened to
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the plan.
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Tell me about those ballots again.
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They were watermarked and Steve also conspicuous in his absence.
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Why?
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No, Steve.
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What?
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We need to talk about talking points based in truth for the president, for America, for
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the world, because we don't have any Patriot communications.
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The president's been cut off, basically.
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The White House is listening to us.
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And it's not because we're powerful.
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It's because Trump is surrounded.
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OK.
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And I keep telling everybody, you think he was great.
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You don't have to do anything.
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Trust the plan.
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Everything's wonderful.
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That's what's gotten us into this position.
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OK.
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I'm not basking if you were a Q person.
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I'm just telling you now that you have to listen to the talking points.
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We have to discuss who was behind this moving now on the offense instead of being on the
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defense.
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This is a nice way to extend an olive branch to any listeners who might have drifted more
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Q than Alex and be like, you can still come back here.
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There's nothing against you if you got into this, because it's all supposed to be asking
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questions.
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This event almost is like a plus one for everybody's media consumption.
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If you were a Q person, you go plus one to Info Wars.
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If you're Info Wars, you go plus one to Fox News.
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And if you're at Fox News, you're like, I have no home, I'll just believe whatever I
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feel like.
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Maybe.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Maybe there's a sort of like a toe back towards, like, away from the extremism.
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For a brief period of time.
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And also for people on their couches.
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Sure.
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Not necessarily the people who were in DC.
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Sure.
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No, no, no.
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That's what I'm referencing.
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Yeah.
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You know.
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Possibly.
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I mean, I think we haven't had enough time to see what the actual effects of it are.
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But the way that I hear Alex talking about this stuff and the way I see him behaving,
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it has the feeling of somebody who sees an opportunity.
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And it's an opportunity to get part of that market share that he lost back from all these
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QAnon folks who think that he is controlled opposition and works for the Mossad or the
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CIA or whatever.
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Right.
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Right, right, right.
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And so, I mean, good.
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Not good.
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But that's what you should be doing from a business standpoint.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Dan, now do you see where the vigilante part comes into this?
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Because if Alex winds up getting more market share out of this and no one stops him, I
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feel like there needs to be some sort of all-black-clad ninjutsu master who has trained for two years
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and can jump exactly two buildings to solve that problem.
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But the way you would solve that problem is by, like, starting your own-
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Ninjutsu!
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No, I'm starting your own right-wing media outlet.
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Okay.
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So not even, like, Judo?
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No, you should steal some of Alex's market share.
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If the problem that you're seeking to solve is that.
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All right.
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Okay.
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So I'll just wear all black and have a radio show at night.
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Yeah, there you go.
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That's the same thing.
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Yeah.
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So the Capitol Police, you know, there's a lot of questions that are going around about
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their preparedness, their lack of preparedness.
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You know, and I think that, you know, we'll learn more in coming days.
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Sure.
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They decided that they were understaffed on purpose because they were working on this
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with Antifa or something.
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Okay.
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Antifa came in, they had the Capitol understaffed on purpose.
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You can see the setup.
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They attacked, the police finally pushed back, Antifa pulls out, the police attacked the
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Patriots, the Patriots attack, and it was all a setup.
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They beautifully played, we need this to be investigated by state police, by citizens,
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by grand juries, by investigative journalists.
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The FBI is not going to do it.
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I mean, I bet Bill Barr was probably in command of this.
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Well, and the state police are going to do anything either.
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They're all funded by Soros and they have Soros DA so they know there's nothing that's
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going to be done.
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Yeah.
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You talked over, but he did say Antifa works for the deep state.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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Hey, far right guys, go fight those cops.
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Go fight them.
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Go do it.
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There are your enemies.
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There are your enemies.
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The left.
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We were Antifa.
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Look, Antifa in this circumstance did exactly what the far right wanted.
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Right?
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Well, if you look at the responses that were going on as it was happening before shit got
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too real.
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Um, yeah, I think, I think it was exactly what, so maybe Antifa has been your ally all
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along and it's the cops who are your enemy.
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Very confusing.
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Yes.
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So, um, after this all went down, um, Trump pretty quickly on the seventh was put, he
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put out that video, uh, where he was like, well, there's going to be a transfer of power
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in a more or less conceding.
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Yeah.
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It was a great little whoopsie doodle moment.
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Yeah.
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And Alex, I think he recognizes that like Trump is running out of allies.
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There are people who are like in his cabinet who are resigning.
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There's just a sense of like, Oh no, everyone hates this guy now.
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And I think Alex sees this as an opportunity.
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What do we do as millions of listeners, as millions of activists with talking points
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and narratives to counter what's happening?
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What pressure do we put on Trump and Congress because Trump's totally been, uh, abandoned
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now.
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Now that sounds bad.
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That's actually good.
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Tell me on this banded by all the snakes around him that now Alex Jones led a March.
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Now we're running the show the next 15 days.
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He can do so much now to counter them.
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Regardless.
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We're going to talk about it in the second hour, but pray for awakening.
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Hey, uh, this aspiring dictator is a isolated and increasingly desperate and this is good
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news because, uh, Hey, uh, everyone else is gone and maybe he'll listen to me now.
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True.
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That does sound right.
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That's fucked.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I guess the good news is that we know the vice president will be like, Hey, don't send
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those nukes.
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Don't do that.
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You don't need, uh, don't send those nukes.
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Oh, that's until Trump 25th amendments him.
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Oh, that'll be interesting.
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That'll be an interesting reversal of fortune.
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Yeah.
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So Alex is kind of obsessed with the 25th amendment stuff and he's decided that Trump
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only released that video where he may or may not have conceded because Pence was threatening
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him, uh, with the 25th amendment.
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That's probably the phones up and take calls specifically on what you think with 13 days
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Trump should do.
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Has he conceded?
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You can read his tweet.
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He said, I think we have the elections stolen.
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I'm not agreeing to this fraud, but I will agree to the peaceful transference of power
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because they told him we got Mike Pence.
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We got the rest of your cabinet.
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They're all cowards.
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Well, 25th amendment, you're asked right now, they only did that because removing him would
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cause a bigger backlash.
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Maybe Trump should force them to do a 25th amendment.
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Not because he's going to not peacefully transfer power, but because it's a fraud.
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So they're scared of the power he still got.
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The feeling that I get there is just denial.
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Yeah.
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That just seems like pretty thick denial.
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Yeah.
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And uh, that denial goes away by the eighth.
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Alex does realize, ah, this is over.
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Yeah.
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On the seventh, there's still a sense of like, oh no, he's just doing this cause there's
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a metaphorical gun to his head.
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He's five stages of griefing.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Gotcha.
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Gotcha.
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And he does get into some anger, which is kind of fun.
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And then more anger when he talks to the Q shaman.
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Was bargaining before anger or after anger?
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Uh, bargaining is the, uh, the ad pivots.
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Oh, so we're, that would make sense that he's always grieving.
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Yeah.
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Keep me on air.
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Yeah.
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And we'll fight the globalists.
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Yeah.
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That's bargaining.
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No, that's fair.
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So Alex has Taylor Hanson back on who was the guy who got some video of the shooting
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in the, in the Capitol.
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Fourth Hanson brother.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Uh, mmm, bop.
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Uh, no.
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Oh, almost a spit take.
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Almost.
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I was almost a spit take.
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You got me.
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Um, I apologize.
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I made that clarification in our last episode that I got it mixed up.
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They're very vague in, uh, or they were on the sixth while they were covering stuff.
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Yeah.
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There are two pieces of video that are going, uh, around and I got the reference wrong on
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them.
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There's one that was shot by info Wars, uh, uh, camera person.
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And then there's some that was shot by Taylor Hanson.
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Right.
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The reason that I got it confused is they never clarify that and they interview Taylor
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Hanson as somebody who got video of the stuff around the time that they're playing the video
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that the info Wars person got.
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Right.
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And they made a, a hasty assumption.
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They weren't helping.
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No, but he's back and, uh, they're really, I get the sense that they're working on a
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narrative where, uh, Chuck Schumer, uh, called for the killing.
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Love it.
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All right.
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Taylor Hanson was there.
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I'm Alex Jones.
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I'm Troyer.
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You were there, uh, when this poor lady, Ashley Babbitt got executed along with three other
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Americans.
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They wanted to tell us their names.
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They're calling us the terrorists, but they were killing us.
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You were there.
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Describe, you talked to her before she died.
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What happened?
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What you witnessed.
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And the fact that you saw Chucky Schumer look like it was his security detail that he was,
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I guess, one of the blood sacrifices we know, remember he threatened Trump.
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He said, have you been abortion?
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We will annihilate you.
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You will pay.
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It was like, well, these are our babies, baby feast.
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He seemed to get really upset.
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Oh yeah.
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Baby feast.
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I would watch that movie.
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I just, is that like boss baby, but lunchtime, a little bit different.
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Oh.
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I don't know, man.
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It's very much not boss baby.
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I don't know.
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I don't find this to be a responsible line for him to be taking.
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It's like trying to imply that Schumer was like, kill her for blood, blood sacrifice.
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Yeah.
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It's very, very shitty.
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It is, it is real weird whenever you're like, Hey, it was Antifa who did all that.
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Now obviously we need to get all the Patriots to kill Chuck Schumer to keep Antifa from
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doing all of that stuff that we wanted to happen, but we said we didn't.
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Yeah.
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It is really almost like a thing you have to diagram in your head.
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The points that are trying to be made are so confusing, but that should be expected
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because you know, people like Taylor are involved as like sources of information and analysis.
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And he's the kind of guy who got into this because of Q.
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I believe Q, like what you were saying, Alex, it was a great thing when it first started,
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you know, it was, it was a way to introduce people to all the evils of what these globalists
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are doing and all this pedophilia, all this satanic worship, all these sacrifices.
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And that's how I personally got red pilled, but it led to me doing more independent research.
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And I think that's, what's great about Q is they do their own research.
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They don't just trust fake news.
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And I think that was a great topic about it, but the real downfall of it was trust the
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plan.
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As you said, you know, you got people staying home when Trump himself are telling them to
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come.
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So he's got a, he got red pilled by QAnon and his only complaint about it is that trust
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the plan idea, which is like, you don't have to get active.
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Right.
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Right.
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But then his comment was that more people should have come on the 6th?
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Apparently, yeah.
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Okay.
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But.
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Okay.
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But what happened was bad.
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Well, no, everything that happened was good except for the part where they went into the
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Capitol.
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Okay.
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And stormed it and did all that stuff.
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So they think that if more people had been there to storm the Capitol.
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No, it wouldn't have happened because they would have seen the Antifa provocateurs.
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Like every single person is a pair of eyes.
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Okay.
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Any one of those pairs of eyes could have been the one that spotted the Antifa provocateurs
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and averted this whole thing.
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All right.
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One man, if one man had been there named Alex Jones, he would have tackled them.
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So it's a percentages thing.
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Something like that.
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I don't know.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Great.
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Great.
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Great.
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Great.
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Great.
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It's like the Antifa pulling a false flag on us.
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Yeah.
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That's the way it's being presented.
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It's really, really frustrating.
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Yeah.
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And it's pretty frustrating too because it's almost one of the first instances I think
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I can think of of Alex showing some vulnerability.
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Like he's just yelling about how Antifa kicked their ass.
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I'm kicking myself because they were gonna false flag.
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They said they were.
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And I was so busy focusing on Trump and a million people that we let them screw us.
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And I don't admit that Antifa kicked our ass and set us up with a gigantic victory because
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I'm proud for him.
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I don't want it to happen next time.
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Well, and the problem was-
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I'm pissed off.
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The problem was it was a million of us there.
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It was a million of us there.
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He does have to piss.
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I'm sorry.
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He just left.
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It's a real angry piggy.
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It's a real angry piggy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, when you're getting older, your prostate gets all inflamed when you get all
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angry, hopped up on so much fucking.
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Yeah.
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A false flag bathroom break.
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Yeah.
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He does actually go to the bathroom.
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And while he's out, Taylor is still there.
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And he's also on the same script, which is this like bringing some of these Q people
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into this fold.
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And I know a lot of people that still believe in Q.
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I mean, I have a lot of friends, you know, I have family that believe in Q, and now you're
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seeing them freak out.
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You know, I was on Twitter scrolling through last night because I was wondering the same
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thing, you know.
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After, I mean, because Trump basically conceded last night.
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He told the entire nation that he's going to turn it over to Joe Biden and he's going
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to be the president of the United States, which is not the plan.
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So these people are freaking out already.
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I mean, yeah, some of them probably are kind of being a little bit biased and wanting to
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trust the plan still, but that's not going to work.
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All it was was a plan to keep us complacent, a plan to not keep us on the streets doing
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activism that can actually make a change and a positive impact to help Donald Trump.
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You guys went home.
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You could have stayed out on the streets.
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It's true.
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You remember in Portland?
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Yeah.
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They stayed out on the streets.
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Antifa didn't stop them.
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But Alex did tell people to respect the curfew.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I think it was Alex who took them off the streets.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I just, I find this all to be really sad.
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Yeah, it is.
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Just sad posturing among right-wing scam artists, trying to stake their claim on victims, you
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know, just trying to stake their claim on people who they can manipulate.
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And it's a bummer.
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It's a reshuffling.
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It's like the tide came in.
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But it's also like, you think about that and it's like, well, it's pretty, it seems pretty
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clear to me looking at this, that it's kind of what's going on.
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Yeah.
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And, and I don't know how you could hear a clip like this and think that any of your
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like preferred right-wing media outlets have any integrity.
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How big is that, Owen, that Obama says, we've got to shut down the alternative media ecosystem.
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They listed Infowars.
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They listed Newsmax, who's not even, they're okay.
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They listed OAN, who's great.
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They listed Gateway Pundit.
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I mean, there's not many people out there.
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Hey, Drudge used to be a great guy, came to studio, knows what's going on.
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Trump wouldn't financially support him or whatever.
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He got, let's CNN buy him out, I'm told.
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My point is there's not many holdouts out there.
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So the entire right-wing media ecosystem was largely driven by Drudge for a very long time.
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For the last, since the Clintons.
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Basically, yes.
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Yeah.
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I remember my dad reading Drudge in the nineties.
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Yeah.
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And it really warped a lot of the media line in shows like Rush and Hannity.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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If it weren't for Drudge, we probably wouldn't be in the same situation we're in.
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It was a clearing house for the talking points of the right-wing.
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And now Alex is suggesting that he doesn't like Trump anymore because Trump wouldn't
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pay him off.
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Yeah.
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What the fuck?
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No, you get it?
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Yeah.
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Because if the president doesn't pay you off for good coverage, then it's your responsibility
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as a principled person to sell to CNN.
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And that will completely alter your coverage.
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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It's all about, look, your integrity never stays... Dan, you know, like if we suddenly
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took a shit ton of money from, I don't know, let's say Jeff Bezos, obviously our coverage
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wouldn't change.
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I'd replace you with an Echo.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Alexa.
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Dan, we love your show.
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We're going to give you $20 million, but that... You know the guy.
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You know, the white... I think maybe get rid of him.
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Jordan, we're going to replace it.
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We're going to transfer his consciousness into Amazon Echo.
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That way we can turn him off.
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Yeah.
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I don't have to say neighbors anymore.
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I can turn the volume.
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Yes, exactly.
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So yeah, I mean, I just... I don't understand how anybody can think that they have any kind
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of... Calling it alternative media is laughable when you're like, Matt Drudge didn't get money
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from Trump, so he- So he sold to CNN.
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Yeah.
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That's alternative.
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So he turned on him.
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Your alternative is the highest bidder?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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In this next clip, I just kept in, because they're just like, no fucking way.
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Alex takes some calls, and this guy, no way.
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No way.
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I got you.
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I hear you.
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And also too, I don't know if these numbers were accurate, but I was watching everything
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live on your radio show yesterday, and congratulations, because this showed that you had 1.6 billion
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viewers.
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And that's amazing.
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Congratulations, man.
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That just warmed my heart.
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I snapshotted it.
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1.6 billion.
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Hold on.
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I'm writing something down.
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I need to add exclamation points real quick.
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It is... The first word is no.
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All right.
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Let me add the second exclamation point, and it is way.
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No way.
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That would be no way.
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No way.
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No way.
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Two exclamation points.
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No way.
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One for each word.
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1.6 billion listeners to Infowars, simultaneous- From where?
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From where?
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It's just a radio show.
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Yeah.
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It's not happening.
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Okay.
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So we end here on this next clip from January 7th, and I got to say, I found this episode
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to be largely unlistenable.
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I really didn't even think it was a show.
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It kind of felt like Alex trying to figure out what the narrative was going to be, and
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it's just like, all right, Antifa did this.
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They tricked us by instigating, and then they went away, and all the Patriots got really
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excited, and they had to fight back because now the police were attacking them.
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He's sort of talking through it to get his bearings about it, and it's not an interesting
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show at all.
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Yeah.
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It's a man licking his wounds in the posture of somebody who won.
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Well, and trying to figure out what's damage control, what's the angle that we can move
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forward with.
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Right.
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Right.
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And at the end of the episode, he's pretty clear that he doesn't really have a problem
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with what happened.
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Yeah, folks.
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America's gone.
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We killed all the babies.
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We devil worshiped, and God took his support away.
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We've got to fight back and take it back, and so I want to say this.
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I'm proud of the folks who went to the Capitol, quite frankly, that Capitol is so evil.
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People under the Declaration of Independence had a right to absolutely burn to the ground.
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I don't support that because I don't think this is my right move.
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I want to take it back politically, but the point is, is that we're not the ones burning
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down police stations and killing people.
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We're responding to that.
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They started it, the globalists started it, and we're not ashamed of anything, and Trump
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should come out and expose Antifa for triggering the riots and stand up against it.
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So that's sort of where we're at.
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I think a lot of people would 100% believe Trump if he just said that it was Antifa.
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Oh, sure.
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I think it would be easy, because remember the address that he gave before the riot?
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I mean the storming of the Capitol building of the United States of America, a nuclear
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power?
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Yeah.
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So he said all those things that were like, I bet it's going to be Antifa who's going
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to take over the Capitol building in just a short period of time, and so this will prove
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him correct.
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I mean, there is a rich tradition of people blaming their enemies for things.
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It does seem very easy to do.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think you're, I mean I hate to say that I think you're right, that you probably could
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pull it off.
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Yeah, that's true.
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To a certain audience.
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Right.
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Right, right, right.
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Which would be 80% of Republicans.
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At this point.
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So Alex, now on the 8th, on Friday, he starts off his show with a bit of a different tone.
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I think he's accepted at this point that Trump has conceded.
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All right, the Globaliscus Info operatives do not want you to take political action.
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They want to freeze you right now, believing everything's fine.
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It's not, Trump is not in a secret location in Texas, he is surrounded in the White House.
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That is not a CG video.
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The president did concede the election yesterday, last night.
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So he is up to speed with reality somewhat.
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Right, right.
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New lines, new text messages from the people who tell him that Trump conceded.
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I believe that they're, you know, I don't keep up to date fully on the Q stuff, but
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it's my understanding that some people were speculating that it was a deep fake or something
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like that.
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Sure, sure.
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I like that.
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The video of Trump conceded.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Alex is not into that.
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At this point, on the 8th, there were pictures coming out, and a lot of the people who were
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there and look very suspicious.
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Antifa.
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Well, maybe.
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But they also seem to be wearing like Oath Keepers shirts, and they kind of look like
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a militia.
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Oh, yeah.
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Who could, who dresses like a militia other than Antifa, Dan?
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Right.
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So Alex has to now incorporate that into the cover of it.
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So Antifa started it, which we've established here on the 7th, and now as we get into the
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8th, Alex has to explain why there's also militia people there doing shit.
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It's tough to explain.
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Oh, it's all Trump's fault.
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Oh, he got the big crowd there to do this.
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No, he was not even done speaking.
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He hadn't even started speaking.
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You were there.
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Before Antifa dressed up as patriots started attacking with another contingent of older
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looking people who I believe will end up being a militia controlled by feds.
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And militias are constitutional.
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They're not bad.
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I'm not saying militias are bad.
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I'm saying they lead them, they set them up, and they create false ones.
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And looking at the MO, the body language, the gear, the behavior, I believe it'll be
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a militia led by feds.
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That's my prime analysis, almost always exactly accurate.
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That sounds almost exactly like what he was saying about the Boston bombing, sort of like,
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oh, I look at the body language on these people, they're like, get the fuck out of here, just
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making shit up.
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Have we heard, how is our boy Stuart Rhodes doing?
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Have we heard from him?
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Also conspicuous in his absence.
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Oh, he's conspicuous in his absence?
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Why?
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I don't know.
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It seems like Alex would want to get him on as an expert.
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I mean, he's the Oathkeeper who could say more than anyone else, those guys are not
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Oathkeepers.
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Yeah, yeah, you could give a full throated defense of his organization.
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Must be Antifa, Oathkeepers are peaceful.
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He seems to maybe not be answering Alex's calls.
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Oh, that's weird.
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There seems to be a limited guest pool that has led Alex to interviewing the Q shaman.
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Yeah, that would get you to where you are.
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On this episode.
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Yeah.
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Alex is really mad at Q stuff on this episode, but he's, again, very much not wanting to
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alienate the Q people.
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You can still redeem yourself basically, but also Q made this happen, this whole fucking
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thing.
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Sure.
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But it's Antifa.
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Well, yes, but Antifa wouldn't have been able to pull it off if it weren't for the dumb
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Q people who stormed the building.
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I want to learn ninjutsu.
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But there was another ingredient that allowed this to happen.
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It wasn't just the Antifa.
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It wasn't just the sheep dipped militia.
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It was the Q.
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The Air Force veteran, a wonderful woman, Mrs. Babbitt, loved her country, believed
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she was storming it under Q orders of the president.
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And so it was the Q people right behind Antifa that did this.
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And that is the facts, it doesn't mean if you like the Q stuff, you're bad.
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It doesn't mean that anything esoteric like, oh, drive your dump truck to the Hoover Dam,
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drive your train off the thing into the ship.
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Hillary secretly in Gitmo, Trump's invincible, Pence is on our side, Attorney General Barr
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is on our side.
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Everything's wonderful.
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Go to sleep.
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Trump's invincible.
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Don't worry about voting.
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And now you see it.
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So there you go.
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Kind of saying Trump is invincible, literally, I don't think any of those things are things
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that Alex hasn't said.
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Pence is on our side.
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That's been a narrative on Infowars for some time.
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Bill Barr would go back and forth, Alex would turn him villain and hero pretty regularly.
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That was hot and cold.
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All over the place.
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That was an intense relationship, yeah.
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I don't think you should be allowed to say that wonderful woman if I know, and you know
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in your heart that if you and your son and Gavin McGinnis were around, you'd be like,
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I know she's dead, but she's got great tits.
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So you don't get to say that.
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That's what I feel like.
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That's just me.
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That's fair.
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So Alex has a source in the media about the fact that Antifa infiltrated the rally.
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And it comes from the old New York Post.
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Bo Brooks and Gaetz, and said they were briefed that Antifa was planning to pose as patriots
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and do it.
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That's what Matt Gaetz gets into as well.
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Well, now we have the New York Post, we can put it on screen, saying two people were arrested.
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They've confirmed we're posing as Make America Great Again people with Make America Great
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Again hats.
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So the headline of this isn't about them being arrested, it says, quote, two known Antifa
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members posed as pro-Trump to infiltrate Capitol riot sources.
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So it's a claim from sources.
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And it's awesome, too, like if you just get to the fourth paragraph of the story, you
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find this.
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Quote, a Washington Times report initially claimed two other protesters were actually
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Philadelphia-based Antifa members, citing a retired military officer with access to
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facial recognition software.
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But the outlet deleted the article after the software company told BuzzFeed News that the
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story was outright false.
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Huh.
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Huh.
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Yeah, so it's kind of an article that has a nice headline for Alex, but it actually
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means nothing.
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Wow.
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Yeah, and he goes on and on about that, how like two people were arrested that are known
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Antifa based on this New York Post story, and I don't know.
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I think I hate this just so much because you can see the conversation that happened.
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Like you can read that and go, oh, okay, here's what happened.
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Somebody went to somebody higher up who was like, oh shit, they did it.
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What do we do?
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What do we do?
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Oh, just put, it was Antifa.
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That's it.
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Like they didn't think about it.
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They didn't come up with some brilliant plan.
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They were just like, just say Antifa did it and we'll wait and see what happens.
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And it's disappointing.
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Probably.
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Yeah.
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So we continue down the road.
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One of the things that is stuck from the seventh into the eighth is that Trump only conceded
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because he had a metaphorical gun to his head Pence threatened the 25th amendment removal
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of Trump yesterday morning and afternoon and said, if you don't go take a message, decrying
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your supporters and decrying the whole thing and saying you'll allow a peaceful transition
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of power to Joe Biden, which he'd already put out as a, as a tweet that morning, we
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are going to remove you.
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We have the cabinet votes right now to remove you under the 25th amendment.
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They were just looking for the excuse only for the pretext.
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So this is the way that you get around the fact that Trump was yelling about how like,
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uh, you know, I'm never going to back down and he's like, all right, yeah, because otherwise
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you kind of gotta be like, oh, he was just full of shit.
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And also it would be a really difficult thing to justify that like, why was, why if he does
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have evidence that this was a false and fraudulent election, why would he ever back down?
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Now he is backing down.
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That would seem to imply that either he was lying or he's the sort of person who would
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allow a fraudulent election to stand.
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It does seem like that.
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And that's tough.
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And the only way around that is, Hey man, Pence, he had a metaphorical gun to his head
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that had a label that said 25th amendment.
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Yeah.
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But Pence's metaphorical gun only happened because you held a literal gun to him.
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You know, they're not going to wrestle with this.
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That's the, I just, I just, it's so frustrating because if like an eco terrorist blew up the
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Capitol building and killed a bunch of people, I wouldn't be like, Hey, listen, we got a
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like, no, goodbye.
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You don't get to do that.
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No.
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Yeah.
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I love the climate too, man.
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But no.
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Yeah.
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It's not hard.
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It doesn't seem like it should be.
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But at the same time, you don't make a lot of money scamming people around the ideas
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of climate change.
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God.
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I should.
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Yeah.
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That's the, that's the thing.
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Alex has a house of cards that he's built, uh, that it can get knocked over, uh, that
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he has to protect.
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Yeah.
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Is Sean King busy?
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I could probably work for him scaring people about, uh, yeah.
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So Alex, uh, was there at the Capitol building for a time on the sixth provably.
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Yes he was.
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And a lot of people were reporting that he was trying to incite a riot.
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Um, and it was my sense from watching the entirety of info wars over the course of the
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day.
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I, what I expressed on our last episode is exactly what I feel.
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He was definitely saying things that look really bad in hindsight, but once shit popped
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off real seriously, I didn't see him inciting people outside of him doing a inciting radio
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show, which is what he does all the fucking time.
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In terms of what he actually did at the Capitol, there wasn't a lot of evidence of that on
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the show itself.
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But Alex does have video of himself and he is trying to talk the crowd down.
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If this video is to be believed as like a full representation of his actions, he seems
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very much like, hey everybody, we have a permit to be over there.
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Everybody go over there.
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And I think like, I mean, look, dude sucks, but that's probably the best you could do
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in that circumstance.
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Sure.
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And so he plays a little bit of that on the show.
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Listen to me, listen to me, we've got a permit on the other side, it's great that this happened,
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but the Trump's not going to come when we've taken this over.
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We're not ampersand, we're not BRO, you're amazing, I love you.
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Let's march around to the other side.
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Let's not fight the police and get the system to run.
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We are peaceful.
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We won this election.
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And as much as I love seeing the Trump flags flying over, if we need to not have the confrontation
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with the police, they're going to make that the story.
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I'm going to march to the other side where we have a stage where we can speak and occupy
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peacefully.
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Tell everybody behind you, march to the other side, march to the other side.
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Alex has the instinct to know in the moment that like, if this gets too much further out
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of hand, we're fucked.
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Yeah.
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This is going to be something that is going, they will take the problem of right wing extremism
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far too seriously if this goes any farther.
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So I have to do my part to deescalate.
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Right.
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And it makes sense.
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It's in his character.
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It's exactly what you would do.
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No, it's the gate of gates all over again.
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She got out of pocket.
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Look, I don't get into that kind of deep source stuff.
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That's dangerous.
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Now, obviously I've incited that, said that, insisted that I do that.
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And because I'm so proud of doing that, I've almost certainly inspired other people to
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do that.
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But that's not my fault.
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No.
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This is his attempt to come back from the edge, as it were.
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He's gotten things this far and you want it to come back or else you're in trouble.
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This mob is all independent contractors.
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I don't, they don't work for info.
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So, like I said, I mean, the sense that I get is he just knows this is too much.
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This is dangerous.
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No, no, no, no.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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No, no, no.
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I mean, that's, that is pretty remarkable.
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This is the snapshot of what happens when exactly what you've been trying to get to
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happen happens.
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And you know that you never wanted that to happen.
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You wanted to live in that in-between state where you can profit off the tension.
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Yeah.
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This sex is supposed to be tantric.
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You're not supposed to come all over the Capitol building.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And what happens is you get on your radio show and you make a lot of money exciting
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people yelling, we're going to storm the state houses, you know, all this shit forever.
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Yeah.
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And then once you're there and it's happening, you get on a bullhorn and you yell, get off
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the building.
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Yeah.
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That's how it goes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We want to do this politically.
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No one knows what that means.
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You don't even know what that means.
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I swear to God, if I am a person who is in the middle of trying to storm a Capitol building
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and some asshole just starts screaming USA and I just like instinctively start chanting
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with, kill me, just kill me.
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I don't want to be that person.
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What if you're climbing on the Capitol building and then you hear the Texan get on the bullhorn
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and say, get off the building.
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You're getting off the building.
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I'm not getting off that building.
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I'm already up there.
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Yeah, probably not.
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You're on a bullhorn.
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You can't tear me down.
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I don't see it being an effective.
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I'm not going to pass that.
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But if I'm on my way to the building, maybe, and I just sit up to chant USA, I guess I
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think I might be a follower, Dan.
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I think I might not be the tip of the spear I thought I was.
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So Alex has a path to victory that he wants to explain to his audience, but he can't quite
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yet.
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You know, I need to do a presentation in here and I'm still working on getting the components
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I need.
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So I'm gonna go to rebroadcast for a while.
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It's no problem.
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And then once I get those components, I'm going to come in here and I'm gonna lay out
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the path to victory.
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So he doesn't end up...
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Maybe.
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I don't think he does do this.
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I didn't hear a path to victory other than blame Antifa.
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Well, Dan, the path to victory is a narrow path.
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Certainly.
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The very few can walk the path to heaven?
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Sure.
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Sure.
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During one of the breaks, it appears that Alex either did or is claiming to have talked
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to Mike Flynn, and he had some news about Trump.
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We are witnessing Satan's full attack, and I have been on the phone with the Flins.
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I have been on the phone with many others.
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You went home.
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Trump is basically in a shell, he is surrounded, and he is basically turning on his supporters
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and has been told that he will be 25th Amendment if he basically says or does anything now.
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So the president of the United States is captured.
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He was buffaloed, he was shanghaied, he was bamboozled.
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This is a good way to jettison Trump, the person from...
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You don't need him anymore, really.
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He has no real use.
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You've already seen him humiliated, basically.
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You've seen him turn tail whenever things got too close to what you want him to support.
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Which is so surprising, yeah.
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You've seen him bend to the whims of the people who are saying, like, you're going to lose
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this election because you lost.
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You're going to leave office.
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I'll leave office.
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Here's what's going to happen.
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He's not the strong man anymore.
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Next week, we are going to find out, and Dan, this is going to blow your mind.
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Did you know that Trump had mob ties?
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Whoa.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We're going to find out.
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I guarantee you that Alex is going to suddenly discover this fact that he absolutely never
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knew before.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Five years later.
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Wild.
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Wild how...
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Did you know that Trump was connected to a lot of mob people?
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I would even argue that that's maybe your way out.
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Did you know that he's...
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Say it was the mob who stopped the Patriots.
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Did you know that he was a front man for consortiums on the East Coast?
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I did not!
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Yeah.
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Did you know that with a name like Corleone, you get arrested, but with Trump, you don't?
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You know, it's almost like somebody who is already enthralled to medium powers would
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very easily be swayed by superpowers.
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Probably.
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Strange.
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So there were, like I said, some deaths at the rally, and, not rally, storming of the
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Capitol.
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And there were a couple of medical-related ones, and there were also a couple of officers.
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There were a couple of cops.
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Right.
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So I assume since Antifa was there, those people went to the Antifa medical tents that
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were set up at every protest that...
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Well, they went to the free kitchen.
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The free...
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's a great place.
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Yeah.
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No.
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Alex is gonna lie about these cops.
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You had a million people in D.C. conservatively that came there.
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You had hundreds of thousands, 300, 400,000 of the Capitol surrounding the whole thing.
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Never seen anything like it.
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And a couple of hundred went in, the police opened the gates, they were downsized that
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day, they were commanded to do it, and then four Patriots got killed, and one police officer
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had a stroke and died.
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So there were actually two cops at the Capitol who are now dead.
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One was Howard Liebengood, who passed away on Saturday, and at this point there's some
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reporting that's calling this an apparent suicide, which is very sad.
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The other is Brian Sicknick, who was assaulted by Trump rioters.
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Neither of these men died from a stroke.
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Alex is making that up to try and deflect from the human toll of his side's actions,
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which he can't acknowledge without kind of ruining this game that he's trying to play.
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Yeah.
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It's very sad.
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It's very sad.
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It's so obvious, this whole back of the blue nonsense, and we support the police, it's
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all cover.
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We just want to kill the left, can't you just let us kill them?
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Yeah, it's meaningless.
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We want to kill Nancy Pelosi, let us kill her!
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So there were only a few hundred people who went into the Capitol building, it's not that
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big a deal.
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Sure.
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Just a couple hundred.
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Wait, what?
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No, no, no, no, no, no!
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It's just a couple hundred people.
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No!
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It's not a big deal.
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No!
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It's just a couple hundred.
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And who were the few hundred?
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Almost all of them were in bearskins and weird outfits, and Danny Crockett-type deals, and
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they had two shirts on saying, I am too, master!
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Guns.
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We got one of these guys coming on, I don't think he's a bad guy, I think he got stuck
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right into it, and I get the doors are open, he's a journalist, go cover it.
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But most of them weren't looting, some people joked around, I wouldn't go in their offices,
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I wouldn't dig through people's mail, that's a federal offense, I don't want my house broke
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into, or my office broken into.
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So there was criminal activity, but they've gone to Josh Hawley's house, they've gone
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to everybody's house, they've come to my house, they've come to Tucker Carlson's house, and
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they come and they threaten people and they engage in this.
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So ladies and gentlemen, now is the time to get prepared and ready, I don't know how long
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we'll even be here in this climate, we've got storeable food ready to ship right now
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at PrepareWithAlex.com, for the biggest, best company out there.
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Pretty smooth.
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Yeah.
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Nice, nice ad, nice ad transition.
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I think these people might be a little flustered.
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I think, you know what, I'm getting a feeling that the far right is trapped in this place
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where they're like, God, we want to kill everybody, and what happened, we want to do again.
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Yeah.
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But we can't do it again if we say we did it the first time.
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It was Antifa.
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It was Antifa.
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Next time's gonna be Antifa 2, by the way.
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But I also have to tell people to do it another time, while at the same time telling people
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not in advance that it will be Antifa who does the thing that they do again.
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And Trump will be president for a second term, even though he conceded, but you know, he
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didn't really, he had a metaphorical gun to his head, and if he did concede...
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We can put literal guns to everybody else's head.
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You should have heard the demonic cackling that came out of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
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Okay, okay.
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As soon as he said, I'm sorry, I'm conceding.
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You saw Harris, and then it looked totally freaked out and criminal, and you saw Biden
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now at the podium just, Harris is like, Jesus, you were so mean to our BLM people, you abused
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them so badly in our Antifa.
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Yeah.
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Oh, we've seen what terrorists, we're gonna arrest all of you, finally, America's mine.
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It's like a little mermaid when she sells her soul or voice.
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And Melissa says, I got you, now you're a slave in the pen.
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Finally, under the pedophile king's control.
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Ursula was the villain in Little Mermaid.
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No, as we know, Alex prefers the bad guys in every movie.
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Maleficent was in Sleeping Beauty.
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Yes.
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And he's got him a little mixed up.
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That's an issue.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, look, dude, there's only a couple hundred people under the Capitol.
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And also, look, dude, I-
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I am-
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Shush.
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... boggled.
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Shush.
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That's a beauty.
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That's a beauty.
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You think that's a beauty?
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It's a beaut.
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You think that?
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Ah, come on.
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It was a few hundred people in the Capitol building.
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If you think that's impressive, wait for this.
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They didn't even really wanna go in.
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The Capitol Police stood down, they were then ordered to let the crowds in that didn't even
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want in because I guess they needed to cover up the hundred Antifa and the other 50 or
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so orange hat guys that let in and did this.
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And it's them breaking the windows out doing it all.
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Yeah, man, the police were told to bring in these people who didn't even really wanna
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come in because they had to cover for Antifa and the orange hat people who are almost certainly
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Proud Boy related.
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Yeah.
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Dan, this is going to require a lot of- like there's gonna be- to find a solution and a
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way out of this problem, which is to say that the right wing is all terrorists.
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It's gonna require a lot of diplomacy, it's gonna require a lot of compromise and thought
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and some concession.
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That's gonna- that's just gonna be true.
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Now, on the other hand, I have watched a lot of superhero movies and they solve things
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by punching-
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Ninjutsu.
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Ninjutsu.
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I'm not saying one way is faster than the other.
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I'm just saying Ninjutsu.
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So we only had a couple hundred people in there, right?
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Whatever.
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I can't hear you say that without stopping.
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They didn't really even wanna go anywhere near the building.
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No, I can't hear you say that part.
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Right.
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But also there's, you know, like, look, they were probably hired gurus.
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I was there, our listeners saw it.
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Our listeners are like hardcore veterans and then retired cops and steel workers-
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Oh yeah, they were there too.
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We saw these skinny jean guys go attack the cops, they finally got the cops to fight back.
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Then these other guys came in as reinforcement.
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These weren't skinny jean guys, they hired some tough guys.
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So these skinny jean guys are the Antifa guys and they hired a group of goons who are much
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stronger than them because they're not strong.
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And so they hired stronger people as backup to fight against the police or something.
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It seems like this would be a job that almost nobody would take.
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In a certain sense, wouldn't that mean that anti-fascists were hiring fascists to do their
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dirty work for them?
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It would imply that.
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Okay.
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Alright.
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Because you would have to be like, if you are that group of, I don't know, bikers,
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let's say.
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Yeah, whatever you want.
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Pick anything.
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You would have to be willing to take a certain amount of money in order to almost certainly
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go on a death mission.
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Yes, that is correct.
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Because you would have to assume you're going to get killed for trying to-
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You're in the Capitol building of the United States of America, a nuclear power.
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Right.
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And you're just doing it as a job.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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What?
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What, five grand?
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No, I don't even get five grand.
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I'll do it for 25.
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Okay.
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I'll take two.
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What kind of gone in 60 seconds kind of nonsense is this?
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It's the perfect crime.
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They have all of the family members of this biker gang kidnapped.
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I don't know.
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What I would just expect asking me to accept is a little bit too much.
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It's a little bit sad.
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Not for my family, Dan.
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They'll buy any old shit.
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So we do get one person who answered Alex's call.
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No Steve Pechenik, no Stuart Rhodes, no Roger Stone.
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Sure.
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Those people seem really important to this moment though.
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Oh, very.
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I want to hear CBP's take on this.
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Someone who's less important though, and maybe that's why he can appear, there's not a lot
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of heat on him, is Joel Skousen.
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He's somebody who can just come and go as he pleases.
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Yes.
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He's notably been somebody who's been harshly critical of Trump, which is why his power
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placement in Info Wars world has dropped a bit over the last few years.
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But now we might be seeing it elevate again.
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And he's anti-communist royalty based on his relation to W. Cleon Skousen.
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And so he shows up and of course everything's a fucking false flag to this guy.
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Sure.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So of course Antifa did it and what have you, but he has proof.
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Well, Joel Skousen does, and he might've got this from another fellow we know named Lionel.
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Well the telltale case is every one of these people had backpacks and in those backpacks
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were gas masks, weapons, mace, or other smoke bombs or other things.
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Look, Trump supporters don't bring those types of things to a rally.
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They had backpacks.
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That's proof.
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Trump supporters don't have backpacks.
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And they don't bring that kind of stuff to rallies.
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That's exclusive to the left.
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This isn't fair.
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No.
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This isn't fair.
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No, it's very dumb.
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This isn't fun.
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I don't like it.
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They're mean.
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It's pretty dumb.
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But this next clip is absolutely mean.
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So Skousen is saying that like, look, there's going to be something really big happening.
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There's going to be a false flag coming that's really big.
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And Alex suggests, well, it's the Q stuff.
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The Q stuff is the false flag that's coming.
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Then Skousen throws Lin Wood under the bus.
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Hell yeah, throw Lin Wood under the bus.
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He's already under the bus.
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He's getting crunchy under that bus.
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Now I would suggest that the things that Skousen takes issue with are very similar to a lot
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of the things Alex says.
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How do you demonize a populist movement?
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That's their goal.
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They admit it.
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Yeah, that's right.
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You do it by these false flag attacks.
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And I'm just trying to portray that it's going to be more than a truck bomb.
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It's going to be more than Oklahoma-Siboney bombing.
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That's been done before.
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I think they're going to try to gin up some large mass revolutionary movements that in
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fact are going to be driven by agent provocateurs, not just anti-B.L.F.
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That's going to be whoever these feds are, these globalists in Q, because they're already
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saying Trump's secretly in Texas.
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He's about to order you to launch your military attacks.
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That is so damn obvious.
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That's right.
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And unfortunately, Lin Wood, Sidney Powell, they're listening to Q. Lin Wood published
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this rumor about the deep state is going to kill Donald Trump and all of his supporters.
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I mean, that's just bullshit.
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Stay there, Joe Skousen.
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Never heard Joe Skousen say BS.
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That's where we're at, folks.
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I'd give a little cut there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, Lin Wood saying that the deep state is going to kill Trump and his supporters
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is such bullshit.
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Such bullshit.
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You're saying that to a guy who's said that a hundred times over the last couple months.
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And in waves, too.
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Not in like a, oh, I'm repeating the same story.
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No, no, no, no, sir.
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There are no reasons that the deep state will be killing Trump very shortly.
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And for quite a while, too, because-
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For a long time.
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You know, there have been Diet Coke poisonings.
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From before he was even inaugurated, they were like, oh, they're going to kill Trump
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on day one.
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They did everything.
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Alex said they were going to nuke the inauguration.
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Of course.
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Yeah.
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Did they do that?
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They're going to fly a helicopter into the podium.
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Oh, man.
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Jesus.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, if Skousen wants to say that Lin Wood's doing his bullshit, then he should
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consider the bookings that he accepts.
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Yeah.
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Now, I won't take this away from Alex.
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Okay.
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Because there's a lot of, there's a lot of, you know, you got to give it up.
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When someone's right, they're right.
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Alex is a newsman at times, and he does sometimes come through with hard hitting scoops.
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All right.
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And I will say that this is something I've not heard reported anywhere else.
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Okay.
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That is giving me hope.
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I can tell you, he's eating at one sitting, two steaks, five lobster tails, giant bowls
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of ice cream, and then eating prime rib as dessert and shoveling down piles of crab as
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dessert.
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And they're going, well, they say he's eating three times we normally eat.
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Well, he's not going to last very long health-wise that way.
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Hard attack!
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Hard attack!
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Hard attack!
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Alex is...
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Hard attack!
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Alex is reporting on Trump's outrageous appetite.
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That is...
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He's eating...
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That is...
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Piles of crab for dessert.
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No, no, he's, he's, I think Skousen is probably the person that I agree with most on this
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show.
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Wow.
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He's not going to last very long like that.
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Yeah.
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And I feel like that is a response too, because it's like, I know you're making that up, but
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I don't want to fight you about it, so I'll just say, well, that's not healthy.
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That's a bummer.
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Yeah.
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He really shouldn't do that.
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So Skousen, one of the things I've noticed that he does a lot is just make stuff up.
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Yeah.
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And what I worry about is, you know, over a hundred of those people have been arrested,
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but all the list of the 36 people they put in, the suspects that they're looking for,
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none of those were the agent provocateurs.
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If they did arrest some of those agent provocateurs, I think they'll be quietly released, because
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you know, the high officer will be told, you know, these are our boys, let them go.
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And that's what you never see because the press won't cover it, the police won't tell
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you.
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Patriots never wear masks.
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The whole thing is, all the guys doing this were wearing masks and backpacks.
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That's right.
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Oh, the backpacks.
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Okay.
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Just so everybody on the right knows, if you were arrested at DC and then let go, you are
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Antifa.
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Probably.
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So let's name them all by name.
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But also the problem with a theory like this, and the problem with the mentality like this
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is like, you'll never hear about it if this thing I'm imagining happens, then you never
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hear about it.
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Oh wow, that theory came true.
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That prediction.
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Yeah.
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Amazing how you managed to predict a thing that didn't happen.
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The fact that you never hear about it is proof of the reality of this conspiracy.
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So I would say that one of the big things, the big takeaways from this interview with
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Skousen is you get Alex pretty much agreeing with him that it's time to move on.
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Trump is useless now.
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He tried to do this little dictator push thing, and he's too weak.
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He gave it a go.
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Yeah.
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I think the Trump movement is really going to be looking for new leadership, and Donald
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Trump's going to be there.
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He's got an ego, I think, that when he recovers from this, I think he's going to try to lead
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the movement.
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I'll debate him.
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But I think we need to look to new leadership.
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I really do.
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I agree.
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And I don't want to be mean to Trump, but him being threatened with the 25th Amendment
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folding like this has wounded him severely.
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And I just think he's going to still be a force and try to act like he can fix the Republican
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Party.
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But again, he never had the intel to do it.
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His kids don't have it other than Don Jr.
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They just don't get it.
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They just don't have the intel.
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Well, that's right.
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Donald Trump's children, you know, and I worry about the Trump legacy, Don Jr. running or
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Ivanka or anything else.
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I think that's going to be bad for them.
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These people have no conservative background.
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They don't have the arguments.
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They're just going to play the movement.
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And they're less sincere, in my opinion, than Donald Trump is.
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I hate you so much.
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Yeah.
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I hate you so much.
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I think Ivanka and Eric, definitely.
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Deep and burning.
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And Don's trying.
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And I don't think, I don't think he's, it's not that Don's dumb.
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He's getting better.
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He just, it takes decades to learn this and he just doesn't have it.
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That's right.
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You've got to be in the movement.
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I've been in this thing for 50, 60 years and I have all my uncle's background and my father's
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background.
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I mean, it just takes a lot of energy to develop an instinct where you can smell evil, where
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you can smell the deep state and its presence.
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And that's what we need to teach people to develop.
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That's right.
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We're not bragging.
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We want to teach people this.
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We need to, exactly.
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We need to teach people how to make stuff up at every turn and call everything fake.
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I just know how it feels to be Don Jr. because I too was a shittier version of my dad and
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I was worse at it.
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My uncle.
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Oh, whatever.
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Um, but yeah, it's a, it's a, yeah, it takes years and years of, you know, just taking
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swings and, and being embarrassed about it to get over that.
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You gotta get rid of your embarrassment.
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You gotta be embarrassed for the first year and then you're free of it and you can say
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whatever you want.
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Yep.
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So, uh, it's like ninjutsu dude.
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Oh boy.
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Skousen is out.
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Um, and uh, now we get to what everyone has probably been waiting for and what I was the
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most interested in on this episode.
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Joining us is a man known as Q shaman.
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Jake the barbarian, I guess was his earlier incantation or incarnation.
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So he's got the Q shaman on.
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He is the guy who, uh, may, you know, all the pictures of the guy in the fur and like
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a helmet.
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He had the horn helmet.
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Yep.
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Um, I don't, I don't know anything about this guy except for that he's the Q shaman and
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that's about all you need to know.
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Really.
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I found, I found out about him whenever somebody said that guy's the Q shaman and I was like,
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I know everything I need to know about this person.
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I heard his name was Q shaman.
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He chose that name and was fine with it and I've worked backwards and I know everything.
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Yeah.
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It's like, uh, if you find out that some guy is the Riverside strangler while he strangles
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people probably by the river.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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That makes sense about that.
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I know enough.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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And the Q shaman is a shaman of Q.
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Oh, it's the night stalker.
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Does he stalk at night?
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I believe he does.
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It's like, uh, Alex plays a clip of him from, uh, the day from, uh, outside the, uh, the
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Capitol building.
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And I don't think Alex pre-watch this because he's saying a lot of the same stuff that Alex
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says and this whole thing was a setup that Alex was going to try and embarrass him and
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try and be like a dick to him.
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Yeah.
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And unfortunately he sounds like Alex.
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Okay.
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We infiltrated, you can't move, but a hundred miles in any direction and you got a deep
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underground base.
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Okay.
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That's pretty much all true.
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The guy could have a talk show.
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He's very well spoken and boy does he know how to get attention in that outfit and, and
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you know, I have some fun with a joker sometimes to get attention, but the Q thing is problematic
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and then he's in there in the middle of all this.
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I say, if you're a journalist, people go to the Capitol, go show what's happening.
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So Alex was ready to play that clip, come back from the other side and be like, can
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you believe this nonsense?
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But he's like, well, I can't argue with any of that.
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Well, I was talking to David Duke and it turns out we agree on a lot of stuff and it's a
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real weird situation that I didn't see this coming.
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Yeah.
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These are the kinds of things you would want producers to help you prepare for.
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Alex, Alex, Alex, you're crazy.
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Well, it turns out that the shaman, who I refuse to call anything but the shaman.
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Why would he have a name?
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His name's Jake something or other.
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Who gives a fuck?
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He got arrested.
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His name's Q shaman.
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He is now, he has now been arrested.
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Put it in all caps.
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I'm a sovereign citizen of Q shaman.
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So he's a listener of Alex's show.
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Of course he is.
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He actually really likes Alex.
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Of course.
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You can just call me Jake, Alex.
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It's an honor to speak with you, sir.
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Okay.
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Well, an honor, I mean, I'm sure you're a great guy.
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You don't go off like a bad guy, but I mean, if you, if you say you're a listener, have
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you heard me warn the stuff that Q is not invincible, that Trump's in a lot of trouble?
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You know, I have heard those warnings, but you know, I'm of the belief that Q is military
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intelligence and I have a lot of faith in the military and military intelligence.
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Okay.
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Well, I was, they couldn't stop you from storming the Capitol building.
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I literally talked to all the top people.
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Okay.
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And they're all surrounded and cut off.
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The tricoms are taken over.
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They tell me we're in desperate straits.
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Ooh.
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See, this is what I find really remarkable about this is that he is one of, I mean, I
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don't know, I don't know how much of there is like uniformity of belief, but a large
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part of the Q world does not like Alex.
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Yeah.
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There used to be someone who's fairly high profile in the Q world who also happens to
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like Alex and it's trying to have this conversation with Alex that he doesn't, I don't think he
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realizes it's a setup.
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He has no idea Alex is trying to be like, ha ha, you're so stupid.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He has no idea.
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He's like, I believe the same thing as you do.
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He's trying to use the shaman as a prop in order to de-legitimize the QAnon stuff as
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part of the continuing, get people back from Q.
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Right.
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This is what Alex could have said immediately, okay, you believe that Q is military intelligence.
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Military intelligence absolutely must have known you were going to be at the Capitol
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building and did not stop you.
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Right.
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But the argument there is that they wanted them to.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So Q betrayed you, Q shaman.
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No, not at all.
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Q shaman loves what happened on the sixth.
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Then it's not bad to fetus to tell America we're in trouble, need the general public
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to get involved.
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You understand that when the general public thinks everything's fine, they don't get
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involved.
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You understand?
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And so there can be a silent takeover because they don't know, then that's a problem.
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Does that make sense?
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Oh, absolutely.
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That's why I'm quite proud of what happened on January 6th.
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Okay.
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Tell us how you're proud of it.
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Tell us what happened.
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Oh God.
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Well, first of all, we are talking about a government that was literally telling people
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when they can open their businesses, when they can see and hug their families, a government
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that is literally affecting the way or trying to affect the way that their citizens breathe.
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This is a problem for Alex because those are all arguments that he himself has made.
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Indeed.
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And now the Q shaman is coming in and explaining to Alex that this is tyranny and I'm proud
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that we stormed the Capitol because we should fight tyranny, which is also something Alex
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should believe.
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So he's Antifa.
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Alex is Antifa.
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I don't know.
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But we're all Antifa, Dan.
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We're deep state Tifa.
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Nothing is not real.
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Also everything is not real.
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This is really complicated for Alex.
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It's a position that I would, if I were him, I wouldn't have put myself in because I don't
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know if there's any way to look decent in this circumstance.
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No, it's not good.
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It's the same thing with like, don't interview Bill Ayers.
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You're not going to win that.
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You're not supposed to be there.
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No, it's a disaster.
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That's not for you.
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That's not for you.
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I know it sounds fun to yell at David Rothschild.
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Of course, you think it's going to be great.
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It's a bad idea.
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You'll look dumb.
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You're kind of an idiot.
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Yeah.
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You're so dumb that the Q shaman looks decent next to you.
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And that's because he likes you.
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And because he, like, I mean, I'm totally against him and I think he, everything I know
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about him I don't support and I think he's wrong.
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All I know is that he's the Q shaman and I agree with you on all points.
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But there is a consistency to the beliefs.
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He believes the same things Alex does and isn't trying to just scam people.
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And that's the tension.
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I mean, it can't come off literally anymore like, hey, Alex, you said you wanted this.
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Yeah.
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I did it.
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Yeah.
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I'm proud of myself for doing it.
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What's going on with you, buddy?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's kind of a gut check for Alex and I don't know if he's enjoying it.
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So Alex is not into the idea of like storming the Capitol.
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Sure.
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He wants an abstract idea, like maybe a new declaration of independence and the shaman's
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not so into that.
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So to me, that sounds like treason on like the highest level.
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And if we have a right for a new declaration of independence, I just think it needs to
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be done if we can't fix things peacefully at the right time, right place.
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You can see how though Trump wants a 10 day investigation of fraud, we were about to get
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it.
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How storming the Capitol screwed all that up.
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Well, I don't quite see it that way, Alex, to be perfectly honest with you.
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I think that if anything, we sent a very clear message to the globalist and to the communist.
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You sent a message.
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There's no clarity of that message.
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Yeah.
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Not there.
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I mean, there's some elements of it that are clear.
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That one's clear.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What was the other one?
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I mean, I'm scared, I guess that's clear.
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That's fair.
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Yeah, I think that the shaman believes that they're up against a treasonous government
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and they sent a very strong message with their actions and Alex can play this game where
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he thinks that there's going to be a new declaration of independence, but shaman doesn't not into
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that.
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And he also doesn't agree with the idea that like, oh, we were going to get the 10 days
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that Rudy Giuliani wanted and you all fucked that up by storming the Capitol.
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And so Alex is trying to get the shaman to accept that the deep state who he's supposed
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to be against, they actually wanted him to do this.
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Here we go.
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You know Antifa helped break down stuff and wanted this to happen.
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I mean, you know, the deep state liked what happens, right?
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Cause I mean, I know you think it showed them who's boss and all the rest of it, but I don't
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think you get my perspective that Trump's now capitulating and all this, I mean, this
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is not good.
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Well, everybody has their opinion, Alex.
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And in all honesty, I understand where you're coming from.
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I just don't quite fully agree with you.
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Do you think Trump's in a secret location in Texas and everything, and it's a CG of
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him capitulating?
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You know, in all honesty, I believe in Occam's razor, Alex, and I only talk about things
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that I know for certain I can prove or things that I know beyond a shadow of a doubt are
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real.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I take issue with that, but it's not worth getting bogged down.
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Yeah.
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I'm just going to scream.
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He's the Q shaman.
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I, you know, it's weird.
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I can almost respect it.
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Like if you do that shit, because what you believe in is that there's a treasonous government
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and you're like, fuck it.
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I can't handle this anymore.
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I'm going to go overthrow the goddamn country.
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And then you stick with it afterwards and you say, I believed that what I was doing
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was right.
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I believed that it's necessary.
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And sure, all of your beliefs are based on bullshit, but at least you believe shit.
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It's indicative, it's indicative of somebody who actually isn't like just playing games
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or somebody who cares a little scarier.
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It's terrifying.
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And at the same time, I can't get around the fact that he's the Q shaman.
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There's that.
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And you wouldn't be doing that kind of stuff unless you were trying to brand, unless you
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were trying to like sell Q shaman shirts or something like that.
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Every revolution has color for characters.
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Yeah.
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But there's, I mean, there's gotta be a grift in here somewhere, but it's far different.
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Just like stancing like that could be, could be dislikes the outfit.
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But I'm just saying, I would, I respect him infinitely more.
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Well, we have to parse respect.
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Oh, well, well respect, I suppose respect is a form of fear.
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I'm more afraid of his bullshit because he's a believer.
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Yeah.
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I wanted to make sure people didn't hear you saying respect and be like thinking you applaud
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or anything.
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It's a, yeah, there, there's a, like at least, at least there's a consistency and I don't
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think Alex was ready for that because I think that he doesn't, he's not used to be people
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who care.
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And I don't think, I think that he thought that this shaman was going to be some idiot
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that he was going to be able to steamroll and he's disagreeing on multiple accounts
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with Alex in a way that is not confrontational, but it's just like, oh, I think we don't see
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eye to eye on that.
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And Alex doesn't like that.
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There's something about underestimating your opponent.
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I heard that you're supposed to do that.
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Is that what you're supposed to do?
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Underestimate all the time.
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It's always helpful.
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Okay.
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So I think that one of the things that I've always felt about QAnon and Alex and their
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relationship with each other is part of Alex's feelings about it are, it's just petty jealousy.
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And like he's furious that everybody is talking about so many of the same things that he always
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had conspiracies about, but they all think that Q uncovered it.
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It's for me.
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I did it.
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Yeah.
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I think he's a little jealous.
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And look, Jake, the barbarian, you're a very well spoken guy.
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Let's think about the Q thing.
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You're talking about the federal reserve, the new world order, secret technologies.
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All this is real.
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But then it's like, oh, Q, Q is why we know about it.
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I know we know about it because of Cleon Skousen, we know about it because of Ron Paul, we know
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about it because of Carole Quigley being a criminal and admitting it all, we know about
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it because of Matt Brackett.
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It's not about the credit.
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We're all public people.
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Sounds like it's about the credit.
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Yeah.
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It feels like the intensity of it really feels like it has something to do with the credit.
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It feels a little bit like that.
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Yeah.
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I don't think that if, let's imagine this is some sort of a fantasy world and QAnon
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did manage to overthrow the world government.
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I don't think Alex would take that as a victory.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If everybody was throwing parties for Q shaman for successfully overthrowing the new world
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order and everyone's like, Alex who?
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But isn't that such like, oh, I want to live in a fascist nightmare so long as I'm on top.
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I don't want to live in a fascist nightmare where Q is running things and I have to listen
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to that asshole.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, Alex doesn't want his right wing fantasy world if it comes with Q.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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So this is the point where things I think really turn in the interview and this is where
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it gets condescending.
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Alex starts being a real dick to Q shaman and it's tough for me to stand up for Q shaman
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because I don't care.
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No, I'm fine with that.
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Be a dick to him.
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But like just from the standpoint of politeness, this is very impolite.
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Go ahead Q shaman.
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Tell me what's coming next then.
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I want to believe it.
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Where is Trump?
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Do you think this is a devastating victory you just had at the Capitol?
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Explain to me and bring me up to the level of a Q shaman.
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Well, first of all, allow me to say that I am not Antifa.
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I am not BLM.
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I know that there's rumors floating around online, probably disinformation agents spreading
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disinformation.
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So start with that.
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I'm a Q supporter, a QAnon, digital soldier of sorts.
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Yeah.
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He's not Antifa.
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And I don't think Alex is necessarily saying that he is.
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I think that he's saying he's fooled by the Antifa provocateurs, but you can hear that
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tone.
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You're a shaman.
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Why don't you tell me about what's going on?
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I feel like I would say it in the very similar tone though.
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But I don't think you would have the interview.
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Oh no, of course not.
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I don't think having this interview is a productive thing to do.
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No, if we were in a bar and I was chained to one of the chairs and had no choice but
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to stay there, Q shaman sat down next to me and he started a conversation.
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Eventually I would get to the point where I'm like, all right, Q shaman, you tell me
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what the fuck Q is up to.
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Yeah, maybe.
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But Alex invited him on the show.
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That's a little bit different.
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I wouldn't invite Q into my home to then yell at him.
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No, but Alex does because he wants to mock the dude.
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What are you?
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Are you a Norseman or are you a Q shaman?
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What are you?
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I am a shamanic practitioner.
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Okay.
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I'm a spiritual warrior.
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And if you really want to know what's really going on, what is really going on is we are
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changing the quantum realm, sir.
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This is spiritual warfare.
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And we understand that DC is built on ley lines, electromagnetic ley lines.
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And we understand that yes, the Satanists, the Luciferians, the globalists, the nihilists,
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the Nazis, these people that have infiltrated our government are practicing black magic.
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They are doing evil, sick, satanic ceremonies and rituals where they're sacrificing children
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and drinking blood and all that stuff.
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And the hub of it is in DC and London and in the Vatican.
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If we understand that these things are like acting like a beacon for this low frequency
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demonic energy.
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Oh shit.
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Okay, brother.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I know the globalists are in the word stuff.
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I'm trying to explain to you.
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Q told us that Trump was invincible and Hillary was in a prison, right?
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Yes.
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I'm saying is that Trump was going to be there in 12 days then?
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I'm answering your question, interrupting.
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So here's the thing.
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Oh shit.
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Q shaman for whatever, I mean, I guess you probably guessed this based on the fact that
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he stormed the Capitol building.
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He has a pretty healthy sense of self.
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Does not give a fuck.
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Pretty intact ego.
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That is well done.
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Alex, I don't know if you know this or not, but I stormed the Capitol building wearing
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assless chaps and a helmet.
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Are you going to interrupt me like I give a fuck about you?
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Your diversionary questions are not important to me.
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I'm going to answer the question that was asked.
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So he's a shaman and you know, whatever.
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I don't begrudge people for, or I don't even look down on the idea of spiritualism or whatever
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practice you want to have.
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That would not be the angle I would take to make fun of this.
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But he does, he does think that they prayed in the Senate and they did some magic.
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So here's the thing, because the Washington DC is built on ley lines, right?
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It's built on the electromagnetic ley lines of the earth.
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When we ended up going to DC, when we were shouting USA, when we're shouting freedom,
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when we're shouting four more years, we are literally affecting the quantum realm.
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We're like pygmies dancing around a fire or, or, or Navajo doing a ghost dance.
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It's going to make the white man go away because sound supersedes electromagnetic activity.
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Okay.
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Now by marching into the Capitol, by the quantum realm in that way, we actually took back the
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Capitol building for God.
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I said a prayer inside the Senate.
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I sang my shamanic song inside the Senate and I broke up all that negative shit.
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It was your shamanic song right now on the air.
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Do you want to talk?
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Cause I'll just let you talk.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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You're telling my God, I'm learning.
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Occam's razor is a shamanic.
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Then do me a favor and let me get finished, my brother.
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I'm going to let you finish.
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Let's get back in church.
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Well, we're now learning the secret of Q power.
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He is a Q priest.
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It is a religion.
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Everything's fine.
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I don't know about all that.
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I think that he can tell that Alex is being a dick to him.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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See now if we're in a bar, I'm still chained to my chair and he's coming back at me with
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that.
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He's like, hi buddy.
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Now we can talk.
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There's some humanity there more than like Alex is going to let me finish my book.
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So at this point, Alex goes the only route that he really knows how to do and that is
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he's just going to decide to make fun of shamanism as a way to attack this guy.
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Don't engage with the things that I agree with.
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Yes.
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Listen dude, shamanism is the oldest religion in the world.
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They use singing, drumming, dancing, and they use elaborate dress, you know, the head dress,
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the face to change the quantum realm through sound, through electromagnetic activity.
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And he has a question for you and he's coming up after I leave.
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If you want to talk to him, hold on.
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I understand magical powers.
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No, it's not about magic, dude.
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We're talking about physics here, Alex.
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We're talking about physics.
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Okay.
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You are a shamanic lizard.
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We get that.
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It's just, it's sad.
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It's not a productive conversation for anybody, but it's because of Alex.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it wouldn't be a productive conversation if the Q shaman was talking to anybody because
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you'd be talking about ley lines and magical- No, it's not magic, Dan.
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I'm sorry, it's physics.
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It's quantum physics.
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Sorry.
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It's quantum entanglement.
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Sorry.
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You know what that means.
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That means whenever an electron from a single atom is paired together with another electron,
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then for some reason, it doesn't matter how far apart they are, ley lines.
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Right.
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I misspoke.
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My point is that it wouldn't be a productive conversation with him and Cronkite.
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No.
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No.
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Or a rock.
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But Alex brought him in for the explicit purpose of trying to impugn Q.
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Yeah.
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And now that isn't working and Alex can't really do anything, which you'd think he would
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be able to.
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Like he knows who Q is.
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Yeah.
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He should be like, I know these people.
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Do you not understand?
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Based on the things that he said, he should be able to completely deconstruct this easily,
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but he can't.
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And so the only thing he can do is make fun of this guy's spirituality.
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And that sucks.
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That's childish.
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It does seem like the easiest way for Alex to go would be like, excuse me, Q shaman.
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You listen to my show, right?
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I told you two months ago that I knew who Q was.
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I threatened to unveil it and then I didn't.
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Yeah.
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So I'm just going to tell you who Q is right now.
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And it's not military intelligence.
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It's Dickface McGee over here.
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Yeah.
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And that would be the end of it.
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I mean, obviously he would be like, that's not true, but then it would just be over.
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You know, you wouldn't have to deal with any more of this whiny shaman bullshit.
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Well, there doesn't need to be any conversation of like, what do you believe?
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What do I believe?
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I know them.
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They're here.
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Exactly.
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Based on what Alex has pretended to be aware of and to know as fact, he shouldn't be having
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any kind of, I believe you believe conversation about this.
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Totally.
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It's something that should be a settled issue for him, frankly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But it doesn't seem to be.
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That's strange.
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And it's really unfortunate to listen to because like the Q shaman is just saying stuff that
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Alex agrees with.
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And so he has to keep interrupting him.
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I'm asking you with your wizard powers, why you were able to know that the Q was the answer.
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Tell me.
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Okay.
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Q is the highest levels of the military and the intelligence community disseminating above
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top secret information to Patriots in our Republic.
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This is full disclosure.
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So we can take back our country from the communists and the globalists who are attempting this
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in prison, so they can bring it down.
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Why does he leave Julian Assange in prison when he's the real Q type person?
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You keep interrupting the hours.
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I love you, dude.
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I love you, but you gotta let me talk about the highest level of military intelligence.
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Tell me more about it.
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Are you waiting for your turn to speak, sir?
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Are you listening?
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Tell me about the highest level of military intelligence.
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Okay.
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Well, I mean, Alex had Zach, his fake insider dude who was supposedly the other Q or whatever.
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Alex has done all this shit.
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All the themes behind what Shaman is saying here are the things that Alex talks about
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all the time.
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Totally.
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Communists and globalists have infiltrated the government, and this is an exposure of
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that.
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It's all exactly the same.
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And Alex can't, he can't attack the meat of it without hurting himself.
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And so he tries to distract with questions about Julian Assange, and then...
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I mean, I would interrupt that spiel too, though.
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That was...
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I'm interrupting anybody who's trying to sell me a timeshare, and if you have rehearsed
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your little bit like that, yeah, you know what you're doing.
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If you invite someone onto your show to sell you a timeshare so you can interrupt them
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to score points about how annoying it is when people try to sell you timeshares, that's
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kind of a dick move.
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Yeah, isn't that Sacha Baron Cohen's job?
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Wow.
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There's more layers to it than that, but yeah.
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So I just see the way that he's describing, the Shaman is describing his beliefs, it's
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just basically a lot of the same stuff that Alex believes, but with a couple of different
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characters.
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Like there's just a different cast.
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Slightly different.
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So Q is military intelligence disseminating above top secret information to patriots in
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our republic so we can take back our country from communists and globalists who have infiltrated
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our government at some of the highest levels so that they could bring America down from
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within.
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This is infiltration instead of engagement.
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They're doing this so they can create a new world order, and they try to get rid of our
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constitution based on their national law.
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I know about the new world order, Q tells us the almighty Q Lord, and you are his priest,
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tells us everything's fine.
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So does the...
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I'm not saying everything's fine, you're interrupting me.
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Put it in my mouth.
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I can't handle this guy.
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I don't know if he's for real or whether he is hiring a kite, Matt Bracken, but this is
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crazy talk.
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It's crazy talk?
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It doesn't sound any different than most of the stuff I hear on Infowars.
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Not at all different.
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No.
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In no way different other than he's saying Q before.
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Yep.
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That's it.
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That's it.
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100% the same thing.
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Yep.
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Wow.
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So Alex decides that the Shaman, this guy's an asshole.
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I hear you.
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Matt Bracken, stay there.
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I'm gonna do five more minutes with you and the guests, and I'm not trying to be mean
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to the guests.
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If Ellen wants to have him on, he's welcome to have him, or if he can have the guy back,
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we'll let him talk.
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Cause it's very entertaining.
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It's just that it's like, I tell this guy like, Hey, I'm dialed into all that stuff.
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Okay.
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And they don't know what's going on.
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Nobody does.
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He's just like, how is all the military intelligence?
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How is all the military intelligence?
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I mean, they don't even, it isn't even like I tell people like real stuff like this is
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going to happen.
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Oh, Trump next week, we'll have a thing on the ellipse that was out for five days.
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It's all real.
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Who cares if you talk to Trump, we talked to the highest levels of military intelligence.
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You know?
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And, and, and so it's just so frustrating to sit there and watch our people wake up,
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but then believe the Charlton garbage.
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This again, just seems like petty jealousy and like, why am I not Q?
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Why am I not as important as Q?
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It's so frustrating to see them buy those t-shirts with Q on it.
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When they could be buying Infowars branded pills.
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And they could be buying.
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It's disgusting to see people wake up wearing a shirt with Q on it instead of taking two
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of these pills.
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They could buy my duct tape that I bought, the stickers that I told them to put over
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your mouth that say, I am Q.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Totally.
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Totally.
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What are you doing wearing a shirt?
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This goes over your mouth.
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It's a shirt for your mouth.
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Yeah.
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So Alex has now turned the corner.
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I really don't think that he likes this guy at all.
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It's unfortunate because the guy has been very nice to Alex so far, but Owen wants
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to clear up one thing.
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Cause he's, he's now in studio cause he's going to be taking over the fourth hour.
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Matt Bracken is also there hanging out just for moral support, I guess.
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Owen wants to know like, Hey man, people found an acting profile about you.
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Are you an actor?
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I just want to address, you obviously said you're not antifa.
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I don't think you're antifa.
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The other thing people want to know about you is are you an actor?
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They found a profile that says you went to an acting school.
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So they think you're acting and this whole thing is just an act.
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So would you like to address that?
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Abso-freaking-lutely.
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Okay.
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So the whole reason why I have an acting profile is because I worked with children for five
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and a half years in group homes, traumatized children.
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And I got chased out of the home with a knife by one of the kids that pulled it out of a
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locked cabinet.
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And I decided that I wanted to do something a little bit more fun.
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So I went into business for myself.
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I developed my own website, my own YouTube.
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I started writing books and I thought about, well, maybe I'll give acting a shot to earn
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a little bit of money on the side.
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I haven't made any money as an actor.
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I never got anywhere.
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You're not an actor.
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We got that.
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And they say I say I'm an actor because I've been in a few movies, it's a total bull.
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Right.
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He was almost in Guardians of the Galaxy.
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True.
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He was going to be Star-Lord.
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He was going to be Star-Lord.
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So close.
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He's so close.
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He just wouldn't worship the devils and he wouldn't let them do it.
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He wouldn't take too much money for it.
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Yeah.
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So, hard-hitting questions there to dispel internet conspiracies that won't go away because
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this guy said he's not an actor on Alex Jones' show.
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No, no, no.
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Completely a waste of time.
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No, no, no.
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Alex and Infowars' followers are well known for, if somebody says they're not an actor,
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believing them.
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So Alex is taking the approach that he's sort of trying to shame and belittle the Q shaman.
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And I would argue that somebody who makes their business going around to protests dressed
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that ridiculously for the sake of getting attention, you're not going to be able to
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shame them.
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You can't embarrass them.
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I would be surprised if you could.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't work.
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Listen, you're a Q wizard, okay?
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I'm asking you, does Trump end in 12 days?
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Does Trump what?
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What happens to Trump?
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Q knows everything.
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You know military intelligence.
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What happens to Trump?
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Well, you know what, man?
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All I can say is I think that Donald Trump is a part of a much larger plan, whether that
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be a military plan, whether that be God's plan.
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I think that when you look at harmonics, when you look into the way that energy, frequency
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and vibration basically create and move all physical form, all matter, then we're all
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playing a part in a much larger, grander scheme, a much larger, I'm not saying there's no harmonics
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and greater schemes.
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And then terrible stuff.
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I know all that.
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But I'm saying, hold on, hold on.
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I'll let you talk.
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But I got to say this.
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I got to say this, but Q told us Trump was invincible and everybody was going to get
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hit, though, so I'm saying Q leads us once Trump's gone still is what you're saying.
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What I'm saying, and this is you putting words in my mouth again, Alex, what I'm saying is
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that Donald Trump is a part of a much larger plan to help us take back our country from
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globalists and communists.
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He's the baby toe of military intelligence, aren't you?
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But Alex has said that, too.
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Yeah.
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A bunch.
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And of course, this leads to its natural conclusion, which is Alex is going to blow up and yell
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at this guy.
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Have a little hissy fit.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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And I just don't know what actual difference there is between their beliefs.
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Donald Trump has played a very pivotal role in exposing the globalists and the cabal,
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exposing the Chinese and the communists and the way that they've infiltrated our government,
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the way they've infiltrated our media, the way they've infiltrated our entertainment,
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the way they've infiltrated all that.
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We broke all that.
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We know that.
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I'm saying Q tells us stuff and all of its lies is what I'm saying.
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You keep interrupting me because you're lying god damn thing out of your people's mouth
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doesn't come true.
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And it's always, oh, there's energy and oh, now we're done with Trump.
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You said he was the Messiah.
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You said he was invincible.
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You said it was all over.
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They were all going to get more.
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Now, oh, he's part of a larger thing of Q.
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I will not suffer your Q people after this.
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I knew what you were day one, I know what you are now, and I'm sick of it.
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I'm sick of all these witches and warlocks and pumpkin popsums and everything.
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Sorry.
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Bye bye Q, I can't talk to you anymore, Jesus, Lord help me.
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That was an uncalled for response, I would say.
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Dan, if he's sick of those witches, I think it's time to call Larry Nichols.
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Yeah.
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Um, I think that, you know, I don't know if Alex had the same preoccupation with Guantanamo
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Bay as the Q folks did, but he definitely had a lot of like, they're about to get arrested
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kind of bullshit.
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They're going to jail soon.
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Trump is invincible is certainly like a theme of...
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I mean, he's literally chosen by God to defeat the devil.
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Alex has said that a whole bunch of times.
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There's not a lot of light between these two ideologies.
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And I think that one of the reasons that Alex does do that fake blowing up there is because
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I think it's like the way he's presented Q and QAnon stuff is very different than what
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this guy is bringing to the table.
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And for the audience to become aware that like, oh no, they're not all crazy the way
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that Alex wants you to think.
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There's talk about the Federal Reserve.
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There's talk about these deep underground bases.
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There's demons.
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Hey, I like that.
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The elites are sacrificing kids and drinking their blood.
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Alex is in on that.
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Maybe there's something I should look into here.
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Alex runs the risk of this blowing up right in his face.
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If you get to see clearly that they're pretty similar.
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I think I would also argue that there's nothing Alex hates more than a mirror, especially
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one that's younger than him.
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Like that's... because listen to the way he's talking, he's rambling, he's saying all kinds
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of nonsense.
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He's rattling off bullshit that he's memorized.
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He's unwilling to be interrupted for any stretch, for any reason.
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He's claiming his space.
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Exactly.
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This is an... like this dude is a person who loves Alex Jones.
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Who has developed much of his persona clearly around his love of Alex Jones.
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Yeah, it's at least a strong influence.
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No one hates Alex, maybe, more than Alex.
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And no one hates people who like Alex, more than Alex.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But you know what?
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Owen kind of likes the shaman.
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Ugh.
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I want to believe that they'll never, when they're wrong, say they're wrong.
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Oh no, Trump's a small part of the larger Q universe.
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Ninjutsu.
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Ninjutsu.
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Really?
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No, you're full of crap.
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Ninjutsu.
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We don't want your last word.
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Oh!
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Oh!
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Oh!
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Only if it...
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Is he Q?
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We have Q on the line.
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Yeah, sure, we'll get a last word from Lord Q on the other side.
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So they go to commercial break, and they come back, and Alex is true to his word.
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He is going to give the shaman a last word.
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Alright, I'm gonna be nice to the Q sorcerer, Q wizard, no no, the official name is the
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Q shaman.
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He's hopping mad at me.
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But people started to recognize something, as soon as I showed up at the Capitol two
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days ago, Owen was right beside me, he disappeared for several hours in a phone booth and came
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out as the Q wizard.
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Good bit.
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That's the bit, huh?
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Oh boy.
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I would say that he's right to be really mad at him.
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Yeah.
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And so he does get his last word, the shaman gets his last word, and it's just a long plug
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for his Rumble page, because he's not allowed on YouTube.
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Sure, well yeah.
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And then Alex calls him a lightweight.
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I got stuff on there exposing the UN, I got stuff on there about aliens and the truth
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about aliens and where aliens come from, how they're actually inter-dimensional beings,
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just as much as they are like, quote unquote, extraterrestrial beings, I've got a video
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on there called Just Take the Red Pill, that's five and a half hours, that if you really
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want to know everything that there really is to know to get caught up to speed here
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and now, all you have to do is just watch that one video and it'll explain a whole lot
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of things that most people don't understand.
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That's two end games.
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Okay, that's enough.
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I've heard the plug about you, you didn't counter anything we said, the whole cube image
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looks completely full of crap and has been full of crap the entire time, it's a big
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sick joke on us, it probably just cost us the country.
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Thanks for the call.
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I mean, I just, I cannot, Matt Bragg, you had to sit through 20 minutes of that insufferable
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garbage, and I'm not trying, he's a well-meaning person, but he's a lightweight man.
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It's all this Harry Potter, hocus pocus crap, and we're in the real world.
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I'm like, I'm not going to tell this guy what's going on, because he can't even handle
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it, but it's, he just doesn't get it, does he?
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All this Harry Potter crap, and now I'm going to talk to you about the devil.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, the shaman who's dealing with ley lines and quantum
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physics just can't handle it?
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Can't handle it.
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I think he could handle it.
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No, Alex, Alex wants to give the appearance that he has something deeper, but if he was
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forced to actually talk about it, it would be like when he's on Rogan and he realized
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like, oh, he doesn't really have anything.
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He doesn't know anything.
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No.
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God.
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That's really a dumb thing to do.
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I hate him so much.
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Alex is not good at confrontational interviews with sincere people, because they aren't running
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a scam that they care about what Alex thinks about.
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You know, like there's probably some emotional level that the Q shaman would like to have
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a positive exchange with Alex.
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He looks up to him, but he also isn't invested in the Infowars scam in the same way that
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all of Alex's guests are.
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Matt Bracken has no other like media outlet that will ever talk to him.
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No one gives a fuck about him except for Alex.
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And so he's part of the game.
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Owen Troyer works, everybody that he talks to is at least in some way, um...
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Transactional.
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Yeah.
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There's a power dynamic.
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Either Alex is higher or lower.
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Everybody knows where they stand.
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Everybody knows that they're working towards the shared goal of grifting.
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And Alex can work really well in that space.
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Or at least he can operate there because people know not to contradict him, not to get too
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out of line.
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If he interrupts you, just roll with it.
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But yeah, you got someone like the Q shaman, and he thinks that he is higher on the totem
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pole.
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The power dynamic is different.
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He just stormed the Capitol.
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I bet that dude's riding a wave of adrenaline that is still going.
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Well, he's in jail now, so...
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Yeah, and I bet he's fucking flying off the walls.
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Yeah, it's complicated.
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There's a power imbalance, but it's, uh, uh...
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Perceptional.
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Yeah.
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They each think that they're the top dog on this call, and it infuriates Alex.
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Yeah, I imagine that the Q shaman thought he was doing a victory lap.
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You know, I just got the most national attention, worldwide attention, my picture's on the world
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right now, so Alex Jones is calling me because I'm fucking famous.
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Yeah, and maybe we have some slight disagreements, but we can work that out.
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And I'm a fan of his, so I'll charm him up top, we'll have a nice little conversation.
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He's a rational guy.
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We agree with each other on everything.
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Why would he not take me at my word as a sincere person?
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We agree on literally everything about the globalists and the blood drinking and the
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Chinese and the communists.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, Alex.
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Hold on, are you saying that I can't trust far-right media figures because they will
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cut bait and abandon me as soon as I'm not useful to them?
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Uh-oh.
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Uh-oh.
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I might need to rethink.
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Nothing!
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I mean, and also, not for nothing, Alex is far from the only person who's shitting on
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this dude for doing exactly what...
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They want to do.
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Yeah.
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And they were told to do.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's kind of...
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Ugh.
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It's kind of like the most predictable thing ever.
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I wonder if anybody had said that this would happen.
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So Alex, look, if he was there, things would have gone differently.
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He probably would have tackled the Q shaman.
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Sure.
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We had a rally.
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Trump won it.
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We had other rallies.
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They were great.
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I'm like, oh, the Capitol Police will handle it.
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Yeah, Antifa says they're coming to disrupt.
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They'll handle it.
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And we should have been down there.
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If I'd have been there with 20 of our guys, we would have stopped this.
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Yeah, man.
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We would have stopped it.
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If I and 20 guys...
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Of our guys.
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Of our guys, who are specifically very large, I hired them from the same people that Antifa
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hired from.
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If 20 of our guys couldn't get 20 of them because they were busy at the time.
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Yeah, they were hired by Antifa.
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I mean, no, okay.
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So we have one last clip here from the 8th, and in the same way that the out of context
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drop that I'll get to this next segment, maybe, is a perfect, just boiled down Alex Jones
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moment.
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Sure.
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This minute is this is Alex right here, baby.
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The Sunday show, 4 to 6 p.m., ahead of the great job you're doing, Sunday live, that's
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6 to 8, with only six minutes of ads an hour.
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We've cut it to just local ads for radio and TV stations.
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We've cut our ads.
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And if I wasn't partnered with GCN, who are wonderful people, I would cut us from the
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14 minute ads.
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It's customary and talk radio, you know, to to less just for locals.
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But I love to have that.
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I'm working on just having local ads for you folks and cutting it to six, seven minutes
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of ads an hour just for local stations.
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I wonder why our plugs once an hour live on air.
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I'm about to right now.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we've proven we're the tip of the spear.
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We've proven that we're dialed in to as much as you can learn.
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And believe me, you learn nobody's in control.
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But God, the devil's trying to be in control.
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He's not in control.
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And man's trying to control.
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That's a joke.
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So gzping and communism claiming government can be God's a lie.
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Q claiming everything's great and everybody's got a plan.
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That's a lie.
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The only plan is Jesus Christ plan.
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I'm here to tell you that only trust in God.
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That's the only perfect thing there is in full work store dot com, though, gives you
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what God created.
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Our official that's good.
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Give it to me.
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Yeah.
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Inject that into my veins.
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That's the kind of ad pivot that will give you an overdose.
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You don't have to.
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Yeah.
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Damn.
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There's so many awesome layers to that.
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It starts with him talking about wanting to have less commercials on the show.
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Sure.
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And then he's wanting to definitely not.
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Right.
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Ted Anderson won't let him.
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Yeah.
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Interesting.
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That business relationship.
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Sure.
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But then he's like, you know, we do our ads on the show, like I'm about to do.
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Yeah.
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Then he starts talking about how God's plan is.
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So that was intended to be part of the plot.
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Indeed.
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And you trust God's plan and it in for store.
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What do you get?
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All the stuff that got me.
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Oh, baby.
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Like krill oil.
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I don't know if you can possibly take the like by definition of those like those words
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like there were 10 of them.
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Pretty important to people who love the Bible.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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I'm fairly certain that you cannot take God's name in vain more than he just did.
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I think that's the most you can do.
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There was some vainness to it.
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There is a little bit of vainness there.
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Yeah.
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So I find I find this stretch right after the storming of the Capitol at the end of
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last week.
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Kind of interesting, but also kind of kind of I don't know.
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I guess what you'd expect.
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You know, it is it is.
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Sorry.
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I want to sorry to regress for one second.
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No, no.
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Go ahead.
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I would like you to play just the short clip of him saying, we've proven that we're the
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tip of the spear right next to go home, go home curfew, go home respect to the curfew.
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Exactly.
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Tom Papert saying he sent his reporters home.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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The women.
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Yeah.
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We've proven where the tip is.
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Sorry.
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Sorry for interrupting you.
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Oh no, that's fine.
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I just needed to be to get that out.
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I would be lying if I said that any of this surprised me.
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Like Alex's behavior is very predictable.
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You know, you want you want the ride to the the storming.
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You don't want the storming to actually happen.
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He needs that that that state prior to conflagration to make money off of because let's say they
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had set fire to the Capitol building.
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Right.
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Then it investigations would be very crippling to to to right wing organizations, militias
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figures.
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Not good.
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You know, if more people had died, it certainly would be far more serious.
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And Alex can't profit in that that ecosystem, that environment.
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And so obviously this is, you know, put the blame on somebody else.
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This is a false flag because they were scared of how close we were to getting that 10 days
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that Rudy wanted and we'd overturn the election.
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Yeah.
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And also at the same time, Trump has shown his ass.
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And so he's too weak and we need to look for new leadership.
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It's it's all very predictable.
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Yeah.
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It's just so brutal.
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It's so brutal that the tactic after this is not because it's it's so obvious.
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Like all right.
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You see the way acts now and you work backwards and you go, oh, obviously he wants to rile
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people up into a state of constant fury and then that will get him money.
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Their emotional connection will get him money.
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And then when they did something, he realized that that would cost him money.
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And so he stopped, he changed his mind, quote unquote.
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He betrayed us.
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And so we can't trust him anymore.
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And instead it's just, how about I throw two different types of cognitive dissonance at
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you all the time into your brain so much and so hard that you can't even see through that
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I'm obviously in this for money.
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Yeah.
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How can you not see through that?
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How could you not see through when he says like God's plan is the only one that's real
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and info restore.
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You can get what God gave you.
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I mean, how could you not like think this guy is a fucking asshole?
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Totally.
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Now that I agree with you, but you know what?
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Peace time is peace time.
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People are fucking lazy and full of shit.
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This was a day after the goddamn storming of the Capitol.
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Two.
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Two days after.
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Day and two days.
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That should be fresh enough into your mind to where you go, oh, I got knocked out of
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the head space that I was normally in and it's just nothing.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, we saw how quickly he went to like, first of all, calling Sandy Hook a false
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flag.
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Yeah.
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We saw how quickly the Boston bombing became a conspiracy and it makes sense.
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Like the fact that this is a giant event.
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Sure.
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And I honestly don't.
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But he wasn't leading the Boston bombing and he wasn't at Sandy Hook.
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He was there.
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But that's, that's what makes it even more critical for him to make it a false flag.
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Yeah.
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A good thing that went bad because of the trickery of Antifa.
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Yeah.
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He has an even greater connection to it.
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But that, that again, this goes to one of the other theses that I have.
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And that is that one of the primary ways that Alex makes money is by profiting off of and
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exploiting tragedy.
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Yeah.
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And this is a tragedy.
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No matter what, like ends up coming from it.
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And I don't think that we have fully processed the reality of the last week.
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Oh no, absolutely.
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And I don't think that you could, I just don't.
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It's staggering and almost surreal.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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And nothing good.
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It's not good.
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No.
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And that is the kind of thing that Alex can make money off of.
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The only thing I would say I was kind of surprised about is the turning tack a little bit about
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the woman who got shot.
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Yeah.
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I don't think that I felt him martyr building as much as he was the day of.
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Well, you can't martyr build and deescalate.
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You can only do one or the other.
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Once you got a martyr, you're going up.
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It does.
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There's no going back.
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It does seem that way.
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And I think the fact that she was really into Q kind of hurt his ability to create the perfect
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figure out of that.
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Yeah.
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You can't scream at how stupid Q shaman is and then be like, this Q believer is also
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our new Virgin Mary.
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Yeah.
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You can turn them into a figure of empathy and reverence.
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Yeah.
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And the path that they were going down on the sixth couldn't be continued.
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Anyway, I have a feeling that shit's going to be bad this week.
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If the plan or the thing that's been speculated is that there may be another impeachment article
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coming down on Monday.
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And if that's the case, then I would expect that Alex is going to have some choice words
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about that.
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And so we'll see what happens.
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But I don't look, I don't, I don't see by future prospects of relaxing being that good.
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I do love how stupid America is.
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Yeah.
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It's incredibly stupid.
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It's so unbelievably, ridiculously stupid to stop for one second and think on Wednesday,
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the president had cited a riot and people stormed the Capitol building.
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So because of this action, we will swiftly draw up articles of impeachment, which we
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will absolutely be delivering to the Senate 100 days after Biden's inauguration, thus
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solving the problem once and for all.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I don't know what else you do, but I don't, I don't, well, you got a couple of
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years.
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All right.
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So we'll be back.
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But until then Jordan, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight not go to pet Jordan.
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We're also on Facebook.
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If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people
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doing God's work right now.
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Oh, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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I'm Daryl Rundis.
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I, if I had 21 guys, I could defeat Alex and 20 guys.
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Maybe not.
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Probably not.
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I'm not really much help.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.