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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around,

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drink novelty beverages,

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan!

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Jordan.

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Quick question for ya.

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today?

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Well, not plant related, but I was at the store

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the other day.

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Gonna take it back.

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I was at the grocery store, feeling down,

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and I looked over to my left, looked over to my right,

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and what did I see on the salad dressing aisle,

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but Italian dressing from Olive Garden.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yup.

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And so I bought some, and it's really good.

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It's really good, it's great.

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Of course it is.

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Of course you love it.

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Of course you love it.

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I haven't been to Olive Garden in forever.

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It's been a very long time.

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I don't think it's probably actually even that good.

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No, of course not.

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But there's just something about that, that dress.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's childhood.

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That's what it is.

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No, it's not.

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I never went to Olive Garden.

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You never went to Olive Garden as a child?

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I think I went, the first time I went probably

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was like when I was 18, 19.

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Oh.

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Oh man, wow, I thought the dressing backdoored

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because of the free breadsticks.

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That's the only reason people wind up liking that.

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No, we went to like Fazoli's generally

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when I was in high school for the free breadsticks.

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They were easier to scam.

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Yeah.

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Because at Olive Garden you'd still have to buy something.

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That's true, that's true.

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At Fazoli's you could just buy a drink.

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Ooh, and still get free breadsticks?

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Oh, well that's thievery.

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Yeah.

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That's essentially.

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I mean, we were in high school.

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Wow, that's great.

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You know, we're poor, we want something,

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we want some breadsticks.

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You need breadsticks.

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Want garlic?

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Sometimes, it's just life.

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Yeah, so I want to drink this Italian dress, quite frankly.

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So yeah, I've been going crazy with Italian dressing.

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All right, I like it.

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How about you?

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My bright spot is, Dan, you know,

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I've talked about music in the past, I kind of like it.

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I was listening to music and then I came upon

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Seger Rose once more and I was listening to the Seger Rose

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and I remember that the greatest concert

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that I've ever been to,

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when I was 18, I went and saw them at the Chicago Theater.

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Round about the time I got some Olive Garden.

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It was on the TAC tour after they just released the album.

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Incredible, greatest concert of my life.

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It's my bright spot because as you know,

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I don't like to deal with my memories too much.

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I like to keep them in boxes.

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So you had a nice memory.

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I got it, yeah, I had a nice memory.

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It's been a while since I've had one of those.

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Much like my memory of Olive Garden Italian dressing.

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Exactly, see, we're doing it.

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We're nostalgic right now.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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So Jordan, today we got an interesting episode to go over.

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I, after our last episode on Monday,

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could not handle more of Alex.

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No.

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So I needed a little bit of a break.

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Thank you, yeah.

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And got some interesting situation going on here.

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All right.

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So I went to Project Camelot's YouTube page.

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Of course.

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Because I'm constantly just being like, come back.

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Maybe, maybe today, maybe today's the day.

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Maybe she's like, this paywall thing isn't working.

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I got to go back to YouTube.

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I think it might not be working.

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Because the last two, there's two new episodes

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that were on YouTube.

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Both released for free.

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Yes.

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But they weren't on topics that I think

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are interesting at all.

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Oh, shit.

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But that is a sign that maybe the next time

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she goes and talks to Mark Richards,

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we might still have access to it.

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Oh, that's going to be YouTube.

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That's going to be YouTube for sure.

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I would think so.

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Yeah, it's got to be.

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And actually today, thankfully,

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I was looking at our email,

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and I'd gotten an email from Robert W.

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Okay.

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And he'd sent in a little bit of a suggestion

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for something to fill the gap of Project Camelot.

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All right.

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And that is a show called Unexplained with Howard Hughes.

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Okay, Howard Hughes.

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But it's a different Howard Hughes

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than the Spruce Goose guy.

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What happened to him?

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Is he okay?

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Bad news.

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He's hanging out with John DeGrasse Tyson.

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Oh, no.

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So Robert had sent me this recommendation,

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and I was scrolling through the people

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who've been guests on this show out of the UK.

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Real, real cool British announcer guy.

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All right.

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And there's some people like John Rappaport.

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There's some people like Gerald Cilente.

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Got to have him.

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And, you know, so there's a lot of,

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there's some Infowars adjacency here.

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We've been all over.

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There's some David Icke on there too.

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Of course, any weirdo show you have,

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David Icke's going to show up eventually.

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But I found one episode that I thought,

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like, I've never listened to this guy.

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I don't know his product.

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I don't know anything about this.

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Uh-huh.

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This, if we're going to do a trial balloon episode,

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this will be the one.

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It's not Mark Richards.

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All right.

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I hope not.

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No, he is not from the UK but able to.

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Are they giving him Skype access now?

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I don't think that's good.

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No.

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So we're going to get into this,

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but before we do, we've got to take a little moment

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to say thank you to the folks who signed up

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and are supporting the show.

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Oh, I think that's a great idea.

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Yeah, so first, Paul F., thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Paul.

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Thank you.

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Next, Tyler Raymond B., thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much, Tyler.

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Thank you.

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Next, freeze frame, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much, Freeze Frame.

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Freeze Frame.

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Freeze Frame.

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It's like that song.

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It is like that song.

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Next, Michael P, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much, Michael.

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Thank you.

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Next, Josh M., thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thanks, Josh.

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Thank you.

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Next, niczsmash and it's N-I-C-C-Smash.

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Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you

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Next Angus. I thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much Angus

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I that's that's like a Robert

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Shit now, I can't remember his name. Oh, oh man, my English literature is frost. All right. No, it's not rubber

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It's a Scottish god damn it. I'm a failure

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Anyways, that would be the name of one of his poems Angus. Come on boy. Hi

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It was a lot if I had gotten there first, it would have been no Joyce didn't write poetry. God did it secretly

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Well, his greatest poem was Angus comma I that's right. Yep. Finally Denver Lodge. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much Denver Lodge. Thank you

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If you're listening out there and you're thinking hey, I enjoyed the show

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I'd like to vote these gents do you can do that by going to our website knowledgefate.com clicking the button says for sure

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We would appreciate it. Yes. Thank you very much burns

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or Robert Burns nailed it god damn it

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Anyways, we can continue. Okay

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if you

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You know if you don't if you feel in generous and you you know, maybe don't want to support the show

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that's what you should do probably is

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Write a poem. Uh-huh

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to Robert Burns

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Sell it at auction

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Charity of course. Yeah, you know cherry in your area. That's up. It's for people in need

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So Jordan before we get to today's episode Z got a look in the mailbag. All right

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First virtual mailbag. Uh-huh. I mentioned on our last episode that I got really bummed out because the website for Jelly Belly

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They didn't we didn't allow you to buy seltzer. No, of course not and policy wonk Evan

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I commented on Facebook that they were all available at a local jewel here in Chicago

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Of course, they would be yeah, and so I got the seltzer mobile out, which is the left

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I went over to that that jewel immediately and I bought all eight flavors. Of course you did

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I have tried a number of them. All right, and they're fine. They're they're fine

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Yeah, pretty good. That's I think that's better than I would have expected their candy. Yes, so you'd think they'd be sweet

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Right, they're really not know that it's it's strange. There's even like a orange sherbet flavor. Yeah, it's not really overly sweet

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No, it's pretty it's pretty subtle. Do they go like the Jelly Belly route and get like actual buttered popcorn?

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No, see now. That's what I want from a gel. I'd be disgusting. Yeah. No, there's there's like grapefruit tangerine

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very cherry very cherry vanilla pina colada or a

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Couple others. All right orange sherbet and pina colada are probably as rangy as it gets

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Yeah, but one of the cool things that I'm excited to try isn't they force you to buy like you kids buy single

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Yeah, but you the the thing that I want to do is mix them, you know, like vanilla and cherry

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All right, see if we can make

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Cream soda cherry something like that. I gotcha. Yeah, so that I appreciate that in the digital mailbag

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But from the actual mailbags II. Yep. Yep. Got got a nice little thing from Paul in Austin

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All right sent over some other seltzers as well. Some Austin seltzers. Okay, they look really great. I'm excited to try them

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I've not had a chance here. I just got this in

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But one of them is called the party pickle. Okay, and I'm not excited about now

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That seems like the only one I want it. It's a pickle flavored seltzer

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Yeah, and it's a party and it's it's this brand big swig

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Right. All right, all the other cans from this company normal size

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Oh boy, yeah, they're not they're not booze either they're just a

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What are you gonna drink a normal-sized seltzer at a party? No, you're gonna pickle it up. Maybe

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Maybe not. I don't know. Okay, that's fair. Maybe I just want a taste of the pickle seltzer

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And also Paul sent us a couple shirts

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Okay, so I want you to take a look at this this here shirt and see what you think about it because it's a little

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bit cool

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If you see this this shirt it is a guy blowing an armadillo

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It really does seem like it's a guy blowing an armadillo and I've been staring at it for a while trying to think of

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Any other thing that it could be? I think that's probably what it is. It says keep Austin weird

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It does yeah, and I think blowing an armadillo would do that

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I like that the tradition of listeners sending me shirts that I will never wear in public has continued, but thank you Paul

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Have you guys seen that the guy who wears the blown an armadillo shirt?

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He's a really cool guy a lot of coffee shop a lot of fun working out at home shirts

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But thank you Paul, yes, thank you very much so unzip wait

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Read whatever all right D. Zip sure okay, so Jordan. I don't know anything about

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Howard Hughes of course guy who hosts this show right? I know nothing about him

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I was trying to come into this with no idea what I'm looking at yeah

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Cuz I want to consider this a possible candidate for us to look at and understand more about and

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I

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First of all I think this guy is incredibly charming right okay. Well. That's great this show opens

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I'm like first of all his voice fun. Okay second like it's just I mean listen to this guy sounds nice

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Across the UK across continental North America and around the world on the internet by webcast and by podcast

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My name is Howard Hughes, and this is the return of the unexplained

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Greetings from springtime in London as I said those words a little burst of sunshine came through my window

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Which is a bit of a rarity these days

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It's been like come kind of mini winter for the last two weeks here

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But nice to see the things may be moving in the right direction

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But I know some of you don't like me give him weather reports from London

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So we won't dwell on that actually quite a few of you do that's a whole other topic

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You told me and a narrative arc of like the fourth doctor was he became a radio host for a while

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I would buy it and it would be this show I find it

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So charming that he opens the show talking about the weather and then gets self-conscious

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It was like some of you don't like me talk about the weather, but you know what?

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Great I like it. I like it off the off the jump. He's he's kind of I'm on his team so far very human

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Yes, and so why we get in this next clip

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He pretty quickly introduces who the guest is and you'll see why I chose this captain Randy Cramer. Oh

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It took a little bit of time to get it together, but we've got him on this edition

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captain Randy Cramer claims that he is part of a secret force that is

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already exploring and part of Mars

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You'll hear the whole story here

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So there's a misconception that some people have because of our fascination with Mark Richards

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Sure, that Mark Richards was the first episode of Project Camelot that we looked at

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Oh, he was when in reality the first episode we did had to do with

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Captain Randy Cramer we stuck with captains captains are for space weirdos lieutenant colonels are for gun weirdos

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Yeah for secret sources. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, we got Randy Cramer in here

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I figured like if this is going to be something we look at

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At least as a candidate the first episode gotta be Randy Cramer if you want us to cover your product on our show

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What Randy Cramer?

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Jelly Belly is making a Randy Cramer flavored seltzer Randy

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of course is the guy who was fighting aliens on Mars and the moon and

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had the

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Holographic med beds indeed that he was trying to kickstart. Yep for a while

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Oh, so we'll get into some more of that. But that's who he is. I believe our bay our

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Original episode of him was called like Mars colonies. Yeah, Mars base. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you can find that in the archives

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It's fantastic up. So Howard starts out the show

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Before the interview with giving like I really this guy is charming. Okay

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Graham says

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He's 40 miles from papa caterpillar 10. He's reading an email from a listener

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Okay miles from the Great Pyramid of Cholula and 15 miles from the town of at Laxco

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He says the reason I mentioned this is because ever since I moved here

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24 years ago many people say they're being sightings of alien ships at these places

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I've been to all of them and I haven't seen any sightings

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It's plausible that aliens if they exist visit papa caterpillar and the Great Pyramid

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But at Laxco, he says all that town is known for is the meat market the local ice cream of the garden. Thank you

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Those who knows maybe there's a big shortage of ice cream on Alpha Centauri. Who knows?

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BBC four had a show where they're just like yeah aliens are real. I'm fine with that

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But I love it. I don't feel like at this point if you're listening to this, I don't feel like I've heard

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An editorial decision no from the anchor agree like Howard the way he responds to that is

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Jovial and jokey kind of like that's not saying like oh, yeah

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The aliens must be coming there because they like ice cream easy and now we're getting into trouble

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Here's where here. I've just been burned too much. I've just been burned too much because we haven't heard any editorial decision

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I'm still on edge. Like my hackles are raised. Yeah, it's like when are you going to say something about how you hate Jews?

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Where does the ball is it gonna happen? Yeah, what's gonna happen? And that's the problem is it may not

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We don't know. What if he doesn't hate Jews? What do we even do? How do we like a unicorn?

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How do we fit that into the concept exactly is this actually just pure space weirdo?

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Could be oh god, I'd say yeah, it'd be amazing now in addition to having some listeners who?

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like the meat market and

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the ice cream down in New Mexico

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It's fantastic. Yeah, also some listeners in Canada and again this charmed me to no end Jonathan in Mississauga, Ontario

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I've always loved that name, Mississauga. Oh, you're so in love with them from Canada, and I love it when they say

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Some of the great place names in Canada like yellowknife and Mississauga, you know one of these days

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I want to come to Canada. But anyway, let me get to the email

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Yeah, you and I have had the same conversation about a waga dugu. Sure

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This is word-for-word you be like, I just love the way certain names are pronounced in a reason exactly Madagascar

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Yeah, yeah, this is this is fantastic. I'm enjoying this so he has done the business up top

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He's talked to a couple of emails

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We've learned he loves the name Mississauga who doesn't and so now it's time to introduce

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Captain Kramer

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We are fascinated by the red planet Mars is a place that we are actively making plans to visit

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There are private companies doing that

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there are

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plans by NASA and others to

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Explore the red planet more and maybe to terraform Mars in other words to turn it into an environment that you could live on

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To be able to turn the red dust into something that you grow things on. It's not science fiction anymore

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And it's all in the pipeline. It's stuff that we dreamt about

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When we were kids and now seems to be coming for real. It's coming reality

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We're actually a lot of us gonna live to see this

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But there's another perspective on all of this

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What if I told you that there are people who say that we have been to Mars?

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We're actively involved in Mars and we have a team of people who are

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Explorers of Mars already. I think I'd say you were full of shit

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I speak with Captain Randy Kramer

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He claims to have spent 17 years on Mars and three years on a secret space fleet

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as part of

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Explorations so he claims to be as opposed to he did do this

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It's already it's it's it's already the different framing. You can tell there's a there's a

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Sense of it that is like well, this is what he says

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Yeah, and and the editorial position is still unestablished even as as we're coming in and you can see craft

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You can see a bit of like like what I wrote down was someone wrote something. Yeah

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Someone involved preparation. Yeah, this is wild. There's a there's a bit of care that is clearly put into the product

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Yeah, so when you when you hear like

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Randy Kramer on project Camelot, it's just like hey blue blob bites breaking up

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One of the most important whistleblowers of all time heard that this guy is the best

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I believe everything that he's ever said even though a lot of it contradicts some of the people that yeah

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So at the at the outset we have a charming British man

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Like city and can make jokes about aliens like an ice cream

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Yeah, and he apparently at this point at least doesn't seem to be pushing

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Yeah for this person to be credible or correct totally which I appreciate because it's very uncommon

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For us see once again, I'm feeling like this is a honey pot

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This is a trap somehow like this guy only started three years ago after listening to our first episode

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It's like some day. No, I think I think he has a couple I have like 400 episodes

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Damn

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Wild, okay. Um, so here comes Randy and he's gonna tell his little story about how he was bred to be a super soldier

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Okay, can I call you captain Randy Kramer or Randy?

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Randy's just fine Randy. Thanks very much for coming on. Um, talk to me about you then. What's your background? Oh

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Wow, well, I guess if you're asking about my military background

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I am

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literally born out of a project that was

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Drum dreamt up in the mid-60s to augment and or create from scratch

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Genetically augmented soldiers. So he was in the military before he was even born. Well, of course he was. Yes

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Yeah, I don't like that. I mean Howard's being polite. I call you Randy captain Kramer. I I hear look I

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Think this is cuz we're American. Mm-hmm. But when he said can I call you captain Randy or just Randy? I

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Want to say that was a really deep insult right there

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Like there was something David like can I call you captain Randy right? Cuz it's not can I call you Randy comma captain Randy?

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It's can I call you captain Randy such as to say that I'm kind of treating you as a as a novelty as like

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Uh, can I call you captain Randy because no one else will it's um, do you know what I'm saying? It's interesting

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It's it's kind of tough to read sometimes how like the ways in which politeness can be used as a weapon. Yeah

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I don't trust British people. I know you're using their sneaky. You're nice

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So

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Military people realize at a certain point that they had this alien technology, right?

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They've gotten this from crafts and what-have-you. Yeah. Yeah, and they were trying to use it on soldiers, right?

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Cuz why wouldn't you write and that but they kept finding out doesn't work. You gotta do it with babies or something

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Sure, you've got a you've got a breed super soldier. Well, we certainly at that time were

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cracking a number of different books and

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And tables of information from extraterrestrial sources and extraterrestrial technology that was giving us jumps ahead of civilian technology and civilian research and development

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so the ability for the military to start doing genetic experiments ahead of what anything in the civilian world was was due to that to

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Advanced technology infused within those programs that gave us the leap ahead

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All right

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once we had access to that technology people wanted to figure out how to use it and so the first thing to do was

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try and figure out how to augment who you've already got and who we did enough tests with that and realized that it was

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Minimally effective that you really just had to do what some of the ETS were telling us that we needed to do who were working

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This including scientists were coming down working in our labs on the ground on terrestrial soil with us

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To advise us now you really want to do this, right?

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You got to start from the ground up and you got to build the chain and build a map and start from the beginning

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And don't try and do it later on so you can hear at the end of that way you guys

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There is excuse me. There is the desire to ask follow-up question

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Yeah, which you can hear you know which runs throughout which again I appreciate

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But yeah, so we had this tech and you couldn't use it with existing soldiers

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So you had to sort of genetically alter and create people who could use this tech. Oh, yeah, or whatever

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Great. I want to say I want to say everything tracks there for the most part

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Well, as far as like if you accept a premise then exactly offshoot at least make sense from where you're starting

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Everything was going great up until he was like, well, we had this alien technology

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So they were like, let's just use it on the guys we have. Mm-hmm like

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That was their first option. Well, it's like hey, we got this alien tech. I don't know Frank's not busy

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Sure, let's toss it on him. Let's see what happens. They didn't try it on. It does make sense

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All right, fine. If you accept a God except B. It's against the law. So Geneva Convention. I learned that recently

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so if we've got this program where

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These these these youths are being created before birth to be able to use this tech sure

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You know, it raises the question. When did Randy get involved at this happen Randy? Where did you come into all of this thing?

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What were you where were you serving with whom?

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Well, no, no, that is the answer to where I come in all this. I was one of the first genetically

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Created soldiers from that project. I was built in a petri dish from the ground up in late 19 mid 1969

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And I was born in 1970

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Kidding perfectly rational when you talk to me, how can we be sure of that?

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Show you

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Through radio channels, that's for sure. Okay. So yeah, I mean already out of the gate. There is a

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Mildly insulting you're kidding. I can't I can't but be good to describe to you how much the you're kidding took me by surprise

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Yeah in our world

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Whatever says ever ever were you listening to like project?

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Right or some of these just these these just people who believe anything

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There's never a what the fuck are you talking about?

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And he asks for proof and Randy says I have proof but not that I can give you a radio

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Tell it to you. So that is also pushed a tiny bit and

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This is what Randy comes up with as his best proof. Okay that he actually is a super soldier who was fighting on Mars

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I'm with you that the main piece of proof that I have to throw out to people is that

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I live in the most militarized nation in the world

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We have no sense of humor at all about people who impersonate officers for interest in what so ever not true

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If I were impersonating an officer and I've spoken to my attorney about this

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There are absolutely steps that would be taken by the FBI and by the Marine Corps to discuss with me about my fraudulently doing so

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And how I needed to cease and desist and do that

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So if they thought you were passing yourself off as Randy, Captain Randy Cramer of the Space Corps, they would close you down first

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Well, I'm saying is that that if I were doing that fraudulently the process that they would follow through on is to contact me and tell

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Me to cease and desist and show proof in which case then I would say great

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I'd love a hearing and a JAG officer and my lawyer has essentially assured me that I'm probably never gonna hear from them

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Because they never want to give me a hearing

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so

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That's where I have my first problem. We can take two points of view on that last little piece of it for me

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Yeah, so his best evidence for why this is real is that no one's tried to stop him. Gotcha

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Gotcha journalism. You thought you had me. You thought you could catch me with this whole proof question. Let me tell you something

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What's the sound of one hand not slapping me? Wow silence. Yeah, so

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um, it's also really creates an interesting problem for me when Randy keeps talking because

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You know, he's saying that like I've talked to my lawyer about what would happen if I was faking all this

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Anyone cared to which his lawyer said you're kidding and why would he ask his lawyer any of these questions?

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If what I'm about to play you is true good question

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So you're saying that they're letting you do this and they're letting you come on shows like this one because you're telling the truth

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But if you were telling the truth, wouldn't that be a reason to close you down?

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I'll go a step further than that. No the command staff of United States Marine Corps Special Section

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decided that they needed a public spokesperson to act as their public relations officer and

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Apparently there was a short list of which my name was put on and then when they went through that list eventually

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It came up to me and then my Brigadier General asked me very politely if I wanted to be the public

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Spokesperson guy and first I was like not really but he convinced me and I said, alright fine. And

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So yeah, my commanders have absolutely authorized me through a number of legal parameters

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Which exist in the United States Marine Corps Special Section Special Code of Conduct that go beyond

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Giving me permission

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Outside of security clearance. There's actually a legal mandate for me to do what I'm doing. He legally has to come on these shows

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Talk shit about how he's a super soldier. All right. Now that is airtight

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But do you understand like why this is now really confusing?

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Why were you talking to your lawyer about the potential consequences of being a fraud?

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Your Brigadier General about the potential consequences of being like talk to your a go ask your Brigadier General

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Like a chain of command really important. Hey Brig, what would happen if I were faking what I'm doing

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But I'm not because this is totally legitimate. Listen, I would love to give you advice on that

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But I need to tell you to talk to a lawyer first

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So I find this out of the gate

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Convoluted not great. Not great

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and so one of the things that's really nice about this sort of British interview style is

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That it is largely polite

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You know like there is you can tell there might be times when he might want

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Howard might want to ask something a little more direct sure

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But because it's an interview and this person is your guest there is sort of a decorum that

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the Howard carries with him and so he moves on to another topic and this this one is really where I

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Got like serious red flags. I mean I already had them but well, yeah

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Yeah, Randy talks about his early life and like coming to understand that he was a super soldier

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Yeah, yeah, I believe there were dreams the last there are some dreams. Yeah, they will be in the mix

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Yeah, there's two things happening there at the same time

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you're living a normal life which you wake up every day and you perceive that you were going through normally and then

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Usually at nighttime when they decide to go take you away for training periods

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Or educational missions or educational experiences, whatever whatever the training is which ends up being you know

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A number of years total worth training because their start when you're a toddler

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Run by United States Marine Corps special section called project moonshadow project moonshadow like it. I'm dreaming of one like it

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So yeah, he's got this this whole situation where?

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Randy saying he's living a normal life, but then at night sometimes they take you on training missions

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Yeah

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And at the same time he's saying he was created wholly in a lab in a petri dish as a super soldier

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Sure

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And so this is kind of getting to Howard and he's like your parents have to be involved in this

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Wow

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physiological parents

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Who contributed to you?

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Um, how how involved were they in this? They must have been totally involved in this. I just

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This is a real sticking point for Howard which I appreciate because it is so logistical, you know

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It is so like wait, hold on

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Yeah

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How would that like would they they had to have known that they had like an artificial at the very least?

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Did your parents have an artificial insemination?

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Yeah, exactly have an appointment nine months before you were born with a doctor who may have secretly

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Yeah, exactly. There has to be something or like you disappeared at night when you were really young

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We're always sleeping. Oh, okay

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No parent has ever woken up in the middle of the night to go check and see whether or not their child is still

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Asleep, but it's never happened. This becomes an issue

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for him, but before that really

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Becomes a hurdle. There's also the question of like wait if your parents didn't know about this

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How do you know about it? Good question. How did you get knowledge of it?

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Then if they didn't know who told you

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Well, I always would wake up with memories of things that would happen in the middle of the night

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You would just wake up and sort of disassociate them thinking. Wow, that was the strangest longest dream ever

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even though you had a dream that seemed to last days or weeks at a time and seemed to be very

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consistent and not have weird dreamlike qualities to it and have a very solid linear timeline to it other than that, you know

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You wake up and there's sort of this

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When you're talking about how like brainwave at conscious brainwave activity works when you move from data felt a data

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Sorry Delta theta wave

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Sleep states and move up through it's called your alpha bridge into your beta states

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You often forget and disassociate what's happening in that theta or Delta state

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So because primarily what you're being trained in is in a lower brainwave consciousness state, which is actually

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Better for training than a high beta state. Oh, of course you come out of sort of into your waking consciousness

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You kind of shake it off and go. Well, that was a really weird long dream even totally nothing about it

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If you were to sit down with a dream analyst at that age and talk to them would really indicate that you were having a dream

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They would go. Wow, that is the weirdest experience I've ever heard but you don't think I don't trust dream animals

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You just think wow start their weirdest longest dream ever and I learned after a few conversations with my parents like, you know

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Waking up and sitting at the breakfast table and saying why I had this weird dream last night

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Let me tell you about it and getting those disconcerted looks from your parents to know I shouldn't bring this up again

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That makes them worried. Okay, there's a lot going on. There's a lot on back

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There's a lot going on here and none of it to me sounds like super soldier stuff

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There's a lot of bullshit and what I think is true is real a bummer. It sounds like a

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A creative child having vivid dreams

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Yeah

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And maybe some kind of an inability to connect with parents around these dreams that leads them to creating

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Alternative explanations for why they're having what I hear what I hear

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So so simply could be boiled that because I experienced this too as a child

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Which is that that old like, you know, I got an a-plus

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I got an a plus I need to see the counselor, you know

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Like that kind of like that's what I'm hearing right now. Yeah, sure

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but there are just these these concrete issues like the question of if

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You're doing all this shit and being trained as a fucking Mars super soldier space person

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How did your parents not notice? It's a really good Howard cannot let that go and I think that's good

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It's a really good really important boy. Yeah, so when did the force that created you to serve?

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Intervene and start getting involved in your life as a kid. When did they start training you and how?

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The earliest memories of training are probably really somewhere between about three and a half and four years old

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Okay, and you would be taken away from your parents for training

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Right, and they didn't know anything about this

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Well, you know when I was a kid if anybody taken me away from my mom and dad

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They'd be hearing from my dad pretty damn quick

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right, right

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There is an explanation

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Sure. I don't know if it's a good one. Okay, so your parents they must have been

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Aware of this or they must have made a fuss about if you if you were disappearing for periods going to get training

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And you work with them presumably

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Um, surely, I mean this some of this doesn't I have to say some of this is difficult to take in

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Which is that again because we're talking about programs that are using

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reversed and or handed-down technology from extraterrestrials

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Their ability to do things like hover over your house with a spaceship, you know

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and pick you up and or project a wormhole into your bedroom and pick you up and or take you to a location for

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training and

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Use time travel to take you back so that you're actually

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That is really hard to read

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That's really hard to read that could be a guy going. Ah

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Like oh no. Oh

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No

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Or it could be a guy be like, oh, okay. This is how this fits into the narrative. Maybe time travel is real

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Okay, I guess

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It's hard to say because I don't know anything about this host

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I I might be approaching it more generously than he deserves. I have no idea but it that is a really funny response

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I'm falling. I look I couldn't get over the the like

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I'm because some of this is really hard to swallow like that's

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Dead pan nature of that. I want to see his face while he's doing that if there isn't even like the hint of a smile

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Yeah, he's a genius. He's a comedic genius

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Yeah

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So this next clip is where I kind of got a sense of like aha

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Call me Hercule Poirot because I've solved this mystery. Okay, this is where it's like, ah, this is this is the clue that unravels

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I would say a more earth-based solution and resolution to what was going on with his childhood

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My mother is actually a very

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Metaphysically psionically sensitive person and I will say that she is has always had insomnia and

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Is one of those people that I think she was aware that something was going on and it was one of the reasons why she was

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Always had horrible insomnia and was always terrified that someone was coming to take her children away

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Knew about this on some level on an intuitive level

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I think she did and it created a lot of the panic and anxiety

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She had around sleep issues and around, you know, being the house being broken into at night and so forth

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Which there was no evidence that that was happening

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But I think she was intuitively tuned into it and was very panicky

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So I would say that there are you know, like there's an explanation and that is that he was part

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He was a super soldier who was bred to fight wars against aliens on Mars for years

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Oh then became a young person again by way of being

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Reinjected into his clone five minutes after he left naturally. He was 17. Yeah, that's one explanation

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Another explanation is that these paranoia's and panicky fears about losing her children sure

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We're sort of projected on to her child

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His mother has this preoccupation and the child wants to create a way to

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Explain away those fears and anxieties sure in a way that's helpful. That's productive. That's not like hey

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There is someone coming to take me. No, there are people taking me but they're taking me to be a hero

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Yep, like it kind of makes sense. I'm not saying that that is the case. I know psychiatrist or psychologist probably like hey

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If that's a possible explanation fucking think it's way more likely than he's a Mars soldier Dan

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Any dream analyst would completely disagree with you. I

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Feel like I have all the information that I need to say I don't think you were on Mars

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I

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Did he uses it like does he do this with all of his guests does he kind of like no

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Cuz currently I feel like he's lulling him into the sense of like

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Accidentally, he's revealing the the center of all the problems and Howard is just going to like allow that to exist in the space

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I do know everyone kind of gets it. I do think that Howard is making fun of him by the end of it

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Okay, but I I think well, I mean that's fair. Well, it's one of those things that like

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This is an interesting style of way to talk to people who are making extravagant claims

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Which is to have some pushback but not so much that you're being a dick to them because they are your guest

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Yeah, and it is you don't want to have a fight with somebody for no reason

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Yeah, what's the but if you ask pointed questions and follow-ups then your audience can make a responsible choice about what's being said

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And then they could be like, okay. All right, hold on. Yeah, this doesn't make sense

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Whereas the way that like project Camelot and a lot of these other places the way that they show these people is in such an

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Unquestioning or if there is questioning it's questioning in the wrong direction. Oh, yeah

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Yeah

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and and that is irresponsible because you just you give your audience a false sense of credibility about every single thing that every

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Total weirdo is saying oh, yeah, and I think that that is the way that Howard appears to be approaching this

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Yes, and I say that

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Very cautiously because like I said, I haven't listened to any other episodes. I've only listened to this one

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I you I look I'm waiting to hear him say a hard J, you know, you know like that's where

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That's great. Yeah, that's great. I don't trust you yet fine. I'm gonna need years of work

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So when I say that like he's approaching this in a way that allows the audience to make a decision about what they're hearing

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I think that you can tell that some of them are not into it

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I have to tell from your texts and tweets not all of you are buying into this necessarily Randy

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You must get a lot of opposition from people who simply don't believe it

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To be honest not nearly as much as you might think. I mean, there are certainly the I stay away from them

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You know number of unranked civilian there me people who want to have their opinion about it

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but when it comes to my interactions with

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my local

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Politicians elected representatives local law enforcement other professional persons agencies military personnel

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NASA engineers a whole list of very very professional credentialed people. It's never even a question. They don't bat an eyelash with me

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They're they all talk to me very professionally and are very interested in what I've done and what I'm doing and okay. I'll believe you

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Whatever sometimes when you're lying, huh? Your list is too long. It's a pretty big list kind of a tell

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Yeah, um, so but Howard makes a point of this like a lot of people don't believe in this. No, that's true

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We have a character on radio here called Captain Kremen who was a bit of a wacky cartoon

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Spacexplorer created by disc jockey on radio was a really creative guy called Kenny Everett. Julie

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Um has tweeted just to say this is more Captain Kremen than Captain Kramer. But anyway, look him up

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I love this guy. That's actually funny. I like that

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It's a nice comment he's what he's a delightful character well because here here's why that's not a nice comment

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Randy's not playing a carrot. No, he's not the other guy

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Kremen is a joke is a joke. Yes, and you are more of a joke than the joke. Yeah, you understand that

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so Howard has another interesting line of questioning that begins a basically that if you're a kid and

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Someone's trying to kidnap you you might fight them off or you might not want to go along with them

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How was that experience for you when you were being taken for training?

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The point is that you were being taken away by various crafts and various means now if I was being taken away

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Especially when I was younger with him. I would I'd kick against it

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You know fight if I didn't realize what why it was all being done entirely. I would say please don't take me away

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Sure. What about you?

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As a kid you're certainly given

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Childlike explanations for what you're doing and where you're going and what the trainings for and so basically you got you know

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An adult standing there, you know, you want to shoot ray guns and fight space monsters, don't you and you're all like yeah

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I want to shoot ray guns and fight space monsters. And so it's an easy motivation. That's fucked up

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It sounds fucked up. It sounds fucked up. I there was a guy with candy in a van, but you get it

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But I got he was like you got I've got candy for you. Let's take a step even beyond that. Yeah

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He's saying that for a child. It's an easy sell to be like you want to shoot ray guns and fight aliens

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I have candy in my van. Well, no, no take that creepy part off of it

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Okay, that is what he's saying is what gets you hooked as a child. Yes, but that is also literally what he says he did

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Yes, correct. So it's not like they're misleading this child to lure them to the tree

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If you don't actually have candy in the van, that's a that should be a separate crime Oh

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Fraud fraud in kidnapping exactly. Um, yeah, I find this very weird

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and

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I just can't

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For I I don't know man. I can't imagine the government is has a

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secret

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Super soldier program that's predicated on successfully kidnapping children to train them

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It does seem extreme and at the very least slightly unethical. Oh quite

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Unethical there might be some issues. Yeah, but there were that means there are zero government watchdogs who are like

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Hey guys, at least cut it off like maybe a moratorium

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And that means that there has to be like teams that are just for kidnapping children to train

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This is a dark view of the bureaucracy

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Yeah, we got Leroy over here. He's the best child kidnapper. We have in the United States Marine Corps. So

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Randy is is being like hey, you know, like they come up and they say you want to shoot lasers and fight aliens

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But like, you know doesn't matter I was genetically

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Oh, yeah built to say yes to this kind of that's a good argument

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So they drew you into this by saying hey little man

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Do you want to play with a ray gun like you've seen in the movies?

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Psychologically, but but genetically keep in mind I was engineered and built for this

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I'm also engineered and built to think and want that this is a good idea

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So it wasn't something that I would have resisted anyway, because I was genetically engineered to think it was a good idea. So

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This is not good PR. He's the head of PR talking about kidnapping children

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That's a good point probably would have told you to keep that

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Hey, you remember how we told you ray guns and all that shit is cool that you tell them ray guns and shit are cool

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That's what we do. Yeah, keep the kidnapping on the low

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Yeah

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It's a great point

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But he's genetically engineered to say that is a great idea

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Yes, please. Let's go shoot ray gun. Yeah, so if you're genetically, you know engineered it

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It's kind of stands to reason that you'd have superpowers

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Well, yeah, and so this is restraint this topic comes up and I love the way that Randy describes his superpowers

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Okay, they are it's so perfect as to never be provable

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Do you have capabilities that maybe I and my colleagues here tonight don't have?

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I'm tend to be a little smarter a little faster a little stronger than everybody else

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And when you say you're a little stronger, what can you do that? We can't

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it really comes down to

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what happens with my physical strength in a physical fight and the best way to explain that is if

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I get jumped by three guys

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My physical body will respond as if I'm getting jumped by three guys if I get jumped by 20 guys

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My body will respond as if I'm getting jumped by 20 guys. So it escalates its output based on the input attack

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So the more people who attack me the stronger and faster I will be let's send an army that is

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Clever. Yeah, that is a good one. That's somebody who's practiced that bullshit a lot. Yeah, it's it's great. It means nothing

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Yeah, but earlier in his life, he wasn't really in control of these powers, but now he's fully actualized and

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Okay, he's in complete control

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It's a skill that is completely under my control and completely in my grasp and has its own safety protocols to you know

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Keep me from you know, killing innocent people and so forth. But ooh, that's a good

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We'll be sorry to be hurt very badly by me. I've never lost a fight. You are talk almost talked over his response

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Yeah, glad to hear that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Um, let's get you in the UFC

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I like seems very easy to test. Uh-uh. That's a great great little out right there

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Did you not hear the little part? Hmm? All right, it keeps me from hurting anyone innocent

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That's why if you were to suddenly show up and beat the shit out of him

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Yeah, my super soldier keeps me from hurting you going go against one of the most highly trained martial arts professionals in the world

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And don't kill them

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But if you can beat them up then well, I need I need government authorization fine

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These things seem like pretty easy to say yeah

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a

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Little bit smarter a little bit stronger a little bit faster. No big deal

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I mean the smarter part we could also I mean, I don't really know a perfect way

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to quantify that bullshit fine you win, but okay if

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Let's have you race against yeah, Michael Johnson. I don't know. Is he still super fast? All right, how about sweet?

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I don't have a good reference to that person anymore. Usain Bolt. There you go

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Yeah, I was saying bolt versus Randy Cramer in a foot race

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I think so and then he's gonna be a little bit faster than I bet any Bravo could kick at his ass

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Speaking of which

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Rogan is now on Spotify. Yes, I saw and

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Just a little update Alex still is not on Spotify

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Alex was supposed to be his first guest supposed to be there was Duncan Trussell

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Duncan Trussell was the first guest and all of Alex's old episodes gone from Spotify. Yeah into Rogan's thing

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Haha in a very literal sense Alex will never be on Spotify

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I wanted to do I wanted to cover Alex's show because I'm sure he's gonna have a freak out about that

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Oh, yeah time. Yeah, so that'll probably be on Friday. All right, but back to the superpowers

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Yes, it turns out you can also run and jump really fast

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Okay, come meet tall buildings in a single bound, but can you sort of jump over high walls and stuff like that and run faster?

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Well, yeah, like I said, it's it's situation responsive

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so the faster I need to run the faster I'll run the higher I need to jump the higher I will jump and and

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Like the actual limitations of that as far as like inches and feet are classified

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But again, it escalates based at the threat

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So we're not really sure what the top of those scales are sometimes because we haven't necessarily seen top scale threat

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I have a perfect way to test this. Okay, we have to create a

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Scenario where there's a parkour contest sure against like I don't know Tony Jaa or like someone who's okay

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Whoever loses will be executed

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Now that because you have to make government it's against the law for the government to stop

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Yeah, but this is an asset of theirs well, they don't want to lose money on this let's just say

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How else would you do it? How else would you create the required threat that you need to jump over that building? Sure

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No, furthermore what this implies is that the government has done a lot of testing that involves

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regularly

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Increasing threats like you're in like they're in a box and they're like, alright today you fight a lion and then tomorrow

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They're like you fight two lions. So that's the way they're gonna figure out what your level is

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Can I be clear with you two that I think that what this has to be regulated by is adrenaline, right?

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I mean, it's got to be a situation where the threat is

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Perceived by the body as an adrenaline response. Yeah, so you could artificially elevate your art adrenaline

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No, you can't super soldier. You need whatever it is

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That's causing him in his body to respond to threats the way it could be artificially recreated and he could jump over a building

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Not with our tech. No wait, not with civilian technology

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Not the aliens ever figured that one out

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So we know from listening to Randy on project Camelot that after his tour of service was done sure

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He was age regressed

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which is to say that the government had an exact perfect clone of him at the age that he left right and then his

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Consciousness was transferred into exactly. Yes now Mike down for this because we get a little more information than I remember

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He's had years to work on this story. This is not good. Okay, so you spent all those long periods but because

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They're able they've got back engineered technology presumably that allows them to compress time

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You are not like 60 or 70 years of age now

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Which you would have to be if you'd say all of those periods see now here. Here's the funny part

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Right is because of their ability

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Okay, so they call it age reversing but it's not really age reversing at the end of your 20-year tour

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They take you back to LOC which is Luna operations command on the moon and they say, okay

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We're gonna you know

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wipe out your memory from all the traumatic secure things that you don't want to remember anyway, and and we're gonna

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Send you back in a young do basically

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Hatch you out a new clone body

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That's the same age when they took you away and they and I know this is gonna sound weird to some people again

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But high advanced alien technology has and science has gotten us to understand

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that the human soul is a quantum fluid and

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moved and

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Put into another container and held and or put back into another vessel or another body and so

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Through a mechanism which I was not conscious for obviously and I do not recall or do you know how it works other than?

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They're able to remove the soul from that body put it into this younger clone body. That's the same age when you left

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Repress all your memories and then put you back and you essentially wake up

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You know 15 minutes after you left from a 20-year tour a soul juice. You got soul fluid

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hmm, I'm gonna be honest with you if I were if this was like in a theater and they the two of them were talking on

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Stage and he had just said that and then just the pause I would have stood up and slow clapped my balls off

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Me just like standing up and be like

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See if I were the interviewer in that exact same situation, I would stand up and walk away

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Oh

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Come on the fuck out of here soldiers deserves a standing ovation. Yeah, there's two reasons why this is bullshit

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One what happens in the casket like is your soul juice just trapped? No, no, it's a quantum fluid

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It just kind of sinks down into the ground. Yeah, that doesn't seem like it makes sense

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Doesn't really Oh, or maybe all the corners know this and they take your soul juice out and they use it to power

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Spacecraft we're doing so that's confusing and second the other problem that I have is a very serious problem is

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You had this done. Yeah, are you not curious? You can't tell me anything about the process classified

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He didn't say that

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You had your soul juice put in another body some things you don't ask about dad ha you don't ask about soul juice

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Yeah, it's rude. Tell me tell me tell me. Mm-hmm

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Tell me do the words quantum and fluid mean anything when they are put next to each other. Maybe I don't know

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I don't think they do. Okay, I'm gonna call it fluid

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Well, you might be on the half of the audience here that thinks this is bullshit, okay

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I could be hey Randy Kramer you are dividing my audience here some of them love it and some of them say

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She was not sure about this but amazing stuff. Okay, let's play if you just join us now

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Into this hour and you missed the first half-hour if you see what I'm saying

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Captain Randy Kramer is a man who was bred for missions to Mars. Yep, so

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Amazing. Yeah, I mean there's the constant

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Reminder that there's a bunch of people listening who think this is trash

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Yeah, this is garbage. And that's I think that's important. I think that's responsible. So he's very polite about yeah

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He's expressing what is clearly a bunch of people saying he's full of shit. Yeah, so there's a question that is also that is important

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It's like why aren't there a ton of people who have the exact same story as you good question

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Very important point and people would get on my back if I didn't put this point to you

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Some of those crafts have you said a few thousand people on board them, which you don't might well have

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Where are all of those people and why aren't they speaking to?

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Well, some of them do

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But do that. Yeah, sure

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Some of them do they're in a lot who they as most of them

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Their memories have been badly have been repressed very very call it either badly or well

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and so sometimes their brains end up being more Swiss cheese and oatmeal and

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It's hard for them to bring memories to a cohesive state

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I talk to people all the time who are in the process of

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Unfolding their traumatic memory experiences and are constantly asking me for advice on how to remember

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things more clearly and how to get their memories back and how to

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You know deal with the trauma and so forth and and so there's a lot of people who are I will just be honest and tell

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You that most of them quite simply have no desire to be an out-in-front public person

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They don't want to be targeted

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They do not want to be

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You know get any hassle from anybody because most of them have not been given permission by command officers

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You must admit that a lot of people will find it strange that you are the main person

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Authorized you say to be doing the speaking about this if there are so many people who go through that experience

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And if you're in contact with them here on earth

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I'm one of two

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Now I

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Would suggest that if we take Randy at face value

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Yes, what he's describing is there's a government program that makes super soldiers kidnaps them from their parents

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Without anyone's consent in order to train them up through their dreams and other things indeed

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Then has them fight battles against aliens for 20 years or whatever

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yeah, and then takes the soul juice correct it puts it back in a

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Younger clone body and wipes all their memories which leaves many of them with brains like Swiss cheese or oatmeal

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Yeah in terrible pain not remembering any of this feeling crazy for the rest of their lives

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Yeah, and Randy is doing PR for them

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Randy I'm sorry, but your previous Brigadier General was was fired

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Because he hired you as our PR guy and you just gave us PR as scrambling people's brains

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Yeah, maybe on purpose. Yeah, do you what do you say being a knight badly or well?

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Are you implying that we want to scramble brains? I think that's what I heard

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I think that's what I'm hearing your Brigadier General is fired. And also you are he's describing something really really horrifying

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Yeah, and just being like yeah, I work for them. What why?

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Whistle we're trying to stop

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I work there. They're great guys weird. So anyway, there's two there's two

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And here's here's Randy's explanation for that. Yeah, there are two people actually. Well, let me let me put it in a try and

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Answer that in a more broad way to be more specific to get where you're going out with that

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Have you ever seen me with a mustache fleet that naval space command sort of runs?

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For the planet is divided into two fleets in the same way that here in America

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We have a Pacific Fleet and Atlantic Fleet to separate, you know ships and guards sort of two different

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Coastal ports and so we got up space and down space up

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Policing of the solar system. It's easier to sort of divide it in imaginary line down the middle of it and have of course

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It is on the one side and another fleet on the other side. So you have the

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Solar warden and radiant guardian now each fleet

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Decided that they needed to have a spokesperson and that they would pick

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Person for radiant guardian the other spokesperson for solar warden is a gentleman by the name of Corey good

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You may or may not have heard of him

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He is absolutely if you don't know about him look him up that's convenient they're both American guys

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Yeah, it's laughable that these space

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Programs decide

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They started out with one spokesman and one guy was like I can't be handling with this spokesman

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We're gonna need our own what spokes job is being achieved here. I don't see what good is coming

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Is good a better spokesman than you know, he's gonna get to COVID denialism lately

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You guys are bad choices. Yeah

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So like what's interesting to me

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Is that like just look at this from an institutional perspective like you are the Navy you're running

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The solar warden or whatever, right? Okay. What good does this guy do you?

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Hold on. Let me ask you a better question. Are you running east or west solar warden? Oh, no, cuz one's radiant

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Okay, so you're running well, I mean, I assume radiant garden does things differently from solar warden Wow. I

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Don't know what solar warden standards are. I don't know

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But like what is achieved by this like obviously if you have a spokesperson they would be there to answer questions about things sure

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There is nothing to answer questions about there's not like him like that. There's not like oh, hey, there's a reported story

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In the AP about solar warden's behavior. We're gonna reach out to the spokesman for comment, right? That's not happening

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So this is this is furthermore not just PR in the sense that it was like if people are

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Fielding questions in order to make the company. Well, that's what often a spokesperson would do it's active outreach, right?

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I'm being directed to tell you

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If he's a spokesman in that sense it's doing a terrible job we kidnapped kids and then bring them back with their brains fried

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What no, we don't support. It's not in our name. No

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More damage than good if this is some like crazy elaborate secret program

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Sure, then it's better for them to not have someone like Andy. It does them. No good agreed

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It does no good. Agreed. Anyway, there's a there's these two branches. No, here's what they're doing

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They want you to underestimate them dad. They want you to think they're so stupid

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Well, and then whenever you finally come at them, oh they're brilliant it's all part of the long game did victory then

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So, um, you know, you got these two guys you got Randy Kramer

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You got Corey good and they're both weirdly from the United States, but they're supposed to be

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Policing the space. Yeah. So how does this work? You said policing the solar system?

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Who is policing the solar system?

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Well earth defense force naval space command and this other sort of loose international group of

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military persons who

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Sort of conglomerate together to make up the fleet

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So participating countries have officers and pilots and so forth that they contribute to the larger program

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And and then those people are distributed throughout the fleet in various missions in person. So this is real-life Star Trek

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Then it's the Federation

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If you want to get real money get all nerdy about it starts that the Federation's mission was was very diplomatic and peaceful and was

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non-military and we definitely have a military mission because we considered the military protection of the solar system to be

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Absolutely necessary given the tangible threats that we have to deal with which again aren't so horrible that we can't deal with them

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But there is a list of tangible threats that we have to get with them

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So the tangible threats aren't really that bad and yet we use it as a justification to kidnap children

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And then leave them with their brains fried afterwards. Well, I don't support this. No, there's no other way. The tangible threats aren't that bad, turns out.

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Listen as your PR guy, I want to just let everybody know this would be way better if it was Star Trek

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I know everything about Star Trek. I'm a bit of a nerd in actuality. This is the worst. Yeah, it's really peaceful in space. There's no problem and we ruin people's lives.

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Yeah, Star Trek, excuse me. So it goes to, Howard goes to some listeners who have brought up some interesting points and one of them has to do with the fact that if you're in space for like ten fucking years your body will deteriorate. There you go. Randy has his go-to answer.

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Now one of our listeners, Hedy, who is a scientist and is a regular contributor to this show, says

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Prolonged exposure to 17 years or whatever of Martian gravity would cause massive bone deterioration

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How did you avoid that?

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Well, I hate bones. I have this amazing medical technology that was used on us all the time because we were in the field

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engaging in regular combat and I've had my arms and my legs blown off so many times I can't even count.

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And they essentially use what we call a holographic regenerating medical bed technology which uses a projected hologram at a cellular level to

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convince your body to regrow and damaged and ripped off limbs.

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And what's that technique called again? I love the name of that. What's that called?

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A holographic regenerating medical bed.

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It doesn't sound like he believes him.

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It really doesn't, it sounds incredibly polite. It does not seem like he believes him.

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Oh, that's good. I love the name of that. Tell me the name of your, tell me the name of your magical made-up world, JK Rowling.

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So here we get a little bit more information about these med beds because, you know, they've been brought up a bit

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but the actual mechanics of it have always eluded us.

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I have one question that I hope this clip answers.

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Maybe.

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If he's had his arms and legs off, legs blown off so many times, does he lose any soul juice?

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Soul juice isn't in the arms.

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None?

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It's a quantum liquid.

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There isn't even a little bit of soul juice in the arms?

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Quantum.

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What does that even mean?

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Are you your arm? This is a philosophical question now.

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If you replace every part of your body.

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If you go into a younger clone with your soul juice.

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Are you still you?

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I don't know.

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This is a good question.

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These questions do not come up and I'm sorry that your question is not answered.

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Okay.

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A hologram that has a resolution at the cellular level that projects of a perfect image of your body

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that restores damaged tissue and or at the end of a severed limb will fool that cellular tissue to keep going.

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Because the only thing that stops your tissue from growing when you've blown off a limb

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is it reaches oh there's nothing here to keep going to.

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But if you convince it by having a hologram at a cellular level that it goes oh I can just keep growing.

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You essentially fool your body that it can just keep growing and you can regrow an entire limb.

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Right.

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So there's a master template of you somewhere.

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Sure.

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Right that they use it your perfect genetic basically it's just a DNA map that they can project holographically.

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I can do with one of those.

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All right.

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He wins.

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I have nothing funnier to say than that.

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It seems like he's being a dick to him really politely.

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He's really polite.

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Yeah.

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Oh I could use one of those boys.

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Yeah.

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So apparently I don't know.

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I'm not a doctor and I didn't pay much attention in like biology classes in college.

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Sure.

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And so I'm just going to have to leave this to the audience.

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Reach out and tell us if the only reason your arm doesn't grow back is because it gets there and it's like ah nothing here.

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It sounds right.

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So holograms are apparently the solution to that.

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It turns out that's a great idea.

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Because I'm not a doctor I can't speak on this or tell you that it sounds very dumb.

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But hey maybe it works.

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Anyway there's a really lingering question that I think is very important.

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And Kerry.

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Okay.

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If you can, if soul juice exists at the quantum, it's quantum fluid.

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Soul juice.

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Can you artificially create it in like a, in like a collider?

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Can you create soul juice?

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If you are telling me that the soul is a physical thing.

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Soul juice can either be created or destroyed.

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Only changed.

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All right.

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Fair enough.

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So I retract my question.

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So this lingering question that I think is really important and I didn't really get a real sense of in the other interview I heard of his is like, what's your job?

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What is your job?

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He's a PR guy.

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Well.

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Do you have a regular job in the States?

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My regular job is as an independent field commander of the United States Marine Corps Special Section.

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So under that series of duties is three main things right now that I have to deal with.

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Which is criminal investigation, research and development and public relations.

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So the research investigation.

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Yes.

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I have a couple of very, I'm just going to call them strange X file type cases that have been given for me to deal with that involves.

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Sure.

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Criminal activity of a very unusual nature, which I'm really, because it's an open criminal case, I can't really say anything more about it, but yeah, those are probably, that's my top priority to be honest with you right now.

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You're the PR guy.

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Why would they have the same person be Fox Mulder and the guy who answers the phone at the FBI or whatever?

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That doesn't make sense.

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Oh, come on.

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Look, you're on the clock.

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That's a fantasy.

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You've got time to lean, you've got time to investigate.

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You are not always giving interviews.

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Jordan, I will grant that his PR work is probably pretty limited.

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He would probably have time.

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I wouldn't give him that many hours in the PR field.

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I would say that he does have bandwidth to do some criminal investigations.

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Sure.

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Although I really, really, really don't think that any competent organization would have all of those hats being worn by the same person.

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Seems dumb.

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Brigadier General, can I do PR today?

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Oh, you could do PR, but just for today.

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So now here's where it gets weird about this job situation.

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Just now?

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Well, about the job situation.

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All right.

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I mean, it's already weird that he's so rangy, but it gets even worse.

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Randy, what does it say on your paycheck?

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I don't get one.

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That's why I'm an independent field commander.

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I'm responsible for dealing with all of my own resources and so forth.

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How do you live?

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How do you make ends meet, as we say here?

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How do you pay for your food, your accommodation, all the rest of it?

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There are some wonderful people who have been wonderful and helped me out when I've needed it.

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I do teach a psionics class, and every once in a while when I do one of those, I get a marginal fee for teaching a class.

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I get teeny fees for public speaking, which doesn't amount to anything.

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But to be honest, it's some really wonderful people who have picked up the slack and said, you know,

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we want to help you and have taken care of that for me.

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So really some wonderful folks.

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So it's just people who maybe believe that he's a super soldier, have given him a bunch of money?

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So I'm the PR person. I do criminal investigations in space.

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I have a Patreon.

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That's strange.

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You should maybe quit as the PR person.

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You are a bad PR person.

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Not only do they steal children, but they don't even pay you.

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I mean, this is going to be a serious labor issue.

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He's a slave investigator? That's what he's saying.

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That's what he's saying.

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Well, I mean, he doesn't say that he can't quit.

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He doesn't say that, so we don't know that for sure.

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I feel like it's an implied you'll be killed situation.

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Or your soul juice won't be put into another body later.

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Or your soul juice will be stolen.

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Because he has to be expecting that once he gets to a certain age or his body wears down,

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the government's going to put in some new soul juice.

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Yeah, you'd think. Maybe that's the payment.

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What if they put you in kind of like a...

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They're paying him with immortality.

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Ooh, that's it.

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I think that's a bad payment for his shitty life.

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Well, I don't know if his life's that shitty.

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No, that's fair.

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I bet he has a job at an office.

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Yeah, I was going to say.

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He's probably a really great fucking groundskeeper.

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I bet he could fucking kill a baseball diamond. Really make it look beautiful.

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Sure. So it's a problem that he's not getting paid.

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Or at least it's very confusing.

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Could be.

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So Howard pushes back on this a little.

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But I know it's not called this, but why aren't the Star Corps paying you?

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Oh, that is actually a more complicated legal reason.

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Being activated under the independent field commander clauses,

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I actually have a greater legal authority to do the things that I need to do

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as an independent field commander.

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Not getting a paycheck than I would getting a paycheck,

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which would actually limit what I can do.

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That's without a much more complicated legal discussion of that.

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It's a very specific legal parameter on being independent versus being completely dependent on them.

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Do you often get asked the question I've just asked you about how do you pay for all this?

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Not a ton. I mean, every once in a while.

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He doesn't seem to be getting asked the regular questions very often.

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You would think.

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So yeah, I guess what he's trying to harken to is the idea that if you're a contractor,

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they farm out your black water mercenaries.

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So I can do more outside the law than within.

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Sure.

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Whatever.

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Mercenaries also get paid.

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I'm going to ask you really quick.

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An organization that has no problem genetically creating children,

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secretly implanting them into host bodies,

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than stealing them when they are four.

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I don't understand why they're a real hung up on the payment part.

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Yeah.

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Or pay you in gold or something like Bitcoin.

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Yeah.

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You can get paid.

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Yeah.

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You can weave this into the narrative.

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There's untraceable money.

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Yeah.

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So this leads to Howard making a joke.

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Do me a favor, Randy.

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Don't tell any radio station that explanation for why you shouldn't be paid

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because they're all going to be using it.

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You know, I've got bills to pay.

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Damn charming guy.

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He's great.

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That's great.

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So he asks Randy because this is really hard as a pill to swallow.

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My capitalist overlords would love to treat me like that.

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You, Randy, are working for Space Army.

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Yeah.

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You're doing PR work.

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You're a detective for paranormal shit.

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I'm a good one.

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You're not getting paid.

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Why would I?

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Do you have a contract?

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That's a good question.

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Have you got a contract that you can read like a piece of paper with these people?

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Not in front of me that I could show you.

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I mean, let me put it this way.

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In a box somewhere in a vault that my records exist and then there is a contract.

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I'm going through a process to try and get them, but I don't expect it to happen soon.

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Yeah, me neither.

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I'm trying to get my legal documents, of course.

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But every time I ask my Brigadier General, he's like, go back to PR work.

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Yeah.

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It's in a box somewhere.

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Great.

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Whatever.

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It's in the Ark of the Covenant.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I was going to say it's a big warehouse.

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So we've basically gotten where we're going to get on this line of questioning.

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Pretty much, yeah.

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And so Howard moves it over to talking about, what's it like on Mars?

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What's it like to be on the surface of Mars?

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Well, the gravity is less than half.

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It's about 0.4, so it's much lighter, that's for sure.

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And that's why you have the extra strength then, presumably?

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Well, I mean, first of all, we're there in an augmented powered body armor environment suit.

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So not only do you have the ability to sort of jump higher and throw things farther,

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you're in a powered body armor, so you can even jump higher and farther and throw things farther.

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So it's a little crazy.

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But you're not allowed to bring that back with you.

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Oh, heck no.

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Nope.

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Also, why are you so focused on throwing things?

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How much throwing are you doing?

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Well, because he works on a baseball diamond most of the time.

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I could be.

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I think this is indicative of one thing.

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Everyone who's in the space weirdo interviewing community,

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whether consciously or instinctively, knows what questions not to ask.

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Because he's really thrown off by a lot of these very, very simple questions.

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These basic questions?

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Yeah, yeah, just like, you can hear him when he's like,

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Well, when he's in his element, he's, snap, I got my prepared responses.

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Let me offer Randy a little bit of an out on that.

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If I had been on Mars and you asked me what's it like on Mars,

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that's such an open question that it might take a second to be like,

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Well, the gravity is different.

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Fair.

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It's like, what's it like in Chicago?

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You know, it's nice.

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See, you paused.

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It's nice.

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Yeah, you didn't have a quick answer.

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That's fair, that's fair.

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It's a broad topic that you don't have an easy, immediate, satisfying answer for.

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Yeah, I wouldn't say the gravity's normal here.

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Sure is, though.

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Yes, it is.

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Also, another thing that Randy got to do while he was in space

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was he got to go to some intergalactic negotiations.

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Steve Paciorek was there.

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Yep, he was.

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He was there.

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Mike down for this because it ends with my favorite question that Howard asks.

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While I was on the Nautilus, I was very, very, very, very fortunate

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on a number of missions to the Intergalactic Space Station,

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not the International Space Station, the Intergalactic Space Station

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that rotates around Jupiter, which is a meeting place for a number of species

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from all over the place.

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We meet there, other people meet there to have some really fascinating discussions,

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mostly diplomatic arrangements, contract negotiations, et cetera,

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treaty negotiations, and on a number of occasions,

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I would tag along basically as one of the only flight officers

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with hand-to-hand combat experience.

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I was a just-in-case.

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Even though there was never a just-in-case, it was always very peaceful arrangements,

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but they wanted one guy who could stab somebody in the eye with their thumb

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if they needed to, and that was me.

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So I got to go along.

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I got to sit at many different tables across from many different species

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while senior officers were having many different discussions,

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initial negotiations, contract negotiations, treaty negotiations,

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first contact meetings.

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It was one of the most amazing things ever, and in that building, I've seen -

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Who are your favorites?

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Yeah, that's a great question.

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Here's -

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Again, I haven't listened to enough episodes to have a good sense

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of who this interviewer is, but my sense of that is if that's your question,

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you're not taking this very seriously anymore.

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You are not -

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Like, your question, who's your favorite alien?

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That's -

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Yeah.

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I went to this intergalactic space station where they negotiated treaties.

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Who are you like best?

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Another question, if you're taking this seriously, is like,

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oh, on what authority are those treaties held?

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Totally.

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Who enforces contract law in space?

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Contract law?

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Contract law.

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We're really worried about contract law here?

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Is there -

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That must mean -

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Who's the JAG officer for space?

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Well, that must mean, if there's other alien races coming to this space station

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for a negotiation, that must mean that we are already in a universal government.

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Correct.

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Like, there must already be a one - not one world.

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A united galactic -

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Because otherwise, none of this could be enforceable in any way.

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Of course not.

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Okay, so we break a contract.

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Do we get blown up?

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I mean, maybe not blown up, but there'd have to be some sort of a penalty.

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There'd have to be some sort of consequence.

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From whoever can enforce these contracts.

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Exactly.

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That would be something I'd like to hear.

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But something else I'd like to hear is, what's your favorite alien?

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Who's your favorite?

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Yeah.

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Dan, we have a ready-made answer for the question if anybody's asked you.

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Spider leadership.

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You like the feline?

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Oh, yeah.

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The Contessa's?

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Yeah, of course.

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And I'm a dog merchant.

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You're a mercantile dog.

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Yeah, of course.

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Well, Randy, he doesn't realize that that's an actual question that's being asked to him.

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Of course.

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But it is.

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Who are your favorites?

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Oh, gosh.

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I mean, on Star Trek, I used to like on the old series, The Little Tribbles.

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Oh, no.

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You know, who are the most interesting and the ones that you like?

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Or do you like them all?

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You know, as a person who has always been very sort of like science motivated.

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I mean, I was a nerdy science kid, you know, from the get-go.

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And so I was always fascinated and interested, no matter what, no matter what they looked

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like, no matter where they were from, no matter what their behavior was.

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I was always fascinated and interested to understand what in the world it was like.

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All right.

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So you're a diplomat.

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You're a diplomat.

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You're a diplomat.

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And you like them all.

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Yeah.

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That's like, all right.

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All right, man.

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Whatever.

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I was just looking for a fucking answer.

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Yeah, we were going to have fun.

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Yeah.

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You're being a dick right now.

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So there's another issue that comes up here.

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And I think this is another really important point that a good, at least a decent interviewer

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would ask that never comes up in other places like Project Camelot.

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And that is like, okay, you were on Mars.

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You're doing all this shit on Mars.

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We just had a Rover go there and we saw pictures of Mars.

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Right.

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It doesn't look like anything like what you're talking about.

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That's a problem.

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When we get these orange pictures back from Mars from NASA, they're all orange tinted

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and it looks like rubble up there.

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I mean, there are some people who say that they can see figures and various other things,

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but, you know, it looks like rubble mostly.

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Just nothing in particular.

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You're saying it's actually-

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I don't know.

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I thought it was a really great picture that came off the JPL that had a rodent tucked

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between two rocks.

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Well, people different about what it was.

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There have been lots of photographs like that.

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I thought that was a really-

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Of a woman in an evening gown, supposedly.

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Yeah, that was more fuzzy.

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But the rodent on the ground, I mean, it looked like a giant rat squirrel there next to a

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rock.

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I mean, I thought that was way less fuzzy and way less questionable.

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All right.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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There was-

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Then why don't you ever talk about how big the rodents on Mars are?

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That doesn't seem to be central in the narratives, but maybe it will be eventually.

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So many goddamn rodents on Mars.

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And, finally, the lunar rover picked one up.

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Don't worry about all the technology that I said was there.

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Did you see?

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There was a rodent in between two rocks.

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Yeah.

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That's true.

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That's it.

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So this is how things end.

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Listen, we've got to go, but Captain Randy Kramer, I have a million more questions I've

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no time to ask you.

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Thank you very much, and please take care.

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Oh, you can have me back any time.

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That's the end.

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No.

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You can come back any time.

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I will come back any time.

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Bye.

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So I think this is really interesting, and I really do appreciate Robert sending this

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suggestion over.

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But as we come to the end, I don't think that this is a good option for Wacky Wednesday

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in the future.

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We can't also make fun of somebody with somebody else.

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Well, it's also, from the one glimpse of this, it's unclear if he's making fun of Randy.

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Sure.

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Because he does talk to fucking John Rappaport and David Icke.

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Right.

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So who knows what kind of actual standards he has.

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That's fair.

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It sounds like he's making fun of Randy.

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It would be so hard for me to believe that he wasn't.

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Yeah.

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Me too.

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It'd be really tough.

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Me too.

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I think that this is necessarily a good option for us to cover for the reason that I kind

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of laid out earlier, which is he asks follow-up questions and presents this guy, who we've

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seen on Project Camelot, in a light that the audience can then make up their mind.

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Sure.

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That is all I ask of people who are doing Space Weirdo or this kind of interview.

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Right.

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That's how you do an interview like this responsibly.

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You push back on ideas that are outlandish.

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If someone's being too offensive, you probably end the interview.

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Those are just sort of like you can talk to people.

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You could even interview horrible people like Gavin McGinnis.

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You can do it if you do it in a responsible way.

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From this one...

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Politely leave them out to dry.

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For this one glimpse that I have of Howard Hughes, it appears that...

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He did a good job.

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That seemed to be what he was doing.

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He pushed back on these completely absurd points.

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He tried to get some details.

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The details probably weren't coming.

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It was polite.

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He said, you're kidding.

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At the end, it does seem like his questions become less serious because I think he's like,

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oh, okay.

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I get what's going on.

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I don't want to be a total asshole to this guy and be like, you're full of shit.

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That's not the brand.

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That's not the program that he's running.

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But who's your favorites?

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That's a great question.

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No, no, no.

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If you're trying to be a dick.

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It's an even greater question just because if you're taking that into just terrestrial

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life, can you imagine a journalist talking to somebody at a diplomat at the fucking UN

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being like, hey, who's your favorites?

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You like Germany?

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Who's your favorites?

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Just give me some of your faves.

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Well, yeah.

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That's a dick question and you know it.

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I guess so.

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Yeah, come on.

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But Randy didn't experience it that way.

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Of course not.

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No.

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Because he doesn't get that.

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No.

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So anyway, I appreciate it, but I don't know if I'm going to...

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I think it's a great episode.

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I think it's fun to listen to and to get some more information about soul juice and med

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beds.

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I love soul juice.

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But we will have to probably keep looking for a new wacky thing.

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Just going to Google soul juice and see what comes up.

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But before we get out of here, Jordan, let's take a little time to listen to some voicemails.

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That'd be great.

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Hi, Chad guys.

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I'm a letter carrier in a small town currently sitting in a park on my lunch break.

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I just wanted to thank you for keeping me sane while I deliver the mail.

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But also, and more to the point, ask, should I get a tattoo of a portrait of my D&D character

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or just wasn't symbolizing it?

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I didn't know an actual portrait of him would be a little bit too much.

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Anyway, thanks again.

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Have a good day.

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I feel like that's a question for you.

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That's more in your vein.

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Personally, I am against portrait tattoos.

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I'm all about symbols.

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I'm against portrait tattoos.

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I don't know what it is.

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I just think the representation of a face is so iffy.

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Unless the face itself is a symbol.

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Could be.

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But I mean, even then, when you're going to an artist, faces are tough to tattoo.

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You're just thinking of Roger Stone.

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Well, I don't want a Nixon on you.

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If your D&D character is Nixon, you know where to put it.

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On your back.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I kind of agree with you, I think.

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Yeah.

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Also, shout out to our mail carriers out there.

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100%.

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Alright.

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Please survive.

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Hi guys.

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My name is Rashawn.

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I am a long time listener, second time caller because I freaked out and hung up a second

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ago.

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So I'm sorry about that.

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But I just wanted to call and first off, say that I really enjoy the podcast.

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I think that what y'all do is very important as far as shining a light onto the way that

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conspiracy culture kind of exists and how it propagates in America.

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And I think that what y'all do really is important as far as showing people how these, how like

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extreme views and conspiracy views, how they can be birthed, how they can continue, how

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they propagate and perpetuate from one person to the next.

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I think that's marvelous.

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Alex used to be a very different person back when I first encountered him.

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I remember watching that documentary Secret Rules of the World, the Bahamian Grove episode

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where Alex goes to Bahamian Grove with BBC reporter, or he's an English journalist, John

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Ronson.

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So you have Alex's documentary Dark Secrets inside Bahamian Grove, which is still on YouTube.

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That was actually filmed at the exact same time as John Ronson's Secret Rules of the

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World episode, which is also on YouTube.

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And it's just remarkable to look at the difference between how Ronson reports Alex's daring

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raid, so to speak, and how Alex reports it.

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That could be a fun, wacky Wednesday thing for y'all to do where you watch both and just

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compare them.

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I don't know.

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Whatever you do, I'm going to be listening, I'm going to be supporting.

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Y'all have a good one and stay safe up there.

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Bye-bye.

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Thank you.

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Yes, thank you very much.

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As to that, we've talked a bit about Alex and John Ronson's different takes on Bahamian

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Grove, so unfortunately, that would be redundant as a wacky Wednesday.

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But I do like the suggestion nonetheless, and thank you for...

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Yes, thank you very kindly.

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Hey, Dan Jordan, this is Griffin calling out of California.

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It's been referenced a few times, but Jordan keeps saying he has an Andrew Jackson joke.

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I was just wondering, could he say that on the podcast?

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I'm super curious now to know what it is, and I'm sure there's a few other people who

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are equally curious.

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I don't think I'll be getting out to Chicago anytime soon, and even though I was, I'm not

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sure if Jordan would be performing that night.

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So if the bit isn't too long, or if Jordan is not opposed to it, could we hear that bit?

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Thank you.

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Do the bit.

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No.

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Do the bit.

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It is one, it's one way too long, and two, stand up is not done on a podcast.

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But if you want to hear that bit, I'm pretty sure I have a clip of me doing stand up, and

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I'm pretty sure it's on one of them.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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No, I won't do the bit.

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I'm not going to do the bit.

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All right.

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Okay.

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Hey, Dan and Jordan.

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This is Katie from Oklahoma City.

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I'm really glad that y'all created this phone line, because I didn't know, I never wanted

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to tweet this out, but I've had this burning question forever about Alex.

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He's going to have like a water sports or like urine fetish, right?

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Because he talks about it all the time.

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He, it seems, he's, it just seems like he's way too fixated on it for it not to be a huge

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hang up for him in some way.

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He like, it's in like the technocrat drops, it's like he talks about globalists pissing

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on people all the time, and it's, I find it really gross, but it's just, it comes up so

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frequently.

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I'm convinced there's something there.

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I wonder if y'all have ever talked about it.

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I know it's kind of weird and gross, but I'd love to hear your thoughts.

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Love the show.

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Bye.

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First of all.

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Yes.

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No kink shaming.

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Exactly.

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Second, yeah, I mean, he, he talks about the globalists pissing on us all the time.

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He's got a scatological thing that he returns to repeatedly, yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's hard to say if it's a preoccupation or if it's just like, ah, this is my way of

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saying disrespect, because he often talks about it in the form of like female politicians

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pissing on him, like AOC or Hillary.

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He talks about that a lot, which I don't know, I'm not ready to ascribe that to be some kind

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of a sexual thing for him.

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But it is, it's, of shows that I've ever listened to, he is the most frequent person who brings

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up people.

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100%.

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But it is a family show.

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I would say that I, I see some, some sort of dominance thing there.

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So I don't know if it's escalated to actual water sports, but there's definitely DOM circumstances

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going on there.

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I can only imagine.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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Anyway.

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Hi guys.

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Long time listener.

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First time caller.

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I've always wanted to say that.

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I'll be honest, I'm really only doing this to terrorize one of my friends.

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And I felt like you guys would appreciate that.

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So, uh, door magic, I'm in your podcast now, thanks guys and keep up the great work.

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I don't know if I should encourage that kind of behavior, but I decided what the hell.

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I mean, we don't negotiate with terrorists, but I don't know if we flatly deny them.

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Making your friend frustrated by leaving a message.

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I guess.

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I think that's kind of fun.

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That's fair.

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I'll allow it.

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There are worse things.

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I was wondering, hearing about all the news about the plants, if Dan or Jordan has ever

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heard of the game Stardew Valley.

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If not, it is on the Switch, and I highly recommend you guys look into it.

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It's comfy as fuck.

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Have a great day guys.

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Ah, yes.

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I have played Stardew Valley.

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Oh, have you?

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Yeah.

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It was one of the first games I played on the Switch.

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Oh, no, that's right.

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Now I remember.

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I was thinking of the one with animals.

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That's got animals.

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Is that what it was?

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Yeah, it's like a farming kind of game.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah, I played it.

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It was fun.

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It was a replay value for me, but when I got it, I actually, deep in our Twitter feed,

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you can find I was posting screenshots of the game because I named all my animals after

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Infowars people.

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That's true.

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You did.

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So there's a screenshot that's like David Knight is not old enough to milk or something.

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So yeah, no, Stardew Valley was a lot of fun.

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I like that kind of thing.

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It is very mellow.

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The music is relaxing.

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It's just interesting enough because there is like a story to it kind of.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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So yeah, I enjoyed it.

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I've never played it.

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You should give it a shot.

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I might.

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It's fun.

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I don't have a Switch.

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But yeah.

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Consider porting it.

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Write some code.

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All right.

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Okay.

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I apologize for not solving my own problem.

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Yeah, one last call here.

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Okay.

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Hey, Dan.

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Hey, Jordan.

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This is Brandon.

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I'm from Chicago, but I'm living in Pittsburgh right now.

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Leave.

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Otherwise where'd you come from?

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I'm not sure.

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I just wanted to say that a couple of months ago, maybe, maybe sooner than that, you had

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been developing a narrative that Alex's show would have run out of money by now.

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And that didn't happen, and I'm mad at you, and I'm disappointed, and I deserve an apology.

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I love the show.

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Thanks.

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I am going to honor your request for an apology.

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I'm sorry about that.

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Yeah.

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You know, there was a situation where Alex was behaving in ways that were very consistent

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and very repetitively talking about how they were going out of business.

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He was being very blunt and direct and like, I can only express this as the person listening

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to it.

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It's very difficult for me to recreate that on the show, but the way that I was bringing

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it up repeatedly was reflecting how repeatedly he was bringing it up.

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And you know what?

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He was very fatalistic about it, for sure.

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Yeah, and I appreciate the call out on this, and I accept that criticism that maybe we

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allowed ourselves to buy into that a little more than we should have.

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But there is also a decent chance that he was in terrible financial straits, and some

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things were able to fix that.

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I don't know.

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It's hard.

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If there's anything I'm pretty sure we've been consistent about is, one, our predictions

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are almost always wrong.

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I say that a lot.

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And two, if we predict something, it will almost always go wrong in our faces.

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I don't know how much, you know, I certainly wasn't guaranteeing all of this, but there

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were things that were happening also that were sort of heightening that possibility.

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Like there was the fact that he got a DUI, and it looked like things were really falling

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apart for him behind the scenes.

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If there was a just and loving God, our prediction would have come true.

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Yeah, and then there was the situation with his bankruptcy hearing, which granted, did

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not end up bankrupting him.

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But his wife was suing him for involuntary bankruptcy that could have ended up costing

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him like three quarters of a million dollars.

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There were these things that were real, that were happening kind of around the same time,

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and I think that I've learned a little bit of a lesson, and that is that even when things

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look really bad, I'm not going to buy into it.

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I'm going to try and do a better job of not letting myself get caught up in the, oh, what

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if?

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Sure.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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I think that it's a fair criticism to say that I probably did get a little bit more

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into like, he's going to fucking eat, he could be out of business.

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Yeah, and then look, we're allowed to be excitedly wrong.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But at the same time, I have no problem with recognizing that in that excitement, we can

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look back on it and be like, we got carried away a little bit with what could be fantasy

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booking Alex's bankruptcy.

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I'm not going to defend my predictions.

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I appreciate that.

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Indeed.

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We are called out.

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So we'll be back, Jordan, but until then, we have a website.

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We do have a website.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep.

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We're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at Knowledge Fight and I go to bed Jordan.

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Yep.

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We're on Facebook.

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We are on Facebook.

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If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area and help out people

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doing the best they can.

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Yep.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm Dizzy X. Clark.

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I'm Daryl Rundis.

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I am Soul Juice.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.