Transcript/178: Rowdy Roddy Piper w/ Marty DeRosa

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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight

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I'm Dan today

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Jordan is he's had a nice weekend out of the Chicago improv doing some stand-up comedy

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It's his schedule was too

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Compact in order to get into the studio and record an episode where we would talk a bunch about Alex Jones and drink novelty beverages

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And in his absence, I'm thrilled to welcome back into the studio

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Someone who I know a few things about mmm one of them. He loves wrestling. Mm-hmm. That's about it

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What else do you know about me? Oh you're from Indiana? Yeah

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You had an obsession with tree houses as a child

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What didn't you always want to break into people's tree houses or climb up other palaces? Oh, okay fair enough as an adult

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Let's see. What else do I know about former fleshlight owner? Absolutely backyard wrestler

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That goes back into the loving wrestling and former former one-time professional wrestler

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Hurricanrana achiever hurricanrana achiever. That's that's pretty huge. I've seen three angles of that video now

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Yeah, each one better than the last still gets it's better. You were unsix unvictorious

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Along with cold cabana down in pancakes and pile drivers what they say in the wrestling business

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Dan is you go in this business on your back and you leave on your back sure you had to put the guys over

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You gotta put look

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They're gonna be here. I'm gone those kids. I'm gonna put those kids over. That's big of you

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Yeah, I respect that a whole bunch. I am on Alex Jones beardwatch. Uh-huh. Oh

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He we we joked right before we started recording that we might talk about his beard this entire time

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He when he first started right the victory beard as I called it

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Oh, yeah

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it he had one of those beard sometimes like if I have a little like if I have to shave whatever and I have like a

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Five day growth or something. I'm like, this looks cool

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He has the one he has that face that it looks like if you did an old-timey like hobo. Mm-hmm

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Like it like all he needs is like a little cigar

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Sure, you know and a bindle. Yeah bandana with all his goods wrapped in it. Like he just looks like a train wreck

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It looks like a disaster and I think someone on our Facebook group, which is called go home and tell your mother you're brilliant

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Someone on there made a good comment that this is probably his way of trying to transition into being a bald guy with a goatee

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Hey, like a cool bald goatee man. We've all been there. At least I have I have I think I probably actually did do that

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In like high school cuz I used to shave my head in high school

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Yeah, like a like you got a good you got a good head for a buzz cut. No, no you do

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No, sir, you should see the bags. You don't know yet that we got the Pete

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We do have the widows see good man

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I have a widow's peak up front, but then I have the fat rolls on the back of the hood

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What are you know my head just looks like like a horizontal but there's some stuff in the back of my head that I'm like

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You know what? It don't matter. We're just gonna have to go BAM BAM Bigelow wrinkles. Not really just a little weird like bump

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I got a little bump. There's a single bump. Just a single bump. Is that from taking taking a bump?

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No, it's like a bone. It's like a bone. Oh shit, but you know, I don't have I don't have those Joe Rogan hair transplant scars

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That's good. I saw him the other day and he was like Alex. I love you. I saw that on the love you

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You're my best friend. Like you love on the Joey Diaz episode. Yeah. Yeah, that was pathetic

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Although it's very weird words. Like I don't know what they were talking about before that if you could bring up the clip

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Even I don't want to I'm not gonna do that, but I'm done

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Yeah, then they kidnapped and then everyone fucked up anyway, let's talk about Alex Jones

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Like what were you talking about might just be talking about Q anon stuff

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Maybe but anyway anybody who's like Alex, you're my friend. I love you. You love Alex Jones

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Well, he loves him in the same way that like I probably love a comic. I love Joe Fernandez

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exactly

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No, like I've I can't think of a specific example and if I could it would be shitty to name them

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But like I've probably met comedians at festivals that I haven't seen in years

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But I think of them and I'm like, I love that person. We had such a good time at X Y or Z

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yes, they have a show where they're

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racist and

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You're too busy to watch that show though. You're doing eight podcasts a week yourself. I don't know man

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I guess they're they seem cool to me. That's my favorite. I say comedy term, but it's probably in every every branch of life

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I don't know. They've always been cool to me, right? That's like you like Alex Jones. He's a monster

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I don't know. He's always been cool to me. That's a coward's way. That's how we end up in the situation

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I hate that. Yeah, it's so bad. So unless that person has been cool to me. I don't know

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Yeah, other people's experiences are second hand and there's some digress II kid who was like, I don't know Drake was cool to me

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Sure, Rick was cool. Rick was cool. Rick was cool to somebody. He's friends with Toby

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Anyway, Toby sucks. Fuck Toby always

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So Marty, yes, it's a thrill to have you back in the studio. I'm going in blind. I don't know what we're doing

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No one knows

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It's it's actually it's a you know

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I found something that is almost not to be believed quite frankly and we'll get into it here in a few but I was actually

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I was thinking a little bit and I wanted to talk to you

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Because I have been thinking about the the art of healing. Okay, not like

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Medicine sure, but like stones or anything like that. Not not like Reiki

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Okay, but like the the nature of the heel and in wrestling. Oh, okay

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Okay, and the how it's the harder story to tell probably than the the face

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There's a face. Here's my theory. You can correct me if I'm wrong

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Sure, so much of what a face does relies on sort of natural charisma

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Amplifying natural charisma to get people to like you to get them like the crowd to want to see this person defeat the heel

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Okay, the heel has to sort of hit buttons

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Fairly specific buttons that they wouldn't probably want to make people feel okay like back in the day

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There would be people who played racist angles in order to like and they're they may not be racist themselves, right?

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But they're doing that to try and trigger the audience to hate them and then also the other aspect of it

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So they're playing against themselves to a certain extent and then also I think it's a more compelling narrative thing

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Because it allows for redemption narratives whereas with the hero it can only be like well

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I don't like them as much as I used to

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Whereas coming out of the hole of being someone who the audience hates coming up to like now we like you

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Yeah, I think it's just I think it's much more interesting and much more difficult. I don't know well

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What do you what are your thoughts? I've never seen you take notes on this podcast

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Danny

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in this day and age it's it's

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Very hard to have defined roles as as heels the bad guys baby faces the good guys

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Oh really in like a WWE male good females bad females, whatever

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So back in the day it was Hulk Hogan was the good guy

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Sure, and you know, sergeant slaughter was the bad guy or the chic or the chic, you know, so that was well-defined

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But somewhere along the lines of when we started getting into like the the late 90s the attitude errors they call it. Mm-hmm

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You had what was kind of called the cool heel right like DX. Yeah, but now this happened back in the day because

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Like the four horsemen, so if you'd watch old nwa old school world championship wrestling

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There would be guys wearing suits in the front row and they would all be throwing up the four horsemen symbol

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Dusty Rhodes started getting booed a lot

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Hogan would get booed sometimes. So there was this this thing where it was like, okay, okay

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One of the things that led to it was the good guy had to be kind of naive sometimes, right?

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Don't be a little like sting would always be I'll be your partner sure and then they would turn on him

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It's like sting you're a dummy

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So if you watch for any extended period of time you kind of get like why am I cheering for this guy's dumb?

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It's like idiot. You're gonna team up with the guy. That's a big problem in wrestling is continuity. Yeah

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It's like yeah, it's they don't give a shit

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But with the cool heel and then it's like the NWO and then it's like oh shit more people are wearing the bad guys shirts

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and

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They would come out and go you here to see

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WCW like this hillbilly company

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And everybody would go crazy

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Also the big thing in wrestling. Do you let me just real quick. Do you think that that's a function of

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Changing

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Dynamics or just not having good

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Faces for them to go no

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I think it was I think it was just kind of the changing dynamics because it was like the Sopranos were popular

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I was asking as a sincere question

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I have no idea cuz you get a lot of this antihero and that was the big thing all the all the bad

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You know what? I mean? It's like just look at any genre. It's like people like Deadpool. Mm-hmm

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They're like Superman that much anymore. Okay, he's a weenie. Yeah Deadpool's cool. He calls people, you know dickheads and stuff

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That pool would punch a Nazi. Yeah, and then

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I mean like Captain America. Yeah, I don't know but like and then there's guys who and then now fans are a little more

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Smart that's what we say in wrestling. They're more smart. Uh-huh

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So we know when it's like you're pushing like Roman Reigns is a prime example

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If you don't know Roman Reigns Vince McMahon always has is like number one. This is my number one face of the company guy

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It was Hulk Hogan. Then it was a warrior

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Stone cold the rock. This is the guy who he's like when you think of my company

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This is the guy so who I want on like Good Morning America. Absolutely. Absolutely and

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For a ton of different reasons. It's been like the perfect storm of bad reasons or bad

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Bad happenstance for this guy is kind of like Murphy's law with this guy. It's like anytime the way here we go

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Fans are like, yeah, but this so we don't like him even more now. Mm-hmm

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Where the damn vest won't stop wearing the vest kept the music of the shield

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The Daniel Bryan thing. There's just so many things that was just like everyone's like I fuck Roman Reigns

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I think he's great. I think he's great wrestler

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But they're just like nope. He's the guy and the fans don't want to be told I do like how he talks his arm

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I always whenever I watch it. I love that whenever I watch at home. I always go like he's cocking it

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I like I've actually told you some really

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Some opinions that you have been violently opposed to that I have turned out to be correct on which is one of them

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Was that I really like John Cena back when everyone was hating him and you were you're like, okay

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You shouldn't like him. Well, the other one was Elias when he first showed up. I was like, this is awesome

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You called Elias Dan. Yeah, there's some guys who just are made for the main roster and Elias is one of them

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There was a third one too, and I can't remember what it was

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But there's a third one that you were like, nope. This guy sucks. I'm like, are you you shut your mouth?

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Look, I can be turned on my decisions. I can be I can be shown the right way and in in

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Elias's direction

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He's got to get better in the ring

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But otherwise, he's he's a guy true heel but now but see that but now people are starting to like him exactly

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So it's tough and to be a good heel a lot of times

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You eventually have to like get your comeuppance that's why a lot of people don't like Stephanie McMahon

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She's a heel but she never gets her comeuppance except from rowdy Ronda Rousey

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Yeah, but but then she was on TV a couple weeks later the next night

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She didn't have a broken shit at a broken arm. Absolutely, you know, it's all that stuff need the window dressing

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Yeah, so I'm sorry. Go ahead

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Well, I'm just it's just one of those things where like that old Batman saying it's like you're the hero long enough until you become

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The villain there are just like beloved like Tanahashi in Japan who's like the Hulk Hogan the John Cena Japan

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Mm-hmm after a while people kind of start booing him Okada was the champ for a while after a while people stopped booing

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It started booing him. Mm-hmm. It just happens

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Yeah, I can see that so that leads me to my question that I was trying to sorry that was long

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No, very interesting stuff

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And I think I think it's I think a lot of people wish for life to be a lot like

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Wrestling in terms of that like, you know

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The bad guy having a redemption like I know a lot of people ask me about like do you think there was any point where?

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It's possible for Alex to turn face. It was that he had that window. I don't think so

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No, I don't I think from what I've gleaned from studying 2009. I think he was a white supremacist from day one

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Really? Yeah, I don't think there's any like I think I think there's a lot of things that people missed

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I'm his language and he was on board

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Well, I can tell too when he brings up growing up and his his relationship with black people growing up clearly

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Oh boy, there's been some some things I bet and it was probably like I'm the victim of it when I was a kid

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I bet he got a cup. I bet I don't know if it maybe it was

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He yelled the other word at a guy I bet I bet it was just one good ass-kicking

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Yeah

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and I bet I bet like I bet here's what I bet one black guy beat up like Alex and

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Three or two of his friends and they ran away and he got me at the brunt of it. It's possible

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I mean, I don't who knows no one would be able to tell now

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Yeah, but he grew up in Rockwall, Texas and I looked it up because it's a big suburb of Dallas now

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But he grew up there in the 70s

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1970 census the population was 3,100 people like it was a small suburb that probably was you know

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formulaic houses

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Magic-mansion type houses sure people didn't want to live in Dallas now because the population was too high and too urban

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Yep, that's my guess. So his all his stories about growing up are all stupid

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But the reason I bring this up all of this we had a game we'd play we'd punch the walls hardest we could

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After the Motley Crue concert, it's a good game. That's a good game

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Oh, man that for everyone who hasn't listened to all of our episodes

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That is a real that is a real thing Alex talks about showing how tough they are by punching a steel door

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Not as a kid. No, it was as an adult as an adult. Sometimes you get a little rowdy

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I get it Alex. Sometimes me and my friends get rowdy and drunk and we chop each other at bars

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You know what? I mean? So Marty, this is what I want to get to

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Yes, who are your top five heels of all time in the WWE WCW?

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Era, I was gonna say Roger Stone number one. Roger Stone is the best heel in the game right now

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Absolutely, and I always talk about this. He's the Ric Flair of infowars. He's a dirty player

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You know how Starbucks shut down for a day and they made everybody have those like race relations things

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if I ran

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MSNBC

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CNN all those guys I would sit them down. They would shut down for one day

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We would watch that Roger Stone documentary. Uh-huh get Roger Stone and we would just be like, this is the playbook

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You guys are not playing by the playbook. Mm-hmm. Some guys are Sam Cedars, dude. Yeah. Yeah, Michael Brooks and see that's the dude

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That's the deal of anybody. That's the dude. Yeah. Yeah, but all these other people. Okay, top five heels

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Alright now someone would say if you're a great heel, you shouldn't get cheered. Sure. You should be

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sincerely hated sure and and

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So right now Tommaso Ciampa. Mm-hmm one of the best on an NXT down in NXT

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It's got a got a championship match coming up against Aleister black my boy

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So he is awesome for so many reasons

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Unfollowed everybody on Twitter. That's right. I understand. He had done follow me. I understand

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Former wrestling with depression guests. It's very sad. Very very nice guy, but I don't know this

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I don't know this version of time

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Okay, he did throw a chair at my head at a show one time but that he was nice about those things happen. So

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Just a dick on Twitter

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Uh, he wears this t-shirt. He goes, I bet you want this t-shirt. Guess what? It ain't for sale. That's awesome

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Forgoing the t-shirt sales. I saw I saw that match with Johnny Gargano where he came out with no music

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Yeah, just everyone booing him. No music just

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Batista had a heel run. No music. He would sit in the room

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Oh just so good. So good our Austin back in the day when he was a bad guy. He became a chicken shit

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Mmm, you can't be stone cold. I'll whip everybody's ass. He was a chicken shit

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He would complain one of my favorite promos he ever cut and my friend and I reference this all the time

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He just after just a rough day

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He just got in the rings getting his ass kicked by everybody and he's got in the ring and he's like

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My name is stone cold Steve Austin

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I'm a former four-time WWF champion and I don't deserve this and it was low the best right so of all time flare

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Cuz flare was another one of those guys where he would piss you out cuz he would do

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Roger Stone of wrestling he would do everything he could to cheat to win and you'd be like my stone

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I paid money which is at the end of the day in wrestling what you want you want

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People to want to pay money to see you lose. Mm-hmm or to see you win

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So I paid multiple times thinking this is Lex Lucas time. Uh-huh. This is staying gonna get him in the rack

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This is you know, Brian Pillman's they're gonna win and I cannot fucking wait

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So flare and again also just to make the Roger Stone comparison even further both of them glamour pusses

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Yeah, for sure fancy dresser for sure

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And you don't have to put these in order. No, no. Yeah, so flare for sure one of the and this is kind of modern-day

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Or in the last, you know sort of our lifetime. Yeah flare another four horsemen Tully Blanchard

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Okay, Tully Blanchard was one of the four horsemen most known

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For like being partners with Arne Anderson and having just this was a guy who people

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Fucking hated. There's some guys in wrestling where I forgot who

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Lance storm there was Lance storm is a great wrestler, but a trainer also

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he's a little more now known for being a great trainer and

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He was telling Dolph Ziggler

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like there was like a hip toss or something which is a move that the good guys do more than the bad guys and he

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Even told him he goes don't even worry about really nailing this move down because people are gonna just always hate you, you know

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Which is like you just have one of those fucking faces. People are gonna hate Tully Blanchard King

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But like no one ever was like one day we want to really cheer him like just no redeeming qualities

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I just a total piece of garbage. I think my only knowledge of him is from when you made me watch that like heroes of

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Wrestling. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was which was a disaster

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He had a funny story where they when Ted Turner bought WCW

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They were like guys we're having a meeting. Everyone's gonna get interviewed

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Nobody will know your answers. We just want to talk to you and they're like Tully

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What's what's what needs to be fixed about this company?

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He's like get Dusty Rhodes the fuck out of booking this fucking guy. All he does is put himself over dead

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Uh, they're like they told us

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You got a raw deal there, but Tully Ric Flair

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Uh Tully Blanchard, then there's like the heels that are red-hot because of like the political climate

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Okay, so the Russians back in the day sure. Oh my god

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Like any Russian really any but like Nikita Kolov back in the day the Russian nightmare. This guy came out of nowhere

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He was jacked. He was as big as he could hang with the road warriors. He was a monster, right?

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He was awesome. Oh

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Let's see who else let's go modern right now

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It's tough now cuz everyone's so like who cares about the last like let's say ten years. Yeah

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Who cares about it? Yeah now it's more like a sport where it's just like, you know what I mean? It's like this I thought

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I'm trying to think like I mean

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There's been there's also where you have to talk about like there's the the heel heat which is like yeah

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We want to see him beat. Mm-hmm. And then there's the like

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Go away. Well, we didn't want you here

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He Jeff Jarrett back in the day when they were trying to build DNA or at the end of WCW

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when that guy would win there's a there's a

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TNA pay-per-view where you had to like hang the belt

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It was such a fucking Russo like would book these this guy Vince Russo who would tell people what to do or here's my plan

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Famous for convoluted ways to win a match

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so they in in wrestling they have this fun match called the ladder match where they hang the title from the seal it from a

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Like a rope and you got to climb a ladder and pull it down. That's me. That's simple

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Yeah

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this one you had to like pin a guy to be able to put the title on the thing and like

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There at one one time everyone starts throwing garbage in there and you just hear everyone just like oh

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You know Raven and ECW had a real moment where he was awesome. Yeah, Tommy Dreamer was the good guy

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It was perfect. It was fantastic

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Nowadays too it's like you'll hear the old wrestlers be like the wrestlers nowadays are free

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They don't want that heat of like we're gonna cause a fucking riot

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Yeah, because back in the day when people didn't know it was real or you know, predetermined whatever you want to call it

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They thought it was real

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And you know somebody would do something and it's just like holy shit

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They're just like this old wrestler. He's like when they're making a lot of noise, you know

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You're doing a good job goes when you know, you're being a real bad dude you hear nothing

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That's when they're running running out of the ring. Yeah, you gotta fight your way out and stuff

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Yeah, I can see the gears turning in your head because you can tell that there's an answer

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I hope you say and you aren't coming up like you're I can tell you see like well Vince Vince was one of the worst

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Well, sure. Sure. Mr. McMahon run. Mr. McMahon. Well, I'll tell you haven't you haven't named who I was hoping you name

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But I will say that Colter I am now open I say Zeb Colter to tie this into Alex

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I am now going to make Alex Jones the greatest heel to you and your fans

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And a lot of our listeners who love wrestling. Okay with this clip

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And all of this is going on. He got about you know, a large portion of the audience that thinks it's real

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I've known adults that will call in and go it's real. No. No, it's real. It's real

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Yeah, I'm like really

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I've seen somebody body slammed who was in a coma, you know, this is not real

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Okay, I'll assure you grown men who are six foot eight pounding each other in the face one time bloods gonna be pouring everywhere

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No, but almost all these folks never been in a real fight

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That's they're like little arrested development toddling bellies, you know who were like we're gonna go to them ever white Hispanic black

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It's like it's the same. They look the same. They act the same. It's real. Let's go watch the big guy fun

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It's real me. Most of them got about 80 IQs that they're borderline

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One second only retarded. I'm very sad about this. What's up, so

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Add to the list of black-eyed beating up Alex

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Alex was also beaten up by a wrestling pro wrestler probably a fan of the von Erich's back in the day and he does in

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This in this extended rant that he does. He does bring up watching the von Erich's when he was younger

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This was taken from an episode where he got really mad because Zeba Coulter and Jack Swagger

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Got introduced as racist characters and apparently a piece of their character was that they liked Alex Jones. Sure

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So he was doing the we the people gimmick. He was

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Furious about that and he goes on to like scream about like Vince McMahon as an establishment Republican. Sure

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His dumb wife running for Senate now is a member of a member of the cabinet

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So that that was that was one piece

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But I will say I wanted to talk about that and I thought that that would be our episode today

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But I listened to it and it really wasn't all that interesting and the way

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He talked about a bunch of other stuff mixed in it was just like yeah

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This isn't this we our last episode that we did was when Kane was on. Yeah, that was super exciting

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We got to see the demon mayor back in full force team with Daniel looking great to him. Hell no

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I saw I saw a little class baby. It's the man, but I mean his body sure

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He looks the last time I saw him. I remember him looking pretty fat. Well, he also has the singlet on now

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He's looking great and he's like 50 something

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I would love to say good luck in the mayoral race, but I know that you're a fucking stupid libertarian

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So I hope you lose. Oh, it's a slam dunk. He's gonna win. Well, that's unfortunate slammed politics suck

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So I can I talk to you about cryptocurrency or the main event picture in the WWE

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His town is going

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It's gonna be nonsense

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So I realized that that episode where he's complaining about Jack Swagger being sort of related to him somehow and he's like I

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Remember when that was going on in wrestling and like Jack Swagger was not like the main event. No, no, no

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No, no, and Alex is presenting it as he's the big bad guy of the of the WWE now

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And he's also presenting it as most of his character is about liking Alex Jones. Yeah, he was upper mid card

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Sure. He was top of the middle

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And oh the other thing he's like he keeps saying is every night he goes out and gets beat by a Mexican

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Well Del Rio and then they joined them together which made no sense

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So Zeb the manager Zeb Coulter

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Who is dirty Dutch man tell that's his old name that dude used to wrestle in Puerto Rico

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Yeah, I was a bad guy in Puerto Rico and it's pretty scary. I mean he'd been stabbed like that's like that guy's got stories

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I remember that the WWE put out a video or

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Maybe it was just swagger and Coulter put out a video where they're like we are playing character. They had to do that

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Yeah, that's when you know, too and that's why they broke a favor. That's why it can't get you know what I mean?

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Yeah, because you could you could incite sure something's always the most recent guy who is out there today in

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He's in the independence. He wrestles for AW where I do commentary for he's an impact wrestling

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He's all over the plug there Sammy Callahan. Mm-hmm. I know the name. I don't know. I don't know his work

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He is a guy who is like I'm gonna be real old-school on this

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So there was a match in impact wrestling where he put a chair on

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Eddie Edwards who was laying on the on the mat put a chair on his on his chest opened up chest

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Opened up the chair and he was supposed to hit the chair with an aluminum bat and that would it would make a great big

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Noise, it probably wouldn't hurt all that much. No, yeah, like whoo

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For whatever reason he didn't plan it out right and instead of hitting the chair

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He just hit him in the face boo and he busted his orbital real bad. Hmm and Sammy instead of being like, oh man

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I'm so sorry just went on Twitter and he's like it's wrestling tough shit. Sorry

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Like I hit you a big deal. What are you gonna do about it? And people were like, no

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That is not cool. He was like, I'm fucking leaning into this. I'm gonna be bad guy

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I think that's probably a good thing for the the act of the art

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But then sometimes it goes too far and then they have to be like hey, man

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I'm playing a character like well when you're when you're inciting racial hatred, they're going to our ease the Devar is recently

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Yeah, when they were in the gray

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Well, they were in the greatest Royal Rumble in Saudi Arabia and they were they came out and they cut these

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promos

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The Iran yeah, and and they were like, hey man, I'm splitting character. I mean no harm or did it

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Uh, yeah, so that's the deal back in the day was like yeah, man, like there was a moment where?

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Jesse Ventura apparently suggested famously. Oh, let's multiple infowars. Let's let's light the flag on fire

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It's legal now. Let's have sergeant slaughter light the flag on fire and they thought about it

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And then they ended up lighten a Hulkamania shirt on fire. I wouldn't look the flag

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I would have been fine with that if I were yeah

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There was a group called the un-americans post 9-11 and they were gonna lay the flag on fire

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That's bad timing

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There was a cool one back in the day with again Devar Sean Devar II was the manager of Muhammad Hassan

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Yeah, and they it was after 9-11 and they were like they had an interesting see it's like a bad guy in a movie

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It's like a heel should think he's right

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Yeah, yeah, and he was like I didn't change you guys changed the way you looked at me

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This isn't on me

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His whole his whole thing if I recall was that like he was a he was a bad guy because of everyone hating him

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Yes, he's a Muslim

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He's like I used to go to airports all the time and there was no problem

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but now I go to airport and you're all looking at me and pointing at me and stuff like that and he was kind of

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Like this is on you not me and then you know

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But then there's the extreme thing where like a big trope and wrestling would be

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A foreign wrestler beats up American takes their flag puts it over them as the show goes off the air

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Oh my god, you know

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There was as if it was a burial shroud sure and that and then

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What was the end of the Muhammad Hassan character was?

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They had filmed they used to smack done used to be taped on Tuesday and it would air on Friday

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Yeah, when this happened, so they had done an angle where Muhammad Hassan was feuding with the undertaker

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and

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Choked him out with these like terrorist guys that came in the ring

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They all had like all covered and balaclavas

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Oh and well

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They were more like tactical like they had like black hoods on and stuff like black tactical ski masks and black like shield like gear

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full fully covered

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And then after they choked out the undertaker

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They carried his body like you would see

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You know, what do they call it in the Middle East when like somebody they like parade them through the streets?

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they have them held up and it's like a

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Terrorist II type of like tribute thing or something

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I don't know if that's a thing and I don't know if it if it is a thing

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I don't know the name of have you ever seen that where they came through the streets?

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But anyway, I mean, it's just a funeral procession. I imagine well they and this was right after the London bombings

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Yeah, seven seven

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I think right after it happened the USA Network's like you got to get rid of this guy not

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Repackage him not make him a you know, now I'm a now I'm a rapper, you know guys I was wrong

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It was like get him you got to get him out of here. Yeah, that was it. That sucks

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Yeah, well, that's some good. I mean, that's you know, we've had now had a good 25 minutes of heel talk

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Yeah, and it's all been leading up to

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What I think is one of the weirder

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things I've ever found in my

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Diving into infowars and that is that one of the great heels of the wrestling past

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Was a surprise guest on infowars and I'll let you deal with this as it plays

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It's super exciting to have rowdy roddy Piper on with us today

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From Los Angeles there and Sean Stone's living room. Both guys are with us and you know, it's great

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I've gotten to be good friends with Jesse Ventura

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I know these two guys are friends as well or have been in the past

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And so now I get to talk to both of them and mr. Piper a formerly of course, uh born Roderick George tombs

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It is great to have you on the worldwide broadcast, sir. Thank you very much for having me

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Uh, would you mind just introducing me every place I go?

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Boy charmed him

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But also I would say that that's probably rowdy roddy Piper's standard response because that was a terrible introduction star of documentary

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They live that's gonna cut that's gonna

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But all he says for an introduction there not is like, you know, one of the great one of the great at all time

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someone who

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If not, oh, I forgot to mention Piper is one of the greatest heels of all time

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That's what I was trying to lay him to so dumb. That's what I damn it, Dan

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But you just got caught up in all the other great heels. Yeah

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But like if I also watched some of rowdy's old stuff. Oh boy. Yeah, he would tip

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I mean, I was gonna say tip to around racial stuff. No, he was

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And homophobic like crazy sure sure sure, but some of the racial shit he did like with that's cuz

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Got it. Yeah. Well, he's being bad or they shaved the mohawk into the Haiti kids head. Yeah, maybe needed a haircut

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Yeah, um the the thing that I need to really nail this down. That's terrible introduction

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All he does is say his real name and then mention that he's friends with Jesse Ventura

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Oh, wow, you went on my Wikipedia page and everything. Mr. Stone. I'm very happy to be here. Mr. Stone, mr

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Well, no, cuz Sean Stone is there. Who's that his son? No, that is Oliver Stone's kid

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Oh, okay, Oliver Stone's kid is a little bit of a little nutty been behaving himself lately. I don't know man

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I don't know what he's up to. Yeah, but you know, a lot of Oliver Stone's films are dubious in terms of their

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Historical accuracy. I'll tell you what, and his son is worse. I watched

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W. I watched the last probably 30 minutes of W at a hotel a couple weekends ago. That's the one with Brolin. Yeah

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Yeah, it is so weird. It's like watching an SNL sketch with no comedy. Ooh, it's so

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It's good. Oh

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So weird. Yeah, the woman playing Condoleezza Rice is just like it's so over-the-top and so weird and

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I will say I I watched any given Sunday a couple years ago. That's still held up. This was just like oh

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Shit. Yeah, it was so unbelievably bad. I'm thrilled to say I've never watched that it never never appeared much

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Yeah, yeah, I've seen any given Sunday and I would agree having not seen in a while. I bet it does great

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Yeah, great. I could see that. I don't I don't I wonder too though. There was that scene in there where we're W

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Which is kind of funny now that he's like lovable

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President goofball like a painter now hides under the under the raincoat with Michelle Obama and stuff

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We're trying to rehab his image, even though he's responsible for millions of death

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Well Trump Trump might reveal some news on on W. You know

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Just like he's gonna release all the JFK files just like he's going to unleash all the secret

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technology and healing machines

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Yeah, um, but fuck it if you if anybody believes that stuff sure

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I got a bridge that I like crazy though had he died on the pretzel had he choked on the press

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Oh, could you imagine?

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Like it would be like Selena, but it would have been like one of those things of just like reverse

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So you know like Selena no, I forgot whose joke it was

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Whose joke was it? This is I got I wish I maybe it was Greg Geraldo

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Where he was like everyone saying George W Bush is the worst president of all time. He was the worst

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He goes, I think the president of Selena's fan club might be a little worse. Oh

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great

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Speaking which rest in peace for adiradi Piper

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this is very sad that he was on infowars because you know what I tried to because I I

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Know I remember him as kind of a like a boozer and maybe that's not maybe that was just more his character

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He partied. I also remembered him as kind of not a good guy, but when I

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When I went and looked into it, it seems like he was a good guy. He's a good guy. He's a guy

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That's what that's what threw me for a huge. Well, here's that

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Here's the thing with Roddy is I think and he's a wrestler

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So he's gonna he's gonna put himself out there for promotion. He was had his podcast. So he was probably pushing that

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This is in 2013. Okay, so I don't know if he had a podcast

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Mean he died in 2015. Okay, then yes, then yeah, then for this then he was trying to get his podcast off the ground

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Okay, so so maybe Shawn stones helping him out. Yeah. Yep

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He's a guy who and I know a lot of people who like

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There were comics in LA who like buddied up to him and he was like, I'm open to it

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Like what if this gets the word out? Let's do it. He was you do some stand up do some stand up

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He would do shows he was into it. I remember saying that I knew a couple people who work

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Yeah, and he was like, what are we gonna do? Let's do it

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He called he was on Colts podcast couldn't have been cooler

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The young bucks talk about how who are the most popular?

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Independent tag team or wrestlers on the planet right now

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They talk about seeing him at a convention and being like, oh man this dude would like spend time with fans

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Like he wasn't just like hi, let me sign this get the fuck out of here

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He was like he would spend time with fans that like change their approach. Yeah

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I think that that was one of the things I thought was really weird

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I always had an image of him as kind of like maybe being a shithead

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It may be like someone who was arrested a bunch of times and no

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It seems like he lived a maybe a hard life, but a pretty good life. Yeah, I'm like treated people pretty well

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And that's I mean, it's not super rare in wrestling terms

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But like you always get surprised by things like I just learned recently that Kurt Angle had a bunch of duis

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Oh a bunch it was deep into drugs for years. I had no fucking idea you hear that's why he was

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Able to leave the first time they're like you got to go. Mm-hmm. I had a friend who was working this time and they're like

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They're like this was when Kurt Angle and Eddie Guerrero were feuding and they're like one or both of them are going to die

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Mm-hmm, and I was like what and they're like, they're both out of control. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh Eddie girl

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I thought you said Rey Mysterio

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I would love to imagine Rey Mysterio having these

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Matches where they were like Eddie would get in a ball and be like don't touch me and like it was it was insane

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Just like like psychosis or something just like she was so hurt. His body was just done and all this stuff

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So finally I thought you meant he was like a ball of feet. Oh, no, then finally they're like yo Kurt Angle

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You got to go to rehab and he was like, no, I'm fine. And they're like, we're gonna

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Fire you then he's like fine fire me then he went to TNA and then got a bunch of trouble there

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Yeah, and they were always like, well, you know, what are you gonna do? It's and finally got clean

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He's right. He's an example. Eddie Guerrero passed away. Yeah, that was very sad

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Yeah, but like, you know, you know, I don't know a lot of these people's personal lives

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But the ones that you hear about generally are like Eddie Guerrero

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Real tragedy you hear especially to when someone dies

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That's when you hear the one was you hear the good or bad about them or whatever the well, you know, but with Piper

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Around the around the board. Everybody was like on his side. They said he was great stood up for the wrestlers

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When you watch there's like a member wife swap when that was yeah

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Yeah, he did one shows terrifying Ric Flair and is now like fiance or whatever Fifi from WCW

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And you could tell Piper and his wife, you know, I mean I cheated whatever sir

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Everybody likes to swing they all did back in the day, but other Roger Stone parallel with Ric Flair bangers. I don't yeah, but

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You know, he seemed like he seems like a family guy and stuff

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Yeah, that kind of bums me out that he was on infowars cuz you know

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You always kind of wanna yeah, you always want to ascribe some sort of like oh, that's that's that's why he's on enforce

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He's a secret shit. I do. I do think though that Alex and

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infowars has a

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Weird thing where they can not trick or it looks legitimate enough bingo. It looks legitimate enough

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It's big enough. It's big enough. You know you because what what do people do? How many followers does he go shit?

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Okay, a couple million. Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay, and it look wow. Well, you play me. Okay. Yeah. I ain't crazy

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Yeah, Piper pilot. Yeah fucking everyone. I know it's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Well Piper's crazy. Jesse's been on it about cool

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Yeah, okay. Jesse knows what he's talking about. Yeah. Yeah, that's how people like Henry Rollins ended up being guests on sure

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What the fuck is Henry Rollins doing?

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I think there are people who do the whole like, you know, well, he's not wrong about everything

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Or there's people who are like you need to talk to these people if you just ignore if you only go on

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The Stephanie Miller show big deal. You're not changing anybody's lines, right?

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All of these theories are interesting and I wish any of them were true. Yeah, it turns out that Roddy Piper is a lunatic

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And we'll get to that here in a few but Alex for most of this interview

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It's about an hour long or so

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Most of it is him gushing about they live and talking about how much he loves they live. He's seen it a hundred times

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Of course Alex thinks it's a documentary

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And so here is Roddy talking a little bit about the history of that film

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I think this is actually kind of interesting because it gives a perspective that Alex never gives

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Well, it's great to have you on I tell you so much is happening in the world

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But let's get into they live you've been in a lot of movies

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But what's your take on the 25th anniversary of they live? It's

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really interesting the

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The movie they live when it was made was more about Reagan omics at the time

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but with the

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As the music lulls you to sleep

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Conspiracies one of the things that the movie has done is it's taken on a life of its own

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Ah, it never gets old as we see the world evolve and try to make us a little chip

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The same things happening over and over again you watch they live and it gives you it's kind of like the cliff notes

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For what's going on? I

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Think that I think that's fair. I think that what he's saying is an interesting perspective. Like I didn't necessarily ever

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Put two and two together. I haven't watched they live since I was in like in college and stoned out of my mind

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Okay, and loved it. But like I never put the pieces together that you know

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I always just thought it was kind of like a statement on consumerism

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staying on like

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artificial

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messages through

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Advertising and stuff like that. I never really put the pieces together of like a statement about Reagan omics

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I think but I think that's fascinating

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Yeah

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I think a lot of those I think this is gonna be another era like the 80s where a lot of stuff was about Reagan and

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There was that

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Reagan's America and they're like, but the real deal is this you know what I mean?

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And it was interesting like that movie

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There's a lot of movies kind of like that where I think we're gonna watch him again now

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So I was like, I'm watching a lot of these Star Wars videos. I'm into this whole do you mean movies or videos?

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No, no

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No YouTube videos all about how we need to remake the last jello and and the fandom menace and all this stuff

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I'm into it. Oh boy. I'm watching from afar, but

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uh, one of the things too though that I did hear a guy from the UK who was a movie critic and he was saying like

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Yeah, America

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He's like man

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Your movies are really you guys are like you could tell like you're these are all about Trump and not to start with just a lot

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Of stuff in general. He's like, there's a lot of political our movies are real politicized right now

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And I think it was the same thing, too

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Have you ever seen 80s? Have you ever seen those like I mean there's a genre of videos

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That is just people reacting to things. Yeah that you you see and some there

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I I've I've

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Someone in our fucking Facebook group and I'm sounding angry only because of the time I've wasted

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But like someone posted a video of the there's a series about Irish people watching

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Oh, yeah, and one the thing that they posted was Irish people watching Alex Jones

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Okay, and I was fascinated by how quickly they saw through like what is going on here?

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It's perhaps this guy is an angry bigot. Yeah, he's trying to sell things

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Yeah, like it was it was clear and I watched a couple more of them and it is fascinating how people outside of our primary

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Culture are able to see like oh my god. This is this is clearly an allegory

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I know in a way that because of our inundation and familiarity with stuff. We don't actually we don't

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Recognize as easily I think you're totally right. I think I think ten years from now

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We'll look back and be like wow, holy shit

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and that subconscious thread is through a lot and they're and they're I think a movie can be about I

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think art can reflect

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What's going on in the society at that time and there's there's been great books. There's been great movies that have done that. Yeah

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But then there it's when you beat people over the head with it and people are like, yeah, it's a little too on the nose

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That would be the case of like that Snoop Dogg video where you he puts a gun to Trump's head sure

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Bang flag comes out like that. It's like come on. I'm on Austin and Vince already did that

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Yeah, but yeah, there are those and then Pilden and Austin did it better. Yeah, they did. Well, that was big time. Yeah

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So that's a thing where it's like when it's too on the nose. Yeah, it's like I like maybe

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Reading later or watching later and you're like actually that character is supposed to be kind of based on this person and you're like, oh

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Or when it's just like get it. I'm Trump. It's like yeah, I know I know

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Yeah, there's something to be said for subtlety. Yeah, and I you know so far so good Piper. I think real quick real quick

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Yeah, the to sort of talk about that is that's like the first planet of the Apes

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yeah, which is about you know, nuclear war and all this stuff and then in the

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Second planet of the Apes. Yeah, I guess they don't really get to what happened until right

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Yeah, the second planet of the Apes is where they have like the ape hippies

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Yeah, getting rounded up and it's like now we're getting a little too. The first one was so subtle and cool

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Racism there was races. It was like about racism and stuff like that

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But then they hit you way over the head with it the third one

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Which is where they go back in time

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Zira and Cornelius go back in time and see the beginning of the beginning of it all where they were using them as slaves

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and it was like and then they have this big riot and everything and

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There was a documentary. Did you recently just watch? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. There's a documentary

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About all the planet of the Apes movies when the it was at the anniversary of the original

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Mm-hmm, I think like a knee did it and they just was so good and they were talking about how the third one at the end

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Caesar is like the new leader. Yeah, and he's like now we claim this planet and it is the planet of the Apes

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They said when they tested it that they tested it in a black

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Neighborhood and black people were going crazy. They were like, yeah, and they were like, oh no

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This is gonna cause riots and stuff. So they recut it and of course they were didn't have a lot of money

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so they weren't gonna like, you know do anything and all they did was a

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Close-up of Caesars eyes and they got the guy at the actor to come back and he goes we were a planet of the Apes

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But we can do this with humans also

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Together and we will share this planet and show them what it's right to be good or something like that

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And then that falls apart. Yeah, but but but it's all I mean fuck

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Yeah, but it's like that thing of the difference of the first one. Perfect, right second one

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It's like it's so good ape hippies like come on, man

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That's this that's the same thing as like I still like the droid and solo of like I still like all of them

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But I do too. I'll also say that the best one Mark Wahlberg won. Oh, get out of here

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I walked I I worked at a movie theater when that came out. Yeah, and at the time it was our tradition to

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Because most of the people who work there were underage. It was one of the only ways we'd really have

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We'd have booze. Yeah stuff. So what you had to screen all of the movies make sure it's okay Thursday nights before they came out

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It's so cool

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so the movies would come in as the film and then they'd get built and then once they were done getting built if

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There was an open theater

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Anyone could sign up to watch it to make sure so the projectionist would put it through and you'd watch it

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It would be a thing where all of us like some of our managers were over 21

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And so they'd buy us booze and we just have parties. Hell. Yeah, just getting drunk

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I want to work at a movie theater right now. It was so much. You made me want to movie

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I was probably like 17 18 at the time just getting drunk pre-screening these movies

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You probably saw some bad ones. Oh shit

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The what the the worst was the definitely the Planet of the Apes one with Mark Wahlberg and then there was collateral damage

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With Arnold Schwarzenegger that like we all almost like left. We're almost like this is so bad, but

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One of our managers Rick watched the Planet of the Apes one with us because he loved the old Planet of the Apes

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He was a little he's a little older

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You know, he's in probably late 20s at that time. Yeah, he appeared much older since I was a teen

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But we're all we're all drinking having a great time and then at the end

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When Mark Wahlberg comes back back to and you see the Lincoln

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Monument Memorial. Yeah, like as soon but it's an ape's head

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You only see the exterior of the building and as soon as you see it

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It's a good 30 40 seconds until you get inside and you see that it is an ape. Yeah, the whole time

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Rick is screaming Abe Lincoln

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Lincoln yeah, hold it like yeah

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What it happened everyone started throwing stuff like it was a fucking WCW show. Yeah, everyone's like

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Just joined the NWO boo a Plinkett boo-hoo. You know this trash in the ring represents these fans

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We already hated it. But that was like that was a bridge too far. Yeah, but um, all right

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So, you know the Apes made an appearance on Monday Night Raw to promote that. What? Yeah

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Yeah in care in costume the Apes the Apes came to raw. Oh, yeah, did they did they put someone over?

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Oh, I don't know. I think they might have helped somebody get a victory or something. Oh god. I

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Feel like there's no way that couldn't have been offensive somehow whoever they choose

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To have the Apes help. Yeah, I know

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Oh God knowing Vince and Russo back in the day

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They would have had them help like the nation of domination or something. Go out there and help Mark Henry

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Why does he have a kinship with Mark Henry? It's like oh god guys. No, don't make this a storyline. Don't do it

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I mean to be fair like back then everybody like the no-limit soldiers were in the WCW

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The ICP was hanging around that that was a fun thing where again in wrestling sometimes the bad guys

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Turn out to be the good guys. Mm-hmm, and they're like, well, this is what the fans wanted

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So they brought in the no-limit soldiers to WCW because then they had like Rey Mysterio and Conan were with filthy animals

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Yeah, and they thought this is gonna be huge. We got the no-limit soldiers the filthy animals

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Master P who I thought he was kind of on the downward spiral

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I didn't think he was like on top of the world or anything at the time. I don't think he was either

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they signed

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Some guys that were in his crew to like some big money this one black dude. They gave him like so much money

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swole

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And they give him a lot of that was it that if that was a recording artist that was no it was a bodyguard

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I think he was his bodyguard or something or a friend and then the opposition was this group called the

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The West Texas rednecks. Oh boy, and they it's a great song if you want to find it. It's called a rap is crap

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Kurt Henning

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Let's see. It's a Henning

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Barry Windham Kendall Windham Bobby Duncan jr. And they had a song called. I

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hate rap cuz rap

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Is crap then they made this song is a part of their feud with no-limit soldiers and it got over and the crowd loved them

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And it just completely cuz Debbie Stebbe. It's like a southern

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The rednecks ended up being much more

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Popular like crazy. No, what are you gonna do with swole? That's a disaster

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Let him hurt people or not Russell and get paid a shitload of money geez

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So all this is to say that rowdy rowdy Piper. Oh, yeah

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This is like my favorite and my worst topics because then we just go on these it's fine tangents

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I think that's the nature when you and I also I don't think I want to lose

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Respect of the hot rod. I think you can retain it because of like I think we like we said

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He probably got not tricked, but I think he was kind of like hey, however, I can get the word out

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I think you should save those judgments. I think he's kind of stupid but at the same time like

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Because he's on info wars. Yeah, it

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Kind of does highlight how like even if he is kind of stupid. Yeah, he's not as bad as the world

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He's well, and he also he also

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Claimed that when he painted half of his body black to Russell bad-news brown at WrestleMania that had nothing to do with race

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Sure, and it was I believe it. He was moonwalking and doing those staying like it was like you're dancing and stuff

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Alright, um, so at this point he said that you know, they live is about Reagan omics

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Yes, or was about it at the time, but it could be applied to anything

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Um, and now he gets on to saying some other stuff that I think based on that is stupid. Yep

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you know

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John Carpenter

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when

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We shot this scene with the homeless people. He actually used the homeless people there

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John is a big activist, you know, and I give him all the respect in the world for that

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and

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You know turning out and showing what the world become. I don't know why America has homeless people

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It's terrible, but oh really? That's interesting because you made a film about Reagan omics

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So I'd like to talk a little bit about this

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Is quite frankly one of the reasons that homelessness is such a big issue and is so

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Devastating and has been is because of Reagan his policies directly led to

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the situation that we have on our hands now and

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if

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John carpenter and rowdy roddy piper made a movie about Reagan omics

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I think maybe he doesn't understand all that too. Well, I thought it was interesting growing up cuz I'm

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What about ten years older than you give or take so when I grew up Reagan was?

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The man where I where I grew up. That's it. Yeah, I grew up in Indiana and it was just like Ronald Reagan

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What a great leader and all this stuff. It's funny and cool and he didn't wear a jacket

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He had a movie with a monkey or virtually an idiot cuz Gorbachev this big

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Jack on and Reagan didn't and all this cool stuff

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He would give these speeches and everything and then as you get older you get into like punk rock music

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You see some documentaries and you hear some people in these movies and you're just like was he not a good man

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You read a few things. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Oh, so Marty in 1981 on the heels of an economic downturn

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Unemployment was super high Rockford, Illinois had a rate unemployment rate of 25%

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Three states had unemployment rates over 14%

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At the depths of the 2008-2009 recession. The number was still just around 10% nationally to give some sort of context

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It was bad. It was really bad. People were out of work having a bad time

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Noticing that there were tons of unemployed people becoming homeless Reagan put forth a solution. That was not a solution

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He didn't want the government to do anything

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But instead suggested that quote every church and synagogue would take in 10 welfare families and this would solve the problem

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Because he was stupid and thought that the entire idea of homeless people existing was a temporary notion and would go away when the economy

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Got better. This is a stupid plan for one reason because churches and synagogues are not magical entities

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If each is required to take in 10 families, which could easily be 50 to 60 people

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That's going to cause a pretty big bump to their overhead in times when homelessness rose there would be churches getting bankrupted like crazy

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Just trying to provide the help that the government should be providing its citizens

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As a basic right. Reagan's solution is not a solution. It's a pathetic attempt to say we shouldn't help that person

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It's someone else's job. To make matters worse

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Reagan would slash the budget for the Department of Housing and Urban Development the department most likely to help house people without stable living conditions

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Reagan's entire platform seemed to boil down to

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Just insisting that this isn't my job

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Cutting funding for programs that are desperately needed in order to lower taxes on the rich because that was the primary motivation

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And then the final step blame the victims of his policies for the policies effects

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He famously popularized the idea of a welfare queen based on a lie a complete lie

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I recommend everyone go listen to the episode of the dollop. They say watch glow or sure go watch glow

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It's great the welfare queen. Is that a character? Yeah. Okay, uh the the welfare queen idea

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The on an episode of the dollop they did live in chicago that me and jordan were actually at it was a great time

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Uh, he uh, they lay out the history of the idea of the welfare queen. It's fucking out

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It's it's outrageous how much deceit was behind it was fucked up

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So that also he went on good morning america and said the people sleeping on grates in the street were doing it by choice

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Yeah, that sort of thing. He was completely how many I remember as a kid too and I still hear to this day

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I'm like that homeless guy gets in a mercedes and drives home. Mm-hmm. Yeah

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Yeah, oh that that even when I was a kid. I remember that sort of thing

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They're making eight figures out there puts on those pants that smell like shit, right?

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And then he puts them in a in an airtight bag and puts them in his trunk of his mercedes

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And then goes home and counts all your money if you worked at captain d's seafood all your clothes smell like fish

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Yeah, do you think you want that? He has it's the same thing. It's a uniform for him with the shit shit clothes

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Quote every park bench in america everywhere a homeless person sleeps should have ronald reagan's name

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On it says peter dryer an urban policy analyst and the director of the urban environmental policy department at occidental college in los angeles

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As some indication of how little reagan gave a shit about this stuff from article in the nation quote

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Early in his presidency at a white house reception reagan greeted the only black member of his cabinet housing and urban development secretary samuel

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Pierce saying quote, how are you? Mr. Mayor? I'm glad to meet you. How are things in your city?

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Holy shit, there's my african-american right there. There he is. I mean, we have the same thing now with ben carson as uh,

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You know, i'm sure trump doesn't recognize him. No, so also this is oh real there's a funny, uh,

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Wrestling story about ben carson. No, but it's very much how vincent vincent trump are the same man. Yeah, uh, they were having a

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meeting, uh with all the wb talent at one point and uh,

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Um, they were I forgot what they were talking about. There was going to be some new policy or changes were going to be going down

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Or something like that

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Uh, and this black guy michael tarver, uh, I know that name right he was in the original nexus

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And uh, he raised his hand to ask a question

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And uh, which people were like, whoa, this is bold. This new guy's just asking a question out of nowhere

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This is kind of crazy, but he raised his hand asked a question and vince mcmahon goes excellent question. Shelton

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Meaning he thought he was shelton benjamin a guy who was no longer with the company. Yep. Also the reason I thought I recognized that name

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Is because of comedian drew tarver

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Uh, that's why I thought tarver is not a common name. No, uh, also so this is from san francisco weekly

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Okay, quote a un declaration in 1966 the international covenant on economic social and cultural rights codified this

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The un member nations including the united states a permanent member of the united states

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Security council and the un's host nation signed an agreement that recognized the right of everyone to an adequate standard of living for himself and his family

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Including housing though the us signed the treaty the senate never ratified it making america one of only two un member states to fail to ratify

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Along with thailand the us has either failed to sign or failed to ratify at least six other international treaties

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In which housing was declared a human right and uh,

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At this point, I should come out very clearly and make my advocacy. Uh clear. I believe it is

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Yeah, I believe that housing should be provided by the government now

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We've done a cool fun thing if anybody's uh, been in chicago and sat on a bus stop bench or anything that little

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Oh, man, they've made them they lean forward

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Uh, they've got pegs everywhere. Yep

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There's a lot of places downtown where they have uh, kind of like spiky things where you can't see them

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Or the underpasses. Yeah, the overpasses rather. They've got the concrete boards down where you can't a lot of cities do that or anything

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It's crazy to think that's someone's job

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It's a lot. It's crazy that it's someone's job to argue for that. Yeah, you know like some politicians

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I'm just some i'm some city planner guy and i'm like dang it in here

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Do you know those uh park benches right too comfortable people are sleeping on them get to work?

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Uh, make them uncomfortable. We need razor blades make them uncomfortable, you know, it's crazy too

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It's like we went and did a show in austin

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And when we were down there, uh in the downtown area, uh, there's a lot of uh, homeless folk

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Yeah, um, and I saw what I would describe as one of the most dystopian pictures i've ever seen in my life

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Uh, we were leaving the show and walking down the street

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And there's a there's an area where there was you know, it was clearly a place where people got food and stuff like that

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So there was a lot of people hanging around

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Uh, and that wasn't that weird to me

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That was kind of like this is very sad and I feel bad about uh, the fact that this exists we should be doing better

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Uh, but that was sort of like i've seen stuff like that before maybe yeah

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We walked a little bit further and then there was a giant. I don't know maybe a chase building. It was some huge company

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There's a giant

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Uh modern ornate building like it was gorgeous and then if you just looked right in front of you on the planter

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And then if you just looked right in front of you on the planter, there was just someone passed out

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Uh, you know just almost naked. Yeah, just blah. Yeah, and I was just like the the juxtaposition of this giant

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new billion dollar building and uh someone

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Sleeping in their planter just made me so fucking depressed maybe so sad and with the knowledge that we can fix that

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Yeah, we can do better now

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Maybe we can't fix everybody's problems, but the idea that people are sleeping on the street is something

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We absolutely can't fix and this we just adjust our priorities slightly. This was a thing where

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reagan

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Uh, it was weird too. Like I remember going to dc back in the

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90s

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And you think like oh cool. I'm gonna go see the white house and then like two blocks away

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You're like, oh, this is a nightmare. I mean we talked about skid row on alissa lamb episode

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Yeah, yeah, there's just there's places like that in almost every city and a big city

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Oh, you see that and you wonder with reagan too where you hear about this you hear about his

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um

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lack of a response to hiv just being not lack of a response no response cruel response and stuff like that you wonder like

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How are you this cruel?

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Or how was this pitch to you that like nah, nah, there's these things called welfare queens

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They're just taking money from the government. They all here's another thing

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I mean, how are they doing it now? Yeah growing up growing up growing up in indiana. I heard a lot of

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Uh all these black people who live in the projects. They all have giant tvs. They all have cable

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Uh that got transferred into obama phones. Yeah. Yeah, they all have yeah phones. They all none of them work

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Uh, they all get five hundred dollars a week

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Uh, they don't you know what I mean? It's just like you hear all this and i'm just like, oh, okay

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I guess that's the deal and then you like watch a documentary and you're like, oh, oh, that's a nightmare to live in cabrini green

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You know what? I mean? Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah, but I think that that's the you know

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I don't I don't know. I haven't thought this out too much

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This thought might come out weirdly, but I think that that's the comfortable illusion that people have to have in order to not

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Scream we have to fix the problem. Yeah, you know because if everybody was really aware of how uh people were living

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Yeah, stuff like that. People like oh, no, this isn't okay. Yeah, uh, they and so like my undercover boss is such a great show

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dan sure, so the the people who want to like

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Cut taxes on corporations and the rich and people who want to well, there's still that strip medicare

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There's strip medicaid strip welfare programs

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Yeah

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They have to create the illusion that all these people are cheating in the same way because then you feel fine fucking them

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Right because you're not fucking them

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You're you're righting the wrongs in the same way that right now we have the two versions of like what's really going on with these

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These immigrants. Yeah, uh at the border, uh with mexico you have the one version which is like they're all illegal immigrants

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Which doesn't take into account the idea that a lot of them are people seeking, uh, refugee status

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Sure, um, which is not illegal in any way and even if they are coming, uh, illegally or whatever

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Uh, that is a not a not a crime. Really. That's why a lot of our families came here, right?

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there's that too and then the other version which is the even crazier version, which is much closer to alex jones is that like

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They are actually human traffickers

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Yeah, but so you have to create these illusions these false realities in order to justify the cruelty that's going on

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That's which is the cruelty

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in both cases

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Is a function of white supremacy sure and it's like are they coming here to?

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Suck on the welfare teat or are they here to take our jobs, which you know what I mean? There's all these

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There's all these contradictions of like they're coming here taking our jobs. They're coming here and not working

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It's like which which one is it? It's got to be one

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Yeah, or this whole thing of just I mean, it's like they're all just like you'll go on

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I I've I've kind of like I told you i've taken a little bit of a of a media diet and i'm not really

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I think that's a lot of stuff, but you know, you would watch those videos of like, hey, here's all these

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Republicans talking about supreme court judges like let's take a break

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Let's not you know, and it's like but now we gotta do it. We gotta do it right now

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It's like there's always that that horseshit

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well

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that's what that's what me and jordan talk about all the time is the like

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The idea of telling a republican or someone on the right that they're being hypocritical is pointless. Sure

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That's because the roger stone narrative is just like you've been saying like keep punching you're wrong. No, i'm not and you're wrong

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And here's why it's like no. No, we're talking about you being wrong. Never. Never show your ass

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Your ass is exposed fart on somebody. Yeah, my ass isn't exposed. That's that's your ass. You're crazy. Yeah

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You're you're you're you're lying about my ass being exposed asses don't exist. Yeah, so

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That's the whole thing and i've talked to you about this about like especially like with like dick cheney and stuff like that

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It's like how much money is enough to where you're like people are dying

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But this halliburton baby, we're making some money. It's like how much is enough money?

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and

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You want to be like the king?

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of or have all the money and then no one else does like if I was

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Yeah, one of these like elites in the united states. I would I would be like this country's falling apart

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Like wouldn't you want instead of me having four billion?

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Maybe I only have two but then

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Then a lot of the people around me are living well enough to where they're not like

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Let's go to that mansion and rip that fucking guy out of there. I think they know that that stage is

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Far off. Yeah

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Uh, but they don't watch the dark night and go. Oh, no, they are the dark night rises and oh, no

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They might come to our penthouses and pull us out of this out of the and throw us in the streets

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You're making the same mistake. Alex does i'm thinking fiction is reality. Oh, yeah, that's right

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Um, I I think too that like what we don't recognize and I think alex does a really clunky job of expressing this

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But I think he expresses it a little bit

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and that is that like, uh, we can't possibly understand the

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Motivations of people on higher levels than us, you know what I mean?

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Like for you and I jack nicholson fucking you don't know what it's like to have pressure making those decisions in a few good men

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You know what?

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I mean when he's like you can't handle the truth and all that sort of of being like i'm in a position where I have

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To make tough decisions. No, no, no. I don't even mean it like that

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Although I do think there is something to that. What I mean more is that like you and I

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Um in terms of money, we just want to get by. Yeah, we just we are the game the level of the game

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We're playing is like we want to get by now. Let's assume you get married and have kids

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I'm saying you because that's not going to happen for me. Hey, you never know that calm down

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You never know that but like assume you get married and have kids then you enter sort of a next level

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Which is like I need to have a house. Yes, and now you're planning for these kids futures exactly

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Your financial concern becomes like can I help them through college or whatever?

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Version it is in your head and then there's another level above that which is like business ownership probably

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And then there's a level above that which is dynasty building. Yeah, baby

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You know when you get into sick money

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You're at the point where you're like I want no one that ever comes from my loins to have to work

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Hey, I want rockefeller money. Hell yeah that sort of shit. I want an oil painting of me

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Right that'll last for generations right people will go

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Great great grandfather martin and some of that comes from money

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Some of it comes from great deeds or whatever great. I don't mean good. I mean big

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Yeah, so like I think that there's a decent chance that even with uh

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With dick cheney as much of a monster as he is. Yeah as much damage as he caused

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I think that there's a possibility that somewhere deep within his dark

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Robotic heart replaced heart. Yeah, I think that there's a possibility that he believed that by doing really really terrible things

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He could reach a positive outcome which might be like i'm just breaking some eggs to make an omelet, baby

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Maybe I don't want to I don't want to say that excuses, right?

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But that's like there's a chance that he thought that sure and then you come out the other side you forgive all of the innocence

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That i've killed in order to sure have this pox Romana. I do wonder like and I was I was watching a

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nazi documentary

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As I want to do sure uh, and I was I thought you would have watched them all by now

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No, i've there's still new ones that come out hitler's bodyguards crazy. Um, but there's these there every once in a while

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And uh, you kind of wonder you're just like like one guy that like he was the architect

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Himmler or something like that and they're just like this is one of the true architects of the

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You know of all of hitler's plans and stuff you wonder if like they're all just sitting on a table and like one guy's like

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I'm gonna throw this out there. This is gonna sound crazy

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uh, but what if

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That was do you want to hear a crazy story? Hmm a crazy wrestling story?

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Does this have to do with hitler's uh, no, but it's kind of one of those it's just that i'm gonna throw this out there

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So I had a friend who used to um

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so I had a friend who used to um

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uh

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write

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W2b creative was one of the writers there and they were all sitting around a table. Was it freddie prince jr

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No, okay. It was just uh, who is a dear close friend of mine. No freddie

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But they were all sitting on the table and doesn't man's like god damn it. I want some fucking idea somebody give me something

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and uh

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I won't say who the old wrestler who was like an agent to put people's business on the streets

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And he's like look it's freddie prince. I'm gonna throw this out there. No, he's a former wrestler

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I'm gonna throw this out there

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and

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I might sound crazy for this hell. I might even get fired for this almost put it out there

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What if mark henry in a match?

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Gets hurt gets hit in the head

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High school the hospital we find out later via x-rays

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Gorilla oh

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They're like what

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I think I think vince was like I appreciate your your uh input, but now let's move on now

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That's I imagine vince was like that's great. We can't do that. Yeah. Yeah, that's great

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I'm gonna say this this might go over great. It might get me fired, but i'm gonna say this

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And he uh threw that out there man to the world your delivery on that was strong everybody just went whoa

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Yeah, that's that would have probably been fine at some point though

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Oh, yeah, probably the 80s like he he impregnated that lady and they gave birth to a hand. Yeah in uh, 2000 or 98

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But I am getting back to what we were talking about. I am I am

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And I think this is way off track. Sure

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I think there is sort of this this thing of like the the real powerful the elites

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Are like listen

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Like I don't know there has to be like dad. I hear a lot of like ron reagan jr

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Mm-hmm, you know, he's he's I keep seeing this commercial for him about atheism

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He's like you sick of people talking about god. He has he's part of this like new atheist thing or whatever gross

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I don't know. He's pretty he's obviously liberal and things like that and he's been outspoken about stuff, but

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It's especially too. Like you gotta wonder if like you're growing up and you're just like hey, man

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Turns out I think my dad might not have been the coolest dude on the planet turns out my dad sucked

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Yeah, a lot of people have to go through that. Yeah, uh, and we're going through it in this next clip with rowdy

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Roddy. Oh god, please. I'm so sorry

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Uh, so no more no more side trick. I think this clip is where I will uh, this really lost faith in the hot rod

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Well, yeah, and you probably will as well. It's where I was like up till this next clip

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Uh, it was where I was like, maybe he doesn't know what show he's on. Okay, unfortunately this clip happens. Okay

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But you know one of my favorite lines is because I feel like this all the time trying to politically

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Awaken people that they're being lied to that there's an agenda

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It's not left or right. It's hey, there's mind control going on the signals broadcast 24 hours a day through all this media

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Just become aware of it and they'll say there's nothing going on and I want to say put on these glasses or start chewing concrete

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Without a doubt

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By the way, I'm a big booster of you, uh, I've watched some of your

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You're uh taking care of america and watching the hotel room while the buzzing was going on

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And I think you do a terrific job that hurts. Well, what was going on?

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I don't know probably he was going around to like doing doing doing uh,

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I blame I blame

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Concussions. Well that also, yeah, uh rough life. No, I blame

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uh

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people turning

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Roddy on to Alex. Oh, yeah, it's someone's fault. You gotta see Alex Jones. You don't know Alex Jones?

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But I think I mean you and I are even examples of people without like

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A close examination of Alex. We're like, this guy's wild. Oh, yeah, like we didn't think he was as big of a problem as we

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And I and I think Roddy probably

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Uh identifies or feels a bit of a kinship with him in the sense of like he's a shellman just like me

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You know and back in the 90s sure, uh, Roddy Piper did extensive battles with the NWO

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Absolutely. He and Ric Flair got together. I can't eat cowards over nobody. Yeah

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Who's that when he had tried to get a family together didn't you didn't uh, Piper try and uh, fight the NWO

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Yeah, he tried to start his own group. Yeah. Yeah, I tried and then I had to uh get uh, Flair, right?

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Yeah, wasn't that how that worked? I have very vague memories of this. There was a really bad nitro where he tried to get his own

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Group together. His own posse? Yeah, and it was a disaster. Got the no limit soldiers

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Yeah, there was a lot of faction warfare back in the day. I think it I think it should come back

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I think it I think it should come back, but I also think it's incredibly disappointing to hear I'm a big booster

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Because like like we said before like I was bummed out. It's an accident

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I was really bummed out when I heard that Joe Rogan being like Alex. I love you

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But he always you're a friend. He's been he's known Alex for like 20 years

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It's like they they went back. They would go what did Alex?

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Why did Alex uh turn on Rogan? Because Rogan he did he said two things. Oh Soros

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He didn't believe Soros. Well, that was one of them and then uh, uh,

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Joe also was like this is it's really stupid what Alex is saying about Anthony Bourdain's suicide like as Alex said

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Pull the lid on a pedophile ring. He was about to come out and say all this stuff and Rogan was like

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This is really fucking awful taste

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But the thing I think is so fucking cowardly is that Rogan is now being like I love this guy

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But you need to calm down. Yeah, it isn't calm down. It's like your rhetoric is terrible

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Yeah, your rhetoric is irresponsible and it's it's hurting lots of people

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But Rogan, but no what Rogan needs to do is he needs to come on his goddamn program and be like, I'm sorry

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I I love this guy. He's my friend. Yeah. I'm sorry that I had him on my show

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And and and Milo like stop like well, I think he's there's a bigger issue there

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I think he's a I think there's that thing of like

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I'll give anybody fucking Ted Nugent on the other day. I know it's like I'll give anybody a platform to talk and it's like

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Hey, we're gonna have a conversation

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Joe Rogan is having Ted Nugent on his goddamn show

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You should also have Courtney love on the fucking show so she can talk about how Ted Nugent made her blow him when she was

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12. There you go. Allegedly. There you go

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Yeah, I mean like you you can't you and you should have all of the clips of Ted Nugent saying the fucking n-word all over

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The place yeah telling Barack Obama to suck on his guns. Yeah on stage with actual guns on stage

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We never said anything like that

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This is crazy what they're saying about Trump all the fucking videos of Ted Nugent being like I saw Nancy Pelosi

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I told her to suck on my machine gun. Yeah, bam bam bam, but there now we're going into stranglehold

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There's this thing of of being it's like you can't do this. You can't you can't be like i'm a i'm an observer

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I'm on the side. You're not i'm just talking to interesting people. No, you are absolutely not you have a fucking responsibility

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Yeah, stick to Duncan Trussell if you want to get crazy

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You have your fucking or the Trussell, Eddie Bravo, Eddie Bravo, Joey Diaz

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Yeah, you can let Eddie Bravo go, you know, I heard I heard this guy say this and you go

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Ah, come on, Eddie, don't don't listen to that shit. Yes, you you you keep your crazy in a box

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You don't allow these horrible horrible people to be exposed and not like his audience doesn't know who Ted Nugent is

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Yeah, but when you have a two-hour conversation with a person it humanizes them and allows like you to be

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the like surrogate person there where it's like

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If I love Joe Rogan, and I don't know a whole lot about Ted Nugent and I hear them talking

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Amicably for two and a half three hours. It ain't that bad. I'm gonna come away from it like

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Here's a here's an example of it when I used to listen to Loveline all the time

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Yeah, first of all, I thought Adam Carolla was cool. It was a problem

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There was a time where he was the funniest man in America. Absolutely. So let's not let's not lie about that

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He changed but also there be baby girl. There'd be guests on there that I have no

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No reason to like but I like like John Mayer was a great chair

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And if for some reason I liked John Mayer sure because he was on Loveline

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It was cool made Andy Dick seem just like a lovable wacky guy exactly when he was but a monster exactly

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Yeah

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So yeah

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There are those like that is the effect you have when you are a charismatic popular figure who interviews people for long periods of time

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Yeah, like long instead of just like a short super edited interview. Yeah, and it's dangerous. It's really really dangerous to not

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Respect and understand your responsibility that you have. Yeah, and the real and the fact that Joe Rogan was just like I love Alex Jones

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He's got to calm down. I think he's not dealing with the idea that like now I am a part of this now

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Yeah, I didn't have to be I've introduced

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Millions of people to Alex Jones

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Maybe not millions, but yeah, maybe yeah, those people probably already knew who he was

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But he's doing that thing of like silly old Alex over there

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but also at the same time allowing Alex to like we went over that episode and like he allowed Alex to

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Sound like he knew what he was talking about in a way that he shouldn't have he should have pushed back on all this to

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Expose that Alex you you're lying to people. Yeah. Yeah, and because he loves him. Yeah, I want to do it and it's

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Oh, yeah, really really fucking dangerous now, unfortunately, right?

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Roddy Piper

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Also, like Alex. Yeah, that's a bummer now

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In the next clip we have here Roddy Roddy Piper says something that I think Alex misunderstand

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Okay, this is the kind of thing that needs to be exposed to America

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They need to know you know, they're trying to put us to sleep. I'm a born rebel. I

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Can't I can't help myself. I think Sean might be too rowdy rowdy Roddy Piper is a born rebel

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You got to be kidding

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So Alex is smiling like a cat that just ate the canary like he is over the moon when he says that I

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Think that what rowdy Roddy Piper meant is he's rebellious by nature

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What Alex thinks he meant is that he thinks that the South was right in the Civil War?

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Because that's what Alex thinks when he talks about being a rebel. Oh, well, that's the rebel flag

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Oh that sort of stuff. That is what Alex thinks is like oh shit

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Rowdy, I don't know is a Civil War revisionist. Oh, this is exciting. I don't know about that

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I don't think rowdy Roddy Piper is saying that I know Alex thinks okay. Okay. I think Piper is saying like I said, I'm a rebel

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Yeah, I'm rebellious. Okay, I buck against the system Alex hears. Yes. I'm a

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I'm a I believe I believe in the Confederacy that the South will rise again

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Meanwhile fucking Piper is from Canada. Okay, so I don't think he has skin in the game now

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But like that to me was like a moment where I'm like, oh no. Oh, no, Alex

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I think I think you should have asked a follow-up question there. I think Alex. I don't know

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I don't know if I'm if I you you're you're more on to Alex than I am

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So I don't know about that one, but I do think Alex is a guy. No, I know this 100, okay

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Okay for sure, but I think Alex is a guy who can fit whatever you say into his narrative

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Yeah, but his narrative in this case is that Piper believes that the South was right

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That's

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Because otherwise there would be no reason to be like can you believe it? He's a born rebel

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Yeah, because of course he is anybody who knows anything about Piper knows that he didn't walk the beaten path in life

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Yeah, yeah

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But he was he was an iconoclast in many ways the fact that he's surprised means that he thinks it means something other than that

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Okay, and I know

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100% okay in this case. All right means he celebrates old Dixie. Okay. I'm certain of all right

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All right, so that was a misunderstanding I think but this next one definitely isn't

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You know every time we want to go to war would send your boy to war

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My boys already been there and it and it becomes with the mind control trying to dumb down the society

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Of drugging society putting stuff. I mean it is a it's a major

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Major conspiracy for a new world order. It's no doubt about it in my excuse me in my humble opinion

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There's no doubt about it that the world is trying to evolve into something rowdy

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Rowdy rowdy Piper. I'm sorry interrupted. What do you think? It's what do you think you're trying to evolve it into?

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So a couple things really quick the the idea that Piper is saying that the world is trying to become something is important to hold

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On to that thought okay, because he comes back to it later

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But the most important thing here is Piper believes in the new world order. Yes new new new world order. Yes second

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that technique that Alex just displayed there is

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Trademark Alex Jones whenever his guest says what he needs them to say. Yeah, he cuts them off

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Okay, lest they say something that would be like what I mean is exactly sure he cuts them off and then reframes

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Exactly the same question they were about to answer in order to cut off their thought

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Yeah, and make it be like oh, let's start a new thought

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I he does this all the fucking time I said for sure that I agree with that for sure

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He's I've heard him do that all the time. We were like, that's not you. I've listened to you guys do it

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You're like wait, that's not what he said. There's no reason for him to have caught him off there

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He was obvious. Yeah, Piper was about to finish his thought. He wasn't going to make it's not like he has to be like

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I'm rowdy rowdy and you know, he didn't have anything to say he said to like cut him off exactly. Um, who are you Larry King?

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there's a there's a

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One of those like some YouTube channel had like wrestling conspiracy theories or whatever. I watch this and one was that

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Ted Turner created the NWO as a distraction from the real NWO. Sure. Also Roddy mentioned his son Colton

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There's a couple kids. Yeah

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a cabana one time my my Colton company partner Colton cabana or Colt which is what Piper calls his son

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Piper texted call one time like I love you, and I'm so proud of you

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Eggles like I wish he was saying that for real to me, but he just wrote him back like I didn't get the wrong cult

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There bud, but I hope you're doing fine. Oh

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Man anybody who's named

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Can't think of a name that's really close to mom

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Oh

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They're gonna see your your your other comedy cohort Don Friesen. Oh sure. I

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Know I've only gotten prank messages. Yeah

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But I do hope Don Friesen's doing well, I tell you what I was on a website putting in some information

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For a booking thing and they had his rate on there. It looks like he's doing pretty good. Oh, yeah, he's doing okay

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It was really close to having him on the podcast. He's this close. He's doing alright our friend Jeff Sheen

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Yeah worked with him a couple times. He like opened for him on some dates. Yeah, and I was like fucking tell him that

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We got a talk and he was like I'll do it yeah, and I think I think Don Friesen might have emailed me

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No, he sent me a Facebook message

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I have communicated with Don Friesen. I forgot about that, but you are you are 100% right with the one I remember too is

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Um, man, what like family member he had on the podcast one time Alex. Yeah

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Buckley his cousin. No, no. No, it was a

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Who's one of the big families that he always rallies against? Oh the the one with the Rothchild?

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Yeah, and he would be like, well, you know, yeah, we did that. Yeah. Yeah

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There you go. It's a malicious interview tech. Sure. Sure. I mean, it's not what you need and you move on exactly

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Hope for hope whenever you're cutting them off. You have a clean enough rowdy Roddy Piper right battles the NWO

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So most people don't catch on to it because if I were if Alex was interviewing me and he did that I would get

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Furious. Well, you know

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At WrestleMania 5 Morton Downey jr. Kept interrupting Roddy Roddy Piper

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Mm-hmm and Roddy had enough of it didn't like that and he said don't blow no smoke in my face

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and then he got a fire extinguisher and

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Shh

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Piper does not do that to Alex Jones. He instead ends up complimenting them. Oh, no, there's

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Again, I respect you and what you're doing and Sean

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And your opinions are much none of it. We want to know yours. Don't be humble, sir

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Okay, no, but you're much more educated on this than I am and I don't want this is too serious. I don't want to

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This is just my humble opinion. Sure. The world has to go someplace

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so he keeps he

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Roddy Piper's sort of theme seems to be that like the world it has to become something. Yeah, which I completely agree

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Yeah, I completely agree with and he's saying that there is like sort of nefarious

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Forces behind the scenes and I would agree with that too

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But I would reframe it sort of in terms of like abuse of capitalism

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capitalism like deregulation of business like those sorts of things are the

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Crushing you sound like something's boiling. Yeah. Yeah, there's something boiling the negative forces

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I think we probably could have an argument about like what they are

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Yeah, and but we could agree on the concept that like yes, nothing is static. The world is constantly changing

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and so here we get into

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Sort of a picture of what he and Alex believe

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Um, I think that they want one

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governmental force

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to to govern govern the world

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It's just that everybody's got their own agenda. You can't get that done unless Gandhi's around you can't you

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We not sure what that means. Yeah, I don't I'm not entirely sure I don't one

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I don't think Gandhi would have been able to create a government

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But that I mean Gandhi was around that didn't happen, yeah

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We can't get everybody on the same page

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Another idea is if we all spoke the same language that's probably kind of cool because of the communication is gone

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And then you can't tell when they say obey, you know, we were mad at Russia for how long but if I've been there

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And they're pretty nice people. They don't want to go with the rowdy rowdy piper loves

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Russia didn't want to start a nuclear war

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Pretty good people around the world and to

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Rowdy rowdy Piper's point. I agree. Yeah, the people now are fine. The people are fine. They're governments

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Papa-papa who's in charge over there? I would assume that he's talking about going to Russia since

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1999 maybe sure might have gone before although I think that would be anachronistic for his career in life. I

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I would I would say that since then Putin has been in power and he's a bad dude

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I bet Putin watched some Hogan and Piper back in the day. He had to have loves a strong man. Oh, yes. I loved it. Ooh

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You think I would here's an interesting question

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Do you think that people in foreign countries like do you think people in Bulgaria really love rusev?

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Like do you think that the Russians back then actually liked?

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Nikola Kozlov

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Nick who'd what named Nikita Kozlov? I'm sorry Nikita Kolov Kolov, whatever. I don't fucking remember that guy

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Look, I don't like wrestling as much as you do. I know a bit of stuff, but I don't know everything

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I bet they didn't I know the Von Erich's were very popular in Israel. Wait, but aren't they from, Texas?

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Yeah, I have no idea why they were so popular in Israel. See we're not talking about that, right?

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I'm talking about the people do they like the fake version? I even

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Say these ethnically Bulgarian. I'm not entirely sure what his story is. Yeah, he's the Bulgarian brute, right?

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But do they like the fake version like do people in Mexico like?

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Alberto del Rio when he was in WWE from Mexico, I understand that like I see what you're saying if they like the floor

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If they hired me and they made me a Russian, right would Russians be like, yeah, dude

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Yeah, I think so because I think it's that thing about like being like finally see me. I see me on that TV. I

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I even though it wasn't me or but what is your like the character is bad?

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It doesn't matter so like Irish people love fit Finley sure

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He's a legend in Ireland

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Absolutely. Yeah, I meant some of them probably absolutely

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You don't think William Regal is as well loved in England see that's the next one

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I was thinking of but like there's a there's a thin line between like I want to know

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There's a line between character. I would want to know if Axel rotten who used to do a British

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character

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Accent everything that's more what I'm talking if people over there were like, yeah, we liked what you were doing over there

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Do do do countries hang their hat on someone who is yeah

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Maybe an offensive portrayal of them just to see representation. Maybe I don't know maybe hmm

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anyway, I don't know I it's it's interesting because

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Russia almost never let's let's ask somebody in the Middle East where they thought of Italian Muhammad Hassan. He's Italian

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Yeah, I don't think he was actually Middle Eastern at all. Mark Capani. That was his name. I was like anyone

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I don't think anyone like that. Yeah, that's funny. He just being like, but you know, oh

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like did did people

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like when

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What was the guy who played the Indian guy and in

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That 80s movie about the robot Johnny five. Oh

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Oh, yeah, I know who you're talking about batteries not included. What's that fucking movie people hate this? Yeah short-circuit

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No, I was trying Fisher Fisher Stevens. Yeah, I was coming up with the character or the actor

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You're coming up with the movie and you came up with both

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Congratulations, so it's like do people go at least we got an Indian guy fake or not on on the screen

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No, do you think that?

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black people enjoyed that

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That soul my face. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, I would imagine that we're getting to is no I bet they don't yeah

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But so did do you think white women appreciated white chicks?

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Do you think babies enjoyed a little man I watched a very serious

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Film critique of white chicks the other day on YouTube and this guy was like at no point. He's a British guy

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He's like at no point. Do they look anything like the white women?

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They were portraying do you but that had to be in the guy doing a bit? No, he was very serious

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Awesome. I don't know is so serious. I don't know if I trust that he's like this is garbage

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He's like at least try to make them he goes at least the white women that they're supposed to look like

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Make the white women through makeup look more like these guys look so, you know, that's an interesting

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That's an interesting idea

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Yeah for them to have done as yeah

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But I don't believe that a serious music critic or a movie critic would do that kind of a review without

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Most of it being an existential crisis about like why am I doing this? Maybe why am I reviewing this movie?

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I don't know his name, but he's this British. He looks like me. He has a British. He's a British guy

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He's a lava lamp. He's great at movie reviews

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You know, it's like you need to spend less time on your George something. I'm so into YouTube

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I'm gonna YouTube subscribe to YouTube red. No, you're not that deep. Oh, no. All right. All right, but I'm in man

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Every night I go I go to bed to YouTube. You're savable at this point, but toy galaxy is my favorite

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I accidentally watched I knew the names Rhett and Link. Yeah, I accidentally watched one of their shows

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How are they? I mean, I guess it's just they put it out there. How are they this popular?

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I have nope, there's certain people. Hey, you know what? You just nailed my review. There are certain people and I am

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It's not a jealous thing. No, I'm not I wish them all the best in the world

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Oh, but there's certain people who I'm just like, how are you? How like what is happening?

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I think John Mulaney is a great comic sure

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How is he selling out the Chicago theater like five nights in a row?

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I don't understand that one. I understand much more than Rhett and Link like I don't understand

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I feel I find there are some people on there there. Oh, look, I'll be on

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Somebody's on Twitter. I'll go to the news now. See what's what's trending or whatever and they'll be like, you know, like youtuber

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You know Tabitha Smith

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I had to shut down a convention that she was doing because

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50,000 people showed up and they only thought 10 we're gonna show up. Yeah, who are you? Well, that's the children

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Yeah, I don't know. I want to complain more about Rhett and Link. All right, I was why I get it that Mulaney's clean

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Yeah, he wears a suit. It's very pretty very funny and he's very funny. I just don't know

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I'm not saying he's not funny. Yeah, I'm just saying how is how is it?

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Like it's more your thought is like the Chicago theater is huge. Yeah, that's more back to Rhett and Rhett and Link

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I'd never seen any of their videos. I watched a couple of them. I found their personalities to be

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Distasteful like not not like I hated them

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Okay

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But I was just like I don't understand why anybody would watch these boring watch one where they like drank a bunch of different types

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Of like sodas or something. Listen, I

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Get that format. Sure. I get it. You do I novelty beverage Dan novelty beverage enthusiast

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Dan Friesen sure spice report Dan, but I also don't get how it has eight million

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Viewers that part. I mean even make it

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One million. I don't understand sure because their personalities are not anything other than bland

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Tableaus whereupon you can paint whatever you'd like to be there

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Yeah, like you can just imagine whatever character is there you want. All that stuff is fine

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I get I get that what I don't understand is

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they have a fucking laugh track or

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The people who are making that show the people behind the scenes are

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Literally standing around while they're recording it and there's a gas leak in that fucking studio

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I was it like a talk soup thing where people are laughing while they're doing. Yeah, it's so uncomfortable. I was watching one

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I'm like

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What the fuck are these laughs? Oh, no, cuz people are saying like they're saying things that aren't really that funny and they'll be like

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Hahahaha, it's a no I'm convinced it's a laugh track. I love it makes me so uncomfortable

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Yeah, it's even like I haven't watched sitcom sitcoms in a long time and I love like, you know old shows

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Yeah, you know there there are a bunch of shows that I love you go back and watch them. They're like, oh, yeah

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This feels weird. Why is everyone laughing? Yeah, it's very it's very strange and Rhett and Link suck

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I might hurt my possibilities of career advancement once man. Okay, who cares? We're not on YouTube. Are they?

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I don't know man very weird

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so in the last clip before we got off I wish toy galaxy all the best and he deserves all the all the

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Followers in the world shirt look fantastic. I'm not saying there aren't good things on YouTube

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I'm just saying that the ones that are super popular repart his three-part history of GI Joe review is fantastic. Love it

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I

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Will not be watching that but

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That it's good. So in the last clip they Piper was complaining about the what there's gonna be a one-world government

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Yeah, you seem to be language one government currency event

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They didn't even mention the currency part, but he's saying this in pretty like it's a negative way

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Which is runs counter to this next clip

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What do I believe is trying to happen real quick?

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That is why I told you to hold on to like the idea of like the world is going to change into something

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Okay, and he's presenting that is a bad thing. No now may be a good thing

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No, but the way the way he's presenting it here is this is what is what's trying to happen

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Oh the positive version of it just what is naturally the world is trying to change into Kim

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What do I believe is trying to happen? I believe that a lot of people with their own agendas are trying to come around and make

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one government

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to govern the entire world and there's some things they're gonna have to do we all got to speak the same language and we all

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Got to be sincere about what's going on and not so greedy

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Absolutely, because you can have the Star Trek idea of a one-world government. Everybody's nice

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The problem is the people running the global government are not nice people and they want control

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What?

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Alex is now Alex is saying I agree, but here's why that can't happen. Alex is saying like hey, it's cool

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If there is a one-world government in one version, that's like what I feel like Alex is like, yeah

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I totally think that would be cool. But you know, then the people in charge might not be cool

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But no matter who was trying to make that sort of centralized power structure. He would be like they're bad. They're evil

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Yeah, because that's a good way to make money

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So the idea that he's open to the idea of one-world government just not this one-world government. Yeah is like

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What that's so different than what he normally says yeah, that's apps that's that's ludicrous

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Absolute power corrupts absolutely and then between those last two clips. We have Piper saying, you know one-world government structure

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Yeah

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Universal language as a sort of negatively

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contextualized thing in the first clip he did and then in the second clip he's saying that what we what needs to happen with the

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Way the world is trying to grow

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You need to have a one-world power structure the Planet of the Apes 3 ending right but alas

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Maybe a one-world government is the way to go. So what are these people even saying? We just got to be chill, baby

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What are they talking about? These are we need to be sincere about everything here less greedy

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Here's I agree with those things. You're hearing a guy who's probably at 8 million concussions

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Who probably is just like so out of it. No, you're right. You're right, and I'm not judging him too hard

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Yeah, but I am judging Alex pretty hard

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Yeah for having a celebrity on his show and then being like oh, there's a good version of the one-world order

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Yeah, what? Well, I mean if it's the good one sure but weird we know that ain't hey, what's the what's the good one Alex?

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Where it's white. I'm in charge. It's white. Well, I'm a colonel

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um, so I mean that that's just like there's a lot of there's a lot of examples over the years that I've been able to

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Find of him just like completely invalidating his own principles. Do you think I find delightful? Do you think when?

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This is so funny that all these guys keep getting fired or resigning or whatever who was the Breitbart guy that was working for Trump Oh

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Bannon yeah, you think when Bannon got fired

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If it would have been a fun prank of like somebody who sounds just like Trump to call Alex and be like look Bannon's out

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I need you to take that job over if Alex Oh thought in his heart. This is legit

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This there's no way he would have done a special report immediately. Like there's no way

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Yeah, if you could get Anthony a tamanek to call in

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Do that that would be amazing. I mean it would be so

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I'm gonna have to give me a little time to shut things down here, but I can be there. Mr

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President listen Owen Troyer is ready to take over. He's doing great. He's a good kid

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He's dumb as the day is long, but he's a good kid. David Knight will keep him in order

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Yeah, I think you could get him on Rogan's podcast everyone all I think I think if you could like a dummy the

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Sending number, you know, like make it look like it's coming from

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DC Washington DC you don't have that watch it could be Washington State. Yeah, Washington, Seattle

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Alright, you get a decent sound alike. Yeah

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Um, you'd need someone to do like a Steve Pachannik impression though, cuz you need some backup

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Yeah before I put you on with the president. I'm just gonna give you a little heads up

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I think I don't think Alex knows what Jared Kushner or Steve Miller sound like so you could have someone doing an impression of either

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Of them it could sound like you were right. It wouldn't really matter. Hey, it's Steve Pachannik. No, no, no

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You couldn't do you can't do cuz Alex and Steve are frozen. Hey, Alex is me Jared Kushner

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I'm gonna put you on with my father-in-law in a minute

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Um, I don't want to spoil anything, but I think Bannon's job is yours for the taking

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Hopefully that's something you might want to do and I'm gonna pitch over to

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It turns out my my father-in-law really likes dad having chief strategists that are media propaganda

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That's the way to do it. Dad has always been impressed with you. Dad's always been a fan of yours. No, daddy

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Daddy has always been a fan of yours. Daddy's always thought you were one of the

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Smartest guys out there and Alex is like, oh my god, this is happening. He loves how you're trying to rehabilitate the

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Career of Milo Yiannopoulos. Yes loves that you love white people so much

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Yeah, I mean that would be really fun to see just what would happen because I mean Infowars is so gullible

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We've fallen for but are so many things willing to shave though. Oh

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So we're doing this now

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Back then it would have been funnier. I would be funnier

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Even if you would have been like are you willing to grow a beard? Well, yeah

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I've been I've been debating grown a beard for a while and honestly that red one of those guys on written link have a nice

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Beard and I'm into it. I only know that's Rhett because I

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Singularly hated link. I think he has zero personality and I want to push him in a locker

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Very few people trigger like my I love how bad you are about these two ding-dongs. I'm not really but I just

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I'm glad I know who they are and and I've also wondered how they're I think I like did research

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I like was like how why I think I googled like why are they so popular or whatever and they just like it's one of

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Those like because we were in on the ground floor and did it every day

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I guess I mean there's stuff like hot ones that I think is really great

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Yeah, they get like 2 million views on a lot of their videos. Like I understand why people watch this

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Yeah, and there's other things too that like have a ton of views also are not for me that I don't enjoy but I get

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It yeah people like Rhett and Link. I'm just like there's also lots of boring people out there

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Holy shit, like boring shit. Holy shit. He had sometimes things are a little bit too out there for you

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Maybe you don't want to hear about lizard people. I'm not for everybody but the people I am for enjoy

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Absolutely. So in this next clip

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man

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So at this point Piper has just been stupid in the sense that like he respects Alex

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yeah, which is I will say this about Piper and I remember one time I was so excited because

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Either he was gonna have Vince Russo on his podcast or Vince Russo was gonna have him on and Piper for a long time

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I've been saying

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You're a cancer in the wrestling business, right?

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Because of you Owen Hart died all this stuff like just heavy-duty shit and Piper goes, you know what I thought about it

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You're a daddy. You're trying to provide for your she could call him a daddy

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You're just trying to provide for your children and I got no beef with you gonna squash it

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I was like, no, that's it. It was this baby built it up and everything and then I was like, you're a daddy

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It's like at the same time. It's kind of adult. Yeah

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Not what I'm looking for. No out of my wrestling podcast. Yeah, absolutely by a to hucksters

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So at this point, the only thing that's really stupid is that he respects Alex. Sure

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Unfortunately in this next clip he's going to say something that is much stupider

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It all it all starts

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With the kids and as you get older and a little wiser, you're harder to fool

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But you put up another pop idol for the kids put up put up another

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Piece of music that maybe isn't timber like it was nothing but

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Vulgarity for the kids, you know bang it into them

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You know, I can remember I think you know the Brunswick affair probably Alan. Oh, yes

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Yeah, and for those who don't know about the brothers were prepared very quickly about I think early 60s

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they had a TV called the Brunswick and

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The people that bought it dad would go to work. Mom would be there and dad would come back home and

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all of a sudden she bought 20 pounds of dog food, but they don't have a dog and

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They found out that there was a little button and a TV called the Brunswick and when the commercials came on

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They did something that shot out these waves and made you buy that's in the early 60s

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Can you imagine how sophisticated they are now?

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Holy shit. Oh, man. What do you think about that? I think I

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think the hot rod is a

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Bit of a conspiracy theorist. Do you know what the Brunswick affair is? I do not there's a television show. That was

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It was like the Twilight Zone. Okay, this this episode the Brunswick affair

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I'm into it is a mockumentary type style

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TV program that came out that talked about TV sets that were put out in the 60s. Okay, that is not true

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So he's talking about this mockumentary as if it were real. Yep

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It's like it's like a like a Twilight Zone episode being real or a black mirror now. It's based on reality

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Oh sure. I mean it's interesting ideas certainly and it's and it's obviously mirroring something that I mean there have been reports of

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Subliminal messages and stuff sure the media advertising is rife with in ethical practices

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Yeah, but was specifically what he's talking about is something that is absolutely fake

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Okay

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And it's nonsense because the dates don't match up like in order to avoid getting sued

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They changed the name from the like the Brunswick radio and TV company to just the Brunswick company

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Yeah, I think they should have gotten sued anyway, but somehow avoided it. Yeah, maybe creative license

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I don't know, but that's actually a really famous example of something that is absolutely fake

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Yeah, and Roddy Roddy Piper is like, can you imagine what they can do now if they did that then?

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They didn't have a Brunswick button. What the fuck are you talking about?

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hmm

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So what was he saying about pop stars and stuff like he's saying that that's how they distract the kids

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Okay, leave these new pop stars come out and say dirty things which I'm like a dude. What did you do for a living?

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Professional wrestling exactly. There's a there's an element of it where it's like but I think I think Roddy is a guy who probably saw

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some

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pop star Illuminati videos

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You know what? I mean? I think this is probably I think he's a guy who people with the one eye cover

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Yeah devil horns that it's funny to where maybe maybe he goes to vigilant citizen

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Yeah, guys who were so wild back in the day are now like, you know

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They've got these pop stars out there telling kids. It's alright to have premarital sex. Yeah. Oh, yeah, like the thing you did

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Forever. Yeah. Yeah with minors. Yeah, maybe not rowdy Roddy Piper, but never never the hot rod

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Oh boy, I would always check the 80s. It's a mess

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so in this next clip Alex and Roddy talk about like they've gotten into like a bit of a conversation where they're like

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You know, but nothing's really been said yet

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What do you mean with with with this interview? Well, yes, they're both kind of not on the same page

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No, I've cut out almost all of like Alex just being like, oh my god. They live is so amazing

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Yeah, like fanboy about it, right?

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And then like there are some things that have been said like, okay

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We didn't know but I think like we didn't know she was a fucking info warrior

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I didn't know one thing that was said did not know that that's crazy. What did cuz she's a Roddy Piper's a big influence on

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Ronda Rousey, what did she say? That was a little off

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Well there she got some heat because she didn't want to fight that trans a fighter. I

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Believe work. Yeah, and and she said that she wasn't I but I don't remember the exact quotes and I don't want to get this

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Wrong from my understanding there was some like a denial of her identity. Okay, okay

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The other thing is she's like an anti-vaxxer and maybe a sandy hook truth. So

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But besides that she's a fantastic professional wrestler and she's really doing great. I'm not sure she walked some of that back though

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I think that some of the sandy hook stuff. She's walked back

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She's she seems like she's very dumb like unfortunately because I think Enzo and big cast both big trumpers have been shown the door

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Well for other reasons the reasons but they've been shown the door. I

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Mean I mean with big cast it was the nipples that was the issue with him as I understand

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It was funny because I was looking at our previous text and I was like why don't this picture big cast with these giant fake

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titties I

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love that

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For those of you out there who don't have access to our text chain

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I texted Marty on his birthday to tell him that for his birthday. I got big cast fired

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Yeah

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And I sent him a photo of big cast with this giant nipples guy on Twitter would always do big cast with these

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gigantic nipples and

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Plump breasts very gross, which is why I didn't respond. But anyway, I don't know man. It's it's very weird

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I don't think necessarily I don't know all of Rousey's issues. This is kind of like the new for me

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this is kind of like when you

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Hear like an actor or a musician you like as a Scientologist. You're kind of like

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Yeah, I had that with Jason Lee when I was like 19 or so out baby he's out of the church

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Yeah, that's good. He lives in Texas now. Oh, that's cool. Slaves on a farm. They change his kid's name. That's his thing

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I don't know was his kid's name pilot inspector. Oh, that's right. Hey, you know what?

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I get science the Scientology Channel we get DirecTV. There's a channel

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Yeah, we get DirecTV with you would think that they wouldn't want to allow that on the DirecTV. They're in Wow

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They probably pay him big money for it. Yeah

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It's in with all the like in DirecTV has a tremendous amount of infomercials. It's crazy. Although like brokers

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Oh my god, it's like get a slim waist in 30 days

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It's to a certain extent probably because they how they're how they work. They almost have infinite channels

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Yeah, but they could broadcast on and so why not fill it up with tons and we get it for free

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Yeah, cuz we find up for an internet or something. I don't know but it's not gonna be free later

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No, but we get to six months from now. You're gonna get fleeced with a huge bill

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Well, it's the only way I can watch live PD

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I watch live PD so much. What does that mean?

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There's a show on Amy called live PD police department 24. They're they're live on the scene. It's cops but live. No

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Yeah, no, it's fucking crazy. I gotta come over. You've never heard of live PD. No. Oh my god

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That's like that is Dan. No

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Marty that's the evolution of weirdos sitting around with police standards. It is. I think you know what I

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I knew a bunch of those guys when I was oh, yeah what my first house that I lived in my man had it

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I had it not I didn't have one but I remember my friend did a police scanner

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I remember listening to be like this is amazing my neighbor in my first house. Yeah, Dean and Ed

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Yeah, these two old guys one of them was a Vietnam vet and the other had stolen Valor all day long

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Which I also watching on YouTube

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so I would go over to their house and

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Dean

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Lost his arm. There's one arm left it in Nam. See he made me think

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Really long time turns out he left it at the factory

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Well, see he would always talk about how bad it was in NOM and I believe it absolutely was

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Yeah

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But he never told me how he lost his arm until like six months and does hanging out

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Okay, and it turns out it was after he got back stateside. He had a DUI

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He crashed his car and lost his arm the whole time. I thought he had lost it in NOM, but who cares?

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He's so you got a purple heart. That's that one guy would say to him you got a purple heart

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Then you lost a limb. But yeah, the other guy the stolen valor guy. Yeah, he couldn't talk barely Ed was a disaster

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okay, so I would go over to their house and

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Like it was a thing where at the time I was selling weed. Yeah my early days in college

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Hell yeah

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and so I had tons of weed and

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Just like a lot of the time my friends were in school or at jobs and I didn't have anyone to hang out with and Dean

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And Ed were over there hanging out and Dean would be like, hey you want to yeah

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If you bring over some weed, yeah. All right, Dean. Yeah, I got you. So I'd bring over weed. He roll up some blunts

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Yeah, and we would sit around and smoke weed and tell me about NOM

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And also he always would be intently listening to the police scanner and I fucking enjoyed the shit out of it

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Although it was Columbia, Missouri where there were no crimes happen now. So it was a boring ass police scan

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I think if they're in Missouri, they might be in Missouri. They're all over the place but watching it live

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Oh, yeah, they have eight police departments throughout the country and they check in look. Let's go back to that

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Man who was pulled over for it's all black people to sometimes you feel bad. Oh, although

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Well, but that's we were watching the other night based on the police departments are told we were watching the other night

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And we're like they clearly are like we got to get some white people on here. It was crazy white people night

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It was so fun

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Is it 24 hours? No, so what happened that sucks, but if it was here's to do I'm good

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If it was I would get DirecTV. Here's what you know, first of all

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Uh, we get we need to find you somebody who has a sling membership

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Sling TV. Oh

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Dude, I actually auditioned for a voiceover

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I was like, why do I know that name? Oh, it's cuz I did a bunch of take

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Here's what you need to do sling with direct with DirecTV. I put live PD on the DVR, right?

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There's a live PD rewind and a live PD another one

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I any is going so in on this I honestly feel like this live PD has the potential to overcome baggage as

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Like the best thing on tell Sarah and I watch it so much. So Friday and Saturday night, you know, what needs to happen

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I need to come over and watch it with you for sure. I would love you to come over watch

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I haven't seen your place yet. So now this is just turning us to hang

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It's so good

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Apparently

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People don't have their IDs on them. They just don't have IDs. Oh, of course, and they're always like well now

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I'm gonna search you don't have your ID on you. Well, that becomes probable cause or they're like, well, who are you?

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Let me get your name and a lot of times it's this one like pretend you're the cop and I'll be like the criminal guy

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You're like guys here ID. I don't have it. Where is it at your house? Yeah, I think so. Okay. What's your name?

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It took you a while Marty

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Mmm, hold on that took you a little bit too long. I'd be little suspicious. Hey, it's Marty. What's your last name?

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Why do you last name I don't understand why you need my last name is Marty your Christian name or the guy goes

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When's your birthday? This like got this bliss guy goes. He's what's your birthday? And he's like

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9755 and he's like

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how old would that make you and the guys like

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And they always do the hey man you be honest with me goes a long way you got anything in the car and they're like

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No, and there's I mean something's in the car grenade launcher guns in the car. See it's interesting because it's live

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Yeah, it's not live. Right? Well, I mean some it's pre-recorded but a lot of it's live

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Live ish it's live to tape or whatever, but it's not like the show is happening live. It's live

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It can't be and it's live. It would have to be so much better than it would have to be so much better

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It's live. It would have to be so boring for no. No, they know how to jump around and stuff and some of it is boring

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That's why you watch the rewind. That's when you really packs it in. There was this guy who was a

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Evading the cops in a pickup truck. This guy was such a good driver

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It was like Dukes of Hazzard like this fucking guy if the cops miked up and they're like any get him dry

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They had a got they had a canine cop and the dog was just like the dog want all these dogs, too

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These dogs are the real stars of the show. Of course this dog wanted to bite this guy so bad

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It's like the version of the Puppy Bowl. Yep, and the guy passengers got his hands out the window the whole time

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Like I know I'm not done with this. I'm not done with this. I just got in the wrong car

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I was told Sarah I go I told Sarah I go forever if we're ever in the situation

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Just say that I forced you to just put your hands out the car window. I'll add another charge

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I'll take all the heat. Yeah, no kidnapping

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And this guy was just like dude any because the cops do that one bump move where they get you in the back bumper

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And you flip around a j-turn couldn't do it

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No bump this guy and then if you see tracks out knew that was coming

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He was evading they threw the tracks out and he just fucking turned on the wrong

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Good amazing. Oh good. Damn it. I really

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If you guys are part of live PD nation, give me a hell. Yeah

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They call the fans live PD nation

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And you'll I notice a lot of people I've that on Twitter that I follow and follow me

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Everyone's tweeting about it. See it's it think this is like this

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Interesting thing that I'm experiencing now as like someone who's just like completely out of it

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Yeah, like there are shows like that. They're like that is exactly what I want to watch. Yeah, I had no idea

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I just didn't told us that's wait for you, baby

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There are times where I feel bad because it's all mostly poor and mostly minorities

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But I mean at the same thing as cops ever way now, you know, you know, yeah

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I will say that there's sort of a I

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Think there's kind of a gross

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voyeurism yeah

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Being exploited by us and by enjoying those show and a protected in the same way

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But I think it's the same way that almost all of those shows are like my strange addiction or hoarders

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Yeah, any of those shows you watch and it's like this train wreck of we

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Sarah and I watched hoarders for a little bit and we're like

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This is kind of wild to watch and then it just got sad and we can't watch it anymore

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Then the other day I go my house is watched for a second. See if we see anything on there

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That's interesting and then they just like lifted up a couch and pulled out a dead cat that was like

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Oh, no, that was I guess as hard as a book and they're like, hey, we got a dead cat

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We're like turning in this

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But the difference with those is like the horror is like this this like how do people live sure in this?

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Sure sort of world and then with the cop stuff. It's the horror is the

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Presumably the protagonists of the show. Yeah, like the cops are the characters of the show

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Yeah, and they're the bad ones so you're watching it and you're like, oh my god

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Like you're seeing all these people get arrested. Well, I've been really fucked up situations

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And often live PD is usually pretty good PR for cops

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It shines them in a pretty positive light

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Well with editing but every once in a while the crew every once in a while, there's that you're like, well what this one?

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I'm still baffled, but there's so many people who are like pull this guy over

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They pull this guy over there and they're in like a border town

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So like from from like Indiana to Illinois or something like that. Oh not like

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No, so although they have that on there too. When you say border down poor town. I think of like Juarez

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so

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Cuz I grew up I grew up in Indiana and in Indiana

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You only had to have a back license plate, Illinois. You got him front and back. Oh, yeah, they pull this guy over

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hypothetically

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In in Illinois and he had an Indiana plate and he's like, why'd you pull me over because you don't have a front plate

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And he's like I live in Indiana. I don't have to have a front plate and he goes in Illinois

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You need a front plate and he searched them and found a bunch of drugs

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And I was like, wow, that didn't seem fair, but I just saw in the news in in Minnesota

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They busted these guys with like hundreds of pounds of weed, but the judge threw it out because they pulled him over under

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Illegal, I bet he didn't get the pot back. No, that's what's bullshit about it. You should still have that pot

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Maybe while they look listen, we're gonna give back to you. We're gonna turn around. Yeah, and you got ten minutes to get out of here

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I think that's exactly what they should do. We could we pulled you over under false pretenses

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But I know we have to create exactly the scenario you were in before we stopped you. I love a good fun

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Bust on life PD like when they bust a guy with a prostitute and the guys like that's my wife and they separate them

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How's that good and they go cuz it's like harmless. You know, it's not no one's getting harmed

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Everyone's getting harmed and he goes, what's her name? He goes, I don't know because that's your wife

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I thought you said I don't know. I don't know shotgun wedding. I don't know. All right, maybe I was wrong

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I feel like there's a lot of harm there. You're you're jamming. No, we're not no harm, but you know what I mean?

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Yeah, I know I is good clean fun. Good clean fun. Everyone's having fun

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Yeah, live Pete. I'm so happy you're gonna get on the live PD. I'm gonna I'm we're gonna set a date

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I'm coming over to watch cuz I haven't seen Sarah in a while. Here's what you do

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Come over on a Saturday that way Friday's recorded. Okay, we'll let Saturday get recorded. We watch Friday lot

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We'll watch Friday's episode. What are you doing next week? I don't know. It's tough

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That's why I love it because I always had the stuff recorded cancel your gigs. All right coming over on what let's do it

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All right, I'll deputize you

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I'll make you a member of live TD nation. All right, sounds good. And then our next episode will just be a thorough review

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Oh, you're in I think you would be like, how could you watch this? It's on it's terrible

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I mean, I hate I hate the police and all that

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Yeah

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like I think systematically they're a problem but like

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The idea of watching it live does trigger that like I said the same thing about like listening to the police scanners when you're younger

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That sort of thing is very riveting. Yeah, but the only thing that I'm against is the

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sort of the excitement and fetishizing

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The cops doing things. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like I

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I think I think entertainment value is fine

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Yeah in that but like the idea of like get up know that sort of thing is that that impulse cuz I think some people have

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That yeah, I think some people watch cop shows and they're like take them down. I like and I think that is oh, yeah

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That's gross. Look, I remember one time I was watching an old ass cops

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This was like one of the first probably like four or five years cops was in its existence

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they didn't have the formula down for a while and one time they just parked a semi in a clearly black neighborhood a

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Poor black neighborhood. They parked a giant semi and they left it unlocked and the driver like was like it's not working

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I'm gonna walk away and then people would like open the doors and be like, oh shit

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There's like VCRs and TVs and then they would grab them and then the cops were in the back of the semi

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They would come out and arrest people like that's those stuff and those charges would never stick like they're just doing that to humiliate people

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That's that's that's absolutely they would never fly in court

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But I also like a guy but also let me say this if I were in that neighborhood

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I probably wouldn't steal a VCR. But if I saw like a semi with the thing open, there's no fucking way

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I wouldn't look inside there. There's no way. I do like on live PD where sometimes you you realize stuff

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You can get away with and like stuff that's not a good like they're just like look if sometimes someone's walking down the street

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And they're just being real weird. They're like, there's no crime against being weird

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It's or like if they're in their house like one time this that they just your house is your king

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My husband's just real drunk. Can you please just come by and they're like has he put his hands on you?

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They're like, no, he's just really drunk. And this one guy was just like what you doing in my house

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They're just like look man

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You get you got to just go to bed

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And it's like so fun of like sometimes a cop's job is just to go to a house and be like Dan

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Go to bed. He goes what time you to work tomorrow guy goes

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Seven thirty in the morning. He goes you're never gonna make it

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Guarantee it, you know, see I'd love to watch

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I know it's so fun, but not to like not because that guy who's drunk is a shithead, right?

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But because that scenario is hilarious. Yeah, adorable. Yeah adorable. They're like, you've got to go to bed

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He goes I go to bed you go to bed. Your job is to try and give good advice

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Yeah, or one lady had smoked meth and she swore her boyfriend was under the floor

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Her ex who cheated on her I believe was under the floor and the cops goes

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Yeah, this happens a lot with these people who do meth. They think people are in the floorboards or in the walls

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It's very common delusion. I got it. And then at one point an ambulance just showed up and she just goes

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All right, it's just got an ambulance

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All right. Okay, cool. They got saline drips in there

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Yeah, now the only thing I would say and I think this is an important point to make is that most of these people who?

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Are having these like drunk delightful experiences with the gasps are white and people who know not always but I imagine a lot

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Black guy can go a long way on live PD a charismatic black guy. They're just like this guy's a treasure

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Look at this guy. Well, I would say that the number of times black people get jammed up. Yeah

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Dude, they're sure by the police. Oh, that's not gonna be on live PD. You do see a lot of see

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Here's the thing with live PD and I'm not defending cops shooting people who I would hope should not be shot for any reason

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But you do sometimes from watching live PD you see some of the the stress and the pressure of that job

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Come on, Adam. No, dude, I'm serious. Like some people are doing some real shady shit, and they're just like yo, man

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What are you doing? Right? I understand that but

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There's no way you don't think that's what you're signing up for as a no-no-no for sure

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I know if you can't handle that with a plumb then don't fucking do it. I'm not saying that

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I'm just saying there are times where you see people and you're like and they'll say to them they're like look man

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If if I was a different cop, you might have gotten shot here. Like I know what I'm doing

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I've been doing this for 20 years. I know I know what to do but shit man, like dude

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I almost had to shoot you one guy just came running at them going shoot me shoot me in that case

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You probably should shoot and they shot him with a taser, but they're like, dude, you can't do that. Like what are you doing?

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I love the idea of a post game after that just sitting with him. I love it

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Hey, man, look, I saw you running at me saying shoot me

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Can't do that. Someone will shoot. I love afterwards when they talk and they're like look man

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That's like that moment with like on dog bounty hunter all the time after he'd catch him and like sitting down

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With him talking like new cigarette. Yeah, like hey man, be cool. Everything's all right. We got you know, there's some

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There's some cops where I'll tell Sarah cuz like after a while you start to recognize the cops cuz they follow the same ones over

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And over again and there's some I'm like, oh this guy's so good at talking to people afterwards

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He's like man, what were you do this black guy? Who's like such a good cop. He's like, what were you doing?

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I'm like, I don't know and he's like did you think you were gonna get away and they're like, yeah

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I thought I was gonna get away. It's like once I have that fence

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I thought I'd be out of here

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But those cars I didn't know you had a dog those cops are the ones are trying to transition into a secondary career

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Steve Welco where whatever the Jerry Springer guy was. Yeah, exactly trying to get their own show

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He goes, man, I didn't know you had a dog. I would have outran you guys, but the dog. Yeah

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All right, so we're so far

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back to Roddy Roddy Piper

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So it's interesting actually that we've been talking about these this cop show for as long as we live PD

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Because in this next clip Alex after like I said

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a

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long why is back

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Alex and Piper have been having a conversation about like why does why does everybody else not see through this stuff?

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But we do why are we the only ones of glasses and out rod?

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Rowdy Roddy Piper and Alex suggests that it's something that might show up on

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Live PD possibly mushrooms and I think you just answered my question there that I said at the beginning of the break

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I was gonna reintroduce what makes those of us that are immune or resistant to the programming and I think it's that we

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Grew up as individuals and we grew up and had a brush with the streets

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I grew up in a middle-class area

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But for whatever reason there was a lot of fights a lot of corrupt police government drug dealing a lot of police running hookers

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You name it and I grew up?

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You know watching this going on in my neighborhood and then watching the same cops give speeches against drug use at school

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And I called him out and they threatened to kill me and stuff

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but I think that was kind of my wake-up was I put the sunglasses on because I saw the other side and

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Saw how naive everybody is. I think you said it best. They want to get the youth dumb them down

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Make it all a bunch of political correctness to where the kids don't even know how to make a sandwich

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bullshit

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kids know how to make sandwiches. All right a cop pulled Alex a cop busted Alex and his friends one time and

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And emasculated Alex well

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I mean he's even talked about the time that a Nazi cop pulled him over and let him go cuz he was white

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Like he talked about that

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He started a clip one time talking about like I've never seen white racism and then went into a story about like how him

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And his buddies were underage with beer in the car. Yeah driving back from like a party at the beach

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It was a different time and then this cop pulls him over with a Nazi tattoo on his arm

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And it's like sees that they're white. It's like you kids. Have a good night. Oh, man. I'm like Alex

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You're just you just described very clear white racism. Just because it didn't hurt

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Cop again. No he's anti cop back then he's talking about this

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Corruption that he called him out, and they threatened to kill me. I don't believe any of that stuff again Rockwall, Texas

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30 3100 people they don't think they had that kind of organized the CIA or something no, that's all bullshit

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I did a bunch of research into his dad recently. Yeah, there's no evidence that his dad was ever involved in any

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CIA

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Anything like that he's been a dentist since like 1980 something or no longer than that's where they put the chips in

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He he claims that he was a dentist to some CIA agents, and that's sort of the closest you can get to anything

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Substantial Alex I when the Paul all turn on these guys. That's when you know it's like. Oh, man

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There was this there's his dad is his HR rep okay his dad runs the human resource

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You did the research that yeah, dad wasn't what he said. No his dad runs human resources at Infowars

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We know that because two employees have sued him for

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EEOC complaints and his dad had to go on record as the person who runs the human resources department

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And he said hey look. It's a locker room here. It's a yeasty environment

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Fuck you. Locker room talk baby. Exactly. Yeah, hey man sometimes. We lock her up room talk. Yeah

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Sometimes Rob Doo says uh the n-word who knows

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That's just Rob being robbed baby. Rob

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I just think I don't believe any of this and I don't believe any of the stuff about his dad being in the CIA

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Yeah, that's just stuff that the internet keeps repeating because they want to create this narrative that Alex Jones works for Masad

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Israel or the government or something like that when in reality it's much simpler

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He's a 2-bit con man who's also a white supremacist. Yeah. He's a that explains his entire career

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You don't need the intelligence agency who's being used by

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Well now the president the president, but Russia also probably I think mmm

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I think that connection is much looser. I think that they what is Roger Stone. What do you think Roger Stone thinks of Alex?

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I think he thinks he's very stupid

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He's like

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Alright for himself. Yeah, totally. I think that when they met they met in 2013

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I think they met it well

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I know they met at a JFK convention, and I think that a Roger Stone probably immediately recognized a very

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Very competent person and Alex is very talented. Okay, but also that he's

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stupid and

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Compromisable okay, and I think that as the days wore on and Roger left Trump's campaign in order to do

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Propaganda outside of it. I think he realized Alex is a perfect perfect

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Tool for that and went to work on him and realized it'd be very easy to compromise him

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And who knows if it was money or just being like hey Trump's a white nationalist, too

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You know he will further the goals that you

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Want it's very clear. That's what you're about. Do you think that stones a white nationalist?

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I think that he doesn't have principles. Yeah, I think that he's he's an anarchist

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I think he's a chaos agent yeah to the like the very definition

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Nihilist he's a nihilist. I think that he I think based on the people he buddies up with I don't think that I

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Think it'd be impossible to do that without being sympathetic to white nationalism and white supremacy

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But I don't know from

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There's a there's a like there's such a trend of like it seems like he's fucking around that like I

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Feel like he just like and I'm certain he's cut a deal too. We talked about this a bit

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I'm pretty sure he's cut a deal. What's he been saying lately? I haven't been listening

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Oh, he's just doing the same stuff blustery nonsense

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But like the way the walls are closing in and the way that he has to keep admitting like well

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Yes, of course. I did talk to that guy. Oh, yeah, like that sort of stuff. I never said I didn't right

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There's a there's a feeling of invulnerability

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That he has that I don't get from a lot of other people

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I got a sense especially from watching that documentary with him where he's just like

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Well, the Republicans didn't want me and fuck the Democrats. So fuck everybody. I'm gonna fuck all this shit up

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That's the that's what I get from him chaos chaos, baby. Yeah agent of chaos. Yeah

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I don't think he has any like hard and fast alliances to nationalism to Russia to anything

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I think he's got an allegiance to I think and freaky

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I think he's absolutely and also he's this in the same boat as Alex like he's very competent like

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As much as it pains and now he's awesome at what he does anyone in our boat hates to admit like that sort of thing

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But like Alex is an amazing study. I keep saying they need to study this guy. Yeah. Yeah, he's really good at propaganda

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I'm sure when he finally goes full

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You know against Trump and and what do you want to know?

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They could be he's gonna be like the guy in in a catch me if you can where they're like now

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he teaches lucky Luciano teaches people how to how to

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Find the people who are running all the scams whoever was the first like mafioso to flip

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He's the guy who's like this is what's really going on

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Yeah

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I don't think it'll ever come to that because I don't think you need that kind of information and

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He's gonna go to prison. No, I think he's got a deal

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I'm almost certain he's got a deal like part of the deal probably that I can't I'm gonna cut this deal

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But part of the deal is no one can know I cut this deal. I'm gonna disappear to Argentina

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I'm gonna be doing a podcast from someone keeps pointing out

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Not just someone it keeps getting pointed out that like whenever shit gets really hot

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Roger ends up showing up on Infowars like in studio. Yes. It's like might want to be close to the border

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Uh-huh, just slip away

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He seems like the kind of guy like in a movies around like a white suit with a white fedora and he just disappears

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Into a crowd into a crowd. Yeah, absolutely like the end of that

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Silence of the Lambs sequel you can't you can't be like

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He was known as a fucking shithead

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Potsterer. Yeah, 30 years ago. Yeah, you can't survive this long without being like

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Having exit strategies without having like an idea of what's gonna happen. He's never been this much of a marquee player

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in the things that are happening and like politically, yeah, and I

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Don't think that he wouldn't have an exit strategy and that probably

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Niche or he's got enough dirt on people. Yeah, I'm sure he's like hey, man

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Looks like I'm gonna go down for some of this stuff. So

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You politician are probably gonna have to put in a word good word for me

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Otherwise, I'd hate to let people know that me and my wife fucked you and your wife or something. Anyway, anyway

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So at this point, uh, they go to calls. All right, we got Piper. We got Alex Jones body big fan

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We got Sean Stone who's been silent most of this time just sitting there in the camera with Roddy Piper

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Just being like hey, I'm friends of this guy. Yeah, and so they take calls and this first call

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Is interesting because they like I said, I cut out most of the times that Alex is just geeking out about they live

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But they are talking in this call about they the they of they live. Okay, and this caller

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Kind of gets where Alex is coming from

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Want to take some phone calls?

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Rowdy, you ready to take some calls. You betcha. All right, let's go to will in Georgia. You're on the air with also really quick

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I want to just be clear Alex keeps calling him rowdy rowdy as if rowdy is his first name like rowdy

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Let's do this. It's very much like come on, man

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With the legendary star of they live go ahead

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Thanks. That's a great movie rowdy. You did a good job. I was a true ministry on the late they live

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I actually married into the they part of they live to control the New York LA Sodom and Gomorrah access Hollywood Babylon

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And they taught my kids every morning on Saturday during worship services that everybody wasn't part of their tribe

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With subhuman animals cattle just like I said in the movie that there and they actually put that I mean that the the preacher

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The rabbi would tell them that your job growing up and from birth

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They told them this is the cheat right to rob and slave and kill all the Gentiles

Unknown Speaker (02:15:11.880)

All right. Well, listen, do you have a you have a specific question, sir?

Unknown Speaker (02:15:14.880)

Well, no, I mean, it's just we're we're weeks America is our focus has to be on the Creator who's named the sovereign of the United States

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The creative universe. All right. Well, listen, I appreciate your call. We've got questions or comments for our guest. We don't screen calls

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Like that is just a guy who's regurgitating the protocols of the elders of Zion and pretending that his children were taught that in some

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Sort of synagogue sure Sunday school because he's like I married one of them

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Yeah, and they are the Jews. Yeah, that is the

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For-alex to pretend like this isn't exactly what someone listening to my show. This is like that clay ludicrous

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There's that clip of Alex. I think they played it on the on Sam Cedars show it was

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Alex was at a bar

Unknown Speaker (02:16:00.079)

Oh, yeah, that was great. And that guy was like I own infowars records. I want to make rap

Unknown Speaker (02:16:05.079)

I want to do like rap and he goes hey, haha. Cool. All right, Alex fucking pound me by your drink

Unknown Speaker (02:16:10.199)

I like to get out of the beer and get I might get the fuck out of here

Unknown Speaker (02:16:13.000)

It's like Alex. These are your fans. No, these are the people who you've been helping

Unknown Speaker (02:16:17.159)

No, but but also I totally think that was the right thing to do get out of there

Unknown Speaker (02:16:21.720)

Sure, like I get that but like he knows that but it's like he hates his fans, you know

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These are your fans like listen, man

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That's the thing with Trump when he's at those rallies like he must be like get me the fuck out of here

Unknown Speaker (02:16:34.280)

Yeah, yeah, you have people who are just like I have created a thing. Yeah

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I will deny caught the consequences of it

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I will escape it at every every possible turn because like I mean

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I think that I think that some of that is unavoidable sure to some extent

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I think that no matter what if you have a fan base

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There are some people in it that are like, but I think that it's probably 80% of Alex Jones's. Oh, it's like

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Not let's not talk to that guy rarely. Yeah. Well, he meets what he's like. Oh my god, Alex. I'm such a huge fan of yours

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I'm crazy seeing you in this

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Airport bar, you know, we're in the VIP club. That's crazy. I mean we've met a couple people who have like

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Keegan and John are a couple listeners who have come to Chicago and I've gone and got some drinks with them

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Sure, and then when we were down in Austin, both of them were there and other folks

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I don't want to name everybody cuz I forget some but Heather and Mike and

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Chris like I met all these people and like there you go. I didn't think anybody was a yeah real

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Real monster or anything. Sure. I've met a bunch of people and I'm very happy to have drinks with them and absolutely

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No, they're saying I don't think there's ever an instance where Alex

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Well, oh boy. I see what you're writing there. Don't

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Most of them are cool people I get you

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Yeah, Alex what that would that that when there was that Marty Marty was just writing on a piece of paper

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the the code name of someone that

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That we met a possible problematic an apostle of Alex

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But I will say watching that video was just like yes. This is what you've created

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Yeah, this kid and you're unwilling to yeah, you're unwilling to deal with me

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What's your point? What's your question?

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Yeah, if someone were to come up to me like that and it were like a accurate represent. I just went Dan

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Thanks for opening my eyes to these Jews taking over the world

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I would talk to them for a bit and hope that I could correct some of those perceptions

Unknown Speaker (02:18:36.860)

You listen to Alex so I don't have to thanks for cutting out and just let me know his message

Unknown Speaker (02:18:41.459)

Well, I would try I would I would I would sincerely try to like see where the disconnect was

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Yeah, see what they weren't understanding. Yeah, and if it weren't possible, I would say like please reconsider a lot of this stuff

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Yeah, there's nothing I can do

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Maybe you should stop listening to my yeah or something like that because it's like I don't think you're you might not get it

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Yeah

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But I don't know. So thank you for your patreon donations. Yes

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So this caller this first one clearly thinks that's the Jews. Yes, but rowdy rowdy Piper Zion

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Maybe Piper has a slightly different take on it

Unknown Speaker (02:19:15.540)

Well, I was gonna ask I should want to ask rowdy that because um, you know, this is Sean stone finally trying to try to help things

Unknown Speaker (02:19:22.200)

Yeah, I'm really curious to know where that story came from because Carpenter wrote it and I mean and you're here

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He must you know in your interaction with it

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It's me

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I'm sure you came across some interesting discussions as to what he thought, you know

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Who would who they really are? And if does he really believe that they that they are alien who is they exactly? Yeah

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At that time in 88, I think it came out in 88

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They was the propaganda the world was shoving down our throats

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Um, but John and I we talked a lot before we made this movie. I took it real serious and

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Chuck garbage is cool, dude. You know, I don't want to speak for John, but just did the way I remember it

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is

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again, I'm I don't think that we're the only I

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Don't think we're the only living

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A source of energy in the universe by any means at all

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And there's big committees right now getting together and saying talking about

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People or excuse me things from other planets aliens whatever you want to call it all whites grays reptiles

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Yet, we weren't that detailed with it

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But John and I both agreed that we don't think that we're alone in the universe

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And I think that I ran across a doctor friend of mine who didn't agree with me at all

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And I found that amazing that

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An educated man like that would not

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Would not see that far but maybe you know what maybe I'm the crazy one. I don't know there maybe so it's aliens

Unknown Speaker (02:21:00.219)

It's literal aliens. So yes, your your hip replacement was successful. Also, I don't believe aliens exist and I am crazy

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Okay. All right, man. Just go to check out. I

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Don't know man, like so one caller is like it's the Jews. It's clearly the Jews and then you know

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Stone is like trying to fix this a little bit like who are they? Well, I believe it's literal aliens. Yeah

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Mmm, well, you saw their blue faces, you know, so what you do. Why did you just draw a star there now?

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board, okay

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Just doodling a little I'm a doodle maybe D. I thought that was like some trigger in your I also was on Robocop

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That's another example with the first movie

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Perfect. Sure second one. They're reaching a little bit some of those

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Terrible the commercial no, not the remake Robocop 2, but I thought the remake was pretty bad too. Oh

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For sure. Well, the first one was so

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Perfect. Yeah. Yeah

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All right. So Marty we've come to the last clip. Yes the main event if you will

Unknown Speaker (02:22:00.180)

Uh, maybe I don't know. I think the main event is the opening just like the revelation that rowdy Piper was on Infowars

Unknown Speaker (02:22:08.219)

Which is such a bummer. I know it's such a bummer all around but it happens over and over again

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Like Gore Vidal was on Infowars

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You know

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Like I said Henry Rollins is on not so much of a disappointment to any of us that Billy Corgan's been on a bunch of

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Times or surprise and Jesse Ventura not really a disappointment because whenever he comes on he argues with Alex

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I like Jesse a lot. He's always like Alex you make no sense

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That sort of shit, which is great

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I like when when Jesse's on and Alex will throw some madam and he'll just completely be like nah. Nah, that's not a thing

Unknown Speaker (02:22:41.979)

Alex here's why you're wrong

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I don't I don't do great impressions

Unknown Speaker (02:22:46.500)

No, but also I've noticed like if you if you listen carefully to a lot of the like Piper

Unknown Speaker (02:22:51.579)

Yeah, there's a number of like sounds that he makes that are very Ventura

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Yeah, like the two of them have some similar vocal patterns. Yeah. Anyway, they're all just dudes from Minnesota

Unknown Speaker (02:23:01.700)

He's planning from Canada via Scotland probably all from Canada. Is he really from Scotland?

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Of course, so in this last clip caller calls in to ask about aliens. Okay, and

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Roddy Roddy Piper has an interesting response

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Real fast callers. You got quick questions Ryan and Missouri are on the air. Go ahead

Unknown Speaker (02:23:20.979)

Hey gentlemen, you know, they live they had the underground tunnel system underground base system. My question is

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Some people think that Denver International is like some super secret. Yeah base space port, whatever you guys want to call

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There's giant underground bases everywhere. Yeah. Yes. I mean, I guess my question is do you think it you don't like the movie?

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They say it's almost like alien

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Does I mean I guess Roddy already answer that but does he think that you know, does he put two and two together like that?

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I thought I know exactly what you're talking about in Denver and that they had a huge portrait

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from like the Holocaust to

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chemical weapons and then they took the picture down so I understand what you're saying again, they

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They you need to stand up against a and I yes

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Yes to the the answer coming into that tunnel site where the Illuminati have their meetings

Unknown Speaker (02:24:10.979)

All right, Roddy. He's hooked. He's me 2012 Roddy. I need 2012

Unknown Speaker (02:24:17.780)

Roddy this is so disappointing. He watches a lot of videos

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It seems like maybe a lot of YouTube and just learned how to use the YouTube machines and I'm on there

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Just getting all the information

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Smoking my medicinal marijuana all these nice boys are sending me links to watch stuff. I'm very scared of that blue horse

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Taking it down. Oh, so it's interesting that I mean taking the blue horse down. Is that right? Yeah, we're gonna miss Lucifer

Unknown Speaker (02:24:42.500)

I think I think it's like the the time is up or it was supposed to be whatever the lease was. Yeah

Unknown Speaker (02:24:47.579)

Well, yeah, that's fine. It was a faulty construction to begin with murderous horse, but it's maker indeed as you and I know

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Yes, because we did an episode about this crack the case

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We've looked deeply into the Denver Airport and that mural is a very it's very specifically not Nazi in nature

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It's a part of a series of murals that lead from a horrible situation

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Into a positive view for the future the children and the guy who made the murals has a whole backstory

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all of this you can find by

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Donating to our podcast you can go to knowledgefight.com clicking support the show and then you get a password to a

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Secret section or knowledgefight.com secret underground portal that you can go down there, right?

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Where our conspiracy shows a lot of locker room talk. It's such bullshit man. It's really disappointing like

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you you

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For someone who's not a monster like rowdy roddy pipe

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Yeah, you hope that they would be the sort of person who wouldn't offer these things up. Yeah without being prompted

Unknown Speaker (02:25:47.899)

You know, like I know if he's on the show and Alex brings it up and he's like, oh, that's weird

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There's no like that

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That's kind of different but for him to be sitting there and then like unprompted be like

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There's Nazi things at the Denver Airport. Also, the the Brunswick affair is real

Unknown Speaker (02:26:02.579)

The New World Order is is happening all this stuff. It's like a man now man, that sucks

Unknown Speaker (02:26:08.700)

I mean still was you know, presumably a very decent guy and it's sad

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a lot of

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like wrestlers

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Actors guys like travel the world. They're all I just think people got hit a lot. No, no

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I'm talking about guys who like traveled the world. Mm-hmm. These people have traveled the world

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They always had these stories about like I was in an airport and I talked to this weatherman. Mm-hmm from Dallas. He told me

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We see UFOs all the time

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We have these like weird people who talk to them and they're like and I thought the same thing

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I thought this guy's crazy, but the more I talked to him the more I knew

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Scandal's what he's talking about. All right

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Well, I mean the light liquid coming back from Austin I sat next to a lady on the plane. It was a sweet lady

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I can't remember her name. I feel bad about that because we had a very nice conversation

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Most of the flight like it was only like a 40-minute flight to Houston or whatever. Yeah, it's the connecting flight

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But we had a really nice conversation about how her brother

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Is into a bunch of conspiracy stuff and they have bonfires where he does some like there's some sort of like, you know

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Maybe a little druidic acting out and stuff like that

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But I could pivot that into some sort of a like I met someone who's going to a pagan ritual in Houston

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There's nothing I get if I wanted to yeah, that's what all of these conversations that you hear are sure our misrepresentations

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We've covered it repeatedly with Alex. Like he's in a hot tub with a globalist or something

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I love I was on a plane. I love my voice you tired and I know exactly what episode you're talking about

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Or you're just like god. I wish I was like sitting next to Alex on a plane

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I would just fuck with them so bad there, but it happens all the time

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He has all these and they all had those stories of like because I met a dude, you know

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That's like you're like fucking like Stan. Hope or whatever. Look I don't know one time

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I met this dude and he told me okay, dude. Sure. I don't believe you

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You know not you you were doing cocaine with another person. Of course, you guys were telling weird stories. You were fucked up

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I don't believe that anybody who we might like. Yeah, like a Stan. Hope. Yeah something like that is in an airport and not

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Severely fucked up sure and also a magnet for other fucked up people just like Alex wasn't that video with that weird kid coming up

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To him being like I own Infowars records. It doesn't exist in a vacuum

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Yeah, you attract your own kind to some extent

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Yeah, and if you are someone who's just like maybe a little bit weird having a conversation with someone like Alex

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Maybe you want to impress him a little bit and you start to lie about your credentials

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So many possibilities then it's the whole like well I heard from this guy

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Well, why don't I just say it's I know this instead of I heard from my dentist who put this guy under

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It was a CAH and as he got a little loopy. He's like, you know, there's aliens everywhere, right?

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I'll just say I knew I talk. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna cut the middleman

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I'm gonna not mention he was on the gas. It gives me a little more glory in this story

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Well, I mean we've hundred percent even

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trace this down like Alex talks about like having firsthand knowledge that there are fish people in tanks with sad human faces and

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Stuff like that and he's getting it from this guy named Steve Quayle who heard it from somebody else

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Yeah, so it's a third-hand story to Alex even second hand to Steve Quayle

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Third first hand who knows who that person is someone who Steve Quayle ran into at an airport or whatever

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You don't think Alex gets a little fucked up. Sometimes. They got to tell you Billy told me we got off the air

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All the time

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He's fucking

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Alex is a drunk. Yeah, of course that happens all the time. I'm sure man and from what I've hey, come on. He's he's

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Fucking Joe Rogan's lovable little friend

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Yep

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from what I've heard to for people who have

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Like spent time with him or run into him at bars and stuff

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He see like Alex is maybe less now

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But in historically has been someone who is really into people approved like being approving of him

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And so like he would tell like a lot of fish stories at bars and stuff like that

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They're there. I've talked to a number of people who have been a party of you think Alex holds court? Yeah

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Yeah, exactly

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Okay, but Wow, everyone is like we know like everyone's rolling their eyes and he's telling like no no no

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Guys around a good time here everybody around

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You already it's been so fun. Hey, man. I'm sorry to ruin or slightly tweak your version of ratty-rotty Piper. I

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Have learned a long time ago

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Whether it's your Hulk Hogan's your Ric Flair's your Steve Austin's or stuff Stone Cold in the past that I'm not proud of hit ladies

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I

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Take them there. These are not

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People to be put on a pedestal. They're regular people. Mm-hmm

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They're they're very talented at their at their job. You're able to separate art from artists and separate art from artists

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I can God I can still watch Chris Benoit wrestle and go man

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I was a great wrestler, but he was a monster in real life. You kind of have to to some extent

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I don't know where the line is necessarily but there is a line there's a line. I think

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Man, I think if there's a line Ben was past it. I don't know I just recently I watched

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You know what? You know what if he'd murdered his family before

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He was so great

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Then you could never enjoy how great he was

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But because you already had watched it and you had all those feelings. Yeah, you're never gonna be able to get rid of those feelings

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Yeah, I don't know if that helps bring your baggage to the table. Yeah

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and you know, it's the wrestling business is a business where

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You know, it's a lot of trickery and and fakery and and

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Let them know only what you want them to know up like that

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So you watch a lot of it and you're just like are you here a lot of these guys like you were saying with Alex?

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Well this if he says this then that's gonna contradict that you've shared these old wrestlers and they're like, well, here's what happened

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Well, you've been saying this for 20 years. That's that's the that's the kayfabe

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Uh-huh. It's like well, you know, here's the real story and it's also a business where people are destroyed

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You know like just by virtue of doing the job

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So like so Roddy Piper the performer love them Roddy Piper the actor in they live, right or the Jesse Ventura

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ABC pilot tag team on available on YouTube where they are

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Pro wrestlers and undercover cops. I think he did

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I think he did drop a reference to it at some point in this

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Interview cuz he does I didn't know that him and Jesse Ventura would have ever actually been a tag team in yeah in wrestling

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Yeah, but he does say he and I did tag team and I was like, yeah does the timeline work with that?

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I'm not sure it does. It's talking about the TV pilot. Also body slam is a great movie. Sure

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So, you know, he's done some great work. Yes, but unfortunately, he's also kind of stupid

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Yeah, and that sucks

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But you know, you can't expect everyone to be wonderful and it doesn't seem like he's a bigot like it for everything

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That's when we a couple hours ago when we were talking. Yeah, I was like he seems stupid

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But in the world, he's in the infowars pool that he's in it makes him not seem as bad

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Yeah, he doesn't seem like he hates people

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he doesn't seem like and that's a win if you come out of infowars like looking like you're not a monster then and

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uh, you know, not this isn't and not an educated man, you know, he started wrestling it like what 14

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Yeah, I know no high school. No college. Yeah

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you know prime prime for Alex to you know, woo him with his

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knowledge of

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White nation male of a certain age not educated

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Right. He's a four banger like all the owner of infowars records

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Oh boy

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Mmm, that guy he's a spider-man. Hell. Yeah, you know that six-street spider-man. No, I don't know that

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He mentions that in the at the bar with Alex. He's like, I'm the spider-man on 6th Street

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It's a guy he dresses up like spider-man on 6th Street has a quiz no sign flips it around

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Man, when we were down in Austin, I'd been to 6th Street before like I'd partied with some like college friends

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Yeah, like, you know 6th Street gets shut down at a certain point on the weekends and there's his horse cops

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Get a little rowdy everywhere a little rowdy. It's awesome. But like I hadn't been in years and when we were down there

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It was actually really depressing because we had our show that started at like I think we started at 10

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Yeah, or whatever maybe 9

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And so we went down there early. We're on 6th Street at like 7 grabbing a bite and like there were people

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Really drunk. I was in New Orleans on is out. I was in New Orleans WrestleMania. So I said that Bourbon Street

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I'm just like wow, this is I

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Think like being day drunk is awesome. It's fun. Yeah, don't get me wrong

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I'm not judging. Yeah, but like when you're out on the party street and you're fucked up

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Like sun's out five six seven. I

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Don't know how some of these people over WrestleMania weekend or week whatever didn't die. We're just like

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Drinking all day all night. No, no, we drink too late in the morning

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It's like Jesus Christ. Just take a little do a little

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Cocaine I guess take it back up go see some guys throw some grabs

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I guess you uh, you make it back, you know, you get excited the adrenaline comes in

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You get a little more cocaine keeps on with the cocaine sure make it through the whole weekend. That's probably how

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Why I got sleepy. I mean enough cocaine. Yeah, exactly, you know, it's a magic drug

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Yeah, basically what I want to get to at the end of this is cocaine is wonderful

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I guess

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No, that's not what I want to get to I want to say again Marty, thank you. Thank you

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It's been delight people should check out your show Marty and Sarah love wrestling. Yes, sir at Marty and Sarah love wrestling calm

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Yep, also all sorts of like one of the things I want to give you two very sincere compliment

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Okay, one is that you guys are so good at social media. Thank you. You're you're amazing. And I Sarah I had a hunch

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But at the same time you guys do a great job with that and then secondarily

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The reason I want to give you that compliment is I'm the worst at it. I'm trying I want to get better

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Okay, it's just a disaster. But the other thing is you guys do so many awesome things

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For your listeners who are in need. Yes, you do so many like help boost

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people's

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GoFundMe for medical bills and stuff like that and I think that is so fucking cool

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I I think you are answer are both hilarious

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awesome performers and creative types, but it's so cool that you make a priority to

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Be such humans like that. So I think that maybe you don't get enough compliments for that

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That's very nice. And I imagine that's also all Sarah

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That's all me. All right, fuck these people their problem. No Sarah. We got to help these people, but it's so cool. That's awesome

Unknown Speaker (02:37:00.860)

You know, I appreciate that. Thank you. I think it's wonderful that when people have the ability to do that they

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Funnel energy into that because a lot of people don't think of that and it's that uh

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You know, it's they with the whole like, oh, it's better to give than to receive a spiel, right?

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No, it is actually nice to like do nice things for people. Yeah

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so

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What else?

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You do stand up what else NAMI org if you need to talk to somebody if you're not feeling

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Is that a sponsor? No, but I always like to put that out there right now. Okay everything in the world being all weird

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What is that NAMI let's we can get a therapist. No one can spell that and am I dot org?

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Okay, NAMI org. Okay, like I would have gone. I thought it would be NAH now. Nah me nhm e nah

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I don't work. Okay live PD if you want a fun TV show

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Toy galaxy if you like stuff from the

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He keeps saying Tokyo Rhett and Link if you like bad stuff Rhett and Link if you want to start your day shitty now

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Good. Oh, I don't know man. Go see the men's and yours in November in

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Chicago

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AAW

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AAW is my home promotion. There's commentary for that. I'll be on the Chris Jericho cruise. That's right

Unknown Speaker (02:38:10.120)

You and Colts both and Sarah. That's

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There. Oh, I thought you guys were doing a podcast on there. Colt and I are doing a

Unknown Speaker (02:38:15.639)

Oh, that's right. Okay. So we'll be at all in if you guys are going to all in seriously

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Yeah, we'll be you're all in I'm all in baby. We'll be at all in

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Did they post a picture of you two? They certainly certainly did we are all in we'll be there all weekend

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And there was one show where Alex kept saying that he's all in. Yeah against the globalist

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Yeah, it's someone on our

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I'm all into they

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Photoshop of Alex. Oh, yeah with his shirt off and let me say thank you for all the content that you and Jordan of course

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I did it's our delight

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Pleasure as always so if anyone wants more of our show you can check out knowledge fight calm

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But beyond that more importantly Marty we've come to the end of this episode

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yes, and as is tradition someone needs to be told to go fuck themselves and

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The guest when Jordan's not here is the person who's got it side and it's tough

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Because Alex Jones if you say that that's very hacky

Unknown Speaker (02:39:35.399)

Yeah, but at the same time if you say righty righty Piper that feels really shitty

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So you've got to choose someone else and I don't think you want to say Sean Stone cuz you don't know anything about that

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I don't Sean stones life. How about that's gotta be someone else. We've talked about I guess thankfully

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We've gone on so many to have gone on someone we've talked about

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I'm gonna say

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Let's see who can go fuck you just you

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You know what

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Mentioned uh, I mentioned Kevin Nash

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Did you I mentioned Kevin Nash being a cool heel? No, I don't think you did. No, you just wrote it in your notes

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No, um, oh Vince Russo, yeah, I'll fuck himself you gotta say it as a complete sentence Vince Russo

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Fuck off Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Oh Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you