Transcript/130C: Endgame, Part 3

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Hey, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I am Dan. The other voice you will hear in just a moment is my co-host and dear friend, Jordan.

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And this, you have joined us today for the third installment of our coverage of Alex Jones' documentary, in heavy quotes, Endgame.

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And, you know, this thing is a pile of garbage. It absolutely wouldn't pass muster as a, let's say, junior high history project.

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If Alex turned this in and I was his teacher, I would say, incomplete needs work. I'd probably give it a D, reflecting effort.

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I think he's shown some effort. But in terms of proving any of the assertions he makes, as you can tell from the last four hours of coverage so far leading up to part three,

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he has failed to accurately cite a number of things, and that trend does continue.

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Today's episode, we begin where we left off last time, and that was Alex Jones is really pissed off about a road.

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He is really mad about this trans Texas corridor, so, you know, he lies a little bit about it to begin this thing, and then we jump off into eugenics and Nazis at a certain point.

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So, enjoy.

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.

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I love you.

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Now there's a road.

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There's a road.

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Somebody's gotta fuckin' stop this goddamn road.

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Yeah, and it's gonna be up to Texas.

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It's gonna be all the white people who's gonna do it.

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Texas is that, it's that backstop in case the globalists get too powerful.

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Which is why we took it in the first place, Dan.

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Right, I know, it's William Travis shit. Texas has gotta stop this road.

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Texas has gotta get in it.

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The next stage of this world government plan is to have a transportation control, and that is called the NAFTA super highway, or in Texas called the trans Texas corridor.

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It confiscates 584,000 acres of land to be transferred into control of a Spanish company which will collect tolls in Texas for the next 50 years, and there's no limit in the amount of tolls that can be collected.

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It could be million dollars to ride on the road.

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Oh no! There's no limit? There's no way the free market will ever create a limit on it.

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Cause the free market doesn't exist. It's anti-prosperity. These are globalists. They'll charge you four, five dollars?

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It's not like what he's describing isn't the direct product of the free market.

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Have you tried to drive from fuckin' Chicago to New York? Do you know how many goddamn tolls you have to pay?

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So many. So many.

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And who knows where that money goes?

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Who knows?

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You hope it's to the state you're driving in.

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It probably doesn't.

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Could be Spain.

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Could be Spain.

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More than 80 February state highways have been designated as international arteries.

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What are these Missouri? There's so much in Missouri.

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The I-35 NAFTA corridor starts deep inside Mexico and travels through the middle of the United States and ends in central Canada.

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Container ships from Asia dump their cargo on the Pacific side of Mexico, then travel student-free by rail to the new Kansas City inland port, now considered sovereign soil of Mexico.

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Wait, wait, wait, what? Wait, hold on, wait. Now, if I understand what he just said correctly, Kansas City's port is Mexico.

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It's sovereign soil of Mexico.

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Now, question. If you are a Mexican immigrant who does not have full United States citizenship, can you go to that port?

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All the oxen free was run over to Kansas City's port.

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It's sovereign land of Mexico.

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Yeah, just put up a tent. You're a citizen of the port.

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No, of course.

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Yeah, this isn't true.

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Wait, wait, wait, what?

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So the proposal was made, and this was evidenced by some emails that were sent by a guy named Chris Gutierrez, the president of the Kansas City Smart Port.

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And the idea was that the Mexican customs office space would need to be designated as foreign Mexican sovereign territory and meet certain requirements.

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Oh, yeah, because it would have to be.

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Under this plan, what would happen with this port in Kansas City, this is actually really interesting.

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I disagree with a lot of it, I'll be honest, but it's actually really interesting the proposal that they made.

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And that was that, so what you'd have is you'd have this giant road that leads from Mexico, a port in Mexico, and the first stop they would make would be in Kansas City.

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And at that point, there would be Mexican and American customs officials, so they could check the stuff.

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And the reason they would do this would be to streamline imports and exports in terms of shipping things out of Kansas City and into Kansas City.

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The reason it's Kansas City is Kansas City is the largest trucking hub in the United States.

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I do not know that.

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All trucking routes that transverse the United States go through Kansas City.

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No, well it makes sense, it's because it's fucking dead center.

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Right, and so I'm interested in it in terms of all the rail lines and trucking lines meeting up here as some centralized place,

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where you wouldn't have to take the time for American customs officials to be in Mexico to check stuff, any of that, but at the same time...

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I get the idea. That doesn't sound like a terrible idea, I think there are probably some problems with it, but...

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And the customs office would necessarily need to be sovereign soil of the country whose customs it represents, it's no different than an embassy.

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Otherwise they won't be allowed to enforce their laws.

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Or something along the lines of an embassy.

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There has to be some sort of backing behind them saying, you can't do that, if you say that, we'll start a war.

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Yeah, absolutely. It's really interesting, but when you really look at the idea of why people were pitching this sort of thing,

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there is a lot of simplicity that comes from it, but you look at it and you're like, well, if you just had the ports at some place in America

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shipped directly through a direct line to Kansas City and traverse from there, it wouldn't really be that much further than having them come from Mexico.

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It's obviously they're trying to get around having to pay longshoremen, like in California or some other place.

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Yeah, oh, it turns out the rich people are trying to... Hey, free market, Dan.

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Yeah, all this does come down to, really, is some sort of simplicity and streamlining for these companies at the expense of American port jobs.

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There's a very large downside to this. When you streamline the business, you end up hurting workers, and this is not an exception to that.

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You just end up screwing over people who work at the docks.

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Right.

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But at the same time, it's interesting on a level that is not at all what Alex is saying.

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Oh, no, absolutely not.

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Port isn't Mexican sovereign territory. It's just... I mean, if you wanted to...

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And it wouldn't be... it's not...

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But if you wanted to complain about that, you have to complain about every entity.

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It's not real. Sovereign territory isn't real. It's an imaginary agreement.

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Right.

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It's not that it's Mexican soil. It's that by being there, America's like, that's Mexico, so we're not going to say no to it.

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And Mexico's like, well, this is what we're not going to be, you know, like that.

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It's just an imaginary, you're cool, we're cool.

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Your benefit as America, or these companies, is that you get to pay next to nothing for the longshoremen who are working at the Mexican ports...

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Exactly.

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...in order to offload stuff from ships into trains that end up going up to Kansas City as opposed to paying a living wage to people in Los Angeles.

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Exactly.

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That's not a port in Los Angeles, but whatever. You know what I'm saying.

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There's probably a port in Los Angeles.

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Yeah, there might be. So you're cutting back your expenses on that, and in return you have, you know, this. It's all bullshit.

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Anyway, all it is is...

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Yeah, all the reasons it's interesting to talk about have nothing to do with why Alex is talking about it.

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And the downside of it is just abuse of capitalism. Like, that's all it is.

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At the end of the day, everything we talk about with Alex is, all the downsides are actually the thing he thinks is going to save us.

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Yeah.

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...the heart of the United States.

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Under international agreements, predominantly, foreign companies are placing tolls on already existing paid-for roads.

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Well, if they bought them, damn.

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When did this turn into fucking Robin Hood?

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They will then use the revenue raised to build up the transportation infrastructure of Mexico, not the United States or Canada, so foreign-made products can pour in even faster from Mexico.

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Revenues raised will also be used to fund the fledgling North American Union and its growing bureaucracy.

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Citation needed in bibliography.

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North American trade corridors are also suspiciously similar to time zones. They are actually time zones.

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They're very close, even in name.

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What he has just done is call them time zones. North American trade corridors. Ridiculous.

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Bottom line, they're using our own money to enslave us.

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First of all, they're proposing a North American tribunal, which would be similar to what we have in Chapter 11 of the NAFTA agreement, which is trumped by international law, the U.S. Supreme Court.

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She's the chairman for National-

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The National Eagle Forum. That was founded by Phyllis Schlafly.

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Okay, well then, whatever she has to say can go fucking put its mouth in her fucking face.

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The National Eagle Forum was largely started as a means to organize against the Equal Rights Amendment.

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God damn it, Dan! Why is it that they called it the National Eagle Foundation? Whenever it showed up as National Eagle Foundation, I was like-

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Forum.

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Oh, Forum, whatever it is. I was like, oh, maybe she's an environmentalist, and maybe there are good environmental reasons to be opposed to this.

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Like, oh, well, all the land, it's going to tear apart.

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Schlafly.

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Nope, it turns out it's, we're actually just the hate blacks forum.

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And women, mostly.

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And women, yes, true.

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Our Constitution could potentially be rendered invalid, and what we would have is a new North American business law that would trump what we have here in the United States.

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Does that make sense?

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It's also interesting to note that the NAFTA headquarters is in Mexico and controls the United States trade and rules against United States Congress, and no one seemed to challenge it.

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It's very probable and probably inevitable that our right to bear arms would be challenged in a North American court.

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Why?

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This is just an example of what's happening and what's being proposed.

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We want to keep our tribe by jury system. We want to keep our right to keeping bear arms.

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The laws that say you can't do that.

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We have a Supreme Court, and I have a tribunal that will be superior to the Supreme Court.

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Who would allow that?

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In 2005, Sentra, a Spanish-owned company, signed a secret agreement with the Texas Department of Transportation to erect toll roads on existing roads and to toll new roads that were completely paid for by tax dollars.

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This just got so petty.

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There are people, believe it or not, in Texas who don't know what the transportation corridor is.

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We went from the Bilderberg group to like, these motherfuckers are going to charge us two bucks?

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Two bucks for every 140 miles? That's bullshit!

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I don't even like it.

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No toll station without representation!

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When the truth came out, newspapers across the state called for heads to roll politically.

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Sentra's response was to have its Australian subsidiary make its first U.S. newspaper buy.

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So here is an interesting thing.

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That I'm interested in.

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Alex is making this case that this Spanish company that bought these roads owns this company here, Macaree, this Australian company.

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This is not true at all.

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So Spain owns this Australian company?

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This Australian media company, yeah. So it's actually not true at all.

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The Australian media company Macaree Media bought 40 local papers around Texas and Oklahoma around this time in 2007 by purchasing two parent companies.

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But their intent in doing so was stated as they were trying to put together a portfolio of media operations.

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Sure.

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Alex in no way proves that they did this to silence critics of the trans Texas corridor.

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And he has no citations for it.

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Also, this uh...

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You know, you know, but that's...

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Macaree, hold on.

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It's a big problem whenever people do that.

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Do you know who has done that? Do you know who can provably have been said to have done that?

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Sinclair Media?

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Sheldon Adelson.

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Yeah, but look, look.

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Like the guys who just bought the LA Times. Like these guys are fucking real. Stop it with a random ass Australian company.

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But Jordan, in this case it's not that weird because really this Macaree bought two companies and those two companies combined owned 40 papers.

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So it was two companies that owned 40 and now it's one.

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Which is an infuriating sentence on its own.

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It was bad to begin with.

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Why is it that you bought two companies that also owned 40 companies? This is very angry.

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It was bad to begin with and now it's not that great.

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But they're not owned by a Spanish company.

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It's majority owned by Fairfax Media Limited, an Australian and New Zealand based media giant.

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Because of course. Because they're an Australian company.

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Well then we're not... I'm not afraid of a New Zealand based media giant.

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They're not trying to silence anybody about this road.

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I don't think they care about the road.

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No.

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I don't think...

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This is so frustrating.

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What is there like one billionaire in New Zealand who's like...

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I HATE THIS FUCKING ROAD!

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Yeah. Let's get back to it.

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Every newspaper they bought was along branches of the Trans-Texas corridor and had been critical of the toll road plan.

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The cost of 40 or 50 newspapers is nothing compared to the profits that will be made.

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How do you only buy those newspapers?

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The state toll road plan is estimated to raise more than 200 billion dollars in just the first 15 years.

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Exactly those papers?

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Well...

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Texas is only a small part of the global panorama.

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A combine of transnational companies is aggressively consolidating public finance infrastructure worldwide.

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Oh there is Bono! Bono and Tony Blair!

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Actually now I'm on Alex's side.

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I don't want to be on its side with Bono and Tony Blair.

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A blend of port of corruption where governments simply act as vacuum cleaners sucking up the wealth and resources of the middle class and transferring it to offshore bank accounts.

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Leaving behind a cultural and economic wasteland of easily managed slaves.

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The whole purpose about the North American Free Trade Agreement is not about trade, it's about control.

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Control of people.

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This is even worse. Control of people.

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It's not about trade, it's subsidized trade with tax payer's funds.

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Well you sir have just made so much sense I agree with you.

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We kill this damn thing here.

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Stop it here in Texas, we stop the new world order right here in Texas.

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Polls consistently show that over 90% of the people are against the NAFTA highway systems and its toll roads.

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The people learned of the threat, they got angry and took action.

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Our ranch is part of the original Spanish land grant and I would love to not have to leave it back to Spain.

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Our ranch was literally stolen from other people and I want to make sure that it's not stolen from me.

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I mean I think that's what you just said, I don't want to give it back.

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Opponents of a proposed super highway today held a major protest.

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No TTC! No TTC! No TTC!

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Stop not!

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Oh look at the technology's.

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Got to be curious.

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A majority of Texas counties have voted to resist the plan for a North American union and have vowed to block the construction of its infrastructure.

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Cool.

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Heck we already know in a law that was passed by a subservient United States congress where practically nobody in the entire congress stood up and said no.

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They've already passed a law saying all their driver's licenses are going to be chipped.

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Well I'm telling you right now, I'm not going to carry any driver's licenses by a chip in the big brother's and walk everywhere I go and see everything I do.

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No, no, hell no! No! No! No!

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And I don't mean to generalize, but if anybody at a rally has a cowboy hat on, I assume they are the bad guy.

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They get it.

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I cannot believe you would ever trust anybody with a cowboy hat trying to say something like they weren't wearing a cowboy hat.

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I would argue also this guy is yelling about a completely different issue than Alex has been talking about for a while.

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Oh do we computer chips in his fucking... Also why are you... What is this happening?

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I refuse to have a fucking ID that has a chip in it, but I am fine with an ID that has a barcode on it.

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Essentially it's a faster version of what you already have.

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I'm fine with one that I can swipe and has a barcode on it, but I really refuse the chip in my ID.

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It's all just Mark of the Beast.

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But having a picture on your ID is kind of the... It's just another identifier.

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I bet they're principally against that too, but they seem to go along with it.

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Like how do you feel about fingerprints?

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Hate them. Burned them off.

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Well that's a smart idea.

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And that's why acid rain is good for you.

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No acid rain is going to get on me. I got a cowboy hat.

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...our beautiful Texas and we are not going to let a bunch of crooks and robber barons take our beautiful Texas away from us.

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That does not want to be on video.

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I don't want to be near this video.

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Hell no! Hell no! No!

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He looks awfully well dressed for somebody who is afraid of computer chips in his ID.

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...state inspection stickers and toll tags are already being used to track the population.

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No!

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The system is also meant to control growth and steer development...

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Can I just confirm real quick?

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We started on the international five Jew bankers that were running the world.

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Nathan Rothschild.

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And now we took a huge detour into there's this road I don't like.

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Well I think Alex is trying to use this as an example of like this is a grassroots on the ground means of control, but it's not...

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He's not doing a good job.

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The argument's not being made really.

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No!

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It doesn't really make sense.

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I still don't understand if the argument...

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I get the anger though that's behind it in terms of like you're going to take away some of my land.

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Right, but if you were going to make a different documentary this would be great for it.

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As long as that documentary was about this and was never released and no one should see it.

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This is the blueprint for global enslavement.

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Roads?

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Roads.

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Roads.

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We already have those, right?

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Smart growth which is nothing more than an effort to bring control into the cities.

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You have the rewilding of America and the wild lands project, the conventional and biological diversity which is to control our rural population.

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Toll roads on interstate highways nationwide are walling off exit ramps to small towns and rural communities.

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That's not right.

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And are creating ghost towns by design.

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This trend is accelerating under the NAFTA highway system and is meant to rewild more than half the country.

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All of these things are designed to bring more and more control to bureaucracies rather than to the independent individual, the sovereign individual of this nation.

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What brought me into this whole discussion was the fact that while I was doing this multimillion dollar research effort in the 1980's and early 1990's,

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I became aware of an agenda basically to lock up one half of the United States in the wilderness corridors and reserves.

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It was called the wild lands project but it was also a key cornerstone of the United Nations Convention on Biological Diversity.

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It was during that study in which I began to realize that this was not an effort to protect the environment but an effort to control you and I.

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They were dividing the United States up into little compartments in which they would rip out roads.

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So this map that Alex is flashing up here right now.

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Yes, the Verizon coverage map.

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It's actually really important because they're talking about the wild lands project.

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Privately owned land.

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Which is now the wild lands network.

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State owned land.

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Federally owned land.

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Yeah.

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Wild land.

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Wild land.

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So one of the things that's important here is all of the claims that are being made by Michael Kaufman and Alex in this section lack citations.

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There's like four straight things or insert here.

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They got nothing on all of this stuff.

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And the maps that Alex is using.

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I still have a hard time believing that in the bibliography that he released.

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He released.

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Many if not all of the most explosive claims that they've made are literally said to be unsubstantiated and insert citation here.

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And all of the quotes are manufactured basically and lack citations because they're not real.

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Also these maps here, Alex conveniently forgets to mention that they were created by Michael Kaufman.

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He made these maps based on his interpretation of the U.N. biodiversity assessment.

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The designations of land are not in the U.N.'s, they're Michael Kaufman's.

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This is pure out and out fear mongering.

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The map isn't even depicting a real plan according to Kaufman but what quote could have been if he had not been there to fight the U.N.

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Quote these maps show how 50 percent of America might have been used, might have been set aside in wilderness reserves and buffer zones if the biodiversity treaty had been ratified.

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He made the map and he's interpreting it in a manner that only inflates his own importance.

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Okay.

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So this is all just bullshit.

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All right.

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So if I understand correctly, he was doing his job.

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And maybe, you know what, maybe he caught it out.

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Maybe there was a multi-million dollar research project.

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Maybe he caught it out.

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In the language they had written something and he was like, they could use this to do that while he was working there.

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So he was like, I won't let them do this.

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And then they didn't.

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He saved us.

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Right.

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That's basically the trajectory of this.

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So then why are we doing this?

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He always does that all the time.

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Why are we doing this then?

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Because he wants to warn you that they still want to do it.

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So I've looked at-

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Wait!

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So then they would have done it if it weren't for you.

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So they're still-

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Pesky Michael Kaufman.

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So is he trying to inspire more Michael Kaufman's?

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I guess.

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I've looked into the wild lands project and the wild lands network and all that stuff and I can't find anything that really backs up at all the claims that they're making.

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What about the World Wildlife Foundation?

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Well, that's evil.

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It was created by Julian Huxley.

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We'll get to that later.

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Wait, what?

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I don't know.

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But the issue is that I can't find any non-crazy source talking about this stuff.

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Like weirdo blogs and stuff like that.

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Because it's so crazy even the regular mainstream outlets are like, we're going to punt on this one.

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You guys have your fun.

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Michael Kaufman did whatever.

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I don't care.

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And in that spirit, I'm going to punt too.

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I don't think this is real.

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I don't trust the word of crazy people.

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Stupid blogs.

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Which is they rip out whole communities and put them back in the wilderness.

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The federal highway system was designed by Pentagon war planners in the 1950s to serve as a rapid deployment conduit to move ground forces.

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Otherwise known as a good highway.

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This also isn't true.

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The highway system wasn't created specifically to deploy troops or anything like that.

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Oh, would there perhaps be other economic reasons behind it, Dan?

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No, it was because of a burgeoning suburb bloom that was happening after the baby boom in the 50s.

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Yeah, and white flight.

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And white flight, absolutely.

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And the desire to destroy unsavory parts of town, which they were able to do by building highways through them.

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In 1955, the Department of Commerce put out a document often referred to as the yellow book.

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And if you look at the document, you'll see very clearly that the plans for highways...

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That's where I found my dentist.

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The plans of the highways are set to create roads that would connect cities to specific suburbs.

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Joseph Demento, another fun name, a law professor who co-wrote the book Changing Lanes...

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Was he a doctor?

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He was.

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So his name was Dr. Demento?

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Yeah.

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Alright! Yeah! We got to Dr. Demento now!

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He wrote the book Changing Lanes, Visions and Histories of Urban Freeways.

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And I quote,

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In the case of a natural disaster, or like a nuclear event.

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This was the consideration, but not the reason they were made.

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Every president has been super into roads.

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Going back to George Washington.

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Kind of important.

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To quote George Washington,

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They seem obvious.

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Also in 1919, then Lieutenant Colonel Eisenhower participated in a cross-country tour to see if the vehicles that were used in the First World War could make it across the country.

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How'd they do?

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It was a study, but also a military recruitment opportunity where they went town to town and were like, hey, join up.

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Nice.

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What they learned was that the roads sucked, they destroyed cars, and that most bridges couldn't support the weight of most cars.

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That's not good.

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And so from 1919 on, that stuck in his head is a very serious priority.

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So when Eisenhower was elected president in the 1950s, he ended up being like, we got to finally get around to doing this.

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I deemed a priority 30 years ago.

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Right.

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So back to Dr. Demento.

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Yeah, yeah!

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Quote,

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He had to have known he was Dr. Demento, right?

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Oh yeah, absolutely no.

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Okay.

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The unmistakable part of the equation, as it relates to the highways, was a federally supported program of urban renewal in which lower-income urban communities, mostly African-American, were targeted for removal.

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The idea was, quote, let's get rid of the blight, says Demento.

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I don't like saying blight.

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Nope, but we're quoting a Dr. Demento.

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That makes everything else sound very supervillainy.

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Yeah, and quote,

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So this was at the same time that they would also have instituted the policy known as redlining, which kept the people who were displaced from living anywhere where they would be.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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Now, are you saying, Dan, now, now, let me, let me go.

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Let me go somewhere no one else has gone before, Dan.

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Okay.

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Are you saying that not only is this country institutionally racist, but its infrastructure itself is racist?

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A lot of the motivation for the creation of a lot of this stuff was, yeah.

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There you go.

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And granted, Alex isn't totally wrong in the idea of troop deployment, Aurora factor.

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Every time you drive out to fucking Aurora, thank God for racism, you pieces of shit.

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More or less.

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That's what I think every time I go to the shrine.

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Yep.

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I haven't been there in a while.

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The unconstitutional Northern Command is now using the highway system as a force projection matrix to dominate populations across the United States.

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Just in a federally funded emergency command centers, county and city governments are being quietly federalized nationwide.

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Quietly.

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Quietly.

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Billions of dollars per city is being spent.

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We're federalizing.

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We're federalizing.

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Pass it on.

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Every town in Hamlet, no matter how small or remote, is surveilled.

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License plate reading software tracks American's movements wherever they go.

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New systems are being deployed that scan your face, read your lips and analyze your walk.

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God damn it.

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Under the treasonous Military Commissions Act, American citizens can be secretly arrested, stripped of citizenship, flown to offshore torture camps and secretly executed.

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Yeah, not good.

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I know I'm on your team.

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Stop making me on your team in the middle of you being wrong about everything.

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You can be right about a couple of things along the way.

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I don't like that.

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I mean, yes, this is an issue.

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Why aren't we, why can't we work together on this?

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Why does it have to be centered around a fucking...

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Well, because he's only...

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The Bilderbergs are building a road in my town.

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Well, that's why.

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It's because he's only right about these things in service of the things that are bigger than he's wrong about.

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As evidenced by this.

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NATO II of the Patriot Act.

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All misdemeanors are considered terrorism.

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That's bullshit.

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I know.

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He says...

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I agree, Alex.

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No, he's lying.

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I so agree.

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He's lying.

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No, no, about...

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No, no, no.

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Not about all misdemeanor acts.

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Yeah.

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No, no, no.

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That's complete nonsense.

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Yeah, of course.

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All the Section 802 does is it just amends some of the definitions of what constitutes domestic terrorism.

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It has nothing to do with misdemeanors or anything like that.

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For example, it just adds the language mass destruction into the definition of crimes that were domestic terrorism.

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Previously, the section said assassination or kidnapping.

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Now it says assassination, kidnapping, or mass destruction.

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Now, why would notorious white supremacist Alex Jones not want domestic terrorism to include mass destruction, Dan?

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I don't know.

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Probably, I don't know, something that happened in Oklahoma City.

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Ooh.

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Could be.

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Federal police squads called viper teams randomly force Americans to line up and show their papers.

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Also, in case you were wondering, typo.

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Yeah.

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Suh-suh-picious.

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But also...

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Not suspicious, suh-suh-picious.

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Alex is incredibly in support of what's being done by ICE right now in 2018 in terms of show your papers.

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Which is very different.

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Very different from this.

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Very different.

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Right.

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He's very concerned about viper teams back then.

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I don't even mention that. It's completely different. It's being done to non-white people, so it's fine.

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It's bullshit.

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But also, the article that he's citing makes no mention of people being demanding that they show their papers.

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He cites like three articles. None of them are relevant to that.

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The only article that's kind of relevant is one about how New York subway and train riders are being randomly checked, having their bags checked.

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And, oh, hey, the reason for that is it was the same week as the London transit bombs in 2005.

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I'm not thrilled with random bag checks, but I fucking get it that week. I understand where that comes from.

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It's not like it's today. People are having their bags randomly checked for no reason.

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They are. They're just not white people.

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Well, yeah.

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Alex doesn't care about that.

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That's outside of the scope of this documentary.

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At a certain point, everything that Alex is describing as what could be done by the globalists is stuff that he is describing white people are doing to everybody else right now.

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Or the team he's on.

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And the reason that he's...

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Like, what this documentary is...

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He has no principles.

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What this documentary is, is imagine you, a regular white person, is treated like the way white people treat other people.

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That'd be terrible.

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That'd be a nightmare. That's the trick for global enslavement. We would be treated the way we treat other people.

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So the blueprint, actually, for global enslavement is what we've got.

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Is what white people do. Yeah, exactly.

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Interesting.

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We've nailed it.

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Interesting take.

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I think he's just read a history of white people and been like, okay, well, if we're gonna reverse...

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He just got the wrong lesson.

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Yeah, if we're gonna reverse engineer this.

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Yeah.

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From the sidewalks of Miami...

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This documentary should just be called White People Could Do It To You Too, Are You Shitting Me?

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Citizens are being searched by heavily armed...

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Would whites turn on whites?

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paramilitary police.

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I don't even know where the Netherlands is, Queen Beatrix.

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Come on, guys. Come in. Come in.

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I want to be clear about this really quick.

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I have no idea what this video is of. Alex gives no context of it.

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Well, it's from 2006, so I assume it's right after 9-11.

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Yeah, probably.

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Yo, can you get that camera off of us, sir?

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Sir, can you get the United States first?

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Alright, but you can get that camera...

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I'm saying get the camera out of my face.

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We have no idea what happened right before this.

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So what does that mean?

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I'm saying get that camera out of my face.

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That's what I'm saying.

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It's a free country.

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On this dude's team.

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It's a free country.

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I hate being on the military's team, but if you're talking shit to Alex Jones...

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It goes a long way.

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Yeah.

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Hey, move to Russia.

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Okay?

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Yo, you can have cameras on the streets.

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I said get it out of my face.

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Your guy starts cussing at us out of the woods.

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I said get it out of my face.

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That's what I'm saying.

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It wasn't ever in your face.

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Oh, man.

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This would be so much a better movie if that guy just murdered Alex right there.

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I legitimately have no idea what's going on.

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The reality could be that these people in fatigue just went to go see a movie together or something like that.

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There could be a completely benign reason that they're on the streets.

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Did he give any lead up to this footage?

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Nope.

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Any like, this is, we're at this place, there's a thing, there's a demonstration, there's...

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Oh, just about how you can't videotape people on the street anymore.

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That fascism is cracking down the authoritarian state.

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I think it's like this, if I'm reading this situation correctly, based on what has been said so far,

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this dude is part of some sort of military situation.

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He's wearing full fatigues, right?

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So it's, he's on the job.

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And then Alex fucking Jones shows up and starts putting a camera in his face and asks him questions.

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He might not be on the job, though.

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And he is understandably pissed off about it.

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He might not be on the job, though.

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Fine, he's still dressed like it.

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Yeah, I know, but kids would come to school in their fatigues or in like ROTC and stuff like that.

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That's fine, but if you're in your fatigues and somebody, and then Alex, look, if I was wearing...

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Could be Veterans Day or Memorial Day.

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If I was wearing a suit and Alex Jones came to work and he was like,

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and he was like, ah, I've got a camera in your face.

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I'd be like, get that fucking camera out of my face.

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You can take the work out of the equation.

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Alex Jones comes up to me and I tell him to go.

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Oh, get the fuck out of my face, Alex.

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And then he, but he gets to go to his sergeant and the sergeant's like,

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let's fucking make him go away.

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Yeah, or they just get in the car and leave like they were going to anyway.

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Yeah.

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Long before 9-11.

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Again, I have no idea what that depicted.

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By the way, this is 2006.

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It bars the military as policing the American people.

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Coast to coast, for more than two decades, teams of troops would just appear out of nowhere

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and randomly stop cars and search pedestrians.

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Ooh, the Arkansas DOT is out.

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Again, I am...

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The Arkansas DOT is out on the streets.

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Principally, I am against what Alex is against here.

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I do, you know, of course the military should not be operating in the states.

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It's kind of a big deal.

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But I don't agree with his conclusions.

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What with the whole crossing of the Rubicon and the like.

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The acclamation accelerated with regular armies searching bags at the Super Bowl

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and the Kentucky Derby, as well as other high-profile events.

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Then President Bush signed a Defense Authorization Act,

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which radically increased the funding of the already bloated shadow government.

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In the act, the executive branch formally announced that it was preparing for domestic insurrection

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and went on to preemptively strip the state government's...

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Oh my god, I hate him too!

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Stop putting W up there!

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He's trying to soften you up.

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I want to fucking... I'm so furious.

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Stop showing his goddamn face!

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Then on May 9th, 2007, President Bush unlawfully granted himself new powers.

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And the presidency officially became a fiat dictatorship.

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In the past, continuity of government has been shared by the legislative, judicial, and executive branches of government.

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Now, all power resides with the president.

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That was a slick fucking graphic. Did you see that shit?

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That was slick as shit.

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Also, Alex thinks that Donald Trump is the only person who can save us.

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He's thrilled that he has all this power as an executive.

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Because he thinks that the judiciary and the Congress is full of globalist operatives.

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So you need almost a fascist dictator,

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much like the people who were trying to convince Medley Butler to march against FDR.

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The same sort of fucking...

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Did you just see all this? Did you see all this?

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The light just drives me crazy?

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And, of course, Bush was a disaster.

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A lot of that shit is terrible.

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But here's the one through line of,

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oh, okay, I am washing myself of bias in this situation, right?

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As he says that, George Bush enacts these executive powers,

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and I'm like, fuck yeah he did, and fuck yeah that's wrong.

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And then I think, and Obama expanded those powers and used them exactly as negatively,

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if not worse, so fuck that. Fuck him. That shouldn't be allowed.

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And then Trump has got these powers and thank God he's too stupid to figure out how to use them properly.

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Because all of these guys are wrong.

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He's too busy on petty squabbles here in the States.

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Yeah, I genuinely mean this.

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The more this presidency goes on, the more grateful I am that Trump won and none of the other idiots.

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Because if anybody...

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Really can't allow you to say that on the show.

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I mean this, because if anybody with the level of intelligence necessary,

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like if evil Obama were president right now, we would be fucked. Are you kidding me?

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We'd be in a caliphate. I know Larry Nichols.

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No, if somebody was smart enough to utilize...

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Larry Nichols has told me about this.

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Because they have destroyed any chance of a large group of people ever agreeing with their enemy, right?

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Yeah, probably.

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We're dealing with people who say things like, no matter what Obama says, it's wrong. I know it's wrong.

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That kind of a thing.

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If you had somebody who was capable of combining that level of xenophobic lunacy

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that Trump had that he needed to get elected with ruthless capability,

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dude, they could destroy America tomorrow.

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But I don't think any of the candidates had that combination.

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Of course not.

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Just get the xenophobic lunacy and the abusiveness.

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Which is better than having George W. and Cheney in, where W. is dumb enough and silly enough to get elected,

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and Cheney is evil enough to enact all of his plans.

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We're stuck with chaotic evil.

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George W. is still a million times worse as a president than Trump is, and I hate saying that, but that's true.

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He's got three more years.

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Time will tell.

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He's got a shot.

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Time will tell.

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Three dubs didn't start Iraq until 2003.

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Well, I mean, he was bogged down by a 9-11 happening.

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Well, he was the reason 9-11 happened.

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Let's get back to this.

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For the smallest of reasons, including, in the document's own text, any incident in the world,

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regardless of location, that affects population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions,

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and trigger the president's will.

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Any incident.

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Total martial law.

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Total martial law.

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It is important to add that the president is merely a puppet of the global crime syndicate,

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and may not use the new powers, but simply pass them on for use by future puppet administrations.

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I would have led with that.

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Except for Trump.

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Oh, hey, Chairman Mao, how you doing?

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We're transitioning from roads.

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In 1968, Chairman Mao built a road in Texas.

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He had a lot of abusive roads.

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This is disgusting.

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I'm ashamed that we're posting this.

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Is this really happening right now?

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Yeah, I forgot that this was in here.

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I'm sorry.

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Holy shit.

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I should have given a warning.

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All of a sudden now we're seeing fucking faces of death?

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Christ.

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Yeah.

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That's a movie, right?

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Subtitles would help.

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Yes, there have been dictators.

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You must teach people to love their leader.

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This is the only most important.

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Yup.

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Almost unconditionally.

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Why don't we learn from the mistakes of our ancestors?

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To the point where nothing he says or does matters.

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Why does humankind find itself bound in a cycle of bloodshed and enslavement?

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Predatory elites have always rationalized their oppression by claiming that they are superior,

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and have divine right to rule,

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when all they really are is a gaggle of ruthless psychopaths,

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parasitically feeding on the host population,

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until their cancerous movement causes the collapse of the host.

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There's not much to debunk here because he's just saying shit.

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There have been thousands of tyrannical governments in history,

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and less than ten that can truly be all free.

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I don't know if he's putting up-

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Hold on.

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Rock lick.

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Oh yeah, good point.

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Rock lick.

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Over 150 million people were murdered at the hands of the state.

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This is where Alex gets super anti-government.

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In Russia, the Red Terror consumed the lives of more than 60 million men, women, and children.

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Hitler's war killed 22 million.

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Great.

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During Mao Zedong's reign alone, more than 60 million peasant farmers were killed.

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True.

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And the list goes on.

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You only gave two examples.

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300,000 innocent civilians killed in Guatemala.

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More than 2 million souls brutally murdered by the government of Cambodia.

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1,500,000 killed in Turkey.

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Turkish government has not acknowledged that.

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300,000 in Uganda.

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They're wrong.

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300,000 plus hacked to death with machetes in Rwanda.

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Sadly, there are too many examples of innocent families being exterminated by their governments

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on an industrial scale to name them all.

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It's all the governments.

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And that's why you should elect a racist, xenophobic monster to control the largest

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military the government and the earth has ever seen.

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And the only point that I want to make about this is Alex is trying to shock people with

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these numbers.

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And they're terrible.

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They're horrible things.

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But he's conflating a lot of things because some of those were intentional genocides.

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Some of them were sectarian ethnic violence that also ended up being genocides.

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And then some of them were droughts that were exacerbated by mismanagement of government.

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The numbers that you have for Mao, that's not all brutal murders of people.

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A lot of that had to do with just like they didn't know how they were running that government.

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No, they had no fucking clue.

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They completely fucked up their management.

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No, Mao is a monster.

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But his main issue was he killed all of the people who could have helped him run a government.

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Right, right.

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Those numbers are super inflated by virtue of cyclical patterns of famine that he made

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worse.

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That everybody already knew about.

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And there were people who knew what to do in those situations.

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And he was like, everybody who knows anything is stupid.

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It's almost like anti-intellectualism is not a good foundation for government.

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No, but all that idea of like these people were murdered by the government is a little

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dubious, is all I'm saying.

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And he's conflating a lot of things.

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Anyway.

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Fact is the number one cause of unnatural death.

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If you take the 150 million people killed by power mad government in the last century

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and divided by 100,000, the number of souls lost would fill the biggest sports stadium.

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Hacked with 100,000 screaming fans 1,500 times over.

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That's 1,500 sports stadiums crammed with 100,000 people each.

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All exterminated.

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For those who think it can't happen here or won't happen to them, you have been warned.

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The carnage witnessed in the last hundred years was only the preparatory phase of the

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new world order's master plan.

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We've reached the point that documentary Chinese system of evil is not content with racking

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up the highest death toll in history.

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We'll get to greener pastures here in a bit.

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The mass murder and enslavement is still going on today and enjoys the full support and sanction

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of the new world order.

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He's just a certain man.

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And the United States government.

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It's tough cause I can't even like.

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Communist China serves as a globalist laboratory.

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Why would you put subtitles up?

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I don't know.

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I'll tell you why you wouldn't put subtitles up.

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One, you don't want people to know what was actually being said because if you do, you

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would probably find out it sounds a lot like what Alex says later on.

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Also, you just said that China is the globalist's testing ground for ideas of oppression.

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There's no citation for this on the bibliography.

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Why would?

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How?

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Who?

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What citation could you possibly have?

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Just like somebody says.

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David Rockefeller admitting we try things out in China.

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David Rockefeller.

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The globalists try out different ways to oppress people in China.

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Anything.

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Anything.

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When you're making claims like that, you have to support them.

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What you're saying is.

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It's embarrassing if you don't.

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Cause what he's saying is people are oppressed in China in different ways.

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Right.

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That's all he's saying.

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But he's also trying to link that to something else.

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His bigger narrative.

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Exactly.

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But you can't just say like, Hey, look at all the ways that people are being impressed

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in China don't get oppressed like that.

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You have to say that it's some shadowy organization who is trying out all of these different ways.

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Because if you just say.

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We're trying to fine tune it so they can use it on you.

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Yeah.

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Look.

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You, the white listener.

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This is what happens whenever you don't fucking have any concept of what it is that oppression

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really is.

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Because that's that's what he's trying to describe there.

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Look at all the ways that the government in China has oppressed its people.

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It must be shadowy globalists doing that to us.

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It can't be the same.

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It can't be that people who are given the opportunity will fucking horrifyingly treat

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other people as if it doesn't matter.

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Yeah.

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Because if you just say that.

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If you just reveal that it's something that's within the heart of every single human being

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on the planet.

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Nobody's going to buy your goddamn pills.

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Nope.

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They're going to start fucking doing shit.

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Should be fair he wasn't selling pills at this point.

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OK.

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Fair enough.

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We'll see what happens in these documentaries.

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Then I retract my entire argument.

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Dan.

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Continue.

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A proving ground where one point four billion people live out their lives as guinea pigs

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who serve as test subjects in the US and British forces worked closely with Mao Zedong during

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World War Two.

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And at the end of the war, they secretly backed Mao and driving out Chiang Kai-Shek and the

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Nationalist.

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The OSS and then the CIA believe that Mao would have a stabilizing effect.

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Bill Clinton's mentor and Georgetown University political science professor Carol Quigley

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explained in his book, Tragedy and Hope, how the Anglo-American round table groups backed

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every brand of authoritarianism from communism to fascism to ensure that a centralized government

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dominates the population and the economy is blank.

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So the only citation for this is an Amazon link to buy Carol Quigley's book Tragedy and

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Hope.

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If I recall correctly from my research paper, totally fine.

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It's twelve hundred pages long.

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There's no fucking way someone's going to watch this documentary.

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I got to confirm this.

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I'm going to read 1,200 pages.

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I cited the Amazon link to buy this book.

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Yeah, you should know.

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Now it's on you.

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Yeah, good luck.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So this citation is a WorldNet daily op-ed, which is not like it is not professionally

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written.

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It has a tone of real brashness, real op-ed style.

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And it's clear that they're just cherry picking quotes because they're quoting like three

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words at a time, then half a sentence.

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Right.

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And like, I don't know what to make of that.

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I can't get the context of this stuff.

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And look, I read a bunch of books in preparation for this, but I'm not going to buy Carol Quigley's

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book and read twelve hundred more pages.

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I apologize.

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Maybe I'll do that eventually.

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No, but I think I think right now every one of our listeners is thinking this was great.

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But now that I know Dan didn't read that fucking book, citations are important.

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You turn it off.

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You need to do better than policy wonks.

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I love you so much, but you're going to have to turn this on.

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Dan failed you.

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Jordan, we only have like forty five minutes left.

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We only have four thousand hours.

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We can do this.

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Sorry, I'm losing it.

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We got to get our second wave.

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They seek to create monopolies and dominate populations through the barrel of a gun.

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That's an assertion.

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In their writings, the leadership of the New World Order has continuously heaped praise

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on the corrupt communist Chinese model.

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Ooh, back to the microfiche.

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Very exciting.

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In August of 1973, in an article written by David Rockefeller for The New York Times,

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Rockefeller openly lauds and endorses Mao Zedong's actions while celebrating their command

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and control system.

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So this is from this op-ed in The New York Times, David Rockefeller wrote, called From

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a China Traveler.

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It's a little bit complicated in terms of history.

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For context, Nixon had just gone to China in 1972, a year prior from this article's

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writing.

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Right.

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Previous to this, the relations between China and the United States have been very frosty.

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The United States did not recognize the communist government in China, but did retain a

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relations with the anti-communist government in Taiwan, which largely made the U.S. one

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of China's major enemies in the world.

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After 1776, how long has that been going on for?

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After 1776, 1.0.

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It took 68 years for China to accept formal diplomatic relationships with the United States

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in 1844 with the signing of the Treaty of Wong Hai.

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This treaty was only really brought up because of the fears that Britain would dominate the

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East in trade, and we wanted a little bit of that taste.

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Also it had to do with the pesky opium wars that were going on, which were the first instance

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of actual armed engagement between those countries.

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Which is a weird, it's a weird time for America to be like, oh, man, we might not get in there.

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The British are going to dominate it at the same time the Chinese are like, these British

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people are fucking murdering us.

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Yeah.

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We need to get rid of them.

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Right.

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Please.

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Right.

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Please go away.

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It's just terrible.

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It's just terrible.

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Push, push thing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So things.

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Hey, you hate those British people.

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They're evil.

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They're, they're the ones who've been giving you opium.

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Yeah.

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We're not British anymore.

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We're the same guys.

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You can trust us, but we're not British anymore.

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After that, you can trust us.

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After that, things didn't get better.

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And in 1882, Chester Arthur, then president, Chester A. Arthur, he signed the Chinese Exclusion

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Act, which prohibited all immigration of Chinese laborers.

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The Geary Act made the order permanent in 1902, and this was only repealed by the Magnuson

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Act in 1943.

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A lot of the anti-immigrant sentiment had to do with the gold rush.

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The immigrants were tolerated when gold was plentiful and to be found, but once it started

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to dry up, the locals started turning on the Chinese.

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The foreign...

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Oh, the story of America.

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The foreign miners tax was passed to discourage Chinese from being involved in that industry.

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So they largely...

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Also to discourage foreign children from existing.

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Certainly.

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So they moved to urban centers and took up work in low-wage labor positions, which were

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the only things that were available to them.

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The Exclusion Act specifically made it so skilled and unskilled laborers and Chinese

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people engaged in mining could not come to the United States, and if they did, they'd

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be put in jail or deported.

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This single act completely isolated the already existing Chinese population here in America.

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It's one of those things where it's just like...

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It's just like with...

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This gets worse.

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Yeah.

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Before you go any further.

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It's just like with the opposition to slavery at the same time period.

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It's like, we can't have these people slaves.

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They're working for free.

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It's bad to enslave people.

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It's that they're taking our jobs away.

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That's such a fucking...

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Fuck you, America.

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And how the exact same people will have different takes on it based on how I'm comfortable,

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now I'm uncomfortable.

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Exactly.

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Well, I'll tell you what I know the problem is.

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It definitely has nothing to do with the system that I've allowed myself to be worked under

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for this entire time.

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No, it's probably the other guy.

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Yeah.

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The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 led to a period known as the driving out period where

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angry whites tried to drive out existing Chinese populations from places around them.

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Or otherwise known as American history.

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The Rock Springs Massacre of 1885 occurred when white miners in Sweetwater County, Wyoming

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got mad about job competition and resorted to shooting, stabbing, and assaulting Chinese workers.

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But white terrorism is an issue.

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Many tried to flee, only to end up being burned alive in their homes and starved to death

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in hiding.

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But white terrorism isn't an issue.

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At the end of this, at least 28 people were dead and none of the aggressors were arrested.

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This was followed up by the Snake River Massacre in 1887 where 34 Chinese miners were murdered.

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Chinatown in San Francisco would go on to be scapegoated for an outbreak of the Bubonic

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Plague in 1898, most likely caused by a French merchant ship that had arrived with a guy

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on it who had died of the plague.

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As time wore on, the relations never really got to a place you might call good between

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the United States and China.

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Odd.

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Toward the end of the 1800s, Western business interests tried to get into the Chinese market

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but were stalled by the Boxer Rebellion in 1899 where nationalist Chinese forces revolted

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against foreign influence in trade, politics, religion, and technology.

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How dare they do what we did?

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This rebellion.

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How could you do that?

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What are you talking?

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No.

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How dare you ruin American relations with the United States people when all we did was

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the same thing you did?

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This rebellion was resisted.

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You're supposed to be better than us.

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We're white.

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We don't know any better.

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The Boxer Rebellion was quelled by an alliance of mainly European powers and the United States.

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How dare these people do the thing on their own land?

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In 1911, the United States recognized the Republic of China in Chiang Kai-Shek as the

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legitimate government in China.

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We supplied them with a ton of aid during the Second Sino-Japanese War.

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Oh yeah.

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No, you don't want to be a part of that.

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Yeah.

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Getting around our isolationist stance by never saying that war was declared.

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Give them aid.

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Do not get in the middle of that.

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We begin to like China only in so much as we hated Japan and they were fighting Japan

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so we softened on them a little bit.

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As World War II broke out, Chiang Kai-Shek was very helpful in making sure that China

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did not become a member of the Axis Powers.

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After the war, in 1945, civil war broke out in China between the Nationalist Republic

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of China and the Communist People's Republic of China.

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The United States supported the Nationalists but deemed direct intervention to stop the

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Communists as not being worth the cost it would entail.

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Which is a strange... That whole period of history is fucking... It's fascinating because

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it's immediately following the end of World War II.

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It's immediately after VE Day and VJ Day.

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Those are the same.

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They're not the same day.

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The point is that the way that we treated Russia and China immediately after the end

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of World War II has dominated the entirety of our foreign policy with them since then.

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Totally.

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Famously, Eisenhower and Churchill were both like, fucking, let's go to town.

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Let's finish Russia off while we got the chance.

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We need to.

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They're weak right now.

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Let's take them down.

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In the same way, China had just been decimated by the Japanese occupation, which was fucking

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brutal.

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The extent to which Japanese occupation was brutal is something that is not really quite

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as discussed in World War II literature as maybe it should be.

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When you think about why we got North Korea and South Korea, then we start talking about

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the Japanese occupation as well, and the way that we treated the Koreans immediately following

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World War II, and how we didn't do any goddamn shit there either.

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Then the other question, of course, is what exactly are we supposed to do?

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Are we the only people who are supposed to do anything in these times?

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Then we abandoned our... There's a whole long mess of things.

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It was those small decisions made immediately at the end of World War II that have really

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fucking set the course for both Russian and Chinese relations since then.

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That's true, but then you've got to consider that at that point you already had a deep

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history since the literal beginning of our country of being real shitheads to the Chinese.

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Well, we've been real shitheads to everybody.

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After World War II, like you're saying, we decided it wasn't worth the effort to try

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and help the nationalists fight the communists.

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As Secretary of State George Marshall told Congress, the cost of an all-out effort to

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see communist forces resisted and destroyed in China would clearly be all out of proportion

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to the result to be obtained.

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In essence, we abandoned our ally who helped us avoid further complication in World War

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II and stood back as Mao and the communists took over the country in 1949.

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It would take the U.S. another 30 years to recognize that government, which would be

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six years after Rockefeller wrote his very short op-ed.

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Between 1949 and 1971, U.S.-China relationships were entirely hostile.

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They sided against us in the Cold War and Mao's Cultural Revolution almost completely

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isolated China from the rest of the world for many years, even from communist countries

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such as the Soviet Union.

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Nixon went to China after all... Let's not forget that China was North Korea before North

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Korea.

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Yeah.

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Nixon went to China after what is known as the Ping-Pong diplomacy, U.S. and Chinese

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Ping-Pong players getting along- Which sounds really racist until you realize

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they're referring directly to Ping-Pong itself, not-

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Yeah, a couple of Ping-Pong players got along and we all were like, hey, maybe we can all

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get along.

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It seems very suspiciously like the Ching-Chong-Bing-Bong alliance, but no, it's a... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, so they ended up... It created an opportunity where an American Ping-Pong player got to

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visit China and it opened up this possibility of other people visiting, who led to the opening

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of the U.S. liaison office in Beijing and the beginning of normalization of relations.

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At the point that Rockefeller wrote his tiny op-ed article, the world had almost no access

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to China for decades.

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Some of the assessments that he made as a quote China traveler were probably a little

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naive or generous, also taking into account that he wanted to try and get into the Chinese

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market now that it was open.

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Reading that op-ed in that context in my ears, it falls a long way short of open support

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for Mao and his authoritarian rule.

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A little bit.

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The criticism made of Rockefeller's statement is valid and it's terrible optics to minimize

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the brutal authoritarianism of Mao.

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That said, there's an argument to be made for the positive statistics during Mao's rule.

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Infant mortality rates dropped from 227 per thousand in 1949 to 53 per thousand in 1983.

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Adult mortality rates increased.

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Not necessarily.

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China had a life expectancy of 35 years in 1949, which went up to 66 years by 1976.

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These stats are not enough to justify his policies, but it would be easy to see those

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sorts of things as being persuasive signs to someone who came in and just got the lay

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of the land as a visiting tourist.

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What I'm saying is that David Rockefeller, I think he fucked up in making this op-ed.

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It's a little hasty, possibly, but it's not an all-out sign of globalists being in favor

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of Mao's authoritarian rule.

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It needs to be taken in the proper context that it existed in, which was decades and

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decades of terrible China relations only being opened up after a very bizarre ping-pong game.

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Terrible relations largely due to our own actions.

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Not like, oh, why is China always being a dick to us?

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Why, they're such assholes.

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No, no, no.

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Very much not that case.

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If you went to a conversation with any Chinese person and Nixon at that time, every single

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grievance the Chinese person would have would be like, yeah, no.

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We totally did that.

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Good point.

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For sure.

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Good point.

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No, absolutely.

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What about that exclusion act?

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Oh, Europe.

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What about those massacres?

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Oh, no, no, no.

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We loved those, but now, now we're against them.

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Yeah, sorry about that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Whatever the price of the Chinese revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing

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more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community

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of purpose.

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The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important

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and successful in history.

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David Rockefeller, New York Times, August 10th, 1973.

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All right, did he really say that?

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Yeah, that is a real quote from the article, but it's also taken out of context and like

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then we're one for four, Dan, maybe five.

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At least he said those words.

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Communist China is the model planned society for the new world order.

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China has received more United Nations awards for its policies and form of governance than

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any other nation.

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I have no idea what that means.

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What wards?

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What awards?

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I have no idea what that means.

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I don't know who's giving who's giving out awards for.

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No idea.

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No, no idea.

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No idea.

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OK.

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In the eyes of globalist planners, authoritarian China is the future authoritarian.

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China adopted the dreaded one child policy from a consortium of eugenics organizations,

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which includes no, no, no red flag thrown up into the air.

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Big red flag.

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Throw it up into the air, Dan.

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So do you want me to go through this about China so you can keep on eating?

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Word for word.

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So China is a country of a very large population, but also one of limited resources in many

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ways.

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There's a terrible history of famines in the country, history between with eighteen hundred

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and twenty eight famines recorded between one hundred and eight B.C. in nineteen eleven

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A.D., including the northern Chinese famine of eighteen seventy six through nineteen eighteen

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seventy nine, in which nine to thirteen nine to thirteen million people died.

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The great Chinese famine of nineteen fifty eight through nineteen sixty two led to the

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deaths of about fifteen to thirty million people due to starvation.

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Famine in eighteen fifty through eighteen seventy three led to the deaths of over sixty

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million people.

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One in nineteen forty two to nineteen forty three killed two to three million.

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One from nineteen thirty six to nineteen thirty seven killed approximately five million.

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Famine has historically been a major problem in China because of the weather patterns and

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high incidence of droughts.

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However, all this has naturally been exacerbated at times by the warring states period and

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just general conflict getting in the way of distribution of food or just burning down

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fields.

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And more recently by Mao's government doing an absolutely shitty job of managing the resources

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that were available.

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Didn't do a great job.

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Throughout his reign, Mao was very wishy washy about whether people should have a lot of

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kids.

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Weird way to describe Mao.

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It could not really follow all of all of the ways to describe Mao.

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I wouldn't be like, OK.

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So let me tell you about this guy.

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Let me tell you about my boy, Mao.

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Super wishy washy about multiple children, but he was I mean, he's got other qualities,

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but the one that I need you to know, if you look at his history, you don't have like a

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clear stance.

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Well, yes, because there's no clear stance as he was rising to power.

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He was strongly in favor of larger populations, believing that more communists meant more

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power for him.

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Towards the end, he was more amenable to birth control ideas, even launching a family planning

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initiative in 1971 with the slogan, one child is too few, two are just fine and three is

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too many.

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The issue was that at the time, China was home to one quarter of the otherwise known

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as the Goldilocks Initiative.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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China at the time was home to a quarter of the world's population, with access to only

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seven percent of the world's usable land.

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Two thirds of their population was under 30.

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And the baby boomers are entering the stage of life where they would reproduce.

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This was all a complete disaster in the making for a country with a deep, deep history of

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famine.

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Planned Parenthood was not involved in the creation of the one child policy, but there

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is some concern that they may have not done enough to stop it or mitigate the crueler

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aspects of it.

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Planned Parenthood is part of an organization called the International Planned Parenthood

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Federation, whose members also include the China Family Planning Association.

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So there is a parent group that involves...

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Right.

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Right, right, right.

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There's a concern over the years whether or not the CFPA, the China Family Planning Association,

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has been complicit in the sterilizations and forced abortions that the Chinese government

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used to enforce with its reproductive rules.

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Right.

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Articles trying to claim Planned Parenthood is complicit consistently make weak arguments

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that require caveats like, without being able to read Chinese or hop on a plane to investigate,

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it's unclear what CFPA's cooperation with the organization entails.

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Well, then it's not clear.

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Yeah.

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There's a lot of, like, soft bullshit like that.

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That's immensely frustrating.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Because then, because your argument then is, anytime family planning of any sort comes

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about, it is Planned Parenthood, but I will only mention it whenever family planning does

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not go the way that I want it to go.

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That's the argument.

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That's the entire argument right there.

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Yeah.

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So, yes, Planned Parenthood has allowed so many women who otherwise would have been bogged

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down by children and yada, yada, yada, and all of this shit, sure, Planned Parenthood

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has given them an escape through that, whatever.

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But this one group of people in China who were maybe involved or maybe they weren't

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or maybe they couldn't have been or whatever, they had a thing and that did a thing, Planned

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Parenthood's fault.

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Totally.

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And I think a better argument that you could make is that given the lack of evidence of

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outright participation in the disgusting practices that China has definitely engaged in enforcing

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their one child policy, it's possible that the International Planned Parenthood Federation

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was interested in operating China as a way to offer self-directed birth control alternatives

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to the harsh oppressive ones offered by the state.

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The same goal can be reached by education or by force and the path of force has always

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had too many consequences to be worthwhile and possibly their efforts led to the end

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of the policy in 2015.

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Probably.

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At the same time.

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Well, that and the fact that because-

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You can blame them for not being effective enough, but they fucking tried, you know what

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I'm saying?

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Well, it is one of those you be careful what you wish for situations, especially with the

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China's one child policy.

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If your culture prizes male children far above anything else and it has a one child policy

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for a long, long time, turns out there's going to be one woman for every five males.

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It's not going to work.

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Did not go well.

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No, but at the same time-

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Turns out there's a law called unintended consequences and they did not see that one

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coming.

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Chaos theory, baby.

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Did not see that one coming.

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The factors that I brought up there and was discussing at the beginning of that in terms

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of the fucking disastrous famines, the situation they found themselves in and that baby boom.

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It's very understandable why those policies would be considered.

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What they did in response to them are unforgivable.

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Of course.

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All of that, but also Planned Parenthood wasn't involved and the only thing that any of the

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citations he offers or any weirdo dumbass website can prove is speculation.

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It's just nonsense where they want to tar Planned Parenthood as being collaborators

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as opposed to possibly they were there trying to make it like, we can do this better.

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There's a better way.

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Rather than you allowing your government to sterilize you, here's how condoms work.

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That's essentially the idea behind that.

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But irregardless, that is not a legitimate criticism to levy at Planned Parenthood.

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Just because even if it is part of your going to their country.

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If you're going to talk about fucking sovereignty or whatever it is like that, if you're Planned

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Parenthood, you have a stated goal of not-

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Doing whatever you can.

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Ultimately, what is the goal of Planned Parenthood?

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Giving women agency over themselves.

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Yeah, their health decisions.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Even if you're going to a place with a one child policy, that doesn't change your stated

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mission.

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No, it actually makes it more important that you operate there than less.

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Of course.

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It's actually like-

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If Planned Parenthood wasn't there trying to give agency to women there, I think I'd

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be more angry.

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Yeah.

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If you're like, nah, fuck it, we'll punt on this one.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Our principles are that we want to help women make their own decisions and have control

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of their healthcare.

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There's the place where it's worst.

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Fuck it.

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Leave it alone.

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Yeah.

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Not our deal.

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It's nonsense.

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Not our business.

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It's nonsense.

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And this isn't the only lie that he tells about the one child policy, if you believe

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that.

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How could that be possible?

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And the United Nations.

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Humans that have more than one child face heavy fines and imprisonment.

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This isn't always the practice of forced abortion in China, coupled with the cultural desire

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to have a male child has plunged China into a deepening crisis where there are 30 million

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more men than women.

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The Chinese police state ruthlessly crushes all forms of dissent.

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Underground churches, Falun Gong practitioners, striking factory workers are all sent to forced

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labor camps.

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Their blood and tissue types are cataloged in preparation for organ harvesting.

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God, change churches to mosques and you have America.

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The Chinese government then sells the prisoners organs to the highest bidder on the world

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market.

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Did not know that.

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You didn't know that?

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No, I didn't know that.

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They do some organ sales and stuff like that.

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Yeah.

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It's pretty fucked up.

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That's pretty fucked up.

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If a wealthy patient chooses to fly into China, the prisoner is killed and the organs are

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implanted.

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I'm not sure if the organs are being flown out of the country, a mobile execution van

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extracts the organs.

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Well, yeah, you want the whole package, right?

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Well, I just, I don't, I don't.

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Like you don't pay for the undercoating.

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I get that.

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I don't think it's as simple as he's describing.

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The social engineers of China aggressively euthanize the elderly and disabled.

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Yeah, but that's just good planning.

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China is merely following the globalist blueprint for the world.

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The same system of total dehumanization that leads to roads in Texas.

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So ironic population should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third

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world.

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Henry Kissinger, 1974.

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That can't be true.

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You don't think that's true?

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I don't think that's true.

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It was a fake quote.

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Of course.

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Is that depopulated?

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If you're Henry Kissinger, look again, I hate Henry Kissinger.

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I hope he dies.

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He's the worst, but there's no way that you would allow anyone to hear and then record

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you saying depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third

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world.

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That even for Kissinger, who may have said it in private, would never say it in public.

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Do you want to know where this comes from?

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Yes.

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This comes from an internet meme.

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Most likely before that.

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Written by Henry Kissinger.

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Most likely before that it was a message board meme attributing the following quote to Kissinger.

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Can't be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world because the United

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States economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially

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from less developed countries.

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This quote cannot be authenticated, however.

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If you just try to source the part of it, the quote, the US economy will require large

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and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries.

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You'll find that that portion of the quote is taken from the biodiversity assessment

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that we were talking about earlier.

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No!

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It's the same fucking place?

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And they just give it to different names whenever they feel like it?

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No, no, no.

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The second part of the quote that Alex isn't using, this part is the fake part of the quote.

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This part is completely made up.

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It's just that he's hacked off the real part of the end to make it much more difficult

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to Google.

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Weird.

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Yeah, he's trying to make it harder to find out that he's just fabricating quotes.

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So if I understand correctly, he's lying on another level of lying.

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Yeah, it's secondary shit.

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That's actually solid.

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That's a solid move on his.

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I respect that.

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The beginning of the quote, what's here in Alex Jones's documentary, does not appear

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in the text.

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And the following is the context of the second part of the text.

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Whatever may be done to guard against interruptions of supply and develop domestic alternatives,

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the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially

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from less developed countries.

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That fact gives the US enhanced interest in the political, economic, and social stability

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of the supplying countries.

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Whenever a lessening of population pressures through the reduced birth rates can increase

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the prospects for such stability, population policy becomes relevant to resource supplies

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and to the economic interests of the United States.

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So there is a thin veneer of similarity in terms of like, well, he is talking about population

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issues, but he's not talking about how population controls should be our highest priority or

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depopulation.

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And he is Kissinger, so it could be that he is talking about that.

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Well, so researchers looked into the quote that Alex uses, and they've only been able

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to trace it back.

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Like, the furthest back they can get of instances of it are a Louis Farrakhan speech and an

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interview with the anti-nuclear activist, Lorraine Monet, as being the most likely public

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sources, earliest public sources of the misquoting.

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Both claim to be quoting the same source of Kissinger, but they are not.

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Sounds right.

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Yeah, so I don't know.

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I mean, this is just a fake quote.

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So if I understand correctly...

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Alex falls for internet memes a lot.

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A fake quote quoted from people who were faking the quote is in this documentary, fakely.

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Documentary, in heavy quotes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And it's the fourth out of five...

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It's the correct...

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Yeah, it's the correct level of lie for this documentary.

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All of these quotes are fake.

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Yeah.

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That is the easiest thing as an editor or someone putting together a documentary to

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figure out, is this quote real?

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Can I find it in the public record?

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Is it in the text?

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That's the easiest fucking thing to do, and Alex didn't think to do that.

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It's weird that that's within the definition of quote, like the entire point of the word

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quote is, I am directly taking word for word.

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That's why we have a separate word for when you're not doing that called paraphrase.

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I am not reaching for the spirit of what this guy is trying to say.

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I'm not summarizing it.

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I am taking directly word for word.

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So when I say quote, this man said this, you can be sure.

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He said it.

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This man said word for word, exactly what you said.

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So when you are quoting somebody for a documentary or a research paper or of the like, one thing

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that you should be sure to do is to get every word right.

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Every single word right.

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It's important.

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Otherwise you have to say you're paraphrasing.

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Otherwise you have to say you're paraphrasing.

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Or admit you're lying.

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And you know what's worse?

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He would have a defensible case if he was saying he was paraphrasing.

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No he wouldn't because the spirit is still off.

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Not really.

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Not really.

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But I mean a more defensible case.

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Yes.

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If we were doing this documentary and then Alex Jones before he introduces these white

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letters on a black background with ominous music behind him, if he says, to paraphrase

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David Rockefeller, you'd be like, all right, well, I found parts of this quote.

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To kind of malign David Rockefeller, here's the quote.

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And I get, so here's where this really comes from.

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I know it's not a quote, but I, you know, that kind of thing.

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Now Jordan.

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It would just make things harder for you.

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I agree.

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Because then I would be like, wow, I got to find something similar to that?

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Jesus.

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Let me ask you this.

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Exactly.

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Before we get back.

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Those glasses versus Jim Tucker's hat.

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Glasses for sure.

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I agree.

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Look at those.

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Those are fucking tight.

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There's a need for new world order.

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Oh God, why do I always choose Kissinger when it comes to looks?

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In different parts of the world.

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Now, none of this may succeed this time, but this to me is sort of the outline by which

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someday in the next few years, a solution will emerge.

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Where does this mindset come from?

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Why do the elites kill the largest masses of people when no one is resisting them?

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They've already attained total control.

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What ideology drives the elite psychopath?

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We're about to enter a section of this documentary that is about eugenics.

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We're about to enter a section that's about Alex Jones.

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When he says, what is it that makes these people think the way they do?

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What I hear is, I'm about to tell you what makes me think.

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He's going to talk a ton about eugenics and this is the part of the documentary where

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I kind of have to take a step back.

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I kind of have to be like, you're misleading people about what eugenics was as a broader

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picture, but he's not wrong in a lot of cases.

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Now, generally speaking, if you throw out eugenics, even with bad information, you're

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closer to the truth than if you throw out, David Rockefeller is a Jew.

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The idea that a lot of scientists that we hold up in fairly high esteem had long dalliances

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with eugenics ideas, that's true.

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You got your gravity from a guy who believed that lead could be turned into gold.

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Well, there's that.

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There you go.

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Yeah, but that's-

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Also, he was crazy for other reasons.

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That's the caveat I'm going to make for the next bit of this documentary.

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It's like, well, yeah, I can't fucking argue that eugenics was real fucking popular for

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a while.

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What you just did was preemptively explain the fact that you'll be eating through most

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of this part.

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I might be eating a little bit.

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Since Plato's time, 2,400 years ago, state planners have openly proclaimed their desire

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to control every detail of the commoner's life from breeding programs to mass extermination

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of undesirables.

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The dark dream has continued on for millennia.

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It's all Plato's fault.

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The scientific rationale for tyranny has always been attractive to elites because it creates

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a convenient excuse for treating their fellow man as lower than animals.

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Also, there was a period of time where the idea of genetics and hereditary traits was

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new, and the explosion of possible applications of it was new.

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Then you had phrenology and all that shit.

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I don't want to hear Alex ever talk about reasons.

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I don't want to hear him talk about how, oh, this is why they demonized other people.

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Alex, you found plenty of reasons on your own, and half of them are eugenics-based.

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But I'm just trying to say that there is a pretty simple explanation for why eugenics

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was popular.

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It was on the vanguard of science back then, and people hadn't realized, ah, shit.

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When you mix- Oh, no.

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When you mix super intelligent people with super racist people, you're going to wind

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up getting super intelligent reasons for being racist.

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Totally.

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Yeah.

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Totally.

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Robert Thomas Malthus, famous for saying that a mass food collapse would be helpful because

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it would wipe out the poor.

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His fictional scenario would later be called a Malthusian catastrophe.

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Malthus is important because his ideas led to the rise of a new scientific field that-

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So real quick about Malthus, he didn't want to wipe out the poor.

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In fact, he supported helping the poor.

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However, he had some weird ideas about moral character being lacking in the poor.

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I want to hear this.

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And he had some ideas about sort of self-control being essential to having a successful life.

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Anyway, he had a lot of value-based stuff that was unnecessary.

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But be that as it may, the term Malthusian catastrophe refers to a situation that Malthus

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warned about, namely a situation where population increase outpaced agricultural production.

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He warned that when that happened, there would be a disaster and the deaths would be plentiful.

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Alex uses one source as a citation for this, and he doesn't specify where in the book he's

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talking about.

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It's like a 600-page book.

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But I found this text in there that- Close enough.

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This is interesting.

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So we should facilitate, instead of foolishly and vainly endeavoring to impede, the operations

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of nature in producing this mortality of the poor he's talking about.

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And if we dread the too frequent visitation of the horrid forms of famine, we should seditiously

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encourage the other forms of destruction which we compel nature to use.

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Instead of recommending cleanliness to the poor, we should encourage contrary habits.

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In other towns, in our towns, we should make the streets narrower, crowd more people into

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the houses.

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I'm starting to hear sarcasm.

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Yeah, and court the return of the plague.

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In the country, we should build our villages near stagnant pools, and particularly encourage

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settlements in all marshy and unwholesome situations.

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I don't think he's being serious, Dan.

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But above all, we should reprobate specific remedies for ravaging diseases and those benevolent,

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but much mistaken men who have thought they were doing a service to mankind by projecting

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schemes for the total extirpation of particular disorders.

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He is a Jonathan Swift type.

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He is talking about Alex.

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Yeah, basically.

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Alex takes him literally, and it's just-

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Here's what we should do.

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That's a modest proposal.

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We should get rid of vaccines.

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Vaccines are the reason that the poor are allowed to have all these diseases.

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We gotta get rid of them.

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He's clearly being facetious.

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Yes, obviously.

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He's making the point that if you don't want to be concerned about the potential for the

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poor to feed themselves, then why not fucking bring back the plague, you dumbass?

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So what our ultimate argument-

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He's making a stupid argument to highlight how stupid it is that you don't fucking support

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people who are in a disastrous situation.

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We should never have hipped dumb people to sarcasm.

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Because that screwed us.

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I don't think we have.

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They should never have heard about it.

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I don't think Alex does know.

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Oh, that's a good point.

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Yeah.

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We should actually be going out and explaining what sarcasm and satire is on a daily basis.

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Satire.

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Satire.

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Would dominate the course of human history for the next 200 plus years.

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Charles Darwin, an admirer of the Malthusian catastrophe-

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No.

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But, Alex is lying about Malthus, so the idea that Darwin admired him, that's not suspicious

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or weird.

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Develop the theory of evolution, its chief tenant being the survival of the fittest.

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With the help of T.H. Huxley, known as Darwin's bulldog for his strong support of Darwin's

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theories, Darwin's theories were pushed into wide acceptance among key scientific circles

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throughout England and then the world.

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Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton, credited as the father of eugenics, saw an opportunity

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to advance mankind by taking the reins of Darwin's evolution theory and applied social

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principles to develop social Darwinism.

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The families-

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That's not quite-

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Galton, Huxley, and Wedgwood-

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That's not what that phrase means.

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Were so obsessed with their new social design theory that they pledged their families would

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only breed with each other.

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That's not strictly speaking true.

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If you look at their birth chart, there's people who intermarry through other families.

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There's not really all that-

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Who cares?

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Yeah, I know.

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But also, I just want to be clear about this just because it seems very uncommon to us,

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that intermarrying within your family, like marrying your cousin or your second cousin,

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was not uncommon in Britain in the 1800s.

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So Alex saying that these guys, they intermarried with each other, that is-

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That was kind of a regular-

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Yeah.

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A lot of the times it was because-

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We have places called Kentucky.

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Well, sure.

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Well, I mean, that's not even in Britain.

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But there's so many reasons to do that.

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It's unnecessary to get into.

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They falsely predicted that within only a few generations, they would produce supermen.

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I get it.

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Nazis.

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The emerging pseudoscience was only codifying the practice of inbreeding, already popular

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within elites for millennia.

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The four families experiment was a disaster.

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Again-

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Within only two generations of inbreeding, close to 90% of their offspring either died

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at birth or were seriously mentally or physically handicapped.

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All about retaining property within a family.

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The moneyed class of the planet, and particularly the royal families of the world, were already

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obsessed with breeding and filled with the predatory disdain for the underclass, seized

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on the new science, and began aggressively enforcing its aims worldwide.

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Yeah, but that makes sense for them.

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The reason it makes sense is because nobody wants to admit that they have their money

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for no real reason.

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Sure.

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Nobody wants to admit-

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It's humbling.

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Oh, this is just random ass luck.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That guy over there, who doesn't have any money, if I was born differently, I could

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have been him.

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We're the same person.

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Can't be that.

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No.

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Like, if you go back through-

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It's devastating.

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And again, if you go back through-

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Your ego won't allow it.

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Right.

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Well, what we've talked about with fucking Trump, if you go back through his family,

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of course they're fucking racist eugenicists, because none of them want to admit, I'm just

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as random as dude if I didn't have money.

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Yeah, if I didn't-

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If Trump didn't have money-

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If I didn't figure out a couple of real nice scams-

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Yeah, I would just be an asshole.

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You can't allow yourself to admit that.

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So of course, if you're a fucking inbred king, you're not going to be like, well, anybody

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could do my job.

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You have to be like, well, it's because genetics.

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That's the reason my family has money.

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It's because of genetics, not just because we fucked over everybody that's ever gotten

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in our way.

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Because apparently, maybe it is genetics, Dan.

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Maybe sociopathy is something that you can transfer down through the line, so you never

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have to deal with the fact that other human beings are also real.

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Well, now you're in shape to listen to the rest of this.

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Now I'm a eugenicist, Dan.

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Evil people are fucking evil because of money.

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Biometrics appears to be a new science that was actually developed by Galton back in the

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1870s as a way to track racial traits and genetic histories and as a way to decide who

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would be licensed to breed.

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In 1904, the Cold Springs Harbor Research Facility was started in the United States

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by eugenicist Charles Davenport with the funding of prominent robber barons Carnegie, Rockefeller,

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and Harriman.

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The Cold Springs Harbor is much bigger than the eugenics piece that Alex is talking about,

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but he's pretending it's the entire research laboratory facility.

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There was a eugenics department in it that was widely ignored, what they were up to.

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On account of it's a eugenics department.

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And once they found out about it in 1935, they're like, fucking stop.

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They had their funding shut off and they were closed in 1939.

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But be that as it may, he thinks the Cold Harbor, Cold Springs Harbor is this one unipolar,

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just everybody's the same.

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And it's not.

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There were people who were doing like agricultural experiments.

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There were people who were doing like animal husbandry.

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This is something that I've been like, okay, so here's the hard part about eugenics.

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When we're talking about eugenics, if you stop and think of what we did to dogs, what

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we turned wolves into and we now call dogs, that's eugenics.

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That is the concept of eugenics is if you find certain characteristics over time, if

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you have complete control over those, you can breed further enhancement of those characteristics.

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Somewhat.

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So you then follow human beings or animals just like dogs.

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So we can do the same thing there.

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The problem comes because we control every part of a dog's environment, we can often

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see the changes that we want to breed in the dog.

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It's not that I want the dog to be smarter or anything like that.

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It's that this dog is much better at finding bah, so I'm gonna breed it with a dog that's

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better like that whole thing.

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You're going very specific.

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I think that's a lot of the lessons that they started to learn in the 1930s and that's why

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a lot of this stopped.

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A lot of it was like, no.

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Because when you start throwing in human eugenics, then you start throwing in biases people have

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towards race, standing, class, all of this shit.

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Legitimately, if we were to X out all of the other factors and just go by genetics, at

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the purest level, this guy has large feet, this lady has large feet, and then breed accordingly

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with no regard for anything else, eventually you're gonna get huge feet.

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That's how genes work.

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Probabilistically, yes.

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Yeah.

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I mean, if you really worked for 30 or 40,000 years at it, you could breed some people with

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huge ass feet.

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If society had some sort of extinction pressure that was about foot size, you could conceivably

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do that with enough time.

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Of course.

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Yeah.

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Maybe.

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You're not going to get some sort of Superman or anything like that.

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What you're gonna wind up doing is just going for the most dumb surface level shit.

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So if somebody starts telling you, well, we can breed for intelligence, then you go fuck

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yourself.

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You're a lying piece of shit.

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And so much of it comes down to really antiquated models of morality being based in some sort

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of a genetic deformity or some sort of genetic defect.

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And you come into like, oh, well, what's immoral to you isn't immoral to someone else.

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It's a hot mess.

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But yes, we could get big feet.

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Yeah.

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So if you want to believe in eugenics, technically speaking, we could get big feet.

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I'm glad we were able to come around to that.

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I just because eugenics really frustrates me because I feel like you always wind up

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at like the more, I don't know, like eugenics isn't a blanket negative word.

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Do you know what I'm saying?

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It's not all as bad as the word is.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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So eugenics is discriminatory and monstrous.

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But like from a purely let's all step back before we knew that discrimination was bad.

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And you hear these people saying eugenics and you're like, well, it kind of makes sense

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because look at what we did to dogs and cats and yada, yada, yada.

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We domesticated them.

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That whole thing.

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My problem with eugenics is that people often mistake it for the idea of something intrinsic,

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like some sort of value is genetic.

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You know, like morality.

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We can breed morality.

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You just coughed.

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That's how revolutionary.

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My chest is blown.

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Yeah.

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Not my mind, but my chest.

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No, it's like it's so hard to explain eugenics in such a way that satisfies both my inability

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to divorce humanity's idea of speciality from the rest of the animal kingdom.

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Sure, like, of course, eugenics could work.

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We're animals.

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We're animals.

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Yeah.

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That kind of a thing.

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Yeah.

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Well, at the same time, divorcing it from the evil of like, well, you know, of course,

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if you have a skull that's three and four thirds inches long, you're much smarter than

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somebody else.

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You know, that kind of a thing.

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Using eugenics on humans.

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Not a good idea.

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Well, especially in any like sort of changeable way, like it does anything to them is I think

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it's intrinsically immoral unless you are of the Atreides line and you are the God Emperor

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of Dune.

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All right.

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Fair enough.

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Shut up, Herbert.

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Right.

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Dune.

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Yeah.

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Five points for me.

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Yeah.

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Five points for you.

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Agreed.

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It's 20 to 10.

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1907.

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The first sterilization laws were passed in the United States.

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Spoiler alert.

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We're about to get to my favorite thing Alex lies about in this entire documentary.

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Those with mild deformities or low test scores on their report cards were arrested and forcibly

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sterilized.

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You're 17, aren't you, Alex?

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Yes.

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But what have you done by folks?

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Well, we're trying to help them, Alex, and you too.

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They were taken to the hospital this afternoon.

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Look, be very careful.

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Watch this.

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Watch for a jump cut.

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This was made in 1934, right?

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39.

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Oh, 34.

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Yeah.

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Well, I'll take this morning.

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We thought it necessary to present your family's case to the state medical commission, not

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to an examination.

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They decided it was one important action to take, to have your entire family sterilized.

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What's that?

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I don't know what you're talking about.

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Now, in this state, we have a law which provides for such people to have an operation so there

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won't be any more children.

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I see.

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Now, we placed your brothers in institutions where they'll be properly cared for.

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Well, you can go back to your job soon.

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I'll arrange to have it held open for you, but I'm kidding my job.

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I'm not going anywhere.

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I am.

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You're going to the hospital too, Alex, and you mean they're going to stop me from having

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children ever?

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Exactly.

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I'm all right.

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I tell you.

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I won't go to any hospital.

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We don't want any trouble.

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Oh, whoa.

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She is standing real quick.

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If you refuse to go, the officer here will take you by force.

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In 1910, the-

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Wait.

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Wait.

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Who directed this?

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This is my favorite thing.

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Who directed this, huh?

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So for no reason, I watched this movie.

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Alex is presenting-

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And Michael Bay directed-

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Alex is presenting it as a pro-eugenics movie.

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It is the exact opposite.

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It is so anti-eugenics.

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You can tell just from that little scene-

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I know, right?

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What are you talking about?

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The people trying to make this girl get sterilized are clearly the bad guys.

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I know.

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Yeah.

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So it's even more fucked up though.

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It's so bizarre.

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So that girl is-

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What type of pro-eugenics movie is going to have a cherub-faced, young, beautiful girl

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being like, but I don't want you to take me?

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And they're like, yeah.

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I'm about to get married.

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Eugenics are great.

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Make sure you kill all of these attractive people.

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What are you talking about?

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So I'll walk you through the plot of this movie.

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Okay.

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So you got this young lady.

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I can't remember her name.

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It doesn't matter.

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So-

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Eugenics.

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So she's part of this family, right?

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Her parents are drunks.

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They're-

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Oh, no.

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Well, then we got to get rid of her.

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And she's got two younger brothers.

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One has a bum leg and the other is mentally defective.

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Oh, you got to eugenics those bitches.

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He will only sit around playing with his dad's empty whiskey bottles.

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What?

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So one day the mom-

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So apparently we've learned how autism works.

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The mom has a stillborn child, right?

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The baby guy is-

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Oh, no.

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Got to eugenics that bitch.

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And so one day the doctor comes over.

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The very, very awesome hero character doctor comes over and is like trying to check up

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on her.

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And then coming over is like, hey, that bum leg, that could be fixed.

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What's up?

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That could be fixed.

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What's up with your bum leg?

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That's very easy.

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I'm going to send a doctor over to help you out.

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And so in the process of the doctor coming over, they realize that these kids are a mess.

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This family sucks.

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They're drunks too.

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Let's fucking sterilize all these people.

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And so the state offers them a bunch of assistance money if they will all get sterilized.

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And so the parents sign away.

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That's crazy.

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That sounds like something that would never happen post 2012 United States.

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The parents sign away the daughter's-

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I'm pretty sure.

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Actually, we might still be doing that.

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Possible.

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I think we might still be doing that.

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I'm not entirely sure.

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Anyways, that's the thing that's been done in the United States for the past all the

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time.

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Be that as it may.

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The parents say like, okay, yeah, we'll get the daughter to come and get her tubes tied

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to she'll never have kids or whatever.

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Anyway, she's about to get married to this guy.

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And he's supposed to be like this really lovable character, but there's a point that he's driving

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her home in the car and he asks her to marry her.

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Oh, is he a secret?

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No, he's a good character, but he's a good character for 1934.

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And that means he's like, I want to marry you.

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And she's like, I don't know if I'm ready.

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He's like, do I have to sock you?

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And it's like, holy shit.

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He threatens to hit her and then they're both smiling and whatever.

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So anyway, this is why we can't watch old movies anymore.

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So the government comes and they're like, you got to go.

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We're going to get these tubes tied.

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And the doctor who had come over initially is like, doctor number one.

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He's like, she's a good kid.

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She's working a job and supporting the family with the drunk parents.

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There's no reason to sterilize her.

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That's nonsense.

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No, she's one of the good ones, which again, muddles your argument just a little bit.

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Definitely.

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Don't sterilize based on family, sterilize based on person.

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Come on.

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No, no, no.

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So the argument that this good doctor is presenting throughout the entire thing is like, I understand

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where sterilization could work, but the way we're doing it is capricious.

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The way we're doing it is completely unnecessary.

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Because it's blind.

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He's the voice of conscience in the fucking movie along the whole way.

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So he's fighting against it.

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He's trying to make sure that they don't fucking sterilize her.

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And he's not having a, it's not possible.

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She gets remanded to the hospital by court.

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Oh no.

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And so she's there and she's going to get fucking sterilized.

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How long is this movie?

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It's like an hour.

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It's it's not all of this happens in an hour.

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It's not good.

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Dude, have you been watching the documentary we're watching?

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We're on eight and a half hours and I still don't know what's going on.

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So here, here's the, at least the movie you've described has a plot fucking rolls along,

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gets through all of it, nails out the plot points and then bring it home.

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I will say the victory, I will say it jumps around a bit.

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Does she get euthanized?

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Not euthanized.

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Sterilized.

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So here's the twist.

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What ends up happening?

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She does get euthanized.

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The mom gets super drunk and the, uh, the fiance has the town priest over and they're

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like, you got to do something to help her.

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Oh, is this like an Oh Henry thing where the mom sterilizes the dad and the dad was like,

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Oh, for Christmas I got you sterilized.

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No, they're already both sterilized.

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Oh, okay.

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Okay.

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Uh, but so the mom's all drunk and she's like, she's not even my daughter.

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She's a foundling.

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And so they call the, wait, so now that's fine.

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They call the judge and the judge calls the hospital.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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She's not actually related.

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The end resolution of the movie is not good.

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So okay.

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So in this movie advocating for maybe human beings shouldn't be categorized based on their

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social circumstances.

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At the end of it, the movie is like, thank God she was categorized based on her social

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circumstances.

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But they needed a way out of the plot without being too subversive.

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I get, I get the film system in 1934 and how you're like, we can't tell too complex a plot.

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We have to do a deus ex machina kind of thing to get us out of this.

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The plot, the message of the movie is the message of that doctor.

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And it's clearly the way we're doing this is not right.

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We are cruel and inhuman.

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And Alex using that as like a pro eugenics film is fucking laughable.

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It would have been.

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And he clearly edited that to make it look like that scene was saying more than it was

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saying.

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Yeah.

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Anyway.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean.

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I recommend Tomorrow's Children.

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Great film.

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It's far too much to hope for that they would portray black people in that movie, which

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is who they were doing all of the eugenics to.

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Yeah, the two criminals who end up getting euthanized or sterilized are both white ones

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like catatonic and the other is just kind of crazy.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Generally speaking.

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Kind of crazy, but good nature.

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Sterilization was used on black people almost exclusively as a weapon.

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They did make one really good salient like jab in the movie, which shocked me for 1934,

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which was that when the girl had to go to court to be decided if she was going to be

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sterilized because they were like appealing her case.

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Right.

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What another character was due to be in court.

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And it was this it was the son of the governor.

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And like he's back in chambers and there's a nurse there who's like trying to keep him

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together and he rips off her shirt is like like some sort of maniac.

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And the governor, the dad is like, keep it together, keep it together.

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And the lawyer comes over like, you're all right, you're all right.

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And the lawyer walks him out.

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And this guy is like, he has makeup to make him look like a fucking.

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Yeah.

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He looks like Dracula.

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Yeah.

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Frankly.

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Yeah.

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And the key, you know, he's sorry for his actions in the past and he's the son of the

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governor.

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And the judge is like, I think this guy is great.

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He doesn't need to be sterilized.

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Right.

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So there is like this class.

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So it's very much like he's acting like a fucking unleashed run for editor.

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Yeah.

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Gotcha.

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There is like there is that subversive message within that movie.

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Why are we talking about tomorrow's children?

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This is pre-studio system, right?

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Like this is before all of the the like, you can't show this.

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You can't show that.

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Like all of the self regulating that the Hollywood system did.

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I think I just realized I liked this movie.

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I think you like this movie.

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I think you genuinely do.

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I didn't like the movie.

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It was fine, though.

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But I liked watching Mr. I don't want to be sterilized.

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I liked watching it and like realizing that Alex is the fucking idiot.

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It's like, why would you show a movie that's all right for him to because of course he

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did.

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Only Alex would consistent like this is a pattern of behavior.

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This isn't just like, oh, he fucked up and showed a movie that was made entirely to disprove

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his point.

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He edited it specifically.

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Exactly.

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Because it talked about eugenics.

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He edited it to make it fit his right.

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He's doing it purposefully.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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That was what charmed me about it the most.

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He's trying to find anything that disagrees with him and then cut it and put it in a way

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to make it look like it agrees with him.

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Thus, one, of course, invalidating his own argument.

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But who cares?

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His argument was invalid.

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Right.

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Two, confusing whether or not anything means anything.

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Nothing means anything.

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Right.

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U.S. eugenics record office was set up.

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By then, the British had created the first network of social workers expressly to serve

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as spies and enforcers of the eugenics race cult.

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Citation needed.

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So all social workers are taking control of Western society.

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The social workers would decide who would have their children taken away, who would

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be sterilized, and in some cases, who would be quietly murdered.

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Whoa.

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Is that Reagan?

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This is from yesterday's children.

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In 1911, the Rockefeller family exports eugenics to Germany by bankrolling the Kaiser Wilhelm

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Institute.

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Important point to make...

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Here we go.

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Let's get into it.

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Dan.

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The important point to make is that eugenics as a worldwide phenomenon long predates the

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Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, and the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute existing in Germany way predated

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the Nazis.

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So the connection between them is not really concrete.

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Now, at the same time, there's a lot of questions about the things that may or may not have

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been studied at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute during the war, but drawing a causal and linear

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relationship there is not appropriate.

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Which later would form a central pillar in the Third Reich.

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That seems like an exaggeration.

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At the 1912 International Eugenics Conference in London, eugenics becomes an international

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craze and gains superstar status.

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The futurist and best-selling sci-fi author H.G. Wells had studied biology under top eugenicist

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and was spreading the new faith worldwide.

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Boy, if there's anything I know about H.G. Wells is that he loved eugenics.

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Totally.

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Comes out in all his works.

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Everything I know that H.G. Wells has written has always come down hard on the we should...

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Alright.

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Do you want to know one more thing about him?

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I can't even keep this up.

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Keep going.

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There's one more new thing you're gonna learn here.

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I'm so angry this long.

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H.G. Wells' lover Margaret Sanger starts her promotion of eugenics in the United States.

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In 1923 Sanger receives massive funding from the Rockefeller family.

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So when he's saying this, in 1923 that she received...

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When he's Sanger-ing it.

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When he's Sanger-ing that she got a lot of money in 1923 from Rockefeller, what's important

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to remember...

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What?

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In 1923 Margaret Sanger had been fighting a very unpopular fight to try and provide

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access to birth control and health services to women for a long time.

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In 1914 she started a monthly newsletter called The Woman Rebel with the slogan, no gods,

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no masters.

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She produced this newsletter antagonistically in large part because she wanted to create

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a legal challenge for the Comstock Act of 1873 regarding obscenity, which made it illegal

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to disseminate information about contraception.

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Several authorities would go on to suppress the release of five out of the seven issues

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she would create.

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In August 1914 Sanger was indicted for violating obscenity laws, but instead of going to trial

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she fled to England.

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On October 26, 1916 Sanger was arrested for operating a women's clinic in New York's then

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poverty ridden Lower East Side.

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She was arrested and when she was released she reopened the clinic, was arrested again.

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At that point she reopened the clinic again.

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The police responded by shutting the clinic down for good.

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When she went to court for this charge she was found guilty and the judge held that women

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do not have, quote, the right to copulate with a feeling of security that there will

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be no resulting conception.

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She was second.

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What a brilliant legal decision.

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That's a judge.

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That's a fucking judge.

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They don't have the right to fuck without getting pregnant.

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That's crazy.

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I mean, look, I have read the Constitution.

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Right.

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Mm-hmm.

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Sounds right to me.

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She was sentenced to 30 days in a workhouse.

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She appealed the...

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It's also in the Constitution that if you say women have the right to fuck, you gotta

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work for it.

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She appealed that and it was rejected, but in 1918 her appeal was heard and the case

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set the precedent that it exempted physicians from the law prohibiting the distribution

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of contraception information to women provided it was prescribed for medical reasons.

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That was illegal up till that point.

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That's crazy for doctors.

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Everybody is stupid forever always.

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Any time we find out one of Alex's enemies, you discover how amazingly awesome they were.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Look, okay.

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She's crazy awesome.

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Here's the thing.

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Here's the thing about this.

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If Phyllis Schlafly, who should be lit on fire and then when her soul is brought back

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from hell, lit on fire again, tossed down there again, and so on and so forth, because

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I never want her to get comfortable anywhere.

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I don't want her to be comfortable in her eternal torment.

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I want her to have to keep bouncing around anymore.

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You're basically a poet.

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But if Schlafly had a history as bad ass as that of like, oh, you're going to shut me

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down?

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Fuck you.

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I'm going to do it again.

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Oh, you're going to shut me down?

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Fuck you.

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I'm going to do it again.

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Oh, you're going to put me in jail?

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Fuck you.

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I'm going to do it again.

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Oh, you're going to tell me I have to do this shit?

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Fuck you.

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I'm going to do it again.

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And at the end of that, a precedent is set that said Phyllis Schlafly, as monstrous as

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she can still be a monster, I'd be like, fuck, I disagree with you, but I respect the goddamn

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hell out of that.

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And he can't even do that.

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They can't do that.

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They can't be like, look at what a bad ass she is.

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I disagree with her, but look at that bad assness.

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And there's no point if it's like, well, she must really wholeheartedly believe in providing

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women's health.

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No, it's because she's a demon.

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It's not because she's a bad ass.

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It's not because she gives a shit.

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It's not because of any of these things.

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It's because she's a demon.

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Anytime, anytime anybody who does something that disagrees with what you do so hard, so

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heartfully, so meaningfully, it is not because they experienced that meaning at the same

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level as you do.

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It's not because they are also a human.

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It's because the only way somebody could come at you like that is if they're controlled

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by Satan.

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And Alex.

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And thus you understand Islamophobia, apparently.

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And Alex is pretending that along that entire road, she was receiving money from these globalist

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Rockefeller.

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Well, who else is going to finance those legal battles?

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Fucking wasn't.

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It's true that John D. Rockefeller Jr. did support Sanger's work around that point in

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1923.

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Everybody should.

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That's not telling the entire story.

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The reason that he, Alex, chose that date specifically to bring up is that that's the

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year that Sanger opened the country's first legal birth control clinic, but he's leaving

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out that around this time, Sanger also married her second husband, oil businessman, Noah

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H. Sleigh, and he provided much of the funding for her efforts.

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So the Rockefellers did start to come in once it became legal that she was running a birth

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control clinic, but they weren't involved before that.

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She was getting screwed all over the place and people were not helping her.

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She carried this crusade for a very long time and then once it was legal, some outside funding

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came in and she got married to this really rich dude and he gave a bunch of money to

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which, unfortunately, lessens it a little bit for me.

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It doesn't because she's already carried the crusade for decades.

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But the problem is now I've got it in my head that it's like, hmm, I wish rich people weren't

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involved.

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Yeah, but at the same time, people are never going to be able to do it on her own.

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The oil businessman, Jay Noah H. Sleigh, maybe he was woke as shit.

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Jay Noah H. Sleigh?

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Yeah, maybe.

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With a name like that, he's got to be woke.

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Again, another crazy fucking name.

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Where did these come from?

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Anyway.

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Wrote to fellow eugenicist Clarence J. Gamble that black leaders would need to be recruited

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to act as front men and sterilization programs directed against black communities.

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Doesn't sound right.

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In 1924- I was going to ignore that, it's not true.

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My struggle and credits U.S. eugenicist as his inspiration.

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That's true.

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That is true.

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Hitler even wrote a fan letter to American eugenicist and conservationist Madison Grant

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calling his race based book, The Passing of the Great Race, his Bible.

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That's true.

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But Madison Grant was a fucking monster.

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He was a huge anti-Semite and a disaster.

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Was he a bad guy?

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He wrote, mistaken regard for what are believed to be divine laws.

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Anybody who writes a book with the title of The Passing of the Great Race-

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Not great.

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Got to be a great guy.

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Mistaken regard for what are believed to be divine laws and a sentimental belief in the

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sanctity of human life tend to prevent both the elimination of defective infants and the

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sterilization of such adults as are themselves no value to the community.

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Not going great so far.

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The laws of nature require the obliteration of the unfit and human life is valuable only

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when it is of use to the community or race.

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I feel like he's gone a long ways off track.

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He went on to say that the Nordic race-

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No, don't say Nordic.

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He extolled the Nordic race.

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Don't say Nordic.

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And bemoaned its corruption by Jews, Negroes, Slavs, and others who did not possess blonde

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hair and blue eyes.

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That is not great.

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He was already on board with Hitler's type of shit.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Don't use him as an example of all these scientists.

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Also no, I think it should go the other way around.

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Look at how crazy this guy is.

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Even Hitler got on board with his shit.

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I think he probably was pre-loaded to do so already.

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Maybe.

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I don't know.

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It's tough to say.

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Wait.

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Didn't he write it?

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No, but he wrote it before Hitler's rise to power.

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Right, but-

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The passing of the great race.

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Yeah, but it's not like it's an isolated thing.

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No, but that's what I'm saying.

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If you're going to-

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People hating minorities, especially Jews, isn't a new thing in 1930.

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No, no, no.

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I agree.

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I mean as a way of denigration, your description should be, look at how crazy Madison Grant

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is.

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Yes.

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Hitler thought he was a genius.

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Totally.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Yeah.

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So Alex is right, but also, meh.

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Yeah.

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Hitler developed a plan for mass extermination of the Jews in what he called other sub-races,

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as well as the handicapped from Grant.

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By 1927, eugenics hit the mainstream.

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The so-called science was aggressively pushed through contests at schools, churches, and

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at state fairs.

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And that's why we can't have roads in Texas.

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Contests with big cash prizes to see who could best implement eugenics into their sermons.

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Major denominations then tell Americans that Jesus is for eugenics.

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So Alex's citation for this is one speech from 1926.

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Which covers major denominations, plural.

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It's a typewritten sermon that is unclear who it came from.

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There's no reference or anything.

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Which means it came from all determinations.

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I agree with him.

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Continue.

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It's an unclear, like it's incomplete.

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Like the pages aren't complete for the sermon, so you don't know all of what it's saying.

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It's like five pages out of who knows how many.

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But what it does reference is Mark 14 21, which says, the Son of Man indeed goeth as

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it is written of him.

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But woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed.

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Good were it for that man if he had never been born.

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The Bible is so boring.

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Right.

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But it's using that good for him if he had never been born.

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No, I get that.

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To imply that there's a moral characteristic to his genes or whatever that he was doomed.

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Right.

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Talking about Judas.

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Yes.

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Being doomed from birth because of bad genes.

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And so it extrapolates from there.

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And you know what?

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That's not the craziest thing I've ever heard a preacher say.

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That's not the craziest thing I've heard a preacher say on Alex Jones's show.

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That's not the craziest thing I've heard you say.

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Alex Jones has frequently had Reverend James David Manning on his show who says that the

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gays put semen in Starbucks lattes because they like to have a good time.

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It's not crazy if it's the truth, Dan.

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It's not crazy if it's the truth.

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Right.

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But also the other problem with that is that like, strictly speaking, that preacher's kind

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of making like an okay point from the text.

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Well, it's not it's not on like if you allow for the idea that they're already saying,

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it's not like that guy is crazy.

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No.

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He's not like he's not clearly under the influence of some eugenics board.

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He's just applying a line of thought to a pre-existing interpretation of scripture.

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It's not.

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Right.

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But that's probably that's probably the major failing with scripture is that that guy wrote

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it thinking one thing and then it turned into a million whatever the thing that I want it

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to mean.

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It's crazy to us.

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So anytime you're not that great.

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Scripture is all fucking stupid.

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The idea of scripture is stupid.

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The Constitution is stupid.

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Yeah.

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Everything is stupid.

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Absolutely.

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Fucking build on it.

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Change.

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Grow.

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Don't just don't be like, well, Jesus said in Mark one through.

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I don't give a fuck.

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Yeah.

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The past can suck my dick.

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Yes.

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Agreed.

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Except for where it already did a great job.

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That same year in the United States, more than 25 states passed four sterilization laws

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and the Supreme Court ruled in favor of brutal sterilization policies.

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When Hitler came to power in 1933, one of his first acts was to pass national eugenics

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laws modeled after laws in the United States.

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It's unfortunate.

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USA!

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Wait, is now not the time?

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Yeah, probably not.

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The 1934 film Tomorrow's Children brought the eugenics agenda to the children.

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Going back to it.

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There you go, buddy.

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It's the courtroom scene.

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In the case of Miss Mason, I can see no reason for the operation that's been recommended.

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That's a good doctor right there.

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No problem.

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She's hard working and has a good reputation.

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Do you know anything about her family background?

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Yes, your honor, I do.

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There are several other children, aren't there?

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Yes.

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What is their condition?

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One is a cripple.

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Whoa, you caught me, sir.

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Isn't the oldest son in jail?

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Well, yes, I am.

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Whoa.

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And knowing all that, you still contend that this girl could be allowed to bring more people

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like that into the world?

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She sounds, your honor.

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She's not anything like the rest.

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Well, that's muddling your argument a little bit.

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I can't agree with you, doctor.

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Suppose she is normal.

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Suppose she is normal?

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She's just normal.

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Isn't that possible?

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It's the 30s.

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Old ladies wear everything.

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Three generations of unfit are enough.

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Petition not allowed.

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Also, that judge is the ville.

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By 1936, Germany had become the world leader in eugenics for taking effective actions to

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sterilize and euthanize.

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I don't know.

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Have you ever made a movie where you wanted your good guy to be a doctor?

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No.

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No.

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No.

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No.

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No.

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No.

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I don't know, have you ever made a movie where you wanted your good guy to look like the

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unrepentant monster that says, that kid can be sterilized?

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These are the rules.

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Yeah.

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Good guys.

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So many great movies.

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The Big Three of Ameri-

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Hold on.

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Like in eugenics, Davenport, Laughlin, and Gough were dispatched by the Rockefellers

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to Germany, where they advised the Nazis on the fine-tuning of their extermination system.

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So here, Alex says that Davenport, Laughlin, and Gough were dispatched by the Rockefellers

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to help the Nazis with eugenics.

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Davenport, Laughlin, and Gough.

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His citations on this are incredibly loud.

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I don't know whether to go with a fucking-

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I think it's Gertha.

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I don't know whether to go with a lawyer's partner's joke or a Shadrach, Meshach, and

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Abednego joke.

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Which way do I go with this?

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Here's where I'm going to go with this.

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Gertha.

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I'm going to ignore it.

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That's how I'm going to pronounce his name also.

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Okay, Gertha.

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Gertha is the letter that Alex Jones posts as a citation, is reporting to someone named

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Mr. Eddy about what he observed of the Germans collecting eugenic data.

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It has nothing to do with helping them or overt aspects of the Holocaust.

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It was written in 1937 before Kristallnacht, before the invasion of Poland, et cetera.

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That being said, this Gertha was a real bad dude.

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I believe it.

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He was a bad dude.

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I believe it.

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His citations don't prove it, and he was absolutely a fucking racist.

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So now Davenport, Alex has a citation that is another letter from this guy.

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This is from November 11th, 1922, a year before the Beer Hall push.

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At that point, Hitler and the Nazis were a small but noisy group decidedly not in power.

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The letter affirms that there are Germans interested in the principles of eugenics and

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sterilization but does not show that he was at all sent there to help the Nazis.

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That said, Davenport was a bad dude.

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He did write for some German scholarly journals much later than he should have, going up to

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1939.

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Weirdly, in 1938, he wrote a letter to the editor of the Time Magazine and said about

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FDR and Joseph Goebbels, both, quote, led revolutions and aspired to dictatorships while

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burdening their country with heavy taxes and reducing its finances to chaos.

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All right.

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Well.

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So he's saying that.

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That's not smart.

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He's writing for a German scholarly journal and talking shit on Goebbels a year before.

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It's very confusing.

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He's a fucking bad dude, too.

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He was a mess.

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So there's a press clipping that he's a Nazi.

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There's a press clipping that Alex Jones uses as a citation for Laughlin being honored at

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the 550th anniversary of the University of Heidelberg.

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But this is from 1936, even before Goethe's letter.

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The Olympics were in Germany that year.

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So so it was going great.

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Yeah.

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But Laughlin is also a bad dude.

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I look, I'm not I'm not trying to paint with a broad brush.

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But if your name is mentioned in 1930s Germany, I'm going to lead with you're probably not

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a good dude.

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Laughlin, period.

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Laughlin.

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Like the list of guys mentioned.

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OK, so, you know, a guy's name from 1930s Germany.

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What are the percentage wise?

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Is it a hero?

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No.

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Or is it a bad dude?

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It's not good.

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It's not a bad percentage.

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So just by you saying a name from 1930s Germany, I'm going to be like, well, these are probably

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an evil dude.

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These were Americans.

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These were Americans?

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Yeah.

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Alex is claiming that they were dispatched to Germany to help with eugenics.

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But they weren't.

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In 1930s, percentage wise, like if you're an American.

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Not good.

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Not good.

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Laughlin was described as, quote, among the most racist and anti-Semitic of early 20th

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century eugenicists by a biographer.

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There's little doubt.

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That's a fucking claim.

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There's little doubt that he would be on board with the Nazis, but no evidence.

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That's a fucking claim.

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But there's no evidence provided he collaborated with them.

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Also, a year before he went to Germany, a review panel convened by the Carnegie Institute

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concluded that the eugenics record office, which he was in charge of at Cold Springs

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Harbor.

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They had confirmed that he had fit the most marbles in his mouth.

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He had the eugenics record for that.

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They concluded that the research they were doing had no scientific merit and withdrew

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funding for it and shut it the fuck down.

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Interestingly, before that point, they'd never audited the research they were doing.

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So at that point, they were like, oh, fuck, we've been funding them for 10 years.

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So we fucked up.

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So you presented us with a pitch of you're going to find out stuff about eugenics.

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And then we looked into it.

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And it turns out you're just a racist.

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So that's not really science.

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So we're going to have to shut you down.

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And I'm sorry, I don't want to be the guy to do it.

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Right.

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It's coming from the brass.

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Bro, I love you.

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Bro.

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Look, I love you.

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I'm a racist too.

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Hey, hey, who amongst us isn't really a racist?

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But we can't just be doing this.

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You got to have some sort of science.

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Give me some science, Dan.

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One of the big reasons that they didn't find out for so long is that because these research

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centers, these eugenics records offices, the primary function was to collect data.

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And that takes a long time.

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So there's a big window before someone's going to recognize that something is up and that

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what you're doing is meaningless.

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So there's an argument to be made that what they were doing was actually defrauding these

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foundations.

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Yeah, I was going to say, this sounds like a big ass scam.

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They probably didn't mean to, but in the end, the product is that's what they did.

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And that, folks, is where we will have to cut off for today.

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I feel really bad about this.

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Not bad.

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But the way this documentary is going and the way our coverage of it is going, it's

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an impossible task for me to figure out an end point for this section of the coverage.

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And I apologize for cutting things off right in the middle of some hot Nazi talk.

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There's some Nazi stuff at the end of today's episode, and we'll jump right back into it

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tomorrow, at the beginning of tomorrow's episode.

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But anyway, guys, if you'd like to find out more about our show, you can go to KnowledgeFight.com.

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We're on Twitter at Knowledge Underscore Fight.

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You can leave a review of the show, follow us, tell your friends, all that good stuff.

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We're also on iTunes, and we would appreciate it if you subscribed or if you wanted to leave

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Any of those things are really helpful, and it would mean a lot.

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But for now, I've got to get out of here, because this documentary sucks, and it sucks

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to relive it as I edit our coverage of it.

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And I'm sorry that we're putting you through it.

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You know what, though?

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The listeners asked for it.

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I'm only apologizing halfway.

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But hey, guys, all the best to you and yours, and we will catch you tomorrow.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.