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I love you
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Hey everybody welcome back to Knowledgefight
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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes
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I'd like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene
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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones
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Oh indeed we are Dan. Jordan
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Dan, quick question for ya. What's up?
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What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today Jordan
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some may call this
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trivial, some may call this
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unimportant, but that's what the bright spots are often
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about. Indeed. I was grocery
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shopping and I noticed something that
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I didn't really realize existed
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but I kind of probably did in the back of my mind
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Leprechauns. Yes. I got a
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leprechaun. Okay. I bought Lucky Charms
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No, um, the
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sauce cups. Sauce cups?
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Disposable sauce cups. Yes! No, I
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understand. Yeah
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in the like paper plates section
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I didn't realize they would just sell
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like a big pack of
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sauce cups. No, you assume you can
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only get those from a restaurant. Right. They're the
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only ones who have access to sauce cups
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I figured there'd be an embargo
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on just civilians
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buying sauce cups. Why would I go to a restaurant
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if I could buy my own sauce cups? I love
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I love to dip. Dipping is
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a hobby of mine. Many people love dipping
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And so this was really exciting
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and I've enjoyed it. It's made me
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think like, okay, I got this bag
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of them and that's great, but this is eventually
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going to get very wasteful. I may need to
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see if I can find reusable
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of the exact same size. Like why
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not? That's got to exist somewhere
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right? That's a good point. That might be my next bright spot.
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I mean I think it's called Tupperware?
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No. Well Tupperware does come in a lot
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of sizes. Probably there are some
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that are... I bet they've got sauce cup Tupperwares
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Oh no. I'll have to get you in contact with
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my Tupperware party friend and mom.
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So yeah
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what's your bright spot? My bright spot
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Dan is, I had a great Friday
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I had a great Friday
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First thing first, I finished my hand tattoo
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I noticed it looked a little bit darker. Yeah, it's great
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Got a nice little contrast in there
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added some shadows there and then
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later on I finally got to
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speak in, not person, but
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in audio with
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Molly at Socialist Dog Mom
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we watched the magicians together
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and it went great!
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And? And what?
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And the stream exploded
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because the power in my
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entire block shut off after
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a suspicious explosion-y
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sound. So somebody's
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transformer probably blew up.
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You're not going to be as suspicious as you're
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making it out to be. No one was sabotaging your stream.
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No, no, no. Transformer
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kind of made a big noise and then everything crashed
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but until then, without
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a hitch. Yeah, you were texting me about
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your power being out and I was enjoying
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trying to be a detective. Like
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looking into it and seeing if like, ooh can we find
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an update? I thought for sure that there would be
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something. That was a really large sounding
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explosion. Yeah, it was weird to me
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how long it took for anything to show up on
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ComEd's outage map.
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But yeah, eventually it did.
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And then, how long did it last?
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When did your power come back on?
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Probably about four hours. Did you pick back up
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on the stream? We tried to
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but Molly had gone to sleep
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at that point. Yeah, unfortunately.
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Well, I'm glad
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that it went well while it did.
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While it was, it was.
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And probably next time
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there won't be a transformer explosion.
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I hope not. Unless it is suspicious.
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Unless that's the case. Then you're fucked.
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It's going to be every time. There's the
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stream saboteur out there. Uh huh.
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You never know when who's going to serial stream saboteur
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you. Yup. Triple S. Serial stream
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saboteur. Yup. Yup. So Jordan
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today we have an episode to go over.
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Indeed. Last week we
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decided that it was
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not in anyone's best interest
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for us to cover Alex's response
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to the Uvalde shooting. Right.
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But the time has come
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and today we are going to be getting into
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that. So here's
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the sort of syllabus of
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things. Today is almost the bottle
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episode you could say.
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In as much as we're just going to be talking
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about Alex's emergency
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report from that night.
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From May 24th
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2022. Hours after
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the shooting. Oh my god. Yes.
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And so we're going to be covering that and
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then on Wednesday we'll get into more
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of the like continuing coverage. Show full.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But just because
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this was such a immediate
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document of Alex's response and
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some other stuff
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it felt like it had a stand
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alone quality. We can see what's going
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on and then as we cover
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more of the time afterwards you can see how things
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maybe develop. Yeah.
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One of the reasons that I'm giving this
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caveat is because
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as we are recording in
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the present day we are aware
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of a number of things that it's unfair to
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judge Alex by. Sure.
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On this day. Naturally.
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Like in terms of the police response
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and a lot of that conversation. Right.
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That is awareness that we have
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that we shouldn't transpose onto
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what we're covering today.
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Correct. And it's
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difficult to
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sort of segment
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that off. Sure. But that's more of a
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discussion for Wednesday.
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As opposed to, although I do think it's
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important and obviously I'm not trying to
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like avoid it or anything. No, of course not.
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Right, right, right. It's just a lot of that information
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was not known.
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And you can really only judge somebody by
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the information that's known and what
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they do with it when they do
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what they do. This bears close reading
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within the context that it is given.
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Yes. As opposed to bringing whatever it is
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we decide to bring to.
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And maybe this is being
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a little bit too precise with things
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but I think in the
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context of this coverage
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of an event that is
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this major
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and traumatic.
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I think it bears that.
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Yes. So we'll get to this episode but first
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let's take a little moment to say hello to some new
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wonks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first
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Maddicus Finch, thank you so much. You are now
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a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much. Thank you. Next. Andy from
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Canada, I love you. Thank you so much. You are now
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a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much. Thank you. Next.
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Amplexus, Satan's middle management HR
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assistant. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Next. Ben from the
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Year of Our Lord 2020 Rob
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Dew. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Next. Look Coop
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I made it on the show. Thank you so much. You are now
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a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got a couple
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of technocrats here in the mix. So first
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even better, better muscleier
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Nate. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.
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And Deesmon
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and Doddy Clay, a Creed
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and Nickelback fusion cover band. Thank you
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so much. You are now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk. I have
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risen above my
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enemies. I might quit tomorrow actually.
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I'm just going to take a little breaky now.
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A little
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breaky for me.
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And then we're going to
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come back. And
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I'm going to start the show over.
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But I'm the devil. I've got to be taken over here.
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I've been all this blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Fuck you. Fuck you.
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I got plenty of words for you, but at the
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end of the day, fuck you and your new
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world order and fuck the horse
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you rode in on and all your shit.
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Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
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Maybe I'll just be gone a month,
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maybe five years.
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Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow
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and you never see me again.
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That's really what I want to do.
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I never want to come back here again.
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I apologize to the crew
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and the listeners yesterday that I
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was legitimately having breakdowns
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on air. I'll be better
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tomorrow. A million times he is not.
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He is not better tomorrow. No, no, no.
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Nope, absolutely not.
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Now, this was recorded at
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seven in the
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evening central time
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in Austin.
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And I'll just give
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a little bit of a caveat warning
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maybe. I think
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Alex is a little drunk.
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I don't know if he's drunk, but
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he is not
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communicating the normal way that
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he does. And I want to
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give a little bit of a possible
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explanation in that
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maybe he's just really tired.
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I don't know. But there are
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mannerisms that are like
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this guy seems a little bit
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off. Whatever we're dealing with
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it is an altered state.
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Whatever the case for it may be.
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It feels that way and I think that
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that's part of the reason that he has Owen Troyer
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co-hosting with him. Oh, okay.
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Because I don't think Alex could have handled doing this on his own.
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No, so they went back into the studio
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to record this. Yeah. Gotcha.
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And I have a strong feeling
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that Alex, for whatever reason
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there was a lack of energy
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that was there and so
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of course you need. And Owen
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Owen handles a lot of this.
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He's doing a fair amount of
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heavy lifting. That's bad.
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So we start off here at the beginning
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and Alex, I feel like this is
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a little bit weird. He seems
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a little bit hyped almost
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for the idea that this special
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report is happening. Of course.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we are live
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on Tuesday night, May 24th
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18 dead in South Texas
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live coverage. Ted Nugent, Owen Troyer
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myself, Alex Jones coming up.
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Infowars.
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The most banned
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network in the world.
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So there is like a
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hey, this is coming up.
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It feels unnecessary
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and it struck me as a little bit
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like ugh. Yeah, I don't
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necessarily appreciate a
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showmanship as
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a way
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to get people to draw into your
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broadcast. A teaser sting of like
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we got Ted Nugent coming up. I mean it is
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it is especially
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a voice that says
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get excited for what I
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have to say about this thing. We've
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got a great show for you about this.
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100%. Yep. And it's
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yeah, the tone is off.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. If Jimmy Carson
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was announcing like
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we've got Ted Nugent coming on
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after this, you're not far off.
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Yeah, I felt
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like we were maybe not
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where I hoped this would be.
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Yeah, not a good start. So there's a bit
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of a special report video package
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thing that plays after Alex does this
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promotional sting.
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And here's where we
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start the report proper.
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It's 7.08 Central
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Standard Time. I'm your host
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Alex Jones. I'm a Troyer host of the War Room
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riding shotgun. Ted Nugent
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NRA board member joining us coming up
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in the next hour.
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If you don't like doing emergency broadcasts
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like this, Texas
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has had a mass shooting in an elementary
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school in Uvalde
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outside
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of San Antonio.
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And they are now reporting
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18 dead students, three adults
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killed in Uvalde school shooting.
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Not a lot of law enforcement sources.
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It's too early to say anything, but it's very
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bizarre that this reported individual
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who appears to be a transgender
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like the person that attacked
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Dave Chappelle
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last month
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had killed his grandmother reportedly
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and the Border Patrol was after him
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and then he ran to the school, crashed his vehicle
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got in, killed all these people
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and then they were saying he was
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captured but now they're reporting he is dead.
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If Alex doesn't like doing these special
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reports, I have some really good news for him.
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He absolutely doesn't have to. The only
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reason that he's doing this is to strike while the
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iron's hot. It's the exact same
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impetus that drove his actions immediately
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after the Buffalo shooting. He was gonna
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take the day off and have a guest host, but
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he couldn't resist the attention of how large the
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audience was in the wake of the shooting.
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He literally said that
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on his own show on air.
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Now Royce White is a former NBA
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player, a martial arts
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fighter as well,
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mixed martial arts, and he has
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really been kicking ass running against Ilhan Omar.
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He is about to take
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over here, ladies and gentlemen.
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He's got a special guest, David
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Penn, political activist, international businessman.
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He was set to host today, but things were so hot
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with such a giant audience, I just thought I had
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to come in and give you my baseline on what's
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going on and then I'll be back in the
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second segment, hour two
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to play the ex-service where I predicted all this
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very, very specifically.
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Alex knows full well by this point that
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tragedies are opportunities for him, and
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he exploits them to the fullest.
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That's what's driving this emergency coverage,
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not a journalistic obligation to cover
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the story in a way that serves the audience
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and helps inform people. And one of the big
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tells about this is that he says that the shooter
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in this case was supposedly trans,
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just like the person who attacked Dave Chappelle
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recently. Both of these pieces
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of information are not true,
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but Alex knows that transphobia is very
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popular in his audience and the larger
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right-wing community right now, so he can
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contextualize this shooting that way
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and he'll be able to fold it into his other
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narratives very easily.
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The person who attacked Dave Chappelle is named
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Isaiah Lee, and he is a cis man who
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has given varying explanations
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for his actions. It might be because
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he identifies as bisexual or
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that he was unhoused and Chappelle
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was making jokes about these things, or
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he also told NBC News that
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quote, another comedian in the show
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made a joke about pedophilia and that
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having been molested, it was triggered.
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This situation is a bit difficult
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to parse out specifically, and after the
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incident, the person he lived with in a transitional
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housing apartment accused Lee of stabbing
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him during a fight back in December,
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and he's now being charged with attempted murder
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in that case. There's a lot going on
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there, but one thing is clear and that is that
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Lee is not trans. That's just a narrative
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that was concocted by the right-wing media to
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demonize trans people. And
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it was very easy for them to do that
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too, because Chappelle himself
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kind of helped. After he was
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attacked, Chappelle joked that the person who did it
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was a trans man, playing on the very well-understood
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reality that a bunch of his recent work
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has hurt a lot of people in the trans
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community, and playing on
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that idea that they would attack in retaliation.
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Or something. And that
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facilitated the ease of that
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narrative sticking, and you can see it being
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parroted by Alex, though not true.
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You got it. The shooting in Uvalde
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started at approximately 1130 AM,
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and only a few hours later, people
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on 4chan began circulating images of
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a trans woman that they were claiming was the shooter
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in an intentional effort to perpetuate
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an anti-trans hoax.
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People on 4chan do this thing
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all the time, and Alex falls for it
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a lot, as was discussed in the Kit Daniels
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deposition about how he was fooled
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by a 4chan hoax, which led him to
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misidentifying Marcel Fontaine
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as the Parkland shooter. Alex
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is doing the exact same thing here, fully illustrating
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that he's learned exactly zero lessons
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from the lawsuits he's been facing.
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Alex has timestamped this very
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conveniently for us, and he says that it's
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708 Central Time, and from there
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we can see what information was widely
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available for him to operate off of.
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There were multiple trans women
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who were targeted by these smear campaigns.
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The first of them goes by
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Sabrina, and at 616 PM
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she had posted on Twitter that she was
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not the shooter, even going so far as to post
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new pictures in the same location
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as the photo being used by trolls
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to accuse her at 704 PM.
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It makes sense that Alex wouldn't
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have time to see these new pics that Sabrina
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posted, but there's no reason for him not
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to be aware that this was a hoax by the time
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that he got on air. There was a second
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trans woman named Sam who was targeted
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by these hoaxes, and one of
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the most likely ways that Alex would have
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possibly found out about this
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was at some time prior to
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639 PM, Andrew
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Torba, the head of GAB, reposted
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an accusation that Sam was the shooter.
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This post had been made by
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an account called The Nose, which is
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apparently a verified account on GAB.
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I took a little stroll through that account
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and here's the first pinned post they
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have. Quote,
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A homogenous society is similar to a healthy
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functioning immune system able to detect
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threats. I'm a giant anti-semite
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racist. Yep. Yeah.
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Pretty easy to see what's going on there. Yeah.
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Also, their bio starts, quote,
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noticing noses. So it's
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really cool that the head of GAB is not
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only following this guy, but also amplifying
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their posts where they basically accuse someone
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of killing elementary school students in
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order to foment hate towards trans people.
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Yeah, I don't think he was talking about
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specifically Roman patricians.
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No. No. By 630 PM
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people on Twitter were pushing back against
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this, an amplifying post Sam had made
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that showed that she was not the shooter and
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in fact was still alive. The bottom line
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is that there is no acceptable reason for
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Alex to be on air reporting the story this way.
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This is one of the first
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details he's providing about the story, so
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it seems like it's something very important
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to him, and he's done literally nothing
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to check in on it. At best, he
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saw something on 4chan and decided to run
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with it, despite him being sued for doing
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exactly that about another shooting
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and his corporate representative testifying
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under oath that 4chan is not a source he would
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use. At worst,
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he's reporting this based on Andrew Torba's
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reposting of a clear anti-semite
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transphobe and white nationalist account
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on GAB who's just repeating random
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shit that they saw on 4chan
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or Reddit. Again, there's no
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clearer evidence that Alex has not
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learned any lessons from his lawsuits
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and that his hatred of transphobes far
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supersedes his obligation to report accurate
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information. And you can see that just
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from the jump here, it's bad.
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Yeah, and it's like
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I understand that it's worse
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than if he was targeting individuals.
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Like, the
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idea that you can't
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I mean, I get it, you can't
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sue him because he's saying that it's
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just a trans person
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but ultimately, that's
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more destructive. That's
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looking at everybody who's trans
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and saying that they're a fucking murderer
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coming from Alex's mouth.
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He's not saying that specifically
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at this point in time, but from his mouth
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that's what it means.
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I think there's a couple things to disentangle
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and one is I kind of
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I kind of agree with you because there is
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a broad target that's being put on
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trans people by this kind of coverage.
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And the sort of
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pseudo-vagueness
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of it. But secondarily,
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Alex does use some very
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clear, distinguishing
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comments that make it
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clear that he is talking specifically
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about Sam.
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That's the person
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whose pictures he's
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talking about.
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The issue is
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that you have both going on.
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And
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I don't know
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I don't know why he would do something
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like this. Well, I mean, I do.
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But I can't imagine
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being so committed to being
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bad at your job that
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you do this. I mean,
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I just don't, you know
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I know
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that the judge is going to
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see that very information as
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soon as possible.
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It probably already has.
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But if you see that now in the middle
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of what he's doing now, don't
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you just say, fuck off. The end.
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It does seem to illustrate
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malice.
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And it seems to illustrate
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continuing
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refusal to
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understand why the things he did initially
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were wrong. Absolutely. But yeah,
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I don't know what kind of impact that has on
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legal cases. I guess
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that will remain to be seen.
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Yeah, if I were him I just probably wouldn't do
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that stuff. You would think.
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But if he didn't
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then his audience would revolt on him.
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He has to, he cannot
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not give a statement about this.
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Oh, but he doesn't need to do this.
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No, he doesn't. No, he does not.
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I think it's a testament to how
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much he
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how highly he values
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his knee-jerk hatreds.
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And being able to express
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them. That
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is something that has a far
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higher value to him
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than being
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responsible. Yeah, I mean it's hard
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it's hard to, you know
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it's hard to keep centering
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your mind at all times. But the
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end goal for all of these people
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is a society where they can just say
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oh, it's a trans person. It's
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trans people's fault. Whenever they fucking want.
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That's what they want. Well
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you know, it's not a fucking
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I think a lot of cases, yeah
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that's true. I think when you're looking
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specifically at Alex's coverage, I think
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it's easier to say like
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that is exactly what he would want to do
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at least
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maybe for other reasons, but at
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least because that's a convenient way for him
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to not talk about that. Sure, absolutely.
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And I think that that's the phenomenon that
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you're going to see even beyond the transphobia
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it's going to be grasping at straws
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trying to find any way to make this
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about something else. And
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that's what he does immediately
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after this. Just trying to find
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other rationalizations.
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Here's the
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takeaway here.
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No one is lessening the deaths of these
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children. And it's terrible
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and I have four children, one of them five years old
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it tears up my guts and makes me
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pissed off. But we have 40
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plus million people that died the last two years
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under globalist lockdowns from starvation.
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We have the new world order launching
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massive wars.
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We have all of the depopulation agenda
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going on. And I predicted
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in fact, cue it up from last week, we'll
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play it come about 30 minutes.
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Alex Jones predicted
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mass shooting at Black grocery
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store. And I said going
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into the midterms, now with
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168 days out, all the
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pre-programming is the terror attacks
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the mass shootings are going to happen. They weren't happening.
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It's so transparent how Alex
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only brings up these talking points about statistics
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about food insecurity in the developing world
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whenever he needs to use them to minimize
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an atrocity that intersects with something
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he cares about. If he needs to complain
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about people wearing masks, then he brings
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up the issue of people starving and presents it
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as something that's been solely caused by
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COVID prevention measures.
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If he needs to minimize the murder of
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19 children in elementary
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school and two teachers, he brings up
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the number of starving people to make that number
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of children look small. He's a
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spineless coward and I would take this a little
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more seriously if he seemed to care about those issues
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relating to food access in the developing
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world when it wasn't just something he was using as
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a shield to not address the issue that he's
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supposed to be covering. Also, I'm
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thrilled to see that Alex has taken credit for calling
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this one even though he made a huge deal out of how
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the Buffalo shooting was what he predicted because he
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said black grocery store. I guess
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if you get to claim that you're some kind of a genius for
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predicting that a school shooting would happen eventually
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then everyone in the world is a genius because
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we all knew it was coming.
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There were dips in the number of school shootings
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and mass shootings in general for a while because
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of COVID lockdowns. There were less
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mass gatherings of people and
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schools were closed in many places.
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That said, there have still been
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plenty of school shootings since 2020.
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The list on Wikipedia
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includes 72 shootings at schools since
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the beginning of 2020.
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Alex's premise is that they've been hyping
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up this idea of school shootings
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in order to get someone to do one because
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it's a copycat crime kind of thing
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that the globalists are trying to incite.
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But that premise is stupid because there have
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been all of these school shootings that have happened that
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weren't hyped up and Alex has no idea
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that they even happened.
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A bunch of them happened in Texas, his home state
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as well, and he still doesn't know.
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For instance, does Alex remember that on October 6,
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2021, a man opened fire at Timberview
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High School in Arlington, Texas,
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injuring four people? I've never heard him
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bring that up. Does Alex remember that
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less than a week before that, a 25-year-old
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dude broke into Yes Prep Southwest
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School in Houston and shot the principal?
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He doesn't remember these things
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because he never heard about them and he didn't cover them.
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The point is that if the media truly
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were hyping up school shootings in the way Alex is
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pretending, there would have been wall-to-wall
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coverage of the tons of school shootings that have happened
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that Alex and most people in the
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country never heard happened because
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this stuff has just kind of become a twisted
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reality of our modern lives.
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As was true in the case of
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Sandy Hook, the horrific nature of what happened
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in Yuvaldi is a severe threat to
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Alex's political ideology, and you
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can see that manifested in how he's responding
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to this with a scattershot
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strategy. There are already
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a ton of excuses he's trying to
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he's trying them out to see what's going to fly.
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He's asserted that the shooter is trans, so if that
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works out for him, he can make this about his transphobic
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narratives instead of about guns.
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He's blamed the media for supposedly
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hyping up shootings, so he can claim that
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this was a case of globalist mind control
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as opposed to being about guns. And if all
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else fails, he's minimized the death toll
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compared to the number of people going without food in the
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developing world, so if he has to, he can
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retreat to that talking point in an attempt to
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pretend that he has the moral high ground.
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Oh, you're upset about 19
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dead kids? What about all the people
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in the developing world without food? Not so
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righteous now, are you?
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It's really transparent how much of a threat
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this is to Alex, and he's behaving accordingly.
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He knows damn well that this is the sort of
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event that has precipitated tighter gun regulation
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in other countries in the past,
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so he has to do a full-court press immediately
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to try and create new narratives about the shooting
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while this cement is still wet.
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And you see it.
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This is graphic
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imagery, but
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I really do think that it's a one-to-one
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comparison, and it's a good
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thought to have in your mind whenever he says
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shit like this, because it is
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fucked up. But whenever he's like,
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listen, I predicted this.
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I'm so smart for predicting
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all of this shit. He is masturbating
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with a dead child's hand.
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That is what's fucking happening.
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It's a little graphic. It's graphic.
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And you know what? That's what it fucking is.
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And he gets to just say it because it's just fucking
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words, you know? You don't see anything.
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It is words to him.
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It's words and self-aggrandizement.
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Absolutely. It's kind of a more macabre
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and disgusting version of the
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sort of classic
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I told you so kind of thing.
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100%.
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No, and it's not
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just I told you so. I would love for it
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to just be an I told you so.
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It is
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a look
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at how great I am.
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Right. Yeah, and
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we did this with the Buffalo shooting.
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We demonstrated how he didn't really
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predict that at all.
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But he did say Black Grocery Store
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in a prediction about
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shootings that were going to happen
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a year ago when the audit of the
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2020 election was going to drop.
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And he doesn't even have that to rely on.
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No, but he had
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that, the optics of that that he
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was working with. And now he's trying
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to apply it to this even though the circumstances
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are totally different. It's all just
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shit. It's just fucked up. Yeah.
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He's just fucked up. He's not a good dude.
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Nope. So
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Alex has another theory about
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what might have caused this
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and this is just
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awful. There are a lot of
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mentally ill people and they see mass shootings
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being hyped up and being pushed and Sandy Hook
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Sandy Hook Sandy Hook
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using my name by the way
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attaching himself to me in the news every
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day and a lot of these psychopaths think
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well that's something I could do.
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Too early to tell. There's a lot of blurred
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stuff going on as this develops.
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That's a disgusting and almost inhuman level
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of narcissism that Alex is displaying.
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He's actually claiming that coverage
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of the lawsuit against him over his claims about
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Sandy Hook may have been part of the reason this
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shooting happened. So if I understand
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correctly people shouldn't have sued Alex because
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that'll end up causing coverage of the reason he's
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being sued and then mentally ill people will hear
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about this mass shooting and think I should do that.
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Is that the argument that he's
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making? Yep. That's ridiculous.
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I believe his argument is stop hitting
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yourself, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting
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yourself. Well really this mass shooting
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happened because you're persecuting me.
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Yeah, man. What? I am going to
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abuse you as much as
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humanly possible and then blame
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you for the outcome. I
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really just don't understand
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how
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you can see things and
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insist they're about you in
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such a disgusting fashion. It's
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I
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It's amazing. Yeah, yeah.
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Not in a good way. No. It amazes.
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No, it really, you know, it
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is something that when we talk to
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John Ronson, you know,
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he brought up that idea of like
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what are we
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judging Alex based upon?
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You know, like we're judging him
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based upon human society and
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he doesn't belong there, you
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know, period. So
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he just lives by a completely
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different set of
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existence, you know? I still
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go back to that moment when we were talking to him
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when he asked if
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Alex repeats himself.
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And I said yes.
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And Ronson seemed
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disappointed to hear that.
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And I felt, I think about
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that a bit because like, you know,
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John Ronson is somebody who knows Alex.
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Of course. You know, presumably has some
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familiarity with him and even for him it was
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kind of a deflating idea
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that Alex doesn't just, nope,
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you know, it's not off the dome, it's not
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brand new every time, it's just the same
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bullshit over and over and over
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again. Yeah, it's like seeing a
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riff comedian multiple times and you
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realize, oh, they do the same
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kind of thing every time.
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And, you know, anyway,
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Alex has another
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theory about why the
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shooting's happening. Sure, sure.
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One, two, not enough. No, we gotta have like
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a whole bunch. Forty, fifty. We've got
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the world government UN treaty taking place,
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we've got the borders collapsing, thousands dying
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every few months down there, no news coverage
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to speak of, and now we have this.
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All I know is, we're in the season
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of the midterms
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and right on time, the
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psychopath strike. What do you
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think's going on, Owen Schroyer?
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So there's a lot going through my head right now
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and let's
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bring up the midterms that are coming up
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which you just mentioned. I have no
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doubt that this is going to
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be used to promote Beto
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O'Rourke here, running for governor
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against Abbott. I have no doubt. Beto O'Rourke
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is pretty much running a losing campaign
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right now. He can barely
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fill a high school
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auditorium, really
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not even an auditorium, like a classroom. He can't even
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fill a high school classroom. And so
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they need something to promote Beto in
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Texas. Yeah, so this is about the
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midterms somehow.
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I feel like it's still
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pretty early in this emergency
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special report and we're
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speculating that
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this has some connection to
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midterm elections.
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I mean, wow.
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This is what I'm kind of talking about when we
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like, our last episode, the Project Camelot
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one, we're talking about the
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merging of conspiracy and politics.
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Yep. Like, it's just
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What the fuck are you doing? Yeah.
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What the fuck are you honestly doing?
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Yeah. Like, deep down
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What the fuck are you doing?
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Yeah. So Alex has been building up
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kind of this idea that there weren't
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these shootings. There weren't shootings happening
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and now the midterm's happening
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and all of a sudden
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Sure, sure, sure. Here are our shootings. So he's saying
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that we didn't live in America for the past two years.
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Well, he's pretending. Yeah. And then Owen
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kind of deflates that. There's so
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many different angles, Alex, when I look at this.
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Okay, so we've had over
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200 mass shootings in this country
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in the year 2022 alone.
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200 mass shootings, but only two of them
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have made the media the national press
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and that's the one in Buffalo most recently
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and then, of course, this one today in Texas.
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That's right. When it's Asian on Asian or
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black on Asian, no coverage. So
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here, Owen accidentally deflates Alex's
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entire narrative about hyping up mass shootings.
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If there have been over 200 of
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them and there's only been major media coverage
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of two, that tends to make the
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argument that the media's actually downplaying
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mass shootings. Alex kind of
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realizes that that's the point that you would draw from
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this conversation, so he throws out a distraction
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point about how he feels that shootings done by non-white
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people don't get coverage. Yep.
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Again, this is literally the fraudulent talking point
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that Dylann Roof cited as being his radicalization
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point towards carrying out
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the Charleston shootings. Alex should probably
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stop repeating it all the time.
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Owen's lying, or has no idea
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what he's talking about here. There
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has been media coverage of other shootings
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this year. Owen is also playing
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games here because he knows exactly why
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there's been more media attention as it relates
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to the Buffalo and Uvalde shootings.
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Firstly, of all the mass
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shootings that have occurred this year, these
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are the two with the highest death tolls
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by a considerable amount.
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Second, they are the shootings that have particularly
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horrific characteristics that make
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them more painful to the general population.
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In the instance of Buffalo,
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there was a shooter who was a white nationalist
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who set out to carry this shooting
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out, specifically to kill black
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people. In the case of Uvalde,
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though there weren't many details
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available when Owen's on air, it was a fucking
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elementary school, and they knew
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that at least 18 children had been murdered.
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Owen knows these dynamics perfectly
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well, but he's pretending not to in order
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to make it suspicious that these two shootings
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have gotten more attention and imply that
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it has something to do with the midterms.
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This is unacceptable behavior, and Owen
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should be deeply ashamed of himself for this kind of coverage.
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The reason they act like this is
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because this story and stories like
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this threaten their basic, far-right
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ideology on almost every level, so
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they have to attack that reality when these stories
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exist at all costs.
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And that's why they're sort
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of warping reality around
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the way they are.
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It's shit.
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I mean, you know,
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it is also one of those things
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where it doesn't matter
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what happens. That is
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going to stay the same. I kind of
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don't even understand why they bother with
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finding alternate explanations
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as opposed to just saying, you know what,
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yeah, it's guns' fault, but we love guns so
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much that we're going to let your kids die whenever they
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die. You know?
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I wonder if that would play.
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Well, I mean, I don't know why not.
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Everybody knows it.
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Hmm. I think
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that maybe you don't
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have, I don't know if you
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have a great handle on maybe the
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psychology of some of the
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people who are more drawn towards
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Alex's world. Yeah, I mean,
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well, obviously denial is a state
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of existence that you have to enjoy if you
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don't live in reality with the rest
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of us. Even if you do live in reality
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a certain amount of denial is necessary to
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make it through. Well, yeah.
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I think that
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what you're saying
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is a blunt thing that
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I don't know if I could argue
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that it would dramatically
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change things, but I
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don't think that that's a mentality
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that even a lot of
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these supporters of Alex's show would sign on to.
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Yeah. Yeah, maybe not.
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Maybe not. I think that's- And they'd have to get to it
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gradually. Well, you know, I think it's
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just something that we don't want to find out yet.
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You know, I think they would rather not find
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out if that's gonna fly just yet.
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Maybe. You're deep into hypothetical here.
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I am deep into hypothetical. We're in speculation
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territory for me real hard, so.
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But, I mean, while we're in speculation territory
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Owen really thinks that this
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is the midterm issue. Jesus.
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Which is, see, this is where it's kind
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of like, alright,
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this is a non-cancerous point that you're making.
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Right. The timing's weird.
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Right. I don't know if you need to be making this
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point tonight. Right.
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But, like, for Owen to be like,
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alright, this shooting happened,
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politically this is going to be
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something that Democratic candidates
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can use. I think that's
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a descriptive kind of reality.
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Yeah. I don't think that
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necessarily
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that's, like,
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I don't think it has a lot of meaning.
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I don't think that night is
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the time necessarily where it
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has the most value to discuss.
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But it's not the same as a lot of the other
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conspiracy theorizing that's
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going on. And so that's kind of
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where Owen's head's at.
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And I feel that really
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it goes beyond the racial lines
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with this. I think that they're
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really drumming up the mass shootings
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as a news story here before the midterms
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because the Democrats have nothing,
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Alex. I mean, we have to remember it's a midterm
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election year. Democrats politicize
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everything to try to get people to vote.
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So, I mean, look at all the things they've tried. They've tried
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racism.
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They've tried the
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abortion issue. They've tried Ukraine.
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It's all failed. It's all flopped.
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So now they're going to try the gun thing.
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I think that this is their next big push to let's find
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an issue that we can
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use people to go out and vote on.
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And I think that now it's going to be the gun issue
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or at least they're going to try it. What about the leading
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cause of death amongst middle-aged
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men being fentanyl, which is all
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thanks to the open border? Or 25
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U.S. veterans committing suicide a day.
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Almost zero
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coverage. So we're totally sad for what
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happened. It's a terrible thing, but
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they know statistically they hype up mass
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shootings and hype up mass shootings in
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elementary schools, other areas.
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Crazy people are going to go do it. So you can kind
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of see the difference in the
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sort of base perspective that they're giving.
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Owen is talking about the coverage
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that will happen after the fact.
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Alex is saying that coverage
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of things caused it.
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And there is a difference
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I don't know how meaningful it is,
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but whatever. And you can see
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though, I think almost maybe more importantly
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these guys can't address this news story
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without creating a completely separate
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issue to use as a prop. 100%
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Owen can't talk about the shooting. He has to cover
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the story by speculating that the Democrats are going to
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use guns as a campaign issue in the midterms.
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This isn't an emergency report about
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the shooting. It's an emergency report attempting
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to get out in front of whatever coverage
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other outlets end up doing about the shooting.
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It's damage control more than
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anything. And that's something you see
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again from Alex, where he and Owen are coming
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up with other things that have higher death
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tolls than this shooting in an attempt to minimize
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the horror of what had happened hours
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earlier. I weirdly don't
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hear them bring up COVID death tolls here,
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but I guess that's just not the brand. Also
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there's plenty of media coverage of suicides
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among enlisted persons and fentanyl
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deaths. Maybe there could be more investigation
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of the first one, but it's
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not something that people are just ignoring.
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If you really want to do this shit, I can show
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you how pathetic this game is really easily.
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If your interest is just in minimizing
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the number of deaths occurred, you could
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say that there were 21 people
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killed here, and yes, that's really sad, but
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between 2010 and 2020
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an average of 39 people die
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each year in the United States while skiing.
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And you never hear the media talk about that.
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Sure, it's
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a fact, but it's also not relevant
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to the matter at hand, and it's something you'd only
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bring up if you were actively trying to get your audience
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to be less horrified by the
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horrific shooting that had just happened.
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And that's the game they're playing.
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Yeah, you would only
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bring up in a conversation
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about the Holocaust how many people
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Stalin killed if you really wanted to
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let people know you were on Hitler's team.
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Yep. So,
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Alex is clearly
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very interested in the pictures,
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the hoax pictures of the shooter.
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Of course. He will end up bringing this up
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constantly.
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And coming up in a few minutes, I'll start putting him on screen,
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the reported shooter
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who's now been killed, first they said he'd been captured,
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I know driving in I sent you guys some of the images
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of him in dresses
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and all the rest of this stuff,
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but you're not going to see any of that
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in the corporate media.
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Yeah, and I'm sure we'll find out more
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about this individual and obviously
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the individual is extremely deranged,
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just how deranged we'll have to find out.
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I think that Alex thinks
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that he's playing it safe by saying
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the reported shooter.
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I don't think that helps here.
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No. You reported him
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as the shooter, not the reported
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shooter. You are reporting
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that he is the shooter.
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And you found these pictures
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prior to coming in, you sent them to your staff,
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we know what's going on here.
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Yup. So Owen actually
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I think probably has some
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instincts to not dwell on the pictures
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that much. Maybe
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he's aware of the Kit Daniels lawsuit.
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Could be. Maybe. Could be.
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He wants to talk mostly about
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psych meds, but Alex
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is on the other side of this.
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We'll never know the truth about all the
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pharmaceutical pills that this individual
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was on because the mainstream media is funded by
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Big Pharma, so you're not allowed to talk about that
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And let's continue to go through those photos, let's
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enlarge those, let's put those on screen please.
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But you know Alex, here's
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before they take it down, let's talk
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about knee-jerk reaction here.
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So interesting that Owen is complaining
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there about the media making knee-jerk reactions
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because in that 18 second clip there were
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quite a few knee-jerk reactions
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being made by Alex and Owen.
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The first is that Owen is asserting that we'll
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never know what drugs the shooter was on because
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the media is funded by Big Pharma so they don't
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talk about it. In order to make this claim
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Owen has to make the knee-jerk assumption that
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the shooter in fact was on pharmaceutical
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drugs, something that he has no evidence
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of and has decided must be true because
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that's his narrative about shootings.
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He also asserted that the media covers that stuff
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up because of their funding sources so
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even if it never comes out that the shooter was on drugs
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Owen can still cling to that knee-jerk
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reaction because the lack of evidence
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coming out really only confirms the power
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of the cover-up. Alex is
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making a further knee-jerk reaction where he's
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decided that this trans woman who is the
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victim of a 4chan hoax is the shooter
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because he's desperate to take advantage of
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every opportunity to demonize trans
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people. He says, quote,
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Let's continue to go through those photos. Let's
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enlarge those. Let's put those on
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screen please before they take it down.
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Alex is making a knee-jerk
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assumption that these photos
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depict the correct suspect and that there will
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be a cover-up of these photos because the media
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doesn't want people to know that the suspect was
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trans. These ideas that Alex
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and Owen are disseminating aren't just
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inaccurate. What they're doing is creating
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a completely false reality for the audience
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to understand the shooting within.
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It's really fucked up to see how so
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much of the behavior they're engaging in mirrors
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past coverage they've done that's gotten them
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sued. And I suspect the reason for
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that is because they never needed to learn a
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lesson from those lawsuits. They always
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knew what they were doing was wrong.
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That's the premise that I'm
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starting to kind of feel
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is that questioning whether a lesson
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has been learned is almost pointless. Irrelevant.
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Yeah, because they never needed to learn.
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They know this is bad.
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It's evil. Yes.
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They're bad people who know they're bad
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but they get a lot of money for it so
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they are fine with it. I want to start doing
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one thing and I want to push back on you saying
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evil. Only because I want to try
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and sort of wash that
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from our... Remove the
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good evil morality
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continuum as a thought process. I think
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some morality certainly can come into it
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but I don't know. I
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feel like I want to
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banish that from our thinking.
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Even though some things could be
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descriptively thought of as evil. Sure.
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Alex has all this demon shit and I just
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want to make sure... Right, right, right.
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Sick to science. Not science
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but no
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ethereal
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ideas about
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angels and demons. Yes, okay. Let me throw
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it out at you this way. His behaviors
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as well as theirs are unilaterally
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destructive and hurtful.
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Sure. Now you're getting
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close to Stefan Molyneux. There we go.
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Universally preferable behaviors.
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God damn it!
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Okay, alright.
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Ooh, they
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just really like to hurt people.
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It seems like it's profitable for
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them and they don't care. Yep.
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So Owen has a suggestion
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and a theory. Nobody
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wants this. I don't want kids
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to go to school with armed
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guards outside. Believe me, I
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don't want that but I'll tell you this
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I'd rather have schools with
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armed guards outside than a
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situation like we had in Uvalde, Texas
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where we've had 18. Well that's really it and
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just like Adam Lanza and
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Sandy Hook, it's another
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in-cell
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I mean put those up from his Twitter
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before they take them down. I mean there's the dude
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to skirt, there's the dude who he is
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and this is reportedly
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what's going on.
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So again and again
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we have deranged, make that full
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screen please, we have deranged
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crazy people. So that
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skirt identification is
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kind of important because of the main pictures
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that were going around, there's
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only one person whose pictures were
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involving a skirt or a dress.
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Okay. And so you can tell what
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he's talking about
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pretty clearly. Alright. There is an
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Instagram picture of the
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actual shooter and that
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is not someone in a dress. Right.
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Sabrina was the other trans
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person who was misidentified
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in the larger
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sort of hoax
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plot. Yeah. And they
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weren't shown, like
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it was just a face. Yeah. In a bottle
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holding up. And so
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like this is very clearly
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talking about this Sam person. Right.
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Well Sam has, there are two lawyers
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Sam needs to get in contact with.
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I
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yeah, I don't know if it's actionable
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but it's definitely the intent of what
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Alex is doing. Oh yeah. Is pointing to this
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hoax. Yep. So
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Alex is a little
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bit of a baby philosophy lesson he
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wants to give. And this is just
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stupid. We have deranged
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crazy people
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and that's the reason we
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have guns. I mean Owen right here is a dagger.
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Military dagger.
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And I'm obviously really love you
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and you're a great guy. I'm not going to attack you with it.
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But if I got up right now and hypothetically
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with this dagger
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that is in my hand and I
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stabbed you with this dagger
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it is not the dagger's fault
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that this took place.
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It is my fault whether I
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used a car to run people over
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or whether I used a baseball bat or gasoline
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to burn a building down. It is not the fault
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of the dagger that could be in the hands of a good
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or bad person. It is the fault
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of the psychopaths.
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And the psychopaths are being bred by this
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system and they're just pouring out
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like a cancer. Well and that's what it is.
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It's the godless society. It's the lack
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of morals in society. It's the
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chemicals and the drugs forcing
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kids into depression. It's the hopelessness
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of the new world order. It's true enough
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that it's not the knife's fault that Owen got
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stabbed in that hypothetical but this is
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logic for babies. No one's
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blaming the gun in the sense that the gun
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itself has any moral consideration
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in the situation. The argument is
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that with easy access to very powerful
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guns the people who are inclined to hurt other people
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can do so much easier.
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Alex is basically highlighting that
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by using the knife example here.
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Generally speaking someone with a knife is not
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going to be able to pull off a mass casualty event
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because people are more likely to be able to
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and be successful in intervening.
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Further people are less likely to kill random
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people with a knife because it requires proximity
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to the person whereas shooting someone
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allows the killer to have a feeling of distance.
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Like imagine a knife gun.
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We would probably not...
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That would be just as big of a problem as a gun.
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Yep.
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This is an idea that Alex has expressed enough
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that the audience just kind of nods and accepts it
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but it's kind of dumb and it's dumb intentionally.
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This is deflection, not a meaningful
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argument. He knows that.
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If he wants to make
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it a meaningful argument, if they want to
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make it a meaningful argument then what they're
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really trying to grapple with is that a
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male dominated society produces
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a shit ton of violence against women
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and that the overwhelming
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number
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of these shooters is
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driven almost
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ultimately bottomly
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and deeply by misogyny.
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Well, that is a piece of
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information that probably isn't known
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about this shooter at the time that they're on
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air but it is something that's known about
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all shooters. A trend.
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And yeah, I think that that is also
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secondarily along with guns.
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Another issue,
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the idea of domestically violent
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men. Yeah, I mean if you wanted to tell
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me that we don't get gun control
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except men don't get to have guns
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that probably would be better
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than gun control.
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I think you're going to run into some trouble there but
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I definitely think there's something to be said for
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more oversight
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of people who have had accusations about
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domestic violence and things like that
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limiting access to weapons.
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There's a
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lot that could be done in terms of harm
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reduction from that front.
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But look,
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the Dems, they want your guns.
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I can't believe that the Democrats
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are at all involved
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with anything that's going on.
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We've all given up
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on all of them.
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Who gives a fuck? Well, you still need a
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bad guy if you're Alex and
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Owen. Sure, I guess. That's the other
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political party so it's the best
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ghost to point to.
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But anyway, the Democrats want your guns.
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Our politicians, but let's call it
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what it is. It's the Democrats.
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They're calling to take your guns.
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Surely you're going to be hearing it for the next 48 hours
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or all week long. They're going to call to
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take your firearms. But oh, the
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Democrats, when they feel threatened, what do they
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get? They get armed security.
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Nancy Pelosi calls for automatic gun
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turrets, machine gun
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turrets outside of the Capitol
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because she feels threatened. But oh, at the schools,
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oh, at your house, oh, at your
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church, oh, at your business, they don't
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want you to have a gun. You don't get the
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protection, but they get the state
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funded, taxpayer funded
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protection of firearms that
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they want to take away from us, Alex.
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This is the same fucking tune these dudes play every
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time there's a shooting. The Dems are out to get
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your guns, just you wait. Tomorrow there's
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going to be confiscations. Every single
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time and then nothing happens.
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They build up entire world views on the
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insistence and fear that a gun grab
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is coming right around the corner and because
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it never happens, they reap the rewards
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of their extremism, pretending that
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it's in defense of liberty, but in fact
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it's just a vice. That
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story about Nancy Pelosi probably isn't
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true. It was based on a comment made
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by Ken Cuccinelli, who is
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a guy who Trump appointed to government
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positions illegally twice.
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He's an astounding piece of shit who
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while Attorney General of Virginia was a
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proponent of sodomy laws, mostly
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motivated by a belief that homosexuality
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is against nature. Sure. He was
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also the subject of a scandal at the end of his
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time serving as a deputy
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in Trump's Department of Homeland Security.
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Brian Murphy, who is the head of the DHS's
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Intelligence Branch, came out
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as a whistleblower saying that senior officials
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had instructed him to alter intelligence
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assessments. From the New York Times
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quote, the department's second
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highest ranking official, Kenneth T.
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Cuccinelli, ordered Mr. Murphy to modify
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intelligence assessments to make the
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threat of white supremacy appear less
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severe and include information on
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violent left-wing groups and antifa.
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If you read the report Mr.
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Murphy filed, it's really outrageous.
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Here's another thing that Cuccinelli
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was said to have done. Quote,
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in December 2019, Mr. Murphy
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attended a meeting with Misters Cuccinelli
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and Glau to discuss
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intelligence reports regarding conditions in
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Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador.
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The intelligence reports were designed
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to help asylum officers render
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better determinations regarding their legal
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standards. Mr. Murphy's
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team at the DHS Intelligence
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Agency completed the
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intelligence reports and presented them
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to Mr. Cuccinelli in the meeting.
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Mr. Murphy defended the work in his
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reports, but Mr. Cuccinelli stated he wanted
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changes to the information outlining
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high levels of corruption, violence,
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and poor economic conditions in these three
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respective countries. Mr. Cuccinelli
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expressed frustration with the intelligence
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reports, and he accused unknown
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deep state intelligence analysts
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of compiling the intelligence information
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to undermine President Donald J.
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Trump's policy objectives with
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respect to asylum.
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So, sure, people who
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may be in favor of tighter gun regulation
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may also have armed security for themselves.
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That's fair enough, but it doesn't mean
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anything. Armed security guards are
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licensed, and it's not like armed
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security guards are just random people
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that someone knows who happens to have guns.
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You don't get a posse together as your armed security.
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No. As for the stuff about Pelosi wanting
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machine guns, I'm not going to believe anything
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that Cuccinelli says without proof, but
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I guess that's enough for Owen. A raving
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asshole who wants to outlaw being gay
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said this thing, so it must be true.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Also, I really don't care. Ted Nugent doesn't
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allow guns at his concerts, so fuck off.
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Fuck you. Fuck off. You're
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done. Fuck you. Well, we'll get to Ted Nugent
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a little bit later. See, that's what I know. I know
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that it's coming up, and it's just a huge
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fuck you that you're going to say that
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and 20 minutes
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before, ah, fuck off.
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Fucking, ugh.
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It's just, why doesn't
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reality get a say?
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Not even, like, one say on
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the show. Well, because it's info
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wars. I know, but, like, it should have, like,
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one little moment. There should be, like,
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a little flashing light that's just going,
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like, oh, surprise, this is bullshit.
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It's just something. Just some representation
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that reality is there. Alex gets a movie sign.
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Yes, absolutely. He gets
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dragged into a back room where the truth
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is told. There are four doors that close around. Yes, something.
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Yeah, that's not going to happen.
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Nope. Anyway, the shooter was a crazy leftist.
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Another deranged, crazy
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leftist
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that, if you believe
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the official story and they're changing every five minutes,
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just went and killed
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21 people,
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18 children at an elementary school.
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What type of demon
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is being chased by the police and thinks,
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okay, I'll just
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turn into this parking lot and
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I'll go into a school and kill a bunch of small children.
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I mean, this is all,
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and again, was this happening a year ago, two years
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ago? No.
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It was a pause.
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And now,
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suddenly, ladies and gentlemen,
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with 168
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days from the midterms,
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just like we predicted, it's now
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happening. I don't know what Alex even means
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by leftist anymore, so this kind of
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falls flat for me in terms of how you'd even respond
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to that. We know that
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the shooter was a horrific misogynist and threatened
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to rape and murder a bunch of women over the
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social media app Yubo, but
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that's not behavior that's necessarily
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specific to the left or right. Nope.
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We know that he bought multiple guns and seems to
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really like guns a lot. Gun ownership
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is certainly not specific to right-wing folks,
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but they are the ones who are more consistently
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preoccupied with guns.
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From the available information, I don't know if
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it would be appropriate to try and nail down any
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political ideology that the shooter ascribed to,
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and it would be even further as a leap
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to attribute the shooting to any particular
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political motivation. More information
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may come out on that front in time, but
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as it stands now, Alex is just making
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that up in order to lump the shooter in with his
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political enemies. And honestly, it's probably
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mostly based on the hoax pictures of
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trans women that he got from 4chan.
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That's probably what he's basing this on.
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Also, you again have Alex implying that the
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shooting has something to do with the midterms.
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In order for what he's saying to mean anything,
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you really have to believe that he's implying
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some kind of foreknowledge on the part of
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the Democrats or Globalists, or even that
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they caused the shooting.
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Alex is saying that there was a lull in mass shootings
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and then now magically, just before the midterm,
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they're happening again, but even Owen has contradicted
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that narrative already, pointing out that there
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have been over 200 mass shootings already in
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2022. According to the
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Gun Violence Archive, there were 692
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mass shootings in 2021 and
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610 in 2020.
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These numbers actually represent an increase
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over previous years, with 417
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in 2019 and 336
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in 2018.
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And one of the things that is
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kind of complicating
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about this is the specific criteria
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of what constitutes a mass shooting.
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And so you have a lot of these,
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but in terms of things
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like the school shooting
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that happened in Uvalde,
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there are less of that
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kind of an event perhaps because
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schools were closed for a period.
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So there is, you could
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argue, a dip in a sense.
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But in terms of
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gross numbers of mass shootings,
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there's not been, there's actually been an increase.
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Alex is just making up the idea
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that there haven't been mass shootings because he doesn't
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know or care, and acting like
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this is a thing that just mysteriously started happening
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again before the midterms allows him to get
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his audience to think it was probably fake
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without him having to take the responsibility of
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saying it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a
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proven track record, so now he can just
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kind of point to, hey,
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you remember when I said all this stuff? I'm pointing
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to saying that stuff, but I'm not saying
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it anymore because I might get sued.
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Although I fucking am saying it. Fuck it.
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Who cares? Nobody gives a shit. Alex does
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make it abundantly clear that he believes
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the shooting happened and the people died.
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So we do have that. Sure.
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But he is also playing fast
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and loose with, is this
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orchestrated, is it a false flag
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kind of stuff. So, it's just
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that gross, middle ground
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bullshit that means nothing. No, it's not the
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Sandy Hook case, it's the Marcel Fontaine case.
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So Alex,
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you know, Owen is hosting with him, and
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his drum that he is beating
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is pills.
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Psych meds, pharmaceuticals.
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Great. Well, you can go back
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into the 70s
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and you still had rifle
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classes at the average high school
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and you had high school students bringing
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guns to school. They would bring their rifles
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and keep it in a locker. That was normal behavior
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and it wasn't considered a threat. And nobody was
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shooting anybody. Because you didn't have a bunch of kids on
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pills. And Alex, here's my fear because
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Suicide and mass murder pills. And here's
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my fear because there seems to be mystery
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still about the whole grandma aspect
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and then the odd thing where he runs away, crashes
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his car, runs into the school. I've
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seen firsthand, I've experienced this
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from friends of mine, where
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they'll start
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taking the pharmaceutical pills
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and it doesn't even matter what kind.
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I mean, it's Xanax, Ritalin, like there's
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all kinds of different, it's all the same stuff.
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I've witnessed in my own friends group
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before, where friends of
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mine who never were on
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the psychotropic drugs
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in high school, never exhibited any
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odd behavior, we got into college
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they started taking the psychotropic
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drugs because the doctors
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prescribed it to them in college. Seems to be
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a trend. It's like half of college students are on
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these pills now. And
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immediately I noticed destructive behavior.
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But what it is, is that it's like a tumbling
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effect. So it's like they'll do
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one thing destructive and then
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they'll do another thing and it's like there's
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It escalates. And it just gets worse
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and it gets worse and it gets worse and there's like a numbing
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effect and then it just gets worse and worse
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and worse. That's what we have is an evil problem.
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I have articles today I covered where they're
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passing bills to kill babies a couple weeks
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after they're born and then we wonder why
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people do things like this.
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Real quick, people aren't trying to kill babies after they're born
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and even if they were, I don't see how that's connected
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to this shooting. Is Alex trying to
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suggest that the shooter was motivated by an
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anger about abortion? Or is this just
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a spiritual thing where because there's abortions
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in the United States, this evil has been visited
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upon us. Yeah, it's just in the air.
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Either way, that's stupid.
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And compare these numbers
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to other countries where abortion is available
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you'd think that there would be shootings all
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the time like there is here. Well that would be
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the logical... And then you'd have to say that
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countries where abortion is outright banned
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would probably be the most prosperous
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Zero mass shootings, complete
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victory in accordance
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with God's wishes and so they are protected
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from all harm. Like Iraq. Yeah.
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So the argument Owen
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is trying to make here based on his experience
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in college is that the shooter was on
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these psychotropic drugs which apparently have a
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tumbling effect where you do one destructive thing
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and then you do another. So the
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thinking here is that he shot his grandmother
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and then the tumble was that he shot up this
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school. That's a fun fantasy
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for Owen, but in reality the shooter had sent
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messages on Facebook prior to leaving his house
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about his plan to shoot his grandmother and then
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shoot people at the school. Also there's
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literally no evidence that the shooter was on psych meds
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and you get a pretty strong sense that he almost
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certainly was not when you consider his living
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situation and how unlikely that
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it would be that he would have access to
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mental health care. Also psych meds
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don't cause the behavior that Owen is describing.
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He just had a friend who had some
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problems and he's blaming medication for
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it instead of trying to look at the broader picture
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because he's dumb and he needs something to
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blame for this tragedy other than guns and
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domestically violent men and so this
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is the outcome that you get. You demonize
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certain vulnerable communities,
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you demonize the idea of
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appropriate mental health care and
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I don't know. Seems dumb.
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Seems bad. Seems dangerous. You know it's not
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a clever observation
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but it does seem to be one that is
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impossible in America
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but if you don't deal with
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the root cause of a problem
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then you're only going to create more
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problems and exacerbate the root cause
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of the problem. True.
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And that's what America is.
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And Alex facilitates. Exactly.
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Yeah. So there's one thing I
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agree with Alex about
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and it's meaningless but
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Alex does say that this shooting
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looks suspicious. And
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based on some of the details about the police
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and their response
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I agree. Some stuff that's
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suspicious here. I think the
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suspicions that Alex and I have might
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diverge a bit. Sure. But I'm just
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going to give that as a meaningless
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tip of the cap. Yes. We agree
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that there's some suspicious variables. They're fair.
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The globalists have lost
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the gun control debate. People understand
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that because there are psychopaths
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like this
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is the reason we need guns
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is the reason we need to protect ourselves.
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And I'm sorry. Big public schools
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elementary schools for these
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demons are now targets. Just like I said
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you're going to see a white supremacist attack
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on a black grocery store because you can see
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the pre-programming. You can pick it up.
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You can see where it's going. Whoever's behind it
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how do we predict that? And the answer
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is we've done our studying. And this whole thing is very
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suspicious with the midterms
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coming up. And all of them are on
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psychotropics. You take the guy
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from the Parkland shooting dozens of
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times said he was going to kill people.
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Because his last name was Cruz
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they couldn't arrest him because
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of a George Soros
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appointed district attorney or
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elected district attorney. And we're not saying
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it didn't happen. We're saying they let
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him do it. And it's the same story
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over and over again. One of the things that really
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sucks is that because of the police response and
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the way that the story shifted over the days immediately
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after the shooting Alex's consistent
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narrative about these things becomes a little
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bit easier for people to accept.
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Whenever he's not feeling very ambitious
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and doesn't want to make too bold of a statement
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Alex will always say that the police order to stand
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down surrounding events like mass shootings.
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He says that all the time
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and he's always making it up, but because of
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the particular details of this police response
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he may be able to convince some people
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that he's got the goods on this one.
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Well, they did order a stand down. Not really
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in the way that Alex
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uses the term.
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Again, this will be more of an issue
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for future episodes.
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But the reason that I bring it
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up now is because Alex isn't saying that
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on the immediate day
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of when, ironically
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considering that this
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would have been the one time
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where the optics of it and the things
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surrounding it make the argument of
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what Alex means by
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a stand down.
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Maybe even more the colloquial
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meaning of a stand down as opposed
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to Alex's specific meaning of
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a stand down. The idea that
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the cops ordered don't do
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anything, that is what we are
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talking about. Alex is talking about
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the cops ordered we don't do anything because
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the globalist told us to so we can get
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as many kids dead so then we get gun control
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or whatever the fuck it is.
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And those are
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differences that we'll definitely get more
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into detail in a future episode.
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All that being said, Alex is basically
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wrong about everything he's saying in that clip.
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Shooters aren't always on psychotropic
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drugs, there's no evidence that this shooter was
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and while Nicholas Cruz had taken
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meds in the past, there's no evidence that
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he had for approximately a year before the
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shooting. This is a standard talking point
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that gun fanatics use to derail conversations
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about shootings but it's not based in reality.
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The Broward County
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State Attorney is currently Harold Pryor
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but he was elected in 2020. Prior
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to that the office was filled by Michael Satz.
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The narrative that Alex is going off
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of is about how Soros is paying to get
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prosecutors and DA's put in office
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who will follow his instructions but with
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Satz, that doesn't make sense since
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he'd been in that office since
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1976.
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Alex also has a talking point about how they couldn't
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arrest Nicholas Cruz because he had a Hispanic
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last name but this is just Alex being racist.
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In reality, this
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is referring to the fact that in middle school
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Cruz had been, he'd vandalized
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a school bathroom and
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instead of getting arrested he was referred to an
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alternative disciplinary program called
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PROMISE. The basic idea of it
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was to take students who do things that are bad but
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not super bad and make sure that their
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mistake doesn't bring them into the criminal justice
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system. Cruz never completed
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that program but the fact that he was sent to this
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instead of getting arrested for a misdemeanor
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vandalism charge has nothing to do with the
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shooting and has nothing to do with his last
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name. This is just a racist story
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Alex has come up with to weave a compelling story
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for his audience who are always hungry for
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racist stories. And that's
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that's
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one of the things that he throws around a lot
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and it's bullshit.
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Yep. Everything that he has surrounding
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shootings basically is all bullshit.
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Yeah it's all bullshit and it's self-aggrandizing
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and it's contributing
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to the problem. I mean you're
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demonizing
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neuro-atypical people
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and trying to keep them from getting medication
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you're demonizing
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just
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wide swaths
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of anybody who just doesn't want to
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own shit tons of guns.
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And then at the end of it you're saying
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like we gotta keep guns so
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and you're putting more cops in
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schools increasing the risk
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of a shooting. And you're creating
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an atmosphere
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where discussion of
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sensible
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gun regulations that aren't
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everybody's guns are going to be taken
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you can't buy a gun ever again.
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That kind of conversation
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is more likely to lead to
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outbreaks of violence.
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Because of the
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tenor of the conversation that happens
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on Alex's show. Yep. Because of the
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sensationalization of this coverage
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the prospect of making progress
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towards a better status quo
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where people can stay armed
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responsibly and we
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make it more difficult for people who
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have a propensity or
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are more likely to commit violent
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crimes with the guns
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I have a harder time getting it. That will
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the conversation surrounding that
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will just end up with people being like
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over my dead body. Right. Well it's
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important to look
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at the way that they talk about this
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and if you think about the NRA
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the NRA and its behaviors
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are identical to
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fucking
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Philip Morris or whatever when smoking
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was going on. Whatever we know
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if you get us any
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regulations towards smoking
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then we feel like it's going to go away forever.
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So we have to go as crazy as we can.
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You can't smoke on a
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plane. They went fucking apeshit
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over all of that stuff because if you get one
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little thing in there then they're worried
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about that. And do you know why they were aware
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of that? Because it killed people and
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they fucking knew it. Well and
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people who were actually
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opposed to sort of
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some of those restrictions about
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smoking once they actually came
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into effect I think were for them. Yep.
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You know like I remember when I lived in
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Columbia, Missouri when they were having
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an indoor smoking ban
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and I remember I went to the bar
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I always used to go to East Side Tavern
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you know you could smoke inside it was great
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you know you'd get drunk you'd do karaoke
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and you'd smoke. Yeah. And
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I remember being very hostile towards the
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idea of a smoking ban. Sure. I have to go outside
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and then six months later
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I loved it. I loved it.
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It was so much better. Oh my god I can breathe
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inside this fucking bar. Why was I smoking
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inside like an idiot? Right.
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Right. And I couldn't see that possibility
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because I was
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holding on to my absolutism
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about being able to have a drink
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and a smoke. I should be able to do it.
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Right. And I think that that's
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part of the reason why these
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industries may be worried about
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some. Absolutely. Because people might realize
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oh we prefer it on the other side of this. Yeah.
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Of course. And again it's because
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they know they're killing people.
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That's why they're so fucking angry
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and trying to stop any kind of adjustment.
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It's because they know
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beyond a reasonable doubt
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they are murderers.
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Perhaps. Yeah. So here's
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Owen saying some dumb shit.
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Well and it just becomes a
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really it becomes a media phenomenon where
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they just pick and choose which shootings
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that they want to cover and which ones they don't.
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They could not cover this at all and most people
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would have no idea it happened. That's what
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happens with 99% of mass shootings in this
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country is they don't cover it
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and so nobody knows it happens. But then they
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pick and choose the ones they want to cover and obviously
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politicized. But there's one solution I mean
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there is only one solution to this Alex
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and that is you have to have armed security.
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That's just the fact. I don't like that.
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If you've got a big church or you've got a
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college or a school there has to be armed
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security everywhere. This is just next level
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stupid. Like I wonder if Owen can think of
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any situation where there was a shooting in the US
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where a bunch of elementary school kids were murdered
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and the media didn't cover it.
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So we have just no idea that it happened.
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I sincerely wonder
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what Owen thinks is going on in the world
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if that's something he's going to say with a straight face
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on this show. Many shootings
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while obviously sad and something that should be
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taken seriously are local issues.
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They don't really concern people outside
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of a certain geographical region so
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they don't often get much media attention
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from national outlets or even outside of their news
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market. A lot of mass shootings don't
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result in deaths and often there aren't even
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severe injuries so that isn't really something
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that CNN is going to cover.
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Conversely something like a shooting
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with over a dozen child fatalities
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at an elementary school is going to get a lot of coverage
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because it's an absolute tragedy
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that wherever you live
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nearby or not, whether you know anyone
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in Uvalde or not, you're going to feel
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that pain and we grieve together.
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And let's imagine that the scenario
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that Owen's talking about, let's imagine
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that this shooting happened and all the major
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national media didn't even touch it.
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Do you think for a second that wouldn't become
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the next Infowars conspiracy?
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If the media covers a story they're pushing
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an agenda. If they don't cover the story
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they're engaged in a cover-up. There's no
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situation where a response to a mass shooting
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will ever satisfy people like Alex and
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Owen because they're not acting from a
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sincere position. None of these things
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are actual arguments. They're the performance
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of the normal deflections they
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use to bully people out of talking about guns
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in the aftermath of a tragedy.
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And as for the point about armed security,
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that school district
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had all sorts of policies in place already
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and they didn't do anything. You had armed
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police there on the scene and it didn't do anything
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to stop it. In 2019, Governor
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Abbott signed a law that was passed to
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allow teachers to be armed and
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created measures to harden the security at
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schools. This was after a mass
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shooting at Santa Fe High School in Houston
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left 10 people dead and there was
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pressure on Abbott to do something.
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According to the Associated Press, they did
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all this stuff about hardening the schools because
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it was preferable to the alternative.
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Quote, efforts to create so-called red flag
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laws to keep guns away from people deemed to
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be dangerous to themselves and others and to
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toughen penalties for negligent home storage
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were defeated.
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These solutions offered by Owen and Alex aren't
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solutions. They're just like the Texas government
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passing laws to harden schools to
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avoid addressing gun-related issues.
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Alex and Owen are creating their own fake solutions
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so they don't have to get into territory that directly
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implicates their own ideology.
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It should
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not require
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superhuman intellect
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to look at an arms race
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and think escalation is only
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going to escalate problems.
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So if your arms race
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is these kids are coming into schools with
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guns and killing people so I'm going to escalate
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by putting armed security out front.
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Well, now the kids who want to go
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murder people are going to have to find a way to deal
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with your armed security out front. So then they
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do that. So then what happens?
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What do we arm next? Why don't we
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give the fucking kids guns?
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It's only going to escalate
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if you escalate things. Didn't Alex see
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the end of Batman Begin? I know!
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No!
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It's insane. I know he has.
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He sees every movie.
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It's so
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fucking stupid. It's stupid.
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It is. All of their ideas
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are nonsensical because they're not meant
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to make sense. No, absolutely not. And here's
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another one. But imagine if you had
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you don't have to arm every teacher but
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the teachers that want to get armed take a class
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have a concealed carry make sure they're armed
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one time, one time a shooter
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tries to go into a school and gets his head
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blown off by an armed teacher. Guess what?
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School shootings are over with. Because
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they know it's not a soft target anymore.
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But still school shootings are less than
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100 people a year. It's terrible
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we don't want to think of children being killed
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but with 350 million people it is still
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a statistical anomaly
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and something they're hyping up.
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I thought like last week we were mad
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at schools because the teachers were pushing
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CRT and trying to groom students
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and now they should have guns.
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Yep. Okay.
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But we want the teachers who teach CRT
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to be shot with guns
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and we want the teachers who don't teach
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CRT to have the guns to shoot them with.
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Does that make sense?
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No, it's complicated. No, it really doesn't.
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So Owen is really coming off as about the stupidest
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asshole imaginable on this show.
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He really expects me to buy
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that once one teacher shoots someone trying
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to do a school shooting the problem will solve itself
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because people will know that schools aren't soft targets.
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Whoa. I honestly can't stress how
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stupid this is enough. Like it's
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very dumb. Oh I mean imagine
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if a shooter was killed in the act
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of a mass shooting then
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all the future shooters would know like
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we're not going to survive this. Sure.
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For one thing the other place that Alex and the crew
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always refer to as soft targets
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is churches. So using
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Owen's logic one would think that the minute
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someone trying to do a shooting at a church
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was confronted by good guys with guns
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people would stop trying
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to shoot up churches since they knew it wouldn't be
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a soft target. But this isn't the case.
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The Sutherland Springs shooting in
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2017 was stopped by Stephen Willeford
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an armed neighbor who came to help
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and yet there have been church shootings
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since. There was another one in Texas
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even in 2019 at the West Freeway
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Church of Christ where an armed volunteer
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security guard killed a shooter mid attack.
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And yet even after that there have
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still been church shootings. Just
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this month there was a shooting at the Geneva
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Presbyterian Church in Laguna Woods
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California. The fact that
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aspiring church shooters have
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run into armed resistance apparently
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hasn't made the dramatic impact
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that Owen is pretending that it would
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and shootings continue. To imagine
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that a different dynamic would exist with
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schools is pure fantasy. It's
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nonsense. Another thing to consider
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is that most shooters don't expect to survive
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their attacks. Many of them kill themselves
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rather than allowing themselves to get caught
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so I don't think they care that much if there's a
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good guy with a gun there who kills them after
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they've been able to do a bunch of damage
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which is really their goal. I
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think these dudes are supposed to be against the prison
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planet and the whole militarizing of society
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and here they are wanting to turn schools into army
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bases. Seems fucking stupid.
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Well if your argument is
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remember there's only a hundred kids
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in a country of 350 million
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then your argument should be don't do anything.
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Not like because
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we know
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that's the argument that he's making. Yeah absolutely.
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And we know that putting more police in schools
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leads to more kids being arrested
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for no fucking reason. Leads
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to more trauma. All of those active
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shooter drills only traumatize children
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and they clearly, despite having been done
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so many places, especially Uvaldi,
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don't fucking do anything.
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So if your argument is it's nobody
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then don't do anything because you're only traumatizing
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more children to do nothing
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for the children who are going to be murdered.
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And you create more of an environment
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that sort of, it feels
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carceral with metal
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detectors and cops all over a school
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like it's not
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But at my partner's school
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the day after, what happened?
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Did they have a communal
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session? Did everybody come together
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and grieve? Did anybody even talk about their issues?
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Nope. What happened was
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every single kid walked through
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the door, was searched viciously
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went through a metal detector
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was questioned, was all of this shit
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and then told to go about their day.
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Nothing. See they didn't take
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my proposal, which I
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pitched to Alex actually I should say
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and that is that
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every school room
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is equipped with a mine.
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I like that. And the teacher teaches
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with their finger right over a remote
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button at all times.
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Totally. Yeah.
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That's the only way to be truly safe.
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Sure, well and even then you want to be able
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to contain the problem. So you've got one mine in every
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classroom so if somebody goes into the classroom, sure
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you have to sacrifice everybody in there
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and probably the people in the classroom above you
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too. Well for sure. But that's
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to keep everybody else safe. So you've got to have that.
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Sure. Yeah. All dumb.
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So, but like Alex what he's doing
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there like we're sort of
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you know talking about is he's minimizing
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using statistics and that's
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really shitty. Yeah. And you might notice
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that he never does that when it comes to like let's say
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crimes committed by immigrants.
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He'll take a single incident like that
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and extrapolate that out into being the greatest
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ill in society and proof that we need
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closed militarized borders.
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But here when a bunch of school kids are murdered
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he implores you to put the numbers in perspective.
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And it's because he's a callow piece of
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shit just trying to push his right wing
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politics. It has nothing to do
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with the reality of the statistics
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or anything like that. He's an opportunistic
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fuck. Yep. Yep.
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These people are a fucking
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blight. A
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fucking blight.
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So Alex as
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I don't know if you know this but he moonlights as a FBI
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profiler. Or at least that's the sense
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that I got from listening to this clip. Oh.
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This guy was Hispanic
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supposedly if it's even true whatever's going on.
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We'd be fools just to believe we were being
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told. I'm not saying it didn't happen or the way we're being
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told it didn't happen because the story's changing
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all the time. First he was captured now he's
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dead. But imagine
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if it had been a white drug
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addict shoot him up video game
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head. And I'm not bashing anybody that likes to shoot him
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up video games. We're saying the profile
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is a guy
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that can't get a girlfriend or
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a guy that has a girlfriend break up with him
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who is generally a nerd
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a trendy who is on
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psychotropics who's
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into Satanism. This guy fits the bill
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that then somehow is Satanically
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guided or spiritually guided
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to kill children. I mean why
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would you go and do this
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while why would you kill innocent children.
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What is going on. It's a selfishness it's a
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true demonic evil
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and the answer is not giving our
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guns up when the children of the
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Davos group and the children of
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the Democratic Party and the children of
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the abortion industry and the children
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of this whole church of Satanism we're dealing with
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are out there running rampant
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engaging carnage against us.
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It's a surrender to say we're
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going to give up our weapons like oh somebody
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beat somebody to death with their fist
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cut my hands off. It's a
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fraud we know it's a fraud. No but
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if someone created a fist gun
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you might want to you know and it killed
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people easily you might
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want to restrict that. I mean
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also just point of order the children of the
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abortion industry they
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don't exist. They don't
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exist. They're nonexistent. So
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that just a small correction. I mean
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it seems odd for him to struggle
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getting into the mind of somebody who wants to
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kill innocent children considering every time
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he looks at his daughter he says to her
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I am willing to accept
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that you will die in a mass shooting in order
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to make sure that I still get to hang on to all my guns
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in that closet over there. So at the end
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of the day your life is worth less
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than those guns over there. Just in case you were
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wondering every morning when we
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say hi I love those
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guns more than you being alive.
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I wonder
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I know I
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don't know if Alex's current
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child is homeschooled.
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I know that his other kids
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went to public school. Yeah.
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I wonder. Yeah.
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Philosophically they should be. Yeah.
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But I guess I don't really care. I mean like it's his own
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personal business. No it's his choice. I don't know why I
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went off on that. It's just an interesting thought.
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So Alex insists still
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that the pictures
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of the trans woman
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are the shooter and Owen
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gets dumb. Well and there's
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a reason why
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if you look up pharmaceutical
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I mean this guy's wearing a skirt.
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Should we ban skirts because he wore a skirt?
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It's the origins of pharmaceutical
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pharmacia which is just
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old latin origins of
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evil and so that's why
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pharmaceutical companies have a snake
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in their logo because they know it's evil.
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So they're feeding you evil
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pills. Owen's got this wrong.
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Pharmaceutical is derived both from Latin
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and Greek and the word just has to
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do with drugs. One thing that's interesting
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though is when you look at the Greek root words
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this is fascinating
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because in Greek you have the word
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pharmacios which can be translated
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as a poisoner or a sorcerer.
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Sure. But that is just because
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the word pharmakon is a bit of a catch
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all meaning things from drugs to poisons
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to spells and enchantments.
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Like an apothecary kind of thing.
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The witch in the woods would have all this
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stuff. The same dynamic exists
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within Latin where the word pharmacia
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can mean both healing or harming
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medicines or even a magical potion.
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The belief is that this word is based on
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something that predates Greek and there's a
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phenomenon among archaic languages where
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the words for like poison and medicine are often
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the same differentiated by
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context and surrounding words.
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It's not super uncommon in these languages.
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Right, right, right, right. So that's sort of a confusion
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that he's playing around. Right. And then Hermes'
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snake is gonna be
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uh, yeah. There's a ton of words
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for evil in Latin and Greek
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depending on what sort of evil you're talking about
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but pharmacia is not one of them.
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Also snakes aren't the symbol of medicine
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because of some connection to evil.
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This is referring to
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two symbols that are often used to denote
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medicine. The caduceus
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and the rod of Asclepius.
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The first one is a snake coiled around
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a pole and the other one is the two snakes
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entwined around a staff that has
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wings at the top. One
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of the very obvious connections here is
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that Asclepius is
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the Greek god of healing and that's the
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goal of medicine. Yeah. So that's a big part of it.
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Sure. There are also two main reasons
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why the snake has become a symbol
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in the medical field.
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The first is that in the book of Numbers
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after the people lose their faith
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in the wilderness and start speaking out against
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God in Moses, God sends
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fire snakes to bite people.
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When the people realize the error of their ways
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and beg Moses for help,
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here I'm going to read to you from Numbers 21
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verses 7 and 8. Go for it.
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Therefore the people came to Moses and
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said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against
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the Lord and against thee. Pray
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unto the Lord that he take away the serpents
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from us. And Moses prayed
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for the people. And the Lord said unto
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Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent
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and set it upon a pole, and it
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shall come to pass that everyone that is bitten
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when he looketh upon it shall
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live. There's a biblical root
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to one of the primary reasons that the snake
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is associated with the symbology for medicine.
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The other reason is the
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metaphor of a snake shedding its skin and
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going from old and weary to young and new again
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which is analogous to the doctor's goal of
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healing people. Anyway, Owen has just
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made up a bunch of dumb shit or maybe he read it on
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a dumb blog and he's parroting it to his audience
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pretending that it means anything and using
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it to demonize psych meds which he insists
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were to blame for the shooting even though he has actually
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no idea if they are. He's
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dumb and a piece of shit. Yeah.
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Moses' God was a lot more metal.
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You know. Fiery snake on a stick?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Moses' God was really
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fucking metal. Jesus' God was pretty
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and he was kind of Christian Rocky but
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Moses' God was fucking metal.
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There's a strength in silence and poise
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and not using
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fire snakes.
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Yeah, I always just love it
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when they do meme
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etymology. Yeah, I know. It's just
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what are you guys talking
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about? But it sounds
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smart to people who don't know
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anything. That's why the memes work.
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Yeah. And they work on Owen.
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Exactly. And then Owen spouts them to
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other people they would work on.
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So anyway, Alex still believes
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these pictures are real. Sure. The big question
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is what are we going to do now, Owen,
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that magically there's a shooting
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last week in Buffalo by a white supremacist
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and magically now there's
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this. And by the way, the crew's really
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smart. They catch things I don't catch. You guys
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were zooming in on the
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stockings the guy was wearing or was it the
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picture behind him? So in my ear
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so I'm missing it. You
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were showing the in-cell reported shooter
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and you were zooming in on his legs.
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Was it the stockings
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we were looking at or?
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Oh, it looks like
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oh, that's a, wow, I'm dumb.
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Look, there's like a hand print.
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Oh, no, that is the hand. No, it's a Photoshop.
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That could easily be, look, that could be
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anything. His leg could be lifted up. I have no
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idea what they're talking about.
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But because they're talking about stockings
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and legs
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you know which picture that they're referencing.
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So again, we have this very consistent
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thread that is talking
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about this specific
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hoax, this target
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of a hoax. Right. So
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I think you could pretty clearly demonstrate that
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based on what they're talking about. Wouldn't be too hard.
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So Alex is
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really dancing around like
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whether this is staged or not.
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Of course. And that's because he's a
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piece of shit. Yeah. Owen,
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look, I don't want to say this was
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staged provocateur
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but we have specifically
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said with two years of our
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mass shootings that with all
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the pre-programming that mass shootings are coming
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and terrorists are going to attack and we
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got to take the guns and then I'm like, well, I
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would predict a lot of mass shootings
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right before the election and then like clockwork
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is happening. You know, to me
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it's just very opportunistic
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what's happening. But that's the thing
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Alex, there have been mass shootings.
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Guys, plug into a Google search right now. 198
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mass shootings. No, you're right. But it wasn't at
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schools and it wasn't black folks.
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Whoa. So yeah.
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This is convoluted and
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the point that Alex is trying to drive at
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is I don't want to say this was staged but
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come on guys. I really want to say this is staged.
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Wink. Wink. Wink. I feel like I'm not allowed
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to say that it's staged anymore
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and I really do want to say that so
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I'm going to try and get you to kind of
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give me some cover to say
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that I can speculate about it
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so whenever people are like, you
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claimed that it was fate, I can actually say
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we were just talking about it.
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Right, and that's why Alex ends up taking a bunch of calls.
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Yeah, of course. Of course.
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But also like, yeah, there's
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this sense of like, people
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will think I went soft if I
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take this seriously. Totally. But also
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run some very serious risks
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if I go too far in the other direction.
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I think I might be able to outlast this
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lawsuit until we get full
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fascism in America and then they won't be able
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to stop me. And Owen has to
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put the brakes on him with being like, there were
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a bunch of mass shootings, Alex. Right, right, right.
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We got another three years before full fascism
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and you're probably going to lose that lawsuit.
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So Owen goes on to his
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thought there that there has been
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mass shootings and he has them pull up the number.
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And it's just
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when they decide to cover it. I mean, that's all it is.
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When do they decide to cover it?
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I guess you're right, Owen. There have actually been the regular couple hundred a year.
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And it's all in Democrat inner cities
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so they don't want to cover it. But this one happened
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like you said, tragically at a school. I can blame Texas.
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Out in a rural area in Texas
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so they figured, hey, this is a good one to cover.
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We can use this tragedy.
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By the way, I think this happened. I think 18 children are dead.
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I think three adults are dead.
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And when this happened today, when I got off here
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and saw you covering, I said, I bet
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it's an incel. I bet
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it's a dude to dress.
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And like when Dave Chappelle said,
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I just got attacked by a tranny. And it was.
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And I'm not trying to be mean to
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some people that are like that, but man,
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statistically these people
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have a higher percentage of whacked out folks.
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You can kind of tell that Alex has a little
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bit of the burpies there and like
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he's communicating weird.
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That's some of the
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it's hard to exactly
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put into words, but listening to him talk
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as much as I do, this is
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this is a weird tone he has.
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Yeah, he had a happy hour after work.
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Could be, or he could just be tired, but
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I don't know. Again, I have no interest
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in pretending that Owen sincerely doesn't
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understand why the media would cover the Buffalo
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and Uvalde shootings
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more than say, I don't know, the March 7th
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shooting in Knoxville, Tennessee where four
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people were injured and no one was killed.
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It's a false premise Owen is using, and
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he knows damn well the bullshit he's peddling.
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Now, I was interested in the notion
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that he put forth that these mass shootings are all
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in Democrat controlled inner cities.
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I wondered if that was true, so I decided
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to analyze the data of all the mass
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shootings this year and see if what Owen
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was saying was in any way accurate.
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Here's what I found.
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The first thing I learned is that looking at the numbers
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like this is stupid. This is in
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no way a red state blue state thing
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nor is it an inner city rural area issue.
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There are mass shootings in smaller
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cities and there are mass shootings in urban centers.
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I'm not positive this
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means anything, but since I took the time to compile
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this, here are the numbers.
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Defining red and blue states by their governor,
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for red states you have 102
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mass shootings total with
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124 fatalities and 455
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injuries. For blue
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states you have 114 total mass
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shootings with 123 fatalities
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and 483 injuries.
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Overall, it's pretty
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close. So
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like I said, I don't know if it means anything.
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That being said, Texas was the leader
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in every category with only California
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even coming close. That might mean something.
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Anyway, I guess the point is
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that I was curious about if what Owen
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was saying meant anything and after consulting the
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numbers, I've come to the strong conclusion that he's
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talking out of his ass, which I should have just assumed.
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Yeah. You know, sometimes you
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just like, let me
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make a spreadsheet here. Yeah, it's
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it's so fucked up
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how far they've won
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that they don't even have to remember
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hundreds and hundreds of mass shootings.
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True. You know? Like they don't even
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have to think about it. They're surprised that there
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are so many mass shootings. When a
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large one like this happens, Alex
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has to be reminded. Yeah, exactly.
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He has to be reminded that he's making
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shit up about there not being mass shootings.
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Right, and it's just like, man
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if you guys weren't
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playing full court press since
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all of the mass shootings, then
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ugh, man.
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So look man, Alex gets
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back to a bit of narcissism
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while Owen
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laments the society
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and decay. Sure. If metal
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detectors and armed police would protect these schools
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out before it, but the real
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thing to do is to arm
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the teachers and the principals and others.
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So when a mass murderer like this comes in there
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who's demonically of the Democratic
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party wanting to kill children, they're
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obsessed with raping them or killing them, destroying
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their innocence, there's people stopping. We have a
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demon problem. We have a satanic
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collapse problem the Bible predicted
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and the answer is not us
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rolling over, but us
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saying, okay
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you want to try to come after me?
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You want to try to kill me?
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You want to try to enslave me?
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I am going to defend myself.
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Well, that's the story.
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I mean, we have lost our moral
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compass. This is just
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yet another sign of a decaying
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civilization is what this is.
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Children out killing children, you're in
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a decaying civilization
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and of course. Like, where does someone think
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okay, the cops are chasing me.
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I'm going to go kill elementary students.
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Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook
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everything I cover, barely ever
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covered Sandy Hook. Alex Jones, Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook
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kill kids, kill kids, kill kids, kill
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kids, elementary, kill kids. They're introducing
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crazy people's minds. Go to elementary schools,
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kill kids. It's so obvious
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what they're doing. This isn't about you
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prick. Like,
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I don't know how to say it more simply.
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I, I
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it's just, it's
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it's disgusting, but that word doesn't
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seem right. No, no, no, no. Claiming the
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media killed all of those children is pretty
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disgusting, but it's not big enough.
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The, the
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the part about Alex
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thinking that his persecution caused
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this is
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If they hadn't have criticized
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me, then these shootings would never happen.
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I mean, like, I think if I was
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someone in his life, I'd probably hospitalize him
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for saying something like that. That's so fucked
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up. Multiple times on air.
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Absolutely. It's, it's indicative
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of, like,
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a really troubling thought
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pattern. Yeah, I mean, you, I mean,
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literally, you can't participate in society if
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that's how you think. Well, you have to assume
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that literally everything is about you. Yeah.
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Um, and that's... So, society
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can only touch you. You
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can't ever participate.
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You're never on the team society. And you can
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only really understand everything that goes on in the
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world as an extension of
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you, and that's dangerous.
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Yeah. No, I mean, it's,
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it's impossible to argue that he
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doesn't have a very severe mental
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uh, uh, faculty
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issue. Uh, at least
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a dangerous, narcissistic streak.
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Yeah. Blah. So, anyway,
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they decided they're going to take a break to
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play some special reports. Great. But
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first, we're going to air a couple
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special reports. We're going to come back with Sean,
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Steve, Mark, Don, and others. But
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first off, Owen, would you like
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to lead us in a prayer for these dead
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children, these dead teachers, and the wounded?
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Uh, would you like me to do it?
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Sure, Alex.
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Dear God, please be with the families
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that are suffering tonight
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in Uvalde, Texas, and that
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community. Please, God, protect
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that community from
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the satanic agenda that is surrounding
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it right now. It's a little bit of a
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political prayer, I think. Man.
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This is a little gross. God. Man,
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Moses' God really would have blown him
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fucking sky high. Fire snakes
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in the uproar studio. The idea
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of Owen leading a prayer if Moses'
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God was real. Ugh.
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God, he would explode.
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So, Owen wraps up his prayer here.
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And protect this nation as we are
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going into the arms of Satan. Lord,
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please, protect this nation in
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Jesus' name, I pray. Amen.
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Amen. Alright, you're absolutely right.
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Protect our little children, because these demons
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are coming for our children
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at every level, and
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they have pre-programmed psychos
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just like this. When the chimps are down,
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they go to kill children to make their
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final deal with Satan, like any
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Satanist would do. And the answer is
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weapons, and being
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informed and watchful to defend
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ourselves. That's a good response to a prayer.
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The answer is weapons!
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You know, this reminds me of another
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Bible story. This reminds me, I think
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it was Elijah, whenever
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God and
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Baal were having a whole
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argument, right? God and Baal were like,
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God's like, I don't like Baal.
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So the priests of Baal tried to light
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this thing on fire using the power of
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Baal, right? And then Elijah
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tried to light this thing on fire using the power of
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God. So Elisha does it,
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and the Baal guys didn't, and
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then God killed all the Baal guys too,
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just for fun, you know, just for funsy,
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that kind of thing. Like, that would be,
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here's what we do, okay?
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Owen can pray,
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right? And then I get
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to enact some form of assault
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weapons ban, and we'll see which
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one is more effective.
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Well that's, that's, I mean
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empirically I think that would be really difficult to
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make. I think we can compare.
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Alright. Yeah, I'm sure.
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I was thinking that you were going to just
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make up a Bible story. Oh, no.
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And I was just thinking that if you ever
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want to make up a Bible story, you should say that
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it was Habakkuk, because no one
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remembers what Habakkuk did.
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Ah, Habakkuk, what did he do?
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You have no idea. I have no idea.
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So, they do their
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special report, and then they come back
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and they take some calls, and this guy
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seems like his tone
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is not good.
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Let's start with Sean in Nebraska
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with, I think, a couple
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callers on this issue. It's the biggest
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cover-up when it comes to these shootings, and that's the
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pharmaceutical drug
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Every time one of these in-cells
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is on a bunch of pharmaceuticals
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and psychotropics. Go ahead, Sean.
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How you guys
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doing tonight?
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That dude's tone is a bit inappropriate.
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And the call he's making is to build
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the conspiracy about the cover-up of
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something he has no idea about.
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That's kind of the level of bullshit workshopping
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that's so important that they had to do
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this special episode. It's entirely
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pointless, except to drive into the
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audience's heads that no matter what they
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hear, this person was on psych meds,
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the psych meds made him commit murder, and
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there's a cover-up about whether or not he was
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on those meds. If the media says
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he wasn't on meds, that means he was.
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And if they say he was on meds, that means
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he was on even more. It's all just
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pointless, meaningless, and dangerous, ultimately
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hurting people who are hurting and
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need psychological help but are being told that
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the meds will make them crazy. There's
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no proof that psych meds have a causal link
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to these sorts of mass shootings
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unless you're into blindly accepting
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propaganda put out by the Church of Scientology.
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In that case, you might reach that
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conclusion. Yeah, they were really heavy on that one.
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Yeah. So this same caller has
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a really stupid point.
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Also, on the buyback program,
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people need to understand that on the buyback
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program with a gun,
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there's no questions asked.
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So when you have buyback programs in town,
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gun thefts go through the roof.
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Because there's no questions asked.
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I just want to make a point
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of that. This guy's a complete idiot.
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What? When they say no questions asked, it
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means that if you have a gun you're not legally allowed
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to own in a certain state, you won't get in trouble
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for bringing it to a buyback. Yeah. It doesn't mean
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they just accept whatever gun from anybody.
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Every state has the authority
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to run these programs however they choose,
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but typically how they do it is that when
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a gun is turned in, they run the serial
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number of it through the database of reported
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stolen guns. If that number matches
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a stolen gun, they can't destroy
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it without contacting the legal owner
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and getting their permission. In some
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states, you'll also get arrested if
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you're trying to, if you're the person who's trying
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to turn in a stolen gun.
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This guy says he lives in Nebraska where it's
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a class 2A felony to
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attempt to dispose of a stolen firearm.
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So I'm guessing he's just seen some dumb
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memes and decided that there are people out there
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stealing everyone's guns so they can sell them to the
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government. Sure. Nonsense.
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That's, that, nope. Flawless logic
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right there. Because they don't ask questions,
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you steal guns. Right. Duh.
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So then you steal guns and then
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you give them to the buyback
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program because they don't ask questions.
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And also I would think
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that stealing guns would be something that Alex
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thinks can't happen. Because you would be
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targeting someone who you know is armed.
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I mean, you would think. Yeah.
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Wouldn't the possession of the gun stop the person
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from wanting to steal the gun from you?
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Here is your problem with the good guy with
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the gun scenario. If the bad
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guy can steal your guns
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easily, that's an issue.
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A good guy can be disarmed if they
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can get their guns stolen very quickly.
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Right. And it's not good. And if it's someone
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who's able to steal your guns just
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based on a desire to sell them
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back to the government. Yeah. Imagine if they wanted
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to do harm with them. So stupid.
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Insane. Yep. But I mean it makes
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sense if you're just like, it's the kind of thinking
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that should be
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isolated to people
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in a bong circle. Yeah. Like
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sitting around talking about like, oh man, I bet
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I bet if they didn't ask questions, that's
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a way to make some extra cash, man.
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That's what I'm saying. So you could make a little bit
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of extra cash, right? Because they don't ask questions.
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They don't know where the guns came from. You didn't
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say, well fuck it, we can steal from Wal-Mart.
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They wouldn't even fucking know, man. It's like a
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people coming up
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with a bad caper. Yeah. 100 percent.
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This is how we're going to get rich. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Who's our grease man? Alright.
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Man, I was thinking about
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Bottle Rocket the other day and that just
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triggered my mind on it again. A bad caper.
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That is a bad caper. Oh god
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though. It's a pretty good movie. Oh, Future Man.
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He's so cool.
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Future Man. There's a character
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named Future Man. Yeah, it's a good
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movie.
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So, they get another call and this person
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has worked out a story line about
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the idea that the shooter was trans.
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Sure. Mark in Arizona was talking about
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Mike Adams. Go ahead.
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Yeah, Mike Adams just posted
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on naturalnews.com that the kid
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was a transsexual. And I
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think we could... Yeah, we have
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the photos. We'll put them on screen.
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Yeah, he killed seven,
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eight, and nine year olds. Maybe that's where he
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went to elementary school and
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he's just going back to where it all began.
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And so he was groomed there
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and then set up and transitioned through
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high school and it drove him crazy so he
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saw his grandma and then went back to the start.
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Elaborate on that.
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Alex is eating. Yeah.
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Yeah, so that's fucked up.
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This guy's just created a fun
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story for himself. A narrative
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arc based on
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hoax pictures and just
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what he assumes might have happened
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to somebody in elementary school.
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This is fucked up. Yep.
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This kind of stuff is just not even...
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It's not even unproductive.
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It's not even counterproductive.
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No. It's something else.
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I mean, it's astonishing.
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I really don't understand
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this person on a
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fundamental level.
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I listen to somebody say that
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and I do not know where I belong anymore.
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I kind of understand
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what's going on in his head.
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Because he's somebody who believes this bullshit
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and it's someone trying to
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make sense of the information that's being
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presented to him as truth.
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So he's come up with this
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explanation in his head.
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And I can understand that.
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What I have a difficult time understanding
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is feeling like
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there's any merit in
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saying it out loud.
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There's any merit in
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calling into a national radio show the
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night of a shooting to
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share this theory as if it
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means anything. Right. I understand
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the way that our brains work. Sure.
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That there's a lot of times you put pieces of
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information together to try and create a story
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to help you understand something. You create a pattern where
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maybe there necessarily isn't one.
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I get that. And the pieces of information that he has
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are bad and wrong, so the story that
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he's come up with is bad and wrong. Of course.
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The taking
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action to share it is weird.
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That part I don't understand at all.
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Yeah. I mean, if I was...
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Obviously, I've spent many, many
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a day concocting some
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sort of narrative to try and make some
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conspiracy theory make sense. Sure.
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You know, like this. So I understand him coming up with
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this story, a plausible enough
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sounding, drawing all
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of this bullshit into a more
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grounded place of, like, a human
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pathos. Like, this...
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The weirdest part is this
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guy is tacitly admitting that trans
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people are discriminated
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against on a constant level.
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I don't even know. That's not fair.
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I don't even know. We aren't playing the rest of
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his call, but he's talking
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more about the idea that teachers
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made him trans. Oh, my fuck me.
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Stuff like that. Then fuck off.
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You're giving him way too much credit. Yeah, you're right.
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I am giving him way too much credit.
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Jesus Christ.
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So, yeah.
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Anyway, this is a useless
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use of time for Alex.
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Well, at least he's eating,
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so I guess it's useful for him.
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So, Alex
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does keep dancing around the idea
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of false flaggery.
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The big questions are, how many
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false flags will leftists themselves
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carry out? They catch
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leftists every day.
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Staging racial
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attacks on synagogues, black
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churches, you name it, who are liberals
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that demonize America.
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Well, the next step would be
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just go out and kill people, and then you can blame
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America. Sounds a little fucked up, but also
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they don't catch people doing that every day.
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Nope. False flagging synagogues.
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I mean,
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it is fucked up that
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currently he's trying to
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demonize groups of people.
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I'm shocked that he didn't bring up
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Jussie Smollett. I am. I am a little
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shocked, too. Yeah. It's his go-to.
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Yep. Hmm. Yeah.
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Yeah, man. So, this next call
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is fun, I guess.
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Alex Jones,
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my black brother, can't
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get no judges in the court, and
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now you see what it's like.
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But we're all pulling for you.
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See, that's funny, because this guy's trying to
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express solidarity with Alex, but
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the way he's doing it actually invalidates a
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giant argument Alex yells about all
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the time. According to Alex, black people
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should have no problem getting justice
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in the courts, because there's no such thing as
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systemic racism. Why, this
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caller sounds like he's trying to push CRT.
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It's hard to believe that Alex doesn't
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shout him down and correct him the way he
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would if some left-leaning person were to try to
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tell him that black people are treated unfairly
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in the justice system. Huh.
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It does seem Alex should say,
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excuse me, you've never had any trouble with
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the justice system because the entire
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globalist sphere is angled towards
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making sure you get away with crimes
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as much as possible.
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So, you can't express solidarity with
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me. As a white person, I'm the
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only one persecuted by the American
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justice system, sir.
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Hey, it's strange that he doesn't respond that way. It does seem odd.
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That would be a more appropriate response.
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Well, so Ted Nugent
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shows up.
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Bad news. That is an appropriate
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response.
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Hey, how you doing, Ted?
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When I speak, you know,
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Alex, we spent time together.
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I don't have hunches
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and I eliminate
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presumptions in my life. I
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look into evidence and I embrace
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the evidence that I
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am exposed to
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and I just cannot
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overstate the heartbreak
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and I know you know that, but I
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don't think we should pivot
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off the pain and suffering
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right now to allow
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politics to enter this for as long
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as we possibly can till we get all the
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answers. If Nugent
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isn't into hunches and loves information,
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he should check in with his nutty QAnon wife.
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Also, a little late to
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talk Alex off the ledge of getting
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political. Nugent should have come on at the
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beginning of the show. Maybe that would have stopped Alex from
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playing a bunch of fake shit and misidentifying
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another mass shooter. Also,
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Ted Nugent is bringing up like we
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should, you know, feel
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the pain and all this. Like, that
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hasn't been a part of this broadcast at all.
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Nope. That recognizing
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the pain and really not pivoting
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off it is like, if it wasn't
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Ted Nugent saying it, I think I'd probably
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be okay with the sentiment. Sure.
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But it has nothing to do with what this Infowars
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coverage has been. No. I mean...
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This has been in the face
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of the pain. I mean, this has been
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an affront to it. Owen, Owen
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said a prayer that, I mean,
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did it mention the families?
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Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. Yeah.
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Yeah. I didn't play the entire prayer. Sure.
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But yeah, it was a little bit. But it also had to do with the
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satanic forces. Exactly. And it was clearly
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like code for Democrats and gun control.
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100%. Yeah. But, so yeah, this has
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been quite political. Uh, and
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uh oh, a couple minutes, not even
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minutes, a couple, maybe 30 seconds
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later, Ted Nugent gets political. There we
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go. I'm on with you right now, Alex.
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I am not only dedicated
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and passionate
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and emotional about representing the heartbeat
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of broken hearted
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Americans, especially in novelty, Texas,
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but I'm also on with you right now, Alex,
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while one of the worst human beings
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that has ever slithered
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the earth
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is on television right now, a man
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who thinks he's the President of the United
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States, a
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horrible, evil, heartless,
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soulless, treasonous
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man named
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Joe Biden. Yeah,
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let's not get political.
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I think that like
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your hours, mere hours
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after someone
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murdered elementary school
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students,
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and you're going out of your way to say
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that Joe Biden is one of the worst people who's ever
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existed. I mean, it's
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it's a little bit much. Immediately
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after saying you represent the heart
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of everyone grieving the broken heart
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of middle America. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I assume that immediately following
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this tragedy they were like, oh,
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Biden is a snake.
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Yeah. Also, by the way,
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after that last clip
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I brought up his wife
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being into QAnon, and that felt like
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maybe it seemed like a cheap shot. No.
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But his wife does come up later.
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Yeah. She appears later, so
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there is sort of a... It's in there.
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It's not out of nowhere. You're not just pulling it from the
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right. Yeah, I gotcha. So,
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Ted, this guy, man,
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loves evidence of things.
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He's rigorous
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and also loves Dinesh D'Souza.
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Well, of course, I'm a huge
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supporter and believer
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in evidence. Evidence that I
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bet when I scrutinize and I research
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with all my heart and soul, and Dinesh
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D'Souza has documented
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that in his documentary 2000
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Mules that the 2020 election was
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fraudulent. Dead people by
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the millions voted, that illegal people
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voted, that fraud
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and criminal corruption took place in
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the 2020 election, and that Joe
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Biden did not win the 2020
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election legally. Case
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closed. I've come to
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realize this. I'm into evidence, and I
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do my research. That isn't something that
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these people say sincerely, even.
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Like, they don't even mean it.
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It's not meant to be taken seriously because
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it's not an actual statement of what they practice
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as much as it's a statement
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of how they want to be seen. It's a
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catchphrase, basically. I mean, it's
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them saying, I'm not a racist, but
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you know. Somewhat, yeah.
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I mean, Ted Nugent doesn't research shit.
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He doesn't have any evidence of anything, but he wants
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that to be his brand and how he's presented
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to the wider world of right-wing shitheads.
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He doesn't have any evidence of anything, and
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2000 Mules doesn't prove any of that shit.
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This is what I would describe
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as pathetic virtue signaling
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being done by idiots who want to be...
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They're desperate to be taken seriously
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as smart people, but they don't want to do
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anything to merit that.
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It's hard to be smart. You have to
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work at it. People think that you're just
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smart, you know? You don't have to read books
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or learn things or
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continuously educate yourself
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ever-ending, never-stopping.
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It's a practice. Not
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being smart is a practice, but
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being interested in evidence
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and the things that you're talking about
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being grounded is something
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that you have to do. It's not something that you
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are. And the way that
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Nugent and these people like
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him engage with
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that is like, no, this is a characteristic
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of me. And that's, I
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think, fraudulent, but I also think that it's
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never meant
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to be really, like, serious.
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No. I mean, it is
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nice to, though, have it as
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an inherent characteristic
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if you are on this shit.
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Because even when you don't do any
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research, you can always be like,
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no, you know me, I do my research.
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It's an inherent characteristic that I've established
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part of my, you know, backstory.
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So you've got that to rely on
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even when you're full of shit. Right. Like,
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yeah, I don't know. Which is always. It's annoying.
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It is very annoying. So anyway, Ted Nugent's
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really excited because moderate Democrats
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I don't know. I really don't
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I'm struggling. Ted Nugent
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understands that this is immediately
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following. Andy doesn't want to get political.
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But moderate Democrats
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Sure. I don't know what moderate
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Democrats are hanging out with Ted fucking Nugent.
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Right. But moderate Democrats are starting to
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realize that Democrats are evil.
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I'm telling you that this is so
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ugly that heretofore so-called
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moderate Democrats
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they're finally getting their head out of their
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ass and they're going, wait a minute.
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If you don't have secure borders
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you're not even a country
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when you facilitate the
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invasion of fentanyl and
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methamphetamine when you reward
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coyotes trafficking
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and children for sex
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and profit when you see it
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wide open
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those that thought they had a hope for
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a Democrat lifestyle they're
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finally going, my God
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the current Democrats in the United States
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of America they are pure
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evil. They are
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treasonous in every act, word
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and deed. No, you're right. I mean
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my wife plays tennis all the time
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as all these liberal friends.
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They're all have woken up. They're all
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talking about Donald Trump and Ted Nugent
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literally. And so
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no matter how many fraudulent votes they've got
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they're waking up their very base
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to this is a suicide pact
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they're part of. This is big news.
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Wow. Alex's wife's tennis partner has become
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pilled. I can't believe Alex's
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wife's affluent tennis partner
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friends would eventually turn
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against populist ideologies
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like, you know, so
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crazy. I just like these
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characters that don't exist on the
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and probably don't exist in the real world. Almost
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certainly. Exist as figments
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of Alex's imagination. I really do enjoy
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tracking them whenever Alex's
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wife's tennis partners come up. They've got
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a lot to say. Yeah, there's a lot of intel
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that comes from them. They're a bit
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like a Greek chorus, you know, they're
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there in the background and they
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contribute when necessary. And apparently
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Alex is using them to do exit polling
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figuring out the pulse
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of the country by way of
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tennis partners.
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So Ted Nugent has
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something to promote, but he's doing it
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in a way that I would describe as dishonest.
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We know conservatives
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that aren't even registered
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to vote. We have
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to fix them, we have to scold them,
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we have to chastise them,
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beg, plead. We've got to
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I don't care what you have to do, but if you
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believe in God, family, country, law
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and order, individual freedoms, Constitution,
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Bill of Rights, you've got to get
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everybody in your life
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to vote those core values.
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We started hunter nation
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dot org. Please, my friends,
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join me at hunter nation
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dot org. It's the
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clearinghouse, Alex, for conservatives
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to get everybody in their life who
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believes in all the good things that make the greatest
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quality of life in the history of humanity
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here in the United States of America,
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particularly here in Texas.
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Aw man, I remember when these guys were saying
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Democrats doing, like, get out the vote efforts
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and registration drives were evil, and they were
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trying to steal an election by signing up fake people.
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Now Ted is yelling about
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getting people registered? Seems fishy.
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I went to hunter nation and
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it's essentially a subscription website Ted runs
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where there's some dumb content like
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blogs and stuff, but it's mostly
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just about him making money. He also
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apparently does a show there where he tells a co-host
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about things he's hunted, called The Nightly
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Nudege. It's dumb.
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Oof. I guess things have dried up since he
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doesn't have those TV shows anymore and his music
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sucks, so you gotta do what you gotta do. Yeah.
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On the site also you can buy raffle tickets
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to go hunting with Ted, or if you like
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you can try to win a chance to hunt
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a bear in Idaho. Great stuff.
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Great stuff. That's just great.
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One of their past dream hunts was go
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shooting with Trump's son.
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Oof. There's a
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tell here that Ted is obscuring
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and that's that there's another website called
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Hunt the Vote, which is where the whole
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registration drive is. Hunter nation
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is Ted's website where there's
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a bunch of his dumb bullshit that he sells on it.
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If he were actually focused on the registration
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stuff as opposed to advertising his own
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garbage, he'd promote the other site
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and he knows what he's doing.
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Right. This is
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this is really about fundraising. Wow.
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You know, even if it was about
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promoting voting, you
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know, that's still fucked up on the
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night. That it's a lie
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about promoting yourself
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is fucked up.
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Ted doesn't want to get political. I understand that.
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He wants to get profitable.
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Yes. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yep. So
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Alex is trying
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desperately to get Ted
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to say that bad shit's coming.
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Sure. Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
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So this clip is really fun because
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Alex is trying. Ted doesn't play ball
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and then Alex has to like
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put his tail between his legs and sulk.
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Somebody asked this question.
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I believe this is a real psychopath. I believe
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the shooting happened.
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The question is
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though it's a little weird
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that we're right outside the midterms
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108, 168
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days out, 168 days out
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and magically this is all happening.
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What do you expect in
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the bag of tricks the deep state has
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as it comes
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out that Russiagate was fake as we already knew
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and all everything else they do
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blows up gut level
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as an American, as a patriot
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not just as a top
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TV host and pro gun guy and rock
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star but as a father and grandfather
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gut level Ted Nugent
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they know they're losing. What do you expect
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him to pull next?
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Well the
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pulse on the not so mean streets
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of America Alex would you
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retain an accurate reading of that
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pulse and we thank you for that. We thank you for
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speaking up and raising hell. That's
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what the founding fathers wanted all good Americans
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to be like Ted Nugent and Alex Jones.
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If you're not raising hell you might as well go to
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Cuba where you're not allowed to.
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The point being is that I know these people.
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I walk the streets here in Texas
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and I still communicate with my friends in
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all 50 states Alex.
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I was on the phone today with Steven Tyler
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down there in California.
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I'm on the phone with just
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ranchers and farmers and cops and
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teachers in all 50 states non-stop
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getting ready for a rock and roll tour and
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a hunting season where we share campfires
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both literally and figuratively. I believe
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that there is an awakening
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taking place because of the cruelty
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of our current government.
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The cruelty, the dishonesty,
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the violation of their sacred
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constitutional oath. I believe that
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it's going to be a win-win. I'm an
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eternal optimist and I have great
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hope that people are waking up
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and we are going to crush
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this treasonous wave that is now
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headed by this freak who can't form
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a syllable in the White House.
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Ted Nugent I totally agree with you Owen Troyer has got some
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questions. My question is yes
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the red tsunami is the biggest ever. I totally agree
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with you. Owen Troyer.
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The moment you are off this phone call I'm
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going to claim that there will be non-stop mass
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shootings from now until the end of the midterms.
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God damn it Ted. How dare you say that
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there is positive things coming.
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Non-stop shootings from now until the
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end of the midterms. God fucking
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Ted. Ruining my fucking neighbor.
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Oh let's go camping. Shut
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up Ted. So here's where
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Shamane, Ted's wife
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gets involved in the proceedings.
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And she apparently hasn't gotten one of the memos
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that Alex has put out.
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Shamane it's just as smart as you are.
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What is her view on things?
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Hey Alex I'm sitting right here.
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I agree with
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I agree with Ted and you know
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it's a shame at what's going on.
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I don't know how anybody thinks that
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if we don't change the way that we've voted
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in the past why are things going to be
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any different. So if we can't
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fix these voting machines
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I'm scared of what's
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going to happen. No the voting machines were a
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red herring. No
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no no that the new narrative
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is that the voting machines were a distraction
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by the globalists.
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Did you not watch
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Dinesh D'Souza's most recent movie?
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That your husband is promoting
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the show.
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Wait is there voting machines in that one?
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Who cares? No that's mostly about the mules.
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Oh of course.
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So yeah, Shamane
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brings up hanging out with Trump.
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Sure. And that's fun to
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think about. But Alex
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is really excited. He wants some hot
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goss. Okay. You know what
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when we were with President Trump last weekend
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there were two things that he said to us Alex.
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He said I think it's going to get pretty
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dark before it gets better
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before it gets light
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and that this had to happen
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so that people would wake up.
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Wow. Wow so
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Trump said that. That's huge.
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Yeah he admitted it.
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We spent some great time with the president. He's a
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great man. He's not perfect but compared
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to the regular politicians he's almost like
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Michael the Archangel. No I agree.
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We'll spend a few minutes on that and let you beautiful people go.
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Yeah please. Tell me more about Trump.
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Tell me more.
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Yeah it's strange how
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sycophantic that still kind of is
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for him even though he's trying to pretend that he's like
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Jesus. You know I've moved on.
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Yeah he's still very much into
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that star fucker. That's so gross.
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So the Nugents take off
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and it's back to business.
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Right. Owen has some thoughts
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about who could and could not own
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guns in early American history.
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I don't I don't want to live
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in a war zone. I don't want to live
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in a society where I feel like I have to carry
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a gun around. Well we are in a war zone with all these devil
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worshippers. And I definitely don't want to be a slave.
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I'll tell you that. Damn
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true. I'm never going to be a slave. And I love
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how they say oh the Second Amendment
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was written that didn't mean everybody
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could own a gun. Hmm
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let's see why don't you finish that
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statement. Who couldn't own a gun in 1776
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who was that? Slaves
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that's who it was slaves
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couldn't own a gun in 1776
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so they just want to make you a slave. You're not supposed to
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care that much about slavery it was not a big thing.
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Yeah don't you guys
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always say that oh no they wanted it. Owen's pushing
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CRT. Yeah exactly right.
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So you should also probably learn a little bit more about history.
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So slaves couldn't
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own a gun in the early days of America
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but you know who else couldn't? Women. All non-white
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people regardless of whether or not
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they were enslaved like Native Americans.
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Also you'd be really hard pressed
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to find women who owned guns. Although
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there may not have been a prohibition
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against it but it just wasn't something that
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culturally was very acceptable.
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Also anyone who
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didn't swear an oath of loyalty to
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the new country couldn't own guns.
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And prior to the founding
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of the country the colonies of
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Maryland and Virginia specifically disarmed
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Catholics and then Pennsylvania
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joined in on that later. The early
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Americans targeted populations
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that they felt were likely to rebel against
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them and then they took their weapons.
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It's remarkable really like Alex fetishizes
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the founding fathers and yet they did
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exactly the thing he's constantly yelling about
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the globalists doing and then the globalists
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never actually do the thing. Yeah yeah yeah.
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So what they were realizing
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right is they didn't like the way King George was
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oppressing them. They overthrew him.
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And then they looked at their own behavior
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towards other people and they were like oh shit
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they have a legitimate grievance against
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us we could do things better
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or I'll tell you this
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that King George guy knew what he was
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talking about. So a lot of
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that was during like the colonial times
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a lot of that stuff like disarming
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Catholics and what have you. But
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in 1878 New Hampshire
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made a law that would disarm and
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imprison any tramp that was
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quote found carrying any firearm
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or other dangerous weapon.
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Tramps would lose their guns if
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all they did was quote threatened to do
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any injury to any person or
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to the real or personal estate of another.
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Shit was tough for tramps
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back in the 1870s. I can't believe that they would
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be so against tramps.
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Anyway the picture of who was
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and wasn't allowed to be armed in the early
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history of our country isn't as cut and dry
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as Owen wants it to be. But that makes sense
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given that I'm sure most of the stuff
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that he knows comes from memes and listening to
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Alex make things up. I mean isn't he supposed
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to even be like no slaves
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could own guns cause the second amendment
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or whatever it is. Aren't they supposed to believe
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that all the rights apply equally
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even if you're a slave because you choose
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to be a slave or something along those lines?
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I bet they wouldn't want to parse that out.
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Yep.
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So they go back
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to calls. And this caller has some really good
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advice but it's also too late.
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Yeah first of all I mean
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I'm stuck to my stomach like everybody else
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and what Ted said
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you can't talk
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that so I'm not gonna go
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there. Go to hunternation.org
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and ask people please wait for things
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to unfold and you know
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we know how things change over the next
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few days so. Yeah man don't jump to any
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conclusions Alex like you have
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this entire time. Yeah that'd be
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it's a bad idea to speculate this close
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with so little information Alex. Alex
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my advice to you. Don't do the show you're
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in the middle of doing Alex. Alex I've
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been following along with your court cases. Do you know
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the things you're doing? Somewhat pointless.
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Yep. So anyway uh caller has
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some I would say
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fucked up perspectives and Alex
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decides to sign off on that. Sure.
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Hey uh I've been listening
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to your show for about two years
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I really appreciate the work you're doing
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and um if these satanic
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lunatics can't kill them in the
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womb then they brainwash them
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through the media and the schools
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and the pharma companies get a hold of
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them and whack them out of their minds
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with the drugs and we need to take our
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kids out of these institutions and make sure we
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teach them about Jesus because he's coming back
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and everything. Well I totally
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agree with that statement Owen. Oh boy.
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Sure. Yeah. Sure. So take your kids
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out of the schools because Jesus is coming back
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soon and Alex is like hell yeah
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also take your kids out of the schools
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and also arm teachers?
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Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what's going on
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anymore. Teachers should be armed and
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you should try and teach your children
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uh geometry
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by yourself. I guess it kind of makes
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some sense in as much as like let's arm
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the teachers but everyone's homeschooled
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so it's all the parents who are. Right.
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I guess that's the work around here. I think a lot
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of kids are going to go to prison. So Owen
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uh does not accept
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anybody on the left
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pretending that they care about this shooting.
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Which is dumb. That's nice.
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This is something that frustrates me so much about
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the demonic left. They
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want to sit here and virtue signal
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and have their crocodile tears anytime
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they can use a tragedy
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for their political advantage.
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I don't want to
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I don't want to hear about a Democrat
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upset about the children dead
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in the Yuvaldi shooting because
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you celebrate 60 million
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dead babies aborted in this
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country. You literally go out and celebrate.
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You have specials on TV. You do
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parades. You launch confetti.
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You paint your face. You celebrate
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abortion. You literally celebrate
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baby murder. And they say
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kill that bastard. It is a baby. We're
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murdering them. And they expect me
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to sit here and have my emotional heartstrings
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tugged on by the same people that
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celebrate baby murder. Oh and they know
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you have a conscience. They manipulate your
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conscience. Hey Dick.
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Uh don't have an emotional
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reaction to what other people
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are saying. You should
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have an emotional reaction to the event
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itself. Yeah. Um
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Yeah it is. I don't know
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why you take any
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kind of like look
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I have a lot of thoughts about Alex's
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response to the shooting.
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I have a lot of feelings about that in terms of
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the way you know we're discussing it on this episode.
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Sure. That is completely distinct
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from my actual feelings about
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the shooting itself. Yes. And my
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emotional response
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and processing of it. Yeah.
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It does not feel
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from what they are doing
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and how they're engaging with this
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that there is much of a difference
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between their response to the shooting and
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their response to what
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liberals are doing. I mean
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he did just say why are you
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trying to make me care about this?
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It feels that way a little bit. Yeah. And I won't
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care because you support abortion. Yeah
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you shouldn't be making me care about this
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and the I mean you know
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what it is is they
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can't believe that
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there is a different way you know
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like cause they politicize they do all this
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stuff so they can't believe that there's
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a way not to do that. Sure. Because
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they know that it would be better to not do
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that. Yeah they don't believe that anybody isn't
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craven as them. Exactly. Yeah. And they
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have to because if you recognize that other
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people are not as craven as you then you can't
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really justify your craven behavior. Yep.
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So in this next clip the worm
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turns
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some information comes to Alex's
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attention and everything
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everything is different after this. Everything is flipped
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upside down. And again and again it's not confirmed
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that the photos going around
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the internet of the guy in a skirt is
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the reported shooter. Andy ToGo
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points out many are posting photos of a young
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male in women's clothing claiming
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has evolved a Texas mass shooter. These images
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are unfirm and unverified. Please stop sharing
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them because in the event they are
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Ramos, aren't Ramos
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you're harming someone who had nothing to do with the shooting.
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And let me just be clear here Alex. That's being reported but we're not
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we're not sure that's who it is. But let me just be clear here
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the images that they're talking about are not the images
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that we've been sharing. There's other images out there
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with a clear trans man
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waving trans flags and stuff. We haven't been
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sharing those. I believe those are the images he's
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talking about. We've been sharing the images
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that are on the Instagram account
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that is claimed to be his.
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But that could be somebody spoofing it.
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Right and that's why it was odd.
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So that's weird. Alex is making this
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clarification based on Andy No posting
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that this trans individual isn't confirmed
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to be the shooting after he's already spent pretty much
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this entire show reporting that the shooter is trans.
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And to be clear the picture they've been
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talking about this whole show is the one
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that was the 4chan hoax. You can
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tell by how preoccupied Alex has been about
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the stockings and skirt. The
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picture that the actual shooter posted to his
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Instagram includes him wearing pants.
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This is Alex realizing
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in real time that he's done the same thing that
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he did with the Parkland shooting all over
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again. He's taken some dumb shit
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he saw on 4chan and he's participated in
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and greatly amplified the defamatory
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claims that an innocent person is a mass murderer.
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All it takes is a tweet from
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Andy No to get Alex to start covering
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his ass. But if you pay attention
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you'll see that Andy posted that tweet
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at 629pm over
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half an hour before Alex got on air for this
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special report. I have no
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idea if what Alex did this time is actionable
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in any way but it's a cold splash
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of water to the face that brings into sharp focus
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that Alex is incapable of or
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unwilling to learn any lessons when it comes
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to being more responsible in his reporting.
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His priority is pushing his extreme
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right wing politics and he does not give a shit
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if he hurts people in service of making engaging
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sensationalized and bigoted
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content. Don't forget that
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within the first minute of being
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on air Alex reported that the shooter was trans
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based on a picture that he'd come across
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and sent to his staff which Alex specifically
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said were people
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like a person in a dress.
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This is not the Instagram picture of
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the actual shooter. The whole show's content
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has been based on a 4chan hoax and
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this is just a sad attempt to cover some ass
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and I think that the way that
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Owen jumps in and is like
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no no no we're talking about the Instagram picture
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that reveals knowledge of
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what you have done.
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That to me
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is so telling of like
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oh wait we have to come up with an explanation
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for why what we did wasn't
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the thing that Andy Noe's tweet is
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telling people not to do. It's pathetic.
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It takes Andy Noe
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to get them to realize
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what they're doing is fucked up.
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It's sad but I guess
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if the message gets across
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I mean sure.
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Whatever. That's
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so unreal. So Alex tries
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to back himself up more
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with like hey man look it's breaking. This is a
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breaking story. What are you going to do?
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Yeah this is a live breaking news event
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so we're giving you the best information we have
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at this point. We're not sure if
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Salve Edor is
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the person's account.
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Though the news is saying it could be.
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Go ahead.
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Well over the next few days I'm sure we'll get
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more intel as they
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roll it out if they see fit.
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It won't. It could be the Vegas shooting
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all over again so you never know.
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What exactly is Owen wanting to know about the Las Vegas
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shooting? What was that?
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Just because he stopped caring about it and hasn't read
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anything about the story in a few years doesn't mean
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that everybody else just is pretending it
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didn't exist. Except Steve Prochenik.
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He's definitely pretending it didn't exist.
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Or happen at all. In August
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2018 the Las Vegas Metro Police
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Department released a 187 page
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report covering the investigation into the shooting.
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And if Owen's so curious about anything
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he should go ahead and read that. The FBI
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did an investigation as well and determined
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that they couldn't nail down a specific
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motive which is frustrating. But it's
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not proof of any kind of cover up.
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We heard in the Kit Daniels deposition
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about how the audience loses
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interest in stories that are a few days old
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and that they have to tailor their coverage
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to accommodate that. In order to
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chase viewers and keep the supplements selling
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Infowars moved on from caring about that
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story. And what Owen is doing here is
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that he's trying to blame everyone else
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for their own shallowness and laziness in
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covering stories. Like yeah you
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lost the interest in covering this
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because it wasn't moving the needle
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and now you're pretending that
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they just stopped investigating it or
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covering it. It was you. You did that.
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What he's admitting is that
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he does not do any research
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at all. He's only spoon fed
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what it is he
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gets. He's a puppet.
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Well I mean
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totally. They don't
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go looking for things.
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It's brought to them. You know?
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They don't go looking for
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oh I have a question that I want the answer to
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I'll go look to find it.
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The answer is either
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brought to them or they don't
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find it. Yeah things that are challenging
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aren't really in the Infowars milieu.
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So they get another
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caller and this guy wants to pray
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and so we have two prayers on this show.
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But I keep this in just as
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a kind of contrast.
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Because I think this is a pretty decent prayer.
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Okay. Let's talk to Steve in Kansas.
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Go ahead Steve.
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Are you there?
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I sure am brother. Welcome.
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Thank you. It's an honor to be
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with you tonight. I just wanted
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to offer a prayer to all those people
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in Uvalde.
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Lord we ask that you
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cover the families of these precious
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children in your grace
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and
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give the families
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the peace
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to accept what
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has happened.
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It's normal that they're going to be upset
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but
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there's nothing we can say
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to comfort them.
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But the Lord can do it
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and He will.
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We ask this in your
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name, in the name of Jesus Christ
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our Savior and the Holy Spirit.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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You're right. It just shows
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more of the reason for the second amendment than ever
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to have demons like this running around.
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Alex's response is shit but the reason
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that I kept that in and wanted to play it
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was because I want
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to stress that when
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people pray on
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Infowars, I'm not
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opposed to praying. Right.
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I just think that they usually do
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it in a really fucked up way
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that is generally self-serving
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and maybe pushing
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and I think that what this
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caller is doing is expressing a pain
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and a wish to
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express solidarity
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and a desire for
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God's grace to
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help the parents. Right.
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And I don't think that there's anything wrong with it.
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I think it's a little bit weird for
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Alex's show to present itself as a news show
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and then for people to be praying all over it.
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Sure. But whatever.
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It's sort of the difference of his style.
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Right. Right, right, right.
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We make fun of a lot of the
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people end up praying on
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Alex's show because it's kind of fucked up.
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But I just want to be clear, there are
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instances every now and again, it's maybe
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rare, where somebody
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comes in with a prayer that's like,
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that's somber. Right.
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No, and I respect that. I just
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know that it proves they don't
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actually believe in or give a shit about their
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religion whatsoever. Well, you don't know what this caller is
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bringing to the table. I mean, I know what the
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Bible is bringing to the table and he doesn't.
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Well, I
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you're jumping to a conclusion. But look,
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here's the deal.
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I just want to put these
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in juxtaposition. Owen's prayer,
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this caller's prayer, there's a
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world of difference between them. Totally.
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And I feel like one of the reasons is
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because there's an opportunistic-ness
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in Owen and there's
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a sincerity of feeling
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in this caller. 100%. And that's
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that is the difference.
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Absolutely. That's the relevant
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difference. No, I agree. So anyway,
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Alex, now that he's seen
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Andy No's tweet, the tone
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of this is entirely different. Oh,
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boy. And who knows if even
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Salvador Ramos is the real shooter?
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Who knows if any of this is true? Who knows
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if these photos are real? Who knows if
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the guy in the skirt's real? Who knows
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if any of this is real? Because the
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media lies so much and we
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have a right to say we don't believe what we're
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hearing. Such a strange shift
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in tone. Alex is
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clearly worried that what he'd been saying
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this whole show looks bad
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now that it's become clear that he
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was identifying the wrong person as the shooter.
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All this show has been
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like, we got pictures of the reported
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shooter and then straight demonizing trans
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people. And now all of a sudden, Alex
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doesn't know if anything is real.
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He's gone from a sensationalist bigot
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propagandist perpetuating a 4chan
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hoax to someone so skeptical they can't
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even prove that the person sitting next to them
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is real. This is pathetic stuff.
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I mean, he's retreated
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into a world of like,
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you have to prove everything. It's what he did
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in the depositions. You know,
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he retreated back the moment he got
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the moment he had to
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confront reality. And he
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cannot get away with this.
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He has to not do what he's about to
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try to do, right? He immediately
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backs off and he's like, listen, I mean, I
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don't know if it's, I'm not saying that I know
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it's, all I'm saying
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is that there are questions that sometimes
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people need to ask, and I don't know if it's this guy
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or that guy. What he might as well be doing is
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admitting guilt. Before we get anywhere,
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we have to try and
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prove that existence
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is something that everyone experiences.
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To bake an apple pie from scratch, you must
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first create the universe. Yeah,
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basically. So they take
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another caller. My point
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there is just that it's glaring,
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the difference in tone. Yeah,
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it's bananas. And there's a reason.
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So they take another call, and
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this guy has a fun
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idea that's never going to happen.
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Alex, I finally
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get to talk to you finally, and for once
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I want to let you know, you
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Owen and Harrison
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need to go on Joe Rogan's podcast.
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Please clip this and send it
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to him so that he can hear this.
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Thousands of people want you guys, all
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three of you, on the podcast. Yes, yes,
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I know people
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want me on Joe Rogan's podcast. I'm friends with Joe.
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There's a lot of political pressure.
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Obviously, people want us on
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Joe Rogan's podcast. He gets the highest ratings when
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we go on there. It would be great.
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That's kind of
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begging the question there,
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but yes, I appreciate your call. Yeah, I'm not
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getting back on that show probably, maybe
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for a long time, and
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he has just enough patience
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for me. He does not want my lackeys
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to come on. Oh, no.
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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But I do actually think that this is something that
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callers and listeners of Alex's show
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should really ask themselves.
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Like, okay, yeah,
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Joe is fine
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a couple times
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having Alex on. And he has a lot of
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fucked up weirdos come on.
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But weirdly, he does not
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invite on
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people who are like a bunch of Alex's
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crew.
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His whack pack, for
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lack of a better term.
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Where's Dr. Marbles?
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I don't know. He's not going on
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a show, Rogan, that's for sure. No.
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And, like,
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Skousen. Why would he get Skousen
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on Rogan?
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I see that is unlikely.
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Rogan's not going to get any
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clout from having
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Roger Stone on his podcast.
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Yeah, although I think that would be interesting.
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That would be interesting. That would actually probably be
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the first time I'd listen to a Rogan episode.
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Of all of the people in Alex's orbit
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that, like, you know, obviously
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Rogan is probably
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not real interested in
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talking to. Right, right, right.
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That is the one that is at least, like, really
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famous. Yeah. It would make sense.
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I think Mike Lindell could go on
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there. Nah. Yeah.
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What if Rogan needs a little spending
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money? That hundred million goes
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away real quick, you know?
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You don't know what you're spending it on. I don't know if it goes away that quick.
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I don't know.
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I mean, like, look, I don't have a hundred million dollars
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and
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Mike Lindell couldn't pay to get on this
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podcast. That's fair.
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That is fair.
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So, I mean, like, Alex is being, you know, he's
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talking about, like, this idea of, like,
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you know, dancing around the I'm not
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going to be on Rogan kind of thing. Right, right, right.
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And that's kind of why you see him on these other podcasts.
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Yes. Is because he doesn't
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have access to the top
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tier. And that's why you don't see Harrison
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on any podcasts. No.
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Because he fucking sucks. And when you see
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video that Harrison made being
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pushed on Tucker Carlson, you
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have to pretend that it's not from an Infowars
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host. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's from
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completely different stuff. Right.
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Never heard of it. So, Alex,
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you know, he always talks about having the globalist
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playbook in a way that is, like,
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I know what they're going to do. Sure.
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He talks a little bit more about this, and I honestly
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think that the way he's describing this here
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is meaningless.
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If they don't have totally controlled
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rigged elections coming up for the
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midterms, they're going to have to do something
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to either curtail people from voting
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or to just not even have an election.
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I mean, we're in crazy...
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See, the globalists are predictable
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in that we know they have
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these plans up their sleeves. How they're
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going to decide what they want to roll out.
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Exactly. They have the cards in their hand. We know
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the plays they can make. Like,
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even if you stole, like the
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Patriots are known to do,
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the other side's playbook. You don't know when they're going to
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play a play. Yeah. So we have the
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playbook. We just don't know what play they're going to
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play. That means nothing. You have
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nothing. We have... Okay, so
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when I watch... Let's say we were playing
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a football game, right? And I'm the coach.
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I'm watching tape on a
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45 minute football game or whatever it is.
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Right?
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So I know all the other teams' plays.
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Yeah. Right? Because I've watched them play them
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over and over and over again. So naturally
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that means that I know exactly what they're going
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to do, and we will win the game every time.
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Right? No. But I mean,
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like, obviously the advantage
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that you have of knowing a team's plays
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is like the way they line up. It's better than not knowing their
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plays. Right. The way they line up will give you
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some indication of what the play might be.
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Tendencies, those types of things, yes.
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Alex engages
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with a globalist like that, but he's wrong
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every fucking time. Right.
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Well, I mean, it's like if Alex was the
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coach of the
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Bengals, and I was the coach of the Patriots,
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and I had the Bengals
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playbook, and Alex had
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the playbook for, like,
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I don't know, the Cincinnati Reds.
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You know? Sure. Wrong sport. Right.
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You know, it's trouble. Right. And
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for the Reds, the play is, catch the ball.
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Yes! Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He's like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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How do I throw a curveball? Now, the
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thing that he's describing is essentially, like, if I were
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to boil this down into, like, more
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realistic language, it's, I've come
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up with a bunch of stuff that I constantly
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say the globalists are going to do,
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and I don't know when they're going to do
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these things or if they're going to do them,
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but, hey, these are all
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the things that I've decided my enemies are capable of.
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Yeah. It's meaningless.
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It's stupid. No, you might as well have a whiteboard
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and just write down random thoughts that
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he has of things that might be bad, and then
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just write them up there, and then if he doesn't like it, he'll
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erase one and be like, these are all the things the globalists do.
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Yeah, this is now the playbook. Yep. Amended.
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Yep. So I have bad news.
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Oh, no. It's the summer of rage.
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There's
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already, it's the liberal summer of rage.
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Okay, so the liberal of summer of rage
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is upon us. They do this
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every election cycle. 2020,
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we saw them burn half of America down to the ground
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and the two dozen dead
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and everything that trailed the Democrat summer
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of rage. So if you count midterms,
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every other summer is a summer of rage?
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Every other summer is a summer of rage.
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And it's always and only the liberals
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doing it. And so the other
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summers are the summers of...
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They're off rage. Yeah.
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The summers of... It's like El Niña, El Niña.
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Reflection. You know, it's like, it's that kind
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of thing. Yeah, in between, there's
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the summer of rage in the election year
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and on the off year, it's
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the summer of reflection
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and taking stock of
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what happened during the rage. Right, right,
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right, right, right, right. This is dumb.
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Immediately followed by the fall of
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malaise. Yep. So we have
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one last clip here and I mean
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if I were to put a button on
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this whole show,
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it's been meaningless. Yeah.
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But yeah, here Alex explains why he
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did the show.
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Great job. I want to say great job of the crew.
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We got to all those calls. Thank you Ventura.
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We took like 20 calls. We had
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Ted Nugent on. Didn't take 20. We came in
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because those dead children are important
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and people trying to capitalize
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on their murder are bad people.
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So we had to come in because we knew Biden
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would show up tonight. To capitalize on their murder. We knew all the
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shows would show up and if we as conservatives,
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we as Christians,
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we as populists, we as pro-humans
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don't show up
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when the enemy shows up, we've
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given them a feel. But to the crew
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that already worked 18 hours,
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you showed up.
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Mr. Wolf over here.
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Been here since this morning running the boom.
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You showed up here Wolf.
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Everybody showed up. Owen showed up
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and we'll show up thanks to your backing tomorrow
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8 a.m. Central
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with American Journal Harrison Smith.
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Alex Jones 11 a.m. Owen Schroyer 3 p.m.
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Thank God no one's on the
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Alex isn't trying to profit off.
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Those are bad people. People who are trying to be
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opportunistic and profit off of
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this kind of thing.
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Bad people.
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Conservatives and Christians really love showing up after all those
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go try and make sure other children get murdered later.
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Ted Nugent wasn't trying to
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direct people to his subscription
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website or anything.
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People who profit off of this type of thing are bad
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people, Dan.
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Message received.
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You got it. You know exactly
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what you're doing.
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This obviously
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is difficult material.
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Perhaps
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Alex's stuff isn't
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as
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viscerally grotesque as it
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probably could be in the immediate.
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But I think some of that is probably just
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because he knows
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that
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he could get in trouble.
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If I were to put a button on this episode
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it would be 300,000 pounds
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and I would drop it from 10,000 feet above
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the Cold War studio. That's what I would do.
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It's a super reinforced
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structure. You're never gonna... Damn it.
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So the
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obviously
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the main thing
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and the main point is
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that this is a tragedy.
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And obviously
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whatever
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condolences are appropriate
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and very sincerely and
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heartfelt go out to the families
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affected and the community of Vivaldi
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as a whole.
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I think that
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there is a real challenge
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in terms of talking about
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this through the lens of Alex Jones
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or at least our next episode will be much
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more difficult because of the
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conflicting and contradictory
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statements that have come out and
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the
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malleability of
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what's been
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put out by the police. Right.
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The cops have lied so much that we're fucked.
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That's a
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blunt way to put it. Yeah.
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I don't fully feel
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sitting here now recording this episode that
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we have a concrete
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answer on a lot of stuff. Oh no.
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I think investigations are probably
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necessary to get to
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a concrete answer. And so that will
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be more challenging than
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say Alex's demonizing
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of trans people and misidentifying this person.
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Right. It's a lot more
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easy to say
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this is what happened. Yeah.
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And so I think that there will be
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a challenge and we'll
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have to cross that bridge.
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Yeah. Um. But.
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Yeah. Anyway. I hope everyone
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out there is doing alright.
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Yeah. We're. Yeah. We hope
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that things are. You know.
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There's a little bit of distance
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but it's still so fucking
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fucked. Yeah. So fucked.
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And the moment you investigate cop
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lies you just find more cop lies you know.
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Like every time they
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every time that you started like
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oh this was a little bit. This timeline
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doesn't make sense. They're like well there's a different
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timeline. And then you're like well that one can't make sense.
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Save it for next time. These thoughts
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are relevant for next time. Yep.
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Um. So we'll be back.
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Indeed. But until then we have a website.
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We do have a website Dan. It's knowledgefight.com
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And hunternation.org. No.
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No. We'll be back.
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Also we have a Twitter. Yes. It's at knowledgefight
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and I go to bed Jordan. Yep. We'll be back.
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But until then I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX
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Clark. I hope you all have a dreamy
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creamy summer. And now here comes
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the sex robots. Andy in
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Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work. I love you.