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Latest revision as of 23:45, 1 March 2025
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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.
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I have great respect for Knowledgefight.
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Knowledgefight.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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I love you.
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Challenge Fight, Dan and Jordan, Knowledgefight.
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Need money, Andy and Kansys, Andy and Kansys.
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Stop it, Andy and Kansys, It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansys you're on the air, thanks for holding me.
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan.
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I love your world.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes that like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little
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bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan!
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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Yes, sir.
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What's your bright spot today?
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My bright spot today is I'm talking into a new microphone.
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Oh, that's right.
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We are talking to a new microphone.
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They look the same.
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I completely forgot.
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Exactly the same.
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They're the same.
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Still cheap as a pad microphone.
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Yep.
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But they're new.
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I noticed some poppling and crackling in a couple of our recent episodes.
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I decided it was time to get at least new cords, and man, this new windscreen feels
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good on my face.
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It does.
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It's much smoother.
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It doesn't have years of other people's faces on it.
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Yeah, pre-COVID.
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Pre-COVID, other people's faces.
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You're the only one who's touched it since then.
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For four years, we're the only ones who've touched it, yes.
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Yeah, it's nice though.
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I bought a desk mic stand as well, but it does not attach to the mic holder, so I still
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have some work to do on that, but yeah, it's my weekend warrior type project for today.
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I love it.
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How about you?
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Similar weekend warrior type project, Dan, I have for probably 13 years lived in apartments,
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in apartment buildings with people around me.
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And so when I left for apartment living, I also left my drum set behind.
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I miss it.
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Your guy likes to throw some sticks around.
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I played drums since I was like eight years old, and then I had to stop at 19 for the
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aforementioned reasons.
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And it has been difficult, and finally I realized that you can get an electric drum kit for
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like 300 bucks.
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So I got one.
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Wow.
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And it's fantastic.
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Wow, how about that?
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It's very cheap.
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It's garbage.
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I'm going to break it in a week.
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Yeah.
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It's going to be like when I played rock band.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Exactly.
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Just destroying those pads.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to die to death.
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But it is so good to get back to drums.
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Somehow it's still going to be too loud for your partner.
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Totally.
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She's still going to be like, keep it down.
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Well, I've also, here's the weekend warrior, the last time that I tried having a conversation
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while she was at work, our rooms share a wall.
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Right, right.
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And I am me.
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Loud.
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Loud.
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And I have a tendency to toss language about in jest.
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Not to fit for the classroom.
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No.
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Her high school students have heard me speak, so I bought some soundproofing shit, so my
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entire room is going to be turned into a studio, essentially.
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Good luck with that.
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Soundproofing is kind of tough unless you can get inside the walls.
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Yeah, I'm working on it.
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Well, that's fun.
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I hope you have some nice fun Dave Grohl-esque drumming adventures in your future.
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Love it.
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Hey, who hasn't played along to Queens of the Stone Age songs for the dead?
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I have, only on rock band.
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Yeah.
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But see what I'm saying?
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You're not even a drummer and you've played along with it.
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You've never played Everlong on rock band.
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Well, that one's fairly easy.
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Not on expert.
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Yeah, you don't know your sixteenth notes, brah?
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No, I don't.
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It's very fast.
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My foot gets tired.
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I miss rock band.
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You let the sticks do the work.
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That's what a lot of people don't know about drums.
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You think you gotta hit it with your arm.
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You just move your wrist up a little bit.
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You say that and it's like a cryptic mystery or something.
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No, it's not a mystery.
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You let the sticks do the work.
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You let the sticks do the work, Dan.
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I don't know.
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I loved rock band.
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I spent hours, hours trying to 100% helter-skelter on expert.
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I don't think I ever succeeded.
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You never succeeded.
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I think I tried it hundreds and hundreds of times because you get an achievement in Beatles
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rock band if you're 100% on expert.
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I just couldn't get it.
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Couldn't get it.
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Couldn't do it, huh?
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Ringo, gotcha.
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Yep.
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The classic drummer that throws people on.
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Look.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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A lot of the other songs are pretty easy, but helter-skelter is a little complex.
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Sure, sure.
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I'm also not very good at rhythm based stuff.
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No, that's fine.
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I'm sorry if I... I don't mean to make fun of you.
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I'm just a bully.
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I'm a bad person.
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That's all right.
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I'm sorry.
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It's okay.
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Okay.
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So, Jordan, today we got an interesting thing on our plates in front of us and that is that
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we don't really have an episode.
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That is an interesting thing on our plates.
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Yeah.
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So, here's what happened.
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What's that?
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I did not want to do another episode for today about Alex.
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I wanted to push that to Wednesday because I needed personally a break from him.
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I was tired of his bullshit.
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Last week was emotionally exhausting.
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Yeah.
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Starting on the preparation for Friday's episode on the 8th straight through to present, it's
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been a lot.
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It's been a lot of stuff that I grow weary of and then at the same time the payoff of
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the interview with Steve Pechenik on our last episode was almost two.
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It was season ending.
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Yeah.
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It felt like it was a fucking season finale.
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We got CVPs giving us the fucking cliffhanger.
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And telling Alex to his face.
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When is he going to come back?
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Yeah.
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I have been lying to you for 20 years.
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I decided to anoint you as the vehicle by which I would set off a military coup.
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Wait.
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Hold on.
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Hold on, doc.
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I have been the puppet master.
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Yeah.
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You think you're in control.
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No, sir.
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Hi.
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Yeah.
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There's something about that that was so satisfying and narratively interesting to
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me that I found myself having a really tough time going back to Alex.
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Yeah.
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And I know it'll be temporary.
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I'll be able to get back on the horse soon, but I sat down to try and listen to other
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episodes and I just like, I can't do this.
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Yeah.
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And so what I wanted to do, naturally in times like this in the past, what we've done is
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we've gone to various other online space weirdos.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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If we could.
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And so yeah, I checked in on Carrie Cassidy over at Project Camelot and she had a video
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the day after the storming of the Capitol.
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She's on some Q bullshit for 100.
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You bet.
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Yeah.
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100% zero, zero possibility that that wasn't going to happen.
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No.
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I got really bored listening to that too because aliens weren't in play.
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Yeah.
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Why would it, what did you say?
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Get the fuck out of Q and get back into space, lady.
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I did find out from listening to this, but it wasn't worth getting too deep into.
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There's apparently an Archon alien, a singular one.
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Okay.
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Just one.
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That runs the CIA.
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Okay.
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It did not know that.
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All right.
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Okay.
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I didn't learn that.
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Okay.
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And it used to be this guy Archon, right?
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Right.
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But I think Carrie has some intelligence that he might have died and now there's a female
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Archon that's in charge of the CIA.
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All right.
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Unclear.
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Prove that he's dead and not a shape shifter.
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Can't do it.
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Yeah.
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Can't do it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Carrie, bring it to me.
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So then I was like, well, I bet Jim Baker's disappointed and I still don't like talking
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about Jim Baker.
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I don't know why.
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I just don't, it still makes me a little bit uncomfortable.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think that I'm not going to be able to go back to that well ever.
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Eh, fuck Jim Baker.
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I just, I don't, what is he going to say?
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God does shit.
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Well, we moved on.
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Talk about how great his big ass bucket of oatmeal is.
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You and I have both read the Bible and eaten survival food.
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We can just move on.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So then of course I, I was, I was kind of like in a bind.
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I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do.
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Got to get something together.
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And then I remembered that when I was looking at pictures of the Capitol on the sixth, yeah,
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I saw somebody wearing a pass the salt shirt, which of course is the name of Dave Dobenmeyer,
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coach Dave.
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It's the name of his radio ministry, his YouTube broadcast ministry.
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Pass the salt.
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I saw that.
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I was like, whoa, there's Dave Dobenmeyer shirts at the protest at the people storming
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there at the Capitol.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Was he there?
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That would be amazing.
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Who else is wearing a Dave Dobenmeyer shirt?
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Well, it wasn't him.
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I would have recognized him in the picture.
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Okay.
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But I was like, coach Dave had to have been there, right?
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And so I went and I checked.
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Sure.
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Dave Dobenmeyer was at the Capitol.
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He could not possibly have been there.
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Really?
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He was at the Capitol.
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Dave Dobenmeyer decided to go storm the Capitol.
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Coach Dave.
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Son of a bitch.
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Yeah.
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He led the football team in through.
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I can't come up with a metaphor.
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Hey guys, win one for the Gipper.
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So today I wanted to take a little bit of a look at that, but it's not really much of
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an episode.
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I wasted a lot of time watching these streams for what will ultimately be kind of, I don't
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know, a little bit deflating.
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It's not going to be, look, if you like our show, tune back in on Wednesday.
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We will have a full episode if you're expecting that.
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But we're going to listen to a little bit of Dave Dobenmeyer.
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What if an episode of like Battlestar Galactica was like, hey guys, this is a bottle episode.
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We couldn't afford to really do much here.
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Listen, if you want to see some space shit, come back next week.
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So one of the things that I thought was really funny is on the sixth, Dave is, uh, coach
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is a recording, uh, and doing a live stream from the Metro, from the train in DC.
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So it's a little bit iffy, the sound is not great.
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The connection is eh, but one of the things that he does that I think is really maybe
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unfortunate in hindsight is he literally doxes every single person who's on that train with
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him going to DC.
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Like if any of them went in the Capitol, his broadcast could be identifying information.
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It will, it's look, it's obvious.
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This was always going to be the case that this would happen, but the fact that the people
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most afraid of Bill Gates tracking them all the time have docked themselves so completely.
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It's just, it's never not going to be obvious.
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He's just going around like, Oh, this is Greg from Idaho.
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Totally.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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Don't do this.
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Oh man.
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I love it.
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Yup.
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Yup.
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So, uh, Dave gets to, gets to talking about how many people they're going to be there.
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I do like how it seems the only people who are uninterested in doxing each other are
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Antifa.
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They're the only people who are like, Hey, if you're going to video people, don't put
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their face in it or say their real names.
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Everybody else is like, I'd love to be on TV.
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Yeah.
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Here's my social security number.
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Exactly.
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Are you from Nigeria?
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I met a guy once.
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So he gets to talking about how there's going to be so many people there.
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And this is, this is big.
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This is not just a protest from what I, what I saw Dale, 4 million, they said there's possibly
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4 million people that are going to be here in downtown Washington, DC, very, very strong,
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powerful message.
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And most of the people have not come just to chant for more years.
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No, I don't think so, coach.
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I think it's, it's far beyond that once again, Donald Trump is not going to call.
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He called for this rally.
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He has a platform at nine this morning.
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I believe he is going to talk.
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He's not, it's not a pep rally.
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I do not believe this is game on.
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Remember we talked about, you know, we always have 11 men on offense and 11 men on defense
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in the field.
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This is like, this is like the, the coach turning to the stadium and saying, get on
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the field.
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Now's the time I think I might be feeling inspired to write a book, your honor exhibit
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eight.
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I feel like there'll be, there's a great book to be written about like all of the right
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wing media stuff prior to the Capitol storming called this looks bad in hindsight.
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Yeah, totally, totally.
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But ultimately the thing that's really interesting about it is it's not really that different
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than the way they talk normally.
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You know, it's, it's pretty much hubris, a Nazi tale.
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So there's a guy on the bus there and Dave goes around and he, he, he checks in on the
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temperature of the people in the crowd.
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Sure.
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Hey, how are you doing?
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Hey, how are you doing?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And this guy says it's now or never.
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Well, I'll tell you what, it's time.
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We stand up.
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This is it for our country.
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I'd say either now or never.
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I've enjoyed the blessings of the United States of America for 74 years.
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And I, I just don't want to see it go basically to the communists.
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That's what we're looking at.
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We've got to hand it off to our children.
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It's our children, grandchildren.
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That's it.
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Yeah, man.
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The commies, they're coming and it's now or never, you got to stand up and fight these
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commies or else your grandkids aren't going to have a capitalist country to live in and
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have a great time with.
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I like, I like the real low tier of these guys because I recognize how they talk and
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that is exactly like comedy producers who have never put on a good show.
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Hmm.
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I think we're going to have about 4 million people here tonight.
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Oh yes.
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Yeah.
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That is, that is awesome.
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I think we're going to have so many people here tonight.
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I'm telling you, I've heard, I got so many Facebook messages.
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People are committed to showing up.
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Yeah.
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You should have been here last week.
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Oh, well actually it was going to be 4 million, but it rained.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I forgot that there was a Bears game today.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh no.
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It's Sunday.
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There's always a good one.
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Yes, exactly.
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Your show is weekly on Sundays.
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You got to know there's football.
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Got to know there's football, man.
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Um, so yeah, they are a little bit, uh, there's a little bit of pride or a little bit of expectation
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and excitement.
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It's definitely palpable.
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You can tell like they feel like they're getting ready to go do something more than chant for
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more years.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
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Yeah.
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The electricity was clearly in the air.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And, and, and, and interestingly, I mean, I think that, um, the people who are there
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have a lot more to say than just that Biden stole the election.
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Um, there's certainly some ideas that are being trafficked on this bus that are interesting.
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Great ideas.
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Any highfalutin ideas?
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Clyde's going to tell us how to become a citizen of our local state's revenue.
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Actually what you're doing is you're moving from the admiralty and a jurisdiction of the
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sea to the jurisdiction of the land and the soil.
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And it's just very simple.
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You just remove yourself.
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You go through the process of the paperwork to remove yourself as a U S citizen and become
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a citizen of the state you were born in.
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Sure.
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And join the assembly of states in your state.
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That sounds right.
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And then you become a state national or a state citizen.
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Oh, of course.
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There are rumors that Trump is a state national and has already gone through this and understands
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all of this.
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And what we have to do, we've talked about succeeding.
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We don't need to succeed our states.
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We need to succeed ourselves one at a time and move over to the land jurisdiction.
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And what we're doing right now is thanks to judge Anna von Reitz.
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She's done all the paperwork so that we're now right now are repopulating the original
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constitution of 1787.
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So I think Anna von Reitz, if I recall correctly, is somebody that I've heard Carrie Cassidy
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bring up quite a bit.
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So there's a nice little overlap.
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Sure.
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Of that.
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Yeah.
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I wrote in a scream.
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I wrote in a scream.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's why we're in the room, can't tell those are big old letters.
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Those are big old letters.
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What do we got there?
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He just basically said, all right, that the president that they love most is not an American
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citizen.
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Yeah, that is a problem with his theory.
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Yeah.
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But that's because sovereign citizens are higher up on the ladder.
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So you're going to come at me with Obama wasn't born here and then you're going to tell me
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that your president isn't even American?
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Well.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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Paper American.
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What is that even?
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Constitution of 1870.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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That's all just QAnon sovereign citizen shit.
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It's a bummer.
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It's a real bummer.
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It's amazing to me how important paperwork is to these people and how unimportant reading
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is.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's fun too because you know, you got Dave here, coach Dave on the bus and he's having
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this guy explain how you become a citizen of the land.
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Yeah.
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You got to take your away from the admiralty.
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And he's not like, I don't know about that, man.
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He's like, oh great, I can't wait to have you on the show again and talk more about
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this.
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Yeah.
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What?
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So good.
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But look, this guy knows what he's talking about.
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I think he went to law school.
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So our whole movement, I believe, is going to be about teaching people how to get out
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of the jurisdiction of the admiralty law and the law of the sea and the Vatican, which
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is the law of the air.
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The law comes from L-A-W, land, air, water.
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That's where the word law comes from.
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The three jurisdictions.
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The Pope figured this out in 1300.
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That's who we're living under right now.
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The Vatican.
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The same pope?
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All of this is under that.
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The only way to get out of it is to go and land in soil and get back under the constitution
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of 1787.
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Sure.
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Land, air, water.
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That's what law means.
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Are we doing this?
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Are we doing this, Dan?
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We're not.
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The Vatican is the law of the air.
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Right.
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And then I think the British empire is the law of the sea.
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Sure.
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The maritime law is under the British common admiralty law.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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And then I guess the land is just everybody.
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The land is freedom.
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The land is just the constitution of the United States.
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Freedom.
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Yeah.
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But not the United States, individual states.
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Right.
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Because we're also the articles of people?
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Does this apply to people in other countries?
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Like the law of the ground?
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The Vatican owns their air, so they don't have any choice.
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See, the pope figured this out in 1300.
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Figured what out?
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That law means land, air, and water.
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In what language?
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It's not spelled that way.
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Oh man.
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All right.
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Earth, fire, water, air, long ago.
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My father.
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Was the avatar.
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Talk about elements.
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Oh man.
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J.K. Simmons.
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Fantastic!
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Elements equal jurisdictions.
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You ever fuck with Avatar, Dan?
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No.
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Not the Cameron bullshit.
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I'm talking about young boy with air powers.
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I watched the James Cameron movie because I was brought along to it by friends who insisted
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I go see it.
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That was a terrible idea.
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No, wait.
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That's Serenity.
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Serenity's great.
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But I also saw Avatar because it was too big to not see.
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Well.
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You know, it was one of those things that like, you gotta-
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You didn't see the last, the Rise of Skywalker.
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I'm an adult.
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It's a joke.
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There was a time when that came out, I was of the age where it's like, yeah, you gotta
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see this.
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Well, sure.
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People are going to be talking about it.
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Yes.
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And I don't care about that now.
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No.
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So, I think I did see the last Skywalker.
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You did not.
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I think I did.
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When?
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When?
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Tell me when.
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When did you get it on DVD, Dan?
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Yeah.
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It's under the red box.
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No, I think I did see it though.
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We'll deal with this later.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Anyway, there's three jurisdictions.
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Sure, sure.
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Law.
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Okay.
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We're all under, wait, he's saying that we're under maritime law, but apparently the Vatican,
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that's air law.
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Yeah, I would like to- That's avian law.
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Before we go any further, in any conversation with this guy, I want to know exactly the
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laws of air.
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Mm-hmm.
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I want to know what air law is that the pope has control over.
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Yeah.
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If I were to go any further in this conversation with this guy, which I wouldn't, here's how
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I would go.
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What's over there?
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And I just walk.
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Smoke bomb.
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I had a friend who really perfected that move, like pretending that he saw something somewhere
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else- Oh, really?
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And just would walk off.
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I really admired the hell out of his ability to get away from things.
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You know, I've done that many times.
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You know you get into those party conversations where it's four people and the three of them
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start having a conversation and you're like, I want to jump in, but it's just not going
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to happen.
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You look over and you're like, oh my God.
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And then you just walk away.
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You saw a friend.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think the key to pulling that off perfectly is that you have to end up somewhere that's
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not in direct eye shot of the people you just left.
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Sure.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because otherwise you're just going to be milling around over there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, Dave has heard that there's a lot to be worried about.
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There's a lot of threats- Sure.
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On the ground.
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There's like Antifa and what have you.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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He's not worried about any of that shit.
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I'm not worried that they may have bricks down there that they're going to throw at
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us.
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I'm not worried that they're going to shoot pepper spray at us.
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I'm not worried that the governor is going to call in this person and the mayor is going
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to call in this.
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I'm not worried about any of that stuff.
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Huh?
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We're at war.
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We're going to war.
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We're prepared for war, spiritual war.
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But if the physical war breaks out, there's going to be 4 million of us.
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They better have a bunch.
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They better have a bunch of people because this is a boiling-
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Well, here's a true work of authority.
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The mayor of D.C. has no military authority, not over the National Guard or anything.
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All she has is D.C. police and guess what, D.C. police will step, they will step aside.
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There's too many of them.
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So this doesn't look good in hindsight.
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Well, well, well, well.
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These sort of conversations certainly seem to be pre-, pre-, pre-, what would you call
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that?
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What's the right word I'm looking for?
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Uh, premeditated?
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Is that a way to go?
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I mean, it's very much like, oh, you know, like, if you accept the idea that like, oh,
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they kind of are planning on fucking storming the Capitol, you'd kind of be like, oh yeah,
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this is the kind of conversation you'd expect to hear before that.
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Before you storm the Capitol.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Hey, look, hey, we don't want any trouble, but if there's trouble, there's four million
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of us and the cops are on our side, so what the fuck?
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If the Capitol was the Constitution, these assholes are the preamble.
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Yeah, preamble was probably one of the words I was trying to look for, and I just couldn't
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figure out a way to make it work grammatically.
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So there's, there's these Capitol police, sure, and there's not enough of them, man.
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There's just not enough.
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There's not enough to stop Dave.
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Hey Dale, how many policemen would you say there are in, in, uh, DC?
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I'm just going to throw out another thousand.
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Yeah.
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You know, listen, Jefferson parish, Jefferson parish, we have, we have 1500 officers that
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not just officers, people who work in the desk and detectives and everything.
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And that's for a population of a half a million people.
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I don't necessarily know if they can have a thousand in DC.
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Here's my point.
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Do they have enough to push back?
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What if, uh, 500,000 people said they'd had enough of what if just, what if just 10%,
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what if 200,000 people said they had enough and decided they were going to storm the Capitol?
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I don't know if they're going to, I don't know if they're going to, what, what if that
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were to happen, folks?
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We don't have any idea what might break loose here.
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Now we, none of us want violence.
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None of us are advocating violence, but the truth of the matter is there's violence all
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around it.
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The Bible says that the kingdom of God suffers violence in the days of John the Baptist until
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now, the kingdom of God has suffered violence and violent men have taken up by force.
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See, listen, it's not the violence, it's the force.
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They're forcing us to take vaccinations.
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They're forcing us to close our shops.
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They're forcing us to not travel.
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They're forcing us to not go visit our parents in nursing homes.
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They're forced.
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You understand?
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Do you understand this?
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It's the same argumentation style that you hear from folks.
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Like we don't want trouble.
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We don't want any kind of violence, but all violence that could be seen as offensive is
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secretly defensive because they want to give me a vaccine.
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It's not great to hear this from someone who's presumably a religious leader.
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I would argue that spreading a disease is violence, Dan.
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Offensive violence.
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There's an interesting argument that you could make with that.
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And it seems like they are doing it.
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I would actually maybe, yeah, you'd want to probably have some qualification for like
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negligence.
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Sure.
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Or something.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Unless you're spitting on people.
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And then it's...
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Well, there's that.
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Then you're out of line.
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Eh, I don't know.
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If you're aware that wearing a mask can save somebody else's life, and you're like, I'm
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never wearing a mask, you have now committed violence.
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Yes, but how do you prove that the person actually believes...
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Even under your own libertarian nonsense, no, yeah, fuck off.
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But you would have to then prove that the person is aware that the masks help.
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They believe that, and are choosing to not do it.
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Because the denial could be strong.
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Sure, sure.
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I don't know if I care about denial.
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You may not.
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The court might, though.
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The court might, but it's kind of like a math problem.
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Like I don't care if you think that math doesn't work.
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It still does.
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So you have to live by math.
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Right.
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Fair enough.
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So they spend some more time on this bus, the reception gets bad, and then it goes to
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the guy in the studio, and when I say studio, I mean his office, and he's another preacher,
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and he just has some people pray and stuff, and I don't care.
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Then later, they arrive at the Capitol.
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There's at least one picture I saw that was of someone in a Pass the Salt shirt, so they
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were around.
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All right.
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And the D-heads is what I'm calling somebody who wears a Pass the Salt shirt.
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Hey, would you pass the salt?
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So we get to the next day now, the 7th, and Dave comes on his show, and there's a little
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bit of reflection going on.
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We are over the target, and as Alex Jones said about 25 years ago, it's an info war.
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It's an information war, and boys and girls, we are a dead center target in this information
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war.
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I'm not trying to... I'm just a fly on the butt of an elephant.
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I understand that, but I'm going to tell you something.
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We are over the target like we've never been.
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So he's just using Alex's language, he's directly referencing Alex.
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This dude's just a fucking info warrior.
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Man, I don't want to be killed by a bunch of cowards like this.
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I don't like the idea that this extremist political anti-communist ideology is being
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so successfully marketed under the veil of religion.
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I really, really think that that's terrifying.
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I would rather be killed in a fight with ISIS, because ISIS is at least like, I want to kill
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you.
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One of this wishy-washy cowardice from the conservatives just like, I don't want any
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violence, but I'm going to have to kill you guys.
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And then when violence does happen, whoa, whoa, whoa guys, we didn't ever want... At
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least ISIS is like, I'm going to kill you.
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There is a... terrorist groups generally do take responsibility for their actions.
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Yeah, for shit they didn't even do sometimes.
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Well interestingly, Dave has a very similar take on things after the fact that his hero
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Alex Jones does.
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Strange.
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Part of the information war that's going on, and here's going to be your greatest battle
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and my greatest battle, is you're going to have to convince the people that you come
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in contact with that what happened yesterday in Washington DC wasn't this.
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This wasn't what happened.
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The storming of the Capitol building, the infiltration of Antifa, BLM, as part of that
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infiltration.
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Yes, patriots did break through.
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They did break through and get into the Capitol building.
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Yes, but can I tell you something?
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Are you listening to me?
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They let us.
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Folks, listen to me.
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They let us break through.
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They let the patriots break through and then embedded BLM in the group.
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And all the wicked, crazy stuff that happened inside that Capitol building, that was not
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done by patriots, folks.
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That was not done.
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I love the idea that he's saying on the 7th, it gets suspicious that the cops let them
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through when the morning of- On the 6th.
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The cops are going to let us through.
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Yeah.
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It's very strange.
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It implies a real change of perspective about like, oh, this actually happened.
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Oh shit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I just see that so universally with these folks that you look in on.
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We got to find a way to not take responsibility for whoever shit on that desk.
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If anybody comes at me with like, listen to any conservative in the media now, it's just
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no.
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What are you talking about?
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Don't even.
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I can't engage with it.
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This was the moment where it's like, no matter what you do, you caused this and then you
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disavowed it, so go fuck yourself.
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You're a coward.
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Uh-huh.
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Yeah.
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A complete coward.
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You're worse than ISIS.
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Quite a ride for you in comparing things to ISIS.
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I'm enjoying it.
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They were good as, they were as evil as ISIS for a while.
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It was equivalent.
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Now they're worse.
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Wow.
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Yeah, it's bad.
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I think that one of the things that I found when I was looking at this was, first of all,
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I find Dave Dobenmeyer incredibly boring.
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Oh, he's bad.
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Yeah.
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And I don't know, maybe it's been a long time since I've looked at any of his actual shows
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or anything.
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It just struck me as like, you're just taking notes from Infowars shows and preaching with
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it.
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You're just doing that.
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It's stupid.
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It's almost like the idea of covering his show actually feels kind of like drinking
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backwash.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm not interested.
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Yeah.
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But he was there and this is an interesting set of circumstances, an interesting set of
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behaviors.
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He would be like, hey, Trump is telling us all to get on the field.
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You know, like, well, I mean the three jurisdictions thing, that's just good, clean fun.
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That's fantastic.
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Yeah.
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That's fantastic.
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They're literally talking about the possibility of storming the Capitol and how the police
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will stand down.
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There's not enough of them.
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Yep.
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And then the next day there's a conspiracy afoot.
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It's somebody else's fault.
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It's somebody else's fault.
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They're trying to set us up.
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No, we didn't do anything.
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The police let us in and when they let us in, they embedded Antifa and Black Lives Matter
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in there.
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We're doing this.
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We're so strong, but we're the victim.
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It's really dumb.
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Bunch of fucking cowards.
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It's very dumb.
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And perhaps so was this.
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Who knows?
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That's what I'm saying.
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I want a higher quality of criminal.
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I think I've said that before.
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Yeah, exactly.
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It's just that whole thing of just like, really?
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This is who we're up against?
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Come on, man.
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It is.
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This is the shittiest fascism I've ever seen.
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Yeah, I bet all of them have been disappointing in the moment.
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Yeah, well that's probably true.
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I bet over time they take on more of a serious character.
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Yeah, I imagine if I went and went back and watched a serious documentary about Mussolini,
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they'd be like, look at this fucking idiot.
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What are we talking about with this guy?
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How did he take over?
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Yeah, probably.
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Yeah, probably.
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Anyway, Jordan, I apologize that we don't have a full episode for today, but...
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Absolutely, this is a bottle episode.
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Battlestar Galactica is over.
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It's like that Breaking Bad episode with the fly.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But the fly is a coach.
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The fly is just Dave D'Aubenbier whispering like, hey man, it's gonna happen.
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Would you pass the salt?
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It's gonna happen.
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It's just a fly asking for salt.
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Alright, well, we'll be back on Wednesday with a full-on Alex Jones episode, but until
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then Jordan, we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, we're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledgejones.com.
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Now go to Matt Jordan.
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We're also on Facebook.
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We are on Facebook.
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If you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people
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doing God's work.
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Yeah, we'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark, I'm Daryl Rundis,
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I'm the Juiciest Ice Cube.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
