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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Indeed we are.

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Dan.

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Stop singing.

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Even though I started it.

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Okay.

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Fine.

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What's up?

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Dan!

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What?

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What was your first phone?

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My first phone?

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Your first cellular phone.

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Oh, cellular phone.

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Actually, you could go with regular phone if you want.

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Did you have a rotary?

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Did you ever have a rotary?

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I have a lot of memories of my parents having one of those turn wheel phones.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch.

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You put your finger in the hole and yeah, all the way.

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Yeah, those are terrible.

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If you're a millennial who's under the age of 25, then you don't even know, man.

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It's insane to think that that's what they decided on.

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Like, that was the presentation of phones.

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It's crazy to think back on that.

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But, yeah, I remember that.

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I don't know if I had, I know I had my own phones at some point growing up.

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growing up. But I don't remember any specifics like a Garfield phone or

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anything fun. Right. My first cell phone I got really late. Yeah. Was it a decision

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like your family was like your parents were like I don't know if he's ready to

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have a phone that kind of thing? I had no interest in it. No? I had moved out of my

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parents house and I didn't I just had a like a like a house phone. I really

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enjoyed at that point in my life the ability to not be contacted. Yeah. Like

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this is all before social media. Right. The glory days. I would go out and like

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come home and there would be messages and I really well not always I wasn't

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that popular but like I enjoyed the aspect of like there if I'm out and

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about I don't have like something that I won't be necessarily found. Yeah. Not that

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I'm on the run but I have a freedom of not being contacted. Right. And that went

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away very fast and I've just made peace with it now. I really can't even remember that

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feeling you know? I I can remember it I don't I don't it's hard for me to

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remember exactly what I loved so much about it. That has dulled with time. Right.

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But I remember enjoying it when I was 18 19 so I got a cell phone I got a

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flip phone and then I had that forever. Yeah. I didn't get an iPhone or any kind

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of smartphone until maybe four years ago. It's pretty close to that. You've been doing

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T9 all the way up to 2015? I had a flip phone for a very long time. Damn. Razor? I don't know I don't

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remember that it was a Sprint something or other whatever they gave me for free

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with a plan I had yes I had that and then I got a I got a smartphone just

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because I kind of gave in and the the flip phone was breaking and I went in

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they're like you're years overdue for an upgrade. Yeah. Do you just want an iPhone?

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Alright fine. Please sir. We've taken pity on you. Just take an iPhone. Super luddite with technology I am not super

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into the gadgets and not my buddy Nikki gifts was super into iPhones pretty

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early I was I I didn't judge him for his interest but I didn't have any of it I

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didn't have any interest. Did you have an iPod? Nope. No holy shit so you have you

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ever had an iPod? I don't think so. Maybe you maybe like a hand-me-down one

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from somebody else that I messed around with for. Or like an mp3 player of any

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kind you know. Yeah yeah I think I had somebody else's for a minute and then I

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didn't. You had a Zune? You tossed it out the window? I don't think I had a Zune. I did when I was

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driving like so this is how fucking stupid I am. Okay. Like I had a car in

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Missouri right and I didn't have any of the jacks to like plug a iPhone in that

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I didn't have to begin with. Yeah yeah right right. I didn't have a CD player in the car

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no issues but I wanted to listen to stuff that I would think I was choosing

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myself right the radio by that point is like I'm interested in this disaster I

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wanted to listen to podcasts yeah and so what I would do is I would take my

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laptop put it in the passenger seat of my car no driver no no refuse refuse

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yeah pass no thank you I don't even like having that image in my head very dumb

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very very dumb so this podcast where I don't know much about tech but I do know

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a lot about Alex Jones and I know way more about tech than you do but way less

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about Alex Jones. I would fucking hope so if you knew less oh man what a disaster I'd be

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wearing a burlap sack yeah yeah which is in my future yeah probably probably

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so Jordan we're coming off here on the Wednesdays very long very smorgasbord of

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sadness yeah that was there was something that was a lot to take in in

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order to do the episode and so today what I wanted to do is I wanted to go off the

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reservation completely we're gonna do a non Alex Jones episode perfect you might

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call it a wacky Friday episode free for all Friday nice something along those

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lines but I just needed a palate cleanser and on top of that you are

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about to leave for a vacation you'll be gone for a week oh yeah but we've

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recorded some episodes in advance and then get some fill-in folk for the the

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time that you'll be gone yeah it is a supremely supremely lucky that my

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partner's mother paid for a trip to South Africa sure that is that is

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something that I could never have even fucking imagined yeah that should be

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never could afford it it'll be a great time and I look forward to you coming

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back and being like Tommy Robinson is right I will actually be restarting

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Rhodesia while I'm there oh of course Bob way of course so I hope you have a

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great trip but I didn't want to send you off with an episode that was to like

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if we did another present-day Alex episode would be just out the window

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yeah I'd be stowing away on their plane South Africa and not coming back I got a

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big luggage for you so Jordan today gonna be interesting okay I don't want

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to get in I don't spoil too much ahead of time so let's let's do I recommend

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that what we should do is we should say thank you to some people who are signing

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up sign it up and supporting the show good deal so first I'd like to say

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thank you to Nick you are now policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you Nick

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thanks Nick next Katie thank you so much you are now a policy wonk I'm a policy

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wonk thank you Katie she donated to the show and then you know what else she did

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what barred the door oh oh next kit thank you so much you are now a policy

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wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you next I'm gonna fucking not be able to

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pronounce this name I think I think it's Haiti H ID DE Haiti sure I'd any of the

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could be there's a million pronunciations sure that might be and I

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apologize that I do not know what the correct pronunciation is but I

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appreciate you all the same you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you

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hey then finally I'd like to say thank you to some people who donated on an

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elevated level we appreciate that very much so first Evan thank you so much

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next Veeder thank you so much old fire bones thank you so much and nom zod

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thank you so much you are all now wonderful technocrats I'm a policy wonk

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cranky mate that's fantastic have yourself a brew how's your 401k doing

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bro we got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson all right let's just get

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down to business we ain't making that money off that heroin why you pimps so

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good my neck is freakishly large I declare info war on you thank you so

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much Evan old fire bones Veeder and nom zod thank you very much to all of you

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and all I have to add is that you must kneel before absolutely of course all

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right Jordan I'll just I'll cut the bullshit about pretending I'm not gonna

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tease any or whatever I'm gonna not say what this episode is for a long time

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people have been asking that we get back into Jim Baker oh no I decided what we

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and we've tried yeah people have the there have been a lot of recommendations

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like we need more Jim Baker up in here yeah yeah and we've tried to satisfy

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that but a lot of Jim Baker stuff is so one note it's so the same and we've

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actually spoiler alert tried to record an episode that we in the middle of it

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were like this is not an episode yeah Jim Baker had a episode that he did that

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was all a banquet with his family yes his food but I remember it was like oh

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my god look at this great pancake it was insane it was insane yeah it's it's

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always fun 99% of the time if we take a day off of the episode we recorded the

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episode don't worry not 99% of the time but sometimes probably one of them

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because we like the spectacle of it and the idea that he's doing an entire

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episode which is me and my family eat out of buckets conceptually hilarious

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amazing yes in practice boring as shit a disaster so boring what I think like

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maybe 20 minutes in we were doing it we realized like what are we just gonna say

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this is stupid over and every time yeah this is the turkey that came from a

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bucket ha ha ha ha and it's 40 more times the best parody of that is go

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watch it yourself absurd so that kind of put a bad taste in my mouth for Jim

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Baker much like people who eat his buckets do nice but I was going through

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looking at his episodes that his recent episodes and I was like I was almost I

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almost fell for the siren song again because there was a three-part episode

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that is the clearing out the warehouse sale three full episodes of him going

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through his warehouse and be like well we got this bucket on sale damn it I was

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so close to doing it again but I knew that if we did we would end up in the

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exact same place of course we would be 20 minutes in and being like you can't

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put a hat on a hat this is absurd yeah so I decided I was gonna I was

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gonna in a rare instance of letting other media coverage direct me I decided

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to cover an episode that actually got a bit of press attention gotcha this is

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something that like right wing watch made fun of a little bit uh-huh and it's

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the it's an episode where Jim Baker invites a guy named Lance Wallnau on the

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show really sure and this guy is selling a gold coin that can connect you

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in prayer to each other and also Donald Trump god damn it I I really love these

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people that is what you know the the media covered and was making fun of and

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you know there's like a minute long clip of him trying to sell this coin I was

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like okay you guys are talking about that I want to see what else happened on

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that episode yeah that may have been the forest that was missed for the tree

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right of course so I decided to check in on that and I figured that that's if

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we're doing a Jim Baker episode this is as good as I can do for ya I could take

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somebody else something somebody else cover to be like what else is going on

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here so that's what we're gonna do what can we add that specifically about us

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well I that we can specifically yeah and I think there's there is some stuff yeah

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I think that there's a lot of more fucked up things than a guy selling a

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magic coin on this episode well the most fucked up thing is it's true it is it is

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actually true so here is the first clip where we get our dancing Queen

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introduction I'm using of it Tammy Sue Baker given us the the voice over god

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damn it and then we get to meet Lance Wallnau

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hello and welcome to the Jim Baker show coming to you from the village of

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Morningside snuggled in the beautiful Ozark Mountains today is day two with

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our special guest he's the director of the Lance learning group and a

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best-selling author welcome dr. Lance Wallnau our co-host today is Mondo de

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La Vega I'm Timmy Sue Baker and now please give a warm welcome to my parents

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and the host of the Jim Baker show Jim and Laurie Baker

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great to have you here on Gray Street and our special guest today Lance

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Wallnau is back with us you are on the cutting edge when did God first call you

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to be a voice for the church and for really electing the right officers I

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mean the right presidents the right senators are at Koshman so real quick we

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will get to his answer but right out of the gate Jim Baker's first question is

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like when did you get into theocratic politics yeah I know he didn't even

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there was no like there was nothing we're just gonna was still kind of going

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give me some give me it's like in the I could have used a little foreplay right

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I'm saying just diving in with like when did you decide to use religion as a scam

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to guide politics towards conservative when did God call you to ruin his earth

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real blunt I personally think that it was when I started hearing friends of

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mine like Rick Joyner and you talking about where America was at because like

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so many Christians I just wanted to preach spiritual Kingdom optimistic

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messages and focus on revival but I heard something in your voice and the

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and the way in which you had grounded it in real concern it was a cancer then I

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started reading Danish to Susan other people and I said oh my god I myself and

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part of the problem because as you are as a as a preacher as somebody had had

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an audience I was ignoring what was happening in the controversies of my

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country in the world in order to focus on solutions that are Christ centered so

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I would I would say that solutions that are Christ centered is what your what

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church is about that should be what you're focusing on no idea what you're

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talking about I I believe that what he's actually saying in that clip there

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beyond the I started reading Dinesh D'Souza which is always the most

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terrifying what he's saying is I was really afraid of losing 501 c3 status

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but then I saw what you and like Rick Joyner were doing I was like hey it's

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Thunderdome yeah I could do whatever I want there's no there's no bottom there's

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no floor gives us yeah I do love I do love the brilliance of the buttering up

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Baker strategy butter Baker it was because of you Jim Baker that there

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might be some truth to that Jim Baker's a legend in this hustle really well yeah

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no he is a legend in the hustle you're right I thought we were actually talking

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about religion well that's religion to some yeah that's true you know that's

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the that's the thing that's really difficult about something like this is

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like a lot of people who are taking in the message mmm probably are doing so in

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like some good faith yeah or at least without some sort of like they they

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aren't taking it in on the terms of it being a con right you know they aren't

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agreeing to like hey I want to get conned by this guy right there's a the

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evilness of it is specifically from the people disseminating right now the

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consequences which are negative are precipitated a lot of the times why

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people who believe the stuff yeah but they aren't necessarily I don't I don't

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believe all of them at least are signing up specifically for the scam yeah no I

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think there's a definite lack of guile I suppose would be the way to put it maybe

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that might be idealistic of us to think I'm not sure yeah but the if but this is

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just proof that if there was a God these people would be in jail forever I did

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very little research into this episode because who gives a shit absolutely but

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I did want to find out a little bit about who Lance wall now is yes no one

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it no one lives in his knows who the fuck this guy is absolutely not so he's

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a bit of a lunatic which makes sense seeing that he's a guest here on the Jim

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Baker show of course while now is a board member for the oak initiative group

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listed by the Council on American Islamic Relations as quote part of the

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Islamophobic Network in America really hoping they were planting trees to

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combat climate change there is a different oak at work okay initiative

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like a royal oak initiative is there I did find some tree groups yeah in 2011

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the oak initiative published a book called Islam versus the United States

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which purported to expose the quote all conquering character of many of the

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followers of Islam they were tuned routinely disseminate material that

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seeks to invalidate the idea that a mosque is a form of a church and argue

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that quote even in the watered-down versions it's clear that this religion

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promotes the destruction or enslavement of all who do not adhere to it quote

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watered down right as though that's a thing right what gets it like it's a

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stiff tee yeah what is that watered down Islam come on guys you guys are

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pathetic someone else who sits on the board of the oak initiative is Alex

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Jones's buddy lieutenant general William Boykin of course

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noted Islamophobe of the highest order I paused there because I thought you were

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gonna do your blanket now I'm past it I've grown up I'm still stuck on wall

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now all now it's the oak initiative as well his name is wall now it's not wall

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nuts and then it's a driving me insane yep you're gonna have to put those on

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the back burner because there might be other things then sort of similarities

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to legumes that will come up it's like a bad slant rhyme so Boykin made a video

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ah-ha you're back you tricked me so Boykin made a video for the oak

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initiative in 2010 saying that Islam is not a religion and should not be

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protected by the First Amendment a belief he based on his own determination

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that it was central to Islamic belief that Muslims had to destroy the United

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States Constitution in order to bring in Sharia law Muhammad did say that that

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was one of Muhammad's big things he was like eventually there's gonna be a whole

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country we're gonna need to take down its Constitution that's what we got to

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do the oak initiative is a major portion or met portion major player in the world

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of Islamophobia these narratives being perpetuated and disseminated into

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right-wing talking points and conversation but it's not only Muslims

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that they don't like the oak initiative is also fiercely anti LGBTQ and in 2015

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they paid to erect billboards in Michigan that depicted a gay man with a

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rainbow painted on his face accompanied by the text not born this way and quote

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homosexuality is a behavior and not a civil right this is a run-of-the-mill

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bigot organization seeking to do whatever it takes to support and

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maintain the status quo in this country of straight white male Christian

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supremacy so of course you'd not be surprised to learn that they're super

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into Trump and basically think he's the Messiah absolutely anyway that's about

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all you really need to know about Lance Wallnau he's a border that a board

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member of that trash organization right so you know he's an evil con man in the

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long succession of evil con men televangelist guys he's in that world he's

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appearing on another grifters religious scam program so you could get you know

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but I don't want to be one of these guys who goes ad hominem oh no of course we

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got to judge them by what they say now we know a little bit about who he is

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let's put that aside and let the man speak his peace so in this next clip we

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find out when Lance got politically involved apparently was after hearing

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Jim Baker and reading Dinesh D'Souza but that doesn't give us specifics right so

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the moment that I got called by accident up to the Trump meeting and I came out

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of that and and I walked I wasn't supposed to be there was like Kenneth

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Copeland was there and Paula White and I actually was so I got so insecure I went

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up to the doorman so real quick that he said Paula White came and Kenneth

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Copeland but Paula White came when he said that that would that that's in the

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original of the audio yeah like the Paul I were like I think he might have

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forgotten her name I'm not sure I think he might have yeah stammered her his way

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through her yeah gotcha and I said am I on that list because I thought there was

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a mistake made yeah everyone had a big ministry of something and the guy says

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yeah you're on the list I put you on the list I saw who are you he said I'm the

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PR agent I heard you in a little meeting down there in Florida and I made it a

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decision right then if I could get you in front of Trump you're going as I'm

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in the meeting a big boy room and Trump's talking and there's you know

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Justin Franklin in the chemical and I'm being quiet and actually customers do

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and I'm thinking man what am I just surreal what am I doing here and also I

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get a kick under the chair and that PR agent says you better say something and

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so he forced me oh my my mouth and start talking because I was just gonna be

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humble and just watch so I I spoke and after I spoke I got invited to another

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meeting and I was just speaking because I didn't want to embarrass myself in

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front of the guy that kicked my chair yeah but all I knew was Donald Trump is

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a wrecking ball of the spirit of political correctness I heard the Lord

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say that some people might have thought that clip was a little long so he gets

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invited to a Trump meeting that makes him politically motivated I suppose

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which is sure great cuz that you know means on some level these these meetings

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are as much recruitment as they are absolutely yeah let's let's get these

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preachers on board let's get them on ours let's get all these meme makers

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galvanized and yeah so and there's there's a strategy to all this I don't

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believe that God said that Trump was a wrecking ball to political correctness I

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don't know why God would say that I don't know if God not busy it's God

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concerned with political correctness is there is there a First Amendment in the

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Bible I think there might be I know there's one in heaven you get to call

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people all kinds of racial epithets in heaven well you have to yeah of course

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cuz if not you don't have full free will right and you gotta have that is really

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fucked up that I'd never thought about but their conception of heaven must

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include oh absolutely yeah it has to get to throw the n-word around all they want

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in heaven now I don't want to but I want to be able should I lose my job in

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heaven just because I called someone an F no they honestly believe that it in

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their heaven neighborhood if a black person moves in they all get to leave or

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whatever and go somewhere else they're insane these people are so stupid the I

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never thought about that but that is pretty weird so Trump is a wrecking ball

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to all that and as is Miley Cyrus sure she came in like one yeah while he was

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there at this meeting one of these meetings it's unspecified it's

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unspecific but I think it's that first one that he accidentally went to there

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was a what he describes as a black TV channel but it's not BET oh boy and they

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were doing some footage they're shooting some footage or so it's the details on

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this are sketchy right right I'm also not sure that this is true it might be

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true yeah if it's true I don't care but then also Jim and Laurie love this story

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they think this is just the best story unreal and I'm there and it was like one

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of the it was one TV program but it had like a whole african-american it wasn't

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BET but it was kind of like they were bringing all the pastors up that were

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that were african-american they're all yes so really well and then they see me

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standing along the side I was invited and they said live on television they

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said oh ladies and gentlemen look what we have over here it's Donald Trump's

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number two man Michael Cohen and they brought me over come on over and I'm in

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front of this audience and I'm staring at thinking what do I do and hand me the

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microphone say well mr. Cohen why don't you say something I tried to clear my

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throat I said I'm not Michael Cohen it's like I had like a Seinfeld moment it was

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so embarrassing I said I said Donald Trump is a wrecking ball to the spirit

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of political correctness but I'm going to get the microphone back right I look

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at all going wrecking ball right next thing you know everywhere you go

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wrecking ball wrecking ball wrecking ball and I realized I wasn't may not

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have been invited or maybe I don't know how I got in I don't know how I got on

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oh but at that moment I thought I guess this is what I'm supposed to do sorry

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supernatural problem has to be so he got a catchphrase and now he's famous great

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good work dude yeah oh man so I guess maybe this happened and then people

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someone wrote an article that crazy weirdo says Trump is a wrecking ball I

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don't know I don't there is a couple other instances of him taking credit for

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starting terms yeah so I think that might just be a thing of his yeah I'm

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not positive that I'm gonna give him credit for any of them I think people

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might have already been saying wrecking ball type language right and then that's

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why it came to his mind in this highly stressful situation where people think

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he's Michael Cohen and he's being I'm not Michael Cohen say something say

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small and what your subconscious pulls up is something you've already heard or

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maybe his daughter is a big Miley Cyrus fan yeah yeah that might be any of these

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things are possible it sounds borderline back to the future

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Marty McFly playing Johnny be good yeah yeah Johnny be good but like no no way

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people did invent rock and roll music don't even worry about it like that kind

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of that kind of shit bananas so this episode is largely contingent on Lance

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Wall now and Jim Baker having a conversation about how Trump is here

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because of God and that God's divine inspiration thanks to the actions of the

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church have brought Trump into office to save the church from the scourges of PC

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culture and the socialists and all the other things that they just don't want

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to say out loud right right all the racial epithets they can't wait to say

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in heaven absolutely yeah so that being really what this whole interview is

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about it's really weird to hear him say this about the Democrats the Democratic

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Party and we need to know this has been taken over it's not the Democratic Party

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of your mama's day like my mom could be a Kennedy Democrat and a Reagan

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Republican and and and all in the same kitchen table right that's what she

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loved Ronald Reagan it's kind of like there but now ideological alert the left

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has a movement within it that has gone into the Democratic Party to seize

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powers so what you've got is the radical new element that is taking over the

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party and pulling it in their direction that's where the socialism comes from so

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what you've got is they're throwing they're throwing Biden out there saying

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let's get somebody who represents the normal Democrat the left in their own

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party is taking over but he's not going to be able to handle it you probably

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won't he probably won't it's so insane for them to be doing this weird

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theocratic propaganda nonsense like the the God brought us Trump that show and

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then be like you know what the Democrats have been taken over by crazies what

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their party has been brought they've it's been pulled to the extreme side did

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he not he didn't realize what he was explaining right now I didn't realize

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that the civil rights movement is why you could be a Kennedy Democrat and a

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Reagan Republican I I think he didn't he didn't quite get that he was just

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explaining that it's all about race I think he might have been aware of that

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on a subconscious level perhaps it's it's definitely it's it's just because

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the left has gone too far it's not that a Kennedy Democrat may have changed

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after the civil rights movement and the Republican Party may have gotten more

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extreme when we elected a black president forcing everybody to drift a

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hard right it it definitely has nothing to do with race Dan it's definitely not

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two seminal moment it doesn't feel like it is no because actually what's going

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on is the Justice Democrats that's what it is have come around that's what it is

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so the Justice Democrats what they're doing is being sneaky all right all

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right all right what are we doing all right I don't even know if I am one

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what are we doing no the Justice Democrats or that organization that like

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ran AOC oh okay there there are the good people the people who adhere to Jesus's

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beliefs they I've read some interviews with the people who are involved with it

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and like getting it going and their whole idea was to create a centralized

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fundraising type of thing so they could run candidates that wouldn't have to

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worry about going out and doing fundraisers like taking care of a lot of

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that so the politicians could be politicians right because you can't have

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publicly funded elections they were trying to do the second best thing I

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would say yeah and and maybe that's woefully idealistic of us to imagine

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that any human could actually follow through with that well right right but

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whatever that plan is that's not sneaky that's just another strategy that's

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totally legal but these these these folks over on the Jim Baker show

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they got other ideas about what they're up to and it's sneaky you know we're

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telling me earlier about the American Idol election for presidents in other

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words you can all try out for Congress I don't tell the people about that yes

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you've done there I can confirm it with him because I don't tell tell them what

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exactly how this is done it's fascinating pretty much while they're

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doing is casting congresswoman congressmen in a way that if you were

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out to go get a movie role so there's a new Justice Democrat Party that is

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trying to get rid of the old Democratic Party by casting new people so as long

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as you're an activist in your community if you if you have the charm you're the

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candidate they're gonna be get behind with right so it's a new Justice

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Democrat Party that is pumping a lot of money using social media to get to your

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grandkids get to people in my age it's a new America it's a new America really I

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don't think he's I think he thinks that he said something bad well I mean say

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anything bad no because all he's describing is like all right there's an

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organization that helps support activists who are charismatic and

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electable get elected yeah isn't that what all this is I'm pretty sure that's

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what it is yeah how is this different than like regular why shouldn't you then

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be mad about like giant corporations giving donations to no no no no no

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because Cruz isn't an activist exactly these are these are middle center right

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or center left candidates and I just want everybody to come to the middle and

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I'm sure that giant corporations really are pushing those you know Center

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centrist what he's pointing the finger at in accusing the Justice Democrats of

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is not anything weird no but he's framing it in such a way as like they

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got big money and they're using social media to get your grandkids yeah yeah

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fuck off they're there they're definitely you know I they're doing all

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this on their own too they're not hiring some sort of shady third party that has

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a fucking history of committing farm it's weird yeah they're evil so this

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whole idea of their casting people spins out of control in this next clip once

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Lance picks up the narrative and starts running with it I think there's some

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pretty racist framing going on so far this is all racist this is all the most

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imagine this your your top three most controversial freshman Congress women

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yeah are really all coming through come on central casting saving a machine do

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it that knows how to get support behind you if you can fit the demographic so

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this is how this is how fascinating this moment in history is that real quick

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he's saying that you know these these three non-white Congress women are from

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central casting because they fit the demographic because they're not white

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right he's saying that the only reason that they could possibly be elected is

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because they are not white and Justice Democrats are sneaky exactly you can

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literally create then Andrew Breitbart said this he said which means this

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acting and your your your Hollywood entertainment your academia your media

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it sets the stage for what people want young people want then you have to go

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find the empty suit that you could fill with a candidate who will do what you

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want them to do to match what the market wants the media outlets are all working

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with this strategy so as to create in a sense you don't think there's other

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Congress people with more experience and more intelligent things to say they're

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not talking to them huh huh what what huh hold on one second what it's really

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weird that intelligence and experience are so important to him when he thinks

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Trump came from God right I don't well God I mean God's Trump's experience dad

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it's really clear what's behind oh yeah the thing that this is the narrative

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also that they love to pull that like their empty suits thing yeah every

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fucking congressperson is a team of people it's not like it's all Alexandria

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Ocasio Cortez's ideas she's got tons of people who are revising shit

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over and over and over does every congressman everyone yeah it's yeah it's

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that solitary that the big man yeah the great man great man theory of the

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present yeah is yeah they're so beholden to that and it's it's I think it's to

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their detriment because it really doesn't I it well I mean it's just dumb

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yeah I think it's something up with that even then how dare you you idiot the

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whole fucking point is they're a representative they represent a larger

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group of people right by definition well because all elections are stolen when

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Democrats win that's a fair point never mind so pass like you get you get off

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the hook for all that like yeah okay if this person was so terrible then people

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would vote them out by you know just like well no it's impossible because all

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elections are rigged three million illegal immigrants voted and then we're

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just trapped yeah there's nowhere to go so you know AOC Talib Omar empty suits

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Presley empty empty suit um but he you know the empty suits they're stupid the

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media just talks to them because they're central casting course now Trump by you

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know you know in contrast is a genius he's a communications genius really want

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to hear the justification for this when you do hear it it's gonna be

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disappointing no can Trump be reelected that's the amazing thing Donald Trump

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can be reelected in spite of the fact that all the machinery is being worked

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against him to just absolutely right on down to the social media purging that's

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happening yeah but he's a smart man so what has he been doing what is Brad

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Pascal's been doing and is on his team they've been collecting the data of

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everyone they want to talk to so that regardless of what social media gets

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shut down they're prepared to talk to their 50 60 70 million people directly

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the president's got plans to stay in communication he's really he's a

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communication genius he's a genius because he has was this was this brought

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to us by male kind yeah the innovative Donald Trump brings you an email list

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something that every shitty bar comedy show strives to create advertising tool

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if only what you've been involved some that don't use email oh I have clunky

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I've run them so yeah I mean like that's not good he's a genius because he uses

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any like one of the most elementary tools of the internet yeah see that's

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how you bypass social media you get an email address Dan that's the whole trick

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mm-hmm I really still doesn't work though because it's like Alex has been

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kicked off MailChimp yeah so those companies can still give you the boot

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well then they just start having a single people send out a email every day

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they'll just have a tree yeah absolutely yep that's probably it that sounds right

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so forward forward forward forward forward forward forward forward to my

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grandma uh-huh this next clip involves this this gent his name is he boys me so

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much that I don't remember his name I can't wait Lance so he is gonna make the

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argument that that the church got Trump elected and based on the levels of

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evangelical support that make no sense I would argue 100% he is right well that

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and the cheating it's a you know all the constituent parts that voted for Trump

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get to say that they were the ones right gave him the election course which is

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kind of part of the mythology that keeps people on board because it's like well

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we were the ones who made this happen right it's sort of the loss sunk cost

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kind of fallacy like we we did all this we can't give up now right so there's

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that then after he makes that argument he said he explains why Trump is good

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and he says something that like it knocked me out of my chair okay but Mike

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down for this alright just make sure you catch this okay the church doesn't

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understand what's happening and yet we were the decisive factor that got Donald

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Trump in Donald Trump has been the greatest gift we have had in terms of a

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resistance against the the devil and a promoter of a world order of stability

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and economic prosperity oh wait wait hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on

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excuse me sir hey buddy we have a couple questions for you would you say that

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this new world this world order is new oh you would say it's a B is it the old

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world order that controls the earth are you trying to take us back to the dark

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are you trying to set up a new world order what do you want the dark Pope or

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the good Pope what do you want what do we what are we doing what are we doing

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here for somebody who's existing in this space I cannot believe he would like

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choose Rick Trump is really great because he's establishing a world order

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of prosperity yep yep he's doing it don't do that oh man that's what you

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would be fine that's what you've been yelling about George HW Bush about for

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30 years but he's those words you dicks fucking dick they're cheaters it's

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unfair yeah it's so unfair yeah yeah it is oh man

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wall now Lance well now well not hey now well wall now an all-star so have you

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ever been to wall drug yeah there we go so in this next clip Lance discusses a

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sort of Freudian slip that Trump had that I find disturbing but he he thinks

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Jim Baker and Laurie Baker think it's hilarious and so every piece like a

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businessman remember what time he had like a Freudian slip he said I want to

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make my company great again I don't think he knows what he said he met my

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country but here but he's treated like a CEO getting the business sorted out so

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you know it's not funny because CEOs own companies CEOs are in like it's a it

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should the mentality should be very different so the Freudian slip of this

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is my company yeah I think it's even fucked up to look at running the country

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like a business oh it's insane that that on its own is something that is

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unhealthy unproductive to public works ridiculous and exploitative yes

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absolutely then my company yeah holy shit here's the here's the worst part he

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understands what Freudian slip means right it he said he said Freudian slip

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he didn't say slip of the tongue right slip of the tongue would be fine oh he's

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just used to saying my company instead he said Freudian slip which means that

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he believes Trump literally meant to say or thinks that he's running his company

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right and he meant to say country so he's all on board with Trump running it

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like it's his company yep what a fucking monster I guess that means we could be

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fired well I in a very literal sense yes boss yeah so earlier in the episode I

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said that and I have been saying and I will continue to say that Lance Lance is

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making the argument that Trump is a gift from God he is divine intervention and I

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haven't really earned that yet so we will in this next clip we've had a

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Christian culture that has been prophesying and and seeking God for

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revival I've been in this ministry for 40 years well it's been the intercessors

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that have kicked in in the last years how many of you have been feeling a

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burden of prayer and there's been like a prayer but fasting the intercessors

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kicked in a divine intervention the form of a wrecking ball that would be Donald

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Trump for the sake of God's people so get that get that catchphrase in there

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right right right came in like a wrecking ball etc uh-huh so it's a divine

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intervention church right so you know that's one catchphrase but what now in

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this next clip they're gonna start trying to sell his products and we find

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out another catchphrase that we've definitely heard Alex uses a lot that

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this do you see now no it's not that one see how that works see how that works

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so Lance is claiming to have come up with this one as well and then this

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really becomes your prophetic intercessory prayer guide because I

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tried listed the 11 predictions regarding Trump just before he was

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elected regarding who he would be what he would do right on down to bring about

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the a couple naming the fact that the media would enter a period called Trump

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derangement I was the one who really oh boy so he coined Trump derangement

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syndrome which is something that Alex and Paul Joseph Watson scream about all

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the time it's a hot fire all over the the right-wing media you know it's crazy

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what I was the one who actually invented lock her up and I'm really regret that

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I really that was your bumper sticker yeah yeah yeah shit but it was just for

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Roseanne like it was a bummer fair enough so this this is one of the many

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connections we have with Alex throughout this guy's belief you know you have

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Trump is divinely inspired Alex believes that right he says that right Trump

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derangement syndrome what else we got cool with Dinesh D'Souza get her done

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uh-huh yeah so we're gonna see more of that but before we get to that he's got

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to sell so in that clip he was selling the prayer guide that he said he's got

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right that's part of the package there's a bundle man prayer guide 90 minute

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lecture on DVD gold coin now we're gonna learn a little bit more about this gold

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coin oh boy and it starts bad it starts it gets better from there nope okay I

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didn't say that it starts bad this coin now 24 karat gold-plated yes is after

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the Sanhedrin sent me a silver coin I said I know the president he wants gold

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so I went and we put the 24 karat gold plates so that the silver so that we

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have the Trump Cyrus image and Isaiah 45 in the back the reason I wanted to do

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this is because I was saying we have to have a point of contact we would have

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prayer calls which we're going to do again with 50,000 people yes and and

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what we need is a point of contact to be praying that the Spirit of God will

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continue to put Donald Trump in a position where the wrecking ball is

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going to expose the infrastructure of the institutions that are corrupted and

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compromised he's gonna hit them as he's been doing and that every weapon formed

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against him will boomerang back and expose the enemy so there's a couple

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things that are real fucked up there I mean the idea that he had like a silver

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coin he's like now Trump wants gold yeah that's not so cool with that and Jim

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Baker is laughing about that story yeah which is which like I think I I just

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feel like there's a vanity to that there's something that is pretty which

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Jesus was super super cool with Jesus loved vanity well I remember there was

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that story of in the Bible is just gonna be two one-to-one yes late the time when

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Bartholomew came and brought him a silver coin he slapped it out of his

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hand right I get gold that was a really interesting story man I wanted I want to

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know because here's Jim Baker's laugh right there is such a fuck you yeah even

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too like that's a fuck you to his audience that's a fuck you to the people

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who believe in him that might as well be him like spitting in their face and

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going you'll still love me you idiot yeah you dumb fucks I'm telling you that

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God brought about this president who demands gold yeah in the line with the

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teachings of Christ it's insane amazing that he can do that so brazenly yeah

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it's really it like a testament to how like once you get people on board with

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X framework you can make that framework you can mold it however you want yeah

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like as long as you get people on board ostensibly for these like a Christian

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principle you can go against that whenever you want yep it's not people

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are not going to hold your feet to the fire it is astonishing it is absolutely

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astonishing how they how they have twisted that and then it's the same

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thing with Alex Jones and all that shit like the bombastic dumbass nature of it

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attracts such a huge audience and I don't understand why well that's it's

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there's another similarity to there with the like in the past he got everyone on

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board with his anti-tyranny anti New World Order I can specifically anti

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right Rex 84 FEMA camp the posse comitatus stuff and then as you go

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along you could change anything you want hmm because what's behind it isn't what

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is in front right like what you're presenting isn't what you're actually

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operating on Jim Baker wants your goddamn money and that's it yeah and

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that he found that religion is a really good way to get people's money he's not

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alone and now Trump is working real well for him in terms of the grift yeah that

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he's on so if something about Trump directly contradicts something about

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religion you're just gonna you're gonna be able to yeah yeah God it because

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he's God's messenger you don't have to worry about what God ever said look the

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Bible yes is 100% true and we should but Trump is a new dude no big deal and then

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at the same token you have Alex who like what what he was about wasn't anti

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tyranny or anything like that it was white identity that was behind

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everything that he packaged it in such a way yeah as to be very attractive and

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anti tyranny anti New World Order and then as you know someone comes around

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yeah it's amazing yep it's and he even pulls the Sanhedrin into it and it's

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like it's like a joke but God he's every single one of the people in that

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audience is getting peed on right now they're every single one of them for

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what it's worth they all look like retirees yeah they're all pretty old

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yeah like when he asked if anybody's fasting it was just like slow I feel bad

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I don't make fun of the elderly but like the audience was it made me feel even

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more sad yeah anyway yeah he's tricking old people too if you want to know why

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you shouldn't listen to this guy this Lance you just listen to him I don't see

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why it's pretty obvious but you know he this is a point that I don't think I've

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made clearly enough this is a religious show this is a Jim Baker's evangelical

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hour I thought it was an info bucket Marshall I mean it is behind the scenes

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yeah but it's you know it's supposed to be a show about Christianity right

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religiously focused program and all of this has been mainly politics yeah I

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haven't I haven't heard them quote scripture or even like hey well there is

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a scripture on the back of a coin okay well the never magic coin connect with

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other people praying at the same time as you that's just enough Jesus for me Dan

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fair enough so when when Lance Wallnau comes in here and he's talking all this

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shit about politics it's important to also take other context clues from

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things he's saying to see if you should listen to him and this one strikes me as

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like oh okay I'm not gonna listen to you anymore

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till Donald Trump came around I really didn't have a civics lesson in my head I

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didn't know the difference between the DOJ the FBI the CIA I knew they were all

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part of government stuff I've got an education since he's been in office

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yeah we goes for the first time I'm looking at media media you know I watch

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Christian television they've got secular then I'm realizing every inch of ground

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that we haven't occupied is being occupied and weaponized to destroy us so

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what he's saying is that I didn't know anything about civics until Trump came

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in and then all of this propaganda that is so anti deep state type stuff came

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around and I learned so much yeah you didn't learn shit yeah I would strongly

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argue that you still do not know anything about the DOJ the FBI the CIA

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and any number of other things do you know what's at play here it's the the

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exact consequence of Trump being elected as played out by conservative right-wing

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media yeah they are so only effective as antagonists they are only effective in

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terms of attacking and being under threat right so as long as there's a

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Democrat in office or there is the presumption of Democratic control of

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Congress or the presidency then they can attack and they can make all the money

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they want right as soon as Congress and the presidency is in the hands of the

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Republicans they cannot function anymore and therefore have to create an entirely

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new bigger bad guy right it's the exact same problem that heroes had after

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season one like you got Siler and he's like completely overpowered what are you

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gonna do you got to create some sort of other gigantic bad guy that mysteriously

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has been there all along yeah just didn't know about yep it's complete

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bullshit this is the strategy that the right-wing media needs to use and this

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is what Lance Wallnau has learned right now I have a second layer to this what

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makes this bullshit like he is one of the board members of the Oak Institute I

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do not believe that before Trump got in he didn't have any understanding of some

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kind of civics don't even worry about it it's about planting trees he's trying to

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pretend that he hasn't been involved in like this agitating Islamophobic anti

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lgbtq world previously to Donald Trump he oh yeah this is this is what he's

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about it's just presenting it this way probably because he knows a lot of other

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people didn't know shit about civics before and he's validating that in them

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yeah I do think this is a manipulative strategy see I'm just like you idiots

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out there I didn't know what the DOJ was at worst it's a manipulative strategy at

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best it's evidence you shouldn't listen to him because he's just been suckling

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off the teat of right-wing propaganda and pretending that's learning yeah so

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it's one of the two either way get the fuck out yeah you suck absolutely yeah

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so in this next clip we get a little bit of an indication of a similarity with

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Alex but just basically repeating one of Alex's big narratives on the Jim Baker

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show we are we are literally one market adjustment without Trump in office of a

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collapse of our entire economic system so we had a financial crisis wasn't in

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there protecting us everything would fall apart the globalists so but he's

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not calling them globalists or anything man yeah boy I really really really want

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to know what Bible he's like one market adjustment is what you're talking about

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in what you're quote unquote calling a church yeah it's pretty great unreal

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yeah unreal what and and the Lord sayeth unto thee you better protect your 401k

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and make sure that you start contributing at the at an early age that

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way the compound interest will make sure that you get what the fuck are you guys

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doing yeah it's it's pretty strange it's almost like you know if Jesus were

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around he would flip over Jim Baker's desk God if Jesus were around these

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dudes would be smitten these dudes be slighted smited smoke smoke is it smoke

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I think it is so in this we you know obviously this there's apocalyptic

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feelings on the rise of course even though they're winning or whatever yes

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but the the Antichrist is coming and also that means that there's got to be a

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false prophet sure right I mean they work together who's that hand well it

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turns out Lance has done some thinking about it and it seems like well I'll let

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him explain okay it may not be a person okay I did one broadcast where I said we

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know that the Antichrist spirit is in the earth and we could see that yes he

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is but the Antichrist has to work with the false prophet I no longer think the

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false prophet is originating as a person heading up a religion I think the false

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prophets already there I think the false prophet is a world ruler just like if

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you see perversion it's a world ruler it's the same spirit in Thailand and

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Bangkok and the sex slave industry as it is a world ruler what's the spirit

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called the false prophet and it's operating through false media right now

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Wow now the false prophet is in the media preparing the way for the

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Antichrist spirit which is a secular counterfeit angel of light that's going

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to deliver you it sounds a lot like Alex Wow the media is the false prophet that

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is bananas yeah the media is the false prophet that will bring about the

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Antichrist and herald the coming of the Antichrist so don't listen to the media

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they're just gonna feed you to the Antichrist that's don't listen to

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anything that's critical of us or our worldview or ever into you that we are

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fucking scamming you and misrepresenting everything unreal don't do that don't

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listen to them they're fucking trying to bring about the end of the world and the

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destruction of the church I love that he's living that they always live in

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like a Harry Potter like everything is interpreted and it turns out to be like

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oh what we missed was when they said false prophet we thought he met one

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person but it actually is all the media it's a spirit that in fact the media

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like what the fuck are you talking about out of here also this fucking

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what warmed up protocols of the elders of Zion bullshit it logically it follows

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that if careful God is like there's coming to be a false prophet right and

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he's gonna convince like everybody mm-hmm right that if you're like

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everybody wouldn't the guy you think is not the false prophet be the false

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prophet hmm so it I don't I don't I don't know if I understand exactly what

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you're saying I mean it makes more sense for Trump to be the false prophet in

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their worldview because no no the one that they think isn't no no no cuz

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they're the cool smart people who don't get fooled by the false prophet yeah but

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see they aren't well and they there are not like there's a ton of the Bible

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either well in the Bible there's like two dudes well those two dudes dude if

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the if the fucking false prophet can be all the media those two dudes can be

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everybody holy shit that is a really good rebuttal right I will give that one

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to you all you have to do is come up with the worst rebuttal possible it's

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like yeah that makes makes more sense than anything else that's how you get

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out of this box yep so we've got Lance Wall now being overtly

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political though he knows nothing about civics right Sanhedrin and gold coins he

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says that we got this world order that Trump is forming love it and that should

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lead you to get the sense that maybe some geopolitics is gonna come up right

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and in this next clip we hear a couple of people that this this wall now is

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into you know we just met with the president of El Salvador and he's a

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Christian he's he's actually wanting the grace and strength of God to come in his

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life what's really funny here is they flash up the picture of the former

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president of El Salvador yeah yeah real crack steam at team over there

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excellent the president of Brazil is a Christian yeah who wants the strength

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and grace of God inside God is raising up Cyrus rulers for nations that are

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going to have unprecedented harvest and blessing coming to them we have one in

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office right now so he's like he likes Bolsonaro cool man these guys they love

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fucking and say they love authoritarian yeah yeah yeah I'm surprised they didn't

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bring out do tear it as well in this one I think the block is too hot on do tear

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it oh yeah I think oh I'm sorry they might this was before Bolsonaro came out

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and was like we should kill criminals in the streets I don't think that would

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affect I don't think so much I yeah it's it's insane to me this this consistency

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with which you see these right-wing weirdo figures who are super cool with

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Bolsonaro love authoritarians insane but also like at the end there he's talking

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about Cyrus presidents yes Cyrus leaders that's his big thing with Trump this

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coin his gold coin has a picture of King Cyrus and also Trump right and his whole

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if I had to describe it so in this booklet of his he argues that 70 years

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before Cyrus did what he did there was a prophecy that was gay I think Daniel

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gave a prophecy then Cyrus came along and fulfilled that prophecy sure Trump

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was elected 70 years after Israel was created and so therefore bada-bing bada-

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boom Trump is Cyrus that does it that does it for me oh that does it for me

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you got me on that one I wish I could explain it better but as I was listening

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to him I couldn't care honestly that makes as much sense as anything else

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yeah 70 years 70 years whatever so Bolsonaro and the current president of

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El Salvador are also Cyrus presidents and here's the thing that you need to

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understand there are sheep nations and goat nations right ooh I remember this

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one this isn't good no this is this is pretty bad what what what Lance is about

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to lay out for us how's he gonna pervert this little Bible hiccup well see here's

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what you have to do is you have to find a way to not care about most of the

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world yes if you're going to support these sorts of authoritarian rulers you

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have to you have to brush off a lot of the world right most especially the meek

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here at the earth though you better watch out they're gonna die they're on

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if Trump and Bolsonaro have anything to say about yeah so here is Lance laying

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out his philosophy about sheep and goat nations and who matters and who doesn't

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and it ultimately comes down to sheep and goat nations are being formed and

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Donald Trump is heading a very powerful new Renaissance of nation-states that

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are becoming sheep nations while where is that the is that the world order yeah

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a new Renaissance of nation-states yeah they're all okay yep careful yep a

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global he's in office the system is stable and these nations are starting to

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rise what's a sheep nation what's the difference sheep nation is a nation that

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as much as you've done to the least of these my brethren that's the key most

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people think my brother is the key word you've done unto me as much as you've

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done at least of these you've done it to me my brethren refers to the Jews who

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are his who are his his blood inheritance as the Messiah and his

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disciples when they knocked on the door when Jesus was teaching they said master

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your your mother and your brothers are outside they want to talk to you he said

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wait a second who's my mother who's my brother stretching forth his hand to his

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disciples he says behold my mother and my brethren those who hear the word of

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God and keep it yes sheep nations will not molest or persecute the right of

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Israel and Christians to exist goat nations will shut you down lock you up

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and steal your property so that's the distinction Wow mm-hmm Wow I agree that

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like states that you know suppress people's right to exercise their

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religion is that's not good they shouldn't do that right I think that's

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you know an infringement on their human rights that doesn't like the United

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States that doesn't mean that their their country doesn't matter no it means

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that you can kill them with no consequences whatsoever right and Jesus

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is totally cool with that that's what Jesus was all about what you do to the

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least of these that doesn't apply that have restrictive religious rights Jesus

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was all about making sure people knew you know who could be killed whenever

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they wanted to yeah absolutely Jesus was like hey you guys are cool and then

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let's kill all those guys I remember in the book of Bartholomew they I love that

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book by the way in 2000 I'm just learning so much about it in 2000 years

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some real fucked up dudes are gonna need excuses for an abusive foreign policy

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and so I'm writing this book in order to explain all of the myriad ways in which

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you can and justify your actions that is it is really amazing that you can turn

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what you do to the least of these you do unto me into a verse that's like and

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what he means by that is you can bomb Iran duh Iran is less than the least of

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these fuck off Wow dude yeah that's amazing so now we jump back into another

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sales pitch for this year gold gold coin and the bundle and then we find that

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again there's a very strong feeling that this is a world order it's nuts to me

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it's so overt like I don't care like if you were to use this language in some

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some context I don't really give a shit if it weren't for it being the central

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argument of anti-communist New World Order conspiracy theorists which this is

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an extension of yep we're all about like hey hey it's a big new Brzezinski said

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New World Order hey George HW Bush said New World Order we're gonna make a

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career off it Trump said New World Order I'm a globalist yeah put the hand on the

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globe he was just doing it to trick the goat nations right so here we go in into

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this this clip where we get some salesmanship and some stupidity well

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what we need to do is order this bundle right now I'm just telling you everyone

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needs this bundle what we call the Cyrus Trump bundle DVD 24 karat gold-plated

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Trump coin and the booklet for just a gift of $45 I love that because incredible

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value just discover the prophetic patterns in this in this lesson so that

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the hidden truth in the Bible that it explains the rise of Donald Trump he

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brings it all out and the Cyrus and then what next what's coming next that's

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what's so powerful and that's what you're saying telling you man there's a

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God has a plan there is a global revival but it's not separated from nations

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right we want revival without nations the devil's playing for nations yeah

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Jesus was promised nations for his inheritance okay is this no borders kind

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of thing I can't handle this that's right now we also have other bundles

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three four one hundred dollars well three of the Cyrus Trump bundle that

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you do get a beer karat gold-plated Trump coins and the booklet for just a

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gift of $100 that's an amazing value now that I mean it's kind of seeking in to

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me right now that is incredible and we also have the Baker's dozen 13 for a

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gift of just four hundred and fifty dollars to the ministry which are the

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same thing you'll eat you get the gold-plated coin I love this coin so

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much as a DVD and the booklet you'll love it love it love it and I suggest

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you get the Baker's dozen simply because you're going to want to share this with

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so many people totally and I if you don't talk with my pastor whether he

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just maybe I think I think the pastors would like it I think so too and I think

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like to study open their eyes to really and give them clarity like Lance Lance

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has really brought clarity even to Jim and myself but what's not good that is

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that is so insidious and they know exactly what we can get the pastors we

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get their congregation well I don't think they'll have much luck with a lot

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of pastors no I think most I actually disagree with you 100% I don't think

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that's fair I think there are a lot of congregations that where they're keenly

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aware of who Jim Baker is I agree with you there because this is not like Jim

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Baker is not indicative of like I would say a majority of Christianity no I

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think that's an unfair and I don't think you were saying that I just want to be

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overt with that lest somebody think that we're trying to paint Christianity as a

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whole like this right it's not I but I do I do agree with you that that is part

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of a strategy that they're they're angling for yeah that's an MLM basically

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that's what they're going for yeah yeah yeah that's fair or let's say I don't

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know maybe you have a grandchild that you're alienated from and you don't talk

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to all that often but you want to evangelize to passive-aggressively yeah

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get the Baker's dozen you could send them this gold coin and booklet I gave

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them a gift of 450 dollars to give you a gift of this bullshit it reminds me of a

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lot of the gifts my Mennonite grandparents would send me yeah when I

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was two years two years is still fresh not that not back-to-back years yeah for

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Grover Cleveland's two non consecutive gifts I can't remember if it was

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Christmas or my birthday but the gift that I got from them was a book that was

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a tour guide of heaven it legitimately was like I was scrolling through the

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room where you get to say the n-word right I was flipping through the pages

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that one of them was like people often ask are there actually going to be gold

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streets in heaven absolutely they gave me that book twice this grift is the

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tale as old as time yet are there of course there are child they're just as

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deep as you want them to be and there are diving boards unless you're afraid

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of diving boards in which case there won't be but nobody can fuck I can't I

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was shocked when I got that once and then when I got it a second time I was

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like they're not even trying nope they might have bought a baker's dozen it

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took me a long time to realize that like it's possible they got these from their

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church or local Christian bookstore but it's just as likely that they got it

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from something like this absolutely not Jim Baker himself but some similar fraud

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or con well the when we're talking about like the majority of Christianity to me

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what that's always meant is a church in a town with anywhere from like you know

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thirty to a hundred people that's always been what I've thought of as a church

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probably because of my experience it that the thirty to a hundred is in the

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church not the town right right okay right absolutely making sure of course

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but the reason that it's hard to get that image or maintain that image now is

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because the largest churches are like Jim Baker the churches yeah or like the

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Copeland yeah one's almost franchise yeah yeah yeah the seed faith guys

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there's so many people in those and they're so big and they're and they're

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very public like I see them a lot as opposed to like you don't see the good

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churches because often they're not getting mixed up in stuff that the media

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needs to cover right they're not doing fucked up things yeah they're just like

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hey we're trying to be a good group of people there definitely is like you

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could I mean the statistics bear out that there's way more than you would

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expect support among the evangelical Christians of Trump oh it's like 89%

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it's insane but that is even like who's calling themselves evangelical and what

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is that sure that factor is in there yeah I just think like in my life I've

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had a lot of negative experiences with church but I've also had positive ones

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so like it's not it would be I don't know I'm not I'm not trying to defend

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Christianity or anything other than to say like I think there's a lot of great

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Christianity that gets a bad name because a lot of this shit I will never

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ever defend Christianity or appreciate it I will always defend churches though

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to me the church you know you can pick a religion whatever toss it in there but

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the church is what is a whole different story sure the community yeah that is

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there is each unique mm-hmm whatever yeah so in this in this next clip oh god

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I love this clip this clip is so dumb so you know how Paul Joseph Watson like

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says embarrassing things all the time like he says you know the right wing is

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getting more good better at comedy it makes people nervous yes as earlier in

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this show we've seen that this guy is killing it with Jim Baker oh that

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audience killing it murdering loving it that that's one of the more embarrassing

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things Paul Joseph Watson has said that everyone's just dunked on him for yeah

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one of the other things is a conservatism is the new counterculture

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yeah yeah yeah so Lance in this next clip takes that ball and he runs down

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court with it tries to dunk uh-huh hits the rim okay just falls let's see how it

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goes breaks his neck when he falls down okay the ground opens up and he

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swallowed it as well gotcha but what's good about this is the fact that young

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people like to be counter culture yes and so now that the culture has gone

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the way us yeah it's our turn to enjoy being radicals so up until now we've

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been the polite people that's right now we have a whole new chapter where we get

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to be the free radical and and college campuses are a perfect incendiary

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environment for a couple of bold young Christians to start gathering together

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that's it and we're doing that now we're mobilizing youth on campuses and they

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like to be the radicals so it's actually a good sign right now that is order now

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though before their time we're totally out of time almost so so I love how the

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co-host was trying to get a question in there and Jim steamrolls where we're out

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of time we're out of time we can't be doing this shit your dumbass question

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this is quite reminiscent of like George Lincoln Rockwell's strategy of

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antagonizing on campuses yeah also this is what I really really need to say in

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the entire time that I have been aware of Christianity which is to say my whole

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life and I was involved in an evangelical church when I was younger

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there is nothing that was a bigger part of the like keeping kids involved than

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to argue that they were the radical oh yeah absolutely like DC talk had that

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big song Jesus freak uh-huh I'm out here I'm rebellious yeah yeah yeah I do not

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think okay also also every single time there's been a counterculture there has

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also been like there is never like a version of it that's going to be like

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you know what we should be way more conservative the counterculture is

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always going the other direction yeah because this like even if the culture at

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large even if we're to accept the premise that the culture at large is

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degenerate but somehow you know it's all full of sin yeah sure the

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counterculture to that will not be straight laced Christianity right it

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will instead be way more of that shit or a refinement yeah absolutely there will

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be some sort of like yeah I guess you could argue in some ways like ethical

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non-monogamy is kind of a counterculture to promiscuity yeah like there are

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there's there's a way there's a refinement that goes on that is in

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opposition to whatever the prevailing cultural tide was right that is like

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what the idea that anybody in their youth well not anybody but large groups

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of people in their youth are going to be like you know what you know I'm gonna be

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anti conformity I'm gonna appeal to a ridiculously conformist worldview yeah

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that's not how that works it is it is the conundrum of the youth pastor the

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youth pastor who is 30 years old and he's hanging out with a bunch of

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teenagers and he's got the guitar yeah he's doing the whole thing he's like

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look I know you go to that regular church and that old guy is up there

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reading those Bible verses or whatever but what if we just sang some hip new

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tunes by the Beach Boys let's get into it that's why my youth pastor insisted

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on singing meet Virginia oh yeah exactly I still don't understand exactly why

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that was played in church the the crazier ones now are bananas to me

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because it's now it's the it's the next step of that so it's the youth pastor

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who's 30 years old and he's got he's tatted up beyond all recognition and

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he's like man I used to do some weird shit when I was younger but then I found

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God and I don't need and then all the tattoos are suspiciously like biblical

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reference yeah yeah wait are you making up that heroin pass since you were nine

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you've been getting tattoos with Isaiah 14 10 on it you got a Trump Cyrus

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tattoo yeah all he has to do is press it and then he can talk to God and

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everybody who has the coin also the other thing too is that like this idea

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of like these Christian youth is going around on campuses and being like

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incendiary that's not new no like I wasn't sure in school in college in like

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early 2000s and one of the hallmarks of my goddamn college experience because

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you couldn't get away from it was brother Jed the evangelist who would sit

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and yell at people on campus all the time yeah he would make the rounds to

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tons of colleges around the Midwest and he wasn't the only one there were a

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bunch of these pastors I've heard from I talked about this on the show one time I

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got a bunch of emails from people who were either also new brother Jed and

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didn't go to Mizzou or their their campus had their own version of yeah

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it's very consistent yep it's a strategy that's been employed for a long time

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this isn't anything new oh yeah maybe you're trying to trick kids into doing

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it instead of an old angry man yeah but it's not new oh yeah there was a there

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was a dude who was I remember in my freshman year of college who would just

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come around and he would just grab people who he he thought had drifted

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from the faith or whatever and he'd be like let's go have a cup of coffee

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sometime yeah let's just go get a cup of coffee sometime that whole thing over

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and over and over brother Jed would invite people to his house for a dinner

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yes he no no no I at least my guy wasn't that creepy he knew we need to go to a

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neutral space a buddy of mine was almost like he's like yeah I think I might go

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over just see what's uh see what's up I'm like don't do that I don't think he

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did I think I talked him out of it if I recall grabbing his arms and tying them

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and holding him down resist the sirens yeah so we have one last clip here and

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it's we're getting back to the sheep and goat nation idea and earlier I said you

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know he's talking a lot like Alex but you know he's not saying globalists oh

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those sheep nations that are rising up their leaders are less about party and

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they're more about the people and bringing in the prosperity and the

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principles that will make a nation great this is a populist movement the enemy

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hates that the globalists versus the populace is what you're starting to see

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now globalists want to control by the way so if socialism happens it doesn't

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necessarily go bad for those people that are the elites because at the end of the

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day the government will tell you what you do and what you don't do and these

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these elites already have influence over the government the global are you

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fucking with me god damn it man that might as well have been a guest on

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Alex's show yeah yeah especially because he's literally describing why he's fine

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with supporting Trump is he's like because yeah he's gonna create this

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nationalist hellscape dystopia but I'm gonna be fine cuz I already have

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influence over him yeah all they really want like all these people really want

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is to continue their grift and people having more let's say left-leaning

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policies and regulations coming into favor jeopardizes some of their grifts

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hmm I would assume that they are very aware of that and they want to keep away

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from any possibility of that ever coming to pass oh yeah secondarily especially

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on this show they want a theocracy they want laws in place that you could

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discriminate against people yep based on them being different in a way that

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they're against yep they want that they want to be able to just I mean if I want

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to if I want to do politics from the pulpit I'm gonna fucking do it yeah if I

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want to try and create a political machine in a small town based around my

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church I still want to have a tax-exempt status absolutely I gotta have

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tax-exempt status cuz I'm running running on these margins yeah they want

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to protect the business the scam and they want to move things closer to an

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authoritarian in line with God yeah and that's why they that's what the

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populace not God in line with them and they're what they think God yeah yeah

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well it's not even that it's using God as a yeah as a because it's the same

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thing as the populist trick that we're doing is they they're in line with the

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people they're not in a party all that that that window dressing that facade

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that they're putting up is the same thing that they're doing with religion

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yep to protect their scam they hide it with religion and they're very

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successful in doing that to hide their authoritarianism and fascism they hide

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behind the populism yeah we're against globalists socialism will wreck

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everything we're against globalist even though we are gonna bring out a new

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global world or world order we're not globalist we're nationalists

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functioning within a global world order now we're not gonna be involved in

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borders no no no borders we don't need borders in the global world order that

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we've built so that's a little different than Alex but the rest of it is very in

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line and it is worth noting every now and again I believe that like a lot of

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this is all cribbing from the same notes it's all there's so many parallels yeah

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what you hear here is a guy who if you believe his telling of it had no idea

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about any civics before Trump got elected then took a steady diet of

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religious and right-wing media and has come to this conclusion that he's come

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to and he's just regurgitating the exact same things as Alex but giving them a

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religious like presentation yeah and Alex does too so I guess they're not

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really that different at all but what they're doing slightly different but

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they're targeting different audience yes no that's and that's the thing that I

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am like that's the thing about the right-wing media that's so brilliant

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that I think they stumbled onto probably by accident yeah is they have the best

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SEO because they all agree with each other yeah yeah that's why would you go

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with a message exactly like this is for retirees right Alex is trying to get

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like well I mean not anymore necessarily but there was a his original use in the

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market was trying to co-opt some left-wing people yeah and and

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libertarians it's all it's all focused on whatever corner of the market you can

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do to penetrate it with this exact same worldview and that's why the YouTube

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algorithm has killed us all because you watch one of these videos from Jim Baker

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and you're like haha that's stupid I'm not a religious wacko but YouTube is

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like well you watched this dumb religious wacko let's see what you were

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into Alex Jones and then now you're like well this is what I'm into and I'm the

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same shit I'm still getting recommendations for David J Smith

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service so good luck I did that to me you're gonna be a believer here soon

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speaking of good luck good luck on your vacation thank you very much Dan have a

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have a great time over there and damn it I can't think the kangaroos over there

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no kangaroos are in Australia that's right yeah I can't think of animal

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that's that's over there the big one that we're going to is literally a

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giraffe give me one of them I will get you a baby giraffe I'll get you a baby

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giraffe a baby giraffe I already promised to kick a baby giraffe in the

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knee or just bring me back some candy I was going to do that okay good yeah

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we'll be back we will I mean there will be some episodes with us over the

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vacation and I'll be I'll be back with some other fun but until then Jordan we

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got a website we do it's knowledge fight calm correct you could also find us on

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Twitter you bet you can it's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to

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bed Jordan yes and we are on Facebook yes indeed we are also on the iTunes you

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could download you could leave a review you could I well you could buy a 24

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karat gold-plated coin right with Dan's face it was gonna be silver but I said

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go Dan is only about the gold and put it between your two fingers and you'll be

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able to listen to every one of our episodes absolutely yep so we will see

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you next time but until then I have been the Jesus lizard Andy in Kansas you're

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on the air thanks for holding well Alex I'm a person color I'm a huge fan I love

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your work I love you