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Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a person color I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight

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I'm damn sure couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Joe indeed

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We are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan

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House plant watch 2019 going that's a question you've asked before but I might as well fill

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Everybody wants the updates on your plant watch. Come on. That's why we have it

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It's a recurring segment on the show to me tomatoes middling

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Not dead, but also not thriving peas flowering. Yeah quite well beautiful

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Trinidad scorpions and chocolate boot love very hot peppers in the soil in the soil seeds are in soil

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We'll see if they germinate Serrano peppers Thai chilies coming along quite well. Oh, yeah, how would you know?

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Well because they're cut they're right there. Well, yeah, I don't know I get that along

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Well, I get that. I'm just saying do you have a point of comparison for whether or not they're doing well

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They're doing exactly how I would expect them to be doing at this point. They're green

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So they're alive for a

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Also a mysterious red flower that I planted is growing quite well not flowered yet

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But I'm excited to see if it comes about way. I do not understand what a mysterious red flower is

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I don't know the name of it and it looks really weird

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Okay, the seeds from a hardware store a ways down the road, and they just had taped over it mystery

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Mystery flower no with the person who was running it

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She was like I wanted to grow these but I don't have enough room in my windowsill

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So when you if you if you grow these take a picture and bring them in I want to see what they come in like

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I was like I'll tell you what I'll just bring you in one

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I'll bring you back one that was a witch if I ever saw what are you kidding me?

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You just got seeds from her random woman. No she worked at the hardware store

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That sells plant have you been back since maybe she's been maybe she disappeared no

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You got a magic flower, and I I cannot believe otherwise just wanted a picture of this flower to see how it came in

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I offered to bring her in one when they grew up of course. She's like it was as if I had said nothing I

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I thought I was making a very nice offer

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Was not interested

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Didn't think what I was doing was polite. I have no idea. It was very straight. That is that is a

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Boy, yeah, that's some witch action right there

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I don't know. I'm not gonna say this the pollen will definitely control your mind perhaps

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So that's where plants stand I have a green thumb, and I'm excited about it. I like it

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So this podcast Ryan learning more and more about what it means for a Serrano plant to be doing well

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And I know a lot about Alex Jones, and I don't know anything about either clearly yeah

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So Jordan today, we're going to be going over some present-day BS

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So the present-day stinks and there's you know there's ups and downs and a

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lot of

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God it just he's this show isn't good in the present-day. It's it's it's not good

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It's too inconsistent like there was the the last present-day episode. There was at least some stuff that I could be entertained by right

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Engaging with and learning about this isn't this is a no-man's land. What are we screaming about today?

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Well, we're going over May 17th through 20th

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On the show that is last Friday through Monday of this week

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Yeah, and I don't know I mean, I'll just tell you off the bat Saturday or a Sunday's show

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We're not even gonna touch cuz Owen Schroyer hosted, but he seemed depressed like he's yeah

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But he should be seemed low register not even there

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Just don't it didn't want to do it half like the first

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Segment of the show the first like six minutes or whatever uh-huh the GCN on Sundays

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also

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broadcasts

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Actual news so like how dare they well they have like a feed from a straight news station

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And they often have narratives that are kind of counter to infowars narrative well of course

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Because it's because they're reality kind of just reading of Associated Press stuff

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By professional news readers yes, yeah, and for the first segment of the show Owen Schroyer was talking over

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The news feed they had they're both feeds running simultaneously, and it was jarring as shit

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Okay, now that I would listen to that's great radio

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I wanted to try and get some clips of it

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But it was just like it was too jumbled to even really be worth yeah

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That's almost a Joe Frank sketch mm-hmm, and then when he finally took over for himself. It was just like

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There's no energy just you could feel a lack of desire to be there

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He just got the the figures on whether or not his contract is gonna be renewed and or if he's a temp not a good

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Sign yeah, I mean if you're if you're non Alex employees at infowars

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You've got to be thinking about like how do I brand for myself?

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How do I?

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Shield myself from whatever fallout is almost

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Certainly coming soon should I change my name should I?

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Yeah, exactly

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I'm never gonna get a job with a legitimate news source

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So where am I going next is maybe a feel segment with Laura Loomer might have been too real for a lot of them

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Yeah, I have who that's a good point

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They might have seen themselves a little bit in that like I've ruined my life like hey that can easily be me

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People start paying attention to me

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I did not consider that but yeah the people who are essentially like shittier versions of her must be

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Terrified especially someone like Owen who's like 25

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Himself yeah, these are people who have their lives ahead of them to like yeah, I don't I don't see them not

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You've seen that as a cautionary example

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Yeah, and then to have like guests come on Alex's show because there have been a couple

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Little videos of this that I've seen where guests come on and make fun of Laura. Yeah in her even on infowars

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They make fun of Alex interview with her on infowars

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That's hot that's adding insult to being a shitty person so the cruelty isn't just coming from the left or commentators

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It's coming from within the house cuz they cannibalize weakness of course. Absolutely. That's their whole job. Yeah, so I don't know

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I'm not gonna psychoanalyze Owen Troyer, but I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't some awareness setting in for him. It's like

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Shit, yeah, Laura Loomer

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Making that video was the conservative rights version of a Vietnamese monk lighting himself on fire like everybody goes

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Oh shit, we need we need to start a revolution or something. We got to get out of here

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Yeah, but speaking of people who are starting revolution. Hell, yeah

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Okay, well then it very well could be she wasn't the lunch lady, but she was the like crowd control person in the lunchroom

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Okay, okay. No nonsense, but also a pretty funny lady. She's great. Yeah

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Yeah, I enjoyed Cheryl. So maybe she's had the finger on the pulse of your career ever since I don't think this is her

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Infowar on you. Thank you so much. Liz. Thank you very much. Got some feedback on that drop and

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Everybody's missing daddy shark. Yep. There is a some shark

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rampateness in this

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And I don't know there have been a million petitions to have you

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Rewrite the eighth season of Game of Thrones and add daddy shark back into the drop. What if that was the end of Game of Thrones?

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Yara Greyjoy encounters a daddy shark trying to make it back to the Iron Islands

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shark rampant

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Rampant shark attacks lest we drift into spoilers

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and

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I'm not gonna give a spoiler about whether I'm not gonna edit the daddy shark in there. Who knows we will see possible, but

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Like I said, we're going over the 17th to the 20th

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But also the 19th doesn't matter because it's Owen Troyer who question it, but there's an interesting

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I don't know if I would call it a narrative arc, but there's something going on

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that you see I

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think it'll be interesting to

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Watch that play out and see if you have the same feelings that I do

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Okay, we're gonna start on the 17th and there's news going around that Trump is about to be real shitty at the border

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Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't understand how that's a news story. Well, cuz there's new wrinkles

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Yeah, it's just been an ongoing nightmare ever since he was I guess born it seems that way

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But Alex is covering his new moves that he's making now that we're in a national emergency and all

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Did he actually declare it yeah, it was a while back really yeah gotcha

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He's in violation of the emoluments clause sure. Anyways continue. So Trump's gonna make whatever moves he's gonna make and

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Alex's take on it is very strange because he seems to be disappointed that it's not crueler

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I've been encouraging Trump since last year declare a national emergency as

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Commander-in-chief and then he can direct the Defense Department money as he sees fit under that emergency

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Instead he declared a law enforcement emergency on funding to work with Congress. That's not a real national emergency

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Why the Eisenhower in the late 50s declared this emergency

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When millions were coming illegally and

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Deported them so he didn't do that in the late 50s those in 1954

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But it's you get the sense that he's like, yeah, you made a national emergency, but it's not a real one

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Yeah, because we're not seeing

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Abject cruelty. Oh, it's a law enforcement emergency. Whatever that means. Is that a different thing? I don't know

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I don't know. I don't know. It doesn't make any sense. So it's wild to hear Alex seem like he's disappointed about how he wishes

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Trump's national emergency was more overtly a power grab or a display of cruelty

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I mean, it's not it's wild in the sense that we live in the real world

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It's not wild to hear Alex say based on Alex, right?

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It's just hard to hear those sorts of things be expressed and it really goes to show how little his pretend principles ever really matter

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To him his fears of an overpowered executive or images of a police state were always just a means to an end for him

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He never really meant a word of it. You can just tell by the way he's flipped. So of course so a hundred percent

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Absolutely. However, what I find particularly upsetting about this clip is that Alex is evoking Eisenhower's deportations as if they were a good thing

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Alex is referring to what's known as operation wetback, which to put it simply was not a good thing. No everybody remembers that

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Positively, that's why we all use that that word all the time. I think Alex's associates may

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That's actually probably true took to quote an article in Slate quote operation

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Wetback was not simply the enforcement of immigration laws

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But a campaign of fear against immigrants its goal was to draw lines between who was and who was not American

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the program began in began in

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1954 which was just on the heels of the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act also known as the McCarran Walter Act

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In part named after senator Pat McCarran who wanted to protect our country from communism and quote Jewish interests

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Which ones?

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Not sure exactly

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Would you believe he didn't specify?

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Maybe he just didn't like the the the Jews. Maybe he didn't have too much interest in their interest vibe

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Little bit of anti-semitism, huh?

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Yeah

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The bill passed both houses of Congress but was echoed by then President Truman the veto is overturned by Congress and the bill was made law

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What the well the motivations of the bill were not good

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It did have the byproduct of abolishing the part of the 1790 Naturalization Act

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Which specified that only quote free white persons could become naturalized citizens thus opening the door to non-white immigrant citizens

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This created the need for a new way to exclude people and the way that happened was a new mentality that operations like the one in

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1954 reinforced namely that non-white immigrants were probably cheating and not here legally

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Isn't that ridiculous that the single moment there is a lack of exclusion?

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Everybody's like well, we got to find a new way to exclude people racism abhors the vacuum

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Instantly not even and it's not even like it's in advance before those laws go into effect

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They're already writing new shit to exclude people. Well, people are thinking about it for yeah

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Yeah

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the mentality that it was justified to assume Mexican immigrants were here illegally until proven otherwise became embedded in people's minds and

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And operation wetback went a long way towards solidifying that mentality and everybody loved it

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Which is why we use that word all the time. I believe it's the Washington again Alex and his associates

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The media covered the raids of farms and factories with breathless enthusiasm and support for INS agents and extolled their professionalism

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Meanwhile, the reality was quite different as many detainees were beaten had their heads shaved for identification purposes and in one instance code 88

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Detainees died of exposure in the 112 degree heat just past the California border

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Many detainees weren't given the opportunity to gather their belongings or even tell their families that they were being deported often without due process

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There was

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Yeah, it's a mess

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Yeah

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INS and their supporters justified their actions by appeals to needing to secure the southern border and by stoking fears of an invasion

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By Mexicans whether was the goal or not?

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The legacy of this operation is attaching the appearance of criminality to just being an immigrant from Latin America

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And that's the legacy that Alex is excited to see being reborn here. Not any imagined solution to his imagined immigration crisis

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So on some level it does make sense that he speaks of Eisenhower's actions positively

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This slate article was written in 2016

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but the day's sense have shown it to be pretty prescient quote if the mass deportations begin as Trump has promised the

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Citizenship of Latinos will always be questioned

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Latinos along with people who look Latino to law enforcement will be forced to produce their citizenship documents on a regular basis to avoid detention

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or deportation

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They'll live in a poisonous atmosphere of constant suspicion and immigration and customs enforcement and other law enforcement will inevitably make tragic mistakes

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Children will not be exempt on Monday a child died while being held in custody by immigration authorities

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He was the fifth child to die in such circumstances since December

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So I think the predictions made in that slate article were accurate and Alex harkening to the legacy of

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Eisenhower to justify what he wants Trump to do is a really fucked up thing

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Yeah to to pretend that it's not somehow

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A horrific act of violence against an entire people well then over and a racial cruelty. Yeah is absurd

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well, the good news is is that when we

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Inevitably go to let's say war with Iran or Venezuela will

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Absolutely have learned our lesson from World War two and we definitely won't keep Venezuelans or Iranians and in fucking camps. That would be crazy

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That would be ridiculous. We would never go back to that

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Dan, we'll see Dan. Tell me we would never go back to that. I don't know because

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It is next clip Alex talks about what Trump is going to do. Oh, no, and it's a bad sign. It's a it's it's

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It's a bad sign

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What an incredible time to be alive?

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This is being reported by very reputable

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publications like Daily Caller whoops

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That have reporters inside the White House

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and

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The president has floated the idea and it says he's getting ready to do it

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President Trump plans to invoke insurrection act so it's happening to remove illegal aliens secure the borders of the United States

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That sounds like some cute shit right there. It really does. It really does. He's about to invoke the insurrection act

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That's some cute shit right also kind of logical extension of his national emergency bullshit

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You know like the way he imagines the national emergency, right?

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of giving Trump this king-like power

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And the insurrection act is to put down rebellions. Sure. I don't like I don't like to hear this sort of thing

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I mean, I don't know if Trump is really thinking about using the insurrection act

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Of course, he is or isn't or somebody else's it doesn't matter. It's almost

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Useless to try and speculate about whether or not this is based on a real gossip piece from the kingdom could be

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Whatever the palace he's chaotic evil. Who knows? Yeah, but I don't like to hear Alex excited about it

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Cuz I don't like to hear anybody excited about it. No

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because in this conception then

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the immigrants and the refugees and the people who are helping them and support the

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Immigration are now seen as people who are in open rebellion against the country

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Yeah in Alex's conception of the insurrection act right and Trump will need to use this national emergency to literally

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Enact martial law to put down this rebellion. Uh-huh. That's what Alex is saying

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Wouldn't he be more on the side of the people in rebellion?

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You'd think doesn't that seem like his he's made multiple movies about martial law

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It sure seems like that's his jam right? It is his primary brand. Okay, mr

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Anti martial law. Yeah. Yeah

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So to hear him being like I fucking love that this executive is gonna use the insurrection act

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It acts martial law is fucking weird

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Yeah, it's not but it is I mean, it's not when you understand Alex more fully right but on paper

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It looks really fucked up. It's all just so he can get back on Facebook more or less

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But I think that Alex understands that it's fucked up. Yeah, and he knows that this is counter to

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Everything that he's warned people about for his entire career

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And so he tries to explain why this martial law isn't bad martial law

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And I think you can tell just from this clip that he can't reconcile what he's doing

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I'm an expert on martial law

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I made four films on martial law because Bill Clinton and others were planning martial law to take our guns

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Using people rioting nationwide as the pretext

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This is civil emergency martial law to counter the emergency

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That the globalists have already brought us into account on an emergency can counter that remember all the documents

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We got last year when Antifa is planning to trickle race war and martial law nationwide

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So he only has the fake Antifa Soros documents

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Yeah contracts in order to justify and reinforce this right? And yeah, it's exactly what you're saying

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And yeah, it's exactly what you're saying. It's like well, they've already done this revolution or whatever

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So we're doing a counter revolution. Counter coup, counter counter counter coup, etc. You forced my hand. Yeah. Yeah. There's some sort of like

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Attempt to paint whatever cruelty he's justifying as being like, you know, we don't want to do this

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Yeah, you don't want to do this, but it's the only thing we can do because you've made us

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You know, it's pathetic. It's pathetic is a way to not take ownership of what you want to do for sure

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You want to lock these people up these immigrants and refugees you want to send them back to their

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probable deaths you want to put them in camps or

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Bring them in as basically indentured servants right with no rights whatsoever in fear

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For their lives if they try and stand up for themselves for some sort of better working conditions

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That's what you want. That's the system that you wish to see in place. Don't hide behind some imagined

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Revolution that you're the counter revolution too. It's it's pathetic. It is I almost see this as like

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For 20 years or whatever

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He's been saying that the government is going to cause FEMA camps and all this stuff and the president is a tyrant and all

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Of that stuff and none of them have been and none of them did

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so

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He's supporting the guy who will do it in order to prove that he was right for 20 years man

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That's an interesting way to look at it

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Reckoning or trying to make the narrative right that you guys wouldn't do it

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So I'll do it myself my prophecies have gone unfulfilled and now I must make my prophecies come true

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My legacy will be shit. Yeah, that's an interesting way to look at it. I don't know if that

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Holds up. I don't think it holds up completely, but it's an interesting literary criticism

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I think it's more that I mean we've talked about it a hundred times. It's that like this the

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The the undercurrent has always been they're gonna do it to us, right? Yeah, the movies about martial law aren't about martial law

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They're about something being done to white people and now that he feels his team is safe

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Yeah, all bets are all bets are everything was conditional all along

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It's just very clear and you can see that here in this next clip

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I mean

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He's literally talking about martial law and he's talking about it in a way that like you go back and you watch his old

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Fucking movies about martial law and you imagine him saying something like this. Yeah, it's ludicrous

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He did the first emergency was just a congressional

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Oversight issue of funding and in Trump saying he can use some discretionary funds outside of Congress with law enforcement

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That's not a full emergency. And yes, it's a form of martial law

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It's a form of suspended. The laws are all violated. It's anarchy. Anarchy is the absence of law law the jungle

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So when you have an arc, then there's a lot laps you go and regular government can't function anymore

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Martial law is instituted martial meaning military

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Okay

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So I'm gonna explain it again

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Give a damn broke

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In a valley and it funded everything with 10 feet of water and killed half the town

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Your town's gonna be put under an emergency by the governor a form of martial law to stop looting for a week or two

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Point that order not I think we could probably looting is not the only reason but also I think we could probably come up with

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a hundred fucking examples of natural disasters where there have been

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Inklings of martial law and Alex's scream that it's the globalists trying to take over the country, right?

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So that doesn't help. Yeah, but those work a different kind of emergency and a different kind of martial law Dan

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Why aren't you following it's a kind of martial law of which there are apparently four, right?

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That's because of an emergency that wasn't man-made

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This is man-made and when Trump declares this which they're signaling he's about to do

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He's

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Gonna have the left claiming he's a dictator. No, you're the ones that broke the border

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So again, it's we're not I mean, it's all just you did this you made me do this

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It's a guy it's that the stereotypical you made me hit you. Yeah kind of oh for sure just

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It's gross. I'm doing this for your own good and sure against your will of course, but it's for your own good

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Yeah, I mean there's shade you are gonna die, but it's for everybody else is good. There's shades of that

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Well, a lot of them are gonna die. It's really more for my good, right and using he's using the view of the world that

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He's lied about and created with his rhetoric in order to justify the idea that it's anarchy and there's no laws

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Yeah, yeah, it's the law of the jungle that no laws that is believable if you believe him

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The rhetoric in the world that he's painted right on the canvas for his listeners, right?

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It's not real compared to the real world and what's been born out time and time again

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Is that people are helping each other not going crazy and burning everything down. That's what happens in a crisis

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Yes, so I have bad news. What's that in three days people will eat themselves in a crisis, right?

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That's not my bad news. Okay, that's Alex's bad. Okay, I got you. I think it's a week

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My bad news is Britain is in play

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In these episodes

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Well, no in Alex's show, okay

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Are we getting some solid milkshake canvassing?

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Milkshakes do come up once but I don't have a clip of it

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Okay, but Nigel Farage as we know is running the UK party. I'm sorry. He's out of the UK party

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He's at the brexit party now, which is currently being investigated for what is clearly illegal and corrupt behavior surprise

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I don't know enough about that to comment on it

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But I'm gonna take your word on it and assume it's not gonna come out great for him

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No, Nigel Farage is the worst. He's a piece of shit. He's not gonna be on this episode. Okay, however

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Thank you. There's another guy who's running for European Parliament and that is Tommy Sargon of God. No, Tommy Robinson. Tommy, right?

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Milkshake worse than Sargon. Yeah. Yeah. He's a piece of shit. He is a disaster. He is running for the Northwest

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England I believe seat in the European Parliament. Mm-hmm and

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He is on Alex's show to discuss his campaign

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and

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Man, it's just a trap. It's just a it's it's a PR trap

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Yeah, that's all this is but we're gonna talk more about it on the 20th when we're covering the 20th

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but here on the 17th

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He comes on as a guest and I think that if you listen to the way he describes his political campaign

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You kind of understand what he's doing now in this election

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What I've tried to do is I've gone into some of the wards here where 82% of people don't vote

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I've gone to the working class

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Council state of the Northwest and I'm trying to tell them 22 million people didn't vote in our last general election

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They don't fear us until we get up until we organize our communities and ourselves and the people from our backgrounds as a weapon

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Our background politics against them until we do that. They don't care. We've been betrayed every level

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You've all seen the betrayal of our country the betrayal of free speech

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The betrayal of our daughters in every town the city in the in this country

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When we know that Tommy Robinson's primary brand much like Alex's used to be anti-martial law. Yeah, Tommy's is anti-muslim agitation

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Yeah, those words take on a different meaning then I'm just trying to get people out to vote

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Yeah is a noble intention in terms of representative democracy and a republic you you do want higher

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Numbers of people going to the polls. So like hiding behind the pretense of all of these people don't vote

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I'm trying to galvanize people but as you use your loss four words our backgrounds. Mm-hmm our daughters

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Right. Those are the four you need to hear and then you know, oh you are a giant piece of shit racist

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Well the moment you have that appeal to look at what they're doing to our daughters

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It's like you fucking know and when you know who Tommy Robinson is the they isn't the system. It's Muslims. Yep, and so

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It's you can't see it without the context there

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But I don't care much because he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning this election

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I don't think he he's he's an absurdity and an awful awful pile of shit. But what he's doing I believe is

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The sort of logical conclusion of the free speech grift, uh-huh in terms of like he's had

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the payment processors

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Not want to work with him, right?

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He's been kicked off all the social media networks and so when he's doing this this this political campaign

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I think he's doing it specifically to keep

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Agitating against Muslims and doing the things that he does and has been doing for years

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But now be able to be like you guys not letting me on is disrupting the political process

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So what you're saying is he's trying to do this because he can't share his own content by running for a political office

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He forces the mainstream press to cover his bullshit or at least in it

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It's an attempt to yeah in an attempt to make the argument that these processors are not allowing

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Political campaign donations and then turn it into some issue that's much larger than it is when it really still is just about his

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Crusade against Islam and his personal agreement

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fantasies

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about his personal agreement being

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Forced onto everybody sure. Yeah, then it's just it's a mess and we'll get to a

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Flare up. Let's say on when we talk about the 20th, but for now, he's just on the show and he's like hey, man

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Help help me out

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I mean, yeah

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I need some sort of exposure and I can't get anything out anywhere because everybody knows I'm a dick, right?

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Because he is yeah, and so that's all we're gonna listen to Tommy for now

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Alex gets back into his own bullshit talking about how great martial law is and

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Making it pretty clear that

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He thinks that his audiences are sources of intelligence

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Okay, and I'll give the number out we start the next segment and I'm not gonna make you hold

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More than five minutes, but that means I must move quickly to your calls

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I know people are busy, especially if they're on duty or whatever, but we need the Intel when you get your take on Trump

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This is what Trump needs to do

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I 100% back it

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But there's gonna be fireworks from the traitors who instituted this collapse

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We try to stop the president doing the right thing, but I like Trump before I really like Trump now. Yeah folks

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It's martial law. We're already under anarchy. Anyways, stay with us

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So like a couple that is cheap a couple weeks ago. He was drunk and saying Trump made me turn on Trump

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Yeah, he's all over the fucking place. Uh-huh. It's just so conditional

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It's so day to day

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Anybody who pretends that like I've read hundreds of books and that's what I'm basing my assessment of the globalists and my lifelong crusade

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Against them like anybody who tries to pretend to have that rock-solid of a foundation about what they're doing

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But I can't imagine how embarrassing it would be for them to know that they're recording themselves

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Constantly contradicting themselves. I

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It's so bizarre. He's turned into like a

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Short-term stocks trader like every time the market goes up

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He's like Trump is the greatest thing in the history of the world and every time the market goes down

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He's like Trump should be impeached and he should be removed from office. He's got ISIS up his dirty asshole

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He's chasing whatever high the the short-term news

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Provides him whether it's pro or anti even his hero, right?

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And it's it's a fickle fandom you see as opposed to a legitimate support

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It almost makes sense as a like culmination of his 20 year-long mental degradation

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what you know, like as his attention span has gradually dwindled and dwindled and dwindled now, he's

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you know

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Unable to he's the he's the dude from memento. He's unable to remember the to ten seconds that he had before

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Yeah, it's I think it's also a manifestation of like what we talked about how little his principles mean

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Like yeah, it's in the in the present day. He doesn't even have time for the pretense. Well, he doesn't even remember his principles. No

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That kind of might be true for his own sake I hope he doesn't yeah cuz if he does he must be tortured

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Yeah in total for sure. It's like I can't imagine how much like I

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Do this show and it's like I eat sleep and breathe this show like the studying Alex Jones

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Researching his narratives and I hate him. I think he's the worst and I'm firmly convinced of that. I know he's a liar

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I know that he doesn't know what he's talking about

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I can't imagine what it would feel like in 20 years if we keep doing the show that long to be like

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Now Alex Jones was actually right

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Imagine how much that would hurt I can't imagine like and not only that but to continue doing the show for two years

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Believing the opposite continuing to believe the opposite

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So after supporting someone who is going to bring into existence the opposite. Yeah, exactly

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Yeah, and then you then every day you wake up with the the burning telltale heart

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I mean if you breaking beneath your floor if you feel you have to yeah have to experience that it's it

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I'm not trying to empathize with him or make anyone pity him but like it's gotta be it's gotta be a heavy load. Yeah

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And we're definitely not saying that's the only punishment. He requires his own guilt. No. No, we got a we got a pile

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I a lot of milkshakes on top of that. It'll be some bad ancestral

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Ancestral memory is coming from that ancestral memory. Yeah

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Okay, so

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It all seems kind of bad from our position in terms of his ideas about martial law

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And I will say even after this clip they won't look good

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But he tries to explain the difference between the martial law

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He fought against right and this martial law that he's encouraged. I assume he's gonna succeed

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Beyond our expectation. I did say he tries

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Martial laws associated with third-world countries. It's associated with failure

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It's associated with authoritarianism because the Clintons wanted to have martial law

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We learned is that gun confiscation that why which Camilla Harris and others have said we'll have a national emergency

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Remember, she threatened Trump when he won a national emergency. She said we'll have one. She's a prosecutor to take the guns

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That's the martial law. We don't want

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The same martial law. We don't want the martial law of having to put

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200,000 troops on the border or having to ignore the federal judges and the systems and it just helicopter these people back

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that would be the same a lot when we're already brought here of

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Anarchy and we've already got hundreds of thousands a month pouring across and diseases and Democrats

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It caught child trafficking and the breakdown of civilization in society. It's not the right

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It's the duty and I I politically use the term martial law because we're gonna be honest with politically

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This is a form of martial law that Trump is preparing the Institute. It's just all martial law means is in

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absence of normal

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Regular law because it's failed not what it means because the government's collapsed. Nope

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Then martial law meaning Marshall meaning the marshal of the band

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Meaning military really the marshal of the band. And so that's where we are in this country. It's not that's a troubling

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Attempt to equivocate, you know, oh, it's that is a shocking

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The I mean, it's not shocking because we know Alex, but again, it's just that it's hard to differentiate

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But when I say shocking because like I'm not shocked to hear Alex say this. Yeah shocked to hear someone. Yeah

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That's such a crucial difference

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What he's expressing is a

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Martial law for gun control bad martial law for ethnic cleansing good. Yeah. No, that's exactly what he's saying

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There is it's a form of martial law and the form of martial law is we're doing it to them

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We like that form of martial law. We don't like the form of law

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Of martial law where they're doing it to us

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That's it. It seems that way

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Describe like a different for the function of martial law for it to be something that fickle and trivial is

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Just a terrifying look at someone who's cruel doesn't mind hurting people. Mm-hmm. It's it's it's awful

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Yeah, it's an awful

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Like to be in that headspace is just it's a terrifying glimpse of how people can treat each other

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No, it's like I imagine Stalin really would have hated being a dictator

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Or like he really loved being a dictator, but he would have hated living underneath a dictator

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I'm a you know, like it's it's that kind of thing

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You know the people who are vicious always think that they're gonna be on top most dictators do not want to be peasants

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No, it's weird how that works. Yeah

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I I it's almost trite to even talk about but it's it's

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Necessary to look at yeah some way that like this is Alex now. Oh, yeah guys

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Hey Patriots, come get your boy. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. He's wiling out over here talking about martial law being good

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He is he is off the chain

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He's lost it and they agree with him though. Yes

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Yes, yeah, because nobody believed anything and it's just old white dude now

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it makes me think of that Webster Tarpley article that he wrote back in 2016 warning about the idea of the the the

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superficiality and the emptiness of

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libertarianism

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in terms of the Ron Paul movement right and now that is the vestibule wherein we will all be led to fascism and

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Authoritarianism damn it. It's so mad at Tarpley for making a good point

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It's fascinating that insight that he had and and how it really does track with

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Maybe not the entire world and certainly not necessarily all people who have

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Libertarian inclinations, but fucking Alex it is on the head. Yeah, right hitting that nail

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So, I don't know Alex's makes me sad

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and

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You know, it's interesting to what I expected to hear a lot more about these abortion bills

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Yeah, I thought that's all we were gonna talk about when we brought it up on our last episode

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I was like, well if we're gonna talk about the present then we're gonna have to talk about Alabama

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Does doesn't come up doesn't come up passing to say that they're protecting children every fucking time every fucking time

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I assume well, we've got to get into this issue

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It's like you got to give it up to the Somali pirates. God damn it Alex

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He might have talked about it in a couple episodes that I didn't listen to but in these three days

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I'm not a fucking mention of it except for just dismissive. Like these bills are great protecting children. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Great

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No analysis. Nothing. Yeah, I like it, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't hit some of my old favorites

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Like lying about Ellis Island, okay

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Island bring people in they they help people for three months

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On average in quarantine to make sure they didn't bring diseases in no one's being checked

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Diseases are pouring in. Can you imagine how huge?

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Ellis Island would have had to have been how cumbersome and expensive it would have had to be if they held people for three months

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on average that's

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Absurd how many so how many people would come through a day like thousands of so many thousands a day?

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so you've got a backlog of

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for three months you're looking at 90 days of

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Gradually a what geometrically progressing. Yeah. Oh shit. Yeah, that's no good. Yeah, it would be bad

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Ridiculous, it would be about 30 million people by the end of 90 days

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I would say that on a small estimate it would be

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Larger than the city of Chicago at any given time for sure

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100%

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With with a far smaller land mass. It's a laughable thing for Alex to be trying to present that

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Mm-hmm. I I I know that we've talked about Ellis Island probably too much in past episodes

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Yeah, but I do think it's important to bring it up because it's like this is what he believes

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Used to happen and it's not he's basing a lot of his

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understanding and his

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Recommendations about immigration on stuff that never has existed just complete historical revision

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It's fascinating that one of our probably I would say more

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astonishing achievements Ellis Island just like the the admission of so many immigrants from so many different places was

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kind of like a

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An achievement or like a representation of what America was supposed to me. Yeah, there's the entire world

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There's something turned it into who's something evil

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I think there's still some cultural and social problems with the history of Ellis Island. I'm for sure from a bureaucratic perspective. Yeah almost

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Impossibly amazing. Yeah, but it really is. Yeah

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So in this next clip Alex gets to those calls where he gets some Intel

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He put out the call for military and police people to call in and he doesn't come

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I mean you can't confirm that any of these people are actually in the military or cops

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You just call them and they've all been vetted. You can just call and say that you are

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No, you can only be hell you can only be on hold for a maximum of five minutes and during that time period that's ridiculous

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During that time period, you know, they clearly vet you and whether or not you are in the military

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No

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I'm willing to stipulate just through the sake of like I don't even want to get into it that they all are

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either cops or military people

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But sure, I do think it's important to point out that Alex has no way of knowing if they are or are not

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So we're gonna take the least likely scenario that all of these people are telling the truth just because who cares

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Right exactly and because if they're not this next call is really fucked up

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Okay, a caller tells Alex he's arrested a couple of undocumented immigrants

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Oh, that's not good. If he's not a cop then you can't do that. Well, apparently you can if you're in a border militia

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That's not that's no you really can't do that and they don't feel that way. Yeah, that's true. There does ice apparently anyway

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Here's this caller

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Big listen, they're a regular caller appreciate all your products and thank you

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So I won't waste any more your time sir, but uh in the last week, I'm in North, Texas

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I have a real I have arrested three illegals myself that

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Had drug contraband as well as other things on them. I'm nowhere near the border. I'm closer to Oklahoma than I am Mexico

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They have invaded us on every level as well known their influence from ms-13 to the work

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Just the drug pushers

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Okay, and everything else has gotten everywhere and

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And Trump must shut this place down now. This is beyond an emergency and it must be done

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I'm telling you Alex

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So I just played that clip to illustrate that this is kind of the consensus opinion of the people who are calling into his show

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Which I mean itself selected as his audience and the people who are still listening now

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Yeah, so, you know, it's to be taken with a grain of salt that it may not represent that large of a group

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But it's what they believe. It's what it's what Alex's audience is all on board with they have

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possibly

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Identical or more extreme take on it than him. Yeah, that's that's not good, especially

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Not if those are people who are in law enforcement. Yeah, that's usually a bad sign for civil rights in general

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It's a bad sign if they're in law enforcement and it's almost a worse sign if they like to pretend they're in law

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yeah, yeah, well all those border militias aren't really held in check by a

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ice or customs and border protection

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Like they're basically allowed to get away scot-free and they even look at them as allies more often than not

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Yeah, so there's there's a very real death squads just running around on South Texas

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It's a bad look at the future

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So speaking of bad looks at the future

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of this next clip

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Alex is in between calls and he realizes that like

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He needs to let people know that shit is getting real for him and he is in trouble

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I don't want to sit here and make the enemy happy about all the things they've done to us in there and their

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Operation that slowed us down to a standstill. I don't like it

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I do but at the same time as a cash 22 if I don't tell you you won't know

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Thanks for keeping us on the air

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but

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I'm reaching a point where I have to spend inordinate amounts of time fun in the operation

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Bye, oh my god

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If I knew this ten years ago back I used to can make money so easy and I just made the money

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I needed to run things and then never tried to get a bunch of extra which was just stupid

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Because now the things I know now

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If I'd have done back then we would just be in a 10-story building and have a helicopter to go cover news

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And we'd be in a much stronger position

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Ah

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He's having that rod Stewart moment that wish I knew what I knew now when I was younger

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Just just to let all of my listeners know I am bad at managing a radio station apparently

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Yeah, I'm the money is really bad. The money is fuck

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I used to have a shit ton of money

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And I pissed it all away when he was under the radar and people weren't paying attention to what he was saying

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He was like, yeah, like if you had a reasonably sized radio audience

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You could make quite a bit of money monetizing that audience

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Oh for sure advertisers, especially if you're going with these sort of weirdo advertisers that have really niche

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Survivalist audiences they're trying to read. Yeah, you have a market that's very

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Captive market that you're not gonna get you know CNN's not gonna be advertising for where to hide your guns

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You're not competing with people who have more

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More mainstream credible right platforms than you. So that's why we're only going to advertise for

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Avatar the last airbender box sets. That's the only thing

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For dude will advertise for Frank Herbert's estate and think about dude. Yeah

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Last time you thought about doing this is try doing it now

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Yeah, I think that Alex had what he's expressing there is is real and sincere yeah like money used to be no big deal

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I used to be swimming in it

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And I should have saved because I am fucked right now as a consequences of the things that I did when money was flush

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Yeah, like yeah. Well buddy, that's

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I just want to tell all my listeners. There's a story about a grasshopper as they say

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I mean, he didn't he didn't keep anything. He didn't keep any nuts for winter and that's how the cow ate the cabbage

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As they say

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So you might think that Alex is exaggerating his money woes

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But he says this a little bit later and I think that this should I said to sell my daughter

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This should give you a sense of like how bad it might be for him right now. Now. I don't have the money

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But we've got some sure cases against some people. I'd like to show to teach him a lesson

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If some rich endowment comes along would like to support the first moment fundus we're gonna show the southern property law center

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So Alex doesn't have the money to sue the SPLC like just this weekend the proud boys sued

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The SPLC so conceivably Alex has less money than the fucking proud boys

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well, I mean, okay, that's not a great sign now the proud boys are desperately suing the

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southern poverty law center

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whereas Alex wants to

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Punish the southern poverty law center with his suit, but it still comes got to teach them lesson

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He doesn't have a lesson teaching lawsuit money. He's just got a regular lawsuit

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I think it comes from a similar place because Alex complains that the SPLC is run by offshore banks and globalists and that

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They've designated him as a hate speech person and that's crippling his ability to use PayPal or something

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So, I mean his complaints are very similar to those of the proud boys and they've scratched they've scrounged up the cash

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Yeah, it makes me think that Alex may have less money than Gavin McGinnis and I don't think Gavin has saved from his vice

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So he talks some shit about John Ronson

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I don't really care

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Of course not move past that because he gets to another caller who I think is a lunatic

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And I think she might be a QAnon person. Okay, if I had to guess and here's what she has to say

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Oh, no, you're on the other end of

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Your list of four things that he needs to do

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He needs to stop these chemtrails get the Air Force shoot those sons of bitches out of the sky

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I'm sick of it. Everybody's sick. This is why people are delusional

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Well, it's true it's true that there is

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Globalist programs where they had Miriam source the oxide of the jet fuel and the companies don't even know

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There's a Nobel Prize given for the idea in

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1992

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But I mean the border good here in the country is collapsing

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This is a plan and the president has to take action against these people Debbie. Thank you so much for the call

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So Alex pivots to complaining more about the border because he needed to get off the topic a little bit because she just said shoot

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Planes out. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks for calling wild-eyed insane person Debbie. I hope you enjoy Minnesota

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So Lionel has been talking a bit about in his QAnon ramblings. He's been talking a bit about chemtrail stuff

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There's been some coverage of that which leads me to believe that maybe she's a Lionel fan. Yeah, and possibly a QAnon

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I don't know Debbie

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Debbie Debbie

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Also as I was listening to that I realized that what she's

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Representing could be one of the scariest fucking things in the idea in the world this idea

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Because let's say Trump does want to shoot a plane out of the sky, right? Let's say maybe Hillary's hold on

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That's a we're going into uncharted territory. That's a completely hypothetical situation

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There's no way that Trump a man who is possessed professed a desire to throw nuclear warheads around would ever want to shoot

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Just a plane. I'm obviously being very speculative and it would be under the it would be in

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Circumstance that is far past where we are now. Like it's a nightmarish scenario where we are in. We're fucked

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I was being facetious

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I understand but like if there were to come a day where he wanted to two or three weeks from now

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It would be very easy to use this as a cover

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Oh, yeah

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I'm fighting back against the chemtrail people who are poisoning your families with their barium salts in the sky

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Don't worry about that plane

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We're sick of it

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It made me realize how much these conspiracy theories could be incredibly powerful as a cover tool

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Oh or an aspiring dictator were they to want to use these like as an excuse for any

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Kind of extra judicial killing they wanted. Oh, we've seen this we've seen this play out time

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and again, whenever you get a fascist dictator in power, there's always going to be a

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Thinly veiled excuse to remove political enemies or start wars that are going to improve your situation

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I or just distract people from their day-to-day problems, which you are exploiting

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I understand that trend and I guess I just didn't realize how

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Useful some of the ones that I don't even think about are right, you know, the chemtrails isn't a conspiracy

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I think about very often but hearing her articulate it

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That way made me realize that like so many of the prongs right of the world that Alex has built up could very easily

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Be used to justify some really fucked up stuff

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well

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I mean go back through the justifications for any number of fucking cullings or genocides or whatever you like and

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Go deep further down and you find a ridiculous conspiracy theory. That doesn't really make any goddamn sense

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I don't disagree with you at all. I'm most I'm a large part of what I'm saying is

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fuck me for

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For having that experience of listening to her call as I should have thought about like, oh that would be useful for that

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yeah, yeah, I don't know anyway Alex takes one more call and

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I think it's interesting that the way this works out is that he's in the middle of doing a plug for his products and

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Then he goes to the call and let's see how that plays out

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It's 50% off as well. That's how we fund our

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Operations. So thank you very much for your support. We couldn't do it without you Shelly in Arizona last caller of this hour

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Shelly go ahead

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Hello, sir. Yeah

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Forgot what I was gonna say people keep calling me. Um, I just want to plug your products real quick the other day

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I bought six t-shirts. My son is currently wearing the 50 caliber

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1776 come and take it shirt to school today. That's awesome. And I

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Fixing to get me some of that b12 stuff

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And so she forgets what she's even going to talk about and you vamp by plugging Alex's products for him

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She's got a well-trained audience or they're fake. I can't decide which yeah, well one or the other that one's God

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She does eventually remember it sounds too insane

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Yeah, too plausible that you would have your son wear a yeah 50 caliber. It's believable

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But also is almost what you would do. Yeah, they call. Yeah, exactly. It's very hard to discern

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It's straddling the line between fantasy and reality that is blurring real life

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Anyway, and when she finally does remember what she's going to talk about

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It's just a bland call about how the border is a mess. So okay. I don't know. I don't know what yeah, but the I

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I don't know about intention. But what I do know is effect and in effect what it what you see is plug take a call

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I forgot I was gonna say hey, let me help you plug. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's just a fuck it

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I mean

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It's a it's a bad show and it and it totally could be reasonable because if you were a longtime listener of Alex's show

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And you got a hold of Alex on the air and you forgot what you were going to say

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You know to buy yourself time by just plugging his shit. It's the best way to vamp. You're gonna win some favors. He's gonna treat

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We're gonna give you an extra six minutes. Go ahead and go for it. Absolutely because you have bought that time through an ad. Mm-hmm

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so

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Sunday, that's the end of the 17th and we go to Sunday. It's just own Troyer. No big deal

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Who's about to be fired? It doesn't seem like the money is good now right now

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So we get to Monday the 20th, and I think that we see an interesting

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It's not a change, but there's a vibe that I'm really worried about. Yeah

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Well, I think that you should be very worried about this

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But at the same time I kind of see some signs that it might be a good sign. Okay good sign of okay

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I mean, I will ask no further pre questions. It's very complicated

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But I'll explain what I mean on the other side of this. Okay here from the 20th

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That is the essence of what these globalist are establishing

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Show it's here and people better organize against it. They better say no to it

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They better resist it and they better start setting up alternative systems to counter it

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Because the Bible says the beast system will come up and be live for one hour

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One hour now it's all

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Are

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Typal there, and it's not noted, but one hour means generally about a year and there in that time

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Most the earth's point a planetary population will be exterminated

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2,000 years ago that was written plus

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2,000 plus years ago, and then notice magically the world government wants to depopulate the earth today

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everything

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Abilations and Daniel Old Testament New Testament Ezekiel it all ties together

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It's all right there in black and white and that's why there's the war on Christians

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That's why they want anybody shut down that talks about this because it's all there so

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First I want to I want to point out that Alex has made the classic mistake here

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And I think we've seen signs of it, but it's very overt here on this episode

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He's going full-on Christian doomsday preacher. Yeah, which is a dead end for propagandists

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I don't see that going well for him if I had to guess it's a reflection of his diminished reach

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His radio presence is way smaller than he pretends it is he's not allowed on any normal social media platforms anymore

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So he's forced to really only exist in the ones mostly

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Populated by other people who've been kicked off Facebook and Twitter for their white identity and anti LGBTQ and anti Islam agitating

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I have a strong suspicion that a lot of the audience he finds himself still able to reach may also have some inclinations towards absurd

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Christian end times fantasies, which would understandably lead Alex to tailor his coverage more in that direction

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Or he's losing his mind and going towards that himself. Maybe yeah, maybe entirely

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I always have a cynical view until there's reason to abandon it because Alex has shown himself to be crass

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manipulative

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Right and a liar. There's usually something behind what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah for sure

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So you always look for a motivation that makes sense follow Occam's razor

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Yeah, it usually will guide it'll be your North Star with Alex, but he's always been a bit of a religious zealot

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But it feels like the last couple years are a markedly different kind of version of that in other periods

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We've covered in his career

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He has a religious streak, but it's nothing close to this level of doomsday prophecy that he is saying the beast system is here

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It's upon us the beast system

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Beyond that it's nice to see Alex explaining that idea that he had about the devil taking over for God for an hour

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Which we've heard him introduce on the past episode only to be cut off by a commercial break and it turns out that an hour

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Equals a year, right? I didn't know that

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So according to his reading of Scripture God is going to let the beast system be in place for an hour

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Which is easy. It's a year which makes sense. Yeah, so he's readying people to resist it

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So it's it's a it's a year in God hours. Is that

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Years and an hour to God an hour in God time in a year to God is a thousand years

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So an hour is a year. I don't know sure I can say categorically and with no hesitation

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That this is not what motivated him to resist the globalists earlier in his career

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Back in the early 2000s his worry was about the globalists creating a one-world government

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Which would rule forever with no hope of a revolution against its succeeding

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He imagined they would create a prison planet. Hence the name of his website. He didn't think they were gonna take over for a year

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Initially the thought that he had and he was expressing scared me

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But when I reflected on it more I'm kind of softening to it

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Because though what Alex is saying is very troubling to hear anyone say to their audience

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I think in many ways it represents a

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De-escalation of his rhetoric if this system is prophesied to only be in power for a year

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Then it stands to reason that you could wait it out

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And maybe the best plan of action is doomsday prepping behavior as opposed to attacking your perceived enemies

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I'm not sure that Alex's audience having been whipped up into a frenzy as they have already been will notice that strategic opportunity

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But it's interesting me to see to see the tyranny that he's now trying to scare his audience about has a built-in end date

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that kind of is a

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Trapdoor for his audience to have some sort of a hope

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And I mean, I suppose but it's it doesn't make any sense if you believe in God

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No, I mean just just in it just in the idea that what you're doing is going against God's will look

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I don't I don't care about any of that. Okay. Sorry the theological piece of it is is not what I'm talking about

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Okay, I'm saying that

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before

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Alex, I mean he still has that like almost everyone on earth is gonna be exterminated

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Yeah, yeah, but you could hold out. Hope that you're one of the people who would survive like there

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Obviously, you're not going to be able to stop whatever this is right from coming, right?

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God is prophesied. He's gonna let the devil take over for a fucking hour. You're not gonna stop that from happening

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Are you are isn't that what he's trying to do though? Not in this not in what he's expressing here. Okay, that's fair

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If it's there for an hour

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fucking get underground

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Underground Nazis are gonna come get you a good point. That's it. You can't go underground. You've got nowhere to go people down there

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Yeah, there's ant people. Yeah, what are you gonna do join go to the Getty and get all the way down there?

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No, you're fucked there too, right? I

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My

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Take on it might be generous

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I think it's probably generous. Mm-hmm, but there is a feeling that I have that that is at least

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something that allows for a

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healthier

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Approach to be taken by his audience in the sense that like doomsday prepping is a little paranoid and maybe

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Misguided by in a lot of cases, but you know that the ideas of like storing canned food and having water

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Yeah growing plants stuff like that is not that's not that unhealthy

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And yeah direct the energy that Alex scares you into by into doing that as opposed to I don't know

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trying to kill people

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Well, I'm a parentheses politically obviously in parentheses. Yes. Yeah

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Yeah, or yeah, you know yelling about locking up Hillary and political enemies, right?

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I'd you'd rather have him take a proactive stance towards preparation and a I'm reading rather than a reactive stance towards murder

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Yeah, I'm reading far too into it then probably deserves to be there

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Yeah, but it is interesting because this this I've been listening to Alex for quite a while

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I've never heard this idea of a year. Yeah, or an hour

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I don't I've never heard that it's very new but it's just the potential end point is aspirational. There's hope. Yeah

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Is that some left-behind shit? They must be yeah, that's what what what so let's let's talk about the biblical piece of it

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So revelation 13 discusses the beast and verse 5 specifically lays out how long the beast would be given power and guess what?

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It's not an hour and it's not a year quote

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There was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies and power was given unto him to continue 40 and two months

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So it's 42 months or three and a half years. Was that the say were they still on the Gregorian calendar?

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Whenever it's probably code. So who knows? Okay, that's a good point now later in Revelation 17 verses 11 and 12

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It does say quote the beast who was and now is not is an eighth King

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He belongs to the seven and his go is going to his destruction

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The ten horns you saw are the ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom

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But who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. I just want to say great job John

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This was a fantastic prophecy. Uh-huh. Really loved it. It makes clear present sense. I I think

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You did a great job. Just retroactively just want to let you know that on his Amazon

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God God has given you a big ol thumbs up here. So there is that hour in the Bible that is something that he's taking

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Word from it now this led to a bit of a problem in my research because obviously Alex is trying to appeal to his

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Interpretation of the Bible and there's nothing I can really do with that and none of its real

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There's no amount of research that I can do to prove that he's wrong and his imagined code isn't the right way to read the text

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Mm-hmm. So I'm I kind of came to an impasse and just like well, that's what you think Alex, but that doesn't mean

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We can't discuss things a little bit more and try and explore what he's doing

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Revelation is one of the highest profile examples ever of a genre known as apocalyptic literature

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The genre took roots in early Jewish writings and the texts had primarily two functions that they served

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the first was to explain why previous prophecies hadn't been fulfilled and

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The second was to make a sense of the awful conditions people were living in when presumably God is good and all-powerful

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Pre-exile prophets issued prophecies that had come to pass partially like for instance the Jewish people returned from exile in Babylon

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But though parts had come true other parts had not this introduced a problem that needed to be sorted out

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So the prophets reinterpreted these older prophecies to show that the quote promised glories of the renewed Kingdom were yet to come

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The older prophets had also predicted an invasion of Judah by enemies from the north which never came to pass

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Thus Ezekiel reinterpreted that is the final assault by Gog upon Jerusalem

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Which from that point onward has become a consistent feature of apocalyptic literature fucking Gog man Gog and my god

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Every time we get into Gog shit, right?

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So these earlier prophecies by like Jeremiah that were saying that there was going to be an invasion of Judah that never ended up happening

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Were reinterpreted as the end times that were still yet to come in order to make sense of why part of the prophecy came true

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And the other part did yeah

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Yeah

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It's the ancient times version of the guy who did math and he was like I figured out that the date of our

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Prophecy the world ending is bad

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Comes and it's gone and it was like well, I got my math wrong

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So let's rewrite this probably less manipulative and less crassly than these modern-day people

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but no less

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Wrong, there was a more society. There's a higher social purpose that they were probably working towards which I'll get into in a sec

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So Jeremiah prophesied that the messianic kingdom would return within 70 years

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But when that time passed and nothing changed Daniel reinterpreted years to mean a different span of time

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Which was almost at its end the apocalypse of Baruch and fourth

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Ezra both attempt to reinterpret this prophecy again when the span of time had passed and the messianic kingdom didn't arrive

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So this is a consistent thread that goes throughout the tradition

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Yeah, somebody makes something up. The next person is like and then makes up something different

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Yeah, next person's like makes up something different still so to the second feature

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I think it's pretty self-explanatory conditions for the common person in the 500s BCE were not very great

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Especially compared to what they would have expected given the prophecies about the lavish kingdom that was to come

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Many people suffered which felt out of line with previous prophecies

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So an explanation was needed to show people that the prosperity and good life that they had longed for was still on the horizon

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This tradition of literature literature evolved over the years until the writing of Daniel which is considered to be the first fully mature

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apocalyptic text

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Daniel's a really interesting text because the question of authorship

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It's ascribed to as being written by Daniel the one who lived through the lion's den

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But scholars don't believe that this is possible and the date that they give the text is

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167 to 163 BCE somewhere in there

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One of the chief reasons for this is that there's a weird thing that happens in the text as it relates to the accuracy of

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prophecies

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Everything that Daniel predicts at the beginning of the book matches up with historical events

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But at the point of the book where he predicts the circumstances of the death of Antiochus the fourth everything falls apart

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This is fucking Game of Thrones

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The first set of the first five seasons were based on the text and then he made it up and they fucked it up

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There's a parallel

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No spoilers

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That's very funny. It is very funny. It's interesting that it does go along that way

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He gets the death of Antiochus wrong and then he predicts a war that never happened

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And in general the predictions past that point in the book are markedly detached from what we know from the historical record

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in stark opposition to the beginning of the book

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Scholars believe the book was written during this period and should be understood in this context at the time

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Antiochus represented an existential threat to the Jewish community

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So the prophecy of his death and the coming kingdom served to give the people a sense of hope in a rather dark time and to

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reinforce the credibility of the sense of hope the author of Daniel used Daniel as the hero of that text which allowed him to use

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things that he knew from history as

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Predictions Daniel would have made of the hundreds of years that had happened in between, right?

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It's like when one of our psychics goes on Project Camelot and is like I predicted that this would go down

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And it's like well, we don't have any evidence of you predicting that before the event happened, right?

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We only have evidence of you saying you predicted it after yeah

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Revelation doesn't exist in a vacuum and has to be approached and understood within the canon of apocalyptic literature

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Mostly because the book entirely relies on the apocalyptic tradition and makes tons of references to it

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Revelation is held up by the final battle ideas that trace back to Ezekiel

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Reinterpreting prophecies of wars that never came to be it has a prophecy

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It uses prophecy as a tool of political speech in the same vein that Daniel did it's an insanely complicated thing that many people

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spend lifetime studying and no one who takes scholarship seriously believes

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It's wise to look at any of these books as containing literal or coded messages that we should use to predict the future

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That is a silly thing to do that said a whole lot of people have tried to do just that what at this point?

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I was gonna list off all the people who have tried to use revelation and their interpretation of support their predictions too long and line

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Their pockets too long right the list is too long and all of them have been equally and completely wrong

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Yeah, so consider that in the history that we have well. Yeah, but Alex is gonna get it right. That's hubris

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That's a pretty brazen

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It's my faith for for anybody with the sort of recorded history that we have

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Even of just the last 20 years you could yeah to have that history and still have the balls

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To try and make revelation based predictions about the future

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It just seems like you have to be I mean you're pissing in the wind. Yeah, but I mean okay. It's it's like

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It's like fucking El Dorado man. You know you you you're gonna go for El Dorado

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You're probably gonna die, and you're never gonna find it right, but the guy who gets it right

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What what that guy's gonna go down in history? I mean in this circumstance. He's gonna die along with the rest of

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It

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There's a sense of personal achievement

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There's no win except for a scam like it really there isn't

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Anything that we can see from these people who have used revelation to predict the end times

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I'll write them to them trying to raise money off it right it sounds like the supreme Douglas Adams bit

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the

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scam

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Apocalypse guy who accidentally gets it right you know like the the guy who's scamming everybody and then on the day that it's supposed to

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Happen he's like oh

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God damn it somebody fucking with me today

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Yeah

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So all of these people have been wrong and Alex will be wrong as well

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And he's foolish to go down this path because it doesn't lead to anything other than having to revise your prediction once

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It doesn't come true. I do admire on some level that he's resisted the urge to say a specific date. Yeah

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I

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Showed some restraint is still there. I almost admire the I go the opposite direction

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I admire you more if you pick a certain date than if you just give me a vague if Alex if Alex chooses a date

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You'll know it's over. Yeah. Yeah, the world no

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Yeah, but as it relates to Alex Jones and all these people who would try to weaponize revelation for their own

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And I would like to quote to them Deuteronomy 18 verse 21 and 22

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Oh, that was all about laws and shit. Yeah, there were so many of them

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We don't even need to worry about Deuteronomy quote and if thou say in thine heart

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How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?

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When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord if the thing follow not nor come to pass

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That that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the Prophet hath spoken it presumptuously

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Thou shall not be afraid of him. You heard it first in the Bible. Don't be afraid of Alex Jones

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Very

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Wrong very wrong

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Yeah

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If the if the Deuteronomy is telling us that the mark of someone who is a false prophet is he says things that don't come

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to pass

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Alex you sir Oh are biblically a false prophet Oh for sure, but the Bible is wrong

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You should be afraid of false prophets because they will fuck your shit up

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Maybe not on a otherworldly level but on a on a this world, right?

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Right, right. You should be afraid of them. Yeah

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So Alex despite what we kind of understand about

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Apocalyptic literature and how revelation is a really fucking stupid thing to use to make future predictions

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Alex still is on that tip

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Bible prophecy is being fulfilled

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world government clone humans

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The break of your family all of it foretold all of it planned all of it here and yes folks

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It's not just the evil ones taking the Bible and using as a blueprint. No, there's a master behind this

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So that's to imply that there is a literal devil and that also there's a literal God that Alex is working in service of he's

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Not just some guy who is doing a radio show

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He's a tool of divinity which I mean that's not new but it's just it's not

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It's too easy to forget that he thinks that are we sure the music guy isn't fucking with him

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Because having like Doctor Who style synths going on directly behind him while he's giving these

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apocalyptic predictions is like

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Are you self-aware? Do you know he's fucking with us? Are you fucking with us? Yeah, it's hard. Are you fucking with Alex? I

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Feel like his staff is so incompetent now like the people he could get to employ

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I don't know if any of them are that clever. Although it could be yeah

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I mean, it could be a manifestation of like slight rebellion. Mm-hmm. So maybe maybe it's possible. That'd be fun

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um, so Alex gets into some scientific talk in this next that's not a good idea to go from

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Apocalyptic literature to and now we're gonna get really into the standard model

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Well, the science talk is kind of in service of the apocalypse talk. Sure scientists do that all the time means by which

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The science the science is going to bring in

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Death that the globalists are going to be in charge of for an hour

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The globalists have already been in charge for a long time according to Alex

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Yeah, but the devil is gonna be in charge for an hour. No, the ten kings are

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They're just working with the Beast

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Anyway talking some science Bible the forced inoculations are here that forced GMOs here the force 5g is here

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And they admit all of it kills us headline top scientist 5g hundreds of respected scientists sound the alarm when the effects of 5g

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Networks go up nationwide LA Times admits gives you cancer, but they don't care

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And you ain't part of it and the plan is to kill you and your family

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Music guy

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Just like be on it

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You know

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It doesn't make sense under

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Undercuts that you need to fill can't yell like they're gonna kill you over Steely Dan or something. It wasn't

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So you might notice there that was a little aggressive going out to break

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And I think that there's a trend that I'm starting to notice that characterizes almost Alex almost all of his ad breaks in this episode

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It's something that I've seen a lot of from him in the present day with shocking regularity

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He goes out to break yelling about how the globalists want to kill you and your family

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Ramping up the fear that he's trying to create in his listeners

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Meanwhile when he returns from break he generally doesn't have that same intensity and terror most frequently

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He comes back for break bragging about his own victimhood like this segment right here that ended like that it began

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With him playing a super cut of people on the street being nice to him while he talked over the video saying stuff like this

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Is why they banned me

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Implying that he's just too popular everyone loves him and the globalists had to silence him

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They had to so there's almost like congratulatory thing coming in to break. So it's like you you saw through the bullshit

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Yeah, you know, yeah, you're here. Aren't you glad to be here?

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So when you're heading into a commercial break, your number one job is to keep people from turning the dial

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This is why news shows do that embarrassing clickbait type story thing where they're always

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Someone trying to kill your child

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Come back at five and we will get yeah after the break. We'll tell you about the threat to your child

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Yeah, so lettuce that trend exists in poorly done

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Exploitative media. Yeah all over the place and I see this trend happening a lot more in Alex

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And I know that we've had a lot of laughs over the years about Alex yelling out to break

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And of course, he's done it a bunch

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But please trust me someone who's listened to more infowars than anyone ever should it's noticeable that he's doing it a lot more lately

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If I had to hazard a guess I would say that it's because his numbers are really down

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And he has to use whatever trick he can to keep people around

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I'm no expert and I have no hard data to support this

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Although if you look on Alexa is traffic seems to be going downward

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But it's hard not to read this as anything other than pure desperation on display

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The only thing Alex has left to offer his audience is mortal fear. He's having a fucking Easter sale on it

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It's trying to terrify people. It's mess. Nice writing. Thanks

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So to the science question, yeah about 5g and these scientists are saying sure sure sure sure

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Sure guys, come on the question of where Alex's 5g's

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Fears land on the scale of crazy versus reasonable is a little bit hard to answer

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I can't deny that there are many scientists who have expressed concern about the increased exposure to radio frequencies and how they could have

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Unintended health consequences. So it doesn't seem like it's something that Alex is making up out of thin air

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I've read a comic book spider-man. That's

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What would happen you got bit? Yeah by a spider with radio

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Yeah, see there you go

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So the 5g spider the problem with thinking that Alex might be on a sort of reasonable tip here is when you get into the

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Details the reason these scientists are concerned about the increased health risk has to do with the increase in the number of transmitters

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Which would be putting out these frequencies now what's interesting about their specific compliance is that they're not just talking about

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About 5g is what they're concerned about

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The scientists who are talking about this stuff pretty regularly make a point that it would be just as bad with 2g 3g 4g

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Or Wi-Fi the problem for them is all wireless communication

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So for Alex to accurately champion the cause of the scientists he's using as a source

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He would have to take it to that level and if he got rid of wireless communications

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He wouldn't be able to use that sweet earpiece that he uses for his staff to talk to him and give him updates and shit

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I am going to ask this question so very simply and basically

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Do they know what?

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5g stands for do you mean Alex? Yeah, I mean any of these like 5g

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Truthers or whatever. I'm probably they know they probably yeah, I would assume so, but it doesn't matter

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They don't they don't care about that. They don't care about details. Well, I mean, it's just that 5g is

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Just the fifth generation right of the same concept conceptual radio waves, right?

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So they have to think that something is piggybacking on top of the radio waves. No, no, no, no, no, not the scientists

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I mean Alex and those guys. Oh, no. No, you must understanding that too

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Because you could make a decent argument based on the fact that the 5g is using

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Parts of the spectrum the wave spectrum that don't travel as far so they do need to put up a bunch more transmitters

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In order to have coverage for the 5g networks. Okay, so the idea that there would be increased

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radio frequency radiation isn't based on a

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Like an intrinsic misunderstanding of what's being discussed, right?

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It doesn't require that something nefarious be piggybacking it. They're just saying there would be more transmitters

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Thus everyone would have more of this radio frequencies

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Bombarding them and that in and of itself is the nefarious thing, right?

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I suppose

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Okay, so that's why there is the kernel of I need to I would need to read up a lot more before I did

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Okay, there we go. So the issue is that Alex is reporting this as if it's a new story at all

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He posted an article on infowars over the weekend with the headline quote

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hundreds of respected scientists sound the alarm about health effects as 5g networks go up nationwide

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Which definitely gives the sense that these scientists are currently sounding the alarm which is not the case

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That happened back on September 13th

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2017 when a hundred and eighty scientists and doctors appealed to the European Union about 5g

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Asking them to put a moratorium on rolling out the technology until there were appropriate studies done about its safety

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They were appealing to the EU because the EU had spent a whole shit ton of money making preparations and researching for 5g

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So it seemed like a good place to go in

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response to their petition the EU clarified that quote the

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Responsibility for protecting the public from the potential harmful effects of electromagnetic fields remains with the member states

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Including the choice of measures adopted

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So if you understand that response

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It's saying that the EU EU member states have these sovereign decision of whether or not to adopt 5g

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It's a states rights argument. No, but and they're affirming it exactly

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No one is forcing anyone rather than I guess the sovereign governments that do choose to implement it

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It'd be like it's the federal government saying that this it's up to the states. Well, and and the the only force

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That's being done is by the sovereign countries upon the citizens of those countries who don't want it, right?

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So, I don't know if I feel about that

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I guess there's a little bit of room for discussion

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But whatever the EU clearly is affirming their position that it's a country's choice and that's really something that Alex doesn't want to do

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Sovereignty, that's something he doesn't want to discuss

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I wonder why it runs counter to his idea of the EU taking away state sovereignty

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Ultimately the more I look into 5g the question of it the less concerned I am about it and the more I feel like

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This is a manufactured freakout narrative that Alex is basing a small kernel of truth on and he's just jumping from there into

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Irresponsibility. I can't imagine that there weren't

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Scientists at the advent of the fucking radio that weren't like the radio waves are probably gonna kill us. I'm positive

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They're yeah, of course every single thing. Yeah

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Um, there are some people who have concerns about potential health effects and they're not necessarily

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Lunatics or doctors who aren't doctors right? No, what I'm what I mean to say not is that they're all quacks

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Oh, it's a very valid and important thing for people to have that that people like Alex are manifesting

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What quackery would be based on some scientists that raise hey, we should study this, right?

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exactly one of the big things that Alex and anti 5g point to as evidence of their side of the argument is that the

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International Agency for research on cancer has listed radio frequency electromagnetic fields as quote possibly carcinogenic to human

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God, damn it. Everything is well, it's rarely pointed out that the IARC has only five categories for things

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There's carcinogenic

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Probably carcinogenic possibly carcinogenic probably not carcinogenic and not classifiable

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Uh, well, do you strongly agree with that? Do you mildly agree with that? Do you agree with that?

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Do you disagree with that or do you mildly disagree with that or strongly disagree with those classifications dad? I agree with them

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Okay, things like aluminum production or the Epstein-Barr virus

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Evil, they're listed as carcinogenic as they've been shown directly to be directly linked to cancer

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Anabolic steroids or working as a hairdresser or barber are listed as possibly or probably carcinogenic as is

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Eating red meat or drinking beverages hotter than 65 degrees Celsius. Oh, I'm fucked. Those are probably

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Because you're a hairdresser who likes drinking really hot things while you got it the whole thing

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Included in the possibly carcinogenic category along with 5g the radio frequency radiation

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Here's some of the things that are in that category dogs know being a firefighter on Wednesday dry cleaning

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exposure to gasoline car exhaust pickled vegetables

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Right and aloe vera right the definition for inclusion in that group is quote

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There is some evidence that it can cause cancer in humans, but at present it is far from conclusive

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This is this context is really important since it explains what researchers mean when they say certain things

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The technical meaning of possibly to the IARC is different than what it means

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conversationally and Alex and his cohorts are taking advantage of that difference of definition and

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manipulating people right the possibly carcinogenic list is almost like a

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chronicle of modern inventions if you want to exist in a relatively modern space

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You're probably going to come in contact with possibly carcinogenic things. That's that's partially true, but partially

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Not quite because a lot of them end up in the not category

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Categorizable area uncategorizable. Yeah, because there aren't studies that have been done that show one way or the other

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Right, right for something to be in the possibly category. There has to be some kind of a study that is indicated

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It's possible right? It's connected but nothing is substantiated. So it is a smaller list than you think

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Yeah, but it is wild that like aloe vera and pickles are in there. Why not? Right?

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It's just because those are things that there are studies. Yeah studies that have there aren't any studies on whether or not regularly eating

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Platypus will give you cancer, right? But that could be in one of these categories if that were studied

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You know what a platypus is considered a fish

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By the Catholic Church, oh, I didn't know that yeah, cuz you can't eat it the same ways with beavers

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You can't eat red meat on

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Fridays or whatever for whatever reason because it's probably carcinogenic

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Yeah, so the Pope made beavers fish because they live in water Catholic trivia. Yeah, so fun

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Yeah, it is

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So the LA Times article Alex is talking about there also about the 5g stuff is from August 8th

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2016 and it talks about a study that was done which exposed rats to tons of radio frequency radiation and found quote

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small increases in tumors and male rats and makes it clear that quote

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Extrapolating the results to humans gets complicated a good way to some of the article comes from a quote they include quote

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I don't think it's clear that there are health risks

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But it's also not clear that there are no health risks says Lika key fetus an epidemiology professor at UCLA

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Fielding School of Public Health who has studied the effects of cell phone use. Yeah, that's such a responsible thing to say it infuriates you

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Right, totally. It's such like a well, we need more information either way. So call back later. That's the point

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Unless your phone gave you cancer in which case you won't be able to call

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That's the point of the article, but it doesn't make a good headline

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No

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It makes a terrible head and so you make a more sensational headline and now it's can dance on it science results

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Inconclusive should be the headline of just about every science article

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Yeah, so I'm not so worried about this 5g stuff and I don't think Alex is on good footing

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But he gets into worse footing. Okay a little bit later because he starts talking about Islam and no

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I don't you remember how he was getting really revelatory

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Revelation stuff

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Revelation to Muslims that's gonna be bad. That's gonna be the great enemy and the Beast and all that shit

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I don't want that it's not good. I just wanted to live in a world where they don't do that

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Well, unfortunately, we live in this world. God damn it Alex into this world is expressing the world

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He wishes to see oh, that's not good. And this is just bad. The technocrats don't want a pro-human future

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that's why they're bringing in the 1.8 million Muslims that are incompatible and

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That's why the great law of Europe and the great law of America now is don't talk about what Muslims are doing

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Well, certainly role of Muslim Club don't talk about Muslim Club. Yeah, but I mean, I think that like just people have

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a

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reticence to accept you saying that certain like a religion is

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incompatible with

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Good society. I think that that is

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Like it's not no one's saying don't talk about Islam. No one's saying don't talk about Muslims. They're saying don't do that

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Yeah, that's don't do what you just did in that clip

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I mean his argument boils down to about a seventh of the entire population of the human race is

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Fundamentally incompatible with the other six sevenths of it which leads to exterminationism or it leads to

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Complete isolation and separation. Yeah inevitably will lead to a war of course. Why wouldn't it there's no other solution. So even the

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Restrained benevolent solution to whatever he's describing does lead to yeah violence eventually

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It's like okay, you know what we're against violence

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So all Muslims go to Australia and you stay there and we barricaded it around like that's that's it's insane

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Yeah, so in this next clip Alex

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explains his feelings on

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Islam and himself and his team I guess this is troubling and disturbing

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But I also think that you can see this consistent trend that he does

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Where earlier in the episode he was talking about how he doesn't want martial law

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But the globalists are making them do it. Of course

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It's sort of the same thing that he's saying about I don't want to fucking say we got to get rid of all the Muslims

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But they're making me he's being forced into this position or at least that's I don't want to hate black people

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It's exactly that yeah, it's it's it's a very pathetic way to be live monster. Yeah

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And I want to explain something. I personally

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Don't look out. I hate people from the Middle East coward

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You're a coward and I personally don't want to be at war with Muslims because you're a coward and I understand

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There's a larger globalist plan for a clash of civilizations

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But if your daughter gets kicked down a subway

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Stairs by a group of Islamic sisters. They think you know that she's a profane

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You know dog creature because she's a Christian or whatever the police or the media try to cover it up and that's wrong

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And so if a horde of radical Islamic sister coming down your French Street

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Or you're having your crosses taken down on the coastline of Greece just offensive to Muslims

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That's war and that's wrong

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We already know from covering stuff that I don't know what specific story he's talking about or if there even is one with a woman

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Being kicked downstairs. Yeah, but I know that that cross story he's lying about we talked about that

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That doesn't give me much hope that the other stories are being accurately reported here

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So if that's your justification for why Islam is at war with you, you're you're starting off on a bad foot

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You know

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I was I was listening to that and I was thinking maybe our solution for

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Shitty propaganda and how awful our media is as a whole is not deep platforming people

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What it is is putting a referee in every live broadcast room

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Oh, we talked so when he's so when he's like that last when he's like, oh and your daughter gets kicked out

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So there's just a giant whistle and he's like emotional manipulation next five five minutes

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I suggested that as a punishment for him like on our third episode. Yeah sitting there back. Nope. That was years ago

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Yeah, this clip isn't done. That is a good idea

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I just wanted to point out that that is something that we've talked about already the cross story and it's bullshit, right?

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I

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Understand it's a manipulated collision. I

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Understand it's a manipulated clash

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but it doesn't change the fact if you're on the receiving end of it and

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capitulating to it and

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Going along and saying oh Islam's great. It's religion of peace

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There isn't a class of civilizations happening only adds the globalist program. We must be honest about the cancer

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That has become Islam in this current permutation and the fact that the globalism is a cancer and

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the fact that the left

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system is cancer

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Mainline churches that just want to be country clubs have become cancers. It's not good to

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hear that because I mean it's not good because

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He's saying that Islam that the globalists and the left are all cancers

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yeah, and then throwing in the mainstream Christian churches is also kind of

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terrifying because

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If he's saying that mainstream Christian churches are cancer. Those are the ones that are going to be more tolerant

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So if you are not in an extreme

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Christian church that believes in his patriot beliefs as Christian identity beliefs

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Then they are a cancer as well that you should get out of that church. They're misrepresenting God, right?

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I would be more interested to see what he thinks of mainstream churches, right?

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Just like you know what I mean, just like that dude who thought that the Tea Party was a leftist group liberal group

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Right. I'm sure he's talking about Joel Osteen like that kind of scam. I know the prosperity gospel

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I know that he doesn't like the glitter bugs, right?

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Yeah, I know he doesn't he doesn't care for the prosperity gospel, but he likes Paula White Cane

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I don't know if he does specifically but you'd think he would so she likes Trump. Exactly. I don't know

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I don't know if she's a scammer of the highest order. Yeah, I'm not positive

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I've heard him come down on her either either way

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But I don't I think that it's more the churches that don't hate people

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Yeah, like the massive Unitarian Church not hating Muslims as a policy. Yeah

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Yeah, so he's talking about this and I was hearing it and I thought like well

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This is on brand for now, right for present-day Alex Jones

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Yeah

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But at the same time it in the context of talking about apocalyptic fantasies at the beginning of the episode

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You get the sense that there's something really fucked up that he's communicating and I didn't understand exactly what he was getting at

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other than just

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Filling time. Yeah, and icing people and saying it's not our fault that we're demonizing you you made us right

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All right, and I didn't understand the track that was being laid until he starts playing a video that Tommy Robinson sent him

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No

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So Tommy Robinson

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Well, I'll just explain I imagine him in whatever video you're about to play

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I imagine him as Dick Van Dyke doing a shitty cockney accent wearing a Nazi uniform and that's how I'm gonna

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Yeah, that's how I'm imagining this it's inaccurate. Yeah, so I've watched the video that

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He sent Alex of his event. Tommy Robinson did and I thought about it long and hard and there's only one thing

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I really want to say and I think I've said it before but I'd like to double and triple down on it

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And that is fuck Tommy Robinson

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Tommy's currently engaged in some kind of publicity stunt tour where he's pretending he's running for office

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Then he shows up in towns to give pretend stump speeches in his video

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He specifies that he's going to working-class towns and from everything in this video white

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Yeah, and everything of the video I've seen I'd be hard-pressed to find two non-white people in the footage

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Yeah

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He specifically even says that he's avoiding places with Muslim population so he can speak to his people

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Sure

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Given Tommy's career his beliefs his lifelong pattern of criminality his lifelong association with Nazi and white supremacist groups

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His documented history of resorting to violence and the fact that his entire brand is based on his flagrant Islamophobia

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It's not hard to see what he's doing

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He knows goddamn well that he doesn't have a chance of winning a fucking dogcatcher

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Election and this political campaign is the perfect ruse to carry out his anti-muslim anti-islam agitation

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Particularly now that he's been kicked off social media

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He can go to predominantly white working-class areas and give campaign speeches

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Which he knows will be disrupted eventually which will then give him the perfect optics to continue his bullshit for another cycle and get more

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Donations in grift. Uh-huh. And that's exactly what happened last week

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Yep, Tommy was giving a speech in Oldham on

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Saturday May 18th and there was a large faction of folks who showed up who were not fans of his

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Apparently some threw eggs and bricks those those might not have been bricks. They might have been rocks. I'm not entirely sure

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Tommy could not have been happier. You can kind of see it in the video

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He's smirking while he talks about the event

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His cameras caught everything perfectly a group of white families

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Just trying to support the political process or attacked by a group of unruly Muslims

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He got all the footage of children being put in cars where he yells in the bullhorns

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About how you need to be concerned for their safety. These children are being attacked

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Obviously, I worry for those kids safety. Absolutely

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But I also worry about their parents choices bringing them to a fucking Tommy Robinson rally right before he even got involved in politics

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He'd been arrested three times for violent acts including one time in

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2005 when he assaulted an off-duty cop who tried to break up an altercation between him and his girlfriend who was issued a

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Citation for being in possession of cocaine and his behavior has gotten less safe for kids to be around since then

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I'm not blaming those parents fully but it takes quite a bit of ignorance to not know what you're getting into going to a Tommy

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Robinson rally it has a particular character. You know, what's gonna happen? Yeah

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I do not endorse the people throwing rocks at Tommy. I strongly disapprove of non milkshake. No, no rocks. No rocks. I

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I disapprove of non milkshake related violence and even more than that. This is exactly the outcome

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Tommy wants he gets to be the victim and he could use these videos as a powerful

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Recruitment tool to convince white people that they're under attack from Islam. No two ways to slice this for me

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I don't support what these people did but I wholeheartedly support the political message behind it which boils down to fuck you

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Tommy Robinson, which is something that he could hear every day and it wouldn't be nearly enough never

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So Alex is gonna make a big deal out of Tommy's very manipulative video about what happened to him and how Islam is evil

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We're not going to listen to much of it because like I said fuck Tommy Robinson

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I'm not interested in deconstructing what he's all about. I think we all pretty much see his game for what it is

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There are a couple points though where Alex's commentary on the video drifts into territory where it becomes relevant for us to discuss

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So there are a few of those clips in here and you'll hear a little bit of Tommy's video under Alex talking

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Which is mostly just a explain this for context

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Here is Alex playing the video and commenting over it. I think he says something. That's very telling

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Americans but nowhere for the evil Christians

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I think he is pretty explicitly expressing white nationalist

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Beliefs. Yeah, is he ascribing that language to them?

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No, he's saying that those places exist for them, but there's no homeland for the white man

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I mean he says Christian, but we know what he mean. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you why would you say Africa for Africans?

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And then Christian like there are no Christians in Africa

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Well, and we know what you think and that language is very explicitly the language of white nationalist. Yeah, absolutely

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So when he uses that and then instead of white people says Christians, you know what he's doing

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Oh, yeah, it is and it's

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pathetically

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Transparent absolutely. It's really bad. Yeah, it's really bad. No shit like at the at a certain point. That's that's so

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God, I'm just bummed just we just fucking say it you did he did just use the word

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I know use the word so in this next clip

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he talks about the cops and why they hate Tommy most of it is because they are as j-dubs and

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Alex says something in this clip that validates something you said on a recent episode

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And the cops are telling them it's your fault Tommy for running for Parliament

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It's your fault for being born in England

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It's your fault because you don't roll over to die like we do because you're not a traitor

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All those SJW cops just look at them so when we did that crossover episode with QAnon Anonymous

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You may have made a point about Alex calling people race traitors and I think everyone's uncomfortable with that terminology

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But you listen to that clip

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That's what Alex is saying. Yep. He's saying those cops are mad at Tommy because he's not a traitor to his people

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Yeah, that's who boy. Yeah, you know, it sure seems like

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it was

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You know, I was I

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Don't know if I was exaggerating all the time

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A lot a few years ago

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but a lot of the extreme language that I used to describe these people has been less and less extreme in regards to

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Exaggeration as time has gone on. Yeah as we've gathered more information that you've gotten less

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Extreme with your rhetoric because we've realized it's accurate. Yeah, exactly

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Yeah, yeah, or at least if your descriptions of these dicks

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So one of the things that's important to point out is that Alex is playing this video that highlights this

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This conflagration that happened at a Tommy Robinson rally, which yeah, if you know Tommy's history if you know what he's all about

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This is exactly what he is begging to happen

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He puts

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Tinder and gasoline on top of woods and waits for somebody else to throw a match on

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None of that is to say that the event is staged or fake or anything like that

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But it's exactly the sort of optics Tommy begs for because it's the kindling for the fire that he knows how to build

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Exactly, and it's important to point out that this video that Alex is playing is specifically

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Campaign materials for Tommy's run for the Parliament the establishment has literally thrown everything at me during this campaign

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But I never would have imagined they'd have their police lead a Muslim mob wearing balaclavas to my family-friendly

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Campaign event to attack it go. We all have a choice on May 23rd

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I need you if you want to send a message to all those traitors in Parliament

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Here it is then vote for Tommy Robinson on May 23rd

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So it's just a campaign ad it's swelling music and there's traitors in Parliament and this family-friendly

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Event attacked by unruly Muslims who were led there by the police

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boy, man

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God, he should not even be he should not even be

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Physically allowed to say the words family-friendly. I'm against censorship and pro First Amendment

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But I also think we should take some words out people's mouth. It's there's no amendment in the UK

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Just mean in a general in a general sense like Alex. I'm all for free speech rights

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He's not allowed to say Martin Luther King jr. For ten years or Hugh. That's the rule hubris. Yeah

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Or Ozzie mandamus you can say that all I want

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So we get off the Tommy Robinson stuff and I just really think that it's it's it's woefully

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Transparent and it evokes and Alex exactly what it's supposed to evoke which is this idea of a race war. Yeah, or less

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Malanousian if you will it's

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It's bad. It's it's a real bad. Look

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So maybe when I was saying that his

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Apocalyptic stuff with the one hour is maybe a de-escalation. Go ahead and ignore. Okay. All right

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Okay, cool. I was I was already ignoring that but okay good. Yeah, it just goes a stray thought

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Anyway in this next clip we get to hear a little bit of Mark Dice

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He's got a special report that Alex plays twice during the show. Oh

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The mark so dice they played it twice. Yeah, so he's

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Apparently taken to making fun of Beto, which I don't know why he's sure fine beta is have fun

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I don't know how relevant he is in the primary race. Hopefully less and less as time goes on

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I already think he's down in the lower tier of candidates who are running at this point, right?

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But mark dice makes a meal out of making fun of him in this clip and then Alex says something really funny

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He's our hero running for president but he's pulling near zero with your hashtags combined

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I am captain planet Michael Brown didn't do nothing. Thanks support. Whoa, great Queens like Desmond is amazing

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Down with the patriarchy CNN most trusted name in news. No, but English amigo, but it was born for this. Yay

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I want to like save the environment and stuff and to do that. We gotta stop these cow farts. Yeah

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Yeah, stop the cow farts. Yeah, that was just the tip of the iceberg for this week's global warming circus

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However, New York City mayor bill de Blasio had organized a green New Deal event right outside of Trump Tower

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Except barely it was pouring rain

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And so he had to come inside and since he's such a terrible mayor

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People started shouting him down and didn't really go as well as he had planned

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Had the weather cooperated we would have been outside that was the original plan, but it's a public place and you know

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Why ladies and gentlemen?

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This may be one of mark dices. I think it is one of his best videos ever

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So I'm gonna play the rest of it coming up Wow the problem is the problem is the right is just too good at comedy

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Now did I they're just too good. That's damning mark dice with faint praise

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We cannot we cannot defeat them on the battlegrounds of comedy Dan. Whoo boy

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Taking out Beto and de Blasio. What are we gonna do? Oh

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Oh timely timely Beavis and butthead reference. I only have two pieces of information about this clip

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Then I looked into and I dug deep on these this first one

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I just listened to the clip that mark dice played bad idea the person who complains to de Blasio

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Is saying is this a good place to get your message out because it's Trump Tower. They're not mad at him for being a bad

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Mayor, yeah, they're mad that the event is inside Trump Tower. That's hilarious. So it doesn't really work for his argument

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No, cuz I'm video ever and then the other thing that I looked into is mark dice is 41 fucking years old. That is

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Embarrassing really? Yeah. No, that's embarrassing behavior for no one year old to be engaging in

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Terrible impressions. Yeah. Oh, man. Anyways, happy birthday to 40 year old Matt druffky friend of the show

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But he's not making videos like that. No, I know

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He's that's why I had to thank him. Yeah, he's way better much more dignified than like dice

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Holy shit. I was like you gotta if that would be bad if I saw like Caitlin Bennett making it it would be embarrassed

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Yeah, yeah, I would I would say anyone over 16 that anyone over 16

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Yeah, that kind of behavior is I would look down on I suppose anyone

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A under 16 knowing a beavis and butthead reference would be I think that might improve my estimation of them possibly

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Yeah, I I just mean more stylistic. I know less specific references. Absolutely terrible

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so in this next clip Alex lays out what I would describe as his

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Climate change conspiracy. He sort of he spells out a little bit of it. Uh-huh. That's all about carbon tax

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Sure, sure. Sure. Sure government overreach. Yeah, yeah, etc. And then he has a source that he uses as a reference

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It's like like a little you know specific real-world example. Oh boy. This is not gonna go. Well, it's not I mean, it's not necessarily

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Offensive off the bat, but it's it doesn't work for him

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But he knows that no one listening knows so it flies

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But do you see the total hysteria?

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Global warming is gonna cause the third world to collapse and they're all gonna come here then

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the global is put in economic systems on record meant to collapse things and then open the borders up and build refugee centers and then

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tell you

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it's because everybody's underwater and no one can grow crops and

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Everyone's dead and the world's ending in 12 years unless you do

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exactly what de Blasio and

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AOC and Beto say it's all

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Coordinated and countries like Spain that actually implemented the same Green Deal a decade ago

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They now have 50% unemployment and people under 30 something like 25% unemployment in general. The country has fallen apart

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It's been destroyed. This is an economic missile

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To destroy economies to take them over

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So Alex knows that his audience doesn't know anything about Spanish employment rate

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yeah, and he chose a really bad time to try and make this argument because

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Why Dan on January 29th, 2019 the AP reported that Spain's unemployment rate currently sits at its lowest rate in a decade

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Dropping about twelve point five percent since 2013. That's weird. What happened?

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Well, the unemployment rate is still at fourteen point four five percent, which isn't a good-looking number

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But whenever Alex discusses statistics, it's crucially important to consider the context

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One issue is that Spain's economy has historically been characterized by high unemployment even in the best of times

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When their economy was doing its best in 2007 best in recent times

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Unemployment was still at eight percent, which is high for countries in the similar circumstances

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Yeah, I mean your your best bet with America is often like three to five percent

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Yeah, that's what is recommended by the Fed thirteen percent of Spain's employment is in the construction and housing industry

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So the 2008 housing bubble was a huge blow that still hasn't been recovered from nearly a decade later

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30% of the housing that's constructed in the EU is in Spain. Like it's it's a very large industry in

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Spain Jesus. Yeah people have criticized or you know discussed the idea that their

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Economy was largely dependent on that industry a little bit too much depend possibly

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Yeah, so it's also worth noting that Spain is a country with some of the best protections for employees in the world

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Until 2012 it was the law that if you fired a permanent employee you had to pay them 45 days of employment

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To pay them 45 days worth of wages for every year. They worked for you

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Naturally, this made businesses look for ways to get around having to treat employees like valuable people so they could find a loophole

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Which they did by hiring people as temps who don't qualify for the protections

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the permanent employees do they got around this law an estimate from al-payee says that

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25% of the workforce is made up of these temporary employees who are not included as employed in official statistics

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so at any given point in time though, the unemployment rate is like 14 or 15 percent a

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10% of that 14 or 15 percent is constantly cycling a maybe not that much but yes

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Yes, I yeah a considerable amount are not considered in the statistics because of their temporary status

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Yeah, the percentage is even higher among the youth as you might expect which explains why the youth unemployment rate is substantially higher

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From just visually look nobody. Nobody likes paying young people to do anything at that point

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93 out of every hundred job contracts signed were temp jobs

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Back when this article came out. That's not good. This is why the Spanish unemployment rate appears to be so high under ideal conditions

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It's already and always pretty much consistently higher than you might expect

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But now the number is inflated by putting workers into abusive middle grounds. It's like what we see here with the gig economy

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Yeah, it's like if the country was uber

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Yeah

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and on a personal level I can attest that I was a temp at Groupon for like two years before I complained enough about how

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They were exploiting me that I got hired as an actual employee

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So it's not like this shit isn't being done by anyone who can get away with it

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Obviously there are other factors to consider but these are a couple of the really big ones that Alex is conveniently not bringing up when

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He brings up these claims because if he did they would undercut the idea that the globalists implemented green technologies

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Yeah, there's a plan to take over the economy and destroy the country because that's not true. That isn't what happened

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It just is a way that he can interpret

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Statistics. Yeah that are even outdated

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Yeah

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But he can interpret these statistics in such a way as to make his argument that it has something to do with Spain introducing

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Yeah green stuff and that's just not true. I don't interpret is almost too bad like obfuscate

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Fantasy. Yeah. Yeah statistical fanfiction. Yeah, so we have one last clip here and

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It's interesting because on the one hand it ends in a plug. So there's that. All right spoiler alert always

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but it also

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Seems to be there's two things that are going on. Yeah, one is Alex is arguing that

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Volcanoes are great for plants true. Sure. He might be making a bigger deal out of it than he needs to possible

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Second thing he's doing is he seems to be making an argument that places like Venezuela and Africa

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Should be based on natural resources

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I they should be the countries that are the best and the highest and the reason that they're not is because they have

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inferior cultures

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so

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My okay, could we start and then stay with the first it would be nice and then pretend the second part

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Let's just talk about volcanoes Dan. I want some Pompeii talk

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So Mike down for this because you know, you had experience or how he's making this argument. All right, it very much is

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based in a position and a belief that there is relative value of cultures and

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Central American South American African cultures were intrinsically inferior to

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European white cultures, right? I don't

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know hmm, right hmm Venezuela in northern South America have

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Soils that are the best in the world

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They have incredible wildlife incredible fish incredible timber they have way more resources

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Than the average area of the United States it's joke level

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But just like Africa because of the corruption and the governments and the systems they have and the cultures

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They can't get it together. Africa has so many resources

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Sub-saharan particularly

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Every resource you can imagine ever has got it. It's it's the only continent that has everything

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Everything everything

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The u.s. Has a lot of dinosaur bones some reason so is China

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Africa doesn't have a lot of dinosaur bones though, but it's got a lot of gold lithium everything else you can imagine

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It's got everything every rare earth mineral every gym

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Farmland volcanic soil everything unique. What do you think Venezuela has?

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volcanic soil

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Why do you think?

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We sell coffee

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From southern Mexico and the Guatemalan border. There's volcanoes. They grow on the sides of volcanoes

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Some of them are active volcanoes. Well, I think Greece has such good food

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volcanic soil

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Why do the areas of Italy have such good soil

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volcanoes

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Why do you think the best coffee in the world comes from places? You can get really expensive Hawaiian coffee

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That's excellent as well. It's grown on the side of volcanoes

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They've got everything we don't have coffee from the continental u.s.

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Because we don't have the soil to grow it. You can grow it. It just doesn't taste good

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Our it ours is from southern Mexico, I think it's one of the best coffee out there and this is kind of a plug

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well, I'm talking about a story but

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Think about this

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That is a weird

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losing the thread

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that

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That's indicative of how his brain works. That's really troubling just from a like staying on point

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standpoint I

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Resist

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Just just like for no for no like positive reason just like just like out of crotchety

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Misdgenerational ideas, I resist me mifying things

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Sure, but god damn it if that wasn't some galaxy brain level shit right there

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Uh-huh

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That was a man being like I see it all laid out in front of me and none of you you guys are all playing

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On a completely different chessboard. I know it all it's volcanic soil. Well Mount st. Helens is in America

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No, it's not. Okay. We can't grow things on man st. Helens because it erupts

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Unlike every other volcano. He said that some of the ones in and why you're active volcanoes

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They grow coffee. Oh, yeah, but they're just cuz they're active doesn't mean they erupt active means like they go out

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Sometimes they have a nice dinner

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Yeah, yeah, I go to a club I mean on the one hand

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I'm not going to deny that volcanic soil is very fertile and good soil

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But I am going to suggest that Alex got distracted by the thought of volcanic soil

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Yeah, the middle of what was gearing up to be a very

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virulently racist bullshit well, and it did seem to ignore the tradition of colonialism and

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I don't know why Africa hasn't gotten its shit together, especially sub-saharan

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Africa it really seems to take

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one element out of the equation

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and that's convenient but

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I beyond it. It just belies it incredibly like I

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Mean, there's no other word for it. It's a fucking hugely racist worldview

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And I mean undeniably if he's saying that all these places have all these resources. Yeah, because they're cultures

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They can't get their shit together

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Wow

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that's that's the like

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That's such that white view of like a coming to the coming to Native America

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It's coming to North America and just being like these savages. All they do is lay about and enjoy themselves

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How dare they couldn't they be exploiting the land?

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Well, that's such that bullshit and and that's why there's like when you hear a clip like that where he's talking about these

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other places like Africa being

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You know, they're mineral rich and resource rich, but they can't get their shit together because of the cultures

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That's why there's a nefarious element to when he's talking about Africa for the Africa. Yeah, this is it

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You don't mean for sure. No, I don't mean that you mean I want Africa you want you

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I want all of Africa's resources and I want all of you people elsewhere. Yeah, it's

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It's a load of bullshit, but I think do he's had that's so fucked up. See so when I said

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When I told you that I don't think that this episode is good or very interesting

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It's because like a lot of these things are just kind of more explicit

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Instances of things that we've already heard from him, right? He's always had a sort of revelation II streak to him

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Yeah, we heard him say the one-hour thing on a past episode, right? It's cool more clearly talking about it

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Yeah, and more clearly saying that we are in the end times

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We've already heard him say in the past that Muslims are incompatible with his version of what he wants in society

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Yeah, but he's laying it out pretty hard here, right? We've heard him

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Sort of turn tail on his his ideas about martial law being bad even we've heard that before but he's now being

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so bootlickery and so enthusiastic about Trump doing that with the

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Insurrection Act and yeah, although it really is just what we see is ah

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Ah, okay. All right. What we see is an episode of a television show it that is preamble for an action episode

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You know what? I mean like this? Yeah. Yeah, this is a bottle episode

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No, not a bottle episode, but it's that episode of rising action

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Okay, sometimes that's kind of unsatisfying because that isn't really a climax to it, right?

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There is just the building of and making tensions worse

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I think that's what you see in Alex right in this stretch of time from the 17th to the 20th

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I it's it's it's in service of a climax that he hopes is coming

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and it worries me what that could be but well, it's a one of the things that I've

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Repeated over and over again is one of the reasons that I find Alex to be a figure worth talking about it

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All is because he is that weak link of right-wing propaganda that says the quiet part too loud

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Now he's saying the loud part way too loud, you know

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I think now he's saying the board of learned the quiet part into the law

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Yeah, he's turned the quiet part into the lab successfully done that alchemy. So, uh, let's let's wrap this up. I don't know

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fully if there's a lesson to be learned from this episode other than

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The present sucks and fuck Tommy Robinson if you see him

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Milkshake that boy. Yep

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But we'll be back on Friday for another episode but until then we have a website we do it's knowledge fight calm down

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We're also on Twitter. We are you're at knowledge underscore fight or our show. Is that another gender score fight?

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And I am at go to bed Jordan, right? We're also on Facebook. We are at Facebook. We are also on the i-2 Ned's

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As well as other

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Podcastual applications. I had a beard and hair in my mouth. Yes, you can also find us there

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I had to go silent for a second. Oh, let's see. Whoa boy. Did you pick the wrong episode for somebody?

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I don't know

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What do you got uh, I mean we didn't talk about it really but Alex I mentioned that he talks about John Ronson

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That's true. John Ronson hasn't killed anybody 100% the rest of these folks are not not looking good

Unknown Speaker (02:02:30.779)

No in terms of what they may or may not have done not

Unknown Speaker (02:02:34.020)

John Ronson in the clear not a murderer, but someone who probably technically has killed somebody. That's Alex Jones

Unknown Speaker (02:02:40.779)

Andy in Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

Unknown Speaker (02:02:42.779)

Oh Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you