Transcript/62: August 19-26, 2015

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Alex Jones (00:00:00.000)

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.

Dan (00:00:07.000)

Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm George. We are a couple of dudes who like to sit around drink novelty beverages and have long winded conversations about Alex Jones.

Jordan (00:00:16.000)

And the reason that we do that is because you know a lot about Alex Jones. That's true. And the reason I'm here is because I don't know anything about conversely,

Dan (00:00:23.000)

you know a lot about novelty beverages.

Jordan (00:00:26.000)

I do. And I don't know anything what happened about novelty badges. But you forgot last week. You didn't have time to get them this week. Do you know what that means? Dan? It's punishment time

Dan (00:00:35.000)

pretending that this is a weekly show.

Jordan (00:00:38.000)

We are oh yeah, that's a good point. Dude, whatever. I don't know when or where is time on knowledge. But yeah, anyways, it's time to punish you with azul coconut juice.

Dan (00:00:49.000)

This is out of New Jersey, the home of the coconut. Yep. As I told you before the show, we should take a picture of this. Because it looks like jism it is. I mean, not really. But it the the pieces are a little bigger. The coconut pieces are bigger than most sperms.

Jordan (00:01:06.000)

We'll be tweeting a picture of this out on our on the knowledge via Twitter. Dan takes the first sip, and

Dan (00:01:14.000)

no, ma'am. That's no good that the face is not good. It's gross. It's to it's to kind of milky. The coconut meat that's in it is too soft. You know what? I actually don't mind it. Great. You got two bottles. I'm

Jordan (00:01:30.000)

not gonna drink two bottles. Frankly, if I make it through half of one. I'm gonna be shocked. But I don't mind it.

Dan (00:01:35.000)

Okay, well, all right. You don't have to drink all you know, it's something I don't mind. What are you not mine? I don't mind our new donator. What's up out there, Andrew?

Alex Jones (00:01:43.000)

I'm a policy wonk.

Dan (00:01:45.000)

Thank you for joining the team.

Jordan (00:01:46.000)

Hi, Andrew, welcome to the policy won't fold. And if

Dan (00:01:49.000)

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Jordan (00:02:08.000)

Yes, thank you very much.

Dan (00:02:09.000)

You know, there's a lot of things that Sometimes life hits you hard. And even if you have a full time job, you end up having to go to the doctor three times in a week, right? And have to buy a suit for a friend's wedding and stuff like that. Ooh, and you know, that little bit that we make from donations makes a huge difference in terms of me being able to eat so thank you. Policy walks. Yeah,

Jordan (00:02:28.000)

policy walks are also now food walks. Yeah. survivalist walk

Dan (00:02:33.000)

Sure. That's right in our wheelhouse. Yeah, exactly. revivalist Yeah. So yeah, I just wanted to give that sort of statement as a big thank you. I really appreciate it. But you know, Jordan today what we're doing what are we doing today? We are going

Jordan (00:02:47.000)

we are going to do an episode of knowledge by Noah

Dan (00:02:49.000)

All right, that was it. Today we are doing another investigation into what happened in 2015 Oh sweet it's been a while since we had an investigation and there's we've been sidetracked by space and the current day and oh no cuz I mean last week day we'd been we'd been spaced track we were trapped in spite Lawson's but we were lost in space. We did that. The last is last

Jordan (00:03:11.000)

and carry Callahan's. Beautiful. Oh,

Dan (00:03:13.000)

those baby blues. Yeah. The last episode we did back in 2015. Alex Jones did a two hour interview with David Duke and got owned. Yeah, pretty much and

Jordan (00:03:24.000)

bought and then sold by the kk k

Dan (00:03:27.000)

yeah, that was on August 18 of 2015. So our investigation will now pick up on August 19 2015. And we will go through to August 26 2015. Which I texted you about the other day? And specifically, yes, I told you it was one of the most upsetting episodes of this show that I've ever listened to.

Jordan (00:03:48.000)

Yeah, I know which is such a high bar to clear Well,

Dan (00:03:51.000)

it turns out there's a lot of stuff that happened in the summer of 2015 that maybe we don't remember happened in such close succession with each other right? Let's just take as

Jordan (00:04:01.000)

we were because we were a little bit distracted by something larger going on let's

Dan (00:04:05.000)

let's just tease this there's another high profile murder that happens and Alex Jones his coverage of it is less than tacky. Less than tacky, not even tech full

Jordan (00:04:18.000)

tacky. Below tell we do the Malaysian plane again.

Dan (00:04:21.000)

We can't Oh, we can do it. Start the show off with a fun out of context drop.

Alex Jones (00:04:26.000)

I'm gonna be honest, I'm actually gay. dating a man named Rachel Maddow. This is never gonna end this. You're gonna take that out of context. And

Jordan (00:04:41.000)

that's yeah, there we go. I was like, This is you. This is terrible. He's not having fun. And then he said take it out of context. Now I know I did this. Yeah, of

Dan (00:04:49.000)

course. Perfect. Also, I

Jordan (00:04:50.000)

think perfect. I

Dan (00:04:51.000)

don't think that we've ever played an instance of him talking about Rachel Maddow being a man. Yes. And he does it all the time. So I wanted to be sure we were able to slip in a nice An example of that to just sort of showcase his idiocy. What uh, yeah, why

Jordan (00:05:05.000)

do you why on this? Why be a dick to Rachel Maddow? What? Just like,

Dan (00:05:11.000)

oh, on that episode, he ends up saying that she's a man and he's gay for her like, I would say 20 times. Yeah, that sounds about right. But that was the best one ever. Does he deliver plenty of fake laughs going on? Oh, so many. Yeah. But he does predict the future that they're gonna take it out of context. And he was talking about a podcast that wouldn't exist for another year and pretty amazing predictive powers

Jordan (00:05:33.000)

will make every dream of yours come true. Alex at least is in regard to taking the things that you say and laughing at you.

Dan (00:05:40.000)

I would definitely like to sort of fulfill his they're coming for me narrative. I mean, I would love to be the ones who are nipping at his heels.

Jordan (00:05:49.000)

Right. I would also love to crash the economy.

Dan (00:05:55.000)

Fucking why not? Why not? So we start on August 19. And we will start with some nice country fried bigotry. Oh, this is Alex Jones talking about Frank Marshall Davis being Barack Obama's dad. And oh, yeah, I

Jordan (00:06:13.000)

remember that. I remember that one. Yeah. And he's the he's the guy who's

Dan (00:06:17.000)

communist pornographer? Yeah, exactly. lived in Hawaii. And I want to say that I don't care about what the reality is. I'll take Barack Obama at his word about who has seemed like a big deal to me. Also, if it is the truth, that is that is Frank Marshall Davis. I don't really give a shit about that either. Right? That's not a bit like weird.

Jordan (00:06:39.000)

Well, Rory Scovilles bit is perfect, where he's talking about that. And he's like, Wait a second. Are you saying that the first black president also wasn't born here? What the shit? Are you kidding me? Like he just came out and revealed that that's the craziest awesome thing that's ever happened right? You'd have to give it to him. You gotta be like Yeah, dude, you did it. You know how hard it is to become president crazy you know how hard it is not to be a legal citizen and live here your entire life not very difficult put those two together and add black president crazy and now degree of difficulty is insanely high. And now

Dan (00:07:17.000)

that we're on the other end of it and his presidency is over. I don't see what game was being played by this 40 year long con a Frank Marshall Davis being his dad. Yeah, I have no fucking idea. They

Jordan (00:07:29.000)

were like what we really need is a centrist position. We're gonna need this centrist position in the White House. 40 years from now

Dan (00:07:36.000)

a guy who inspires liberals but still commits war crimes. Although we're Corporation

Jordan (00:07:40.000)

then we could go and say maybe false flag by Trump. Interesting. How else could trump become president? If we didn't rile up all the racists?

Dan (00:07:50.000)

No, totally. But that's the other thing that I wanted to talk about. Is that Alex Jones is premise is that Frank Marshall Davis is Barack Obama's dad. Okay. And the whole Kenya thing was cooked up by the Obama camp to trick Ah, he wants to trick people off the scent of the Frank Marshall Davis line.

Jordan (00:08:13.000)

What is why? How many different layers of bullshit do we have to split?

Dan (00:08:18.000)

I don't know. I don't know. But the thing that's fascinating to me about that is that Alex Jones is acknowledging that he got duped by some fake ploy that was utilizing only racism, like the fake story of Kenya, right. Kenyan birth certificate, right like that is fueled solely by racism. Yeah. And this group, these globalists, they knew that they could get Alex Jones to jump on board. Yeah. And all of these people if they just use racism, from Frank Marshall Davis,

Jordan (00:08:50.000)

all you have to do, right. You know what you might as well at that point, say that actually Obama is Frank Marshall Davis is dead. And also a time traveler. Why not? Because exactly, he went, he went, he traveled through time with him. We're onto something. There we go. Now we're getting to a grand unified field theory of Alex Jones, and we're just adding in Kerry Callahan.

Dan (00:09:11.000)

So here is the clip from August 19. There he is. I want you to keep track of his phrasing. It strikes me as very racist. His

Alex Jones (00:09:20.000)

father, the communist The Economist, his fake father was incredibly black African, handsome, black African man. But you're just super black. Obama looks nothing like him. Not the bone structure, not the eyes. Frank Marshall Davis. That's your daddy.

Dan (00:09:39.000)

That's That's what I was getting at right there at the Uber Black. No, the that's yo daddy. Yeah. Alex Jones talking like that is not germane to his normal verbiage.

Jordan (00:09:51.000)

Also, do they still not get that Obama is a mixed race man? Do they still have no idea how that's a possibility? Like, sigh up, I like I like, how can how do you? And that's the other thing that races were doing when Obama was running was they were like, what? Why do they say he's half black? You know, he's half white. Why don't you say he's a half white president? How do you these people are so fucking stupid.

Dan (00:10:17.000)

I mean, that is just the racial version of half full half empty to a racist.

Jordan (00:10:22.000)

No, I mean, it's it the obvious reason is why is because if you are area are, if you are at all black people treat you as black. That's the That's why you say that? Well, I mean,

Dan (00:10:33.000)

it has its roots in all those like racial definition laws. Yeah. 18 1900s, early 1900s, late 1800s where people were, remember it might have been even earlier than that. I apologize. My dates are wrong, but when they make strict rules about courtrooms. Yeah,

Jordan (00:10:48.000)

if you're a quarter African that's a different story. You're you know, yeah, you can't you can't be

Dan (00:10:55.000)

oh, there's a there's a rich history of trying to classify people and it's always to protect whiteness. Yeah, that's always what the game is. Right? So

Jordan (00:11:06.000)

have fun on somebody had to.

Dan (00:11:07.000)

We'll have fun continuing that trend, Alex, because it's certainly productive to our future.

Jordan (00:11:13.000)

I'm glad that 150 years later.

Dan (00:11:17.000)

Fuck yeah. So, you know, we have some problems with racism in the world. And we are sad about it. And we try to recognize it wherever we can. Even in our own selves, I think we, but Alex would like us to know, something far more important, and that is that it's really the globalist who did this right. Well, of course, and it's an emergency naturally. And here we go. Here's his thoughts on it.

Alex Jones (00:11:44.000)

It'd be like if an asteroid was coming to destroy the Earth, what humanity come together to put the technology we need together and the resources to go up there and remove the asteroid. Either put rockets on it and get it out of the way or blow it up. Destroy it. Because basically, metaphorically, that's what we're facing. And that's why I don't want to fight with the Metro La Raza people. I don't want to fight with the white nationalist David Duke. I don't want to fight with the Nation of Islam. I don't want to fight with the Catholics and the Jews. And it's just stupid. RESOURCE WARS all of them. tribalism is a great way to get people to go your way, but it's going to destroy us in the end. And the globalist have totally betrayed the people that follow them. The globalist sold the idea of working together and not being racist, to try to build this system. And it was always there to just to make it even worse. And that's why it's evil.

Jordan (00:12:48.000)

Doesn't trash why?

Alex Jones (00:12:51.000)

It's out of control. That's why I have such a big problem with people that are trying to talk to you about this, and they just go oh, you're a conspiracy theorist about all this. Yeah, that

Dan (00:13:05.000)

does suck. There's one way to avoid that reaction from people and that is don't spout crazy bullshit that, like you said, doesn't track Yeah, that sentence doesn't make sense.

Jordan (00:13:14.000)

I mean, just just like, if that's why, and then it like all the stuff he said, and then said, that's why I don't do that's why this is frustrating. That's why this is evil. Like, no, you can't have that in a sense. Well, he are. I mean,

Dan (00:13:30.000)

his argument is that globalists are trying to trick people into being racially accepting. But the real game is getting everyone mad at each other. And that's why it's evil. Yeah, but

Jordan (00:13:40.000)

he didn't. He didn't use correct grammar. No, he didn't very frustrated and

Dan (00:13:44.000)

spell things out. Right. And he doesn't prove that any of this stuff

Jordan (00:13:48.000)

in the way that Alex Jones is a real Nazi. I am a grammar Nazi.

Dan (00:13:53.000)

Fair enough. So on this episode, too, he's talking to Hey,

Jordan (00:13:57.000)

dangling participles. He hates dangling Jews do not

Dan (00:14:01.000)

end a sentence in a preposition. I want to talk to the drains with you. So this episode is also talking a whole bunch about Hillary and her server issue that's popping up. Of course, he just believes every single rumor about it. And if

Jordan (00:14:17.000)

it's negative about Hillary, it is going to be on the show.

Dan (00:14:21.000)

It's kind of boring. He also plays a clip of her in a speech talking about how she got on Snapchat. For her campaign. Okay, and she makes a joke that this Snapchats great. Everything just disappears on its own. It's like, I would have advised her

Jordan (00:14:36.000)

not to say that that's a pretty good bit in hindsight, yeah. During the campaign, not a good bet.

Dan (00:14:43.000)

Well, it had we the way things would shake out if I were like, I don't know, Podesta. Hillary, good bit. Yeah, but at the same time, the reality is that she didn't really do anything majorly illegal. She He did nothing, especially with the servers, right? That was not something that was any different than past Secretaries of State have done in some capacity or another

Jordan (00:15:09.000)

and has it's come out the same shit that she did. Pretty much the entire GOP has done worse versions and

Dan (00:15:16.000)

many people in the Trump administration have done varying degrees of it with like Rex Tillerson having fake pseudonym email address and stuff like that. But be that as it may and treason what you've also done treason. Yeah, but be that as it may, what she's doing is trolling. Yeah, she's trolling people who hate her, but

Jordan (00:15:36.000)

then she did a good job at it. But again, that's a pretty good bit,

Dan (00:15:39.000)

but at the same time, like I think that liberals per se, maybe maybe it's not fair to blanket this thing with liberals. But she didn't realize the response that the right and the alt right would have to being trolled like that. Oh, they

Jordan (00:15:57.000)

can't handle it. No, they're really there's such bullying so moments the moment you the moment you push back against bullies, they begin to cry like little girls right.

Dan (00:16:05.000)

And the trolling on the right most of it has become such a white noise. Yeah, it was like, guys just shut the fuck up. Yeah, exactly. Or you just block people on Twitter and you know you move on with your life. The response that people on the right have to being trolled is violent. Yeah. And you see it and Alex you see like the fuck this woman she is. She is a literal demon. She's out there. She's up there bragging about things disappearing and she's walking around why are

Jordan (00:16:33.000)

there no conservative comedians? Because they don't understand jokes. Fuck you. Like she made a good joke. And they were like, they're she's she's admitting it.

Dan (00:16:43.000)

You've clearly never seen Dennis Miller on the O'Reilly Oh, yeah. Well, he's hilarious. Sure.

Jordan (00:16:48.000)

I bet. I bet

Dan (00:16:51.000)

if you have free like 15 minutes and you want to have a great time, go check out the clips from the majority report where Sam cedar and Andy Kindler break down Dennis Miller's appearances. That's fantastic O'Reilly Factor. That's

Jordan (00:17:03.000)

fantastic. It's

Dan (00:17:04.000)

so funny. But anyway, moving along. On this August 19. Episode, also, Alex brings back my main man, the body. Jesse Ventura. Excellent. And since we're past the point where he's bullshitting about his court case, we're not doing we're not doing the lawsuit anymore. Yeah, that that narrative is passed. Okay. And now Jesse is just coming on to talk sense. And Alex can't really handle it. Okay. They talk a little bit about Trump. And Jesse Ventura, his position is fuck Trump. No. Oh, it's interesting. He's like, I don't agree with the things he's saying at all. But I like that him and Bernie are shaking things up in terms of wrestling power away from the two party system. Right, which I can agree with philosophically had we've known at that point, the consequences. I would, yeah, I would taper it a little. Yeah. But I agree. I don't think that it's

Jordan (00:17:56.000)

rather than resting. control away from the two party system, they only consolidated it more around lunatics in

Dan (00:18:04.000)

a very, very scary way. Yeah. But at that point, I kind of see where he's coming from. And it's a very sensible position to have that, you know, these two candidates on the right and the left, are mixing it up. Right. And he makes some good points about that. But then they get into some immigration issues. And Jesse Ventura proposes, I would describe as a thought experiment that Alex thinks is a literal suggestion, and it's a little weird. Well, you

Alex Jones (00:18:32.000)

are a lot better than Bernie Sanders, and I trust you more than Trump. The reason Trump Is Having such success is he is exposing that a lot of the illegals that are coming in just like Americans fleeing justice to Mexico, folks from Latin America are fleeing justice here. Even CNN admits 1000s of Chinese women sometimes 10,000 a week, come in on a visa for tourism, have their baby and have it all paid for and then their kids a US shoe medicine. And Chinese newspapers advertised come to America, get everything for free. Now, I agree the immigrants aren't the bad people. Overall, there are a lot of good ones, while the people coming here to do that are being leeches and the politicians that allow those laws to be in place are and so are you ever going to see the perspective a little more like Trump and I do about the fairness issue of these borders?

Jesse Ventura (00:19:24.000)

Then the first thing that you should do that Alex? You wouldn't Donald should get together and lead the charge to take down the Statue of Liberty. Nice take it down

Jordan (00:19:35.000)

way to do it.

Alex Jones (00:19:36.000)

Jessie that's kind of a stop statement. What

Jesse Ventura (00:19:38.000)

welcomes these people to the country. It says Give us your poor give us your down tribe, but

Alex Jones (00:19:44.000)

they didn't get welfare before and they had to wait at Ellis Island for three months to make sure

Jesse Ventura (00:19:47.000)

that wait a minute, Alex. Every immigrant immigrant group in America has gone through the same thing. Be at the Italians be at the Irish they've ever had happened. They all went through the same thing. Nobody wanted them here. Everybody wanted them kicked out all they're coming here. They're taking a lot of

Alex Jones (00:20:09.000)

that totally one exaggerate a lot of that Tollywood exaggerated.

Jesse Ventura (00:20:14.000)

But take down the Statue of Liberty, take it down. Well, I

Alex Jones (00:20:18.000)

mean, it isn't a cold symbol from France, maybe they should take it back.

Jesse Ventura (00:20:21.000)

Well, then, then we should take that symbol down and

Alex Jones (00:20:25.000)

we should melt it down and sell the scrap metal important.

Dan (00:20:30.000)

So what Alex doesn't grasp is the Jesse Ventura is suggesting this as a rhetorical way to say the turning away immigrants because of their poor or something like that is a refutation of our values as a society. Yes. And Alex thinks it's like,

Jordan (00:20:45.000)

maybe it isn't a cult symbol, right.

Dan (00:20:48.000)

And then the other thing is Alex saying that immigrants experience is that that's Hollywood. Yeah, fuck you. Alec.

Jordan (00:20:55.000)

One thing I don't understand. Have you ever read a newspaper from any point in our history? Yeah. Like the the editorials every time like when the Irish came over, you can go back and read editorials of like, these people are gonna destroy America. And they're not even real people that they come from us. They come from a Catholic country where they're poor. They can't even feed themselves. Why do we have to feed them

Dan (00:21:20.000)

there have these violent skirmishes with each other? They're just gonna bring it

Jordan (00:21:23.000)

over here. Yeah, they're gonna drain our resources. Oh, it's gonna be

Dan (00:21:27.000)

terrible. It's such a boring. Yeah, it's also similar. But what I love is that Alex is saying that these immigrant things are all like, ah, that's Hollywood. Meanwhile, all he does is cite movie to make his argument that's predictive programming. Right? All this up Hollywood tells the truth will never do it. It's hidden in lies. As such, what do you what? Where is the line?

Jordan (00:21:49.000)

There is no line between guns. You know what, we brought that up? Well, you know, we should do melt down the Statue of Liberty gun gun, they turned it into a giant gun, or just give the Statue of Liberty a gun. None of that. So instead of the Tory, instead of the torch, we rebuild the arm. It faces up. It's got a gun in it. And every fourth of July, it shoots into the air every

Dan (00:22:13.000)

time an immigrant comes in and shoots off.

Jordan (00:22:18.000)

Like a counter at a bar. Absolutely. One in one out guys one in one out.

Dan (00:22:24.000)

Also, I think that's a great feminist proclamation. You know, it's a woman with a gun. And what's more feminist than that. Making an Alex Jones statement. Yeah,

Jordan (00:22:32.000)

I mean, Rachel Maddow?

Dan (00:22:35.000)

Yeah, but I'm glad you brought up the idea of guns. Because this next clip, Alex Jones discusses his feelings about immigration. And I didn't realize that a lot of his fears about immigration is not about it's not really about you know, them committing violent acts against people. He uses that to gin up his base a bit scare people. Yeah, like every time there's some story about an immigrant killing somebody he's like, it's not really about that. In this next clip, he sort of spells out what the end game that he foresees of immigrants coming in is, it actually took me it made me pause for a moment.

Alex Jones (00:23:20.000)

Okay. Clearly, there's a globalist industrial plan by the Republican leadership mainly and the Democrats to get cheap labor and to create political balkanization. Clearly immigrants to this nation, German immigrants were treated bad by the English immigrants, because the English immigrants treated those beneath them bad that's just classism and the Italians and the Irish and all the rest of it and and other immigrant groups, the Chinese were treated terribly. Probably a million Chinese died building the West. So I welcome all these hard working good people here. The problem is the socialists, the Ford Foundation admits it as a plan to bring in 50 60 million illegals from Latin America predominantly have them basically all vote socialist vote to take the guns and it's game over. And you incentivize, with paying for the babies making the kids citizens and all this, it's not fair. I can't go to Mexico, have a baby with my wife. And then we get to stay there and get welfare.

Dan (00:24:20.000)

I don't first of all, I don't think it's really a reasonable argument to say what other countries do in order to rationalize or talk about what we do what we should do. It's it's potato. No, it makes perfect sense. Makes perfect sense. potatoes and tomatoes is actually you know, worst way I could have phrased that.

Jordan (00:24:37.000)

Yeah, no good. No, that country who we think we're better than we should do everything they do. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Well, I

Dan (00:24:45.000)

mean, at least an Alex Jones is conception right. But there you saw that it's that these people are going to be they're going to come in, they're going to be lured in by goodies. Yeah, like socialist benefits. They'll take our guns away. Yeah. They always become a voting loc takes away our guns, everything goes back to guns. He just loves guns.

Jordan (00:25:06.000)

Can we just give them guns and then put them somewhere? Guess what?

Dan (00:25:09.000)

He has plenty of them.

Jordan (00:25:11.000)

Right. But I mean all of them like, let's Okay, so here's what we do. The first is that no one is trying to take guns. No one's trying to take guns. It's never happened. But here's what I here's what we do. Here's what we do. All right, we outlaw guns pretty much everywhere. Okay, but the American Southwest. Okay, everybody loves guns. Go to Texas, go to Arizona go to those places. Not least of which because guess what? Those are going to be even more deserts very soon. Yeah. So then what? They deny that it will be Yeah, well, of course. They will have any idea.

Dan (00:25:44.000)

Yeah, it's gorgeous. Mason's brilliant. Brilliant. Alex, you already live in Texas. It's basically a desert. I bet property taxes would be even cheaper out. Oh, yeah. You could set up a studio where you

Jordan (00:25:56.000)

would have to tie the gun every time you go to church. That's true. That's true. Yeah, that's just that's just the Bible 10%

Dan (00:26:01.000)

of a gun. Every time you go to church. I will give you the holster today priesthood preacher. I'm completely fascinated, though, by how all roads lead to guns. And Alex Jones is mine. Yeah. And that's something that's kind of gonna be a through line through today's episode. Because spoiler alert, he doesn't progress much in his opinion about Trump. This episode is gonna go up to August 26. And he doesn't really change at all. He's still in a position where he's like, I don't really trust him. You heard him back there. So I trust Jesse Ventura. I trust you way more. Right. He's still talking about loving Rand Paul and wishing Rand Paul would say bigger than Ray though. He's still there. It's not like the position hasn't evolved. I

Jordan (00:26:46.000)

love Rand Paul, but he doesn't hate the brown people enough. Yeah, he needs to

Dan (00:26:49.000)

be he needs to turn his dog whistle and do an air horn. Yeah. And I will fucking get on board with him.

Jordan (00:26:54.000)

What now this this whole thing is is like we keep getting close. And then it just pauses. Yeah. Like I got what what happened?

Dan (00:27:03.000)

We thought it was over. Yeah, we thought he'd made his pivot. Absolutely. And he hasn't really no, he's still I mean, granted, since that pivot, he stopped talking about Trump's mob ties. But at the same time, he's definitely not said at any point to the end of this episode. The 26 that were that he supports Trump. He hasn't said he endorses him. He's not. All he's saying is like, Hey, I love how hateful he is. Yeah. And he's apparently into guns. Even though in the past he has said that. I don't know. Trump has said he supports assault weapons mass. Yeah, he has in the past, which should be disqualifying for Alex, you would think? I don't know. It's very weird.

Jordan (00:27:43.000)

What it like, is there a race for you know, like, is it Oh, I love guns. But I also hate immigrants like, which is stronger? I don't like push comes to shove. I think you offer Alex Jones? A, you know, one to one.

Dan (00:27:58.000)

I think I think you need three options in there. I think you should add abortion in there. All right, because he has really weird feelings about abortion. Can

Jordan (00:28:05.000)

we add to the mystery box? Or can pick a door or you get what's in the mystery box? I love that. Everybody gets one.

Dan (00:28:15.000)

Oh, by the way, I've made huge progress and figuring out his Chimera narrative. Okay, but that'll be on the next step. Here's a nice teaser for next time. So on this episode, like I said, He's talking to Jesse Ventura. Here's Jesse Ventura, common hard at Alex and Alex doesn't get it. He can't handle it. Jesse Ventura is the shit. I disagree with some of the things he says right. But in a world of Alex Jones, Jesse Ventura is king.

Jordan (00:28:39.000)

Well, the the Statue of Liberty argument should have just shut Alex Jones down. Well, that is the perfect that's the only argument like that is who we are

Dan (00:28:49.000)

you heard like me? We I think we talked over it a tiny bit. But as soon as he says that, Alex is like three seconds of silence. Yeah. And then his response is add Hollywood. That's a stunt argument. Yeah, that's not really. No, that's that is the argument, the hypothetical argument, certainly no one's gonna tear down the statute, right. But you just Well, fuck, who

Jordan (00:29:09.000)

knows? At this point?

Dan (00:29:10.000)

Yeah, it's fair. Just it goes even further in this next clip, and it's great, but

Alex Jones (00:29:15.000)

I really think it's cheap shots. Get rid of the Statue of Liberty.

Jesse Ventura (00:29:18.000)

Well, to me, to me, get rid of the Statue of Liberty, put up the walls and we shouldn't let Canada be immune. If you're going to wall off Mexico, roll off Canada to be disastrous, because the the 911 hijackers allegedly came down from Canada and harmed us. So let's be fair. Let's put wolves on both sides. Keep out and we'll end immigration and all that stuff. And I hope people are prepared to watch their fruit quadruple, because it's those people that harvest our agriculture. There are slave labor that we have in the country, and it's going to end again I'm not I'm not for illegal entry into the country. But the point is, it's the people who have been in charge that have created this problem by the laws that they pass the programs that are out there. How should acidic a somebody who's not a citizen qualify for a government program? That shouldn't happen? That by the same token, you put up all these walls and stuff? Well, then that can keep you in poo. Yeah. Do we really want to be the United States of East Berlin? And have tanks at the border? And what what will happen if you climb over the wall is that you get shot? The death penalty? Or what will happen if I climb over it to go to Mexico? I'm

Alex Jones (00:30:45.000)

not saying we become Checkpoint Charlie. Yes. What I'm saying is, when these businesses hire illegals, they get in trouble.

Jesse Ventura (00:30:52.000)

Right, Alex, you said I could talk, Alex, we are behaving right now. If you read history, we're just like 1930s, Germany, we're looking to put blame on anyone but ourselves. Chickens are the easy people to blame. We blame them for all their causing all our welfare yet. What's his name, Scott Walker just gave the Milwaukee Bucks $250 million of welfare to build a new arena took it from the University of Wisconsin Madison education to do it. I am to perfectly fine for corporate welfare. But getting back to it again, if we're going to be that type of a country where we're going to put walls up and all that stuff. And then we have to be like the Spurlin because you're going to have to enforce it. And you're going to have to behave as such. And the end will tolerate nobody sneaking into the country and nobody's sneaking out.

Alex Jones (00:31:50.000)

Sure. And Jessie I am giving you fair time here. In fact more time than I'm getting to debate this I just wanted to interject What is your actual tears? Six and a half billion people Africa's population is going to 1.2 million the next decade Latin Americans is going close to a billion

Dan (00:32:03.000)

Alex says no argument yeah

Jordan (00:32:04.000)

that was that had that was a non response Jesse's killing it but also

Dan (00:32:08.000)

the thing that I think is really important and why I kept that last part in Alex is citing statistics verbatim that David Duke cited to him no shit those statistics about Africa's population growing in Latin America yeah, those are things that David Duke said to him wow the day before he is like this weird information sponge right it doesn't realize where information is coming to him from he's he's citing David Dukes white nationalist positions, right in an argument that really has nothing to do with what they're talking about. Of course, we're Jesse Ventura is dancing circles around him. Yeah, the reality is that you got to completely border off militarize the border, if that's what you want to do. Yeah. And at that point, you are becoming East Germany. Yeah, he's Berlin. Yeah. So

Jordan (00:32:57.000)

Well, we've already got Hitler might might as well kick it up a notch.

Dan (00:33:01.000)

Yeah, might as well. So I mean, that's great. I love it. There's a I found another clip that I want to play at some point of just Jesse Ventura taken fucking Alex Jones to the woodshed for like 20 minutes. Yeah. And he just, I want to I think I might just put a link up to it because it's so visual, watching Alex Jones defeated face where Jesse Ventura is just coming at him with facts are coming at him with like, oh, Alex, what you're saying doesn't make sense. That's so good. Jesse. Or Alex is just like, Oh my God, why do I have him on my show? Right? Yeah,

Jordan (00:33:32.000)

that's that's such a brutal thing for him is I love you, Jesse Ventura. I wish you wouldn't make me feel wrong.

Dan (00:33:40.000)

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Jordan (00:33:42.000)

He's crying like a little girl. Yeah,

Dan (00:33:44.000)

he's a cook. He's a little beta cock.

Jordan (00:33:47.000)

There's a there's no bigger beta cock than anybody who calls themselves an alpha leash.

Dan (00:33:53.000)

So Alex on this show also has an interview with Martin Luther King Jr's niece, who was involved. Alex

Jordan (00:34:01.000)

has an interview with Martin Luther King Junior's niece. Yes. And she's involved

Dan (00:34:05.000)

with some anti abortion campaigns. Okay, so she comes on for like, 10 minutes to talk about how great bortion is not great. Okay. And Alex tries to make the interview way more important than it is. And I don't think she she doesn't seem to have much awareness of who Yeah, I

Jordan (00:34:21.000)

don't think she has any idea what she just walked into. Yeah, so it's

Dan (00:34:24.000)

pretty inconsequential. But he does, you know, be like we got Martin Luther King Junior's nice coming up, right.

Jordan (00:34:30.000)

That's his see. I'm not a racist. Yeah, see?

Dan (00:34:34.000)

Absolutely. But he spends more time mad about fake stories from his own life course. And this is one of them about he had just gone to Europe, if you recall. Yep. Where he

Jordan (00:34:47.000)

vacation saw I saw the Greek stuff and was like globalists

Dan (00:34:51.000)

vacation videos with Rob do basically right and Buckley. And then so this is a story about how he got a tough Tim

Jordan (00:34:59.000)

Buckley. fourth

Dan (00:35:00.000)

wife, right, fifth, fifth, fifth life who stayed with Alex Jones. This is a story about how it was difficult for him getting back to the United States can't

Alex Jones (00:35:08.000)

make the films I can't launch the TV networks. I can't get all the other work done I need to do when I have anger issues, which is all the time and it's like flying back to the United States stopped a week and a half ago. I probably had maybe, maybe $1,000 worth of stuff. I bought my mom's some plates and some jewelry and my girls, some bubbles and cheap jewelry and a bunch of knickknacks in Rome. And I bought my god shop and I bought my dad some stuff and I bought cousins, some things and from friends getting you bought and I bought myself four or five shirts. Probably wasn't even 1000 and I'm on the airplane, I've forgotten to keep all the receipts to remember. So I fill out the customs form. And I just say 1500 Just to be completely safe. And say it's a higher number if they want to try to tax me or do some type of import thing, though it's not an import, it's my personal stuff. The lady goes 1500 That's 800 All this allowed that read the thing it didn't say that it was like 10,000 in money. You had to announce it. I said, Well, look, it's not really 1500 I just don't know how she was Will you put false info down? And I said no, I just didn't don't have the receipts and had been asleep on the airplane. I was landing and I just here are the bags. You know, if you want to look and see what the stuff is. Just what is it? And I go it's like you know, it's knickknacks had said said she like drops stuff from stone Haniwa from Rome. What Stonehenge

Jordan (00:36:51.000)

and I'm not saying what

Alex Jones (00:36:53.000)

Hillary Clinton runs Benghazi is lying about everything, takes money from dictators, you're here interrogated me, just fine. We're gonna search, you go to the back. And I said, fine. But don't be smiling on a power trip. I'm not scared of you sent me to the back whenever to do whatever you want to me. You live in this country to it's going to hell, all these illegals I see you just let straight through and ask them a question. Because you know who I am. I know you know who I am, don't you? She goes, Yeah, I know you are. And then the next guy comes over. He looks at my passport. He goes, Oh, Alex Jones, of course. And I said, Of course. Listen, I'm being interrogated, and implying I'm doing something wrong. I'm sick of it. You know, I don't have a criminal record. You know, I haven't done anything lately alone. Actually, you do, don't you? And that scene there. I'm actually getting mad again. I don't like the fact that I did that. So I pray about it. You name it. And I'm just trying to get to the point where I don't have this temper.

Jordan (00:37:49.000)

So you go to therapy. You said,

Alex Jones (00:37:53.000)

the injustice drives me crazy. And I don't like being discriminated against man. I was watching people that clearly weren't citizens. And were just coming in. Oh, you're so close. They were just rubber stamping them into the country.

Jordan (00:38:08.000)

What if they were not Masons? Oh, no, no, no. And then the

Alex Jones (00:38:10.000)

head manager comes back goes find out and they had me back in this back room. Fine. I'm not going to search you. I don't think you have any contraband. I go, I don't just I don't think you're importing things. I go, I'm not. He goes, You can go. You know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because I've come into the country before a bunch of them are listeners. And that's why I don't want to act like a jerk. I want to be charming. And not get angry and just joke with them and make them feel stupid. The ones that are bad. Wait, what? As long was on a power trip? Show that I can actually change their minds, not just be their enemy. That's probably not gonna work.

Jordan (00:38:50.000)

I doubt that.

Dan (00:38:51.000)

Here's why I don't believe any of this story. This is about a week after he got back from Europe. So he's done. Let's call it 25 hours of radio. So the first time he's brought it up, yeah. Great. It's up. It tells me this is a very embellished story. Maybe he got stopped and had to give ID or something like that. Maybe. So the lady be like, what? Stonehenge Yeah.

Jordan (00:39:16.000)

What do you also even in his lies, he's like, I was seeing people who clearly weren't citizens. Alex, what do those people have in common? They're Brown.

Dan (00:39:25.000)

Yeah, I mean, yeah, even in his fantasy scenario, he's a bigot. Yeah. And even in his fantasy scenario, he's acting like an asshole. Because if this lady was like, really like a, you know, what are you declaring? Yeah, stuff like that means like, Hillary Clinton runs Benghazi. This is a bad society.

Jordan (00:39:46.000)

Are you declaring

Dan (00:39:48.000)

I declare that Hillary Clinton is a witch?

Jordan (00:39:50.000)

We're gonna take down the Statue of Liberty.

Dan (00:39:53.000)

Tourists that it was a good idea. Definitely didn't misinterpret him.

Jordan (00:39:58.000)

I am smart enough. Definitely not quoting statistics that guy or David Duke gave me. Yeah. It's like, Have you said anything about the 14 words thing?

Dan (00:40:10.000)

No family as a Sarah Palin thing? Yeah, well, the term 17

Jordan (00:40:14.000)

The Trump thing. Well, but

Dan (00:40:15.000)

Trump didn't literally say the 14 words. I mean, there was overlap, certainly. But this strictly speaking, if you guys don't know what we're talking about there, the Neo Nazis have a code phrase that they use, and it's 14 words. Yeah. And it's basically I can't quote it from memory, because I'm not a neo Nazi.

Jordan (00:40:39.000)

It's yeah, if you could, that would make me very suspicious, Dan.

Dan (00:40:42.000)

It's like we have to protect the future for the offspring of our race. Yeah, that's basically the code of it. That's the the theme of it the secret handshake, and a lot of people have noticed that Donald Trump's speech in present day in 2017, that he gave when he was over in Poland, right, it was Poland. Yeah, it

Jordan (00:41:02.000)

was Poland. He, you know, the place where you, you know, want to be given a speech like that.

Dan (00:41:08.000)

Sure. Those people use screen door submarines. Oh, yeah. It was crazy. Guys know what you're saying? Yeah. So he gave a speech that a did evoke a lot of things about our people and the West, and protecting the future of the West and stuff like that elevates

Jordan (00:41:23.000)

all of which is code for White? It?

Dan (00:41:26.000)

Well, it isn't? It isn't it is because of the context that we know of Donald Trump. We know things that he's said in the past. And we can use that to inform what he's saying in the present. There's prior context, right? There's the fact that he spent like a year and a half, trying to push Obama is not a citizen narratives, things like that are not outside of the bubble of that speech. And so he gives this speech and Sarah Palin tweeted a link to a site called Young cons.com. Young Conservatives, and the what she put in the show, if you're a young conservative, kill yourself, what do you put what you put in the message was about Donald Trump said 14 words that will shock the the okay, but there is a possibility that that is auto generated text based on the young conservatives website. Because if you try and share that, that link on Facebook, apparently a message about the 14 words comes up as the auto generate. Gotcha. And so that might have been the case on Twitter. But even if it was, and Sarah Palin, she can't be oblivious of that. She's a white nationalist, there's, there's no doubt about it. Yeah, come on. I don't think that Alex has ever said anything about that. I don't know. I haven't heard it. And I didn't listen to Friday's episode. I'm not sure because that just maybe he did. Maybe he didn't. Yeah. And I even if he does, he's going to be dismissive. Yeah. I mean, he's not going to mention any time. Like, there's there's tons of neo Nazi code that slipping into popular consciousness without people realize, right? Like, whenever you see 88 posted somewhere, just know that that means Hail Hitler. Like that kind of thing. Yeah, I did not know that. Yeah, because h is the eighth letter of the alphabet. Ada is code that neo Nazi circles for Hail Hitler, right. 14. If you ever hear anyone mentioned 14 or 14 words, that's always reference, especially online.

Jordan (00:43:21.000)

So 188 a reference to Triple H the wrestler,

Dan (00:43:25.000)

it is the Cerebral Assassin. Gotcha. 88 888 is a Wrestlemania match between Hitler. It's actually Heinrich Himmler. Okay. Triple H. Gotcha. Cerebral. So

Jordan (00:43:39.000)

this is a celebrity deathmatch we've just set up. Right? Yeah,

Dan (00:43:42.000)

I don't know. I'll get back to you on Alex. But to close out the August 9 episode, or 90 from 2015, Alex has some thoughts about his own past abortions. And we always like to keep track of his weird feelings about those Yeah, especially considering his

Jordan (00:43:59.000)

ever changing stance on who paid for them whether or not he regrets them or all of this stuff. And

Dan (00:44:05.000)

his virulently misinformation or position on the Center for Medical progress videos, that are still coming out at this stretch in 2015.

Alex Jones (00:44:15.000)

And I just repent to God Almighty, that I didn't do enough to stop the abortions that I've been involved in plural. And then my heart and soul just says, that's all right. In the end, you know, you're gonna be tested and you're gonna pay for what you've done, hopefully, only in this life. I know God's got plans for me, I'll pay for it.

Dan (00:44:35.000)

So he just has forgiven himself and everything's good because my gut My gut tells me, you're good.

Jordan (00:44:40.000)

My heart says it's all right. Good. My heart says it's all right. You're good. That's some good Christianity right there.

Dan (00:44:46.000)

You're committed murder Alex based on your own fucking just you just apologize to God. You're good to go. And hey, Alex, if you're listening, I don't believe this. But you do. So you know what you just did? it'd be like, I don't know how many abortions you paid for. But in that clip, it's plural. So there's a bunch of them. Probably most likely, if you had sex with 150 women before you were 16. I imagine there's tons of dead babies in your past. Hey, the Center for Medical progress videos, those show the reality of abortion. So not only did you kill your children, Alex, what you did was you made them endure horrible medical testing, where they were born and aborted, alive and sliced up and sold. like meat. That's what you did to your kids. Alex and your ad. It's fine. I forgive myself.

Jordan (00:45:38.000)

It's hard says it's all right. No big deal. Dan, you got really intense there. Oh, cuz I think he's an idiot. I think so too. But you scare me a little bit.

Dan (00:45:45.000)

I'm sorry. I don't mean to scare you. I mean, I'm just, I'm just saying you got real well, I just I, I really resonate with terrible hypocrisy, like that just really fucking drives me nuts. The idea that you can because I experienced this so much. In my younger days in the church, the the sort of evangelical version of self apology, self forgiveness is so devastating, because there are bad people in the world. And when bad people get the idea, oh, I can just forgive myself. Yeah, it really gives them a pass in terms of being able to just do whatever you want. All you have to do is pray. I knew tons of people who had like, really violent tendencies, and they would get into fights that they initiated. And then afterwards, the church would be like, don't look, you just have to forgive yourself. Talk to God, don't worry about it. Next week. They're beating someone else. Yeah. And it's not a productive way to organize or integrate behavioral improvements. So like,

Jordan (00:46:41.000)

not least of which because if, because what that like that justifies everything they do, while at the same team at the same time, the evangelicals are harsh on anybody who isn't an evangelical Absolutely, to the point where if somebody who's not one of our church commits a crime, they're representative. Well, it's it always gets back to racism, you know, sure. Black people. They're all if they committed a crime, they're evil people. It's not it has nothing to do with God's forgiveness there. No. And so they will justify their own behavior to the point where it fuck it. Let's just all call ourselves evangelicals. And then they'll have to be like, shit. You tricked us. You got us on this one. We forgive you.

Dan (00:47:26.000)

I'm into it. Yeah, imagine that. Something I'm not into is how Alex Jones decides to start the show on August 20. Now, you're gonna need to put the mic down. Why? Because this is really bad. And it involves Paul Joseph Watson. Fuck. I know. I'm sorry. This is like really, really bad. But first,

Alex Jones (00:47:43.000)

Paul Watson reports on some of the giant distractions that are out there. As they weaponize the media and try to absolutely confused the population

Paul Joseph Watson (00:47:54.000)

is prominent Black Lives Matter activist and self help guru Shaun King, the next Rachel Dolezal. conservative news websites are abuzz with claims that King who says he is biracial is actually white and has been lying about his ethnicity all along. King claims he was terrorized at school for being mixed race by 1995. Police report identifies him as white. Police also dispute kings claimed that he was brutally beaten by rednecks in a racially motivated attack, which King allege was Kentucky's first hate crime record show the incident involves only one other person and that the injuries were minor.

Dan (00:48:33.000)

So Paul, Joseph Watson has cowardly hidden behind the idea that conservative outlets are discussing this, which is code for their racist articles on Breitbart and infowars.com. Yeah, alleging this. And Shaun King has gone on record on he did not need to do any of this. But he has very thoroughly laid out his family history. He's addressed this, he's black. This is a incredibly bigoted thing to suggest. And it is. It's not a good sign for your argument when your best tactic that you can come up with to refute it is to suggest that the person who is against you is lying about their race. That seems like a really bad position to come from.

Jordan (00:49:26.000)

Also, your evidence is a 1995. Police report from Kentucky from Kentucky Yeah. Where they listen to him as white. Yeah, that was it with that's your that's your defense. You didn't do any more digging. You didn't look it up. You didn't do fucking anything but you found one tiny little thing that you can hang your hat on. And then that justifies your entire bullshit racist argument. Shaun King is a good guy. Yeah, very much. He's a very good human being.

Dan (00:49:54.000)

Yeah. And this is unfortunate for Breitbart and for Paul Joseph Watson and for Alex Jones and Infowars as a whole, because one of his classmates, Shaun King, Kings classmates came out and actually gave an account on Facebook of what happened in the assault that John King was the victim of. And I'll just read it here, too. And I, I hate I hate to giving any sort of like, trigger warning. No, I mean, I hate I hate to discussion of anything that's kind of violent and stuff like that, because I'm not I feel like I'm exploiting a being exploitative, but at the same time I want, I want to draw a line between what's real and what Paul Joseph Watson is suggesting. Yeah, he's suggesting that the injuries were minor, and it was one person who jumped him. And here is the report from a gentleman by the name of che Gould. Unfortunately, it seems that several groups on the internet are spreading lies about an event that happened at my high school when I was a student there. This is a problem for me because they weren't not firsthand witnesses, nor are any of their sources. I however, was there and I saw it happen. I've been asked to post my memory of that day, which I'm happy to do. It involves another student at the time Shaun King. I was a senior in high school and it just walked out of the band room when I saw Shawn walking towards me in the hall. For my entire high school career. I cannot recall saying anything more than hello to him. However, this day, no exchange took place. Because before it could happen, Sean was quite literally ambushed by a large group of large people. He never saw what hit him. He never had a chance. I didn't stop to count how many attacked him. But the number was easily in the neighborhood of a dozen. There. They were both they were big white farm boys, all members of the FFA Future Farmers of America. Immediately a crowd formed while they stomped the life right out of Sean, who couldn't have weighed more than 100 pounds, if at all. I remember not being able to get close, certainly not close enough to interfere. The attackers had formed a circle around the debacle and what would not let anyone in. It stuck in my mind for years is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. It couldn't have lasted long. As soon as the chaos attracted the attention of two teachers it was over and the attackers definitely dispersed. There was blood all over the floor. I hung around in Mute horror, not believing what I just seen. I had had a fairly sheltered upbringing and it was my first brush with violence that had left an impression. So now, in 2015, various organizations on the internet have taken the stance that this incident never happened. This view seems to stem from one specific article making the observation that the police account and public records of this incident do not coincide with Sean's account. For example, the police report says there was only one attacker not a dozen. It also states that Sean's injuries were very minor. What the article does not discuss is the political and social climate of that place in time, and how these factors had an effect on the fallout from this incident. This is Versailles pronounced Versailles, Kentucky in 1995. I believe the population around that time was about 6000 or so. One of minority gets almost beaten to death at a small rural towns High School. It is every civic leaders nightmare in 1995 and for sale, it could have potentially made national headlines had the story gotten out, but unfortunately it did not. And no residents of Versailles Kentucky should be surprised. By this point in the reading you should have surmised that any investigating officer would have felt heavy, intense pressure from all sides. The last thing Woodford County High School wanted was for this story to be on the front page of the local paper. You don't have to interview school administrators to know that the city's elected leaders did not want this thing getting out because they wanted to keep their jobs and the local police needed to keep a tight lid on it so they would not look like jackasses. So Sean's injuries were downplayed to just a scratch on the police report. The Future Farmers of America guys had planned ahead for one of them to take the fall for all of them. The investigating officer was happy to put that detail in his reports. Nor was he eager to interview witnesses having never asked me a single question. When you read about incidents like these, it's very easy to imagine the details were left out memories are hazy things are made up. If you're having such reservations about this story, please understand that I have no agenda. I was not close with Sean in high school, and I have not spoken with him since I'm in no way related to his efforts to combat racism. Nor was I ever close with his attackers. I relate my memories of that day only so people will know what really happened. I was one of the few people that saw it with their own eyes. So fuck you Paul. Joseph Watson's

Jordan (00:54:20.000)

fucking christ

Dan (00:54:22.000)

fuck you Paul Joseph Watson i As if we need more evidence of his lazy fucking reporting I just

Jordan (00:54:28.000)

you know it is it is one of those things where all of this shit is happening concurrently? Yeah, it is happening all the time. The only like, I hate myself for it, but the only way I can really get through the day. And I think most of us do. This is just kind of like, well, it's not happening where I'm at. Right? Like this, this kind of shit. The how many how many times are police officers going to earn out fucking murder? How many times are murderers not going to be put in jail? For killing black people? Sure How many fucking times? Yeah, this should be something where we all as a fucking country wash over these people. Everybody fucking shows up. But it's like, there's this paralysis of Well, I have to do my job I have to go to work. It makes me feel so much like a fucking Nazi. Yeah, like it really makes me feel like, Oh, they're taking Jews away. Well, I still got a fucking job.

Dan (00:55:32.000)

Yeah, like not like a Nazi but a good citizen. Yeah, exactly like that. Yeah, absolutely. No, I, it's infuriating. Yeah,

Jordan (00:55:40.000)

I feel like that's, that's the problem. If I don't, like if I don't kind of filter that out. I have to face the fact that every day I am complicit in this shit, right? Like, every day, I am at fault.

Dan (00:55:55.000)

I mean, it does. It sucks. I can't travel to various places and help protest or anything. And we've seen the end result. A lot of these protests don't get shit. really accomplished. Now cops still end up walking after murdering

Jordan (00:56:09.000)

how many? Yeah, how many protests have there been? There have been every single time there's been a protest. And all we've done is March incrementally towards them being charged as opposed to the grand jury saying there's not enough evidence.

Dan (00:56:21.000)

And that's not to say that people shouldn't be protesting. No, it is to say that it? I don't know. There's no real solution.

Jordan (00:56:29.000)

I mean, it's it's, I can't afford to help other human beings. Yeah, like, just monetarily. Like I wanted. Whenever Ferguson happened. I wanted so bad to be there. Because that's, that's what I needed to do. That's what I needed to do. And if I had gone, I fucking wouldn't be able wouldn't have been able to make rent. Yeah, like, that's the kind of thing and I would I would love to, you know, I'm not good enough. I'm not a good enough person. No, because if it were, if it mattered as much as I think it does, why am I not for I don't know, man, I just, there's just this paralysis of what else can I do? In my circumstance? Because otherwise I am complicit. You know, like, all of this shit. It is. It is heartbreaking. Anyways, let's go back to that out of context job. Rachel had to do. Yeah. Oh, man. Remember the good times when we weren't thinking about how we're part of the issue?

Dan (00:57:32.000)

Yeah. Oh, but I mean, I on a on a, on a larger level. I don't think it gets us off the hook at all. But I think the fact that we're wrestled with these things, means that we're trying. I don't know,

Jordan (00:57:48.000)

I just I did it. Well, it will never be enough, though. No, that's the thing. Like what the only that's that's why we got into the Civil War. That was the first that was the whole reason fuck us tariffs. Okay, nevermind. Yeah. Well, why are my taxes going up in Illinois? Hmm. The legislature just overruled Bruce Rauner who should be fucking hit by a truck. Lot of truck hits. Oh, man. Uh, today's gonna be a very get hit by a truck heavy episode. Joseph Watson needs to get hit by already Oh, man, as we've been over as many as you can find. So I want it to be a cartoon where there's a just a convoy running over him.

Dan (00:58:27.000)

Let's let's move along. Let's get to greener pastures perhaps. So like I said, Alex doesn't talk too much about Trump in this span. But he does drop a couple of little nuggets that indicate awareness of things that he now would deny he was aware of. And in this next clip, Alex Jones, like in the current day, he likes to say that Trump is sacrificing his financial status in order to be president and make America great.

Unknown Speaker (00:58:53.000)

Yeah, that's just stupid. Yeah,

Dan (00:58:55.000)

it's just an idiot. Well, it's a lie. And this next clip from 2015 indicates that he knows it's a lie. Oh, really? Yeah.

Alex Jones (00:59:02.000)

$5 million. Last week, I turned down from one man. I said, I don't want your money. And I think that resonates with people. I really think it resonates with people. As if Donald Trump's interest won't become fabulously more rich if he gets to the presidency. Ah,

Jordan (00:59:20.000)

god dammit Alex. Yep.

Dan (00:59:22.000)

He's keenly aware of the fact that becoming president will be a financial huge victory, huge victory for him. So Alex, that argument that you made,

Jordan (00:59:29.000)

I mean, just the amount of money that we've paid to Trump's re to Trump's golf courses for him to play golf at his golf course.

Dan (00:59:37.000)

You know, it's something I've been sort of thinking about, like, did he golf this much before he was President?

Unknown Speaker (00:59:42.000)

That's a good question.

Dan (00:59:43.000)

Because if he did, what he How was he?

Jordan (00:59:46.000)

How can he afford that? Or can you run businesses?

Dan (00:59:48.000)

And the reason it's so expensive now is because

Jordan (00:59:54.000)

he's a fucking moron. Nobody. Nobody would actually let him run his own business. He launder He would go bankrupt. Yeah, six times.

Dan (01:00:03.000)

We've all I mean, we were all pretty clear on it at this point. He launders money for mobs. Yeah, that's basically that's basically his job. Yeah. So great. He puts his name on shit and launders money and now that he's president he is making a lot more money. Yeah. So unless money laundering perhaps or or maybe as kids are taken over doing a lot of that,

Jordan (01:00:23.000)

that's yeah, I guess that's true.

Dan (01:00:24.000)

Um, so this this the rest of this

Jordan (01:00:27.000)

is the second pollutants deck.

Dan (01:00:32.000)

So the rest of this episode is large. There's a lot of fear mongering in this episode. He has a really long interview with Dr. Group comes in wants to talk more about how his products are awesome.

Jordan (01:00:42.000)

And he didn't how he's saving the world from the sins of His Father. Yeah, absolutely.

Dan (01:00:45.000)

He is a hero. And they talk about how they're not fear mongers a bunch. While fear mongering. I'm gonna play some fear mongering clips. Okay, because Alex, like we said, when we started this investigation, Alex was saying that this summer was going to be like,

Jordan (01:01:03.000)

it's gonna financial collapse, coming, burning riot,

Dan (01:01:07.000)

Harry Dent. He is an economist who comes on the show and said, It's weeks away. Yeah, they're taking every single movement in the Chinese stock market to be like this. Is it common? Yeah. And now Alex, because the summer is now in, its, you know, it's in August now. He's now moved up Doom to September.

Alex Jones (01:01:26.000)

I'm not saying anything's gonna happen mega September. But I remember actually, a couple years ago, hearing the last Bloodmoon comes the middle of September, and then all hell breaks loose, and Jewish mysticism. And I'm like, Okay, I'm not pooling all that. And I'm not disrespect. And I didn't, you know, believe it. And I'm not saying is gonna happen now. But you go over all the things happening. The elites believe in this. Like the Romans used to go to war when Mars was in a certain aspect of vengeance or whatever, when they thought the stars were reading in the elites today, most presidents prime ministers, they operate on astrology and all this so they believe in it. Whether you and I believe in it or not. It's going on. And now it's all coming to a head in the real world. It's just weird that like two years ago, talk about the blood moons and September 2015 talking about the last Bloodmoon talk about the I'm just like, Okay, I'm gonna go take your Thorazine and then now it just looks really weird and the last six months last year everybody I talked to does have this sense of this ominous or this port this this portend

Dan (01:02:36.000)

there's a portent but also, I mean, he's saying I'm not saying that anything's gonna happen in September but everything is gonna happen

Jordan (01:02:45.000)

that's such a that's such a great little trick there Yeah, the the like, they believe this right? Like that kind of thing where herbalist believe shaman when of course they don't you do, Alex? Yeah, you're just hiding you're insane belief system behind. Hey, look, this fake group of people believe that. Yeah, these these imaginary people believe in this imaginary thing. So you have to take it seriously. And I'm not saying that I believe in this stuff. Even though I'm the one. I'm the only person telling you this is real.

Dan (01:03:18.000)

I categorically believe this. Yeah, exactly. Here's, here's what you do. If you're up against like, let's say a witch and you don't believe in witchcraft, right? You're doing a spell. Interesting. And then you move along? Yeah. Because otherwise, there's nothing there. Yeah, there's like, oh, yeah, you're gonna cast a spell on me. All right. Good luck with

Jordan (01:03:36.000)

that. Well, hey, I don't believe in witches. But you're a witch. And you believe in witches. Oh, she's so I have to take your magic. Seriously. I guess that's how that works. That's what he's saying. Basically, yeah. So stupid. That's fantastic. Yeah. Do you think we can like cowardly? It's so coward.

Dan (01:03:51.000)

It's the same thing that we see over and over again with his not wanting to own up to what he actually believes. Right? It's the regenerative med beds. The holographic med beds from Randy Kramer all over again. Yes, this I hide behind rhetorical devices. So I don't actually have to expose what I believe because if I did tell you that you'd make fun of me. Yeah, exactly. It's very dumb. So there's more stuff about Doom. And this was moons

Jordan (01:04:18.000)

Blood Moon Blood Moon Blood Moon White Moon, Alex. What moons

Dan (01:04:22.000)

Blood Moons Jewish mysticism blood moons.

Jordan (01:04:26.000)

So I'm throwing us matches that. Okay,

Dan (01:04:28.000)

this next clip is a discussion of what would happen if an EMP went off, which they're saying is probable. That sounds fun. If

Unknown Speaker (01:04:35.000)

you see cars all of a sudden dead on the road. You better just start getting outside of a big city as fast as you can because they after 24 hours the food starts to spoil. People still don't know what's going on. But you have about 72 hours after that all hell breaks loose. All hell breaks loose because there's no food. There's no water

Alex Jones (01:04:53.000)

in every study, unless they're jumbo Japanese. It's just a fact. People then start burning everything now. And then within 10 days, almost anyone will murder others within 15 days, almost universal cannibalism also

Unknown Speaker (01:05:09.000)

had the crossing. Now this has been this is actually NASA documents that say that there's, there's meteors that are going to be crossing in september two

Alex Jones (01:05:17.000)

are already entering a bunch of them. That's why there's so many. But

Unknown Speaker (01:05:20.000)

it's funny. It's not funny. But about six years ago, I was contacted by what was supposedly a top secret organization that was working that was put together by the government to try to find the best method to determine Meteor, a meteor shower,

Alex Jones (01:05:35.000)

that projects now admitted. That's right. But

Unknown Speaker (01:05:40.000)

I'll tell you about what happened with that project after the break. He doesn't.

Alex Jones (01:05:44.000)

Well, I don't wanna get anybody in trouble. But the point is, there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes.

Dan (01:05:49.000)

Okay, so first of all, cannibalism. That's hilarious. But secondly, yeah,

Jordan (01:05:52.000)

now do you understand what he just said? They're near universal cannibalism that human beings are only 15 days away from eating other people at any point at any point in time. Yes. If the power went out here, yeah, you and I are going to eat each other.

Dan (01:06:07.000)

Undoubtedly. That's just half a month. Even in fucking

Jordan (01:06:11.000)

zombie movies. People don't resort to cannibalism.

Dan (01:06:15.000)

It's 28 Days Later Yeah. But

Jordan (01:06:20.000)

yeah, that's that's yeah, why not even say that? Why not just throw 20 days later in there? He believes movies.

Dan (01:06:25.000)

Yeah. Predictive program. Yeah, come on. So the real thing is, we've discussed this in the past, but in real world scenarios where disasters strike, people don't attack each other. Generally, they work together the absolute opposite direction of human nature in emergencies often is to recognize the humanity and each other and try and help it's actually usually brings out the best in people. Absolutely. So and

Jordan (01:06:50.000)

while you go to even in the, in the Ukraine whenever, or in Crimea, whenever Putin was going whole hog and tearing down their power grid and doing all of that stuff, you can read the stories about how people develop develop their own black market smuggling to get food into people at a gym costs, who put together all these different systems in order to survive this and they fucking did it.

Dan (01:07:17.000)

Yeah, like real world situation. My dad when he was in Greece during the time when they cut off the withdrawals from bank exactly he because he was not Greek citizen, he was able to take out a bunch of money. And there were a bunch of other people who did that in order to help people who had money trapped in accounts. Yeah, it the examples are so numerous so people coming together also Alex a lot of people have generators.

Jordan (01:07:42.000)

Not in the city. He's not in the city. Get out of the city, the him pianos the city would be bad.

Dan (01:07:47.000)

Certainly, you would take down a lot of electricity sources and what have you, but there's a lot of people with crank generators and shit like that.

Jordan (01:07:53.000)

Who cares there and there's a backup power every week. There will be

Dan (01:07:57.000)

there'll be a lot of like really creative solutions to helping each other that would come out of it

Jordan (01:08:02.000)

and that's another one of those like, that's that's such a subtle little longer that subtle little like, Oh, get out of the city folk are the first to go down. You guys. us in the country. We're self sufficient.

Dan (01:08:14.000)

People in the city are trapped. Yeah.

Jordan (01:08:16.000)

Oh, exactly. You don't want to go to a city you're Oh, you're 15 days away from being eaten? Yeah, or eating or eating somebody.

Dan (01:08:22.000)

So also, let's take a break to really recognize the comedy of a supposedly secret organization suppose run by the government. Yeah, that is now been declassified, which hasn't it's there's nothing here. It's not real. Coming to Dr. Group, in order to get advice about deflecting meteors. Dr. Koop was a chiropractor.

Jordan (01:08:44.000)

He is a chiropractor. He is a prophet. He is a cutter with weird herbs. That's all why would they ask him about Meteor? How do you deflect against meteors? Obviously brain force selenium, obviously. Oh my god, what you do is you put deep earth iodine in the sky,

Dan (01:09:05.000)

right? Even if you had to put together a dirty dozen type of situation you need 12 guys, so

Jordan (01:09:10.000)

we're talking about Armageddon? That's what we're getting into. We're going full on are we getting together

Dan (01:09:13.000)

a team of roughnecks, right, right? Still don't need a chiropractor. It's not an essential skill.

Jordan (01:09:23.000)

We could use miners better than

Dan (01:09:25.000)

if we have a team that's 50 deep. I still don't need a chiropractor. But

Jordan (01:09:29.000)

what if somebody throws their backout down?

Dan (01:09:32.000)

subcontract chiropractor? You don't need to tell them about all the plans. You can hire freelance chiropractor. That's so stupid. And Alex knows that. Yeah, they know it's stupid. I mean, if you talk about it a little bit more everyone will know it's stupid. Like we don't want to get anyone to trouble Yeah, that's fucking self defense right there. That's

Unknown Speaker (01:09:54.000)

gorgeous. That's pathetic.

Dan (01:09:56.000)

So speaking of pathetic this next clip, Alex Jones kind of out What's that most of his ideas about the world are bullshit?

Alex Jones (01:10:04.000)

No, I could write a science fiction book where aliens run the planet. And this is all like a big test to to like create the super humans that are going to survive what comes out of this that the alternative prison planet that would make the prison planet from dune look like a heavenly place? Lucis

Dan (01:10:20.000)

Alex just basically talked about his own philosophy and his life beliefs in order to sort of reverse L Ron Hubbard is right. I could take this worldview that is kind of a religion to me and make it into a sci fi but what the fuck so which?

Jordan (01:10:38.000)

There were no prison planets on Dune? What is he talking about? gitI prime Baron Hart Conan's home planet, because Arachis wasn't a prison planet. That was a great. I mean, come on.

Dan (01:10:49.000)

Dude, talk. Let's meet up fucking sleep that long,

Jordan (01:10:53.000)

never not going to talk, dude. Fair enough.

Dan (01:10:56.000)

Then this podcast is done.

Jordan (01:11:00.000)

Is that where I'm gonna put my foot down hard like any dude talk.

Dan (01:11:04.000)

Alright, so that's the end of our coverage of August 20. If you want to check in with the other stuff that happened, David Knight did a special report about how the wall isn't going to work. So he's not even sold on Trump shit at this point. David Knight is a stalwart Trump supporter. Now. He also basically says that Trump's stance on immigrants isn't mean enough, which is crazy. Jesus, David knights and that. Also,

Jordan (01:11:32.000)

nobody hates America more than people who say they love America. Yeah. Nobody hates America. They really hate us. They hate

Dan (01:11:40.000)

America as an ideal. They love America as a place for whites. Yeah. So also Alex has an interview with this guy, so

Jordan (01:11:47.000)

you give them a prison planet?

Dan (01:11:48.000)

Yeah. Matt like the New Mexico? Yeah. So Alex also has an interview with a guy named Tosh Plumlee. Robert posh Plumlee, that's

Jordan (01:11:57.000)

a great name. It's pretty good. That's a great name.

Dan (01:12:00.000)

He's like a CIA whistleblower, whatever you a wants to talk about skiffs. The secured information areas minim secured controlled information. It's about Benghazi. Gotcha. It's a bunch of nonsense. But I have this question about Benghazi. And I don't know if this has ever been really handled by the right wing folk, push Benghazi narratives. They believe that Benghazi was the center of gun running operations to get guns to Syrian rebels to live what they believe Yeah, they believe there was like Stinger missiles being transported through there to terrorist organizations. That's why Alex believes that we are all Qaeda and ISIS, God, what have you through Benghazi and that dumb and that this was an attack to cover up stuff like that. And so that's sort of their belief about it. And the question that I have, is that, okay, they believe that Chris Stevens, the guy who got killed at Benghazi, the ambassador, they believe that he had discovered this stuff, and he was going to come out with it, and that's why they let him die. Okay. The question that I have is, if this is a massive globalist gunrunning operation, weapons dealing that's going through Benghazi, isn't that position, an incredibly important position to have, like a patsy in? Yeah, these positions are not like, accidentally given to somebody. These are like ambassadorships that are granted by the President, who at the time was Obama? No, he could put a minimum in there. Nope. So if like if you had

Jordan (01:13:47.000)

a crisis, a conscious Dan, conscience, bullshit crisis of conscience, bullshit, that doesn't work. Also, if you were if you are doing this massive gun running operation, why would you want to make that the most famous thing in the world as a cover up? That's a very bad cover up. It's

Dan (01:14:05.000)

pretty bad one. Yeah. Well, I mean, their argument is simple for that. It's like it blew up in their face. They didn't think it'd be this big topic or brush it under the surface.

Jordan (01:14:12.000)

What you could you just close it? I don't know. I just close it down.

Dan (01:14:17.000)

It doesn't make sense that the person in charge of that area wouldn't be someone who you have under pedophile blackmail, if Alex Jones's worldview that's right. If Alex Jones his worldview is totally correct. And the globalists use pedophilia accusations and react like real pedophilia, right in order to keep everyone in line. Chris Stevens or whoever was in his position would be someone who's

Jordan (01:14:41.000)

blackmail Yeah, why would you? Why would you kill him? If he came out with that stuff? You just be like, yeah, he fucks kids. Yeah. And instantly nobody would believe anything right.

Dan (01:14:50.000)

Or it would turn into a complete Zoo. Yeah. But yeah, it's just so dumb that they never deal with that. Like it's it's two pieces of their narrative. they coincide to invalidate each other. And there's like that. Just ignore that. Yeah,

Jordan (01:15:05.000)

they yatta yatta yatta blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You're just you're just a beta cock. You're not awake. You're not awake, Dan strew you're not awake to the fight that he was actually a secret patriot. Okay, he lied about he went along with all of this stuff. He

Dan (01:15:21.000)

fucked kids, but he didn't inhale. So he's not subject to blackmail in there. God dammit,

Jordan (01:15:29.000)

these people are so fucking stupid. They're not 10

Dan (01:15:32.000)

How did we lose? I don't know. They have better marketing.

Jordan (01:15:35.000)

We don't. Are we dumb? Are we secretly the dumbest people on the planet? No,

Dan (01:15:40.000)

what it is, is that smart people D deem this sort of world this alt right wing conspiracy theory world as beneath them. And they think it's so stupid that why would anyone pay attention to it? Right? Not realizing that all the while you don't pay attention to it. It builds momentum. Yeah, it gained steam false stories reinforce other false stories. And then eventually we're in the position we're in now. Right. So

Jordan (01:16:07.000)

they're a unified block. Yeah. Like we are absolutely not.

Dan (01:16:11.000)

Not even you and I know. Necessarily. I do. Yeah. So

Jordan (01:16:19.000)

in in one respect, I and Alex Jones agree against you, dad. That's not that is dude is a

Dan (01:16:25.000)

great book. He didn't say that. We don't know that for sure. So, Jordan, in the summer of 2015, you might have noticed that Alex Jones is taking a page out of the Howard Kramer school of life and he is having a summer. Shout out to boys. We have yourself

Jordan (01:16:46.000)

a sub.

Dan (01:16:48.000)

Alex has gone a lot. It seems during this stretch. He went to Europe. He's been on other weird vacations, right? And on the 21st through the 24th. He's out of pocket. He went to Canada to do some sort of a lecture with George Noory of Coast to Coast AM Wow. The two of them

Jordan (01:17:08.000)

met up. That's a solid double bill. Right.

Dan (01:17:10.000)

Totally, totally a lot of different kinds of crazy in that building. Yeah. So Alex was in Canada for that. And then he's very unspecific about what he did after that, because he doesn't just come back. That's over the weekend. But he doesn't come back until I believe Wednesday of the next week, which would be the 25th. He did do a report from the road that I heard that said he was in Chicago. I don't know what he was doing here. But it's very weird. He's on a lot of weird trips throughout the summer of 2015. Yeah, I don't care to speculate about what he's up to. But it's weird

Jordan (01:17:47.000)

cannibalism. Probably 15 days he came here for the Taste of Chicago and the taste was people

Dan (01:17:53.000)

was Polish people. Oh, yeah. The 23rd He was in Canada. He was in Chicago, not the 24th. So that's 15 days after the night. That's when he stopped eating. Oh,

Jordan (01:18:04.000)

shit. Dan, is that where that chunk of your leg once I knew this was all about

Dan (01:18:10.000)

her face? It's not really a scar from surgery. No, it's done got me two years ago. So

Jordan (01:18:17.000)

Alex, as we all know, if you get bit by Alex Jones, you slowly turned into him? Yeah,

Dan (01:18:22.000)

it's true. guys buy my colloidal beef. Um, no. That's not going anywhere. So Alex comes back and he goes on a long tangent on the 25th about how tired he gets from talking to fans. It's a little ungracious, that's he basically is explaining that talking to people is exhausting, right. But the reason it's exhausting is because he actually talks to them. Unlike these dingdong celebrities who just shake your hand and gladhands you and move you along. He wants to get to know every single person comes up to me. I'm so burdened by everyone liking me. Or he

Jordan (01:19:01.000)

realizes all of his listeners are fucking stupid,

Dan (01:19:03.000)

though. That is definitely true. That'd be it'd be incredibly exhausting to have all these people come up to you and pitch their conspiracy theories. Yeah, for a short period of time, Marty DeRosa or friend Marty at shows that we did he would sick people on me who'd start talking about conspiracies. And so like, he would just be like, Oh, you got to talk to that guy. Very nice. Point them over to me and that was exhausting. I'll tell you that for sure. People just coming up to me and being like, Hey, man, you want to

Unknown Speaker (01:19:30.000)

Yeah.

Dan (01:19:31.000)

Oh, I don't want to talk. Ah, so this is sort of a piece of that conversation but he gets into like the good stuff. Yeah, that comes also and this is yet again another installment in our ongoing series Alex tell stories that didn't happen. The hotel

Alex Jones (01:19:47.000)

staff

Jesse Ventura (01:19:49.000)

was like Fight Club.

Alex Jones (01:19:54.000)

Because a lot of people don't say their listeners just at the end they go. You don't need to check out I know you had two bottles out of the middle. The bar Mr. Jones liked the show, and it was a Chinese attractive Chinese, obvious immigrant. She barely spoke English. What? But but she liked he was wearing a mask. And she walked up the silk no need for you to check out Mr. Jones, by the way, I'm a listener. And then both the woman behind the counter behind her smiled at me. And I mean, it's like Fight Club.

Dan (01:20:19.000)

It's not like Fight Club.

Alex Jones (01:20:21.000)

And how was that, like, thanks for helping set up the TV, network connections and all the rest of it. About It. 75% of the time Fight Club works to our advantage and their fellow travelers who use the communist term but fellow travelers in liberty and freedom that 25% of the time though they're not fellow travelers,

Dan (01:20:40.000)

Alex Jones gets beat up 25% He's talking about the flight club aspect of like, these people in this secret group help each other out with stuff and you know, in their private lives, okay, like you work somewhere and another member of project chaos comes in and share I'll help you out. That sort of thing. Okay. The only real similarity between his life and Fight Club is that his followers are planning domestic terror. That's that's their goals. Yeah, different. You're right. They I guess they both hate banks. But doesn't hate bank. That story didn't happen.

Jordan (01:21:17.000)

It absolutely didn't happen. Obvious Chinese immigrants. Obvious Chinese immigrant lady who barely speaks English is like, you know that Alex Jones. I love his show.

Dan (01:21:30.000)

The tragedy of that is if she is listening, she's listening to learn English. And Alex's version of English is not good. No. So that that's just a nice little aside for us. A nice little story that didn't happen. Now Alex gets to this next

Jordan (01:21:45.000)

Alex Jones is English for immigrants class would not be an enjoyable class to

Dan (01:21:49.000)

take. Just teach yourself how to say I hate globalists. You're good. That's all you need to go. So Alex, on this next clip, this is delicious. Okay, when I told her I told you before the show that this is going to be very weird. This isn't part of that. This isn't part of okay, this is great. Okay, this is so dumb. But it's also like, Oh, I love this. He's talking about derivatives. And, boy,

Jordan (01:22:12.000)

we're already out there. It

Dan (01:22:13.000)

doesn't go anywhere you guys talking about? I don't even remember the context of how he's talking about it. But it gets into chivalry. And his thoughts about it are amazing. This might be another mic down, because it's hilarious. All right. This is this, Utah, they have that meme. This is the future that liberals want. This is the future that liberals want. This is the future that Alex Jones wants?

Alex Jones (01:22:38.000)

And the answer is no, get rid of it and get back to truly transparent free market systems that are so successful, and so wealth generating, they do create unbelievable opulence, and civilization, and spoiled rottenness. But if you remove the spoil rottenness, and bring back chivalry, to a free market, and that means if you want to fight a man, or you want to go out the street and shoot each other, it's legal to do so. I've studied history, we have to return total free market, but also chivalry. The gang thugs won't be acting tough in the streets anymore. Because if they mess with the family, you can demand satisfaction. Another leader has to come out on the street, whether you buy by shorter by gun, and I mean, you Oh, that's backward. No, that's not backward. That's what built civilization. That's why people were very, very polite. You go to places like Spain, or Italy, or just 150 years ago, you smart mouth, somebody they call you out the street. I mean, you think the American West was the only place where guys would go out in the street and shoot each other. That's what duels come from. That's where all of this originates from. Many of our founding fathers killed people in duels. But there was much lower overall motion were very, very respectful. Because if you were going to shoot your mouth off, you're going to have to make good on that check your mouth, can't write checks, it can't cash and there wasn't welfare, and there wasn't a society based on obsessing over language and all this garbage. What they do is they have a society where they remove responsibility. And then they replace it with political correctness is the new chivalry, anti chivalry all about pulling down the strong pulling down the honorable and having gangs of ninnies be able to engage whatever crime they want, but then you selectively can be shut down and persecuted by the pool.

Dan (01:24:37.000)

That last part didn't make any sense. But he wants to bring back duels he wants. He wants kings. He wants feudalism basically,

Jordan (01:24:44.000)

does he not get that those two things go hand in hand more or less free market? Yes. It creates incredible wealth and opulence for a very small percentage of people who own everything.

Dan (01:24:54.000)

Yep. And the rest of us have to do Yeah, it's serfdom. Yeah.

Jordan (01:24:59.000)

Like He would send it there's no welfare Yeah, cuz we're all fucking dying. Yeah, you idiot you're so how are you so stupid he wants dual? Yeah, he really just wants to be able to fight I think he's talking about wants to be able to fight for free

Dan (01:25:14.000)

I think he's talking about like chivalry in the Don Quixote sense.

Jordan (01:25:18.000)

Yeah even like, like slap somebody with a glove like that's what he's taught like a medieval

Dan (01:25:22.000)

code of chivalry not just being nice to lay me Yeah, exactly.

Unknown Speaker (01:25:27.000)

Yeah

Jordan (01:25:29.000)

that's crazy which you know what if it was if we could keep welfare fog and fine I'm good with it

Dan (01:25:37.000)

I'm not sure let's I will

Jordan (01:25:39.000)

I'm gonna here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna combine Alex Jones his dreams and the way to go which we're going to institute a fully socialist system where healthcare is paid for everyone has a universal basic income okay, but also you get to fight a duel if you want to fight a duel no big deal.

Dan (01:25:58.000)

Let me let me explain one of the problems with duel civilization. I can't think of any problems so far. If you're really good at pulling a gun. You're always right.

Jordan (01:26:08.000)

I don't I don't see how that's possible. Dan, it's are you saying that might makes right in these if it's

Dan (01:26:13.000)

not even might it's just like a trick you've learned? Yeah. Like it's if you're good at close up magic, you can be the king of the world. Basically, it's equivalent to that. Yeah. Like you could be one of the most hateful, awful people who goes around and abuses people. And like then once you've abused them, they're like, I demand satisfaction. Take it to the street. You're there draw you shoot them. Oh, you're right to abuse.

Jordan (01:26:37.000)

Yeah, does does he not? He doesn't realize that in all westerns, that is the system. Yeah, he Well, he does realize that he just wants to be the hero. Like he wants to be the Quickdraw. Yeah, he wants to be the roving gunman who goes from town to town saving people from the

Dan (01:26:55.000)

evil Yeah, that he's that he's not smart enough to make real arguments. And he does love guns. Yeah. So this is the solution. Let's mold society into a place where pulling out your gun really fast means you're right. Yeah, that's awesome.

Jordan (01:27:10.000)

That is that is really what he wants, isn't it? I mean, that's what all these gun people really want. They want the chance to use their guns all the time ever

Dan (01:27:17.000)

go to that. They're like we'll never get back there.

Unknown Speaker (01:27:20.000)

I

Jordan (01:27:21.000)

hope who the fuck knows this? At this point. It's Thunderdome. Let me god damned.

Dan (01:27:25.000)

I can't see you how we ever get back to that. So for me, that clip is hilarious. I love it.

Jordan (01:27:33.000)

Well, have you seen Firefly? I saw in one of the in one of the episodes. They go to a dueling plant. They go to a dueling planet. People still duel like prison planet. Yeah, he has to duel for you know stuff or whatever.

Dan (01:27:46.000)

Tell it to Frank Herbert. Alright, this next clip. Dead Dan. So dare you don't know is there ever really? You're right. He's in the tough demand. Everyone's immortal. And they're all here right now. And he's helping me

Jordan (01:27:59.000)

write my new book. Okay, it's probably

Dan (01:28:01.000)

going to probably gonna be fucking long as vision tuning. Yeah, but remind me to skip that one returned

Jordan (01:28:06.000)

to do.

Dan (01:28:09.000)

Fill your doom, doom and gloom.

Jordan (01:28:10.000)

You got doomed.

Dan (01:28:12.000)

All right, this next clip Jordan? Yes. This is one of Alex's classic moves. This is a clip where Alex explains that he's not a bigot and then says bigoted things. Of course. It's this is vintage Alex,

Jordan (01:28:26.000)

I'm not a racist. But

Alex Jones (01:28:29.000)

this is Sharia ish beyond North Korea level brainwashing, when all over the country now the official biggest leg, gay lesbian grip came out two weeks ago and shed ban the word mother, father, boy, girl,

Dan (01:28:44.000)

this is the purple penguins thing all over? Yeah, it's part of the same narrative. It's not the biggest LGBT organization. It is just an advocacy group that is making suggestions. They don't want to ban any words, they just want you to be more mindful, right when considering

Unknown Speaker (01:29:00.000)

the Lord. Think before you say something,

Dan (01:29:03.000)

it's almost like to me

Jordan (01:29:05.000)

it which is why Alex is so angry because that's not a thing he's capable of.

Dan (01:29:10.000)

But I also think that it's on par to me with people who would advocate that like, Hey, if you have a daughter, don't just buy her pink things automatically. If you have a son, don't buy blue things automatically. You know, like, try and consider the part of the, you know, gendering that comes from weird social norms that we have, yeah, allow the individual individuality of your child to develop as they see fit, right?

Jordan (01:29:36.000)

If you if you you know, you subscribe to the idea that gender is intrinsic. But at the same time, you're reinforcing it. Right. And if we make sure that it's in trend, and if it doesn't, yeah,

Dan (01:29:50.000)

exactly. Yeah. If we don't reinforce it, then the globalist Yeah,

Jordan (01:29:55.000)

exactly. It's very conflict that that idea that you can't like Gender is you're born with it, right? But you have to act like it to like, Why can't

Dan (01:30:08.000)

because there's stuff in the water. Okay, nevermind vaccines anyway, back to the estrogen,

Alex Jones (01:30:14.000)

all of it. We control language we rule and it's not that I dislike people I don't like even having to preface that it's that I dislike anybody that wants to put me in a cult and tell me how to talk and what to do and you're gonna teach my kids this and that every TV show I turn on now it's about transgendered and the dads, the dads are gay and bla bla bla. And it's just like, it's a total agenda. There's an article here today about Hollywood needs transgender actors, little experience required Reuters. Here's the headline wanted transgender actors for Hollywood little experience required as part of the admitted agenda to just put it everywhere and what's behind the agenda, not to accept some tiny minority why No, which which, which the elite are totally into, and and just totally controlled the dominant areas of New York, Milan, LA, these people are not being persecuted. Let me tell you, Milan, and now some elite fetish is being pushed as if it's the new national flag. This is cultural domination. Because if they can do this, they can get away with anything. And it reduces population.

Dan (01:31:34.000)

Oh, Alex. I don't I don't know. I mean, referring to people being trans as being part of an elite fetish is probably really insulting.

Jordan (01:31:45.000)

Let's probably well, I

Dan (01:31:46.000)

mean, like, let's say his gun thing is a fetish. It's a low class fetish. Yeah. That has more validity than Yeah, his argument.

Jordan (01:31:56.000)

I love that his his replacement for it's not about people accepting a minority. It's about population control, right? Which is fucking How do you go from one? How do you make that leap?

Dan (01:32:09.000)

You make the same it's easy for him. It's so that's true. It's it's just hey, look, I have these positions. I think people are weird, and I hate them. But I but look, there's more important things. Yeah. The globalists are doing shit. And we got a you know,

Jordan (01:32:26.000)

I, I the the idea of they're telling me how to talk is is very much like then don't go to school. Yeah, you can tell you're gonna don't go you're Yeah, don't learn anything. Don't ever learn a goddamn thing, right? Because that's what you're saying. You're saying that I refuse to learn any more things ever. Don't tell me how to talk. Don't Don't saddle me with your grammar. Don't grammar saddled me? The Well the good news is fucking grunt You goddamn idiot.

Dan (01:33:01.000)

Well, the good news is that Alex Jones is so incapable of like, integrating information into his brain, that no matter what, he's not going to learn anything for the rest of his life. That is true. Yeah, it's kind of a win win for him. Yeah.

Jordan (01:33:13.000)

Which again, one of his four ways to learn is not listen to

Dan (01:33:17.000)

others. So so Hey, Jordan, remember how we did that Mars episode I do. That was based on the fact that a guy named Robert David Steele came on Alex Jones's show and said that the elites have Mars basins that they're sending children to as slaves. Yep. And Alex, in the aftermath of that has gone on to suggest that Robert David Steele, it was controlled opposition, of course, and trying to set him up, because Alex is in the middle of exposing the Vatican for their cocaine fueled gay orgies, right, that are also not happening.

Jordan (01:33:48.000)

Or at least allegedly, at least, or at least not happening the way that it was reported.

Dan (01:33:53.000)

Well, his reporting is very much from a gossip magazine. But he's like, I was breaking this big news. And then Robert, David Steele comes on and distracts everybody with Mars colony talk, right? Is this intentional? Because everyone's saying that I believe that their Mars bases? Yeah. And there's no clip of me saying that there are Mars bases. Hey, Alex, I have a clip.

Jordan (01:34:15.000)

Because, of course,

Dan (01:34:17.000)

on August 25 2015, I have a clip where you say, literally, the elites are making Mars bases. So let's listen to that.

Alex Jones (01:34:26.000)

And you're like, what's that? Oh, that's the rich district. Then in the future, they'll just be flying up to their Elysium bases. That's a whole plan of Verner von Braun. Why don't you think that movie with Matt Damon figured all that out? I mean, this is real stuff. They're talking about Mars bases, undersea bases. They're already launching their own private ships bigger than major cruise liners that then dock in our cities. during emergencies. The elites are running to ships offshore.

Dan (01:34:56.000)

So the only argument that he can really make based on things he has said, we've just heard, right is timing based. The only thing he can say is like, the elites aren't doing that now they're planning on doing right, right. They're working on that Mars base. You know, it's in development. They're building it still. He believes it.

Jordan (01:35:15.000)

And that's a terrible idea for the elites because Don't they know if they get trapped out on the sea base, and they lose food 15 days away from eating

Dan (01:35:26.000)

each other localized wormholes my man

Jordan (01:35:28.000)

Oh, shit, you always forget, I always forget about the local the localized wormhole. So

Dan (01:35:32.000)

Alex likes to say that he doesn't believe in Mars bases. But

Jordan (01:35:38.000)

Dan, is somebody at the door. I think someone's at the door. Want to go get it? Yeah, I'll open it

Dan (01:35:42.000)

up. Hey, who's this guy? Who's this guy?

Unknown Speaker (01:35:47.000)

It's Alex.

Dan (01:35:48.000)

Hey, Alex, how you doing? What are we doing?

Jordan (01:35:52.000)

I think we've lost track of our own. All right now. I think it's I think it's whenever I started to do and fully work that I was like, I think I'm not cut out for this job. Long story short, Alex is busted Alex's boss. He does believe we can't even do our own bet.

Dan (01:36:06.000)

I was preparing to play the role of Randy Kramer's super soldier.

Jordan (01:36:10.000)

I you know what, we got to work on our improv training together because I had

Dan (01:36:15.000)

no idea where you would go with Should we take a level one class? No, okay, let's not I'd rather die. Yes. And Alex, in this next clip, like he loves to make this argument that when bad things happen, it's globalists. And when I predict bad things are gonna happen, and they don't happen. It's because patriots stopped it. Right. And here's an example of that. That is wild.

Alex Jones (01:36:38.000)

They were thinking about pulling off more Oklahoma cities folks and blaming the liberty movement, but we exposed them we back them off. Now they're back and it's like 10 times worse than it was.

Dan (01:36:50.000)

So they're going to be late

Jordan (01:36:52.000)

or wait so they're claiming to be okay sees but they stopped him. And now they're back. Well,

Dan (01:36:59.000)

back to they're both really stop them at all. Nobody exposed that they were going to be more and because of that they're like oh shit, Alex is onto us better culottes for 15 years, or something like that? I don't know. It's it's the way a schizophrenic integrates coincidence into his brain. Yeah, that's true. It's like, oh, I'm I'm like, okay, an isolated incident where a really crazy right wing guy who believes that taxation is war against the people don't want to have you goes off his rocker and blows up a government building. Right happens? You kind of believe a lot of the same things he believes. And because you don't want to have to deal with that. Yeah. And realize that that's kind of a logical consequence of your beliefs. Yeah. You say, Oh, no, he was a patsy. He's been set up. Elohim city was full of Southern Poverty Law Center people, they're planning to do more, right. And the reality is that he was just a crazy person who went and did it. And because of that, there aren't any more things that happen. But because you yell about how there are more things that are going to happen when they don't happen. You're like that You're welcome. Thank God, I stopped. You're welcome. liberty movement.

Jordan (01:38:00.000)

Man. It's crazy. His He's perfect. His entrenchment is like, there's no like for Okay, so let's say he built a wall. Yeah. His his belief system is a wall. There. It's a wall made entirely out of holes. Yeah. So there is no wall. No, and yet it is impenetrable.

Dan (01:38:23.000)

It's amazing. That's a great metaphor. And as much as it's incomprehensible, exactly as is most of Alex Jones his belief system, except we've kind of made some good sense of it, that the brain damage. So, on this episode on the 25th, Alex has a couple of really interesting things that happen. One is that Jeb Bush has started complaining about Chinese women coming over and having anchor babies,

Jordan (01:38:50.000)

you know, where I he said that before, I have no idea what the fuck he's talking about. There

Dan (01:38:55.000)

are so is that a thing? There are some Chinese companies that advertise being able to help you come over here to have a baby. But it's something that is kind of real, but it's not nearly the numbers that Alex is talking about. Right? And they mean, it's just a way that these businesses charge exorbitant amounts of money to desperate people in China. Yeah, that come over here. I don't think it's nearly that's a that's a pretty good scam. Alex says the 10,000 a month are coming. And if that's the case, I think he might even said 10,000 a week. Whatever it is, the number is absurd. In the same way that he on one of these episodes, he was talking about how the Isle of Lesbos in Greece, that they have a population of 150,000 immigrants on it. The population of the island of Lesbos was 86,000. Yeah, so it's not there aren't that many immigrants,

Jordan (01:39:44.000)

although his statistics are well, let me tell you this. I just heard that it's actually 120 million illegal immigrants voted in the last election. 120,000 million no 120 million don't go crazy Dan. So To

Dan (01:40:00.000)

the point, though, that's important. All this stuff is really overly inflated statistics and making a bigger issue out of things that aren't really a problem. But it's fascinating because Jeb Bush has started to say the same things that Alex is saying. Alex is screaming about this Chinese anchor baby situation. Jeb Bush is mirroring his rhetoric, and Alex still hates him.

Jordan (01:40:20.000)

How does Yeah, it's weird.

Dan (01:40:22.000)

Donald Trump says a bunch of stuff that Alex Jones likes. And he's like, this guy is telling the truth right now, Jeb Bush does. And he's like, man, he's just trying to trick global Liberty people. He I mean, he hates Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton so much with good reason. Yeah, I know that Alex doesn't he doesn't get on board. I can entertain arguments for both. It just makes him more mad that Rand Paul isn't also saying these things. Right. So you're starting to see a weird thing where he's starting to resent Rand Paul. And it's not it's not over yet, but I think that that might be where he loses his mind. Right. Like once he flips on Rand Paul, that's where like that that's big.

Jordan (01:40:59.000)

I think the problem is growing. Probably Rand Paul is, by all accounts, an actual libertarian. Yeah. And Alex Jones believes himself to be a libertarian, right? And is actually just a lunatic. Yes. So when the when what he sees as like this, what would you call it like apotheosis of libertarianism and government is not agreeing with him, rather than maybe think, Oh, well, I could be wrong. That's simply not a possibility. Well,

Dan (01:41:34.000)

I think that you're on to part of it. Because Rand Paul, even his libertarianism is harshly cruel, and it's awful. Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

Jordan (01:41:42.000)

No, well, that's what libertarian is.

Dan (01:41:44.000)

Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, we could we, I don't want to get into it. Yeah, we can dive into how stupid a lot of that taxation is violence type shit is, but that's kind of like anarcho capitalist beliefs. We'll get into that actual it's truly free market requires a king, we'll get into that a tiny bit a little down the road on this episode. I think that one of the other things is that Rand Paul knows God damn well, that if he starts spouting stuff off of its lies, that are just complete lies, like things that Alex Jones says, right? He's going to be taken to the woodshed over it, because he is a public figure that isn't elected office or and if he starts spouting bullshit statistics about false narratives, right? He's going to pay for it and probably get voted out of office. Well, he

Jordan (01:42:29.000)

thinks that because at the time, we all thought that right, but turns out,

Dan (01:42:34.000)

that is not the case at all. Trump had nothing to worry about, about just adopting all of this rhetoric. Spit, yeah, he had nothing to lose, he doesn't have a Senate seat to lose or anything like that. He doesn't have his reputation to lose. Right. So that's been Yeah, they can go in whole hog on that shit. Whereas Rand Paul knows there's consequences to my actions, right. And even if I do agree with Alex Jones on stuff, I have a public face to keep up. I think there might be a little bit of that, but that also might be giving him too much credit. Yeah. So or maybe he just

Jordan (01:43:04.000)

isn't giant racist.

Dan (01:43:06.000)

It's possible. So all helpful. Also, Alex Jones has Joe Biggs in studio, and they have an interview with a guy named Representative Matt Shea. They talk about how there's a sheriff in Spokane, Washington who came up on the last episode, who's an asshole, and he's afraid of Alex Jones, and the Southern Poverty Law Center sucks. And all these people, you know, these globalists are arming our police to the teeth, because they're going to try and take out gun owners and you know, blah, blah, blah. It's

Jordan (01:43:36.000)

it's even though most of his listeners are police and military, it's a load

Dan (01:43:40.000)

of shit. But at the same time, there's one interesting dichotomy that I caught. I didn't take a clip of it. But it's fascinating to me. The way in this interview, they talk about anti abortion protesters and homeschool protest movements and stuff like that. It's all very white people that they're talking about. And they're like, the way they stood up to the police and stood their ground is so admirable and like, oh, this stuff Wow,

Jordan (01:44:08.000)

wow. And wow, yeah. Can't

Jordan (01:44:12.000)

just just take a tiny little step forward, just a little step forward, and

Jordan (01:44:18.000)

then you're not Oh, well, it's if you're white, it's heroic. If you're black, you should be killed.

Dan (01:44:24.000)

Well, there's that one level, but then on another level, there's the right versus left pieces of it. And they argue that like the right they protest, ah, the left it's riots course. And what they don't take into account is all the incidents of left wing protests being fuckin pepper sprayed by cops being infiltrated by right wing agitators or even police. Yeah, agitators. There there is constant attacks on left wing protesters that turned them violent and turn them into right Right, even the incidence of the Free Speech demonstrations at Berkeley, that is even not a good example of this. The Antifa stuff isn't even intrinsically violent. Right. So

Jordan (01:45:12.000)

well the thing, I mean, that my my first thought is like, why is it always the left? And then it's obvious why it's the left because the left is always the opposition to Alex. No to the government. Like, why is it that left wing protesters are always the ones who are being murdered, who are being, you know, destroyed, who are being fucking pepper sprayed to death, I would argue is

Dan (01:45:39.000)

because they present the realist threat to the system as it were. Exactly. And that's always the left wing, they represent movements that seek to end war they seek to get money out of politics, right? And very, like threatening to the existential nature of our

Jordan (01:45:57.000)

and that's and that's the very basis of you know, liberal versus conservative conservative is don't change a goddamn thing. I like it the way it is. Well,

Dan (01:46:07.000)

certainly nowadays, especially the conservative, even libertarian, at least libertarian in its current incarnation, right seems to be working to prop up and defend even if there is anti war sentiment they certainly don't seem all that thrilled about they have no interest in sapping any of that and the corporate state I don't really think that we see a lot of that but again, I don't want to tar everybody with that brush. You know, that identifies as libertarian because there are there are some reasonably sound people right

Jordan (01:46:37.000)

well, apparently Jesse The Body Ventura is is pretty much right on it in certain respects. Yeah.

Dan (01:46:45.000)

I think that there is a defensible position for a lot of libertarian ideas. Some not so much, but be that as it may, Alex also predicts that the Civil War is coming and the Patriots are the greatest army that have ever been collected and your stupid globalist if you want to try and fuck with them. Great. You wait,

Jordan (01:47:02.000)

wait the the guys like the Bundys yet part of the greatest greatest

Dan (01:47:06.000)

army?

Alex Jones (01:47:08.000)

Cool. Yeah, leash.

Jordan (01:47:10.000)

I would not want to be in that army.

Dan (01:47:12.000)

Alex predicts that Joe Biden is going to run for president because Obama is setting up Hillary using the Department of Justice. Yep. It's gonna take her down in a double cross. Right. And Joe Biden is going to become president.

Jordan (01:47:24.000)

He's also going to hit her with a chair, you know, aluminum chair to make sure that the it's everybody knows the storyline coming up. Yep.

Dan (01:47:33.000)

That'll be for the next cycle. You know? Yeah.

Jordan (01:47:36.000)

A feud going right. Right. Right. And so by we're on the tag team, and then he Oh, man, rough through a

Dan (01:47:44.000)

barbershop window. Exactly. So Alex, is like Joe Biden is going to be switched in and that'll continue the Obama regime. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Very boring. Right. So Gerald Cilenti comes in to do an interview. You want to predict what it's about? No, buy gold? Oh, about economic collapse? Who

Jordan (01:48:04.000)

would have guessed? He's with Cilenti? Yeah,

Dan (01:48:07.000)

he tells them that he's bullish on gold. No shit. You

Jordan (01:48:10.000)

are? Plenty ever not been bullish on gold? Never. Why would I listen, I'm telling you for the 10,000 consecutive time. I'm very bullish on gold.

Dan (01:48:22.000)

He's, I mean, he's a trends researcher is a trend predictor. And he's way off in terms of how big he thought gold was going to be. So we're going to add $2,000 an ounce and the 25th here with this next clip, and you may recognize this exact story from the secret of 2017 video.

Alex Jones (01:48:41.000)

And I sit here as a father of three and I should hear as somebody who goes to eat at Luby's which is just a kind of a blue collar working class.

Jordan (01:48:52.000)

Oh, yeah. I remember based

Alex Jones (01:48:55.000)

became a national chain of cafeterias been on there since I was about two years old like to take the kids there, and never in my life. Have I gone to Luby's but also other restaurants and seen people talking about old ladies you name it. Not being able to order the food they want and getting little bitty plates and watching old ladies get water instead of iced tea seems they can't pay the dollar for the tea it's the sand you can tell people don't have money all the family I know a lot of which are upper middle class don't have anywhere near the money they used to have working class family I've got are all living together and barely able to pay to have gas to go to work even though gas prices have gone down what the economy in most areas is in the toilet. As you know,

Dan (01:49:42.000)

if your family can't afford gas to go to work, give them some fucking money. You have $10 million plus Alex so shut the fuck up. Second. I love this because we now see two versions of the exact same story two years displaced in time. Yeah. And the story changes a little bit. It's the same story But in the 2017 version of it, he's crying about it. And secondly, well, he's

Jordan (01:50:06.000)

had time to reflect and he's had time to a year and a half to reflect on it and decided that Yeah.

Dan (01:50:13.000)

And also in the 2017 version of it, he talks about how he bought all those old women meals. Yeah, he did not do that in 2015. Oh, it's interesting how that narrative has changed slightly. But yeah, I love being able to point out these instances of like, oh, you're working on a bit? Yeah. It's like seeing as a comic in the stage of the bit, right. The finished version isn't crying and being the hero, right. This version is the economy sucks. Old women can't get iced tea. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah, you need to polish up that bit. To go through more open mic. Yeah, you

Jordan (01:50:45.000)

got another you got another laugh? You got another beat there. And the tag, you're the hero.

Dan (01:50:50.000)

Yeah, that's the trick. Absolutely. So Jordan, we get that it goes from a bid to a chunk, my friend, we now are going to go to the last day of our exploration. August 26 2015. Okay, this is a bad day for humanity. Oh, boy. It's a bad it was a very bad day. What did we do? It was a very bad day for me. Particularly, I remember this day very well. And it's gonna be bad going over this. But also, there are a couple of really awesome things along the way. Okay. I promise you as difficult as some of this may be. Alex Jones reveals something from his past that you would never be able to predict. Okay. He should not have said on air. All right. So got that Kerrville.

Jordan (01:51:37.000)

I'll survive. I'll survive until then. Gotcha. On

Dan (01:51:41.000)

August 26 2015. That was the day that I was in Parker and Adam Ward, to local TV. People in Virginia. were shot on live television. Or not on live television as it were, but right that guy, Vester Flanagan. Yeah. live streamed their murders. Yeah, Twitter. And Alex's response to it is not great. No. So one thing that's important is that it happened at 645. In the morning, Alex Jones gets on air at 11 Central. So that would be what I mean, six, six o'clock. Eastern is when it happened. So that would have been five Central. All right. So anyway, the manhunt that happened, trying to find Vester Flanagan wasn't really even resolved. By the time Alex Jones gets on air, right. A lot of the information isn't there. All that is there is we know that two people were shot. And lots of people have seen the footage. I remember this day, particularly because I know a lot of journalists. I have a lot of people who I went to college with who were journalism students, and some of them I hated, but some of them were good friends of mine I care about very much. And the idea of being able to sort of place the work that a lot of people I know do into these this horrifying situation. It hit me very hard. And I remember this being a very difficult, shocking piece of tragedy and re listening to Alex Jones his coverage of it. bummed me the fuck out? No. So let's just jump in. This is how he begins the show and he starts the narrative.

Alex Jones (01:53:43.000)

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us on this live 26th day of August transmission. We are going to be here for the next three hours broadcasting worldwide. There has obviously been a dramatic, horrifying murder caught in Virginia on a live TV feed of a reporter and a cameraman by a disgruntled employee or former employee who had been involved in racism lawsuits, and another TV Station in Florida. We have the research up on infowars.com He has now reportedly just committed suicide the last 10 minutes. He goes by the name Bryce Williams, but his real name is Vester Flanagan and he reportedly the police say turn the gun on himself after a dramatic Chase. This is just like the Charleston shooting that killed nine people were a racist, whacked out white person who thought a race war was beginning was trying to start a race war, helter skelter style went in and killed those people. This gentleman says that there was racism This TV station because he hadn't been promoted. He has been tweeting that out.

Dan (01:55:05.000)

So there's, I mean, there's a couple of problems with even the beginning of how he sets up the narrative that these two instances aren't similar at all. Nope. Except for that someone killed people in cold blood. The situation with Charleston was a horrible racist. Who wanted to slaughter black people to start a race war. Yeah, that is what he said he wanted to do. He was a suicide bomber. Yeah, basically. Yeah.

Jordan (01:55:32.000)

If you're if you're against suicide bombers, then fucking that's one of them. Yeah,

Dan (01:55:37.000)

in this case, there was a guy who had I don't know, if we can say, the instances that He's filed, you know, equal opportunity, lawsuits about, I don't know if they were true or not. Or if he was projecting racism onto other people, I have no idea. But the reality is that he felt racially oppressed at former stations that he worked at. And he believed that Alison Parker had said some racist things. And I don't know if she did or not, I have no idea. But this was a rage killing. Yeah, this was just a murder directed specifically at specific people. Whereas the Charleston was a act of racial terrorism. Yeah. Now, just because there is a racial dynamic in both of them doesn't make them similar at all. And it's disgraceful of Alex to, to play it that way. So let's let him say more about it. Yeah, I promise. There's not too much about this. And it sucks. But much like, much like once he is Google ads are taken away, he bounces back really fast. He doesn't spend much time on this story.

Alex Jones (01:56:58.000)

So you had Charleston, which was fully blamed on the Second Amendment? No, it wasn't. And then the guilt was applied to white people in general know, well, he had all these black organizations and groups saying it's time to start killing whites. And then I said, if this starts getting triggered, you're gonna have other unstable mentally ill black people, go out and kill white people, and then other mentally unstable, white people are going to go out and start killing black people. And then if it really starts kicking off, you're gonna get a full bore shooting war in this country, and there's gonna be dead people all over the place. chief amongst them the police, maybe you should get rid of the destabilization the Feds used to come in and fully federalize which is what Obama told his cousin Odinga, the Muslim leader, when he lost the presidency of Kenya, he said, had people go out and riot and start burning stuff. And Odinga did it for two months, and they gave him the prime ministership created a new level of government, basically co president, and did the Muslims, the radical Islamist to stop then now they started attacking malls, police stations, all of it. I mean, these people know what they're doing. And I'm not saying it's a Muslim takeover here. I'm saying when George Soros spends over $100,000,000.30 3 million in Ferguson alone, to stir up and to try to get a race war going, and MSNBC and CNN and others promote it like it's normal and good. They plan on doing this.

Dan (01:58:29.000)

I didn't look into Obama telling Odinga to start riots, but guess what? I don't need to that's, that's bullshit. Yeah, total bullshit. Fuck you, Alec. I really, really hate this idea that, you know, this is just the ping pong of races killing each other. Because that's

Jordan (01:58:47.000)

not really Oh, that's but that's that's the way you get to excuse your behavior

Dan (01:58:52.000)

and guns. Yeah, you excuse the fact of gun violence entirely because it's the gun owner. These are these are these are people who are being tricked by globalist into being racist. Right. And I don't have to.

Jordan (01:59:03.000)

They're not responsible gun owners like us. No, they're just they're just manipulated. It's a whole plan to to take our guns away. Yeah, all of our responsible gun ownership is being destroyed by their irresponsible gun ownership. Yeah, you fucking asshole. He's

Dan (01:59:18.000)

an asshole. I'm going to play this next clip. And there is audio that plays of the actual video. Oh, no.

Jordan (01:59:27.000)

By did not watch. I can't do that. No, no, I can't do any of those. I watched

Dan (01:59:33.000)

a like the beginning of it because it just auto played back then. Yeah. But then I was like, ah, turn it off. Turn it off. I never watched fully through it. Because I like I mean, I I'm sure this is what you're saying. I have no interest in seeing that. But Alex plays it three times on his show. Fuck me and I hate the idea of playing this on our show even the audio, but it's important because I'd like you to take note of this being mere hours after this incident. It's horrifying. And Alex Jones doesn't care about these people. I

Jordan (02:00:14.000)

think this is our I think this is one of our best examples of his psychopathy. He doesn't care. At no point in time in that did He say, I feel bad for them? I feel bad for anybody. And

Dan (02:00:26.000)

I will say that at some point in the episode, he might have said that in passing.

Jordan (02:00:30.000)

Yeah, but No, he doesn't mean it. It No, absolutely doesn't mean and Lizzie doesn't say for somebody who constantly says I pray all the time. He doesn't even bother with the bullshit I give. I give them my thoughts and prayers and all of that shit. No, he is a legitimate psychopath.

Dan (02:00:45.000)

And listen to how little concern he has or care about these two people who were murdered in public. And in cold blood. He doesn't care

Alex Jones (02:00:59.000)

at all. You hear about the national numbers of 15,000 people got killed with guns last year in the States. Yeah. And 13 plus 1000 of them. Were gangbangers and criminals and people breaking in houses, if

Jordan (02:01:10.000)

not the police. Not even close to

Alex Jones (02:01:14.000)

only a couple 1000 We're in a

Jordan (02:01:16.000)

fuck you. This isn't the time to defend guns.

Alex Jones (02:01:21.000)

Most of them committed suicide. Aren't you for right to die out there in the left? No, you're not. So how are they going to spin this they're going to show the dramatic footage that we're about to roll right now. Of him in first person point of view with the gun. This Vester Flanagan will start rolling that video with the gun out front. As he goes and shoots the reporter, and he's got the gun for like a minute or more walking around or menacing. And she's so focused during the interview about tourism, that they have no idea and then there's the cameraman if you're listening and you don't want to. I guess he hadn't filed an EEOC thing on him. But I guess he deserves it. He is right. All right, guns are down, she's dead. And then turns the gun and shoots the cameraman. And they are going to sit there and hammer that and push that and promote that.

Dan (02:02:25.000)

He doesn't give a shit. He's talking over them playing this footage. And he's just sort of calling it like a he is a board baseball announcer i That's terrifying. Just hear just hearing

Jordan (02:02:37.000)

those gunshots fucking Yeah, that fucks me up.

Dan (02:02:40.000)

It's I don't I don't It's terrible.

Jordan (02:02:43.000)

I do not feel well.

Dan (02:02:44.000)

Well, that takes some comfort in the fact that we don't have the coconut juice in front of us anymore. And that, that the worst is over.

Jordan (02:02:51.000)

I just can't I just can't man. Just that just and he's just showing it, showing it with no, he doesn't even bother saying like, and if you're? I guess I guess because he knows his listeners don't care no, and knows his listeners are on the side of the gun

Dan (02:03:08.000)

will I'll take out I'll give him credit where credit is due in a minor way it is it is edited. Like to the point where like when the gun is up, and he starts shooting. It's like a blurred screen. So at least they're not showing unedited raw footage, what have you. But the the startling lack of recognition of the humanity of these people that are being murdered and all he cares about his guns? Well, they're not human. It's nuts. It's absolutely nuts. To me. It was a moment when I was listening to this episode. I was like, I don't understand I don't understand this position. Because he he'll make the argument that the Liberals are you know, immediately calling for gun control and stuff like that. It's like you're immediately politicizing this to what do you what do you what's your problem? i It's terrifying to me as a psychopath. Now his statistics about gun violence are completely lies. Complete lies. One of the interesting things that you can dig up is the FBI did a study. And they found that there were 160 incidents of active gun mass shootings from 2000 to 2013. That's design defined as one or more individuals actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Similarly, a study found that there were 1052 incidents from 2013 to December 2 2015, where at least four people were shot but not necessarily killed. So if Alex wants to try and make the argument that mass shootings are down, and that gun violence isn't a real issue, the numbers really don't support that. And if you want to blame all of it on big gangbangers and what have you that will ring out and resonate with your incredibly wide audience white? Yeah, white on Yeah, because of gangbangers,

Jordan (02:05:00.000)

they're the ones who are using guns irresponsibly, people who aren't white. People who aren't white are the only people who ever use guns irresponsibly. Yeah.

Dan (02:05:09.000)

Or knives or cars or bombs.

Jordan (02:05:11.000)

I I am still consistently amazed at how absolutely bigoted he is.

Dan (02:05:20.000)

It's crazy. It is amazing every episode that we find

Jordan (02:05:24.000)

no, this is fucking How can you even feel this way? Unless you have no you have he has no empathy for human beings.

Dan (02:05:33.000)

I mean, not his mother threw him off his her knee at six. It's been all downhill since

Jordan (02:05:39.000)

God I

Dan (02:05:40.000)

this he is there's there's there's like, there's like, there's another explanation that we just don't know yet.

Jordan (02:05:46.000)

Like if he if he if he didn't have a radio show, he'd be a serial killer. Probably like he is a monster.

Dan (02:05:52.000)

No, probably not. Because the CIA Dennis dad would support me probably just be a crazy person on the street. He'd be out there screaming about the exact same shit. Probably. He didn't have a radio show. But he'd just be like, Oh, Jesus, like if he didn't have millions of dollars and a really nice studio. People would see through the things he says yeah, most likely. I mean, if he had, like a YouTube channel, and that's it, and he had to do a show in front of, I don't know, the wall behind. That was all he had people would be like,

Jordan (02:06:23.000)

yeah, the only thing that is saving us is that this is an audio only podcast, maybe not

Dan (02:06:27.000)

for long. I need to buy a tripod for my iPhone. Anyway, I shouldn't reveal my plans. We have one more clip about gun stuff a little bit, and then we can get on to the reveal of Alex Jones his past that will blow your mind. Okay, but this one, he talks about how we don't need we got to stop blaming guns for everything. Which is distasteful. Especially this soon after people were murdered on live television. But the reason I'm keeping this clip in is because it transitions into him composing tweets to Hillary Clinton on air, but it's kind of funny. Oh boy. It's pretty funny. It's a little funny. It's not that funny. It's kind of funny. All right, their

Alex Jones (02:07:11.000)

their Twitter with anti gun diatribes before bodies are cold. So we're yet it's a shame that leftist, anti American scum, literal scum. social engineers. These

Jordan (02:07:22.000)

people are fucking murdered. No,

Alex Jones (02:07:25.000)

it's the leftist. They know they're manipulating people. They're not liberals like Thomas Jefferson. They're scum of the earth. Look at Hillary Clinton. Now because we don't fucking broken and angry we must act to stop gun violence. And we cannot wait any longer praying for the victims families in Virginia. I want to send a tweet out I was trying to do it during the break. We ran out of time doing five things at once. At Hillary Chang Listen, which you turned Libby over to al Qaeda and killed over 50,000 people shut up about violence. And I want to hit her with another tweet. Listen, which it's your White House pushing race war and now blaming the Second Amendment. I want to hit with all that. It's time to hit these people on Twitter on Facebook, all of you because they are up there. arrogantly blaming the Second Amendment and almost 200 million gun owners in this country that protect ourselves as if we are guilty for the Charleston shooting and this Virginia shooting that too whacked out nuts carried out when statistically there's less mass shootings and there were no and Hillary knows that full well she's got bodyguards. Hey, Hillary, you got bodyguards? Are their guns bad too? Why can't I have a gun to protect myself? You're a bitch. I mean, I am sick of these people and excuse me using my French but because that's mean to a female dog. That that that pejorative? Wow, you know what, when a guy's a jerk we call him a bastard or whatever. doesn't write a lot of friends that are bastards. The point is, why can't we call a woman when she's as hard as nails mean? Lying criminal? A political whore for the New World Order.

Dan (02:09:12.000)

He's so close to like a hacky bit there. Yeah, he's so close. He's just inches away from that being bad stand up.

Jordan (02:09:18.000)

Yeah. What can we call a better pitch? Like Jesus? Yeah,

Dan (02:09:21.000)

so that's bad, but let's not deal with it. We already talked about he's wrong about guns, statistics, all that stuff. This is now going to make it all worthwhile. Okay, listen to this next clip. I'm not even gonna set this up at all. This is nuts.

Alex Jones (02:09:35.000)

I've done methamphetamine. Twice in high school. You're in a party good looking girl says Oh, try it you'll love it. We go drive to the beach. You know, you can stay up all night. It's gonna be great. And uh, day later, I'm at the beach doing bad things. Nothing really horrible. But you know, not being a very nice person. Some of the few things I've done in my life that weren't very and I'll tell you I'll put cigarettes out on my hands. Were all sitting there on methamphetamine putting cigarettes out. I have burns from those now, when I was like 15 years old. I would never do that. That's what hardcore drugs do. Ladies and gentlemen, get it twice. Twice.

Dan (02:10:18.000)

Bullshit. Bullshit.

Jordan (02:10:21.000)

Only twice, only twice. Well, come on only twice. That's such

Dan (02:10:25.000)

a lie. Because here's how I know it's a lie. He's saying he did it twice. But if you go to the beach, and a day later, you're on the beach putting cigarettes out on your hand. You've done a lot of the high does not last No, no. If you're still on a bender on this math a day later, you have done a bunch of math during that time. Yeah, Alex, you've you've not done math twice. I would say you've probably done a bunch. And the fact that he's stressing twice. Yeah, it's like he realizes like, shit. Yeah.

Jordan (02:11:01.000)

He just described that as his first time doing math. And that's like, what did he do on his second time doing

Dan (02:11:10.000)

more bad things maybe also went the way they are. Why did he do math again, the way he says that too, is like, I did bad things. Yeah, like put cigarettes out of my hand. Yeah, that's not what you're talking about. You did something really bad on that beach. Alex, I want to know what you did on the beach. Because I've the first time I took mushrooms, I was laying around smoking cigarettes. And I was like, I can't I can't smoke cigarettes unless I defeat the cigarette. Because that's the way my brain works on these mushrooms rare and so I decided what I was going to do is I was going to only allow myself to smoke if I could take a cigarette in one drag. Like the entire secret. Wow. Like that would be conquering the cigarette because my body was stronger than the cigarette that makes sense. When you're wrong, you're not wrong. And so I tried to smoke like three cigarettes that way. I'm like, this is never gonna work. No, of course. So I changed the rules. And I was like, if I can withstand putting out a cigarette on my hand. Yeah, I will have conquered the cigarette through the strength of my being right. So I put a cigarette out on my hand. I was like, Well, that was dumb. And then my breath because I was high on mushrooms. I was like, onto something else. Velvet Underground was playing right started getting caught up in that that was good. Yeah. And that's not a terrible thing. What you did was fucking awful. Whatever you did on meth on the beach. Did you kill that lady?

Jordan (02:12:29.000)

Probably what happened? As I have already said he is a serial killer.

Dan (02:12:33.000)

I think something really, really dark happened. And

Jordan (02:12:36.000)

he actually gave her an abortion. I've known I've turned out he was an abortion doctor. Then he paid himself. Yeah, exactly. It feels bad. Well, his dad paid him. Yeah, he got a bonus. He got a finder's fee. I guess I grew

Dan (02:12:50.000)

up in central Missouri. So I have some experience with people who do math. And one of the things that I think is a pretty good guiding line, sort of a rule of thumb. Yeah, is if you do math once I believe you, if you've done if you say you've done math twice. I don't pretend math a lot because most people like meth and heroin are two drugs that most people don't dabble in. Like, if you take some like, some painkillers here and there. I'll believe that you're not hooked. You know. That's, that's a reasonable thing. People get weed. hallucinogens, those are drugs that people can fuck around with and be completely normal. Yeah, if you take if you smoke meth,

Jordan (02:13:31.000)

I mean, at this point, if you're not smoking weed, how are you getting through the day? Wild? Yeah,

Dan (02:13:36.000)

but if you do math, and you're like, I Oh, try that again. Like that means something. Yeah, and you didn't do it twice? Yeah.

Jordan (02:13:43.000)

And Alex, you have an addictive personality? You're crazy. You're a lunatic? Of course. You're addicted to super female vitality. Of course you did Matthew eat

Dan (02:13:54.000)

a Super Male Vitality laced hamburger.

Jordan (02:13:58.000)

It's it's it's a fucking lunatic. The least

Dan (02:14:01.000)

trustworthy narrative. to it. Yeah. Because you're already here. Yeah, exactly.

Jordan (02:14:06.000)

Why? Why is it? Well, I did math twice. I mean, I did it three times. All right. Well, I did math for about six years. Yeah. All right. That's why I dropped out of junior college. All right. You know, I'm angry right now. That brain force. It was math. Yeah.

Dan (02:14:20.000)

More than might as well be. Yeah, exactly. In terms of his reaction to it. I've never done math. Me neither. Yeah, I'll be clear about that.

Jordan (02:14:28.000)

I don't want to neither do I mainly because of the commercial I saw. When I was really young. Do you remember the commercial on TV? That was like a bunch of Whoa, meth? Uma?

Dan (02:14:39.000)

I don't remember that one.

Jordan (02:14:39.000)

I can't sleep. I can't eat but I got the cleanest house on the street is such a weird catchy, like, this is 15 years later, and I still remember this song. catchy tune format. Like it was a commercial format at that

Dan (02:14:56.000)

point. DARE program should just be catchy songs. Yeah, exactly. So that One admission that Alex makes on this show, he also accidentally admits to things that he really, really should not have admitted in conversations with callers or just in passing. He says two things that I think if his audience really realized what he was saying, would give them reason to, like really doubt him as a legitimate businessman, and a legitimate truth teller, this first one has to do because we've already established he's not a legitimate human. No, this this next one, the first one of the two has to do with his sort of his his willingness and desire to court chaos.

Caller 1 (62) (02:15:40.000)

You know, as this was going on, there was a bunch of me and another a whole bunch of info warriors in an Info Wars IRC chat room. Which by the way, I think you should get rid of the comments sections on the articles and put a live chat or link or a login to Planet Info Wars, we can have real time conversations, because the the comments sections have just become chaos since the David Duke interview, which is complete nonsense.

Alex Jones (02:16:03.000)

Well, that's actually good, though. That just brings us more traffic. And I liked that controversy. I mean, if people think me given somebody two hours on air to put up their ideas of censorship, good. I mean, I want to have that type of mental illness attack me. They don't understand how the internet works or how metrics work. It's really helping the site. So I'm actually quite thankful for it. I hope it intensifies. Actually, the traffic is really helping us with our

Jordan (02:16:28.000)

click. They are really trying to drown him out. Yeah,

Dan (02:16:31.000)

yeah. Buckley is just sliding. Because at the end there, he admits like it's really helped us out with our clicks and ads. Absolutely. And if you extrapolate that, if you take that kernel of what he's saying, why wouldn't he actively do really fucked up things to get attention? Of course, why if he's like, oh, yeah, all that David Dukes bout bullshit for two hours on my show. It brings me tons of traffic. Yeah, that same philosophy would lead him to lie about tons of stuff to make it more sensational in order to get more traffic to his website. Yeah, for ads

Jordan (02:17:03.000)

and clicks. Almost like I don't know, pretty much every website now that most

Dan (02:17:08.000)

clickbait stuff, yeah, not our website. Now. There's no traffic. So

Jordan (02:17:14.000)

who cares? I'm gonna just start writing listicles like this the top seven things you didn't know Alex Jones eats on the weekends?

Dan (02:17:23.000)

You know what? I'm for it? Yeah,

Jordan (02:17:25.000)

I'm absolutely for it should turn into a clickbait web.

Dan (02:17:28.000)

I still don't know how to use SEO. But be that as it may, Alex makes another admission later in the show that I actually think is way more problematic. Because that first one is kind of like, you're just admitting that you have a sensational attention grabbing who gives a shit about what read what if something's real? Or if it's productive, right? That's kind of like, Alright, you're the internet is good for us. Yeah. And so this next one is a little worse. That's just

Alex Jones (02:17:53.000)

the first review. I didn't even look at it before I read it. Five stars Infowars live.com. And most of them usually can't allow. And we block them our shells because of the claims people are making. It's just too dramatic. X two Super Male, super female Colloidal Silver 50% off right now when you buy two bottles, buy two bottles get two free.

Dan (02:18:15.000)

BOGO but with two. So did you get to pick up to G to do you pick up? What the problem is there?

Jordan (02:18:22.000)

Um, let's see. sort of remind me what it was. He just went through there.

Dan (02:18:27.000)

Now I'll just tell you, okay. Basically, he's saying that, you know, in the reviews that they have, yeah, he blocks his

Jordan (02:18:33.000)

own reviews because of what they're claiming. Right? Which means that they can't do what it is those people say that they're doing

Dan (02:18:39.000)

well. That's part of it. It's illegal for him to advertise products as curing exact or anything like Yeah. And so whenever people write reviews that say like this keyword, my blank, right, whatever, he goes in and blocks those, right, legally, he has to. Now if you extrapolate that, he has the ability to block ad block reviews. Yeah. And he is a shady businessman. I have no doubt in my mind. He blocks negative reviews. I can't think of any reason if he has the ability to it makes total sense, then we can trust him. He's

Jordan (02:19:14.000)

an honest man.

Dan (02:19:16.000)

It makes total sense now that all of these products have 4.9 star reviews. Yeah, because you can't like make it far star. It's the same reason that Saddam Hussein would win with like, 97% of the vote. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You make it look good by 4.90.

Jordan (02:19:30.000)

Yeah, I'm so popular. But hey, nobody's 100%. Guys,

Dan (02:19:34.000)

I guarantee that there is an employee at Infowars, who part of their responsibility is to go in and block negative right. And I bet

Jordan (02:19:42.000)

we should hire them. They'd be great at SEO.

Dan (02:19:45.000)

I bet they will. So like in this episode, he's admitted that he's done math twice. That he blocks negative reviews. Yep. And that he loves chaos in order to get traffic. Who cares if it's true or not? Right?

Jordan (02:19:59.000)

Great. it, Alex, you're fucking up. Alex, I think you might be a liar.

Dan (02:20:04.000)

I think he's really close to like it, the stress is getting to him, I think a little bit and 2015 I think that's going to lead more towards him supporting Trump. But I think that there is just a climate of his positions that are making it very difficult, like, the idea that he's selling this Virginia shooting as like, that's related to Sandy Hook, you know, it's a sign that he's not engaging with the stuff that's outside his narrative, and his narrative is becoming thinner and thinner, right. And once the like, Hillary isn't being kicked out of the race, Ron Paul isn't coming through for him the way he needs him to, I think all that's just going to lead him to snap.

Jordan (02:20:44.000)

And that snap is going to be supported by Trump,

Dan (02:20:48.000)

and it's going to be precipitated by him smoking more math. So Alex likes to say now that he never said that Sandy Hook is fake. But we like to

Jordan (02:21:02.000)

just get rid of that. Just he's that's how bad he is at this. He hasn't even gotten rid of the shit that he says. Yeah,

Dan (02:21:08.000)

there's interns that take down negative reviews. Send. Send them to these clips. Yeah, exactly. Here's another clip of him saying that Sandy Hook is fake.

Caller (738) (02:21:16.000)

In my opinion, something really stinks about this entire situation. I don't, I can't even really think of a mass shooting quote unquote, or a high profile shooting like this. That didn't seem like there was something more going on.

Alex Jones (02:21:32.000)

There's been some of them that we caught red handed being staged. Sir hand sir Han, was RFK the situation a few years ago with the Aurora shooting. I mean, those were staged. We caught them. We know exactly what they did. It's unbelievable. And then you look at Sandy Hook, it just isn't real. I don't know what specifically happened. But the official story is a fairy tale. I mean, Jack in the beanstalk isn't real. Santa Claus isn't real. And that is a giant theater operation complete with blue screens. And now even rob, who's uncle who's of Navy SEAL. retired FBI works for a big company. We have a reporter up there and it's like, that's Rob douche uncle. And he's like, Yeah, done that up. someone's gone. Ever see anything like this. There's no paperwork or covering something up. Can't talk. Got to get out of here. Show. That's how twilight zone this has gotten. Yeah, it's

Dan (02:22:31.000)

real twilight zone that you're lying about what Rob do is uncle said on your show. Yeah, go back a couple episodes. They play an Interview with Dan but donburi who finds Rob Douze uncle in, in New Town. And he's just like, man, it's weird. Yep, that's it. Yeah, he doesn't say Oh, could

Jordan (02:22:50.000)

it mean anything mean anything? Yeah. Also that one that one is even more like aggressively Sandy Hook isn't a sandy hook is like Santa Claus. That's what he said. So you're a fucking idiot. Yeah, you did not start a goddamn debate. No, he did for me. Although I have started debates on whether or not Santa Claus is real in the past. Sure. Sure. Sure. So perhaps no, fuck you. Fuck you, Alex. months,

Dan (02:23:19.000)

he was saying that Sandy Hook was fake. And using bullshit lies about lies. Yeah, in order to reinforce it. He's so like,

Jordan (02:23:28.000)

I want to talk to Rob days, uncle. Now I want to talk to Alex.

Dan (02:23:31.000)

I want to be like, what? Why? What? Why do you not except your position from the past? I want to call in his show and just be like, Hey, Alex, do you have any comments on the Center for Medical progress videos that you yelled about for a couple of months and 2015? Right. Do you have any comment on how they are going to prison? Do you have any comment on the Senate and House investigations that found the Planned Parenthood didn't do the things you accused them to see,

Jordan (02:23:56.000)

you can't you can't do that on his show. Principle. He is invincible in history in the same way that

Dan (02:24:03.000)

actually Oh, this episode will end with a caller trying to do what I want to do. Okay, so we'll leave that conversation for when that comes. Okay. But this next clip, he has some weird thoughts about the idea of individual actions being blamed on a group. And I don't think he understands how to universalize his his beliefs. So he really picks and chooses where things here you go.

Alex Jones (02:24:27.000)

This shooting is important because it's about survival. If we don't expose the fact that this was racially motivated, and all part of the race war hype coming out of the White House, we will be collectively blamed for this, who and that's why I get so angry. When I am sick of being blamed for what somebody else does. If some white guy goes and kills nine black people, I didn't do it. And if some black guy goes and shoots to white people, black people didn't do that either. But the folks that are hyping Get up collectively that when a black person kills a white person, or a black person kills a white person, vice versa, that it's the group's fault. Well, yeah, I mean, if you're part of ISIS, and ISIS goes around killing people, you share responsibility. But if I'm part of a racial ethnic group, and someone in my quote group does something, they're their own person. And I know our audience gets that. But we have to explain this to all the leftist followers who really mean well, but have bought into the guilt as children, that they've done something wrong. And separately, the minorities then get a chip on their shoulder, some of them and their whole world is through those goggles through that distortion, that everybody's out to get them. I mean, if you go work somewhere, and you act like people are out to get you, you're gonna have a big problem. If you just are optimistic, have a good attitude, nine times out of 10. Even if you're working with a bunch of jerks, you'll end up being successful. And that's what it comes down to. I mean, I've run into plenty of racists in my life against white people, I just laugh about it.

Dan (02:26:04.000)

I don't believe that for a second. Also, I have no evidence that Alex Jones has had a job as an adult. So I don't know what he's talking about. Now. I don't know how he would have had time to have a job. Fuck, you know, he's going around fucking 150 Women 16. I don't know how he'd have a job. But then the only times he's talked about jobs is working with his cousins doing odd jobs and being forced to inhale termite poison under a house. And then also when he was kicked out of school for a year and went to work on an animal farm, right. So like the only instances are on the Animal

Jordan (02:26:36.000)

Farm. Yeah. That Jowell Orwell told the story very well,

Dan (02:26:39.000)

the jobs he's had had been like punishments. Go fuck around with your cousin, right? I don't mean, maybe he had a job when he was in junior college before he got his public access show. But I don't see any evidence that he actually knows what the real world.

Jordan (02:26:54.000)

Here's, here's the thing that I got through there when he

Dan (02:26:58.000)

focusing on the smallest piece.

Jordan (02:27:01.000)

I apologize. No, don't apologize for it. I think it's I think it's valuable. His his point about ISIS, like whenever he said, if an ethnic group does it, then I agree with him. You know, all white people aren't responsible for the Charleston shooting. All black people aren't responsible for it. Even though those two things are unrelated. They are not the same. No, and it is a law,

Dan (02:27:26.000)

the knock you out is the act of an individual is not the fault of the group, or at least the group, the pieces of the group individually are to blame, right? The actions of one, it's a fallacy if

Jordan (02:27:37.000)

you're a member of ISIS, then ISIS is responsible. Well, I

Dan (02:27:41.000)

mean, I kind of get what he's trying to say he's saying it in unsmoothed way. But the idea is, I believe is what he's saying. Being a part of ISIS is a choice. And therefore if you choose to be a part of ISIS, you are taking on responsibility for the actions of the group, right? Whereas being a part of an ethnic group is not a choice. That's something you're born into. And therefore you can't withdraw from the group. And so you're not responsible for the things

Jordan (02:28:08.000)

that so then the very obvious parallel there is this. If you are an info warrior, and you commit an act of violence,

Dan (02:28:17.000)

Alex is to blame. Exactly. Well, that is a problematic that is logic. That is his logic, or buddy, I

Jordan (02:28:23.000)

don't think I don't necessarily think that it's true, but even it sure seems like that's what he's saying. Right?

Dan (02:28:28.000)

I mean, take info warrior out of it. It just a constitutionalist. Right. Or Liberty people, right. patriot movement. White nationalist, white nationalist. Yeah. I mean, he wouldn't say that he's a part of that. But the he is proof of the pudding is in the eating? Yeah. Like all of those groups. Yeah, it he is. He sets himself up negatively in these ways, because we aren't making that argument. We're just saying that that's what the logic leads to. Yeah. But the other thing, I think that is really deeply problematic about what he's saying is he is very frequently demanded that Muslims apologize or one person's Yeah, and we're all of ISIS. Yeah. And so basically, what he's saying in this clip is, you know, you aren't part of the white people individually aren't responsible for the acts of an individual white person. But if you're a part of ISIS, then you are responsible for the actions of ISIS. Also, I think all Muslims are an ISIS. Right.

Jordan (02:29:28.000)

So, but even then his argument to combat that would be well, you don't have to be a Muslim. It's not an ethnic group. Well, right.

Dan (02:29:38.000)

I guess that's true.

Jordan (02:29:39.000)

It's a it's still a choice. It's

Dan (02:29:40.000)

a religion. Well, right. That is, that's true in the real world, but I don't think that he would see Arabs as non Muslims. Absolutely. So there is

Jordan (02:29:51.000)

a lot about the Coptic Christians Dan, Christians are being murdered more than anybody else around the world. Dan, most Christians you're attacked those persecuted Christians

Dan (02:30:02.000)

yeah all right whatever. So something really fun happens towards the middle of this show and a caller calls in and wants to read some Frank Zappa lyrics

Jordan (02:30:14.000)

All right now I'm in now I'm in

Dan (02:30:16.000)

eighth it turns it to Alex Jones taking requests, because they start playing some Zappa. Like it's like a drivetime. That's fine. Yeah. Okay, it's kind of fun. And then Alex Jones gets really weird about what he knows. Gotcha. It's super fun.

Unknown Speaker (02:30:33.000)

I see you until the day that we don't need you don't go for help. No one will hear you. Your mind is totally controlled. It had been stuffed into my mold and you will do what you were told until the rights to you are sold. That's right folks don't text that that Well, I am this light on it

Alex Jones (02:30:54.000)

you know what I love that song and my problem is that I do choose like 90% of the bumper music and then so many times I write down songs I want to play I've had Frank Zappa his wife on I think I believes a lot too. Yeah, their listeners his son and I wanted to play that never got around to it. So what's the name of that song again?

Unknown Speaker (02:31:15.000)

I am swan was on the overnight sensation album 1973

Alex Jones (02:31:19.000)

We're gonna get the I Am the slime trying to play that at the bottom of the hour for you if we're able to do it with that particular chemical engineer he was on his own right and it's date way ahead of his time transcending the left right paradigm and data cancer very, very young. They said the good die young Bob Marley died of cancer young and it's just a real bummer. You gotta wonder and we know that

Jordan (02:31:45.000)

Bob Marley would have loved you Alex,

Alex Jones (02:31:48.000)

but the stuff I was told and then this is on the slime we're gonna come up with hilarious later. The things I've been told about John Lennon what happened to them I'm I'm allowed to tell no, no. And that's part of being a journalist is really dangerous really scary stuff. Wait, and then you're not allowed to talk about it. Wait. And I you know, I don't blame people that know all this for not speaking out, though. Because, you know, when the government sits in your living room, and tells you if you talk about it, they're gonna kill you. And they've already killed people close to you. You have a tendency to listen to him

Dan (02:32:25.000)

the entire way sat in his living room

Jordan (02:32:28.000)

and they've killed people that Alex that Alex is close to. I don't fucking the government has killed people. Alex release the names of those people killed by

Dan (02:32:36.000)

the government kick because then they'll get killed in some way that he can't talk about John Lennon what he knows about that. What could he possibly know about John Lennon? Paul McCartney has been dead since 1962. Oh, yeah.

Jordan (02:32:46.000)

You can't reveal that. He's still got a good career go and

Dan (02:32:50.000)

you can't let it Oh, one lied to Alex about something. And he's acting weird about that. So

Jordan (02:32:55.000)

what Lennon was assassinated by the government? Probably that probably makes sense. Right? Yeah. But that seems like it's something he could just basic. He could just throw out there. Like, it's not like he's, he's already playing fast and loose with reality. Anyways, what is he gonna get sued by?

Dan (02:33:13.000)

Quite frankly, that theory is in his wheelhouse. Yeah, exactly where he lives, right. So if he started saying that, no one would be like, Oh, this one's real.

Jordan (02:33:21.000)

Now, if He then started to it may be he's actually talking about the fact that John Lennon was a wife beater and a terrible human being. And if he hadn't been assassinated, I doubt we would remember him quite as fondly. Oh, yeah. So maybe that's what he's trying to avoid saying,

Dan (02:33:37.000)

well, you're gonna get killed. You just revealed the secret information about John Lyman.

Jordan (02:33:42.000)

I think the government has to come to my house first. My house. Yeah.

Dan (02:33:46.000)

Hey, you know what? I never go to my living room. Yeah, so I'd say governments aren't gonna be able to fit all in my bedroom.

Jordan (02:33:52.000)

Well, the government is a lot like vampires. They have to be invited into your living room. It's true. Yeah, it's definitely true. Yeah. Well actually accorded Alex the government is vampires. Yeah.

Dan (02:34:02.000)

errand. Dracula's and Renfield. There. So, yeah, Jordan. Yeah. We were coming to the end.

Jordan (02:34:10.000)

We are coming to come into the walking away. But we have a

Dan (02:34:15.000)

little bit left here. Alex has an interview at the end of his show on August 26 2015. Okay. It is a first time guest with a lady named Juliet Turi and ski. I don't know if you've ever heard of this lady.

Jordan (02:34:30.000)

Is she the lady that we heard laughing at the Yeah, Grace. I already hate her. She,

Dan (02:34:34.000)

as far as I can tell. So I'm looking into her a little bit. There's not a ton of information out there in the world. She has her own website. And she is a anarcho capitalist. She is a firm supporter in bitcoins. She is an anti feminism woman.

Jordan (02:34:55.000)

Why didn't Why doesn't she invest in that one dudes? That crypto Yeah, why does it You get into Max coins I don't know I think she should buy low yeah absolute 20 cents now I mean now that the the currency is we were not getting back on the gold standard so obviously we're going to need to switch to max coins Yeah,

Dan (02:35:11.000)

she is incredibly I don't want to say dumb because she she clearly has read a few things and it seems mean to call everyone can know a lot of stuff but you can still be dumb. I very strongly disagree with almost everything she says okay, she's terrible. All right, she and Alex hit it off famously Of course they are flirting so hard. Oh, throughout this. Well, Alex is flirting really? Okay, there we go. She's putting up with it because she knows he has millions of viewers. Yeah. And I found a place defensively he has millions of viewers, I found a Patreon page of hers. And I would like to take a moment to pat ourselves on the back. Because we've never been on Infowars we have a much smaller audience than Alex Jones. Or even this Julia Turetsky. She has a YouTube channel. He has way more views than us. Yeah, we have more donators. Now, granted, she makes more money, naturally, but just because a couple people are giving her like $100 a month. Gotcha. But be that as it may we bulk as more people. We have more of the public.

Jordan (02:36:22.000)

We are like the Bernie Sanders man. It's all about grassroots small donations. We are a movement. Absolutely. The policy wonks and

Dan (02:36:29.000)

when I went to her Patreon page, I was like, great if we started a political party. Yeah, why not? Yeah, yeah, I think we should. I was gonna start a political party when I was in college called the fuck this shit party. That's not a bad name. Sick of it.

Jordan (02:36:41.000)

That's not a bad name.

Dan (02:36:42.000)

They asked me about my positions on stuff.

Jordan (02:36:45.000)

Dan, how do you feel about the new health care bill? Fuck that shit. All right. That's a good position. Like that. Yeah, you're I'm gonna need I'm gonna do one more example. Dan, how do you feel about the war in Iraq? Look that shit. You know what? I have joined this

Dan (02:36:59.000)

party. That's a good party. Yeah, that's the official position to the policy walks. So when I saw that she, this Patreon thing. I was like, we have the potential to be like we can I succeed. And Alex Jones guest. And that's great. But then I realized that that guy who was on selling the info wagon is making substantially less than us. All right, maybe we're

Jordan (02:37:23.000)

just turns out Infowars. See? Yeah, if the if he really had millions of viewers, yeah. Then don't you think those people would get more of a bump out of it?

Dan (02:37:32.000)

Well, the people who do listen are probably also not actively engaged in the way Alex wants them to be right. And they're really only motivated, much like Alex by guns and racism. Yeah. And since she's not really advocating those things, it doesn't drive traffic to her site as much as you'd like. Because her positions are largely, like just problematic, like extreme libertarian positions. Gotcha. So the same sort of fantasyland stuff you hear coming out of like Stefan Molyneux, and those those types, these these people who's like, for like, you know, taxation is a crime. You bring that up, because it's something I hate. I hate that position.

Jordan (02:38:14.000)

No roads. Yeah, no roads, no schools. Well, if your house lights on fire, you either pay the firemen or you burn that house to the ground. Well, the way that those are your choices, the way

Dan (02:38:24.000)

that libertarians generally get around the roads argument is that businesses need roads in order to get people to go to them. And so you just you know, it's in

Jordan (02:38:34.000)

there. So the cost then gets translated to you the consumer

Dan (02:38:38.000)

well, but the business would make those roads and the argument that I would say, Yeah, but

Jordan (02:38:42.000)

then you would have to pay the business for the roads, they would have to then Well, that is lost of the roads, there's a

Dan (02:38:49.000)

further problem to it. And that is the only places you could drive to our stores. Because there would be no incentive for them to create

Jordan (02:38:56.000)

roads to your home

Dan (02:38:58.000)

or a hospital or anything like that. It's deeply problematic. All of the beliefs of that. Yeah, Libertarians espoused do

Jordan (02:39:06.000)

you mean it's dumb? Oh,

Dan (02:39:09.000)

it's dumb couched in really smart language. Right. It's well, yeah, but that's how that work. People get tricked by it really easily. And I have a couple of clips of Julia tour and ski and Alex Jones and a number of them they think they're riffing they're not no no. But this first one they advocate conservatives are not funny. This first clip they advocate for child labor, okay.

Julia Turansky (02:39:34.000)

What if the state is God, then it's a sacrificial God and were the people who are being sacrificed to it because a few call a higher authority, which is the sees now higher power to most people, then you are not an individual anymore. You're relying on somebody else. It's like if you're 40 year old man and you still call your mommy for to make your lunch. It I mean, it's just that on the nipple.

Alex Jones (02:39:57.000)

Now they're saying children dreamers are up to Age 30. And they're saying that's the new bit you become a man or a woman at 30

Unknown Speaker (02:40:04.000)

and that stemmed from making Child. Child work illegal, right? What was the point of making children under certain age illegal torque? It was to keep them children until they were like 25.

Alex Jones (02:40:17.000)

I was about to say there were certainly abuses covered in the jungle and others where they're doing or they're abusing want to ban your kids taking the trash out or getting the eggs. That shows they're a bunch of babbling idiots and aren't confident when in truth what you did in the old days is you apprenticed your sons, mainly, but daughters as well, that's not what they can to really rough situations that my dad apprenticed in basically, everything. By the time he was like, 16. I mean, I was sent to do apprentice stuff, I didn't know how important that was.

Unknown Speaker (02:40:52.000)

It can build anything, they can't fix anything, they have to call somebody for anything that needs to be done. And my father comes from that same generation, he grew up in the Soviet Union, you can't call anybody, you got to do everything by yourself. And in a system like that, you have to use black markets. And now it's like, all the toilet breaks. I have to pay someone because I don't have a license to do this. So it's an it's a deterioration of everybody.

Dan (02:41:19.000)

You can wait. It's so fucking stupid. You

Jordan (02:41:22.000)

can fix your own toilet. That's so fucking stupid, though. Yeah, like if you're talking about free market capitalism. Isn't that what you want? Yeah, isn't that what you want everybody to have a job? Right. So maybe we have specialists. Yeah, maybe somebody fixes this shit because you are capable of fixing something else? Sure. You are the these? How? How?

Dan (02:41:47.000)

There are so many problems. Wow, there's so many problems with that clip.

Jordan (02:41:50.000)

There's no God yet. There were some abuses. Some some Yeah, I will admit child labor was not a perfect system. They had some kinks. Yeah, they had to get also like, like their advocation is you should be an adult at 12 You should be an adult at 12 You shouldn't get any of the rights of an adult until you're 18 But you should be able to work you should be able to not have sex and do drugs or smoke or drink or fighting a war market. Let them do all that Yeah, well, maybe that maybe that is Yeah, but the idea

Dan (02:42:27.000)

that like child labor being illegal was in order to keep people children longer is crazy. Oh fucking stupid. There's so many reasons to not have children doing especially dangerous jobs, which was what was going on? Yeah, working and they weren't mine the most

Jordan (02:42:42.000)

dangerous jobs, they have little tiny, they have little tiny hands you can get in all that machinery and you definitely wouldn't lose those hands. No. And when you know documented instances of that when you lost those hands, you definitely wouldn't get workman's comp because that didn't exist it that you were just a person you were just a person without hands from there on out right now. Oh, and you lost your fucking job. But

Dan (02:43:02.000)

think about all the character you gained. Think about how much you've learned about being an adult. Yeah, man.

Jordan (02:43:08.000)

But do you know what really keeps you from taking out the garbage?

Dan (02:43:13.000)

All that handle lessness we've discussed this in the past to the where that belief that they're trying to outlaw taking out the garbage comes from That's insanity. God.

Jordan (02:43:22.000)

So this lady is just anti union shit, really? Is what that basically that's what they were. That's what they were doing is, Oh, you don't have a license? That is anti union. You can

Dan (02:43:33.000)

fix your own toilet. Yeah, your cousin can fix your toilet. Yeah, who cares?

Jordan (02:43:36.000)

You should really be able to know how to fix your home in order to make sure you can't do anything more useful. Well, if you're more value, if

Dan (02:43:44.000)

you're a homeowner, it's I imagine it's probably pretty fun to be a weekend warrior type, you know, make a deck or something. People do that. Yeah. That's why there's a term for it. You know, yeah, there's, there's, that's why we have stores built entirely around it. There's tons of YouTube channels that just explain how to do these things. Do they explain how to take your garbage out now that you don't have a license to explain how to get a license to pick up the garbage? So

Jordan (02:44:09.000)

you gotta go to the DMV, you got to wait for an hour. It's terrible. So

Dan (02:44:14.000)

this Giulia or she is an anti state. She believes that states are intrinsically oppressive. Yes. And I don't even want to deal with that now, but I do want to talk about

Jordan (02:44:25.000)

I love that they're shitting on a sacrificial God whenever they believe in a God that demands sacrifice.

Dan (02:44:32.000)

Well, also like she is Russian, and she moved to Canada. So there we go. You know what I

Jordan (02:44:41.000)

mean? Yeah, well, that's why she hates the state. She because it provides her health care

Dan (02:44:46.000)

well, but there's different states you know, like nope, that's indicative of that philosophy being flawed like different states are run differently. I can't different countries are different. No, they all become communism. Also. Here's the fucked up thing. Alex Jones is super into nationalism. He's having an anti state person, as Yes. And they're hitting it off. Yeah. Because of their share. Well,

Jordan (02:45:09.000)

taxation is a crime. And we definitely don't want to stay. But we do need a state to keep immigrants away from our country. Right? So the white, like, I get I have, I have ideological inconsistencies. But when I find one, I go, Oh, that's dumb. And then I shore it up. Yeah, you know, I'm always I'm always trying to build it, but there's a central ideology around it. And if there is a contradiction, I have to grapple with that. And these people never do that. Know, their ideology is whatever they feel like,

Dan (02:45:48.000)

that's why that's the problem with these, like anarcho capitalist types is that when there's a contradiction, they will a fantasy. Yeah, they just come up with a fantasy scenario where it's like, oh, no, this fixes that. Yeah, they're like, Okay, well, yeah,

Jordan (02:46:02.000)

it's it's constantly building this house of cards. Yeah, but they think that it's that it can never be blown down No, like it and in their world, they're right. The only problem is they it's it's the luxury of everybody else knowing they're wrong. That allows them to believe their dumb shit. Yeah, if any of what they really wanted came into play. They would immediately be like, Oh,

Dan (02:46:29.000)

it'd be a disaster.

Jordan (02:46:30.000)

I got it you guys Yeah, I Okay, now I get it now. Yeah, you're right. You're right. We shouldn't put children to work the because my kids are dead.

Dan (02:46:38.000)

Like the utter terror of the reality of rolling back all the liberal progress that's been made over the last say 5070 years. If it were all to go away, we would live in a terrifying hellscape Yeah, and

Jordan (02:46:53.000)

but that's, that's again, that's the trick of nostalgia. Oh, it's not like it was in the good old days make it a great again. Yeah, exactly. You know, I remember when I was a kid, everything was perfect because I didn't have to come to grips with the fact that all my friends were dying around me Yeah,

Dan (02:47:11.000)

so you might be wondering why do Alex and Julia get along? If they have these foundational differences? One because about fucking she is pretty attractive. And then the sold the second call

Jordan (02:47:22.000)

it the second Alex Jones will believe anything on the way to a fuck

Dan (02:47:27.000)

yeah. And the second is that she's into guns and

Unknown Speaker (02:47:31.000)

no more gun as a woman. I own a gun because that is

Alex Jones (02:47:36.000)

powerful penguin. Word woman might hurt somebody's feelings.

Unknown Speaker (02:47:39.000)

Oh, yeah. Soon natural birth will be illegal because transgender people can't give natural birth,

Alex Jones (02:47:45.000)

by the way, don't joke, they're actually talking about that. Now. Now. Say I'm a pro. I'm not

Unknown Speaker (02:47:49.000)

joking. I'm a purple, purple penguin who owns a gun. And I think all women should own guns, all sorry, all purple fingers should own guns. And I think there's a clip that you guys could show and I really summarized why quite well.

Alex Jones (02:48:03.000)

Let's go to this purple penguin clip is the purple penguin with a gun.

Unknown Speaker (02:48:07.000)

Women's rights and gun rights are congruent. Most females are physiologically smaller than most males. This puts women at a great disadvantage in a life threatening situation against a man. A gun is an equalizer. Without it. The equality between sexes is a joke.

Alex Jones (02:48:24.000)

But wait a minute to even say that women on average aren't as strong as men is sexist. And as part of the hierarchy of male oppression that you're defending and helping I've never heard such thoughtcrime it's crazy. You saying I can't have a baby. Because you're claiming I'm not as equal to you in a reproductive way. That's sexist as well. I'm a purple penguin. I can lay eggs.

Dan (02:48:47.000)

I think I legitimately think they think that's comedy. Like I think you think they think that's funny. I think he thinks I'm on fire. I'm dropping purple penguins everywhere. Yeah, I'm making great points about like, gender roles. I think he thinks it's funny.

Jordan (02:49:03.000)

You know, I think I agree with her. I think every woman should own a gun. But I think men should not be allowed to have them.

Dan (02:49:11.000)

Okay, that's an interesting position. I'm not, I'm not a policy wonk clap.

Jordan (02:49:15.000)

If what we're looking for is an equalizer. Well, men already have the physical advantage. So we have to have women equalize. But men have a gun. It's back to being unequal.

Dan (02:49:26.000)

No, I think it's, you know, you know how I look at it. I look at it as a game show

Jordan (02:49:30.000)

the barrel of a gun. And that's how you look at in the future,

Dan (02:49:33.000)

no doubt that it's a game show where the first three rounds, right, there were one point whoever wins gets one point, right? And then the fourth round 1000 points. First three rounds don't matter. And that's the physical stuff, right is the 1000 is the 1000 points. Yeah, so it doesn't even matter if you're up three to one or three to zero right there. But anyway, this next one, they're trying to riff a little bit about privilege.

Unknown Speaker (02:49:58.000)

discriminate For me, I'm white, so I can't help it's part of the culture. I am white privileged, you know, like how my family died in communist Russia, but I have privilege. Yeah, well,

Alex Jones (02:50:08.000)

you're responsible for slavery.

Dan (02:50:10.000)

Alright. So that's, that's shameful. I'm sad that your family died in communist Russia.

Jordan (02:50:17.000)

That's interesting after what she said. I'm a very ambivalent

Dan (02:50:21.000)

I don't know anything about her dad except to use the black market to fix his toilet.

Jordan (02:50:25.000)

You know, that's true. I am I here. I'm, I'm against her fam. I am sad that her family right and Russia? Yeah, but a little sad she didn't.

Dan (02:50:37.000)

The issue. The issue that like when when you're talking about privilege, the thing that they never take into account is that there is a societal bias against black people. That is just true. It is studies have shown this over and over. That's true. And when Juliet to Lansky walks down the street, no one knows, just by looking at her that her family died. In Soviet Russia, no one knows that. And she doesn't have to reveal that information, except by her own consent, she can give that information up and people can judge her however they choose. A black person is immediately seen as a black person, they don't have a choice about how the world looks at them, which again, is

Jordan (02:51:25.000)

why half white is not what you would call some

Dan (02:51:29.000)

No. And that is the part of privilege that Alex Jones refuses to at all look at. And it's one of the foundational pieces of that conversation. Well,

Jordan (02:51:42.000)

here's another part of that privilege. Just miss it out of hand is part of the privilege, right? Well, exactly. Well, then there's the fact she is a gun owner, she can own a gun. And if she were arrested, or if she were in the process of being arrested, they would respect that. Probably, if she were black, she would be dead.

Dan (02:52:01.000)

With her child in the car. Yeah, exactly. I mean,

Jordan (02:52:05.000)

there is a Oh, lady. Oh, there's so much of a white privilege to that,

Dan (02:52:09.000)

right. And then those are hypothetical situations. No, those are very literal situations.

Jordan (02:52:15.000)

Well, but not in regards to her. But how many times? How many times? Have you seen a white man with a gun? Talk to told her Hey, calm down. Don't worry about it. We're going to de escalate this situation. Yeah. And how many times have you seen a black man with a gun? Who is trying to talk to people trying to de escalated, get fucking shot and murdered? That's what white privilege is. Yeah, dumb white lady.

Dan (02:52:43.000)

I honestly think that there's a more interesting conversation to be had. If she wanted to discuss, like the male gaze, or something like that. Yeah, because she is an attractive lady. And in the same way that she doesn't really get to choose how men objectify her, or sexualized her being. And you can see that if you look at comments online, certainly about how, you know, this is one of the hottest libertarian ladies, you know, there are websites that talk about her like that, right? And if she wants to discuss, you know, like that websites like Info Wars. Yeah. And people who go to that website. I'm sure. I didn't look at the comments on this video, but I'm sure a lot of Yeah, Bora. Her. There's an entire website dedicated to her feet. That's what's, that's what happens to celebrity were they it turns out, well, I didn't click on it.

Jordan (02:53:35.000)

Well, I mean, come on, Dan. You're the one who's supposed to do the research. I think our listeners want to know how that how that.

Dan (02:53:45.000)

I feel like that was not germane to our investigation. Oh, probably not.

Jordan (02:53:48.000)

So, like I said, is that what turned Alex Jones to Trump? No, but

Dan (02:53:52.000)

actually her feet. This next clip is about Trump. Okay. Julia has some interesting thoughts.

Jordan (02:53:57.000)

Is she all in on Trump?

Dan (02:53:59.000)

Well, I don't know. Let's find out.

Unknown Speaker (02:54:01.000)

We're not gonna have a better world with Trump as president. You still president you still control by the same powers doesn't matter. But oh. Watching

Alex Jones (02:54:10.000)

him, I watched his response to the Univision reporter. And just the way he handled that reporter and kept making him look stupid. I mean, Trump is something else

Unknown Speaker (02:54:19.000)

that's open eyes, because he's been in there. He's bribed the politicians. He's seen the favorite.

Alex Jones (02:54:24.000)

He could get in trouble for that. So he owns it. Yeah, really smart. We'll be back.

Dan (02:54:28.000)

So that's wild. She doesn't care. Because he's still going to be a president. He's still gonna be beholden to the globalists, I guess. I'm not sure if that's what she would say. But, you know, because she's anti state. So it doesn't matter. Whoever's the President is still the president

Jordan (02:54:41.000)

and oppression. Yeah, it's still an oppressive society.

Dan (02:54:45.000)

But she's still much like Alex was real charm by his racism. And when they're talking about him, shutting down a Univision reporter that was a Hispanic reporter. And if you recall, that was not a dignified exchange. No Oh, so I like that.

Jordan (02:55:01.000)

That was very sad. That was a very weak man. Yeah. Just doing Yeah. No.

Dan (02:55:07.000)

I like though that even her even this anti state anarcho capitalist is I like his racism. Yeah, I think it's pretty delightful. People love racism and at the end there, they're like, he's bribing politicians. So he knows what you know, you know, this this inside and out? Yeah, you're just saying you like him because he's committed crimes. Yeah. And he's willing to admit it. Yeah. That's fucked up.

Jordan (02:55:34.000)

He tells it like it is Dan. So that's that's a straight shooter.

Dan (02:55:38.000)

I mean, that's as close to a position on Trump as we get at the end here of this. This stretch we got two more clips left. This first one is problematic.

Unknown Speaker (02:55:48.000)

In America today. We have nothing in the book burners we are just as bad maybe to a different extreme and we Canadians are even worse. Oh the Canadians you can't even have a legitimate conversation with the Canadian person they're scared to voice any opinion to Citroen have any

Alex Jones (02:56:04.000)

we said they ban Old Glory next now schools are banning all flash. Then soon all images are evil. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker (02:56:11.000)

I know a man who lost his entire career and has been totally discredit a dead and slandered because he used the term house negro. Describe a situation where it actually happened. And we had Cynthia McKinney, the first black female congresswoman from Georgia support this man.

Dan (02:56:30.000)

So I looked into this, because the way she presents it is he used the term house Negro in a situation where it was real. It was right

Jordan (02:56:38.000)

I Dan, I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say she is misrepresenting this situation.

Dan (02:56:44.000)

This is from the Ottawa Citizen publication. Joanne St. Louis is suing dentists ranked court for defamation because of a comment. And a four week jury trial began today. Ran court who has since been fired by the university he worked at used a racially charged insult in two articles he posted on his blog about the university's internal politics, St. Louis, who was the director of the university's human rights Research and Education Center, he criticized the methodology of a student produced report alleging systematic racism in the university's academic fraud process. She alleges that his comment likened peer evaluation to academic fraud, implying that she supported racism and acted in a servile manner towards the boss. Rank court denies these allegations, saying that St. Louis's interpretation of the meaning of his insult is quote, extrapolated and misguided. So in two instances, he called her a house negro. And here, well, at least you said negro. Here's his defense, that's a win. Here's his defense Jesus rank court called the phrase house Negro, a common term used to describe privileged minority members who act to minimize the concerns of their own groups. St. Louis was the first black female law student at the University of British Columbia, and the only black woman ever elected as a bencher at the Law Society of Upper Canada. common term

Jordan (02:58:06.000)

you can't walk down the street, frankly. Yeah, I can't look every time I go to the store. It's just thrown around. Yeah. You know, like some people say, what up? Sure. And I say how sneaky,

Dan (02:58:21.000)

right? Jesus Christ, but her presentation of it is, so her presentation of it is so appealing to people who agree with it already. It's like, because you don't know like, I don't know how you defend the idea of actually calling someone that. Because the way the way she's presenting it is, he's talking about it in a situate, like you're thinking he's talking about old time slavery days. And it's like in a historical context or something like that. And because he used the word these PC sensors come in, it's like they're trying to take the N word out of Huck Finn, you know, like, that sort of thing, right? It's not, he did not like what someone said. He disagreed with them. And he called them a house Negro twice. Yeah. That's not okay. No, it's totally fine. I mean, it's free speech.

Jordan (02:59:07.000)

You can't stop it.

Dan (02:59:08.000)

It is free speech.

Jordan (02:59:09.000)

I hear it all the time. It's free speech, but

Dan (02:59:11.000)

at the same time, a burro, there's consequences. You know what, frankly,

Jordan (02:59:15.000)

in his world, it is a common term. You're probably it but that that argument probably makes sense to him. Yeah, probably because the world within which he lives.

Dan (02:59:25.000)

And maybe Julia Turan ski, it's a you know, maybe it's a common term for her to, it shouldn't be. Anyway, let's hope not. We have used remarkable restraint in not bringing up the fact that Julia Tran ski is Russian and maybe is working for Putin. Because she's not

Jordan (02:59:42.000)

gonna say, Wait, what is this? Did this just take a really crazy turn? I

Dan (02:59:46.000)

just want to take this opportunity to point out that just because someone is Russian does not mean that there's something nefarious involving their government. Yeah.

Jordan (02:59:55.000)

And I definitely don't think that somebody whose entire family was murdered In Russia,

Dan (03:00:00.000)

communist Russia. Yeah, that's different now. Putin strong man.

Jordan (03:00:06.000)

But who was he? Okay, no, nevermind.

Dan (03:00:09.000)

Who cares? We have one more clip.

Jordan (03:00:11.000)

We need kings. We're gonna ring back kings bring back chivalry. I want to fight duels. She's first on the list.

Dan (03:00:18.000)

We got one more clip. Yeah, and it's kinda long. But I want to give you some setup. Okay, what ends up happening is Julia and Alex have had some nice riffs. All right, having a riff fest thinking they're thinking they're funny. Yes. And then they get a call of someone who's trying to tell Alex that he's wrong about everything.

Jordan (03:00:39.000)

You know what, here before we go before we go further, like as a comic, listening to these people riff about this horrible shit, thinking it's funny. These are the same people who would go to a comedy show and immediately get offended. Oh, I imagine these Oh, political correctness is out of control. And then they go to a comedy show and they go, how could you

Dan (03:01:01.000)

say that? Yeah, fuck you. They're trying to talk about how Trump should be killed. The the people

Jordan (03:01:07.000)

who insist on having a clean show are the same people who fight against political correctness all the time. Totally. Yeah, I look, I can't say fuck on stage. But yeah, sure. Go ahead and defend somebody using the term house negro. Yeah, yeah, I'm the fucking bad guy.

Dan (03:01:25.000)

Meanwhile, flash forward two years, and Alex is like screaming about that Shakespeare play. Yeah, well, so I mean, it's all bullshit. So it's all performative bullshit on his part, but he gets his call. And if the guy had been allowed to speak, I legitimately think he would be making some of the similar points that I would make. And you get to hear what Alex's response to it is. And it's not great. Okay, here we go. This is pretty fun. A specialist.

Jordan (03:01:50.000)

This is you living through the living vicariously of Florida. This is a

Dan (03:01:54.000)

little bit I think I would do a better job. I think I'd have more at my disposal more information this guy perhaps, because I've been studying this right, but he still doesn't

Jordan (03:02:03.000)

I don't think I don't think anybody would have more information at their disposal than you at this, but

Dan (03:02:08.000)

this guy does a pretty decent job. He's better than that one caller we had a couple of months back. Okay, cool. But here we go. It's so fun based on how like they're living in this fancy free world at the beginning of the clip and then it fucking turns okay, it's great.

Alex Jones (03:02:23.000)

Rachel Maddow, he's a man and if they attacks that on their break, it's

Jordan (03:02:29.000)

Kuma

Unknown Speaker (03:02:30.000)

Well she's a public figure she should anticipate

Alex Jones (03:02:34.000)

to be honest, Rachel, I want to date you when they say take shape as you get older and I mean, I think I think he's good looking stupid.

Unknown Speaker (03:02:42.000)

She has nice suits.

Alex Jones (03:02:46.000)

I mean, admit that she's good looking guy. I admit it. You know she

Unknown Speaker (03:02:52.000)

watch her because I'm still going on. So this is

Dan (03:02:55.000)

over. This is legit flirting to the bit is done like if you watch the video this though Alex is leaning closer to her. Oh, is she in studio? Yeah, his little boy body language is getting real like he's like, I hope she brought her gun with her because she might need it. So at this point, she has just said that she can't watch Rachel Maddow because she gets all hot watching it. Yeah. Listen to Alex's response this in any other environment would be sexual harassment.

Unknown Speaker (03:03:24.000)

You're attracted to Mr. Manna Oh my god. We're gonna have to compete. You are actually attracted to him. Yeah, he's taking me off for steaks later

Alex Jones (03:03:38.000)

we gotta get serious here. With Bill and the Neal. Bill is calling from Tennessee Alex Jones predictions not happening. Go ahead.

Unknown Speaker (03:03:48.000)

That's it. I missed you off and on for a couple of years now. And so far, I mean, let's see. Where the FEMA camps Alex, there's gonna be your guns Alex Jade Helm, you pipe that nothing happened. I'm sorry. I mean, you just consistently fear monger and failed. And no, Bilderberg, nothing happens. You're continually saying that nothing ever happens. And before you say as far as profit, that's just easy way out.

Alex Jones (03:04:17.000)

Are you a joke? Caller trying to make me look good. Are you serious?

Unknown Speaker (03:04:22.000)

I'm serious.

Alex Jones (03:04:24.000)

Well, we never said let me talk you mentioned tonight was just excuse me for a moment. Yeah. It was network right. Coming up. You said that I was saying Jade Helm was going to be a takeover. Or you imply that I never said that. That's a construct of my boyfriend. Mr. Mandel. You expand upon that with a bunch of other statements about where's the FEMA camps since I first started exposing emergency centers in the mid 90s. When we were confirmed it through classified sources about the reeducation camps under the different programs like a civilian inmate labor camp program that was declassified in 99. Now they have released the army manuals for the emergency centers establishment system, where it admits the plans under emergency to round up political dissidents, and put especially in forced labor camps. You can read that@army.mil We wrote articles about it linked. We're trying to fight them getting the guns, they've taken the guns everywhere else in the world, but a handful of nations. They admit they want our guns. They're talking about taking the guns away from Social Security recipients. Now, that's mainstream news. The borders are wide open outside of law, they're shutting off power plants outside of law that's cold signing us on to trillions and derivatives outside of law. They're delivering armored vehicles, a local department saying it's for the veterans and gun owners. And I mean, look, we've stalemated the enemy. 95% They're kind of still winning in a few places, but we're in a DEATH BATTLE.

Unknown Speaker (03:05:57.000)

And they've done mass confiscation, illegal hunt confiscation of guns in Canada as well.

Alex Jones (03:06:03.000)

This guy calls in and says nothing's happening. And lash was in a satisfied way. Like I've been proven wrong. I mean, it's like declaring that Mark Twain was dead when he was. I mean, you're a joke, Bill. I

Jordan (03:06:17.000)

mean, are you for real? Is Mark Twain dead?

Alex Jones (03:06:19.000)

Are you for real? Who can deny We're descending into tyranny?

Unknown Speaker (03:06:24.000)

The Tyranny? Yeah, Alex is everywhere. It's tyranny. Look behind us tyranny. Again, being the camp of us. We're where are they? Alex? What who's been putting FEMA camps out?

Alex Jones (03:06:36.000)

You say you've been listening for years, you can type in and reeducation camps when you will infowars.com. And then you can link through to army.mil and read it and then you can read mainstream news articles that came out a month after confirming our report. We broke the secret documents from the FBI, state police, federal marshals, seven years ago, National Guard plan to play Coast Guard and demonize and go after patriots and people still say that's fake. I mean, the truth is, we're not lying here. You're hoping people don't go look up these army manuals. You're just targeting people you think are stupid. Let me give you the field manual. Let me just give you one of the field manuals. Okay, FM three dash three, nine dot 40. Are you able to raise enough

Jordan (03:07:22.000)

money? That's it up? Alex.

Alex Jones (03:07:25.000)

We got out to answer my questions. I'm gonna put up because this is serious stuff. Okay. Don't act like a weasel punk. Put it back on screen for employees, FM three dash three, nine dot 40 internment resettlement operations, February 2010, leet. In 2012, the army first denied it then confirmed it two weeks later.

Dan (03:07:46.000)

So that is a wonder

Jordan (03:07:46.000)

Dan, if you may have read these.

Dan (03:07:51.000)

I haven't read the whole thing. Because it's 372 pages long. It's a big field manual. But I have skimmed through it. I've read a bunch of relevant portions of it. I've also read the things that people have written about it found the passages that they think are really scary, right? And they're not where are the FEMA camps? There aren't any. But this, this manual, this FM three dot dash three, nine dot 40.

Jordan (03:08:18.000)

is I love their morning shows they have a great Zoo Crew.

Dan (03:08:21.000)

Well, it's a manual for operations overseas. Okay. And the reason that they were pissed off that it got leaked is that now it's public information. And people in other countries know what the Army's operating procedures are. Right. And there's a bunch of stuff in it about, essentially what it is, is a huge document about best practices is the way I would put it. And they describe the steps and the chain of command that's involved with taking hostile populations in foreign countries, with cooperation from the host governments to to sort out huge groups of people. And in camp though, there are also unfortunately, and this is why Alex is freaked out a couple paragraphs throughout the entire thing. 372 pages, there's a couple paragraphs about the need the possible need for using internment in the United States. Oh, that's not good in the event of a massive terrorist attack or a natural disaster. They're not laying the groundwork for the the government coming in and interning dissidents or anything like that. They're just talking about applications of when military operation would be appropriate within the boundaries of the United States. Right. And in cases of massive terrorist attacks. And in cases, like the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, there were the need of people who were trained in like, because say what you want about the Superdome. It was right and very poorly, but that is essentially internment that is managing masses of population in a way that can be can be organized that can be decently run. So it's not fucking chaos. Yeah, absolutely, because it would have been otherwise it would have been absolute fucking chaos. And it all it still was kind of chaos because they, they didn't have firm groundwork in place like a lot of this stuff that's in this field manual. Wasn't there, right at the point of Hurricane Katrina? Yeah, so they didn't have as many. So here we go. This is this is from an article about this field manual. The Field Manual also broadly discusses a variety of psychological operations for use in managing detainees, including identifying malcontents, trained agitators, and political leaders in detainees communities in order to remove or reduce antagonistic attitudes. passages like these reflect lessons learned from the operation of internment facilities in Iraq, where psychological operations officers performed an intelligence function in managing camps that held as many as 1010s of 1000s of detainees at their peak at the beginning of the Iraq War. And even through the 2008 surge. There were few guidelines and regulations to help soldiers conduct these massive detention operations. According to a former military officer who conducted detainee operations in internment facilities in Iraq, quote, I would have loved to have this field manual five years ago, he said, the vast majority of guidance in the manual is intended for use in foreign theaters. He said, noting that only a handful of paragraphs from the 326 page manual address domestic operations of any kind. An army spokesman, speaking on background, said that the current spate of online postings have taken passages from the manual significantly out of context, conflating wartime operational guidance, such as the psychological operations with peacetime operations in which a limited number of the manuals principles would be applied in US soil in exceptional cases, such as during relief efforts, such as after Hurricane Katrina. Right. So the problem is that if you if you really take what's said in this manual, it's not that scary. It's not really it's certainly not a blueprint for interning US citizens,

Jordan (03:12:11.000)

right. But if you are, there's somebody if you are somebody who is of the opinion that all of these disasters would be manufactured,

Dan (03:12:21.000)

right? Like or Drina says whether weapons Exactly, yeah.

Jordan (03:12:25.000)

Or and that the government would then use those as an excuse to in turn everybody, then yes, that does sound scary problem,

Dan (03:12:33.000)

reaction solution, everything. Everything reinforces the last Yeah. Yeah. And I get why Alex, I mean, because we know that Alex doesn't know how to read. And we know that he doesn't know how to integrate knowledge, new bit new information into his brain. I definitely get why he would read something like this and be like, well, here's the proof. Here's the smoking gun. We do it all along. Yeah. And it's not accurate. It's not it's not real. It's not true. I mean, the thing the document is true. But his interpretation and his use of it is not. There are a lot of really fucked up things in the document, though, if you go through it, because they're talking about wartime internment, right. So there's stuff about like, binding people and, you know, silencing people by gagging them and stuff like that. But that's

Jordan (03:13:20.000)

talking about fully on climate changes side. I think we're bad. Yeah, I think we're bad for the word stuff that's

Dan (03:13:25.000)

kind of difficult to read. And, you know, I'm not I don't support a lot of it, but some of it is kind of how you have to run things. Anyway, Alex is wrong about this. Yeah. And this guy is about to point out, like what Alex does, and that is that he takes a kernel of something true, and then lies about it. Yeah. And Alex's response to it is fucking perfect. Okay, it's so perfect. That I mean, there's just no way to get through to him. It's, it's fascinating.

Alex Jones (03:13:54.000)

That was covered by major newspapers. Are you saying that isn't real?

Unknown Speaker (03:13:58.000)

Every time you have something like that, I research it, you take a small bit of truth. It's a small bit of information entered into a huge thing and usually end up being wrong.

Alex Jones (03:14:07.000)

Okay, that is total bill. Just like Planned Parenthood said none of the videos were done. They weren't selling the body parts. Oh, the the Planned Parenthood selling the baby parts.

Unknown Speaker (03:14:19.000)

If you're talking about joining a research thing if they do

Jesse Ventura (03:14:23.000)

why are they so body parts?

Alex Jones (03:14:26.000)

Because they make money?

Unknown Speaker (03:14:29.000)

No, they don't tell bipartite they started research relationships. They pay for storage and transportation. Sure

Alex Jones (03:14:35.000)

mill. Are you a social worker?

Jordan (03:14:38.000)

So Bill, Are you a social worker?

Dan (03:14:40.000)

This is crazy. This next little chunk here is crazy. Because Alex has asked him if he's a social worker. And I don't know what Alex is getting at. But he's really fixated as that being a way to discredit him. Just credit this

Jordan (03:14:57.000)

call somebody somebody helping people out All right, gotcha. So this is like this is somebody whose job is to help people out is the quickest way to describe it. Well, you know, he has

Dan (03:15:08.000)

like this distrust of psychiatry and psychology, right? So I mean, I kind of get where it comes from, but man, this is weird. That's exactly

Jesse Ventura (03:15:15.000)

relevant. Alex, that's my question. Why would they steal money?

Alex Jones (03:15:18.000)

I'm gonna ask you one more time. Are you a social worker? That's irrelevant. Irrelevant. Okay, what is your profession? No, I just hear this. You're in your own little power paradigm where you're ruling over everything. And you think you control reality. And you think you can run a Svengali on me? And gaslight me and you can't do it. You can't do it to our audience. Listen, I'm gonna ask you again. Are you you work for a state government?

Jesse Ventura (03:15:43.000)

That's irrelevant. Alex was

Unknown Speaker (03:15:45.000)

irrelevant. You know what? Let's just see

Alex Jones (03:15:47.000)

if I'm right with my little hunch here. Tell me right now, Mr. Big brain. Are you or have you ever been a social worker? No.

Dan (03:15:57.000)

So that's great. News. But you a big dumb it. But see, do you see what he's doing? Yeah, he's trying to invalidate this guy's very real argument. That is you take a kernel of truth and then lie about right. And he's like, oh, what you're doing is you're trying to sound really smart. And you're a social worker, you're living in your own parallel reality, right? That's what you do. Well,

Jordan (03:16:22.000)

you're trying to gaslight me, it coming from Alex Jones is the craziest sentence

Dan (03:16:29.000)

I've ever all he's doing all this guy who's calling in is doing is making a very valid point. Yeah. And Alex knows that that point is the most dangerous point for any of his listeners to hear, right? Because that does make them want to actually look into the things he's talking about. If the argument that Alex Jones lie is about the sources that he uses, is introduced into the conversation, then that hold you can look it up argument doesn't work, right? Because then someone might and that's the only thing that he fears. Yeah, because he's walking on a thin sheet of ice, right? And that's gonna crack it. So he has to fight back aggressively.

Jordan (03:17:05.000)

And he does so by changing the subject entirely your social work going after the person as opposed to responding to the argument?

Dan (03:17:13.000)

Absolutely. And then he ate

Jordan (03:17:14.000)

classic move he straight out of FM 3.09 Dash 443. Absolutely. Were in and that was declassified. We're in the government says,

Dan (03:17:28.000)

What do you do that was that secret? What do you do that was that secret program? What do you do? That was the secret program that Dr. Group was involved in? Yeah, I'm sure it was. So he spells it out as much. Here in the end of this clip. He says basically, we you are just trying to make my audience you're trying to lie to my audience. And it is just a knee jerk reactionary defense mechanism, right? It's pathetic.

Jordan (03:17:55.000)

It is kind of like, Why doesn't he answer that question? Or does he feel like he just by saying money? That was it?

Dan (03:18:02.000)

Oh, you mean the Planned Parenthood? Well, yeah. Because he's dumb.

Jordan (03:18:05.000)

But I mean, he what he really want like he says, Well, I mean, of course, he says that he wants to debate things, but he just cannot be challenged.

Dan (03:18:15.000)

No, but I actually think that he thinks that Planned Parenthood is making a killing off selling these baby parts. Okay, I think that is a piece of it.

Jordan (03:18:23.000)

But that doesn't make any sense. No, no, planned it Planned Parenthood is making a killing. Then go ahead, government defund them. They're just gonna sell more baby parts, man, it's a scam. They're gonna make up that they're gonna make up that slack. See, his argument would be that

Dan (03:18:41.000)

the globalists get spiritual power based on the killing of all these babies, and the satanists that magically appeared any anti abortion? Right, right. They feed off the energy of dead babies, but he definitely can't use that in an argument with a guy. No, Planned Parenthood itself is just making money on it. So there it's there. Gotcha. Gotcha. But it's just he's so fun, dumb. Anyway, let's play the rest of this

Alex Jones (03:19:03.000)

show. You're not a government worker? No. I'm interested, what is your profession? Why is that relevant? Because I just wonder how stupid you can be.

Unknown Speaker (03:19:15.000)

I can be every time you every time you read something else on the air, I have gone and researched it. And usually it ends up being one point that's

Alex Jones (03:19:20.000)

a lie, to target new listeners PCR to do the truth. Now we put up a full manual that talks about processing people with their social security numbers and families. And I've got footage myself shot and countless other videos of people screaming I'm an American, don't put me in the camp. Don't take my guns in videos, and the police showing the EM wrap tank.

Dan (03:19:45.000)

Those videos that he has are not people being put into camps. There are people who believe his narrative screaming that stuff. Yeah, I was gonna say they're not that's just people screaming. Yeah. They're not on the way to the camp. It's not proof of anything. No. And then also the next thing he's gonna say is about this Sheriff from Yeah, saying that they have a lot of armored vehicles and what have you, and that the main threat that they're concerned about is constitutionalists. Yeah, they are worried about right wing militias. Yeah. And Alex takes that to mean, they're coming for our guns court. And it's when he's arguing with this guy who's accusing him of taking kernels of truth and lying about them. He's doing exactly that. Yeah, it's fascinating. But also, it's just turn off new listeners. Yeah, that was the weird thing. But that's the defense mechanism.

Unknown Speaker (03:20:35.000)

What new listeners?

Dan (03:20:36.000)

I don't know. But if you are a new listener, and you hear that you're like, Oh, he's used to this. This happens all that they must Yeah, of course, these globalists want to discredit him. So they have these these people call them these, these social workers who won't admit that their social workers

Jordan (03:20:48.000)

call Right, right social worker. Yeah, it's that's how dumb you can be. Yeah.

Dan (03:20:53.000)

And then again, personal attacks, he gets to more of them here in a minute,

Alex Jones (03:20:57.000)

are for the American people. Now, is that not true? either?

Unknown Speaker (03:21:00.000)

Are your friends training exercises they do with their?

Alex Jones (03:21:03.000)

Their training to take on veterans and gun owners? And they say the armored vehicles are for us. What does that mean? Jack ash?

Unknown Speaker (03:21:14.000)

He has gone on nice.

Alex Jones (03:21:15.000)

Oh, no, you are a stubborn Jackass in the Bible that talks about people acting like a

Unknown Speaker (03:21:21.000)

they think you're giving this guy you were acting like Ash. Alright. I'll quote, Satoshi Nakamoto, who invented Bitcoin? And he said, If you don't get it, I don't have time for you. Great. That's it.

Jordan (03:21:32.000)

That's not good. I mean,

Unknown Speaker (03:21:35.000)

think about the world. Oh, of

Unknown Speaker (03:21:36.000)

course. I mean, there's loads of people who feel that way. And it's, it's a defense mechanism answer. I mean, people don't have to, you know, people know,

Alex Jones (03:21:45.000)

they used to tell me that there was no such thing is the NSA 20 years ago, no such thing as Echelon I'd have major whistleblowers on. And people would say, that wasn't the former producer of Nightline. That wasn't the former NSA officer. And you don't have to believe everything. Now. It's all out the open proven right again. And again, he is you don't

Unknown Speaker (03:22:04.000)

have to believe everything that anybody says by you. There must be if you don't understand that there's something deeply wrong with most things that we are told. Then you're living in a fog of your own illusion. Okay. Sure. Well,

Alex Jones (03:22:18.000)

I mean, I don't need to call him names. Yeah. I mean, I'm intellectual enough to come up with terms for it. He acts like a baby and just put out this info. He is a jacket.

Unknown Speaker (03:22:26.000)

I still think he's a social worker, just from the way he was speaking. Oh, that's why he didn't answer the question. Because you don't want to say yes, you'd rather say

Alex Jones (03:22:34.000)

he was lying. I think he's just want to say yes, I've just learned that. They're not all like that. Some of them are nice, but I've run into that. I've just learned that a little self satisfied thing like they're in control. They talk real soft to you. Like you're a joke. It's all condescension, or whatever, but I'm guessing you're very familiar with that tone. And I'll say boy or girl father, mother, husband, wife, I'll never say purple penguin. Yeah, there's something do you got them they want to control everything like cult leaders is there's a man because they're building a giant crap hole. You people produce. You know what, and we're sick of you. We we don't want to be led by you. We don't like you. We don't like your labels go to hell. Sorry. Go ahead.

Unknown Speaker (03:23:17.000)

When when America's throwing people like Ross Ulbricht in jail for starting a website while and giving him a harsher sentence than people who have killed multiple people.

Dan (03:23:27.000)

That's the guy's who's that that's the guy who had the Silk Road. Okay, all right. Yeah,

Jordan (03:23:35.000)

that's the guy when you're the largest drug trafficker in history. They're just putting you in jail for it.

Dan (03:23:42.000)

And admittedly, I don't agree with drug laws. No, I agree, admittedly. But I don't think that guy was innocent. He also tried to get assassin to kill so Yeah,

Jordan (03:23:52.000)

exactly. So part of the Silk Road was being able to hire us as it Yeah. So

Dan (03:23:57.000)

great, great, good point,

Unknown Speaker (03:23:59.000)

raped multiple people. We know that there's an agenda of oppression and control in America. And the government is scared of independent thought,

Alex Jones (03:24:07.000)

candidate extradite people that said the Holocaust didn't happen. Now, I may not agree with what they're saying. These people get put in solitary confinement for decades in Germany, or jungle and people. Because someone said something political that candidate didn't agree with. That's a tyranny

Unknown Speaker (03:24:25.000)

app. And the the interesting thing is Israel themselves denied the Holocaust for the first few years after it occurred because they were embarrassed. So there was a whole portion of Jews just denied that it ever happened. And nobody was prosecuted for that. I mean, this is we still have to adhere to even one way or low on

Alex Jones (03:24:48.000)

the Holocaust, for sure, saying 5,099,000 died, then they can show the recipe for everything viable versus free speech. One you don't say that?

Unknown Speaker (03:24:57.000)

Yeah, it's terrible. It's dead in Canada. It's happening. You guys still have the Constitution and the Bill of Rights protecting you in some cases, but it's it's being dug brigaded to a huge extent, Hey, you

Alex Jones (03:25:09.000)

want to host the next segment? I've got to go to a business meeting. But you're you can come in and actually take these phone calls. Yeah. And, and then covernews has an 18 minute segment. But right now let's go to Neil in Ohio. Neil, you're on the air or I'm sorry. That's a male name.

Dan (03:25:27.000)

Ah. So Alex Jones just lets her take over the show. It's not great. That's hilarious. Yeah. He doesn't have a business. Maybe he's just pissed off that this caller called in and ruined his fun. Yeah, he was having a great time flirting with this young lady. Yeah, this guy calls in and he's totally right. Alex is flummoxed as to get super mad and attack him. Yep. To show his alpha male dominance for this lady doesn't quite work out the way he wants it to start calling names calls him a jackass calls him stupid. Then after he gets him off the phone and the danger is gone. I don't have to descend to name calling. Even though I just did yeah, he's he's a mess. Jesus. What a mess. So this is the end of our investigation. Still no real evolution on I love

Jordan (03:26:13.000)

I love her pulling out that quote of like, if you don't get it, I don't have time for you is such a dumb.

Dan (03:26:20.000)

That's so do you remember the K in our salon?

Jordan (03:26:23.000)

Hey, wait, hold on a second. Are you telling me you don't know how to add? If you don't get it? I don't have time for you. Four year old Get the fuck out of here.

Dan (03:26:31.000)

There was a comic named our salon who was famous around the Chicago parts are saying if you get it, you get it if you don't, yeah, yeah. But also, remember, that's a really bad mentality to have when your position is that you are one of the only people who knows truth. Right? And that if everyone doesn't get on board with your truth, we're all gonna die. It's really bad to be like, if you don't I don't have time for you.

Jordan (03:26:55.000)

Listen, if you know if you don't want to be part of the you know, defeating the threat that we can only defeat if you're a part of it. I don't want you

Dan (03:27:03.000)

especially when he's spent so much of his time being like, I don't want to fight with people. I just want to help people. Yeah, I'm just I'm just here to open minds, right? Fuck you. You don't agree with me? Fuck you.

Jordan (03:27:14.000)

All he wants to do is fight with people. Totally. And he

Dan (03:27:17.000)

wants guns and dueling. Yeah, yeah. He wants you want someone to be like, Alex, you didn't read this thing you said you read? I demand satisfied. Yeah, exactly. I challenge you

Jordan (03:27:25.000)

to a duel that would Yeah, that would be his perfect world.

Dan (03:27:29.000)

Oh, it's good to see that's in a duel. There's no doubt I can't draw fast.

Jordan (03:27:32.000)

I can duck. Okay.

Dan (03:27:35.000)

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Jordan (03:27:41.000)

Oh, yeah. Do you know what else is cool? Are Twitter at knowledge underscore fight?

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Dan (03:27:56.000)

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Jordan (03:28:03.000)

gonna have to get a tripod and an iPhone. Yeah, all at the same time. We're

Dan (03:28:07.000)

gonna have also new episodes. That's what they want you to think me and Marty DeRosa is conspiracy Podcast coming back behind the paywall excellent only for donators, so get excited for that. Gonna dangle the carrot somehow. Boy, our next episode will the next new episode will be about the Denver Airport.

Jordan (03:28:25.000)

Oh, fuck yes. So that's this craziest Space Camp?

Dan (03:28:29.000)

Not really know. But anyway, it

Jordan (03:28:31.000)

is a suspicious airport though. I'm pretty. I'm pretty stoked about it. It's not that suspicious. Now. It's super suspicious anyway. Have you seen that horse? Yeah, I've seen the horse. Do you know what that horse is? Fun. Yeah, it is. Do you know what's great about that horse?

Dan (03:28:44.000)

What's it it's still alive? That's true.

Jordan (03:28:46.000)

Do you know who's not still alive?

Dan (03:28:48.000)

Anyway? You're doing the wrong version of this.

Jordan (03:28:50.000)

Oh shit. That's right. Which did we switch to?

Dan (03:28:52.000)

We switch to saying fuck you genre. Oh, okay.

Jordan (03:28:54.000)

God dammit. I screwed that up. Fuck you. John Rapoport, Andy in

Alex Jones (03:28:59.000)

Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding.

Unknown Speaker (03:29:03.000)

So Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.