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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Damn and Jordan, I am sweating

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knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray

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I have great respect for knowledgefight

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knowledgefight

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys

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saying we are the bad guys

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knowledgefight

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Damn and Jordan, knowledgefight

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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her

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I need, I need money

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Riddle her, riddle her, riddle her

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Andy and Kansas, Andy and, Andy and

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Stop it, Andy and, Andy and Kansas

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Andy, Andy, it's time to pray

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a system caller, I'm a huge fan

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I love your room

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knowledgefight

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N-N-N-N-N-Knowledgefight.com

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I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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We're a couple dudes, I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Oh indeed we are Dan

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Jordan

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Dan, quick question

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot for today?

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My bright spot today Jordan is

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chocolate graham crackers

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Chocolate graham crackers

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Very underrated

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Are you talking fully dipped or are you talking the layer of chocolate on top of the graham

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No, I'm talking about the graham crackers that are chocolate

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Oh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay

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They're not like actual milk chocolate

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Right, right, right

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They're like the chocolate graham crackers

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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Yeah, underrated

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Underrated?

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Yeah

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Straight up chocolate graham crackers?

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Yes, absolutely

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Alright

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They're not too sweet

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Okay

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Um, and they're not, I don't know, I just like chocolate graham crackers

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You like chocolate graham crackers?

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I got some recently and I thought that they were really good and I'd forgotten how good they were

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I can't remember the last time I had one

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Honestly, you know, you used to pour like

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Or you, I used to pour like that

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You'd get that handful of teddy grams or whatever and drop it in that thing of milk and just practically drink it like cereal

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Yeah, it's kind of like that except for the, you know, it's like those teddy grams

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Yeah

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But in brick form

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I don't even know if I've had a brick one

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Oh man, you gotta get some bricks

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Alright, that's what I'm gonna do

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Um, so what about you? What's your bright spot?

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My bright spot is the new album by Isaiah Rashad

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It's his first album in five years and it's fantastic and yeah

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The Sun's Tyrade was one of my favorite albums of 2016

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It had an absolute destruction of a verse by Kendrick and it was just fantastic

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And then this new album is really, really great too

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I am very happy with it

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Nice

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Tennessee represent

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Sounds like the chocolate graham crackers of albums

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And a little bit, yeah

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It's just good

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Yeah

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So Jordan, today we have a re-release of an episode which is something I don't think we've done ever

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I don't think so either

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Up to this point

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Yeah

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I think sometimes we've said, hey, go check back out this episode or whatever from the past

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But today, I thought, here's the deal

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Yeah

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On our last episode on Wednesday, we discussed how we were going to check in with Alex as he goes to Sioux Falls

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Right

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For this dumb cyber conference

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Right, and obviously we're going to have to follow that story under martial law

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Uh-huh, because martial law was going to be unveiled on the 11th, on Wednesday, which didn't end up happening

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No, that's true

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Um, to my... Alex didn't go

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Of course not, of course not, it's going to be a disaster

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Yeah, he's been in studio this whole week and so like, that didn't happen

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Has he even like, mentioned Mike Lindell and all of that stuff?

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I mean, maybe a little bit, but like, not enough to pique my fancy

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Right

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Um, and so like, you know, that's a disappointment

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I was looking forward to another Alex on the Road situation

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Of course

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And I was looking forward to him going to Mike Lindell's big Comic-Con because I spent a good bit of time watching his stream

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Yeah

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Just to prepare myself, to give myself the context that I needed to discuss Alex's inevitable...

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It was such a waste of time, it was unbelievably bad

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Oh, why was it a waste of time? You had to listen to him prove his case and obviously the Supreme Court will be voting 9-0

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Absolutely 9-0

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By the end of today, I would imagine

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I think today is the deadline

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Today is the deadline

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I just... I don't know, man, the problem that I had was that, you know, I'd seen a couple of funny clips on Twitter

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I was excited for whatever train wreck was gonna happen and there was nothing, it was just long stretches of...

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Just saying numbers

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I got nothing here, man, it's so boring

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I'm gonna watch a 72 hour PowerPoint presentation

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Yes!

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Yes, that's what it is, isn't it?

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Yes!

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Weird guy with an American flag bow tie talking like, what's happening?

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I would rather the guy from the 90s who found a way to get free grant money from the government and wore the suit and did those commercials

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I would do a 72 hour how to get free grant money from him

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We might... I wonder about that guy

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I wonder if his history...

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Is he okay?

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Not that part

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Oh, okay

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I wonder if, like, he actually helped people

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Anyway, let's not dwell on that

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Okay

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So I, you know, it was a bummer, Alex has not done anything really worthwhile

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And the time that I would have spent, you know, just like being like, hey, let's do a past episode

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Was spent watching Mike Lindell's stupid conference

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And...

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God damn it, MyPillow ruined us again

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There was a small part of me that was thinking like, okay, well, let's find some of this good audio from the MyPillow stuff

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But you can find that if you want to search on Twitter and such

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You can find other people who have posted, you know, the stuff that's fun

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Right

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I don't think we need to pirate their content or anything

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Fair

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So one of the things that I did see come up is that it's being discussed

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That the source of the information behind Mike Lindell's conspiracies

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Of course

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Is one Dennis Montgomery

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Our old pal DM

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Dennis, Dennis, Dennis

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So it turns out that not only is Dennis Montgomery the source apparently of this information that Mike Lindell has

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Yeah

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He also is the guy who claims that he created Hammer and Scorecard

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Yes

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The things that are behind like Sidney Powell's, a lot of her conspiracies

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I like taking credit for a multi-billion dollar lawsuit

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That did not get thrown out this week

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Another bit of important news

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Another bit of trouble

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And so one of the things that I thought when I heard that is like, he's done it again

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This Dennis Montgomery guy, he is low-key one of the most destructive forces in like conspiracy theory con shit

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He's a whack-a-mole too, it's like you think he's down and then all of a sudden he pops back up behind Mike Lindell's 72 hour symposium

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Like what are you supposed to do with this asshole?

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He's a name that most people don't know

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Of course not

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But he's fucked up so much

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He's, it's not even like he's a behind the scenes guy

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It's almost like he just finds a way to get into the right situation, give the wrong information to the right people and then we're all fucked

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Yeah, yeah, so the episode today that we're going to release is our 25th episode from 2017

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Oh boy

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Yeah, it's a ways back and what this is, I was thinking about it, it's like well okay Dennis Montgomery is coming back up

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We could talk about this again or we already did

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And I don't think a lot of people, you know, some people go back and they listen to all the old episodes, some people don't

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And I think that a lot of people probably haven't heard this and you know, it's Dennis Montgomery

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Yeah

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If anybody had listened to this ahead of time

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We would never have been here

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Maybe Mike Lindell or Sidney Powell if they had listened

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If they listened to our show

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How many people would not be getting sued if they just listened to our show?

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Could have saved you 1.6 billion dollars

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You just known, uh oh, uh oh, is this Dennis Montgomery?

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This is where we're gonna get in trouble

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I do believe that in the episode I say if I saw Dennis Montgomery I would run the other direction

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That would have been good advice for all you dumbasses

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Oh man, it's so funny

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Yeah, and you know, I think what you have is over time people have become so gullible I guess

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That somebody like Dennis Montgomery could get, well way back, you know, could get somebody like

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Joe Arpaio to go along with him because Joe Arpaio was trying to beat a case

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Right, right, okay, crimes

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Maybe I can get this shifty weirdo to come up with a conspiracy that I can use to my advantage

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Right

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And it doesn't work, you know, it doesn't work then

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And everyone's like, eh, fuck this noise

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Everybody is, like, the world is so weird now and Mike Lindell has so much money to throw around at

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nothing now that all of this, like, so much of the quote-unquote proof and the lingering of the

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election conspiracies comes back to this guy who should just be discounted out of hand

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Yeah, you know, when the going gets weird, the weird refuse to die and continue to pop up

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wherever it is that they can, like fucking zombies trying to kill the rest of us all

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It's wild

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Yeah

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So I was listening back to this episode and just because I felt like, you know, I don't want to

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check back in, I think that there's a couple things I want to say before we end up playing it

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Mm-hmm. One is that this was the first time that I really tried on our show to get into a topic

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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You know, like, and I can tell, like, listening back to it as, like, I did not have a lot of

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practice in doing that

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Sure

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I don't think that, I wouldn't say that I have a cringy response to it, but it definitely shows

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that I had not done a whole lot of that

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Yeah, well, I mean, that's good. Five years later, you should be better at this

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You'd hope

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Yeah

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And then the second thing is, you know, on that same kind of idea, I think that there's a little

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bit of language that we wouldn't use today that is thrown around

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And I think sensibilities are slightly different

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And I was considering going back and, like, cutting out stuff

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Sure

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And what have you, but I don't, I feel like that would be slightly dishonest

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No, we were who we were, and, you know, part of that is coming from a far more ignorant place

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You know, back in 2017, we hadn't even really started the show, or, you know, we were 25

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episodes in, but as far as our listener base, there was just, you know, the few people who

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lived in Chicago, really, that were around

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So now that I'm not in such an isolated place, you know, only being around comics, only being

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around all of those people, and have learned a shit ton

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Yeah

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Yeah

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I think some of it, it was like, yeah, to hear, it was like, ugh

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Yeah

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But at the same time, it does represent, show some modicum of growth, and I think that that

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is something you kind of have to just take on the chin a little bit

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Yeah, yep

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Um, and then the other thing, too, I noticed is, like, having a bit more fun back then

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I didn't know too much, I mean, yeah

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I think that before the world became what it is now, it was a bit easier to have fun

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talking about these subjects

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Yeah

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It's really, it was really remarkable to go back and see the, like, I don't know, goofiness

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Yeah

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Like, you would interrupt so much more, and I was so much more into it, because

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we weren't living through a year-and-a-half, two-year-long pandemic that could have mostly

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been averted

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah

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Yeah, it was weird

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It's funny that back then I predicted that Trump would try and overthrow the government

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and become a dictator, and then when it happened, I was surprised

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It was very strange, I was, eh, I wasn't that surprised

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But, yeah, it's different now, though

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It would be like me predicting, well, Dennis Montgomery's gonna be trouble in the future

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I'd still be surprised that anybody took him seriously again

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That's fair, that's fair

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And yet, here we are

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Yeah

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Holy shit, what a, what a bummer

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Something so easy to avoid, Dennis Montgomery

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Oh, man, you know, it's weird when somebody has put together a decades-long body of work

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that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, this is someone you should not trust

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Yeah

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And then five years later, people are still like, I'm gonna give this shifty weirdo a

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shot, you know, every, every group needs to have a loose cannon

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I mean, I would say that even, like, taking, leaving aside whatever we did, or this episode,

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or anything like that

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Totally

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I think there was plenty of public information at that point not to take this guy seriously

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Yeah

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But people are addicted to it, they're addicted to fake whistleblowers, they're addicted to

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tales of intrigue and, and, like, Jason Bourne types

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It's kind of amazing that, tell me what I want to hear will often override any and all information

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Yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty, pretty

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Sad, it's a real bummer

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Yes it is

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Yep

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So we're gonna get to that and that, that episode will be coming up in just a few minutes

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Uh, coming up, but there's one other thing I wanted to just discuss, little news item

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that I think is important

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I don't know if you saw the Rand Paul news

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I do

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Would you like to debate him on these stocks?

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I would love to debate Rand Paul, it is day 285 since I have officially demanded a debate

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with Rand Paul

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Would you like to debate Rand Paul about the ethics of his wife owning stock in the company

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that makes remdesivir while he goes on an anti-vaccination crusade?

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If that is a debate

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An anti-lockdown

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If there's a debate, it should last one sentence

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Unethical, it's one word, unethical

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Dicey

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Mark Dicey Clay

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Yeah

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That's what we're dealing with

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Pillar of integrity Rand Paul

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Yeah, so I saw that and immediately thought of you and thought of how much fun that would be to debate

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I want to debate him

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I really do

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God, that would be hilarious

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So yeah, folks, here we are

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Please enjoy this episode from the archives

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And I don't know, like, you know, based on the times that we record this, maybe

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on Thursday or Friday Alex will go to Sioux Falls

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True

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For the aftermath

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If I were him, I would stay away from this thing

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People showing up at ground zero of 9-11?

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Yes, survey the damage

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We'll check in on Monday

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But I hope you all have a good weekend and we will catch you on the other side

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding

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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work

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I love you

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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We are back for yet another episode where we sit down and drink a little bit of wine

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and discuss what's going on in the wacky wacky world of Alex Jones

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Is there a twist to that?

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There is, there's a Chubby Checker featuring the Fat Boys level twist

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All right, we're done

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I've already used Chubby Checker once as a reference

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Yeah, no

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But I realized he did the twist with the Fat Boys later

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It's too late for us

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All right, the twist is that I watch tons of Infowars and Alex Jones in particular

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And I do not watch any

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Not at all, not at IOTA, except I did just trick you into watching

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I tried, you tried to get me to watch some and then David Knight appeared

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like a fucking demon from beneath the the boring sixth level of hell

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Like the world's most boring hobo coming on TV

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I did find out he's got quite a bit of gray in his beard, I didn't realize that

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Oh tons

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Yeah

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We're recording this on Sunday and we wanted to check in because Alex had promoted online

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that he's about to drop a huge Pizzagate bombshell

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And so we wanted to check in on what that was, that's how I tricked you into watching

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So far at press time, no bombshell

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Nothing

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So we will monitor that and keep you up to date

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Uh, generally

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We probably won't

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Nope, not at all

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I'm still standing by my former theory that I espoused on the last podcast

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That is, he got threatened with a lawsuit

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Yeah, I think we can stick with that one

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I'm not sure that anything that he says today could shake my belief in that

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No, he was definitely, he was definitely at least served some sort of papers

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Maybe a subpoena to, you know, give shit

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Don't destroy any of your evidence

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, something like that

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He was shook

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He was, yeah

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Almost as much as when he lost all of his money

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He was way more shook

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He was very shook

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So today what we're gonna do is we're gonna go over

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You know, this is going to be a special expose episode

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Oh boy

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Generally what we do is I take a day in the life of Alex Jones

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And I play the clips and we discuss where he's incredibly wrong about everything

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Right

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Today what we're going to be doing is breaking down the entirety of last week

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This is unprecedented

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And a busted ass narrative that Alex is promoting

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And the results of my incredibly deep research into why Alex Jones

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I feel like he has to know that he's just being a complete liar

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All right

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He has to know

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I have gotten about 30 texts from you over this past week about how intense your research is

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And I just wonder

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I've been

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I wonder

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I've been reading court documents

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Why?

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What is wrong with you?

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Judges decisions

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I want you to be okay

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That's, this is now, this is eventually just gonna turn into me wishing well on you

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No, but see the thing is I'm thrilled

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I know, that's one of the problems

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I had an amazingly great time reading up on all this stuff

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Okay

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I mean some of the stuff that I found is like legitimately horrifying

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Right

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Because there's individuals that we're going to discuss

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And you're probably aware of maybe one or two of them

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Jesus

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Sure, he's going to come in the mix

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Franklin Delano Roosevelt

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He keeps being referred to on Infowars

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Franklin Delano Roosevelt

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Really?

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Yeah

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Oh boy

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I think it's an accident but I'm not sure

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It could be a play on his cousin?

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Uh the one that he married?

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Cousin wife?

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Yeah

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Possibly

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But look, there's a guy, at least one who's gonna come up who

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We all know who he is, we've heard of him before

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But the amount of research that I did really highlighted how much worse of a person he is

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Okay

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So that was not fun, reading some of the stories about him

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But

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Who?

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We're gonna get to it

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Why are you teasing that?

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Because look

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Now all I can think about is who it might be

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And my first thought is OJ for some reason and I don't think that's right

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No, we watch that documentary, we know how bad a guy he is

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But look

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He's not a good man

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I know I'm doing too much teasing but we have to start out our episodes as we try to do each time

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With an out of context drop that has nothing to do with what we're going to be talking about from Alex

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Gallup is back to fake polls

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They have key demographics, key phone numbers they can call

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Or they can produce any numbers they want

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Does anybody believe that Trump has fallen from 56 down to 37 in a national poll?

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No

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Yep

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Yep

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Yep

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Anyway

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Does anybody believe it?

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A lot of people

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Is that a hypothetical question?

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Maybe over 50% of the population believes that

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Yeah

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Alright, so anyway

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Here we go

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Let's get to it

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Let's get down to business

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Alright

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Because this is going to be intense

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Alright

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Do you want to sing Let's Get Down to Business from the Mulan soundtrack?

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I'd rather do This Is How We Do It

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I would really rather you didn't do that

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I feel alright

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The party's up on the west side

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You know what?

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Eventually I will make a man out of you

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Just because I love Pink and oh also Carly Rae Jepsen

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I don't know if we've been over that one

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Pink, Lana Del Rey, Carly Rae Jepsen, and Dido

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That's the so far

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Alright

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That's my Mount Rushmore at this point

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That's a bad Mount Rushmore

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Fuck you

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Okay, okay, that's fine

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So as I said throughout the week he's pitching this entire

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Enya, are we on Enya? Are we good with her?

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Case to case basis, song by song

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I like the Orinoco flow

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Or that song from Sweet November

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Only Time

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You already know more about Enya than any human being should

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You can say where the road goes

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Listen, we gotta get down to business

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Yeah

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So here's Alex on Monday's show sort of giving an introduction to the thesis

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of what we're going to be talking about today

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Okay

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Targets of NSA's Project Dragnet, that's an admittedly legal project

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and now we've gotten basically the indexes of it or our sources have

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It's Sheriff Joe Arpaio's coal case posse

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He's had this for two years

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Coal case posse

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Out of office as of last year, voted out of office

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And some information has now been put out via infoawards.com

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Because the feds obviously under Obama did nothing

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Well there's a new sheriff in town in DC

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Not Joe Arpaio, he's no longer in town

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He talked last week about it

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He's gone

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Soon you'll see evidence of NSA spying

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And this goes back, as far as Obama's concerned, eight years

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Eight years

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But isn't it interesting, drugsreport.com

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How far does it go back where Obama's not concerned?

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Biggest news site in the world, hands down

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Second largest website in the world, period

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After MSN

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Top linked in the corner last night

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Then it moved down this morning to the middle column

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NSA, documents, surveillance on Trump family more, Project Dragnet

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When he's saying

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Was that a complete sentence?

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No, because when he's saying more, that's that click here for more

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He's reading the link

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And then Project Dragnet is a second link

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Oh okay

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So he just doesn't even know what he's reading on the page

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No

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It's insane, if we keep listening

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Yeah his

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He does it again

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His rhythm of that is bananas

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Trump surveilled more, Project Dragnet

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Yeah, like Christopher Walken is doing the show

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Yeah, I mean again it is indicative of his lack of preparation

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He doesn't know what he is actually about to talk about at all

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It's infuriating, it drives me incredibly insane

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But, so we have the

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This clip isn't done, there's more

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Oh good

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But before we get to it, I will say

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What we have already is the introduction of this theme

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It's that there is an NSA CIA whistleblower who has come out

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Who has a ton of documents that proves that Donald Trump is being surveilled

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And as he, as Alex steamrolls along with this

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We will learn that not only is Donald Trump being surveilled and has been for years

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Back when he was just a businessman

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Right

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Not only that, Alex Jones, Michael Savage, other people's families

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And these

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Just other people's families

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Tons of folks

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Just tons of folks

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Yeah, being surveilled

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Was his source Edward Snowden?

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No

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Oh okay

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Although Snowden does get cucked out a little bit in this episode

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How do you cuck out Snowden? He's a bad ass

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Because he's so minor compared to what this whistleblower is bringing out

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Alright, alright

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And I assure you we're gonna dig into every single element of this

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Oh boy

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And I will

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This is gonna get deep

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If in the next two and a half to three hours

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Oh boy

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We don't end up with everyone who hears this realizing that this is nothing

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I will commit Harry Caray

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No, I won't

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Uh, nope, that's a promise

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Yeah, that's a verbal contract

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Yeah, exactly

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Let's get back to the clip before I make worse offers

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Don't hate to dance Patreon

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I need to buy a sword

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And otherwise you won't be able to commit Harry Caray

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Yeah, it's the only way to go about things honorably

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You'd think MSM would at least come out and say it wasn't true

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Kind of like when we got the Mayak reports from the state police

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And then from federal marshals and other copy from a different division

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Because they were all different variants depending on who they were sent to

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And for a week the media ignored it

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Then they said it was fake

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Then they said, okay, it's real

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Well, of course it was real

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I didn't just get it from my sources and believe it

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I also called the phone numbers on there

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And the FBI is like, uh, you're not supposed to have that

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Where are you?

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You were and then I had little arguments about it

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Said it's already out

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Already have it's ready to be published and I'm publishing it right now

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So there you go

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NSA documents

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Surveillance on Trump family

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More

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Project Dragnet

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Project Dragnet

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Again, that's him reading the links

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And not figuring out how a sentence works

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Tom Hanks and Dan Aykroyd

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Project Dragnet

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Is that their theme song?

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I don't remember

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I have no idea

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Uh, just the facts, ma'am

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Yes, there we go

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Wasn't they to make the movie with The Rock and Steve Carell?

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Is that right?

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I don't know

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They did not do that

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I know they made a Dragnet movie

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Yeah, with Tom Hanks and Dan Aykroyd

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No, that was the old one

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They made a new one with Steve Carell

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What?

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I don't think The Rock was in it

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I think I'm conflating things

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I don't think you're

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I don't think you know what it is

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This is so irrelevant to the point

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What is?

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So on Sunday of last week

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Infowars published what they believed or what they are claiming

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Is a database of phone numbers and addresses

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Right

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And Alex has said, these were my old phone numbers

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This is correct

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These are the phone numbers that I have for Donald Trump

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These are real phone numbers

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But as we know, he doesn't know Donald Trump's phone number

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No, every time he gets a call he's like, wait

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I think this is the right area code for the president

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He keeps saying that

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So his claim that he has multiple phone numbers for Trump, it falls flat for us

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Well, but he does have Trumps in different area codes, right?

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Is that what we're saying right there?

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Yeah, rest in peace, Nate Dog

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But he has these things that he published with some redacted parts

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You know, like you don't want to

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Fake redacted parts?

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Well, no, but even if you do have this information that you've got

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You don't want to dox tons of people

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So they, you know, clipped off parts of phone numbers and what have you

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Okay

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They claimed that it was a part of a massive index of people who were being spied on

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And this is from this whistleblower's information

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Now, the problem that we have with that is that is completely unprovable

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And all of this information could have been gotten by someone who has

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The minimal amount of hacking skills and is willing to falsify documents

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Yeah

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So keep that in mind as we go further

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I am struggling to keep it in mind right now

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Anything that Alex has posted does not have to come

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Like, every piece of evidence that he's posted on the website

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Does not have to come from, like, an NSA source or a CIA source

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No, of course not

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It's all very easily accessible information

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Like, a lot of the information is the address of Mar-a-Lago

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I could Google that

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Yeah

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Did he just print out, like, a part of the phone book?

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I don't think he did

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I think someone else did and sent it to him as evidence of a leak

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Okay, so it's not the white papers, it's the white pages

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That's what we're talking about right now

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Exactly, nailed it

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Okay, I got you

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Nailed it

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See, I can soundbite

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Yeah

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You think I can't soundbite?

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I think you can soundbite, baby

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I can soundbite all day

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So this is basically the construction of what is going on

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Right

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We're building the foundation of a lie about spies

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A lie, a spy lie

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A spy lie

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And Alex is using whatever information that he got as evidence

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that Trump has been being spied on

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He's using it as evidence that he was right all along

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Which is none

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Right

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So, on Monday he has an interview with a guy named Mike Zullo

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Okay

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And Mike Zullo is a former detective

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And from what

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Yes, so he's come back for one last job

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Right

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Is he two or three days away from retirement?

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Please give me something

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He's certainly passed

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Okay

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He's currently a used car dealer, as far as I can tell

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Okay

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That's what I found in my slight bits of research

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Sideways move

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Uh, I don't care too much about Mike Zullo, necessarily

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All right

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What I do care about more is that he is an employee and former

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Well, former employee because he's not out, he's not in work anymore

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of Sheriff Joe Arpaio

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Great

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He was a member of his cold case posse

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Oh no

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And now I think it is time that we start to deal a tiny bit with Joe Arpaio

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That racist garbage pile of human fuckface

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That guy?

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He

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That guy?

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It's who I was talking about

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All right

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Earlier when I said, when you look at him, he's way worse than even what you just said

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Yeah, I did not know if you could get worse than everything I know about him

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So we're gonna get to it and Mike Zullo is going to make the argument

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That's like finding out the devil is also Alex Jones

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Like it just doesn't get much worse

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That you think the devil can't go lower, but there we go

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Yeah, the devil also like, you know, cheats at cards or something like that

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God damn it, man

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Come on

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In the Old West though, so you always shoot him

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Yeah, yeah

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So we'll get to Zullo's point, which is basically that when Joe Arpaio was being tried

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Right

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For contempt of court

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Yeah

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For not making the necessary changes that a judge insisted that he make based on findings

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that they had of racial discrimination in the Maricopa County police force

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Right, the part where he didn't follow the law on one occasion

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Twice

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And then also didn't follow the law telling him to follow the law

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There were two times that he was brought into court in 2008 and 2010

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Right

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And told you need to make these changes, this is a severe problem

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And then he didn't and he was held in contempt of court

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Yeah

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Instead of arrested and had his left leg cut off as what should have happened

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Right

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In this court case, Mike Zullo

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Like he's right-legged, so I don't want to remove his good leg

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Sure, sure

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His dominant leg

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He needs to be able to kick

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Yeah, exactly

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So Mike Zullo is going to make the argument as we go along that he was being

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surveilled upon and wiretapped during that investigation

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And we'll deal with that in a moment

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But what I want to deal with first is I want to give an accurate picture of who Sheriff Joe Arpaio is

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Let's get down to it

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I have pages

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Oh boy

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Of instances where any single one of these is disqualifying

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So get ready

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Does he say grab him by the pussy a bunch?

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No

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Because we know that's only locker room talk

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So he's the sheriff of Maricopa County in Arizona

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Yeah

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Uh in 1993 Joe Arpaio set up a tent city to house his inmates outside

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He did not believe that they deserved to be inside

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Great

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Arpaio literally described the tent city as a quote concentration camp

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That's good

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Bad news

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I like his willingness to embrace his monstrosity

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Like he didn't even bother to call it something different

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He's like if I could burn you

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I would

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I would totally do that

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Speaking of

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But the law or something says I can't

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Speaking of burning these inmates

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Please don't say any more after that

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On July 2nd 2011 when temperatures in Phoenix hit 118 degrees Fahrenheit

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Arpaio measured the temperature inside tent city tents as 145 degrees Fahrenheit

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Some inmates complained that their fans near their beds were not working

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And that their shoes were melting from the heat

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Jesus

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During the summer of 2003 when outside temperatures exceeded 110 degrees Fahrenheit

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Arpaio said to complaining inmates it's 120 degrees in Iraq

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And the soldiers are living in tents and they didn't commit any crimes

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So shut your mouths

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Which is horrible

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He's not a human being is he

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Nope

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He's not

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In 1997

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How do you do that?

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How do you not have any empathy for another human being?

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In 1997 Amnesty International said Arpaio's tent city jail is not

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A quote adequate or humane alternative to housing inmates in suitable jail facilities

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People get mad when you leave a dog in a fucking car

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Mm-hmm

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And this dude is literally burning people alive in the desert sun

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Tent city is criticized by groups contending that there are violations of human and

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Constitutional rights implicit in its uh formation

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All the rights it's a war crime

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Yep

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You you wouldn't do that at fucking Guantanamo Bay

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Well his argument is that they're criminals and who cares

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That's a bad argument

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Fuck them they committed crimes

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No that's a really bad argument

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Sure one of Arpaio's public relations actions was the requirement that inmates wear pink underwear

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In order to prevent its theft by the released inmates which is a stupid rationale

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Uh he claimed

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Yeah but I mean that's the most harmless thing I've ever heard anybody do so

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He claims that he has saved the county $70,000 in the first year of this rule

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Was in effect that's a lot of fucking underwear

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That's lies

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Arpaio subsequently started

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Pink underwear costs 50 cents more in my experience

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Arpaio subsequently started to sell customized pink boxers with the Maricopa County Sheriff's

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logo and Go-Joe on them as a fundraiser for Sheriff's Posse Association

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What?

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Despite allegations of misuse of funds received from these sales

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Arpaio declined to provide an accounting for the money

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So he basically used it as a promotional tool uh and there's no evidence also that he saved

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That $70,000 at all

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So

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So so we're ending with his financial crimes

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We're not even ending

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What?

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We're not even close

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No!

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In 2010 Arpaio put together an armed illegal immigration posse to help enforce immigration laws

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Why do you keep saying posse? Posse's bad

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It's real bad you know what it gets worse this posse included actors Steven Seagal and Lou Ferrigno

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No that's better I am way more comfortable with that posse now

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They have guns

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One I know that that posse is uh immune to ninjas

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That's the first thing we know about that posse

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Or voodoo

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No ninjas uh and then if anybody gets really out of control

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They've got somebody to fall back on

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He's a big green guy

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Sure you would never be as angry

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You would not

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You would not like me if you're illegal

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Especially not if you're oh god Joe Arpaio's a monster

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We're not even close to the tip of the iceberg

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The ACLU has alleged that quote Arpaio routinely abused pre-trial detainees at

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Maricopa County Jail by feeding them moldy bread rotten fruit and other contaminated food

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Housing them in cells so hot as to endanger their health denying them care for serious medical and

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mental health needs and keeping them packed as tightly as sardines and holding cells for

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days at a time during intake now that's before they've been

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Is this the fucking middle medieval ages what is fucking happening

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That's before they were charged

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That's before they were charged with a fucking crime

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This is pre-trial detainees

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That's not good

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That's insane

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You should probably treat those people

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No you should treat human beings like human beings

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A federal judge named Neil Wake ruled in 2008 and 2010 that the county jails

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violated human and constitutional rights of the inmates

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Yeah that's a very simple ruling that should have taken like 20 seconds

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Under Arpaio the Maricopa County jails have lost accreditation multiple times

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In September 2008 the National Committee on Correctional Health Care

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terminated the accreditation of Maricopa County Sheriff's Office jails

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for failure to maintain compliance with national standards

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and providing false information about such compliance

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What does that mean

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They lied

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What do you mean

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No I mean lost accreditation does that mean people aren't allowed to be in there anymore

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No just that they're not supported by these medical associations that are in charge of sort of

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keeping track and making sure that jails are treating people humanely

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So they're just so he's still allowed to treat people inhumanely they just say I think that's bad

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Basically yeah but it's a big deal

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They're fucking amazing

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But it's a big deal

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I love their life-saving abilities here

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They have no like enforcement capabilities but they do have like

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How is it that Alex Jones can get a fuck face to go to a goddamn pizza restaurant

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but we can't get human beings to save other human beings lives

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that are being burned alive

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In October 2008

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Liberals are pussies that's why

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In October 2008 a U.S. District Court judge ruled that grossly inadequate

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conditions at the Maricopa County Jail overseen by Arpaio

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are unconstitutional and jeopardize the health and safety of prisoners

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Yeah

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I hate to keep hammering on that but these are different cases also

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Arpaio has said that his jails are meant as places of punishment and the inhabitants are criminals

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although in fact most inmates have not been convicted of a crime and are awaiting trial

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Fuck you

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Fuck

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What the fuck

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It gets worse

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Where do these people fucking come from

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It gets worse

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Who the fuck are

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It gets worse

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At least Ted Bundy was honest about his monstrosity

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Sure

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Like I would much rather

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Like he's a sociopath that's still allowed to roam the streets

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Like he just figured out how to fucking turn it into a money

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Like he turned being Ted Bundy into a job

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That's what he did

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And he was re-elected like four times

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That's because

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Well Arizona's a fucking garbage hole filled with old white people

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That's fair

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Here's another one for you

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Under Arpaio the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office may have improperly cleared or reported as solved

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as many as 75% of cases without arrest or proper investigation

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How does that grab you

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During a three-year period ending in 2007 more than 400 sex crimes reported to Arpaio's office

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No

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Were inadequately investigated or not investigated at all

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No

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While providing police services for El Mirage Arizona the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office

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under Arpaio failed to follow through on at least 32 reported child molestations

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Jesus fuck why

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Even though the suspects were known in all but six cases

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Many of, here's why, many of the children who were victims were illegal immigrants

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Fuck

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Doesn't care

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How do you not care about that

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I don't know

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Like even

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Fuck

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In 1999 undercover Maricopa County Sheriff's Office deputies arrested James Saville

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then 18 years old and charged him with plotting to kill Arpaio with a pipe bomb

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A local television station had been tipped off to the arrest by the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office

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and broadcast footage of the arrest that evening

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The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office held a news conference shortly after the arrest

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and Arpaio appeared in interviews on a local television station saying quote

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If they think they're going to scare me away with bombs and everything else

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It's not going to bother me

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After spending four years in jail awaiting trial

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Saville was about to

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Four years awaiting trial

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Yep

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He was about to sign a plea deal that would have sent him to prison for 20 years

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Although he maintained his innocence

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He was initially unwilling to take a chance on being sentenced to even longer

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than that he had been convicted

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If you were convicted

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However

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The former head of undercover investigations for the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office

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called Saville's legal team with a bombshell

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Based on his review of the case

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He felt that Saville had been entrapped

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Although entrapment is all but impossible to prove in most jurisdictions

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Saville's attorneys eventually discovered that the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office

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detectives had bought the bomb parts themselves

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What?!

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Then convinced Saville to build it

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Even though he was not predisposed to commit such a crime

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On July 9th, 2003, a Maricopa County Superior Court jury acquitted Saville

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Finding that the bomb plot was an elaborate publicity stunt to boost Arpio's re-eliction bid

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In 2004

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Are you fucking serious?

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In 2004

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He did the Nixon?

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In 2004, Saville argued Arpio and the Maricopa County

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He sued Arpio and Maricopa County for wrongful arrest and entrapment

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Seeking 10 million dollars in damages

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He deserves more and Joe Arpio should have been hit with a fucking pipe bomb

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In 2008 the suit was settled with Maricopa County paying Saville 1.6 million dollars

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So a little bit less than the 10 he should have gotten

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He should have gotten fucking a billion dollars

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So I am like this is the hardest thing

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I am against the death penalty

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But Joe Arpio should be fucking killed

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He should be dead

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There's only one reason for the death penalty

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It's for fucking monsters like him

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He's abused the public trust to such a like a

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He's abused human beings

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Yeah

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He should be fucking like there's no other

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There's no other solution for that guy

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We're not done

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We're no

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He's already dead

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This is the producer

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He's already in my brain

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It gets even worse

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It can't

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The justice department accused Arpio of engaging in quote

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Unconstitutional policing by unfairly targeting Latinos for detention and arrest

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And retaliate retaliating against critics

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In the report a justice department concluded that Arpio oversaw quote

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The worst pattern of racial profiling in US history

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In 2015

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That's fucking hard to do

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After after all our genocides

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That's a tough one

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Yeah

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If you get labeled with that

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Wow

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In 2015 Arpio was charged with contempt of court for failing to implement a court's required changes

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To his police force regarding rampant racial profiling

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He was also found to have destroyed evidence in the case

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Yeah of course he did

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He's also publicly promoted the Obama birther hoax repeatedly

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Up to December of last year 2016

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He was quote investigating the birth certificate

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And he erroneously claimed he found nine points of forgery in Obama's birth certificate

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So all right

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In 2008

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I was gonna take notes but then I just started slitting my fucking wrists

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In 2008 when Phoenix mayor Phil Gordon called the federal investigation into our

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Called for a federal investigation into Arpio's immigration enforcement tactics

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Arpio's office responded by demanding the mayor's emails and phone logs

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Arpio also had his critic Maricopa County supervisor Don Stapley

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A Republican arrested on suspicion of failing to properly disclose disclose business interests

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Stapley agreed to a 3.5 million settlement in his uh lawsuit against Arpio

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Thomas and the county for false arrest

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So he's tried to jail his critics multiple times and been sued for it and lost

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He's cost the county so many millions of dollars

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Because of these illegal tactics that he's undergone

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And he was re-elected four times

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And they tried to uh have like a runoff election twice

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Uh and uh drop the mic there

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It failed both times

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Really?

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Which is crazy

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Yeah

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Really?

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Yeah

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But I mean

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Oh wow

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That's how it goes how could this country have elected Trump

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Oh that's how that's how that's how it goes with deeply entrenched uh like uh illegal operations

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This fucking racist pile of shit

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Yeah so you might think that you know he's a racist he's a bigot he's awful but

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How is he not in jail?

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Because he argues that he gets results

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How is he not in jail though?

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Well he committed all the crimes

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He might be soon

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He should be dead

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He should his argument is that he's gruff but he gets results

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No but that's not an argument in a case of law

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But also listen to this in 1998

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I can't argue oh okay here's Jordan you're under arrest for terrorism

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Uh excuse me I believe I get results

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And that's not an argument

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In 1998 Arpaio commissioned a study by Arizona State University criminal justice professor

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Marie L Griffin to examine recidivism rates based on conditions of confinement

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So basically like before him

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How often people come back to jail

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But it's also the study is supposed to be before him and after him

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Or like while he's in charge and his predecessor

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Oh for fuck's sake

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Comparing recidivism rates under Arpaio to those of his predecessor the study found quote

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There is no significant difference in recidivism observed between those offenders released

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In 1989 to 90 and those released in 1994 to 1995

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So what you're saying is that he is both a criminal a monster

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And his defense of I get results does not actually get results

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Statistically it is a lie

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He's a fucking how how can you how could you not prosecute him

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Like there's no there's no way that you could not put him in jail forever and ever and ever

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And for all the lives that there are

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I know that this is a lot of information and it's long but I'm giving you all of this

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I want to believe in reincarnation or ghosts just so that guy can be tortured every moment

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For the rest of fucking eternity

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I'm giving you all of this information and there's still even more

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But the reason is because the interview that Alex does is with this guy's close associate

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Okay

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So a guy who's carrying water for Joe Arpaio

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Right

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Is who Alex has on

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By the transitive property of you're a fucking monster

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We can determine that we're talking to a fucking monster

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That this guy was up to some shit

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Yeah he's an evil man

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So guys here's here's the situation

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There's a lot of really fucked up stuff that you can find out about the history of Joe Arpaio

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And the Maricopa County Sheriff's Association

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And I just got a fucking bullet point list of the absolute utter monstrosity of this man

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Upon reflection me and Jordan have talked it over and we've decided that

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A lot of the stuff is not right for us to necessarily be broadcasting

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I think I think you should find this on your own in a comfortable place because

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Listening to it in a row is overwhelming

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It it shook me so

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A good place to start is just his Wikipedia page

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Yeah no kidding

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A lot of citations you can find about that if you want to go

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You can find out more about the depths of the truly irresponsible and evil police work that he

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Joe Arpaio presided over

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He ranks up there with everyone convicted in the Nuremberg trials

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I genuinely I genuinely believe that

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Uh so anyway guys uh this is the sort of like look into it

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We'll we'll wait we'll be here

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Are we gonna are we gonna give a moment of silence?

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No let's get into

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Feel free to press pause

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We will wait four seconds for you and then we'll kick right back in

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Here's me like tapping my foot waiting

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Uh so here we go we get into now this interview with Mike Zullo

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Yeah

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That who again is one of the higher-ups of the Maricopa County

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Former higher-ups as it were Alex does a lot of vamping

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He's an accomplice to every single thing that Joe Arpaio has done

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Yes well I mean I don't

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I mean he hasn't always been there but in spirit

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Yeah he he implicitly signed off by supporting him and still supporting him to this day

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So Alex does a lot of sort of like opening presentation before he gets to the interview

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So play a couple clips of that

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Okay

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Bombshell Obama's NSA illegally spied on sheriff Arpaio's prosecution

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They've got the documents the surveillance

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Arpaio's house his office all of it spied on and used in the federal court

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Again sheriff Arpaio they're trying to put in prison

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Wow

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Good

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Federal officer long-serving decorated sheriff patriot

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Monster

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Obama trying to put him in prison

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Murderer

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Using the spy grid to try to make up garbage

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Racist

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And guess who else is in the database

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Yours truly

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Isn't that just special

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Not particularly

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Who's who the Patriots in there

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I don't want to get on that list don't you

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Nope

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It's definitely not

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Shifting a bunch of papers

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Which list was he shifting right there

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I think it was the red list

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The red list

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Oh no

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So the argument that he's making there

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Isn't that the black list

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Oh maybe it is

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The red list was commies

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I don't know

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Isn't that the one that starred David Duchovny where he

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No that's the red shoe diaries

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So the argument that he's making there is that Arpaio was

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Being spied on during his trial and what have you

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This is absolute utter nonsense

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Why would you need to

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The secondary argument that he's making is that this database has come out with all of these

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All these people's names and Alex Jones is one of them

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The knock list from Mission Impossible

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I think it's the black list starring James Spader

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I corrected my reference

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All right fine

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We'll get to

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You win this round

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We'll get a little bit further down the line and make sure

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I'll get back to why that's bullshit in a second but let's get through his introductions here

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This is where he connects what's going on the Arpaio spying situation

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To what we're going to be talking about later

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The bigger case that involves Trump that involves Alex

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It's this guy named Dennis Montgomery who is that NSA CIA whistleblower

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Right

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Who is much bigger than Snowden

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I swear to god have you seen the movie Zodiac

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Yeah

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Have you seen any movie where somebody has a giant fucking pinboard

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Filled with string connecting one thing to another

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Because it's on your goddamn wall

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It's in my head

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It's oh

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This one's real simple though

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I assure you this is not that hard to

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One line of string

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That's all we needed for this

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Basically

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This was all brought to them years ago in federal court

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They ignored it and this is only started coming after Arpaio

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Even harder because they knew he had the whistleblower that had all this information

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So he connects everything there

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This whistleblower in question is this guy named Dennis Montgomery

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Dennis Montgomery

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Uh would you like a backstory on him now or later

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Um let's go with half and half

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Give me one bit of backstory

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One bit of backstory

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Yeah

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Okay here's a fun one

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So Dennis Montgomery was a guy who he founded a video compression

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Noise filtering business called eTrepid Technologies

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A video compression noise filtering business

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Like

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In 1998 he founded this company

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Oh okay

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The business started out as a tool for the casino industry

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But eventually they sought out government contracts

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In 2014 Montgomery was revealed to be working as a confidential informant for Sheriff Joe Arpaio

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He claimed that when he was contracting for the CIA through the eTrepid Technologies

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Okay

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The government contracts that he was doing

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He obtained documents that proved a conspiracy against Arpaio

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Basically that the Department of Justice under Eric Holder was working with the judge in the case

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And Arpaio's racial profiling case that the two of them were working together

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And he had the documents to prove it

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Isn't that just called

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Isn't that just called like doing doing the law

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In this case it's conspiracy

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Well I mean is is conspiracy is is it just like hey let's partner up

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I guess in the yeah I mean but you can't you can't man

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You can't partner up? Otherwise it's a conspiracy?

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The allegation was that he was alleged like wiretapping them which is like the DOJ

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So if the judge if the judge gave them permission to wiretap him that's still not conspiracy

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Well I mean I don't know if there is that permission so I mean I also don't

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Like have you seen the wire?

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Let me put all my cards on the table

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Put all those cards on the table

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I don't think there was a wiretap

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There was definitely not a wiretap

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Also we know how bad a dude Joe Arpaio is

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He's a fucking monster who manufactured his own pipe bomb publicity stunt

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In this 2004 claim that Montgomery made in this court case

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Arpaio later characterized the result of Montgomery's investigation as quote junk

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Oh so even Arpaio thinks Dennis Montgomery is a fucking idiot

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Yep

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All right then he's the perfect man to come on Alex Jones

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No Montgomery is not going to appear

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Oh okay

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Montgomery is a shadowy figure that's just talked about

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All right so he's a vampire

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Yes Mark our Mike Zullo who is Arpaio's detective

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Who's Arpaio's Danny Zuko

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Now car salesman is a guest here that we we are leading up to

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I'm telling you Alex does such an elaborate and super long introduction

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Is Mike Zullo at least on screen watching the whole the whole introduction

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Looking awkwardly and uncomfortable?

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No because Jerome Corsi is

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Oh good thank god

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If somebody's not looking uncomfortable while Alex Jones is introducing somebody

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I get real bummed out

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I'm not joking at all

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Jerome Corsi is hanging out

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Because he

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Just in the corner kind of pacing back and forth

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He has hooked things up between Mike Zullo and Alex to do an interview

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Right

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Block date style

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So he he is there as like a third wheel

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Uh anyway okay so

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Blind date style

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At this point Alex drops a little bit of information

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That shows that he doesn't have any actual information

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About the situation that he's going to be discussing

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So let's recap what happened yesterday

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I love it

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Let's recap what happened yesterday

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Please do

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And and recap that to give them credit Newsmax and Larry Klaiman

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Who's been at the center of this I'm only claiming as soon as possible

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They're the ones that got the documents

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And then they were able to interface them with Arpaio

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That show all this but but and and they've got a report on the whistleblower himself

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It's like another Snowden he was a contractor

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So I need that info I had it last night I need it

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If you don't know where it is just go to yesterday's interview

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With Zullo

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He talks about in the first two minutes

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I need it bad

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Mindy I need it

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Uber bad

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He doesn't know what to talk about unless this information is sitting right in front of him

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Because he doesn't know the situation

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Of course not

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He only knows if he's reading off some piece of paper

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Meanwhile he yells about he's teleprompter free

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He doesn't know the story

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He only knows if his staff is feeding him information

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Let's recap what happened yesterday

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He Alex had published a list of people's phone numbers and addresses

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Okay

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That was allegedly from this Montgomery this Dennis Montgomery guy

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Well let's recap what happened yesterday

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I just did

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Oh well let's recap what happened yesterday

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He posted that

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Oh okay

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And he thinks it's evidence that Trump is being spied on and that

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Because Joe Arpaio is spied on

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And that within this massive group of documents that Dennis Montgomery has revealed

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But he hasn't revealed

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The new Snowden

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Yeah he hasn't revealed any of these documents

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Nedward Snowden

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All that proves that James Comey is a fucking liar

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Right

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All of this is

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James Comey is a fucking liar

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All of this is going on and Trump is being fucking railroaded

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It's good

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Yeah

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I like it

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So this

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I wish he was on a railroad where somebody was twisting their pencil thin mustache

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But this time no Dudley Do-Right is coming

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Once again I want to use this next clip to just establish that Alex is specifically

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Talking about Trump stuff and Arpaio stuff as being the exact same thing

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What about butt stuff?

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Uh butt stuff is in in the mix

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I think though it's in play

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Yeah it's in play

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The second part of the series that Dr. Corsi put up today published in infowars.com

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NSA document proves surveillance of Donald Trump and his family

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Bombshell discovery shows targets of NSA project dragnet

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Here's a Larry Klayman article

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That's the guy that found the judicial watch

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At Newsmax

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Nunes must ask FBI

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That's the House Intelligence Committee head again

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Must has FBI's Comey about Montgomery mass surveillance case

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And that's the case given to Arpaio that the feds haven't denied

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With the 47 hard drives over 60 million pages of information

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Much bigger than Snowden

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Cucking out Snowden

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But that doesn't necessarily like

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Like yeah he's got a mountain of empty

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Hard drives

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Three by five floppies

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He's got a mountain of them

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More than Snowden's ever even seen

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They claim it's actually 600 million documents

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Alex undersold it as 60 million documents

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600 million documents?

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The issue is that no one really knows what's on them or if they're even real

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How could you?

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It would be impossible to have processed any of that information at this point

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Even with a couple years lead time you couldn't process 600 million documents

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Now there's a couple issues

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Well I mean if McDonald's can sell 99 billion

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Yeah I think we can do it in about 10 years

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So Alex's proof that all of this is real

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Yes

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Is that his phone number and his old phone number is in this database

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Along with Donald Trump's phone numbers

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Which again we have suspicions whether he actually knows or not

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Does not know

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Here's a clip of him providing literally the only evidence he gives at any point

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That this stuff is true

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The super Snowden leaks show

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Obama

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Obama spied on Trump

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Alex Jones

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Sheriff Arpaio

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It's all there

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How sensational

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Drudge the biggest news site in the world

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Rated

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The second biggest website in the world period

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Has had this link since yesterday at four o'clock

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Guys search engine Alex Jones click google or search engine NSA whatever

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As of showtime I've seen nothing on this

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I've never seen that

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Total blackout

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They don't know how to respond

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Let me tell you

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These phone numbers

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These private phone numbers

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His private apartment at Marlago and all that

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These are the numbers

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My old cell phone number nobody had

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That's real

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My old private office

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That's real

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All these numbers

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Real

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This is real

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They already know that

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That's why they're so scared

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They're running around saying

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To the whole world Trump's insane

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No one ever surveilled you

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I mean like the fact that

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How why would you have an office phone number that nobody could know

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I don't know

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Shouldn't you like

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It's dumb

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Why would you even have an office phone

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If nobody's supposed to know your office phone number

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I mean you hit the nail right on the head

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A lot of the stuff is conceivably public information

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It's definitely public information

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But even Alex Jones cell phone number I guarantee I could find it

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He probably gave it on air at one point

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I guarantee that if I had a tiny bit of hacking ability I could find his phone number

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You can find anybody's private information really easily

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Yeah

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Based on all of the places that you would have dropped it

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He probably put it on fucking Facebook

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If you ever went to college all that information is really easily accessible

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Like a bunch of your addresses

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Well I mean we do know that he only ever went to community college

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Which is much

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And I'm assuming he's changed his cell phone since then

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Well right but I mean a lot of the

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A lot of the

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So they have his community college cell phone number

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Sure that could be what he said

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They got it

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It's real

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I don't think cell phones were around back then

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But be that as it may

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But what I'm saying is a lot of these things you end up filing information places

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And a lot of your private information is much more accessible than people think

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I've seen tons of news reports about this

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Where just mid-level basic hacking individuals let's say

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Not even the most evolved hackers are able to find tons and tons of private information about people

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And not illegally

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They're just able to find it

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You can get fucking courtesy calls on your cell phone now

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Yeah

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They're just selling your number

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Like if you've ever gotten a call on your cell phone polling you

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That's because somebody sold your fucking number

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Yeah

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You can easily

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Yeah

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All that information is super easy to find

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So the fact that he's using it as proof of an NSA CIA database is cockamamie

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It's ludicrous

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It could have just been fucking AT&T

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Yeah absolutely

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And I mean if we really want to get down to the like the bottom of it

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I'm against that

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I don't like the idea that people are selling information

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But that's a whole other thing to unpack

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That's not what Alex is talking about

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Anyway

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It was unpacked yesterday I believe

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It's now legal to sell all of your information

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So here we go

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They signed it into law

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Here we go

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Alex is again reinforcing his own sort of narrative

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But doing it incredibly poorly

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Because again this is what he says in terms of like we have the proof

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We have all the headlines

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Wirecap data we can show it to you all day long

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You can show us headlines all day long but that doesn't matter

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Edit it in so right before he says that you say the exact

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Don't say we have all the proof and then he says we have all the headlines

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You have to say we have all the headlines then he says it

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He's got the headlines

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It's perfect

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Yeah

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It's perfect

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You look like a fucking genius

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So anyway here we go we're going to get into the actual Zullo interview now

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And Zullo is going to lay out a story that unfortunately as he tells the story

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You start to get the picture that he actually doesn't have shit

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It's really unfortunate

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And the title that I gave this clip is

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They don't know what to do with the information

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You know to put it in a nutshell to address the question you just asked

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We really don't know what is going on

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We know that we made every endeavor to bring Mr. Montgomery his information to federal authorities

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Like I said earlier we contacted Larry Klayman for his assistance

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And under the direction of Sheriff Arpaio we brought Mr. Montgomery to Judge Royce Lamberth

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Who used to be the head of the Pfizer court

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Judge Lamberth was the Pfizer judge that authorized the bin Laden wiretaps in his living room at three o'clock in the morning

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And we got him there

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The dilemma was for all involved is where do we go with this

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Mr. Montgomery during his tenure as a contractor

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The FBI and this is in court documents had illegally executed a search warrant on his home

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With fabricated affidavits to her judge and that was all bared out in a trial

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I can find no evidence of that

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He did not for obvious reasons trust the FBI or want to work with the FBI that posed a problem for us

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Because the only other place we could have gone to at that time would have been the Department of Justice

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And I believe at that time it was still Eric Holder that was a problem

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So here's why it's a problem for them

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Because it's not a thing?

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No

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Okay

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Allegedly all of this 600 million documents is confidential information

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So they can't they can't just go to a lawyer

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Yeah they're illegally holding it

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Yeah he stole all this allegedly from the NSA

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It is it is a problem to take it to the Department of Justice when Holder is willing to prosecute you

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But also this guy Mike Zullo and the next interview that we're going to be dealing with is this guy who keeps coming up

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Larry Klayman the two of them can't know anything about what's on those documents

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Can't know anything about what's on those documents

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And if they do

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They've committed a crime

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That's bad

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And so if they admit that they know anything on it they have on air committed a crime

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That is a pickle

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That's really tough

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So essentially

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That's a fine line to walk

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All of these dudes have to and I believe them I don't necessarily think that they're they're lying

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They haven't looked at any of it

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Or they have

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All no I think all they're going on is what Dennis Montgomery has told them

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So if he's seen the documents they are telling Alex what Dennis Montgomery has told them they say

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So we're playing a big game of telephone here

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Basically

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That's what's happening

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Well it's back to Johnson that CIA operative who Alex had on the other day

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Who had like third-hand knowledge of stuff

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Yeah he's got friends who know sources who are right next to the guy

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Maybe seeing the videos that he's talking about

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That where Michelle Obama says the word honky

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Whitey

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Whitey

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Really wish that were true

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Again this is

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I would watch that on repeat

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This is third-hand

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Give me a cam of Michelle Obama saying Whitey

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Third-hand reporting

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Yes

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Third-hand

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Uh-huh

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Thorough

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That's that's why they call it thoroughed hand

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That's a problem for them

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Because they can't make an argument

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All they can do is speculate about what possibly is in this information

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Based on what Dennis Montgomery has told them

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So they're doing everything Alex Jones loves to do

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Now Dennis Montgomery as we've already established

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His investigation to try and help Joe Arpaio was called junk by Joe Arpaio himself

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Yeah

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So that's one piece

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I can't wait to fucking drop the hammer on this Dennis Montgomery

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Let's do it

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I'm not doing it now

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Jesus Christ

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We need we need to let it build

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This is the worst hand job I've ever received

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We need to let it build

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So at this point Zullo is going to explain what happened

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They took the information to the FBI

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I'll let him spell it out

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Larry Klayman was successful in persuading Mr. Montgomery to talk to the FBI

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Which he did

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My understanding you'll have to clarify this with Larry

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Is Mr. Montgomery brought in a sampling of some documentation

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All right

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That the FBI vetted

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In return they contacted him and gave him what is known as production immunity

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Again this is based on Larry or excuse me

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On what Dennis Montgomery told them

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Yeah

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They wouldn't have done that though if he had stolen those documents

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He stole 47 hard drives and 600 million documents

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Yeah you remember how Edward Snowden isn't allowed to be in the country anymore?

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Like they just won't do it because then they'll like

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Goodbye forever Edward Snowden

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So Dennis Montgomery instead la la la walks into the FBI

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He shows them these documents

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Check out your documents guys

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They let him leave and then he just has been living his life

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Oh I also want to make this clear

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Dennis Montgomery at this point in 2017 is like 65 years old

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Okay

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So he's an old dude

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He's not some spry like Edward Snowden's sexy

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He's young and like it's a fun whistleblower image

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Nobody's nobody's writing citizen 64

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No not at all

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And nothing against him for being old

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But it's like you get in your head this idea because Snowden keeps coming up that he's like

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Some able-bodied young man

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He's old as shit

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Yeah

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You know how hackers usually aren't a 70 year old dude

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But I do believe that he actually

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Using dial-up CDs

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I mean we can talk all the shit we want

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But I do believe that this guy actually does have some hacking ability

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Okay

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But that's only because Occam's Razor tells me he has to

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In order to fraudulently create the documents that have been sent to Infowars

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And I'll spell that out a little bit later as we go along

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So he knows enough to forge bullshit

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Yes

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Gotcha

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Let's talk a little bit more about the FBI situation

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And he brought in I believe it was like 600 million records

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Whoa

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He provided them that information some time goes by

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And they called him back and they all gave him testimonial immunity

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That's right it's reported

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47 hard drives

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60 million pages of information

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I mean this is just unbelievable

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This is way bigger than anything WikiLeaks or Snowden never had

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And now we're checking the data

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It's all real

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There's no way this guy had this

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These are real databases

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No not necessarily

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Nuh uh

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So I mean you know again it comes back to like a lot of that stuff is

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Fairly easy to find

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Google

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Uh some of it could be Googled

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So we know Montgomery can Google

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Which is impressive for a 65 year old

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That is not bad

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No not bad at all

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Yeah

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I know a lot of people who are in their 50s who have no idea

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They're like can I Bing it?

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No you can't Bing it

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You can't Bing classified documents only Google has that

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Everybody knows this

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At this point Zulo gets into another part that actually sounds like it might have some legs

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Okay

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Is he ever going to not be the most boring person to listen to?

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Uh no because Jerome Corsi is still around

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Oh that's true

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And David Knight

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Good point

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So uh so he's gonna get into this and it sounds scary but don't worry about it

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I'll be right back on the other side of this to explain

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Let us find out

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So you spot check different info randomly that he obviously you know you know can't just go and

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guess what you're gonna spot check and what'd you find?

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Um the personal information on a lot of the 151,000 people was absolutely correct

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Although none of them can identify the bank accounts that were alleged to be theirs

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That gets to be very interesting because those bank accounts

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it is suspected that they are actually fraudulent transactions

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Every one of those bank accounts had accounts in it with high speculative real estate gas and oil

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stock plays

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So we're talking about a lot of derivatives speculative things being done in other people's

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names

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Correct

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Alex doesn't know what that is

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Nope

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And derivative speculative things

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Things

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What does he think those are?

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Uh sugar futures I don't know

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Oh like from trading places

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Yeah

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The orange futures gotcha gotcha

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So that is actually really unfortunate that they use those specifics because I can trace

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back exactly what they're talking about

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Uh oh

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Found a little

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Papa Dan

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Found a little bit of an article from the news association in Phoenix that was covering

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the trial of Arpaio

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Right

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And so plaintiff's lawyers presented some evidence suggesting that the informant

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Dennis Montgomery was investigating Snow who was the lawyer who was I'm sorry not the lawyer

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the judge in Joe Arpaio's racial discrimination case

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Okay

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So they found some evidence that indicated that Montgomery, Dennis Montgomery, was being

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employed by Joe Arpaio to investigate the judge which would be very illegal

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That's really illegal

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Yes

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That that fits with our uh Judge Arpaio knowledge so far

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Who has actively tried to jail opponents

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Who is

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People who speak out against him who's caused millions of dollars of lawsuits to be filed

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because of his dictatorish behavior

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He's like every sheriff uh in any movie from the south

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Or during the reconstruction era

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40s era movies

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Yeah yeah yeah

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So Arpaio insisted he hadn't encouraged Montgomery to investigate the judge

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Instead

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He would never do that

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Instead Arpaio insisted the informant was investigating bank fraud and the judge was

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one of 150,000 alleged victims in Maricopa County

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Now that 150,000 is important because that's 1,000 off from the number that this guy just

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referenced as the NSA CIA database that allegedly includes Donald Trump and Alex Jones

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Do they live in Maricopa County?

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Uh no

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So it seems like it's a decent possibility that that

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They're repurposing bullshit information to different bullshit information

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Right

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Wow that's well we we should recycle

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I think that's a very important thing climate change is coming

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So if you're gonna invent bullshit you don't want to just keep on throwing your old bullshit away

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Use it to grow mushrooms

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Exactly

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So Arpaio had

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It's great fertilizer for lies

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Arpaio and Montgomery had this bank fraud thing that was cover for him investigating

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this judge that was trying to pass a racial profiling case against him

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Right

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Well and the judge is not actually invested in striking him down

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He's hearing the case

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The prosecutors are more the issue

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Nah

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But he's investigating

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He's investigating this judge to try and get leverage over him and what have you

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But that fits with that that fits with the kind of paranoid personality that we're dealing with

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Because he doesn't believe that it is never he always believes it's one guy

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It's one guy with all of this power because he's a guy with all of this dumb power

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So he can't believe there's any kind of system that will eventually tear him down

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Nope

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In the same way that you know Trump is a dictator who can't understand that

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the laws he can't understand that laws are real

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So this part gets a little bit fun here

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Uh-huh

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After the April hearing Judge Snow ordered that the Sheriff's Office turn over documents

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relating to Montgomery's investigation

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These documents include timelines and flowcharts seeming to allege conversations and collusion

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between Judge Snow the DOJ and the law firm of Covington and Burlington which represents

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the plaintiffs in the case

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And factories

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More coats

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Coat factories

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Coat factories

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On Friday plaintiff's lawyer Stanley Young questioned Arpaio repeatedly about Montgomery

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and presented some evidence to try and show Arpaio knew that Montgomery was looking into

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Judge Snow and was personally interested in that probe

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Both Arpaio and his chief deputy Jerry Sheridan testified in this round of hearings

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They didn't ask Montgomery to make those documents

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Sheridan testified earlier in the hearing that he told the detective and sergeant working

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with Montgomery not to pursue the investigations against Snow

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Judge Snow

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Uh this article goes on to explain that uh I want to find the exact part because it's

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fucking hilarious

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Arpaio got a fax

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Young who was employed by Covington and Burlington showed Arpaio

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Children's book

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Arpaio got a fax

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So this uh this lawyer

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You give Arpaio a fax

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This lawyer Young who was employed by Covington and Burlington showed Arpaio had received a

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fax from Montgomery in November 2013 with an early version of a timeline showing events

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in the Department of Justice's racial profiling case and the racial profiling case in Judge

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Snow's court as well as information about alleged wiretaps against the sheriff

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On the back of the fax Arpaio used a typewriter to make some typo riddled notes

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What world are we what decade is a fax in 2013 he uses a typewriter on?

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Are we traveling through time right now?

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It's insane uh he added handwritten notes about possible connections

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He typewrit and hand wrote on the same fucking back of a fax?

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He hand wrote notes

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At least he's not wasting paper

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About possible connections between Judge Snow and the law firm of Covington and Burlington

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He also drew a picture of a dinosaur

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He wrote it he drew his hand and turned it into a turkey

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These notes mentioned that former Arizona senator John Keel worked with the law firm

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Covington and Burling there is no mention uh sorry there's also mention that Judge Snow's

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wife worked there as well which is not true the notes read snow's snow confirmed by U.S.

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Senate Keel on Judiciary Committee on June 26 2008 Obama takes office January 2009

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Judge born 1959 it's all crazy nonsense handwritten scrawled on the back of this

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He's doing numerology

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Yes he's desperately doing yeah he's just making a bet and you add those numbers together and it's

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666 whoa

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All of it is desperately grasping at straws and clearly Montgomery was not working on a

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bank fraud case no he that was cover that he used yeah a handwritten note also noted quote

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uh Will Cox's husband in the 150,000 that's the people that were allegedly being uh being

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targeted as well as the number of Jehovah's Witnesses who are going to make it into heaven

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Will Cox referred to former Maricopa County Supervisor Mary Rose Willcox's husband

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Earl Arpaio said it was a reference to him can we just talk about how those are the

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whitest names in a row you just Earl and Mary Rose Wilcox yeah Arpaio said it was a reference

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to him being among the 150,000 victims of bank fraud that note quote totally floored

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Earl Wilcox who was seated in the courtroom and saw his own name in the document when

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it was displayed on a monitor in the gallery the Wilcox's are vocal opponents of the sheriff

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the sheriff's office had tried to criminally indict Mary Rose Wilcox and she won a civil

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suit against the county for the baseless charges so you get a sense of what's going on here

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uh Arpaio is acting illegally all the time all the time super all the time yeah all the time yeah

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and Montgomery was a confidential informant in quotes who was actually doing pretty illegal

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investigations on his behalf yeah so that's the sort of that's the flavor we've got right now

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I promise you this is going to develop and it's going to be a rose petal blossoming uh I would

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prefer a uh a blooming onion uh from TGI Fridays but if you want to do a rose petal that's fine so

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if you want to be poetic that's fine but I'm an American okay at this point the alleged 151,000

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people who include Donald Trump Alex Jones uh Alex Jones's old office and what have you his private

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office number his old cell phone number his mom's birthday his son's uh bar mitzvah yes his great

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grandmother's she's a slave I don't know anyways that exact same database that's being alleged now

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was used years ago in this court case as alleged uh information of all people who live in Maricopa

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County who are being victims of bank fraud in order to cover for an investigation into a federal

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judge so that's what's going on Alex can't it's possible he doesn't know that he does not know

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any of that all of those words you just said are more words than Alex Jones can understand right

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but again you should have boiled that down into a headline and then maybe Alex Jones could

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understand headline Alex Jones full of shit yeah there you go understand Alex Jones understands

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that you just you just okay here's what you did all righty you uh built a case yeah you then

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gathered evidence for that I researched pretty heavily you put a lot of work and time and effort

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into all of that points to only one possible conclusion that you can then establish is reality

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and I can establish it even further now where do you think in that line Alex Jones would stop

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he wouldn't he just the part where you said here's what we're gonna do you know where he would stop

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as soon as any like indication that he's not totally right he'd just go

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la la la la la la plug up his ears yeah of course no way he understood what you were talking about

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so here's this next clip it's Mike Zullo again getting into how they don't actually know

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anything so I'm gonna I'm gonna come down right now on the side of Alex is being duped because

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he's an idiot I think that it's possible I think that that there's pretty strong indication well

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here's the problem later oh there are so many problems later he's gonna talk about how great

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a guy Joe Arpaio is and he talks to him and stuff like that he talks to Joe Arpaio yeah so I believe

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that there is a vested interest in Alex defending him so I don't know if he's if he's being duped

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he's super willing to be duped yeah but we've established so many times that Alex Jones is

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always super willing to be duped and oh that's true he is a star fucker right so Joe Arpaio has

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a certain amount of fame for being a horrific sheriff monster yeah truly horrific nightmarish

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pile of garbage human being yeah but he's famous so Alex Jones wants to suck up to him right in

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the same way that he wants to suck up to the fucking noodge yeah and that's what this is so

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he's an alleged Nazi Jesse James yeah as well as alleged Nazi uh I'm gonna go since we've got a lot

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of hey now we got a lot of ground to cover so I'm gonna skip this next clip because it's again we

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talked about it earlier it's basically just Zulu repeating in different language that they don't

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really actually know what's going on they don't know what the documents say they they can't it's

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Zulu in Zulu yeah what you're saying so here is here this next clip is Mike Zulu explaining uh

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some of Dennis Montgomery's pedigree and where he comes from which is actually evidence of my

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argument that he is able to discover people's private information through techniques he's able

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to employ on his own right as opposed to Batman who just kind of hangs out in the bushes right

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but what did he tell you he was doing it or he not want to incriminate himself

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well I don't want to go into too much of what he said he said it was similar though a contractor

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like Snowden actually Mr Montgomery and this is public Mr Montgomery was a contractor who developed

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the hacking software that could penetrate firewalls of computers breach them take over

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as the administrator and remain undetected for about an hour and a half and download whatever

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they ghosting him it would and that's my understanding yeah that's for an hour and a half

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that's the time frame that's that's from that's like hey keep them on the line for 20 seconds

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otherwise we won't get his exact location exactly yeah that's bullshit we can mask them for an hour

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and a half why would you build something that only lasts for an hour and a half well because it's a

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lie it is a lie it's a hundred percent a lie I think it might be a lie it's a lie but I do

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believe that he has some hacking skills now I have done some research and figured out exactly

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what uh Dennis Montgomery was doing when he had government contracts the subtitle of this episode

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is Dan has done some research so I told you about Dennis Montgomery he in 2000 or in 1998 he founded

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that company called etrepid technology uh would you call him D Montgomery Burns sure thank you

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thank you uh we're gonna burn him so like I said it started out as like a casino tool you know we

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didn't start the fire though no anyways always been burned uh eventually after they started by

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targeting the casino industry they started to branch out and try and get government contracts

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right in 2003 or thereabouts right around then Dennis claimed that he had developed software that

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would analyze barcodes that appeared on Al Jazeera and he used these decoded uh information that he

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gleaned from these barcodes to predict impending terrorist attacks this is what he developed so

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he's he's a study student of the Kabbalah is that what you're saying right there no Al Jazeera is a

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news network and they have barcodes on it barcodes and he's he's just he so so he's saying that

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they're planning terrorist attacks through the barcodes on Al Jazeera yes and he has developed

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a software that will allow us to predict is so needlessly complicated it kind of makes sense

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no it doesn't but no send a letter so on a horse at that point a gentleman named Tom Ridge was

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Homeland Security Director right of the United States okay and he was convinced enough about

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this software and that it was legit that he used information gleaned from the software to raise

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the terror alert multiple times he went so far as to evacuate public buildings and call for flights

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to be grounded based on interpretations of barcodes on Al Jazeera through Dennis Montgomery's

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software that's not real it is don't tell me that's real it's very tell me we don't live in

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a dumb enough world to believe that shit it's so real that is that's that's legit like you know is

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it is a Kabbalah where it's like they they put certain letters of each page of the Bible that

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correspond to versus weird Bible code stuff yeah like that whole thing where they predict the end

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of the world that's what that is that's exactly what that it's the same sort of logic bullshit

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yeah it's insane that makes no sense uh just because I don't want to ruin where this is

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gonna go like this isn't the wind talkers I don't want to ruin the entire end of this story yet

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but a CIA agent who was involved in like the implementation of this technology and it being

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brought in Jack Ryan he requested anonymity but he was quoted later as talking about the meeting

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where they learned about this information as being this is so embarrassing yeah yeah yeah

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he tried to fight against it but there was no use it was implemented that's the saddest thing hold

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on I'll just spell out the rest of this story now because this is why this is why it's so hard to

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believe in any conspiracy theory is when you find out this shit you're like there's no way they

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could have killed JFK these people might be fucking stupid such incompetence has anybody

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considered that everybody in the CIA is actually fucking a moron but it well not this guy who said

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it was embarrassing fucking a moron but they are a moron but all the but when they when you have

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a conclusion that you want to arrive at and someone gives you like confirmation by plausible

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version of of your conclusion why wouldn't like 9-11 was an inside job right so this guy his

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software Dennis Montgomery his software is implemented and it's used to make terror

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predictions is it a little bit hold on what is it what does it even look like okay so this is

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2003 level software right so he puts it in and this is back when you had to use three by five

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floppies no not not in 2003 what were you CDs probably okay CDs yeah that was that was my

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Encarta period I bet there was where you would have flash drives back then too rudimentary flash

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drives maybe let's go with CDs right sure so we're using we're using let's call it Windows 2000

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you know it's 2003 Windows 2003 well whatever well it's it's Montgomery listen let's call it

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Windows 95 I don't know if we're using this I don't know if it's like MLB the show I don't

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know if there's a new one it's it's like mad build your case um okay so we're using uh

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base windows our first GUIs and this guy puts in a CD that analyzes barcodes on Al Jazeera right

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yeah so that means he's what watching Al Jazeera he's got screenshots of Al Jazeera it takes him

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five minutes to download each picture of Al Jazeera and you pull up a command prompt and it

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looks at it like does one of those like this software had to have been the exact same level

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of technology as where in the world is Carmen Sandiego without Rockefeller yeah exactly that is

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there's no possible way that was even real software it's fascinating that was a random

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number generator it's fascinating that's what he made well here's what happened all right a little

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bit down the line French intelligence and the CIA did a little bit of looking into his software

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and they realized that Dennis Montgomery was just making shit up I knew it yep and I know about

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computers not only that these barcodes on Al Jazeera didn't exist where would you put barcodes

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he just made even that part up about it so the FBI did all right so this dude is a con man of

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ridiculous talents the FBI did a counter investigation into Dennis Montgomery and

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found that he had a quote long history of fraud and he hadn't he hadn't he had an extensive

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gambling problem with deep debts a CIA agent like I said was quoted as saying that the whole thing

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was quote very embarrassing his former lawyer who represented him at that time who actually his name

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is Michael J Flynn which is weird because that's Mike Flynn's name uh son's name it's not the same

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guy as far as I can tell well that's also Michael J Fox's first two names that's true I think we

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can I think we can rule out Michael J Fox there's a lot of coincidences although there he was

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basically this character in the secret of my success right I think so yeah so his former

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lawyer described Dennis Montgomery as quote a con artist and quote a habitual liar engaged in fraud

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that's a guy who defended him good for him yeah so that's the guy that's the guy somehow somehow

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like I I thought he was evil before but once you find out he's a con man then I just get like

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catch me if you can memories in my head where like I'm rooting for him I hope he continues to con the

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authorities boy I'm not why isn't there a movie where everybody like there are too many movies

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where our secret service and our cias and our intelligence community is competent when there's

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so many more stories where they're idiots right right can we have more cias or cia people are

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stupid that deserves our public interest though we like to create and maintain the image that

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everyone's super competent because it keeps us feeling safe I would feel a lot better if I knew

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they were stupid Jordan would you like to hear more about Dennis Montgomery no I have one really

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great do I have a choice yes okay don't yes you don't so in 2006 there was a governor's race

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there's a gubernatorial race and in it Montgomery accused candidate Jim Gibbons and this is in

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Nevada he accused Jim Gibbons of course of bribery he claimed that his own business

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etrepid technologies had given him casino chips and a hundred thousand dollars in cash in exchange

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for favors so wait he just said that he committed bribery yep that was his that was his like here's

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what I did I'm gonna blow the lid off this thing your I committed a crime you're corrupt and I know

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it because I was the other end of it exactly yeah that's a bad strategy it's not great did he even

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ask for immunity beforehand or did he just call a press conference it's unclear so he claimed

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he claimed that they gave him all of this money in exchange for favors right so Montgomery claimed

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that he had emails from Gibbons private email which as we know Montgomery does not know how

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to email but that proved that he was he was not lying about the situation Gibbons said that the

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emails were fake and had been created by Montgomery in court a computer expert testified that he

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must challenge the authenticity of the emails yeah the court case was thrown out an 18-month

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FBI investigation concluded that Gibbons did nothing wrong and cleared him of all charges 18

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months 18 months a us our our intelligence community is actually dumb they're thorough

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though yeah yeah sure a us house ethics committee investigated the charges as well and found no

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wrongdoing now why is this case super important it shows it established Dennis Montgomery is a

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liar an idiot con man and willing to falsify documents super willing there is an indication

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that was born out in court that he has fraudulently created documents and so now

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we're citing his documents on the Alex Jones show now further for different shit now further the

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other case where he created this fake software and was shown to be a hoax gives and the FBI

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investigation showing that he has a history of fraud right all of this shows that he is a

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complete liar he has no credibility and in court has been shown to create false documents and he

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probably committed some crimes probably you know you commit a crime if you if you accuse that dude

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of committing a crime that you then say I also committed yeah isn't that a crime sure but it

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turns out in court that crime didn't happen so Montgomery's off the hook for bribery because

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he didn't do it because he didn't bribe him but he he committed fraud or like libel or he should

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be in prison for making false statements yeah but I don't know how he's not it shouldn't no it's at

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least perjury if there was actually a trial he would have had to testify that and if he had

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testified that then that would be perjury he would have purged himself under oath maybe he

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unless when he went to trial he just said he didn't do any of that he could have like made

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these claims and a uh like a court case is initiated and then he never said anything

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under oath he could have done that exactly but that's what he had to have done probably because

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of course if he had then he would have committed a crime and he would be in jail yeah so this is

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the guy who's the root of these allegations and this fake database that Alex Jones is citing as

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evidence of himself and Trump being spied upon right it's clear at this point that that is not

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true it's absolutely not true you have kicked more ass on that story than anyone has ever kicked I

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promise you it's not done that is that that's an expose that you just did that no one will really

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ever hear and no one cares so you know what the reason they're complaining about how the FBI is

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making no moves on this stuff and there's a media blackout but what we're talking about now is why

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there's a media blackout no one gives a shit this guy has no credibility like what was the yeah you

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just you just kicked it you just kicked the ass you kicked all the ass on this story again it's

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not done we still have to get to Larry Klayman yeah but seriously listen this is amazing this

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next clip uh is so we're still in the Zulu interview and Jerome Corsi who has been silently

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a part of this the whole time butts in to try and vouch for the situation that's going on Jerome

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Corsi is kicking in and I want to play this clip uh just as a little another side argument I want

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to make right after I want to say look I've worked with Mike now for uh since 2011 we worked together

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and I want to say that Mike's as honest as they come he did not want he does not want to be doing

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this I mean he we've been working on this for days and actually a couple of weeks and Mike

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it's like you know pulling teeth he has other things to do he's not even in the sheriff's office

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anymore he's a used car dealer he's a life to lead and you know family to take care of he doesn't need

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to be doing this and it takes great courage for him to do it I'm telling you Mike speaks the truth

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it's carefully put together he's not going to tell you something is so sure the audience knows that

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here's why I played that clip he's desperately trying to provide credibility for Mike Zullo

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right but he doesn't realize that if you look at the history of Jerome Corsi that's a liar

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vouching for your credibility which actually hurts you because Jerome Corsi as we've laid out in the

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past has written a book about Obama's birth certificate being fake yes he was also a member

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of the swift swift boat veterans boating yeah so he is that so when he comes in and says this guy

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is honest as the day is long to me that means oh we just both have the same propaganda goals

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that's all he's saying anyway we're gonna that's him looking and being like dude I love this guy's

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lies we have one more clip this guy's lies are so good we have one more clip of Mike Zullo again

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spelling out very clearly and very overtly that he doesn't know anything there's no information

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that he has and in this clip he even lets slip that he can't even confirm that anybody was ever

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wiretapped which is kind of unfortunate for the outrageous claims he's trying to make well on

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sheriff rpio's account if the timeline and I'm going by memory so I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

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give you dates but my understanding is this alleged wiretapping and you have to understand

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I have to say alleged because we can't verify it but the alleged wiretapping just like you see a

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duck swimming around a pond but you you haven't gotten it for dna testing you can't say that's

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a duck you know there's a it looks like a mallard has a green head it's got it's got orange feet

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it's it's eating moss off the bottom it's swimming around but we think it's tell us more about what

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a duck is like and this is when they were pursuing uh sheriff rpio under a criminal charge um that

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criminal case was dropped and at the same time the individuals that were propelling that case moved

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over to a private law firm and then out of the clear blue a civil proceeding ensued this is

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talking about covington and burling again this is basically what we covered earlier but code

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factories but also let's be clear alex is trying to say that like if you don't have dna testing

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you can't prove it's a duck the expression is if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck

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it's a duck so he's going the other direction with a duck metaphor which i think is fascinating i

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i love it but also again i love his i love the idea that he walks around with his son in the

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middle of the forest being like hey that's a deer hold on one second we're gonna need a blood sample

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hey son fucking prove it yeah prove that's a duck you son of a bitch i caught a trout fuck you and

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also it shows that alex jones has a higher standard of proof about like what is a duck

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than anything else he talks about on his show it's like his standard of evidence is is is glaring so

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we're gonna leave mike zullo now that has been his uh time in the sun as it were i don't necessarily

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have a ton against mike zullo except to say that i found uh evidence uh in an article he's part of

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the joe arpello thing i hope he gets hit by a truck sure that's enough done and done from the

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phoenix old from the phoenix new times i did find an article about the case against our pile

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and it's interesting that mike zullo uh was called to testify and he invoked the fifth amendment what

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a shocker he pleaded the fifth against self-incrimination in court which means

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i mean you're not always guilty when you plead the fifth but in this case it does seem to imply

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if he wants to go out there publicly and talk about how there's a railroading case being done

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it seems to imply if you're in if you're in court you'd want to provide the evidence and go over

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this if you plead the fifth it kind of means that you're afraid of what might come i would argue

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oppositely uh my advice to anyone who is under any kind of trial do not say a goddamn word i

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agree with that that's my advice now whether or not he's guilty he's guilty yeah and whether or

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not he should be in jail he should be and all of those things that's fine but i do think it is

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smart to not say a goddamn thing to the cops ladies and gentlemen so now at this point if

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there's one thing i can tell you don't snitch no snitching so at this point we transition our

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investigation and we go to uh how alex ended the week he had this gentleman who's come up a couple

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times larry clayman yes as a guest on the friday episode of the show meanwhile throughout the week

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he was yelling about this evidence and how it proved everything that he's been saying is correct

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this whole time they have a database that has me and trump in it so now he has larry clayman as a

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guest here is the introduction of how he brings him into the show and the world's greatest claymation

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artist of the world larry the clayman exposing if there is spying going on against the president

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and against congress it's been in the news for years the cia spying on the senate intelligence

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committee now they've come out and congressman nunez has said no i've talked to the experts and

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a little bird told me one of the experts might be joining us on air but i'm gonna leave it at that

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uh here in just a moment larry clayman legendary larry clayman yeah but was the bird a duck we

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can't prove it without dna testing we can't prove what little bird it was but here's where we get

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into where this is could have been a swan could have been a swan when devin nunez yes presented

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this new evidence that he got from trump no he didn't oh he didn't he got it from larry clayman

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larry clayman that's what alex just said and in this interview larry clayman says as much do we

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have any evidence that larry clayman would have talked to him at all only based on larry's word

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and speculation on this uh episode but i do believe it in some ways because the history

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does bear out there is look i can't i can't prove that these liars aren't always lying but

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oh only if only but based on larry clayman's telling of it he had been trying to get this

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information to devin nunez for quite a while and succeeded recently so he tried all of this stuff

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where trump feels like he's been facts i wrote it on the back of that fact typewriter i typewrote

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a fax i threw i threw a paper airplane in the direction of dc again i have been doing everything

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i can to get this information to do this again that's montgomery not uh clayman yes but we as we

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can establish those are the only forms of communication that alex jones and his ilk respect

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one thing that's important to lay out here is that larry clayman is dennis montgomery's lawyer now

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the former lawyer called him a con artist habitually engaged in fraud yes now larry

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clayman is his lawyer the two of them met through joe arpaio when uh joe arpaio was being represented

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by larry clayman and dennis montgomery was the confidential informant so we're having a wonderful

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romantic comedy right now this is the meet queue yeah this is what this is all right they meet

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each other right next to a water fountain yeah accidentally bump into each other we take a slight

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turns into a love triangle we take a slight break from all of this information uh that we've been

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laying out uh in larry clayman's introduction alex jones realizes that you gotta pay the bills

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now we've got larry clayman on who's just so many victories against globalist won the big case

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against the nsa to help expose the stuff was going on years ago the only case out there we've had a

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victory so we're gonna be talking to him in just a moment first off we're listed supported if you

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don't buy the products first off you're crazy we have the best high quality toothpaste back in

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that's organic fluoride free with oil silver and uh the iodine the tea tree the peppermint all of

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it super blue my dad a dentist normal surgeon man manufactured the biggest manufacturer in the

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country who never gave me enough love name it's somebody of mains we can't contractually tell you

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who's our private labeling but this is as iodine a little silver added to it so right there i think

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he might have just breached his contract i mean it's that's not that's not fair to toms of maine

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the contract says you can't say who made it yeah exactly he just did we're not contractually allowed

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to say that it was toms of maine who made oh shit whoops damn it whoops i fucked up there uh so i

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don't i mean i don't mean mains of tom i've not reviewed their contract so i certainly don't know

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i'm sure it's online um so here we go alex jones uh now gets into the full-on bio of larry clayman

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and uh i'll be back in a moment so larry clayman joins us the one over his whole bio it would take

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too long but everybody knows who larry clayman is no one knows who larry clayman is a duck no one

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knows who larry clayman is and he doesn't go over his bio so i will would you like to know

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would you like to know some fun facts about larry clayman sure following clayman's behavior in a

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1992 trial in california federal court judge william keller barred clayman from his courtroom

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for life hold on is it is it a chucky cheese hold on hold on five years later in a separate case in

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new york clayman's behavior led then district judge dennis chin i'm sorry denny chin to issue

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a lifetime ban on the attorney practicing law before him well denny chin sounds like he's in

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the mafia though two judges he's over here two federal judges have barred him from practicing

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law in front of him for life clayman has written about his dealings with can you even do that

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yeah is that a thing you can just do you can just be if you're a judge you're gonna be like

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nope it's essential it's essentially an extreme version of holding someone in contempt you can

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absolutely do you at least get to say he's out of order first of course you bang the gavel yeah yeah

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so clayman has written about his dealings with keller and chin claiming that keller acted quote

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erratic and was quote obviously drunk at the bench i don't believe you that's awesome i don't

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believe you i that's the best way in 2007 clayman received a 25 000 retainer from a daytona beach

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woman facing criminal charges and she accused him of not providing legal services in return

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the florida bar association mediated the matter and clayman agreed to pay off a small portion

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within 90 days but after that did he pay off that 90 days after that deadline passed uh he didn't

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pay he was reprimanded by the association that was it yep they were just like hey hey dude stop

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it bro he's filed at least no you don't have to pay her but come on he has filed at least 18

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lawsuits against the clintons raging from accusations of racketeering to a bunch of shit

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about ben ghazi okay in the wake of the 2016 shooting of a dallas police officer there's

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multiple police officers excuse me yes uh clayman filed a lawsuit against obama former u.s attorney

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general eric holder the nation of islam's leader louis farrakhan al sharp wait and some founders

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of black lives matter movement alleging they had quote incited a race war that led to the shooting

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clayman amended the complaint to include dallas police officer who was shot as the plaintiff and

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hillary clinton and george soros as defense and funnily enough i mean this is super weird but

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i'm reading off your screen uh former san antonio spurs star tim duncan i don't know how he got in

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there but he is part of the conspiracy just wanted to meet him wanted an autograph yeah uh it it's

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implied uh that case it was dismissed oh it was who would have guessed i'm gonna list off a lot

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of cases yeah and all of them all of them have been dismissed yeah so can you just keep doing

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that yeah apparently like nobody's gonna stop you apparently it takes a lot to get disbarred

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what is he what is what even is being a lawyer if you can just do that does he have is anybody

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paying him for this also james carville the raging cajun all right called him like a jackass well

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yeah anyway somebody had to in 1998 clayman sued his mother for fifty thousand dollars did he win

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seeking reimbursement for medical care provided to his maternal grandmother after clayman's brother

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told newsweek magazine of the lawsuit clayman alleged that the clinton white house was

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responsible for the magazine acquiring the information nope it was your brother that

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that's a stretch that's a stretch he did he was unsuccessful so he's just an insane person yeah

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in october 2014 clayman sued the obama administration claiming it secretly allowed

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the ebola virus to enter the united states no that one i believe so it could be used against

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americans totally true of the quote caucasian race and jewish christian religion can't imagine

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any any other possible explanation i think he's right on with that in 2010 he sued to try and

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block the quote ground zero mosque he was involved in that love those lies uh in february 2015

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clayman filed a defamation suit on behalf of dennis montgomery who was just like a divorce

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lawyer what does he do during the day i think he's a media whore yeah well yeah but i mean he's got

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to have it like he is a legit lawyer yeah i know but like what does he do he's probably a sleazy

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lawyer who i don't know who knows listen does he is he an ambulance chaser is he like okay i'm

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gonna sue obama but right after i get you this settlement on your car crash listen show up in

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a cast i mean probably i wouldn't be surprised if he's a better call Saul type of guy yeah i

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bet he's pretty great at it too he's an inveterate liar and he's super good at that so here's where

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he dovetails a little bit with dennis montgomery he filed a defamation lawsuit on behalf of dennis

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montgomery against james raisin the author of a book called pay any price greed power in the

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endless war the lawsuit alleged that raisin falsely described montgomery as quote the maestro

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behind what many current and former u.s officials believe was the most elaborate and dangerous

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hoaxes in american history this is that software we discussed earlier yeah that alleged to be able

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to predict uh terrorist attacks that was based on nothing so that's such a solid bullshitting but

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dennis montgomery how do you how how do you get to be that good of a con man that you can just make

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that shit up i don't know just like here's it and it couldn't have even looked like like that's the

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thing about computers i don't think i don't think he would possibly have been able to show the

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software to anybody he wrote a fake he wrote a fake software thing but because people don't have

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that computer savvy they're willing to be taken in by it yep like they're just like oh this is why

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we can't have old people in power anymore they don't even like we can't do it nope we get like

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they they don't even live in the world we live in anymore right they're like they're unaware the

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like the dnc hacking was not some sort of complicated movie hacking it was podesta

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clicked on a fucking link yeah like that's all it was that's like there's no real hacking going on

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like what people think it is it's just these guys are idiots the hack itself was the least

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sophisticated part of it the bot farms and stuff like that is far more complicated that's amazing

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yeah that's that's really good stuff but again all of this stuff exists because the people that

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we have in power are old and out of touch and pointless sure let me get through uh larry

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clayman's bio here because alex refuses oh we're still we're still there there's more well you know

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what alex was right in saying that he did not have time to get through that we do yeah so clayman

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on behalf of dennis montgomery files this lawsuit of defamation yeah uh in 2016 in july a federal

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court dismissed that lawsuit right it was appealed uh as i as i understand and uh that uh appeal was

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denied that's that's kind of like uh i believe uh marie lapin the the french prime ministerial

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candidate the fascist lawsuit yeah she is legally a fascist according to the law you can and will

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call her a fascist well there's that's a great lawsuit there's two sides of that lawsuit one

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part of it is that she is legally a fascist yes but then the other side of it is that one of the

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judge's findings was that you can't consider it defamation when you're in a political uh sphere

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yeah like just describing someone's political beliefs isn't defamation if there is credibility

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to all i want to hear is that in a court of law she is a fascist larry clayman filed at least

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three lawsuits claiming that obama was not eligible to be president because his birth

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certificate was fake okay he tried to defend cliven bundy as his lawyer good work as we all

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know cliven bundy is a crazy person yep uh as is larry clayman he tried to be as is montgomery he

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tried to be cliven bundy's lawyer but the judge ruled that he uh clayman had been dishonest about

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his history of being censured and disciplined by past courts and he had no clearance or standing to

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assign himself as someone else's lawyer so he was so he so one that means cliven bundy did not want

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his help at all probably not and two i would actually go the opposite direction where the

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judge is like jesus man you said you have been censured more than you actually have why are you

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claiming to have been censured by 20 judges it was just a couple i'm a victim yeah exactly on october

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13th 2013 during the u.s government shutdown clayman declared at a conservative rally in

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washington dc that quote this president is not a president of we the people he's a president of his

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people whoops that's probably racially charged very racist he urged the crowd to begin a quote

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second american non-violent revolution and demanded that president obama quote

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put the quran down and figuratively come out with his hands up weeks later we hey put the quran down

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and get some chicken in you jesus christ you need to eat weeks later clayman sponsored a quote

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reclaim america rally in lafayette square across from the white house calling for the president's

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removal clayman stated that if obama when was the first american non-violent revolution i can't

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think of one i think i think we've had a lot more of the uh of the four of the non uh non-violent

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revolutions clayman stated that if obama did not resign conservative activists would meet to

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establish a quote shadow government whoops bad use of terms considering that now all they talk about

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is how there's a shadow government he's threatening to create one yeah anyway i would like to see him

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try clayman had to get invited to those meetings clayman had encouraged quote millions to occupy

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washington dc but reported attendance to his rally was between 130 and 200 people so not great also

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they're going to talk about this and alex already referenced it a little bit he won a court case

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about so we're talking about his win we're not talking about as many and varied and magnificent

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losses yes we're going to talk about his win yes okay good he had a court case called uh clayman

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versus obama where he was trying to contest the legality of bulk collection of phone and internet

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metadata good that's a good one we can agree that a lot of that shit is dubious like a lot of that

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stuff is is pretty a lot of is illegal it's pretty fucked up a lot of it is horrifying and a police

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state and so on and so forth so he brought this case in front of uh a judge right and the judge

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the judge did not laugh at him here come the judge did the judge not fucking google him this is why

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we can't have old people if you're a judge and you google this fucking guy wouldn't you just be like

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no get it go go go go so and then you would you would be if the judge would have a broom and just

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like shoo him out of the courtroom like it's uh if you can google that's what you should do so

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he it was in 2013 and u.s federal uh judge richard j leon uh he ruled that bulk collection of american

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telephone metadata likely violates the constitution agreed he had insanely legitimate

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concerns about how this program could violate people's fourth amendment rights against

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unreasonable search and seizure and it does and it should be stopped right and it was

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well yeah publicly it was stopped right and that actually comes into the ruling yeah because it

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was ended before this way before that but so he rules in favor of clayman and the guy uh whose

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last name is strange which is kind of fun uh they were the two defendants or plaintiffs i can't

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remember and the original trial was held in the astral plane yes yeah that makes sense so they

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brought this case and the judge agreed with the arguments that metadata collection violates the

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fourth amendment bulk metadata what he did in his ruling was to say i suspend my judgment for six

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months to allow the government to appeal because the government is going to appeal this yeah so in

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his ruling he said that he made an injunction that any uh metadata collection regarding strange or

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clayman had to stop and every uh bit of information that had been collected about them had to be

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destroyed yet he stayed his ruling for six months allowing for appeal so the appeal was what he

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means is that during that six months they can still collect their metadata no or during that

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same no if he's suspending his ruling that yeah nothing has to change for the next six months if

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the government doesn't respond then the ruling stands exactly well the government did respond

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what a shocker and uh basically the appeals court found that because the program had been ended they

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didn't have a responsibility to rule on the legality of the fourth amendment claims yes

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secondarily they found that there's no evidence that could be provided that clayman or strange

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actually were spied on at all or had their metadata collected and therefore they had no

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standing in court to bring this case so even though the government did collect bulk metadata

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because they couldn't prove their metadata was collected yes they're kicked out well because

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they can't represent the entirety of the american people part of their argument was that they are

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verizon customers and that the government had admitted that they collected verizon

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metadata yeah but the thing is most likely their metadata was collected hold on the government

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the government admitted that they collected business uh data through verizon like verizon

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business customers not individual you and i cell phone owners they collected things through a

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different part of verizon's business no i admit this is dubious yeah i don't like that i think

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i don't like that defense at all i think it's sketchy as fuck yeah but i do think that based

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on the law and based on like i'm i'm telling you i read these court decisions yeah i know because

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you're a lunatic and i don't think that they the decisions were wrong i think the appeals court

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was right he didn't have the standing but at the same time the conclusion is correct that

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metadata collection is an unreasonable search and seizure yes so he was right and they probably

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stopped it wink wink well i i think i think it has in a lot of ways yeah i don't know who cares

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i just don't trust yeah yeah i just don't trust it based on all the information we can find it

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has stopped uh based on what we're afraid is actually the truth it hasn't yeah so anyway

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larry kleiman is right on that count uh he he had the right idea he's wrong about everything else

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yeah his claims that he beat the nsa in a court case is wrong he uh had a case where they agreed

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with him or they were inclined to agree with him suspended judgment and then appeals court shot it

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down anyway let's get into it let's enjoy this you're so tired you're you're exhausting yourself

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i'm this is the most work i think any human being has ever done yeah here's where this next clip is

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where uh larry kleiman i love sitting on this side of the table this clip larry kleiman tries

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to do a little bit of a dance where he has to be sure that he has not seen any of the information

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he's this guy's lawyer but he hasn't seen any of it okay we on sunday via some other folks that

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work with us publish some things that have been out there in federal court showing that trump

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was being surveilled claiming that separate from that he's not involved in that he was involved

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though getting that cia whistleblower basically to come forward and so he's been trying in the

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system for a long time to do this he's also the guy that has won supreme court court so he's

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separate from that but from a different angle newsmax.com he also has had his articles and

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things published there i apologize that was alex trying not to implicate himself and uh larry got

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you gotcha in the dance um so you're right i am exhausted it's been a long weekend yeah uh so

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here here is larry breaking down what he sees as montgomery's case yes i've kind of prefaced things

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correct where i'm wrong whatever just let's get into the meat and potatoes of a classified case

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you're involved in this dangerous to get into but really is a rosetta stone or a skeleton key to so

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much yes this is important because dennis montgomery is really kind of the successor

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to mr benny who just had on and i take my hat off to mr benny as well actually representing him for

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a while uh going back as a whistleblower he had benny the technical head of the nsa oh okay i got

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you as we know he he spouted a bunch of bullshit uh and also also on this episode he had as a guest

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some guy uh whose nickname is tanto spiranto i don't like any of those words you just said

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he's a guy who survived the benghazi attack and uh tanto spiranto he's the hero of benghazi

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and uh he was he was he you know what he came off as is fairly reasonable but also pretty aggressive

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uh and at the end of the interview he said like hey you know what if people are afraid like if

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they want to arrest george soros and they're afraid i'll do it i'll go in i'll do it so

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alex later uses that as like he's like hey tanto spiranto was on he said he's ready to arrest

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george soros he's like well that's not quite what he said he just said if you're afraid and we

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should arrest him i'll go in and do it i'm gonna i'm a marine you know and so he's like he thinks

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that he should be arrested he's ready to go do it himself they're just being held back to a real

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marine yeah he survived benghazi do we know that i don't but i know i do he there's a movie about

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him like he's a real dude oh he's a real dude i can't remember he survived benghazi i can't

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for i can't and now he's going on alex jones's show i can't remember his first name but he goes

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by tanto well i'm against it i'll be honest he seemed like a pretty decent dude as far as alex

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jones's guests to go but yeah but that's a low low low bar he has probably been kicked out of

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only one court and never allowed to be there and four apple beads so in this day he's had tanto on

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he's had william or uh richard benny uh-huh william benny i can't remember his first name

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now he's the technical head of the nsa who's mostly muslim baiting stuff yes uh and then now

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he has larry clayman on so that's who he was referring to in that we've had a lot of guests

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recently he has to man he's he's scrambling yeah wow he's scrambling also you can kind of hear it

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in his voice he doesn't have the he doesn't have the fire he's losing it he doesn't have the heart

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i don't know hope maybe next week uh will be different you know this this week uh he started

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with the at the end of the week that we're covering right now which was last week when

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you're listening uh you know he did his big pizzagate apology maybe that could reinvigorate

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him a little bit we'll see uh but anyway here we go back to clayman but dennis montgomery was an

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nsa cia contractor and he left the nsa and cia with 47 hard drives over 600 million pages of

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information much of it classified again uh when the only evidence we can find of him being a

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contractor at all is creating that software that analyzes aljazeera yeah it's questionable whether

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in that capacity he would have access at all right to 47 hard drives or 600 million documents if he

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if he did have all those things yeah that's pretty crazy and he must have been going way outside of

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his way right in order to get those things yeah i mean is massively illegal yeah but it's all

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it's all the bad things it's all the bad things and uh so here we go this next clip is larry

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clayman coming in much like uh mike zullo and uh really trying hard to make sure that people don't

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think that he's seeing the documents and i felt that we needed to take him to sources in government

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who could do something that could listen to what he had to say because much of it's classified i

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can't see it and we needed to put it in the right hands so i went to a federal judge by let's be

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clear you had it but you wouldn't look at it i didn't look at it he had it he had the 47 hard

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drives i never took possession of 60 million pages 600 committed a crime million i didn't

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and what he told me what was on there was that there was surveillance on the chief justice of

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the united states other justices 156 judges uh president trump when he was a businessman

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other prominent businessmen and yours truly oprah the amount of oprah winfrey so let's let's take

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a stack let's take a second and take a step back the only time that he could have possibly had

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access to nsa cia documents is around the period of 2003 that's the period of time when he was

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involved and was massively discredited yeah he was thrown out with prejudice yeah the fbi did

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a counter investigation on him and found to be a fraud there's no way he would ever be able to get

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any sort of clearance after that no so in 2003 2004 unless i'm listening that uh that aljazeera

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software did work was in fact a trojan horse interesting have you considered this right so like

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uh uh uh captain america shield i'm listening or the which is the other one the acronym uh

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the avengers no no the the bad guys uh hydra cobra you're talking about gi joe hydra okay uh

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uh from the very beginning like from the very beginning because the aljazeera software was

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on there montgomery has pinpoint accurate information from every level of government

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because he is actually the guy who originated all of it see now ockham's razor tells me you're

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right i don't like simplest explanation obviously obviously that's the one but the point is he can't

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possibly have information stolen of course not past that date in the early 2010s he's working

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with joe arpaio and he has this database of maricopa county residents yeah that are being

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victims of bank frauds which is now being repurposed as people who are being spied on

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including trump alex jones all this shit well before we even go any further 600 million sounds

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so fucking made up where do you get 600 million documents like genuinely what what area of the

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government other than maybe that bulk metadata collection system yeah would have anything close

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to 600 million anything and even if it was the bulk metadata that's not documents that's just

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point by point uh gps location and that kind of shit yeah so where would you get 600 million

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documents and it would be like i said from uh 14 years ago yeah and i mean like is is there even

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that much information in the fucking library of congress probably not like in the in the archives

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of all the stuff yeah i don't know 600 million is made he might as well have said one kajillion i

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have one kajillion doc might as well yeah and that's obvious bullshit and again an important

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point is that larry klayman is coming out as a lawyer uh being on alex jones's program to discuss

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this stuff that he well for legal reasons he is coming on as a private citizen but he only has

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secondary knowledge of he has no idea what's actually in these documents because it's illegal

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for him to know what's on in the doc exactly it's much like roger stone saying his doctors said he

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had polonium poisoning they can't refute that yeah it's illegal yeah yeah doctor patient yeah yeah

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how it's these same games that are so it's propaganda games even then right you got 600

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million documents you're not gonna take a look at one come on man i don't know you gotta take a look

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at one you gotta you gotta get a taste of the coke to make sure that it's real i'd be so scared

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right i would be you don't i'd probably run away you know you do not well yeah that's why you

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don't buy my drugs dennis montgomery comes up to me i scream and run the other direction i'm like

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i don't want any of these 47 hard drives as everybody knows you take your coke uh pinky

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nail you put it into the coke you make sure that the coke is high quality so at this next clip yeah

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this next clip is uh clayman confirming that he did in fact uh discuss things with devin nunez

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chairman nunez last monday said come forward with information and that's what we've done and we've

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told them and i'm glad you said because i have other sources you're one of six sources nunez has

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including nsa cia you're an outside source they corroborated what he was already being told he's

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know all this but they stonewall in the agencies now they have whistleblowers because it's the

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president they're lying about him so they should do this coming forward and and so and so now

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nunez is is is thanks to you and others able to say this so either all of this is just uh fantasy

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world lies and all that or there's a possibility that he did in fact talk to nunez and that's where

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he's got even more terrifying and that's where he got a lot of this information that has led to this

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very confusing period in our history right where nunez is acting up uh and not certainly not acting

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as uh the house intelligence committee chairman should no he should be fucking destroyed and if

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he is acting in fact on this information that has its roots in uh uh someone who is a complete

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uh con man uh engaged in habitual fraud well and even like dennis montgomery even then nunez

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himself came on again and said that documents show no indication of wiretap on trump tower

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i think nunez himself walked back all of this bullshit i think it's a like a zigzag of nunez

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being shook because there was uh that thing that came out the other day about uh flinn the inner of

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the meetings that he had with the uh turkish ambassador right about uh ex extraditing this

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gulen guy who turkey erdogan wants uh to be extradited because erdogan believes that this

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cleric was responsible for the coup attempt the fake coup attempt uh we can't prove that the coup

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attempt was fake i'm pretty sure it was totally fake uh so he wants this guy extradited and the

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united states uh does not believe it would be appropriate and flinn was being paid to help

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extradite this guy right that came out that the meeting between flinn and the turkish ambassador

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was also attended by devin nunez he was also there really yes so now with the with the information

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he might be complicit with that because now we have information that maybe uh flinn has turned

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uh states evidence yeah at this point on sunday when we're recording this it's still not sure

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nobody's confirmed anything could come out any day right there's indications and sources

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anonymous sources are indicating that he might have cut a deal which again i you know anonymous

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sources are anonymous sources grain of salt fucking alex jones has anonymous sources so

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that doesn't mean anything no but the timeline kind of suggests that maybe this is a possibility

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yeah i mean it's it's it's possible it's not proven it's not definite and the hard part to

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the only part that's hard to swallow about him turning states evidence is if you look at all

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of this shit everybody would go down yeah so either there's genuinely the entire government

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gets taken down from top to bottom not everyone not everyone but like a shit ton of people in

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power a whole lot of the right or it's not as big a deal as we think it is or it's somewhere

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in between it's hard to say i think the truth is probably somewhere in between and it's it

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but the reality is that like all that stuff that isn't we can't prove we can prove that nunez was

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in that meeting with flinn and the turkish ambassador no and that doesn't look good nunez

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is in the fucking balls of trump that's what it is and nunez is given handies uh with a little

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bit of prostate stimulation to trump every possible chance he can and there is that

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documentation of him disappearing the night before he went to the white house yeah apparently meeting

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with somebody like there's a lot of stuff that's real fucked up yeah so no every the entire the

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entire american government should be shut down for a while my thought nobody should be allowed

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to do anything my thought is that i don't think he was meeting with larry clayman that night

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uh but some of that stuff does relate to this i think he was actually meeting with larry flint

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that night it's possible it's it's entirely possible uh but he did he's dead i don't know

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he's probably dead he's one of those guys who i don't care if he's alive or dead so i have no

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idea he's done good works great but what i'm saying is essentially that a lot of this stuff

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uh that that nunez's behavior while not singularly motivated by this montgomery information which we've

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pretty clearly i think on this episode shown to be bullshit or at least i don't think i don't

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think it's possible to be much clearer that it's bullshit uh but i i think that he part of his

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behavior was influenced by yeah clayman and the montgomery information yeah also the conspiracy

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theory community is a flame there's a lot of like on the blogs and on the message boards there's a

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ton of stuff about why are people investigating montgomery i just did yeah suck it well this is

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even more this is kind of even more interesting is that like we we denigrate the conspiracy

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theory blogs and yet at the same time it's hard not to look at reality and go some kind of

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conspiracy is happening sure or there's been such a confluence of idiots happening all at the same

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time in this weird coincidence yeah that and that's that's almost as likely as anything else

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i think it's just as like like like with the montgomery thing right yeah those idiots believe

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that shit yeah like it's just as likely what's going on right now is that everybody's just

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fucking stupid well i or there's a fucking conspiracy pushed by russia and all this shit

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i think that you've touched on something important that i've been wanting to bring up for a while and

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i'll just deal with sort of slightly and that is that as we talk about how much of a liar alex

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jones is and all this stuff is bullshit i don't want to paint with a broad brush all people who

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believe in conspiracy theories as the same they're not there are a lot of people who are very smart

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and do real good research the idea that we would be denigrating the entire conspiracy community

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by attacking alex jones is unfair and i think that it's easy to make that assumption if we're

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not clear about it there's a lot of people who also believe alex jones is full of shit

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but believe in conspiracies and god bless them there's there are those people chemtrails gotta

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come sure but there are there are not stupid crazy people in that world unfortunately there

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is a lot of stupid crazy people in that world and we fall somewhere between yes yes absolutely so

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this next clip uh is larry klayman explaining why this is a matter of immediate importance this is

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something that has to be dealt with now or never exactly like how we need to finally get to the

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bottom of obama's birth certificate now or never and i will file three court cases about it it's

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kind of time to go public you know well yeah and we want to do it in the right way by bringing on

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your show in front of people this is bigger than snow this is 600 million i know why you've been

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young right right because there's so much there and and here's the reality it's bigger than yours

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it's no montgomery could die as a brain aneurysm he needs to be interviewed immediately for those

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that don't know it's when the artery is puffing out it can blow anytime put him under oath okay

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he's willing to come forward he's risked his life here this guy's a hero he's risked his life he's

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come forward you know how a brain aneurysm works right like at any point in time any of us could

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just die from a brain aneurysm i'm dead yeah that's that's a nonsense thing yeah it's not

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like he has cancer that's like he could die from a lightning strike at any moment he needs to be

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interviewed right now but again it's it's just trying to create a sense of immediacy about it

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it's also trying to create sort of a tragic hero story around this uh obvious liar what possible

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reason could you have to interview him now i'd like to interview him that's a good point if we

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could get dennis montgomery on this podcast i'm in i'm gonna see him on all of our emails because i

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got a lot of questions i've got a ton of fucking questions so this next uh what's your perfect

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sunday mr montgomery that'd be my first question that would be our first question first date

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bistro or movie why did i say bistro i have no idea i've never been to a bistro what are you

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talking about you don't have it i legitimately think i flashed back to like french classes

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i think my brain just like yeah are you doing before midnight at us what is happening i love

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that movie uh of course you do i also love richard linklater which is so confusing that

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he puts alex jones in two of his movies anyway if richard linklater is out there i'd love to

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talk to you too we're the next star fucker i'd like to talk to you about how interesting boyhood

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was but it wasn't a good movie anyway this next clip uh larry klayman gets into talking a little

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bit more about uh montgomery himself and brings in the joe arpaio situation uh so enjoy it but

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they there's no proof i looked him up but but just just a minute or two on montgomery and why

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this is so important where we think this database came from that's right generously people i mean

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uh excuse me alex people have tried to destroy his credibility that's what they've done with

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president trump from these agencies people and that's what we have done it's so easy we have

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successfully done that it's so easy we didn't even try to destroy his credibility all i mean

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you did all it took was like a couple google searches again and google and just a couple

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like just read a couple articles like it's not that hard you find this guy is a massive

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snake oil salesman he's a fraud and if he wasn't being used for propaganda purposes i agree with

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you he would be fun it would be fun it would be like is he gonna make it there's there's

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gonna pull this off there's yeah there's always a part of me that's gonna be on the side of the

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guy trying to fuck with the fbi i think that there also is an archetype of that like down and out

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two-time loser gambling loser kind of guy he's just like trying to pull one last score one big

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score that's gonna solve all of his problems we're we're as our culture we're all ingrained to pull

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for that like we all want to see the little guy strike out against the system yeah and it's

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unfortunate that this little guy striking out against the system is being used propagandistically

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to support the system yeah it seems like we all want a robin hood and they all wind up being not

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robin hood well it's robin hood who's working for the uh sheriff of nottingham yeah it turns out

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yeah yeah that's that's all anyway here we go murderous monstrous sheriff of nottingham

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you know what we got to get back to sheriffs being the most important anyway that fucking

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nonsense the the sheriff's movement all that stuff oh i hope that's for another no fuck everybody

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this reporter this hack reporter jame ryzen of the new york times hack reporter that's the guy

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who wrote the book uh about that involved uh the fraud that montgomery pulled and again

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larry clayman as lawyer for dennis montgomery sued this writer was unsuccessful the case was

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thrown out of court of course so now he's coming on alex jones and saying he's a hack reporter

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no he's not you failed you know smear him but that actually confirms that he is the guy that

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you need to talk to because he knows where the bodies are buried no pun intended and sure somebody

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is getting demonized nowadays especially you know that's not a pun yeah they're good guys and in

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terms of what happened after in arizona with sheriff our pile i represented in a in the

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successful amnesty case that knocked out obama's immigration order uh our pilot wasn't served well

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by his lawyers that didn't happen that didn't happen with regard to dennis montgomery he somehow

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got dragged into that which is why we're proceeding on a separate track and i sympathize with sheriff

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our pile and he's a great man yeah i've talked to him he's staying out of this right but alex

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jones there's like i've talked to him he's staying out of this he's not staying out of this if you

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say our pile is a great man i automatically wish for your death you lose all automatically wish

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for your death yeah like legit you do not belong in this world you 100 don't or you're not at

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least you're not in touch with your own humanity you're a sociopath uh but then alex being like

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i've talked to our pile he's staying out of this our plan reason our pile said that

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montgomery's investigation was junk that's a good reason to stay out of it so now i want to bring

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this back to this uh phoenix news article that i was talking about earlier right uh and i want to

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i want to just play this out again remember young is the lawyer that's trying the case against our

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pile according to reports presented in court in november 2014 two outside experts with experience

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with the nsa evaluated montgomery's hard drives for the sheriff's office and concluded that

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montgomery was quote a complete and total fraud young brought this young brought this up in court

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to our pile quote quote at least by november 2014 you knew dennis montgomery was a fraud that's the

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question that young asked quote that was putting it lightly our pile said

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that was putting it lightly our pile said okay noting they had been working uh they've been

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working montgomery for a year at that point quote so we decided to stop paying him

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young went on to present email records showing members of our piles team were still in touch

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with montgomery for months after that into 2015 quote would a law enforcement officer have to be

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incredibly stupid to continue working with someone known to be a complete and total fraud young

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asked our piles attorney john masterston objected to the question which judge snow sustained how

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can you sustain that i mean it's i think it's leading okay it's leading technically that is

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leading technically that would be conjecture however now i i'm gonna go with yes the answer

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is yes as humans it's a fair question in court it's dubious probably not probably not so uh

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after court masterston accused young of insulting the sheriff young uh reminded our pile that judge

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snow had asked him in april whether montgomery had investigated judge snow and our pile never

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brought up the timelines which again were the faxes with the weird typewriting on the back

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or other documents montgomery had made that included judge snow quote i never thought of

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that timeline when he asked me the question our pile said quote do you regret not telling him

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those things in april young asked quote in retrospect maybe i should have brought it up

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but it never came to my mind at that time uh our pile said uh and this is yeah so fuck you

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you so the idea that our pile is staying out of it is really not really relevant he's admitted

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in court that this guy is a complete and total fraud yeah but also admitted that he kept working

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with him or his department kept working with him yeah after he was showing he's a genius after nsa

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uh investigators evaluated his hard drives see as a fraud now this is again this is like the

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marie lapin fascist situation you should be allowed to prove in court that our payo is an idiot

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i think it is a legal imperative the only reason i disagree is because under it's it's irrelevant

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like that i don't think it's irrelevant if you were to bring a court case specifically designed

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to prove that he's an idiot then it's relevant but because it's a contempt of court case uh-huh

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it's it's irrelevant to the matter at hand that's why the court has to dismiss true are you an idiot

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which i i still love that the attorney although in the eventual death penalty trial that our payo

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should be under jesus you probably shouldn't prove that he's an idiot unless you're in texas in which

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case you can still execute him yeah uh so uh at this point clay once again guys you should execute

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jarapayo i don't think he doesn't deserve it i'd like to see a court trial though oh man like i

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don't be executed i don't want any violence to happen to him except for sanctioned because of

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his actions don't believe in the death penalty believe that he should be executed again i want

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to be clear that me and jordan know a ton more uh than is on this podcast and please look into joe

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our payo's history yeah it sounds like we're being severe based on what we've talked about

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in this podcast not even close real talk we had to edit some stuff out i nearly cried i'm not joking

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you almost not joking and almost fainted we had to pause i had to go outside and walk around just

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based on how bad a dude this is and he didn't even get halfway through that shit yeah so please look

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into that uh again our pile is a monster uh but we have to get back to the matter at hand which

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is this interview with larry clayman where he insists that all his shit is credible yeah and

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then beyond that he goes to lay the blame uh for what uh like the trump spying and all this shit

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on people who are no longer in office the current predicament is the fault of people who have not

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been involved for quite a while ah shadow government go through this well that's what i

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when i was weeks ago talking to corsey he talked to the white house and so did i they all know it's

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real and we're like get Montgomery in or make a press conference and then they're just like we'll

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check and i don't know what's going on but i don't know why that hasn't happened well don't trust the

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intelligence agencies to give you the truth because as mr benny just said they lie okay i agree with

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that i want to be clear generally i agree yeah that's that's a generally true statement a lot

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of times you got to take things that intelligence agencies say with a grain of salt if somebody says

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anonymous sources within the government you should probably be aware that there is a reason those

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anonymous sources are sharing that information but sometimes generally not to share the truth

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sometimes it's manipulative sometimes it is people protecting their absolute confidentiality so i

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mean like it goes both ways sometimes it is legit sometimes it's not but you should definitely know

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in advance that there's a very you know the most a 70 30 manipulative the message i think that is

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most important is that intelligence communities do lie to people a lot of the time but sometimes

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they don't i mean it's technically their job you should look for evidence yeah you should look for

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truth as opposed to claiming or disbelieving what things are said to you right everything just take

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take things as they come to you look for facts have a knowledge

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i've realized legitimately legitimately that was the smoothest you've ever been

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legitimately it's the wine that's it we're drinking storyteller wine so i'm getting in

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that you're right legitimately i'm getting to the point where i'm realizing that if i

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ever want this to take off i'm gonna have to start mimicking some of alex jones's behaviors

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so i'm going to start with look for facts you dumb fucks all right but meanwhile our listeners

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are really awesome and they're really cool yeah i don't think that you guys are idiots

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maybe a couple oh jesus no i don't know what's wrong with you i'm just assuming we have like

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just like statistically what are you trying to do the people that i've communicated with seem

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really awesome but i got to assume there's some dum-dums in there i listen what are you doing

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right now this is the one guys guys we've had a we've had a rough podcast from time to time

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i have just learned more about joe arpeo and you'll understand where we're coming from i've

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just blamed the wine for me being smooth and for me lashing out at hypothetical listeners this is

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great this is why we don't record on wednesdays wednesdays is dan's therapy day yeah anyway here

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we go back back to this where he blames like uh clapper and what have you i'm sorry for putting

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your personal business up i think i've done it in the past myself totally punch it they're covering

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up you have two very corrupt people under the obama administration to run the director of

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national intelligence clapper who's a certified liar who lied under oath i was about to say why

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are these people still in trump needs to get rid of all he got his certification from trump

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university well trump needs to get rid of all these dudes who are no longer in office it's

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time he got rid of him clapper is not yeah but it's time to get rid of him got to get rid of him

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yeah first gone john brennan former ci he's gone former i like how always he's corrupt as well he

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tried to destroy trump i mean he didn't he just i the the example that alex keeps going back to

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is that uh clapper uh who's gone uh john brennan who uh was also gone he's gone now yeah but he

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when trump got elected in between him being sworn in he said that he should watch his mouth he

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should be careful about the things he says right which i mean sure it's such a childish way of

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doing it's a little sassy motherfucker watch your mouth yeah i mean talk shit get hit this is the

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kind of uh message don't snitch i get i get where alex's interpretation of it being like hey boy

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watch your mouth that kind of thing i don't like the way you said that look i know that boy has

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racial connotations that's not that's not in play that's the wine talking again not in play

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i get where alex takes some umbrage at that but i also would understand how anybody who's in the

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intelligence community recognizes the stakes of the president running his mouth yeah how you can

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piss off foreign powers accidentally which trump has done as he's done a lot of times well he

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didn't even fucking shake merkel's hand like a pussy so but he can do these things to insult

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foreign powers that are our allies that we have deep deep blood-filled alliances with and he can

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insult them and you should watch your mouth you should be really careful what you say you should

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use diplomacy now there's a reason we have a department that is entirely devoted to diplomacy

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and there's a reason you fill that department with people who can be diplomatic who are diplomats

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instead what he did exxon guy was put an exxon mobile guy in there who actually has been quoted

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as saying he didn't want the job and his wife said do it you should do it yeah and then they

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have not staffed that department definitely not with any career diplomats everybody is confused

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yeah angry frustrated and now that's aren't involved now the head of that department is

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saying hey we might fucking bomb north korea yeah we're not having a good time of it no

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our our foreign po- you know like it's it's strange to be so obsessed with domestic policy

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when we are bombing the shit out of syria yeah killing more civilians than we've killed in so

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long repeatedly non like it's not even defensible that they are military targets when we've offended

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so many of our allies yep when we've fucking threatened so many countries at this point this

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is why the wine is necessary this clip is larry klayman saying that everything in the world

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essentially is obama's fault excellent if you follow the evidence here i'm certain that

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president obama's sitting on top of this he must have known he's actually windsurfing on top of it

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right now again he's talking about all this information that montgomery has that he hasn't

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looked at from before obama was president so again he's sure that it's all obama's fault

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probably but he hasn't looked at any of it so great i take your word for it larry klayman guy

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who is clearly incredible master of claymation i'm sure he directed it sure they always direct

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everything they're totally command and control but i thought it was above obama he doesn't

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who do you think who gave the order originally above obama soros it had to go to obama ultimately

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okay i mean you can blame it on the minions but the buck stops on his desk and i want to make one

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other point out in other countries of the world israel brazil other countries they hold the top

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executive accountable they did we've never done that it's time that's a super unfortunate that's

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such a weird list and it's a dumb example israel apartheid country brazil recently had a coup you

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know other countries the good ones the ones where they hold their leaders responsible

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benjamin netanyahu has never been held responsible for any of the war crimes that he's committed and

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the brazilian president is literally not allowed to run for president he is legally barred from

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running for the job he currently holds that he obtained by purely illegal means so he uses these

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two countries as an example to make a point about how obama who's not long is no longer the president

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needs to be held responsible for bullshit lies that he's peddling on alex jones's show right

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and then alex is like i totally agree it's so fucking stupid it's so stupid it's incredibly

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it's insane like you could probably it's the fbi buying software based on aljazeera's barcode stupid

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yeah it's right up there it's oh it's it's a italian cuisine of stupid that's the last clip

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that i have from larry clayman's interview okay if you want to know more about him uh and you want

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him to speak his piece check your local library yeah uh he probably has written books i didn't

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look into that but if you want to hear his entire argument laid out i will link it on the website

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he has an article that he wrote in newsmax that just lays out his entire argument about montgomery

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it's all lies but at least if you go there it's basically all the stuff i cut out from the episode

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right because it's just boring and a lot of it was covered by mike zullo so like a lot of it

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is just repetitious uh here is a fun clip uh clayman doesn't say anything but this is alex

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jones just trying to uh really desperately make you believe that the people he has on his show

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are real just just not sesame street puppets claymation okay these guests 99 out of 100 are

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accurate none of us are perfect but we try to tell the truth we try to get it right no you don't but

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sometimes you know if the innocent or those that are questioned will get harmed we have to also

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admit we've been wrong fake pizza get apologies about but our hearts are in the right place

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they're trying to change the world i hate you yeah so i mean like your guests are 99 accurate

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fake pizza gate apology i legitimately don't know how you would quantify what percent your guests

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are accurate but i know that if there was a system 99 is ambitious there's no way even for a reputable

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news site 99 seems ambitious right i think the most respectable news sources that i trust have

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maybe 80 yeah yeah i was gonna say 75 is amazing to me i'm saying that's why i said maybe yeah

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maybe and that's hot yeah i like i said i told you on the last episode i've been reading foreign

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policy right and a lot of your wonk i'm a wonk a lot of the stuff that i've been reading in there

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it seems incredibly credible i've looked into uh things that are cited and absolutely it backs up

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uh so like but i still think that they get things wrong from time to time yeah of course

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it's every citizen's responsibility to take in media and news and then evaluate it that's your

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responsibility it's not the media's responsibility to be right every time when they're wrong it is

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their responsibility to to own up to it exactly and to write a correction and to make sure that

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everybody knows that which places like the new york times washington post these sorts of uh

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establishment uh institutions do on a regular basis they do they perhaps don't do as loudly

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as maybe they should yeah they do it yeah but people for the most part it's unfortunate because

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this weekend again alex jones came out with his apology about pizza gate his bullshit apology

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but he doesn't apologize for things that he says nope he he never does and this pizza

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gate apology is not evidence that he does apologize for things because even packaged

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within that apology is a defensive yeah and it's throwing other news organizations onto the bus

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it's like hey they said it we're reporting on it right what do you want to do we made a mistake but

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our mistake was really trusting other people it wasn't us uh doing not doing our due diligence

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yeah and if they had done any due diligence they never would have reported any of that shit

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nope because it's bullshit and i i'm not even a news outlet and i did my due diligence about

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pizza gate you did it truly this episode is not about you did way more due diligence than a lot of

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media outlets we're about to wrap up this episode but before we do i have a couple more clips that

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are just kind of fun uh-huh this one oh god i needed those this one uh jerome coursey

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has been he wasn't on the phone during the clayman interview right this goes back to the

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he was again just sitting in the corner singing uh zippity-doo-dah yeah slightly racist disney

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song right so this one uh is i don't know why that came to my head it's a good song though if

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you take the racist part out of it zippity-doo-dah zippity day my oh my what a wonderful day that's

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fun anyway let's not unpack let's let's not unpack tar baby and unholyness all right but uh so

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jerome coursey was in the background essentially for the entire mike zullo interview and then once

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mike zullo gets off the phone alex jones has got to kiss uh jerome coursey's ass for a little while

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so he says this clip he says this clip and it's one way of looking at things and when after the

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after the clip i'll explain the better way of looking at things okay i mean and your articles

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are all so powerful and either from high level leaks or or the white house you're pointing out

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what needs to be looked at notice everything you write for us everything else we write gets picked

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up in the news everything you write your total blacklist which shows you are really on target

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my friends i want to thank you and cock cock cock well his uh his argument listen everything we

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write everybody looks at everything you write nobody looks at nailed it that's how on target

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you are nailed it nobody wants to read your bullshit yeah yeah that's like a that's like

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a bullshit ad for him right everything paul joseph watson does everyone loves that yeah

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but stuff you do everyone ignores it may it must mean you're super on target yeah you're you're

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like a conspiracy theorist conspiracy theorist or it might mean that you're widely discredited even

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in wonky yeah conspiracy theory community even though when i say wonky i don't mean wonky like

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policy wonk i mean wonky like not functioning like like having a wonky leg yeah exactly yeah

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i got you it's unfortunate that it's the same word i realize now but like well i mean so far

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we've seen that paul ryan's wonkiness is wonky it's it's absolutely him malfunctioning it's

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perhaps broken uh so we have one more clip uh left to play and this is what i would like to call the

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parting shot uh generally i like to try and come up with something that uh really sums up uh

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the feeling of things right so i have not done that so if you don't want to listen to two and

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a half hours of us talking a tldr feel free to go to the last five minutes where you will have

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a good clip for him uh but before we get to this clip let's just give a slight in summation of

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everything we've covered yes monsters liars frauds idiots everybody involved with the alex jones show

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is all of those things yes that's pretty much what we've covered i think you did a good uh

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real brief summation i'm gonna try for a little bit more do you want more explanation you gave

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the bones you gave the bones i'm put a little meat five five so the meat on that bones is that

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joe arpaio is a complete monster he is uh guilty of racial profiling and so so much worse um he

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is absolutely terrible he was not being wiretapped by any information that is publicly available

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deserve the death penalty he had a confidential informant named dennis montgomery who is a proven

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liar who has a history of fraud catch me if you can has a history of trying to set up people with

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fake documents uh and uh clearly is lying yeah his now lawyer larry clayman is a complete islamophobic

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bigot he has tried multiple times to have frivolous lawsuits against liberals kicked out of two courts

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forever uh for life for life uh was not allowed to be cliven bundy's lawyer which is crazy yep

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uh and so these are the characters that we're dealing with alex jones takes this third-hand

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information about an alleged wiretapping uh project dragnet that's been going on that

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allegedly has his phone numbers which again as i said spelled out earlier montgomery could easily

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get that information from very mild hacking which he is shown through his typewriter skills people

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talking about him uh and his history has shown that he is capable of those things at the very

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least can write basic software in 2002 yes so what we have here is alex jones either willingly

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or unwillingly being tricked by and also mike zullo is an accomplice to joe arpeyos crimes

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against humanity yeah at very least and probably deserves life in prison but probably could get

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you a good deal on a hondai an amazing deal on probably oh so alex jones uh handshake deal alex

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jones cash wouldn't even need to write it down alex jones has done no research into any of these

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things or if he has he is truly 100 trying to lie in a way that we have those are the only two

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possibilities in the way that we have always had that kind of spectrum going back and forth

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if alex jones has done any research into these people then he is aware 100 that he is lying and

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peddling a false narrative yes if he has not which to me seems the more likely situation because

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again all of the work you've done all of the research you've done seems like something so far

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beyond anything alex jones is capable of it hasn't taken me that long though exactly to be honest and

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that's the even more pathetic part of it to be honest we're not getting paid for this show nope

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and i have a nine to five job it actually is generally an eight to six job so like i'm i'm

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at work a lot of my life and i can't be spending time researching i have not been tearing my hair

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out researching this exactly it's been pretty easy to find most of this information and that's

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that's kind of more again it fits within alex jones and what we know of him that he would not

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have done even the most cursory of research if someone comes to jerome coursey and says i have

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evidence that trump is being spied on jerome coursey is going to write up an article and alex

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jones is going to just implicitly believe it no matter what yes he's not going to do any research

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into exactly figuring out is this worth me posting on my site not he's not going to do any of that

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work and because he doesn't and because jerome coursey is so so uncredited so unethical he just

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brings this bullshit into the house right so and alex jones is happy to yes to me i fall on the

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side of alex jones is the village idiot not the uh mafia don in this particular circumstance

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that's interesting i don't think he's willfully misleading people in the way that he would be

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if he had done any research into any of these people now see here's where i disagree with you

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just on a slight technicality yes i think he willfully doesn't do the research because a part

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of him knows that if he did he would invalidate his own beliefs your objection is is sustained

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thank you thank you counselor yeah permission to approach the bench uh never in fact you're kicked

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out of my courtroom for life um so realistically what we what we end this with is trump was not

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being spied on in the way that's that's it that's where we end well because like if we just said

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that because ended the podcast right there because that's the narrative that alex was pitching the

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entire week the idea that his phone number and trump's phone number and all that was part of this

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database right is absolute lies which we've which we've i think firmly established and it took like

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there's a web of things that's built upon it he spent a week on this he had multiple interviews

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with people propping up this lie it's complete bullshit and nunes himself has confirmed he's

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at least no evidence and trump was wiretapped but in the meantime nunez is at least incredulous of

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this evidence he's at least been tricked in some way his behavior was altered by some of this

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information nunez i would actually argue is on the evil side is on the evil spectrum i agree

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willfully lying especially in order to protect again in order to protect trump but in the same

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way he's hitching his wagon to what he thinks won't get torn down boy like it looked pretty

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good a couple months ago yeah exactly right if you were going to like just 50 50 horse race here

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what's blue sky this thing who do you think you would rather hit your horse to right now

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paul ryan or donald trump right that's that's a sophie's choice it really is the reverse of

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one i want to kill both of my children i hate my children yeah no that's that's a no-win situation

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i don't want to hitch my horse to either of them but if i had to choose you'd probably go trump

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yeah oh man i i'm still gonna go with ryan here i would go trump but real casually just because

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i don't want anything to do with paul ryan i would fuck trump once every couple of weeks

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real cash stuff you know it's like a hookup i think trump is a traitor yeah but somehow i

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think paul ryan is worse paul ryan is absolutely worse so i would go i would go with trump but

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but i'm talking about my neck out for either of them pure survival i'm not talking about who's

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the who's the more monstrous right because i hope both of them get hit by a truck then you go ryan

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right exactly i think ryan is going to i mean i well see and then we go more of a cockroach

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we go back to the health care bill right i would have before the whole health care bill i would

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have said that ryan was capable of outmaneuvering trump yeah because the health care bill was maybe

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the most unpopular thing ever introduced into congress yeah and he still put all of his energy

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into it maybe just maybe paul ryan is an idiot it's he's not a wonk he is definitely not like

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his reputation as being a guy who is smart is gone it's also interesting though because i don't

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i don't know really uh i i have not done deep research into it but i did read an article about

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how trump making a hard sell on the health care bill ended up losing them 10 votes yeah i would

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believe that he went in and tried to negotiate with folks and it like a used car salesman and

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it worked negatively yeah so it's possible that paul ryan maybe could have pulled it off without

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trump's blustery tactics look we don't we can't yeah we can't we can't do that one it's impossible

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no that one's not that either way we have one more clip and this is alex jones talking about

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uh i mean this is just great okay all right let's get to it i'll just i'll just let it play let's

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get some dessert on this shit this is absolutely dessert okay this world being so unstable if they

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bring down trump which they're trying to do they're trying to demonize him before they kill him

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you need high quality horrible foods i know i've increased the amounts i've got people keep

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thinking i'll go back to sleep trump's in oh yeah get ready we'll usually do this once a year i'm

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doing it every few months now it's 30 to 40 percent off all the high quality horrible foods

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that are fresh are just right here in america about my patriot supply alex jones showing his

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true colors oh my god that felt so good they're gonna kill that was the catharsis i have wanted

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for months now they're gonna kill trump hey you need food you need food yeah you're gonna need it

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anyway what about oh god anyway dan let me ask you a question let me answer a question for you

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uh where would you find us if you were looking for us uh well i would say that the primary place you

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can find us is knowledgefight.com our website oh we have a website we do and there's a link up

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there if you'd like to support the show we do take donations at uh through patreon there's a link on

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uh knowledgefight.com we are welcome to do that you don't have to i don't give a shit i'd like it

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again you're very defensive for no reason i you can also subscribe to us on itunes if you leave

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a review do you know that that pushes our rankings up or something yeah and i don't know how itunes

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works and thank you to uh listen i'm gonna give a thank you to a friend of mine thank you brian

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burger what's up baby he left us a nice review on uh on itunes recently oh good and uh thank you

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everybody we genuinely uh like it really it really does make me feel like i'm a part of something

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whenever people review this and like it you know like there are plenty of podcasts also by the way

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remember when i was complaining about someone leaving a four-star review yeah i went back

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and checked i think they changed it to a five oh no dan dan you're a bully i'm sorry you're the

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alex jones of knowledgefight i'm so sorry no here's here's the weird thing you get overly

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defensive i get way overly sincere like oh guys you touch me it is very nice though it is it is

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truly i mean whatever those sincere feelings that you're expressing i definitely feel too but i have

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a stony visage yeah it's it's hard it's hard because feeling like part of the resistance

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or whatever it is uh seems very futile at times we're resistance to something we're trying yeah

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you know it's hard it's hard to try it really is like looking at the protests in russia just this

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day jesus uh you see those people who are far that's real bravery far far more brave than

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anything i can imagine because ever just going there it has a very real possibility of killing

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you yeah it truly does and so you just see massive swarms yeah of riot police making lines in order

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to shuttle all the protesters into a building and they are they are any of those people could they

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look like fucking robocop like it's ridiculous so so just to feel like i am at the very least

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putting the smallest amount of what i can into it because i'm so confused about how to actually join

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that all we do is is you know all we can do is again encourage people to you know call your

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representatives do everything you can that's a that's a small thing it's very easy to do and

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you should donate money to the aclu or any other cause that you support 100 do whatever it is you

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can that's what we want to encourage people to do that's what we do and then beyond that also and

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i'm guilty of not doing this all the time because i'm kind of a crank but like it does go a long way

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just to be nice to people yeah that is a really important thing as our country descends further

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into into the hunger games we live in the hunger as we descend into really scary territory it is

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important that you be nice to people so try try try to see the humanity in your fellow and the

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only way to be nice to people dan i will tell you this right now is to leave a great review of

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knowledge fight on itunes i'm glad you got there because that was that was my point anyways uh

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also we can even follow us at twitter knowledge underscore fight uh you can email us at knowledge

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fight at gmail.com also uh i don't think we mentioned this in the last episode but thank you

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to the av club giving us a nice shout out oh yeah at future schlock uh yeah super awesome thank you

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very much anybody else who wants to write anything about us please do we need help and if you do want

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to write anything about us you should definitely mention at the end of the article that we

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are a couple of just you know i don't know policy wonks is that right yeah andy in kansas you're on

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the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love

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you