Transcript/917: April 10, 2024

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.

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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to pray.

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I have great respect for Knowledgefight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.

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Knowledgefight.

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Andy, it's time to pray.

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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding us.

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Hello Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Knowledgefight.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes that like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk

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a little bit about Alex Jones.

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Ooh indeed we are Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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I have a quick question for you.

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today buddy?

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Why don't you go first?

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My bright spot is like a dragon, infinite wealth.

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I went back to it.

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Oh shit.

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I went back to it because if you'll recall.

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You texted me about this.

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Yeah.

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But I think I was half asleep when I read the text.

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That's possible.

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I don't remember exactly what you said.

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It was at 3 PM.

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I might have been taking a nap, I'm not sure.

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No, so if you recall when I bought the original game I was like, I don't need like a booklet

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or whatever it is, you know, a lot of those add-ons wind up.

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The advanced edition.

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Totally, I don't need like experience.

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You know, I don't want any of that, right?

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But they did hide a new game plus feature behind that.

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I remember that.

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And I didn't recall, or I didn't see that in advance, right?

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I think I told you about that.

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I'm fucked up.

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Maybe you were half asleep.

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Maybe I was half asleep.

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You texted me too early.

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Or maybe I bought it already, whatever.

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I don't need to bog down in the details.

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But they did release the, like, you can update now and pay an extra ten bucks or whatever

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and get the new game plus.

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Because that was the problem was they didn't allow you to just buy the little upgrade.

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Totally.

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You would have to buy another game, yeah.

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So they buckled.

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You know, you're allowed to do that.

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And I had reached a point in FF7 Rebirth where, like, you're on heart mode and they go for

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like increasing the difficulty to just making something more difficult.

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Right.

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Like it's, oh great, this is just more time consuming.

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It's not just harder.

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Just more giant-er health bars.

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Great, yeah.

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You've done it.

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Yeah, that kind of thing.

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So I needed to like be free of that for a little bit.

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Took a look there.

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Man, I can spend all day in Dondoko Island.

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Yeah.

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All day.

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Yep.

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Oh, just chopping down trees, my man.

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You might like Animal Crossing then.

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I might.

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Because it's basically just Animal Crossing.

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See, the problem is I can't like then go somewhere else and do an RPG battle in the same game.

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Right, that's true.

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Having that option is kind of nice.

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Yeah, it's just golden, yeah.

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So how's your island looking?

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I mean, obviously you're five stars.

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This time I'm doing it different.

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Okay.

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Because now in the new game plus you can keep all of your stuff.

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So you can start with a fresh slate without having to build it up to get more stuff.

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Sure.

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You don't have to clutter the island as you...

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And then I'm like, oh, I don't want to fuck with this and remove this every goddamn time.

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It's a hassle.

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Yeah, so you get to rebuild it from a blank canvas.

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Man, statues everywhere.

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Nice.

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Gigantic statues that breathe fire.

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That's pretty sweet.

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Everywhere.

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Fire-breathing statues?

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I didn't even know that was an option.

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Yeah, if you play the game right, you can have fire-breathing statues.

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Kind of like a dragon.

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Whoa.

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There's no bad time to point at each other.

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Right.

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What's your bright spot?

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Well, actually, it's kind of...

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You've made me think about video games.

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Right.

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It's been a while since you've gotten into a video game.

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You've kind of left them behind for a while.

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I feel like I might be over video games.

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Just for good.

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Get out of here.

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Maybe that's just a statement of my emotional state.

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You're kind of over just about everything right about now.

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I've got a little bit of a...

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Yeah.

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But I plugged in... I remembered that I have a Switch.

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Right.

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Right.

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So my bright spot is the possibilities of what games could possibly be on there.

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Anything could happen.

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I was thinking about...

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Because I never did get all that far in Sonic Frontiers.

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Sure.

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And I do like a nice open-world Sonic game.

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Sure.

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I'm one of the few proponents of Sonic Adventure 2 Battle.

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You are.

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You know what?

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Here's my pitch to you.

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Yeah.

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Because here's what I think...

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You're not that far in Zelda Breath of the Kingdom.

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Tears of the Kingdom.

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I almost did none of it.

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I got a little ways into it and then I got overwhelmed by having too many options.

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Yeah.

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I was like, I can't build anything anyway.

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These are things that are probably worth re-exploring.

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Possible.

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My pitch to you is this.

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I think, because I recall this several years ago,

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we had been in a situation of you not being particularly interested in video games.

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Right.

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And then Fire Emblem Three Houses came out.

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That's true.

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I think you go back to that.

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You run through that one more time.

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See where you're at.

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I had that thought.

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I did think of how much I enjoyed that.

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You really did.

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Yeah.

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It was quite good.

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Now you told me all about it.

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Yeah.

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Maybe I should do that.

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Who knows.

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Anyway, whatever the case, we'll see.

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The possibilities are almost as endless as...

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And that's the exciting thing.

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Exactly.

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So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

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Oh, interesting.

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Alex has still been out of studio.

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Oh my God.

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Yeah.

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I was texting you that it's so unfair.

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It's been so unfair for so long.

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It's like I'm not even mad about it anymore.

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I am furious about this.

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He's supposed to be back in studio today as we're recording this.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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But he's been on vacation.

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He's been in Hawaii.

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Sure.

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And all week, most of last week.

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Just going.

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But on the 10th, April 10th, he did do a bit of his show.

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A special report kind of thing.

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Well, he had to, kind of.

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Hopped in.

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Because big news, bro.

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Sales are down.

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I don't know if you heard this.

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Big news?

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Do you hear the big news?

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No.

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Okay.

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This will all be fresh.

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Okay.

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He might be suing the CIA.

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So.

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I'm sorry.

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Yes!

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I'm in!

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We'll get down to business on all this.

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But before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some wonks.

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Oh, that's a great idea.

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So first, the fallacious Trump podcast.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next, Marchand von Friedorf.

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Friedhof.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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And not a bit.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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We'll see what's on the switch.

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Right.

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We've got a couple technocrats in the mix, Jordan.

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So thank you so much, too.

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It took my husband two years, seven months, and 18 days to get me to listen to Knowledge

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Fight, and now I am sending him subliminal messages through your podcast.

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Love, your wife.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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And Ali Wen, anarcho-positist-poetist.

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Oof.

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That was a tongue twister.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I don't like to hype things, but people are designed to hype.

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I am going to paint once a week on air, and I'm going to let callers call in.

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We'll also take emails and request what you want to see me paint.

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One, two, three, Matt Damon.

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Matt Damon.

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There you go.

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So party time.

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I'm going to get in your guts.

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And the Nazis, in my view, were thugs that shook people down to a lot of really bad things.

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But they did good things, too.

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We're going to stop dissing the Nazis all the time.

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Okay.

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I'm thinking about doing some shows, too, where I run the whole thing myself, just hit

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record and sit in the dark with just a few candles and candlelight and talk about the

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nature of the world universe.

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I mean, you know, a big old juicy ribeye, folks, is as good as sex with your wife.

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And let's just get down to reality here.

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I'm going to go Donkey Kong, King Kong crazy in about 45 days.

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America sucks.

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We're all racist.

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It's over.

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It doesn't mean I want to go live, say, in some places in Asia, where you get off the

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plane over there, folks, they karate chop you.

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Thank you so much.

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Yes, thank you very much.

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So yeah, Alex might be suing the CIA and the FBI and all sorts of other things that are

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definitely going to happen.

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I understand doing that, because we all wanted to in the past, for one reason or another.

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But man, every time you play that, it's like, God, just do the painting show.

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Just solve everybody's problems.

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Do the painting show, turn our show into like a weird fan podcast.

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We'll be like the Alex Jones painting show.

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I'll get into all kinds of like art theory.

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I'll start learning about art.

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Be great.

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I'd love it.

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Yeah.

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So what happened is that there was a Project Veritas style, undercover video that came

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out of a guy, and he supposedly works with the CIA, works with the CIA.

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And he had admitted that they were going after Alex, and there's some discussion of involvement

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with the Sandy Hook case.

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So this has come out, and so Alex obviously has to get on the show and talk about it.

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He went on a guy named Benny Johnson.

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He's a commentator who's worked for The Blaze and all sorts of other right wing outlets.

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He went on his show to do an interview the night before, and Alex ends up playing that

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interview on this episode.

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So we're sort of hitting both of those bases by covering Alex's content from April 10th

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on his show.

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I like it.

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So here's where he starts off as he comes into studio.

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Well, not studio.

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He's phoning.

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208 days, 208 days, 12 hours, 59 minutes, 42 seconds, most important election in world

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history.

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I'll be back in Texas, back in the seat tomorrow.

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I'm joining you from the road on this April 10th, 2024 transmission.

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How many times did I tell you the whole Sandy Hook lawsuit operation was run by the CIA

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and the FBI, and now it's all admitted.

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It's going to be discussed by MTG during the FISA warrantless search hearings today.

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She's been talking about that on X.

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This is a big deal.

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They're in a lot of trouble.

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You're intending to take legal action.

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This shakes up a lot of things.

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So first things first, it's not admitted that the whole Sandy Hook case was run by the CIA.

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This group called Sound Investigations did a Project Veritas style undercover video,

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which purports to show a guy who identifies himself as a quote, contracts officer who

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works with the CIA.

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As is often the case with these kinds of reports, the video is heavily edited and it involves

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conversations with this guy from three different occasions during March, 2024.

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It's very difficult to ascertain any full context from the things that are being said.

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So I need to make that large caveat right off the top.

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In the video, the guy says this about Alex's case though.

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So with Alex Jones, you were watching him long before anything ended up happening.

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Probably.

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It wasn't my office, but I mean, we would have been well aware of what he was doing.

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And the goal with him was what?

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Just to bankrupt him?

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Oh, pretty much.

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And we let the families do it.

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What?

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We let the families do it.

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Were they encouraged to do that by the Bureau?

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Like nudged?

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We don't encourage people, but like we just say there's no federal statute being broken.

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But you do have the option for civil, civil case and it's a pretty good case in our opinion.

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So that makes so much sense.

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I have a cousin who's a lawyer, so that's a lot of cases that they're kind of encouraged

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by the FBI.

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There's nothing federally, federal law we can do, but civilly we can go at them that

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way.

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And they did.

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So the FBI was happy.

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We didn't care where we're like, basically the citizens did your job.

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Wow.

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So you can encourage a civil lawsuit, not encourage, educate.

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So there's a very non nefarious reading of what's being said in this clip.

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You could hear that explanation as someone saying that they got a complaint about Alex

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from Sandy Hook families or someone involved, but replied that there wasn't anything they

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could do from a law enforcement standpoint, but they could sue if they wanted.

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Right.

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So I'm unconvinced that this is a confession for a couple of reasons.

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The first is that there's a plausible innocuous reading of what he's saying and there's not

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enough context to persuade me to accept the villainous conclusion that's being presented

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by people like Alex.

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Second, this guy explicitly says that he had no knowledge of watching Alex, just that he

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assumes that some office would have been aware of what he was doing.

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This is not someone with first hand knowledge about the subject that the video is presenting

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him as being a witness about.

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Third, even according to this video, this guy wasn't employed by the CIA or FBI at the

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time of the Sandy Hook lawsuit starting.

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There is that.

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They show what's alleged to be his LinkedIn page at the beginning of the video.

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And if it's accurate, he was an operations technician at the FBI from May 2021 to June

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2022 and then a procurement specialist from June 2022 to December 2022.

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He was at the FBI for under two years and his time there wouldn't have overlapped with

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the time that the lawsuits were initiated.

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There's no CIA on his LinkedIn page.

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That's just something that he asserts himself in the video.

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And his current job on LinkedIn was listed as immigration services analyst with the Department

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of Homeland Security.

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Prior to the FBI, his LinkedIn page says that he worked with compensation and pension in

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the Department of Veterans Affairs, but he was only there from April 2020 to April 2021

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and there's no previous employment shown in the video.

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They just have a screenshot of his LinkedIn, which is now taken down.

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Well, yeah, it would have to be because you're going to lose your fucking job.

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None of the information presented gives any reason to believe that this guy was employed

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at a relevant agency at the time that would give him the ability to be a witness about

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any of this stuff in any meaningful way.

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I find myself unconvinced is what I'm saying.

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I love that idea of like a nefarious reading of that because to me, you know, that idea

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of like, hey, can you guys do anything about this very obvious crime?

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And they're like, no, it's not illegal.

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Aren't we crazy?

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I don't know.

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Maybe you could sue him.

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Right.

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And it's like, I get that you write that as nefarious, but if you've ever had your car

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stolen in Chicago, like you go to the cops and you're like, can you do something about

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this obvious crime?

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And then they laugh at you.

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They don't even give you any options.

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They're just like, obviously not.

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That's not what we do.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And in my video, he also says a lot of other stuff.

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Okay.

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Let's hear some of it.

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Well, some of it is about like the FBI can entrap people by giving a nudge and things

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like that.

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He doesn't come off great in terms of the way that this is presented.

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Who knows exactly what the raw footage and all of it, you know, because we've seen this

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game played by James O'Keefe a number of times in the past and it's very difficult to make

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any solid conclusions about stuff.

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But as it relates to Alex, that is about as damning as things get.

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And that's not indicative to me of the CIA and the FBI being behind these cases.

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No, I don't understand.

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So I guess it's just kind of like, got to be new.

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It's always got to be new, right?

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But it's like, okay, we know in like 2004 during the absolute Islamophobia terrors that

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were going on, the FBI absolutely entrapped a few people at least, right?

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We know that for a fact.

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Right.

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Shouldn't that just be enough?

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Right?

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Isn't that disqualifying?

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Like you can't entrap anybody.

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Zero entrapment is okay, right?

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You aspire for zero.

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You aspire for zero, right?

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So at the very least they should be more held accountable over that time period, right?

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I agree.

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So why do we got to bring up some bullshit now?

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Well, because it involves Alex and he needs a new storyline because the fucking eclipse

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didn't cause the new Madrid fault to go off or any FEMA exercises or martial law takeover

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drills or anything like that.

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And his bankruptcy is coming to a head.

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Have we forgotten the eclipse?

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Is it just a fun event now?

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Not a mention.

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Just moved on.

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Not a mention.

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Just moved on.

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Could've been anything.

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I don't know if that's entirely indicative of all of his content.

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I don't know if Harrison Smith is still talking about it or Chase Geyser maybe still towing

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the eclipse line.

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So this is obviously the main story.

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This is the main thing that's focused.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Gotcha.

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But there's other things.

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Okay.

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Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada.

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I'm sorry?

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He said Alex's name.

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Okay.

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We got to hear it.

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Yep.

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Here's the clip of Trudeau attacking me yesterday and debating a peer of Polymer who's set to

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be the next leader of Canada in all the polls and all the numbers.

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And then we will give you a little history refresher with the clip of the Nazi officer

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who massacred people in Ukraine being given a standing ovation.

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Here it is.

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The parliamentary budget officer's report, which confirms 60% of Canadians pay more than

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they get back.

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The prime minister said, and I quote in 2015, Canadians need a PM who will meet with the

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premiers.

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What happened?

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The right honorable prime minister.

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While the Conservative leader continues with his misinformation and disinformation, the

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reality is the parliamentary budget officer said that eight out of ten Canadians do better

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with our price on pollution and the Canada carbon rebate.

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But speaking of misinformation and disinformation, any responsible leader that receives an endorsement

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and support from proven conspiracy theorist and liar Alex Jones would have immediately

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denounced that.

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But that's not what the leader of the opposition did.

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He did absolutely nothing because those kinds of endorsements fit within his political strategy.

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Seems like they're clapping a bit.

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Sure.

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All right.

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But I wouldn't have gone that route if I were Trudeau.

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Yeah.

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I feel like that's an unnecessary.

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Okay.

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So normally in plenty of circumstances, it's like Alex is just navel gazing just because,

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but I think part of that is because Alex has been doing this for too long.

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You know, like sometimes we've, we've had our names mentioned somewhere and I've been

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like, oh, isn't that interesting?

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Right.

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And I imagine if Justin Trudeau had mentioned our name.

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Well, no, that's why I'm not shitting on this too much.

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I mean, yeah.

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This is crazy.

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This is the head of Canada talking some shit.

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You shouldn't be doing that about a guy who maybe is, yeah.

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Here's the issue though.

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I think that if Pierre Paul Aver had said Alex Jones is fucking great, then maybe you

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have something that is relevant to critique.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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Alex saying that Pierre is good isn't Pierre's fault necessarily.

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You know, it's, it's just, it's not, it's, it's, it's, it's off the beaten path a little

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bit.

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I don't think it's a good attack.

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No, no.

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I mean, you know, I would argue, I would argue that it looks better for him if he has no

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idea who Alex is and thus doesn't need to denounce it.

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Right.

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If he immediately denounces it, you're like, oh, so you're watching a lot of Alex, eh?

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Well, I don't know.

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That's debatable.

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That is debatable.

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But yeah, a lot of times when there's stuff that Alex is talking about that is just sort

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of looking at himself and being excited about himself, a lot of the times it's kind of like,

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ah, who cares?

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This is probably Mr. Canada.

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It seems silly.

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If anyone mentions your name who also has the capability to like even accidentally press

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a button that shoots nuclear weapons, that's notable.

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That's worth talking about.

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Yeah.

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It's, it's strange.

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Yeah.

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A little mistake.

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I would not record.

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On Trudeau's part, I would say.

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You guys should like work on tax policy.

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I don't know.

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What do they do?

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I'm sure he's doing some of that too.

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I bet, I bet.

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And I, as Alex is on the show, I realized like, oh, he's not actually going to host

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that long.

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He's just going to play the interview that he did with Benny Johnson.

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So he throws to that.

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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us.

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I'm on the road, but I'm back tomorrow.

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And I'm your host, Alex Scott.

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Thank you all for your prayers and your support.

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It is April 10th, 2024.

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I did a really interesting interview I thought was very informative with the extremely successful

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and viral and extremely smart Benny Johnson yesterday that really goes to the heart of

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the deep state's coup against America and their war against America.

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We're about to air a majority of that interview and then Owen Schroyer is going to be back

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in the second, third and into the fourth hour today.

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Yeah.

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So Owen Schroyer comes in to take over after they play Benny Johnson's interview.

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And yeah, this, this Benny character doesn't say much.

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Okay.

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So he's just kind of there to let Alex roll.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I think that Alex, at a certain point, I heard Benny talk and I was like, I think it's been

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about 20 minutes that Alex has just been holding court.

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Great.

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Just talking in one run on sentence for about 15, 20 minutes.

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Jesus.

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It's outrageous.

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Yeah.

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But it starts off with Benny talking a little bit and here's some of his commentary.

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So what is one of the biggest black boxes in American life right now that you're not

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allowed to ask questions about that would be January 6th ask too many questions about

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January 6th and doesn't matter if you're the most popular TV host of all time, you'll get

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fired.

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Ladies and gentlemen, we've been confused about the official narrative around January

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6th for a very, very long time.

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Nothing really adds up and there are still so many questions that remain to be answered.

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Yet.

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We now have a little bit of footage from January 6th and we can look through that footage and

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it doesn't make things more clear.

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It actually makes things more confusing like this clip.

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For instance, here's a clip of a man, apparently a very dangerous protester, a violent protesters

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cause he's been handcuffed going to the door of the Capitol with two armed police guards

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getting let out of his handcuffs and then fist bumping the police officers.

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What exactly is that about?

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You can see the fist bump right there.

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There go the handcuffs and the cops talk with them, chat with them, Pat them on the back,

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clap them on the shoulder and send them on his way.

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Why is this masked man allowed to leave?

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Why is this mass man allowed to go free?

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Presumably he was behaving in a violent manner.

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If you were in handcuffs, presumably there was a reason to place him under arrest.

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What would cause a cop to just liberate him, to let him go, to liberate this man.

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All right.

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So this footage isn't actually all that confusing at all.

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We've talked about it in the past.

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It's not even new.

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Benny's doing a good job of performing confusion here, but this is a bit silly.

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Also there's just like constantly assuming he must be violent because he's handcuffed

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is doing a lot of assumptive work.

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I like that indignance.

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Can you imagine a police officer handcuffing someone who does not deserve it?

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Good heavens, sir.

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Right.

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So he's clearly referencing Tucker when he says, if you question January 6th, you'll

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get fired.

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But Tucker didn't get fired for that.

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Okay.

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I think there's plenty of evidence that people can question January 6th all they fucking

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want and they've faced zero consequences for it, including Benny himself.

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He's kind of a living example of there not being a consequence.

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A lot of people who use the C word about their bosses though, lose their jobs.

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True.

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Happens all the time.

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A lot of people who are very actively involved in a thing that gets you sued for millions

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and millions of dollars, your job security, despite being the quote unquote most popular

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TV presenter of all time.

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I swear to God.

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Which I debate.

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I had no idea who he was talking about because in my head I was like, Carson's dead, man.

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Carson was not alive during January 6th.

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I'll tell you that right now.

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I would say Jay Leno's even probably more popular than Tucker.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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So anyway, why was this man liberated?

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We now know.

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Good question.

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Okay.

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What would cause a cop to just liberate him, to let him go?

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Well, ladies and gentlemen, now we know.

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According to bombshell reporting out, as of today, a CIA agent actively, former FBI employee

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says there were approximately 20 undercover agents in the January 6th crowd, boasts about

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taking away Alex Jones's money, says the CIA is targeting Tucker Carlson.

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This is bombshell reporting from sound investigations.

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It reveals that former FBI employee and contracting CIA officer Gavin O'Blenis has claimed that

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there are at least 20 FBI agents in the January 6th crowd and that Alex Jones was persecuted

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by his own government and Tucker Carlson is on a watch list.

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So this is why the cops were fist bumping that guy because he's probably one of the

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20.

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It's probably a 20, one of the dangerous 20s.

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It's a bit of an unearned conclusion, an unearned leap that's being made here.

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But here is what the guy says in that undercover video about January 6th.

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Right.

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I thought you said that there were FBI agents in the crowd at the J6.

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There are.

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There always are when there's a big protest in DC, just in case it gets out of hu-m like

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that.

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But there wasn't enough to turn that side.

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I mean, I'm talking they needed to have it 20.

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You needed a thousand to get rid of that crowd.

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So they had like, oh, that was just 20?

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Yeah.

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Just to go through there and see what they can hear, you know, that kind of thing.

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Wow.

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That's, yeah, definitely they needed a thousand at least.

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Wow.

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See, that's also...

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To go to four?

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They're in charge.

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So that...

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Why they didn't have more on hand, I don't know.

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The bureau didn't really want people knowing that they were in the crowd.

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That would be overstepping their bounds.

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A little bit.

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Do people know that?

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Why?

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Do people know that?

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Because the bureau was in the crowd?

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Nope, they probably never will.

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Do you know agents that were there?

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Mm-hmm.

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Really?

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The agency knew.

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So assuming that everything that the guy says in that clip is accurate, there's still no

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reason to assume this proves that the guy in the video getting fist bumps from a cop

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was the FBI agent.

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Yeah, that's...

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That's unearned.

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Yeah.

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Also, critically, according to the information presented in the undercover video itself,

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this guy did not work for the FBI on January 6th, 2021.

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If the information they're presenting is accurate, then he was doing pensions for the VA at the

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time and wouldn't begin work with the FBI for another four months.

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Any information that he's presenting is not firsthand.

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So if it's being used to prop up any of these pretty major claims, it requires some other

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substantial corroboration.

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And I see an absence of that at this point.

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Here's what I'm thinking is going on, right?

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Because I think there's a fundamental disconnect, right?

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So way back when, whenever the FBI and all those agencies were like, oh, domestic terrorism

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is the number one threat, right?

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What that, I assume, meant is they would be investigating more of those, right?

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So that means that they would be looking for more informants.

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Informants are people who are already nearby or in the group because they can then testify

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in court.

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They're not commando operatives sent by the FBI to, if there's a riot, fight off 300 people

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at a time in order to turn the tide of a battle.

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It would be just a guy who was there who later on would be testifying like, hey, I was there

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when that guy was doing the thing, right?

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Maybe or- Commandos.

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Yeah.

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Could be commandos.

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Could be commandos.

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Yeah.

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You never know.

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Could be.

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Could be.

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Use your imagination.

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Listen, I could be the idiot here.

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Come on.

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So further, a dude in the video doesn't really boast about taking Alex's money away, though

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he does say that the CIA isn't interested in Alex anymore because he's broke.

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Well, yeah.

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He also doesn't say that Tucker is on a watch list.

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Here's the closest we get in this clip.

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It would be like a big influencer that you're after, like a, I don't know, like a, I don't

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even know these names, like a Fox News person or like a Tucker Carlson or like-

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Oh, I'm sure he's- Right, he always wanted to think it's loudest,

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like that, what was his name, the one that said the Sandy Hook didn't happen.

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Alex Jones.

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Yeah.

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So we were after him.

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You are?

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Are you still after him?

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Why?

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Because he's broke.

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He got found guilty and had to pay like a hundred million dollars.

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So why were you after him?

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We're not anymore.

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Just to get the money from him?

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Yeah.

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So I'd be curious what he means by we were after him hardcore.

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Yeah.

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I would like a clarification on that, but- What does that even mean?

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I don't know.

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Right?

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But when he's asked about Tucker Carlson, he says, I'm sure he's on someone's radar.

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I don't know.

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He doesn't know.

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I like a good bar talk where you just shit talk, just like, oh yeah, totally.

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I bet that guy was right up there, like, okay, fine, all right.

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What kind of backing you got on any of this?

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This is borderline my dad could beat up your dad levels of idiocy.

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It's something that is very good to raise eyebrows.

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But past that, you need a little bit more than this for the kind of claims that are

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being made.

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And it's just, I don't feel like even if everything that's being presented in there is accurate,

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the information about this person's LinkedIn page, all of that, I don't think it justifies

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the conclusions that Benny is making.

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Here's what Benny would have to be saying in order for the FBI to have been going after

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Alex, because we were literally at the trial.

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You worked on the evidence for the people who would have been told by the FDA to go

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after them, right?

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That's kind of the idea there is that these families reached out to the FBI and the FBI

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was like, you got to go after those people.

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Right.

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Right?

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I guess.

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And again, in its own way, a form of Sandy Hook denial, how many times are we going to

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do this?

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It is in a sense.

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And that they were found guilty?

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And this guy who wasn't there at the time happens to know all of this and is very cavalierly

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just blaselly throwing this out at a restaurant.

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I don't know.

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I've been working for government law enforcement agencies for two years, so I can feel pretty

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confident that I can just shit talk.

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All right.

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So Benny brings in Alex and I will say that a lot of this is his normal spiel about how

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wrong he's been.

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We've heard it a hundred times.

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So many are saying that they hope that Alex Jones sues the hell out of the FBI, joining

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us now to confirm whether he's going to is Alex Jones.

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Alex, thank you so much for taking the time to be with us today.

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We know that this was supposed to be a time of peace for you, but I guess there's no peace

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in war, right?

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And apparently the Intel agencies have said they are at war with you.

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Your response.

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Well, we've known this for really seven years.

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They even had congressional hearings six years ago, admitting that they had designated myself

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and Trump as Russian agents with no proof that they had armed services committees in

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the house where they call us disinformation agents and admitted that Obama put forward

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two plus billion dollars in the defense authorization act.

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The last thing he signed in 2017 in January set up the countering foreign disinformation

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propaganda act that then tied in to the repeals a few years before by Obama of the laws that

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bar the CIA from engaging in domestic propaganda or targeting the American people.

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So I'm on record, even before I was sued and had default judgments in, in rigged trials

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where the judges found me guilty and the juries found out how guilty I was.

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That was their only decision to make.

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I've said hundreds of times that it was the CIA and the FBI and it would take an hour

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to go through it all.

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Yeah.

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So there's a lot to go through.

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Yeah.

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So this is just the normal Alex spin about the case and he rattles off his talking points

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about any ad nauseum.

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And to be clear, Obama didn't do what Alex is saying in 2013 there was an amendment in

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the national defense authorization act that allowed us citizens to receive stuff that's

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made by government entities like voice of America.

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If they request it, this wasn't an authorization of disseminating propaganda to domestic audience

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as much as it was a recognition of the fact that the internet exists and it was essentially

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impossible to completely keep this content from citizens.

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The countering foreign propaganda disinformation act was attached to the 2017 NDAA and most

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of what it did was establish a global engagement center, which was to quote, lead, synchronize

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and coordinate efforts of the federal government to recognize, understand, expose and counter

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foreign state and non-state propaganda and disinformation efforts aimed at undermining

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us national security interests.

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None of this relates to Alex being sued about Sandy Hook, but it kind of sounds really official.

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It sounds kind of smart and like there's a lot behind it.

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Sure.

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Kind of like how Alex used to try and impress people by rattling off his favorite subsection

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50 paragraph, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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It was very impressive.

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Yeah.

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It is.

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It's kind of the inverse of our usual problem where ostensibly very dangerous things are

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named very boring things.

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Whereas this very, you know, somewhat menacingly named thing is like, and you can email people

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now.

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The countering foreign propaganda.

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From a.gov email address, you can email them a pamphlet.

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Congratulations.

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Well, yeah.

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I mean, what, what, what kind of nefarious name does it have?

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The National Defense Authorization Act?

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Exactly.

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It's a little bit.

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It's not, yeah.

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But I mean, it's not like the, the helping children breathe act is the one where they

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like stab children, you know, like that's, yeah.

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Right.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So Alex has heard prior to him being sued that he was going to get sued and someone

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right who has a, who was a section chief at the CIA told him, all right, I'm listening.

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I barely ever covered it.

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It was a big internet thing.

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And I said, I could see how, as much as we get lied to, that's the case.

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So when you, when you see every newspaper attacking you and every TV channel, like it

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was the invasion of Iraq in 2003, that much propaganda, I knew it was about setting the

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precedent.

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I knew the government was involved.

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Then I saw the FBI and the feds and people in and around it.

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Then I was told by a former section chief of the CIA, and I've interviewed a lot of

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those people and talked to one off record, the get ready to be sued.

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It's an agency operation.

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They're running the propaganda.

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The FBI is implementing it.

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You're going to be defaulted.

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They're going to get giant judgments and they're going to try to shut you down.

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This is bigger than you.

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So I knew that a year before I got sued, I said, this is all going to happen now.

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So this is just a mid-level guy, though he is a contract manager.

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He's not a contractor.

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He manages major contract operations.

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So he's a boss because he's a leftist.

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And so when this information came out, and I'm told there about to release even more

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on Thursday, I already knew this was the case.

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I already understood it, just like we have total proof of the feds running the feds direction

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on January 6th, just like the January 6th committee that was a fraud wasn't even duly

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put in.

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The Republicans are supposed to vote for who they want on the committee.

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They couldn't.

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They destroyed all the transcripts and videos of the January 6th testimonies, including

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my testimony to Congress, can't get that.

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It's been destroyed.

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What?

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Has it?

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That's complete bullshit.

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I was going to say, has it been destroyed?

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It's super easy to find a transcript of Alex's testimony before the January 6th committee.

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The right wing media just adopted that story.

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It's a fraudulent narrative, but that story that they destroyed all this evidence.

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And Alex is just, I guess partially because he probably knows that's not true.

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It doesn't matter if you just add your own little personal touch to it.

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It's like, my transcripts gone.

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It took like three clicks to find.

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It's very easy to find.

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So also I wonder who that CIA section chief is.

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I'm interested as well.

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It's probably Steve Janik.

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Yeah, I would have stooped up.

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But I noticed though, Alex loves that fucking job title.

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It's a great job title.

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It's like Lieutenant Colonel.

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Yeah, it's like a cold war thing, you know?

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It's like, it's not the director.

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That guy doesn't get his hands dirty, but the section chief, he's the guy who's like,

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go kill that guy.

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It's his aide de camp.

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He also loves that one.

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If it's a military person, it's a Lieutenant Colonel.

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If it's an intelligence agency, section chief.

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This is the way that sources are named in Alex's world.

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Okay, let me pitch you on this because I'm trying to figure out, okay.

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So let's say that feds are in on it, right?

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Again, we were at the trials, the evidence that we saw was 99% shit that he just said.

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So maybe, if we're saying that the FBI is involved, that would require some sort of

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surreptitious evidence that was gathered outside of that.

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So we have perhaps the text messages, right?

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Who released the text messages a fed?

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Norm?

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No.

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Raynald's idiocy.

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But I wasn't, I thought it was Norm sent it to Raynald.

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Oh shit.

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It might've been.

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I don't remember exactly the path that traveled down, but it was one of his lawyers.

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But he could totally throw Raynald under there and call him the fed.

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I think that's a great move on his part.

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I guess you could.

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I think that's the way you gotta go.

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Sue Raynald.

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It may be what's happening, I don't know.

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I like it.

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So I also don't believe from my memory of the path through the beginning of this suit

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and everything, I don't believe that Alex did have an awareness of everything that was

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going to happen.

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Absolutely not.

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Absolutely not.

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The story was a little different back then, but oh well.

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So look, all of this comes down to PR firms.

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We've heard this.

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We've heard Alex say this before.

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So what happened with Sandy Hook is I barely covered it.

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Just later they go, how do we demonize Trump by demonizing Jones, by connecting Jones to

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Trump and then demonizing Jones.

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They even bragged about this in major news articles how they did this.

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The PR firms, some of the top ones in the world after they rigged those cases bragged,

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oh, this is how we did it.

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We didn't like Jones.

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We didn't like Trump.

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We went and took what he said out of context, blew it up really huge, acted in the president's

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tents like I was doing things I never did, ran all these stories, got him sued, rigged

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the court cases, wouldn't let us defend ourselves, told him I had hundreds of millions of dollars

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that I made money off these people.

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That was the main thing on my show.

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It was a blip on the radar screen.

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And then now we learned that it was a weaponization training grid on myself to get all the agencies

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and networks and big tech to work together to silence me, to deplatform me, to demonize

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me.

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And then once that one domino fell, they'd be able to ban everybody else.

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Again, Benny has not spoken in quite a while.

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So it sure would be helpful if Alex could ever cite the articles that he's talking about

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or even specify what PR firm this is.

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Seems pretty crucial.

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This is all nonsense.

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And the reason I'm sure of that is because when Alex was on Jimmy Dore's show, Kurt Metzger

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asked Alex what PR firm he was talking about and Alex floundered and didn't provide an

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answer.

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Metzger really wanted Alex's answer to be Midas Touch since they were the people who

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had attacked Joe Rogan, ironically, using video that they got from Alex of Joe being

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racist.

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Oh my God.

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Because Alex could tell that was the answer that Metzger wanted, he implied that that

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was who he was talking about, which makes no sense because Midas Touch didn't exist

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when Alex got sued.

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Huge problem.

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If what Alex is saying is true, there should be no problem at all for him to produce these

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major news articles about them admitting that they ran this whole operation against him.

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It'd be really advantageous for him to be specific, but weirdly, every time there is

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a question about it, he, I'll get the name, I'll figure it out.

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I don't know.

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I would throw it out.

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I don't remember.

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I don't remember the name of this giant Democrat party controlled operated PR firm that has

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monopolized a great number of years of my life.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I feel like he'd remember the day.

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I like the idea because this is the part that, you know, like there's so many times where

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he just moves so fast that you don't stop and think about stuff where it's like, are

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you telling me that the PR firm, like there's a PR firm out there that's like, all right,

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here's our section where it's like, Oh, Cameron Diaz wants to be a people.

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She hasn't been a people for like 10 years.

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And then there's the like, here's where we rig trials section.

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Right?

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Like what kind of agency are they?

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Well, here's the rub.

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Yeah.

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The PR firm is a CIA cutout.

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All right.

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So, ah, so if you're suing the CIA, then you must know the name of the PR firm.

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I would assume you'd sue them too.

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You'd have to.

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Yeah.

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Otherwise it would be a very silly lawsuit.

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I guess we'll learn what that is.

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As well, Kurt Metzger learned of that.

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If he sues them.

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Well, he says he's going to at this next clip.

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Oh, interesting.

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So they staged January 6th, they stole the 2020 election, they try to steal 2022 completely.

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They're already rigging things in cyberspace.

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They're already blocking news.

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They're already sending out the mail mail out ballots.

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They've already got the bird flu all hyped up and ready.

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And they're going to try to run the exact same clips playbook again.

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But now that this has come out, this is a FBI agent, a CIA boss, he's a contract manager

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over large contract operations.

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That's a boss.

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That's like a mini section chief saying all of this and admitting all of this.

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Like it's no big deal.

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He needs to be subpoenaed by Congress.

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I am planning to launch a lawsuit against the CIA and the FBI.

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We have to bring all this out.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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I'm fine.

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It's somebody trying to make deputy ops.

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That's who it is.

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It's always the section chief is like, oh, if I nail this case, I'm going to be right

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there.

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I feel like Alex might be very much embellishing possibly this guy's status.

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I think so.

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I think there's a self-serving reason to do that.

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He's a boss.

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He's a middle manager at best.

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He's a contract manager for a company that-

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Contract officer.

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Yeah.

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And I think that from my understanding of listening to him talk, that means that he

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would go to vendors and like sort out contracts.

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So it's not like he's-

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Contract killings.

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I mean, sure.

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Obviously that could be the contract.

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Otherwise it's very boring.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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He's been doing pensions and compensations at the VA prior to this.

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Right.

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So it would make more sense for him to be, again, in a data and numbers kind of-

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It does seem like that, but again, all I have to go on is a very limited snapshot that's

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provided in that undercover video.

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It's difficult to draw many conclusions about anything, but Alex is drawing a lot.

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Now, let me throw this out at you, right?

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Who knows where the bodies are buried, the requisitions officer, because that's the person

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who's got to ask for shit.

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Like, oh, we need a bunch of body bags over here.

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Ha ha.

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I know who murdered all those people.

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It was us.

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Well, on the LinkedIn page they provided was procurement officer.

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Oh.

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But I don't even know what that means necessarily, and they don't say, so.

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Well, whatever.

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Maybe it's office supplies.

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It's office.

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It could be.

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It's very likely in its office.

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Who knows?

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So, Alex, he doesn't want this.

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Right.

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Fight.

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No.

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I mean, obviously he does, but he doesn't.

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Well, yeah, but-

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I don't want a war with the government.

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I don't like having to take these crooks on, but it's a clear and present danger to everybody

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and it's something I've got to do.

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It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees, but history's shown people

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that live on their feet, they live a lot longer and are freer than people that live on their

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knees and end up being slaves or killed.

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Living on your knees is what gets your ass killed, and I'm not living on my knees.

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This is going viral.

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Excuse me?

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He's responded.

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He wants an investigation.

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He's calling it very disturbing.

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We know he's their new big target along with Trump, so the harder they hit Musk, the harder

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he hits fact.

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So, the globalists are making enemies a lot, lot, lot faster than we are.

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Liberty's incredibly popular everywhere.

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I've been on a week and a half vacation.

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Only take one a year.

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It's over a week long, and I am in a very nice place in America.

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I'm in the US's 50th state, and I have literally shook over a thousand hands the bellhops,

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the people that work here, the military, the police, every person at the pool, every bartender.

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Even TMZ said, yeah, people are walking up, shaking their hands, saying, dude, good job.

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I could walk out right now to the restaurant bar down there and just stand there.

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I had 30 people lined up with autographs and photos, and it's not about me, but people

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hate the deep state and know it's bad so much that when they see me being demonized everywhere,

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it had the opposite effect of only making us stronger.

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Oh, yeah, I see how that's not about you.

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So Alex absolutely wants a war with the government.

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Yeah, I mean, that's the idea, right?

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His entire career has been predicated around fighting the government.

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Saying you don't want it is absurd.

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This is the greatest thing.

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Like, honestly, sure, I feel like that's the next chapter, right?

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It has to be.

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Right?

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The Sandy Hook lawsuit has come to a close.

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The bankruptcy is running its course and probably will be resolved in a fairly timely fashion.

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It's coming towards the point where a decision will be made.

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Seems like it.

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So there is a need for a new saga, because otherwise it's just going to be chasing after

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all this dumb bullshit like the eclipse and what have you.

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So obviously this would be a great next overarching thing for Alex.

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I'm going to fucking turn myself into another Lenny Bruce.

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I'm going to just sue the government and see what happens.

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I just I don't understand why he's not in a situation like because to me, you know,

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you look out across the Lion King land and you see that the light's not touching everything

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anymore.

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There's very little light, right?

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So you convert all of your convertibles into, like, you know, gold and shit, and you leave

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the country and you just disappear, right?

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And then whatever they whatever they can take, they take from you and you just see you just

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become a new guy, lose a lot of weight, get a hair transplant.

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He clearly loves the islands.

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Yeah.

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You should go find an island.

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Absolutely.

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Get tan and red until you explode like a like a failed Wonka character.

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I do I think I mean, Alex said he's going down with the ship, so he's not going to do

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that.

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Oh, terrible idea.

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So the other thing, though, is you were making a joke about how, like with the eclipse, they

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were all saying that, like Zuckerberg's heading for his bunker and stuff like that.

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And it turns out Alex did go to Hawaii.

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He did.

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He did the thing.

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He did the thing.

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It's kind of funny.

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I think he might take more than one vacation a year.

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I love a good day.

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I'm in the United States of America in Hawaii, a place that we absolutely conquered not long

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enough ago.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Fifteenth state.

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I believe in sovereignty.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Not really.

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Sort of whatever we want is ours.

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So I mean, look, I guess my take on this is this is thin as a basis for suing the government.

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Definitely.

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But go ahead.

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Good luck.

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Yeah, that's my feeling.

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I think their attorneys will fuck up so bad that you could win something.

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I do think it would be an interesting waste of time.

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Yeah.

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They really probably wouldn't delay the trial as much as he might hope.

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You know, the CIA wouldn't be like, ah ha ha, we can't find any of the documents that

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Alex wants.

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They'd be like, yeah, let's go.

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Let's go, bud.

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I think I think it would be interesting.

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Yeah.

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So in this next clip, Alex talks about some of the things that happened during his trials

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and such.

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In Hawaii?

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No.

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Oh.

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No.

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The court stuff.

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Right.

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And then Benny talks for the first time in a very long time.

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I'm interested.

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You just said you were planning on suing the federal government.

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What would a Alex Jones versus the U.S. government look like?

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Well, I'm talking to different law firms right now that specialize in this.

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In fact, when I get off to feed with you, I'm going to get back on with all the lawyers.

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It's obviously a civil rights violation.

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It's a government racketeering operation using cutouts.

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And look, I mean, that's my mother, my father, my wife.

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In these mediations, they said, listen, just come out against the Second Amendment and

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we'll drop all this.

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I mean, they've done that repeatedly.

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And they've even said, listen, we're a mafia and there's nothing you can do to stop us

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to my face in front of a lawyer, in front of a lawyer.

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And so they're very arrogant.

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I mean, these are the sellouts.

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These are the traitors.

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These are the people that really love being under the corrupt FBI's wings.

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I wonder, I wonder what that comment was.

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Yeah.

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Because I don't think I don't think it's accurately being conveyed.

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I wonder if someone just like was fucking with him and said something about a mafia.

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I imagine it being if you exasperate a person, even one as professional as possible, eventually

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they'll just go, yeah, we're the mafia.

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Right.

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You know, it's the same kind of thing as like when Alex would say he's out at like abortion

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rallies and people would be like, I love killing my babies.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Fine.

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I love killing my babies.

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If that's what you need for me.

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I'm a demon.

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Yeah.

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I just want to go.

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I just want to be gone from you.

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Right.

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I also don't think that anybody ever said just come out against the second amendment

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and we'll drop this.

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That's a little silly.

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That would be a very strange one.

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Pretty dumb.

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Also, I think the reason that his parents would be involved in any kind of like legal

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stuff is because his dad owns the supplement company that they owed like $50 million to

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weirdly.

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Yeah.

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And then his mom owns like the company that owns that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So there's, you know, there is kind of the like family members holding, holding stakes

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and things.

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Yeah.

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So, I mean, it's not just like rank persecution of someone's family.

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You guys are, you're a business.

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Your family is a business.

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It's a single talent business, I guess, according to your own depositions.

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I like the idea of Alex like, I'm talking to law firms because in my head you just smash

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cut to Simpson's like clown college where people are like throwing pies at each other.

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Yeah.

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I do, I do wonder what kind of a team he could put together if he was going to sue the CIA.

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Cochran's dead, right?

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Cochran's dead.

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Right.

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Right.

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I think so.

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Well, I mean, O.J. just died today.

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Right.

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No.

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No.

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No.

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Who could you get?

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I don't know.

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Who could you get?

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I feel like it has to be, it has to be a down home country southern lawyer.

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Somebody who's like, nah, I'm no big fancy federal lawyer.

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It's gotta be one of those.

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It should be.

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Yeah.

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I think Barnes is itching for the job.

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You don't think he's got the trigger for the job.

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So Benny asks how this could, like, what grounds are you looking at for the suit?

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Sure.

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So when you say you're going to file a civil rights lawsuit against the government over

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this, this is something you've clearly talked about.

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You've retained counsel on this.

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Would you go on First Amendment grounds that they eliminated your right to free speech,

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the right to a free press?

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And it seems like so much of what you do is, of course, crystallized in the First Amendment

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first for a reason.

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I've been talking to four different law firms and I'm literally supposed to be on the one

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of them five minutes ago.

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I will come back with you tomorrow.

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I'll come back with you today.

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I love your show.

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I love your show.

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It's huge.

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But absolutely.

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I've got to get the wheels on this thing rolling.

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And we've got a lot of options.

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But again, it's not for me.

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It's about to put it out in court and show the evidence and then drag them out in the

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light with discovery and show what they've really done.

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And it's about congressional hearings and it's about stopping these rogue agencies that

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have become domestic KGB operations.

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Elon Musk wants to help me.

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I know he's been back in a lot of lawsuits, you know, out there for freedom.

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I would love if the truth came out.

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Good country you got that.

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In the two and a half hour interview we did three or four months ago with Mario DeFaul,

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he said he wanted to hear, you know, the long story.

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So I told him, I talked like 10 minutes to him, the truth about what happened and the

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PR firms.

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He goes, oh yes, the PR firms, which is the intelligence agency's mouthpiece system, how

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they did all that, how they created this, how it shows that it didn't exist.

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Oh yeah.

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You know, it should be pointed out that in that spaces conversation with Elon that Alex

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is talking about, that was another example of a time when Alex was directly asked what

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PR firm he's talking about that admitted to running all of this and he failed to provide

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an answer.

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Weird.

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One suspects that maybe there isn't an answer and this is a talking point.

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Could be possible.

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But yeah, I mean, Elon seems to be back in some stuff.

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Great.

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Also, there was just the transcript of his deposition that Mark took that got released.

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That was certainly some interesting content in there.

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I can't read it because if we...

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And the off chance that it ever becomes...

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I mean, okay, if it doesn't, if the actual video doesn't become available, then we'll

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get people to do a reading of it.

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I guess we could commission that.

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Because it's absurd.

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It's absurd the idea that we can have the transcript, but we can't have the audio, whatever.

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It's the way these things work.

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I know a lot of people have asked if we'll do an episode about it, maybe, if it becomes

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available.

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I would love to.

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I think it would be very interesting.

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The transcript looks electric.

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Oh, God, everything I hear, because I can't even read a little bit.

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That's the idea.

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That's the goddamn idea.

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I got to stay true to the goddamn premise.

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I can't believe that you didn't even catch some little things.

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Nope.

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I've been off the internet real hardcore for the past few...

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We've both been in a head space, and my way of dealing with it has just been leaving the

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internet aside.

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Right.

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Well, there's some interesting revelations.

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I believe it.

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Let me ask you a question.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Is there anything more living on one's knees than hoping that a billionaire will back your

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fake lawsuit?

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It's not fake.

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Okay.

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No, I mean, we will see.

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I do think that they're...

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I do wonder about Alex's ability to pull off a lawsuit like this.

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Sure.

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I just mean more like...

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Without some intervention of a billionaire.

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Right.

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But I mean, his whole stand up my own two feet thing, and it is like you're asking your

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God King, whose feet you're literally licking while we talk, so much so that you lick the

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boot of guys who sound like him.

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True.

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Yeah.

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I just do want to clarify.

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He's not really begging Elon Musk to help me.

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He's throwing it out there.

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Sure.

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He's throwing it out there.

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That's true.

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Right?

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I mean, I don't want you to mischaracterize...

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The secret isn't begging.

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Yeah.

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I got you.

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I got you.

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But there is...

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I do think that without some kind of heavy investment, he would have a difficult time

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pulling off this kind of a lawsuit.

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Yeah.

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Now, that shouldn't be a barrier to entry if it is a legitimate lawsuit, but I'm just

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not convinced that it is a legitimate lawsuit at this point.

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I mean, isn't the idea that if it was a legitimate lawsuit, the CIA would just kill you?

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I think based on everything Alex has led me to believe about the world, yes.

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That's the idea, right?

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Yeah.

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It's only if it's an illegitimate lawsuit that they won't kill you.

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Right.

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I mean, in the real world, if it's a legitimate lawsuit, you would assume the CIA would have

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to pay all the court fees and everything.

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Yeah.

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That's kind of a big deal.

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So, I don't know.

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I'm interested to see where this ball lands because I don't think...

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I don't know if he can pull off not doing this now, but at the same time, doing it seems

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like a rigmarole.

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Seems like a lot of hassle.

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I just don't see how...

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I mean, considering his lawyer's fees as it stands now, although I am imagining his lawyers

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are like, well, we might as well just keep working for him on the off chance eventually

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he pays us because it's...

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I mean, it's a big payday, I think, probably to sue the FBI and CIA.

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If it works, yeah.

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Although I imagine he might be awarded the ceremonial $1.

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Or it might get thrown out of court with prejudice.

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Very much so.

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That was impossible.

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So, you were saying that Alex is doing a little licking of boots.

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He's doing a little boot licking.

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Of Musk.

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Sure.

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I don't know if that's true.

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You don't think so?

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No.

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Okay.

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He just thinks that he's Godzilla fighting against globalists.

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Fair enough.

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I mean, look, here's how the list goes now, okay?

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Of America.

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It goes Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and Elon's almost there.

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Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and then it goes Tucker Carlson, and then it goes Alex Jones,

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and then it moves down from there.

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I was just talking to Joe Rogan yesterday, it wasn't a problem, I mean, I guess it's

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a problem I shouldn't say it, but the point is, he was like, thank God for Elon, because

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he's taken all the heat for us.

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I mean, Joe understands that, so do I.

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Believe it.

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Elon doesn't want to be the number one target.

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When he gets attacked, though, he's going to hit back.

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So I guarantee you, Elon's happy Trump's out there taking the main brunt.

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So it's Trump and then Elon that are up there, like the Godzillas fighting Megalon or the

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three-headed dragon, and we're like military fighting with Godzilla, with our missile launchers,

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you know, shooting at the dragon, trying to help Godzilla.

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So it's like Trump and just like two Godzillas are out there fighting the globalists, and

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I'm like an army general, fire the missiles, fire the missiles at the three-headed dragon.

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I mean, the three-headed dragon like zaps through the electricity, our troops are all

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blowing up.

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I mean, just think about Godzilla movies, that's basically what this is.

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I've never thought about it in kaiju terms.

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Thank you, Alex.

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That will create meme content for the rest of all time.

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So we thank you.

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Well, that's what I love, is they wanted to shut me down, they called me as the Kaiju

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seven years ago, and I had a little - and the camera pulls back with this little kaiju,

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and they're like, we defeated this kaiju, and I'm like kind of bloody on the ground

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hurt.

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And then my - and then daddy comes along and he pulls back, and there's Trump and

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Elon, I'm like, rrraaar.

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They don't know what to do.

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It's ridiculous.

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Think of an analogy, like kaiju looks big and then zoom in and pull back.

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I was like this little kaiju with this big giant missile.

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We're going to have to animate it.

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We're just - we're going to have to get the animation going.

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I will buy a ticket.

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So I think Alex might have gotten over Dune and gone to see Kong.

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Possible.

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Godzilla Kong.

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Godzilla X Kong or whatever it is, yep.

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I think maybe there's a new movie on the horizon.

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Oh man.

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Oh man, you can see why I've been avoiding the internet if this will make meme content

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forever.

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Yes!

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Have fun.

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Such good Godzilla meme content.

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And how dare Alex pretend he doesn't know King Ghidorah.

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Yeah.

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He knows.

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I mean, come on.

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If he's got Megalon in the tank, he's got Ghidorah in there too.

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You know, I think I was just thinking about this.

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I remember whenever people were like, oh, you gotta find a way to go viral.

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You know, back in the early days, whenever things would occasionally go viral and you'd

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be like, whoa, and everybody would do that.

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And then you got to find a way to do that.

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I feel like these people figured out a way to do that and they just manufacture it so

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much that like, just the idea of it is ridiculous.

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Yeah.

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And the idea of a meme going viral now is like, who fucking cares?

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Yeah.

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You know?

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I wonder if that's just our brains and the way we relate with social media.

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Maybe that's the case, but yeah, it does feel that way.

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It doesn't feel like things blowing up.

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Is that meaningful anymore?

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I mean, we could just be old, you know, everything gets worse when you get, you know, everything

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gets like less exciting, you know, when you've been around too much.

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Maybe for the youth, there's a new form of virality.

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Totally.

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That's what we know about it.

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There are TikToks and the whole thing.

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Oh, the TikToks.

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Oh.

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With the dancing.

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Even that's probably like 10 years old because I saw it in a Godzilla Kong movie.

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Right.

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Parody.

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Yep.

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So that's when he comes back from break, Owen is hosting and we've reached the culmination

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of this.

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As a post script, they did release another video with this guy on Thursday when we're

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recording on Thursday.

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Okay.

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I mean, they did, but it had nothing to do with Alex and it was about Ukraine.

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And so it does not advance our story at all with Alex and his pending lawsuit against

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the government, but Alex claims that there are other things to be released.

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So we will see.

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We'll see.

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I'll reserve judgment.

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I'm fascinated.

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I wonder what the, I assume that it's going to be that the CIA is behind Russia or like

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behind Ukraine, fighting back, sending advisors to Ukraine.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So it's not like the, the Alex Jones or like the, cause of the far right version is usually

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like the CIA is causing all of this in some way.

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Right.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So in this case it's just like actually the regular.

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And that was in like the New York Times months ago.

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Yeah.

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They send people to advice.

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Yeah.

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We do that in like all conflicts, right?

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Like there's suddenly an American shows up and is like, here's who you bombed, you know?

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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It's not related to Alex in the world, but also not related to Alex and his, his difficulties.

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So I, I, I await further context and information about that.

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So yeah, I mean, we have, I guess a little bit of a, the abbreviated episodes on Monday

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and Friday this year, but Alex is like, he's been on vacation.

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What do you want me to do?

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I mean, I'm angry enough as it is.

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This is something that has the potential to be big story for Alex.

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And I think, I think we got, we got some legs here.

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Uh, we're in the, we're in the need for a new season in his, uh, his, his trouble.

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If he goes, I think he, he's got to go people versus Larry Flint kind of way.

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Right.

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You know what I'm saying?

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But instead reverse it.

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Larry Flint versus people.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Like, you know, like Lenny Bruce towards the end of his career took all the, like the profanity

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laws and stuff became over, like eclipsed his career.

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It did drive him insane and ruin his life.

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I think that's what Alex needs to do.

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It does seem like a good way for him to move forward.

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It's the next chapter.

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I like it.

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So I guess, I mean, we'll see what happens, but, uh, for now, um, I guess Alex might sue

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the CIA and the FBI.

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Best of luck.

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Um, until, uh, we, we'll be back for another episode, but until then, uh, we have a website.

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Indeed we do.

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It's knowledgeright.com.

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Yep.

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We're also on Blue Sky.

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We are on Blue Sky.

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It's Knowledge Rights.

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Yep.

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We'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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We'll be back.

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We'll be back.

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Woo.

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Yeah.

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Woo.

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Yeah.

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Woo.

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And now here comes the sex robots.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.