Transcript/903: April 7, 2004

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["Ridea"]

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N-n-n-n-n-n-knowledge fight.

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Ehh.

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Bleh.

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Ehh.

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Bleh.

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Ehh.

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Bleh.

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Damn, Ed, Jordan, I am sweating.

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Ehh.

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Bleh.

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Bleh.

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Knowledgefight.com.

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It's time to pray.

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I have great respect for knowledge fight.

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Knowledge fight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying,

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We are the bad guys. Knowledge fight.

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Dan and Jordan.

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Knowledge fight.

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Ridea.

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Ridea.

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Ridea.

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Ridea.

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Bleh.

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I need, I need money.

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Ridea.

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Ridea.

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Ridea.

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Ridea.

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Ridea.

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Ridea.

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Andy and Kansas.

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Andy and Kansas.

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Andy and Ch- Andy or-

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Stop it.

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Andy and Ch- Andy and Kansas.

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Andy and Ch- Andy and-

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Andy and-

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Andy and-

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Just time to pray.

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Andy and Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello Alex.

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I'm a first-time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Knowledge fight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're a couple dudes.

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I'd like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about

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Alex Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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I have a quick question for you.

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What's up?

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What's your Bright Spot today, buddy?

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My Bright Spot today, Jordan, is this is a little bit overdue and a little bit, it meant

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to do this sooner, but things have gotten in the way.

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A while back I started a substack, stackys.substack.com, and I put out two posts on it and then had

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a little bit of a hurdle, a little medical condition that limited my ability to expand

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into other side projects and such.

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And then also I had a very terrible situation.

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So that substack is largely taking Alex's emails and stuff and discussing editorial

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decisions and things that you can learn from them.

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I had been going over all of these thousands and thousands of emails and making notes on

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them and stuff.

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And then my computer crashed and I lost that document.

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Oh my God.

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And so I had to start pretty much all over going through these emails.

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You're not telling the truth.

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That can't be real.

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It is, unfortunately.

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So there had been a bit of a setback and I've been meaning to get back to it because I don't

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want this to be just yet another thing that I set out and embark to do and then, oh wow,

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you know, this is another mustard, this is another year of the mustard.

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I mean, you're, well, you know, you don't set easily achievable goals.

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Let's put it that way.

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I may, I may want to do more than I can, but there will be new posts.

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I'm not sure exactly how, like the periodicalness of it.

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I don't know the rate.

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But March 1st, March 1st, March 1st, there'll be a new post on there.

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So that's exciting.

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The stackies is exciting.

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But yeah, we'll see.

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We'll see how consistent it is.

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But there'll at least be a few more posts on there.

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It's tough.

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It's tough.

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Yeah.

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It's tough.

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And then also trying to figure out like, all right, you know, I only have a limited number

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of source materials here.

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What is it?

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What could it be other than that?

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So I'm trying to figure out other things that could go on that sub stack.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, it's there.

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I mean, I assume it's not just going to eventually devolve into opining about different backpacks

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you've seen on the subway.

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You don't know.

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And whether or not they are okay.

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We all have a path to go down, and maybe that's the one I will.

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I think Grumpy old commentator seems great for you.

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Sure.

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I think that would be great.

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Or episode by episode breakdown of some show.

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Like maybe I'll do Lost.

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That'd be great.

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Survivor.

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Totally.

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Something like that.

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No reason not to.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You don't have to be a Grumpy Gus all the time.

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You can get into the good stuff.

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Get into the fun.

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Oh, no, no, no, no.

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Be very grumpy about those shows.

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Yeah, I know.

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It's true.

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He would be very grumpy about that.

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So what's your bright spot?

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I suppose I'll just go ahead and say the weather is nice outside.

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It was snowing yesterday or the day before.

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It was snowing yesterday night.

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And now it's almost 60.

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25 degrees at 5 a.m. when I had to take the dogs out this morning.

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And now it's 60 degrees and it's bright and sunny and it's beautiful.

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I was sitting in the apartment and the wind blowing through the walls and shit.

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It sounded like things crashing.

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It was nuts.

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That winter storm that broke out and now it's 60 like a day or two later.

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This is not healthy.

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Just nothing.

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It was, yeah, no, I took the dogs out the night before.

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Everything was covered in a layer of ice and then about an hour ago everything is just

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drenched wet outside of my, yeah.

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And it's shorts time.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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It's beautiful.

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Yeah, that is nice.

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I mean, it's better than the snow.

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First time I haven't worn a coat in about four or six months, something like that.

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I have a coat that is torn to shit because it's so old.

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I didn't even realize it has a big rip inside the backside of it.

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That one.

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And so I have been like putting it off.

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Yeah.

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I'm like, I need a new coat.

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Sure.

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And I mean to get one, but I'm like, I'll just make it to the end of this winter and

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then we'll initiate next year.

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Now is when you get a cheap coat.

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Well, no, in a couple of months.

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Sure.

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Then you strike.

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Yeah, you survive the winter coatless only to get a cheap coat in the summer.

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Yeah.

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Oh, except you'll probably forget and then wind up needing one.

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Absolutely.

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Then I'll wear this one next year and then I'll make the excuses and then we'll see

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it about five years.

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It's the circle of life.

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So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over and we're going to be in the past because

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I've gotten enough of Alex's, a lot of hate going on in the present day and it just feels

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like we need, I think, you know, probably listeners need, and I more so need to get

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a break.

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A virtual break.

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Need a breaky from that nonsense.

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Right.

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And so we're going back to the past, we're going to be in 2004 and we've landed on April

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7th, 2004.

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All right.

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There's a couple of days of meh, but this episode is nuts.

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Okay.

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It's nuts in a way that I didn't really expect.

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A lot of times when I'm listening to episodes, I'm like, ah, I get a sense of what's happening

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here.

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In this episode, I got so blindsided by the end of it that I was like, I got to go.

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I got to reassess what happened.

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Okay.

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So anyway, this is a pretty cryptic.

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There's an M. Night Shyamalan like, oh my God, has this been there from the beginning?

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I need to rewatch?

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It's the quality of some of Shyamalan's lesser work.

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Okay.

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Like Avatar, the last airbender.

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That's what I hear.

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Yeah.

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So we'll get down to business on this here past times episode, but until we do that,

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before we do that, let's say hello to some new walks.

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That's a great idea.

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So first, American Dialing Code Neon Nips.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Uh, next a dedication in two parts to George, the finest feline who will be missed dearly

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and to all the wonderful people on the KF discord server.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next that one with the boobs.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next Sloth Philosophy.

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Who never got his buttons?

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Yep.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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I'd love to get you that button.

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I do have bags of buttons.

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We'll, we'll, we'll see.

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Uh, next Alex in Aberfan, South Wales, parenthetically.

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It's true.

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He does look like a lot of Welsh men.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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And we get a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

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So thank you so much to Emery Corps, providing a better today, tomorrow with the knowledge

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that Chicago rules and Madison drools.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I have risen above my enemies.

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I might quit tomorrow, actually.

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I'm just going to take a little break, you know, a little breaky for me.

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And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over, but I'm the

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devil.

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I got to be taking all the hair off, you know, fuck you.

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Fuck you.

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I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your new world

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order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit.

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Maybe today should be my last broadcast.

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Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.

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Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.

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That's really what I want to do.

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I never want to come back here again.

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I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns

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on air.

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I'll be better tomorrow.

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Nope.

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But also, fuck you, Madison.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I've been to Madison, Wisconsin once or twice.

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I think it's a fine town.

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I got nothing against Madison.

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I mean, hey, as far as Madison goes, comedy on state, boy, that makes up for a lot.

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People like that.

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Makes up for a lot.

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Yeah.

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I never got to perform there.

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Oh, really?

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Nope.

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Oh, man.

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Never booked.

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It is one of those rooms.

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Never performed in Appleton?

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Is that the same club?

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Skyline?

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No.

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No.

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Never performed there either.

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I've never performed there either.

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No.

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Wisconsin, not a hot city for me.

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I guess I did do Milwaukee a couple times.

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Milwaukee and Madison, yeah.

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But I mean, it's not like I did time on it.

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Kenosha?

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I wasn't booked on comedy on state.

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Yeah.

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How about South Beloit?

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Yep.

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Love it.

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I prefer North Beloit.

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So we started off the episode.

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Alex has some news that is going to kick off the show.

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All right.

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This is Justin from Sky Television News, national television in the United Kingdom.

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Report 130 soldiers killed in Iraq.

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We're not hearing that here, are we?

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A Pentagon source has set up 130 U.S. troops have been killed in fierce fighting in Iraq

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in the last day.

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The large-scale battle, described as intense, has taken place in the town of R. Ramadi,

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20 miles west of Foljala.

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So this is a real Sky News article that Alex is reporting on, but it ultimately turned

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out not to be correct.

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Alex consistently pronounces Fallujah like that, but I don't want to be too much of a

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dick about it.

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I mispronounce things all the time.

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Oh, I just want to be...

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Yeah, I'm pointing it out for the sake of clarity.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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So this has to do with the battle that broke out in Ramadi on April 6th, and in the first

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day of fighting, 12 U.S. soldiers were killed.

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The thing is that even in the Sky News article, the reporter David Chatter is quoted as saying,

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quote, none of this is official yet, none of this is confirmed, which should be a cause

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to take the numbers that are being cited with a grain of salt.

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Alex isn't into that.

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He takes the unconfirmed numbers as concrete and then accuses the other media outlets of

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not covering the story.

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In reality, other U.S. mainstream media outlets covered this battle, and with a gift of hindsight,

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they were much more accurate.

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CNN reported, quote, as many as a dozen U.S. Marines were killed Tuesday in heavy fighting

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in the western Iraq town of Ramadi.

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The Washington Post had an article about it, as did the New York Times and the Los Angeles

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Times.

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The Chicago Tribune covered the story, saying, quote, about a dozen U.S. Marines were killed

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Tuesday as fighting across Iraq intensified.

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They said about a dozen because, all told, the fatalities included these 12 Marines,

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another U.S. soldier, and one coalition soldier from Ukraine.

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I was trying to figure out where this 130 number could have come from, and the best

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guess that I have is that it was a mistake on the part of the Sky News reporter.

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The Chicago Tribune article includes a figure that 130 Iraqis had died since fighting broke

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out that Sunday, which I have a suspicion is what is being confused by the Sky News

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article and then reported by Alex.

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I'm not sure.

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That's just my best guess.

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But whatever the case is for what happened, it appears that this unconfirmed figure was

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inaccurate, but may actually reflect the death toll on the Iraqi side.

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Yeah.

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It's possible.

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Yeah.

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This highlights an important feature of Alex's news philosophy, though.

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Here you can see him finding something a bit speculative that works pretty well for his

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narratives.

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Instead of recognizing the speculative nature of the story, he treats it as rock solid,

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and not only that, the rest of the media refuses to even cover the story.

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It's incredibly important for Alex to present the rest of the media as covering up all the

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truths that he relays to the audience, because those same media outlets often report out

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information that debunks his narratives, so nothing they say should be taken seriously.

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Yeah.

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Except for when Alex needs to use them as like even major media saying.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That is interesting.

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Because when you're talking about 2004 and this kind of corroboration, he doesn't just

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have Twitter.

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He doesn't just have somebody who will send out a tweet and he'll be like, okay, this

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is the lie I'm going to base something off of.

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What do you...

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A lot of times, it's really message boards.

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I mean, yeah.

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It's so fascinating how social media has tinged backwards all of the ways that we kind of

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view this kind of news.

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I don't know how I would process it now.

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Well, I think you, well...

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Without a social media to scream in every possible direction.

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And hear everybody screaming.

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And hear everybody screaming.

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Yeah.

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You know, I just went to school that day.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I think that you see this bit of reporting from Sky News that says nothing is confirmed.

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You take it as like, wow, that could be bad.

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Yeah.

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I mean, obviously war is always bad.

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But this could be something or it could be off.

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Who knows?

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And then you wait for confirmation and more solid reporting.

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Yeah.

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You have to...

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Which doesn't work now with social media.

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No.

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No, no.

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Absolutely not.

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You're right.

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You would be unconfirmed and you would go, oh, well, then I'll hold off.

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Right.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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And that would be it.

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And then you would hold off.

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Mm-hmm.

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Not Alex.

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No.

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Even without social media and all those influences, he's still doing the same thing that people

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are now doing with social media.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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So we got an introduction of a narrative that will take over the rest of the show here in

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this next clip.

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We've got their press release now.

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We're going to get them on the show.

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The owner of the number one bar disco in Madrid, Spain, where to get into the VIP section,

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you've got to take a microchip and they're doing it right now.

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And how many times did I tell you it's going to be a status symbol?

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Your teenage children within just a few years will be demanding that they get the chip.

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They will run out to the so-called tattoo parlors that are now being signed on by Barra

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chip.

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It'll be a counter...

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Sorry, what?

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Sold to you directly by the military industrial complex.

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And there's now a bus here in the U S embedded microchip seller, Barra chip announces chip

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mobile is on the move.

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Watch for the chip mobile coming to your town or neighborhood.

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Like the ice cream truck children lining up for their chips.

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We got that on the website books.

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There's so much, the show is going to be absolutely huge.

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So huge.

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I think it's safe to say that Alex was a little bit off on his chip prediction.

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If anyone is trying to get making chips seem cool in 2024, it's his good buddy, Elon Musk.

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And Alex is not criticizing him about that.

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He's spending his time on air, pretending that Musk is purely using his neuro-link chips

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to treat disabilities because covering it that way allows the audience to pretend that

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Musk isn't doing the exact shit Alex has claimed the globalists are trying to do for decades.

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Anyway, this is about a club in Barcelona, not Madrid, and it's called the Baja beach

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club.

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The owners decided that it would be a good idea to offer the option to people to get

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a chip implant that would serve as their VIP membership card, although they could still

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opt for a non-chip membership if they preferred.

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The thinking was that people were going to go to a dance club and they didn't want to

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worry about having a purse or wallet that could be stolen, and that having a digital

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membership you could use to buy drinks would be really convenient.

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One guy who got the chip was interviewed and he summed up the appeal saying, quote, you

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don't need money in your pockets and you can't lose it either when you are jumping.

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The chip is jump-dancing safe.

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Can't argue.

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I mean, yeah, if you take a lot of E and rave, then a chip is perfect for not remembering

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where your money is.

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I need to jump.

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Yeah.

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Pretty regularly.

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You need to jump.

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So by the end of 2004, only 12 people had opted for the chip VIP card, but this is kind

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of the best outcome possible for that bar.

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You want a ton of people not necessarily to take this option because doing so removes

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the VIP element of it all.

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And really, at the end of the day, this was a move primarily aimed at drumming up publicity

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for the club, which was wildly successful.

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By 2008, they'd abandoned the chip program entirely.

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So this company, VeriChip, did operate what they called a chip mobile, but it wasn't like

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an ice cream truck.

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It went to senior citizen centers and offered the chips to Alzheimer's patients.

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There were a bunch of articles in like 2002 about the chip mobile providing chips for

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eight people and how that technology could be really helpful in situations where disoriented

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patients arrive at a hospital and may not be able to provide staff with important details

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like who they are or what they might be allergic to.

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Of course, people in Alex's world called this the Mark of the Beast because something has

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to be called the Mark of the Beast every month or so.

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So that was this one for this time.

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Man, that's just...

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Ice cream truck.

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So it's just the chips that they put in pets.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And there were some medical applications that the FDA approved for humans.

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Sure.

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Yeah, I mean, every time I've seen a pet go to a vet and they just scan the chip and they've

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got everything, I've been like, yeah, let's just chip people.

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That makes sense.

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Just scan the shit and then let's move on.

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Well, I think there's some concerns and definitely a debate that could be had, but I also think

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that some of the fear about it is maybe a little overblown.

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Yeah.

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We'll get to explore all of these ideas in the coming episode.

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I believe that.

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I believe you.

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So Alex has a bit of a prediction in this clip.

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You can guess, you can decide for yourself if this was a good prediction.

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Okay.

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Hashtag Alex Jones is right.

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Okay.

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Let me tell you this.

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Now, you know, I make predictions and unfortunately they've all come true.

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I will now make one.

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Let me make a conservative guess or estimate or prediction.

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Wait.

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I thought it was a prediction.

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Because I would say two years, but to be safe, I will say within four years, there will be

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reports every week, you, many of you as listeners will experience it as your 14 year old daughter

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or son throws a fit and demands the I am 12 mega chip and say, all my friends are getting

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it.

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I can't get in to certain events.

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I'm not cool.

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I can't interface the internet, you know, through my computer sunglasses.

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If I don't have this, I've got to have it.

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And your child will come home and you will never know until they're 20 years old that

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six years before they were implanted with a chip and they're going to take the chip

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and if you catch them, they're going to scream and yell at you.

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If you find the receipt in their, in their, in their dresser drawer, they're going to

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say, I deserve it.

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You old coop, you weirdo Christian, this is so cool, you know, Donnie G, the Mac G rapper

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has it.

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And then, you know, all these cool people have got it.

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You're not going to stop me.

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It's mine.

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Now I'm serious.

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He's serious.

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He's serious.

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So this, this one did not, uh, conservative conservative estimate four years, 2008.

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Yeah.

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That's what happened.

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Here's what I, here's what I love.

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Here's what I love so much about predictions, the big G about, about what the kids will

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find cool.

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Those predictions are made almost entirely by people who have never and will never be

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cool.

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True.

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You know?

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And it's like the, the, the Google glasses are like, Oh, people are going to love wearing

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cool AR glasses.

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It's going to be so cool.

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And everybody saw it and they're like, you look like a fucking idiot, man.

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And then we all just moved on.

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Yeah.

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There are, there's a, there's some, uh, harsh awakenings for people who have ideas.

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Yeah.

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And I think that Alex is basing this off, like, I don't know, his love of sci-fi when

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he was a kid and shit like this.

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And you know, I, I just, I don't know.

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I don't, I don't preclude the possibility that there could come a time in the future

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where some kind of, you know, chip is useful in some applications in society.

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Yeah.

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Why not?

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I don't foresee a future where kids are going and getting chips behind your parents' back

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at your parents' find the receipt because Donnie D, the Mac G rapper.

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I want to try and be clear because I know parents are all very scared of like the,

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you know, what's the next thing kids are going to find cool, you know?

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And I'm going to tell you this.

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There's only two things, sex and drugs.

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Still cool.

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And we're cool when I was a kid before that, before that, there's a couple of other sort

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of sure.

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There's new ones.

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Fireworks.

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No, I mean things that are always, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know, there's sex, drugs, fireworks, to a certain group blades.

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Yeah.

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You have the blade group is always, but you know, slight danger.

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As long as you let the blade group be free and happy and Rome, they're good.

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It's when you try and cage them that they get into trouble.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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So Alex is going to have an interview with the guy who runs the Baja Beach Club.

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I'm sorry.

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Alex had mentioned that already.

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He said, we got the press release.

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We're going to have this guy on.

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And I thought that meant in a future episode.

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The Spanish guy.

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He's not Spanish.

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He's American.

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He lives in Barcelona.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And I realized that that was meant like in a couple of minutes, we're going to interview

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this guy.

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Okay.

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So he comes in.

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Right.

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And this is one of the weirdest fucking interviews that I've ever heard.

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Okay.

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Alex is so nice to this guy.

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What?

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Because he's trying to bait him.

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Right.

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And we'll see this play out over the course of the interview.

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Okay.

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But here, here's where we begin.

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We've been talking about the global move to making an implantable radio frequency identification

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microchip to be the global identification system.

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And I've talked about how it's something we'll first see in VIP circles.

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And we are honored to be joined by Conrad Chase, the director of the Baja Beach disco

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bars that's in several European countries.

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And then it's the top of the line club system.

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Top of the line.

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And he has been implanted with the very chip radio frequency identification system.

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And he was implanted on the national television show called Big Brother over there.

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And now the VIPs of the bar, those that went into the VIP room will have it.

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And joining us from Madrid, Spain is Conrad Chase, who happens to be an American.

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That's right.

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Good to have you on the show.

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Good to be here.

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In Barcelona, Spain, actually.

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Okay.

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I apologize.

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No, no.

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It's probably our fault.

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My secretary probably screwed up with that.

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No.

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I'm sure it's our fault.

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But they're in Barcelona.

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So right off the bat, Alex is introducing the theme of this interview.

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The globalists are trying to make you get an RFID chip, and their plan is to make it

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seem cool.

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His interview subject, Conrad Chase, is the owner of a bar that's offering microchips

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for VIPs, which is supposed to be the exact thing the globalists would do.

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He's saying that the special people get chips.

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Conrad doesn't realize at this point, but that's the accusation that's running underneath

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this entire interview.

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He's there on trial, but he doesn't know that, because he's a bar owner who thinks he's doing

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a promotional interview for the bar.

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But in reality, Alex is setting him up.

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The first thing Conrad does is correct Alex about his bar being in Barcelona, not Madrid.

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And Alex is so gracious about it.

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He's the most agreeable interview you could ever imagine.

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And this is a strategy that Alex is going to employ in this interview to put Conrad

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at ease, which works really well, to take advantage of him, essentially.

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So when I said that there was the Shyamalan twist or whatever, it's this.

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This interview, when I was listening to the episode, I thought, snooze, incredibly bleh.

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But then, as the rest of the show went on, I'm like, oh no, no, we have to break down

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the minutiae of this interview of Alex being so nice to this guy and trying to lure him

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into traps.

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Right, gotcha.

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Okay, so what is, what eventually turns out to be a non-eventful walk through the forest

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in the real world should have been filled with traps, explosives, and like, he falls

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and then gets, it lands on spikes.

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Well, I think it's a pretty-

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Alex is just bad at leading him to the traps.

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No, he falls into a bunch of traps.

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Oh, he falls into a bunch of traps.

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But they're really boring.

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I mean, in the real world, this is a boring interview.

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Within the prism of Infowars, it becomes the most sinister, evil thing that Alex has ever

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experienced, and that's jarring.

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It's very difficult to explain, but you'll see it as things go on.

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Like if somebody goes into a McDonald's and everybody's having a great time and they just

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behave as if they're haunted, like just terrified, just constant, there's ghosts everywhere,

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and all you see is everybody in like the play place sliding down slides, just having a grand

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old time.

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Yeah, but if one person was dressed as a ghost.

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Oh, okay.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So there's a little bit of the appearance here.

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So you're like, okay, maybe this will be fine.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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But that's just ghosty Pete.

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He's a local character.

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Ghosty Pete's always there.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Okay.

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So Alex asks about Conrad being chipped, and here's the answer for that.

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You yourself have been implanted.

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Can you tell us about that?

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I have, yes.

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I have the Vera chip, VIP chip, in my arm.

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It is a radio frequency ID tag.

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It's a micro transmitter.

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It only transmits when the reader is in the vicinity, and the reader has to charge the

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chip before it to actually transmit its identifying signal.

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So you cannot be localized all over the world via satellite, as some people may fear.

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Okay.

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Now, when you go into the club, why did you decide to start this program at the Barcelona

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club?

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Exactly.

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Well, we just opened our new VIP lounge here on the 25th.

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We had the inauguration of our VIP lounge, and I wanted to have something very unique

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that no other club had, and we were able to achieve that with the VIP chip.

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So if you didn't get the sense that something was off about this interview, this should

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be setting off huge alarm bells at this point.

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Conrad is telling Alex that the RFID chips require the power from the reader to even

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operate, so they can't be used to track people.

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Under normal circumstances, Alex would hear that and shout the person down, but instead,

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he hears it and just moves to the next question.

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It's very curious, and if I were in Conrad's position, I would be like, hang up, hang up.

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I love it.

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He's trying to get out in front of things.

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He's like, hey, listen, I understand.

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Before you even go any further, people have had joking questions and reasonable feared

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questions of like, oh, can the satellites follow me?

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No, I guarantee they have not.

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And Alex not screaming, yes, they fucking can, and I'll kill your child.

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That doesn't make sense to me.

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But Conrad doesn't necessarily probably even know who Alex is, so he doesn't know that

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that's weird.

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No clue.

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He's just having a normal conversation.

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But the second question there reveals a lot.

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When he was asked why he did the chip thing, Conrad basically says that they want to do

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something splashy to promote the opening of their new VIP lounge.

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This is a promotional interview, as far as Conrad knows, because this whole thing is

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marketing.

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It's a whole thing.

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And I think Alex understands that.

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I think he understands what this guy's interest in being there is, and he's using that to

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his advantage.

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Right.

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Because Alex understands that it is marketing.

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Yeah.

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Like, on a fundamental level, he understands that truly, this is marketing.

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I am not actually discovering the Mark of the Beast on some fucking VIP club in Barcelona.

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And this guy has an interest in marketing himself, his club, this technology, and all

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this stuff.

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Right.

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So he can use that against him.

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Right.

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Do a judo move.

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Right.

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And make that appear to be marketing for the New World Order.

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Okay.

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So what I'm hearing is that this is our proto-Tucker Putin interview.

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I don't know about that.

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Oh.

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I mean, this is a guy who runs a bar, and Alex Jones in 2004.

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Yes, but he has supreme power over the bar, and Alex Jones is essentially where Tucker

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is now back in 2004.

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I think it's debatable if he has supreme power over the bar.

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You've got 12 people who give VIP chips.

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Well, yeah, but he could kill any of them remotely at any time.

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No, he couldn't.

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Yeah, see?

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Okay, fine.

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So Alex asks, you know, you've got some other bars.

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Yeah.

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Are those ones going to have some chips in them?

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Yeah, well, obviously.

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Is this going to be done at the U.S. and British and the club in Holland?

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It's definitely going to be done in my club in Holland, and I will be opening soon in

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Cologne, Germany, another Baja Beach club.

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And the England, the clubs in Britain are actually a franchise, so I haven't had the

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opportunity to speak with them yet to find out whether they are interested or not.

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But I'm quite sure that this concept is really growing, and I'm quite sure that they'll be

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interested soon.

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So Conrad probably thinks that's a perfectly innocent question that someone with interest

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in doing a promotional interview might ask.

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But it's actually Alex grilling this guy.

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These questions are being delivered with all the fake respect Alex can muster, and they're

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designed to elicit responses that Alex can incorporate into the narrative that he's building.

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For instance, this question was fishing for a response that the chip plan was going to

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be incorporated in all these other clubs, particularly the ones in the United States,

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so Alex could claim that the globalists are doing a trial run in Barcelona, but their

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main plan is to bring it here so they can chip all of his patriot buddies.

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Conrad doesn't realize it, but Alex is asking him set-up questions, which explains why he's

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being so pleasant.

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He doesn't want to raise any alarm bells and get this fish off the hook.

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Yeah, this is close to an FBI, like, you're not under suspicion, we're just coming in

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for a conversation, this is totally normal.

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Anything you say absolutely, totally won't be used against you, cut to.

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So Alex asks again about, hey, you got your own chip, right?

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Sure.

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Because the answer to that one went a little off the rails, and Alex really wants to nail

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down this idea that you got it on Big Brother.

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Absolutely.

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Which is apparently...

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Wait, Big Brother the TV show?

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Yeah.

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He was on Big Brother?

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Gran Hermano, the Spanish version.

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Can you tell us about your implantation procedure and where that took place, because that's

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very interesting.

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Sure.

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Well, we did it actually on a Thursday night at 2 o'clock in the morning while the club

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was open, and performed it right here in the club in the VIP lounge, and I had a doctor

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come to perform the procedure.

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It can be performed by any licensed nurse who is certified or is trained in...

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Yeah, it's very convenient, a one-time deal, very easy to get the chip.

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It's a simple injection.

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Really, really simple.

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Straightforward.

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They do use a small needle to put a small anesthesia in first, and then they put the

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chip in, and it's not painful at all because of the local anesthetic.

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Now, I had read that this was also broadcast on some television there on a show called

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Big Brother?

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Yeah.

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Actually, it wasn't broadcast on Big Brother.

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What we had was the people from Big Brother came to our club and were going to be chipped

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at...

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It turned out being that on the night there was a great deal of chaos, the club was just

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so busy that we wound up not finding the chip, and then that night they're going to come

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by next week.

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So they're going to videotape it later for the show?

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Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Ah.

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Well, that would kind of fit with the show, I guess.

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Sure.

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So Alex had some details wrong because he saw the words Big Brother in an article by

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Conrad that he skimmed and wrote his own story about it.

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The way this was supposed to go was that Conrad would say that he got the chip on Big Brother,

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which is a subtle message.

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The globalists are laughing at you.

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Nominative determinism, yeah.

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In the real world, Conrad was on season six of the Spanish version of Big Brother, but

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that wouldn't end up being until September 2004, which is months after this.

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The way Big Brother works is that the show is being filmed as it's airing because audience

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votes end up altering various aspects of the game, and in the Spanish version, the audience

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actually voted who to evict from the house.

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It wasn't a house vote as it is in the American version.

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It seems to me that the only way that this could work is that some people who work on

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the show were going to get a chip to become VIPs as part of a video package that Conrad

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about him that would play at the start of the season to flesh out his character.

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That's the only thing that makes sense, because it couldn't have been other contestants getting

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chipped since it was months before that season started, and it's months after the previous

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season had ended.

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So there's just no way unless this was like a video package that they were filming because

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he was going to be on the next season.

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Right.

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In fact, Conrad came in second that season.

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He came in second?

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Good for him.

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Not a fun fact, but yeah, good for him.

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Good for him.

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Proud of him.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So he's on Big Brother.

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I mean...

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That show sucks.

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I'm not sure if the Spanish version...

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Wait, Gran Hormano sucks?

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I don't know if Gran Hormano sucks.

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Man, it makes me...

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That's such a better name.

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I just love...

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Yeah, Big Brother is very mundane and annoying, but Gran Hormano?

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I'll watch the shit out of Gran Hormano.

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Gran Hormano is the longest running international version of Big Brother, from what I understand.

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Obviously.

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Have you heard the name?

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It's been on for fucking ever.

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Yeah.

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Man, that show is a mess.

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Anyway, this interview goes on towards other subjects, and I think that if I were Conrad

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at a certain point, I would start to realize like, man, he's asking a fair amount of questions

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that aren't about my bar and aren't about this VIP program.

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Maybe I should be a little bit on guard.

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That's what happens when you're disarmed.

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You had told my producer that FN Herzl, a big manufacturer of firearms, is moving ahead

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with a chip for the hand to access your firearm.

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Yes, Alex.

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That's very interesting what they're doing.

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It's really a great idea, because the policeman that will be using it, they will have the

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chip implanted in their firing hand, right in between the thumb and forefinger, and that

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will actually provide a means of allowing the pistol to function.

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If somebody were to steal the pistol from them, it does them no good.

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It cannot fire unless you've got the proper chip in the hand.

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Right.

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There's a move here in the US to make all the gun manufacturers put RFID in the gun.

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Then you wear a ring that activates.

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There's a move actually to make that the law by 2006.

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Do you think that's a good idea?

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I think it's a great idea.

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It'd be much easier to have the chip, though.

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I think it'd be a lot easier to have the chip, because then you have the other advantages

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of having the chip.

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You cannot lose it.

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A ring, you can lose.

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The chip, you cannot lose.

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You don't have to worry about forgetting it if you ever were to check it off.

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Fair point.

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So this is getting a bit rangy.

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Conrad's a guy who manages this bar in Barcelona, who's trying to whip up press for his new

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VIP lounge.

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He's the bar manager.

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But he also seems to be pretty into the microchip technology personally.

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He seems to be a fan.

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But I'm left wondering why it matters that he thinks it's a good idea to have chips for

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people to use guns.

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This man lives in Spain, and has no legitimate impact on legislation there or in the United

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States.

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This is something that Alex can disagree with him about, but I struggle to see how this

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is meaningful.

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But this is an instance where Alex is asking these baiting questions, and he got exactly

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the answer he was looking for.

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He doesn't respond to this with anger or even comment after Conrad answers, because it went

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perfectly.

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This guy who's running a microchip program to make chipping look cool wants you to have

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to get a chip to get a gun.

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Alex has something he can work with here.

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But things aren't really where they need to be, because this is still just a guy who runs

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a bar.

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We need to elevate him somehow, which will be the next major challenge Alex has to face

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in this presentation that he's putting forth in this interview.

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Why does it matter that this bar owner wants people to get chips?

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Well, I think the obvious thing is that the bar owner gets the famous people, the famous

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people get the chips, the famous people make regular people want to get the chips, et cetera.

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Right?

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That's the traditional...

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But what does it matter that the bar owner thinks that you should have a chip to get

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a gun?

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What impact does that have on any of this?

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Well, because then only famous people with chips will be able to get guns.

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Well, okay, fine.

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And then they'll hunt regular people, as we all know.

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The place of reality intersection is like, okay, you can grill him about the impact that

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making it look cool to get a chip has, I guess.

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But when you're trying to branch it off into all of these other microchip conspiracies,

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you kind of need to make him more than just a guy who runs a bar.

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You need to make him more important.

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Yeah, okay.

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All right.

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So he's got to be operative of some sort, right?

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So he's working on behalf of the globalists as an undercover bar Baja agent.

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Like John Tapper?

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Yeah.

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Taffer?

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Yeah.

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That's one of those.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah.

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Bar rescue?

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Yeah, I think that's what it's got to be.

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That's not an undercover bar.

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It's close.

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So, well, there's one way you can go with it.

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The other way that Alex decides to try and get at this problem is be like, you're working

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with VeriChip.

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VeriChip is the company that makes the chips.

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All right, all right, all right.

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So he's trying to put him-

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So there's a partnership.

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A higher, like one step higher up the ladder than he appears to be.

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Now, have you been in, I mean, obviously you've been in contact with VeriChip, the company.

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I imagine they're pretty excited to have someone prominent with this VIP connection to be promoting

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this.

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Yes, yes.

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We have a very good working relationship where I'm actually taking on a distributorship here

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in the Benelux.

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Did you know IBM really owns VeriChip?

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Like in a metaphorical sense?

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Okay.

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I haven't heard of that.

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VeriChip is owned by the Applied Digital Systems Corporation.

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Yeah, but the main creditors and some of the board controllers are IBM, which is interesting.

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I'm just saying a big technology.

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Right.

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Something like that.

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Okay, I wasn't aware of that.

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They're a major shareholder in ADS-X.

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Okay.

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Yeah, and at the same time, you know, the plant is in Beijing, China.

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Were you aware of that?

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Yes, yes.

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So there are also some shareholders in it.

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Now-

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What?

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So now we're starting to flesh out the answer as to why this guy matters.

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He's in cahoots with VeriChip, who's secretly owned by IBM and the Chinese.

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Now this isn't just a bar owner.

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It's a major player in an international conspiracy where his job is to make the chip look cool

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and hip for the kids.

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You can see how this is starting to take shape.

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The angles that Alex needs to pursue in order to make this interview what he wants it to

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be are being pursued.

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So VeriChip is owned, as Conrad is saying, by a company called Applied Digital Solutions.

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In 1999, ADS took out a loan from IBM's credit company, and as of 2003, owed them about $77

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million.

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However, in 2003, ADS sued IBM, quote, alleging interference of business relationships, racketeering,

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fraud, and conspiracy.

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They have a very sour relationship at this point.

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And a month before this episode was recorded, IBM demanded ADS repay their loan in full.

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Ooh, that's no good.

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Yeah.

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ADS was preparing to declare bankruptcy, but IBM decided they could just pay back $30 million

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of the loan, and then they would call it even, as opposed to them just going out of business.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You don't sue us.

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It's basically a settlement.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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IBM does not own the company.

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They just gave them a sizable loan, and then things fell apart as ADS became a less viable

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company when the dot com boom ended.

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That happens.

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Also, just because something is produced in China, that does not mean that the Chinese

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government is a part owner of the company.

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What I think is really interesting there is the dynamic that plays out over the course

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of this clip.

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Alex directly asserts that IBM owns VeriChip, but he wasn't expecting that Conrad would

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know the company that actually owns them.

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Because Conrad pushes back, Alex has to retreat from his firm assertion that IBM owns the

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company to some vague ideas about boards and creditors.

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This is how Alex is with all of his information.

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He has very strong statements that he makes about his shit, because he knows that most

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of the time, no one will actually know anything about what he's talking about.

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In those instances where he runs into someone with actual knowledge about the thing he's

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talking about, he crumbles, and he has to severely hedge the strong statements he started

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off with.

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And part of the reason he crumbles is because he's not looking to have an argument with

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Conrad at all.

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Alex is doing this interview and saying the things he's saying with a wink to the audience.

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He's playing to them, and Conrad's a prop in this.

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It doesn't serve anyone's interest to argue about whether or not IBM owns the company.

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I'm just trying to inject that for the audience.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think what is interesting is that Alex is kind of taken aback by him knowing about the

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computer chip.

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Which is why he has to equivocate, to change his stance.

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Which is like, if I'm Alex, that seems like a great judo move.

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Now you know too much.

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You know enough to now be even higher up in my conspiracy, because now you even know who

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owns the shit?

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Oh, okay.

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Well that realization might dawn on Alex at some point.

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But one of the other things that is, I think, a hallmark of Alex's strategy is he never

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pursues lines of thought consistently.

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So you have this approach here, where you have, ah, here's a conspiracy thread.

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The gun's chipping thing.

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You know?

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Sure, sure, sure, sure.

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Scary.

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And you have this other thread where it's like, he's working with very chip, so he's

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an important person.

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He's a big part of this conspiracy.

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But then there's also just like, you go off on sidetracks.

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You do like, instead of an A-A-A-A-A, B-B-B-B-B, C-C-C, you have an A-C-B-B-C-A.

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Jump all over the place.

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And the point of what you're doing is a little bit distorted.

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Yeah, I'd do that.

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Sure.

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I think a lot of people do.

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Eh.

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But here's Alex-

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I'm not in my interviews on purpose.

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Shifting gears.

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Sir, I know you're getting ready for a big night, if we can just spend maybe ten more

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minutes with you, because I've got some other interesting questions about this.

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Sure.

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Are you going to have any of your dancing girls implanted?

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Yes, I have a lot of people who are interested, several employees.

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What I wanted to do is I wanted to get some of our customers chipped, and we just, this

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past Monday, had three customers chipped, and next week on Tuesday I am scheduling another

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chipping session where I'll be chipping another six customers.

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I want to first build up our customer database of people who have been chipped, and then

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I'll start working on the employees.

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So Alex is asking if the dancing girls are getting chipped because he's fishing for things

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that would make getting chipped sexier to the general public.

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Also I'm not sure if there are dancing girls at this club, the way Alex is suggesting it.

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It's interesting to hear that he's chipped three customers and there are six lined up

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because that's pretty close to all of the customers that he would have sign up by the

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end of the year, according to an analysis done by researchers from the University of

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Wollongong.

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So it feels like, you know, it's a press tour.

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This is what this is.

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On the other hand though, it does make sense that he would know a lot about the chip, because

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this is 2004 and you're getting a chip implanted into your body, right?

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But now in 2024, the most famous rich person alive is telling people that I'm going to

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put computer chips inside of you, and people are understandably, for the most part, reasonably

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concerned.

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Right, that was 2004.

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The best I can tell is he's actually very interested in this technology and that's why

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he chose it to be the big PR stunt that they're doing to open this VIP lounge.

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Yeah, this is a personal thing that he is interested in.

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Also, he was in a Dutch boy band called the Baja Boys.

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I'm sorry, what?

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Yep.

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That's what he was.

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He was in a Dutch boy band, he was in a Dutch boy band, he's an American, he was in a Dutch

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boy band.

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Who runs a bar in Barcelona.

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Who runs a bar in Barcelona and was on Gran Hermano.

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Yep.

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Okay.

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That is correct.

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I love this guy.

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Quite alike.

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I think I do.

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Well, I have terrible news for you and that is that he just died recently.

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I was going to say, yeah, that sounds right.

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I feel terrible bringing that news to you.

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Fair enough.

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So, this idea about trying to make this more appealing, make the chip more appealing, continues

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on through the next question.

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Now, we've gotten your press release, we're going to be posting that, but I wanted to

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know what type of perks, because I was hearing that some of the stuff at your club, your

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fabulous club, is free, so you get just really primo perks if you get the chip.

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Right, exactly.

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If you install the chip, then you get free entrance.

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The entrance is normally 14 euros, but with the chip, you get free entrance, well, basically

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for the rest of your life.

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14 euros?

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For the time you've got the chip implanted.

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God dang it.

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Top end.

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I'll put a chip cost of 125 euros, but what we do is, the person would pay the 125 euros

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for the chip, and then they automatically receive 100 euro credit on their balance to

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be put towards purchases in the club.

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So this is another question meant to elicit the answer that shows that the chip is being

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made to look alluring.

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These are the carrots that are being dangled out in front of people, come on, don't you

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want to get the chip?

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You get all these perks at the club and the sexy dancing girls are doing it, it's so cool.

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It's pretty shocking to me that Conrad can't hear the sarcasm in Alex's voice when he calls

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his club fabulous.

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We've listened to enough of him that that sets off immediate alarms, but this guy just

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thinks he's doing a normal ass interview, not that the person he's talking to is trying

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to set him up.

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It's wild.

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It is.

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Ooh, your fabulous club.

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It is.

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It is.

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It's wonderful perks.

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Man, Alex, the worst thing that happened is he got famous.

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He got too famous.

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If Alex stayed within a certain range, there's almost, you can't see him coming.

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What in the world is, there's no way you see a guy like Alex coming if you're a bar owner

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in Barcelona who's just chipping people because you got super interested in the chip technology.

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And because you probably have a lot of interviews that you're doing because this is being covered

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by a lot of outlets.

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So you probably don't have time to even figure out who are all these people you're doing

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interviews with.

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Nope.

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Alex is going to slip through the cracks and he is going to fucking exploit it.

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And he can't do this stuff when he's famous.

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This is not something he can do now.

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If you know it's Alex, then you are fucked, you know?

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Whereas with this...

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His profile's too high to trick most people.

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Yeah, this is great.

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So, I mean, there's a certain amount of this that Conrad may be causing his own problem

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with the way Alex is going to present this.

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I'm reading some quotes, some of the things you said.

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Did you say, quote, the chip will prevail in the future because in those times the people

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will use it as cash and getting rid of the need for a credit card?

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I think that the first stage of microchipping of people has reached our country.

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This is being launched to appeal to young people in the first place?

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Yes, yes.

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That is a statement that I made, I believe, with a television program from Portugal.

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Yes, I believe wholeheartedly in the chip system.

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The biggest advantage of it is that you don't have to worry about carrying cards around

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with you.

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You don't have to worry about them getting lost, stolen, counterfeited.

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You got the chip with you at all times.

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You can't forget it and nobody can steal it from you.

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So that's an interesting statement.

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The chip will prevail, almost like it's a war.

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Well, I'm not a fighter.

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I'm not going to start any more wars.

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The world has enough wars, but I believe very strongly in the chip in that it perhaps could

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prevent wars.

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Would.

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Well, yeah.

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Oh, I think Alex was even surprised that this dude just said that chipping might prevent

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wars.

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Yeah.

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That's almost too perfect for what Alex is on the hunt for.

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This question is meant to further the idea that Conrad is in on the conspiracy to trick

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young people into getting chipped as part of something bigger and more sinister.

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That's pretty ridiculous and his answer is right in line with what he is.

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It's a guy who manages a bar who's made a plan to differentiate himself from the crowd

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with early adoption of what he thinks is going to be the next big tech thing.

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He's wrong, but Alex is very clearly asking about this quote to twist his words.

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When he says it's going to prevail, you get the sense that he means as a payment option

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or something that it's not like everyone is going to be using it, but it'll prevail in

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the market.

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Yeah.

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Alex is dancing around the subject because he has to, he has to know that if you were

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to just say, Hey, I think your VIP chip thing is a critical piece of the international satanic

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conspiracy to bring about the mark of the beast.

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Conrad might just end the interview.

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And then, then what do you do?

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You don't have any more fun quotes.

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Yeah.

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I find what I find so interesting about all of this market, the B shit and all of these

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ideas and all that stuff is ultimately like, if you go back and then kind of just trace

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the broad strokes, when cell phones became so ubiquitous that everyone had one, it made

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perfect sense to turn all of those like conveniences into just stuff that you could add on or make

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the phone do.

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Everybody already had a phone camera.

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Yeah.

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Put it on your phone, RFID chip, wallet, credit cards, everything.

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This is a great, this is a great example of that.

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Like let's look at the credit card aspect.

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Exactly.

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There are people who can use their phone to pay for stuff, but guess what?

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You can pay for stuff all kinds of other ways.

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Every other way.

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It doesn't become the only method that's accepted or even the predominant method.

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It's just something that is a convenience for some people.

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And you would imagine that if there were a point where chips became not ubiquitous, but

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broadly accepted by people, that's kind of the same way that it would be.

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You could put your shoulder up to the reader as opposed to putting your phone on it.

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Totally.

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That's the kind of thing I would see.

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And that you have your phone with you more often than, you know, like 98% of the time

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to the point where the metadata that your phone carries knows where you are at all times,

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you know.

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It's like everything that they've dreamt was inevitable being chipped to your body just

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became inevitable by virtue of how necessary your phone is.

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Yeah, convenience.

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Yeah.

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Alex asks this fella if there's a future that he sees where you would need a chip to get

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into the club.

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Sure.

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And his answer is strange.

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Do you ever see a point in ten years where if you don't have the chip, you can't get

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in the club?

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Yeah, definitely, definitely.

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The people are embracing this technology.

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I'm flooded with people who want the chip to be implanted.

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And the only thing that's slowing me down from getting more people having the chip implanted

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is that it has to be done in a clean, sterile environment.

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It has to be done by a medical professional.

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So I have to schedule that during the day.

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It can be done at night in the disco deck.

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But you're a perfect atmosphere.

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Those people are relaxed and happy.

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And I know Vera Chip has been opening offices here in the U.S. for implantation.

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So you're now part of the franchise, I guess.

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You're going to be a provider of this.

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So I guess you could put a little sterile office in there and have the folks line up.

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It's true.

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There's something that I've been working at.

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The caution that I have with that is that I would prefer to have my customers not...

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I prefer to have them sober.

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I don't want them to be out drinking.

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There are medical concerns if someone has consumed a great deal of alcohol.

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Sure.

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But his answer there when Alex asks about the future, that's marketing.

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That's not a sincere answer.

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And the demand at Barcelona Club is clearly lower than what he's telling Alex, saying

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he's flooded with requests.

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This is, in essence, a perfect setup for Alex, because in order for Konrad to pursue his

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goals of promoting the club, he has to make getting the chip seem like an appealing prospect,

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which is exactly what Alex is saying the globalists want him to do.

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But his actions pursuing his own wants are indistinguishable from what a globalist would

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do pursuing the wants that Alex is ascribing.

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Your personal profit motive leads to the exact same effect as a globalist evil secret plan.

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You're fucked.

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Therefore, you're hosed.

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There's nothing you can do.

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But foreseeing a future where you need to be chipped to enter a club would require you

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to imagine a future where clubs are not market-driven businesses anymore.

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When you're running a service business, you want to do whatever you can to limit the barriers

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to customers spending money at your establishment.

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That's why a lot of bars are lax on carting people, because if you're loose on that, you

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take a risk, but you expand your pool of potential customers.

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If we had a world where you needed to be chipped to get into a club, you're putting an unnecessary

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restriction on who can give you money.

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The only way a business would go for that is if they were forced by the government,

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which if that's the case, then getting into a bar is the least of your worries in that

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scenario.

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That's not going to happen unless everything has changed.

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Yeah, I appreciate the idea of like, okay, because it makes sense from the conspiracy

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point of view.

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The evil people aren't just going to be like, hey, everybody gets chipped now.

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You try and make it an attractive prospect.

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So there's a certain amount of this that does make sense.

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But boy, I just feel like, and this could just be personal, right?

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I just feel like that the globalist evil isn't going to choose the Baja club.

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Baja Beach Club?

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Yeah, the Baja Beach Club just seems like the wrong-

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But it's run by a guy who's on Spanish Big Brother.

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No, and I understand all the surrounding stuff, but I truly feel like this, again, this could

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just be my personal projection onto the globalist.

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I feel like the name would turn them off.

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I think the better way to do it would be get relevant pop stars.

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It would make sense.

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I feel like that would have a far bigger impact than the VIP section of a bar that most people

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are not going to go to.

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Hey, you know who's huge at this time?

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Kanye West.

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And I'm sure that'll never go wrong.

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No.

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Lil Wayne have a song about I'm an alien.

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Didn't he have a song like that?

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I have a chip.

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Why not?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Throw it down.

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Why aren't you?

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Even Alex brought up that the hip rapper, McG.

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No.

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No, not McG.

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Daddy.

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No, Big D.

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Donnie D.

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Donnie D.

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The Mac G rapper.

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Donnie D. The Mac G rapper.

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Yes.

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Very relevant performer.

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Ooh, love it.

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So I got to say, there are instances in this interview that Conrad makes unforced errors,

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and this would be a big one.

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Okay.

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Well, let's talk more about that.

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You know, an Army War College document said that we're all going to accept the chip in

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the next few decades.

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This is where a suspicion should be, very much.

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And thanks to the culture.

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And so you do see a time in the future where you won't even be able to get in without the

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chip.

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Yeah, I definitely see that.

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I see in the future that the chip will be embraced here in my club, but I believe also

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it can take the place of the passport.

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It could be a global passport that everyone on the planet would use this as a means of

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passport.

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The problem, the limiting factor is the chicken little shy falling syndrome, the same thing

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that we went through with Y2K, that everyone went into a panic and predicted that there

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was going to be a huge blackout and whatnot.

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No one predicted that.

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I think we've all seen that in the year 2000, the changeover from 1999 to 2000, there were

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very few problems.

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I don't know, though, sir, if you can really compare those two, but I mean, certainly I

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can see that young people are going to be more open-minded and are going to be embracing

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this, and I've seen that.

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Sorry, sorry.

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Oh, that's okay.

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Oh, that's okay.

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So, I've got to say, that was an unnecessary path for Conrad to go down, out of nowhere

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suggesting that the chip could be a new form of a passport, come on, man.

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I like that, yeah.

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That couldn't be more precisely what Alex would hope this guest would say.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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This is about as good as it gets for Alex, but we still don't really have a reason to

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feel like this is more than a guy who runs a bar saying this.

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We used to do standup, we've met a lot of people who run bars, and they often believe

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insane things.

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It's not that big of a deal that a guy who runs a bar thinks that microchips could replace

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passports.

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Alex has speculated that he's in bed with the IBM and the Chinese government, but that

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really hasn't been firmly established, so there's more work to do on that front.

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But he's got all he needs on this front.

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Yeah, I mean, as far as relative eccentricities, this bar owner makes the most sense out of

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99% of the ones that I've met in my time.

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Sure.

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Unfortunately, seemingly fairly naive, and happens to accidentally have found himself

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on Infowars.

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I mean, when he said it could be a new passport, it really feels like the words turgid and

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to mess it should be applied.

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You know what I'm saying?

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It's insane.

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This is all just audio, so I don't know, but I would imagine that Alex got up and is dancing

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around the room.

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Yeah, I mean, yeah.

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It's right.

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The desk goes just a little bit higher.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I hear a joke, you did not just say that.

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So now, in order to further this goal of making Conrad a more important cog within the machine,

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Alex brings him up again, this idea of like you're working with veri-chip.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Sir, now you seem to be really up on all this about how we're going to accept that this

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will be the global model.

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Did you have discussions with veri-chip?

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Is this their idea, or did you?

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It was all my idea.

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I take all the credit for it.

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But I mean, your comments about this being the global idea and things, did you discuss

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this with veri-chip, or was this their idea?

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Yeah, I have had in-depth discussions with Keith Bolton, the vice president of veri-chip.

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In fact, yesterday, he and I were discussing it at great length, and I discussed my belief

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in the system, and also gave a little advice to him that there needs to be a second source

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of verification, for example, a retina scan.

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Oh, on top of it, a double buck of the beast!

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Was Mr. Bolton talking about this global ID system?

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Correct, yes.

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He is a very, very strong believer in it.

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He informed me yesterday that they are in discussion, I believe, I don't want to quote

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directly, but I believe that they do have a signed contract with the Italian government

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to implement a test of the veri-chip system installed in government employees for verifying

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their identification.

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So here is where Alex is making his move to make Conrad more important than just a guy

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who runs a bar.

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Now we're getting the insinuation that veri-chip is trying to implement a world ID, and Conrad

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is more or less a front man working with them to make it look cool.

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It seems like he's a guy who believes in the potential of this technology, and of course

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veri-chip executives would want to pursue a gigantic business application of their tech,

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like for identification purposes.

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The idea of a global ID based on this is a bit too ambitious, but having a contract with

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a government agency to provide secure identification for employees, that seems doable.

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That seems basically what they're talking about.

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Conrad thinks Alex is a well-meaning person, asking him about whether or not a chip business

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executive believes that their business can expand.

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Which is an interesting question.

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But in reality, Alex is asking him, do you have any secret conspiracy conversations with

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veri-chip about how they're going to force me to get the mark of the beast?

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You kind of start to feel bad for him, because there's an earnestness with which he's answering

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these questions, and it's just being used against him.

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You see the trap, and you see what Alex is going to do with this.

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Right, right.

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I mean, the irony of it is that he's almost far too earnest to ever believe that he's

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got an ulterior motive.

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He's just so goddamn earnest, you know?

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He's just literally like, man, I'm really actually excited about this computer chip.

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Kind of makes you understand how we could come in second on Big Brother.

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Totally.

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Yeah, I get it.

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I mean, the idea that you could...

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This would be a great guy to use if you're an evil corporation, but I just don't feel

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like there's any way for you to get this guy to really be evil about something that he

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likes.

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Yeah, I think that if you were part of an evil conspiracy, it would be unwise to talk

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like this.

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Yeah, I don't think he would be able to do it.

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I don't think he's got it in him to lie to Alex about how great something is if he doesn't

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actually believe it's great.

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If he knows that it's going to hurt you, I don't think he could avoid saying, also, this

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is probably going to hurt you.

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Well, that may be, but he has some other ideas of ways this tech could be used, and Alex

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has got to just be like, whoo, I heard about special forces, I've been hearing the military

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is going to be getting this.

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That's where I see one of the largest advantages of this to be put in the military.

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I started in the military myself, and I know in the inductionization process, you run through

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before boot camp, and you get your shots, and I can see this very easily being implanted

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in each soldier as they run through the inductionization process, and instead of carrying dog tags,

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which was always a problem, that your dog tags would get lost or stolen, the chip never

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gets lost or stolen, and will always be with you.

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Well, I'll tell you what, sir, I know you're very busy, but I've just got four or five

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other questions, we've got a quick three minute break coming up, can we just do five minutes

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on the other side?

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Sure, Alex, no problem.

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Okay, thank you so much, we're talking to Conrad Chase, this is intriguing.

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This is intriguing, guys.

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What is happening?

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What is fucking happening?

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You can just feel Alex's excitement.

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I mean, yeah, it is, can I talk to you in five minutes, I've got to go handle something

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in the bathroom for about five minutes, it's going to take a little bit.

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I know you're super busy, but in my world, you are a big fish, and you're on the line

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very clearly, I've got to get as much content out of this as possible.

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Wow.

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So one of the things that I just feel bad about listening to this is that I don't think

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that at any point, really, Conrad understands the context of the conversation Alex is having,

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because Alex is like, he's saying this stuff, and Conrad's laughing along with him, and

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it's just, oh God.

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We're talking to Conrad Chase, the director of the Baja Beach Disco Bars in Europe, and

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he's now an Applied Digital Solutions Implantation Center, they're putting all that in, and planting

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the customers.

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Just a bar guy.

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During the break, I talked to you, Mr. Chase, you said you liked that, if you want to be

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a VIP, got to get the chip, that might be a slogan for you later, huh?

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I like that, Alex, it's very creative, I think I might borrow that if I may.

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Sure, go ahead, it's all yours.

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Now, what's the marriage ship, a PR line, it's there when you need it, or?

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Yeah, we're there when you need it.

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It just feels bad.

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It feels dirty.

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Okay, that one's not fair.

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That is not fair.

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I mean, it makes sense, as a...

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If you ask somebody to say the slogan for something...

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But the slogan makes sense.

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Come on.

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You know, having that information, if you're, let's say, an Alzheimer's patient who doesn't

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remember things when you show up at a hospital, it's there when you need it.

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Boom.

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Right.

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If you need to locate your dog because it's gone missing, boom, it's there.

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It's there when you need it.

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Yeah.

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No, no, no, I understand, but I mean, if you...

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There's no way that anybody could ask me to, like, hey, could you say a slogan for me,

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without me being like, any slogan anybody uses ever is evil, for some reason.

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Well, at the very least, you asking me to say it, you're up to something.

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Absolutely, absolutely.

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So, Alex, at this point, decides to cut the shit, and just lay out that...

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Okay, now it's time to...

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Well, they're almost done with the interview, so Alex is gonna be like, alright, plot twist.

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Prestige, yeah.

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But, Conrad, still, I don't think gets it.

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Okay.

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Now, let me just be honest with you here.

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You talk about checking little scenarios.

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I have to tell you that there is a global plan, as you said, you talked to Mr. Bolton,

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and the government's pushing this, and, you know, people talk about Germany, with the

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papers, please, and this tracking, and this controlling, and having it to buy and sell,

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you think that's coming?

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I mean, you know, you said the TV show Big Brother's coming out to interview you.

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I mean, this is Big Brother, and this is a total control grid that's being put in, and

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I see it being pushed as a VIP thing, so that the youth all go out and get it.

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What do you say to that?

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Yeah, yeah, I think it's a technology that's there, and I'm a strong believer in technology,

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and taking advantage of the technology at hand.

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There are a great deal of advantages in using the technology, and I think people need to

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get over their fears, and the, like I used before, the chicken little fears that...

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But you're an American.

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You're an American.

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The founding fathers said, don't trust government, limited size, have liberty, have a bill of

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rights, and you're saying you're not worried about that?

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But then we created one of the best governments in the world, one of the best governments

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which can be trusted, and I believe you need to trust your government, and you need to

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trust technology.

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It's there, we have to use it.

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So this guy doesn't seem to get that Alex is now just directly saying to him, I'm accusing

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you of doing PR work for the Mark of the Beast that will enslave all of the world's free

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people.

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He's too busy living in reality, where there's a concern about this kind of technology, but

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he takes the optimistic view, where businesses and government should be trusted, and the

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prospects of this technology outweigh its risks.

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He seems to think that that's the kind of conversation he's having, but he's very wrong.

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I think Conrad seems very naive, both in how he's dealing with this interview and how he's

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viewing the idea of this technology being used harmlessly for everyone's benefit.

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Alex is wrong on the other side of it, but that doesn't mean that I agree with Conrad

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either.

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I think that he's maybe underestimating some things.

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We were all so naive back then.

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I think one of the big challenges that we all face now is that we have this kind of

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idea of, I generally know when most people are lying, because there's a lot of lying

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going on.

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You look at the TV, you look at the Fox News, you look at the shows for media, you see a

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lot of liars, and you think, I think I have a handle on when people are lying to me.

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But that's the scariest part, because that's when you get lied to, because you don't know

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every time.

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But because you're confident that you can catch it, you feel like you're good.

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I appreciate that this guy is just like, I'm going to bluff my way through it.

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And I'm going, well, at the very least, he's saying, I'm going to believe the best in everything.

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I'm going to believe the best in this technology.

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It's never going to be used for harm or in ways that are hurtful to people.

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I'm going to believe the best in this guy who's so nice enough to ask me to come on

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his radio show.

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He's such a nice guy.

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It's very, it's a better headspace, but you can see how-

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I think you should trust your government.

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I think you should trust it.

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If he's selling globalism as evil, and he's accused of being evil, and his response is

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just like, yeah, I think the technology is really going to make things better.

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Yeah, I think there's a lot of the benefits outweigh the negatives, and hey, you can't

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always distrust everything.

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If the devil can pull that trick, now that's some solid stuff, where it's like, hey, man,

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I get what you're saying.

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I am the devil.

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But what if it's like 51% better than the God?

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How about that?

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Did you think about that?

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Maybe it's even, but we got 1% better.

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So Alex remembers at this point that he said he was in the military.

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Yes.

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And so now- Which military?

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He was in Dutch boy band- No.

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Dutch boy band?

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What was his core?

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Was it called the military?

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Hey, let me ask you a question.

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What did you do in the military?

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I'm just curious.

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I was in telecommunications.

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Oh, telecommunications.

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Computer chips?

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Yes, I was.

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Yeah.

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Did you do NSA work?

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Excuse me?

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What type of work did you do?

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Well, in communications, it was, I can't really get into it because it was not top secret,

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but secret classified information.

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I figured that.

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It was a form of combat communications.

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So now Alex has asked that question and he has decided that the answer to yes, the NSA

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is yes.

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So he just decided that based on that answer, he's admitted basically that he was working

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for the NSA.

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So now, not only is he in bed with these very chip people who are owned by IBM and the Chinese

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government, he is now also an operative of the National Security Agency.

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So we have made him important.

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He is no longer just a bar owner.

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He said all this pretty wild stuff about his belief in chip technology.

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This is perfect for Alex.

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It does feel as though we're at the Coliseum and they just toss somebody in with a lion

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and that person was like, I've never seen a lion before.

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It starts petting him.

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I'm a cat lover.

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And then starts pouring like sauces on them, just like, oh, I bet this lion will never

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eat me.

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Like this is absurd.

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So Alex is wrapping things up and he's like, hey, I think that you should look into these

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companies that you work with.

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What do you mean?

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He's evil, right?

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Well, I have to be honest with you.

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The road to hell is paved with good intentions and I think you need to investigate very chip

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and IBM and you need to look at applied digital and you need to look at the plant they built

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in China that you said you were aware of and I think it's very scary for you to say no

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chip.

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You won't be able to get in the club and, you know, that might be going or having chips

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in our hands to have guns or sure, well, I would never enforce it that that stringently

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that you cannot enter my club without the chip.

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Definitely not.

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Uh, I do feel that that is a, that is an excellent idea.

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Uh, having that for, uh, weapons control, uh, earlier, earlier you said though, that's

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where it's all going, that when everybody starts accepting it, it's going to go to that.

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You said that earlier.

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I believe it will.

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I definitely believe it will.

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When the first, uh, when the first automobiles came out, people thought that there was no

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need for a vehicle that would travel at such quote unquote breakneck speed.

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You know, that's what the army war college says.

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They say that similar thing that, wow, you, you are an interesting fellow.

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Oh my God.

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I really appreciate your honesty.

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Jesus Christ.

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So Conrad's not doing a good job of making his point about whether or not you should

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need a chip to get into the club.

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It does kind of seem like he's saying yes and no to that simultaneously, but I think

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he means that he would not enforce that now, but can envision a world where it's the normal

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means of identification off in the future.

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It's not actually contradictory, but it's not being expressed well, but you can hear

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Alex expanding his implication that Conrad is working with the government saying that

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his words are mirroring the army war college Alex saying, you're an interesting fellow.

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I appreciate your honesty.

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It can be translated to you naive idiot.

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I'm going to fuck you over so hard with this.

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Yeah.

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It's amazing.

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Yeah.

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Such a giddiness and Alex's voice music.

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You are an interesting fellow.

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Yeah.

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That is the bless your heart of, uh, yeah.

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Wow.

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So the interview ends and I would say that Alex is just like, he's doing great.

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Yeah.

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I mean he should be smoking.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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This is a post-coital interview right now.

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Yeah.

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You've got your microchip now and uh, I guess you're part of the elite VIP circle now.

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I'm a, I'm a, I'm, I'm the first person on the planet to have used it in a nightclub.

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Well that's, that's very interesting and uh, you know, I hope that you will look down into

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your heart and your soul and get some discernment and look at the bigger picture of the global

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ID system that you discussed and ask yourself, is a global government a good idea?

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I mean everybody wants to rule the world and who are these people that are going to rule

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the world and how will they use these ships to do it?

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Sure.

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There is no negative aspect whatsoever with a chip.

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Only positive.

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Resistance is futile.

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You will take the chip.

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One of the IP, one of the VIP, get the chip.

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Hey, listen, Conrad Chase, thanks for coming on the show.

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Take care.

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Thank you Alex.

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Bye.

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Have fun.

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That guy was reading right off a government script ladies and gentlemen.

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No he wasn't.

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I don't know if Barrett Chip put all these ideas in his head or if he came from the inside.

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It is secret work, but tell it, Jerry.

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So you may notice the second the interview ends, Alex goes on the attack.

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Secret work?

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Yeah, it's mysterious why he didn't grill this guy about how he was reading from a government

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script while the interview was going.

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I have a strong suspicion it was because Alex could tell this guy was a little bit of a

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salesman and he was promoting his club, but also what seems to be like a sincere belief

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in the potential of chip technology.

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He has this, he's just a person who believes that.

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He's the new early adopter.

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There was so much more to gain from that interaction by not blowing up on this guy and revealing

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your true intentions in the conversation, which is exactly what Alex did.

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That said, because I understand the world this interview took place in, I feel terrible

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for Conrad.

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In the real world, this was kind of a boring interview with a guy who runs a bar and believes

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in the potential of microchip technology.

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But in Info Wars world, this was a damning revelation of a cocky NSA hatchet man chipping

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VIPs at his club to make it cool so kids want to get it to bring in the one world government

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to the mark of the beast.

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He almost couldn't have answered a number of those questions better for Alex's purposes.

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And it's all just, you just see, it's like you see a vase dropping and you know you can't

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stop it.

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There's nothing to do.

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And it's just, oh no, this is going to crash.

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It is really interesting sometimes to watch people speak what they think is the same language.

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You know, like all of you, how is it, it is so interesting that people can have a conversation

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that ostensibly appears from the outside to make sense and yet be speaking completely

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different languages.

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And that's kind of one of the reasons why when I was listening to this initially, I

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was like, this interview is just kind of boring.

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But I think based on the way Alex behaves after the interview, this is an important

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interview for him.

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This is like landmark stuff.

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It is, it is like, if you can imagine, like I imagine going to an alien planet a billion

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light years away, you land on there and you can talk to everyone and it sounds like you're

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having a perfectly normal conversation in every possible way.

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And yet everything that happens is completely wrong.

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And it's like, no, it is just a complete coincidence that the sounds they're making are similar

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to the ones that you think are words.

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Now here's the real question.

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If Conrad had had a babble fish in his ear, would he been able to translate this?

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That's a good question.

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Because it's the same language technically.

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Right, right, right.

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I don't think it would work.

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Does the babble fish understand implied meaning?

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You're the Adams guy, I don't know.

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It has to include idioms.

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Probably.

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We'll see.

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But does it include a smug sarcasm and fake politeness?

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From the point of view of someone confident in their absolute nonsensical worldview, yeah.

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So as the interview has come to an end, Alex decides, man, I'm going to congratulate the

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shit out of myself for this.

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Yeah, well, I was going to pat myself on the back.

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Just an absolutely incredible interview.

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And I told you, year after year, they're going to have it as a status symbol to get in certain

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bars, to get in amusement parks, and then to do anything to travel, you're going to

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have to have it.

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And here is one of the minions at an implantation center.

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They're setting up at the bar.

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They've already implanted a bunch of the makings.

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The CEO telling Mr. Chase, oh, yes, we're going to have this global ID and this is going

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to be the system and everybody's going to have this.

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And I said, oh, so in a few years to get in the club, you'll have to have the chip.

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And he said, oh, yes, I see that happening.

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Oh, yes, it's wonderful.

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Oh, this will stop war.

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Oh, globally, everyone having the chip.

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That's the plan.

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That's what the military said in 2000.

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When you watch the nightly news, oh, it's for the old people, the young people, the

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foreigners, the criminals.

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Wait, what?

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Talked about the Italian government starting to sign up to get it, to put it in their government

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workers.

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See, the police are going to have to do it first.

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And then they'll say, hey, if I have to do it, you got to do it.

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Uh, cops, you better say no.

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Is that how it works?

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Special forces has been told they're about to get the chip.

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This is the new America.

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This is the new world, our new global system.

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And I mentioned to him, well, you know, the Chinese own part of it and they have the factory

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over in China.

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He goes, oh, yes, yes.

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The factory in Beijing.

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Oh, yes.

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Oh, yes.

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The factory.

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Oh, the factory.

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And they use applied digital as the front.

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IBM really owns the company, owns the majority of it, owns the debt on it because IBM doesn't

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want to run around saying, take the chip global ID.

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So they, of course it was IB because IBM has some problems there, uh, deep blue right around

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their biggest contracts with the Nazis, you may have heard of them and you might've heard

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of them.

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So that's why IBM can't do this.

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We're doing IBM Nazis, eh?

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Yeah, apparently.

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All right.

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So there's an interesting dynamic here because Alex isn't really lying that much about what

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happened in the interview.

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Sure.

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He's fudging a bunch of the details and adding his own spin onto everything.

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But for the most part, he's repeating things that were said in the interview.

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Yeah.

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Like for instance, he says that the CEO of VeriChip said that there was going to be a

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world ID and that's not really totally accurate, but also not made up.

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Right.

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Conrad said that he spoke with the vice president of VeriChip and they both thought it had an

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application as a passport replacement.

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The issue here is a disconnect in what's being discussed.

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Conrad and this VIP are promoting their businesses.

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They believe that there's a massive potential for this technology to be used in all kinds

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of ways, which would further their bottom lines and make them a bunch of money.

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They aren't announcing a new world order plot to chip everyone starting with having a couple

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people in Barcelona make it look cool.

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But that's what Alex is going with.

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They're announcing this is their plan for a world ID as opposed to their business would

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make a lot of money if they were able to do that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think that's what I'm coming back to.

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All right.

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I don't think with our big bads being Klaus Schwab and I mean Soros isn't even up there

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anymore.

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Right?

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No, he comes up periodically.

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Okay.

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Especially with the DAs and stuff.

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You're right.

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You're right.

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So Soros is back there.

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He's diminished, but he's ascendant.

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Right.

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But here's what I'm saying.

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If the plan people are on the Eat the Bugs tip, they're not on the Baja Beach Club tip.

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You don't know that.

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You can't do both.

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But you heard those songs, those Klaus Schwab parody songs.

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You could see that playing at a Baja Beach Club.

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See people shaking their ass to, you will eat the bugs.

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It's very easy to imagine.

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Now the kids are going to find that cool.

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Yeah.

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That is what's going to get the kids going.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Those are the adopted kids right there.

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So are you afraid of microchips?

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Oh, obviously.

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I'm going to make you a little more afraid of them.

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Okay.

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And by the way, yesterday we posted a new microchip that is a swastika and the company

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is called Matrix.

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It's a corral group owned company.

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I went ahead and went to their website and researched their corporate filings and one

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of the heads of the car law group heads up Matrix, a car law group company.

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It's a chip that's a swastika and it's called, the company's called Matrix.

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I mean, and it's owned by the car law group and was founded by members of the national

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security agency.

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And I just knew in the last segment with this bar manager that he would have some NSA work

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in his past.

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And when I asked, just what he did, my goodness, what a surprise.

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He didn't say that.

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He did not say that.

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He did not say that.

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He said it wasn't even, he said it wasn't top secret, but I still shouldn't be talking

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about it.

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Yeah.

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Various methods for like battlefield communication.

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Obviously you wouldn't be able to reveal a lot of that information.

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It's not phones anymore.

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That's what I can reveal.

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Yeah.

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So Alex is lying about Conrad's military history.

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We played that clip earlier, but all Conrad said that he was, he was in communications.

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It was Alex that accused him of working for the NSA, but that was never established.

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But apparently it's fact now and see one of the reasons that I think that this is a really

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valuable thing to go over is you can see the way that the information in the interview

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is being recontextualized for Alex's purposes immediately.

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So they didn't get into specifics, but Conrad was in the U S army signal cord, not the NSA.

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He was also, like I said, a contestant on grand Hermano and was in the Dutch bow event

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called the Baja boys, but no sign he was in the NSA.

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Okay.

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Alex is telling the audience that because it helps make this narrative work, that this

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guy was essentially speaking for the government, popularizing their plans to make everyone

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get chipped.

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This matrix microchip thing is about a company called matrix, but it's spelled with a C S

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trip.

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There are a couple of people on the board with ties to the Carlyle group.

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So Alex has just decided to report that they're a subsidiary of the Carlyle group because

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why not?

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Yeah.

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I went to look at the info wars article about this to find a picture of the chip and that

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kind of looks like a swastika, but I think Alex might be making more out of this than

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is merited.

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That being said, as it turns out around this time, some researchers were finding that the

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swastika shape worked really well.

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Oh my God.

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I swear to you.

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I was laughing my ass off because I was imagining a world where everybody's like, fuck swastikas

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make the best computer chips.

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I'm not sure if we have asked, but people were saying that it was very good around this

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time.

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According to an article from the world Jewish Congress and optical engineer at Southampton

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university had found that the symbol has quote at the perfect geometry for twisting light

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in a way that can encode information.

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God damn it.

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That's too funny.

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Yeah.

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It's too funny.

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So it may well be that this matrix chip had some passing similarity to a swastika for

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that reason, but it's not actually a swastika.

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Um, but yeah, that is, it is an unfortunate reality that in order for it to encode information,

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new bad light of all of all of all the things that a thousand years from now, some historian

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would have to say the idea that one of them is like Nazis put technology back a couple

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a couple of decades because people just couldn't get over the fact that swastikas worked so

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well.

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I mean, I might, that's amazing.

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I might be, you know, uh, I'm not saying that this is true.

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I'm just saying that theoretically that is hilarious.

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What I'm here to say is that I think that the chip itself looks a bit more like a throwing

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star.

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Okay.

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And uh, yeah, that's great.

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Um, that's fine.

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But anyway, Alex comes back from break and he is just so thrilled with him.

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Yeah.

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Obviously hands down.

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The other view I just did with the director of the Baja beach disco bars, big 2,500 palatial

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clubs with a half naked dance and girls at the big resorts in the U S that has to be

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the most revealing, wicked interview we've ever done.

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Oh, I talked to the CEO where we'll all be getting our global identification chip to

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have a gun.

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You'll have the chip.

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Oh, the troops all need the chip.

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If you want to be a VIP in our club, you got to have the chip.

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Oh, I see a time in the future when you'll have to have the chip to come in our club.

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Oh, Oh, it's such a VIP thing to have the tracker chip.

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We're going to post that interview at prison planet.com and info wars.com by tomorrow.

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And I'm begging our listeners that do the transcripts, do a transcript of this interview

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immediately.

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Tens of millions of people will then read it.

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Oh my God.

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We can post it on the website, help us get the word out.

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Uh, it's just absolutely incredible that interview because I sat there sucking him in, agreeing

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with him.

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No, she just came right out with it.

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I mean, they're going to, all of you are going to take the chip government to travel, truly

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insane to buy and sell your microchip in your hand.

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So Alex is right that he managed to do an interview that's illustrated that a guy who

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runs a bar in Barcelona is in favor of all of these applications for microchip technology.

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What he actually failed to do is show that this is a plan that anyone has or that this

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bar owner believing this means anything.

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It's a victory for Alex, but from my vantage point, it seems like a hollow victory.

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He has all the appearances of a big gotcha, but I don't think any of it matters.

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This bar got a few people to get an RFID chips voluntarily for their VIP program.

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And then they abandoned the program a few years later.

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It didn't make getting chips into the coolest thing ever and the kids aren't all secretly

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getting chips behind their parents' backs.

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Alex said that was going to happen conservatively within four years.

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That would have been 2008.

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Yeah.

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Instead we got Obama.

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True.

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Very different.

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Alex succeeded in tricking a bar owner into saying exactly the things he needed someone

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to say, but everything else around this he's super wrong about.

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And it's just, I don't know.

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Here's what I'm getting from this.

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It's hollow.

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Here's what I'm getting from this.

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I am getting that moderation is best, you know, like here's what's going on.

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I feel like this is a great way to engage with having done a boring interview.

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You know?

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Like, listen, I actually think it's kind of interesting that he's got a VIP room that's

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also chipped.

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That's kind of interesting.

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That's good.

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That's a little fun.

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You know?

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Fine.

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Whatever.

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But to elevate it into like, Oh, this is a secret.

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You know, that's more fun.

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That's more exciting.

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Yes.

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I get it.

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That's great for radio.

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Moderation.

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Keep it here.

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Yeah.

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Keep it there.

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When you get addicted to this type of shit, then we get where we are now.

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You want to go like one standard derivation over, not two.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, man.

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It's just that escalation problem.

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But I also think that what you're describing goes, it cuts both ways.

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Sure.

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Because I think that he, Conrad, was a little bit too into a lot of this technology.

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He was a little bit too into it.

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I agree.

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I agree with you very strongly.

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And Alex is a little too into his Mark of the Beast conspiracies.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Moderation is the place in between those two.

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Moderation in all things.

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Yeah.

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It's just, it's just how often that continually turns out to be true is very frustrating.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So another thing I'd like to moderate is Alex's impressions.

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Oh no.

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Because he's going to do a lot of impressions of Conrad.

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Oh no.

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In a short version?

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Yeah.

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We need to trust our government.

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We need to, we need to do what they say.

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We need to love them.

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I mean, did you hear all that?

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It was like listening to a demon, a simpering, a, you know, a sweet mouth.

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It's so, and I go, Oh, you, you're in the military.

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Oh yes, I was in the military and you were in some classified, was it communications?

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And I knew that.

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Well, I can't talk about it.

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You know, Oh, were you in the NSA?

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Well, I can't talk about it.

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How did I, how did I know that?

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That wasn't the answer to the NSA question.

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Well, you decided it in effect, but it wasn't the answer to the NSA question.

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But Alex has just decided that it was because it makes it seem more like the answer is yes,

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which is what Alex has decided no matter what.

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Yeah.

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Oh God.

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How did I know that?

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See again, moderation, that's too far.

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You don't know that.

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You could have said, man, that's an interesting guess.

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Maybe that's true that it's still not.

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And it's not an interesting guess.

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Well, he didn't, he, Alex also asked him if he's in the NSA, he said he didn't understand

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the question.

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It was said what Alex didn't rephrase that question or reframe that question because

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he didn't actually want an answer to that.

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He wanted to have asked this guy, this question, it's for the audience.

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It's a wink to the audience.

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It's like, Hey, I'm accusing this guy.

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Absolutely.

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And you stick there.

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You don't go that extra step to saying, actually I can see the future.

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I am a God-touched genius who is capable of, no, no, no, no, he's a God-touched...

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There's going to be more of that.

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So Alex gets back to the subject of the chip mobile.

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I like that though.

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And I'm going to cover this, then we'll get to your calls, is from infowars.com directly

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from adsx.com or Apply Digital Solutions stock website.

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And embedded microchip seller VeriChip announces chip mobile.

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It's on the move.

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Watch for the chip mobile coming to your town.

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Hey kids, so much for the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile.

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The B system is here and VeriChip has announced that the chip mobile is on the move.

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That's a quote.

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It looks like a swastika.

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That's a different chip.

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That looks like a swastika.

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The chip mobile looks like a...

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Oh man.

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Too funny.

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So how much of that do you think was a quote?

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I think VeriChip's promotional material had, Hey, the mark of the B system is here.

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The mark of the beast is coming to your town.

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Oh God.

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I mean, man, if the devil is doing the mark of the beast that way, that's the best way

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to do it.

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Cause I'm not seeing it coming.

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I'm not seeing the devil coming that way.

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Cue me out on this.

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Okay.

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Let's pretend that the mark of the beast demon devil system was this chip mobile.

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You fucking whiffed, devil.

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What a terrible plan.

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That didn't work.

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There is a certain amount of somebody needs to be able to get pushed back on the devil.

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If the devil's played as the chip mobile, that means that there aren't enough people

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around the devil to be like, that's a shit plan.

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Yeah.

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You need to fire your board or whatever because bad ideas are coming through and it's not

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working.

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All you, all you accomplished is getting some senior citizens chip so they could have better

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access to healthcare.

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They're coming to me soon.

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Evil.

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Oh boy.

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So Alex does get back to the Swastika microchip story, the Matrix company.

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And you know, you're talking about him knowing things in advance.

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He kind of screams about that a little bit here.

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Well, this company was called the Matrix and my wife had posted it on Infowars.

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Last night I got online with a large glass of ice water for several hours and began researching

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the Matrix.

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What?

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And it didn't take long.

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Of course, before I went to it, I knew who it would be.

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And sure enough, it was the national security agency because when the chip is a Swastika

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and the name of the company is the Matrix, I already knew because I know the enemy.

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I understand their control grid.

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I've already followed enough of their roadmap.

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I know what the next piece is, but I never count on that.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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I knew IBM owned applied digital before I went to their corporate minutes because they're

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behind it all.

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I mean, all of it.

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I knew that it would be manufactured by the communist Chinese military and certainly it

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was.

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Again, I'm not bragging.

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This is the unified field theory of geopolitics and once you know it, it's there.

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So yeah, what Alex knew before looking up anything was that he was going to find a way

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to twist whatever he found into being part of his larger conspiracies.

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It just so happened that one of the members of the board of Matrix, Michael Arneson, had

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worked for the NSA from 1979 to 1999.

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Alex knew that there was a good bet that someone on the board would have a history with the

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government agency, so he knew that he was going to be able to hinge a conspiracy on

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that.

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A testament to how shallowly he actually looked into any of this is if he dug a little deeper,

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he would have found that Matrix got funding from DARPA, which would have been a much more

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direct conspiracy.

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Yeah, that's great.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I wouldn't go for that.

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Too hard.

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The same is true for the claim that he knew that IBM owned advanced digital solutions

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before he looked it up.

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He didn't know that, but he could be pretty sure that there would be some piece of investment

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or some association of a board member that he could twist into his narrative.

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IBM didn't own ADS, but they did formerly have a loan going, so that's confirmation

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of the thing that Alex went into this research knowing he'd find.

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He knew he would find something he could work with.

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If Alex had looked into ADS and found that Apple had given them a loan, then guess what?

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He would have known that going in.

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Or if one of the big banks that are so evil had given them a loan, Alex would have known

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that from the jump.

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This is a pretty blatant example of confirmation bias in action.

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Alex has this unified field theory of geopolitics, which is basically just his way of saying

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his narrative of reality, the conspiracy.

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Everything he finds must comport to that narrative, so when he sits down to search out information,

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it magically always does.

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The claim that Matrix is a Carlyle Group subsidiary is a good example.

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Alex is basing that on the fact that there are two members of the board at Matrix that

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have ties to Carlyle.

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One of them, Brooke Coburn, was at the time a managing director at Carlyle, and the other

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one, Mark Ein, worked there prior to 1999.

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But two members of the board also have ties to another company called LCC International.

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One of them, Puyish Sota, was the CEO of LCC and also the CEO of Matrix, and Mark Ein also

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worked at LCC.

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So why isn't Matrix an LCC subsidiary?

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The reason is because the audience has no idea who LCC is, whereas they've been primed

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with plenty of talk about the Carlyle Group due to its association with the Bush administration.

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So this is the angle that you go.

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Also, the company isn't the Matrix, it's just Matrix.

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It stands for Microwave Array Technology for Reconfigurable Integrated Circuits.

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The Matrix sounds cooler for the audience, though, so that's what it is.

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It's the Matrix.

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So yeah, I don't know, I just find this little, this notion that like, I already knew when

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I went in.

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I already knew all this ahead of time, because I know the devil's plans.

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It's just, it's a little rough.

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Yeah, it is so much of a like, I don't know, what would I call it?

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It's not hindsight is 20-20-20.

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I think the lesson or something to be learned from Alex is just like, when Alex was doing

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this, there is something that he's pointing to that is actually so valuable that we needed

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to address, which is that there are too many people who are associated with too many companies,

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you know what I mean?

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Oh sure, revolving door type shit.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then they're all associated with the government.

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Like that is a serious problem.

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Alex is fucking it up.

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Yeah, no, yeah, as is the case whenever he's adjacent to a decent point, he ruins the actual

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criticism.

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But if he was what people attributed him to be at that time, that ability to point at

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the real problem, you know, while being bombastic and entertaining, is an effective tool that

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other people weren't using.

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Right, but he's not pointing at the real problem.

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But he's not pointing at the real problem.

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He's using the sort of optics of the real problem in order to be like, ah ha ha, and

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this is the devil's plan to microchip everyone.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It is not about...

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Now, if you are the devil, right, you see a spot, you see a job opening that everybody

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kind of needs, which is somebody to be bombastic and to tell the truth, and you put in there

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somebody who is almost all of those things.

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Nah, disagree.

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Yeah, the devil's smart.

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No, Alex is just not.

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I think Alex works for the devil.

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So he knows all this stuff ahead of time.

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Yes.

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Not because he works for the devil, and the devil's given him precognitive abilities.

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Fair enough.

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Not because of that.

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Okay.

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But because he's a detective.

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And of course, it's called the matrix, just because they want to take good care of you

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always.

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And again, I'm not bragging when I say I know what I'm going to read before I see it.

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But if you study this stuff and you know their game plan, well, it's like a cop who's been

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hunting after a serial killer for 20 years.

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The serial killers killed 40 people.

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They found these dead women, they found these dead men, whatever.

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And the cop has seen the serial killers work so many times when they get the call, and

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before he even walks into the woods to another scene, he knows what he's going to see.

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I mean, that's really it.

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So here I am every day, I open the brushes, you know, the brush and walk into the woods

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and smell the rotten flesh, and well, I'm going to see their handiwork again, aren't

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I?

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Same people, same operation, same wickedness.

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And again, that's my analogy of understanding these people.

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Flaunting it in your face, throwing it in your face, the destruction of this country

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and bringing in the new world order.

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If Alex were like a detective and he was tracking down serial killers, he would see a calling

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card for a serial killer and then he would misinterpret it to be similar to another fake

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serial killer's calling card or something like that.

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I mean, this is just ridiculous.

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He's no Batman.

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Or it's the government of China.

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Any serial killer's calling card is actually the government of China, Communist China,

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China-ing.

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Yeah.

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And Alex, he's just thrilled with this interview he did.

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There's a lot of neighbor-gazing.

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He does seem to be very thrilled with himself.

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There's so much self-congratulation.

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He seems very happy.

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And yes, tomorrow, in one of the three hours, I'm not sure which one yet, I will re-air

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the most fright and disgusting, slimy interview I have ever done.

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We will re-air the interview with the entity that we had on, and I say that in a serious

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fashion, I will re-air the interview with the entity that we spoke with in the last

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hour, the microchip government creature, who was telling us how wonderful it is and how

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we'll all need the chip to come in his club and how we'll all have our global chip.

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And he spoke with the same tongue, the same words as the others from this group.

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So if you listen carefully to this interview, it is the most, I had goosebumps while this

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guy was talking.

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To be talking to a creature like this is very, very serious.

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Dehumanizing there.

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Pretty explicit.

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I mean, we have learned that if you want Alex to treat you nice, just be a globalist.

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Say the things you want him to...

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No, you have to...

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If you want him to be nice to you, you have to be being used by him in some way.

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Right, right, right, right.

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That's the trick.

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Act like a naive globalist, and Alex will be nice to you.

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Yeah.

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That's interesting.

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If he thinks he can exploit you by being nice, you're going to get some nice treatment.

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Exploit Alex via being exploited by Alex.

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I do believe he had goosebumps during it, but it was more like, I'm going to use this,

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this is going to be so good.

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I'm going to say this is a creature.

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I'm going to have a bumper forever.

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So most of the rest of the show is taking calls.

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Sure.

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About how great he is?

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You bet.

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Yeah.

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Well, and I think that Alex has such a...

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He's so thrilled about this interview that he wants to riff with people about it.

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Yeah, of course.

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He wants to be like, do you hear when he says this?

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I want to bask in this as much as possible.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So he takes a call and this lady brings up, hey, this isn't that safe.

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Someone could kill you and take your chip.

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Ooh.

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And so Alex...

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You are helping.

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Alex does some impressions also.

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Yes, Anne.

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The thing I was wondering as I was listening to that interview, they're pushing...

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I'm opposed to this, just as an outrage as much as you are, but when they say there's

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no drawback, on an implanted chip like that, couldn't you kill someone and take the chip

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or someone take the chip out to steal it?

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Well, that's it, of course, for high security federal employees.

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Well, yeah.

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Same is true of your kidneys.

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The time government's about to make their employees, according to him, take it.

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And you heard this global ID situation.

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Think of all the crimes this government's committed.

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Of course it's insane.

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Of course it's bad.

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That's why he was saying, resistance is futile.

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It's wonderful.

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Everyone will take it.

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You said that.

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They're going to take it.

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I mean, did you hear just the wickedness?

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Oh, I did.

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Yes, I did.

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Did you?

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Did you?

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It's so good.

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Just take your chip.

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But all I'm saying, I still...

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I expect you to go.

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When we came to your planet, we came here to help you.

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It's for them to keep track of all of us, but I still think, what I'm saying, I still

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think there's ways to get around it.

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Well, I'm not going to take it, and most people are against it.

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They just get up on the news and act like everybody likes it.

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This is all psychology.

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It's wonderful.

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Everyone loves it.

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You need to take it.

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There have been polls out.

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90 plus percent of people hate it.

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But the more they go, everyone loves it.

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All the stars love it.

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All the VIPs love it.

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The young people, and that's what they admit they're targeting, are going to go, yeah,

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it's cool.

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It's counterculture.

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I want it.

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I want it.

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Now.

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And they repeat it enough, then the people begin to believe.

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That's not bad.

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Everybody's for it.

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You're the kook.

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But we're the majority.

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We're the majority.

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A lot of voices.

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Yeah, that's the type of voice actor.

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Number one voice actor.

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I was going to say.

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But Obama ruined his career.

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I was going to say.

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They all know this.

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That actually is pretty solid.

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No, it's not.

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I would buy that on a radio.

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It's trash.

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For like a cereal.

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Local ad.

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Not a national.

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Okay, I'm not giving him national.

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That's not a syndicated ad.

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No, he's not national.

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That's a local cereal brand.

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That is a local cereal ad, yes.

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So yeah, I think this is a lot of fun they're having.

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I think somebody could kill you and take the chip.

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Good point.

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I agree, ma'am.

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I agree.

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Next point.

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Where is this energy in the present day being directed towards Elon Musk?

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I don't know.

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That's what you really need to ask yourself, as you see the intensity of Alex's feelings

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about anything involving chips.

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Yeah, it does lay bare truly, living in 2024, how much of our lives we thought people cared

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about behavior when in reality it was just who was doing it.

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Or they cared about the thing as opposed to, yeah.

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You and I, I thought this whole time, I was like, doing a thing is the problem.

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And ha ha, no, the problem is who is doing the thing.

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It's that simple for people?

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It apparently is.

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Amazing.

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And I think that, you know, if you're not cognizant of it, you can fall into those traps

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yourself.

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I suppose.

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Well, yeah, I mean, if you think you know when everybody's lying to you, you're going

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to get lied to and yeah, you believe it, yeah.

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So Alex wants, obviously, these calls to be about this bombshell interview that he just

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did.

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Right, right, right.

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But unfortunately, some of them aren't.

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Oh, no.

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And some of them might be a bit troubling.

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Alex, you're familiar that last year about this time through your listeners on your show,

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I was thrown into, well, I was thrown, because I believed all the things that you claimed

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because I couldn't get through them.

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Stay focused.

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Come on, man.

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I was thrown into the nuthouse because I was allegedly nuts because I was paranoid because

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I couldn't disprove the competent evidence that you and other people had produced about

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who really did 9-1-1, what was really going on, the fact that there's a globalist takeover

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and that mass genocide is ultimately the agenda of these botanic worshiping, abominable, super

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rich, the global banking cartel, and all the stooges who are doing, the goyim, who are

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doing their bidding.

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But at any rate, the long and short of it is we remember that through your listeners,

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almost just knocking out the whole circuit on the mental health hospital, we got out

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of there in a matter of days.

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Well, we had this happen again recently by someone who did a lot of 9-1-1 work.

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Did you escape?

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I've seen the abuses in the court system where people get run over the top of them.

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Yeah, it's the new Soviet Union where you criticize the government, you're crazy, and

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they arrest you.

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Exactly.

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And besides that, I'll - You don't like the microchip.

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You're crazy.

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We gotta put you in the nuthouse.

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Hey, Alex, did you not hear the part where he's very clearly anti-Semitic?

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Did you not hear that very loud horn that he honked?

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Oh, you mean the goyim?

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I feel like that is a piece of this that Alex is just conveniently ignoring.

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Let's not think about that.

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This guy, as best I can tell, because obviously it's just a first name and a state, so I can't

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look into what actually happened to this person.

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Maybe not, but I would guess that his loved ones probably had him locked up in a hospital

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because he was going a little bit off.

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And in those situations, you can't hold people for very long without cause.

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And so maybe a bunch of InfoWars listeners called that hospital, and it just so happened

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that also the hold that he was under.

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This is the kind of thing that I can see in the real world matching the details of his

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story, but instead, the way it's interpreted is, I was too onto the real shit.

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I couldn't disprove this stuff, so everyone thought I was crazy, and so I got put in a

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hospital, and then your listeners called, and they demanded my freedom.

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Nick should not be humoring this.

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Yeah, no, that's really fucked up, because, as somebody who's aware of these very specific

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things for me, it's voluntary, and if it's not, it is very not.

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It is very not.

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But when it's very not, it still, in most states, is not something that can last very

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long.

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Right, right, right, right.

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So if he was put in somewhere involuntarily, you could be out in a few days.

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That's true.

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That is true.

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Oh, man.

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So we get another caller who's a little bit less troubling, and he wants to know, what

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are the odds that Bush is going to install himself as the dictator over America?

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And I had a question for you, because I was kind of concerned after watching 9-11, the

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road to tyranny, and after watching that, I could see how Bush is using the same format

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like what Hitler did and others to take control of the country.

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And my question was, is that I'm worried that, what if he decides to let some massive event

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happen before the election, say like October or November?

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Well, they won't let an event take place, they'll engage in it.

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Yeah, suppose that he does that, right?

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And then he suspends the elections and everything to keep himself in power, you know, for, and

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I don't know how long of a time he could do that for, but I understand he has the power

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or the ability to do that.

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And then he could, you know, proclaim himself as the dictator for this country, just like

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that.

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I mean, what are the chances, do you think, of something like that happening?

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Well, I'd say it's a very good chance that's going to happen.

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One hundred percent.

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The government plans declassified documents to bomb DC, to commit sniper attacks, to hijack

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jets by remote control, and crash them killing people, or staging fake crashes as a pretext

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for control and war.

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I have misrepresentations of Operation Northwoods, and therefore there's a good chance that Bush

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is going to do a giant false flag in order to become the dictator by canceling the 2004

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elections, which we know happened, and then four years later all kids are being microchipped

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because it's cool, because Donnie D, the MACG rapper, has made it cool.

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And it all comes back to this fucking Baja Beach Club.

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This is the perfect moment, though, truly, for Alex to have that, like, alright, well,

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here's what you would do to steal the election, alright?

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You would claim that the election results were stolen and that they weren't real.

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Then you would have a faithless electors slate go to the thing, and then you would, on January

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6th, that would be a great day to do it.

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January 6th!

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That's the number one day to do shit like that!

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It would be fun.

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You know, it would be great.

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That would be fun.

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Is Alex having an impotent prediction of something that doesn't come to pass that he seems very

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confident about?

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Yeah.

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Seems to be a trend.

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So this caller, though, he wants to know, what's the time frame for the next thing where

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the globalists are going to attack?

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Don't we all?

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Well...

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Isn't that really the question?

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Tell me when and what to do!

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You can't.

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Well, Alex, what timeline do you give this thing?

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Like, when is it too late for people to wake up and actually do something about this?

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We've been fighting the globalists so successfully that whereas two years ago they had a time

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frame to carry out more terror by now, big events here in the US, not pinpricks around

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the world, not a pinprick if you die, but comparatively speaking that's what they call

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it, just their scare tactics, they would have already engaged in bigger events.

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Right now, I think they're trying to address things, they're trying to study, they're kind

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of like deer in the headlights, things aren't going as they thought it would, there's a

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massive awakening that's already taken place, so they're even in a way more dangerous right

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now but overall that's good because now they're a little more ham-fisted and making a lot

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bigger mistakes.

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So we've got them on the defensive right now, but we're in the twelfth round of a heavyweight

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battle here.

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Oh man, that sounds like the present day.

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Isn't it always this?

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The globalists are panicking, they're deer in the headlights, I've managed to because

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of my wild victories, I've been able to make it so they haven't attacked yet, it's constant.

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I made a point on our last episode about a 2024 episode that the globalists are always

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seeming to be in this state, here we are in 2004, it's all the same, it's always the fucking

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same.

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I know there is a video game that is about Alex or whatever, but if I was going to make

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one, here's what it is, it's just a timer and it's like, till the globalists, ten seconds,

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and you've got Alex in the middle of the screen and you just walk around and if you find a

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booze juice, you get an extra ten seconds.

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That is the entire game.

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I was thinking of a conceptual framework where it's like, uh oh, your narrative doesn't make

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sense and then you have to weave through a puzzle, bend yourself into situations to plug

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up the holes in the narrative, but you're plugging the holes in the narrative, I don't

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know how to design a video game, so we get another caller and they ask, hey, you talk

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a lot about how they're going to bring back the draft, sure, when's that happening?

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Yeah, again.

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When do you think that they're going to initiate the draft?

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Well they've got a total of eleven different bills, it was nine, now there's two more in

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both the House and Senate, and it's a universal draft, the draft is back, and some are eighteen

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to forty nine, some are eighteen to twenty six, different versions, and they're lined

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up to pass now, I would think after the next big attack, that they'll pass a universal

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draft and we'll all start becoming their slaves.

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So thank you for the call, we'll be right back.

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Oh, that's a condescending-ass tone.

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It's always the next one, it's always there's going to be the draft after the next one,

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and you know, I guess you could always argue that whatever happens isn't actually the next

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one, even though Alex believes that all of these mass shootings and all of these acts

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have been globalist false flags, so shouldn't the next one have happened?

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And even you could call natural disasters Hurricane Katrina, you know, these are all

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things that have happened since 2004, but no, the next one, it didn't do it, but then

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the next one will, but then the next one, next one's going to be the draft, it's happening,

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it's right around the corner.

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Yeah, man.

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It's dark.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, that's the bleak picture that you get looking at the past.

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It is very bleak looking at the past.

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So Alex is a little bit frustrated, because some of these callers have been plugging things,

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and that is a little bit annoying.

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And yes, I want to take your calls, and I'm not trying to sound irritable earlier when

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I'm like, man, the plug-in's got to stop, but you saw it, like, three, four callers

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in a row, I mean, it's like, come on, folks, that's not good radio.

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But I'm here to tell the truth, get the information out, and try to make it interesting in the

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presentation.

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And that's why this show is, oh boy, has the great distinction of being the number one

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Christian patriot pop show in the country, because I don't descend into plugging endlessly,

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I don't descend into fighting with other patriots, which is the favorite pastime of all the failures

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out there, and I wish they'd get themselves together and move forward against the New

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World Order.

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We don't do that here on this broadcast.

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We fight the globalists, we expose the evil.

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And I'm surprised that more callers, frankly, aren't concerned about that interview in the

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last hour.

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That is notable.

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No, you're crazy.

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There is nothing to worry about.

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Yeah, I mean, soon when you come in our club, you'll have to have the microchip, and when

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I pressed him on it, he said, well, maybe not.

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I mean, that was chilling stuff, to buy and sell, you gotta have a microchip.

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I think we've heard this before.

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Mark of the beast, guys, come on.

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Okay, here's my pitch.

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All right, time machine, obviously, we've got one.

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We need to grab one, and Alex, from January 1st of 1994 to Alex January 1st, 2024, we

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get one every year.

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This is your life.

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And then we have the Royal Rumble.

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They have to fight it out.

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30 Alexes from 30 years apart, each one has a completely different ax to grind with the

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others, because they disagree on everything.

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If you allow that old jacked Alex, he's gonna win.

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That old, when he was a muscle builder.

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When he was super ripped.

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Yeah, I think he's gonna win, unless it's kayfabe.

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We seed it.

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Are you talking about a shoot Royal Rumble, where they're actually fighting?

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I mean, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Well, then the young one's gonna win.

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But how are you gonna get current day Alex over the top rope?

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But here's what I'm saying, all right, so the older ones, they're gonna team up on the

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younger one, right though?

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Because some of the older ones have to agree with each other on stuff, and the younger

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ones- But some of the younger ones agree with each

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other too.

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Actually, I disagree.

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I say, all of them kill the hottest one immediately, and it has nothing to do with politics.

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They just- It's vanity.

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They just hate being unattractive, so much that they kill the pretty one.

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I think that's against the rules of a Royal Rumble, but-

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Murder?

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Yeah.

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I think it is interesting to note though, in that clip, that Alex considers the genre

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of his show Christian Patriot Talk Radio.

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That branding is slippery in this period of time.

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It is different.

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It's also interesting how much this 2004 Alex would hate who he becomes.

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He's opposed to constant plugs, and his show devolves into desperate sales pitches for

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supplements in just years from this point.

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He's against infighting among patriots, and then he gets constantly obsessed with fighting

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with people like Glenn Beck.

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Honestly, I don't know if his show is actually against plugging or infighting, but his branding

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at this point makes it more believable when he says that it is.

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But it also feels weird that Alex is just coming out and saying that he's not getting

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the response that he wants from his interview.

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I suspect it's because he was so polite and nice with this guy that it probably bored

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most of the audience.

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They're probably listening to it and like- They didn't get it.

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Yeah.

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They didn't get it the same exact way he didn't get it.

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Yeah.

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Alex can yell about it being proof of the mark of the beast now, and that's exciting,

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but the interview itself probably didn't move the needle for most of the people.

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Yeah.

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It was a boring interview, even though after the fact you can do the voices, but when he's

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giving the interview, the guy sounds like a regular ass dude who owns a fucking bar.

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How do you do, sir?

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Your fabulous club has a bunch of specials.

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But yeah, and then later on you can be like, he said that for the NSA.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But in the real interview, he's like, no, I wasn't there, I did some stuff.

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The existence of the interview has enough of the pieces that Alex needs to do the presentation

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later.

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Right.

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But the interview on its own isn't as nefarious as Alex wants it to be.

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Right.

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The yelling about it later is.

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But he's mistaking the fact that he can use it later with the interview itself actually

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being useful.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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So Alex gets another call, and this guy, he seems like he's amenable to Alex.

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So Alex is like, come on, man, let's talk about that interview.

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Let's do it.

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Yeah.

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What did you think?

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Did you hear that first hour interview?

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I did.

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It was chilling.

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I couldn't even believe it.

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Well, globally, we're all going to have our chips.

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Yeah, no.

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He just thought it was so great that we're all going to be chipped.

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And isn't that special?

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And we won't have to pay money anymore.

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And sooner than Brian would have known.

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Man, did you hear this quote, quote, the chip will prevail in the future.

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Yeah.

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I couldn't believe it.

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No, it will prevail.

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And the guy who seemed on his giddy and brainwashed, how cool it was.

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No, no, that's all training as a bear chips subsidiary seller.

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I've had, I think, about four other people on.

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What?

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Including the CEO.

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Shut the fuck up.

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And it's, I mean, you can play a recording of each one, and it sounds like the same person.

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I mean, it's that bad.

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I have no evidence that he's had anybody else on bear chip on.

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What are you talking about?

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Yeah.

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I made that up now.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That is fun.

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That's a nice little add on.

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Oh no, that's how they train them at fair chip.

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Man, you know, it is, it is sometimes like you look at stuff and I wonder what if Alex

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was what he said he was.

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I think that's, that's, um, you know, something I touched on in one of our like really early

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episodes is the idea of somebody who is a vigilant and watchful and, and a little bit

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bombastic is something that society could use.

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If Alex was what he pretends to be, there is a use for him in a functioning society,

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but not, not the actual thing that he is.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There's, there's two things that could be a better world.

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Uh, Alex was who he says he was or collectively we're able to be like instantly, you're not

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who you say you are.

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That we, kick rocks, douche.

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That we live in the one place where neither of these things is true is the absolute worst

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possible outcome.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, obviously they riff a little bit about the, the interview and Alex feels pretty good

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about that, but I think it's still eating away at him that people aren't saying nice

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enough things about it.

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And there's too many callers that were like about Bush doing a false flag and everybody's

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got their own acts to grind into a hospital because he's too antisemitic.

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There's too much other shit going on.

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So Alex has just got to like, all right, I got to do it myself.

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I got to just make this entertaining.

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It's counterculture to not get married.

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It's counterculture to have children out of wedlock.

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It's counterculture to break things down.

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It's counterculture to be lazy and stupid and, and, and, and, and, you know, Oh, it's

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so cool to not know where America is on a map.

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No, it's not cool.

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You really want to be rebellious.

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You really want to be counterculture.

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Join us.

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Join with the people that love freedom.

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We're the coolest.

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You are pathetic jellyfish out there.

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You trendies and the yuppies and the rest of you.

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You're not even in the game.

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Your life doesn't even matter because you've made it not matter.

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You're a cog, a programmable jellyfish.

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You will break your conditioning.

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You will break it.

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Unlock your minds now.

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Come on people.

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Now.

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We're under unbelievable attack.

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They're putting daddy-o cameras in school bathrooms.

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That ain't America.

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Ah.

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We just had one of these lunatics on here.

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Soon the global, everyone will have their global chip in them.

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Soon our global system, our global ID in your hand.

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I mean, it's happening.

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This strikes me a lot.

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Like, you know, Alex's performance is basically like an angry child talking about stuff that

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sounds like what adults would discuss.

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Yeah.

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He's feeling that he's still kind of that youth watching his dad's John Birch society

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friends yell about bullshit.

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And then he's doing an impression of that.

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With any of your wishes.

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I was just thinking the exact same shit.

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I was thinking, this is a JBS person complaining about beatniks.

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You know?

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This is a, oh, you think it's cool to not get married anymore with your long hair.

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You're like, what are you, what are we doing?

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What are we doing?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Hold on, hold on, man.

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This is the wrong era.

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Wrong era.

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I get what you're doing, but wrong era.

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Come on.

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2004 wasn't that long ago.

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Exactly.

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It was, but it's not.

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But it's not that.

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Yeah.

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Come on, man.

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So, you know, Alex said that he doesn't plug and he doesn't infight.

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And then it seems like he gets into a little bit of infighting.

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Plugging his book again as usual, The Enemy Within.

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And he quoted something from his book to one of the callers.

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And he was saying that there's something that's a hundred times worse than a dirty nuke.

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And you know what that is?

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A clean one.

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It's the tongue of the traitors in this country that are against the war and against George

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Bush.

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Oh, that's not clever.

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And they should all be arrested and put in forced labor camps.

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We have a national show on 450 stations saying put people in forced labor camps.

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You're right.

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It's, it's, it's terrible.

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And, and, and unfortunately, you know, I have gotten some of your videos and I've been giving

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them out to people.

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And it's very hard to break through the brainwashing that they're getting from the neocons on TV

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and on the radio.

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Well, in Road to tyranny, we show them who the terrorists are, according to the government.

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It's the conservatives.

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Yeah, on the surface, they say it's the Muslims, but all the real training's for us.

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I agree, Michael.

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I think that, excuse me.

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Oops.

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Alex, I agree with you.

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Michael Savage?

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They, they take care of the Muslims.

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Michael Savage is an oily, breezy, dirty beatnik, okay?

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He's a fat bellied, uh, socialist who found out how to, how to really get us.

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I agree.

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He makes me want to puke.

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Can I, can I relate one other thing?

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He's a demonic dwarf.

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I mean, just a little while after this, once Michael Savage starts being nice to Alex,

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he's a forefather of the Patriot movement.

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One of the greatest.

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You know, that he has experienced being a beatnik is actually useful.

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I mean, this is really just Alex infighting with other people in right wing media.

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Almost personally, because they're not nice to him and pay no attention to him and don't

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support the same conspiracies that he does.

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Yeah.

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So that's, you know, I guess this is one problem.

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Alex doesn't fight.

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He said he doesn't, but he does.

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But at least he doesn't plug.

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At least he doesn't plug.

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He's against the endless plugging.

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You know, he has to plug.

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We all have to plug, but the endless plug.

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Yeah, sure.

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Sure.

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Sky television news is reporting that a Pentagon source has told them that 130 US troops have

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been killed, but you're going to see this broken up into each individual battle and

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reported in pieces in the newspaper.

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He'll have to add them all up for yourself as a propaganda tactic.

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London guardians reporting that they escalated all of this again, so the US can stage as

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the bad cop and the UN can be the good cop.

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And so they don't have the handover.

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And now they've blown up part of a mosque, which is sure to stir things up even worse.

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Very, very serious.

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Yeah you sound like it.

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Before we go to a few final calls, my friends, I hope that all of you will get my videos.

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I hope you will make copies of them.

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I hope you will get them out to your friends, your family, air them on access television.

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They're waking up 90% of those that see them.

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People's minds are very open right now.

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See, I mean he does give short shrift to stories in order to weave into plugs.

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So I mean he does still do that.

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It's certainly not as incessant as it is once he starts doing the supplements, but he still

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does a fair amount of it.

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And also, 90% is way down.

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Way down from the 98 and 95s that we're used to.

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What happened?

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I don't know.

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Probably he had a bad run, you know?

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Like that's the thing about percentages, you know, like okay, 50% of the time you're gonna

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get heads or tails, you know?

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We all know that.

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But what if you get 10 heads in a row?

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That's just as likely.

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Right?

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Every single time.

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Fifty-five, fifty-fifty, fifty-fifty.

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Ninety though.

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I mean like, if you're talking about the number of data points that Alex presumably has, in

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order to go down from 95 even to 90, that's a slump.

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Well we had 50, we were 49 out of 50, and then boy, now we're 49 out of 56.

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Unfortunately we've just gone way down.

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So Alex also has a really convenient way to not be wrong there with the 130 deaths.

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You're gonna see reported lower numbers than that, but that's actually them just breaking

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it up and blah blah blah.

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It's not.

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You've got bad information and you're not going to admit that it was tentative information

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that you have reported as factual and complete.

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Because it's more important that the media is covering things up than any of these stories.

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It's about sowing distrust in the media as opposed to reporting an actual story.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And ironically, telling people that this is a propaganda tactic is itself a propaganda

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tactic.

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Yikes.

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Yeah.

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So there was also, I didn't play any of this, but there was about a half hour of the show

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where Alex complains about TV.

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Sure, there's a lot to complain about.

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Sure.

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It melts your brain.

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Yep.

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Makes dumb.

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Opioids.

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And also every episode of The Shield is apparently about how torture is good.

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He complained about that for quite a while.

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I want to return to a world where people all agreed that torture is bad.

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Now it feels like people are no longer agreeing on this.

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Well this mostly had to do with Alex going to a Chinese restaurant the night before and

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seeing on the TV that bald man, he doesn't know Michael Chiklis' name, but he's like

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the bald man from NYPD Blue or whatever.

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What's the other show Chiklis was on?

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I don't know.

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Wasn't NYPD Blue Detective Sipowitz, wasn't he the bald guy?

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Frans.

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Dennis Frans.

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Dennis Frans.

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Was on NYPD Blue.

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I know that.

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Dennis Frans.

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Is he dead?

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He's dead.

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Chiklis was the thing.

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Chiklis was the thing in The Fantastic Four.

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Boy, that one really sent his career downwards.

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It did.

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Yeah.

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Ironically fantastic casting.

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He was, he actually was the good, he was really the only good character.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Poor guy.

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He was in America as, yeah, dangerous.

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We come to the end of this, and this was, you know, an interesting exercise in Alex

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doing an interview that's a setup, and then paying it off with talking about the interview

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immediately after, fleshing out the, this is how you interpret the things he said, this

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is the, he's announcing this plan, as opposed to just being a guy who's in favor of these

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technologies and thinks they're cool.

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Yeah.

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I am, I will admit, jealous.

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I am jealous of the ability to do something and then inexplicably be proud of yourself

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for a different reason.

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That is amazing.

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It is.

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It is.

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Because-

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Alex has a lot of enviable self-soothing mechanisms.

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Yeah.

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I've done things that I think legitimately I should be proud of, and I find it impossible

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to.

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Yeah.

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It would be an incredible hurdle in most of my life to be able to enjoy the things that

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happen.

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Now, what if you were able to enjoy them for a fake reason?

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What if I was able to enjoy the things that I shouldn't enjoy?

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Well, I don't, I mean, I feel like there's a number you can call, and it's Alex's hotline.

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Yeah, that's true.

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See if he can fix that for you.

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There is, again, moderation in all things.

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You should not be Alex, and you should not be me.

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That's fair.

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Enjoy some things.

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That is fair.

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Yeah.

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Enjoy some, don't enjoy others.

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Yep.

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So, yeah.

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I don't know.

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I think that this is maybe, if you look at it, not that important.

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Right.

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But it is actually something that Alex is trying to make one of the most important interviews

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that he's ever done.

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Yeah.

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And in that, it becomes more important.

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Yeah.

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And you can see the ways that he engages with information through the analysis of that.

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So that's why I thought it was a worthwhile use of our time, and the fact that in the

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present day, Alex is making so many excuses, bending over backwards to explain away why

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what Musk is doing is cool.

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Yeah.

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And you look in the past, and it's like, the devil, the devil!

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It's one-to-one, man.

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Yeah.

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There's no like, oh, the context has changed.

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It's literally, not only has the context not changed, it's actually freakish that the one

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thing that you really legitimately should be like, if a billionaire is trying to put

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chips in you, I warned you about that before other people did.

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If there was anything you were going to do that for.

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And I didn't play this clip, I don't have a clip of this, but, and a part of it, when

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he's talking about that Army War College report that is about everyone getting chipped, he

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said that they predicted it would happen by 2025.

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You're joking!

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Which, if that's the case, he should really be concerned about Musk.

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Goddammit!

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Of all the things that we have to listen to you being, Alex Jones is right about, this

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one instead, you're like, well, hey, man, this guy's actually fucking cool.

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Yeah, he's great.

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Jesus Christ.

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He's a bigot in the way that I like, and he let me back on social media.

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Oh, man.

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Anyway, we'll be back with another episode, but tell that.

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We have a website.

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Indeed, we do.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep, we're also on Twitter.

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We are on Blue Sky.

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Oh, that's right.

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It's Knowledge Fight.

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Shit, I zoned out.

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We're off Twitter, or we're on it.

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I don't even know anymore.

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Anyway, we'll be back.

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Until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm D.Z.

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X. Clark.

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Damn it.

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I'm not good at improvising, but I was going to try and come up with a song that involved,

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oh, you know what I should have done?

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Here's what I should have done.

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This is good improvising.

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I should have.

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Here's what I should have done in this scene.

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In advance, I should have looked up one of the Baja Boys songs.

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That's what you should have done.

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And then sung it here at the end.

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That's what I should have done.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Imagine that.

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Imagine.

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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.

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And now, here comes the sex robot.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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I love you.