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N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Knowledge Fight

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.

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knowledgefight.com

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It's time to pray.

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I have great respect for knowledge fight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.

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I love your work.

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knowledgefight.com

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I love you.

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Hey, everybody.

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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're couple dudes.

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I'd like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex

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Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan.

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Jordan.

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Quick question for you.

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today, buddy?

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My bright spot today is I got a haircut.

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Yes, you did.

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And I'm thrilled about it.

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I noticed.

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I think it was a good job they did at the barber, at the hair cuttery.

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I'm great.

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I think that actually is a place, like a chain of...

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It is.

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I did not go to a hair cuttery.

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You did not.

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I know, because your hair looks quite nice.

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So I did that, and it was an interesting experience, because there was a fight going on between

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two of the barbers.

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Interesting.

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It was real passive aggressive.

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What kind of a fight?

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I don't know.

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It had something to do with someone not, like, refilling the warm towels or something.

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Oh, no.

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At least that was a part of it.

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Sure.

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But there was clearly layers to it.

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Sure, sure.

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And part of it seemed like maybe they were having fun, but then another part of it felt

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like it's really hostile.

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Right, right, right, right.

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And when you're mid-haircut, that's not...

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I mean, you can't move.

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You know?

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Sure.

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You're like, I'm out of here.

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At least you weren't mid-shaped.

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That's a part of it.

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You know, I do get a haircut, beard trim, and...

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Oh, yeah.

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But you don't do the straight razor.

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Oh, yes.

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You did?

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Yeah.

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Did you get it yesterday?

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Yesterday, yeah.

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Oh, my God.

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Your beard grows so fucking fast, man.

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It does.

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It is a mess.

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It is.

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It is a mess.

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But that's why...

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It is astonishing.

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But that's why it's like I could get to the state I was in yesterday morning.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Where there's just...

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Yeah.

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There's just so much hair growing out of my head.

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I learned that lesson over and over again.

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It's like you feel so much better when you just chop it off.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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And I keep forgetting it.

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Whenever it's...

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You know?

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I get lazy.

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Yeah.

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Well, it happens.

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Second bright spot.

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Sure.

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Correction.

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Wait.

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A correction.

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Gene Hackman is still alive.

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Yes, yes.

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That is true.

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On the last episode, I definitely said that Gene Hackman was dead.

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I think this is another Mandela effect, like Clarence Carter.

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I could have sworn those dudes were dead.

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But I was wrong.

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Yeah.

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Sorry about that.

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Sorry, Gene.

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Hey, Gene.

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Glad to know you're still kicking around, buddy.

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Yep.

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By the way, he's a huge listener.

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He's the one who reached out to let us know he wasn't dead.

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Yep.

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He was like whatever his lines from Hoosiers were.

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Right.

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He was mad that I didn't bring up that movie he was in with Jason Lee.

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What the fuck was that called?

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I bet he doesn't know.

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Oh, man.

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Gold diggers.

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It's something along those lines.

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Wait.

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What's your bright spot?

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I think I know what you're talking about.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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What's your bright spot?

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My bright spot, Dan, is a... Boy, I don't know if you know this, but we were designed

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to hype.

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That is true.

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We're hypers.

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Heartbreakers.

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What's the name of it?

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Heartbreakers.

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That's what it is.

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Because it has a what's-her-face in it.

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Jennifer Love Hewitt.

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That's her name.

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How do you do it?

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I'm looking up the- Oh, that makes sense.

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Yeah.

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Also, Ray Liotta.

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Ray Liotta.

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Uh-huh.

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I don't know what to say.

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Oh, I'm pretty sure he's dead.

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Yeah.

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Probably.

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Sigourney Weaver also in that.

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I think every episode now we should end with somebody being dead.

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And we're wrong about.

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Yes, exactly.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So, I'm sorry.

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I interrupted you with that.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So, I've put a lot of work into a certain something that will come to fruition, hopefully

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soon.

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And I've got a lot of good news, and I'm really excited about it.

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It's really, really cool, and I think everybody's gonna like it.

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Okay.

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We'll hear more.

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What a amazing hype.

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It's a hype!

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I'm just saying that there's something to be hyped about.

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Okay.

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That will be revealed in the near future.

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Maybe on Monday.

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Maybe on Monday.

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We'll find out then.

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Could be, but I'm hyping it.

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Hype!

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Hyped.

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You're gonna see something very bizarre mirrored back in your face in just a minute.

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Okay.

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Jordan.

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Yes?

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Tucker Carlson, the most important man in the world, has gone to Moscow to interview

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Vladimir Putin.

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We took a little bit of a gamble, and I thought that the interview was going to come out on

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Wednesday.

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And so, we would be able to cover it for this Thursday episode.

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Would be nice.

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Because I do think that the adjacency of Alex to Tucker, the importance of Putin and their

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world, I do think that it's something that merits coverage on our show.

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And I thought, hey, that'll be wild.

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That's gonna be, I don't even know what to expect, quite frankly, in terms of the depths

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it'll go to.

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I mean, I was trying to think of something similar, and it would be like, in 1943, some

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fucking yellow journalist who goes and interviews Hitler in the middle of World War II.

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Just being like, hey man, how you doing?

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And doesn't interview them like, challengingly.

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No, no, no.

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I mean, it hasn't come out, and you know it's not going to be like, really putting the feet

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to the fire.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So, I thought that it'd be great to cover this for Thursday, we record on Thursday for

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the Friday episode.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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But unfortunately it turns out it's being released Thursday, which is when we're recording

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right now.

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As we speak.

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So, turning it around would be too difficult.

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Impossible, in fact.

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Some have speculated that time and space would need to fold.

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They would, yes.

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So, we're going to do that for Monday, which is not what you were hyping.

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No, we're hyping something different, but that also should be hyped.

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Sure.

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Yeah, Monday's going to be more, actually turn this episode off.

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No.

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Oh, okay, never mind.

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So, we're going to cover that for Monday, but what I thought would be interesting is

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covering Alex's response to the news that this is coming.

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That's kind of what I figured would be a good hype.

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Yeah, so we're talking about Alex's show from the 7th, which is Wednesday, and you know,

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he's a big dumb dumb.

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So we'll get down to business on all the ways in which he is a big dumb dumb, but first,

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let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

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Ooh, that's a great idea.

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So first, Dan needs to do Mystery Babylon like he promised.

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Oh no, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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I promise I would like to, but that might have been a stray promise on my part.

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There's so many parts to it, and Bill Cooper is unfortunately more boring than I thought

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back then.

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Well, yeah.

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Let's wrap up the great work from Nick in Devon, England.

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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next, after listening to hundreds of episodes of Knowledge Fight, officially heard Jordan

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misuse the word whenever over a thousand times, and it's driving me crazy.

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If you know when the thing happened, just say when, not whenever.

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Other than that, you and Dan are a pure delight, and please keep doing what you're doing.

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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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I hate whenever people do stuff like that.

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I am 100% on the Shakira Whenever Wherever usage scale, and that is whenever and wherever.

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Next.

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Thoughts and prayers, but it's like T-H-O-T.

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Yeah.

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Thoughts and prayers.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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I still don't know what that means.

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What?

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That ho over there?

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Is that what that means?

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Yeah.

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Oh shit.

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Well, that's not very nice at all.

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That's an offensive term.

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How do I know a slag if you don't know?

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I don't know.

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That's not good.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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And Helter Stelter.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much.

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I was this close to naming the episode that.

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Yeah.

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This close.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, it was two there.

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Yeah.

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And it was just broken with the tradition of the chatting with titles.

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Yep, yep, yep.

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So we've also got a technocrat in the mix Jordan, so thank you so much to Todd invites

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you to the Black Magic Party.

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Thank you so much.

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You're now a technocrat.

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And I'm going to say this right now.

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Yeah.

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Though I may have never followed through on my promise to do Mystery Babylon, I am now

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following through on my promise to have a new technocrat drop.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I don't like to hype things, but people are designed to hype.

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I am going to paint once a week on air, and I'm going to let callers call in.

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We'll also take emails and request what you want to see me paint 123 Matt Damon, there

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you go.

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It's party time.

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I'm gonna get in your guts.

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And the Nazis in my view were thugs that shut people down to a lot of really bad things.

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But they did good things too.

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We're going to stop dissing the Nazis all the time.

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Okay.

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I'm thinking about doing some shows too, where I run the whole thing myself, just hit record

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and sit in the dark with just a few candles and candlelight and talk about the nature

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of the world universe.

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I mean, you know, a big old juicy ribeye folks is as good as sex with your wife.

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I mean, let's just get down to reality here.

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I'm going to go Donkey Kong, King Kong crazy in about 45 days.

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America sucks.

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We're all racist.

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It's over.

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It doesn't mean I want to go live, say in some places in Asia where you get off the

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plane over there, folks, they karate chop you.

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Thank you so much.

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Oh man, they karate chop you.

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Yep.

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You never, never see that coming.

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Never see it coming.

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You got off the plane.

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Never see it coming.

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Oh, that was a great episode.

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That was.

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That was a lot of fun.

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Yep.

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So, I don't know, maybe I might need to tweak the pacing on that a little bit.

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I mean, it's a delay.

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It's long.

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It's fantastic.

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Yeah.

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So, um, we're going to get down to business on this episode, but Jordan, before we do,

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here's an out of context drop from today's show.

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Okay.

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Tucker Carlson wants all the big interviews.

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Got Kevin Spacey.

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I mean, you know, I mean that, that's what Tucker Carlson does.

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You got Alex Jones.

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Yeah, man.

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Two big interviews.

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Oh man.

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Alex Jones said, disgraced ass Kevin Spacey.

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Man, that is, it is, I mean, it's beyond parody at this point, but boy, watching conservatives

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list celebrities that are also conservative is never not a little bit fun.

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Yeah.

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You know who we got?

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Blank.

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Oh no.

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Can you believe he pulled a Kevin Spacey interview?

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Are you shitting me?

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That guy no one else will talk to?

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Oh, and he did his character from House of Cards.

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Oh wow.

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What a great thing no one wanted.

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I'll be able to stop doing that.

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So we start here actually with Alex responding to the breaking news that this interview had

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happened.

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Yes.

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And it turns out he's driving somewhere.

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That's true.

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When the news happened.

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And this is, this is something that's happening now that Alex is back on Twitter.

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Yeah.

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Is he's able to just record himself in his car and put it online.

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So here is Alex's first unfiltered while driving thoughts.

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All right.

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Okay folks, Tucker has announced that he's got the Putin interview and he just texted

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me and said, yeah, it's amazing.

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It's two hours long.

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So it dropped very, very soon.

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They're not going to sit on it and it's going to be history making.

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We're trying to stop World War Three.

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All the different sides should be talking.

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This is amazing.

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So obviously tomorrow on my weekday show, 11 AM, 3 PM, I'll be covering this, but it

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sounds from what Tucker said when he's told me this is imminent.

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So this is a big, big, big, big deal.

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And all the sensors are in absolute full and complete panic mode right now because they

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don't want the American people, who they keep in the dark, have any idea what's really going

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on.

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The free speech is what America is all about.

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It's our birthright.

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So two hour Vladimir Putin, Tucker Carlson interview about to drop.

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Fuck you, New World Order.

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Take your censorship and go fuck yourselves.

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Very impassioned.

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Go affect yourselves.

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How about that?

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Also, could you walk the line here, sir?

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I was honestly like, does his car have a breathalyzer that he has to breathe into before he can

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drive?

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Just, but there is like, that's probable cause.

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He should really have a breathalyzer before he can start his car.

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Well, that would be tyranny.

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So you know, there's excitement behind the unexcited delivery that he's bringing to the

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table here.

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Yeah.

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I think just based upon hearing that, do you remember in the dark night whenever the joker

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was like, let me show you what I can do with this pencil?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Of course.

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This is what William F. Buckley would do to Tucker Carlson, right?

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Like the fucking National Review ass conservative thought guy would stab you in the neck with

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a pen.

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Like it is insane to think.

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I don't think he stabbed him in the neck, did he?

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No, no, no.

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I was, I'm moving on from that one.

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Oh, okay.

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Well, he certainly didn't have much love for, let's say, Goldwater and some of the ancestors

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of Alex's intellectual tradition, but we certainly did not like them too much.

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Not sure if he'd go all joker on them, but you never know.

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So we start Alex's actual show on the seventh here, and of course, Tucker is one of the

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big topics.

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It's Wednesday, February 7th, 2024.

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I'm your host, Alex Jones.

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We are 271 days, 12 hours, 29 minutes, 18 seconds off the most important election in

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world history.

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The globalists are hurtling us towards full World War III.

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They're now calling for Tucker Carlson to be sanctioned by the European Union.

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The neocons are calling for his arrest.

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This is all about the war on the press and the war on the people intensifying.

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So one EU lawmaker named Guy Verhofstadt tweeted about the possibility of Tucker getting an

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EU travel ban for engaging in propaganda on behalf of Putin, but that wasn't really something

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that went anywhere.

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The EU foreign policy chief, Joseph Burrell, told Barons, quote, currently there are no

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discussions in the relevant EU bodies linked to this specific person, referring to Tucker.

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Real talk, though, he probably should have some sort of consequences for an act like

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this.

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It isn't just a little old journalist going and having a sincere interview with a controversial

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leader.

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There's nothing wrong with that kind of interview, where the journalist is prepared to ask hard

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questions and make the most of the access that they've been granted.

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It's very clear from everything about Tucker and how he's handled his career that this

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is not what the interview is going to be.

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This is going to be Tucker very willingly being used by Putin to spread his message,

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which is not an interview.

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It's promotional.

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Yeah.

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One of the early signs that this was the case was when, before the interview dropped, Tucker

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took to Twitter to rationalize his actions.

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Tucker.

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I'm sorry.

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Sorry.

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I bet he'll convince me with this.

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Sure.

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He said that it was important to hear Putin's side and claimed that other Western journalists

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hadn't even tried to interview Putin.

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Sure.

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This was almost immediately rebuffed by Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov, who said, quote,

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he in fact cannot know this.

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We receive many requests for interviews from the president.

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With the president.

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Excuse me.

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Sure.

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So why did Tucker try to pretend that no one else was even trying, when in fact everyone

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was trying and Putin only decided to choose Tucker?

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It's because he wants to act like he's the only person doing real, bold journalism and

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if he admitted the truth, it becomes a whole lot harder to argue with the claim that this

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interview is being done for Kremlin propaganda and they've chosen you as the person most

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likely to spread that propaganda in a positive light with no uncomfortable pushback.

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I was hand chosen to publicly lick the boots of a dictator and now all of you get to watch.

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Right.

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Have I triggered you with my journalism?

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Yeah.

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Libs.

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It's easy to sit around and say that Tucker's being a useful idiot and all that, but I don't

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really buy that.

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No, I don't think that Tucker is there because he's blinded by ambition or the drive to get

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a big scoop, which, which is just being exploited.

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I think he wants to do this.

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He likes Putin.

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He loves Putin.

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His audience loves Putin.

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This has been true for a long time.

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And as you know, it's free speech and freedom of the press, but the EU doesn't operate the

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same way the US does and they're certainly much more directly affected by Putin's aggression.

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So maybe they should do something.

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I have no faith that the US is going to do anything.

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Sean Hannity's show on Fox news just aired the guardian angels beating up a guy that

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they thought looked like an immigrant live on TV and there seems to be no consequences

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for that.

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Yep.

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So I just give up on accountability in the media in the United States.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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It exists.

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I know.

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I feel like that like is one of the most shocking things that's happened in a long time.

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I mean, the fact that Hannity's not like shit canned the next day.

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Oh, they don't care.

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But in the sane world, you're fired.

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I, I mean, I don't know.

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You interviewed the fucking guardian angels beat up a guy on TV.

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Here's here's what I have to say about all of this.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Every single person who said anything to me seven years ago should just be very quiet

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about the things that I say.

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But you said a lot of stupid things too.

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I did, but I was right about the ones that mattered.

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I'm not sure which ones you mean now.

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The ones where if you allow these people to go unchecked, we're going to get here and

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not like, oh, it's just going to be like more of the same.

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Yeah, no, there are people beaten to death on live TV.

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That's where we are now.

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Right.

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Thankfully we're not at the beaten to death part.

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That's a thing you said.

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True.

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I think, I think that this is one of the things that you can kind of sense is a pretty potential

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or likely outcome of the trends, the things we've been going down, but it's always hard

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to make specific predictions and the way that things specifically play out always still

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feel a little shocking.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I get that.

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Yeah.

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It's like we did this, didn't we?

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Yeah.

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I mean, I don't know.

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When was, when were the guardian angels around?

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Like the eighties?

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I, this is, this is what I'm saying.

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The more I, the more I get into this, the more it's like, oh, this isn't, this isn't

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a thing.

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This is just the ones that they stopped 60 years ago.

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They didn't stop them.

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They just went quiet for a while and now they're back like the herpes of America.

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And there's not, they're not going to go away.

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So Alex has Tucker on the mind, obviously, but there's shit going on in his world that

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you may not believe.

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And I say that because I don't believe it.

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Oh, okay.

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And this is just a little side note, but it gives you the climate, the left here.

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We have leftists, and I'm not going to give you the details of it, filing constant fake

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police reports on me.

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And there's been all sorts of stuff that's going on.

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They've, they've, they've done things in a whole bunch of Texas counties, including Travis,

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where they hack into the database computers of courthouses and issue arrest warrants for

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me from other States to Texas.

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So the next level of swatting for child rape and stuff like that, that's the kind of stuff

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that goes on.

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I don't get into all of it, but I was going to be hosting the fourth hour today, but I'm

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not going to do it now.

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I have to deal with warrants?

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I have the police coming here so that I can brief them so they can go arrest these people

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because they are absolutely sick of it.

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And it's not just one group, but it's a bunch of them.

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And so, and I don't tell you about this stuff.

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I don't complain about it.

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It is non stop and I know the same kind of crap happens to Tucker.

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Can you imagine being Trump?

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I mean, it's 50 times that a hundred times, probably about a hundred times.

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I'm sorry.

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There are a lot of warrants out on Trump.

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This is almost impossible for me to believe this story that Alex is telling the level

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of hacking this would require is very unlikely to happen.

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And this is really not the process things would follow if police were to come across

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an out of county warrant for Alex or something like that.

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This is bullshit.

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I think there are enough people who just watch that shit that we would hear about an out

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of county warrant issued for Alex fucking Jones.

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There is a strong likelihood.

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I also think that, I just don't think this is how it would go.

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I think this is nonsense, but what fascinates me is imagining what this could actually be

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about.

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I don't exclude the possibility that there is some kind of legal trouble that Alex is

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in.

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There are certainly a number of avenues that that could involve, or this could just be

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a fun story that he's come up with to amplify his own victimhood.

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Tucker just got this interview with Putin, so Alex is going to be in the doldrums for

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a while in terms of attention, unless he gets some good juices going.

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The EU wants to ban Tucker.

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Obviously Alex needs some kind of persecution of his own.

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It's boring if he doesn't.

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He's not over the target unless there's consequences.

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Yeah, but I just don't know what... Okay, so the hacking thing sounds stupid, but it's

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totally a social engineering possibility.

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Somebody could call and be like, I forgot my password.

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That shit happens.

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We do that, but what warrant are you sending?

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What could you be sending out from the courthouse?

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But Alex is also saying this keeps happening.

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Yeah, I know.

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That's the crazier part.

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That's the part that makes this into the realm of completely unbelievable.

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Yeah, unbelievable, I agree.

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I think this may have happened once.

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The idea that it keeps happening- I even think it happening once is incredibly

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unlikely.

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Something that caused this incident to be lied about happened, and I want to know what

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that is.

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Yes.

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Yeah, me too.

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We're not going to get any clarity on that, but apparently there have been six police

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reports since yesterday at this time when Alex is on air.

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That's fun.

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I've been trying for two weeks, and I'm behind.

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I'm going to start doing multiple ones a week, just with the Crowder show, because I had

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this whole Satanism special that I've been working on for like a month.

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Pro or con?

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Didn't get shot last week.

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Tried to shoot it yesterday.

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Couldn't do that because six fake police reports filed yesterday.

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But now one of the people doing it, their identity is known, so they're going to be

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able to take it and visit reportedly.

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But this is all next level swatting, ladies and gentlemen.

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Next level harassment, and I'm a big boy, I can take it.

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But that's how they take your time, it's how they take your energy, it's why you got to

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stay focused on God, and focused on justice, and just know that God's going to carry us

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through this.

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But can you imagine if we just roll over the New World Order, how bad it's going to be?

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Can you imagine seven police reports at all?

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Insane it would be?

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Because I don't let the enemy take my time, any more than I have to.

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So I haven't really told the crew about this stuff.

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I haven't even-

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Because that would take too much time?

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I just started saying there's a lot of stuff going on, as I've got arrows and stuff shooting

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past, and God has put a defense shield up around us, but it's still not fun.

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So I'm going to do the show here.

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Defense shield, activate.

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I'm going to do the show.

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Like a mope.

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If I have to.

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Yeah, I don't buy any of this.

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There is just a preliminary smell test, this doesn't pass, and then even just thinking

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about it for a second, it's like, you whine all the time.

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You would tell your staff about this?

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Absolutely.

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There's no way.

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You would walk in the door screaming, I got hacked!

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Dude, Rob, dude, they're trying to get me.

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Totally.

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100%.

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Yes, I don't believe that.

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Not even close.

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I think Alex might have some legal trouble.

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That sounds right.

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So we get back to the discussion of Tucker, and you're not really allowed to disagree

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with him.

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Who, Tucker?

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Yeah, if you-

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Who, Tucker?

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Well, I mean both, really.

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But if you oppose Tucker, that's censorship, my man.

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Interesting.

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We have the big Tucker Carlson report, and they're dropping the interview tomorrow at

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seven o'clock central, eight o'clock eastern.

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Very smart to not sit on it, and to get it out very, very quickly, it's very, very historic.

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We have the EU saying they want sanctions on him, some are calling for Tucker's arrest.

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This just shows you what criminals they are, they don't want you to be able to hear what

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you want to be able to listen to as an adult.

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When people censor, you're not just censoring the person that's being censored, you're censoring

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everybody's ability to make up their own mind.

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And I know everybody knows that, but do you really let that sink in?

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Opposing what Tucker is doing is not censorship, at least not for most people in this instance.

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Vladimir Putin is leading an invasion of a neighboring sovereign country that has led

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to about half a million deaths, according to the New York Times, from an estimate back

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in August, so it's gone up since then.

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Whether Tucker likes to admit it or not, deciding to interview a person like that within the

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context of an active war becomes a part of that war.

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You may feel like you're not engaging in an aspect of the war, but Putin sure does.

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There are responsible ways to interview people, even up to rogue heads of state, but it's

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hard.

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Walking the line of understanding the seriousness of the situation and making the most of the

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access you have to this person, not missing the opportunity to ask hard questions other

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people can't, is very difficult journalism.

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What Tucker is doing is not that.

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He's used to interviewing cat turd and the guy who claims he had sex with Obama.

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He's a shithead who wants to pal around more than he wants to do adversarial, challenging

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interviews.

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When you do that kind of an interview with a head of state who's engaged in a war started

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by their own invasion of another country, you're effectively becoming part of the war

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effort, just from a propaganda standpoint.

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Criticizing this is not based in censorship.

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Some of it could come from a much deeper place.

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That being said, Alex is trying to trot out his when you take a show off air, you're censoring

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the audience's right to hear things line, which is a big point that he and his lawyers

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tried to make in the Sandy Hook damages hearings.

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It failed to be persuasive there, and yet Alex continues deploying it, as if it makes

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any sense.

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Taken to its logical conclusion, Alex should have zero complaints about public indecency,

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if this is his position.

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Any attempt to stop these indecent acts like, I don't know, Steve-O stapling his balls to

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his leg, or just attempt to take away your freedom to see things like Steve-O stapling

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his balls to his leg.

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Yep.

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Is this America?

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Yep.

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Yep.

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I feel like Alex has had a lot of complaints about things that have been aired.

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I imagine that, and I'm gonna throw this out there, if Fox suddenly was like, hey, guess

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what, 24-7 butt-fucking, that's what we're doing, we're doing 24-7 butt-fucking, that's

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our network now, I imagine people might be unhappy with it.

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I think that's across the line, because airing pornography on public air, there's still FCC

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regulations about that.

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Sure.

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Let's turn this into a channel just being like, we're gonna talk straight up about Satan

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all the time.

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Yeah, I mean, whatever you like.

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That would be the equivalent, that you'd get around the kind of legality regulation aspect.

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Whatever you want.

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Yeah, but this is dumb.

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It's very dumb.

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Very dumb.

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Very dumb.

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Alex is, though, not thrilled by celebrities, we know this, but he's thrilled by Kevin Spacey

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doing an interview.

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I'm sorry?

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I was gonna say, he's a star-fucker.

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Yeah, a little bit, but he's not.

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In his own head.

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Well.

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So, I'm telling you, I have zero-

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I've been best friends with Charlie Sheen since-

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Zero pride in knowing a bunch of famous Hollywood people, in fact, I'm ashamed of it, pretty

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much.

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Well.

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And I have no, nothing thrills me.

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It doesn't thrill me at all, fishing with my family, a lot of stuff thrills me, but

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nothing in the establishment thrills me, no status, no power, nothing, but freedom matters

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to me.

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But I gotta tell you, Tucker Carlson is a thoroughbred now, and he's totally awake,

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and he's a good friend, and I am just very, very blessed to know him.

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So we're in the phase of the episode where Alex is just really excited associating himself

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with Tucker.

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Yes.

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You know?

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And I think that's fun.

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Yes.

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It is nice, because for a narcissist, this is where they get to convince you that they

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care about you, as opposed to puffing you up in order to make their association with

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you, even more important.

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Sure.

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And then it will twist.

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Exactly.

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At a certain point.

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It always does.

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And towards the end of this episode, I think Alex gets the other side of these feelings.

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There we go.

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But for now, it's kind of like, I'm proud to be friends with him.

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Of course.

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I don't give a fuck about the establishment.

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Right.

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Right, right, right.

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I want to be ride or die with cat turd.

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Yep.

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You know?

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These are the people who matter.

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Man, we're just going to live like this till we die.

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Yep.

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It's good feelings right now.

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Yeah.

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That's what I'm saying.

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I like it.

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And part of that is because Tucker is able to save Alex's children, apparently.

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Okay.

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My wealth-

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Does he have them?

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Is my children, and the future.

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And people like Tucker Carlson have the best chance of saving me and my children.

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So Tucker Carlson is mine.

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He belongs to me.

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And he belongs to you.

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And I belong to you.

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Do you understand that?

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These people hate us because they know we're good.

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We're decent.

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We're not perfect.

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But dammit, we're not out to hurt people, and we believe in humanity.

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I've played this clip 15 times, probably, but I want to play it again.

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Pull Up, There Will Be Blood, the clip where the oil man explains to his cousin, he learns

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as his cousin, kills him later, that he has a competition in him.

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Spoilers.

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He doesn't like to see other people do well, including their families.

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I don't like other people to have milkshakes.

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He doesn't like to see other people do well.

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He doesn't.

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What a great description of There Will Be Blood.

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He doesn't like to see other people do well.

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He's like the globalist that way.

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That always reminds me of my favorite Paul F. Tumpkins story about that, because he was

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in There Will Be Blood on the other side, and he's just like, and a lot of people think

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he's a very intense person, and he's not.

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He's not very intense at all.

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He's the most intense person who has ever lived.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Fucking Day Lewis.

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Daniel Day Lewis.

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Doesn't like to see other people do well.

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It's been a while since I've seen that movie.

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There was a couple other takeaways that I had.

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I think watching him beat a man to death with a bowling pin.

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Didn't want to see him do well.

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Didn't want to see him do well.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, Tucker is mine.

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Yeah, that hit fast.

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I do like how he had to be like, he's yours.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I think he was like, oh, I got to course correct this thing.

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This might be a little too weird.

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Tucker might hear this.

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Yeah.

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So after the clip, he comes back, and this idea of the globalists are like Nathaniel

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Longview.

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Right.

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Is that his name?

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Nathaniel?

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Nathaniel?

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Plainview.

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Plainview.

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Yeah.

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The globalists are like him because they don't want to see people do well, and that's why

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they kill us.

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Sure.

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With vaccines.

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All right.

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They want us dead.

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That's not hyperbole.

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That's not hype.

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That's real.

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They want you dead, dead, dead, dead.

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I have a stack of mainstream news and new major scientific studies that it's over 20

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million dead from the shots, and cancer is the highest ever recorded shooting straight

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up.

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Straight up.

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All the young people are all having heart attacks, and they're all getting cancer now.

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We don't know what's happening, and they got billboards and TV shows and public service

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announcements about it murdering us.

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Yeah.

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And people tune in.

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You'll blend back years ago.

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He goes, I tune into that Alex Jones, and he's scary.

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Buddy, I ain't scary.

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I'm just the light pointing at what's scary.

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I'm just the mirror holding up to society.

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I am the light pointing at what's scary.

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Flashlight.

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Yeah.

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So that stuff isn't true.

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Cancer rates in the U.S. are fairly steady as a whole over the past years, but they're

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way down from the early 90s, and so are death rates from cancer.

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One area that is of particular concern is data has come out showing that the number

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of people around the world under 50 who get cancer has gone up 80% in the last 30 years.

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This is worrying, and researchers have a number of explanations for it involving increased

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rates of obesity and alcohol and tobacco use.

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What no one thinks is the COVID vaccine started killing people in the 90s, but I guess that's

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Alex's idea.

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No, no, no.

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It's more like being alive in American society causes cancer a lot faster than most people.

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Well, and one thing that people have pointed out in some of the articles that I was reading

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was that as we've become better able to treat many cancers, people have taken prevention

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a little bit less seriously, and that can be a part of the dynamic.

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I think it's probably a constellation of different causes that are affecting things.

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So this 20 million dead from COVID vaccine number, that's something that's been floating

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around since at least 2022.

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It was wrong then, and it's still wrong.

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By October 2023, the Epoch Times had found a slightly new version of bad math, and they

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reported that it was 17 million dead, which should have been great news for the conspiracy

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crowd.

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I was going to say.

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Three million less dead.

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I was going to say, that's exciting.

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The numbers have been revised downward, we're on a better trend.

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But now I guess Alex has a bag of 20 million.

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Ooh.

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Can't imagine what dumb substack he's getting that from.

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But you see there, there's something that's so fascinating about him in this dynamic of

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like, I've got a stack of mainstream media articles and studies.

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You decry education in the mainstream media all the time, yet you need their credibility

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in these subtle ways.

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It's not even something that his audience is thinking about, but Alex says that because

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he knows if he's just like, some dumb shit wrote this on his blog, they wouldn't take

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it seriously.

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Even Alex's audience would be like, I don't know.

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But now these other outlets that I fucking hate and print nothing but trash, they have

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standards, so I'll take that seriously.

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Yeah, that is such an interesting point, because if you step back and take a look at what kind

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of all that really means is that somehow, people who do not trust doctors, trust doctors.

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You know?

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It's like, I will not trust doctors, but I won't believe something unless a doctor has

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approved it.

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Which is...

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Well, it's because they don't actually have that distrust.

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They have the air of that distrust, or whatever.

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They have the brand of that distrust that's been sold to them by people like Alex.

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But when the rubber meets the road and you're in the foxhole, there is no, not that there

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is none, but there are many less.

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It's also kind of, and it's one of the things that is, it's one of those like, if you want

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to stop the fake problem, you kind of have to deal with the real problem.

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And that is, when you have such a two-tiered or multi-tiered healthcare system, then it's

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a reasonable thought to go, well, I don't want that doctor, I want the good shit.

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Because there is the good shit.

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Well, in some cases there is, in some cases there isn't, and that's part of the problem.

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But the totality of our viewpoint towards medicine is that there's somebody who's getting

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the good shit.

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There's always a rich person who's getting better.

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Totally.

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Alex's clean vaccines.

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Why did Magic Johnson live, you know, all of those things.

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It's fertile ground to be exploited.

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Yeah.

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And if you don't want people to go like, oh, well, we can't trust that doctor, we should

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go to a better one.

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You kind of have to make it then.

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Yeah.

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It's not going to solve the problem itself, but it would contribute quite a bit to taking

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away some of the influences.

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So, look, we've got some really serious stuff going on.

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And so Alex keeps it serious.

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Of course.

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By complaining about a women's SWAT team.

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I saw this a couple days ago, and there was so much news I didn't get to it.

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But you know, it really is important, because when I posted this on, or I linked to it on

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my ex-account, it already had like 15 million views, it got a couple more million views,

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and I noticed the left was in there defending it, saying, you're bigoted, Mr. Jones, against

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women because you're making fun of this.

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You're a bigoted one.

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Mr. Jones.

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It's like saying a man can have a baby.

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Junior, Arnold did it.

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It's ridiculous.

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Done.

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Next.

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So, footage from Dubai shows women from Chile's highest tier police task force attempting

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to complete in the 2024 UAE SWAT challenge, where they embarrassingly struggled to complete

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the first obstacle alone, and couldn't do it.

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Okay.

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Now, there are similar obstacle courses that, you know, you can go pay to go on, and I'm

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not in great shape myself, but I can complete these courses.

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Go.

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Go now.

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Now.

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Right now.

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I will get a camera.

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I will pay any amount of money.

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Let's go.

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Now.

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Now.

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In the car.

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Now.

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I mean, I can still hike 15 miles, 20 miles.

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Let's go do that, then.

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Now.

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Certainly good at the type of stuff SWAT teams do.

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But watching the women compared to the men was like watching a BB gun versus a.50 caliber

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rifle.

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And Hollywood puts out all these movies and this culture where always the toughest person's

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a woman, and she can beat up 20 men, and the women are all in charge.

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And all that is to do, all that's designed to do is break down civilization and society.

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It is.

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It's not to empower women.

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All of it.

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It is to break up the family.

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The whole thing.

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It is to confuse roles.

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It is to make women think they can have these type of careers.

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What?

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So that they don't go out and have a family, and so that they'll be part of the system.

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Interesting.

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Then it sabotages the human system, and they can bring in AI and robots to replace the

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post-industrial collapsed human society.

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That's their official plan.

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Oh.

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That's their turn.

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What I find so fascinating about that is that that last turn is interesting because it is

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more like a just bizarro version of the real plan.

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It's not of his real society.

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Everybody has roles.

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Women are specific to do this only.

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All of these things.

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And the idea of women having any agency at all is a disruption completely to his society.

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And it is like you can wrap it up in, oh, they're trying to kill everybody and destroy

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the family or anything.

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But in reality, what he's actually saying is just straight up, women are subjugated

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to me.

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And the threat, it's being embodied here as AI taking over and destroying the world, is

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almost an expression of the existential threat to his worldview that autonomy has.

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Women doing whatever they feel that they want to do is a threat.

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It is reasonable for him to view it as a threat because it is a threat to his existential

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point, but his existential thing shouldn't exist, so that's on him.

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He could just change his mind.

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It could.

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So the UAE recently held the SWAT challenge for 2024, and one of the categories is a female

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SWAT team challenge.

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I'm sorry, the United Arab Emirates invited the female SWAT team challenge thing.

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Well there's also men and tower challenges.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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And then they all were like, this is a good idea.

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It did not seem like every country had representatives, but there were a fair number.

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So the Chilean team had a rough start on their run on day three, which started with everyone

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having to get across a zip line over water.

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They botched that and didn't have enough momentum to get across, and a video that made the rounds

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on the predictable right wing social media accounts, particularly ones that are obsessed

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with rigid ideas about gender.

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Oh man, those are so embarrassing.

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I watched somebody get stuck on a zip line.

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It hurts.

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It sucks.

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So I went and I watched some more of the event, and it's glaring how cherry picked this is.

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The teams from Abu Dhabi and Thailand are great on the course, so one wonders why these

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people didn't include them in the conversation.

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The reality of this is that there's a competition, and some teams were good and some were less

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good.

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Interesting.

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It serves the interest of folks like Libs of TikTok, who are one of the accounts who

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posted this, to show only the women doing poorly, because this reinforces the idea that

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they have about gender roles.

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Being on a SWAT team is a traditionally masculine role in their mind, so they need to present

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evidence that makes it appear that women cannot do that stuff.

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They just aren't meant to.

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It's nature.

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If they presented the Chilean team in context, which is to say that they had a bad run but

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the other teams in the competition were great, then this can't really be used for their propaganda.

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You need to give the impression that all of the competition was just inept, because that

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comports to your worldview, whereas reality doesn't.

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In order to serve your ultimate propaganda goals, it's necessary to present a distorted

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version of the real world and insist that you're the only one showing the truth.

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It's a pathetic charade, and I guess Alex saw someone posting this on social media and

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he wasn't curious at all about what else is going on in this competition.

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Alex wasn't curious, because the propaganda narrative that this clip was presented in

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comports to his views as well.

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He sees something that affirms a position he has, so it doesn't matter if it depicts

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reality.

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Alex has no interest in the second step, past seeing a meme to determine if there's more

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context, because that would ruin the misogynist fun for him.

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That's a good way to spend your time.

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Good episode.

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I always, you know, there are those posts, I always like a good post, where it's like

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a picture of a dog doing something, and then it's like, thousands of years ago, hey, I'll

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just go hang out with this human, what's the worst that could happen?

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And then the dogs are subjugated, you know, like that, right?

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Man, slave catchers, turned into SWAT team people at the United Arab Emirates.

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That's a surprise!

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That is a fucking evolution, I'll tell you that.

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Some of the stuff is pretty impressive, though.

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I believe it!

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In terms of getting over obstacles, and the sharp shooting.

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Hey, listen!

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I mean, in practice, it's kind of scary how efficient some of the folks are.

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I mean, the problem that I have with it is that none of that shit should exist, period,

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and yet somehow people are turning it into a misogynistic problem, as opposed to a none

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of that shit should exist problem!

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Well, that is an interesting take.

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I mean, I think, I think that- The United Arab Emirates shouldn't exist?

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Well, hold on now.

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Look- Like, let's go way back!

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That is, well, let's put a pin in that.

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Sure, sure, sure.

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There's an interesting element that Alex should probably be more scared of the police state

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implications of this than he should be about with it being in a SWAT team.

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Are you kidding me?

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SWAT teams are traveling from around the world to share?

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Shouldn't you be mad that there are even- Isn't this whole thing like the militarization

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of police is evil and all that?

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Totally!

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I guess not.

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Shouldn't you be bad that the United Arab Emirates are hosting cops?

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Maybe, maybe.

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To share information with other cops?

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I don't know if they're sharing information, they're competing.

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Yeah, well, that's a form of sharing information.

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I think that they have a vested interest in not sharing information.

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Let me tell you something.

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I've watched a lot of anime, fighting is sharing information.

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It's true, you get XP.

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So Alex talks about this for a long time.

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I believe that.

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And at one point he does even get into playing Yakety Sax over it.

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Well, that's just great.

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Or maybe the Benny Hill theme, or is that the same thing?

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Uh, it is the same thing.

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Yeah.

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Duh duh dwee duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh

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Duh duh duh dwee duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh

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Shows the women probably charging out and then getting the first obstacle

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Which one woman made it through?

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the first Laurel and Hardy or Three Stooges

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Episode I mean help just just see it for yourself for radio listeners. I'll give you a play-by-play

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Play

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Here come the women charging up five ladies already up to a bad start involved

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In the ues what challenge this year and they round the little trolley Belarus zip lines Thailand, Chile

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a chance from the Emirates one of them makes it across

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And the others fall more

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The first one to get wet in the ice bath today this goes on and on and

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Well, they are stuck in the middle of that zipline

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So the leader goes back and try to save them. That's how it works

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Are you mad about that line and do it again and currently?

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Chile

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have

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Three team members stranded. They don't even know how to rock their body and move forward with their hands of that ice bath

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Thankfully the water will be a little bit warmer than it was I mean on this morning

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I did this a few years ago my kids almost my fat ass could do this. I

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Was sure the next day just goes to show you how how important momentum is it's true

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Oh three team members in the drink so well and then all up in the drink

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She's got some nice childbearing hips though

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She I swear to God I swear to God somebody hit him with a baseball bat fucking hell. Yeah, fucking hell

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Yeah, pretty gross well gross and that's not play-by-play. He said he was doing play-by-play. That's color. Yep

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That's no good, it's disgusting color so

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Stacy King would not be happy with that. Yes. I feel like that was maybe arguably long

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I would say so yes a clip to play but I want to stress like he's he's playing a long bit of this

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He's good. It goes on this is I mean, honestly it is kind of amazing that this is a thing

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I understand the internet and how we in the competition or no

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The whole right wing is doing this. Yeah. Yeah, like I

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Understand how the internet works and people do this, but I mean man if you want to watch

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Anybody of any gender fail at anything? It's there sure go watch hole in the wall

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I mean, yeah

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It's like I can't imagine watching anyone I fail at a competition and being like well this means something

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I've watched so many people fall into water something because they bounced off something some things are fucking hard

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It's what it is and like this zipline is not at like an angle that would be conducive

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You have to like really push yourself. Yeah, it's it seems like something that could be failed

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Although the other teams do it fine. There is no

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Conclusion to draw from any of these competition reality shows or things like this or anything other than wow

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That person is good at a very specific thing to do

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Sure, or wow, that person is not good at a very specific person's great at getting in a hole in a wall. No other

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Qualifications or things learned right? Yeah, but we should probably talk about this some more. Yeah, probably

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how about the women just identify that they won the

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The games just say we identify as the first-place winners. I just give them of course you watch the film of the man

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We should probably pull that up. I saw some of it. They're just charging through it like it's nothing

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But you want to see him fell some more you want this just to keep going on so they finally just give up

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So that's the false reality they want us to sit here and believe in

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It's I'm sorry inferior the the other side that women can go down there

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Is the false reality not designed for it?

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They're not designed for zip line women in a certain percentage point at the top that are incredible and can compete with some men. Yes

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But that is a very very small percentage of women and then they can't compete against the best men Wow

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They can just compete against mediocre men

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Okay

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Yep, the best women can compete against mediocre man

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Congratulations fine fine

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So why won't Alex talk about the other teams that kick that courses ass?

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I would like to know that maybe it's because it runs counter to his argument about gender norms being absolute

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Maybe because he just saw some shithead post this on social media and then never even considered watching any more of it to learn more

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That does sound right in that clip. He does some untrue things though

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He says some untrue things for one the men's competition was on a different course and Alex didn't watch any of that fair

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Second the Chilean women's team doesn't give up

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They keep trying and they eventually get across the zipline and they finish out the competition

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They lost but they did what every coach says is the most important thing

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They didn't give up and there's something to be proud of but that they Jamaican bobsled team. Absolutely

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Yep, and again the existence and performance of the other women's teams in this

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It really destroys the argument that Alex is making even if he were aware of the full picture

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He would just still pretend that those other teams don't exist because that's a critical part of upholding this misogynist worldview

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You have to point at this failure as being indicative of all the team. Yeah

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You need that illusion in order to prop up your reality. Yeah, it's

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Disgraceful. Yeah, it does like the reaction to this the whole thing

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like every part of this makes me feel like either I am a complete and utter insane person because

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That they are women period is so far down my list of things that I think about

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Whatever you tell me that there's a competition

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It's not and it's not even like the that stuff it's just like that's not what I would think of

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That's so crazy to me that your first thought watching that it's not even it doesn't even rank. It's not even on the list

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Oh between their legs. That's what your thought. That's what you thought. Mmm say yep, but amen

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That was the way it was presented on social media and that's where Alex gets all of his information from and that's what he is

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He's just after show for dumb shitheads on Twitter. Yeah. Yeah, so we get back to

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less important issues like Tucker I

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Don't know what to do with this world. I don't either. Yeah, Tucker Carlson now in Ukraine's kill list

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for interviewing Putin

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Europe's

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European ally I'm sorry Biden has sent hundreds of millions of dollars to us openly

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Targeting the lives of American citizens for simply asking questions

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Well, yeah, that's what the Democrats want to do here

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Her Carlson is now included on Ukraine's kill list in response to interviewing Russian president, Vladimir Putin

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7 o'clock central and

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By the way, I'm just gonna announce this now

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I'm doing a special

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emergency

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Broadcast Tucker wants this free into the world

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so as soon as the interview goes live tomorrow night at

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7 central 8 Eastern

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we will air the interview and

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Then we will have commentary after

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So I'll go live at

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630 tomorrow night

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Right after the war room and

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Then I will give some commentary. I will stream it out on our network in our system

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we will air the Putin interview and

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Then we will take questions and comments afterwards because this is historic and Tucker Carlson's risk his life

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The kill list is believed to be the product of the Ukraine Center for countering this information appears to have added Carlson

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Tuesday shortly after he confirmed securing interview with Putin sure

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What pro-democracy folks they are the Ukraine kill list was created by President Zelensky himself

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With the backing the American CIA and NATO itself

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So I'm sure that Tucker is really excited about the idea of Alex trying to funnel off some of the views from his video

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Oh, yeah in fairness. It probably won't make that much of a difference

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But if I were Tucker, I would be pissed I would not like this kind of behavior

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Another thing I wouldn't be too happy about is being added to a kill list

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The good news is that Alex is just making up most of that. The reality is that Tucker was added to the Mirotkovits

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List which is a list of enemies of Ukraine. Yeah, it's not run by the government Zelensky didn't start it

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And it's not a kill list

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It is very possible though to have concerns about the list and the site itself and the way that they do publish personal data

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Of some of the people that they list but what Alex in his complaints what he's doing here is a farce

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Yeah

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This is a great example of a time that Alex could actually stake a position that rational people might agree with him on

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But he can't deal with reality without adding layers of sensationalism on to it

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Alex doesn't want to deal with valid criticism of this site as it exists because that's hard

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There's a lot of detail to it and you have to be specific about your points, which then people can disagree with

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It's so much easier to just yell that Zelensky started a kill list and Tucker's on it now

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Your work is done there. And since the root of this tree is so disconnected from reality. It doesn't matter where the branches grow

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Yeah, nothing's nothing's real here. I

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Wonder I ask the question is Himmler an enemy combatant

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Heinrich Himmler, you know what I mean?

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Yeah, yeah sure, okay, well then yeah, it's fine if Ukraine kills Tucker

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well

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Look

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I don't I don't want to get into the weeds of what

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Ukraine can and can't do in the context of war

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I mean, I'm more interested in the specific claim that Alex made right and he's wrong that I agree with okay

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But it would be fancy. It would be fine if he was okay, like it shouldn't I mean, yeah

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If you get into a war, you shouldn't be unhappy if people are like, well, we're gonna kill you now

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You're in a war and if you talk to Putin and then put it out for the world to see

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Then you have just entered the war as Putin's propaganda director. I I would say that I am against

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War in general as a whole but we do have to accept the reality that it does exist

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Yeah, and it does exist currently in Ukraine and Russia for sure. Yeah

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Tucker for whatever he wants to pretend he's doing is taking a step into that

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Yep, by interviewing the head of state of the aggressive belligerent party in a way that is not

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Journalistic. Yeah now granted. We haven't seen it. So, you know, it's hard to make specific

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Like critiques of what he does and doesn't do sure

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But it would be ludicrous to not look at his mo look at his history the way he's conducted interviews in the past

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And think that he's going to do a like a real frost nixon type

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Fuck out of here

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Adversarial debate and I saw a review if he did we wouldn't see it

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Anything that comes out with Putin in it is under control Putin wouldn't agree to do it. It wasn't very well understood

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That's why he's not accepting all the requests from other media outlets

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And if he didn't and if he didn't like the results, it wouldn't have been released, right? That's it. Yes final edit. Absolutely

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It's that simple. Yeah. So again that is entering the war

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I don't think there's any other way of putting it in in some not gonna join the war in some sense

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you could you could say that it's inserting yourself into a

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far different world than

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You have any business being in I mean, I mean, I don't I don't know if I'm if I'm taking a job from Hitler

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I'm gonna have to assume that I'm in the war if we're in the middle of a war

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Mmm, if Hitler offers me a job I say guess what? No, thank you

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I don't want to be part of the war or I say now I am part of the war

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That's the war part right when the head of the war starts a war and then you take a job for that person

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Then you're in the war. Yeah, I think I think that there are some

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Distinctions between taking a job that runs consistently and doing a job. You know what I'm right

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I do think there's some distinction during a war

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I don't know. It's I don't I don't think that it's enough to like make him a full-on

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Combatant or something like that. Sure. Sure. But I do I do think that he's entered an arena that is not just like

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Dumb shithead propaganda journalism to a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no if if listen, I doubt Ukraine again

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He's not on a Ukrainian list. No, right

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Yes, but it's not a kill sure sure. Yeah or like an official the president

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Yeah, you know, he's not an enemy of the state

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I'm sure Zelensky is not thrilled with him totally not but if if like

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You know, so they're not gonna care, you know, they're not like going after him or anything

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But if a drone strike hits Tucker Carlson's house, they wouldn't be mad about it and I would be like well

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Then you shouldn't have interviewed Putin. It's that simple. Uh

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Sure. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, I don't I mean like it's we're so past the point of like it being

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He actually did it so fucking

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Knows man. Yeah, it's on him. Whatever happens is on him. Not on me

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It's messy. Yeah, so Putin is gonna talk to Tucker. He's gonna get into some

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Conspiracy shit obviously. Yeah, obviously I want to talk about what you can really expect in this Tucker interview. That's got them

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so

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scared so get the clip of

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Putin please a

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Year and a half ago saying he's been warning the world about us creating biological weapons in Ukraine and other areas

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And if of course that's come out that that is true

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Victoria Newland who really is the president of the dictatorship there. Sorry, but is the

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penis piano player

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Zelensky and

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She came out

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Front of Congress other admitted. Yeah, we have bioweapon labs there months after they denied it

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So how would you like it if Russia was in Canada building bioweapon lamps?

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Again I'm just saying

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Here's Putin. So yeah, no shit Putin's gonna talk to talk about the bioweapon lab bullshit

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Yeah

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Yeah

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The goal is to spread his false justifications for invading Ukraine to a wide audience through the conduit of a useful or

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Collaborating interviewer Tucker was a huge part of spreading that false talking point in the United States

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Which is a huge part of why Putin chose to talk to Tucker and not somebody who would push back on this shit

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There weren't bioweapon labs in Ukraine and Victoria Newland isn't the dictator of Ukraine

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We've been over this a bunch all save getting back into it for Tucker's actual interview

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But the point is of course, this is something that's gonna come up

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Yeah, the goal of the interview is to sway Tucker's audience to the idea that Putin is the good guy in the war

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That's his consistent position on air Tucker's as well as Alex's and a bunch of their other right-wing buddies

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The thing I just can't take is that these folks are so clearly

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Deeply in support of Putin but won't just come out and say it because they know that staking that position openly could be risky

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They have to hedge all their positions and constantly arguing for why they support Putin but then saying that they don't support either side

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It would be like me constantly saying two plus two and then you being like, oh you mean four and me being like

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Oh, no, no, no not four

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But what about three plus one and then you naturally say you're talking about four and I would act all shocked and say can a

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Guy not say eight divided by two. It's an annoying game these fucks play and I wish they've just come out and be honest about their

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Position. Yeah, they won't though because they know deep down that Putin is a really bad dude and they want plausible deniability in case they

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Ever get called to the carpet for for supporting him

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They want the benefits of this position and you know what you can get from it, but they want to dodge any kind of risk

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean that is that is kind of the that is the point that is the point of

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euphemism entirely and

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Why our society is fucking stupid about it is insane

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I don't get it like you can say the exact same thing. Ah, but I didn't say it with those words. So

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No accountability for me. Mm-hmm

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And I'm not even sure what kind of direct accountability there is at the present time or even maybe in the future to being like

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I support Putin. Yeah, I don't know what there is

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I don't think there is that much of a consequence outside of stigma and people looking at you as it's genuinely

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a

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Cold war shit. I think I think it really is like if we say that we're 100% pro-russia

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Then we are negating all of our Cold War bullshit

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It may be but the reality of the positions that they put forth and Alex is like very clear about is that the United States?

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Has been captured by these demonic globalist entities that aren't the United States and he supports the Russia over the United States, right?

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But I heard love it or leave it for the first 20 years of my fucking life

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So well, you know, yeah, these people are I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you that might be a different breed of right-wing than Alex

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No, I'm not very straightforward in their thinking true

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but I think a lot of those love it or leave it types were you're talking about people who were like if you don't support the

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Iraq war and stuff and maybe Alex would have had a more slightly different position back then maybe but were it happening now

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I love it early Trump was the president and he would support the Iraq war. Yeah, absolutely man. Yeah

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Anyway, look the media. Yeah media. What about the media? What did they do this time? They are not congratulating Tucker

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First sure, they're not

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That we are so used to tyranny now

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That where is the media? We're a journalist standing up for their own profession

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Saying this is a long tradition. And this is a good thing. He's done regardless. We should hear from all sides

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Remember Osama bin Laden number 9-11, they played all the videos of him talking about why he did it

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Of course, he was really CIA putting out propaganda

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There was what really happened if you know the whole story, but what the whole body goes interview Saddam Hussein. I told him a knee

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Hitler was interviewed during World War two

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By Hitler speeches and newsreels at the movie theaters people wanted you know have Americans like here's what Hitler's saying

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That's a little

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Got a big problem and you can point at Russia and say they've got some controls of censorship, too

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But the West is far surpassed that now and can't point their finger at Russia and say oh look

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You know you you're the bad guys

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I think that if somebody who is deeply sympathetic to Hitler or bin Laden did an interview that was clearly meant to ingratiate him to

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Their audience people would have a problem with that. There is no deficiency of hearing what Putin's saying

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You can find his speeches and plenty of declarations. He's made so it's no secret what he's about

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It's abundantly clear from Tucker's career as well as his past interviews that he's not interested in finding out more about Putin's position from a journalistic

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Perspective he's there to give Putin a non-threatening platform to push his narratives to Tucker's audience

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That's his role, and he knows it and Alex even knows it

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There's some shameful justification stuff going on here and Alex can't even get through without recognizing that the press isn't free in Russia

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Yeah, he can't even he can't even finish his sentence without having to like okay. Not as bad as here though

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I mean yeah the idea

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like

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The history of the World War two is in American myth great

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But I mean at the end of the day everybody wasn't super on board until the first

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concentration camp pictures and shit came out then everybody was like fuck this has got to stop and

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Journalists were deliberately keeping that information or but no I mean Hitler was deliberately

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Leaking information to journalists that was not that yeah for that purpose like if you interviewed Hitler you could not get a

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Adversarial interview where he's like well obviously we have the concentration camps whoops. That's yeah. Yeah, that's my point

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I'm making it very poorly, but you understand what I'm trying to say. Yeah, you wouldn't you wouldn't get

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But but even still there is there is like a version of an interview that I could see being you know a responsible thing

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There's a pretty extreme example. You can't get I mean listen at a certain point

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There are extreme outliers that we all go. Let's not apply this to other scenarios. Here's where we are right now

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Fuck Putin, then we'll move on to the next one because here's here's the situation that you really have to wrestle with if you're in

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The position of being a journalist in this in this spot sure you have to ask yourself

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What do I get out of this not just personally, but what is learned by this?

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What is gained by this in terms of reporting sure what am I possibly going to be able to learn?

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What kind of questions need to be asked that kind of thing?

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And secondarily you have to ask why is this person doing an interview with me sure what do they get out of it?

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What is what is their agenda in doing this interview?

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And if you can't really answer the first question and the other one is a question you don't want to ask yeah

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You shouldn't do that interview see I find that fascinating because I do think those are great points

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No, I agree. I just never occurred to me what I because to me like

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Once you go into war space then the only two things matter

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Making the war longer and killing more people like that's that to me is

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Does this make the war shorter, or does it kill fewer people those are my choices once I enter war?

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Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, so if you are giving him an interview to me

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There's no area of Tucker giving Putin an interview that doesn't

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Ultimately wind up in longer war and more dead

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I agree with you in the real world right but in Tucker world

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They're they're kind of understanding of things is the only way for the war to end is for Ukraine to submit and right

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Fighting back totally so from Tucker's viewpoint if you're applying your standard

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Nothing that he's doing is lengthening the war I would know what I mean

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I don't I don't think he's correct, but from his vantage point you can easily see that being like oh, no

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I'm actually you know trying to

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Shorten the war by by by getting the word out about this noble person's purpose

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I suppose you could believe that I think it would be hard, but I mean hey if you've if you have been paid millions upon

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Millions of dollars I find that you get it's a lot easier to believe all kinds of stuff if you're someone who's excited to interview

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Cat turd yeah, I've seen people who get paid millions of dollars believe all kinds of crazy things sure

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Yeah, speaking someone who believes some crazy stuff Alex has a guest

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Well, she's a great talk show host and filmmaker been a guest on my show many times years ago

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And we've been working with her some now on

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Documentaries and more very very exciting lady and she was coming into town to talk to us about filmmaking

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And I said why don't you just come on the show and so she was here yesterday

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But then I had an emergency come up and I had to leave in the fourth hour

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She stayed over even though she was flying out last night to be with us. She's at Lauren whiskey de on

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X as well, and it's great to be here with you. Thank you so much for having me. It's a complete honor

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Well, it's an honor to have you. I've never met you in person till yesterday. Oh wow she ran for Congress unsuccessfully

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unsuccessful

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She's an interesting fun choice for Alex to have as a guest on today

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She has a past in promoting QAnon sure she's a quote self-proclaimed flat earther according to the New York Times

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All right, and Putin supporter a big-time Putin supporter good. So she'll fit right in good good guest for today hmm

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Good stuff and Putin support and a flat earther that means I could push them both off the edge. It's true. That'd be fun

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Unfortunately to do that they would have to be right yeah

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And then you have to call into question hey if I get to do that I will give up all my beliefs

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I think I think you'd have to go ground up

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Rewrite a lot of stuff. I think that'd be I'd be fine with that. I'll make that sacrifice so Tucker

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Yeah, used to work at Fox News. You know that I have heard that in the past. You know why you got fired uh

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No, he was getting too close to the truth. That sounds true

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You know remember when they kicked Tucker off of Fox News in the first place

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it was because of his coverage of the Ukraine war he was getting too close and

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They spied on him they ended up

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Um

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Tacking into his phone reading his text messages reporting him the one thing that they did not want to happen was this interview

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and that's because

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Putin knows where all the bodies are buried. He knows about these buried weapons labs. He knows about the truth about the war

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While Zelensky's been busy doing his rounds for Vogue magazine begging for money

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Putin has

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Practiced extreme restraint during this war and that's something that I think people are going to learn with this Tucker interview tonight

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Very well said very well said the barry body er is violet beauregard. Yeah, yeah

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Thank you. No problem. So she had a fun story there

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I guess we're just gonna ignore the part where Tucker was part of a lawsuit from Dominion that cost Fox

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787 million dollars no

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I'm sure they fired him because he was getting too close to uncovering the truth that Putin is pretty cool

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Well, according to some people they fired him just cuz he was so much of an asshole

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I'm sure that also plays a role but seven hundred seventy eight

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787 million dollars ain't nothing to sneeze. Yeah, that's true. So Lauren gets it though

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She understands the Tucker's interview is gonna be a puff piece meant to sway people to support Putin

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She already supports Putin though. So it's a good thing as far as she's concerned

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Yeah, but but yeah, she knows where the body's buried all go fuck yourself. Yeah

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Fuck out of here. Yeah, I am I am always shocked at how many people

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Will be will find a way to convince themselves that it's all right to go to somebody else's house and murder them, you know

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As long as it's the United States doing that, you know or or

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To destroy Tucker Carlson's house. It's amazing. No, it is it is kind of yeah, but I'm not going

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I'm not gonna hop a flight. See that's the difference

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This her her perspective is is fun. Yeah in a novel. It's not

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Connected to reality but it's fun in the in terms of making a brash new our story about a brave reporter

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She did leave out all the calling his boss a c-word and such she did leave that out that was suspicious

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There's some stuff that's other kind of a size text messages where he called his boss the c-word Allah

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Huh, oh and weren't those text messages because of the lawsuit it could be because of the lawsuit that they got his text message

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It's almost like he had to give them text message. He wasn't being spied on. Hmm. No, man

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He was too close to the truth. That sounds true

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now Tucker his he ended up losing his job with Fox News because he was covering the war so fairly and

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The freak out Russia and gets the interview himself because we're fair and balanced

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We get whatever the regime the military industrial complex wants us to know and

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It's a shame because we basically have government ran media

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We don't get to know the truth, but Tucker going directly to Putin someone who empowered the church government country

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I he brought the church up right next to him and empowered Christians in his country and he and Zelensky's man the Orthodox Church

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Yes, and then Zelensky on the other hand is Russian Orthodox

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Heavily aligned with Russia

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To Russia, maybe not religion at all evident. It's very evident while Zelensky has a transgender spokesperson

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Tell it lecturing us on the evils of Putin Putin is calling America like calling out America for

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Well, remember when he called us, I think the Great Satan or something. We were

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What he said was the American people we do it bombarding what do we do a family evil? Yes, they're trying to destroy their family

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Yes. Yeah, and he said basically that the United States is run by pedophiles, which is true. Yes, and it's true

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These people just support Putin. They just want a leader like food. It's not that complicated

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Just say you don't like that people talk a lot here, right? You don't like that people are different than yeah

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Yeah, so you can be opposed to Zelensky's actions in relations to the Russian Orthodox Church without then supporting Putin sure

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It is very possible

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Yeah

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Also if this is something that's so important to these people then they should really take issue with Putin's oppression of people's religious beliefs

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Like how Russian courts banned Jehovah's Witnesses in 2017 or how the state oppresses indigenous religions?

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Pretty consistently Oh what the US Commission on International Religious Freedoms report from 2021 listed Russia as a country of particular

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Concern which noted that even quote Protestant Christians are frequently fined for illegal missionary activity

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Yeah

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These people don't care about religious freedom

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What they care about is that they get the feeling that Putin wants to oppress the same people as them and they like that he's made

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Religion part of his brand they could give a shit about who or who doesn't oppress religious minorities

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It's just a good thing to include in your rationale for why you like the big strong man

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It's kind of a veneer of respectability that's added over your lust for oppressing the people you want oppressed. Yeah

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yeah, and it's frustrating because in the current state of

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things, you know

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What they want what they're describing what they're supporting in Putin. They know will not be here in its

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Same strength and form so they can be like, ah, it's so great that he does all of this horrifying shit

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Without ever actually having to feel the boot, you know, sure they get to have a wonderful

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fantastical time

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And be like, yeah, it's so great unless you're any of the people that I hate in Russia

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Mm-hmm, and it's not even great if you're you

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No, probably not

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It's it's it's a delusion, but whatever it's it's the way people view fascism is the same way

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They view past lives, you know, but nobody's ever like Derek everybody's all I was I was Cleopatra

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No, no in fascism. You're Derek. You're gonna get your ass beat every day word Eric. That is it. Yep. Yep

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So I think that you might get a sense listening this interview that Lauren is a bit more into Putin that even Alex kind of

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Thought boy, that's not good other countries used to respect us. I mean no matter what you respect Russia and their power structure

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well

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This is a lot bigger than Tucker's. I keep saying it's a lens through which we see everything and

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The fact that they're putting them on a kill list the fact that the EU's openly saying they want to sanction him and there

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Looks like they're moving forward with that and and that the left and right corporate media is attacking him for this

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It really shows how bad these people really are and what they would do to us if they could get away with it

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No, I keep saying that but that's I mean, they're not playing games here, right?

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Everybody respects Putin and Russia and the power structure man. They said no Volney to

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dude, this is

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It's a bit on the nose a bit bit too blunt, you know

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I mean it is like when I was growing up

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I remember cartoons and and everything was like the punishment was being sent to a Siberian work camp

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Right. That was the cartoonish punishment. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, it was the heightened beat

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It was the it was like oh that's the worst thing that could happen more scary than quicksand in the 90s

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Was a Siberian but close very close very close. Yeah, so Alex gets into talking about other

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Interviews. Yeah that Putin has done and I think he accidentally reveals why they're not doing those interviews anymore

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I've got a clip of Putin two years ago. He's being interviewed by NBC News. We'll play this in a moment and

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Two and a half years ago NBC interviewed Putin. It didn't go

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Well, that's why they've been trying to sabotage the Tucker interview that is coming out and and I love Tucker's crew know them

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Well, but they'll they love to wait on an interview and add clips and massage it and get it ready

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And I called him and I said, I'm sure they already knew to do this

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I'm not saying it was I did this but I put a video out too and I said you got to release this right now

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Because the longer you sit on it the more danger you're in because again

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It's a symbol of the globalist losing control and just like they blew up the Nord Stream pipeline

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To even though it demonized them to the world. They still wanted to say we're in charge

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It's like a woman trying to leave a guy that breaks her jar, you know, put cigarettes out on her

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They're trying to stop us from getting the car and driving away. Here's a Putin stopping NBC dead in their tracks

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I'll ask you to make just ask you a direct question. Did you order Alexei Navalny's assassination? I think

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Nushet can you see me? Of course not. We don't have this kind of habit

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Number two is I want to ask you did you order the

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Assassination of the woman who walked into the Congress and who was shot and killed by a policeman. Do you know that?

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Four hundred and fifty individuals were arrested after entering the Congress and they didn't go there to steal a laptop

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They came with political demands

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450 people have been detained

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They're looking at jail time between 15 and

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25 years and they came to the Congress with political demands

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Isn't that persecution for political opinions?

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So this is kind of a good encapsulation of why Putin chose Tucker or more to the point

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Didn't accept interview requests from other outlets like NBC

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Yeah, he knew those outlets wouldn't be hospitable to him pushing his version of the story. That's counter to reality

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It's really ironic that Alex is playing that clip because it pretty much demonstrates why people are upset about Tucker doing this interview

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Yeah, if he was going to do a hard-hitting

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Asking tough questions interview Putin wouldn't agree to it just like he hasn't agreed to the other requests. Yeah, but he's cotton

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Yeah, it's this is

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Nonsense. I you know, you think you think he's gonna ask about Navalny? It's sucky. No. No, I don't

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Why was it such a great idea to try and kill Navalny?

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Well, I mean why was it such a great idea for somebody completely unrelated to you and not affected by you

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Whatsoever with no influence at all. What is it like for people to think that you did this?

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Oh

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man, mm-hmm

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So Alex, here's that and of course Putin's talking about January 6th. Yeah, and so can you I I just

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That sucks that clip sucks for me. Yeah, it sucks so hard

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It sucks so hard in the same way that Elon Musk sucks so hard is that you have a nigh

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Infinite amount of power and you're a whiny little loser

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You're a whiny little baby your response to you have the power to murder the only guy who is standing against you in an election

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Whenever you want is to be like, well who killed Ashley Bennett? Was it you reporter? Was it you?

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Pansy wuss that is pathetic. That is fucking sad. Oh my god

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It is it is and I think that part of the reason that this is an inhospitable

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Unhospitable environment for him as an interview is that he does not come off strong. No that exchange

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He's a loser and I think that that is not the image

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he would like to cultivate no and he but he has to because if you if you rule by a

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Unceasing propaganda you can't suddenly tell the truth. Sure

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You just can't and that's why you need a guy like Tucker and that's why you can't go talk to somebody like that

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Yeah, so Alex like, you know, you got the idea from Putin talking about January 6th

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Yeah, he's maybe talk about January 6 a little

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They really tried to make us like our lives a living hell because they were scared of that uprising that happened on j6

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They do not want the people to rebel. Well, they're lucky we didn't they say that would they say that was our plan thing

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No, that was that was them setting us up. Imagine if a million people did show up with guns

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Yeah, it's true. And I'm not saying do that, but I'm just saying careful what they claims going on. Oh boy

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So I've noticed a shift in Alex's tone around January 6th lately

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There's so much playing defense and calling everything like an antifa deep state plot before but now the rhetoric is changing

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He's starting to talk more regularly about how things were supposed to be much worse like he did recently about Pelosi being kidnapped

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Yeah

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It's hard not to hear this as a veiled threat or at least

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Encouraging the audience to kind of think that way if we have to we can do a bigger January 6th where everyone's armed

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This isn't a surprise necessarily

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Alex has played out the January 6th the narrative and there's not much else you can really farm from it

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So you need to find a new angle to create tension around the topic

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There's a really fucked up way to go about it, but it's right in line with the way Alex operates

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Yeah, create this tension and it builds and built and you know

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There's a there's a election year this year. If you if you have January 6th being a result of losing the last election

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Yeah, you got to top it somehow you can't you know, that's like you can't go backwards. Well, I mean bad boy

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When the Supreme Court disqualifies Trump, that's gonna be a good day

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Yeah, that's gonna be fun stuff. I know they're hearing the case my favorite

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I think somebody made the best point which was so funny to me, which is just

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Trump said he was gonna be a dictator if you're on the Supreme Court

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You don't want a dictator you become you're infinitely powerful

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without a dictator

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Oh, oh, no, he put us in the Supreme Court and then we're not going to let him be president anymore

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That's so funny

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One day sure

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That's how dictators work. It's different. They get a day man. Just give me a taste have we considered

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considered how about and

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Stop me if you've heard this before. All right, once a year for 24 hours all crime is legal

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There's a series of documentaries about this shit. So Alex tells his his little version of what's happened in Ukraine

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Yeah, and he's off about a number of things. So they go in nine years ago with

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All the State Department money Soros goes off reads their carry on CNN and brags five years ago

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They ever threw it they start ethnically cleansing the Russians that are the majority population and then Putin says I'm gonna take

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Part of the East Social Security zone of you don't stop. He goes, okay fine

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I'll take Crimea first to show you five years ago or six years ago. Okay, that didn't convince you now

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I'm gonna do that really this is interesting

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Oh, he wants to invade that makes sense to you and they're bracing for war in Poland

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No evidence of that. No, absolutely not and so that yeah

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That's the that's the good version of things which is wildly inaccurate

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But it is fairly in line with like some of Putin's angles

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I am going to take your land as a warning, right?

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Yeah, what an insane person to even entertain that as a thought

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I'm gonna take some of your land because how because I will take all of it and I want you to know I'm serious

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Sorry, how dare you even pretend that you're going to stop unless you're stopped

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That's pathetic. No, it was warning fucking insane

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So Poland is not worried for no reason there have been provocations at the border as well as the Lithuanian border

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Sure thousands of Wagner group mercs

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They've shown up over at the border and Belarus flew helicopters into the airspace of Poland in a move that PBS described back in

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August as quote

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Provocational. Oh good

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the likelihood of an attack on Poland does seem low but it's not for no reason that leaders there might be

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Concerned a lot of this comes back to the Sowalki Gap, which we talked about on a recent episode

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Where there's a little bit of Russian territory called Kaliningrad. It's on the Baltic Sea

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Yeah, this area is separated from Belarus by the Sowalki Gap, which is a border

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It's the border between Lithuania and Poland

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Sure

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many people have seen this as a possible area that Putin could target and concerns about a deal with the

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Militarization of Kaliningrad as well as troops being sent to Belarus

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yeah, there are precursors there that you might see before trouble and that's the

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Grounds for what a lot of people are right are concerned about it's not no reason also that stuff Alex things just nonsense

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Yeah, yep

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I think there's really I mean narratively speaking and I'm writing this just for the satisfaction of you know

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Tying together storylines. Mm-hmm

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I'm gonna have to say the Fran the French are gonna conquer Russia

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I think that's what we need to like make all of European history up to this point make sense is France conquers

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Russia and then Britain takes over France everybody in France moves to Russia Britain takes over France

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Portugal goes away. Ooh, what about allowed to have Portugal it crazy plot twist. What's that Luxembourg takes over?

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Luxembourg Luxembourg is part of France

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As we learn from Alex. Yeah

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That's right shit's a mess Luxembourg France so Alex has some other stories that he has wrong

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Included the one about the Nord Stream. Sure when the Nord Stream pipeline

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Was blown up it was because they were trying to remove the option of Russian support

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It was you know

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They were providing natural gas to Germany and other countries and they they removed that

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Obstacle for them and then by the Russians. Yep, and then blame the Russians when obviously I mean

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It didn't make any sense for Russia. Well, I heard Scott's of witnesses. They came forward it was

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It was Navy divers. Now. Who is that Navy divers? Oh, yeah. Okay, so what we knew it was

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Oh, so, you know not Navy divers interesting. So we knew that I mean there was

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Obviously Ukrainian involvement in that however, you know, they're just puppets

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But no sigh hurts got the documents special operations is under congressional control

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The Navy SEALs, so they went to Panama and trained regular industrial Navy divers for it

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Yeah, that is shocking Putin hasn't practiced great restraint such a restrained man

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Yeah, she's doing a good job trying to roll with the narrative shift

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Yeah

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There are no documents that Seymour Hirsch was supposed to have got his story is entirely based on a single anonymous source who claims

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The divers from Panama blew up the Nord Stream. His work is really sloppy though

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Like one great example was pointed out by Politico quote

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The article certainly included some dubious claims not least that NATO Secretary General Jen Stoltenberg has quote

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cooperated with the American intelligence community since the Vietnam War

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Stoltenberg born in 1959 was 16 years old when the war ended a little sloppy

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Yeah, Alex also has some details wrong here because he's just taken the general headline of Hershey's story and then written his own

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Narrative. Yeah, for instance Alex adds in the documents because it sounds like so much stronger proof than a single anonymous source

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Yeah, that's that away

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Always have documents Hershey's work was on this was very sloppy and Alex's coverage of it is sloppy on top of itself

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But it doesn't matter. The goal is supporting Putin and presenting the story this way serves that end. Yeah, and so that's what's being done

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I

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cannot imagine

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Believing these things they just sound so stupid they do but you know

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There's a narrative thread to it and it and it's kind of exciting. I get I know I do like I get why it would be

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like I

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Get why it would be good like reality TV

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But the idea that you would believe I mean, I guess you know what I'm saying

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Like the idea that you would believe reality TV storylines are 100% true

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Hey now, you know, hey now like that kind of you like, you know, this is lies for your

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For your is it? Oh god, I

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Mean, I'm pretty invested on the reality of the traders

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So, yeah, I don't know yeah, we get it we've had enough of Lauren Witski though

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Yes, we have they talk about the border a little bit and I don't care don't so

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uh

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Alex coming back from this conversation. Sure gets a little bit into a weird headspace. Okay, but he comes back. He's got

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He's got a little twist in his narcissism. Okay, I was

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Walking back to the studio and I just thought about what am I supposed to say right now?

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You know, I've got all this news. I quit all this information in front of me take that but I'm not just here to cover news

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I'm here to really talk about the heart of the matter

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And I thought we'll just look in the mirror

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And

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Thought is hard to quantify you bet

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Thought is so complex so deep

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Connected to so many things and you're like, how do you say this?

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And so I was sitting here as the music started with Jimi Hendrix singing thinking how do I explain this?

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I thought well, maybe you shouldn't even say it maybe I'm like no

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It's not even that I mean it's huge but it's simple at the same time but also super deep like anything complex

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Hmm pass the joint. Yeah

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Here's the best way to say it we've already been conquered let's stop lying to ourselves we're not in a war we lost the war

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But if you're occupied by an enemy power the first thing you got to do is admit you're occupied

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So I don't say that to demoralize you or make you depressed. I say it because let's just admit we've been trained

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To put up with outrageous garbage

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I'm another word for it. Sure. I'm not gonna say it on the radio bullshit shit. Yeah, so

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I'm trying to explain this it's going great. You know, don't stop now. It's a sense of let it ride

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that we've let it go this far and then it's it's it's kind of sick if I just sit here and like chronicle this

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Like I'm doing a voiceover to a snuff film

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You can't look at the mirror man. Just sit here and fear porn cover the latest

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I really want to stop this

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And to do that

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We have to admit that we've literally been under bio attack and I don't like to be like a liberal

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Oh, we're victims, but every man woman a child in the world

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You say you're victims all the fucking time veterans of a bio weapon attack through the virus and then through the shot

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And and we have to really take that seriously is what I'm saying. Yeah, take it serious. This is stolen Valor

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This is a stolen bio attack our yep

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Yeah, I am a veteran of equal standing to any veteran of any war

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Maybe maybe more so just happens. Mine is fictional right non-existent and I didn't get the vaccine. I didn't do it

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So I got hovid four times, right? Yeah quite an attack. No

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See, he's in a weird headspace

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Can't look into a mirror. No, no, but I started to I started like what is he talking about?

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Yes, most of that was prompted by him expressing that he can't express the thing that he's saying

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Yeah, I don't know how to say words

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I mean it is it is so much every time I'm like a thought is complex every time I go back and it's like oh

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I was wondering I wonder what's inside Alex's mind and then he starts a sentence with like I was looking in the mirror and

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I'm trying to tell you how I think and I'm like don't run get out of here. Don't look in the mirror

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It's usually a bear riding a unicycle

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Banging symbols together. That's what's in his head. Yep. So he I was like, what is going on here?

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What is what is this about and as he talks a little bit more?

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He kind of gets like I got a sense of what he's talking about

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And and we have to really take that seriously is what I'm saying. And you're a lot of you're like well Jones

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You take it pretty serious, man

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No, I don't

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No

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Okay

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That's what happened in the first hour I was so upset about all this that I couldn't even make myself cover it

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and

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so I played the SWAT team clip of the women SWAT team members that

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Couldn't find their ass with both hands and and see I could do a really entertaining show like that and be with somewhat conservative

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But it's not gonna beat the New World Order

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to just play fun clips and

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Show how stupid the left is the left are people that fell to the enemy brainwashing and programming ways of nice

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So I do agree with Alex on one thing and that's that he was just filling time with that shit about the women's SWAT team

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Yeah, it was it was not funny and it really is just an avenue for him to push it pushes a misogyny and by extension

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Transphobia, but what I kind of take issue with him is that he's thinking that's different than what his show is most of the time

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Yeah, his show isn't serious. They don't get into deep issues most of the time

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He's just yelling about memes in the real world. Alex is like the Chris Hardwick of right-wing bigot Twitter

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He's out there scanning for hot memes and then yelling about them as if it's the news and I can understand him feeling

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Frustrated about that and I think that's what's going on

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It's a meaningless exercise and it's hard to imagine somebody actually enjoying watching his show

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But yeah in his head Alex is this big-time

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Revolutionary and in reality, he's just an idiot recapping social media and headlines

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He skimped and guess what? He isn't the one who's interviewing Vladimir Putin

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He never would be and that's where I think this is coming from

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Yeah

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his buddy scored the top of the line interview for their right-wing Putin loving media space and

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Alex is forced to as he put it look in the mirror. He has to see that he's never gonna be in that position

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He is where he is and that's all he's ever going to be

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He can poison the discourse and erode his audience's critical thinking skills with you know, fake shit and emotional outbursts

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But is as a person being Tucker's friend is probably as close as he's ever gonna get to the real shit

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And that's got to suck particularly since Alex has said for the last few years that Putin watches his show daily

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Yeah, Putin's a big fan of Alex and all the Russian propagandists that have worked with Alex who probably even said so and yet

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Tucker's the choice

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Poor guy so sad don't look in the mirror man

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You're gonna you're gonna feel that you're gonna feel that complicated nonsense about how you're not taking this seriously

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You're not serious. People don't take you seriously. Yeah, it is so it's so

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consistent, especially throughout this episode this just like these are people who are

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Unable to enjoy the thing they are. Mm-hmm their entire existence is

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obscuring the thing they are you know what I mean? Like

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Alex's most Alice's power and and prestige and everything comes from his profound

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Unseriousness. Yes, it is his unseriousness that has made him a star

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It is probably the only thing that makes him different and he doesn't get to enjoy that

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He has to feel bad about it because he wants to be I mean Tucker

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He wants to be the guy that has a veneer of credibility

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He wants to be the person because he was Tucker doesn't even get to enjoy his profound unseriousness

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No, he doesn't even get to enjoy fucking interviewing Putin the right way. Like how fucked is that?

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But there's degrees there is you know, yeah and like

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Alex will never be in the position that Tucker's in because for someone like Putin to do that interview

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He has to be able to pretend to take the other person serious. Yeah. Yeah, and you can pretend to take Tucker Carlson seriously

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You can't pretend to take Alex seriously. Yeah, and Alex understands that because here it's the tension

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It's the push and pull. Yeah of Alex when he looks in the mirror

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He understands that yelling about women SWAT teams is probably his lot in life is the peak

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Right of what he can do that is his talent, but he can do that about serious topics

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Yep, he can do the same sort of coverage right about some meme that's about something else and sometimes

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There's a people want but there's not really much more past that nobody feels like he is

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Yep, he feels like he's supposed to be the most important person in the world not Tucker

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Yeah, and that tension is is gonna get you it makes you feel weird

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It just it just you know, even Putin doesn't get to enjoy

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on

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NBC doesn't get to say to an NBC reporter

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Yeah

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How great is it to be a dictator that guy I can just order like MBS MBS didn't need at least he was like

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No comment, you know, at least he was like, oh, yeah, of course. I chopped that guy into little bits

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That's what I can do. How great is that for me? You know, like that's why I love being that's why I say

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I'm a clown and I love saying that I'm a clown. I love being a clown

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I mean, it's an enjoyable life sure, you know

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Like be the game you are sure be happy with it

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It's like uncle howdy said revel in what you are revel in what you I just don't get it. That sucks, man

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Enjoy the evil you are if you're gonna be that evil like a uncle howdy

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Yeah, one of the most evil entities that is ever perhaps the most evil entities. Yeah, so

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Alex interviews drew Hernandez the baby reporter if you went down to the border in

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California and I don't care. Yeah

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Then there was another thing that happens before that interview that I'm just not gonna play any clips of but I feel like I should

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Point out what Alex gets like he goes on a rant about circumcision

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He's a he's a bit anti circumcision. Okay, and I just alright

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I'm not saying that you can or can't be you know pro or against circumcision. Sure. It's just weird

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Alex is deep into

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That leave it alone. God made it leave it alone. I have I have I have no I have no judgment wherever you fall

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Right, but it is odd for Alex to spend an extended amount of time

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It's not something that I have known to be part of his like general

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Perspectives. Yeah, you know, it's not one of his issues that comes up a lot. Yeah opposition to circumcision

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Yeah, also, I mean like the the predicated like the argument that he bases it on is like God made you

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Let's not mess with God at that point. It should be a Christian scientist then or something, right?

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I mean like he should he shouldn't he's gotten oral surgery. Yeah

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Whatever you're saying. Just stop right? It's very strange. You haven't thought it all the way through

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Yeah, but it was very very fucked up

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No, just listening to him talk about talk about dicks and I just um

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Weird, I didn't enjoy it weird. It's not fun. Hmm. So anyway, we come to the end of this Jordan

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Yes, and we got that that interview to look forward to but it is it is so strange that through through this

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Episode the journey through it. There is a feeling of like a strange

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Relationship that Alex has to this. Yeah, you know, there's the it's so exciting. My buddy Tucker has got this interview

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Tucker is mine. Yeah

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Yes

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ownership of the connection to Tucker and then as things go along this like

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Wrestling with looking in the mirror seeing like I'm not serious. I'm not taken seriously

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There's there's a wild path that Alex walks that

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Huh, I don't know it

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Kind of is a bummer. Yeah

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Yeah, it's just it's a little bit of a bummer because it is an understandable human experience

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You could you can know you can know those feelings. Yeah

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Yeah, man, hmm what about those warrants I

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Wonder I wonder what it's like

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You know, you can only read about the past watch documentaries and listen to people talk about the past, you know

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and ultimately I think everybody lies in a sense of like

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They tend to make things more

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Streamlined yeah, you can clean up the story clean up the story. Yeah. Yeah, you know

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The present seems utterly fucking insane

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It seems impossible that anyone would ever be able to talk about the last 10 years in any coherent fashion. Absolutely

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No, I mean like even the Iraq War like I think crazy clean that up

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You can crazy but you can clean it up into something you could give a lecture on totally and somebody would get the broad

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I do what's happened? No last 10 years have been nice absolute chaos

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Yeah, non-stop you can't get up for a snowman. No one's making any sense

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Everybody is trying their best people are fucking everything up at that. I mean, it's like the yeah

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People of goodwill and good faith are still fucking things up. Yeah. Yeah, and people who have ill will are I mean

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It's just like Alex's is obviously an insincere bad actor. Yeah, but even he's been all over the place. Totally

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It's totally no it is it is like chaos times create chaos

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finding finding a

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consistent position from anyone it has been nigh impossible and I

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Think that there's probably some criticism to be made that we've even had some inconsistency

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I wouldn't put that past us

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but I think that we get a little bit lucky in that the subject that we cover is

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Consistently full of shit, right?

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And so there is a consistency in like we're just talking about Alex being full of shit

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That's not gonna change it, right?

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I mean, I I don't think I think there's a difference between inconsistency and being corrected, you know, like we've been corrected

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I've been wrong about tons of shit. Sure. No big deal. Probably look forward to a couple things from today. Probably. Yeah, absolutely

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It is not inconsistent to be corrected and then go. Yep. I was wrong about that and moving on

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That's a fair point that is consistency. You know, it is inconsistent whenever people are just like well don't care

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Well, and I like this and I like that and I like this and it's okay for me to love Jesus

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And it's okay for me to love killing people on a Tuesday

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like it's just it's just chaos and it's just super weird to to like just really take a step back and

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Recognize how it was not that long ago that Alex was talking about how he has all the documents and it's been proven that Putin

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Fakes all these yep terror attacks to seize power and all this shit and that all just went away

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Yeah, like his audience is expected to just be like, oh, I guess Alex was lying or wrong about something

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He claimed he proved yeah that a world leader was false flagging his people in order to seize power

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Which should call into question the credibility of all the other times Alex says that but you just ignore that anyway

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Oh boy, Jordan. What a fucking mess

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To doing this interview, but we're gonna have to do it

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I was gonna say at least at least the history-making thing we're gonna talk about isn't also a tragedy of epic proportions

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Oh wait, uh-huh. Fuck and if Alex is correct in its two hours, this is gonna be oh my god

Unknown Speaker (01:45:13.079)

You right mayor that is unreal might be a two-parter, please. Who knows he's just why why is

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20 24 fucking with me so much. I don't know we had the fucking debate. No

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The Jimmy Dore thing those two you're getting your ass beat and I don't know why you haven't done anything to anybody except for like

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succeed

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Maybe that's the problem when when people see you're good at something. They ask you to do it more the universe

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Goddamn universe. Anyway, we'll be back Jordan. Yes until then we have a website indeed. We do it sounds right calm

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Yep, we're also on blue sky. We are on blue sky. I've also forgotten to check blue sky in quite a while

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So we are off social media

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We are almost entirely impossible to get in contact with turns out a platinum platform. Not the problem

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It's not made for it. Just not made for it. Anyway, we'll be back but tell that I'm neo I'm Leo. I'm DC x-part There's no twist you got there's no twist got the tone a little bit off at first right you're back fun house mirror. I like it

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And now here comes the sex robots Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding

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Oh Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you