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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
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Knowledgefight.com, it's time to break these remixes.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledgefight.
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Dan and Jordan, Knowledgefight.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas.
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It's time to break.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding us.
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Hello Alex, I'm a sister in color. I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledgefight.com
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I love you.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledgefight, I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are. Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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My bright spot, I guess, is I've been seeing some movie trailers.
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Alright.
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Because I'm not one of these fancy people who pays for YouTube Premium.
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That is true, you are not one of those people.
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I got the commercials and I have to sit through them most of the time.
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You must.
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Unless I can skip them.
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And I've seen some movie trailers.
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Okay.
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And I have some thoughts.
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Alright.
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So there's new Ghostbusters coming out.
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Did not know that.
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Yep.
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Okay, is it set in like 1830s London.
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No.
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And they're fighting the ghost of Jack the Ripper.
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It has something to do with ice.
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Well, that's close.
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There's cold something in it.
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People are freezing.
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People are cold.
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I found the trailer to be sort of shocking in some ways.
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It implies a lot of death.
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Ghostbusters, the day after tomorrow.
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It feels that way.
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Yeah.
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But you got Kumail Nanjiani up in there.
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You got Patton Oswalt.
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You got Paul Rudd.
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Alright.
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Kumail still ripped?
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I don't know.
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I don't think so.
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Was he like, finally that can be done with all of this shit?
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I think so.
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From interviews I've heard with him that was not a super pleasant aspect of
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The Eternals.
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Yeah.
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I believe it.
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Much like the reviews of The Eternals.
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Also not super pleasant.
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But yeah, it looks fine.
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I don't know if I'll see it.
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But it looks fine.
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Yeah.
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It just brought me back to, I saw the one with like Kristen Wiig.
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Sure.
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And I got so emotional when the theme song hit at the beginning.
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Oh really?
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Yeah.
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I was just like, I did not expect that.
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Wow.
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Did you have a huge attachment to Ghostbusters?
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I didn't think I did.
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But I must have.
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Like I knew I liked them as a kid and I had the toys.
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Sure, sure, sure, sure.
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The proton pack and what have you.
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But yeah, I didn't realize that it was really going to just hit me as hard as it did.
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Wow.
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And so I was waiting for it in this trailer and I don't remember it coming.
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They couldn't secure the rights to the song.
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Yeah.
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Or they want to leave it for when it has the most emotional impact.
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And I support that.
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But the real bright spot is the trailer of, I didn't know this movie existed.
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It looks amazing.
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Okay.
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Dream Scenario.
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Never heard of it.
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So it's Nicolas Cage.
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Alright.
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And he looks a little older.
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He's playing an old nondescripty kind of guy.
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Sure, sure.
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Someone's dad.
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Someone's uncle.
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That kind of vibe.
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And I guess from what I'm able to make out from the trailer, he is somebody who keeps
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showing up in people's dreams and so he becomes a celebrity for being in people's dreams.
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Alright.
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And it looks insane.
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That does sound insane.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So now, because you've got Nicolas Cage being able to play this character who's dealing
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with the fact that he's in people's dreams and now he's famous because of it.
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Right.
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And then also being crazy in people's dreams.
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Yeah.
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It's just, it's all the things you would want from a Cage.
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It's everything.
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Yeah, it is.
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It really is.
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And he can be as nuts as you want in those dreams and it doesn't impact the narrative
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of it because it's a fucking dream.
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Right, right, right, right.
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It's great.
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They don't have to abide by if you die in the dream, you die in real life rules.
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And they don't have to abide by like, Nicolas is out of pocket.
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Right, right, right.
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Oh, it's a dream.
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It's fine.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He won't stop doing that weird voice.
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Oh man.
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That's fine.
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It would be so great if there was just one dream where he predicts 9-11, you know?
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And it's like, oh, ah, alright, I know you guys are watching.
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One dream where he's Superman.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Make up for him not being Superman.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so I want to see that.
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I haven't seen a movie in theaters in a really long time.
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Yeah, it's been since pre-pandemic for me.
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I think I might be more recent than you then.
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Oh yeah?
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So I saw, no, yeah, it was one of the Fast movies, but it wasn't the last one.
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So it might have been Fast 9.
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Yeah.
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I think, maybe.
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I felt like I had to see it in a theater.
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Yeah.
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And I think that was after, that was post-pandemic.
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So I think I'm more recent than you.
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Yeah, I think so.
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But yeah, that looked like something that I'm like, alright, I'll get my ass out of
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my seat and go watch that.
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Yeah, I think that.
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No, the last movie, I swear, I think the last movie I saw in theaters was The Rise of Skywalker.
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And it leaves a sour taste in your mouth.
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Sure.
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Much like the reviews to Eternal.
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Exactly.
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So what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is yesterday morning.
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I went and I got my car serviced.
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Did the oil change, did the whole thing.
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I'm at the dealership just waiting there.
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Just waiting for everything to be done.
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And then I walked by in the waiting room and there's Mike fucking Wylie there.
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Hey!
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At the same time.
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Noted Chicago comedian Mike Wylie.
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Mike Wylie.
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And it was awesome.
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It was great to meet, to see him again.
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Great to meet him.
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It was great to finally meet him.
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No, it was great to see him catch up.
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It was, and it's so cool.
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And it's, but also he listens to the show, so I know he's going to hear this.
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What's up Mike?
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Exactly.
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And there's a part of me that's like, oh shit, have I told the story on the, have I told
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any, am I saying anything that might have been on the show?
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I'm repeating it to a, to a bored person who I was like there the first night I did stand
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up comedy.
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I've, I've had that moment a number of times.
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The people who are politely like, yeah, you said that on the podcast.
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Yeah.
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It's not a pleasant feeling, but it is something you kind of have to make peace with.
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It's not fair, but it is what it is.
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Yeah.
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So Mike was getting his car taken care of too.
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Mike was getting his car taken care of too.
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Nice.
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It was so great.
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It was so great.
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Love Mike.
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Uh, you know, like I said, he was, he was there the first night I did stand up.
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He's, he's instrumental in like me continuing to do it and not feeling like I suck the whole
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time.
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So he used to blame.
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It is entirely his fault.
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He's very supportive.
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He was way too supportive.
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Maybe too supportive to you.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We could all have saved ourselves a lot of time and effort if it weren't for Mike.
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Uh, well that's great.
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That's always nice.
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That was nice.
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Running into an old friend.
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And at an odd time in an odd place.
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You know, it's always a delight.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Here's my second bright spot.
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What's that?
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I got a haircut and you didn't even notice.
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We've been sitting here for half an hour and you didn't notice.
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I noticed.
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Well, you didn't say anything because that means it's a bad haircut.
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No, I didn't.
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Well, I mean, here's the problem.
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Here's the problem.
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All right.
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Whenever I was walking in the door, I saw you and I was like, different haircut.
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And by then you had turned around and you fake, like close the door on me and I lost
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the initiative.
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You're not going to pin this on me.
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And then after that, no, no, no, it's not on you.
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And then after that I was like, I don't know, when do I inject this into the conversation?
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At any point.
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And here we are.
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Right.
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And here we are.
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And here we are.
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Your haircut looks great by the way.
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Thanks.
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That was not forced at all.
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You're just well trimmed.
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It's a delight.
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Um, so Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
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We're going to be talking about November 8th, 2023.
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That is present day Alex is back in the studio.
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This is decided not to quit.
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Oh, damn it.
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Right.
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Um, and so, uh, we're going to talk about what he's up to.
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There's been some elections around the country.
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Oh, that's true.
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Yeah.
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The election in Virginia, Kentucky, uh, Ohio, Mississippi, and a lot of them did not go
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great for Republicans.
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Not great for them.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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It's a pretty loud, uh, resounding call for abortion access.
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It is very funny how for so long, uh, we've allowed it to be tossed back and forth as
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a political football.
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And then finally, whenever they did go, fuck it, it's gone now.
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Everybody's like, oh, well, we actually did want that.
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Yeah.
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Oh, how about that?
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Let's, uh, let's put this to bed.
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Let's just, this is something we all support.
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We should be done with this, right?
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We should be done with this 40 years ago.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, it's, uh, maybe a very small group of fringe weirdos who are keeping this an
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issue.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, we should just move forward.
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Let's just move forward.
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Anyway, there's a bunch of that.
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And so Alex, uh, I was going to say he covers the election, but he doesn't really.
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No, that makes sense.
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There's something else he covers that sort of has to do with the election.
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Okay.
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And we'll talk about this here in a minute, but first let's say hello to some new wonks.
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Ooh, that's a great idea.
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So first, Jamie is a pretty cool guy, I guess.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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It was so weird that you mentioned Nate Burrows earlier on the show because I was reading
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this email and he was like, I mentioned him before we started recording.
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Oh, did you?
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Okay.
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That's on me.
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But that is still weird.
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Yeah, it is still weird.
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But yeah.
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So the email was like, wouldn't it be funny if you guys knew each other and it's like,
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you have no idea how well he knows Nate Burrows.
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I don't know if I know his high school friends, but I don't know if I know his high school
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friends.
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Most of the people that he hung out with, a lot of people he hung out with, and I would
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hang out with as well, were a lot of his college friends from DePaul.
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But yeah, I don't know about high school friends and then their cousins.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's thrice removed.
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Yeah, that doesn't...
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But I'm sure we would be friends.
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Yeah, no doubt.
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Next, I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, skibbity-doop-boop-boop-boop-boop-boop-boop-boop.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Next, wonking with the Squatch in Seattle.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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Hello, Seattle.
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Have you seen the new Frasier?
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No, never.
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Neither have I.
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Not a chance.
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I want to, and yet I haven't.
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I know you do, and you know why you haven't.
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Yeah, something's stopping me.
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And Dan, I will gladly be your ska music friend.
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FIF forever.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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You know what that stands for?
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Five Iron Frenzy?
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
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Someone sodomized and sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy shark.
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Um, so yeah, we start, uh, we start off with the awareness that an election happened and
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that's basically all you're going to need because, so here's what's going on.
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Okay.
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There was a viral video.
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Why would I have expected any other two words to come out of your mouth?
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Okay.
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And so Alex covers that viral video and he's going to then interview the guy who's in the
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viral video.
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Sure, sure.
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Gotcha.
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Uh, turns out as a mutual friend of mine, uh, he heads up an organization that's very
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successful exposing tyranny in Virginia.
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He joins us in about 15 minutes.
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And of course it's the viral video, tens of millions of views on Fox, tens of millions
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of years on Twitter, tens of millions of years on YouTube and it's just probably 40 million
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people have seen this now.
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Finger wagging, dim voter loses it on GOP poll worker in curse laden land and he says,
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I'm taking your picture and I'm going to get you.
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The Republicans win.
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And this is standard fare for these folks.
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Yeah.
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So as he likes to do, Alex has decided to try to attach himself to someone who has a
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video that's going viral and he was trying to suck whatever juice he can out of them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like a gross mosquito on an even shittier, smaller mosquito.
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Yeah.
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In this case it's a Matthew Hurt with two T's who's a Republican from Virginia who filmed
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himself getting scolded by a really annoying Democrat.
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I've watched the video and the dude is out of line, but it's not really that big of a
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deal.
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Sure.
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If we're talking threats, I've seen way worse coming from the right, but when you lose these
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elections real hard, you have to have a different story to report and this really works for
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that purpose.
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Oh, that's fair.
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That's fair.
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In the Virginia election, Democrats ran hard on defending access to reproductive healthcare
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and they ended up regaining control of the general assembly, which coincided with Andy
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Bashir being reelected as Kentucky governor and Ohio voters passing an amendment to their
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state constitution to enshrine access to reproductive healthcare.
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Overall, it was a very bad day for the right wing after this election and if you're on
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the losing side of something like this, you don't want to sit back and reflect that maybe
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your position isn't good and people don't like it.
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You can't go on air and say, well, maybe people feel that access to abortion is a human right
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and mine is a deeply fringe position that doesn't sell.
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I mean, it would be, it would be a weird world.
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Like I think we would all have a fucking whiplash day if all right wing media was just like,
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Hey, listen, the majority is spoken.
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I guess abortion's done and that's, and we would all sit and stop and the entire fucking
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country would stop.
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We would all have whiplash from breaking our necks on how quickly they, they hit the brakes
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on us.
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It's insane.
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Well, it would, the conversation would need to be something along the lines, for it to
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be had seriously would have to be something like, I am recognizing that 80% of the population
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is okay with this thing and I don't care.
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I have a principled opposition to it and I demand that I impose that upon you.
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That would be what the conversation would have to be and that's just not going to happen
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and no one's going to change their mind about anything.
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So you need a different angle to run with.
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And thankfully Fox news did a story about a GOP poll worker type guy who had a Democrat
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voter be a dick to him.
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And now we have a completely new news cycle and there's no need to spend time talking
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with the audience about how this doesn't bode so great for 2024.
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I do appreciate that I spent my early years learning to learn and then I spend the rest
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of my life being told by TV how not to.
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And observing so many people who can't.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Or just refuse to.
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Incidentally, Matthew Hurt with two T's is no normal poll watcher guy.
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This is a dude who's deeply connected to insider GOP circles and he knows exactly what he's
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doing.
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That sounds right.
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He didn't just have a video go viral and now he's making the most of it.
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First point, he's the director of professional services for the Leadership Institute.
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This is an organization that's meant to train conservatives in various capacities as activists,
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media figures, and candidates.
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It was founded in 1979 by a man named Morton C. Blackwell, who's still its president and
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incidentally also the head of the Republican National Committee in Virginia.
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Yeah, that's a white nationalist.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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You're making an assumption.
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In my bones.
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In my bones, I feel it.
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All right, you're making a guess.
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Morton Blackwell?
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Yeah, I feel it.
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This group boasts some serious alums like Karl Rove, Jim Jordan, Grover Norquist, and
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Mike Pence, as well as Project Veritas's James O'Keefe.
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Before he caught the eye of Andrew Breitbart, O'Keefe got a grant from the Leadership Institute
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who supported his efforts to bring a conservative publication to his campus at Tufts.
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There are many big name individuals, but there are even more folks they've trained who you'd
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never know who they are, whether they be functionaries in a bureaucracy or local activists around
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the country.
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And assassins.
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There may be a few ninjas.
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One thing that I've seen brought up about their training is that they like to stress
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what amounts to distasteful trolling.
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For instance, in 2005, Jeff Horowitz went through their course and wrote about it for
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Salon saying this, quote, controlled controversy, making your point in a manner so bombastic
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that your opponents blow their cool, is a Blackwell specialty.
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Before the 2004 Republican convention, the conservative elder personally went to a drug
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store and bought little pink heart stickers, bandages, and purple nail polish.
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At home, he made the purple heart band-aids that he later distributed in Madison Square
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Garden to mock John Kerry's war wounds.
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From Blackwell's perspective, the Kerry camp's outrage at the gag was a tactical disaster.
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You see the same kind of strategy all over the place on the right wing.
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You do something so distasteful and offensive that it's almost certain to cause a response
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and then make an entire news cycle out of how someone was offended at the offensive
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thing that you've done.
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In many ways, the story we're seeing play out in this viral video and the coverage of
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it on Fox and Infos reflects a fairly similar strategy because there's one important thing
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that we don't know.
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What provoked the confrontation?
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There's an entire preliminary exchange between Matthew and this annoying Democrat, but it
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wasn't recorded.
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So we have to take Matthew's word for it.
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I have no idea what happened, but I wouldn't be too surprised if there was a little more
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poking than Matthew would like to admit.
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In addition to all this, the Leadership Institute is heavily funded by right wing billionaires
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like the Lind and Harry Bradley Foundation, the Ed Eulian Family Foundation, Donors Trust,
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and Donor Capital Fund.
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Awesome.
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Those guys are great.
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Matthew works for the Leadership Institute and I will say that being the director of
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professional services is not an entry-level position.
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It's pretty high up in there.
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In addition, on the website for the Libertarian Party's 2022 convention, Matthew is credited
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as the, quote, director of external relationships for Americans for Prosperity Foundation's
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Grassroots Leadership Academy.
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This grassroots leadership academy is very similar to the Leadership Institute except
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that it started in 2015 and it's run by Americans for Prosperity, a Koch family front.
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In 2016, Matthew was listed as a, quote, grassroots trainer and curriculum specialist.
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So the two things to be clear about is that he worked for a Koch front grassroots astroturfing
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outlet for years and he's a specialist in the things that they teach.
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It should be noted that the grassroots activist certification program, inside it there's an
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entire section of class dedicated to going viral.
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So maybe he knows the material.
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Anyway, this isn't a guy who just was a humble poll volunteer who was involved with some
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groups fighting corruption and he had a video go viral.
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This is a deeply connected Republican activist who trains people on how to do exactly what
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he's doing now.
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Essentially, this entire thing is a farce, but it's an important farce for them to play
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out.
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If they didn't do this, all that would be left would be talking about how poorly their
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side did in the election and that's not going to happen.
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So here we are.
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As for Alex, I mean, he just saw somebody getting a lot of views and he wanted to get
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in on the action.
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He could care less that this guy who works for the very people he would call globalists.
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The organization that was involved with training Karl Rove, Alex loves Grover Norquist.
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Yeah.
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Oh boy.
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No tax notes.
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If I were this dude, I don't know if there's a better ad for my school than going viral
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in exactly this manner at this exact time.
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You should have to go to billionaire all the billionaires and be like, look, look at what
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I just did.
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Give me even more.
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And look at the way I played it out.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, come on.
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I earned all of this shit.
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Pay me a billion dollars.
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Yeah.
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So he's going to be on here in a little bit.
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And that'll be most of, I think I would, I would, I would say it's a fair assessment.
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That's most of our episode.
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That's fair.
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Um, but of course there was election fraud.
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Sure.
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It also clearly had more election fraud in Kentucky and evidence of that in the governor's
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race it's happened again, magically, uh, the gas broke at two different voting places.
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That are the key Democrat areas to keep them open late into the night.
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So they would magically get the votes to put him over the top that's in Louisville, Kentucky.
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So we'll be looking at that as well here today.
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So I know of one instance of a gas leak in Kentucky at the Highland Baptist church in
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Louisville, but that just closed the polls for 30 minutes in response, a judge allowed
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them to continue voting until six 30 instead of six.
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Is that keeping voting open late into the night, late into the night, it seems like
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an embarrassing stretch, daylight savings time.
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That is dark.
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If you're Alex, you have to work with what you've got.
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I understand.
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And I appreciate it.
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You do what you got to do.
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So what's the second place that had a gas leak.
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I have no idea.
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And Alex never talks in specific.
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So I'm kind of left in a no man's land where I have to assume he's just making that up.
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If there's one gas leak, that isn't even close to suspicious.
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But if there's two, then you have the beginnings of a pattern.
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Not really.
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No.
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But if you're Alex, you have something you can work with.
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Yeah.
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I mean that to me, that's almost like he would be shocked if there was one, you know, like
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him hearing you say there was a gas leak would be like, ha ha, I can't believe I guessed
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right.
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You know, like it has nothing, whether there was 100 or zero.
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He's operating off like skimming headlines.
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So I'm guessing he saw multiple headlines about the same polling place being closed
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and his brain made it multiple ones.
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Because he's looking for the storyline that's exciting and indicates election fraud.
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He has the story decided already.
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It's just fitting the pieces.
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Yeah.
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I feel like that's a diminishing returns.
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You know, you can do election fraud.
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Yes, his whole career.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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You can do election fraud for like presidents, you know, the big, the big four years, that
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kind of thing.
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No.
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On off year elections, who's, who's really frauding?
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No, but that's the thing.
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This will never not happen again.
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Ugh.
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I mean, you just have to recognize that it's just the new thing and everybody needs to
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stop taking these arguments seriously.
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So there's just a knee jerk response, not based on anything real.
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Ironically, Alex pretends he's concerned about election integrity, but by screaming election
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meddling after every single election, the result is going to be that accusations of
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election meddling are going to be so much easier to ignore.
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Yeah.
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Just the boy who cried election fraud.
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Oh no.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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You may notice also that he's not talking about Mississippi, how nine polling places
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in Heinz County ran out of ballots.
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He's not bringing that up.
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Weird.
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This is a heavily Democrat area, so Alex isn't interested.
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Incidentally, it's unclear if there was any kind of nefarious plot to disenfranchise voters
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since the turnout was so high that there's a good chance they were just severely unprepared.
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Wow.
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By law, they're required to have enough ballots for 60% of the active voter count, but if
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you get over that turnout, it can be an issue.
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Yeah.
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And so I think from what I can tell, absent any other evidence that I haven't seen, they
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just were unprepared for a wave of voters.
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Right, right, right.
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We didn't expect democracy to work this time.
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Mm-hmm.
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Well, it's not worked before.
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We're Mississippi.
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Okay.
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But if you were a Republican area, you know that Alex would be-
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Oh, it would be the loudest thing anybody would ever speak about.
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Definitely.
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I mean, because the idea of that many polling places running out of ballots in a very specific
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area that leans heavily towards one party, you would have to objectively say, there could
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be something wrong there needing to investigate.
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Well, the reason is because all the precincts are in the same county, and the 60% number
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is based on the county, and then they distribute the ballots to the polling places.
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Yeah.
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And-
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Right.
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Yeah.
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But for Alex, it would be so good.
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Yep.
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So this is off topic a little bit.
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Okay.
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But Alex has a report in mind that he's going to do that I think is distasteful.
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The reason I never play this footage is that if you're going to play it, you might as well
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really show a bunch of it.
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So-
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Then don't.
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I'm going to show a little bit today, but when I do a special report for Steven Crowder's
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outfit on Friday, and I'll layer excerpts of it here, I'm going to do a deep dive on
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what it's like to live in Africa under the rule of some of the African despots and under
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the Islamists.
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I mean, we got footage of them mowing down little children.
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We got footage of just piles of dead bodies, black people begging for their lives at the
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hands of the Muslims who are Arab, but also at the hands of Africans.
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And it's just absolutely, completely over the top stuff, mass executions, you name it.
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Now you're not going to see this on the news because only white people can be mean to brown
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people.
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See, there was a faux concern about people that he was expressing.
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You could be tricked into thinking that he cares about what these people's lives are
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like in other countries, but he does not.
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This is just to prove that white people aren't the only bad people.
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I mean, I know.
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It's so-
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Awful.
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I immediately got visions of like, for the price of a cup of coffee a day, you can give
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Alex the price of a cup of coffee a day.
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You could alleviate his feelings that everyone's mean to him because he's white.
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I mean, yeah, it's like you're even trying to make money.
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I mean, it's insane.
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Yeah, great.
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Sure.
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Let's get back to the main topic, which is this viral video.
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Also, do you think the news in Africa has that, they're covering the news in Africa,
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not the news in-
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And many news outlets do cover much of this stuff that Alex is pretending that they don't
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cover.
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It's thoroughly covered, books, everything.
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So we get to this viral video, which is the real news.
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Yes.
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God, I hate the world.
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And so Alex plays it, so you get to hear the exchange.
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There's some of the attempted voter suppression in Virginia yesterday.
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Attempted voter suppression.
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We might as well have been walking up to my head on the way to the polling station, putting
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a gun to my head, trying to tell me not to vote.
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Do you expect me not to take that personally?
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You try to overthrow elections with violence, and then you're out here among decent people?
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Thanks for coming out, sir.
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What do you have to say to that, huh?
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What's on your, what's on your, your, what are your policy prescriptions?
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Have a nice day, you've got racist rights involving yourself and people's families and
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their bedrooms.
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It's pretty wild.
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You animal.
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You try to steal my vote next year, I'm going to remember you personally.
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Thank you.
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It's a one party consent state.
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Yeah, one party state.
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You want a one party countries.
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Hey sir, how are you headed into vote?
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Can I get a Republican sample ballot?
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Sure.
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Thank you.
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You know, try not to be buddy buddy with these people because they put on a face of a good
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neighbor, but they support lynchings, or they're Bible beating, bigots and freaks, and they're
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not good neighbors.
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Is this a state farm commercial?
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Yeah, so that's the, uh, the video, um, and you, you do realize, uh, watching it, why
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the headline is finger wagging person, because that's basically what he did.
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He finger wagged.
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Yeah.
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That's, that's the least threatened I've ever felt in my entire life.
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The most threatening argument you could make is that he did take a picture of the guy,
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but I don't, did he release a video to Fox news?
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No, that was the, Matt did, and then the dude got doxed.
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So yeah.
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Huh?
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Huh?
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I don't know if this is supposed to be voter suppression though.
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Like even under the most critical examination of what this guy did, this guy's not a voter.
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This is shit.
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He's, this guy has wanted to get that shit off his chest for a while.
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I'm sure.
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I get it.
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I'm sure.
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He blew up.
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That happens.
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I mean, that's not very good.
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No.
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Yeah.
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I think it, I think it's impolite for sure.
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Uh, it's unbecoming and it's just bad cursor.
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You know, it's just a poor usage.
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What are you talking about?
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Shit bird.
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I mean, yeah, this is, this is not good.
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You can punch that up.
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If you want to be threatening in a like fun way or in a threatening way, you got to do
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it better than this.
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True.
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Yeah.
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Um, I also got the feeling that maybe he knows who Matthew is.
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It did have a very, there's a familiarity.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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It was the rapist rights part.
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That's where it's like, why are you throwing that one in there for, yeah.
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And also the, uh, the, uh, you're an insurrectionist type, you know, want to overthrow the government.
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Sure.
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Like that's not all of the GOP.
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Well, maybe most.
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I don't know if that's an assumption you would make just from someone offering you a Republican
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sample ballot.
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I feel like this is, that's the assumption this dude would make.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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I got the sense that there's more here than meets the eye.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what that more is, but there's something that isn't being told by this video.
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So Alex got in touch with this guy through a mutual friend, man.
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That sucks.
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It sucks to be an old Fox news viewer.
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Cause this is what you get.
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Yeah.
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This is what you get.
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Like I can go to world star, man.
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Do you not understand what is really out there?
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What kind of fun shit is really happening?
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Yeah.
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But those videos aren't going to feed you the message that you want, which is that your
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political enemies are unhinged finger waggers.
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Right.
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You know?
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Oh no.
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I'm so.
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You don't want to be scolded.
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No one likes that.
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So Alex has a mutual friend to this guy and I thought the way he explained it is interesting.
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Okay.
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Also guys, print me his Twitter.
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He's got a very successful organization in Virginia.
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Knows people that work with him.
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That's how they gave me his number this morning to get him on.
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Alex knows some people at the leadership Institute.
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That's interesting.
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I may be me, I think he knows James O'Keefe, but he's not there.
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She's just an alum of it.
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He went through the program, right?
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People who work there, Alex knows them, which seems strange because I would generally think
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that people who are serious would not be interested in Alex.
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If you're interested in the seriousness of political, uh, partisan politics and training
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activists and such, sure.
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Alex is far off to the side of that.
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If you're interested in going viral, Alex is the meme machine.
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You got it.
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So Alex introduces Matt and, uh, he clearly shows some cards pretty fast.
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Okay.
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There's a lot to unpack here.
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First off, tell us about yourself a little bit, and then the, the, the, the, the, a big
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response to this.
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And before you got your camera rolling, your phone rolling, what was he saying before you
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got your phone on?
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Well, thank you so much, Alex, for the opportunity.
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My name is Matthew hurt and I'm the chairman of the Arlington County Republican committee
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in Arlington, Virginia, where 80% of my neighbors living in dead voted for Joe Biden.
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Ah, here you can see Matt giving a cute winking first glimpse at the fact that he believes
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that dead people voting swung the 2020 election.
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This is important because it tends toward painting a picture of what that initial interaction
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between Matthew and this annoying Democrat might've been.
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We have no video of it, and Matt is a slick, well trained media operative.
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So I'm not going to blindly take his word for it.
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I wouldn't be too surprised if he made some snide comment about dead voters or stolen
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elections hoping to set someone off.
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It's also possible that the guy in the video is just a bit of an asshole.
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Maybe he was having a bad day and it all happened unprompted.
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I've just watched how right wing media operates for too long to take it face value.
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What some shit head tells me happened before the camera started rolling.
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I have no, I have no interest in taking that like as given.
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Especially whenever this is the media presentation that this guy has like right out the gate,
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just immediate timing, smooth, like all of this is easy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This guy, this guy is media ready.
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Yeah.
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He's talked into the mirror.
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They said this over and over and over and over.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He is as annoying as a finger wagger.
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100%.
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So he tells this story of what happened before the video started and this is a, I don't know,
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his, his take.
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What you don't see in the video is, is he actually walks toward me at the beginning
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of the interaction and I offer him a Republican sample ballot.
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He then flies into a rage for two or three minutes, very similar kind of a conversation
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that you see in the video.
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And then he goes into vote Alex and it's at this point that I realize he's going to come
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back out and he's going to do the same thing.
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So I took my phone and I dropped it in my, my shirt pocket and I hit record, like you
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said, and I waited for him to come out of the polling location and sure enough, the,
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the entirety of the video, about two minutes on Twitter or on X is, is actually the second
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interaction.
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The second encounter I had with him, I had this interaction with him and then he went
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into vote and I realized this is going to be good.
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I'm going to start rolling.
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Yeah, I really, I really, I really took it to this guy.
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And then I gave him a Republican ballot, like he specifically asked me not to do.
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Then he went in there, he tried to vote on it, realized what had happened, came out and
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was even more of a dick.
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No, I don't, I didn't get any sense that he accepted the Republican sample ballot from
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the guy.
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Well, I mean, it just seems like when he comes out of the, why would you keep going after
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that?
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Huh?
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I don't know.
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No, but that's what I'm saying is there's something that's not quite right.
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It doesn't make sense.
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It is entirely possible though, that the guy is just like kind of not, not that like not
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cool.
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You know what I mean?
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Sure.
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But I mean, going back for seconds at a polling place, you got to want it, right?
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You got to want it.
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It feels like something has to incite that because you could just, it's, it's so easy
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to walk away at that point.
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Yeah.
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Now hold on a second.
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I ask you this question.
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If he is still in the, if he's still voting, we have the phone going into the pocket.
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Yeah.
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The record button being pressed.
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Yeah.
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Did we get him walking to the, cause I feel like the video started in media res, like
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in the middle of the guy talking.
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It did.
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Right.
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So if he started the video before the guy came out, right, then there is extra video
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that we did not see.
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Yeah.
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So I'm going to pause the recording right now and I'm going to find the raw.
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So from what I have reviewed the raw footage and it is, it does start in media res, but
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also it's him walking up to him.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So it is both.
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Okay.
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I don't, I think the timing is pretty remarkable.
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He might've cut out the part where he's putting the phone in his pocket and giggling to himself
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about how he's going to record this guy.
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Does feel like there's, that might be missing from the raw footage, but yeah, it doesn't,
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there's not an exchange that happens in the second encounter that's been cut out or anything.
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All I'm saying is that when you put your phone into your pocket, it is recording outwards,
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right?
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So you can't press the record button while it's in your pocket.
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True.
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You have to do it from outside the pocket, then put it in the pocket.
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True.
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Yeah.
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So you need to see the insertion into the pocket or else it's all doctor.
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This is all fake.
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It's a deep fake.
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You're taking it out of context.
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I think, I guess one of the things that I keep coming back to that makes me just really
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curious about this is like, nothing happens.
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No.
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Like this, if this guy was really mad enough to do all this, like how didn't he do anything
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else?
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He doesn't even really yell at him.
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Yeah, I know.
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He's not, he's got a very measured, again, I'm saying this, this is just terrible work
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on his part.
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It's, it's a little bland.
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Yeah.
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So the mission of this is to be like, this is who liberals are.
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Well, I mean, so bummer.
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This is what unhinged progressives and leftists look like in places like Arlington, Virginia,
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in places like Austin, Texas, and in places like Memphis or Nashville, you know, these
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urban centers across, across America where they don't really like to have opposing viewpoints
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in their communities.
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And as the chairman of the Republican party here, I am very outgoing and I'm very friendly
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and nice to a lot of my Democrat neighbors.
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And they actually like to talk to us.
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They'd like to engage us on policy, but occasionally you get somebody like this who just does not
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want a diversity of thought in this community.
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So there are your community, you're the chairman of the Republican party, you're a nationally
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known a recognized grassroots organizer and public speaker.
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I've seen your work for years and you're just out there calmly handing out brochures, talking
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to people.
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And I figured that's what happened because we didn't talk before you came on.
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You just agreed to come on.
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It looked like he'd already confronted you and he was coming back for more.
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I noticed that's something they do too.
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If you're polite to them, they seem to enjoy that and then want to bully you.
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Sometimes they wait till you try to leave.
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That was bullying?
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Then they chase you in some weird ritual.
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I don't know.
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It borders on bullying.
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Let me say this, all right, words have to mean things.
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That is not unhinged.
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That's thoroughly hinged.
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It's pretty hinged.
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That's thoroughly hinged.
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As a connoisseur of unhingetude.
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Right.
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It's a bit extra.
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Is that right?
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Maybe.
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Maybe.
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It's a little bit more.
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I don't know how to use slang.
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I mean, he said fuck more than once, so it's R-rated.
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That's as good as you got.
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It's unbecoming language.
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It's unbecoming.
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If that is what you're going to come at me with, oh, the unhinged left is unbecoming,
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then get the fuck out of here.
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It's a little bit-
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Grow a backbone.
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Soft.
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Yeah.
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Come on.
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But that's the goal here, is you take this guy, this one example, and like, this is your
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enemy.
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Right.
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This is the embodiment of all, saw this happen over and over and over again throughout various
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campaigns.
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2016 was lousy with Owen Schroyer going out and finding some liberal at a rally that he
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could be like, this is who all the Democrats are.
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Let me throw this out at you.
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Maybe we're making a huge tactical error, right?
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Maybe we need to send out some truly unhinged people.
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I'd like to see them deal with that.
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You know, like, cause here's the deal, right?
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If I'm a conservative, I'm listening to this guy call these people unhinged and I go, well,
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oh no, I'm so scared of the left, right?
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I'm not afraid of that.
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They're trying to make it a big deal, but what I'm not afraid of is these Democrats
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or whatever.
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Are you not afraid of being scolded?
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No, no, no, no.
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No scolding.
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Finger gun wagging, not a problem, especially not when I'm hearing a lot about guns from
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other people.
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What about a finger gun wagging?
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Finger gun wagging is, now that's bullying.
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So Alex wants to know what happened in the first encounter and I have to say I am of
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the same mind.
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I would like to know.
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Good call.
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Alex is mining for more fodder, whereas I'm trying to get to the bottom of it.
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What were some of the things he said just from memory in the first confrontation?
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You know, and I have filed a police report and I am pressing charges in this interaction.
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There is allegedly a track record for this gentleman of disrupting political activity.
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Allegedly in 2018 he was on the White House lawn protesting Donald Trump from within the
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gates of the White House lawn.
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And so I learned via online yesterday that he has a long track record of this and I think
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it is important that he be confronted with these transgressions and his outrageous activity.
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But the conversation on the way in was very similar to what you heard in the video.
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So you can see Matt's slick training kicking in there.
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That's media shit.
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Yep.
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He doesn't really have much to say about the initial interaction and the interview kind
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of de-escalates if he just answers this question with, it's more of the same.
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So instead, Matthew answers the question he wanted Alex to ask him, which is, tell me
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your dubious speculation about this guy.
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Yeah.
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People on Twitter were quick to figure out who they thought this guy was and they might
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be right, they might not, I have no idea.
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There's a fun trick that Matthew's playing there though.
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You can see with his characterization of this guy.
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He brings up the idea that this guy allegedly protested at the White House and that he should
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be quote, confronted for his transgression and outrageous activity.
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Obviously this is not something Matthew actually cares about.
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It's trolling meant to make excuses for the people who stormed the Capitol on January
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6th.
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Yeah.
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This is, this is just shithead trolling.
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Let me ask, was that the one where Trump ordered the cops to like fucking beat the shit out
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of people so he could do the photo op with a Bible?
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It might've been, I'm not sure.
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Ironic to use that one as the, these frothing at the mouth liberals.
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Yeah.
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But this is all a game for Matthew and you can see in the way he carries himself that
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he's choosing actions carefully to elicit a certain response.
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He wants to poke and prod like his boss wearing a purple bandaid at a carry rally until someone
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has a response that he can fake outrage about.
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This is a childish game, but it really does work.
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And being aware of it is very helpful to not fall into it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The thing that confuses me though about all these hacks, I mean like these specific hacks,
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like you're, come on man, you don't sound outraged.
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No.
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You don't know how to sound.
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You don't know how to fake actual rage.
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You know, like this is all very, very prepared, but it's also somewhat monotone, you know,
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like he's not, I'm not feeling him being like, and these people are out here doing all that.
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Like he's the unhinged left is going at like, that's yeah, that's weak tea.
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Because it's, it's meant to capitalize off someone else's outburst.
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That's just the name of the game.
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It's be a shithead, be annoying and offensive.
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And then when someone's offended or annoyed, be like, what's wrong with you?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They did, they did learn a lot from nine year olds.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Nine year olds were really revolutionary in their movement.
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Yeah.
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Conservative movement is, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So he pivoted to smear this guy and then he's bought himself enough time.
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So we get to hear what actually was in the initial interaction.
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The conversation on the way in was very similar to what you heard in the, in the, in the video.
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You know, I'm an insurrectionist and all of these things, all of the things that you might
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think, whatever you, Alex, or your, your viewers think a progressive would say in a community
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like Arlington, he said it and, and it, you know, it was a comedy gold if it wasn't so
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scary because there are people walking around this community here in Arlington who are deeply,
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deeply disturbed.
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Here Matthew employs another really sneaky trick.
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Instead of offering specifics about what the guy said to him, he suggests that Alex's audience
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should imagine what they think an unhinged progressive would say and that's what he said.
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Matthew's allowing the audience's imagination to dictate reality, which isn't a particularly
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honest way to go about things, but it's very effective for the purposes of the propaganda
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he's engaged in.
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This guy not only said all of the things you imagine he said, he's also super scary.
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He's really scary because the left-wing people out there are so terrifying.
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Does this dude not know that the Unite the Right rally was in Virginia?
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I mean, I just, I just, if this is what you're trying to sell me as scary, we've just got
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two different lives.
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We've just got two different lives.
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Does he not know that earlier this year, a guy wielding a baseball bat attacked staffers
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at Virginia Democrat representative Gary Conley's office?
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Like this is nonsense.
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You have to choose a side to be afraid of.
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I think it's pretty clear.
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Sure, sure.
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But that's only, that's just physical.
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All right.
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So this, this cuts to your bones.
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The scolding?
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The scold?
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Have you ever been finger wagged?
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Uh.
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Listen, I've been hit by a baseball bat, but finger wagging?
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Step too far.
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Yeah.
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Step too far.
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Won't you think of the wagged?
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I, oh, there, there, it's dark.
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It's dark down there.
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So here's what Matthew's really all about here.
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Yeah.
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He wants to convince Alex's audience to vote GOP.
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Yeah.
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Well, that tracks.
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Fine.
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Yeah.
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I think a lot of your viewers are skeptical probably of Republican party politics.
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I jokingly say I am the establishment in my committee.
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I was a Ron Paul delegate in 2012.
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I supported Ron Paul.
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I went to the convention in Tampa and I've been a pro Liberty activist my entire life.
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It is so important for your listeners, your viewers to get involved in these processes
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and to, and to join us.
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Because what I found last night, last night at our election night party, a woman came
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to the election night party.
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She said, I worked as a political appointee for bill Clinton and it took me 20 years,
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but I was wrong.
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And I'm ready to join the Arlington County Republicans and make a difference as a Republican.
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So we have an opportunity in Arlington where again, like I said, 80% of my neighbors living
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in bed, most of them, they, they voted for Joe Biden.
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Most of them are federal employees or auxiliaries.
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They work in some tangential relationship to the federal government.
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So they are biased toward the left or toward progressive or leftist ideology or their paycheck
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real opportunity here.
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And I tell people I'm the kid in the room full of horse manure saying there's gotta
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be a pony in here somewhere.
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It's gotta be.
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So I think that they're, they would be biased towards left wing ideology if you mean a government
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existing.
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Yeah.
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I mean, again, left wing ideology, their job, right?
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Like if you're, if your belief in the appropriate thing and the way things should run is like
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Ron Paul shit where it's like, let's dismantle everything, then yeah, I think every, I think
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most people are pretty far to the left of you.
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I mean, yeah, you don't even have to have too many complicated policy positions if you
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like, okay, the guy on the right says he literally wants to cut my job.
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So I, in order to keep my job, I have to vote this way.
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I must retain the government for my job.
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I guess I am pro-democratic mainly because I have to work.
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Yeah.
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And he, he paints this as like, like issues and policies and stuff.
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And it's like, no, no, no, you just don't like the government existing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's what these leftists are.
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So many, so many sales classes.
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Yeah.
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I hear, I hear in his like sales pitch, just all of that, like that Institute is fucking
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scary now.
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I'm scared of them.
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Yeah.
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See, that's a scary idea.
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Yeah.
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Especially because the diversity of weird shitheads that have come out of it.
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Yeah, I know.
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I mean, that's wild.
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Um, but the other thing too is like, this is, um, a voice that is not going to land.
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No.
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Because what he's doing is essentially being like, hello, I'm a nerd and I'm a part of
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the establishment GOP.
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I mean, yes, he is 100% doing exactly that.
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Now granted, I liked Ron Paul, but now here I am in the Republican party and the waters
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are great.
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You should come in and info warriors.
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Use your extremist numbers to bolster our votes.
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And it's like, they're not the ones who are going to vote GOP are already going to, right.
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You're not going to sway a ton of people and the other people are not going to, they're
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probably just not going to vote at all.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Trump or nothing, baby.
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They're really, there's no like, yeah.
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Here's a thought that I had.
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What's that?
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Okay.
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So did you see any of the debate?
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No.
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The GOP debate?
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No.
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The vague rhymes with cake.
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Come on.
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Why would I watch a GOP debate?
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He did a lot of grandstanding.
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I did read that and I find this disgusting.
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This is the media once again failing to learn a fucking thing about goddamn anything.
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But the fact that I read, Oh, the Vic wants to build a wall on the Northern border.
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Fuck you.
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You're all fucking stupid.
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You're doing it again.
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You're all fucking stupid and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
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Yeah.
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Ashamed of yourselves.
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That was a big thought that I had as well.
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Pathetic.
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Yeah.
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You learn nothing.
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Yeah.
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You have failed us.
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The other thing I thought is that now the GOP exists essentially to be a punching bag
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for people.
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Yeah.
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Like they attach themselves so strongly to Trump that now you need a demagogue figure
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head in order.
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Like you look at that stage and all those dorks don't have a chance.
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Oh no.
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Like the Vic's probably the only person on that stage who has a chance and he doesn't
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have a chance.
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I'm telling you, I'm telling you, it is going to happen.
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Nikki Haley.
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It's going to be Nikki Haley.
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It's going to happen.
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No.
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Trump is going to go to jail or be ineligible to become president.
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DeSantis is already lost because look at his stupid fucking face.
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Poor Ron.
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But they can get the fuck out of here.
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Nikki Haley is really all they've got left.
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And this once again proves one of my core beliefs.
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The first female president will be sold to us as a Republican.
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But then you think it's all so comfortable.
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Everything is just sunny.
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Your glass breaks.
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Oh my God.
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What's that?
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It's Rand Paul.
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Rand Paul is running in with a steel chair.
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Oh man.
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That would be fun.
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Let's get an October surprise.
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No I just, I got this overwhelming feeling that it's like the Republican party does not
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matter anymore really.
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It's just there to be co-opted by whoever is going to be the biggest shit head.
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Like that's the model now because people are pretty generally, from what I've seen, pretty
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excited about Vivek and his antics at the GOP.
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Like these debates, not enough probably to sway the needle on him as a candidate.
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Sure, sure.
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But that kind of behavior is what they want.
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Yeah.
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Out of a white guy.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Let's not go too far, Vivek.
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You know where you are.
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So it's just, it's interesting to me that like I was looking at that stage and I was
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seeing people who I think might have wanted to have a debate.
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It's so funny to me that like, you think that's possible now?
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You did this to yourselves.
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You shot yourselves in the foot.
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Your party is this now.
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Yeah.
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The only problem with that really is that that is so unsustainable, it's going to take
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the rest of us down with it.
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Yeah.
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It sucks.
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It sucks.
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I mean, it does feel, I mean, there is a certain amount of smoke them if you got them going
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around.
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They come if you got them.
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Every time I look at the news, yeah.
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So Matt is asked why this video went viral.
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And I would say- Because I am well connected to many media
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figures who helped me make it happen.
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Yes, basically.
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His answer is, we astroturf that shit.
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You did say it.
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Why do you think the story is so viral?
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I think that being there and having the presence of mine to film it and then to immediately
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get it online.
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If you think about it, this happened at 9 a.m. Eastern yesterday.
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It was up by 9 10.
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And so as we go into the news cycle and a program like this, producers and reporters
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are looking for stories.
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I'm pretty well connected at the conservative movement with reporters and with others.
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He literally said that.
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And so friends of mine pushed this out.
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It's got over 11 million views now from my own Twitter account today.
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We astroturf that shit.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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I'm shocked.
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I was expecting a lie.
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I was expecting a lie that he told the truth is fair.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Artificial ass shit.
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Yep.
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He asked my friends to make it go viral.
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And then they did.
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I have very powerful and well connected friends and media.
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I'm no globalist.
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I'm just well connected in media globally.
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Yeah.
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So, um, Alex decries the left wing violence like the finger wagger waggers and then other
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things.
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Sure.
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And I guess we've learned the name of this individual, but he's more of the leftist quote
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intelligentsia.
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Their foot soldiers are antifa and in many parts of the country, Republicans get hit
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over the head with baseball bats or with concrete blocks or pepper spray or sometimes even get
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shot in the back and the media, but never in the front top, I mean, Rand Paul ribs broken
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by a neighbor that hated him and his lung punctured and has been attacked many other
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times.
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He got shot at when other Congress almost were killed by deranged killer.
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And I remember when that guy drove from Illinois to shoot up the Republican baseball game close
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to you there in DC, Wolf Blitzer said, this guy was not a monster.
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He was angry.
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I'll never forget that quote.
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So these guys, they're really the ones dealing the violence, the mostly peaceful protest,
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trying to frame us as hyper violent.
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Is Alex trying to suggest that the media didn't cover that shooting or Rand Paul's neighbor
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kicking his ass?
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I feel that's silly.
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I read a lot about those a lot.
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It's worth noting that all of this stuff Alex says is a lie.
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Rand Paul's neighbor wasn't politically motivated violence.
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Those about his lawn and we've talked about the Wolf Blitzer thing in the past, but I
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think it's worth revisiting because Alex says he'll never forget that quote.
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It's not a quote it's entirely made up in Alex's imagination in order to justify his
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bullshit narrative that the media supports people who carry out violence against the
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right wing.
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Wolf was interviewing a friend of the shooter who said that he wasn't evil.
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Wolf is actually pushing back on that.
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You know, it's interesting because clearly he was evil and on March 22nd and he, as you
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point out, he posted this on Facebook.
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Trump is a traitor.
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Trump has destroyed our democracy.
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It's time to destroy Trump and company.
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And then he said Republicans are the Taliban of the USA.
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When you say on a Facebook post, it's time to destroy Trump and company, that's a threat
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against the president of the United States.
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And that's a crime.
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Excuse me, Wolf was interviewing somebody who did a piece with the friend.
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Right.
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He wasn't talking directly to the friend.
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But Alex is a liar and he's using those lies to paint a picture that his political side
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is under violent attack and that the media supports it.
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He's doing that to scare his audience because that serves a couple of important purposes.
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One, the fear keeps most people incapacitated and unable to engage with critical thinking.
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If you're in danger, it is not time to assess whether or not you're in danger.
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There is only time to give money to that loudmouth cokehead who's going to save you from the
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bad guys.
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Two, the fear intention that's built will inevitably have the effect of causing someone
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to take matters into their own hands and carry out violence against Alex's opponents, which
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he can call a false flag in order to justify and prove that his side is that much more
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under attack and create this tension and fear cycle that continues forever.
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And so it goes.
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For Alex, the truth isn't the truth.
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His feelings are the truth.
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He feels like Wolf Blitzer supported the guy who shot Steve Scalise and so he remembers
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fake quotes that attest to that.
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Sincerely, it's wild to imagine like how much of Alex's audience thinks that they're receiving
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news and analysis and they're actually just dwelling on Alex's feelings.
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Simultaneously, it's wild to think about how devastating the consequences of Alex's feelings
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have been on everyone else.
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Yeah.
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Yeesh.
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Yeah.
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Let's not, let's not really unpack because I don't think anybody wants to.
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The idea that because of the vagaries of imagination that we've built a society out of, one man's
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fiction can override all of reality.
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Or at least have a dramatic impact on it for a lot of people that has real world consequences.
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In the same way asteroids did around 270 million years ago.
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You're giving Alex too much credit.
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But you know, hey, there is voter fraud.
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Sure.
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All right.
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I'm sorry.
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Are we back there?
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Yes.
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Oh, okay.
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Fuck, fuck.
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It does exist.
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And Alex has an example.
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Well, by their yardstick, that is clear voter suppression though, what he did to you.
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And of course we see-
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Wait, how?
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He wasn't voting.
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He was working there.
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We'll catch the Democrats a hundred times doing it.
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Get swept under the rug.
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Look what just happened.
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Wagging their fingers?
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Where a convicted member of the city council got caught on all the footage stuffing the
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ballot box again.
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So it's Democrats robbing Democrats.
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The judge shut it down.
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There's a new election.
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And there are a bunch of other examples that have broken around the country as well.
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And they're now catching them.
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I think that's the good news is-
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Which examples?
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This process, people say, well, there's so much election fraud, just don't vote.
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No, keep voting, vote in higher numbers, have landslides and then investigate it and then
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force it out.
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And that's why they're panicking, trying to outlaw the idea of questioning elections.
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Sassing a guy handing out sample ballots is not voter suppression.
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Matthew wasn't a voter in that situation.
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And the annoying Democrat guy didn't intimidate anyone around the idea of voting.
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That's a dumb argument.
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As is the idea that people are trying to make questioning elections illegal.
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That's not happening.
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But it's still illegal to craft an elaborate plot to lie about the election in a conspiracy
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to overturn the results of it because you lost.
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That's not so much questioning as it is a crime.
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Alex may think that they're the same thing, but he's never been able to tell what questioning
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actually means.
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He's always had an iffy relationship with that.
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As for this thing in Connecticut, that's totally real.
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But Alex has some details wrong.
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This is about Joe Gannum, who is mayor of Bridgeport from 1991 to 2003.
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Then he was convicted of charges ranging from racketeering to extortion to mail fraud, which
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got him seven years in prison.
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I'm listening.
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He was then released and reelected in 2015.
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Hell yeah.
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And he's been mayor ever since.
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Hell yeah.
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In a recent Democratic mayoral primary, there was significant evidence of ballot stuffing
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at drop boxes.
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So a judge ordered a new primary, but according to the New York Times, quote, had no authority
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to postpone the general election in the meantime.
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That means the general election will go on while the Democratic primary has not been
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decided.
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Wild.
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God, I love the thing about America is our no backsies, our unspoken no backsies policy
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of like, OK, sure, maybe they should have sat a Supreme Court justice, but it's too
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late now.
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Moving on.
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Bye.
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Like, it's just moving on.
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Just keep going forward.
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Weird technicalities.
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Yep.
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So the evidence in this case rises well above the kind of shoddy shit that folks like Alex
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and Dinesh D'Souza have presented about the 2020 election, which is why a judge made an
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order like this in this case, and all Alex and Dinesh can do is complain and then make
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tons of money complaining.
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It's a real bummer because this actual case of fraud will be used by these shitheads to
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justify their own conspiracies after every single election from here on out.
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But if you look at this as a movie, it's pretty comical.
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I mean, it is pretty.
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This mayor is like a cartoon character in terms of corruption.
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He's Ben Gazzara in Roadhouse.
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It's 100% this.
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He brought a Wal-Mart to Bridgeport.
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I mean, it is so much that.
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It's so.
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Oh, my God.
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It is it is remarkable how there can be stories like that that you've just not heard of.
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Yeah.
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You don't live in Bridgeport.
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You don't live around Connecticut.
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So maybe you haven't heard of Boss.
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Yeah.
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The Boss.
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Tammany Hall 2023.
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Yeah.
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I mean, sure.
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Who got re-elected.
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Ah, you know, that's just the way to do it, though.
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I was reading a little bit about it and he made an apology and everybody's like, I think
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you're trying to run again.
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Like when he got out of prison.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
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Then he just sort of did campaign stuff, but without saying he was campaigning.
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And then all of a sudden he was campaigning.
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Yeah, you got to go away to come back.
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Yeah.
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So it's like it's like how many countries how many countries, especially in like Eastern
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and East Asia, where it's like, all right, 30 years ago, we finally got rid of that monarchy.
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Now we've elected the son of the monarch we got rid of to become president.
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And you're like, oh, right.
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So there's some Democrats who have been telling Alex, I'm sick of this shit.
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Yeah.
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Sick of the Democrats.
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About time.
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I mean, look, I know a lot of Democrats who are lawyers and prominent people and privately
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at dinner eating a chicken fried steak.
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Take a listen.
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I hate the Democratic Party and I hate all this.
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But if I don't stay in it, I will be lose all my contracts.
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Chicken fried steak is the new hot tub.
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I mean, how is that for a nonsense sentence that makes sense to you and me?
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Chicken fried steak is the new hot tub.
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I mean, yes, that is.
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Nobody prepared us for this, right?
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No, there was no.
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There's no way that we could be prepared for chicken fried steak is the new hot tub.
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No, that's just not possible.
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No, nothing in this world could prepare you for the moment that that happens.
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Yep.
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OK, good.
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Just to be clear that I'm not insane nor for this.
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OK.
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And you'd think as demonized as I am in the corporate press that I would be getting tomatoes
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thrown at me or beer bottles.
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And that's happened a few times.
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And it was happening quite a bit when Trump first got elected.
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But now it doesn't happen.
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And so, knock on wood, it might happen today since I said that.
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But it happens very rarely when somebody dumps a Coca-Cola on my head or iced tea or coffee
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or throws a bottle at me or throws a bag of feces at me like Antifa did and missed me
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and hit Owen.
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Ooh, that was like four or five years ago.
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That and jail.
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That sucks.
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My wife and daughter, I have three other children, but they're older and moved out now.
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It's old.
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I am sad.
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Hey, I want pizza.
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And I'm like, well, I don't want to wait an hour for some delivery.
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Got to bring it cold.
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I'll go get it.
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I'll go from here.
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I get there.
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I walk in and a little check in place is right here.
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And I tell the receptionist, here's my name, pizza.
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I'm worried there's no racism.
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And there's a pie.
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My name is pizza.
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Just loaded with, I'd say, middle aged men and women, mainly women.
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It's just jam packed.
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The bar's just bustling.
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Okay.
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And a woman comes over.
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She goes, I used to be a libtard.
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Oh, what?
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But you woke me up.
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Another woman comes over.
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She goes, I was too.
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And then another woman.
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I am Spartacus.
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I was going to say, what are we doing?
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Something like that happens a few days before as well.
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So it's happening all over the place.
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And then I'm walking out with the pizza and the salad and another woman and man are walking
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in and they say, hey, we used to be big liberals.
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We love you.
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We're awake now.
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We're red built.
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And I had five people and I was only waiting like a few minutes come up to me.
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And once one came up, more came up.
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That's incredible, folks.
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That's in places like Austin, Texas and places like Big Bend and just no matter where I go,
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that's what's happening.
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So it's a very, very exciting time to be alive.
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So I put it to you.
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His second example is Big Ben.
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What do you think the odds are that he listened to our episode from London?
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I don't know.
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Do you think it's fresh in his mind that he went to Big Ben and people were very fans
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there?
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It feels like that's such a coincidence.
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It's quite a specific.
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It's such a specific.
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It's such a specific for something that he hasn't talked about.
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No.
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Oh, God damn it.
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I don't like this.
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I don't like knowing things like this.
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Chicken fried steak is the new hot tub.
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God damn it, dude.
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I don't know.
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It's interesting because that is definitely something that I could see being just that
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would come to his memory, possibly.
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But I've heard him talk about people shaking his hand and talking how great he is and he
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is not brought up Big Ben.
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I mean, here's what I will say.
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He neglected to name that the pizza place was called Mussolini's Pizza.
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So there were a lot more fascist-leaning patrons than would be otherwise noted.
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For example, an Olive Garden or a Monocles.
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You get pizza at Olive Garden?
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Oh, I forgot.
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No, it was Italian.
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I was just going straight Italian.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I have some thoughts about Italian food, but we'll get to them at another time.
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So Alex, this next clip is very offensive and it's just Alex hating Muslims.
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I knew we were going to get to racism sooner or later.
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We're going to start the next hour.
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The first five minutes, I'm going to get more into Israel and the war and play this clip
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on Palestinian TV saying it's okay to kidnap and keep Jewish women as sex slaves.
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And this is like a mainline belief.
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Then I'll show you Muslims mass murdering black people, and I'm not trying to attack
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the Muslims here.
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I'm just going to show you what everybody's doing.
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Okay.
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Israel's doing a lot of bad stuff too, but just understand bringing in the Muslims.
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In fact, that's something I didn't get to.
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Israel wants to bring them here.
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I don't hate Israel, but you just take that rattlesnake.
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Okay.
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I'm really mad about this.
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Okay.
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This is a line in the sand.
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Okay.
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You keep the little precious Muslims.
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All right.
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We'll be right back.
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Stay with us.
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All I ever wanted.
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All I ever needed is hate.
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So the video that he's talking about there is from 2014.
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And it's not from Palestinian TV or Palestinian person making that argument.
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It's a professor from Al Azhar, which is a university in Cairo.
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And again, it's a decade old.
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This TV appearance is actually super controversial back then because people did not agree with
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the point that she was making, which was that in a legitimate war, you're permitted to take
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people from the other side as slaves.
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I'm not going to try and rationalize her position or anything, but I will say that it is not
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a universally held belief, as Alex seems to imply.
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Further, he's completely botched his sourcing and is pretending it's not almost a decade
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old in order to make it relevant to the ongoing massacre of Palestinians and create another
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position for him to have as opposed to dealing with reality.
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Right.
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Alex's position seems to be, I'm fine with Palestinians being killed because I hate Muslims
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and I'm starting to get mad at Israel because they're going to cause an increase of refugees
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that will lead to Muslims coming to the United States and I hate Muslims.
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Yeah.
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Seems to be about where he's at.
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That is, you know, it's a difficult place to be in because on one hand you say, well,
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Israel's killing people and I like that.
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On the other hand, you say Israel's sending people that I don't like to me.
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So if I say I don't want Israel to kill people, who am I?
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There's not more in-depth analysis that comes.
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So yeah, it's just hate.
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I mean, it really is just hate.
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Yeah.
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Whoo.
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What you gonna do?
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So we have another guest that comes in.
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Oh really?
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Alex Dimikovits.
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The plandemic lady.
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Okay.
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She's back.
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She's back.
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Again and again, huh?
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With authority.
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Oh?
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Or what you would say.
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No, I don't know.
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Oh, okay.
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I don't know.
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Back with a vengeance.
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Back with a vengeance.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Back with a head of steam.
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Die hard vengeance of the second go around.
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She's something, man.
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So one of the big things that is attempting to be conveyed here is that Alex is trying
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to get her to say that the COVID vaccines had Ebola in them.
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That's what we're doing.
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Right.
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We're setting the scene.
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This is the stage.
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Yes.
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There we go.
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That is one of the big messages.
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If I recall correctly, that was even the like title.
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Yeah.
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The title of the episode on Band.video is Wednesday Emergency Broadcast Globalist Spiking
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COVID Vaccine With Weaponized Ebola Says Top Scientist.
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All right.
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Well, not borne out really by her interview, but she does bring up Ebola a couple of times
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in kind of like-
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Insinuates.
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Incoherent-ish ways, but enough for Alex to work with.
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Okay.
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Anyway, they're not going to deal with much of that because she has some truly bizarre
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positions.
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Okay.
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Talk to us like we're not a super scientist like you that saw this decades ago and blew
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the whistle.
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What is the master plan?
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What are they doing and how is it going for them?
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Because it seems like there is a big awakening and they've had to pull back some.
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Well, the simple answer, I'm getting a lot better, I think, at understanding that and
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speaking that, but it's God against evil.
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And there isn't-
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Interesting.
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Science.
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There isn't any shot ever that gave you immunity according to God.
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Whoa.
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And that's what I said in the first discussion with Mickey Willis in that first plandemic
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is lifelong immunity, that your immune system never forgets what it's seen.
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But what we've done with every single shot is escape the innate immunity, your skin,
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your nose, your ears, your throat, your nasal pharyngeal cavity, the various aspect of the
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microbes, our virome, our microbiota given by God.
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Yeah, God gave you immunity.
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Vaccines are an affront to God.
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I mean, that is a position to take.
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It is.
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That is a position to take.
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I would argue of many of the diseases that vaccines have helped-
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Eradicate.
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Yeah.
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God didn't do much for those.
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So were those not part of our original, like if we didn't take vaccines back in the day,
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pre-figuring out cowpox or whatever, and everybody was dying of smallpox, do we not have an innate
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immunity to smallpox?
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And if that is the case, does that mean God wants us to die of smallpox?
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Should we have all died out because of that plague?
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That we are in defiance of God for having figured out a cure or a preventative?
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Now we're talking.
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I'm willing to engage with that concept.
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If she were to go into that, interesting.
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Interesting conversation.
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But not gonna happen, because this really is more about being anti-vex and trying to
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shift the argument away from science stuff while still being like, this is what real
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science is, your skin.
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Yeah, that's rough.
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Man, that's a good story though.
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That's a good story that we were supposed to die out in a plague, but we defeated God.
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That's what's going on behind the scenes.
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God is actually trying to kill us because we didn't die.
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Final destination.
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Oh man, we figured out this world.
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It's all final destination.
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It's all final destination.
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Oh my God.
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I gotta sit with that for a while.
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This is going to be rough.
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All right.
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Well, while we think about that, enjoy Alex saying that the HPV vaccine was pulled and
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then Judy having to be like, no, it wasn't.
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Somebody like Bill Gates, a eugenicicity populationist, obviously used to look at him as a psychotic
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demon.
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Now with the HPV shots that we know they had to pull years ago because they killed so many
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people and caused all these horrible autoimmune responses, now they want to try to make every
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little girl in America take it.
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Well, actually they didn't pull it years ago.
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I mean, I know they still have it out there, but it got rejected to a great extent.
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I remember.
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Well, it's on the schedule and in California it's mandated in every little girl and boy.
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Well, you're the expert.
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Tell us what this thing does.
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Uh, they pulled it.
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I mean, some people didn't like it.
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I've talked about it negatively.
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So they got pulled.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's some classic backpedaling.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'll teach you that at the Leadership Institute, that kind of smooth media shit.
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That would give Steph Curry several hundred feet of space to work with there, yeah.
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I find that spectacular.
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Yeah.
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Wild.
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Panic in the moment.
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I mean, it could be anything.
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I mean, people didn't like it.
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Tell me what does the HPV vaccine do?
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It's such a great thing.
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It kills so many people.
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I mean, it is such a great thing to ask because the answer is there's like, well, it's a vaccine
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against HPV.
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It's in the name.
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Right.
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But you can't answer that.
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Wow.
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You can't answer the simplest answer.
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Well, it turns out.
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Okay.
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HPV is actually good, apparently.
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There we go.
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Here's what I'm talking about.
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It may or may not make you immune to most cancer.
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Ooh.
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HPV doesn't cause any kind of cancer.
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It's not that the virus doesn't exist.
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That's not true.
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You know, HIV, no single virus causes, you know, anything if our mucosal immune system.
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So you think about HPV, human papillomavirus, it causes warts.
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I've got one right over my right eye now, and I've got a couple here, and with sexual
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activity in college is the first time that you'll be exposed to it.
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But we actually...
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What is happening right now?
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That's what happened all the way back in 1980.
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What did she just tell me?
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But what we now know is HPV is in newborns, and it's part of that good microbiome...
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Did you give your baby HPV?
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What's the difference between self and non-self?
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By the way, it's funny you say that, because I'm not a scientist like you, but I've even
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read mainstream articles and studies, I've been on there 29 years, almost 30, that they
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found that when the child falls down, this is what happened to me in the playground,
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and hits their knees in gravel, that the viruses are in the dirt, and they found people that
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are infected with HPV or similar wart-causing viruses are then way more resistant to other
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viral cancers.
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Now, you're the scientist.
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That's what I've read.
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Is that true?
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Yes, because in the dirt, we have microbes that actually digest, and I actually said
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that.
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So the earth is vaccinating us.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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Exactly.
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Immunizing us.
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Immunization is not vaccination.
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Well, that's how I got warts, was not sex.
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I got warts playing baseball and falling in gravel and cuts, and you'd get a few of them,
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and then I read that once you have those wart viruses, it makes you way resistant to cancer.
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Correct.
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Wow.
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I hate this.
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I hate this.
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Your body learns how to do it.
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If you're naturally-
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Wow.
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God is incredible.
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If you're-
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It's poison.
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Our food is genetically modified.
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Yeah, the reason this dirt thing doesn't work is because the ground has been poisoned by,
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I guess, chemtrails or some shit.
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Some other conspiracy will explain why this doesn't actually work.
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That is a collection of words that I don't think have any connection to each other whatsoever.
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Yeah.
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We just listen to a lot of words that could be separate.
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I was listening to it, and I have a feeling when I listen to her that I'm like, I'm worried.
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Yeah.
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A lot of guests don't give me that feeling of like, I got to leave the room.
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What else?
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I can't be around this.
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Yeah, what else?
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No, there's a dark energy to this conversation where it is a certain amount of like, what
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won't you do, lady?
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I'm scared of this woman.
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In a real way, I want to be in a different room.
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You're totally right.
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Well, HPV vaccines, get rid of them.
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They don't do anything.
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You should have HPV anyway, because then you won't get cancer.
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There's just something about her being like, I have one over my right eye right now.
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I got that in college.
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How are you talking to me about this like this right now?
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Stop this.
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Well, she also doesn't like tetanus vaccines.
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If she were to get her way, it would be devastating to people in the developing world.
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All doctors are trained to give pharmaceuticals, whether pills or shots.
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That was the Rockefeller's in 1900.
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Within 20 years, they just took over medicine.
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Because it really wasn't even Western medicine before.
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What would you call medicine before they took it over?
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It was health care.
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When I did something stupid and ran over a barbed wire fence and cut my leg almost in
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half, I go home to my mom and say, shouldn't I get a tetanus shot?
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Should I worry about blood poisoning?
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She said, you should have thought of that.
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I told you to stay out of there.
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And so, of course, I didn't die.
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But you know, we...
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If I had, she'd still be a great mom.
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There's no shot.
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There is no shot that is good or ever provided immunization according to God.
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Do they give you protection from an acute disease from a week when you're exposed?
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Yes, perhaps.
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But again...
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Was it the contaminant sterilizer that gave you cancer a month later?
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Correct.
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The chronic diseases.
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So maybe more than a week, huh?
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Maybe more than a week, maybe quite a while, it gives you immunity to stuff.
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I mean, look, I do have a feeling that a major driver of the anti-vax sentiment is a hate
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of people in the developing world.
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I think that people like Alex on some level are aware that should he get his way and all
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these vaccines be recalled, the people who would be hurt the most are people who are
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in the developing world.
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They would be dead in much higher numbers than already are the case.
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And I think that he understands that on some level.
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And it's a...
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Yeah, maybe.
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And I think that's mixed up in his politics too because so much of the stuff that animated
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The Right Wing that he came out of has to do with like, we got to get rid of foreign
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aid.
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Why are we spending all this money on people in other countries and stuff?
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And if all those people were to die, there'd be nobody to send the money to.
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It probably would solve itself from his standpoint.
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That is the way he would see it, yeah.
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So I think, I'm not sure that all of this is like an entirely conscious thing, but I'm
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fairly certain from enough viewing of his show that some of these feelings are mixed
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up in there.
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Yeah.
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And I find it abhorrent.
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There's enough of a like hinting towards it or an implication of like, and if this were
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to happen because that's just God and I'm happy with that and I'm fine with that and
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it's not really, it's not even me.
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I don't have to take responsibility for it.
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God doesn't provide any immunity according to the Bible when the vaccines were made.
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Vaccines have never given immunity according to God.
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What does that sentence mean?
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It means that God has never come out and said specifically that vaccines provide immunity.
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She goes on to say that everything will be fine just so long as you don't inject or ingest
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anything that has like, well you can't inject anything and then you can't ingest anything
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that has like GMO stuff.
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Sometimes I like to imagine that if like we were on a boat, like let's say human society
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is on a boat.
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Yeah.
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And a boat is a different environment.
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It is.
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You know?
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Cramped.
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If we were on this boat.
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We're surviving the raft.
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Totally.
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I think humanity, human society would maybe see this woman off the side of the boat.
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That's all I'm saying.
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I don't think she's going to make it past, does the tetanus shot help?
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Maybe when you get tetanus.
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I think that she would hurt your chances of survival.
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Yeah.
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I will say that much.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So we have one last clip.
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Okay.
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And also from the two of them talking.
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Great.
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I'm aware that Mark Dice came in for the third hour to talk with Alex.
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Gross.
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But I don't care.
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I think there was something overwhelming about Judy's delivery that I just kind of was like,
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I gotta get out of here.
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No, it's really uncomfortable.
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Yeah.
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It's really uncomfortable.
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So we have one last clip and it's Alex telling another fun story about his dad.
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Okay.
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Great.
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Which I cannot confirm nor deny.
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Mm-hmm.
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My dad was a dentist, but he also owned a hospital with some of his partners in Mesquite,
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Texas outside Dallas.
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And I remember him ranting at the kitchen table about AZT killing people, how they were
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blocking the good drugs, the interferon.
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And then he worked with some of the doctors and I don't want to make my dad a hero, but
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it's true.
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My dad was Dallas Buyers Club.
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He was involved, given by the medicine, he was right in the middle of it.
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What?
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I remember hearing all this when I was a kid.
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What?
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I remember-
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Get the fuck out!
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I was watching a movie with him.
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I rarely go to movies with him.
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Get the fuck out!
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But when Dallas Buyers Club came out like a decade ago with Matthew McConaughey, and
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we were going to see a science fiction movie, and when the Dallas Buyers Club came on, my
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dad started crying.
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And after the movie, he started, he said, well, I knew that guy, I knew those people.
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So it was just crazy how- That's crazy.
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It's crazy.
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Alex's dad was involved with the Dallas Buyers Club.
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I mean, that would be an interesting story and the timing would almost make sense somewhat,
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but he's lied too much for me to even give a shit and pretend to pretend to care.
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The timing wouldn't work out, really.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it would work out in as much as like, it was like 1988 was when that started.
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I don't know.
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I believe- It was some time.
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Yeah.
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And that was when Alex and his dad would have been in Dallas.
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Right.
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That's all I'm agreeing to, yes.
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Alex would have been like 14 at the time.
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No.
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Unacceptable.
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I don't buy any of this.
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I don't buy any of that and I don't buy, Alex's dad has not told him the truth about one fucking
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detail of his entire goddamn life.
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Not a single thing.
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No.
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I don't know what Alex's dad is because anything that Alex has told me is pretend.
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I found his dental degree, so I know he is a dentist.
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All right.
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I found a property that he owns, like land holdings, so I know that he has that.
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I wish, there's one thing that I want.
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There's one thing that I want of this story and of that family, which is for him to have
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a sacred family in another state.
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That needs to happen.
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I just need that really bad.
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I know that he always says that he has a Korean adopted sister.
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Be nice if that was his dad's- Oh, man.
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From another marriage or- Just someone out there, someone in Maine, just sitting there
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going, I'm Alex Jones' half brother and no one will ever know.
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No one will ever know.
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That's a missed opportunity to really taunt him.
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Yeah, I know.
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Yeah.
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If you were that half sibling, just really just send him race memories that you have.
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You remember this one, bro?
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Yeah.
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This is what I got from our lineage.
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That would be the best.
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Oh, God.
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That would be great.
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Especially if you were older than him because he has this whole thing about the oldest son
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gets the race memories.
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If he wasn't the...
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Oh, my God.
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That'd be too good.
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That would be amazing.
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That'd be too good.
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The world isn't good enough for us.
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Right.
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You know?
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Right.
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And I don't know if we've ever actually heard him discuss whether or not if you get an abortion,
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are you aborting the child that has the race memories?
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Right.
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Right.
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Because if so- Chaos.
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I mean, his children are- Yeah.
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They're race memoryless.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They're divorced from reality.
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Yeah.
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There's a lot to ponder here.
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I wonder if they can connect to God.
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I think they can.
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I don't know.
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God is acting real weird lately according to this show.
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Right.
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I think, look, if you ask me, I think everybody can connect to God as they understand.
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That's fair.
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All right.
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If you ask Alex, maybe his kids can.
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I don't know.
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That's all for the year.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And if you ask Judy, no injections.
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No injections.
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Because immunity is only bestowed by God through your skin and your nose.
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But you know what's weird about the way she says that, though, is that it's not-
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A lot of things.
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A lot of things are weird about it.
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Well, sure.
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I won't disagree with that.
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It's that it is somewhat open-ended.
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It's like God has never said that vaccines provide immunity.
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Right.
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Vaccines, nothing has ever provided immunity according to God.
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See, but the according to, I think you're taking in a way that I'm not.
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You're saying that God was never quoted as saying-
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I mean, it is a little bit along those lines.
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But I think it's like by God's will.
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By God's decree.
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According to-
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See, that's where we get into the issues with double entendre.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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It is complicated.
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Yeah.
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I don't know, man.
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It's a rare experience for me to really just get like, I need to leave the room vibes from
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somebody.
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But she gave it to me hard.
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And the other thing, too, is she keeps bringing up Kent Heckenlively, who's the guy who wrote
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Alex's books.
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Yeah.
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Because he also writes her books.
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Great.
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I assume that's a good connection to have.
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Yeah.
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And then she's like, yeah, you always give a brain force whenever he's-
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Take a brain force whenever he'd start working on your books.
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Don't do this.
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And Judy even says, when I read your book, I would take a brain force.
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And I was like, wait, maybe that makes it make more sense.
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Maybe there's something about being high on brain force that these books start to be good.
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Oh, okay.
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So maybe it's not what's being written.
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It's what's being written between the lines so long as you are high on brain force.
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I'm starting to suspect that maybe there's shit in Invisible Ink that you can only see
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if you're on brain force.
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Maybe what happens is when you're on brain force, you don't turn the pages.
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You open the book to the middle and then you enter in.
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Right.
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Do you remember that, was that in, ah shit, that Weed movie that you ever, John Stewart,
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you know that you ever do this on weed?
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Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Dave Chappelle.
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Half Baked?
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Half Baked, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's just that with the brain force.
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Just imagine that.
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Yeah.
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Would have been good if I could have remembered the names of things.
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Yeah, well, it happens.
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Chicken fried steak is the new hot tub.
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I don't know if we're ever going to live that one down.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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It's the kind of thing that if we were a different show, we'd make shirts, but oh well.
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That would be the most, yeah, no, not going to happen.
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Anyway, we'll be back for another episode, but until then, Jordan, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep.
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We're also on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledge underscore fight.
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Yep.
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We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZX Clark.
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Bum bum.
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Bum bum.
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Bum bum.
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Bum bum.
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That's a heartbeat.
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Yep.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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Woo.
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Yeah.
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.