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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan

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I love your work

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan

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I'm Jordan

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Uh, we're a couple dudes, like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene

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and talk a little bit about Alex Jones

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Oh indeed, we are Dan

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Jordan

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Dan

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Jordan

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Quick question for you

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What's up?

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What's your bright spot today, buddy?

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My bright spot today, Jordan, is we got a lovely package from Ziep

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Open up a mailbag

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Oh yes

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From Amy

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Yeah

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Um, and thank you so much, Amy

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What a delightful bunch of candy

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It was great

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Um, got also

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The rocks

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We got the crunchies and the rocks in there

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Crunches and the rocks, yep

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Some mochi, or not mochi, lychee gummies

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Lychee, yep, yep

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Uh, bananas

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For Bonanza

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I don't know what, I don't, maybe that was a reference to Johnny Bananas

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The banana gummies

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Yeah, that's a good point, I didn't get why we got the bananas

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Because there were some references, like you know, with the crunchies and the rocks

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True, true

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And uh, and such

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Yeah

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Um, but then also a bunch of little mini mini blocks

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Little small mini block sets that I've been posting on Instagram as I, as I finish them

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Got one of Celine, that I took one of the eyes out of so it would match

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Yes

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Um, also as of time of recording we've got Squatch finished

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Right

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And Thomas Jefferson

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Squatch looks good, you removed, you removed TJ's mouth

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Well, it had a thing where you're supposed to have like a one millimeter gap that makes the mouth

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But when you're pushing blocks together it is very, very difficult to keep that

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Unless it's blocked by something

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Sure, sure, sure, sure

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Unless there's a gap in there

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You need to put a little pin in or something

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Yeah, yeah

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And I also thought it just looked better without a mouth

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Yeah, no, it's

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And he's so quotable, shut the fuck up

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I was, I mean, no

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Keep your mouth shut, TJ

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The fun part of that is I think it is almost like emblematically appropriate for you to have a silent TJ

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Because he hasn't said any of the shit that everybody says yet

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Yeah, or at least very few things

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Yeah

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You keep your, you can open your mouth on a very select basis, Tommy

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I think just keep it shut forever

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But anyway, very nice, thank you Amy, appreciate it

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Love it

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What's your bright spot?

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My bright spot was, so I've got to move all my music from one computer to another computer

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And it's gonna be a long, long time

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So I've been going, but the fun thing about that is I get to go back and I get to just listen to all of my shit

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Yeah

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And man, I got to Mama's Gun, Erykah Badu

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And that late 90s, early 2000s R&B snare sound is just the fucking best

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It's a good snare

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It's so good, like that Questlove

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Unrivaled snare

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On Phrenology, like that tight snare, oh man, it's so good

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It is good

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And then there's so many, like it's so many great bassists

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Sure

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So many great bassists

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Hubs?

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Oh, absolutely, absolutely

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I think he's dead

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Yeah, I think so too

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But yeah, so my bright spot is just Erykah Badu

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Great

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I love it

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I like how you started that too, made me think of those old days

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Like look, I don't know if the statute of limitations is up, but I used to go Kazaa, LimeWire

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Oh, I'm still

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Getting all those

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I don't use, listen, they could take any of this streaming shit away from you at any time

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So you should very much legally acquire all of this music

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Well, I prefer to buy music from artists if I can or whatever

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I guess I don't, I just use like Spotify, so I know better

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Right, right, right

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But back in the day, you know, you download all that shit

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And sometimes it happened to be that you'd get a virus or something

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And your computer would crash and you'd lose all your stuff

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And it was such a fun experience to try and rebuild your collection kind of

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Yeah, there was that

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Because you'd kind of know what most of the stuff you had downloaded was

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Yep

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And you'd be like, reassess, do I like this?

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How much do I like this?

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And then you'd rediscover some of the love of things that you'd forgotten

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And then also be like, I don't like this anymore

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I imagine the, you know, importing your catalog over

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It's kind of similar

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It's great

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You know, you get to reassess a lot

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Totally

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No, there was a column that Nathan Rabin did, I think, for the AV Club in like the late thousands

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Where he went through his entire, you know, he's a music critic

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So his catalog, yeah, absolutely

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His catalog is larger than mine, you know

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And him going through it alphabetically

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Like biting your lip and just going, I'm going to go through every single one of these

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And then like sharing like, I'm scratching this motherfucker off the list

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Get out of here! Be gone!

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Wait, I have two Bloodhound Gang albums?

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What is going on?

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I have zero Bloodhound Gang albums now

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Oh man, the bad touch?

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Yeah, so it is nice

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Was that the album? No

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I know one of their albums was called One Fierce Beer Coaster

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Oh man, I have not thought about the Bloodhound Gang for a long, long time

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For good reason

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For very good reason

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Yeah

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Yeah

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Do you remember what their first single was?

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No, but I think I remember, like, The Feeling

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Oh, you know The Feeling

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I think I remember how I felt about it

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And it's gross

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The roof, the roof is on fire

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That was their first single

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Yeah, I remember that one

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Yep

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Yep

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And then they came back with the bad touch

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Shouldn't do it

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They came back with the bad touch is never a good thing to hear

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Big hit!

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Never a good thing to hear

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No, it is certainly not

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So Jordan, another thing that's bad to hear

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Oh, are we still doing our show?

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Yeah

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Today we're going to do an episode

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Gonna be a little bit different than normal

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Because we're not covering an episode of Alex's show

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But it is still about Alex

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And so we'll get down to business on that

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But first, let's say hello to some new wonks

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Oh, that's a great idea

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So first, Raptor Princess versus the Shadow Wolves

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Thank you so much, you are now a Policy Wonk

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I'm a Policy Wonk

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Thank you very much

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Thank you

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Next, your resident homestuck guy Goomba Master

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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Thank you

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Next, Wei, W-E-Y, Kent

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Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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Thank you

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Next, Melissa H., Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk

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I'm a policy wonk

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Thank you very much

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And for my young son Ender who wanders around the house repeating I'm a policy wonk. Now you are. Thank you so much

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You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Think that kid has a game?

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Yeah, I think he might. Ender's game? Well, he might

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Oh, it's a thing? It's the name of the thing. Okay. He might be speaking for the dead right now

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So we got a technocrat in the mix Jordan. Sure. So also thank you so much to September 23rd is Brian and Sarah's first and fourth

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Anniversary. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk.

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Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

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Daddy shark. Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little titty baby

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I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Happy anniversary a month ago. Yeah

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I like I like that about I think we should I like when people send in like

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Anniversaries or stuff like that but when they're not on the date

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I mean wait, so we just fill people in on what other people's birthdays and anniversaries are? Absolutely. That's the idea. Okay

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Um, I think I took a different thing from that and that is that I assumed that first and fourth means that they were dating

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For three years and they got married on the anniversary of their first date, which would be very cute, right?

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Yeah, I think everybody should do that. You think everybody should do that or you think everybody should have to do that? Look

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Maybe the latter

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I was about to say there's a difference between those two and I felt it in your voice. When I am King

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No, I just think it simplifies things a little bit. No, I mean, yeah, of course

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And then you don't have to have like multiple dates. You're thinking in your head. Oh, when's the first date?

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Oh, when's the first kiss? When's boo? Yeah, you know, yeah

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No, no one date. That's the that's the idea. One date per couple.

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One date per couple. That's it. That's your China policy? Yeah, one date policy.

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So Jordan, today we're gonna be covering a video that Alex put out. Oh, no

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And it has to do with the news about his bankruptcy. Okay. All right

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I felt we had a fair amount of heavy bullshit

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Over the past couple episodes. Yeah, and so I wanted to steer clear a little bit of having another really heavy bullshit episode

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Good call and then also it came to my attention

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Thank you, Amanda

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That Nick Fuentes is gonna be in Austin this week and he's gonna be in studio with Alex

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So, oh, well, you got that to look forward to so wait for the whole week

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Probably not. Okay, but just at least at least for a day where they're going to debate the Israel Palestine situation

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Which I'm sorry, I don't want any part of they're going to debate the Israel Palestine situation

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I don't feel like any of that is stuff I want. I don't like those words

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Absolutely not. So we have that in the in the in front of us. Yeah, and

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Oh and Benjamin showing up in the background. Yeah. So here we are

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I thought we'd covered a bit of news about his his other situation in life

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So that big news that happened for everyone who didn't hear is that the bankruptcy court made a ruling on Alex's bullshit attempt to

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Get out of paying what he owes to the Sandy Hook families and it did not go well for him in essence

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what the court determined was that because his judgment is due to

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Intentional and malicious actions on his part the damages he owes are not dischargeable through bankruptcy

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Alex was hoping that he could declare bankruptcy and this stuff would all basically disappear, but that's not gonna happen

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This debt is gonna accompany him wherever he goes in the future

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There are two distinctions that are important to remember

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The first is that Alex has declared personal bankruptcy and also bankruptcy for his company free speech systems

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The chapter 11 sub chapter 5 reorganization scheme was for the company and it is essentially failed

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The second thing here is that there are two major cases the Texas case and the Connecticut case in the ruling judge Lopez affirmed

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1.1 billion dollars in damages as being undischargeable from the terms of the Connecticut case, but that left

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three hundred and twenty three million dollars that was awarded that may not have been the result of

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Willful and malicious actions. This was court fees and attorneys fees

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But I think it could be argued that Alex's behavior in the course of the suit was absolutely

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Strongly, I would strongly disagree with that. So I'm not sure if that will eventually be seen as willful and malicious

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They give that determination. It needs to be

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Sort of affirmed either way that decision is like Alex getting the ball forward one yard and then getting driven backwards into his own

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End zone and sacked a little bit. So it's it's it has the you know, you could say hey great news. I owe

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323 million less it is it is hard to that's huge when we're dealing with this level of number

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It is hard not to just be like, you know

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323 million is nothing in this scenario. Yeah, it is meaningless

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It's it's in any other situation owing three hundred and twenty three billion dollars thing that could ever no

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I mean less. Yeah, the best thing that could ever happen to you huge news

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This is the biggest news in the world in this case. Not not so nothing. Nothing. So with the Texas case

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It's a little bit more complicated in that case Scarlett Lewis and Neil Hessel and were awarded forty nine million dollars

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But forty four million of that was in the punitive damages and according to the New York Times quote a trial is necessary to determine

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Whether that amount meets the willful and malicious standard so that is something that will need to be relitigated

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Perhaps and that's unfortunate for the Texas plaintiffs and we'll see what happens in terms of that

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However, that's still five million dollars that is undischargeable in that case. I agree. I agree but big picture

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This is a disaster for Alex. He's on the hook for this and it's not going away

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Even if free speech systems collapses and goes away overnight. He owes this debt personally as well as professionally

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So while the court will never be able to take his primary home

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His finances are gonna be affected by this case for the rest of his life

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Regardless of what businesses he tries to start in the future. They're going to be able to

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Garnish his way any money you'd go

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He's not gonna be able to hide money places very easily in the future

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It'll be it'll be harder because it'll have to be in physical currency. Mm-hmm. That will be the harder part

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Oh, well, he's he's an old salt at burying coin

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I mean, I would not be surprised to find several million dollars that he used to bury gold and stuff like that

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No

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I wouldn't be surprised to find several million dollars in physical currency buried around his family's homes thinking Kruger and I mean

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I don't know what it's buried in bearer bonds. It's something you know

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So on top of all this Alex still has two cases that are yet to be heard which have been on hold

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Because the bankruptcy nonsense he still has the posner case where he is uniquely and deeply fucked and the Marcel Fontaine case

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Which was the case that led kit Daniels to cry in the deposition room about what he'd done to another human

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Yeah, so that doesn't look great for Alex either. No to quote Alex. This is big boy pants time

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He was never planning to use the bankruptcy system the way it's intended to to allow small businesses to reorganize and stay in business

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If they're in debt, he was trying to dodge responsibility for his actions by exploiting what he thought was a loophole that loophole didn't work

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So now there's no reason for him to continue this charade

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Alex can pretend that he has options to appeal but that's not gonna work

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He's more or less out of options to stall things and it's just a matter of time before he's forced to pay or he begins

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To risk criminal cases for non-cooperation in the aftermath of this news breaking

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Alex ran to his trusty camera and filmed a quick damage control video which we're gonna discuss here today

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His angle on this is interesting

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If only because there's a couple of really shady moments that you might notice throughout this that are petty as hell

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Okay. All right, and also it's just total bullshit. Yeah, it's well, yeah

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I can't imagine him telling any version of any true thing on this

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Yeah

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So I've noticed in life that when people are really bad and have bad things coming out about them

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sure, one of the things they generally do is

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Say hey, you're gonna hear a lot of bad things about me. It does tend to happen

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I hear that one quite a bit right before I hear a lot of bad things about somebody

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Yeah, definitely. There was the Russell Brand put out that video right before everything came out about him, but hey, there's gonna be a bad stuff

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I don't know if you've heard or watched my career at all, but people are gonna find out about the thing

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Yeah, so Alex starts off like that

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I want to respond for the benefit of our viewers and listeners and supporters with the facts of the truth

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You're gonna see headlines all over the news

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Alex Jones loses in bankruptcy hearing and that's not what happened

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I want to take the facts for you here right now. So we're gonna get to the facts. Okay, which facts Alex's facts

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I actually I was not true

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I would watch that show if it was a kids show and only around like a

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Dog or cat like themed interesting so it's like blues clues, but Alex's facts. Yeah, basically. Hmm

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So it would be like a cartoon dog tells you something and then you go on a quest to figure out if it's true or

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Not and it's always not

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Show that's my life. That would be an interesting rug pull. That's my life Jordan for children's TV

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If you just imagine his show be a cartoon dog, that's I I do imagine this you've been I've called you mr.

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Peaty peabody many times. So yeah, yeah. Oh

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Anyway, here's the truth

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This is all true. Okay win rigged control juries

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They were told in Texas and Connecticut last year that I was guilty by a judge

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The judge told the juries to find me guilty and they allowed false evidence that I have hundreds of millions of dollars into evidence

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fraud

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It was all

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Over then if I were one of the jurors in one of those cases, I might consider suing Alex for defamation

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He's saying that you were the instrument of carrying out a setup case, which is an accusation of a crime

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It's even really more than that

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It's Alex accusing you of being complicit in perverting the justice system itself

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If I were one of those jurors, I really would not appreciate that and I mean, he's he's making concrete claims

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You're not it. You're not a public figure. No, I mean, it's it's hard not to

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it's hard not to think that what should be happening right now is like a

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Flood of all the people who have needed to sue Alex for such a long time

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But knew that they couldn't because the money, you know

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He could always out out just spend them or settle or anything like that. Now's your chance

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Well settle him with it even more day

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I think that that is a functional strategy in terms of dealing with somebody like Alex just

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Overwhelming them with the consequences of their actions keep going

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but at the same time I think that a lot of people would not be within the statute of limitations and that might be a

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Frivolous act. Sure. I mean if you're not in the statute of limitations

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Yeah, people who are currently being lied about and defamed by Alex. I think that everybody should apprise themselves

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Totally, but I also respect that it's probably more hassle than it's worth

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Personally to a lot of people one hundred understand why people wouldn't want to take that on agreed

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Yeah, agreed. That's I mean that's that is kind of the situation and it's it wouldn't be for money

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You know, we're already past when money could even be you know

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Your there isn't anything left after one point something billion dollars

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That's not how that Alex owes but if you are part of the Oh

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Alex Jones sued for defamation by every single fucker

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He's lied about and it's going to happen to the next person who does that and the next person who does

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Even beyond that I think that there is an important humanizing aspect of the victims of Alex's shit

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yeah, because so many of the people who are truly hurt and

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You know affected by the shit that he puts into the world take it

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Quietly. Yeah, or do you never really know about the damage that's caused by this? Yeah, and I think that

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People giving a face to it can be helpful and I understand that that has definitely happened with the Sandy Hook families

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totally there is there is a deeper well of people who

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you know could put a human face and a

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understandable

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Relatable narrative to the pain that's caused by this shit. Yeah, and not just a face not just a face

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You should have a name. Mm-hmm. Alex Jones gets to have his name everywhere

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Well, I used face sort of metaphor. I mean, but that's that's kind of it. You know, that's the point

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Yeah, you are you are a person instead of a victim. Yeah, you are not somebody who Alex Jones the main character

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You're not a henchman that he's tossed aside on his way to get another more important person

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And maybe you're a human being and maybe that's not necessarily the case for the people who are jurors in this

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But I still would take great offense to the suggestion that I was being told what to do

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And it was a rigged court that I was complicit with I would find that to be pretty shitty come get me, bro

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So I want to take a couple claims here that he made more specifically. The first is about the finances

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Alex is a constant liar

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so he's not a good source of information about anything and he refused to turn over important financial information in the course of discovery for

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those trials

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in order to assess what his business appeared to be making the plaintiffs consulted a forensic accountant who came up with the best guess of

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What a competently run business like Alex's would make at any point if Alex wanted to clear it up and prove what he made

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And how much the business made he could have corrected the record, but he didn't the reason he didn't is anyone's guess

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But the only two explanations that make sense to me are one

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There's something very damaging in his finances that if it were publicly known would erode his audience's faith in him or two

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He makes as much or more than the accountant assessed

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He can play games of this shit for his audience

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But the court doesn't care if you say that's wrong and then refuse to prove that it's wrong with the information that you should

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Have full and easy access to yeah

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Grow up the second point. I want to touch on here is the rigged and controlled juries. What does that mean?

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They're rigged. What does it mean though and controlled how how tightly controlled are they you rig them and you control them?

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Yeah, what is it? What is exactly being alleged here that it's just a fake jury. I mean it it's it is

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Like he's trying to say here's what I imagine is going on, right?

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He's saying that we did experience the jury pool selection

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So we know there was a hundred people

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Mm-hmm, and we know they only chose this 14 or whatever and that his lawyers had input in that right, right

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but the ones that were chosen were plants and

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They're told what to do by Hillary Clinton

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obviously, or I guess it's a fully above-board process of choosing the jury and

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No after the fact the control comes in

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Okay, they kidnap their families and are holding them and saying you're gonna find Alex guilty. All right

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Is that what he's alleging? Ah, I feel like he if if kidnapped families were involved

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That's my first that's I'm throwing that out headline

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All of those jurors their families were kidnapped and that's why I was declared this point

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Alex is making such bullshit claims of why not why not throw it in there

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So the three more fun the third point I want to talk about is the framing of how the juries

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The trials excuse me were set up

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Alex says the juries were quote told I was guilty by a judge and the judges told the juries to find me guilty

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That's a fascinating construction because it's such a complete lie about what happened

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Alex had every opportunity to a jury trial about his defamation claims. He was clearly just desperate to not do that

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So he dragged his feet and stalled at every opportunity refusing to cooperate with discovery

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Various remedies were attempted until it became clear that he was not gonna cooperate with this case in any form

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So he lost in a default

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It was as if he hadn't shown up at all basically because he was that uncooperative and that non responsive to requests

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Having lost by default the trial

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Was set for it was never about guilt or innocence or in this case because it's a civil matter whether or not he was liable

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the case was about damages and how much he was gonna owe the judge didn't struck the jury that the matter of whether or

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Not Alex was liable wasn't for them to decide and that that had already been resolved

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Which is not the judge telling them to find him guilty. It's a judge explaining what the purpose of the trial is

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Further Alex had every opportunity to have his shitty lawyer Norm

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Pattison Connecticut and Raynall and Texas argue that they owe that he should owe the families a dollar or some minuscule amount

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That that's just symbolic. Yep, and that's exactly what they did and the jury's rejected their argument

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You could argue that the jury did have the opportunity to deem Alex not liable by awarding the families a dollar

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But they didn't because Alex did get his day in court regardless of whatever games he wants to play now that he's lost

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So fucking hard. He had every opportunity afforded to him and more

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Yeah, he was they bent over backwards to facilitate his ability to defend himself and he was such a shitty little baby

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Yeah, but this is where we end up. Yeah. Yeah

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And even that even when he was in the trial he was trying to insist to the jury's like listen

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The all of these are good blue-collar people to the point where eventually I remember him getting questions from the jury

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There's like why do you think we're all the same type of person asshole, you know, like he pissed off the jury

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Even if it wasn't rigged, right? He deliberately pissed off those people

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I went back and I watched Norm's closing comments from the Connecticut case

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And like you can tell how hostile an environment it is. They hated Norm

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Yeah

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They hated the arguments that he was making and they completely and flatly rejected

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The argument that Alex should not have to pay these people the money that they ended up awarding him. Yeah, he had

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Essentially a de facto way of proving his quote-unquote innocence

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Yeah, and that is convinced them to give the families next to nothing. Yeah

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I mean, that's what you would have that's your option at this point since you have completely

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Fucked up the the first part. Yeah and to the point where it would have made it would have actually have made sense

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for the summary judge for him to have gotten to a summary judgment if

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then all he has to argue in front of a juror and in front of a jury is

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Damages right because I would have guilt is beyond question. That would have been his best

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Yeah sort of strategy and I think that there might have been some hope that that's what would have ended up happening

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Based on the argument that you know, particularly Norm was making yeah

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And no, it's it was rejected. I mean people thought it was shit

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It was it was really bad and they did and not to cut them short Raynaud and

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Patus did a really bad job of lawyering on that argument as well

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But maybe it's because it's an argument that you never want to be

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No, no, no, no, no because it's bad there were times

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there were times where I saw Raynaud look down at the sheet of paper in front of him and I swear I saw him go

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Like oh, I wouldn't say that and then he said it

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And then there's the they get Norm's closing argument

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You can tell that the people are just looking at him like what the fuck is wrong with you

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Yeah, and he said like oh, I know you're looking at me

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Like what's a one lawyer at the bottom of a ocean on a good start like great try and deflect with the joke

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I mean, it's not working do the lawyers prayer. Mmm Wow

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So Alex goes on this this was judicial tyranny against the American people

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So I laughed at the time when they were giving billions of dollars to people

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Whose names I never talked about never said, you know who they were. It's not billions of dollars

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Dramatically exaggerating a little bit. But here's the thing you can start to see the angle. This isn't about Alex

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So this is about you. Yep. This is about you the American people. Yeah, this is my consequences

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Are you you should be afraid of me facing consequences? Yeah, I hear that one

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I hear we hear that one quite a bit now we do we do. Yeah, so that will become a theme here

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As will just lying. Yeah, this was the weaponization the judiciary

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So I declared bankruptcy because back when I declared bankruptcy had a few million dollars in the bank since then

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I'm upside down, but I'm still in the air and that's what matters. So the federal judge in Texas

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Basically nixed out most of claims in Texas

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But then said the stuff in Connecticut can go forward and it's not dischargeable and said it's up to our appeals

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Now remember when you see these headlines Jones refuses to pay

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1.5 billion to Sandy Hook. I have a right you have a right

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To a jury trial, but we didn't get that

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The judge found me guilty in Connecticut, Texas beforehand and also have a right to appeal

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So our appeals will take years. Those are ongoing, but I declared bankruptcy because of all the litigation. We didn't have any money

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We're we're matched out

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So Alex is gonna say more about this later

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But he's claiming that he's a million dollars in debt personally when he's saying he's upside down

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Yeah

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Which I could kind of see possibly being true

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Like if it is the only reason it's true is because he won't stop taking vacations and he owes his shitty lawyers too much

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If he really wants to make some of this money back, he needs to sue his lawyers for malpractice

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that would improve some of the

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Situation but it also would involve really touchy discovery. So don't hold your breath. That's probably never gonna happen

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It was reported that Alex spent

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$75,000 in April and

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93,000 in July so you'll have to forgive me if I don't really believe the I'm upside down thing in any meaningful way, right?

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He may literally be in the whole a million dollars, but he's living the lifestyle of someone who knows that he's still very rich

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Yeah, still very rich

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There's a there's a difference between being broke and being poor right, you know

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And then but now in like real money world where people have a lot of it

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You know, you're supposed to be in debt a million dollars

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Because then you don't spend real money on stuff and then you don't have to pay taxes on that

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So the debt is actually the way you avoid paying taxes for the real money that you keep and don't use

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And then you slowly pay. I don't like this modern world exactly. No, I don't care for it

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No

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The smartest thing in the world for Alex to do is have a million dollars of debt one because a million is so much

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People are gonna have to try and find ways to help him pay it back

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That's the nice part about owing that much. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, so Alex is welcome to appeal these cases

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But it's not gonna matter

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He's gonna lose those two and in the process waste some more time and probably add more sanctions to the pile of money

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He owes the families in court probably he already lost a request for a new trial and norm did file an appeal back in

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I believe July

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Claiming that the default judgment was wrongly issued

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They will not win that appeal the court bent over backwards to give Alex opportunity after opportunity to cooperate

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And his behavior and intentions were clear and it's documented

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Through the process like the the chances that he was given. Yep, and let's blue sky think in this thing

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Let's go ahead and open our minds up. Even if Alex were to win an appeal and the default judgment gets thrown out

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What do you think happens then Alex continues to Stonewall and not cooperate with discovery requests?

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He continues to send incompetent corporate representatives to testify and he ends up getting defaulted again

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I suspect that any decent lawyer could argue this in an appeal hearing based on the well-documented

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pattern in Alex's actions like it would be very easy, but this person is

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willfully and maliciously

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Subverting the process. So no, I mean never win an appeal

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I mean it is it is literally like a lawyer has to go your honor

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if we have to do another trial, I

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Swear to you. I'm just gonna send an assassin

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I'm not doing another six fucking years of this shit. That doesn't seem like a great appeal argument

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It's not a great appeal argument your honor. I feel like that's how bad this is

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I feel like a better argument is come on

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I mean that should be but that should have been the argument that worked at some point over the past four years

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Right. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, all Alex can do is maliciously stall and he's run out of more options

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For ways to do that this appeal will fizzle and then he's really got nothing stopping the families from collecting

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Of course

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It's easy to say that he's only got time on his side and he can you know only run out the clock for so long

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While one of the plaintiffs Erica Lafferty is struggling with cancer and can't afford chemotherapy drugs

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Well, Alex owes her millions of dollars for someone like her

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It's not so trivial a matter that Alex can stall things and delay the inevitable payments that he's gonna have to make

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But it's you know, it's unfortunately easy for people in our situation to be like well, you know

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He's gonna run out of options eventually, but there's a clock for some people where it there is a human cost

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I don't know his actions. I don't understand why it's not possible for the bankruptcy court to just be like, okay

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But before we do anything just pay for Erica

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I'm not sure I imagine that there's some kind of situation where if you make that kind of carve out then it opens up the

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Door to so many different people being able to you know, I don't know

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With life-threatening diseases. Well, but I can I can imagine every single person with a life-threatening disease

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Can get the same treatment. I imagine I'm not exactly sure what the specific situations would be

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but I can imagine circumstances where that could be abused and

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I can see why a court wouldn't allow those kinds of carve-outs for like let's

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jump the process in order to

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You know

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Get this money where it should be I could give less of a fuck about

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What I think will do would be abused I understand because that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard

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I just watched Alex abuse the courts and then now now you're gonna tell me that it's actually

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Abuse for the court to carve out money for somebody's. I'm not I'm not saying that in this case

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It would be but I'm saying that that being an option I could see in a lot of cases being abused

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I'm not saying this would be abuse. I'm saying that this would be very appropriate

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But I can understand why a court wouldn't do it. I I cannot and I refuse to accept that well

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That's where we're not going to

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Agreement, although I mean we do have agreement that it should I mean ethically it should it seems hard to imagine a situation

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Where it could be more cut and dry. Yeah, so I mean it's you know, it's kind of you know

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That that's the balancing of the like well, there's a reality why it matters that this doesn't go on forever

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but then there's also the side of it that is he is running out of options and this will continue to the the walls will

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Continue to close in to the point where this will this won't be something he's able to avoid forever

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And and you know, that's the that's the rub. Yeah. Yeah, I

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Again, I still do not believe any

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Of the legal system is going to function but I hope I hope I hope all right. So Alex has no money

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That's the thing. Yeah, except for all the money. Yeah, I've heard that. So this idea of

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We're gonna take your money away doesn't exist because the money doesn't exist. It's all political

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It's all a message to you

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that if you stand up against corruption if you stand up against open borders and human smuggling in World War three and the

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pedophilia and the transgenderism

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We're gonna get you

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Their attack on me is a message to you to shut up and roll over and be bullied and be intimidated. So, uh,

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Just a nice little reminder that trans people existing is included in that list of his great evils. So

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He's very accepting a very open-minded

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So there's plenty of people that have shows that have the same kind of bigoted content that Alex does and target the same vulnerable

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Populations he does and yet those people aren't being sued like Alex is and that's because this case isn't political

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It's the result of his actions in defaming these anti-hook families

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Alex absolutely understands that but it's really hard to fundraise by saying this is my fault

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I made a huge mistake and now I need you all to support me so I can avoid losing my status as a rich person

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Because of it

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It's so much easier to pretend you're being persecuted for your politics and that your personal consequences are actually an attack on the audience

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We talk about fear a lot

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But this is an interesting vibe because what Alex is doing is taking something bad for him and making the audience scared for themselves

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About it you the listener should fear for your safety when you see bad things happening to me

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That's an abusive fucking tone that Alex takes

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Yeah

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and also Alex has way more money than that at very least a recent filing showed personal assets of over 14 million dollars and he's

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Got tons of money in various trusts and fake companies all around free speech systems

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You can't operate a business of the size of infowars with that many employees that much infrastructure that much overhead the products

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Even if you're just like private labeling other people's products and drop shipping

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You still need to have tons of money coming in and moving through. Yep. It's just not possible

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simultaneously, you can't be someone like Alex who spends money the way he does who owns the kind of property and luxuries that he does

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Without having a lot of money you if you can spend ninety three thousand dollars in a month

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You aren't making a hundred thousand dollars in a month. You're making way more than that

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So I don't believe any of this shit. Hmm. Yeah

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Yeah, man

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You just you just compare that with the fucking

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Courage and resolve. Mmm that it took for the families to get us to this point. Mm-hmm

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the amount of courage and

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Resolve is something that I don't think we could really put into words to get us to this point over this length of time

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yeah, I mean on a fundamental level you have a situation where someone has

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participated in

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Creating a hostile environment for you over the course of years

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And you know that it will likely be worse. It will be made worse by you standing up to this bully

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Yep, choosing to do it. Anyway choosing to do it, even though as the process goes on you realize this is not going to go

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smoothly now him stalling it every

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You know every opportunity

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offering to settle for

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Ridiculous amounts watching. I mean just simply simply watching Alex be given every possible

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break every possible benefit of the doubt every possible way of coddling a

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giant

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Baby. Mm-hmm

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contrasted with

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The amount of shit that is constantly piled upon to these people

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For no reason other than the fact that they survived a tragedy. Mm-hmm

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Yeah, it's got to be tough and then you see the legal system go out

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Well, well, well, well you guys got to wait. We need to be nicer to Alex

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well, that's I mean, I think what you come to is that there is a difference between the emotion and the

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Feelings of justice and the you know, that kind of thing and the mechanical operation of justice, right?

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And those things will always be at odds

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Right. We've let it get out of control

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Because we gave the legal system to rich people. That was our big mistake. So Alex here

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He's he's talking about how he predicted all of this. He predicted that this was gonna happen

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Of course, he did but he didn't know he absolutely didn't know and then he makes a weird metaphor track this metaphor

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So you can help me understand it

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All right

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So my lawyers predicted and I predicted that the Texas case would get limited because it was so outrageous

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The Connecticut case would go forward but it doesn't matter because the money doesn't exist

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And I always have a right to be on air and communicate and because of their persecution

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We are hotter than ever more requested more demanded on shows all over the place info Wars is exploding

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so

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Alex Jones personally is being crucified and they're coming after assets that don't exist. I don't care about that

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I'm not into money. I'm wearing like a 10 year old shirt right now small blue jeans and some $20 shoes

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so it's all

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like the Wizard of Oz with Toto and

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The Wizard of Oz saying I am the great and powerful Oz but then Toto pulls the curtain back so

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Here's the bottom line. So that's a okay weird. So who's the who's the great and powerful Oz in this?

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I I can't figure it out

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Who's Toto and who's Oz says if Oz is the court saying that Alex has a lot of money and then?

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Alex is Toto pulling the curtain back to real laws

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Is that what it's supposed to be right but what's being revealed in this matter for Alex needs to be Oz

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Saying that he's not rich and then the globalists need to be Toto except they pull the curtain back to reveal that Oz is telling

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The truth I would have picked a different metaphor. Yeah, this is a bad one. It's a mess. I mean

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There's just no way to make it work. It really is a challenge. Okay, so the judge let's just judges Oz. Mm-hmm

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Baseline, right? Okay. So how do we get to Alex being Toto and revealing something about the judge?

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So here's the way it has to work

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The judge is Oz and the judge is saying Alex is super rich, right?

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Alex comes in as Toto pulls back the curtain and reveals that he's poor

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But how does that happen?

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But I mean but but so then I guess yeah, I guess the great and powerful Oz is

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Holding a big bag of money that says putting on like a show that is Alex with a big bag of money. Yeah. Yeah

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Yeah, but I I can't figure out it's not good. No, I don't think this one's gonna work

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I don't think that star is gonna fit into that square my friend

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So Alex also seems to not be dealing with the thrust of this ruling which is that he can't discharge this debt through bankruptcy

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Which has been his entire plan for like six months at least

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He's been constantly telling the audience on air that the bankruptcy is going well and that the court is looking into his finances

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And they're saying the money isn't there. It's all a fraud

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He's he's saying that all these people from the all the people were made to work for with him through the process

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What's the kick up the word? Damn it the people who are working with the bankruptcy court that are like in his in his shit

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Oh, he's saying that they're looking through all the finances. They're like, you're right Alex

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That's that's what he's been telling people

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He's been feeding them that line that the bankruptcy court is gonna swoop in and undo all the damages and now

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It's clear that's not gonna happen. There's no correcting. There's no him being like, there's no I was wrong

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Only me and my lawyers saw this coming if they saw this coming then Alex has been lying to his audience

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Constantly to keep them donating money. Yeah, that's basically what's happened. It is fun whenever you

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Have the ability to say things but then people won't connect them to what they mean, right?

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You know like or things you said before I saw this coming. Okay, if you did that means you were lying

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Yeah, are you willing to take responsibility?

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You saw this coming you have defrauded. Yeah your audience you've taken so much of our money

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Yes by saying other things on the premise that this reorganization is gonna work out and everybody's finding out that everybody

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Lied about you in the trial and all this but that's not the case

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People can just hear him say that and go that's good. Yeah, he's a step ahead

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Well, it's because he is exploiting that emotional connection of my consequences are a threat to you

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Mm-hmm. And so because that emotional stake is there

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You're not paying attention to these things that he's saying and what they imply about his past

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Actions or the lies that he's told to get to this point

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Also when Alex is talking about how he's not into money and how he's wearing all these old clothes

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There's a moment where it looks like he's trying to make sure he didn't accidentally wear one of his

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$20,000 watches which is smart to take that off before you do the I'm not into money very wise very wise

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Yeah, yeah, always always forget your bling at home whenever you're about to do that. I'm broke right? I don't have any money

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Yeah, so this next clip is where I thought I thought there was a little bit of pettiness coming in

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Mm-hmm. Here's the bottom line. The real victory here is the Connecticut lawyers and Senator Blumenthal who runs this

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Their victory in cutting Texas out of this massive

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1.5 billion dollar verdict that doesn't matter because I don't have a million dollars

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I'm over a million dollars in the hole right now personally

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And I'm preparing to sell my car and all the rest of I don't care

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What matters is the free speech and Christ said if you're for me the world be against you you will be persecuted

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So I expect this to happen. It's happening to President Trump. It's happening to you. The inflation is destroying the American people

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Sorry, which car against I guess all that tank

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What car are you gonna sell to get a million dollars?

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Maybe Chinese try selling one one or two of those boats. Yeah, or some of your properties might be a good idea

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so this is a very interesting construction because Alex is trying to pit the Connecticut plaintiffs and the Texas plaintiffs against each other as if

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They're operating opposing camps vying for Alex's money

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Obviously, they'd all like to get a chunk of what's owed to them

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But I know from interacting with both sides of the situation that they don't view it as a zero-sum game

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Like it's it's just ridiculous. Alex is only out for himself and sees the world in competitive binaries

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So the only way that he can understand this case is in that context and tries

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He thinks that there are competing forces

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Plus this allows him to portray the plaintiffs as shitty money-hungry people willing to turn on each other for a buck

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Which is far from reality

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Also, Alex needs to adjust his talking points because he's relying on old ones

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This inflation thing was a COVID talking point

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Then it was definitely true in 2021 and 2022 which saw inflation rates of seven and six point five percent respectively

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But that number is way down in 2023

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Particularly since April we've seen major dips in inflation rates and the most recent available data is for September at

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3.7 percent compared to 8.2 percent in September of last year

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These trends are going in the right direction and though the numbers are higher than pre-pandemic numbers. It's headed back towards the previous normal

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But Alex knows that it's a buzzword that he's built up in the audience's mind

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So you can just hit that button and evoke all the feelings of the globalists trying to ruin you financially

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Through it. So that's the that's the game

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Update you're talking points. Yeah, that one's that one's rough

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I I do I do recognize like the the low the base cunning of it, you know, like the

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Obviously it makes sense you've got two different lawsuits you get two different outcomes from the judge

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So you figure maybe this will will have some fun some sort of function

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But boy you picked the wrong folks to try and do that with I

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Would have been

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From everything granted. I don't know everybody or any

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That's true, but I do know from everything I have experienced and everybody that I've talked to you

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There's a tremendous amount of solidarity between the plaintiffs in both cases

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And beyond yeah, so like I I think that this is

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reveals more about Alex

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Alex is so bad. Mm-hmm that a

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Species known for divisiveness will band together to defeat them hates it

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Yeah, so we getting some Mark Twain quotes here, which is always fun cuz what that's from Missouri, right mark, right?

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Yeah, yeah, I'm from Missouri. That's true. That's fun

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Mark Twain said

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Rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated. They kept saying he was dead all the time and he didn't die for like 30 years

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So I want to quote Mark Twain again in the beginning a patriot is a scarce man hated feared and scorned

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But in the end when his cause succeeds the timid joined him because then it cost nothing to be a patriot

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I am so blessed to be in the crucible so blessed to be under this attack. Yeah, what a blessing

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so if you listen to Alex enough you start to realize that when he was young he must have just spent some time memorizing a

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Couple quotes which he now just repeats constantly that twain one about the Patriots

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That's definitely one of his favorites

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But it just kind of gets annoying how he shoehorns these quotes in all the time. Like it's some mark of literacy

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yeah, like having read a bunch people think that quotes are like a

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Measure of yeah. Yeah, it's weird. So that first twain quote is also not in context

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What happened there was that there were rumors circulating in 19 18 woof. Fuck. I wrote 1987. That is not correct

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So close, I think it was 1897 rumors of his death in 1987. They were right on exactly right on no exaggeration whatsoever

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Yeah

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1897

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There were rumors that he had died or he was very sick

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This was based on one of his cousins falling severely ill and then communications not being very advanced back in those days

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He was contacted by a journalist from the New York Journal

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To comment on the rumors of his death and twain explained the situation with his cousin and said quote

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The report of my illness grew out of his illness the report of my death was an exaggeration

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It's not quite as fun or dishy in its original context and phrasing

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Yeah, what Alex has done is he's wrote a story about it in his head about why twain would say this

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Obviously people have been constantly assuming he was dead and as opposed to it being the result of a specific

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Misunderstanding. Yeah, it's basically like he's using this in the context that villains use it in movies as opposed to yeah

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That's where he's going from as opposed to like actually twain. Yeah, and

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It's it's just it's just like or maybe some heroes and movies

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Why would you be

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Like I don't understand it. You're an adult. You don't need to do this like eighth grade like oh, I'll just make up

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, no people were constantly saying that Mark Twain was dead all the time. Why why would you say that?

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well because what are you doing because Alex is the master of

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Assuming things and making up stories in his head and then repeating them to his audience as established fact

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Which is a fancy way of saying a lion. It's just it's just such a weird me fabrication

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Well, you know

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It's it's kind of the same impulse that would lead you and you're a kid to be like my uncle works at Nintendo and he

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You know, like it's the same kind of instinct of needing to seem interesting and needing to know things

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And yeah, it's it's it's just a childish impulse. No, it's like yeah, it's like that Mike Birbiglia

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Story about the the kid growing up who would just lie about real weird things that weren't impressive to other kids

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You know, like my dad's a state treasurer and you're like what who cares who cares?

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And also why what so with that second quotation the one about the Patriots?

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That's a that's a that's from a notebook that Mark Twain had it's in a section called

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Maxim's in the rough

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Essentially this was a place where he was trying to work out some pithy say he was gonna use to float on the public

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I love that just before this quote Mark Twain had written quote pops is down in the stye

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You'll know him from the Hogs because he's got his hat on

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That one didn't stick earlier in the session

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He has the series of wordings for a potential new zinger quote

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None, but the dead have free speech quote

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None, but the dead are permitted to speak the truth quote in America as elsewhere free speech is not as confined to the dead

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This is a comedian's notebook, man

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He was working out bits trying to move words around and see if he can come up with something that he wants to bring to

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The stage the fact that the pant that Patriot quote is it in this section?

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It's the only place it appears in Twain's published catalog

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It kind of makes you think that it wasn't fully cooked. Maybe he wasn't done with that one yet. That's funny

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Also, this notebook is wild

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It's just stray thoughts that Mark Twain had and some of them were kind of a bummer like this one quote

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We are all inconsistent

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We are offended and resent it when people do not respect us and yet no man deep down in the privacy of his heart as

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Any considerable respect for himself? Oh

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deep mark

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Listen listen, I wouldn't want it when I when I die

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Believe me. All of my notebooks will be burned Samuel. I don't want any of that shit left alive. Mmm

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I imagine it'll be bleaker than than that

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It would be pretty bleak. There's no like turn of phrase or interesting like cleverness to that

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It's an observation right but not you wouldn't hear that be like classic Twain

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It's fair and not for nothing also

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Mark Twain really doesn't like the idea of patriotism much elsewhere in the notebook

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He says this quote talking of patriotism what humbug it is. It's a word that which always commemorates a robbery

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There isn't a foot of land in the world

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Which doesn't represent the ousting and re-ousting of a long line of successive quote owners who each in turn as patriots with proud

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Swelling hearts defended against the next gang of robbers who come in to steal it and and did and become the selling

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But become the swelling-hearted patriots in their turn. Yeah

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There's another point where he says quote a man can be a Christian or a patriot

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But he can't legally be a Christian and a patriot except in the usual way

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One of the two with his mouth the other with his heart. I don't know

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I guess what I'm saying is that Twain is a guy who's always boiled down to these pithy statements

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But reality is often more complex than can be captured in an aphorism

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The important thing to remember is that Alex absolutely never read this notebook of Twain's and only knows this quote from some right-wing ass meme

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He saw or some white nationalist leaning publication that his dad got in the mail

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Which I used to Twain's quote to justify whether ranks are so small

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Why aren't there as many racists as that?

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We think there should be I mean because a patriot is a scarce man really is it really is a fucking tragedy

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for

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Samuel Clemens

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unused words

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unpublished on purpose are then given to a

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Fucking monster and used as a cudgel to lie and hurt people something that Mark Twain

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Famously not a fan of also if Mark Twain says hey in tough times. There are many patriots

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But then when it's easier to be a patriot there are more people on that side. Yeah, that's not a positive thing

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He's saying well, but also well, it's not a positive thing about generally the population, but then also why do we believe it's true

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So he just said it that doesn't mean it's true. No if you say some smart things

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Then a ton of smart things have to be true

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Also, if you look at it in the context of like the parts that come around that it's clearly more a condemnation of the public

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Yeah, you know it's it's everyone's a coward

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People will yeah, that's he's he's rewriting history is written by the victors. Mm-hmm. That's what he's doing with that quote

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Not not like oh

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Oh, he's actually a good guy from the start and then after murdering a bunch of people everybody's like wow he is a good guy

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Yeah, I think it's debatable, but that's probably just based on how it's phrased in the in the text

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Yeah

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But I think I think you could assume that there are in there might be an instance that he's describing where someone is a good

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Person from the start and he's hated and scorned for it, but as people come to agree with his

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Conclusion their cowardice goes away sure and that is kind of close to what Alex is saying

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But it's less about the person who's a patriot and more about can get on the cowards

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But either way, I don't know

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I just wanted to look into something and basically turned out Mark Twain's a notebook with it that works out

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So Alex just needs money. That's really what it comes down to

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yeah, and so to me as long as they're mind control as long as they're

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Jedi mind trick doesn't work on me. I continue on I win

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It's not working on me

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Don't let it work on you your support of info wars comm your support of band out video

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You're buying on the products. You're spreading the word. You're sharing the links is

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scaring the establishment to its core

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Now it gets into complex issues, but free speech is separate from me

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Free speech is still on air operating going forward and if they shut that down

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We got a thousand new

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Operations ready you got mug, but it looks like they won't be able to but regardless

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Alex Jones's persecution is a symbol of our strength. It's a symbol of our will

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It is an honor as a warrior for humanity to stand for the people and to not back down. I knew this was coming

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I'm surprised they haven't already killed me

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So I'm here thanking you for your support

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So what you can do now is spread the word about the broadcast

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When they demonize me and lie about me stand up for me because they see me as an archetype of you as the populous man

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Standing up for freedom. Yeah, so I mean it is really just the like what you boil down this entire video

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Too is essentially my consequences are a threat to you

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Yeah, and if he can instill that into the audience's mind

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Which I think he's done a fairly good job of doing over the years

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Yeah

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Then no bad news or negative thing about him really affects the true audience believers mind

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Well, like they're always going to see whatever terrible thing comes out about Alex as an attack on them

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Right, and that's kind of sad in order. I mean

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Yeah in order for this to change

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Alex has to go away and they have to realize they don't care about Alex and all of the stuff, you know, like

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Mm-hmm, eventually you kind of hope that they will like realize that nothing happens and it yeah exactly

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like even if Alex is still there they they have like sort of a

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You know watershed moment where they open their eyes and see like wait a second. Yeah, it's gonna be fine. This keeps going on

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Yeah

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I mean I want what I want is the I want Alex to be gone for long enough for them to stop caring and then

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For Alex to ask and them to go. Oh, we don't care about you anymore. And that's what I want

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we realize that you were manipulating us by pretending that you could fill an emotional need that we have for safety and security and

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It turns out you can't and we resent you for it. Yeah, that would be nice. That would be an ideal situation

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yeah, and then the other thing too that you have to you know, that's obviously entangled with this very heavily is the

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Notion that Alex has of consequences equaling virtue

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yeah, that he's instilled in the audience where all these negative things are happening to me because I'm so right and so

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Dangerous to the globalist. Yeah, and as long as those two ideas those pillars are in people's minds

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It's very difficult for any negative information about him to stick. Yeah, I mean you've got

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Armor, that is I mean, I mean it's main character armor level, you know, it's it's insane get this though

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Well, it's main character armor in the audience's life. Yeah, it's it's like yeah

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You can't kill him. You are the main character of the audience's life. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely

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Absolutely, they give you more than they are

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yeah, so Alex if he gets back to his note of the

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The case is being opposed to each other right in this next clip. So this victory is Connecticut

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Swooping in and getting the billion-plus dollars from Texas, which doesn't exist

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It's like they're fighting over a lottery ticket. That's six months old and was a bad number

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So I don't like to laugh at these people, but I mean, I don't know how you don't I am upside down a million dollars personally

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I've never been happier

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Thank you so much for your support

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Thank you so much for your word of mouth and don't let these wizards these alchemists manipulate your mind

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I think he's talking about literal wizards

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Yeah, I believe he is talking about people who are capable of using don't let Gandalf turn you against magical powers

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Don't superhuman don't let Merlin the magician turn you against me. I don't think he's talking about the big names

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I think he's talking about the low-level

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Magicians, you know somebody who's uh, somebody who's doing regular don't let Uri Geller turn you against me. Listen, don't let your

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I'm gonna second that one

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Don't let the guy on the corner doing close-up magic. I'm running out of magicians

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So, yeah, this notion is very bizarre and again

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It's it seems like Alex had a couple of points in his mind of like, all right

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These are the things that I'm gonna do in order to deflect from this news

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Yeah, there's going to be the turning the cases against each other in the audience's mind

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Yeah out of out of nowhere for no reason and then the other is just the standard

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My consequences are a threat to you

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Yeah

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And I think that that is his response and I think it's probably a good response for the audience

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Like I think it's effective for them. It's all bullshit, but like you can see that it could land

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I mean, you can't you just can't say like wow. This one's the one that did it. Mm-hmm

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You know like this one's the very bad news

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Yeah, it is it is like but you have to you have to present something

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Anything other than this now is official. I now have a billion dollars that I can't discharge through bankruptcy

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I have I am now wearing the

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Giant this my life will never be the same from a financial perspective until I die. Yeah. Yeah, or

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Somehow pay off a billion

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Yeah, so I guess I guess you can understand why he would do that

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yeah, but the other thing too that I find really interesting is this this like the

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Connecticut case is sucking away the Texas one. Like it's very strange because of scale, you know

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The Connecticut ones like a billion dollars. Yeah, and the Texas one was only 49 million

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I think I I think this one actually is personal

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I think it's just he he doesn't like that Connecticut gets more money than Texas as a state issue

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Mm-hmm. He's not talking about any of the actuality any of the details of this person

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Petty reasons it is 100%

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Texas is a better state

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Cuz at the very least they're in Texas

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Right cuz he doesn't think about these I guess mark lives in Texas the lawyers do that's true

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So anyway, Alex's side is winning

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That's the thing the globalists are afraid because they're winning the globalists are losing

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Populists are being elected everywhere and they're indicting them whether it's Bolsonaro in Brazil or whether it's the leader 20 points ahead

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that's a great patriot in Argentina, we're getting people elected in Italy and

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Sweden and and and and and and the

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Provinces in Canada everywhere. There's too many examples list them all we are winning. There's too many examples to list them all

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That's why I struggled to come up with a few. Yeah, so Bolsonaro didn't win. So that's fine

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And you know if he's being prosecuted it's for crimes he committed he did also Alex has lately been warming up to this Argentinian

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Candidate Javier Malay because he's heard people refer to him as Argentina's Trump, right?

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Alex knows literally nothing about this guy

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But because that's his branding Alex is fully supporting him that said if Alex did learn anything about him

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Including even just knowing his name. He would support this guy

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Malay is a fucking lunatic who's proposing more or less to demolish the Argentinian government from within

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One of the things he's proposing is doing a massive overhaul of the monetary system and in his campaign

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He's really been disparaging the peso going so far as to call it excrement and suggesting full

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dollarization or adopting the US dollar as the legal tender currency in the country the fact that he's a major political figure now and he

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Won the primary led to a collapse in the value of the peso along with looting and hoarding of goods after the primary

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The peso was about 600 equaling a dollar before the primary which jumped to over 1,000 after

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That's why earlier this month the prosecutor filed a case against Malay accusing him of quote deliberately causing a drop in the Argentine currency

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There's no indication of whether or not a judge will sign off on the case and it may ultimately go nowhere

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You could say that his entire campaign is based on exploiting the fears that people have around the economy

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So acting in ways that are designed to worsen the economy could be a very manipulative tactic meant to bolster your campaign

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However, just saying that this could be a possible motivation

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Someone has doesn't prove that that's what they actually did or meant to do

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I suspect that this case that's filed against Malay will not move forward unless there's some pretty damning evidence somewhere that hasn't been presented

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I don't know about but he's just a shitty right-wing ass populist candidate

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Who's Trump Ian in nature, right and I heard he would also allow you to sell your organs

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Yeah, I did see that too. Ah now

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Organ sales see that's what I'm saying. Mm-hmm. I like a good organ sale

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so the situation in Argentina is bad and you hear a lot of people who express the sentiment that voting for Malay is a

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Chaotic move, but they feel they're already in total chaos. Yeah. Yeah, just blow it up things are already bad

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So how much worse can this guy make it seems to be a prevailing attitude?

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We're recording this episode on the 22nd, which is the day of the Argentine election

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So I'm not sure as we speak what the result is

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But no matter what you can expect that Malay will contest the results

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He's already been making the standard Trump style claims of voter fraud during the primary even though he won laying the groundwork for

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like a fraud claim that he can make if he loses the general

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Italy's Prime Minister, Giorgia Maloney

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joined a neo-fascist

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Italian social movement when she was 15 and was the national leader of the student wing of the rebranded party the National Alliance

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Which called itself quote post-fascist

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This party was part of burlesque oni's coalition government and this rose her to profile in politics

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To a high level where she then started her own party in 2012 the brothers of Italy which used iconography

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That was meant to be reminiscent of that those fascist parties of the past

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You may say that Maloney herself isn't necessarily a fascist

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But her party is a lot of members who are sympathetic to that ideology and her actions like her choice of logo

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They're meant to appeal to this faction in society

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She uses the language of the extreme right-wing stuff like demonizing immigrants are using pro-family to mean anti

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LGBTQ to appeal to a broader base

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But she is the head of a party that welcomes within its ranks folks who would prefer to revert to fascist rule

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Yeah, she's a very troubling figure and Alex knows nothing about her including her name

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The only thing he knows is that people lump her in with Trump and Bolsonaro

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So that means she's cool in his book

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You remember all the times that Alex says that he just does the opposite of what he thinks the globalist wants

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He means that literally it's very reflexive

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So in Sweden Alex doesn't really know what he's talking about, but essentially an extreme right-wing party called Sweden Democrats Party

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they got over 20% of the vote in the last election which shifted the makeup of the government and led to the resignation of the

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Former coalition and the formation of a right-leaning government the issue is that Sweden Democrats is part

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It's a party that grew out of post World War two Nazis wanting to assert power in

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The years after the war groups like Nordic realm party and keep Sweden Swedish formed and receded

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However, I'll read to you here from an article in the Boston Review quote in 1988 leading figures from these groups came together to form

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The Sweden Democrats during the party's most radical years in the 1990s

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It was led by a convicted former Nazi activist Anders Klarsholm who was infamous for skinhead street violence

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Just ahead of the recent election the party published a white paper

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Establishing that one of its founders had been of often SS volunteer during World War two

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They are a party that doesn't really shy away too much from their Nazi origins and their entire political project is to quote

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recreate the demographic

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Homogeneity of Sweden by any means necessary

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That's what Alex considers to be his side winning because that's his side. That's what he wants in the US

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Yeah, as far as Canadian provinces go. I have no idea what he's talking about this month

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There was just an election in Manitoba

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But a center-left party won that in May there were elections in Alberta where the Conservative Party retained control of the Legislative Assembly

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But also lost 11 seats compared to the left-leaning party that gained 15 in April

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There was an election in Prince Edward Island

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But the status quo remained mostly the same with the center-right party retaining the majority

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Alex can't be talking about Ontario's 2022 election because Doug Ford won that I know that Alex hates him

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Maybe he's talking about Quebec where the coalition

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Avenir Quebec, which is a nationalist center-right party retain their majority, but they also won that

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Majority in 2018 before this I don't know what he's talking about. I think Alex might like Doug Ford again

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I think so. I think Ford has done some I think I remember recently in the past like six months to a year

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He's done some right-wing Trump shit, but he was reelected in 2022, right?

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So it's not like this is a new thing like the glow there were their sides starting to win

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I'm telling you. I think it's just like I think it is like the way that I'm describing

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It now is the reason that I think I'm right is because I am

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Remembering it the way that I would similar that I think Alex would which is like I'm pretty sure Doug Ford did some right-wing Trump

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Shit, we'll put him in the list today. I I can see that

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I don't know

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I know that I've heard him speak disparagingly of Ford in the past

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Yeah, but I could see I could see the alliances shifting. I mean the Queen was a good person

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For a while. We've got anybody anybody's fair game at this point. You could you can flip Doug Ford for sure. Yeah. Yeah

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Yeah, um, but yeah

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I don't I that if that's the case that one of the only things in the

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Sort of provincial elections that I could see as being like what he's talking about

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Yeah

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it's the only thing I can think but then beyond that you have the

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Rising in power of a party in Sweden that grew out of neo-nazi skinhead street violence. You have

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Georgia Maloney in Italy who has a party Nazi

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Well, at least fascist nostalgia is one of the ways that I've seen people describe it

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Do you mean people who aligned with the Nazis?

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and then a very very

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libertarian ass

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Organ selling Trump guy in Argentina. Yeah. Yeah, these are the winds that Alex is having and that's that's upsetting

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Yeah, you know when you go to a party and you turn and you look around at all the people around you

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That should tell you who is at that party. Oh, yeah

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And who you are? Yeah. Yeah, if if the Sweden Democrats Wow bunch of Georgia Maloney's followers

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This weird

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Axis powers

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Trying to recreate the axis powers

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It's scary. So we have one less clip here. Japan is also trying to create a more homogeneous

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But Alex hasn't said no, I know and also that's not true

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Japan is going out of their way now to try and get more people in that's why Alex is against them

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That's also because they don't have enough children. They're

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Losing people. It's an island. It is an island. Yeah, so we have one last clip here and I feel like this is Alex

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Like I really feel some purity here on his part. Like this is some pure Alex

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The globalists are losing and as men that asked for the fight and got in the fight when the enemy

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Hits us we gotta expect that we stood up

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We asked to take our legs and we're getting what we asked for

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So I'm so happy right now. I'm so invigorated right now to be standing with you. That's the truth

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You'll find the reality of what's going on at info wars calm force last show and all the interviews I do

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And everything else we do but regardless doesn't matter. I'm standing before God right now. God's watching

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And what God wants is me to put in a hundred and ten percent

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And I fall like the Alamo. It's an example to everybody else to win the larger war and if I got a fall like Colonel Travis

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And my family and my history in Texas, I'm reliving that again

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and

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If that's the case, I'm supposed to be an example people. This is a honor, but regardless

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I'm gonna fight all the way as hard as I can to the end

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And I appreciate you all

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God bless and good luck. Good luck. Does he believe that he is the reincarnated Colonel Travis?

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Well, I don't know probably but I do know and we talked about this hundreds of episodes ago

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Alex is obsessed with seeing himself as Colonel Travis. Yeah, and

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That I think is such a pure aspect of him like this obsession with his own like noble destruction

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yeah, or something and it's like if if you want to be Colonel Travis just

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Fucking stop with the stalling your feet be Colonel Travis already. I

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Mean he is well in the sense that he's a loser liar drunk. That's what I'm saying

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Like for sure, it's fascinating in so far as he thinks he's mythologically following the mythological

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Colonel Travis when in reality, he's following the real Colonel Travis. Yes, it is it is when

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nonfiction and fiction collide the line

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It sounds like I feel like if we are if holding Alex next to the Alamo

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we can break through into a fantasy world that becomes real because the

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The barrier between false and real is gone, you know, you know, it's interesting here

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What um your argument maybe not the magical wall breaking part

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Maybe not that part. No, but the part where the he thinks he's following the mythological version

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But he is actually following the real person who is a loser. Yeah, and a weirdo. Yeah

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You now are making an argument that makes me think that he is the reincarnation

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That's what I'm saying, you know, he is destined to just follow the real path, right?

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Well insisting that there's some higher-minded noble right battle that he's involved in

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The thing is it's not just the being a lying loser drunk

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But it's the it's also the delusional aspect that that is tied together with that. Mm-hmm so

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Inextricably. Mm-hmm

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It's very very fascinating and then and then the other just part of this is the perfect purity

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Alex is like it all just comes down to go to the website. Yeah now donate give me money

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It's all that's all this is. Yeah. No, I do wonder I was texting you a little bit about this when the

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announcement happened of the the

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Mm-hmm the judgment. Yeah, I

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See very little reason for Alex to keep free speech systems around much longer, right?

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That is not going to be something that is in his best interest

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Because it is subject to this bankruptcy

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Yeah, if he can start a new company that would be the thing to do and then just let

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Free speech systems be taken right at the very least the company itself is no longer

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There's no reason for him to bring money into it right that is just going to be churned through this bankruptcy system

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right when in theory he could start another business and

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Like have it not be right. Well, he could start a new thing that he could use as a piggy bank, right?

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The only thing is though is like oh, he's also personally but what is what is well

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Yeah, but I mean the reason that you would start a new thing is because sure they can guard it in your mom's name

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You can garnish your wages and all of that stuff, but they can't actually like the business itself isn't bankrupt

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In this case Alex and FSS are both bankrupt

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Yeah, but I don't see any way that Alex can form a media company that isn't just FSS

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Right, but you could start a new one. Can you do that? I

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Feel like you can't just start the you can't have a company you can't you shutter it and then do the same company

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I think I'm wrong. You can I think everybody evil has done that

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I think you can but maybe you can't use the assets of free speech system. Yeah. Yeah, so Alex would be kind of

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Start fresh. Yeah, because I don't think that he could develop the infrastructure all of that stuff again. I

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Mean he didn't in the first place. You can just ask his dad to do it. Well, that's that's that might be fair way back

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But in terms of the process I was being petty and I enjoy okay. I enjoyed it. Okay. All right, hey

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Fucking Tom Petty over here

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So anyway, yeah the

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Load of shit. Yeah, just a load of shit. Yeah, he's

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like I said, I think that the the

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Options that he has for stalling are closing around him and no matter what the stalling is now a situation where?

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Once all the options are exhausted. You can't get rid of this debt. Mm-hmm. And that has got to be a really

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tough

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Pill to swallow because you hope that you can get away from it. You hope you can aha

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I almost had you right but it not being dischargeable means

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You're not you're not getting away from it

Unknown Speaker (01:16:14.060)

Well cuz and the the problem there is if you're a scammer and a swindler, which Alex is

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Now you're not doing one scam, right?

Unknown Speaker (01:16:23.460)

You're not doing one swindle

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You have to find a way to scam and swindle the government and the bankruptcy court out of every single dollar

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Like every paycheck you get you got to find a way to get it into cash before the government can see it

Unknown Speaker (01:16:36.539)

You know, it's awesome news swindle every time. Yeah brutal and another thing too

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If you're a scammer and a swindler, one of the things that is most important is your freedom of movement

Unknown Speaker (01:16:46.579)

Oh, yeah, you want to be able to get out of town if you have to you got to be able to get out

Unknown Speaker (01:16:50.500)

Of time when you have this debt that is basically a ball and chain. It's never gonna limit your movement

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It limits your ability to run a new scam run

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various other scams

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One of the reasons that Alex has been able to set up the situation that he has with free speech systems and all these shell

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Companies and trusts and stuff is because no one was paying attention. You know one was looking now

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He tries to do this kind of stuff. He's never gonna be able to get away with it. So no

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He's got to leave the country. I think oh you could go to Argentina

Unknown Speaker (01:17:20.979)

I mean

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It's it's it's got to be the the ultimate irony of of his life is to be the Patriot is to be exiled

Unknown Speaker (01:17:28.659)

From the Patriot expatriating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he has to be exiled from the country

Unknown Speaker (01:17:33.939)

He professes to love so much but I'm never to return if Trump loses in 2024. There's a very

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Convenient narrative way for him to do that though. Sure, you know be like well look the Globals have taken over too much control

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There's no hope of anything in the United States. You got to get out. I formed a redoubt

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Somewhere. I don't know. Also. I'm not gonna tell anybody and I'm not leaving through customs

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So we'll be back with another episode

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but

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You know, it might involve Nick Fuentes and

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Oh God, but until then we have website indeed. We do. It's all right to come. We're also on Twitter

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We are on Twitter's ad knowledge underscore fights. Yep. We're also

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Gonna be back

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Yikes

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Somebody wasn't thinking nope until then until I think we'll be back

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I'm neo I'm Leo

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Look look there was a little bit of a fumble there. I'll be the first to admit your gold

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I'll be the first to admit that was not smooth. No one's judging you. I'm DZX Clark

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And now here comes the sex robot Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding

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Oh Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you