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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.

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I'm sick of them posing as the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys.

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I love you.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Try.

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I'm Dan.

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I'm Jordan.

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We're couple dudes.

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I like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex

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Jones.

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

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Jordan.

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Dan!

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Jordan.

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I have a quick question for you today.

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Uh, sure.

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What's your bright spot?

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I'm going to delay mine until a little bit later, but I'm curious about what yours is.

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All right.

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Well, Dan, it's TANUS!

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Tanus.

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Tanus.

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Alcatraz.

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Uh, yeah, Alcatraz.

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Uh, US Open starts tomorrow.

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Uh, I'm excited.

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He should really start doing stuff like, no one has escaped Alcatraz, and shit like that.

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Like, there's so many.

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He can't do it.

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Here's the problem.

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He could show up as, like, the bird man.

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He could have a bunch of different characters that were, like, prisoners from Alcatraz and

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show up to psych out his opponents.

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No, it would be fun.

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The problem is, his entire ethos, he's just pure and utter joy at being the best at something.

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Oh, right.

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Like, he can't be mad.

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He's smiling and laughing all the time.

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It's terrible.

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He's great.

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He's the greatest.

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There's got to be someone who's at Alcatraz that could embody that.

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Yeah.

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Oh, no, there is.

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There's a guy named Holgeroon, who's a fucking viking-ass shit.

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Yeah, that's the guy.

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All right.

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That's the guy who wanted to do it.

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Send this message to Alcatraz.

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All right.

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Anyway.

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Okay.

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What's going on?

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Is it, or is it something?

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It's the US Open.

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It's the something open.

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It's the last major of the, no, it's, here's what it is, all right?

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It's one more opportunity to see Alcatraz and Djokovic go at it.

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Sure.

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The Wimbledon final, five sets, one of the most electrifying matches I've ever seen.

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Right.

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Sampras versus Agassiz.

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Something like that.

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The Cincinnati Open final, two weeks ago?

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Three sets, one of the best matches I've ever seen.

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Let me ask you a question that's really basic.

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What's that?

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It certainly is part of me not knowing anything about tennis.

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Sure.

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So the Cincinnati Open happens.

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Yeah.

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Does this feed into the US Open?

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Uh, no.

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So it's not like a qualifying thing?

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No, no, no, no.

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Okay.

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There are a, there are qualifying-

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I assumed there were, but I didn't know if it was like different cities have their things

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and then that all goes to the, the main-

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No, there's, so there's three levels of ranking points.

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You've got an ATP 1000, 500, and 250, right?

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250 has a, you know, super low ranked outside of the top hundred.

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500 is a, you know, has people all the way up there.

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Sometimes you'll even get a Rafa or a Djokovic or something like that.

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And then a thousand is one step below a major.

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Okay.

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So the Cincinnati Open was a thousand.

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All right.

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So, but there's a lot of quality players.

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All the best players.

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All the best.

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All the best players play the thousand best.

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And if they win, they get that green jacket.

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They get a green jacket every time.

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There are roughly 40 green jackets given up per year.

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Okay.

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It's a lot of green jackets.

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It all makes sense now.

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Kind of devalues the jacket, really.

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So does the fact that it's green.

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I'm excited for you.

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I'm very happy for you to get to watch some guys go.

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It's a lot of fun.

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Some grunting.

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Yep.

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There is so much.

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People watching the line and arguing about it.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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I'm looking forward.

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So the hope is, the hope is for me, TFO.

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TFO is the American, grew up, you know, immigrant story.

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His dad was a janitor at a place, you know.

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Sure.

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Grows up hitting stuff.

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Now he's one of the top 10.

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Nice.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So he's in the mix?

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He's in the conversation?

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Totally in the conversation.

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But realistically, everybody is like, we're just going to see Alka-Raz and Djokovic in

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the end.

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So yeah, here's the other thing that's great about this is that it's the US Open, so you

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don't have to stay up all kinds of nonsense hours to watch it.

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Do you know what's fun about that?

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Yeah.

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Not true.

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Usually goes to one.

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That's not as bad as some of those other ones, though.

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It's not as bad as having to wake up at four for the French Open.

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Yeah.

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That's nice.

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That's a challenge.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That one's rough.

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They just had, today as we're recording this, they just had All In, the AEW pay-per-view.

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Oh, sure.

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It was taking place in London, and some of those London fans are always mad that pay-per-views

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are on US time.

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Sure, sure.

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This was their payback.

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Yeah, well, I mean the payback pay-per-view.

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Except it was at noon.

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It started at noon today, so it wasn't tough for anyone to stay up here, but yeah, in reverse

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it's tough for them, because they end up having to stay up all night to watch WrestleMania

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and shit.

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Yeah, that's the problem with being ahead in time is that in order to truly screw over

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the US fans, you have to start at like eight, which is like you're the ones in trouble because

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I'm just going to wake up later.

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Joke's on you, London.

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Exactly, exactly.

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You've got to go back in time in order to screw over the people ahead of you.

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So we have an episode to go over today, Jordan.

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We're going to be talking about August 24th, 2023.

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That was Thursday, and that was the day after the Trump-Tucker interview, and so I was kind

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of thinking that we were going to check in and get some Trump-Tucker interview stuff,

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but all Alex does is brag about how many views it got, and then he plays a little clip of

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it.

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There's not much analysis, and the entire third and fourth hour are made up of him playing

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his interview that he did with Andrew Tate, so...

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Okay, so are you telling me that even in the Trump-osphere, right, nobody paid attention

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to the Republican debate, and nobody really paid that much attention to the Trump-Tucker

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interview other than to be like, see, look at how great it is.

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I understand there was a fella named Doug at the Republican debate.

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I truly believe the only people that paid any attention to that at all were the people

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forced to cover it.

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Yeah, yeah, and a couple of people who have been texting me about the vague teeth.

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So yeah, there's not a whole lot to go over on this episode, but there is some stuff in

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it.

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It's pretty stupid and awful, but we'll get down to business on that, but before we do,

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Jordan, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

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Oh, that's a great idea.

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And I have some new sound effects.

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Ooh.

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They will not be permanent ones.

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They are just for today and for what will end up being my bright spot.

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Okay, okay.

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So first, Don DeGrande-Parish, thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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We're here.

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Next.

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Quizawonk Hatterapped, I see down the genetic lines of both wonks and raptors.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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We're here.

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Next, my therapist told me to stop listening to Knowledge Fight, so I called him a loser

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little titty baby.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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We're here.

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Next, Timothy Lawrence, the patron saint of student loan forgiveness.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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We're here.

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Next, I don't know what esoteric Chicago area comedy reference to make, but it's currently

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between the cinema snob Brad Jones and Chad the Bird.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a policy wonk.

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Oh boy.

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We're here.

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I would have gone with Diamond J. Harris or something.

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Yeah, I always go with Diamond J. Or our old friend Adam Crotius.

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Sure, definitely Crotius.

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Crotius is a great one.

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These are esoteric, because maybe not that esoteric, but people who have been around

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a long time.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Nothing quite like a good Crotius.

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Sure.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to Harry quitletting guys

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named carnivorous plant species as car-ack.

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Thank you so much.

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You are now a technocrat.

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I'm a policy wonk.

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I was the color red.

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No!

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Black and white.

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A lot of leftists like Sean Penn and others are calling for nuclear war like it's funny.

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People buy and sell fear.

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They worship war.

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They crave war.

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But I'm not afraid of their wars.

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I created war.

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And I think it's time for the masses to wake up, wake up, wake up!

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I just think it's some of the best coffee you're going to find anywhere.

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It's wake up America, Patriot blend.

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What about you, man?

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That's what I want to know.

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Aren't you tired of feeling unwanted?

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Aren't you tired of feeling like an outcast and being stepped upon?

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Well then today is your day!

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Because today is the day that Bray Wyatt decided he was going to die.

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I'm tired of feeling like an outcast and being stepped upon, but then today is your day!

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I don't like to hype things, but people are designed to hype.

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You do as you're told, so says the man.

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You see what they want you to see, and you feel whatever it is they want you to feel,

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but I am different.

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Where you see a blank canvas, I see a beautiful painting.

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And when you hear silence, I hear symphony.

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I have a thousand faces and a million names, seducer, accuser, destroyer.

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With my free will, I can dial to the Satan channel in two seconds.

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I can go into that bathroom in there and look right into my eyes for about two seconds and

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decide to let something else jump right into me in the driver's seat.

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And that something could absolutely tear people's arms out of their sockets.

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But the eyes of a fool are blinded by pride, and now the devil is knocking on your door!

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Knock, knock, knock.

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He just wants you to come home.

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Just let him in, let him in, let me in.

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Let's go to break, cause you may not need a break, but I gotta go pee-pee.

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But if you need me, I ain't hard to find.

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All you gotta do is go look up in the sky and follow the buzzer.

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Thank you Harry, you're now a technocrat.

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So yeah, the theme of these other clips are Bray Wyatt clips, for those folks who may

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not know wrestling much, or maybe only know it from our rambling about it.

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This week, Bray Wyatt passed away.

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My favorite wrestler died at 36, just absolutely tragic.

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It's really tough to deal with celebrity deaths, because I don't know these people.

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I don't know any of these people.

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And when a celebrity dies, people talk about like, I met this person at X, Y, or Z thing.

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Eulogizing of public figures is tough.

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But this hits hard for me.

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I loved Bray Wyatt, the character.

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I thought there was an artistry to it that was so far beyond other things that I see

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in pro wrestling.

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Now granted, this isn't to knock other types of pro wrestling.

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It's just something that's very different.

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There's an immersiveness to it.

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There's a mythology.

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There's this guy who is creating a world that is supposed to live within this other world.

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It's nonsensical on some levels.

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But he had such an amazing gift to be able to draw you into it with this speaking, this

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skill of just weaving a tapestry of words that make it feel like it's not silly somehow.

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I think that I was pretty harsh and very notoriously worried about Uncle Howdy.

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You were concerned?

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The most recent incarnation of what Bray Wyatt was doing, the last time he came back from

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sort of a repackaging of the gimmick.

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Because I thought, well this is worrisome.

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There's another silly mask involved and I don't quite know what the point is.

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And then it turned into that glow in the dark match that was very weird.

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I was very concerned.

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But I was willing to see how it played out.

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And that's the kind of faith that I had in this person, this artist, this craft.

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I feel like I felt so comfortable in that worry because I had a sense and a feeling

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that has obviously now shown to be wrong, that for the rest of my life, essentially,

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I would see other things he created.

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Maybe this Uncle Howdy thing, maybe this is a zero.

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Maybe this doesn't work out, but the next thing he tries, I'm sure there will be something

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to it.

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Or there will at least be like, I see what is trying to be done here, but meh.

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And now that is not the case.

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That is something that we'll never have again.

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We'll never have the next thing.

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You had the hillbilly cult leader guy Bray Wyatt character, the Eater of Worlds.

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And then you had the Fiend and the Firefly Funhouse and you had this feeling that that'll

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be there.

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The next thing will be there and I'll see if I love that too.

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And then now there shall be no more Uncles Howdy.

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And there would be the comeback of one of the characters that he left behind.

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That's also part of the thing.

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There would have been a career.

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He established himself as having a career that was going to be there, that he fought

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for and earned.

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Yeah, and I don't know, it's hard.

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It's brutal.

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I never got to see him live.

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I never went to a WWE event that he was at.

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And I don't know, something that moved me a little bit was thinking about, and this

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sounds so dorky or whatever, but I never got to be one of the fireflies.

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Whenever he came out to the ring, he would be carrying a lantern.

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Sure.

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Well, it's our Twitter, we're here, pinned tweet thing.

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Yeah, blowing out the lantern is the menacing thing that he would do.

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And everyone would put up their cell phone lights in the darkness and they were the fireflies.

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I always thought eventually I'll be able to take part in this fun pageantry, and no, I

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never will get to do that.

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These opportunities lost, and it does make you think of, well, time not promised.

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I know a lot of people die, and I know this isn't enough.

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Almost everybody dies.

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Yeah.

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But in the realm of creators that you like and artists and stuff, it is, time is not

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promised.

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You think Aerosmith is going on a farewell tour, YouTube ads have told me about this.

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And it's like you think about it, and you're like, well, yeah, I should probably see them

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before it's never an option again.

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With this, with someone like Bray, I had that thought of eventually I'll be able to see

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this.

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And you never think a farewell tour was that glow in the dark match.

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No.

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No, you don't.

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No.

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I have a million thoughts and a million things I want to say about what it is about him.

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And it probably doesn't serve our interests here as a podcast to spend that time delving

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into what made that character so interesting, the populism of his hillbilly cult leader

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character, the dynamic of him being a showman as a human being a wrestler.

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That's a showman.

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And then his character of being the cult leader is a showman itself.

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The other characters within the wrestling landscape, they aren't necessarily showmen

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or showwomen, they're wrestlers or they're fighters.

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He is someone who's selling something.

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It is a well-constructed character whenever you think, okay, Bray Wyatt, the character,

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when he's not on screen is calmer and is ready to talk to his buddies like, okay, this is

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our plan.

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This is how we're going to do that instead of Bray Wyatt, the human being taking off

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the mask.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then the ability to go from a giggle to terrifying.

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People can't do that.

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Stuff to do.

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Just what a loss to wrestling.

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And the Wyatt family was his group and initially it was him, Eric Rowan, and Luke Harper.

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And Luke Harper passed away tragically a couple of years ago, also quite young.

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And so you just think about, they're all friends and they're all close, particularly someone

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like Eric Rowan and all their families, just how brutal it must be for them.

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Anyway, I had a bummer of a weekend and this isn't even talking about Terry Funk passed

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away too.

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Oh, that's true.

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The hardcore legend, Terry Funk.

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But then again, he was really old and did a career for decades of him bleeding all over

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the place.

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You kind of expect that more.

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I mean, it's tragic and all, but it's not quite the same.

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No, for him dying was an achievement.

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He did it.

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He lived an entire life in almost defiance of all possible realities.

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So I spent a lot of time over the weekend going back, watching a bunch of stuff and

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reliving and enjoying.

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And all of it was quite enjoyable, but it didn't get me.

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But then on SmackDown on Friday night, they did mostly a tribute to Bray and Terry Funk.

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And there's this wrestler, LA Knight.

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He's the guy who did the glow in the dark match, the last match.

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And he came out and did a promo basically against the Miz, like getting in, like building

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to a match with the Miz, but was able to eulogize and give respect to Bray while not breaking

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character and staying within the world.

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And it was really sweet.

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And then he ended the promo saying, Miz, as a wise man once told me, the next time you

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see me run and did like a Bray thing.

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And that's like, that kind of got me.

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I teared up a little bit and anyway, enough of this isn't a wrestling podcast, but I made

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those sound effects.

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So it's worth it.

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It's all worth it in the end.

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Anyway, Jordan, we have an episode we're talking about August 24th.

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And unexpectedly, most of this episode is diving deeper into conspiracies about the

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Maui fire.

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That is unexpected.

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Yeah.

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And so here is where Alex starts things off and his conspiracy for the day.

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And AP is reporting what we broke last week and the witnesses you confirmed.

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And that's really our top story.

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The feds under their directives to the local police, the county and state barricaded the

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people of Lahaina in to die.

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That's the Associated Press headline.

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They knew it was in the fire.

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They followed orders and they murdered them.

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So here's the headline that Alex is talking about from the Associated Press quote in deadly

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Maui fires, many had no warning and no way out.

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Those who dodged a barricade survived from a very broad reading of just the headline.

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Alex's storyline seems like it might hold some water, but in cases like this, it's usually

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good to actually read the article.

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Also, it doesn't hold water that like they murdered people.

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Yeah, that doesn't.

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That part's still a little bit much.

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But in terms of like, if you're just like, if you just take the headline and you ascribe

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reality to it, then it's like, oh, only the people who dodged barricades survive, everyone

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else is dead.

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You know, whatever.

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Sure.

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I know a lot of people that still linger about how public alert systems were and were not

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used effectively to warn people to flee.

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But this is the aspect of the headline that Alex is talking about, this barricade thing.

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So I'm going to leave all the other stuff aside for the moment.

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If you read the article, it's very clear that the barricades that are mentioned have to

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do with police setting up, blocking off streets where the fire is blocking the road or a street

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where there are crews actively working on downed power lines.

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Yeah, the blockade was for the fire.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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And some of it was so people couldn't drive to where the fire was.

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Right, right, right.

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Because the fire was there.

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That is where the fire is.

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So it was also letting people know, do not go there.

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Less escaping the fire, less blocking people from escaping the fire and more blocking them

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from going to the fire.

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Right.

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You don't want to go into the fire.

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Yes.

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Now, at the same time, I do think that from the Associated Press and from other things

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that you read, there are definite concerns about how prepared people were and how prepared

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the government and the county were to deal with like further in and out roads and stuff

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like that.

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The entire situation is an utter tragedy and there are sincere questions to ask about the

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civil response to the fire.

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Was it possible to give residents a greater warning?

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Very sincere question.

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Could the Coast Guard have been alerted earlier to facilitate evacuations by boat?

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Could a detour escape plan through dirt roads have been planned way in advance in anticipation

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of this possibility?

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Should the power company have turned off the electricity to areas with high numbers of

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downed wires or wires with a high potential for being downed?

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All of these things are questions that should be asked.

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So something can be learned from this tragedy to help save lives in the future.

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What Alex is doing is disgraceful, ghoulish shit meant only to profit off the suffering

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and death in Maui.

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Fuck him and his entire trauma profiteering economy.

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This isn't a real concern that he has.

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He's just making shit up in order to create a sensational, interesting story for his audience

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to enjoy.

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Fuck it.

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Yeah.

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It feels like now, you know, everything is now, it feels like everything is now orchestrated

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around distracting us from the fact that nothing really works that well anymore.

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Like everything is just fucking a little bit shit.

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Our infrastructure is shit.

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Airlines are shit.

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Like everybody's electrical grid is shit.

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And that's because we've allowed the wrong people to run roughshod over us for 40 years.

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So that all of this is distracting from them.

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A lot of stuff regarding infrastructure and what have you has not been invested in appropriately

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to maintain it.

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People who are tasked with that, with the public trust, a lot of times have not done

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a good job with that or invested poorly.

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And just flat out stolen shit for bonuses and shit.

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But these are problems that can be solved.

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These are human problems.

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Exactly.

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That have to be solved.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And the, they blockaded people into murder them is not something that's actionable.

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It's not something that's, it's not real.

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It's not, there's nothing, there's nowhere to go from there to a better future.

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Yeah.

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And that's intentional.

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Once, once you defended one electrical company that deliberately did a shit job in order

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to cut costs and, and all that stuff, you know.

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Well, I mean, Alex, he doesn't fully understand how ERCOT works.

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That's what I'm saying.

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But whenever that shit broke apart and he's like, oh, it's because of air and solar, you

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know, that kind of thing.

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Yeah.

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And the feds.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Once you defend one of those, fuck you.

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And now you're defending multiple, which is like, I will, I would rather sacrifice a million

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lives at the altar of capitalism than for one fucking second deal with it.

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Well, it's arguable that he's defending the energy utility.

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Right.

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Companies.

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I'm not sure that he is.

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Well, I mean, practically speaking, I don't know if ideologically speaking that's what

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he's doing.

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Okay.

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So you're saying if you take the parts of his shit that isn't real out of the equation

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in the real world, what this serves to do is distract from the, from, yes, yeah, I could,

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I could see that.

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Yeah, I could see that.

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He, yeah, he wouldn't, he wouldn't put those words to paper, but yeah, no, no, no, no.

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I can see that.

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Yeah.

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Instead what he'll do is accuse people of mass murder.

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That sounds right.

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I'm reading through the stacks of news and I saw something that felt like deja vu from

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10 days ago, 11 days ago.

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We know the fires happened in Maui now, 16 days ago, locals reported, and I didn't just

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believe it.

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It's a small town of Lahaina.

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So I went and checked their names, who they were in the local towns and indeed well-known

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town fixtures, the equivalent of the sheriff from Mayberry saying they would not let the

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men, women and children get out and they blockaded the roads, the open safe highway hundreds

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of yards away.

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We played multiple interviews.

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We have reporters on the ground that confirmed it, but it was still just the eyewitnesses.

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The associated press has confirmed in their words that under state and federal direction,

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the Lahaina town and sheriff's department that's now involved in a massive coverup barricaded

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the two road exits and would not let people leave as they watched the buildings and their

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cars burn in front of them.

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So the guy that's like Andy Griffith in Mayberry is a guy named Fish who's been interviewed

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by a YouTube channel called Maui Real Estate.

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I don't know, I watched a little bit of it and I didn't find it more persuasive than

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the hundred other things I used as sources of information.

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I just want something to be very clear with what Alex just said.

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Alex just said that these people are on one side of the barricade watching their homes

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and cars burn, and they are keeping them from running across the barricade.

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So essentially what Alex just said is that these barricades are keeping these people

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from running into their burning homes and cars.

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No, no.

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He's saying their homes are burning and also their cars are burning and the barricades

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are stopping them from running away from their burning cars.

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So they're trapped in their burning cars.

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Yeah, there's a street, I believe it's Front Street, that is pretty close to the water

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that was where a lot of people got caught in a traffic jam.

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And that had access to the one road that leads to a highway.

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And that's where a barricade was because the fire was there too and there were downed lines.

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And so people were stuck on Front Street in terms of where their cars were.

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And so Alex is pretending that they were being kept there.

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Right, right, right.

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And that is not so much the case.

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They're being put into a place where there's not fire.

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This is what I'm trying to make very clear.

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But then fire does come there.

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Sure, but the idea is that people are helping them go from places where fire is to places

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where not fire is.

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That is the ideal.

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Yes, okay.

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Yeah, and unfortunately that is not achieved.

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Right, gotcha, okay.

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And that is where a lot of the tragedy comes in and where a lot of Alex's ability to play

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games with this information comes in.

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And I mean, again, it's trauma profiteering, it's disgusting.

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So part of the issue that comes into play here is that some of the roads were closed,

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but those roads were impassable.

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Roads being closed isn't proof of a grand conspiracy to trap people in a fire here.

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And that's what Alex is doing, that's what he's saying.

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And I understand that free speech is important and should be protected, but at a certain

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point it's also important to recognize what Alex is doing.

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He's accusing people of murder.

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This is slander against the public employees in Maui, and it's not just harmless shit talk.

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Like, I have no idea what the best course of action is to hold someone responsible for

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stuff like this, but just ignoring it and saying it's his opinion is something I'm done

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with.

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I'm done with accepting that as a way we can operate.

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He's straight up accusing people of crimes.

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He's inciting.

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We've argued this conversation for a long, long time, and we have gone from one place

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to another that shows, self-evidently, we are default living in the wrong answer to

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this question.

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I think so.

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And so we need to change that answer, whether we like it or not.

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Whether you think it's right or not, it needs to be done.

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Yeah, but once you figure out the right answer, that's when they change the questions.

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Rest in peace, Roddy Piper.

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Six times seven.

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So Alex has to just make up details in order for this narrative to fly.

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Sure.

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In deadly Maui fires, when he had no warning and no way out, those who dodged the barricades

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survived.

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That's not an Infowars headline, though that was a headline a week ago we put out just

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like that, identical, basically, and they had let the site say, how dare Jones claim.

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They attacked me all over the national news, all over newspapers, all over YouTube.

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Jones is insane saying the police blocked the people in.

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And now, the Associated Press in a detailed report, the government admits they barricaded

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the men and didn't let them drive down the clean open road to the highway 200 yards away.

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You see here the essential lie Alex needs to tell for this story to work, which is that

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the roads were clear.

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If he were to accept that there were downed trees and live electric wires and fire in

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the roads and they were impassable, his entire charade falls apart instantly.

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The very AP article that Alex is citing says, quote, the utility, Hawaiian Electric, says

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more than 30 power poles are down in West Maui, including along the Hanoape Iilani highway

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and the south end of Lahaina.

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The fire department closed the Lahaina bypass road because of the fire.

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The closures block the only route out of Lahaina to the south.

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The conspiracy that Alex is selling the audience only works if there isn't a reason for the

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roads to have been closed.

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And because that piece is so critical, like that piece, Alex lies to make that piece exist

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within this puzzle.

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If Alex wants to talk about failed emergency response or poor preparedness, he could make

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some very valid criticisms against the dreaded government.

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But that isn't profitable for him.

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His audience isn't entertained by suggestions for improving policy.

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They want ridiculous horror stories that play to their worldview.

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They want a racist drunk to regale them with tales that make them feel like they're living

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in a movie, because that's a lot more fun.

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To preserve that fun, they are perfectly fine accepting the lies Alex needs to tell to enable

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these conspiracies to fly.

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It's just bullshit.

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Yeah.

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Bullshit.

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And it's it's fucking it is it is part of the the fundamental reason that it drives

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people insane.

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It's just like if you've ever had to try and build a thing with all the regulations in

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Chicago, you know, you've got people, the inspector after inspector being like, this

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is two inches difference, you know, and you're like, this is bullshit, you ticky tack assholes.

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And then you look at the way we regulate our fucking electrical grid.

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And you're like, really?

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This is how we're going to do things?

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I get it.

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This is why everybody's furious.

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Sure.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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And especially when I would assume, I don't know, because the like review and investigation

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hasn't been fully completed.

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But I would assume there are some iffy decisions that are made, you know, and maybe some iffy

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decisions led to death.

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And that is emotionally palpable.

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So you take that frustration and that you're describing, then you add the emotional impact

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of of death and tragedy to it.

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And that's that's grist for Alex's mill, as it were, you know?

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Yeah.

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I mean, it just it's just so mind boggling how obvious it is, you know, in retrospect

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to just be like, no, this can't happen anymore.

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So now we change it, you know?

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The idea of doing nothing about it is so bonkers.

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Well, I think people I think things will be done.

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I hope so.

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I know.

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But you look at Texas's grid, you know, you look at ERCOT and you're like, oh, you understand

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do shit.

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But you understand why that's the case.

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Exactly.

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No, I know.

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I understand why.

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But it's too obvious.

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There is philosophical unwillingness to do the things that should be done in that situation.

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Whereas I think that in the case of Hawaii, there may be more willingness to engage with

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like, all right, postmortem of the not of people, but of the event.

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Excuse me.

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Yeah.

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What what do we what do we learn from this?

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What steps can be put into place?

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You know, I agree with you.

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That is frustrating in the case of Texas, but, you know, what are you going to do?

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There's other reasons there.

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Oh, there's tons of reasons.

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So Alex gets into the AP article and man, it's a little suspicious, a little sus.

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As flames tore through a West Valley neighborhood, car after car fleeing residents headed for

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the one paved road out of town in a desperate race for safety.

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And car after car was turned back towards the rapidly spreading fires by a barricade

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blocking access to Highway 30 with the police enforcing it.

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So how accurate do you think that was to the to the article?

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I would say that I'm going to go with twenty five percent.

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Actually you're low.

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It's mostly accurate.

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The words, quote, with police enforcing it, though, don't appear in the AP article.

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Alex is adding those words because he wants to heighten the drama of the story that he's

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telling to the audience.

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The impression they're supposed to have is of jackbooted police holding the line and

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not letting anyone escape the fire.

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So you have to understand that he's going to make this article say that whether it actually

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does or not.

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The headline works for Alex's propaganda purposes, but he hasn't actually read the article itself.

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And as he cold reads it on air, you can get the sense that it's not really fitting the

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narrative well enough.

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So he dresses it up with his own editorializing meant to appear as if it's from the article.

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This is him defrauding the audience because he doesn't give a shit about the reality of

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the things he covers.

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You notice, though, how much he needs the audience to think that the AP agrees with

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him, because on some subconscious or conscious level, he knows the audience understands that

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the AP is depicting reality far more accurately than Alex himself.

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Alex knows that for his narrative to match up with AP reporting, that sends the message

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that his narrative matches up with actual reality.

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If what Alex said was true and the mainstream media just lies and who cares about them,

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then he wouldn't need to try to trojan horse his own words into an AP article to make it

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sound more like him.

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The charade would be unnecessary, but the charade is necessary.

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Fundamentally, Alex knows he's a liar, and on some level, his listeners know that they're

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trying to convince themselves that the fiction they believe is actually truth.

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That's why Alex always says things are in the mainstream news, and why he constantly

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lies about headlines from mainstream outlets.

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The obviously higher credibility of those outlets, even among the people who swear to

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hate them, is important to hijack.

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It's ridiculous.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, everybody knows, it does feel like, hey, listen, okay, I'll share you this article

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because it makes me feel good.

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I'll share you this article because I think it's actually true.

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Those are the two very clear differences in that right-wing-osphere kind of thing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This wouldn't fly if it was a dumb shit blog post.

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He wouldn't be trying to desperately cling on to the credibility of it.

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And you see that whenever he's trying to co-opt credible outlets.

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Yeah, and you'd know it was a dumb shit blog post because it'd say something like, oh,

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it's like the scene in Cloverfield when they're trying to escape Manhattan, and there are

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the police barricades.

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It's like that.

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That's what they're trying to evoke.

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And you would know it was some dumb shit blog because Alex wouldn't specify anything, and

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I would have to dig to try and figure out like, oh, this is from 9-11 Blogger.

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I googled the sentence word for word.

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Yeah.

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Sometimes that's the only way.

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Sometimes it is.

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And this continues on with this article.

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Okay.

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He later picked his way through the flames, smoke, and rubble to pull survivors to safety.

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But as dozens saved themselves, thousands died, including children.

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They go on to admit the power lines were knocked down, the power was left on, water was denied,

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they were murdered.

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The words, quote, but as dozens saved themselves, thousands died, including children, are not

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in this article.

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What happened is that Alex started reading the next paragraph and realized that it didn't

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work for him.

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The actual next line is, quote, but dozens found themselves caught in a hellscape, their

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cars jammed together on a narrow road surrounded by flames on three sides and the rocky ocean

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waves on the fourth.

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Some died in their cars while others tried to run for safety.

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Yeah.

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Alex skimmed that as he was reading aloud and realized that this doesn't work for his

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narrative, man.

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Dozens of people being trapped doesn't match the level of atrocity he's trying to

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portray, which is why he completely changed the sentence while pretending it was still

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from the article.

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Instead of dozens being trapped, now it's dozens escaping and thousands dying.

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For you or me, dozens of deaths, that's horrifying and it's a tragedy, but that number

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is disappointing for Alex and I suspect he thinks it won't get the audience excited,

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so he just makes up thousands of fatalities.

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As of the most recent update from the Maui government, there have been 115 confirmed

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fatalities with 99% of the area searched.

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There are 388 people who have been reported unaccounted for and the hunt is on for those

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people, many of whom may well be alive and somewhere they just haven't been found.

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Even assuming the absolute worst that all of these people who are unaccounted for are

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dead, that's 503 people.

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Alex said thousands, which means at least 2,000, so he's arbitrarily multiplying the

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death toll by four times of the current worst case scenario.

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Why would he do that?

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Seems weird, right?

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Well, unless you're trying to, oh I don't know, exaggerate your own importance and so

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forth.

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And sensationalize shit because you're a lying asshole.

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Further, the article doesn't say anything about water being denied, but if you read

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other coverage of the fires you would understand the issue here.

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The issue is one of water rights and how it's a hot topic in Hawaii.

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A developer wanted to divert streams to fight the fires, but native Hawaiians are very opposed

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to water diversion schemes going all the way back to like the times of plantations coming

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in and essentially stealing a precious natural resource at the expense of the people who

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live there.

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For very obvious reasons, don't fuck with our water, you lying pieces of shit.

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Yeah, this is a tense issue, but at the same time, by 6pm on the day of the fire outbreak,

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permission was given to divert streams to fight the fire.

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Alex is just repeating some dumb conspiracy talking point he saw in a meme and not understanding

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the reality behind this nor the cultural issues that are at play with the decision in the

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greater conversation.

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Also, the article in no way implies or reports that people were murdered.

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This is a criminal misuse of the source, and it's being done for Alex's sensationalist

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purposes to drive attention to himself and profit his own enterprises.

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It's just a piece of shit.

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There's no way around it.

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It's just a big old piece of shit.

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Yeah.

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Sucks.

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Yeah, you know, this is one of those things that I really do feel like we could nail down.

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You know, like, if you get like fucking 10 points total, you know, like you got, you

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have 10 demerits before you lose your license to broadcast.

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If you like read a sentence and then you decide that the next sentence of the paragraph doesn't

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work for you and you just change it completely.

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And when it's so transparent, when it's so transparent, yeah, that's, that's catchable,

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you know?

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Well, I mean, this one especially is so fucking obvious when he says that doesn't save themselves,

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thousands died.

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And then the next line in the actual article is dozens found themselves caught in a hellscape.

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Totally.

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Yes.

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It's the word that he used to jump off into his own story.

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Totally.

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And it's the opposite of what the article says.

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Totally.

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Yeah.

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I mean, when you do things like that, it does reveal intent.

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Yeah.

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But I mean, that's, this is the type of thing where it's like, Hey, fuck off with this.

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Oh, I don't know if this is free speech or not free speech.

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This is just like a granular specific thing and you lose your license or some shit.

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You're off the air after 10.

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I mean, it's a reasonable thing that I think we can all just be like, Hey, you're a liar

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and we don't want you on the air.

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I support the idea of it, but I think implementation would be hard.

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That'd be really tough.

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You'd have to have basically a set of us dedicated to literally every show.

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That's not going to happen.

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That's probably not going to happen.

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Nope.

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Not enough crazy competent people.

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There really isn't.

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So let's take a break, a little breaky from this and hear Alex ramble over that song from

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Tron.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah.

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Look out for the end of this clip where Alex just gets lost.

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Wait, Def Punk or?

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It's that one.

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The Grid.

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That one.

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I don't know who did it.

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Maybe Def Punk?

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I don't know.

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Anyway, he gets lost in random quotes at the end of it.

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It's kind of fun.

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Okay.

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We are the resistance.

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We are not lying now.

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We are taking action against the enemy and becoming stronger every day.

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While the globalists celebrate their evil.

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Have their parties celebrate their evil.

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We're out here in the jungle fighting, working, loving, getting stronger, the more they persecute

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us.

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Again.

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Imagine this with no music.

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Yeah.

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I was going to say this.

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This is like matrix reloaded levels.

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Yeah.

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The more the people know we're on their side, the stronger we get.

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I can feel the energy of humanity rising.

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I can see it.

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It is our destiny.

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Take your destiny in your hands.

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Stop bowing to the new world order.

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Right?

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To study history, there are times when evil takes over and destroys everything.

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When?

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Until humanity realizes there's only one way to go.

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And that is total resistance.

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When does that happen?

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Total resistance.

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And never forget, resistance is victory.

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Telling the truth.

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That's not true.

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The world of universal deceit is a revolutionary act.

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In the beginning, a Patriot is a scarce man, hated, feared, and scorned, but in time when

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his cause succeeds, the timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.

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Uh, the man in the arena, uh, uh, buh.

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Yeah, I was going to say, let's just...

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Just jump more quotes in there.

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Right?

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Yep.

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How'd you like that?

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That was fun.

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I mean, that was...

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I mean, it wasn't that good.

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That was pretty fun.

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It leaves something to be desired.

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It was a little too long.

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Music's too loud.

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Yeah.

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It's not boppy enough.

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And not esoteric enough.

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Yeah, that's true.

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There needs to be, there needs to be like, uh, this dimension will not hold us.

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Right.

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Something like that.

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We belong in the stars.

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Yeah, totally.

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You need to belong in the stars.

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We must conquer Saturn.

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Especially if you got that kind of base behind you, you go to the stars.

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Yeah.

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That was more just like a motivational speech.

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It was.

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It was a little bit like, resistance isn't victory.

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Usually you lose.

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You know, I disagree with you, in the sense that how I hear that is, what matters is you

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thrive.

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You know?

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Sure, sure.

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Resistance is victory in as much as you have got yourself to a place where you are resisting

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something that is wrong.

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Right.

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And that in and of itself is a moral victory.

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Sure.

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It's not victory in the sense that you're going to win.

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I mean, yeah, I feel like, though it really is, it's just like moving the bar.

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Well, you know, I've been watching a bit of The Challenge, you know, we've talked about

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this, and I think that TJ Liven would say trying is victory.

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Right.

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Because he's mad at people who quit.

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Right.

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And, you know, you get punished for quitting.

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And I think that trying is a victory.

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Sure.

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I see that.

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I agree.

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You didn't give up.

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I agree.

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But at the Olympics, they don't judge on a curve.

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You know?

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Like, it's not like, oh, well, this person tried harder, so their high jump of 15.

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You're looking at this from such a winning and losing kind of standpoint, and I pity

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you.

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I accept that pity.

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I also have been trying to figure out on The Challenge, real quick, slight diversion, people

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lose the eliminations and then they have to go home.

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And TJ Liven will generally say, like, you gave it your all, but this ends your time

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here.

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We'll see you next year.

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No, that's what I'm getting to.

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Oh, okay.

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Because sometimes he'll say, like, this ends your time here on The Challenge, and then

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they go.

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And then sometimes he says, I'm sure we'll see you in the future.

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I'm sure we'll see you in the future.

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Why does he say that to some people and not others?

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Because I think he has a say in whether or not you're coming back or not.

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But sometimes he says it to people who are obviously coming back.

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Sometimes he, well, I mean, you don't need to say things.

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Sometimes he says it to people who you're never going to see back.

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I've never heard him say it to anybody that we've never seen back.

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I can't remember who, but you said it to someone, I'm like, I'm going to see that person.

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I haven't seen him.

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But that's, I mean, that's-

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I feel like he was being polite in that instance.

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That evidence is spotty.

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Also, I went back and I started a season a little ways back.

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Sure.

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In the past?

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Yeah.

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Oh, man, it was offensive.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It is tough to go back before season 30-ish, because before that, it's violent, like, interpersonally

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violent.

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It's violent towards women.

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It sucks.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's really, really hard to watch.

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It is something that I really think we're all really trying to avoid reconciling, is

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just how much everybody goes, you know, 10 years ago it wasn't like this, and how much

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people don't want to be like, 10 years ago it was like this, so let's deal with that

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and not deal with how it doesn't feel like it was better now.

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So we get back to Hawaiian issues, and this is not good.

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We need the people that did this to be arrested, but don't look for the justice department

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to do it.

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They're too busy persecuting our great president.

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And it's not their job.

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So just know who these individuals are, ladies and gentlemen.

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Who?

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They're the Associated Press.

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In deadly Mallee fires, many had no warning and no way out.

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Those who dodged the barricades survived that were put up as the fire arrived, the water

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denied, the power left on, sirens never turned on, and it's not like it's some desert property

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nobody wants.

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It's the most expensive, square inch property on earth that a bunch of poor people refuse

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to sell because it's their culture, and that's the globalist enemy.

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Somebody they can't buy like me or you, you can't buy out.

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You are so easy to buy in my head.

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You couldn't put a gun to die.

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Most of the families are dead up at what some of their families spend their hundreds of

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years and thousands of their locals indigenous.

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And now the state can come in because there's nobody there to stand up for him and take

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it.

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Well, this is it.

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The state's literally standing up for him.

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I'm going to Mallee.

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I'm not going to say when but soon.

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And we're going to expose this.

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So you might notice that Alex doesn't say who should be arrested, just a vague, nebulous

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they that the audience can take to mean whoever they want.

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Alex should have learned his lesson about insisting on going places to uncover non-existent

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cover-ups back with Sandy Hook, but I guess he's going to try to encourage some more harassment

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of public officials and locals.

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Hope he doesn't end up causing more terror to people's lives.

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Oh, he definitely will.

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That being said, the least surprising news in the world is that Alex is going to take

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another vacation to Hawaii and pretend it's for work purposes.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it is one of the most disgusting things I can think of because I guarantee Alex looks

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at this going like, ooh, another work-cation.

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I guarantee it.

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It's so fucking pure and clear in my mind that that is true.

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Yeah.

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And the alternative is that he's thinking, man, I'm going to go cause some trouble.

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I'm going to go stir some stuff up.

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I'm going to be in the headlines, just like when I was a seatbelt snitch down at the border

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pretending I was saving traffic children.

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And that to me, like, if you're clear about that's what you're doing, it's another level

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of like grotesque, I hope he just thinks he's going on a vacation because that at least

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is just like, well, you're a shithead, nihilist, you're checked out.

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Yeah.

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And ultimately that is the ultimate thing is don't go.

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Just don't go.

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No one wants you there.

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Everyone alone.

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Yeah.

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Dome.

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Truman show.

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Let's get this done.

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Get this guy in the dome.

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Come on.

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So Alex gets back to the AP article here.

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And what do you know?

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He lies some more.

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Yeah.

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And you gotta read the AP article.

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It's one, two, three, four, five, six pages long.

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It's a long article for AP, but short and easy to read.

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You read this.

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It sounds like it's a transcript of my show last week.

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They didn't trim the trees.

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They let the power on the power lines.

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They refused in the water.

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They didn't turn on the sirens then quote to protect them from fire.

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When any police could look and see the roads were open to the highway and there weren't

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fires there, the fires were in the town.

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So they blocked him in so they couldn't get away from the fire.

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Whoever gave the police that order is who we need in a jail cell right now.

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This article may be that long.

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If you print it out with large font like Alex does, but it's not very long and Alex didn't

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read it.

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This is a complete misrepresentation of what's in that article because again, he wants to

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attach the credibility of the Associated Press to the sensationalized and made up things

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he's telling his audience.

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It is true that the sirens weren't used and that is mentioned in the article.

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This is probably part of why on the 17th, Herman Andaya, the Maui Emergency Management

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Agency administrator submitted his resignation.

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Hawaii's Attorney General is still conducting a review of the decisions made during the

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emergency.

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So a lot more will be known about the rationale for not activating the sirens in due time.

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But for now, it's very unfair for Alex to report to his listeners that this was done

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in an attempt to kill people.

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I don't know if this is the case, but I wonder if it is.

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I haven't seen this in any article, but this is just my thought and maybe I'm stupid.

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But I could see not sounding off the sirens because there was also a hurricane going around.

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And I think it could have confused people because you'd want to behave differently depending

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on what the emergency is.

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If it's a fire, you evacuate.

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If it's a hurricane, maybe you evacuate.

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Or maybe there are different behaviors.

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I don't know.

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That's just my thought.

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I have no idea.

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Another AP article about the communication problems during the fire involves input from

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Carl Kim, the director of the National Disaster Preparedness Training Center, who said, quote,

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said it's too soon to know exactly how the warning and alert system might have saved

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more lives in Lahaina and noted that wildfires are often more challenging to manage than

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volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, and even earthquakes because they are more difficult to detect

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and track over time.

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We're still in a wet cement moment for Alex with this tragedy, and he's trying to make

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sure that his version of it sticks with the audience's mind before more information

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can come to light that helps people better understand the specific failings in things

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like preparedness that created this outcome.

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Improving preparedness and working together to make a better government that works for

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the people doesn't profit Alex, which is why that's never the conversation.

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The conversation is always about evil people carrying out evil plans because you can't

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do shit about that other than stay glued to conspiracy bullshit and support idiots like

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Alex who promise to keep you informed and keep you safe because they're the ones who

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are doing the battling.

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They're on the front lines, tip of the spear, blah, blah, blah, all nonsense.

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Actual solutions are a detriment to Alex's bottom line and profits.

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No, they are.

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His entire business model is a function of this.

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If I impede people's ability to improve things, then I will make money in the interregnum.

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Yes, and if you impede people's ability to improve things and make things work better,

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there's a higher likelihood that there will be conflagrations that happen that I can blame

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on the evil people and then the cycle will repeat.

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But the implicit truth is that he is relying on others to still do the job.

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You know, like Alex couldn't figure out how to manage emergency response to a fucking

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fire.

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I mean, not just that, but still improve things so that like the idea is I am going to make

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as much money off of this fire as I possibly can, but I still want them to not make any

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more fires.

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Well, I just don't know if he cares about that.

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I mean, you know, like if Austin's on fire, you know, I would prefer it if they keep Austin

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from being on fire.

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And I rely on the people.

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He doesn't want his house on fire.

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Exactly.

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Everyone else's is fine.

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Totally.

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As long as there's a way to blame the globalists.

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It's trauma and tragedy profiteering and it's disgusting.

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But there's other things that are disgusting, like hotel room prices.

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No, that's true.

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Meanwhile, FEMA agents booking $1,000 a night luxury resorts in Maui amid failed disaster.

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They're renting hotel rooms at the Four Seasons down the road, starting at $1,000 a night.

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That's outside my budget.

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No, it's not.

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Outside most of yours.

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Yes, it is.

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And outside of theirs, well, they give $700 period to the survivors of their administrative

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mass murder.

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This wasn't murder, and that's definitely not outside Alex's price range, given the

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luxury resorts we found him staying at in his recent vacations.

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FEMA personnel who are responding to the disaster have to stay somewhere.

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And I don't know if I'm too interested in pretending that this is the kind of government

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expenditure that somehow passed the line.

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This is what's known as pretend populism.

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Alex wants you to think that he's just like you.

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He can't afford nice hotel rooms, and he's offended that the people in Lahaina aren't

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getting more from the government.

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But none of that's real.

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He's super rich, even with the bankruptcy, and owns multiple watches that cost more than

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most of his audience's net worth.

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More importantly, his political beliefs dictate that the people in Lahaina shouldn't even

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be getting $700 from the government.

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Why should they get a handout just because something bad happened to them?

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Sure, they lost all their property, but shouldn't they have had that insured?

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Is it really the government's job to make up for their bad decisions not getting insurance?

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Alex's extreme conservatism doesn't believe in social assistance programs, and if folks

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like Ron Paul had their way, this wouldn't be something the government would do at all.

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This is why charities exist.

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If there are people who are downtrodden, voluntary giving and support from churches, that's all

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they really need.

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It's actually oppressive for the government to give people money to bail them out at difficult

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times because it sends the message that you can just be irresponsible and expect everyone

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else to clean up the mess when you get in trouble.

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This is what Alex's political policy set involves, but he and all the other fake-ass populist

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posturing idiots like him understand that people generally find this mentality super

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cold and they don't like it.

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That's why they put on this charade of being offended that the government didn't give people

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more money.

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They know that normal, caring humans feel that way, so they're appealing to that feeling

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in normal humans, but you may notice that Alex isn't advocating that the government

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actually give out more assistance.

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He's just trying to exploit the fact that you care about the victims of the fire and

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then using that to attack his enemies.

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He doesn't care at all, but he can't afford to be seen as not caring.

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Totally.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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The appearance of his actual politics would turn off so many people with its callousness

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and lack of regard for decency.

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And so you have to put on this act, otherwise you show yourself to be a shithead.

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Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine being like, oh, listen, I hate the government just grabbing

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whatever hotel rooms are available in an emergency.

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I want them to scour Airbnbs.

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And fuck it, that might even violate the third amendment.

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And you have to consider what's there.

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What wasn't affected by the fire.

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Totally.

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The limitations are very serious here at the moment.

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This is an emergency.

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I am not mad at people just throwing shit into an emergency.

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I get it.

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Yeah, but you got to understand.

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And you know who owns the Four Seasons?

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Joe Biden.

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Oh, you didn't know?

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Say Joe Biden.

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Say Joe Biden.

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I look up who owns what before I stay there, that's another reason I don't stay there.

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Billy Bravo was staying there about a couple weeks ago when he came to hang out with me

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and Joe Rogan and I went to pick him up there and I said, hey, Eddie, you know who owns

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this?

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That would put him down.

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He said, no.

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I said, Bill Gates.

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He goes, nah.

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I said, Google it.

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He's the main owner, majority owner.

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So yeah, Bill Gates, along with Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Al Saud are the primary

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owners of Four Seasons through stock holdings.

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I guess if Alex wants to stay away because of that, good for him, man.

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I mean, like, you know, vote with your dollars.

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Cool.

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I don't have a problem with that.

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Yeah, necessarily.

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Yeah.

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He's a total liar about researching where he stays though.

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He just saw the Bill Gates thing in a meme and decided to take it on as the result of

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some research he does.

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You can tell this because on his last vacation to Kauai, he stayed at the Royal Senesta Hotel,

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which is owned by Service Properties Trust.

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If you look a little bit into Service Properties Trust, you'll find that the top two stockholders

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for them are BlackRock and the Vanguard Group, two entities who are big old villains for

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Alex at the moment.

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In fact, he's saying that the power was left on in Maui because BlackRock owns the power

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utilities since they're part of this grand conspiracy.

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So either Alex is lying about looking into who owns the hotels he stays at because it

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makes him sound smarter and more principled than he is, or he actually secretly supports

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BlackRock and Vanguard and Goldman Sachs too.

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They're also heavy investors in Service Properties Trust.

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Yeah.

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Alex is a fucking loser, desperate to pull out this little trivia to make himself feel

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smarter and better than everyone around him.

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It's all an act.

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It's all fraud.

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Yeah.

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Nonsense.

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And I didn't pull this clip, but there was a moment, just a tiny little moment that I

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found delightful where he was like, Bill Gates is making $1,000 a night because these FEMA

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people are staying out of Four Seasons.

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And to imagine, first of all, Bill Gates would have any awareness of the prices of the rooms

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at a hotel that he has investments in is silly.

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And to think that he'd be like, fucking $1,000.

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$1,000.

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That's ridiculous.

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$0,001, relatively speaking, of a cent to Bill Gates.

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Right.

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Bill Gates is looking at the no vacancy, he's looking at the list of rooms that are booked

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at the Four Seasons.

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He's like, thank God we did this fire.

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I am making it hand over fist.

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Oh boy.

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This is-

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So stupid.

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That is unreal.

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Yeah.

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I think it's also unreal whenever, every time you start looking into who owns what, it's

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such a, oh, we live in a fucking aristocracy.

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Yeah.

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It's like, it's either-

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Especially when you start going back to the things like service properties trust.

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You have these names of these larger companies that own things and like, oh, this is a subsidiary

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of-

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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It's pretty depressing.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It is just so, it's like, oh, okay.

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Either one rich guy owns this or it's owned by 30 different things that eventually wind

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up to 10 rich guys own this.

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And you're like, oh, okay.

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All right.

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So you have these things like the Vanguard group and the things that have large amounts

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of investments in things.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Kind of a bummer.

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Y'all got to go.

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But at the same time, I always try to find those little spots to give it up.

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And if Alex truly doesn't want to support Bill Gates by not going to the Four Seasons,

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that's one of the healthiest things I can imagine him doing.

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Yes.

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I support that.

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Yeah.

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I remember my mom when we were younger wouldn't, I can't remember what gas station it was,

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but there was some gas station that, I guess probably one of the ones that had a spill

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or something.

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Yeah.

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I'm like, nope, we got to drive a little bit further to go to a different gas station.

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Yeah.

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Yay.

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Inconvenience yourself a tiny bit to not spend money at the people that you disagree with.

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Yep.

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Good for you.

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That's the way you do it.

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Yes.

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You can't be like, oh, I'm never shopping at this place again.

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You got to find places and be like, this is where I'm always shopping.

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Instead, Alex pretends he's on some kind of a high horse because he's giving money to

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Black Rock and Vanguard and Goldman Sachs instead of Bill Gates and a Saudi prince.

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You got it.

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Great.

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Oh man, the Saudis also own everything.

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It's the Saudis, it's sovereign wealth funds, 10 rich guys who own Black Rock and then one

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rich guy that owns everything.

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There's a lot of that.

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Oh, that's brutal.

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So Alex doesn't do all of his show on this episode and I think there's a reason.

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And I think he's not feeling well.

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We're not funded by Bill Gates and despite all the globalist attacks, we're still hanging

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on and this news is so big that despite the fact that I got COVID tested this morning

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on COVID.

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Oh my God.

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I've just gone to the office and got the virus.

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My voice is particularly deep today because I'm trying to sound like Darth Vader.

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Because every word hurts.

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I think Alex might have COVID again.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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That's four times?

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And I think that this is an opportunity to say that maybe you should take it more seriously

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than we have.

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Maybe we've been a little bit flippant on that front and some stuff could have some

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examination on our parts and it's certainly coming back more.

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I think.

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I think that there's some reports.

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Well, you know, it never went away.

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That's true.

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That's a good point.

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It went from pandemic to endemic and the problem with humans is we cannot just sustain that

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for this long.

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Yes.

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Without conscious, deliberate effort.

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It's just like eventually everything gets equalized to where it's like, oh, well, sure

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COVID is still a devastating problem, but that's normal now because it's been a devastating

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problem for three years, you know, and it's like, I can't, I can't live.

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It's just, yeah.

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And so many of the things that are the parts of it that make it a devastating problem like

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lingering COVID, long COVID type stuff is that's mysterious in some ways that I don't

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think that there's a full understanding of a lot of that.

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And it's very difficult to be, um, like constantly mindful of that.

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Yeah.

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And then secondarily, a lot of the things that would be incredibly helpful are things

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that half of the population has made it clear are not possible.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And yeah, it's a, it's, it's a difficult situation.

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Yeah.

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And it's, it is like, whenever it is this, it is impossible if you are immunocompromised

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not to think like, Oh, well, this is a small enough group or a group that is, that is just

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doesn't have enough power to advocate for itself in any way or whatever.

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And people are just totally fine with letting us go, you know, like it's hard not to view

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that whenever nobody even seems to care that it's still there and it's still a serious

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threat.

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Yeah.

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I get it.

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I understand.

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Yeah.

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And it's something that, uh, I don't know.

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I think we, we, we have think on a little more.

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Sure.

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And also, uh, you know, Bray Wyatt, um, died, uh, uh, as, as of now, the understanding is

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that he had, uh, some heart complications from COVID and had a heart attack and, you

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know, it is, um, yeah, that, uh, that it didn't go away, obviously.

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It's something that we know and yet it, it doesn't, uh, uh, yeah, I think you put it,

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I think you put it well with me, like the level.

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It's so hard.

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Yeah.

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It just equalize.

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It doesn't matter how good things are or how bad things are.

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Eventually it equalizes if they are that way for a long enough period of time, you

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know, and it then it's like, and it happens to everybody.

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I'm not as fucked over by, or I'm not as emotionally destroyed by how fucked over I am.

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And in the same way, you're not as emotionally excited by how good things are over time.

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It's just how our brains function.

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It sucks.

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I understand.

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I'm just sorry.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, we've one last clip here.

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Um, and it's Alex discussing his plans to go to Hawaii and like, Oh my God, that's the

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worst.

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How could you do that now?

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He wants to relax on the beach and stuff, but he's not gonna, he's not gonna, and they

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just hope we forget about it and move on, but we're not going to forget about it.

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And I'm going there very soon.

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I might leave today, maybe next week.

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We'll see.

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I'm going to look into it, but mass murder where you caught them red handed like this

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demands attention.

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And quite frankly, it's very frustrating because I don't know why I want to relax at a good

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time.

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I'm not going to be doing that while I'm there.

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I might have a dinner or maybe swim in the pool for an hour, but it's going to be really

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torturous to be around these mass murderers and know what they did all here in such a

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beautiful place.

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It's going to be very paradoxical, but you can bet your bottom dollar we're going in

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with helicopters.

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We're going in with everything.

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And uh, my ties, I'm going to be sitting by the pool an hour, uh, maybe a little more

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than that.

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Maybe.

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And I can't imagine thinking anything like seeing this happen and thinking anything other

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than I will go to Hawaii when they say the local saying that it's okay.

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And I will go.

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It'll be a while.

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They say, exactly.

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No, but that's what I'm saying.

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Like this is now all on them.

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I have no, I have no input in any decisions until you know what I'm saying?

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Yeah.

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And, and my first thought, um, like I don't, I don't know.

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I don't like to talk about, uh, outside of like when we do like, uh, you know, dream

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of creamy summers, uh, drive for fun, like, uh, charities and stuff.

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I don't like to talk too much about charity stuff that I give to.

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But like the first thing I thought was, Oh my God, it's so awesome that someone made

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a spreadsheet that vetted GoFundMes that are of people who are there.

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So direct aid can go to, like, that's the first thing I thought and, and engaged with

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not God, I'm going to find these nebulous, obscure, vague, unnamed mass murderers by

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going in.

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I'll have a dinner.

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I'll sit at the pool for a little while.

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It's such shit.

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Just it's, I don't know.

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I remember, uh, when Rogan, um, was sort of teetering on the edge of being a full on shithead.

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Um, and he was talking about like, if you're not on the side of helping refugees, you're

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not on the team.

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Yeah.

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And that term has stuck on, stuck with me a little bit and it's kind of behavior out

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of Alex.

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You're not on the team, man.

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You're not on the team.

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This is, this is your impulse and your instinct of what, uh, what to do in the wake of a tragedy.

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You're not on the team, man.

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It is, you're out for yourself.

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Yeah.

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It is, it is impossible to understate, but every time he's like, it's us humanity against

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the evil power, it's, it cannot be understated.

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Alex as actively working against team humanity on all fronts.

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Oh yeah.

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He, if there were aliens who were like, how do we destroy the human race?

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They'd be like, first off, we're going to hire Alex because he's clearly already on

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our team.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's just absurd.

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Yeah.

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Fuck that guy.

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Fuck that guy.

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Man.

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I thought that last time we talked about the Hawaii fire was the last time.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Nope.

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It gets worse.

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Yeah, it really does.

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So we'll be back with another episode, um, uh, down the road, but until then we have

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a website.

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Indeed we do.

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It's knowledgefight.com.

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Yep.

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Uh, we're also on Twitter.

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We are on Twitter.

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It's at knowledge underscore fight.

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Yeah, we'll be back.

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But until then, I'm Neo.

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I'm Leo.

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I'm DZX clerks.

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Doop, doop, doop, he's got the whole world in his hands.

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He's got the whole world in his hands.

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He's right.

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Woo.

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Yeah.

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Woo.

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Yeah.

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And now here comes the sex robot.

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Andy in Kansas.

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You're on the air.

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Thanks for holding.

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Hello, Alex.

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I'm a first time caller.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I love your work.

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Thank you for having me on the show and I'll see you in the next one.

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Bye.